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[Alps]

Stumbled upon this old alignment today: https://goo.gl/maps/GjjPD4nziY22

[srpyyc]

I did a road trip this week from Calgary to Saskatoon and Regina and back.  Can anyone tell me why there is a gap in the twinning of SK 11 at Chamberlain? 

[Stephane Dumas]

I did a road trip this week from Calgary to Saskatoon and Regina and back.  Can anyone tell me why there is a gap in the twinning of SK 11 at Chamberlain? 

I guess it might be related to the business owners of that area who don't want to be bypassed.

Meanwhile, there's another study then I saw from an article published in May about the railroad crossings on Circle Drive in northeast Regina.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/regina-city-council-railway-lines-may-1-1.4642903

[oscar]

Meanwhile, there's another study then I saw from an article published in May about the railroad crossings on Circle Drive Ring Road in northeast Regina.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/regina-city-council-railway-lines-may-1-1.4642903

FTFY. Circle Drive is up in Saskatoon.

[Chris]

Upgrading Highway 11 to a four lane divided, 110 km/h road would also be expensive. A typical Highway 11 ROW of 60 - 80 meters doesn't fit between the village and the railroad tracks, plus you need a service road for Chamberlain access. That would likely require Highway 11 to be rerouted on a new alignment, preferrably with bridges across the railroad. That's a lot of money...

In addition, most of the 90 people in Chamberlain are probably employed by businesses that cater to passing traffic. It could be the same reason why the sections of I-10 and I-40 around smaller towns in the southwest were the last to be constructed.

[Chris]

The Regina Bypass is nearly complete and will open to traffic later this month.

This'll be the new route numbering:

[Stephane Dumas]

I'm surprised to see the absence of an Hwy-1A.

Speaking of beltways, I saw some plans about Saskatoon perimeter highway on Skyscraperpage forums. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=8716005&postcount=7848

I wonder how's the project of twinning SK-6 and SK-39 from Regina to Estevan goes?

[Concrete Bob]

Regina bypass opens to traffic on Tuesday, October 29, 2019.  Yaayyy !!

https://regina.ctvnews.ca/busy-construction-season-comes-to-an-end-in-regina-across-sask-1.4654512

[oscar]

I drove the Regina Bypass earlier today. A few quick notes, on my way out of Regina:

-- The part of the Bypass that is TCH 1 (including the final phase south of Regina, and earlier phases east to Balgonie) has exit numbers, which run from east to west from 217 in Balgonie to 258 on the west side of Regina. For some reason, the provincial highways ministry logs its cross-province routes that way, in this case starting at the Manitoba border. I think these exit numbers are Saskatchewan's first, though there is at least one older lettered exit on SK 11 north of Regina.

-- It's all four lanes or sometimes more divided, with a posted 110 km/h speed limit except approaching the Bypass terminus at SK 11 exit 19. This includes the part of the Bypass along the west side of Regina, onto which SK 11 was rerouted (originally it connected to the TCH on the east side of Regina, at a congested interchange with Victoria Ave.).

-- While every intersection has exit-numbered ramps, there are two with at-grade minor-road crossings: Courtney Avenue on the TCH at exit 253, and Armour Road at SK 11 exit 14. There are no traffic lights at those intersections, and no reduction in the 110 km/h speed limit.

The Bypass is a longer but faster route through the Regina area, and is a big improvement over the TCH's earlier routing along parts of the older Ring Road freeway and Victoria Ave.

[Chris]

Do you think that Winnipeg - Saskatoon traffic will also use it? It's quite a long ways around Regina if you want to go from Highway 1 to Highway 11.

I've read that most truckers from Winnipeg to Saskatoon and Edmonton prefer the four lane Highway 1/11 instead of the 16, which is a long two-lane road. Google Maps indicates that the travel time difference between the 16 and 1/11 is only in the range of 5 minutes (via the old route through Regina).

[oscar]

Do you think that Winnipeg - Saskatoon traffic will also use it? It's quite a long ways around Regina if you want to go from Highway 1 to Highway 11.

It can be a slow slog if you take the old route (Victoria Ave. => northbound SK 6/Ring Rd. => old SK 11/new SK 11A), though the Bypass will take some of the congestion off Victoria Ave. Yeah, the Bypass is longer, but the higher speed limit and absence of the multiple stoplights on Victoria Ave. offsets that.

The Bypass might be used as an excuse to limit trucks on the old route, though that seems not to have happened yet.

[Alps]

Just trying to remember... a green on white wheat sheaf (when seen on a directional sign) is a secondary route, so what is a white on blue wheat sheaf? Can't get a great photo from Google at the moment.

[oscar]

Just trying to remember... a green on white wheat sheaf (when seen on a directional sign) is a secondary route, so what is a white on blue wheat sheaf? Can't get a great photo from Google at the moment.

This photo has examples of both the other current marker styles in Saskatchewan. White on blue is for primary routes, in the 1-399 number range (1-99 major primary, 101-199 northern primary, 201-299 park access, 301-399 spur and other miscellaneous primary). Blue on white is for northern secondary routes, in the 9xx range, usually but not always in the thinly-populated Northern Saskatchewan Administration District.



Both white-on-blue and blue-on-white are for province-maintained routes. Green-on-white are typically for municipal roads, though some of them have concurrences with province-maintained routes.

[Alps]

Just trying to remember... a green on white wheat sheaf (when seen on a directional sign) is a secondary route, so what is a white on blue wheat sheaf? Can't get a great photo from Google at the moment.

This photo has examples of both the other current marker styles in Saskatchewan. White on blue is for primary routes, in the 1-399 number range (1-99 major primary, 101-199 northern primary, 201-299 park access, 301-399 spur and other miscellaneous primary). Blue on white is for northern secondary routes, in the 9xx range, usually but not always in the thinly-populated Northern Saskatchewan Administration District.


Both white-on-blue and blue-on-white are for province-maintained routes. Green-on-white are typically for municipal roads, though some of them have concurrences with province-maintained routes.

This isn't what I'm looking for. Let me try again: The green sheaf below is for a municipal numbered road. What is the blue Freeborn Rd. sheaf for?

[oscar]

This isn't what I'm looking for. Let me try again: The green sheaf below is for a municipal numbered road. What is the blue Freeborn Rd. sheaf for?

I'm drawing a blank on that one.

[Alps]

This isn't what I'm looking for. Let me try again: The green sheaf below is for a municipal numbered road. What is the blue Freeborn Rd. sheaf for?

I'm drawing a blank on that one.

My interpretation is that it was for an improved municipal road under some other program, but can't find any details of what that might be.

[dmuzika]

Found a link to the Saskatoon Freeway, a proposed partial ring road around Saskatoon, see https://saskatoonfreeway.org/. The study Phase I is complete and what's interesting is the Hwy 11 north would be slightly realigned and no longer connect to Idylwyld Drive but enter the city via Wanuskewin Road (Hwy 11 itself would probably follow the freeway around the city).

Here's a basic map of the Saskatoon Freeway, with the final alignment still in design.

Source: Saskatoon Star Phoenix, https://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-news/saskatoon-freeway-engagement-sessions-set-for-this-month/

[vdeane]

I wonder if the route numbers in the area would be rationalized when this is finished.

[Alps]

I wonder if the route numbers in the area would be rationalized when this is finished.

What's wrong with 11 and 16 following Circle Drive in both directions?

[dmuzika]

I wonder if the route numbers in the area would be rationalized when this is finished.

Based on the Regina Bypass, my guess is that west section will be Hwy 7, while the remainder will be Hwy 11/16. I wish Saskatchewan followed what happened in both Manitoba and Alberta where the main highway passes through the city on the pre-beltway alignment while the beltway/ring road is assigned a 3di number (Winnipeg - 100/101; Calgary - 201; Edmonton - 216). Saskatchewan already uses 100, 200, and 300 series highways, but the 400 series is available; Regina could have used 401 on its bypass while Saskatoon could use 416 - it doesn't look like that will happen.

[Stephane Dumas]

Looks like the improvements of SK-6/SK-9 had shrunk to passing lanes https://www.saskatchewan.ca/residents/transportation/highway-construction-projects/highway-6-and-39-corridor-improvements compared to the entire twinning of that corridor. https://web.archive.org/web/20180223152003/http://www.highways.gov.sk.ca/twinning6and39

[chays]

Question regarding Ring Road in Regina:
Wikipedia says the TCH designation was moved to the new bypass. There are GSV images from May 2021 that still show TCH 1 reassurance signs (https://goo.gl/maps/MQGGwhdZjespK5eV8). What is correct for Ring Rd and also Victoria Ave?

[oscar]

Question regarding Ring Road in Regina:
Wikipedia says the TCH designation was moved to the new bypass. There are GSV images from May 2021 that still show TCH 1 reassurance signs (https://goo.gl/maps/MQGGwhdZjespK5eV8). What is correct for Ring Rd and also Victoria Ave?

Wikipedia is correct. The signage you spotted is just old remnant signage, which wasn't removed after TCH 1 was rerouted. Heck, last I was there, ancient TCH signage could still be found on city streets in downtown Regina, from before the TCH was rerouted from Albert St. and Victoria Ave. onto the Ring Rd.

This is confirmed by newer signage (which I photographed 11/1/2019, right after the Regina Bypass opened to traffic):



^ Eastbound TCH 1, confirming that the route follows the Bypass south of Regina, and that the Ring Road is no longer a numbered highway.



^ Westbound TCH 1, confirming that the route follows the Bypass, with Victoria Ave. no longer a numbered route.

BTW, the exit numbers are in reverse east-to-west order. The transportation ministry, for some strange reason, logs its west-east routes starting at the Manitoba border. Unless something has changed since the Regina Bypass opened, the Bypass is Saskatchewan's only exit-numbered freeway.

[vdeane]

That's good, considering that this is the same province as Saskatoon.

[AsphaltPlanet]

BTW, the exit numbers are in reverse east-to-west order. The transportation ministry, for some strange reason, logs its west-east routes starting at the Manitoba border. Unless something has changed since the Regina Bypass opened, the Bypass is Saskatchewan's only exit-numbered freeway.

Ontario's mileage logs always start from the eastern end of the highway as well.  Obviously the exit numbers (with the exception of the 417) don't follow that standard however.