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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 11:55:15 PM

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LM117

Sharon Church Road between NC-11 and Lafayette Road north of Kinston will close from November 4 until November 8 for bridge girder installation as part of the Harvey Parkway extension project.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-10-31-lenoir-county-road-closure-bridge-girder.aspx
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette


LM117

#3076
The state treasurer wants Gov. Cooper to fire NCDOT Secretary Jim Trogdon.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article236864068.html
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tolbs17

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Overhead signs. Greenville, Washington, Snow Hill. I'm surprised that Goldsboro is not in there, lol.

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A picture at davenport farm road. Stop, STOP! Probably replacing the stop signs which is kinda stupid in my opinion, lol, haha.

sprjus4

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Quote from: mrhappy1261 on October 31, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
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Overhead signs. Greenville, Washington, Snow Hill. I'm surprised that Goldsboro is not in there, lol.
Don't see why Washington is a control city northbound... it isn't even on NC-11's routing.

Southbound, it's likely Kinston and some small town they probably threw in there.

But this confirms something - the bypass will be signed NC-11 Bypass. The exit number in that picture - 119 - also corresponds with NC-11's mileage. Any overlapping portions with other routings?

tolbs17

Quote from: sprjus4 on November 01, 2019, 06:19:33 AM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on October 31, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
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Overhead signs. Greenville, Washington, Snow Hill. I'm surprised that Goldsboro is not in there, lol.
Don't see why Washington is a control city northbound... it isn't even on NC-11's routing.

Southbound, it's likely Kinston and some small town they probably threw in there.

But this confirms something - the bypass will be signed NC-11 Bypass. The exit number in that picture - 119 - also corresponds with NC-11's mileage. Any overlapping portions with other routings?
Southboud IS Kinston. Yeah. I'm not sure why Washington is even on there, maybe if a southeast bypass is built, they can replace "Washington" with "Bethel"

And i'm not sure if there's any overlapping portions with other routings.

LM117

Quote from: sprjus4 on November 01, 2019, 06:19:33 AM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on October 31, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
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Overhead signs. Greenville, Washington, Snow Hill. I'm surprised that Goldsboro is not in there, lol.
Don't see why Washington is a control city northbound... it isn't even on NC-11's routing.

It's probably to encourage traffic to follow it to US-264 and follow the freeway/expressway around the north side of Greenville. The alternative is to use NC-11's current routing (Memorial Drive) and then follow Greenville Blvd to US-264 east of the city. Greenville Blvd is one of the most congested parking lots roads in Greenville, so I can see why NCDOT would want to keep any and all thru traffic off of city streets as much as possible, even if it does add more mileage.

That said, I think Bethel should be added as a control city on that sign and Greenville moved onto the other sign alongside Snow Hill.
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RoadPelican

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on October 31, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
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Overhead signs. Greenville, Washington, Snow Hill. I'm surprised that Goldsboro is not in there, lol.

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A picture at davenport farm road. Stop, STOP! Probably replacing the stop signs which is kinda stupid in my opinion, lol, haha.

Awesome pictures!  I think the STOP sign on the left looks a lot clearer than the one on the right, Pitt County has had the most auto accidents in NC for the last 5 or so years, so anything NCDOT can do to get roads safer is a plus in my book.

Looks like it the bypass should be open any day now!

LM117

“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

sprjus4

Quote from: RoadPelican on November 01, 2019, 09:37:13 AM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on October 31, 2019, 08:20:33 PM
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Overhead signs. Greenville, Washington, Snow Hill. I'm surprised that Goldsboro is not in there, lol.

http://prntscr.com/pqw0zm

A picture at davenport farm road. Stop, STOP! Probably replacing the stop signs which is kinda stupid in my opinion, lol, haha.

Awesome pictures!  I think the STOP sign on the left looks a lot clearer than the one on the right, Pitt County has had the most auto accidents in NC for the last 5 or so years, so anything NCDOT can do to get roads safer is a plus in my book.

Looks like it the bypass should be open any day now!
It's projected for November 2019, so hopefully within a week or two.

It looks like a completed expressway based on the pictures.

I plan on heading down there along with Pollocksville once this bypass and the US-17 bypass open. Hopefully both this month.

Roadsguy

Is it known if NC 11 Bypass will extend around the existing portion of the bypass concurrent with US 264? It would seem silly for it not to.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

sprjus4

Quote from: Roadsguy on November 01, 2019, 12:59:01 PM
Is it known if NC 11 Bypass will extend around the existing portion of the bypass concurrent with US 264? It would seem silly for it not to.
It would have to in order to maintain continuity.

It would stretch between each end of NC-11, overlapping US-264.

tolbs17

I wish 11 wasn't called a "bypass". Probably because there's no businesses around there yet, and maybe when there's businesses, it would be called NC 11 and the old route that goes on memorial dr can be called "NC 11 Business" That was the first plan but they updated ideas. Even US 13 won't be put on the new highway.

tolbs17

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Over here, they should add a right turn lane or upgrade and put superstreets (or signalize) this intersection. It looks like they are just widening it and it will drop down to one lane and it will become two again. This is a very dangerous stretch, it needs major improvement. And I wish there was a 'median', not a center turn lane. Those suck.

Like come on dude, really...
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Where's the right turn lane?!
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It would be better if it was improved like US 17 near Washington.


tolbs17

Quote from: sprjus4 on October 25, 2019, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: LM117 on October 25, 2019, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: planxtymcgillicuddy on October 25, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: LM117 on October 25, 2019, 09:22:02 AM
A contract was awarded for several Nashville/Rocky Mount area projects, which includes building an I-95/Sunset Avenue interchange.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-10-25-ncdot-awards-nash-county-projects.aspx

I would assume the Sunset Ave. interchange will added and the 64 interchange removed in anticipation of I-87, no?

No, the US-64 interchange will (and needs to) remain. The C/D lanes will be extended from the existing US-64 interchange to the new Sunset Ave interchange.

Here's the map:

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/nashville-rocky-mount-projects/Documents/i-95-carolina-coastal-us-64-map.pdf
If anything, they need to add flyovers from US-64 East to I-95 North, and US-64 West to I-95 South, especially if I-87 would increase traffic from the east & the existing major US-64 to I-95 North movement.
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I was thinking this would do the trick.

sprjus4

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on November 02, 2019, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 25, 2019, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: LM117 on October 25, 2019, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: planxtymcgillicuddy on October 25, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: LM117 on October 25, 2019, 09:22:02 AM
A contract was awarded for several Nashville/Rocky Mount area projects, which includes building an I-95/Sunset Avenue interchange.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-10-25-ncdot-awards-nash-county-projects.aspx

I would assume the Sunset Ave. interchange will added and the 64 interchange removed in anticipation of I-87, no?

No, the US-64 interchange will (and needs to) remain. The C/D lanes will be extended from the existing US-64 interchange to the new Sunset Ave interchange.

Here's the map:

https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/nashville-rocky-mount-projects/Documents/i-95-carolina-coastal-us-64-map.pdf
If anything, they need to add flyovers from US-64 East to I-95 North, and US-64 West to I-95 South, especially if I-87 would increase traffic from the east & the existing major US-64 to I-95 North movement.
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I was thinking this would do the trick.
Generally like that, except the I-95 SB -> US-64 EB flyover isn't necessary.

sprjus4

Here's a conceptual design -



The US-64 EB -> I-95 NB and US-64 WB -> I-95 SB loop-ramp movements would be replaced with 2-lane 55 mph flyovers. The remaining "legs" (US-64 WB -> I-95 NB, US-64 EB -> I-95 SB, I-95 NB -> US-64 EB, I-95 SB -> US-64 WB) would be realigned to accommodate 55 mph speeds. The remaining movements (I-95 SB -> US-64 EB, I-95 NB -> US-64 WB) would remain using the loops.

The C/D roads on US-64 would be mostly eliminated with parts of them retained to serve as long acceleration lanes separated from the mainline for the loops. The C/D roads on I-95 would remain in order to accommodate the future Sunset Ave interchange proposed that would utilize extended C/D roads, and they would also likely be widened to at least 2-lanes in areas where needed.

tolbs17

Nice concept design, sprjus!

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Question - When i was driving to the southwest bypass interchange at US 264, It still says 264 west Wilson. I'm not sure why they haven't added "Raleigh" in there? On the other end (which is the Knightdale bypass) it says "Rocky Mount, Wilson, Greenville" but on the Southwest bypass side it just says "Wilson". Any reasons why Raleigh was not put on the overhead sign? I don't have pictures, but I will try to take a shot when i drive over there again.

sprjus4

Quote from: mrhappy1261 on November 03, 2019, 01:47:31 PM
Question - When i was driving to the southwest bypass interchange at US 264, It still says 264 west Wilson. I'm not sure why they haven't added "Raleigh" in there? On the other end (which is the Knightdale bypass) it says "Rocky Mount, Wilson, Greenville" but on the Southwest bypass side it just says "Wilson". Any reasons why Raleigh was not put on the overhead sign? I don't have pictures, but I will try to take a shot when i drive over there again.
Assuming you're referring to this.

I don't know, and agree it should logically say "Wilson / Raleigh". The split of US-64 and US-264 at Zebulon outside Raleigh has "Wilson / Greenville" posted.


wriddle082

Quote from: LM117 on November 01, 2019, 11:36:55 AM
I-40 West through Pigeon River Gorge will close for up to 5 days this month.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-01-i-40-west-bridge-closed-gorge.aspx

Thank you for this!  I'll be traveling from Columbia, SC to Lexington, KY next weekend.  Looks like I'm gonna stay on I-26 and US 23 most of the way!

tolbs17

Also, the new southwest bypass US 264 interchange seriously needs lighting. Because when I drove on it today, it was PRETTY dark.

OracleUsr

Quote from: wriddle082 on November 04, 2019, 07:16:48 AM
Quote from: LM117 on November 01, 2019, 11:36:55 AM
I-40 West through Pigeon River Gorge will close for up to 5 days this month.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2019/2019-11-01-i-40-west-bridge-closed-gorge.aspx

Thank you for this!  I'll be traveling from Columbia, SC to Lexington, KY next weekend.  Looks like I'm gonna stay on I-26 and US 23 most of the way!


I'm glad my wife and I aren't travelling to her parents' house until Christmas this year.  We take exit 24, and I imagine traffic near the NC 209 interchange will already be backing up even though the closure will be 4 miles west.
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LM117

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Quote from: sprjus4 on November 03, 2019, 06:44:30 PM
Quote from: mrhappy1261 on November 03, 2019, 01:47:31 PM
Question - When i was driving to the southwest bypass interchange at US 264, It still says 264 west Wilson. I'm not sure why they haven't added "Raleigh" in there? On the other end (which is the Knightdale bypass) it says "Rocky Mount, Wilson, Greenville" but on the Southwest bypass side it just says "Wilson". Any reasons why Raleigh was not put on the overhead sign? I don't have pictures, but I will try to take a shot when i drive over there again.
Assuming you're referring to this.

I don't know, and agree it should logically say "Wilson / Raleigh". The split of US-64 and US-264 at Zebulon outside Raleigh has "Wilson / Greenville" posted.

I think Raleigh will probably be added once US-264 becomes I-587. That sign will have to be replaced anyway since there's no room there for both I-587 and US-264 shields.

The signs that never made sense to me are the ones approaching the I-795/US-264 split in Wilson. Alongside Goldsboro, Kenly is a control city for I-795 South. Anybody coming from west of I-95 that wants to go to Kenly will simply hop on I-95, not go down I-795 to US-301. Unless things have changed since I last lived near the area, there's nothing in Lucama that warrants that 'detour'.

Given that I-795's long-term purpose is to act as a shortcut to Wilmington, that city should take Kenly's place on the signs.
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sprjus4

Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
The signs that never made sense to me are the ones approaching the I-795/US-264 split in Wilson. Alongside Goldsboro, Kenly is a control city for I-795 South. Anybody coming from west of I-95 that wants to go to Kenly will simply hop on I-95, not go down I-795 to US-301. Unless things have changed since I last lived near the area, there's nothing in Lucama that warrants that 'detour'.

Given that I-795's long-term purpose is to act as a shortcut to Wilmington, that city should take Kenly's place on the signs.
Even if Kenly was on the I-795 route, it still shouldn't be signed - it's a small town of 1,000 population.

Using NCDOT's logic, why didn't they sign Fremont on I-795? Same population, and has an exit right to its front door from I-795.


LM117

Quote from: sprjus4 on November 05, 2019, 08:28:05 AM
Quote from: LM117 on November 05, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
The signs that never made sense to me are the ones approaching the I-795/US-264 split in Wilson. Alongside Goldsboro, Kenly is a control city for I-795 South. Anybody coming from west of I-95 that wants to go to Kenly will simply hop on I-95, not go down I-795 to US-301. Unless things have changed since I last lived near the area, there's nothing in Lucama that warrants that 'detour'.

Given that I-795's long-term purpose is to act as a shortcut to Wilmington, that city should take Kenly's place on the signs.
Even if Kenly was on the I-795 route, it still shouldn't be signed - it's a small town of 1,000 population.

Using NCDOT's logic, why didn't they sign Fremont on I-795? Same population, and has an exit right to its front door from I-795.

Every time I try to understand their logic regarding I-795, I get a headache. The 795/264 overlap still uses 264's mileposts and exit numbers and there are no roadside signs on I-795 showing how many miles it is to Goldsboro, Mount Olive*, Wilson, or Wilmington.

Another control city change on I-795 I'd like to see is at the US-301 interchange, heading northbound. I think Rocky Mount should be added as a control city with Raleigh.

(*I listed Mount Olive because it's a destination for trucks heading to the pickle plant.)
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