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Started by Alex, August 18, 2009, 12:34:57 AM

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D-Dey65

I finally saw the new Suffolk CR 16 Bridge over Long Island Avenue and the main line of the LIRR... and it's still a crummy TWO LANES!

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8197565,-72.9688191,3a,75y,323.92h,90.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEKkvgw8j_akgOwgsm9cUlA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu



roadman65

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KbMLk41fjJ5hvrSF6
So this is the future for lane closed Xs and lane open down arrows as seen on the Peace Bridge?
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

D-Dey65

Some of my fellow Long Islanders may know about this. Years ago, when Commack Road (Suffolk CR 4) was realigned around the newly constructed Edgewood State Hospital, a concrete pedestrian bridge was built over the new road.
https://www.denisbyrne.com/bridge.html
Well, Edgewood State was closed in 1971, and a bunch of locals started using it to ride their bikes around the woods. In the 2000's an effort to try to save the bridge failed, which was replaced by another crusade to build a new bridge. They were saying Suffolk County DPW was going to use it to widen the road in order to deal with traffic going to Tangier Outlets in Deer Park, but that road doesn't look widened to me.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7901264,-73.3032484,3a,75y,20h,88.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYZ9tkHaHY6jUOtGfeos2Rg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DYZ9tkHaHY6jUOtGfeos2Rg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D194.40234%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu

They also claimed that the bridge was capable of handling the clearance of most trucks:
http://www.denisbyrne.com/images/14.jpg
But I'd say that was just barely the case. In fact, that truck looks like it was using hydraulics to lower it's suspension on both the tractor and the trailer. The way I see it, that bridge was old, deteriorating, and was deemed useless, thus the reason for the bridge's demolition.


The formerly proposed Babylon-Northport Expressway (NY 231) was also supposed to run along the western edge of the hospital grounds and should've been built, but that's another topic.

So, who else knows about that old bridge, and other road-related issues near the former funny farm?


D-Dey65

See this link to NY 340 and the northern ramp to and from US 9W in Sparkhill, New York?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0312068,-73.9272041,3a,75y,47.54h,90.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEyOc2R-FoDBQHIv8hW4qw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
The sign under the US 9W shield pointing straight ahead should really be replaced with some kind of reverse turn directional sign.

Picture this;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W1-3L.svg
But with a white background and square.


If not, then at least this:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_M6-2PL.svg

And the Joseph B. Clarke Rail-Trail should be marked and signalized there too.


webny99

NY 404-Empire Blvd is currently closed between Winton Rd and Plank Rd due to a serious accident:
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/serious-accident-closes-down-empire-boulevard/


Rothman

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webny99

^ That's great to hear. I-81 in Broome County and north of Sandy Creek must be separate projects, but I hope they materialize soon so that I-81 will be consistent throughout.

Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on June 14, 2024, 03:05:32 PM^ That's great to hear. I-81 in Broome County and north of Sandy Creek must be separate projects, but I hope they materialize soon so that I-81 will be consistent throughout.

I would expect that as well.

I am hoping that NYSDOT's press release gets posted soon on this matter.

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vdeane

Honestly, they probably should have waited until the I-81 project is further along.  These numbers jumping around all over is going to confuse people.  Let's hope there's more coordination with Regions 7 and 9 than the article implies, given that those portions of I-81 aren't mentioned at all.

I wonder when the new numbers will be released and/or the contract plans available.

QuoteThe I-690 numbers will be based on the distance moving from west to east beginning at the New York state Thruway.
Did they forget about NY 690?

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The Ghostbuster

Maybe NY 690's exits will remain unnumbered. Both NY 690's and Interstate 690's exits should be numbered from the NY 48/NY 631 intersection eastward. Wikipedia has NY 481's future exit numbers posted, but Interstate 81, Interstate/NY 690 and Interstate 481 have not been changed to reflect the new exit numbers yet.

Rothman

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 14, 2024, 03:52:49 PMMaybe NY 690's exits will remain unnumbered. Both NY 690's and Interstate 690's exits should be numbered from the NY 48/NY 631 intersection eastward. Wikipedia has NY 481's future exit numbers posted, but Interstate 81, Interstate/NY 690 and Interstate 481 have not been changed to reflect the new exit numbers yet.

Well, duh.  The press release just came out today!
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Rothman

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vdeane

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 14, 2024, 03:52:49 PMMaybe NY 690's exits will remain unnumbered. Both NY 690's and Interstate 690's exits should be numbered from the NY 48/NY 631 intersection eastward. Wikipedia has NY 481's future exit numbers posted, but Interstate 81, Interstate/NY 690 and Interstate 481 have not been changed to reflect the new exit numbers yet.
Agreed.  It really does not make sense that NY 690 isn't numbered, especially as I-690's mileage includes NY 690's (and unless the exit numbers in one of the contract plans for the viaduct are wrong, won't be changing to reset at the Thruway).

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vdeane

#6988
Thinking about this some more, I wouldn't be surprised if the Broome County exits wait to change until the construction in Syracuse is concluded.  Otherwise there would be conflicting numbers.  The Jefferson County exits better change this year, however, otherwise we get the same problem (in fact, they really should change first).

EDIT: On the other hand, I-690 is going to have duplicate exit numbers for years to come, so now I don't know what to think.

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