Interchanges, but barely

[tsmatt13]

US 12 and ND 67 in Scranton, ND. I'd say this is about the least "barely" you could get, and it is the equivalent of half of the original post that started this thread.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Scranton,+ND/@46.1447184,-103.145239,461m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x532f25b75ed50e57:0x3da59a4fd6bf4f3e!8m2!3d46.1480618!4d-103.14295

This theme keeps coming up, so I should mention that the presence of a highway parallel to a railroad line complicates grade separations.  In most cases, these "Just Barely" interchanges are just sufficient enough to carry all of the traffic between both roads.

Also, looks like there appears to be some grading in the southwest quadrant of the interchange. Maybe there were once plans for another ramp?

[andrepoiy]

Highway 400 and Canal Road

https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.051295,-79.6077815,434m/data=!3m1!1e3

[pderocco]

What about this?



It's North Avenue and Mannheim Road in Melrose Park/Northlake/Stone Park, Illinois.

I'd say that's a real interchange, more or less a bowtie.

[index]

Different but still along the same lines is this primitive interchange built at the junction of the Lincoln Highway (US 30) and the Jefferson Highway (US 65) in the 1930s.

I like how the bare patch made by people driving over the grass to get to one of the on-ramps was recognized by Google Maps as an ramp. Looks like it was even officially recognized by the DOT, because they painted dashed lines for it that weren't there on old GSVs.

Wasn't there a thread about unofficial movements in dirt like this or something? I have no idea what you'd call it. A desire path but on the road?

[kirbykart]

NY 354 and NY 77 (uses a dead-end road as part of one of the ramps)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FcWnfo8QoA6dKJYr5
NY 78 and NY 324 (has 3 ramps)
https://maps.google.com/?q=4777+Transit+Rd%2C+Buffalo%2C+NY+14221&ftid=0x89d375b41ee0a697:0xc28cafc5bcabe2e5&entry=gps
NY 19 and US 20 (also connects a side road)
https://maps.google.com/?q=6990+US-20%2C+Pavilion%2C+NY+14525&ftid=0x89d3e134d7a6bef7:0x94cc19d5f1ae3f8d&entry=gps

[Georgia Guardrail]

Here's one in South Atlanta

https://www.google.com/maps/place/College+Park,+GA/@33.557607,-84.593181,17.39z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88f4c2c8f1d40cf1:0xce4ca60860081e!8m2!3d33.6534427!4d-84.4493725

There are lots of these types of "interchanges" on roads that run parallel to railroads in Georgia.  Some of them on bigger roads are more like folded diamonds.

[AzNate]

Along Grand Ave (US 60) in the Phoenix area are some... interesting interchange/intersection things due to Grand's diagonal course, parallel with a railroad track.

Grand/Olive/75th Ave in Peoria:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5672768,-112.2200367,564m/data=!3m1!1e3

Grand/Northern/67th Ave in Glendale:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5545428,-112.2031266,728m/data=!3m1!1e3

[kirbykart]

How could I forget... NY 240 at Indian Church Rd in West Seneca.

[webny99]

How could I forget... NY 240 at Indian Church Rd in West Seneca.

On that note, how about NY 15A at Brighton-Henrietta Townline Rd?

[GenExpwy]

How could I forget... NY 240 at Indian Church Rd in West Seneca.

On that note, how about NY 15A at Brighton-Henrietta Townline Rd?

For US 20/NY 5 at NY 14 in Geneva, the connecting roads are called "Cloverleaf Drive" .

[CapeCodder]

Barrett Pkwy at Barrett Station and Manchester Roads, Ballwin, MO. Both "ramps" are ri-ro's.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5971232,-90.4734587,314m/data=!3m1!1e3

[highwaytuna]

This one in Ithaca, NY.

[Rothman]

This one in Ithaca, NY.

There's one of those near Winter Quarters in Omaha.

[jakeroot]

Different but still along the same lines is this primitive interchange built at the junction of the Lincoln Highway (US 30) and the Jefferson Highway (US 65) in the 1930s.

I like how the bare patch made by people driving over the grass to get to one of the on-ramps was recognized by Google Maps as an ramp. Looks like it was even officially recognized by the DOT, because they painted dashed lines for it that weren't there on old GSVs.

Wasn't there a thread about unofficial movements in dirt like this or something? I have no idea what you'd call it. A desire path but on the road?

I'm still trying to figure out why that dirt patch is there. The "ramps" in both northern quadrants are two-way roads. Traffic going east-to-north and south-to-east merge left, and then merge into the other road.

[froggie]

Different but still along the same lines is this primitive interchange built at the junction of the Lincoln Highway (US 30) and the Jefferson Highway (US 65) in the 1930s.

I like how the bare patch made by people driving over the grass to get to one of the on-ramps was recognized by Google Maps as an ramp. Looks like it was even officially recognized by the DOT, because they painted dashed lines for it that weren't there on old GSVs.

Wasn't there a thread about unofficial movements in dirt like this or something? I have no idea what you'd call it. A desire path but on the road?

I'm still trying to figure out why that dirt patch is there. The "ramps" in both northern quadrants are two-way roads. Traffic going east-to-north and south-to-east merge left, and then merge into the other road.

Access for the farm that straddles that east-to-north access road.  That would otherwise be a very tight turn coming from the west on Old 30 for farm equipment.

[jakeroot]

Different but still along the same lines is this primitive interchange built at the junction of the Lincoln Highway (US 30) and the Jefferson Highway (US 65) in the 1930s.

I like how the bare patch made by people driving over the grass to get to one of the on-ramps was recognized by Google Maps as an ramp. Looks like it was even officially recognized by the DOT, because they painted dashed lines for it that weren't there on old GSVs.

Wasn't there a thread about unofficial movements in dirt like this or something? I have no idea what you'd call it. A desire path but on the road?

I'm still trying to figure out why that dirt patch is there. The "ramps" in both northern quadrants are two-way roads. Traffic going east-to-north and south-to-east merge left, and then merge into the other road.

Access for the farm that straddles that east-to-north access road.  That would otherwise be a very tight turn coming from the west on Old 30 for farm equipment.

I did see that. Didn't think enough traffic was generated by those three businesses to create such a huge desire path. Then again, that's really the only explanation.

[mgk920]

This one in Ithaca, NY.

There's one of those near Winter Quarters in Omaha.

This one in Ithaca, NY.

There's one of those near Winter Quarters in Omaha.

That's just like with WI 794 at Oklahoma Ave in Milwaukee, WI.
https://goo.gl/maps/ADJMZoML2Vmhj55t8
WI 794 was originally planned as a full six lane freeway with a standard diamond interchange for the street access here, but was downgraded by the mid 1970s before it could be built.

Mike

[US 89]

^ There's one of those in Box Elder County, Utah, at SR 13 and 12800 North (which, despite what Google thinks, is not SR 82 there).

A similar connection is required at Lagoon Drive and State Street in Farmington, as Lagoon serves as an immediate frontage road to I-15 there while State has a bridge over the freeways and train track.

[MATraveler128]

There's a similar one on US 1 in Topsfield, MA at Howlett Street.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6430172,-70.9386481,3a,75y,229.27h,88.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sReMcnF15G0wHsk2mdvve5w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DReMcnF15G0wHsk2mdvve5w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D115.79248%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

[Tom958]

AL 5 at US 80 is a diamond interchange built in the eighties. Despite there being ample room for proper merge areas, the onramps lack even a taper and are signed with stop signs like 1950s Pennsylvania. One even tees out as though to invite a wrong-way left turn into oncoming traffic-- there is no median break there, and it'd be redundant if there was. I guess ALDOT was extremely concerned that if they provided freeway-type merge areas, people who used them would think they were on a freeway.

Beyond that, the traffic volumes there must be extremely low, with little reason to change from one route to the other. All in all, a single quadrant interchange might've been a better plan. 

[US20IL64]

What about this?



It's North Avenue and Mannheim Road in Melrose Park/Northlake/Stone Park, Illinois.

I'd say that's a real interchange, more or less a bowtie.

Original interchange was built in the 1930's, when US 45 was a 'bypass' of Chicago. Bridge rebuilt in 70's. Not meant for 60-70 mph traffic. There are other old-style merges on US 41 in Lake Co. IL.

[Rick Powell]

This one is one of the more compressed interchanges you will see in a non-dense urban environment on an Interstate. It is in design to be replaced by a SPUI with longer ramps.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kankakee,+IL/@41.1180841,-87.8389575,1018m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x880dc2b2b5908a2b:0xfe14dca1c882a2dc!8m2!3d41.1200325!4d-87.8611531

[webny99]

This one is one of the more compressed interchanges you will see in a non-dense urban environment on an Interstate. It is in design to be replaced by a SPUI with longer ramps.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kankakee,+IL/@41.1180841,-87.8389575,1018m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x880dc2b2b5908a2b:0xfe14dca1c882a2dc!8m2!3d41.1200325!4d-87.8611531

More like Kankinky, no? 

[PurdueBill]

There's a similar one on US 1 in Topsfield, MA at Howlett Street.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6430172,-70.9386481,3a,75y,229.27h,88.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sReMcnF15G0wHsk2mdvve5w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DReMcnF15G0wHsk2mdvve5w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D115.79248%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

And Happy 100th Birthday to the bridge there--1922 date on it and it is still kicking!  With a name like Mass DPW, it has to be good!

(The great old narrow back roads and up-and-down hills on Route 1 in Topsfield hold good memories for me; I passed my drivers license road test on back roads and Route 1 in Topsfield with a state trooper doing the test.  It was child's play after driving with my Learner's Permit on Route 1 through Malden and Saugus, the Lynnway and Revere Beach Parkway, through the Sumner Tunnel onto the Central Artery and back over the Tobin Bridge...pretty empty back roads were almost silly at that point.)

The "new" IN 25 Hoosier Heartland route has a couple of the same type of connector-road setups with overpass, primarily enabled by the overpass needing to be there anyway for the parallel railroad. 
https://goo.gl/maps/VpoD1ZiU7VAFFoccA 
https://goo.gl/maps/PyzmHP6gmBTp13gN7
It is unlikely there would have been an overpass for just the county road; here is an example of where to give access to several nearby county roads where access was cut off, they extended another county road that had to go over 25 and loop 180 degrees to come down to it thanks to the railway.
https://goo.gl/maps/y2X2d15QD7xfZzv48

[paulthemapguy]

This one is one of the more compressed interchanges you will see in a non-dense urban environment on an Interstate. It is in design to be replaced by a SPUI with longer ramps.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kankakee,+IL/@41.1180841,-87.8389575,1018m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x880dc2b2b5908a2b:0xfe14dca1c882a2dc!8m2!3d41.1200325!4d-87.8611531

Thank god. That interchange is terrible for anyone trying to get on Interstate 57.  A SPUI was probably a good choice.