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The worst pain you’ve experienced
formulanone:
--- Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM ---I would submit that the amount of harm that comes about by giving a drug seeker drugs is probably less than the harm that would come from withholding them from someone who actually needs them. Or, at the very least, that the patient who is need of medication has a more compelling interest than the interest in keeping drugs from drug seekers.
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Freedoms are cut at the root of today's most pressing outlier, whether real or imaginary.
J N Winkler:
--- Quote from: kphoger on November 01, 2022, 09:47:12 AM ---Whenever I hear the phrase "so ask your doctor about" on TV ads, I think to myself: That's backward: my job is to tell the doctor what ails me, and it's my doctor's job to tell me about treatment options. And then I hear a story like Laura's...
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Allowing prescription drugs to be advertised on TV is in itself grotesquely backward.
--- Quote from: kphoger on November 01, 2022, 09:47:12 AM ---I don't doubt that women face obstacles of prejudice, but it would surprise me if migraine treatment were specifically one of them.
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It doesn't surprise me, simply because devaluation of women's pain is so widespread in medicine in general. The aspect of Laura's story that caught my eye was not that she was shined on when she sought treatment for pelvic pain, but rather that the gynecologist involved was a woman, given the starting assumption that a female physician is less likely to buy into internalized misogyny.
US 89:
--- Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM ---Doctors who aren't migraine specialists seem to think that migraines are made up. Actually, that's a problem migraine sufferers have in general—people who think "migraine" is a synonym for "really bad headache", when a migraine has a whole host of secondary symptoms besides just the headache. (This is so deeply entrenched that Excedrin makes a strong version of their product called "Excedrin Migraine", which is pharmacologically unsuitable for treating migraines; like all Excedrin products it is an NSAID, which tends to make actual migraines worse.) You basically have to find a neurologist who narrowly focuses on migraines specifically to get any actual help. The doctor whose solution to everything in life was "just lose weight" was a board-certified neurologist, but was still incompetent to treat a migraine patient.
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Huh? My brother gets migraines on occasion, and he's been told the big key to stopping them is to take an Advil (NSAID) quickly before it goes too far. And in his experience, that has worked. If he doesn't do that and is dehydrated enough, he might completely faint. That's happened in a couple of very interesting places, including a ski lodge and the front office of his middle school.
webny99:
I must confess to not knowing that migraines were different than really bad headaches. I used to get migraines, or at least what I called migraines, quite often in elementary and middle school. I still get them occasionally, but much less often. They usually develop in the afternoon or evening, so I don't usually treat it other than to sleep it off if it's really bad. Fortunately I've never fainted though, and never had one last for more than a day.
Scott5114:
--- Quote from: US 89 on November 02, 2022, 01:10:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2022, 12:14:11 PM ---Doctors who aren't migraine specialists seem to think that migraines are made up. Actually, that's a problem migraine sufferers have in general—people who think "migraine" is a synonym for "really bad headache", when a migraine has a whole host of secondary symptoms besides just the headache. (This is so deeply entrenched that Excedrin makes a strong version of their product called "Excedrin Migraine", which is pharmacologically unsuitable for treating migraines; like all Excedrin products it is an NSAID, which tends to make actual migraines worse.) You basically have to find a neurologist who narrowly focuses on migraines specifically to get any actual help. The doctor whose solution to everything in life was "just lose weight" was a board-certified neurologist, but was still incompetent to treat a migraine patient.
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Huh? My brother gets migraines on occasion, and he's been told the big key to stopping them is to take an Advil (NSAID) quickly before it goes too far. And in his experience, that has worked. If he doesn't do that and is dehydrated enough, he might completely faint. That's happened in a couple of very interesting places, including a ski lodge and the front office of his middle school.
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"Don't ever take an NSAID for a migraine because it will make it worse" is what the most prominent migraine doctor in Oklahoma has told my wife. It's possible that she has a different type of migraine than your brother, or perhaps your brother's condition isn't actually migraines but something else that has a bad headache as a symptom (I don't seem to remember fainting being on the list of possible migraine symptoms; it's not one my wife has). Or it's possible that the best migraine doctor in Oklahoma is total shit compared to the doctors in your state. Or maybe he was specifically talking about one type of NSAID (acetaminophen, maybe?) and I'm misremembering it as all NSAIDs. I don't know enough about medicine to say for sure one way or the other.
--- Quote from: webny99 on November 02, 2022, 10:05:06 AM ---I must confess to not knowing that migraines were different than really bad headaches. I used to get migraines, or at least what I called migraines, quite often in elementary and middle school. I still get them occasionally, but much less often. They usually develop in the afternoon or evening, so I don't usually treat it other than to sleep it off if it's really bad. Fortunately I've never fainted though, and never had one last for more than a day.
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Generally, besides the headache, other common migraine symptoms are nausea, sensitivity to light and sound, and "auras" (which Mayo Clinic describes as "flashes of light, blind spots, and other vision changes or tingling in your hand or face").
My wife's migraines often last for a week or more at a time. Although it's really hard to tell when one stops and the next one starts. It's easier to count the days when she doesn't have a migraine rather than when she does.
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