Things every roadgeek should know

Started by webny99, December 21, 2017, 06:57:07 PM

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formulanone

Quote from: sparker on December 22, 2017, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2017, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 22, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
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Another thing every roadgeek should know:
This is, without question, the longest single page on the forum  :D


Hey, Formula One:  when's the pop quiz?

I'm still very much a student at all this...

webny99

Surely we have not exhausted this topic yet (aside from formulaone's list :D)

You may also mention things that roadgeeks should know that are specific to your area. For example, a roadgeek from Rochester should know that the Outer Loop used to be NY-47, and the I-490/NY-590 junction used to be two dangerously close T-junctions.

I also think roadgeeks should know every exit, exit number, and control city in their immediate area by heart.

inkyatari

I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

kphoger

Things every roadgeek should know:

The way it's done in your district/state/country isn't necessarily the way it's done elsewhere, and that doesn't make everyone else "wrong".
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

kurumi

Some sources are better than others, but all sources are fallible. We've seen mistakes in:
* our own recollections
* what other people remember
* maps (typos, road classifications, etc.)
* websites (including mine)
* books
* newspaper articles
* DOT materials

Definitely find multiple sources for a fact if you can.

However, on occasion, something that looks like a typo will turn out to be true. Example: a segment of today's CT 187, shown on an old map as SR 921. Obvious mistake (thought at the time); there are no secret routes in the 900s. In truth, there were and still are.
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CtrlAltDel

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 21, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
The proper name for each state's route systems (e.g. that it is not Route 32 that you'll find in Kansas City, but K-32, that you won't find Route 9 in Oklahoma but State Highway 9, and that you won't find Highway 128 in Massachusetts but Route 128).

I'm well aware of these differences, although the part of me that likes consistency hates them, and I do not maintain them. That is, if I were talking about the preceding routes, I would refer to them as KS-32, OK-9, and MA-128.
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)

webny99

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on December 28, 2017, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 21, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
The proper name for each state's route systems (e.g. that it is not Route 32 that you'll find in Kansas City, but K-32, that you won't find Route 9 in Oklahoma but State Highway 9, and that you won't find Highway 128 in Massachusetts but Route 128).

I'm well aware of these differences, although the part of me that likes consistency hates them, and I do not maintain them. That is, if I were talking about the preceding routes, I would refer to them as KS-32, OK-9, and MA-128.

I also am in favor of using the above formatting, as I tend to place a high premium on consistency (especially within a state, but nationwide as well). Remembering all those differences seems like a lot of unnecessary work, although roadgeeks, of all people, should surely learn them by heart anyways  :paranoid:

jon daly

Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: froggie on December 22, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: webny99What else should every roadgeek know?

How to search....especially on this forum. I cannot stress how many times we see new threads begun on this forum by usually-newer users who ask questions without bothering to see if there was a previous thread with the answer they were looking for.

Ironically enough, that is one of the reasons I started this thread. That is also one of the reasons that I recommended this thread get a sticky tack.

I'm sort of a newbie; signing up years ago but only recently becoming active. I thought that I read somewhere here that we shouldn't dredge up old threads and pst in them. (Maybe this one is too old.) What If we have something new to add to a topic?

hotdogPi

Quote from: jon daly on May 17, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: froggie on December 22, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: webny99What else should every roadgeek know?

How to search....especially on this forum. I cannot stress how many times we see new threads begun on this forum by usually-newer users who ask questions without bothering to see if there was a previous thread with the answer they were looking for.

Ironically enough, that is one of the reasons I started this thread. That is also one of the reasons that I recommended this thread get a sticky tack.

I'm sort of a newbie; signing up years ago but only recently becoming active. I thought that I read somewhere here that we shouldn't dredge up old threads and pst in them. (Maybe this one is too old.) What If we have something new to add to a topic?

If it's an update on a road project, it's always better to revive the old thread than to start a new one, even if the thread is several years old.
Clinched

Traveled, plus 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

New:
I-189 clinched
US 7, VT 2A, 11, 15,  17, 73, 103, 116, 125, NH 123 traveled

webny99

Quote from: jon daly on May 17, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
I'm sort of a newbie; signing up years ago but only recently becoming active. I thought that I read somewhere here that we shouldn't dredge up old threads and post in them. (Maybe this one is too old.) What If we have something new to add to a topic?

You probably read that here.

This thread certainly isn't too old to revive - I started it only last December. We've had threads "bumped" five years later or even longer. Feel free to add whatever you want to this discussion; we have covered a lot of the bases, but it's not an exhaustive topic.

kphoger

Quote from: jon daly on May 17, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
I'm sort of a newbie; signing up years ago but only recently becoming active. I thought that I read somewhere here that we shouldn't dredge up old threads and pst in them. (Maybe this one is too old.) What If we have something new to add to a topic?

If you are adding meaningful content to the thread, then resurrecting it is OK.
If your post isn't all that meaningful, then it's better to just leave the thread in the grave.

That being said, everyone on here knows the search feature takes a lot of getting used to.  It's possible there's already a thread about what you want to say, but you can't find it.  So don't worry if people hassle you for not doing due diligence in searching for an existing topic; those folks are usually just the ones who've gotten halfway good at searching the forum and want to show off their mad skillz.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

formulanone

I've found that the search feature works best by starting at the main forum page, so it searches all sub-forums. If you get the maximum number of results (30), then you'll have to click on a forum category or sub-forum to narrow down results. You can also search through a particular thread, if you begin your search while reading that same thread.

MCRoads

Quote from: jon daly on May 17, 2018, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 22, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: froggie on December 22, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: webny99What else should every roadgeek know?

How to search....especially on this forum. I cannot stress how many times we see new threads begun on this forum by usually-newer users who ask questions without bothering to see if there was a previous thread with the answer they were looking for.

Ironically enough, that is one of the reasons I started this thread. That is also one of the reasons that I recommended this thread get a sticky tack.

I'm sort of a newbie; signing up years ago but only recently becoming active. I thought that I read somewhere here that we shouldn't dredge up old threads and pst in them. (Maybe this one is too old.) What If we have something new to add to a topic?

Well, if you have something to add, add it! Otherwise, your original post isn't very meaningful, and thus, this thread has been reserected for no good reason.
I build roads on Minecraft. Like, really good roads.
Interstates traveled:
4/5/10*/11**/12**/15/25*/29*/35(E/W[TX])/40*/44**/49(LA**)/55*/64**/65/66*/70°/71*76(PA*,CO*)/78*°/80*/95°/99(PA**,NY**)

*/** indicates a terminus/termini being traveled
° Indicates a gap (I.E Breezwood, PA.)

more room plz

jon daly

I did want to second the poster who said that this should be pinned.

webny99

Quote from: jon daly on May 18, 2018, 10:09:16 PM
I did want to second the poster who said that this should be pinned.

Well, thanks  :-P
I'm glad others found it helpful - I know I would have, had it been around when I joined. I was actually quite surprised to find that a similar thread didn't already exist (at least not that I could find).

SSR_317

Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Things every roadgeek should know:

The way it's done in your district/state/country isn't necessarily the way it's done elsewhere, and that doesn't make everyone else "wrong".
Unless, of course, it's naming an Interstate highway as an "Expressway" rather than a "Freeway".  :biggrin:

MCRoads

Quote from: SSR_317 on May 21, 2018, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Things every roadgeek should know:

The way it's done in your district/state/country isn't necessarily the way it's done elsewhere, and that doesn't make everyone else "wrong".
Unless, of course, it's naming an Interstate highway as an "Expressway" rather than a "Freeway".  :biggrin:

Pretty sure they are synonymous...
I build roads on Minecraft. Like, really good roads.
Interstates traveled:
4/5/10*/11**/12**/15/25*/29*/35(E/W[TX])/40*/44**/49(LA**)/55*/64**/65/66*/70°/71*76(PA*,CO*)/78*°/80*/95°/99(PA**,NY**)

*/** indicates a terminus/termini being traveled
° Indicates a gap (I.E Breezwood, PA.)

more room plz

hotdogPi

Quote from: MCRoads on May 21, 2018, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: SSR_317 on May 21, 2018, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Things every roadgeek should know:

The way it's done in your district/state/country isn't necessarily the way it's done elsewhere, and that doesn't make everyone else "wrong".
Unless, of course, it's naming an Interstate highway as an "Expressway" rather than a "Freeway".  :biggrin:

Pretty sure they are synonymous...

Some places make a distinction (freeways have a higher standard than expressways), while others don't.
Clinched

Traveled, plus 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

New:
I-189 clinched
US 7, VT 2A, 11, 15,  17, 73, 103, 116, 125, NH 123 traveled

jon daly

Is there a roadgeek dictionary? I know that clinching a route means driving or riding the entire distance, but what does it mean to clinch a county?

kphoger

Quote from: jon daly on May 21, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
what does it mean to clinch a county?

To most county clinchers, it means they've been there.  To others, it means they've visited the county seat.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

US71

Quote from: webny99 on December 21, 2017, 06:57:07 PM
For starters,  Breezewood, PA
What else should every roadgeek know?


Walk on Left, Facing Traffic
Like Alice I Try To Believe Three Impossible Things Before Breakfast

MNHighwayMan

Quote from: US71 on May 21, 2018, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: webny99 on December 21, 2017, 06:57:07 PM
For starters,  Breezewood, PA
What else should every roadgeek know?
Walk on Left, Facing Traffic

That's something everyone should know, though.

hbelkins

Quote from: kphoger on May 21, 2018, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: jon daly on May 21, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
what does it mean to clinch a county?

To most county clinchers, it means they've been there.  To others, it means they've visited the county seat.

I think the term "clinch" is misused where visiting counties is concerned. To me, in the county-collecting context, you visit counties and you clinch states when you visit all the counties in a state.

Quote from: MCRoads on May 21, 2018, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: SSR_317 on May 21, 2018, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Things every roadgeek should know:

The way it's done in your district/state/country isn't necessarily the way it's done elsewhere, and that doesn't make everyone else "wrong".
Unless, of course, it's naming an Interstate highway as an "Expressway" rather than a "Freeway".  :biggrin:

Pretty sure they are synonymous...

The late Randy Hersh didn't think so. I once posted a question to MTR about the NYC-area freeway system, and Randy never missed an opportunity to be a jerk. He proceeded to lecture me that "freeway" was a California term and they are "expressways" in NYC.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

formulanone

Quote from: hbelkins on May 21, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on May 21, 2018, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: SSR_317 on May 21, 2018, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Things every roadgeek should know:

The way it's done in your district/state/country isn't necessarily the way it's done elsewhere, and that doesn't make everyone else "wrong".
Unless, of course, it's naming an Interstate highway as an "Expressway" rather than a "Freeway".  :biggrin:

Pretty sure they are synonymous...

The late Randy Hersh didn't think so. I once posted a question to MTR about the NYC-area freeway system, and Randy never missed an opportunity to be a jerk. He proceeded to lecture me that "freeway" was a California term and they are "expressways" in NYC.

Not to speak ill of the dead, but there's always going to be some who don't understand that sometimes there's always going to be exceptions to the rules, and sometimes...that the rules might actually be the exceptions.



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