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US routes that multiplex before terminating

Started by agentsteel53, August 22, 2010, 08:48:27 PM

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bugo

Quote from: TheStranger on August 24, 2010, 02:37:09 PM
For that matter, US 71's short (Texarkana-area) run in Texas is along its concurrency with US 59!
The part that is entirely in Texas: yes.  The part that runs along the state line: no, even though it used to be.


agentsteel53

then they must do the fourth crossing separately, as each route begins in MI and then proceeds to WI.
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Quote from: ctsignguy on August 23, 2010, 11:24:39 PM
Back in the day, US 68 hooked up with US 25 in Findlay OH, and was concurrent all the way up to Toledo....

And on its other end, ran concurrently with US 62 and then US 60 to somewhere in downtown Paducah.


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flowmotion

Looking at old maps, this sort of ending multiplex was very common.

I suppose the intent was that it made it easier to give directions: "Just take US XXX to US YYY". However, the massive sign trees this practice created were probably found to be way too confusing.

bugo

Quote from: flowmotion on August 25, 2010, 02:36:40 AM
Looking at old maps, this sort of ending multiplex was very common.

I suppose the intent was that it made it easier to give directions: "Just take US XXX to US YYY". However, the massive sign trees this practice created were probably found to be way too confusing.

Back in the day, US routes often ended in the center of cities.  They started deleting the duplexes, and now it rarely happens.

TheStranger

Quote from: bugo on August 25, 2010, 02:37:41 AM
Quote from: flowmotion on August 25, 2010, 02:36:40 AM
Looking at old maps, this sort of ending multiplex was very common.

I suppose the intent was that it made it easier to give directions: "Just take US XXX to US YYY". However, the massive sign trees this practice created were probably found to be way too confusing.

Back in the day, US routes often ended in the center of cities.  They started deleting the duplexes, and now it rarely happens.

Chattanooga is probably one of the places where this traditional setup still occurs (routes ending in the center of town, concurrent with others).

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US 79's terminus is now at I-35 in Red Rock, TX, but decades ago it ended in downtown Austin while concurrent with US 81.
Chris Sampang

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While not a US route, Oh 3 is multiplexed over half of it length from Cincy to Columbus to Cleveland, including both of it's terminuses.
US 22 from near Fountain Square to Washington CH, US 62 from Washington CH to DT Columbus, US 36 from Sunbury to Mt. Vernon, and US 42 (according to ODOT) from Parma to Public Square.
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rarnold

US-270 and US 83 multiplex from about a 2 miles north of Turpin, OK, to the east side of Liberal, KS, the end of US-270. I believe it is 12 miles.

SSOWorld

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Quote from: AlpsROADS on August 22, 2010, 10:24:06 PM
No one mentioned US 46, which ends plexed with US 1/9 (and I-95).  Once upon a time, US 206 ended at US 6 plexed with US 209 - at least according to old signs in that area.

At the state border with NY no less  :-/

Quote from: corco on August 22, 2010, 10:38:28 PM
Wyoming is a bounty of such situations.

The obvious ones are US-14 and 16, which run concurrent with US-20 to Yellowstone before ending.

Same with US-18, which runs with 20 from Lusk to its terminus at Orin Junction (and before that with US-85!)
Don't they all "end" at the Yellowstone NP border anyway - technically?

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 24, 2010, 02:59:41 PM
then they must do the fourth crossing separately, as each route begins in MI and then proceeds to WI.
They merge in Michigan before entering Wisconsin - the concurrency lasts through that short stretch of WI and re-enters MI where they split - US 2 heads east - never entering WI again, US 141 heads south back into Wisconsin.  so only US 141 fits your criteria.
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Wisconsin - out-multiplexing your state since 1918.

thenetwork

Quote from: Adam Smith on August 25, 2010, 07:18:03 PM
While not a US route, Oh 3 is multiplexed over half of it length from Cincy to Columbus to Cleveland, including ... from Parma to Public Square.

Which, for as long as I have been around, ODOT has placed an "END SR-3" banner near the intersection of US 42 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=5300+ridge+road,+44129&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.598824,107.138672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=5300+Ridge+Rd,+Parma,+Cuyahoga,+Ohio+44129&ll=41.410784,-81.734456&spn=0.001046,0.00327&z=19&layer=c&cbll=41.410871,-81.734456&panoid=K3aUIwnMGPhZ28Axrxcl1A&cbp=13,25.83,,0,4.26, and has *NEVER* placed a SR-3 sign beyond that along US-42 for the past 40+ years either.  And yet, nearly every national map company still marks SR-3 into Downtown Cleveland. 

I hereby nominate the SR-3/US-42 non-multiplexed multiplex as the longest-running mapping error in the history of road maps!

dfilpus

Quote from: thenetwork on August 29, 2010, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: Adam Smith on August 25, 2010, 07:18:03 PM
While not a US route, Oh 3 is multiplexed over half of it length from Cincy to Columbus to Cleveland, including ... from Parma to Public Square.

Which, for as long as I have been around, ODOT has placed an "END SR-3" banner near the intersection of US 42 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=5300+ridge+road,+44129&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.598824,107.138672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=5300+Ridge+Rd,+Parma,+Cuyahoga,+Ohio+44129&ll=41.410784,-81.734456&spn=0.001046,0.00327&z=19&layer=c&cbll=41.410871,-81.734456&panoid=K3aUIwnMGPhZ28Axrxcl1A&cbp=13,25.83,,0,4.26, and has *NEVER* placed a SR-3 sign beyond that along US-42 for the past 40+ years either.  And yet, nearly every national map company still marks SR-3 into Downtown Cleveland. 

I hereby nominate the SR-3/US-42 non-multiplexed multiplex as the longest-running mapping error in the history of road maps!
The Straight Line Diagram for OH 3 shows it multiplexed with US 42 to Public Square. This is why the map companies show the multiplex: the official OHDOT documentation shows the multiplex. It would seem that the END SR 3 sign is a sign error, just like the US 42/SR 3 shield pair on SR 3 a few blocks south of the US 42/SR 3 split. It is between Ridgewood and Westlake on Ridge Road.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=5300+ridge+road,+44129&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.598824,107.138672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=5300+Ridge+Rd,+Parma,+Cuyahoga,+Ohio+44129&ll=41.410784,-81.734456&spn=0.001046,0.00327&z=19&layer=c&cbll=41.410871,-81.734456&panoid=K3aUIwnMGPhZ28Axrxcl1A&cbp=13,25.83,,0,4.26

Avalanchez71

Quote from: huskeroadgeek on August 22, 2010, 10:37:36 PM
US 56 and US 412 are multiplexed with each other from E. of Boise City, OK to their joint western terminus in Springer, NM.

US 412 is does multiplex near its other end in Columbia, TN but does end alone.  However, US 43 on the other hand, does multiplex with US 412 in Columbia, TN to end over at US 31.

Dirt Roads

On a technicality:  US-33 officially ends while multiplexed with US-250 on Broad Street in Richmond.  However, it appears that VDOT records show that US-33 is flipped over onto Leigh Street through the MCV campus and over the MLK Jr. Bridge in order to meet up with VA-33 at Mosby Street.

Another technicality in Virginia:  US-21 ends at I-81 west of Wytheville, but US-52 northbound hops off at the same exit.  Therefore, US-52 northbound never shares pavement with US-21 but US-52 southbound shares pavement with US-21 southbound from the official intersection of I-81/US-21 to the "eastbound" onramp.

Dirt Roads

I'm surprised this wasn't listed.  US-401 was multiplexed onto US-1 north of Norlina up to a new ending at I-85 near the Virginia state line back sometime about 2001.  That "unclinched" US-401 for me until I got rerouted through Norlina when I-85 shut down during an ice storm sometime in the last 10 years.

Takumi

In a similar vein to US 360, US 211 ends while overlapping with US 17/29 Business, at its own business route.
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Quote from: Takumi on November 05, 2020, 10:42:22 PM
In a similar vein to US 360, US 211 ends while overlapping with US 17/29 Business, at its own business route.

This used to make sense.  Before the US-17 section of the Warrenton Bypass was completed, it still ran through town and was multiplexed with US-211/Bus US-15/Bus-29.  In those days, US-211 and Bus US-211 (Winchester Street) both ended at the intersection of the Lee Highway and Broadview Avenue, where US-17 turned north and followed Broadview.  But even then, I always thought that US-211 should have continued on the Lee Highway until reaching US-15/US-29 at the bypass.  The way this worked out, the main exit for downtown Warrentown is marked as "To US-211" along with bannered shields for the business routes.

p.s.  My spellchecker incorrectly says it should be "bannerred" with two Rs.  Not sure if that's from the AA Forum kernel or from Firefox.

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US 40 ends at Silver Creek Junction, Utah while concurrent with US 189.

Mapmikey

Quote from: Dirt Roads on November 05, 2020, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: Takumi on November 05, 2020, 10:42:22 PM
In a similar vein to US 360, US 211 ends while overlapping with US 17/29 Business, at its own business route.

This used to make sense.  Before the US-17 section of the Warrenton Bypass was completed, it still ran through town and was multiplexed with US-211/Bus US-15/Bus-29.  In those days, US-211 and Bus US-211 (Winchester Street) both ended at the intersection of the Lee Highway and Broadview Avenue, where US-17 turned north and followed Broadview.  But even then, I always thought that US-211 should have continued on the Lee Highway until reaching US-15/US-29 at the bypass.  The way this worked out, the main exit for downtown Warrentown is marked as "To US-211" along with bannered shields for the business routes.

p.s.  My spellchecker incorrectly says it should be "bannerred" with two Rs.  Not sure if that's from the AA Forum kernel or from Firefox.


Neither of these descriptions is quite accurate.


US 211 Business has ended at US 29 Bus/US 211 (US 15 used to be with these two routes until the modern bypass for US 15-29 was built in 1986) jct with Blackwell since early 1980 (used to follow Old Alexandria Pike to end in the middle of the current US 15-17-29 interchange with US 15 Bus-29 Bus).  US 211 has also ended at the Blackwell intersection since July 1980 when it was truncated from Key Bridge.  US 211 never ended at Lee Hwy/Broadview which was the intersection that the interchange replaced.

Neither US 211, 211 ALT, nor 211 Business have ever used Winchester St, which has not been in the primary system south of Broadview since US 15 ALT was removed from it in 1953.

US 17 has never been on Broadview/Lee Hwy east of Winchester St - has always followed US 29 Business from the south end of the current bypass.  There WERE signs for trucks to go on the 1986 bypass then west on Broadview, but US 17 was definitely always on Broadview from the south.

I too believe US 211 should end at the US 15-17-29 interchange with US 15 Bus-29 Bus and it probably would if the 1986 bypass had already existed in 1980.

Flint1979

Quote from: thenetwork on August 22, 2010, 10:28:53 PM
There is US 223, which pairs up with US 23 for about 6 miles from near Blissfield, MI south to SR 51 in Sylvania (Toledo), OH. As mentioned previously, 223 was truncated in 1986 during the "Great Toledo Route Switch" when SR 51 followed much of US 223's old Ohio alignment from Downtown Toledo to US 23.

The question remains why Michigan and especially Ohio (for less than 1 stinkin' mile) continue to recognize US 223 along US 23. :banghead:
US-23 doesn't end there though, I think the OP was looking for one's that end together.

cwf1701

I know that in the old days, US-12 and US-16 multiplexed on Grand River Ave going into Downtown Detroit. Did it also briefly join US-112 (Michigan Ave) in Downtown Detroit to end at Woodward Ave (US-10)?

dgolub

Now that they've extended it to cover the full length of Corridor H, US 48 ends multiplexed with US 33 and US 119 in Weston, West Virginia.

Flint1979

Quote from: cwf1701 on November 06, 2020, 10:10:44 PM
I know that in the old days, US-12 and US-16 multiplexed on Grand River Ave going into Downtown Detroit. Did it also briefly join US-112 (Michigan Ave) in Downtown Detroit to end at Woodward Ave (US-10)?
I believe that both US-12 and US-16 came in on Grand River and turned onto Washington Blvd. ending at US-112 (Michigan Avenue). I do know though that US-12, US-16 and US-112 were all not mentioned at that intersection but US-10 and US-25 were. US-112 not being mentioned was strange though considering that route started on Michigan next to the old City Hall (now Kennedy Square).

ctkatz

us 42 at its southern terminus in louisville, ky not only duplexes with us 60 but at the terminal point is a 1 way street one block before the point where it joins with us 60.



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