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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #200 on: May 16, 2023, 02:48:48 PM »

Also, the bridge footprint has been reduced from 172 feet to 107 feet and the Cincinnati city council still wants it reduced more?

The city wants the footprint of the Ohio approach interchange complex to be reduced.
OK. When I read that post, I thought they were talking about the bridge.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #201 on: May 17, 2023, 12:23:21 PM »


Totally agree.  This is the logic I always used to avoid Chicago or New York City if I did not have to be in those cities.
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Personally, I'm hesitant to change route numbers, for example, I-74 through Peoria. I know there's a bypass they tell you to use, but I also know that I-74 goes to my destination, so why tempt fate. But I prefer the bypass around the Quad Cities to get to Interstate 80.

Professional drivers and local traffic aren't going to be swayed by a number, that is true. But the casual traveler making a split second decision may very well choose to leave well enough alone.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #202 on: May 17, 2023, 07:37:00 PM »

Switching route numbers in Cincy may have been a great idea ---in the days of paper maps and no GPS nor map apps...

Nowadays, technology has made route switching for EXISTING highways obsolete. It only makes sense if you are building a new highway along a new corridor. 
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #204 on: June 12, 2023, 01:50:38 PM »

I still keep expecting to see Erin McBride on those videos
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #205 on: July 26, 2023, 01:57:04 AM »

What is the bridge replacement supposed to look like ?
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #207 on: July 27, 2023, 08:50:46 PM »


A Walsh Construction and Kokosing Construction joint venture, named the Walsh Kokosing Design-Build Team, has been selected as the design-build contractor for the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project. According to ENR, it's a $3.1 billion contract award. Both Kokosing and Walsh are Midwest based, with Kokosing located in Westerville, Ohio, and Walsh in Chicago.

Read more about this major contract award here, here, and here.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #208 on: July 27, 2023, 10:38:54 PM »

Hereís one view:

https://brentspencebridgecorridor.com/

My only complaint about the design of the bridge is that it looks like a painted version of the I-471 "Big Mac Bridge".
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #209 on: July 28, 2023, 02:01:38 PM »


A Walsh Construction and Kokosing Construction joint venture, named the Walsh Kokosing Design-Build Team, has been selected as the design-build contractor for the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project. According to ENR, it's a $3.1 billion contract award. Both Kokosing and Walsh are Midwest based, with Kokosing located in Westerville, Ohio, and Walsh in Chicago.

Read more about this major contract award here, here, and here.

I understand from the Ohio side of things, but I figure Kokosing must have greased a lot of palms in Kentucky to get that job. How does Walsh fit in? Are they some kind of preferred contractor in Kentucky like Kokosing is in Ohio?
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #210 on: July 28, 2023, 02:44:58 PM »


A Walsh Construction and Kokosing Construction joint venture, named the Walsh Kokosing Design-Build Team, has been selected as the design-build contractor for the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project. According to ENR, it's a $3.1 billion contract award. Both Kokosing and Walsh are Midwest based, with Kokosing located in Westerville, Ohio, and Walsh in Chicago.

Read more about this major contract award here, here, and here.

I understand from the Ohio side of things, but I figure Kokosing must have greased a lot of palms in Kentucky to get that job. How does Walsh fit in? Are they some kind of preferred contractor in Kentucky like Kokosing is in Ohio?

Both Walsh and Kokosing are major contractors who have expertise and experience to tackle a major project like the Brent Spence Bridge Project. Neither company is a preferred contractor for a particular state or area. First and foremost is the ability to do the contracted job. And with the Brent Spence Bridge Project, the number of companies that can "do" the job, build that bridge, is not particularly large. Far from it. There's probably only 20 to 30 companies nationwide that have the ability to take on such a large project.

Because the Spence Bridge Project is such a major undertaking, Walsh and Kokosing decided to team up to form a joint venture. It's a plus Kokosing is located in Ohio, but if they had been headquartered in Tennessee or Kentucky, it would have made no difference in the contract award. Again, it's the expertise and experience of Walsh and Kokosing that led to the contract award. Typically, way before a contract is awarded, there's a step in the process called the RFQ (Request for Qualifications) in which companies have to put forward documentation to prove they have the ability to do the job. After that, often there's the RFP (Request for Proposals), where companies put forward how the intend to do the project, who will be the consulting and design engineers, etc., as well as cost projections.

As an example, here's an official ODOT announcement on how they intended to proceed in awarding the Brent Spence Bridge Project contract.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #211 on: July 29, 2023, 01:10:18 PM »


A Walsh Construction and Kokosing Construction joint venture, named the Walsh Kokosing Design-Build Team, has been selected as the design-build contractor for the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project. According to ENR, it's a $3.1 billion contract award. Both Kokosing and Walsh are Midwest based, with Kokosing located in Westerville, Ohio, and Walsh in Chicago.

Read more about this major contract award here, here, and here.

I understand from the Ohio side of things, but I figure Kokosing must have greased a lot of palms in Kentucky to get that job. How does Walsh fit in? Are they some kind of preferred contractor in Kentucky like Kokosing is in Ohio?

Both Walsh and Kokosing are major contractors who have expertise and experience to tackle a major project like the Brent Spence Bridge Project. Neither company is a preferred contractor for a particular state or area. First and foremost is the ability to do the contracted job. And with the Brent Spence Bridge Project, the number of companies that can "do" the job, build that bridge, is not particularly large. Far from it. There's probably only 20 to 30 companies nationwide that have the ability to take on such a large project.

Because the Spence Bridge Project is such a major undertaking, Walsh and Kokosing decided to team up to form a joint venture. It's a plus Kokosing is located in Ohio, but if they had been headquartered in Tennessee or Kentucky, it would have made no difference in the contract award. Again, it's the expertise and experience of Walsh and Kokosing that led to the contract award. Typically, way before a contract is awarded, there's a step in the process called the RFQ (Request for Qualifications) in which companies have to put forward documentation to prove they have the ability to do the job. After that, often there's the RFP (Request for Proposals), where companies put forward how the intend to do the project, who will be the consulting and design engineers, etc., as well as cost projections.

As an example, here's an official ODOT announcement on how they intended to proceed in awarding the Brent Spence Bridge Project contract.

All I know is what I see, and most of the jobs here in Ohio, at least in this part of the state, are either Kokosing or Shelly and Sands. Both Ohio companies. I know what official policy is, but I'm skeptical that they don't get all these jobs because they are Ohio companies and they are preferred. Nothing wrong with that by the way, I like keeping money in state. Walsh is what surprises me.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #212 on: July 29, 2023, 02:12:47 PM »


A Walsh Construction and Kokosing Construction joint venture, named the Walsh Kokosing Design-Build Team, has been selected as the design-build contractor for the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project. According to ENR, it's a $3.1 billion contract award. Both Kokosing and Walsh are Midwest based, with Kokosing located in Westerville, Ohio, and Walsh in Chicago.

Read more about this major contract award here, here, and here.

I understand from the Ohio side of things, but I figure Kokosing must have greased a lot of palms in Kentucky to get that job. How does Walsh fit in? Are they some kind of preferred contractor in Kentucky like Kokosing is in Ohio?

Both Walsh and Kokosing are major contractors who have expertise and experience to tackle a major project like the Brent Spence Bridge Project. Neither company is a preferred contractor for a particular state or area. First and foremost is the ability to do the contracted job. And with the Brent Spence Bridge Project, the number of companies that can "do" the job, build that bridge, is not particularly large. Far from it. There's probably only 20 to 30 companies nationwide that have the ability to take on such a large project.

Because the Spence Bridge Project is such a major undertaking, Walsh and Kokosing decided to team up to form a joint venture. It's a plus Kokosing is located in Ohio, but if they had been headquartered in Tennessee or Kentucky, it would have made no difference in the contract award. Again, it's the expertise and experience of Walsh and Kokosing that led to the contract award. Typically, way before a contract is awarded, there's a step in the process called the RFQ (Request for Qualifications) in which companies have to put forward documentation to prove they have the ability to do the job. After that, often there's the RFP (Request for Proposals), where companies put forward how the intend to do the project, who will be the consulting and design engineers, etc., as well as cost projections.

As an example, here's an official ODOT announcement on how they intended to proceed in awarding the Brent Spence Bridge Project contract.

All I know is what I see, and most of the jobs here in Ohio, at least in this part of the state, are either Kokosing or Shelly and Sands. Both Ohio companies. I know what official policy is, but I'm skeptical that they don't get all these jobs because they are Ohio companies and they are preferred. Nothing wrong with that by the way, I like keeping money in state. Walsh is what surprises me.

Walsh Construction shouldn't be a surprise. It's Chicago-based and has extensive expertise and experience building major bridges. According to its website, the company is ranked by Engineering News-Record as the largest bridge builder in the United States.

Kokosing is Ohio's largest construction contractor. They do a lot of road and bridge projects in Ohio and in neighboring states. That's why you see their signs a lot. In Indiana, for example, Kokosing built a major bridge over wetlands and the Patoka River as part of the I-69 corridor project. They were also tapped for the emergency repairs on the Brent Spence Bridge after the crash and fire.

It's possible the Brent Spence Bridge Project was just a little too big for Kokosing to tackle alone. But, by joining with Walsh, a very strong, experienced, well capitalized team was formed. And, in the end, it's probably best for all parties involved, particularly the states of Ohio and Kentucky who want this bridge built, and, more importantly, built right.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #213 on: July 31, 2023, 11:37:56 AM »

Kokosing has been winning more competitive bid projects in Kentucky recently. Of course a design-build partnership is a little different than a competitively-bid construction job, but I wouldn't read any shady dealings into this. Who knows what other joint ventures submitted a proposal for this design-build?
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #214 on: July 31, 2023, 06:26:19 PM »

Kokosing has been winning more competitive bid projects in Kentucky recently. Of course a design-build partnership is a little different than a competitively-bid construction job, but I wouldn't read any shady dealings into this. Who knows what other joint ventures submitted a proposal for this design-build?

I'm not necessarily saying that it's shady, but some money always goes around in campaign contributions. That's the way the system works.
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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #215 on: July 31, 2023, 07:49:19 PM »

Walsh seams to be doing a good job getting I-69 completed to Indianapolis

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Re: I-71/I-75 Brent Spence Bridge Replacement
« Reply #216 on: August 01, 2023, 06:23:17 AM »

Anybody has to be better than Blythe Construction, the Charlotte firm that gets most of the big contracts in the Carolinas.  They seem to completely botch anything they touch in SC, especially the I-85 widening fiasco thatís still ongoing north of Spartanburg.

TIL that Atlanta-based Archer Western, another firm that gets large project contracts in the Carolinas (and messes them up), is a wholly owned subsidiary of Walsh.  Hopefully Walsh wonít use any Archer Western resources on the Brent Spence project.
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