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Poll
Question: What do you call that carbonated refreshment?
Option 1: Soda votes: 41
Option 2: Pop votes: 23
Option 3: Coke votes: 5
Option 4: Soda-pop votes: 1
Option 5: Cola votes: 1
Option 6: Fizzy Drink votes: 1
Option 7: Other votes: 6
Title: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DaBigE on January 13, 2013, 08:35:17 PM
Since the cola wars (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8445.50) thread was heading this way, what term is preferred by the roadgeeking world?

Follow-up: anyone else referred to regular cola as "leaded" and diet as "unleaded"? I heard that one quite a few years ago at a Pizza Hut...haven't heard it since.




My personal preference is soda, with Coke and soda-pop being acceptable alternatives. My philosophy is soda is something you drink; you don't drink a sound (pop).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Ian on January 13, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
"Soda" is what I usually call it. I personally have not heard people call soft drinks anything other than "soda's" in person being that I'm from the Northeast.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on January 13, 2013, 08:58:13 PM
It's just how I grew up....everyone else called them cokes, & Coca-cola CLASSIC was my favorite.  Everything else was just a different flavored coke.

About the name "pop"....isn't that what the fizzy bubbles in the cokes do when they float to the top of the glass?  They pop!  :-P
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 1995hoo on January 13, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
Soda.

But if you buy it from a machine, you're buying a soda from a Coke machine, regardless of whose logo is on the machine (or even whether there is a logo at all). It's always a Coke machine.

If I were from Brooklyn I guess I'd call it "soder."
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cpzilliacus on January 13, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
"Soda" or "Coke."

And I rarely consume "real" Coke.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Duke87 on January 13, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
I remember when I was maybe about 8 years old and I heard a friend of mine who's originally from Washington (state) say "mom, can I have a pop?" I had never heard the term before and it took me a few seconds to figure out what he was talking about.

I've always called it "soda", as does everyone else from around here. And yeah, some people in my family pronounce it "soder". That's a Bronx thing as well as a Brooklyn thing.
Corrolary to this: there is no such thing as "ginger ale" here - it's pronounced "jinja rail".

I was at least able to figure out what my friend had said since I had heard it referred to on TV and such as "soda pop" (I suppose the makers of mass media choose a compromise).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 13, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
Since moving to from New Jersey ("soda" land) to Washington ("pop" land), I've slowly transitioned primarily to "soda pop", occasionally slipping and calling it "pop" and hating myself for it later.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: nexus73 on January 13, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
Down South the term I heard was "cold drink".  "Soft drink" is another term I hear.  As for me, I just buy Barq's Root Beer and call it Barq's!

Rick
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: amh424 on January 13, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
I first learned the term "pop" at a young age, so that's what I generally prefer.  For some reason, I get irritated by the four letter "s" word.  Though often, when I go to a restaurant, I ask what kind of "soft drinks" they have, using a more neutral term.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Sykotyk on January 13, 2013, 10:42:09 PM
Western PA/Eastern OH is quite strongly "pop" land. Soda is the clear bubbly stuff in mixed drinks.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: CentralCAroadgeek on January 13, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
I'm more used to saying "soda," which I think is the term most Californians use.

I'm also used to soda being referred to as "soft drinks" as that's what they call soda in the Philippines. (I'm Filipino)
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: empirestate on January 13, 2013, 11:27:28 PM
Although I grew up firmly in pop-land (Rochester, NY), I never took to using the term and I tend to eschew it even today. I'm not even sure I can cite any specific term as my personal preference, since I'm not sure it's a topic I discuss often enough to have a go-to term. I do sometimes flippantly use the term "sody-pop", probably more often than any serious usage. :-)

Oh, and this thread is definitely in the wrong board, since the soda/pop line through NYS is pretty well defined by I-81.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 14, 2013, 12:06:01 AM
When I'm feeling snarky, I'll ask what 'flavored carbonated sugar water' the establishment has to offer.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: drummer_evans_aki on January 14, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
I'm originally from Hawaii and now living in Portland, OR. Where I'm from, the word "pop" was always used as a threat.

"What? You like me pop you one?"

Now I come here, I ask for a soda, people look at me like I'm speaking a foreign language.

Kinda like going to a coffee shop and asking for a cup of coffee praying they don't ask you what flavor.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 01:04:07 PM
As I posted in the cola wars thread, I grew up "pop" but have been converted to "soda" by my wife.

When we lived in southern Illinois, some people called it "sodie" or "sodie pop".  But, then, they also said "terlet paper", so there goes any credibility.

I had a classmate in college who, upon moving from "soda" country to Chicago, was once asked if he would like a pop.  He answered:  No thanks, I don't do drugs.  He honestly had no idea that "pop" referred to soda.

On a tangent.....
Do you call it a soda machine, a pop machine, or a coke machine?
Do you call it a soda fountain, a pop fountain, or a coke fountain?
Do you call it a soda distributor, a pop distributor, or a code distributor?
Are any of your answers different than what you call soda/pop/coke?
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 1995hoo on January 14, 2013, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on January 13, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
....

I've always called it "soda", as does everyone else from around here. And yeah, some people in my family pronounce it "soder". That's a Bronx thing as well as a Brooklyn thing.
Corrolary to this: there is no such thing as "ginger ale" here - it's pronounced "jinja rail".

....

Indeed as a kid I was quite surprised the first time I saw the label with the words "ginger ale" because I thought it was something along the lines of what you cite. Both my parents are from Brooklyn, though it was only my mother who added the "r" on the ends of words.

You know the red plants people buy at Christmas time? When I was a kid I thought those were called "point setters."

Anyway, back to "soda" versus "pop"–the first time I remember hearing the word "pop" was in the fifth or sixth grade from another kid's parent at school. There was some kind of class party and I was told to bring "red pop" and when I asked what "pop" is I was told not to be a smart-aleck. I meant the question seriously!
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DaBigE on January 14, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Do you call it a soda machine, a pop machine, or a coke machine?
soda or vending machine

Do you call it a soda fountain, a pop fountain, or a coke fountain?
None of the above. I usually just say "the machines" or a more generic "over there", referring to the self-serve machines found in many fast food chains. Fountain is reserved for a decoration in a public space or something drinking water comes out of (although the latter is usually referred to as a "bubbler" around here)

Do you call it a soda distributor, a pop distributor, or a coke distributor?
Soda or xyz distributor (replace xyz with the brand in question.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on January 14, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Do you call it a soda fountain, a pop fountain, or a coke fountain?
None of the above. I usually just say "the machines" or a more generic "over there", referring to the self-serve machines found in many fast food chains. Fountain is reserved for a decoration in a public space or something drinking water comes out of (although the latter is usually referred to as a "bubbler" around here)

How do refer to the kind of pop/soda/coke/seltzer/tonic/soft drink that comes from the tap behind the counter?  Draught Mountain Dew?
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DaBigE on January 14, 2013, 01:57:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on January 14, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
Do you call it a soda fountain, a pop fountain, or a coke fountain?
None of the above. I usually just say "the machines" or a more generic "over there", referring to the self-serve machines found in many fast food chains. Fountain is reserved for a decoration in a public space or something drinking water comes out of (although the latter is usually referred to as a "bubbler" around here)

How do refer to the kind of pop/soda/coke/seltzer/tonic/soft drink that comes from the tap behind the counter?  Draught Mountain Dew?

I just call it out by the brand. "Gimme a Coke...etc." On second thought, I may have referred to it as "whatever you/they have on-tap". I think the term "soda fountain" has been mainly lost amongst my generation, at least around here. Unless it was at a bar, the places I've been all have the self-serve type of machines.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 01:45:18 PM

How do refer to the kind of pop/soda/coke/seltzer/tonic/soft drink that comes from the tap behind the counter?  Draught Mountain Dew?

if the store sells both packaged and fountain, then I will refer to it as "and I'd like a [size] cup of [brand] from the fountain".

also: around here, beer taps are spelled "draft".  is "draught" found somewhere in the US?  I thought it was solely a British spelling.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: empirestate on January 14, 2013, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
also: around here, beer taps are spelled "draft".  is "draught" found somewhere in the US?  I thought it was solely a British spelling.

In my experience the British spelling is used to evoke Britain. Or Ireland. Otherwise, the "draft" spelling predominates in the States.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: corco on January 14, 2013, 02:49:21 PM
QuoteDo you call it a soda machine, a pop machine, or a coke machine?

Heh, even though I do call it soda, I call the machine a coke machine
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: US71 on January 14, 2013, 04:18:19 PM
Kum & Go ran a promotion a few Summers ago: soda vs pop. You "voted" by buying a blue cup for "soda" or a red cup for "pop".

When the promotion ended, they sold purple cups saying "soda pop".
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 14, 2013, 04:28:23 PM
I call it pop. Always have.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 1995hoo on January 14, 2013, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: corco on January 14, 2013, 02:49:21 PM
QuoteDo you call it a soda machine, a pop machine, or a coke machine?

Heh, even though I do call it soda, I call the machine a coke machine

I said the same back at the beginning of this thread.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: deathtopumpkins on January 14, 2013, 04:47:20 PM
I always call it soda. I've never in my life heard anyone call it anything else, like pop. Which surprises me since I have family from all over New England and Oklahoma, and I grew up in the mid-Atlantic.

I have heard "soft drink" plenty in things like commercials, and small print on labels and packages, though.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: ghYHZ on January 14, 2013, 05:04:10 PM
Atlantic Canada........it's Pop.

During the tourist season someone will come into a McDonalds or KFC etc. here and ask for a Soda.......then you'll see the blank stare on the poor kid behind the counter trying to figure out what they want.   
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jwolfer on January 14, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
I use soda.  i grew up in NJ but I live in the South and my mom is from here so... the question "what kind of coke do you want?"  would be easily understood to be generic.  I think Coca-Cola really tries to eliminate the gneric use of of the term Coke
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 06:15:54 PM
Quote from: empirestate on January 14, 2013, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 14, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
also: around here, beer taps are spelled "draft".  is "draught" found somewhere in the US?  I thought it was solely a British spelling.

In my experience the British spelling is used to evoke Britain. Or Ireland. Otherwise, the "draft" spelling predominates in the States.

I just like the spelling 'draught'.  I hardly ever see it actually spelled out, usually just spoken.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on January 14, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on January 13, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
Down South the term I heard was "cold drink".

Rick
That's how people down here refer to beer.  They don't want just a beer....they want a "COLD BEER"!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jwolfer on January 14, 2013, 07:54:50 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 14, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on January 13, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
Down South the term I heard was "cold drink".

Rick
That's how people down here refer to beer.  They don't want just a beer....they want a "COLD BEER"!   :cheers:

Cold drink is usually non-alcoholic around here... You can go to the First Baptist Church picnic with a cooler full of "cold drinks"
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 08:49:07 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 14, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Quote from: nexus73 on January 13, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
Down South the term I heard was "cold drink".

Rick
That's how people down here refer to beer.  They don't want just a beer....they want a "COLD BEER"!   :cheers:

My dad usually orders beer in a room-temperature glass, being sick of the trend to automatically serve it in frosty mugs.  The other day, we were at Red Robin for part of our son's birthday celebration, and he ordered a Guiness in a room-temperature glass.  The waitress just could not get it through her head that someone wouldn't want a frozen glass.  She directly asked him if he was serious or being sarcastic.  His response of "you'll never find it in a frozen glass over there" did little to persuade her of the legitimacy of his request.

...segue...

So, this brings up a new question:  Are there sodas/pops you like colder than others?  I absolutely refuse to drink root beer with ice, but I like my Coca-Cola at near freezing temps–a little slush, in fact, is a good thing.  Warm Diet Mountain Dew is one of the nastiest beverages on the planet, yet people heat Dr Pepper up on the stove.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on January 14, 2013, 09:27:14 PM
Pop machine or coke machine.

But having said that, soda fountain, although to me that evokes memories of the local downtown drugstore that had a lunch counter, and the soda fountain provided not only pop but milk shakes, floats, etc.

I don't refer to distributors at all, but i would probably say soft drink distributor.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Duke87 on January 14, 2013, 10:20:42 PM
I will drink soda anywhere from ice cold to warm. But that said, I appreciate it cold on a hot summer day, and do not see the point of it being cold in winter.

That said, I don't like soda with ice in it. It just takes up volume in the glass or cup that would otherwise be occupied by soda, and then it melts and waters the drink down (and watered down soda is gross). I don't mind so much at sit down restaurants where you finish the soda before the ice really has a chance to melt, but for those LARGE cups from fast food joints which will last you anywhere from hours to a whole day this becomes a problem.

Also, whose stupid idea was it to stick lemon slices on glasses of diet soda? Eew.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: bugo on January 15, 2013, 07:59:35 AM
I'm from west central Arkansas and I've always called it "coke."  I lived in Kansas City where it was "soda."  I now live in Tulsa where it's "pop."  To me, "soda" is baking soda and "pop" is a lame genre of music.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DandyDan on January 15, 2013, 03:11:28 PM
It's always been pop to me, except that when I go to Chipotle, I'll ask for a soda, since they only sell "sodas", which you fill up yourself.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on January 15, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Fountain cokes are best with just a little bit of crushed ice, like the kind you get at Sonic.  I've never had a large fountain drink ever last me any longer than 20 minutes. 
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: english si on January 15, 2013, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 08:49:07 PMMy dad usually orders beer in a room-temperature glass, being sick of the trend to automatically serve it in frosty mugs.  The other day, we were at Red Robin for part of our son's birthday celebration, and he ordered a Guiness in a room-temperature glass.
While Guinness have created Extra-Cold for these people who have no taste, and even sell it in the UK and Ireland, it is bizarre to even have to ask for it.
QuoteThe waitress just could not get it through her head that someone wouldn't want a frozen glass.
I can't get why anyone would. Maybe lager, but not stout.

Worst is Whiskey/Whisky 'on the rocks' - you may want a drop of water to ease out those delicate flavours but ice will trap them - the smell will be reduced, for instance.
QuoteSo, this brings up a new question:  Are there sodas/pops you like colder than others?  I absolutely refuse to drink root beer with ice, but I like my Coca-Cola at near freezing temps–a little slush, in fact, is a good thing.  Warm Diet Mountain Dew is one of the nastiest beverages on the planet, yet people heat Dr Pepper up on the stove.
None with ice, especially not already-watered-down fountain drinks (worst is crushed ice, which just waters it down quickly - the 'James Bond option'). Ice-cold is silly, removing most of the taste (certainly any brand-distinctive taste). Room Temperature is perhaps a little warm, but 'cellar cold' is fine, especially on hot days, where cellar cold is cold in comparison and cold days where you don't need cooling down. Actual heating is going a bit far (unless making a glaze for meat).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DandyDan on January 16, 2013, 07:11:57 AM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 08:49:07 PM
So, this brings up a new question:  Are there sodas/pops you like colder than others?  I absolutely refuse to drink root beer with ice, but I like my Coca-Cola at near freezing temps–a little slush, in fact, is a good thing.  Warm Diet Mountain Dew is one of the nastiest beverages on the planet, yet people heat Dr Pepper up on the stove.

I myself prefer cold pop, but my mother likes room temperature pop for some weird reason, no matter what kind (generally Coke, Pepsi, or Dr Pepper).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: exit322 on January 16, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 15, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Fountain cokes are best with just a little bit of crushed ice, like the kind you get at Sonic.  I've never had a large fountain drink ever last me any longer than 20 minutes. 

If "like the kind you get at Sonic" is just a little bit of crushed ice, I'd hate to see how much ice it'd take for you to think that a lot has been used.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: triplemultiplex on January 16, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 08:49:07 PM
Warm Diet Mountain Dew is one of the nastiest beverages on the planet...
Fixed it for you.

We would argue about soda vs. pop with our Michigan cousins pretty much every time we got together.  Us Wisconsinites were soda, the Michiganders were pop.  It was always in fun though, because we thought the argument was so stupid.  To this day, we bring it up on purpose just to laugh about it.

Map:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstrangemaps.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F08%2Fpopvssodamap.gif&hash=22752923345ac195d67821bbe2cd7edaa17710ea)
Discuss!
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on January 16, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 16, 2013, 02:35:01 PM

We would argue about soda vs. pop with our Michigan cousins pretty much every time we got together.  Us Wisconsinites were soda, the Michiganders were pop.  It was always in fun though, because we thought the argument was so stupid.  To this day, we bring it up on purpose just to laugh about it.

Map:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstrangemaps.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F08%2Fpopvssodamap.gif&hash=22752923345ac195d67821bbe2cd7edaa17710ea)
Discuss!
I think they showed this map on "You Don't Know Dixie".

Quote from: exit322 on January 16, 2013, 09:42:30 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 15, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Fountain cokes are best with just a little bit of crushed ice, like the kind you get at Sonic.  I've never had a large fountain drink ever last me any longer than 20 minutes. 

If "like the kind you get at Sonic" is just a little bit of crushed ice, I'd hate to see how much ice it'd take for you to think that a lot has been used.
When restaurants fix my drink, they load it down with ice and very little drink.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 1995hoo on January 16, 2013, 03:31:21 PM
I remember once upon a time at a McDonald's asking for a soda with no ice and getting a cup that was half empty. When I asked why the cup was so empty, the worker said that that was where the ice would have gone. This was back in the days when they stuck the cup under the dispenser and then simply hit a button for the appropriate size of cup and it filled the cup and then shut off automatically. However, there was also another button up above to allow them to top off the cup. I guess this guy was just lazy.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DaBigE on January 16, 2013, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 16, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
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Interesting "soda swath" that almost splits Wisconsin in half. :hmmm:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: kphoger on January 16, 2013, 04:35:02 PM
Gives new meaning to red states and blue states.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Takumi on January 16, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
Virginia's all over the place.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: tchafe1978 on January 17, 2013, 11:08:14 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on January 16, 2013, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 16, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
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Interesting "soda swath" that almost splits Wisconsin in half. :hmmm:

I can attest to that. I grew up in the Milwaukee suburbs, and myself and everyone I knew called it soda. I had cousins from "up nort" who9 called it pop. We'd argue (all in fun, of course) about whether it was soda or pop. I would point to the spot on the can where it said "soda" to prove I was right. Nowhere on the can does it say "pop"! I also had similar arguments with my roommate when I first went off to college in the southwest part of the state, and he was from a nearby town. Now I've settled down in the southwest part of the state, and nearly everyone around here calls it pop, including my wife. I still call it soda, though I have to catch myself calling it pop every once in a while, and have to correct myself. I'm trying to get my kids to call it soda, but so far I'm failing. So that great divide in Wisconsin between soda and pop is all too real for me.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: realjd on January 18, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
Quote from: english si on January 15, 2013, 04:47:20 PM
Worst is Whiskey/Whisky 'on the rocks' - you may want a drop of water to ease out those delicate flavours but ice will trap them - the smell will be reduced, for instance.

Exception: bourbon. They bottle it high-proof on purpose so when you put a couple of ice cubes in it, it doesn't get too watery. Plus you get to see how the flavors change as the ice melts.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 18, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 18, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
Exception: bourbon. They bottle it high-proof on purpose so when you put a couple of ice cubes in it, it doesn't get too watery. Plus you get to see how the flavors change as the ice melts.

hm, I never knew that.  here I thought high-proof bourbon was bottled that way simply because it's how it comes out of the barrel. 

I enjoy 80-proof bourbon with ice.  mostly I'll drink it neat, but sometimes that ice cube is just the ticket.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: SteveG1988 on January 18, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
It is soda, you get a can of sprite it says Lemon-Lime Soda on the side, that is what i used to prove it is called soda
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Brandon on January 18, 2013, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on January 18, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
It is soda, you get a can of sprite it says Lemon-Lime Soda on the side, that is what i used to prove it is called soda

And Faygo has a flavor called "Red Pop".  Your point?
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 18, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 18, 2013, 02:18:53 PM

And Faygo has a flavor called "Red Pop".  Your point?

I'll bet if we enumerated the number of drinks marked "soda" and the number of drinks marked "pop", soda would win by about a 10:1 margin at least.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: english si on January 18, 2013, 02:50:57 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 18, 2013, 01:32:28 PMException: bourbon. They bottle it high-proof on purpose so when you put a couple of ice cubes in it, it doesn't get too watery. Plus you get to see how the flavors change as the ice melts.
Most bourbon is bottled at the standard 80 proof/40% abv (watered down slightly anyway). High proof whiskey can take a bit more than a few drops of water, but it's less the watering down that's the problem with ice in Whiskey, but the cold (see, for instance, here (http://cocktails.about.com/od/whiskeyindepth/a/When-To-Add-Water-Or-Ice-To-Whiskey.htm), where they recommend a cube of ice in high-proof whiskey, but to leave it to warm up). This (http://www.whiskyforeveryone.com/whisky_basics/adding_water_or_ice.html) has no problem with a bit of water and recommends it, but says a big no to ice. The flavours change by improving greatly as the drink warms up!

Same with other drinks - what's wrong with cellar cold? Even fridge cold is often too warm and you have to make it ice cold - dulling the flavour. And the way you do that is to add so much ice that when it melts, there's about 50% water and 50% soda/pop/coke!
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 1995hoo on January 18, 2013, 02:54:20 PM
I find that if I drink Booker's (generally bottled at around 126 proof) I usually need one ice cube to cut its rather severe bite. My brother once said that Booker's with no ice will make the hair on your balls stand on end. I think that's as good a description as any I've heard.

But otherwise, I drink them all neat.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: realjd on January 19, 2013, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: english si on January 18, 2013, 02:50:57 PM
Quote from: realjd on January 18, 2013, 01:32:28 PMException: bourbon. They bottle it high-proof on purpose so when you put a couple of ice cubes in it, it doesn't get too watery. Plus you get to see how the flavors change as the ice melts.
Most bourbon is bottled at the standard 80 proof/40% abv (watered down slightly anyway). High proof whiskey can take a bit more than a few drops of water, but it's less the watering down that's the problem with ice in Whiskey, but the cold (see, for instance, here (http://cocktails.about.com/od/whiskeyindepth/a/When-To-Add-Water-Or-Ice-To-Whiskey.htm), where they recommend a cube of ice in high-proof whiskey, but to leave it to warm up). This (http://www.whiskyforeveryone.com/whisky_basics/adding_water_or_ice.html) has no problem with a bit of water and recommends it, but says a big no to ice. The flavours change by improving greatly as the drink warms up!

Same with other drinks - what's wrong with cellar cold? Even fridge cold is often too warm and you have to make it ice cold - dulling the flavour. And the way you do that is to add so much ice that when it melts, there's about 50% water and 50% soda/pop/coke!

I've admittedly never purchased bourbon in the UK market, but here in the states, any bourbon that isn't Jim Beam is at least 90 proof (and Jack Daniels isn't bourbon). And don't add enough ice to make it 50% water; just add enough to take the bite off of the high proof alcohol. Usually it only takes a couple of ice cubes. And a slight chill lends itself to bourbon since it's less refines than scotch.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Scott5114 on January 19, 2013, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 18, 2013, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on January 18, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
It is soda, you get a can of sprite it says Lemon-Lime Soda on the side, that is what i used to prove it is called soda

And Faygo has a flavor called "Red Pop".  Your point?

Faygo Redpop is not fit for human consumption, so...
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Sykotyk on January 19, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2013, 01:04:07 PM
As I posted in the cola wars thread, I grew up "pop" but have been converted to "soda" by my wife.

When we lived in southern Illinois, some people called it "sodie" or "sodie pop".  But, then, they also said "terlet paper", so there goes any credibility.

I had a classmate in college who, upon moving from "soda" country to Chicago, was once asked if he would like a pop.  He answered:  No thanks, I don't do drugs.  He honestly had no idea that "pop" referred to soda.

On a tangent.....
Do you call it a soda machine, a pop machine, or a coke machine? Pop Machine
Do you call it a soda fountain, a pop fountain, or a coke fountain? Soda Fountain
Do you call it a soda distributor, a pop distributor, or a code distributor? Pop Distributor
Are any of your answers different than what you call soda/pop/coke? Yes, it's Pop. Soda Fountains are things at old Apothecary shops
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: kphoger on January 19, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 19, 2013, 02:06:59 PM
Faygo Redpop is not fit for human consumption, so...

Amen.  I remember liking Big Red.  What was I thinking!
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on January 19, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
Isn't Faygo Redpop strawberry soda? I thought Big Red was something else entirely.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Mr_Northside on January 20, 2013, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 19, 2013, 02:06:59 PM
Faygo Redpop is not fit for human consumption, so...

Amen.  I remember liking Big Red.  What was I thinking!

All this talk, and now I have a slight craving for some Cherokee Red, which I haven't had in years.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Scott5114 on January 21, 2013, 12:38:40 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 19, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
Isn't Faygo Redpop strawberry soda? I thought Big Red was something else entirely.

I am pretty sure they have a strawberry soda that isn't the Redpop. They have peach and orange, both labeled just that, so I don't know why they'd break convention for strawberry.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: exit322 on January 24, 2013, 11:35:20 AM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on January 20, 2013, 01:50:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 19, 2013, 02:06:59 PM
Faygo Redpop is not fit for human consumption, so...

Amen.  I remember liking Big Red.  What was I thinking!

All this talk, and now I have a slight craving for some Cherokee Red, which I haven't had in years.

Sorry for the bump for this...but it's actually "Cherikee Red."  Yep, they spell "Cherokee" wrong...makes it classier, I think.  It doesn't taste as good as I remember it, but it doesn't really matter now that I've taken the artificial food colorings (FD&C Red 40, in this case) out of my diet.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: bandit957 on May 13, 2017, 09:53:10 PM
Pop is what bubble gum does, so we usually call it something else to avoid confusion.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: slorydn1 on May 13, 2017, 10:08:14 PM
Its whatever flavor I'm in the mood for that day: Cream Soda, Root Beer, Orange Crush, Mountain Dew, Pepsi (coke is something that's added to the mixture to make steel and isn't fit for drinking).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Brandon on May 13, 2017, 11:25:10 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on May 13, 2017, 09:53:10 PM
Pop is what bubble gum does, so we usually call it something else to avoid confusion.

Soda is a caustic substance.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: US71 on May 13, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
I'll have iced tea, please

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Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: slorydn1 on May 14, 2017, 12:03:41 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 13, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
I'll have iced tea, please

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Make that a SWEET tea.... :-D
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jwolfer on May 14, 2017, 12:05:04 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 13, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
I'll have iced tea, please

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Down South no need to say Iced... Tea is sweet and iced and brewed..not instant... You have to qualify "Hot tea"

LGMS428

Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Roadgeekteen on May 14, 2017, 01:17:23 AM
I call it soda, I have never heard anyone call in anything else.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: texaskdog on May 14, 2017, 01:34:48 AM
Pop, and I'm a Minnesotan who moved to Texas
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: texaskdog on May 14, 2017, 01:35:10 AM
Quote from: jwolfer on May 14, 2017, 12:05:04 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 13, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
I'll have iced tea, please

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Down South no need to say Iced... Tea is sweet and iced and brewed..not instant... You have to qualify "Hot tea"

LGMS428



Sweet or unsweet?
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 14, 2017, 01:41:24 AM
Always called it soda, except there is a distributor in my area called Pop Shop, but we all know they distribute sodas.  I have heard tonic used in greater Boston.  Coastal people (including Californians) call it soda.  Midwesterners (Cleveland, Denver) call it pop.  My Texan friend said any carbonated beverage is called Coke.  Tea and coffee are served hot unless specified as iced and add ins are only added as requested.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on May 14, 2017, 03:16:54 AM
I went to a pizza buffet in Denton in fall 2015. It was one of those buffets where the drink is an extra charge. I instinctively asked the guy at the counter for a cup for pop and he didn't know what pop was. Realizing this I rephrased to "fountain drink" and he understood. It should be noted that English wasn't his first language so it was understandable that he didn't know, but I still find it an amusing story.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 14, 2017, 05:30:00 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

It certainly is a thing....  I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.  The Mid-West was really big on "pop" while the east coast was big on "Soda."  Around places like Texas, New Mexico, and some of the surrounding states it would be "Coke."  Granted some of the regional slangs have started to fall apart in the last couple decades across some regions as people are migrating towards the Sun Belt.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 14, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 14, 2017, 05:30:00 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

It certainly is a thing....  I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.  The Mid-West was really big on "pop" while the east coast was big on "Soda."  Around places like Texas, New Mexico, and some of the surrounding states it would be "Coke."  Granted some of the regional slangs have started to fall apart in the last couple decades across some regions as people are migrating towards the Sun Belt.

Sorta like how my dad will call all pastas Spaghetti.

"What are you having for dinner?"
"Spaghetti"
I stop by, and see raviolis on the plate.  :-D
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: bmorrill on May 14, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

Used to be a Southern thing, and more properly "a Co-Cola".
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: US71 on May 14, 2017, 10:17:46 AM
Quote from: bmorrill on May 14, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

Used to be a Southern thing, and more properly "a Co-Cola".
RC Cola and a moonpie

SM-G930V

Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on May 14, 2017, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 14, 2017, 10:17:46 AM
Quote from: bmorrill on May 14, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

Used to be a Southern thing, and more properly "a Co-Cola".
RC Cola and a moonpie

SM-G930V


A fine, high-class delicacy if I do say so myself!
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 1995hoo on May 14, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 14, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 14, 2017, 05:30:00 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

It certainly is a thing....  I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.  The Mid-West was really big on "pop" while the east coast was big on "Soda."  Around places like Texas, New Mexico, and some of the surrounding states it would be "Coke."  Granted some of the regional slangs have started to fall apart in the last couple decades across some regions as people are migrating towards the Sun Belt.

Sorta like how my dad will call all pastas Spaghetti.

"What are you having for dinner?"
"Spaghetti"
I stop by, and see raviolis on the plate.  :-D

My mom always called traffic lights "stop lights," regardless of whether you actually had to stop. If she were giving directions to their house, she might tell someone to exit the Beltway and "go through six stop lights, then make the next right turn."
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 7/8 on May 14, 2017, 01:22:40 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 14, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 14, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 14, 2017, 05:30:00 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

It certainly is a thing....  I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.  The Mid-West was really big on "pop" while the east coast was big on "Soda."  Around places like Texas, New Mexico, and some of the surrounding states it would be "Coke."  Granted some of the regional slangs have started to fall apart in the last couple decades across some regions as people are migrating towards the Sun Belt.

Sorta like how my dad will call all pastas Spaghetti.

"What are you having for dinner?"
"Spaghetti"
I stop by, and see raviolis on the plate.  :-D

My mom always called traffic lights "stop lights," regardless of whether you actually had to stop. If she were giving directions to their house, she might tell someone to exit the Beltway and "go through six stop lights, then make the next right turn."

I often calll them "stop lights" even though it doesn't make that much sense.

As for soda vs. pop, everyone here calls it pop. Growing up, I thought soda was the technical name that no one would actually use, but I learned several years ago that it's actually a regional thing.

When I first heard about calling all pop "coke", I thought that seemed so confusing. But I guess it's similar to how I call all tissues "Kleenex".
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: MisterSG1 on May 14, 2017, 01:53:13 PM
Generally across Canada, the term "pop" is used by most, but oddly enough I've been saying the word "soda" for a very long time despite no one else I know does. My relatives used to use "sodapop" so perhaps it may have to do with that.

Even so in Canada, Kim Mitchell's most well known song was about soda, not pop.  :D
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: 7/8 on May 14, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: MisterSG1 on May 14, 2017, 01:53:13 PM
Even so in Canada, Kim Mitchell's most well known song was about soda, not pop.  :D

I guess "might as well go for a pop" doesn't sound quite as catchy :)
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: texaskdog on May 15, 2017, 08:45:31 AM
I live in Austin and no one refers to all drinks as Coke.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: texaskdog on May 15, 2017, 08:46:06 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on May 14, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: MisterSG1 on May 14, 2017, 01:53:13 PM
Even so in Canada, Kim Mitchell's most well known song was about soda, not pop.  :D

I guess "might as well go for a pop" doesn't sound quite as catchy :)

It worked for Barney Fife "I'm going to get a bottle of pop and go to Thelma Lou's and watch some TV"
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: inkyatari on May 15, 2017, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 14, 2017, 12:03:41 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 13, 2017, 11:47:21 PM
I'll have iced tea, please

SM-G930V


Make that a SWEET tea.... :-D

Yuck! Keep that sweet junk in the south! Unsweet Iced Tea!  You want it sweet? Get sugar packets!
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Rothman on May 15, 2017, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on May 15, 2017, 08:45:31 AM
I live in Austin and no one refers to all drinks as Coke.
Austin is a bubble.

I actually thought it was a Georgia thing.

All I know is that educated people say "soda," people who never matured past elementary school say, "pop," and people who have no brains for themselves whatsoever and are slaves to Fox News and Coca-Cola call everything, including Pepsi, "coke."
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on May 15, 2017, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 15, 2017, 12:56:24 PM

All I know is that educated people say "soda," people who never matured past elementary school say, "pop,"

Bullcrap, and you of all people (being from Floyd County, Ky.) should know better. Around here, everyone (including people with master's degrees like me) call it "pop." "Soda" is something that pretentious northeasterners say.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Brandon on May 15, 2017, 01:41:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 15, 2017, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on May 15, 2017, 08:45:31 AM
I live in Austin and no one refers to all drinks as Coke.
Austin is a bubble.

I actually thought it was a Georgia thing.

All I know is that educated people say "soda," people who never matured past elementary school say, "pop," and people who have no brains for themselves whatsoever and are slaves to Fox News and Coca-Cola call everything, including Pepsi, "coke."

Right.  I find arrogant east coasters call it "soda".  Normal, sane people call it "pop", or maybe "coke".
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Rothman on May 15, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 15, 2017, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 15, 2017, 12:56:24 PM

All I know is that educated people say "soda," people who never matured past elementary school say, "pop,"

Bullcrap, and you of all people (being from Floyd County, Ky.) should know better. Around here, everyone (including people with master's degrees like me) call it "pop." "Soda" is something that pretentious northeasterners say.
I am not from Floyd County, KY.  My mother is.  :D
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Mr_Northside on May 15, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 14, 2017, 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 14, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 14, 2017, 05:30:00 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 14, 2017, 03:36:27 AM
I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

It certainly is a thing....  I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.  The Mid-West was really big on "pop" while the east coast was big on "Soda."  Around places like Texas, New Mexico, and some of the surrounding states it would be "Coke."  Granted some of the regional slangs have started to fall apart in the last couple decades across some regions as people are migrating towards the Sun Belt.

Sorta like how my dad will call all pastas Spaghetti.

"What are you having for dinner?"
"Spaghetti"
I stop by, and see raviolis on the plate.  :-D

My mom always called traffic lights "stop lights," regardless of whether you actually had to stop. If she were giving directions to their house, she might tell someone to exit the Beltway and "go through six stop lights, then make the next right turn."

Another thing I hear a lot, along those lines, is calling every utility pole a "telephone pole", regardless of what function the pole is there for, or if there is even any telephone company infrastructure on it all.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hotdogPi on May 15, 2017, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on May 15, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
Another thing I hear a lot, along those lines, is calling every utility pole a "telephone pole", regardless of what function the pole is there for, or if there is even any telephone company infrastructure on it all.

:colorful: :-D :spin:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on May 15, 2017, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 15, 2017, 01:41:37 PM
Right.  I find arrogant east coasters call it "soda".  Normal, sane people call it "pop", or maybe "coke".

The only time people really use the generic "coke" for any brand or flavor of pop is sometimes they will ask, "do you want to get a Coke?"

My wife will sometimes say that, when in reality she's going to be bringing me a Diet Coke, Diet Vernor's or Diet Ale-8.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: empirestate on May 15, 2017, 09:50:59 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 14, 2017, 05:30:00 AM
I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.

You misspelled "Dr Pepper". :spin:

(Hey, you said actual name...)
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: sparker on May 16, 2017, 05:04:15 AM
The terminology, at least out here on the west coast, seems to be a matter of time rather than geography.  IIRC, from the 50's through the '70's the more common reference was "pop" (anyone remember Sprig lemon-lime and the various Birely's fruit flavors? -- or "green cola"?).  "Soda" seemed to supplant it as the basic term somewhere in the early '80's.  Still, folks older than myself often use "pop"; I can't recall a time in the last 30+ years that I've referred to it as anything but soda. 

Another long-gone oldie: Delaware Punch!  (I loved the stuff as a kid!)
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on May 16, 2017, 06:39:42 AM
Quote from: sparker on May 16, 2017, 05:04:15 AM
The terminology, at least out here on the west coast, seems to be a matter of time rather than geography.  IIRC, from the 50's through the '70's the more common reference was "pop" (anyone remember Sprig lemon-lime and the various Birely's fruit flavors? -- or "green cola"?).  "Soda" seemed to supplant it as the basic term somewhere in the early '80's.  Still, folks older than myself often use "pop"; I can't recall a time in the last 30+ years that I've referred to it as anything but soda. 

Another long-gone oldie: Delaware Punch!  (I loved the stuff as a kid!)

Not long gone at all. We still have it here in Louisiana.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: sparker on May 16, 2017, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 16, 2017, 06:39:42 AM
Quote from: sparker on May 16, 2017, 05:04:15 AM
The terminology, at least out here on the west coast, seems to be a matter of time rather than geography.  IIRC, from the 50's through the '70's the more common reference was "pop" (anyone remember Sprig lemon-lime and the various Birely's fruit flavors? -- or "green cola"?).  "Soda" seemed to supplant it as the basic term somewhere in the early '80's.  Still, folks older than myself often use "pop"; I can't recall a time in the last 30+ years that I've referred to it as anything but soda. 

Another long-gone oldie: Delaware Punch!  (I loved the stuff as a kid!)

Not long gone at all. We still have it here in Louisiana.

Holy shit!  Blackened redfish, red beans & rice, and Delaware Punch?  I'll be right down!  Never saw it on a menu; should have checked the markets last time I was in NOLA!  Wonder if anyone ships?????
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on May 17, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
Quote from: sparker on May 16, 2017, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 16, 2017, 06:39:42 AM
Quote from: sparker on May 16, 2017, 05:04:15 AM
The terminology, at least out here on the west coast, seems to be a matter of time rather than geography.  IIRC, from the 50's through the '70's the more common reference was "pop" (anyone remember Sprig lemon-lime and the various Birely's fruit flavors? -- or "green cola"?).  "Soda" seemed to supplant it as the basic term somewhere in the early '80's.  Still, folks older than myself often use "pop"; I can't recall a time in the last 30+ years that I've referred to it as anything but soda. 

Another long-gone oldie: Delaware Punch!  (I loved the stuff as a kid!)

Not long gone at all. We still have it here in Louisiana.

Holy shit!  Blackened redfish, red beans & rice, and Delaware Punch?  I'll be right down!  Never saw it on a menu; should have checked the markets last time I was in NOLA!  Wonder if anyone ships?????

I haven't seen them in restaurants, but you can buy them at Brookshires grocery stores (and their other stores named "Super 1") and maybe Wal-Mart, but I need to check that.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: inkyatari on May 17, 2017, 08:57:21 AM
I don't care what you call it, soft drinks from Mexico kick ass.

Pineapple Jarritos, and Sidral Mundet..  MMMM  Then there' imported Coke.  (insert drug joke here.)
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: sparker on May 17, 2017, 06:28:27 PM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 17, 2017, 08:57:21 AM
I don't care what you call it, soft drinks from Mexico kick ass.

Pineapple Jarritos, and Sidral Mundet..  MMMM  Then there' imported Coke.  (insert drug joke here.)

Around here (San Jose, CA) Jarritos is on the shelf of most major markets; we've got a "discount" chain called Grocery Outlet that stocks most of their flavors -- this, and imported Coke, is one of the advantages of living in an area with a significant Latino population.  All those products feature real cane sugar rather than the ubiquitous HF corn syrup, so while they don't do much for weight-loss diets, they certainly taste better!  I may drink one of these two or three times a year (I do like Jarritos Lime); but my normal fare is diet soda (Cherry Zero Coke is the current favorite).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: slorydn1 on May 17, 2017, 07:25:24 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on May 15, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
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I'm from Maryland, if the Maryland flag to the left of this post didn't make it obvious enough, and it's pretty much universally "soda". I have been through "pop country", however. And apparently calling every soda Coke is a Texas thing?

It certainly is a thing....  I've lived so many places that I generally just found it either to call a particular carbonated beverage by the actual name; Coke, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, ect.  The Mid-West was really big on "pop" while the east coast was big on "Soda."  Around places like Texas, New Mexico, and some of the surrounding states it would be "Coke."  Granted some of the regional slangs have started to fall apart in the last couple decades across some regions as people are migrating towards the Sun Belt.

Sorta like how my dad will call all pastas Spaghetti.

"What are you having for dinner?"
"Spaghetti"
I stop by, and see raviolis on the plate.  :-D

My mom always called traffic lights "stop lights," regardless of whether you actually had to stop. If she were giving directions to their house, she might tell someone to exit the Beltway and "go through six stop lights, then make the next right turn."

Another thing I hear a lot, along those lines, is calling every utility pole a "telephone pole", regardless of what function the pole is there for, or if there is even any telephone company infrastructure on it all.


Thats funny, because we call all of those either "light poles" or "power poles" (both denoting the assumption that all of the lines strung across them are power lines). So, when the power company turns off your power because you haven't paid the bill they came and "cut your lights off".

Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: ColossalBlocks on May 17, 2017, 10:24:28 PM
Damn, I didn't think a thread like this would gain this much traction.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 17, 2017, 10:38:54 PM
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Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
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Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: sparker on May 18, 2017, 02:30:50 AM
Somehow, that stat map shown looks a bit spurious.  The drastic differences across state lines shouldn't happen in any sort of scenario, particularly with adjoining counties.  Anecdotally, I resided in Portland in the '90's -- and don't recall any particular penchant for calling the stuff "pop"; the term "soda" seemed to be used as often as anything.  If the map is a depiction of a particular study, the n per county should be part and parcel of the survey techniques.  If the sample in one county is significantly larger than that of a similarly sited county, that needs to be factored into the data.

I've done regression analyses professionally for 30+ years, and I've never seen a geographic distribution like what is shown here -- the methodology was obviously low-n disaggregated anecdotal notations.  But it's carbonated-beverage off-the-cuff references, so why consider it significant in any way!?!?  (Having said that, I've actually seen dissertations on subjects even more banal than this one!) X-( 
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: slorydn1 on May 18, 2017, 02:55:19 AM
Banility causes anality! Or do I have that backwards? Oh never mind..... :banghead:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on May 18, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Around where we call Pepsi "nasty shit".
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: empirestate on May 18, 2017, 09:07:01 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Generically, anyway. Pepsi would be a type of coke, as would Coke, Diet Coke, Diet Pepsi, Dr Pepper, root beer, etc....
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on May 18, 2017, 09:37:31 AM
Since I don't speak the same language it's hard to tell. But here in Spain people call that soft drink "Coca-Cola" generically, even if it's Pepsi. So my choice is clear: Coke, like in the deep South and Texas.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 18, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Around where we call Pepsi "nasty shit".
Pepsi and coke taste the same.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: intelati49 on May 18, 2017, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 18, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Around where we call Pepsi "nasty shit".
Pepsi and coke taste the same.

I can tell the difference, but I can't qualify the difference. There's just something "off" about Pepsi.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on May 18, 2017, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 18, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Around where we call Pepsi "nasty shit".
Pepsi and coke taste the same.

Not really. And Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi definitely taste different. Diet Pepsi is nasty and I will only drink it under protest or if there are no other diet soft drinks available.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: DaBigE on May 18, 2017, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on May 18, 2017, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 18, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Around where we call Pepsi "nasty shit".
Pepsi and coke taste the same.

I can tell the difference, but I can't qualify the difference. There's just something "off" about Pepsi.

I can also tell a difference. To me, Coke seems to have a thicker syrup-y taste, whereas Pepsi is smoother and more watered-down (blander, IMO).
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Brandon on May 18, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 18, 2017, 02:30:50 AM
Somehow, that stat map shown looks a bit spurious.  The drastic differences across state lines shouldn't happen in any sort of scenario, particularly with adjoining counties.

Oh, but it does.  One can really tell the difference between Michigan's UP (pop territory) and the adjoining eastern half of Wisconsin (soda territory) to the south.  Pop is very decidedly a Michigander thing.  You go to the party store to return your pop cans and bottles and maybe pick up some more Vernors or Red Pop.  Happens in Michigan, and Cheeseheads don't do it, therefore, don't get it.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: sparker on May 18, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on May 18, 2017, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: intelati49 on May 18, 2017, 10:12:57 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 18, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 18, 2017, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 17, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 17, 2017, 10:41:06 PM
Do people down south seriously call pepsi coke?

From what I hear, yes.

Around where we call Pepsi "nasty shit".
Pepsi and coke taste the same.

I can tell the difference, but I can't qualify the difference. There's just something "off" about Pepsi.

I can also tell a difference. To me, Coke seems to have a thicker syrup-y taste, whereas Pepsi is smoother and more watered-down (blander, IMO).

It's the "secondary" flavors, other than the basic cola-nut extract, that determine the exact taste of the cola drink.  For instance, as per the corporate name, the secondary flavoring ingredient of Coca-Cola was coca leaf extract -- currently what's left over after medical cocaine hydrochloride is separated out from the leaf substance, but before the late '30's actually contained more than a trace amount of actual cocaine.  The secondary ingredient in Pepsi-Cola also forms the reference to the name: the "honey" from the pepsin wasp (yeah, wasps, being kissing cousins to bees, produce a form of honey themselves), which is bittersweet in nature, is the secondary ingredient; it's the trace bitterness that's somewhat off-putting to some consumers.  From what I understand, the old 3rd standby, RC Cola, used vanillin (synthesized vanilla) as their secondary flavoring.  There's enough of a difference between the flavor profiles to cover the tastes of the overall market -- which is why the brands persist.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Duke87 on May 19, 2017, 12:07:41 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 17, 2017, 07:25:24 PM
Thats funny, because we call all of those either "light poles" or "power poles" (both denoting the assumption that all of the lines strung across them are power lines). So, when the power company turns off your power because you haven't paid the bill they came and "cut your lights off".

I grew up calling them "telephone poles" although my career of choice as an adult has gotten me in the habit of using the more correct technical term, "utility poles".
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: inkyatari on May 19, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Quote from: Brandon on May 18, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
  You go to the party store to return your pop cans and bottles and maybe pick up some more Vernors or Red Pop. 


Mmmm  Vernors.  Haven't had that awesome stuff in forever.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 19, 2017, 10:04:23 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 19, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Quote from: Brandon on May 18, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
  You go to the party store to return your pop cans and bottles and maybe pick up some more Vernors or Red Pop. 


Mmmm  Vernors.  Haven't had that awesome stuff in forever.

I have never heard the term "Party Store".  To me, a Party Store is a store like Party City where you can buy hats, costumes, candles, and decorations.  Then again, most people haven't heard a term for a place where you buy beer and liquor as a "Package Store"
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Rothman on May 19, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
Has anyone mentioned Nehi grape soda?  Lived on that stuff when I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Brandon on May 19, 2017, 11:29:53 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 19, 2017, 10:04:23 AM
Quote from: inkyatari on May 19, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Quote from: Brandon on May 18, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
  You go to the party store to return your pop cans and bottles and maybe pick up some more Vernors or Red Pop. 


Mmmm  Vernors.  Haven't had that awesome stuff in forever.

I have never heard the term "Party Store".  To me, a Party Store is a store like Party City where you can buy hats, costumes, candles, and decorations.  Then again, most people haven't heard a term for a place where you buy beer and liquor as a "Package Store"

http://www.michigannative.com/ma_wordsphrases.shtml

Quote"Parrty Storre": US equivalent: liquor store. There's one on every other block. We like it that way, cuz ya never know when the urge fer a Moosehead'll hitcha. Or, ya know... could be Stroh's.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: hbelkins on May 19, 2017, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
Has anyone mentioned Nehi grape soda?  Lived on that stuff when I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.

Hard to find these days. Ale-8 is marketing something called NuGrape which is very similar.

Nehi orange was also very popular. I think Nehi was bottled and/or distributed by Royal Crown Cola, which was very popular in eastern Kentucky. I'm not sure where RC was bottled, but there were distributorships in Jackson and Whitesburg.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Big John on May 19, 2017, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
Has anyone mentioned Nehi grape soda?  Lived on that stuff when I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.
Radar O"Reilly? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: SSOWorld on May 19, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
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Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: jwolfer on May 19, 2017, 10:42:47 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 18, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Quote from: sparker on May 18, 2017, 02:30:50 AM
Somehow, that stat map shown looks a bit spurious.  The drastic differences across state lines shouldn't happen in any sort of scenario, particularly with adjoining counties.

Oh, but it does.  One can really tell the difference between Michigan's UP (pop territory) and the adjoining eastern half of Wisconsin (soda territory) to the south.  Pop is very decidedly a Michigander thing.  You go to the party store to return your pop cans and bottles and maybe pick up some more Vernors or Red Pop.  Happens in Michigan, and Cheeseheads don't do it, therefore, don't get it.
I find it interesting that the midwest and great lakes all use "pop" but around Milwaukee its soda

LGMS428

Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: Rothman on May 19, 2017, 11:07:28 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on May 19, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
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I actually think the characters are backwards there.  Cap is much more of a pop guy.
Title: Re: Soda vs. Pop
Post by: cjk374 on May 20, 2017, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 19, 2017, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
Has anyone mentioned Nehi grape soda?  Lived on that stuff when I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.

Hard to find these days. Ale-8 is marketing something called NuGrape which is very similar.

Nehi orange was also very popular. I think Nehi was bottled and/or distributed by Royal Crown Cola, which was very popular in eastern Kentucky. I'm not sure where RC was bottled, but there were distributorships in Jackson and Whitesburg.

We have an RC distributor in my area that keeps RC and several Nehi flavors in the coolers of many convenience stores. When I was a teen, a 16 oz bottle of RC or Nehi was 49 cents.

I miss the good ol' days.