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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2450 on: May 26, 2022, 08:20:44 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/58iXXShQqJSbSMni7
I of course expect that INDOT would sign US 421 on a supplemental, but give out no info on the overheads for Downtown Indy I wouldn’t expect. The I-65 and I-70 interchanges now have control cities at their junctions with I-74/465.  So why not include them here as well?

 :hmmm: are you saying mention downtown indy on the southeastern av sign?
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2451 on: May 26, 2022, 08:36:42 AM »

No, I would say use it for I-465 north as that goes to I-70 for more quicker trip.


I’m still up in the air about Binford Blvd being used on I-69 south at I-465, but unaware of the traffic situations of that part of Indy.  Here you’re close to I-70 that Southeast Avenue would be longer per say.
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2452 on: May 26, 2022, 08:39:30 AM »

No, I would say use it for I-465 north as that goes to I-70 for more quicker trip.


I’m still up in the air about Binford Blvd being used on I-69 south at I-465, but unaware of the traffic situations of that part of Indy.  Here you’re close to I-70 that Southeast Avenue would be longer per say.

Binford Blvd and Southeastern Ave are signed because that's where the road goes if you continue on. It's not suggesting those roads as routes to downtown. Same with Crawfordsville Rd on the west side.
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2453 on: May 26, 2022, 08:41:30 AM »

No, I would say use it for I-465 north as that goes to I-70 for more quicker trip.


I’m still up in the air about Binford Blvd being used on I-69 south at I-465, but unaware of the traffic situations of that part of Indy.  Here you’re close to I-70 that Southeast Avenue would be longer per say.

Binford Blvd and Southeastern Ave are signed because that's where the road goes if you continue on. It's not suggesting those roads as routes to downtown. Same with Crawfordsville Rd on the west side.

My 2008 photos show Indy as a control city on I-69 south for Binford when that used to be its southern terminus.
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2454 on: May 26, 2022, 08:41:45 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/58iXXShQqJSbSMni7
I of course expect that INDOT would sign US 421 on a supplemental, but give out no info on the overheads for Downtown Indy I wouldn’t expect. The I-65 and I-70 interchanges now have control cities at their junctions with I-74/465.  So why not include them here as well?


https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA
Hey they even here included US 52 east now on the guide with I-865 at of latest.



There is some inconsistency with how INDOT signs or doesn't sign control cities along I-465, but I don't know that anybody other than roadgeeks really cares.

i think this will be fixed though eventually. seems like the new signs are going by a different signing method. and we all know theyre going to have to replace all the signs on the south east and east sides of town so those may all follow the way they look on the south side. but who knows.
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2455 on: May 26, 2022, 08:44:46 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/Smbe8yagcjCBb4Nz8

Last year Binford was still signed for Indianapolis.  Yes when SR 37 upgrades are done these will have to go and include I-69 south where SR 37 is on this assembly and possibly include Evansville.
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2456 on: May 26, 2022, 12:15:33 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/Smbe8yagcjCBb4Nz8

Last year Binford was still signed for Indianapolis.  Yes when SR 37 upgrades are done these will have to go and include I-69 south where SR 37 is on this assembly and possibly include Evansville.

37 will be decommissioned in between the 69 splits. all the sign renderings they release omit 37 and the new martinsville section lacks 37
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Re: Indiana Notes
« Reply #2457 on: May 26, 2022, 01:12:02 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/58iXXShQqJSbSMni7
I of course expect that INDOT would sign US 421 on a supplemental, but give out no info on the overheads for Downtown Indy I wouldn’t expect. The I-65 and I-70 interchanges now have control cities at their junctions with I-74/465.  So why not include them here as well?


https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA
Hey they even here included US 52 east now on the guide with I-865 at of latest.

The northbound APL sign across the road includes 52 as well, which never used to be acknowledged on the road itself on any BGSs (but was on interchange BGSs on intersecting roads and was on shield assemblies).

The old button copy southbound signs for now-865 used to include 52 (465 EAST <BR> 52 EAST) but when 865 came along, INDOT actually found button copy letters to add TO so that they read 865 EAST <BR> TO <BR> 465 EAST, moving the 465 shield down and eliminating 52.  (The first generation of "new" signs copied what was on the button copy for messages; if you look at old enough street view you can see the button copy TO.  I have a pic of the assembly from 1997 without the TO and the old shields kicking around.)
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