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Started by mukade, October 25, 2012, 09:27:04 PM

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silverback1065

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:12:14 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58iXXShQqJSbSMni7
I of course expect that INDOT would sign US 421 on a supplemental, but give out no info on the overheads for Downtown Indy I wouldn't expect. The I-65 and I-70 interchanges now have control cities at their junctions with I-74/465.  So why not include them here as well?

:hmmm: are you saying mention downtown indy on the southeastern av sign?


roadman65

No, I would say use it for I-465 north as that goes to I-70 for more quicker trip.


I'm still up in the air about Binford Blvd being used on I-69 south at I-465, but unaware of the traffic situations of that part of Indy.  Here you're close to I-70 that Southeast Avenue would be longer per say.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:36:42 AM
No, I would say use it for I-465 north as that goes to I-70 for more quicker trip.


I'm still up in the air about Binford Blvd being used on I-69 south at I-465, but unaware of the traffic situations of that part of Indy.  Here you're close to I-70 that Southeast Avenue would be longer per say.

Binford Blvd and Southeastern Ave are signed because that's where the road goes if you continue on. It's not suggesting those roads as routes to downtown. Same with Crawfordsville Rd on the west side.
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roadman65

Quote from: cabiness42 on May 26, 2022, 08:39:30 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:36:42 AM
No, I would say use it for I-465 north as that goes to I-70 for more quicker trip.


I'm still up in the air about Binford Blvd being used on I-69 south at I-465, but unaware of the traffic situations of that part of Indy.  Here you're close to I-70 that Southeast Avenue would be longer per say.

Binford Blvd and Southeastern Ave are signed because that's where the road goes if you continue on. It's not suggesting those roads as routes to downtown. Same with Crawfordsville Rd on the west side.

My 2008 photos show Indy as a control city on I-69 south for Binford when that used to be its southern terminus.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

silverback1065

Quote from: cabiness42 on May 26, 2022, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:12:14 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58iXXShQqJSbSMni7
I of course expect that INDOT would sign US 421 on a supplemental, but give out no info on the overheads for Downtown Indy I wouldn't expect. The I-65 and I-70 interchanges now have control cities at their junctions with I-74/465.  So why not include them here as well?


https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA
Hey they even here included US 52 east now on the guide with I-865 at of latest.



There is some inconsistency with how INDOT signs or doesn't sign control cities along I-465, but I don't know that anybody other than roadgeeks really cares.

i think this will be fixed though eventually. seems like the new signs are going by a different signing method. and we all know theyre going to have to replace all the signs on the south east and east sides of town so those may all follow the way they look on the south side. but who knows.

roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/Smbe8yagcjCBb4Nz8

Last year Binford was still signed for Indianapolis.  Yes when SR 37 upgrades are done these will have to go and include I-69 south where SR 37 is on this assembly and possibly include Evansville.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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silverback1065

Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:44:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Smbe8yagcjCBb4Nz8

Last year Binford was still signed for Indianapolis.  Yes when SR 37 upgrades are done these will have to go and include I-69 south where SR 37 is on this assembly and possibly include Evansville.

37 will be decommissioned in between the 69 splits. all the sign renderings they release omit 37 and the new martinsville section lacks 37

PurdueBill

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Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:12:14 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58iXXShQqJSbSMni7
I of course expect that INDOT would sign US 421 on a supplemental, but give out no info on the overheads for Downtown Indy I wouldn't expect. The I-65 and I-70 interchanges now have control cities at their junctions with I-74/465.  So why not include them here as well?


https://goo.gl/maps/KcwKuBMeiYtL6PdDA
Hey they even here included US 52 east now on the guide with I-865 at of latest.

The northbound APL sign across the road includes 52 as well, which never used to be acknowledged on the road itself on any BGSs (but was on interchange BGSs on intersecting roads and was on shield assemblies).

The old button copy southbound signs for now-865 used to include 52 (465 EAST <BR> 52 EAST) but when 865 came along, INDOT actually found button copy letters to add TO so that they read 865 EAST <BR> TO <BR> 465 EAST, moving the 465 shield down and eliminating 52.  (The first generation of "new" signs copied what was on the button copy for messages; if you look at old enough street view you can see the button copy TO.  I have a pic of the assembly from 1997 without the TO and the old shields kicking around.)

silverback1065

SR 9 no longer goes through downtown Shelbyville. it now follows SR 44 East to I-74 rides 74 west to its old alignment. it is signed very well and on all of the BGS. but for some reason they made new 74 signs on 44 that show I-74 West SR 9 North, but forgot to add US 421 North to that sign. Looks like maybe Shelbyville requested this to take trucks out of their downtown? they are reconstructing that portion and removed the square.

74/171FAN

Quote from: silverback1065 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:48 PM
SR 9 no longer goes through downtown Shelbyville. it now follows SR 44 East to I-74 rides 74 west to its old alignment. it is signed very well and on all of the BGS. but for some reason they made new 74 signs on 44 that show I-74 West SR 9 North, but forgot to add US 421 North to that sign. Looks like maybe Shelbyville requested this to take trucks out of their downtown? they are reconstructing that portion and removed the square.

So IN 9 basically follows IN 9 TRUCK now?
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silverback1065

Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 14, 2022, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:48 PM
SR 9 no longer goes through downtown Shelbyville. it now follows SR 44 East to I-74 rides 74 west to its old alignment. it is signed very well and on all of the BGS. but for some reason they made new 74 signs on 44 that show I-74 West SR 9 North, but forgot to add US 421 North to that sign. Looks like maybe Shelbyville requested this to take trucks out of their downtown? they are reconstructing that portion and removed the square.

So IN 9 basically follows IN 9 TRUCK now?



Correct

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: silverback1065 on June 15, 2022, 08:37:19 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 14, 2022, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on June 14, 2022, 09:18:48 PM
SR 9 no longer goes through downtown Shelbyville. it now follows SR 44 East to I-74 rides 74 west to its old alignment. it is signed very well and on all of the BGS. but for some reason they made new 74 signs on 44 that show I-74 West SR 9 North, but forgot to add US 421 North to that sign. Looks like maybe Shelbyville requested this to take trucks out of their downtown? they are reconstructing that portion and removed the square.

So IN 9 basically follows IN 9 TRUCK now?



Correct

Just to clarify, coming from the north, does SR 9 follow I-74 for one exit or does it continue south to SR 44 and then go east to TRK 9?
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silverback1065

My description was for northbound. so if you were on NB SR 9 entering Shelbyville this is the route:

SR 9 joins SR 44 now and turns right at Broadway, they're both co-signed over to I-74. SR 9 joins I-74 West to the old SR 9 exit and SR 9 goes north on its old alignment from there. and the reverse for SB.

74/171FAN

Quote from: silverback1065 on June 15, 2022, 02:56:01 PM
My description was for northbound. so if you were on NB SR 9 entering Shelbyville this is the route:

SR 9 joins SR 44 now and turns right at Broadway, they're both co-signed over to I-74. SR 9 joins I-74 West to the old SR 9 exit and SR 9 goes north on its old alignment from there. and the reverse for SB.

Ok, I did not recognize earlier that IN 9 TRUCK had two sections.  So does the part of IN 9 TRUCK south of Broadway still exists as-is for now?
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Great Lakes Roads

https://wimsradio.com/2022/06/29/indot-to-lower-semi-speed-limit-on-indiana-49-in-chesterton-create-median-turnarounds-for-law-enforcement/

INDOT lowered the speed limit for trucks from 50 mph to 40 mph in Chesterton, and they will also be making three turnarounds in the median for the police department between the Toll Road and Porter Avenue.

nwi_navigator_1181

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on June 29, 2022, 09:18:43 PM
https://wimsradio.com/2022/06/29/indot-to-lower-semi-speed-limit-on-indiana-49-in-chesterton-create-median-turnarounds-for-law-enforcement/

INDOT lowered the speed limit for trucks from 50 mph to 40 mph in Chesterton, and they will also be making three turnarounds in the median for the police department between the Toll Road and Porter Avenue.

So will it be the 50/40 speed limit split, or is it a hard 40 for all traffic? Just curious.

There has been quite a rash of accidents on Indiana 49 between I-94 and the Toll Road (with a good chunk of them stemming from trucks coming in too hot on the loop ramps on the I-94 interchange). I hope this is the start of police cracking down on that area.
"Slower Traffic Keep Right" means just that.
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sprjus4

^ The truck speed limit will be reduced from 50 mph to 40 mph.

nwi_navigator_1181

Quote from: sprjus4 on July 01, 2022, 11:26:12 AM
^ The truck speed limit will be reduced from 50 mph to 40 mph.

So it will likely say "Speed Limit 50, Trucks 40."  Thank you for the clarification.
"Slower Traffic Keep Right" means just that.
You use turn signals. Every Time. Every Transition.

Great Lakes Roads

https://www.thestarpress.com/story/news/local/2022/07/11/indot-road-muncie-bypass-riggin-road-left-turns/7819300001/

INDOT is looking at removing left turns onto and off of Riggins Road on the Muncie Bypass (US 35/IN SR 67).

Here's where the proposed project is happening: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2357969,-85.3519061,16z

silverback1065

does this mean the whole bypass has only 1 signal left? all the rest are RIRO's?

tdindy88

Quote from: silverback1065 on July 13, 2022, 08:02:18 AM
does this mean the whole bypass has only 1 signal left? all the rest are RIRO's?

There would be two signals left. One at McGallard Road and one at Cowan Road on the south side. There's also a railroad crossing at-grade that does interupt the bypass traffic from time to time.

ibthebigd

Wasn't there talk of an interchange at McGallard Road at one time

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monty

For such a nice bypass, it's always been hard to swallow why the stoplight at McGallard and the busy NS RR at grade crossing?  Especially when other railways and less important roadways have overpasses and interchanges.
monty

Great Lakes Roads

INDOT has announced today that the SR 225 bridge (built in 1910) over the Wabash River near Battle Ground will remain closed until a bridge rehabilitation project starts in July 2024, which is two years away.

silverback1065

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 15, 2022, 10:09:13 PM
INDOT has announced today that the SR 225 bridge (built in 1910) over the Wabash River near Battle Ground will remain closed until a bridge rehabilitation project starts in July 2024, which is two years away.

wait what? why is it closed?



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