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Title: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: hbelkins on July 19, 2021, 11:03:58 AM
Just as the title says -- bands that made major changes to their sound or style. Seems to me in the cases of bands I like(d), that drastic change came in the form of adding keyboards.

Rush, most definitely. Possibly the most obvious example. Look at the progression from "A Farewell to Kings" to "Power Windows" and "Hold Your Fire."

Iron Maiden added keys somewhere around "Seventh Son..."

Judas Priest. I hated the "Turbo" album.

ZZ Top -- the lat 80's stuff ("Afterburner" and "Eliminator" was heavy on synths.)

Triumph's latter albums in the 80s were thick on the keys.

Van Halen, from a few experimental things on "Fair Warning" and "Diver Down" to most of "1984."

Queen famously had a "no synthesizers" notation on their liner notes up until "The Game," in which they acknowledged using a synth for the first time. Their stuff after that was laden with synths.

Then there's Chicago. The band was already changing direction (noticeable between their fifth and sixth albums) but after Terry Kath's death, the change to Warner/Full Moon from Columbia, David Foster as producer, bringing in a lot of outside writers, and the addition of Bill Champlin all added up. People who only knew the band from "Hard To Say I'm Sorry" or "Look Away" or even "If You Leave Me Now" had no idea the same band cut "Poem 58" or "Sing A Mean Tune Kid," much less "25 or 6 to 4."
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Takumi on July 19, 2021, 11:13:50 AM
There's a Midwest indie rock band called Now, Now. Their first album was guitar-heavy, while their second one was synthpop.

https://youtu.be/P-6qmylGskc

https://youtu.be/KEJRFGyqsmY

(I'm sure someone was expecting me to say the Smashing Pumpkins, but Billy Corgan has always been an enigma. There were several Adore-like songs on previous albums, but they were just contrasted with the heavier songs.)
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: TheStranger on July 19, 2021, 11:57:34 AM
The Doobie Brothers were noticeably rootsier in sound before Michael McDonald essentially replaced Tom Johnston as the lead vocalist.

The Who pre-Tommy was more in the vein of a genre Pete Townshend himself named, "power pop" - with a sound somewhere between garage rock and standard (if supercharged) British Invasion fare.  Though there were signs of this in earlier songs (Tattoo), from Tommy up to the end of the Keith Moon era was much more focused on a combination of album-length rock opera plots, more layered production, and more serious lyrics.  (It helped that Roger Daltrey's voice went from boyish to a little more grown up in the late 1960s)

Fleetwood Mac started out as a blues group, slowly evolved into more of a pop-rock outfit when Bob Welch joined the group, then of course is most known for the highly arranged, lyrically confessional Buckingham/Nicks era.

The Isley Brothers went from a vocal-oriented group in their first decade, to an innovative funk/rock band starting around 1968-1969 and continuing to 1983.

Steely Dan from 1972-1974 had a grittier rock-oriented sound when they were more of a performing group (i.e. My Old School, Do it Again, Bodhisattva) in the time that Jeff Baxter/Jim Hodder/Denny Dias were all regular members, then became focused on studio-perfect jazz/rock songs from 1975-1980, most exemplified by the Aja album.  (Baxter himself was part of when the Doobie Brothers' shifted into smoother jazz-influenced music once Michael McDonald joined that group - McDonald had been a Steely Dan backup vocalist)

David Bowie's entire career, pardon the pun, was one of drastic...changes.  Kinda wild to think that his projects introduced people as varied as Luther Vandross, David Sanborn, and Stevie Ray Vaughan to public consciousness. 

Mandy Moore started out doing bubblegum pop but after a covers album in the mid-2000s, has mostly recorded 70s-influenced adult contemporary/singer-songwriter music.

The Korean pop group Wonder Girls started out doing ultra-modern synthesized dance pop music during their peak era, then radically reinvented themselves as an actual band (with instruments) with a more nihilistic lyrical approach for their final two albums.  Korean soloist Park Ji Yoon went from happy pop music in the late 90s, to adult-oriented pop/R&B ca. 2000-2003, to an increasingly spare singer-songwriter vibe with chamber music tendencies from 2009-present.

Miles Davis, the jazz great, had roots in cool jazz but eventually went into hard bop and then jazz fusion (culminating in albums like In A Silent Way and Bitches' Brew).  When he returned from his late-70s retirement, he tried to stay contemporary with 1980s music trends, while still in the jazz idiom.


Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 19, 2021, 12:08:10 PM
Genesis. Their early days were as a progressive rock band in the vein of Yes or King Crimson. After Peter Gabriel and subsequently Steve Hackett moved on, they began to drift in a poppier direction as a three-piece led by Phil Collins, and then when Collins cashed in on his solo career doing straight pop, it led Genesis to follow with him. Actually, this indirectly led to Peter Cetera quitting Chicago as he wanted a similar arrangement as Collins where he had a solo career in addition to the band's new pop stardom, but the band wasn't willing to allow this, so he left for his solo career. 

Yes. Following Jon Anderson and Rick Waksman departing after their awful Tormato album, they were replaced with Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn of the Buggles. They did one album and then dissolved due to lackluster reviews. The story begins a couple years later when Chris Squire and Alan White teamed up with Trevor Rabin. They brought in another former Yes member, original keyboardist Tony Kaye. They recorded some songs as a new band called Cinema, but Rabin decided he didn't want to be both lead vocalist and guitarist. That led to Jon Anderson rejoining, and Owner of a Lonely Heart was born. By their next album, Anderson and Rabin had clashed as Anderson wanted to revert to more "traditional"  Yes while Rabin wanted to keep the 90125 mojo going.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: triplemultiplex on July 20, 2021, 04:32:53 PM
The Beastie Boys started as a punk rock group before they got into hip-hop.  Tho that was before they cut any records.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kphoger on July 20, 2021, 04:49:00 PM
REM has made it a point to constantly change "their sound".
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Takumi on July 20, 2021, 06:20:39 PM
Quote from: triplemultiplex on July 20, 2021, 04:32:53 PM
The Beastie Boys started as a punk rock group before they got into hip-hop.  Tho that was before they cut any records.
They eventually released some of their old punk material and I think they made the occasional song after they hit it big.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: KeithE4Phx on July 20, 2021, 06:23:58 PM
The Beatles evolved from a bar band with a recording contract and a few original songs amongst the covers to developing music of many different genres.  This, of course, was as Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison evolved as songwriters.

The Rolling Stones failed twice when they tried to change their sound.  They tried psychedellia in 1967-68 and the results were so-so.  Ex-Byrd Gram Parsons muscled his way into Keith Richards' life (and drug habit), and as a result they tried some country rock in the early '70s, notably on Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street.  It sounded pretty bad, and even Mick Jagger put the efforts down.  But their best work was always doing blues-based rock & roll, and that's what they'll always be known for.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kevinb1994 on July 20, 2021, 07:33:59 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on July 20, 2021, 06:23:58 PM
The Beatles evolved from a bar band with a recording contract and a few original songs amongst the covers to developing music of many different genres.  This, of course, was as Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison evolved as songwriters.

The Rolling Stones failed twice when they tried to change their sound.  They tried psychedellia in 1967-68 and the results were so-so.  Ex-Byrd Gram Parsons muscled his way into Keith Richards' life (and drug habit), and as a result they tried some country rock in the early '70s, notably on Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street.  It sounded pretty bad, and even Mick Jagger put the efforts down.  But their best work was always doing blues-based rock & roll, and that's what they'll always be known for.
I dig the effort, especially for the early-70s sound they had going.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Mapmikey on July 20, 2021, 07:35:28 PM
Kool and the Gang started out doing instrumental jazz but noticed pop soul paid the bills. Then after JT became their singer they turned into the smooth sound they had throughout the 80s

Pointer Sisters started out doing Bebop before moving to more contemporary sounds.

Bee Gees definitely changed their style to ride the disco wave then changed again when disco crashed and burned.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on July 20, 2021, 07:41:58 PM
ministry started out as techno... and ended up.. like, angry.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: index on July 20, 2021, 07:43:30 PM
It doesn't totally fit the bill and it isn't something that people don't know, but, bringing it up just for the thread. After Ian Curtis at Joy Division died, the remaining members of the band put it all into New Order and their music took on a markedly different tone, especially with their most popular works.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Takumi on July 20, 2021, 08:31:02 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on July 20, 2021, 07:41:58 PM
ministry started out as techno... and ended up.. like, angry.
I wouldn't call old Ministry techno. (Mostly because using "techno"  as a blanket term for all electronic music is a common mistake in the US, but also because they were more synth pop than anything else.)
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kurumi on July 20, 2021, 08:49:45 PM
Ambrosia changed from prog (Life Beyond LA) to love ballads (You're the biggest part of me)
Heart changed from 1970s guitar-oriented rock (Barracuda) to 1980s arena pop (What about Love, 1986)
Yes changed from 1970s prog to 1980s pop (Love will Find a Way, 1987)
Genesis changed from 1970s prog to 1980s pop (We can't Dance, ~1985)
Rush, ditto (Power Windows, 1985. Keyboards had really moved in starting with Signals, but Power Windows was the one I regret buying)
The Tubes changed from 1970s art prog/punk (Mondo Bondage) to 1980s more straightforward rock (Talk to you later)
Jefferson Airplane (legit 60s rock) to Jefferson Starship (1970s art-rock) to Starship (2 songs that make many "worst ever" lists)
Sinead O'Connor, from Lion and the Cobra (excellent) to "Nothing compares 2 U" (oh well)

The Beatles really bucked the trend IMO as they moved on from early commercial success and got more adventurous. Most bands seem to go the other way.

AC/DC on the other hand found something that worked and didn't mess with it. That's why, back when I was listening to rock on the radio, you'd hear an AC/DC song about once an hour.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: andrepoiy on July 20, 2021, 09:12:00 PM
KISS adopted a glam-metal sound in the 80s when Glam was hot.

I believe some Glam metal bands changed their sound when Grunge started to become popular, but obviously, those albums didn't sell that well. I believe Poison is an example.

Bon Jovi went pop rock, especially with "It's My Life"

Aerosmith gradually went a bit more poppy too when they hired Desmond Child to write their hit songs.


Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Takumi on July 20, 2021, 09:51:49 PM
Quote from: index on July 20, 2021, 07:43:30 PM
It doesn't totally fit the bill and it isn't something that people don't know, but, bringing it up just for the thread. After Ian Curtis at Joy Division died, the remaining members of the band put it all into New Order and their music took on a markedly different tone, especially with their most popular works.
Eh...later Joy Division and early New Order were pretty similar stylistically, so there's an overlap, but around 1983 they definitely went more pop-oriented than they likely would have as Joy Division. That said, it definitely paid off as they're one of the most influential groups of all time.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: thspfc on July 20, 2021, 09:56:29 PM
Taylor Swift
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: hbelkins on July 20, 2021, 10:19:19 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on July 20, 2021, 07:33:59 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on July 20, 2021, 06:23:58 PM
The Beatles evolved from a bar band with a recording contract and a few original songs amongst the covers to developing music of many different genres.  This, of course, was as Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison evolved as songwriters.

The Rolling Stones failed twice when they tried to change their sound.  They tried psychedellia in 1967-68 and the results were so-so.  Ex-Byrd Gram Parsons muscled his way into Keith Richards' life (and drug habit), and as a result they tried some country rock in the early '70s, notably on Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street.  It sounded pretty bad, and even Mick Jagger put the efforts down.  But their best work was always doing blues-based rock & roll, and that's what they'll always be known for.
I dig the effort, especially for the early-70s sound they had going.

Oddly enough, those are two of my favorite Stones albums.

Quote from: andrepoiy on July 20, 2021, 09:12:00 PM
KISS adopted a glam-metal sound in the 80s when Glam was hot.

I believe some Glam metal bands changed their sound when Grunge started to become popular, but obviously, those albums didn't sell that well. I believe Poison is an example.

Bon Jovi went pop rock, especially with "It's My Life"

Aerosmith gradually went a bit more poppy too when they hired Desmond Child to write their hit songs.




Kiss actually had a grunge album ("Carnival of Souls") recorded with that lineup (Stanley/Simmons/Kulick/Singer) and ready to go before the MTV Unplugged reunion led to "Psycho Circus" and that tour.

Aerosmith was never quite the same after that brief period that Joe Perry and Brad Whitford left and then came back. I never really cared for "Done With Mirrors," "Permament Vacation" was a bit too poppy for me, but "Pump" was OK. I haven't really been able to tolerate much of their studio stuff after that.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Concrete Bob on July 20, 2021, 10:41:23 PM
North Carolina's own Corrosion of Conformity started as a hard-leaning Punk band in the late 1980s/early 1990s,and evolved into a very heavy metal based band, with underlying Southern Rock influences by the early 2000s. 

English band Sweet began as a pop band in the late 1960s/early 1970s and evolved into a straight up hard rock band by the mid 1970s. Some of tracks leaned Metal, others bent into Progressive territory (e.g. "Love is Like Oxygen.")

Journey started out as a Progressive/Jazz/Metal band in the guise of a cross between Led Zeppelin and Mahavishnu Orchestra for their first three releases and evolved into a Pop-Rock-Ballad-Guitar band after their fifth release in the late 1970s.  Commercially, it was a success.  Their commercial album tracks were "burnt to a crisp" by our local AOR station(s) in the early-mid 1980s.  Wasn't my cup of tea, but that doesn't matter.

After leaving Genesis, Peter Gabriel put out four solid Art Rock albums that infused a whole lot of sub-genres between 1977 and 1982.  His subsequent releases relied on Pop, Techno an Worldbeat. I bought Gabriel's 1986"So", but nothing since. 

Most of the comments in this thread are pretty spot on.  I have every Chicago release through VII and every Fleetwood Mac Release through Rumours.  Each of those bands had drifted into the Pop realm, they had lost their appeal to their original support base.  Even though each of those bands engrained a whole new new group of followers and wound up with more commercial success, their earliest releases are the ones who sparked my interests in their bands initially. 




Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 21, 2021, 12:23:12 AM
The Stones dabbled in some funk and disco with stuff like "Miss You". For that matter, the Dead too with "Shakedown Street".
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: KeithE4Phx on July 21, 2021, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 21, 2021, 12:23:12 AM
The Stones dabbled in some funk and disco with stuff like "Miss You".

Miss You was one of their worst songs.  IMHO, of course.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kevinb1994 on July 21, 2021, 12:53:32 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on July 21, 2021, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 21, 2021, 12:23:12 AM
The Stones dabbled in some funk and disco with stuff like "Miss You".

Miss You was one of their worst songs.  IMHO, of course.
Aw, come on...they tried.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Rothman on July 21, 2021, 06:43:24 AM
I'd go with "Emotional Rescue" as their worst popular song.  I don't know how they got through those lyrics and nonsense without breaking up laughing.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: hbelkins on July 21, 2021, 11:09:26 AM
Quote from: Concrete Bob on July 20, 2021, 10:41:23 PM
Most of the comments in this thread are pretty spot on.  I have every Chicago release through VII and every Fleetwood Mac Release through Rumours.  Each of those bands had drifted into the Pop realm, they had lost their appeal to their original support base.  Even though each of those bands engrained a whole new new group of followers and wound up with more commercial success, their earliest releases are the ones who sparked my interests in their bands initially.

Chicago VII is an absolutely great album, especially sides 1 and 2. They were wanting to do a jazzier-type album, but had found some success with a different style of song in "Just You 'n' Me" so they needed to do other tunes like that. So they went back to the double-album concept. Kath's solo on "Aire" is good, but the live versions of that song I've heard are absolutely killer. And he shredded the outro solo in "I've Been Searching So Long," which is as much of a stereotypical ballad as anything that came later.

Chicago VIII was actually a really good album with a variety of styles but no really big hits. The really radical Kath-era change came with X, which was very poppish.

XI had promise, but it sounded like a collection of solo tunes rather than a group outing.

The only Foster-era album I can tolerate is 16. I can't even get through the others without finding something else to listen to. The remake of "25 or 6 to 4" was awful.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Rushmeister on July 22, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
Def Leppard?  Umm, no. 

It's like they keep recording the same song over and over, but giving it a new name each time.  I love it (their song, that is).
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: hbelkins on July 22, 2021, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: Rushmeister on July 22, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
Def Leppard?  Umm, no. 

It's like they keep recording the same song over and over, but giving it a new name each time.  I love it (their song, that is).

Their first three albums were great. I bought the first one sound unheard (that's a play on "sight unseen") based on their reputation as one of the leaders of NWOBHM (New wave of British heavy metal). "Hysteria" was a huge hit, but I didn't really care for it, and lost interest in them.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: andrepoiy on July 22, 2021, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Rushmeister on July 22, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
Def Leppard?  Umm, no. 

It's like they keep recording the same song over and over, but giving it a new name each time.  I love it (their song, that is).

Could say the same about AC/DC hahahahaha
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: triplemultiplex on July 22, 2021, 05:49:45 PM
The subject of this thread is the story behind "Play that Funky Music" by Wild Cherry.

"Hey white boy, when you gonna play some funky music?" :-D
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: amroad17 on July 28, 2021, 12:16:13 AM
Exile changed from a soft rock/adult contemporary sound in the 1970's to a country sound in the early to mid 1980's.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: roadman65 on August 19, 2021, 03:10:01 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on July 21, 2021, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 21, 2021, 12:23:12 AM
The Stones dabbled in some funk and disco with stuff like "Miss You".

Miss You was one of their worst songs.  IMHO, of course.

Then Undercover of the Night did a new sound close to Funk.

Bruce Springsteen’s Dancin In The Dark changed his sound from the traditional E Street Sound to more disco ish.  Springsteen even ditched his guitar as in the later music videos (Especially Dancin in the Dark) as   you seen him on stage holding a Mike but no jammin his guitars.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: jp the roadgeek on August 21, 2021, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on July 22, 2021, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Rushmeister on July 22, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
Def Leppard?  Umm, no. 

It's like they keep recording the same song over and over, but giving it a new name each time.  I love it (their song, that is).

Could say the same about AC/DC hahahahaha

As well as The Ramones and The Spin Doctors
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Takumi on August 21, 2021, 11:53:37 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on August 21, 2021, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on July 22, 2021, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Rushmeister on July 22, 2021, 01:21:01 PM
Def Leppard?  Umm, no. 

It's like they keep recording the same song over and over, but giving it a new name each time.  I love it (their song, that is).

Could say the same about AC/DC hahahahaha

As well as The Ramones and The Spin Doctors

You mean the Spin Doctors had more than two songs?
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: 1995hoo on August 22, 2021, 08:33:53 AM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on July 20, 2021, 06:23:58 PM
The Beatles evolved from a bar band with a recording contract and a few original songs amongst the covers to developing music of many different genres.  This, of course, was as Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison evolved as songwriters.

The Rolling Stones failed twice when they tried to change their sound.  They tried psychedellia in 1967-68 and the results were so-so.  Ex-Byrd Gram Parsons muscled his way into Keith Richards' life (and drug habit), and as a result they tried some country rock in the early '70s, notably on Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street.  It sounded pretty bad, and even Mick Jagger put the efforts down.  But their best work was always doing blues-based rock & roll, and that's what they'll always be known for.

I'm the weirdo who rather enjoys Their Satanic Majesties Request.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 22, 2021, 10:06:19 AM
Sugar Ray used to be a hardcore punk band.  Then "Fly" was popular so they changed their sound completely with songs like "Every Morning".  Interestingly, they were the band that one of the kids followed in the Billy Crystal and Robin Williams movie "Fathers' Day".

Chris
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: roadman65 on August 22, 2021, 10:42:52 AM
The Eagles changed their sound when Joe Walsh entered the band.

Clapton did twice. Once in the eighties and then again in the nineties. However he went back both times to his roots including two great Blues albums: From The Cradle and Me and Mr. Johnson.

In 1997 though EC experimented with Funk and R & B with Pilgrim as his last album of his  nineties detour.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Mr_Northside on August 23, 2021, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 22, 2021, 08:33:53 AM
I'm the weirdo who rather enjoys Their Satanic Majesties Request.

I'd say I really enjoy a handful of the tracks on it.   And "She's a Rainbow" is legit one of my favorite Stones songs in general.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: roadman65 on August 25, 2021, 10:28:22 PM
Simon and Garfunkel did in the end. Their top songs were Easy Listening  and charted there and also played on Elevator Music Stations over Rock Stations.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: KeithE4Phx on August 25, 2021, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 25, 2021, 10:28:22 PM
Simon and Garfunkel did in the end. Their top songs were Easy Listening  and charted there and also played on Elevator Music Stations over Rock Stations.

That was more of a change in radio formats than Simon & Garfunkel's music.  By the time S&G split in 1971, it was the beginning of the end for Ancient Modulation rock stations, and commercial FM rockers were more into heavier and more "progressive" (jazz/classical-based) rock than what S&G were playing.  This was before FM Top 40 became more popular in the mid '70s, of course. 

From what I remember, college stations were more into the singer-songwriter/acoustic/folk-rock music that was more like S&G's style than commercial rock.  The proper name for that style was "Stuck in the '60s."  :)
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: roadman65 on August 25, 2021, 11:04:44 PM
Oh right. Bridge Over Troubled Water and the El Condor song on rock radio?  They were more mellow than later Chicago was.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: KeithE4Phx on August 25, 2021, 11:51:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 25, 2021, 11:04:44 PM
Oh right. Bridge Over Troubled Water and the El Condor song on rock radio?  They were more mellow than later Chicago was.

Both songs got a lot of airplay on FM rockers in 1970.  But El Condor Pasa didn't stand the test of time, once the "free form" FM rockers bit the dust by 1975.  Bridge Over Troubled Water did, but only because it was a huge hit, not just an album track.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Ned Weasel on August 26, 2021, 06:21:16 AM
I don't think anyone in this thread has mentioned Beck yet.  His early music is way different from his more recent music.  Frankly, I prefer the humor in his earlier music and find it to be more interesting in general, but YMMV.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: achilles765 on August 26, 2021, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 19, 2021, 03:10:01 PM
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on July 21, 2021, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 21, 2021, 12:23:12 AM
The Stones dabbled in some funk and disco with stuff like "Miss You".

Miss You was one of their worst songs.  IMHO, of course.

Then Undercover of the Night did a new sound close to Funk.

Bruce Springsteen's Dancin In The Dark changed his sound from the traditional E Street Sound to more disco ish.  Springsteen even ditched his guitar as in the later music videos (Especially Dancin in the Dark) as   you seen him on stage holding a Mike but no jammin his guitars.

I would argue that "Nebraska" was the bigger change from his usual sound
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: achilles765 on August 26, 2021, 07:53:16 PM
I have to just throw out there that before any of these other artists changed and reinvented their sounds and images and all... there was one man who did it first and has consistently changed things up every few years (usually every three albums):
I am referring to my absolute favorite artist in any medium--the man whose music has had the biggest impact on my life..someone so transcendent he has a Nobel prize for literature:  yes. Bob Dylan
First there was the folk singer Dylan from 1961 with his self titled debut and running through 1964 with Another Side of... then he famously went electric and pissed off a lot of people.  He made three "electric frenetic" albums with some of the most impressive lyrics in rock history..,.then had a motorcycle crash and recorded a bunch of random crap with his friends in a big pink house... followed by 3 albums that were a celebration of family life... or straight up country music.  Then he took some time off before coming back with a dark tinged album with The Band, then an emotional therapy session about his crumbling marriage.  The next year he donned face paint and gathered a traveling minstrel show and hired a violist off the street and wrote songs with a playwright.. lots of travelogues and two songs about killers... he took a year off, then returned with saxophones and backing singers.  Then he shocked people even more than when he went electric when he became a hardcore evangelical christian...with his Gospel trilogy.  But that wouldn't last long either-- 1983 saw him record with Mark Knopfler's very distinctive guitar playing and a reggae rhythm session... and a lot of songs that leaned heavily into his native Judaism.  Then he tried disco-fish... then had some real clunkers... and then Oh Mercy... but then Under The Red Sky.  Then he just put out folk song covers and disappeared until 1997 when he came out with the incredibly dark and moody Time Out Of Mind... the 2000s saw him lean heavily into blues and some old folk influences. He released a very odd Christmas album. then  2012 saw the release of one of my favorites: the dark and violent Tempest... which was followed by three albums of Sinatra covers and old standards...including a fracking triple album... and last year the surprise "Rough and rowdy ways" which included the 17 minute "Murder Most Foul"
The man is 80 and doesn't seem to be interested in stopping either.  Love him or hate his voice or find him pretentious...but one does have to give him credit for always evolving and changing--and doing whatever the hell he felt like at the time... even if it was a huge disaster like Self Portrait.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 26, 2021, 08:00:06 PM
Quote from: Ned Weasel on August 26, 2021, 06:21:16 AM
I don't think anyone in this thread has mentioned Beck yet.  His early music is way different from his more recent music.  Frankly, I prefer the humor in his earlier music and find it to be more interesting in general, but YMMV.

Beck is on my list for most underrated musicians ever.  I liked Odelay just fine but my favorite album is Midnite Vultures.

Chris
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Ned Weasel on August 26, 2021, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on August 26, 2021, 08:00:06 PM
Beck is on my list for most underrated musicians ever.  I liked Odelay just fine but my favorite album is Midnite Vultures.

Chris

I'm torn between Mellow Gold and Mutations for my favorite Beck album.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Flint1979 on August 26, 2021, 08:12:17 PM
When I think of something like this I think of The Beatles going from Love Me Do to Tomorrow Never Knows.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kphoger on August 27, 2021, 11:37:02 AM
Quote from: Ned Weasel on August 26, 2021, 06:21:16 AM
I don't think anyone in this thread has mentioned Beck yet.  His early music is way different from his more recent music.  Frankly, I prefer the humor in his earlier music and find it to be more interesting in general, but YMMV.

Odelay is the only album I'm familiar with.  (I'm also listening to it right now.)
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kphoger on August 27, 2021, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: achilles765 on August 26, 2021, 07:53:16 PM
Bob Dylan

Then he shocked people even more than when he went electric ...

Yeah, that seriously put some of his fans off.  Kind of like when the Eagles went a little bit country.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Life in Paradise on August 27, 2021, 12:49:19 PM
I'll bring in Queen.  Not for their singing, their harmony and Freddie Mercury's voice never changed, but their instrumentation.  Their earlier 70s music was all guitar with no synth (and they were proud of it).  Then the 80s came and they changed with it (example Radio GaGa).
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: hbelkins on August 27, 2021, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Life in Paradise on August 27, 2021, 12:49:19 PM
I'll bring in Queen.  Not for their singing, their harmony and Freddie Mercury's voice never changed, but their instrumentation.  Their earlier 70s music was all guitar with no synth (and they were proud of it).  Then the 80s came and they changed with it (example Radio GaGa).

Their albums used to always note "no synthesizers." Then, when they finally used one, it was noted. Can't remember the exact verbiage, or which album, but it may have been "The Game" and it said something like, "For the first time, a synthesizer was used in the making of this album."
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: roadman65 on August 27, 2021, 11:01:23 PM
Steve Winwood with Back In The High Life was a change from his past music genre.  Though it got on the charts with Higher Love and Freedom Overspill, different from his previous albums.

Then Roll With It copied his Back In The High Life as well.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: kurumi on August 28, 2021, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 27, 2021, 11:01:23 PM
Steve Winwood with Back In The High Life was a change from his past music genre.  Though it got on the charts with Higher Love and Freedom Overspill, different from his previous albums.

Then Roll With It copied his Back In The High Life as well.

Higher Love had all of the mid to late 1980s in one song: DX-7 keyboard, gospel singers, gated drums, synth brass. Only thing it was missing is a saxophone solo.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: Rothman on August 28, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
Kenny Rogers went from San Francisco psychedlic rock to country.  A shrewd musician, indeed.

A lot of his fans turn a blind eye to where he really came from.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: achilles765 on August 29, 2021, 12:24:49 AM
Quote from: kphoger on August 27, 2021, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: achilles765 on August 26, 2021, 07:53:16 PM
Bob Dylan

Then he shocked people even more than when he went electric ...

Yeah, that seriously put some of his fans off.  Kind of like when the Eagles went a little
bit country.

It sure did. But not nearly as badly as when he went gospel. That pissed people off big time
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: tchafe1978 on August 29, 2021, 10:43:48 AM
Metallica on their St. Anger album, tried to go nu-metal and in turn angered a lot of fans. The style of songs, with no guitar solos, and garbage can-sounding snare drum, and guitar tone were a total departure from anything they did before or since, even more so than Load and Re-Load. It wasn't my favorite album either, but after giving it more listens years later, the songs and the lyrical content aren't all that bad, once you get past those negatives. Hey, every band has to go out on a limb once to experiment and keep from getting stale.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: renegade on August 29, 2021, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on August 29, 2021, 10:43:48 AM
Metallica on their St. Anger album, tried to go nu-metal and in turn angered a lot of fans. The style of songs, with no guitar solos, and garbage can-sounding snare drum, and guitar tone were a total departure from anything they did before or since, even more so than Load and Re-Load. It wasn't my favorite album either, but after giving it more listens years later, the songs and the lyrical content aren't all that bad, once you get past those negatives. Hey, every band has to go out on a limb once to experiment and keep from getting stale.
I use my copy of St Anger as a beer coaster.
Title: Re: Bands that radically changed their sound/style
Post by: hbelkins on August 29, 2021, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: renegade on August 29, 2021, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on August 29, 2021, 10:43:48 AM
Metallica on their St. Anger album, tried to go nu-metal and in turn angered a lot of fans. The style of songs, with no guitar solos, and garbage can-sounding snare drum, and guitar tone were a total departure from anything they did before or since, even more so than Load and Re-Load. It wasn't my favorite album either, but after giving it more listens years later, the songs and the lyrical content aren't all that bad, once you get past those negatives. Hey, every band has to go out on a limb once to experiment and keep from getting stale.
I use my copy of St Anger as a beer coaster.

I liked St. Anger a whole lot better than either Load or Reload, and to be honest, probably more than the black album.