Most terrible speed limits.

[Roadgeekteen]

This is just mean: https://www.facebook.com/spearfishpd/posts/721018901425755

As a lifelong Spearfish resident, nobody goes 25 on this stretch.

The people making excuses for the existence of it is so sad and tired.

Someone used an excuse that there is a lot of children around.

[20160805]

This is just mean: https://www.facebook.com/spearfishpd/posts/721018901425755

As a lifelong Spearfish resident, nobody goes 25 on this stretch.

How fast do they go?

Google was going 32: https://goo.gl/gnmvnk

On that note, I caught Google speeding in Menasha, WI: 27 in a 25 in a residential zone

[jeffandnicole]

This is just mean: https://www.facebook.com/spearfishpd/posts/721018901425755

As a lifelong Spearfish resident, nobody goes 25 on this stretch.

The people making excuses for the existence of it is so sad and tired.

Someone used an excuse that there is a lot of children around.

At least they mostly gave warnings.

[Roadgeekteen]

This is just mean: https://www.facebook.com/spearfishpd/posts/721018901425755

As a lifelong Spearfish resident, nobody goes 25 on this stretch.

Police never pull you over for going 1 over the speed limit.

How fast do they go?

Google was going 32: https://goo.gl/gnmvnk

On that note, I caught Google speeding in Menasha, WI: 27 in a 25 in a residential zone

[lordsutch]

I-55 south of Memphis wound up with decreasing speed limits to the Mississippi border, getting as low as 45 MPH.  Once into the Magnolia State the freeway was up to 70 MPH.  Tennessee's highway patrol units were along this stretch, thick as fleas.  This was back in 1996.  Whether it is still the same today is something I do not know.  Maybe someone here can let us know if the Mother Of All Speedtraps is still causing trouble.

Rick

That section of I-55 is mostly posted at 65 mph now until about milepost 5 where it drops to 55. So a bit more reasonable. I don't remember it ever being 45 except during the widening project in the 1990s that also added the rather pointless HOV lanes.

However there was a period when the MS side was posted at 60 mph, although the speed limit was raised back to 70 sometime after road was widened to four through lanes + an auxillary lane each way.

[UCFKnights]

This is just mean: https://www.facebook.com/spearfishpd/posts/721018901425755

As a lifelong Spearfish resident, nobody goes 25 on this stretch.

How fast do they go?

Google was going 32: https://goo.gl/gnmvnk

On that note, I caught Google speeding in Menasha, WI: 27 in a 25 in a residential zone

Thats well within the margin of error of those signs. I know when they stick those signs on both sides of the highway in construction zones and I'm the only one on the road at night, one side will frequently read 65 while the other reads 68, for example.

[7/8]

Similar to the earlier Wisconsin example: US 2 through Ashland, WI is a four-lane boulevard + centre turn lane with a speed limit of 25 mph (40 km/h)

[Roadgeekteen]

Similar to the earlier Wisconsin example: US 2 through Ashland, WI is a four-lane boulevard + centre turn lane with a speed limit of 25 mph (40 km/h)

I could actually see this being 30, but 25 is a bit pushing it.

[Hurricane Rex]

99W in Sherwood. All of it but specifically the western section. Divided, 4 lanes, not many intersections, and all intersections are either signalized or RIRO and this roadway posted at 45mph. Not to mention 60 mph isn't uncommon on this stretch. There has never been an engineering study on this stretch of the roadway but if it were to occur, the 85% would be in the mid to upper 50s, suggesting a 55mph speed limit: https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3597145,-122.8584944,3a,75y,210.82h,79.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdlpDEYDVF-fDWzAcjd8vdw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

In comparison, Brookwood Parkway has similar conditions and is posted at 55 mph. Tualatin Sherwood Road is 3 lanes (one each way and a center) with many cross traffic intersections and it is posted at 45 mph as well (should stay at 45 though).

Edit: Other Oregon stretches that desperately needs to be raised:

Urban-non interstates:
OR 18 in McMinnville: should be 55 but the western section is 45. The signal excuse doesn't work due to the fact that there is a signal just east of the increase to 55.

2 laners in the Willamette Valley (all currently 55 and I see 65-70 often):
OR 99W/E
OR 18 east of Grande Ronde
OR 22 between OR 18 and OR 223
OR 213

Other 2 laners:
OR 11
US 730
OR 39
US 97 north of US 197

Almost all 4 laners: 65
Urban exempt but please count US 26 as rural west of Bethany Blvd (MP 66).

Interstates:
All interstates in Oregon: 70 minimum (I'd prefer 80 though), with exceptions on Cabbage Hill and Siskiyou Pass.
Urban:
Salem/Medford/Wilsonville/I-205 west of Oregon City/I-84 east of I-205The Dalles/Roseburg (ODOT buckled so this isn't changing for a while in Roseburg): 65

Other urban freeways: 60 (I prefer both numbers to be 70 and 75 respectively, but I'm trying to be reasonable) with exceptions:
OR 217: 55
I-5 Terwilliger curves: 55
I-5 Downtown Portland: 45-55
I-5 Interstate Bridge: 55
I-405 south of US 30: 45-55
US 26 east of OR 8: 50-55

Still, nothing bothers me more than the Sherwood stretch.

[roadman]

This past Monday, the Town of Wakefield (MA) just posted the section of Albion Street - one of the Town's major east-west streets - between Mountain Ave and Gould Street as a 20 mph school zone, effective Monday - Friday (per the tab on the sign), and re-signed all the intermediate crosswalks as school crossings.  The school this is intended to benefit isn't even on Albion Street, but on a dead-end side street about a block away.  Not to mention that the intersection of Albion and Broadway, which is in the middle of the new school zone, is fully signalized with crosswalks and an exclusive ped phase.

At least the Town hasn't yet implemented the town-wide '25 mph unless otherwise posted' nonsense the State Legislature foolishly enacted into law last year.

[mrcmc888]

Tennessee makes it where any interstate getting close to a city must slow to 55.  This makes it where you have 6 or 8 lane roads in the suburbs with no exits for miles being forced down to city speed limits.

Predictably, 60 is the lowest I've seen anyone go, and in Knoxville, at least, the police hardly enforce the limits.

[SidS1045]

At least the Town hasn't yet implemented the town-wide '25 mph unless otherwise posted' nonsense the State Legislature foolishly enacted into law last year.

Mine has, just as soon as they can post signs at the town's borders.  I'm betting the posting of the signs will be followed shortly by the purchase of police radar.

No, we don't need no steenkin' traffic engineering...or, for that matter, facts.

[Hurricane Rex]

Tennessee makes it where any interstate getting close to a city must slow to 55.  This makes it where you have 6 or 8 lane roads in the suburbs with no exits for miles being forced down to city speed limits.

Sounds like pre-2004 Oregon. Or Washington although the number is 60 instead of 55.

[jakeroot]

Tennessee makes it where any interstate getting close to a city must slow to 55.  This makes it where you have 6 or 8 lane roads in the suburbs with no exits for miles being forced down to city speed limits.

Sounds like pre-2004 Oregon. Or Washington although the number is 60 instead of 55.

Indeed. Although it sounds like most states. Urban limits are quite common across the US. Some don't seem to use them as often, such as Michigan, but most definitely do. At least in my experience.

[roadman]

At least the Town hasn't yet implemented the town-wide '25 mph unless otherwise posted' nonsense the State Legislature foolishly enacted into law last year.

Mine has, just as soon as they can post signs at the town’s borders.  I’m betting the posting of the signs will be followed shortly by the purchase of police radar.

No, we don’t need no steenkin’ traffic engineering...or, for that matter, facts.

What, your town's police force doesn't already have radar?

[SectorZ]

http://www.fox25boston.com/news/cambridge-to-lower-speed-limit-in-citys-squares/696615616

This can fall into the "most terrible" category.

I thought you were supposed to do speed surveys but Cambridge gets to just make stuff up all the time, so why not here, too.

[Flint1979]

Tennessee makes it where any interstate getting close to a city must slow to 55.  This makes it where you have 6 or 8 lane roads in the suburbs with no exits for miles being forced down to city speed limits.

Sounds like pre-2004 Oregon. Or Washington although the number is 60 instead of 55.

Indeed. Although it sounds like most states. Urban limits are quite common across the US. Some don't seem to use them as often, such as Michigan, but most definitely do. At least in my experience.

Most of Michigan has a 70 mph speed limit on the Interstate's in the bigger cities and as low as 55 like along I-94 and I-75 in Detroit. I remember I-675 in Saginaw use to have a 55 mph speed limit in the city of Saginaw and 70 elsewhere but the whole route is now 70 mph. Now Michigan has a 75 mph speed limit in certain areas.

[roadman65]

25 mph in South Plainfield, NJ.  Even on Park Avenue which should be 40 or 45 as its a major two lane arterial, its ridiculously low.  Considering once Park Avenue enters Downtown Plainfield the speed increases by 5 mph and is 30 mph in the urban business district.

Then Florida with its 20 mph school zones.   Even NJ lets you do 25 mph through a school zone.

What about 45 mph on the Pulaski Skyway on a road the cops cannot enforce it.  Might as well make it 55 so many can do the 70 they do already (that is when its not under construction of course).

Then here in Florida, the fact we do not have it 75 on rural stretches of the Florida Turnpike and Alligator Alley thanks to Dick Scott vetoing the bill to increase the statewide freeway max.

[Revive 755]

Then Florida with its 20 mph school zones.   Even NJ lets you do 25 mph through a school zone.

Florida is better than parts of Tennessee and Wisconsin which have 15 mph school zones.

[roadman65]

Actually we have some that are 15.  I have seen even 10 mph someplace, but for the most part they are 20.

[jakeroot]

http://www.fox25boston.com/news/cambridge-to-lower-speed-limit-in-citys-squares/696615616

This can fall into the "most terrible" category.

I thought you were supposed to do speed surveys but Cambridge gets to just make stuff up all the time, so why not here, too.

I think the extent of most surveys now is "will an impact at 20 kill fewer than at 25?" with the answer being "yes". They don't seem to take into account the speed that most drivers do.

For what it's worth, I'm fine with a 20 limit on residential roads (the new residential limit). Many here in Seattle are single lane (bi-directional) with parking on both sides, so more than 20 feels pretty fast. The arterial limit is now 25 (formerly 25 and 30, respectively). The arterial limit can feel pretty slow sometimes. SPD doesn't enforce the limits much either, since the arterial limit is almost universally ignored.

[vdeane]

Plus I think MA just passed a law recently allowing cities to bypass such restrictions.

[roadman]

http://www.fox25boston.com/news/cambridge-to-lower-speed-limit-in-citys-squares/696615616

This can fall into the "most terrible" category.

I thought you were supposed to do speed surveys but Cambridge gets to just make stuff up all the time, so why not here, too.

Any speed limit reduction that's based on the "slower is always better" myth without any supporting studies to justify it, especially if it's unreasonably slow for drivers to reasonably maintain, by default is always "most terrible."  I really wish that, one of these days, a smart lawyer would challenge some of this nonsense.

[ftballfan]

Tennessee makes it where any interstate getting close to a city must slow to 55.  This makes it where you have 6 or 8 lane roads in the suburbs with no exits for miles being forced down to city speed limits.

Sounds like pre-2004 Oregon. Or Washington although the number is 60 instead of 55.

Indeed. Although it sounds like most states. Urban limits are quite common across the US. Some don't seem to use them as often, such as Michigan, but most definitely do. At least in my experience.

Most of Michigan has a 70 mph speed limit on the Interstate's in the bigger cities and as low as 55 like along I-94 and I-75 in Detroit. I remember I-675 in Saginaw use to have a 55 mph speed limit in the city of Saginaw and 70 elsewhere but the whole route is now 70 mph. Now Michigan has a 75 mph speed limit in certain areas.

I-75 north of I-94 in the City of Detroit is 70. Also, most (if not all) of I-96 in Detroit is 70. However, the Southfield, Davison, and part of the Lodge are 55.

A portion of I-196 in Grand Rapids is 65, however, there is a nasty curve between the Lake Michigan Dr and Lane Ave exits.

M-231 should have been 65 the day it opened. Thankfully, it is 65 now!

Here are some other two-lane roads in MI that should be 65 (outside of built-up areas):
M-20 from New Era to Stanwood
M-45 west of Allendale
M-50 from M-43 to Charlotte
M-52 from Webberville to Stockbridge
M-55 from Lake City to Houghton Lake and West Branch to Tawas
Almost all of M-113
M-115 from Benzonia to Farwell
US-131 from the northern end of the freeway to Kalkaska.

Also, many two-lane roads in Washtenaw County are 40 to 50 when they could easily be 55. The only 55mph (non-state highway) road in eastern Washtenaw County that I can think of right now is Wiard Rd.

[Buck87]

Tennessee makes it where any interstate getting close to a city must slow to 55.  This makes it where you have 6 or 8 lane roads in the suburbs with no exits for miles being forced down to city speed limits.

Predictably, 60 is the lowest I've seen anyone go, and in Knoxville, at least, the police hardly enforce the limits.

Knoxville is what I first thought of when I saw this thread. Not sure which is more annoying, I-75 dropping down to 55 way to early when approaching Knoxville from the north, most of the 8 lane I-75/40 concurrency being 55, or I-75 staying at 65 for an extra 10 miles or so after it leaves I-40 when it should obviously jump back up to 70 immediately after the split.