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tolbs17:

--- Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 06:48:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: ahj2000 on June 17, 2021, 06:17:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: tolbs17 on June 17, 2021, 03:24:48 AM ---Do these narrow bridges prevent NCDOT from signing this I-587 already?

Those are the only ones I see when looking at the entire I-587 segment from I-95 to the Southwest Bypass.

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Iíd imagine the larger problem is not having 87 signed to the 64/264 split yet. In my mind, the auxiliary needs to come from the parent.

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Not necessarily a problem, just more that may be NCDOTís preference. That stretch wonít be upgraded until it is widened to 6 lanes, likely at the end of the decade at the earliest unless it is accelerated. Then thereís the segment of US-264 between US-64 and I-95.

NCDOT could request authorization from the FHWA today to designate the portion between I-95 and the NC-11 Bypass as I-587, given that stretch now meets interstate standards and connects to an interstate highway.

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They didn't do it for I-42 though.

I don't think they will until all the bypasses and upgrades to US-70 are complete?

tolbs17:

--- Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 06:48:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: ahj2000 on June 17, 2021, 06:17:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: tolbs17 on June 17, 2021, 03:24:48 AM ---Do these narrow bridges prevent NCDOT from signing this I-587 already?

Those are the only ones I see when looking at the entire I-587 segment from I-95 to the Southwest Bypass.

--- End quote ---
Iíd imagine the larger problem is not having 87 signed to the 64/264 split yet. In my mind, the auxiliary needs to come from the parent.

--- End quote ---
Not necessarily a problem, just more that may be NCDOTís preference. That stretch wonít be upgraded until it is widened to 6 lanes, likely at the end of the decade at the earliest unless it is accelerated. Then thereís the segment of US-264 between US-64 and I-95.

NCDOT could request authorization from the FHWA today to designate the portion between I-95 and the NC-11 Bypass as I-587, given that stretch now meets interstate standards and connects to an interstate highway.

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And you say, the bridges CAN be replaced. Are they required to be replaced though?

Dirt Roads:

--- Quote from: tolbs17 on June 17, 2021, 03:24:48 AM ---Do these narrow bridges prevent NCDOT from signing this I-587 already?

Those are the only ones I see when looking at the entire I-587 segment from I-95 to the Southwest Bypass.

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--- Quote from: ahj2000 on June 17, 2021, 06:17:51 AM ---Iíd imagine the larger problem is not having 87 signed to the 64/264 split yet. In my mind, the auxiliary needs to come from the parent.

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--- Quote from: sprjus4 on June 17, 2021, 06:48:23 AM ---Not necessarily a problem, just more that may be NCDOTís preference. That stretch wonít be upgraded until it is widened to 6 lanes, likely at the end of the decade at the earliest unless it is accelerated. Then thereís the segment of US-264 between US-64 and I-95.

NCDOT could request authorization from the FHWA today to designate the portion between I-95 and the NC-11 Bypass as I-587, given that stretch now meets interstate standards and connects to an interstate highway.

--- End quote ---

Might be totally wrong here, but I think that NCDOT is still wary of fellow AASHTO members rejecting a proposal and having to wait another few years to get the same renumbering issue back on the docket.  Given the newer political clout wielded by the ever-growing of North Carolina congressional representatives, I would be surprised if AASHTO dared to stand in the way of future renumbering requests.  However, I respect NCDOT for being careful.  After all, that primary goal is to keep improving the entire network here (and not jump through unnecessary hoops to slap up Interstate shields).  (Even if it seems that way to the rest of the world).

bob7374:
I've posted photos taken recently along the Future I-587 corridor by Adam Prince highlighting the recent completion of shoulder widening work in Greene and Pitt Counties at: https://malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut587.html

LM117:

--- Quote from: ahj2000 on June 17, 2021, 06:17:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: tolbs17 on June 17, 2021, 03:24:48 AM ---Do these narrow bridges prevent NCDOT from signing this I-587 already?

Those are the only ones I see when looking at the entire I-587 segment from I-95 to the Southwest Bypass.

--- End quote ---
Iíd imagine the larger problem is not having 87 signed to the 64/264 split yet. In my mind, the auxiliary needs to come from the parent.

--- End quote ---

That didn't stop NCDOT from signing I-495 between I-440 and I-540 before it was replaced by I-87. I-369 in Texas is also another example of a signed 3-di that doesn't connect with it's parent yet.

I think there's a decent chance I-587 will be signed between I-95 and Greenville. Back in late 2012/early 2013 when Greenville started their push for US-264 to become an interstate, they cared more for having an interstate connection to I-95 more than they did to Raleigh. Their initial proposal actually called for the interstate to end at I-95.

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