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Re: Alabama
« Reply #525 on: April 11, 2021, 01:12:49 PM »

Was looking around on Google maps satellite and noticed significant road work in the median of AL-255 (Research Park Blvd) in Huntsville. The work zone stretches from I-565 to US-72. It appears to be a widening project. Can anyone confirm this?

yep, it is a widening project.

https://www.huntsvilleal.gov/roadworkprojects/research-park-boulevard-sr-255-between-university-drive-u-s-72-and-old-madison-pike/

It backs up tremendously in the Mornings at Gate 9 for the Redstone Arsenal:



Unfortunately, it won't take care of that goofy ramp to westbound I-565, which was pinned too close to the Bradford Road on-ramp.

You meant the ramp from Madison Pike.  Bradford Drive is the next exit north.

This widening project has been needed for a while.  I have had to use AL 255 (or Rideout Rd) between I-565 and US 72 many times over the years and it can be a pain.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #526 on: April 11, 2021, 07:49:41 PM »

Was looking around on Google maps satellite and noticed significant road work in the median of AL-255 (Research Park Blvd) in Huntsville. The work zone stretches from I-565 to US-72. It appears to be a widening project. Can anyone confirm this?

yep, it is a widening project.

https://www.huntsvilleal.gov/roadworkprojects/research-park-boulevard-sr-255-between-university-drive-u-s-72-and-old-madison-pike/

It backs up tremendously in the Mornings at Gate 9 for the Redstone Arsenal:



Unfortunately, it won't take care of that goofy ramp to westbound I-565, which was pinned too close to the Bradford Road on-ramp.

You meant the ramp from Madison Pike.  Bradford Drive is the next exit north.

This widening project has been needed for a while.  I have had to use AL 255 (or Rideout Rd) between I-565 and US 72 many times over the years and it can be a pain.

Are those backups the reason Gate 9 got moved further south or was it the development of the Redstone Gateway area?
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #527 on: April 12, 2021, 08:47:14 AM »

Was looking around on Google maps satellite and noticed significant road work in the median of AL-255 (Research Park Blvd) in Huntsville. The work zone stretches from I-565 to US-72. It appears to be a widening project. Can anyone confirm this?

yep, it is a widening project.

https://www.huntsvilleal.gov/roadworkprojects/research-park-boulevard-sr-255-between-university-drive-u-s-72-and-old-madison-pike/

It backs up tremendously in the Mornings at Gate 9 for the Redstone Arsenal:



Unfortunately, it won't take care of that goofy ramp to westbound I-565, which was pinned too close to the Bradford Road on-ramp.

You meant the ramp from Madison Pike.  Bradford Drive is the next exit north.

This widening project has been needed for a while.  I have had to use AL 255 (or Rideout Rd) between I-565 and US 72 many times over the years and it can be a pain.

Are those backups the reason Gate 9 got moved further south or was it the development of the Redstone Gateway area?

I am pretty sure it was the development of the Redstone Gateway area.  Gate 9 was the only 24/7 open gate into Redstone Arsenal at one point.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #528 on: April 20, 2021, 10:14:28 PM »

Has anyone else had issues getting to ALDOT's website lately?  I've tried on multiple devices with multiple browsers and had no luck for a number of weeks now.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #529 on: April 22, 2021, 07:56:11 PM »

Has anyone else had issues getting to ALDOT's website lately?  I've tried on multiple devices with multiple browsers and had no luck for a number of weeks now.
ALDOT's website was recently modernized (long overdue!), and as of right now the site is working properly most of the time, they've fixed most of the bugs that were occurring on mobile browsers but there are a couple minor bugs that still have to be ironed out. Some old links may have to be updated as they are on new pages in the new website.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #530 on: April 26, 2021, 12:15:00 AM »

It seems to be a problem with my ISP.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #531 on: May 04, 2021, 10:40:07 AM »

I took a daytrip to Harvest, AL last week, a part of the Huntsville area I had not visited before.  A few notes:

I-65 can be chore to drive north of Birmingham.  I could not tell if it was because of the traffic or the left lane hogs (or both).

I-565 is being 6-laned from I-65 to County Line Road in Madison.  It did not look like it will be finished anytime soon though.

A loop ramp has been added at Exit 3 (Greenbriar Rd.).  I assume that is for the new Toyota-Mazda plant.

The new exit to Town Madison Blvd on I-565 has been opened.  Traffic can only enter or exit eastbound.  A westbound exit is on the drawing board.  The new exit is Exit 10.

I, yet again, nearly missed the ramp to I-565 west from AL 255 south on my back home.

I will be back in the Huntsville area again Friday. 

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Re: Alabama
« Reply #532 on: May 13, 2021, 03:46:19 PM »

I took a daytrip to Harvest, AL last week, a part of the Huntsville area I had not visited before.  A few notes:

I-65 can be chore to drive north of Birmingham.  I could not tell if it was because of the traffic or the left lane hogs (or both).

I-565 is being 6-laned from I-65 to County Line Road in Madison.  It did not look like it will be finished anytime soon though.

A loop ramp has been added at Exit 3 (Greenbriar Rd.).  I assume that is for the new Toyota-Mazda plant.

The new exit to Town Madison Blvd on I-565 has been opened.  Traffic can only enter or exit eastbound.  A westbound exit is on the drawing board.  The new exit is Exit 10.

I, yet again, nearly missed the ramp to I-565 west from AL 255 south on my back home.

I will be back in the Huntsville area again Friday. 



ALDOT at least has plans for a 2024 letting of widening the remainder of I-565 between County Line Road/Madison Blvd and Wall-Triana Blvd. That will be nice. Now if they would focus on widening I-65 between Birmingham and Montgomery and between Birmingham and I-565.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #533 on: May 27, 2021, 03:38:50 AM »

A section of AL 117 that's on Google Maps' preferred route between ATL and Huntsville has been closed by the threat of a landslide.  It's possible to bypass the closure via CR's 89 and 604.
https://www.waaytv.com/content/news/Landslide-forces-closure-of-roadway-in-DeKalb-County-574114911.html
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #534 on: May 27, 2021, 01:49:39 PM »

A section of AL 117 that's on Google Maps' preferred route between ATL and Huntsville has been closed by the threat of a landslide.  It's possible to bypass the closure via CR's 89 and 604.
https://www.waaytv.com/content/news/Landslide-forces-closure-of-roadway-in-DeKalb-County-574114911.html

I noticed that when I was in Fort Payne a month ago that AL 117 was closed with detour signs posted.
On another note, when I was in Fort Payne, I-59 through town was undergoing reconstruction and was down to one lane each way with traffic using the southbound lanes.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #535 on: May 28, 2021, 09:46:33 PM »

Work has officially begun on the US-82 widening on the 2-lane section in Prattville between SR-14 and US-31. I went through there today and some of the roadwork signs have been erected and they have begun clearing out trees around Autauga Creek near the entrance to the International Paper plant. Newell Roadbuilders out of Hope Hull is the general contractor for this Rebuild Alabama project; they have done other similar jobs across the state as well such as the eastern half of the US-84 Elba Bypass (which they feature on their Facebook page). When complete, the Prattville bypass will become a full four-lane divided roadway, and the existing bridges at the Autauga Northern RR and Autauga Creek will be replaced, and a pair of new bridges will be built to the north of the existing bridges to carry the westbound lanes. The existing two-lane roadway will become the eastbound lanes (similar to the previous 82 widening project to the west of this current project completed a few years ago).
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #536 on: May 31, 2021, 03:19:44 PM »

I noticed that when I was in Fort Payne a month ago that AL 117 was closed with detour signs posted.
On another note, when I was in Fort Payne, I-59 through town was undergoing reconstruction and was down to one lane each way with traffic using the southbound lanes.

And not a moment too soon -- the pavement was in pretty poor shape, more potholes with some asphalt between them than the other way around. It looked like they were taking the road down to start over with a new subgrade.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #537 on: July 03, 2021, 04:21:41 PM »

Last Saturday I stopped at the new AL 117 arch bridge in Mentone. I want to post about this in Bridges, but so far Imgur's let me upload only these two photos. Maybe I'll try for more later.


This is from the southeast end of the bridge. As you can see, the old 1928 bridge and part of the old highway were retained for bike-ped use. If you go there yourself, park on the other side of the bridge. I relocated shortly after taking this because I was parked on the bike path. There's a better spot on the other side.




The new bridge is almost all precast, trucked in and erected with cranes- - there's a two-minute video on Facebook. The arches were in two pieces, with a closure pour between. Even knowing they were there, I was unable to see the limits of the closure pours in the field due to the excellent workmanship. Hats off to everyone involved!  :clap:

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« Reply #538 on: August 06, 2021, 08:37:10 PM »

Spotted an article on I14 this week. Not holding my breath to see any of this around here in my lifetime.

https://www.al.com/politics/2021/08/plans-for-alabamas-newest-interstate-i-14-progress-in-us-senate.html
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« Reply #539 on: August 06, 2021, 09:40:08 PM »

Spotted an article on I14 this week. Not holding my breath to see any of this around here in my lifetime.

https://www.al.com/politics/2021/08/plans-for-alabamas-newest-interstate-i-14-progress-in-us-senate.html

I could see a good deal of the US 80 corridor from I-59/20 to I-65 getting built, a lot of the ROW is available and it's already four lanes across. Selma would need a bypass or some kind.
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« Reply #540 on: August 06, 2021, 11:12:32 PM »

^ Not just Selma, but Demopolis and Uniontown as well.  And no, very little of the ROW is "available".  As far as Alabama is concerned, this is basically "I-85 South" in a repackaged format.  Environmental and location studies for that project between Meridian and Montgomery already demonstrated that the vast majority of the route would have to be on new location.
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« Reply #541 on: August 08, 2021, 02:36:36 PM »

^ Not just Selma, but Demopolis and Uniontown as well.  And no, very little of the ROW is "available".  As far as Alabama is concerned, this is basically "I-85 South" in a repackaged format.  Environmental and location studies for that project between Meridian and Montgomery already demonstrated that the vast majority of the route would have to be on new location.


Yeah, half of Uniontown would be demolished if not bypassed (or just dodged somewhat). US 80 sort of already bypasses much of Demopolis, but there's still businesses along it.

Personally, I don't think the traffic counts warrant an "upgrade" to controlled access, but if I-14 becomes signed into reality, I don't foresee any other corridor working out.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #542 on: August 08, 2021, 07:46:41 PM »

^ Not just Selma, but Demopolis and Uniontown as well.  And no, very little of the ROW is "available".  As far as Alabama is concerned, this is basically "I-85 South" in a repackaged format.  Environmental and location studies for that project between Meridian and Montgomery already demonstrated that the vast majority of the route would have to be on new location.


Yeah, half of Uniontown would be demolished if not bypassed (or just dodged somewhat). US 80 sort of already bypasses much of Demopolis, but there's still businesses along it.

Personally, I don't think the traffic counts warrant an "upgrade" to controlled access, but if I-14 becomes signed into reality, I don't foresee any other corridor working out.

Just because the corridor is written into law doesnít mean money for it will also appear to build it.

I donít see Alabama rushing to build this when there are more pressing needs throughout the state. IMO, the I-10 Mobile River bridge and bayway and widening I-65 across the state should be at the top of the list. I-65 is a death trap here. 
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« Reply #543 on: August 08, 2021, 08:49:01 PM »

Yeah, 65 Sucks in the spring and summer because of the Florida traffic. IMO 65 Should be a total of 6 lanes throughout the state, because it's a hurricane evacuation route. The bridge over the mobile river and the following viaduct north of that both need to be renovated or rebuilt? Those bridges are old as dirt! It doesn't cripple a 3 lane road in case of an accident in thr middle of nowhere as opposed to one with 2 lanes where often times the road gets shutdown for over an hour...75 throughout Georgia is 3 lanes in both directions and gets crazy conjested every weekend...That drive sucks!
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #544 on: August 09, 2021, 04:05:26 AM »

^ Not just Selma, but Demopolis and Uniontown as well.  And no, very little of the ROW is "available".  As far as Alabama is concerned, this is basically "I-85 South" in a repackaged format.  Environmental and location studies for that project between Meridian and Montgomery already demonstrated that the vast majority of the route would have to be on new location.


Having traveled on that section of US 80 several times, the only section that might be readily included in an Interstate-grade corridor is the Tombigbee River Bridge (Tenn-Tom navigable waterway) and approaches; the remainder is largely conventional 4-lane rural highway with private access.  Either heroic construction (TX-style with continuous frontages) or new-terrain alignment will be required -- the expense of which likely sunk the previous I-85 extension proposal. 
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« Reply #545 on: August 09, 2021, 07:10:28 AM »

^ Not just Selma, but Demopolis and Uniontown as well.  And no, very little of the ROW is "available".  As far as Alabama is concerned, this is basically "I-85 South" in a repackaged format.  Environmental and location studies for that project between Meridian and Montgomery already demonstrated that the vast majority of the route would have to be on new location.


Having traveled on that section of US 80 several times, the only section that might be readily included in an Interstate-grade corridor is the Tombigbee River Bridge (Tenn-Tom navigable waterway) and approaches; the remainder is largely conventional 4-lane rural highway with private access.  Either heroic construction (TX-style with continuous frontages) or new-terrain alignment will be required -- the expense of which likely sunk the previous I-85 extension proposal. 

I am not entirely sure what sunk the previous I-85 extension proposal, but I am sure cost was a big factor. I would guess that since most of the route is four-lanes, ALDOT opted to not pursue this further. I would at least consider building limited-access bypasses around the towns as a start, but I stand by my previous comment that this shouldn't be the state's top priority.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #546 on: August 10, 2021, 03:57:35 PM »

Yeah, 65 Sucks in the spring and summer because of the Florida traffic. IMO 65 Should be a total of 6 lanes throughout the state, because it's a hurricane evacuation route. The bridge over the mobile river and the following viaduct north of that both need to be renovated or rebuilt? Those bridges are old as dirt! It doesn't cripple a 3 lane road in case of an accident in thr middle of nowhere as opposed to one with 2 lanes where often times the road gets shutdown for over an hour...75 throughout Georgia is 3 lanes in both directions and gets crazy conjested every weekend ...That drive sucks!
The bridges over the Mobile River are actually not that old -- late 70s/early 80s or so.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #547 on: August 12, 2021, 11:56:00 AM »

^ Not just Selma, but Demopolis and Uniontown as well.  And no, very little of the ROW is "available".  As far as Alabama is concerned, this is basically "I-85 South" in a repackaged format.  Environmental and location studies for that project between Meridian and Montgomery already demonstrated that the vast majority of the route would have to be on new location.


Having traveled on that section of US 80 several times, the only section that might be readily included in an Interstate-grade corridor is the Tombigbee River Bridge (Tenn-Tom navigable waterway) and approaches; the remainder is largely conventional 4-lane rural highway with private access.  Either heroic construction (TX-style with continuous frontages) or new-terrain alignment will be required -- the expense of which likely sunk the previous I-85 extension proposal. 

I am not entirely sure what sunk the previous I-85 extension proposal, but I am sure cost was a big factor. I would guess that since most of the route is four-lanes, ALDOT opted to not pursue this further. I would at least consider building limited-access bypasses around the towns as a start, but I stand by my previous comment that this shouldn't be the state's top priority.
I must agree with you here. It shouldnít be the stateís top priority. Sadly, this whole region is depressed and an Interstate would help, itís just there are more pressing needs at this time.
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