Flower Mound, TX Switching Square Sign Posts To Slip Base

[Brian556]

I worked for the Town Of Flower Mound pretty soon after they started using square posts. I said that they weren't going to remain straight because they were just driven into the ground, and no cement was used. I thought they were a ridiculous idea. Fast forward 12 years later, and now they are going around replacing the ones that are leaning, using the slip-base system where you cement a stub into the ground. This is just like TxDOT's system, but the posts are square perforated tubing. Also, they were driving the 3-foot base sleeves into the ground without calling for a utility locate, which is illegal. I told them that, and they said no its ok. Soon after I quit I noticed that they started getting locates.

The boss there was the biggest jerk in history, so in my mind I'm saying "ha-ha, told you so!"

Now if the dipsticks would start using 36-inch stop signs where a single sign controls more than one lane it would be nice.

Any other jurisdictions giving up on square posts that are installed without cement?

[cjk374]

My part of Louisiana uses square tubing by driving a base directly in the ground. I have seen them being mounted on top of a concrete slab with a base bolted down to it, but they seem to fail with regularity.

[jbnv]

My part of Louisiana uses square tubing by driving a base directly in the ground. I have seen them being mounted on top of a concrete slab with a base bolted down to it, but they seem to fail with regularity.

That's pretty much everywhere in Louisiana. We don't need no stinkin' quality control. 

[US71]

Arkansas used U-shaped steel posts for many years, but have been converting to square posts. There's a stub mounted into a cement hole, then the sign post attached to the stub.