It seems like nobody else on the forum enjoys listening to artists like Taylor Swift. On the thread about the song you listening to thread, most of the music on there is at least 20-30 years old and I've never heard of half of those artists. Also seeing some of this pop up in the radio threads about how radio music is so much worse nowadays. I find the actual music the radio plays to be fine, it's just the commercials that are the problem.
YouTube suggested this and it's actually pretty damn good, though I am amused to note which of them took the line "me and my baby in a 69."
https://youtu.be/lppIIMnvQtE
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 03, 2023, 03:17:39 PMIt seems like nobody else on the forum enjoys listening to artists like Taylor Swift. On the thread about the song you listening to thread, most of the music on there is at least 20-30 years old and I've never heard of half of those artists. Also seeing some of this pop up in the radio threads about how radio music is so much worse nowadays. I find the actual music the radio plays to be fine, it's just the commercials that are the problem.
Forum search results for {"Taylor Swift"}: two pages (including a link to a post by Jeffandnicole saying "Taylor Swift rules!").
Forum search results for {"fork sign"} (road-related): just one page.
It's literally just different for me. I have a bit of a contrarian streak in me, so I typically try to wrap back around and hit the "popular" artists once the hype and hub die down a bit.
Take Stefani Germanotta for example. Her songs are generally not my cup of tea. She does have some bangers though. Weird fashion sense too, but whatever.
I like Taylor Swift too, she made it as my #5 Spotify artist last year. My favourite albums by her are Fearless, 1989, Folklore, and Evermore.
I still think of the 2000's as "modern music" (maybe because I listened to so much 70's and 80's music growing up), but if I use a definition of 2010's/2020's for modern, here are some artists I like, sorted by genre:
- Bedroom Pop: Jay Som
- Dream Pop: Atmos Bloom, Beach Fossils, Beach House, Castlebeat, Day Wave, Fazerdaze, Hazel English, Lunar Isles, No Vacation, Real Estate, Ruby Haunt, Swimming Tapes, Turnover, Wild Nothing
- Indie Rock: Arcade Fire, Boy Pablo, Death Cab for Cutie, Goth Babe, Kings of Leon, Mac DeMarco, The National, Of Monsters and Men, Softer Still
- Chillwave (not 100% sure, there's no Wikipedia article for these): Attom, EMBRZ
- Country: Chris Stapleton, Colter Wall, Taylor Swift
- Deep House: Lane 8, Ocula, Sultan and Shepard
- Electropop/house: Madeon, Porter Robinson
- Folk: Gregory Alan Isakov
- Lofi: Nom Tunes, Pr4ntik, Project AER, Refeeld, Tophat Panda, Yoann Garel
- Psychedelic Pop/Rock: Tame Impala
- Shoegaze: DIIV, Slowdive, Whirr
- Synthwave: Com Truise
- Tropical House: Kygo
I'll say since graduating University 5 years ago, my music tastes have shifted a lot from the mostly 70's and 80's pop/rock and prog rock that I used to listen to to a lot more modern music (especially dream pop). I still like those older songs, but I don't listen to them as much. Spotify has been great for finding lots of smaller artists that I never would've found otherwise, and for about $15 a month for our entire family, it's an amazing deal IMO (I used to spend close to that on a single used CD!).
Modern music just doesn't do it for me. For whatever reason most of the things I like (including music) seem to be based around the formative years of my life (1982-1992). What I've gathered over the years is that kind of thing tends just be normal. Similarly most people my parents age didn't like 1980s era music when I was young. I tend to enjoy music from from the 1960s up to the early 1990s.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 03, 2023, 04:04:05 PM
Modern music just doesn't do it for me. For whatever reason most of the things I like (including music) seem to be based around the formative years of my life (1982-1992). What I've gathered over the years is that kind of thing tends just be normal. Similarly most people my parents age didn't like 1980s era music when I was young. I tend to enjoy music from from the 1960s up to the early 1990s.
It's funny because you were only 11 in 1992. I've always thought that your formative years for music were more like your teen years, so for you it would be mid to late 90s music.
I like plenty of new music, but I haven't listened to any pop music in probably 20 years or so (basically once out of college). I remember, as a high schooler, saying to my teachers, "How do you not know this song!". Now I know. You actively don't listen to stations that play pop music. Obviously I know some TSwift songs in passing, or things like the Weeknd (if that's how you spell it), Post Malone, etc. But only because I hear them in public places or on commercials (which is also a rarity since I don't watch a ton of live TV).
I listen to some modern rap (Kendrick, Denzel Curry, the new Nas album), but very little of the new wave of rap hits me like it did even 10 years ago. The beats are generally terrible now and the lyrics way less interesting/catchy. Even stuff that's well-regarded by critics like Chance the Rapper is not appealing to me at all.
Country is not my jam in general, but I do listen to bluegrass.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 03, 2023, 04:09:25 PM
I like plenty of new music, but I haven't listened to any pop music in probably 20 years or so (basically once out of college). I remember, as a high schooler, saying to my teachers, "How do you not know this song!". ....
Heh. I was in junior high from 1985 to 1987 and I remember my eighth-grade English teacher said something about Led Zeppelin one day. One of the other kids thought that was the coolest thing ever: "Teachers aren't supposed to know who Billy Joel is and here she is referring to Led Zep!!!!"
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 03, 2023, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 03, 2023, 04:04:05 PM
Modern music just doesn't do it for me. For whatever reason most of the things I like (including music) seem to be based around the formative years of my life (1982-1992). What I've gathered over the years is that kind of thing tends just be normal. Similarly most people my parents age didn't like 1980s era music when I was young. I tend to enjoy music from from the 1960s up to the early 1990s.
It's funny because you were only 11 in 1992. I've always thought that your formative years for music were more like your teen years, so for you it would be mid to late 90s music.
My brother is seven years older than I am. What my brother and his friends liked tended to be what I also liked. Way more of my early life was based around 1980s centric things than 1990s. By the time I was in early middle school I was already pretty hardened into the personality and likes I have now. Grunge in particular is something I just found depressing and unenjoyable.
My teen years were something of a throwaway as I was waiting out turning 18 and being able to leave. It certainly was probably accentuated by the fact my family moved so many times between 1996 and 2000 that I didn't really have much attachment to the era.
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 03, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
Forum search results for {"Taylor Swift"}: two pages (including a link to a post by Jeffandnicole saying "Taylor Swift rules!").
Hahaha
But yet, I do enjoy listening to her music.
For the most part I enjoy modern pop and country music. I'm not too big into the rap / hip hop anymore. I used to love it in my late teens and early 20's, and even rapped quite a bit myself, but not so much now. Even the rap I used to like just doesn't hit like it used to.
My favorite genre of music tends to be classic rock these days and is what I listen to the most. I also enjoy most classical Mexican music and female sung Latino pop.
Since Taylor Swift was mentioned I'll comment on that. Her country music and country pop music in my view was really good and I still listen to it. Her newer stuff is hit and miss though. "1989" was the last album she made that I enjoyed all the way through.
The only Taylor Swift I ever enjoyed was the CMT Crossroads live show she did with Def Leppard. That was back when she was still a country artist, which is insane to think what a fraction of her career is now country when she became a megastar due to her rise in the genre.
In terms of your taste RGT, you do you.
From the sounds of things, the answer to your question RGT, is no.
I used to listen to pop music in the early 2010s, mixed in with a handful of older tracks. As I got older, the pop music got worse, and I also liked it a lot less. I don't enjoy really anything popular that's released recently outside of a song here or there. I preferred 80s music or some electronic retro-style instrumental music, mostly by this very niche artist Anders Enger Jensen. Definitely suggest checking him out if that sounds even remotely interesting to you. He's got several albums worth of music.
My latest music kick has brought me into smooth jazz, a genre I actually listened to when I was a kid thanks to several Peanuts OST albums that were primarily jazz. I also remember the smooth jazz the Weather Channel used to play before they went to generic, lame music a decade ago, and my currently playlist is actually based mainly on songs they used to use during local forecasts.
I listen to, and enjoy lots of modern country music, as well as a large amount of modern pop. My favorite/most listened to artist, OneRepublic, has a good amount of modern pop music in their Human album (2021).
I'm waiting for a country song writer to do one about a guy whose self-driving pick-up truck left him and took his dog and pretty lady with it.
:-P
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on April 03, 2023, 05:54:37 PM
I'm waiting for a country song writer to do one about a guy whose self-driving pick-up truck left him and took his dog and pretty lady with it.
:-P
Mike
My wife did not appreciate my idea for the country song I came up with while crossing Tejon Pass the other day. Essentially the "song" was a story about a dude who loved his truck (a Silverado 2500) and asked it to marry him. On the wedding day it ran off with another guy and left the singer heart broken. He finds love again in a F-250.
There are certain modern pop songs I like, but it's individual songs and not artists or time periods that draw my attention. Although I tend to like 2010s music better than 2000s.
Living in Oklahoma has made me despise country music. Generally the people who listen to it do so as part of this whole identity about it, and that identity tends to end up "being an asshole" if you look at it too closely.
I don't care for rap because I want my music to have a tune to it–I prefer instrumentals if given the chance. The lyrics and their delivery can be technically impressive but it doesn't do anything for me musically without a melody.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 03, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
It seems like nobody else on the forum enjoys listening to artists like Taylor Swift. On the thread about the song you listening to thread, most of the music on there is at least 20-30 years old and I've never heard of half of those artists. Also seeing some of this pop up in the radio threads about how radio music is so much worse nowadays. I find the actual music the radio plays to be fine, it's just the commercials that are the problem.
Pfft. You forget that there are a lot of members of this forum that don't post in that thread, youngin'.
I've got "Shake It Off" in a playlist and The Weeknd's "Blinding Lights"...a couple of Bruno Mars songs...
Having kids of my own helped, but I do make an effort to check the Billboard hits every now and then.
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 03, 2023, 06:26:37 PM
Living in Oklahoma has made me despise country music. Generally the people who listen to it do so as part of this whole identity about it, and that identity tends to end up "being an asshole" if you look at it too closely.
Country fans being stereotyped a certain way means that I use country music more as a guilty pleasure, and I won't really advertise that I'm into it that publically.
But aren't you kind of publicly admitting you like Country Music as a guilty pleasure right now?
My Dad was into Country Music and had a bunch of Garth Brooks tapes. To me the entire genre sounds way too homogenized and doesn't have much variety.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 03, 2023, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 03, 2023, 06:26:37 PM
Living in Oklahoma has made me despise country music. Generally the people who listen to it do so as part of this whole identity about it, and that identity tends to end up "being an asshole" if you look at it too closely.
Country fans being stereotyped a certain way means that I use country music more as a guilty pleasure, and I won't really advertise that I'm into it that publically.
I think it's not so much that country fans are a certain way, but rather that people who are a certain way listen to country as a way of underscoring the certain way they are.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 03, 2023, 07:46:40 PM
To me the entire genre sounds way too homogenized and doesn't have much variety.
There was a video I saw once where they overlaid four country songs from different bands over top of one another, and the chord changes and even the timing of the bridges and choruses all lined up.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 03, 2023, 07:46:40 PM
But aren't you kind of publicly admitting you like Country Music as a guilty pleasure right now?
My Dad was into Country Music and had a bunch of Garth Brooks tapes. To me the entire genre sounds way too homogenized and doesn't have much variety.
Most of you guys know me well enough to know that I'm not like most stereotypical country fans.
I don't listen to too much modern music, hip-hop and rap being an exception, in addition to some electronic music (stuff you might hear at a rave).
I liked the country music in the early 2000s/late 90s, but not the current stuff.
I enjoy some modern music, but hardly any of it ever makes Billboard's Hot 100 chart. Most of the new music I buy is either modern rock or protest music against some of the things that have been in the news in the past few years.
With the exception of smooth jazz, I just cannot get into the music of today. In terms of pop/rock music, the best era for me remains the late 70s-mid 90s, although I also liked select artists and albums from as recent as 2005.
As for country, I just don't buy into the stereotype of all Midwesterners liking the genre. In fact, I hate it with a passion.
Quote from: Hunty2022 on April 03, 2023, 05:30:05 PM
I listen to, and enjoy lots of modern country music, as well as a large amount of modern pop. My favorite/most listened to artist, OneRepublic, has a good amount of modern pop music in their Human album (2021).
Those dudes used to be regulars at one of the restaurants I ran. Super nice guys. We had a random Pandora station playing one night and one of their songs came on and they just started belting it out in the middle of the restaurant.
My daughter is a big T Swift fan, and I've fallen into the vortex of liking her music. It's incredibly catchy!
As for modern rap and country? Well....
I think rap really hit its peak in the early to mid 90s when you had the emergence of rappers like Dr. Dre, Snoop, Tupac, Biggie, the Wu-Tang Clan, etc. The west coast vs east coast rap feud helped add a layer of entertainment to it, but overall it was just solid! Great lyrics, catchy beats, I enjoyed it immensely. There's still talented hip hop acts out there, but I think the peak of the genre is in the rearview.
Country?? Well, I'm a bit old school here. There are still a handful of country artists I like, such as Eric Church, Morgan Wallen, Miranda Lambert, Carrie Underwood, Cole Swindell. But I think a lot of it has become increasingly meat headed. Hey gurl....get up in my truck. Acts like Florida Georgia Line are what I think is "bro country".
Most of what I listen to is 2010-present, though I have songs on my playlist as old as 1976.
Quote from: thspfc on April 04, 2023, 10:37:55 AM
Most of what I listen to is 2010-present, though I have songs on my playlist as old as 1976.
Heh. I have songs on my playlist from 1723. :)
I have my MP3 library very meticulously catalogued. I got that idea from shows like 'American Top 40' and from when I worked on my college radio station. I wrote a program in FreeBASIC that creates playlists where the music is sorted by category. It uses something like a format wheel. It will alternate between modern rock, R&B, and other music. It also alternates between 1978-84, 1985-91, and other years. But every alternating track is a wildcard, which could be from any category or year. It also makes a playlist log, so songs that were recently played won't come up again for a while.
I think the last time I used it, it said the average year for my music was 1986. But 1983 is my favorite year for '80s music.
Meanwhile, I'm over here waiting for Metallica's "72 Seasons" album to hit the stores.
"Modern country" -- often derisively referred to as "bro country" and personified by Florida Georgia Line?
I grew up listening to Johnny Cash and to be honest, the last country music I really got into was early Garth Brooks, Randy Travis, and the Kentucky Headhunters in the 1990s.
I do not enjoy songs about longing for a pickup truck or whatever fashion brand is in with certain groups.
I do enjoy other songs from those genres that at least have some substance or are fun to listen to. I've also got plenty of indie artists in my algorithm-recommended playlists when I tire of what I already have in my library.
Quote from: hbelkins on April 04, 2023, 04:49:39 PM
Meanwhile, I'm over here waiting for Metallica's "72 Seasons" album to hit the stores.
"Modern country" -- often derisively referred to as "bro country" and personified by Florida Georgia Line?
I grew up listening to Johnny Cash and to be honest, the last country music I really got into was early Garth Brooks, Randy Travis, and the Kentucky Headhunters in the 1990s.
I listen to very little country, but can listen to Johnny Cash or Garth Brooks any time. Almost nothing else appeals to me unless it dips into the bluegrass side of things.
Quote from: thspfc on April 04, 2023, 10:37:55 AM
Most of what I listen to is 2010-present, though I have songs on my playlist as old as 1976.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLqfXlIq6RE
Country and rap share a feature that puts me off: lyrics extolling ignorance.
Not every song of course, there are some hip hop songs with smart lyrics and every so often I can find a country song with something intelligent to say, but enough to stereotype the genres as celebrating being an ignoramus.
Quote from: 7/8 on April 03, 2023, 03:48:45 PM
I still think of the 2000's as "modern music" (maybe because I listened to so much 70's and 80's music growing up), but if I use a definition of 2010's/2020's for modern, here are some artists I like, sorted by genre:
- Bedroom Pop: Jay Som
- Dream Pop: Atmos Bloom, Beach Fossils, Beach House, Castlebeat, Day Wave, Fazerdaze, Hazel English, Lunar Isles, No Vacation, Real Estate, Ruby Haunt, Swimming Tapes, Turnover, Wild Nothing
- Indie Rock: Arcade Fire, Boy Pablo, Death Cab for Cutie, Goth Babe, Kings of Leon, Mac DeMarco, The National, Of Monsters and Men, Softer Still
- Chillwave (not 100% sure, there's no Wikipedia article for these): Attom, EMBRZ
- Country: Chris Stapleton, Colter Wall, Taylor Swift
- Deep House: Lane 8, Ocula, Sultan and Shepard
- Electropop/house: Madeon, Porter Robinson
- Folk: Gregory Alan Isakov
- Lofi: Nom Tunes, Pr4ntik, Project AER, Refeeld, Tophat Panda, Yoann Garel
- Psychedelic Pop/Rock: Tame Impala
- Shoegaze: DIIV, Slowdive, Whirr
- Synthwave: Com Truise
- Tropical House: Kygo
Who gives a fuck about genre? If you like it, listen to it. When you try to put everything in neat little boxes, you'll often find that they don't fit.
Quote from: bugo on April 04, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Who gives a fuck about genre? If you like it, listen to it. When you try to put everything in neat little boxes, you'll often find that they don't fit.
Right? I apparently have some sort of internal criteria for whether I like a song or not (I can't articulate most of it, but one of them is a good bassline). If a song 'ticks all the boxes' I'll add it to my rotation, regardless of what genre it is or when it was released.
I listen to modern music, although it's mainly rock, metal, or electronic. Pretty much all of the music I listen to is from after 2000.
Quote from: bugo on April 04, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Who gives a fuck about genre? If you like it, listen to it. When you try to put everything in neat little boxes, you'll often find that they don't fit.
Genres make it so you can easily find similar music. If you like artist X, you can find out what genre they are considered, and find other artists of that genre. And in the case of 7/8's post, it's much more useful for somebody reading it to know what kind of music an artist makes. One genre I listen to is chillwave, and I've heard of Attom, but not EMBRZ so I'll look them up later. If he just listed all of those artists as one wall of text, I would have no idea if any of the artists that I haven't heard of are something I might be interested in and wouldn't have searched any of them up.
I do agree that music often doesn't easily fit into any particular genre. I'd even argue that most music could fit into at least 2 genres. But categorizing music into vague categories is much better in my opinion than not doing it at all.
Quote from: bm7 on April 04, 2023, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: bugo on April 04, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Who gives a fuck about genre? If you like it, listen to it. When you try to put everything in neat little boxes, you'll often find that they don't fit.
Genres make it so you can easily find similar music. If you like artist X, you can find out what genre they are considered, and find other artists of that genre. And in the case of 7/8's post, it's much more useful for somebody reading it to know what kind of music an artist makes. One genre I listen to is chillwave, and I've heard of Attom, but not EMBRZ so I'll look them up later. If he just listed all of those artists as one wall of text, I would have no idea if any of the artists that I haven't heard of are something I might be interested in and wouldn't have searched any of them up.
I do agree that music often doesn't easily fit into any particular genre. I'd even argue that most music could fit into at least 2 genres. But categorizing music into vague categories is much better in my opinion than not doing it at all.
Thank you, yes I thought of it as a helpful way to show people the general style of music each artist plays, since many of them aren't too well known. I didn't intend to imply that one should limit their music taste by genre.
Regarding EMBRZ, a few songs I would recommend are Where You Are, Rise, Lights, Heartlines, and the "Spirit Reset" EP. If you have a few artist suggestions for me I'd be happy to hear some. :)
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 04, 2023, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: bugo on April 04, 2023, 06:40:13 PM
Who gives a fuck about genre? If you like it, listen to it. When you try to put everything in neat little boxes, you'll often find that they don't fit.
Right? I apparently have some sort of internal criteria for whether I like a song or not (I can't articulate most of it, but one of them is a good bassline). If a song 'ticks all the boxes' I'll add it to my rotation, regardless of what genre it is or when it was released.
I also don't care about genre. Pop, rock, rap, country, classical... if I like a song, I listen to it.
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 04, 2023, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on April 03, 2023, 05:30:05 PM
I listen to, and enjoy lots of modern country music, as well as a large amount of modern pop. My favorite/most listened to artist, OneRepublic, has a good amount of modern pop music in their Human album (2021).
Those dudes used to be regulars at one of the restaurants I ran. Super nice guys. We had a random Pandora station playing one night and one of their songs came on and they just started belting it out in the middle of the restaurant.
I Lived is in my top 10 songs of all time.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on April 04, 2023, 05:47:17 PM
Country and rap share a feature that puts me off: lyrics extolling ignorance.
Not every song of course, there are some hip hop songs with smart lyrics and every so often I can find a country song with something intelligent to say, but enough to stereotype the genres as celebrating being an ignoramus.
There's so much bad rap music that the good is hard to find. And IMO, there's hardly any rappers who consistently make good songs - even the most popular ones have one or two songs I like, and I've listened to their other stuff but it's just not good (Kendrick, Kanye, Travis Scott, 50 Cent, Youngboy fall in that category for me).
The thing about genre is that it's often somewhat vague or unapparent to me what a given genre is. For example, the Gaslight Anthem are unquestionably a rock band, yet some of the various tagging services characterize them as "alternative." I'm not really even sure what "alternative" means, and I think it's somewhat amorphous because once upon a time REM were considered alternative, yet they unquestionably became mainstream in the late 1980s/early 1990s at the height of their popularity.
Quote from: thspfc on April 05, 2023, 08:04:03 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 04, 2023, 09:20:47 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on April 03, 2023, 05:30:05 PM
I listen to, and enjoy lots of modern country music, as well as a large amount of modern pop. My favorite/most listened to artist, OneRepublic, has a good amount of modern pop music in their Human album (2021).
Those dudes used to be regulars at one of the restaurants I ran. Super nice guys. We had a random Pandora station playing one night and one of their songs came on and they just started belting it out in the middle of the restaurant.
I Lived is in my top 10 songs of all time.
I Lived is in my top 1 song of all time. :)
I like some of Taylor's music. I like her current hit, Anti-Hero and songs from her 1989 Album and the song Willow from 2020 Evermore album.
Most modern music isn't that good. There isn't much beyond Post Malone, Doja Cat and Lizzo that I care about.
I'm the only one here that has ever been President of a Blues (music) Society.
So there. :evilgrin: :-P :nod: