While we still dont know what is going to be in it after several moths there are hints and here they are
https://www.pjstar.com/news/20190908/fulton-county-leaders-say-route-24-expansion-will-help-community
Route 24 is more attainable than 336
https://www.pontiacdailyleader.com/news/20190905/route-24-one-step-closer-to-four-lane-highway
https://www.sj-r.com/news/20190403/illinois-125-improvements-get-under-way-with-tree-removal
this is ongoing next to a section that is reported to be 4 laned
What of 20?
https://www.journalstandard.com/news/20180203/safety-upgrades-sought-for-us-20-west-of-freeport
The End of Route 30
https://www.saukvalley.com/2017/03/11/u-s-route-30-expansion-plans-near-morrison-halted/a32ll91/
Illinois 29 and US 34?
Quote from: 3467 on September 30, 2019, 03:21:02 PM
While we still dont know what is going to be in it after several moths there are hints and here they are
https://www.pjstar.com/news/20190908/fulton-county-leaders-say-route-24-expansion-will-help-community
Route 24 is more attainable than 336
https://www.pontiacdailyleader.com/news/20190905/route-24-one-step-closer-to-four-lane-highway
https://www.sj-r.com/news/20190403/illinois-125-improvements-get-under-way-with-tree-removal
this is ongoing next to a section that is reported to be 4 laned
What of 20?
https://www.journalstandard.com/news/20180203/safety-upgrades-sought-for-us-20-west-of-freeport
The End of Route 30
https://www.saukvalley.com/2017/03/11/u-s-route-30-expansion-plans-near-morrison-halted/a32ll91/
Illinois 29 and US 34?
This is a good summary of the local press related to the new road money.
The story about Morrison and US30 is interesting.
IDOT shows the route traffic declining. Some residents "like" the traffic coming through town because it brings business through. This was an argument in Lebanon as well on the US 50 bypass.
People don't like the reduction in safety that large trucks traversing their downtowns cause, but they don't want to lose the business they bring.
I have been reading some materials about how the decline of the American industrial base is changing highway traffic patterns. That routes considered "long term" post WWII are no longer valid. Even ones thought to be strategic as late as the 1970's before the oil shock threw highway planning to the wind.
Also some states are funding bypasses to shed secondary routes through some towns and turning them over to county highway authorities and get them off their books. Indiana has been "dumping" several through town highways once their bypasses were done.
That decision to route funding to US-24 southwest of Peoria to Banner is a direct counter to the priorities set to fund IL-336 via Farmington and then south to the west of Canton to meet up with the future Macomb Bypass and US-67. That exit on I-474 was built for that purpose.
But if IDOT turns US-24 into a freeway to Banner, then why build the Farmington route? I would simply take it the rest of the way to Macomb with a routing south of Canton. IDOT probably can't afford both.
I have studied the changes in manufacturing too. There is a good discussion of the waves of change in Chicago in the history of the Crosstown. Now there are only 60000 in the city with them percent of more at the Ford plant. In summary that save was from old multi story buildings to the suburbs and sunbelt. Most studies show trade with China was the only time trade did give us a huge hit mostly in clothing and electronics . Two extremes of the tech spectrum. The Midwest hit was less than Texas and CalIfornia. The Economic Policy institute has a good series on US China trade.Also mergers and continuing automation are a big factor.
There have been some articles especially Bloomberg getting at the real issue in the GM strike. With the switch batteries a lot less jobs and a much less complex supply chain.
I think Fulton county made a deal and this should end 336 . Just a guess
There has been a real turn against by passes in small towns. Perhaps the long fight over the Roseville bypass and after it it became clear that the town was wiped out.
If IDOT was smart it would do what Iowa did on the rest of US 30.
Quote from: 3467 on September 30, 2019, 03:21:02 PM
What of 20?
https://www.journalstandard.com/news/20180203/safety-upgrades-sought-for-us-20-west-of-freeport
A target for tolling?
There was supposed to financial study ...in 2014. It's inn the website. Sweeny wrote about that too. He was about the only reported who covered it and he died.
I thought about FOIA to see if there is any corridor protection.
Things may slow because of the investigation. WGN radio had a story that they can't find any state senators willing to talk about it.
Quote from: 3467 on October 08, 2019, 07:18:00 PM
There was supposed to financial study ...in 2014. It's inn the website. Sweeny wrote about that too. He was about the only reported who covered it and he died.
I thought about FOIA to see if there is any corridor protection.
Things may slow because of the investigation. WGN radio had a story that they can't find any state senators willing to talk about it.
Omerta. Nobody wants to say nothing to nobody, else they might get put on the federal bus.
Quote from: 3467 on October 07, 2019, 09:30:16 PM
I have studied the changes in manufacturing too. There is a good discussion of the waves of change in Chicago in the history of the Crosstown. Now there are only 60000 in the city with them percent of more at the Ford plant. In summary that save was from old multi story buildings to the suburbs and sunbelt. Most studies show trade with China was the only time trade did give us a huge hit mostly in clothing and electronics . Two extremes of the tech spectrum. The Midwest hit was less than Texas and CalIfornia. The Economic Policy institute has a good series on US China trade.Also mergers and continuing automation are a big factor.
There have been some articles especially Bloomberg getting at the real issue in the GM strike. With the switch batteries a lot less jobs and a much less complex supply chain.
I think Fulton county made a deal and this should end 336 . Just a guess
There has been a real turn against by passes in small towns. Perhaps the long fight over the Roseville bypass and after it it became clear that the town was wiped out.
If IDOT was smart it would do what Iowa did on the rest of US 30.
The rep for Spoon River Development said they were pushing IDOT for "both" IL-336 and US-24 expansion.
Knowing IDOT, they took the biggest bang for the buck approach.
IL-336 is a full land acquisition, design and build project.
I am surmising that IDOT owns most of the needed ROW along US-24. And if I go by appearances, IL-9 from Banner to Canton is in way better shape than US-24 south of Banner.
While I don't have the AADT for Canton to Kingston Mines, I can guess that a lot of people drive from Canton to work at the Cat plant on 24.
IDOT has the land for 24.
She said she wanted both but 24 was more attainable which makes me think some sort of choice was made.?
Quote from: 3467 on October 09, 2019, 10:26:58 AM
She said she wanted both but 24 was more attainable which makes me think some sort of choice was made.?
Attainable because IDOT already has most of the land for 24.
For IL-336, they don't.
They did have corridor protection but there is a drop off off traffic to hear zero after Banner on 24 and 9 and 116. The cost was high on 336. They could add passing lanes on all those routes and benefit a lot more communities than just 336.
Quote from: 3467 on October 09, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
They did have corridor protection but there is a drop off off traffic to hear zero after Banner on 24 and 9 and 116. The cost was high on 336. They could add passing lanes on all those routes and benefit a lot more communities than just 336.
US-24 got all new pavement in the summer of 2018 from IL-9 all the way to IL-78. Not sure which year you are looking at, but it might explain the near zero traffic south of Banner.
http://www.idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/transportation-management/transportation-improvement-programs-/multi-modal-transportation-improvement-program/index
I thought I would go over some of the major downstate projects in the plan. I went over the southern Illinois projects in southern Illinois noted in Ohio Valley.
Interesting in what is gone. No 20 freeway and nothing on Illinois 29 and 336.
There is the four lane expansion of 24 between Banner and Kingston Mines.
67 gets a new bridge on a 4 lane ROW but nothing more except a lot of replacing and reconstruction especially in northern Warren county
Warren and Henderson County get more 4 lanes between Biggsville and Kirkwood. It's gets extensive repaving all the way to the Chicago area where it's expansion is funded.
20 does get 3 lanes from 4 miles West of Stockton .
IL 2 gets reconstruction and passing lanes from Byron to meat the bypass of Rockford.
80 gets a new bridge going into Iowa and 280 gets a new deck. There is extensive repaving and reconstruction. I will look over the Chicago projects later unless someone else beats me.
I talked to someone involved with 24 and I think we can put 336 in fictional
Here are the downstate expansion projects.
Dist. 2 IL 2 is a reconstruction that adds passing lanes 72.5 million for 10.6 miles
US 20 4.07 miles passing lane 22.9 million
D 3 2 sections of IL 47 6.5 m 108.1 million.
Interesting reconstruction on US 34 and IL 23 turn lanes ?
D 4 IDOTese is hard to decipher. New shoulders on 67 expansion Paved ? Who can tell.
US 24 4 lane 8.1 miles 124.9 million. I came up with a lower figure than IDOT by itemizing.
US 34 4.56 miles of 4 lane for 53.3 million.
D 6 The new US 67 bridge 2 lane on 4 lane ROW for 65.5 million 1.41 miles long.Includes approaches.
Finally Illinois 97 4 lane near Springfield though is called a reconstruction.
I put the South of 72 projects in Ohio Valley.
Chicago did not get all the money by any means though the money to fix crumbling 80 is a big big part. But nothing major for Stevenson or IKE and not much for the arterials.
Il 47 gets 6.3 miles in Kane and McHenry
IL 31 6.3 miles
Lake has expansion of 3 m for 60/83 a mile of 120 and 2.5 131.
Dupage gets a couple of miles of 6 lane on 56.
There is a lot of new shoulders reconstruction and intersections statewide. Lots of needed bridge work.
I am going to post the cost per mile of different projects from 4 lane to resurface on the General. I have not seen construction costs in a while.
Finally there is the arterial expansions that are still in featured projects in the webpage but clearly don't.
I mentioned IL 336 which quietly passed in favor of 24 in IDOTs passive aggressive way.
US 30 officially gone though IDOT held out passing lanes which would match Iowa but they locals will have to keep on them
IL 29 and US 20 probably are passively aggressively dead. No work so they would need major EIS rework according to Rick Powell.
Any info on these lost souls I mean roads is appreciated.
34 and 67 live on in the above mentioned project
Sorry for different posts but I did each by subject because I know the people here all have different interests
This way you don't have to go though all 990 pages like I just did.
Quote from: 3467 on October 31, 2019, 02:20:50 PM
I put the South of 72 projects in Ohio Valley.
Chicago did not get all the money by any means though the money to fix crumbling 80 is a big big part. But nothing major for Stevenson or IKE and not much for the arterials.
Il 47 gets 6.3 miles in Kane and McHenry
IL 31 6.3 miles
Lake has expansion of 3 m for 60/83 a mile of 120 and 2.5 131.
Dupage gets a couple of miles of 6 lane on 56.
There is a lot of new shoulders reconstruction and intersections statewide. Lots of needed bridge work.
I am going to post the cost per mile of different projects from 4 lane to resurface on the General. I have not seen construction costs in a while.
You missed IL137 being 4 laned from Peterson to IL83 at a redesigned intersection. This would make IL137 at least 4 lanes through its entirety except for a short stretch of two lane in North Chicago.
US41 will get a new bridge over deerpath Rd, a new interchange at IL176 and 6 laned from IL176 to IL137.
Thanks sure I missed something. . I also didn't go through all the local and un numbered
Right now it looks like 20 29 and 336 would have to start their EIS over again. I wonder if we discuss them as upgraded or passing lanes since I DOT is building some on 20 and mentioned them for the officially cancelled 30 Iowa is doing the same on the other side of the river.
It's up to the moderators of course. But it would be nice if I DOT would say if they are done or if any corridor protection is cancelled like the Prairie Parkway.
I am going to say that 34 and 67 still live because of current construction.
Quote from: 3467 on November 02, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Right now it looks like 20 29 and 336 would have to start their EIS over again. I wonder if we discuss them as upgraded or passing lanes since I DOT is building some on 20 and mentioned them for the officially cancelled 30 Iowa is doing the same on the other side of the river.
It's up to the moderators of course. But it would be nice if I DOT would say if they are done or if any corridor protection is cancelled like the Prairie Parkway.
I am going to say that 34 and 67 still live because of current construction.
If they update US-24, then I can't see any dough for IL-336 for at least 5-7 years at best. 20 years, typically.
Honestly I think its odd that US-20 is 4 lane from Middlebury, Indiana to Sioux City, Iowa except 2 spots in Illinois. Freeport to Dubuque, West Elgin to Belvidere. West Elgin is fine due to the NW Tollway, but the wrecks on the Freeport-Dubuque ROW is inexcusable.
They talk about opening up Galena tourism, but then pour money into an Amtrak subsidy instead.
My source on this pretty much said 336 is done. The route ended up pleasing no one especially Bushnell which saw it being more like a 4 lane like 67 where it would follow Illinois 9. IDiOT picked magically the old supplementary freeway route which became mind boggling expensive .
As for 20 they started making it 3 lane and stopped. I think when the freeway system ended the plan I know was to 3 lane 67 north of Monmouth and 29 . I suspect that was the plan with 20. It would be great if I DOT would do that.
Quote from: 3467 on November 04, 2019, 12:20:26 PM
My source on this pretty much said 336 is done. The route ended up pleasing no one especially Bushnell which saw it being more like a 4 lane like 67 where it would follow Illinois 9. IDiOT picked magically the old supplementary freeway route which became mind boggling expensive .
As for 20 they started making it 3 lane and stopped. I think when the freeway system ended the plan I know was to 3 lane 67 north of Monmouth and 29 . I suspect that was the plan with 20. It would be great if I DOT would do that.
Good. None of 336 should have ever been built, the focus should have been entirely on 67.
Also, if anything, 20 should simply be scaled back to a 4 lane expressway utilizing the existing corridor where possible.
Quote from: I-39 on November 07, 2019, 07:09:50 AM
Quote from: 3467 on November 04, 2019, 12:20:26 PM
My source on this pretty much said 336 is done. The route ended up pleasing no one especially Bushnell which saw it being more like a 4 lane like 67 where it would follow Illinois 9. IDiOT picked magically the old supplementary freeway route which became mind boggling expensive .
As for 20 they started making it 3 lane and stopped. I think when the freeway system ended the plan I know was to 3 lane 67 north of Monmouth and 29 . I suspect that was the plan with 20. It would be great if I DOT would do that.
Good. None of 336 should have ever been built, the focus should have been entirely on 67.
336 should be Decommissioned if the Macomb-Peoria segment is never to be constructed
Quote from: edwaleni on November 03, 2019, 07:40:33 PM
Honestly I think its odd that US-20 is 4 lane from Middlebury, Indiana to Sioux City, Iowa except 2 spots in Illinois. Freeport to Dubuque, West Elgin to Belvidere. West Elgin is fine due to the NW Tollway, but the wrecks on the Freeport-Dubuque ROW is inexcusable.
They talk about opening up Galena tourism, but then pour money into an Amtrak subsidy instead.
I'd really like to know the history on that section of US-20 between Elgin and Belvidere. It's like the DOT didn't care or know how to properly route a federal highway....it takes so many awkward turns
The Wikipedia article has its history. Illinois often left the old routes and numbers on roads that paralleled the Interstates. 39 and 51 is an obvious exception because I DOT moved 51 before it got the interstate designation .
36 and 72 are another example. Unlike 39 the remembering fight had a long and complicated history. 336 made sense as a spur of Us 36 but now with 72 and 110 and no chance of extension it is a pointless concurrency.
Quote from: sandwalk on November 07, 2019, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on November 03, 2019, 07:40:33 PM
Honestly I think its odd that US-20 is 4 lane from Middlebury, Indiana to Sioux City, Iowa except 2 spots in Illinois. Freeport to Dubuque, West Elgin to Belvidere. West Elgin is fine due to the NW Tollway, but the wrecks on the Freeport-Dubuque ROW is inexcusable.
They talk about opening up Galena tourism, but then pour money into an Amtrak subsidy instead.
I'd really like to know the history on that section of US-20 between Elgin and Belvidere. It's like the DOT didn't care or know how to properly route a federal highway....it takes so many awkward turns
Northwest (Jane Addams) Tollway pretty much nixed the plans IDOT had for US-20 from Elgin to Belvidere.
IDOT was moving along on the part of US-20 between Northlake and Elgin but as road funding came to an abrupt slowdown in 1973, it sat stalled at Lake Street in Itasca for a long time. When the Elgin-OHare finally got funded and opened to Lake Street in Bartlett, people were kind of mystified why a federal highway didn't have a number for many years. People thought IDOT would just move US-20 over because that was the plan to begin with.
As it stands today, after years and years of funding ROW acquisition, IDOT now owns almost 90% of the ROW to complete the Bartlett to IL-59 section of US-20 to freeway standards. When done that would have made US-20 a limited access freeway for 90% of the route to Elgin. A small section between IL-59 and Villa Avenue has met with local opposition and in perpetual delay.
West of Elgin, US-20 follows what has been a series of reroutes and redirects since the 1920's.
In 1924, US-20 west used to come out of Elgin on Highland Avenue cosigned as IL-5. Turned onto Reinking Road and merged with Big Timber Road. West of Marengo it has also taken several variations.
Then by 1929, they rerouted 20 down Larkin Avenue and built a new route that went through Pingree Grove and 20 crossed the former Milwaukee Road tracks there, instead of on Highland. It then went up Reinking Road and turned west at what is now Big Timber Road.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039450436_d9cc20bdde_z.jpg)
By 1932, they moved it again and built a south bypass of Pingree Grove and took it to cross the tracks just west of Starks.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039665057_455438c1c3_z.jpg)
By 1940 the route was pretty stable between downtown Elgin and Starks.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039665002_a2da64edf6_z.jpg)
After the end of WWII and until 1959 things began to change again at both ends of US 20. Before, IL-47 swung to cross the MILW at grade with US-20 west of Starks.
Now a new underpass of the MILW tracks was built and US-20 was swung over to go under with IL-47 through Starks.
On the Belvidere end, US-20 no longer took a abrupt left in downtown using State Street and came through Cherry Valley to reach Rockford.
A new ROW was built which redirected US-20 out of the north end of Belvidere (which today is Busn US-20) which was State Street north and then turned west.
And of course the Northwest Tollway was built.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039664922_a7ee5e59a8_z.jpg)
By the 1970's, the US-20 Bypass of Elgin was completed to the south of town and reconnected with the prior 2 lane route at Larkin Ave and Randall Road and the 4 lane extended to east of Plank Road.
On the Belvidere side a new US-20 Bypass of Belvidere and Rockford was built on top of the old Cherry Valley route and connected with Harrison Street in Rockford, this became part of the Rockford "outer loop" tying in Harrison (US-20) on the East, Springfield on the west side and Riverside on the north side. A newer bypass was built by extending the Tollway/Cherry Valley exit around the south side of Rockford which of course goes all the way to Freeport.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49038944398_af5f5b5a87_z.jpg)
So as far as i can tell, the only part of US-20 that is still on the "original" 1924 route is from Big Timber Road NE of Hampshire to the Logan Ave intersection SE of Belvidere.
Of note, Big Timber Road between US-20 and Reinking Road has a wide ROW. I always wondered why it had such broad property lines and major utilities along the road. I remember asking my dad when he would shortcut through Pingree Grove to avoid the traffic lights at Starks, he said, "because this is the old 20". Unfortunately the City of Pingree Grove have allowed a developer to cut off that shortcut and you have to stop.
If IDOT needs to improve traffic flow at Starks with the convergence of US-20, IL-47 and IL-72 (Higgins), they better get off the pot. That area is blooming very quickly.
Quote from: edwaleni on November 09, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
If IDOT needs to improve traffic flow at Starks with the convergence of US-20, IL-47 and IL-72 (Higgins), they better get off the pot. That area is blooming very quickly.
IDOT's not going to do anything to Starks. They just finished up redoing the signals there and adding more turn lane storage space at the two intersections.
Quote from: edwaleni on November 09, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
Quote from: sandwalk on November 07, 2019, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: edwaleni on November 03, 2019, 07:40:33 PM
Honestly I think its odd that US-20 is 4 lane from Middlebury, Indiana to Sioux City, Iowa except 2 spots in Illinois. Freeport to Dubuque, West Elgin to Belvidere. West Elgin is fine due to the NW Tollway, but the wrecks on the Freeport-Dubuque ROW is inexcusable.
They talk about opening up Galena tourism, but then pour money into an Amtrak subsidy instead.
I'd really like to know the history on that section of US-20 between Elgin and Belvidere. It's like the DOT didn't care or know how to properly route a federal highway....it takes so many awkward turns
Northwest (Jane Addams) Tollway pretty much nixed the plans IDOT had for US-20 from Elgin to Belvidere.
IDOT was moving along on the part of US-20 between Northlake and Elgin but as road funding came to an abrupt slowdown in 1973, it sat stalled at Lake Street in Itasca for a long time. When the Elgin-OHare finally got funded and opened to Lake Street in Bartlett, people were kind of mystified why a federal highway didn't have a number for many years. People thought IDOT would just move US-20 over because that was the plan to begin with.
As it stands today, after years and years of funding ROW acquisition, IDOT now owns almost 90% of the ROW to complete the Bartlett to IL-59 section of US-20 to freeway standards. When done that would have made US-20 a limited access freeway for 90% of the route to Elgin. A small section between IL-59 and Villa Avenue has met with local opposition and in perpetual delay.
West of Elgin, US-20 follows what has been a series of reroutes and redirects since the 1920's.
In 1924, US-20 west used to come out of Elgin on Highland Avenue cosigned as IL-5. Turned onto Reinking Road and merged with Big Timber Road. West of Marengo it has also taken several variations.
Then by 1929, they rerouted 20 down Larkin Avenue and built a new route that went through Pingree Grove and 20 crossed the former Milwaukee Road tracks there, instead of on Highland. It then went up Reinking Road and turned west at what is now Big Timber Road.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039450436_d9cc20bdde_z.jpg)
By 1932, they moved it again and built a south bypass of Pingree Grove and took it to cross the tracks just west of Starks.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039665057_455438c1c3_z.jpg)
By 1940 the route was pretty stable between downtown Elgin and Starks.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039665002_a2da64edf6_z.jpg)
After the end of WWII and until 1959 things began to change again at both ends of US 20. Before, IL-47 swung to cross the MILW at grade with US-20 west of Starks.
Now a new underpass of the MILW tracks was built and US-20 was swung over to go under with IL-47 through Starks.
On the Belvidere end, US-20 no longer took a abrupt left in downtown using State Street and came through Cherry Valley to reach Rockford.
A new ROW was built which redirected US-20 out of the north end of Belvidere (which today is Busn US-20) which was State Street north and then turned west.
And of course the Northwest Tollway was built.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49039664922_a7ee5e59a8_z.jpg)
By the 1970's, the US-20 Bypass of Elgin was completed to the south of town and reconnected with the prior 2 lane route at Larkin Ave and Randall Road and the 4 lane extended to east of Plank Road.
On the Belvidere side a new US-20 Bypass of Belvidere and Rockford was built on top of the old Cherry Valley route and connected with Harrison Street in Rockford, this became part of the Rockford "outer loop" tying in Harrison (US-20) on the East, Springfield on the west side and Riverside on the north side. A newer bypass was built by extending the Tollway/Cherry Valley exit around the south side of Rockford which of course goes all the way to Freeport.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49038944398_af5f5b5a87_z.jpg)
So as far as i can tell, the only part of US-20 that is still on the "original" 1924 route is from Big Timber Road NE of Hampshire to the Logan Ave intersection SE of Belvidere.
Of note, Big Timber Road between US-20 and Reinking Road has a wide ROW. I always wondered why it had such broad property lines and major utilities along the road. I remember asking my dad when he would shortcut through Pingree Grove to avoid the traffic lights at Starks, he said, "because this is the old 20". Unfortunately the City of Pingree Grove have allowed a developer to cut off that shortcut and you have to stop.
If IDOT needs to improve traffic flow at Starks with the convergence of US-20, IL-47 and IL-72 (Higgins), they better get off the pot. That area is blooming very quickly.
Thank you for the detailed history! Very interesting read. I used to live in the area for several years and was always curious why the routes were the way they were. Thanks!
This was excellent.
Always enjoyed my trips to the Plank Road Tap Room in Udina.
While going through the plan I noticed we really covered the arterials well ...But I noticed something missing in the expressways.
Nothing about the add lanes or managed lanes on the Stevenson or Ike. Here is a vague Phase 1 on the the Ike from Manheim to Racine. Other than that nothing.
Anyone know about that.
Quote from: 3467 on November 25, 2019, 08:58:27 PM
While going through the plan I noticed we really covered the arterials well ...But I noticed something missing in the expressways.
Nothing about the add lanes or managed lanes on the Stevenson or Ike. Here is a vague Phase 1 on the the Ike from Manheim to Racine. Other than that nothing.
Anyone know about that.
What you see is correct, and also add in no funding for Lake Shore Drive North rebuild. The I-55 add lanes on the Stevenson is closest to a break even proposition with adding electronic toll lanes because it's all inside existing right of way and little rebuilding of the existing facility is needed, but until the legislation is enacted to allow the project to move forward as a P3 (or some other mechanism) it will have to wait. The other projects represent a substantial capital investment.
With the scandal I don't see that happening for a while.
As we discussed the suburban arterials got a few miles here and there. I moved most of the downstate projects to Southern Illinois Notes.
There were only two projects North of 74
Illinois 29 which has had nothing done since its EIS in 2009 . It would have to start over anyway. You had mentioned D4 was more interested inning road but nothing for that expensive project.
Replacement of 336 with 24 is in southern.
The other is 20 and it's getting more passing lanes. I assume the freeway is dead then?
Feel free to include any pics or other information on these projects . It's not real exciting stuff but there isn't much. There is the I 80 bridge and 6 lanes so let's welcome that here.