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D-Dey65

#3150
Quote from: formulanone on April 20, 2021, 12:34:17 AM
Quote from: democratic nole on April 19, 2021, 10:38:03 PM
Essentially the entire world, and 30 states (that contain well over a majority of the U.S. population) all require front and back license plates. It continues to make me laugh that so many in this country have such a strong aversion to front plates.

Besides the added expense, I worry about getting singled out for driving a legal one-plate car in two-plate states, though honestly...it hasn't happened to me yet.
Well, I've been singled out by a Hernando County Deputy Sheriff for not having a registration sticker on my New York license plates. That lady didn't even know that New York stopped putting them on license plates for passenger cars and commercial vehicles before she was born.


Hey, I've got another subject I want to bring up; Can anybody try to figure out if there are any possible design flaws on our interstates that might be causing all these people to drive the wrong way on these roads?



Sani

Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 02, 2021, 10:25:36 PMHey, I've got another subject I want to bring up; Can anybody try to figure out if there are any possible design flaws on our interstates that might be causing all these people to drive the wrong way on these roads?

The National Transportation Safety Board did a Special Investigation Report (PDF link) in 2012 about causes and potential solutions for wrong-way drivers. The main findings were:

  • More than half, and possibly as many as three-quarters, of wrong-way drivers are impaired by alcohol.
  • Drivers over the age of 70 are over-represented as at-fault drivers in wrong-way collisions compared to other types of controlled-access highway accidents.
  • The primary origin of wrong-way movements (when the origin can be determined) is entering an exit ramp.
  • Wrong-way collisions occur more frequently at night; 78 percent of fatal wrong-way collisions occurred between 6:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.
  • A disproportionate number of wrong-way collisions occur on the weekends.
  • Most wrong-way collisions occur in the lane closest to the median (number one lane).
The recommended solutions involve addressing drunk driving, improved testing of older drivers to assess their continued fitness to drive, and improvements to signage and lighting at common entry points, like exit ramps.

roadman65

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51153604972
Untypical way FDOT here chose to sign the two routes from Florida Avenue in Lakeland.

Usually they would assign one assembly.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

btl1016

Update on the FL-Turnpike widening project from Osceola Parkway to SR-528:

- All 4 Northbound lanes are now open from Osceola Parkway to SR-528 (goes down to 3 lanes once you pass 528)

- Southbound still only has 2 lanes open.

- Turnpike-417 flyover ramps are still not open yet.

lepidopteran

In Ft. Lauderdale, the eastbound Marina Mile Blvd bridge (SR-84) over I-95 is going to be demolished and rebuilt.  As such, they are expecting traffic delays for the next year.  With both directions of route 84 using the westbound bridge, some motorists wishing will need to take a detour involving a U-turn. 

This is all to help make way for the I-95 express lanes.  Details here

formulanone

Quote from: lepidopteran on May 05, 2021, 02:12:24 AM
In Ft. Lauderdale, the eastbound Marina Mile Blvd bridge (SR-84) over I-95 is going to be demolished and rebuilt.  As such, they are expecting traffic delays for the next year.  With both directions of route 84 using the westbound bridge, some motorists wishing will need to take a detour involving a U-turn. 

This is all to help make way for the I-95 express lanes.  Details here

That looks like a fun detour if you have a sports car and there's no other traffic, and an extra annoyance for any other situation. Two loop ramps from US 441.

I actually don't think there is that much traffic in that short western stretch of SR 84 between I-595 and I-95; a few inland marinas, a truck shop, and not much else. The SR 84 ramp from northbound I-95 was a little overbuilt, but it also dates from a time before I-595 was completed, so SR 84 acted as the major east-west corridor in the area.

Avalanchez71

They completely destroyed an entire municipality (Village of Hacienda Village) when they built I-595 atop SR 84.

roadman65

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on May 05, 2021, 11:18:19 AM
They completely destroyed an entire municipality (Village of Hacienda Village) when they built I-595 atop SR 84.

Also Andytown is long gone.  It was a four way stop at US 27 and SR 84.


In news around the Sunshine State, CFX opened the Airport to SR 528 W Bound flyover ramp and closed the loop ramp there.   Not to mention the exit numbers are gone.  No more 1A for Sr 528 East and 1B for SR 528 West.  No number one either!  Just an APL beyond Cargo Road splitting the four lanes into two for SR 436 and the other two for SR 528 now.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

D-Dey65

I think the exit number for Forest Street and Riverside Avenue I-10 in Jacksonville shouldn't be a duplicate of I-95.


Dirt Roads

Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 06, 2021, 07:06:09 AM
I think the exit number for Forest Street and Riverside Avenue I-10 in Jacksonville shouldn't be a duplicate of I-95.

Do you mean the Stockton Street exit off of I-10 (Exit 362) having the same exit number as the I-295 Bypass exit near the airport (Exit 362 on I-95)?  Stockton Street off of I-95 is Exit 351C.  Forest Street/Riverside Street off of I-95 is Exit 352A.  Neither of these have a duplicate nearby on I-10, but there is a plain ole' Exit 352 on I-10 for Whitehouse.

Never noticed that I-95 and I-10 in Jax have similar mileposts.  The exit numbering was sequential when I lived there.  And those weren't even close.

formulanone

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Quote from: Avalanchez71 on May 05, 2021, 11:18:19 AM
They completely destroyed an entire municipality (Village of Hacienda Village) when they built I-595 atop SR 84.

It was no big loss, honestly. Locals would bring it up as if a massive piece of history was destroyed but it was a mobile home park, some junkyards, and a bunch of crooked cops.

Avalanchez71

Quote from: formulanone on May 06, 2021, 08:32:13 AM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on May 05, 2021, 11:18:19 AM
They completely destroyed an entire municipality (Village of Hacienda Village) when they built I-595 atop SR 84.

It was no big loss, honestly. Locals would bring it up as if a massive piece of history was destroyed but it was a mobile home park, some junkyards, and a bunch of crooked cops.

I had a county map from about 1984 and I remember seeing a trailer park and something else as to the extent of the village.

D-Dey65

#3162
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 06, 2021, 08:08:39 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 06, 2021, 07:06:09 AM
I think the exit number for Forest Street and Riverside Avenue I-10 in Jacksonville shouldn't be a duplicate of I-95.

Do you mean the Stockton Street exit off of I-10 (Exit 362) having the same exit number as the I-295 Bypass exit near the airport (Exit 362 on I-95)?  Stockton Street off of I-95 is Exit 351C.  Forest Street/Riverside Street off of I-95 is Exit 352A.  Neither of these have a duplicate nearby on I-10, but there is a plain ole' Exit 352 on I-10 for Whitehouse.

Never noticed that I-95 and I-10 in Jax have similar mileposts.  The exit numbering was sequential when I lived there.  And those weren't even close.
No, I mean Forest and Riverside having the same exit number on I-10 as it does on I-95. On I-10 you've got Exit 362 followed by Exit 352A,  whereas on I-95 the numerical order is a little more consistent (SB I-95, where Exit 352B is followed by Exit 352A).  Assuming that the ramp to Forest and Riverside is one mile away, or close enough to it, the exit number should be 363.


Region 7 made the same mistake with the new off-ramp from I-275 to FL 56, until I called them up and recommended they used Exit 59 instead.


NE2

There's no exit from I-10 to Forest/Riverside. It's an exit from the ramp to I-95 north.
pre-1945 Florida route log

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D-Dey65

#3164
Quote from: NE2 on May 07, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
There's no exit from I-10 to Forest/Riverside. It's an exit from the ramp to I-95 north.
Yes, the ramp to I-95. But it's still from I-10, not I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.320467,-81.6830383,3a,75y,82.49h,90.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_A2tqVWqEQPHnoYvqtzzHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en




Dirt Roads

Quote from: NE2 on May 07, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
There's no exit from I-10 to Forest/Riverside. It's an exit from the ramp to I-95 north.

Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 07, 2021, 12:10:55 AM
Yes, the ramp to I-95. But it's still from I-10, not I-95.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.320467,-81.6830383,3a,75y,82.49h,90.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_A2tqVWqEQPHnoYvqtzzHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Agreed.  I worked on the Skyway back about 10 years ago, so I was all over this area but I didn't ever get a chance to take this ramp.  When I lived there back in the mid-1980s, this was the section where I-95 southbound was only one-lane wide from the I-10 split approaching the Fuller Warren drawbridge. 

D-Dey65


formulanone

#3167
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 10, 2021, 09:58:04 AM
You know, I used to think this sign was along westbound I-10 approaching Alabama:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alabama_Welcome_Center_Sign_(15641641838).jpg

Now, I'm finding that hard to believe:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5710105,-87.4033115,3a,75y,281.46h,81.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9w9AxTv6bySrGkw9lcnYtw!2e0!5s20190901T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en


I was northbound on US 231 in January 2013 when I took that photo. It's rare to see a sign for another state's welcome center. The welcome center is very close to the state line.

Here's another photo of that sign from another Flickr member > https://flic.kr/p/9vUQUY

clef

Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 10, 2021, 09:58:04 AM
You know, I used to think this sign was along westbound I-10 approaching Alabama:

That sign is also gone from GSV but you can find it if you go back some years.

asdfjkll

Quote from: clef on May 10, 2021, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 10, 2021, 09:58:04 AM
You know, I used to think this sign was along westbound I-10 approaching Alabama:

That sign is also gone from GSV but you can find it if you go back some years.
That sign appears to have been replaced in 2013 with a newer sign further up the road past that curve in the background.

D-Dey65

Quote from: formulanone on May 10, 2021, 11:16:06 AM
I was northbound on US 231 in January 2013 when I took that photo. It's rare to see a sign for another state's welcome center. The welcome center is very close to the state line.

Here's another photo of that sign from another Flickr member > https://flic.kr/p/9vUQUY


Hey, thanks for the tip. I know of some other signs for the southbound I-95 North Carolina Welcome Center in Virginia:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Two_Miles_to_I-95_NC_Welcome_Center_in_VA.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SB_I-95_NC_Welcome_Center_sign_in_VA.jpg

Also on US 17 south of Kingsland, Georgia, you'll find signs for the Florida Agricultural Inspection Station north of the St. Mary's River.




D-Dey65

I need some Gainesville info; When were all the truck routes of Florida State Roads 24, 26, 121, and US 441 established? I haven't found a single link about them on the web.

rickmastfan67

Has anybody been on FL-46 as of late in the Wekiva Parkway construction area?

OSM is showing that FL-46 has been realigned onto the Wekiva alignment between Old CR-46A & Exit 44 and would like some confirmation on this so I can update TM's FL-46 file with this change.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/28.8137/-81.4929

btl1016


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