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Started by Alex, April 07, 2009, 01:22:25 PM

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froggie

It got mentioned through the GGW channels a week or two ago that something was afoot with that.  I don't recall if it was discussion about an upcoming meeting or if a meeting had already taken place.

I do know of a couple articles that were written on the subject a few years ago.  I had also come up with my own concept (that I'm pretty sure I posted in the Fictional Highways folder).


abefroman329

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
Dave Dildine of WTOP just tweeted a link to the following story about a proposal to close Rock Creek Parkway south of Virginia Avenue (past the Kennedy Center) to motorized vehicles and to divert motorized traffic to the I-66 stub. Surely that would require some road reconfiguration to be practical, given how (1) I-66 access at the Virginia Avenue end is primarily via 27 Street and (2) there is no access to Memorial Bridge from south/westbound I-66 (you have to use Rock Creek Parkway or 23 Street).

https://currentnewspapers.com/ancs-suggest-closing-parkway-to-cars-in-front-of-kennedy-center/

I'm trying to decide if that is more or less dumb than tearing down the Whitehurst Freeway.

cpzilliacus

Quote from: abefroman329 on November 17, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
Dave Dildine of WTOP just tweeted a link to the following story about a proposal to close Rock Creek Parkway south of Virginia Avenue (past the Kennedy Center) to motorized vehicles and to divert motorized traffic to the I-66 stub. Surely that would require some road reconfiguration to be practical, given how (1) I-66 access at the Virginia Avenue end is primarily via 27 Street and (2) there is no access to Memorial Bridge from south/westbound I-66 (you have to use Rock Creek Parkway or 23 Street).

https://currentnewspapers.com/ancs-suggest-closing-parkway-to-cars-in-front-of-kennedy-center/

I'm trying to decide if that is more or less dumb than tearing down the Whitehurst Freeway.

This would likely increase traffic congestion along the entire West End of D.C., which can be bad even on weekends. 

This is not normally a way that I drive, but I was through there last Saturday morning on the way to VDOT in Fairfax, and the queue of traffic waiting on the southbound Rock Creek Parkway to make the left onto Virginia Avenue, N.W., then onto I Street, N.W. after crossing 27th Street to reach I-66 was pretty intense. 
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abefroman329

Quote from: cpzilliacus on November 17, 2017, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 17, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 17, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
Dave Dildine of WTOP just tweeted a link to the following story about a proposal to close Rock Creek Parkway south of Virginia Avenue (past the Kennedy Center) to motorized vehicles and to divert motorized traffic to the I-66 stub. Surely that would require some road reconfiguration to be practical, given how (1) I-66 access at the Virginia Avenue end is primarily via 27 Street and (2) there is no access to Memorial Bridge from south/westbound I-66 (you have to use Rock Creek Parkway or 23 Street).

https://currentnewspapers.com/ancs-suggest-closing-parkway-to-cars-in-front-of-kennedy-center/

I'm trying to decide if that is more or less dumb than tearing down the Whitehurst Freeway.

This would likely increase traffic congestion along the entire West End of D.C., which can be bad even on weekends. 

This is not normally a way that I drive, but I was through there last Saturday morning on the way to VDOT in Fairfax, and the queue of traffic waiting on the southbound Rock Creek Parkway to make the left onto Virginia Avenue, N.W., then onto I Street, N.W. after crossing 27th Street to reach I-66 was pretty intense.

Yes, it's always a giant mess there.  I used to take the stretch of Rock Creek Parkway that's being proposed for closure to get to I-395 south when I lived Adams Morgan or Columbia Heights, and I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

wdcrft63


HTM Duke

Nothing earth shattering, but dDOT has finally posted NORTH US-29 shields prior to and at the exit to the Whitehurst Frwy from the inbound Key Bridge.
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cpzilliacus

Washington Post: South Capitol Street project promises a new bridge – and new life – for Anacostia

QuoteThe Frederick Douglass Memorial Bridge, one of the District's busiest commuter gateways, is past its life span. The bridge over the Anacostia River is decaying. Corrosion has eaten holes through the thick steel beams that were installed nearly 70 years ago, and despite a major overhaul in 2007, it continues to deteriorate.

QuoteA mammoth construction project to replace the bridge kicked off last month, promising a new bridge in 2021. The project also will remake part of South Capitol Street into a scenic boulevard and improve the Suitland Parkway and Interstate 295 interchanges.

QuoteIt's the end of an era for a span that carries 70,000 drivers daily. But the new bridge and redeveloped community will not come without pain.
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Rothman

A new bridge means new life for Anacostia?  Dang, they really are getting sold a bridge. :D
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oscar

Quote from: Rothman on March 04, 2018, 12:02:15 PM
A new bridge means new life for Anacostia?  Dang, they really are getting sold a bridge. :D

I thought the new 11th Street Bridges across the Anacostia (including a separate bridge for local traffic) were supposed to serve that purpose.
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Jmiles32

Its about time this project finally gets underway. Seems like they've been talking about it forever.
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Beltway

Quote from: oscar on March 04, 2018, 12:06:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 04, 2018, 12:02:15 PM
A new bridge means new life for Anacostia?  Dang, they really are getting sold a bridge. :D
I thought the new 11th Street Bridges across the Anacostia (including a separate bridge for local traffic) were supposed to serve that purpose.

Different corridor.  The new 11th Street Bridges were not intended to replace the South Capital Street Bridge. 

It is nice to finally see D.C. making some major highway and bridge expansions.
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Beltway

I see on Google Maps Satellite View that the new 11th Street Bridges on I-695 have shoulders only about 3 feet wide.  I wonder how they got FHWA approval on that feature.
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cpzilliacus

Quote from: Rothman on March 04, 2018, 12:02:15 PM
A new bridge means new life for Anacostia?  Dang, they really are getting sold a bridge. :D

The presence of the headquarters complex of the  Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has helped Anacostia.  The other large federal facility in that part of town is Joint Base Anacostia, which is literally fenced-off from the entire rest of D.C.  The DHS headquarters also has a fence around it with guards at the entrances, but it is not as isolated.
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1995hoo

There's  new sports facility going up somewhere in Anacostia as well. I believe the basketball teams will both practice there and the WNBA team will play their home games there. I wonder what relocating from Verizon Center to Anacostia will do to their attendance. I'm sure it won't help.
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davewiecking

Fort Myer Construction Sues the District Again. Issue with bids related to work on ramps at east end of Sousa Bridge. My favorite quote from the article:

"The Contract Appeals Board dismissed Fort Myer's protest on a pair of technical grounds that they claim made the protest both premature and too late, according to the sometimes mind-boggling rules that govern the District's bid protest process."

https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/article/20996412/fort-myer-construction-sues-the-district-again

machpost

Quote from: Rothman on March 04, 2018, 12:02:15 PM
A new bridge means new life for Anacostia?  Dang, they really are getting sold a bridge. :D

The District of Columbia is growing by around 1,000 new residents per month, and the city's boundaries aren't going to be expanded anytime soon. So it's just a matter of time until neighborhoods east of the Anacostia start growing at a greater pace.

BrianP

https://wtop.com/dc-transit/2018/05/falling-sign-causes-delays-695-dc/
QuoteA sign coming off of its post above the westbound Southeast Freeway/Interstate 695 in D.C. caused delays Tuesday morning as commuters snapped photos and transportation crews responded to the scene.

They make it sound like a whole sign is falling down.  But it's just one panel of the sign. 

It looks like this sign is the one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.881361,-77.0078636,3a,60y,292.54h,86.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6sGiaeuYFKSKzl6_CEGY8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

abefroman329

Dammit, I thought it was the famous sign on I-66 that's covered with plywood.

cpzilliacus

Quote from: BrianP on May 01, 2018, 10:02:33 AM
https://wtop.com/dc-transit/2018/05/falling-sign-causes-delays-695-dc/
QuoteA sign coming off of its post above the westbound Southeast Freeway/Interstate 695 in D.C. caused delays Tuesday morning as commuters snapped photos and transportation crews responded to the scene.

They make it sound like a whole sign is falling down.  But it's just one panel of the sign. 

It looks like this sign is the one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.881361,-77.0078636,3a,60y,292.54h,86.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6sGiaeuYFKSKzl6_CEGY8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This caused delays this morning back into Maryland on both the I-295 and DC-295 (MD-201) corridors.
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Mergingtraffic

#819
Isn't there an upcoming sign project to replace all of those including this gem?

I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
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froggie

https://twitter.com/DildineWTOP/status/1032639913773199362

(Hats off to our own Mike Tantillo as well, who was interviewed by Dave for the upcoming story)

1995hoo

#821
I knew those signs were coming down soon, but I didn't know when. At least we get to see something.

http://twitter.com/dildinewtop/status/1032641138874834944?s=21


http://twitter.com/dildinewtop/status/1032704386127028227?s=21
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Roadsguy

Interesting that I-695 was to be signed north-south rather than east-west. Even ignoring the section east of downtown that was only recently signed, the 66-395 segment is still more east-west than north-south.
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abefroman329

Quote from: Roadsguy on August 23, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
Interesting that I-695 was to be signed north-south rather than east-west. Even ignoring the section east of downtown that was only recently signed, the 66-395 segment is still more east-west than north-south.
Youd be traveling cardinal south at that point, maybe it would have been signed east-west after turning to run along Independence.

1995hoo

BTW, froggie, thanks for retweeting Dildine's tweet–while I follow him, I hadn't looked at Twitter in a few hours and would have missed it until looking here.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.



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