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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1525 on: June 27, 2022, 11:10:31 PM »

I remember for a while on some parts of the Jersey barrier they would put those slats to block opposing lights. I think this was an NJDOT thing they did in the piece between 129 and 140 they controlled. That's been gone for a long time sadly.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1526 on: June 27, 2022, 11:12:24 PM »

I remember for a while on some parts of the Jersey barrier they would put those slats to block opposing lights. I think this was an NJDOT thing they did in the piece between 129 and 140 they controlled. That's been gone for a long time sadly.
The green slats?  Not just a NJDOT thing.  We've got a thread on their locations somewhere.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1527 on: June 27, 2022, 11:56:34 PM »

I remember for a while on some parts of the Jersey barrier they would put those slats to block opposing lights. I think this was an NJDOT thing they did in the piece between 129 and 140 they controlled. That's been gone for a long time sadly.
The green slats?  Not just a NJDOT thing.  We've got a thread on their locations somewhere.

Yeah, other states do them as well. I drove down to Florida yesterday and today and there were parts of 95 in North Carolina with them. I was speaking specifically of their use on the Garden State Parkway in this instance.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1528 on: June 28, 2022, 12:31:05 AM »

I remember for a while on some parts of the Jersey barrier they would put those slats to block opposing lights. I think this was an NJDOT thing they did in the piece between 129 and 140 they controlled. That's been gone for a long time sadly.
The green slats?  Not just a NJDOT thing.  We've got a thread on their locations somewhere.

Yeah, other states do them as well. I drove down to Florida yesterday and today and there were parts of 95 in North Carolina with them. I was speaking specifically of their use on the Garden State Parkway in this instance.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1529 on: July 19, 2022, 09:03:19 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gudBMA8EXSUZ2UMJA
Whatís up with this non Parkway overhead assembly?
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1530 on: July 19, 2022, 10:29:14 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gudBMA8EXSUZ2UMJA
Whatís up with this non Parkway overhead assembly?

No idea. At one point I felt like they recycled a structure that was still structurally sound and not due for replacement and mounted it on one of their big ole concrete pads they like to use for their sign structures. I am almost certainly completely wrong on that tho.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1531 on: July 19, 2022, 11:08:19 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/ZCP6daVaukeozbHK8

Another oddity. I see the SB entrance ramp fro Avalon Blvd in Middle Township is in the median of the Parkway instead of on the outside.


One thing though itís one of few interchanges that uses control cities from the side road. https://goo.gl/maps/RxwHjaQgFQG5sWnP7
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1532 on: July 19, 2022, 02:37:55 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/ZCP6daVaukeozbHK8

Another oddity. I see the SB entrance ramp fro Avalon Blvd in Middle Township is in the median of the Parkway instead of on the outside.


One thing though itís one of few interchanges that uses control cities from the side road. https://goo.gl/maps/RxwHjaQgFQG5sWnP7

Not sure about the exit 13 onramp. Thought they did that possibly as an add-on to complete missing movements, but that's been that way since the Parkway opened it looks like. Quite possibly to avoid the wetlands on the other side of the roadway, or maybe land takings from someone who didn't want to sell?
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1533 on: July 19, 2022, 06:23:10 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/ZCP6daVaukeozbHK8

Another oddity. I see the SB entrance ramp fro Avalon Blvd in Middle Township is in the median of the Parkway instead of on the outside.


One thing though itís one of few interchanges that uses control cities from the side road. https://goo.gl/maps/RxwHjaQgFQG5sWnP7

I couldn't explain why, but when the Parkway was built here, it was briefly a 2 lane road using the southbound lanes, so that ramp would have been a northbound offramp. Even stranger, the northbound onramp was built in the proper place with it cutting across the future northbound ROW and joining the southbound mainline.

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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1534 on: July 19, 2022, 07:29:03 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gudBMA8EXSUZ2UMJA
Whatís up with this non Parkway overhead assembly?

No idea. At one point I felt like they recycled a structure that was still structurally sound and not due for replacement and mounted it on one of their big ole concrete pads they like to use for their sign structures. I am almost certainly completely wrong on that tho.

It was installed when they replaced the signs and re-numbered the exits in the area back in 2015. Prior to that, there was only a gore sign for that exit. I'm surprised the exit has remained open, but closing it and using 22 West is no longer an option as left turns soon to be prohibited at Ingersoll Terr. onto Morris Ave.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1535 on: July 19, 2022, 07:35:07 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gudBMA8EXSUZ2UMJA
Whatís up with this non Parkway overhead assembly?

No idea. At one point I felt like they recycled a structure that was still structurally sound and not due for replacement and mounted it on one of their big ole concrete pads they like to use for their sign structures. I am almost certainly completely wrong on that tho.

It was installed when they replaced the signs and re-numbered the exits in the area back in 2015. Prior to that, there was only a gore sign for that exit. I'm surprised the exit has remained open, but closing it and using 22 West is no longer an option as left turns soon to be prohibited at Ingersoll Terr. onto Morris Ave.

They should really signalized Ingersoll Terrace at Morris Avenue and eliminate both ramps to NJ 82 West.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1536 on: July 20, 2022, 03:00:48 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/gudBMA8EXSUZ2UMJA
Whatís up with this non Parkway overhead assembly?

No idea. At one point I felt like they recycled a structure that was still structurally sound and not due for replacement and mounted it on one of their big ole concrete pads they like to use for their sign structures. I am almost certainly completely wrong on that tho.

It was installed when they replaced the signs and re-numbered the exits in the area back in 2015. Prior to that, there was only a gore sign for that exit. I'm surprised the exit has remained open, but closing it and using 22 West is no longer an option as left turns soon to be prohibited at Ingersoll Terr. onto Morris Ave.

They should really signalized Ingersoll Terrace at Morris Avenue and eliminate both ramps to NJ 82 West.

I've wanted them to do that for a while now, but sadly NJDOT and Union Township have never seemed to want to do that at all.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1537 on: July 20, 2022, 03:31:21 PM »

That seems like a No brainer.  Considering on the other side they want you to head east on NJ 82, UTurn at Lowes and then use the existing ramps from NJ 82 WB to US 22 to make a simple u turn from EB US 22 to WB Us 22 that poses no danger to anyone, this wou,d come directly to NJDOT and Union Township.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1538 on: July 21, 2022, 11:46:51 PM »

That seems like a No brainer.  Considering on the other side they want you to head east on NJ 82, UTurn at Lowes and then use the existing ramps from NJ 82 WB to US 22 to make a simple u turn from EB US 22 to WB Us 22 that poses no danger to anyone, this wou,d come directly to NJDOT and Union Township.
If it was gonna happen, it'd be happening with the currently ongoing 22/82 bridge replacements. It's not, so that tells you it's not a consideration.

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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1539 on: July 22, 2022, 08:10:25 AM »

Currently there are flyover ramp replacements for Exit 105, so the SB Express lanes exit is closed.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1540 on: July 22, 2022, 05:58:22 PM »

Exit 44 BGS going northbound: it appears that they have used STICKERS for the CR-561 ALT shield?? It's peeling off!

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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1541 on: July 22, 2022, 10:19:39 PM »

https://www.state.nj.us/transportation/uploads/comm/pubmeet/details/Handbook_20210610_113045_2021-05-24RT22-82-GSP-FD-ReforestPICFlyer.pdf

This page says what is proposed. If they decided not to go with the removal of the u turns is more the better.  I am glad that they took it off the consideration for possible reconfiguration.


I still say signalizing the Ingersoll Terrace and Morris  Avenue intersection could eliminate the 140 A ramp and left turn Route 22 exit for NJ 82 real well.  I donít know the accidents rate, but I will guess there is a limited sight distance under the Parkway coming off that insight ramp.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1542 on: August 02, 2022, 10:59:02 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/Ff3yU5qXM1M5GAjN6

I couldnít help notice this sign in Union directing folks to the SB GSP on Vauxhall Road, that lacks a SB ramp to the highway.

Considering that Oakland Avenue goes nowhere near the Parkway and itís probably directing you to use nearby Union Avenue that does have a ramp to it, I would think this assembly here is not needed.  Especially with previous US 22 which connects more directly, this sign would only really help those who missed the turn at US 22.  Considering that, itís hard to believe toll money would be wasted for this.

https://goo.gl/maps/1my8z8qKcRp3aQwS9

Itís even better the opposite way. It also directs you to use Oakland rather than US 22 which is just ahead with more direct access.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1543 on: August 02, 2022, 02:13:17 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/Ff3yU5qXM1M5GAjN6

I couldnít help notice this sign in Union directing folks to the SB GSP on Vauxhall Road, that lacks a SB ramp to the highway.

Considering that Oakland Avenue goes nowhere near the Parkway and itís probably directing you to use nearby Union Avenue that does have a ramp to it, I would think this assembly here is not needed.  Especially with previous US 22 which connects more directly, this sign would only really help those who missed the turn at US 22.  Considering that, itís hard to believe toll money would be wasted for this.

https://goo.gl/maps/1my8z8qKcRp3aQwS9

Itís even better the opposite way. It also directs you to use Oakland rather than US 22 which is just ahead with more direct access.

Correct, it will take you out all the way to Union Ave where there is an onramp. Remember this dates from the time before the Union plaza was converted to one way tolling. This put you on the Parkway north of the Union Plaza so they would collect their 35 cents. People in the know will go to down to 22 westbound and pick up the Parkway there, but that's not what the Highway Authority wanted historically.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1544 on: August 03, 2022, 06:24:37 PM »

Yes the good olí sucker. We still have it today, but itís called a GPS sending you on toll roads to get to another place.   


Though donít know how as you can avoid the tolls on your device.   I have found the map gives you a heads up, yet people complain th the toll collectors about not expecting to be on the toll road despite signage.  Oh yes how can you miss an overhead sign? Oh wait, the drivers blame not knowing the roads as an excuse to ignore large sign or any signs.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1545 on: August 03, 2022, 08:36:32 PM »

Reupload of the Exit 44 BGS photo; that one also doesn't seem to appear anymore.

https://flic.kr/p/2nC71xv
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1546 on: August 09, 2022, 03:36:45 AM »

Yes the good olí sucker. We still have it today, but itís called a GPS sending you on toll roads to get to another place.   


Though donít know how as you can avoid the tolls on your device.   I have found the map gives you a heads up, yet people complain th the toll collectors about not expecting to be on the toll road despite signage.  Oh yes how can you miss an overhead sign? Oh wait, the drivers blame not knowing the roads as an excuse to ignore large sign or any signs.

Just goes to show how people don't know when and how to keep their eyes outside the windshield. You can put up a billions signs advising of a certain road condition and people will complain about how they didn't see anything about it.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1547 on: August 10, 2022, 07:51:38 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/WL83dbyVQzLjoqrLA

I see now the speed limit across The Great Egg Harbor Bridge is 65 mph as the older bridge only carried 45 mph.

https://goo.gl/maps/QWsg374pBTUyxc7a6
Also the original NB span raised its limit as well.
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1548 on: August 10, 2022, 07:58:57 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/WL83dbyVQzLjoqrLA

I see now the speed limit across The Great Egg Harbor Bridge is 65 mph as the older bridge only carried 45 mph.

Even more impressive is the NB side is 2 lanes no shoulders and 65 mph also. https://maps.app.goo.gl/HpwmM87wgscwGRPeA
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Re: Garden State Parkway
« Reply #1549 on: August 10, 2022, 08:56:38 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/WL83dbyVQzLjoqrLA

I see now the speed limit across The Great Egg Harbor Bridge is 65 mph as the older bridge only carried 45 mph.

Even more impressive is the NB side is 2 lanes no shoulders and 65 mph also. https://maps.app.goo.gl/HpwmM87wgscwGRPeA

Yeah that's a little sketch, but maybe they decided the risk of accidents from some people slowing down for the reduced limit while others didn't was greater than the risk of accidents from the lack of shoulders.
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