California

[Max Rockatansky]

And that's a negative for Front Street.  101 Business is signed on southbound US 101 approaching the Front Street exit though. 

[pderocco]

I-5 N/CA-126 exit is poorly signed as of now. I was getting off I-5 N to take CA-126 W when I noticed there was no BGS at the gore point. The only thing that exists to let you know the junction is coming up is a pull-through sign about 1000 feet beforehand. Then, the exit just comes up. The good thing is I already know where to get off having done this so many times, but for new motorists it may be confusing.

There's a GSV from last month showing a temporary orange gore point exit sign, but, when I was there, that orange sign was gone.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.4398881,-118.5987944,3a,30.5y,300.69h,88.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-v6c0uYNIfTYQaMDwIw82g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Well, it is a major construction zone right now.

I went through there too, last Friday, and was surprised how far north they're widening it. Looks like it's all the way to Ridge Route Rd.

[jander]

Does anyone know how to find the map/list of county maintained roads in Marin County?

https://publicworks.marincounty.org/#/city/answers/jurisdiction-roads/how-do-i-know-if-my-road-is-county-maintained

This link goes to a Generic map, not a road map.

Specifically looking for information on Telephone Road, in Nicassio.

[pderocco]

If you click on a point, it tells you what jurisdiction it's in. It looks like Telephone Rd is in an unincorporated area.

[jander]

If you click on a point, it tells you what jurisdiction it's in. It looks like Telephone Rd is in an unincorporated area.

Yeah, I dont care what jurisdiction its in. I want to know if its a country maintained road or not.

Which Marin couture should be able to tell me.

If its a county maintained road, I can ride my bike on it. If Its private I can get shot at. Big difference

[kkt]

Call the Sheriff's office nonemergency number during business hours?

[Max Rockatansky]

There what appears to be "no trespassing" signs from Point Reyes-Petaluma Road. 

[cahwyguy]

Does anyone know how to find the map/list of county maintained roads in Marin County?

https://publicworks.marincounty.org/#/city/answers/jurisdiction-roads/how-do-i-know-if-my-road-is-county-maintained

This link goes to a Generic map, not a road map.

Specifically looking for information on Telephone Road, in Nicassio.

Here are two additional maps of interest:

Marin Map Viewer: https://www.marinmap.org/dnn/ . As there is no address for telephone road, start near Point Reyes Station and work your way there. THis shows you the assessor parcel.

There's also the Marin County GIS Open Data: https://gisopendata.marincounty.gov/ . You'll need to search for the right map. Try the Roads database: https://gisopendata.marincounty.gov/datasets/marincounty::roads/explore . There, when I click on Telephone Road (near Pt Reyes Station), I get:

OBJECTID   11182   
FeDirP      
FeName   Telephone   
FeType   Rd   
FeDirS      
CFCC   A51   
FrAddL   0   
ToAddL   0   
FrAddR   0   
ToAddR   0   
ZipL   94956   
ZipR   94956   
Jurisdiction      
sPMSKey      
Street_Nam   Telephone Rd   
DivDir      
UniqueID   11,182   
PFrAddL   201   
PToAddL   299   
PFrAddR   200   
PToAddR   298   
FunctionalClass   VT   
City   Unincorporated   
UpdateDate   December 3, 2023   
UpdateUserName   maringis_admin   
EditComment   null   
CreateUserName   maringis_admin   
CreateDate   December 3, 2023   
CalTransClassification   null   
LocalClassification   null   
LocalRoadNumber   null   
RoadLevel   0   
Shape__Length   13,049.29

Whereas Shoreline Highway (which is Route 1, and thus state maintained) gives:

FrAddL   12,191   
ToAddL   12,595   
FrAddR   12,430   
ToAddR   12,710   
ZipL   94956   
ZipR   94956   
Jurisdiction      
sPMSKey      
Street_Nam   Shoreline Hwy   
DivDir      
UniqueID   10,725   
PFrAddL   12,151   
PToAddL   12,999   
PFrAddR   12,400   
PToAddR   12,798   
FunctionalClass   OF   
City   Unincorporated   
UpdateDate   December 3, 2023   
UpdateUserName   maringis_admin   
EditComment   null   
CreateUserName   maringis_admin   
CreateDate   December 3, 2023   
CalTransClassification   null   
LocalClassification   NotCountyMaintained   
LocalRoadNumber   null   
RoadLevel   0   
Shape__Length   4,347.824

And Bayview Street in Mill Valley gives:

OBJECTID   5065   
FeDirP      
FeName   Bayview   
FeType   Ave   
FeDirS      
CFCC   A41   
FrAddL   9   
ToAddL   29   
FrAddR   2   
ToAddR   30   
ZipL   94941   
ZipR   94941   
Jurisdiction   Mill Valley   
sPMSKey      
Street_Nam   Bayview Ave   
DivDir      
UniqueID   5,065   
PFrAddL   1   
PToAddL   29   
PFrAddR   2   
PToAddR   30   
FunctionalClass   L   
City   Mill Valley   
UpdateDate   December 3, 2023   
UpdateUserName   maringis_admin   
EditComment   null   
CreateUserName   maringis_admin   
CreateDate   December 3, 2023   
CalTransClassification   null   
LocalClassification   null   
LocalRoadNumber   null   
RoadLevel   0   
Shape__Length   545.327   

Perhaps this will help?

[cl94]

There what appears to be "no trespassing" signs from Point Reyes-Petaluma Road.

If that wasn't enough, Caltrans GIS says private. So yeah. Caltrans doesn't make it as easy to tell in their data as some other agencies do (thank you Nevada for making it easy), but it's there.

[bing101]

Interstate Kyle takes a Tour on CA-108 Sonora Pass.

[jander]

Does anyone know how to find the map/list of county maintained roads in Marin County?

https://publicworks.marincounty.org/#/city/answers/jurisdiction-roads/how-do-i-know-if-my-road-is-county-maintained

This link goes to a Generic map, not a road map.

Specifically looking for information on Telephone Road, in Nicassio.

Here are two additional maps of interest:

Marin Map Viewer: https://www.marinmap.org/dnn/ . As there is no address for telephone road, start near Point Reyes Station and work your way there. THis shows you the assessor parcel.

There's also the Marin County GIS Open Data: https://gisopendata.marincounty.gov/ . You'll need to search for the right map. Try the Roads database: https://gisopendata.marincounty.gov/datasets/marincounty::roads/explore . There, when I click on Telephone Road (near Pt Reyes Station), I get:

OBJECTID   11182   
FeDirP      
FeName   Telephone   
FeType   Rd   
FeDirS      
CFCC   A51   
FrAddL   0   
ToAddL   0   
FrAddR   0   
ToAddR   0   
ZipL   94956   
ZipR   94956   
Jurisdiction      
sPMSKey      
Street_Nam   Telephone Rd   
DivDir      
UniqueID   11,182   
PFrAddL   201   
PToAddL   299   
PFrAddR   200   
PToAddR   298   
FunctionalClass   VT   
City   Unincorporated   
UpdateDate   December 3, 2023   
UpdateUserName   maringis_admin   
EditComment   null   
CreateUserName   maringis_admin   
CreateDate   December 3, 2023   
CalTransClassification   null   
LocalClassification   null   
LocalRoadNumber   null   
RoadLevel   0   
Shape__Length   13,049.29

Whereas Shoreline Highway (which is Route 1, and thus state maintained) gives:

FrAddL   12,191   
ToAddL   12,595   
FrAddR   12,430   
ToAddR   12,710   
ZipL   94956   
ZipR   94956   
Jurisdiction      
sPMSKey      
Street_Nam   Shoreline Hwy   
DivDir      
UniqueID   10,725   
PFrAddL   12,151   
PToAddL   12,999   
PFrAddR   12,400   
PToAddR   12,798   
FunctionalClass   OF   
City   Unincorporated   
UpdateDate   December 3, 2023   
UpdateUserName   maringis_admin   
EditComment   null   
CreateUserName   maringis_admin   
CreateDate   December 3, 2023   
CalTransClassification   null   
LocalClassification   NotCountyMaintained   
LocalRoadNumber   null   
RoadLevel   0   
Shape__Length   4,347.824

And Bayview Street in Mill Valley gives:

OBJECTID   5065   
FeDirP      
FeName   Bayview   
FeType   Ave   
FeDirS      
CFCC   A41   
FrAddL   9   
ToAddL   29   
FrAddR   2   
ToAddR   30   
ZipL   94941   
ZipR   94941   
Jurisdiction   Mill Valley   
sPMSKey      
Street_Nam   Bayview Ave   
DivDir      
UniqueID   5,065   
PFrAddL   1   
PToAddL   29   
PFrAddR   2   
PToAddR   30   
FunctionalClass   L   
City   Mill Valley   
UpdateDate   December 3, 2023   
UpdateUserName   maringis_admin   
EditComment   null   
CreateUserName   maringis_admin   
CreateDate   December 3, 2023   
CalTransClassification   null   
LocalClassification   null   
LocalRoadNumber   null   
RoadLevel   0   
Shape__Length   545.327   

Perhaps this will help?

Thanks

[heynow415]

Does anyone know how to find the map/list of county maintained roads in Marin County?

https://publicworks.marincounty.org/#/city/answers/jurisdiction-roads/how-do-i-know-if-my-road-is-county-maintained

This link goes to a Generic map, not a road map.

Specifically looking for information on Telephone Road, in Nicassio.

Telephone Road is not County-maintained.  It's a private ranch road.

[Quillz]

Interstate Kyle takes a Tour on CA-108 Sonora Pass.

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I still need to do CA-4 and CA-88. Otherwise I've done all the Sierra crossings at least once. Sonora Pass is probably the most memorable for me. (As in, I must have completely spaced out driving US-50 because I did it around 2013 yet don't remember a thing about it).

[heynow415]

Interstate Kyle takes a Tour on CA-108 Sonora Pass.

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I still need to do CA-4 and CA-88. Otherwise I've done all the Sierra crossings at least once. Sonora Pass is probably the most memorable for me. (As in, I must have completely spaced out driving US-50 because I did it around 2013 yet don't remember a thing about it).

From either Stockton on the west or Minden, NV on the east, you can easily pick off both 88 and the Sierra portion of 4 as a loop connecting via 89 through Markleeville.  While great at any time, I definitely recommend the CA4 portion in October as the section east of Pacific Grade Summit to the 89 junction has lots of aspen trees which are spectacular when they turn in the fall.  A great ride on a motorcycle, towing a trailer not so much (4 has some narrow/1.5 lane and winding sections, though 88 is fine throughout).

[Alps]

Interstate Kyle takes a Tour on CA-108 Sonora Pass.

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I still need to do CA-4 and CA-88. Otherwise I've done all the Sierra crossings at least once. Sonora Pass is probably the most memorable for me. (As in, I must have completely spaced out driving US-50 because I did it around 2013 yet don't remember a thing about it).

Yeah, when I climbed Mt. Washington I stopped a couple of times to let the car chill out before I went again. I imagine similar here.

[cl94]

Interstate Kyle takes a Tour on CA-108 Sonora Pass.

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I still need to do CA-4 and CA-88. Otherwise I've done all the Sierra crossings at least once. Sonora Pass is probably the most memorable for me. (As in, I must have completely spaced out driving US-50 because I did it around 2013 yet don't remember a thing about it).

Yeah, when I climbed Mt. Washington I stopped a couple of times to let the car chill out before I went again. I imagine similar here.

The climb up to the pass from the east is less than you might expect. Only about 2800 feet, or half of Mount Washington. Sure, some of it gets up to 26%, but it's not that long of a climb. Now, you want to stop for photos your first time, but I have never had mechanical issues up there driving a well-maintained car at speed.

[pderocco]

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I've always thought that CA-108 and CA-120 over the mountains were about tied for beauty. They're quite different, but both spectacular.

[Voyager]

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I've always thought that CA-108 and CA-120 over the mountains were about tied for beauty. They're quite different, but both spectacular.

Sonora gets intense after a boring ride real quick, while Tioga has a longer and more gradual interesting direction through the mountains. I do love both though.

[Quillz]

Always a fun drive. I've done it a couple times but still, those 26% grades or so always catch me off-guard. The first time I did it, my oil light came on and so I ended up driving it really slow for fear of screwing up my engine (I didn't). The second time was earlier this year and there was still a fair bit of snow.

I've always thought that CA-108 and CA-120 over the mountains were about tied for beauty. They're quite different, but both spectacular.

I did Tioga Pass earlier this year and frankly, it wasn't as impressive as I remembered. There were some nice photo stops (I think it was Olmstead Point that gives a good view of Half Dome). And I really enjoyed the actual descent from the pass down to Lee Vining. But otherwise it was flatter than I was expecting, and not as scenic.

[Max Rockatansky]

The descent through Lee Vining Canyon is the better part of CA 120 by far.  I tend to prefer CA 4 given it has a lot of things to do, even if none of them would ever win "most scenic" as standalone items compared to the other passes.

[Voyager]

The descent through Lee Vining Canyon is the better part of CA 120 by far.  I tend to prefer CA 4 given it has a lot of things to do, even if none of them would ever win "most scenic" as standalone items compared to the other passes.

I've never actually taken it due to the one lane segments, what viewpoints/things to do am I missing? It's the only pass I haven't done.

[Max Rockatansky]

The descent through Lee Vining Canyon is the better part of CA 120 by far.  I tend to prefer CA 4 given it has a lot of things to do, even if none of them would ever win "most scenic" as standalone items compared to the other passes.

I've never actually taken it due to the one lane segments, what viewpoints/things to do am I missing? It's the only pass I haven't done.

I do enjoy Calaveras Big Tres State Park.  I listed a bunch of items in this blog:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2018/08/trans-sierra-highways-california-state.html?m=1

[Techknow]

I found some external exit tabs on CA 1 northbound at Pacifica! Not only are they (kinda oversized and the tab outline seems to be a bit incomplete) right side tabs, they seem to be new signs. They are NOT in Google Streetview, at least not yet as of Sep 2023. Sorry, I didn't spot any external exit tabs on BGSes, those seem to remain unchanged.





This is the location for the second sign, there's no sign there in the Sep 2023 streetview, but there was one in Feb 2018 so I guess it replaced that sign.

[pderocco]

The descent through Lee Vining Canyon is the better part of CA 120 by far.  I tend to prefer CA 4 given it has a lot of things to do, even if none of them would ever win "most scenic" as standalone items compared to the other passes.

I've never actually taken it due to the one lane segments, what viewpoints/things to do am I missing? It's the only pass I haven't done.

You shouldn't fear the one lane segments. They're not that narrow. They just don't have a stripe down the middle.

Unless you're driving an RV, that is.

[Max Rockatansky]

Even then you aren't likely to see an RV due to that 24% grade just east of Pacific Grade Summit.  The rest of the descent really isn't all that steep.  The roadway is definitely wide enough that two passenger vehicles can pass each other at any time.