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Title: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1064685,-80.045225,3a,60y,271.71h,86.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEIfAaB_Lvo6eVh4q9Fb3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: hotdogPi on March 13, 2021, 04:43:26 PM
Because the sun is directly overhead, making the underside dark (if it was at an angle, the sun would shine underneath).
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 13, 2021, 04:55:57 PM
It's not, in fact it would be in the running for most generic looking bridge ever.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 05:05:46 PM
There's no tubes in the middle.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 13, 2021, 05:11:39 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 05:05:46 PM
There's no tubes in the middle.

Support columns...

Anyways, yeah sounds like you need to get away from all this freeway and limited access jazz if you think that bridge is scary.  It's kind of hard to not roll my eyes when I know stuff like this is normal in my part of the world:

https://flic.kr/p/2he68hy

https://flic.kr/p/SiKzQT

Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:21:36 PM
The blackness of the shadow.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Road Hog on March 14, 2021, 12:26:32 AM
I didn't see any trolls hiding under the bridge, so nope, not scary.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on March 14, 2021, 12:23:04 PM
That bridge isn't scary.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Mapmikey on March 14, 2021, 01:20:29 PM
Though without piers, the bridge is not without peers in NC (ran across this one yesterday)...

https://goo.gl/maps/CxUGLS77NuDz3oVJ6
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 14, 2021, 02:45:03 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on March 14, 2021, 01:20:29 PM
Though without piers, the bridge is not without peers in NC (ran across this one yesterday)...

https://goo.gl/maps/CxUGLS77NuDz3oVJ6

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5458364,-77.4614648,3a,49.4y,289.15h,91.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1symsa9TvQ7TNdgnT8u4HG4Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dymsa9TvQ7TNdgnT8u4HG4Q%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D18.081856%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

Yeah, but it's not as long. This one is similar
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Big John on March 14, 2021, 06:15:23 PM
The bridges over I-39 south of I-80 in Illinois have no medial piers.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 15, 2021, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)

That one has made the rounds in road groups for years.  Cool sight line but nothing super exciting nor scary about the structure. 
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: MCRoads on March 15, 2021, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 15, 2021, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)

That one has made the rounds in road groups for years.  Cool sight line but nothing super exciting nor scary about the structure.
I-70 in the Rockies is about as steep. This just looks scary because it stands out so much more than a road in a mountain pass does. Looking at it from the side (https://goo.gl/maps/DaqiKQ5476sqJbnd7), it is completely normal.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Flint1979 on March 15, 2021, 03:48:11 PM
Yes it looks super scary I wouldn't ever consider crossing it lol.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: texaskdog on March 15, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1064685,-80.045225,3a,60y,271.71h,86.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEIfAaB_Lvo6eVh4q9Fb3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Watch out for trolls!!
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: texaskdog on March 15, 2021, 04:35:08 PM
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=scary+bridge+japan&atb=v247-6__&ia=images&iax=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.images.dailystar.co.uk%2Fdynamic%2F122%2Fphotos%2F693000%2F900x738%2FScariest-bridges-226693.jpg
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Bruce on March 15, 2021, 11:21:50 PM
Trolls are a good addition to any bridge.

(https://www.knkx.org/sites/kplu/files/styles/medium/public/201111/fremont_troll.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)
Does it have piers?
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:21:56 AM
Quote from: texaskdog on March 15, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1064685,-80.045225,3a,60y,271.71h,86.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEIfAaB_Lvo6eVh4q9Fb3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Watch out for trolls!!
How was NCDOT thinking when they made that bridge? People are gonna think that it will collapse! :rofl:
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)
Does it have piers?

No, extra scary.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)
Does it have piers?

No, extra scary.
Demolish and rebuild it!
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 12:32:22 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)
Does it have piers?

No, extra scary.
Demolish and rebuild it!

Then it would be a ghost bridge, even scarier! :wow:
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: SkyPesos on March 16, 2021, 12:37:19 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 16, 2021, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 15, 2021, 12:28:45 AM
Here's a bridge that actually looks scary
(https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5159095,133.1918723,3a,40.3y,61.21h,84.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipMhs4GzgEhM9auajkjAqbdzFuu5Zt_bvxir1Pmi!2e10!7i6720!8i3360)
Does it have piers?
No, but it has a troll, which all bridges need
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Scott5114 on March 16, 2021, 04:10:40 AM
It did 25 years in federal prison for a crime so heinous we dare not speak its name.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: triplemultiplex on March 16, 2021, 09:56:18 AM
My hypothesis about the tolbs's bridge:
The retaining walls make it look like a giant mouth you are about to drive into. :P
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: GaryV on March 16, 2021, 10:07:25 AM
Here's a bridge with piers, and it's a scary bridge too.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6934997,-117.1504169,1778m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 10:13:29 AM
Quote from: GaryV on March 16, 2021, 10:07:25 AM
Here's a bridge with piers, and it's a scary bridge too.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6934997,-117.1504169,1778m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Just in rush hour when traffic backing up from I-5 has you running late. 
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 08:29:40 PM
The actual Scary Bridge was on the Eel River at the future site of Avenue of the Giants:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/136640606405094/permalink/3808970702505381/
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: SkyPesos on March 16, 2021, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 08:29:40 PM
The actual Scary Bridge was on the Eel River at the future site of Avenue of the Giants:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/136640606405094/permalink/3808970702505381/
FritzOwl will designate that as I-666.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 16, 2021, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 08:29:40 PM
The actual Scary Bridge was on the Eel River at the future site of Avenue of the Giants:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/136640606405094/permalink/3808970702505381/
FritzOwl will designate that as I-666.

Actually, if I recall my AAroads lore I believe that I-366 would be in order since that is near Eureka and Ethanman.  Someone feel free to correct me if I mixing the backstories of Ethanman and I-366 with something else. 
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: SectorZ on March 16, 2021, 08:40:59 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on March 16, 2021, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 08:29:40 PM
The actual Scary Bridge was on the Eel River at the future site of Avenue of the Giants:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/136640606405094/permalink/3808970702505381/
FritzOwl will designate that as I-666.

Not until he twins it with an equally concerning structure parallel to it.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: roadman65 on March 16, 2021, 09:02:07 PM
The piers on this bridge have caps, and support heavy diesel locomotives.  I can't believe it supports trains at all.

https://goo.gl/maps/35kpZ8qU348suFQw8
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: kphoger on March 17, 2021, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 16, 2021, 09:02:07 PM
The piers on this bridge have caps, and support heavy diesel locomotives.  I can't believe it supports trains at all.

https://goo.gl/maps/35kpZ8qU348suFQw8

That's both the Orange Line L and the western end of the Ashland yard of the Norfolk Southern–the latter being a primary NS interchange yard for the BNSF and UP.  Something tells me the bridges are doing just fine.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 18, 2021, 12:20:52 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5814976,-76.103923,3a,59.2y,61.1h,80.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgHPrKJHbxxCg9MZnXDKfgA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DgHPrKJHbxxCg9MZnXDKfgA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D165.75334%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) bridge could also look scary. Narrow shoulders and they need widening I'm sure.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: CoreySamson on March 18, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
I think the scariest-looking bridge I've ever seen would have to be either of the two bridges in Cairo:
Ohio River Bridge:  (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9887677,-89.1512673,3a,75.6y,40.16h,84.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spp8qY1M_AyheWFGEYt7AIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Mississippi River Bridge: (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9863775,-89.1503229,3a,15y,165.67h,89.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D148.20317%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)

The scariest looking bridge I've ridden on would have to be the Intercoastal waterway bridge on LA 1 in Port Allen. Just look at these supports:
Link:  (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4337427,-91.2096139,3a,75y,263.11h,95.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHImQg0g2SQ2ErIIbL3ADTA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DHImQg0g2SQ2ErIIbL3ADTA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D0.35363242%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)

The scariest bridge I've driven across was probably this narrow 60-mph one:
FM-2611 over the San Bernard River: (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.9508485,-95.5542686,3a,75y,231.47h,85.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD3FJSZYHOpx8xmkn9YeVGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: kphoger on March 18, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 18, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
I think the scariest-looking bridge I've ever seen would have to be either of the two bridges in Cairo:
Ohio River Bridge:  (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9887677,-89.1512673,3a,75.6y,40.16h,84.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spp8qY1M_AyheWFGEYt7AIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Mississippi River Bridge: (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9863775,-89.1503229,3a,15y,165.67h,89.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D148.20317%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)

Scarier than the nearby mile-long Brookport Bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/GiUtzBMHHQ2nzqCbA), with the Ohio River–seventy feet down–visible (https://goo.gl/maps/qx9tn77FBVLu3mVB9) through the less-than-twenty-foot-wide steel deck?
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Mapmikey on March 18, 2021, 08:58:34 PM
That US 45 bridge is definitely scary...

Scariest ones I ever drove were the original 1929 Cooper River Bridge in Charleston SC.  Here is a 1953 photo that shows how steep it was at each end (also had a dip between spans - the bridge was 2 miles long) and how even trucks then took up the entire space.  Thankfully it was one-way and trucks were banned by the time I remember crossing it.
https://charlestonbusiness.com/core/files/scbiznews/uploads/images/Grace%20Bridge%20SCDOT%20photo.jpg

The other one is the original Albemarle Sound bridge on NC 32 which was replaced in the mid-2000s.  Very narrow and a popular route for semis.  I cannot find a photo of this bridge.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Dirt Roads on March 18, 2021, 09:20:18 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2021, 08:29:40 PM
The actual Scary Bridge was on the Eel River at the future site of Avenue of the Giants:

The way you capitalized Scary, I just had to chime in.  There's the Scary Bridge over Scary Creek on WV-817 just a mile south of the interchange with I-64.  Before I-64 came through, there used to be a Little Scary Bridge over Little Scary Creek right next to the interchange, but this was replaced with a large culvert during the Interstate construction.  According to county maps from the 1950s, Scary used to be an incorporated town (one of three little incorporated towns adjacent to Exit 44 and Exit 39 that seemingly disappeared about the time of Interstate construction, but I'm skeptical). 

Scary Bridge is not worth paying attention to, except for the submerged stone arch culvert for the former Chesapeake & Ohio Railway just upstream.  All of this is along the Kanawha River.  Before the completion of the Winfield Locks bypass in the late 1990s, the mean water level on the Kanawha was quite a bit lower and the stone arch was only partially submerged.  Scary Bridge is also home of the historical marker for the Battle of Scary.  Locals call this area "The Foot of Scary Hill".
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: CoreySamson on March 18, 2021, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 18, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 18, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
I think the scariest-looking bridge I've ever seen would have to be either of the two bridges in Cairo:
Ohio River Bridge:  (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9887677,-89.1512673,3a,75.6y,40.16h,84.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spp8qY1M_AyheWFGEYt7AIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Mississippi River Bridge: (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9863775,-89.1503229,3a,15y,165.67h,89.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D148.20317%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)

Scarier than the nearby mile-long Brookport Bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/GiUtzBMHHQ2nzqCbA), with the Ohio River–seventy feet down–visible (https://goo.gl/maps/qx9tn77FBVLu3mVB9) through the less-than-twenty-foot-wide steel deck?
Ok yikes! It never occurred to me that steel decks like that were actually open to the river below. The other two look scary to me because they are so tall and narrow.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Scott5114 on March 19, 2021, 02:20:22 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 18, 2021, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 18, 2021, 02:04:18 PM
I think the scariest-looking bridge I've ever seen would have to be either of the two bridges in Cairo:
Ohio River Bridge:  (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9887677,-89.1512673,3a,75.6y,40.16h,84.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spp8qY1M_AyheWFGEYt7AIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Mississippi River Bridge: (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9863775,-89.1503229,3a,15y,165.67h,89.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D83V7KN94_meqEmNg48Q-ZA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D148.20317%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)

Scarier than the nearby mile-long Brookport Bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/GiUtzBMHHQ2nzqCbA), with the Ohio River–seventy feet down–visible (https://goo.gl/maps/qx9tn77FBVLu3mVB9) through the less-than-twenty-foot-wide steel deck?

This is probably the only GSV link posted on this forum that's intentionally pointed at the ground...
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: jmacswimmer on March 19, 2021, 08:56:36 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 18, 2021, 12:20:52 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5814976,-76.103923,3a,59.2y,61.1h,80.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgHPrKJHbxxCg9MZnXDKfgA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DgHPrKJHbxxCg9MZnXDKfgA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D165.75334%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) bridge could also look scary. Narrow shoulders and they need widening I'm sure.

Both 1995hoo & I mentioned that JFK Highway stretch of I-95 in another thread and how drivers tend to have a right-lane aversion (which I think the Tydings Bridge contributes to):

Quote from: jmacswimmer on March 18, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 17, 2021, 06:12:17 PM
I have absolutely had that experience on I-95 in Maryland on more than one occasion, especially the segment between Baltimore and Delaware. I'm not sure why people in Maryland are so scared of the right lane.

The right lane is the secret weapon on the JFK segment of I-95 :-D

Pre-COVID I used to always notice that whenever there were weekend slowdowns on that piece of I-95, that the right lane inched along quicker (relatively speaking, anyway) than the other 2 lanes.  I've never understood why everyone insists on cruising in the middle (and sometimes left :rolleyes:) lane - maybe something to do with the Tydings Bridge? (Which, yes, is only one mile out of a ~50 mile stretch, but who knows :banghead:)

I think there are a fair number of people who don't like driving that bridge (I am not one of them) because of the lack of shoulders & drop-off to the Susquehanna below.  The only time I didn't particularly enjoy crossing was during a day with nasty crosswinds - had to death-grip the wheel!

FWIW, MDTA's long-term plan is to widen I-95 from 6 to 8 lanes to Delaware, which would obviously have to include a Tydings Bridge replacement (or twinning...).
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on March 19, 2021, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on March 19, 2021, 08:56:36 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 18, 2021, 12:20:52 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5814976,-76.103923,3a,59.2y,61.1h,80.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgHPrKJHbxxCg9MZnXDKfgA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DgHPrKJHbxxCg9MZnXDKfgA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D165.75334%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) bridge could also look scary. Narrow shoulders and they need widening I'm sure.

Both 1995hoo & I mentioned that JFK Highway stretch of I-95 in another thread and how drivers tend to have a right-lane aversion (which I think the Tydings Bridge contributes to):

Quote from: jmacswimmer on March 18, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 17, 2021, 06:12:17 PM
I have absolutely had that experience on I-95 in Maryland on more than one occasion, especially the segment between Baltimore and Delaware. I'm not sure why people in Maryland are so scared of the right lane.

The right lane is the secret weapon on the JFK segment of I-95 :-D

Pre-COVID I used to always notice that whenever there were weekend slowdowns on that piece of I-95, that the right lane inched along quicker (relatively speaking, anyway) than the other 2 lanes.  I've never understood why everyone insists on cruising in the middle (and sometimes left :rolleyes:) lane - maybe something to do with the Tydings Bridge? (Which, yes, is only one mile out of a ~50 mile stretch, but who knows :banghead:)

I think there are a fair number of people who don't like driving that bridge (I am not one of them) because of the lack of shoulders & drop-off to the Susquehanna below.  The only time I didn't particularly enjoy crossing was during a day with nasty crosswinds - had to death-grip the wheel!

FWIW, MDTA's long-term plan is to widen I-95 from 6 to 8 lanes to Delaware, which would obviously have to include a Tydings Bridge replacement (or twinning...).
How about the extension of the express lanes?
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: jmacswimmer on March 19, 2021, 04:21:04 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 19, 2021, 01:18:52 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on March 19, 2021, 08:56:36 AM
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FWIW, MDTA's long-term plan is to widen I-95 from 6 to 8 lanes to Delaware, which would obviously have to include a Tydings Bridge replacement (or twinning...).
How about the extension of the express lanes?

Construction is beginning to extend them northbound-only (for now) to exit 77 - IIRC, once fully built out the farthest those would go is exit 80 or exit 85.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: roadman65 on March 22, 2021, 08:55:49 AM
http://bridgereports.com/1636210
Read the inspection report on Deihl Road over the PA Turnpike and see why this Rigid Concrete bridge looks scary.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 22, 2021, 03:28:56 PM
Did something on the 7th Street Bridge in Modesto on Gribblenation awhile back.  The 7th Street Bridge is presently being braced up and has a really low weight limit:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2020/11/former-us-route-99-in-modesto-and-7th.html?m=1

Any report on the bridge and any close look at the substructure reveals why the 7th Street Bridge needs to be replaced.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: NE2 on March 23, 2021, 01:56:50 AM
It killed Threevix.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on July 11, 2021, 10:20:31 PM
Is it me or does this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4279936,-77.9967629,3a,36.6y,17.18h,92.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh-yowr71k2hNYRoOZkS0PA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) overpass look too low to me?
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: CoreySamson on July 11, 2021, 11:04:17 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 11, 2021, 10:20:31 PM
Is it me or does this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4279936,-77.9967629,3a,36.6y,17.18h,92.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh-yowr71k2hNYRoOZkS0PA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) overpass look too low to me?
In Texas that would have a clearance sign. Then again, there would also be one where the ramp goes over 70 Bypass.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on October 20, 2021, 09:22:14 PM
Sherman Minton Bridge sucks. I don't like elevated bridges. I'm sure it lights up but it's VERY boring to drive on when you are on the lower level. And it looks scary cause I feel like the top deck will collapse!  :-o
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on October 20, 2021, 09:22:52 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on July 11, 2021, 11:04:17 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 11, 2021, 10:20:31 PM
Is it me or does this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4279936,-77.9967629,3a,36.6y,17.18h,92.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh-yowr71k2hNYRoOZkS0PA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) overpass look too low to me?
In Texas that would have a clearance sign. Then again, there would also be one where the ramp goes over 70 Bypass.
South Carolina has them too.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: SkyPesos on October 20, 2021, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 20, 2021, 09:22:14 PM
Sherman Minton Bridge sucks. I don't like elevated bridges. I'm sure it lights up but it's VERY boring to drive on when you are on the lower level. And it looks scary cause I feel like the top deck will collapse!  :-o
I've crossed that bridge at least 16 times by now. Is 800 meters of boredom on the lower deck of a bridge too much for you to handle?

Fortunately, there is an alternative. You can cross over the Ohio River on the I-265 bridge in the area for a low price of $2.10, only $2.10 more than the $0.00 on the I-64 bridge !
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on October 20, 2021, 11:42:32 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on October 20, 2021, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 20, 2021, 09:22:14 PM
Sherman Minton Bridge sucks. I don't like elevated bridges. I'm sure it lights up but it's VERY boring to drive on when you are on the lower level. And it looks scary cause I feel like the top deck will collapse!  :-o
I've crossed that bridge at least 16 times by now. Is 800 meters of boredom on the lower deck of a bridge too much for you to handle?

Fortunately, there is an alternative. You can cross over the Ohio River on the I-265 bridge in the area for a low price of $2.10, only $2.10 more than the $0.00 on the I-64 bridge !
Yes, I would go with I-65!
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: epzik8 on October 28, 2021, 09:06:09 AM
It doesn't to me. In fact I love the landscaping.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on October 28, 2021, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 28, 2021, 09:06:09 AM
It doesn't to me. In fact I love the landscaping.
Is this to the Sherman Minton Bridge or I-65?
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: epzik8 on November 12, 2021, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 28, 2021, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 28, 2021, 09:06:09 AM
It doesn't to me. In fact I love the landscaping.
Is this to the Sherman Minton Bridge or I-65?
This is to OP on US 421.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: bwana39 on November 12, 2021, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1064685,-80.045225,3a,60y,271.71h,86.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEIfAaB_Lvo6eVh4q9Fb3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I think the point is some people don't like the fact that the bridge design doesn't use center supports. The single span is longer than the length of the individual spans if it had used a center support. The spans are up to 100' feet but that is far less than the length of plenty of other spans in deck bridges.

Actually it is a safer design, because the biggest reason deck bridges fail in the US is because traffic (most often TT-Combos) strike the center support (that you so badly miss) and knock one or both sides of the bridge down. 
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on November 13, 2021, 04:18:55 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 13, 2021, 04:42:16 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1064685,-80.045225,3a,60y,271.71h,86.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEIfAaB_Lvo6eVh4q9Fb3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

it looks .. austere no thats not the right word... but neither is scary. imposing? severe? out of place?

it, to me is odd,though.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Road Hog on November 13, 2021, 01:15:27 PM
The wide shoulder caught my attention. This overpass was built to accommodate future road expansion. That's a good thing.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Bruce on November 14, 2021, 03:13:37 AM
No bridge is as scary as the original Galloping Gertie.



Spoiler: It didn't make it to its first birthday.

(https://cdn.britannica.com/21/59921-050-BCBF8853/Collapse-Tacoma-Narrows-Bridge-Washington-state-1940.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: CoolAngrybirdsrio4 on December 07, 2021, 04:02:20 AM
Due to having no support columns in the median.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on December 09, 2021, 11:12:20 PM
Quote from: CoolAngrybirdsrio4 on December 07, 2021, 04:02:20 AM
Due to having no support columns in the median.
Modern bridges (not all) are designed like that.

Now if it was concrete beams, then it would be MORE scary!
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: CoolAngrybirdsrio4 on December 09, 2021, 11:21:53 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 09, 2021, 11:12:20 PM
Quote from: CoolAngrybirdsrio4 on December 07, 2021, 04:02:20 AM
Due to having no support columns in the median.
Modern bridges (not all) are designed like that.

Now if it was concrete beams, then it would be MORE scary!

I guess it depends on the length too
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: tolbs17 on January 18, 2022, 12:57:30 AM
This bridge looks scary to me. It was built in an awkward position.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4793424,-80.5777183,3a,31.8y,20.08h,95.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRgPRmdM_zdJWOu5c7DNqkQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DRgPRmdM_zdJWOu5c7DNqkQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D126.15189%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 18, 2022, 07:43:15 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 18, 2022, 12:57:30 AM
This bridge looks scary to me. It was built in an awkward position.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4793424,-80.5777183,3a,31.8y,20.08h,95.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRgPRmdM_zdJWOu5c7DNqkQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DRgPRmdM_zdJWOu5c7DNqkQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D126.15189%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

This bridge looks relaxing and sedate:

https://flic.kr/p/2kS4QSF


Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 15, 2022, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on March 14, 2021, 01:20:29 PM
Though without piers, the bridge is not without peers in NC (ran across this one yesterday)...

https://goo.gl/maps/CxUGLS77NuDz3oVJ6

A better question is, why does it look like NCDOT wants to reuse the old road as southbound lanes, when it looks like the existing bridge is just barely capable of handling two more lanes.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6004474,-78.617018,3a,75y,342.89h,91.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suZT-PFjnc8FJYMDzLemEtg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

As for scary bridges, I thought that link was going to lead to something like the Delaware Memorial Bridge or Chesapeake Bay Bridge (US 50-301), or something like that.


Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Mapmikey on February 16, 2022, 07:19:13 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 15, 2022, 09:19:12 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on March 14, 2021, 01:20:29 PM
Though without piers, the bridge is not without peers in NC (ran across this one yesterday)...

https://goo.gl/maps/CxUGLS77NuDz3oVJ6

A better question is, why does it look like NCDOT wants to reuse the old road as southbound lanes, when it looks like the existing bridge is just barely capable of handling two more lanes.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6004474,-78.617018,3a,75y,342.89h,91.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suZT-PFjnc8FJYMDzLemEtg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


Confused by this question...putting the old road back into service as the SB lanes would require a new bridge and interchange entirely unless there were going to be tight S curves on both sides of NC 87 bypass.
Title: Re: Why does this bridge look scary?
Post by: Sapphuby on February 18, 2022, 06:29:56 PM
How about this bridge? Sure looks like to me that a semi would ram the bottom of either bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6913283,-90.6254682,3a,67.4y,0.78h,78.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMQ9ZlY-lWpEDutE6Cw-RRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656