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I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« on: February 25, 2014, 11:08:43 AM »

I started this topic because my searching of an existing PA Turnpike / I-95 interchange topic wasn't found.

How many people have seen the 'visualizations' section of the I-95/I-276's online website? Included are two 'driving simulators' that go from south to north or west to east. The interesting things about these visualizations are amount of detail and accuracy in them - they both feature realistic looking BGS and sign gantries (with some exceptions) which makes them interesting to watch. One thing that isn't accurate is the NJTP shield on some of the BGS - it's pretty ugly.

You can view the visualizations here:
http://www.paturnpikei95.com/visualizations.htm

As with the previous I-95 BGS heading north from Philadelphia, the control city used is Trenton. I-195 will be extended over the old Trenton I-95 section, and I-295 will be truncated to exit 60 east of Trenton, with the truncated sections becoming a part of I-195. I-276 east of this interchange will now be I-95, with the NJTP officially becoming I-95 from the start of the Delaware River Turnpike Bridge.

If I missed any details please correct them, and if there is a topic for the interchange project, then the mods can feel free to merge this post into that one if they so choose.
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 01:44:16 PM »

Isn't the flyover from East to West actually going from West to East?

In the South to North drive-thru, it appears that the 2 lane, 95 North is a single lane exit to itself, where it becomes 2 lanes on the ramp for 95 North, with the left lane splitting to go to the PA Turnpike WB.
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 06:19:39 PM »

Isn't the flyover from East to West actually going from West to East?

I thought that same thing.

How is the exit numbering going to work for I-195? It was already weird when jumped for Exit 1 A/B to Exit 60 A/B at the transition to NJ 29, but now that I-195 took over I-295 and Trenton's I-95, it has about 14-15 new exits to label. It could easily be solved by absorbing I-295's exit numbering, then just continuing the same scheme for I-95's exit list.
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 06:57:57 PM »

How is the exit numbering going to work for I-195? It was already weird when jumped for Exit 1 A/B to Exit 60 A/B at the transition to NJ 29, but now that I-195 took over I-295 and Trenton's I-95, it has about 14-15 new exits to label. It could easily be solved by absorbing I-295's exit numbering, then just continuing the same scheme for I-95's exit list.
Guess on my part but the renumbering of exits for I-195 will likely be as follows:

PA (current I-95)
Exit 1 will be at the new Turnpike (I-95/195/276) interchange and increase to the NJ state line and current Exits 44-51 will be renumbered 2-9.

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Current I-95: Exits 1-8 will remain unchanged.
Current I-295: Exits 67-60 will be renumbered (& change direction) 9-16
Current I-195: Exits 1-36 will be renumbered 17-52
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 11:07:27 PM »

Have the construction already started on Phrase 1?
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 11:33:03 AM »

Have the construction already started on Phrase 1?

Yes, the construction of the new mainline toll plaza in Bensalem and the new toll facilities at US 13 is underway:

http://www.paturnpikei95.com/sum07openhouse.htm
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2014, 03:45:58 PM »

Have the construction already started on Phrase 1?

Yes, but there's still a ways to go before the I-95 gap is closed:

http://www.paturnpikei95.com/construction/ConstructionHome.htm
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2014, 05:07:51 PM »

This long overdue project is not exactly proceeding rapidly. Heck, the whole original New Jersey Turnpike was built in what, 2 years???  Looking at the timeline on their website, I hope I live long enough to see this interchange completed and actually get to drive through it! I've been waiting for this to happen since 1976, when I first drove to Phila. and stared in disbelief as I drove west on the Penn. Turnpike thru the I-95 underpass and there was no interchange there to go south on I-95 to Phila. This travesty would never have happened in New York State. Look at all the NY Thruway interchanges with other Interstate Freeways.
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2014, 09:50:30 PM »

As much as I hate PA's non-interchanges, it's worth noting that the Thruway was built at the same time as the other interstates, unlike the PTC.
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2014, 10:04:48 PM »

And yet...look how long it took to get a direct connection between I-87 and I-84! :(
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2014, 10:22:10 PM »

This long overdue project is not exactly proceeding rapidly. Heck, the whole original New Jersey Turnpike was built in what, 2 years??? 

Yes, in the late 40's/early 50's, when the population was a fraction of what it is now and the existing roads would require hours to drive compared to the speed of the turnpike, and when environmental regulations didn't exist, OSHA didn't exist, and a death every few months was considered acceptable, it only took about 2 years to build the turnpike.

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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2014, 10:54:12 PM »

And yet...look how long it took to get a direct connection between I-87 and I-84! :(
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 02:34:20 AM »

This long overdue project is not exactly proceeding rapidly. Heck, the whole original New Jersey Turnpike was built in what, 2 years??? 

Yes, in the late 40's/early 50's, when the population was a fraction of what it is now and the existing roads would require hours to drive compared to the speed of the turnpike, and when environmental regulations didn't exist, OSHA didn't exist, and a death every few months was considered acceptable, it only took about 2 years to build the turnpike.

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it is also easier to build on a new alignment than to build onto an existing infastructure.
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Re: I-95/I-276 Interchange Project: Visualizations
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2014, 04:53:19 PM »

In the case of the I-84 interchange, it looks like the Thruway pre-dated I-84 by several years.  Early topo maps even show a partial trumpet with NY 17K.

And yet...look how long it took to get a direct connection between I-87 and I-84! :(
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I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange Simulation
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 11:20:22 AM »

From the PA Turnpike/I-95 Interchange Project website, here are four cool presentations of what the finished product will look like.

Drive-Through West-East: Transition from I-276 East to I-95 North
Drive-Through South-North: Transition from I-95 North to I-195 East
Flyover East-West
Flyover South-North

The buildings, trees and even the high-mast streetlights make it look a lot like the real thing! However, I've read that the "I-195" depicted here may actually become I-395 instead. Here's the completed interchange as it will look below:

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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange Simulation
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2014, 12:48:50 PM »

FYI, a thread on this subject from earlier this year already exists.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange Simulation
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2014, 06:57:21 PM »

Cool!  Now how many years until they finally get it built?
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange Simulation
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2014, 07:31:09 PM »

FYI, a thread on this subject from earlier this year already exists.

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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange Simulation
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2014, 10:07:47 AM »

Cool!  Now how many years until they finally get it built?

At the current rate... maybe in about 5 years, and that's being generous.

Also, anyone want to gander at what software was used to make those visualizations? I'm curious. I almost want to think 3d Studio or Maya, but at the same time... I feel like it's something much more different.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2014, 03:28:00 PM »

Cool!  Now how many years until they finally get it built?

At the current rate... maybe in about 5 years, and that's being generous.

Also, anyone want to gander at what software was used to make those visualizations? I'm curious. I almost want to think 3d Studio or Maya, but at the same time... I feel like it's something much more different.

Supposedly, the ramps needed to complete I-95 (but not the other movements and definitely not more than two lanes each way between the bridge over the Delaware River and the new interchange) will be complete in 2017.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange Simulation
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2014, 11:31:31 PM »

Also, anyone want to gander at what software was used to make those visualizations? I'm curious. I almost want to think 3d Studio or Maya, but at the same time... I feel like it's something much more different.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2014, 11:27:18 AM »

Also, anyone want to gander at what software was used to make those visualizations? I'm curious. I almost want to think 3d Studio or Maya, but at the same time... I feel like it's something much more different.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2014, 01:40:13 PM »

Also, anyone want to gander at what software was used to make those visualizations? I'm curious. I almost want to think 3d Studio or Maya, but at the same time... I feel like it's something much more different.
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Well, those videos might even be older than Vista, so it must have been an early beta test. :bigass:
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2014, 06:44:23 PM »

Cool!  Now how many years until they finally get it built?

At the current rate... maybe in about 5 years, and that's being generous.

Also, anyone want to gander at what software was used to make those visualizations? I'm curious. I almost want to think 3d Studio or Maya, but at the same time... I feel like it's something much more different.

Supposedly, the ramps needed to complete I-95 (but not the other movements and definitely not more than two lanes each way between the bridge over the Delaware River and the new interchange) will be complete in 2017.

So basically, three years to complete the missing link, and five or six years to complete the other movements is what it sounds like.
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Re: I-95/Penna Turnpike Interchange
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2014, 04:45:27 PM »

It will probably take a little longer (hopefully not, but unfortunately how the government works these days)  :banghead:

Instead of rerouting the current I-95 segment as I-195, they should make it I-395 from the new interchange, across the Delaware River then to the NJ 29/I-295/195 interchange. However, if they are making it I-195 that means they will have to renumber the exits on the current 195 highway between the 95 segment/295 in NJ and NJ 138. The current exits on 95 are already counted for. Here is the future exit list I calculated:

Former:   (295)        New:

 67       (US 1)           9

 65    (Sloan Ave)    11A-B

 64    (CR 535)       12A-B

 63    (Route 33)    13A-B

 62    (Olden Ave)   14

 61    (Arena Dr)     15A-B

 60   (I-295/NJ 29)  16A-B

   (Now on 195 segment)
(interchange 60 ramps should be modified, IMO)

 1       (US 206)       17A-B

 2  (US 206/CR 524)   18

 3 (Yardville Hamilton 19A-B
          Square Rd)

 5        (US 130)       21A-B

 6      (NJ Turnpike)    22

 7         (CR 526)       23

 8         (CR 539)       24

 11    (Imlaystown)    27

 16      (CR 537)       32A-B

 21      (CR 527)       37

 22   (Jackson Mills)  38

 28       (US 9)         44A-B

 31     (CR 547)       47A-B

 35    (Route 34)     51A-B

 36    (GSP north)    52

  (Begin Route 138 east)



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