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xonhulu:
This article appeared in today's Newberg Graphic newspaper, about a push for a privately-financed-and-operated toll road as a bypass of Newberg:

http://www.newberggraphic.com/news/2009/October/09/Local.News/regional.bypass.to.return.as.private.toll.road/news.aspx

Bassically, this would be a direct connection from OR 18 to I-5 near Hubbard.  ODOT considered this alternative (the so-called "Regional Bypass") as a potential routing of the Newberg-Dundee Bypass but eliminated it largely because it didn't serve as much potential traffic as other routes and a lack of cooperation from Marion County.

Personally, I would like to see this highway built, but as a public highway.  That's largely because, selfishly, it be the most useful route for me.

Bickendan:
Hmm, it's a bit further south than I'd have expected, but it's feasible.

xonhulu:
Well, I have a feeling this has "pipe dream" written all over it.  The thing is, it wouldn't take much doing for ODOT to make a connector near this route, as there's a pretty good county road already running between OR 219 and I-5; all you need to do is connect OR 18 to it via a new bridge and a couple miles of new road.

Tarkus:

--- Quote from: xonhulu on October 14, 2009, 03:35:44 PM ---The thing is, it wouldn't take much doing for ODOT to make a connector near this route, as there's a pretty good county road already running between OR 219 and I-5

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Yes, Ehlen Road/Yergen Road/McKay Road.  Would have been nice if they could have made the whole thing Ehlen. :rolleyes:  But yeah, that's a really nice road.  I've kind of thought they should route 219 onto McKay there at the T-intersection instead of going down to St. Paul, and then have 219 terminate at OR-99E in Aurora, making the St. Paul stretch into a western extension of OR-214. 

Extending it to the Newberg-Dundee Bypass sounds like an interesting idea.  The big expense would be crossing the Willamette, but I don't think that would be too prohibitive if the bridge were of 2-lane expressway standards.

I don't think a toll road as described in that article would make much sense, though.  Particularly if the Newberg-Dundee Bypass were to be tolled as had originally been planned. 

-Alex (Tarkus)

xonhulu:

--- Quote from: Tarkus on October 15, 2009, 01:55:13 AM ---Yes, Ehlen Road/Yergen Road/McKay Road.  Would have been nice if they could have made the whole thing Ehlen. :rolleyes:  But yeah, that's a really nice road.  I've kind of thought they should route 219 onto McKay there at the T-intersection instead of going down to St. Paul, and then have 219 terminate at OR-99E in Aurora, making the St. Paul stretch into a western extension of OR-214.
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Marion County loves to have county roads abruptly change names, sometimes there aren't even intersections!  I had a friend who needed to go up to Newberg from Salem for a softball tournament, so he MapQuested the route, then was perplexed by having to switch roads so often until I explained that Ehlen/Yergen/McKay were actually all one road.

Interesting idea on rerouting 219.  I'd never thought of that myself.  However, I don't think OR 214 should be extended west.  In fact, I never thought 214 should even go to the Woodburn exit; that should be 211.  Think about it: 214 is signed to I-5 presumably so traffic on southbound I-5 can find the road to Silverton and Silver Falls.  However, that traveler would be better off exiting south of Wilsonville on OR 551, taking 99E south to Woodburn, and then picking up 214.  Meanwhile, travelers on northbound I-5 trying to find the OR 211 highway to Molalla/Estacada aren't served at all by signage at the Woodburn exit.  Before OR 551 received that designation, I thought 214 should've duplexed 99E through Hubbard and taken that route to I-5, and OR 211 should've gone through the 4-way intersection in Woodburn and continued out to I-5.  Moot point now.


--- Quote ---Extending it to the Newberg-Dundee Bypass sounds like an interesting idea.  The big expense would be crossing the Willamette, but I don't think that would be too prohibitive if the bridge were of 2-lane expressway standards.
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It would still be cheaper than the currently planned Bypass, and accomplish quite a few of the same objectives.  Couple it with an improved OR 219 bridge over the Willamette and a short east-side facility in Newberg connecting 219 and 99W, and you have your Newberg bypass.


--- Quote ---I don't think a toll road as described in that article would make much sense, though.  Particularly if the Newberg-Dundee Bypass were to be tolled as had originally been planned. 
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I agree completely.

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