Will anyone ever eclipse Michael Jackson?

[dlsterner]

What's a "Drake"?

[hotdogPi]

What's a "Drake"?

As I said before, it's a duck, a male duck in particular. In addition, some works of fiction use the term for a small dragon-like creature.

[thspfc]

The only reason I know who Drake is is because of his friendship with John Calipari.

I was coached by John Calipari.

Where?

UMass.

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Summer basketball camp.

Hey, that's still pretty cool.

[Scott5114]

What's a "Drake"?

As I said before, it's a duck, a male duck in particular. In addition, some works of fiction use the term for a small dragon-like creature.

"Drake" can be used to describe any dragon, regardless of size, descending from the Latin draco via Middle English. As with ducks, I think it tends to imply a male dragon, while a female dragon is a dragoness. You know, should you need to specify the gender of the thing that's currently torching you and your belongings.

Dragon nomenclature usually depends on body plan, especially number of limbs (a true dragon has six limbs, while a wyvern has four, two legs and two wings). D&D has the psuedodragon (MM 254, CR ¼) and faerie dragon (MM 133, CR 1) which despite being in the Tiny size class nevertheless carry the full Dragon creature type, and all the implications that carries; e.g. they cannot be impersonated by a druid.

[jp the roadgeek]

What's a "Drake"?

As I said before, it's a duck, a male duck in particular. In addition, some works of fiction use the term for a small dragon-like creature.

Also the makers of Devil Dogs and Funny Bones

[Road Hog]

Music (and music radio) are so fragmented these days that there may never be another artist that crosses over as big as Elvis, the Beatles, MJ or even Drake. It's more likely it'll be a female artist along the lines of Taylor Swift who is very popular among males.

[1995hoo]

A Drake is a descendant of a British circumnavigator.

[renegade]

I liked Drake when he was part of the Degrassi universe.  Don't know much about him after that.

[GaryV]

Drake was an astrophysicist?   

[US71]

Someday, someone may eclipse Michael Jackson, but likely no time soon.

[hbelkins]

Drake, a duck, a male duck.
Ray, a drop of golden sun...

[kkt]

It's just a duck.

[Avalanchez71]

Drake in no way comes anywhere close to MJ.

[kkt]

Drake was an astrophysicist?   

Is!  He's still among the living!

[Takumi]

What's a "Drake"?

As I said before, it's a duck, a male duck in particular. In addition, some works of fiction use the term for a small dragon-like creature.

"Drake" can be used to describe any dragon, regardless of size, descending from the Latin draco via Middle English. As with ducks, I think it tends to imply a male dragon, while a female dragon is a dragoness. You know, should you need to specify the gender of the thing that's currently torching you and your belongings.

Dragon nomenclature usually depends on body plan, especially number of limbs (a true dragon has six limbs, while a wyvern has four, two legs and two wings). D&D has the psuedodragon (MM 254, CR ¼) and faerie dragon (MM 133, CR 1) which despite being in the Tiny size class nevertheless carry the full Dragon creature type, and all the implications that carries; e.g. they cannot be impersonated by a druid.

In Ultima games (or at least UO), drakes are simply young dragons. They breathe fire like their larger counterparts, but don't use magic, and use a smaller version of the same sprite.

[Roadgeekteen]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

[Max Rockatansky]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

I'm a generation ahead of Boomer and I didn't even know who the guy was.  I thought that was just another "Max being Max"  thing, but it appears I'm not the only who wasn't familiar. 

[JayhawkCO]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

[thspfc]

I agree with everyone - Jackson is far more famous than Drake. But, do remember that this forum skews older compared to the general population. You and your friends not knowing who Drake is doesn't mean that he's not a hugely popular artist, albeit not on Jackson's level.

[Roadgeekteen]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

I never said that Drake was MJ level but most people know who he is. The closest artist to Michael Jackson today is probably Taylor Swift but even she falls short.

[JayhawkCO]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

I never said that Drake was MJ level but most people know who he is. The closest artist to Michael Jackson today is probably Taylor Swift but even she falls short.

I'd actually maybe go Justin Timberlake?

[Roadgeekteen]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

I never said that Drake was MJ level but most people know who he is. The closest artist to Michael Jackson today is probably Taylor Swift but even she falls short.

I'd actually maybe go Justin Timberlake?

Musically, sure, in terms of fame, not even close. He's not even the most famous singer named Justin.

[Rothman]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

I never said that Drake was MJ level but most people know who he is. The closest artist to Michael Jackson today is probably Taylor Swift but even she falls short.

I'd actually maybe go Justin Timberlake?

Musically, sure, in terms of fame, not even close. He's not even the most famous singer named Justin.

Oh, are we really going to go with Bieber? . I think Timberlake is more popular due to having more of a cross-generational audience.

[thspfc]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

I never said that Drake was MJ level but most people know who he is. The closest artist to Michael Jackson today is probably Taylor Swift but even she falls short.

I'd actually maybe go Justin Timberlake?

Taylor Swift and Drake are both bigger than Justin Timberlake.

[JayhawkCO]

Drake isn't gonna surpass Michael Jackson, he's way too famous and had more of a cultural impact, but all of the boomers in here pretending that Drake isn't internationally known and very successful is kind of crazy. Most of the obscure 1960s and 1970s bands you talk about in other music threads are completely irrelevant now, only the most successful ones of that era survive.

With all due respect, you weren't alive when MJ was at his peak.  I listen to plenty of rap/hip-hop (although less of the poppy stuff that's on the radio admittedly). Drake's popularity here and abroad is NOTHING like Michael Jackson's was.  Hence the boomers (and this late millennial) think the comparison is kind of laughable. I know Drake is famous.  But he's maybe 1/10th as famous as MJ during his apex.

I never said that Drake was MJ level but most people know who he is. The closest artist to Michael Jackson today is probably Taylor Swift but even she falls short.

I'd actually maybe go Justin Timberlake?

Taylor Swift and Drake are both bigger than Justin Timberlake.

Even if you include his NSYNC days?  That kind of fandom is the closest thing we've had since MJ.