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Re: Alabama
« Reply #700 on: April 24, 2023, 01:43:03 PM »

I went through Prattville this weekend and westbound traffic has been moved to one lane of the new section of the 4-laning of US82. Eastbound was also one lane. I assume they are getting it ready to shift the one lane of eastbound traffic to the new lanes in order to rebuild/resurface the eastbound side?
Yeah, I assume the eastbound traffic will be moved onto the new westbound carriageway sometime this week or next week so that the contractor doing the eastbound carriageway bridge demo/rebuild and resurfacing/shoulder widening can start their work. The eastbound carriageway rebuild contractor will also pave the final wearing surface on the westbound carriageway once all traffic is in its final configuration. Speaking of, the contract to rebuild the eastbound carriageway let on April 7, so that eastbound rebuild will begin probably in the summer.
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« Reply #701 on: May 15, 2023, 09:45:50 AM »

https://imgur.com/a/Z6P4tDK

Lawsuit aside, work is well underway for the new bridge in Gulf Shores. This is the clearing for the new roadway on the northside of the waterway and just east of the airport. Looks like bridge prep has started as well. Powerlines have already been relocated further south of AL-180 to make room for the new flyover terminus of the free section Beach Express.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/961ULkNU35PumxNC6?g_st=ic

Here’s the clearing across Cotton Creek Drive for the roadway looking south

I’ve also seen that Gulf Shores is planning to build a new pedestrian bridge over the waterway between LuLu’s and Tacky Jacks to eliminate the walkway on the AL-59 bridge and add a lane for southbound traffic.

https://www.gulfshoresal.gov/1784/Waterway-Village-Pedestrian-Bridge#:~:text=The%20new%20Waterway%20Village%20Pedestrian,area%20to%20East%2020th%20Avenue.

 
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« Reply #702 on: May 17, 2023, 03:25:02 PM »

An Alabama judge has ordered ALDOT to stop construction of the new Gulf Shores bridge.  The director of the Alabama Department of Transportation “acted in bad faith” and attempted to put a “private company out of business” while pursuing a $120 million alternative bridge in Gulf Shores while concealing his efforts from the public, a Montgomery County judge ruled in a blistering 80-page order released Wednesday.
https://www.al.com/news/2023/05/judge-aldot-director-negotiated-in-bad-faith-and-shocks-the-conscious-over-actions-on-beach-bridges.html
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« Reply #703 on: May 17, 2023, 04:51:48 PM »



An Alabama judge has ordered ALDOT to stop construction of the new Gulf Shores bridge.  The director of the Alabama Department of Transportation “acted in bad faith” and attempted to put a “private company out of business” while pursuing a $120 million alternative bridge in Gulf Shores while concealing his efforts from the public, a Montgomery County judge ruled in a blistering 80-page order released Wednesday.
https://www.al.com/news/2023/05/judge-aldot-director-negotiated-in-bad-faith-and-shocks-the-conscious-over-actions-on-beach-bridges.html

Bizarre.  Would be really interesting if overturned on appeal given the language of this ruling.
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« Reply #704 on: May 18, 2023, 10:33:40 AM »

An Alabama judge has ordered ALDOT to stop construction of the new Gulf Shores bridge.  The director of the Alabama Department of Transportation “acted in bad faith” and attempted to put a “private company out of business” while pursuing a $120 million alternative bridge in Gulf Shores while concealing his efforts from the public, a Montgomery County judge ruled in a blistering 80-page order released Wednesday.
https://www.al.com/news/2023/05/judge-aldot-director-negotiated-in-bad-faith-and-shocks-the-conscious-over-actions-on-beach-bridges.html

This Judge sounds like he has a stake in the toll bridge’s finances. Calling it the  “Cooper bridge” while the Governor’s office has responded that they are behind a new free alternative is going to make this interesting. First I’ve seen that Orange Beach has the possibility of purchasing the toll bridge in 2033 so I see why they are fighting the new one. It’s all petty politics as usual.
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« Reply #705 on: May 18, 2023, 01:45:41 PM »

This Judge sounds like he has a stake in the toll bridge’s finances. Calling it the  “Cooper bridge” while the Governor’s office has responded that they are behind a new free alternative is going to make this interesting. First I’ve seen that Orange Beach has the possibility of purchasing the toll bridge in 2033 so I see why they are fighting the new one. It’s all petty politics as usual.

Plus the bridge company pays Orange Beach $1.5 million per year. Easy money.
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« Reply #706 on: May 19, 2023, 01:41:33 PM »

I’ve read and assumed that the toll operator plans to build a whole new 2nd bridge if they get their way. But this line taken from the article:

“Pool seemed to believe that BCBC’s approach was sensible, saying the company offered to build two new lanes over its bridge, expand the number of toll plazas and make $70 million in additional infrastructure improvements”

Is the Judge implying and been told that they’ll just simply add two lanes to the current bridge? Because that’s not happening. You can get a third lane if you eliminate the emergency shoulders. Realistically a whole new bridge will have to be constructed and it won’t cheap due to the length and height. That cost of a new 2nd bridge will be recouped from increased tolls.


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« Reply #707 on: May 23, 2023, 11:17:00 AM »

More political pressure is coming to widen I-65 through Alabama, but ALDOT seems to be dragging their feet on it.

https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2023/05/alabama-lawmakers-look-to-prioritize-i-65-widening.html
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« Reply #708 on: May 24, 2023, 07:56:13 PM »

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« Reply #709 on: May 25, 2023, 07:17:18 PM »


And Governor Kay Ivey said widening I-65 "Makes for easy headlines."
https://www.al.com/news/2023/05/alabama-gov-kay-ivey-smacks-back-on-ainsworths-i-65-pitches-makes-for-easy-headlines.html?utm_source=pocket_saves

Well in general it seems that the Governor prefers to builds roads from nowhere to nowhere through nowhere.  :popcorn:
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« Reply #710 on: May 25, 2023, 10:28:31 PM »

Someone should remind the Lieutenant Governor that I-65 is not the entire state.
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Re: Alabama
« Reply #711 on: Today at 04:53:08 PM »

Someone should remind the Lieutenant Governor that I-65 is not the entire state.

True enough. We were discussing this in a Facebook group. I went all megageek and looked up the 2021 ADTs for the remaining four-lane sections of I-65:

near Airport Blvd, Mobile: 91-95k
south of I-165: 81k
I-165 to AL 158: 71k

(six lane ends)

south of US 45: 51k -->37k
Dolly Parton Bridges: 24k
north of Baldwin: 27k
north of AL 113: 27k
Lowndes Co: 36k
south of US 80: 54k

(six lanes through Montgomery)

north of AL 14: 59k
Autauga Co: 39k
Chilton Co: 43k-->48k
south of AL 25: 48k
north of US 31 Calera: 57k
south of US 31 Alabaster: 63k

(6-8 lanes through Birmingham)

north of Blount CR 5: 45k
at Cullman: 53k
north Cullman Co: 40k
Tennessee River: 50k
north of I-565: 37k
at Athens: 30k
north of Athens: 26k

This seemed to confirm my opinion that widening of I-65 wasn't needed south of Montgomery. However, a guy whose opinion I respect added, "Yes (widening is needed). Traffic during busy vacation times leads to F grade congestion for over 100 miles."

Having done all of that, I might as well note that traffic drops off significantly south of Montgomery: roughly 90k on I-65 and I-85 north of Montgomery, 70k on I-65, US 231, and US 80 to the south and west.
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