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Title: Beginnings and endings
Post by: xonhulu on December 04, 2011, 09:50:53 PM
Besides being the longest US Highway, US 20 has another odd distinction.  Its western endpoint in Oregon is signed with a "BEGIN" sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS20Newport2.jpg&hash=e6c7d50dfe320241333b6c8acf3587fb5fb740af)

while its eastern endpoint in Massachusetts is marked with an "END" sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi572.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss166%2Fxonhulu%2FUS%2520Routes%2FUS20Boston3.jpg&hash=bb90a02925ef26ab928393207143aef3e561ae02)

However, it doesn't work the other way around: I'm pretty sure there's no "BEGIN" in Boston, and I know there's no "END" in Newport.  Thus, US 20 has a signed beginning and end, indicating the proper direction to drive it is east, and if you drive it west you're going backwards.

Do any other highways share this distinction?  My gut says there have got to be some others, so if you know of any, weigh in, and include pix if you can.

The ultimate would be finding a highway with both "BEGIN" and "END" on both ends.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: mukade on December 04, 2011, 10:56:17 PM
Assuming state highways count, the only one I am aware of is Indiana SR 662. Only one end sign is shown in the first link, but it has ones at both ends:
Highway Explorer SR 662 (http://www.highwayexplorer.com/EndsPage.php?id=1662&section=1)
Google Maps Street View (http://maps.google.com/?ll=37.950627,-87.423728&spn=0.000008,0.005262&t=h&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=37.950652,-87.423876&panoid=njUBB3CybjnuGxAjfLpCpQ&cbp=12,127.06,,0,13.58) (the missing end sign is on the right)
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Takumi on December 04, 2011, 11:10:17 PM
I know of a few highways in VA with END banners (VA 106 south, VA 273 south, I-64, I-264, I-664, the 895/150 transition, VA 76, and both ends of VA 288 are the ones I've driven recently), but I don't recall ever seeing a BEGIN banner on any of them.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: xonhulu on December 05, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
BEGIN banners are pretty rare.  That one in Newport, and its counterpart across the street, are the only examples I know of in Oregon.  For that matter, END signs are pretty rare in Oregon, too, but there are several examples of those.  

For purposes of this question, though, it doesn't have to be a banner -- a BEGIN or END on a BGS will also do.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: formulanone on December 05, 2011, 07:19:47 AM
Some North Carolina state routes have BEGIN signs.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: SSOWorld on December 05, 2011, 08:39:45 AM
Sometimes the JCT plate is used on the road itself.  Outside of that xonhulu is correct.  The one rare instance of this in Wisconsin is on I-794/WIS 794 in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Takumi on December 05, 2011, 10:03:06 AM
Looking at my VA 76 END photo, I noticed secondary route 652 has a BEGIN banner. I don't have a photo of the other side but I assume it's the same.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: hbelkins on December 05, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
I've seen a few "BEGIN" banners here and there.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: oscar on December 05, 2011, 12:39:33 PM
In Hawaii, routes 51 and 56 on Kauai island have both "begin" and "end" banners.  Hawaii rarely uses "begin" banners and has few "end" banners (usually milemarker 0, and a terminal milemarker with exact mileage to two digits after the decimal point, serve those functions).  But for both 51 and 56, the highway changes route number for no obvious reason (58 -> 51 at 51's south end, 560 -> 56 at 56's north end, and 50 -> 56 at 56's south end).

Route 58 has also has "begin" and "end" banners at its east end where it meets route 51, but I don't think it has (or needs) either at its west end, a T-intersection with route 50.

I have photos at least for 51's beginning and end signs (going northbound but not southbound), and probably also 56's (going southbound, maybe northbound too), but for each route one sign photo and/or the other is in my film photo archives and not on the web.  
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: usends on December 05, 2011, 01:48:27 PM
In terms of US routes, I can't think of any of what the OP termed "ultimate" examples (both "Begin" and "End" signs at both termini).  However, I can think of five "trifectas" that have 3 out of 4 signs:

US 24 is signed as "beginning" in Michigan...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F20-29%2F024%2Fbegin024n.jpg&hash=71a4731739b765a2041b11c145fed31abd2ef67e)
...and "ending" in Colorado...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F20-29%2F024%2Fend024w_2010.jpg&hash=6463f755d8e6ddcc9b0567ef014c7cc9ed6527b8)
Going the other direction, there is no "Begin" sign in Colorado, but it does "End" in Michigan...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F20-29%2F024%2Fend024n.jpg&hash=66cfb4de41ff97794775597f86e5106227da5271)
(I'm pretty sure that sign has been replaced.)
(Photos from http://usends.com/20-29/024/024.html (http://usends.com/20-29/024/024.html))

US 421 "begins" in NC...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F20-29%2F421%2Fbegin421s_2005.jpg&hash=af39e7611139e8bec59ad5a16e0b9525041eef1f)
...and "ends" in Michigan City IN...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2FFocus%2FMICity%2Fend421n-2.jpg&hash=5ad72f0351eff7e9f48113524009fd9bf3398a0d)
There is no "Begin" sign in Indiana, but it does "End" in NC...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F20-29%2F421%2Fend421s_close.jpg&hash=bba8564b646b20b2eae731f63987092ce2246e62)
(Photos from http://usends.com/20-29/421/421.html (http://usends.com/20-29/421/421.html) and http://usends.com/Focus/MICity/index.html (http://usends.com/Focus/MICity/index.html))

US 35 also "Begins" in Michigan City...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F30-39%2F035%2Fbegin035n_eb-close.jpg&hash=8f99a4ad21b47e308d78f9cdf9df4e54dcbb9b1f)
...and "Ends" in WV...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F30-39%2F035%2Fend035s_2008_cu.jpg&hash=88506de367b609a226254304ebec7546271b3ca3)
There is no "Begin" sign in WV, but it does "End" in Indiana...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F30-39%2F035%2Fend035n.jpg&hash=a872c932cd23b63ce68ac0e3bd752beefd474178)
(Photos from http://usends.com/30-39/035/035.html (http://usends.com/30-39/035/035.html))

New signage at the recently-extended US 311 has it "beginning" in Eden NC...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F311%2Fbegin311n_2011_sign.jpg&hash=27a8324f07197281ed9fbecf7ad1658d859b67e9)
...and "Ending" in Randleman NC...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F311%2Fend311s_cu.jpg&hash=ea244d2b136186b6cf26e0140bb23f8f390fe7b8)
I'm not aware of a "Begin" sign in Randleman, but there is a new "End" sign in Eden...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F311%2Fend311n_sign.jpg&hash=76d530c0240b6eb5a82c8de571f9fd1bdce55d9b)
(Photos from http://usends.com/10-19/311/311.html (http://usends.com/10-19/311/311.html))

US 13 "Begins" in PA...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F013%2Fbegin013n_sb_sign.jpg&hash=24cf5b556e87f0bbe0112f1eb7e21028076858a9)
...and "Ends" in NC...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F013%2Fend013s_2008.jpg&hash=0279737dd92cfb5e9723516c287d5a17d61afe62)
I'm not aware of a "Begin" sign in NC, but there is an "End" sign in PA...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F013%2Fend013n_2010.jpg&hash=0e993737e41180be357a59d99473666fe469d40b)
(Photos from http://usends.com/10-19/013/013.html (http://usends.com/10-19/013/013.html), which I should've read more carefully before I posted this message, which originally said US 13 ended in NJ, not PA.)
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: luokou on December 05, 2011, 01:57:43 PM
I-405 in Los Angeles has an END banner on its northern end (http://g.co/maps/qy73x), though there is no corresponding BEGIN banner on its southern end at the El Toro Y. For some reason I recall a BEGIN banner at the north end a long time ago, but then again that was when I was but a wee little pup. Looking on GSV there isn't a BEGIN banner per se, but there is the classic SOUTH 405 San Diego Fwy reassurance BGS (complete with button copy) once you take the exit onto I-405 south.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: oscar on December 05, 2011, 01:59:55 PM
In Alaska, AK 3 northbound has a "begin" banner at its south end near Wasilla, and an "end" banner at its north end in Fairbanks.  I have photos of both, but only the latter is web-posted and the other is buried in my photo archives.  There is no corresponding signage on southbound AK 3, as far as I know.  

"End" and (especially) "begin" signs are otherwise rare in Alaska, to the point where it's hard to tell exactly where some of the other numbered routes begin or end, unless there's an obvious endpoint like an international border or a junction with another highway.

Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: PAHighways on December 05, 2011, 02:26:46 PM
The southern end of Business PA 66 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=greensburg,+pa&hl=en&ll=40.286041,-79.54763&spn=0.00115,0.002926&sll=40.48509,-80.274847&sspn=0.004586,0.011705&vpsrc=6&hnear=Greensburg,+Westmoreland,+Pennsylvania&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.285935,-79.547704&panoid=8Zc7dqw_M48XwVR4hpuX7Q&cbp=12,55.17,,0,2.53) in South Greensburg has a begin assembly right at the US 30 overpass.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: US71 on December 05, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2540%2F4201625720_8a4cb35414_z_d.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=ef9c173ed6569e4a7aeb6705c8b0162ad79a1f95)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2506%2F4200872511_68fa8ffa4c_z_d.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=30503127f4ec30a4ac6191a487461b7e5e5ef2bc)
Berwyn, IL

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3466%2F3828074083_43b2e66a18_z_d.jpg&hash=f149766114a74af3d7ebc229dcd1462569f1ce49)
Near Tunica, MS

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2527%2F4200872763_d48e8ee642_d.jpg&hash=d6d5783731704c16ec81b3990407dce55deb656f)
Williamsville, IL

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5021%2F5561756434_704f99830b_z_d.jpg&hash=45b5989af04ed2c1bf252329d16db73da901279b)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5230%2F5580737028_4dcfa812f8_z_d.jpg&hash=21e004d5740e5abe8164ea4c5bf8e048e5cb6e4e)
Mobile, AL

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2604%2F4232264713_54873491a4_z_d.jpg&hash=5722cdf27a29a2fde1301c10a32f16616b67cf78)
Oark, AR

Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: akotchi on December 05, 2011, 04:47:29 PM
Quote from: usends on December 05, 2011, 01:48:27 PM
US 13 "Begins" in NJ...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F013%2Fbegin013n_sb_sign.jpg&hash=24cf5b556e87f0bbe0112f1eb7e21028076858a9)
...and "Ends" in NC...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F013%2Fend013s_2008.jpg&hash=0279737dd92cfb5e9723516c287d5a17d61afe62)
I'm not aware of a "Begin" sign in NC, but there is an "End" sign in NJ...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusends.com%2F10-19%2F013%2Fend013n_2010.jpg&hash=0e993737e41180be357a59d99473666fe469d40b)


Hate to break it to you, but U.S. 13 begins/ends in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Ian on December 05, 2011, 07:41:20 PM
Quote from: xonhulu on December 04, 2011, 09:50:53 PM
while its eastern endpoint in Massachusetts is marked with an "END" sign:

While not too relevant to your original post, but Massachusetts likes to install "BEGIN" signs for the majority of their interstates.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: xonhulu on December 05, 2011, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on December 05, 2011, 07:41:20 PM
While not too relevant to your original post, but Massachusetts likes to install "BEGIN" signs for the majority of their interstates.

An example I was actually wondering about concerned Massachusetts interstates.  I seem to recall that at the I90/395/290 interchange there are "END 395/BEGIN 290" and "END 290/BEGIN 395" on the respective pull-through signage, so if those routes terminate with "END" signage on their other termini then they'd fit the condition I was looking for in the OP.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Ian on December 05, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: xonhulu on December 05, 2011, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: PennDOTFan on December 05, 2011, 07:41:20 PM
While not too relevant to your original post, but Massachusetts likes to install "BEGIN" signs for the majority of their interstates.

An example I was actually wondering about concerned Massachusetts interstates.  I seem to recall that at the I90/395/290 interchange there are "END 395/BEGIN 290" and "END 290/BEGIN 395" on the respective pull-through signage, so if those routes terminate with "END" signage on their other termini then they'd fit the condition I was looking for in the OP.

It may not be what you're looking for, but this is the best MassDOT has of an END I-290 sign:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7142%2F6463204869_cfe963f012_z.jpg&hash=28de5d3047c22a67fb9e147bc04137dc51f21a0d)
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: pianocello on December 06, 2011, 04:37:01 PM
I believe he's referring to something like this (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.535631,-90.334396&spn=0.000128,0.077162&sll=41.560491,-90.609827&sspn=0.004592,0.006866&vpsrc=6&gl=us&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=41.535616,-90.351232&panoid=du2T43dK9hCbkPkeX8Bj5Q&cbp=12,121.64,,0,9.7)?
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Takumi on December 06, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
Some of mine...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KY_3icOWrGQ/Tt6OkutkcYI/AAAAAAAAAb0/gD-NqIazY4o/s309/0406091529.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bz1otwSL7iw/Tt6OvNZS9OI/AAAAAAAAAcA/jQ-n7Ejrys4/s700/IMAG0365.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7FwEdpA8_vs/Tt6Ou3215pI/AAAAAAAAAb8/qjCK-30eB4I/s700/IMAG0366.jpg)

(extreme close-up happened due to my camera being all the way zoomed in without my knowledge)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BK4Y_vBTJms/Tt6O8pBYIZI/AAAAAAAAAcM/ln4re1TG66c/s700/IMAG0032.jpg)

Most of the end signs I've seen are there when a through movement is ahead.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 06, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
these two are right next to each other, in opposite directions, at the western terminus of Baja California state route 4.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/092997.jpg)

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/092999.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: OCGuy81 on December 07, 2011, 11:24:33 PM
QuoteSometimes the JCT plate is used on the road itself.  Outside of that xonhulu is correct.  The one rare instance of this in Wisconsin is on I-794/WIS 794 in Milwaukee.

Isn't JCT used for southbound US-51 traffic meeting with I-39 near Wausa?  Or is there a BEGIN sign for I-39?
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: txstateends on December 08, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on December 07, 2011, 11:24:33 PM
QuoteSometimes the JCT plate is used on the road itself.  Outside of that xonhulu is correct.  The one rare instance of this in Wisconsin is on I-794/WIS 794 in Milwaukee.

Isn't JCT used for southbound US-51 traffic meeting with I-39 near Wausa?  Or is there a BEGIN sign for I-39?

Just checked Google Street View, and I only saw the regular BGSes and the first SOUTH I-39/US 51 shield set.  There might have been missed angles, but also part of the way south, the camera gets that fuzzy-foggy center effect, so it's difficult to read some of the BGSes.  I did notice while checking that the overhead angle is a trumpet (old picture?), while the map drawing and the Street View is just regular flyovers.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: roadfro on December 10, 2011, 12:49:09 AM
Nevada tends to use begin and end banners in marking state routes, especially in urban areas where the road may continue beyond the terminus of the state highway. Sometimes it will be a begin plate, sometimes just the cardinal direction, and sometime it is both.

The "Begin" plate was actually just added to the 2009 MUTCD, although as an optional sign. Prior to this, it was not a standard sign but many jurisdictions used it to complement the standard "end" plate.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on December 10, 2011, 01:56:35 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2078%2F2268635488_729a50d845_z.jpg&hash=e3b0e20637c3bf8f9293b121c636dfd727420ce4) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/2268635488/)

And on the other side...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2131%2F2267844757_36f5b8d66b_z.jpg&hash=7f0a8e5410560d252a317e769abfda8adb269dbd) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/2267844757/)

I don't have pictures but there is a BEGIN VA 199 shield and an END VA 199 shield at the other end of VA 199 as well. In Hanover County, the intersection of VA 156, SR 636, and SR 643 was signed with BEGIN and END shields for the secondary routes (which is quite rare). This may not be the case now since the intersection was reconstructed.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2413%2F2262791662_869057d743_z.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=ec247361c854b771ca81491947ea5c4882d2f248) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/2262791662/)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2397%2F2262000465_8c7e2ffc5f_z.jpg&hash=2822248916332b50c9442f5156f146640a9c9374) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/2262000465/)

Quote from: Takumi on December 06, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KY_3icOWrGQ/Tt6OkutkcYI/AAAAAAAAAb0/gD-NqIazY4o/s309/0406091529.jpg)

The sign in the opposite direction:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3011%2F2303230947_10aa08406c_z.jpg&hash=d6bfc42cc5ab41b74dfc9cfa0e85e9e50dae1bb3) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/2303230947/)

Quote from: Takumi on December 06, 2011, 04:57:32 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BK4Y_vBTJms/Tt6O8pBYIZI/AAAAAAAAAcM/ln4re1TG66c/s700/IMAG0032.jpg)

Disregard the watermark:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3398%2F3425265351_61738583eb_z.jpg&hash=fa91e1aa68ed0d0bd04ae2c4d8ae201bd359323a) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/3425265351/)
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 10, 2011, 02:45:06 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoZeYI.jpg&hash=e40291f9cb57334adf3c441bf606c9e45c11e009)

Nearing the end of I-93 South in the Canton, MA area. This was taken in February of 2011.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Takumi on December 10, 2011, 10:18:44 AM
Thanks for those. I didn't see any begin/end shields for 636 or 643 when I drove it in June, but considering all the error shields there then, I should go check up on it.
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on January 14, 2012, 12:46:36 AM
I hate to necropost, but these have appeared in Richmond recently (as in, within the last couple weeks):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7170%2F6693365223_5c8142c3f5_z.jpg&hash=9d8678eae2c050881ccdb916ccf4e2a7dab6e724) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/6693365223/)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7173%2F6693365737_b059eae364_z.jpg&hash=d2dd0f79db957167dcafa1cd0f3319b6ed282f02) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/6693365737/)

And of course, to go along with that END VA 76 setup, on the other side there's always been:

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...and (erroneously):

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Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: Takumi on January 14, 2012, 09:59:32 AM
What's erroneous about the last one? Location?
Title: Re: Beginnings and endings
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on January 14, 2012, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: Takumi on January 14, 2012, 09:59:32 AM
What's erroneous about the last one? Location?

Basically yeah. As it stands, VA 76 begins twice. That second shield should either not have a BEGIN banner or it should be an END VA 146 shield.