Highways sometimes called by an incorrect (not former) name

Started by Streetman, November 15, 2024, 07:53:52 PM

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GaryA

Many folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).


JayhawkCO

I think the only possible example for CO is a lot of signs having C-470 (way more so than E-470) be shown in an interstate shield. No one calls it I-470 out loud though.

bing101

Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PMMany folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Especially those from Sacramento and Bay Area visiting LA we call the entire section from the south end of CA-99 @ I-5 interchange to Santa Clarita Grapevine.  But once I got here I heard of locals calling it Ridge Route. 

pderocco

Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PMMany folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Well, Ridge Route Road does run right along the SB side of I-5 (in the section where the sides are swapped), so I can see referring to that piece of freeway as the Ridge Route too. It's one of the few places where you can drive on a freeway frontage road and have cars coming in the other direction on your left.

hbelkins

Two examples from Estill County, KY. KY 1645 (Kirkland Avenue) is frequently referred to as "Old Pike." KY 1571 (Millers Creek Road) is often called "River Road," although that's mostly by residents of Lee and Owsley counties who use the route as an alternate to a mountainous stretch of KY 52.
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DTComposer

Quote from: bing101 on November 18, 2024, 04:24:15 PM
Quote from: GaryA on November 18, 2024, 02:18:38 PMMany folks refer to I-5 in CA between Castaic (or even Santa Clarita) and the Central Valley as "the Grapevine".  Grapevine Canyon is only a small part of that, from Lebec down to the valley.

I had an uncle that referred to this section as "the Ridge Route", but that name was for the old highway (not sure how common this was, though).
Especially those from Sacramento and Bay Area visiting LA we call the entire section from the south end of CA-99 @ I-5 interchange to Santa Clarita Grapevine.  But once I got here I heard of locals calling it Ridge Route.

To be fair, the media (particularly traffic reporters) in L.A. use The Grapevine for that whole stretch, so it makes sense that the public follows along.

And I wouldn't be surprised if some people thought grapevine referred to the cross-over section of I-5 just north of Castaic (twisted up like two strands of a vine).

bing101

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https://www.dailyrepublic.com/news/vacaville-dixon-winters/section-of-i-505-dedicated-to-kirk-hollywood-griess/article_39e6bd90-107c-5ded-bf7b-9ed34f8eeea0.html

This is not a mistake I-505 Vacaville is also known as the Hollywood Freeway because it's named after a former CHP officer from Vacaville named Kirk Griess whose nickname was Hollywood. Note locals call this freeway I-505 or Highway 505. But if you do a search on Hollywood Freeway the history would focus more on the history of CA-170 and US-101 in the Los Angeles area.

Quote"I think about him every day," Lyman said Thursday at a private memorial highway dedication ceremony for Kirk A. Griess held at the Valley Church in Vacaville.
The event was streamed live on the CHP Facebook page.

The section of Interstate 505 between Vaca Valley Parkway and the Interstate 80 interchange will forever now be known as the CHP Officer Kirk "Hollywood" Griess Memorial Highway.
Assemblyman Jim Frazier, D-Fairfield, who introduced the resolution that paved the way for the dedication, chuckled at the legislative fight to include the nickname "Hollywood" on the sign, and quipped that it is his greatest legislative achievement.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahuenga,_California

Here is the original name for Hollywood, California and its Cahuenga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Freeway

Here is the Original Hollywood Freeway before I-505 used the name for a different reason.





Quillz

The Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

roadman65

In Orange County, FL people so much referred to Old Dixie Highway as Orange Avenue the county renamed their part of Old Dixie as Orange Avenue.

Both Old Dixie Highway and Orange Avenue were both CR 527 so that is why the reference. However both roads were misaligned at Zell Drive until the current realignment connected the two directly adding a bridge over the CSX tracks, and yet people considered the turns at Zell as part of Orange Avenue.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

bing101

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Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.
Yes I had relatives from LA when they visit me here in Fairfield and they are on a tour from Davis to San Francisco I heard them refer to I-505 as "The 505 Freeway" because I-505 sounds like it belongs in Southern California. But locals call it I-505 or Highway 505.  Also technically Vacaville is west of Sacramento.


DTComposer

Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

The San Diego Freeway name officially includes both all of I-405 and I-5 from Irvine to CA-94 in San Diego, so it's technically correct (although I don't recall seeing the San Diego Freeway name being signed on I-5).

bing101

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/before-the-carmageddon-a-photographic-look-at-the-construction-of-5-socal-freeways

It turns out the Hollywood freeways original name is Cahuenga Freeway before Caltrans renamed it the Hollywood Freeway for the LA district. 

QuoteConstruction for the new Cahuenga Freeway causes a traffic jam in the pass, 1939. The Cahuenga Freeway opened in 1940, connecting Hollywood to the San Fernando Valley. In the 1950s, the freeway was widened, extended to downtown Los Angeles, and renamed the Hollywood Freeway. Courtesy of the Los Angeles Examiner Collection, USC Libraries.

https://lamag.com/news/citydig-when-trolley-tracks-divided-the-101

Also the Cahuenga Freeway had a trolley line at its median before it was renamed Hollywood Freeway now "The 170" and "The 101" freeways by current locals. Yes this is 5 decades before I-105 had a light rail line at its median. 

bing101

Quote from: DTComposer on November 20, 2024, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

The San Diego Freeway name officially includes both all of I-405 and I-5 from Irvine to CA-94 in San Diego, so it's technically correct (although I don't recall seeing the San Diego Freeway name being signed on I-5).
Interestingly I-405 Los Angeles was originally going to be named as Sepulveda Freeway.

https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ca/i-405/

http://www.gribblenation.org/2019/05/interstate-405-carmageddon-on-san-diego.html

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/how-sepulveda-canyon-became-the-405

That's until the entire freeway of I-405 was completed from the El Toro Y to Sylmar this is when San Diego freeway became the name now simply as "The 405" by current locals.

DTComposer

Quote from: bing101 on November 21, 2024, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: DTComposer on November 20, 2024, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Quillz on November 20, 2024, 06:54:03 AMThe Hollywood Freeway being north of Sacramento is almost as bizarre as the San Diego Freeway being in Los Angeles and not San Diego. Should make for some fun trivia nights.

The San Diego Freeway name officially includes both all of I-405 and I-5 from Irvine to CA-94 in San Diego, so it's technically correct (although I don't recall seeing the San Diego Freeway name being signed on I-5).
Interestingly I-405 Los Angeles was originally going to be named as Sepulveda Freeway.

https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ca/i-405/

http://www.gribblenation.org/2019/05/interstate-405-carmageddon-on-san-diego.html

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/lost-la/how-sepulveda-canyon-became-the-405

That's until the entire freeway of I-405 was completed from the El Toro Y to Sylmar this is when San Diego freeway became the name now simply as "The 405" by current locals.

To be completely accurate, Caltrans named it the San Diego Freeway in 1954, nearly 15 years before the Orange County section of I-405 was completed:

http://cahighways.org/ROUTE405.html

http://cahighways.org/maps-sc-fwy-pt2.html

gonealookin

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

Quote from: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PMIn California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).

Sigh.  We tried twice to tell you and you still whiffed on it.  Today's SFGate article on SR 1 flooding

Quote from: Matt LaFever, North Coast Contributing Editor of SFGateCalifornia's iconic Highway 1, also known as the Pacific Coast Highway, is fully closed in Mendocino County due to flooding. Officials announced this afternoon that the closure is "north of Point Arena near the Garcia River," with no estimated reopening time.

chrisg69911

Radio news reporters call the I-95 approach to the GWB "80/95" even though I-80 ends at its intersection with I-95

Quillz

Quote from: gonealookin on November 21, 2024, 09:42:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

Quote from: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PMIn California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).

Sigh.  We tried twice to tell you and you still whiffed on it.  Today's SFGate article on SR 1 flooding

Quote from: Matt LaFever, North Coast Contributing Editor of SFGateCalifornia's iconic Highway 1, also known as the Pacific Coast Highway, is fully closed in Mendocino County due to flooding. Officials announced this afternoon that the closure is "north of Point Arena near the Garcia River," with no estimated reopening time.

Good timing on my part. Was just up there about a month ago. Planning to go back to the redwoods in January since it's usually the rainy season. Might have to detour. (Although the last time that part of the highway flooded, it reopened fairly quickly).

plain

I've heard people refer to I-195 in Richmond as the Powhite Pkwy, even though the Parkway doesn't begin until just south of VA 147 where the interstate branches off of the physical roadway.
Newark born, Richmond bred

DTComposer

Quote from: gonealookin on November 21, 2024, 09:42:50 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2024, 08:52:55 PMThe segments of CA 1 north of the Rincon Causeway are consistently called "Pacific Coast Highway."  The actual designation are Cabrillo Highway and Shoreline Highway.

Quote from: Quillz on November 16, 2024, 07:04:30 PMIn California, almost everyone I know will refer to CA-1 as "PCH." That has only ever applied to the SoCal alignment (and historically was the original CA-3). The NorCal segments are Cabrillo Highway (SLO to SF) and Shoreline Highway (Bay Area to Redwood Curtain).

Sigh.  We tried twice to tell you and you still whiffed on it.  Today's SFGate article on SR 1 flooding

Quote from: Matt LaFever, North Coast Contributing Editor of SFGateCalifornia's iconic Highway 1, also known as the Pacific Coast Highway, is fully closed in Mendocino County due to flooding. Officials announced this afternoon that the closure is "north of Point Arena near the Garcia River," with no estimated reopening time.

Even more annoying considering that's a Bay Area news site, and the reporter is from the North Coast (a Humboldt State Cal Poly Humboldt grad). I'd understand a little more if it was an L.A. Times article.

roadman65

Quote from: chrisg69911 on November 21, 2024, 09:54:21 PMRadio news reporters call the I-95 approach to the GWB "80/95" even though I-80 ends at its intersection with I-95

Some people would call Route 139 in Jersey City as one and nine when giving out traffic on air for the Holland Tunnel. There were two approaches to the Holland. The Turnpike ( Newark Bay Extension) or the One and Nine.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

boilerup25

More New Jersey here:

Calling US 46 in Ledgewood between I-80 and NJ 10 "Route 10"
Calling NJ 495 "Route 3"

TheStranger

Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2024, 02:31:28 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on November 21, 2024, 09:54:21 PMRadio news reporters call the I-95 approach to the GWB "80/95" even though I-80 ends at its intersection with I-95

Some people would call Route 139 in Jersey City as one and nine when giving out traffic on air for the Holland Tunnel. There were two approaches to the Holland. The Turnpike ( Newark Bay Extension) or the One and Nine.

IIRC, 139 is former (Business) 1 and 9 though.
Chris Sampang

Big John


Takumi

When my dad lived in Greensboro in the early 2000s, he worked on one of the early segments of I-73 there and knew about the then-upcoming I-840, but thought the latter was an existing surface road. I don't remember which road he thought was 840, but it wasn't even in the area of the metro where it ended up getting built. I think it was a road in the Jamestown area, possibly what was then High Point Road, now Gate City Boulevard.
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democraticnole

Many people in Tampa incorrectly call the I-275 bridge over Tampa Bay the "Howard Franklin Bridge" when it is the "Howard Frankland Bridge."



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