Suburban Streets that Default to Freeway Ramps

Started by roadman65, December 30, 2024, 04:27:00 AM

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gonealookin

Lawrence Way in Walnut Creek, CA defaults to an on-ramp to northbound I-680.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/MCgVcZivNQz6mNaB8

Lawrence Way was built around 1990, while I-680 was being extensively expanded in that area.  It's a one-way street whose primary purpose is serving as a nearly half-mile-long on-ramp; it does go through the signal shown in that GSV before turning into an actual on-ramp though.  The original on-ramp departed North Main Street much closer to the freeway, and its removal and functional replacement by Lawrence Way cleared some land for commercial development (now a car dealership and a hotel).


Revive 755

#26
Going off "freeway" being the design standard/functional classificaton for the road:

Downers Drive in Downers Grove, IL defaults into an entrance ramp to WB I-88

Probably further pushing the intent, but since there's a driveway before the ramp starts Spring Road may count in Oak Brook (turns into a ramp to WB I-88).

Edit:

Muegge Road around St. Charles, MO used to default into an entrance/exit for MO 364

Another pushing the intent example, but Schaefer Drive defaults to an entrance ramp to a short freeway section of SB US 67 in the St. Louis area.

CtrlAltDel

#27
Arrellaga Street at US-101 in Santa Barbara, California
It's essentially a RIRO, but with city-street rules, such as curbside parking, right at the end of the ramp. I used to wait for the express bus to UC Santa Barbara at that stop, and there was someone who would exit northbound US-101, park right across the street, and then take the bus the rest of the way to campus, presumably to save on parking.


Ridgeview Street at I-44 in Sapulpa, Oklahoma
I used this ramp at about 1 o'clock in the morning to get back on southbound I-44 after having mistakenly taken the old exit 221-B to OK-66. I had no GPS, and was navigating by guesswork until I spotted some signs at the intersection with 96th Street. I followed them to into a seemingly abandoned area, which I found a bit unsettling until I got to the actual ramp.

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roadman65

#28
I should have brought up in the title streets that remain as such until the last moment before it merged.  Those in the OP transformed at a traffic signal where the crossroad isn't even another street, but entrances to parking lots.

Onto another location you have MLK Drive in St Petersburg at its north end where it becomes the ramp onto the Howard Frankland Bridge which is I-275.

You do have  a Last U Turn sign at the last median break ( as there is no crossroads at the change from street to ramp) but doesn't explain the nature of " Last" meaning. There is curve too beyond the median break so those not familiar with the area won't see the freeway merge until after the curve with no place else to u turn or exit.  Once your on I-275 it's 7 miles to exit the first freeway ramp and across the Tampa Bay.
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Ketchup99

On its north end, State College, PA's Atherton Street northbound turns into ramps for I-99 southbound towards Altoona. (Paradoxical, I know; in reality, both roads travel roughly west.) At the same intersection, Valley Vista Drive northbound intersects Atherton and then defaults into I-99 northbound ramps. On its south end, by which time it's known as Boal Avenue, it turns into ramps for US 322 eastbound. And in the northeastern part of town, Park Avenue eastbound defaults into ramps for I-99 northbound.

vdeane

Quote from: Ketchup99 on January 12, 2025, 10:52:29 AMPA's Atherton Street northbound turns into ramps for I-99 southbound towards Altoona. (Paradoxical, I know; in reality, both roads travel roughly west.
How is it going "northbound"?  The street is clearly east-west, Business US 322 is signed east-west (as is US 322 itself)... am I missing something?
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7/8

Quite a few in Waterloo Region, ON:

1) Two at the same interchange, on-and-off ramps for Highway 85 become Farmers Market Rd and Martin Grove Rd: https://maps.app.goo.gl/sgf5WAGaFrKzADb98
2) King Street becomes on-and-off ramps for Highway 8 east of Dixon St/Montgomery Rd. This is because this portion of Highway 8 was built on top of King St (which results in a strange gap in King St): https://maps.app.goo.gl/XDT4UWHHkW8VyS3e7
3) Alpine Road becomes into on-and-off ramps for Highway 7/8 at the Ottawa St roundabout: https://maps.app.goo.gl/RVDSKR8zZwNUPiDfA
4) Greenbrook Drive becomes into on-and-off ramps for Highway 7/8 at Fischer-Hallman Rd: https://maps.app.goo.gl/zais4bapWhGgWkYh9
5) Overland Drive turns into on-and-off ramps for Highway 7/8 at Courtland Ave: https://maps.app.goo.gl/BSyyXEFCNgPB6gxDA
6) Sportsworld Crossing Road becomes on-and-off ramps for Highway 8 at Sportsworld Dr: https://maps.app.goo.gl/w8KmqkQDQ1Kk4XPLA
7) Off ramp for Highway 401 becomes New Dundee Rd: https://maps.app.goo.gl/akdJYRVs3FosiCAv9

TheHighwayMan3561

In MSP a number of folded diamonds will have frontage roads defaulting on and off of freeway ramps.
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index

Does the I-85 Connector in Charlotte, NC at Sandy Ave count?

Ketchup99

Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2025, 03:20:03 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on January 12, 2025, 10:52:29 AMPA's Atherton Street northbound turns into ramps for I-99 southbound towards Altoona. (Paradoxical, I know; in reality, both roads travel roughly west.
How is it going "northbound"?  The street is clearly east-west, Business US 322 is signed east-west (as is US 322 itself)... am I missing something?

Nope, I don't think you're missing anything. For reasons that I will never understand, State College aligns itself around the east-west axis of the one-way pair of College and Beaver Avenues downtown. So Atherton got tagged with the north-south label, and is signed as "North Atherton Street" west of town and "South Atherton" east of it. Similarly, PA 26 - which mostly runs north-south through the area, and is signed as such - is split into "West College Avenue," running south to Pine Grove Mills, and "East College Avenue," running north towards Bellefonte. Makes no sense. Never will...

vdeane

Quote from: Ketchup99 on January 14, 2025, 09:44:10 PMNope, I don't think you're missing anything. For reasons that I will never understand, State College aligns itself around the east-west axis of the one-way pair of College and Beaver Avenues downtown. So Atherton got tagged with the north-south label, and is signed as "North Atherton Street" west of town and "South Atherton" east of it. Similarly, PA 26 - which mostly runs north-south through the area, and is signed as such - is split into "West College Avenue," running south to Pine Grove Mills, and "East College Avenue," running north towards Bellefonte. Makes no sense. Never will...
Especially since it should have been obvious that College and Beaver are north-south by the way the mountains go.
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Dirt Roads

Quote from: index on January 13, 2025, 06:10:27 PMDoes the I-85 Connector in Charlotte, NC at Sandy Ave count?

Sorry, not quite.  But the I-85 Connector was part of the first section of Interstate to open in North Carolina.  The official 1965 map of Mecklenburg County indicates that Sandy Avenue hadn't yet been constructed.  It wasn't until 1971 that a short section of I-85 northeast of there bypassed that original section of Interstate leaving behind this connector.  When it opened in 1958, the connector was also the eastern end of Bypass US-29 that followed this original section of Interstate, but US-29 reverted back to its old routing some 5 years after.

By the way, you'll notice that the original routing of the I-85 Connector ended at an interchange with US-29 and NC-49 before the latter was reconfigured to connect with University City Drive.  By 1970, that original section of NC-49 had been converted to a fourlane all the way up to the UNC Charlotte campus.  I wonder what UNC Charlotte would look like today if it still was directly connected to I-85 like it was originally.

(By the way, 1965 Mecklenburg Map is misidentified as 1968 on the UNC mapping website.  But it is really cool how UNC has overlaid a bunch of old maps onto a current GIS mapping system.  Click the "Fade Historic Map" checkbox to get a good look at the overlapping features.  It doesn't work well for some maps, but this overlay is very impressive).

Henry

#37
Ohio (EB) and Ontario Street (WB) at I-90/I-94 (once planned for the original I-494, which was not the same as the Crosstown Expressway)
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DandyDan

Council Bluffs, Iowa has NB N. 16th Street, which defaults onto NB I-29, and W. Broadway, which becomes I-480. At one point NB N. 35th St. defaulted onto NB I-29, but that was eliminated with the recent freeway reconstruction.

In DeKalb, IL, Annie Glidden Road turns into the I-88 entrance ramps.
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rushfan01760

Manchaug Road in Sturbridge, MA SB to I-84 West near CT
Highland Avenue in Fall River, MA NB to Rte. 24 North

DandyDan

The one other instance from my travels is McDonald Drive in Lawrence, KS turning into the ramps to I-70
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ElishaGOtis

I-Drive/World Center Drive turns into the NB on/off ramp at SR-417/CFL Greenaway in Orlando would be a good candidate.

Another few instances would be in Jacksonville, with Gator Bowl Blvd at US-1A, Main St South/US 90 before the Main St Bridge, US-17/SR-228 before I-10/Roosevelt Expwy, and Monroe/Adams at I-95.
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RobbieL2415

Quote from: rushfan01760 on January 22, 2025, 01:34:31 PMManchaug Road in Sturbridge, MA SB to I-84 West near CT
Highland Avenue in Fall River, MA NB to Rte. 24 North

That is not a suburban street. That is old MA 15, which when it was connected to old CT 15, formed a continuous route through the state and into NYC proper.


GaryV

Quote from: thspfc on February 03, 2025, 02:45:30 PM14th St in Hudson WI
How is that default? You can turn either direction instead of going straight onto the ramp.

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thspfc

Quote from: GaryV on February 03, 2025, 04:29:12 PM
Quote from: thspfc on February 03, 2025, 02:45:30 PM14th St in Hudson WI
How is that default? You can turn either direction instead of going straight onto the ramp.

I guess I interpreted going straight as the "default" option.



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