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Started by mrsman, January 23, 2025, 07:18:30 AM

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1995hoo

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 24, 2025, 07:54:08 AM
Quote from: GaryV on January 23, 2025, 09:15:40 AMIf you count ferries as having tolls, and only thinking about automobile access:
  • Sugar Island, Neebish Island and Drummond Island in the St Marys River
  • Harsens Island in the St Clair River
  • Madeline Island in Lake Superior
  • Beaver Island, Washington Island and Rock Island in Lake Michigan
  • Bois Blanc Island in Lake Huron
You forgot Mackinac Island and Isle Royale. You aren't getting to either one of those islands without paying.

I don't think you're getting an automobile to either one of them, though.
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RobbieL2415

Quote from: Rothman on January 23, 2025, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on January 23, 2025, 06:32:01 PMThe entire Hudson River Valley south of and including the Castleton-On-Hudson Bridge is a toll island in the eastbound direction.

Pfft.  Albany bridges aren't that far away.

Trains have to make the trek to Selkirk Yard to cross the Hudson...

Well, diesel locomotives do. Electric locomotives can still use the North River Tunnels to cross the Hudson.

GaryV

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 24, 2025, 07:54:08 AM
Quote from: GaryV on January 23, 2025, 09:15:40 AMIf you count ferries as having tolls, and only thinking about automobile access:
  • Sugar Island, Neebish Island and Drummond Island in the St Marys River
  • Harsens Island in the St Clair River
  • Madeline Island in Lake Superior
  • Beaver Island, Washington Island and Rock Island in Lake Michigan
  • Bois Blanc Island in Lake Huron




You forgot Mackinac Island and Isle Royale. You aren't getting to either one of those islands without paying.

But you're not going to get your car there.

plain

Does Port Fourchon in Louisiana count?
Newark born, Richmond bred

JayhawkCO

Lots of talks about ferries, but no one had mentioned all of the stops on the Alaska Marine Highway that aren't reachable from "Outside":

Akutan
Angoon
Chenega Bay
Chignik
Cold Bay
Cordova
False Pass
Gustavus
Hoonah
Juneau
Kake
Ketchikan
King Cove
Kodiak
Metlakatla
Ouzinkie
Petersburg
Port Lions
Sand Point
Seldovia
Sitka
Tatitlek
Tenakee Springs
Unalaska/Dutch Harbor
Wrangell
Yakutat

Rothman

Quote from: JayhawkCO on January 24, 2025, 11:45:44 AMLots of talks about ferries, but no one had mentioned all of the stops on the Alaska Marine Highway that aren't reachable from "Outside":

Akutan
Angoon
Chenega Bay
Chignik
Cold Bay
Cordova
False Pass
Gustavus
Hoonah
Juneau
Kake
Ketchikan
King Cove
Kodiak
Metlakatla
Ouzinkie
Petersburg
Port Lions
Sand Point
Seldovia
Sitka
Tatitlek
Tenakee Springs
Unalaska/Dutch Harbor
Wrangell
Yakutat

Pfft.  Whatever.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

dantheman

Mount Washington State Park in New Hampshire. To my knowledge, it's also the only state park in New England that is accessible only via a private road.

Flint1979

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 24, 2025, 08:21:17 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 24, 2025, 07:54:08 AM
Quote from: GaryV on January 23, 2025, 09:15:40 AMIf you count ferries as having tolls, and only thinking about automobile access:
  • Sugar Island, Neebish Island and Drummond Island in the St Marys River
  • Harsens Island in the St Clair River
  • Madeline Island in Lake Superior
  • Beaver Island, Washington Island and Rock Island in Lake Michigan
  • Bois Blanc Island in Lake Huron
You forgot Mackinac Island and Isle Royale. You aren't getting to either one of those islands without paying.

I don't think you're getting an automobile to either one of them, though.
Yeah that's true I didn't even think of that lol.

Road Hog

Great Britain?

Rothman

Quote from: dantheman on January 24, 2025, 07:46:22 PMMount Washington State Park in New Hampshire. To my knowledge, it's also the only state park in New England that is accessible only via a private road.

Meh.  I mean, NY has toll roads up mountains as well (e.g., Whiteface Mountain).  Toll islands in the sky.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

RobbieL2415

Quote from: Rothman on January 24, 2025, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: dantheman on January 24, 2025, 07:46:22 PMMount Washington State Park in New Hampshire. To my knowledge, it's also the only state park in New England that is accessible only via a private road.

Meh.  I mean, NY has toll roads up mountains as well (e.g., Whiteface Mountain).  Toll islands in the sky.
That road is designated (but not signed) NY 431 and is maintained by the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation. Weird.

Rothman

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on January 25, 2025, 05:22:20 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 24, 2025, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: dantheman on January 24, 2025, 07:46:22 PMMount Washington State Park in New Hampshire. To my knowledge, it's also the only state park in New England that is accessible only via a private road.

Meh.  I mean, NY has toll roads up mountains as well (e.g., Whiteface Mountain).  Toll islands in the sky.
That road is designated (but not signed) NY 431 and is maintained by the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation. Weird.

Eh, it's not that cut-and-dry.  NYSDOT has financed work on the road.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

vdeane

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on January 25, 2025, 05:22:20 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 24, 2025, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: dantheman on January 24, 2025, 07:46:22 PMMount Washington State Park in New Hampshire. To my knowledge, it's also the only state park in New England that is accessible only via a private road.

Meh.  I mean, NY has toll roads up mountains as well (e.g., Whiteface Mountain).  Toll islands in the sky.
That road is designated (but not signed) NY 431 and is maintained by the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation. Weird.
NY 431 is signed, and its signage never struck me as particularly sparse, especially as it's only 8 miles long.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

jay8g

In Washington, Vashon Island and the San Juan Islands are only reachable by ferry, meaning there's no free way to get there by car or foot.

The same is true for many islands in BC, including Vancouver Island, which has to be one of the largest "toll islands". Ferry fares are quite expensive in BC, too (much more expensive than in Washington). There are even some areas that require 2 or 3 separate ferry rides (with separate fares) to access from the mainland.

From the BC Ferries route map, Hornby Island, Texada Island, and Cortes Island all require three ferries/"tolls" for access. I wonder if there is anywhere out there that has four or more separate tolls required for access from the nearest "mainland" area.

RG470

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 23, 2025, 08:09:42 AMSome portion of Singapore has a congestion charge. What I don't know is whether the bridges/causeways from Malaysia are all tolled. At least one of them is.

Hi! Singaporean here. Yes, I believe both the Woodlands Causeway and Second Link have tolls. Tolls are a part of daily life here in Singapore, there's no escaping them, especially since Singapore only has open road tolling since 1998.

oscar

#40
Quote from: JayhawkCO on January 24, 2025, 11:45:44 AMLots of talks about ferries, but no one had mentioned all of the stops on the Alaska Marine Highway that aren't reachable from "Outside":

...

Tenakee Springs

An additional wrinkle is that you can take a ferry to Tenakee Springs, but you can't take your car there. Only public service vehicles, like the fire truck, and golf carts or ATVs are allowed on the town's short and narrow main street. That the only place on the Alaska ferry system where you can't take your car.
my Hot Springs and Highways pages, with links to my roads sites:
http://www.alaskaroads.com/home.html

RG470

My local parking garage.



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