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Title: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: dvferyance on October 15, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Since there has been past radio discussions I thought this should be fun what stations do you usually get on AM at night? I will start mine here.

540 WAUK local
550 KTRS St louis MO some nights
560 WIND Chicago IL solid both day and night
570 nothing
580 sometimes the public radio station out of Champaign
590 Nothing I can identify with
600 WMT Cedar Rapids IA some nights
610 nothing
620 WTMJ local
630 nothing
640 The station out of Peatone IL don't know the calls
650 WSB Nashville TN solid most nights
660 Usually nothing rare occasion WFAN out of New York
670 WSCR Chciago IL solid both days and nights
680 nothing
690 Some station from Montreal
700 WLW Cincinati OH solid most nights
710 nothing
720 WGN Chicago IL solid both day and night
730 Typically nothing I once got the station from Merrill WI
740 station out of Toronto
750 WSB Atlanta GA solid most nights
760 WJR Detroit MI solid most nights
770 Ocasionaly WABC from New York
780 WBBM Chicago solid day and night
790 nothing
800 station from Windsor ON
810 WGY Albany NY most nights
820 WBAP Fort Worth TX some nights
830 WCCO Minneapolis MN most nights
840 WHAS Louisville KY solid most nights
850 KOA Denver CO some nights
860 WNOV local the station from Toronto sometimes mixes in
870 WWL New Orleans LA most nights
880 WCBS New York most nights
890 WLS Chicago IL suprisingly weak some nights
900 Some sation from Hamilton ON
910 Nothing
920 WOKY local
930 Nothing
940 Usually nothing now would sometimes get the station from Montreal some nights when it was on
950 Nothing I can identify
960 Some station out of South Bend IN
970 Nothing I can idenify
980 Station out of Dayton OH
990 Station out of Winnepeg MB
1000 WMVP Chicago IL
1010 Station out of Toronto
1020 KDKA Pittsburgh PA
1030 WBZ Boston MA
1040 WHO Des Moines IA
1050 nothing
1060 Station out of Philly
1070 nothing
1080 nothing I can idenitfy
1090 Usually KAAY from Little Rock AR have ocasionaly picked up WBAL Baltimore MD
I will leave it at that for now







Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: 1995hoo on October 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Ours looks like this. Same as it does during the day, other than the time being different.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181016/c82f387f2cba00e25349a0f0a292d3be.jpg)

:bigass:
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MNHighwayMan on October 15, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Ours looks like this. Same as it does during the day, other than the time being different.

I had a similar idea regarding the radio in my car. :-D
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: dvferyance on October 15, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 15, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Ours looks like this. Same as it does during the day, other than the time being different.

I had a similar idea regarding the radio in my car. :-D
Good grief after seeing what I wrote you should know what I meant what stations do you pick up at night?
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 15, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on October 15, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
...
1060 Station out of Philly

KYW News Radio 1060.

Traffic on the 2s.

Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: jp the roadgeek on October 16, 2018, 03:07:15 AM
530-550: Nothing
560: Moderate signal of WHYN in Springfield
570-590: Nothing
600: Rimshot of a local station
610: Very feint signal of a local station
620-650: Nothing
660: WFAN in New York, pretty much city grade both day and night
670: Waves of WSCR in Chicago when the atmosphere is right
680: Rimshot-low signal of WRKO in Boston
690: Rimshot-low signal of CKGM in Montreal
700: Rimshot of WLW in Cincinnati
710: Somewhat solid signal day and night of WOR in New York
720: Waves of WGN in Chicago when the atmosphere is right
730: Rimshot of CKAC in Montreal
740: Nothing
750: Waves of WSB in Atlanta when the atmosphere is right
760: Waves of WJR in Detroit when the atmosphere is right
770: Pretty solid signal of WABC in New York
780: Waves of WBBM in Chicago when the atmosphere is right
790-800: Nothing
810: Moderately strong signal of WGY in Albany
820-830: Nothing
840: Waves of WHAS in Louisville when the atmosphere is right (local station powers down at night)
850-870: Nothing
880: WCBS, pretty much city-grade
890: Rimshot of WLS in Chicago
900: Rimshot of ESPN Radio in Hamilton, ON
910: Local Hispanic station
920-950: Nothing (though I used to get 940 in Montreal pretty well before it went dark)
960: Moderate signal of WELI in New Haven (better during the day)
970-980: Nothing
990: Local station that powers way down at night, but being less than 2 miles from the tower, I can get it 24/7
1000: Rimshot of WMVP in Chicago
1010: Moderate signal of 1010 WINS in NYC
1020: Rimshot of KDKA in Pittsburgh
1030: Pretty strong signal of WBZ 1030 in Boston
1040: Nothing
1050: Moderate signal of WEPN in NYC
1060: Rimshot of KYW in Philly
1070: Nothing
1080: City grade signal of WTIC in Hartford
1090: Rimshot of WBAL in Baltimore
1100: Rimshot of WTAM in Cleveland
1110: Rimshot of WBT in Charlotte
1120: Local hispanic station (can pick up KMOX in St. Louis when the atmosphere is right and I'm more than 20 miles away)
1130: Low/moderate signal of WBBR in NYC
1140: Nothing
1150: Local station
1160-1170: Nothing
1180: Pretty strong signal of WHAM in Rochester
1190-1200: Nothing
1210: Low/moderate signal of WPHL in Philly

From here up, there's really not much other than a few local stations, with the only distant stations being 1500 WFED in DC (rimshot to low); 1520 WWKB in Buffalo (moderate); and 1530 WCKY in Cincinnati (rimshot)
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: kevinb1994 on October 16, 2018, 03:25:35 AM
550: WAYR
600: WBOB
690: WOKV
930: WFXJ
970: WNNR
1010: WJXL
1050: WROS
1160: WEWC
1170: WSOS
1190: WWIO
1220: WKTZ
1240: WFOY
1320: WJNJ
1360: WCGL
1400: WZAZ
1420: WAOC
1460: WQOP
1530: WYMM
1570: WVOJ
1600: WZNZ
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: 1995hoo on October 16, 2018, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on October 15, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 15, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Ours looks like this. Same as it does during the day, other than the time being different.

I had a similar idea regarding the radio in my car. :-D
Good grief after seeing what I wrote you should know what I meant what stations do you pick up at night?

Of course we knew what you meant, but your subject line was too good to resist.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: abefroman329 on October 16, 2018, 07:32:13 AM
I don't know, I don't listen to AM radio during the day or at night. Not interested in political or sports talk radio.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: txstateends on October 16, 2018, 08:02:52 AM
I should try some night to see what my radio picks up.  Something tells me I won't get much beyond the locals.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: abefroman329 on October 16, 2018, 09:12:07 AM
Being able to pick up clear-channel (not to be confused with Clear Channel) stations at night was pretty cool when I was a kid, and it was a nice little taste of home to be able to pick up the various clear-channel stations out of Chicago at night when we moved to GA in 1993.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Henry on October 16, 2018, 09:35:37 AM
This is a complete list of the clear-channel stations in North America by frequency, and I'm sure you'll get them at night:

530: N/A
540: CBK/Watrous, SK, CBT/Grand Falls, NL, XEWA/San Luis Potosi, MX
550: N/A
560: N/A
570: N/A
580: N/A
590: N/A
600: N/A
610: N/A
620: N/A
630: N/A
640: CBN/St. Johns, NL, KFI/Los Angeles, KYUK/Bethel, AK
650: WSM/Nashville, KENI/Anchorage
660: WFAN/New York, KFAR/Fairbanks
670: WSCR/Chicago, KDLG/Dillingham, AK
680: KNBR/San Francisco, KBRW/Barrow, AK
690: CKGM/Montreal, XEWW/Tijuana, MX
700: WLW/Cincinnati, KBYR/Anchorage
710: WOR/New York
720: WGN/Chicago, KOTZ/Kotzebue, AK
730: CKAC/Montreal
740: CFZM/Toronto
750: WSB/Atlanta, KFQD/Anchorage
760: WJR/Detroit
770: WABC/New York, KCHU/Valdez, AK
780: WBBM/Chicago, KNOM/Nome, AK
790: N/A
800: XEROK/Ciudad Juarez, MX
810: KGO/San Francisco, WGY/Schenectady, NY
820: WBAP/Fort Worth, KCBF/Fairbanks
830: WCCO/Minneapolis
840: WHAS/Louisville
850: KOA/Denver, KICY/Nome, AK
860: CJBC/Toronto
870: WWL/New Orleans
880: WCBS/New York
890: WLS/Chicago, KBBI/Homer, AK
900: XEW/Mexico City, MX
910: N/A
920: N/A
930: N/A
940: CFNV/Montreal
950: N/A
960: N/A
970: N/A
980: N/A
990: CBW/Winnipeg
1000: KOMO/Seattle
1010: CBR/Calgary, CFRB/Toronto
1020: KDKA/Pittsburgh, KVNT/Eagle River, AK
1030: WBZ/Boston
1040: WHO/Des Moines
1050: XEG/Monterrey, MX
1060: KYW/Philadelphia, XEEP/Mexico City
1070: KNX/Los Angeles
1080: KRLD/Dallas, WTIC/Hartford, KOAN/Anchorage
1090: KAAY/Little Rock, WBAL/Baltimore, XEPRS/Rosarito, MX
1100: WTAM/Cleveland
1110: KFAB/Omaha, WBT/Charlotte
1120: KMOX/St. Louis
1130: CKWX/Vancouver, KWKH/Shreveport, WBBR/New York
1140: WRVA/Richmond, XEMR/Monterey, MX
1150: N/A
1160: KSL/Salt Lake City
1170: KFAQ/Tulsa, WWVA/Wheeling, KJNP/North Pole, AK
1180: WHAM/Rochester
1190: KEX/Portland, XEWK/Guadalajara, MX
1200: WOAI/San Antonio
1210: WPHT/Philadelphia
1220: XEB/Mexico City, MX
1230: N/A
1240: N/A
1250: N/A
1260: N/A
1270: N/A
1280: N/A
1290: N/A
1300: N/A
1310: N/A
1320: N/A
1330: N/A
1340: N/A
1350: N/A
1360: N/A
1370: N/A
1380: N/A
1390: N/A
1400: N/A
1410: N/A
1420: N/A
1430: N/A
1440: N/A
1450: N/A
1460: N/A
1470: N/A
1480: N/A
1490: N/A
1500: KSTP/St. Paul, WFED/Washington
1510: WLAC/Nashville
1520: KOKC/Oklahoma City, WWKB/Buffalo
1530: KFBK/Sacramento, WCKY/Cincinnati
1540: KXEL/Waterloo
1550: CBEF/Windsor
1560: KNZR/Bakersfield, WFME/New York
1570: XERF/Ciudad Acuna, MX
1580: CKDO/Oshawa, ON
1590: N/A
1600: N/A
1610: N/A
1620: N/A
1630: N/A
1640: N/A
1650: N/A
1660: N/A
1670: N/A
1680: N/A
1690: N/A
1700: N/A
1710: N/A
1720: N/A
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Road Hog on October 16, 2018, 11:50:54 AM
KAAY 1090 no longer broadcasts at full strength at night.

My favorite station when I was a kid wasn't any of the local FM stations, it was WLS at night – the last of the big AM Top 40 blowtorches. Sad day when they flipped to talk.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: jp the roadgeek on October 16, 2018, 12:09:47 PM
WTIC 1080 in Hartford is also a 50k Clear Channel station which boasts it can be heard in 23 states and Eastern Canada at night.  I've picked it up as far away as 10 miles from Quebec City and from Columbia, MD (far enough away from WBAL towers). 
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: ghYHZ on October 16, 2018, 12:50:50 PM
Unlike the rest of Canada where the call signs begin with "˜C" ....there are 4 stations in Newfoundland that still retain their "VO"  call sign that was issued to them prior to Newfoundland joining Canada in 1949. 

http://vocm.com/
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 16, 2018, 03:26:25 PM
1080: Radio Huesca.

I still have to check the rest of the band, though. And unlike in the USA, the AM band in Europe goes in 9 kHz increments, so it is perfectly possible to get a station on 666 :evilgrin: (And there is one I know of).
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: briantroutman on October 16, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 15, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
KYW News Radio 1060.

Pronunciation guide (N.B.: sung): Kay-why-duh–bull-you! News-ray–dee-oh! Ten-six-tee!
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: jp the roadgeek on October 16, 2018, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on October 16, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 15, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
KYW News Radio 1060.

Pronunciation guide (N.B.: sung): Kay-why-duh–bull-you! News-ray–dee-oh! Ten-six-tee!


Second only to: <drum roll> da-da-da-da-dadat-dadadaaa-da-da-da-da-daaaaaaaaaaa-da-da-da-da-daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: GaryV on October 16, 2018, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 16, 2018, 07:20:46 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on October 15, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 15, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 15, 2018, 09:15:14 PM
Ours looks like this. Same as it does during the day, other than the time being different.

I had a similar idea regarding the radio in my car. :-D
Good grief after seeing what I wrote you should know what I meant what stations do you pick up at night?

Of course we knew what you meant, but your subject line was too good to resist.
Like the one on a computer Q&A board:  "How to get the first date".  Sure, they meant the earliest date in the database.  But considering the geek-factor stereotype of IT developers ....
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 18, 2018, 10:53:47 AM
I'll just do the stations I know off the top of my head:

620: WTMJ (Milwaukee) comes in decent at night.
650: WSM (Nashville) pretty strong
660: WFAN (New York) some nights are stronger than others but it comes in pretty good almost every night
670: WSCR (Chicago) solid every night
700: WLW (Cincinnati) solid every night
710: WOR (New York) so-so some nights
720: WGN (Chicago) solid every night
750: WSB (Atlanta) pretty strong station
760: WJR (Detroit) solid 24 hours a day
770: WABC (New York) pretty solid most nights
780: WBBM (Chicago) I have a local station on 790 that overrides it sometimes but at night 780 comes in pretty good
790: WSGW (Saginaw, MI) since I mentioned it on 780 this is the station that gives the override and it comes in strong all the time
810: WGY (Albany, NY) this station comes in pretty good most nights
820: WBAP (Fort Worth, TX) I have had this station come in before but most nights it's pretty faint, I have heard it pretty strong before though
830: WCCO (Twin Cities, MN) strong almost every night
840: WHAS (Louisville, KY) strong station
880: WCBS (New York) has it's moments where it struggles to come in but most of the time is pretty strong
890: WLS (Chicago) probably Chicago's weakest 50,000 watt station if you ask me but it still comes in pretty good
950: WWJ (Detroit) strong 24 hours a day
1000: WMVP (Chicago) strong at night
1020: KDKA (Pittsburgh) solid station
1030: WBZ (Boston) one of the strongest stations on the east coast probably due to me being right in line with their transmitter a little over 650 miles away
1040: WHO (Des Moines) solid
1060: KYW (Philadelphia) solid most nights
1100: WTAM (Cleveland) solid
1120: KMOX (St. Louis) very strong station
1180: WHAM (Rochester, NY) solid on most nights
1210: WPHT (Philadelphia) solid most nights
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MikeTheActuary on October 18, 2018, 12:10:27 PM
I had a nice chat with someone in Greenland on 1817kHz last night.  Heard a Hungarian at 1814, but he didn't hear me very well.

Of course, since that was CW, rather than AM, I suppose that doesn't really count for purposes of this discussion.  :)

(Map of some contacts made from 1800kHz up through 148MHz: http://www.hrdlog.net/Map2.aspx?user=N1EN  The light blue dots are the ones made adjacent to the AM broadcast band.)
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on October 19, 2018, 04:13:17 AM
I see a green circle just inside North Korea? That would be quite a feat. But nope, it's (barely) in South Korea. I like how do you have contacts with really remote islands, including all notable DX-peditions listed on Wikipedia.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: nexus73 on October 19, 2018, 11:00:08 AM
On the south coast of Oregon the strongest clear channel signal is KGO 810 AM.  Plenty of other stations come in but the one from San Francisco really brings the punch!

Rick
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: hbelkins on October 19, 2018, 11:10:29 AM
I grew up listening to Reds games on WLW and Kentucky Wildcats basketball games on WHAS, and also Kentucky Colonels games (the old ABA) on WHAS. My dad also occasionally listened to WSM to hear the Grand Ole Opry.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 19, 2018, 12:06:09 PM
About a month ago I was talking to a friend of mine that told me he clearly heard WJR in Manchester, England. I just asked him what time of the day this happened and he said it was about 4 in the morning in England and he clearly heard them mention the Fisher Building so he knew it was WJR. As a matter of fact WJR will be celebrating it's 90th year in the Fisher Building in December.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MikeTheActuary on October 20, 2018, 09:15:41 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on October 19, 2018, 04:13:17 AM
I see a green circle just inside North Korea? That would be quite a feat. But nope, it's (barely) in South Korea. I like how do you have contacts with really remote islands, including all notable DX-peditions listed on Wikipedia.

My three favorite contacts are:

VK6FZM/MM, which was the crew that activated Amsterdam Island, while on their way back to Perth.  At the time I worked them, they were pretty close to the antipode of where I was operating from, which I thought was really cool

RI1ANF on 160m (the ham band just above the AM broadcast band).  I heard them and worked them, feeling very surprised that I could get into Russia on that frequency. Only the next day did I look him up, and realize that he was stationed at a base in the South Shetland Islands.

NA1SS (not shown) -- The International Space Station.  I helped a bunch of middle schoolers talk to an astronaut on the ISS.  That was extremely cool.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: dvferyance on October 24, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
I will finish my list
1100 WTAM Cleveland OH good most nights
1110 KFAB Omaha NE some nights
1120 KMOX St Louis MO hard to get due to local WISN being next door
1130 WISN local
1140 nothing mostly WRVA from Richmond VA comes in if I get farther out
1150 WHBY Appleton WI faint signal some nights
1160 WYLL Chicago IL good most nights
1170 WWVA Wheeling WV some nights
1180 the station from Rochester NY good most nights
1190 WOWO Ft Wayne IN some nights
1200 WOAI San Antonio TX some nights
1210 station from Philadelphia PA good most nights
1220 Nothing I can identify
1230 Nothing
1240 Nothing
1250 WSSP local
1260 nothing
1270 Ocasionaly the station from Detroit
1280 Nothing
1290 Nothing
1300 Nothing
1310 Some station from Canada ocasionally
1320-1420 Mostly just slop I once got the 1370 station from Toledo
1430 Occasioanly a astation from Indianapolis
1440 Nothing
1450 Nothing
1460 Local
1470 Station from Peoria IL
1480 Nothing
1490 Nothing
1500 KSTP St Paul MN some nights
1510 WLAC Nashville TN Good most nights
1520 Either state station from Oklahama City or Rochester MN
1530 WCKY Cincinati OH Good most nights
A will leave it at that
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 25, 2018, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on October 24, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
I will finish my list
1100 WTAM Cleveland OH good most nights
1110 KFAB Omaha NE some nights
1120 KMOX St Louis MO hard to get due to local WISN being next door
1130 WISN local
1140 nothing mostly WRVA from Richmond VA comes in if I get farther out
1150 WHBY Appleton WI faint signal some nights
1160 WYLL Chicago IL good most nights
1170 WWVA Wheeling WV some nights
1180 the station from Rochester NY good most nights
1190 WOWO Ft Wayne IN some nights
1200 WOAI San Antonio TX some nights
1210 station from Philadelphia PA good most nights
1220 Nothing I can identify
1230 Nothing
1240 Nothing
1250 WSSP local
1260 nothing
1270 Ocasionaly the station from Detroit
1280 Nothing
1290 Nothing
1300 Nothing
1310 Some station from Canada ocasionally
1320-1420 Mostly just slop I once got the 1370 station from Toledo
1430 Occasioanly a astation from Indianapolis
1440 Nothing
1450 Nothing
1460 Local
1470 Station from Peoria IL
1480 Nothing
1490 Nothing
1500 KSTP St Paul MN some nights
1510 WLAC Nashville TN Good most nights
1520 Either state station from Oklahama City or Rochester MN
1530 WCKY Cincinati OH Good most nights
A will leave it at that
You get WXYT in Wisconsin? I always thought that station had a pretty weak signal. It's the station you mentioned from Detroit on 1270. It's 50,000 watts but isn't a clear channel signal and the transmitter is almost in Monroe.

You want to hear something funny though. Tonight I was sitting my car going all the way through the band I started at 620 and WTMJ wasn't really coming in that well but I could understand everything being said and I get to 760 and think WJR should come in better than it does for being a 50,000 watt clear channel signal and this was at almost midnight. What I heard on 760 was a scrambled up mess like two stations were fighting each other with WJR coming in behind it in the background, I have no clue what station WJR would be fighting with in my area I only live 97 miles from their transmitter. WLW was coming in the best and I didn't go much further past 760 so I didn't get up to KMOX or any of those stations. Does WJR sound clear over there in Wisconsin at night like no other station is messing with it? I mean that's really not that far away but far enough that you probably don't get it very well during the day time. I'm just surprised, I grew up listening to WJR when it was REALLY the great voice of the Great Lakes and that station was a force. I remember being in Georgia coming home from Florida in 1995 and was listening to WJR south of Macon when I heard them break the news on the Oklahoma City bombing. It comes in great going to the south on the I-75 corridor until you get a little ways into Florida.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 03:10:54 AM
Here's what came in tonight.  I have a suspicion that some of my unidentified stations are pirates.   My results are probably not typical as I have large antennas and a very sensitive receiver.  Jumbles of multiple weak stations are omitted, and  stations without locations are mostly local to me.

560 WHYN
570 WSYR (Syracuse)
600 WICC?
610 WSNG
640 WNNZ
660 WFAN
670 WSCR (Chicago) and unid Latin music
700 WLW (Cincinnati)
710 WOR (NYC) and WAQI (Miami)
720 WGN (Chicago) and 1 other
730 WACE
740 CFZM (Toronto)
750 WSB (Atlanta)
760 WJR (Detroit)
770 WABC (NYC)
780 WBBM? (Chicago)
800 CKLW Windsor
810 WGY (Schenectady) + one other
830 WCCO (Minneapolis) + WCRN (Worcester)
840 WHAS (Louisville) and WRYM (Hartford)
860 CJBC (Toronto)
870 WWL (New Orleans)
880 WCBS (NYC)
890 WLS (Chicago)
900 CHML (Hamilton, ON)
910 WLAT
1010 WINS (NYC) and CFRB (Toronto)
1020 KDKA (Pittsburgh)
1030 WBZ (Boston)
1040 WHO (Des Moines) and unid country
1060 KYW (Philadelphia) and others
1080 WTIC
1100 WTAM (Cleveland)
1110 WBT (Charlotte)
1120 WPRX
1130 WDFN (Detroit)?
1170 WCTF
1210 WPHT (Philadelphia)
1230 WNEZ
1240 WWCO
1250 WARE
1270 WACN
1290 WNWW
1320 WATR
1360 WDRC
1410 WPOP
1450 WHLL
1480 WKND
1490 WSPR
1500 WFED (Washington DC)
1520 WWKB (Buffalo)
1530 WCKY (Cincinnati)
1540 KXEL (Waterloo, IA) + 2 others
1550 WSDK
1560 WFME (NYC)
1570 XERF-AM (Ciduad Acuña) behind unid. Latin music
1580 CKDO (Oshawa)
1600 WLZX
1610 CHRN (Montréal)
1620 unid Latin music
1660 WWRU (Jersey City)
1670 unid Latin+English music
1690 WPTX (Lexington Park, MD)
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 03:10:54 AM
Here's what came in tonight.  I have a suspicion that some of my unidentified stations are pirates.   My results are probably not typical as I have large antennas and a very sensitive receiver.  Jumbles of multiple weak stations are omitted, and  stations without locations are mostly local to me.

560 WHYN
570 WSYR (Syracuse)
600 WICC?
610 WSNG
640 WNNZ
660 WFAN
670 WSCR (Chicago) and unid Latin music
700 WLW (Cincinnati)
710 WOR (NYC) and WAQI (Miami)
720 WGN (Chicago) and 1 other
730 WACE
740 CFZM (Toronto)
750 WSB (Atlanta)
760 WJR (Detroit)
770 WABC (NYC)
780 WBBM? (Chicago)
800 CKLW Windsor
810 WGY (Schenectady) + one other
830 WCCO (Minneapolis) + WCRN (Worcester)
840 WHAS (Louisville) and WRYM (Hartford)
860 CJBC (Toronto)
870 WWL (New Orleans)
880 WCBS (NYC)
890 WLS (Chicago)
900 CHML (Hamilton, ON)
910 WLAT
1010 WINS (NYC) and CFRB (Toronto)
1020 KDKA (Pittsburgh)
1030 WBZ (Boston)
1040 WHO (Des Moines) and unid country
1060 KYW (Philadelphia) and others
1080 WTIC
1100 WTAM (Cleveland)
1110 WBT (Charlotte)
1120 WPRX
1130 WDFN (Detroit)?
1170 WCTF
1210 WPHT (Philadelphia)
1230 WNEZ
1240 WWCO
1250 WARE
1270 WACN
1290 WNWW
1320 WATR
1360 WDRC
1410 WPOP
1450 WHLL
1480 WKND
1490 WSPR
1500 WFED (Washington DC)
1520 WWKB (Buffalo)
1530 WCKY (Cincinnati)
1540 KXEL (Waterloo, IA) + 2 others
1550 WSDK
1560 WFME (NYC)
1570 XERF-AM (Ciduad Acuña) behind unid. Latin music
1580 CKDO (Oshawa)
1600 WLZX
1610 CHRN (Montréal)
1620 unid Latin music
1660 WWRU (Jersey City)
1670 unid Latin+English music
1690 WPTX (Lexington Park, MD)
Where are you located? I was reading your list and surprised to see WDFN 1130AM out of Detroit on the list with all the other ones. That's because WDFN powers down to 10,000 watts at night but runs at 50,000 watts on a class B signal. It has a funny nighttime signal and I don't know what station they are protecting on 1130 I'm thinking probably either WISN out of Milwaukee or WBBR out of NYC, probably WISN though.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 11:13:30 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
Where are you located? I was reading your list and surprised to see WDFN 1130AM out of Detroit on the list with all the other ones. That's because WDFN powers down to 10,000 watts at night but runs at 50,000 watts on a class B signal. It has a funny nighttime signal and I don't know what station they are protecting on 1130 I'm thinking probably either WISN out of Milwaukee or WBBR out of NYC, probably WISN though.

I'm outside Hartford CT....but I was doing this with ham radio gear.   I had made a couple of European contacts around 1810-1825 just before their sunrise, running only 100w, so my results may not be typical.

It wasn't WBBR...or more correctly, WBBR wasn't the dominant broadcast in what I was hearing.   I'm familiar with them, but New York is skip-zone distance to me, so even clear channel broadcasters can be difficult to hear, depending on their tower array and broadcast pattern.   I could "pick them out of the mud", but I was focusing on clearly dominant signals  in my list.

My ad-blocker and annoyance-blocker plugins on my browser make online streaming of broadcast radio stations hit-or-miss, and I wasn't able to test through those means whether it was WDFN or WISN.  Both stations are at 10kW at night, and their FCC records indicate both have tight beams to the north at night...so I was puzzled.  And, of course, as with most frequencies I was hearing multiple stations.   If I had waited around for station ID or a local commercial, I could have figured it out (or the band could have changed and given me something else to listen to)...but given that I was trying to make a relatively quick pass up the band, I had to conclude that WDFN was the least implausible candidate.

One of the reasons I enjoy playing with radio is that sometimes very implausible things happen.  It's very cool to be there when they do.  :)
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 11:13:30 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
Where are you located? I was reading your list and surprised to see WDFN 1130AM out of Detroit on the list with all the other ones. That's because WDFN powers down to 10,000 watts at night but runs at 50,000 watts on a class B signal. It has a funny nighttime signal and I don't know what station they are protecting on 1130 I'm thinking probably either WISN out of Milwaukee or WBBR out of NYC, probably WISN though.

I'm outside Hartford CT....but I was doing this with ham radio gear.   I had made a couple of European contacts around 1810-1825 just before their sunrise, running only 100w, so my results may not be typical.

It wasn't WBBR...or more correctly, WBBR wasn't the dominant broadcast in what I was hearing.   I'm familiar with them, but New York is skip-zone distance to me, so even clear channel broadcasters can be difficult to hear, depending on their tower array and broadcast pattern.   I could "pick them out of the mud", but I was focusing on clearly dominant signals  in my list.

My ad-blocker and annoyance-blocker plugins on my browser make online streaming of broadcast radio stations hit-or-miss, and I wasn't able to test through those means whether it was WDFN or WISN.  Both stations are at 10kW at night, and their FCC records indicate both have tight beams to the north at night...so I was puzzled.  And, of course, as with most frequencies I was hearing multiple stations.   If I had waited around for station ID or a local commercial, I could have figured it out (or the band could have changed and given me something else to listen to)...but given that I was trying to make a relatively quick pass up the band, I had to conclude that WDFN was the least implausible candidate.

One of the reasons I enjoy playing with radio is that sometimes very implausible things happen.  It's very cool to be there when they do.  :)
Wow ok you might be able to help me out then. I've been into CB radio but haven't been active on it in about six years or so. I still have an IMAX 2000 in the air so I was thinking I might be able to use that antenna to pull in AM radio stations but I was never sure if it would work. I always love to hear about how far WJR's reach is since that's my nearest 50,000 watt blowtorch and I've had trouble with that station lately I'm about 97 miles from the transmitter but then will go down to 700 and WLW is blowing smoke up this way.

I'm assuming it could have been WDFN since that signal would be closer to you than WISN but with your location I thought New York stations would come in better up that way. That could be my problem with WJR being in the skip-zone distance from me, I drove right up next to their transmitter because I wanted to see what a 50,000 watt signal sounded like right next to the tower and as I drove away the first 50 miles wasn't bad but after that it was hit or miss. I would indeed be in that tight beam to the north for WDFN I'll have to try that one to see I'd like to get about halfway between Milwaukee and Detroit probably around the Grand Rapids area or somewhere in between Lansing and Grand Rapids to see what comes in out that way.

I get that a lot too with multiple stations coming in. A lot of the 50,000 watt blowtorches that are between 500 and 1,000 miles away come in great. WSB in Atlanta comes in pretty solid, KMOX in St. Louis with where St. Louis is located might have the biggest reach in the country. When the Cardinals were in the World Series in 2011 their first year back on KMOX as their flagship station one of my friends who's a Cardinals fan left St. Louis about 2-3 hours before game time and kept it on KMOX. He wanted to see if he could lose KMOX before the Cardinals game was over. He told me he started driving west on I-70 and was about 50 miles east of Kansas City when the game started and said that he got around Hays, Kansas when the game got over and that KMOX was still coming in strong. He said it was like he never left St. Louis that's how it was coming in. I mean Hays is over 250 miles from Kansas City let alone how far it is from St. Louis lol.

I'll have to try WDFN when they power down tonight to see how it comes in here. I was looking at their transmitter site and it looks like it might have a directional antenna pattern. It's about 4 miles south of WJR's transmitter but I don't think WJR would effect the signal. I'm not sure how listened to WDFN is though, it's a sports station and most people listen to 97.1 The Ticket for Detroit sports.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
Wow ok you might be able to help me out then. I've been into CB radio but haven't been active on it in about six years or so. I still have an IMAX 2000 in the air so I was thinking I might be able to use that antenna to pull in AM radio stations but I was never sure if it would work.

If you could make the connection, you probably would receive signals through that antenna, but I doubt that you would get much improvement.  I was connected to a 150 foot long wire antenna, with a similar-length folded counterpoise to get an adequate RF ground.  Still not a resonant antenna for AM broadcast, but better than what most people listen to.

Most of the AM broadcast stations have charts on file in the FCC database that show what their daytime and nighttime radiation patterns are; easiest way to access them is through the link usually found at the bottom of the Wikipedia page for the station.  That's how I know that both WDFN and WISE have a narrow beam north (which is why it's odd that I heard one of them -- either it was a fluke, or they aren't transmitting in the pattern they're licensed to use)

New York at night....while the details depending on how the ionosphere is doing and the towers being used by the broadcaster, there is a zone where you are too far to hear the signal via groundwave, but too near to hear the signals via skywave.  For me, last night, New York City was near that zone.  I could hear most of the NYC high power stations....but it wasn't easy.


I'm assuming it could have been WDFN since that signal would be closer to you than WISN but with your location I thought New York stations would come in better up that way. That could be my problem with WJR being in the skip-zone distance from me, I drove right up next to their transmitter because I wanted to see what a 50,000 watt signal sounded like right next to the tower and as I drove away the first 50 miles wasn't bad but after that it was hit or miss. I would indeed be in that tight beam to the north for WDFN I'll have to try that one to see I'd like to get about halfway between Milwaukee and Detroit probably around the Grand Rapids area or somewhere in between Lansing and Grand Rapids to see what comes in out that way.

I get that a lot too with multiple stations coming in. A lot of the 50,000 watt blowtorches that are between 500 and 1,000 miles away come in great. WSB in Atlanta comes in pretty solid, KMOX in St. Louis with where St. Louis is located might have the biggest reach in the country. When the Cardinals were in the World Series in 2011 their first year back on KMOX as their flagship station one of my friends who's a Cardinals fan left St. Louis about 2-3 hours before game time and kept it on KMOX. He wanted to see if he could lose KMOX before the Cardinals game was over. He told me he started driving west on I-70 and was about 50 miles east of Kansas City when the game started and said that he got around Hays, Kansas when the game got over and that KMOX was still coming in strong. He said it was like he never left St. Louis that's how it was coming in. I mean Hays is over 250 miles from Kansas City let alone how far it is from St. Louis lol.

I'll have to try WDFN when they power down tonight to see how it comes in here. I was looking at their transmitter site and it looks like it might have a directional antenna pattern. It's about 4 miles south of WJR's transmitter but I don't think WJR would effect the signal. I'm not sure how listened to WDFN is though, it's a sports station and most people listen to 97.1 The Ticket for Detroit sports.
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Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: dvferyance on October 26, 2018, 09:08:06 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 25, 2018, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: dvferyance on October 24, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
I will finish my list
1100 WTAM Cleveland OH good most nights
1110 KFAB Omaha NE some nights
1120 KMOX St Louis MO hard to get due to local WISN being next door
1130 WISN local
1140 nothing mostly WRVA from Richmond VA comes in if I get farther out
1150 WHBY Appleton WI faint signal some nights
1160 WYLL Chicago IL good most nights
1170 WWVA Wheeling WV some nights
1180 the station from Rochester NY good most nights
1190 WOWO Ft Wayne IN some nights
1200 WOAI San Antonio TX some nights
1210 station from Philadelphia PA good most nights
1220 Nothing I can identify
1230 Nothing
1240 Nothing
1250 WSSP local
1260 nothing
1270 Ocasionaly the station from Detroit
1280 Nothing
1290 Nothing
1300 Nothing
1310 Some station from Canada ocasionally
1320-1420 Mostly just slop I once got the 1370 station from Toledo
1430 Occasioanly a astation from Indianapolis
1440 Nothing
1450 Nothing
1460 Local
1470 Station from Peoria IL
1480 Nothing
1490 Nothing
1500 KSTP St Paul MN some nights
1510 WLAC Nashville TN Good most nights
1520 Either state station from Oklahama City or Rochester MN
1530 WCKY Cincinati OH Good most nights
A will leave it at that
You get WXYT in Wisconsin? I always thought that station had a pretty weak signal. It's the station you mentioned from Detroit on 1270. It's 50,000 watts but isn't a clear channel signal and the transmitter is almost in Monroe.

You want to hear something funny though. Tonight I was sitting my car going all the way through the band I started at 620 and WTMJ wasn't really coming in that well but I could understand everything being said and I get to 760 and think WJR should come in better than it does for being a 50,000 watt clear channel signal and this was at almost midnight. What I heard on 760 was a scrambled up mess like two stations were fighting each other with WJR coming in behind it in the background, I have no clue what station WJR would be fighting with in my area I only live 97 miles from their transmitter. WLW was coming in the best and I didn't go much further past 760 so I didn't get up to KMOX or any of those stations. Does WJR sound clear over there in Wisconsin at night like no other station is messing with it? I mean that's really not that far away but far enough that you probably don't get it very well during the day time. I'm just surprised, I grew up listening to WJR when it was REALLY the great voice of the Great Lakes and that station was a force. I remember being in Georgia coming home from Florida in 1995 and was listening to WJR south of Macon when I heard them break the news on the Oklahoma City bombing. It comes in great going to the south on the I-75 corridor until you get a little ways into Florida.
I can even sometimes faintly get WJR during the day. It comes at least ok most nights. As far as 1270 goes I have only gotten that station on rare occasion it's not like it comes in every night.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: dvferyance on October 26, 2018, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 03:10:54 AM
Here's what came in tonight.  I have a suspicion that some of my unidentified stations are pirates.   My results are probably not typical as I have large antennas and a very sensitive receiver.  Jumbles of multiple weak stations are omitted, and  stations without locations are mostly local to me.

560 WHYN
570 WSYR (Syracuse)
600 WICC?
610 WSNG
640 WNNZ
660 WFAN
670 WSCR (Chicago) and unid Latin music
700 WLW (Cincinnati)
710 WOR (NYC) and WAQI (Miami)
720 WGN (Chicago) and 1 other
730 WACE
740 CFZM (Toronto)
750 WSB (Atlanta)
760 WJR (Detroit)
770 WABC (NYC)
780 WBBM? (Chicago)
800 CKLW Windsor
810 WGY (Schenectady) + one other
830 WCCO (Minneapolis) + WCRN (Worcester)
840 WHAS (Louisville) and WRYM (Hartford)
860 CJBC (Toronto)
870 WWL (New Orleans)
880 WCBS (NYC)
890 WLS (Chicago)
900 CHML (Hamilton, ON)
910 WLAT
1010 WINS (NYC) and CFRB (Toronto)
1020 KDKA (Pittsburgh)
1030 WBZ (Boston)
1040 WHO (Des Moines) and unid country
1060 KYW (Philadelphia) and others
1080 WTIC
1100 WTAM (Cleveland)
1110 WBT (Charlotte)
1120 WPRX
1130 WDFN (Detroit)?
1170 WCTF
1210 WPHT (Philadelphia)
1230 WNEZ
1240 WWCO
1250 WARE
1270 WACN
1290 WNWW
1320 WATR
1360 WDRC
1410 WPOP
1450 WHLL
1480 WKND
1490 WSPR
1500 WFED (Washington DC)
1520 WWKB (Buffalo)
1530 WCKY (Cincinnati)
1540 KXEL (Waterloo, IA) + 2 others
1550 WSDK
1560 WFME (NYC)
1570 XERF-AM (Ciduad Acuña) behind unid. Latin music
1580 CKDO (Oshawa)
1600 WLZX
1610 CHRN (Montréal)
1620 unid Latin music
1660 WWRU (Jersey City)
1670 unid Latin+English music
1690 WPTX (Lexington Park, MD)
Where are you located? I was reading your list and surprised to see WDFN 1130AM out of Detroit on the list with all the other ones. That's because WDFN powers down to 10,000 watts at night but runs at 50,000 watts on a class B signal. It has a funny nighttime signal and I don't know what station they are protecting on 1130 I'm thinking probably either WISN out of Milwaukee or WBBR out of NYC, probably WISN though.
Mostly likely WISN during dawn WDFN sometimes mixes in with WISN. Also don't forget KLTK in Minneapolis.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 09:17:44 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
Wow ok you might be able to help me out then. I've been into CB radio but haven't been active on it in about six years or so. I still have an IMAX 2000 in the air so I was thinking I might be able to use that antenna to pull in AM radio stations but I was never sure if it would work.

If you could make the connection, you probably would receive signals through that antenna, but I doubt that you would get much improvement.  I was connected to a 150 foot long wire antenna, with a similar-length folded counterpoise to get an adequate RF ground.  Still not a resonant antenna for AM broadcast, but better than what most people listen to.

Most of the AM broadcast stations have charts on file in the FCC database that show what their daytime and nighttime radiation patterns are; easiest way to access them is through the link usually found at the bottom of the Wikipedia page for the station.  That's how I know that both WDFN and WISE have a narrow beam north (which is why it's odd that I heard one of them -- either it was a fluke, or they aren't transmitting in the pattern they're licensed to use)

New York at night....while the details depending on how the ionosphere is doing and the towers being used by the broadcaster, there is a zone where you are too far to hear the signal via groundwave, but too near to hear the signals via skywave.  For me, last night, New York City was near that zone.  I could hear most of the NYC high power stations....but it wasn't easy.


I'm assuming it could have been WDFN since that signal would be closer to you than WISN but with your location I thought New York stations would come in better up that way. That could be my problem with WJR being in the skip-zone distance from me, I drove right up next to their transmitter because I wanted to see what a 50,000 watt signal sounded like right next to the tower and as I drove away the first 50 miles wasn't bad but after that it was hit or miss. I would indeed be in that tight beam to the north for WDFN I'll have to try that one to see I'd like to get about halfway between Milwaukee and Detroit probably around the Grand Rapids area or somewhere in between Lansing and Grand Rapids to see what comes in out that way.

I get that a lot too with multiple stations coming in. A lot of the 50,000 watt blowtorches that are between 500 and 1,000 miles away come in great. WSB in Atlanta comes in pretty solid, KMOX in St. Louis with where St. Louis is located might have the biggest reach in the country. When the Cardinals were in the World Series in 2011 their first year back on KMOX as their flagship station one of my friends who's a Cardinals fan left St. Louis about 2-3 hours before game time and kept it on KMOX. He wanted to see if he could lose KMOX before the Cardinals game was over. He told me he started driving west on I-70 and was about 50 miles east of Kansas City when the game started and said that he got around Hays, Kansas when the game got over and that KMOX was still coming in strong. He said it was like he never left St. Louis that's how it was coming in. I mean Hays is over 250 miles from Kansas City let alone how far it is from St. Louis lol.

I'll have to try WDFN when they power down tonight to see how it comes in here. I was looking at their transmitter site and it looks like it might have a directional antenna pattern. It's about 4 miles south of WJR's transmitter but I don't think WJR would effect the signal. I'm not sure how listened to WDFN is though, it's a sports station and most people listen to 97.1 The Ticket for Detroit sports.
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Might be able to do it if I could ever find an adaptor for the coax and hook it up to a radio. I have one of those little rubber antennas but the stations still come in pretty good. I know WBZ has a very directional antenna but with where Boston is located I guess it would be pointless to send all that signal over open water. New York at night for me is hit or miss, I can get some of the bigger stations like WFAN, WABC, WCBS but WOR is a harder one at times. In order to get a station like WBBM though I have to get out of my area a little ways due to the override from a local station on 790.



Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on October 26, 2018, 09:10:57 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on October 26, 2018, 03:10:54 AM
Here's what came in tonight.  I have a suspicion that some of my unidentified stations are pirates.   My results are probably not typical as I have large antennas and a very sensitive receiver.  Jumbles of multiple weak stations are omitted, and  stations without locations are mostly local to me.

560 WHYN
570 WSYR (Syracuse)
600 WICC?
610 WSNG
640 WNNZ
660 WFAN
670 WSCR (Chicago) and unid Latin music
700 WLW (Cincinnati)
710 WOR (NYC) and WAQI (Miami)
720 WGN (Chicago) and 1 other
730 WACE
740 CFZM (Toronto)
750 WSB (Atlanta)
760 WJR (Detroit)
770 WABC (NYC)
780 WBBM? (Chicago)
800 CKLW Windsor
810 WGY (Schenectady) + one other
830 WCCO (Minneapolis) + WCRN (Worcester)
840 WHAS (Louisville) and WRYM (Hartford)
860 CJBC (Toronto)
870 WWL (New Orleans)
880 WCBS (NYC)
890 WLS (Chicago)
900 CHML (Hamilton, ON)
910 WLAT
1010 WINS (NYC) and CFRB (Toronto)
1020 KDKA (Pittsburgh)
1030 WBZ (Boston)
1040 WHO (Des Moines) and unid country
1060 KYW (Philadelphia) and others
1080 WTIC
1100 WTAM (Cleveland)
1110 WBT (Charlotte)
1120 WPRX
1130 WDFN (Detroit)?
1170 WCTF
1210 WPHT (Philadelphia)
1230 WNEZ
1240 WWCO
1250 WARE
1270 WACN
1290 WNWW
1320 WATR
1360 WDRC
1410 WPOP
1450 WHLL
1480 WKND
1490 WSPR
1500 WFED (Washington DC)
1520 WWKB (Buffalo)
1530 WCKY (Cincinnati)
1540 KXEL (Waterloo, IA) + 2 others
1550 WSDK
1560 WFME (NYC)
1570 XERF-AM (Ciduad Acuña) behind unid. Latin music
1580 CKDO (Oshawa)
1600 WLZX
1610 CHRN (Montréal)
1620 unid Latin music
1660 WWRU (Jersey City)
1670 unid Latin+English music
1690 WPTX (Lexington Park, MD)
Where are you located? I was reading your list and surprised to see WDFN 1130AM out of Detroit on the list with all the other ones. That's because WDFN powers down to 10,000 watts at night but runs at 50,000 watts on a class B signal. It has a funny nighttime signal and I don't know what station they are protecting on 1130 I'm thinking probably either WISN out of Milwaukee or WBBR out of NYC, probably WISN though.
Mostly likely WISN during dawn WDFN sometimes mixes in with WISN. Also don't forget KLTK in Minneapolis.
I would think so since they are running at the same power. Both are suppose to be shooting their signal north at 10,000 watts at night and I'm assuming that's why WDFN's transmitter is that far south of Detroit, it's near the free bridge to Grosse Ile.

KTLK looks like yet another station that's suppose to be sending it's signal north but at 25,000 watts. I'm thinking KTLK would be too far from Connecticut to reach that. A good test of Minneapolis stations would be to see how good WCCO comes in since that's a 50,000 watt clear channel signal and that one comes in pretty good over here at night.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 09:27:09 PM
You guys should honestly hear how good WLW and WBZ come in where I'm at. I'm almost certain I'm dead on with their directional pattern.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: MikeTheActuary on October 27, 2018, 07:06:06 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 09:26:22 PM
KTLK looks like yet another station that's suppose to be sending it's signal north but at 25,000 watts. I'm thinking KTLK would be too far from Connecticut to reach that. A good test of Minneapolis stations would be to see how good WCCO comes in since that's a 50,000 watt clear channel signal and that one comes in pretty good over here at night.

WCCO was clear to me, aside from getting WCRN at about the same strength.  (WCCO's nighttime pattern isn't on file with the FCC.  WCRN is 50kw but in a cardioid pattern to the northeast; I should be pretty close to WCRN's null...but like I said, I have better antennas and receivers than most casual listeners would.)
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 27, 2018, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on October 27, 2018, 07:06:06 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 26, 2018, 09:26:22 PM
KTLK looks like yet another station that's suppose to be sending it's signal north but at 25,000 watts. I'm thinking KTLK would be too far from Connecticut to reach that. A good test of Minneapolis stations would be to see how good WCCO comes in since that's a 50,000 watt clear channel signal and that one comes in pretty good over here at night.

WCCO was clear to me, aside from getting WCRN at about the same strength.  (WCCO's nighttime pattern isn't on file with the FCC.  WCRN is 50kw but in a cardioid pattern to the northeast; I should be pretty close to WCRN's null...but like I said, I have better antennas and receivers than most casual listeners would.)
I only get the real big stations from New England over here. I don't think I've ever had any interference from hearing WCCO which is a good distance away so I'm probably getting it on that 700-1,000 mileish skip pattern. I never have much of a problem picking WJR up during the day and can pickup most of the big Chicago stations during the day as well. WLS is the worst station in Chicago for me it comes in the weakest out of their 50,000 watt stations WGN, WSCR and WBBM all come in pretty solid 24 hours a day but WLS has a problem coming in during the day but comes in pretty solid at night.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: 02 Park Ave on October 27, 2018, 09:30:54 PM
WHO in DesMoines Iowa is most interesting.  I can get it clearly here in South Jersey most nights and I've picked it up in Flagstaff Arizona.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on October 30, 2018, 08:51:16 PM
I think I figured out something with WLW. I was listening last night trying to figure out why it's one of the loudest 50,000 watt stations I can receive and I think the reason for this is their transmitter site is north of Cincinnati in the city of Mason, Ohio. I looked at the pattern and figured out that I am due north and very very slightly east of their transmitter site 283 miles away. It seems like the stations that are more than 250 miles away come in the best. KMOX comes in very well and I'm 450 miles from their transmitter.

Does anyone on the east coast ever get WBAP 820AM out of Fort Worth? I've been wanting to try that one for awhile.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
What a difference a car radio makes between two of them. I couldn't get WJR for crap in a 2008 Ford Fusion now I tried it in a 2017 Nissan Versa and it was coming in like I was sitting next to the transmitter site on Sibley and Grange Roads in Riverview. In the Fusion I had static coming in with the signal all the time and now in the Nissan WJR blows over any static that's there.

I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

Like I described in my previous posts I believe I'm in the sweet spot for WLW's signal. I never have any problem pulling that station in at any time of the day.

I got bits and pieces of WBAP in Fort Worth which is a good sign.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on November 02, 2018, 03:35:21 AM
I had WCCO on close to midnight tonight and the host made a point to mention "xx:xx PM, Central Time" as the current time, perhaps as a nod to the station's power. Do other blowtorch hosts do this overnight?
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on November 02, 2018, 07:53:46 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on November 02, 2018, 03:35:21 AM
I had WCCO on close to midnight tonight and the host made a point to mention "xx:xx PM, Central Time" as the current time, perhaps as a nod to the station's power. Do other blowtorch hosts do this overnight?
Perhaps if it's a local host. For WJR, during the week Michael Savage is on around the midnight time frame so that's not a local show. WJR's most legendary overnight show was Night Flight 760 with Jay Roberts.

I vouch for WJR all the time because when I was growing up that station was the strongest and most well known radio station in Detroit. It still is the strongest station but as far as most well known it's probably that to outsiders for Detroit radio but inside the Metro area I don't think WJR is the most well known anymore. WWJ is the go to station in Detroit on the AM side.

Not sure how many people would be able to pickup WWJ. I don't know why they don't put in to become a full 50,000 watt station since the station they use to protect no longer operates. WWJ is Michigan's only commercial all-news station with traffic and weather together every 10 minutes around the clock. It has it's transmitter even further south than WJR does and shoots it's signal in a northern path.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on November 02, 2018, 08:10:57 AM
Also WJR mentions, "the middle of America" during their TOH in the overnight hours. Basically goes like this, "From the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building to the middle of America this is the Great Voice of the Great Lakes, 760, WJR - Detroit."

Perhaps that's a nod to the stations power. I wish they'd mention 50,000 watts somewhere in their TOH though.

For TOH I always loved listening to WBZ's when they did this one. "While your driving your car, we're driving 50,000 watts of power, news all day, every day on newsradio 1030 WBZ - Boston."

Another jingle from WBZ that I liked was, "We Got The Spirit of New England on WBZ - Boston."

WBZ is another station I'm right in line with. Between WBZ and WLW both come in like I'm sitting in Boston or Cincinnati.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:19:33 AM
Last night I was coming home from Ohio and had WJR on the entire way. Never once had a problem and earlier in the day I was in the Toledo area pulling in WLW just like I was sitting next to the transmitter in Mason.

WJR didn't do anything special for the TOH though. Just went, "This is the Great Voice of the Great Lakes news talk 760 WJR Detroit."
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been able to pull in KOA in this part of the country. I pulled in WBAP the other night and thought that was a pretty good dx.

Out of Chicago's blowtorches WGN and WBBM are the strongest in my area.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: dvferyance on November 15, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been able to pull in KOA in this part of the country. I pulled in WBAP the other night and thought that was a pretty good dx.

Out of Chicago's blowtorches WGN and WBBM are the strongest in my area.
I have picked up KOA a few times around the Chicago/Milwaukee area. My guess is though that is about as far east as it goes.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on November 15, 2018, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on November 15, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been able to pull in KOA in this part of the country. I pulled in WBAP the other night and thought that was a pretty good dx.

Out of Chicago's blowtorches WGN and WBBM are the strongest in my area.
I have picked up KOA a few times around the Chicago/Milwaukee area. My guess is though that is about as far east as it goes.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm a little too far east for KOA that would be a great pickup if I ever did get it to come in. I'm about 1,100 miles from the transmitter site so it's a little far. The night I was pulling in WBAP the conditions for skip were very good and just about every 50,000 watt station in between was coming in pretty strong that night. WBAP's transmitter is about 1,000 miles away.

I'll try for KOA again in the future when the skip is rolling good. I don't think I have any interference on 850 so if I do hear anything I'd assume it's KOA. There is a station on 850 in the Muskegon area but I'm far enough away from Muskegon that it wouldn't interfere.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: ftballfan on November 16, 2018, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 15, 2018, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on November 15, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been able to pull in KOA in this part of the country. I pulled in WBAP the other night and thought that was a pretty good dx.

Out of Chicago's blowtorches WGN and WBBM are the strongest in my area.
I have picked up KOA a few times around the Chicago/Milwaukee area. My guess is though that is about as far east as it goes.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm a little too far east for KOA that would be a great pickup if I ever did get it to come in. I'm about 1,100 miles from the transmitter site so it's a little far. The night I was pulling in WBAP the conditions for skip were very good and just about every 50,000 watt station in between was coming in pretty strong that night. WBAP's transmitter is about 1,000 miles away.

I'll try for KOA again in the future when the skip is rolling good. I don't think I have any interference on 850 so if I do hear anything I'd assume it's KOA. There is a station on 850 in the Muskegon area but I'm far enough away from Muskegon that it wouldn't interfere.
I don't do much on AM, but I've pulled in KOA in Manistee, MI in the past
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on January 09, 2020, 07:29:39 PM
Add 870 to my list. WWL in New Orleans.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on January 09, 2020, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 15, 2018, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on November 15, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been able to pull in KOA in this part of the country. I pulled in WBAP the other night and thought that was a pretty good dx.

Out of Chicago's blowtorches WGN and WBBM are the strongest in my area.
I have picked up KOA a few times around the Chicago/Milwaukee area. My guess is though that is about as far east as it goes.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm a little too far east for KOA that would be a great pickup if I ever did get it to come in. I'm about 1,100 miles from the transmitter site so it's a little far. The night I was pulling in WBAP the conditions for skip were very good and just about every 50,000 watt station in between was coming in pretty strong that night. WBAP's transmitter is about 1,000 miles away.

I'll try for KOA again in the future when the skip is rolling good. I don't think I have any interference on 850 so if I do hear anything I'd assume it's KOA. There is a station on 850 in the Muskegon area but I'm far enough away from Muskegon that it wouldn't interfere.
Well I just wanted to say that I just pulled KOA in here in Saginaw, Michigan.
Title: Re: What does your AM radio look like at night
Post by: Flint1979 on January 15, 2020, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on November 16, 2018, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 15, 2018, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on November 15, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 03, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 02, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on November 01, 2018, 11:17:08 PM
I checked a few other stations WGN, WBBM, WCCO, WLW and WSB were all coming in very strong.

I once picked up WBBM while driving in Denver.  Pretty wild to hear a traffic report from a thousand miles away.
That's crazy. I don't think I've ever been able to pull in KOA in this part of the country. I pulled in WBAP the other night and thought that was a pretty good dx.

Out of Chicago's blowtorches WGN and WBBM are the strongest in my area.
I have picked up KOA a few times around the Chicago/Milwaukee area. My guess is though that is about as far east as it goes.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm a little too far east for KOA that would be a great pickup if I ever did get it to come in. I'm about 1,100 miles from the transmitter site so it's a little far. The night I was pulling in WBAP the conditions for skip were very good and just about every 50,000 watt station in between was coming in pretty strong that night. WBAP's transmitter is about 1,000 miles away.

I'll try for KOA again in the future when the skip is rolling good. I don't think I have any interference on 850 so if I do hear anything I'd assume it's KOA. There is a station on 850 in the Muskegon area but I'm far enough away from Muskegon that it wouldn't interfere.
I don't do much on AM, but I've pulled in KOA in Manistee, MI in the past
I pulled it in the other night in Saginaw.