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Started by The Nature Boy, November 28, 2015, 10:07:02 AM

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Desert Man

Los Angeles County is known as "100 cities in search of one" - Los Angeles. Actually 88 (or 89?) are incorporated municipalities. 5 of them are really small and relatively not fully residential. The cities of Industry (200 residents), as well Vernon (111 residents) near downtown L.A. are examples; and the private gated residential one square mile cities of Bradbury (1,000), Hidden Hills (1,850), and Rolling Hills (1,860). And the suburban cities of Bell, Bell Gardens, Cudahy, Huntington park and Maywood are tiny (around a square mile) but with very high population density.
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bing101

The Thomas fire in Ventura County its amazing to think that the fire size is approximately the same size as Los Angeles City Proper.

bing101

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

Also South San Francisco, CA is in San Mateo County, Plus San Francisco International Airport is in the South San Francisco/ San Bruno Area.


Rothman

Not the oddest of the odd, but, for some reason, I was taken off guard by the fact that Helsinki is further north than Juneau.
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Max Rockatansky

California 41 between Stratford and Kettleman City would have been under the waters of Tulare Lake a century ago.  Most people today think the area is a desert or was always lush farm land.

jwolfer

Even though I know geography ( as most if not all of us on here) I am still surprised how far north Europe is compared to the US.. New York is the same latitude as Spain and Italy.. the UK is there same latitude as Labrador

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ghYHZ

Quote from: jwolfer on December 27, 2017, 09:47:46 AM
Even though I know geography ( as most if not all of us on here) I am still surprised how far north Europe is...... the UK is there same latitude as Labrador
Z981

You'll find Palm Trees growing along the south coast of England.....but certainly not in Labrador!

kphoger

Quote from: bing101 on December 26, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

I think East Chicago doesn't border Chicago, either.
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US 89

South Weber, UT is not in Weber County as the name suggests, but rather in Davis County. It used to be in Weber County, but the county line was moved north to the Weber River early on.

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but Bernalillo NM is not in Bernalillo County, but is actually the county seat of Sandoval Co.

freebrickproductions

Quote from: roadguy2 on December 27, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
South Weber, UT is not in Weber County as the name suggests, but rather in Davis County. It used to be in Weber County, but the county line was moved north to the Weber River early on.

Not sure if this has been posted or not, but Bernalillo NM is not in Bernalillo County, but is actually the county seat of Sandoval Co.
On a similar note, Hamilton, OH isn't in Hamilton County, OH.

Also, Cherokee, AL is on the opposite side of the state from Cherokee County, AL.
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jwolfer

Seminole FL is not in Seminole County.  Jackson County FL is almost 200 miles from Jacksonville.

This is not that uncommon

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Brandon

Quote from: bing101 on December 26, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

I fail to see the strangeness.  West Chicago and North Chicago don't touch Chicago either.
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ET21

Quote from: Brandon on December 27, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 26, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

I fail to see the strangeness.  West Chicago and North Chicago don't touch Chicago either.

Or East Chicago, IN. Just separated by a skinny section of Hammond IN
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IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: jwolfer on December 27, 2017, 01:16:35 PM
Seminole FL is not in Seminole County.  Jackson County FL is almost 200 miles from Jacksonville.

This is not that uncommon

Z981

Hell, there is a town in California called San Andreas which is up in the Sierras well to the east of the San Andreas Fault. 

jeffandnicole

Quote from: jwolfer on December 27, 2017, 01:16:35 PM
Seminole FL is not in Seminole County.  Jackson County FL is almost 200 miles from Jacksonville.

This is not that uncommon

Z981



I probably mentioned elsewhere that Gloucester City, NJ and Gloucester Twp, NJ are both in Camden County.  Both touch the border of Gloucester County.  But Gloucester City and Gloucester Twp don't touch each other. 

And while Gloucester City maintains a strong identity of itself, Gloucester Twp is rarely called by its township name.  It's usually known by its unincorporated communities.  And then in one oddity, the area of the town where the AC Expressway meets Cross Keys Road (Exit 41) is often referred to as Washington Twp...which officially has nothing to do with that area because it's a neighboring town in Gloucester County.

jwolfer

Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 27, 2017, 03:00:24 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on December 27, 2017, 01:16:35 PM
Seminole FL is not in Seminole County.  Jackson County FL is almost 200 miles from Jacksonville.

This is not that uncommon

Z981



I probably mentioned elsewhere that Gloucester City, NJ and Gloucester Twp, NJ are both in Camden County.  Both touch the border of Gloucester County.  But Gloucester City and Gloucester Twp don't touch each other. 

And while Gloucester City maintains a strong identity of itself, Gloucester Twp is rarely called by its township name.  It's usually known by its unincorporated communities.  And then in one oddity, the area of the town where the AC Expressway meets Cross Keys Road (Exit 41) is often referred to as Washington Twp...which officially has nothing to do with that area because it's a neighboring town in Gloucester County.
Originally Gloucester County included Camden and Atlantic Counties.. 

Was Gloucester City the original county seat?

Z981


CNGL-Leudimin

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 27, 2017, 02:33:53 PM
Hell, there is a town in California called San Andreas which is up in the Sierras well to the east of the San Andreas Fault. 

That really puzzled me when I found it.

IIRC South Waverly PA is Northwest of Waverly PA... but just South of Waverly NY.

This also happens in my country. For example, Pozuelo de Alarcon, a suburb of Madrid, is nowhere near Alarcon, in Cuenca province about halfway between Madrid and Valencia. In fact I feel it should have been named Pozuelo de Alcorcon, as Alcorcon is another suburb of Madrid.
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Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
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bing101

Nevada County is in California and not in the State of Nevada.

hotdogPi

Quote from: bing101 on December 27, 2017, 03:55:10 PM
Nevada County is in California and not in the State of Nevada.

This is way too common. In addition to the earlier examples, there are a whole bunch of counties called Washington County.
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US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

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bing101

Quote from: Brandon on December 27, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 26, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

I fail to see the strangeness.  West Chicago and North Chicago don't touch Chicago either.

True also West Sacramento and Sacramento are in different counties. Like West Sacramento is in Yolo County and Sacramento is in Sacramento County.

hotdogPi

Quote from: bing101 on December 27, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 27, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 26, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

I fail to see the strangeness.  West Chicago and North Chicago don't touch Chicago either.

True also West Sacramento and Sacramento are in different counties. Like West Sacramento is in Yolo County and Sacramento is in Sacramento County.

Why does that matter? West New York, East St. Louis, and West Memphis are in different states from their namesake cities.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25

Brandon

Quote from: bing101 on December 27, 2017, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 27, 2017, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: bing101 on December 26, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_San_Francisco,_California

South San Francisco, CA northern border does not touch the San Francisco city border but instead touches Daly City, CA border.

I fail to see the strangeness.  West Chicago and North Chicago don't touch Chicago either.

True also West Sacramento and Sacramento are in different counties. Like West Sacramento is in Yolo County and Sacramento is in Sacramento County.

Again, the strangeness escapes me.  Chicago is in Cook County, IL; West Chicago in DuPage County; North Chicago in Lake County, IL; and for added trivia, East Chicago is in Lake County, IN.
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: bing101 on December 27, 2017, 03:55:10 PM
Nevada County is in California and not in the State of Nevada.

But it is in the Sierra Nevada Range which makes it more sensible.  The county was also formed back in 1851 before Nevada was a state.

michravera

Quote from: jwolfer on December 27, 2017, 09:47:46 AM
Even though I know geography ( as most if not all of us on here) I am still surprised how far north Europe is compared to the US.. New York is the same latitude as Spain and Italy.. the UK is there same latitude as Labrador

Z981

Yeah. San Francisco and Washington are roughly the same latitude as Lisbon. To get as far south as LA or San Diego, you need to get into Africa. To get as far south as Miami or San Juan, you have to get seriously into Africa (like Aswan and Timbuktu, respectively)



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