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CA 11 Tollway begins in San Diego

Started by ARMOURERERIC, December 10, 2013, 04:14:29 PM

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NE2

So it starts in San Diego, but where does it end?
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theroadwayone

Quote from: NE2 on November 21, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
So it starts in San Diego, but where does it end?
It still ends in SD...for now. It's supposed to end at the border.

chays

Sorry to resurrect such an old thread, but I don't see anything more recent.
This page (https://www.keepsandiegomoving.com/SR-11-Corridor/SR11-budget.aspx) states that the SR 11 segment to the border is scheduled to be completed in late 2021. Does anyone have any other information on this new toll road?

pderocco

I've been watching this project on the ground, because I live in the general area. From what I've been able to glean from the web, the only thing that will be tolled is the actual border crossing. You can already drive to Enrico Fermi Dr, and there will be one more interchange at Siempre Viva Rd, but those are primarily useful for accessing the local industrial park, so it wouldn't make sense to toll that. People would just use the surface streets over to CA-905 instead.

theroadwayone

The latest Street View footage (from February) shows most of the SB 125 connectors mostly done as well; same with the Enrico Fermi interchange, which is going to be the county's first ever DDI.

Stephane Dumas

I checked OSM and it show the proposed alignment when the Mexican part of CA-11 will connect to MX-2. 
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.54780,-116.89361&z=16&t=M 
Is it really the alignement they chosen in Mexico? I checked Streetview and the ROW was occupied by a high tension power line.
https://goo.gl/maps/VcuWsqnZjVdwmwL56

NE2

It begins in San Diego, but where does it end?
pre-1945 Florida route log

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ilpt4u

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on October 06, 2021, 07:46:52 PM
I checked OSM and it show the proposed alignment when the Mexican part of CA-11 will connect to MX-2. 
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.54780,-116.89361&z=16&t=M 
Is it really the alignement they chosen in Mexico? I checked Streetview and the ROW was occupied by a high tension power line.
https://goo.gl/maps/VcuWsqnZjVdwmwL56
I've always wondered why we don't see more ROW "sharing"  between Freeways/Interstates/etc and PowerCo high tension lines

Just put the Support Poles in the median and build the Freeway on both sides!

jdbx

Quote from: ilpt4u on October 07, 2021, 07:32:53 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on October 06, 2021, 07:46:52 PM
I checked OSM and it show the proposed alignment when the Mexican part of CA-11 will connect to MX-2. 
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.54780,-116.89361&z=16&t=M 
Is it really the alignement they chosen in Mexico? I checked Streetview and the ROW was occupied by a high tension power line.
https://goo.gl/maps/VcuWsqnZjVdwmwL56
I've always wondered why we don't see more ROW "sharing"  between Freeways/Interstates/etc and PowerCo high tension lines

Just put the Support Poles in the median and build the Freeway on both sides!

I would imagine the reason why is that maintenance of the power lines becomes a problem of coordinating with highway authorities.


ARMOURERERIC

I could see that causing Caltranzzz to put Prop 65 warning signs on the freeway.

andy3175

The latest information on the SR 11 extension and the completion of the SR 11-125-905 interchange is found here:

https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-11/current-projects/sr11

https://www.keepsandiegomoving.com/Libraries/SR_11/SAN_SR11_Port_of_Entry_Brochure_WEB_031721.sflb.ashx

The second link has a chronology of the SR 11 project, including these key dates (chronology updated 3/17/2021):

- 1998 memorandum of understanding approved that created the Otay Mesa-Mesa de Otay Binational Corridor (which includes SR 11)
- 2008 Toll Authority Legislation (SB 1486)
- 2012 Environmental Impact Report completed
- 2013 SR 11 construction began
- 2015 SR 11-125-905 interchange improvements project began (to complete missing connectors)
- 2016 SR 11 first segment (from SR 125-905 to Enrico Fermi Dr) opened to traffic
- 2019 SR 11 second segment (Enrico Fermi Dr to port of entry) and SR 11-125-905 southbound connectors began construction
- 2022 Anticipated start date of construction for the Otay Mesa East Port of Entry
- 2024 Anticipated opening of Otay Mesa East Port of Entry (and SR 11)
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theroadwayone

When exactly are the SB 125 connectors supposed to open?

Max Rockatansky

Finally getting around to adding more highways that were part of the Roadwaywiz video series to Gribblenation blogs.  There isn't a ton to say or see with CA 11 but here's how it was as of last year.  Presumably this will change soon with the second segment nearing completion:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2021/12/california-state-route-11-otay-mesa.html?m=1

bing101

This time CA-11 is in the San Diego area.  I thought of the current CA-110/I-110 as the history but this time its in Otay Mesa when I read it.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: bing101 on December 02, 2021, 11:16:18 AM
This time CA-11 is in the San Diego area.  I thought of the current CA-110/I-110 as the history but this time its in Otay Mesa when I read it.

I'll get around to the Harbor Freeway in the next couple months.  I did the Arroyo Seco Parkway a couple years ago and that required a ton of research time put in. 

pderocco

I'm not aware of any construction work started south of the border. If there's no border crossing, I'm wondering if they'll bother tying the last exit to the rest of Siempre Viva in the near future. Watching what's happening on the ground, they don't seem very eager to do that. Perhaps it will just be a new mile of freeway with an exit to serve a handful of new industrial buildings. Who knows, perhaps they won't even open it at all past Enrico Fermi until the border crossing is at least in progress.

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pderocco

Well, that "news" story was, as usual, badly written by someone who didn't understand the details. The only thing that opened were the ramps from SB 125 to EB 905 (to the existing border crossing) and to EB 11. I was down there last weekend, and the ramp from SB 125 to WB 905 has months of work remaining, and so does 11 E of Enrico Fermi.

That said, that's still an important milestone.

Henry

Quote from: jdbx on October 08, 2021, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on October 07, 2021, 07:32:53 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on October 06, 2021, 07:46:52 PM
I checked OSM and it show the proposed alignment when the Mexican part of CA-11 will connect to MX-2. 
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=32.54780,-116.89361&z=16&t=M 
Is it really the alignement they chosen in Mexico? I checked Streetview and the ROW was occupied by a high tension power line.
https://goo.gl/maps/VcuWsqnZjVdwmwL56
I've always wondered why we don't see more ROW "sharing"  between Freeways/Interstates/etc and PowerCo high tension lines

Just put the Support Poles in the median and build the Freeway on both sides!

I would imagine the reason why is that maintenance of the power lines becomes a problem of coordinating with highway authorities.


Also, it would raise fears of some unlucky motorist crashing into a tower and bringing it down, causing a citywide power outage. Which is why I strongly recommend the lines put to one side of the highway so that the maintenance won't interfere with the traffic flow. But then again, having the lines in the median just may work, given that many urban areas have median lights.
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theroadwayone

Does it usually take a day or so for a new segment of road to appear on Google Maps?

vdeane

Quote from: theroadwayone on December 22, 2021, 01:35:41 AM
Does it usually take a day or so for a new segment of road to appear on Google Maps?
It seems like it takes a little while these days, yes.  And then it takes a little longer before Google will route directions on the new road, have traffic information, etc.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

theroadwayone

Quote from: vdeane on December 22, 2021, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: theroadwayone on December 22, 2021, 01:35:41 AM
Does it usually take a day or so for a new segment of road to appear on Google Maps?
It seems like it takes a little while these days, yes.  And then it takes a little longer before Google will route directions on the new road, have traffic information, etc.
I'm guessing that MTS has rerouted Rapid Route 225 onto it by now.

rschen7754

Quote from: pderocco on December 19, 2021, 08:17:50 PM
Well, that "news" story was, as usual, badly written by someone who didn't understand the details. The only thing that opened were the ramps from SB 125 to EB 905 (to the existing border crossing) and to EB 11. I was down there last weekend, and the ramp from SB 125 to WB 905 has months of work remaining, and so does 11 E of Enrico Fermi.

That said, that's still an important milestone.

Indeed, my go-to is usually the San Diego Union-Tribune, but thanks to paywalls it's hard to get anything current out of them.



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