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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1225 on: February 01, 2024, 03:59:48 PM »

Here's a full list of the 28 projects that applied for TRAC funding:
https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/programs/trac/past-apps/2023-apps

You can click on any of them to see the pdf of the application, which include basic maps if you scroll down far enough

18 of the projects were selected for the draft list, and the final list will be voted on at the Feb 28 TRAC meeting

And for shots and giggles, ODOT throws a little bit of money towards the Innerbelt rebuild in Cleveland -- a project I likely won't see finished in my lifetime. 

And yet, the Central Interchange in Akron is on its 2nd or 3rd rebuild in the last 40 years...
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1226 on: February 05, 2024, 08:35:29 PM »

The Norwood Lateral in Cincinnati (OH 562) will be closed in stages this year, the eastbound side for 80 days begining March 11 and the westbound side for 80 days begining in early June:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/norwood-lateral-oh-562-closed-traffic-project/46651270
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« Reply #1227 on: February 05, 2024, 10:28:26 PM »

The Norwood Lateral in Cincinnati (OH 562) will be closed in stages this year, the eastbound side for 80 days begining March 11 and the westbound side for 80 days begining in early June:

https://www.wlwt.com/article/norwood-lateral-oh-562-closed-traffic-project/46651270

It seems like you could get the work done more quickly if they did this more often.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1228 on: February 06, 2024, 12:17:17 PM »

The exits on OH 562 seem to be numbered sequentially (probably a remnant of the state-wide sequentially numbered exits prior to the conversion to milage-based exit in the mid-1970s). Otherwise, the exits would likely be numbered 1A, 1B, and 2.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1229 on: February 14, 2024, 04:07:16 PM »

The exits on OH 562 seem to be numbered sequentially (probably a remnant of the state-wide sequentially numbered exits prior to the conversion to milage-based exit in the mid-1970s). Otherwise, the exits would likely be numbered 1A, 1B, and 2.

Actually, the exit numbers are relatively recent (long after Ohio went to mileage-based exit numbers).  I want to say the exit numbers were added maybe 20 or 25 years ago; prior to that there were no exit numbers on 562.

I think the exit numbers were chosen to make more sense to motorists, since the whole road is only 2.5 miles long. 
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1230 on: February 14, 2024, 08:08:57 PM »

Here is the full draft TRAC list that is open for public comment. The prior list only had new additions.

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/wcm/connect/gov/c9c8154b-ea80-43ed-bcb5-967698063dd6/DRAFT+2024-2027+Major+New+ConstructIon+Program+List+%281.31.2024%29.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CONVERT_TO=url&CACHEID=ROOTWORKSPACE.Z18_M1HGGIK0N0JO00QO9DDDDM3000-c9c8154b-ea80-43ed-bcb5-967698063dd6-oR.Ih0P

This also (kind of) answers our questions about funding the widening of 33 from Athens to Darwin. ODOT has a separate pot of money for this project.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1231 on: February 14, 2024, 08:33:42 PM »

The exits on OH 562 seem to be numbered sequentially (probably a remnant of the state-wide sequentially numbered exits prior to the conversion to milage-based exit in the mid-1970s). Otherwise, the exits would likely be numbered 1A, 1B, and 2.

Actually, the exit numbers are relatively recent (long after Ohio went to mileage-based exit numbers).  I want to say the exit numbers were added maybe 20 or 25 years ago; prior to that there were no exit numbers on 562.

I think the exit numbers were chosen to make more sense to motorists, since the whole road is only 2.5 miles long.


If there were parts of 562 that weren't on the lateral you might have seen mileage-based numbering.
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« Reply #1232 on: February 15, 2024, 07:36:04 PM »

The exits on OH 562 seem to be numbered sequentially (probably a remnant of the state-wide sequentially numbered exits prior to the conversion to milage-based exit in the mid-1970s). Otherwise, the exits would likely be numbered 1A, 1B, and 2.

Actually, the exit numbers are relatively recent (long after Ohio went to mileage-based exit numbers).  I want to say the exit numbers were added maybe 20 or 25 years ago; prior to that there were no exit numbers on 562.

I think the exit numbers were chosen to make more sense to motorists, since the whole road is only 2.5 miles long.


If there were parts of 562 that weren't on the lateral you might have seen mileage-based numbering.

Even if they were using mileage-based numbering, fudging things by a mile to avoid suffixes seems like a reasonable practice.
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« Reply #1233 on: February 15, 2024, 07:38:15 PM »

Here is the full draft TRAC list that is open for public comment. The prior list only had new additions.

https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/wps/wcm/connect/gov/c9c8154b-ea80-43ed-bcb5-967698063dd6/DRAFT+2024-2027+Major+New+ConstructIon+Program+List+%281.31.2024%29.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CONVERT_TO=url&CACHEID=ROOTWORKSPACE.Z18_M1HGGIK0N0JO00QO9DDDDM3000-c9c8154b-ea80-43ed-bcb5-967698063dd6-oR.Ih0P

This also (kind of) answers our questions about funding the widening of 33 from Athens to Darwin. ODOT has a separate pot of money for this project.

I'm wondering if this was an earmark of some sort, because my understanding was that ODOT was supposed to allocate and approve all of ODOT's large projects. I don't recall seeing "funded by another program" done before in the 25 years TRAC has been around.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1234 on: February 16, 2024, 06:04:44 AM »

I'm wondering if this was an earmark of some sort, because my understanding was that ODOT was supposed to allocate and approve all of ODOT's large projects. I don't recall seeing "funded by another program" done before in the 25 years TRAC has been around.

It's the first time I seen an entry like that on the TRAC list. Both of the recent Columbus Mega Fixes (71/270 near Grove City and 270/62/670 near Gahanna) were over $100 million in cost but did not appear on any TRAC list. It may be worthing looking back to prior lists (if available) to see how the Nelsonville Bypass was listed because I think it was in a separate tier, although I'm not sure if that was for being in Appalachia or the infrastructure program during Obama's tenure as president.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1235 on: February 20, 2024, 02:41:13 PM »

Public input sought for Chesapeake Bypass Phase 2

The Ohio Department of Transportation has submitted an application for a Water Quality certification for Phase 2 of the Chesapeake Bypass project and the public is encouraged to provide feedback.

A public meeting will be held at 6 p.m. Tuesday at the Chesapeake branch of the Briggs Lawrence County Public Library, located at 11054 County Road 1, Chesapeake.

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See also:

The phasing map is a little hard to understand at first. Phases 3 and 4 only indicate the dualization of the two-lane portions of the roadway. Phase 2A/2B is what is being considered now.

Something I didn't notice until today is the original right-of-way deviating from the new proposal. If the bypass were built as intended, it would go through a subdivision - which may not have existed when the original bypass stub was completed. I still don't agree with the roundabout at OH 243, but this would be converted to a standard intersection on ultimate build-out. It doesn't appear there will be room for an interchange there.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1236 on: February 20, 2024, 09:10:19 PM »

Just a bit of a shave for the subdivision. But yes, weird to see a roundabout on this. Like people get sometimes roads go down to two-lane from four then back to four but they are going to hate braking for a roundabout when most of them know it's going to go back to four soon.
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« Reply #1237 on: February 21, 2024, 04:13:45 PM »

Just a bit of a shave for the subdivision. But yes, weird to see a roundabout on this. Like people get sometimes roads go down to two-lane from four then back to four but they are going to hate braking for a roundabout when most of them know it's going to go back to four soon.

Building climbing lanes in multiple places, including where both directions will have overlapping climbing lanes making a 4-lane wide roadway, versus just building the second carriageway is an odd choice.
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Re: Ohio
« Reply #1238 on: February 21, 2024, 05:54:43 PM »

Less grading or even blasting I guess considering the terrain.
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