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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4900 on: January 24, 2023, 11:29:27 AM »

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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4901 on: January 25, 2023, 12:03:26 AM »

Yellow traffic lights in Russia. Very very rare to see.
https://www.google.com/maps/@64.433535,76.4840061,3a,35.6y,272.73h,89.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRHCEHwJlJCnyf4yPlg1N6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They look pretty new, any idea what the story is here? All-yellow signals are pretty rare in Europe and Asia, period.

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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4902 on: January 25, 2023, 12:42:27 AM »

Yellow traffic lights in Russia. Very very rare to see.
https://www.google.com/maps/@64.433535,76.4840061,3a,35.6y,272.73h,89.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRHCEHwJlJCnyf4yPlg1N6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They look pretty new, any idea what the story is here? All-yellow signals are pretty rare in Europe and Asia, period.
I couldn't find much information about them on the web, but it seems that these yellow traffic lights can only be found in the town of Gubkinskiy.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4903 on: January 25, 2023, 01:24:28 AM »

^^ For the first link, panning over shows a stop sign on the left side.   For the second link I saw one like that in Georgia all in the same cable for a triple left turn.

Not complaining about the set up. Just pointing out the irony here.  Plus no triple left turn set up here either.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4904 on: January 25, 2023, 01:33:44 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/n17Be2pVJWuL83eW8
This tower set up defies the MUTCD.  The yellow left arrow is supposed to be second from the bottom. The second from the top is the standard yellow ball, with number three down the green ball, and the bottom two are yellow arrow over green arrow.

As you can see the left yellow arrow is second down.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4905 on: January 25, 2023, 02:20:22 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/n17Be2pVJWuL83eW8
This tower set up defies the MUTCD.  The yellow left arrow is supposed to be second from the bottom. The second from the top is the standard yellow ball, with number three down the green ball, and the bottom two are yellow arrow over green arrow.

As you can see the left yellow arrow is second down.

That's a red arrow, not yellow. Newark has been known to throw red arrows in questionable positions.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4906 on: January 25, 2023, 02:27:44 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/n17Be2pVJWuL83eW8
This tower set up defies the MUTCD.  The yellow left arrow is supposed to be second from the bottom. The second from the top is the standard yellow ball, with number three down the green ball, and the bottom two are yellow arrow over green arrow.

As you can see the left yellow arrow is second down.

That's a red arrow, not yellow. Newark has been known to throw red arrows in questionable positions.

The rest of the setup is still bewildering. Green orb second to the bottom?

https://goo.gl/maps/32ftZbF77hXzMWTT6

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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4907 on: January 25, 2023, 03:58:04 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/n17Be2pVJWuL83eW8
This tower set up defies the MUTCD.  The yellow left arrow is supposed to be second from the bottom. The second from the top is the standard yellow ball, with number three down the green ball, and the bottom two are yellow arrow over green arrow.

As you can see the left yellow arrow is second down.

That's a red arrow, not yellow. Newark has been known to throw red arrows in questionable positions.

Even worse yet.  There is supposed to be no red arrow second from the top. A left turn signal is not supposed to be five section either, but typical three section.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4908 on: January 25, 2023, 11:21:37 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/d3aKLAaoD878PE6y5
I found this interesting. The signal heads seem to appear lifeless as if the signal was out, but the crosswalk signals are totally operational.

Must of captured it during the split second the signal changed phases, or another technical issue.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4909 on: January 25, 2023, 11:29:19 AM »

I spent two years looking at intersections in eastern Massachusetts. There is no split second. When a light appears to be off in GSV, it's almost always a flashing yellow/red (whether it's that way naturally or because of a power outage).

I can't figure out this one, though.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4910 on: January 25, 2023, 07:12:58 PM »

I spent two years looking at intersections in eastern Massachusetts. There is no split second. When a light appears to be off in GSV, it's almost always a flashing yellow/red (whether it's that way naturally or because of a power outage).

I can't figure out this one, though.

Probably because itís dangerous for signals to be completely dark. Iíve seen it happen, but itís only for emergencies, and itís never meant to function that way.

Crossing a 4 lane DCR road at a Ped signal where the signal is dark is, extremely scary.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4911 on: January 25, 2023, 08:02:10 PM »

I spent two years looking at intersections in eastern Massachusetts. There is no split second. When a light appears to be off in GSV, it's almost always a flashing yellow/red (whether it's that way naturally or because of a power outage).

I can't figure out this one, though.

Probably because itís dangerous for signals to be completely dark. Iíve seen it happen, but itís only for emergencies, and itís never meant to function that way.

Crossing a 4 lane DCR road at a Ped signal where the signal is dark is, extremely scary.

 A lot of pedestrians are so reckless when they cross that they wouldn't know the difference...........
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4912 on: January 25, 2023, 10:46:45 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/n17Be2pVJWuL83eW8
This tower set up defies the MUTCD.  The yellow left arrow is supposed to be second from the bottom. The second from the top is the standard yellow ball, with number three down the green ball, and the bottom two are yellow arrow over green arrow.

As you can see the left yellow arrow is second down.

That's a red arrow, not yellow. Newark has been known to throw red arrows in questionable positions.

The rest of the setup is still bewildering. Green orb second to the bottom?

https://goo.gl/maps/32ftZbF77hXzMWTT6

Lol yeah it's crazy alright. You gotta remember, this is the same place that does dumb shit like this:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/8U47z8e74zop7Jrv7
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4913 on: February 01, 2023, 04:39:54 PM »

Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4914 on: February 01, 2023, 06:39:31 PM »

Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9

I completely understand what they were going for here, but indeed, not compliant. "Easy" fix though, just swap the signals.

Alternatively, they could keep the signal as-is, change the right signal to all arrows, and add a third all-orb RYG signal on the far left pole.

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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4915 on: February 01, 2023, 08:09:13 PM »

Here's a neat signal setup that I recorded a few years ago in Flushing, Michigan.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4916 on: February 02, 2023, 12:03:48 PM »

Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9

I completely understand what they were going for here, but indeed, not compliant. "Easy" fix though, just swap the signals.

Alternatively, they could keep the signal as-is, change the right signal to all arrows, and add a third all-orb RYG signal on the far left pole.

The second option would be more in line with MUTCD standards and recommendations. There shouldn't be a ball over the rightmost lane on this approach because it's a dedicated turn lane.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4917 on: February 02, 2023, 04:09:29 PM »

Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9

I completely understand what they were going for here, but indeed, not compliant. "Easy" fix though, just swap the signals.

Alternatively, they could keep the signal as-is, change the right signal to all arrows, and add a third all-orb RYG signal on the far left pole.

The second option would be more in line with MUTCD standards and recommendations. There shouldn't be a ball over the rightmost lane on this approach because it's a dedicated turn lane.

Worth noting here is that the Port Authority's traffic signals at JFK and LGA Airports are New Jersey style signals even though they're in New York State. Same type mast-arms and configurations that exist in most of New Jersey. Not sure if that's relevant to this case, but still an interesting point of info.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4918 on: February 02, 2023, 04:12:12 PM »

At least theyíve gotten free from NYC click box controllers. ^^^^
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4919 on: February 02, 2023, 04:32:30 PM »

Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9

I completely understand what they were going for here, but indeed, not compliant. "Easy" fix though, just swap the signals.

Alternatively, they could keep the signal as-is, change the right signal to all arrows, and add a third all-orb RYG signal on the far left pole.

The second option would be more in line with MUTCD standards and recommendations. There shouldn't be a ball over the rightmost lane on this approach because it's a dedicated turn lane.

Worth noting here is that the Port Authority's traffic signals at JFK and LGA Airports are New Jersey style signals even though they're in New York State. Same type mast-arms and configurations that exist in most of New Jersey. Not sure if that's relevant to this case, but still an interesting point of info.

The signals are split phase on all sides so second option makes the most sense. And yes its a PANYNJ setup, but they're not always consistent. Case in point next signal over has curved mast arms, one NYC guy wire, and NYC style right turn FYA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eXkPMSTC2LNGHYX76
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4920 on: February 02, 2023, 04:55:26 PM »

At least theyíve gotten free from NYC click box controllers. ^^^^
Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9

I completely understand what they were going for here, but indeed, not compliant. "Easy" fix though, just swap the signals.

Alternatively, they could keep the signal as-is, change the right signal to all arrows, and add a third all-orb RYG signal on the far left pole.

The second option would be more in line with MUTCD standards and recommendations. There shouldn't be a ball over the rightmost lane on this approach because it's a dedicated turn lane.

Worth noting here is that the Port Authority's traffic signals at JFK and LGA Airports are New Jersey style signals even though they're in New York State. Same type mast-arms and configurations that exist in most of New Jersey. Not sure if that's relevant to this case, but still an interesting point of info.

The signals are split phase on all sides so second option makes the most sense. And yes its a PANYNJ setup, but they're not always consistent. Case in point next signal over has curved mast arms, one NYC guy wire, and NYC style right turn FYA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eXkPMSTC2LNGHYX76
Relatively new signal at LaGuardia airport, left lane is option right lane is right turn only. 4 section ball and right arrow signal to the left of a standard RYG signal, with another 4 section behind the camera, move back to see the intersection. Sleek but sloppy and not MUTCD compliant

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc1SNuzHWswkoK9K9

I completely understand what they were going for here, but indeed, not compliant. "Easy" fix though, just swap the signals.

Alternatively, they could keep the signal as-is, change the right signal to all arrows, and add a third all-orb RYG signal on the far left pole.

The second option would be more in line with MUTCD standards and recommendations. There shouldn't be a ball over the rightmost lane on this approach because it's a dedicated turn lane.

Worth noting here is that the Port Authority's traffic signals at JFK and LGA Airports are New Jersey style signals even though they're in New York State. Same type mast-arms and configurations that exist in most of New Jersey. Not sure if that's relevant to this case, but still an interesting point of info.

The signals are split phase on all sides so second option makes the most sense. And yes its a PANYNJ setup, but they're not always consistent. Case in point next signal over has curved mast arms, one NYC guy wire, and NYC style right turn FYA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eXkPMSTC2LNGHYX76

That is quite a surprise! I haven't driven to LGA since the reconstruction and didn't know they had used other types of mast-arms and configurations. Never seen that before at a Port Authority facility. Those curved mast-arms look like NYS DOT spec and the signal on the right is a NYC style mast-arm/guy wire. Very interesting!
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4921 on: February 02, 2023, 05:35:24 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/1FYKvDtEVw7ZzADm7
It gets even better. Side mounted signal heads at another location in LGA.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4922 on: February 02, 2023, 07:24:29 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/1FYKvDtEVw7ZzADm7
It gets even better. Side mounted signal heads at another location in LGA.

That set of signals is less than 500 feet from runway 4, you're basically right next to planes landing or taking off so that makes sense.

Meanwhile at JFK near the uber lot, NJ style signals on a NY style spanwire

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6117objvFkvi9Jqo9

JFK is littered with mix and match signal configurations everywhere on airport property
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4923 on: February 03, 2023, 08:46:45 AM »

I spent two years looking at intersections in eastern Massachusetts. There is no split second. When a light appears to be off in GSV, it's almost always a flashing yellow/red (whether it's that way naturally or because of a power outage).

I can't figure out this one, though.

Probably because itís dangerous for signals to be completely dark. Iíve seen it happen, but itís only for emergencies, and itís never meant to function that way.

Crossing a 4 lane DCR road at a Ped signal where the signal is dark is, extremely scary.

 A lot of pedestrians are so reckless when they cross that they wouldn't know the difference...........

Typical victim blaming.

Pedestrians are the vulnerable road user, and have the right of way even if they're crossing not at a crosswalk or against a don't walk sign if they're in the roadway. I've never seen a pedestrian cross against the light at this location.
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Re: Traffic signal
« Reply #4924 on: February 03, 2023, 04:43:56 PM »

Traffic signals mounted on a building in New Orleans.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6KS2oz9NTZzB7MVbA
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