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How are 3 digit interstate #'s determined?

Started by bluecountry, April 02, 2024, 03:29:40 PM

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dvferyance

Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 02, 2024, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: jlam on April 02, 2024, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 02, 2024, 05:34:50 PMI always figured they just started at the lowest number (1xx or 2xx) then went up as more were added.  Occasionally a number may be skipped - a planned route never occurred, or an adjoining state already had the low route number so they used the next one to avoid confusion.

Tell that to I-820

Wasn't that State Route 820, then they gave it an upgrade to I-820?  I believe that's the backstory there as to how it was given an unusually high number.
There sure is because radio station WBAP is on AM 820.


TheStranger

Quote from: bluecountry on April 19, 2024, 07:53:53 PM1.  So basically when choosing which even or odd 1st digit, there is no rule, things vary by state?

From what I've seen in the thread, this seems to be the case.  Some use middle or higher numbers to leave room for lower numbers in the future sequence (i.e. California starting out with 405 and 605 and 805, before creating 205), others do it purely in order (the odd 3dis in South Carolina), and some definitely are more "this number is available, why not use it" (I-820 in Texas stands out, as does I-985 in Georgia).

Quote from: bluecountry on April 19, 2024, 07:53:53 PM2.  Why is the DC beltway 495 and the Baltimore 695?

Could this be "Maryland numbering things in geographic order" - 295, 495 both in the DC area, 695 then a bit up north?

Quote from: bluecountry on April 19, 2024, 07:53:53 PM3.  If a 3 digit interstate ends at another interstate it must be even, correct, EVEN if that interstate is not an offshoot of 2 digit (Fictionally 387 starts at 87 and ends at 684)?

Not necessarily (see I-355, the Kansas I-135, the under-construction I-369, I-505).  Note that 135 and 505 replaced suffixed Interstate routes (35W and 5W).
Chris Sampang

Rothman

Quote from: bluecountry on April 19, 2024, 07:53:53 PM1.  So basically when choosing which even or odd 1st digit, there is no rule, things vary by state?
2.  Why is the DC beltway 495 and the Baltimore 695?
3.  If a 3 digit interstate ends at another interstate it must be even, correct, EVEN if that interstate is not an offshoot of 2 digit (Fictionally 387 starts at 87 and ends at 684)?

1) Yes.
2) Sometimes, there is little reason behind the numbering.
3) No.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

vdeane

On thing that's worth noting is that 3di numbers don't duplicate within a state, and I-495 exists in both MD and VA (and a tiny piece of DC).  Thus, I-295 for Richmond, I-495 for DC, and I-695 for Baltimore was somewhat dictated by the fact that I-495 exists.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

TheStranger

Quote from: vdeane on April 19, 2024, 10:43:00 PMOn thing that's worth noting is that 3di numbers don't duplicate within a state, and I-495 exists in both MD and VA (and a tiny piece of DC).  Thus, I-295 for Richmond, I-495 for DC, and I-695 for Baltimore was somewhat dictated by the fact that I-495 exists.

DC/MD do have the I-295 along the Anacostia River (which connects to DC 295/MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway as one long corridor).
Chris Sampang

vdeane

Quote from: TheStranger on April 20, 2024, 02:30:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on April 19, 2024, 10:43:00 PMOn thing that's worth noting is that 3di numbers don't duplicate within a state, and I-495 exists in both MD and VA (and a tiny piece of DC).  Thus, I-295 for Richmond, I-495 for DC, and I-695 for Baltimore was somewhat dictated by the fact that I-495 exists.

DC/MD do have the I-295 along the Anacostia River (which connects to DC 295/MD 295/Baltimore-Washington Parkway as one long corridor).
Which notably does not enter VA.  Similarly, Baltimore has a short I-395 while VA and DC have a longer one.  And I-195 will exist separately in all three jurisdictions (while DC will lose its I-695) if/when the I-395/I-695 renumbering happens.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

freebrickproductions

Quote from: bluecountry on April 19, 2024, 07:53:53 PM1.  So basically when choosing which even or odd 1st digit, there is no rule, things vary by state?

Even vs. odd for the first digit is typically determined by the use the route will serve, IIRC. Odd numbers indicate it's a spur (for example: I-565 in Alabama) while even numbers indicate it's a bypass (for example: I-840 in Tennessee) or a beltway (for example: I-285 in Georgia).
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