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kalvado

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2023, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: kalvado on May 29, 2023, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2023, 03:44:21 PM
Having two stickers displayed at once can make it hard to determine whether a registration is expired or not when a car goes whizzing past at 70 mph. To be sure, it's still less of a problem than when it happens in Oklahoma, where doing such a thing obscures actual information needed to determine whether the registration is valid or not (since the year stickers contain no month information).
Checking stickers in the 70 mph traffic must require vision much better than 20\20....

The years are all color coded. If you know this year's sticker is blue, red stickers are potentially expired (obviously, this means you have to check the month sticker to see whether it is or not, and it's basically illegible from any real distance because Oklahoma is not well known for being run by people of great intellect). Of course, if you see a red sticker in the upper right because the idiot put the blue one on the upper left, that causes a problem.
Of course a cop checking those stickers in 70 MPH traffic isn't very wise one... Is expired  registration a primary offence in OK to begin with?


Alex

Quote from: doglover44 on May 29, 2023, 09:39:29 PM
How many states are getting new plates this year ?

As far as standard passenger vehicle tags, thus far Rhode Island as of January. Mississippi's new base will start with January 2024 renewals.

hotdogPi

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2023, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: kalvado on May 29, 2023, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2023, 03:44:21 PM
Having two stickers displayed at once can make it hard to determine whether a registration is expired or not when a car goes whizzing past at 70 mph. To be sure, it's still less of a problem than when it happens in Oklahoma, where doing such a thing obscures actual information needed to determine whether the registration is valid or not (since the year stickers contain no month information).
Checking stickers in the 70 mph traffic must require vision much better than 20\20....

The years are all color coded. If you know this year's sticker is blue, red stickers are potentially expired (obviously, this means you have to check the month sticker to see whether it is or not, and it's basically illegible from any real distance because Oklahoma is not well known for being run by people of great intellect). Of course, if you see a red sticker in the upper right because the idiot put the blue one on the upper left, that causes a problem.

I've mentioned this before, but who needs month stickers when in Massachusetts it's just the last digit of the plate?

And since you mentioned it, 2023 is red. 2024 is blue.

That said, misplaced stickers are an issue in Massachusetts. Registration lasts for two years, and the colors rotate on a five-year cycle. I like to pretend that if a plate has three different stickers that aren't in consecutive years (e.g. 21-23-25 qualifies, but not 19-23-25 because 19 and 24 are the same color), it's eternally legal because there will always be cars on the road with at least one of the sticker colors.
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Flint1979

Yeah I can notice when a tag is expired myself. They are color coded by year like for 2024 it's an aqua color, 2023 is orange, 2022 was yellow, 2021 was white, I can't remember 2020 or before that though. This is for the State of Michigan.

rlb2024

I don't think that Louisiana really cares about expired plates that much.  The renewal stickers are all white with black printing, and have been for at least 15 years.  Car renewals are for 2 years, pickup trucks for 4 years.  You have to look really closely to see if a tag is expired, and I see a bunch of expired ones every day.  Same with brake tags (inspection stickers), although the expiration year is color-coded for them -- at least for the state-issued ones (New Orleans, Kenner, and Westwego issue their own).

SEWIGuy

I doubt law enforcement pays any attention to license registration unless they have to. How many people get pulled over solely for having expired tags?

frankenroad

Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 30, 2023, 01:52:46 PM
I doubt law enforcement pays any attention to license registration unless they have to. How many people get pulled over solely for having expired tags?

Around here it doesn't happen very often; in fact during the height of the pandemic, Ohio allowed people to drive on expired plates.  That grace period is long gone, but I still see cars whose latest sticker is from 2020.

Back in the day, it was pretty common.  A friend of mine had plates that expired on 9/30.  On the morning of October 1, on his way to the DMV, he got pulled over for having expired plates.  This was  in New Hampshire around 1987. 
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mgk920

Quote from: frankenroad on May 31, 2023, 03:46:51 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 30, 2023, 01:52:46 PM
I doubt law enforcement pays any attention to license registration unless they have to. How many people get pulled over solely for having expired tags?

Around here it doesn't happen very often; in fact during the height of the pandemic, Ohio allowed people to drive on expired plates.  That grace period is long gone, but I still see cars whose latest sticker is from 2020.

Back in the day, it was pretty common.  A friend of mine had plates that expired on 9/30.  On the morning of October 1, on his way to the DMV, he got pulled over for having expired plates.  This was  in New Hampshire around 1987.

Nowadays, and I have mentioned this many times before, if you look in your mairrors and find that a police car is right behind you in normal traffic, assume that the plates on your car have already been read and checked for being 'current' as well as for any other outstanding warrants.  Automatic plate readers are standard equipment in modern police cars.  Several states have dropped the issuance of annual renewal stickers as a consequence.

Mike

rlb2024

Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 30, 2023, 01:52:46 PM
I doubt law enforcement pays any attention to license registration unless they have to. How many people get pulled over solely for having expired tags?
The police in our small town set up roadblocks about twice a year to check for expired brake tags.  That's about the only time I see registration or inspection being checked.

kurumi

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3xe9/maryland-license-plates-now-inadvertently-advertising-filipino-online-casino

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In 2012, to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the War of 1812, Maryland redesigned its standard license plate to read "MARYLAND WAR OF 1812."  The license plates, which were the default between 2012 and 2016, have the URL www.starspangled200.org printed at the bottom.

Sometime within the last year, www.starspangled200.org ... started instead redirecting to a site called globeinternational.info, in which a blinking, bikini-clad woman advertises "Philippines Best Betting Site, Deposit 100 Receive 250."

Go back to the plain two-color scheme each state had, limited to optional county names and official nicknames like "The Garden State", and you avoid this problem :-)
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Scott5114

It has nothing to do with artwork; the problem here is including URLs on license plates, especially ones like the Maryland one that aren't actually controlled by the government.
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MikeTheActuary

https://www.ctinsider.com/projects/2023/ct-dmv-rejected-vanity-license-plates/?_ga=2.232683999.153443636.1685440982-1228410835.1682432004

While the body of the article is a puff-piece focusing on rejected vanity plate requests in Connecticut in 2022, embedded in the article are stats for the number of different specialty plates sold in the state during 2022, as well as a list of all the vanity plates that were approved in state last year.

hotdogPi

Quote from: kurumi on June 01, 2023, 06:03:44 PM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3xe9/maryland-license-plates-now-inadvertently-advertising-filipino-online-casino

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In 2012, to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the War of 1812, Maryland redesigned its standard license plate to read "MARYLAND WAR OF 1812."  The license plates, which were the default between 2012 and 2016, have the URL www.starspangled200.org printed at the bottom.

Sometime within the last year, www.starspangled200.org ... started instead redirecting to a site called globeinternational.info, in which a blinking, bikini-clad woman advertises "Philippines Best Betting Site, Deposit 100 Receive 250."

1. At least it's better than a porn site.

2. Philippines? There, "deposit 100 receive 250" is equivalent to "deposit $2 receive $5" here. Not exactly enticing.
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Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

1995hoo

Quote from: kurumi on June 01, 2023, 06:03:44 PM
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3xe9/maryland-license-plates-now-inadvertently-advertising-filipino-online-casino

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In 2012, to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the War of 1812, Maryland redesigned its standard license plate to read "MARYLAND WAR OF 1812."  The license plates, which were the default between 2012 and 2016, have the URL www.starspangled200.org printed at the bottom.

Sometime within the last year, www.starspangled200.org ... started instead redirecting to a site called globeinternational.info, in which a blinking, bikini-clad woman advertises "Philippines Best Betting Site, Deposit 100 Receive 250."

Go back to the plain two-color scheme each state had, limited to optional county names and official nicknames like "The Garden State", and you avoid this problem :-)

The Washington Post is trying to turn this into another of its imaginary scandals by trying to make Maryland look incompetent. Apparently the website functioned just fine until last August and then in December this Filipino company acquired the URL. Given that the website in question was about the 200th anniversary of the British attack on Fort McHenry, it is hardly a surprise to any reasonable person that the website eventually shut down. If anything, the story is simply a cautionary tale about treating anything on the Internet as though it were permanent. Even government agencies reorganize their websites from time to time, and in doing so existing links may "break" even if the same material remains available at a new URL.
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Rothman

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RyanB06

https://www.bangordailynews.com/2023/06/02/politics/maine-chickadee-license-plate/

New ME license plate in the works; design mirrors original state flag. Looks like it'll be available starting in 2025 as the standard issue replacing the current Chickadee plate.

jakeroot

Quote from: Rothman on June 03, 2023, 08:47:29 AM
Not sure if this is true:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRoXsb87/

Is this a follow-up to the replies above yours? It seems to be true.

Road Hog

Most cop cars these days have license plate loggers which can tell them instantly not only when the tags expire, but also where you live, where you work, whether you own a firearm, who you're married to, who your favorite football team is and probably your favorite ice cream flavor. Pulling you over for a wrong color tag is just an excuse.

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gonealookin

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Quote from: gonealookin on May 30, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 29, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: sandiaman on May 28, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
In New Mexico,  it is legal  to use the same plate  to pile on annual stickers. Some are from the mid 90's (the balloon style plate) and many are barely legible. The owner is  required to pay for a new plate if the car is ticketed for an illegible plate.  This is not right, the state  should not  allow any plate to extend over ten years, that is the shelf life of the average plate.  We have three general  plates in current use  now   (not counting vanity plates), red on gray, red on yellow and the newest , yellow on turquoise.

Re: plates over 10 years.  Come to California.  I think any plate from the mid 50s through today is technically still valid. :-)

Nevada's Assembly has passed AB 484, which would require that the DMV reissue license plates every 8 years.  Because of the additional fee required at the time of reissuance, this bill requires a 2/3 vote in both the Assembly and Senate to become law.  It squeaked by in the Assembly (actually it didn't get 2/3 on the first vote, but it came up for a second vote and got 2 more Ayes), no idea what might happen in the Senate or on the Governor's desk, but we'll know soon because the legislative session is just about over.

That did become law.

QuoteNRS 482.265  License plates issued upon registration; stickers, tabs or other devices issued upon renewal of registration; reissuance; return of plates; fee for and limitations on issuance of special license plates.

2.  Except as otherwise provided in NRS 482.2065, 482.266, 482.2705, 482.274, 482.368, 482.379 and 482.37901, every 8 years the Department shall reissue a license plate or plates at the time of renewal of each license plate or plates issued pursuant to this chapter. The Director may adopt regulations to provide procedures for such reissuance.

...but, 8 years later, Nevada's Assembly and Senate have both unanimously passed AB 457, which repeals that requirement for reissuance of license plates every 8 years.

rlb2024

Quote from: rhen_var on June 04, 2023, 09:44:30 PM
Quote from: Fredddie on February 07, 2023, 01:46:41 AM
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2023/01/30/blackout-plates-popular-in-other-states-may-be-headed-for-minnesota

Minnesota might get "blackout" plates, which are hugely popular in Iowa.
If I am understanding correctly, the blackout plates were included in this bill which was passed in May:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/bill.php?b=house&f=HF2887&ssn=0&y=2023
Mississippi has them, and they look pretty cool.  Since Mississippi plates have the county name at the bottom, I saw a car from Jones County recently with the vanity blackout plate of "INDIANA".

(Indiana Jones.  Nice.)

roadfro

Quote from: gonealookin on June 05, 2023, 10:18:40 PM
Quote from: gonealookin on May 30, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 29, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
Quote from: sandiaman on May 28, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
In New Mexico,  it is legal  to use the same plate  to pile on annual stickers. Some are from the mid 90's (the balloon style plate) and many are barely legible. The owner is  required to pay for a new plate if the car is ticketed for an illegible plate.  This is not right, the state  should not  allow any plate to extend over ten years, that is the shelf life of the average plate.  We have three general  plates in current use  now   (not counting vanity plates), red on gray, red on yellow and the newest , yellow on turquoise.

Re: plates over 10 years.  Come to California.  I think any plate from the mid 50s through today is technically still valid. :-)

Nevada's Assembly has passed AB 484, which would require that the DMV reissue license plates every 8 years.  Because of the additional fee required at the time of reissuance, this bill requires a 2/3 vote in both the Assembly and Senate to become law.  It squeaked by in the Assembly (actually it didn't get 2/3 on the first vote, but it came up for a second vote and got 2 more Ayes), no idea what might happen in the Senate or on the Governor's desk, but we'll know soon because the legislative session is just about over.

That did become law.

QuoteNRS 482.265  License plates issued upon registration; stickers, tabs or other devices issued upon renewal of registration; reissuance; return of plates; fee for and limitations on issuance of special license plates.

2.  Except as otherwise provided in NRS 482.2065, 482.266, 482.2705, 482.274, 482.368, 482.379 and 482.37901, every 8 years the Department shall reissue a license plate or plates at the time of renewal of each license plate or plates issued pursuant to this chapter. The Director may adopt regulations to provide procedures for such reissuance.

...but, 8 years later, Nevada's Assembly and Senate have both unanimously passed AB 457, which repeals that requirement for reissuance of license plates every 8 years.

I had no idea that was even under consideration. Wonder why they backtracked on that just a few years later...

There are several of the flat Sunset plates from the late 2000s/early 2010s that aged badly (peeling and discolored), particularly in Southern Nevada, that was probably the impetus for the original law to begin with. Not all of those got changed out while the reissuance was in effect
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

jzn110

Quote from: Flint1979 on May 27, 2023, 01:28:51 PM
At last count on May 24th there were about 659, 000 winter water wonderland plates on the road and about 4.1 million pure Michigan plates on the road.

What's the statistic on the Mackinac Bridge plates?

Quote from: Flint1979 on May 30, 2023, 11:00:50 AM
Yeah I can notice when a tag is expired myself. They are color coded by year like for 2024 it's an aqua color, 2023 is orange, 2022 was yellow, 2021 was white, I can't remember 2020 or before that though. This is for the State of Michigan.

Michigan rotates between those four colors.

SidS1045

Quote from: 1 on May 30, 2023, 10:34:07 AMwho needs month stickers when in Massachusetts it's just the last digit of the plate?

Registrations are for two years, so LEO's won't know what year the plate expires without a sticker.  Out-of-state LEO's don't necessarily know Massachusetts' system.  And...some MA plates, such as vanity plates with no numbers, don't even have the expiration month on the plate.
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Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: SidS1045 on June 12, 2023, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 30, 2023, 10:34:07 AMwho needs month stickers when in Massachusetts it's just the last digit of the plate?

Registrations are for two years, so LEO's won't know what year the plate expires without a sticker.  Out-of-state LEO's don't necessarily know Massachusetts' system.  And...some MA plates, such as vanity plates with no numbers, don't even have the expiration month on the plate.

IIRC, vanity plates expire in November or December.



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