So, I've been without A/C for two days and I have windows open, but the heat is very stagnant - humid. At the time of posting this, it's 88* and climbing. I am staying hydrated, anyone have tips for relieving some of this heat?
Thanks!
A) Go north.
B) Fans. They can't reduce the humidity but they'll at least circulate the air.
C) If one has opened, find a "cooling shelter".
Quote from: froggie on May 27, 2018, 08:17:13 PM
C) If one has opened, find a "cooling shelter".
It is called "mall" over here.
Spend as much time as possible in your basement, or the ground floor of your house. The lower, the better.
I had this happen one year at my house in Scottsdale during the summer when it was 120F out. The house ended up at 105F inside before the AC came back on. I spent my days in the basement and slept out on an air mattress on the pool. Best advice I can give is get a ton of Poweraid and wear light clothing.
I'll echo fans, and if you can put one in a window on a shaded side of your residence, do that and run it 24/7 if your location allows. My dorm room first year of college had no AC and putting a box fan in a window running 24/7 helped a lot (thankfully, I wasn't on the ground floor). While, as froggie noted, it doesn't help with humid air, running a fan like that at night is key for circulating the cooler nighttime air.
Quote from: froggie on May 27, 2018, 08:17:13 PM
A) Go north.
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About 1000 miles, maybe more. Today it was even warm in the UP of Michigan, unless you were within a half mile or so of Lake Superior. There may even still be ice between the rocks near the Eagle Harbor Lighthouse.
I thought we had a box fan in the garage, and we did so I have it as close as I an get it. At the time of posting this, it's 89*. There was supposed to be the actual repairman coming today, because yesterday they only sent a diagnostician. It's 8pm and no show :(.
Heh. If you think living without AC for 2 days is hard, imagine living without AC and electricity for 25 years. The only concession you get is living by the seaside. The only way to keep yourself cool is by drinking tons of water (which may not be cool), and hope you get a sea breeze during the nights. Did I mention that you have to deal with the climate of the Philippines?
Anyways, if you want to stay cool, then drink plenty of water from a cooler. You can also put cool drinks against your neck to help cool you down. You could also drive around with the windows down at 30+ MPH - the winds outside should help cool you down, or use the AC in the car.
Get yourself a little window unit (about 5,000 BTU) to run in your bedroom. It will significantly save your summer electric bill.
Quote from: Road Hog on May 27, 2018, 09:50:38 PM
Get yourself a little window unit (about 5,000 BTU) to run in your bedroom. It will significantly save your summer electric bill.
Ditto this. They aren't terribly expensive.
Quote from: noelbotevera on May 27, 2018, 09:02:22 PM
Heh. If you think living without AC for 2 days is hard, imagine living without AC and electricity for 25 years. The only concession you get is living by the seaside. The only way to keep yourself cool is by drinking tons of water (which may not be cool), and hope you get a sea breeze during the nights. Did I mention that you have to deal with the climate of the Philippines?
Anyways, if you want to stay cool, then drink plenty of water from a cooler. You can also put cool drinks against your neck to help cool you down. You could also drive around with the windows down at 30+ MPH - the winds outside should help cool you down, or use the AC in the car.
I'm sorry, but I don't get your point... 25 years and your age is 14. It is unpleasant, yes, but I am bearing through it. I am looking out for my safety, as this place doesn't have ideal ventilation.
I forgot to mention my daytime temperature in the summer in Fresno is set to 88F. That dates back to when I was living in Phoenix fighting a losing battle with the utility bill. The odd thing is that kind of get used to it after awhile, I even kept doing it in Florida. Really unless you're exerting yourself staying adequately hydrated ought not to on the hard side. Might be uncomfortable for awhile until you accumulate to the warmer conditions.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 27, 2018, 09:53:56 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on May 27, 2018, 09:50:38 PM
Get yourself a little window unit (about 5,000 BTU) to run in your bedroom. It will significantly save your summer electric bill.
Ditto this. They aren't terribly expensive.
Indeed, they are about $100 at Lowe's. Given the high age of my central system I got one simply to reduce the load in hot weather. It will cool more than just a bedroom. Modern ones can safely run 24/7 for days at a time. They are also fairly quiet.
Traditionally, air conditioning hasn't been necessary up here in the Northwest. But the summers have been getting unbearably warm and I'm close to giving up and buying a window unit just to survive the nights.
As a person who becomes unbearably irritable and unpleasant when unwillingly subjected to prolonged temperatures much above 80°F, I will continue to consider refrigeration the greatest invention of the 20th century.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 27, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
As a person who becomes unbearably irritable and unpleasant when unwillingly subjected to prolonged temperatures much above 80°F, I will continue to consider refrigeration the greatest invention of the 20th century.
Hey, if I had room in the fridge, I'd be there right now.
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Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 27, 2018, 09:59:52 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on May 27, 2018, 09:02:22 PM
Heh. If you think living without AC for 2 days is hard, imagine living without AC and electricity for 25 years. The only concession you get is living by the seaside. The only way to keep yourself cool is by drinking tons of water (which may not be cool), and hope you get a sea breeze during the nights. Did I mention that you have to deal with the climate of the Philippines?
Anyways, if you want to stay cool, then drink plenty of water from a cooler. You can also put cool drinks against your neck to help cool you down. You could also drive around with the windows down at 30+ MPH - the winds outside should help cool you down, or use the AC in the car.
I'm sorry, but I don't get your point... 25 years and your age is 14. It is unpleasant, yes, but I am bearing through it. I am looking out for my safety, as this place doesn't have ideal ventilation.
I was referring to my mom; between her birth and when she left for Saudi Arabia, the situation I described was one of her daily struggles she had to contend with.
Quote from: Bruce on May 27, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
Traditionally, air conditioning hasn't been necessary up here in the Northwest. But the summers have been getting unbearably warm and I'm close to giving up and buying a window unit just to survive the nights.
There is that climate acclamation... When I was up there in Washington last week people were complaining it was roasting hot on the day it was 75F and sunny. :-D
On the flip side, my significant other was struggling the day we went to Hurricane Ridge with the weather in the 50s. She was having some issues seeing in the snow as well even though it was cloudy out. Its kind of amusing how we're generally products of the weather we grow up in or are exposed to.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 28, 2018, 12:23:01 AM
Quote from: Bruce on May 27, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
Traditionally, air conditioning hasn't been necessary up here in the Northwest. But the summers have been getting unbearably warm and I'm close to giving up and buying a window unit just to survive the nights.
There is that climate acclamation... When I was up there in Washington last week people were complaining it was roasting hot on the day it was 75F and sunny. :-D
Humidity probably had something to do with that.
take a leaf off Southern Europe's book. Stop light getting in the house, let air move through the house. That said, they typically don't have the humidity. But in Indonesia, all the houses had bug-mesh as windows, letting the humid air in (they didn't have aircon save for a few places, despite tropical climate where 85F was put-on-warm-clothes weather).
That said, Saturday I made the stupid mistake of opening the patio door to get some air movement in the house to deal with the funk - it was tolerably hot before, but afterwards... It was humid, even for the UK (and about 85F).
I think a lot of the posters in this thread fail to comprehend that Oklahoma (Ft Smith is barely not Oklahoma) is almost uninhabitable in the summer with no AC. 95° and dewpoints in the 80s is a nice day in the summer here. It will get worse in a couple months.
Looks like there's a chance of storms Tuesday, so maybe that will cool things off–although it may just make the humidity worse.
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 28, 2018, 03:49:23 AM
I think a lot of the posters in this thread fail to comprehend that Oklahoma (Ft Smith is barely not Oklahoma) is almost uninhabitable in the summer with no AC. 95° and dewpoints in the 80s is a nice day in the summer here. It will get worse in a couple months.
Looks like there's a chance of storms Tuesday, so maybe that will cool things off–although it may just make the humidity worse.
I'm downtown, so the heat is not too great regardless.
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 28, 2018, 03:49:23 AM
I think a lot of the posters in this thread fail to comprehend that Oklahoma (Ft Smith is barely not Oklahoma) is almost uninhabitable in the summer with no AC. 95° and dewpoints in the 80s is a nice day in the summer here. It will get worse in a couple months.
I was in Oklahoma a couple summers ago, and the heat was almost unbearable. Temperatures were more than 100 with dewpoints pushing 80. Heat index was close to 120, and the weather service issued an Excessive Heat Warning. In that kind of weather, if you want to do something outside, it has to be before sunrise and even then, it’s still gonna be uncomfortable. After the sun comes up, unless you’re going swimming, it is damn near impossible to be out there for more than a few minutes at a time. I can’t imagine what that would be like without AC.
The interesting part is that in Oklahoma, dewpoint does not necessarily correlate with storms: just because the dewpoint is high doesn’t really mean the chance of storms is also high. Compare that with a place like Utah, where if the dewpoint is above 50 there is almost always a good chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon.
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 28, 2018, 05:19:03 AM
I'm downtown, so the heat is not too great regardless.
I would have thought the urban heat island effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island) would make the heat worse downtown.
Quote from: US 89 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:08 AM
I was in Oklahoma a couple summers ago, and the heat was almost unbearable. Temperatures were more than 100 with dewpoints pushing 80. Heat index was close to 120, and the weather service issued an Excessive Heat Warning. In that kind of weather, if you want to do something outside, it has to be before sunrise and even then, it's still gonna be uncomfortable. After the sun comes up, unless you're going swimming, it is damn near impossible to be out there for more than a few minutes at a time. I can't imagine what that would be like without AC.
How did they manage being outdoors before the days of AC?
I grew up without A/C in TX. Elementary school and most public buildings were un-airconditioned. People survived, but I personally am probably extra mean and grumpy to this day because of it. :-/
Fans. Ceiling fans. Box fans in the windows. Windows and interior doors open to allow for ventilation through the house. Screen doors if you can.
Wet clothing and hair. (not wet enough to drip but enough for the fans to be able to do evaporative cooling.) Wet bandana across forehead or neck.
Lightweight loose clothing. Cotton gauze/guayabera shirts/seersucker fabrics. (Sometimes you feel cooler with two layers, like an undershirt and a guayabera - it's counter-intuitive, but it often works)
Quote from: US 81 on May 28, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
I grew up without A/C in TX. Elementary school and most public buildings were un-airconditioned. People survived, but I personally am probably extra mean and grumpy to this day because of it. :-/
The elementary school I went to in central Florida in the 1960s didn't have AC. Of course the school year misses most of the summer. After the first couple weeks of school the temps become more moderate.
The junior high was built new in the late 1960s and it did have AC thruout the building. Most of the high school's buildings were much older and did not have AC.
Our house was built new in the early 1960s and had central AC with ductwork in the attic, so that was a modern installation for the time.
The point about keeping the window coverings closed if possible (unless they have to be open to use a fan) is an excellent point, especially on the side that gets the mid-afternoon sun.
None of the schools I attended growing up had AC. The teachers did what they could with fans.
My dad was a fan of black vehicles. We did not have air conditioning in a vehicle until he bought a new car in 1979, shortly after I graduated from high school. Most of our summer vacations were taken to areas south of here. It was miserable.
I spent the first 15 or so years of my life living in an old single-wide metal mobile home. We had one air conditioner for the whole thing, a big window unit in the front area (kitchen/dining area.) That thing got very toasty if the AC was turned off for any significant period of time.
I grew up without AC until sometime in high school when we finally had central air installed when it was time for a new furnace. What my dad used to do at night was open all the windows in the bedrooms, leave the bedroom doors all open, and then turn on the large almost industrial-sized window fan in the living room. He would have it blowing out, so it would suck out all the warm air from the day and cool night air would flow in the windows in the rest of the house. I put my bed right under the window and it was usually pretty comfortable sleeping. During the day we'd spend most of our time in the basement where it was usually 5-10 degrees cooler. This was in the Milwaukee, WI area. Summers are usually pretty humid. And we weren't close enough to Lake Michigan to get any of the cooling effect of the lake.
Any time frame for getting your AC back? And does it cool down at night at all?
I don't think I'd last long in those conditions, although staying hydrated, reducing food consumption, and using fans will all help.
Quote from: US 81 on May 28, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
(Sometimes you feel cooler with two layers, like an undershirt and a guayabera - it's counter-intuitive, but it often works)
Two layers? I think I'd prefer none to two, lol :-D
I can't sleep fully clothed even in the winter, much less the summer with no AC :ded:
Quote from: webny99 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
Any time frame for getting your AC back? And does it cool down at night at all?
I don't think I'd last long in those conditions, although staying hydrated, reducing food consumption, and using fans will all help.
Quote from: US 81 on May 28, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
(Sometimes you feel cooler with two layers, like an undershirt and a guayabera - it's counter-intuitive, but it often works)
Two layers? I think I'd prefer none to two, lol :-D
I can't sleep fully clothed even in the winter, much less the summer with no AC :ded:
The main drawback (aside from possibly offending family or others) to the no shirt approach is you tend to stick to the fabric to furniture in high heat. In that 105F example from Phoenix I kept a layer on so I wouldn't stick to my couch. I was going to sweat anyways so might as well not stick to things too.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 28, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: US 81 on May 28, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
(Sometimes you feel cooler with two layers, like an undershirt and a guayabera - it's counter-intuitive, but it often works)
Two layers? I think I'd prefer none to two, lol :-D
I can't sleep fully clothed even in the winter, much less the summer with no AC :ded:
The main drawback (aside from possibly offending family or others) to the no shirt approach is you tend to stick to the fabric to furniture in high heat. In that 105F example from Phoenix I kept a layer on so I wouldn't stick to my couch. I was going to sweat anyways so might as well not stick to things too.
Yeah, I was referring mainly to sleeping. But as far as lounging around the house, you've got a legitimate point, which I hadn't thought of, as I don't make a practice of lounging around shirtless (for good reason, of course ;-))
In my own case, I'd likely be at work or otherwise away from home during the primary heat of the day. If I wasn't, though? Yeesh. I'd probably find somewhere else to stay. Or stay outside, but at a certain temperature, even that is hardly bearable (if not worse).
Quote from: Road Hog on May 27, 2018, 09:50:38 PM
Get yourself a little window unit (about 5,000 BTU) to run in your bedroom. It will significantly save your summer electric bill.
My room gets awfully hot in the summer. My father has a spare one and he'd let me have it, but the neighborhood HOAholes will complain if I installed it. It's against their code for some asinine reason. Because I can't have an AC unit, I've resorted to having three fans in my room. When summer reaches it's peak, though, they're little help. They just blow hot air.
Quote from: Beltway on May 28, 2018, 06:41:24 AM
Quote from: US 89 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:08 AM
I was in Oklahoma a couple summers ago, and the heat was almost unbearable. Temperatures were more than 100 with dewpoints pushing 80. Heat index was close to 120, and the weather service issued an Excessive Heat Warning. In that kind of weather, if you want to do something outside, it has to be before sunrise and even then, it's still gonna be uncomfortable. After the sun comes up, unless you're going swimming, it is damn near impossible to be out there for more than a few minutes at a time. I can't imagine what that would be like without AC.
How did they manage being outdoors before the days of AC?
We more or less didn't. We weren't a state until 1907 (five years after the first Carrier air conditioner). Before that, we were a dumping ground for people that the US government wanted to go away. Pre-statehood settlers often lived in houses made of sod to shelter them from the heat.
Oklahoma's late development as a state also explains why its cities are far less urbanized than in neighboring states–Oklahoma City and Tulsa had a relatively scant amount of time to develop before the car was introduced.
Quote from: US 89 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:08 AM
The interesting part is that in Oklahoma, dewpoint does not necessarily correlate with storms: just because the dewpoint is high doesn't really mean the chance of storms is also high. Compare that with a place like Utah, where if the dewpoint is above 50 there is almost always a good chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon.
In fact, it's rather almost the opposite–spring thunderstorms in Oklahoma are generally fired off of the "dry line", which is the boundary between the humid air mass generally found over central and eastern Oklahoma and the more arid desert air in New Mexico and the Texas panhandle. The dry line is generally located somewhere around the north—south Texas—Oklahoma line during the day. As afternoon passes, the dry line advances east, triggering storms in much the same way that a warm front does. At night, the line returns to its usual location.
After spending enough time in Oklahoma, one becomes sensitive to the "right kind" of humid that's indicative of storms. There is simply a feeling to the particular flavor of instability that tends to indicate favorable conditions for supercell development.
Sleep on the fire escape.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20100901_Glenmoore_man_recognizes_parents_in__37_photo_on_fire_escape.html
Quote from: index on May 29, 2018, 12:44:01 AM
My room gets awfully hot in the summer. My father has a spare one and he'd let me have it, but the neighborhood HOAholes will complain if I installed it. It's against their code for some asinine reason. Because I can't have an AC unit, I've resorted to having three fans in my room. When summer reaches it's peak, though, they're little help. They just blow hot air.
More evidence that HOAs are evil.
The solution in this case is to get one of those little portable on-wheels units. They have a flexible exhaust hose that mounts inconspicuously in the window. The unit remains inside. That's less likely to draw the ire of the communists who run your HOA.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 29, 2018, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: index on May 29, 2018, 12:44:01 AM
My room gets awfully hot in the summer. My father has a spare one and he'd let me have it, but the neighborhood HOAholes will complain if I installed it. It's against their code for some asinine reason. Because I can't have an AC unit, I've resorted to having three fans in my room. When summer reaches it's peak, though, they're little help. They just blow hot air.
More evidence that HOAs are evil.
The solution in this case is to get one of those little portable on-wheels units. They have a flexible exhaust hose that mounts inconspicuously in the window. The unit remains inside. That's less likely to draw the ire of the communists who run your HOA.
It's probably something about "damaging the look of the neighborhood". As if anyone would care besides them. My neighborhood's HOA had also whined when a temporary clothesline was installed in my backyard, due to our dryer not working. As for a portable AC unit, I'll definitely consider that.
On another note, I like it very cold. In hotels I'll typically turn the temperature down as low as possible, which is usually around 60.
Quote from: webny99 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
Any time frame for getting your AC back? And does it cool down at night at all?
I don't think I'd last long in those conditions, although staying hydrated, reducing food consumption, and using fans will all help.
I was over at my Grandparent's place for last night for some relief. I called the office today (around 10 o'clock) and asked about the status of the repairman, the manager said they should be by today -- they were
supposed to come by over the weekend, but didn't.
While away, I left the box fan in the window on and the ceiling on the south side of the loft on, as well.
As far as cooling down at night, not too much:
QuoteQuote from: MNHighwayMan on May 27, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
As a person who becomes unbearably irritable and unpleasant when unwillingly subjected to prolonged temperatures much above 80°F, I will continue to consider refrigeration the greatest invention of the 20th century.
Hey, if I had room in the fridge, I’d be there right now.
The temperature hovers around 85-89 degrees, now you have to realize, it's Arkansas, so add a few degrees extra to the heat index.
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 05:32:26 AM
Quote from: US 89 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:08 AM
The interesting part is that in Oklahoma, dewpoint does not necessarily correlate with storms: just because the dewpoint is high doesn't really mean the chance of storms is also high. Compare that with a place like Utah, where if the dewpoint is above 50 there is almost always a good chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon.
In fact, it's rather almost the opposite–spring thunderstorms in Oklahoma are generally fired off of the "dry line", which is the boundary between the humid air mass generally found over central and eastern Oklahoma and the more arid desert air in New Mexico and the Texas panhandle. The dry line is generally located somewhere around the north—south Texas—Oklahoma line during the day. As afternoon passes, the dry line advances east, triggering storms in much the same way that a warm front does. At night, the line returns to its usual location.
After spending enough time in Oklahoma, one becomes sensitive to the "right kind" of humid that's indicative of storms. There is simply a feeling to the particular flavor of instability that tends to indicate favorable conditions for supercell development.
Interesting. Out here the mountains usually perform the same function as a dryline in firing off storms. Of course, the mountains are always there, but we don't get storms every day because moisture is typically the limiting factor. So when dewpoints get into the 40s and 50s, it's almost certain that storms will fire over the mountains and then blow into the valleys.
UPDATE:
So, they have fixed the A/C :bigass: :awesomeface:, but they said the compressor overheated and the fan fell off. The cool down for the compressor could take hours. so they're bringing me a window unit.
I am surprised by this, because we don't run it full blast during the day and it stay comfortable. At night it stays at 73 during cold times, I'd imagine 50's during the summer (right about now).
I have a window A/C unit in my spare bedroom. I only need to use it three to five nights a year at most, as the window fan in my main bedroom normally keeps me cool enough that I can sleep. Guess that's one of the benefits of having grown up in the generation before air conditioning units became cheap and compact enough that they are now considered a "necessity."
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 27, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
So, I've been without A/C for two days and I have windows open, but the heat is very stagnant - humid. At the time of posting this, it's 88* and climbing. I am staying hydrated, anyone have tips for relieving some of this heat?
Thanks!
When clicking this, I thought your car's air conditioner broke. But I have a sun roof. The other one has air conditioning. If you have any heat sensitive things in your car, keep them in the shade such as behind the front seat and a towel gently on them.
Also, if you have a Motor Home with Air Conditioning, stay in that.
If possible, swim.
My house has only Window Units. The tiniest of Window Units designed to keep the Cavias and the Computers and other sensitive things cool. Also with the computers I have industrial metal fans blowing on them. I also have air purifiers to assist with the Window Units. I have also Whole House air purifiers also. Ceiling Fans. (and hydronic electric heaters ... I do not have any central any thing.)
I do not ever wear shirts at my house ... and usually not while driving. I have no shirt when I sleep and also like to exercise and rinse off over and over again. I drink plenty of water also I try to cook food in the middle of the night. I do not use clothes dryer in the summer.
Tiny Window Units do not use much electricity. And they are easy to purchase, carry, install, and replace. I avoid Home Owner's Associations like The Plague.
As for school buildings, some classrooms had their own HVAC units, but most of the classrooms used shared boilers for heat and shared air conditioners. In one of the campuses, some idiot installed extra blowers that operated separately from the main blowers which made the classrooms even hotter. If the teachers left the unit alone, the main blowers would be able to do their job and the air conditioning vents provided a gentle flow of cool air. The added blowers would knock posters off the wall and but sometimes suck air from outside. Some teachers added giant Window Units and did not even bother with the shared air conditioners.
Wait, you're renting?
Having a broken AC is grounds to terminate your lease, or at the very least to get a discount on rent for May.
Quote from: Beltway on May 28, 2018, 06:41:24 AM
Quote from: US 89 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:08 AM
I was in Oklahoma a couple summers ago, and the heat was almost unbearable. Temperatures were more than 100 with dewpoints pushing 80. Heat index was close to 120, and the weather service issued an Excessive Heat Warning. In that kind of weather, if you want to do something outside, it has to be before sunrise and even then, it's still gonna be uncomfortable. After the sun comes up, unless you're going swimming, it is damn near impossible to be out there for more than a few minutes at a time. I can't imagine what that would be like without AC.
How did they manage being outdoors before the days of AC?
You don't miss what you never had. They were used to it. Coping strategies included drinking lots of water, doing hard physical work in the morning and evening and not so much in the middle of the afternoon, and wearing sun hats.
Quote from: Bruce on May 27, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
Traditionally, air conditioning hasn't been necessary up here in the Northwest. But the summers have been getting unbearably warm and I'm close to giving up and buying a window unit just to survive the nights.
I've never been without A/C (father can't sweat), until two years ago. Went and bought a stand-up (portable) A/C unit about two weeks after moving (I moved in late Spring). Top five all-time investment. I cannot believe anyone would go on for months without A/C. They're a small price to pay in the big picture.
I also live in the South Sound which is traditionally warmer than the north sound, plus I lived inland more than a few miles which exacerbated things. I've already seen 90 degree readings this year (at least at my personal weather station in my yard).
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2018, 07:54:16 PM
I've already seen 90 degree readings this year (at least at my personal weather station in my yard).
Cool! can you upload some pictures of it? Is it homemade or bought? What kinda contraptions does it have? A wind meter? A barometer?
Quote from: In_Correct on May 29, 2018, 06:14:12 PM
When clicking this, I thought your car's air conditioner broke. But I have a sun roof. The other one has air conditioning. If you have any heat sensitive things in your car, keep them in the shade such as behind the front seat and a towel gently on them.
Also, if you have a Motor Home with Air Conditioning, stay in that.
If possible, swim.
My house has only Window Units. The tiniest of Window Units designed to keep the Cavias and the Computers and other sensitive things cool. Also with the computers I have industrial metal fans blowing on them. I also have air purifiers to assist with the Window Units. I have also Whole House air purifiers also. Ceiling Fans. (and hydronic electric heaters ... I do not have any central any thing.)
I do not ever wear shirts at my house ... and usually not while driving. I have no shirt when I sleep and also like to exercise and rinse off over and over again. I drink plenty of water also I try to cook food in the middle of the night. I do not use clothes dryer in the summer.
Tiny Window Units do not use much electricity. And they are easy to purchase, carry, install, and replace. I avoid Home Owner's Associations like The Plague.
Lets just say by the time I got to the third sentence of this post, I quit trying to connect the dots. Don't take offense to that; I quite enjoyed the learning curve in expecting the unexpected :sombrero:
Ironically this was the first day this year I fired up the AC. We hit a high of 103F in Fresno and finally crossed the magic 82F night time temperature inside the house.
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 06:22:20 PM
Wait, you're renting?
Having a broken AC is grounds to terminate your lease, or at the very least to get a discount on rent for May.
We're considering a move. I am looking for a job, so when I can find a place, he may move to his boat.
Quote from: TheArkansasRoadgeek on May 29, 2018, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2018, 07:54:16 PM
I've already seen 90 degree readings this year (at least at my personal weather station in my yard).
Cool! can you upload some pictures of it? Is it homemade or bought? What kinda contraptions does it have? A wind meter? A barometer?
It is painfully simple. Best photo I could take at nearly 10pm. The blue in the background is actually twilight. It sits on top of a clothes line.
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Quote from: Beltway on May 28, 2018, 09:59:10 AMQuote from: US 81 on May 28, 2018, 09:12:08 AMI grew up without A/C in TX. Elementary school and most public buildings were un-airconditioned. People survived, but I personally am probably extra mean and grumpy to this day because of it. :-/
The elementary school I went to in central Florida in the 1960s didn't have AC. Of course the school year misses most of the summer. After the first couple weeks of school the temps become more moderate.
The junior high was built new in the late 1960s and it did have AC thruout the building. Most of the high school's buildings were much older and did not have AC.
I grew up in Wichita, and the three schools I went to for K-12 education were all built in the 1950's and lacked A/C. Newer schools did have A/C. In the early noughties, almost a decade after I graduated, the voters approved a bond issue to tear down and rebuild some aging schools (including my elementary school) and to retrofit A/C to others that did not already have it.
When I was in grade school, the school year typically started in late August, which is fairly late in the summer, and schools that did not have A/C operated on a heat contingency plan for about two weeks that called for turning off lights in the classroom in the afternoon (even high-efficiency fluorescent lights contribute perceptibly to passive heating) and dismissing school one hour early.
People who have to work outdoors, such as farmers and construction workers, have always been at work at first light (just after astronomical twilight) in the summer. As summer temperatures have risen, it has become more common to start work at 3 or even 2 AM, when it is still pitch-black dark, and rely on artificial light. This coming Saturday we will open our new main library, which is of slab-on-grade construction with the key concrete pours occurring in the late summer of 2016. IIRC prep on those days started at 2 AM with concrete coming out of mixers beginning at 3 AM.
Quote from: Beltway on May 28, 2018, 09:59:10 AMOur house was built new in the early 1960s and had central AC with ductwork in the attic, so that was a modern installation for the time.
Central A/C was definitely the norm for new house construction in Wichita by 1960, and probably by 1955. It took some time for insulation to catch up. Houses built in Wichita still had single-pane glass with storm windows by default in 1970. By the time my parents built their house in 1979, the default was double glazing without storm window construction. (My parents' windows were all of the casement type, with one fixed pane and one pane that can swivel out on an arm to allow fresh air in through a bug screen. Other houses built locally in the late 1970's/early 1980's have double-hung windows with two panes, both double-glazed, and no bug screen.) Now triple glazing is the norm in new construction. My parents insisted on more insulation than the builder provided by default, and when they had their furnace and A/C replaced about a decade ago, the HVAC installer told them that this decision had probably saved them many thousands of dollars over the years.
Prior to 1955, new houses tended to have swamp coolers instead of true refrigerant-based A/C, even though Wichita is a considerable distance east of the furthest reaches of the low-humidity belt (covering the Rocky Mountains and some of the high plains immediately to the east) where evaporative cooling is effective either on its own or as an energy-saving adjunct to refrigeration-based A/C. My maternal grandparents, who were farmers and were never accustomed to having indoor A/C, retired in the early 1970's to a house in town that had been built in 1953 and had swamp cooling only. When my grandfather died and my grandmother started to become too frail to live on her own, my mother had central HVAC retrofitted to make the house salable. My grandmother lived in the house for a couple of years thereafter and insisted on setting the A/C in the mid-eighties in the summer.
My first car was a 1978 Chevrolet Impala, which my maternal grandparents had bought new to replace a 1963 car of the same make and model. Neither had A/C. When I was in high school, I volunteered for two summers at the Wichita Public Library, and drove myself to the downtown library my second summer. For about a week or so I coped with the lack of A/C by wearing shorts, until a department head reprimanded me for inappropriate dress. It turned out that while shorts are perfectly acceptable for members of the public visiting the library, they are not for staff or for volunteers working alongside staff.
I can easily handle life without AC up here in Massachusetts. A good portion of my high school does not have any AC and people will usually complain on the hottest days (right around now). Because winters get so harsh and cold, I don't mind the heat at all.
Quote from: WR of USA on June 14, 2018, 11:20:33 AM
I can easily handle life without AC up here in Massachusetts. A good portion of my high school does not have any AC and people will usually complain on the hottest days (right around now). Because winters get so harsh and cold, I don't mind the heat at all.
When I traveled there for get-out-the-vote efforts in 2002, I stayed in a few houses in southern NH that did not have AC and were built after central AC was commonplace. It was mind-boggling.
Quote from: WR of USA on June 14, 2018, 11:20:33 AMI can easily handle life without AC up here in Massachusetts. A good portion of my high school does not have any AC and people will usually complain on the hottest days (right around now). Because winters get so harsh and cold, I don't mind the heat at all.
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 14, 2018, 11:39:15 AMWhen I traveled there for get-out-the-vote efforts in 2002, I stayed in a few houses in southern NH that did not have AC and were built after central AC was commonplace. It was mind-boggling.
Northern New England (NH, VT, and ME) is all Dfb. Most of inland Massachusetts is Dfb/Dfa, although the islands and certain coastal areas are Cfa. In the nineties I talked with a Vermont native who told me that people in his state typically bought cars without A/C, considering that option better left to snobs in Massachusetts and Connecticut with more money than sense.
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 14, 2018, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: WR of USA on June 14, 2018, 11:20:33 AMI can easily handle life without AC up here in Massachusetts. A good portion of my high school does not have any AC and people will usually complain on the hottest days (right around now). Because winters get so harsh and cold, I don't mind the heat at all.
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 14, 2018, 11:39:15 AMWhen I traveled there for get-out-the-vote efforts in 2002, I stayed in a few houses in southern NH that did not have AC and were built after central AC was commonplace. It was mind-boggling.
Northern New England (NH, VT, and ME) is all Dfb. Most of inland Massachusetts is Dfb/Dfa, although the islands and certain coastal areas are Cfa. In the nineties I talked with a Vermont native who told me that people in his state typically bought cars without A/C, considering that option better left to snobs in Massachusetts and Connecticut with more money than sense.
In the summer, Burlington VT and northern Connecticut (specifically the airport) are 3°F apart, which can make a moderate difference.
(Post edited; I was remembering the difference as 8°, but that's the difference in the winter, not in the summer.)
Quote from: WR of USA on June 14, 2018, 11:20:33 AM
I can easily handle life without AC up here in Massachusetts. A good portion of my high school does not have any AC and people will usually complain on the hottest days (right around now). Because winters get so harsh and cold, I don't mind the heat at all.
I have friends in the Buffalo NY area. A number of buildings there don't have AC. Summers are mild by southern standards.
AC is needed for the Midwest, between the Gulf moisture and the crop sweat. You'll easily see 80 degree dew-points during the height of a good corn season
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 27, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
As a person who becomes unbearably irritable and unpleasant when unwillingly subjected to prolonged temperatures much above 80°F, I will continue to consider refrigeration the greatest invention of the 20th century.
Greatest invention of the 18
th century, you mean.
Obviously it wasn't until the 20
th century that the technology became inexpensive and mass-produceable enough to start selling to ordinary people, and for the infrastructure necessary to support its use in homes to be in place, but it existed in proof of concept form as early as 1755.
Quote from: Duke87 on June 15, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 27, 2018, 11:41:40 PM
As a person who becomes unbearably irritable and unpleasant when unwillingly subjected to prolonged temperatures much above 80°F, I will continue to consider refrigeration the greatest invention of the 20th century.
Greatest invention of the 18th century, you mean.
Obviously it wasn't until the 20th century that the technology became inexpensive and mass-produceable enough to start selling to ordinary people, and for the infrastructure necessary to support its use in homes to be in place, but it existed in proof of concept form as early as 1755.
Well, I mean I kind of meant the modern kind, that runs on 120 or 240V AC and uses stuff like R-12 and R-134a as refrigerants, but yes, the tech did exist in some form before then. You are technically correct: the best kind of correct, and so on. ;-)