NY 17/"I-86"

[jp the roadgeek]

It reverted to I-84 about 35 years ago.

[roadman65]

It reverted to I-84 about 35 years ago.

Which one lol?  This one has had three different routes unlike I-84 that has only had two.

[sparker]

It reverted to I-84 about 35 years ago.

Which one lol?  This one has had three different routes unlike I-84 that has only had two.

I think he's referring to the old (and original) I-86 in CT and MA that reverted back to its original number of I-84 in 1984 after the Hartford-Providence freeway that was to become the rerouted I-84 was cancelled.  In other words, that I-86 got 86'ed! 

[TheDon102]

I think we're getting off topic.

[sparker]

^^^^^^^^^^^
The fact is that development of the east end of I-86 has been in a weird state of "limbo" for years; parts near the I-84 junction have been signed but the shields covered, and the easternmost section near I-87 seems to have a few local controversies that have delayed any activity there.  Combine that with the Hale Eddy situation, which seems, in both political and logistical terms, to defy any plans to solve it.  So it seems that unless someone from NYDOT pulls the proverbial rabbit out of a hat ("but that trick never works!")*, further development of I-86 is at an impasse.  So, basically, no new news to report (NY posters with info to the contrary are more than welcome to chime in here).

*Thanks and apologies to the late Jay Ward and Bill Scott.

[vdeane]

It's mostly dormant besides the Kamikaze Curve project, but projects that have significant reason to be done independent of I-86 do more forward.  Exit 131 is currently being rebuilt, and the reconstruction of exit 105 was recently announced.

[roadman65]

It reverted to I-84 about 35 years ago.

Which one lol?  This one has had three different routes unlike I-84 that has only had two.

I think he's referring to the old (and original) I-86 in CT and MA that reverted back to its original number of I-84 in 1984 after the Hartford-Providence freeway that was to become the rerouted I-84 was cancelled.  In other words, that I-86 got 86'ed! 

I know I was just joking but referring to the fact he brought up an interesting point many have forgotten.   That this current NY I-86 is a revision of the number on top of the one in Idaho, making I-86 more of just a typical two segment two digit interstate.

I-76, I-84, and I-88 were all first in their segments where I-86 was three actual alignments.

[webny99]

the reconstruction of exit 105 was recently announced.

What's wrong with Exit 105?
If they're looking for outdated cloverleaves to reconstruct, there are several in Buffalo..

[vdeane]

the reconstruction of exit 105 was recently announced.

What's wrong with Exit 105?
If they're looking for outdated cloverleaves to reconstruct, there are several in Buffalo..

It was announced along with a bunch of other freight improvement projects (first entry for the Mid-Hudson Region).  Rothman's list of outstanding I-86 projects included one labeled "Upgrade of deficient features on NY 42 from Monticello through the interchange with NY 17", which would be that location.

[seicer]

the reconstruction of exit 105 was recently announced.

What's wrong with Exit 105?
If they're looking for outdated cloverleaves to reconstruct, there are several in Buffalo..

It's located along a rather long curve with limited sight distances. There also is just not enough traffic either to justify a full cloverleaf interchange.

[machias]

 

the reconstruction of exit 105 was recently announced.

What's wrong with Exit 105?

At one time, R9 had one direction signed as "exit 105b" .  (Yes, all lowercase letters). I called it Exit 105 B-flat.

[yakra]

Any updates on I-86?

It's a short freeway connecting I-84 to I-15.

You mean I-86W to I-86E?

[sparker]

Any updates on I-86?

It's a short freeway connecting I-84 to I-15.

You mean I-86W to I-86E?

In.  Idaho. 

[hotdogPi]

Any updates on I-86?

It's a short freeway connecting I-84 to I-15.

You mean I-86W to I-86E?

In.  Idaho.

whoosh

[cl94]

Back on topic...

I drove through the Exit 131 construction today and it is operating as a DDI. This is likely new within the last couple of weeks and none of the online map platforms show it. It's a 2-lane exit from I-87 with an option lane. Detour ramp to 6/17 WB remains in place, don't think the new WB entrance ramp is open yet.

[GreenLanternCorps]

According to the NYSDOT Prospect Mountain webpage, the project should be completed by 1 MAR 2020.  Anyone local know if this indeed is the case?  Will I-86 then be signed from South Waverly to Binghamton?

https://www.dot.ny.gov/regional-offices/region9/projects/prospect-mountain-route-17

(You have to scroll down a bit to see it.)

[cl94]

According to the NYSDOT Prospect Mountain webpage, the project should be completed by 1 MAR 2020.  Anyone local know if this indeed is the case?  Will I-86 then be signed from South Waverly to Binghamton?

https://www.dot.ny.gov/regional-offices/region9/projects/prospect-mountain-route-17

(You have to scroll down a bit to see it.)

I think there is still a holdup in Tioga County. It has been signed through Broome County for a while.

[vdeane]

Most signs in Broome County have TO banners on them, though, unless that's changed recently.  As far as I know, the issues in Tioga County were addressed years ago, but it was never extended to NY 26 for some reason.  There's some issue between there and Prospect Mountain.

[cl94]

TO banners were generally nonexistent in November as far as I remember. I can check when down there next weekend.

[vdeane]

TO banners were generally nonexistent in November as far as I remember. I can check when down there next weekend.

To clarify: I was referring to these things, not the I-81 signs.

[empirestate]

According to the NYSDOT Prospect Mountain webpage, the project should be completed by 1 MAR 2020.  Anyone local know if this indeed is the case?  Will I-86 then be signed from South Waverly to Binghamton?

https://www.dot.ny.gov/regional-offices/region9/projects/prospect-mountain-route-17

(You have to scroll down a bit to see it.)

Dunno about the designation part, but having traveled through very recently, the work at Binghamton does indeed seem to be at or near completion.

[The Ghostbuster]

I'm sure Interstate 86 will be signposted from Exit 60 to Interstate 81. I doubt Interstate 86 will be signposted east of Exit 79 until they upgrade the whole roadway to Interstate Standards, and eliminate the at-grade intersections in Hale Eddy.

[vdeane]

I'm sure Interstate 86 will be signposted from Exit 60 to Interstate 81. I doubt Interstate 86 will be signposted east of Exit 79 until they upgrade the whole roadway to Interstate Standards, and eliminate the at-grade intersections in Hale Eddy.

There's still some kind of issue west of Binghamton, unless Region 9 snuck in some upgrades in the Vestal/Johnson City area.  I'm not aware of any upgrades on that stretch of NY 17, however.
http://nysroads.com/images/i86-remaining.jpg

[cl94]

I'm sure Interstate 86 will be signposted from Exit 60 to Interstate 81. I doubt Interstate 86 will be signposted east of Exit 79 until they upgrade the whole roadway to Interstate Standards, and eliminate the at-grade intersections in Hale Eddy.

There's still some kind of issue west of Binghamton, unless Region 9 snuck in some upgrades in the Vestal/Johnson City area.  I'm not aware of any upgrades on that stretch of NY 17, however.
http://nysroads.com/images/i86-remaining.jpg

Some of that was incorporated as part of the Prospect Mountain project. 72 was blown up and rebuilt, while 71's bad decel lane was lengthened. My GUESS is that it's the deceleration lanes at Exits 68 and 69 that are the problem.

[SGwithADD]

I'm sure Interstate 86 will be signposted from Exit 60 to Interstate 81. I doubt Interstate 86 will be signposted east of Exit 79 until they upgrade the whole roadway to Interstate Standards, and eliminate the at-grade intersections in Hale Eddy.

There's still some kind of issue west of Binghamton, unless Region 9 snuck in some upgrades in the Vestal/Johnson City area.  I'm not aware of any upgrades on that stretch of NY 17, however.
http://nysroads.com/images/i86-remaining.jpg

Some of that was incorporated as part of the Prospect Mountain project. 72 was blown up and rebuilt, while 71's bad decel lane was lengthened. My GUESS is that it's the deceleration lanes at Exits 68 and 69 that are the problem.

My understanding is that Exit 68 has been the real problem. I remember reading years ago that the exit wasn't going to be grandfathered in for completion, and it has a few problems: partial exit, very short decel lane, and an accel lane that quickly turns into an exit lane for Exit 67N.  There had been some rumblings in the town about replacing the exit with a new interchange along with a bridge between Vestal and Endwell (connecting Sycamore Rd. and Hooper Rd. in one configuration), but those plans have been sidelined for at least a decade now.