I had been set to have the 2020 edition of the 'Ohio Roadmeet' in Findlay for the I-75/US68 interchange reconstruction.
However, after "getting lost" in Downtown Cincy, earlier in the week, I ended up seeing a lot of old signage on the downtown side streets (long as one stays away from I-75 & I-71)
So based on an hour of looking for US 27 & US 22/Oh 3, I'm willing to trade Findlay in for Cincinnati for next year's Ohio based roadmeet.
(Before I start discussing any "themes"...) Tim Brown, if you're reading this, you have have first dibs at hosting this.
Otherwise, date, time, location, are all TBD as of now.
I'm game, but only if poo.
Put me down for a maybe.
Currently, I am unable to commit myself to this meet (as long as the coronavirus does NOT affect a cousin's wedding). OTOH, I still have a few options for other meets this year (Sauk Valley via O'Hare, depending on when the ATS is up and running again–did not like having to use the shuttle bus in the pouring rain and wind and whatnot at night and having to consistently wait for the shuttle bus–in addition to Kansas City which will hinge on forthcoming details by a fellow roadgeek on here and on FB). Stay tuned for further updates, especially as the coronavirus makes planning for meets this year particularly difficult.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 02, 2019, 11:00:57 PM
I had been set to have the 2020 edition of the 'Ohio Roadmeet' in Findlay for the I-75/US68 interchange reconstruction.
However, after "getting lost" in Downtown Cincy, earlier in the week, I ended up seeing a lot of old signage on the downtown side streets (long as one stays away from I-75 & I-71)
So based on an hour of looking for US 27 & US 22/Oh 3, I'm willing to trade Findlay in for Cincinnati for next year's Ohio based roadmeet.
Sandor... when you say you're "willing" to trade Findlay in for Cincinnati, do you mean it's a done deal that the 2020 Ohio meet will not be in Findlay? I'm just wondering if you're still considering Findlay as a possibility for 2020.
I'm not sure how I'd go about hosting this.
I actually don't own a car, so that makes it a little bit of a challenge.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 04, 2019, 11:54:50 AM
I'm not sure how I'd go about hosting this.
I actually don't own a car, so that makes it a little bit of a challenge.
That hasn't stopped people from hosting in the past.
I'd certainly be interested in a Cincy meet. Gives me a chance to see more of Kentucky and possibly finish WV counties.
I could easily do an "up and back" for a Cincy meet, but I overslept and missed the last one. Plus, Portsmouth is closer than Cincy to me, and I didn't make that one.
There will probably be a crapload of construction still underway on the Kentucky side of the river, but most of that will be pavement rehab.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 04, 2019, 11:54:50 AM
I'm not sure how I'd go about hosting this.
I actually don't own a car, so that makes it a little bit of a challenge.
1) locate a restaurant for lunch (Northern Ky or Cincy, doesn't matter). Ask your friends, ask your family, look around online.
2) Google Maps or Google Earth to scout ahead. Mind you, I'm looking to focus on signage.
3) Plot a route and type up an itinerary.
4) Make plans to show up and direct us where to go (even if we don't listen)
1) locate a restaurant
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 03, 2019, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 02, 2019, 11:00:57 PM
I had been set to have the 2020 edition of the 'Ohio Roadmeet' in Findlay for the I-75/US68 interchange reconstruction.
However, after "getting lost" in Downtown Cincy, earlier in the week, I ended up seeing a lot of old signage on the downtown side streets (long as one stays away from I-75 & I-71)
So based on an hour of looking for US 27 & US 22/Oh 3, I'm willing to trade Findlay in for Cincinnati for next year's Ohio based roadmeet.
Sandor... when you say you're "willing" to trade Findlay in for Cincinnati, do you mean it's a done deal that the 2020 Ohio meet will not be in Findlay? I'm just wondering if you're still considering Findlay as a possibility for 2020.
I'd say its 75-25 (route pun withstanding), we're going with Cincy (based on response so far).
I've been thinking about this today, and I think I can do this. I'm thinking sometime in the middle of next year, but probably not winter.
I would be up for this and if Steph can get off on Friday so would she, just have to see how my toy show schedule plays out next year
I propose we meet at 11 AM (official local time) at Buckhead Mountain Grill in Bellevue (but I don't know what date yet). This restaurant worked out well at the 2013 meet. I really don't eat out very much, so I don't know what other restaurants would be good for this. Maybe someone has a better idea.
As for the date, June might be best, but other months might be workable.
I'm warning everyone in advance to be prepared for bad weather. March means rain, cold, or snow. July means rain or heat. June means rain. May means rain. April means rain - or snow. August means rain. So don't be in the least bit surprised if we're stomping around in puddles at each stop. Hopefully you all have galoshes, because I'm counting on rain.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 05, 2019, 08:58:24 PM
I propose we meet at 11 AM (official local time) at Buckhead Mountain Grill in Bellevue (but I don't know what date yet). This restaurant worked out well at the 2013 meet. I really don't eat out very much, so I don't know what other restaurants would be good for this. Maybe someone has a better idea.
As for the date, June might be best, but other months might be workable.
I'm warning everyone in advance to be prepared for bad weather. March means rain, cold, or snow. July means rain or heat. June means rain. May means rain. April means rain - or snow. August means rain. So don't be in the least bit surprised if we're stomping around in puddles at each stop. Hopefully you all have galoshes, because I'm counting on rain.
Except for a certain person in Florida, weather has yet to stop a (legit) roadmeet. See Memphis earlier this year, Penn Turnpike last fall, Akron-Canton back in 2010, and many others I can't think of at the moment.
My only request, don't schedule for June 13-14 & 20-21. I have music festivals I attend on those weekends.
If all the weekends in June are used up, May might be a good option. But Memorial Day weekend might not be good, because folks might have other plans. Also, Taste of Cincinnati takes up a few blocks of downtown each Memorial Day weekend, but it's not that big of a deal.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 05, 2019, 11:16:16 PM
If all the weekends in June are used up, May might be a good option. But Memorial Day weekend might not be good, because folks might have other plans. Also, Taste of Cincinnati takes up a few blocks of downtown each Memorial Day weekend, but it's not that big of a deal.
I might be more likely to appear for Taste of.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 05, 2019, 08:58:24 PM
I propose we meet at 11 AM (official local time) at Buckhead Mountain Grill in Bellevue (but I don't know what date yet).
I think that's where one of Pete Jenior's meets from years ago was held as well. Next door to Joe's Crab Shack and the Comfort Suites, right?
Quote from: hbelkins on August 06, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
I think that's where one of Pete Jenior's meets from years ago was held as well. Next door to Joe's Crab Shack and the Comfort Suites, right?
Yes, that was where he held his secret meets.
Before I had gotten deathly sick last October, I had planned on trying to reprise my 2013 meet in some form or fashion this year or next (traveling up from OKC). However once I got sick, the idea went on hold as I was unsure a) when I would be allowed to travel longer distances solo and b) just how much I'd be able to scout ahead when I could finally leave OK on my own.
All that being said, I am more than willing to let others take the lead on hosting if it makes a meet happen in Cincinnati. A lot has changed since 2013 (and continues to change) and not just signage.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 05, 2019, 11:16:16 PM
If all the weekends in June are used up, May might be a good option. But Memorial Day weekend might not be good, because folks might have other plans. Also, Taste of Cincinnati takes up a few blocks of downtown each Memorial Day weekend, but it's not that big of a deal.
There are two schools of thought as to choosing a date for an event:
1) Set the date, let everyone else work around it.
2) Wait till the dust settles and pick from the leftovers.
Is June 6 good? What about May 30?
I know that's a long way off, but there'll be a lot of daylight then.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 06, 2019, 10:09:24 PM
Is June 6 good? What about May 30?
I know that's a long way off, but there'll be a lot of daylight then.
We'll force A.J's hand. Lets go with May 30
(May 30th is one of the date options for his city meet)
May 30 is good, but I'll wait until we can get more people to agree.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 06, 2019, 10:54:48 PM
May 30 is good, but I'll wait until we can get more people to agree.
It's the day after Shavuot, but maybe I can still make it. Since I have no idea what that means.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 06, 2019, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 05, 2019, 11:16:16 PM
If all the weekends in June are used up, May might be a good option. But Memorial Day weekend might not be good, because folks might have other plans. Also, Taste of Cincinnati takes up a few blocks of downtown each Memorial Day weekend, but it's not that big of a deal.
There are two schools of thought as to choosing a date for an event:
1) Set the date, let everyone else work around it.
2) Wait till the dust settles and pick from the leftovers.
There's also a third school of thought that several of us use: Create a poll allowing folks to vote on a date and then go with the majority rule. I personally like that option a lot.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 06, 2019, 10:53:03 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 06, 2019, 10:09:24 PM
Is June 6 good? What about May 30?
I know that's a long way off, but there'll be a lot of daylight then.
We'll force A.J's hand. Lets go with May 30
(May 30th is one of the date options for his city meet)
Before I even saw this comment, I was actually thinking that, due to the number of meets that are tentatively being planned for the April-May-June time frame next year (a couple of which weren't announced until after I made the announcement and created my date poll for the Outer Banks meet), perhaps it's not appropriate for me to leave my poll open until October 1. The last I checked, May 30 was in second place with several votes behind April 25. I'll mention in that thread that I'm considering changing my mind about leaving the poll open so long... in light of these new announcements. Spring seems to be quite a popular time of year for road meets.
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 07, 2019, 06:59:10 AM
Before I even saw this comment, I was actually thinking that, due to the number of meets that are tentatively being planned for the April-May-June time frame next year (a couple of which weren't announced until after I made the announcement and created my date poll for the Outer Banks meet), perhaps it's not appropriate for me to leave my poll open until October 1. The last I checked, May 30 was in second place with several votes behind April 25. I'll mention in that thread that I'm considering changing my mind about leaving the poll open so long... in light of these new announcements. Spring seems to be quite a popular time of year for road meets.
April in North Carolina is probably warmer than May in Cincinnati.
Since I took charge of the Cincinnati meet, I don't want to spoil anyone's plans if they insisted on having a meet on one of the days I proposed for Cincinnati. I'm sort of flexible about Cincinnati. I think daylight and good weather are pluses, but I just don't want to wait too long. If we wait until late summer, that's a whole year from now.
I know rain is something we can't predict at all this far in advance.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 07, 2019, 10:15:08 AM
Since I took charge of the Cincinnati meet, I don't want to spoil anyone's plans if they insisted on having a meet on one of the days I proposed for Cincinnati.
No worries, Tim. May 30 is several votes behind the leading date (April 25) in my poll for the Outer Banks meet. It's highly unlikely that I'll pick May 30 as the date for Outer Banks. I'm realizing that keeping a date poll open for a long time may not be appropriate... especially in such a popular time frame for hosting road meets. I want to be fair to other people who are planning meets as well.
Polls are nice, but in the end, the host needs to go with the date that works best for him or her. I did a poll for my last Pikeville meet, and two of the dates were really close in the number of votes. In the end, I went with the date that was most convenient for me. That made it possible for some people to attend, but shut some others out from attending, since several found that of the two leading dates, one worked and one didn't.
Sadly, I'm pretty sure the US 50 cutouts in Mariemont are both gone. The westbound one definitely is. Also, the state name I-75 shields in Lockland are gone too. So is the "JUNCTION US 27-52" sign northeast of downtown.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 07, 2019, 03:26:40 PM
Polls are nice, but in the end, the host needs to go with the date that works best for him or her.
Well of course... that goes without saying. I can't imagine that the host will include dates in the poll that won't work for him or her. Why wouldn't the host want to solicit input from others on the date if multiple dates work equally for him or her? It can help him or her to make the best decision possible on when the meet should happen. For my "city meets", I can't imagine NOT creating a poll because I'm purposely hosting these gatherings in places I'm not familiar with. If it weren't for my Outer Banks date poll, I could have, in theory, picked a really bad date for that meet... not thinking about tourist season and aspects of the area that I'm not familiar with.
I can imagine a host choosing not to do this if they know they have an otherwise busy schedule around that time of year and one, and only one, date will work for them. But if multiple dates will work, why not ask others for input as a way of possibly maximizing the number of attendees who can come? As I'm thinking this through though, I'm wondering if perhaps the hosts who don't create date polls are not intentionally trying to maximize the number of attendees... or are subconsciously trying to minimize that number?
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 07, 2019, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 07, 2019, 03:26:40 PM
Polls are nice, but in the end, the host needs to go with the date that works best for him or her.
Well of course... that goes without saying. I can't imagine that the host will include dates in the poll that won't work for him or her. Why wouldn't the host want to solicit input from others on the date if multiple dates work equally for him or her? It can help him or her to make the best decision possible on when the meet should happen. For my "city meets", I can't imagine NOT creating a poll because I'm purposely hosting these gatherings in places I'm not familiar with. If it weren't for my Outer Banks date poll, I could have, in theory, picked a really bad date for that meet... not thinking about tourist season and aspects of the area that I'm not familiar with.
I can imagine a host choosing not to do this if they know they have an otherwise busy schedule around that time of year and one, and only one, date will work for them. But if multiple dates will work, why not ask others for input as a way of possibly maximizing the number of attendees who can come? As I'm thinking this through though, I'm wondering if perhaps the hosts who don't create date polls are not intentionally trying to maximize the number of attendees... or are subconsciously trying to minimize that number?
I think you're overthinking. :-D
They probably only have a single date they can do the meet, so they just go ahead and set it for that date and whomever can make it, makes it.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 08, 2019, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 07, 2019, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 07, 2019, 03:26:40 PM
Polls are nice, but in the end, the host needs to go with the date that works best for him or her.
Well of course... that goes without saying. I can't imagine that the host will include dates in the poll that won't work for him or her. Why wouldn't the host want to solicit input from others on the date if multiple dates work equally for him or her? It can help him or her to make the best decision possible on when the meet should happen. For my "city meets", I can't imagine NOT creating a poll because I'm purposely hosting these gatherings in places I'm not familiar with. If it weren't for my Outer Banks date poll, I could have, in theory, picked a really bad date for that meet... not thinking about tourist season and aspects of the area that I'm not familiar with.
I can imagine a host choosing not to do this if they know they have an otherwise busy schedule around that time of year and one, and only one, date will work for them. But if multiple dates will work, why not ask others for input as a way of possibly maximizing the number of attendees who can come? As I'm thinking this through though, I'm wondering if perhaps the hosts who don't create date polls are not intentionally trying to maximize the number of attendees... or are subconsciously trying to minimize that number?
I think you're overthinking. :-D
Yeah probably. I have a tendency of doing that sometimes. LOL
Quote from: hbelkins on August 08, 2019, 07:58:24 PM
They probably only have a single date they can do the meet, so they just go ahead and set it for that date and whomever can make it, makes it.
Makes sense. But I still think that, if multiple dates work for the host, why not create a poll and solicit feedback on the date?
One concern is that people might play games with the polls.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 08, 2019, 10:22:32 PM
One concern is that people might play games with the polls.
What kinds of games?
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 09, 2019, 04:57:58 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 08, 2019, 10:22:32 PM
One concern is that people might play games with the polls.
What kinds of games?
People might vote for weird options just to sabotage the poll.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 09, 2019, 09:16:47 AM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 09, 2019, 04:57:58 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 08, 2019, 10:22:32 PM
One concern is that people might play games with the polls.
What kinds of games?
People might vote for weird options just to sabotage the poll.
Only if you decide to put said weird options in the poll in the first place. You can control the poll by only presenting the options you want.
Quote from: Brandon on August 09, 2019, 09:19:12 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 09, 2019, 09:16:47 AM
Quote from: A.J. Bertin on August 09, 2019, 04:57:58 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 08, 2019, 10:22:32 PM
One concern is that people might play games with the polls.
What kinds of games?
People might vote for weird options just to sabotage the poll.
Only if you decide to put said weird options in the poll in the first place. You can control the poll by only presenting the options you want.
Brandon's exactly right.
I haven't bothered with using polls for the previous 3 meets I hosted.
May 30 works for me
Responding to this thread so I can get updates on it. I have no idea what my schedule will look like in May but if I am free I'm interested in attending.
Actually, wouldn't this be the fourth Cincy meet? Pete Jenior hosted two (one at Buckhead and one at Rookwood Pottery) and Jeremy Moses hosted one.
Quote from: bandit957 on August 05, 2019, 05:24:28 PM
I've been thinking about this today, and I think I can do this. I'm thinking sometime in the middle of next year, but probably not winter.
Sorry to be late to the game as I have been overseas for the last two weeks, but I'll be glad to assist in any way you need.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 14, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Actually, wouldn't this be the fourth Cincy meet? Pete Jenior hosted two (one at Buckhead and one at Rookwood Pottery) and Jeremy Moses hosted one.
This is the second. I don't count the 2 earlier ones that were held at a "secret" location because the Sesame Street Krew was being a bunch of crybabies.
Quote from: hbelkins on August 14, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
Actually, wouldn't this be the fourth Cincy meet? Pete Jenior hosted two (one at Buckhead and one at Rookwood Pottery) and Jeremy Moses hosted one.
I'd say this one coming would be the "Third Cincy Roadmeet." Pete's second meet was more of a mini-meet (only attendees were Pete, you, me, and Brian Reynolds) focusing on the Cincy Sign museum.
It's official! The date for the Cincinnati roadmeet is set for Saturday, May 30, 2020! Be there or be square!
A Facebook page for this meet looms.
Here's the Facebook page for this roadmeet to end all roadmeets!
https://www.facebook.com/events/501207353978526
Quote from: bandit957 on August 29, 2019, 09:02:15 PM
Here's the Facebook page for this roadmeet to end all roadmeets!
https://www.facebook.com/events/501207353978526
Couldn't access the page. "Sorry, this content isn't available now."
Quote from: hbelkins on August 30, 2019, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on August 29, 2019, 09:02:15 PM
Here's the Facebook page for this roadmeet to end all roadmeets!
https://www.facebook.com/events/501207353978526
Couldn't access the page. "Sorry, this content isn't available now."
I think it's fixed now.
This made me log in to my Facebook account for the first time in a few years. I Can't go for a number of reasons.
I'm going. This is my excuse to visit my friend there.
I should be able to go to this one if nothing happens.
Quote from: codyg1985 on October 30, 2019, 10:14:07 AM
I should be able to go to this one if nothing happens.
If nothing happens it would make for a rather dull meet.
I will only attend this meet if poo.
Quote from: cl94 on October 30, 2019, 05:31:29 PM
I will only attend this meet if poo.
If the past holds, the host may take note on bunker blasts.
Quote from: Brandon on October 30, 2019, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 30, 2019, 05:31:29 PM
I will only attend this meet if poo.
If the past holds, the host may take note on bunker blasts.
Tasties?
I actually had a dream about this roadmeet a few nights ago. I dreamed we were all looking over a creek that flowed through a channel, and that we were running slightly behind schedule.
May 30 is a possibility for me to make the trek back to the hometown. Depends on how the severe weather season goes out here in OKC. I would be a "maybe" at this time.
Glad someone stepped up on this. As noted, I have been in and out (and in and out) of the hospital big time in 2019, but am confident my health will be as near to 100% as it can be by that date.
Also, for those scouting, the Mt Zion Road and Richwood Road interchanges should be in the active construction process by then along with construction at the Graves Road/I-275 interchange.
Sorry for the bump, but as of right now, I'm planning on attending.
Quote from: ce929wax on February 22, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Sorry for the bump, but as of right now, I'm planning on attending.
I wouldn't think that an apology is necessary. :)
I'm worried that the Cincinnati meet will be canceled for some reason I have absolutely no control over, such as the coronavirus pandemic. Viruses spread like wildfire in Cincinnati, for some reason. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the whole city is in quarantine when we're supposed to have the roadmeet.
Either that, or there will be some sort of social unrest that causes public officials to overreact against protesters and place the whole city under lockdown. I remember this happening once in 2001, but just not during a roadmeet.
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 10:54:37 AMI'm worried that the Cincinnati meet will be canceled for some reason I have absolutely no control over, such as the coronavirus pandemic.
Granted, it's your meet & you certainly can do what you want with it; but based on your above-post, are you cancelling the meet outright or are you saying that you
might have to cancel it based on a big
what if?
May 30 is some 3 months away and the coronavirus
epidemic (BTW) may very well be either muted/contained and/or yesterday's news by then. IMHO, your cancellation based on something that may not be fully known nor come to fruition by the meet date is an overreaction.
From what I understand, the coronavirus (similar to the 2003 SARS epidemic) is largely isolated to those traveling to/from overseas. It's reasonable guess that the
majority of attendees to your meet are not coming from overseas. Those within reasonable proximity of Cincinnati and have more available time are more likely to be driving to the meet location rather than flying.
My 2-cents & food for thought
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 24, 2020, 02:13:57 PMGranted, it's your meet & you certainly can do what you want with it; but based on your above-post, are you cancelling the meet outright or are you saying that you might have to cancel it based on a big what if?
I'm not canceling it, but someone else might, and I wouldn't be able to do a thing to stop them.
Events have been canceled for things like this before.
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 02:22:44 PMI'm not canceling it, but someone else might, and I wouldn't be able to do a thing to stop them.
Use of third person for the below is intentional:
If one is hosting a meet;
that individual is the one that makes the decision whether to actually hold/host it or not. If by
someone else, you mean that your driver may have to cancel due to circumstances and you can't find a substitute to take their place; that's another matter.
I've had heard of past meets going on as scheduled even when the meet host can't attend due to illness or family situation. The host was able to communicate (sometimes off-line) to another attendee to see if they can substitute hosting the meet.
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 02:22:44 PMEvents have been canceled for things like this before.
Maybe one of the more frequent meet attendees/hosts can answer this question: have prior meets been cancelled due to sudden (last minute) events in the immediate area?
Bottom line: Could certain spur-of-the moment events cause a cancellation of a meet or change of meet venue? Absolutely; but it's (IMHO) pointless & flat-out paranoid to base planning a whole meet around such. One could literally go crazy thinking of such.
If such is an individual's concern; then it would be best for said-individual not to volunteer to host a meet.
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 24, 2020, 03:51:37 PM
If one is hosting a meet; that individual is the one that makes the decision whether to actually hold/host it or not. If by someone else, you mean that your driver may have to cancel due to circumstances and you can't find a substitute to take their place; that's another matter.
By "someone else", I mean "the government." I don't think there's anything else that could possibly cause it to be canceled.
Even if I died, the meet wouldn't be canceled just for that.
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 03:54:59 PMBy "someone else", I mean "the government." I don't think there's anything else that could possibly cause it to be canceled.
And again, I am going to say that you are overreacting.
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 24, 2020, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 02:22:44 PMI'm not canceling it, but someone else might, and I wouldn't be able to do a thing to stop them.
Use of third person for the below is intentional:
If one is hosting a meet; that individual is the one that makes the decision whether to actually hold/host it or not. If by someone else, you mean that your driver may have to cancel due to circumstances and you can't find a substitute to take their place; that's another matter.
I've had heard of past meets going on as scheduled even when the meet host can't attend due to illness or family situation. The host was able to communicate (sometimes off-line) to another attendee to see if they can substitute hosting the meet.
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 02:22:44 PMEvents have been canceled for things like this before.
Maybe one of the more frequent meet attendees/hosts can answer this question: have prior meets been cancelled due to sudden (last minute) events in the immediate area?
Bottom line: Could certain spur-of-the moment events cause a cancellation of a meet or change of meet venue? Absolutely; but it's (IMHO) pointless & flat-out paranoid to base planning a whole meet around such. One could literally go crazy thinking of such.
If such is an individual's concern; then it would be best for said-individual not to volunteer to host a meet.
Everyone calm down. The meet is happening barring an "act of God" which is always true.
I'll ask around and see if Toledo will be open that day.
Quote from: Alps on February 24, 2020, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 24, 2020, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 02:22:44 PMI'm not canceling it, but someone else might, and I wouldn't be able to do a thing to stop them.
Use of third person for the below is intentional:
If one is hosting a meet; that individual is the one that makes the decision whether to actually hold/host it or not. If by someone else, you mean that your driver may have to cancel due to circumstances and you can't find a substitute to take their place; that's another matter.
I've had heard of past meets going on as scheduled even when the meet host can't attend due to illness or family situation. The host was able to communicate (sometimes off-line) to another attendee to see if they can substitute hosting the meet.
Quote from: bandit957 on February 24, 2020, 02:22:44 PMEvents have been canceled for things like this before.
Maybe one of the more frequent meet attendees/hosts can answer this question: have prior meets been cancelled due to sudden (last minute) events in the immediate area?
Bottom line: Could certain spur-of-the moment events cause a cancellation of a meet or change of meet venue? Absolutely; but it's (IMHO) pointless & flat-out paranoid to base planning a whole meet around such. One could literally go crazy thinking of such.
If such is an individual's concern; then it would be best for said-individual not to volunteer to host a meet.
Everyone calm down. The meet is happening barring an "act of God" which is always true.
Agreed, my plan now if Steph is coming (and the chance is looking better) we live Friday after work and stay in Elizabethtown, KY then drive up to the meet site early the next morning and may stay in to Sunday. We are looking forward to this, I HIGHLY doubt this will get cancelled due to something government related.
Heard from multiple sources yesterday that on an annual basis, the flu kills more people in the US than the coronavirus has killed globally so far. While individuals may wish to limit or avoid travel, I cannot foresee any circumstance in which the government would limit or prohibit private gatherings of individuals in response to this. A public event like a parade or a ballgame -- or even the Olympics, which is under discussion -- then yes, it's possible. A private assembly? Not gonna happen.
Watching people press the panic button about this is sad and funny at the same time. I don't remember similar alarm over bird flu, swine flu, or SARS.
It's only 3 months away, folks! Woohoo!
The main thing I need to do before then is scout out the route again. I think I have a route planned, but I can still modify it a little bit.
After careful consideration, it is with a heavy heart that I've discovered I can livestream on Facebook! It's quick, it's easy, it's the law!
I can't promise a livestream from this meet, but it might be feasible. But only if poo. I wanted to do it on YouTube, but the YouTube crybabies now require 1,000 subscribers.
Come May 30, you might be able to go on my Facebook page and watch the amazingness unfold live and in color! It all depends on how well my smartphone works, how many people I need to worry about at the meet, and other factors. But if I do stream it, point your pooper here...
https://www.facebook.com/bandit41073
Quote from: bandit957 on March 22, 2020, 03:46:19 PM
After careful consideration, it is with a heavy heart that I've discovered I can livestream on Facebook! It's quick, it's easy, it's the law!
I can't promise a livestream from this meet, but it might be feasible. But only if poo. I wanted to do it on YouTube, but the YouTube crybabies now require 1,000 subscribers.
Come May 30, you might be able to go on my Facebook page and watch the amazingness unfold live and in color! It all depends on how well my smartphone works, how many people I need to worry about at the meet, and other factors. But if I do stream it, point your pooper here...
https://www.facebook.com/bandit41073
Is that the function that allows for individuals to host what FB calls a "watch party?"
I've livestreamed work functions before on my work page, but never personally.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 23, 2020, 12:18:17 PM
Is that the function that allows for individuals to host what FB calls a "watch party?"
I don't think it's the same thing, but it might be. All people really need to do is go on my Facebook page and watch it.
Now is a good time as any for Timmy to tell us what is going on with this year's edition of the Cincy Road meet. :hmmm:
1) - Where are we meeting (assuming Buckhead will still be unavailable for us to eat at)
1a)- Bring your own food? Some other form of lunch gathering?
2) - Will we see the tour route before we arrive?
2a) - Will there be a google map of said route for GPS purposes
3) Will we be consolidating into fewer & larger vehicles, or bring your own vehicle and stay in your own vehicle (thus more of a parade)?
That's about it for what Tim (or anyone else hosting a meet) can control.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 07, 2020, 12:16:19 PM
Now is a good time as any for Timmy to tell us what is going on with this year's edition of the Cincy Road meet. :hmmm:
It's on. The main change is that I'm changing it to a picnic at Bellevue Beach Park.
I'll try to post more details in a few minutes.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 07, 2020, 12:16:19 PM
Now is a good time as any for Timmy to tell us what is going on with this year's edition of the Cincy Road meet. :hmmm:
1) - Where are we meeting (assuming Buckhead will still be unavailable for us to eat at)
1a)- Bring your own food? Some other form of lunch gathering?
2) - Will we see the tour route before we arrive?
2a) - Will there be a google map of said route for GPS purposes
3) Will we be consolidating into fewer & larger vehicles, or bring your own vehicle and stay in your own vehicle (thus more of a parade)?
1) Bellevue Beach Park.
1a) This is a picnic, so people should bring a good picnic lunch for theirselves to enjoy.
2) I am planning on revealing this soon.
2a) There should be.
3) We'll probably be able to consolidate.
Kentucky's governor is dragging his feet on reopening restaurants, and there seems to be no hope of having them opened back up by the end of this month. What's Ohio doing? Are they opening back up? If so, you might want to consider a change of venue for lunch.
I presume this is "bring your own lunch" or brown-bagging it, and not a shareable potluck.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 07, 2020, 01:55:40 PM
Kentucky's governor is dragging his feet on reopening restaurants, and there seems to be no hope of having them opened back up by the end of this month. What's Ohio doing? Are they opening back up? If so, you might want to consider a change of venue for lunch.
Ohio just announced an hour ago that restaurants will be allowed to open for indoor seating on May 21. I can't imagine they'll be allowed to be at full capacity though. It'll probably be something with a maximum capacity of 4 customers or something.
QuoteI presume this is "bring your own lunch" or brown-bagging it, and not a shareable potluck.
Yes, this is something people should bring their own lunch for, such as a good sandwich, nice salad, or big soda. They should bring extra in case of spillage.
Kentucky just announced an opening on May 22, with 33 percent capacity indoors, plus outdoor seating. So you could probably do Buckhead if you wanted to. Or next door at Joe's Crab Shack, which I seem to remember having outdoor seating. I also thought Buckhead had outdoor seating, but cannot remember for certain.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 07, 2020, 05:29:33 PM
Kentucky just announced an opening on May 22, with 33 percent capacity indoors, plus outdoor seating. So you could probably do Buckhead if you wanted to. Or next door at Joe's Crab Shack, which I seem to remember having outdoor seating. I also thought Buckhead had outdoor seating, but cannot remember for certain.
Buckhead actually does have outdoor seating. I'm actually going to look into this.
The region is reopening, and things are almost completely back to normal here - at least in the great outdoors! Everyone is out and about just like a normal spring! That means the Cincinnati roadmeet is going forward as scheduled!
But the great indoors are the only thing not back to normal, so I'm making an important change to this meet. Restaurants will be allowed to reopen, but most aren't, so I'm changing this to a picnic at Bellevue Beach Park! I think this will work out better. Who doesn't love a good picnic?
Get outdoors and get some exercise and fresh air! Have a picnic, and look at some ROADS!!!
As this is a picnic, people will need to bring their own lunch. Sandwiches, salads, sodas, anything! You should also bring extra in case of spillage or wastage.
Also, bring a blanket or a towel! The park has picnic tables, but not gobs and gobs of them. Some of you might want to sit on a blanket or towel instead!
Last but not least, bring a raincoat. This is Cincinnati in May.
This is a link to a map of what I intend to be part 1 of the meet route. There's also a part 2, but it's a low priority, and we might not get to it.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/drive?state=%7B%22ids%22%3A%5B%2213SRmrbNUtUI_o9nxo_12NSfeMVVCtuSP%22%5D%2C%22action%22%3A%22open%22%2C%22userId%22%3A%22106998823544196072703%22%7D&usp=sharing
Quote from: bandit957 on May 08, 2020, 09:31:36 PM
This is a link to a map of what I intend to be part 1 of the meet route. There's also a part 2, but it's a low priority, and we might not get to it.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/drive?state=%7B%22ids%22%3A%5B%2213SRmrbNUtUI_o9nxo_12NSfeMVVCtuSP%22%5D%2C%22action%22%3A%22open%22%2C%22userId%22%3A%22106998823544196072703%22%7D&usp=sharing
I see abandoned roads and old viaducts.
Quote from: Alps on May 09, 2020, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on May 08, 2020, 09:31:36 PM
This is a link to a map of what I intend to be part 1 of the meet route. There's also a part 2, but it's a low priority, and we might not get to it.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/drive?state=%7B%22ids%22%3A%5B%2213SRmrbNUtUI_o9nxo_12NSfeMVVCtuSP%22%5D%2C%22action%22%3A%22open%22%2C%22userId%22%3A%22106998823544196072703%22%7D&usp=sharing
I see abandoned roads and old viaducts.
There's a couple viaducty things, and maybe some road features that aren't used much. I don't know if they're completely abandoned.
Here's a link to part 2 of the tentative meet route. As I said earlier, this is a very low priority, so we might just not have time for it.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/drive?state=%7B%22ids%22%3A%5B%221Fr8tn6djEsEueRlXcrbnMzsQ0eC1kYVM%22%5D%2C%22action%22%3A%22open%22%2C%22userId%22%3A%22106998823544196072703%22%7D&usp=sharing
With the disclaimer that "Google Maps Suck" (especially when plotting out tours), I have two questions for you Tim.
1) One can not turn directly from the Western Hills Viaduct onto Spring Grove Ave. You will need to adjust your map accordingly.
2) What are you doing, with the tour, in Queensgate? It appears (to me) there are multiple turnarounds and loops that could be consolidated. Am I missing something here?
The lower deck of the Western Hills Viaduct actually does go onto Spring Grove Avenue.
The itinerary will include some more details on Queensgate.
I'm not exactly sure how I'd format the itinerary. I may just list all the waypoints and stops, and describe what's there and the parking situation. I probably won't have to list every turn.
Also, a few days before the meet, I plan to release the embargoed road photos. I kept them secret because I'm afraid of highway departments destroying what's there before the meet.
Is there an Official Cincinnati-style Chili for this meet? It wouldn't be cool if someone showed up with Skyline, and Gold Star was the official chili of the meet, or vice versa.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 14, 2020, 02:22:44 PM
Is there an Official Cincinnati-style Chili for this meet? It wouldn't be cool if someone showed up with Skyline, and Gold Star was the official chili of the meet, or vice versa.
It doesn't have an official chili. In my day, when I lived in Highland Heights, we had Empress Chili.
Unfortunately, most of PA is closed through June 4, meaning I wouldn't be able to get a hotel to get toward the meet and still see what I want to see. It's just not practical to attend.
Quote from: Alps on May 18, 2020, 01:22:50 AM
Unfortunately, most of PA is closed through June 4, meaning I wouldn't be able to get a hotel to get toward the meet and still see what I want to see. It's just not practical to attend.
Stay-at-home orders are being lifted in the western two-thirds of Pennsylvania. Apparently, hotels never closed.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: Alps on May 18, 2020, 01:22:50 AM
Unfortunately, most of PA is closed through June 4, meaning I wouldn't be able to get a hotel to get toward the meet and still see what I want to see. It's just not practical to attend.
Stay-at-home orders are being lifted in the western two-thirds of Pennsylvania. Apparently, hotels never closed.
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ogden_images/www.lockhaven.com/images/2020/05/01171911/reopening-840x840.jpg)
I need to get through red counties. I don't feel comfortable with that.
I'm pretty sure they extended the yellow phase throughout southwestern Pennsylvania. They may actually open up eastern Pennsylvania very soon, but of course that's no guarantee.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
I'm pretty sure they extended the yellow phase throughout southwestern Pennsylvania. They may actually open up eastern Pennsylvania very soon, but of course that's no guarantee.
No, they did not and will not until June 4. Tim... if you can move your roadmeet by even ONE WEEKEND I would feel more comfortable attending. The later you can push this the better.
Quote from: Alps on May 18, 2020, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
I'm pretty sure they extended the yellow phase throughout southwestern Pennsylvania. They may actually open up eastern Pennsylvania very soon, but of course that's no guarantee.
No, they did not and will not until June 4. Tim... if you can move your roadmeet by even ONE WEEKEND I would feel more comfortable attending. The later you can push this the better.
A couple other people have already reserved nonrefundable hotels.
And the yellow phase is most certainly extended throughout southwestern PA:
https://www.wfmz.com/health/coronavirus/13-more-pa-counties-move-to-yellow-phase-wolf-expected-to-announce-more-friday/article_257a79de-9699-11ea-9ca9-679e6d04d8fb.html
Maybe if everyone - and I mean EVERYONE - agrees to reschedule it for June 6, I might CONSIDER it. But it has to be UNANIMOUS.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 12:10:24 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 18, 2020, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
I'm pretty sure they extended the yellow phase throughout southwestern Pennsylvania. They may actually open up eastern Pennsylvania very soon, but of course that's no guarantee.
No, they did not and will not until June 4. Tim... if you can move your roadmeet by even ONE WEEKEND I would feel more comfortable attending. The later you can push this the better.
A couple other people have already reserved nonrefundable hotels.
And the yellow phase is most certainly extended throughout southwestern PA:
https://www.wfmz.com/health/coronavirus/13-more-pa-counties-move-to-yellow-phase-wolf-expected-to-announce-more-friday/article_257a79de-9699-11ea-9ca9-679e6d04d8fb.html
Maybe if everyone - and I mean EVERYONE - agrees to reschedule it for June 6, I might CONSIDER it. But it has to be UNANIMOUS.
Thanks, that's helpful. I'll have to see what things are like on the 28th to determine if I can possibly attend.
Quote from: Alps on May 18, 2020, 12:50:43 PM
Thanks, that's helpful. I'll have to see what things are like on the 28th to determine if I can possibly attend.
I'll ask, but it might be futile.
It has to be unanimous though.
I've posted a poll on the Facebook page asking whether to delay this meet for a week:
https://www.facebook.com/events/501207353978526
But it has to be UNANIMOUS, so I doubt that'll happen.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
Quote from: Alps on May 18, 2020, 12:50:43 PM
Thanks, that's helpful. I'll have to see what things are like on the 28th to determine if I can possibly attend.
I'll ask, but it might be futile.
It has to be unanimous though.
Doesn't matter which day to me as it's just a day trip.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
I'm pretty sure they extended the yellow phase throughout southwestern Pennsylvania. They may actually open up eastern Pennsylvania very soon, but of course that's no guarantee.
It may start raining fire and brimstone from the sky, but of course that's no guarantee.
I understand you want to have your meet go off without a hitch but statements like these help no one.
Quote from: csw on May 18, 2020, 02:15:35 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
I'm pretty sure they extended the yellow phase throughout southwestern Pennsylvania. They may actually open up eastern Pennsylvania very soon, but of course that's no guarantee.
It may start raining fire and brimstone from the sky, but of course that's no guarantee.
I understand you want to have your meet go off without a hitch but statements like these help no one.
I don't think any meet has ever been perfect.
Also, there is at least one person who says they just can't make it June 6. I'm starting to get an idea of what to do, but it's so crazy it might just work.
I have a crazy idea, and I don't know if it'll work. Would it be possible to have a meet on both May 30 and June 6? Or is that just spreading it too thin?
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 06:59:30 PM
I have a crazy idea, and I don't know if it'll work. Would it be possible to have a meet on both May 30 and June 6? Or is that just spreading it too thin?
I would keep it on one day. Don't worry if I can't make it. I'll see what laws PA has in place on 5/29.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 18, 2020, 06:59:30 PM
I have a crazy idea, and I don't know if it'll work. Would it be possible to have a meet on both May 30 and June 6? Or is that just spreading it too thin?
If you're free, no reason you couldn't host something both days for whomever can make it on whichever day. Even if just a couple of people come on the 6th, you could guide them on the tour.
At long last, I've finished the itinerary. People who are coming to the meet should copy this so they can use it...
2020 CINCINNATI ROADMEET!
Grab your raincoat! It's a Cincinnati roadmeet! All times on this itin are EDT and are tentative, but we can beat this schedule if we're cool and we don't dawdle. Most of the lettered items are waypoints that we can drive through, but a few are stops where we can get out and explore!
11 AM: Picnic at Bellevue Beach Park, 643-665 Frank Benke Way, Bellevue, KY 41073
12:45 PM: Drive 6 mi, 33 minutes
*A* - Bellevue Beach Park, 643-665 Frank Benke Way, Bellevue, KY 41073, USA
*B* - E 3rd St & Eggleston Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45202, USA
This begins an interesting stretch of 3rd that runs under the US 50 viaduct.
*C* - E 3rd St & Butler St, Cincinnati, OH 45202, USA
This ends the stretch of 3rd under the viaduct.
*D* - E 8th St & Broadway, Cincinnati, OH 45202, USA
Going north, peep the old US 22/OH 3 assembly at left. Not ancient, but pretty old.
*E* - Sycamore St & E 9th St, Cincinnati, OH 45202, USA
Notice an old 1950s-era sign blade.
*F* - W 9th St & Race St, Cincinnati, OH 45202, USA
Another old sign blade!
*G* - Gest St southeast of Freeman, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
Going southeast, there's a weird left-hand ramp with an old button copy sign to Linn Street.
*H* - Dalton Ave & Gest St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
Going south, watch for old signs on this stretch.
*I* - Gest St & W 3rd St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
Should be an old but not ancient shield. But this is not a stop, so we can keep moving!
1:18 PM: Drive 1 mi, 2 minutes
*A* - Gest St & W 3rd St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
*B* - W Pete Rose Way & W 3rd St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
Going northwest, this stretch has some old signs.
*C* - W Mehring Way & Freeman Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
This is a STOP! We can get out here and admire abandoned 5th St. We should be able to park on the abandoned roadway. But only if poo.
1:38 PM: Drive 1 mi, 5 minutes
*A* - W Mehring Way & Freeman Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
Going west, this stretch runs directly under a long rail bridge.
*B* - W Mehring Way & Harriet St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
End the stretch under the rail bridge.
*C* - W 8th St & McLean St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
Another STOP! There is a very old, rusted, possibly 1920s-era mileage sign for Cleves on one of the walls at the east end of the 8th St. Viaduct. Going south on McLean, you can see it straight ahead. Parking should be available at some parking lots nearby.
1:53 PM: Drive 1 mi, 2 minutes
*A* - W 8th St & McLean St, Cincinnati, OH 45203, USA
*B* - Evans St & Aaron Raines Ln, Cincinnati, OH 45204, USA
A STOP where we get to examine this unusual setup and the viaduct. Parking should be available on Aaron Raines Lane.
2:13 PM: Drive 13 mi, 45 minutes
*A* - Evans St & Aaron Raines Ln, Cincinnati, OH 45204, USA
*B* - 1445 Harrison Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45214, USA
This location starts the Western Hills Viaduct. With luck, we'll end up on the lower deck to enjoy.
*C* - 2336 Spring Grove Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45214, USA
End viaduct.
*D* - Dreman Ave & Dirr St, Cincinnati, OH 45223, USA
Look east. That's a closed stretch of Dreman. Heading back the other way, the next stretch has a couple old shields for you to peep.
*E* - Spring Grove Ave & Colerain Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45223, USA
This ends the stretch with the old shields.
*F* - 3010 Duck Creek Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45212, USA
A STOP involving a little-used road with a very old rail bridge overhead. The area should also have some older stop signs with a strange font. Parking should be available on the road.
3:16 PM: Drive 5 mi, 18 minutes
*A* - 3010 Duck Creek Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45212, USA
*B* - 4612 Red Bank Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45227, USA
This STOP is a stub end of Red Bank where it used to have a bridge over the rail line. Parking should be available on the road.
3:44 PM: Drive 1 mi, 6 minutes
*A* - 4612 Red Bank Rd, Cincinnati, OH 45227, USA
*B* - Red Bank Rd & Tompkins Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45227, USA
This STOP is the other stub end of the bridge in the last stop. Parking should be available on the road.
4 PM: Drive 2 mi, 8 minutes
*A* - Red Bank Rd & Tompkins Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45227, USA
*B* - 3725 Meadowlark Ln, Fairfax, OH 45227, USA
This STOP has a very old yield sign coming out of Frisch's parking lot onto Meadowlark. Park in the parking lot.
4:18 PM: Drive 13 mi, 42 minutes
*A* - 3725 Meadowlark Ln, Fairfax, OH 45227, USA
*B* - 6901 Wooster Pike, Cincinnati, OH 45227, USA
Going east, you should see an ancient US 50 cutout.
*C* - Wooster Pike & East St, Mariemont, OH 45227, USA
End cutout stretch.
*D* - 4619 Columbia Pkwy, Cincinnati, OH 45226, USA
As we head west, you should see a very old US 50 sign.
*E* - Eastern Ave & Delta Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45226, USA
Going southeast, we begin a stretch with a couple old shields. Again, probably not ancient, but still quite old.
*F* - Eastern Ave & Stanley Ave, Cincinnati, OH 45226, USA
End shield stretch.
*G* - York St & W 3rd St, Newport, KY 41071, USA
Heading southwest from the roundabout, we begin the new KY 8, which eventually leads us to the new KY 9.
*H* - W 5th St & Patterson St Newport, KY 41071, USA
This STOP has some nice abandoned roadways. Parking should be available on the street.
5:18 PM: Drive 2 mi, 9 minutes
*A* - W 5th St & Patterson St Newport, KY 41071, USA
From here we can go south on the new KY 9.
*B* - 1104 KY-9, Newport, KY 41071, USA
End new KY 9 stretch.
*C* - 19 W 11th St, Covington, KY 41011, USA
This STOP shows us a bridge now closed to auto traffic, which was part of KY 1120. Parking should be available on the street.
5:45 PM: Drive 2 mi, 9 minutes
*A* - 19 W 11th St, Covington, KY 41011, USA
*B* - 30 W 26th St, Covington, KY 41014, USA
At this STOP, an interesting stub of 26th runs southwest and ends at an abandoned stretch. There should be an old, embossed ROAD CLOSED sign. The best option for parking here may be the Boys & Girls Club.
6:12 PM: Drive 4 mi, 23 minutes
*A* - 30 W 26th St, Covington, KY 41014, USA
*B* - 675 Berry Ave, Bellevue, KY 41073, USA
At this STOP, a very old rail overpass goes over the street. Both directions have an ancient clearance sign on the bridge. There should be parking on the street.
6:40 PM: Drive 3 mi, 11 minutes
*A* - 675 Berry Ave, Bellevue, KY 41073, USA
*B* - Mary Ingles Hwy & Tower Hill Rd, Fort Thomas, KY 41075, USA
This STOP shows us the closure of the former KY 8. You may be able to park at the end of the open stretch, but once again, only if poo.
7:09 PM: Drive 4 mi, 17 minutes
*A* - Mary Ingles Hwy & Tower Hill Rd, Fort Thomas, KY 41075, USA
*B* - Mary Ingles Hwy & River Rd, Fort Thomas, KY 41075, USA
This STOP has the other end of the closure of the former KY 8. Again, you may be able to park at the end of the usable stretch, but of course that's poo contingent.
7:44 PM: Drive 6 mi, 17 minutes
*A* - Mary Ingles Hwy & River Rd, Fort Thomas, KY 41075, USA
*B* - 1 Nunn Dr, Highland Heights, KY 41099, USA
At the roundabout, we begin a new road called KY 2405, and we head south.
*C* - 541 Johns Hill Rd, Highland Heights, KY 41076, USA
This STOP should treat us to the stub end of the future KY 2405. We may be able to park at the stub end of the road.
8:19 PM: Drive 18 mi, 48 minutes
*A* - 541 Johns Hill Rd, Highland Heights, KY 41076, USA
*B* - 4312 Alexandria Pike, Cold Spring, KY 41076, USA
Bip onto East Alexandria Pike. Believe it or not, it was once part of US 27, and that's the only reason I'm including it.
*C* - 6478 E Alexandria Pike, Cold Spring, KY 41076, USA
As we continue on East Alexandria Pike, it gets tougher to imagine that this once was US 27.
*D* - E Alexandria at Alexandria in Alexandria, KY 41001, USA
End the old stretch of US 27.
*E* - Bellevue Beach Park, 643-665 Frank Benke Way, Bellevue, KY 41073, USA
There was a major mudslide on KY 9 yesterday that had all four lanes closed. I'm not sure of the location, but hopefully it will get cleared up before the meet.
Is there any danger of the park going under water due to all the flooding in the area? Near-record flooding has been predicted for this week for the Licking River at Cynthiana and Falmouth.
Quote from: hbelkins on May 20, 2020, 10:33:15 AM
There was a major mudslide on KY 9 yesterday that had all four lanes closed. I'm not sure of the location, but hopefully it will get cleared up before the meet.
That mudslide may be within sight of the part of KY 9 we'll be on, but it's not right on it.
QuoteIs there any danger of the park going under water due to all the flooding in the area? Near-record flooding has been predicted for this week for the Licking River at Cynthiana and Falmouth.
The park probably won't flood, but it's possible. I can find a different park if it does.
Quote from: bandit957 on May 20, 2020, 10:37:21 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 20, 2020, 10:33:15 AM
There was a major mudslide on KY 9 yesterday that had all four lanes closed. I'm not sure of the location, but hopefully it will get cleared up before the meet.
That mudslide may be within sight of the part of KY 9 we'll be on, but it's not right on it.
QuoteIs there any danger of the park going under water due to all the flooding in the area? Near-record flooding has been predicted for this week for the Licking River at Cynthiana and Falmouth.
The park probably won't flood, but it's possible. I can find a different park if it does.
Think about an alternative location, but no decisions have to be made till after Memorial Day.
In the meantime, I think it's safe to post the photos I embargoed that include some of the items on this meet, so folks can plan what to look for:
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/cinwcen19.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/cinnw19.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/scoutw19.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/scoutn19.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/scoute19.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/scoutft19.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/scoutw20.html
http://bunkerblast.info/roadpics/scoutn20.html
FWIW (7+ days out), weather forecast for Cincy, next weekend, has...
Friday - High of 78, low of 60. Decreasing chance of T-storms as the day progresses.
SATURDAY - High of 78, low of 61. Partly cloudy
Sunday - High of 77, low of 60. Partly cloudy
Of course, subject to change.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 23, 2020, 10:13:01 PM
FWIW (7+ days out), weather forecast for Cincy, next weekend, has...
Friday - High of 78, low of 60. Decreasing chance of T-storms as the day progresses.
SATURDAY - High of 78, low of 61. Partly cloudy
Sunday - High of 77, low of 60. Partly cloudy
Of course, subject to change.
I'm just assuming rain. That's why I warned everyone to bring a raincoat along with their picnic items.
According to Google Maps (so take it for what its worth...)
KY 9 is still closed from I-275 to Newport, and supposedly through Saturday (must be for the mudslide H.B. spoke of up thread)
Beekman Street is shown as closed, through Sunday, around the western end of the Western Hills Viaduct.
Last week, there was concerning that the Ohio River could flood the park where we're meeting before starting the tour.
That should not be a concern. The projected height for the Ohio River for Saturday will be 33 feet, 7 ft below where the "action stage" (whatever that is)
Water Level at the Roebling bridge - https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=ccno1&wfo=iln
Far as weather for Cincy goes. A cold front will go through Ohio on Friday. Saturday is shown to be Partly cloudy with a high of 73. If you plan on staying over in Cincinnati for the weekend, Saturday night/Sunday morning low could dip below 50 degrees, and Sunday's high is projected to be 70 degees and Sunny.
Unless you have a hard time getting warm, jackets shouldn't be necessary (unless you are staying over in Cincy this weekend, in which case, bring a windbreaker)
If nothing else, there should be nothing meteorological nor climalogical to adversely effect Tim's roadmeet.
Today was the long-awaited Cincinnati roadmeet that I hosted!
A half-dozen people showed, coming from as far away as Missouri, Tennessee, and Illinois. As Roads Scholars, we drove about the roads of Cincinnati like the unassailable superpeople we are.
Someone said the meet would have drawn even more people, except that recent circumstances may have discouraged them.
Best all, as we gathered in a restaurant parking lot as we prepared to leave, I briefly detected the unmistakable bouquet of a silent-but-deadly bunker blast.
As promised (to Brandon & Jason...at least) post meet back references
From http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/
Western Hills viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/westernhills.html
8th St Viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/8viaduct.html
3rd St. Viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/3viaduct.html
Gilbert Ave Viaduct (US 22/Oh 3), torn down & replaced when I-71 was built. http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/gilbert.html
Norwood Lateral - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/lateral.html
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 31, 2020, 10:13:06 PM
As promised (to Brandon & Jason...at least) post meet back references
From http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/
Western Hills viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/westernhills.html
8th St Viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/8viaduct.html
3rd St. Viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/3viaduct.html
Gilbert Ave Viaduct (US 22/Oh 3), torn down & replaced when I-71 was built. http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/gilbert.html
Norwood Lateral - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/lateral.html
I miss the Waldvogel Viaduct.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 31, 2020, 10:13:06 PM
As promised (to Brandon & Jason...at least) post meet back references
From http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/
Western Hills viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/westernhills.html
8th St Viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/8viaduct.html
3rd St. Viaduct - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/3viaduct.html
Gilbert Ave Viaduct (US 22/Oh 3), torn down & replaced when I-71 was built. http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/gilbert.html
Norwood Lateral - http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/lateral.html
More Post Meet - back references...
Duck Creek Road's new URL (since 2004, evidently) - http://duckcreekroad.com/
Various Cincy road photos (from 2009 back to 1948) - http://jjakucyk.com/transit/roads/index.html
Various Cincy streetlight & trafficlight photos, from 2009 - http://jjakucyk.com/transit/lights/index.html
https://www.cincymapcollection.com/historic-maps-of-cincinnati - Scroll to bottom of page for street maps of Cincy from 1938, 1953, & 1964