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Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly

Started by mass_citizen, December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM

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hotdogPi

Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.
Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.


Ben114

Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.

Must be different between roads, since Sutton is signed on both entries on 146. Links below may function wrong, on mobile currently.

Between exits 4 and 5:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HoQuXJAiWVFkbEwq7

At exit 5:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/kQpNts3ddXAdQpQ36

bob7374

Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.
New signage that has gone up on the Mass Pike seems to mark every town line. I have photos of the town lines signs traveling west from I-95 in Weston. Over about a 3 miles distance you first you see a sign for entering Natick, then Wayland, then Natick again, then Wayland again, then Natick again just before the MA 30 exit, then Framingham.

vdeane

Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.
Is it REALLY that short, or is that just where they placed the sign given that the road just crossed the river from PA?

I-81 SB has one that's actually that short (no, we're not in Orleans County, NY really does have two Towns of Albion and a Village).  For bonus points, I-81 doesn't spend all that long in the Town of Mexico either before these signs occur.  Three town line signs in less than half a mile (only SB too... NB goes straight from Albion to Richland without passing through Mexico; you could say that I-81 goes from Canada to Mexico but not the reverse).
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Rothman

Quote from: bob7374 on February 03, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.
New signage that has gone up on the Mass Pike seems to mark every town line. I have photos of the town lines signs traveling west from I-95 in Weston. Over about a 3 miles distance you first you see a sign for entering Natick, then Wayland, then Natick again, then Wayland again, then Natick again just before the MA 30 exit, then Framingham.
I've always thought the signs going back and forth between Shutesbury and New Salem on US 202 were interesting...insofar that someone really wanted them to be there.

And, of course, there's the single Clarksburg/North Adams sign on the interior of the hairpin turn on MA 2.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

csw

This sign is peak Rhode Island. I would argue that it checks each of the good, bad, and ugly boxes.


1995hoo

I had to go to Alexandria yesterday and while I was stopped at a red light on a service road I noticed this peculiar sign on King Street at North Dearing Street. I found myself wondering how many problems they had with people turning incorrectly to necessitate this. Turning like the sign shows seems blindingly obvious.

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jakeroot

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
I had to go to Alexandria yesterday and while I was stopped at a red light on a service road I noticed this peculiar sign on King Street at North Dearing Street. I found myself wondering how many problems they had with people turning incorrectly to necessitate this. Turning like the sign shows seems blindingly obvious.



Same sign also exists in Arlington. This intersection (where Veitch, Clarendon and Wilson meet) in Court House for instance.

The sign is necessary because, with wider intersections, sometimes you'll see people turn behind each other instead. At this intersection in Vancouver, BC, for example.

The intersection in Alexandria is not as wide as that Vancouver example, so I'd think drivers would normally turn in front of each other anyways. But maybe they were having some issues at one point. The median does extend further into the intersection than would normally be comfortable for turning in front of each other, so drivers may have started turning behind each other.

At certain intersections in the UK, arrows actually force you to turn behind each other. This is to improve sightlines for drivers turning across traffic. There is certainly a benefit to it, although you have to be cautious not to block the intersection while waiting.

mrsman

Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2021, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
I had to go to Alexandria yesterday and while I was stopped at a red light on a service road I noticed this peculiar sign on King Street at North Dearing Street. I found myself wondering how many problems they had with people turning incorrectly to necessitate this. Turning like the sign shows seems blindingly obvious.



Same sign also exists in Arlington. This intersection (where Veitch, Clarendon and Wilson meet) in Court House for instance.

The sign is necessary because, with wider intersections, sometimes you'll see people turn behind each other instead. At this intersection in Vancouver, BC, for example.

The intersection in Alexandria is not as wide as that Vancouver example, so I'd think drivers would normally turn in front of each other anyways. But maybe they were having some issues at one point. The median does extend further into the intersection than would normally be comfortable for turning in front of each other, so drivers may have started turning behind each other.

At certain intersections in the UK, arrows actually force you to turn behind each other. This is to improve sightlines for drivers turning across traffic. There is certainly a benefit to it, although you have to be cautious not to block the intersection while waiting.

There are other ways of handling the wide median problem.  Here, there are markings on the ground to guide people to begin making the turn when they are in the center:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.095157,-118.1520597,3a,75y,333.13h,80.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sznl-SpsvJRMhWaW8s-N-Fg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It seems that the L.A. practice, on wide medians, is to have cars turn in front of each other where there is a left turn lane, but to turn behind each other when there is no left turn lane.  The double yellow line here would seem to require turning behind each other to make the left from Barrington to San Vicente:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.053594,-118.4655408,3a,75y,287.73h,70.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swjcrECfmx0E0UeskkYIvjA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It operates as though it were two separate intersections, spaced close together, with the two directions of San Vicente behaving like a one way couplet.  One nice feature is that there is a brief lagging left phase, for both directions of the Barrington to San Vicente turn, that will facilitate intersection clearance, for those who are trapped in the intersection waiting for a gap to turn left.  Using 3M signals, so that only cars within the intersection will still see the green and green arrow.

D-Dey65


MCRoads

Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.
I build roads on Minecraft. Like, really good roads.
Interstates traveled:
4/5/10*/11**/12**/15/25*/29*/35(E/W[TX])/40*/44**/49(LA**)/55*/64**/65/66*/70°/71*76(PA*,CO*)/78*°/80*/95°/99(PA**,NY**)

*/** indicates a terminus/termini being traveled
° Indicates a gap (I.E Breezwood, PA.)

more room plz

roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

hotdogPi

Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.

MA officially has no truck routes (or any bannered routes at all; alternates are in the form of 1A, 2A, etc.), but there's still a Truck 114 posted in I believe Peabody.
Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

wanderer2575

Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.

I'm guessing the intent is to indicate that trucks must continue straight toward 495, not that there is a separate truck Route 495.


kphoger

So it should be a 'TRUCK ROUTE' sign instead of a 'TRUCK' sign?
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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Male pronouns, please.

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wanderer2575

Quote from: kphoger on February 13, 2021, 02:00:20 PM
So it should be a 'TRUCK ROUTE' sign instead of a 'TRUCK' sign?

I think so.  Something like this:



hotdogPi

Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.


roadman65

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26513361299/in/photostream/

Terrible patch job.


should have used the same size shield as the one it replaced.  However, at least they finally got the akwardness of the two SR 39 alignments settled
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

FrCorySticha

Quote from: MCRoads on February 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.

I was just in Pittsburgh this past week, and saw one of these when getting on I-376 heading towards the Turnpike. Merging in Pittsburgh is quite the adventure.

mrsman

Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

kphoger

Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

thenetwork

Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!

Also at that intersection, There is signage for both US-101 NORTH and US-101 WEST!

roadman65

Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 13, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.


I'm guessing the intent is to indicate that trucks must continue straight toward 495, not that there is a separate truck Route 495.






This is on the ramp from the Pulaski Skyway to Tonelle Avenue which allows no trucks as there is a ban on trucks the length of the skyway.   The first entrance to US 1 & 9 north for trucks would be at the intersection ahead, so no truck could ever see this unless you have a dumb driver who follows the GPS for cars like the one who got stuck on the Merit Parkway in CT ignoring the large sign stating that his vehicle is not permitted there.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

SectorZ

Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2021, 08:54:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.

MA officially has no truck routes (or any bannered routes at all; alternates are in the form of 1A, 2A, etc.), but there's still a Truck 114 posted in I believe Peabody.

Use to have something similar for 62 in Burlington (eastbound Bedford St, northbound 3A back to 62) but those signs are all gone now. Don't know when they were taken down but GSV back to 2007 shows them missing already.

This is how the 114 one is signed...
E/B, https://goo.gl/maps/wgU2aFW3byHoReZt6
W/B, it's signed well before the intersection, https://goo.gl/maps/JpLpAvMo6e4VGK1X9



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