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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6250 on: June 12, 2021, 08:50:21 AM »

(these two photos are several miles apart and have nothing to do with each other)





Seriously, is anyone going to go only 5 MPH?
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6251 on: June 12, 2021, 11:08:03 AM »

Saw a white on green Eisenhower Interstate Highway System sign at the SB Whitney Point rest area on I-81 in NY.

You can see a fuzzy picture of it on Google Street View:  https://goo.gl/maps/9pN42kB6xGUp9X2N6
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6252 on: June 12, 2021, 01:25:26 PM »

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Seriously, is anyone going to go only 5 MPH?

The same people who go 10kph in "shared zones" in Australia.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6253 on: June 12, 2021, 02:00:41 PM »

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The same people who go 10kph in "shared zones" in Australia.

Also, tourists enjoying the view in my hometown. (It sure feels like 5 mph, anyways.)
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6254 on: June 12, 2021, 02:31:48 PM »

When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG



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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6255 on: June 12, 2021, 07:17:38 PM »

When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG

Both of those signs are before the MUTCD was first developed in 1935, but I suspect that the button copy "Stop on Red Signal" sign was a staple of the original versions.  It was long gone from the MUTCD when I first started in railway signalling back in 1985.  But I've worked on many crossings that still had them (until my grade crossing replacements were completed).

The signal head that is mounted with "Stop on Red Signal" sign is a kluge.  It certainly doesn't belong with the sign.  It is supposed to resemble a single-head railroad signal.  The shield proportions are correct, but I've never seen a rectangular version anywhere.  Also, the lens placement is not correct for railroad signals, as there is supposed to be a minimum distance between each lens (such that an improperly displayed signal with more than one lens illuminated can be detected by the train crew from a long distance).  Just guessing, but it looks to me as if someone grabbed a modern traffic signal and adapted a rectangular shield to make it kinda resemble a railroad signal.  (Worse, I'm pretty sure that CSX would have certainly donated an old authentic Atlantic Coast Line signal head and provided technical advice so that this display could have been more authentic).
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6256 on: June 12, 2021, 07:36:59 PM »

When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG

The sign on the left is still in the MUTCD. It just looks like this now.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6257 on: June 12, 2021, 09:20:14 PM »

Saw a white on green Eisenhower Interstate Highway System sign at the SB Whitney Point rest area on I-81 in NY.

You can see a fuzzy picture of it on Google Street View:  https://goo.gl/maps/9pN42kB6xGUp9X2N6

I-590 used to have a blue one.  Looks like it was taken down when the reassurance shields and gore signs were replaced in 2019.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6258 on: June 12, 2021, 09:27:34 PM »

Saw a white on green Eisenhower Interstate Highway System sign at the SB Whitney Point rest area on I-81 in NY.

You can see a fuzzy picture of it on Google Street View:  https://goo.gl/maps/9pN42kB6xGUp9X2N6

I-590 used to have a blue one.  Looks like it was taken down when the reassurance shields and gore signs were replaced in 2019.
Right, but that's the one from the MUTCD.  They're all over the country.  Green is the wrong color.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6259 on: June 13, 2021, 09:00:17 AM »

When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG



The sign on the left is still in the MUTCD. It just looks like this now.

Yes, but I've known about that one long before the old version.


The signal head that is mounted with "Stop on Red Signal" sign is a kluge.  It certainly doesn't belong with the sign.  It is supposed to resemble a single-head railroad signal.  The shield proportions are correct, but I've never seen a rectangular version anywhere.  Also, the lens placement is not correct for railroad signals, as there is supposed to be a minimum distance between each lens (such that an improperly displayed signal with more than one lens illuminated can be detected by the train crew from a long distance).  Just guessing, but it looks to me as if someone grabbed a modern traffic signal and adapted a rectangular shield to make it kinda resemble a railroad signal.  (Worse, I'm pretty sure that CSX would have certainly donated an old authentic Atlantic Coast Line signal head and provided technical advice so that this display could have been more authentic).

Zoom in on those lenses, though.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG
If somebody did grab a modern signal and made it look like a railroad signal as you suggest, they did a very convincing job.




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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6260 on: June 13, 2021, 02:46:37 PM »

The signal head that is mounted with "Stop on Red Signal" sign is a kluge.  It certainly doesn't belong with the sign.  It is supposed to resemble a single-head railroad signal.  The shield proportions are correct, but I've never seen a rectangular version anywhere.  Also, the lens placement is not correct for railroad signals, as there is supposed to be a minimum distance between each lens (such that an improperly displayed signal with more than one lens illuminated can be detected by the train crew from a long distance).  Just guessing, but it looks to me as if someone grabbed a modern traffic signal and adapted a rectangular shield to make it kinda resemble a railroad signal.  (Worse, I'm pretty sure that CSX would have certainly donated an old authentic Atlantic Coast Line signal head and provided technical advice so that this display could have been more authentic).

Zoom in on those lenses, though.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG
If somebody did grab a modern signal and made it look like a railroad signal as you suggest, they did a very convincing job.

Never tried it, but railroad fresnel lenses should be interchangeable with traffic signal lenses.  They come in both 8-inch and 12-inch (and some other oddball sizes, as well).  Those guys look clear, but they are called "lunar white" and actually have a bluish tint.  That closeup does show several square and rectangular pieces screwed into the main signal backplate to widen the shield.  The closeup also reveals that the three signal hood fixtures are also authentic, so it's probably not constructed from a real traffic signal.   
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6261 on: June 15, 2021, 11:50:58 AM »

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6262 on: June 15, 2021, 02:48:47 PM »

A great attempt, but that diagrammatic is so small that it's hard to make out the lane lines.

Also kind of interesting that they're using the same gantry design KDOT used for the I-35/I-435 junction. KDOT, of course, is historically one of the heaviest users of diagrammatics.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6263 on: June 17, 2021, 12:15:49 PM »

Beverly Hills has some interesting Historic 66 signs on CA2.


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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6264 on: June 17, 2021, 05:06:41 PM »

Not a sign. Pavement markings.

I have seen sharks teeth applied along the edge of the roadway rather than perpendicular to the roadway at roundabouts (example in Sedro-Woolley, WA, variant in Puyallup, WA); not sure if this is permitted or not. I do personally like it, and wish it were more common. I know it's the standard in a few European countries.

Anyways, I actually found this method of application applied to a regular slip lane: 10 Fwy at Dillon Road, Coachella, CA. The standard look, as noted above, is for the sharks teeth to be perpendicular to the roadway, with at most white dashed lines along the roadway edge ('edge extension markings' IIRC). This basically combines the two into a single design.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6265 on: June 17, 2021, 09:12:23 PM »

Not a sign. Pavement markings.

I have seen sharks teeth applied along the edge of the roadway rather than perpendicular to the roadway at roundabouts (example in Sedro-Woolley, WA, variant in Puyallup, WA); not sure if this is permitted or not. I do personally like it, and wish it were more common. I know it's the standard in a few European countries.

Anyways, I actually found this method of application applied to a regular slip lane: 10 Fwy at Dillon Road, Coachella, CA. The standard look, as noted above, is for the sharks teeth to be perpendicular to the roadway, with at most white dashed lines along the roadway edge ('edge extension markings' IIRC). This basically combines the two into a single design.

I've been seeing some perpendicular "sharks teeth" turned the other way (sharp edge towards the traffic lane) being used here in North Carolina as a faux traffic calming measure.  I have no memory when or where, but it hasn't been that long ago (and we haven't travelled much recently).  I suspect its being used in some of the newer subdivision areas around Durham or Chapel Hill.
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6266 on: June 17, 2021, 09:38:35 PM »

The sharks teeth are called yield lines in MUTCD
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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6269 on: June 18, 2021, 04:41:12 PM »


Interesting

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Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
« Reply #6272 on: June 19, 2021, 10:04:51 AM »

This year:  "Ramp Closed St" from northbound I-75 in Detroit.

Also note the temporary exit number plaquette.  That's been there for years and has started peeling.  I don't know what that's about.

Also also note the "Rumble Strips / Attention Motorcyclists" sign just beyond.


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« Reply #6273 on: June 20, 2021, 12:16:19 AM »

Spotted this on US 23 south of Ashland, KY today.  The "open/closed" sign is posted before anything else referencing a weigh station...whether that's due to a missing sign or something, I don't know.

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