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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kphoger on June 15, 2021, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 04:11:33 PM

Quote from: kphoger on June 15, 2021, 03:54:12 PM

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 03:52:10 PM
The middle one has stop in both the native language and English.

Why should it need to have English?

If there are a lot of English speakers in the area it should be in English. That's why I think that using the octagon is a good idea, as people will know it's the stop sign even if they can't read what's on it.

Then the one on the left isn't confusing, because there aren't a lot of English speakers in Cuba.


Also places with English-speaking tourists.
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hotdogPi

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Also places with English-speaking tourists.

How many languages do the signs in New York City need to be in?
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kphoger

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Also places with English-speaking tourists.

So why just English, then?

Take the Russian sign, which you said is confusing.  Why should that have English, considering no English-speaking country even makes the top 15 list of that country's visitors?
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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2021, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Also places with English-speaking tourists.

How many languages do the signs in New York City need to be in?
One, although I would consider using Spanish in heavily Hispanic areas of America like Miami or south Texas.
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hotdogPi

The Russian sign says "STOP" in Cyrillic. You don't even need to know any languages using the Cyrillic alphabet; you just need to know what each letter's equivalent is between alphabets.
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kphoger

So, how about this one, which is used in all Spanish-speaking countries in South America (plus the Dominican Republic)?



Or this one, which is used in Mexico and all Spanish-speaking countries in Central America?



Or this one, which is used in Turkey?

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Male pronouns, please.

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Scott5114

Quote from: Bickendan on June 15, 2021, 06:28:28 AM
We should use the international speed limit signs - the red bordered white circle with just the number in it.

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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 15, 2021, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on June 15, 2021, 06:28:28 AM
We should use the international speed limit signs - the red bordered white circle with just the number in it.


Speed limit 456 lol
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kphoger

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Male pronouns, please.

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TXtoNJ

The New Mexico argument is about the stupidest one I see on a regular basis around here. They can just change the sign if it's all that confusing.

SEWIGuy

I wouldn't be against changing the speed limit sign.  I am just not sure the European one is what I would adapt. 

Roadgeekteen

What's the problem with the American sign?
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Scott5114

Quote from: TXtoNJ on June 15, 2021, 05:16:57 PM
The New Mexico argument is about the stupidest one I see on a regular basis around here. They can just change the sign if it's all that confusing.

Why should New Mexico have to change their sign? The zia is an important state symbol and works well as a highway marker.
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TXtoNJ

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 15, 2021, 05:37:14 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on June 15, 2021, 05:16:57 PM
The New Mexico argument is about the stupidest one I see on a regular basis around here. They can just change the sign if it's all that confusing.

Why should New Mexico have to change their sign? The zia is an important state symbol and works well as a highway marker.

Why should singular states' issues supersede national standards? Otherwise, Caltrans signs would still be black.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 05:29:53 PM
What's the problem with the American sign?


To get rid of the word-based instructions.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 15, 2021, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 05:29:53 PM
What's the problem with the American sign?


To get rid of the word-based instructions.
I think that people know the sign even with reading "speed limit".
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SkyPesos

Without any context, would anyone want to take a guess what this sign is?

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
Without any context, would anyone want to take a guess what this sign is?

speed limit
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SkyPesos


Roadgeekteen

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SkyPesos

#570
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 10:01:06 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
Without any context, would anyone want to take a guess what this sign is?

speed limit
nope
route sign?
Not that either. It's the minimum speed sign in China. You can see an issue with wordless signs here that are not universally used (like the red circle speed limit sign) for someone new to an area here.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 10:31:22 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 10:01:06 PM
Quote from: SkyPesos on June 15, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
Without any context, would anyone want to take a guess what this sign is?

speed limit
nope
route sign?
Not that either. It's the minimum speed sign in China. You can see an issue with wordless signs here that are not universally used (like the red circle speed limit sign) for someone new to an area here.
I do think that words should be on road signs.
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RobbieL2415

How is anyone not from the UK or the EU supposed to know (without a description plate) that this means "no motor vehicles"?


hotdogPi

A good sign with no words would say "50-80", with 80 as an example of the maximum speed.

Probably not dark blue, though; I thought it was a night limit.
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Traveled, plus several state routes

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New clinches: MA 286
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D-Dey65

Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2021, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Also places with English-speaking tourists.

How many languages do the signs in New York City need to be in?
They already have some street name signs in Korean and some Chinese language(s).





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