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Re: National Parks
« Reply #100 on: September 06, 2018, 05:25:01 AM »

Although the closest NP to me is Pinnacles, I've only actually been there once (from the east/CA 25 side); a bum knee keeps me from long hikes these days.  Technically, the park I've been to most is Redwood NP between Eureka and Crescent City -- only because US 101 runs right through it, and that's along my favorite drive of all time (US 101 between Ukiah, CA and Astoria, OR).  Have a soft spot for Lassen as well; one of the prettiest through-park drives of any of them.   
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #101 on: September 06, 2018, 08:07:05 AM »

Up to 255 out of 417 (made it out to Dry Tortugas to boot):

 Abraham Lincoln Birthplace National Historical Park
 Acadia National Park
 Adams National Historical Park
 African Burial Ground National Monument
 Allegheny Portage Railroad National Historic Site
 Andrew Johnson National Historic Site
 Antietam National Battlefield
 Apostle Islands National Lakeshore
 Appalachian National Scenic Trail
 Appomattox Court House National Historical Park
 Arches National Park
 Arlington House, The Robert E. Lee Memorial
 Assateague Island National Seashore
 Badlands National Park
 Belmont-Paul Women's Equality National Monument
 Bent's Old Fort National Historic Site
 Big Bend National Park
 Big Cypress National Preserve
 Biscayne National Park
 Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park
 Blackstone River Valley National Historical Park
 Blue Ridge Parkway
 Bluestone National Scenic River
 Booker T. Washington National Monument
 Boston African American National Historic Site
 Boston Harbor Islands National Recreation Area
 Boston National Historical Park
 Brices Cross Roads National Battlefield Site
 Bryce Canyon National Park
 Canaveral National Seashore
 Canyonlands National Park
 Cape Cod National Seashore
 Cape Hatteras National Seashore
 Cape Lookout National Seashore
 Capitol Reef National Park
 Carter G. Woodson Home National Historic Site
 Castillo de San Marcos National Monument
 Castle Clinton National Monument
 Catoctin Mountain Park
 Cedar Breaks National Monument
 Cedar Creek & Belle Grove National Historical Park
 Chamizal National Memorial
 Charles Pinckney National Historic Site
 Chesapeake and Ohio Canal National Historical Park
 Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Military Park
 City of Rocks National Reserve
 Clara Barton National Historic Site
 Colonial National Historical Park
 Colorado National Monument
 Constitution Gardens
 Crater Lake National Park
 Craters of the Moon National Monument
 Craters of the Moon National Preserve
 Cumberland Gap National Historical Park
 Curecanti National Recreation Area
 Cuyahoga Valley National Park
 Dayton Aviation Heritage National Historical Park
 De Soto National Memorial
 Death Valley National Park
 Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area
 Devils Postpile National Monument
 Devils Tower National Monument
 Dinosaur National Monument
 Dry Tortugas National Park
 Ebey's Landing National Historical Reserve
 Edgar Allan Poe National Historic Site
 Eisenhower National Historic Site
 El Malpais National Monument
 El Morro National Monument
 Eleanor Roosevelt National Historic Site
 Everglades National Park
 Federal Hall National Memorial
 Fire Island National Seashore
 First Ladies National Historic Site
 First State National Monument
 Flight 93 National Memorial
 Ford's Theatre National Historic Site
 Fort Caroline National Memorial
 Fort Davis National Historic Site
 Fort Frederica National Monument
 Fort Larned National Historic Site
 Fort Matanzas National Monument
 Fort McHenry NM and Historic Shrine
 Fort Monroe National Monument
 Fort Necessity National Battlefield
 Fort Pulaski National Monument
 Fort Raleigh National Historic Site
 Fort Scott National Historic Site
 Fort Stanwix National Monument
 Fort Sumter National Monument
 Fort Union Trading Post National Historic Site
 Fort Vancouver National Historic Site
 Fort Washington Park
 Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial
 Frederick Douglass National Historic Site
 Frederick Law Olmsted National Historic Site
 Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania County Battlefields Memorial
 Friendship Hill National Historic Site
 Gateway National Recreation Area
 Gauley River National Recreation Area
 General Grant National Memorial
 George Rogers Clark National Historical Park
 George Washington Birthplace National Monument
 George Washington Memorial Parkway
 Gettysburg National Military Park
 Glacier National Park
 Glen Canyon National Recreation Area
 Golden Gate National Recreation Area
 Governors Island National Monument
 Grand Canyon National Park
 Grand Teton National Park
 Great Basin National Park
 Great Egg Harbor National Scenic and Recreational River
 Great Smoky Mountains National Park
 Greenbelt Park
 Gulf Islands National Seashore
 Hagerman Fossil Beds National Monument
 Haleakalā National Park
 Hamilton Grange National Memorial
 Hampton National Historic Site
 Harpers Ferry National Historical Park
 Harriet Tubman National Historical Park
 Harriett Tubman Underground Railroad National Monument
 Harry S Truman National Historic Site
 HawaiĎi Volcanoes National Park
 Home of Franklin D Roosevelt National Historic Site
 Hopewell Culture National Historical Park
 Hopewell Furnace National Historic Site
 Hot Springs National Park
 Hovenweep National Monument
 Independence National Historical Park
 Indiana Dunes National Lakeshore
 James A. Garfield National Historic Site
 Jean Lafitte NHP and Preserve
 Jefferson National Expansion Memorial
 Jewel Cave National Monument
 John D. Rockefeller Memorial Parkway
 John Fitzgerald Kennedy National Historic Site
 Johnstown Flood National Memorial
 Klondike Gold Rush National Historical Park
 Korean War Veterans National Memorial
 Lake Chelan National Recreation Area
 Lake Mead National Recreation Area
 Lewis & Clark National Historical Park
 Lincoln Boyhood National Memorial
 Lincoln Memorial
 Little River Canyon National Preserve
 Little Rock Central High School National Historic Site
 Longfellow National Historic Site
 Lowell National Historical Park
 Lyndon Baines Johnson Memorial Grove on the Potomac National Memorial
 Maggie L. Walker National Historic Site
 Mammoth Cave National Park
 Manassas National Battlefield Park
 Manhattan Project National Historical Park
 Manzanar National Historic Site
 Marsh-Billings-Rockefeller National Historical Park
 Martin Luther King Jr. National Historic Site
 Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial
 Martin Van Buren National Historic Site
 Mary McLeod Bethune Council House National Historic Site
 Mesa Verde National Park
 Middle Delaware National Scenic River
 Minidoka National Historic Site
 Minute Man National Historical Park
 Mississippi National River and Recreation Areas
 Mojave National Preserve
 Monocacy National Battlefield
 Moores Creek National Battlefield
 Morristown National Historical Park
 Mount Rainier National Park
 Mount Rushmore National Memorial
 Muir Woods National Monument
 Natchez Trace National Scenic Trail
 Natchez Trace Parkway
 National Capital Parks
 National Mall
 Natural Bridges National Monument
 New Bedford Whaling National Historical Park
 New Orleans Jazz National Historical Park
 New River Gorge National River
 North Cascades National Park
 Obed Wild and Scenic River
 Olympic National Park
 Oregon Caves National Monument & Preserve
 Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument and Preserve (one unit)
 Paterson Great Falls National Historical Park
 Pennsylvania Avenue National Historic Site
 Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial
 Petersburg National Battlefield
 Petrified Forest National Park
 Petroglyph National Monument
 Pipe Spring National Monument
 Piscataway Park
 Potomac Heritage National Scenic Trail
 Poverty Point National Monument
 Prince William Forest Park
 Redwood National Park
 Richmond National Battlefield Park
 Rio Grande Wild and Scenic River
 River Raisin National Battlefield Park
 Rock Creek Park
 Rocky Mountain National Park
 Roger Williams National Memorial
 Russell Cave National Monument
 Sagamore Hill National Historic Site
 Saint Croix National Scenic Riverway
 Saint Paul's Church National Historic Site
 Saint-Gaudens National Historic Site
 Salem Maritime National Historic Site
 San Antonio Missions National Historical Park
 San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park
 San Juan Island National Historical Park
 Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
 Saratoga National Historical Park
 Saugus Iron Works National Historic Site
 Sequoia National Park
 Shenandoah National Park
 Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore
 Springfield Armory National Historic Site
 Statue of Liberty National Monument
 Steamtown National Historic Site
 Stones River National Battlefield
 Stonewall National Monument
 Thaddeus Kosciuszko National Memorial
 Theodore Roosevelt Birthplace National Historic Site
 Theodore Roosevelt Inaugural National Historic Site
 Theodore Roosevelt Island National Memorial
 Theodore Roosevelt National Park
 Thomas Edison National Historical Park
 Thomas Jefferson Memorial
 Thomas Stone National Historic Site
 Timpanogos Cave National Monument
 Timucuan Ecological and Historic National Preserve
 Tupelo National Battlefield
 Ulysses S. Grant National Historic Site
 Upper Delaware Scenic and Recreation River
 Valley Forge National Historical Park
 Vanderbilt Mansion National Historic Site
 Vicksburg National Military Park
 Vietnam Veterans Memorial
 Washington Monument
 Weir Farm National Historic Site
 White House (President's Park)
 William Howard Taft National Historic Site
 Wind Cave National Park
 Wolf Trap National Park for the Performing Arts
 Women's Rights National Historical Park
 World War II Memorial
 World War II Valor in the Pacific National Monument
 Wright Brothers National Memorial
 Yellowstone National Park
 Yosemite National Park
 Yucca House National Monument
 Zion National Park
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2018, 08:57:38 AM »

Although the closest NP to me is Pinnacles, I've only actually been there once (from the east/CA 25 side); a bum knee keeps me from long hikes these days.  Technically, the park I've been to most is Redwood NP between Eureka and Crescent City -- only because US 101 runs right through it, and that's along my favorite drive of all time (US 101 between Ukiah, CA and Astoria, OR).  Have a soft spot for Lassen as well; one of the prettiest through-park drives of any of them.   

Iíve been trying to convince my fiancť to go Lassen this whole summer.  Iíve been there twice but itís one of four National Parks in California she hasnít been to.  Lassen also has the advantage of probably being the most quiet National Park in California which is a nice change of pace from Yosemite. 

Incidentally I believe that Iíve now hiked every trail in Pinnacles now. There isnít a ton of Vista level scenery but that sure is a nice place to get a really long moderate difficulty hike in. 
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #103 on: September 06, 2018, 08:58:06 AM »

Any updates on where the legislation went?

I haven't heard anything.  Time to search Thomas

https://www.congress.gov/search?q={%22congress%22:%22115%22,%22source%22:%22legislation%22,%22search%22:%22indiana%20dunes%22}&searchResultViewType=expanded

Apparently it's only been introduced.  No further action has been recorded as of yet.

UPDATE:  Apparently it's passed one of the houses of congress.  It's just waiting on the other (Senate, I think.)
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #104 on: September 06, 2018, 03:23:00 PM »

My list, roughly in chronological order:

Everglades
Mammoth Cave
Great Smoky Mountains
Rocky Mountain
Hot Springs

And for fun, here's a list of National Forests I've hiked in:

Arapaho, CO
Chattahoochee, GA
Chequamegon-Nicolet, WI
Hoosier, IN
Nantahala, NC
Ouachita, AR
Pisgah, NC
Roosevelt, CO
San Juan, CO
Shawnee, IL

Will be adding Green Mountain, VT to that list shortly
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #105 on: September 06, 2018, 03:51:14 PM »

Although the closest NP to me is Pinnacles, I've only actually been there once (from the east/CA 25 side); a bum knee keeps me from long hikes these days.  Technically, the park I've been to most is Redwood NP between Eureka and Crescent City -- only because US 101 runs right through it, and that's along my favorite drive of all time (US 101 between Ukiah, CA and Astoria, OR).  Have a soft spot for Lassen as well; one of the prettiest through-park drives of any of them.   

Iíve been trying to convince my fiancť to go Lassen this whole summer.  Iíve been there twice but itís one of four National Parks in California she hasnít been to.  Lassen also has the advantage of probably being the most quiet National Park in California which is a nice change of pace from Yosemite. 

Incidentally I believe that Iíve now hiked every trail in Pinnacles now. There isnít a ton of Vista level scenery but that sure is a nice place to get a really long moderate difficulty hike in. 

That's one of the great salient points about Lassen -- it's far enough away from populated areas to be able to avoid the commercialization that permeates the parks farther south in the Sierras.  Although my GF definitely isn't the camping type (a motel with a fridge is her idea of "roughing it" -- she was born & raised in the CT 'burbs between New Haven and Hartford), she did like our one daytime picnic in the meadows at Lassen several years back as a side-trip from a Portland jaunt.  I had to convince her not to try to jump across one of the creeks in the meadow -- they're in volcanic crevasses that can be up to 12 feet deep and V-shaped!  Nevertheless, the best description of Lassen would be "bucolic" -- and definitely a nice escape from civilization! 
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« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2018, 11:48:55 PM »

Although the closest NP to me is Pinnacles, I've only actually been there once (from the east/CA 25 side); a bum knee keeps me from long hikes these days.  Technically, the park I've been to most is Redwood NP between Eureka and Crescent City -- only because US 101 runs right through it, and that's along my favorite drive of all time (US 101 between Ukiah, CA and Astoria, OR).  Have a soft spot for Lassen as well; one of the prettiest through-park drives of any of them.   

Iíve been trying to convince my fiancť to go Lassen this whole summer.  Iíve been there twice but itís one of four National Parks in California she hasnít been to.  Lassen also has the advantage of probably being the most quiet National Park in California which is a nice change of pace from Yosemite. 

Incidentally I believe that Iíve now hiked every trail in Pinnacles now. There isnít a ton of Vista level scenery but that sure is a nice place to get a really long moderate difficulty hike in. 

That's one of the great salient points about Lassen -- it's far enough away from populated areas to be able to avoid the commercialization that permeates the parks farther south in the Sierras.  Although my GF definitely isn't the camping type (a motel with a fridge is her idea of "roughing it" -- she was born & raised in the CT 'burbs between New Haven and Hartford), she did like our one daytime picnic in the meadows at Lassen several years back as a side-trip from a Portland jaunt.  I had to convince her not to try to jump across one of the creeks in the meadow -- they're in volcanic crevasses that can be up to 12 feet deep and V-shaped!  Nevertheless, the best description of Lassen would be "bucolic" -- and definitely a nice escape from civilization!

The first time I was there in 2014 I didn't notice any signs for sulfur vents on one of the trails (to my defense it was partially blocked by overgrowth).  I ended hearing water roaring under my feet and saw steam up ahead which clued me in to where I was.  I was able to back out without causing a cave in but it was probably the closest to ever getting seriously injured in 46 National Parks.
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2018, 08:52:30 AM »


Shawnee, IL


The Shawnees are amazing.  Really the only part of Illinois worth visiting, IMHO (remember I live in the SW Chicago burbs)
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« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2018, 01:26:07 PM »

Lassen is amazing.  We hiked up Lassen Peak last October--one of the top 3 most difficult hikes for two out-of-shape Midwesterners for sure.  But you get to climb to the top of a snow-capped volcano!  How cool is that?  And Bumpass Hell features some of the gaseous, colorful, bubbling geologic oddities reminiscent of Yellowstone.  Want to see some of the volcanic stuff without the crowds of Yellowstone?  Lassen NP will hook you up.  The best part is that it's over an hour from the nearest city with an Interstate running through it, so it isn't overly commercialized for once, as others stated above.

Shawnee National Forest is surprisingly delightful.  Ask the locals where the good swimming holes and natural features are at.  It'll make your trip more enjoyable.  My gf and I went there last July.  The Garden of the Gods is the best thing in all of Illinois, imo.  Also check out Pomona Natural Bridge, Cave-in-Rock, Jackson Falls, and Giant City.  (The only 2 natural areas other than this in IL worth visiting are the driftless area in the NW corner and the Mathiessen/Starved Rock area.)

I collect the brochures they hand you for free at the National Parks and other National "units."  I love starting collections of "free" things you get as souvenirs (why waste time in a gift shop?).  My gf and I now share 12 park visits with each other.
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2018, 03:08:59 PM »



Shawnee National Forest is surprisingly delightful.  Ask the locals where the good swimming holes and natural features are at.  It'll make your trip more enjoyable.  My gf and I went there last July.  The Garden of the Gods is the best thing in all of Illinois, imo.  Also check out Pomona Natural Bridge, Cave-in-Rock, Jackson Falls, and Giant City.  (The only 2 natural areas other than this in IL worth visiting are the driftless area in the NW corner and the Mathiessen/Starved Rock area.)

I live 30 minutes from Starved Rock, and the people from Chicago have ruined the place.  Last summer some asshole spray painted all over the council overhang area, and it cost the state several hundred thousand dollars to get rid of the grafitti.

As for the Shawnees, Rim Rock trail is amazing, and not as crowded as the Garden of the Gods.  A couple years ago I hiked a few of the Garden of the Gods wilderness area trails, and it is so very worth getting off the beaten path for. The Pomona Natural Bridge is pretty amazing.  I'm hoping they repair the La-Rue / Pine Hills road, as that's an amazing drive.  Really, in southern Illinois you can make a random turn and find something amazing.

I forgot about the driftless area.  Galena, Savanna..  Beautiful area.  Mississippi Palisades State Park is awesome, the drive up Blackjack Road from Hanford to Galena is very scenic.  The Chestnut Mountain Ski Resort just off of Blackjack has an alpine slide in the summer..  There's really no place in the area that doesn't have amazing views.
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« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2018, 01:54:25 AM »

Just got back from Yellowstone and Grand Teton. Saw tons of bison (literally) including a couple traffic jams (the saying goes, it's their park, we're just visiting, so be patient); pronghorn, moose, and a beautiful 10-point elk.
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2018, 07:43:15 PM »

Any updates on where the legislation went?

I haven't heard anything.  Time to search Thomas

https://www.congress.gov/search?q={%22congress%22:%22115%22,%22source%22:%22legislation%22,%22search%22:%22indiana%20dunes%22}&searchResultViewType=expanded

Apparently it's only been introduced.  No further action has been recorded as of yet.

UPDATE:  Apparently it's passed one of the houses of congress.  It's just waiting on the other (Senate, I think.)

If Cuyahoga Valley can be a national park, so can Indiana Dunes. Not a slur on Cuyahoga Valley, which is wonderful in its own right.

Now for my list of National Parks in the United States:
Acadia NP
Arches NP
Badlands NP
Bryce Canyon NP
Canyonlands NP
Capitol Reef NP
Cuyahoga Valley NP
Death Valley NP
Denali NP
Glacier NP
Grand Teton NP
Great Basin NP
Great Sand Dunes NP
Jefferson NP (though not since its redesignation)
Joshua Tree NP
Kenai Fjords NP
Ranier NP
Rocky Mountain NP
Saguaro NP
Wind Cave NP
Yellowstone NP
Zion NP
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #112 on: September 10, 2018, 09:33:27 AM »

22 National Parks:
Acadia
Bryce Canyon
Congaree
Crater Lake
Cuyahoga Valley
Everglades
Gateway Arch
Grand Canyon
Grand Teton
Great Smoky Mountains
Haleakalā
HawaiĎi Volcanoes
Kings Canyon
Mount Rainier
Olympic
Redwood
Rocky Mountain,
Sequoia
Shenandoah
Yellowstone
Yosemite
Zion
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« Reply #113 on: February 20, 2019, 08:14:21 AM »

No good pics to post, but I've visited:

Arches (Utah)
Badlands (S Dakota)
Everglades (Florida)
Grand Canyon (Arizona)
Great Smoky Mountains (N Carolina/Tennessee)
Hot Springs (Arkansas)
Mammoth Cave (Kentucky)
Rocky Mountain (Colorado)
Saguaro (Arizona)
Yellowstone (Idaho/Montana/Wyoming)

Add one to my list: Indiana Dunes National Park
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« Reply #114 on: February 20, 2019, 09:25:43 AM »

No good pics to post, but I've visited:

Arches (Utah)
Badlands (S Dakota)
Everglades (Florida)
Grand Canyon (Arizona)
Great Smoky Mountains (N Carolina/Tennessee)
Hot Springs (Arkansas)
Mammoth Cave (Kentucky)
Rocky Mountain (Colorado)
Saguaro (Arizona)
Yellowstone (Idaho/Montana/Wyoming)

Add one to my list: Indiana Dunes National Park

Saw that the other day, glad I stopped by in 2017 for some new hiking photos. 
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« Reply #115 on: February 21, 2019, 09:10:59 AM »

I did not realize this, but the Gateway National Expansion Memorial in St. Louis, MO, was renamed Gateway Arch National Park sometime last year.
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« Reply #116 on: February 21, 2019, 09:27:02 AM »

I did not realize this, but the Gateway National Expansion Memorial in St. Louis, MO, was renamed Gateway Arch National Park sometime last year.

Yes, the crappy part for me is that was something I lost in hard drive crash.  Iíve been trying to convince my wife to revisit the Gateway Arch and Indiana Dunes this summer because they were bumped to National Parks.
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« Reply #117 on: February 21, 2019, 09:42:33 AM »

I'm still confused as to why they made the Gateway Arch a national park. I get wanting to have one in the Midwest, but it's just a waterfront park with a man-made structure. If anything they should've made it a National Historical Park. I'm hoping this trend doesn't continue. I normally don't like this argument as justification for keeping things the same but the value of National Parks will be degraded if they keep adding things like the Gateway Arch.
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« Reply #118 on: February 21, 2019, 09:55:37 AM »

That is certainly opening the door to different possibilities. Why can't the Golden Gate National Recreational Area be a national park? It has a famous bridge and some nice scenery. How about the Statue of Liberty, Liberty National Park?

And while as a Hoosier I'm happy for Indiana Dunes to become a national park, I think Sleeping Bear Dunes and Painted Rocks National Lakeshores in Michigan should be upgraded as well. Both parks are absolutely beautiful and honestly more impressive than the Indiana Dunes are.
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« Reply #119 on: February 21, 2019, 10:31:45 AM »

That is certainly opening the door to different possibilities. Why can't the Golden Gate National Recreational Area be a national park? It has a famous bridge and some nice scenery. How about the Statue of Liberty, Liberty National Park?

And while as a Hoosier I'm happy for Indiana Dunes to become a national park, I think Sleeping Bear Dunes and Painted Rocks National Lakeshores in Michigan should be upgraded as well. Both parks are absolutely beautiful and honestly more impressive than the Indiana Dunes are.

But the door essentially has been there all the way back National Parks like Hot Springs and Mesa Verde.  Granted Hot Springs has a natural feature but itís the historic district of bathhouses which is what people see.  Mesa Verdeís primary feature is structures left behind by Native Tribes which is usually is National Monument fare. 

And yes, there is no real reason Sleeping Bear Dunes shouldnít be a full fledged National Park.  Those dunes are absolutely massive and seen endless on a day hike. 
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #120 on: February 21, 2019, 11:57:59 AM »

There was some talk about condensing the designation of parks down to several different types.

Right now we have

National Parks
National Monuments
National Memorials
National Recreation Areas
National Historic Parks
National Preserves
National Historic Sites
National Rivers
National Wild and Scenic Rivers
National Trails
National Parkways
National Heritage Areas
National Lakeshore
National Seashore
National Cemetery
National Battlefield
National Battlefield park
National reserve


Here's how I would change the designations...

Keep Parks, Monuments, Memorials and Recreation Areas. These would not change.

National Historic Parks - would be National Memorials
National Preserves - Folded into National Parks
National Historic Sites - Folded into National Memorials
National Rivers - National Parks or Recreation Areas
National Wild and Scenic Rivers - National Parks or Recreation Areas
National Trails - National Recreation Areas
National Parkways - National Parks or Recreation Areas
National Heritage Areas - These are almost all affiliated areas that get no federal funding. Not sure what I'd do with these, as the feds generally don't own anything in these areas
National Lakeshore - National Parks or Recreation Areas
National Seashore - National Parks or Recreation Areas
National Cemetery - National Memorial
National Battlefield - National Memorial
National Battlefield park - National Memorial
National reserve - Again, there's little federal area in any of these. Not sure how I'd handle these.
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #121 on: February 22, 2019, 09:04:31 PM »

I agree with simplifying the NPS designation system, but converting National Historical Parks, Battlefields, etc. to National Memorials wouldn't make any sense. National Memorials are traditionally just that ó memorials built after an event or a person, often not even having a physical relationship to the event or person. They memorialize historical events and people, but they are not themselves historic things (when built). National Historical Parks, on the other hand, generally preserve specific historical buildings and landscapes ó they are distinguished from National Historic Sites, generally, by being larger than a single "site." In fact, if we were going to change to a single term, it would be much better to use National Historical Park for all historic-related NPS units.

National preserves cannot be conflated with national parks, because there is a key legal difference ó by law, subsistence and sport hunting is permitted within areas designated as national preserves.

Likewise, terming the national trail system trails as "Recreation Areas" is needless and confusing because the vast majority of them are not physical "trails"; rather, the rough routes of those trails are marked on modern highways as "Tour Routes" allowing tourists to follow the general path of the trail, with certain sites along each trail preserved or commemorated.
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #122 on: February 22, 2019, 10:12:28 PM »

Oh, and NPS/FS units visited:

NP
Arches
Badlands
Bryce Canyon
Canyonlands
Capitol Reef
Channel Islands
Cuyahoga Valley
Crater Lake
Death Valley
Denali
Gateway Arch
Glacier
Grand Canyon
Grand Teton
Great Basin
Great Sand Dunes
Great Smoky Mountains
Joshua Tree
Kings Canyon
Lassen Volcanic
Mammoth Cave
Mesa Verde
Mount Rainier
Pinnacles
Redwood
Rocky Mountain
Sequoia
Wind Cave
Yellowstone
Yosemite
Zion

NM
Aztec Ruins
Bandelier
Cabrillo
Capulin Volcano
Castle Clinton
Cedar Breaks
Colorado
Craters of the Moon
Devils Postpile
Dinosaur
Fort Union
Fossil Butte
Hovenweep
John Day Fossil Beds
Lava Beds
Muir Woods
Natural Bridges
Oregon Caves
Petroglyph
Pipe Spring
Statue of Liberty
Sunset Crater Volcano
Timpanogos Cave
Wupatki
Yucca House

NPres
Craters of the Moon
Denali
Great Sand Dunes
Mojave
Tallgrass Prairie
Valles Caldera

NHP
Boston
Chaco Culture
Colonial
George Rogers Clark
Grant-Kohrs Ranch
Independence
Klondike Gold Rush
Lowell
Nez Perce
Rosie the Riveter/WWII Home Front
San Francisco Maritime
Sitka
Thomas Edison

NHS
Chicago Portage
Eugene OíNeill
Fordís Theatre
Fort Larned
Fort Point
Fort Vancouver
Golden Spike
John Muir
Manzanar
Minuteman Missile
Nicodemus
Pennsylvania Avenue
Sagamore Hill
Sand Creek Massacre
Ulysses S. Grant

NMP
Gettysburg

NB
Big Hole

NMem
Federal Hall
Flight 93
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Korean War Veterans
Lincoln Boyhood
Lincoln Memorial
LBJ Memorial Grove
MLK Jr. Memorial
Mount Rushmore
Port Chicago Naval Magazine
Theodore Roosevelt Island
Thomas Jefferson Memorial
Vietnam Veterans Memorial
Washington Monument
World War II Memorial

NRA
Delaware Water Gap
Gateway
Glen Canyon
Golden Gate
Lake Mead
Santa Monica Mountains
Whiskeytown

NS
Cape Cod
Point Reyes

NRiver
Mississippi
New River Gorge

NPkwy
Baltimore-Washington
Rockefeller

NSR
Saint Croix

NF
R1
Beaverhead-Deerlodge
Flathead
Idaho Panhandle
Kootenai
Lolo
Nez Perce-Clearwater

R2
Arapaho-Roosevelt
Black Hills
Buffalo Gap
Cimarron
Comanche
Grand Mesa-Uncompaghre-Gunnison
Medicine Bow-Routt
Nebraska
Oglala
Pike-San Isabel
Rio Grande
San Juan
White River

R3
Carson
Cibola
Coconino
Kaibab
Kiowa
Santa Fe

R4
Ashley
Boise
Bridger-Teton
Caribou-Targhee
Dixie

Humboldt-Toiyabe
Manti-La Sal
Payette
Salmon-Challis
Sawtooth
Uinta-Wasatch-Cache

R5
Angeles
Cleveland
Eldorado
Inyo
Klamath
Lake Tahoe Basin
Lassen
Los Padres
Mendocino

Modoc
Plumas
San Bernardino
Sequoia
Shasta-Trinity
Sierra
Six Rivers
Stanislaus
Tahoe

R6
Colville
Deschutes
Fremont-Winema
Gifford Pinchot
Malheur
Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie
Ochoco
Okanogan-Wenatchee
Rogue River-Siskiyou
Umatilla
Wallowa-Whitman (work for)

R9
Hoosier

R10
Chugach
Tongass (worked for)

USFS special designations:
Admiralty Island NM
Columbia River Gorge NSA
Giant Sequoia NM
Hells Canyon NRA
Misty Fiords NM
Mono Basin NSA
Mount Saint Helens NVM
Newberry NVM
Shasta-Trinity NRA
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #123 on: February 23, 2019, 12:53:24 PM »

Counting only parks I've been to as an adult and not ones I've been taken to:

Mt. Rainier
Olympic
Crater Lake
National Mall

I've also been to Banff, and Yosemite, and I want to go back to Yellowstone.

I've really only been to Rainier twice by myself and only once with a digital camera (when I can photograph wildlife without distraction).  I stumbled upon this bear cub in a meadow near Sunrise, and hoped his mom was not behind me.

Bear cub in Mt. Rainier National Park by Arthur Allen, on Flickr

On the trip with just a film camera I got a deer staring at me, and a mamma frog in a snowy pond, guarding her eggs.
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Re: National Parks
« Reply #124 on: February 23, 2019, 01:52:10 PM »

Strangely as many parks Iíve been to and as much hiking Iíve done I have yet to encounter a bear in a National Park.  The only bear run-ins Iíve had were in Florida State Parks in the central part of the state.
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