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Interstate 295- Fayetteville, NC

Started by Strider, January 03, 2013, 01:28:34 PM

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bob7374



sernum

Quote from: bob7374 on August 19, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
This gallery on the Fayetteville Observer website shows I-295 signs being uncovered as the road is opened:
https://www.fayobserver.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/08/19/fayetteville-outer-loop-opens-raeford-road/3392469001/
Do we have a paywall warning? i feel like those would help. also are these the same photos on ncdot's flickr?

sprjus4

Quote from: sernum on August 19, 2020, 11:17:26 PM
Quote from: bob7374 on August 19, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
This gallery on the Fayetteville Observer website shows I-295 signs being uncovered as the road is opened:
https://www.fayobserver.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/08/19/fayetteville-outer-loop-opens-raeford-road/3392469001/
Do we have a paywall warning? i feel like those would help. also are these the same photos on ncdot's flickr?
Different photos.












RoadPelican

The NCDOT press release is poorly written in regards to future segments of the Fayetteville Outer Loop, here's what I found out via some research on the NCDOT website

To Open in Summer of 2022:

A short 1 mile segment from Raeford Rd (US 401) to Century Circle

Also in Summer of 2022: The southern segment from I-95 to Camden Road

(This will create a hole in the loop from Century Circle to Camden Road)

To Open in Summer 2026: (assuming construction starts in Summer 2022)

The last section of the loop from Century Cir to Camden Rd, then the loop will be fully complete!

sernum

speaking of sections, why is it impossible to find public meeting design maps on the loop :confused:

bob7374

#180
I've posted photos taken along the newly opened section courtesy of David Johnson, they include construction that continues at the current end of I-295 South:


Remaining photos at: http://www.malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut295.html#photos

-- fixed URL code. -rmf67

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: sernum on August 19, 2020, 11:17:26 PM
Quote from: bob7374 on August 19, 2020, 08:56:19 PM
This gallery on the Fayetteville Observer website shows I-295 signs being uncovered as the road is opened:
https://www.fayobserver.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/08/19/fayetteville-outer-loop-opens-raeford-road/3392469001/
Do we have a paywall warning? i feel like those would help. also are these the same photos on ncdot's flickr?


I find some loopholes to bypass the paywall warning by using Archive.today and/or the Wayback Machine. Sometimes that work, sometimes that don't work
http://archive.vn/WUPgZ
https://web.archive.org/web/20200822144011if_/https://www.fayobserver.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/08/19/fayetteville-outer-loop-opens-raeford-road/3392469001/

sprjus4

^

On Google, I'll usually just disable Flash and JavaScript, and it works most of the time.

LM117

I got around that paywall by going incognito on Chrome. Works for me in most cases, though usually I'll have to enable cookies for it to work.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

sprjus4

Quote from: LM117 on August 22, 2020, 11:59:21 AM
I got around that paywall by going incognito on Chrome. Works for me in most cases, though usually I'll have to enable cookies for it to work.
I've tried this, and while I have success on some sites, others will immediately detect Incognito mode.

D-Dey65

Quote from: bob7374 on August 21, 2020, 09:51:56 PM
I've posted photos taken along the newly opened section courtesy of David Johnson, they include construction that continues at the current end of I-295 South:


Remaining photos at: http://www.malmeroads.net/ncfutints/fut295.html#photos

-- fixed URL code. -rmf67
Nice. You still have the dates wrong on most of my pictures, though.


LM117

Google Maps is now showing the new segment.
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

Roadsguy

I recently got a hold of the construction plans for the I-95—Camden Road section of the loop, and confirmed some suspicions about them by contacting NCDOT:

First, section A (I-95—Camden Road) actually stops just short of Camden Road. Section B (Camden Road—US 401) includes the Camden Road interchange and extends up to the current stub at US 401. Apparently the original intention was to build sections A and B at roughly the same time, but because section B was delayed, delayed, and most recently delayed some more, section A will be finished before B even starts construction. Because of this, section A will effectively end at Black Bridge Road, the second interchange after I-95 and the last before Camden Road. The signage plans seem to have been designed on the assumption that section B is already open, so I'm not sure if the signs pointing north from Black Bridge Road will be installed and covered up, or if they'll adjust plans to properly indicate the temporary end of the road there (including temporary striping and the "ALL TRAFFIC EXIT" sign banners)

Second, section A will unsurprisingly only be signed as NC 295 since it's discontinuous from the rest of the Interstate. Interestingly, the plans for section CA (US 401—Cliffdale Road, which I also obtained) also indicate NC 295 signage, but that segment opened fully signed as I-295.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

LM117

NCDOT has awarded a contract to replace all NC-295 signs with I-295 shields. Work can begin in August and is expected to be complete by next spring.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-14-07-fayettevile-signage-updated.aspx
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette

triplemultiplex

"That's just like... your opinion, man."

plain

I just thought of something. When NC's I-295 is finally signed and everything's official, almost all of the states with I-95 children will include an I-295. CT will be the only exception.
Newark born, Richmond bred

energy49

Quote from: plain on July 14, 2021, 06:12:01 PM
I just thought of something. When NC's I-295 is finally signed and everything's official, almost all of the states with I-95 children will include an I-295. CT will be the only exception.

You can add Georgia and South Carolina to your list with Connecticut..

akotchi

Opinions here attributed to me are mine alone and do not reflect those of my employer or the agencies for which I am contracted to do work.

vdeane

Georgia, South Carolina, and New Hampshire do not have I-x95 routes.  CT has I-395.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Roadsguy

I-295 was already the most common 3di number, so that makes sense.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

The Ghostbuster

I would have thought that North Carolina would have held out resigning NC 295 as Interstate 295 until the whole route was completed. Personally, I think it should have been signed as Interstate 295 from the get-go.

tolbs17

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 16, 2021, 04:03:28 PM
I would have thought that North Carolina would have held out resigning NC 295 as Interstate 295 until the whole route was completed. Personally, I think it should have been signed as Interstate 295 from the get-go.
They didn't sign I-540 NC-540, so why I-295?

fillup420

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 16, 2021, 04:03:28 PM
I would have thought that North Carolina would have held out resigning NC 295 as Interstate 295 until the whole route was completed. Personally, I think it should have been signed as Interstate 295 from the get-go.
They didn't sign I-540 NC-540, so why I-295?
different scenarios. the southern half of 540 is a toll road, and apparently can't be signed as an interstate because of that

froggie

^ Strawman argument.  Federal law does allow new toll roads (which 540 basically is) to be signed as Interstates.

tolbs17

Quote from: froggie on July 17, 2021, 09:22:41 AM
^ Strawman argument.  Federal law does allow new toll roads (which 540 basically is) to be signed as Interstates.
So, NCDOT can sign NC-540 I-540 if they wanted to?



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