This beast is the scariest bridge that I've ever crossed:
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More pictures are at:
http://bridgehunter.com/mo/miller/grand/ (http://bridgehunter.com/mo/miller/grand/)
Try this rickety-looking bridge (one of the Wainiha River crossings on HI 560 in northern Kauai):
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I've heard that this bridge was later temporarily replaced, or reinforced, pending construction of a permanent replacement. Overweight loads weakened it to the point that even a small firetruck could collapse it (and there's no alternate route to the northwest corner of Kauai).
The Tappan Zee Bridge :spin:
The Huey Long Bridge in New Orleans, because it feels like it sways. It's currently under reconstruction so I hope it will be better.
No really scary, but the U.S. 80 bridge between Vicksburg and the Louisiana border is very narrow.
The Tappan Zee Bridge is only scary knowing that about a third of the weight of the main span is supported by buoyancy, so if one of the caissons were ever to spring a leak...
The Goethals Bridge is the really scary one. :-/ Way too narrow for an interstate highway (well, it is I-278...). Good news is a replacement is on the horizon.
I suppose it's also worth giving a nod to the Philly-area Delaware River crossings from before the movable median barriers were installed.
Quote from: Duke87 on June 15, 2010, 07:51:17 PM
The Tappan Zee Bridge is only scary knowing that about a third of the weight of the main span is supported by buoyancy, so if one of the caissons were ever to spring a leak...
Yeah, they talked about the bridge on what I think was Crumbling America on the History Channel and explained this. Ever since I saw it, the bridge seems more scary.
I remember driving across (crept, might be a better word) this ancient bridge in my old home in Columbia County, NY back in 1979 when it was still open:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaw_Bridge
One lane, very low over the Claverack Creek where there are large old swampy willows, dark dense and heavily forested. Damn scary! Never crossed it again.
The bridge at Matanuska Glacier:
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But realistically, I was more concerned that the road would slide off the side of the hill on the other side.
Any bridge that requires me to look down more than a 1,000 yds at whats below.
Quote from: golden eagle on June 15, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
No really scary, but the U.S. 80 bridge between Vicksburg and the Louisiana border is very narrow.
I believe that bridge is closed. At least, it was in 2008 when I was last there. I don't know if they permanently want people taking the I-20 bridge, or if at the time it was just closed for maintenance.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 15, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 15, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
No really scary, but the U.S. 80 bridge between Vicksburg and the Louisiana border is very narrow.
I believe that bridge is closed. At least, it was in 2008 when I was last there. I don't know if they permanently want people taking the I-20 bridge, or if at the time it was just closed for maintenance.
It's closed to automobile traffic but open for rail traffic.
Quote from: golden eagle on June 15, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
The Huey Long Bridge in New Orleans, because it feels like it sways. It's currently under reconstruction so I hope it will be better.
Absolutely. The lanes are very narrow and the bridge vibrates when trains go across it.
[Arial is bad and you should feel bad.]
IMO, the Tappan Zee is scarier than the Huey Long Bridge.
Another scary bridge, well off the beaten path, is Stuckey's Bridge, southwest of Meridian, MS.
My vote goes to the Dingman's Ferry Bridge which spans the Delaware River between Milford, PA and Sussex County, NJ. You can actually see all of the paint marks along the side of the bridge from cars who have scraped the guard rail. Narrow is an understatement.
Quote from: bugo on June 15, 2010, 09:58:01 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 15, 2010, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: golden eagle on June 15, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
No really scary, but the U.S. 80 bridge between Vicksburg and the Louisiana border is very narrow.
I believe that bridge is closed. At least, it was in 2008 when I was last there. I don't know if they permanently want people taking the I-20 bridge, or if at the time it was just closed for maintenance.
It's closed to automobile traffic but open for rail traffic.
It had been over ten years since I crossed that bridge and I pledged not to cross it again. Now that I know it's closed to automobiles, that's great news to me.
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It had been closed to vehicles for at least 6 years already (So I'm already a bit off-topic, especially considering there's a thread about walking across bridges...), but 2 days after my last hike across the Davis Ave. bridge (connecting Riverview Park & Brighton Heights in Pittsburgh's Northside) the breaking news was that it was completely closed and emergency demolition contracts had to be issued because it was in immediate danger of collapse. (They imploded it about 2 weeks later).
I'm still a little pissed about the whole situation.
Hmm, I would say it's a cross between either the Delaware Memorial Bridge or the George Washington Bridge. I'm not a big fan of getting stuck in rush hour traffic on a bridge, and of course, that always happens whenever I'm on the two bridges.
The scariest bridge for me was the Grants Mill Road bridge over Lake Purdy in Birmingham. It had a 3 ton weight limit and I was afraid that the bridge was going to fall into lake with me on it. It is now closed permanently and slated to be replaced.
I'd probably say the sucky little one-lane wooden bridges on several county roads in Carter County, OK. They have a wooden deck made of planks that run perpendicular to the road. There are two "runners" made up of boards set parallel to the road for you to drive across. If you miss the runners, the deck is so bumpy that you nearly lose control of your car.
Two.......The old Jamestown Bridge in Rhode Island and The old Richmond-Lexington bridge in Missouri. Both very narrow and in poor shape. Funny is living in KC I had to drive that darn old Richmond-Lexington bridge many, many times.
Quote from: papaT10932 on June 16, 2010, 09:16:44 AM
My vote goes to the Dingman's Ferry Bridge which spans the Delaware River between Milford, PA and Sussex County, NJ. You can actually see all of the paint marks along the side of the bridge from cars who have scraped the guard rail. Narrow is an understatement.
Not really that scary. I've crossed the bridge in the area of 120 times over 19 years. The Dingman's Choice Bridge Company does a good job maintaining it and each Labor Day closing it for maintenance. Remember the the bridge is almost 110 years old. (110 will be in November)
Pond Eddy Bridge to most people is scary, but I've gotten used to crossing it without problems, I mean its a 107-year old relic. It needs replacement, but who knows what's going to happen. No construction is supposed to begin until
2013, when the bridge has its 110th anniversary as well. Its long outlasted its predecessors.
Some of the bridges on the northern end of the Delaware (when its a navigable span), both the Skinners Falls - Milanville Bridge and the Little Equinunk Bridges are one-lane, very tight, large spans. Although they may not look so, both are very well maintained and very old each. Skinners Falls is 109, while the Little E is 121, which is a nice tribute to all who honor the Delaware to have such old bridges.
Hmm, the most unnerving bridge I've been on was walking my bike across the southbound span of the Interstate Bridge from Vancouver to Portland, but it's not in any structural danger. The Sellwood Bridge gets that honor.
The 7th St Bridge between Oregon City and West Linn, however, is unnerving because how narrow it is.
I say the most scariest is the All American Bridge in Akron because that bridge is known as the city's suicide bridge. The reason for this is when I drive on the bridge (which is not very often) I'm always worry about someone jumping off of that bridge.
I-10/US 90 Calcasieu River bridge, Lake Charles, Louisiana. :ded: :ded:
Quote from: Urban Prairie Schooner on June 17, 2010, 10:01:16 PM
I-10/US 90 Calcasieu River bridge, Lake Charles, Louisiana.
Yeah, the approaches on both sides of that bridge are something else.
Hands down.... the Brookfield Floating Bridge on VT 65 (a dirt road), in the fall of 2005:
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It was definetely a little scary to drive over, especially when you got to one end and it sunk down and the bridge was covered in water.
Some brief info about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_Lake_Floating_Bridge
It's been closed since the fall of 2008, so VT 65 is a state route with a gap in the middle, and no easy way around it!
The Williamsburg Bridge.
The Millard E. Tydings Memorial Bridge.
The Suffolk County Road 16 Bridge over Long Island Avenue and the Main Line of the Long Island Railroad.
The Outerbridge Crossing, in a van.
Quote from: florida on June 25, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
The Outerbridge Crossing, in a van.
The Outerbridge Crossing is scary driving any vehicle, and especially scary when passing other vehicles. Fortunately, I don't have much reason to drive to Staten Island.
The Pond Eddy Bridge connecting NY with PA may be the scariest bridge that I've driven over.
Here are a few bridges worth mentioning....
-This "bridge" on Howarth Road in Lima, PA is pretty much pavement through a creek, with no guardrails...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lima,+pa&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.764224,78.662109&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Lima,+Delaware,+Pennsylvania&ll=39.890661,-75.422505&spn=0,0.004801&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.890076,-75.422752&panoid=veXDvOYD8pYyuj5t422FhQ&cbp=12,125.85,,0,7.51
-Manchester Road over Ridley Creek in Media, PA has a bridge that has definetely seen better days...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=media,+pa&sll=39.941803,-75.375569&sspn=0.004022,0.009602&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Media,+Delaware,+Pennsylvania&ll=39.902502,-75.392175&spn=0,0.009602&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.902586,-75.391996&panoid=Ekw_PPQgjzl-7jVy5_kOfQ&cbp=12,244.28,,0,9.83
Quote from: Dougtone on June 27, 2010, 07:51:02 AM
Quote from: florida on June 25, 2010, 01:20:37 PM
The Outerbridge Crossing, in a van.
The Outerbridge Crossing is scary driving any vehicle, and especially scary when passing other vehicles. Fortunately, I don't have much reason to drive to Staten Island.
There isn't much reason to go there, period ;) We were driving up to NYC and staying with a friend on the Island. Next time that happens, hopefully the Goethals bridge is re-done by then.
There used to be a very steep wooden bridge in Edwards, MS, that was recently replaced with a concrete bridge. Still scary because of the steepness. There's a bridge in Vicksburg that's similar to it.
This one is not scary because of design or condition, but because of history. It partially collapsed after being hit by a barge in 2002, killing 14. It's impossible to cross the bridge without thinking of the disaster.
I'm kind of surprised ODOT hasn't put up any signage noting the incident. Carrie Underwood gets a sign in Checotah though. :-/
here in San Diego, we get Danielle Van Dam, who makes our usual dam jokes seem like the ultimate in cosmic importance.
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 28, 2010, 12:38:41 AM
I'm kind of surprised ODOT hasn't put up any signage noting the incident. Carrie Underwood gets a sign in Checotah though. :-/
A sign like that would just scare motorists. No reason to get some idiot slamming on their brakes because they are suddenly afraid of crossing the bridge.
Quote from: Bickendan on June 17, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
Hmm, the most unnerving bridge I've been on was walking my bike across the southbound span of the Interstate Bridge from Vancouver to Portland, but it's not in any structural danger. The Sellwood Bridge gets that honor.
The 7th St Bridge between Oregon City and West Linn, however, is unnerving because how narrow it is.
I biked full speed on that bridge, and it probably wasn't the smartest thing I did considering how narrow the bike path is (particularly on the older span).
The Sellwood Bridge is actually pretty scary since it doesn't even look safe.
Pecos River Bridge which carries US 90 over the Pecos River. Not like a swaying issue, just the fact that you're over a huge canyon.
BigMatt
The first time I rode across the Huey P. Long and the original Rigolets Bridges were a bit harrowing. The original Rigolets Bridge is gone now and on many trips on the Huey P. Long since then, I did not experience any trepidation.
Royal Gorge Bridge (although not on a 'real' road, it's a little harry driving over it in a car). As for interstates, Goethals, or I-70 over the Monongahela.
For US routes, US79 in Arkansas (through the wildlife preserve) is an old dilapidated structure. US12 in Mobridge, SD (although rehabbed)
Sykotyk
Quote from: Sykotyk on July 13, 2010, 11:04:06 PM
For US routes, US79 in Arkansas (through the wildlife preserve) is an old dilapidated structure.
Are you referring to the Clarendon bridge?
For me, it would have to be the Huey P. Long Bridge in New Orleans, LA:
Followed very closely by the Grace Memorial Bridge in Charleston, SC (demolished 2005):
Both are large bridges, but are VERY old and narrow!
Although Huey Long won't be narrow much longer...
I've been over one or two, on the back of a motorbike, in the jungles of Borneo that was basically a plank of wood and two ropes to balance yourself. The drop was only about ten feet and the span wasn't much longer, but I seem to have blocked the memory.
I just drove across the Hawthorne Bridge on a scooter the other day. That was nerve wracking -- steel girder deck. Love the bridge, hate to wipe out on that.
Quote from: Bickendan on July 24, 2010, 07:55:15 PM
I just drove across the Hawthorne Bridge on a scooter the other day. That was nerve wracking -- steel girder deck. Love the bridge, hate to wipe out on that.
The roadway is a little scary, since you can see underneath it, but it's pretty sturdy. Also, the pedestrian path is paved. Yeah, I've been stopped multiple times from the place I volunteered at in East Burnside to Powells. I tend to have bad luck with Portland drawbridges. :P
Would definitely agree about the I40 Arkansas River crossing, especially if you're westbound.
However, the scariest bridge I've ever been across doesn't exist anymore. The US64 bridge from Webbers Falls to Gore across the Arkansas River was so narrow that you had traffic lights at each end because it was too narrow for 2-way traffic. Even then, it was VERY narrow and quite high. It was replaced in the 70's by the new US64/OK100 bridge.
The US70 bridge across the White River at DeValls Bluff was quite similarly scary. It too is not longer there.
Scariest Driven:
US 60/ 62 at Birds Point or maybe the US 49 Helena Bridge
Scariest Walked:
Chain of Rocks
Quote from: rte66man on September 08, 2010, 10:53:08 AM
Would definitely agree about the I40 Arkansas River crossing, especially if you're westbound.
However, the scariest bridge I've ever been across doesn't exist anymore. The US64 bridge from Webbers Falls to Gore across the Arkansas River was so narrow that you had traffic lights at each end because it was too narrow for 2-way traffic. Even then, it was VERY narrow and quite high. It was replaced in the 70's by the new US64/OK100 bridge.
The US70 bridge across the White River at DeValls Bluff was quite similarly scary. It too is not longer there.
The DeValls Bluff bridge was open to two way traffic. The concrete approach spans were narrow enough, but the steel trusses (with a steel grate floor) were even narrower. I don't know that two trucks could have met at the same time.
I don't know why they even bothered to replace that bridge. I-40 crosses the White River about 2 miles to the north, and that bridge carries very little traffic. They wasted money and destroyed a historic span.
This didn't happen to me personally, but I read that a woman from the Dominion of Canada was pulled over for going 100 m.p.h. on the Mackinac Bridge (maximum speed 45 m.p.h. on a calm day). She said it scared her to drive on it and wanted to get across it as quickly as possible :coffee:
The Merritt Pwky bridge over I believe the Houstatonic River, tons of traffic at 60 MPH, narrow lanes with a steel grid deck, eastbound on an upgrade, and it's pretty high up...in a rain storm it's a white-knuckle experience. Haven't been that way in several years...
Quote from: jemacedo9 on September 27, 2010, 08:30:11 PM
The Merritt Pwky bridge over I believe the Housatonic River, tons of traffic at 60 MPH, narrow lanes with a steel grid deck, eastbound on an upgrade, and it's pretty high up...in a rain storm it's a white-knuckle experience. Haven't been that way in several years...
The bridge you refer to has been replaced with a wide 6-laner.
i thought i remembered that - i hated that bridge!
I would like to add the following spans,
Calhoun Street Bridge, Trenton NJ
3 Ton Weight Limit, 15 MPH speed limit
Opened Oct 24 1884, 126 years old in a few days.
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Recently re-opened after a 6 month closure to replace the steel grid deck.
And the awesome, but scary for drivers who are not used to driving a stick shift car,
The Burlington Bristol Bridge, Burlington NJ.
Opened 1931, 12 foot wide lanes, two lanes total. Steep approach on the NJ side.
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(photo by me)
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It wasn't necessarily scary to me, but my grandmother's afraid of heights -- so she didn't like driving over the new I-10 Twin Spans. This was last year sometime when eastbound traffic was utilizing the westbound bridge. That migtht still be the case right now. I'm not sure. Haven't been to NOLA in a minute.
Be well,
Bryant
Honestly, the crossing over the Hoover Dam.
Yes, the area is very nice to look at overall, but the approach from either side is a nightmare and NOT because of traffic.
For a more conventional bridge, the Ironton-Russell Bridge connecting Russell, KY and Ironton, OH. It's ancient, hard to maintain, the steel is VERY brittle, and they can't replace it because of the economy. I was always afraid of a bridge collapse going over it years ago when I was just a kid. I can't imagine what I'd feel like if I had to go over it these days.
Easy: Golden Gate Bridge.
There have been so many head-on collisions over the years, any time I cross I deliberately avoid the center left lane. It is disconcerting to be driving across those narrow lanes in a dense 50 mph traffic flow knowing that all it takes is somebody fumbling with a cell phone or having a blowout, and you're toast.
I'll also add that riding a bike across the Golden Gate bridge can be pretty harrowing too. The winds come howling in off the Pacific, and if you're riding on the bikeway adjacent to the southbound lanes, it's very easy to feel like a gust is about to blow you over the short railing and onto the lanes of traffic. Add to that the mix of slow-moving tourists and Lance Armstrong-types on time trials, and it's a white knuckle (though beautiful) ride all the way across.
^^
Aren't there just reversible stick bollards acting as the divider on that bridge?
Be well,
Bryant
Yes, short plastic bollards placed at a regular interval are the only "divider" for the entire length of the bridge. Here is a good example:
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There is a project to install a movable barrier similar to the one on San Diego's Coronado Bridge, but it is still in the design stages and won't be in place for at least another year or two.
The Betsy Ross,Walt Whitman, commodore barry, and Ben Franklin bridges used to use regular traffic cones to divide traffic until the year 2000 when a movable concrete barrier was installed. I think the golden gate should keep its bollards, yes it is not the safest idea but the bridge would look wrong with a massive concrete barrier down the middle, would ruin its look.
Got to personally experience the Mackinac Bridge this past weekend. Very impressive.
I know some people are intimidated by the grated roadway in the left lane of the suspension span, but I found the diminutive guard rail on the approach spans to be more unnerving. Didn't give me any problem though, despite the lake effect snow that kicked in on the Mackinaw side.
Gorgeous views from their this time of year with the ice floes starting to pile up. Contrasts nicely with the deep blue of the lakes and the dark green of the pine-heavy forests on the shore.
The sign at the apex of the bridge, "No stopping or parking" was darkly humorous given the bridge's popularity with jumpers. The sign implies that the traffic obstruction created by a newly abandoned vehicle is the main problem.
Quote from: triplemultiplex on December 21, 2010, 11:28:08 AM
The sign at the apex of the bridge, "No stopping or parking" was darkly humorous given the bridge's popularity with jumpers. The sign implies that the traffic obstruction created by a newly abandoned vehicle is the main problem.
I wouldn't say that the bridge is popular with jumpers. A quick Google search shows maybe one suicide off the bridge every few years at most.
The Harrison Street bridge over the south branch of the Ecorse River between Lincoln Park, MI and Wyandotte, MI. But it has been closed since last year.
3 years ago, while visiting my Uncle in Groton, CT, we took a day trip to Newport RI and on the way back we went thru Providence. The Jamestown and Clairbourne Pell Bridges (RI 138) were not too bad just high. However, the Mt Hope Bridge (RI 114) was a scary-ass bridge. Narrow 2 lane bridge that had steel grates instead of pavement and it had to be at least 200 feet over the water of Naragansett Bay.
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 26, 2011, 05:25:45 PM
the Mt Hope Bridge (RI 114) was a scary-ass bridge. Narrow 2 lane bridge that had steel grates instead of pavement and it had to be at least 200 feet over the water of Naragansett Bay.
Steel grates?
Last summer when I went over that bridge it was definitely paved.
Quote from: Duke87 on February 27, 2011, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on February 26, 2011, 05:25:45 PM
the Mt Hope Bridge (RI 114) was a scary-ass bridge. Narrow 2 lane bridge that had steel grates instead of pavement and it had to be at least 200 feet over the water of Naragansett Bay.
Steel grates?
Last summer when I went over that bridge it was definitely paved.
That's what i remember the bridge having. I could be wrong though. i didn't take any pics since i was driving.
I remember a old trestle bridge at East-Angus on PQ-214 who have now been replaced by a more modern bridge 20 years ago. That bridge was a narrow one-lane and we wished then no one arrive in the opposite direction.
And the older Quebec bridge when I check the state of the steel....
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=46.744522,-71.287279&spn=0.004544,0.027466&z=16&layer=c&cbll=46.744545,-71.28728&panoid=i3AsCD7d77Ro1f1tMCwa4g&cbp=11,325.91,,0,-1.33
I think it's worth mentioning that the Québec bridge collapsed into the river as it was being built.
Twice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Bridge#History).
But quite honestly, the Honoré-Mercier bridge (QC-138) into Montreal scares me more in its current state. But thankfully it's being rehabilitated.
as a kid there was this bridge
http://www.riverbender.com/tv/index.cfm?id=1033
any incident on the bridge was big problems
I can't remember ever crossing a really scary bridge, 'cept maybe my first time across the old Byram swinging bridge near Jackson, but I well remember specific crossings that were very scary. By that I mean that conditions at the time made the bridge more than usually harrowing.
One would be the Huey P Long in New Orleans, during a very thick fog in 1991. It had been raining very hard for a while, and heavy rain all by itself is scarier in New Orleans than in most other places, and as I reached the bridge, at a point where it was too late to turn around, I saw a heavy fog bank ahead. This was on a Friday at about 5:30pm, so traffic was horrendous. I could barely see the cars around me, and I was scared. to. death.
Another would be once across the old Vicksburg bridge, in about 1985. Weather conditions were perfect, but the guy coming at me - who I could see from quite a distance - was obviously drunk and weaving all over the roadway. I almost turned to liquid before that guy passed by.
Quote from: Dr Frankenstein on March 02, 2011, 12:27:22 AM
I think it's worth mentioning that the Québec bridge collapsed into the river as it was being built.
Twice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Bridge#History).
But quite honestly, the Honoré-Mercier bridge (QC-138) into Montreal scares me more in its current state. But thankfully it's being rehabilitated.
I agree, I spotted some videos showing the bridge before its rehabiltation
I think the westbound patchwork is still there. (1st and 3rd vids)
Eastbound, there are two grooves in the asphalt where most vehicles' wheels would end up. At one point, a hole appeared.
http://pontmercierbridge.ca/eng/2010/07/emergency-work-starting-at-7-pm-tonight-friday-july-23-one-lane-close-in-each-direction/
http://pontmercierbridge.ca/eng/2010/07/follow-up-on-the-partial-collapse-of-the-concrete-deck-panel/
They also banned trucks on the westbound side recently.
http://monteregieweb.com/main+fr+01_300+Trucks_banned_from_southbound_Mercier_Bridge.html?ArticleID=679361&JournalID=24
http://monteregieweb.com/main+fr+01_300+Trucks_try_to_inch_forward_despite_ban.html?ArticleID=687350&JournalID=24
The scariest bridge for me was some un-named one lane bridge across the Snake River close to Twin Falls, Idaho. The "roadway" on the bridge was made of roofing material covering planks which creaked as you drove over it.
Which reminds me of another scary bridge , The Roylal Gorge in Canon City , Colorado, 1100 feet above the Arkansas River. It is a privately owned toll bridge, which you can either drive or walk or crawl across. The planking on the bridge is old railroad ties with about a two inch gap between each tie, and of course it makes a racket when somebody drives across it. It is only wide enough for one car to cross at a time.
The Aurthur Ravenel Bridge in Charleston, SC can be scary under high wind conditions! Ditto for the I-526 bridge upstream. I had to fight the steering wheel on the mini van I drove across both of these.
The Huey Long Bridge in New Orleans gets my vote as the scariest bridge I ever drove across. Once was enough for me!
Rick
Quote from: kharvey10 on March 05, 2011, 02:49:22 AM
as a kid there was this bridge
http://www.riverbender.com/tv/index.cfm?id=1033
any incident on the bridge was big problems
That is quite scary. Must be murder at night Kim. The construction when you got over the bridge the first time, was that for a new and better crossing?
The old Waldo-Hancock Bridge over the Penobscot River in Maine. It just felt old and rickety and very narrow. The Goethals and Outerbridge are more nerve-wracking due to the narrow lanes and heavy traffic, but the one in Maine felt very isolated and less likely to get regular maintenance.
My brother says the scariest bridge he drove across was the George Washington Bridge on his way home from our grandmother's funeral in 1995. Why that one? He was on the lower level in his 1974 Beetle in slow traffic and he saw a pothole near his car through which he says he could see the Hudson far below.
The Aurthur Ravenel Bridge in Charleston, SC when its windy! Also, the nearby I- 526 bridge has "taken control" of my vehicle when its gusty.
The Huey P. Long Bridge in Louisiana is also very scary. I was stuck in traffic on it this past Monday, and felt the whole entire bridge shake! There was not even a train on it, so I imagine when a train crosses it the whole structure really will give you a good mixin! The empty trailer being towed by a pick up in front of me was moving to it and there were no trucks going the opposite way! Locals here tell me this is normal!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTClulXrws4
check out this here video of my crossing the Huey P. Long Bridge Westbound. Sorry I did not get the whole crossing of it as there was a major traffic jam happening at the approach from the Eastbank.
Another one I had the pleasure of crossing: the Wheeling Suspension Bridge.
Chesapeake Bay Bridge. Drove it once back in the early 80's, on my way back to NC. Everything was copasetic until I realized..."Is that a GRATING for the bridge deck? OH MY GOOOOOOD!"
No, sir. Not even for free.
Heh, I've always felt more comfortable on grates than anything else on bridges. Those things are solid.
Quote from: corco on July 11, 2011, 06:04:29 PM
Heh, I've always felt more comfortable on grates than anything else on bridges. Those things are solid.
really? I've noticed that their traction is sometimes less than ideal.
When I first started driving, the NY 103 bridge over the Mohawk River between Rotterdam Jct. and Glenville was a steel grated deck. It's also a Barge Canal lock, so I assume that's why it was like that. I distinctly remember my car feeling like it was being tossed all over the place as soon as I got onto the bridge, especially during snow tire season. I wouldn't say it was scary, especially once I came to expect it. I don't think the car was moving side to side that much but it sure felt like it. The bridge has long since gotten a more traditional surface, plus it's now a much less important route since the NY 890/Exit 26 bridge was constructed.
I've been on the back of a motorbike over a couple of bridges in the Indonesian jungle where you have two ropes 3ft apart, and then some planks resting on them, with fairly big gaps in between. The planks weren't fixed and it was a 10ft drop into the river below.
Only 10 ft? I thought it was mandatory for those things to be 100 ft up! Perhaps I've seen too much Indiana Jones.
Grates don't strike me as too abnormal because there are a few in upstate NY (including a couple right near home, though the one I used to go on all the time was replaced over a decade ago with a "real" bridge deck), including the Thousand Islands Bridge.
Anyone driven over royal gorge in Colorado? I walked it but a few people did drive it. Worst I've ever seen are the ones in India the Ice Road Truckers went over
Quote from: deanej on July 12, 2011, 12:04:43 PM
Only 10 ft? I thought it was mandatory for those things to be 100 ft up! Perhaps I've seen too much Indiana Jones.
They have fixed planks and handrails those ones.
Also Indy and co tend to be walking, not on a motorbike.
The Chicago Skyway bridge (mainly because of its sheer height)
I have three scary bridges.
The first is probably only scary to me. I had recurring dreams for a while of the end of the world coming and these two twin gateways of doom featured. I eventually came face to face with them, the Delaware Memorial Bridge. I must have seen them on a trip down 95 as a kid and called them back up. And lit up at night, they look like Cirith Ungol in the LotR movies.
Second is only due to my personal experience with the bridge. Millard E. Tydings Memorial bridge over the Susquehanna on I-95. Crossed it during the edge of a tropical storm with lightning striking the bridge, wind gusts and no visibility.
My real vote is the outer roadway lower level eastbound on the Queensboro Bridge, though. I didn't even know it existed until I got lost trying to find the entrance to the normal lower level. (My wife gets skittish on bridges, so I go lower level middle lane.) I got onto the bridge and its a single lane, a former trolley path and very narrow, swerves near the bride abutments, and was the single worst experience I've had in a car. It's the mirror of the pedestrian path and is NOT for the faint of heart.
Quote from: texaskdog on July 12, 2011, 01:14:51 PM
Anyone driven over royal gorge in Colorado? I walked it but a few people did drive it. Worst I've ever seen are the ones in India the Ice Road Truckers went over
Yep, quite fun. You can feel a little bit of 'give' while you drive on the wood slabs.
The Fort Madison toll bridge. I had the misfortune to be stuck on an approach when the middle was open for ships.
The old I-90 bridge across Lake Washington. It had a reversible lane in the center, so inattentive drivers could easily cross over and get into head-on collisions at 60 mph. And no shoulders.
The Evergreen Point floating bridge (SR-520) across the same lake is just above water level. Whenever there's a storm, waves come crashing over the sides of the bridge and across the bridge deck. If it's bad, they close the bridge, but if the storm comes up suddenly things can get interesting. Also no shoulders and it used to feature a tight curve around a drawspan, which was sometimes a problem for drivers who didn't believe a freeway bridge could really have a 45 mph (or whatever it was) curve in the middle.
Quote from: Mdcastle on July 23, 2011, 06:03:53 PM
The Fort Madison toll bridge. I had the misfortune to be stuck on an approach when the middle was open for ships.
This one?
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I thought it was a blast to drive.
Agree with the bridge over the Susquehanna River in MD on I-95, what makes it a little more un-nerving is the big sign before you get on that says "Caution Area of Crossover Winds"
Quote from: Lightning Strike on August 16, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Agree with the bridge over the Susquehanna River in MD on I-95, what makes it a little more un-nerving is the big sign before you get on that says "Caution Area of Crossover Winds"
Oh, I'll third that. One of the only bridges I'm uncomfortable crossing in the outermost or innermost lanes due to the propensity for sudden gusts.
Supposedly, people are afraid of the delaware memorial twin span bridge....only reason i see is due to the approaches being steep looking.
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Not so much uncomfortable driving on bridges as stopping on bridges. This may have to do with the fact I grew up in/live in a city where 6 out of 7 bridges across the major river in town tend to move when barges and boats approach. Hence I don't like stopping on a bridge a bridge over water, any bridge over water, period.
Quote from: Steve on August 16, 2011, 11:52:42 PM
Quote from: Lightning Strike on August 16, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Agree with the bridge over the Susquehanna River in MD on I-95, what makes it a little more un-nerving is the big sign before you get on that says "Caution Area of Crossover Winds"
Oh, I'll third that. One of the only bridges I'm uncomfortable crossing in the outermost or innermost lanes due to the propensity for sudden gusts.
Even without the wind gusts, it's scary. The thing looks like a mere overpass. Picture a bus driver on that bridge falling asleep at the wheel or having a heart attack. Now imagine him cutting off another driver before they all take a final dive in the Susquehanna. To make matters worse, it's a measely six lanes wide, while the rest of I-95 is eight!
Quote from: Brandon on August 17, 2011, 08:43:49 PM
Not so much uncomfortable driving on bridges as stopping on bridges. This may have to do with the fact I grew up in/live in a city where 6 out of 7 bridges across the major river in town tend to move when barges and boats approach. Hence I don't like stopping on a bridge a bridge over water, any bridge over water, period.
With you on that. Especially on steel grates and drawbridges, I try to inch over the line to get off that bridge. Especially given the current state of our infrastructure.
The Centerton Road bridge can be both scary, and neat depending on the weather, for example when there is ice on the creek it is kind of neat seeing it from the low crossing.
It is a 1989 swing span that got a 6 on its bridge survey.
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http://uglybridges.com/1364387 (http://uglybridges.com/1364387)
Definitely agree with Interstate 10 in Lake Charles, LA.
Also the old LA 2 bridge in Sterlington, LA. It was narrow and I always seemed to pass the same time as an 18 wheeler or a redneck truck haha
There was also the one time I went across the LA 91 bridge near Estherwood, LA on a charter bus!! The bridge was nearly floating on the water anyway from a lot of rain, but I know water splashed across the bridge as we lumbered over...
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Quote from: Lightning Strike on August 16, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Agree with the bridge over the Susquehanna River in MD on I-95, what makes it a little more un-nerving is the big sign before you get on that says "Caution Area of Crossover Winds"
My mom was always scared of that bridge. We used to drive 2 or 3 time a year from NJ to visit my moms family in Jacksonville. So we drove that bridge probably 75 to 80 times. Its funny because looking at it its not real imposing like the Bay Bridge or Del Mem Br (SIC thanks NJ). I think the lane width and i seem to remember some fluorescent type lights on top of the guard rails... that could be a false memory
Quote from: jwolfer on August 24, 2011, 10:10:15 AM
My mom was always scared of that bridge. We used to drive 2 or 3 time a year from NJ to visit my moms family in Jacksonville. So we drove that bridge probably 75 to 80 times. Its funny because looking at it its not real imposing like the Bay Bridge or Del Mem Br (SIC thanks NJ). I think the lane width and i seem to remember some fluorescent type lights on top of the guard rails... that could be a false memory
I think I'd actually
prefer a more imposing bridge like the Delaware Memorial. At least you know you have side protection, and at least you can see what's holding it up. You have the same thing with both bridges across Arthur Kill, but they're both narrow little pre-Interstate rickety things. If I had to choose between the Goethals Bridge and Outerbridge Crossing, I'd take the Outerbridge Crossing. The Tydings scares me a little more now after the quake.
Here's the ironic thing; The Queens-Midtown Expressway between the tunnel and the BQE is over 106' high, and it doesn't scare me at all.
Quote from: jwolfer on August 24, 2011, 10:10:15 AM
Quote from: Lightning Strike on August 16, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Agree with the bridge over the Susquehanna River in MD on I-95, what makes it a little more un-nerving is the big sign before you get on that says "Caution Area of Crossover Winds"
My mom was always scared of that bridge. We used to drive 2 or 3 time a year from NJ to visit my moms family in Jacksonville. So we drove that bridge probably 75 to 80 times. Its funny because looking at it its not real imposing like the Bay Bridge or Del Mem Br (SIC thanks NJ). I think the lane width and i seem to remember some fluorescent type lights on top of the guard rails... that could be a false memory
If she'd seen it from the Hatem Bridge she'd never EVER get on it again. I did once during a bus trip home to Philly years ago and I freaked out completely-the bridge supports look like NOTHING. :wow: :-o Gah!
Quote from: DeaconG on August 28, 2011, 09:16:11 AMIf she'd seen it from the Hatem Bridge she'd never EVER get on it again. I did once during a bus trip home to Philly years ago and I freaked out completely-the bridge supports look like NOTHING. :wow: :-o Gah!
I've seen it from the Hatem bridge, and it had the exact opposite effect on me. Go figure.
Still, perhaps the police departments in Harford and Cecil Counties who go after drivers for shunpiking might consider the possibility that drivers might go around the bridge because they're scared of it.
It's illegal to go around tolls using completely legal roads? I don't see how that could hold up in court.
The old ASB Bridge in Kansas City.
The original lanes inside the trusses, while narrow, weren't too bad.
It was the "outrigger" lanes that had been grafted on outside the trusses that were scary!
Quote from: deanej on August 31, 2011, 11:17:55 AM
It's illegal to go around tolls using completely legal roads? I don't see how that could hold up in court.
I presume that what happens is the cops hang out on the shunpike and chase out of state plates for speeding or whatever, rather than literally giving a ticket for "illegal shunpiking".
This of course is for cars. Many states require trucks to stick to the NHS except for travel at the beginning and end of the trip or as necessary to stop for services, so for truckers shunpiking may, in fact, be illegal.
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I have never driven over a bridge that "freaked me out". Though, the Wheeling Suspension Bridge came close. I swear, that thing
moves.
I have a pretty bad fear of heights, so ironically, bridges like the Outerbridge Crossing, the George Washington and the Verrazanno cause me more problems than say something like the Pond Eddy Bridge or the Kellam's Bridge.
There's a bridge on I-10 east of the greater Houston area. Two lanes each way, steep climb, no shoulders, and the guardrail looks like it couldn't hold up to a pedestrian. Can't remember the name of it now.
Give me the Huey or the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles any day compared to that one!
Quote from: Darkangel on September 01, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
There's a bridge on I-10 east of the greater Houston area. Two lanes each way, steep climb, no shoulders, and the guardrail looks like it couldn't hold up to a pedestrian. Can't remember the name of it now.
Give me the Huey or the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles any day compared to that one!
Trinity River crossing (east of Houston) or Sabine River crossing (Tx-La border)?
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on September 02, 2011, 12:01:30 AM
Quote from: Darkangel on September 01, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
There's a bridge on I-10 east of the greater Houston area. Two lanes each way, steep climb, no shoulders, and the guardrail looks like it couldn't hold up to a pedestrian. Can't remember the name of it now.
Give me the Huey or the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles any day compared to that one!
Trinity River crossing (east of Houston) or Sabine River crossing (Tx-La border)?
Trinity River crossing, that's it. The Sabine River bridge is wide enough for me not to worry about it.
The Sabine River Crossing has been widened in recent years and can be striped for 6 lanes plus shoulders when the adjacent sections of I-10 get widened.
Quote from: Darkangel on September 01, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
There's a bridge on I-10 east of the greater Houston area. Two lanes each way, steep climb, no shoulders, and the guardrail looks like it couldn't hold up to a pedestrian. Can't remember the name of it now.
Give me the Huey or the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles any day compared to that one!
The Trinity River Bridge....and it's being upgraded to six lanes with a less steep gradient.
The I-10 Calcasieu River Bridge used to scare the hell out of me when I was young...but not now. The Fort Buhlow bridge in Alexandria/Pineville was no joke, either.
Anthony
Quote from: Anthony_JK on September 03, 2011, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: Darkangel on September 01, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
There's a bridge on I-10 east of the greater Houston area. Two lanes each way, steep climb, no shoulders, and the guardrail looks like it couldn't hold up to a pedestrian. Can't remember the name of it now.
Give me the Huey or the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles any day compared to that one!
The Trinity River Bridge....and it's being upgraded to six lanes with a less steep gradient.
The I-10 Calcasieu River Bridge used to scare the hell out of me when I was young...but not now. The Fort Buhlow bridge in Alexandria/Pineville was no joke, either.
Anthony
Fort Buhlow (actually O.K. Allen) bridge is super freaky even in my sedan...i can't imagine a large truck or SUV going across. They are rebuilding it right now for 4 lanes, I can't wait! I'll take pictures next time I'm home visiting family
For me it was the old Lake Street Bridge in Minneapolis (well, and St Paul, obviously). We lived about 6 blocks from it and drove across frequently. We often reviewed the "what to do when the car hits the water" procedures.
The old Lowry Ave Bridge was also scary in wet weather. The open metal grate driving surface was never confidence-inspiring in the best of conditions, but in the rain it was like driving on an ice rink.
I never actually got up the courage to drive across the old St Paul High Bridge.
The old Sunshine Skyway used to terrify me also.
Fortunately all of the above have been replaced.
New answer: Ogdensburg—Prescott International Bridge. Steel grating the whole way. Traffic light at the top for one-way traffic during construction. I was stopped for over a minute on a steel grating and it started to shake. I was ready to run out of my car and jump over just to get off that thing.
Quote from: Steve on September 11, 2011, 11:02:21 PM
New answer: Ogdensburg—Prescott International Bridge. Steel grating the whole way. Traffic light at the top for one-way traffic during construction. I was stopped for over a minute on a steel grating and it started to shake. I was ready to run out of my car and jump over just to get off that thing.
I've been over that bridge about a hundred times and was never scared...of course, that was before the construction on the bridge now...
Quote from: bassoon1986 on September 06, 2011, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: Anthony_JK on September 03, 2011, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: Darkangel on September 01, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
There's a bridge on I-10 east of the greater Houston area. Two lanes each way, steep climb, no shoulders, and the guardrail looks like it couldn't hold up to a pedestrian. Can't remember the name of it now.
Give me the Huey or the I-10 bridge in Lake Charles any day compared to that one!
The Trinity River Bridge....and it's being upgraded to six lanes with a less steep gradient.
The I-10 Calcasieu River Bridge used to scare the hell out of me when I was young...but not now. The Fort Buhlow bridge in Alexandria/Pineville was no joke, either.
Anthony
Fort Buhlow (actually O.K. Allen) bridge is super freaky even in my sedan...i can't imagine a large truck or SUV going across. They are rebuilding it right now for 4 lanes, I can't wait! I'll take pictures next time I'm home visiting family
I forgot one other bridge that would absolutely scare me while it was there: before they replaced it with a more modern span in the 1980's, the eastbound US 190 bridge across the Atchafalaya River was pure HELL. Like most of the Huey Long-era built K-truss bridges, it had a steep gradient and no shoulders. No one was happier than I when they replaced it.
Anthony
I believe someone mentioned the Queensboro Bridge outer roadway.
Well, I filmed it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrh2RJUAUk).
It is indeed "fun".
Louisiana bridges in general scare me, especially the high-level crossings, like the I-20 Ouachita River bridge (especially with its sharp S-curve on the Monroe side with no shoulders and no acceleration lanes) and the high span of the I-55 Manchac Swamp bridge. With that one, you see the almost vertical-looking rise of the US 51 bridge well before the I-55 one and that freaked me out a little the first time I drove it.
Quote from: The Situation™ on September 11, 2011, 11:02:21 PM
New answer: Ogdensburg—Prescott International Bridge. Steel grating the whole way. Traffic light at the top for one-way traffic during construction. I was stopped for over a minute on a steel grating and it started to shake. I was ready to run out of my car and jump over just to get off that thing.
If you don't like steel grating, don't drive over the Pont Victoria in Montreal.
Quote from: Duke87 on January 07, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
I believe someone mentioned the Queensboro Bridge outer roadway.
Well, I filmed it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrh2RJUAUk).
It is indeed "fun".
Holy crap. Never in a million years would I want to drive on that.
Queensboro's bad? Try Williamsburg (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/wburg).
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Quote from: Duke87 on January 07, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
I believe someone mentioned the Queensboro Bridge outer roadway.
Well, I filmed it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrh2RJUAUk).
It is indeed "fun".
Holy crap. Never in a million years would I want to drive on that.
The outer lanes on the McKinley bridge in St Louis used to have outer lanes on it. They were terrifying.
The US 52 bridge over the main channel of the Mississippi because it's narrow and the steel grid deck feels like it's trying to throw one into oncoming traffic.
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Another one i drove on, it was scary due to the flooding, the Demers Ave bridge Aka sorlie memorial bridge in grand forks ND. drove over it with the flood water almost touching the underside.
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New scariest bridge - the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway. It's not that high, but the length and lack of shoulders scare the hell out of me - especially if the car starts acting up midway across.
Seriously, the last thing you want to hear is something going wrong with the engine when you're at the 12-mile marker.
While not as scary as the Huey P. NOLA or I-10 Lake Charles, the I-10 Baton Rouge is pretty dangerous as well. It's way over capacity, has no shoulders and poorly designed interchanges on both ends. The traffic is usually pretty heavy, you are just one distracted driver, me suddenly stopping traffic, etc from an accident.
Mark
Quote from: Darkchylde on January 25, 2012, 08:37:46 AM
New scariest bridge - the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway. It's not that high, but the length and lack of shoulders scare the hell out of me - especially if the car starts acting up midway across.
Seriously, the last thing you want to hear is something going wrong with the engine when you're at the 12-mile marker.
Gotta be scarier for the plethora of cops that speed trap at every single crossing, and have to enter traffic from the side
In St. Paul, Indiana there is a scary bridge.
Ogdensburg-Prescott International Bridge; my car felt like it was being blown by wind the entire drive across.
There are three that come to mind.
- Sellwood Bridge (Portland, OR)
- Bridge of the Gods (Cascade Locks, OR/Stevenson, WA). When you get the winds really blowing in the Columbia River Gorge, this isn't that much fun.
- Pretty much any bridge on the infamous "Road to Hana" on the island of Maui, HI. And after several of these death traps, you get to Hana and think "Really? That's it?!"
Quote from: Steve on January 14, 2012, 01:42:00 AM
Queensboro's bad? Try Williamsburg (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/wburg).
I've found that scary since 1982. When I looked back on the history, and realized that the problems of that bridge could've been avoided by replacing it in conjunction with the LOMEX and Bushwick Expressway, I got more pissed-off about the anti-highway legislation of the 1960's and 1970's.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 22, 2010, 11:53:17 PM
I would like to add the following spans,
Calhoun Street Bridge, Trenton NJ
3 Ton Weight Limit, 15 MPH speed limit
Opened Oct 24 1884, 126 years old in a few days.
Recently re-opened after a 6 month closure to replace the steel grid deck.
And the awesome, but scary for drivers who are not used to driving a stick shift car,
I used to think this until I went over the Washington Crossing Bridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Crossing_Bridge), which is even narrower. I thought for sure I'd lose a mirror on that bridge.
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The Burlington Bristol Bridge, Burlington NJ.
Opened 1931, 12 foot wide lanes, two lanes total. Steep approach on the NJ side.
I live in Bristol and take this at least once a week (usually because gas is way cheaper on the NJ side of the bridge). I'm not bothered by the height or steep approach. What bothers me about it are two things. The first is the somewhat "flimsy" looking railing along the side of the bridge which don't look like they'd contain a car if it were to crash into them. The second is this minor irrational fear I have with movable bridges... that the operator won't be paying attention and open the bridge while I'm on it... especially in the morning when the RiverLine which crosses NJ-413 backs traffic up onto the bridge.
This one is pretty messed up;
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Quote from: Revive 755 on January 16, 2012, 08:12:13 PM
The US 52 bridge over the main channel of the Mississippi because it's narrow and the steel grid deck feels like it's trying to throw one into oncoming traffic.
I can second that one, especially if you're driving east, where you have to make an immediate stop. The Burt County toll bridge in Decatur, Nebraska is built the same way. There is one over the Kansas River west of Topeka (can't remember what town it's close to, but it's on the road south out of town and it connects to I-70) which seems even scarier because it's narrow and it looks like they filled in the steel grid with cement in a haphazard way.
For totally rural bridges, there used to be one near my uncle's farm near Adrian Minnesota on a formerly minimum maintenance road over the Kanaranzi Creek that used to make noise if you ever drove over it. I think they eventually replaced it because there was a farmer who owned property on both sides of the creek who complained about it.
There is also the old Rock Island Swing Bridge between St. Paul Park and Inver Grove Heights in Minnesota. That one always scared me as a kid because it was so old (and we always were on it because that was the way to work for dad). I always worried I was going to be stuck on the swing span when it opened.
Another one that was scary is the Meridian Highway Bridge in Yankton, SD, if you went north, because you had a long ramp up and a long ramp down.
Purely in retrospect, I'd have to also add the old I-35W bridge in Minneapolis.
The old Oliver Bridge south of Superior, Wisconsin. You could hear the wooden deck rumble as you drove it, and worse if a train was on the upper deck.
all tall bridges when i was young(3-6 years old) were what i thought to be the scariest things in the world, the scariest was the mackinaw bridge. (i was only 5 years old at the time)
Quote from: The Premier on June 17, 2010, 07:26:01 PM
I say the most scariest is the All American Bridge in Akron because that bridge is known as the city's suicide bridge. The reason for this is when I drive on the bridge (which is not very often) I'm always worry about someone jumping off of that bridge.
The $9 million project to add new, high fences that ruin the nice view from the bridge (and while they were at it, they did some other work on the bridge but they wouldn't have done that if it weren't for stimulus money and adding the fences) was finally completed in the winter after 2 years of closings, detours, delays, and so on. A couple weeks ago another person scaled the new fence and jumped to his death. Sadly, I don't think anything will ever stop people who are determined to kill themselves from jumping there if that is what they really want to do.
For whatever irrational reason, I never liked the I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna River in Maryland. Always seemed dangerous somehow. I never drove in the outermost lane of it due to my paranoia!
The scariest bridge for me growing up was the old wooden decked Beach Creek Bridge going into North Wildwood on whats now NJ-147. We went over it twice in its final days as NJDOT had a new bridge deck on site, I think it was around 1993-94 or so. Today it has been all bypassed by a modern 4 lane divided highway.
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Someone even posted a video crossing it back in 1987!: http://www.darkinthepark.com/Wildwood/wildwood2.htm
Another bridge that makes one nervous in the same area is the Middle Thoroughfare Bridge that connects Wildwood Crest and Cape May. Its narrow and has a toll booth on top of it! Its last bridge inspection had it rated at something like 3 out of 100! Besides getting stuck on it waiting to pay a toll, sometimes the drawbridge has trouble closing, so you get stuck on it waiting. Oh, and a boat or two has struck the bridge.
My scariest bridge was one I didn't drive across, but...
When I was a kid, I lived right next to the railroad tracks in New Lenox, Illinois. In those days (before MetRa started using them), there were only about two trains a day along that line, so the tracks were my playground. One day, my friend and I decided to walk out over a trestle, where one line goes over another line (here: http://goo.gl/maps/wGlk (http://goo.gl/maps/wGlk)). There was nothing in between the planks, you know, just gaps to fall through. No big deal, though, right? Well, right when we were at the midpoint, a train came down the tracks beneath us; just before it got to us, it blew its horn. HOLY CRAP! I literally jumped back at least one or two planks–fortunately landing on another plank and not a gap.
Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
My scariest bridge was one I didn't drive across, but...
When I was a kid, I lived right next to the railroad tracks in New Lenox, Illinois. In those days (before MetRa started using them), there were only about two trains a day along that line, so the tracks were my playground. One day, my friend and I decided to walk out over a trestle, where one line goes over another line (here: http://goo.gl/maps/wGlk (http://goo.gl/maps/wGlk)). There was nothing in between the planks, you know, just gaps to fall through. No big deal, though, right? Well, right when we were at the midpoint, a train came down the tracks beneath us; just before it got to us, it blew its horn. HOLY CRAP! I literally jumped back at least one or two planks–fortunately landing on another plank and not a gap.
:rofl: oh man that is too funny! :rofl:
Quote from: allniter89 on July 17, 2012, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
My scariest bridge was one I didn't drive across, but...
When I was a kid, I lived right next to the railroad tracks in New Lenox, Illinois. In those days (before MetRa started using them), there were only about two trains a day along that line, so the tracks were my playground. One day, my friend and I decided to walk out over a trestle, where one line goes over another line (here: http://goo.gl/maps/wGlk (http://goo.gl/maps/wGlk)). There was nothing in between the planks, you know, just gaps to fall through. No big deal, though, right? Well, right when we were at the midpoint, a train came down the tracks beneath us; just before it got to us, it blew its horn. HOLY CRAP! I literally jumped back at least one or two planksfortunately landing on another plank and not a gap.
:rofl: oh man that is too funny! :rofl:
i bet you learned your lesson!!!
I've never crossed a bridge that has given me an immediate "get me off of this thing" feeling. The Tobin bridge can be interesting during Noreasters, though. Might be worse this year if they don't finish construction on time, since the lanes are narrower than usual.
I crossed the bridge to Ile D'Orleans this weekend, and while I didn't have any issues on it when I went over it, I bet that thing is fun during the winter. Undivided, with just one 10 foot lane in each direction. Combine that with some snow and some ice and I bet that it's terrifying.
One bridge that scared me, in a way, at first was the Alfred E. Driscoll Bridge, in New Jersey:
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What scared me was how wide it was, and how many cars were on it, because I was surprised at how it could support so many. The southbound span(all the way to the left in the picture) has 7 lanes all on the same roadway, and the width combined with how high up it feels makes it a good adrenaline rush.
Another bridge I've been scared on is the Delaware Memorial Bridge, not because of the bridge itself, but because, this one time, a tractor trailer overturned about a mile after the bridge, and had traffic bumper to bumper along the entire southbound span. Having so many cars just stopped on a 60 year old bridge while it takes nearly an hour to make it across is kinda scary.
Neither of these are as 'scary' as others mentioned, but in their own way these two were kinda scary for me.
I understand. Bridges are less scary the faster across them you move–especially if you close to the rail.
Quote from: Some_Person on September 28, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
One bridge that scared me, in a way, at first was the Alfred E. Driscoll Bridge, in New Jersey:
What scared me was how wide it was, and how many cars were on it, because I was surprised at how it could support so many. The southbound span(all the way to the left in the picture) has 7 lanes all on the same roadway, and the width combined with how high up it feels makes it a good adrenaline rush.
If it makes you feel better, its even wider now (then that picture). Widest bridge in the world by number of lanes to be exact. Southbound is 7 lanes, and norhtbound is 8 lanes in a 4+4 configuration.
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 15, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
For whatever irrational reason, I never liked the I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna River in Maryland. Always seemed dangerous somehow. I never drove in the outermost lane of it due to my paranoia!
The Millard Tydings Bridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millard_E._Tydings_Memorial_Bridge) is high over the surface of the Susquehanna River, and because the river is wide and in a pretty deep (and wide) gorge, the bridge had to be high, even though there's little or no navigation (the river is not navigable much north of Port Deposit, Maryland, just north of this bridge). Because of the gorge, the bridge is subject to cross-winds (and there are signs warning of cross-winds).
Back when it existed, my mom told me about the old St. Charles Rock Road Bridge (Missouri Route 115). She would boast about how she crossed into St. Charles County from St. Louis County going home from work doing at least over 90 mph! It has since been replaced by MO-370, which at first was planned to be an extension of MO-115. The demolition of the old bridge led to the creation of MO-180. MO-115 is now limited to the areas of Lambert-St. Louis International Airport and Bridgeton.
My vote goes to the westbound I-64 Daniel Boone Bridge. Everytime I drive the three-lane bridge, I use the middle lane. It's set to be replaced in 2014-15.
Quote from: NJRoadfan on October 03, 2012, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: Some_Person on September 28, 2012, 09:39:27 PM
One bridge that scared me, in a way, at first was the Alfred E. Driscoll Bridge, in New Jersey:
What scared me was how wide it was, and how many cars were on it, because I was surprised at how it could support so many. The southbound span(all the way to the left in the picture) has 7 lanes all on the same roadway, and the width combined with how high up it feels makes it a good adrenaline rush.
If it makes you feel better, its even wider now (then that picture). Widest bridge in the world by number of lanes to be exact. Southbound is 7 lanes, and norhtbound is 8 lanes in a 4+4 configuration.
Being a roadgeek, I'm well aware :-P It's pretty amazing how wide it is. From what I've looked into, the only other roadway thats wider than 8 lanes on a single stretch (as in, not divided into express/local or anything like that) is I-75 northwest of Atlanta, http://goo.gl/maps/OrTK4
For me, probably the Hood River Bridge between Hood River, OR and Bingen, WA. It's structurally fine as far as I know, but it's very narrow, fairly long (~4400 ft), and quite high above the Columbia, plus it's a steel grid deck. It gets quite a bit of traffic for its two lanes and no divider, so it's pretty nerve racking when there's a semi in the oncoming lane, and the edge of the bridge on the other side, it feels like there's barely any room to squeeze through. I have family in Trout Lake, WA, so we cross that bridge many times a year. It's not too bad after the first few times, but I was a little worried the first time I drove it myself (even though I'd been over it with someone else driving dozens of times) :P
Here's a pic so you get the general idea of it:
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EDIT: Oh yeah, it can get real windy through there too :)
Quote from: NJRoadfan on July 15, 2012, 05:57:49 PM
The scariest bridge for me growing up was the old wooden decked Beach Creek Bridge going into North Wildwood on whats now NJ-147. We went over it twice in its final days as NJDOT had a new bridge deck on site, I think it was around 1993-94 or so. Today it has been all bypassed by a modern 4 lane divided highway.
This bridge gets my vote too. I seem to recall that the wood planks of the deck used to move when you drove on it. Also seem to remember the side rails being scary too. I recall the feeling that it looked possible for a car to go through the side rail into the water.
By new bridge deck do you mean a new wooden deck or the new 4-lane bridge?
I don't recall when in the 90's it was but I recall crossing this bridge when the new 4-lane bridge and roadway was under construction. That was an unexpected roadgeek joy.
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7 Undivided Lanes on most philly to nj spans.
no behemoth SUVs. fuck yeah.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 06, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
no behemoth SUVs. fuck yeah.
No, but the majority of cars are about the size of the average cabin cruiser that you'd see at your local yacht club! They handled about the same too.
Seriously, the areal footprint of the average sedan from 1973 or so was greater than the footprint of the vast majority of today's SUVs.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 06, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
No, but the majority of cars are about the size of the average cabin cruiser that you'd see at your local yacht club! They handled about the same too.
Seriously, the areal footprint of the average sedan from 1973 or so was greater than the footprint of the vast majority of today's SUVs.
I can still see through their windows at other traffic, as opposed to looking at the latest "tribute to America's growing obesity problem" monolithic tailgate.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 06, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 06, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
no behemoth SUVs. fuck yeah.
No, but the majority of cars are about the size of the average cabin cruiser that you'd see at your local yacht club! They handled about the same too.
....
Getting off-topic, I suppose, but the point you make is one of the reasons why I shake my head when people argue that speed limits similar to those we had in 1973 (prior to the NMSL) are too high or inherently unsafe. Compare how much better today's cars handle and stop to what was normal back then and then consider the vastly-improved safety equipment on even the cheapest of today's cars. There's really no reason, aside from politics, why as a general matter speed limits cannot or should not creep up over time as cars improve. (I say "as a general matter" because there will always be things like school zones, poorly-designed roads, or other special considerations. I'm talking about the highway system in general, though.)
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 06, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 06, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 06, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
no behemoth SUVs. fuck yeah.
No, but the majority of cars are about the size of the average cabin cruiser that you'd see at your local yacht club! They handled about the same too.
....
Getting off-topic, I suppose, but the point you make is one of the reasons why I shake my head when people argue that speed limits similar to those we had in 1973 (prior to the NMSL) are too high or inherently unsafe. Compare how much better today's cars handle and stop to what was normal back then and then consider the vastly-improved safety equipment on even the cheapest of today's cars. There's really no reason, aside from politics, why as a general matter speed limits cannot or should not creep up over time as cars improve. (I say "as a general matter" because there will always be things like school zones, poorly-designed roads, or other special considerations. I'm talking about the highway system in general, though.)
Much of the Capital Beltway in Prince George's County, Maryland had a posted speed limit of 70 MPH prior to the NMSL. And I suspect that the observed 85th percentile speed is about 70 MPH
now, even though the posted limit is still 55 MPH.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 06, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
Getting off-topic, I suppose, but the point you make is one of the reasons why I shake my head when people argue that speed limits similar to those we had in 1973 (prior to the NMSL) are too high or inherently unsafe. Compare how much better today's cars handle and stop to what was normal back then and then consider the vastly-improved safety equipment on even the cheapest of today's cars. There's really no reason, aside from politics, why as a general matter speed limits cannot or should not creep up over time as cars improve. (I say "as a general matter" because there will always be things like school zones, poorly-designed roads, or other special considerations. I'm talking about the highway system in general, though.)
There's still a substantial death rate due to car accidents. We have chosen to use the improved safety of newer cars to bring the death rate down a bit, rather than to raise speed limits. I see that as a good choice.
I don't know that it is scary per se, but it is long (over 4 miles end-to-end) and has no shoulders.
That's the William Preston Lane Jr. Memorial Bridge, a/k/a the Chesapeake Bay Bridge (http://www.baybridge.com/) (U.S. 50/U.S. 301).
The height and length of the spans don't bother me, but I don't like to drive it when the MdTA is running two-way operation, as it usually does on weekday afternoons. The original (1952) span is only two lanes, and normally carries all eastbound traffic. The "new" (1972) span is three lanes wide, and normally carries westbound traffic.
But on most weekday afternoons, the left lane of the westbound span becomes an eastbound lane, and I don't especially like that. When the crossing is running in that configuration, I always bear to the right at the toll plaza (all toll collection is eastbound only), so I am on the eastbound span and don't have to deal with oncoming traffic.
I have also driven across when the westbound span was shut-down for some reason, which means all traffic must run one lane each way on the normally eastbound span. Not much fun either.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 06, 2012, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 06, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
no behemoth SUVs. fuck yeah.
No, but the majority of cars are about the size of the average cabin cruiser that you'd see at your local yacht club! They handled about the same too.
Seriously, the areal footprint of the average sedan from 1973 or so was greater than the footprint of the vast majority of today's SUVs.
The bridge was like that 1957-1999/2000/2001 (i don't have the exact year handy) so there were suvs on the span without division.
SUVs have existed for many decades.
Quote from: bugo on December 07, 2012, 07:16:35 PM
SUVs have existed for many decades.
Indeed.
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Quote from: kkt on December 06, 2012, 05:29:27 PMThere's still a substantial death rate due to car accidents. We have chosen to use the improved safety of newer cars to bring the death rate down a bit, rather than to raise speed limits. I see that as a good choice.
Another reason it is a good choice is that, in most jurisdictions, post-1996 speed limits have already caught up to the actual design speeds of the roads involved. I am not comfortable with raising the speed limit on a road beyond the title-sheet design speed because that introduces conservatism of design as a factor. For a given design speed, a conservatively designed road will tolerate an additional increase in speed limit much more readily than a less conservatively designed one.
Quote from: Road Hog on July 14, 2012, 08:17:16 AM
This one is pretty messed up;
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That's a scary bridge! Looking on Google maps, it looks to be still there!
Quote from: kphoger on December 08, 2012, 11:09:59 AM
Quote from: bugo on December 07, 2012, 07:16:35 PM
SUVs have existed for many decades.
Indeed.
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I was thinking more along these lines:
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Quote from: J N Winkler on December 08, 2012, 11:21:07 AM
Quote from: kkt on December 06, 2012, 05:29:27 PMThere's still a substantial death rate due to car accidents. We have chosen to use the improved safety of newer cars to bring the death rate down a bit, rather than to raise speed limits. I see that as a good choice.
Another reason it is a good choice is that, in most jurisdictions, post-1996 speed limits have already caught up to the actual design speeds of the roads involved. I am not comfortable with raising the speed limit on a road beyond the title-sheet design speed because that introduces conservatism of design as a factor. For a given design speed, a conservatively designed road will tolerate an additional increase in speed limit much more readily than a less conservatively designed one.
I'm not necessarily convinced that it must be true that the design speed that was valid using 1940s or 1960s engineering principles is inherently still the valid design speed today given all the advances in automotive technology. But I definitely agree that it's eminently sensible for the people setting the speed limits to err on the side of caution.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 08, 2012, 06:50:26 PM
I'm not necessarily convinced that it must be true that the design speed that was valid using 1940s or 1960s engineering principles is inherently still the valid design speed today given all the advances in automotive technology.
Advances in automotive technology or not, the laws of physics have not changed. Nor has drivers' perception and reaction time.
I will gladly take the risk of injury in a collision to be able to drive faster. On a road with little traffic, the risk is very small. My time is worth more to me, and the less time I have to spend on the road, the more time I have to do whatever else I want to do. That's why I take interstates and turnpikes instead of dragging ass through small towns on 2 lane highways.
The Brent Spence (I-75/71) Bridge between Cincinnati, Ohio and Covington, Kentucky. No shoulders, 3-4 lanes each way. If you break down and someone driving 65 doesn't see you, you are SCREWED. People have actually DIED getting knocked off the Brent Spence!
Quote from: bugo on December 09, 2012, 02:06:18 PM
I will gladly take the risk of injury in a collision to be able to drive faster. On a road with little traffic, the risk is very small. My time is worth more to me, and the less time I have to spend on the road, the more time I have to do whatever else I want to do. That's why I take interstates and turnpikes instead of dragging ass through small towns on 2 lane highways.
I'd rather see more variable speed limits for this reason. This way you can get the benefit of a higher speed limit when traffic is light and the benefits (?) of a lower speed limit when conditions aren't ideal. Going way off topic, though, I wonder... other than slowing down traffic entering an area of congestion (to keep them from slamming into cars which are suddenly going much slower than them), does a lower speed limit in a congested area really have a safety benefit? It seems like by lowering the speed limit, you're effectively reducing the capacity of the highway, which only serves to make the road even more congested. This is only my observation as someone who drives, not as someone who has any knowledge of the engineering work (if any) that goes into determining the speed limit for an area. Design speed doesn't always seem like it's the primary reason, though. Compare US-1 and I-95 through Bucks County, PA... both are speed limit 55, but 1 has a much lower design standard than 95 (it has sharper curves and no shoulders or even proper merge lanes in sections). Thankfully it seems like even the PA troopers agree, and enforce 95 as if it were a 65 zone.
Quote from: Compulov on December 11, 2012, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: bugo on December 09, 2012, 02:06:18 PM
I will gladly take the risk of injury in a collision to be able to drive faster. On a road with little traffic, the risk is very small. My time is worth more to me, and the less time I have to spend on the road, the more time I have to do whatever else I want to do. That's why I take interstates and turnpikes instead of dragging ass through small towns on 2 lane highways.
I'd rather see more variable speed limits for this reason. This way you can get the benefit of a higher speed limit when traffic is light and the benefits (?) of a lower speed limit when conditions aren't ideal. Going way off topic, though, I wonder... other than slowing down traffic entering an area of congestion (to keep them from slamming into cars which are suddenly going much slower than them), does a lower speed limit in a congested area really have a safety benefit? It seems like by lowering the speed limit, you're effectively reducing the capacity of the highway, which only serves to make the road even more congested. This is only my observation as someone who drives, not as someone who has any knowledge of the engineering work (if any) that goes into determining the speed limit for an area. Design speed doesn't always seem like it's the primary reason, though. Compare US-1 and I-95 through Bucks County, PA... both are speed limit 55, but 1 has a much lower design standard than 95 (it has sharper curves and no shoulders or even proper merge lanes in sections). Thankfully it seems like even the PA troopers agree, and enforce 95 as if it were a 65 zone.
You know, I was thinking about this on Saturday on our way back from a trip out to one of the wineries. We were on I-66 and the speed limit is 70 mph for the whole portion west of US-15, then it goes to 65 mph and about three miles later the road widens from two lanes per side to four lanes per side, then four miles later the speed limit drops to 60 mph (road remains four lanes per side), then five miles later at the next interchange it drops to 55 mph (remains four lanes per side). I've always found it somewhat amusing and somewhat silly that so often when the speed limit drops due to reaching a more "congested" area, or simply a more populated area, the road also frequently widens out and becomes arguably a better road (likely with a design speed as high or higher than the rural stretch) than it was in the stretch with the higher speed limit. Virginia's rationale for the 60-mph zone on certain Interstates is that it "helps drivers transition from the higher rural speed limit to the urban 55-mph speed limit," though we all know that's a load of bullshit.
I think most drivers, when they see an eight-lane interstate with a wide, smooth surface and good visibility for a good distance that has the same 55-mph speed limit posted that prevails on the majority of two-lane roads where you pass over the center line and have a lot of blind curves and hills and such, quite understandably conclude that the posted speed limit has nothing to do with engineering or safety. Can anyone really blame most people for feeling that way?
As for variable speed limits, the problem those is that when they're coupled with roads that drivers feel are underposted anyway, they don't seem to do much good. We had a variable speed limit on the Capital Beltway near where I live for a few years during the Woodrow Wilson Bridge construction. The normal limit is 55 mph, but when traffic's flowing freely most people seem to do between about 65 and about 80 (with some people beyond either of those extremes). So when they posted lower numbers on the variable speed limit signs absolutely nobody paid any attention to them–which was probably wise, because when the speed limit was posted at 35 mph it would have been suicidal to go that slowly when everyone else was going close to 70 mph (VDOT began the lower speed limit well to the west of the area where the work was and so most drivers saw no reason to comply). The theory was that if people had obeyed the lower limits it would have worked like a funnel that clogs up or overflows if you dump in too much stuff at once but that works smoothly if you feed it at a slower pace. But nobody knows if it would have worked because everybody ignored it. I kind of think that if a variable speed limit were used in conjunction with setting a speed limit that most drivers think is reasonable, perhaps more people might take notice when the limit is reduced and conclude that there's something unusual up ahead.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 11, 2012, 04:55:44 PM
As for variable speed limits, the problem those is that when they're coupled with roads that drivers feel are underposted anyway, they don't seem to do much good. We had a variable speed limit on the Capital Beltway near where I live for a few years during the Woodrow Wilson Bridge construction. The normal limit is 55 mph, but when traffic's flowing freely most people seem to do between about 65 and about 80 (with some people beyond either of those extremes). So when they posted lower numbers on the variable speed limit signs absolutely nobody paid any attention to them–which was probably wise, because when the speed limit was posted at 35 mph it would have been suicidal to go that slowly when everyone else was going close to 70 mph (VDOT began the lower speed limit well to the west of the area where the work was and so most drivers saw no reason to comply). The theory was that if people had obeyed the lower limits it would have worked like a funnel that clogs up or overflows if you dump in too much stuff at once but that works smoothly if you feed it at a slower pace. But nobody knows if it would have worked because everybody ignored it. I kind of think that if a variable speed limit were used in conjunction with setting a speed limit that most drivers think is reasonable, perhaps more people might take notice when the limit is reduced and conclude that there's something unusual up ahead.
This is why I like a variable speed + VMS setup, like the NJ Turnpike and PA Turnpike around the Sideling Hill area, is a good idea. Posting a random slower speed limit is something that will probably get easily ignored. Posting the lower limit with a flashing "Reduce Speed: Congestion/Fog/Zombies/Whatever" at least gives people less doubt as to why there's suddenly a lower limit. Assuming they're paying attention to begin with, it also puts them on guard for trouble ahead, theoretically improving safety. Of course the best way to get people to slow down is to park a cruiser with lights flashing in the shoulder...
Does police enforcement work differently in PA? In NY, if the lights are flashing, it means the trooper is too busy writing a ticket to notice the speed of anyone on the road.
Quote from: deanej on December 11, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
Does police enforcement work differently in PA? In NY, if the lights are flashing, it means the trooper is too busy writing a ticket to notice the speed of anyone on the road.
Can't speak on a state-by-state basis, but I've certainly seen troopers parked along the shoulder clocking drivers while running their lights; I always assumed the officer was just being safe and avoiding a rear-end collision.
In Pennslyvania only state police are allowed to use radar/lidar/laser/etc...local and county cops have to make do with Vascar.
Quote from: Compulov on December 11, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
This is why I like a variable speed + VMS setup, like the NJ Turnpike and PA Turnpike around the Sideling Hill area, is a good idea. Posting a random slower speed limit is something that will probably get easily ignored. Posting the lower limit with a flashing "Reduce Speed: Congestion/Fog/Zombies/Whatever" at least gives people less doubt as to why there's suddenly a lower limit.
Zombies? +1
Variable speed limits (which really
are variable) is one of the things I like best about the New Jersey Turnpike.
Only gripe is that the maximum limit ought to be 75 MPH or maybe even 80, at least south of Interchange 10 (except in construction zones).
Quote from: deanej on December 11, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
Does police enforcement work differently in PA? In NY, if the lights are flashing, it means the trooper is too busy writing a ticket to notice the speed of anyone on the road.
That's also true in PA; however, it doesn't stop idiots doing 75 in the left lane from slamming on their brakes when they see a trooper on the right, even if they're at no risk of getting pulled over. It's nice to engineer things based on what people *should* do, but I figure it's better to engineer things on what people *will* do.
I haven't driven it yet, but just looking at it from I-464 and with the incident that happened during its construction, (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6995.0) the new Jordan Bridge looks pretty terrifying.
I experienced a new scariest bridge this summer: The one from Cairo, IL to Kentucky, just upstream of the mouth of the Ohio River. High, narrow, with very insubstantial-looking guardrails, and a 90° turn in the approach on the Kentucky side. The fact that it was nearing dusk, and we'd just driven through Cairo (which is creepy anyway), and had to do it twice (I was Froggie-ing the state of Kentucky) didn't help matters any.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I experienced a new scariest bridge this summer: The one from Cairo, IL to Kentucky, just upstream of the mouth of the Ohio River. High, narrow, with very insubstantial-looking guardrails, and a 90° turn in the approach on the Kentucky side. The fact that it was nearing dusk, and we'd just driven through Cairo (which is creepy anyway), and had to do it twice (I was Froggie-ing the state of Kentucky) didn't help matters any.
The only time I've driven across that bridge, it was my first day driving a box truck for work, and there was road construction at the bridge. Trucks had about one foot of clearance between each other.
My scariest that I've driven: 1: The Cornwall Covered Bridge (CT 128). One lane, and it reminds me of the bridge that collapsed in Beetlejuice. 2. The old Sikorsky Bridge on the Merritt Parkway when it rained. Scariest I didn't drive on (too young): The old 7 Mile Bridge in The Florida Keys. Two lanes, barely wide enough for 2 box trucks to pass side by side.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on December 30, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
My scariest that I've driven: 1: The Cornwall Covered Bridge (CT 128). One lane, and it reminds me of the bridge that collapsed in Beetlejuice. 2. The old Sikorsky Bridge on the Merritt Parkway when it rained. Scariest I didn't drive on (too young): The old 7 Mile Bridge in The Florida Keys. Two lanes, barely wide enough for 2 box trucks to pass side by side.
#1: Come on, man. There are dozens of unrefurbished covered bridges that look like that one.
#2: Any open steel grate bridge with no shoulders on a high-speed roadway qualifies, as well.
Not driven across, but the old Hungerford footbridge in London was pretty awful on the fear stakes - narrow and very busy walkway with an unprotected drop into the Thames on one side. Oh, and attached to a busy railway bridge so it shook every time a train was crossing - which was often as there was a train about every 90 seconds. Since replaced with two unattached footbridges (one each side of the rail bridge) - double improvement as the original was on the side with the less great view - you can now cross the river there looking south to Parliament, rather than east to the fairly drab part of central London between the two cities.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on December 30, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
My scariest that I've driven: 1: The Cornwall Covered Bridge (CT 128). One lane, and it reminds me of the bridge that collapsed in Beetlejuice. 2. The old Sikorsky Bridge on the Merritt Parkway when it rained. Scariest I didn't drive on (too young): The old 7 Mile Bridge in The Florida Keys. Two lanes, barely wide enough for 2 box trucks to pass side by side.
I too was a kid when I rode over the old Seven Mile Bridge. That was a white knuckle ride just for me. I can't imagine how it was for my mom, who was driving.
Quote from: Road Hog on January 01, 2013, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on December 30, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
My scariest that I've driven: 1: The Cornwall Covered Bridge (CT 128). One lane, and it reminds me of the bridge that collapsed in Beetlejuice. 2. The old Sikorsky Bridge on the Merritt Parkway when it rained. Scariest I didn't drive on (too young): The old 7 Mile Bridge in The Florida Keys. Two lanes, barely wide enough for 2 box trucks to pass side by side.
I too was a kid when I rode over the old Seven Mile Bridge. That was a white knuckle ride just for me. I can't imagine how it was for my mom, who was driving.
I guess the name itself says it all!!!
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm a little concerned about the condition of the I-95/US 15-301 Bridge over Lake Marion in South Carolina.
Two separate bridges for two lanes that look like they're getting close to exceeding capacity, and don't look like they've been inspected in over a decade.
:paranoid:
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 27, 2012, 11:46:45 PM
Pretty much any bridge on the infamous "Road to Hana" on the island of Maui, HI. And after several of these death traps, you get to Hana and think "Really? That's it?!"
Hey, all the bridges are short, and you just take turns crossing them so it's just you on each one-lane bridge. But that can get old when you get to the 42nd one-lane bridge in less than 30 miles.
Hana is a nice little village, with gorgeous red and black sand beaches. But it's really the journey rather than the destination that matters most.
5. The I-43 Tower Bridge in Green Bay, at night, in January, always wondering if the pavement was frozen or not. Did this on a regular basis.
4. Highway 47 over the Missouri River in eastern Missouri. Super old and narrow cantilever which I think has been rated structurally deficient for some time now.
3. The Black Hawk bridge between Wisconsin and Iowa
2. The Mackinac Bridge. On a clear day in summer with no wind, it still terrified the crap out of me.
1. A bridge in rural Queensland, Australia, on a tour bus, on which the wheels of the bus had to ride on top of the guardrails in order to fit. Many grown adults were closing their eyes and cowering.
Quote from: oscar on March 17, 2013, 03:07:18 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 27, 2012, 11:46:45 PM
Pretty much any bridge on the infamous "Road to Hana" on the island of Maui, HI. And after several of these death traps, you get to Hana and think "Really? That's it?!"
Hey, all the bridges are short, and you just take turns crossing them so it's just you on each one-lane bridge. But that can get old when you get to the 42nd one-lane bridge in less than 30 miles.
Hana is a nice little village, with gorgeous red and black sand beaches. But it's really the journey rather than the destination that matters most.
The journey was fine on the way to Hana, but the bridges were no big deal. Now, on the way back, I got in a pocket of local traffic (easy to tell, they were all beat up pickup trucks). The locals take the road at 40-50 mph and move! :bigass: That road is a blast at 50 mph.
Still, I took great delight in taking turns at the bridges and pissing off a lady in a drop-top Mustang who didn't want to wait her turn at the bridges. :evilgrin:
Quote from: Brandon on April 22, 2013, 11:14:45 AMlocal traffic (easy to tell, they were all beat up pickup trucks). The locals take the road at 40-50 mph
it seems to be a universal that locals drive their pickup trucks at 40-50mph.
this is also the case on, say, US-36 in Kansas.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 22, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: Brandon on April 22, 2013, 11:14:45 AMlocal traffic (easy to tell, they were all beat up pickup trucks). The locals take the road at 40-50 mph
it seems to be a universal that locals drive their pickup trucks at 40-50mph.
....
Especially when the speed limit is 65—70 mph.
Quote from: Mr_Northside on June 16, 2010, 12:29:37 PM
It had been closed to vehicles for at least 6 years already (So I'm already a bit off-topic, especially considering there's a thread about walking across bridges...), but 2 days after my last hike across the Davis Ave. bridge (connecting Riverview Park & Brighton Heights in Pittsburgh's Northside) the breaking news was that it was completely closed and emergency demolition contracts had to be issued because it was in immediate danger of collapse. (They imploded it about 2 weeks later).
I'm still a little pissed about the whole situation.
OT-But when I was a kid, there was an abandined house on Woods Run below the Davis Ave bridge, the kids would drop rocks on the slate roof, whoever could drop a rock that would go through the wood decking planks under the slate "won".
My scariest bridge: Dad drove the family across the old Bates Street Bridge in Pittsurgh, early 1970's
The scariest bridge I ever drove on was the Mt Hope Bridge in Rhode Island connecting Bristol and Portsmouth. It is a very narrow 2 lane bridge that is 130 feet above the water. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/MtHopeBridge.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Hope_Bridge
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 22, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: Brandon on April 22, 2013, 11:14:45 AMlocal traffic (easy to tell, they were all beat up pickup trucks). The locals take the road at 40-50 mph
it seems to be a universal that locals drive their pickup trucks at 40-50mph.
this is also the case on, say, US-36 in Kansas.
Only over a certain age. When I was in high school along US-36 in Kansas, my friends typically did about 85—100 mph.
The Sellwood Bridge in Portland, thankfully it is being replaced.
The Hood River Bridge between Hood River, OR and Bingen/White Salmon, WA is a close second.
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2012, 11:27:56 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I experienced a new scariest bridge this summer: The one from Cairo, IL to Kentucky, just upstream of the mouth of the Ohio River. High, narrow, with very insubstantial-looking guardrails, and a 90° turn in the approach on the Kentucky side. The fact that it was nearing dusk, and we'd just driven through Cairo (which is creepy anyway), and had to do it twice (I was Froggie-ing the state of Kentucky) didn't help matters any.
The only time I've driven across that bridge, it was my first day driving a box truck for work, and there was road construction at the bridge. Trucks had about one foot of clearance between each other.
There's a thread in the regional forum about what a New Madrid earthquake would do to some of the infrastructure around Memphis and areas north and south. The first thing I thought of was this bridge, and the near identical one over the Mississippi just on the other side of Cairo. I'm guessing they'd both come down pretty easy.
New York Times: To Gephyrophobiacs, Bridges Are a Terror (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/nyregion/08bridge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&) (Jan. 8, 2008)
Royal Gorge Bridge is the scariest bridge I've ever driven across.
http://highestbridges.com/wiki/images/thumb/b/b4/6RoyalGorgeBridge.jpg/750px-6RoyalGorgeBridge.jpg
This one:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pDcElivMD1c/UV-g-_j5uwI/AAAAAAAAH8o/Eh8h8zWTHUs/w958-h719-no/IMG_0954.JPG)
Along the Cape Tribulation Road in the far north of Queensland.
Quote from: realjd on June 17, 2013, 04:10:31 PM
Along the Cape Tribulation Road in the far north of Queensland.
You completely win. If I had to cross that, I'd look for alternate routes. If I really, really, had to, I'd make passengers walk across one at a time and hand carry all the heavy cargo, down to the spare tire before driving.
the bridge looks sturdy enough. it's just very, very narrow.
I described a bridge like that, only narrower, less well-built and in the middle of nowhere in a third world country and got shot down as a wuss.
The newly widened Huey P. Long bridge opened to traffic this weekend, so scratch this one off the "scariest bridge" list. :clap:
Quote from: english si on June 17, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
I described a bridge like that, only narrower, less well-built and in the middle of nowhere in a third world country and got shot down as a wuss.
Yeah, but you didn't supply pictures. :D
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 17, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
the bridge looks sturdy enough. it's just very, very narrow.
I agree, it looks quite sturdy, and I've definitely driven on bridges with less horizontal clearance.
Quote from: kkt on June 17, 2013, 04:56:09 PM
Quote from: realjd on June 17, 2013, 04:10:31 PM
Along the Cape Tribulation Road in the far north of Queensland.
You completely win. If I had to cross that, I'd look for alternate routes. If I really, really, had to, I'd make passengers walk across one at a time and hand carry all the heavy cargo, down to the spare tire before driving.
If I had been someplace deserted and not on a relatively busy road, or if I had been in a country with dodgy infrastructure, I'd have been more hesitant. It felt rickety because the logs that make up the bridge deck were bumpy and loud but it didn't feel unsturdy while driving across. The bridge was actually under construction when I went across so they had workers directing traffic (one side went, then the other side, then traffic was blocked for 10 minutes so they could do some work).
Just in case y'all are curious as to the exact location, the bridge is here according to the EXIF data: 16.140000° S 145.430667° E. That area was a fantastic place to visit and there were a number of great drives around there.
The Bonner Bridge in the Outer Banks. A 2.7 mile, two-lane bridge built in 1963, with 10' wide lanes. Scares me every time I go over it.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I experienced a new scariest bridge this summer: The one from Cairo, IL to Kentucky, just upstream of the mouth of the Ohio River. High, narrow, with very insubstantial-looking guardrails, and a 90° turn in the approach on the Kentucky side. The fact that it was nearing dusk, and we'd just driven through Cairo (which is creepy anyway), and had to do it twice (I was Froggie-ing the state of Kentucky) didn't help matters any.
I vaguely remember those bridges, but Cairo itself was far scarier.
Far worse for me was the Irvin S. Cobb Bridge in nearby Paducah, alone, late at night, in very misty air. The bridge is very narrow -- 19.7 feet, says Wikipedia -- and its two-lane metal grid deck was soaking wet in the mist. It's a mile long, and it's very dark out there over the sea-like expanse of the Ohio, and my Honda jumped back and forth trying to choose a slot on the grid. It felt constantly like rhe car was just going to lurch far enough to the right that they were going to drag me up in Baton Rouge.
I took I-24 back, to preserve my sanity.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 28, 2013, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I experienced a new scariest bridge this summer: The one from Cairo, IL to Kentucky, just upstream of the mouth of the Ohio River. High, narrow, with very insubstantial-looking guardrails, and a 90° turn in the approach on the Kentucky side. The fact that it was nearing dusk, and we'd just driven through Cairo (which is creepy anyway), and had to do it twice (I was Froggie-ing the state of Kentucky) didn't help matters any.
I vaguely remember those bridges, but Cairo itself was far scarier.
Far worse for me was the Irvin S. Cobb Bridge in nearby Paducah, alone, late at night, in very misty air. The bridge is very narrow -- 19.7 feet, says Wikipedia -- and its two-lane metal grid deck was soaking wet in the mist. It's a mile long, and it's very dark out there over the sea-like expanse of the Ohio, and my Honda jumped back and forth trying to choose a slot on the grid. It felt constantly like rhe car was just going to lurch far enough to the right that they were going to drag me up in Baton Rouge.
I took I-24 back, to preserve my sanity.
Just looked it up in GSV. Damn, and I thought the Burlington-Bristol was narrow. No, I don't blame you in the least.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 28, 2013, 09:01:08 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 26, 2012, 07:50:48 AM
I experienced a new scariest bridge this summer: The one from Cairo, IL to Kentucky, just upstream of the mouth of the Ohio River. High, narrow, with very insubstantial-looking guardrails, and a 90° turn in the approach on the Kentucky side. The fact that it was nearing dusk, and we'd just driven through Cairo (which is creepy anyway), and had to do it twice (I was Froggie-ing the state of Kentucky) didn't help matters any.
I vaguely remember those bridges, but Cairo itself was far scarier.
Far worse for me was the Irvin S. Cobb Bridge in nearby Paducah, alone, late at night, in very misty air. The bridge is very narrow -- 19.7 feet, says Wikipedia -- and its two-lane metal grid deck was soaking wet in the mist. It's a mile long, and it's very dark out there over the sea-like expanse of the Ohio, and my Honda jumped back and forth trying to choose a slot on the grid. It felt constantly like rhe car was just going to lurch far enough to the right that they were going to drag me up in Baton Rouge.
I took I-24 back, to preserve my sanity.
Reminds me of this one I drove across in Australia:
http://goo.gl/maps/Bh7ns
It even has a similar sharp turn.
The I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna River is unnerving because of it's pitiful barriers separating 60 mph traffic and a watery death 90 ft down. Although the view of the bluffs down the river and the two bridges to the south helps negate that.
Quote from: Alex4897 on September 24, 2013, 10:16:24 PM
The I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna River is unnerving because of it's pitiful barriers separating 60 mph traffic and a watery death 90 ft down. Although the view of the bluffs down the river and the two bridges to the south helps negate that.
Very narrow shoulders, and the winds funnel down through the cliffs to make for a very harrowing experience when driving a lighter vehicle. I've had my share of white-knuckle rides across there just trying to keep the car away from the median or a truck.
Mine has almost all of yours beat.
Quote from: bugo on September 25, 2013, 01:24:53 AM
Mine has almost all of yours beat.
yeah, I'm gonna review 9 pages of posts to refresh my memory. I'm sure it was scary. good job making it across alive. yade yada.
Quote from: mrose on April 22, 2013, 05:04:11 AM
5. The I-43 Tower Bridge in Green Bay, at night, in January, always wondering if the pavement was frozen or not. Did this on a regular basis.
I guess my feelings about this one were somewhat justified.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2013%2F09%2F26%2Farticle-2433876-184C245400000578-750_634x371.jpg&hash=e675e533fac929b298440b89bca06e65f14027cd)
Quote from: mrose on September 27, 2013, 02:17:47 AM
Quote from: mrose on April 22, 2013, 05:04:11 AM
5. The I-43 Tower Bridge in Green Bay, at night, in January, always wondering if the pavement was frozen or not. Did this on a regular basis.
I guess my feelings about this one were somewhat justified.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2013%2F09%2F26%2Farticle-2433876-184C245400000578-750_634x371.jpg&hash=e675e533fac929b298440b89bca06e65f14027cd)
you know that feeling you get when you go over a big dip and you get that feeling in your stomach...
There is a bridge(s) on US 701 between Georgetown and Conway, SC I had crossed once that had some dips in them. They looked like they were about to fall down at any moment.
Just recently, I had to cross the US Route 22 bridge between Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. If the dangerous sharp curves on the Pennsylvania side weren't bad enough, the bridge was basically "cut in half" due to construction. One VERY narrow lane on each side! YIKES! :(
I wasn't old enough to drive yet, but my dad drove me over the old suspension bridges crossing the Mississippi at Prairie du Chien.
It would have been within a couple years of it's demolition, and it seemed VERY rickety. If my recollection is correct, the deck was either plank, or (crappy) asphalt over plank.
Market Street Bridge, over the Ohio River from downtown Steubenville to WV.
Grating the whole way, 11 foot clearance, rather narrow
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F59%2FMarket_Street_Bridge_at_Steubenville%2C_interior.jpg&hash=bb223650775a6fa03b2ac89c16b96d48f7924c92)
Quote from: Buck87 on October 26, 2013, 08:26:11 PM
Market Street Bridge, over the Ohio River from downtown Steubenville to WV.
Grating the whole way, 11 foot clearance, rather narrow
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F59%2FMarket_Street_Bridge_at_Steubenville%2C_interior.jpg&hash=bb223650775a6fa03b2ac89c16b96d48f7924c92)
I looked at it on Google Maps and somehow was not surprised that it was closed when the satellite and street view pics were taken.
Quote from: oscar on June 15, 2010, 05:07:55 PM
Try this rickety-looking bridge (one of the Wainiha River crossings on HI 560 in northern Kauai):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawaiihighways.com%2Fwainiha-main-bridge-sideview-large.jpg&hash=d881293ab5e7a9d0b7dea4a94397e5395802993f)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawaiihighways.com%2Fwainiha-main-bridge-endview-large.jpg&hash=dd85438fa470926ca50fc91a85e57623a80425a7)
I've heard that this bridge was later temporarily replaced, or reinforced, pending construction of a permanent replacement. Overweight loads weakened it to the point that even a small firetruck could collapse it (and there's no alternate route to the northwest corner of Kauai).
Here's what it looks like now. The steel reinforcement under the deck, and especially the side and guard rails, make it look much less scary. Still an 8-ton weight limit, though (just enough for a small fully-loaded fire truck).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawaiihighways.com%2F%253Cbr%2520%2F%253Ewainiha3-bridge-2013_DSC0550.jpg&hash=1196893fa15b8695eb315d2a6d1d38b65bbea39e)
I drove over this a few times. Just off HWY 30, NE of Missouri Valley Iowa.
Unfortunately, a tornado slid the bridge off it's east abutment and the impact with the river bottom destroyed it totally.
Probably one of the lowest number of pounds of steel per foot of bridge ever erected, still, I would bet more than a few farmers drove some wagon, loaded far in excess of the posted limit and it held.
(first time for posting a picture here, if I crash the internet, please accept my apologies)
(appreciate the help there, wasn't so bad afterall)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthebridgehunter.areavoices.com%2Ffiles%2F2012%2F07%2FHarrison-County-177540a.jpg&hash=5d27b0558bcf170c22e1b82c676d1ab33460fe93)
Post the image address, not the page address.
Near Great Cacapon, WV.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F131208C%2Fezimba12455848351900.jpg&hash=9275154ca8e9a847bb9d0ba0c8d90b223449910f)
I imagine driving some of these bridges was no fun in the 70s, when everyone drove land yachts.
Quote from: Thing 342 on December 07, 2013, 11:52:06 PM
Near Great Cacapon, WV.
No street view but in the satellite image (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Great+Cacapon,+WV&hl=en&ll=39.607067,-78.290725&spn=0.00057,0.001031&sll=40.697488,-73.979681&sspn=0.570567,1.056061&oq=great+cac&t=h&hnear=Great+Cacapon,+Morgan,+West+Virginia&z=20) the water appears to be a bit lower. So, guessing this was during a flood? Lucky the bridge didn't wash out if the water came up that high.
Quote from: Duke87 on December 08, 2013, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: Thing 342 on December 07, 2013, 11:52:06 PM
Near Great Cacapon, WV.
No street view but in the satellite image (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Great+Cacapon,+WV&hl=en&ll=39.607067,-78.290725&spn=0.00057,0.001031&sll=40.697488,-73.979681&sspn=0.570567,1.056061&oq=great+cac&t=h&hnear=Great+Cacapon,+Morgan,+West+Virginia&z=20) the water appears to be a bit lower. So, guessing this was during a flood? Lucky the bridge didn't wash out if the water came up that high.
Based on what I saw from the rest of the river, this seemed to be the normal level.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3857
The scariest bridge that I've ever driven across is the Ironton Russell Bridge connecting Russell ky with ironton oh. Thankfully the state of ohio is replacing it a new bridge expected to open in 2015.
Driving back to Ohio U one winter from Pittsburgh, I took the "wrong" way (instead of taking our usual "safe" way of US 19 S > I-70 W > I-77 S and coming into Athens from US 50) and ended up fighting through a horrible snowstorm on Ohio Route 13, which is terrifying and scary and windy and in the middle of nowhere. Not to mention I was driving alone, and it was only starting to snow harder. I got detoured by some guy who threw flares onto the road, wearing coveralls and a big floppy jacket, and he told me the only way I could go any further south was to cross this quaint-but-at-the-time-terrifying covered bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/nlgXN).
I crossed the bridge, listened to it shaking, drove THROUGH a person's farm, and after a few miles of winding very carefully through hills and roads with no guard rails to speak of the snow, I coasted down a hill at no more than 2 miles per hour and manage to drift into a frozen creek bed, stranding the front right wheel of my car over the lip of it. Two crossbow hunters in a massive truck luckily came by, saw that I was stuck and shaken up and crying, and hooked a strap up to my chassis and pulled me out. I was so thankful but so scared!
I will never, EVER, visit Trimble, OH, again.
Quote from: pghgal_90 on January 19, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
this quaint-but-at-the-time-terrifying covered bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/nlgXN).
Your link isn't working for me.
Quote from: Duke87 on January 19, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: pghgal_90 on January 19, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
this quaint-but-at-the-time-terrifying covered bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/nlgXN).
Your link isn't working for me.
Alternate: http://goo.gl/maps/dSLT7
It's not which bridge it was, but when I drove across it, and I don't think this even counts as a bridge (they built the land up around it; there's a railroad paralleling it on the west), but it was still across a large body of water, so I'm counting it.
Here it is, (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=North+Dakota&hl=en&ll=47.612644,-101.266479&spn=0.541583,1.352692&sll=43.591651,-96.579146&sspn=0.072733,0.169086&hnear=North+Dakota&t=m&z=10&layer=c&cbll=47.597831,-101.262618&panoid=equjna4_vgd7Sbn7rRUPlQ&cbp=12,174.79,,0,-2.47) on US 83 in North Dakota. On the left is Lake Audubon, on the right is the gigantic Lake Sacagawea. Last April a gigantic ice storm hit the whole region, and it just so happened that I was stuck in North Dakota when it happened. I tried to return home, but it wasn't easy to do, and this "bridge" ended up being the scariest part of my trip.
Those wires on the eastern side of the highway were covered in shards of ice, and the wind kept blowing them every which way; toward the lakes, at the towers, and at the highway. Not to mention the highway was already covered in ice, so it was nearly impossible to control the car. Pretty much every car on the road, including mine, was slowed down to about 25 mph to avoid losing control of their car and falling in the lake while getting hit by ice shards.
I'm used to driving in winter weather by now, but this was terrifying. This part of the road is otherwise very beautiful and a joy to drive.
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The old Jamestown Bridge in RI was scary. It was a very narrow, very high two lane cantilever truss bridge with steep inclines from both directions. Traffic used to back up on it all the time, especially in the summer. I went over it once in 1991 before the new bridge was opened, didn't like it at all, the perspective you get going up to the main span makes it feel like you are driving on a ribbon into the sky.
At the top of the span there was a steel grate surface. One of my coworkers used to drive over it each day to go to work. A couple of times he got stuck in traffic at the top of the span and a truck would pass him in the opposite direction, the whole bridge would shake and sway.
It closed in 1992 when they opened the new bridge, but it took them till 2006 to demolish it. I'd drive by it every day on the way to work. I wanted to watch it being demolished but couldn't get out of work that day. That was weird the day of demolition, going to work and it was there, coming home, the main span was gone (gotta love dynamite).
There is a good writeup, photo gallery, and people's post of the bridge at this website:
www.artinruins.com/arch/?id=rip&pr=jamestown#top12
Quote from: doogie1303 on February 03, 2014, 09:54:54 PM
The old Jamestown Bridge in RI was scary. It was a very narrow, very high two lane cantilever truss bridge with steep inclines from both directions. Traffic used to back up on it all the time, especially in the summer. I went over it once in 1991 before the new bridge was opened, didn't like it at all, the perspective you get going up to the main span makes it feel like you are driving on a ribbon into the sky.
At the top of the span there was a steel grate surface. One of my coworkers used to drive over it each day to go to work. A couple of times he got stuck in traffic at the top of the span and a truck would pass him in the opposite direction, the whole bridge would shake and sway.
When I was growing up my grandparents loved to go for drives and one of my grandfather's go-to places was Jamestown. I remember many times my grandfather would open the door while sitting in traffic and ask us if we wanted to look down through the grate.
My greatest 'white knuckle' bridge ride was the Sagamore Bridge in Massachusetts. Four extremely narrow lanes (two each way) with enough traffic to warrant six lanes. It should be twinned and then it would be a very comfortable three lanes in one direction, with the twin span carrying three lanes the other way.
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on February 06, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
My greatest 'white knuckle' bridge ride was the Sagamore Bridge in Massachusetts. Four extremely narrow lanes (two each way) with enough traffic to warrant six lanes. It should be twinned and then it would be a very comfortable three lanes in one direction, with the twin span carrying three lanes the other way.
Mike
The Sagamore's "twin" is the Bourne Bridge. it's a few miles down the canal and also carries two lanes each way!
I don't know that it is really scary to me, but I've never been on a bridge that moved as much as the "AFX Flex-Track" Wheeling Suspension Bridge. I recall standing on the sidewalk and watching the bridge deck ripple in waves as cars passed.
I don't like to watch bridges being demolished. Call it hyperbole, but watching a truss bridge being blown up is akin to watching a snuff film to me.
I drove I-10 across the bay in Pensacola this past weekend and had a hard time keeping the car straight in the wind... one of my scarier driving moments.
Quote from: Jim on June 15, 2010, 08:38:38 PM
The bridge at Matanuska Glacier:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Falaska-20010606-30%2Fjdt%2F21%2FP6210044-640.JPG&hash=2d6dd4a1d06ce844f10e5f42ff486eb1d6693995)
But realistically, I was more concerned that the road would slide off the side of the hill on the other side.
That looks like a roller coaster
I will not make the mistake again of getting in the far left EZ-Pass lane at the tolls EB for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge (US 50/301), putting me right up against opposing traffic on the 3 lane WB (primarily) bridge:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.004295,-76.398872&spn=0.000017,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.004133,-76.400807&panoid=emCWTfVYiKj9jtkxdvq_6A&cbp=12,166.11,,0,2.36 (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.004295,-76.398872&spn=0.000017,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.004133,-76.400807&panoid=emCWTfVYiKj9jtkxdvq_6A&cbp=12,166.11,,0,2.36)
Keep to the right.
I'm also glad someone nominated the old "Rickety Bridge" on NJ 147 in North Wildwood (since demolished) further back on this thread.
I love this thread, and all the scary contenders, but I think actually having driven over the one I posted above, and then knowing a tornado destroyed it later on, makes mine for me, still the scariest.
I haven't driven over too many in this thread, Chesapeake and Wheeling spring to mind. Ches was damn narrow for the height above the water, but I loved Wheeling, I think it being a Roebling made a difference. If it does collapse with me on it, well, I'm the guy that was snuffed on the Wheeling bridge. I've had chances at far less flattering forms of immortality . . .
:eyebrow:
First Sunshine Skyway (modern) crossing was scary. Flat, flat, flat, flat, ABRUPT INCLINE A MILE OUT TO SEA, decline, flat, flat, flat, flat.
Quote from: Roadrunner75 on July 05, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
I will not make the mistake again of getting in the far left EZ-Pass lane at the tolls EB for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge (US 50/301), putting me right up against opposing traffic on the 3 lane WB (primarily) bridge:
Yeah... me and my friend pulled that move on our way down to Chincoteague last month. Usually the VMS are pretty good about letting you know in advance if there will be "2-way traffic" on the bridge. We erred on the side of using the left "Express" EZ-Pass lane until we saw that traffic was light at the toll plaza, and cut over to an empty lane there and used the original 2-lane span.
Two bridges come to mind:
1) Deer Isle Suspension Bridge in Maine: had the "pleasure" of driving over it before a much-needed rehabilitation project took place. The very narrow two-lane crumbling concrete bridge deck coupled with rust-covered suspension cables, the high clearance, and high winds made my heart beat a little faster that day.
2) the old Sikorsky Bridge carrying the Merritt Parkway over the Housatonic River in Connecticut: this span always bothered me (and thousands of others) on rainy days, when you felt your wheels slip on the open grid bridge deck and you swore you were headed into the adjoining lane. I was glad when that bridge met its demise.
Coincidentally, both of these bridges were part of state routes numbered 15.
The I-40 Arkansas River bridge in Webbers Falls, OK is a bit unnerving just because it collapsed a few years ago. Nothing is scary about the bridge itself - it's just the history that is frightening.
Quote from: bugo on July 06, 2014, 10:15:44 PM
The I-40 Arkansas River bridge in Webbers Falls, OK is a bit unnerving just because it collapsed a few years ago. Nothing is scary about the bridge itself - it's just the history that is frightening.
I've had the same feeling (not worried by the bridge itself, but just the history and its predecessor's collapse) every time over the Schoharie Creek bridge on the Thruway--I remember on family trips driving over the old one, using the detour route while it was being replaced, still being able to find relics of the detour route today, and feeling something weird driving across the replacement. A family friend in Dolgeville and another in Little Falls told us about the mess while the detour was put in place, and so on.
I drove with my learner's permit on the Tobin Bridge and have done the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel many times as far back as when I was 17 driving the family Chevy G20 van and never felt scared, but that I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna always felt unnerving, as I think I mentioned somewhere upthread.
Quote from: yankee.peddler on July 06, 2014, 03:56:41 PM2) the old Sikorsky Bridge carrying the Merritt Parkway over the Housatonic River in Connecticut: this span always bothered me (and thousands of others) on rainy days, when you felt your wheels slip on the open grid bridge deck and you swore you were headed into the adjoining lane. I was glad when that bridge met its demise.
I can't believe I've forgotten about this, the only downhill, high-speed, metal-grid-deck bridge I ever knew. There was a time where I owned a series of leaf-like little Hondas that in the wind and rain required the perfect balance of restraint, focus, and prayer to get down that bridge.
It's wider now, but in those days it was two narrow lanes, and as any Merritt driver knows, there's little patience for defensive or cautious driving around there. If you chose to creep down that bridge in the right lane it was usually with someone's brights in your mirror from a car length behind.
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 06, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: bugo on July 06, 2014, 10:15:44 PM
The I-40 Arkansas River bridge in Webbers Falls, OK is a bit unnerving just because it collapsed a few years ago. Nothing is scary about the bridge itself - it's just the history that is frightening.
I've had the same feeling (not worried by the bridge itself, but just the history and its predecessor's collapse) every time over the Schoharie Creek bridge on the Thruway--I remember on family trips driving over the old one, using the detour route while it was being replaced, still being able to find relics of the detour route today, and feeling something weird driving across the replacement. A family friend in Dolgeville and another in Little Falls told us about the mess while the detour was put in place, and so on.
I drove with my learner's permit on the Tobin Bridge and have done the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel many times as far back as when I was 17 driving the family Chevy G20 van and never felt scared, but that I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna always felt unnerving, as I think I mentioned somewhere upthread.
The collapse of the original Schoharie Creek bridge is VERY well understood, there is nothing mysterious about why it washed out. It is very unlikely the replacement bridge would be as poorly designed and experience the same protracted incompetent and neglectful maintenance and inspections the first one did.
Quote from: Jardine on July 07, 2014, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 06, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: bugo on July 06, 2014, 10:15:44 PM
The I-40 Arkansas River bridge in Webbers Falls, OK is a bit unnerving just because it collapsed a few years ago. Nothing is scary about the bridge itself - it's just the history that is frightening.
I've had the same feeling (not worried by the bridge itself, but just the history and its predecessor's collapse) every time over the Schoharie Creek bridge on the Thruway--I remember on family trips driving over the old one, using the detour route while it was being replaced, still being able to find relics of the detour route today, and feeling something weird driving across the replacement. A family friend in Dolgeville and another in Little Falls told us about the mess while the detour was put in place, and so on.
I drove with my learner's permit on the Tobin Bridge and have done the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel many times as far back as when I was 17 driving the family Chevy G20 van and never felt scared, but that I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna always felt unnerving, as I think I mentioned somewhere upthread.
The collapse of the original Schoharie Creek bridge is VERY well understood, there is nothing mysterious about why it washed out. It is very unlikely the replacement bridge would be as poorly designed and experience the same protracted incompetent and neglectful maintenance and inspections the first one did.
I know, but there's still for whatever reason that weird feeling knowing the old one collapsed while open to traffic with loss of life. It's irrational, I know, but a feeling I've felt driving over it nonetheless.
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 08, 2014, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: Jardine on July 07, 2014, 11:50:05 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 06, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
Quote from: bugo on July 06, 2014, 10:15:44 PM
The I-40 Arkansas River bridge in Webbers Falls, OK is a bit unnerving just because it collapsed a few years ago. Nothing is scary about the bridge itself - it's just the history that is frightening.
I've had the same feeling (not worried by the bridge itself, but just the history and its predecessor's collapse) every time over the Schoharie Creek bridge on the Thruway--I remember on family trips driving over the old one, using the detour route while it was being replaced, still being able to find relics of the detour route today, and feeling something weird driving across the replacement. A family friend in Dolgeville and another in Little Falls told us about the mess while the detour was put in place, and so on.
I drove with my learner's permit on the Tobin Bridge and have done the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel many times as far back as when I was 17 driving the family Chevy G20 van and never felt scared, but that I-95 bridge over the Susquehanna always felt unnerving, as I think I mentioned somewhere upthread.
The collapse of the original Schoharie Creek bridge is VERY well understood, there is nothing mysterious about why it washed out. It is very unlikely the replacement bridge would be as poorly designed and experience the same protracted incompetent and neglectful maintenance and inspections the first one did.
I know, but there's still for whatever reason that weird feeling knowing the old one collapsed while open to traffic with loss of life. It's irrational, I know, but a feeling I've felt driving over it nonetheless.
I get a little chill from time to time driving over the Mianus River bridge on the Connecticut Turnpike for the same reason. People don't want to live in the murder house, even though you aren't going to catch murder being there.
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 08, 2014, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: Jardine on July 07, 2014, 11:50:05 PM
The collapse of the original Schoharie Creek bridge is VERY well understood, there is nothing mysterious about why it washed out. It is very unlikely the replacement bridge would be as poorly designed and experience the same protracted incompetent and neglectful maintenance and inspections the first one did.
I know, but there's still for whatever reason that weird feeling knowing the old one collapsed while open to traffic with loss of life. It's irrational, I know, but a feeling I've felt driving over it nonetheless.
Same thing about the Webbers Falls bridge. It collapsed because a barge piloted by a sleeping captain crashed into one of the piers. No mystery there. If they had built a proper truss with no piers in the water, it wouldn't have collapsed in the first place.
Quote from: bugo on July 08, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 08, 2014, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: Jardine on July 07, 2014, 11:50:05 PM
The collapse of the original Schoharie Creek bridge is VERY well understood, there is nothing mysterious about why it washed out. It is very unlikely the replacement bridge would be as poorly designed and experience the same protracted incompetent and neglectful maintenance and inspections the first one did.
I know, but there's still for whatever reason that weird feeling knowing the old one collapsed while open to traffic with loss of life. It's irrational, I know, but a feeling I've felt driving over it nonetheless.
Same thing about the Webbers Falls bridge. It collapsed because a barge piloted by a sleeping captain crashed into one of the piers. No mystery there. If they had built a proper truss with no piers in the water, it wouldn't have collapsed in the first place.
That can happen to any bridge, even ones without piers in the water, just takes a different kind of accident.
Instead of a barge hitting a pier, a barge going off course and striking the bottom chord of the truss with a bit of cargo. The Sunshine Skyway was taken out by a cargo ship hitting the pier of a truss.
Why didn't the I-40 bridge have more concrete dolphins around the piers, i only see one in the photo.
At that spot in the river they probably weighed the options and built what they could afford at the time. Concrete Girder Bridges are safe and normally do not have issues like that. So stop blaming the design on the failure. Any bridge can fail when a ship goes off course, it just takes different variables. A truss bridge could collapse a lot easier if it were hit, look at the I-35 bridge disaster, a non redundant truss without piers in the water just collapsed due to a design flaw. Imangine if a barge loaded rather high were to go to the right or left of the main channel and strike the lower part of the truss where it comes down. That is the flaw of any low level bridge, you hit it in just the right spot, it will fall down.
For example in 1980 this bridge collapsed when a cargo ship hit the arch.
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What a pretty bridge that was. It's amazing that nobody on the ship was killed.
Quote from: Steve Gum on July 09, 2014, 10:59:38 AM
Quote from: bugo on July 08, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 08, 2014, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: Jardine on July 07, 2014, 11:50:05 PM
The collapse of the original Schoharie Creek bridge is VERY well understood, there is nothing mysterious about why it washed out. It is very unlikely the replacement bridge would be as poorly designed and experience the same protracted incompetent and neglectful maintenance and inspections the first one did.
I know, but there's still for whatever reason that weird feeling knowing the old one collapsed while open to traffic with loss of life. It's irrational, I know, but a feeling I've felt driving over it nonetheless.
Same thing about the Webbers Falls bridge. It collapsed because a barge piloted by a sleeping captain crashed into one of the piers. No mystery there. If they had built a proper truss with no piers in the water, it wouldn't have collapsed in the first place.
That can happen to any bridge, even ones without piers in the water, just takes a different kind of accident.
But this accident was not a different kind of accident and the fact is if the pier hadn't been there, the bridge would not have collapsed.
US 4 over the Hudson River north of Schuylerville, NY is pretty bad. Narrow, decent length, and steel deck. Thing shakes if a heavy vehicle drives across. Isn't even room for a centerline. ( https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1289,-73.586965,3a,75y,227.72h,72.06t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjylmTSjxDDiSi9jjVLQGkA!2e0 )
NY 5 over the Buffalo River and I-190 over the Niagara River are pretty bad if the wind is strong (as it usually is in Buffalo). Gust hits you the wrong way and you could hit someone or drop 100 feet into the water. I've been on the South Grand Island Bridge when there was two-way traffic due to construction. Not fun at all.
Tappan Zee is a nightmare and the other Hudson River crossings south of Albany aren't so great, either.
ODOT did an amazing job repairing the I-40 bridge. I looked for signs of work – fresh concrete, etc. – and not a thing looked out of place.
I remember it happened at like 10 a.m. on a Sunday and thinking I could've easily been on that bridge at some point as I was making regular trips on that route back then.
You can tell that spans 2 and 3 are the new ones. It's actually pretty easy to tell which spans collapsed because of the color of the concrete.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on August 17, 2011, 12:34:06 PM
Supposedly, people are afraid of the delaware memorial twin span bridge....only reason i see is due to the approaches being steep looking.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fc%2Fc8%2FDelawareMemorialBridgeFromSouth.jpg%2F800px-DelawareMemorialBridgeFromSouth.jpg&hash=f8ef32ab55f9fe2814655b8f9a39c09dc33f2b1a)
Lol, actually, I've walked UNDER the decks of this bridge. I live about 40 minutes from it, and I once got in on a University of Delaware Engineering trip back in 2001, where we went to the top of the tower, (NO RAILINGS on the sides by the way!) and walked on the catwalk that is directly below the road deck. It was interesting seeing from that point of view, the rising and falling of the span I was on, relative to the other span. It was one of my best memories though, I have pictures of myself at the top of the tower and under the deck.
I have to say off the top of my head, a few I use regularly, the Outerbridge Crossing and Goethals to Staten Island, NYC from NJ, and a few I use less often, the Chesapeake City Bridge, in Maryland, and the Oakland Bay Bridge in San Francisco, all for the same reason: they are TOO NARROW.
The S.F.-Oakland Bay Bridge is narrow? It has 12 foot lanes.
While it's not as terrifying as some posted previously, I was never a fan of the Chester Bridge (http://goo.gl/RWllAh) over the Mississippi River. I used to cross it quite frequently.
Between the traffic volume, weaving, and concerns of structural integrity, I'm currently a "fan" of the I-84 "Aetna Viaduct" (http://goo.gl/J6fPxa) in Hartford.
The scariest bridge I always wanted to try: the former roadways of the Harahan Bridge in Memphis (see here (http://harahanbridgeproject.com/picture-gallery) and here (http://michaelminn.net/america/railroads/memphis_harahan_bridge/)). Back when they were THE road crossing of the Mississippi River at Memphis, I understand it was a real experience.
The old Pine Bluff, AR US 79 Arkansas River bridge had lanes cantilevered from the outside of the trusses.
The bridge itself is tolerable in a big rig, but the 180 degree cloverleaf ramp for i55 north to access the Memphis Arkansas bridge is scary. Since it's a drop in speed and a non local would easily get confused.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on August 17, 2011, 12:34:06 PM
Supposedly, people are afraid of the delaware memorial twin span bridge....only reason i see is due to the approaches being steep looking.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fc%2Fc8%2FDelawareMemorialBridgeFromSouth.jpg%2F800px-DelawareMemorialBridgeFromSouth.jpg&hash=f8ef32ab55f9fe2814655b8f9a39c09dc33f2b1a)
The first time I remember crossing the Delaware Memorial Bridge was in late 1968 on a trip with my parents to Annapolis (my oldest brother was a freshman at the Naval Academy at the time) While both spans had been opened to traffic by then, I recall that the crossovers at each end connecting the roadways approaching the two spans were still in place, but blocked off.
Quote from: kkt on August 13, 2014, 09:38:19 AM
The S.F.-Oakland Bay Bridge is narrow? It has 12 foot lanes.
I was thinking of the old cantilever span. For some reason, I thought I remember it being narrow when I used it in 2004. Could be mistaken...
Quote from: njunderground on September 06, 2014, 06:44:35 AM
I was thinking of the old cantilever span. For some reason, I thought I remember it being narrow when I used it in 2004. Could be mistaken...
If you go way back to before 1963, it had six 10-foot lanes (three each way) on the top deck for cars, three lanes that I think were 12 feet wide (one each way and one reversible) for trucks and buses on the lower deck, plus the Key System railroad tracks. But from 1963 on, it was ten 12-foot lanes, five lanes on each deck.
In no particular order;
The Sellwood Bridge in Portland - Watching Concrete fall off while driving over. Only did it once.
The Chevrolet Ave. Bridge in Flint, MI. Was so bad that they closed the outer lanes to traffic, because the old trolly ran in the middle so they thought it was safer. Did that for 4 years until it was finally replaced.
The Ambassador Bridge between Detroit and Windsor. When you see rusting on the cabling, and frayed cables, you don't wish to use it again. I used the tunnel after that.
The Deception Pass Bridge in Washington. Not due to construction, but due to it being such a tourist area, so there are usually people on the tiny sidewalks on either side, and the lanes are very narrow.
I haven't been over this low-water bridge (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.958108,-78.121839&spn=0.02386,0.049567&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.958108,-78.121839&panoid=LC15mwqpcEgCcQcEqHKZOg&cbp=12,1.68,,0,20.94) (SR 624, former SR 12, over the Shenandoah River), but just going over it on the Goog scares me. It's the lack of appreciable guardrails.
Not exactly answering the question posed in the title, but I occasionally bike up CR 628 in Mansfield Township, Burlington Co., NJ and pass under the NJ Turnpike PA Extension bridges and the I-295 bridges.
The Turnpike bridges, built in the 1950s, still look relatively stable and clean as shown below:
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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7JrxYv8l.jpg&hash=0a0db12122ea21c25c0a21a7ccd219861906c253)
while the I-295 bridges, built in the 1970s, are all rusted and ugly:
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(LATE EDIT: The 295 bridges were repainted green in Aug. 2015 per the dates stenciled in on the sides of the bridge)
Quote from: NE2 on September 28, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
I haven't been over this low-water bridge (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.958108,-78.121839&spn=0.02386,0.049567&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.958108,-78.121839&panoid=LC15mwqpcEgCcQcEqHKZOg&cbp=12,1.68,,0,20.94) (SR 624, former SR 12, over the Shenandoah River), but just going over it on the Goog scares me. It's the lack of appreciable guardrails.
There are low water bridges similar to that all over western Arkansas, but they aren't nearly as long as this one. The length plus the lack of rails would conspire to make this bridge scary.
Quote from: NE2 on September 28, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
I haven't been over this low-water bridge (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.958108,-78.121839&spn=0.02386,0.049567&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.958108,-78.121839&panoid=LC15mwqpcEgCcQcEqHKZOg&cbp=12,1.68,,0,20.94) (SR 624, former SR 12, over the Shenandoah River), but just going over it on the Goog scares me. It's the lack of appreciable guardrails.
Yeah, I would say your bridge certainly beats this one:
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.533152,-74.320843&spn=0.000008,0.005225&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.533152,-74.320843&panoid=ah0JVPde-eO24SkkCiF7Kg&cbp=12,147.25,,0,0.83 (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.533152,-74.320843&spn=0.000008,0.005225&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.533152,-74.320843&panoid=ah0JVPde-eO24SkkCiF7Kg&cbp=12,147.25,,0,0.83)
Quote from: Mr. Matté on September 28, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
Not exactly answering the question posed in the title, but I occasionally bike up CR 628 in Mansfield Township, Burlington Co., NJ and pass under the NJ Turnpike PA Extension bridges and the I-295 bridges.
The Turnpike bridges, built in the 1950s, still look relatively stable and clean as shown below:
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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7JrxYv8l.jpg&hash=0a0db12122ea21c25c0a21a7ccd219861906c253)
while the I-295 bridges, built in the 1970s, are all rusted and ugly:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNEgYNIgl.jpg&hash=a03ee85914d02e8803be0fc1bf1f91e6ac306a92)
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Thing is, the 295 bridge may just be on a differnet maintence schedule for painting than the turnpike bridge. Or the paint used wasn't as good due to it being a different type.
I grew up on the West Coast of Florida. People thought I was crazy, but I used to love crossing the old Sunshine Skyway Bridge on my motorcycle. As a matter of fact, I crossed it on my bike the day after they reopened the remaining span after the Summit Venture brought the southbound span down in 1980. The old bridge had ab out a quarter mile of steel grating at the top. So, was it scary to me? Not at all. It was always an adventure for me.
Even though I was born in Ohio and lived there until I was 8-years-old, until early-October, I had never crossed the Ironton-Russell Bridge over the Ohio River. It's not that I was "scared" crossing it; it was just a little unnerving - not unlike the first time I got caught at a red light while stopped beneath an overpass in Anaheim, CA. I guess my jitteryness stems from the fact that I remember the collapse of the Silver Bridge over the Ohio at Gallipolis in 1967. But crossing the Ironton Bridge IS an experience.
interesting wooden floating bridge: https://roadtrippers.com/blog/would-you-drive-across-this-floating-bridge
The Cabin John Arch in Cabin John, MD, back when it was still 2 lanes. In a school bus, with another school bus coming the other way. But no, I wasn't driving.
I crossed this after rush hour, but in the early night of winter, it was pitch black. The Harry W. Nice Bridge in MD/VA, in a loaded semi, it was scary due to the severe angle the road takes once you're over the hump, heading towards VA, feels like you're going down a really big log flume. I could not imangine doing this in the rain, you would risk locking your brakes, or losing drive wheel traction if you put the engine brake on. I can see why they want to replace it, the severe approach angles coupled with being just one lane each way makes it somewhat dangerous, as it serves as a bypass of DC and a lot of trucks take it.
One for bugo to stay away from:
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SPUI: I literally wouldn't cross that bridge.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 13, 2014, 08:53:59 AM
I crossed this after rush hour, but in the early night of winter, it was pitch black. The Harry W. Nice Bridge in MD/VA, in a loaded semi, it was scary due to the severe angle the road takes once you're over the hump, heading towards VA, feels like you're going down a really big log flume. I could not imangine doing this in the rain, you would risk locking your brakes, or losing drive wheel traction if you put the engine brake on. I can see why they want to replace it, the severe approach angles coupled with being just one lane each way makes it somewhat dangerous, as it serves as a bypass of DC and a lot of trucks take it.
The current Harry W. Nice Bridge (U.S. 301 over the Potomac River estuary) is narrow (it was opened to traffic in 1940) and climbing the bridge over the navigation channel is indeed steep.
MdTA has environmental approval to replace the bridge, and the replacement span (4 lanes) is in preliminary engineering. They have not identified funding for the replacement bridge at this point either, but with two new projects (I-95 ETLs and Md. 200 (ICC)) now complete and generating revenue, it may become easier to fund the replacement.
On the surface, the George Milroy Bridge (outside Tacoma, Washington) appears to be just any other bridge. But when you actually cross it, the whole thing shakes back and forth and you get the feeling that it might not hold for much longer. It doesn't help that it's the only bridge between Fife and Puyallup, Washington, and is subject to massive amounts of vehicular traffic everyday, straining the 83 year-old bridge. I'm fine with the 9 foot lanes but not on bridges that regularly assist trucks across a river. I'm not sure how much longer it has, but if I know Pierce County, the whole fucking thing is gonna have to wash away before a replacement is considered.
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Quote from: cpzilliacus on December 13, 2014, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 13, 2014, 08:53:59 AM
I crossed this after rush hour, but in the early night of winter, it was pitch black. The Harry W. Nice Bridge in MD/VA, in a loaded semi, it was scary due to the severe angle the road takes once you're over the hump, heading towards VA, feels like you're going down a really big log flume. I could not imangine doing this in the rain, you would risk locking your brakes, or losing drive wheel traction if you put the engine brake on. I can see why they want to replace it, the severe approach angles coupled with being just one lane each way makes it somewhat dangerous, as it serves as a bypass of DC and a lot of trucks take it.
The current Harry W. Nice Bridge (U.S. 301 over the Potomac River estuary) is narrow (it was opened to traffic in 1940) and climbing the bridge over the navigation channel is indeed steep.
MdTA has environmental approval to replace the bridge, and the replacement span (4 lanes) is in preliminary engineering. They have not identified funding for the replacement bridge at this point either, but with two new projects (I-95 ETLs and Md. 200 (ICC)) now complete and generating revenue, it may become easier to fund the replacement.
Question is, will it run into woodrow wilson bridge type issues, if they try to build longer approaches that make the angle more gentle.
One solution is to have it curve, a fairly gentle curve to the east and then back west for the high level section, repeated on the other side.
Another idea would be, have it just be a really long approach on either side, but without the flat spots.
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 01:43:58 AM
On the surface, the George Milroy Bridge (outside Tacoma, Washington) appears to be just any other bridge. But when you actually cross it, the whole thing shakes back and forth and you get the feeling that it might not hold for much longer. It doesn't help that it's the only bridge between Fife and Puyallup, Washington, and is subject to massive amounts of vehicular traffic everyday, straining the 83 year-old bridge. I'm fine with the 9 foot lanes but not on bridges that regularly assist trucks across a river. I'm not sure how much longer it has, but if I know Pierce County, the whole fucking thing is gonna have to wash away before a replacement is considered.
The Harry Nice Bridge in Maryland (discussed in this thread) definitely shakes and sways as big trucks crosses it.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 14, 2014, 09:01:21 AM
Question is, will it run into woodrow wilson bridge type issues, if they try to build longer approaches that make the angle more gentle.
One solution is to have it curve, a fairly gentle curve to the east and then back west for the high level section, repeated on the other side.
Another idea would be, have it just be a really long approach on either side, but without the flat spots.
The selected alternative is a new four lane bridge just north of the existing structure, with the 1940 bridge "taken out of service" (and presumably demolished).
You can read the EIS documents here (http://www.mdta.maryland.gov/Nicebridge/nice_documents.html).
I've never really had any concern about the Triborough Bridge before, but when I was leaving NYC, I took that instead of my usual route across the Cross Bronx from either the Throgs Neck or Whitestone, and I'd have to say the section over Bronx Kill bounced like a MoFo. There were also some repairs going on at the Major Deegan interchange, and I told one of the construction workers that. He just laughed.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 22, 2015, 11:19:50 PM
I've never really had any concern about the Triborough Bridge before, but when I was leaving NYC, I took that instead of my usual route across the Cross Bronx from either the Throgs Neck or Whitestone, and I'd have to say the section over Bronx Kill bounced like a MoFo. There were also some repairs going on at the Major Deegan interchange, and I told one of the construction workers that. He just laughed.
I rarely ever am in a situation where I would need to use the Triborough, but when I have opportunity to do so, I can never justify the expense when there are free options nearby - and at least across the East River, a number of more interesting crossings. Of course, this is for weekend leisure / pre/post event / passing-through drives, and not for a daily commute.
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Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 22, 2015, 11:19:50 PM
I've never really had any concern about the Triborough Bridge before, but when I was leaving NYC, I took that instead of my usual route across the Cross Bronx from either the Throgs Neck or Whitestone, and I'd have to say the section over Bronx Kill bounced like a MoFo. There were also some repairs going on at the Major Deegan interchange, and I told one of the construction workers that. He just laughed.
I rarely ever am in a situation where I would need to use the Triborough, but when I have opportunity to do so, I can never justify the expense when there are free options nearby - and at least across the East River, a number of more interesting crossings. Of course, this is for weekend leisure / pre/post event / passing-through drives, and not for a daily commute.
Triboro is really only good if you're going somewhere east of the Van Wyck or started on the GWB
The bridge off of MN 23 at Oliver, WI, shakes when you drive over it.
Highway 183 bridge just north of Pisgah Iowa over the Soldier River had a pronounced sustained vibration during high water condition around 1996 (or 7?). Bridge also exhibited stronger irregular vibrations when tree limbs were chewed up underneath from the force of the water.
The old Q Bridge in New Haven, CT was definitely a scary bridge. It was super old, there were no shoulders, and there was always a traffic jam. I always had the fear it would collapse one day.
Alaskan Wy Viaduct. Pray an earthquake won't happen while driving on that thing.
Quote from: KEK Inc. on March 02, 2015, 03:01:03 PM
Alaskan Wy Viaduct. Pray an earthquake won't happen while driving on that thing.
Or parking under it.
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Quote from: KEK Inc. on March 02, 2015, 03:01:03 PM
Alaskan Wy Viaduct. Pray an earthquake won't happen while driving on that thing.
Or parking under it.
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
The Saint George Bridge on US 13 in Delaware was nerve racking.
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Texas has collapsed?
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Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Texas has collapsed?
What's the city of Frisco, Texas named for? Mind blown.
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Yeah but there's still the earthquake that'll make it collapse.
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: kkt on March 02, 2015, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Texas has collapsed?
What's the city of Frisco, Texas named for? Mind blown.
The Saint Louis-
San Francisco Railroad, as a matter of fact.
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Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Texas has collapsed?
What's the city of Frisco, Texas named for? Mind blown.
The Saint Louis-San Francisco Railroad, as a matter of fact.
San Francisco being the railroad's aspiration. It actually didn't get any closer to San Francisco than Nebraska.
Quote from: kkt on March 02, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
San Francisco being the railroad's aspiration. It actually didn't get any closer to San Francisco than Nebraska.
Where did it enter Nebraska? The plan was to build to San Francisco via the Texas Panhandle, but the route west of Isleta, NM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_and_Pacific_Railroad) went to the Santa Fe, and it was never built from Isleta east to Sapulpa, OK. (The Frisco did later build farther west after the plans to reach California were scrapped.)
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Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: kkt on March 02, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
San Francisco being the railroad's aspiration. It actually didn't get any closer to San Francisco than Nebraska.
Where did it enter Nebraska? The plan was to build to San Francisco via the Texas Panhandle, but the route west of Isleta, NM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_and_Pacific_Railroad) went to the Santa Fe, and it was never built from Isleta east to Sapulpa, OK. (The Frisco did later build farther west after the plans to reach California were scrapped.)
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I thought they had trackage rights into Omaha at one point, but now I'm not finding it. I was probably wrong.
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Yeah but there's still the earthquake that'll make it collapse.
The Irwin-Allen-esque music is in poor taste for a government agency simulating a massive loss of human life.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 04, 2015, 04:20:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Yeah but there's still the earthquake that'll make it collapse.
The Irwin-Allen-esque music is in poor taste for a government agency simulating a massive loss of human life.
Haahaa, the sound was added by somebody else. The original video stopped every 10 seconds for a short narration.
The old North Wildwood, NJ bridge was wood and metal. It rattled and moved as you drove across, and my mother was always afraid to go over it.
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Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2015, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
Or while being anywhere near it. When that thing goes, I can only assume the entire waterfront is going with it.
Judging by the Frisco area collapses, it'll fall on itself.
Yeah but there's still the earthquake that'll make it collapse.
The Irwin-Allen-esque music is in poor taste for a government agency simulating a massive loss of human life.
Haahaa, the sound was added by somebody else. The original video stopped every 10 seconds for a short narration.
Not a bridge...but this is actually the audio they went with for a "proposal" video....
That irwin allen music made me think of it.
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By far the WORST bridge I have ever been on was in Rowlesburg WV.
It was a railroad installed bridge to get the county road over the railroad yard. It was one lane and had loose wood boards for the deck. The boards were just planks between the steel bridge rails. They rattled like an SOB, and you could feel them move under the car.
If that wasn't bad enough, the structure was OLD and not very sturdy. You could feel the structure move too(as if the boards weren't bad enough). It was about 300 yards long too.
It never failed that some MORON would start across the bridge from the other side with you on it. You had to do that bridge at about 3mph. Took forever to get across it.
Charlestown Bridge in Boston or the Route 34/Stevenson Dam crossing of the Housatonic River. They're made of steel, so I suspect they're safe, but the rattling is unsettling.
US 1 drawbridge in Mystic CT. It's old, but it's bold, not to the common eye. I thought that thing would crush itself.
This one (http://binged.it/1OkJe9p) (Google Map version link (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4519735,-88.1884398,48m/data=!3m1!1e3)), an old, wooden, one-lane bridge, which has a crest to it that hides opposing traffic. A bridge that I thought was supposed to be replaced many years ago. I recall having to go across it while practice driving with my driving school instructor. It seemed scarier when there was an active railroad below it.
^^ I was processing a bridge inspection report on it 12 years ago and it was in very poor shape then so I am surprised it is still up.
Even worse is the old truss bridge a little bit east of that. It was closed to all traffic a good while ago because one of the truss members had totally rusted through. So I am surprised to see that bridge had not been demolished for liability purposes itself.
Quote from: Big John on September 18, 2015, 11:33:09 PM
^^ I was processing a bridge inspection report on it 12 years ago and it was in very poor shape then so I am surprised it is still up.
Even worse is the old truss bridge a little bit east of that. It was closed to all traffic a good while ago because one of the truss members had totally rusted through. So I am surprised to see that bridge had not been demolished for liability purposes itself.
That was close to the last time I drove over it. I recall that bridge (and a couple others) being the subject of a couple "investigative reports" by the Milwaukee TV channels. I know a few friends that had their senior pictures taken by the truss bridge you mentioned. That may be the last of its kind that crosses the Milwaukee River, with the truss bridges in Newburg and Saukville having been replaced several years ago.
Williamsburg Bridge in NYC, the lanes are VERY narrow, worse than my other least favorite, the Outerbridge Crossing
The Tappan Zee doesnt really scare me to be honest, it used to years ago when the pavement was much worse.
Also I hate that horrible Belt Parkway drawbridge, the pavement sucks on both ends, its bumpy and the steel grates cause my car to sway from side to side as I drive on it.
Another NYC one I hear is pretty bad but I never actually driven on it yet, The Outer roadway of the Queensboro Bridge, I've seen videos of that thing, it looks insane.
This extremely narrow bridge in Washingtons Crossing, NJ and PA:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.296027,-74.8671476,3a,70.6y,237.26h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA1f8Nij4DCF4VOCeoqyeoQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
This is supposedly a two-way bridge, but I am very skeptical because barely two normal sized cars can fit on this thing without running into the sides of the bridge. You HAVE to pull your mirrors in otherwise they will get dinged, unless you want to ram the guy who is crossing on the other side.
^^ Bridgehunter shows the deck width as 15.1'. http://bridgehunter.com/pa/bucks/97224999100050/
This is far narrower than the minimum AASHTO allowable width for a 2-way roadway of 18'. I am guessing why this is not a 1-lane bridge is its long length making for significant backups to clear traffic when it would switch directions.
AL 35 going across the Tennessee River before reaching AL 40. When it was 2 lanes back in the day, that thing was one scary ass bridge.
Upon completion of the new southbound bridge, that [old] bridge will probably be torn down or be converted to a pedestrian bridge.
Quote from: Big John on September 27, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
^^ Bridgehunter shows the deck width as 15.1'. http://bridgehunter.com/pa/bucks/97224999100050/
This is far narrower than the minimum AASHTO allowable width for a 2-way roadway of 18'. I am guessing why this is not a 1-lane bridge is its long length making for significant backups to clear traffic when it would switch directions.
Weird that a newer bridge would be narrower than the older Calhoun Street Bridge.
Quote from: Big John on September 27, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
^^ Bridgehunter shows the deck width as 15.1'. http://bridgehunter.com/pa/bucks/97224999100050/
This is far narrower than the minimum AASHTO allowable width for a 2-way roadway of 18'. I am guessing why this is not a 1-lane bridge is its long length making for significant backups to clear traffic when it would switch directions.
What about the traffic backups when one of them has to back up from the middle of the bridge? Or when they collide?
Quote from: kkt on September 28, 2015, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on September 27, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
^^ Bridgehunter shows the deck width as 15.1'. http://bridgehunter.com/pa/bucks/97224999100050/
This is far narrower than the minimum AASHTO allowable width for a 2-way roadway of 18'. I am guessing why this is not a 1-lane bridge is its long length making for significant backups to clear traffic when it would switch directions.
What about the traffic backups when one of them has to back up from the middle of the bridge? Or when they collide?
From pictures I saw, there are traffic signals at each end of the bridge. I am assuming they are manually turned red when such situations occur. So backups do occur but not as often as if one-lane traffic was used as the deck width would normally dictate.
Quote from: Big John on September 28, 2015, 05:14:58 PM
Quote from: kkt on September 28, 2015, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on September 27, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
^^ Bridgehunter shows the deck width as 15.1'. http://bridgehunter.com/pa/bucks/97224999100050/
This is far narrower than the minimum AASHTO allowable width for a 2-way roadway of 18'. I am guessing why this is not a 1-lane bridge is its long length making for significant backups to clear traffic when it would switch directions.
What about the traffic backups when one of them has to back up from the middle of the bridge? Or when they collide?
From pictures I saw, there are traffic signals at each end of the bridge. I am assuming they are manually turned red when such situations occur. So backups do occur but not as often as if one-lane traffic was used as the deck width would normally dictate.
There's also a width limit of 6.5 feet. Two vehicles of that width could pass with mirrors out unless it's a big-ass pickup truck with those mirrors that could take out a car in the next lane. Most
cars (not SUVs/trucks/minivans) nowadays are well under that. One of the most common cars in the US is the midsized Toyota Camry, which is just under 6 feet wide. The Ford Taurus is just under 6.5 feet and that's one of the widest "cars" on the road right now. Still quite narrow, but the bridge dates to when it was mostly horse traffic with the very rare motorized vehicle.
Hmm. This is tough, because I can't say I've been on actual "scary" bridges (at least none I can remember at the moment). However, the North Grand Island Bridge in Niagara Falls, NY has an exit with no time to merge/decelerate. You have to pay close attention to make sure you don't miss it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0734081,-78.9905846,3a,75y,356.82h,75.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svgNX8tZvPNk1GRprMhn_xQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DvgNX8tZvPNk1GRprMhn_xQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.09674%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
Going 55 on NY 5 (Skyway) (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8724226,-78.8788324,3a,75y,191.74h,81.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sATZNDXB_8WOw9v_gQreKjg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Buffalo isn't always a wise idea esp. if there is bad weather. I hydroplaned on it a couple months ago and my heart skipped a couple of beats.
Edit: the only one that comes to mind is this old one-lane bridge in Ashford, NY that I went over a long time ago: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=r77tk07nhwgm&lvl=19.4&dir=6.31&sty=o&form=LMLTCC#Y3A9cjJjY2h5OGY5NzBtJmx2bD0xOSZkaXI9OTYuODUmc3R5PW8mcT0xMDg5OCUyMEVkaWVzJTIwUmQlMkMlMjBTcHJpbmd2aWxsZSUyQyUyME5ZJTIwMTQxNDE=
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4757615,-78.6768992,141m/data=!3m1!1e3
Hmm....
US 1 drawbridge - Mystic CT
Gold Star Bridge (I-95) - New London CT
Wade Bridge (I-81) - Harrisburg PA
I-83 Susquehanna Bridge - Harrisburg PA
I-278 Verrazano Narrows Bridge - New York NY
I-195 Washington Bridge - Providence RI
Roberto Clemente Bridge - Pittsburgh PA
(dad's memory) Golden Gate Bridge - San Francisco CA
(dad again) Oakland Bay Bridge - San Francisco CA
Driscoll Bridge (GSP) - Sayreville NJ
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 28, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
(dad again) Oakland Bay Bridge - San Francisco CA
What was particularly scary about the Bay Bridge?
Quote from: kkt on September 29, 2015, 12:36:50 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 28, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
(dad again) Oakland Bay Bridge - San Francisco CA
What was particularly scary about the Bay Bridge?
I think we've uncovered a fear of bridges.
Quote from: kkt on September 29, 2015, 12:36:50 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 28, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
(dad again) Oakland Bay Bridge - San Francisco CA
What was particularly scary about the Bay Bridge?
This was in July 1989, a couple of months before the earthquake. So the pavement sucked to be honest.
Quote from: kkt on September 29, 2015, 12:36:50 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 28, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
(dad again) Oakland Bay Bridge - San Francisco CA
What was particularly scary about the Bay Bridge?
I'd ask the same thing about the Roberto Clemente Bridge. I can't think of any reason it would be that scary (or at all).
Quote from: cl94 on September 28, 2015, 05:24:47 PM
Quote from: Big John on September 28, 2015, 05:14:58 PM
Quote from: kkt on September 28, 2015, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on September 27, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
^^ Bridgehunter shows the deck width as 15.1'. http://bridgehunter.com/pa/bucks/97224999100050/
This is far narrower than the minimum AASHTO allowable width for a 2-way roadway of 18'. I am guessing why this is not a 1-lane bridge is its long length making for significant backups to clear traffic when it would switch directions.
What about the traffic backups when one of them has to back up from the middle of the bridge? Or when they collide?
From pictures I saw, there are traffic signals at each end of the bridge. I am assuming they are manually turned red when such situations occur. So backups do occur but not as often as if one-lane traffic was used as the deck width would normally dictate.
There's also a width limit of 6.5 feet. Two vehicles of that width could pass with mirrors out unless it's a big-ass pickup truck with those mirrors that could take out a car in the next lane. Most cars (not SUVs/trucks/minivans) nowadays are well under that. One of the most common cars in the US is the midsized Toyota Camry, which is just under 6 feet wide. The Ford Taurus is just under 6.5 feet and that's one of the widest "cars" on the road right now. Still quite narrow, but the bridge dates to when it was mostly horse traffic with the very rare motorized vehicle.
I'll confirm this. I take this bridge every few months to visit my inlaws in Ewing township, and have no problems taking my wife's Honda-CRV over with two way traffic. As mentioned above, I've only seen issues involving people afraid to hug the outside of their lane driving about 1 MPH. I did come across a pickup with the big mirrors before, but we had a few inches of clearance. That said, it is still amazingly tight and I can see why people panic once they get on there. In my opinion, the worst part of the experience is the NJ approach with a very sharp 90 degree curve directly before the bridge and a retention wall on the far side of the road. If you're going to hit somebody, it will be right there.
Quote from: DeaconG on July 11, 2011, 05:40:07 PM
Chesapeake Bay Bridge. Drove it once back in the early 80's, on my way back to NC. Everything was copasetic until I realized..."Is that a GRATING for the bridge deck? OH MY GOOOOOOD!"
I drove it on my road trip to NYC so I could catch a film festival in Middletown, Delaware that was showing "A Sort of Homecoming." The bridge itself wasn't as scary as I expected, but the low speed limits near the bridge were pretty scary. I seriously thought I was going to get pulled over by either a Maryland State Trooper, or just a local cop.
The US 51 bridge just south of Cairo, IL. It's a two-lane highway, the bridge is very narrow and very steep climb. From now on, it's I-57 for me!
Not that it's scary in nature, but the Mississippi River bridge in Baton Rouge can be if the sun is in your eyes and you're trying to keep your eyes on the road.
Quote from: golden eagle on December 24, 2015, 12:34:27 AM
The US 51 bridge just south of Cairo, IL. It's a two-lane highway, the bridge is very narrow and very steep climb. From now on, it's I-57 for me!
Not that it's scary in nature, but the Mississippi River bridge in Baton Rouge can be if the sun is in your eyes and you're trying to keep your eyes on the road.
I've done it in a truck.
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 24, 2015, 12:42:51 AM
Quote from: golden eagle on December 24, 2015, 12:34:27 AM
The US 51 bridge just south of Cairo, IL. It's a two-lane highway, the bridge is very narrow and very steep climb. From now on, it's I-57 for me!
Not that it's scary in nature, but the Mississippi River bridge in Baton Rouge can be if the sun is in your eyes and you're trying to keep your eyes on the road.
I've done it in a truck.
Looks like the worst part is the lack of shoulders.
Quote from: Rothman on December 24, 2015, 07:36:15 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on December 24, 2015, 12:42:51 AM
Quote from: golden eagle on December 24, 2015, 12:34:27 AM
The US 51 bridge just south of Cairo, IL. It's a two-lane highway, the bridge is very narrow and very steep climb. From now on, it's I-57 for me!
Not that it's scary in nature, but the Mississippi River bridge in Baton Rouge can be if the sun is in your eyes and you're trying to keep your eyes on the road.
I've done it in a truck.
Looks like the worst part is the lack of shoulders.
I noticed that and the grade on the west end. Also the sharp curve at the east end.
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 28, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
I-278 Verrazano Narrows Bridge - New York NY
How is that one scary? The only thing that makes me a bit nervous is the hairpin turn to get onto it from the Belt Parkway but aside from that its not even the scariest one on 278, the Kosusco bridge between Brooklyn and Queens or that Drawbridge in the Bronx are much scarier to drive across since theyre in poor shape and look like theyre going to fall in at any moment.
Quote from: mariethefoxy on December 26, 2015, 02:17:43 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 28, 2015, 09:42:14 PM
I-278 Verrazano Narrows Bridge - New York NY
How is that one scary? The only thing that makes me a bit nervous is the hairpin turn to get onto it from the Belt Parkway but aside from that its not even the scariest one on 278, the Kosusco bridge between Brooklyn and Queens or that Drawbridge in the Bronx are much scarier to drive across since theyre in poor shape and look like theyre going to fall in at any moment.
*scratches head*
The K-Bridge (Kosciusko) replacement is already well under way.
i haven't been on that part of the BQE in a few years.
Two that come to my mind from driving are the Old Eggner's Ferry Bridge in Marshall County, Kentucky and the Old St. George Island bridges in Eastpoint, Florida. Both have since been replaced (Eggner in 2016, St George in 2004). Both bridges had extremely narrow lanes with little to no shoulders and questionable crash barriers. St George was very low and had a long narrow Island to cross in the middle with Sea Gulls constantly crossing and waves crashing into the roadway.
Eggner's Ferry:
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St George:
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Cherry Hill Road over Deer Creek at the south end of Rocks State Park in Harford County, Maryland; every time I go across it it makes a rumbling noise that makes me paranoid that the deck will give way. I don't know what surface the deck is but it's not concrete or asphalt. Plus there's a 90-degree curve to the left at the east end of the bridge, while the west end of the bridge is Cherry Hill's intersection with Route 24.
Ironically, I absolutely love driving over Maryland's longest bridge, the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
Quote from: epzik8 on December 20, 2016, 04:13:52 AM
Cherry Hill Road over Deer Creek at the south end of Rocks State Park in Harford County, Maryland; every time I go across it it makes a rumbling noise that makes me paranoid that the deck will give way. I don't know what surface the deck is but it's not concrete or asphalt. Plus there's a 90-degree curve to the left at the east end of the bridge, while the west end of the bridge is Cherry Hill's intersection with Route 24.
Ironically, I absolutely love driving over Maryland's longest bridge, the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
if it's neither of those, surely it's wood or stone. can't think of any other bridge materials safe for a deck
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 20, 2016, 07:23:36 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on December 20, 2016, 04:13:52 AM
Cherry Hill Road over Deer Creek at the south end of Rocks State Park in Harford County, Maryland; every time I go across it it makes a rumbling noise that makes me paranoid that the deck will give way. I don't know what surface the deck is but it's not concrete or asphalt. Plus there's a 90-degree curve to the left at the east end of the bridge, while the west end of the bridge is Cherry Hill's intersection with Route 24.
Ironically, I absolutely love driving over Maryland's longest bridge, the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
if it's neither of those, surely it's wood or stone. can't think of any other bridge materials safe for a deck
Its wood.
https://bridgehunter.com/md/harford/200000H-0094010/
Quote from: silverback1065 on December 20, 2016, 07:23:36 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on December 20, 2016, 04:13:52 AM
Cherry Hill Road over Deer Creek at the south end of Rocks State Park in Harford County, Maryland; every time I go across it it makes a rumbling noise that makes me paranoid that the deck will give way. I don't know what surface the deck is but it's not concrete or asphalt. Plus there's a 90-degree curve to the left at the east end of the bridge, while the west end of the bridge is Cherry Hill's intersection with Route 24.
Ironically, I absolutely love driving over Maryland's longest bridge, the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
if it's neither of those, surely it's wood or stone. can't think of any other bridge materials safe for a deck
Seattle has a series of drawbridges over the ship canal: Ballard, Fremont, University and Montlake Bridges, in which the bridge deck is metal grating.
Given that kkt got me thinking about it, I have some contenders for the scary bridge title:
Royal Gorge Bridge just off US 50 in Colorado, yes this can be crossed in a vehicle early in the morning and late in the afternoon:
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The legend that Blackrock Road in and around Balch Camp, California. The two wooden bridges have sheer drop offs that tumble into the canyon below and you have to back up if you encounter another car:
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Quote from: Zeffy on September 27, 2015, 09:59:44 AM
This extremely narrow bridge in Washingtons Crossing, NJ and PA:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.296027,-74.8671476,3a,70.6y,237.26h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA1f8Nij4DCF4VOCeoqyeoQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
This is supposedly a two-way bridge, but I am very skeptical because barely two normal sized cars can fit on this thing without running into the sides of the bridge. You HAVE to pull your mirrors in otherwise they will get dinged, unless you want to ram the guy who is crossing on the other side.
I once went a little out of my way to cross there due to the Revolutionary War history, having no idea what the bridge was like. I thought it would be neat to have my first time crossing the Delaware into New Jersey be at the spot of Washington's famous crossing, and ended up with the roadgeek bonus of crossing this neat old bridge.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/613/31878362173_62f734e678_c.jpg)
While looking at this sign, the joke just had to be made.... "So why didn't they just use the bridge?"
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/780/32568461471_645cb83761_c.jpg)
US Route 24 crossing the Mississippi. Especially during the 2015 floods. The water was up to the girders.
https://goo.gl/maps/cpG6oQcV6jr (https://goo.gl/maps/cpG6oQcV6jr)
The pre-rebuild Huey P. Long used to be my winner. Until I crossed this bridge in England (https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3268574,-0.1769776,3a,75y,314.4h,86.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxYpPbzrFw9hu6cXdI896-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1), with the added "driving on the opposite side of the road from what I'm used to" difficulty bonus.
Quote from: lordsutch on February 04, 2017, 03:47:12 PM
The pre-rebuild Huey P. Long used to be my winner. Until I crossed this bridge in England (https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3268574,-0.1769776,3a,75y,314.4h,86.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxYpPbzrFw9hu6cXdI896-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1), with the added "driving on the opposite side of the road from what I'm used to" difficulty bonus.
Make everybody get out of the car, walk across the pedestrian bridge, and meet them on the other side?
Quote from: kkt on February 04, 2017, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: lordsutch on February 04, 2017, 03:47:12 PM
The pre-rebuild Huey P. Long used to be my winner. Until I crossed this bridge in England (https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3268574,-0.1769776,3a,75y,314.4h,86.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxYpPbzrFw9hu6cXdI896-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1), with the added "driving on the opposite side of the road from what I'm used to" difficulty bonus.
Make everybody get out of the car, walk across the pedestrian bridge, and meet them on the other side?
Looks like there is decent enough room for at minimum two standard sized vehicle to squeeze by each other without a lot of effort. That "weak bridge" sign with no weight capacity sure isn't reassuring though. :-D
^^ I believe the 7.5 T refers to the weight capacity (tons or tonnes?)
Quote from: Big John on February 04, 2017, 06:16:16 PM
^^ I believe the 7.5 T refers to the weight capacity (tons or tonnes?)
Yeah you're right, I guess the non MUTCD (England obviously) sign threw me off and I should have zoomed in or noticed the one on the left.
I wouldn't call this bridge scary compared to many on this thread, but for some reason I get a little pit in my stomach every time I drive the Cold Spring Canyon Arch Bridge on CA-154 north of Santa Barbara.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Spring_Canyon_Arch_Bridge
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images154/ca-154_cold_spring_bridge_10.jpg)
(picture from AARoads)
Quote from: Rothman on December 26, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
The K-Bridge (Kosciusko) replacement is already well under way.
Between that bridge, and the Tappan Zee and the Goethals Bridge, the Kosciusko is the one I'll miss the most.
Quote from: DTComposer on February 04, 2017, 07:11:20 PM
I wouldn't call this bridge scary compared to many on this thread, but for some reason I get a little pit in my stomach every time I drive the Cold Spring Canyon Arch Bridge on CA-154 north of Santa Barbara.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Spring_Canyon_Arch_Bridge
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images154/ca-154_cold_spring_bridge_10.jpg)
(picture from AARoads)
Nice scenery, but I wouldn't want to be there, or any other high arch bridge in an earthquake. So I guess I'm with you on this.
Quote from: Big John on February 04, 2017, 06:16:16 PM^^ I believe the 7.5 T refers to the weight capacity (tons or tonnes?)
Tonnes (since TSRGD 1981 went into effect).
The Auburn-Foresthill Bridge northeast of Auburn, CA has always been a bit frightening to me -- primarily because the approaches to each side are downhill, giving whoever crosses the nearly half-mile-long span the full view of the fact that it's 730 feet in the air (mid-span). Advice: don't look sideways any more than absolutely necessary while driving across the bridge -- to me it feels like I'm driving on a tightrope! :wow:
Quote from: lordsutch on February 04, 2017, 03:47:12 PM
The pre-rebuild Huey P. Long used to be my winner. Until I crossed this bridge in England (https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3268574,-0.1769776,3a,75y,314.4h,86.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxYpPbzrFw9hu6cXdI896-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1), with the added "driving on the opposite side of the road from what I'm used to" difficulty bonus.
That's next to the Old Bridge Hotel and Pub in Huntingdon. I walked across that one on the pedestrian bridge in February 2016, but I don't recall driving over it. According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bridge,_Huntingdon/), that bridge was originally built in 1332.
Quote from: sparker on March 02, 2017, 02:48:14 AM
The Auburn-Foresthill Bridge northeast of Auburn, CA has always been a bit frightening to me -- primarily because the approaches to each side are downhill, giving whoever crosses the nearly half-mile-long span the full view of the fact that it's 730 feet in the air (mid-span). Advice: don't look sideways any more than absolutely necessary while driving across the bridge -- to me it feels like I'm driving on a tightrope! :wow:
You get a fantastic view of that bridge on northbound CA 49:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Foresthill+Bridge,+Auburn,+CA+95603/@38.923259,-121.038845,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s36223096!2e1!3e10!6s%2F%2Flh4.googleusercontent.com%2Fproxy%2FweOQa_8L1AoShCh3iPfbAmMLMSdQS4Po49yKySUXgaruRZxQzPMFnQJzR1cuzp4vnrFaukpQec5Xvzrk8uG2CRUqCdjJqQ%3Dw203-h152!7i2048!8i1536!4m5!3m4!1s0x809b05094a4ebb87:0xb9543427fa7ad3b3!8m2!3d38.9221782!4d-121.0388651?hl=en
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2017, 09:26:11 AM
Quote from: sparker on March 02, 2017, 02:48:14 AM
The Auburn-Foresthill Bridge northeast of Auburn, CA has always been a bit frightening to me -- primarily because the approaches to each side are downhill, giving whoever crosses the nearly half-mile-long span the full view of the fact that it's 730 feet in the air (mid-span). Advice: don't look sideways any more than absolutely necessary while driving across the bridge -- to me it feels like I'm driving on a tightrope! :wow:
You get a fantastic view of that bridge on northbound CA 49:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Foresthill+Bridge,+Auburn,+CA+95603/@38.923259,-121.038845,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s36223096!2e1!3e10!6s%2F%2Flh4.googleusercontent.com%2Fproxy%2FweOQa_8L1AoShCh3iPfbAmMLMSdQS4Po49yKySUXgaruRZxQzPMFnQJzR1cuzp4vnrFaukpQec5Xvzrk8uG2CRUqCdjJqQ%3Dw203-h152!7i2048!8i1536!4m5!3m4!1s0x809b05094a4ebb87:0xb9543427fa7ad3b3!8m2!3d38.9221782!4d-121.0388651?hl=en
Which in itself is interesting, as it was presumed -- for a time -- that when the Auburn Dam would inundate existing CA 49, the Auburn-Foresthill Bridge would be part of a hilltopping CA 49 bypass of the lake to be formed by the dam. Of course, when the dam was cancelled, there was no need to reroute CA 49 -- since a jog over I-80 would have been required under that plan. The aggregate mileage of a reroute using existing roadways (up 80, over the bridge, and backtracking on the old Foresthill road that went down into the canyon to intersect with CA 49) was much more than the original route through central Auburn -- even with its narrow winding descent into the American River canyon.
Quote from: stwoodbury on March 02, 2017, 07:55:01 AM
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bridge,_Huntingdon/), that bridge was originally built in 1332.
You
do realize you have a major typo there, right? I was going to make a joke about the bridge being that old, but I changed my mind.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 07, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: stwoodbury on March 02, 2017, 07:55:01 AM
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bridge,_Huntingdon), that bridge was originally built in 1332.
You do realize you have a major typo there, right? I was going to make a joke about the bridge being that old, but I changed my mind.
I assume the typo is the extra forward slash in the link (which I've fixed in this post), yes? Because the bridge was in fact built in 1332.
Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2017, 03:34:03 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 07, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
Quote from: stwoodbury on March 02, 2017, 07:55:01 AM
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Bridge,_Huntingdon), that bridge was originally built in 1332.
You do realize you have a major typo there, right? I was going to make a joke about the bridge being that old, but I changed my mind.
I assume the typo is the extra forward slash in the link (which I've fixed in this post), yes? Because the bridge was in fact built in 1332.
No, it's a mistake on my part. I thought you were still talking about the Huey P. Long Bridge, which was actually built in 1935. Yes, I can easily believe the bridge you linked to was built in 1332.
The soon-to-be supplanted Stillwater Bridge is one of the few 'scary bridges' that I have crossed here in Wisconsin. It is a 1930s-era multi-span through truss with a draw span. The scariest part to me is the reports that I have seen regarding its condition.
:wow:
Mike
Quote from: mgk920 on March 20, 2017, 10:30:35 PM
The soon-to-be supplanted Stillwater Bridge is one of the few 'scary bridges' that I have crossed here in Wisconsin. It is a 1930s-era multi-span through truss with a draw span. The scariest part to me is the reports that I have seen regarding its condition.
:wow:
Mike
Yeah, not to mention it's always full of traffic. This picture is a pretty typical scene.
(https://i.imgur.com/aS3sR9q.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/aS3sR9q.jpg)
Not really scared of bridges but if I were to pick one it woyld probably be the I-95 Millard Tydings Bridge in maryland because of how high it is.
Quote from: InterstateGuy on April 01, 2017, 03:09:28 PM
Not really scared of bridges but if I were to pick one it woyld probably be the I-95 Millard Tydings Bridge in maryland because of how high it is.
My mom hates that bridge...sge would rather drive across Annapolis Bay Bridge which i find ironic, the Bay Bridge. Has more "scary" factor to me... I am not scared of either
LGMS428
Has anyone mentioned Goethals or Outerbridge yet?
Quote from: cl94 on April 01, 2017, 08:13:42 PM
Has anyone mentioned Goethals or Outerbridge yet?
From page 2 of the thread:
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 29, 2011, 10:55:05 AM
The old Waldo-Hancock Bridge over the Penobscot River in Maine. It just felt old and rickety and very narrow. The Goethals and Outerbridge are more nerve-wracking due to the narrow lanes and heavy traffic, but the one in Maine felt very isolated and less likely to get regular maintenance.
My brother says the scariest bridge he drove across was the George Washington Bridge on his way home from our grandmother's funeral in 1995. Why that one? He was on the lower level in his 1974 Beetle in slow traffic and he saw a pothole near his car through which he says he could see the Hudson far below.
On Saturday, my wife and I took a short trip to Arkansas for our 11th anniversary. On the way there, we took a scenic route, and that included AR-187 across the Little Golden Gate Bridge in the town of Beaver. My wife has a fear of bridges over water, so I made sure not to tell her about this bridge until we were almost upon it. She was brave: even though the sound of the boards clunking underneath our car unnerved her, she was the one who took the pictures. The bridge is one lane with wooden decking. And yes, it's part of a state highway.
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Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
On Saturday, my wife and I took a short trip to Arkansas for our 11th anniversary. On the way there, we took a scenic route, and that included AR-187 across the Little Golden Gate Bridge in the town of Beaver. My wife has a fear of bridges over water, so I made sure not to tell her about this bridge until we were almost upon it. She was brave: even though the sound of the boards clunking underneath our car unnerved her, she was the one who took the pictures. The bridge is one lane with wooden decking. And yes, it's part of a state highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver1_zpsjpc5yf3z.jpg&hash=d40d14588fc83088102d7b05f631072e02c8da09)
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Is that 11'6" sign to the bottom of the cross-brace -- or to the bottom of the
sign itself? If I had to guess, I'd say the latter -- just to provide an additional measure of safety for what looks like a pretty marginal suspension system (I'm looking at the undersized vertical components)!
Quote from: sparker on April 06, 2017, 04:54:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
On Saturday, my wife and I took a short trip to Arkansas for our 11th anniversary. On the way there, we took a scenic route, and that included AR-187 across the Little Golden Gate Bridge in the town of Beaver. My wife has a fear of bridges over water, so I made sure not to tell her about this bridge until we were almost upon it. She was brave: even though the sound of the boards clunking underneath our car unnerved her, she was the one who took the pictures. The bridge is one lane with wooden decking. And yes, it's part of a state highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver1_zpsjpc5yf3z.jpg&hash=d40d14588fc83088102d7b05f631072e02c8da09)
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Is that 11'6" sign to the bottom of the cross-brace -- or to the bottom of the sign itself? If I had to guess, I'd say the latter -- just to provide an additional measure of safety for what looks like a pretty marginal suspension system (I'm looking at the undersized vertical components)!
According to this:
https://bridgehunter.com/ar/carroll/beaver/
clearance is 13.8 ft. above the deck, so probably it's the bottom of the sign.
Also, 10 ton weight limit.
Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
On Saturday, my wife and I took a short trip to Arkansas for our 11th anniversary. On the way there, we took a scenic route, and that included AR-187 across the Little Golden Gate Bridge in the town of Beaver. My wife has a fear of bridges over water, so I made sure not to tell her about this bridge until we were almost upon it. She was brave: even though the sound of the boards clunking underneath our car unnerved her, she was the one who took the pictures. The bridge is one lane with wooden decking. And yes, it's part of a state highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver1_zpsjpc5yf3z.jpg&hash=d40d14588fc83088102d7b05f631072e02c8da09)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver2_zpsxcxhhjhc.jpg&hash=40da56a43dd5d39953b9679ec136fe18145ae774)
That's pretty cool, apparently it is the only suspension bridge open in Arkansas. Weird thing is that there is an article on Wikipedia about the Beaver Bridge but not Arkansas 187... At least that's not all that high above the water table.
Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
On Saturday, my wife and I took a short trip to Arkansas for our 11th anniversary. On the way there, we took a scenic route, and that included AR-187 across the Little Golden Gate Bridge in the town of Beaver. My wife has a fear of bridges over water, so I made sure not to tell her about this bridge until we were almost upon it. She was brave: even though the sound of the boards clunking underneath our car unnerved her, she was the one who took the pictures. The bridge is one lane with wooden decking. And yes, it's part of a state highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver1_zpsjpc5yf3z.jpg&hash=d40d14588fc83088102d7b05f631072e02c8da09)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver2_zpsxcxhhjhc.jpg&hash=40da56a43dd5d39953b9679ec136fe18145ae774)
With the recent flooding in the area, Beaver Bridge looks a little different now...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaverBr_zpschjgafyz.jpg&hash=9e91e6764c996aba7ac9489f2863b93c85b8c4b3)
The Cowingo Dam-Bridge? Its Also a state highway, Its pretty narrow on the bridge and trucks love taking this way. The view is nice tho :bigass:
Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2017, 12:11:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 06, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
On Saturday, my wife and I took a short trip to Arkansas for our 11th anniversary. On the way there, we took a scenic route, and that included AR-187 across the Little Golden Gate Bridge in the town of Beaver. My wife has a fear of bridges over water, so I made sure not to tell her about this bridge until we were almost upon it. She was brave: even though the sound of the boards clunking underneath our car unnerved her, she was the one who took the pictures. The bridge is one lane with wooden decking. And yes, it's part of a state highway.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver1_zpsjpc5yf3z.jpg&hash=d40d14588fc83088102d7b05f631072e02c8da09)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaver2_zpsxcxhhjhc.jpg&hash=40da56a43dd5d39953b9679ec136fe18145ae774)
With the recent flooding in the area, Beaver Bridge looks a little different now...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FBeaverBr_zpschjgafyz.jpg&hash=9e91e6764c996aba7ac9489f2863b93c85b8c4b3)
Yikes!!! From the "drier days" pictures, it's likely that the approach road(s) were inundated as well. Sympathies to anyone living or traveling in that valley. Similar incidents have occurred in our general area in the past few months, particularly up on the Russian River near Guerneville and Rio Nido (bridges overrun, approaches washed out, etc.).
Tappen zee bridge, but I have not really been on many bridges.
The FM1960 bridge over Lake Houston back when it was two lanes with no shoulders or guardrails...scary as hell when you're 6.
Ye old Cape Girardeau truss bridge.
Either of the bridges at Cairo, IL.
A candidate here, while not nearly as scary as most, is the Northumberland Bridge carrying US 4 over the Hudson River (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1284278,-73.587265,329m/data=!3m1!1e3) between Northumberland and Greenwich, NY. 100 year-old steel deck bridge that is roughly 18 feet wide. It is NOT fun encountering a truck on that thing and 2 trucks cannot safely pass. Due to its length and difficulty in seeing one approach from the other, it should probably have signals restricting it to one-way traffic.
Portsmouth Bridge, in between Maine and New Hampshire....hey, I was 6 at the time.
The two lane SC 41 bridge over the Wando River used to be one of the scariest bridges in the Charleston area. It just got replaced by a high bridge, as it opened this Friday. It was a bridge that opened up, and the lanes were very narrow.
There are scarier bridges, I'm sure, and I've probably crossed some of them. But the Astoria-Megler bridge always freaks me out.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Astoria-Megler_Bridge_%28Clatsop_County%2C_Oregon_scenic_images%29_%28clatDA0002c%29.jpg)
My Mom is scared of all big bridges.
Mackinac Bridge: It was much more unnerving to me crossing it as the driver than when I did as the passenger.
Chesapeake Bay Bridge: Part of this admittedly was that I would be driving over it in the dark when I was exhausted after a miserable travel day from MSP to BWI.
Quote from: Throckmorton on October 21, 2017, 10:36:18 AM
There are scarier bridges, I'm sure, and I've probably crossed some of them. But the Astoria-Megler bridge always freaks me out.
I've driven over it more than a few times, but it's never crossed my mind as being scary. Long, but not scary.
The scary part for me was having to deal with Oregon drivers once I crossed over it.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 21, 2017, 03:59:09 PM
Mackinac Bridge: It was much more unnerving to me crossing it as the driver than when I did as the passenger.
Agreed. I think the difference with this bridge is that it seems to be so much higher than others because of the extremely flat terrain and lack of buildings around it.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 06, 2017, 06:54:58 PM
That's pretty cool, apparently it is the only suspension bridge open in Arkansas. Weird thing is that there is an article on Wikipedia about the Beaver Bridge but not Arkansas 187... At least that's not all that high above the water table.
There is a suspension bridge near Allison in Stone County over Sylamore Creek. It formerly carried AR 14. I visited it in 1996 and drove across it. It is apparently still open to traffic.
http://bridgehunter.com/ar/stone/sylamore/
There is also a suspension bridge in Boone County that was originally an auto bridge but is now only open to pedestrians. It is very narrow.
http://bridgehunter.com/ar/boone/haggards-ford/
The construction of Greers Ferry Lake wiped out several suspension bridges. There was another suspension bridge nearby that survived the dam's construction but collapsed in 1985 when some dumbasses in a church group swang the bridge back and forth, causing it to fail.
http://bridgehunter.com/ar/cleburne/winkley/
Quote from: bugo on November 09, 2017, 08:54:15 PM
swang the bridge back and forth
:-D
Perfect word for such an occurrence.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on May 03, 2017, 04:33:23 PM
Tappen zee bridge, but I have not really been on many bridges.
When I traveled the Metro-North Hudson Line last week, I saw they were tearing that bridge down.
I don't know about scary, but I feel uncomfortable on the lower deck (northbound) Brent Spence Bridge (I-71/I-75 KY to OH). The lanes are narrow, there's a lot of traffic and a lot of cars changing lanes. I typically avoid changing lanes and only drive about 45-50 mph on the bridge.
There were no scary driving bridges. Walking bridges, a few in my hikes were badly eroded.
The US 45 Brookport bridge... At least for my better half. :-D
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 07, 2018, 05:37:56 AM
Walking bridges
Early in my parents' marriage (a few years before I was born), they lived across I-64 from Barnes—Jewish Hospital in Saint Louis. My mom was a nurse at the hospital, and she was walking across
this pedestrian overpass (https://goo.gl/maps/kFF2HarjQv12) on her way home one night when a man attacked her. She beat him off with her purse. Go mom!
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on January 07, 2018, 09:41:45 PM
The US 45 Brookport bridge... At least for my better half. :-D
Same here. My young wife was not amused when I took her across that bridge on our way to Paducah to rent a moving truck. She was even less amused on our way back when she found out there was another, perfectly fine, less scary way across the Ohio–I-24.
If we're doing walking bridges, a disused railroad trestle across a canyon at Stampede Pass, Washington. Out of use for probably 10 years at that point, I think it's been reactivated and rebuilt since. Probably 100 feet high and 1 mile long. No solid decking, just beams about 1 1/2 feet apart except where they were missing. Track had been removed. Solo, no other people within sight or hearing. Generally a stupid thing to do; don't try this at home. But it didn't fall down, and I didn't trip and fall; thanks to the good work of legions of anonymous Chinese 19th century laborers.
Quote from: kkt on January 08, 2018, 04:07:49 PM
If we're doing walking bridges, a disused railroad trestle across a canyon at Stampede Pass, Washington. Out of use for probably 10 years at that point, I think it's been reactivated and rebuilt since. Probably 100 feet high and 1 mile long. No solid decking, just beams about 1 1/2 feet apart except where they were missing. Track had been removed. Solo, no other people within sight or hearing. Generally a stupid thing to do; don't try this at home. But it didn't fall down, and I didn't trip and fall; thanks to the good work of legions of anonymous Chinese 19th century laborers.
Until I was eight years old, I lived at a dead end right by a railroad in New Lenox, IL. Nowadays that track is used by Metra SouthWest Service but, back then in the late 1980s, it was only used by a couple of freight trains a day, and one of those was at night. My friends and I grew up playing along those tracks. One day, we decided to walk along the track farther than we ever had before, and we decided to cross
this trestle (https://goo.gl/maps/7UZZZ5vAstn) over the Rock Island line. There was no solid decking, just railroad ties with empty space between them. When we were halfway across, a train down below on the Rock Island line blew its whistle. HOLY CRAP!!! I thought it was a train directly behind us. I literally jumped back several feet, fortunately landing on another railroad tie and not the space between.
After thinking about I recall the scariest bridge I have ever driven across.
It was the Atherton-Sibley Road Bridge in East Jackson County, MO.
It wasn't well known. It wasn't very long. I'm tempted to say it was built entirley of wood but I can't swear to that.
It was old and creaky and has since been closed and demolished.
I can't find any pics. There is very little information on it.
https://bridgehunter.com/mo/jackson/bh72566/ (https://bridgehunter.com/mo/jackson/bh72566/)
Probably mentioned, but the EB span of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge. Drove that thing last Friday during heavy rain, fog, and high wind and they were banning trucks due to conditions. Probably one of the most white-knuckle driving experiences I have had in a while.
Quote from: theline on October 22, 2017, 11:13:29 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on October 21, 2017, 03:59:09 PM
Mackinac Bridge: It was much more unnerving to me crossing it as the driver than when I did as the passenger.
Agreed. I think the difference with this bridge is that it seems to be so much higher than others because of the extremely flat terrain and lack of buildings around it.
Plus the inside lanes have that slippery see-through grate.
Driving across the Fremont Bridge here used to freak me out. I try to avoid it now :)
As far as footbridges: the Lava Canyon Bridge in Washington http://www.oregonhikers.org/field_guide/Lava_Canyon_Suspension_Bridge
I just found out today that a bridge I crossed in November was defective:
http://uglybridges.com/1384496
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:24-Cold_Spring_MNRR;_2017-11-13.jpg
Sure, I crossed it on foot, but the condition still leaves me a bit cautious.
I've never been truly scared crossing bridges, but there have times I've been uncomfortable on them. The steel grate deck on the old Jamestown Bridge in Rhode Island was one, as my tires would start to shimmy from side to side as I crossed it. The old elevated Central Artery in Boston was another, as I could always feel the deck moving when sitting in stopped or slow moving traffic.
Quote from: kphoger on January 08, 2018, 04:46:39 PM
Until I was eight years old, I lived at a dead end right by a railroad in New Lenox, IL. Nowadays that track is used by Metra SouthWest Service but, back then in the late 1980s, it was only used by a couple of freight trains a day, and one of those was at night. My friends and I grew up playing along those tracks. One day, we decided to walk along the track farther than we ever had before, and we decided to cross this trestle (https://goo.gl/maps/7UZZZ5vAstn) over the Rock Island line. There was no solid decking, just railroad ties with empty space between them. When we were halfway across, a train down below on the Rock Island line blew its whistle. HOLY CRAP!!! I thought it was a train directly behind us. I literally jumped back several feet, fortunately landing on another railroad tie and not the space between.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/Ub5htqCK5XgHu/giphy.gif)
Stephen King owes you money.
I was walking on the Pat Tillman Bridge above the Hoover Dam on US 93 the other day. I've never found said bridge intimidating due to the lack of sway in any of spans. A lot of people taking photos were getting some really nasty vertigo as cars passed by. I suppose the open height doesn't really help matters but I still found it surprising.
I am no fan of the Champlain Bridge into Montreal. They have all kinds of bracing, which will hopefully get us through until the replacement is done. The Gazette, which is the English paper had an article about the obscene amount that is spent to nurse it through to replacement.
In my post of Jan 15,2018 I said I could not find a photo of the Atherton-Sibley Road Bridge.
In the interval someone added the pic below to the entry at Bridgehunter.com
https://bridgehunter.com/mo/jackson/bh72566 (https://bridgehunter.com/mo/jackson/bh72566)
(https://bridgehunter.com/photos/41/67/416747-M.jpg)
I-40 over the Arkansas River at Webber's Falls. A guy I worked and went fishing with named Jimmy Johnson ran off that bridge along with his wife and 3 year old when the barge struck and collapsed it. Creeps me out every time I cross it.
Quote from: MikieTimT on July 12, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
I-40 over the Arkansas River at Webber's Falls. A guy I worked and went fishing with named Jimmy Johnson ran off that bridge along with his wife and 3 year old when the barge struck and collapsed it. Creeps me out every time I cross it.
I drive over that bridge when I go to Arkansas to visit relatives. It is a little unnerving crossing it because of what happened. If you look closely, you can see which spans were replaced. The concrete is lighter and the rails are crooked where the original spans meet the replacement spans.
Quote from: bugo on July 12, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on July 12, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
I-40 over the Arkansas River at Webber's Falls. A guy I worked and went fishing with named Jimmy Johnson ran off that bridge along with his wife and 3 year old when the barge struck and collapsed it. Creeps me out every time I cross it.
I drive over that bridge when I go to Arkansas to visit relatives. It is a little unnerving crossing it because of what happened. If you look closely, you can see which spans were replaced. The concrete is lighter and the rails are crooked where the original spans meet the replacement spans.
I would be a bit more nervous had the bridge collapsed on its own accord. I-35W, for example. I
would be nervous if I saw any barges on the river though!
I think what makes the Mackinac Bridge scary are three things. The length of the bridge, the height of the bridge and the depth of the water in the middle of the span. The bridge is 5 miles long, is 200 feet from the water to the deck in the middle and the water is 250 feet deep in the middle as well.
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 13, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
I think what makes the Mackinac Bridge scary are three things. The length of the bridge, the height of the bridge and the depth of the water in the middle of the span.
Other than the above, and potential for structural instability, there really isn't anything else that
would make a bridge feel unsafe. Bases covered.
Quote from: webny99 on July 13, 2018, 06:24:30 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 13, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
I think what makes the Mackinac Bridge scary are three things. The length of the bridge, the height of the bridge and the depth of the water in the middle of the span.
Other than the above, and potential for structural instability, there really isn't anything else that would make a bridge feel unsafe. Bases covered.
Actually the Mackinac Bridge is a very safe bridge. It might be difficult for some people to cross it due to it swaying and the three things I mentioned before. But that bridge is structurally sound.
I don't really care for the long leadups to the anchorages but they would have probably had to built it like the Bay Bridge with a center anchorage if they had built it suspension bridge all the way across the straits. I would love to stand on top of the south tower 552 feet above the water and see what that view is like.
Just to show what change light bulbs on the Mackinac Bridge is like watch these guys walk up the suspension cables changing light bulbs and then ending at the top of the south tower 552 feet above the Straits of Mackinac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQgQr9t3kQ
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 13, 2018, 11:10:28 PM
Just to show what change light bulbs on the Mackinac Bridge is like watch these guys walk up the suspension cables changing light bulbs and then ending at the top of the south tower 552 feet above the Straits of Mackinac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQgQr9t3kQ
I'll have to show that video to some of my friends out here on the West Coast, they don't believe my description of a Mid-West accent. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 14, 2018, 12:28:08 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 13, 2018, 11:10:28 PM
Just to show what change light bulbs on the Mackinac Bridge is like watch these guys walk up the suspension cables changing light bulbs and then ending at the top of the south tower 552 feet above the Straits of Mackinac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQgQr9t3kQ
I'll have to show that video to some of my friends out here on the West Coast, they don't believe my description of a Mid-West accent. :rolleyes:
Lol, about 6 years ago I was sitting in Schaller's Pump on the Southside of Chicago about a mile or so west of Comiskey Park and was up at the bar having a beer and a guy from Milwaukee was sitting next to me and then a White Sox fan was sitting on the other side of him and they were talking I believe they were together, the guy from Milwaukee was a Tigers fan. So I overheard them say something about accents and I said what's a Chicago accent? I've never heard of one. He said, you've got one. At that time I said that's crazy I've never heard that before.
I guess when you're use to hearing everyone speak the same way for the most part you get so use to it that you don't notice that you have an accent. I can talk with a Boston accent for hours and can fool people into thinking that I'm really from Boston. It must sound like some Midwest/Boston accent combined lol.
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 14, 2018, 01:11:20 AM
Lol, about 6 years ago I was sitting in Schaller's Pump on the Southside of Chicago about a mile or so west of Comiskey Park and was up at the bar having a beer and a guy from Milwaukee was sitting next to me and then a White Sox fan was sitting on the other side of him and they were talking I believe they were together, the guy from Milwaukee was a Tigers fan. So I overheard them say something about accents and I said what's a Chicago accent? I've never heard of one. He said, you've got one. At that time I said that's crazy I've never heard that before.
I guess when you're use to hearing everyone speak the same way for the most part you get so use to it that you don't notice that you have an accent. I can talk with a Boston accent for hours and can fool people into thinking that I'm really from Boston. It must sound like some Midwest/Boston accent combined lol.
Short definition of a Chicago accent: Using "da" instead of "the". :)
Quote from: SSR_317 on July 15, 2018, 11:39:56 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 14, 2018, 01:11:20 AM
Lol, about 6 years ago I was sitting in Schaller's Pump on the Southside of Chicago about a mile or so west of Comiskey Park and was up at the bar having a beer and a guy from Milwaukee was sitting next to me and then a White Sox fan was sitting on the other side of him and they were talking I believe they were together, the guy from Milwaukee was a Tigers fan. So I overheard them say something about accents and I said what's a Chicago accent? I've never heard of one. He said, you've got one. At that time I said that's crazy I've never heard that before.
I guess when you're use to hearing everyone speak the same way for the most part you get so use to it that you don't notice that you have an accent. I can talk with a Boston accent for hours and can fool people into thinking that I'm really from Boston. It must sound like some Midwest/Boston accent combined lol.
Short definition of a Chicago accent: Using "da" instead of "the". :)
Nobody remembers "da Bears" skit on Saturday Night Live anymore much to my dismay. What I find odd is all my Grand Parents and Cousins have a Minnesota Accent but for whatever reason I talk like someone from the Southeast despite being raised in Detroit. I guess most variations of the Midwest accent are dying out, I hear it less and less with each passing generation.
The bridge that I have come to dread crossing ( well really just feel uneasy about it that is, the times that I do have to cross it) when visiting South Padre Island is the Queen Isabella Memorial Causeway.
Due to the fact that back in September 15, 2001 the bridge had been damaged by large a barge's that collided smack right into the giant pillars of the center of the bridge and caused sections of the bridges highest point to fall off! This had happened in the early hours of the morning (2:00-4:00 am). This caused the loss of a few lives, when cars that were crossing it at full speed really were not aware of what had happened and well some just plunged right off down into the water.
Though back to crossing it.
Every time I approach and cross over it, especially the highest point I can't help but think about that tragic event and a bad feeling is felt.
The links below are articles remembering that tragic day.
https://worldhistoryproject.org/2001/9/15/queen-isabella-causeway-collapse
http://doccbradford.com/remembering-the-bridge-collapse/
Quote from: SSR_317 on July 15, 2018, 11:39:56 PM
Short definition of a Chicago accent: Using "da" instead of "the". :)
D's, T's, and TH's all sound like a hybrid of the three. The long "O" sound comes out of the back of the throat rather than the front. Short "A's" sound more annoying than usual. Short "O" sounds are extra nasal.
For some reason, every car dealer here has the accent. You hear car commercials on the radio and the accents are THICK. But everyone else sounds normal?? Lol it's so weird.
Oh--and "boat" is a two-syllable word.
I-4 West crossing Socrum Loop Road in Lakeland. As I maintain 80 mph on the freeway as far away as Orlando to about Tampa, when I get to that particular crossing I cannot get my foot to maintain that speed. I always slow down to 65 for some reason.
If I did not know better I swear that crossing is haunted by a fatality victim from a previous crash there. I did hear from many the Sunshine Skyway Bridge is that way and even I have trouble maintaining the posted 65 there as spirits from the Summit Lauren Crash and a USCGC ship that sank nearby haunt that and was even once featured on a cable TV program.
Anything is possible
Quote from: roadman65 on July 18, 2018, 10:31:16 PM
I-4 West crossing Socrum Loop Road in Lakeland. As I maintain 80 mph on the freeway as far away as Orlando to about Tampa, when I get to that particular crossing I cannot get my foot to maintain that speed. I always slow down to 65 for some reason.
If I did not know better I swear that crossing is haunted by a fatality victim from a previous crash there. I did hear from many the Sunshine Skyway Bridge is that way and even I have trouble maintaining the posted 65 there as spirits from the Summit Lauren Crash and a USCGC ship that sank nearby haunt that and was even once featured on a cable TV program.
Anything is possible
The freighter that hit the old southbound Skyway span was the
Summit Venture. The Coast Guard vessel that capsized as the result of a collision with another ship near the old Skyway (but did not hit either span), which occurred a few months before the
Summit Venture collision with the bridge, was the
Blackthorn.
For those who are interested in both accidents, the book
Skyway - The Story of Tampa Bay's Signature Bridge and The Man Who Brought It Down is well worth reading.
However, this is the first I've heard that the current Sunshine Skyway span may be haunted by ghosts from either of those past events.
As a child - Delaware Memorial Bridge (when it was still a single span). Just something about it looked spooky.
As an adult - Chesapeake Bay Bridge and Sunshine Skyway Bridge (the new one). Re the latter, when I drove over and got to the top of the span, marine haze prevented me from seeing the other end of the crossing and that *really* freaked me out.
The collapsed bridge in Genoa, Italy. Of course, before it went down. I crossed it in 2010 by coach.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on August 20, 2018, 07:14:44 AM
The collapsed bridge in Genoa, Italy. Of course, before it went down. I crossed it in 2010 by coach.
It's probably only scary in hindsight; as opposed to you being scared during your actual crossing.
Quote from: webny99 on August 20, 2018, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on August 20, 2018, 07:14:44 AM
The collapsed bridge in Genoa, Italy. Of course, before it went down. I crossed it in 2010 by coach.
It's probably only scary in hindsight; as opposed to you being scared during your actual crossing.
True. Have they determined yet whether the cause of failure was due to design or due to maintenance issues? If due to design, then your crossing in 2010 was not safe and you are lucky to have survived. If due to maintenance, then it may have been perfectly fine in 2010 and failure of maintenance has led to the collapse.
Quote from: dave1013 on August 16, 2018, 06:12:16 PM
As a child - Delaware Memorial Bridge (when it was still a single span). Just something about it looked spooky.
As an adult - Chesapeake Bay Bridge and Sunshine Skyway Bridge (the new one). Re the latter, when I drove over and got to the top of the span, marine haze prevented me from seeing the other end of the crossing and that *really* freaked me out.
I must be some kind of freak, because none of those bridges scare me at all.
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0390421,-120.4551459,3a,75y,83.61h,83.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPo4WHaRedqApfEKpNgRXwQ!2e0!5s20180501T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en this one was scary i was in sixth grade then and it was two laned bridge over an almost dry lake in a 200ft long shuttle bus
In September 2015 I took a couple of pictures of a bridge over the LIRR Montauk Branch:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NB_River_Avenue,_Eastport,_NY;_Narrow_Bridge.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NB_River_Avenue,_Eastport,_NY;_Wooden_Bridge.JPG
That's River Avenue.
Over three years later, I took these pictures of the Centre Street Bridge over the Metro-North New Haven Line and Northeast Corridor in New Rochelle, New York.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Centre_Avenue_Bridges;_New_Rochelle,_NY-1.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Centre_Avenue_Bridges;_New_Rochelle,_NY-4.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Centre_Avenue_Bridges;_New_Rochelle,_NY-5.jpg
Both bridges have weight limits of three tons, but despite the fact that the Eastport bridge is made of wood, I'm actually more afraid of crossing the bridge in New Rochelle. That one has more traffic and a greater risk of being worn down.
Quote from: mrose on April 22, 2013, 05:04:11 AM
4. Highway 47 over the Missouri River in eastern Missouri. Super old and narrow cantilever which I think has been rated structurally deficient for some time now.
Went back and found my old post.
This one is now gone-ski.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/3636+FM+2611,+Brazoria,+TX+77422/@28.9514301,-95.5536635,3a,75y,254.94h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scpCW1kxfIC4wAFx8hNJ7RQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x864047e657025931:0xf100da4a9c606255
Since I just started driving last year, my scariest bridge may not be so scary to some, but to a 16 year old driver, a narrow bridge signed at 60 mph is a nightmare.
Possibly one of the various wooden covered bridges of Parke County, Indiana, driving my mom's red dodge caravan as a 17-year-old. This isn't one of the jankiest ones, but it's one of the few I can view in GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/ST6aAB6wyaQWeCMr9
Quote from: golden eagle on June 15, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
The Huey Long Bridge in New Orleans, because it feels like it sways. It's currently under reconstruction so I hope it will be better.
No really scary, but the U.S. 80 bridge between Vicksburg and the Louisiana border is very narrow.
The Huey P Long Bridge was indeed scary before they widened it. I have been across it before during and after the construction.
The US 80 bridge at Vicksburg was another narrow one. I never crossed it with two way traffic. I did however cross it with westbound I-20 traffic detoured across it. I did get passed by an 18-wheeler. I was going 50 + MPH and I was 16. Traffic was barely slowed down crossing Washington Street and were at Highway speed all the way to the turn near I-20 at Delta LA. 1976 or 1977.
But me the worst one was US-59 at Index (the Red River north of Texarkana). I never drove across it, but it was narrow. I once saw two trucks clip each others' mirrors. Dad was a nervous wreck.
Quote from: Brandon on August 01, 2011, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: Mdcastle on July 23, 2011, 06:03:53 PM
The Fort Madison toll bridge. I had the misfortune to be stuck on an approach when the middle was open for ships.
This one?
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I thought it was a blast to drive.
I was going to start a thread on the driving experience on this bridge, but the fact that it's on this list is enough for me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Madison_Toll_Bridge
Somehow, I don't think there would be enough about it to scare me.
I hate those narrow Mississippi River bridges that lack a shoulder.
From what I said in my previous post I still hate those long narrow bridges with no shoulders. Well I crossed the Ohio River on US-45 last night and just went the 25 mph speed limit, as I was about halfway across I thought this isn't too bad but I don't like this bridge. It's obviously a single lane in each direction and the deck is steel grated.
I crossed from Kentucky into Illinois on I-24 but coming back I had Paducah as my destination so I used the US-45 Brookport Bridge.
https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2020/11/30/mta-shuts-down-verrazzano-bridge-amid-wild-winds-and-rain/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D
This bridge I have driven across but not like this. So it counts as scary.
Quote from: roadman65 on December 02, 2020, 09:54:38 AM
https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2020/11/30/mta-shuts-down-verrazzano-bridge-amid-wild-winds-and-rain/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D
This bridge I have driven across but not like this. So it counts as scary.
That video makes me think of the incident in the 1970s when the huge US flag was hung from the cables and the wind then ripped it apart.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 01, 2020, 08:03:43 AM
From what I said in my previous post I still hate those long narrow bridges with no shoulders. Well I crossed the Ohio River on US-45 last night and just went the 25 mph speed limit, as I was about halfway across I thought this isn't too bad but I don't like this bridge. It's obviously a single lane in each direction and the deck is steel grated.
I crossed from Kentucky into Illinois on I-24 but coming back I had Paducah as my destination so I used the US-45 Brookport Bridge.
At night? Crap! Yeah, I wouldn't want to drive that bridge after dark.
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2020, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 01, 2020, 08:03:43 AM
From what I said in my previous post I still hate those long narrow bridges with no shoulders. Well I crossed the Ohio River on US-45 last night and just went the 25 mph speed limit, as I was about halfway across I thought this isn't too bad but I don't like this bridge. It's obviously a single lane in each direction and the deck is steel grated.
I crossed from Kentucky into Illinois on I-24 but coming back I had Paducah as my destination so I used the US-45 Brookport Bridge.
At night? Crap! Yeah, I wouldn't want to drive that bridge after dark.
It was later in the afternoon starting to get dark out. It kind of feels creepy crossing it. I didn't mind the steel deck but the lack of shoulders was annoying.
Quote from: roadman65 on December 02, 2020, 09:54:38 AM
https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2020/11/30/mta-shuts-down-verrazzano-bridge-amid-wild-winds-and-rain/amp/?amp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D
This bridge I have driven across but not like this. So it counts as scary.
And for awhile on Monday, the Verrazzano was doing this:
https://twitter.com/firenzemike/status/1334164629778477059
(Edited to add second z; thanks)
Verrazzano...and I'd rather have it flex than not.
Looks like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
Quote from: Rothman on December 02, 2020, 11:52:44 PM
Verrazzano...and I'd rather have it flex than not.
I believe it was designed to flex under wind stress to avoid collapse, especially Hurricanes..
I think I'd avoid the Verrazzano just because of the price of the toll. It's like $20 to cross it but only in the Staten Island bound direction so going towards Brooklyn you don't have to pay but coming back you get nailed with a $20 toll.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
I think I'd avoid the Verrazzano just because of the price of the toll. It's like $20 to cross it but only in the Staten Island bound direction so going towards Brooklyn you don't have to pay but coming back you get nailed with a $20 toll.
It is back to two way tolling courtesy of semis shunpiking for good reason. They were using streets of Lower Manhattan to get to NJ creating problems. So they reinstated two way tolling again.
Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2020, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
I think I'd avoid the Verrazzano just because of the price of the toll. It's like $20 to cross it but only in the Staten Island bound direction so going towards Brooklyn you don't have to pay but coming back you get nailed with a $20 toll.
It is back to two way tolling courtesy of semis shunpiking for good reason. They were using streets of Lower Manhattan to get to NJ creating problems. So they reinstated two way tolling again.
That's good. Hopefully they off set the price of the toll and don't charge $20 in each direction, should be $10 which I still think is too high. Seriously if you live in Staten Island or Brooklyn you should be able to cross the bridge for a lower rate.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2020, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
I think I'd avoid the Verrazzano just because of the price of the toll. It's like $20 to cross it but only in the Staten Island bound direction so going towards Brooklyn you don't have to pay but coming back you get nailed with a $20 toll.
It is back to two way tolling courtesy of semis shunpiking for good reason. They were using streets of Lower Manhattan to get to NJ creating problems. So they reinstated two way tolling again.
That's good. Hopefully they off set the price of the toll and don't charge $20 in each direction, should be $10 which I still think is too high. Seriously if you live in Staten Island or Brooklyn you should be able to cross the bridge for a lower rate.
Staten Island residents do get a break but Brooklyn residents don't.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2020, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
I think I'd avoid the Verrazzano just because of the price of the toll. It's like $20 to cross it but only in the Staten Island bound direction so going towards Brooklyn you don't have to pay but coming back you get nailed with a $20 toll.
It is back to two way tolling courtesy of semis shunpiking for good reason. They were using streets of Lower Manhattan to get to NJ creating problems. So they reinstated two way tolling again.
That's good. Hopefully they off set the price of the toll and don't charge $20 in each direction, should be $10 which I still think is too high. Seriously if you live in Staten Island or Brooklyn you should be able to cross the bridge for a lower rate.
It was $19.00 westbound. It's now $9.50 each way (makes sense). Staten Island residents are eligible for a discount, which was started because they pay a toll every time they return to the island.
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 19, 2020, 10:08:31 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 03, 2020, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 03, 2020, 09:44:16 AM
I think I'd avoid the Verrazzano just because of the price of the toll. It's like $20 to cross it but only in the Staten Island bound direction so going towards Brooklyn you don't have to pay but coming back you get nailed with a $20 toll.
It is back to two way tolling courtesy of semis shunpiking for good reason. They were using streets of Lower Manhattan to get to NJ creating problems. So they reinstated two way tolling again.
That's good. Hopefully they off set the price of the toll and don't charge $20 in each direction, should be $10 which I still think is too high. Seriously if you live in Staten Island or Brooklyn you should be able to cross the bridge for a lower rate.
It was $19.00 westbound. It's now $9.50 each way (makes sense). Staten Island residents are eligible for a discount, which was started because they pay a toll every time they return to the island.
Right. When looking at the NYC area tolls, it pays to view them as a system rather than as an individual toll. To cross from west of Hudson (NJ, Rockland county) to east of Hudson (Staten Island, Manhattan, Westchester) you pay a toll, but you don't pay a toll in the reverse (westbound) direction. The southern crossings run by the port authority are the most expensive and then the tolls are cheaper further north. There is at least some toll to be paid to cross the Hudson relatively far north until you reach the Albany area.
The toll crossings that connect the land mass of Long Island (Brooklyn and Queens) to other parts of the city are run by the MTA. These include bridges to the Bronx, two tunnels to Manhattan, and the Verrazano bridge to Staten Island. The Triboro bridge connects Queens to either Bronx or Manhattan. With the change in the tolling on the Verrazano, these are now all $9.50 each way (cash rate, but EZ Pass discounts may apply). So if you are in Brooklyn/Queens and are heading to New Jersey, regardless of whether you travel via Staten Island, Manhattan, or Bronx you pay $9.50 on your first crossing and then the crossing to New Jersey would be free. However, NYC runs 4 bridges between Queens/Brooklyn and Manhattan that are currently free in both directions. So if you instead use a NYC bridge (Queensboro, Williamsburg, Manhattan, Brooklyn), you can go from Brooklyn/Queens to NJ entirely free.
So basically, for travel between NJ and Brooklyn/Queens, unless you use one of the 4 free bridges, you will be paying the same rate regardless of whether you use a combination of Goethals/Verrazano, Lincoln Tunnel/Midtown Tunnel, or George Washington Bridge (GWB)/Triboro (or other equivalent combinations).
And yes, the administrators of the MTA basically allow for a Staten Island resident discount since you must always pay a toll of some kind to return home. Brooklyn residents can still use the free bridges to basically reach anywhere. It may be quicker to use a toll facility, but it isn't strictly necessary.
There are plans to eventually toll the 4 free bridges under a Manhattan congestion pricing scheme for most travelers. This got delayed due to coronavirus. Based on my understanding of the proposed plan, you can still cross the bridges for free so long as you don't enter the surface streets of Manhattan below 59th street. So you can cross the Brooklyn Bridge and reach FDR drive (a parkway) for free as long as you don't exit in lower Manhattan, and you can cross the Queensboro Bridge for free so long as you only drive to the north of 59th when you land in Manhattan. But the Manhattan Bridge and Williamsburg Bridge empty out onto streets so those crossing would be subject to congestion pricing.
The main purpose of congestion pricing is to raise revenue, but I beleive a secondary purpose would be to allow crossings that avoid the Manhattan CBD to be cheaper. So driving from Brooklyn to NJ would be cheaper via Staten Island (or Bronx) than via Manhattan surface streets to reach the Holland or Lincoln Tunnels. Presumably, it would still be free if you use the Brooklyn Bridge to the FDR Drive to the GWB or the Queensboro Bridge and drive north on some Upper East side surface streets to the FDR to the GWB.
I use to know which bridge was the furthest south bridge without a toll. Just thinking off the top of my head it's the bridge where US-9 and 20 both cross the Hudson.
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 28, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
I use to know which bridge was the furthest south bridge without a toll. Just thinking off the top of my head it's the bridge where US-9 and 20 both cross the Hudson.
That is correct. It connects Downtown Albany to Rennselaer and is also known as the Dunn Memorial Bridge.
Quote from: mrsman on December 28, 2020, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 28, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
I use to know which bridge was the furthest south bridge without a toll. Just thinking off the top of my head it's the bridge where US-9 and 20 both cross the Hudson.
That is correct. It connects Downtown Albany to Rennselaer and is also known as the Dunn Memorial Bridge.
Right. I've crossed that bridge before. I didn't know the name of it.
Quote from: mrsman on December 28, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
.... (cash rate, but EZ Pass discounts may apply) ....
No more cash tolls on the TBTA facilities. They did away with them and it's now E-ZPass or toll-by-plate.
I have driven the Verrazano Bridge many times, but theses photos sho the structure as dangerous.
https://www.silive.com/news/2021/01/2-staten-island-bridges-named-among-the-scariest-for-truckers.html
Quote from: roadman65 on March 22, 2021, 09:13:27 AM
I have driven the Verrazano Bridge many times, but theses photos sho the structure as dangerous.
https://www.silive.com/news/2021/01/2-staten-island-bridges-named-among-the-scariest-for-truckers.html
Those photos do nothing of the kind. The bridge is safe.
Driving a truck, especially unloaded, during a hurricane is dangerous.
Here's one that I found a bit intimidating as a newly licensed driver (more intimidating than scary).
The bridge over the Apalachicola River on FL 20 between Bristol and Blountstown back in the late 1970s. Back then the original 1938 bridge carried both directions of FL 20, and the combination of narrowness, curvature, length, and height made the 18 year old version of me a bit nervous. This is one of the better pictures I found of the old span - although the picture is from 1947, it looked about the same in the late 1970's except for improved striping.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.littletownmart.com%2Ffdh%2F47-tally1.jpg&hash=0bb7e981215382604a3a98b40ba9bff78b62cbfe)
Nowadays, a parallel bridge has been built (1998) carrying two lanes eastbound, and the old bridge now carries one (!) lane westbound.
Here is a relatively current GSV of approximately the same vantage point, looking east on the westbound bridge. Not nearly as intimidating. It does look a tad wider as well.
http://www.google.com/maps/@30.4399291,-85.0026323,3a,75y,127.61h,74.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snV6rOPoYljLcKK_VTXH8zw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (http://www.google.com/maps/@30.4399291,-85.0026323,3a,75y,127.61h,74.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snV6rOPoYljLcKK_VTXH8zw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Nowadays it wouldn't get a second look from me.
The only bridge I thought I'd cross on a whim, but then decided not to was the Tunnel Road bridge across the Deerfield River near the Hoosac Tunnel's east portal.
Probably should have just crossed it. Don't really know why I chickened out.
I drove across the Mackinac Bridge twice yesterday in the rain and fog and didn't feel intimidated one bit.
This probably was a top ten for me:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29001.0
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2021, 05:07:40 PM
This probably was a top ten for me:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29001.0
Yikes! My '02 Camry weighs a lot less than 5 tons, and I wouldn't touch that thing. Somebody get CalDOT to build a replacement and reserve the old bridge for pedestrians!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/51105560442/
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 22, 2021, 10:46:53 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 20, 2021, 05:07:40 PM
This probably was a top ten for me:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29001.0
Yikes! My '02 Camry weighs a lot less than 5 tons, and I wouldn't touch that thing. Somebody get CDOT to build a replacement and reserve the old bridge for pedestrians!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/51105560442/
El Dorado County is slated to build a replacement and preserve the existing bridge. The most daunting part wasn't the bridge of the weight limit, it was the approach inclines on both sides. The southbound decline in particular is very steep and only sporadically wide enough for two vehicles. I had a blast driving over the structure a couple times, definitely was the worth the effort to get something unique/intimidating in.
I recently drove across the Sam Houston Ship Channel Bridge. I'm not generally bothered by high bridges, but that one was REALLY high!
I used to not be afraid of the Chesapeake Bay Bridges (US 50-301), and part of the reason I took it was to spite all the people who were afraid of them. The other part was that there were sometimes places I wanted to go along US 301 in Delaware or that part of Maryland.
After seeing this video, I might become one of the people afraid of that bridge now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5yV-DPOBc
Haven't driven over any scary bridges. At least not yet.
Now, and I realize this is somewhat off-topic, but two of the most beautiful bridges, in my opinion, that I've driven over are the Astoria-Megler Bridge and the Deception Pass Bridge.
While I don't drive, as a pedestrian, the Duck Bridge in Lawrence had a whole bunch of loose planks (when stepped on) to the point where I felt like I was going to fall. Most of those planks have been replaced with new ones that are a different color from the existing ones (so you can tell which ones they are), but it's not quite fixed entirely.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:13 AM
I used to not be afraid of the Chesapeake Bay Bridges (US 50-301), and part of the reason I took it was to spite all the people who were afraid of them. The other part was that there were sometimes places I wanted to go along US 301 in Delaware or that part of Maryland.
After seeing this video, I might become one of the people afraid of that bridge now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5yV-DPOBc
I kept waiting for something to happen. A semi in the middle lane that didn't belong there, but it was keeping in its lane. I've encountered similar drivers who can't read, but it looked like any of literally hundreds of crossings I've done.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:13 AM
I used to not be afraid of the Chesapeake Bay Bridges (US 50-301), and part of the reason I took it was to spite all the people who were afraid of them. The other part was that there were sometimes places I wanted to go along US 301 in Delaware or that part of Maryland.
After seeing this video, I might become one of the people afraid of that bridge now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5yV-DPOBc
Why is there 2-way traffic when both spans are being used?
Quote from: Terry Shea on April 10, 2023, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:13 AM
I used to not be afraid of the Chesapeake Bay Bridges (US 50-301), and part of the reason I took it was to spite all the people who were afraid of them. The other part was that there were sometimes places I wanted to go along US 301 in Delaware or that part of Maryland.
After seeing this video, I might become one of the people afraid of that bridge now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5yV-DPOBc
Why is there 2-way traffic when both spans are being used?
Traffic balancing. The other (older) eastbound span is only two lanes. Especially on summer weekends, there is a lot of vacation traffic heading east over the bridge towards the beaches of Maryland and Delaware - much more so than the amount of traffic heading west. By using the "swing" lane on the newer bridge as a third eastbound lane, more traffic can be pushed though.
Quote from: Terry Shea on April 10, 2023, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:13 AM
I used to not be afraid of the Chesapeake Bay Bridges (US 50-301), and part of the reason I took it was to spite all the people who were afraid of them. The other part was that there were sometimes places I wanted to go along US 301 in Delaware or that part of Maryland.
After seeing this video, I might become one of the people afraid of that bridge now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5yV-DPOBc
Why is there 2-way traffic when both spans are being used?
Beach traffic.
Crossing the I-10 Mississippi River bridge in free flow traffic is not particularly scary. However, the frequent traffic queues on that bridge (particularly EB) means that it is fairly common to sit in stopped traffic suspended high above the river. At that point you cannot fail to notice that the roadbed noticeably shakes with the heavy truck traffic. I understand that this is part of the design to some extent, but it is quite unnerving.
I can't think of getting scared of any bridge I have driven across.
But, this bridge is one I chickened out on driving across -- old truss with wooden deck that leads to nowhere...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qVYeceLQuu6R1Q5p6
I used to refuse to drive the Mackinac Bridge, but I've conquered that demon and then some. I've drive it now like it's no big thing, although I still need to listen to my comfort music. But I've done the Mackinac Bridge Walk in 2019, 2021 and 2022.
I was looking forward to conquering the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in Florida in February, except I had to detour on my way into St. Pete. My dad admitted to me only recently that that bridge gave him the heebie-jeebies when he drove on it when we vacationed down there in 1989.
Quote from: kennyshark64 on June 09, 2023, 08:49:01 AM
I used to refuse to drive the Mackinac Bridge, but I've conquered that demon and then some. I've drive it now like it's no big thing, although I still need to listen to my comfort music. But I've done the Mackinac Bridge Walk in 2019, 2021 and 2022.
I was looking forward to conquering the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in Florida in February, except I had to detour on my way into St. Pete. My dad admitted to me only recently that that bridge gave him the heebie-jeebies when he drove on it when we vacationed down there in 1989.
When I start at the Mackinac Bridge I put on The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald by the late great Gordon Lightfoot, as I start I put the cruise at 45 mph which is the Mackinac Bridge speed limit and soak in the moment every time it still sends chills down my spine to drive across it. The Wreck Of the Edmund Fitzgerald ends about as I'm slowing down for the toll booth, perfect timing and listening to that song with two of the Great Lakes within view is the best.
The scariest bridge I had to drive over was the "Rainbow Bridge" in Orange County, TX. This was back in the 1980s.
My supervisor at the time was too scared to drive it in our work truck, so I had to take the wheel. :-D
According to Wikipedia:
Veterans Memorial Bridge
In 1988, construction began on the Veterans Memorial Bridge, a cable-stayed bridge. This bridge runs parallel to the Rainbow Bridge, and was dedicated on September 8, 1990. With a vertical clearance of 143 feet (44 m), the bridge is somewhat shorter than its neighbor and has 640 feet (200 m) long main span.
After the completion of the Veterans Memorial Bridge, the Rainbow Bridge was closed for renovations. On its re-opening in 1997, the Rainbow Bridge became one way, handling westbound traffic only. The Veterans Memorial Bridge serves eastbound traffic.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/RainbowBridge_%28Texas%29.jpg/1280px-RainbowBridge_%28Texas%29.jpg)
Doesn't letting someone else drive usually just make the effects of vertigo worse?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 09, 2024, 09:54:40 AM
Doesn't letting someone else drive usually just make the effects of vertigo worse?
I dunno but I do recall that my supervisor basically was looking down towards the floorboard and had his hand up by his forehead. :-D
I will admit that I had a tight grip on the steering wheel and my focus was straight ahead. My head nor eyes never ventured from the lane ahead.
Quote from: Rothman on March 31, 2021, 12:08:11 AM
The only bridge I thought I'd cross on a whim, but then decided not to was the Tunnel Road bridge across the Deerfield River near the Hoosac Tunnel's east portal.
Probably should have just crossed it. Don't really know why I chickened out.
Yep, still the only bridge I chickened out on.
99.99% of bridges just aren't scary.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 09, 2024, 09:54:40 AM
Doesn't letting someone else drive usually just make the effects of vertigo worse?
Closing your eyes is only an option if you're not the driver.
Seattle's Alaskan Way Viaduct was disturbing, especially after the Nisqually earthquake of 2001. Seeing those steel reinforcements bolted on would make a person think twice.
The Grace Memorial Bridge over the Cooper River in Charleston, SC was interesting. Not a lot of lane width on that bridge!
The US-377/SH-99 bridge over the Washita River south of Tishomingo, OK was in dire need of repair before a flood put it out of its misery in 2015. I drove over that bridge daily while I was in college, and it seemed to get worse every day. There were a few more county bridges in the area (Mannsville and Greasy Bend) that looked like they were from another era.
Quote from: Robinsml on March 15, 2024, 11:25:41 PM
Seattle's Alaskan Way Viaduct was disturbing, especially after the Nisqually earthquake of 2001. Seeing those steel reinforcements bolted on would make a person think twice.
Reinforcements make the bridge stronger...
Quote from: davewiecking on April 08, 2023, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 06, 2023, 12:34:13 AM
I used to not be afraid of the Chesapeake Bay Bridges (US 50-301), and part of the reason I took it was to spite all the people who were afraid of them. The other part was that there were sometimes places I wanted to go along US 301 in Delaware or that part of Maryland.
After seeing this video, I might become one of the people afraid of that bridge now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_5yV-DPOBc
I kept waiting for something to happen. A semi in the middle lane that didn't belong there, but it was keeping in its lane. I've encountered similar drivers who can't read, but it looked like any of literally hundreds of crossings I've done.
Then when he came off the bridge I found myself thinking that going 75 mph on Kent Island is an easy way to get a hefty ticket, especially driving a truck.
I went on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge twice before, neither of those scared me.
The scariest bridge I've been on is the US 50 Ocean City Bridge. That was only somewhat scary when I crossed it by foot.
A lot of bridges that are interesting seemingly are seemingly being construed as "scary" in this thread.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 16, 2024, 01:54:35 PM
A lot of bridges that are interesting seemingly are seemingly being construed as "scary" in this thread.
wut
Not so much scary as tense was driving across the old Goethals Bridge due to the narrow lanes. Also, the ramp from the Verrazzano Bridge to the Belt Pkwy for the same reason.
Quote from: PColumbus73 on March 23, 2024, 10:43:29 AM
Not so much scary as tense was driving across the old Goethals Bridge due to the narrow lanes. Also, the ramp from the Verrazzano Bridge to the Belt Pkwy for the same reason.
Just drove that ramp this past weekend...again. No big deal.
Quote from: Rothman on March 23, 2024, 07:58:52 PMQuote from: PColumbus73 on March 23, 2024, 10:43:29 AMNot so much scary as tense was driving across the old Goethals Bridge due to the narrow lanes. Also, the ramp from the Verrazzano Bridge to the Belt Pkwy for the same reason.
Just drove that ramp this past weekend...again. No big deal.
That bridge has never scared me either.
Probably the Mackinac Bridge since its the only long bridge I have driven over but to me it isn't that scary.
I drive across the San Mateo Bridge often, and while it's a fairly boring bridge, in high winds it gets scary real quick. You'd think the high rise section, but no the causeway makes your car feel like its going to blow into San Francisco Bay.
The old Evergreen Point Bridge, SR 520 from Seattle to Medina. Narrow lines, no shoulders, in high winds waves would wash into the traffic lanes - they'd close it when that happened, but only after the first few cars had a special car wash, no extra charge.
Quote from: kkt on March 26, 2024, 03:02:46 PMThe old Evergreen Point Bridge, SR 520 from Seattle to Medina. Narrow lines, no shoulders, in high winds waves would wash into the traffic lanes - they'd close it when that happened, but only after the first few cars had a special car wash, no extra charge.
How does that compare to NY 25 between East Marion and Orient?
https://youtu.be/v-B3j83ozJk?si=uehEePegZfUfNR-Z
Here are people who won't drive the Chesapeake Bay Bridge in Maryland.
A special ride share drives the bridge for them.
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 26, 2024, 10:43:41 PMQuote from: kkt on March 26, 2024, 03:02:46 PMThe old Evergreen Point Bridge, SR 520 from Seattle to Medina. Narrow lines, no shoulders, in high winds waves would wash into the traffic lanes - they'd close it when that happened, but only after the first few cars had a special car wash, no extra charge.
How does that compare to NY 25 between East Marion and Orient?
I don't know, I've never been on NY 25.
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Some that probably get interesting during flood season in the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
Acton Grade Bridge at the East Fork Chowchilla River
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53459935286_a68a2afa32_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ps59fb)IMG_0038 (https://flic.kr/p/2ps59fb) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Michigan Bar Road Bridge at the Cosumnes River
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53604889693_e9824831f7_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pET596)0 (https://flic.kr/p/2pET596) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Crossing a million-dollar bridge (literally cost $1m to build):
https://youtu.be/ET_MnC_pFPs?si=TVFgxIIhamtDr_6d
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 03, 2024, 10:35:04 PMSome that probably get interesting during flood season in the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
Acton Grade Bridge at the East Fork Chowchilla River
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53459935286_a68a2afa32_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ps59fb)IMG_0038 (https://flic.kr/p/2ps59fb) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Looks like one of those temporary ramp bridges laid down by tanks.