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National Boards => General Highway Talk => Traffic Control => Topic started by: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM

Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
So since the "Worst of" thread seems to be getting filled with signs that are not "Worst of" I decided to create this. This is for all those interesting, odd, unique, bad (but not worst) and good (but not best) signs. I personally like looking at signs of all types and I think this is a good spot for those that are worth looking at, but not necessarily one of the extremes.

I'll submit one here:

http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 04, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpjObipl.jpg&hash=c0df5c84624b3c118140bb096ad73e2acd72c51f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 04, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 12:08:10 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 04, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpjObipl.jpg&hash=c0df5c84624b3c118140bb096ad73e2acd72c51f)

Now that's the idea!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 12:10:04 AM
Quote from: sammi on December 04, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?

The WB entrance a few hundred feet prior has the long arrow on one side for left turners and the diagonal arrow you are referring to on the other side

http://goo.gl/maps/gq0zY
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 05, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 04:10:22 PM
looks like maybe the 2A fell off or deteriorated and was replaced with that larger bolder font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 05, 2013, 04:38:34 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/714/21071890684_a6d571c73b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/y73WY5)

Condo association was told they couldn't have an impaled head-on-a-stick, so they improvised.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 05, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 05, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 05, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 05, 2013, 04:38:34 PM
Condo association was hold they couldn't have an impaled head-on-a-stick, so they improvised.

LOL. love improvisation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: getemngo on December 05, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 05, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 05, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.

At first I thought you meant the numbers "495" were censored somewhere, which the software sometimes does automatically, thinking it's a license plate.

That is weird... the blackout goes from the south end of Exit 32 to just north of Exit 27. Usually if it hasn't been driven, it won't let you place the marker there at all. And all the southbound on-/off-ramps in that stretch have been driven and are fine. Technical difficulties?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 05, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 04, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?

One of the peculiarities of MassDPW/MassHighway guide sign standards.  As the sign in question is inside the gore of an entrance ramp to a freeway, it's treated like an oversized "paddle" sign - hence the horizontal arrow as opposed to a slanted one.

As for Marlboro vs. Marlborough, the shorter spelling is still understood by drivers, and MassHighway was probably able to knock a foot or two off the panel width.  Not a big deal with only one sign, but when you consider the typical Massachusetts signing project has between 200 and 300 major guide signs alone, that difference can add up quickly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 05, 2013, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: getemngo on December 05, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
That is weird... the blackout goes from the south end of Exit 32 to just north of Exit 27. Usually if it hasn't been driven, it won't let you place the marker there at all. And all the southbound on-/off-ramps in that stretch have been driven and are fine. Technical difficulties?

Seems to go as far north as exit 40.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 05, 2013, 05:23:31 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F3ef25b53.jpg&hash=2f2f606503da6ee99d769c5555b6661d55ef0d0f)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2Fd282dc50.jpg&hash=dc27874febc549899326ae5f6a042c8f4c4cb12c)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 05, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
Best Goog censoring:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.751856,-92.3304&spn=0.007149,0.014173&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.751522,-92.330442&panoid=EJw5sv7O7imwVPd7zudcbQ&cbp=12,168.89,,2,2.07
Good god y'all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 05, 2013, 09:05:16 PM
^ The Aggression and Extreme Prejudice Towards Others, Possibly Involving a Cardinal Direction; I tells 'ya.

Or, Armstrong Flower Fields in Carlsbad, California (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=33.122133,-117.316067&spn=0.01125,0.01929&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.122128,-117.315928&panoid=neK1pvJqMMXBrRZA8F7YIA&cbp=12,271.22,,0,1.5). The only time I've seen artwork to complement a couple of BGSs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2FFuoho5AhCj0Zn54vtPCLth6JL5e6Que2IT6Dz00ICO_47i4OZ4taar-sgFloPyZyHdYzpE9pVkjCXe1l7iiXdM7MoEd0MY3MAoIlv7lCCR5hoiDTw0d9aHevKGUMX3f6dotG1-hOJoLZ3Mlljj4Sqev_F8PicRXNlQ2BIElwl1c0OaRkGKtINhcC9JaJvtsOliHp2jg54LG-Ew7RVRd8zKBcdTM2pjDvndvlAjaiKRLS1ZQFNUdBF0oRBlAfdfdhGy5SN3yTMtlUpUfu9hYWPQq1KS4xKAH1txXo3IS5NP91Vj0olHs2jbU647Cm3IGGHC7_09Y9E73Vp14vSkYyVUMiuAoIzxXwGjkNnrkvoX4Dd2KNSPJQ8XXCTZOK5ODk9bqoyKmfzS3mGLl-ovkBtvT-jME6C6K8QFIdXIkvgfpAKktH_8s0DKIekV_QbE_Iug9ZDfA6YLAYWBHIi6LI4Tl2LE7DWRxlQFAsSsUKa2p_y8Dg8eEaKfz-MPJs3CVHh8GWF9kiB59Cv0dnti3TTYMWpV6TclRW5H-kllknQ9SSz8etqqtLr54XkTg8cL9RXOOOApz2CmxqQiFklArTvHkgRbFWSDAJVtofjdlT_R8jMYc2DG3J3RfW%3Dw800-h533-no&hash=81a1773976f729a1ced60e15824c7531c72a233d)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Signal on December 05, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
My meager contribution... an odd ONE WAY and LTYOG combo sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2820%2F11198344835_478bd62c8d_z.jpg&hash=31d833f98e24aaefc3216f0447b54aa1a5f5e79f) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/)
8" 5-section Chapel Hill signal, 12"; DW-W Chapel Hill ped, Odd Combo Sign (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/) by Signals Unlimited (http://www.flickr.com/people/94611454@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on December 05, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 05, 2013, 05:23:31 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2Fd282dc50.jpg&hash=dc27874febc549899326ae5f6a042c8f4c4cb12c)
This sign is the 'Welcome to Nimbyia' sign!

Bunny ears (https://maps.google.com/?ll=52.331143,-1.736956&spn=0.031838,0.084543&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.331332,-1.75334&panoid=1xxxYfmojM9yshuaqJgKUg&cbp=12,263.81,,0,0.92) showing that you need to move left to turn right...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sabre-roads.org.uk%2Fwiki%2Fimages%2F8%2F8d%2FM42_Motorway_Splits%252C_Crazy_Road_Sign_-_%2522It_Could_Be_You%253F%2522_-_Geograph_-_1283020.jpg&hash=b1e83c920622a1db433013121b77ed3e900e8850)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 05, 2013, 11:07:26 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7150%2F6602560053_4c0e7a2b58_z_d.jpg&hash=ebdaf2b26b1b2b737dd44d8442391ef17ed15e90)
Ugly fonts in Oklahoma
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 06, 2013, 02:40:44 AM
looks like everyone gets the idea! keep em coming!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 06, 2013, 06:17:50 AM
Whoever put those football jersey type numbers on the US 64 sign must have been either an OU Sooners fan or an OSU Cowboys fan.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on December 06, 2013, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: english si on December 05, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Bunny ears (https://maps.google.com/?ll=52.331143,-1.736956&spn=0.031838,0.084543&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.331332,-1.75334&panoid=1xxxYfmojM9yshuaqJgKUg&cbp=12,263.81,,0,0.92) showing that you need to move left to turn right...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sabre-roads.org.uk%2Fwiki%2Fimages%2F8%2F8d%2FM42_Motorway_Splits%252C_Crazy_Road_Sign_-_%2522It_Could_Be_You%253F%2522_-_Geograph_-_1283020.jpg&hash=b1e83c920622a1db433013121b77ed3e900e8850)
So, basically, a British jughandle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 06, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
No, it's on a motorway. There's an overpass where they cross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Central Avenue on December 06, 2013, 11:09:25 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7369%2F8993727962_57db782802_c.jpg&hash=21d8d1d7626950c927ebdb20253361eda78517e5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: txstateends on December 06, 2013, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: getemngo on December 05, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 05, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 05, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.

At first I thought you meant the numbers "495" were censored somewhere, which the software sometimes does automatically, thinking it's a license plate.

That is weird... the blackout goes from the south end of Exit 32 to just north of Exit 27. Usually if it hasn't been driven, it won't let you place the marker there at all. And all the southbound on-/off-ramps in that stretch have been driven and are fine. Technical difficulties?

Maybe they should have gone to Walgreens to have their photos developed instead of CVS?? :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: txstateends on December 06, 2013, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 05, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
Best Goog censoring:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.751856,-92.3304&spn=0.007149,0.014173&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=34.751522,-92.330442&panoid=EJw5sv7O7imwVPd7zudcbQ&cbp=12,168.89,,2,2.07
Good god y'all.

That "sculpture" above it looks like something I'd do on paper if my pen was trying to run out of ink... :-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 06, 2013, 12:17:21 PM
Some kind of warning sign in "nowhere, Mississippi"
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2417%2F2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg&hash=489a82d2683f0f20daf5f1a993253c1c1104ccb7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Signal on December 06, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
Quote from: Central Avenue on December 06, 2013, 11:09:25 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7369%2F8993727962_57db782802_c.jpg&hash=21d8d1d7626950c927ebdb20253361eda78517e5)

That's awesome... where is it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on December 06, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: Central Avenue on December 06, 2013, 11:09:25 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7369%2F8993727962_57db782802_c.jpg&hash=21d8d1d7626950c927ebdb20253361eda78517e5)

We certainly could use something like that here in southeast Michigan.  It seems like they are slapping up sensor-activated traffic signals anyplace they want, and most of them do not work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on December 06, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 06, 2013, 11:06:07 AM
No, it's on a motorway. There's an overpass where they cross.
Yes and it appears on the sign as very thin gaps in the line.

It's a semi-directional T
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Central Avenue on December 07, 2013, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Signal on December 06, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
That's awesome... where is it?

Worthington, Ohio.

They have a couple variations around the city:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2880%2F8992542221_1bcd7eae76_c.jpg&hash=3db82a075964ac90684daaae900cb0aca10b95c9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 07, 2013, 09:00:47 AM
That would be VERY helpful on a bike.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 07, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: english si on December 05, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Bunny ears (https://maps.google.com/?ll=52.331143,-1.736956&spn=0.031838,0.084543&t=m&z=14&layer=c&cbll=52.331332,-1.75334&panoid=1xxxYfmojM9yshuaqJgKUg&cbp=12,263.81,,0,0.92) showing that you need to move left to turn right...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sabre-roads.org.uk%2Fwiki%2Fimages%2F8%2F8d%2FM42_Motorway_Splits%252C_Crazy_Road_Sign_-_%2522It_Could_Be_You%253F%2522_-_Geograph_-_1283020.jpg&hash=b1e83c920622a1db433013121b77ed3e900e8850)

I think it's amusing that the corner of the sign appears to be buried in the embankment...

Also, what's with the thick boxes?  Are those parts changeable or something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on December 07, 2013, 01:30:18 PM
Quote from: vtk on December 07, 2013, 01:21:22 PMAlso, what's with the thick boxes?  Are those parts changeable or something?
Yes, the M6 route can be either way around Birmingham - slightly shorter via the east and north sides but slightly quieter via the south and west sides. I believe the M42 West direction says '(M6 North)' though I've not seen it. I doubt it now changes, due to the M6 Toll and the attempt to get you to travel around Birmingham on that road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 07, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3407%2F3203182016_9c5844f698_z_d.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=1bfe45ed66aafa2ea359043e440918521e5b353a)
Anorexic 380 in Roswell, NM
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 07, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Looks like someone designed a decent 70 spec wide shield, then realized they didn't have a wide piece of sheet metal to put it on...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on December 08, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
Near Winchester, VA:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F131209C%2Fezimba12455842165800.jpg&hash=4a133256e1150679a1899d0f8e2b60f102af2b09)

Good: Cutout shields.
Bad: 81 is off-center (almost as if a state-named shield had the state name covered up), and the 'To' is missing.
Ugly: The insanely squished (and almost unreadable) directional banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3043%2F2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg&hash=56f29156e3801478cee79d986c1fbffb1de01b9b)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 08, 2013, 07:57:20 PM
Wah! Uber-shit-stain-ugly! I mean, if you thought the "US 200" sign at the Wye in Missoula was a pile of fail, heh! This tops the cake!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 08, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3043%2F2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg&hash=56f29156e3801478cee79d986c1fbffb1de01b9b)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

Ewwwwwwwwwwww. How exactly does this end up happening? I mean, don't you think whoever is putting the assembly up would look at it and go, "Wait a minute, something isn't right here..."?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: txstateends on December 09, 2013, 01:30:26 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3043%2F2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg&hash=56f29156e3801478cee79d986c1fbffb1de01b9b)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

While we're all running for our stomach meds, *please* say this is just short-sightedness on a local city's part, and not utter-mega-holy-crap-stupidity from a DOT (MO or KS).....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 09, 2013, 02:18:59 PM
I think Kansas City maintains US 56 in Missouri.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 09, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/Mn4sI

How the I-4 shield on the WB sign got to be 50% larger than the EB shield is a complete mystery, and so is the arrow on the EB sign that looks to be much smaller than the pullthrough arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 14, 2013, 02:58:14 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/TnKVV

It's fundamental!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on December 14, 2013, 07:36:08 PM
^^ Creeping sharia law?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 14, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
The only truly fundamental speed law is c.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on December 15, 2013, 11:55:01 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 09, 2013, 02:18:59 PM
I think Kansas City maintains US 56 in Missouri.
The U.S. 56 shields where it intersects (and ends at) U.S. 71 are normal, MoDOT issue. The ugly ones are all along the remainder of the route in KCMO, and I believe NE2 is correct that it's city signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 15, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
This is just plain ugly...

http://goo.gl/maps/qwM6B

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 19, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/q77/s720x720/1526524_564999760248146_330572673_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 19, 2013, 06:22:11 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 19, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States?
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/west_virginia064/i-064_wb_exit_121_06.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/maine050/i-095_sb_exit_103_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 19, 2013, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: vtk on December 07, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Looks like someone designed a decent 70 spec wide shield, then realized they didn't have a wide piece of sheet metal to put it on...

they did.  they just had it rotated 90 degrees.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 19, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 19, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))


any overhead gantries with "welcome to X road" in the US?  I seem to recall the PA turnpike had one many years ago.

it is a staple in Mexico.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/152911.jpg)

I thought I had a photo of one readily available that said "bienvenidos"* but this is the closest I've got offhand.  the ones I am thinking about are generally green; the Circuito Exterior Mexiquense seems to be an anomaly with red.

* or sometimes "welcome", in English.  the English ones are very popular in Baja California, hoping to attract US tourists.  I've heard the Yucatan area also has English ones, but cannot confirm.  metro Mexico City was all Spanish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on December 19, 2013, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on December 19, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 19, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))


any overhead gantries with "welcome to X road" in the US?  I seem to recall the PA turnpike had one many years ago.

it is a staple in Mexico.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/blog/photos/152911.jpg)

I thought I had a photo of one readily available that said "bienvenidos"* but this is the closest I've got offhand.  the ones I am thinking about are generally green; the Circuito Exterior Mexiquense seems to be an anomaly with red.

* or sometimes "welcome", in English.  the English ones are very popular in Baja California, hoping to attract US tourists.  I've heard the Yucatan area also has English ones, but cannot confirm.  metro Mexico City was all Spanish.

At one time wasn't there an overhead "Welcome to the Thomas E Dewey Thruway" overhead sign at Thruway mile 0? I don't remember if it's still there or not.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 19, 2013, 11:19:46 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 19, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Will I find a sign like this in the States? (EDIT: Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronrag/11047421175/))

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/q77/s720x720/1526524_564999760248146_330572673_n.jpg)

New Jersey does... kinda.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.buzznet.com%2Fassets%2Fusers15%2Fmissxdelirium%2Fdefault%2Fwelcome-new-jersey-turnpike-waaa--large-msg-117581713498.jpg&hash=74602117d2979fe488a9c10c78ce858a048567f4)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_4vUssCSEWQc%2FTLpPjGRaVII%2FAAAAAAAACyA%2FEPzmfVFzDcI%2Fs1600%2FIMG8862_1.jpg&hash=a8786d153584a3548ddd04655c3404c218f55407)

If you're wondering, a normal New Jersey welcome sign (not on the GSP / NJTP) looks like this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fontheculture.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2Fusa-welcome-signs-new-jersey_zps1cb2a6cf.jpg&hash=a833fd178c008db30e37db7c198cdc8217a443e5)

I know both the Turnpike and the Parkway have 'Thanks for driving <toll road here> ' signs still standing at certain exits on those roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 19, 2013, 11:43:19 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2009_Milford_PA_Day_3%2FImages%2F160.jpg&hash=744374ce43890b15553cfe882a467c53e8f33a79)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 20, 2013, 10:57:44 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 19, 2013, 06:22:11 PM
....

(https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/maine050/i-095_sb_exit_103_02.jpg)

That sign makes it look like E-ZPass is a corporate sponsor: "Welcome to the E-ZPass Maine Turnpike." You know, sort of like college bowl games: the "Discover Orange Bowl" or the "Rose Bowl Game Presented by VIZIO."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 20, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
Until about a year after the MassDOT "merger" in 2009, the "Welcome to Massachusetts" sign on I-90 east in West Stockbridge included a MassPike shield, the legend "Massachusetts Turnpike Authority" and the names and titles of the then Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and Turnpike Chairman.

The "Turnpike Authority" legend and names on the sign was mostly blued out for some time.  Within the past year or so, the original sign has since been replaced with a MassDOT current standard Welcome sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 20, 2013, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on December 19, 2013, 08:46:29 PM
At one time wasn't there an overhead "Welcome to the Thomas E Dewey Thruway" overhead sign at Thruway mile 0? I don't remember if it's still there or not.
http://goo.gl/maps/24sEG

Also of note: those clearview county signs the Thruway installed are now in street view.  And the "Thruway Speed Limit 55" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 21, 2013, 12:37:20 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 20, 2013, 08:46:08 PM
Also of note: those clearview county signs the Thruway installed are now in street view.

I truly hope you are not referring to the county pentagon shields being in Clearview - because if so I might gouge my eyes out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 21, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 21, 2013, 12:37:20 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 20, 2013, 08:46:08 PM
Also of note: those clearview county signs the Thruway installed are now in street view.

I truly hope you are not referring to the county pentagon shields being in Clearview - because if so I might gouge my eyes out.
No, these things: http://goo.gl/maps/D0qQs (Westchester) http://goo.gl/maps/D8zwl (Bronx); the only county pentagon I know of on the Thruway is at exit 38 for old NY 57.

Also: another overhead welcome sign: http://goo.gl/maps/uopa7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 21, 2013, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 21, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
No, these things: http://goo.gl/maps/D0qQs (Westchester) http://goo.gl/maps/D8zwl (Bronx); the only county pentagon I know of on the Thruway is at exit 38 for old NY 57.

Oh, well those are fine since they use mixed case Clearview legend on a positive contrast background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 21, 2013, 11:42:21 AM
Not an overhead, but...

ISTHA posts welcome and thank you signage.  Here's an older one from the former south end of I-355:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2Fi355southend.jpg&hash=00fc86ba587d8c0e5f18a0fb7d672760ea7555d9) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/i355southend.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 21, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2888%2F11471507384_c2a2a5326f_b.jpg&hash=cae33ec75328470ba316ee94c9bb27bd0435ba75)

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 21, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 21, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

I might see another speed limit circle past the exit, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on December 21, 2013, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 21, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 21, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

I might see another speed limit circle past the exit, but I'm not sure.

Actually, I think that's a "no passing".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 21, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 21, 2013, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 21, 2013, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 21, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
40 is awfully slow for an expressway, don't you think?

Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

I might see another speed limit circle past the exit, but I'm not sure.

Actually, I think that's a "no passing".

It looks to me like there may be another speed limit sign beyond the "no passing" (or at least no something) up on top of that rise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 21, 2013, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 21, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
Does anyone know the Vienna way of signing ramp speed?

There really is none.  The UK has a version signed as:

Max
Speed
40

The US and Canada use a similar sign, black on yellow.

Germany uses a white on blue sign.

And Mexico uses the red circle in a white square with the speed in the middle and the word "SALIDA" above or below it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 26, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
The Chicago area has a special number for reporting accidents and traffic problems.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3706_zpsc138b183.jpg&hash=ffe00d1bf840a7d19eea4a06ee77d064dd87cd24) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3706_zpsc138b183.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 26, 2013, 06:48:29 PM
"Car phone" isn't a phrase you see much these days...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on December 26, 2013, 10:28:42 PM
Hello, *999? I'm reporting a road on the road. What's that? Oh, then; I'd like to report a bad case of line spacing on a big blue sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 26, 2013, 11:17:49 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on December 26, 2013, 10:28:42 PM
Hello, *999? I'm reporting a road on the road. What's that? Oh, then; I'd like to report a bad case of line spacing on a big blue sign.

I'd like to report the use of Clearview in all caps on a blue service sign...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on December 27, 2013, 10:52:04 AM
Beware of another Veterans Memorial Bridge:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXqAbMhQ.jpg&hash=06ea0454a0033b8b77db1a424dfd1f4ad9c175b5)

(AZ-CA state line; Street View image)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 27, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
A sign I've seen from time-to-time in Illinois, but not anywhere much else (Archer Av, Justice, IL):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg&hash=fd1f136d7a188dc6d9ffc115ad6c78ec3ce4aabf) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg.html)

Sometimes a dash is used between "water" and "ice".

And this one is just interesting (Cortland, IL):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg&hash=d60076d46f729ba7631a48bf2dc14df533ee22b0) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg.html)

A bit wordy for a diamond sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 27, 2013, 02:21:49 PM
I think custom warning signs are some of my favorite signs  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alps on December 27, 2013, 07:13:52 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 27, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
A sign I've seen from time-to-time in Illinois, but not anywhere much else (Archer Av, Justice, IL):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg&hash=fd1f136d7a188dc6d9ffc115ad6c78ec3ce4aabf) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3694_zps0a1fbe4b.jpg.html)

Sometimes a dash is used between "water" and "ice".

And this one is just interesting (Cortland, IL):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg&hash=d60076d46f729ba7631a48bf2dc14df533ee22b0) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3242_zps9370ab6a.jpg.html)

A bit wordy for a diamond sign.
1: "WATER / ICE ON ROAD"
2: "MAXIMUM 11' WIDTH AHEAD"

Bam.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on December 28, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
This sort of counts, I think. There's a bunch of random arrow signs posted around the Byrd Park area of Richmond, Virginia. They're not goofs since there's no context, and there's no evidence anything else was posted along with the arrows.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8376%2F8585162490_0c384cc2a3_c.jpg&hash=5d7cb5e89827e709d9bcb0c58c12fdb104517ea2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/8585162490/)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8101%2F8584063991_012007900b_c.jpg&hash=120c90077de51f4b216e068ccd92f51a0909157b) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/coredesatchikai/8584063991/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 28, 2013, 10:51:53 PM
Finderne Ave, Bridgewater / Manville, New Jersey, I present the 'ENTRANCE' variant of the 'ONE WAY' sign:

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.576564!3d40.568042!2m2!1f102.26!2f86.69!4f75!2m9!1e1!2m4!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0!9m1!6sFinderne+Avenue!5m2!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0&fid=5

Since the picture quality is so shitty, I made a mockup of what the sign says:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSigns%2FOW-ent_zps7826da94.png&hash=0f6c210543d96a91bba37a548d3653e598cc9807)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 28, 2013, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on December 28, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
This sort of counts, I think. There's a bunch of random arrow signs posted around the Byrd Park area of Richmond, Virginia. They're not goofs since there's no context, and there's no evidence anything else was posted along with the arrows.

Hmmm, too new for the Goog. Maybe they're planning on installing shields at a later date. Perhaps USBR 1 is getting realigned to follow R3 across the Boulevard Bridge (but it's dumb to not put the USBR 1 and R3 shields together)? Maps of current alignments here: http://www.richmond.com/recreation/article_bf1d480d-7b17-5651-8c6f-9a5a33aad617.html?mode=image&photo= Are the other arrows also along R3?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 29, 2013, 05:39:58 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 28, 2013, 10:51:53 PM
Finderne Ave, Bridgewater / Manville, New Jersey, I present the 'ENTRANCE' variant of the 'ONE WAY' sign:

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.576564!3d40.568042!2m2!1f102.26!2f86.69!4f75!2m9!1e1!2m4!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0!9m1!6sFinderne+Avenue!5m2!1smrs8x-kH7rWlWMBcwnKxfw!2e0&fid=5

Since the picture quality is so shitty, I made a mockup of what the sign says:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSigns%2FOW-ent_zps7826da94.png&hash=0f6c210543d96a91bba37a548d3653e598cc9807)

Reminds me of a couple similar signs that were located in Verdi, NV, which said "FREEWAY" instead. These were on the two-way I-80 frontage road that ends in an off ramp, so one should only travel one direction to get back to the Interstate.

Google Street View (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Verdi,+Verdi-Mogul,+NV&hl=en&ll=39.502004,-119.998523&spn=0.006499,0.013078&sll=36.125,-115.175&sspn=0.870758,1.674042&oq=verdi&hnear=Verdi-Mogul,+Washoe+County,+Nevada&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.501947,-119.998512&panoid=EWS_WNFKicN0WksfYHNZNQ&cbp=12,197.1,,0,9.16) of location, which now shows the old signs removed in favor of proper trailblazers back to I-80.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on December 29, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 28, 2013, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on December 28, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
This sort of counts, I think. There's a bunch of random arrow signs posted around the Byrd Park area of Richmond, Virginia. They're not goofs since there's no context, and there's no evidence anything else was posted along with the arrows.

Hmmm, too new for the Goog. Maybe they're planning on installing shields at a later date. Perhaps USBR 1 is getting realigned to follow R3 across the Boulevard Bridge (but it's dumb to not put the USBR 1 and R3 shields together)? Maps of current alignments here: http://www.richmond.com/recreation/article_bf1d480d-7b17-5651-8c6f-9a5a33aad617.html?mode=image&photo= Are the other arrows also along R3?

I think they are. I'll have to go back and check, though. (USBR 1 is actually the reason there isn't a R1, too.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 29, 2013, 03:40:31 PM
Saw this on Friday outside the Wharf seafood restaurant in Alexandria, Virginia, where I was having lunch. I just found the sign interesting and kind of amusing. If there were flooding as far up as this sign I think I'd have retrieved my car and gotten out of there well before the water ever got that far!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F6e544164471de1466eee9804cf85641b_zps302aceb1.jpg&hash=7148f34c0d31063d9c230b60f452a81ded7c712c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 29, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
lol. what a hack border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 30, 2013, 12:06:22 AM
Found this (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Shoppes+Boulevard%2C+North+Brunswick%2C+NJ&data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.456382!3d40.459878!2m2!1f117.94!2f98.6!4f19.22!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sPg-9DCOYMYSDuRqaSXH9nA!2e0!9m1!6sShoppes+Boulevard!5m2!1sPg-9DCOYMYSDuRqaSXH9nA!2e0!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x89c3c42be8df62bd%3A0xe2442f186db89d4a!3m8!1m3!1d9960!2d-74.4523058!3d40.4643319!3m2!1i1301!2i630!4f13.1!4m2!3d40.4605466!4d-74.4575162&fid=5) while in North Brunswick today... not much to be said except that at least it was in a green background to signify it was guiding you... kinda...

Then in that same complex, this (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=Shoppes+Boulevard%2C+North+Brunswick%2C+NJ&data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.458721!3d40.46128!2m2!1f334.28!2f83.32!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1scPeN2cjCjIkAfLvP91CAXQ!2e0!9m1!6sShoppes+Boulevard!5m2!1scPeN2cjCjIkAfLvP91CAXQ!2e0!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x89c3c42be8df62bd%3A0xe2442f186db89d4a!3m8!1m3!1d9960!2d-74.4523058!3d40.4643319!3m2!1i1301!2i630!4f13.1!4m2!3d40.4605466!4d-74.4575162&fid=5) sign looks to be a guide sign, yet is posted with regulatory sign colors. And wouldn't a US 1 shield have sufficed here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on December 30, 2013, 03:45:43 PM
I've noticed that shopping malls love creating their own sign standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 30, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
I was downloading videos from my dashcam and culling through them and I found I finally got a decent picture of the funky turn arrows at this intersection in Alexandria. I've passed them hundreds of times but never got a good picture until this one.

Location is just outside the Holiday Inn shown on this map: http://goo.gl/maps/JFTPj  The arrows reflect the hotel's driveway adding an extra access point to and from this intersection.

I just find the arrows unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FFunkyarrowsEisenhower_zps8cfca8a9.png&hash=08b7e748ffd00bd8017ac5e2236b62f2b0ee8948)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 31, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Interesting VMS in Newark, New Jersey...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgick.nj.com%2Fhome%2Fnjo-media%2Fpgmain%2Fimg%2Fstar-ledger%2Fphoto%2F2013%2F12%2F-4613d20e01b38583.jpg&hash=8c3ae94a277ef36d8d738322275a4e66c7ecad56)

To quote from the article in which I found it,
QuoteEssex County Prosecutors office display signs asking for information on the homicides of Zainee Hailey, 13, and Kasson Mormon, 15, who were shot and killed on Christmas night at 102 Schley Street in Newark. The scene on Friday, December, 27, 2013. Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on December 31, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
crap, I totally forgot to commit a homicide that day.  maybe it's good for 2113?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on December 31, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
DelDOT puts those signs up here and there to say a lane or a ramp will be closed in the near future.  What bugs me is that they don't give the day of the week.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ARMOURERERIC on December 31, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 31, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Interesting VMS in Newark, New Jersey...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgick.nj.com%2Fhome%2Fnjo-media%2Fpgmain%2Fimg%2Fstar-ledger%2Fphoto%2F2013%2F12%2F-4613d20e01b38583.jpg&hash=8c3ae94a277ef36d8d738322275a4e66c7ecad56)

To quote from the article in which I found it,
QuoteEssex County Prosecutors office display signs asking for information on the homicides of Zainee Hailey, 13, and Kasson Mormon, 15, who were shot and killed on Christmas night at 102 Schley Street in Newark. The scene on Friday, December, 27, 2013. Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger

Would make me want to get a big plush Santa and place it face down at the base of the VMS with a toy knife in it;s back just to traumatize some kids.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 03, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
We need one of those lonely arrows signs to go with this.

http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ (http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ)

The library is actually half a mile straight ahead, but no one would ever know it from this sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 03, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

Errrr, okay, I guess there's not a ramp right there, but there is one just around the curve there....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 03, 2014, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 03, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

Errrr, okay, I guess there's not a ramp right there, but there is one just around the curve there....
While redundant with respect to the overhead BGS in the background; that trailblazer shield assembly can come in handy for one that's following a tall truck (which would block the BGS' from the lower vehicle's view).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 03, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

Could that be on the border entering Trenton? Maybe they're being discreet about it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 03, 2014, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 03, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
Uhhhh.... (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.841809!3d40.252906!2m2!1f296.92!2f84.04!4f19.92!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0!9m1!6sRiver+Road!5m2!1sbbSjLpAYA5Wv6YbtLOYL2g!2e0&fid=5)

I don't have the faintest clue in why there is an I-95 shield with an arrow pointing... to the opposite side of the road. There's not even a ramp there!

And then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

Could that be on the border entering Trenton? Maybe they're being discreet about it!

It is exactly at the border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 03, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
Could that be on the border entering Trenton? Maybe they're being discreet about it!

So that's a sign saying you entered Trenton's city limits? Because there is a 'WELCOME TO TRENTON' sign not too far up this road.

As for the I-95 shield, I understand the ramp is not too far from the sign, but it would make a lot more sense to place it when NJ 29 splits from the I-95 ramps.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 04, 2014, 02:56:30 AM
So it should be an M5-2 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2d_05_longdesc.htm) rather than an M6-2. Woo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SSOWorld on January 04, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7425%2F10770185674_8f4c059d4f.jpg&hash=bad0b2ae324af99e85fed4740c297993cb3d4c52) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ssoworld/10770185674/)
US-101 NB (Mission St) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ssoworld/10770185674/) by ssoworld (http://www.flickr.com/people/ssoworld/), on Flickr
Note the number of left turn options...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on January 04, 2014, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: mhh on January 03, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
We need one of those lonely arrows signs to go with this.

http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ (http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ)

The library is actually half a mile straight ahead, but no one would ever know it from this sign.

love library signs.


whats with this LGS/street sign further up at the intersection? it looks like a list of street names but doenst give any directional information.

http://goo.gl/maps/UaWsH
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 04, 2014, 03:55:46 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on January 04, 2014, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: mhh on January 03, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
We need one of those lonely arrows signs to go with this.

http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ (http://goo.gl/maps/468YJ)

The library is actually half a mile straight ahead, but no one would ever know it from this sign.

love library signs.


whats with this LGS/street sign further up at the intersection? it looks like a list of street names but doenst give any directional information.

http://goo.gl/maps/UaWsH

It's a list of all of the streets in the no-outlet subdivision. All but Schmid Dr. should properly have arrows next to the street names: http://goo.gl/maps/TTFzE (http://goo.gl/maps/TTFzE)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 04, 2014, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PMAnd then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

It is somewhat analogous to how the Topeka city limits (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Topeka,+KS&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Topeka,+Shawnee,+Kansas&ll=39.053351,-95.785568&spn=0.001135,0.002411&t=m&z=19&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.053355,-95.785353&panoid=SHDP7FUk6dgVceL9PChfgQ&cbp=12,82.29,,0,0) are treated on I-70 eastbound ("CAPITAL CITY" replaces the usual "CITY LIMIT").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 06, 2014, 01:17:06 PM
Here's another one:

http://goo.gl/maps/rGx5A (http://goo.gl/maps/rGx5A)

It's a white rectangular regulatory sign, so does it mean that the presence of a blind person in the area is mandatory?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 06, 2014, 01:25:37 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 04, 2014, 02:56:30 AM
So it should be an M5-2 (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2d_05_longdesc.htm) rather than an M6-2. Woo.
Actually, M5-4 would be more appropriate; especially further down NJ 29 makes more of a sharp right whereas the ramp to I-95 stays more straight.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on January 07, 2014, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 31, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
Interesting VMS in Newark, New Jersey...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgick.nj.com%2Fhome%2Fnjo-media%2Fpgmain%2Fimg%2Fstar-ledger%2Fphoto%2F2013%2F12%2F-4613d20e01b38583.jpg&hash=8c3ae94a277ef36d8d738322275a4e66c7ecad56)

To quote from the article in which I found it,
QuoteEssex County Prosecutors office display signs asking for information on the homicides of Zainee Hailey, 13, and Kasson Mormon, 15, who were shot and killed on Christmas night at 102 Schley Street in Newark. The scene on Friday, December, 27, 2013. Ed Murray/The Star-Ledger

I don't remember the intersection, but I remember seeing one in Winston-Salem asking for information about a hit-and-run that happened.

Here's a sign I've never seen anywhere else - http://goo.gl/maps/3I6XD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 07, 2014, 10:37:21 AM
^^ Cobb Co GA goes bezerk with those (5 flashers in one spot): http://goo.gl/maps/obMiD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 07, 2014, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: Big John on January 07, 2014, 10:37:21 AM
^^ Cobb Co GA goes bezerk with those (5 flashers in one spot): http://goo.gl/maps/obMiD

That's overkill. 2 flashers would've sufficed, if not one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 25, 2014, 04:27:06 PM
Keep this thread going! MA 62, going west, just west of MA 28

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmaps.googleapis.com%2Fmaps%2Fapi%2Fstreetview%3Fsize%3D200x200%26amp%3Blocation%3D42.583704%2C-71.11553%26amp%3Bheading%3D348.01%26amp%3Bfov%3D60%26amp%3Bsensor%3Dfalse%26amp%3Bpitch%3D-9&hash=afba5c8a644c6a4792bc85d6243f0ca8476ddbce)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmaps.googleapis.com%2Fmaps%2Fapi%2Fstreetview%3Fsize%3D200x200%26amp%3Blocation%3D42.583704%2C-71.11553%26amp%3Bheading%3D348.01%26amp%3Bfov%3D10%26amp%3Bsensor%3Dfalse%26amp%3Bpitch%3D-9&hash=0d50051406bf6a8f333bb69bf12f7b8a77ed21d4)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 26, 2014, 02:35:48 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 04, 2014, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2014, 12:39:36 PMAnd then there's this sign, (https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d-74.817065!3d40.24086!2m2!1f144.11!2f82.62!4f15!2m9!1e1!2m4!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0!9m1!6sNew+Jersey+29!5m2!1slGDWtMHI74TdQVxRWYExxw!2e0&fid=5) and out of the states I've visited, New Jersey's the only one who posts a sign like this.

It is somewhat analogous to how the Topeka city limits (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Topeka,+KS&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Topeka,+Shawnee,+Kansas&ll=39.053351,-95.785568&spn=0.001135,0.002411&t=m&z=19&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=39.053355,-95.785353&panoid=SHDP7FUk6dgVceL9PChfgQ&cbp=12,82.29,,0,0) are treated on I-70 eastbound ("CAPITAL CITY" replaces the usual "CITY LIMIT").

Is that actually the city limit, though? If you continue east on I-70, there's a typical "Topeka / CITY LIMIT" sign near the bridge upstream of the I-470 ramp diverge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 26, 2014, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2014, 02:35:48 AMIs that actually the city limit, though? If you continue east on I-70, there's a typical "Topeka / CITY LIMIT" sign near the bridge upstream of the I-470 ramp diverge.

This is not an easy question to answer.  Using Google Maps' shading distinction between incorporated and unincorporated land, the first sign (which references Topeka as "CAPITAL CITY") is located at the point where the Topeka municipal boundary first touches I-70.  (It does not appear to cross the I-70 right-of-way line, but I don't consider Google Maps reliable for such a determination.)  The boundary runs parallel to I-70 for several hundred feet before it jogs first south and then north, crossing I-70 just downstream of the Urish Road bridge.  The "CITY LIMIT" sign is in fact located just upstream of the crossing point, a siting which is probably necessitated by the bridge.

If memory serves, KDOT considers an official city limit sign to be properly located at the point where the city limit actually crosses the highway, even if the limit line has been parallel to and adjacent to the highway for a considerable distance to that point.  The "CITY LIMIT" sign in this case appears to meet this criterion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 26, 2014, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 26, 2014, 10:13:36 AM
This is not an easy question to answer.  Using Google Maps' shading distinction between incorporated and unincorporated land, the first sign (which references Topeka as "CAPITAL CITY") is located at the point where the Topeka municipal boundary first touches I-70.
No need to use the Goog. http://maps.topeka.org/website/NewZoning/viewer.htm (the Goog is essentially correct; the city limits are the south ROW of I-70 and the east ROW of Urish)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 27, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
I found this just off of US 165 in Monroe, LA near the ULM campus. However, it belonged to a tree cutting company by the same name repairing tornado damage at a nearby house. I thought LA DOTD had a sense of humor.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7385%2F12178840513_afb1929c83.jpg&hash=b55382aa8fc102e4c7db8228f01c2acce7feaee3) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 27, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on January 27, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
I found this just off of US 165 in Monroe, LA near the ULM campus. However, it belonged to a tree cutting company by the same name repairing tornado damage at a nearby house. I thought LA DOTD had a sense of humor.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7385%2F12178840513_afb1929c83.jpg&hash=b55382aa8fc102e4c7db8228f01c2acce7feaee3) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

Most people would think it was a typo for "caution".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 27, 2014, 06:56:40 PM
Went down to Dallas last Tuesday for work (just for the day), and found this near my site:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3745_zps5b3d55f8.jpg&hash=463438c584d9a17486694dec4a4f077de2d08e0e) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3745_zps5b3d55f8.jpg.html)

Thought it was interesting due to the use of "IH" instead of "I-" or "Interstate" (yes, I know it's Texas-standard).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 27, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
I assume the 'I H' stands for 'Interstate Highway', correct?

Also, I get a strange feeling that 'Avenue H' should be 'H Avenue', but then again, I don't know Dallas (or Texas for that matter) that well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on January 27, 2014, 07:41:24 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 27, 2014, 07:37:37 PM
I assume the 'I H' stands for 'Interstate Highway', correct?

Also, I get a strange feeling that 'Avenue H' should be 'H Avenue', but then again, I don't know Dallas (or Texas for that matter) that well.

Interstates are IH- in Texas.

And I think Avenue H is also called Avenue H in New York.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 28, 2014, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 27, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on January 27, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
I found this just off of US 165 in Monroe, LA near the ULM campus. However, it belonged to a tree cutting company by the same name repairing tornado damage at a nearby house. I thought LA DOTD had a sense of humor.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7385%2F12178840513_afb1929c83.jpg&hash=b55382aa8fc102e4c7db8228f01c2acce7feaee3) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/12178840513/)

Most people would think it was a typo for "caution".

No one in Louisiana would think Cajun was a typo for caution.   ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on January 28, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
I think it's in poor taste to advertise one's business name on a sign that's supposed to warn motorists of a hazard on the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 28, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: vtk on January 28, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
I think it's in poor taste to advertise one's business name on a sign that's supposed to warn motorists of a hazard on the road.

Could be ethnic, as in they are tree cutters who are Cajuns.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 29, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 28, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: vtk on January 28, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
I think it's in poor taste to advertise one's business name on a sign that's supposed to warn motorists of a hazard on the road.

Could be ethnic, as in they are tree cutters who are Cajuns.

I'm pretty sure it was both. The truck in the yard had the same name as the sign. Didn't catch a glance of the people working, but there's a good chance they were part Cajun.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on February 10, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
this confusing as well as ugly specific service sign is courtesy of MassDOT.

http://goo.gl/maps/WE6AO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 10, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: mass_citizen on February 10, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
this confusing as well as ugly specific service sign is courtesy of MassDOT.

http://goo.gl/maps/WE6AO

Note not only the white arrow next to Dunkin Donuts, but the very long black arrow that you can barely tell is an arrow on the actual DD plate as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on February 10, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 10, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: mass_citizen on February 10, 2014, 02:45:01 AM
this confusing as well as ugly specific service sign is courtesy of MassDOT.

http://goo.gl/maps/WE6AO

Note not only the white arrow next to Dunkin Donuts, but the very long black arrow that you can barely tell is an arrow on the actual DD plate as well.

wow. just noticed that. this just got even uglier.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on February 10, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
At the end of the entry road to the Ohio Reformatory for Women,

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F02%2F11%2Fyzu8ypa7.jpg&hash=bf01e51754cf3299c8e60894776fa4367a79b4e0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 10, 2014, 08:45:13 PM
Speeding ticket menu on Martin County Road 714 in Florida:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc8.staticflickr.com%2F1%2F657%2F21594303455_1cea3b1484_c.jpg&hash=528e7c444d618306e50c2ea1a91b872214314365) (http://flic.kr/p/yUds5P)

It's about the only time I've seen a permanent sign for this kind of thing; probably not helped by getting a spot on Car & Driver's "Ten Best Places to Speed" back in the 1990s. On the contrary, I like to slow down on this section...50 mph is the posted limit, by the way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 10, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
^^ I have seen such signs in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on February 10, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
that's not all that unreasonable.  here in California, we've got $860 for a right turn on red camera.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on February 10, 2014, 09:47:01 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 10, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
^^ I have seen such signs in Pennsylvania.

Such as this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9533.msg272661#msg272661)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on February 10, 2014, 10:47:33 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 10, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
Note not only the white arrow next to Dunkin Donuts, but the very long black arrow that you can barely tell is an arrow on the actual DD plate as well.

When that sign was first put up, the DD was to the right.  The whole thing should be done over.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 11, 2014, 04:51:13 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 10, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
that's not all that unreasonable.  here in California, we've got $860 for a right turn on red camera.

I'm not always the biggest champion of uniformity, but the haphazard fine  choices - HOV, Red Light, et al - from varying jurisdictions in California seems a bit clumsy. The numbers just seem to be randomly pulled from a hat.

The example I've posted seems to display that they'll err by 5 mph, interestingly. Under normal conditions (not a school or work zone), there's no fine range for 1-5 over the posted limit in Florida.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hubcity on February 11, 2014, 07:56:45 AM
...and the faster you go, the more you save!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: OracleUsr on February 11, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: hubcity on February 11, 2014, 07:56:45 AM
...and the faster you go, the more you save!

Yeah, everybody knows that.

But did you know that the Devil actually invented Clearview, and that's why North Dakota, home of Devil's Lake, uses it?

Sorry, I hate Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PColumbus73 on February 11, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arcata+ca&ll=40.875162,-124.083294&spn=0.00066,0.001206&hnear=Arcata,+Humboldt+County,+California&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.875165,-124.083358&panoid=jrZo2xzwkVYO-8ngELuf-Q&cbp=12,9.5,,3,-11.98

The opposite corner arrows anyone?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 12, 2014, 07:32:24 AM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on February 11, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=arcata+ca&ll=40.875162,-124.083294&spn=0.00066,0.001206&hnear=Arcata,+Humboldt+County,+California&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.875165,-124.083358&panoid=jrZo2xzwkVYO-8ngELuf-Q&cbp=12,9.5,,3,-11.98

The opposite corner arrows anyone?

:banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Katavia on February 13, 2014, 01:02:53 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 07, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3407%2F3203182016_9c5844f698_z_d.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=1bfe45ed66aafa2ea359043e440918521e5b353a)
Anorexic 380 in Roswell, NM
Lol. Eastconomy Motors. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on February 17, 2014, 12:04:56 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.dot.state.fl.us%2Fvideologsource1%2F12238003%2FA38070000S%2FI_02344.jpg&hash=c5e086c2dc734987ad317472cc7697d2ac7358c4)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 17, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Hmm, that's funny, I don't see any water for a boat to be crossing the road...  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 17, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 17, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Hmm, that's funny, I don't see any water for a boat to be crossing the road...  :bigass:

Maybe it's for times like these:

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 17, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
That sign... No words to describe it...
:-o
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on February 23, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
Interprinceton 6k:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3ge9Alh.jpg&hash=30eaf6e853db9bec87acad067a199309a43d43ea)
Please note, per forum policy: Image height is restricted to 600px. ~S
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 23, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on February 23, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
Interprinceton 6k:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3ge9Alh.jpg&hash=30eaf6e853db9bec87acad067a199309a43d43ea)

Where is this? In another country?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on February 23, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 23, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on February 23, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
Interprinceton 6k:

Where is this? In another country?

UCLA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 28, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
A double roundabout diagram. Never seen one before.

BC Highway 97 at Campbell Road (http://goo.gl/JRKExq)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fuxqo2TK.png&hash=9986f5c4761c0f0433e9ae176798af3a90dcf441)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 07, 2014, 09:07:28 PM
South of Rock Falls, IL:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3781_zps62aa4ea0.jpg&hash=7faaa50b2bebc51a3945471d338a2c98f3dd8227) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3781_zps62aa4ea0.jpg.html)

I-88 eastbound, Rock Falls, IL:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3784_zpsff153ce2.jpg&hash=758bb8deeb3d0fc9c650ec6cf5b519854099148a) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3784_zpsff153ce2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on March 08, 2014, 03:13:09 PM
what if your truck is 10ft 1in?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DaBigE on March 08, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
Quote from: jake on February 28, 2014, 06:08:00 PM
A double roundabout diagram. Never seen one before.

BC Highway 97 at Campbell Road (http://goo.gl/JRKExq)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fuxqo2TK.png&hash=9986f5c4761c0f0433e9ae176798af3a90dcf441)

These are quite common in Europe. The UK sign design manual has a section devoted to the design of this type of sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PenguinXL2 on March 18, 2014, 07:55:18 PM
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 18, 2014, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: PenguinXL2 on March 18, 2014, 07:55:18 PM
W[img][/]

what
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 18, 2014, 08:08:56 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 18, 2014, 07:55:40 PM
Quote from: PenguinXL2 on March 18, 2014, 07:55:18 PM
W(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficons.iconarchive.com%2Ficons%2Frob-sanders%2Fhat%2F256%2FHat-fez-icon.png&hash=0f1119bc9bc0b5e77dd1415b528da4546338d754)

what
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 18, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
Fezzes are cool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 19, 2014, 05:22:23 AM
and FUNNY!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 19, 2014, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 18, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
Fezzes are cool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWYw0CnuSI)

As were bow ties.  Alas, like tennis shoes with a suit, they pass on.  Now we have a long coat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on March 24, 2014, 08:20:28 PM
Any time I see a pictorial Yield Ahead sign where the yield symbol is really huge, I think of the early-episodes of Family Guy where the character's mouths really show their teeth:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjzM7lNT.jpg&hash=8ef2be234c0f473fe7b5ed7c1f5da7928d2a3193) (https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.301982,-74.768486&spn=0.028147,0.055747&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=40.301897,-74.768578&panoid=MJjWeANQxI9WDZy1FMSU5Q&cbp=12,247,,2,4.92)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20090722171326%2Ffamilyguy%2Fimages%2Fe%2Fe4%2FJennifer.jpg&hash=e2133f8c05df93b6467be6b25d6bcb8b9619d261)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 24, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on March 24, 2014, 08:20:28 PM
Any time I see a pictorial Yield Ahead sign where the yield symbol is really huge, I think of the early-episodes of Family Guy where the character's mouths really show their teeth:
Once it's seen, it cannot be unseen!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 31, 2014, 02:34:43 PM
This seems like the right thread for this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsCAt7SB.jpg%3F1&hash=afffa5987a4977179eea7c50ac5935cf32729976)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 31, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 31, 2014, 10:46:23 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 31, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

I know it's not Illinois.  No route 27 of any type, state, US, or Interstate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on March 31, 2014, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 31, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

Given what looks like a paddle sign across the road, I'd say you're right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on April 01, 2014, 07:16:21 AM
Yes, these type of signs are mounted both approaching and departing the intersection of Routes 27 and 109 in Medfield, MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 01, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on March 31, 2014, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 31, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

Given what looks like a paddle sign across the road, I'd say you're right.

I always thought the paddle signs were duplicated on both sides? (Then again, I haven't spent any serious time in MA since 1991.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on April 01, 2014, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 01, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
I always thought the paddle signs were duplicated on both sides? (Then again, I haven't spent any serious time in MA since 1991.)

They can be, but usually aren't.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 06, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
New signs outside Nationals Park on Friday. Never seen either before anywhere else. The second one strikes me as really odd. If the taxi driver stops to pick up someone hailing him, how exactly do they plan to tow his cab? A ticket, sure, but do they really intend to remove the cabbie from his vehicle (by force if needed) so as to tow the cab?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FBDE6DC81-8DE9-497F-B362-1164522F6FFE_zpslvjuwcyi.jpg&hash=dffa76f9906e138f3457da5fff7444ad3ab89829)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F2D052CCE-4AEB-4885-8F6D-C6BBB384E359_zps8cuz1qak.jpg&hash=f07cde647cb3910ba0a42a711822a9e9e4d5cc09)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 14, 2014, 12:53:54 AM
X Post from the fonts forum.

:banghead: What in the world is this? (Forgive me for being a bit of a font n00b, but this is something I have never seen)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/13836866795_c4a4c552d3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT)
Shields at Grovenor Metro Station Exit (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/13837244474_8fe2ff8dc2_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5KuGA)
Odd Shields (https://flic.kr/p/n5KuGA) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 14, 2014, 12:57:18 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 06, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
New signs outside Nationals Park on Friday. Never seen either before anywhere else. The second one strikes me as really odd. If the taxi driver stops to pick up someone hailing him, how exactly do they plan to tow his cab? A ticket, sure, but do they really intend to remove the cabbie from his vehicle (by force if needed) so as to tow the cab?

Ugh, taxis... Taxi's interpret NO STOPPING as TAXI STAND. I prefer the second one though and the first is too wordy. A cabbie pictogram would be nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 14, 2014, 01:55:44 AM
Great sign near Puyallup, Washington. The font haters will like this because it uses the loved-by-all Comic Sans and of course, to top everything off, Clearview on brown. Really lovely isn't it?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuNcBCAj.jpg&hash=f1c58fcd6b9adcfb77a8a7832ee1e6ec72a6b3d2) (http://imgur.com/uNcBCAj)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 14, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
You know, I understand sign designing companies will allow custom signs, and I'm all for that, but can they start to reduce the number of custom fonts? This is just ugly.

As for the Clearview park sign, well, it surprisingly didn't turn out as bad as I could imagine it to be, but this shouldn't become a trend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 14, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 31, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
^ Pick-a-state, Anystate? But probably...Massachusetts?

correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 14, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 14, 2014, 12:53:54 AM
X Post from the fonts forum.

:banghead: What in the world is this? (Forgive me for being a bit of a font n00b, but this is something I have never seen)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/13836866795_c4a4c552d3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT)
Shields at Grovenor Metro Station Exit (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

The font looks like Franklin Gothic, but its been compressed on the shield, and stretched on the banners.

...could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 14, 2014, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on April 01, 2014, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 01, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
I always thought the paddle signs were duplicated on both sides? (Then again, I haven't spent any serious time in MA since 1991.)

They can be, but usually aren't.

The majority of Massachusetts "paddle" signs (except for those at the ends of freeway off-ramps) were normally double-sided for several decades.  The transition away from PBS (painted both sides) signs began in the mid-1990s (at the same time as MassHighway started including actual route shields on all signs instead of numbers) and was encouraged by MUTCD and local FHWA guidance to place most directional signs on the right side of the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 15, 2014, 02:30:18 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 14, 2014, 06:29:56 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 14, 2014, 12:53:54 AM
X Post from the fonts forum.

:banghead: What in the world is this? (Forgive me for being a bit of a font n00b, but this is something I have never seen)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/13836866795_c4a4c552d3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT)
Shields at Grovenor Metro Station Exit (https://flic.kr/p/n5HyqT) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

The font looks like Franklin Gothic, but its been compressed on the shield, and stretched on the banners.

...could be wrong, though.


Stretched Franklin Gothic is exactly right for the banners, but the shields are Helvetica Black.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 15, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 14, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
You know, I understand sign designing companies will allow custom signs, and I'm all for that, but can they start to reduce the number of custom fonts? This is just ugly.

As for the Clearview park sign, well, it surprisingly didn't turn out as bad as I could imagine it to be, but this shouldn't become a trend.

There are some brown signs using Clearview (either all-Clearview or partial) on the George Washington Memorial Parkway near Arlington Memorial Bridge. The Clearview is in all-caps, too. I've never been able to get a good picture due to traffic in the area, though.

It looks weird when it's on the same sign as the National Park Service's standard serif font!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 15, 2014, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: roadman on April 14, 2014, 06:48:16 PMThe transition away from PBS (painted both sides) signs began in the mid-1990s (at the same time as MassHighway started including actual route shields on all signs instead of numbers)
Actually, one of the first non-painted on both sides paddle LGS' date back to 1977 when Bell Circle (MA 1A/16/60) was reconstructed w/its cut-through (for MA 60 West/MA 1A South transition movements).  Those LGS panels were also one of if not the first metal LGS'.  Those particular LGS' have all since been replaced.  Scroll down for photos of the original metal Bell Circle BGS' (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_1a/2.html)

Wooden paddle LGS' were made up until the early-to-mid 90s.

Painted wooden LGS panels containing messages only on one side had the backs painted in a flat green finish rather than a reflective/glossy finish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 15, 2014, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.
PA's got a ton of those; some are even located in the median (example: I-476 along the Blue Route).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 15, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
NJ installed a lot of theirs low to the ground.  I wished they would do what PA does, just so they're easier to see from the furthest lane away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 15, 2014, 03:14:50 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
That was a common mounting option for early "fiber optic/flip disc" VMS panels installed in many states in the 1990s.  One of the reasons for this was that the "FO/FD" design necessitated the use of walk-in cabinets for component maintenance and replacement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on April 15, 2014, 03:36:49 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

MoDOT does that rather often.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_3832_zps89b970fc.jpg&hash=33206862801dd278b85c8522a0ee4f677a847612) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_3832_zps89b970fc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
How about this one? An attempt to save on the cost of a 1/4" bolt? Also this is just odd for many reasons. Too low, mounted on a rock, colors mixed, doesn't make sense.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/13860691163_8e1695bc69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR)
Saving Bolts (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 15, 2014, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
How about this one? An attempt to save on the cost of a 1/4" bolt? Also this is just odd for many reasons. Too low, mounted on a rock, colors mixed, doesn't make sense.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3718/13860691163_8e1695bc69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR)
Saving Bolts (https://flic.kr/p/n7PEzR) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Sadly, the "let's save a bolt or two" practice is all too common in many muncipalities in Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2014, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
How about this one? An attempt to save on the cost of a 1/4" bolt? Also this is just odd for many reasons. Too low, mounted on a rock, colors mixed, doesn't make sense.


given the loading docks in the background, I would bet that it was actually the company who owns the warehouse who put up those two signs on the public right of way.  I think they probably asked the relevant municipal authority to furnish signage... but when one more of their trucks got dinged by a careless driver while the request was slowly worming through the bureaucracy, they just went ahead and procured for themselves.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

[no texting/no hand-held phone]

well, that's better than the "if you see something, say something" that was prevalent circa 2006, but it's still pretty fucking nanny.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 15, 2014, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 15, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
"if you see something, say something" that was prevalent circa 2006

I have seen something similar to that in 2014.

(It's on an advertising sign that switches between advertisements and public service announcements).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 15, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

O(hio)DOT sometimes does that when there's a curve in the road, so the sign is directly ahead of the traffic a couple hundred feet upstream.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 10:38:15 AM
This is probably fake, but it made me smile anyway:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F252029_10151176439306765_385468626_n_zps778a3e64.jpg&hash=a492c33661f75987808e2e18d54b738ddcfb9622)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 17, 2014, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 10:38:15 AM
This is probably fake, but it made me smile anyway:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fprojectroadrush.freeforums.net%2Fattachment%2Fdownload%2F14&hash=7124197031bc19b02dcf738088634d0e95501805)

I don't see anything - but it might be because the link is pointing to an attachment on a forum, which is usually unable to be linked to without registration.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 17, 2014, 10:50:11 AM
I don't see anything - but it might be because the link is pointing to an attachment on a forum, which is usually unable to be linked to without registration.

It's showing up fine for me on multiple devices, but thanks for telling me. I'll edit the original post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 17, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
It's showing up fine for me on multiple devices, but thanks for telling me. I'll edit the original post.

If that sign is fake - then I will give whoever did that a gold medal in Photoshopping, because it's fooling me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 17, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 17, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 17, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
It's showing up fine for me on multiple devices, but thanks for telling me. I'll edit the original post.

If that sign is fake - then I will give whoever did that a gold medal in Photoshopping, because it's fooling me.

This image has been featured here before. I believe it was determined to be fake. But it is indeed a very good fake.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: shadyjay on April 17, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

Vermont's only permanent VMS is mounted on two poles on the side and is about 1/4 the size of the above linked image.  It's located on I-89 North after Exit 4 and the former rest area on the climb up to Brookfield Heights, the highest point on I-89.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.042676,-72.609744,3a,75y,29.68h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sdK_yBBBL3dmXbfzs-Tbi8A!2e0

Also in recent years, MassDOT has installed some slightly larger ones than the VT one on I-91 in the Greenfield area.  Given MassDOT's desire to move all BGSs to overheads (even in extremely rural areas), I wonder if the VMSs too will go overhead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on April 22, 2014, 07:30:29 AM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7134/13939688336_bf411dba3a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/neNxG5)
48732 (https://flic.kr/p/neNxG5) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people/39506502@N04/), on Flickr

135th just west of Nall. Given the actual design of the sign and the orange sticker in back, this is at best a refurbished KDOT installation that probably is a leftover from the K-150 days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on April 23, 2014, 12:38:38 AM
The red and white No Right Turn on Red sign in Mountain City, TN is the only one of its kind I've seen. I had to use a weird angle to get a good StreetView image of it - http://goo.gl/maps/LHQPV
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on April 23, 2014, 12:42:28 AM
Quote from: talllguy on April 15, 2014, 01:20:17 PM
I thought this was odd because VMS are usually mounted overhead. I don't think I've ever seen one mounted on a pole like this. Looks like a billboard. I-495 in Maryland.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/13860659405_4691ded97b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i)
VMS on a Pole (https://flic.kr/p/n7Pv9i) by Elliott P (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

NCDOT has put up VMS with this style in advance of the Business 40 project in Winston-Salem.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2014, 12:42:49 AM
"Right Lane Must Turn Right" on a freeway (http://goo.gl/7JIxnZ). WSDOT...wat

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcwSJI6a.png&hash=80840f85894e75991347290bfce6e09c91fe3e29)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 23, 2014, 10:45:53 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEQWSV4Q.jpg&hash=10f90c736a14911d81a010ffed87b6de793f58c9)

Across from the county courthouse, in Guthrie. Particularly unique, odd, and interesting because as far as I know, Logan County (and Oklahoma in general!) has never used county pentagons...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 23, 2014, 10:52:12 PM
That white on blue County Route shield reminds me of how Somerset County signs their county roads... well, I think they stopped and switched to yellow on blue now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on April 25, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
The stick-on letters look as if they were purchased from either Hobby Lobby or Dollar General.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on April 25, 2014, 07:33:18 PM
I think that might be mailbox font series "C"

:-D 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 02, 2014, 01:14:51 AM
A couple of interesting spots today in Seattle:

A symbol-only "no right turn on red":

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvw2kEvn.png&hash=9ba66fdb91c3d80a96c3df0b246ab10e584fe2de)

And a new theme in Seattle (it would seem). Overhead "turn only" signs that are white arrows on a black background. I think they look nicer with the black signal arm.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5uqfXk0.jpg&hash=6664bee49b88a769165ecf5e680604e22bd4cbeb)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 02, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
^^ So Seattle adopted the Canadian "no turn on red" symbol sign I see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 04, 2014, 02:22:33 PM
The first time I saw that style of No Turn on Red sign was on the Island of Montreal. Turning on red is now legal in the province of Quebec except on the Island of Montreal (similar to New York State versus New York City, though I don't know of Montreal having an exception where a sign permits it like NYC has).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 04, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 02, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
^^ So Seattle adopted the Canadian "no turn on red" symbol sign I see.

Yes, they are going the way of the Canucks! Fine by me, I prefer their MUTCD anyways.

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 04, 2014, 02:22:33 PM
The first time I saw that style of No Turn on Red sign was on the Island of Montreal. Turning on red is now legal in the province of Quebec except on the Island of Montreal (similar to New York State versus New York City, though I don't know of Montreal having an exception where a sign permits it like NYC has).

I only started paying attention to signs about a year ago, but I too have only seen this sign in Canada. There is a sort of half-symbol-half-text no turn on red sign a number of blocks south at the off-ramp from I-5 North (http://goo.gl/HN1lM3) but this is the only American symbol-only no turn on red that I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
Ryder University had these signs posted near the south exit/entrance to the University - my guess is they were trying to help people get back home (today was the Class of 2014 Commencement Ceremony, which my family attended). Yeah, it's pretty ugly, but at least the fonts didn't turn out to be Arial. Or something worse.

Sorry for the amount of water on the window - it was raining. Very hard. I got rained on quite hard while walking to my parent's car... but I didn't care. Worst case scenario my hair was really wet, which didn't really bother me. (And for those wondering - yeah, it got pretty wet... as did the rest of my body)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSigns%2FIMG_1504_zps26527ad1.jpg&hash=b9ea754186f025be087b845f218fb5da8a3ff7d7)

Also, there was this sign, which I had to do a rendition of, because I couldn't get my phone unlocked fast enough to snap it... (somehow they got the Turnpike shield right here, because I remember thinking to myself "wow, they used the correct fonts" and then smacking my head when I saw the non-cutout shields ahead. And yes, the sign had just the white background behind it, no border, and used Arial.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSigns%2FRyderGuideSign_zpsb495893b.png&hash=136fc411f7e1ddf970dcace7b12d101d51fc6aed)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 16, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
Sorry for the amount of water on the window - it was raining. Very hard.

Quit with the excuses.  Get out there and dry the window next time! :-)

Otherwise, for a temporary setup, looks like they executed it well, with guiding traffic both directions to prevent overloading of any one particular route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 16, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
Otherwise, for a temporary setup, looks like they executed it well, with guiding traffic both directions to prevent overloading of any one particular route.

True, except the junction with I-95 is probably less than a mile north of the University, and the sorry saps who went south on 206 got to see the worst of Trenton (and probably added about 5-10 more minutes) getting to I-195. Coming to the University, Exit 7A was packed coming from I-95 North. Coming out was easy since there wasn't much traffic at all.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 16, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
Quit with the excuses.  Get out there and dry the window next time! :-)

Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 16, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2014, 07:18:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 16, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.

If we are gonna get a tent why not just stay the night there? Get a number of shots at different light levels, just see which one turns out best! Easy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on May 17, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: jake on May 16, 2014, 07:18:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 16, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.

If we are gonna get a tent why not just stay the night there? Get a number of shots at different light levels, just see which one turns out best! Easy.
While you're at it, why don't you just make it stop raining.  Can't be too hard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 17, 2014, 10:56:18 AM
So for next time, it looks like I need to use my WeatherChanger Machine™ that I have secretly built, bring an oversized hair dryer, and set up for the night with a tent.

How genius.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 17, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on May 17, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: jake on May 16, 2014, 07:18:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 16, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 16, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Well that would've worked if it weren't POURING rain when I took the picture.  :D
Get a tent to cover the car and the shields.  And dry the shields first too.  And the scenery.

If we are gonna get a tent why not just stay the night there? Get a number of shots at different light levels, just see which one turns out best! Easy.
While you're at it, why don't you just make it stop raining.  Can't be too hard.
Too easy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 24, 2014, 12:17:56 AM
Interesting groups of signs I found on a fire station in Chicago:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.894972,-87.748502,3a,19.6y,313.52h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPq5a7UaRGrLWyP-n0cCU5g!2e0

From what I can see in the picture, the shields say 'UNIT(s)' at the top, and the unit number at the bottom. It looks to be in full FHWA font as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 24, 2014, 12:51:27 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 24, 2014, 12:17:56 AM
Interesting groups of signs I found on a fire station in Chicago:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.894972,-87.748502,3a,19.6y,313.52h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPq5a7UaRGrLWyP-n0cCU5g!2e0

From what I can see in the picture, the shields say 'UNIT(s)' at the top, and the unit number at the bottom. It looks to be in full FHWA font as well.

They probably asked a local DOT sign shop to makee those for them. They're probably retroreflective and everything.  The US route marker seems appropriate because of the shape similarity to police/fire badges.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on May 24, 2014, 10:21:40 AM

Quote from: vtk on May 24, 2014, 12:51:27 AM

They probably asked a local DOT sign shop to makee those for them. They're probably retroreflective and everything.  The US route marker seems appropriate because of the shape similarity to police/fire badges.

A couple stations here have something along those lines, although slightly less serious.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F05%2F24%2Fyhy8a5eb.jpg&hash=0b6b3072f03451fbda8047ee5a6b86d30c6f8c50)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mcdonaat on May 27, 2014, 12:32:01 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/eWLV1
Texas has Alternate US 90 and Alternate US 77. We have Alternate LA 2 and Alternate Myth and Legends Trail.

http://goo.gl/maps/eWLV1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 27, 2014, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: vtk on May 24, 2014, 12:51:27 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 24, 2014, 12:17:56 AM
Interesting groups of signs I found on a fire station in Chicago:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.894972,-87.748502,3a,19.6y,313.52h,87.57t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPq5a7UaRGrLWyP-n0cCU5g!2e0

From what I can see in the picture, the shields say 'UNIT(s)' at the top, and the unit number at the bottom. It looks to be in full FHWA font as well.

They probably asked a local DOT sign shop to makee those for them. They're probably retroreflective and everything.  The US route marker seems appropriate because of the shape similarity to police/fire badges.

Probably CDOT, not IDOT.  The Chicago Department of Transportation (CDOT) is responsible for all non-expressway signage in the city, including Lake Shore Drive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
I still get a kick out the BC dashed borders...it seems that they largely are involved with truck signs, but there are some that aren't directly related to trucks, so not 100% sure. Also, these signs aren't particularly unique (there's hundreds across BC) but they are certainly unique to BC, from my knowledge.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeF68QOH.png&hash=3a59c8b42105e3d58fb573c06ecbca2821ab734a)(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOkcDoDX.png&hash=1be42f56f028736a6992bd145590f37df75131b8)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 29, 2014, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: jake on May 29, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeF68QOH.png&hash=3a59c8b42105e3d58fb573c06ecbca2821ab734a)

Why is "Detour Via" not in all caps?  And is it common practice in BC to have figures to the right of a decimal point in smaller type?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Quote from: vtk on May 29, 2014, 12:33:14 PM
Why is "Detour Via" not in all caps?  And is it common practice in BC to have figures to the right of a decimal point in smaller type?

Not sure why "Detour Via" is not in caps, but in regards to smaller numbers right of a decimal point, that's a standard. Here's a distance sign with the same approach:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCV911NA.png&hash=a8fddecfdf9a7396d2eac739cfddcc22b02d15a7)

And here's another dotted border sign. This one definitely relates to trucks:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfbpL93E.png&hash=af69ae9f64e8bce75b1571177829c047ae333b19)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: jake on May 29, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Not sure why "Detour Via" is not in caps, but in regards to smaller numbers right of a decimal point, that's a standard. Here's a distance sign with the same approach:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCV911NA.png&hash=a8fddecfdf9a7396d2eac739cfddcc22b02d15a7)

Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 29, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.

I believe the UK is guilty of this practice on signs such as this one:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.health-safety-signs.uk.com%2Fproductimages%2F629-2A---height-limit.gif&hash=5081dc18f9c1baf3c9d2d19fd97cfd58a731dc96)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 29, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.

I believe the UK is guilty of this practice on signs such as this one

Canada is made up largely of English people. Clearly some things were pulled from the old world. This practice, and then you have BC's roundabout diagrams (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg282128#msg282128), which are pulled from the UK, and the fingerposts (http://goo.gl/WUxZtk), which are a UK staple.

Also, never bothered to notice this before, but...

Quote from: jake on May 29, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCV911NA.png&hash=a8fddecfdf9a7396d2eac739cfddcc22b02d15a7)

"5.0"...so 5? Must be a continuity thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: jake on May 29, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
Not sure why "Detour Via" is not in caps, but in regards to smaller numbers right of a decimal point, that's a standard. Here's a distance sign with the same approach:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCV911NA.png&hash=a8fddecfdf9a7396d2eac739cfddcc22b02d15a7)

Damn, I hate that.  Just use a fricking fraction and make it look nicer instead of those ugly small numbers after a point.

Fractions are non-standard with metric units. That's part of the whole point of the system.

If you don't like the decimal points, you'd REALLY hate the signs in Quebec that use the standard French version of the decimal point–a comma, such as 1,5 km (meaning 1500 m). Not all their signs are like that, though–some use a period instead.

Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0

I find it interesting that they kept the FHWA font inside the exit number box and inside the route shield. Reminds me of our standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
Fractions are non-standard with metric units. That's part of the whole point of the system.

If you don't like the decimal points, you'd REALLY hate the signs in Quebec that use the standard French version of the decimal point–a comma, such as 1,5 km (meaning 1500 m). Not all their signs are like that, though–some use a period instead.

Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0

I'm even less fond of the comma being misused in place of a decimal point.  The "point" of SI may be a lack of fractions, but fractions actually, IMHO, make it easier to read as one drives.

1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on May 29, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

Plus, it's so easy to miss the decimal at a glance.  On a resurfacing project on I-93 between Wilmington (MA) and Methuen (MA) a few years back, the contractor installed a sign reading "Road Work Next 13.8 Miles".  Problem was, the sign was so small that the decimal became nearly invisible.  A quick look at the panel, and you'd swear the sign read "138 Miles".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 29, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

Plus, it's so easy to miss the decimal at a glance.  On a resurfacing project on I-93 between Wilmington (MA) and Methuen (MA) a few years back, the contractor installed a sign reading "Road Work Next 13.8 Miles".  Problem was, the sign was so small that the decimal became nearly invisible.  A quick look at the panel, and you'd swear the sign read "138 Miles".

It wouldn't necessarily be wrong, but introducing factors into a base ten system (metric) is extraneous at best. It might be easier to read a fraction from a distance, to an American, but in Canada, fractions aren't really as commonplace. It would confuse more people than it would assist.

Also, notice how in these examples, the decimal is smaller than the whole? That's probably their way of preventing people from thinking it's, for example, 15 vs 1.5 (the latter being correct).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 29, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 29, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

Plus, it's so easy to miss the decimal at a glance.  On a resurfacing project on I-93 between Wilmington (MA) and Methuen (MA) a few years back, the contractor installed a sign reading "Road Work Next 13.8 Miles".  Problem was, the sign was so small that the decimal became nearly invisible.  A quick look at the panel, and you'd swear the sign read "138 Miles".

That would be why the Canadians put the decimal portion in a smaller font that the whole number portion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 29, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
Fractions are non-standard with metric units. That's part of the whole point of the system.

If you don't like the decimal points, you'd REALLY hate the signs in Quebec that use the standard French version of the decimal point–a comma, such as 1,5 km (meaning 1500 m). Not all their signs are like that, though–some use a period instead.

Sample from Autoroute 15 southeast of Montreal linked below. I recall the old non-Clearview signs using a larger, more pronounced comma than the one seen here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.350177,-73.519923,3a,75y,21.43h,107.99t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssjlMFKiLulmXJzpxOqaokg!2e0

I'm even less fond of the comma being misused in place of a decimal point.  The "point" of SI may be a lack of fractions, but fractions actually, IMHO, make it easier to read as one drives.

1 1/2 is a lot easier to see and read at 70 mph than 1.5 or 1,5.

It's not "misuse" of the comma. That's the normal way to write the decimal point in French (and some other languages as well).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 29, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
I do not understand why those languages adopted the comma for decimals at all.  Commas mean "pause between breaths".  Decimal points mean "break in idea".  A decimal number is the latter, not the former!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on May 29, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 29, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
I do not understand why those languages adopted the comma for decimals at all.  Commas mean "pause between breaths".  Decimal points mean "break in idea".  A decimal number is the latter, not the former!

I don't think of it that way. It's more like: our decimal mark looks like a period, theirs looks like a comma.

The only reason we call them decimal points is because we use the variant that looks like a period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 29, 2014, 08:57:31 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 29, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
I do not understand why those languages adopted the comma for decimals at all.  Commas mean "pause between breaths".  Decimal points mean "break in idea".  A decimal number is the latter, not the former!

Not in other languages.

Я уверен, что русские удивляются, почему мы используем наш алфавит.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 05, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
I found this assembly at highway-themed ride at a waterpark near me (photo not by me, can be found here (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25104&view=next)):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.themeparkreview.com%2Fforum%2Ffiles%2Fhh_7_152.jpg&hash=7df0d5440767d05ba14ccbd66ab6af134b35769f)

It's interesting how they combine US-style signage with some semi-European signage. Furthermore, why are the fonts different on each sign? Why does VA-55 point away from ALT-I-66?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 05, 2014, 08:33:46 PM
That's surprisingly a lot better than it could have been.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on June 05, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Considering this is Virgina, I suppose we should be happy that the Interstate shield is a cutout.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 05, 2014, 11:05:41 PM
The "TO OLD ALT" plates look like they could have come off of one of the assemblies with cutouts for Alternate US 58 in the Norton area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 06, 2014, 10:10:07 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on June 05, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
I found this assembly at highway-themed ride at a waterpark near me (photo not by me, can be found here (http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25104&view=next)):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.themeparkreview.com%2Fforum%2Ffiles%2Fhh_7_152.jpg&hash=7df0d5440767d05ba14ccbd66ab6af134b35769f)

It's interesting how they combine US-style signage with some semi-European signage. Furthermore, why are the fonts different on each sign? Why does VA-55 point away from ALT-I-66?

This would be very close to an assembly that could have existed if the US HH shield were a VA 17 and the 713 shield were a 731.

From 1962 to the late 70s, this was the western end of I-66 in the Delaplane area:
http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=989&lon=-77.92889564664125&lat=38.89860444226724&year=1965

If you were on VA 55 EB and reached the beginning of the I-66 section, a sign there could have been that 55 east goes left, I-66 east goes straight (rightish), that getting to 17 north is to the left, and faster access to SR 731 south is possible by following 66 because what is now Exit 23 is open.  A little stretch but not outrageous...



I am curious about the BGS in the background though...

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 06, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on June 05, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Considering this is Virgina, I suppose we should be happy that the Interstate shield is a cutout.
I don't think that it is the right shape though. It seems to be too pointy at the bottom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 06, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on June 05, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Considering this is Virgina, I suppose we should be happy that the Interstate shield is a cutout.

We have a lot of cutout Interstate shields in Virginia, especially once you get off the Interstate and look for shields pointing you towards an interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 06, 2014, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 05, 2014, 11:05:41 PM
The "TO OLD ALT" plates look like they could have come off of one of the assemblies with cutouts for Alternate US 58 in the Norton area.

all that's missing is a ZU.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 06, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 06, 2014, 10:10:07 AM

I am curious about the BGS in the background though...

Mapmikey

The BGS (which I don't have a photo of) is actually pretty good, except that the exit tab is misaligned.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 09, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
Is there anything glaringly wrong with this setup? Sort of an APL but a bit different because it indicates both an immediate and upcoming exit.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7IkoO4N.png&hash=c51debed2e68c1c5b15f417ac5fbce8465bd9717)

Also, don't worry, the colors are the normal yellow and green. Sun slightly distorts the color.

-- This was reposted from "The Worst of Road Signs" --
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 09, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
Here are a few interesting ones in Huntsville:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/14197545289_b1785640f5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB)
Highway to hell? (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3762/8861130127_385184d65a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ev2BgD)
White &quot;Stop Ahead&quot; Sign (https://flic.kr/p/ev2BgD) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7344/9324847886_fc0b89ecf7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hpq)
This Lane Must Turn Right (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hpq) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3708/9322063453_f1c9affe10.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fcL1FX)
This Lane Must Turn Right (https://flic.kr/p/fcL1FX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

One that you don't see every day:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3829/9324849840_bc228aa886.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7)
Left Lane Must Turn Left (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 09, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 09, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
One that you don't see every day:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3829/9324849840_bc228aa886.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7)
Left Lane Must Turn Left (https://flic.kr/p/fd1hZ7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I've seen quite a few of those in New Jersey, enough to qualify them as common.

Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 09, 2014, 01:51:42 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/14197545289_b1785640f5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB)
Highway to hell? (https://flic.kr/p/nCA8zB) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

That's a variant of a US Highway shield that I've never seen... and there's a lot of variants too, we had a thread on it but I cannot seem to find it at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on June 09, 2014, 02:57:11 PM
is there something I'm missing on "LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT"?  I remember once someone photoshopped one to say "LEFT LANE MUST LEFT RIGHT" and posted it on Failblog or something similar... but this one looks to be standard.

the shield shape on the 72 - I've seen it in Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee, Virginia, and Wisconsin.  it appears to have originated in Alabama.

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/AL/AL19600431i1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 09, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on June 09, 2014, 02:57:11 PM
is there something I'm missing on "LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT"?  I remember once someone photoshopped one to say "LEFT LANE MUST LEFT RIGHT" and posted it on Failblog or something similar... but this one looks to be standard.
It's the only one I know of in Huntsville. That's why I included it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 09, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
Maryland also has used a shield shape similar to Alabama's.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 09, 2014, 06:31:27 PM
Isn't Left Lane Must Turn Left just the textual equivalent of the "[left arrow] ONLY" signs which are common pretty much everywhere?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 09, 2014, 06:36:07 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 09, 2014, 06:31:27 PM
Isn't Left Lane Must Turn Left just the textual equivalent of the "[left arrow] ONLY" signs which are common pretty much everywhere?

I see the signs all the time. However, I usually don't see them with another sign on the other side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 10, 2014, 05:08:10 AM
I've seen some in Adrian, MI.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on June 11, 2014, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 09, 2014, 06:31:27 PM
Isn't Left Lane Must Turn Left just the textual equivalent of the "[left arrow] ONLY" signs which are common pretty much everywhere?
You are correct.  However, for many years, the MUTCD strongly frowned upon use of the "[left arrow] ONLY" (R3-5L) signs for ground-mounted installations, even if they were installed in medians and/or combined with other arrows on the sign (current R3-8 series).  As such, a very common application at an intersection with overhead signals and dedicated turn lanes would have a "Left Lane Must Turn Left" text sign (R3-7L) ground-mounted in advance of the intersection (usually at or just prior to the point of curvature where the turn lane begins), and a R3-5L text sign mounted on the mast arm or span wire above the turn lane at the intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 11, 2014, 11:04:07 PM
This one may be an oldie, but it definitely counts as "unique, odd or interesting."

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1238/614303487_0439572f5a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 11, 2014, 11:09:36 PM
An oddity in the United States: Street signs in French. (Lafayette, LA)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5475/14237230024_99525cfaa5_o.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: jake on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on June 15, 2014, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: jake on May 04, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
I only started paying attention to signs about a year ago, but I too have only seen this sign in Canada. There is a sort of half-symbol-half-text no turn on red sign a number of blocks south at the off-ramp from I-5 North (http://goo.gl/HN1lM3) but this is the only American symbol-only no turn on red that I have ever seen.

The half symbol no turn on red sign is fairly common in Missouri.  IIRC there's also one somewhere around Kenosha, WI.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: jake on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.

They have, I've seen them.

Now, for the best looking stop signs out there, I prefer Michigan's custom font.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.361655,-83.275274&spn=0.002259,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.361655,-83.275274&panoid=5HcemoS5yqYNmaa7eD7r2A&cbp=12,325.34,,2,-0.32

The "S" has the same curvature on both the top and bottom parts, unlike FHWA which is smaller on top.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ctsignguy on June 19, 2014, 08:21:36 AM
I liked Ohio's old-style STOPs....you could see THAT message from quite the distance away!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2FMain%2520Sign%2520Collection%2FODOTstopyellow_zpsf261a7f8.jpg&hash=a723c7e1b96b8c1e8fcba0f85ac8aecef2972422) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/ctsignguy/media/Main%20Sign%20Collection/ODOTstopyellow_zpsf261a7f8.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2FMain%2520Sign%2520Collection%2FODOTstopred-a_zps3c34b496.jpg&hash=c955f029603b56ce8891b14da645b1cbab8f1f5a) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/ctsignguy/media/Main%20Sign%20Collection/ODOTstopred-a_zps3c34b496.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iowahighways on June 19, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
One for the "wordy signs" category from downtown Davenport, IA:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6165/6178087998_da638a1ff6.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 19, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
Quote from: iowahighways on June 19, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
One for the "wordy signs" category from downtown Davenport, IA:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6165/6178087998_da638a1ff6.jpg)

At least that's supposed to be read while you are not moving. A sign with this much text that is meant to be read at 30+ miles per hour would not work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 19, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
Block Face -- sounds like an insult of one's appearance.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on June 19, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaBReVIN.png&hash=592cf1e8d7cc7f21defaff8e5420b5db3d5cadc1)

I walked past this on a college tour today and it caught my eye.  It's interesting for a couple reasons: the compact DE 273 shields, and the twice out-of-date DE 2 shields.

I guess Delaware used to use circular shields for 3-digit routes a while ago, based on photos I've seen.  This is the only one still in use that I've come across though.

The DE 2 shields are leftover from when the route used to cut through Newark on Main St. and Delaware Ave.  DelDOT (or Newark, whoever's in charge of that) did a really poor job at updating the shields when DE 2 was routed around town and Business 2 was assigned through town, then they did an equally poor job at removing the shields when Business 2 was deleted last summer.  There's DE 2 shields all through downtown Newark, so I wouldn't have posted anything about it in this thread had it not been for those old DE 273 shields.

(I wasn't sure where to post this sign, it kinda qualifies for a few different threads)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on June 20, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
Here's a sign.... but where's the signpost?

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14269184017_fd07e75e52.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nJVih6)
48963 (https://flic.kr/p/nJVih6) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

From the "You had one (temporary) job" department:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2925/14040924667_2cb66f4a5d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/noKpJ4)
48843 (https://flic.kr/p/noKpJ4) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on June 20, 2014, 08:38:26 AM
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: jake on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.

They have, I've seen them.

Now, for the best looking stop signs out there, I prefer Michigan's custom font.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.361655,-83.275274&spn=0.002259,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.361655,-83.275274&panoid=5HcemoS5yqYNmaa7eD7r2A&cbp=12,325.34,,2,-0.32

The "S" has the same curvature on both the top and bottom parts, unlike FHWA which is smaller on top.
That font on the stop sign used to be seen often in the New England states many years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on June 23, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
Found this new-ish one today at the junction of NT 1 and NT 3. Canada's most northerly exit sign? It's so cute when the kids get together and play Make-Believe Freeway. But it's designed so well!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFai0DhU.jpg&hash=50a9246d109449503d74c53f9b8236be061a5093)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on June 24, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 23, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
Found this new-ish one today at the junction of NT 1 and NT 3. Canada's most northerly exit sign? It's so cute when the kids get together and play Make-Believe Freeway. But it's designed so well!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFai0DhU.jpg&hash=50a9246d109449503d74c53f9b8236be061a5093)
NWT's route marker is far too small to be legible on a BGS (or, in this case, a LBS)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on June 24, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
But in the Arctic, roads are known by names, not number. Yellowknife is going to be more useful as NWT3 is the Yellowknife Highway.

Note that (paper) mapping agencies put these names fairly prominently on the maps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on June 24, 2014, 07:06:58 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JakeFromNewEngland on June 25, 2014, 11:56:30 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1001.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf138%2Fjakez1112%2FScreenShot2014-06-25at114901AM_zps99e004f5.png&hash=40ca2c72024359edffe39682e9717a688b3abe5d)

This is one of the interesting signs in my city. In a way, the Derby/Waterbury sign makes sense because the road it's on eventually leads to CT 121 which provides connections to both cities via CT 34 and CT 8. I'm surprised the city hasn't replaced it because it's been there for awhile I would assume.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on June 26, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
Found this sign while wondering around on Google Street View:

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=29.053075,-95.453918&spn=0.005383,0.010568&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=29.053072,-95.45597&panoid=B2sVH9G5VdT1dgWZtqefxw&cbp=12,224.8,,1,1.38

It's a little strange, especially the part that says "This Way" with the dinky arrow off to the side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on June 27, 2014, 02:13:59 AM
lol. nice find. "this way" should at least be in all caps!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on June 27, 2014, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 24, 2014, 07:06:58 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.

Four Main Streets, it makes Atlanta's Peachtree system seem sensible in comparison.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WichitaRoads on June 27, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: mrsman on June 27, 2014, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 24, 2014, 07:06:58 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14298409270_bfd25521cd.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/14298409270/)

That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.

Four Main Streets, it makes Atlanta's Peachtree system seem sensible in comparison.

How old is the image? If you look at Google images, the signs are not there... but, it was last updated in 2009.

ICTRds
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 27, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: WichitaRoads on June 27, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: mrsman on June 27, 2014, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 24, 2014, 07:06:58 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on June 22, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
Orange, Mass:


That is the first time I have ever seen a city have TWO separate Main Streets which cross each other!

This was an added bonus.  I first went back for the picture for the traffic-light-mounted street sign, only later discovering it was at the intersection of four Main Streets.

Four Main Streets, it makes Atlanta's Peachtree system seem sensible in comparison.

How old is the image? If you look at Google images, the signs are not there... but, it was last updated in 2009.

ICTRds

Google Street view circa 2008 does not show it, however, imagery from 2011 does. It's likely a new addition to the signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on June 29, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad16%2FBJFRacing01%2FIMG_2347_zps3ab16bd6.jpg&hash=063739ddd99a8a14baa1e46593179c94692a263d)

The remnant of what US 10 was back in the day. The shield is still there in its glory, of which it was painted on this Milwaukee Road underpass bridge. When the Milwaukee Road was decomissioned in 1980, the bridge was removed along with the trackage, however the supporting structure is still there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on June 30, 2014, 12:31:53 AM
Extremely obvious and poor sign overlaying:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/14516068195_9633bd0687.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/o7JDkR)
49046 (https://flic.kr/p/o7JDkR) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3869/14329472409_8fdf270ebd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nQfhV8)
49047 (https://flic.kr/p/nQfhV8) by richiekennedy56 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 30, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
Clearview Signage in Washington State:

Washington State is not part of the list of states that use Clearview. Thus, the following photos do not depict WSDOT-installed signage. What they do depict, however, is big-green-sign signage that, while not DOT-installed, is Port of Seattle-installed. The signs are installed along what is basically a freeway connecting WA-518 to the airport. It's interesting to see the way the Port has signed things. The photos are in order from north, south along the freeway, and then back north again to the northern end where it began (in essence, a big U-turn). I consider the signs unique because Washington does not use Clearview. If you are in Washington, from my knowledge, this is the only place where you can be travelling 60 mph and have Clearview directing you.

If the following gallery is better suited for another thread, let me know. I'm well known for placing things in the wrong area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fo2LVYz3.png&hash=52448e373c15388d7494a700d4eff6e6bf25f049)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F47Kpznf.png&hash=d31957ce0e6eed245e7d0b4d42f0bd271de4e4fc)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLD2nZ45.png&hash=495a0a2b76fe11fb1964006caff1ffba2e4128ae)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4uKILjC.png&hash=fd0b3c66a180cae7b328d7f1ee514453e17f792c)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJDerwQL.png&hash=12931c5c00f3762cf57743c542ed1797d6486a83)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcPDNke6.png&hash=969b77d8da6328ba745422dcdd726b2e198c5497)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLdjfTX3.png&hash=606e4971f2abde46030e580b0ed2a8ce140f3c70)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 30, 2014, 10:10:28 AM
I prefer that over Frutiger or whatever it is airports tend to use on signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 30, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
Quote from: vtk on June 30, 2014, 10:10:28 AM
I prefer that over Frutiger or whatever it is airports tend to use on signs.

I think Frutiger looks nice actually for airport signing. At least it's better than Arial/Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 10:41:25 AM
Unique to CDOT (Chicago) signage:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4112_zps6497a1d4.jpg&hash=25f0048fcdb14121e62e9031c42815f2ffe3644d) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4112_zps6497a1d4.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4157_zps272e8a7a.jpg&hash=2c6906a00eb0912c2369b3c27b08db38433fbd8c) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4157_zps272e8a7a.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4171_zps8ad0a9e0.jpg&hash=b018a3f7994562017f2cfcc88112660a6050a403) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4171_zps8ad0a9e0.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4168_zps33d4da12.jpg&hash=3bc2ab6568688d1857d90d4339293181e84a6419) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4168_zps33d4da12.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4106_zps928d9ac6.jpg&hash=824e35a8d6937c56ba4a7cf92e81bfc317dc835a) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4106_zps928d9ac6.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4115_zpsb00eef27.jpg&hash=d02b0ccf389a99994d4f7b6ed519d1ea92d43ce0) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4115_zpsb00eef27.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
I don't think I've ever seen block numbers on signs that aren't street blade signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on July 05, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
I don't think I've ever seen block numbers on signs that aren't street blade signs.

Chicago even puts block numbers on freeway exit BGS, don't they?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on July 05, 2014, 02:06:19 PM
Quote from: vtk on July 05, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Chicago even puts block numbers on freeway exit BGS, don't they?

Yes, it does. On I-290 East:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F28tdxs4.png&hash=74eb5e11e6159d621001c6c2c70a35ffd1b9e94d)

Image from Google Street View
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: vtk on July 05, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 11:22:22 AM
I don't think I've ever seen block numbers on signs that aren't street blade signs.

Chicago even puts block numbers on freeway exit BGS, don't they?

Yes, within Chicago only.  Here's a few examples, various expressways:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2145.jpg&hash=e27ad7b9e5b94ed0be7d302adcd5d993617ce4ce) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2145.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4139_zps6de53f7a.jpg&hash=41d48b2eb3fab27bb87070b5214d736b80f3bc73) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4139_zps6de53f7a.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4149_zps3e11b26e.jpg&hash=64f7eff73b4d48cf2c9eab2b338bfb48714d069d) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4149_zps3e11b26e.jpg.html)

The city also posts them on signals.

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(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4169_zps054575be.jpg&hash=708a91c81730bdc6a4e0dacc61f2ddb4a52782a1) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4169_zps054575be.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Yes, within Chicago only.  Here's a few examples, various expressways:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2145.jpg&hash=e27ad7b9e5b94ed0be7d302adcd5d993617ce4ce) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2145.jpg.html)

Slightly off topic, but are there exits 51 A-G somewhere before that exit?  :)

Quote from: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4169_zps054575be.jpg&hash=708a91c81730bdc6a4e0dacc61f2ddb4a52782a1) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4169_zps054575be.jpg.html)

How NOT to do font-stretching, by Chicago Dept. of Transportation...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 05, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: jake on June 30, 2014, 01:55:21 AMIf you are in Washington, from my knowledge, this is the only place where you can be travelling 60 mph and have Clearview directing you.

Double check the sixth image, and you'll see that's not quite true.  (And I think the speed limit is 40 for most of the rest of it.)  But yeah, this is the only place I can think of in Washington that has Clearview on a freeway, though there are a few towns and counties that use it.  Everett is probably the most prominent one.

(This might explain why there's Clearview on Elliot Ave W at the Magnolia Bridge in Seattle.  I always assumed it was a city project, but I wonder if those signs were Port-erected, since they partially have to do with the cruise terminal.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 05, 2014, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Yes, within Chicago only.  Here's a few examples, various expressways:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2145.jpg&hash=e27ad7b9e5b94ed0be7d302adcd5d993617ce4ce) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2145.jpg.html)

Slightly off topic, but are there exits 51 A-G somewhere before that exit?  :)

Yes.  IDOT skips for this signage to get people into the correct lane for the Ike/Congress.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4144_zpsc60c8cae.jpg&hash=17bcf9d06c7b11c2958c3714dd8c3f412efbc1ab) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4144_zpsc60c8cae.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4145_zps61a0c82e.jpg&hash=1cc5cfbeda0a0fc0331f5e763859223d0634b637) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4145_zps61a0c82e.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4148_zps78dbcefc.jpg&hash=684615778f12cbf0eacb3c8fd1cb82c2f02e94d3) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4148_zps78dbcefc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 05, 2014, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 05, 2014, 05:28:02 PM

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4170_zps51a2919b.jpg&hash=2b83d31dc74bb479dd608ae6f9b2c1b3ad6fafed) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4170_zps51a2919b.jpg.html)
Getting off topic, but this Chicago intersection allows a left turn on green or green arrow, unlike some other Chicago intersections that allow a left only on a green arrow with a 5-section tower in both cases.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on July 05, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: jake on June 30, 2014, 01:55:21 AMIf you are in Washington, from my knowledge, this is the only place where you can be travelling 60 mph and have Clearview directing you.

Double check the sixth image, and you'll see that's not quite true.  (And I think the speed limit is 40 for most of the rest of it.)  But yeah, this is the only place I can think of in Washington that has Clearview on a freeway, though there are a few towns and counties that use it.  Everett is probably the most prominent one.

(This might explain why there's Clearview on Elliot Ave W at the Magnolia Bridge in Seattle.  I always assumed it was a city project, but I wonder if those signs were Port-erected, since they partially have to do with the cruise terminal.)

Does anyone actually go 40? So the Port of Seattle built a road to freeway-standards and then implement a 40 mph speed limit? I could easily fight that in court.

Fife has some pretty widespread Clearview, along with Puyallup and some signs in Tacoma (I can get specific if you're interested).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 05, 2014, 09:56:29 PM
I'm not sure where exactly the 40 MPH speed limit starts, it might be 60 closer to 518.  I'd guess average speed isn't much above 50, definitely nowhere close to 60.  Too many curves (and poor visibility around them) especially post-Light Rail construction.  Also, I'm guessing unpredictable congestion might be part of the reason for the low speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2014, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on July 05, 2014, 09:56:29 PM
I'm not sure where exactly the 40 MPH speed limit starts, it might be 60 closer to 518.  I'd guess average speed isn't much above 50, definitely nowhere close to 60.  Too many curves (and poor visibility around them) especially post-Light Rail construction.  Also, I'm guessing unpredictable congestion might be part of the reason for the low speed limit.

My suggestion: Speed limit 60 with a 40 mph advisory. The speed limit is a limit. I certainly don't feel a need to travel over 60.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on July 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: jake on June 30, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
Clearview Signage in Washington State:
(snip)

I passed under some of these signs this past week. Flew into Seattle to catch a cruise to Alaska.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 07, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
On the topic of oddly-fonted signs in Washington, there's this one approaching Tacoma on I-5 SB.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.24586,-122.33444,3a,15y,234.74h,92.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR5UZ7si4CZfIBBL16VLtsw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 07, 2014, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on July 07, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
On the topic of oddly-fonted signs in Washington, there's this one approaching Tacoma on I-5 SB.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.24586,-122.33444,3a,15y,234.74h,92.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR5UZ7si4CZfIBBL16VLtsw!2e0

That looks like Calibri, which is the default font for all newer Microsoft Office applications.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 07, 2014, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 07, 2014, 07:07:14 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on July 07, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
On the topic of oddly-fonted signs in Washington, there's this one approaching Tacoma on I-5 SB.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.24586,-122.33444,3a,15y,234.74h,92.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR5UZ7si4CZfIBBL16VLtsw!2e0

That looks like Calibri, which is the default font for all newer Microsoft Office applications.

Kacie, you have no idea how close we were to posting damn near the same sign.

Also, looks more to me like Myriad Pro Condensed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 07, 2014, 07:52:21 PM
It's definitely not Calibri, but I'm not sure what it is. Could also be Frutiger Light. It's hard to tell from the angle the image is at.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on July 07, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
Not sure I've seen a yield sign with "cross traffic does not stop" before, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a few more of them.  Here's one south of the IL 117 interchange with I-74 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=morton,+il&hl=en&ll=40.619727,-89.274763&spn=0.007085,0.016512&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=59.597077,135.263672&hnear=Morton,+Tazewell+County,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.619929,-89.274768&panoid=nPlKZX6YYaOlySnX2yGEyg&cbp=12,216.49,,0,8.83)


Regarding having block numbers on freeway signs, there are three time this happens on the Missouri side of the St. Louis area:

1) NB I-55 at Broadway (Exit 204) (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.572319,-90.236592&spn=0.007298,0.016512&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.57251,-90.236356&panoid=7iyGKWuD6E3zSd-MBd995w&cbp=12,52.72,,0,0.88)

2) NB I-55 at 3200 Broadway (Exit 206B) (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.590686,-90.213998&spn=0.014659,0.033023&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.590686,-90.213998&panoid=ZoRsyzcJ0m93D3TEdLxGxQ&cbp=12,4.71,,1,-0.26)

3) WB US 40 for 3000 Market Street (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.626018,-90.210987&spn=0.003663,0.008256&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=38.626018,-90.210987&panoid=zC6zoC7muUCFNbaL5CYGtA&cbp=12,304.08,,0,0)

Or how about an interchange sequence sign with exit numbers?  WB US 40 in the Chesterfield area (https://www.google.com/maps?q=st.+louis,+mo&hl=en&ll=38.647227,-90.532708&spn=0.014647,0.033023&sll=40.61993,-89.274763&sspn=0.007118,0.016512&hnear=St+Louis,+Missouri&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.647094,-90.532022&panoid=sGuR07forqaBtxgJ2qZ_0Q&cbp=12,279.71,,0,-1.99)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 07, 2014, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 07, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
Not sure I've seen a yield sign with "cross traffic does not stop" before, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a few more of them.  Here's one south of the IL 117 interchange with I-74 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=morton,+il&hl=en&ll=40.619727,-89.274763&spn=0.007085,0.016512&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=59.597077,135.263672&hnear=Morton,+Tazewell+County,+Illinois&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.619929,-89.274768&panoid=nPlKZX6YYaOlySnX2yGEyg&cbp=12,216.49,,0,8.83)

Nothing like a right-angle yield. And that isn't me being sarcastic...I genuinely like them. Especially in this case, where visibility is wide and clear.

Although, in regards to the "cross traffic does not stop" sign, it seems redundant, considering the "Yield" sign basically waves your priority at an intersection anyways. "Cross traffic does not stop" is basically a lengthy way of saying "yield".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom. These are inside the service station just before exit 11 in Brooklyn.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Also, are there any Belt Parkway shields elsewhere besides this service station?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alps on July 09, 2014, 12:37:48 AM
Quote from: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom. These are inside the service station just before exit 11 in Brooklyn.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Also, are there any Belt Parkway shields elsewhere besides this service station?
I've seen this design before, so yes, but I believe only on select intersecting streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on July 09, 2014, 12:41:22 PM

Quote from: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom. These are inside the service station just before exit 11 in Brooklyn.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Also, are there any Belt Parkway shields elsewhere besides this service station?

If you can read this, you're driving too slow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 09, 2014, 12:51:52 PM
^^ And the sign for the left arrow should be left of the sign for the through arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2014, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 09, 2014, 12:51:52 PM
^^ And the sign for the left arrow should be left of the sign for the through arrow.

The perfectionist in me saw that as well. There is another one set up similar to this on the other side of the service station.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on July 09, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Looks like the "B" and "P" are aligned intentionally. That wouldn't happen (or would be quite ugly) if "Parkway" were spelled out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: jbnv on July 09, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Looks like the "B" and "P" are aligned intentionally. That wouldn't happen (or would be quite ugly) if "Parkway" were spelled out.

I'd honestly rather it be spelled out and misaligned than to have to read "Belt Pickwee" in my head, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on July 09, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: Ian on July 09, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
Quote from: jbnv on July 09, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Ian on July 08, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
There's definitely enough room for "Parkway" to be spelled out at the bottom.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3863/14609090185_0b23a7bcd9_z.jpg)

Looks like the "B" and "P" are aligned intentionally. That wouldn't happen (or would be quite ugly) if "Parkway" were spelled out.

I'd honestly rather it be spelled out and misaligned than to have to read "Belt Pickwee" in my head, but that's just me.

So these would make you say "Expee"?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2128.jpg&hash=bdec29daba32d5ebdca9429f57c7be391912e716) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2128.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2778.jpg&hash=bf206d9c90fc3f218a1d5e4cb42681b103bc2c9f) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2778.jpg.html)

Or how about "Rit"?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_2235.jpg&hash=bb4d5e78e62eae6a028df04d5477ba03113b2f49) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_2235.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
^ In my head, yes, but it looks like there isn't a whole lot of room on those signs to spell out the entire word. In the shields (that's another thing, my photo has actual shields) in my photo, there's more than enough room for it to be spelled out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 09, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
This speed limit sign is in a neighborhood right by Lake Guntersville:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2928/14592154456_53bbfb72f4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oesB8W)
Unique Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oesB8W) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 09, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
....

So these would make you say "Expee"?

....

Heh. When my brother, our cousins, and I were kids, we'd ride with our grandfather from Bay Ridge to Breezy Point each day during the summer and our grandfather got us started reading the road signs on the Belt Parkway exactly as they appeared–hence, "Ocean Pickway," "Coney Is Av," "K-napp St," "Shell Rid," etc. We then started doing that Every. Single. Time we were on the Belt Parkway for the next several years (all of us screaming them out in unison). I'm sure our parents wanted to kill us and our grandfather!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on July 09, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Quote from: Brandon on July 09, 2014, 04:23:42 PM

So these would make you say "Expee"?

for the longest time - before I lived there - I had no idea what a very common SoCal abbreviation meant.  I pronounced it the same as "sin".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzab1Foy.png&hash=f98c08ad98751b06ebadaf1a388d03b0fc703fda)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: route56 on July 10, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzab1Foy.png&hash=f98c08ad98751b06ebadaf1a388d03b0fc703fda)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

Actually, that sounds like a place where the flashing red arrow would be appropriate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2014, 07:49:19 PM
Quote from: route56 on July 10, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

Actually, that sounds like a place where the flashing red arrow would be appropriate.

Such heresy would never be committed in Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mefailenglish on July 12, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg36%2Fjcm9572%2FIMG_2296_zpsf390c99b.jpg&hash=8a1b1a1654f7efd3962b649892fd260ed5fce88a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 13, 2014, 03:34:07 AM
Quote from: mefailenglish on July 12, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2od8e0A.jpg&hash=d68e85535cde82a0c9c91bbb765e66fa25f80f56)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on July 13, 2014, 11:55:30 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 09, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
for the longest time - before I lived there - I had no idea what a very common SoCal abbreviation meant.  I pronounced it the same as "sin".

That would be Cyn, for Canyon. And it took me about six months to realize it wasn't some geographic term that I had just never heard of before. Thought it was something like a glen, to be honest.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 14, 2014, 09:12:29 AM
Quote from: mefailenglish on July 12, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

Especially at 65 mph on Southern Boulevard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on July 14, 2014, 12:55:48 PM
Somervell County (Texas) Road 2012 has a short stretch going down a slope on a submaturely dissected plateau.  I'm a flatlander, but I've been up and down a few hills.  This incline isn't very long, but I call it "Oh Shit Hill," which isn't in my everyday vocabulary.  I don't know how steep it is, but going down is scary.  On the way up, there's a sign, W7-1, showing a truck going down an incline, turned 90 degrees to show the truck climbing an extremely steep hill.  I don't have a photo, but I rotated an image I found online.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patternsandprinciples.com%2Fotherfiles%2Frs%2Fw7-1n.jpg&hash=4f54d3cb54e6fd5f8dd9b6a1895d226e62b5ec13)
That sign's about right for the way that hill feels.

Edit: Maybe that's why they numbered it 2012, with the end-of-the world beliefs.  The way down feels like driving off the end of the earth, especially around the blind curve.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 18, 2014, 02:01:24 AM
One last Seatac Airport sign...warning sign with the lane guides??

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk0ighyr.jpg&hash=5698b2b2a6d09a3fc70dfbe23b2d3e7c0f647afa)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on July 19, 2014, 01:45:49 AM
Quote from: mefailenglish on July 12, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
If you can read "Willard Smith Rd" you are a better person than I.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg36%2Fjcm9572%2FIMG_2296_zpsf390c99b.jpg&hash=8a1b1a1654f7efd3962b649892fd260ed5fce88a)
Is that road named after the actor Will Smith? (whose full name is Willard)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 22, 2014, 09:08:56 PM
As seen at a 5 point intersection:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14721570855_ba5b58eef9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oqTU8a)
Holmes Avenue (https://flic.kr/p/oqTU8a) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

Here's the same sign from the other side:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.738783,-86.576901&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.738783,-86.576901&panoid=RmtRTviuKBc3VyEpW-L6PA&cbp=12,193.48,,2,-18.88
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on July 22, 2014, 10:05:51 PM
I found this interesting sign in Spring TX. The signals are all horizontal here (which is itself pretty scary for a Marylander), and then I came across this sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1101.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg431%2Fwisvishr0%2FScreenShot2014-07-22at112026AM.png&hash=a94a7333a63f14a5afa8685beb6c371272470d98)

The standard in Texas is (usually) the same in the rest of the country: warning signs for traffic lights are vertical. It seems that this specific person who put up this sign hasn't been out of the state, and decided to change the standard to how he thought it was supposed to be. Growing up in Texas, you'd think all traffic signals were horizontal. I guess there is no reason for it to be vertical there, but according to the Texas MUTCD, that's the only way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 24, 2014, 02:31:50 PM
It really makes more sense for the sign to match the actual signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on July 24, 2014, 07:49:44 PM
At the intersection of Manassas Drive and Euclid Avenue in Manassas Park, the turning lane directions are on a mast arm prior to the actual signals, which are actually on a spanwire (Funny, huh?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2014, 05:26:09 PM
How common is it for BGSs to display "Either Lane"? Perhaps I've just never noticed it before. It seems to me like a lazy replacement for two arrows.

Valley Mall Blvd @ I-82, Yakima, WA (http://goo.gl/SjT19I)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9gijvZN.png&hash=589078663a877e179c73705a07702f98a2d10f05)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on July 25, 2014, 09:47:40 PM
I've seen "BOTH LANES" in a lot of places
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on July 26, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
"Either Lane" seems a lot more casual than "Both Lanes"

It's like "Oh, you can pick either lane, it doesn't bother me. Go ahead and do what you want."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mergingtraffic on July 26, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Unique....for NY.  These signs are on the LaGuardia Service Road by the Grand Central Pkwy.  NY's BGSs usually have rounded corners, but these are squared corners with curved borderline.  Plus non-reflectivity and buttons.


(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2929/14742658034_fe86171e76.jpg)


(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/14741845231_144cd2d25f.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SSOWorld on July 26, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2933/14772555433_082291fc99_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ovpd4B)

Pay careful attention to the washer at the top of the shield...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 28, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
While these BGS' were recently replaced; the previous BGS on the right showed a quasi-CalTrans approach to exit-tab signage (http://goo.gl/maps/L4lsj) for most of its life.  The BGS predated PennDOT's conversion to mile-marker based exits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on July 30, 2014, 05:13:04 PM
Just saw this while I was walking down Connecticut Avenue in Van Ness, Washington DC: it's a private sign. The guy who designed it must have either been colorblind or an optimist.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F31%2Fa6a2e7a9.jpg&hash=6c14d12cdd7b4ead0b0e12fdacdb53015beb38d7)

Yes it's green, not red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 31, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Here's an odd one in southern Morgan County, AL:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/14611529269_a23ac0d594.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ogaUAr)
Curve Ahead Sign (https://flic.kr/p/ogaUAr) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 05, 2014, 09:42:13 PM
This one was actually a bit creepy. It looks photoshopped but I can assure you it's not. It's actually behind the building where I work. It may have been there a day; it may have been there several months. I may have walked right by it many times. It's on a faded 'No Parking Any Time' sign. Whoever did it definitely took their time.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F54C7C405-4F29-4633-ABD1-2B813CEC3BB4.jpg&hash=931a18f3fbdf9513f270760889e3009b59aef312) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/54C7C405-4F29-4633-ABD1-2B813CEC3BB4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 06, 2014, 01:20:12 AM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2Fcomic-sans.jpg&hash=421f390e464d5c3f0267a73d0f3e7c5570545379)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 01:46:10 AM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 06, 2014, 01:20:12 AM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2Fcomic-sans.jpg&hash=421f390e464d5c3f0267a73d0f3e7c5570545379)

Leave it to Region 5 to make a sign that induces vomiting. That might be worse than the relatively new signs on NY 198 and NY 400.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 06, 2014, 03:36:39 AM
A rather interesting roundabout diagram from Sidney, BC (photo courtesy of wjis21 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/wjis21/6098334138/) of Flickr):

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6210/6098334138_b6f97e134e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 06, 2014, 05:47:38 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 06, 2014, 01:20:12 AM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2Fcomic-sans.jpg&hash=421f390e464d5c3f0267a73d0f3e7c5570545379)

Is there supposed to be some sort of significance to that? If so, it's lost on me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 06, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
joë' hesta' is the current Great Leader of Nimbya.  The sign is alerting motorists to beware of his presence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on August 06, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Just beyond VA 28 on US 50, there is a sign that reads "Lane End Merge Right". I can't find pictures of it, but I noticed it today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 06, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Quote from: MillTheRoadgeek on August 06, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Just beyond VA 28 on US 50, there is a sign that reads "Lane Ends Merge Right". I can't find pictures of it, but I noticed it today.
Like this in WI: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.354048,-89.124371,3a,75y,251.02h,94.16t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv7Tbl0Q3lKWn9cZeaDLuxw!2e0

Blurry though and a closer shot blurs out the first 2 lines.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 06, 2014, 05:47:38 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 06, 2014, 01:20:12 AM
I've often read some joking about that someday a DOT somewhere is going to use Comic Sans on their signs.

Well here you go, courtesy of NYSDOT Region 5.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2Fcomic-sans.jpg&hash=421f390e464d5c3f0267a73d0f3e7c5570545379)

Is there supposed to be some sort of significance to that? If so, it's lost on me.

On the section of NY 17 that runs through the reservation, Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English. There's also a sign calling the Allegheny River "Ohiyo".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
I now present this LGS, courtesy of GSV and Lancaster, NY, located at the exit of a small industrial park. Sign attempts to direct people south on Central Avenue to US 20. Instead, we get a NJDOT-style shield and an arrow pointing to US 20 south.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.913067,-78.670091,3a,75y,293.96h,79.21t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjXg-ckdz42hRBeDo0CQXjA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 07, 2014, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
On the section of NY 17 that runs through the reservation, Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English. There's also a sign calling the Allegheny River "Ohiyo".

I remember seeing that sign, as well as others, when I drove that section of I-86 a few years ago, but did not know this was one of those signs, as I don't remember the Seneca language signs being in Comic Sans back then. Guess I'll have to  go dig through my pictures for a refresher.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 07, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 07, 2014, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:49:11 PM
On the section of NY 17 that runs through the reservation, Region 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English. There's also a sign calling the Allegheny River "Ohiyo".

I remember seeing that sign, as well as others, when I drove that section of I-86 a few years ago, but did not know this was one of those signs, as I don't remember the Seneca language signs being in Comic Sans back then. Guess I'll have to  go dig through my pictures for a refresher.

Only the signs installed on the recent contract are in Comic Sans, otherwise they're in Helvetica/Arial.  I appreciate the fact that they're doing that on the reservation, but I don't know why they can't use the FHWA lettering or Clearview, albeit with some added accents and such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on August 07, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzab1Foy.png&hash=f98c08ad98751b06ebadaf1a388d03b0fc703fda)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

Here's a silly one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.656216,-122.317911,3a,15.2y,166.14h,88.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCGcBqJt9RAAZWmTmrC5bog!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 06, 2014, 10:49:11 PMRegion 5 decided to put location names in the native language in addition to English.

I refuse to believe that Comic Sans is anything but a white people affectation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzab1Foy.png&hash=f98c08ad98751b06ebadaf1a388d03b0fc703fda)

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on August 08, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
Quote from: Big John on August 06, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Quote from: MillTheRoadgeek on August 06, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Just beyond VA 28 on US 50, there is a sign that reads "Lane Ends Merge Right". I can't find pictures of it, but I noticed it today.
Like this in WI: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.354048,-89.124371,3a,75y,251.02h,94.16t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sv7Tbl0Q3lKWn9cZeaDLuxw!2e0

Blurry though and a closer shot blurs out the first 2 lines.

I'm confused, does the one you posted have some kind of error? This is a fairly common sign in Massachusetts. Assuming its an old standard.

Here is one that reads "Lane Ends Merge Left"

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.226304,-71.031832,3a,15y,11.37h,85.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4baw3RHpHli99LQC5i9Ykg!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 08, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.

The signal has a protected phase, so I'm not sure how you could work in a solid green ball, other than by using a signal like (this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.249297,-122.437703,3a,15y,155.81h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1savIZKXt32_odVey1cB1Dag!2e0)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: jake on August 08, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.

The signal has a protected phase, so I'm not sure how you could work in a solid green ball, other than by using a signal like (this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.249297,-122.437703,3a,15y,155.81h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1savIZKXt32_odVey1cB1Dag!2e0)).

Or just use a doghouse signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 08, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Here's something that isn't a sign but in fact an interesting intersection: a traffic circle . . . in the Pacific Northwest?

It's in downtown Longview, WA, about 2 hours south of Seattle. It is legally referred to as R A Long Square. The circle hasn't always been painted with "modern" roundabout lines, and the second photo illustrates the former design. Honestly, the only thing they changed was the RIRO exit-only design into a yield-point entry with shark teeth. Not as obvious are new crosswalks that are the "hump" type. This angered cyclists who participate in the annual Tour-de-Cowlitz County (or whatever it's called) who said it made their life difficult or something.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGD7CcZt.png&hash=e58df46465cd729d4fd1f915b09eff396b8bddb6)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcORsHji.png&hash=7c08604b1632df7ab47c021180b2e2c539f303fd)



Quote from: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
Quote from: jake on August 08, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 07, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: jake on July 10, 2014, 06:57:54 PM
Saw this yesterday in Seattle. Must be like an early version of an FYA:

Everything you see has since been replaced by a new set of signs and signals, but the "stop on red" concept still continues. Why not just use an FYA like the rest of the country?

why use a FYA at all?  why make the driver stop?  "you may turn left on solid green ball after yielding to oncoming traffic" is probably even in the Vienna Convention; that's how universal it is.

The signal has a protected phase, so I'm not sure how you could work in a solid green ball, other than by using a signal like (this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.249297,-122.437703,3a,15y,155.81h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1savIZKXt32_odVey1cB1Dag!2e0)).

Or just use a doghouse signal.

Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 08, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: jake on August 08, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
I sure hope not, IMO they're the best kind of signal because turning traffic gets the protected phase but never has a red when straight traffic has a green.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 08, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on August 08, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
I'm confused, does the one you posted have some kind of error? This is a fairly common sign in Massachusetts. Assuming its an old standard.

"Lane Ends Merge Left (Right)" is an MUTCD standard sign (W9-2).  Unless there's a spelling error (can't tell due to Google Street View's capitulation to the tinhat brigade privacy algorithims), I don't see a problem here (if you scroll further, you do see that the right lane drops).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 08, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on August 08, 2014, 02:09:32 AM
I'm confused, does the one you posted have some kind of error? This is a fairly common sign in Massachusetts. Assuming its an old standard.

"Lane Ends Merge Left (Right)" is an MUTCD standard sign (W9-2).  Unless there's a spelling error (can't tell due to Google Street View's capitulation to the tinhat brigade privacy algorithims), I don't see a problem here (if you scroll further, you do see that the right lane drops).

It's certainly standard, but several states do explicitly prohibit it in their state supplements/MUTCDs, New York being one example. Confused me when I was a young roadgeek and moved from the Albany area to central Ohio. Almost as strange as the non-MUTCD compliant slanted arrows they use to show option lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 08, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: jake on August 08, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
I sure hope not, IMO they're the best kind of signal because turning traffic gets the protected phase but never has a red when straight traffic has a green.

Nothing in the MUTCD to suggest otherwise. Section 4D-20 provides the standard and, a couple pages earlier, the shared signal face (doghouse) is listed first in the list of signal options for a permissive/protected turn movement. States that don't use the FYA or flashing red extensively continue to install them en masse. Everyone knows what the indications on a doghouse mean and it's not that hard for the average driver to tell the difference between protected and permissive movements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 09, 2014, 11:31:23 AM
Quote from: cl94 on August 08, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 08, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: jake on August 08, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Isn't the use of doghouse signal-heads more or less discouraged nowadays?
I sure hope not, IMO they're the best kind of signal because turning traffic gets the protected phase but never has a red when straight traffic has a green.

Nothing in the MUTCD to suggest otherwise. Section 4D-20 provides the standard and, a couple pages earlier, the shared signal face (doghouse) is listed first in the list of signal options for a permissive/protected turn movement. States that don't use the FYA or flashing red extensively continue to install them en masse. Everyone knows what the indications on a doghouse mean and it's not that hard for the average driver to tell the difference between protected and permissive movements.

The difference is the application of whether the doghouse is a shared signal face or an exclusive signal face solely for the left turn lane. Doghouses can still be installed where they control left and through movements (although the circular indications on a doghouse now must always match what is displayed on the adjacent through signals). A doghouse can no longer be used for Dallas Phasing.

Although it may not be explicitly stated as a standard, guidance in 4D-13 p09 states that new or reconstructed signals should not have circular green displays mounted above or in the median where exclusive left turn lanes are provided. Indeed, all the figures under this section support this concept, with permitted phasing (doghouse or standard) signals being shown mounted over the lane lines between left turn and thru lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 10, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
Saw THESE on a roadtrip through Southwest Washington the other day. There are quite a few of them.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMJ7oNWR.jpg&hash=17f1a3b498c37cfdfde58426e6dd82f8eed7e0fa)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on August 10, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
Washington is a big fan of unisigns, and the bottom half of that sign resembles something you'd find elsewhere in the state as a reassurance marker (though the side margins are a bit wide).

But when they use a unisign for an interstate, it usually looks like a mini-BGS (green background, white direction text, and the shield).  As far as I know, the blow banner for the unisign is unique to this area, with extra points for the concurrency of course.

(Side note: this is the same region that tends to use "normal" exit tabs, as opposed to the rest of the state.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on August 11, 2014, 12:39:26 PM

I for one like, WSDOT's attempt at unified signs.  They prevent bent direction blades, they are likely easier to install and maintain, and ever since they dropped the SGS (Small Green Sign) format, they actually look correct to what we would be expecting, color wise.

Quote from: jake on August 10, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
Saw THESE on a roadtrip through Southwest Washington the other day. There are quite a few of them.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMJ7oNWR.jpg&hash=17f1a3b498c37cfdfde58426e6dd82f8eed7e0fa)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Arkansastravelguy on August 11, 2014, 12:53:38 PM
Virginia uses unisigns in a few places. I much rather have the cutouts
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on August 11, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 11, 2014, 12:39:26 PM

I for one like, WSDOT's attempt at unified signs.  They prevent bent direction blades, they are likely easier to install and maintain, and ever since they dropped the SGS (Small Green Sign) format, they actually look correct to what we would be expecting, color wise.

They dropped the SGS format??  I had associated green with the Interstates and black and white with state/US routes, but I suppose now that I think about it, I may be incorrect and it's an old vs. new thing instead.  Please ignore most of my previous post then, I guess. :P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 13, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
For the "ugly" category:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg9gix78.png&hash=3c58adb52fe39ca189a9f5317a097033247e257e)
James River Freeway in Springfield, MO. Who thought up that color scheme for the borders???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on August 13, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
Uh, local contractors?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 13, 2014, 06:52:20 PM
That wasn't the contractor. That design smacks of chamber of commerce.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 13, 2014, 06:54:06 PM
This is basically all chambers of commerce across the nation, in regards to the MUTCD:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrnwF0.gif&hash=d891996b68389088289c33a6b61aa64568c4afb5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 13, 2014, 07:26:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 13, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
For the "ugly" category:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg9gix78.png&hash=3c58adb52fe39ca189a9f5317a097033247e257e)
James River Freeway in Springfield, MO. Who thought up that color scheme for the borders???

Don't really mind it, actually. If it's off some minor road or within a maze of parking lots...although it smacks of bidding for favoritism.

At least it adheres to some sort of design philosophy, unlike Walt Disney World's unreadable purple and red with white Futura.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 14, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF2ShxgC.jpg&hash=2ab54f1857d57042743e5dbd169bb597bd841bc1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 14, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: jake on August 14, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF2ShxgC.jpg&hash=2ab54f1857d57042743e5dbd169bb597bd841bc1)

Why are the colors reversed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 14, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 13, 2014, 07:26:47 PM
Don't really mind it, actually. If it's off some minor road or within a maze of parking lots...although it smacks of bidding for favoritism.

At least it adheres to some sort of design philosophy, unlike Walt Disney World's unreadable purple and red with white Futura.

It's not, though. It's off a major freeway, and not even a local or county one–at this point, I believe it's US-60/160/MO-13.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 14, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: jake on August 14, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF2ShxgC.jpg&hash=2ab54f1857d57042743e5dbd169bb597bd841bc1)

Why are the colors reversed?

Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 14, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

California and Nevada use white on green "Freeway Entrance" signs. I've never seen different wording. However, the freeway entrance sign, if used, is always accompanied below by route shields (for Nevada, the only place I know of a freeway not having freeway entrance signs is Summerlin Parkway in Las Vegas--it is not a numbered highway).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 14, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

California and Nevada use white on green "Freeway Entrance" signs. I've never seen different wording. However, the freeway entrance sign, if used, is always accompanied below by route shields (for Nevada, the only place I know of a freeway not having freeway entrance signs is Summerlin Parkway in Las Vegas--it is not a numbered highway).

My apologies. Could have sworn that I saw a pic showing I-5 with a white on blue. Everything about that state confuses me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 14, 2014, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 14, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: jake on August 14, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF2ShxgC.jpg&hash=2ab54f1857d57042743e5dbd169bb597bd841bc1)

Why are the colors reversed?

Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

You're missing it. The trees are purple. The traffic cone is blue. The image has the reversed colors, not the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2014, 01:06:46 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 14, 2014, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 14, 2014, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 14, 2014, 10:19:32 AM
Quote from: jake on August 14, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Still unsure as to the purpose of these, but WSDOT installed blue "Freeway Entrance" signs along WA-520 between the 405 and the bridge:

Why are the colors reversed?

Most "entrance"/ramp signs I've seen use that color scheme, especially in Ohio. NY (Region 10) and CA use an entrance banner that corresponds to the type of route being entered. Blue on white isn't particularly readable.

You're missing it. The trees are purple. The traffic cone is blue. The image has the reversed colors, not the signs.

Here, I'll zoom in on the problem:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSlpBBhv.jpg&hash=a3b24925a82f7389c759f1ef5c1862c9f6ebc944)

After inspecting the WSDOT Sign Fabrication Manual (available here (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/publications/manuals/fulltext/M55-05/Signfab.pdf)), the "Freeway Entrance" sign (E12-201) has the colors listed as "legend - white (refl)" and "background - green (refl)". I assume these signs will be tossed on final inspection, if there is even a thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on August 15, 2014, 01:48:57 AM
Even though this is perceived to be a pile of fail because of the color, I'd actually like that better than green because it closely identifies with the interstate than green does. That's just me thinking outside of the MUTCD's tightening box.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2014, 03:06:17 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on August 15, 2014, 01:48:57 AM
Even though this is perceived to be a pile of fail because of the color, I'd actually like that better than green because it closely identifies with the interstate than green does. That's just me thinking outside of the MUTCD's tightening box.

I like your thinking, but this sign is used for a state route, not an interstate (not that you were directly implying that it was).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 16, 2014, 01:11:36 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on August 15, 2014, 01:48:57 AM
Even though this is perceived to be a pile of fail because of the color, I'd actually like that better than green because it closely identifies with the interstate than green does. That's just me thinking outside of the MUTCD's tightening box.
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The sign is not meant to align to a specific route type, but is more for guidance of the motorist--hence the green color. "Freeway entrance" is not a motorist service (like food or gas), nor a driver information sign (like highway radio or travel times) that would normally be on blue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on August 17, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
Plainfield, IL.  Eastbound on IL-126.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4282_zpsfbd0b843.jpg&hash=f6f6b53e87494d8bb5372b1fc97ab65110c24516) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4282_zpsfbd0b843.jpg.html)

Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 18, 2014, 03:22:56 PM
Pardon the grainy GSV, but I saw this unique sign (http://goo.gl/maps/pbG1K) at the intersection of Podunk & Shore Roads in East Brookfield, MA.

Interesting style house number/address shield (http://goo.gl/maps/kjjlh) along Franklin St. (MA 181) in Bondsville, MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on August 18, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
The sign is backlit when active

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F14%2F08%2F18%2F1d8279a83cb8673624ca36445b11b9c6.jpg&hash=871607dba82b3e4f001a781fc7f83a3582c93232)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on August 29, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Different, Manteno, Illinois:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg&hash=0a60df10e28b577fcde3e5c810928c952915073d) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4547_zps7acf1a56.jpg&hash=4eb5c0c1ea90b18d9d7c301900eb3c88379cc7c8) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4547_zps7acf1a56.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4550_zpsa9fe8f72.jpg&hash=ba3fdf71fa07a08f47cfaacd6265cab0f6237a4c) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4550_zpsa9fe8f72.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 29, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 29, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Different, Manteno, Illinois:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg&hash=0a60df10e28b577fcde3e5c810928c952915073d) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg.html)

Is "C.H. 9" supposed to be County Highway 9, or...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on August 29, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 29, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 29, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Different, Manteno, Illinois:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg&hash=0a60df10e28b577fcde3e5c810928c952915073d) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4546_zps2a7069cc.jpg.html)

Is "C.H. 9" supposed to be County Highway 9, or...?

Probably, but I don't see why they don't just put a county highway shield on the sign  :confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 29, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
"Hey Johnny...we need a Route 611 South sign made up."

"Whatever you say boss!"

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F91A4EF60-CDEB-4077-814E-8A7ABF87B6E5.jpg&hash=57e80520eb660f4e916f8040c3b763d8c9f9e5c1) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/91A4EF60-CDEB-4077-814E-8A7ABF87B6E5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 02, 2014, 10:51:39 PM
Here's one in Huntsville:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5588/14937511277_d5bd0b678b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKYDFT)
Custom One Way Sign? (https://flic.kr/p/oKYDFT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I bet a lot of y'all don't see this on a regular basis:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14937518228_ab6da19ca9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ)
Welcome To Alabama (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

The size of the numbers on this speed limit sign seems a bit small:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/15124089945_3cbfd81c16.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p3sV2t)
Weird Speed Limit 35 Sign (https://flic.kr/p/p3sV2t) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sammi on September 02, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
Similar to the last sign, there's a speed limit sign on eastbound Highway 7 (York RR 7, Old ON 7) at Helen St in Vaughan that's too big but with the right sized numbers, resulting in a similar amount of space around the '60'. If Street View had an updated image, I'd post it here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on September 03, 2014, 12:10:25 AM
Continuing the bad speed limit signs, this was (unfortunately) the standard (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.330315,-73.699388,3a,52.9y,149.08h,77.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snSaG4tnHCzO1t9B8A_vzog!2e0) on town-maintained roads in Queensbury, NY until 10-15 years ago. Until around then, the town also used tiny, nonreflective street name blades (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.358671,-73.657741,3a,87.9y,250.76h,87.38t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sp2jqwhgkxnt7MtCXssB7CA!2e0) that carried over to county roads. Those became larger and more legible when they went retroreflective. Somewhat related, all signs in the second link except for the name blades are county installs showing how Warren County likes using Z-bars.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: relaxok on September 03, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbh.polpo.org%2Fdrawbridgesign.png&hash=d5dc691638f31ead1b8c491601535fde9b68ce21)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 03, 2014, 05:47:18 AM
Quote from: relaxok on September 03, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbh.polpo.org%2Fdrawbridgesign.png&hash=d5dc691638f31ead1b8c491601535fde9b68ce21)

In the background, there appears to be a red/white gate arm. To me, that legitimizes the use of these rail signals (and really, the traffic concept is a similar application here). MUTCD allows traffic signals and/or gates/flashers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 03, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 02, 2014, 10:51:39 PM
I bet a lot of y'all don't see this on a regular basis:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3838/14937518228_ab6da19ca9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ)
Welcome To Alabama (https://flic.kr/p/oKYFKJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I've seen a few of these around Huntsville (and obviously, a few other places around the country):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/33955477898_0e6f4fa1d7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TJwGA7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 03, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
I've seen a different design (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.120654,-77.590822,3a,75y,196.57h,66.32t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svn6v3bHAEsRhoGziZ61eLQ!2e0) near where I grew up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fungus on September 04, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
"Caution - Limited Sight" in Santa Cruz, CA (hat tip to Richard Masoner - https://twitter.com/cyclelicious/status/498925381886291968)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buyp41ICcAA1kkR.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 04, 2014, 02:26:49 PM
Quote from: fungus on September 04, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
"Caution - Limited Sight" in Santa Cruz, CA (hat tip to Richard Masoner - https://twitter.com/cyclelicious/status/498925381886291968)

Great sign. Halfway to fully symbolic, which is my own personal goal for warning signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 04, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
You can find signs like this on the Dulles Greenway in Virginia. A local woman spent $3,000 to have four of them manufactured and posted along the highway after she was unable to rescue a turtle crossing the road from being squashed.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loudounwildlife.org%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F04%2Flarue-2.jpg&hash=fc94a3fd85d4df7dc7a89bf43c401036f0291030)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 07, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: relaxok on September 03, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.



I like this.  I agree that since railroads and drawbridges have the same effect on traffic, they should have similar traffic control.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on September 07, 2014, 02:01:17 PM

Quote from: mrsman on September 07, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: relaxok on September 03, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.



I like this.  I agree that since railroads and drawbridges have the same effect on traffic, they should have similar traffic control.

How about jets? :bigass:

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6330490782_00a62e0e88_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/six-a/6330490782/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 07, 2014, 02:22:59 PM
Quote from: 6a on September 07, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: mrsman on September 07, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
Quote from: relaxok on September 03, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
Accidentally posted this in Best Of..  has anybody ever seen another of these signs?!  Almost every draw bridge I've seen has a normal traffic light with a typical yellow warning sign saying 'DRAW BRIDGE AHEAD' in the vicinity.

I like this.  I agree that since railroads and drawbridges have the same effect on traffic, they should have similar traffic control.

How about jets? :bigass:

https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6330490782_00a62e0e88_z.jpg

That reminds me of something out of Russia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on September 07, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
Quote from: 6a on September 07, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6330490782_00a62e0e88_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/six-a/6330490782/)


That's way too verbose.  STOP WHEN FLASHING should be the most conspicuous thing, possibly in red & white, then JET BLAST AREA in black on yellow to explain why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RG407 on September 07, 2014, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 03, 2014, 05:18:59 PM

I've seen a few of these around Huntsville (and obviously, a few other places around the country):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F02%2FDuckCrossing.jpg&hash=b24211b135f91361a08c3d0d8528566e6feb86d8)

I've seen plenty with just a single duck, but never with ducklings.  It's very cute!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on September 08, 2014, 05:44:46 PM
In the same vein: this sign in Rayne, LA.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.groundspeak.com%2Fwaymarking%2Fdisplay%2F7f2ba660-1401-49f4-8ecd-12c380432bc8.jpg&hash=a7b8e182016073a7ee9fdb6edc8dfb72f1d1eb9a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 08, 2014, 06:02:58 PM
I'm getting tired of all these variations...how about a standard sign?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FII323kf.png&hash=203d0e5924d46028b7adf96e3dbd870b3a27c9fc)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 08, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F3470a030-e869-46e3-a1db-43b98659bf3f.jpg&hash=e72a0866bb8a2b20ad4233d897916b366fadbfff) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/3470a030-e869-46e3-a1db-43b98659bf3f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 08, 2014, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: jake on September 08, 2014, 06:02:58 PM
I'm getting tired of all these variations...how about a standard sign?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FII323kf.png&hash=203d0e5924d46028b7adf96e3dbd870b3a27c9fc)

And thus, the heretic has spoken.  :nod:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 10, 2014, 03:22:55 PM
Spotted this recently on US-50 east of Aldie, Virginia, near the truck scales. Sign makes eminent sense, but I've never seen one like this before. I found myself wondering whether, if you had to change direction to reach the hospital, it might make sense to put the "H" to the appropriate side of the sign to underscore where the arrowhead is, given that it's rather smaller than most arrows.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FHospitalroundabout_zpsbecf853e.png&hash=c527bb8da381038662c41068baf0edb7d4a42219)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on September 10, 2014, 06:02:35 PM
I think that needs to be just a simple through-roundabout arrow, not a full roundabout diagram with an arrowhead on one exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 10, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk9dhVYM.png&hash=eb96c35a21d94630539a1198fb0fdd2bc4959b9e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on September 10, 2014, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: jake on September 10, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

Very pretty! I love it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on September 10, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
Not sure this variant on the "freeway entrance" sign has been posted before:

WI 74 at WI 190 (https://www.google.com/maps?q=brookfield,+wi&hl=en&ll=43.082806,-88.204679&spn=0.008275,0.013797&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.726391,56.513672&hnear=Brookfield,+Waukesha+County,+Wisconsin&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=43.084546,-88.20545&panoid=N2rmLIvZhl3eOHa1qb7fCA&cbp=12,99.03,,2,2.34)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 11, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
Quote from: jake on September 10, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk9dhVYM.png&hash=eb96c35a21d94630539a1198fb0fdd2bc4959b9e)

It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on September 11, 2014, 07:04:53 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 11, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
Quote from: jake on September 10, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk9dhVYM.png&hash=eb96c35a21d94630539a1198fb0fdd2bc4959b9e)

It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.
I believe it's a UK thing to put destinations on roundabouts like that, whereas here in the US, we're used to the signmakers making it totally unambiguous. Yeah,  I wouldn't post that sign here, but it's nonetheless pretty. It would be clear in the UK.

I'm sorry but I'm in love with UK road signs in general. They're simple and consistent, two of my favorite things.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 09:02:56 AM
Quote from: jake on September 10, 2014, 09:06:23 PM
I don't mind the initial sign, but it seems awfully small...here's my alternative:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk9dhVYM.png&hash=eb96c35a21d94630539a1198fb0fdd2bc4959b9e)

I like it (but then, I like British signs), but I think the diagram ought to be bigger because the text kind of swamps it to the point where some people would focus more on the words than on their position relative to the roundabout.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 11, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.

I think how New Jersey signs it close to major hospitals is how I would go with it here:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSigns%2FStoneSpring-EmergencyCtr-Assembly-f_zps9f6eba1b.png&hash=800956648ec9fcaca32621b3a1235a427a70f71d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on September 11, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: wisvishr0 on September 11, 2014, 07:04:53 AMI believe it's a UK thing to put destinations on roundabouts like that, whereas here in the US, we're used to the signmakers making it totally unambiguous.
We in the UK would view that as totally unambiguous...

Though we'd also go an extra step and not have arrows on arms without destinations listed - eg here (https://maps.google.com/?ll=51.509958,0.070961&spn=0.0123,0.033023&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.509749,0.070958&panoid=ft6Ylbw3M0vCbKSj6E0cHw&cbp=12,167.6,,1,-1.32) where the first sign with the major destinations has two stubs, but the second sign with the local destinations has one, and an extra arrow, as that local road has a local destination.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 11, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
It still doesn't make it clear which way the hospital is...especially for those that are already concerned about a love one and trying to get to the hospital, and may easily be confused.  Just use a design with a 'thru' arrow.

I think how New Jersey signs it close to major hospitals is how I would go with it here:

[image omitted]


I think the thought process is some people might not understand a straight-ahead arrow in the context of a roundabout, although the particular roundabout referred to by the sign I posted does have the second exit essentially straight across on the far side. Funny thing is, though, the initial guide sign for the roundabout doesn't list destinations, just route numbers (Street View here: http://goo.gl/maps/fJ9DM ) and the second sign closer to the roundabout that does give destinations just uses traditional arrows instead of the roundabout diagram (Street View here: http://goo.gl/maps/W3iSU ). The second sign could have the blue hospital "H" on the same line as "Washington." I'd have to dig through my deleted videos to verify if this is still the case, but as of the time the Street View car went through there was no "H" sign anywhere at or on the roundabout (nor at either of the other two roundabouts you encounter within the next mile or two after exiting the first one).

Edited to add: I restored the deleted videos. There are still no "H" signs at or on any of the three roundabouts on US-50; we didn't go through the one further south on US-15 on this trip, but I assume it's the same. (Having an "H" sign at the correct exit with a conventional diagonal arrow seems like it'd make sense.) There are two more of the sorts of signs I posted above in advance of the second and third roundabouts, though. I'd love to see how they configured the sign on northbound US-15 approaching the fourth roundabout, but I won't be using that road anytime soon to go check.

Incidentally, the following sign appears just before the third roundabout ("third" as you head east on US-50). It kind of amuses me because the guide sign approaching that roundabout only shows two exits, one to continue on Route 50 and the other to make a left turn onto Watson Road. The exit shown on this sign doesn't appear at all on the advance guide sign. It all kind of makes me think VDOT is still figuring out roundabout signage. They'd do better just to send someone to the UK for a while, though of course some adaptations would be needed to conform to US requirements.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FChurchroundabout_zps407ef0bf.png&hash=8ca459c215ec0b36a6e48b833e615c62536519c9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 11, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
Roundabouts have their own arrow designs here:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny40%2F100_9954-s.JPG&hash=25c7e000455423deba31c1e2f649e4ce1d800607)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 01:03:09 PM
Never seen that before. Neat idea. Seems plenty clear to me. What do they do for the "straight-thru" movement?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 11, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
It varies by location (I get the feeling that NYSDOT roundabout standards are recent).  I'm afraid I don't have any pictures, and the one I know has one has outdated street view, so here's the symbol on the pavement.

Right is just a normal right arrow (mostly... see below) everywhere.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6486923,-73.8482775,3a,75y,11.64h,72.87t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sL9ozJlgIwaO-1Ljye07hZA!2e0

Also note the erroneously orange sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3091743,-73.6436849,3a,75y,327.57h,62.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1som98W52_W6pdm7KqVwbZ3g!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 11, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
I would just get rid of the roundabout. Multiple problems solved!  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on September 11, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
It's NYSDOT. Always a fish-hook (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7679323,-78.6293521,3a,75y,200.47h,78.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stnOSv3KkfR1FNdIlx4aveg!2e0).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 11, 2014, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 11, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
I would just get rid of the roundabout. Multiple problems solved!  :-D

The ones in my photos have made travel through that area (Gilbert's Corner, Virginia) substantially faster than it used to be when there was just a crossroads with a traffic light. There was the usual bleating and squawking from local residents when VDOT announced the plan to replace the light with a system of four roundabouts (two of those connect to a road providing a bypass around the roundabout located where the light used to be), but also as usual, everyone found it's much more efficient than the stupid light ever was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on September 11, 2014, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: cl94 on September 11, 2014, 04:08:09 PM
It's NYSDOT. Always a fish-hook (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7679323,-78.6293521,3a,75y,200.47h,78.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stnOSv3KkfR1FNdIlx4aveg!2e0).

I really like the fish-hook arrows in place of the traditional left/through/right arrows. I believe the MUTCD allows both for directional signage in advance of a roundabout. Using those same arrows on an arrow plaque like in the hospital signage shown above seems natural.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmXBpxyO.png&hash=9598f1a3e94fa7aa5a9a823b300dfd765feca99b)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on September 11, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmXBpxyO.png&hash=9598f1a3e94fa7aa5a9a823b300dfd765feca99b)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
The font looks like Walmart's old 2000s font, eh? Oh, and I also noticed a little cut in the bottom left corner. Wow, was this put in by a contractor that makes weird variations on signs, or is it by a major commercial who is still attempting to give a damn about MUTCD standards? :P (Remember that post from a bit ago...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 11, 2014, 10:35:53 PM
Increasingly British-Canadian, this version...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEyY4f6O.png&hash=19f9ba8c43db8814b95bf07f7209a23e53abd73e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 12, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: MillTheRoadgeek on September 11, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmXBpxyO.png&hash=9598f1a3e94fa7aa5a9a823b300dfd765feca99b)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
The font looks like Walmart's old 2000s font, eh? Oh, and I also noticed a little cut in the bottom left corner. Wow, was this put in by a contractor that makes weird variations on signs, or is it by a major commercial who is still attempting to give a damn about MUTCD standards? :P (Remember that post from a bit ago...)
It's specifically designed to emulate the original wooden signs as much as possible while still paying lip service to the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wisvishr0 on September 12, 2014, 08:41:17 PM
Quote from: jake on September 11, 2014, 10:35:53 PM
Increasingly British-Canadian, this version...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEyY4f6O.png&hash=19f9ba8c43db8814b95bf07f7209a23e53abd73e)
That's awesome.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on September 12, 2014, 10:12:01 PM

Quote from: vdeane on September 12, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: MillTheRoadgeek on September 11, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 11, 2014, 05:27:17 PM
Has anyone ever posted pictures of signs on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut here?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmXBpxyO.png&hash=9598f1a3e94fa7aa5a9a823b300dfd765feca99b)

Interesting how they designed the borders, but that font is pretty barf.
The font looks like Walmart's old 2000s font, eh? Oh, and I also noticed a little cut in the bottom left corner. Wow, was this put in by a contractor that makes weird variations on signs, or is it by a major commercial who is still attempting to give a damn about MUTCD standards? :P (Remember that post from a bit ago...)
It's specifically designed to emulate the original wooden signs as much as possible while still paying lip service to the MUTCD.

I always liked them.  The Merritt is an inherently unreasonable road on so many levels (this is not a complaint) that this scheme just follows the pattern.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 13, 2014, 07:33:35 PM
World's largest BGS for one lane?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/15043009557_e359b1bca0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK)Huge Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 13, 2014, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 13, 2014, 07:33:35 PM
World's largest BGS for one lane?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/15043009557_e359b1bca0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK)Huge Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I'd shutter to think what would happen if that big sign got blown off and crushed an oncoming car.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 13, 2014, 10:03:27 PM
Why couldn't the "TO EAST" be to the left of the US 72 marker, instead of on top? Would have saved money on the sign panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 18, 2014, 08:11:33 PM
Found this today in a Home Depot parking lot:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5579/15096070330_c2d4966318.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oZZiLE)
Small Stop Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oZZiLE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3857/15282377882_05c2d2cac8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/phsbvQ)
Small Stop Sign (https://flic.kr/p/phsbvQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on September 18, 2014, 08:41:27 PM
Looks like a painted-over or vinyl-covered license plate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg&hash=f7fac2dbed813e141dad73f1fcd7c053f4f3cd07) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg&hash=a61c74d7cdec64fe53c7e98c4031d5a7a0fff2eb) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4571_zpsd2c3a56b.jpg&hash=75d8e67296bc89e0ac35dfd7652a41e66e5b0f62) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4571_zpsd2c3a56b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2014, 08:04:30 PM
I went back to a sign(s) that I posted on this thread a while back...blue "freeway entrance" signs. As it turns out, all of the signs were inspected and approved. I still don't understand wtf is going on.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2pKuWkG.png&hash=b25b1004a0a421ee5dc1d181cef2f4614e616f34)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
I don't understand why there's all this extra space on this sign:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.719183,-86.627766&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.719183,-86.627766&panoid=EiEbQ8bR9ou3HR701HumUA&cbp=12,185.21,,2,-13.14
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 20, 2014, 12:07:31 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
I don't understand why there's all this extra space on this sign:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.719183,-86.627766&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.719183,-86.627766&panoid=EiEbQ8bR9ou3HR701HumUA&cbp=12,185.21,,2,-13.14

And on the sign to the left, the cardinal direction / shields don't align.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on September 20, 2014, 01:14:19 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 13, 2014, 07:33:35 PM
World's largest BGS for one lane?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/15043009557_e359b1bca0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK)Huge Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oVimDK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I CalTrans'ed it for you:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoIXduQn.png&hash=b416bed1f26a25223e02715b1c0878238e0197e5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg&hash=f7fac2dbed813e141dad73f1fcd7c053f4f3cd07) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4596_zpsd2644056.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg&hash=a61c74d7cdec64fe53c7e98c4031d5a7a0fff2eb) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4573_zps086bf4c1.jpg.html)


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on September 20, 2014, 01:56:54 AM
probably posted already but I don't give a fuck
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2688%2F4090793555_667282ed59_z.jpg%3Fzz%3D1&hash=2448b301594701f153f488482c7358df8b697b02) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/planesandbirds/4090793555/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on September 20, 2014, 06:22:16 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 20, 2014, 10:47:36 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 20, 2014, 12:07:31 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
I don't understand why there's all this extra space on this sign:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.719183,-86.627766&spn=0.000002,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.719183,-86.627766&panoid=EiEbQ8bR9ou3HR701HumUA&cbp=12,185.21,,2,-13.14

And on the sign to the left, the cardinal direction / shields don't align.
Apparently, when the signs were put up, they accidentally put an AL 53 shield on the Jordan Lane sign (because the sign shop didn't know where AL 53 went) and mis-signed I-565 as North/South. They later fixed the signage an removed all instances of AL 20 when it was truncated to just past I-65. They moved the AL 53 shield over to where the AL 20 shield was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 20, 2014, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 20, 2014, 06:22:16 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
They look perfectly normal to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 20, 2014, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 20, 2014, 06:22:16 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
They look perfectly normal to me.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on September 20, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 20, 2014, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 20, 2014, 06:22:16 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 20, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 19, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Chicago.


Ok, I'll bite. What's wrong with the signage?

Nothing.  This is the unique, odd, or interesting thread.
They look perfectly normal to me.

Agreed.
Yea I don't get it, please explain.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MillTheRoadgeek on September 20, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
It's too blurry on GSV (October 2008, I guess), and I can't snap a picture of this, but at the intersection of Dumfries Road (VA 234) and Independent Hill Drive, there is a contradictory "Way" hidden behind a cover-thing (I don't know what it is). Anyone have any info on this, or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 26, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
Vine Street Expressway (before turning onto 6th Street) in Philadelphia:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN8Ejvnz.png&hash=1ee598260462e66b53933a10cc9285caf8683d18)
From GMSV

Don't see many 2di shields with a 3di number in it anymore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on September 26, 2014, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 26, 2014, 11:15:39 AMDon't see many 2di shields with a 3di number in it anymore.
Here's a nicer example (https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Camden,+NJ&aq=0&oq=camde&sll=39.9425,-75.115366&sspn=0.005914,0.009409&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Camden,+Camden+County,+New+Jersey&ll=39.94409,-75.119566&spn=0.000012,0.004705&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.944093,-75.119731&panoid=a3g-4gTeMJpbc2IWBMmekA&cbp=12,117.74,,0,7.08) in Camden, NJ at the intersection of Federal St. & Broadway (CR 537 & 551 respectively).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 29, 2014, 12:01:54 AM
This may not look unique or interesting to most of you, but since I live in Canada, seeing a standard (not metric, there are some of those on the Sault Ste Marie International bridge) modern US speed limit sign is quite unique. They even added a km/h sign under it (which is not common place here). I'm guessing when people see the sign, they think mph right away.

Google Streetview shot in Selkirk Manitoba.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmvaJJF6.jpg&hash=73dff6d1b5819ee61b97a4029025609615202503)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/DGox8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on September 29, 2014, 01:10:01 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 26, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
Vine Street Expressway (before turning onto 6th Street) in Philadelphia:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN8Ejvnz.png&hash=1ee598260462e66b53933a10cc9285caf8683d18)
From GMSV

Don't see many 2di shields with a 3di number in it anymore.

The 2di shield for a 3di number isn't that unusual to me; I see ones for 405 out here fairly often.  The green unisign with white outline banner and arrow "plates" however, now that's unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on September 29, 2014, 01:12:50 AM
Quote from: MillTheRoadgeek on September 20, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
It's too blurry on GSV (October 2008, I guess), and I can't snap a picture of this, but at the intersection of Dumfries Road (VA 234) and Independent Hill Drive, there is a contradictory "Way" hidden behind a cover-thing (I don't know what it is). Anyone have any info on this, or am I wrong?

Probably a body-bagged construction sign. Get in the TARDIS if you want to check it out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BamaZeus on September 29, 2014, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 29, 2014, 12:01:54 AM
This may not look unique or interesting to most of you, but since I live in Canada, seeing a standard (not metric, there are some of those on the Sault Ste Marie International bridge) modern US speed limit sign is quite unique. They even added a km/h sign under it (which is not common place here). I'm guessing when people see the sign, they think mph right away.

Google Streetview shot in Selkirk Manitoba.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmvaJJF6.jpg&hash=73dff6d1b5819ee61b97a4029025609615202503)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/DGox8

I'm more amused with the "no golfing" sign right behind it.  It seems like a strange problem to cause a regulatory sign to be erected.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 29, 2014, 01:22:54 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2hb2xtH.png&hash=1983503c12c91bc9208484c30cee35808330a495)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 29, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
A bit of Aussie influence in Honolulu:

[Street View] (http://goo.gl/XuAmTT)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F55ZylFl.png&hash=d818e032dde61e8e3388cf64a49bb4df5bd2a546)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 29, 2014, 01:22:54 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2hb2xtH.png&hash=1983503c12c91bc9208484c30cee35808330a495)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.

Also note the lack of a margin between the legend and the border. Also, it's always weird to see "Oklahoma City" spelled out on a sign, since most of the time it's only used as a control city inside of Oklahoma, which consistently abbreviates it as "Okla. City".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on October 01, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 29, 2014, 01:22:54 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2hb2xtH.png&hash=1983503c12c91bc9208484c30cee35808330a495)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.

Also note the lack of a margin between the legend and the border. Also, it's always weird to see "Oklahoma City" spelled out on a sign, since most of the time it's only used as a control city inside of Oklahoma, which consistently abbreviates it as "Okla. City".

It's also used and spelled out in each of the surrounding states, right? I know I remember seeing Oklahoma City at the convergence of 35W and 35E when I lived in north Texas. Amarillo and Wichita probably have it too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 04, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
Found this on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Only place I've ever seen one of them.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg&hash=bae0f1b4894410563938316089df38fd425e3f97) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 04, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 04, 2014, 08:19:58 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 04, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.

Most HazMat certified people do.  I could read them, but I've been trained in it.  However, the photo came out a bit blurrier than I wanted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on October 05, 2014, 08:10:46 AM
Crossposted from the Georgia forum (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.325):

Erected last week, just beyond this fine APL sign...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCv2ZcNm.jpg&hash=43267ceab40f519817f24eb05f2a2f3928322b66)


...is this. It's located right where the optional lane actually splits, i.e. is 24+ feet wide. So, instead one one big splitting arrow as on the previous sign, there are two big non-splitting ones. It extends the logic of using two black-on-yellow arrows to indicate one compulsory and one optional exit lanes, which I already freakin' hate. And I hate this, too, though I'd be OK with it if the optional lane arrow didn't have an exit only legend:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPoT137I.jpg&hash=ff65a0ac16b525081e4ba8776ae3fe52aa26475c)


Here's the previous scheme (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7983259,-84.3960336,3a,37.5y,141.37h,90.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXSgF2Y1LRLqjFRmpx8obWA!2e0), which had issues of its own. In particular, there's the two arrows on the pullthrough when there are actually three lanes for I-75 there. It may be that the third lane wasn't indicated because it ends a half mile or so downstream.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 05, 2014, 02:28:03 PM
This traffic light on US 9 in Hudson, NY.  Unfortunately my photo is blurry due to the rain, but the sign says "left only on green ball".
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fus9%2F101_0018-s.JPG&hash=d1c19be63e43fe2ebcb10c2a934e86ecf6135ec6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on October 05, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
Uh, oh! Big problem. If that is supposed to be an RYG-arrow phase, then why is the first one pointing up and the other pointing to the right? Very Alanland-ish and this very much pays homage to the once-mighty Alanland.

All Alanland aside, the bonehead who put this up is gonna get an earful from someone because this kind of setup is asking for an accident waiting to happen at any second. You could have been one of the unfortunate people having your car wiped out in the very lane that is SUPPOSED TO BE left-on-green-arrow, not STRAIGHT THRU OR RIGHT TURN on LEFT GREEN ARROW.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 05, 2014, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on October 05, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
Uh, oh! Big problem. If that is supposed to be an RYG-arrow phase, then why is the first one pointing up and the other pointing to the right? Very Alanland-ish and this very much pays homage to the once-mighty Alanland.

All Alanland aside, the bonehead who put this up is gonna get an earful from someone because this kind of setup is asking for an accident waiting to happen at any second. You could have been one of the unfortunate people having your car wiped out in the very lane that is SUPPOSED TO BE left-on-green-arrow, not STRAIGHT THRU OR RIGHT TURN on LEFT GREEN ARROW.

The 4-section with straight and right arrows is quite common when a left turn is prohibited at an intersection and a protected right is provided with the through movement. New York has a lot of them and I've seen them elsewhere. The problem is that this is a 5 section signal with a red and straight green lit concurrently.

If this is the signal I think it is (east end of US 9/NY 23B concurrency), there is a dedicated left turn lane, so they could just install a dedicated face for the turn movement. Issue is that this section is locally-maintained.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on October 05, 2014, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 05, 2014, 02:28:03 PM
This traffic light on US 9 in Hudson, NY.  Unfortunately my photo is blurry due to the rain, but the sign says "left only on green ball".
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fus9%2F101_0018-s.JPG&hash=d1c19be63e43fe2ebcb10c2a934e86ecf6135ec6)
I see that the traffic light has been moved.  The telephone pole on the immediate left is where that traffic light was affixed for decades, and often a little cockeyed to the right.  Many, many years ago it used to be a 6-signal light with a very old white letter pedestrian signal between the green ball and the two arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 06, 2014, 12:41:54 PM
That is indeed the end of the US 9/NY 23B concurrency.  This would be one place where a FYA would be useful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 06, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
I'm a little confused here...

(On KY 34 in Mitchellsburg (Boyle County))

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2FIMG_9722_zps642c0070.jpg&hash=501838d63a38318a0fff80400284ad92d50601af) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/hbelkins/media/IMG_9722_zps642c0070.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 06, 2014, 01:11:01 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 05, 2014, 04:18:48 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on October 05, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
Uh, oh! Big problem. If that is supposed to be an RYG-arrow phase, then why is the first one pointing up and the other pointing to the right? Very Alanland-ish and this very much pays homage to the once-mighty Alanland.

All Alanland aside, the bonehead who put this up is gonna get an earful from someone because this kind of setup is asking for an accident waiting to happen at any second. You could have been one of the unfortunate people having your car wiped out in the very lane that is SUPPOSED TO BE left-on-green-arrow, not STRAIGHT THRU OR RIGHT TURN on LEFT GREEN ARROW.

The 4-section with straight and right arrows is quite common when a left turn is prohibited at an intersection and a protected right is provided with the through movement. New York has a lot of them and I've seen them elsewhere. The problem is that this is a 5 section signal with a red and straight green lit concurrently.
Many years ago there were 4-section signal heads RY^> along MA 1A/The Lynnway in Lynn, MA that would have one phase where all but the Y would be lit concurrently.  The red was lit because there was another 4-signal head (RY^<) facing ths same direction but located at the left-turn lane that would only have the R & ^ concurrently lit.  The concurrent red lit with the green ^ & > arrows meant that left turn movements from MA 1A North were stopped.  The signal in question was replaced with a more simplified arrangement in 1988-1989 when the Lynnway was overhauled.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 06, 2014, 01:24:12 PM
Passed this very ugly "Keep Right" sign on Friday morning (as the time stamp indicates) on Fair Lakes Parkway at its interchange with the Fairfax County Parkway (VA-286).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FUglykeeprightsign_zps4d801dbc.png&hash=740aae573d87390f61e87664977dabe1ad671f3c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 06, 2014, 02:06:10 PM
No idea where to put this... so...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSTATELAW_YieldMissing_zps8bd12914.jpg&hash=5512e412add2b3cda4a7117c9a4bbe4ae1e65c6a)'

I'm guessing at one point the word YIELD was visible before the 'TO'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 06, 2014, 02:10:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 06, 2014, 02:06:10 PM
No idea where to put this... so...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSTATELAW_YieldMissing_zps8bd12914.jpg&hash=5512e412add2b3cda4a7117c9a4bbe4ae1e65c6a)'

I'm guessing at one point the world YIELD was visible before the 'TO'.

Could be "GIVE FINGER"  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 09, 2014, 04:43:19 PM
Saw this today on East Lake Sammamish Parkway, about thirty miles east of Seattle...does this sign use the British Transport typeface?

According to Street View (http://goo.gl/3YghOx), the sign has been installed for over six years now.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqSIqQHJ.jpg&hash=acb24d204ad697fbd7319bbe1eac22e9f68bf5e7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: relaxok on October 09, 2014, 06:12:49 PM
Check this out -- recently went up here (Petaluma, CA) after a terrible accident at this intersection.  First I've seen..

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbh.polpo.org%2Fyellow_sign.jpg&hash=1458623a59f459235e77192daeaf526bbe013c9c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 10, 2014, 09:53:15 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 04, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
Found this on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Only place I've ever seen one of them.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg&hash=bae0f1b4894410563938316089df38fd425e3f97) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg.html)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 04, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.
That particular sign in the photo appears to located at the beginning of an exit ramp (Lehigh Valley Exit of I-476 Northbound) so one taking this exit is/should be slowing down anyway.  IIRC that there's a similar advance-notice sign posted posted prior to the exit... at least there should be one.

Personally, this is one case where an overhead gantry-mounted BGS' (for the exit & thru-traffic) and a supplemental HAZMAT route (for the exit) and NO HAZMAT (for thru-traffic) signs are more than warranted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 10, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 10, 2014, 09:53:15 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 04, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
Found this on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.  Only place I've ever seen one of them.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg&hash=bae0f1b4894410563938316089df38fd425e3f97) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4760_zps6f5b6c8e.jpg.html)
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 04, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
It's a shame the symbols are so small they're unreadable. One would have to know what the symbol looks like at high speed to understand it.
That particular sign in the photo appears to located at the beginning of an exit ramp (Lehigh Valley Exit of I-476 Northbound) so one taking this exit is/should be slowing down anyway.  IIRC that there's a similar advance-notice sign posted posted prior to the exit... at least there should be one.

Personally, this is one case where an overhead gantry-mounted BGS' (for the exit & thru-traffic) and a supplemental HAZMAT route (for the exit) and NO HAZMAT (for thru-traffic) signs are more than warranted.

Nope, it's just before the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel on the original Turnpike.  I never took I-476.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 10, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 10, 2014, 01:44:18 PMNope, it's just before the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel on the original Turnpike.  I never took I-476.
Fair enough, but there's similar signage at the fore-mentioned Northeast Extension (I-476) at the Lehigh Valley interchange (Exit 56 for US 22/I-78/PA 309) since it's the last northbound exit before the Lehigh Tunnel.

For your Allegheny Mountain Tunnel example, the location shown that photo is either I-70/76 Eastbound at Somerset (Exit 110) or I-70/76 Westbound at Bedford (Exit 146).  Note the white gore striping on the lower-left of the photo and the words on the bottom of the sign USE THIS EXIT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 10, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 10, 2014, 04:33:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 10, 2014, 01:44:18 PMNope, it's just before the Allegheny Mountain Tunnel on the original Turnpike.  I never took I-476.
Fair enough, but there's similar signage at the fore-mentioned Northeast Extension (I-476) at the Lehigh Valley interchange (Exit 56 for US 22/I-78/PA 309) since it's the last northbound exit before the Lehigh Tunnel.

For your Allegheny Mountain Tunnel example, the location shown that photo is either I-70/76 Eastbound at Somerset (Exit 110) or I-70/76 Westbound at Bedford (Exit 146).  Note the white gore striping on the lower-left of the photo and the words on the bottom of the sign USE THIS EXIT.

Westbound at Bedford.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2014, 12:33:21 AM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkbULYEP.jpg&hash=dfe7cab6a528964ae8efeb8ab972ed71515fbbd6)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/V96cb
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on October 12, 2014, 06:36:17 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2014, 12:33:21 AM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkbULYEP.jpg&hash=dfe7cab6a528964ae8efeb8ab972ed71515fbbd6)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/V96cb
It looks like a two interstate shields "melted" down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 12, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: xcellntbuy on October 12, 2014, 06:36:17 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2014, 12:33:21 AM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkbULYEP.jpg&hash=dfe7cab6a528964ae8efeb8ab972ed71515fbbd6)
It looks like a two interstate shields "melted" down.

Yes, my first impression was "what the heck happened to that sign and why is it still up?".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 12, 2014, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: jbnv on October 12, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
Quote from: xcellntbuy on October 12, 2014, 06:36:17 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2014, 12:33:21 AM
Interesting piece of art representing... downtown? I'm guessing the buildings in the design represent the city centre, along with the "city centre" on the sign.

It looks like a two interstate shields "melted" down.

Yes, my first impression was "what the heck happened to that sign and why is it still up?".

I'm normally for a little bit of local customization of signs, but not sure this was the right approach. They should come up with something else.

Then again, in Canada, there's no such thing as an interstate shield. So only us Americans (and frequent border-crossers) are going to see that (though it took me a while to see it).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 14, 2014, 10:33:41 AM
Looking though some Jacksonville photos from last year, I discovered...a Neutered, Neutered Shield:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/15517336571_b9814dc68e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 14, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
A neutered-neutered standard-width shield nonetheless. Also, it looks like the text is tilted (look at the 9 in particular) in the shield itself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
WA-303 as it nears the interchange with WA-3 (sometimes known as the Waaga Junction):

Sign-colored numerals. Not unique if compared to North America as a whole, but certainly unique in Washington:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdvcNFT3.jpg&hash=a1ec142bc0c45b5411d247a9f158b9cdf959f0a4)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 15, 2014, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: jake on October 15, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
WA-303 as it nears the interchange with WA-3 (sometimes known as the Waaga Junction):

Sign-colored numerals. Not unique if compared to North America as a whole, but certainly unique in Washington:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdvcNFT3.jpg&hash=a1ec142bc0c45b5411d247a9f158b9cdf959f0a4)

You could sort of count Vermont in there, but their route shield is BGS green, so it kinda doesn't count
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: geocachingpirate on October 18, 2014, 05:25:14 PM
I am betting this is somewhere on the forum but I found this kinda funny. Riding down the Blue Ridge Parkway today and seeing this. Here it is on Google Maps.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9A4mC18.png%3F1&hash=19889c92e4e80ceb4f325187b13b31b9ba5967d2)

Old US 421. Not NC 421.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on October 18, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 14, 2014, 10:33:41 AM
Looking though some Jacksonville photos from last year, I discovered...a Neutered, Neutered Shield:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3929/15517336571_b39feb4a33_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH)
Generic 295 (https://flic.kr/p/pDdpxH) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/people/30552029@N00/), on Flickr
Must have been stolen from North Carolina :bigass:
http://gribblenation.net/ncfutints/fut295.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: OracleUsr on October 19, 2014, 03:24:00 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 29, 2014, 01:22:54 PM
No idea where to put this, but this is pretty ugly looking...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2hb2xtH.png&hash=1983503c12c91bc9208484c30cee35808330a495)

I wonder what size the '40' is. This shields look to be 48" tall, so I'm guessing that it's around 24", which looks ugly as hell. The numbers are practically bleeding into the border.

Also note the lack of a margin between the legend and the border. Also, it's always weird to see "Oklahoma City" spelled out on a sign, since most of the time it's only used as a control city inside of Oklahoma, which consistently abbreviates it as "Okla. City".

I guess since Fort Smith is the last city in Arkansas before you reach Oklahoma, OKC is the most logical choice for control city there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 20, 2014, 12:46:42 PM
Found this thing on NY 137:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny137%2F101_0690-s.JPG&hash=46d8f0a46989d88b72df20c9b42ba42cf8d2aa97)

I also love Quebec's signs warning of the danger of a collision of two road signs.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FQC%2Fa20%2F101_0117-s.JPG&hash=a99db6d7130cbab7d3acbabb60c5d44afa103f32)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 27, 2014, 03:21:16 PM
Driving US 64-74 in Tennessee yesterday, I saw a text sign warning of vehicles crossing the centerline in curves. Then, approaching a sharp turn, I saw this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdAODTxo.jpg&hash=ad23645b243dab9c7d774f0a3acf5ddae5e86a76)

A closeup...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNVCMHap.jpg&hash=342a579fad8b58bdd5d7448ef449340e7a3a849d)

Never seen anything like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 27, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Also came across one of Alabama's vanishing "slotted signs" in Huntsville.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrX7YqMd.jpg&hash=d4741df4a32ba8c57913b42473accc57ae3eb1e0)

From a certain angle as you approach this sign, you can see through the slots. Wish the camera had recorded that phenomenon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 27, 2014, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 27, 2014, 03:21:16 PM
Driving US 64-74 in Tennessee yesterday, I saw a text sign warning of vehicles crossing the centerline in curves. Then, approaching a sharp turn, I saw this:

A closeup...

Never seen anything like this.

I thought you were going full tenso (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tenso) for a second, there (with the zoom).

Anyways, looks like the locals were also so confused, they shot the sign and the yellow bits have temporarily repaired the missing areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 27, 2014, 11:17:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 27, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Also came across one of Alabama's vanishing "slotted signs" in Huntsville.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrX7YqMd.jpg&hash=d4741df4a32ba8c57913b42473accc57ae3eb1e0)

From a certain angle as you approach this sign, you can see through the slots. Wish the camera had recorded that phenomenon.
I believe I have a picture of that sign (or another one) where you can see through the slots. I want to say we have about 6 of those here in Huntsville.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2014, 10:50:45 AM
Here are the other five slotted BGSs in Huntsville:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/15650784165_68c566c5e2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3936/15464166869_61538bcb6b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/15627096946_27ac79c5ba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15030653903_4c97c89faf.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15464918447_f4eb1d52ab.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's a "Do Not Enter" sign that was made on a rectangular blank rather than a square one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7546/15030080854_fe92da0926.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5)
Weird Do Not Enter Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's an odd "Keep Right" sign:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7495/15464263169_eb34de7990.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4)
Odd Keep Right Sign (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 28, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
^ Those style of signs were fun to emulate for some of the Alabama pages on the main site: (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=i0065sial)

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/images/i0065_end.png)
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/images/i0065sjal_sign.png)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 28, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
What's the reason for using that sort of sign? Something to do with wind?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dfnva on October 28, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 28, 2014, 10:50:45 AM
Here are the other five slotted BGSs in Huntsville:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/15650784165_68c566c5e2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pR1mSi) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3936/15464166869_61538bcb6b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyvU3H) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/15627096946_27ac79c5ba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pNUXtY) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15030653903_4c97c89faf.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/oUd2Ke) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15464918447_f4eb1d52ab.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX)
Slotted BGS (https://flic.kr/p/pyzKsX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's a "Do Not Enter" sign that was made on a rectangular blank rather than a square one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7546/15030080854_fe92da0926.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5)
Weird Do Not Enter Sign (https://flic.kr/p/oUa6p5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's an odd "Keep Right" sign:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7495/15464263169_eb34de7990.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4)
Odd Keep Right Sign (https://flic.kr/p/pywoF4) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

If I'm not mistaken, a long time ago, there was a slotted sign of this style in Maryland on I-495 Northbound at MD-190/River Rd (Exit 39). It was replaced in the late 1980s or early 1990s after road construction.  Was this a common sign style in Maryland?  That's the only one I ever remember seeing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 28, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 28, 2014, 11:55:06 AM
What's the reason for using that sort of sign? Something to do with wind?

Probably to make them more resistant to strong winds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on October 28, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
There's a gantry of these slotted sign on I-495 in DE over the Christina River.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzv5YYCq.png&hash=d074032a73ba8205fb6548b44f7ae47f4d4b2faa)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 28, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on October 28, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
There's a gantry of these slotted sign on I-495 in DE over the Christina River.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fzv5YYCq.png&hash=d074032a73ba8205fb6548b44f7ae47f4d4b2faa)

Cool...I always wondered where, if anywhere else, the "Alabama Slats" could be found.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 29, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 28, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
Cool...I always wondered where, if anywhere else, the "Alabama Slats" could be found.

I've seen those before, a long time ago, and it certainly wasn't Alabama or Delaware.  Maybe the southern California inland areas subject to high winds had them for a while?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 29, 2014, 04:15:54 PM
Prior to either the 90s or early 2000s, I-95 in Portmouth, NH used to have some slotted BGS' as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bing101 on October 29, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=936840436345504&set=a.187942584568630.50648.100000586708549&type=1&theater

Odd Sign on I-80 @ CA-12 in Fairfield, CA for the Sacramento and Fairfield Control Cities on I-80.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bing101 on October 30, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=936856613010553&set=gm.297989813741871&type=1&theater

an Outdated button copy shot in 2014 "Marine World Parkway" in CA-37 in Vallejo, CA but Marine World Parkway no longer exists today. Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 01:20:55 AM
I thought this sign was rather interesting. Why you ask? Well, it's the only Washington I-5 state-named shield that I know in Pierce County, but more interesting is that it's in unincorporated Pierce County...basically, it's in the middle of nowhere. I'm used to seeing state-named shields in Seattle, where the infrastructure is so old that it makes sense. But the location of the sign (here) in question does baffle me a bit; the freeway was built in the late 70s, and (as far as I knew, at least) state-named shields by then were already phased-out. Keeping me from putting this on the best-of thread is the fact that the BGS is really starting to fall apart, and the I-5/WA-512 shields are out of order (the sign is pointing drivers toward the WA-512 on-ramps).

The most embarrassing thing is that I drive past this sign everyday and have never noticed this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyoIWJTF.png&hash=356443b4da0b7cc69fa3ebde4e5999b574d248f8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 07, 2014, 12:42:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 01:20:55 AM
Keeping me from putting this on the best-of thread is the fact that the BGS is really starting to fall apart
I don't think that's a qualifier over there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: bing101 on October 30, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
I doubt this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 07, 2014, 01:08:25 PM
I can't decide whether this belongs here, in "Worst of," or somewhere else, so I'll put it here. I passed this I-95 shield earlier today in Springfield, Virginia. It's new within the past few weeks and there's another just like it a short distance further back at the previous intersection. I assume the covered-up sign underneath says "E-ZPass EXPRESS" for the new HO/T lanes that begin operation next month.

I'm not sure whether I like this shield because what draws my eye is the amount of empty blue space between the "95" digits and the red "Interstate" portion. Seems to me if you want to post a neutered shield, you may as well use the vacated space to employ larger numbers. Leaving the vacated space like this just calls my eye's attention to the missing state name. On the other hand, some neutered shields' numbers look almost too big, sort of like they're crammed in by using every square millimetre of available space, and that's certainly not the case here (though Virginia has plenty of that type of shield). Hence why I couldn't decide which thread was the right place.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FI-95shield_zpse6f0739b.png&hash=179a7a7a6e066ba1bcd88799de49d608b5dd21e2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 07, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 07, 2014, 01:08:25 PMI'm not sure whether I like this shield because what draws my eye is the amount of empty blue space between the "95" digits and the red "Interstate" portion. Seems to me if you want to post a neutered shield, you may as well use the vacated space to employ larger numbers. Leaving the vacated space like this just calls my eye's attention to the missing state name. On the other hand, some neutered shields' numbers look almost too big, sort of like they're crammed in by using every square millimetre of available space, and that's certainly not the case here (though Virginia has plenty of that type of shield). Hence why I couldn't decide which thread was the right place.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FI-95shield_zpse6f0739b.png&hash=179a7a7a6e066ba1bcd88799de49d608b5dd21e2)
That seems to be a recurring practice as of late; especially w/2di shields.  I've seen similar examples of new I-95 shields in PA & MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bing101 on November 07, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: bing101 on October 30, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
I doubt this.

http://patch.com/california/dixon/highway-named-for-slain-vallejo-officer-capoot

Here it is
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: bing101 on November 07, 2014, 01:34:48 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 12:59:36 PM
Quote from: bing101 on October 30, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Its been renamed CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway.
I doubt this.

http://patch.com/california/dixon/highway-named-for-slain-vallejo-officer-capoot

Here it is

QuoteThe signs designate that section of road as Vallejo Police Officer James Capoot Memorial Highway.

Leaving aside the question of who the fuck uses these ceremonial names, this is not "CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The High Plains Traveler on November 07, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: bing101 on October 29, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=936840436345504&set=a.187942584568630.50648.100000586708549&type=1&theater

Odd Sign on I-80 @ CA-12 in Fairfield, CA for the Sacramento and Fairfield Control Cities on I-80.
Just through there this fall, visiting my wife's cousin who lives in Suisun City. I think the reason for the "Fairfield" entry on the pull-through sign is to alert traffic that EB CA-12 doesn't go to Fairfield; rather you have to exit ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 07, 2014, 03:24:05 PM
Leaving aside the question of who the fuck uses these ceremonial names, this is not "CA-37 Parkway James Capoot Highway".

In my attempt to find the sign, searching google for "Parkway James Capoot Highway" returned zero results. "James Capoot Highway" also returned zero results.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: doorknob60 on November 08, 2014, 04:16:17 AM
I posted this in the erroneous thread already, but I thought it was odd enough to post here.

I'm not sure who's responsible for this (Lane County?), but this is their attempt at an OR-58 shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfOcV1Xy.png&hash=c3fc4d08f7b5cdcc1c5e2b9576d4f1e0f9cf488a)

Points for effort I guess. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before, except old state named US shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 08, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2FTo_KY_38_zpse81f4850.jpg&hash=6d3e3b6a7f95f27e95808fa0f6b62fe1df6a8daf) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/hbelkins/media/To_KY_38_zpse81f4850.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on November 08, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 01:20:55 AMWell, it's the only Washington I-5 state-named shield that I know in Pierce County...

Off the top of my head, I can't prove you wrong.  But I assure you I'm taking that as a challenge.

Quote from: jakeroot on November 07, 2014, 01:20:55 AM...and the I-5/WA-512 shields are out of order (the sign is pointing drivers toward the WA-512 on-ramps).

Huge peeve of mine, and I think every ramp between Steele Street and Puyallup has the shields in that order.  Even worse though is at the western terminus (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1631449,-122.4837035,3a,15y,33.89h,88.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sT2tQR0s4D-aqTN2gOPXaDQ!2e0)... Not only is there no mention of 512 at all, but look at the control cities.  An I-5 South city, a 512 East city... but no I-5 North city.  (Especially egregious given that it's pointing north on South Tacoma Way.  I'd imagine more traffic passing this sign is headed towards Tacoma/Seattle than Olympia, since southbound traffic would have the option of heading south and getting on I-5 at Bridgeport rather than backtracking north and getting on here.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 10, 2014, 10:33:47 AM
Saw this retro-style, cut-corner LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/HdLdM) along MA 67 in New Braintree this past weekend.  Pardon the grainy GSV image.

I say retro because the white/grey reflectorized lettering is the dead give-away that this LGS does not date back to 1973-74... the last time the MassDPW made cut-corner D6 LGS panels.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 10, 2014, 10:33:47 AM
Saw this retro-style, cut-corner LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/HdLdM) along MA 67 in New Braintree this past weekend.  Pardon the grainy GSV image.

Much better photo:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fma%2Fma_67%2Fsbarre.jpg&hash=bb4ee7dda772d71fe442bf7df85ac035d2ccce66)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_67/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 10, 2014, 11:39:58 AM
Quote from: NE2 on November 10, 2014, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 10, 2014, 10:33:47 AM
Saw this retro-style, cut-corner LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/HdLdM) along MA 67 in New Braintree this past weekend.  Pardon the grainy GSV image.

Much better photo:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fma%2Fma_67%2Fsbarre.jpg&hash=bb4ee7dda772d71fe442bf7df85ac035d2ccce66)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_67/
Thanks for sharing.  At least the GSV and my observation this past weekend proves that this LGS is still there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FybLIHWQ.jpg&hash=cf437c1016ba47b82cc3dc67724a051447ee0a1d) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 11, 2014, 10:42:32 PM

Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

I've seen it when the sign has just a single directional arrow, but not both like here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 12, 2014, 03:41:20 AM
That used to be fairly common on shared lane-use arrow signs, at least around Las Vegas, NV--but I haven't in years.

It may have been an old standard or option in the MUTCD...I'd have to look...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NYhwyfan on November 12, 2014, 04:33:35 PM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FybLIHWQ.jpg&hash=cf437c1016ba47b82cc3dc67724a051447ee0a1d) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)

Why even bother with 'OK'
Just install a plain Left / Straight Optional Lane sign
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 12, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FybLIHWQ.jpg&hash=cf437c1016ba47b82cc3dc67724a051447ee0a1d) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)

That's almost a candidate for this thread:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11212.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on November 12, 2014, 08:52:19 PM
Quote from: roadfro on November 12, 2014, 03:41:20 AM
That used to be fairly common on shared lane-use arrow signs, at least around Las Vegas, NV--but I haven't in years.

It may have been an old standard or option in the MUTCD...I'd have to look...

I'm fairly certain that "OK" is an option in the MUTCD.  Judging by the confusion it's causing though it doesn't take much to assume that it's lightly used.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on November 12, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on November 12, 2014, 08:52:19 PM
I'm fairly certain that "OK" is an option in the MUTCD.  Judging by the confusion it's causing though it doesn't take much to assume that it's lightly used.

Quote from: 2009 MUTCD, Section 2B.21, Paragraph 07The word message OK may be used within the border in combination with the arrow symbols of the R3-6 sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 12, 2014, 10:33:15 PM
So you can either go straight or turn left to get to Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 13, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Someone inverted the colors on the Taconic shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny9g%2F101_0782-s.JPG&hash=929364b863521bb7d1f68acba90ac57326b46976)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 13, 2014, 01:23:37 PM
Actually, I like that color scheme for the Taconic Parkway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 14, 2014, 08:17:40 PM
Not sure about this one. Does anyone know if this is standard, or at least if you've seen others in NYC?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxEc7ndm.png&hash=b985b5b036f70bf4b9b2764d3be15dc70750c040)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 14, 2014, 08:22:21 PM
There's this thing as well:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fny%2Fnyc%2Fwokno.jpg&hash=939181b5095aeec16d40e6c0060744b399c9d2cd)
(photo from Alpsroads.net)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 14, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 14, 2014, 08:17:40 PM
Not sure about this one. Does anyone know if this is standard, or at least if you've seen others in NYC?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxEc7ndm.png&hash=b985b5b036f70bf4b9b2764d3be15dc70750c040)
That ONLY below is definitely wrong.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 14, 2014, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on November 14, 2014, 08:22:21 PM
There's this thing as well:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fny%2Fnyc%2Fwokno.jpg&hash=939181b5095aeec16d40e6c0060744b399c9d2cd)
(photo from Alpsroads.net)

Oh my god. I guess it's useful, but it just looks hideous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 15, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
I would have just put arrows to where it was ok to turn and nowhere else. I think when people are driving and see a black arrow, they believe they can turn there, without even reading the text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 15, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Got some more signs.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZtG5RsG.png&hash=8a1869bfe01f634c86c1a49807ba1d23df18e314)
Not sure about this one. Looks "off" to me.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fy1BIJIg.png&hash=98f8aa06fd314f007ac59d5f72d1b144693dd7e5)
That second shield looks awfully... bulbous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on November 15, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 15, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fy1BIJIg.png&hash=98f8aa06fd314f007ac59d5f72d1b144693dd7e5)
That second shield looks awfully... bulbous.

Drafting error.  I'd say they got the radius dimensions confused for the top curve vs the shoulder curves.  The fact that it's a cutout is troubling.  Does that mean a punch die was manufactured to the wrong specifications?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on November 15, 2014, 10:26:40 PM
Quote from: vtk on November 15, 2014, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 15, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
[Image removed]

That second shield looks awfully... bulbous.

Drafting error.  I'd say they got the radius dimensions confused for the top curve vs the shoulder curves.  The fact that it's a cutout is troubling.  Does that mean a punch die was manufactured to the wrong specifications?

Or they just laser cut it. Quite common nowadays as you can just take an AutoCAD file and have the thing finished within minutes, no die needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: talllguy on November 22, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Here's a sign for 95 on a trail in the Columbia area. It's way up there!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/15228587934_3041507e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW)
Photo (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 24, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
While not unique in style per say (though one could argue whether it's erroneous or not); the recently-erected replacement BGS' (http://goo.gl/maps/398U7) for the now-gone button-copy BGS' (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/us_202/) along US 202/322 at the Business 322/High St. interchange still uses Paoli for a US 202 northbound destination (as opposed to King of Prussia).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on November 24, 2014, 12:16:50 PM
Wah! What is with that "BUSINESS" drop cap on the High Street sign? Is that like Series E Condensed or something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 24, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on November 24, 2014, 12:16:50 PM
Wah! What is with that "BUSINESS" drop cap on the High Street sign?
PennDOT's done similar (http://goo.gl/maps/toF6m) before.

Quote from: Billy F 1988 on November 24, 2014, 12:16:50 PMIs that like Series E Condensed or something?
Same font as the other letters; just a different height.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on November 24, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.



District 4 strikes again - probably a knockdown was replaced under either Accident Recovery or the sign maintenance contract, and they likely based the replacement legend off of an old sign card.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on November 24, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 24, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on November 24, 2014, 12:16:50 PMIs that like Series E Condensed or something?
Same font as the other letters; just a different height.

To me, the raised-cap BUSINESS uses Series E letters with reduced inter-character spacing.  The letters, themselves are not compressed, just the spacing between them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 25, 2014, 12:32:51 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDvw6AVY.jpg&hash=1f4b5e12d2a7bccd26509c02a7d3817c527bdfad)

.112 Miles? That's 180 m or 591 ft.

ME 161 at US 1 / NB 161
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 25, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Maybe it's set that way for Canadians that don't' know what feet are? (not the Americans ever bother with unit conversions in the first place)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on November 25, 2014, 01:22:39 PM
But even so, ~600 feet isn't a commonly-used signage distance. Usually, they'd round it up to 1/8 mile or 1000 ft.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on November 25, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Obviously the construction contract specified the work limits by mileage along ME 161, to three decimal places as I'm sure is common.  Whatever rule normally results in signs like "road work next XXX miles" doesn't seem to have a provision for rounding, as I've seen other examples with so many digits given.  The fact that this work zone is so short just slightly adds to the absurdity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on November 27, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
I've seen that around here (and the reverse, U-turn must yield to right turn, placed where right turns get a green arrow along with the green left).

Question: in the states where you can turn left on red from a two-way onto a one-way, can you bang a uey on red?

It's also worth noting that (on multilane roads) this conflict technically only applies in states where you don't have to turn into the nearest lane. But requiring a U-turn into the leftmost lane is fucking stupid, since half the U-turners are going to be turning right soon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 27, 2014, 01:24:03 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.

I've seen deviations of that in Washington before: http://goo.gl/aLKDPT
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SSOWorld on November 27, 2014, 06:42:17 AM
Fargo has them as well
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 27, 2014, 02:31:25 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 27, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
Question: in the states where you can turn left on red from a two-way onto a one-way, can you bang a uey on red?

Left turn on red from two way to one way is found most often in downtown streets with one-way couplets, and downtown streets aren't often wide enough for U-turns. That said, this (http://goo.gl/1dlsft) is one place where a uey on red could occur. But at least in Washington, U-turns are legal except when you would interfere with other traffic or when a sign prevents it, so most people would just flip a bitch in the middle of the street. Meaning, your described situation is hilariously rare.

Quote from: NE2 on November 27, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
It's also worth noting that (on multilane roads) this conflict technically only applies in states where you don't have to turn into the nearest lane. But requiring a U-turn into the leftmost lane is fucking stupid, since half the U-turners are going to be turning right soon.

I don't think cars are capable of turning into the far left lane after a U-turn. There's a road near where I grew up that has three lanes in each direction with a hard median. Where there are lefts allowed, U-turns are also allowed. Despite having tried, I have never been able to turn into the closest lane (middle lane once).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on November 27, 2014, 06:10:47 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)
When IL-64/North Avenue was widened between I-355 and IL-59, signs similar to these popped up on the crossroads all along that stretch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mefailenglish on November 29, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg36%2Fjcm9572%2F20141127%2520-%2520South%2520Florida%2FIMG_4477_zpsb85b0991.jpg&hash=ea82d377e19f29947c877e80229d0fe927ea3089)
Presented w/o comment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 29, 2014, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: mefailenglish on November 29, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg36%2Fjcm9572%2F20141127%2520-%2520South%2520Florida%2FIMG_4477_zpsb85b0991.jpg&hash=ea82d377e19f29947c877e80229d0fe927ea3089)
Presented w/o comment.

The arrow is quite redundant I think. It's not a bad idea having the "MI" after the distance also, IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 29, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on November 30, 2014, 08:36:53 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 29, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.

I guess a good follow up question is normally which would normally have the right of way if there was no sign, right turn on red or U-turn.  Would this change if there were a right turn arrow, or a left turn arrow, or both.

In California, at any intersection with a right turn arrow that corresponds to a left turn arrow, there is a No U-turn sign.  Here in MD, that is not the case, and there have been a number of close calls that I've seen.  But does anyone know who would normally have the right of way?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: misterjimmy on November 30, 2014, 09:48:05 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 08, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3043%2F2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg&hash=56f29156e3801478cee79d986c1fbffb1de01b9b)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

Ewwwwwwwwwwww. How exactly does this end up happening? I mean, don't you think whoever is putting the assembly up would look at it and go, "Wait a minute, something isn't right here..."?
[/quote

  "Hey, kid, ya put the wrong font on this one!"

"Gee, sorry, Sully. Want me to go back to the shop and make another one?"

   "Nahhhhh, screw it. Hang that and let's go to lunch, kid"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 30, 2014, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: mrsman on November 30, 2014, 08:36:53 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 29, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.

I guess a good follow up question is normally which would normally have the right of way if there was no sign, right turn on red or U-turn.  Would this change if there were a right turn arrow, or a left turn arrow, or both.

In California, at any intersection with a right turn arrow that corresponds to a left turn arrow, there is a No U-turn sign.  Here in MD, that is not the case, and there have been a number of close calls that I've seen.  But does anyone know who would normally have the right of way?

It depends on what the other light is showing, but in general, if the person making the U-turn has a green light of any sort (whether an arrow or a ball), or even a flashing yellow arrow, the person making the turn on red must yield because he has a red light. That is, the green light for the person making the U-turn takes precedence because turning on red is an exception to the "stop and wait for a green rule" and it applies only when there is nobody else entitled to go first.

Of course, if the person turning right had a green right-turn arrow while the rest of the traffic on his road had a red, then the U-turner would be required to yield even if he also had a green arrow, under the principle that a U-turner must normally yield. It's quite undesirable to have conflicting green arrows like that, but I've definitely seen it. An intersection near my house had a "U-Turn Must Yield to Right Turn" sign posted, but the U-turners ignored it and it kept getting knocked down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Darkchylde on November 30, 2014, 01:58:03 PM
Quote from: misterjimmy on November 30, 2014, 09:48:05 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 08, 2013, 10:39:54 PM
Quote from: US71 on December 08, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3043%2F2889158303_95dbb237f5_z_d.jpg&hash=56f29156e3801478cee79d986c1fbffb1de01b9b)

US 56 near Kansas City, MO

Ewwwwwwwwwwww. How exactly does this end up happening? I mean, don't you think whoever is putting the assembly up would look at it and go, "Wait a minute, something isn't right here..."?

  "Hey, kid, ya put the wrong font on this one!"

"Gee, sorry, Sully. Want me to go back to the shop and make another one?"

   "Nahhhhh, screw it. Hang that and let's go to lunch, kid"
This is pretty much every sign in KCMO for US 56 except for the ones at the interchange with US 71.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on November 30, 2014, 05:14:40 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ6YhMxn.jpg&hash=249ae39b0dc6afd22c78b5adf689fbb8913b36e5)

What is a "narrow hill?" (also note the hidden driveway, it's apparently the law)

Location: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.121026,-74.495995&spn=0.014111,0.027874&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.12078,-74.495815&panoid=8iCRTdb-G2O8wTDK6q8fPw&cbp=12,177.3,,1,8.56
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 01, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny531%2F101_0833-s.JPG&hash=89c1f2253a39b71de05bb68b02d87fccb49e748e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on December 01, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: roadman on November 24, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.



District 4 strikes again - probably a knockdown was replaced under either Accident Recovery or the sign maintenance contract, and they likely based the replacement legend off of an old sign card.
Update: I drove by that area over the long holiday weekend; new LGS' have since replaced the older-style LGS'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on December 01, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
I don't think this has been posted: Suwanee River crossing sign with musical notation, I-10, Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3579774,-83.1945563,3a,75y,95.33h,86.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWiQf5GbaaP5O9ZQ2dilxw!2e0?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 02, 2014, 12:26:47 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 01, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny531%2F101_0833-s.JPG&hash=89c1f2253a39b71de05bb68b02d87fccb49e748e)

I think it's just fuck-ugly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 30, 2014, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: mrsman on November 30, 2014, 08:36:53 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 29, 2014, 08:57:37 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 27, 2014, 01:07:44 AM
Saw this today over in Madison, AL. This is the first time I've seen something like this.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8633/15888396182_6a89b456d1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd)
Right Turn On Red Must Yield To U-turn (https://flic.kr/p/qd1bDd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign also exists in Madison. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7209608,-86.7094351,3a,15y,286.82h,91.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7T7y1p1MtkuiEvcdnOHQ_g!2e0?hl=en)

Some intersections here have them. Not many people pay any attention to them.

I guess a good follow up question is normally which would normally have the right of way if there was no sign, right turn on red or U-turn.  Would this change if there were a right turn arrow, or a left turn arrow, or both.

In California, at any intersection with a right turn arrow that corresponds to a left turn arrow, there is a No U-turn sign.  Here in MD, that is not the case, and there have been a number of close calls that I've seen.  But does anyone know who would normally have the right of way?

It depends on what the other light is showing, but in general, if the person making the U-turn has a green light of any sort (whether an arrow or a ball), or even a flashing yellow arrow, the person making the turn on red must yield because he has a red light. That is, the green light for the person making the U-turn takes precedence because turning on red is an exception to the "stop and wait for a green rule" and it applies only when there is nobody else entitled to go first.

Of course, if the person turning right had a green right-turn arrow while the rest of the traffic on his road had a red, then the U-turner would be required to yield even if he also had a green arrow, under the principle that a U-turner must normally yield. It's quite undesirable to have conflicting green arrows like that, but I've definitely seen it. An intersection near my house had a "U-Turn Must Yield to Right Turn" sign posted, but the U-turners ignored it and it kept getting knocked down.

If you have the red light, it doesn't really matter what the color of the other lights are, or if you can or can't see if the other lights: If someone else is in the intersection, you can't go.  Period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on December 02, 2014, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: jbnv on December 01, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
I don't think this has been posted: Suwanee River crossing sign with musical notation, I-10, Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3579774,-83.1945563,3a,75y,95.33h,86.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWiQf5GbaaP5O9ZQ2dilxw!2e0?hl=en).

Only other instance with musical notes on a guide sign that comes to mind for me is the Hank Williams Memorial Lost Highway on I-65 in Lower Alabama:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama065/i-065_nb_exit_114_05.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 02, 2014, 08:15:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 02, 2014, 12:26:47 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 01, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny531%2F101_0833-s.JPG&hash=89c1f2253a39b71de05bb68b02d87fccb49e748e)

I think it's just fuck-ugly.

I-480 in Cleveland says hello:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/virtual_freeway_tours/1329292507/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/virtual_freeway_tours/1330186356/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/virtual_freeway_tours/1330186792/

Thankfully most, if not all of these, have been replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 02, 2014, 10:47:25 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 01, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
I want to know what's going on with the sign on the right:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny531%2F101_0833-s.JPG&hash=89c1f2253a39b71de05bb68b02d87fccb49e748e)

If the sign had been made the same height as the one to it's left, it could have been made with proper layout and spacing, and been made a couple feet narrower.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 03, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
Looks like they just used the same sizes as the old signs only to realize that the contents needed to be upgraded to newer standards: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1568474,-77.723023,3a,75y,111.85h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snr9AmTrnAJFsIoG1MqmNeQ!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on December 03, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
We're not sure.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE1Ao3all.jpg&hash=7987a334528990e0d22fabf9bddc255c692c63ae) (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.453227,-74.946198&spn=0.008251,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.453092,-74.946213&panoid=cyhVetGHnDLjRBPJhPnKWw&cbp=12,230.27,,0,14.21)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hubcity on December 03, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on December 03, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
We're not sure.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE1Ao3all.jpg&hash=7987a334528990e0d22fabf9bddc255c692c63ae) (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.453227,-74.946198&spn=0.008251,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.453092,-74.946213&panoid=cyhVetGHnDLjRBPJhPnKWw&cbp=12,230.27,,0,14.21)

A traffic control implement has not yet caused me to douse my keyboard in a mouthful of coffee, but this came the closest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 03, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: hubcity on December 03, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on December 03, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
We're not sure.

A traffic control implement has not yet caused me to douse my keyboard in a mouthful of coffee, but this came the closest.

Would it alarm you if I pointed out the misspelled "may be"? It's not supposed to be "maybe", which is in itself analogous with "perhaps" (so the sign could optionally read "Road Perhaps Flooded").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 03, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 03, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
Quote from: hubcity on December 03, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on December 03, 2014, 12:51:59 PM
We're not sure.

A traffic control implement has not yet caused me to douse my keyboard in a mouthful of coffee, but this came the closest.

Would it alarm you if I pointed out the misspelled "may be"? It's not supposed to be "maybe", which is in itself analogous with "perhaps" (so the sign could optionally read "Road Perhaps Flooded").

Agreed. More than likely, it's a misspelling. A great sign though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 03, 2014, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: mefailenglish on November 29, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg36%2Fjcm9572%2F20141127%2520-%2520South%2520Florida%2FIMG_4477_zpsb85b0991.jpg&hash=ea82d377e19f29947c877e80229d0fe927ea3089)
Presented w/o comment.

Mysteriously-ambiguous old Florida DOT standard to have an arrow pointing forward for no reason. Your example looks rather new, so I guess they aped an old sign.

From AlpsRoads.net (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/fl/i-95/s.html):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Ffl%2Fi-95%2Fsdist3.jpg&hash=9f92f8dc53311112014b215a4e71d5f7bf5e968c)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Ffl%2Fi-95%2Fnfort.jpg&hash=e7f4c4571083ae8985238d4015c296dc97124582)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 01:31:51 AM
Saw these two interesting signs in Federal Way, Washington yesterday:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fo9jdRTA.jpg&hash=1e05034f40b1464c779cf62be359bd3efe345144)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPRvKdUg.jpg&hash=82677ec0923f9d3d21aa84884db23c504c43367d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:12:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 01:31:51 AM

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPRvKdUg.jpg&hash=82677ec0923f9d3d21aa84884db23c504c43367d)

I looked through the MUTCD sections 2B.04-2B.12, and I cannot find any allowance or prohibition for using the 4-way plaque under a yield sign.  But I did read where they have prohibited the x-way plaque and want "all way" used instead.

So what is the difference between a 4-way stop and a 4 way-yield?   :hmmm:   :confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 14, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:12:09 AM
I looked through the MUTCD sections 2B.04-2B.12, and I cannot find any allowance or prohibition for using the 4-way plaque under a yield sign.
"05 The ALL WAY plaque shall only be used if all intersection approaches are controlled by STOP signs."

Quote from: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:12:09 AM
So what is the difference between a 4-way stop and a 4 way-yield?   :hmmm:   :confused:
An uncontrolled intersection is literally the same as an all-way yield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:33:06 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 14, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 14, 2014, 10:12:09 AM
I looked through the MUTCD sections 2B.04-2B.12, and I cannot find any allowance or prohibition for using the 4-way plaque under a yield sign.
"05 The ALL WAY plaque shall only be used if all intersection approaches are controlled by STOP signs."

Man I need to read a bit more careful.  So this means that the 4-way yield is non-compliant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 14, 2014, 11:25:36 AM
I can see where an All-Way Yield plaque could lead to trouble -- roundabouts.  It insinuates that people within a roundabout could yield to traffic waiting to enter, and then cause even more problems. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Just to clear this up, the all-way yield sign was in a parking lot. :sombrero: I suppose this means that it's hardly unique (most parking lot signs are unique in their awfulness) but it certainly caught my eye.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 15, 2014, 03:03:21 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2014, 01:31:51 AM
Saw these two interesting signs in Federal Way, Washington yesterday:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fo9jdRTA.jpg&hash=1e05034f40b1464c779cf62be359bd3efe345144)

Great that the flashing yellow indication--an arrow--was illuminated when that picture was taken.

Seems like the sign designer, or someone in the sign shop, had never seen an FYA display before and just modeled the sign after the standard "left turn yield on [circular green]" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on December 16, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
Bethesda Park. It's dangerous as shit, so watch your ass.  :ded:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJLEWRG1.jpg&hash=2aac53a8c8dfb54803a31026e1b104d09af3fcd2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
Not in the US:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l

NOT my pic. Credit goes to the author. No GMSV to back it up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on December 17, 2014, 11:43:44 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l
That, sir, is a horse's ass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
Not in the US:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l

NOT my pic. Credit goes to the author. No GMSV to back it up.

Miles?  In Canada?  I guess the Metric Police must have missed that one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 19, 2014, 12:23:02 PM

Quote from: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 11:39:25 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 17, 2014, 10:57:03 PM
Not in the US:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5532809828/sizes/l

NOT my pic. Credit goes to the author. No GMSV to back it up.

Miles?  In Canada?  I guess the Metric Police must have missed that one.

I've always been curious how non-metric literacy is evolving in Canada. Anyone over a certain age can surely think in miles and feet, as can anyone in construction, but I'll bet it's diminishing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
I've also noticed that the various TV programs featuring the contractor Mike Holmes (a Canadian) talk about almost every measurement in English units, except for temperature.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on December 21, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
I've also noticed that the various TV programs featuring the contractor Mike Holmes (a Canadian) talk about almost every measurement in English units, except for temperature.
Construction is still in feet and inches. People think of height in feet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 21, 2014, 04:59:51 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 02, 2014, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: jbnv on December 01, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
I don't think this has been posted: Suwanee River crossing sign with musical notation, I-10, Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3579774,-83.1945563,3a,75y,95.33h,86.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWiQf5GbaaP5O9ZQ2dilxw!2e0?hl=en).

Only other instance with musical notes on a guide sign that comes to mind for me is the Hank Williams Memorial Lost Highway on I-65 in Lower Alabama:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama065/i-065_nb_exit_114_05.jpg)

I'm guessing whoever designed that sign isn't a musician–the staff only has 4 lines!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 21, 2014, 09:17:04 PM
Maybe you wouldn't be able to read LOST HIGHWAY if it had more lines?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

and you'll see a small example of how ODOT had to respond to it:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.cleveland.com%2Froadrant_impact%2Fphoto%2Froad-rant-cleveland-brooklyn-i-71-3d22a4e0aa808e1d.jpg&hash=ff8a8877b2045038cc09751b633e7791660b36d3)

This 25-30 foot section of Cleveland makes the 500-some foot section of I-71 through nearby Linndale look like you're crossing Delaware on I-95!!!


I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 21, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on December 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PMI would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???

They would pro-rate it by length in each jurisdiction, and then spend approximately five times the total incident cost arguing in court about the bill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on December 22, 2014, 06:10:21 AM
I note one of those signs in the picture is Clearview 5W/4W, while the other is FHWA EM/E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on December 22, 2014, 03:32:08 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on December 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

Good grief. Can't they just shake hands and agree to move the border to the creek? There must be an interesting story that goes with that squiggly border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FInteresting_zpsc9673999.jpg&hash=40fc3137e75fc0e7cf1b75cda6d7ff3b04ca0691)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/mjodq
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 24, 2014, 12:15:33 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FInteresting_zpsc9673999.jpg&hash=40fc3137e75fc0e7cf1b75cda6d7ff3b04ca0691)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/mjodq

Old school Ontario.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 24, 2014, 12:16:27 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on December 21, 2014, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on December 19, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
I've also noticed that the various TV programs featuring the contractor Mike Holmes (a Canadian) talk about almost every measurement in English units, except for temperature.
Construction is still in feet and inches. People think of height in feet.

And to get even weirder, ambient temperatures are in Celsius, but cooking temperatures are in Fahrenheit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on December 24, 2014, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

I've seen "Squeeze Left" occasionally, but found only one picture of it in my collection.  This one's from a construction zone in Hadley, MA, in 2002.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20021013%2Fsqueeze.jpg&hash=6bea05505b113c00ee2d9782b5a043db19a4c6a8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 24, 2014, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
Never seen this before. I think it means the lane is ending...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FInteresting_zpsc9673999.jpg&hash=40fc3137e75fc0e7cf1b75cda6d7ff3b04ca0691)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/mjodq

ISTR a number of these on the Interborough (now Jackie Robinson) Parkway, in the area of the sharp curves in the cemetery belt as you leave Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on December 24, 2014, 09:12:35 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on December 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

and you'll see a small example of how ODOT had to respond to it:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.cleveland.com%2Froadrant_impact%2Fphoto%2Froad-rant-cleveland-brooklyn-i-71-3d22a4e0aa808e1d.jpg&hash=ff8a8877b2045038cc09751b633e7791660b36d3)

This 25-30 foot section of Cleveland makes the 500-some foot section of I-71 through nearby Linndale look like you're crossing Delaware on I-95!!!


I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???

Along those lines, Ohio also uses 'Enter Corp' and 'Leave Corp' signs for the same purposes, something I don't recall seeing in too many other places. As for your specific example, check this out:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F14%2F12%2F24%2F7de56a11db01bf7cfaaa092d582c009c.jpg&hash=f70d420da7783cfac67b2038497cf028aa892ec5)

US 62 in Columbus / Franklin Township (red is the township.) Note in at least one spot the line goes down the middle of the road! I have heard of arguments over accidents where even the police don't know what jurisdiction is needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 24, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
The FL sign posted a page back made me think of this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunicatingacrossboundaries.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F06%2Fmaine-turnpike.jpg&hash=dd157e99bfc96fc5fd9d510cc3714bd0e95ccc12)

Are NH and ME the only two states to provide distance in miles and kilometers?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on December 24, 2014, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on December 24, 2014, 10:00:42 PM
The FL sign posted a page back made me think of this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunicatingacrossboundaries.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F06%2Fmaine-turnpike.jpg&hash=dd157e99bfc96fc5fd9d510cc3714bd0e95ccc12)

Are NH and ME the only two states to provide distance in miles and kilometers?

NY has some on the Northway in Clinton County (Plattsburgh area), up to the Canadian border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 25, 2014, 01:15:37 PM
I don't recall seeing any the two times I was there.  Maybe they used to have them?  Even the French "limited cell service" sign uses miles!
http://www.nysroads.com/photos.php?route=i87&state=NY&file=101_0612.JPG (unfortunately blurry due to the sun; click for the full size which is kinda sorta readable)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 25, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
There are a few signs in both Kentucky and Tennessee that have miles and kilometers listed.

(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 25, 2014, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 25, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)

Depends on where you're from. I've always said the latter. Probably because that's how most Canadians pronounce it (notably, everyone in BC, even the British transplants).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on December 25, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
I remember distinctly pronouncing it "kilo-meters" in school but being told that I was incorrect. As a grammatical construct, kilo-meters makes sense because it's in line with how you pronounce the rest of the metric system.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 25, 2014, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: The Nature Boy on December 25, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
I remember distinctly pronouncing it "kilo-meters" in school but being told that I was incorrect. As a grammatical construct, kilo-meters makes sense because it's in line with how you pronounce the rest of the metric system.

Heh. I remember when I was a kid one of my classmates asked the teacher why we don't say "kill-ah-grums" instead of "kilo-grams" if we are to say "kill-ah-mitters."

To carry it to further absurdity, consider "kilolitres."

I've always said "kilo-metres" (with the first "e" a long "e").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 26, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 25, 2014, 08:26:48 PM
There are a few signs in both Kentucky and Tennessee that have miles and kilometers listed.

(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)

Thermometer would be a good barometer for how to pronounce kilometer....

I'm trying to think of a xxxometer that is not pronounced this way but cannot.

Velometer, pedometer, speedometer

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 26, 2014, 03:00:22 PM
But most ordinary people don't pronounce other metric measurements ending in "-metre" like "ih-tur"–it's not "sen-TIM-ih-tur," for example, or "mill-IH-mih-tur." It's illogical for this one measurement to be pronounced differently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TXtoNJ on December 26, 2014, 03:40:44 PM
American English, when given the choice, tends to stress the second syllable in words that have more than three syllables. Millimeter and centimeter once* were both pronounced with the stress on the second syllable (~1828), but that faded away, owing in part to "e" being a stronger vowel than a "short i". With kilometer, though, the "short o" tends to be a stronger vowel than "e", making it more resistant to this change in pronunciation.

*To be fair, at that time, only the very well-educated would even know what a millimeter or centimeter were.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on December 26, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
We should all just say "klicks".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on December 26, 2014, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: kurumi on December 26, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
We should all just say "klicks".

I'll stick with 0.62 mile, thankyouverymuch.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 30, 2014, 11:54:28 AM
Never seen this one before.

http://goo.gl/maps/r34HJ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on January 03, 2015, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on December 26, 2014, 02:35:39 PM

Thermometer would be a good barometer for how to pronounce kilometer....

I'm trying to think of a xxxometer that is not pronounced this way but cannot.


Picometer, nanometer, hectometer
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 03, 2015, 09:45:33 PM
In modern English, emphasis on the first syllable (CENT-i-meter, MILL-i-meter) usually indicates a metric unit, while emphasis on the  second syllable (spee-DOM-eter, o-DOM-eter, ther-MOM-eter) usually indicates a measuring device. The pronunciation "kil-OM-eter" is an illogical exception.

Also, in most if not all English-speaking countries other than the United States, metric units end with "-re" while measuring devices end with "-er".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 04, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
Signs like these debuted along the 402 in Sarnia, ON about a decade ago.  Queued US bound trucks were instructed not to block ramp lanes, and signs like these were installed at the end of each ramp in Sarnia.  Only this one remains:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Frampendshere.jpg&hash=55e7b0ed499650d90dcda91edd7eed594ba6806b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on January 04, 2015, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 26, 2014, 09:19:18 PM

I'll stick with 0.62 mile, thankyouverymuch.  :bigass:

I'll prefer to go with 1.609344 km instead of a mile :sombrero:.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 04, 2015, 11:58:58 PM
Don't really know where to post this, so I'll post this here.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5146461955/in/pool-canada-signs

Love it. Not my pic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on January 05, 2015, 08:12:39 AM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 04, 2015, 03:41:52 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 26, 2014, 09:19:18 PM

I'll stick with 0.62 mile, thankyouverymuch.  :bigass:

I'll prefer to go with 1.609344 km instead of a mile :sombrero:.

Except it's 1.609347218694 because a km is 5280 survey feet (exactly 39.37 in/m vs exactly 2.54 cm/in).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on January 05, 2015, 08:51:00 AM

Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 04, 2015, 11:58:58 PM
Don't really know where to post this, so I'll post this here.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/canadagood/5146461955/in/pool-canada-signs

Love it. Not my pic.

In the Rural Municipality of Happyland!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 05, 2015, 10:32:02 AM
During last weekend's Cape May mini-meet; we all saw this gem of a sign (http://goo.gl/maps/PG4uu) along CR 621/Ocean Drive in North Wildwood.

IMHO, the above would rival this one (http://goo.gl/maps/PU8XX) in Lower Township; the site of the meet's group photo (which will eventually be posted in the meet thread).

Close-up of similar sign at the opposite side of the bridge, now gone; scroll down (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/nj_162/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 05, 2015, 11:55:09 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi248.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg198%2Fthehighwayman394%2FB5TvOPyIEAA6aw0_zpsbb189a05.jpg&hash=c0b37667d04fbb635cad8f59a584a4db80950900)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on January 05, 2015, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 05, 2015, 11:55:09 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi248.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg198%2Fthehighwayman394%2FB5TvOPyIEAA6aw0_zpsbb189a05.jpg&hash=c0b37667d04fbb635cad8f59a584a4db80950900)

That's hilarious.   :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 05, 2015, 06:37:51 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/4118984473/in/pool-canada-signs

Quite unique. Not even sure what font this is, but it's not Helvetica, Arial, Times New Roman or any of the arialveticverstesk combination.

Doesn't look like the MTO installed it though. Could be local or private.

Not my pic. Credit goes to the author.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 05, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
I always like seeing Series E for interstate numerals...wait this shield also appears to be a 2di. I love it even more now.

For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEN4zh0j.jpg&hash=c4eef26c1792c13a381d89220a57dcef7f45b553)



Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 05, 2015, 06:37:51 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/4118984473/in/pool-canada-signs

Quite unique. Not even sure what font this is, but it's not Helvetica, Arial, Times New Roman or any of the arialveticverstesk combination.

Interesting. I imagine it might be a bit difficult to read from a distance with all the detail in the letters. I think that's why sans-serif fonts work so well on road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 05, 2015, 07:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 05, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEN4zh0j.jpg&hash=c4eef26c1792c13a381d89220a57dcef7f45b553)
http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-705_wa.html

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages705%2Fi-705_wa_st_12.jpg&hash=87009a290ba293800a8b9d57b988bd191b49bab8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on January 05, 2015, 07:36:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 25, 2014, 08:26:48 PM(Why do we pronounce it "killahmahters" instead of "killometers"?)

Star Trek.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 05, 2015, 07:45:20 PM
No, that's why we say sabataage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 05, 2015, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 05, 2015, 06:37:51 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/4118984473/in/pool-canada-signs

Quite unique. Not even sure what font this is, but it's not Helvetica, Arial, Times New Roman or any of the arialveticverstesk combination.

Doesn't look like the MTO installed it though. Could be local or private.

Not my pic. Credit goes to the author.
That would be Optima. It was one of the first of the "humanist" family of fonts, which Clearview is a member of.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mhh on January 05, 2015, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on January 04, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
Signs like these debuted along the 402 in Sarnia, ON about a decade ago.  Queued US bound trucks were instructed not to block ramp lanes, and signs like these were installed at the end of each ramp in Sarnia.  Only this one remains:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Frampendshere.jpg&hash=55e7b0ed499650d90dcda91edd7eed594ba6806b)

Westbound Hwy. 402 in Sarnia has been widened from two lanes to four, and additional customs booths have been added on the American side (at Canadian expense), greatly reducing the length of traffic backups. I drive this route often and have noticed a huge difference.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:20:01 AM
Quote from: NE2 on January 05, 2015, 07:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 05, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.

http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-705_wa.html

You're getting at something but I'm not getting it. I know what the sign normally looks like (construction on the freeway portion of Highway 7 has it closed) but I want to know what used to be under the I-705 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 06, 2015, 12:24:38 AM
Oops. I'm, er, orange-green colorblind. That's it.

Maybe it's just a faded I-705 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:43:45 AM
Quote from: NE2 on January 06, 2015, 12:24:38 AM
Oops. I'm, er, orange-green colorblind. That's it.

Maybe it's just a faded I-705 shield.

np m8. There's a lot of green-out in the area (this is an original, mostly untouched stretch of Interstate 5). Nearby signs like a BGS pointing towards SR-167 have a green-out covering US-410 (https://www.aaroads.com/west/washington005/i-005_nb_exit_135_02.jpg), which was decommissioned in 1967. I assume the sign with the 705 shield is from the same era.

Historic Aerials suggests a couple of options. Highway 509 ran along Pacific Avenue near Downtown Tacoma until I-705 was constructed in the early 90s (the last Interstate to be built in Washington). The map also shows Highway 16 along the same route at the same time. I don't know why the map would show that, however. I always thought that 16 had always been where it exists today (from the 16/5 interchange to just south of Bremerton).

Based on the fact that I-705 has only existed since 1990, I assume that the sign shows one of the above options, since a shield fading after only 15 years seems unlikely.

Historic Aerials Link (http://historicaerials.com?layer=T1976&zoom=14&lat=47.243638647630696&lon=-122.43885040283203)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 11:31:30 AM
I have no proof, but I'm pretty sure when that sign originally went up, it had an error SR 705 shield, or at least one such sign in the area did. I think that's what's covered here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:43:45 AMThe map also shows Highway 16 along the same route at the same time. I don't know why the map would show that, however. I always thought that 16 had always been where it exists today (from the 16/5 interchange to just south of Bremerton).

Nope, definitely jives with what I thought.  While the 16 Freeway parallels Bantz Blvd (mostly no longer existant, since judging from those aerials/old topos, it was upgraded on the spot), before the freeway was completed, 16 (or pre-1964, PSH 14) followed 6th Avenue into downtown.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:43:45 AM
There's a lot of green-out in the area (this is an original, mostly untouched stretch of Interstate 5). Nearby signs like a BGS pointing towards SR-167 have a green-out covering US-410 (https://www.aaroads.com/west/washington005/i-005_nb_exit_135_02.jpg), which was decommissioned in 1967. I assume the sign with the 705 shield is from the same era.

Mostly untouched???  Even before construction around the 16 interchange started, sign replacement was rampant.  Not completely thorough, as you mention, but for every ancient sign that you point out, I'll point out half a dozen no older than a decade.  In another thread, we mentioned the new signs at 56th Street that use an ugly way too narrow font where they replaced Tacoma Mall Blvd with University Place as the "control city".  Signs at the next exit south now read "S 72 St/S 84 St" instead of "So. 72nd St./So. 84th St."  Any sign that has Gig Harbor in addition to Bremerton for SR 16 is relatively new, and not all such replacements were necessitated by the new interchange configuration.

Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:43:45 AMThe map also shows Highway 16 along the same route at the same time. I don't know why the map would show that, however. I always thought that 16 had always been where it exists today (from the 16/5 interchange to just south of Bremerton).

Nope, definitely jives with what I thought.  While the 16 Freeway parallels Bantz Blvd (mostly no longer existant, since judging from those aerials/old topos, it was upgraded on the spot), before the freeway was completed, 16 (or pre-1964, PSH 14) followed 6th Avenue into downtown.

Speaking of Bantz Boulevard, it still exists, but only as a short one-way frontage road between 6th and Pearl. Sort of an interesting throwback on the part of WSDOT (since that frontage road was only built a few years ago). Looking at the old aerials of Tacoma, looks like Bantz was a regular at-grade intersection at 48th near Cheney Stadium as recently as 1990. Really quite difficult to imagine!

Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 12:43:45 AM
There's a lot of green-out in the area (this is an original, mostly untouched stretch of Interstate 5). Nearby signs like a BGS pointing towards SR-167 have a green-out covering US-410 (https://www.aaroads.com/west/washington005/i-005_nb_exit_135_02.jpg), which was decommissioned in 1967. I assume the sign with the 705 shield is from the same era.

Mostly untouched???  Even before construction around the 16 interchange started, sign replacement was rampant.  Not completely thorough, as you mention, but for every ancient sign that you point out, I'll point out half a dozen no older than a decade.  In another thread, we mentioned the new signs at 56th Street that use an ugly way too narrow font where they replaced Tacoma Mall Blvd with University Place as the "control city".  Signs at the next exit south now read "S 72 St/S 84 St" instead of "So. 72nd St./So. 84th St."  Any sign that has Gig Harbor in addition to Bremerton for SR 16 is relatively new, and not all such replacements were necessitated by the new interchange configuration.

Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.

I mean the section between 705 and 167. All of the signs along that stretch are ancient (the BGS for Portland Ave is button copy -- fairly certain it's one of the last remaining button copy freeway signs in the state). Though you might be right about the 705/7 exit only sign in question, since the exit-only plaque has a black border, which is something WSDOT only started doing about 20 years ago (maybe).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 07, 2015, 12:36:49 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 07:43:27 PMI mean the section between 705 and 167. All of the signs along that stretch are ancient (the BGS for Portland Ave is button copy -- fairly certain it's one of the last remaining button copy freeway signs in the state). Though you might be right about the 705/7 exit only sign in question, since the exit-only plaque has a black border, which is something WSDOT only started doing about 20 years ago (maybe).


Ah, didn't realize you were taking specifically about such a small section.  Still, I think your statement might only apply to the northbound side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PColumbus73 on January 07, 2015, 02:47:58 PM
Quote from: 6a on December 24, 2014, 09:12:35 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on December 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
ODOT in the recent years had to note every crossing of a city limit on a stretch of I-71 between exits 244 and 245 to denote what is in the city of Brooklyn and what is in the city of Cleveland.  It was moreso because the 2 cities were getting very anal about which city had to respond to calls on this stretch of freeway (talk about splitting hairs)

Look at how often I-71 crosses between the 2 cities in under a mile on this map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Brooklyn,+OH/@41.447575,-81.7380672,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ee468f9bf5f5:0x6cbe6346175e419a

and you'll see a small example of how ODOT had to respond to it:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.cleveland.com%2Froadrant_impact%2Fphoto%2Froad-rant-cleveland-brooklyn-i-71-3d22a4e0aa808e1d.jpg&hash=ff8a8877b2045038cc09751b633e7791660b36d3)

This 25-30 foot section of Cleveland makes the 500-some foot section of I-71 through nearby Linndale look like you're crossing Delaware on I-95!!!


I would hate to see what would happen if a 53' semi trailer or larger would have an incident on this spot. How would the two cities cope???

Along those lines, Ohio also uses 'Enter Corp' and 'Leave Corp' signs for the same purposes, something I don't recall seeing in too many other places. As for your specific example, check this out:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F14%2F12%2F24%2F7de56a11db01bf7cfaaa092d582c009c.jpg&hash=f70d420da7783cfac67b2038497cf028aa892ec5)

US 62 in Columbus / Franklin Township (red is the township.) Note in at least one spot the line goes down the middle of the road! I have heard of arguments over accidents where even the police don't know what jurisdiction is needed.

Whom ever is closest to the call should be the one to get it, regardless of jurisdiction. In regard to the Columbus/Franklin Township, I think the township should either incorporate into it's own town, or be absorbed into Columbus (or surrender the parts of the township that are discontinuous), or negotiate with the city on redrawing the boundary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on January 09, 2015, 06:27:35 PM
Evendale, Ohio...note the use of the period:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7536/16214271836_f32b1a5c0c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qGNo7Y)US 42 sign, Evendale, OH (https://flic.kr/p/qGNo7Y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.

Jake, I'm on mobile (for the foreseeable future) so I can't provide a link, but if you look at the back of the sign in GSV, you can see a white sticker in the lower right corner that has the year the sign was put up. I can't zoom in far enough or get the right angle to get a clear shot, but it looks to me like it says 07.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 06, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
Using the slider on GSV confirms that this sign is older than 2007, but I'm about 95% sure it's the one I'm thinking of that has an error shield underneath, and that it's no older than when I moved back to the general area in '04.  Definitely doesn't date to 1990.

Jake, I'm on mobile (for the foreseeable future) so I can't provide a link, but if you look at the back of the sign in GSV, you can see a white sticker in the lower right corner that has the year the sign was put up. I can't zoom in far enough or get the right angle to get a clear shot, but it looks to me like it says 07.

Good thinking. 2002 (http://goo.gl/KUzJAX):

I would have never thought the sign was that new. Now I just want to contact the DOT and get an official answer (unless they ignore me like last time).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdbzChpC.png&hash=b0df9054614c19075b7a8a6be824a1f89fff927a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2015, 07:20:17 PM
I was close... sort of... not really. (So it wasn't after I moved back, it was during the previous time I lived in Seattle...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2015, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2015, 07:20:17 PM
I was close... sort of... not really. (So it wasn't after I moved back, it was during the previous time I lived in Seattle...)

I think, in road years, 2002 and 2004 are basically the same. So job well done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 15, 2015, 04:00:13 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.287973,-94.852325,3a,75y,73.12h,87.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8yQ6mgk0-Zr6Od8wjTCx0Q!2e0

This is approaching the last southbound exit on I-45 in Galveston, TX. I've never seen a secondary destination sign for an exit with arrows for each one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 15, 2015, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on January 15, 2015, 04:00:13 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.287973,-94.852325,3a,75y,73.12h,87.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8yQ6mgk0-Zr6Od8wjTCx0Q!2e0

This is approaching the last southbound exit on I-45 in Galveston, TX. I've never seen a secondary destination sign for an exit with arrows for each one.

Those arrows were not necessary...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 16, 2015, 10:36:15 AM
Definitely unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2FUpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg&hash=571c872bd2d83d27e4ab358607422c4939d29ae4) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/UpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on January 16, 2015, 11:38:20 AM
Quote from: Brandon on January 16, 2015, 10:36:15 AM
Definitely unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2FUpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg&hash=571c872bd2d83d27e4ab358607422c4939d29ae4) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/UpperPeninsulaJune2006036.jpg.html)

That's half as much as Paradise gets in an average year, but Paradise has no big sign about it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 16, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
I can't decide which thread is the right place for this one. Spotted it yesterday on Seminary Road in Alexandria, Virginia, and passed it again today, allowing me to get a picture.

The sign is trying to tell you that the far right lane (the one coming in from my right on the other side of the island) is an option lane at the traffic light up ahead past the dump truck, the left lane is left-only at the same light, and then beyond the light the left thru lane goes straight over the main overpass and the two lanes to the right of that split to the right onto a different overpass to provide access to I-395 northbound (via a left turn further up the road). Going straight through the light in the far right lane puts you in a lane leading to southbound I-395.

How effective the sign is at conveying all that, I don't know, given that I know the area well even with the current construction project. But the sign certainly seems to qualify as a strange one to me given how it appears to depict two right-turn-only lanes slamming into a straight-thru lane.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2Ffddb374ddfe4df9cb71eb0fea0cb1a89_zpsf55ebc6a.jpg&hash=4a1f5b28a1ebd3f2a108ef45670a85df30afa009)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 16, 2015, 11:16:51 PM
The sign layout is odd.

What they probably should have done was use two rows of arrows and some text to convey this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 17, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
Quote from: roadfro on January 16, 2015, 11:16:51 PM
The sign layout is odd.

What they probably should have done was use two rows of arrows and some text to convey this.

Yeah, I found myself thinking of ways to depict it and I was thinking (1) something similar to the little island icon used on "keep right/left" or "divided highway begins/ends" signs ought to go between the vertical straight-ahead arrow and the right-turn arrows, (2) the two adjacent right-turn arrows should show a more gradual curve to them, (3) the straight portion of the option lane arrow should likewise be curved, and (4) the turn arrow for the option lane could either stay as-is or be more sharply angled.

Virginia isn't averse to using oddly-shaped arrows when needed, so the above could work here, but I'm not sure whether VDOT or the City of Alexandria posted this sign.

Of course, the sign will be replaced in a year or two when the overpass reconstruction (coupled with construction of a new HOV ramp) is done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 18, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
Here are some odd signs in my school's parking lot:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7545/16125058720_d2cb03630f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qyV9aN)One Way (https://flic.kr/p/qyV9aN) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7502/15692567243_60a2200c73.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pUGvwc)Do Not Enter (https://flic.kr/p/pUGvwc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on January 18, 2015, 05:39:01 PM
Does "One Way Only" imply that signs just reading "One Way" indicate one way of various ways you could choose? 

This really changes things.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
Quote from: talllguy on November 22, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Here's a sign for 95 on a trail in the Columbia area. It's way up there!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/15228587934_3041507e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW)
Photo (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

I have increasingly seen signs like this on other trails that pass over/under a freeway. I've even started to see interpretive signs talking about the impact of the freeway (I don't have any pictures to share, but there's one in particular that I should photograph and post to show what I've found). I think this sort of thing is a growing trend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 18, 2015, 11:25:25 PM
I didn't whether to post this in "Worst of" or "Best of". After all, it is one of the oldest signs around the city, but that patch...  X-(

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FInteresting2_zps10dc11a7.jpg&hash=b8cd4ddfa30668b062973feb01b7730f7f40ca9e)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/2Q05a
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 05, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
For what it's worth, this sign has been installed for a long time. I'm still not sure what the green-out covers.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEN4zh0j.jpg&hash=c4eef26c1792c13a381d89220a57dcef7f45b553)



I believe it was an SR 509 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 19, 2015, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
I believe it was an SR 509 shield.


While 509 isn't that far away, and certainly might have been signed at this interchange before I-705 was a thing, now that we know the sign dates only to 2002, I find that highly unlikely.

While I have no proof (and I'm not sure how we might now be able legally obtain proof), I'd be willing to bet a small sum of money that it covers an erroneous SR 705 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 19, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 18, 2015, 11:25:25 PM
I didn't whether to post this in "Worst of" or "Best of". After all, it is one of the oldest signs around the city, but that patch...  X-(

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FInteresting2_zps10dc11a7.jpg&hash=b8cd4ddfa30668b062973feb01b7730f7f40ca9e)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/2Q05a

I've seen similar on many older signs in Ohio.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 07:40:27 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 19, 2015, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
I believe it was an SR 509 shield.


While 509 isn't that far away, and certainly might have been signed at this interchange before I-705 was a thing, now that we know the sign dates only to 2002, I find that highly unlikely.

While I have no proof (and I'm not sure how we might now be able legally obtain proof), I'd be willing to bet a small sum of money that it covers an erroneous SR 705 shield.

If the sign dates to 2002, then I agree with you it's probably not 509.  My basis for assuming so was how they've signed this gantry on I-705.  I was guessing that while they were completing the freeway they had portions of it signed as 509.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F3c%2FI-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg%2F1920px-I-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg&hash=61bdd9f5a56a0e7d60ae7e18ca983cae00b819e3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bigboi00069 on January 19, 2015, 11:18:29 PM
Forgive me if this has been posted, but while driving south on I-39/90 in Illinois just south of the Wisconsin state line, i noticed an "Alcohol Limit" sign that says .08. At first glance it really confused me as it looks way too much like a real speed limit sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4736187,-88.9952287,3a,45.3y,224.06h,84.14t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPXxucoZQY9ba6u8lJrV1Tw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 20, 2015, 12:46:14 AM
Quote from: talllguy on November 22, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Here's a sign for 95 on a trail in the Columbia area. It's way up there!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/15228587934_3041507e23_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW)
Photo (https://flic.kr/p/pcGuCW) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Almost makes me wonder if there should be something similar on the Withlacoochee State Trail under I-75. Or perhaps even under US 41 in Inverness once that road is widened and the bridge is replaced.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 20, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.475783,-83.887993,3a,37.5y,324.88h,89.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sc0fsWB9em8WfMmgGBiwJ6A!2e0
Check this one out with a missing arrow for Monticello 5. 

Is Monticello 5 miles to the right or left?

This sign should also be including Thomasville, GA as the ramp its for has Thomasville as one of its control cities.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on January 20, 2015, 11:31:20 AM
Some old text only BGSes on NY 252 in Rochester/Henrietta.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.091001,-77.647141,3a,75y,102.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sODpQBbioEk-HP1xCe0YZLw!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.08918,-77.641097,3a,75y,102.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1se1wotoCNSEqecSFNqsuoZA!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.087138,-77.632033,3a,75y,281.43h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sTo4OHC1p4cDQXRsnNWRVbw!2e0?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.089172,-77.640634,3a,75y,284.39h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZi4iqenX1TKiRUnJXpBGrA!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 20, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 20, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.475783,-83.887993,3a,37.5y,324.88h,89.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sc0fsWB9em8WfMmgGBiwJ6A!2e0
Check this one out with a missing arrow for Monticello 5. 

Is Monticello 5 miles to the right or left?

This sign should also be including Thomasville, GA as the ramp its for has Thomasville as one of its control cities.

I have seen a sign around here somewhere where the one arrow...next to the control point on the bottom of the sign...was meant for both towns listed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 21, 2015, 02:04:28 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 20, 2015, 10:25:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.475783,-83.887993,3a,37.5y,324.88h,89.51t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sc0fsWB9em8WfMmgGBiwJ6A!2e0
Check this one out with a missing arrow for Monticello 5. 

Is Monticello 5 miles to the right or left?

This sign should also be including Thomasville, GA as the ramp its for has Thomasville as one of its control cities.

Assuming the MUTCD is being followed and the arrow is just missing, Monticello should be straight ahead (or possibly also to the left). Distance and destination signs are recommended to have destinations listed in straight-left-right order from top to bottom, and the right arrow would be on the right side of the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 21, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on January 19, 2015, 07:40:27 PMMy basis for assuming so was how they've signed this gantry on I-705.  I was guessing that while they were completing the freeway they had portions of it signed as 509.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F3%2F3c%2FI-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg%2F1920px-I-705_approaching_WA-509.jpg&hash=61bdd9f5a56a0e7d60ae7e18ca983cae00b819e3)

I assume you're taking about the "reassurance markers" on either side. I see your point, but my assumption would be those aren't actually reassurance markers (that is, they are/were not intended to indicate that you're actually on 509 north). Rather, when combined with the HC signs, it's a nonstandard way of saying that hazardous cargo may (or perhaps must) take 509, particularly if they can't take the 11th Street Bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 21, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
One of the few signs that I know of in the Tennessee Valley that doesn't use Clearview or Highway Gothic:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.695756,-86.000906,3a,75y,116.34h,82.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssep-t2DBzwIRY95SG7FNoQ!2e0?hl=en
It's also the only Arial sign I know of in the Tennessee Valley, but I'm willing to bet that there is more out there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2015, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 21, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
One of the few signs that I know of in the Tennessee Valley that doesn't use Clearview or Highway Gothic:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.695756,-86.000906,3a,75y,116.34h,82.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssep-t2DBzwIRY95SG7FNoQ!2e0?hl=en
It's also the only Arial sign I know of in the Tennessee Valley, but I'm willing to bet that there is more out there.

:-o That should be in worst. Even the signs around here don't look that bad.  :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 22, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2015, 10:18:52 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 21, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
One of the few signs that I know of in the Tennessee Valley that doesn't use Clearview or Highway Gothic:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.695756,-86.000906,3a,75y,116.34h,82.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssep-t2DBzwIRY95SG7FNoQ!2e0?hl=en
It's also the only Arial sign I know of in the Tennessee Valley, but I'm willing to bet that there is more out there.

:-o That should be in worst. Even the signs around here don't look that bad.  :ded:
I think it looks pretty ugly myself, but I wasn't sure if it was bad enough to go there.

Also, Gurley, AL has street name signs that are black with white lettering. At one end, there is a black "G" in a white square.
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2d3dkfz1rdl76zikzphzbf
Also, does anyone know what font they use? It looks similar to Times New Roman.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 22, 2015, 07:45:24 PM
Has anyone mentioned LA1 at Shreveport yet?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 22, 2015, 08:09:54 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 22, 2015, 07:45:24 PM
Has anyone mentioned LA1 at Shreveport yet?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)

I think someone mentioned it somewhere in The Worst of Road Signs...oh yeah...you did a little over 4 years ago:  :sombrero:   :-D

Quote from: US71 on September 21, 2010, 11:41:42 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3173%2F2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg&hash=1d04a72de4f170e912b8a468460dd4c46d17b1d6)

LA 1 gets hit with the Ugly Stick in Shreveport

I haven't been down N. Market St. in a few years.  Is that ugly thing still there?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 23, 2015, 11:02:47 AM
^^^^^   (I didn't want to repost the ugly)

It's been gone a while now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 23, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.527594,-74.299006,3a,47.3y,187.7h,96.47t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scLBaOVSNu1WUuJmTZnPsjw!2e0
The Garden State Parkway entrance ramp signs were always cool to me with that slanted side complementing the arrow as you can see here.  Right side entrance ramps would have the right side slanted of course, but nonetheless a Parkway trademark either way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on January 24, 2015, 02:08:58 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 23, 2015, 12:47:37 PMThe Garden State Parkway entrance ramp signs were always cool to me with that slanted side complementing the arrow as you can see here.  Right side entrance ramps would have the right side slanted of course, but nonetheless a Parkway trademark either way.

The Indiana Toll Road  and the Ohio Turnpike used to do that on their exit signs as well.  I always thought that was so cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 24, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
Never seen this before.

http://goo.gl/maps/DIkkp

Looks like the MTO pulled off a CalTrans or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 24, 2015, 01:36:48 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 24, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
Never seen this before.

http://goo.gl/maps/DIkkp

Looks like the MTO pulled off a CalTrans or something.

Those are quite common in Ontario now:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_402-403_images%2F403_dv_108-5_east_Oct14.jpg&hash=950ae3967afe912684d443509db520e4aec480ae)

I've been told that the reason for the integrated tab has to do with wind loading.

Hwy 407 ETR uses its own unique partial gantry design along the tollway which does have a normal tab.  407 considers this gantry design to be propriety and will not share the design with the MTO.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_407-409_images%2F407_dv_32-5_east_May14.jpg&hash=911559ac910eef4c6b9010a0bb858810e192ae16)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 24, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
Quote from: renegade on January 24, 2015, 02:08:58 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 23, 2015, 12:47:37 PMThe Garden State Parkway entrance ramp signs were always cool to me with that slanted side complementing the arrow as you can see here.  Right side entrance ramps would have the right side slanted of course, but nonetheless a Parkway trademark either way.

The Indiana Toll Road  and the Ohio Turnpike used to do that on their exit signs as well.  I always thought that was so cool.
Ontario does on the QEW gore EXIT signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on January 24, 2015, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 24, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
Ontario does on the QEW gore EXIT signs.

Ontario used to use trapezoidal exit signs, but no longer does:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fasphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fvintage%2F401%2F1989%2FNorth_York%2F401_75.jpg&hash=23aceec770aa17008431f0d862370f0da52cbb96)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2FExit_96A.jpg&hash=8a0b63411c47f09ff223198cc3ca89f689575a62)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 25, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
Bad, but very unique along Arsenal Road near Elwood, IL:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4871_zpspkieaxu2.jpg&hash=7871ee2b0b233ac0c6a661578f6b999cc2c645d8) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4871_zpspkieaxu2.jpg.html)

Interesting no outlet diamond in Chicago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4849_zpsgwaviovb.jpg&hash=97a8288605b2aa07148f8d5f850f2a5ce9a4d3c2) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_4849_zpsgwaviovb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 25, 2015, 07:11:20 PM
I'm impressed with the "To I-295" signage at a Wawa in West Deptford, NJ.  Used the proper FHWA fonts; even made the N larger in North.

But why red?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2FEFEC0E85-1CDF-4FBB-A99D-B7216FB90554.jpg&hash=36cdda069f3e882ba719e2c1b49199a3d8f45591) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/EFEC0E85-1CDF-4FBB-A99D-B7216FB90554.jpg.html)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F5C7ABB33-B645-4BCB-A010-B9807FAFE689.jpg&hash=b85a568156fa450620dabedabd2a7dc1e11e5416) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/5C7ABB33-B645-4BCB-A010-B9807FAFE689.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on January 26, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Some good and bad/ugly here.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7441%2F15754283884_a2f436f696_b.jpg&hash=93315a190c0dba751a7676ad1c701ffebad8db09)

Good: Nice looking 3dUS shield (dunno why people here seem to hate them), the PA SR marker just below the arrow. Around these parts of the Commonwealth at least, they usually don't post them on surface US and state highways.

Bad: Just out of the shot is the other half of the sign set pointing to US 202 North. I guess there wasn't enough room to put both signs together?

Ugly: That Helvetica Black sign blade. Just gross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on January 26, 2015, 07:16:45 PM
If the signpost was leaning to the left instead of the right, then the letters on the diamond might be level.  :rolleyes:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_4871_zpspkieaxu2.jpg&hash=7871ee2b0b233ac0c6a661578f6b999cc2c645d8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Joe The Dragon on January 26, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
on rand rd just past golf there is an old 294 sign

https://goo.gl/maps/MiiHO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 26, 2015, 10:29:11 PM
I've spotted a few of these around Huntsville for the past several months, just finally got a photo of one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/16376771892_0e87976771.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5)End School Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 27, 2015, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on January 26, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
on rand rd just past golf there is an old 294 sign

https://goo.gl/maps/MiiHO

lolwut
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 27, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 26, 2015, 10:29:11 PM
I've spotted a few of these around Huntsville for the past several months, just finally got a photo of one:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/16376771892_0e87976771.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5)End School Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
They're starting to pop up in NY.  I think they're now a part of the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on January 27, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
looks like something put up by the city under the category of "wayfinding" signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on January 27, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
looks like something put up by the city under the category of "wayfinding" signage.

That's what I would think as well. They are all over Worcester it seems. Here's another one... (http://goo.gl/maps/vV9Ro)

Their signs remind me of Airport-style signage honestly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 27, 2015, 05:22:47 PM
Ah, Worcestignage (pronounced wuss-tine-ij). Part of their purpose seems to be getting traffic off Main Street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 27, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 27, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 26, 2015, 10:29:11 PM
I've spotted a few of these around Huntsville for the past several months, just finally got a photo of one:
End School Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/qXaeJ5) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
They're starting to pop up in NY.  I think they're now a part of the MUTCD.

Yep. Sign code S5-3, introduced in the 2009 MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 27, 2015, 10:03:28 PM
I already miss the art deco Exit 6 gantry on the NJ Turnpike.  Thanks to the 6-9 widening project a historical figure is now gone for good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on January 27, 2015, 11:01:51 PM
I've seen quite a few of these interesting assemblies (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.233079,-79.846331,3a,49y,274.27h,83.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9zS65lj__sP1KUo3lFo_Xw!2e0) in Pennsylvania. Somewhat analogous to New York's "End xx limit" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Why is the exit tab so large? :hmmm:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2cmlh5z1rkn9ez1ckzv1z8k

Are there any other BGSs where the exit tab is larger than the sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 28, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Why is the exit tab so large? :hmmm:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2cmlh5z1rkn9ez1ckzv1z8k

Are there any other BGSs where the exit tab is larger than the sign?
Guess on my part (somebody from the area can either confirm/correct/clarify), but that exit tab was likely added later.  Had it been fabricated/erected at the same time as the main BGS; the width of the main panel would've been made to match the width of the wider exit tab.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 28, 2015, 11:50:07 AM
Wider than the sign, sure. Larger, no.

The one seen here is a good example of "wider." As a bonus, the exit tab contains an ampersand. (You can see another identical sign in the background.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.794001,-77.151114,3a,75y,273.8h,88.35t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8klvYXIaOze_zwKyh8ILpg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 28, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
I've seen a number of signs in Virginia where the exit number tab is wider than the sign itself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 28, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 28, 2015, 01:21:27 PM
I've seen a number of signs in Virginia where the exit number tab is wider than the sign itself.
Downside of having 3-digit exit numbers (4 if one includes the letter-suffix).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on January 28, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 28, 2015, 11:54:48 PM
I find this one interesting: http://goo.gl/maps/xXAib

It replaced this one: http://goo.gl/maps/Qfzxi
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on January 29, 2015, 09:51:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/dR5JI

https://goo.gl/maps/8egNw
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 09:54:20 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/j2AHj

I don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size - they are specified in the MUTCD (one for 24x24, 36x36, and 48x48), so my only guess would be to save money (the larger the banner the more it costs?). But that's not really the problem with this sign, it's more-so the fact that the banner (as small as it may be) is completely off-center compared to the US 1 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 09:54:20 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/j2AHj

I don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size - they are specified in the MUTCD (one for 24x24, 36x36, and 48x48), so my only guess would be to save money (the larger the banner the more it costs?). But that's not really the problem with this sign, it's more-so the fact that the banner (as small as it may be) is completely off-center compared to the US 1 shield.
IIRC, the larger banner size for 48" x 48" shields is a recent addition to the MUTCD.  It's a detail that will hopefully be incorporated into future MassDOT sign upgrade projects.   As for the banner being off-center, that's due to the posts that are used.  Centering the banner on the shield would require a special cross-member, which may affect the breakaway capability of the posts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 09:54:20 AMI don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size
I saw similar reassurance marker assemblies for NJ 24; so MA isn't the only state guilty of such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.
When was that project? The signs were definitely up by 2001.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 01:47:04 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 09:54:20 AMI don't really understand why Massachusetts refuses to use the appropriate banners for the shield size
I saw similar reassurance marker assemblies for NJ 24; so MA isn't the only state guilty of such.

Massachusetts is definitely not the only state who does it, but I've seen a lot of instances of this in Massachusetts compared to other states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 30, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf
Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.
When was that project? The signs were definitely up by 2001.
Gateway 1 (as the project was officially called) was completed about 1997 or 1998.  I recall being in Kelley Square shortly thereafter and noting how the MassHighway spec entrance sign to I-290 a half mile from me was more legible than the City's Gateway sign located only 500 feet from me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
I wish they would've used a different typeface (oh, and larger shields). I think it's cool Worcester put up their own signs, but that purpose is defeated if they are less legible than normal DOT signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2015, 03:22:27 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 30, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: roadman on January 30, 2015, 10:35:07 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 27, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Something tells me that this wasn't put up by MassDOT...

http://goo.gl/maps/qbtTf

Correct.  These signs were put up by the CIty of Worcester under their "Gateway" project.

When was that project? The signs were definitely up by 2001.

Gateway 1 (as the project was officially called) was completed about 1997 or 1998.  I recall being in Kelley Square shortly thereafter and noting how the MassHighway spec entrance sign to I-290 a half mile from me was more legible than the City's Gateway sign located only 500 feet from me.

Speaking of Kelley Square, that might just be the nuttiest intersection I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
Lincoln Square is nuttier, with its essentially useless tunnel. It made a lot more sense when it was northbound-only with access to Salisbury, Prescott, and Lincoln.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 30, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
Lincoln Square is nuttier, with its essentially useless tunnel. It made a lot more sense when it was northbound-only with access to Salisbury, Prescott, and Lincoln.

I'll admit, that tunnel looks like a waste, but Kelley Square looks like an absolute clusterfuck. At least Lincoln Square has some order to it. From what I've read about the Kelley Square, you don't even stop at the stop signs (you just keep going, since its Boston Massachusetts, and offensive driving is the only driving).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Zeffy,

Not sure if this was already mentioned or commented on on this thread or elsewhere; but for one traffic signal project, the engineer/designer got a little creative with using large shields but small cardinal banners and direction arrows.

One advance trailblazer assembly approaching the traffic signal (further down). (http://goo.gl/maps/IBBj8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Zeffy,

Not sure if this was already mentioned or commented on on this thread or elsewhere; but for one traffic signal project, the engineer/designer got a little creative with using large shields but small cardinal banners and direction arrows.

One advance trailblazer assembly approaching the traffic signal (further down). (http://goo.gl/maps/IBBj8)

Ugh, it just looks so out of proportion.  :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 30, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 30, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 30, 2015, 04:33:04 PM
Zeffy,

Not sure if this was already mentioned or commented on on this thread or elsewhere; but for one traffic signal project, the engineer/designer got a little creative with using large shields but small cardinal banners and direction arrows.

One advance trailblazer assembly approaching the traffic signal (further down). (http://goo.gl/maps/IBBj8)

Ugh, it just looks so out of proportion.  :ded:

I don't think it looks that bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 01, 2015, 01:01:14 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/Wu9IV

Never seen this sign before, but it looks old.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on February 01, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
^ Signs like those were the standard in Ontario until the '90s.  Ontario redid a lot of its signs during the 1990s when bilingual signage was first introduced in the GTA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on February 01, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 28, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:

(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/florida010/i-010_eb_exit_233_04.jpg)
Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 01, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on February 01, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 28, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:


Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.

I'm pretty sure you can help it ... You just make the sign wider.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on February 01, 2015, 06:08:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 01, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on February 01, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 28, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:


Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.

I'm pretty sure you can help it ... You just make the sign wider.

I can second that. I must say that BGS is very tiny  :-P

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on February 02, 2015, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 01, 2015, 05:50:27 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on February 01, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: Alex on January 28, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 28, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Larger width-wise then. :-P

The worst example that comes to mind to me is this sign on I-10 east in Florida:


Cannot be helped when the main exit sign only has a secondary or county route shield.  Exit 19 along I-77 in Virginia north of Hillsville is similar to this.

I'm pretty sure you can help it ... You just make the sign wider.
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 02, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: odditude on February 02, 2015, 09:41:30 AM
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).

Of course, here is an example where Trenton and Princeton should be signed (or Lawrenceville instead of Princeton) . Not sure why the advance signs before 1/2 a mile omit this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 02, 2015, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 02, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: odditude on February 02, 2015, 09:41:30 AM
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).
Of course, here is an example where Trenton and Princeton should be signed (or Lawrenceville instead of Princeton) . Not sure why the advance signs before 1/2 a mile omit this.
In Milford, CT; signage for the US 1 interchange w/I-95 (Exits 39A-B) (http://goo.gl/maps/ubKCQ) show no listed destinations whatsoever nor street name(s) for either direction of US 1.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on February 02, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 02, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: odditude on February 02, 2015, 09:41:30 AM
...as exemplified here (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.286887,-74.747813,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjvtQ4q9Mfd-EK8kecY6MA!2e0).

Of course, here is an example where Trenton and Princeton should be signed (or Lawrenceville instead of Princeton) . Not sure why the advance signs before 1/2 a mile omit this.
the actual exits (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.285876,-74.736167,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sm3H9RDhpmOiBaEId2V_brA!2e0) are 206 SOUTH / Trenton and 206 NORTH / Lawrenceville / Princeton.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on February 03, 2015, 06:41:06 AM
This sign in the foreground with the differing fonts:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi820.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz122%2Fnjroadfan%2FBest%2520Of%2FP5050007_zps863c9afc.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=1c03d5c5d705f61a5fe6b47920072ae5c297b191)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.

GARDEN STATE PARKWAY should have been the obvious clue where it was from.  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.

GARDEN STATE PARKWAY should have been the obvious clue where it was from.  :-P

Well I saw that after a few seconds, but everything else to me reads "Ontario"...longer than normal lane lines, shoulders with lighter-colored pavement, 4 carriageways, exit lanes that form another lane before they exit, deciduous trees, and so on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 03, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
Another tip-off it's not Toronto is the use of green signs over both carriageways. Ontario would have green over the one and blue over the other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 03, 2015, 12:38:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 03, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
I thought that image was from Toronto for a few moments.

GARDEN STATE PARKWAY should have been the obvious clue where it was from.  :-P

Well I saw that after a few seconds, but everything else to me reads "Ontario"...longer than normal lane lines, shoulders with lighter-colored pavement, 4 carriageways, exit lanes that form another lane before they exit, deciduous trees, and so on.

That could hold true elsewhere on the east coast. Ontario uses standard-length lines. In actuality, MTO practices are relatively similar to those of New York, New England, and PennDOT except for a few minor differences. Same cannot be said for PTA, NJTA, Suffolk County DPW, Buffalo DPW, Indiana Toll Road...

Tapered deceleration ramps are rare out here in general, with most DOTs and toll authorities forming an extra lane. Other than the GSP, the real hints that this is not Ontario are:

1. Green signs on outer carriageway. Ontario uses blue on local lanes for clarity (a good idea, IMO).
2. No high-mast lighting. 4-lane sections are pretty much limited to Toronto and all are well-lit.

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 03, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
Another tip-off it's not Toronto is the use of green signs over both carriageways. Ontario would have green over the one and blue over the other.

Beat me to it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on February 03, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but the NJ Turnpike uses 6" wide lane stripes, where Ontario uses the standard 4" (10 cm).  NJTA decided to use 25' long striping with 25' gaps for visibility purposes with long trucks, but I think the standard 10' long striping / 30' gap would have sufficed. 

Street-lighting and gantry design is my general cue at where something is at. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 03, 2015, 08:45:42 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on February 03, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but the NJ Turnpike uses 6" wide lane stripes, where Ontario uses the standard 4" (10 cm).  NJTA decided to use 25' long striping with 25' gaps for visibility purposes with long trucks, but I think the standard 10' long striping / 30' gap would have sufficed. 

Street-lighting and gantry design is my general cue at where something is at. 

However, the lane lines used by the NJTP are the same as used by ISTHA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
This (http://goo.gl/maps/wxO2c) sign has rather fat arrows. I'm not sure if I like it more or dislike it more...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 03, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 03, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
This (http://goo.gl/maps/wxO2c) sign has rather fat arrows. I'm not sure if I like it more or dislike it more...

You probably like it more than this one: http://goo.gl/maps/YCg2A

Your post reminded me of that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4½ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.
(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/felaktig-skylt.jpg)(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/korrekt-skylt.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 05, 2015, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: riiga on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4½ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.

A local variation of the same issue. Everything is correct, but just slightly different:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbAHxV1T.jpg&hash=1668753b4eadc05f560fc17d8456564abe13da3f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on February 05, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
Is that Transport?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 05, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: jbnv on February 05, 2015, 09:05:36 PM
Is that Transport?

Definitely not transport; doesn't look like DIN Mittelschrift either.

Where is that? Very unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 05, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
At Harvard, even the construction is genteel and cultured:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7406/16452093771_1733243666.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 05, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 05, 2015, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: riiga on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4½ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.

A local variation of the same issue. Everything is correct, but just slightly different:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbAHxV1T.jpg&hash=1668753b4eadc05f560fc17d8456564abe13da3f)

The font is SNV. Used in many eastern European countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNV_%28typeface%29

There's this one in Ontario:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Opeongo_Road_signs.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 06, 2015, 03:06:07 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 05, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 05, 2015, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: riiga on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
This odd sign has been up for about five years now. It's a little off with everything, but despite telling them about it (4½ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign. To the right is my illustration of what a proper sign should look like. Notice how the typeface and colors are a bit off, while the arrows look almost, but just almost correct.

A local variation of the same issue. Everything is correct, but just slightly different:

http://i.imgur.com/bAHxV1T.jpg

The font is SNV. Used in many eastern European countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNV_%28typeface%29

There's this one in Ontario:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Opeongo_Road_signs.jpg

Very cool. I've always wondered what the font was. I can see now that the "a" gives it away.

The sign is just north of Arlington, Washington along WA-530, about an hour north of Seattle (GMSV (http://goo.gl/Ea6CYY)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 06, 2015, 10:12:10 AM
Quote from: riiga on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
despite telling them about it (4½ years ago!), the municipality hasn't corrected the sign

Honestly, I would have ignored the request too, since the existing signs are almost exactly like the mock-ups you posted.  I have to stand on my head and squint to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on February 06, 2015, 05:31:19 PM
Drove by this one today. Older NY route shield with a different font.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.142847,-77.736028,3a,37.5y,189.03h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1spdyUWuaezGf6Dwsk3WNhhQ!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en

Probably won't be there for long. Although it is still signed as NY 386 Coldwater Rd. is maintained by Monroe County along with other parts of NY 386 that were transferred to the county.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 06, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
In my experience, non-state maintained roads in NY are MORE likely to have old signs, not less.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 06, 2015, 08:42:49 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on December 01, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: roadman on November 24, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
Old-school direction arrow (though the arrowhead's a bit small) going through the I-95 shield applied to a relatively-new MassDOT D6 "Paddle" sign (http://goo.gl/maps/wDJbP) in Waltham.  Another old-school attribute of this LGS is that it's 2-sided (pan the attached link).  For newer installations, MassDOT typically installs two separate single-sided D6 panels.

The lower D8 panel is somewhat oddly configured as well with the small upright arrow and the squeezing in of both the local & distant destinations.  For 2-destination listings, either a larger D8 panel (such has been done elsewhere) or a separate D6 installation for the I-95 South LGS would've been better IMHO.

Fortunately, since this installation is at a signalized intersection for a conventional roadway; normal traffic won't be traveling at a high rate of speed so the current D8 panel with the smallish arrow & lettering should suffice.

District 4 strikes again - probably a knockdown was replaced under either Accident Recovery or the sign maintenance contract, and they likely based the replacement legend off of an old sign card.
Update: I drove by that area over the long holiday weekend; new LGS' have since replaced the older-style LGS'.

While that one is now gone; there's another old-school layout on a fairly new D6 Paddle LGS (http://goo.gl/maps/zWb8Q) further north in Newburyport (at Exit 57 along MA 113).

Roadman, unless the districts were changed since the 1980s; Essex County's in District 5; so one can't blame District 4 for this one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NYhwyfan on February 07, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
New York State Route 265 square shield - City of Tonawanda, NY
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.016238,-78.878941,3a,75y,24.71h,91.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZTBS_UJI-dqoQfbxlztiLw!2e0

Instead of asking the NYSDOT to post a sign or replace one must have taken upon themselves to make their own
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on February 07, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
Tonawanda only knows how to make rectangular shields.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F6%2F63%2FInfamous_Tonawanda_Squares.jpg&hash=b8638fdd31a8e32069c7b74c3e312cdc302089d1)
Quote from: NYhwyfan on February 07, 2015, 10:17:53 AM
New York State Route 265 square shield - City of Tonawanda, NY
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.016238,-78.878941,3a,75y,24.71h,91.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZTBS_UJI-dqoQfbxlztiLw!2e0

Instead of asking the NYSDOT to post a sign or replace one must have taken upon themselves to make their own
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 07, 2015, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on February 07, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
Tonawanda only knows how to make rectangular shields.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F6%2F63%2FInfamous_Tonawanda_Squares.jpg&hash=b8638fdd31a8e32069c7b74c3e312cdc302089d1)

Apparently, they also don't know what color to paint edge lines on bike paths...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 07, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
Tonawanda is a city at the spot where the erected the square 265 shield, so signage is, unfortunately, their responsibility (NYSDOT rarely maintains anything in cities that isn't limited access).  Could we please teleport them to New England?  At least then their state route shields would be right...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on February 07, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Alpine Road near Stanford University. Bizarrely perpendicular to the road (no cross streets nearby).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgnSSk0s.jpg&hash=bc830f51f725bc293b5272750ed3ac3fcd2c9455)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 07, 2015, 06:06:03 PM
^^ That one takes the cake!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 07, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on February 07, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Alpine Road near Stanford University. Bizarrely perpendicular to the road (no cross streets nearby).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgnSSk0s.jpg&hash=bc830f51f725bc293b5272750ed3ac3fcd2c9455)

How about this?

http://goo.gl/maps/iNlZ3

Perpendicular to the road, with no cross street. Is it an advisory sign, or a speed limit sign? We'll never know.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on February 07, 2015, 10:38:04 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 07, 2015, 08:26:07 PM
How about this?

http://goo.gl/maps/iNlZ3

Perpendicular to the road, with no cross street. Is it an advisory sign, or a speed limit sign? We'll never know.

If you move up and rotate the image, there is a "gravel road" beside it.  Maybe??   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 08, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 06, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
In my experience, non-state maintained roads in NY are MORE likely to have old signs, not less.

Generally true, but until very recently, a stretch of NY 78 in Wyoming County had some stuff that was easily 40-50+ years old, including one of the last state route shields with NY in the hump. Sadly, that gem went away last summer. Wyoming County has done a major countywide signage upgrade to comply with the 2009 MUTCD, including replacing just about every all-uppercase name blade with mixed-case, making it so many county- or town-maintained highways have much newer signage than what is state-maintained, possibly due to the remote location. Actually, R4 and R6 in general have a boatload of old signs scattered around, while R1 and R5 replace anything with a speck of dust.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on February 09, 2015, 11:26:19 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on February 03, 2015, 06:41:06 AM
This sign in the foreground with the differing fonts:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi820.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz122%2Fnjroadfan%2FBest%2520Of%2FP5050007_zps863c9afc.jpg%7Eoriginal&hash=1c03d5c5d705f61a5fe6b47920072ae5c297b191)
That's intentional. PARKWAY is really the most important piece of information on that sign, since in NJ, it is "the parkway".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 09, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.059514,-75.326033,3a,15.7y,72.02h,96.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sF27zz3GdR0SHzp-fVbnW6g!2e0

Interesting only in the regard that Conshohocken is listed after Philadelphia, when it should be before (if destination legends have a rule that the cities should be listed in the order they are reached).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 09, 2015, 06:28:19 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 09, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.059514,-75.326033,3a,15.7y,72.02h,96.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sF27zz3GdR0SHzp-fVbnW6g!2e0

Interesting only in the regard that Conshohocken is listed after Philadelphia, when it should be before (if destination legends have a rule that the cities should be listed in the order they are reached).
PennDOT's logic (and I use that term very loosely) is that the destinations are listed in the same sequence as the route shields.

In all fairness, PennDOT isn't the only one that does such.  Note: this BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/ZOl6R) in Burlington, MA where Winchester (the US 3 South destination) is closer than Peabody (the I-95 North destination).

This BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/IXZ52) shows that PennDOT did occasionally use Series C or D fonts for destinations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 10, 2015, 09:56:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.093198,-75.305603,3a,15y,258.19h,90.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_SIoRw395CWFiqvHwdD3aQ!2e0

Center-aligned exit tab. The sign itself looks pretty recent too! Unfortunately, if you try and get closer to it, you'll notice that the sign has been removed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 10, 2015, 12:07:58 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 10, 2015, 09:56:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.093198,-75.305603,3a,15y,258.19h,90.19t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_SIoRw395CWFiqvHwdD3aQ!2e0

Center-aligned exit tab. The sign itself looks pretty recent too! Unfortunately, if you try and get closer to it, you'll notice that the sign has been removed.
If memory serves, that particular BGS (the old one) was an early 90s replacement for the original 70s-era porcelain BGS (that featured button-copy lettering but not for the I-76 shield) that was damaged/destroyed in an accident.  The center-aligned tab was a match-in-kind for the original BGS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: akotchi on February 10, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 09, 2015, 06:28:19 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 09, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.059514,-75.326033,3a,15.7y,72.02h,96.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sF27zz3GdR0SHzp-fVbnW6g!2e0

Interesting only in the regard that Conshohocken is listed after Philadelphia, when it should be before (if destination legends have a rule that the cities should be listed in the order they are reached).
PennDOT's logic (and I use that term very loosely) is that the destinations are listed in the same sequence as the route shields.

In all fairness, PennDOT isn't the only one that does such.  Note: this BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/ZOl6R) in Burlington, MA where Winchester (the US 3 South destination) is closer than Peabody (the I-95 North destination).

This BGS (http://goo.gl/maps/IXZ52) shows that PennDOT did occasionally use Series C or D fonts for destinations.
In both of those cases, the destination of the higher-order highway (the Interstate in both cases) is listed first.  Perhaps that is the reasoning, but I do not think that practice is required.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on February 12, 2015, 12:55:35 AM
New in Hayward, Calif.:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRekvHjB.jpg&hash=ee8d5b9d28930872c5d5d2c1656c55a38b1cb7f7)

Story here:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/02/11/snarky-road-signs-hayward-speeding-drivers-pedestrians-facebook/
QuoteTo get people's attention, the city has put up a few new signs that are a bit snarky. Along with the posted speed limit, one of the signs also reads "It's a speed limit, not a suggestion."  Another sign gives helpful advice about driving down a hill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on February 12, 2015, 01:03:57 AM
Already posted here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14734
But that's really a fork of this thread, since 'quirky' fits under 'unique, odd, or interesting'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on February 12, 2015, 10:12:51 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLFh8ahz.png&hash=95f14845962d7cdcd2073e41c9c7ade1b1a3efcd) (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=36.054338,-98.807387&spn=0.024877,0.049567&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=36.054935,-98.816141&panoid=yUN-ijn9Y82dXgUH-9XtWg&cbp=12,19.08,,2,6.29)
No comment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on February 13, 2015, 08:30:50 AM
Quote from: NE2 on February 12, 2015, 10:12:51 PM
[image]
No comment.
the bolt head makes it look like a lowercase "i", for added silly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 13, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
At least they worded it correctly. Lots of people these days seem to think "Drive Safe" is correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 13, 2015, 09:12:28 PM
Is this common?

http://goo.gl/maps/8rg8X
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 15, 2015, 04:09:00 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 13, 2015, 09:12:28 PM
Is this common?

http://goo.gl/maps/8rg8X

It has the standard BC dashed border (indicating a truck-related sign), but I don't see the sign in any of the sign chapters (as published by the BCMOT).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 16, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
Just outside Victoria BC. Should be somewhat self explanatory as to what the arrow means (based on the environment visible (HINT: right turn doesn't stop)), I've just never seen it used for a stop sign before (the plaque is supposed to be used under a yield sign, per the BCMOT roundabout signing manual (http://goo.gl/ovzawJ) (page 4)).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeoxR5W2.png&hash=e83c36af25953271ef7538aaec213d3b4ed92add)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 17, 2015, 03:04:24 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 22, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
Also, Gurley, AL has street name signs that are black with white lettering. At one end, there is a black "G" in a white square.
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2d3dkfz1rdl76zikzphzbf
Also, does anyone know what font they use? It looks similar to Times New Roman.

The font for the street name is Goudy. The "G" is Century Schoolbook.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 17, 2015, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 17, 2015, 03:04:24 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 22, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
Also, Gurley, AL has street name signs that are black with white lettering. At one end, there is a black "G" in a white square.
http://www.instantstreetview.com/2d3dkfz1rdl76zikzphzbf
Also, does anyone know what font they use? It looks similar to Times New Roman.

The font for the street name is Goudy. The "G" is Century Schoolbook.
Ah, okay. Thanks!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 17, 2015, 09:41:48 PM
Borderless "No Left Turn" sign at a hospital here in Huntsville. I'm not sure if this counts as a "design error" or not:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/16380296227_41e5aa3c88.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXtiot)Borderless No Left Turn Sign (https://flic.kr/p/qXtiot) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And right across the driveway it's at is this rather weird sign:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/16378758190_4c00c29804.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXkqbA)Strange Exit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/qXkqbA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on February 20, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
Buried on a side street of a small west central Ohio town:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7405/13776471574_8cab6b7927.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y)P1030553 (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 20, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
This photo was not taken in Oregon, but rather in Washington, and it's of a sign that was installed three weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCl7Sliw.jpg&hash=9e937172e6a663bf1e111a2b0c4c59e05d3c6015)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dcbjms on February 21, 2015, 07:08:44 AM
Well that solves the problem of "does the speed limit still apply during summer school?".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 21, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 20, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
This photo was not taken in Oregon, but rather in Washington, and it's of a sign that was installed three weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCl7Sliw.jpg&hash=9e937172e6a663bf1e111a2b0c4c59e05d3c6015)

What defines "when children are present" though? If their is one child 50 m away from the sign, does that mean motorists now have to go 20?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 21, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 21, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 20, 2015, 03:00:52 PM
This photo was not taken in Oregon, but rather in Washington, and it's of a sign that was installed three weeks ago:

What defines "when children are present" though? If their is one child 50 m away from the sign, does that mean motorists now have to go 20?

Well, there's nothing written in stone. Supposedly it's when they're walking around outside the school. If you drive by and the kids are playing in the yard, generally you're safe. If you fly by at 40 while the kids are showing up to school, you're probably gonna get a ticket though. In general, cops don't patrol these zones. Most school zones are flashing. Some didn't have any signs and that's why these went up.



I want to make it clear that I posted the photo of the above sign because it omits the word "LIMIT" a la Oregon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on February 21, 2015, 04:25:55 PM

Quote from: busman_49 on February 20, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
Buried on a side street of a small west central Ohio town:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7405/13776471574_8cab6b7927.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y)P1030553 (https://flic.kr/p/mZo22Y) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Where is that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
This US 72 shield seems to be a bit off for some reason:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8609/16419850848_b0a53ec19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG)US 231/US 431/ US 72 (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on February 21, 2015, 09:40:42 PM
It's a squished wide shield. But what they squished isn't quite the same as the perfect '70-spec shields next to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 22, 2015, 12:19:54 AM
In Hopewell, Virginia:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.298005,-77.278403,3a,15y,9.04h,93.15t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s04qoWY4i9kaZNNZ20IxMXA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Neddyfram on February 22, 2015, 02:44:05 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
This US 72 shield seems to be a bit off for some reason:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8609/16419850848_b0a53ec19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG)US 231/US 431/ US 72 (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
For some reason that US72's sign's sticking-out parts at the top of the shield reminds me of the devil...

Quote from: US71 on December 05, 2013, 11:07:26 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7150%2F6602560053_4c0e7a2b58_z_d.jpg&hash=ebdaf2b26b1b2b737dd44d8442391ef17ed15e90)
Ugly fonts in Oklahoma

That US64 sign looks cool with that font.

Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
Just outside Victoria BC. Should be somewhat self explanatory as to what the arrow means (based on the environment visible (HINT: right turn doesn't stop)), I've just never seen it used for a stop sign before (the plaque is supposed to be used under a yield sign, per the BCMOT roundabout signing manual (http://goo.gl/ovzawJ) (page 4)).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeoxR5W2.png&hash=e83c36af25953271ef7538aaec213d3b4ed92add)
Another thing I noticed is that's a British styled arrow
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 22, 2015, 03:07:50 AM
Quote from: Neddyfram on February 22, 2015, 02:44:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2015, 02:11:36 PM
Just outside Victoria BC. Should be somewhat self explanatory as to what the arrow means (based on the environment visible (HINT: right turn doesn't stop)), I've just never seen it used for a stop sign before (the plaque is supposed to be used under a yield sign, per the BCMOT roundabout signing manual (http://goo.gl/ovzawJ) (page 4)).

Another thing I noticed is that's a British styled arrow

Hardly surprising -- about 6-tenths are natives of the British isles (including me).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 22, 2015, 05:20:15 PM
I know the image is utter shit (dashcam footage FTW) but here's a sign I saw that doesn't seem to correspond to any sort of established signing standard, though I still like it:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmxorzGm.png&hash=89cf1f112f224b4cda35c2333f85290c0e5baf8a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dcbjms on February 23, 2015, 12:45:19 AM
School crossing colors for pedestrian crossings?  Now that's interesting, for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on February 23, 2015, 09:01:51 AM
Quote from: 6a on February 21, 2015, 04:25:55 PM

Quote from: busman_49 on February 20, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
Buried on a side street of a small west central Ohio town:
<snip>
Where is that?

Arcanum, Ohio
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on February 23, 2015, 08:29:45 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
This US 72 shield seems to be a bit off for some reason:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8609/16419850848_b0a53ec19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG)US 231/US 431/ US 72 (https://flic.kr/p/r1Y2AG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Looks like it came from the world of Monsters, Inc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 25, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 22, 2015, 05:20:15 PM
I know the image is utter shit (dashcam footage FTW) but here's a sign I saw that doesn't seem to correspond to any sort of established signing standard, though I still like it:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmxorzGm.png&hash=89cf1f112f224b4cda35c2333f85290c0e5baf8a)

There is a standard sign in the 2009 MUTCD, "turning vehicles yield to pedestrians" sign (R10-15) that is substantially similar to the intent of this sign. Subbing the yield symbol for a stop symbol would exactly duplicate the meaning of this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 26, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 16, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
I can't decide which thread is the right place for this one. Spotted it yesterday on Seminary Road in Alexandria, Virginia, and passed it again today, allowing me to get a picture.

The sign is trying to tell you that the far right lane (the one coming in from my right on the other side of the island) is an option lane at the traffic light up ahead past the dump truck, the left lane is left-only at the same light, and then beyond the light the left thru lane goes straight over the main overpass and the two lanes to the right of that split to the right onto a different overpass to provide access to I-395 northbound (via a left turn further up the road). Going straight through the light in the far right lane puts you in a lane leading to southbound I-395.

How effective the sign is at conveying all that, I don't know, given that I know the area well even with the current construction project. But the sign certainly seems to qualify as a strange one to me given how it appears to depict two right-turn-only lanes slamming into a straight-thru lane.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2Ffddb374ddfe4df9cb71eb0fea0cb1a89_zpsf55ebc6a.jpg&hash=4a1f5b28a1ebd3f2a108ef45670a85df30afa009)

I posted the above in January. I just passed that sign again today and found it has been modified. The new version, seen below, is more accurate but is still weird-looking. I didn't report the old sign to VDOT or to the City of Alexandria, so I have no idea whether someone complained or whether there was a crash or whatever.

(The sign in this picture is actually in the background of the first picture to the right of the dump truck, but both signs were and are identical. I just had an easier time getting a picture of the second one today while stopped at the red light. There was enough traffic that I couldn't really slow down to get a picture of the first sign.)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F9f106997fdd195f88a933dcffc0768e0_zpsa6e3e5eb.jpg&hash=a2cd819c0f2c0ef0ebf6379094e56469ffd98f9f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on February 26, 2015, 08:48:09 PM
And that sign overhangs the sidewalk.  Doesn't look like a problem here, but it seemed worth pointing out as this issue has been discussed in the Poor Placement thread.

Regarding the sign itself, I would make sure the right turn arrow shafts have long straight segments below the curves, and the left turn arrow curves left very near the bottom of the sign, at the same height of the lower branch of the rightmost arrow. Also, the two leftmost right arrows should maybe curve less than the one to their right, if those lanes indeed go to different places.

Or, alternatively, use standard signs that only deal with one intersection at a time, and use small guide signs on span wire before the first intersection for lane assignment beyond that intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on February 27, 2015, 04:12:03 AM
I've known for a while about a AAA-installed wayfinding sign in Alexandria, VA, located at the intersection of Prince & Commerce Streets. (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.805035,-77.052569&spn=0.002625,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.805034,-77.05462&panoid=ElCgM_9-axNkvSE5ZCzSHw&cbp=11,295.73,,1,10.38)  What I didn't know about until recently that there were two more remaining (3 in total left of out of the original 21, circa 1930's), located at S Pitt & Wolfe Streets (https://www.google.com/maps?q=s+pitt+and+wolfe+&hl=en&ll=38.801499,-77.045681&spn=0.002625,0.013078&sll=38.801356,-77.045467&layer=c&cbp=11,54.31,,1,7.25&cbll=38.801381,-77.045672&hnear=S+Pitt+St+%26+Wolfe+St,+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&t=m&z=17&panoid=a35H967hjjwBA21Pb-tNVA) and Cameron & N Columbus Streets. (https://goo.gl/maps/5ltRa)  Here's a short blog article (http://jay.typepad.com/william_jay/2010/07/old-town-alexandria-historical-plaques-aaa-road-signs.html) about the history, along with non-street view images of the first and third signs.  Definitely not flashy, but easily some of the oldest wayfinding signage left in Virginia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 27, 2015, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: HTM Duke on February 27, 2015, 04:12:03 AM
I've known for a while about a AAA-installed wayfinding sign in Alexandria, VA, located at the intersection of Prince & Commerce Streets. (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.805035,-77.052569&spn=0.002625,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.805034,-77.05462&panoid=ElCgM_9-axNkvSE5ZCzSHw&cbp=11,295.73,,1,10.38)  What I didn't know about until recently that there were two more remaining (3 in total left of out of the original 21, circa 1930's), located at S Pitt & Wolfe Streets (https://www.google.com/maps?q=s+pitt+and+wolfe+&hl=en&ll=38.801499,-77.045681&spn=0.002625,0.013078&sll=38.801356,-77.045467&layer=c&cbp=11,54.31,,1,7.25&cbll=38.801381,-77.045672&hnear=S+Pitt+St+%26+Wolfe+St,+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&t=m&z=17&panoid=a35H967hjjwBA21Pb-tNVA) and Cameron & N Columbus Streets. (https://goo.gl/maps/5ltRa)  Here's a short blog article (http://jay.typepad.com/william_jay/2010/07/old-town-alexandria-historical-plaques-aaa-road-signs.html) about the history, along with non-street view images of the first and third signs.  Definitely not flashy, but easily some of the oldest wayfinding signage left in Virginia.

Damn. All the times I've driven through Old Town and I've never noticed any of these (recognizing when I use Commerce Street it's usually night and I'm looking for a parking space and not paying attention to road signs). Thanks for posting that.

There's a lot of interesting historical stuff to be found in Old Town dating back to colonial times. One I recall from the fourth-grade Virginia history program many years ago was "gossip mirrors" on houses (essentially a mirror hangs from an upstairs window so the resident can see who's outside on the sidewalk). But aside from the cutouts on US-1, this is the first I recall historic road signs, and these are more in keeping with the "historic" theme than the cutouts are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 27, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
Something tells me that this sign assembly (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.837206,-69.285977&spn=0.18,0.3&cbll=44.837206,-69.285977&layer=c&panoid=zlhaccaISkqBc5GD7OiA5A&cbp=,125.31,,0,3.949997&output=classic&dg=ntvb) is not state spec'd.  Interesting-looking US 2 shield & font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 27, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 27, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
Interesting-looking US 2 shield & font.

I disagree - that looks like Helvetica, and the shield itself is nasty looking. Blehhhhhhh!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 27, 2015, 07:45:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 27, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 27, 2015, 04:24:15 PM
Interesting-looking US 2 shield & font.

I disagree - that looks like Helvetica, and the shield itself is nasty looking. Blehhhhhhh!

Yup, non-standard for sure. I don't recall a large white border on the edges of US hwy signs either. I don't understand why so many signs use Helvetica. There are many other fonts out there (not including highway fonts) that look waayy better than Helvetica IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 28, 2015, 12:17:01 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/xUfSt

Definitely a MUTCD violation, but not worst for sure, not a design error of any type, so I'll post it here. Looks like something you'd see out of New Brunswick.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on February 28, 2015, 12:41:42 AM
I think a significant deviation from whatever MUTCD was in effect when the sign was designed is automatically a design error.  This is... a poorly designed correction to an erroneous sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 28, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
^^ So no railroad track there?  23' min from the top of the track is the recommended clearance for a bridge over a railroad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 28, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
^^ So no railroad track there?  23' min from the top of the track is the recommended clearance for a bridge over a railroad.
There is a Norfolk Southern line right next to the school, but I don't see why they had to put a sign for drivers in the school's parking lot warning them about the height though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on February 28, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 28, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
^^ So no railroad track there?  23' min from the top of the track is the recommended clearance for a bridge over a railroad.
There is a Norfolk Southern line right next to the school, but I don't see why they had to put a sign for drivers in the school's parking lot warning them about the height though.


Perhaps they decided to be cute like MDOT and put one on every bloddy bridge, including the top of a 4 level stack so show how high the top roadway is from the bottom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 28, 2015, 06:53:42 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.

This goes back 30 years, but I seem to recall many high-low clearance signs along I-40 in Texas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on February 28, 2015, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7083/6921028234_89bbfe6ac7_b.jpg)
(from my flickr)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 01, 2015, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
I haven't seen a "low clearance" sign with this large of a height anywhere else, so...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8656/16467029937_aee336b30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig)23.5 Foot Clearance (https://flic.kr/p/r68Qig) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This is located on one of the supports for the pedestrian bridge behind my school.

Why are the feet in Series C and the inches in Series D?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 03, 2015, 08:41:15 AM
I like the setup of the I-71 pull-through, though some may argue that it isn't quite right.  Also digging the exit 17 sign mounted to the bridge:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8613/16693160621_808ca0a936.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a)I-71 NB at I-275, Cincinnati, OH (05) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on March 03, 2015, 08:41:15 AM
I like the setup of the I-71 pull-through, though some may argue that it isn't quite right.  Also digging the exit 17 sign mounted to the bridge:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8613/16693160621_808ca0a936.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a)I-71 NB at I-275, Cincinnati, OH (05) (https://flic.kr/p/rr7P5a) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr

Dancing arrows. The geniuses [/sarcasm] who wrote the current MUTCD think that's confusing to drivers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on March 03, 2015, 04:15:32 PM
Perhaps this comes from living in Ohio, proud home of dancing arrows, but I don't see a big problem with that sign. Why use one three times wider just to convey the same information?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
It just looks lazy to me. Like they accidentally made the sign too narrow and had to accommodate their fuck-up by rotating the arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 03, 2015, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
They accidentally frugally made the sign too narrow no wider than it needed to be and had to accommodate their fuck-up point clearly at the correct lanes by rotating the arrows.

Fixed for you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

:bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

:bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

:bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.

I completely agree with you. Motorists that can't figure out the lanes indicated by dancing arrows probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.  There were some interesting dancing arrows signs in the Oklahoma City area quite a few years ago but I haven't been able to find the signs on Google maps.  The signs indicated the left two lanes, but the sign was over the left shoulder with two dancing arrows pointing downward to the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

:bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.

I completely agree with you. Motorists that can't figure out the lanes indicated by dancing arrows probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.  There were some interesting dancing arrows signs in the Oklahoma City area quite a few years ago but I haven't been able to find the signs on Google maps.  The signs indicated the left two lanes, but the sign was over the left shoulder with two dancing arrows pointing downward to the right.

No argument about roads is complete without somebody claiming "if a driver can't understand **fill in the blank** they shouldn't have a licence". The point is, there's superior alternatives that cost a hair more -- the cost reduction from using dancing arrows is semantics. Be frugal, not cheap.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Here's the dancing arrows sign in Oklahoma I was talking about before. Courtesy of okhighways.com
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okhighways.com%2F041103%2Fi235exit1e.JPG&hash=90759a6301fbe83014eebce9b58b4f0b00439265)

I believe that there are a lot of projects, not just signing projects, but upkeep of highways in general, that need to be done immediately. Crumbling bridges, poor pavement conditions, bottlenecks from inadequate capacity, all of it. Saving money in signing practices, even if it's reducing the size of signs that span the entire width of the highway just so the arrows are centered over a lane, contributes to making more funds available for other crucial highway projects.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 03, 2015, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 03, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 06:06:58 PM
Crazy Ohioans and your lazily placed arrows. There's a reason they aren't allowed anymore.

:bigass:

Yep. Because somebody, or a group of somebodies, at FHWA is anal-retentive.

I completely agree with you. Motorists that can't figure out the lanes indicated by dancing arrows probably shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car.  There were some interesting dancing arrows signs in the Oklahoma City area quite a few years ago but I haven't been able to find the signs on Google maps.  The signs indicated the left two lanes, but the sign was over the left shoulder with two dancing arrows pointing downward to the right.

No argument about roads is complete without somebody claiming "if a driver can't understand **fill in the blank** they shouldn't have a licence". The point is, there's superior alternatives that cost a hair more -- the cost reduction from using dancing arrows is semantics. Be frugal, not cheap.

The thing with dancing arrows is also that they were rarely (if ever used) in the northeast and other regions. Out here, downward-slanting arrows meant the same thing as upward-slanting arrows, except they were used if the main movement curved. I remember going somewhere with the dancing arrows for the first time and it took my parents (both of whom went to grad school) a while to figure out (as in they had to reach the gore). The decision distance is too short.

That's part of why they were banned altogether: downward-slanting arrows have different meanings in different parts of the country and it's best to limit confusion. Heck, two down arrows over the same lane is probably better than the slants because that notation was used over a larger part of the country and there's less room for interpretation.

The posted OK example should have just used a pull-through or had the other 2 signs shifted 12 feet to the right. From the point of the everyday driver not used to such notation, it may be confusing, especially if they're familiar with the old NYSDOT use of downward slants.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 03, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Here's the dancing arrows sign in Oklahoma I was talking about before. Courtesy of okhighways.com
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okhighways.com%2F041103%2Fi235exit1e.JPG&hash=90759a6301fbe83014eebce9b58b4f0b00439265)

That exit direction sign is badly placed.  Where's the exit?  Move that sign to wherever the hell exit 2E actually is, and move the other signs to the right a bit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 03, 2015, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Here's the dancing arrows sign in Oklahoma I was talking about before. Courtesy of okhighways.com
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.okhighways.com%2F041103%2Fi235exit1e.JPG&hash=90759a6301fbe83014eebce9b58b4f0b00439265)

That exit direction sign is badly placed.  Where's the exit?  Move that sign to wherever the hell exit 2E actually is, and move the other signs to the right a bit.

Honestly I don't think that having arrows on the pull-thru is necessary.  That'd be the ideal, no arrows at all.

Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.

Instead of banning dancing arrows altogether, the MUTCD should specify their use instead of resorting to monstrous signs that span the ever increasing number of lanes in roadways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 03, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.
I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fny%2Fi-787%2Fs.jpg&hash=4e97fdc948f79f21f985f513e5e9b9839a803b01)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 03, 2015, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 03, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.
I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fny%2Fi-787%2Fs.jpg&hash=4e97fdc948f79f21f985f513e5e9b9839a803b01)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/

I agree. I'd much rather see this instead of all that extra green space just to make a rectangular sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 03, 2015, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 27, 2015, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: HTM Duke on February 27, 2015, 04:12:03 AM
I've known for a while about a AAA-installed wayfinding sign in Alexandria, VA, located at the intersection of Prince & Commerce Streets. (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=38.805035,-77.052569&spn=0.002625,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.805034,-77.05462&panoid=ElCgM_9-axNkvSE5ZCzSHw&cbp=11,295.73,,1,10.38)  What I didn't know about until recently that there were two more remaining (3 in total left of out of the original 21, circa 1930's), located at S Pitt & Wolfe Streets (https://www.google.com/maps?q=s+pitt+and+wolfe+&hl=en&ll=38.801499,-77.045681&spn=0.002625,0.013078&sll=38.801356,-77.045467&layer=c&cbp=11,54.31,,1,7.25&cbll=38.801381,-77.045672&hnear=S+Pitt+St+%26+Wolfe+St,+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&t=m&z=17&panoid=a35H967hjjwBA21Pb-tNVA) and Cameron & N Columbus Streets. (https://goo.gl/maps/5ltRa)  Here's a short blog article (http://jay.typepad.com/william_jay/2010/07/old-town-alexandria-historical-plaques-aaa-road-signs.html) about the history, along with non-street view images of the first and third signs.  Definitely not flashy, but easily some of the oldest wayfinding signage left in Virginia.

Damn. All the times I've driven through Old Town and I've never noticed any of these (recognizing when I use Commerce Street it's usually night and I'm looking for a parking space and not paying attention to road signs). Thanks for posting that.

There's a lot of interesting historical stuff to be found in Old Town dating back to colonial times. One I recall from the fourth-grade Virginia history program many years ago was "gossip mirrors" on houses (essentially a mirror hangs from an upstairs window so the resident can see who's outside on the sidewalk). But aside from the cutouts on US-1, this is the first I recall historic road signs, and these are more in keeping with the "historic" theme than the cutouts are.

The Prince/Commerce sign is pretty interesting.  Mileage signs to Winchester and New Market (both towns are along the I-81 corridor).  My guess is that the routing tells people to go along Commerce Street which runs into Duke.  Duke Street becomes Little River Turnpike and gets you into Fairfax.  In Fairfax, you can continue straight along what is now US 50 towards Winchester.  Or you can follow what is now "Lee Highway" (pre-Civil War known as Warrenton Road, now the US 29 to US 211) to New Market.   

It's interesting that they chose to highlight relatively far away cities.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 03, 2015, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 10:02:48 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 03, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.

I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fny%2Fi-787%2Fs.jpg&hash=4e97fdc948f79f21f985f513e5e9b9839a803b01)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/

I agree. I'd much rather see this instead of all that extra green space just to make a rectangular sign.

Hmm. I don't know what to think about that sign.

Here's an alternative that might shave costs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTrXb4o2.png&hash=98fecbecbf53c7878f5bc5427a7ee47bdfccb693)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 04, 2015, 12:05:51 AM
Not a road sign, but might as well be:

http://goo.gl/maps/tHdGA

Looks official to me  :clap:

2 km north of the US border in BC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on March 04, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
I can't say that I've ever seen an angled wayfinding sign anywhere else in Virginia.

VA-249 near Quntion, VA. (https://goo.gl/maps/Z4hUW)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 04, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
The top-hat design on the 787 sign (specimens exist(ed) also on I-87 in NY iIrc, and I-95 in MA) is clear and saves metal and wind load.  The ODOT I-71 sign with "dancing" arrows as shown should not be a problem either.  There are no lanes sharing arrows which is the place where dancing arrows are usually (and liberally) used in Ohio.  There really isn't much wrong with that sign at all.  If the MUTCD police were to demand an immediate correction, I'd just take off the arrows for spite and leave it as a pull-through without arrows.  The exit-only lanes are clearly marked and departing already. 

Some of the anal retentive things in the MUTCD are really annoying.  How do they cook? Like this guy?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codiekitty.com%2FFile%2FQuickies%2F2012%2Fphilhartman.jpg&hash=97d0954632f33125ab4548d33d99d3767c7aeccb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 04, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: HTM Duke on March 04, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
I can't say that I've ever seen an angled wayfinding sign anywhere else in Virginia.

VA-249 near Quntion, VA. (https://goo.gl/maps/Z4hUW)
This used to be a standard for parks and such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 04, 2015, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 04, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: HTM Duke on March 04, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
I can't say that I've ever seen an angled wayfinding sign anywhere else in Virginia.

VA-249 near Quntion, VA. (https://goo.gl/maps/Z4hUW)
This used to be a standard for parks and such.
Alabama has several of these, and they still use them to an extent.
This one (and another one just up the road) replaced some button-copy ones of the same design:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/@34.588363,-86.980379,-9.97h,11.38p,3z
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 04, 2015, 11:45:00 AM
I know this is a double post, but these AL 20 shields seem to be a bit off:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/@34.60905,-86.977785,45.34h,9.19p,2z

To me, it appears that they used a 3di shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 04, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 04, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
Seems like a slightly modified version of the standard lane control sign, indicating what each lane is for.  In NJ they usually show a line between each arrow showing the lane divisions, but otherwise I always thought it was a fairly normal sign at intersections. (Like what Zeffy posted)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 01:10:07 PM
Is it the location of the sign or the sign itself? I'm very familiar with this version of the lane control sign, but I don't usually see it posted in the central median.

EDIT: Just down the street from me:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU6IJClP.png&hash=8e6b91033b65948815d14e1fc378466576c4583f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 04, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 03, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on March 03, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
Personally I think NYSDOT did the dancing arrows the right way: usually at the gore, showing a higher speed ramp or split.
I think NYSDOT did dancing arrow avoidance the right way:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fny%2Fi-787%2Fs.jpg&hash=4e97fdc948f79f21f985f513e5e9b9839a803b01)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-787/

Yeah, I like that one and the other examples I've seen from New York.

As for the Oklahoma example posted, the exit sign for 1E needs to be mounted on the bridge, since that's where it appears the exit ramp actually begins.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 02:21:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 01:10:07 PM
Is it the location of the sign or the sign itself? I'm very familiar with this version of the lane control sign, but I don't usually see it posted in the central median.

....

It was the sign itself I found interesting. I had not seen one that looked like that before. The style Zeffy linked looks more typical of what I'm used to seeing, although I can't say off the top of my head I've seen one with a U-turn arrow of that sort (although, having said that, I should acknowledge the weird-looking arrows on the sign outside the Holiday Inn on Eisenhower Avenue in Alexandria: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.801469,-77.073071,3a,75y,359.09h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_UegbTPEd4rPovajWvBX6Q!2e0 )

Given your location, maybe it's more of a West Coast thing in general? The furthest south I've ever been on the West Coast is YVR Airport.



Regarding dancing arrows, there's this monstrosity in Maryland that provides an extreme example:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.798236,-77.019072,3a,75y,149.98h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjGqTlv14IHCmpDdWyTdkiA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on March 04, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 04, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0

AFAIK, the sign 1995hoo is talking about is definitely a California thing as it carries its own sign code, R73-5 (spec can be found at www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/engineering/control-devices/specs/R73-5.pdf) and Caltrans notes that it does not have a MUTCD equivalent.  It's possible the sign has been adopted by other states but I am not 100% sure about that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2015, 03:09:54 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on March 04, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 04, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0

AFAIK, the sign 1995hoo is talking about is definitely a California thing as it carries its own sign code, R73-5 (spec can be found at www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/engineering/control-devices/specs/R73-5.pdf) and Caltrans notes that it does not have a MUTCD equivalent.  It's possible the sign has been adopted by other states but I am not 100% sure about that.

Most definitely. In Washington, when there is two left turn lanes and one lane allows U-turns, this is the only sign (so far as I know) that is used.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on March 04, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
This is an extreme example, I know...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F04%2Fda4455883c797d0f1c915d619823dd4a.jpg&hash=705895ec4eea04d54340480c7c0a46f052efd609)

Edit: some version of that u-turn sign has been popping up here in a handful of places they're actually allowed

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F04%2F54b06b37968d814165b3bd25982649c8.jpg&hash=3475a62393e5181ba75193bfb28b56d1576f7e93)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: djsinco on March 04, 2015, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: 6a on March 04, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
This is an extreme example, I know...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F04%2Fda4455883c797d0f1c915d619823dd4a.jpg&hash=705895ec4eea04d54340480c7c0a46f052efd609)

Edit: some version of that u-turn sign has been popping up here in a handful of places they're actually allowed

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F04%2F54b06b37968d814165b3bd25982649c8.jpg&hash=3475a62393e5181ba75193bfb28b56d1576f7e93)
Until I realized that truck was being towed, I thought it was going the wrong way!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 04, 2015, 06:52:18 PM
Quote from: 6a on March 04, 2015, 05:40:19 PM
This is an extreme example, I know...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F04%2Fda4455883c797d0f1c915d619823dd4a.jpg&hash=705895ec4eea04d54340480c7c0a46f052efd609)

Yeah, I remember seeing those things. Until the mid-2000s, there was an Exit Only sign for US 33 East over on the EB side a couple miles east of here with a down arrow slanting to the left (until the patch seen here was installed (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.935054,-82.934862,3a,73.5y,171.36h,82.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sDhdrxebhAdzyqWgZol_mcw!2e0)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 05, 2015, 02:24:19 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on March 04, 2015, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 04, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 04, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
I saw the white sign seen here in a dashcam video posted on a YouTube channel to which I subscribe, so I asked the guy where it was. The sign in question is the white sign on the median. I found it interesting simply because I do not ever recall having seen such a sign. Maybe they're common out west?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.139328,-117.093403,3a,75y,39.45h,73.93t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUz9Ub9BEJTo82UeAHM6bew!2e0

We have something similar here, though I don't recall many others:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.505806,-74.845533,3a,57.6y,67.99h,91.02t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3mQZR_B6AUIxO56RIij3ww!2e0

AFAIK, the sign 1995hoo is talking about is definitely a California thing as it carries its own sign code, R73-5 (spec can be found at www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/engineering/control-devices/specs/R73-5.pdf) and Caltrans notes that it does not have a MUTCD equivalent.  It's possible the sign has been adopted by other states but I am not 100% sure about that.

There are a couple different styles of that sign in use in Nevada. I think NDOT has a standard sign for it, and some municipalities have their own slight variation (some versions, possibly including NDOT's, include the unnecessary and slightly erroneous text "on left arrow only").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2015, 10:48:26 AM
We have something similar here in Huntsville..
The older design:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.704057,-86.587556&spn=0.000699,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.704057,-86.587556&panoid=YwV1sK9J3DFaX7u0dg3bxQ&cbp=12,327.52,,2,-28.25
The newer design:
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=34.691307,-86.581326&spn=0.000703,0.001032&t=h&z=21&layer=c&cbll=34.691307,-86.581326&panoid=3MiK50JGvvXJtnU2wgBYyw&cbp=12,142.93,,2,-13.8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 10:55:05 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.634332,-74.01607,3a,32.7y,2.03h,91.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sti3LOsLGF3p5YzA4tqAkPQ!2e0

...thanks for letting us know?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 05, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 10:55:05 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.634332,-74.01607,3a,32.7y,2.03h,91.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sti3LOsLGF3p5YzA4tqAkPQ!2e0

...thanks for letting us know?

The "Off-Topic" forum has that thread about "old" names you may use unintentionally.

I suspect most people either don't know, or couldn't care less, about the Battery Tunnel's "renaming."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 05, 2015, 11:02:34 AM
The "Off-Topic" forum has that thread about "old" names you may use unintentionally.

I suspect most people either don't know, or couldn't care less, about the Battery Tunnel's "renaming."

Yeah, I thought of that topic immediately. I'm not calling it the new name. It's always going to be the Battery for me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 11:49:58 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.902453,-77.058198,3a,15y,97.89h,102.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX5LrWAp-4X9cmaFxVt0fUg!2e0

I don't know, maybe it's best-of material, maybe it's not. It uses that custom font, and it's a DC-US shield. Don't know how many of those still exist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 06, 2015, 07:29:11 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 11:49:58 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.902453,-77.058198,3a,15y,97.89h,102.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX5LrWAp-4X9cmaFxVt0fUg!2e0

I don't know, maybe it's best-of material, maybe it's not. It uses that custom font, and it's a DC-US shield. Don't know how many of those still exist.

Off the top of my head I can think of two DC-US shields on the outbound Roosevelt Bridge. Both are on LGSs telling you which lane to use for westbound 50 and both are arguably erroneous since 50 is no longer in DC as soon as you cross the shoreline. The shield on the sign you've linked is unique because it just says "DC," not "DC-US."

I know there are others, but those are the two that immediately come to mind without having to stop and think about it.

That custom font on the I-66 shield on the Whitehurst is unique, though. Another oddity you didn't mention is the use of periods after the street names ("K. Street" and "E. Street"). That's technically an error, since neither letter is an abbreviation and the street names don't include the periods.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 06, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 06, 2015, 07:29:11 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 05, 2015, 11:49:58 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.902453,-77.058198,3a,15y,97.89h,102.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sX5LrWAp-4X9cmaFxVt0fUg!2e0

I don't know, maybe it's best-of material, maybe it's not. It uses that custom font, and it's a DC-US shield. Don't know how many of those still exist.

Off the top of my head I can think of two DC-US shields on the outbound Roosevelt Bridge. Both are on LGSs telling you which lane to use for westbound 50 and both are arguably erroneous since 50 is no longer in DC as soon as you cross the shoreline. The shield on the sign you've linked is unique because it just says "DC," not "DC-US."

I know there are others, but those are the two that immediately come to mind without having to stop and think about it.

That custom font on the I-66 shield on the Whitehurst is unique, though. Another oddity you didn't mention is the use of periods after the street names ("K. Street" and "E. Street"). That's technically an error, since neither letter is an abbreviation and the street names don't include the periods.
The font on both of those shields looks similar to a font (not sure of its exact name) that adorned many route shields in MA, ME and one or two other northeastern states up until the 1970s/80s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 06, 2015, 05:51:32 PM
Harry S. Truman disagrees (http://www.trumanlibrary.org/speriod.htm) on the period thing.  :P

I am kidding....there is indeed no reason (or excuse) for K. and E. Streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 07, 2015, 11:22:03 AM
Is it unusual to have the word ONLY under the word NORTH? I don't recall ever seeing it around on BGSes.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FI-680_zpse6s0qyzm.jpg&hash=c3d16266ee8da3a7207c71c29c6f239f8069704d)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/a8CXt
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 07, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 07, 2015, 11:22:03 AM
Is it unusual to have the word ONLY under the word NORTH? I don't recall ever seeing it around on BGSes.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FI-680_zpse6s0qyzm.jpg&hash=c3d16266ee8da3a7207c71c29c6f239f8069704d)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/a8CXt


That is an Ohio Turnpike practice.  They did (or used to do) that on EB I-80 where I-90 splits off to join SR-2 East (Exit 142).  That exit made a little sense as you could not directly access SR-2 West from I-90 East.  Since I-680 ends at the Turnpike, there is no reason why to have the extra ONLY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 07, 2015, 01:26:31 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 07, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 07, 2015, 11:22:03 AM
Is it unusual to have the word ONLY under the word NORTH? I don't recall ever seeing it around on BGSes.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FI-680_zpse6s0qyzm.jpg&hash=c3d16266ee8da3a7207c71c29c6f239f8069704d)

GMSV: http://goo.gl/maps/a8CXt


That is an Ohio Turnpike practice.  They did (or used to do) that on EB I-80 where I-90 splits off to join SR-2 East (Exit 142).  That exit made a little sense as you could not directly access SR-2 West from I-90 East.  Since I-680 ends at the Turnpike, there is no reason why to have the extra ONLY.

This one also falls into the bad design category, with the arrow in the relative center of sign (instead of on the bottom or right side) and the lack of a standard black on yellow exit only panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 07, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Also Ohio Turnpike peculiarities.  EXIT ONLY often appeared where there was no need for it--the exit lane appeared normally, then departed.  They have gotten away from it with the newest signs but there are plenty of weirdo ones like this around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on March 07, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
It should be posted, "No Re-Entry," not "Exit Only."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 07, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: renegade on March 07, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
It should be posted, "No Re-Entry," not "Exit Only."

Except the Ohio Turnpike use of Exit Only white on green like that isn't meant as "no re-entry"....it's a well-meaning but inappropriate use of the conventional Exit Only and they use(d) it at many interchanges.  A couple pictures at the top of Steve's I-80/90 page (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/i-90/w.html) show what I mean. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on March 09, 2015, 07:15:21 PM
I really wasn't sure which thread this belongs in, so I'm using the interesting clause of the title here. Reform, AL

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F09%2F3405d381a70a0696fe5530ab6bebcfc8.jpg&hash=bb280dc0a139b3846ca48738496763004df30509)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on March 09, 2015, 08:11:51 PM
Looks like they should've gone for a mini roundabout instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
Trenton has done this on a few of their signs:

Take a sign that is center justified for "No Parking", then instead of adding a single long arrow indicating the beginning of the no parking zone, use two short arrows facing the same direction.  If you squint, you can see the next "No Parking" sign has two arrows, facing opposite directions. While correctly applied in its location, usually a long arrow pointing both directions would be used.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0A2DCE5C-D59D-48DF-999D-F6A062E9A541.jpg&hash=63a9029cbfea666720f98306db76ccaf15caacab) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0A2DCE5C-D59D-48DF-999D-F6A062E9A541.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2015, 10:34:54 PM
NJ's law was "Yield to Pedestrians". The new law is "Stop for Pedestrians". In most cases, the sign was replaced or "yield to" became "stop for". In some cases, only yield was replaced with Stop, resulting in the weirdly sounding "Stop Here To Pedestrians" or "Stop To Pedestrians". Look closely and you can see they attempted to cover up the old "Yield" graphic also, but slightly missed the corners.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F6EDFF40B-ABDB-48DA-817A-E154436E484F.jpg&hash=43269f0e4a8ada871d6d173087ca9c81c5cbd2eb) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/6EDFF40B-ABDB-48DA-817A-E154436E484F.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 09, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
At least Trenton's sign is better than:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F95OHSCu.png&hash=1b77f224f4e91fdf25ce66da7d80fac4e8865434)

:bigass:

That being said, I don't appreciate those stupid 'STOP FOR PEDESTRIAN' signs they place in the center of most roads in pedestrian-heavy areas, because combine that with with people parked on the sides and you have to navigate to avoid the sign and the cars. I would rather them post signs and stick them on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 09, 2015, 11:01:41 PM
One thing I dislike about "Stop for Pedestrian" signs is that some cities place them in crosswalks controlled by "Walk/Don't Walk" lights. If the pedestrian has a "Don't Walk" light, HE is supposed to yield to vehicles with a green light. But I've seen a number of belligerent pedestrians who think the "Stop for Pedestrian" sign trumps thag.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 10, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 09, 2015, 11:01:41 PM
One thing I dislike about "Stop for Pedestrian" signs is that some cities place them in crosswalks controlled by "Walk/Don't Walk" lights. If the pedestrian has a "Don't Walk" light, HE is supposed to yield to vehicles with a green light. But I've seen a number of belligerent pedestrians who think the "Stop for Pedestrian" sign trumps thag.

That happened to me in Lambertville on Sunday. Sure, 'stop for pedestrians' means do it at crosswalks, but if the damn traffic signal has a picture of a hand up, you still don't cross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 09, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
At least Trenton's sign is better than:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F95OHSCu.png&hash=1b77f224f4e91fdf25ce66da7d80fac4e8865434)

:bigass:

:bigass:

There are a few of these signs still around where "Yield" hasn't faded.  There was one just down the street from where I took my pictures. (At least I think it still said 'Yield" and not "Stop")
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 11, 2015, 07:11:59 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

Not in Massachusetts. from M.G.L. c. 89, § 11:

QuoteSection 11. When traffic control signals are not in place or not in operation the driver of a vehicle shall yield the right of way, slowing down or stopping if need be so to yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a crosswalk marked in accordance with standards established by the department of highways if the pedestrian is on that half of the traveled part of the way on which the vehicle is traveling or if the pedestrian approaches from the opposite half of the traveled part of the way to within 10 feet of that half of the traveled part of the way on which said vehicle is traveling.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 07:47:27 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

That's the sort of thing that varies from state to state, just like whether the law calls for "stopping for" or "yielding to" pedestrians varies from state to state. In a state that requires you to "yield" to pedestrians, you don't necessarily have to stop for a pedestrian in the crosswalk, for example if it's a wide street and the pedestrian is nowhere near your lane. But some states require you to stop if the pedestrian is anywhere in the crosswalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Here's NJ's law pertaining to pedestrians.  While a pedestrian within a crosswalk (or unmarked crosswalk at intersections) are perceived to have the right of way, they certainly can't just wander willy-nilly:

Quote
39:4-36  Driver to yield to pedestrians, exceptions; violations, penalties.

39:4-36. a. The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except at crosswalks when the movement of traffic is being regulated by police officers or traffic control signals, or where otherwise regulated by municipal, county, or State regulation, and except where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided:

(1)The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within a marked crosswalk, when the pedestrian is upon, or within one lane of, the half of the roadway, upon which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning.  As used in this paragraph, "half of the roadway" means all traffic lanes conveying traffic in one direction of travel, and includes the entire width of a one-way roadway.

(2)No pedestrian shall leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield or stop.

(3)Whenever any vehicle is stopped to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.

(4)Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.

(5)Nothing contained herein shall relieve a driver from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway. Nothing contained herein shall relieve a pedestrian from using due care for his safety.

Now, since you're from Kansas, maybe their law is different.  So I looked it up...and it's extremely similar to NJ's law.  In fact, there's nothing to indicate that "You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them."  There is a provision that requires drivers to exercise due care to avoid hitting pedestrians, but that's not the same as saying the pedestrian is always right.

Kansas' laws pertaining to pedestrians:  http://www.ksdot.org/bureaus/burRail/bike/biking/KssidewalkStatutes.asp
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on March 11, 2015, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.

Are you sure that's a public road?  It's past the "authorized personal only, permit required" sign.  Probably put up by the airport authority.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 11, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

Edit: not literally true, as it turns out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 11, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 11, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.

I didn't try searching it because it was taking forever to load to the point where I could do that, but do they perchance use the word "typeface" instead of "font"? Most people would regard the distinction between the two words as pedantic, but there is a difference. The "font" is what you use, the "typeface" is what you see. Times New Roman is a typeface, for example (and Times New Roman Bold is a different typeface). Times New Roman 12-point is a font. A font is a single weight, width, and style of a typeface.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 11, 2015, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 11, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.

I didn't try searching it because it was taking forever to load to the point where I could do that, but do they perchance use the word "typeface" instead of "font"? Most people would regard the distinction between the two words as pedantic, but there is a difference. The "font" is what you use, the "typeface" is what you see. Times New Roman is a typeface, for example (and Times New Roman Bold is a different typeface). Times New Roman 12-point is a font. A font is a single weight, width, and style of a typeface.

From Section 2A.06 Design of Signs:

Standard:
06 The term legend shall include all word messages and symbol and arrow designs that are intended to
convey specific meanings.
07 Uniformity in design shall include shape, color, dimensions, legends, borders, and illumination or
retroreflectivity.
08 Standardization of these designs does not preclude further improvement by minor changes in the
proportion or orientation of symbols, width of borders, or layout of word messages, but all shapes and
colors shall be as indicated.
09 All symbols shall be unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of, the adopted symbol signs, all of
which are shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings"  book (see Section 1A.11). Symbols
and colors shall not be modified unless otherwise provided in this Manual. All symbols and colors for
signs not shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings"  book shall follow the procedures for
experimentation and change described in Section 1A.10.

This suggests that symbol and color are the only factors that are sacrosanct.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:46:29 PM
I was trying to think of other words similar to 'font' as well.

Typeface and type face both come up negative.

Type or face come up, but nothing to do with fonts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: spooky on March 11, 2015, 03:44:27 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 11, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 10:59:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.448399,-81.330634,3a,82.2y,139.16h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZqh4hQTeinCz_0qkDhvmdg!2e0

This is on the west side of the Orlando International Airport.  One of the very rare instances of a public road with a non MUTCD stop sign.
While the font on that STOP sign certainly isn't standard, I'll give you that (looks like a private fabrication/install); however, that alone does not make it non-MUTCD complaint.  As long as it's octagonal, red w/white lettering and has the word STOP on it; it's MUTCD complaint for a STOP sign.

To be honest, when I first clicked on your link; I was expecting to see either an odd-shaped and/or different colored STOP sign.

Not to be pedantic, but I believe the MUTCD says signs "shall" use the approved fonts, to the same degree of force as it says stop signs "shall" be octagonal and red.

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009/mutcd2009edition.pdf

Amazingly, doing a word search, "Font" only comes up once in the entire document.  And it's under the 'changeable message sign' section.

As for the section under Stop signs, it only states that the stop sign "shall be an octagon with a white legend and border on a red background".  So as long as that condition is met, which it was, then it's a legal stop sign.

I didn't try searching it because it was taking forever to load to the point where I could do that, but do they perchance use the word "typeface" instead of "font"? Most people would regard the distinction between the two words as pedantic, but there is a difference. The "font" is what you use, the "typeface" is what you see. Times New Roman is a typeface, for example (and Times New Roman Bold is a different typeface). Times New Roman 12-point is a font. A font is a single weight, width, and style of a typeface.

From Section 2A.06 Design of Signs:

Standard:
06 The term legend shall include all word messages and symbol and arrow designs that are intended to
convey specific meanings.
07 Uniformity in design shall include shape, color, dimensions, legends, borders, and illumination or
retroreflectivity.
08 Standardization of these designs does not preclude further improvement by minor changes in the
proportion or orientation of symbols, width of borders, or layout of word messages, but all shapes and
colors shall be as indicated.
09 All symbols shall be unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of, the adopted symbol signs, all of
which are shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings"  book (see Section 1A.11). Symbols
and colors shall not be modified unless otherwise provided in this Manual. All symbols and colors for
signs not shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings"  book shall follow the procedures for
experimentation and change described in Section 1A.10.

This suggests that symbol and color are the only factors that are sacrosanct.

I guess what I was falling back to was simplicity.  Instead of dissecting the verbiage of the MUTCD, I was thinking of driver's education.  One of the first things you learn when you start learning how to drive is that stop signs are the most unique signs in the world for a reason.  There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs and one of just a hand full of signs that are mostly (or all) red.  In the interest of safety for those learning to drive, the MUTCD came up with strict guidelines on how a stop sign should look so it will not look "foreign" when it doesn't comply to the same standards as all the others across the country.  So when I see a stop sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font, I think it is very odd looking, seeing how they are supposed to be the most standardized sign across the board by MUTCH, because it is a STOP SIGN.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 11, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 11, 2015, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2015, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 10, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
A pedestrian disobeying the DON'T WALK signal is still someone a driver has to yield to.

To avoid hitting, yes.  Legally, no.

Legally, yes. You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them.

So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Here's NJ's law pertaining to pedestrians.  While a pedestrian within a crosswalk (or unmarked crosswalk at intersections) are perceived to have the right of way, they certainly can't just wander willy-nilly:

Quote
39:4-36  Driver to yield to pedestrians, exceptions; violations, penalties.

39:4-36. a. The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except at crosswalks when the movement of traffic is being regulated by police officers or traffic control signals, or where otherwise regulated by municipal, county, or State regulation, and except where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided:

(1)The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within a marked crosswalk, when the pedestrian is upon, or within one lane of, the half of the roadway, upon which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning.  As used in this paragraph, "half of the roadway" means all traffic lanes conveying traffic in one direction of travel, and includes the entire width of a one-way roadway.

(2)No pedestrian shall leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is impossible for the driver to yield or stop.

(3)Whenever any vehicle is stopped to permit a pedestrian to cross the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.

(4)Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.

(5)Nothing contained herein shall relieve a driver from the duty to exercise due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway. Nothing contained herein shall relieve a pedestrian from using due care for his safety.

Now, since you're from Kansas, maybe their law is different.  So I looked it up...and it's extremely similar to NJ's law.  In fact, there's nothing to indicate that "You, as a driver, are in fact legally obligated to yield to pedestrians even when they have broken the law and entered the roadway in violation of laws pertaining to them."  There is a provision that requires drivers to exercise due care to avoid hitting pedestrians, but that's not the same as saying the pedestrian is always right.

Kansas' laws pertaining to pedestrians:  http://www.ksdot.org/bureaus/burRail/bike/biking/KssidewalkStatutes.asp


So your saying that "exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian upon a roadway" does NOT necessarily include yielding to said pedestrian? The original post I quoted very clearly implied that it is legal to hit a pedestrian who has entered the road against a DON'T WALK signal, when such is obviously not the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 11, 2015, 04:09:30 PM
From MUTCD Standard Sign Manual

Letters in the box in the bottom refer to the FHWA typeface to use.  First sign in this PDF file is the stop sign and say use series C in column D

http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/SHSe/Regulatory.pdf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 11, 2015, 04:12:24 PM
And yes, if you're driving on the Turnpike at 75 mph and someone wanders out into the highway, you are legally obligated to avoid hitting him. If that means coming to a full stop (not sure how it would require that, but I'll bite), then so be it. There does not exist a point at which you just get to say "screw it" and mow someone down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
.... There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs ....

Someone needs to tell that to the GSA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.884849,-77.023894,3a,37.5y,356.91h,86.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svu-NLiXmJ8wn5NzeFtvQCA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 11, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on March 11, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.

This is the same people that claimed it's illegal to drive westbound along a road striped for travel in both directions because the city has not repealed an ordinance making the street one-way eastbound.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 11, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
.... There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs ....

Someone needs to tell that to the GSA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.884849,-77.023894,3a,37.5y,356.91h,86.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svu-NLiXmJ8wn5NzeFtvQCA!2e0
and WisDOT.  They put a octagonal DO NOT ENTER sign on the reverse side of the STOP sign in order to keep the shape for those facing the stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 11, 2015, 04:38:19 PM
I think what I was remembering was this:
QuoteSection 1A.11 Relation to Other Publications

Standard:
01 To the extent that they are incorporated by specific reference, the latest editions of the following publications, or those editions specifically noted, shall be a part of this Manual: "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book (FHWA); and "Color Specifications for Retroreflective Sign and Pavement Marking Materials" (appendix to subpart F of Part 655 of Title 23 of the Code of Federal Regulations).

Support:
02 The "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book includes standard alphabets and symbols and arrows for signs and pavement markings.

I found this passage by searching for the phrase "standard alphabets".  So, indirectly, if Standard Highway Signs and Markings says to use a specific font (which it does for every sign, right?) then the MUTCD says to use that font.  What's less clear is how forceful that font specification is.  Though I'm having trouble locating corroborating verbiage, my hunch is it's on comparable ground with symbols and arrows, and therefore shall be "unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of" the Standard Alphabets as specified in SHS, per spooky's quote from chapter 2A.  I'll edit my previous post to indicate my belief at that time was not literally true.



Quote from: Big John on March 11, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 11, 2015, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:04:53 PM
.... There is a reason they are the only octagonal signs ....

Someone needs to tell that to the GSA:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.884849,-77.023894,3a,37.5y,356.91h,86.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svu-NLiXmJ8wn5NzeFtvQCA!2e0
and WisDOT.  They put a octagonal DO NOT ENTER sign on the reverse side of the STOP sign in order to keep the shape for those facing the stop sign.

Wouldn't a round DO NOT ENTER sign fit nicely behind an octagonal STOP sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
Quote from: spooky on March 11, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.

I am still gonna stop yeah, I am not stupid.  But I think the standardization of the sign keeps the driver from having the split second distraction of "that stop sign looks a little off" or "the octagon is a bit narrow".  I think the point is to eliminate any distraction that can arise, even if it is a tenth of a second, because we are trying to control an intersection.  I know it may sound very petty, and it isn't like someone is going to run the stop sign if the font is wrong, but when there is something a bit different about the road, it will distract you.  After all, this forum would have half the posts it did if it wasn't for inconsistencies, so obviously they can distract a driver.


I think when I put down my original link it was because the stop sign was odd looking, regardless of how you stretch the rules to make it legal.  It was odd, just like when you see a trailblazer shield and the "TO" is in Arial font.  It is odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 11, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:40:06 PMI think when I put down my original link it was because the stop sign was odd looking, regardless of how you stretch the rules to make it legal.  It was odd, just like when you see a trailblazer shield and the "TO" is in Arial font.  It is odd.
In retrospect, had you just simply stated odd or unusual font as opposed to "non-MUTCD STOP sign" (which is a tad misleading IMHO); this thread would be about 10 to 15 replies shorter.  :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 11:46:37 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2015, 06:44:14 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 11, 2015, 04:40:06 PMI think when I put down my original link it was because the stop sign was odd looking, regardless of how you stretch the rules to make it legal.  It was odd, just like when you see a trailblazer shield and the "TO" is in Arial font.  It is odd.
In retrospect, had you just simply stated odd or unusual font as opposed to "non-MUTCD STOP sign" (which is a tad misleading IMHO); this thread would be about 10 to 15 replies shorter.  :)

Agreed, but I thought that was implied by the subject title.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on March 12, 2015, 03:48:14 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.

Almost certainly not murder. Possibly manslaughter, especially if you also don't stop after the fact and it becomes a hit and run.  But generally if the motorist does everything else correctly, it's understood that you can't always stop on a dime, and frequently they're not even cited.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 04:19:49 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on March 12, 2015, 03:48:14 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2015, 08:19:58 AM
So when driving on the 75 mph Kansas Turnpike, if a pedestrian wanders into the road, legally everyone has to stop for him?  I don't think so.  That's why these blanket statements are almost always wrong.

Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.

Almost certainly not murder. Possibly manslaughter, especially if you also don't stop after the fact and it becomes a hit and run.  But generally if the motorist does everything else correctly, it's understood that you can't always stop on a dime, and frequently they're not even cited.

Good point. Forgot about "manslaughter" as an alternative to murder.

My point was, if you are driving along a road, and you see someone standing in it, you cannot knowingly run over them.

If you turn a corner, and someone is just standing there without cause, and you can prove that you could not see them, then that's okay. But if you can see them plain as day, you need to stop.

I am drawing a line between someone darting out into traffic and someone standing in a lane of travel for a significant period of time, long enough to be noticed by even the least attentive motorist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 09:44:51 AM
Right. A pedestrian disobeying the law does allow a driver permission to not avoid hitting him. New Jersey's law, above, clearly states in 39:4-36(5) that none of the other laws shall be interpreted to mean that's ever OK. No, that doesn't mean the pedestrian is always right. What it does mean is that the driver has to yield to the pedestrian no matter who was right or wrong when that kind of situation presents itself. The same section also gives pedestrians the responsibility to watch out for drivers who fail to obey their regulations and laws, but with slightly different wording due to the fact that pedestrians are the ones more at risk of injury when bumper meets flesh. "Right of way" is not generally a term used in American traffic law; that is, laws are not generally worded to say that it's OK for you to go while everyone else must yield to you. Rather, they are generally always restrictive; that is, they are worded to say when each person must give way to others. "Taking the right of way" sounds good but is not generally a legally protected action, should anything bad happen.

This is actually a hard thing to teach children, in my experience. I am one who is not afraid to "take the right of way" when crossing the street as a pedestrian. I've had years of experience doing so, and I know the laws well. If I know that a coming vehicle is obligated to yield to me as I legally cross the street in a crosswalk, then I'm usually not going to bother waiting. But I am keenly aware, out of the corner of my eye, of the vehicle's movement, and I'm ready to avoid being hit if that vehicle doesn't yield. So how do I teach that to my sons? to be bold and not intimidated when traveling on foot, but also to be scared of being hit at the same time.

I know, when I was a child, it irked me that my parents would wait a few extra seconds at a four-way stop to make sure cross traffic was actually stopping. My argument was that, if the other car hit ours, then it would be the other driver's fault. My mom's reply was that that didn't wouldn't matter because the car would be damaged, no matter whose fault it was (not to mention bodily harm, which she didn't). That just didn't make sense to my young mind.

Back on the actual topic of "Yield to pedestrians" versus "Stop for pedestrians" signs, my initial reaction is that Stop is overkill. But, upon reflection, I think it's a good idea for two reasons: (1) We Americans tend to blow through Yield signs too quickly, interpreting them to mean "this stretch of road isn't busy enough for a Stop sign, so there's probably nobody to give way to, so why bother slowing down very much"; especially where there a lot of pedestrians crossing the street, drivers could benefit from the more forceful language. (2) The next step up from signs is usually a dedicated crosswalk stoplight, and those always seem to stay red for-freaking-ever before turning green again. I'm in favor of exploring signage options before installing one of those.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 04:19:49 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on March 12, 2015, 03:48:14 AMAlmost certainly not murder. Possibly manslaughter, especially if you also don't stop after the fact and it becomes a hit and run.  But generally if the motorist does everything else correctly, it's understood that you can't always stop on a dime, and frequently they're not even cited.

Good point. Forgot about "manslaughter" as an alternative to murder.
Actually the main difference between murder and manslaughter is that the latter is not a malicious act (aka absence of malice).

Quote from: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 04:19:49 AMMy point was, if you are driving along a road, and you see someone standing in it, you cannot knowingly run over them.

If you turn a corner, and someone is just standing there without cause, and you can prove that you could not see them, then that's okay. But if you can see them plain as day, you need to stop.

I am drawing a line between someone darting out into traffic and someone standing in a lane of travel for a significant period of time, long enough to be noticed by even the least attentive motorist.
It is my understanding that most if not all expressways/freeways in the U.S. prohibit pedestrians from using them.  Most of not all accidents involving pedestrians getting struck (and possibly killed) on freeways usually involves either:

1.  The pedestrian intentionally placing themselves in harm's way, be it a dare or a suicide (attempt).

2.  A stranded motorist getting out of their car and crossing the expressway for some reason (example: while changing a tire, the spare accidentally rolls out towards traffic and the motorist tries to retrieve it by crossing the road).

3.  An errant vehicle swerving into the shoulder striking a pedestrian; be it stranded motorist that's either standing or walking towards the back of their vehicle for something, or a state trooper that happens to be on the scene.  The latter is one reason why many police officers now approach a stopped vehicle from the passenger's side during traffic stops.  There have been cases where cops have been struck by a passing vehicle (be it an expressway or a conventional street) while making a traffic stop.

Long story short, the so-called pedestrian always having the right-of-way - no matter what; I don't believe, fully applies in an expressway/freeway scenario.  Case in point; the demonstrators along two-sections of I-93 near Boston that took place earlier this year did not have the right-of-way to stop/disrupt traffic along that highway.

Quote from: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 09:44:51 AMBack on the actual topic of "Yield to pedestrians" versus "Stop for pedestrians" signs, my initial reaction is that Stop is overkill. But, upon reflection, I think it's a good idea for two reasons: (1) We Americans tend to blow through Yield signs too quickly, interpreting them to mean "this stretch of road isn't busy enough for a Stop sign, so there's probably nobody to give way to, so why bother slowing down very much"; especially where there a lot of pedestrians crossing the street, drivers could benefit from the more forceful language. (2) The next step up from signs is usually a dedicated crosswalk stoplight, and those always seem to stay red for-freaking-ever before turning green again. I'm in favor of exploring signage options before installing one of those.
Where I reside, I've usually seen Stop for Pedestrians signs at crossings where the roadway traffic is not making any turns.  The Yield to Pedestrian signs are usually posted where turning vehicles will encounter a pedestrian crossing area or crosswalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 12, 2015, 10:46:39 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 09:44:51 AMBack on the actual topic of "Yield to pedestrians" versus "Stop for pedestrians" signs, my initial reaction is that Stop is overkill. But, upon reflection, I think it's a good idea for two reasons: (1) We Americans tend to blow through Yield signs too quickly, interpreting them to mean "this stretch of road isn't busy enough for a Stop sign, so there's probably nobody to give way to, so why bother slowing down very much"; especially where there a lot of pedestrians crossing the street, drivers could benefit from the more forceful language. (2) The next step up from signs is usually a dedicated crosswalk stoplight, and those always seem to stay red for-freaking-ever before turning green again. I'm in favor of exploring signage options before installing one of those.
Where I reside, I've usually seen Stop for Pedestrains signs at crossings where the roadway traffic is not making any turns.  The Yield to Pedestrain signs are usually posted where turning vehicles will encounter a pedestrain crossing area or crosswalk.

I think I brought up "Yield to Pedestrians." In Virginia, that variant is the only one that's used at all–the state MUTCD supplement specifically provides that "Stop for Pedestrians" is not to be used here. I believe the reason is that the statute requires drivers to "yield" to pedestrians in certain circumstances and specifically allows a driver to change course or slow down, rather than stopping, if those alternatives are safe under the circumstances. The statute also refers to yielding to pedestrians "[a]t any intersection when the driver is approaching on a highway or street where the legal maximum speed does not exceed 35 miles per hour," which I find interesting because some of the bad pedestrian behavior is not limited to roads with speed limits that low.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 01:39:49 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 10:16:38 AM
Long story short, the so-called pedestrian always having the right-of-way - no matter what; I don't believe, fully applies in an expressway/freeway scenario.  Case in point; the demonstrators along two-sections of I-93 near Boston that took place earlier this year did not have the right-of-way to stop/disrupt traffic along that highway.

I concur. There are many places where pedestrians do not the right of way. I am not arguing against that. What I am trying to say is, you, just as equally, have no right to knowingly kill someone. Case in point; the drivers on I-93 stopped for the protesters because if they didn't, then they would have killed them (which is, of course, vehicular manslaughter).

Perhaps its just me, but the merits of right-of-way should only be discussed if said right-of-way isn't already occupied (minus situations whereby the right-of-way is very suddenly occupied and others do not have time to react to the sudden occupation).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 12, 2015, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 12, 2015, 01:39:49 PMCase in point; the drivers on I-93 stopped for the protesters because if they didn't, then they would have killed them (which is, of course, vehicular manslaughter).
I'm sure of them thought of doing such... especially after they knew who the protesters were (mostly rich spoiled brats).

All joking aside, when someone's killed by getting struck by a vehicle; the charge is known as vehicular homicide.

Quote from: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 02:42:06 PMI've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.
I've seen examples of R1-6a signs (scroll down) (http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009r1r2/part2b.pdf) situated inside the double-yellow stripes along Swarthmore Ave. in Swarthmore, PA near the railroad crossing (GSV for this area predates the installation of such signs).  So such signs are indeed out there and in use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 12, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 11, 2015, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: spooky on March 11, 2015, 04:09:06 PM
I suspect you are in the minority. You know what most people do when they see a sign that is not in FHWA Highway Gothic font?

They stop.

This is the same people that claimed it's illegal to drive westbound along a road striped for travel in both directions because the city has not repealed an ordinance making the street one-way eastbound.

I heart you.

BTW, it was not the same people.  My statement regarding this was there isn't any specific font that shall be used; not "since it's not the right font, you can ignore it".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 12, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
Quote
And yes, if you're driving on the Turnpike at 75 mph and someone wanders out into the highway, you are legally obligated to avoid hitting him. If that means coming to a full stop (not sure how it would require that, but I'll bite), then so be it. There does not exist a point at which you just get to say "screw it" and mow someone down.

Due to the rate of speed on a highway, if someone is standing in a lane, you do what you can to avoid hitting them.  However, I would argue stopping is not prudent depending on the circumstance.  What if you have a tractor trailer behind you, which takes longer to stop?  If you stopped and tractor trailer runs into you, he'll potentially push you into pedestrian anyway, and tractor trailer is probably going to jackknife into another lane, causing more mayhem.  Should the tractor trailer have left more room?  Yes.  Have you always followed the absolute letter of the law yourself?  No.

You will have a very tough time finding a news story when someone was charged for hitting a pedestrian in a travel lane of a high-speed highway.  As long as the driver wasn't under the influence and wasn't distracted, it's almost always going to be found to the pedestrians' fault, and many times chalked up to a suicide or something wrong with the pedestrian.  Go ahead...try to find a news story where the driver was charged for hitting a pedestrian in the travel lanes of a highway.  You'll find a ton of "Police are investigating" stories.  If it's determined the driver was at fault, quite often you'll find a news story stating why.  When the pedestrian is found at fault, rarely will you see a followup story. 

Quote
Sounds like murder if you don't stop for them. I mean, yeah, their fucking insane, but that doesn't give you the right to just plow over them.

In the land of making up stuff, Never did I say plow them over.  But as mentioned above, a 75 mph highway is a very different field than a 25 mph roadway.  It's common sense to expect pedestrians on local roads.  The rarity of pedestrians on an interstate highway leads to the assumption that even if you think you see someone standing on the highway ahead, by the time you even have a chance to react to it, you'll be right on top of them.

Quote
Case in point; the drivers on I-93 stopped for the protesters because if they didn't, then they would have killed them (which is, of course, vehicular manslaughter).

I'm pretty sure traffic was already congested, and these people simply walked out into that line of traffic.  (If they didn't stop for them intentionally, it's vehicular manslaughter.  If a protestor suddenly ran in front of traffic and got it, it's not vehicular manslaughter)

But even this is a totally different situation.  Pedestrians have the right to cross the roadway.  These protestors were arrested because they didn't belong on the roadway, blocking traffic.  And in one high-profile story, one protestor was fired from their government job.  I'll bet that if any of the others were employed, and their boss found out they were out there...especially if said boss was stuck in the ensuing traffic, they were probably fired as well.  Again, clear distinction: Pedestrians obeying the law have the legal right to the roadway.  Pedestrians jaywalking shouldn't be run into if at all possible, but are subject to a ticket...and in extreme cases, arrest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 12, 2015, 08:18:52 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 12, 2015, 08:07:35 PM
BTW, it was not the same people.
It wasn't the two of you?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on March 14, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.

Come to Ann Arbor.  You will see them everywhere.  Pedestrians are special there.  The text-messaging generation has the right-of-way at all times.  They are not required to look before stepping out into the street.  Drivers, on the other hand, must STOP mid-block on the busiest 45-mph roadways if a pedestrian even LOOKS like he/she might be THINKING about crossing the street sometime in the next week to ten days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 14, 2015, 12:14:09 PM
Quote from: renegade on March 14, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.

Come to Ann Arbor.  You will see them everywhere.  Pedestrians are special there.  The text-messaging generation has the right-of-way at all times.  They are not required to look before stepping out into the street.  Drivers, on the other hand, must STOP mid-block on the busiest 45-mph roadways if a pedestrian even LOOKS like he/she might be THINKING about crossing the street sometime in the next week to ten days.

I got a ticket once in New Hampshire for failing to yield to a pedestrian who was crossing a 4 lane road when I was in the far right lane and thus in no danger of remotely coming close to him. The officer told me that I am to stop the minute that the pedestrian gets onto the roadway, no matter where I happen to be.

I should've challenged that ticket.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 01:34:18 PM
Quote from: renegade on March 14, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 12, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Having the right of way is not an American legal concept. There are scenarios in which the law requires pedestrians to yield to drivers. There are scenarios in which drivers must yield to pedestrians. Sometimes those two overlap. But traffic laws don't say "You have the right to go ahead." Even laws about green lights include the word "caution" and waiting for traffic to clear before proceeding.

And so a freeway's prohibiting pedestrian traffic may seem like it allows a driver to not yield to errant pedestrians, but such rights are not granted to drivers by law, regardless of the type of road they are on.

I've only ever seen a Yield to Pedestrians sign, never a Stop for Pedestrians sign, by the way.

Come to Ann Arbor.  You will see them everywhere.  Pedestrians are special there.  The text-messaging generation has the right-of-way at all times.  They are not required to look before stepping out into the street.  Drivers, on the other hand, must STOP mid-block on the busiest 45-mph roadways if a pedestrian even LOOKS like he/she might be THINKING about crossing the street sometime in the next week to ten days.

It comes down to the wording of the law.  Many states have 'Yield to Pedestrians'.  Some states have 'Stop for Pedestrians'.  Personally, the differences between the two are pretty vague.  If you see someone walking in a crosswalk, you wait for them to cross. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 01:34:18 PMIf you see someone walking in a crosswalk, you wait for them to cross. 
Goes both ways. Would be nice for pedestrians to pay attention to the crosswalk signals - even nicer if they would follow them.

It's a team sport, not an individual competition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 14, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
It's a team sport, not an individual competition.

I think I agree, the only problem being that one team is full of big players who are powerful and fast, and the other team is weak and slow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 14, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
It's a team sport, not an individual competition.

I think I agree, the only problem being that one team is full of big players who are powerful and fast, and the other team is weak and slow.
In other words, just like high school. ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 04:09:28 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 14, 2015, 01:34:18 PMIf you see someone walking in a crosswalk, you wait for them to cross. 
Goes both ways. Would be nice for pedestrians to pay attention to the crosswalk signals - even nicer if they would follow them.

It's a team sport, not an individual competition.

Sigh...

Going back to the context of my response, which was more than that one line, in a mid-block or other location where one could normally expect to see a Yield To/Stop For Pedestrian sign, one should wait for the Ped. 

Yes, both should pay attention. Very annoying when the Ped crosses on a don't walk signal, then gets in a car and fails to yield to other pedestrians.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on March 14, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
Agreed. Didn't mean to go out of text or generate confusion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 14, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
Not a real sign, but I found this in a local school. I have to wonder how a 3DI for I-π would signed. Maybe I-(x00+π), where x was a number between 1 and 9?
Also, what font does it use?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11043250_1803644363194417_6712138769287635251_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 14, 2015, 09:23:35 PM
Beltways can just be signed as "dπ"

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 14, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
I'm of the opinion that one should be able to blow on through as long as they would not conflict with the pedestrian legally crossing the street (in a crosswalk and not against a don't walk signal).  If the conflict does exist, one should only need to take the minimal action (slowing down, changing lanes, stopping, etc.) necessary to avert the conflict.

I was in Baltimore today, and there are seriously those who walk into traffic willy nilly as if cars don't exist.  I would expect that, by and large, THESE are the pedestrians that tend to get hit.  Why anyone has sympathy for them is beyond me.  If they want to win a Darwin Award, so be it, but don't make my life inconvenient just to accommodate their arrogance and stupidity.

It offends me when people carry out their lives with no regard for how their actions affect others.  I strive to make it so that my actions in life don't so much as inconvenience another person (well, another person who isn't a a-hole, at least).  I'm not perfect (and I do feel guilty when I don't meet my high standards that I set for both myself and the rest of humanity), but that's what I strive for.  Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one with that goal.  If we were all more respectful of how we affect others, not only would traffic congestion be a thing of the past, but the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on March 14, 2015, 10:25:57 PM
If you feel you have a chance to cross when it's not your turn and there's no traffic I can deal with that...except that I expect you to hustle your way across the street. I've had the experience of having to slow down for a guy crossing on a red who was taking his sweet time in doing so, and he certainly appeared capable of picking up the speed but simply chose not to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 14, 2015, 10:41:33 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 14, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
Not a real sign, but I found this in a local school. I have to wonder how a 3DI for I-π would signed. Maybe I-(x00+π), where x was a number between 1 and 9?
Also, what font does it use?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11043250_1803644363194417_6712138769287635251_o.jpg)

That font, my friend is Arial. Notice the capital R when comparing with Helvetica is "spread out" compared to the Helvetica R.

And, because it's pi day:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FMath%2520Territory_zpsf4sdfhq4.png&hash=0c3433c68495281a97116af9681f379f3177ca7e)

Used Series E with EM spacing for this one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 14, 2015, 10:42:54 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 14, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
Not a real sign, but I found this in a local school. I have to wonder how a 3DI for I-π would signed. Maybe I-(x00+π), where x was a number between 1 and 9?
Also, what font does it use?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11043250_1803644363194417_6712138769287635251_o.jpg)

The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 14, 2015, 10:59:43 PM
Couldn't resist (inspired by SignGeek101's sign, but my own twist):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1300.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag88%2FZeffyboy%2FSigns%2FHappyPiDay_zps1ra9onfs.png&hash=3e51fb34e9d618eb481474111319f0560c279d93)

It's fairly obvious, but if you read it from top to bottom, left to right, you'll get... yeah, you guessed it. Pity there's nowhere in the actual United States where these three routes meet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 14, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 14, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
If we were all more respectful of how we affect others, not only would traffic congestion be a thing of the past, but the world would be a better place.
You're right about this. Global warming's effects on civilization and its future would lead enough people to stop driving that we wouldn't have any congestion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 15, 2015, 12:02:09 AM
One way or another, eventually people will stop driving cars and there will be no traffic.  Eventually.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 01:33:38 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 14, 2015, 10:42:54 PM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 15, 2015, 03:29:12 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 01:33:38 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 14, 2015, 10:42:54 PM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...

Is there any other letter π on the sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 15, 2015, 03:29:12 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 01:33:38 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 14, 2015, 10:42:54 PM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...

Is there any other letter π on the sign?

I would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 15, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 15, 2015, 12:02:09 AM
One way or another, eventually people will stop driving cars and there will be no traffic.  Eventually.

Pardon me while I laugh my ass off.  Traffic was here before the automobile, and it will be here even if the automobile were to go away.  Ever see pictures of New York or London in the 19th century?  It's just as crowded as today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 15, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 14, 2015, 11:17:32 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 14, 2015, 09:35:26 PM
If we were all more respectful of how we affect others, not only would traffic congestion be a thing of the past, but the world would be a better place.
You're right about this. Global warming's effects on civilization and its future would lead enough people to stop driving that we wouldn't have any congestion.
Ever hear of solar power?  Or all electric cars?  Technology is improving, and I expect that a combination of solar, wind, and better batteries could easily eliminate our use of fossil fuels within a couple decades, if only we would put our research money into that instead of finding ever more difficult places to get oil.  I hate it when environmentalists refuse to acknowledge it.  It's like shooting yourself in the foot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on March 15, 2015, 10:16:48 AM
If we switched to all clean power, electric cars would be a reasonable way to go for some trips. But (a) a simple switch to electric cars without changing the method of electricity generation just shifts the pollution source and (b) fuel isn't the only environmental impact of driving.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 15, 2015, 03:29:12 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 15, 2015, 01:33:38 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 14, 2015, 10:42:54 PM
The latin-alphabet letters are Arial.  The letter π could be from any number of fonts, but my hunch is it's some easy-to-type letter in the font Symbol.

I'm going to assume you meant the Greek letter "pi" (in the interstate shield)...

Is there any other letter π on the sign?

I would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.

When I posted originally, i was using Chrome on my iPad, and it definitely looked like the letter "n" was used.

Posting now from Firefox on a Windows desktop, it is obvious that a "pi" was typed. My apologies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 15, 2015, 07:04:29 PM
This is one way to post an arrow pointing to the right:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7614/16827526725_cf323e2c69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rCZtr8)To I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/rCZtr8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 15, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
It would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.

It's a matter of typography. In most sans-serif fonts, a lowercase pi is fairly simple and looks like a boxy lowercase en, because that's typical of sans-serif Greek text. The mathematical symbol, like almost everything else in math, is traditionally printed in a serif font.



Quote from: Brandon on March 15, 2015, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 15, 2015, 12:02:09 AM
One way or another, eventually people will stop driving cars and there will be no traffic.  Eventually.

Pardon me while I laugh my ass off.  Traffic was here before the automobile, and it will be here even if the automobile were to go away.  Ever see pictures of New York or London in the 19th century?  It's just as crowded as today.

Eventually. You're not thinking far enough ahead. (Ever see pictures of New York from 100,000 BC?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: The Nature Boy on March 15, 2015, 08:49:09 PM
I have it on good word that this is a picture of New York in 65 million BC:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fichef.bbci.co.uk%2Fnaturelibrary%2Fimages%2Fic%2Fcredit%2F640x395%2Fs%2Fsa%2Fsaurischia%2Fsaurischia_1.jpg&hash=7141be451c829a700ff1ec5732aec36f8d72b725)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 15, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 15, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
It would appear that internet fonts don't support the more detailed form of pi.

It's a matter of typography. In most sans-serif fonts, a lowercase pi is fairly simple and looks like a boxy lowercase en, because that's typical of sans-serif Greek text. The mathematical symbol, like almost everything else in math, is traditionally printed in a serif font.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0gONc.gif&hash=2f9a841cdff3a25b16f57e9dcbc038bd9b6e4768)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 16, 2015, 12:41:28 PM
Obviously a greenout problem where indicated. Sure looks weird when you encounter it on the road.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FWeird%2520greenout%2520Springfield_zps1vzr3jy9.png&hash=9576e94184972ac0a3e31d6fb31b6eaf855cd0c6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 18, 2015, 05:01:49 PM
Evidently, this used to be a CR 642 sign before Mercer County decided to stick new numbers over it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.214989,-74.622287,3a,15y,11.57h,99.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1seN5Bzl91KhTfOk2PBBSFcw!2e0

It's also a white-on-blue county route shield, something that Somerset County does more often than the other New Jersey counties.

Also, there's a sign at the intersection on US 130 that uses Trenton as a control city for CR 526 west. I'm assuming that was because it dumps onto NJ 33 anyway? Still, you could've just turned at the intersection for 33 west which was literally the previous intersection before the CR 526 one. Kind of odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 19, 2015, 10:30:07 PM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNJ%2Fnj67%2F101_1570-s.JPG&hash=920032d7f7a1490b66cc52587cc2284cb1845b79)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 19, 2015, 10:32:03 PM
^ Bergen County, along with Monmouth County, does not use the standard 5xx and 6xx/7xx county numbering system that the rest of the state does. No idea why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 19, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 19, 2015, 10:30:07 PM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNJ%2Fnj67%2F101_1570-s.JPG&hash=920032d7f7a1490b66cc52587cc2284cb1845b79)
Off topic, but the signal setup seems odd.  Why would there be an optically-protected left turn signal on what appears to be a one-way street?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on March 20, 2015, 07:05:38 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 19, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 19, 2015, 10:30:07 PM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNJ%2Fnj67%2F101_1570-s.JPG&hash=920032d7f7a1490b66cc52587cc2284cb1845b79)
Off topic, but the signal setup seems odd.  Why would there be an optically-protected left turn signal on what appears to be a one-way street?

I'm thinking it has to do with a concurrent pedestrian crossing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 20, 2015, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: spooky on March 20, 2015, 07:05:38 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 19, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 19, 2015, 10:30:07 PM
Yes, the shield says CR 12, in New Jersey.  Found on NJ 67.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNJ%2Fnj67%2F101_1570-s.JPG&hash=920032d7f7a1490b66cc52587cc2284cb1845b79)
Off topic, but the signal setup seems odd.  Why would there be an optically-protected left turn signal on what appears to be a one-way street?

I'm thinking it has to do with a concurrent pedestrian crossing.

It appears they went with optically protected heads here rather than arrows.  Just an old-style setup more than anything most likely.  A larger view of the intersection is here: http://goo.gl/maps/5cdvr

Different subject matter:  On a nearby intersection, recently installed inverted T signals are shown on GSV(http://goo.gl/maps/aQmOS):

     R
     Y
G<-  G
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 20, 2015, 10:29:13 AM
^^ That makes sense now with the closely-spaced intersection to oncoming traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 21, 2015, 12:51:12 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/T4rbc

If you can't read it, the sign says "Right turn on red" and on the sign below it "After dead stop".

Never seen anything like this before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 23, 2015, 12:44:04 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 21, 2015, 12:51:12 AM
http://goo.gl/maps/T4rbc

If you can't read it, the sign says "Right turn on red" and on the sign below it "After dead stop".

Never seen anything like this before.
Conceptually, such isn't as unusual as one would think.  Even in areas where ROR is legal, similar-type signage (http://goo.gl/maps/bN7gF) has been posted in areas where the emphasis on stopping first prior to proceeding is needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 23, 2015, 01:02:32 PM
Surviving 70s-era BGS with small button-copy I-shields containing Series D numerals (http://goo.gl/maps/l2Jzk) (most button-copy 2dI-shields are typically in Series E).

90s-era BGS with similar small button-copy I-shields containing similar Series D numerals (http://goo.gl/maps/c7PWT)  Not sure whether or not this one was recently replaced as part of the I-95 resigning project that took place some time back.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 24, 2015, 12:06:03 AM
My friend showed this to me. Supposedly it's in Kansas City, Missouri, but I haven't been able to locate it.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPWIvfqq.jpg&hash=8dfdc8590e89ccbbbe492ec8a63127afc6342df1)

Also, that is one ugly uni-sign for the NO PARKING and the 2 HOUR PARKING sign. The border isn't even cut right. Sloppy job.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 24, 2015, 02:00:44 PM
Regarding the bottom side: I'm really curious what they were thinking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 25, 2015, 04:08:02 PM
Marlborough, Massachusetts:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.34718,-71.545782,3a,15y,314.27h,84.71t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1skphBdQlhtb3WxHIs4Dn0zQ!2e0

Definitely a county route pentagon, but not used like you would think it would be...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 25, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Spotted this on the UNA campus today:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16724337227_be9255fa44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8738/16743988718_37d974a64f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rvBjuE)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rvBjuE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Never seen the word "red" written in red on one of these signs before:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7625/16930408622_8649b86c21.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rN5LCW)No Turn On Red (https://flic.kr/p/rN5LCW) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This one's somewhat interesting to me:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8684/16745460699_9fc756f06c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rvJS4D)Interesting Sign (https://flic.kr/p/rvJS4D) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 26, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 25, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Spotted this on the UNA campus today:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16724337227_be9255fa44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Doesn't look like there's a ramp there.  How many wheelchairs go over that curb each day?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 26, 2015, 01:31:56 AM
Quote from: vtk on March 26, 2015, 12:11:33 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 25, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Spotted this on the UNA campus today:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7613/16724337227_be9255fa44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR)Handi-capped Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/rtSAMR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Doesn't look like there's a ramp there.  How many wheelchairs go over that curb each day?

Could be a warning of a crossing further downstream of the sign
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 26, 2015, 08:34:23 AM
Washington Court House, OH, last spotted in 2008:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3711/11940407476_d65bb18f42.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q)028CongestedAreaColsWillardWashCH_1108 (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 26, 2015, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: busman_49 on March 26, 2015, 08:34:23 AM
Washington Court House, OH, last spotted in 2008:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3711/11940407476_d65bb18f42.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q)028CongestedAreaColsWillardWashCH_1108 (https://flic.kr/p/jc8H9q) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/people/23731450@N05/), on Flickr

"Congested Area" warnings can be found on some interstates as well, especially in areas where congestion in an otherwise rural area that may have a significant amount of out-of-state drivers just travelling thru.

Personally, this should be on all "Welcome to New Jersey" signs...not the 1950's postcard!  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on March 26, 2015, 02:38:11 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 26, 2015, 10:59:30 AM
"Congested Area" warnings can be found on some interstates as well, especially in areas where congestion in an otherwise rural area that may have a significant amount of out-of-state drivers just travelling thru.

Personally, this should be on all "Welcome to New Jersey" signs...not the 1950's postcard!  :-D
Hey, now, the only places where the entrance to NJ leads to a congested area are coming from even more congested areas
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 27, 2015, 09:08:10 PM
OK.....I realize this is a bike path and not a road.

But watch the video. I rate this as one of the most unique signs of which I'm aware and I pity the people who have to deal with this shit (literally).

http://link.fox8.com/1BABXI7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 27, 2015, 11:55:37 PM
These BGSes have some small shields:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8693/16763719668_16b7911997.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rxmrPs)US 31/US 72 Alt./AL 20 (https://flic.kr/p/rxmrPs) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 30, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
How about this sign warning area motorists on US 1 & 9 in Elizabeth of the Pulaski Skyway closing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.673888,-74.199786,3a,75y,37.62h,81.64t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssGbR4ZS86EfBAKqDt7VBsQ!2e0

I find the shield on this sign to be as interesting as the latest 1&9 thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 30, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Here's an interesting one that went up here in Huntsville, AL recently:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8723/16796945348_1b2b466399.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rAhJE1)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/rAhJE1) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7631/16364581353_ca5a60bc03.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qW5KUn)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/qW5KUn) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7587/16958725016_de29314393.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rQzU7C)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/rQzU7C) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7637/16777288707_51a4ba3b1c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ryxZqp)Odd U-turn Arrow on a Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/ryxZqp) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

The reason I'm posting it here is because I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for "worst of", but it's certainly close.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 31, 2015, 12:15:23 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 30, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Here's an interesting one that went up here in Huntsville, AL recently:

The reason I'm posting it here is because I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for "worst of", but it's certainly close.


Looks like a first grader cut out that arrow -- no, pre-schooler.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 31, 2015, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 31, 2015, 12:15:23 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 30, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Here's an interesting one that went up here in Huntsville, AL recently:

The reason I'm posting it here is because I'm not sure if it actually qualifies for "worst of", but it's certainly close.


Looks like a first grader cut out that arrow -- no, pre-schooler.

...with left-handed safety scissors!!   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 31, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
^^ Also unusual there's no border on that U-turn sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 31, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
^^ Also unusual there's no border on that U-turn sign.

Kid was running with scissors and had them taken away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 31, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
So, would it qualify as "worst of" or?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 31, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
So, would it qualify as "worst of" or?

It certainly qualifies for the bad and the ugly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 31, 2015, 10:45:58 PM
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.366919,-92.035479,3a,15y,297.33h,89.11t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9U3J6Hw3NJN0v9Ro1eJ3eA!2e0

Interesting because you are already in Minnesota, and they choose to use Minnesota as a destination. Also, what's that symbol / shield / insignia under both of the legends?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on March 31, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 31, 2015, 10:45:58 PM
https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.366919,-92.035479,3a,15y,297.33h,89.11t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9U3J6Hw3NJN0v9Ro1eJ3eA!2e0

Interesting because you are already in Minnesota, and they choose to use Minnesota as a destination. Also, what's that symbol / shield / insignia under both of the legends?

That's the Great River Road shield posted along routes following along the Mississippi River. My guess is that you are approaching the Great River Road route, and can either follow it into Wisconsin or follow it as it enters Minnesota.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2015, 10:50:39 PM
Great River Road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on April 03, 2015, 06:42:13 PM
State named Interstate shield for I 490 in Rochester, NY
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.173935,-77.732371,3a,15y,193.27h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_g8AhX4J91jQ8WPPnlz9bA!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 05, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
I finally got a photo of one of the two neutered stand-alone I-565 shields on I-565 back during Spring Break:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7665/16419554604_22f7b12d3c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1Wvx3)Neutered I-565 Sheild (https://flic.kr/p/r1Wvx3) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on April 05, 2015, 11:49:45 AM
Not erroneous, not bad bad, but just very poorly laid out (IL-47, Yorkville, IL):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi837.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz298%2Fmidamcrossrds%2F100_5310_zpsoxfpecuf.jpg&hash=a853d87bedc8a417db986821d2750f5fdf1f6e80) (http://s837.photobucket.com/user/midamcrossrds/media/100_5310_zpsoxfpecuf.jpg.html)

For clarification, it's "Silver Springs State Park" and the "Hoover Center" (owned by the Kendall County Forest Preserve District).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 05, 2015, 11:45:18 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8658/16608924392_eabfa5b086_b.jpg)

Not my pic. Monotype Corsiva, really? It's not North American, but still, I rather see Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 07:31:06 AM
I have joked about that font actually being on a sign before, but I guess anything is possible when you go outside the USA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 06, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
I'm putting these here because I have no idea what it's trying to convey. I-75/I-96 in Detroit:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@42.315852,-83.085049,3a,17.6y,78.68h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sFXenJSkeGFwv0-Hh0iLFjg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 05:28:52 PM
Odd of MDOT to make a sign that poor, I assume its trying to say this ramp is the last USA one? I don't really know.  :confused:

EDIT: Actually if you look at what exit it is it means This ramp is exiting or leaving the USA. It is poorly worded, but if you see the whole picture it makes more sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on April 06, 2015, 05:37:24 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 05:28:52 PM
Odd of MDOT to make a sign that poor, I assume its trying to say this ramp is the last USA one? I don't really know.  :confused:

EDIT: Actually if you look at what exit it is it means This ramp is exiting or leaving the USA. It is poorly worded, but if you see the whole picture it makes more sense.
I think it's the opposite. What part of "ramp must exit USA" is poorly worded? "No re-entry to USA" is however incorrect. Re-entry by its very nature requires one to leave first, so unless Canada arrests you or something, you can re-enter USA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on April 06, 2015, 05:37:24 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 06, 2015, 05:28:52 PM
Odd of MDOT to make a sign that poor, I assume its trying to say this ramp is the last USA one? I don't really know.  :confused:

EDIT: Actually if you look at what exit it is it means This ramp is exiting or leaving the USA. It is poorly worded, but if you see the whole picture it makes more sense.
I think it's the opposite. What part of "ramp must exit USA" is poorly worded? "No re-entry to USA" is however incorrect. Re-entry by its very nature requires one to leave first, so unless Canada arrests you or something, you can re-enter USA.
Despite it being more incorrect, I think at first glance the sign "RAMP MUST EXIT USA" is more confusing.

I'd prefer "NO USA ACCESS THIS EXIT" or something like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 06, 2015, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on April 06, 2015, 05:37:24 PM
I think it's the opposite. What part of "ramp must exit USA" is poorly worded? "No re-entry to USA" is however incorrect. Re-entry by its very nature requires one to leave first, so unless Canada arrests you or something, you can re-enter USA.

The USA part being in larger text threw me off - now I see it's a continuous phrase.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 06, 2015, 05:45:28 PM
I would refer "Ramp to Canada only"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 06, 2015, 06:12:11 PM
How about "Border Crossing Ahead"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 06, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
CANADA ONLY

Simple, factual, and unmistakeable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 07, 2015, 12:11:25 AM
Am I the only person here who remembers when Class 3 Object Markers were both black and yellow, and black and white? I believe FDOT still painted up the pylons of bridges in the same colors as recently as the 2000's.

I wish I had a picture of one.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on April 08, 2015, 02:15:48 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 06, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
I'm putting these here because I have no idea what it's trying to convey. I-75/I-96 in Detroit:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@42.315852,-83.085049,3a,17.6y,78.68h,92.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sFXenJSkeGFwv0-Hh0iLFjg!2e0

That ramp goes directly to the Ambassador Bridge.  There is absolutely NO place to turn around after you pass the gore point.  You MUST go through customs in Canada, explain how you messed up, then turn around and go back to Detroit, and explain to the Border Patrol how you messed up.  Plan on a delightful minimum of three hours.  If you take that ramp without intending to go to Canada, you'll quickly learn exactly what that sign is trying to say.

Don't ask how I know about this, just understand that I do.   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg3FciVr.jpg&hash=076503a1f782e650262ae4dd74930bbde3754033)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on April 09, 2015, 07:24:05 PM
They look quite nice I think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 09, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: riiga on April 09, 2015, 07:24:05 PM
They look quite nice I think.

I agree. Wouldn't mind it being in the MUTCD for Collector signs on Express / Collector freeways, instead of what they do now.

Quote from: 1995hoo on April 05, 2015, 12:59:11 PM
I'm sure I have commented on this before, but I've always liked the convention of using the blue signs over the collector lanes and the green signs over the express lanes (on the 401 in Toronto). I think it makes more sense than the MUTCD system of using the same color for all guide signs and then mandating extra banners on top of the signs to ensure the dumbest drivers out there understand that a sign over a different carriageway is directed at people on that carriageway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on April 10, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg3FciVr.jpg&hash=076503a1f782e650262ae4dd74930bbde3754033)
Whoa!  I wasn't aware of those.  Those are definitely unique.  I assume you found them messing around in GSV?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 10, 2015, 04:46:34 AM
Quote from: signalman on April 10, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

Whoa!  I wasn't aware of those.  Those are definitely unique.  I assume you found them messing around in GSV?

Actually took it myself. I was going from West Houston to the Galleria, and Google Maps directed me to use it. Thankfully I had a tolltag in my rental.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 12, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
A "cutout" DO NOT ENTER sign in Jersey City:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.756285,-74.045263,3a,15y,162.9h,88.13t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMDrRG3Jivsp5Ni_TzZtoZQ!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on April 12, 2015, 10:18:01 AM
^ Just like in Europe.  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on April 12, 2015, 11:19:13 AM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 12, 2015, 11:22:24 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PMEveryone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

HCTRA applied for permission for them from FHWA in 2003.  At that time I think the Westpark Tollway was either the very first or one of the first ETC-only toll roads in the US.  IIRC, it was denied on the grounds that the purple should be narrowly tailored to electronic tolling messages, but HCTRA went ahead and put them up anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 12, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: renegade on April 12, 2015, 11:19:13 AM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:
Wisconsin uses an octagonal do not enter sign in that situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 12, 2015, 12:23:17 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 12, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: renegade on April 12, 2015, 11:19:13 AM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:

Wisconsin uses an octagonal do not enter sign in that situation.

Washington seems to just put the do not enter sign somewhere else.

Is there anything wrong with a cut-out do not enter sign? Is that prohibited somewhere?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NE2 on April 12, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
If you don't know whether a side street has a stop sign, you'll be more cautious if anything.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 12, 2015, 01:38:17 PM
Found this on Tumblr:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F41.media.tumblr.com%2F11f9f49918315d678081283b52e2f0bf%2Ftumblr_nmoo42Kw6t1rpj3m6o1_1280.jpg&hash=6f75aa8caa4b71b2e5183f334c5cd57f119f974a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 12, 2015, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 12, 2015, 12:23:17 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 12, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: renegade on April 12, 2015, 11:19:13 AM
I recalled reading that a STOP sign must "present" as eight-sided from the front.  A square sign mounted behind one, facing the other direction would prevent that.  A cutout would solve that issue, I guess ...  :hmmm:

Wisconsin uses an octagonal do not enter sign in that situation.

Washington seems to just put the do not enter sign somewhere else.

Is there anything wrong with a cut-out do not enter sign? Is that prohibited somewhere?

I don't think there is anything preventing using a cut-out sign for this purpose. It's not standard, but the relevant aspect of the sign still meets the standard regulatory design.

As of the 2009 MUTCD, it is prohibited to put another sign (such as the Do Not Enter) on the back of a stop sign, if that sign would obscure the shape of the stop sign from the opposite direction (so drivers passing from other sides of the intersection can interpret that there is a stop sign on that approach). The manual recommends reducing the size of the second sign or increasing the size of the stop sign to compensate. I would imagine using a cutout of a Do Not Enter meets with this intent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg3FciVr.jpg&hash=076503a1f782e650262ae4dd74930bbde3754033)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on April 13, 2015, 10:19:01 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg3FciVr.jpg&hash=076503a1f782e650262ae4dd74930bbde3754033)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.
Agreed.  Prefer the green signs with a purple tab to denote toll roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 13, 2015, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg3FciVr.jpg&hash=076503a1f782e650262ae4dd74930bbde3754033)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.

I was going to say it looks like the video cable has come partway loose from the computer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on April 14, 2015, 04:19:51 AM
^I'm probably in the minority here, but opinions are like assholes.  Personally, I like the purple signs for toll roads.  However, I wonder how well they can can be read in bad weather or at night.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 14, 2015, 01:30:51 PM
Quote from: signalman on April 14, 2015, 04:19:51 AM
I wonder how well they can can be read in bad weather or at night.
Why would a purple sign be less readable than a green sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on April 14, 2015, 03:35:13 PM
Different color combinations.  Green is used for guide signs in the US because a study conducted in preparation for the interstate highway system where drivers drove around a test track found that green was the most readable, beating out blue and black.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 14, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: signalman on April 14, 2015, 04:19:51 AM
^I'm probably in the minority here, but opinions are like assholes.  Personally, I like the purple signs for toll roads.  However, I wonder how well they can can be read in bad weather or at night.

Purple is my favorite color, so you can imagine that I like these signs as well. You'd be correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on April 14, 2015, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 14, 2015, 01:30:51 PM
Why would a purple sign be less readable than a green sign?
Like Valerie pointed out, the color combinations involved.  Here in the Northeast, purple is used to denote EZ Pass only lanes (interchanges too, for the PA Turnpike).  From personal experience, at night or inclement weather, I can attest to the white on purple not being too easy to read.  I know it's EZ Pass only, but it isn't easily readable from a distance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: authenticroadgeek on April 14, 2015, 08:34:45 PM
Google Street View isn't updated to show this yet, but approaching the junction with UT-265 (University Parkway) on northbound US-89... It's confusing. When you approach the road northbound, instead of SR-265, the JCT sign says US-265. As first when I saw this, I was like: THEY'RE TURNING UNIVERSITY INTO A US ROUTE?! But then I turned left, and the reassurance sign said SR-265.

:poke:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mapman1071 on April 15, 2015, 12:52:06 AM
Quote from: kkt on April 13, 2015, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 09, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Everyone knows about the purple guide signs along the Westpark Tollway in Houston, right? I haven't seen them discussed before. I think they're pretty unique.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg3FciVr.jpg&hash=076503a1f782e650262ae4dd74930bbde3754033)
Unique, yes. But still ugly. It looks like something you see from staring into the sun too long.

I was going to say it looks like the video cable has come partway loose from the computer.


Walt Disney World Uses White on Purple for there signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 18, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
Hungry hungry tree:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtwCzCAi.jpg%3F1&hash=47b1469972e570bc12cdecacaadf2b9da72098e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on April 20, 2015, 05:04:31 PM
Watch out for.......???  Hungry trees???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 20, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on April 18, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
Hungry hungry tree:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtwCzCAi.jpg%3F1&hash=47b1469972e570bc12cdecacaadf2b9da72098e1)

How does that even happen? I know that sign is old, but still, it's just amazing to me. Nature I guess..  :clap:

Maybe in 50 -100 years when the tree dies, the old sign will remain   :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 21, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 20, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
Maybe in 50 -100 years when the tree dies, the old sign will remain   :)

More likely someone will cut it down, begin carving it into firewood and receive a really nasty surprise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on April 22, 2015, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 21, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 20, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
Maybe in 50 -100 years when the tree dies, the old sign will remain   :)

More likely someone will cut it down, begin carving it into firewood and receive a really nasty surprise.

Perhaps nasty... unless said person is a member of our fair hobby.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 22, 2015, 02:35:56 PM
Usually the "dead end" sign is posted on the other side of the street in a diamond.

I know there are plenty of funny-cut signs on this site, I'm just not used to seeing any IRL.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Frj0lfq5.jpg&hash=9052a580f0213e1d0470b16fb1c2745f7c58760d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 22, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
Here's an interesting one in Selma, AL:
http://www.instantstreetview.com/@32.411128,-87.005517,-329.91h,-10.49p,4z
EDIT: Changed link.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 23, 2015, 09:42:15 PM
Found an odd green-on-white Ohio route shield today:

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8818/17224421556_2567d2169d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 28, 2015, 03:20:39 PM
Found a couple of these last week in the Irvington neighborhood of Indianapolis:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvidthekid.info%2Fimghost%2Fweird-font-indy.jpeg&hash=0536b41d5ca817acdafd43eb65486d30aa2a9c8d)

One of them was on westbound Washington Street just past Shadeland; this one was on eastbound Washington just past Johnson Avenue.  I didn't think to look for a sticker on the back.  Anyway, does this odd font have a name?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2015, 12:39:21 PM
Is this the normal "Narrow Bridge" sign? I always thought it was just text.

Tumwater, Washington, along Henderson Boulevard:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9QvUeIr.jpg&hash=2884122b9f7531ae3e907a925f8f92e4307c1977)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on May 01, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Yup, W5-2a in the MUTCD, but removed in 2000 according to the description here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W5-2a.svg).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 01, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2015, 12:39:21 PM
Is this the normal "Narrow Bridge" sign? I always thought it was just text.

Tumwater, Washington, along Henderson Boulevard:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9QvUeIr.jpg&hash=2884122b9f7531ae3e907a925f8f92e4307c1977)

Here's another one:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.apwa.net%2Fimages%2Fphotolibrary%2Flarge%2F052-Narrow-Bridge-Warning-S.jpg&hash=7950e2ff5a1fea07b9a91173d812d6b3a6128171)

I like it actually. Better than a text sign IMO. Not as good as the Canadian / European / Asian etc sign though:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nzta.govt.nz%2Fresources%2Ftraffic-control-devices-manual%2Fsign-specifications%2Fimages%2Fpw05-02-nolabels.gif&hash=6f5072fcf4191905014de605eca2d1ecce8ce236)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 01, 2015, 02:17:57 PM
Here's a variation with a missing piece:
https://goo.gl/maps/zWJVG

SR 616 near Keswick, VA

Mapmikey
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2015, 02:23:34 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 01, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Yup, W5-2a in the MUTCD, but removed in 2000 according to the description here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W5-2a.svg).

??? What the hell? It was in the Millenium Edition, but gone in 2003. You don't see symbols removed from the MUTCD everyday.

Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 01, 2015, 12:56:35 PM
I like it actually. Better than a text sign IMO. Not as good as the Canadian / European / Asian etc sign though:

Very seldom do I prefer American signs to Canadian signs. The "double arrow" sign (W12-1) is one that I prefer, and I think this is the other. Both do a very good job, I just like the lane lines for some reason. Sort of like the Canadian passing lane signs.

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 01, 2015, 02:17:57 PM
Here's a variation with a missing piece:

I would imagine that the signs will slowly be replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 01, 2015, 08:35:41 PM
I know of a bunch near me. I guess I should go out and photograph them!
I'm willing to bet it was removed from the MUTCD because they decided that it wasn't visible enough or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 01, 2015, 09:50:59 PM
When graphic signs first started replacing text signs, I often wondered why "Narrow Bridge" signs weren't originally included. I envisioned something that looked pretty much like what eventually was developed. There are still a few of the graphic signs in this area that haven't been replaced with text. So I guess what's old is new again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Atomica on May 02, 2015, 12:29:23 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 05, 2013, 09:05:16 PM
^ The Aggression and Extreme Prejudice Towards Others, Possibly Involving a Cardinal Direction; I tells 'ya.

Or, Armstrong Flower Fields in Carlsbad, California (https://www.google.com/maps?ll=33.122133,-117.316067&spn=0.01125,0.01929&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=33.122128,-117.315928&panoid=neK1pvJqMMXBrRZA8F7YIA&cbp=12,271.22,,0,1.5). The only time I've seen artwork to complement a couple of BGSs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FPalomarAirport-FlowerFieldBGS.jpg&hash=26ec6beab4957e74a9b80595d33218bd39a3fbba)

I have been known to experiment with artwork on signage myself, and think it could be helpful especially if handling a street or community named for a famous person, as in an historical figure or even a celebrity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 02, 2015, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: vdeane on April 14, 2015, 03:35:13 PM(In discussion of purple-background guide signs on Westpark Tollway in Houston)

Different color combinations.  Green is used for guide signs in the US because a study conducted in preparation for the interstate highway system where drivers drove around a test track found that green was the most readable, beating out blue and black.

Actually, no.  Years ago I asked for a copy of the study and discovered it was a pure popularity contest.  Each of the three combinations was already being successfully used somewhere in the US at the time, and the test subjects were asked to rate the one they found most pleasing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Atomica on May 02, 2015, 02:59:57 AM
Quote from: US71 on December 05, 2013, 11:07:26 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7150%2F6602560053_4c0e7a2b58_z_d.jpg&hash=ebdaf2b26b1b2b737dd44d8442391ef17ed15e90)
Ugly fonts in Oklahoma


Good point:  I note the use of an old-type-looking font that someone suggested looked like a football jersey on the US sign - and the contractor's use of a new OK marker with Series E Modified numbers - which is a carryover from the old OK circle markers, which in the last 10 years of use, also used SEM numbers - which is also noted in my OWN avatar, which is, forgive me, a look at a NON-DIECUT California miners spade if Oklahomans made it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 02, 2015, 09:00:16 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on April 18, 2015, 05:03:27 PM
Hungry hungry tree:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtwCzCAi.jpg%3F1&hash=47b1469972e570bc12cdecacaadf2b9da72098e1)
I've seen trees growing around signs before. On Long Island Avenue at the former intersection near the old alignment of Sills Road, there used to be one that grew around a sign for a motel in Yaphank that's has been a shelter for War Veterans for the past few decades. The Medford Civic and Taxpayers Association wanted to preserve it, and I tried to cut it out for them, but I couldn't do it.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 04, 2015, 12:03:41 PM
I saw a tree that had a 'No Parking' sign mounted on it and the tree grew around half the sign. Someone later came back and ripped off the other half.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 04, 2015, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 01, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Yup, W5-2a in the MUTCD, but removed in 2000 according to the description here (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W5-2a.svg).

Really? I see these all over the place - but I suppose there's possibly some ambiguity to it at first.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on May 05, 2015, 02:49:57 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F56jT8DV.jpg&hash=f04aa75b187e2d219aec3e686045f6a75974b39f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 05, 2015, 03:05:39 PM
^^ When I see such a sign (the lower one on the left) I wonder what we are supposed to caution the children about.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 05, 2015, 03:59:02 PM
https://www.google.ca/maps/@39.627378,-76.085533,3a,49.4y,298.86h,83.96t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sQ6Gaqo-sZfxu2KxvMw4KLQ!2e0

The street view sucks, but I think the LeHay font is on those Maryland shields, and I guess someone from Newport News snuck into Maryland to make that sign, since it looks exactly like a unisign you would find there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: halork on May 05, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Saw this out in eastern Colorado... I don't think this is a good idea.  Just pick one.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8819/17381554982_387beef908_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/stX1Js)milepost-sm (https://flic.kr/p/stX1Js) by halork (https://www.flickr.com/people/29344556@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 05, 2015, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: halork on May 05, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Saw this out in eastern Colorado... I don't think this is a good idea.  Just pick one.

I agree. One of the routes should be primary (probably US-36).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on May 05, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Springfield, MO

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11017525_10205516758430776_3949959891571849286_n.jpg?oh=d12733d1a85e0c43ad49c06bb553dbb6&oe=55DE8DBB)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on May 05, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
Joplin, MO near the new hospital

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11133716_10205516680788835_2919222070023905735_n.jpg?oh=ae2ddc3a74829e2b59a0b98dcacde1d7&oe=55DB6976)

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11209644_10205516680588830_7770090681165640848_n.jpg?oh=be23daaf8d04466366cd2f95a3f05f91&oe=55C3C57F)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 05, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
Joplin, MO near the new hospital

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11133716_10205516680788835_2919222070023905735_n.jpg?oh=ae2ddc3a74829e2b59a0b98dcacde1d7&oe=55DB6976)

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11209644_10205516680588830_7770090681165640848_n.jpg?oh=be23daaf8d04466366cd2f95a3f05f91&oe=55C3C57F)

Pardon my lack of knowledge about this, but this is interesting / unique because we have two digits in a three digit shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 05, 2015, 09:52:35 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 05, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
Pardon my lack of knowledge about this, but this is interesting / unique because we have two digits in a three digit shield?

What seemed interesting to me is that *every* sign on those assemblies seems to be using a wide 3-digit shield design for 2-digit route numbers (even the Missouri route shields).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on May 05, 2015, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 05, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
Pardon my lack of knowledge about this, but this is interesting / unique because we have two digits in a three digit shield?

Spend more time in Louisiana. It will cease to be both unique and interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 06, 2015, 07:49:36 PM
First time I've ever seen a black shield in WA, but there's bound to be more.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7701/17394264851_2f79bc4bc8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sv59W8)
Black I-5 shields in Tukwila (https://flic.kr/p/sv59W8) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/people/70175722@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 06, 2015, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 06, 2015, 07:49:36 PM
First time I've ever seen a black shield in WA, but there's bound to be more.

These are becoming more common, it seems. Have you seen the overhead arrows along Mercer Street?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 06, 2015, 08:01:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 06, 2015, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 06, 2015, 07:49:36 PM
First time I've ever seen a black shield in WA, but there's bound to be more.

These are becoming more common, it seems. Have you seen the overhead arrows along Mercer Street?

Haven't walked down Mercer since the reconstruction project began. I should probably get around to doing that sometime before the new tunnel portal opens (which gives me plenty of time).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 07, 2015, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Springfield, MO

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11017525_10205516758430776_3949959891571849286_n.jpg?oh=d12733d1a85e0c43ad49c06bb553dbb6&oe=55DE8DBB)

Is this sign supposed to redirect trucks and other vehicles over 11'6" onto Grant Avenue or something?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 07, 2015, 12:38:06 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 07, 2015, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Springfield, MO


Is this sign supposed to redirect trucks and other vehicles over 11'6" onto Grant Avenue or something?

Grant Avenue has a height restriction of 11' 6". Pretty brilliant sign, to be honest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 07, 2015, 06:06:14 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 07, 2015, 12:08:52 AM
Quote from: US71 on May 05, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Springfield, MO

(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11017525_10205516758430776_3949959891571849286_n.jpg?oh=d12733d1a85e0c43ad49c06bb553dbb6&oe=55DE8DBB)

Is this sign supposed to redirect trucks and other vehicles over 11'6" onto Grant Avenue or something?

I think the sign is obviously clear. 

If the restriction was on the current road, signs would state vehicles over 11' 6" must turn onto Grant Ave. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on May 07, 2015, 07:24:59 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 06, 2015, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 06, 2015, 07:49:36 PM
First time I've ever seen a black shield in WA, but there's bound to be more.

These are becoming more common, it seems. Have you seen the overhead arrows along Mercer Street?

Columbus, Ohio, has some unisign interstate trailblazers where the direction, I-shield, and arrow are all on a black background.

This example is of a state shield, but they do the same thing with the I-signs:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.000401,-82.975653,3a,75y,321.58h,74.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1soSyfX-HgH5Qm_6hKu_pFhg!2e0!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 07, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
Here's another interesting sign, this time in Scottsboro, AL:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.67462,-86.027339,3a,9.4y,19.51h,85.78t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMGg7nm80F_VNlqS0v0lJtQ!2e0?authuser=1&hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 09, 2015, 10:03:32 AM
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.295732,-76.88082,3a,15y,8.56h,95.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sL13IAQmaAEWvScWFLWaHqw!2e0

'EXIT HERE' is definitely unique here, just like the MUST EXIT signs in Wilmington, Delaware. Also, the down arrow is tilted, a practice that I honestly dislike. To top it all off, the cardinal directions on the right sign look to use Series C or D, and the TO is larger than it should be (and uses the correct typeface)!

And, in the same area, but not quite as interesting:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.295233,-76.880854,3a,15y,45.8h,87.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPDmSpX_YdQf96EZYXHIgoA!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 09, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 09, 2015, 10:03:32 AM
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.295732,-76.88082,3a,15y,8.56h,95.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sL13IAQmaAEWvScWFLWaHqw!2e0

'EXIT HERE' is definitely unique here, just like the MUST EXIT signs in Wilmington, Delaware. Also, the down arrow is tilted, a practice that I honestly dislike. To top it all off, the cardinal directions on the right sign look to use Series C or D, and the TO is larger than it should be (and uses the correct typeface)!

Never seen EXIT HERE before. The Series C use is probably just a space issue. The TO should be 15" numerals I believe; that is certainly larger, probably 16 or larger.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on May 09, 2015, 03:14:14 PM
It's not even correct.  I mean, yes, you are supposed to "exit here", but it's not a lane drop, so the yellow bottom is incorrect.  The advance further back has THIS LANE on an otherwise identical panel.

Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 09, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
The TO should be 15" numerals I believe; that is certainly larger, probably 16 or larger.

There shouldn't be any numerals in TO. :pan:  Semantics aside, the TO doesn't look to be any taller than the N or E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 09, 2015, 05:14:22 PM
Well getting off this one topic, on some of my recent drives along I-75 in Pasco County, I happened to stumble upon what MUTCD has officially designated as "CW8-15P." I should post a picture of that, hopefully later tonight.


UPDATE: Here it is.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKDxtcgP.jpg&hash=d807f6cc1002e2e782c3c8b2b5550d5912e22a71)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on May 10, 2015, 08:14:30 AM
"Caution: Construction Motorcycles"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thephantomcheese on May 10, 2015, 10:20:39 AM
It's more like "Motorcyclists Beware Of Grooved Pavement", as grooved pavement can make a motorcycle's front wheel tramline.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on May 10, 2015, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 09, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
The TO should be 15" numerals letters I believe; that is certainly larger, probably 16 or larger.

I was under the impression that "TO" should be 12" Series E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 10, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on May 10, 2015, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 09, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
The TO should be 15" numerals letters I believe; that is certainly larger, probably 16 or larger.

I was under the impression that "TO" should be 12" Series E.

It should be the same size as ORTH, OUTH, AST, or EST.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 10, 2015, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: vtk on May 10, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on May 10, 2015, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 09, 2015, 02:43:41 PM
The TO should be 15" numerals letters I believe; that is certainly larger, probably 16 or larger.

I was under the impression that "TO" should be 12" Series E.

It should be the same size as ORTH, OUTH, AST, or EST.

Which is 12". I guess I was mistaken when I said 15".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 13, 2015, 01:42:05 AM
Who hasn't covered the white on green US Post Office sign on US 27-301-441 in Ocala, Florida yet?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Non-MUTCD_Post_Office_Sign_on_US_27-301-441_in_Ocala,_FL.JPG

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on May 13, 2015, 06:58:57 AM
That could very well go in "The Worst of Road Signs".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on May 14, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
Yeah really
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on May 15, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
Ugly NYS route shield in Rochester. This and other non standard signs along this stretch of NY 386/Elmgrove Rd. were installed by a contractor for Rochester Technology Park. Most of the signs have been replaced with standard ones but this NYS shield is still there. This is what happens when a private enterprise installs its own road signs on a public highway.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.153538,-77.732366,3a,75y,180h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sTYIy0kQUu5IjzLsYtBkTBQ!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 15, 2015, 06:09:04 PM
I find it odd that WSDOT decided to have the dollar sign on the electronic part of this message sign:

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7796/17033643714_ca5ec0bb39_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rXcSQj)
SR 520 Floating Bridge during rush hour (https://flic.kr/p/rXcSQj) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr

It might be acting as a placeholder for (the small chance of) a $10+ toll.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on May 17, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
I don't think it's too unusual.  Signs on the I-680 Express Lane also include a dollar signs in the electronic portion...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alamedactc.org%2Ffiles%2Fmanaged%2FDocument%2F8206%2FI_680_Southbound_Express_Lane.jpg&hash=0252a26252f308327333370eb51307410a1ab219)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on May 17, 2015, 09:41:03 PM
400 East, Ivins UT (Street View image), where the road was widened but the right gutter was kept in its previous location:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYP1NWbQ.png&hash=538248d5f54696637516cd9663fd9d58c46acdc2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on May 18, 2015, 02:00:19 AM
Found these along Potomac Ave NW in GMSV, warning about a one lane road ahead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.929373,-77.11033,3a,75y,169.36h,79.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sU_KNegVvFkcA1_OKg4MbEg!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.929373,-77.11033,3a,75y,169.36h,79.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sU_KNegVvFkcA1_OKg4MbEg!2e0)
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.928186,-77.109599,3a,75y,328.78h,79.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1suKX6rjBp5ZcLkxuOTI6dwA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.928186,-77.109599,3a,75y,328.78h,79.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1suKX6rjBp5ZcLkxuOTI6dwA!2e0)

Interesting take by DCDOT on how to sign it, but I would prefer VDOT's approach better (standard YIELD sign, auxiliary sign below stating TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 18, 2015, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: HTM Duke on May 18, 2015, 02:00:19 AM
Found these along Potomac Ave NW in GMSV, warning about a one lane road ahead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.929373,-77.11033,3a,75y,169.36h,79.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sU_KNegVvFkcA1_OKg4MbEg!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.929373,-77.11033,3a,75y,169.36h,79.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sU_KNegVvFkcA1_OKg4MbEg!2e0)
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.928186,-77.109599,3a,75y,328.78h,79.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1suKX6rjBp5ZcLkxuOTI6dwA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.928186,-77.109599,3a,75y,328.78h,79.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1suKX6rjBp5ZcLkxuOTI6dwA!2e0)

Interesting take by DCDOT on how to sign it, but I would prefer VDOT's approach better (standard YIELD sign, auxiliary sign below stating TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC).

The second one is better-conforming.  In either case, the NOTICE plaque is entirely unnecessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 19, 2015, 05:02:07 PM
Had to put this here just because of the name. Try to pronounce that.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FOdd%2520Name_zpslnvdotdj.jpg&hash=70fbcf3f5235ac74cb24f300a75fae155261bae0)

http://goo.gl/maps/h7dpk
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 19, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I'm guessing it's pronounced as Idlewood.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 19, 2015, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 19, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I'm guessing it's pronounced as Idlewood.

EYE-da-wild, according to Wikipedia. I guess it makes sense. Replace the y's with i's and it's more pronounceable. Not sure what it means or where it's from.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 19, 2015, 06:34:57 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 19, 2015, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 19, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I'm guessing it's pronounced as Idlewood.

EYE-da-wild, according to Wikipedia. I guess it makes sense. Replace the y's with i's and it's more pronounceable. Not sure what it means or where it's from.

I know how to pronounce it, but only because of my (very brief) time in Edmonton.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on May 20, 2015, 03:56:29 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 19, 2015, 05:08:17 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 19, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I'm guessing it's pronounced as Idlewood.

EYE-da-wild, according to Wikipedia. I guess it makes sense. Replace the y's with i's and it's more pronounceable. Not sure what it means or where it's from.
I read it as "Idle-wild".  Having never been there, nor ever hearing of it, I guess I wasn't too far off base.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on May 22, 2015, 06:59:47 PM
I read it as "Idlewild" too. There are lots of streets, neighborhoods, etc. with that spelling. Since I'm all old as the hills, I can remember that JFK Airport was formerly known at Idlewild, named for the golf course that was replaced by the airport.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 24, 2015, 12:22:23 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.273283,-78.092839,3a,15y,37.92h,90.96t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMbXHH1BnOIg53r5izPVUag!2e0

How many times have you seen a "Route XX" on a freeway guide sign? I'm guessing they ran out of US 11 shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on May 24, 2015, 11:40:35 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 24, 2015, 12:22:23 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.273283,-78.092839,3a,15y,37.92h,90.96t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMbXHH1BnOIg53r5izPVUag!2e0

How many times have you seen a "Route XX" on a freeway guide sign? I'm guessing they ran out of US 11 shields.

This is actually quite common in Louisiana. But instead of using "route", the BGS will read "TO US xx". About 5 years ago, all of the BGSs for I-20's exit 108 were replaced...the old signs had the text & the new ones had TO and a shield (for US 80).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 24, 2015, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on May 24, 2015, 12:22:23 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.273283,-78.092839,3a,15y,37.92h,90.96t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMbXHH1BnOIg53r5izPVUag!2e0

How many times have you seen a "Route XX" on a freeway guide sign? I'm guessing they ran out of US 11 shields.

I believe I have seen those types of signs while casually browsing around street view in the US. Don't have any US examples though.

I only have this example from ON 400 near Barrie where the county road is spelled out:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSpelled%2520Out_zpskrsajbqo.jpg&hash=4d024163612134c85a354ffc85c1e55ba5cc3cb0)

And this redesign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2F400%2520North%2520at%252089_zps9nsz8rfm.png&hash=e005d4537dc2c1465f1cbd4c9dd1ffd01c1bb009)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 24, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
Here's one a FB friend tipped me off on -- from Bluefield WV:

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!1m0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1432522993465!6m8!1m7!1sBrxPj3m83NijGrh5ltgsiA!2m2!1d37.236911!2d-81.26311!3f32.28635780181054!4f-11.062707393473815!5f0.7820865974627469

You may need to play around with GSV for a better view of this sign. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 24, 2015, 11:17:29 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 24, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
Here's one a FB friend tipped me off on -- from Bluefield WV:

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!1m0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1432522993465!6m8!1m7!1sBrxPj3m83NijGrh5ltgsiA!2m2!1d37.236911!2d-81.26311!3f32.28635780181054!4f-11.062707393473815!5f0.7820865974627469

You may need to play around with GSV for a better view of this sign.

It's almost like it's been reused or something. Almost an upside down US hwy shield gone wrong.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 25, 2015, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 09, 2015, 05:14:22 PM
Well getting off this one topic, on some of my recent drives along I-75 in Pasco County, I happened to stumble upon what MUTCD has officially designated as "CW8-15P." I should post a picture of that, hopefully later tonight.


UPDATE: Here it is.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKDxtcgP.jpg&hash=d807f6cc1002e2e782c3c8b2b5550d5912e22a71)



Ohio has begun to use that one in a permanent (yellow, not orange) setup where there is grooved pavement or rumble strips. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mansfield,+OH/@40.782876,-82.415199,3a,55.4y,24.3h,79.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4oWfuvWluFmwWYiB-zN62g!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8839eae2778a1287:0x63083af8142c6f56)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 25, 2015, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 24, 2015, 11:02:45 PM
Here's one a FB friend tipped me off on -- from Bluefield WV:

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!1m0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1432522993465!6m8!1m7!1sBrxPj3m83NijGrh5ltgsiA!2m2!1d37.236911!2d-81.26311!3f32.28635780181054!4f-11.062707393473815!5f0.7820865974627469

You may need to play around with GSV for a better view of this sign.

Bluefield is full of ... um ... interesting road signs, most for VA 102.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 26, 2015, 06:05:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.630448,-74.186192,3a,75y,114.06h,92.78t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKM_oaLB87DtDyIfHhvvFGQ!2e0!6m1!1e1 Interesting DO NOT ENTER at the intersection of Western Avenue and Goethals Road in Staten Island, NY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on May 26, 2015, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2015, 06:05:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.630448,-74.186192,3a,75y,114.06h,92.78t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKM_oaLB87DtDyIfHhvvFGQ!2e0!6m1!1e1 Interesting DO NOT ENTER at the intersection of Western Avenue and Goethals Road in Staten Island, NY.
look closer - that's a misaligned seam in the image, not a quirk of the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 26, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: odditude on May 26, 2015, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2015, 06:05:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.630448,-74.186192,3a,75y,114.06h,92.78t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKM_oaLB87DtDyIfHhvvFGQ!2e0!6m1!1e1 Interesting DO NOT ENTER at the intersection of Western Avenue and Goethals Road in Staten Island, NY.
look closer - that's a misaligned seam in the image, not a quirk of the sign.

Exactly: https://goo.gl/maps/ASnYT
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 26, 2015, 10:44:51 PM
Whatever, it looks so cool in the image that I linked. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 27, 2015, 05:34:00 PM
WSDOT has quite a few signs that read the route without the shield. Here's one for I-705:

"FOLLOW 705 NORTH"

They couldn't be bothered to even write "I-705" -- at least the other signs (https://goo.gl/zwcahe) have "SR" before the number.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6qgklBe.jpg&hash=26ae00112aa6fc6a46cc8a29c01f53704029110e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on May 27, 2015, 07:39:02 PM
Something like this would probably work better.
(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Skyltar/Am17.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 29, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
Anyone have an idea what this means? Never seen it before.

http://goo.gl/maps/4LMnr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on May 29, 2015, 01:55:05 PM
There are two lanes through the roundabout ahead, but you must allow trucks to occupy both lanes (as the been one is doing) rather than attempting to drive alongside, otherwise you shall be viciously crushed, as depicted by the red star.

(In other words, it's the same as the diagram you might see on the back of the truck itself, telling you not to try to pass on the right if the truck is swinging to the left in order to make a wide right turn.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2015, 02:43:06 PM
In British Columbia, they have a supplementary plaque:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXWqDhCx.png&hash=a69c17d60eec40b4f593ebea895d3110fa8bdda7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on May 30, 2015, 06:11:48 PM
I'm only placing this here because truthfully I'm not sure where else it would go.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.119809,-72.609182,3a,41.8y,48.17h,86.49t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYQGAqnTLs-TrVjjp4zmo2A!2e0

Did someone forget to take that sign down? Because if so, that's rather misleading, especially seeing vehicles in the turn lanes ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 30, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
A painted inverted state highway shield, complete with directional trailblazer, under the Aurora Bridge in Seattle.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8849/18065879318_d8303f6d62_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/twqmvU)
Painted SR 99 shield under Aurora Bridge (https://flic.kr/p/twqmvU) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 30, 2015, 11:30:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 30, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
A painted inverted state highway shield, complete with directional trailblazer, under the Aurora Bridge in Seattle.

It looks like an old Jewish woman.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Molandfreak on May 31, 2015, 01:24:49 AM
Guys! Look! Only 2 miles! (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.741828,-92.954794,3a,15y,130.35h,85.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUg-r2V2LE93UO-wTmPh2Bg!2e0?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2015, 01:31:53 AM
Quote from: Molandfreak on May 31, 2015, 01:24:49 AM
Guys! Look! Only 2 miles! (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.741828,-92.954794,3a,15y,130.35h,85.12t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUg-r2V2LE93UO-wTmPh2Bg!2e0?hl=en)

(https://i.imgur.com/NV0Mw.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2015, 06:05:47 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 27, 2015, 07:39:02 PM
...

Riiga, you might like these signs in Seattle. I'm sure they've been posted before, but I do find them rather interesting. I was thinking there wasn't a lot of APLs in Seattle, then I realized that there are actually a couple of them. The second one was installed about 5 years ago, but the first actually had another sign in place for quite a few years (see bottom of post):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKJQjfI6.png&hash=ac9aca1e22c7108b8375184aefe9627c2e794d3e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRnGNlaM.png&hash=18fa4142a30a8ec6faeb77a4512c782e95baec62)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj13t3oC.png&hash=7d5389560af8b045e21e31a33415f2ffe7856ef2)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 31, 2015, 07:40:25 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2015, 11:30:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce on May 30, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
A painted inverted state highway shield, complete with directional trailblazer, under the Aurora Bridge in Seattle.

It looks like an old Jewish woman.

I like it actually. It's clear enough, and even the 9's look like Series B/C hybrid. Still though, pretty good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on May 31, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2015, 06:05:47 PM
Riiga, you might like these signs in Seattle. I'm sure they've been posted before, but I do find them rather interesting. I was thinking there wasn't a lot of APLs in Seattle, then I realized that there are actually a couple of them. The second one was installed about 5 years ago, but the first actually had another sign in place for quite a few years (see bottom of post):
Nice! Not really a fan of the flying arrows on the first sign, but otherwise pretty nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 31, 2015, 09:06:32 PM
In case you're wondering what that "T" symbol above S 154th Street is, it's our (the Seattle metro region's) symbol for a transportation hub. More details from Sound Transit's design manual (http://www.soundtransit.org/Documents/pdf/projects/help/SignageDesignManual.pdf#page=28) (on page 28).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on June 01, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Truck SOS sign on Quebec Route 112 west of Autoroute 73:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FPQ%2FR%2F112%2FR112_SOS.jpg&hash=c59aae79eab81c108a7c85f6a1bef6af807f950e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 01, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on June 01, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Truck SOS sign on Quebec Route 112 west of Autoroute 73:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FPQ%2FR%2F112%2FR112_SOS.jpg&hash=c59aae79eab81c108a7c85f6a1bef6af807f950e)

Anyone know the font that the '2' is in '12'?

An interesting sign. Quebec always does more strange things, but has the best signage in Canada IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 02, 2015, 01:50:14 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 01, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on June 01, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Truck SOS sign on Quebec Route 112 west of Autoroute 73:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FPQ%2FR%2F112%2FR112_SOS.jpg&hash=c59aae79eab81c108a7c85f6a1bef6af807f950e)

Anyone know the font that the '2' is in '12'?

An interesting sign. Quebec always does more strange things, but has the best signage in Canada IMO.

'12%' and '8%' are most likely both in ITC Avant Garde.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 03, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Found this at my university. There are several of these "winged pedestrians" around. I guess this could be posted in vandalized, but I kind of like it.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/W6mP1UEMp3oKu2GEETOzrwgTHxje44LPvglxoas1pFM=w483-h643-no)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on June 03, 2015, 01:37:48 PM
^^ I've seen several of these around my town.  The Velcro® dot at the walking figure's extended arm is supposed to hold an energy-drink can. 

"Red Bull gives you wiiiiings!"

Don't you just LOVE advertising?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on June 07, 2015, 07:24:20 PM
Love driving in Quebec:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2F17percentgrade.jpg&hash=a99cba3135ed494949d22d13605db81a0df5705b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on June 08, 2015, 10:12:17 AM
Traffic heading SB on R-362 in St-Irenee get this sign just before the roundabout:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.57956,-70.213878,3a,90y,287.29h,91.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO_lgtK_09vgQbtVg66w8HA!2e0!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.57956,-70.213878,3a,90y,287.29h,91.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO_lgtK_09vgQbtVg66w8HA!2e0!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 08, 2015, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Bluenoser on June 08, 2015, 10:12:17 AM
Traffic heading SB on R-362 in St-Irenee get this sign just before the roundabout:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.57956,-70.213878,3a,90y,287.29h,91.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO_lgtK_09vgQbtVg66w8HA!2e0!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.57956,-70.213878,3a,90y,287.29h,91.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO_lgtK_09vgQbtVg66w8HA!2e0!6m1!1e1)

Is that a church on that sign? Wow..
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 09, 2015, 05:50:37 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 08, 2015, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Bluenoser on June 08, 2015, 10:12:17 AM
Traffic heading SB on R-362 in St-Irenee get this sign just before the roundabout:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.57956,-70.213878,3a,90y,287.29h,91.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO_lgtK_09vgQbtVg66w8HA!2e0!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.57956,-70.213878,3a,90y,287.29h,91.86t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO_lgtK_09vgQbtVg66w8HA!2e0!6m1!1e1)

Is that a church on that sign? Wow..

I think that's the European "City Centre" symbol. Funny, since this sign seems very European to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on June 09, 2015, 06:17:47 PM
Looks like a variant of the symbol for built-up area which varies in design a bit throughout Europe.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JMoses24 on June 12, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
This should qualify as "ugly". US 52 is *technically* going south, but it would otherwise be eastbound...this is in downtown Cincinnati on Plum Street, just south of the point where 52 exits Central Parkway from the north. US 42 southbound also uses Plum in this area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6BXOtCN.jpg&hash=558f8e5e0958b44947918e8f79dc1ad86ef9ad0c) (http://imgur.com/6BXOtCN)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 12, 2015, 11:39:51 AM
Quote from: JMoses24 on June 12, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
This should qualify as "ugly". US 52 is *technically* going south, but it would otherwise be eastbound...this is in downtown Cincinnati on Plum Street, just south of the point where 52 exits Central Parkway from the north. US 42 southbound also uses Plum in this area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6BXOtCN.jpg&hash=558f8e5e0958b44947918e8f79dc1ad86ef9ad0c) (http://imgur.com/6BXOtCN)

It certainly qualifies as ugly. Another day, another helvetica shield.  :-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on June 12, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
This should qualify as "ugly". US 52 is *technically* going south, but it would otherwise be eastbound...this is in downtown Cincinnati on Plum Street, just south of the point where 52 exits Central Parkway from the north. US 42 southbound also uses Plum in this area.

clipped

I actually quite like it. Though I'm somewhat more used to Helvetica inside shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 12, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on June 12, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
This should qualify as "ugly". US 52 is *technically* going south, but it would otherwise be eastbound...this is in downtown Cincinnati on Plum Street, just south of the point where 52 exits Central Parkway from the north. US 42 southbound also uses Plum in this area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6BXOtCN.jpg&hash=558f8e5e0958b44947918e8f79dc1ad86ef9ad0c) (http://imgur.com/6BXOtCN)

That SOUTH banner has an older-style S where the ends don't quite make vertical. It's probably a bit older than the helvetica 52.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 12, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
Looks more like Franklin Gothic than Helvetica to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on June 13, 2015, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?

Very strange. I wonder if it has something to do with that construction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 13, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?

Don't worry, Ontario does this all the time.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fon%2Ftch_417%2Fe51.jpg&hash=4823e171ad6713103c14986e7266640eafa9cc65)

Courtesy Alps Roads

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 13, 2015, 09:08:02 PM
I've seen "use two lanes" quite a few times at some exit ramps, but I don't think I've ever seen this before...
https://goo.gl/maps/WHmCi
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 13, 2015, 09:29:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 13, 2015, 09:08:02 PM
I've seen "use two lanes" quite a few times at some exit ramps, but I don't think I've ever seen this before...
https://goo.gl/maps/WHmCi

Area has a big issue with people using the shoulder as a passing lane due to often-heavy traffic during the summer and winter months. Instead of widening the corridor (as Warren and Washington Counties have been begging since long before I lived there), that's NYSDOT's solution. People don't follow the signs, either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 14, 2015, 12:06:01 AM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on June 13, 2015, 11:39:04 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?

Very strange. I wonder if it has something to do with that construction.

They've always covered up lane signage in construction zones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 14, 2015, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 13, 2015, 09:29:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 13, 2015, 09:08:02 PM
I've seen "use two lanes" quite a few times at some exit ramps, but I don't think I've ever seen this before...
https://goo.gl/maps/WHmCi

Area has a big issue with people using the shoulder as a passing lane due to often-heavy traffic during the summer and winter months. Instead of widening the corridor (as Warren and Washington Counties have been begging since long before I lived there), that's NYSDOT's solution. People don't follow the signs, either.

I choose...the lane on the left side of the yellow line.

Better options would've been Keep Off Shoulder and/or Do Not Ride Shoulder. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on June 14, 2015, 09:44:49 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?
Florida seems to have a lot of all blued out signs where the vendors stopped paying to be listed on it. Sometimes they'll leave the headers on it, other times they cover that up too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 15, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.767323,-77.880955,3a,19.4y,347.83h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQUw9q7nSNPoYMitCHPxq1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Useful information? I would've just put "END OF ROAD".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 15, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Is there an MUTCD sign that is for the "End of Road"? Or is it just "END OF ROAD"?

If it were in Canada, it would look like this:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2F2654b886c68a39d02b9779d79c0c8078%2Ftumblr_n8qb1mKuhb1r7vmpro1_500.jpg&hash=cbaa2416fd7045581f56b0b2c72b1a1b3e09fb8c)
Not my pic. All credit goes to the author.

I really wonder if a sign is needed there at all. It's not even a road, just a stub.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 15, 2015, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 15, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Is there an MUTCD sign that is for the "End of Road"? Or is it just "END OF ROAD"?

There is. It's the W14-1 ("Dead end" sign) along with Type 4 object markers (red diamond). The W14-1 isn't required, but it's pretty common if it isn't a short stub, at least in the northeast.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 15, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 15, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Is there an MUTCD sign that is for the "End of Road"? Or is it just "END OF ROAD"?

If it were in Canada, it would look like this:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F40.media.tumblr.com%2F2654b886c68a39d02b9779d79c0c8078%2Ftumblr_n8qb1mKuhb1r7vmpro1_500.jpg&hash=cbaa2416fd7045581f56b0b2c72b1a1b3e09fb8c)
Not my pic. All credit goes to the author.

I really wonder if a sign is needed there at all. It's not even a road, just a stub.  :hmmm:

Except you didn't give any credit to the author.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 15, 2015, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 15, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
Except you didn't give any credit to the author.

Well, all credit goes to the author of "Cape Town to Canada" Blog, which is unnamed.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 18, 2015, 02:07:47 AM
Quote from: cl94 on June 15, 2015, 07:12:57 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 15, 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Is there an MUTCD sign that is for the "End of Road"? Or is it just "END OF ROAD"?

There is. It's the W14-1 ("Dead end" sign) along with Type 4 object markers (red diamond). The W14-1 isn't required, but it's pretty common if it isn't a short stub, at least in the northeast.

The "dead end" sign is not equivalent to an end of road sign. It is meant to warn of a road that has no other egress, and is to be placed near the last intersection prior to the end (not at the actual end of the road). However, the red object markers are used specifically for an end of road purpose. In Nevada, there are typically three red object markers posted at the end of the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on June 18, 2015, 10:08:02 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSA6WR2D.jpg%3F1&hash=ba9a1b280ab87d19dee0ecb0f70665d1d1e3904b)

No one honked at me for actually stopping at the stop sign, 20 mph below the advisory speed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 18, 2015, 10:12:04 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on June 18, 2015, 10:08:02 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSA6WR2D.jpg%3F1&hash=ba9a1b280ab87d19dee0ecb0f70665d1d1e3904b)

No one honked at me for actually stopping at the stop sign, 20 mph below the advisory speed.
That is misplacing of the 20 MPH sign. I interpret the assembly like this: Stop sign ahead - you are advised to go 20 MPH at this point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 18, 2015, 10:42:00 AM
But officer, the sign said I could roll through the stop sign at 20 MPH!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 18, 2015, 11:45:58 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on June 18, 2015, 10:42:00 AM
But officer, the sign said I could roll through the stop sign at 20 MPH!!!

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 18, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Umm... Okay?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6819e9f82ee2d33143a8d987cffd7361/tumblr_npt284331h1rlpicfo1_540.jpg)
Found that on Tumblr.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 18, 2015, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 18, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Umm... Okay?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6819e9f82ee2d33143a8d987cffd7361/tumblr_npt284331h1rlpicfo1_540.jpg)
Found that on Tumblr.
Go home sign, yer drunk!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 18, 2015, 07:58:43 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 18, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Umm... Okay?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6819e9f82ee2d33143a8d987cffd7361/tumblr_npt284331h1rlpicfo1_540.jpg)
Found that on Tumblr.
This would have been perfect for the Alanland thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 19, 2015, 12:46:36 AM
Mixed-case directional tab, anyone?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FWest_zpshdoe81xq.jpg&hash=c3c99305c056fd7c927b2fc7c7502a6e381e9b23)

Could be considered a design error I guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Molandfreak on June 19, 2015, 07:24:16 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 18, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Umm... Okay?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/6819e9f82ee2d33143a8d987cffd7361/tumblr_npt284331h1rlpicfo1_540.jpg)
Found that on Tumblr.
I've seen some signs that are similar; in context they make sense. Those are likely for a private parking lot that has a specific entrance and exit. That sign is put up in lieu of a wrong-way sign for the entrance. The exit likely has an "exit only do not enter" sign as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on June 19, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?

If they want to reuse the sign in that location, then it's far cheaper to cover it up in the interim. Full removal of a sign is a good five to ten times more expensive than just sticking up new panels on it. And then it would be that much again to re-install the sign.

Overhead signs are incredibly expensive.


Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 13, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
Don't worry, Ontario does this all the time.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fon%2Ftch_417%2Fe51.jpg&hash=4823e171ad6713103c14986e7266640eafa9cc65)

Courtesy Alps Roads

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/

That's a commercial advertising sign, installed and maintained by a private company. They will re-install new logos on it when they sell the ad space again. If they took the sign down, then they would have to pay crews to take it down; then when they go to replace the sign they would need to get a new permit for the sign, design and install new sign supports, and get a crew to install the new sign. Leaving it blank gets the work done in an afternoon. Taking it up and down takes weeks longer and costs thousands of dollars more.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on June 19, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.502078,-71.15846,3a,32.1y,348.39h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBHcBZW-1QM46UIu9RZ6vNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Also one on MA 38 southbound south of I-95.

I kind of like these actually, anything is better than the bland ass shields we have in the first place for this state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 19, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: Cjzani on June 19, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.502078,-71.15846,3a,32.1y,348.39h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBHcBZW-1QM46UIu9RZ6vNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Also one on MA 38 southbound south of I-95.

I kind of like these actually, anything is better than the bland ass shields we have in the first place for this state.

To me, this just reminds me of the Wisconsin county shield, definitely a similar style.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 21, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
I don't know where to post this. The sign itself isn't odd, it's where its located.

https://goo.gl/maps/Q8sRP

I can't figure it out. It's a merge onto an Interstate, so why the 'No left turn' sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 21, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 21, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
I don't know where to post this. The sign itself isn't odd, it's where its located.

https://goo.gl/maps/Q8sRP

I can't figure it out. It's a merge onto an Interstate, so why the 'No left turn' sign?

A lot of the on-ramps in New Jersey have 'NO TURNS' signs posted. I guess there are instances where people attempt to go the wrong way, however that is possible...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 22, 2015, 06:19:28 AM
Virginia does this as well.  Their practice of this goes back to at least the 1960s:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2F495vintage%2F95Nat495_11.jpg&hash=d7137f809786566cb05e59917646b9db4f40eebb)

Mike
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 10:47:16 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/I3HiH

Anyone know what font this is?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on June 22, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2015, 06:19:28 AM
Virginia does this as well.  Their practice of this goes back to at least the 1960s:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2F495vintage%2F95Nat495_11.jpg&hash=d7137f809786566cb05e59917646b9db4f40eebb)

Mike

I'm old enough to remember when "No Left Turn" signs were rather common toward the end of freeway on-ramps. Freeways were a pretty new concept then, at least in my part of the country. Most drivers were used to turning in whatever direction they wanted to go, so it was not inconceivable that they might get to the end of the ramp and make a left turn.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
How common are these?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSpeed%2520Limit%2520Interesting_zpsfkfp4f81.jpg&hash=c3fbd11efc1c545fb8e78384895866bb451a2e7c)

They aren't in the MUTCD, not that I can find.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 24, 2015, 12:31:41 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
How common are these?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSpeed%2520Limit%2520Interesting_zpsfkfp4f81.jpg&hash=c3fbd11efc1c545fb8e78384895866bb451a2e7c)

They aren't in the MUTCD, not that I can find.
I'm starting to see more of those in PA. They help in a ton of situations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on June 24, 2015, 12:31:41 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
How common are these?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSpeed%2520Limit%2520Interesting_zpsfkfp4f81.jpg&hash=c3fbd11efc1c545fb8e78384895866bb451a2e7c)

They aren't in the MUTCD, not that I can find.
I'm starting to see more of those in PA. They help in a ton of situations.

Ok. The only ones I've seen before are these where I used to live:

http://fightyourtickets.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/20101113_951.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 24, 2015, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:41:37 AM

http://fightyourtickets.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/20101113_951.jpg
Error 1011, access denied.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on June 24, 2015, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
How common are these?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSpeed%2520Limit%2520Interesting_zpsfkfp4f81.jpg&hash=c3fbd11efc1c545fb8e78384895866bb451a2e7c)

The city I grew up in posted a "BEGIN" plaque (commonly used with the center left turn lane signage) above speed limit signs when the speed limit of the road changes.

They aren't in the MUTCD, not that I can find.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on June 24, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
I-65 in Indiana...the US 231 sign is WAY too small:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/504/18448344343_65e03ccfba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u7dA3t)I-65 N exit 205 (https://flic.kr/p/u7dA3t) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

Thornton, IL, on I80/I-294 east...that's a big sign!!!:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/262/18882742149_f9bcf2d0a1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uLAZnP)I-80/I-294 East, Tinley Park, IL (https://flic.kr/p/uLAZnP) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 10:49:41 AM
Quote from: Big John on June 24, 2015, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:41:37 AM

http://fightyourtickets.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/20101113_951.jpg
Error 1011, access denied.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FOnt%2520Sign_zpskdpz3bk9.jpg&hash=67b520f9da863637458cda10a79d72d79896371f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: busman_49 on June 24, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
I-65 in Indiana...the US 231 sign is WAY too small:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/504/18448344343_65e03ccfba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u7dA3t)I-65 N exit 205 (https://flic.kr/p/u7dA3t) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

A 24 x 32? (I don't know the size other than 36 x 48) shield perhaps?

Quote from: busman_49 on June 24, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
Thornton, IL, on I80/I-294 east...that's a big sign!!!:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/262/18882742149_f9bcf2d0a1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uLAZnP)I-80/I-294 East, Tinley Park, IL (https://flic.kr/p/uLAZnP) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

Wow, "Indiana and Iowa" as control cities. Could be redesigned, but also a good candidate for here:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14481.msg2034750#msg2034750
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 24, 2015, 03:01:30 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: busman_49 on June 24, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
I-65 in Indiana...the US 231 sign is WAY too small:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/504/18448344343_65e03ccfba.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/u7dA3t)I-65 N exit 205 (https://flic.kr/p/u7dA3t) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

A 24 × 32? (I don't know the size other than 36 x 48) shield perhaps?


Probably 30×24.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 24, 2015, 08:52:32 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on June 24, 2015, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
How common are these?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSpeed%2520Limit%2520Interesting_zpsfkfp4f81.jpg&hash=c3fbd11efc1c545fb8e78384895866bb451a2e7c)

The city I grew up in posted a "BEGIN" plaque (commonly used with the center left turn lane signage) above speed limit signs when the speed limit of the road changes.

They aren't in the MUTCD, not that I can find.

NYSDOT and NYSTA have been using "begin" plaques as of late. I saw them in Region 5 shortly after I moved there, but these on I-87 in Clifton Park (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.825833,-73.768801,3a,75y,345.38h,87.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKS8anvGVPLZjY8w-xVAf-w!2e0!5s20141001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) were only put up in 2012.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 25, 2015, 01:10:29 AM
Attica OH used to have a "Begin 35 MPH Speed" sign leaving the short 25 zone at the center of town on southbound OH 4, but then one time I saw a chunk of the sign was gone, and the whole thing was taken down soon after.

In Grandview Heights, OH on southbound Grandview Avenue at the top of the hill between First Avenue and Goodale Boulevard, there's a sign that says "End 25 MPH / Begin 35 MPH".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 25, 2015, 09:23:46 AM
Definitely unique. Not sure what else to say about it:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.043812,-70.195361,3a,15y,179.03h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqBAISOPyGsPdk3ByQk3DA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 25, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 25, 2015, 09:23:46 AM
Definitely unique. Not sure what else to say about it:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.043812,-70.195361,3a,15y,179.03h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqBAISOPyGsPdk3ByQk3DA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is that sign text coloured red? Well, NB puts the island on a sign often, usually before on-ramps to highways.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FNB_zpsiklpacrm.jpg&hash=4fb4c845b2fa257b69e1b61e7ef867439a121ab5)

I don't see why they couldn't put a simple left arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on June 25, 2015, 09:35:42 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 25, 2015, 10:58:57 AM

Is that sign text coloured red? Well, NB puts the island on a sign often, usually before on-ramps to highways.


Yes it is. That's why I called it interesting / unique.

Un-related, here's something I can't decide is unique or just ugly:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.225103,-73.058075,3a,28.6y,278.53h,76.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqC3f8nocCmHDwaxg6naBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 25, 2015, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 25, 2015, 09:35:42 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 25, 2015, 10:58:57 AM

Is that sign text coloured red? Well, NB puts the island on a sign often, usually before on-ramps to highways.


Yes it is. That's why I called it interesting / unique.

Ok. I thought that you posted that sign here because of the "island" on the sign.

Quote from: Zeffy on June 25, 2015, 09:35:42 PM
Un-related, here's something I can't decide is unique or just ugly:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.225103,-73.058075,3a,28.6y,278.53h,76.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqC3f8nocCmHDwaxg6naBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'd say unique. The fonts aren't standard, but I'm a fan of the more European style circle signs for purposes like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on June 26, 2015, 05:18:52 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 25, 2015, 09:35:42 PM
Un-related, here's something I can't decide is unique or just ugly:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.225103,-73.058075,3a,28.6y,278.53h,76.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqC3f8nocCmHDwaxg6naBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Unique indeed, and I like it a lot!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on June 26, 2015, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 21, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
I don't know where to post this. The sign itself isn't odd, it's where its located.

https://goo.gl/maps/Q8sRP

I can't figure it out. It's a merge onto an Interstate, so why the 'No left turn' sign?

That's very old school.  Michigan and Indiana up until the early 1980s also used "One Way" signs on both sides of the entry ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on June 27, 2015, 09:48:46 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/bSCJ8

I'll call this Craig County-lite. Good ole Rhode Island. Glad I found this on a bike ride down there today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 30, 2015, 01:02:53 AM
Here's an odd sign over in Decatur. The photo was taken by a good friend of mine.
(https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11540831_898928143479909_8114532021311955361_n.jpg?oh=102a56c6f6844317507fd9355d451985&oe=56319F8B)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 30, 2015, 02:18:03 AM
That's not even retroreflective
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 30, 2015, 02:28:28 AM
Quote from: vtk on June 30, 2015, 02:18:03 AM
That's not even retroreflective

I'm more impressed by the level crossing in the background. All the crossings I can find in Decatur are above- or below-grade.

EDIT: Never mind, I found a whole bunch.

EDIT 2: FreeBrickProductions, you should have mentioned it was in Decatur, Alabama (located at about 190 Vine St NW). I was looking in Georgia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on June 30, 2015, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 30, 2015, 02:28:28 AM
EDIT 2: FreeBrickProductions, you should have mentioned it was in Decatur, Alabama (located at about 190 Vine St NW). I was looking in Georgia.

Now if it were me posting that, you could safely make that assumption. :sombrero:

I can't say we have any signs like that at any of our four (I think) at-grade crossings. I can offer you this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.775578,-84.299459,3a,30y,112.14h,86.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sulocUv6ouUmT_tbYHAK68g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
Some odd looking signage near the Huntsville International Airport in Huntsville, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/335/19387031041_28c21022c0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vxaATT)Odd Signs (https://flic.kr/p/vxaATT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/428/19376787762_480aa30ffe.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwg6VC)Odd Signs (https://flic.kr/p/vwg6VC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/351/19356863446_d92cd17f6a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vuuZ7W)Odd Signs (https://flic.kr/p/vuuZ7W) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A borderless "No turn on red" sign in Ardmore, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/257/18762296473_cfd8967913.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uzXF5e)Borderless No Turn On Red Sign (https://flic.kr/p/uzXF5e) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A speed limit sign with the words "Speed Limit" written in a mixed case in front of the Home Depot near Costco in Huntsville, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/381/19382934015_73895dcd2d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwNAZv)Odd Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vwNAZv) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Doesn't look to use Highway Gothic either.

An odd "No trucks" sign in Florence, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/483/19195354668_b0682d73e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfedbQ)No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/vfedbQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Another odd sign from Florence, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/342/19195352678_bdde333026.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfecAw)Odd No Turn On Red Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vfecAw) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Some of the speed limit signs along Zierdt Road construction project here in Huntsville/Madison, AL use normal speed limit signs. The rest, however, are these:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/348/19196737739_8d51b76ce2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfmijT)Speed Limit 35 Sign in a Diamond (https://flic.kr/p/vfmijT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A white-on-red "No Parking" sign in front of the Costco here in Huntsville, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/429/19195353528_7336b8cc2a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfecRb)Odd No Parking Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vfecRb) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A couple more tiny logo signs along Memorial Parkway in Huntsville, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/311/19382930735_e7fba5a7ef.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwNA1X)Small Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vwNA1X) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/499/19195351978_99fa9b5718.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfecos)Small Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vfecos) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Bessemer, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/279/19195318450_cec642dbda.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfe2qo)Odd Dead End Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vfe2qo) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3833/19196737159_dc96cdc062.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfmi9T)Odd Dead End Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vfmi9T) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Never seen one of these in a diamond before:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/561/19376788132_4aec9604be.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwg731)Slow Children at Play (https://flic.kr/p/vwg731) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 03, 2015, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM

An odd "No trucks" sign in Florence, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/483/19195354668_b0682d73e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfedbQ)No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/vfedbQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr


Never seen one of these in a diamond before:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/561/19376788132_4aec9604be.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwg731)Slow Children at Play (https://flic.kr/p/vwg731) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
#1: Floating trucks aren't allowed on this street?
#2: But what if the children are running...is it legal to run them over?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 03, 2015, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 03, 2015, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
Never seen one of these in a diamond before:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/561/19376788132_4aec9604be.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwg731)
#2: But what if the children are running...is it legal to run them over?

I would think "running" constitutes as "playing".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 03, 2015, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 03, 2015, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 03, 2015, 04:42:59 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
Never seen one of these in a diamond before:

#2: But what if the children are running...is it legal to run them over?

I would think "running" constitutes as "playing".

Without punctuation, I read the sign as literally "Slow Children at Play", with "slow" being a metaphor for "intellectually disabled".

Excluding the use of symbols, I would try and separate the word "Slow" from "Children at Play":

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbZ9PEpz.png&hash=9c221de1aa9606794bbc57bd4348fbc1f8de7c4d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 04, 2015, 09:42:21 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 03, 2015, 06:30:47 PM
Without punctuation, I read the sign as literally "Slow Children at Play", with "slow" being a metaphor for "intellectually disabled".

Excluding the use of symbols, I would try and separate the word "Slow" from "Children at Play":

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbZ9PEpz.png&hash=9c221de1aa9606794bbc57bd4348fbc1f8de7c4d)

The older rectangular versions of those signs had the SLOW emphasized by being larger than the rest of the text, as well as a pictogram of a child running/playing. Here's an example: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.516025,-74.644016,3a,15y,220.59h,84.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUDq66u0tWUrTfcArjJMxSQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm fairly certain I remember older embossed ones with SLOW in black just like your example, but still on a rectangle and not a diamond.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 04, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.809476,-75.358445,3a,15y,365.98h,83.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd-DYI0pl1QI1GF552sIQDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

How are the numbers fading that fast without the rest of the sign fading as well? It almost looks like the numbers were made that color in the first place, which is probably false.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 04, 2015, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 04, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.809476,-75.358445,3a,15y,365.98h,83.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd-DYI0pl1QI1GF552sIQDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

How are the numbers fading that fast without the rest of the sign fading as well? It almost looks like the numbers were made that color in the first place, which is probably false.

Could be a different type of application for the outline and the shield. The outline could have been made independently of the numbers. The outline was made a particular way that is more resistant to fading, then when the numbers were printed, it was done differently. Just my guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 04, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 04, 2015, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 04, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.809476,-75.358445,3a,15y,365.98h,83.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd-DYI0pl1QI1GF552sIQDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

How are the numbers fading that fast without the rest of the sign fading as well? It almost looks like the numbers were made that color in the first place, which is probably false.

Could be a different type of application for the outline and the shield. The outline could have been made independently of the numbers. The outline was made a particular way that is more resistant to fading, then when the numbers were printed, it was done differently. Just my guess.

You will see this on various signs. Occasionally you'll even see one number faded while the other number(s) remain perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 04, 2015, 11:43:51 PM
Often the shields outlines are made as blank, then numbers are applied through a separate process. Making the blanks in large quantities is cheaper, and it makes it easier to quickly put up replacement signs of needed. The downfall is exactly this situation: different materials for the black which fade/peel differently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on July 06, 2015, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 04, 2015, 11:43:51 PM
Often the shields outlines are made as blank, then numbers are applied through a separate process. Making the blanks in large quantities is cheaper, and it makes it easier to quickly put up replacement signs of needed. The downfall is exactly this situation: different materials for the black which fade/peel differently.

But is it too much to ask of a DOT to figure out what sorts of materials will last in its environment?

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/15558262608_bbfdea96b2_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: doorknob60 on July 06, 2015, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM

Some of the speed limit signs along Zierdt Road construction project here in Huntsville/Madison, AL use normal speed limit signs. The rest, however, are these:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/348/19196737739_8d51b76ce2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfmijT)Speed Limit 35 Sign in a Diamond (https://flic.kr/p/vfmijT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr


Is that enforceable? I interpret that as an advisory speed. More specifically, I'd assume that to be a "Speed Zone Ahead" sign. But if there is no standard SPEED LIMIT 35 sign after it, I don't think that's enforceable.

When Nampa, ID does chip sealing on their roads, they use a 20 MPH orange advisory sign, like this (best I could find on Google Images):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreviewcf.turbosquid.com%2FPreview%2F2014%2F08%2F01__20_40_40%2FSIGN-TRAF-speed-20-001.jpg4ca5b00f-c9e2-4659-9cfb-2bbbd8a82c3eRes200.jpg&hash=9dcac25b8987a3d5cd6e63f111a8a68e1bae854b).
They post this directly below the standard SPEED LIMIT 35 sign. Their official FB page and website also uses wording such as "please follow the suggested speed of 20 MPH", implying that it's not illegal to go faster than 20. Actually, last year, on at least one of the streets, they used the same Orange 20 MPH signs but removed the SPEED LIMIT 35 signs. I wonder if someone got a ticket for "speeding" based on 20 MPH, and won in court for there not being a real speed limit sign, leading to the city not taking them down anymore (I'm just speculating on that though).

EDIT: This on their official site http://www.cityofnampa.us/streets :
QuotePlease be mindful of other motorists and drive the suggested posted speed of 20mph.

I'd interpret the sign you posted as the same to what Nampa does, a suggestion, but much worse executed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 06, 2015, 10:02:16 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on July 06, 2015, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM

Some of the speed limit signs along Zierdt Road construction project here in Huntsville/Madison, AL use normal speed limit signs. The rest, however, are these:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/348/19196737739_8d51b76ce2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfmijT)Speed Limit 35 Sign in a Diamond (https://flic.kr/p/vfmijT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr


Is that enforceable? I interpret that as an advisory speed. More specifically, I'd assume that to be a "Speed Zone Ahead" sign. But if there is no standard SPEED LIMIT 35 sign after it, I don't think that's enforceable.

When Nampa, ID does chip sealing on their roads, they use a 20 MPH orange advisory sign, like this (best I could find on Google Images):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreviewcf.turbosquid.com%2FPreview%2F2014%2F08%2F01__20_40_40%2FSIGN-TRAF-speed-20-001.jpg4ca5b00f-c9e2-4659-9cfb-2bbbd8a82c3eRes200.jpg&hash=9dcac25b8987a3d5cd6e63f111a8a68e1bae854b).
They post this directly below the standard SPEED LIMIT 35 sign. Their official FB page and website also uses wording such as "please follow the suggested speed of 20 MPH", implying that it's not illegal to go faster than 20. Actually, last year, on at least one of the streets, they used the same Orange 20 MPH signs but removed the SPEED LIMIT 35 signs. I wonder if someone got a ticket for "speeding" based on 20 MPH, and won in court for there not being a real speed limit sign, leading to the city not taking them down anymore (I'm just speculating on that though).

EDIT: This on their official site http://www.cityofnampa.us/streets :
QuotePlease be mindful of other motorists and drive the suggested posted speed of 20mph.

I'd interpret the sign you posted as the same to what Nampa does, a suggestion, but much worse executed.
There are also standard Speed Limit 35 signs posted along the street in the same portion, so it's most likely enforced. I guess the sign department in charge of signing this project was too cheap to make more speed limit signs so they altered some "Speed Limit 35 Ahead" signs by covering up the arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PMA borderless "No turn on red" sign in Ardmore, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/257/18762296473_cfd8967913.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uzXF5e)
Borderless No Turn On Red Sign (https://flic.kr/p/uzXF5e) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Marblehead, MA has a couple of "home-made" NO TURN ON WALK SIGNAL signs, zoom in. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.494473,-70.867877,3a,26.4y,109.34h,95.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s860GmhzV5FJapa9C5P_f-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 07, 2015, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PMA borderless "No turn on red" sign in Ardmore, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/257/18762296473_cfd8967913.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uzXF5e)
Borderless No Turn On Red Sign (https://flic.kr/p/uzXF5e) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Marblehead, MA has a couple of "home-made" NO TURN ON WALK SIGNAL signs, zoom in.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@42.494473,-70.867877,3a,26.4y,109.34h,95.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s860GmhzV5FJapa9C5P_f-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Wouldn't "NO TURN WHEN PEDESTRIAN IS JAYWALKING" fit?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on July 07, 2015, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 03, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
An odd "No trucks" sign in Florence, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/483/19195354668_b0682d73e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfedbQ)No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/vfedbQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Is this actually an odd sign?  This style is all over a particular section of Woodinville, WA... but if you pan around this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.743532,-122.17495,3a,75y,5.97h,68.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQL6Ws7bMHBghlVDgOTe_ZA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), you can see both this style on the north leg (albeit hidden by a tree), and the probably more common "side profile" style on the east leg.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 07, 2015, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 11:04:05 AMMarblehead, MA has a couple of "home-made" NO TURN ON WALK SIGNAL signs, zoom in.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@42.494473,-70.867877,3a,26.4y,109.34h,95.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s860GmhzV5FJapa9C5P_f-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Wouldn't "NO TURN WHEN PEDESTRIAN IS JAYWALKING" fit?
LOL. 

Truth be told, the WALK signal at that intersection (as with all signalized intersections in Marblehead) only comes on when one presses the button; during that phase; all signals are red.

The reasoning for the sign is due to this intersection being located within close proximity of two schools (the high school and the Bell (elementary) school).  As a result, there's much more pedestrian traffic crossing those streets during school hours (when the WALK signal button is typically pushed quite often).

When it's just a red light and a DONT WALK light displaying; right turns on red are permitted at this intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NYhwyfan on July 07, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
square No Outlet sign

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9138,-75.302754,3a,75y,230.03h,65.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slMjuJtgVIcSH3EEUfvTYnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

"Caution Residential Curbside Parking Ahead"
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.912572,-75.301371,3a,75y,128.54h,72.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saledoSPUUZ9qc2L21X6qWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on July 07, 2015, 10:10:55 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 07, 2015, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 11:04:05 AMMarblehead, MA has a couple of "home-made" NO TURN ON WALK SIGNAL signs, zoom in.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@42.494473,-70.867877,3a,26.4y,109.34h,95.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s860GmhzV5FJapa9C5P_f-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Wouldn't "NO TURN WHEN PEDESTRIAN IS JAYWALKING" fit?
LOL. 

Truth be told, the WALK signal at that intersection (as with all signalized intersections in Marblehead) only comes on when one presses the button; during that phase; all signals are red.

The reasoning for the sign is due to this intersection being located within close proximity of two schools (the high school and the Bell (elementary) school).  As a result, there's much more pedestrian traffic crossing those streets during school hours (when the WALK signal button is typically pushed quite often).

When it's just a red light and a DONT WALK light displaying; right turns on red are permitted at this intersection.

Conceptually, isn't vehicular traffic needing to heed its own signal plus the pedestrian signal against specs though?  The same principle would apply as for using the countdown timers on pedestrian signals to figure how long until the yellow light, but the Marblehead sign actually tells motorists that they need to check the pedestrian signal.  (It beats sitting at a red light for nothing when you could have turned, but I'm just thinking about the concept of it.  A dual-red signal with arrow and circular parts would complicate things.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 08, 2015, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 07, 2015, 10:10:55 PMConceptually, isn't vehicular traffic needing to heed its own signal plus the pedestrian signal against specs though?  The same principle would apply as for using the countdown timers on pedestrian signals to figure how long until the yellow light, but the Marblehead sign actually tells motorists that they need to check the pedestrian signal.  (It beats sitting at a red light for nothing when you could have turned, but I'm just thinking about the concept of it.  A dual-red signal with arrow and circular parts would complicate things.)
The entire signal arrangement in question was erected in 1980 (I remember their installation and the previous signal assemblies very vividly) and the signs have been there since the mid-1990s at the latest; which likely predates the widespread use of pedestrain signal countdowns (which are still optional, not mandatory IIRC).  The pedestrain signals, originally the 2-section DONT WALK/WALK, were replaced with the current single-section upraised palm/pedestrain walking symbols about 6 years ago.

Given the fact that WALK signals light up white and, at least for this intersection, the R-Y-G signalheads are in similar alignment with most of the pedestrain signals; I don't believe that a stopped motorist is not going to see the concurrent white WALK signal with the red light.  Besides, it's not like this stretch of Pleasant St. (MA 114) is a high-speed roadway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on July 08, 2015, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 08, 2015, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on July 07, 2015, 10:10:55 PMConceptually, isn't vehicular traffic needing to heed its own signal plus the pedestrian signal against specs though?  The same principle would apply as for using the countdown timers on pedestrian signals to figure how long until the yellow light, but the Marblehead sign actually tells motorists that they need to check the pedestrian signal.  (It beats sitting at a red light for nothing when you could have turned, but I'm just thinking about the concept of it.  A dual-red signal with arrow and circular parts would complicate things.)
The entire signal arrangement in question was erected in 1980 (I remember their installation and the previous signal assemblies very vividly) and the signs have been there since the mid-1990s at the latest; which likely predates the widespread use of pedestrain signal countdowns (which are still optional, not mandatory IIRC).  The pedestrain signals, originally the 2-section DONT WALK/WALK, were replaced with the current single-section upraised palm/pedestrain walking symbols about 6 years ago.

Given the fact that WALK signals light up white and, at least for this intersection, the R-Y-G signalheads are in similar alignment with most of the pedestrain signals; I don't believe that a stopped motorist is not going to see the concurrent white WALK signal with the red light.  Besides, it's not like this stretch of Pleasant St. (MA 114) is a high-speed roadway.

Indeed, it's easy to see them--but I have always wondered about the spirit of the rules of which signals to have to look at.  MUTCD forbids countdown timers on vehicular signals, for example, but that hasn't stopped some officials in Chicago who are sick of the red light cameras but can't get enough traction to get rid of them to try requiring pedestrian countdown timers anywhere there is a camera--so that motorists can see the countdown.  Not the intention or spirit of the countdown timers, but an interesting usage.  (I'm fully for getting rid of the cameras, fwiw--or at least having the pedestrian countdowns for the purpose mentioned.  I'm not in favor of following the letter of the law that FHWA or MUTCD might have a beef with.  Similar with the Marblehead example--no problem really, but it's an interesting thing to ponder that motorists are being told to also watch the pedestrian signal, something usually not encouraged never mind required.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 08, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 07, 2015, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 07, 2015, 11:04:05 AMMarblehead, MA has a couple of "home-made" NO TURN ON WALK SIGNAL signs, zoom in.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@42.494473,-70.867877,3a,26.4y,109.34h,95.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s860GmhzV5FJapa9C5P_f-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Wouldn't "NO TURN WHEN PEDESTRIAN IS JAYWALKING" fit?
LOL. 

Truth be told, the WALK signal at that intersection (as with all signalized intersections in Marblehead) only comes on when one presses the button; during that phase; all signals are red.

The reasoning for the sign is due to this intersection being located within close proximity of two schools (the high school and the Bell (elementary) school).  As a result, there's much more pedestrian traffic crossing those streets during school hours (when the WALK signal button is typically pushed quite often).

When it's just a red light and a DONT WALK light displaying; right turns on red are permitted at this intersection.

It sounds like what you are describing is an all-pedestrian phase, or a Barnes Dance.  Essentially, the signal has 3 phases: N-S, E-W, and pedestrian.  If the pedestrians have right of way, all drivers including right turns must stop.  But if cross-traffic has right  of way, then right on red is permitted.

I've not seen this implemented the way Marblehead does.  But I have seen electronic "No turn on red" signs that light up during the pedestrian phase of a Barnes Dance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 09, 2015, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 08, 2015, 09:47:15 PMIt sounds like what you are describing is an all-pedestrian phase, or a Barnes Dance.  Essentially, the signal has 3 phases: N-S, E-W, and pedestrian.  If the pedestrians have right of way, all drivers including right turns must stop.  But if cross-traffic has right  of way, then right on red is permitted.

I've not seen this implemented the way Marblehead does.  But I have seen electronic "No turn on red" signs that light up during the pedestrian phase of a Barnes Dance.
What Marblehead did was essentially act on the cheap & quick to accomplish such.  Erecting simple signs (made by the town's public works department) takes less time than installing and rewiring for electronic signs that may require a permit from the state (the signal replacement was a MassDPW installation).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 09, 2015, 02:18:40 PM
Right now I can't seem to find the thread on this, but for a long time I've been surprised that the pre-1971 "Keep Right" signs were still considered MUTCD compliant. Here's one under Simpson Street Subway station in the South Bronx.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old-fashioned_Keep_Right_sign_under_Simpson_Street_Subway_Station.JPG

When I first saw the symbolic one in that Reader's Digest article from 1971, I was under the impression that the older Keep Right signs would be completely replaced. So for years I've been surprised when I see states, cities, counties, towns, and villages still using them.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 09, 2015, 02:34:10 PM
Quote from: NYhwyfan on July 07, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
square No Outlet sign

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9138,-75.302754,3a,75y,230.03h,65.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slMjuJtgVIcSH3EEUfvTYnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Isn't something like this normally added as a supplement for Dead End signs?

Did you know that right up until at least the 1990's I remember seeing Dead End over No Outlet signs in the same diamond at the intersections of some of the dead end streets along Roanoke Avenue in Riverhead, New York?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 09, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
Dead End means the road will end with no other road connecting with it.  No Outlet means there still is a network of roads ahead but no other access point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 09, 2015, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 09, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
Dead End means the road will end with no other road connecting with it.  No Outlet means there still is a network of roads ahead but no other access point.
Not true in this case (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Secane+Ave,+Clifton+Heights,+PA+19018/@39.913411,-75.30931,3a,75y,74.26h,80.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_IlxQ8lbpEWTl6PmD28QaA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D_IlxQ8lbpEWTl6PmD28QaA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D117.78568%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c6c2339f6d1b6b:0xf3a7a8f1a36de43c).  Franklin Way has no intersecting roadways.  PA (at least southeastern PA) uses NO OUTLET signs in situations where other states (MA being one of them) uses DEAD END signs.

Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 09, 2015, 02:18:40 PM
Right now I can't seem to find the thread on this, but for a long time I've been surprised that the pre-1971 "Keep Right" signs were still considered MUTCD compliant. Here's one under Simpson Street Subway station in the South Bronx.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old-fashioned_Keep_Right_sign_under_Simpson_Street_Subway_Station.JPG

When I first saw the symbolic one in that Reader's Digest article from 1971, I was under the impression that the older Keep Right signs would be completely replaced. So for years I've been surprised when I see states, cities, counties, towns, and villages still using them.
Marblehead, MA still uses them (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.513543,-70.859517,3a,75y,29.26h,78.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sga_Lvf9wLXkRdixikJ6TQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

So does neighboring Swampscott, MA (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.475423,-70.88492,3a,75y,75.42h,69.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su9gYzvBYV9upN48c9kFD6A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1).

Here's a bonus, further east on Atlantic Ave.; a surviving old MA 129 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.476904,-70.883312,3a,75y,279.25h,71.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOLxjrpbKDaymBifpaf3z3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) from probably the 1960s.  For many years, during the 70s, this particular shield used to face the opposite direction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 09, 2015, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 09, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
Dead End means the road will end with no other road connecting with it.  No Outlet means there still is a network of roads ahead but no other access point.

In places where I lived, that is mostly true, but if a single road is marked as a Dead End, it means there is usually no large area -- or cul-de-sac -- at the end to turn around in. A No Outlet sign for a single street has some sort of space at the end in which to turn around without using people's driveways.  The Dead End vs. No Outlet designation is more important to trucks and larger vehicles than cars.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
Never liked the "dead end" sign. I think Canada's version make more sense without trying to be funny (the term "dead end" just sounds ridiculous to me):

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Canada_-_Cul-de-sac_%28PEI%29.svg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on July 09, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
Never liked the "dead end" sign. I think Canada's version make more sense without trying to be funny (the term "dead end" just sounds ridiculous to me):

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Canada_-_Cul-de-sac_%28PEI%29.svg)

Yes but the reason a dead end warrants a warning sign in the first place is there isn't room at the end to perform the maneuver shown on your example sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2015, 08:31:50 PM
Quote from: vtk on July 09, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
Never liked the "dead end" sign. I think Canada's version make more sense without trying to be funny (the term "dead end" just sounds ridiculous to me):

Yes but the reason a dead end warrants a warning sign in the first place is there isn't room at the end to perform the maneuver shown on your example sign.

Well, then Washington mis-uses dead-end signs a lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on July 09, 2015, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: vtk on July 09, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
Never liked the "dead end" sign. I think Canada's version make more sense without trying to be funny (the term "dead end" just sounds ridiculous to me):

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Canada_-_Cul-de-sac_%28PEI%29.svg)

Yes but the reason a dead end warrants a warning sign in the first place is there isn't room at the end to perform the maneuver shown on your example sign.

Places I'm familiar with, if there's no room to turn around it's "blind street".  If there's room to turn around, either a circle like on the sign or a 3-point turn, it's "dead end".  If there are several streets but no way out of the subdivision but the way you're about to go in, it's "no outlet".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on July 09, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
Here's a couple from some travels the past few months. This I-10 shield is in Metairie, LA along US 61 I think just before Williams Blvd (LA 49)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3778/18884595714_a04cdb44a6_k.jpg)



Why the long face US 71? This is Bunkie, LA at LA 29.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/343/19317347379_4edaa87eed_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on July 10, 2015, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: vtk on July 09, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
Never liked the "dead end" sign. I think Canada's version make more sense without trying to be funny (the term "dead end" just sounds ridiculous to me):

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Canada_-_Cul-de-sac_%28PEI%29.svg)

Yes but the reason a dead end warrants a warning sign in the first place is there isn't room at the end to perform the maneuver shown on your example sign.
You could use the European sign then, or a modified version of it on a warning sign.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Sweden_road_sign_E17-1.svg/100px-Sweden_road_sign_E17-1.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: luokou on July 10, 2015, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on July 09, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
Here's a couple from some travels the past few months. This I-10 shield is in Metairie, LA along US 61 I think just before Williams Blvd (LA 49)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3778/18884595714_a04cdb44a6_k.jpg)

Reminds me of this I-205 shield with ridiculously small numerals:

https://goo.gl/maps/n5DM1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 12, 2015, 05:42:41 PM
Spotted in Philadelphia, I present to you - the CONSTRUCTION APL with negative contrast Clearview, and not one control city for I-95:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsUN19W.png&hash=55ddaa2663b64f03048f8444513162bb6b14911b)

I mean come on, both Wilmington and Baltimore would've worked for control cities instead of that obnoxious orange space.

And then there was this, spotted in Maryland right before the bullshit toll over the Susquehanna River:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTElufUp.png&hash=843b2a388667d8e06fb143fab03ef49cba9a5464)

White on black was usually used for older signs, and this one has Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 12, 2015, 11:41:43 PM
IMO, faulting signs should be limited to permanent installations. I have some leeway with construction signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on July 13, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
Lately Georgia is having a hard time deciding whether exit only tabs should have black borders or white. Apparently "both" is another option...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGUSIjVc.jpg%3F1&hash=da66baa1edd076e14e68fd09a08aa859cacc9f6f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 13, 2015, 01:33:53 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on July 13, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
Lately Georgia is having a hard time deciding whether exit only tabs should have black borders or white. Apparently "both" is another option...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGUSIjVc.jpg%3F1&hash=da66baa1edd076e14e68fd09a08aa859cacc9f6f)

Not centred either. Looks pretty lazy to me. Also, even though Ontario (and other jurisdictions) do this, I'm not a fan of putting up "exit only" at the gore point.  The left lane of the exit lane is not "exit only" until, of course where it actually splits off the highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on July 13, 2015, 01:54:40 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 12, 2015, 05:42:41 PM
Spotted in Philadelphia, I present to you - the CONSTRUCTION APL with negative contrast Clearview, and not one control city for I-95:

(snipped image)

I mean come on, both Wilmington and Baltimore would've worked for control cities instead of that obnoxious orange space.
the original sign that this replaced had "Philadelphia (or Phila) Int'l Airport" covered in greenout.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 13, 2015, 02:43:04 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 13, 2015, 01:33:53 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on July 13, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
Lately Georgia is having a hard time deciding whether exit only tabs should have black borders or white. Apparently "both" is another option...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGUSIjVc.jpg%3F1&hash=da66baa1edd076e14e68fd09a08aa859cacc9f6f)

Not centred either. Looks pretty lazy to me. Also, even though Ontario (and other jurisdictions) do this, I'm not a fan of putting up "exit only" at the gore point.  The left lane of the exit lane is not "exit only" until, of course where it actually splits off the highway.

You can thank the 2009 MUTCD for that. This is the new standard for multi-lane exits with option lanes: no white-on-green down arrow over the option lanes on the advance sign, exit only arrow design on sign at the exit (with the sign moved beyond the gore point instead of at it).

I'm not a fan either. I could live with no down arrow on the advance signage, if we could just keep the old white-on-green arrow over the option lane at the exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 13, 2015, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: odditude on July 13, 2015, 01:54:40 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 12, 2015, 05:42:41 PM
Spotted in Philadelphia, I present to you - the CONSTRUCTION APL with negative contrast Clearview, and not one control city for I-95:

(snipped image)

I mean come on, both Wilmington and Baltimore would've worked for control cities instead of that obnoxious orange space.
the original sign that this replaced had "Philadelphia (or Phila) Int'l Airport" covered in greenout.
It had a Philadelphia Int'l Airport listing via 2-lines.  For some reason, a few years after the BGS' were erected, the destination was greened-out.   Similar green-out treatment (IIRC for the Sports Complex) was done on supplemental signage along I-76 East prior to I-676.  It's almost as if PennDOT or the city wanted to give motorists the option of using I-676 as a means of getting to the airport or sports complex from the northeast or northwest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on July 13, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on July 13, 2015, 12:57:19 AM
Lately Georgia is having a hard time deciding whether exit only tabs should have black borders or white. Apparently "both" is another option...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGUSIjVc.jpg%3F1&hash=da66baa1edd076e14e68fd09a08aa859cacc9f6f)

"Here's a blank sign, and everything that needs to go on it. It's your job to figure out where everything goes. You have 15 seconds. Go!"  :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 14, 2015, 06:36:21 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 12, 2015, 05:42:41 PM
Spotted in Philadelphia, I present to you - the CONSTRUCTION APL with negative contrast Clearview, and not one control city for I-95:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsUN19W.png&hash=55ddaa2663b64f03048f8444513162bb6b14911b)

I mean come on, both Wilmington and Baltimore would've worked for control cities instead of that obnoxious orange space.


Maryland ignores Philadelphia.  You're lucky PennDOT didn't urge the the sign company to write "Baltimore can suck it" as a control city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on July 14, 2015, 03:33:20 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 14, 2015, 06:36:21 AM
Maryland ignores Philadelphia.  You're lucky PennDOT didn't urge the the sign company to write "Baltimore can suck it" as a control city.

It would be even better if PennDOT just put "Washington."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 17, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
While this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Bng2Y in itself isn't unusual, the location defining it as a 'residential' area is.  https://goo.gl/maps/BrfPu

Plus, it's a bit small and low for most truckers.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on July 17, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 17, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
While this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Bng2Y in itself isn't unusual, the location defining it as a 'residential' area is.  https://goo.gl/maps/BrfPu

Plus, it's a bit small and low for most truckers.
US 1 immediately passes by several residential complexes after going over NJ 29 - it's not inappropriate here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
This BGS actually shows the edges of ramps. Located just west of I-90's western terminus in Seattle.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/388/19162659153_8682a64ed0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4)
Approaching the terminus of I-90 (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 17, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
This BGS actually shows the edges of ramps. Located just west of I-90's western terminus in Seattle.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/388/19162659153_8682a64ed0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4)
Approaching the terminus of I-90 (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
This sign has gotten bashed by the ugly stick and needs desperate help.

1. I-90 and TO I-5 is not centered.
2. Spokane should be removed.
3. So is City Center via I-90 or 4th Ave. North?
4. Is 4th Ave. really that close?
5. There should be no line between Spokane and North.
6. The arrow for 4th Ave. South should be shorter.
7. Center line striping is pointless.
8. Is this an APL? Because it failed miserably at being one.
9. Patch over TO I-5 so that the I-90 East text and Spokane can be centered.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
A sign with weird restrictions (on an overpass near the Port of Seattle):

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/19161003384_fcb4aa1c84_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vcc9Kj)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 17, 2015, 10:20:03 PM
I've seen that type of sign before, IMO the "weird" wording is "STANDING"

I believe it has the same meaning as in NYC: http://www.newyorksafetycouncil.com/articles/no-parking-vs-no-standing-vs-no-stopping-signs.aspx
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 17, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
A sign with weird restrictions (on an overpass near the Port of Seattle):

In particular, the time (0300 to 0645) is rather odd. Most people aren't even commuting to work until 0500.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on July 17, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 17, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
This BGS actually shows the edges of ramps. Located just west of I-90's western terminus in Seattle.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/388/19162659153_8682a64ed0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4)
Approaching the terminus of I-90 (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
This sign has gotten bashed by the ugly stick and needs desperate help.

1. I-90 and TO I-5 is not centered. Actually, it is.
2. Spokane should be removed. Why? It's the destination city for I-90.
3. So is City Center via I-90 or 4th Ave. North? I would say 4th Ave North.
4. Is 4th Ave. really that close? Yes.
5. There should be no line between Spokane and North. Why not? Two separate things. Spokane is the control city for I-90 EAST. NORTH is the left-hand turn for 4th Avenue NORTH.
6. The arrow for 4th Ave. South should be shorter. I can see that, but rather it's the outline of the ramps that aren't MUTCD standard.
7. Center line striping is pointless. Not in this case, considering one is eastbound on 519 heading towards I-90. It clearly shows where you need to be for the 4th Street SPUI.
8. Is this an APL? Because it failed miserably at being one. It's not.
9. Patch over TO I-5 so that the I-90 East text and Spokane can be centered. Why? If you look at the actual road, you see that the next set of BGS' after 4th Street are for the exits for I-5. I-5 is a pretty important destination from here, I'd think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 17, 2015, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 17, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
This BGS actually shows the edges of ramps. Located just west of I-90's western terminus in Seattle.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/388/19162659153_8682a64ed0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4)
Approaching the terminus of I-90 (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
This sign has gotten bashed by the ugly stick and needs desperate help.

1. I-90 and TO I-5 is not centered.
2. Spokane should be removed.
3. So is City Center via I-90 or 4th Ave. North?
4. Is 4th Ave. really that close?
5. There should be no line between Spokane and North.
6. The arrow for 4th Ave. South should be shorter.
7. Center line striping is pointless.
8. Is this an APL? Because it failed miserably at being one.
9. Patch over TO I-5 so that the I-90 East text and Spokane can be centered.

Please refer to this for "bashed by the ugly stick" signs.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3521.msg78212#msg78212
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 18, 2015, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: odditude on July 17, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 17, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
While this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Bng2Y in itself isn't unusual, the location defining it as a 'residential' area is.  https://goo.gl/maps/BrfPu

Plus, it's a bit small and low for most truckers.
US 1 immediately passes by several residential complexes after going over NJ 29 - it's not inappropriate here.

No, US 1 immediately passes over a river after going over NJ 29. Want to prohibit truckers from using the Jake brake?  Simply say "Jake Brake Prohibited".   And make it larger. And place it at the height of truckers' windshields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 18, 2015, 09:47:59 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 18, 2015, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: odditude on July 17, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 17, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
While this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Bng2Y in itself isn't unusual, the location defining it as a 'residential' area is.  https://goo.gl/maps/BrfPu

Plus, it's a bit small and low for most truckers.
US 1 immediately passes by several residential complexes after going over NJ 29 - it's not inappropriate here.

No, US 1 immediately passes over a river after going over NJ 29. Want to prohibit truckers from using the Jake brake?  Simply say "Jake Brake Prohibited".   And make it larger. And place it at the height of truckers' windshields.
The maker of Jake brakes has made it clear to highway departments not to mention that name on highway signs with threats of lawsuits of trademark infringement.  That it why you can see substitute writing on such signs, such as "No Compression Braking".  Though you still see some No Jake Brakes still around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 18, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
DO NOT ENTER...what exactly?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.454411,-74.839229,3a,90y,285.38h,84.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27ngni9Eub9RGEgAgWbhbg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on July 18, 2015, 01:07:14 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on July 17, 2015, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 17, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
This BGS actually shows the edges of ramps. Located just west of I-90's western terminus in Seattle.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/388/19162659153_8682a64ed0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4)
Approaching the terminus of I-90 (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
This sign has gotten bashed by the ugly stick and needs desperate help.

1. I-90 and TO I-5 is not centered. Actually, it is.
2. Spokane should be removed. Why? It's the destination city for I-90.
3. So is City Center via I-90 or 4th Ave. North? I would say 4th Ave North.
4. Is 4th Ave. really that close? Yes.
5. There should be no line between Spokane and North. Why not? Two separate things. Spokane is the control city for I-90 EAST. NORTH is the left-hand turn for 4th Avenue NORTH.
6. The arrow for 4th Ave. South should be shorter. I can see that, but rather it's the outline of the ramps that aren't MUTCD standard.
7. Center line striping is pointless. Not in this case, considering one is eastbound on 519 heading towards I-90. It clearly shows where you need to be for the 4th Street SPUI.
8. Is this an APL? Because it failed miserably at being one. It's not.
9. Patch over TO I-5 so that the I-90 East text and Spokane can be centered. Why? If you look at the actual road, you see that the next set of BGS' after 4th Street are for the exits for I-5. I-5 is a pretty important destination from here, I'd think.


Of all the Signs that have been put in Seattle in the last 20 years, this is likely the most useful of them all.  It actually tells you what is going to happen at an upcoming Intersection, including what happens if you go straight.  There is a lot of information to share, and this does it well, IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 18, 2015, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 18, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
DO NOT ENTER...what exactly?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.454411,-74.839229,3a,90y,285.38h,84.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27ngni9Eub9RGEgAgWbhbg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
Looks like someone may have been taking a shortcut into the subdivision by driving through the field so the sign is saying don't do that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on July 18, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 17, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
A sign with weird restrictions (on an overpass near the Port of Seattle):

In particular, the time (0300 to 0645) is rather odd. Most people aren't even commuting to work until 0500.

When I see time restrictions like that, it is usually to allow either street sweeping or garbage collection. Both those activities typically occur in the wee hours in many areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 18, 2015, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 18, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
DO NOT ENTER...what exactly?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.454411,-74.839229,3a,90y,285.38h,84.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27ngni9Eub9RGEgAgWbhbg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
"Hmm, so I tried driving on this field yesterday to get to my house...now they put up that sign! Great, now I can't save time trying to get to my house!"

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 18, 2015, 04:31:13 PM
Huntsville, AL recently put up these signs on a street near my house. Never seen them before:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/537/19812530681_7ba440419a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wbLp7z)Police Station Sign (https://flic.kr/p/wbLp7z) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/494/19621102739_c15e2a1a02.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTRhfP)Police Station Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vTRhfP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's a slightly odd sign at Auburn University in Auburn, AL. It's mostly the font that is weird:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/381/19185201334_f47324e501.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vekaXm)Cross Only At Crosswalks (https://flic.kr/p/vekaXm) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Should be self explanatory. Anyone seen these anywhere else? I've only seen these in St. Clair County, AL (where this one was photographed).
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/356/19800511992_736a6dc30e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/waGNnN)School Bus Entering Ahead (https://flic.kr/p/waGNnN) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on July 18, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
I suppose this sign isn't really that interesting aside from the fact that it uses an older layout that hasn't been used for a couple of decades.  It will be replaced in the next couple of years due to an ongoing highway widening project:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_401_images%2F401_dv_473_west_Jul15_forum.jpg&hash=02a28cfc3c85d619b3d4e8e8a6a6dda311d471b7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 19, 2015, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
A sign with weird restrictions (on an overpass near the Port of Seattle):

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/19161003384_fcb4aa1c84_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vcc9Kj)

I find this most interesting because it is using black text instead of the standard red text. I've seen instances of the "No parking, standing or stopping" language before. The time is odd though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 19, 2015, 01:52:24 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 18, 2015, 04:31:13 PM
Huntsville, AL recently put up these signs on a street near my house. Never seen them before:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/537/19812530681_7ba440419a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wbLp7z)Police Station Sign (https://flic.kr/p/wbLp7z) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/494/19621102739_c15e2a1a02.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTRhfP)Police Station Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vTRhfP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's a slightly odd sign at Auburn University in Auburn, AL. It's mostly the font that is weird:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/381/19185201334_f47324e501.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vekaXm)Cross Only At Crosswalks (https://flic.kr/p/vekaXm) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr


The police sign surprised me, because I thought there was a standard symbol for this. I have seen a symbol sign in Reno, Nevada for the highway patrol. It looks like the seven-pointed badge.

The crosswalk one is weird, because there is no good explanation. There is an MUTCD standard sign with this exact text, so why the oddball font?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 19, 2015, 01:55:06 AM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on July 18, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
I suppose this sign isn't really that interesting aside from the fact that it uses an older layout that hasn't been used for a couple of decades.  It will be replaced in the next couple of years due to an ongoing highway widening project:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_401_images%2F401_dv_473_west_Jul15_forum.jpg&hash=02a28cfc3c85d619b3d4e8e8a6a6dda311d471b7)

That guy is old (80's most likely). Not "best of", but definitely up there IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on July 19, 2015, 02:45:50 AM
Quote from: theline on July 18, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 17, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
A sign with weird restrictions (on an overpass near the Port of Seattle):

In particular, the time (0300 to 0645) is rather odd. Most people aren't even commuting to work until 0500.

When I see time restrictions like that, it is usually to allow either street sweeping or garbage collection. Both those activities typically occur in the wee hours in many areas.

Or they really meant PM.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 19, 2015, 07:40:06 AM
Quote from: kkt on July 19, 2015, 02:45:50 AM
Quote from: theline on July 18, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 17, 2015, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 09:49:39 PM
A sign with weird restrictions (on an overpass near the Port of Seattle):

In particular, the time (0300 to 0645) is rather odd. Most people aren't even commuting to work until 0500.

When I see time restrictions like that, it is usually to allow either street sweeping or garbage collection. Both those activities typically occur in the wee hours in many areas.

Or they really meant PM.

I'm also aware of similar signs, overnight parking restrictions, to prevent people from sleeping in their cars in residential neighborhoods.  Sometimes there are permit exceptions. 

For instance, Beverly Hills, CA has a citywide restriction from 2 AM to 5 AM.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 19, 2015, 07:41:45 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 18, 2015, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 18, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
DO NOT ENTER...what exactly?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.454411,-74.839229,3a,90y,285.38h,84.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27ngni9Eub9RGEgAgWbhbg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
"Hmm, so I tried driving on this field yesterday to get to my house...now they put up that sign! Great, now I can't save time trying to get to my house!"
Enough people probably do that drive, so they put up a sign.  Prevent tire tracks on the grass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 19, 2015, 07:49:56 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 17, 2015, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 17, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 17, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
This BGS actually shows the edges of ramps. Located just west of I-90's western terminus in Seattle.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/388/19162659153_8682a64ed0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4)
Approaching the terminus of I-90 (https://flic.kr/p/vckCX4) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
This sign has gotten bashed by the ugly stick and needs desperate help.

1. I-90 and TO I-5 is not centered.
2. Spokane should be removed.
3. So is City Center via I-90 or 4th Ave. North?
4. Is 4th Ave. really that close?
5. There should be no line between Spokane and North.
6. The arrow for 4th Ave. South should be shorter.
7. Center line striping is pointless.
8. Is this an APL? Because it failed miserably at being one.
9. Patch over TO I-5 so that the I-90 East text and Spokane can be centered.

Please refer to this for "bashed by the ugly stick" signs.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3521.msg78212#msg78212

I actually like this sign, because it very clearly lays out where you need to be.  But if you want to recommend a sign for replacement, the best place for that will be the "Redesign This" thread in the Road Related Illustrations subforum.  I'll forward this post over there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 19, 2015, 07:41:45 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 18, 2015, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 18, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
DO NOT ENTER...what exactly?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.454411,-74.839229,3a,90y,285.38h,84.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27ngni9Eub9RGEgAgWbhbg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
"Hmm, so I tried driving on this field yesterday to get to my house...now they put up that sign! Great, now I can't save time trying to get to my house!"
Enough people probably do that drive, so they put up a sign.  Prevent tire tracks on the grass.

I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 19, 2015, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 19, 2015, 07:41:45 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 18, 2015, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 18, 2015, 01:00:15 PM
DO NOT ENTER...what exactly?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.454411,-74.839229,3a,90y,285.38h,84.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s27ngni9Eub9RGEgAgWbhbg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
"Hmm, so I tried driving on this field yesterday to get to my house...now they put up that sign! Great, now I can't save time trying to get to my house!"
Enough people probably do that drive, so they put up a sign.  Prevent tire tracks on the grass.

I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.
The grass must remain pretty...except for the emergency vehicles. Must be one of those type of lawns no one touches.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.

I was under the notion that people didn't drive off the road to get to their house when a road can be used to access it. I guess some of the Hunterdon County homeowners here have other thoughts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.

I was under the notion that people didn't drive off the road to get to their house when a road can be used to access it. I guess some of the Hunterdon County homeowners here have other thoughts.

It might depend on how far around it is by road.

I can't make the Street View display using Google Maps' website on my iPad, but if you look at the location linked below, the Street View along George Mason Boulevard should show similar "Do Not Enter Except Emergency Vehicle" signs near Courtney Drive, Trowbridge Street, and the stub end of University Drive. University Drive used to be the through street (notice how if you pan north it continues as a disconnected piece), but when George Mason Boulevard was built the one part was truncated. The residents had long complained of speeding and the like. But I guess it's far enough around that they wanted a short way for ambulances and fire trucks to get through, so they built these "grasscrete" cut-throughs and then they found the residents using them because it's a much shorter way through.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8400698,-77.308568,18z
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on July 19, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.

I was under the notion that people didn't drive off the road to get to their house when a road can be used to access it. I guess some of the Hunterdon County homeowners here have other thoughts.
My guess: That residential street used to extend to the main road itself and the sign denotes where the old entrance was.  I've seen plenty of examples of strange signage where an intersection was removed.  (this is only based off of street view, I can't seem to get it to show me the location on satellite. mobile FTL)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on July 19, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.

I was under the notion that people didn't drive off the road to get to their house when a road can be used to access it. I guess some of the Hunterdon County homeowners here have other thoughts.
My guess: That residential street used to extend to the main road itself and the sign denotes where the old entrance was.  I've seen plenty of examples of strange signage where an intersection was removed.  (this is only based off of street view, I can't seem to get it to show me the location on satellite. mobile FTL)

I was able to view the satellite view on my iPad. The grass does look somewhat different on a straight line from the cul-de-sac to the main road, but I can't tell what the reason is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on July 19, 2015, 09:45:51 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on July 19, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.

I was under the notion that people didn't drive off the road to get to their house when a road can be used to access it. I guess some of the Hunterdon County homeowners here have other thoughts.
My guess: That residential street used to extend to the main road itself and the sign denotes where the old entrance was.  I've seen plenty of examples of strange signage where an intersection was removed.  (this is only based off of street view, I can't seem to get it to show me the location on satellite. mobile FTL)


Speaking of strange signage at a closed street.........
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.913186,-84.544384,3a,15y,233.01h,90.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4xngFrIYIUz9KPJxXVwpig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The signage makes it seem that you must turn right into the grass to get to Litton Lane. I don't think that street ever actually went to the modern Madison Pike because it currently ends at the old alignment of KY 17.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 19, 2015, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2015, 09:02:14 AM
I've seen this sort of thing in other places, though never with quite that much of a gap between roads, and I think that's exactly right. In a few cases, I've seen "Except Emergency Vehicles" underneath.

I was under the notion that people didn't drive off the road to get to their house when a road can be used to access it. I guess some of the Hunterdon County homeowners here have other thoughts.

This isn't the first time I've seen something like this. A development near me had the same issue: easy access from another street but no road was created to join it. Some people drove across the grass to save the trouble of a fairly lengthy drive to get to their development.  I think there they used a chain to get people from stop crossing the grass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on July 19, 2015, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 18, 2015, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: odditude on July 17, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 17, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
While this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Bng2Y in itself isn't unusual, the location defining it as a 'residential' area is.  https://goo.gl/maps/BrfPu

Plus, it's a bit small and low for most truckers.
US 1 immediately passes by several residential complexes after going over NJ 29 - it's not inappropriate here.

No, US 1 immediately passes over a river after going over NJ 29. Want to prohibit truckers from using the Jake brake?  Simply say "Jake Brake Prohibited".   And make it larger. And place it at the height of truckers' windshields.
my mistake - I thought this was on the NB side. definitely not residential on the Morrisville side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on July 19, 2015, 06:10:40 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.90241,-77.037246,3a,15y,60.9h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s16hEx0OtkK-QrzeYo87wQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Besides the design, I thought it was 'roadway' as one word and not two.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 20, 2015, 05:46:15 PM
Not a typo... it's a jughandle.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fny5%2F101_2486-s.JPG&hash=b4d7643dfd056a2b08bb2eeeb41ab16a56412383)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on July 22, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/260/19904885702_520c39cae3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wjVK3w)i71signgrovecity_201307 (https://flic.kr/p/wjVK3w) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Grove City has a bunch of these around town.  It just doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 22, 2015, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: busman_49 on July 22, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/260/19904885702_520c39cae3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wjVK3w)i71signgrovecity_201307 (https://flic.kr/p/wjVK3w) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Grove City has a bunch of these around town.  It just doesn't look right.
If you squint a little bit you can see they used the wrong font  :-D

Ok, it is interesting (one piece directional), but maybe put the TO and right arrow on top of the I-71 shield instead of the bottom. This is what I interpret the assembly as:


I-71 TO RIGHT

Sounds weird, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 22, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 22, 2015, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: busman_49 on July 22, 2015, 07:37:42 AM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/260/19904885702_520c39cae3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wjVK3w)i71signgrovecity_201307 (https://flic.kr/p/wjVK3w) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Grove City has a bunch of these around town.  It just doesn't look right.
If you squint a little bit you can see they used the wrong font  :-D

Yes, Series E was used instead of Series D. Took me a second to see that.

Looks like a lazy attempt at a unisign to me. Not terrible though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on July 22, 2015, 10:23:42 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Andover,+MA/@42.632892,-71.168148,3a,16.5y,278.95h,89.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWf_f0yDdcRjPzEoeIBWFbA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DWf_f0yDdcRjPzEoeIBWFbA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D67.406937%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e308597f9a4cf5:0x28f59c5c00d57256!6m1!1e1

Dascomb Rd at Clark Rd in Andover, MA. The sign is somewhat unnecessary, but is very nicely done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 22, 2015, 11:20:26 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on July 22, 2015, 10:23:42 PM
Dascomb Rd at Clark Rd in Andover, MA. The sign is somewhat unnecessary, but is very nicely done.

More best of material, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 23, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Signs for a 24-hour school zone in Bell Buckle, TN:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/318/19771110289_be879d5478_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/w877gT)24 Hour School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/w877gT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/389/19771110179_db14c253bf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/w877eZ)8 inch McCain School Beacon (https://flic.kr/p/w877eZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 23, 2015, 10:39:27 PM
Another odd one in Shelbyville, TN:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3776/19337026553_eac4afa6c9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vsKjix)Fire Trucks Entering (https://flic.kr/p/vsKjix) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 23, 2015, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 23, 2015, 10:39:27 PM
Another odd one in Shelbyville, TN:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3776/19337026553_eac4afa6c9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vsKjix)Fire Trucks Entering (https://flic.kr/p/vsKjix) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
"Gee honey, where are those fire trucks coming from! Maybe that pole with a flag seems like it! It should mark the fire station's driveway!"
"No way! That doesn't look like a fire station with large garages that store fire trucks!"

Pointless plaque is pointless.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 23, 2015, 11:14:36 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 23, 2015, 10:39:27 PM
Another odd one in Shelbyville, TN:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3776/19337026553_eac4afa6c9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vsKjix)Fire Trucks Entering (https://flic.kr/p/vsKjix) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I prefer this one:

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0181/7971/products/WC-25R_1024x1024.jpg?v=1353702161

It's common here.

EDIT: large image. Linking to image.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DaBigE on July 24, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 23, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Signs for a 24-hour school zone in Bell Buckle, TN:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/318/19771110289_be879d5478_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/w877gT)24 Hour School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/w877gT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/389/19771110179_db14c253bf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/w877eZ)8 inch McCain School Beacon (https://flic.kr/p/w877eZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

What's the point of a 24-hour school zone? I assume it's just so they can collect higher fines?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JMoses24 on July 24, 2015, 12:57:18 AM
West Galbraith Road just west of Vine Street/Springfield Pike (which is OH State Route 4) in the Hartwell neighborhood of Cincinnati. First I've ever seen.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRknlTFl.jpg&hash=6afe02d9e2dc44c16c9ba6e35688474a17884af9) (http://imgur.com/sRknlTFl)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 24, 2015, 01:05:28 AM
Quote from: DaBigE on July 24, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 23, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Signs for a 24-hour school zone in Bell Buckle, TN:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/318/19771110289_be879d5478_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/w877gT)24 Hour School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/w877gT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/389/19771110179_db14c253bf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/w877eZ)8 inch McCain School Beacon (https://flic.kr/p/w877eZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

What's the point of a 24-hour school zone? I assume it's just so they can collect higher fines?
It might also have something to do with the school zone being for a boarding school.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zmapper on July 24, 2015, 04:19:53 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 24, 2015, 01:05:28 AM
Quote from: DaBigE on July 24, 2015, 12:18:23 AM


What's the point of a 24-hour school zone? I assume it's just so they can collect higher fines?
It might also have something to do with the school zone being for a boarding school.
Don't worry about your son Jonny running around with her late at night; our new 24-hour school zone will ensure that the cars won't kill him on his way back from her bed at three in the morning!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on July 25, 2015, 10:14:45 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3748/19385940704_e9610b55de.jpg)

I-12 exit 42 in Hammond, LA. Seems like unisigns like this are becoming more common in Louisiana, but only in construction zones. And it was that much trouble to make a longer sign with a "BUSINESS" banner?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 26, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
Stubby arrows live! This is not road related, but at the Laff Trakk exit in Hersheypark, a blue on white sign writes "EXIT" (in Arial) with a stubby arrow. No picture because tablets aren't allowed on rides in Hersheypark, and I forgot mah tablet, and GSV does not cover Hersheypark.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on July 26, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Try as I might, I just couldn't remove the overlay:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2FOldHwy55.jpg&hash=1cc93788ba20706ea6b3e2f12b4facdfeb220614)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 29, 2015, 11:27:09 PM
Pretty odd when you have a Highway Gothic green out on a Clearview sign. Must be an error of some type.

https://goo.gl/maps/63Ok2

Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on July 26, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Try as I might, I just couldn't remove the overlay:

I'd be easier to do at night  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 29, 2015, 11:37:37 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on July 26, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Try as I might, I just couldn't remove the overlay:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2FOldHwy55.jpg&hash=1cc93788ba20706ea6b3e2f12b4facdfeb220614)
Put some Marmite on it. That'll help.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 29, 2015, 11:44:32 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on July 19, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
I've seen plenty of examples of strange signage where an intersection was removed.  (this is only based off of street view, I can't seem to get it to show me the location on satellite. mobile FTL)
Oh, you mean like this?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Road_Closed_for_a_non-road_in_Ocala_National_Forest.JPG

I used to see my share of these along Rocky Point-Yaphank Road in the Rocky Point Natural Resources Management Area, and some along Lecanto Highway north of the Hernando-Citrus County Line.

I'm pretty sure I've brought this topic up before.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 30, 2015, 12:11:58 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 29, 2015, 11:37:37 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on July 26, 2015, 09:54:48 PM
Try as I might, I just couldn't remove the overlay:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2FOldHwy55.jpg&hash=1cc93788ba20706ea6b3e2f12b4facdfeb220614)
Put some Marmite on it. That'll help.

More than likely, Ontario will just replace the sign. That sign is just a reminder of what the road was prior to being downgraded to county status in 1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Highway_55
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on July 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898)
The sign on the right is pretty interesting, it has an exit tab as well as a town name tab. Or is it an interchange name tab?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/19848105230_17281ce23c_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 30, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
I saw many of these on Highway 17 in Ontario earlier this month.  I'm not sure what the precipitation is supposed to be, but it looks like "giant black spheres bigger than your head are going to be falling on your car and the road, making it very slippery."

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Ftch-20150715-19%2F16%2FDSCF0061-800.jpg&hash=6a3f3b15ac42e725428a90432b74c678113adcb7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 30, 2015, 09:18:26 AM
I don't think I've seen a distance quite this specific very often:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fomaha-20150719-22%2F21%2FDSCF0028-800.jpg&hash=a52dd82b379db53a66d11784c5bf4ba81770d34e)

Taken last week in Omaha, Nebraska, working my way from I-480 West to get back to US 6 East to get into downtown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898)
The sign on the right is pretty interesting, it has an exit tab as well as a town name tab. Or is it an interchange name tab?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/19848105230_17281ce23c_k.jpg)
It's an interchange name tab; SOP along the PA Turnpike (excluding E-ZPass ONLY interchanges).

Personally, I would've aligned the I-76 shield and WEST cardinal on that pull-through BGS on the left in a horizontal fashion (reading 76 WEST).  Such would've cut down on the BGS panel height.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on July 30, 2015, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898)
The sign on the right is pretty interesting, it has an exit tab as well as a town name tab. Or is it an interchange name tab?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/19848105230_17281ce23c_k.jpg)
It's an interchange name tab; SOP along the PA Turnpike (excluding E-ZPass ONLY interchanges).

Personally, I would've aligned the I-76 shield and WEST cardinal on that pull-through BGS on the left in a horizontal fashion (reading 76 WEST).  Such would've cut down on the BGS panel height.

I believe the PA turnpike has the main destination for each exit on a special tab. Like the I-376 exit has Pittsburgh and US 30 is Irwin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 11:55:49 AM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 30, 2015, 11:30:59 AMI believe the PA turnpike has the main destination for each exit on a special tab. Like the I-376 exit has Pittsburgh and US 30 is Irwin.
Not always the case; per this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.066583,-75.660691,3a,75y,306.58h,88.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stwjA9jBpTlCePzAOOPfnCA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664) or this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.122213,-74.848624,3a,75y,289.72h,104.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCfR1gOJ7Gcw1B8lylrOe-w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 30, 2015, 03:35:14 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 30, 2015, 09:18:26 AM
I don't think I've seen a distance quite this specific very often:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fomaha-20150719-22%2F21%2FDSCF0028-800.jpg&hash=a52dd82b379db53a66d11784c5bf4ba81770d34e)

Taken last week in Omaha, Nebraska, working my way from I-480 West to get back to US 6 East to get into downtown.
Better call home, that underlined FT makes it look like ET.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 30, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 30, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
I saw many of these on Highway 17 in Ontario earlier this month.  I'm not sure what the precipitation is supposed to be, but it looks like "giant black spheres bigger than your head are going to be falling on your car and the road, making it very slippery."

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Ftch-20150715-19%2F16%2FDSCF0061-800.jpg&hash=6a3f3b15ac42e725428a90432b74c678113adcb7)
"Shock lines under your wheels may appear when this is happening".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 30, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 30, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
I saw many of these on Highway 17 in Ontario earlier this month.  I'm not sure what the precipitation is supposed to be, but it looks like "giant black spheres bigger than your head are going to be falling on your car and the road, making it very slippery."

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Ftch-20150715-19%2F16%2FDSCF0061-800.jpg&hash=6a3f3b15ac42e725428a90432b74c678113adcb7)
"Shock lines under your wheels may appear when this is happening".
Looking at that sign makes me think, "Entering Shooting Range At Own Risk".  :)

Those black dots could represent bullet holes.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 30, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 30, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
I saw many of these on Highway 17 in Ontario earlier this month.  I'm not sure what the precipitation is supposed to be, but it looks like "giant black spheres bigger than your head are going to be falling on your car and the road, making it very slippery."

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Ftch-20150715-19%2F16%2FDSCF0061-800.jpg&hash=6a3f3b15ac42e725428a90432b74c678113adcb7)
"Shock lines under your wheels may appear when this is happening".
Looking at that sign makes me think, "Entering Shooting Range At Own Risk".  :)

Those black dots could represent bullet holes.  :sombrero:

Or that you are in the area of the golf club's Driving Range.
Or that you are entering another dimension -- The Twilight Zone!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 30, 2015, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 30, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 30, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
I saw many of these on Highway 17 in Ontario earlier this month.  I'm not sure what the precipitation is supposed to be, but it looks like "giant black spheres bigger than your head are going to be falling on your car and the road, making it very slippery."

(image snipped; long post)
"Shock lines under your wheels may appear when this is happening".
Looking at that sign makes me think, "Entering Shooting Range At Own Risk".  :)

Those black dots could represent bullet holes.  :sombrero:

Or that you are in the area of the golf club's Driving Range.
Or that you are entering another dimension -- The Twilight Zone!

They should maybe have the tab under that sign maybe  :-P

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSlippery%2520When%2520wet_zpsy4ekprxg.jpg&hash=398a66ad8c8155427085ce2f0f1584ef201d5ec2)

The tab:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FSlippery%2520When%2520wet%2520tab_zpsqlvrr8hj.jpg&hash=561f9968dcaf74fbfb51f058bc987c8c82828aa3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 30, 2015, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 30, 2015, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 30, 2015, 08:22:56 AM
I saw many of these on Highway 17 in Ontario earlier this month.  I'm not sure what the precipitation is supposed to be, but it looks like "giant black spheres bigger than your head are going to be falling on your car and the road, making it very slippery."

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Ftch-20150715-19%2F16%2FDSCF0061-800.jpg&hash=6a3f3b15ac42e725428a90432b74c678113adcb7)
"Shock lines under your wheels may appear when this is happening".
Looking at that sign makes me think, "Entering Shooting Range At Own Risk".  :)

Those black dots could represent bullet holes.  :sombrero:

Or that you are in the area of the golf club's Driving Range.
Or that you are entering another dimension -- The Twilight Zone!

Oh no...one of those dots landed on that guy's body!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dcharlie on July 30, 2015, 04:44:01 PM
Looks to me like he is being shot at!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on July 30, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
They could have made the drops shaped like water drops and it would be a bit clearer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 30, 2015, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: kkt on July 30, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
They could have made the drops shaped like water drops and it would be a bit clearer.

Shaped like what most people think water drops are shaped like, maybe. In reality, they're not shaped like the standard "teardrop" shape.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on July 30, 2015, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 30, 2015, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898)
As I recall, before exit numbers, interchanges were named.
The sign on the right is pretty interesting, it has an exit tab as well as a town name tab. Or is it an interchange name tab?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/19848105230_17281ce23c_k.jpg)
It's an interchange name tab; SOP along the PA Turnpike (excluding E-ZPass ONLY interchanges).

Personally, I would've aligned the I-76 shield and WEST cardinal on that pull-through BGS on the left in a horizontal fashion (reading 76 WEST).  Such would've cut down on the BGS panel height.

I believe the PA turnpike has the main destination for each exit on a special tab. Like the I-376 exit has Pittsburgh and US 30 is Irwin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on July 30, 2015, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 30, 2015, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898)
As I recall, before exit numbers, interchanges were named.
The sign on the right is pretty interesting, it has an exit tab as well as a town name tab. Or is it an interchange name tab?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/19848105230_17281ce23c_k.jpg)
It's an interchange name tab; SOP along the PA Turnpike (excluding E-ZPass ONLY interchanges).

Personally, I would've aligned the I-76 shield and WEST cardinal on that pull-through BGS on the left in a horizontal fashion (reading 76 WEST).  Such would've cut down on the BGS panel height.

I believe the PA turnpike has the main destination for each exit on a special tab. Like the I-376 exit has Pittsburgh and US 30 is Irwin.

I'm surprised that the Penna Turnpike does not affix their turnpike logo on the overheads next to the I-76 shield -- especially since the Pike (as I recall) barely acknowledges the Interstate numbers (I-70 &/or I-76) leading up to the toll road -- Breezewood excepted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 31, 2015, 09:24:17 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 10:44:43 PMI'm surprised that the Penna Turnpike does not affix their turnpike logo on the overheads next to the I-76 shield -- especially since the Pike (as I recall) barely acknowledges the Interstate numbers (I-70 &/or I-76) leading up to the toll road -- Breezewood excepted.
The PA Turnpike logo shield/keystone is only displayed on entrance ramp and approach signage for such.  It's not displayed on any through-signage along the turnpike itself. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 31, 2015, 09:36:08 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 31, 2015, 09:24:17 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 10:44:43 PMI'm surprised that the Penna Turnpike does not affix their turnpike logo on the overheads next to the I-76 shield -- especially since the Pike (as I recall) barely acknowledges the Interstate numbers (I-70 &/or I-76) leading up to the toll road -- Breezewood excepted.
The PA Turnpike logo shield/keystone is only displayed on entrance ramp and approach signage for such.  It's not displayed on any through-signage along the turnpike itself. 

Heck, there was more NJ Turnpike through-signage on the PA Turnpike than PA Turnpike through-signage!  :D

https://goo.gl/maps/3HcPx
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on July 31, 2015, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 30, 2015, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on July 30, 2015, 10:27:03 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 30, 2015, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 30, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 30, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6550.msg2081898#msg2081898)
As I recall, before exit numbers, interchanges were named.
The sign on the right is pretty interesting, it has an exit tab as well as a town name tab. Or is it an interchange name tab?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/483/19848105230_17281ce23c_k.jpg)
It's an interchange name tab; SOP along the PA Turnpike (excluding E-ZPass ONLY interchanges).

Personally, I would've aligned the I-76 shield and WEST cardinal on that pull-through BGS on the left in a horizontal fashion (reading 76 WEST).  Such would've cut down on the BGS panel height.

I believe the PA turnpike has the main destination for each exit on a special tab. Like the I-376 exit has Pittsburgh and US 30 is Irwin.

I'm surprised that the Penna Turnpike does not affix their turnpike logo on the overheads next to the I-76 shield -- especially since the Pike (as I recall) barely acknowledges the Interstate numbers (I-70 &/or I-76) leading up to the toll road -- Breezewood excepted.

As thenetwork said when approaching the Pike you see signs like this- https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.278005,-79.553178,3a,15y,237.23h,88.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ZloaflGUSDdEh045oMv2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
It isn't until you see proper BGS advance signage for the Pike do you see Interstate shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 31, 2015, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 31, 2015, 09:36:08 AMHeck, there was more NJ Turnpike through-signage on the PA Turnpike than PA Turnpike through-signage!  :D

https://goo.gl/maps/3HcPx
After nearly 20 years, that abonination of a sign correction was finally (& thankfully) re-corrected a year or two ago.  A supplemental ground-mounted TO NJTP USE EAST 276 BGS was erected prior to that overhead gantry as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 31, 2015, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?

Found another blank sign. Looks like a stub to a road nearby that was closed for some reason.

https://goo.gl/maps/QFIUZ

EDIT: according to past satellite views of the area, it looks like that stub was never built.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 01, 2015, 02:06:02 PM
Saw this up in Nashville, TN recently:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/355/19583363703_e27914b0e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vQvRKM)Odd Keep Right Sign (https://flic.kr/p/vQvRKM) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stratuscaster on August 01, 2015, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?
Believe that's a "TRUCKS MUST USE 2 RIGHT LANES" type of sign, and it's covered for the construction happening.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on August 01, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: Stratuscaster on August 01, 2015, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on June 13, 2015, 11:32:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.330742,-81.810068,3a,18.7y,142.23h,106.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxDRH5GtLHhE5cwBj1tupgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Shouldn't they have just taken that sign down entirely if all they were going to do was white-out everything on it?
Believe that's a "TRUCKS MUST USE 2 RIGHT LANES" type of sign, and it's covered for the construction happening.

That is indeed exactly what it is, and once the lanes reopen, the white-out is removed to reveal the message (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.274178,-81.63109,3a,36.8y,300.89h,89.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssTKFsoloRPNwA29ho0b2uQ!2e0) again.  Same thing with the large white signs with everything whited out is present right now in several work zones on the Ohio Turnpike where the signs are over closed lanes for the time being.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
Some cases of the wrong-color-diamond blues:

Main St. in Walpole, Mass.:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/448/20248773051_a0bbbf5a3f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wRjfLK)

Also on Main St. in Walpole, but these can also be found up the street in Norwood:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/420/19621988693_e3fbfaea75.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTVPBT)

Vineyard Haven, Mass., at the Steamship Authority terminal (note the correct sign across the road):

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/19620305344_629c47e455.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTMcdC)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 02, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM

Also on Main St. in Walpole, but these can also be found up the street in Norwood:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/420/19621988693_e3fbfaea75.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTVPBT)




So what necessitated this sign?  The only reason I could see is that when traffic on the main street is stopped/backed up they purposely block entrance/egress from the side streets. But since this is Massachusetts, based on my experiences, this sign is preaching to the choir.  A better sign (on a regulatory black-on-white sign) would simply say "DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION(S)"
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 02, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM

Also on Main St. in Walpole, but these can also be found up the street in Norwood:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/420/19621988693_e3fbfaea75.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTVPBT)




So what necessitated this sign?  The only reason I could see is that when traffic on the main street is stopped/backed up they purposely block entrance/egress from the side streets. But since this is Massachusetts, based on my experiences, this sign is preaching to the choir.  A better sign (on a regulatory black-on-white sign) would simply say "DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION(S)"

I don't know anything about it.  There were at least half a dozen of these over several miles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 02, 2015, 10:27:43 PM
I wonder if those signs were made with the consideration that white on blue is the photographic negative of black on yellow...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 03, 2015, 06:43:54 AM
Quote from: vtk on August 02, 2015, 10:27:43 PM
I wonder if those signs were made with the consideration that white on blue is the photographic negative of black on yellow...

Blue, opposite yellow: blue, yellow
Color of sign: blue, orange

The difference in blue may seem slight, but there is a large difference in what the opposite looks like.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 03, 2015, 08:40:21 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 02, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM

Also on Main St. in Walpole, but these can also be found up the street in Norwood:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/420/19621988693_e3fbfaea75.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTVPBT)




So what necessitated this sign?  The only reason I could see is that when traffic on the main street is stopped/backed up they purposely block entrance/egress from the side streets. But since this is Massachusetts, based on my experiences, this sign is preaching to the choir.  A better sign (on a regulatory black-on-white sign) would simply say "DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION(S)"

My favorite sign was at I-90/I-95 on the Mass Pike EB at the toll plaza: "DO NOT BACK UP"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 09:37:16 AM

Quote from: thenetwork on August 02, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM

Also on Main St. in Walpole, but these can also be found up the street in Norwood:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/420/19621988693_e3fbfaea75.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTVPBT)




So what necessitated this sign?  The only reason I could see is that when traffic on the main street is stopped/backed up they purposely block entrance/egress from the side streets. But since this is Massachusetts, based on my experiences, this sign is preaching to the choir.  A better sign (on a regulatory black-on-white sign) would simply say "DO NOT BLOCK INTERSECTION(S)"

My first thought was, how would one convey this without words?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/19620305344_629c47e455.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTMcdC)
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/19620305344_629c47e455.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTMcdC)
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 03, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 03, 2015, 06:43:54 AM
Quote from: vtk on August 02, 2015, 10:27:43 PM
I wonder if those signs were made with the consideration that white on blue is the photographic negative of black on yellow...

Blue, opposite yellow: blue, yellow
Color of sign: blue, orange


But the yellow used on road signs is in fact much oranger than RGB "yellow". Furthermore, color is a lot more complicated than a trio of integers in the range [0—255].  Simply subtracting from 255 and calling that the "negative" doesn't take into consideration the nonlinear nature of the sRGB colorspace.  Even taking samples from a digital photo in sRGB as canonical representation of an object's color is fallacy, as the camera's whitepoint and exposure settings have a significant influence on the numbers you'll get, and consequently a [perceptually even greater] influence on what you see when you take a "negative" of the image in a digital RGB colorspace.

Here I've performed an approximate linear-light negative operation, using the value #B0A5A2 (sampled from the back of whatever sign is behind the blue pedestrian icon sign) as a reference white.  That is, #000000 becomes #B0A5A2 and #B0A5A2 becomes #000000, and the colors in between are transposed not based on the simple sRGB numerical values, but on the light-intensity values those numbers represent.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvidthekid.info%2Fimghost%2Fnegative-signs.jpeg&hash=463cbd6174a6fcde7bda742fa982b48ddbfefa41)
Note the sign in question looks much like a normal black-on-yellow road sign, albeit a bit washed out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM

Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/19620305344_629c47e455.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTMcdC)
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.

But blue is already assigned an implicit meaning in the MUTCD, and it is not "warning."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.

But blue is already assigned an implicit meaning in the MUTCD, and it is not "warning."

I agree with Brandon about perhaps expanding the use of color in our signs, particularly blue since even color blind people can identify it (so far as I know), but perhaps instead of "AHEAD", we use a distance, such as 100 yards?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 03, 2015, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.

But blue is already assigned an implicit meaning in the MUTCD, and it is not "warning."

I agree with Brandon about perhaps expanding the use of color in our signs, particularly blue since even color blind people can identify it (so far as I know), but perhaps instead of "AHEAD", we use a distance, such as 100 yards?

Blue's a tricky color when it comes to colorblindness.  When you have the really poorly-named "red-green" colorblindness, it actually means you don't see as much red and green as other people.  This does not only affect red and green.  In fact, blue and purple can be incredibly difficult to differentiate since you don't see the red in the purple.  Everything becomes blue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:48:00 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.

But blue is already assigned an implicit meaning in the MUTCD, and it is not "warning."

I agree with Brandon about perhaps expanding the use of color in our signs, particularly blue since even color blind people can identify it (so far as I know), but perhaps instead of "AHEAD", we use a distance, such as 100 yards?

There's a good reason to keep color meanings consistent, and it's the primary guiding principle of all sign design–conveying meaning as simply as is practicable is the safest practice for motorists whose primary attention should be on the road.

Consistent color use is a very basic and direct way to achieve this.  It's an unwise standard to start muddying given the critical cues the driving population has learned to take from it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:48:00 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.

But blue is already assigned an implicit meaning in the MUTCD, and it is not "warning."

I agree with Brandon about perhaps expanding the use of color in our signs, particularly blue since even color blind people can identify it (so far as I know), but perhaps instead of "AHEAD", we use a distance, such as 100 yards?

There's a good reason to keep color meanings consistent, and it's the primary guiding principle of all sign design–conveying meaning as simply as is practicable is the safest practice for motorists whose primary attention should be on the road.

Consistent color use is a very basic and direct way to achieve this.  It's an unwise standard to start muddying given the critical cues the driving population has learned to take from it.

I didn't necessarily mean to imply ignorance of the basic rules of sign design. I understand how colors are important for identification, of course, I'm simply saying some colors and shapes should not necessarily be assigned to their present meanings anymore. For example, I hate that the round shape is reserved for railroad crossings. I understand its importance 50 years ago, when there were many more unsignalized crossings, but nowadays the signs go mostly ignored as most important crossings have gates. As for the color blue, I think it's a very valuable color that is capable of so much more than just providing info. IMO, info signs should be black on white and regulatory signage should be white on blue. I will expand on this later but I have to go to work now. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 03, 2015, 11:15:37 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 02, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/19620305344_629c47e455.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vTMcdC)
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

Only Ontario stopped using the blue crosswalk in 2009.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 03, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 06:22:07 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:48:00 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on August 03, 2015, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 03, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: Brandon on August 03, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 03, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Kinda like this one, reminds me of European crosswalk signs.

Also it's sort of like the Ontario school crossing signs.

I have an idea.  The black on yellow signs could be used for the advance signage.  The white on blue signs could be used for the actual crossing.  This would eliminate the stupid "AHEAD" and "<-" plaques we currently see in the MUTCD.

But blue is already assigned an implicit meaning in the MUTCD, and it is not "warning."

I agree with Brandon about perhaps expanding the use of color in our signs, particularly blue since even color blind people can identify it (so far as I know), but perhaps instead of "AHEAD", we use a distance, such as 100 yards?

There's a good reason to keep color meanings consistent, and it's the primary guiding principle of all sign design–conveying meaning as simply as is practicable is the safest practice for motorists whose primary attention should be on the road.

Consistent color use is a very basic and direct way to achieve this.  It's an unwise standard to start muddying given the critical cues the driving population has learned to take from it.

I didn't necessarily mean to imply ignorance of the basic rules of sign design. I understand how colors are important for identification, of course, I'm simply saying some colors and shapes should not necessarily be assigned to their present meanings anymore. For example, I hate that the round shape is reserved for railroad crossings. I understand its importance 50 years ago, when there were many more unsignalized crossings, but nowadays the signs go mostly ignored as most important crossings have gates. As for the color blue, I think it's a very valuable color that is capable of so much more than just providing info. IMO, info signs should be black on white and regulatory signage should be white on blue. I will expand on this later but I have to go to work now. :-D

So a train using an unimportant crossing won't kill anyone?

Isn't the advanced notice good for buses and hazmats that need to stop at crossings?

Who says no one pays attention to the signs anymore?  That statement is based on what?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 04, 2015, 02:59:57 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 03, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
So a train using an unimportant crossing won't kill anyone?

No but crossings without roundels do not necessarily correlate with an increased chance of a collision.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 03, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
Isn't the advanced notice good for buses and hazmats that need to stop at crossings?...Who says no one pays attention to the signs anymore?  That statement is based on what?

Fair enough. Gross assumption. But the few people who rely on railroad identification can just as easily identity the crossing by the saltire next to the tracks. And shapes are very important for users facing the Back of a sign (see Stop signs) but in some cases it's not necessary. This is one of those cases where identification of the sign from the other side is not necessary, as you'll already be past the crossing by the time you see it.

My point being, a rectangular sign with the same symbol would likely be just as effective.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on August 04, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 04, 2015, 02:59:57 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 03, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
So a train using an unimportant crossing won't kill anyone?

No but crossings without roundels do not necessarily correlate with an increased chance of a collision.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 03, 2015, 11:24:59 PM
Isn't the advanced notice good for buses and hazmats that need to stop at crossings?...Who says no one pays attention to the signs anymore?  That statement is based on what?

Fair enough. Gross assumption. But the few people who rely on railroad identification can just as easily identity the crossing by the saltire next to the tracks. And shapes are very important for users facing the Back of a sign (see Stop signs) but in some cases it's not necessary. This is one of those cases where identification of the sign from the other side is not necessary, as you'll already be past the crossing by the time you see it.

My point being, a rectangular sign with the same symbol would likely be just as effective.

Not all important crossings have lights & gates. In fact, I personally deem all crossings important enough that they need the round advance warning signs. As jeffandnicole said, buses & haz-mat truck drivers need to know ahead of time that tracks are coming up so they can turn their hazard-flashers on and warn the people following them so they will be ready to stop. This helps prevent rear endings.

In fact, the round shape is also used for hurricane evacuation route signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 04, 2015, 08:18:25 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 04, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Not all important crossings have lights & gates. In fact, I personally deem all crossings important enough that they need the round advance warning signs. As jeffandnicole said, buses & haz-mat truck drivers need to know ahead of time that tracks are coming up so they can turn their hazard-flashers on and warn the people following them so they will be ready to stop. This helps prevent rear endings.

I agree, recognition is good, but the signs don't necessarily need to be round for them to recognize the crossing. Those driving buses and semis have commercial driver's licences, and thus are held to a much higher standard of health than the rest of the populace. In general, states require 20/40 vision in both eyes, and colorblind individuals can only acquire a licence using a medical waiver (generally, they have to pass a test showing that they can still recognize the colors even with their deficiency).

Here are some other ways you could advertise a crossing ahead, without a roundel (#1 is used in Canada):


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkVtuKYn.png&hash=c6dbbff748f74d97eee9f2e0a251103ba2748dd4)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2015, 12:55:08 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 12, 2015, 05:42:41 PM
Spotted in Philadelphia, I present to you - the CONSTRUCTION APL with negative contrast Clearview, and not one control city for I-95:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsUN19W.png&hash=55ddaa2663b64f03048f8444513162bb6b14911b)
I've seen something similar on southbound I-95 at the Fayetteville, North Carolina business loop, although I haven't posted any pictures of them because they all turned out like crap.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2015, 08:22:11 AM
I don't know if I can get the exact location linked up, but this morning, I decided to explore the "mountains" of Farmingville, New York, and I spotted this sign on Tower Hill Road:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.845105,-73.030645,3a,30y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdqIzSi4bfQNaF05QH6j0GA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Then I kept going towards the west end, where the old Telescope Hill fire tower used to be. It's now the home of the radio tower of WALK-FM in Patchogue, and some unusual supplements for Dead End signs.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.845016,-73.031846,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXkqVO2RVdNLsMsHWs2cGAw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

http://www.walk975.com/

The tower for WALK-AM is just east of the first link.


Fortunately, the tower for WUSB in Stony Brook is on Lidge Drive just west of here.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Forgive me if this is normal practice nowdays, (I don't think it is) but this KEEP RIGHT tab for the Mitchell Avenue Sign seems very unusual.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/370/20107388298_e3f13d9389_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wCPC1A) (https://flic.kr/p/wCPC1A)iBallasticwolf2 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133197723@N05/)
DISCLAIMER: The OH 562 sign IS NOT a canadite for this thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 05, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
You mean the 'Keep Right' tab? :-)

And no...that looks like it was taken off another sign, such as a ground mounted sign with smaller letters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 08:57:53 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 05, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
You mean the 'Keep Right' tab? :-)

And no...that looks like it was taken off another sign, such as a ground mounted sign with smaller letters.

Didn't realize my mistake. This just doesn't seem very widespread having those KEEP RIGHT borders.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 12:39:51 PM
I would bet money that the Keep Right is patched over something, and somewhere between measurement and production of the patch, something went a little wonky.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 12:39:51 PM
I would bet money that the Keep Right is patched over something, and somewhere between measurement and production of the patch, something went a little wonky.

That would make sense considering the site of the photo has been the site of major construction recently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?

From what I remember the distance to Mitchell Avenue from that sign assembly (Also the gore point of the southbound I-75 to eastbound OH 562 ramp) has always been the same. It could have to do with the recent construction at the interchange.

I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 06, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

I'm no expert, but here is something that maybe can help with mixed case situations. Button copy is almost always FHWA fonts (I have seen Arial button copy, not kidding).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FFont%2520Differences_zpssalcmw8c.png&hash=c4604d3297af9c04b9ebf7fbeedf85c4a773e368)

Some letters, (like h) are pretty difficult to differentiate. The numbers 1,2,6,9 I think are the easiest numbers to differentiate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on August 06, 2015, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 06, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
I'm no expert, but here is something that maybe can help with mixed case situations. Button copy is almost always FHWA fonts (I have seen Arial button copy, not kidding).

I thought I saw Clearview button copy somewhere. I'm tempted to say that it was in Ohio. Unfortunately I have no picture and Internet search on "Clearview button copy" returns no evidence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 06, 2015, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 06, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

I'm no expert, but here is something that maybe can help with mixed case situations. Button copy is almost always FHWA fonts (I have seen Arial button copy, not kidding).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FFont%2520Differences_zpssalcmw8c.png&hash=c4604d3297af9c04b9ebf7fbeedf85c4a773e368)

Some letters, (like h) are pretty difficult to differentiate. The numbers 1,2,6,9 I think are the easiest numbers to differentiate.

Thanks for the picture. After anyalizing the sign picture a little more to see signs of Clearview it seems that the St. Bernard part of the sign is not in clearview because the a is an FHWA style.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 06, 2015, 12:52:56 PM
Quote from: jbnv on August 06, 2015, 09:38:19 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 06, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
I'm no expert, but here is something that maybe can help with mixed case situations. Button copy is almost always FHWA fonts (I have seen Arial button copy, not kidding).

I thought I saw Clearview button copy somewhere. I'm tempted to say that it was in Ohio. Unfortunately I have no picture and Internet search on "Clearview button copy" returns no evidence.

The consensus among folks here who pay attention to such things is that button copy Clearview does not exist.  Were an example to show up, it would be a big deal on probably more than one thread on this forum.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on August 06, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
I present to you two unique signs from California...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2Fphotos%2FDSC00266.jpg&hash=c7171efa572a4edc5c3342c32b5b490a740f5d9d)
Yes, that's an external exit tab on an overhead sign, a rare sight in California.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2Fphotos%2F580-elSign.jpg&hash=67bfffed21d89d828808b0a3fa753c47001c4abd)
Blue-on-white sign announcing the pending opening of the I-580 Express Lanes through the Livermore Valley.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 06, 2015, 02:48:00 PM
Wow, never saw a large blue-on-white guide signs.  Might have seen blue-on-white for small pole-mounted signs for local destinations (Yankee Stadium?).  Hard to read against the blue sky background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 06, 2015, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 06, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

I'm no expert, but here is something that maybe can help with mixed case situations. Button copy is almost always FHWA fonts (I have seen Arial button copy, not kidding).

California's SR 91 has Express Toll lanes with HelveticArial button copy, but only for overheads in those lanes.

I saw a blue-on-white guide sign for a municipal airport, along I-35 in Ankeny, Iowa.

Florida uses orange-on-white for their "agricultural inspection stations" along the interstates.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on August 06, 2015, 04:18:35 PM
I saw this picture on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3chdl2/the_back_of_this_sign_is_nearly_transparent) a few weeks ago:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuItr6uH.jpg&hash=adda054c745af565d6d13001734ebb59c07000ec)

Last night, I saw this on Imgur:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaOsTkTE.jpg&hash=cb7164577afc21912a6a4cc789e81ea70ec6c727)
According to the Reddit thread (http://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3fwsdy/these_pedestrian_crossing_signs_look_like), it's in Peekskill, NY.  Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.291027,-73.922093,3a,29.6y,191.97h,85.06t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sDGZCVvGPSugEB-QTzJSAsQ!2e0) are the signs in Street View.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 06, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 06, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2Fphotos%2FDSC00266.jpg&hash=c7171efa572a4edc5c3342c32b5b490a740f5d9d)
Yes, that's an external exit tab on an overhead sign, a rare sight in California.
IMO that's the best looking sign in all of California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 06, 2015, 10:12:02 PM
My friend posted this on Facebook a while back:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRnpHaWg.jpg&hash=c0e4b63cb92021ee2c59c395d096fa03ee8da9f7)

I'd give him credit but I'd rather not give away his identity.

EDIT: The sign is at "Confusion Corner" in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on August 06, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 06, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 06, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2Fphotos%2FDSC00266.jpg&hash=c7171efa572a4edc5c3342c32b5b490a740f5d9d)
Yes, that's an external exit tab on an overhead sign, a rare sight in California.
IMO that's the best looking sign in all of California.

Here's an amen to that! I simply :love: that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on August 07, 2015, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 06, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 06, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2Fphotos%2FDSC00266.jpg&hash=c7171efa572a4edc5c3342c32b5b490a740f5d9d)
Yes, that's an external exit tab on an overhead sign, a rare sight in California.
IMO that's the best looking sign in all of California.

Well, it really should say NORTH above the I-5 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 07, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 06, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 06, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
Yes, that's an external exit tab on an overhead sign, a rare sight in California.

IMO that's the best looking sign in all of California.

Well, it really should say NORTH above the I-5 shield.

And is there any particular reason for the yellow background behind "SECOND RIGHT"? Is that normal for California?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 07, 2015, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 06, 2015, 10:12:02 PM
My friend posted this on Facebook a while back:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRnpHaWg.jpg&hash=c0e4b63cb92021ee2c59c395d096fa03ee8da9f7)

I'd give him credit but I'd rather not give away his identity.

EDIT: The sign is at "Confusion Corner" in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.

All this time living in Winnipeg, and I haven't seen that sign. I'll have to swing down to confusion corner (which I see often) and take a pic, before its replaced into Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on August 07, 2015, 01:13:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 07, 2015, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 06, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 06, 2015, 01:49:52 PM
Yes, that's an external exit tab on an overhead sign, a rare sight in California.

IMO that's the best looking sign in all of California.

Well, it really should say NORTH above the I-5 shield.

And is there any particular reason for the yellow background behind "SECOND RIGHT"? Is that normal for California?

It's probably because exit 461 is an exit only.  Normally the "exit only" would be posted past exit 460, but exits 460 and 461 are so close together they thought drivers should have extra warning to get over?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on August 07, 2015, 06:49:08 PM
Photoshopped. I can tell from the pixels.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 07, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.

It's photoshopped, but not for that reason. New signs on rusty poles are relatively common.

Zoom in, and you can see the blurred edges of the sign. And there's no bolt heads protruding thru the sign, bolting the sign onto the pole.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on August 08, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 07, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.

It's photoshopped, but not for that reason. New signs on rusty poles are relatively common.

Zoom in, and you can see the blurred edges of the sign. And there's no bolt heads protruding thru the sign, bolting the sign onto the pole.
The wavy horizontal shading difference in the center of the sign is another big tipoff.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 08, 2015, 11:16:18 AM
I-5 at the Washington-Oregon border has two overhead services signs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1324.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu604%2Fprinceda2%2Fportland%2Fpor4_zpsa592ee1f.jpg&hash=97cc09f916d0ce444a49f9a44f8f69ae36703c0f)

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.608214,-122.680876,3a,26.4y,71.21h,99.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sycFNSwSuevP6jylDcMUG5Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.61757,-122.675695,3a,73.6y,227.04h,99.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0AmFfEfjuj5wy6lBS38SdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on August 08, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on August 08, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 07, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.

It's photoshopped, but not for that reason. New signs on rusty poles are relatively common.

Zoom in, and you can see the blurred edges of the sign. And there's no bolt heads protruding thru the sign, bolting the sign onto the pole.
The wavy horizontal shading difference in the center of the sign is another big tipoff.


That all being said, it is based on a real sign.  I have seen these many places around the country, and they always cause a WTF response from me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 08, 2015, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 08, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on August 08, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 07, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.

It's photoshopped, but not for that reason. New signs on rusty poles are relatively common.

Zoom in, and you can see the blurred edges of the sign. And there's no bolt heads protruding thru the sign, bolting the sign onto the pole.
The wavy horizontal shading difference in the center of the sign is another big tipoff.


That all being said, it is based on a real sign.  I have seen these many places around the country, and they always cause a WTF response from me.
While the sign conveys an understandable message it seems extremely obvious. These signs can be the subject of internet memes such as being in "You don't say?" memes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 08, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on August 06, 2015, 02:48:00 PM
Wow, never saw a large blue-on-white guide signs.  Might have seen blue-on-white for small pole-mounted signs for local destinations (Yankee Stadium?).  Hard to read against the blue sky background.

We have a few decent-sized blue-on-white signs around here pointing the way to subway stations. Never occurred to me they might be odd just because I'm used to seeing them.

I don't know whether this link will work, and you'll have to click into Street View yourself because I can't seem to figure out how to get a Street View link on my iPad. There's a blue-on-white guide sign alongside the northbound shoulder just north of where I dropped the pin: http://goo.gl/maps/Tdt7s
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 08, 2015, 06:43:08 PM
Saw this first one this afternoon. It's not in a parking garage.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F076E80BF-E31C-4B8D-AC28-67C784DD656C_zps2ogveiyy.jpg&hash=23b9759707b9c6a28694bfcb07858382dc1b80ab)


This second one is just kind of neat. I bought a six-pack of this beer at Wegmans this afternoon but didn't notice the road sign until I popped the first can at home.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F7251D1B3-006F-4B4C-9506-149F60CEB8B7_zpsdew9wpck.jpg&hash=b0af138233ae93fff5ae0f0a998a6d857aff0a21)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: abc2VE on August 08, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Did somebody say Fayetteville? I took these two years ago on my way to Myrtle Beach.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/11870763_674415785993675_5147959216526050874_n.jpg?oh=f4a1e9f503b3a5fc6d90c6fc81d6159c&oe=5647B90D)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11850722_674415782660342_5389957730606696670_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 09, 2015, 12:12:23 AM
Quote from: abc2VE on August 08, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Did somebody say Fayetteville? I took these two years ago on my way to Myrtle Beach.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/11870763_674415785993675_5147959216526050874_n.jpg?oh=f4a1e9f503b3a5fc6d90c6fc81d6159c&oe=5647B90D)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11850722_674415782660342_5389957730606696670_o.jpg)
Yes, me. And that's them.


Quote from: 1995hoo on August 08, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
We have a few decent-sized blue-on-white signs around here pointing the way to subway stations. Never occurred to me they might be odd just because I'm used to seeing them.
Oh, but it has occurred to me, because I only see signs like that between the Baltimore-DC Megalopolis.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on August 09, 2015, 01:42:19 AM
Quote from: abc2VE on August 08, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Did somebody say Fayetteville? I took these two years ago on my way to Myrtle Beach.
[photos snipped]

It took me a few seconds to realize that the shield on the left is for Business I-95 and not actual I-95.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 09, 2015, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 09, 2015, 12:12:23 AM

....

Quote from: 1995hoo on August 08, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
We have a few decent-sized blue-on-white signs around here pointing the way to subway stations. Never occurred to me they might be odd just because I'm used to seeing them.
Oh, but it has occurred to me, because I only see signs like that between the Baltimore-DC Megalopolis.

I've probably just never paid that much attention because in the past five to seven years I haven't driven to many cities that have things like subway stations near highway exits, and when I have driven to such cities I either haven't been looking for subway stops or (in the case of Brooklyn) it's such a familiar place I haven't paid much attention to the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 09, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
We have a couple of subway stations prominently marked on guide signs.  They just have the system logo and station name on a regular green sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 09, 2015, 03:43:28 PM
White-on-green "county road" sign (seems more like a private driveway) located in Cleburn County, Alabama:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/310/20435810205_15c28dd092_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x8QSpg)
Cleburn County 417 (https://flic.kr/p/x8QSpg) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
Are those bullet holes scattered around the sign or...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
Are those bullet holes scattered around the sign or...?

It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 09, 2015, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

I don't think how "violent" a state is comes into being a factor here.  Shooting signs is a great American pastime in general.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on August 09, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

How is Alabama so violent? Shooting signs is just a rural country element ALL ACROSS THE USA!!! Ease up on that violent label. As you stated...you've never been there, so don't rush to judgement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on August 09, 2015, 07:43:22 PM
On I-15, the junction with UT 56 got its signs replaced about a year ago. Not quite sure which standard it's using. :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FygW5VA7.jpg&hash=d4331db570f79ef87b0a21856bdb9b37764c8338)

From Street View, here's what it replaced, which was no beauty contest winner either:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXm88zka.png&hash=d532ce2d277b53b0c6ee923ac381e835d4f49dde)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 09, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

How is Alabama so violent? Shooting signs is just a rural country element ALL ACROSS THE USA!!! Ease up on that violent label. As you stated...you've never been there, so don't rush to judgement.

A few months ago, I made a short trip through Alabama. I found Mississippi worst of all the states I visited, but there was a very "hillbilly" feel to the whole area, more so than anywhere else in this country.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 09, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

How is Alabama so violent? Shooting signs is just a rural country element ALL ACROSS THE USA!!! Ease up on that violent label. As you stated...you've never been there, so don't rush to judgement.

That came out wrong. Being from the northeast, shooting signs is, well, not heard of in my parts of the woods. I'm not judging Alabama; my statement was based off of Alabama ranking high on the "most violent states" lists published by various websites. I'm sure there are nice places in Alabama, much like every state despite what people think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 09, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 09, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

How is Alabama so violent? Shooting signs is just a rural country element ALL ACROSS THE USA!!! Ease up on that violent label. As you stated...you've never been there, so don't rush to judgement.

A few months ago, I made a short trip through Alabama. I found Mississippi worst of all the states I visited, but there was a very "hillbilly" feel to the whole area, more so than anywhere else in this country.

How was Mississippi the "worst"?  Seems to me some ranking like that would risk making oneself look rather judgmental. :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on August 09, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 09, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

How is Alabama so violent? Shooting signs is just a rural country element ALL ACROSS THE USA!!! Ease up on that violent label. As you stated...you've never been there, so don't rush to judgement.

That came out wrong. Being from the northeast, shooting signs is, well, not heard of in my parts of the woods. I'm not judging Alabama; my statement was based off of Alabama ranking high on the "most violent states" lists published by various websites. I'm sure there are nice places in Alabama, much like every state despite what people think.
You'll see sign shooting in extreme southeastern PA near the Delaware border, so it's not exactly an extinct practice around this part of the country.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 09, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 09, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

How is Alabama so violent? Shooting signs is just a rural country element ALL ACROSS THE USA!!! Ease up on that violent label. As you stated...you've never been there, so don't rush to judgement.

A few months ago, I made a short trip through Alabama. I found Mississippi worst of all the states I visited, but there was a very "hillbilly" feel to the whole area, more so than anywhere else in this country.

How was Mississippi the "worst"?  Seems to me some ranking like that would risk making oneself look rather judgmental. :D

It's my entirely subjective opinion, of which I am entitled to possess. Opinions in and of themselves are "judgmental"; whether or not they offend you, is up to you.

If you wanted to me to, perhaps, list;

- Miserable weather
- No big cities
- Lots of hillbillies
- bad drivers
- etc.

Now, keep in mind I just finished visiting Nashville when I visited Mississippi, which is a beautiful city (in my opinion), and that may have hindered my objective view of Mississippi overall.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TrevorB on August 09, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
As a Mississippi resident...I feel the need to quickly chime in before this thread is completely derailed.

First of all, Mississippi is not my favorite state. We lag behind others in many categories, but I don't see any need to rank us (or any state for that matter) the worst.

For instance, I could argue with all of your points:

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- Miserable weather

Hot in the summer, not any warmer than any other nearby states. Average rainfall, tons of sunny days.

Not brutally cold winters but the occasional snowstorm, again not unlike any other state.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- No big cities

Jackson is larger than any city in Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia, Montana...I could go on, but you get the point.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- Lots of hillbillies

Meanwhile in Canada, everyone says "eh", drinks maple syrup, and loves hockey.

Obviously that's not true for Canada. They're stereotypes. Yes there are a lot of "country folks", same for Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, etc. Nothing wrong with it.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- bad drivers

You could say that for almost every state in the country.


I don't know what part of Mississippi you came through, but you obviously didn't get the full picture. I'd invite you to make a stop in Jackson, Biloxi, or DeSoto County; have a nice glass of sweet tea, and get a true taste for Mississippi before you bash our state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 09, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on August 09, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
As a Mississippi resident...I feel the need to quickly chime in before this thread is completely derailed.

First of all, Mississippi is not my favorite state. We lag behind others in many categories, but I don't see any need to rank us (or any state for that matter) the worst.

For instance, I could argue with all of your points:

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- Miserable weather

Hot in the summer, not any warmer than any other nearby states. Average rainfall, tons of sunny days.

Not brutally cold winters but the occasional snowstorm, again not unlike any other state.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- No big cities

Jackson is larger than any city in Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia, Montana...I could go on, but you get the point.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- Lots of hillbillies

Meanwhile in Canada, everyone says "eh", drinks maple syrup, and loves hockey.

Obviously that's not true for Canada. They're stereotypes. Yes there are a lot of "country folks", same for Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, etc. Nothing wrong with it.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- bad drivers

You could say that for almost every state in the country.


I don't know what part of Mississippi you came through, but you obviously didn't get the full picture. I'd invite you to make a stop in Jackson, Biloxi, or DeSoto County; have a nice glass of sweet tea, and get a true taste for Mississippi before you bash our state.


And thus we see, Jakeroot, that announcing that you've determined that a state is the "worst," leads others to believe that your opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 09, 2015, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 09, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on August 09, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
As a Mississippi resident...I feel the need to quickly chime in before this thread is completely derailed.

First of all, Mississippi is not my favorite state. We lag behind others in many categories, but I don't see any need to rank us (or any state for that matter) the worst.

For instance, I could argue with all of your points:

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- Miserable weather

Hot in the summer, not any warmer than any other nearby states. Average rainfall, tons of sunny days.

Not brutally cold winters but the occasional snowstorm, again not unlike any other state.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- No big cities

Jackson is larger than any city in Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia, Montana...I could go on, but you get the point.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- Lots of hillbillies

Meanwhile in Canada, everyone says "eh", drinks maple syrup, and loves hockey.

Obviously that's not true for Canada. They're stereotypes. Yes there are a lot of "country folks", same for Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, etc. Nothing wrong with it.

Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 08:56:31 PM
- bad drivers

You could say that for almost every state in the country.


I don't know what part of Mississippi you came through, but you obviously didn't get the full picture. I'd invite you to make a stop in Jackson, Biloxi, or DeSoto County; have a nice glass of sweet tea, and get a true taste for Mississippi before you bash our state.


And thus we see, Jakeroot, that announcing that you've determined that a state is the "worst," leads others to believe that your opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. :D

I just wonder how someone can spend a few hours in a state; maybe a day at the most, and is thus qualified to say that the weather in the entire state is the worst of all 50 states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2015, 11:22:39 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 09, 2015, 10:40:37 PM
I just wonder how someone can spend a few hours in a state; maybe a day at the most, and is thus qualified to say that the weather in the entire state is the worst of all 50 states.

Didn't say that. What I did say was that Mississippi has bad weather, which it does (even sunny days are pretty fucking miserable for someone from the great northwest -- of course, I'm speaking of the humidity. Plus, the tornadoes and thunderstorms, and occasional ice storm or hurricane remnants don't help its case). And yes, it's not the only state with these traits, but that doesn't mean it can't factor into my overall dislike of the state.

To go back to my original comment about Mississippi being the worst, (pardon the bold) it was the worst of the states I visited on my road trip just last March (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15154.msg2054062#msg2054062), not the worst of the states I've visited thus far in my life.

Quote from: Rothman on August 09, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
And thus we see, Jakeroot, that announcing that you've determined that a state is the "worst," leads others to believe that your opinion isn't worth a hill of beans. :D

That's kind of how opinions work. Some like them, some don't. What's your point? People don't have to like me if they don't want to.

Quote from: TrevorB on August 09, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
As a Mississippi resident...I feel the need to quickly chime in before this thread is completely derailed.
...

I don't know what part of Mississippi you came through, but you obviously didn't get the full picture. I'd invite you to make a stop in Jackson, Biloxi, or DeSoto County; have a nice glass of sweet tea, and get a true taste for Mississippi before you bash our state.

Perhaps not, and I will pay another visit in good time. If you haven't already, please read a couple paragraphs up where I mention that Mississippi was my least favorite state in my recent driving trip, not contrasting all 50 states.

I feel my view of Mississippi was weighted down by my father's two years at Columbus AFB, when he was doing flight training. He did not like his time there, and consistently ranks it among his least favorite places to revisit. There was a certain precedent that MS wouldn't be a great place, so once I actually visited and didn't really love it, things went downhill from there.

Quote from: TrevorB on August 09, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
Meanwhile in Canada, everyone says "eh", drinks maple syrup, and loves hockey...Obviously that's not true for Canada. They're stereotypes.

Still pretty damn funny, though.

https://youtu.be/bulMs80W6aQ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 10, 2015, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: formulanone on August 09, 2015, 03:43:28 PM
White-on-green "county road" sign (seems more like a private driveway) located in Cleburn County, Alabama:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/310/20435810205_15c28dd092_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x8QSpg)
Cleburn County 417 (https://flic.kr/p/x8QSpg) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr

It probably is just a private driveway, with a county road designation assigned purely for the benefit of emergency services. Note the "E-911" on there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on August 10, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 08, 2015, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 08, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on August 08, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 07, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.

It's photoshopped, but not for that reason. New signs on rusty poles are relatively common.

Zoom in, and you can see the blurred edges of the sign. And there's no bolt heads protruding thru the sign, bolting the sign onto the pole.
The wavy horizontal shading difference in the center of the sign is another big tipoff.


That all being said, it is based on a real sign.  I have seen these many places around the country, and they always cause a WTF response from me.
While the sign conveys an understandable message it seems extremely obvious. These signs can be the subject of internet memes such as being in "You don't say?" memes.

I'll have to burst the bubbles of all those detectives that felt this was 'shopped. I know it's real because I shot this picture with my iPhone during our recent vacation in southern Indiana. As someone observed, it's a new sign on a very old post. That's what INDOT, in their wisdom, erected. The lack of obvious bolts is probably testament to the poor detail from an iPhone shot.

The sign is along the Ohio River Scenic Byway, AKA SR 66. I wish I could pin it down further, but I didn't take a note on the exact location. We stopped twice to take pictures, in Derby and Leavenworth, so it may have been in one of those towns.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TrevorB on August 10, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
Wait...you mean you're really trying to pass this off as a legitimate photograph? I honestly hope you're kidding...but if not:

First off...here's the sign. Clearly a computerized sign and not legitimate. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/14777505003779856/

Then, someone (presumably not you), photoshopped that sign onto the image of the pole and posted it here. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/573786808748413942/

So not only are you sharing around a fake photo, you're lying saying that you took the photo, when in reality, you just found it online.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 10, 2015, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: theline on August 10, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
I'll have to burst the bubbles of all those detectives that felt this was 'shopped. I know it's real because I shot this picture with my iPhone during our recent vacation in southern Indiana. As someone observed, it's a new sign on a very old post. That's what INDOT, in their wisdom, erected. The lack of obvious bolts is probably testament to the poor detail from an iPhone shot.

The sign is along the Ohio River Scenic Byway, AKA SR 66. I wish I could pin it down further, but I didn't take a note on the exact location. We stopped twice to take pictures, in Derby and Leavenworth, so it may have been in one of those towns.

:no:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 10, 2015, 05:52:08 PM
Yeah, there's NO WAY that sign is real.  It looks like a piece of plastic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 10, 2015, 05:55:35 PM
The color schemes don't match... The overall colors of the photo versus the signs just don't match up, in addition to all the other things already listed. I physically cannot see how this is real.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on August 10, 2015, 06:08:25 PM
I'm with the consensus on this one. And even if this was real, it would have a degree of wear on it. Heck, not even a new sign looks that new.   :-/ / :-|
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
I fully agree with the consensus that this is not real. It just looks too much like the sign looks on a computer before actually being manufactured and exposed to even the most basic elements like air. Also theline says that this is on IN 66 but the road looks like it is gravel. As far as I know IN 66 is fully paved.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 10, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
even the most basic elements like air

Air is a mixture, not an element.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 10, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
even the most basic elements like air

Air is a mixture, not an element.
Well I didn't think of that. But my point about the picture was that it hadn't been exposed to real life. It looks like it is a computer model for the sign and not the real sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?
From what I remember the distance to Mitchell Avenue from that sign assembly (Also the gore point of the southbound I-75 to eastbound OH 562 ramp) has always been the same. It could have to do with the recent construction at the interchange.

I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

It is construction related. I-75 southbound splits into a temporary express/local lanes configuration through the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?
From what I remember the distance to Mitchell Avenue from that sign assembly (Also the gore point of the southbound I-75 to eastbound OH 562 ramp) has always been the same. It could have to do with the recent construction at the interchange.

I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

It is construction related. I-75 southbound splits into a temporary express/local lanes configuration through the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
Actually last time I was on I-75 through there I-75 doesn't go into it's temporary express/local lane configuration until south of the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:28:01 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?
From what I remember the distance to Mitchell Avenue from that sign assembly (Also the gore point of the southbound I-75 to eastbound OH 562 ramp) has always been the same. It could have to do with the recent construction at the interchange.

I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

It is construction related. I-75 southbound splits into a temporary express/local lanes configuration through the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
Actually last time I was on I-75 through there I-75 doesn't go into it's temporary express/local lane configuration until south of the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
I seem to remember it being through the interchange as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:28:01 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?
From what I remember the distance to Mitchell Avenue from that sign assembly (Also the gore point of the southbound I-75 to eastbound OH 562 ramp) has always been the same. It could have to do with the recent construction at the interchange.

I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

It is construction related. I-75 southbound splits into a temporary express/local lanes configuration through the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
Actually last time I was on I-75 through there I-75 doesn't go into it's temporary express/local lane configuration until south of the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
I seem to remember it being through the interchange as well.
Hmm, strange. Maybe my memory is screwing with me but I recall going through the interchange within the past 2 weeks and seeing it having a normal configuration until just south of the interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 10, 2015, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:28:01 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on August 10, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 05, 2015, 07:37:21 PM
Probably patched over a distance to the exit that's no longer accurate then (and/or still subject to change).

P.S. We haven't mentioned that it's in Clearview yet?
From what I remember the distance to Mitchell Avenue from that sign assembly (Also the gore point of the southbound I-75 to eastbound OH 562 ramp) has always been the same. It could have to do with the recent construction at the interchange.

I never noticed it was in Clearview probably because the only fonts I can tell are between button copy and the rest of the fonts.

It is construction related. I-75 southbound splits into a temporary express/local lanes configuration through the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
Actually last time I was on I-75 through there I-75 doesn't go into it's temporary express/local lane configuration until south of the Mitchell Avenue interchange.
I seem to remember it being through the interchange as well.
Hmm, strange. Maybe my memory is screwing with me but I recall going through the interchange within the past 2 weeks and seeing it having a normal configuration until just south of the interchange.

Every time I go through there (which is maybe a few times a year) it seems to be configured differently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 11, 2015, 06:47:42 AM

Quote from: 1 on August 10, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
even the most basic elements like air

Air is a mixture, not an element.

It is indeed one of the traditional four elements of earth, air, fire, and water, and an element in a generic sense such as are the elements of style, or anything elementary.  And of course when folks speak of exposure to the elements, air, water, and sun make up most of the mix.

It is not a chemical element, but an element it remains.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on August 11, 2015, 01:53:08 PM
Quote from: theline on August 10, 2015, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 08, 2015, 12:54:54 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 08, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on August 08, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 07, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 07, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 07, 2015, 06:38:22 PM
Quote from: theline on August 07, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Straight from the DUH department:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fs4q55l.jpg&hash=a82f1b48581a1269739832bfe95274e4e0257489)

Is that real?  Or is it photoshopped?
Yep clearly photoshopped. Notice the rust at the pole, and note how the sign looks brand spanking new it looks compared to the pole.

It's photoshopped, but not for that reason. New signs on rusty poles are relatively common.

Zoom in, and you can see the blurred edges of the sign. And there's no bolt heads protruding thru the sign, bolting the sign onto the pole.
The wavy horizontal shading difference in the center of the sign is another big tipoff.


That all being said, it is based on a real sign.  I have seen these many places around the country, and they always cause a WTF response from me.
While the sign conveys an understandable message it seems extremely obvious. These signs can be the subject of internet memes such as being in "You don't say?" memes.

I'll have to burst the bubbles of all those detectives that felt this was 'shopped. I know it's real because I shot this picture with my iPhone during our recent vacation in southern Indiana. As someone observed, it's a new sign on a very old post. That's what INDOT, in their wisdom, erected. The lack of obvious bolts is probably testament to the poor detail from an iPhone shot.

The sign is along the Ohio River Scenic Byway, AKA SR 66. I wish I could pin it down further, but I didn't take a note on the exact location. We stopped twice to take pictures, in Derby and Leavenworth, so it may have been in one of those towns.

Stop it. I'm a graphic designer and can easily tell that sign is fake and a poor fake at that. You might want to clean up the edges of the sign before you go spreading lies. The edges of the sign are full of white artifacts from the background it was clipped from. The faux gloss effect to attempt to make it look like its reflecting light was terrible and the lighting doesn't match the rest of the pic. Sorry. Try again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bugo on August 12, 2015, 02:23:49 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 09, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
It's Alabama. I'd assume that is the case.

I kind of figured, being that Alabama is one of the most violent states in the country, but I really didn't think that it was all that bad.. of course, I've never even been to Alabama, so I can't really say anything about it.

I'm breaking my self-imposed exile from posting here, but that's the stupidest thing I've ever read. You've never been somewhere but you're an expert on it. Alabama is not one of the most violent states in the country. Places like Los Angeles, New York, New Jersey, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Houston, Albuquerque, and even Little Rock are more violent than Alabama. I don't know how you pulled that line of bullshit out of your ass, but every time you post something you embarrass yourself. No wonder you were so ashamed of your manifesto. Think before you post. Read your posts 20 times before you hit "post" if you have to. I'm not being a dick, I'm trying to help you restore the dignity that you lost when you had your meltdown a few weeks ago. Think before you post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 12, 2015, 02:46:57 AM
Does anyone have a feeling that this thread's gone downhill? I have already.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 12, 2015, 03:54:08 AM

Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 02:23:49 AMdignity

This word has no place in this conversation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bugo on August 12, 2015, 04:34:39 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 12, 2015, 02:46:57 AM
Does anyone have a feeling that this thread's gone downhill? I have already.

This thread started at the bottom of the hill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 06:00:54 AM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 02:23:49 AM
Alabama is not one of the most violent states in the country.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13126088/1/10-most-dangerous-states-for-you-and-your-family-to-live-in.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/most-violent-states_55ad028be4b0d2ded39f5ca4
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bugo on August 12, 2015, 07:50:00 AM
Two can play the link game.

http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/blog/2014/06/where-does-alabama-rank-among-the-nations-safest.html

http://wvtm.membercenter.worldnow.com/story/25786041/alabama-ranked-in-top-25-safest-states-in-us-according-to-new-study
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on August 12, 2015, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 07:50:00 AM
Two can play the link game.

http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/blog/2014/06/where-does-alabama-rank-among-the-nations-safest.html

http://wvtm.membercenter.worldnow.com/story/25786041/alabama-ranked-in-top-25-safest-states-in-us-according-to-new-study

Bugo, you do realize that these are the same study, repeated by local Alabama news organizations to emphasize the parts that make selected other states look worse than Alabama?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bugo on August 12, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
My point is that any study can be manipulated to make something look good or bad. My links showed Alabama as a middle of the road state as far as being safe when the OP claimed AL was one of the most dangerous states. Actually he said "violent" then posted links about "safest". Lists of "safest" areas take into account many things other than violence, like non-violent crime and car accidents. This thread has gone down the shitter and should just be locked.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: intelati49 on August 12, 2015, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 12, 2015, 02:46:57 AM
Does anyone have a feeling that this thread's gone downhill? I have already.

Meh, it has taken a few detours and wrong exits, but it's still one of the threads I check everyday.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 12, 2015, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
My point is that any study can be manipulated to make something look good or bad. My links showed Alabama as a middle of the road state as far as being safe when the OP claimed AL was one of the most dangerous states. Actually he said "violent" then posted links about "safest". Lists of "safest" areas take into account many things other than violence, like non-violent crime and car accidents. This thread has gone down the shitter and should just be locked.

A 56 page thread should be locked because of a few posts with a difference of opinion?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on August 12, 2015, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 01:13:33 PMThis thread has gone down the shitter and should just be locked.

You derail it for a dozen posts out of several hundred and then call for it being locked?
yea.
sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 12, 2015, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on August 12, 2015, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 01:13:33 PMThis thread has gone down the shitter and should just be locked.

You derail it for a dozen posts out of several hundred and then call for it being locked?
yea.
sure.

It should be noted that that comment was from bugo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 12, 2015, 03:44:53 PM

Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 01:13:33 PMThis thread has gone down the shitter and should just be locked.

No one else seems to think so.  It's an entertaining thread as long as long as everyone treats other posters nicely, which is easy to do because it's just a silly internet thread about signs and nothing in any way more serious than that.  We are all capable of reaching that very, very low bar.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 07:47:26 PM
That came out wrong. Being from the northeast, shooting signs is, well, not heard of in my parts of the woods. I'm not judging Alabama; my statement was based off of Alabama ranking high on the "most violent states" lists published by various websites. I'm sure there are nice places in Alabama, much like every state despite what people think.
Really? Because I'm from the northeast, and I've seen my share of it. Aside from using the sign as target practice, and the non-standard colors, what attracted my curiosity is the "Emergency 911" caption underneath.

That "E" does stand for "Emergency," right?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 05:41:03 PM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
My point is that any study can be manipulated to make something look good or bad. My links showed Alabama as a middle of the road state as far as being safe when the OP claimed AL was one of the most dangerous states. Actually he said "violent" then posted links about "safest". Lists of "safest" areas take into account many things other than violence, like non-violent crime and car accidents. This thread has gone down the shitter and should just be locked.

The person who is against moderation is suggesting moderation. How ironic. This thread is fine as it is. Most of the discussion is focused on the signs. If this small tangent gets out of control, it gets split and canned or made into a new topic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on August 12, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 10, 2015, 06:36:38 PM
I fully agree with the consensus that this is not real. It just looks too much like the sign looks on a computer before actually being manufactured and exposed to even the most basic elements like air. Also theline says that this is on IN 66 but the road looks like it is gravel. As far as I know IN 66 is fully paved.

My apologies to all for inadvertently misrepresenting the sign. The picture showed up among a bunch of iPhone photos that I took in Leavenworth and Derby, Indiana, on our recent vacation. Since it was among those pictures, I assumed I had snapped it there. I now realize that I must have saved the photo off of some web site, which is an extreme rarity for me. I can't even recall why I saved it, and I wish I hadn't.

I'm sorry to have caused such an uproar. I'm grateful to those sleuths that figured it out. My face is still red.  :colorful:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 12, 2015, 06:34:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on August 12, 2015, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: bugo on August 12, 2015, 07:50:00 AM
Two can play the link game.

http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/blog/2014/06/where-does-alabama-rank-among-the-nations-safest.html

http://wvtm.membercenter.worldnow.com/story/25786041/alabama-ranked-in-top-25-safest-states-in-us-according-to-new-study

Bugo, you do realize that these are the same study, repeated by local Alabama news organizations to emphasize the parts that make selected other states look worse than Alabama?


My head hasn't been mistaken for a sign, so that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 12, 2015, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 06:32:51 PM
Can't say I've seen any in Hillsborough or the surrounding area. Then again, New Jersey gun laws are strict so maybe people think twice about it...
It's also more common in rural areas.  Given that there are fewer rural areas in NJ than in states that aren't wedged between NYC and Philly, it stands to reason that signs with bullet holes are less common in NJ as well.  There are a few in northern NY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
I'm just gonna insert a couple unique signs I spotted in Seattle-area today:

Trucks over 40 feet? Are they common? Thought it was for height, not length. Whoops.
http://i.imgur.com/WI1HQMv.jpg

Probably contractor-installed. Besides the white guide sign, Washington doesn't currently use this style of gantry:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXd0FAGt.jpg&hash=2c983650544c77c59bd40dfb8fc15d72d614521e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 12, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
I'm just gonna insert a couple unique signs I spotted in Seattle-area today:

Trucks over 40 feet? Are they common?
Semi Trucks usually have a 53' long trailer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on August 12, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
Trucks over 40 feet? Are they common?

Is the confusion here over whether or not this is referring to height or length?  Length seems like the only possible restriction in the scenario that the ramp is narrow and has sharp corners.

EDIT: late, poor mobile connection FTL
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:46:13 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 12, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
I'm just gonna insert a couple unique signs I spotted in Seattle-area today:

Trucks over 40 feet? Are they common?

Semi Trucks usually have a 53' long trailer.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F6OWIl75ibpuFO%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=58badd6413e50628c9e43ea9bf22a0652ec5a772)

I was thinking height. God damn I'm stupid.

Quote from: Alex4897 on August 12, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
Is the confusion here over whether or not this is referring to height or length?  Length seems like the only possible restriction in the scenario that the ramp is narrow and has sharp corners.

Yeah, turns out I can't think today. Must have been the thunderstorm this morning.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2015, 08:43:34 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 12, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
I'm just gonna insert a couple unique signs I spotted in Seattle-area today:

Trucks over 40 feet? Are they common?
Semi Trucks usually have a 53' long trailer.
I'm pretty sure that has been the standard for over 20 years. I still remember when 48' was considered the norm.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Ffullcolourvms.jpg&hash=acf5b23ec6664c140ed97f111ea0c3b69d77d835)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 12, 2015, 09:31:38 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Ffullcolourvms.jpg&hash=acf5b23ec6664c140ed97f111ea0c3b69d77d835)

That's fantastic.  The fact that I'm reading this board makes it reasonable that my first reaction was, "The corners are squared" and the second, "It's digital!"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 12, 2015, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(Image)
That's brilliant. Pretty advanced VMS considering it can display a sign. Really shows what a full colour VMS can actually do.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 12, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 12, 2015, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(Image)
That's brilliant. Pretty advanced VMS considering it can display a sign. Really shows what a full colour VMS can actually do.

I thought the VMSes in Ontario that can show single-color versions of warning signs and modified APLs were advanced. This takes it to a new level.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 10:04:43 PM
Ontario still hasn't really ever used their fully colour VMS signs to their potential.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7126/6880983984_e4550ca446_z_d.jpg)
Bovina, MS (old US 80)

(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida


This is very similar to a sign that says "ROAD MAY BE FLOODED" on NJ 29 in Hopewell, NJ. I like to joke around and read it as "the road may be - possibly - just a slight chance - flooded."  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 13, 2015, 12:10:32 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida


This is very similar to a sign that says "ROAD MAY BE FLOODED" on NJ 29 in Hopewell, NJ. I like to joke around and read it as "the road may be - possibly - just a slight chance - flooded."  :D
Clearly northern NJ always gets flooded. Or it was a kindergartener prank gone into a sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 13, 2015, 07:13:34 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida


This is very similar to a sign that says "ROAD MAY BE FLOODED" on NJ 29 in Hopewell, NJ. I like to joke around and read it as "the road may be - possibly - just a slight chance - flooded."  :D

Both are still better than a sign that used to be on Woodburn Road in Fairfax County, Virginia. Back in the days of the old one-lane bridge (prior to about the mid-1980s), the road flooded frequently. The warning sign, which was meant to be turned sideways when not needed but never was turned, said "ROAD CLOSED HIGH WATER." Having that sign in place permanently kind of defeated the purpose of having the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 13, 2015, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 12, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida


This is very similar to a sign that says "ROAD MAY BE FLOODED" on NJ 29 in Hopewell, NJ. I like to joke around and read it as "the road may be - possibly - just a slight chance - flooded."  :D

29 in that area suffers from the mountains along the Delaware River further north in Jersey, PA and NY.  I'm not sure why it happens - maybe it's low-level land; maybe the river narrows slightly, or whatever, but that area can flood on a perfectly sunny day, because of heavy rains have occurred a few days prior especially in the mountains as mentioned above.

Other low-lying areas near tidal waters can suffer the same flooding, which possibly has something to do with the signage in the picture above.  Moon phases that bring higher than normal high tides can cause flooding on otherwise peaceful days as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on August 14, 2015, 03:10:27 AM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Ffullcolourvms.jpg&hash=acf5b23ec6664c140ed97f111ea0c3b69d77d835)

This should go in the "Best of Road Signs" thread.

But I have to wonder, why not just put up a sign for that exit?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ChezeHed81 on August 14, 2015, 07:17:39 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/20571651021_65ee8ce016_b.jpg)
This is one of four of these gems that were put up along Delaware Route 1, Southbound, approaching Route 273 sometime Wednesday night or Thursday.  The route shield does look blue in person.  I'm don't know whether to consider it some variation of "Floridachrome" (US-90 & US-92 were white on blue), a lengthy detour to Nevada, or a serious downgrade of one of the east coast's most heavily used traffic corridors.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 14, 2015, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: ChezeHed81 on August 14, 2015, 07:17:39 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/20571651021_65ee8ce016_b.jpg)
This is one of four of these gems that were put up along Delaware Route 1, Southbound, approaching Route 273 sometime Wednesday night or Thursday.  The route shield does look blue in person.  I'm don't know whether to consider it some variation of "Floridachrome" (US-90 & US-92 were white on blue), a lengthy detour to Nevada, or a serious downgrade of one of the east coast's most heavily used traffic corridors.
Maybe the contractor was born in Florida, raised in Nevada, then got a job in Delaware as a contractor...THEN he failed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TEG24601 on August 14, 2015, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on August 14, 2015, 03:10:27 AM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Ffullcolourvms.jpg&hash=acf5b23ec6664c140ed97f111ea0c3b69d77d835)

This should go in the "Best of Road Signs" thread.

But I have to wonder, why not just put up a sign for that exit?


Likely couldn't get a narrower VMS without it being too narrow for MNDOT's rules. 


Just a supposition from GSV - It appears that the sign changes depending on traffic.  The current GSV also adds exits for Cedar Ave, and 5th St., without an exit number, but an "Exit Only" designator.  However Exit 235A is not "Exit Only", but 234 B-C is.  It seem that when traffic is heavy, the VMS changes to get people going to 234B-C to enter at this point, along with those going to 235A to avoid the backups, then when traffic is light, it reverts to the image above.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc1BDezs.png&hash=207e440611c4f142f1c15e14fd301a672f9d38bb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on August 14, 2015, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: ChezeHed81 on August 14, 2015, 07:17:39 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/20571651021_65ee8ce016_b.jpg)
This is one of four of these gems that were put up along Delaware Route 1, Southbound, approaching Route 273 sometime Wednesday night or Thursday.  The route shield does look blue in person.  I'm don't know whether to consider it some variation of "Floridachrome" (US-90 & US-92 were white on blue), a lengthy detour to Nevada, or a serious downgrade of one of the east coast's most heavily used traffic corridors.

I've seen some terrible construction signage in conjunction with that interchange project, but this takes the cake.  Strange though, I drove through there Wednesday night and didn't see this at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 14, 2015, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: ChezeHed81 on August 14, 2015, 07:17:39 AM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/20571651021_65ee8ce016_b.jpg)
This is one of four of these gems that were put up along Delaware Route 1, Southbound, approaching Route 273 sometime Wednesday night or Thursday.  The route shield does look blue in person.  I'm don't know whether to consider it some variation of "Floridachrome" (US-90 & US-92 were white on blue), a lengthy detour to Nevada, or a serious downgrade of one of the east coast's most heavily used traffic corridors.
I don't care if people think it's ugly and erroneous, but I like that shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on August 15, 2015, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on August 14, 2015, 03:10:27 AM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Ffullcolourvms.jpg&hash=acf5b23ec6664c140ed97f111ea0c3b69d77d835)

This should go in the "Best of Road Signs" thread.

But I have to wonder, why not just put up a sign for that exit?
We got this full color, sign dispaying VMS in Orlando:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daktronics.com%2FSiteCollectionBanners%2FOrlando-Orange-County-Expressway-Authority_Orlando-Florida_VF-2020_34mm.jpg%3FRenditionID%3D16&hash=7248de1bb05a7af935ec7b398b25e8955e10863e)
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5380638,-81.3608361,3a,15.1y,255.37h,94.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFd79eMd6o9B0Ruk2gl--hg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

All the Orlando toll roads have digital arrow signs that seem to never ever change, including when they've closed all of the lanes for construction in the past.
(https://www.cfxway.com/Portals/0/skins/expressway/slider_images/4c4eb443-975b-47de-a275-fe7b21fe3f24.jpg)

I've never seen it change. However, they are just starting a revamp of the interchange so its possible within the next few years, it will finally display a new message. Hopefully the old message isn't burned into the sign for displaying the same sign for the past several years. Orlando's also got a bunch of digital number signs displaying exit numbers that never change, except for when they seem to go into test mode a few times a day.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 15, 2015, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2015, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on August 09, 2015, 07:47:26 PM
That came out wrong. Being from the northeast, shooting signs is, well, not heard of in my parts of the woods. I'm not judging Alabama; my statement was based off of Alabama ranking high on the "most violent states" lists published by various websites. I'm sure there are nice places in Alabama, much like every state despite what people think.
Really? Because I'm from the northeast, and I've seen my share of it. Aside from using the sign as target practice, and the non-standard colors, what attracted my curiosity is the "Emergency 911" caption underneath.

That "E" does stand for "Emergency," right?



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_9-1-1

Part of E-911 is  automatic reporting of caller location. Many rural areas,, when  implementing E-911, had to assign addresses to places, and names to roads, which never had them before. I'm pretty sure that's why this sign exists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on August 12, 2015, 08:59:15 PM
interesting use of a full colour VMS in Minneapolis:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Ffullcolourvms.jpg&hash=acf5b23ec6664c140ed97f111ea0c3b69d77d835)
My first thought; why even bother with a VMS sign?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on August 16, 2015, 07:02:23 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
My first thought; why even bother with a VMS sign?
Try looking upstream (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2086329#msg2086329). ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 18, 2015, 01:09:19 AM
Quote from: jbnv on August 16, 2015, 07:02:23 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 16, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
My first thought; why even bother with a VMS sign?
Try looking upstream (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2086329#msg2086329). ;)
I saw that already, but it still seems pointless. It's like one line of cars gets to see the first version, and only the ones behind it and/or in front of it get to see the other.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 18, 2015, 02:03:29 PM
I don't know how common these are, but I haven't seen them prior to this month. They look new too.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5641/20496816370_ca6327f15a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xeexpG)
'Begin Odometer Check' Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xeexpG) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/662/20498054929_3a27ce0ec6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xekTAa)
'Begin Odometer Check' Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xekTAa) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/621/20685011215_a356399305_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xvS6bp)
Example of Odometer Marker Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xvS6bp) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

Anyone else seen this type of sign elsewhere?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 18, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
^^ Wisconsin used to have something similar with small mile check signs (for 4-10 miles) on certain expressways prior to the standard mile markers being installed on those roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 18, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 18, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
^^ Wisconsin used to have something similar with small mile check signs (for 4-10 miles) on certain expressways prior to the standard mile markers being installed on those roads.

Perhaps these ones were installed prior to the kilometre markers here. There are kilometre markers there, so why this sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 18, 2015, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 18, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 18, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
^^ Wisconsin used to have something similar with small mile check signs (for 4-10 miles) on certain expressways prior to the standard mile markers being installed on those roads.

Perhaps these ones were installed prior to the kilometre markers here. There are kilometre markers there, so why this sign?
I-5 in San Diego near the border had them, but they were in miles. I forgot what their purpose was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on August 18, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Massachusetts had them too.  They were signed as "Begin Measured Mile" and "End Measured Mile."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 18, 2015, 04:36:11 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on August 18, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Massachusetts had them too.  They were signed as "Begin Measured Mile" and "End Measured Mile."

MA 125 still has a set near mile markers 1-2.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 18, 2015, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on August 18, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Massachusetts had them too.  They were signed as "Begin Measured Mile" and "End Measured Mile."
Oregon has used such as well.

Quote from: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida
Talk about optical illusions.  If one gave that photo a quick glance (and if all location-specific signs & references were deleted); one would think that they were looking at snow rather than white sand.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on August 18, 2015, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 18, 2015, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 18, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 18, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
^^ Wisconsin used to have something similar with small mile check signs (for 4-10 miles) on certain expressways prior to the standard mile markers being installed on those roads.

Perhaps these ones were installed prior to the kilometre markers here. There are kilometre markers there, so why this sign?
I-5 in San Diego near the border had them, but they were in miles. I forgot what their purpose was.

They're for calibrating your odometer and speedometer, for people who have installed nonstandard size tires.  When you complete the measured mile in 60 seconds at an indicated 60 mph, you've calibrated it correctly.  It's easiest with the passenger operating the stopwatch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on August 18, 2015, 05:03:46 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on August 18, 2015, 04:39:11 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on August 18, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Massachusetts had them too.  They were signed as "Begin Measured Mile" and "End Measured Mile."
Oregon has used such as well.

Quote from: US71 on August 12, 2015, 10:47:51 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6879625262_1c81cbd8ba_z_d.jpg)
Gulf Coast Florida
Talk about optical illusions.  If one gave that photo a quick glance (and if all location-specific signs & references were deleted); one would think that they were looking at snow rather than white sand.
I had the same reaction the first time I saw the photo. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 18, 2015, 06:18:51 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on August 18, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Massachusetts had them too.  They were signed as "Begin Measured Mile" and "End Measured Mile."

When I was first driving, I remember seeing a few areas where they were installed.  A few were "sponsored" by AAA, as they had their logo on them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: iBallasticwolf2 on August 19, 2015, 08:24:30 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/610/20650992932_fa3aff2908_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xsRJJh) (https://flic.kr/p/xsRJJh) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133197723@N05/)
The "Cody Road Closed when flashing" sign seems unique in its own way.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/747/20039270323_5bacc76802_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wwNuUK) (https://flic.kr/p/wwNuUK) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133197723@N05/)
Both of these looks a decent age.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 19, 2015, 08:28:30 PM
There're three of these at this intersection in downtown Huntsville, AL. You can kinda see another one on the left-hand side of the photo:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5717/20725772551_56cb45c79a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xzt174)Green Street @ Monroe Street (https://flic.kr/p/xzt174) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's the third:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7343344,-86.5857323,3a,15y,214.68h,80.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s99OUcz9i_OpGjHULgZ6jlA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 19, 2015, 09:04:30 PM
A very specific intersecting-roads warning sign in Puyallup, Wash:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrWmFBHW.png&hash=2e11d7343a087b59a2b3825eb12265ae614a5029)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on August 20, 2015, 12:25:26 AM
Is it me, or does that sign remind me too much of Yellow Book's old hand logo from years ago? Looks pretty painful, too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 20, 2015, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on August 20, 2015, 12:25:26 AM
Is it me, or does that sign remind me too much of Yellow Book's old hand logo from years ago? Looks pretty painful, too.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com%2Fstltoday.com%2Fcontent%2Ftncms%2Fassets%2Fv3%2Feditorial%2F3%2F45%2F3457664c-4878-11e1-93c7-001a4bcf6878%2F4f21e63c0169d.preview-620.jpg&hash=7ea8644ac71ada44a2d696adeeb5b9909ff57829)

Let Your Fingers Do the Walking.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
My apologies if this sign is a 'typical' sign. I've only been to the US three times, so don't be too harsh  :) The numerals aren't series D/E. Found on I-81 northbound close to the border.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5699/20552619919_aaaaf31e71_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xjaxRR)
Interesting US Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xjaxRR) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 20, 2015, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 19, 2015, 09:04:30 PM
A very specific intersecting-roads warning sign in Puyallup, Wash:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrWmFBHW.png&hash=2e11d7343a087b59a2b3825eb12265ae614a5029)
This is where all of the explosive diarrhea happens in public. At least the stink is not facing us right now, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
My apologies if this sign is a 'typical' sign. I've only been to the US three times, so don't be too harsh  :) The numerals aren't series D/E. Found on I-81 northbound close to the border.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5699/20552619919_aaaaf31e71_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xjaxRR)
Interesting US Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xjaxRR) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

Oh, no. That's not typical. I've seen bad stuff come from local municipalities in New York and this is up there, even though it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 21, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).
Go take a look at some of the monstrosities the MTA erects.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 21, 2015, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 21, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).
Go take a look at some of the monstrosities the MTA erects.

Typically better than that crap
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 21, 2015, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 21, 2015, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 21, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).
Go take a look at some of the monstrosities the MTA erects.

Typically better than that crap
This sign makes me want to throw up... plus they seem to be allergic to exit tabs too:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fi278%2F100_9649-s.JPG&hash=1e8f980d34b79c355ad1ce872d81b1fcafc7ba5f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cu2010 on August 21, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
Oh, no. That's not typical. I've seen bad stuff come from local municipalities in New York and this is up there, even though it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).

That's actually an old, old font still seen all over Jefferson County. It's hardly the only one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 21, 2015, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 19, 2015, 09:04:30 PM
A very specific intersecting-roads warning sign in Puyallup, Wash:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrWmFBHW.png&hash=2e11d7343a087b59a2b3825eb12265ae614a5029)
MassDPW used to have a whole series of special curve warning signs that showed intersecting streets - they had complex alphabet suffixes like W1-2aXL, W1-2cBL, etc..  The principal differences in the old MassDPW signs from the sign depicted here was that the main street was thicker, and the top of the main street had an arrowhead.  The entire MassDPW series, which lasted into the 2000s, was discontinued when the MUTCD adopted the W1-10 curve warning sign - current MassDOT practice is to designate any and all such "intersection within curve" signs as W1-10, regardless of the number or type of intersecting streets depicted on the sign, and to give the layout for a specific location on the sign summary sheet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 23, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
Took a picture of this near my house the other day. On Private property of course..

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5671/20617668869_94a3b6f80b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xpUWDt)
US Style Metric Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xpUWDt) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

These guys are from the 2003 MUTCD. Metric speed limit signs are not in the 2009 version, and you won't find these guys anywhere in the US (with the exception of I-87 southbound at Exit 42 in New York).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on August 23, 2015, 05:40:55 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
Probably contractor-installed. Besides the white guide sign, Washington doesn't currently use this style of gantry:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXd0FAGt.jpg&hash=2c983650544c77c59bd40dfb8fc15d72d614521e)

I saw this the other day while going to Redmond. 

That gantry is used quite a bit in Clark County.  SR-500 and I-5 sports them. 
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6727039,-122.6643911,3a,26.9y,7.58h,91.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6zoisFAV9S6CeXNBDiZY9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hazel+Dell,+Hazel+Dell+South,+WA+98665/@45.6596914,-122.5635714,3a,57.8y,62.28h,93.81t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRi8xeNzfEon-4NniNw-vmg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DRi8xeNzfEon-4NniNw-vmg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D191.16144%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x5495aeefb40e9051:0x34e60fe7a541cf5e

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 23, 2015, 10:36:27 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 23, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
Took a picture of this near my house the other day. On Private property of course..

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5671/20617668869_94a3b6f80b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xpUWDt)
US Style Metric Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xpUWDt) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

These guys are from the 2003 MUTCD. Metric speed limit signs are not in the 2009 version, and you won't find these guys anywhere in the US (with the exception of I-87 southbound at Exit 42 in New York).
Seeing as that property is owned by BNSF, which is an American railroad, it doesn't surprise me that the sign is from the US MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 23, 2015, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: cu2010 on August 21, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
Oh, no. That's not typical. I've seen bad stuff come from local municipalities in New York and this is up there, even though it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).

That's actually an old, old font still seen all over Jefferson County. It's hardly the only one.

I was going to remark that Jefferson County DPW has used that font on everything for ever. Even new county route markers are occasionally using that type of lettering. It's really odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 23, 2015, 02:15:43 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on August 23, 2015, 05:40:55 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 12, 2015, 07:27:27 PM
Probably contractor-installed. Besides the white guide sign, Washington doesn't currently use this style of gantry:

http://i.imgur.com/Xd0FAGt.jpg

I saw this the other day while going to Redmond. 

That gantry is used quite a bit in Clark County.  SR-500 and I-5 sports them.

Oh, I know. I remember you showing me these a few months ago. That's why I was trying to say that they don't currently use them. I know did at one time (briefly, I assume).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 23, 2015, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 20, 2015, 07:12:16 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
My apologies if this sign is a 'typical' sign. I've only been to the US three times, so don't be too harsh  :) The numerals aren't series D/E. Found on I-81 northbound close to the border.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5699/20552619919_aaaaf31e71_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xjaxRR)
Interesting US Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xjaxRR) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

Oh, no. That's not typical. I've seen bad stuff come from local municipalities in New York and this is up there, even though it's from a toll authority (which typically get things right here).

This font is also used on the speed limit signs along North Mansion Road near Duanesburg, NY.  I'll post a photo once my phone cooperates.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 23, 2015, 04:53:14 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 23, 2015, 12:21:43 AM
Took a picture of this near my house the other day. On Private property of course..

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5671/20617668869_94a3b6f80b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xpUWDt)
US Style Metric Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xpUWDt) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

These guys are from the 2003 MUTCD. Metric speed limit signs are not in the 2009 version, and you won't find these guys anywhere in the US (with the exception of I-87 southbound at Exit 42 in New York).
There's also one on NY 812 northbound on the Ogdensburg-Prescott Bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 23, 2015, 06:12:15 PM
Here we go.  Huh.  Slightly different.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/748/20205349383_15eb1e8de9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wMtGqP)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on August 24, 2015, 09:59:06 AM

Quote from: kkt on August 18, 2015, 04:59:37 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on August 18, 2015, 02:56:53 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 18, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 18, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
^^ Wisconsin used to have something similar with small mile check signs (for 4-10 miles) on certain expressways prior to the standard mile markers being installed on those roads.

Perhaps these ones were installed prior to the kilometre markers here. There are kilometre markers there, so why this sign?
I-5 in San Diego near the border had them, but they were in miles. I forgot what their purpose was.

They're for calibrating your odometer and speedometer, for people who have installed nonstandard size tires.  When you complete the measured mile in 60 seconds at an indicated 60 mph, you've calibrated it correctly.  It's easiest with the passenger operating the stopwatch.

There is one neat here explicitly signed as being for the purpose of calibrating taxicab meters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on August 24, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on August 05, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
Forgive me if this is normal practice nowdays, (I don't think it is) but this KEEP RIGHT tab for the Mitchell Avenue Sign seems very unusual.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/370/20107388298_e3f13d9389_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wCPC1A) (https://flic.kr/p/wCPC1A)iBallasticwolf2 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133197723@N05/)
DISCLAIMER: The OH 562 sign IS NOT a canadite for this thread.


This is due to construction.  Just downstream of this sign, the left lane splits off and runs on the other side of the center barrier for about ¾ mile.  It rejoins the other lanes just upstream from the actual exit, and ODOT doesn't want people from that left lane cutting across to the exit, so here they instruct drivers wanting that exit not to be on that side of the split.  There are also temporary signs saying "Mitchell Ave KEEP RIGHT" as far as 3 miles upstream from here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 24, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 21, 2015, 01:00:32 PM
This sign makes me want to throw up... plus they seem to be allergic to exit tabs too:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnysroads.com%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2FNY%2Fi278%2F100_9649-s.JPG&hash=1e8f980d34b79c355ad1ce872d81b1fcafc7ba5f)

Hey, no photographs on the Verrazano, terrorist!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 24, 2015, 03:39:47 PM
I assume most of us have seen the ordinary diamond-shaped signs advising of what the lower speed limit ahead will be (in lieu of the generic black-on-white "Reduce Speed Ahead" sign).

As familiar as those are, I can't say as I've ever seen any this big before. Seen yesterday on southbound US-15 in Maryland approaching the Frederick area. They certainly caught the eye!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FUS-15%2520reduce%2520speed%2520signs_zpsqxv7mlfj.png&hash=0e1fac4cafc2e8a3f25ade51e4dd73605061f0fc)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 24, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Another odd sign assembly I saw yesterday....Street View is clearer than my dashcam in this case. Seen in the town of Gettysburg, it's a standard STOP sign with a black-on-white "EXCEPT RIGHT TURN" underneath it. I can't say I recall seeing this sort of thing handled that way ever before. This spot likely sees a fair amount of traffic because it's on the Barlow Knoll segment of the Gettysburg Auto Tour. (I've been to the battlefield many times but had never done any of the Auto Tour before because when I was growing up we always hiked the battlefield.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.836879,-77.235314,3a,66.8y,293.34h,79.27t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sVkiLrL1TnkGmd66r6fCOQg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 24, 2015, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 24, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Another odd sign assembly I saw yesterday....Street View is clearer than my dashcam in this case. Seen in the town of Gettysburg, it's a standard STOP sign with a black-on-white "EXCEPT RIGHT TURN" underneath it. I can't say I recall seeing this sort of thing handled that way ever before. This spot likely sees a fair amount of traffic because it's on the Barlow Knoll segment of the Gettysburg Auto Tour. (I've been to the battlefield many times but had never done any of the Auto Tour before because when I was growing up we always hiked the battlefield.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.836879,-77.235314,3a,66.8y,293.34h,79.27t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sVkiLrL1TnkGmd66r6fCOQg!2e0
There's quite a few of those in PA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 24, 2015, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 24, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Another odd sign assembly I saw yesterday....Street View is clearer than my dashcam in this case. Seen in the town of Gettysburg, it's a standard STOP sign with a black-on-white "EXCEPT RIGHT TURN" underneath it. I can't say I recall seeing this sort of thing handled that way ever before. This spot likely sees a fair amount of traffic because it's on the Barlow Knoll segment of the Gettysburg Auto Tour. (I've been to the battlefield many times but had never done any of the Auto Tour before because when I was growing up we always hiked the battlefield.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.836879,-77.235314,3a,66.8y,293.34h,79.27t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sVkiLrL1TnkGmd66r6fCOQg!2e0

That seems to be a common assembly in Pennsylvania.  I've seen that sign combo in a number of places in Western PA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 24, 2015, 06:33:47 PM
^^ "EXCEPT RIGHT TURN" is MUTCD standard W1-10P for under the stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jemacedo9 on August 24, 2015, 07:39:25 PM
I was somewhere in Central PA a couple of weeks ago (I clinched PA 235), and somewhere in there was an "EXCEPT RIGHT TURN" under a YIELD sign...only time I've ever seen that combo.  I wish I remembered the exact location...it was a T intersection where I would have expected a STOP sign with the EXCEPT RIGHT TURN...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 24, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 24, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Another odd sign assembly I saw yesterday....Street View is clearer than my dashcam in this case. Seen in the town of Gettysburg, it's a standard STOP sign with a black-on-white "EXCEPT RIGHT TURN" underneath it. I can't say I recall seeing this sort of thing handled that way ever before. This spot likely sees a fair amount of traffic because it's on the Barlow Knoll segment of the Gettysburg Auto Tour. (I've been to the battlefield many times but had never done any of the Auto Tour before because when I was growing up we always hiked the battlefield.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.836879,-77.235314,3a,66.8y,293.34h,79.27t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sVkiLrL1TnkGmd66r6fCOQg!2e0
Got a few of them here in Huntsville, AL as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 25, 2015, 09:59:21 PM
Comb Ahead - Missouri State Route 90

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5639/20876110162_5a6c94a88e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xNKweQ)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 28, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
For some reason, I don't remember seeing these "Historic US-99" markers along WA-99. This one was taken near Des Moines.

Inexplicably, about half of them are placed below speed limit signs.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XPUFCNh.jpg&hash=a957a89c71b1eb1586f16994e0be2d0d1661f3b9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 29, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 28, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
For some reason, I don't remember seeing these "Historic US-99" markets along WA-99. This one was taken near Des Moines.

Inexplicably, about half of them are placed below speed limit signs.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XPUFCNh.jpg&hash=a957a89c71b1eb1586f16994e0be2d0d1661f3b9)

!!

Finally! I hope a few will make their way north up to Snohomish County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on August 29, 2015, 01:40:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 28, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
For some reason, I don't remember seeing these "Historic US-99" markets along WA-99. This one was taken near Des Moines.

Inexplicably, about half of them are placed below speed limit signs.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XPUFCNh.jpg&hash=a957a89c71b1eb1586f16994e0be2d0d1661f3b9)

That is "best of" material, simply because I have been waiting years for these to be put up. If not "best of", then "best of Washington".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 29, 2015, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 28, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
For some reason, I don't remember seeing these "Historic US-99" markers along WA-99. This one was taken near Des Moines.

Inexplicably, about half of them are placed below speed limit signs.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XPUFCNh.jpg&hash=a957a89c71b1eb1586f16994e0be2d0d1661f3b9)
It reminds me of the Burma Shave ads that have to do with speeding in the Arizona desert. It just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 31, 2015, 06:31:12 PM
Saw this sign yesterday on my way into Joint Base Lewis-McChord McChord AFB along East Gate Drive...I matched up the text in Illustrator. It is definitely Transport:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEXVjNgd.jpg&hash=309da0ef167a1fc11cda4b94584ce56f41682acc)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on September 01, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
And you thought fraction routes were only in West Virginia. This is located in Minden, LA.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5803/20442529893_ebde9efdba_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x9riVX)79 over 80 Minden (https://flic.kr/p/x9riVX) by Josh Bumgardner (https://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on September 01, 2015, 03:37:49 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on September 01, 2015, 02:08:01 PM
And you thought fraction routes were only in West Virginia. This is located in Minden, LA.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5803/20442529893_ebde9efdba_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/x9riVX)79 over 80 Minden (https://flic.kr/p/x9riVX) by Josh Bumgardner (https://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/), on Flickr
That's actually the old style of signing the US 79/US 80 concurrency.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on September 01, 2015, 05:19:36 PM
I had forgotten how many 79/80 signs there actually were in northwest Louisiana. I found 7 on streetview. There are always approaching junctions and never mainline shields. Here are a couple:

East bound US 80 turning onto Texas St. in downtown Shreveport. Very small and narrow digits.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/684/21042959636_fb13b0af51_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/y4uELU)US 80 east bound Shreveport (https://flic.kr/p/y4uELU) by Josh Bumgardner (https://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/), on Flickr


Coming off the exit ramp at exit 8 on I-20 in Shreveport
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/713/20881092550_2521fac7ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xPc4k5)I-20 Exit 8 (https://flic.kr/p/xPc4k5) by Josh Bumgardner (https://www.flickr.com/photos/geojosh/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 02, 2015, 05:40:37 PM
Not ugly, but very unique.

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.6059483,-97.2032818,3a,19.1y,287.07h,86.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJtwKIpYloYzPwgdchoBKSA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

More like oddly specific since Texas doesn't normally have END shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on September 03, 2015, 06:22:24 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

presumably because the route does not end at another state maintained highway...not super familiar with Texas to know if in the other instances of that you would see a similar posting...

North Carolina has a couple state routes with advance warning END signs (NC 184 and US 76)

Mike
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 03, 2015, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on September 03, 2015, 06:22:24 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

presumably because the route does not end at another state maintained highway...not super familiar with Texas to know if in the other instances of that you would see a similar posting...

North Carolina has a couple state routes with advance warning END signs (NC 184 and US 76)

Mike

It is very rare to see an END assembly in Texas, even at the exact end of the highway period.  Just not a TxDOT thing.  And I have never seen an END assembly telling you exactly where the end is in any state.  I have seen the WARNING END before, but never an exact distance down to the foot.

It was so odd I couldn't stop staring at it. :-D

It is for the purpose of letting you know the road continues after the state designation stops, but the way that usually goes down in Texas is there will be a small rectangular sign, black letters on a white field that reads "STATE MAINTENANCE ENDS", and when you are going the opsoite direction, the shield will be displayed with the same rectangular sign reading "STATE MAINTENANCE BEGINS".

Example, but they are not on the same assembly:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2879817,-98.0678835,3a,17.7y,127.36h,86.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN_cH9YLaXINWmakqi7bulA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JCinSummerfield on September 03, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

Ohio does it with I-280 NB.  The end assemble is on an overhead BGS, 1 mile before the junction with I-75.  I believe that OH-15 WB is the same, near the junction with US-23.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 03, 2015, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on September 03, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

Ohio does it with I-280 NB.  The end assemble is on an overhead BGS, 1 mile before the junction with I-75.  I believe that OH-15 WB is the same, near the junction with US-23.

I don't recall seeing a ground-mounted assembly as described above with advanced warning of a route number that ends, but I have seen BGSs (both overhead and ground-mounted) with such info.

These 2 in NJ, for example:

https://goo.gl/maps/y8ICH

https://goo.gl/maps/fDaHB



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on September 03, 2015, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on September 03, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

Ohio does it with I-280 NB.  The end assemble is on an overhead BGS, 1 mile before the junction with I-75.  I believe that OH-15 WB is the same, near the junction with US-23.

Also I-670 EB has an advance end BGS at a distance of, IIRC, 1¼ miles. And then no further mention of 670 at all, even at its actual end.

OH 315 SB has an end assembly a bit before its actual terminus, but it appears to say 315 ends right there. I wonder if there was once a distance plaque posted below the shield...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on September 03, 2015, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 03, 2015, 09:39:44 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on September 03, 2015, 06:22:24 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

presumably because the route does not end at another state maintained highway...not super familiar with Texas to know if in the other instances of that you would see a similar posting...

North Carolina has a couple state routes with advance warning END signs (NC 184 and US 76)

Mike

It is very rare to see an END assembly in Texas, even at the exact end of the highway period.  Just not a TxDOT thing.  And I have never seen an END assembly telling you exactly where the end is in any state.  I have seen the WARNING END before, but never an exact distance down to the foot.

It was so odd I couldn't stop staring at it. :-D

It is for the purpose of letting you know the road continues after the state designation stops, but the way that usually goes down in Texas is there will be a small rectangular sign, black letters on a white field that reads "STATE MAINTENANCE ENDS", and when you are going the opsoite direction, the shield will be displayed with the same rectangular sign reading "STATE MAINTENANCE BEGINS".

Example, but they are not on the same assembly:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2879817,-98.0678835,3a,17.7y,127.36h,86.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN_cH9YLaXINWmakqi7bulA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I remember seeing a good many of those signs for FM routes in Texas. They are usually in rural areas or at places where the highway does not end at another numbered highway. Many times the road would lose state maintenance and turn to gravel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 05, 2015, 03:31:19 PM
Quote from: JCinSummerfield on September 03, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 03, 2015, 03:13:09 AM
I don't think I've ever seen something like this, essentially an "advance end" assembly. Not sure why that would even be necessary...

Ohio does it with I-280 NB.  The end assemble is on an overhead BGS, 1 mile before the junction with I-75.  I believe that OH-15 WB is the same, near the junction with US-23.

I-77 North has a BGS announcing it's end approaching I-90 in Downtown Cleveland:


https://goo.gl/maps/4azIZ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mwb1848 on September 06, 2015, 12:04:57 PM
Here's a TRUE warning sign about the end of a route number on I-110 in Biloxi, Mississippi:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4060689,-88.8944593,3a,21.1y,123.62h,87.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqbAHoOX1-h0ggARGklj2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Since it opened, motorists have had difficulties navigating the counter-intuitive interchange with US 90 at the end of the I-110 freeway: Eastbound traffic is accommodated by a sweeping loop ramp over the Mississippi Sound, while Westbound traffic is accommodated by a 90-degree RIRO set up.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3946971,-88.8942383,3a,75y,183.25h,80.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHyg74NcSqlJSo1aeCbpSxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 10, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found this in Texas on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.532138,-100.958932,3a,4.7y,223.97h,103.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4svSO0RxxZRVLmaaNF53sw!2e0?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 10, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 10, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found this in Texas on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.532138,-100.958932,3a,4.7y,223.97h,103.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4svSO0RxxZRVLmaaNF53sw!2e0?hl=en

That's an odd sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 11, 2015, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 10, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 10, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found this in Texas on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.532138,-100.958932,3a,4.7y,223.97h,103.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4svSO0RxxZRVLmaaNF53sw!2e0?hl=en

That's an odd sign?

Well, I've never seen a "protected left on green arrow" sign before. Not sure why that sign would even be necessary...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on September 11, 2015, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2015, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 10, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 10, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found this in Texas on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.532138,-100.958932,3a,4.7y,223.97h,103.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4svSO0RxxZRVLmaaNF53sw!2e0?hl=en

That's an odd sign?

Well, I've never seen a "protected left on green arrow" sign before. Not sure why that sign would even be necessary...

It's certainly not seen in Illinois.  Ours will say "Left Turn Yield on {green ball symbol}" or "Left Turn Yield on {flashing yellow arrow symbol}".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 11, 2015, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2015, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 10, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 10, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found this in Texas on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.532138,-100.958932,3a,4.7y,223.97h,103.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4svSO0RxxZRVLmaaNF53sw!2e0?hl=en

That's an odd sign?

Well, I've never seen a "protected left on green arrow" sign before. Not sure why that sign would even be necessary...

Maybe it's a Texas thing, because they are all over the state.  They are usually where a traffic signal has three selections, red ball, amber ball and green arrow.  I guess to tell people the green part is always protected.  Sometimes they are on traffic signals with multiple selections, to let people know arrow is protected and ball is not.

I remember a long time ago those signs having pictures on them: "LEFT TURN PROTECTED ON <- YIELD ON O"  (O being a green ball)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 12, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 11, 2015, 04:05:09 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 11, 2015, 12:59:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 10, 2015, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 10, 2015, 02:49:17 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, but I found this in Texas on Google Maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.532138,-100.958932,3a,4.7y,223.97h,103.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4svSO0RxxZRVLmaaNF53sw!2e0?hl=en

That's an odd sign?

Well, I've never seen a "protected left on green arrow" sign before. Not sure why that sign would even be necessary...

Maybe it's a Texas thing, because they are all over the state.  They are usually where a traffic signal has three selections, red ball, amber ball and green arrow.  I guess to tell people the green part is always protected.  Sometimes they are on traffic signals with multiple selections, to let people know arrow is protected and ball is not.

I remember a long time ago those signs having pictures on them: "LEFT TURN PROTECTED ON <- YIELD ON O"  (O being a green ball)

The green arrow is protected by definition, so that wording still seems unnecessary...

In Nevada, many older left turn signal heads with this configuration, likely dating from early adoption of the green arrow concept, were accompanied by a sign that said "Left turn on green arrow only" (or more rarely, "Left turn on left arrow only"). Many of these signs still exist, but are now adjacent to all-arrow signal heads and aren't as necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 12, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 12, 2015, 07:34:51 AM
The green arrow is protected by definition, so that wording still seems unnecessary...

It's exists purely as a reminder; a sad reminder of how ridiculously reliant American drivers are on signs to tell them exactly what to do. What's the point of Driver's Ed if all the rules are posted at each intersection? :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: traffic light guy on September 13, 2015, 07:23:28 PM
Quote from: Signal on December 05, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
My meager contribution... an odd ONE WAY and LTYOG combo sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2820%2F11198344835_478bd62c8d_z.jpg&hash=31d833f98e24aaefc3216f0447b54aa1a5f5e79f) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/)
8" 5-section Chapel Hill signal, 12"; DW-W Chapel Hill ped, Odd Combo Sign (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/) by Signals Unlimited (http://www.flickr.com/people/94611454@N02/), on Flickr

What are those, Eagle flatbacks?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Signal on September 14, 2015, 09:01:34 AM

Quote from: traffic light guy on September 13, 2015, 07:23:28 PM
Quote from: Signal on December 05, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
My meager contribution... an odd ONE WAY and LTYOG combo sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.staticflickr.com%2F2820%2F11198344835_478bd62c8d_z.jpg&hash=31d833f98e24aaefc3216f0447b54aa1a5f5e79f) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/)
8" 5-section Chapel Hill signal, 12"; DW-W Chapel Hill ped, Odd Combo Sign (http://www.flickr.com/photos/94611454@N02/11198344835/) by Signals Unlimited (http://www.flickr.com/people/94611454@N02/), on Flickr

What are those, Eagle flatbacks?

No, the 5-section facing you is Chapel Hill, and the 3-section facing right is Marbelite
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 15, 2015, 04:35:31 PM
Spotted in Bellevue, WA:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/635/20824391673_062ae1687e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xJbs8K)
Residential area signage in Bellevue (https://flic.kr/p/xJbs8K) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on September 15, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 15, 2015, 04:35:31 PM
Spotted in Bellevue, WA:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/635/20824391673_062ae1687e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xJbs8K)
Residential area signage in Bellevue (https://flic.kr/p/xJbs8K) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr

Why is he heading right for the baby???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on September 15, 2015, 09:37:18 PM
I'm not sure what to think about this. I guess the objective was to increase capacity by not making it clear too early that the right lane of the ramp to 40 eastbound would be dropped at an exit only half a mile away.
I took this as a gratuitous skyline shot, didn't notice the signage thing until later.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdnE79F3.jpg&hash=ee6a9abcdda764be45c95e0846f3de1e83fa9be2)


While we're in Nashville, I noticed this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9733347,-86.8053665,3a,75y,187.52h,90.27t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sd0sev19kTeWKOYSbcFQKrA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dd0sev19kTeWKOYSbcFQKrA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D235.49622%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) too late to get a photo. I'm far less ambivalent about it.   :no:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on September 16, 2015, 07:00:00 PM
Uh, this has got to be one of the smallest signs I've seen with an exit tab, for sure. Plus, it has a LEFT exit tab too!

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9717628,-73.8165218,3a,15y,232.8h,87.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sooOYGgyiPByPDBFb0slwow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 16, 2015, 07:12:01 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 16, 2015, 07:00:00 PM
Uh, this has got to be one of the smallest signs I've seen with an exit tab, for sure. Plus, it has a LEFT exit tab too!

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9717628,-73.8165218,3a,15y,232.8h,87.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sooOYGgyiPByPDBFb0slwow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Using a numbered exit with BGS's for a signalized intersection? :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on September 16, 2015, 08:19:19 PM
I see that I am a bit late to the odd-END-route signs in this thread. Louisiana almost never signs the end of a state highway. Almost (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.668522,-90.109112,3a,75y,259.29h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfBDBiN3qLN5xfevk24ZhgQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1). (Bonus: They replaced the trailblazer at some point, but not the END plaque which may very well be the only one in the state.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 17, 2015, 06:06:25 AM
Quote from: jbnv on September 16, 2015, 08:19:19 PM
I see that I am a bit late to the odd-END-route signs in this thread. Louisiana almost never signs the end of a state highway. Almost (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.668522,-90.109112,3a,75y,259.29h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfBDBiN3qLN5xfevk24ZhgQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1). (Bonus: They replaced the trailblazer at some point, but not the END plaque which may very well be the only one in the state.)

LA 806 in Claiborne Parish has signs with BEGIN & END banners at the end of it. GSV doesn't show them in their old pics, but I saw them 1st hand just a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 17, 2015, 08:08:09 AM
Looks like a hand-drawn vertical clearance sign in Atlanta: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7381554,-84.4128466,3a,75y,126.71h,95.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slk1I60BGbSCPoA4WP6hTkQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on September 17, 2015, 08:30:40 PM
Duh.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6980488,-117.145223,3a,75y,193.43h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slgTooS1_dx77T-QRlvhorg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 17, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
Two unique signs I spotted today, both on Joint-Base Lewis-McChord (though more accurately, the Fort Lewis section):

I suppose the first one isn't too unique given that Washington has plenty of uni-signs, but they're not usually in this style.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfCm8Mvl.png&hash=07ac729db3ebfbe6a68490911397742b2a7787e7)(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCrw8l0z.jpg&hash=14cc242dd8f97be67fdb55bb9b3639f02f436d44)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 17, 2015, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 17, 2015, 08:30:40 PM
Duh.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6980488,-117.145223,3a,75y,193.43h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slgTooS1_dx77T-QRlvhorg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I'm sure there was a number in that small VMS once. Maybe some lanes were closed during a certain time of day or something.

Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
Two unique signs I spotted today, both on Joint-Base Lewis-McChord (though more accurately, the Fort Lewis section):

I suppose the first one isn't too unique given that Washington has plenty of uni-signs, but they're not usually in this style.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfCm8Mvl.png&hash=07ac729db3ebfbe6a68490911397742b2a7787e7)

I'm a little surprised that the '5' isn't in Helvetica like the directional tabs are, considering that is a unisign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on September 18, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2015, 09:08:46 PM
Two unique signs I spotted today, both on Joint-Base Lewis-McChord (though more accurately, the Fort Lewis section):

I suppose the first one isn't too unique given that Washington has plenty of uni-signs, but they're not usually in this style.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCrw8l0z.jpg&hash=14cc242dd8f97be67fdb55bb9b3639f02f436d44)

Nutmeg zone?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 19, 2015, 12:49:55 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.bclocalnews.com%2Fimages%2F89974tribunemly-new-signs-unveiled-DSC_1818.jpg&hash=a9686d964e180f2a443f57612a3e1fd4d1daaba1)

Spotted this in the news today. It looks like there is brown on the outside of the border.

http://www.wltribune.com/news/328232501.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2015, 01:08:10 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on September 19, 2015, 12:49:55 AM
Spotted this in the news today. It looks like there is brown on the outside of the border.

You can always rely on BC for consistent sign design. Wait, no...

Jokes aside, I'm sure the tribes designed the signs and BC supplied the font :-D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 21, 2015, 07:32:56 PM
This street sign here in Huntsville's missing the "Avenue" suffix on it:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/620/21422170230_f4509fb149.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yD1dSA)Clinton Avenue (https://flic.kr/p/yD1dSA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I'm not sure if this is a standard sign or not. Spotted outside of a Norfolk Southern trailer-office-thing in downtown Huntsville:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/648/21422359568_5283524524.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yD2ca3)Do Not Block Drive (https://flic.kr/p/yD2ca3) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This is just odd:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/611/20987556814_39e71b7d4a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xYAHrQ)Purple "No Thru Traffic" Sign (https://flic.kr/p/xYAHrQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 21, 2015, 07:46:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 21, 2015, 07:32:56 PM
This street sign here in Huntsville's missing the "Avenue" suffix on it:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/620/21422170230_f4509fb149.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yD1dSA)Clinton Avenue (https://flic.kr/p/yD1dSA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Some cities do not add the suffix at all. Can be confusing for 'street versus avenue' cities like New York.

Here in Winnipeg, there are a few street blades that are in mixed-case FHWA, even though the vast majority are in all-caps FHWA or Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 21, 2015, 08:00:05 PM
Found this neutered I-565 shield at the eastern end of I-565 recently:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5806/21423274809_3e434ba6a0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yD6Te4)Neutered I-565 Sheild (https://flic.kr/p/yD6Te4) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
There also used to be another one for westbound traffic, but that shield is currently MIA due to the construction going on there. However, I did spot another neutered I-565 shield on US 72 facing the I-565 overpass, so that makes three neutered interstate shields here in Huntsville, AL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 22, 2015, 05:18:30 PM
Pretty unique sign in Seattle. Where else in the US is a U-turn legal on red?

FWIW, this is a left turn onto a one-way. Montlake @ Hamlin:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEbBqUo1.png&hash=9ff7553bdbd948038edbca99d969d04f8661f3d6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ace10 on September 22, 2015, 05:28:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 22, 2015, 05:18:30 PM
Pretty unique sign in Seattle. Where else in the US is a U-turn legal on red?

FWIW, this is a left turn onto a one-way. Montlake @ Hamlin:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEbBqUo1.png&hash=9ff7553bdbd948038edbca99d969d04f8661f3d6)

While I was poking around Louisiana's statutes, I came across this gem (only relevant parts quoted, and emphasis mine):

RS 32:232 (http://legis.la.gov/Legis/Law.aspx?d=88198)
Quote
§232.  Traffic-control signals
(3)  Steady RED indication:
(c)  Except when a sign prohibits a turn, vehicular traffic facing any steady red signal may cautiously enter the intersection to turn right, or to turn left from a one-way street into a one-way street, or to U-turn at a signalized U-turn after stopping as required by Subparagraph (a) or Subparagraph (b) of this Paragraph. Such vehicular traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection.

So it looks like a U-turn on red is legal in Louisiana at "signalized U-turns", whatever that might actually mean. I didn't dig around the statutes for a definition, but I imagine if the signal's arrows are in the shape of an upside-down letter 'U" (I've seen these in a few places) or, at the very least, when there is a sign that reads something like "U-turn only", making such a signal a de-facto "signalized U-turn", I'd say the turn can be made on red. I imagine these would be used on roads that are designed with a lot of Michigan lefts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_left) and have these kinds of turns past intersections.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on September 22, 2015, 06:32:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 22, 2015, 05:18:30 PM
Pretty unique sign in Seattle. Where else in the US is a U-turn legal on red?

FWIW, this is a left turn onto a one-way. Montlake @ Hamlin:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEbBqUo1.png&hash=9ff7553bdbd948038edbca99d969d04f8661f3d6)

There are a handful of intersections in Seattle where it's legal to turn left on red from a two-way onto a two-way.  (However, Lake City Way @ 30th Ave is the only one I could recall the exact location of (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lake+City,+Seattle,+WA/@47.7176822,-122.2960965,3a,75y,346.44h,79.39t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2VZPaIk1iye-MviROWPALw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D2VZPaIk1iye-MviROWPALw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D209.33781%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x54901161f8a49a7b:0xb423f20c91b36576!6m1!1e1) off the top of my head.)  The sign here specifies "left turn" permitted, and doesn't mention U-turns, though I still wonder making a U on red would be legal here as well.  (Incoming traffic on 31st has a stop sign, not a signal.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 24, 2015, 04:09:09 PM
I think this has been posted here before, but if so, no big deal. Passed this today on Mountain Road in Albuquerque walking back to our hotel from Old Town. I noted the street had purple signs calling it "Bicycle Boulevard" and the 18-mph speed limit made a right turn onto another street when the purple signs did. So maybe the speed limit has something to do with cyclist traffic. As you can see, there was no bike lane.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FAA5FF418-CDAA-4E8C-9695-7AFA157EE589_zpsgay9quto.jpg&hash=4445effa356fdf9e51615b9d076b0474e598d8e4)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 24, 2015, 07:47:13 PM
Olympic Rings device used on a BGS - located outside Charlotte, NC on I-85.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/740/21651089751_390fa7ff55_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yZeuET)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 26, 2015, 02:49:03 PM
https://flic.kr/p/z6DEfm
I think this one here is interesting that the recommended exit speed limit should be 60 mph considering that is 5 mph higher than the previous National Speed Limit that was the max for over 2 decades.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: english si on September 26, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 24, 2015, 07:47:13 PMOlympic Rings device used on a BGS - located outside Charlotte, NC on I-85.
Don't let the IOC see - breach of copyright and all that!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 26, 2015, 05:45:28 PM
Note the "left turn only" sign. Can't say I recall seeing a BGS or LGS used in this particular fashion before, but I liked it. Passed it twice today on Old Route 66 in Albuquerque.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F94C99BCB-E10D-4261-89DE-308C2EAF322A_zpszuzlsqy1.jpg&hash=2561c92bdf96846f64524e92a8fae0eb2b297f78)


Speaking of Route 66, I had breakfast at a diner along there, the Route 66 Diner. Out front were some nice roadside nostalgia signs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F2FD187C7-2F05-45DA-9CE2-1BEA595BA3C3_zps1rknjnuq.jpg&hash=6d63ff43482c149e85dc2cbdd7cdc902a5f94ef6)

(In case it's unclear, it says "It would/be great/to stop/for a shake/66 Diner.")

Bit of an anachronism inside: 1950s-themed diner with a Darth Vader Pez dispenser. I suppose, however, in November 1955 George McFly was allegedly visited by Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan, so maybe it's not totally out of place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 01, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
YIELD sign that's still stuck in the 1950s(?) (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5008059,-70.8351374,3a,75y,341.1h,79.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC1xQ_oSWAX4AqCQSesieZw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Another one further up (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5012305,-70.8356263,3a,75y,292.86h,74.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNaoWDf-Kyq22gPfPZ2pGtg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Note: these signs have since been replaced with yellow YIELD signs, sans the RIGHT OF WAY text.  So now these signs are up to late 60s standards LOL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 01, 2015, 04:02:44 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FFB21FBB7-E87F-4C47-BF21-62F02EAD4E51_zpsa9k7q5te.jpg&hash=a0b8598f6de84b97f61495d23d39897392bae59d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 01, 2015, 06:46:35 PM
"But without the AC, I will overheat!"

I am sure I've seen that sign, but I don't remember where it is now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2015, 07:02:45 PM
I get the feeling that the sign serves little purpose these days. New cars don't really overheat, so far as I know (or at least not as often as they may have).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 01, 2015, 08:34:26 PM

Quote from: kkt on October 01, 2015, 06:46:35 PM
"But without the AC, I will overheat!"

I am sure I've seen that sign, but I don't remember where it is now.

Northbound I-17 somewhere north of Phoenix just before the first big uphill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on October 01, 2015, 08:38:16 PM
I-10 has a sign east of exit 146 (Dillon Road) near mile 149 that has this sign (the A/C-overheating sign).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 01, 2015, 09:37:14 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5184779,-80.4351279,3a,15y,58.41h,89.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5nIPkz3p2_jShbtC---n5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

As much as I love text-only signs, I would not know what the fuck Road 400 referred to if I saw this sign in real life.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on October 01, 2015, 09:53:10 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 01, 2015, 09:37:14 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5184779,-80.4351279,3a,15y,58.41h,89.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5nIPkz3p2_jShbtC---n5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

As much as I love text-only signs, I would not know what the fuck Road 400 referred to if I saw this sign in real life.

South Carolina had referred to secondary roads on BGSs in rural areas this way and had back to at least the early 1980s.  I haven't been on interstates all over SC lately but I believe they are replacing most (all?) those with road names instead of the number. 

For example: https://goo.gl/maps/vw6ia5NnBwH2 changed to https://goo.gl/maps/rgV2w2qoTfs

incidentally, the text US 15-301 was on the BGS here even before US 15-301 was moved onto I-95 in this area.

Mike
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 01, 2015, 11:58:18 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 01, 2015, 09:53:10 PM

South Carolina had referred to secondary roads on BGSs in rural areas this way and had back to at least the early 1980s.  I haven't been on interstates all over SC lately but I believe they are replacing most (all?) those with road names instead of the number. 


Utah has been doing the same thing, replacing signs which are simply named "Ranch (access) Exit" with at least what that specific area is referred to, not necessarily a road name.  I-70 "Ranch" exits have slowly been converted over the last 3-5 years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 02, 2015, 12:01:34 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 01, 2015, 08:34:26 PM

Quote from: kkt on October 01, 2015, 06:46:35 PM
"But without the AC, I will overheat!"

I am sure I've seen that sign, but I don't remember where it is now.

Northbound I-17 somewhere north of Phoenix just before the first big uphill.

Ah, about 35 years ago...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 02, 2015, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 01, 2015, 01:44:52 PM
YIELD sign that's still stuck in the 1950s(?) (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5008059,-70.8351374,3a,75y,341.1h,79.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC1xQ_oSWAX4AqCQSesieZw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Another one further up (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5012305,-70.8356263,3a,75y,292.86h,74.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNaoWDf-Kyq22gPfPZ2pGtg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Note: these signs have since been replaced with yellow YIELD signs, sans the RIGHT OF WAY text.  So now these signs are up to late 60s standards LOL.
IMO, those qualify for "best of". :clap:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 02, 2015, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2015, 07:02:45 PM
I get the feeling that the sign serves little purpose these days. New cars don't really overheat, so far as I know (or at least not as often as they may have).

Cars can still overheat...that will probably never change, so as long as miniature combustion chambers exist in inside of them!

Shutting off the A/C can reduce load on its compressor, which is driven by belt on a pulley. Depending on the design of cooling system, how many belt(s) and pulleys are used, the same belt might be used to drive the radiator fan motor, which cools the engine, and the alternator, which helps keep the electricity flowing throughout the vehicle. (Note: this is a simplistic view on the matter - there's numerous configurations of cooling/charging/drive-belt/accessory-belt/hybrid drivetrains out there, with all sorts of intricacies and special snowflakes that also abound.)

If your car is in fine working shape, it should have no trouble, with the A/C on. But driving something a few years old? Not too hot outside? Had cooling system, charging system, or drivability issues? ...I'd shut it off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 02, 2015, 03:33:59 PM
I saw a couple of overheated vehicles stopped just a couple of weeks ago.  Light pickup and a crossover, towing biggish trailers, hot day, uphill = overheat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 02, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Ace10 on September 22, 2015, 05:28:26 PM
I imagine these would be used on roads that are designed with a lot of Michigan lefts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_left) and have these kinds of turns past intersections.

There are no signs like that at any Michigan Left that I have seen in Michigan.  Instead, it's treated as a left turn, and therefore, you can turn left on red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 02, 2015, 05:57:17 PM
Manhattan, Kansas has an oddball group of signs at the intersection of 4th and Pierre Sts.  They feature generic circular highway shields for K-177, instead of the regular sunflower ones on the traffic light arms.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 03, 2015, 12:50:58 PM
Wide attention-grabbing border on a speed limit sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.487586,-87.9647355,3a,75y,324.08h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGKkEUcpWOPtNj07dB153A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on October 03, 2015, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 03, 2015, 12:50:58 PM
Wide attention-grabbing border on a speed limit sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.487586,-87.9647355,3a,75y,324.08h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGKkEUcpWOPtNj07dB153A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Not a border. I think that's a red reflective piece of metal with a speed limit sign slapped on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on October 03, 2015, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 03, 2015, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 03, 2015, 12:50:58 PM
Wide attention-grabbing border on a speed limit sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.487586,-87.9647355,3a,75y,324.08h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGKkEUcpWOPtNj07dB153A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Not a border. I think that's a red reflective piece of metal with a speed limit sign slapped on.
semantics aside, it's a giant red attention-grabber for the speed limit sign - which is what I think Big John's original point of interest was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on October 04, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
Quote from: Big John on October 03, 2015, 12:50:58 PM
Wide attention-grabbing border on a speed limit sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.487586,-87.9647355,3a,75y,324.08h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGKkEUcpWOPtNj07dB153A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's similar to this: https://goo.gl/maps/V9QRy3kTK152
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 04, 2015, 01:25:38 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 04, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
Quote from: Big John on October 03, 2015, 12:50:58 PM
Wide attention-grabbing border on a speed limit sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.487586,-87.9647355,3a,75y,324.08h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGKkEUcpWOPtNj07dB153A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's similar to this: https://goo.gl/maps/V9QRy3kTK152

Not incredibly weird, since using a colored outer border on a sign is an MUTCD-approved method of enhancing sign conspicuity. However, the color is typically yellow (or black and yellow stripes). In the first example, it appears to have used the color that would normally be allowed for conspicuity flags.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 04, 2015, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: roadfro on October 04, 2015, 01:25:38 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 04, 2015, 12:16:50 AM
Quote from: Big John on October 03, 2015, 12:50:58 PM
Wide attention-grabbing border on a speed limit sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.487586,-87.9647355,3a,75y,324.08h,89.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGKkEUcpWOPtNj07dB153A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's similar to this: https://goo.gl/maps/V9QRy3kTK152

Not incredibly weird, since using a colored outer border on a sign is an MUTCD-approved method of enhancing sign conspicuity. However, the color is typically yellow (or black and yellow stripes). In the first example, it appears to have used the color that would normally be allowed for conspicuity flags.

It's not odd or unique at all. I've seen red-bordered speed limit signs in Texas. Virtually all are in places where a rural highway enters a town and the speed limit quickly drops from 70 to 55 and less.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on October 04, 2015, 12:22:20 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4521133,-72.4626924,3a,75y,286.52h,68.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA5wWrVpa-dYddjoX8myqTA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4521133,-72.4626924,3a,75y,286.52h,68.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA5wWrVpa-dYddjoX8myqTA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Here's one in East Haddam, for a swing bridge.

One nearby as an advisory for said swing bridge:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4519934,-72.4623249,3a,15y,236.84h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGjDRaS5xMI8qsfbPlt4TKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4519934,-72.4623249,3a,15y,236.84h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGjDRaS5xMI8qsfbPlt4TKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 04, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on October 04, 2015, 12:22:20 PM

One nearby as an advisory for said swing bridge:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4519934,-72.4623249,3a,15y,236.84h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGjDRaS5xMI8qsfbPlt4TKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4519934,-72.4623249,3a,15y,236.84h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGjDRaS5xMI8qsfbPlt4TKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

I find the "resident state trooper" sign to be very interesting also (rotate the image 180°). What exactly does that indicate?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 04, 2015, 05:50:48 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 01, 2015, 04:02:44 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FFB21FBB7-E87F-4C47-BF21-62F02EAD4E51_zpsa9k7q5te.jpg&hash=a0b8598f6de84b97f61495d23d39897392bae59d)
I first ran into AC overheat signs on our way back from the summit of Pikes Peak in '87. About 3/4s of the way down, there's a checkpoint for such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on October 04, 2015, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 04, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on October 04, 2015, 12:22:20 PM

One nearby as an advisory for said swing bridge:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4519934,-72.4623249,3a,15y,236.84h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGjDRaS5xMI8qsfbPlt4TKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4519934,-72.4623249,3a,15y,236.84h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGjDRaS5xMI8qsfbPlt4TKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

I find the "resident state trooper" sign to be very interesting also (rotate the image 180°). What exactly does that indicate?

From the Wikipedia article on the CT State Police:

QuoteThe Connecticut State Police is the primary law enforcement agency for approximately 1/2 of the state's 169 municipalities, and serves as the de facto highway patrol for the state's roadways and expressways. Connecticut does not have a county sheriff system that participates in routine law enforcement duties, as exists in most other states.

Approximately 40 of these communities are patrolled solely by State Troopers. The other communities have engaged in a cost-sharing contract agreement with the CSP known as a "Resident Trooper" which provides a trooper assigned to the community on a full-time basis. The title dates to a time when the Resident Trooper was an actual resident of the town, and had an office and official telephone located at his personal residence. Resident Troopers have for many decades not been required to be residents of the community they are assigned to, and offices have been moved to space provided by the host community. Costs, which include salary, equipment, and cruiser, are split between the town (70%) and state (30%). In towns that have a Resident Trooper program, the State Police will supervise and dispatch local constables with police powers (if any). Some towns with large Resident Trooper and constable programs will include State Police Sergeants in the Resident Trooper program to provide an appropriate level of supervision to full-time constable forces.

What's weird is, the town this in, East Haddam, does have a police department.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 04, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2015, 07:02:45 PM
I get the feeling that the sign serves little purpose these days. New cars don't really overheat, so far as I know (or at least not as often as they may have).

Depending on which of our cars I'm driving, I may turn off the AC on a big uphill grade to gain more power. But that's different from avoiding overheating!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on October 05, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
An unusual attempt (by Ontario standards anyways) at signing two closely spaced interchanges from the 35/115:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_30-39_images%2F35_second_exit.jpg&hash=526d1bb1522fef807af90de6d460076140afea2f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 05, 2015, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on October 05, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
An unusual attempt (by Ontario standards anyways) at signing two closely spaced interchanges from the 35/115:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_30-39_images%2F35_second_exit.jpg&hash=526d1bb1522fef807af90de6d460076140afea2f)

That sign is new too (it wasn't there in June 2015, look at the asphalt on the shoulder for the following link). https://goo.gl/maps/2sMdCdyw82G2

I like the green on white, looks unique. Though 'Second Exit' I feel would only be used if that second exit is close to the first, which in this scenario is the case. Mixed-case is also a bit interesting. Most times it's always written as 'NEXT EXIT' (in caps) or simply 'NEXT' at least here where I live.

Was it recently added to the Ontario Traffic Manual? I don't remember seeing that in previous versions, only the G416 and G417 signs in Book 8.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 05, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 05, 2015, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on October 05, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
An unusual attempt (by Ontario standards anyways) at signing two closely spaced interchanges from the 35/115:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_30-39_images%2F35_second_exit.jpg&hash=526d1bb1522fef807af90de6d460076140afea2f)

That sign is new too (it wasn't there in June 2015, look at the asphalt on the shoulder for the following link). https://goo.gl/maps/2sMdCdyw82G2

I like the green on white, looks unique. Though 'Second Exit' I feel would only be used if that second exit is close to the first, which in this scenario is the case. Mixed-case is also a bit interesting. Most times it's always written as 'NEXT EXIT' (in caps) or simply 'NEXT' at least here where I live.

Was it recently added to the Ontario Traffic Manual? I don't remember seeing that in previous versions.

Whatever it is, I like it. The Wilcox Rd exit has no number, so that's proper form (at least in America). It is quite strange looking at the 115 and seeing a bunch of interchanges that look like they belong in New York. There is exactly one "semi-normal" diamond I drive through between here and Toronto and that's only if I don't take the Lewiston-Queenston Bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 05, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
The advanced signs to I-470 and I-335 from westbound I-70 on the Kansas Turnpike always give me a chuckle when I drive through Topeka.

I-335 isn't for another couple miles off I-470. The rather minuscule I-335 shield seems to be an afterthought by KDOT on this sign bridge. Technically it should say TO I-335.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0309857,-95.5802354,3a,75y,280.53h,102.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4tAh_K44m5u9qUeQGvA-NQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on October 06, 2015, 08:06:43 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 05, 2015, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on October 05, 2015, 06:07:48 PM
An unusual attempt (by Ontario standards anyways) at signing two closely spaced interchanges from the 35/115:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_30-39_images%2F35_second_exit.jpg&hash=526d1bb1522fef807af90de6d460076140afea2f)

That sign is new too (it wasn't there in June 2015, look at the asphalt on the shoulder for the following link). https://goo.gl/maps/2sMdCdyw82G2

I like the green on white, looks unique. Though 'Second Exit' I feel would only be used if that second exit is close to the first, which in this scenario is the case. Mixed-case is also a bit interesting. Most times it's always written as 'NEXT EXIT' (in caps) or simply 'NEXT' at least here where I live.

Was it recently added to the Ontario Traffic Manual? I don't remember seeing that in previous versions, only the G416 and G417 signs in Book 8.

I am not sure if this sign style is reflected in the Ontario Traffic Manual.  I suspect this sign was designed to deliberately be a bit unique in order to make it stand out more to drivers.  The MTO tried a similar approach on this sign at the north end of Hurontario Street in Brampton to try and make Highway 10 stand out more as the through route:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_10-19_images%2F10_dv_28-8_north_Oct12.jpg&hash=bbcb4497f3ae54a659083adc681af799111f3898)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on October 06, 2015, 03:36:25 PM
GSV recently went through portions of Warren County, NJ and the US 611 sign that used to be on the off ramp from US 46 east to the Portland, PA bridge (this (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/nj_94/s611.jpg)) got replaced with a sign straight from US 98 in Florida pre-1994: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9240292,-75.0905912,3a,21.8y,179.37h,88.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLjLkz8VUiY-H2Qc3epYrlg!2e0!5s20150801T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 07, 2015, 11:14:14 AM
Central Kansas for years had the green US highway signs, specifically for 56. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules the anything-goes rule, but creativity points ought to be given here...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5833/21834793900_c66a1698d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN)P1210360 (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 07, 2015, 02:30:58 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules, ...

Construction signage has rules?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 07, 2015, 02:44:47 PM
Quote from: jbnv on October 07, 2015, 02:30:58 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules, ...

Construction signage has rules?
The one construction signage rule is that there are no rules!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules the anything-goes rule, ...

Fixed it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 07, 2015, 03:24:29 PM
Here's an strange one.

https://goo.gl/maps/NNSweSjjqJ62

This is the advance exit sign for K-153 Spur from southbound K-61. KDOT, for whatever reason, decided to outline the sunflower in black.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on October 07, 2015, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules the anything-goes rule, but creativity points ought to be given here...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5833/21834793900_c66a1698d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN)P1210360 (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Ew. No. NO. Make it stop, get it away from all of us! This sign is a disgrace to everyone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on October 07, 2015, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules the anything-goes rule, but creativity points ought to be given here...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5833/21834793900_c66a1698d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN)P1210360 (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

It's almost......cute. I can't believe I'm saying it. Like, they tried and failed so hard, it's cute.  :-o
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 07, 2015, 05:37:02 PM
So there's no regulation beyond the color (for construction signage)? I saw some Clearview construction warning signs about a year ago in Seattle. At the time, I assumed they were design errors, but this is not necessarily the case?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 07, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
They should follow the MUTCD, but given its temporary nature, that doesn't always happen. There is plenty of Clearview construction signs in Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 07, 2015, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 07, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
There is plenty of Clearview construction signs in Philadelphia.

Just to be clear (...), this is what I mean:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBLMrIUe.png&hash=f1a2a4799d32133d6949d3347eb6928f4cc622c9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 07, 2015, 11:20:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2015, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 07, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
There is plenty of Clearview construction signs in Philadelphia.

Just to be clear (...), this is what I mean:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBLMrIUe.png&hash=f1a2a4799d32133d6949d3347eb6928f4cc622c9)

I'd take Clearview any day over Helvetica (which is often seen here in construction zones).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on October 08, 2015, 08:21:03 AM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on October 06, 2015, 08:06:43 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 05, 2015, 10:57:40 PM

That sign is new too (it wasn't there in June 2015, look at the asphalt on the shoulder for the following link). https://goo.gl/maps/2sMdCdyw82G2

I like the green on white, looks unique. Though 'Second Exit' I feel would only be used if that second exit is close to the first, which in this scenario is the case. Mixed-case is also a bit interesting. Most times it's always written as 'NEXT EXIT' (in caps) or simply 'NEXT' at least here where I live.

Was it recently added to the Ontario Traffic Manual? I don't remember seeing that in previous versions, only the G416 and G417 signs in Book 8.

I am not sure if this sign style is reflected in the Ontario Traffic Manual.  I suspect this sign was designed to deliberately be a bit unique in order to make it stand out more to drivers.  The MTO tried a similar approach on this sign at the north end of Hurontario Street in Brampton to try and make Highway 10 stand out more as the through route:

1. Nope, not in the OTM, it's a custom one-off
2. Yes, deliberately non-standard as it's a bit of a unique situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 09, 2015, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2015, 05:37:02 PM
So there's no regulation beyond the color (for construction signage)? I saw some Clearview construction warning signs about a year ago in Seattle. At the time, I assumed they were design errors, but this is not necessarily the case?

The MUTCD governs construction signage, which basically has the same design standards as normal signs--for warning signs, this also means using orange instead of yellow for warnings. Language that governs text appearance and symbol design for normal signs also applies to construction signs. Hence, Clearview lettering on construction signs are design errors.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 09, 2015, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 09, 2015, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2015, 05:37:02 PM
So there's no regulation beyond the color (for construction signage)? I saw some Clearview construction warning signs about a year ago in Seattle. At the time, I assumed they were design errors, but this is not necessarily the case?

The MUTCD governs construction signage, which basically has the same design standards as normal signs--for warning signs, this also means using orange instead of yellow for warnings. Language that governs text appearance and symbol design for normal signs also applies to construction signs. Hence, Clearview lettering on construction signs are design errors.

Thank you for the clarification. I assumed there was regulation -- glad to see I'm correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 11, 2015, 10:36:13 AM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on October 07, 2015, 03:49:27 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on October 07, 2015, 02:01:59 PM
I know construction signage plays by its own rules the anything-goes rule, but creativity points ought to be given here...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5833/21834793900_c66a1698d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN)P1210360 (https://flic.kr/p/zgt2vN) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr

It's almost......cute. I can't believe I'm saying it. Like, they tried and failed so hard, it's cute.  :-o

A few years ago, someone posted a construction route sign for Ohio with numerals made from electrical tape.

ah, here we go:

Quote from: KillerTux on June 21, 2011, 08:07:41 PM
Not my pic but it has to be here..
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi184.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx182%2Fbusman_49%2Fmisc%2520junk%2Fdownsized_0618011017.jpg&hash=95543cd4d87576603b61a988032027fc89f9a347)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 12, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFCdKzKH.jpg&hash=c722c6ff8fa464089c7df98bc50fdefada4a27ff)

On I-66 eastbound.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 12, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 12, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFCdKzKH.jpg&hash=c722c6ff8fa464089c7df98bc50fdefada4a27ff)

On I-66 eastbound.

Yuck! Unfortunately, this font has appeared elsewhere...

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3558/3416146243_3637bff9bf_z.jpg)

It seems to be a VDOT Fredericksburg Region thing...although this is in Fauquier County in the Culpeper Region. I guess it's contagious.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2015, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 12, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 12, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFCdKzKH.jpg&hash=c722c6ff8fa464089c7df98bc50fdefada4a27ff)

On I-66 eastbound.

Yuck! Unfortunately, this font has appeared elsewhere...

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3558/3416146243_3637bff9bf_z.jpg)

It seems to be a VDOT Fredericksburg Region thing...although this is in Fauquier County in the Culpeper Region. I guess it's contagious.

Not ugly enough to be Helvetica. I'd put my money on Arial.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 12, 2015, 09:54:41 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on October 06, 2015, 08:06:43 AM
I am not sure if this sign style is reflected in the Ontario Traffic Manual.  I suspect this sign was designed to deliberately be a bit unique in order to make it stand out more to drivers.  The MTO tried a similar approach on this sign at the north end of Hurontario Street in Brampton to try and make Highway 10 stand out more as the through route:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_10-19_images%2F10_dv_28-8_north_Oct12.jpg&hash=bbcb4497f3ae54a659083adc681af799111f3898)
In the USA, that sign would indicate that "Valleywood Boulevard" was some kind of park road or maybe a historic district.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 12, 2015, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2015, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 12, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 12, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFCdKzKH.jpg&hash=c722c6ff8fa464089c7df98bc50fdefada4a27ff)

On I-66 eastbound.

Yuck! Unfortunately, this font has appeared elsewhere...

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3558/3416146243_3637bff9bf_z.jpg)

It seems to be a VDOT Fredericksburg Region thing...although this is in Fauquier County in the Culpeper Region. I guess it's contagious.

Not ugly enough to be Helvetica. I'd put my money on Arial.
The tail on the 1 in 17 confirms it is Arial. (The bottom of the tail is parallel to the top of the tail rather than horizontal.) and the 3 has the thinner stroke weight of Arial.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SD Mapman on October 13, 2015, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 12, 2015, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2015, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 12, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 12, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
picture

On I-66 eastbound.

Yuck! Unfortunately, this font has appeared elsewhere...

picture

It seems to be a VDOT Fredericksburg Region thing...although this is in Fauquier County in the Culpeper Region. I guess it's contagious.

Not ugly enough to be Helvetica. I'd put my money on Arial.
The tail on the 1 in 17 confirms it is Arial. (The bottom of the tail is parallel to the top of the tail rather than horizontal.) and the 3 has the thinner stroke weight of Arial.
Speaking of ugly, here's one from KC: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
The airport needs to get its act together.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 13, 2015, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 13, 2015, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: Big John on October 12, 2015, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 12, 2015, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 12, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 12, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
picture

On I-66 eastbound.

Yuck! Unfortunately, this font has appeared elsewhere...

picture

It seems to be a VDOT Fredericksburg Region thing...although this is in Fauquier County in the Culpeper Region. I guess it's contagious.

Not ugly enough to be Helvetica. I'd put my money on Arial.
The tail on the 1 in 17 confirms it is Arial. (The bottom of the tail is parallel to the top of the tail rather than horizontal.) and the 3 has the thinner stroke weight of Arial.
Speaking of ugly, here's one from KC: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
The airport needs to get its act together.

Not standard, but far from ugly. I've seen airport signage with the most ridiculous fonts. That sign, although the strokes are thin, is pretty well spaced and easy to read IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 13, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 13, 2015, 10:22:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Not standard, but far from ugly. I've seen airport signage with the most ridiculous fonts. That sign, although the strokes are thin, is pretty well spaced and easy to read IMO.

I agree with the legibility on the BGS, but that little afterthought sign below it is way on the other end of the (il-)legibility spectrum.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 13, 2015, 11:26:31 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on October 13, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 13, 2015, 10:22:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Not standard, but far from ugly. I've seen airport signage with the most ridiculous fonts. That sign, although the strokes are thin, is pretty well spaced and easy to read IMO.

I agree with the legibility on the BGS, but that little afterthought sign below it is way on the other end of the (il-)legibility spectrum.

I thought about that too. The bottom sign could be redone in a better way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 14, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 13, 2015, 09:47:52 PM
Speaking of ugly, here's one from KC: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3265151,-94.7131925,3a,34.6y,141.2h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTwkwHKnhbTys7qF-9X4aIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
The airport needs to get its act together.

Compared to most airports' choices for fonts, that's not half-bad. Airport authorities almost always use some sort of weird font; they can't all be Milwaukee (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9471284,-87.9068254,3a,24.1y,76.4h,99.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Du4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.69305%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656).

Decent spacing saves it, and you're not going all that fast around MCI's airport grounds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 14, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 14, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Compared to most airports' choices for fonts, that's not half-bad. Airport authorities almost always use some sort of weird font; they can't all be Milwaukee (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9471284,-87.9068254,3a,24.1y,76.4h,99.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Du4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.69305%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656).

Never seen button-copy airport signage before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 14, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
Cross-quote from another thread. The unique/odd/interesting sign is the one on the side street indicating correct turning procedure.

Quote from: 1995hoo on October 12, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
Northbound US-1 near Melbourne, Florida, has a continuous green for the two right lanes and no barrier for the left turns. Seems to work OK there, but I wouldn't want to see it tried in more urban areas without some sort of barrier because this design relies on the idea that people making lefts ONTO Route 1 will turn into the correct lane. That's not a premise on which I'd especially want to rely, given how often I see people turning into the wrong lanes in dual-turn situations and the like (even when there's a car in the adjacent lane).

Advance sign advising two right lanes have continuous green:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.091486,-80.608913,3a,66.8y,15.52h,82.55t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjuZDcuocgWHJczWkTcdcYA!2e0

Intersection itself:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.09317,-80.609807,3a,66.8y,352.88h,82.59t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1siymh4sBTnbCwdPpL00bGCw!2e0

Warning sign on the other street intended to make sure people turn into the correct lane:
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.09344,-80.611085,3a,66.8y,97.5h,84.23t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXhpp6kwCm2xd7fjhza2utQ!2e0

As a practical matter, there would seem to be little reason to want to go straight out of the one lane that doesn't get the continuous green, unless perhaps you know the light cycle so well that you know it won't turn before you get there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 14, 2015, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 14, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 14, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Compared to most airports' choices for fonts, that's not half-bad. Airport authorities almost always use some sort of weird font; they can't all be Milwaukee (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9471284,-87.9068254,3a,24.1y,76.4h,99.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Du4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.69305%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656).

Never seen button-copy airport signage before.

CLE -- Cleveland Hopkins Airport -- used to have some button-copy white on an orange-red background near the entrance and exit ramps to/from SR-237.  Those have been gone for well over a decade.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 15, 2015, 12:53:39 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 14, 2015, 02:28:51 PM
Compared to most airports' choices for fonts, that's not half-bad. Airport authorities almost always use some sort of weird font; they can't all be Milwaukee (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9471284,-87.9068254,3a,24.1y,76.4h,99.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Du4yiDrIqGujge1Ryy-76qA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.69305%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656).

They all really should be like Milwaukee...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 16, 2015, 06:08:45 AM
Very European-esque signs in this roundabout/circle in Chester, MD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9786438,-76.289187,3a,43.8y,293.48h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFexcwIW2P2iBEcXs-5kprQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on October 16, 2015, 07:19:13 PM
Nice find Zeffy!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 16, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 16, 2015, 06:08:45 AM
Very European-esque signs in this roundabout/circle in Chester, MD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9786438,-76.289187,3a,43.8y,293.48h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFexcwIW2P2iBEcXs-5kprQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Maryland had those in several places. There used to be a few at the two roundabouts near the Naylor Road Metrorail station, but they were replaced with US-style signs. I kind of liked them. No reason to reinvent good signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on October 16, 2015, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 16, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 16, 2015, 06:08:45 AM
Very European-esque signs in this roundabout/circle in Chester, MD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9786438,-76.289187,3a,43.8y,293.48h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFexcwIW2P2iBEcXs-5kprQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Maryland had those in several places. There used to be a few at the two roundabouts near the Naylor Road Metrorail station, but they were replaced with US-style signs. I kind of liked them. No reason to reinvent good signage.
Here's a black and yellow variation I saw a month ago on MD 165 at MD 24 that has been there back to at least 2008...

https://goo.gl/maps/LXtsUA9dxd42

This reminded me that on that same ride I also saw a white on blue circle arrow for an I-95 shield on NJ 3 at the NJ Tpk:

https://goo.gl/maps/w9dtVaEVWz82

Mike


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: luokou on October 17, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
It's not often you see Series C numerals for route shields in California. Bonus points for using the 42" x 36" Interstate shield shape rather than the typical 45" x 38".

https://goo.gl/maps/Smq8JJZhKqP2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on October 22, 2015, 03:51:13 AM
Found this on the AARoads Facebook page about Sacramento.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F10%2F22%2Fba8385b8bac04ec795cc090c3ae9b0ef.jpg&hash=d4f3b6d1455bd2f00f5d60718d504e99f97c6f16)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 22, 2015, 10:17:27 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Hji7r937ccJ2

This little oddball of a sign.  Being on wrong side of the street, and the narrow 435 shield. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on October 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: luokou on October 17, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
It's not often you see Series C numerals for route shields in California. Bonus points for using the 36" x 42" Interstate shield shape rather than the typical 38" x 45".

https://goo.gl/maps/Smq8JJZhKqP2

Dunno why more states don't do that on 3 digit shields. Series B isn't necessary for that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 22, 2015, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on October 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: luokou on October 17, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
It's not often you see Series C numerals for route shields in California. Bonus points for using the 36" x 42" Interstate shield shape rather than the typical 38" x 45".

https://goo.gl/maps/Smq8JJZhKqP2

Dunno why more states don't do that on 3 digit shields. Series B isn't necessary for that.

Funny you say that, because most states I frequent use C or D. Ohio loves their Series B, but a lot of the Northeast used Series D until very recently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 22, 2015, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on October 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: luokou on October 17, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
It's not often you see Series C numerals for route shields in California. Bonus points for using the 36" x 42" Interstate shield shape rather than the typical 38" x 45".

https://goo.gl/maps/Smq8JJZhKqP2

Dunno why more states don't do that on 3 digit shields. Series B isn't necessary for that.
Kansas usually uses Series C on newer Interstate shields, B on older ones. B on Interstate shields just looks out-dated to me.   When KDOT does use B for Interstate shields, it's typically on 3-digit ones.

KDOT uses B or C on US or Sunflower shields.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 22, 2015, 05:19:57 PM
I still think Series C looks silly on 3DI's -- I'd opt for Series D any day over C or B.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Buffaboy on October 22, 2015, 05:51:51 PM
I think I'll throw in the Big Dig "BGSs:"

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3469985,-71.0559345,3a,75y,267.26h,83.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjzjhHATYn4tmB9NQbNDw9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.347568,-71.0529475,3a,41.3y,263.38h,99.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szzkNgiAbHlgmh-W7PCY-pg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3483847,-71.0485752,3a,42.5y,250.28h,84.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5GQq2kD-tabwcK8aAcRPIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The Big Dig is on my wishlist of roads to visit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on October 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
While playing GeoGuessr yesterday, I came across the intersection of routes KK and K (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.235132,-91.645792,3a,29.6y,19.41h,87.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4-a8aOVQYocGlY4GD_xj9Q!2e0).  I would think they would have named at least one of them differently.

Here in Auburn, there's this sign that I've never seen anywhere else.  There's an opposing leading left at the intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.932386,-76.564882,3a,45.3y,64.76h,88.82t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sb0eq7k3NjNdMGNk1dyHNFA!2e0).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FWait%2520For%2520Green%2520Sign%2520-%2520Loop%2520Road%2C%2520Auburn.jpeg&hash=4c28d882367900742d09f7e8245770d8b91736f5)

When the expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse opened and was renamed Destiny USA, they made a mock-up of one of the new BGSes that were made:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FDestiny%2520USA%2520Drive%2520Mock%2520Sign.jpeg&hash=d0269665bf68ed5b6d0b9322372ea85c3bc3a617)
I went up to the sign for a closer look, and it appeared to be MUTCD compliant.  Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.073913,-76.171602,3a,55.4y,137.09h,101.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sP-DR2Q49LH2uVlbx3TiRUg!2e0) the actual sign in Street View.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Buffaboy on October 22, 2015, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
When the expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse opened and was renamed Destiny USA, they made a mock-up of one of the new BGSes that were made:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FDestiny%2520USA%2520Drive%2520Mock%2520Sign.jpeg&hash=d0269665bf68ed5b6d0b9322372ea85c3bc3a617)
I went up to the sign for a closer look, and it appeared to be MUTCD compliant.  Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.073913,-76.171602,3a,55.4y,137.09h,101.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sP-DR2Q49LH2uVlbx3TiRUg!2e0) the actual sign in Street View.

Is it still there?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on October 22, 2015, 09:27:45 PM
I didn't see it when I was there a month ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 23, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
When the expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse opened and was renamed Destiny USA, they made a mock-up of one of the new BGSes that were made:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FDestiny%2520USA%2520Drive%2520Mock%2520Sign.jpeg&hash=d0269665bf68ed5b6d0b9322372ea85c3bc3a617)
I went up to the sign for a closer look, and it appeared to be MUTCD compliant.  Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.073913,-76.171602,3a,55.4y,137.09h,101.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sP-DR2Q49LH2uVlbx3TiRUg!2e0) the actual sign in Street View.
Which font is on that 690 shield? Looks like something you'd see on Interstate shields on Canadian highways immediately before ports of entry.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 23, 2015, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: cappicard on October 23, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
When the expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse opened and was renamed Destiny USA, they made a mock-up of one of the new BGSes that were made:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FDestiny%2520USA%2520Drive%2520Mock%2520Sign.jpeg&hash=d0269665bf68ed5b6d0b9322372ea85c3bc3a617)
I went up to the sign for a closer look, and it appeared to be MUTCD compliant.  Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.073913,-76.171602,3a,55.4y,137.09h,101.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sP-DR2Q49LH2uVlbx3TiRUg!2e0) the actual sign in Street View.
Which font is on that 690 shield? Looks like something you'd see on Interstate shields on New Brunswick highways immediately before ports of entry.

FTFY. Most provinces know enough to use FHWA for Interstate shields (even BC and MB use it even though they both use different fonts for their own shields). Quebec likes series EM for Interstate and US highway shields though.

The font is likely Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on October 24, 2015, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 23, 2015, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: cappicard on October 23, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
When the expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse opened and was renamed Destiny USA, they made a mock-up of one of the new BGSes that were made:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FDestiny%2520USA%2520Drive%2520Mock%2520Sign.jpeg&hash=d0269665bf68ed5b6d0b9322372ea85c3bc3a617)
I went up to the sign for a closer look, and it appeared to be MUTCD compliant.  Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.073913,-76.171602,3a,55.4y,137.09h,101.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sP-DR2Q49LH2uVlbx3TiRUg!2e0) the actual sign in Street View.
Which font is on that 690 shield? Looks like something you'd see on Interstate shields on New Brunswick highways immediately before ports of entry.

FTFY. Most provinces know enough to use FHWA for Interstate shields (even BC and MB use it even though they both use different fonts for their own shields). Quebec likes series EM for Interstate and US highway shields though.

The font is likely Helvetica.
Not quite, but I think it could be Arial.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on October 24, 2015, 04:05:23 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 22, 2015, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on October 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: luokou on October 17, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
It's not often you see Series C numerals for route shields in California. Bonus points for using the 36" x 42" Interstate shield shape rather than the typical 38" x 45".

https://goo.gl/maps/Smq8JJZhKqP2

Dunno why more states don't do that on 3 digit shields. Series B isn't necessary for that.

Funny you say that, because most states I frequent use C or D. Ohio loves their Series B, but a lot of the Northeast used Series D until very recently.

Until the end of button copy, Ohio loved its D-modified for 3DI shields on BGS.  Once the change to reflective signs came, they went totally bonkers.  Series B was common but is less so now.  Some newer signage (unfortunately usually with Clearview everywhere else) uses D for the numerals, while there is some C as well.  The latest signs I have seen going up haven't featured B, fortunately.

These were some good-looking Ohio 3DI shields....
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Foh%2Fi-77%2Fn122b.jpg&hash=9edbd82a8abc39d4bfb237e7ef52b5ef4f8560df)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Foh%2Fi-77%2Fn161.jpg&hash=c8b13462cc7ed22a4a5b95f8f1afcb05378681fe)

For contrast, here is a 3DI shield with proper D-modified (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/i-71/n247_2.jpg) and here is one with the numerals 9 and 0 accidentally the wrong series. (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/oh/i-71/n247.jpg)  You can see it in the shape of the 9 as well as the larger size and squeezing into the shield.

Indiana used to be fairly well-behaved on BGSs with not using series B for 3DIs, but a rash of series B 465s and 865s appeared when the latter route came into existence, and not all have disappeared yet. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on October 25, 2015, 03:19:16 PM
Quote from: national highway 1 on October 24, 2015, 07:51:15 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 23, 2015, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: cappicard on October 23, 2015, 12:28:18 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 22, 2015, 08:12:38 PM
When the expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse opened and was renamed Destiny USA, they made a mock-up of one of the new BGSes that were made:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmjr1990.1apps.com%2FAARoads%2FDestiny%2520USA%2520Drive%2520Mock%2520Sign.jpeg&hash=d0269665bf68ed5b6d0b9322372ea85c3bc3a617)
I went up to the sign for a closer look, and it appeared to be MUTCD compliant.  Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.073913,-76.171602,3a,55.4y,137.09h,101.45t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sP-DR2Q49LH2uVlbx3TiRUg!2e0) the actual sign in Street View.
Which font is on that 690 shield? Looks like something you'd see on Interstate shields on New Brunswick highways immediately before ports of entry.

FTFY. Most provinces know enough to use FHWA for Interstate shields (even BC and MB use it even though they both use different fonts for their own shields). Quebec likes series EM for Interstate and US highway shields though.

The font is likely Helvetica.
Not quite, but I think it could be Arial.

Looks familiar for a lot of the I-384 signs in CT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 25, 2015, 08:17:47 PM
Quote from: national highway 1 on October 22, 2015, 03:51:13 AM
Found this on the AARoads Facebook page about Sacramento.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F10%2F22%2Fba8385b8bac04ec795cc090c3ae9b0ef.jpg&hash=d4f3b6d1455bd2f00f5d60718d504e99f97c6f16)

For what seems to be a private installation, the shields don't look terrible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 25, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Anyone know what this means? Is it vandalism? I've never seen this before.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/19963155364_4fab8e8717_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wq5ozS)
An Odd Yield Sign, Banff AB (https://flic.kr/p/wq5ozS) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on October 25, 2015, 11:00:19 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 25, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Anyone know what this means? Is it vandalism? I've never seen this before.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/19963155364_4fab8e8717_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wq5ozS)
An Odd Yield Sign, Banff AB (https://flic.kr/p/wq5ozS) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr
Beware of open scissors coming at you.


Yeah it's vandalized. It's a sticker cause I can faintly tell it's beginning to peel off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SteveG1988 on October 25, 2015, 11:19:44 PM
Two scissors means yield to same sex females enjoying themselves.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on October 26, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 25, 2015, 11:00:19 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on October 25, 2015, 10:59:22 PM
Anyone know what this means? Is it vandalism? I've never seen this before.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/19963155364_4fab8e8717_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wq5ozS)
An Odd Yield Sign, Banff AB (https://flic.kr/p/wq5ozS) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr
Beware of open scissors coming at you.


Yeah it's vandalized. It's a sticker cause I can faintly tell it's beginning to peel off.
A pair of scissors is a bridge too far. ;)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on November 01, 2015, 10:35:21 PM
Near the Eola Road interchange with I-88 in DuPage County, IL, there are a couple assemblies using blue backgrounds:
Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7995265,-88.2404198,3a,33.4y,236.16h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGpbXVsdvAdjJblrmwXkQ1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8081849,-88.2388674,3a,75y,153.72h,78.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQkMDdlyCZblgqhkOWNCk1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 01, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on November 01, 2015, 10:35:21 PM
Near the Eola Road interchange with I-88 in DuPage County, IL, there are a couple assemblies using blue backgrounds:
Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7995265,-88.2404198,3a,33.4y,236.16h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGpbXVsdvAdjJblrmwXkQ1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8081849,-88.2388674,3a,75y,153.72h,78.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQkMDdlyCZblgqhkOWNCk1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Arrows look a bit undersized. Interesting for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 02, 2015, 03:16:55 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on November 01, 2015, 10:35:21 PM
Near the Eola Road interchange with I-88 in DuPage County, IL, there are a couple assemblies using blue backgrounds:
Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7995265,-88.2404198,3a,33.4y,236.16h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGpbXVsdvAdjJblrmwXkQ1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8081849,-88.2388674,3a,75y,153.72h,78.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQkMDdlyCZblgqhkOWNCk1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Illinois on: "how to use Clearview":

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2Rt52.gif&hash=98f1ffd6d89994792f08fe8eb166ee2f9c0c0372)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2015, 09:06:04 AM
A couple from Chelmsford, Mass.:

Taking the famous "cut-corner" Massachusetts paddle sign in a, um, new direction:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/590/22280495132_ff4c4d9e3d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zWRmXN)


While we're on reorienting signs, this type of thing always makes me momentarily tilt my head and ask, "is it me?":

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/686/22105679128_a88e0e4ea2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zFpofL)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 25, 2015, 11:19:44 PM
Two scissors means yield to same sex females enjoying themselves.

What would the sign be for different sex females?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on November 03, 2015, 02:49:33 PM
What font is this? Spotted south of Jonesboro, AR about 3 weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc2.staticflickr.com%2F6%2F5660%2F22108216970_3968570290_h.jpg&hash=f37707bbec55b31db226bbf21ec646e67a90eec9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on November 04, 2015, 08:08:38 AM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on November 03, 2015, 02:49:33 PM
What font is this? Spotted south of Jonesboro, AR about 3 weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc2.staticflickr.com%2F6%2F5660%2F22108216970_3968570290_h.jpg&hash=f37707bbec55b31db226bbf21ec646e67a90eec9)

The white-on-green FUTURE is in Series D.  The "I" in "I-555" is either Series D or E but with serifs added on, by the looks of it, by hand. I'm willing to bet the 555 is in Series E but with some stretching or other manipulation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on November 04, 2015, 08:37:24 AM
The serifs almost give "I-555" the feel of Courier!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 04, 2015, 11:57:24 AM
I have seen many signs with a capital I, complete with serifs, just so it doesn't look like a one, hyphen, [number]. But those are weird looking fives.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on November 04, 2015, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on November 03, 2015, 02:49:33 PM
What font is this? Spotted south of Jonesboro, AR about 3 weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc2.staticflickr.com%2F6%2F5660%2F22108216970_3968570290_h.jpg&hash=f37707bbec55b31db226bbf21ec646e67a90eec9)

I think the Department of Redundancy Department just called.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on November 04, 2015, 04:31:44 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on November 03, 2015, 09:06:04 AM
While we're on reorienting signs, this type of thing always makes me momentarily tilt my head and ask, "is it me?":

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/686/22105679128_a88e0e4ea2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zFpofL)

No, it's not just you.  We had some deer crossing ahead signs oriented like that as well (a total of 4) near a forest preserve.  They stayed like that for about a week before being reoriented back to the normal position.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 08, 2015, 12:54:43 AM
Are signs like this still considered MUTCD-compliant?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Railroad_Bridge_over_Montauk_Highway;_Sayville_(LIRR_Locomotive).JPG

Because I haven't found white height warning signs in any of the recent editions.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: r-dub on November 08, 2015, 02:46:16 AM
Found this unusual clearance sign on a trip on Montana 200 just before the Idaho border...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frnrcoffeecafe.com%2Fimages%2FDSCF1050.jpg&hash=1dcd63f4da2dc4469fde9cd304412f26545a8efe)


And on US 89 in Montana this old find...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frnrcoffeecafe.com%2Fimages%2FDSCF1238.jpg&hash=2b8935cd48153194fa1f398ef49d06267170e807)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on November 10, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/U2FNmjXtaZ62

A not-so-common standard sign in Kansas: Straight ahead prohibited.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 10, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Maybe an afterthought? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.315712,-73.9799314,3a,15y,152.69h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJXND5dNtE4wcPpdgcj5y6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 10, 2015, 11:33:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on November 10, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Maybe an afterthought? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.315712,-73.9799314,3a,15y,152.69h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJXND5dNtE4wcPpdgcj5y6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 11, 2015, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 10, 2015, 11:33:50 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on November 10, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Maybe an afterthought? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.315712,-73.9799314,3a,15y,152.69h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJXND5dNtE4wcPpdgcj5y6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I don't get it.

Look closer at the NJ 36 shield and compare it to other signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on November 11, 2015, 04:56:11 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on November 10, 2015, 10:35:09 PM
Maybe an afterthought? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.315712,-73.9799314,3a,15y,152.69h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJXND5dNtE4wcPpdgcj5y6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That NJ-36 is unusual indeed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 11, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 08, 2015, 12:54:43 AM
Are signs like this still considered MUTCD-compliant?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Railroad_Bridge_over_Montauk_Highway;_Sayville_(LIRR_Locomotive).JPG

Because I haven't found white height warning signs in any of the recent editions.

No, it is not a MUTCD compliant sign, in color or layout.


Quote from: cappicard on November 10, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/U2FNmjXtaZ62

A not-so-common standard sign in Kansas: Straight ahead prohibited.

This sign was introduced in the 2009 national MUTCD. The use here is incorrect, however. The sign is intended to prohibit straight ahead movements, but at the location linked there is no roadway to go straight ahead to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on November 11, 2015, 10:38:18 PM
Yeah, the far left lane is a stretch to go straight. 


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: andy3175 on November 12, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 11, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Quote from: cappicard on November 10, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/U2FNmjXtaZ62

A not-so-common standard sign in Kansas: Straight ahead prohibited.

This sign was introduced in the 2009 national MUTCD. The use here is incorrect, however. The sign is intended to prohibit straight ahead movements, but at the location linked there is no roadway to go straight ahead to.

I've only seen this "no straight ahead arrow" sign used in one other place, in San Diego at Broadway Pier. I thought a DO NOT ENTER sign would have been sufficient. Does MUTCD now prefer the "no straight ahead arrow"?

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7157801,-117.1729514,3a,75y,273.14h,85.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqLXsgRxOr7o0zos7CJ5Zw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theFXexpert on November 12, 2015, 01:47:20 AM
The only time I have seen a no straight arrow was at this intersection in Sarasota, FL.

Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.3191593,-82.5297174,3a,49.2y,275.58h,88.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGLVr4ujr5X3SY9Sz5NIZaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.3191615,-82.5300522,3a,75y,91.49h,89.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seSmApmg_Qhg7duitYXdUqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 12, 2015, 02:56:24 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on November 12, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 11, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
Quote from: cappicard on November 10, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/U2FNmjXtaZ62

A not-so-common standard sign in Kansas: Straight ahead prohibited.

This sign was introduced in the 2009 national MUTCD. The use here is incorrect, however. The sign is intended to prohibit straight ahead movements, but at the location linked there is no roadway to go straight ahead to.

I've only seen this "no straight ahead arrow" sign used in one other place, in San Diego at Broadway Pier. I thought a DO NOT ENTER sign would have been sufficient. Does MUTCD now prefer the "no straight ahead arrow"?

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7157801,-117.1729514,3a,75y,273.14h,85.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snqLXsgRxOr7o0zos7CJ5Zw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

The "no straight through" sign is intended to be used in those cases where it is desired to prohibit through movements on a street, but turning movements from the cross street in that direction are still allowed. So if there is a no straight through sign in the westbound direction, traffic traveling west cannot continue, but vehicles traveling north and south can still turn westbound.

"Do not enter" is still required for prohibiting *all* movements from entering a restricted roadway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RaulMtz on November 12, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
Aren't all BGS in a gantry supposed to be the same height in California, regardless of the info shown?

https://goo.gl/maps/UtgUmbhEQpz
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on November 12, 2015, 10:24:08 AM
Quote from: MancoMtz on November 12, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
Aren't all BGS in a gantry supposed to be the same height in California, regardless of the info shown?

https://goo.gl/maps/UtgUmbhEQpz

They're supposed to be.  It also appears that the taller sign also exceeds the 120-inch height limit.

Assuming the letter "H" in Highland is 16 inches tall, I'm able to estimate that the larger sign is 140 inches tall which is significantly taller than 120-inch limit for overhead guide signs in California.  Oddly enough, I saw some plans for the I-680 Express Lanes through the San Ramon Valley that include signs that exceed the 120-inch limit.  These signs will primarily show toll rates for the express lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 10:02:57 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2-Images%2F190.jpg&hash=cab9939e83e2b543337008f826cc292aa3aa966b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 12, 2015, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 10:02:57 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2-Images%2F190.jpg&hash=cab9939e83e2b543337008f826cc292aa3aa966b)

Is that supposed to be US 29? It's unrecognizable as such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on November 13, 2015, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 10:02:57 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2-Images%2F190.jpg&hash=cab9939e83e2b543337008f826cc292aa3aa966b)

It's like they didn't even try...or asked a 3-year-old to draw a US route blank...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 13, 2015, 03:34:37 PM
Yes, that's somewhere between Charlottesville and Amherst.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on November 14, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 13, 2015, 03:17:20 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 12, 2015, 10:02:57 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2%2F2007_WV_VA_Day_2-Images%2F190.jpg&hash=cab9939e83e2b543337008f826cc292aa3aa966b)

It's like they didn't even try...or asked a 3-year-old to draw a US route blank...

I think that's more "Worst of" than "interesting".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 14, 2015, 07:14:19 PM
Well, this is subtitled "the good, the bad and the ugly," so I think this one fits two of those three categories.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 16, 2015, 08:23:14 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8716575,-77.1555565,3a,37.5y,212.43h,83.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDb7kPuCi56m7VRZut3nReg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like the way "X" is used for "Cross" in Bailey's Crossroads at the infamous Seven Corners near Falls Church, VA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2015, 11:16:55 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2015, 08:23:14 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8716575,-77.1555565,3a,37.5y,212.43h,83.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDb7kPuCi56m7VRZut3nReg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like the way "X" is used for "Cross" in Bailey's Crossroads at the infamous Seven Corners near Falls Church, VA.

This is fairly common in Virginia; Zion Crossroads gets the same treatment in most (but not all) places:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0700657,-78.186566,3a,30y,238.7h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ60bzImYDlDmoMqGH7PFeg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on November 17, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2015, 11:16:55 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2015, 08:23:14 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8716575,-77.1555565,3a,37.5y,212.43h,83.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDb7kPuCi56m7VRZut3nReg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like the way "X" is used for "Cross" in Bailey's Crossroads at the infamous Seven Corners near Falls Church, VA.

This is fairly common in Virginia; Zion Crossroads gets the same treatment in most (but not all) places:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0700657,-78.186566,3a,30y,238.7h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ60bzImYDlDmoMqGH7PFeg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I wonder how much unwanted attention that last town has received over the last decade.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on November 18, 2015, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: jbnv on November 17, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 17, 2015, 11:16:55 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2015, 08:23:14 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8716575,-77.1555565,3a,37.5y,212.43h,83.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDb7kPuCi56m7VRZut3nReg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like the way "X" is used for "Cross" in Bailey's Crossroads at the infamous Seven Corners near Falls Church, VA.

This is fairly common in Virginia; Zion Crossroads gets the same treatment in most (but not all) places:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0700657,-78.186566,3a,30y,238.7h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ60bzImYDlDmoMqGH7PFeg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I wonder how much unwanted attention that last town has received over the last decade.

Little to none, interestingly enough. It's been developing rather explosively into a more suburban area as people take advantage of it being roughly halfway between Charlottesville and Richmond. No one seems to be (publicly) bothered by its name.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on November 18, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
Some interesting signs recently posted to Reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/4OtWZRR.jpg)

(Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3tap83/found_in_toronto_when_a_new_road_sign_goes_up/))

(https://i.imgur.com/VWsDClU.jpg)

(Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3rqsg6/this_sign_has_a_topiary_outline/))

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtiOttmO.jpg&hash=afe414ce1b076f85d8dbc081e03330af3541dc34)

(Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3rsdzm/this_stop_sign_keeps_getting_shorter/))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 18, 2015, 10:03:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 18, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
Some interesting signs recently posted to Reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/4OtWZRR.jpg)

That sign is Ontario standard, except for the font, and it is circular, like so:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FScreenshot%25202015-11-18%252020.59.42_zpsxdg1coma.png&hash=4aaef6fa4672f3feb6ae9e07b8579c0631a5e520)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 20, 2015, 08:31:26 AM
I kind of find this one interesting as it has "Bedminster" and "Pluckemin" as the latter is part of the former.  Pluckemin is  not incorporated, but part of Bedminster Township.  The reason for this sign being set up like this is that the the exit serves all of Bedminster, but its Pluckemin community is the first place southbound place on US 202 & 206, and its township center is located north on US 202 after the two us routes split just shortly north of this interchange.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/584/23144844725_be19362eb8_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on November 22, 2015, 05:06:49 AM
From a recent trip to Japan, I saw a few interesting warning sign graphics showing the results of bad driving:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi96.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl200%2Fmrkf%2FP1040831a%2520-%2520Shin-Meishin%2520Expwy%2520warning%2520sign_zpsam9rnbfm.jpg&hash=f30160b3bdc48281ccb0dee4b6b187129347e2fe)
Beware of hitting something in the dark tunnel?  This was on the new Shin-Meishin Expressway outside Kyoto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin-Meishin_Expressway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin-Meishin_Expressway).  There were also some signs warning of a grade, depicting two cars rear-ending a truck, with similar impact graphics.


(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi96.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl200%2Fmrkf%2FP1040521a%2520-%2520Tokyo%2520congestion%2520sign%2520on%2520expwy%25206_zpsagzzqz3j.jpg&hash=18d1cdfbd24f41c2f88466eadc6da39cb4b302f2)
This sign assembly was on the route 6 expressway in Tokyo, with a sign in the lower left showing the consequences of tailgating.  The big sign is a congestion map (segments light up in yellow, orange, or red).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 22, 2015, 11:33:35 AM
This is a rather odd looking shield, IMO:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22844511279_98da953c1f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ANG6j8)I-24 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/ANG6j8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I also spotted these rather large logo signs up in Chattanooga, TN:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/695/22916889080_34dd8d202d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AV63Hf)Large Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/AV63Hf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5657/23186588096_a48ecdc59a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BjVjQh)Large Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/BjVjQh) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/598/22916888640_7928c83106.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AV63zE)Large Logo Sign (https://flic.kr/p/AV63zE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And here's some odd and unique signage from Tuscaloosa, AL:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5763/22585653473_205560f8a0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ApPnUv)Unlawful to Cut Corners (https://flic.kr/p/ApPnUv) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/751/22916933760_dccff381a6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AV6gZA)No Parking (https://flic.kr/p/AV6gZA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This probably isn't all that odd, but it's the first one I've seen like this:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5658/22844801579_fc2706cb81.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ANHzBi)No Vending (https://flic.kr/p/ANHzBi) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5785/22585739463_29868b0981.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ApPPt6)Unique Tuscaloosa, AL Signage (https://flic.kr/p/ApPPt6) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/740/22818675387_1c174f5907.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ALpFcH)Unique Tuscaloosa, AL Signage (https://flic.kr/p/ALpFcH) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5690/22584386134_804ed43618.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ApGTaQ)Unique Tuscaloosa, AL Signage (https://flic.kr/p/ApGTaQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5683/22585757433_2bff837284.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ApPUNV)Unique Tuscaloosa, AL Signage (https://flic.kr/p/ApPUNV) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

These AL 5 shields look like someone took a square and slapped the Mobile Bay area onto it:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5797/22844826299_0cc9407620.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ANHGXv)I-20/I-59/US 11/AL 5 (https://flic.kr/p/ANHGXv) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5650/22916962210_af2fbe85e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AV6qs7)I-20/I-59/US 11/AL 5 (https://flic.kr/p/AV6qs7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on November 22, 2015, 02:54:14 PM
Newly installed this week on Market St/OH 18 in Fairlawn, Ohio....

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12239672_10105715144306928_321174020574456126_n.jpg?oh=1984d18c90bacfcc23f2fea5259307a3&oe=56AE903C)

which replaced boring, off-spec green square text signs. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.129713,-81.61324,3a,36.8y,308.88h,87.05t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shWJKXhmfgbpAeEnTc5KL1g!2e0)  Win!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on November 24, 2015, 04:00:09 PM
Quote from: MarkF on November 22, 2015, 05:06:49 AM
From a recent trip to Japan, I saw a few interesting warning sign graphics showing the results of bad driving:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi96.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl200%2Fmrkf%2FP1040831a%2520-%2520Shin-Meishin%2520Expwy%2520warning%2520sign_zpsam9rnbfm.jpg&hash=f30160b3bdc48281ccb0dee4b6b187129347e2fe)
Beware of hitting something in the dark tunnel?  This was on the new Shin-Meishin Expressway outside Kyoto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin-Meishin_Expressway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin-Meishin_Expressway).  There were also some signs warning of a grade, depicting two cars rear-ending a truck, with similar impact graphics.

They really need a sign to tell them not to drive into the damn wall?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 24, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 24, 2015, 04:00:09 PM
Quote from: MarkF on November 22, 2015, 05:06:49 AM
From a recent trip to Japan, I saw a few interesting warning sign graphics showing the results of bad driving:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi96.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl200%2Fmrkf%2FP1040831a%2520-%2520Shin-Meishin%2520Expwy%2520warning%2520sign_zpsam9rnbfm.jpg&hash=f30160b3bdc48281ccb0dee4b6b187129347e2fe)
Beware of hitting something in the dark tunnel?  This was on the new Shin-Meishin Expressway outside Kyoto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin-Meishin_Expressway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin-Meishin_Expressway).  There were also some signs warning of a grade, depicting two cars rear-ending a truck, with similar impact graphics.

They really need a sign to tell them not to drive into the damn wall?

Maybe the lanes are narrow there or something.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on November 24, 2015, 08:23:08 PM
I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that the tunnel has a round roof.  The sign looks like it's trying to warn traffic that it might run out of overhead clearance at the far edge of the lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 24, 2015, 09:37:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 24, 2015, 04:00:09 PM
They really need a sign to tell them not to drive into the damn wall?

Driving while oriental?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.fjcdn.com%2Fcomments%2FParaprosdokian%2Btiger%2Bmaybe%2Bi%2Bdon%2Bt%2Beven%2Bknow%2B_057df5ab5c8bfe9482bdb55f5c27b0fe.png&hash=9ec4f5c36e459502f884a4ff02cc6321f8e288ea)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on November 25, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
Google translate shows it as Tunnel In on top, and Speed Note! on the bottom, so Don't speed in the tunnel?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on November 25, 2015, 02:39:03 AM
Forgot to add, the tunnel is long and it curves. The picture was taken near the lower right in this view:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9496107,136.0162856,4244m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 25, 2015, 06:19:16 AM
Maybe you should be driving on the tunnel wall, which is where the black road and yellow passing lines are located.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 28, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6824503,-90.6612002,3a,23.2y,170.94h,97.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sASHZ8Q3U_GAcHsipjMJgwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Maybe I'm just underestimating, but I didn't find any of these as "low clearances"... what's the average height of a standard 18 wheeler?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 28, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
^^ Anything under 16' is considered low clearance as a few taller trucks could cause impact.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 28, 2015, 10:41:03 PM
There's a warning sign for a low bridge on US Route 1 in the Darien/Norwalk stretch of I-95 in Connecticut.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 29, 2015, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: Big John on November 28, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
^^ Anything under 16' is considered low clearance as a few taller trucks could cause impact.

In most cases.  NJ generally doesn't post low-clearance signage when the clearance is greater than 14' 5".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on November 30, 2015, 06:43:56 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVArVfNVAAAddD3.jpg)
source (https://twitter.com/barbiereif/status/671084001075965952)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 30, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
I saw several such photos from the Oklahoma ice storm. Either that's a rare embossed sign (not likely) or it's a Photoshop job (very likely).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on November 30, 2015, 11:17:16 PM
I just don't get how it looks like the "ice" sign is placed overlapping the normal sign. Am I missing something here..?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on December 01, 2015, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 30, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
I saw several such photos from the Oklahoma ice storm. Either that's a rare embossed sign (not likely) or it's a Photoshop job (very likely).

There can be enough of a height difference between the layers of reflective material on a regular sign to create such a pattern in a coat of ice.  I don't see any reason to disbelieve this photo's authenticity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 01, 2015, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on December 01, 2015, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 30, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
I saw several such photos from the Oklahoma ice storm. Either that's a rare embossed sign (not likely) or it's a Photoshop job (very likely).

There can be enough of a height difference between the layers of reflective material on a regular sign to create such a pattern in a coat of ice.  I don't see any reason to disbelieve this photo's authenticity.
Often, regulatory signs are made by making a blank rectangle of white reflective sheeting, then applying the non-reflective black elements on top of that. (That is why you sometimes see the black peeling off of some signs in hotter climates.) There is a thickness to the black film that could cause what is seen on this photo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 01, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
If you can feel the difference with your finger, it's enough to see in the ice.  I don't see a reason to believe this is photoshopped, though I'm curious how it slid that way rather than stay in place or fall to the ground.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 01, 2015, 08:58:05 PM

Quote from: Zeffy on November 30, 2015, 11:17:16 PM
I just don't get how it looks like the "ice" sign is placed overlapping the normal sign. Am I missing something here..?

It has slid down from its own weight, and is being supported by the ice below it on the post.

We don't have a lot of ice storms here, but we have a lot of ice, and as it slides it does a lot of spectacular things.  The photos of unusual ice formations hanging implausibly off badly insulated roofs here last winter clogged Instagram for months.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TrevorB on December 04, 2015, 04:50:46 PM
I don't know if these are common but I've never seen them before. I spotted them on a recent trip to Nashville.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FicyNtGz.png&hash=ab88b9cfa65fe42918d3b84f222de83854b80ae3)

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1812987,-86.4338184,3a,15y,99.57h,89.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVQjtkYZS4mfdzb0UMXe3AA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on December 04, 2015, 05:43:15 PM
^^ I've not seen a sign like that one, though it reminds me of this (picture stolen from GSV):
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F29c4fft.png&hash=870e6dd88f4d54763974e0d478ecf0e9d931a256)

This stretch of US 33 near Goshen, IN was badly designed. The parking bays were a later addition. It took the deaths of 3 teenager girls to make INDOT wise to the fact that miles of high-speed highway with a curb and few cuts was a bad idea.

In 1978 the girls' Ford Pinto may have broken down in this area. A van plowed into the back, causing the Pinto to burst into flames. The local prosecutor charged Ford Motor with homicide in an unprecedented case, but Ford was found not guilty (http://www.csmonitor.com/1980/0314/031435.html). Although the prosecutor contended that the Pinto was moving when struck, Ford's expert contended that it was stopped. INDOT added the parking bays after the accident. Pintos were recalled to strengthen the rear of the vehicles, where the gas tank was located.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 05, 2015, 09:32:27 PM
A high school and college buddy of mine had an old Pinto. He called it "The Bomb" because of the well-known tendency of those things to explode if they were struck from the rear.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on December 11, 2015, 09:43:21 AM
This is quite redundant.

Southbound Renner Boulevard at eastbound K-10 and northbound I-435.

The No Left Turn sign is odd because anyone would crash into the side of that hill if they attempted such a turn.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F12%2F11%2F261dc0e219c97e08324177abecb3159b.jpg&hash=2ac222f8b8cbc48c325c47a54d98e76333b06ded)




iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ace10 on December 11, 2015, 10:58:07 PM
^ There are a couple of (text only) "NO LEFT TURN" signs here in Oregon where there is obviously no cross-street or driveway to the left at an intersection, but the sign is still there. Maybe it's to satisfy a legal requirement (turns are automatically allowed unless a sign prohibits them). But I think the signs are also useful in case there is dense fog or otherwise low visibility. At least you know if you need to turn left, right there is not where to turn.

Are you saying having both the no left turn and no U-turn signs both on the same pole is redundant? There is a combined 'no left turn and no U-turn' sign with the arrows combined, but depending on state law left turns might be prohibited but unless U-turns are also prohibited they may be permitted, so both in fact may need to be posted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wytout on December 12, 2015, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: roadfro on December 01, 2015, 12:42:06 AM
Quote from: Alex4897 on December 01, 2015, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 30, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
I saw several such photos from the Oklahoma ice storm. Either that's a rare embossed sign (not likely) or it's a Photoshop job (very likely).

There can be enough of a height difference between the layers of reflective material on a regular sign to create such a pattern in a coat of ice.  I don't see any reason to disbelieve this photo's authenticity.
Often, regulatory signs are made by making a blank rectangle of white reflective sheeting, then applying the non-reflective black elements on top of that. (That is why you sometimes see the black peeling off of some signs in hotter climates.) There is a thickness to the black film that could cause what is seen on this photo.

Could be a situation that there was some more melting of the ice where the black text was drawing in the rays, vs. the reflective section of the panel that would be reflecting rays?  Causing a thickness difference in the ice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 12, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
An unusual use of a Danger Warning sign on some teen actress's instagram page:

https://www.instagram.com/p/6V42STPtg6/



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 14, 2015, 03:36:22 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5375571,-74.2958596,3a,75y,3.27h,68.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sso9sPsKtZoAGd5Mp7F2YNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I could have swore I posted this one earlier, but it is not in my history or in the thread.  Three DO NOT ENTERS, as seen in the link, is kind of interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 14, 2015, 11:26:52 PM
Found this unique sign at an intersection in northern Madison County, AL a few months back. It's bad enough as it is, but it gets even better when you notice the grammar error on it.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/710/23463900790_e9a87e979d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BKqCeC)Beautiful (https://flic.kr/p/BKqCeC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 15, 2015, 01:04:08 AM
^ That looks like the 't' in "not" fell off the sign...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on December 15, 2015, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: Ace10 on December 11, 2015, 10:58:07 PM
^ There are a couple of (text only) "NO LEFT TURN" signs here in Oregon where there is obviously no cross-street or driveway to the left at an intersection, but the sign is still there. Maybe it's to satisfy a legal requirement (turns are automatically allowed unless a sign prohibits them). But I think the signs are also useful in case there is dense fog or otherwise low visibility. At least you know if you need to turn left, right there is not where to turn.

Are you saying having both the no left turn and no U-turn signs both on the same pole is redundant? There is a combined 'no left turn and no U-turn' sign with the arrows combined, but depending on state law left turns might be prohibited but unless U-turns are also prohibited they may be permitted, so both in fact may need to be posted.
The No U Turn sign should be sufficient as that is a side of a hill. The access ramps to/from eastbound K-10 end in a T at Renner Boulevard there.

These were put in within the past few months as part of the Johnson County Gateway Project.

Unless I'm mistaken, there is nothing within Kansas State Law to warrant this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 15, 2015, 11:21:36 AM
Quote from: roadfro on December 01, 2015, 12:42:06 AMOften, regulatory signs are made by making a blank rectangle of white reflective sheeting, then applying the non-reflective black elements on top of that. (That is why you sometimes see the black peeling off of some signs in hotter climates.) There is a thickness to the black film that could cause what is seen on this photo.

I think Oklahoma DOT uses black process ink rather than film for small single-sheet non-designable signs.  My own theory is differential heating from ambient lighting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on December 15, 2015, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 14, 2015, 11:26:52 PM
Found this unique sign at an intersection in northern Madison County, AL a few months back. It's bad enough as it is, but it gets even better when you notice the grammar error on it.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/710/23463900790_e9a87e979d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BKqCeC)Beautiful (https://flic.kr/p/BKqCeC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
That actually makes sense despite the grammar error. Crossing traffic has right-of-way, meaning they do no stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 15, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on December 15, 2015, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 14, 2015, 11:26:52 PM
Found this unique sign at an intersection in northern Madison County, AL a few months back. It's bad enough as it is, but it gets even better when you notice the grammar error on it.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/710/23463900790_e9a87e979d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BKqCeC)Beautiful (https://flic.kr/p/BKqCeC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
That actually makes sense despite the grammar error. Crossing traffic has right-of-way, meaning they do no stop.
Though it isn't MUTCD compliant. Here's how it should look if it was following the MUTCD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7222955,-86.5746793,3a,15y,24.27h,75.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dvb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D49.030113%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 15, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Pennsylvania does it in a more interesting way (was this a construction sign? Because it still exists as of today):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.3113234,-74.9056236,3a,15y,30.21h,85.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB04eDXV_qqdZXH_7GbHhxA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on December 16, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 15, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Pennsylvania does it in a more interesting way (was this a construction sign? Because it still exists as of today):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.3113234,-74.9056236,3a,15y,30.21h,85.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB04eDXV_qqdZXH_7GbHhxA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Those stop sign modifiers are usually white. I guess that particular one was temporary and then became permanent and they never installed a new permanent sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 16, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 15, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7222955,-86.5746793,3a,15y,24.27h,75.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dvb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D49.030113%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Why are stop signs posted on both sides of the post? Surely it would make more sense just posting two before the intersection (say on both sides of the street), instead of one at the intersection, and another across the intersection. Like so:

https://goo.gl/maps/qEwqffGP8wM2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 16, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
Solution when a tree is blocking the view of a stop sign?  https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.4968605,-88.0121338,3a,75y,317.86h,81.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd6VZ5ymvV_p_lHr6ULg5ow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on December 16, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on December 16, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 15, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Pennsylvania does it in a more interesting way (was this a construction sign? Because it still exists as of today):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.3113234,-74.9056236,3a,15y,30.21h,85.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB04eDXV_qqdZXH_7GbHhxA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Those stop sign modifiers are usually white. I guess that particular one was temporary and then became permanent and they never installed a new permanent sign.
Around here in KC, they're typically yellow and rectangular.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 16, 2015, 04:59:54 PM
Quote from: cappicard on December 16, 2015, 04:44:39 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on December 16, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 15, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
Pennsylvania does it in a more interesting way (was this a construction sign? Because it still exists as of today):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.3113234,-74.9056236,3a,15y,30.21h,85.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sB04eDXV_qqdZXH_7GbHhxA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Those stop sign modifiers are usually white. I guess that particular one was temporary and then became permanent and they never installed a new permanent sign.
Around here in KC, they're typically yellow and rectangular.
As per MUTCD 2009, as it more of a warning.  http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_09_longdesc.htm
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 16, 2015, 05:06:42 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4095/4790568775_d6ab663d9d_z_d.jpg)
Moran, KS

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5442/17777167261_ff292904ea_z_d.jpg)
Springfield, MO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on December 16, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
London, ON uses a lot of these tiger tail signs at stop signs.  They use them at both all way stops and two way stops.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/London,+ON,+Canada/@42.9991017,-81.2572164,3a,16.3y,282.24h,86.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stI-QiyK4FjR_h-bfwMzjwA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DtI-QiyK4FjR_h-bfwMzjwA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D282.43262%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x882ef20ea88d9b0b:0x28c7d7699a056b95!6m1!1e1?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 16, 2015, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on December 16, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
London, ON uses a lot of these tiger tail signs at stop signs.  They use them at both all way stops and two way stops.

I think the American (Seattle?) equivalent would be to wrap the actual post in red/white:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6138/5941986846_391551d556.jpg)

Image courtesy Rob Klug (https://www.flickr.com/photos/robklug/) / Flickr.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 16, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 16, 2015, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on December 16, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
London, ON uses a lot of these tiger tail signs at stop signs.  They use them at both all way stops and two way stops.

I think the American (Seattle?) equivalent would be to wrap the actual post in red/white:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6138/5941986846_391551d556.jpg)

Image courtesy Rob Klug (https://www.flickr.com/photos/robklug/) / Flickr.

I recall seeing white on red diagonal arrows, pointing toward the road, situated below the stop (or yield) sign, in parts of BC. Don't have a picture of it though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 16, 2015, 07:06:59 PM
I'm mostly familiar with a red reflective strip on the poll, not a red/white strip.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on December 16, 2015, 07:26:50 PM
Looks like the North Pole. Does it taste like a candy cane? Where's Santa?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 16, 2015, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 16, 2015, 07:06:59 PM
I'm mostly familiar with a red reflective strip on the poll, not a red/white strip.

I have started to see the red reflective strip lately. In fact, WSDOT loves to use reflective strips. I've seen green, yellow, and red strips depending on the type of sign. In terms of the sign type seen in Rob Klug's image, this has been mostly phased out. Can't remember seeing any new ones lately.

Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 16, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
I recall seeing white on red diagonal arrows, pointing toward the road, situated below the stop (or yield) sign, in parts of BC. Don't have a picture of it though.

I also have yet to capture a photo, but this is a street view shot of an example in White Rock:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FE162Az4.png&hash=b02c7d3caf49a22c987ae50fb2b90a0a47018936)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 17, 2015, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 16, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 15, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7222955,-86.5746793,3a,15y,24.27h,75.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dvb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D49.030113%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Why are stop signs posted on both sides of the post? Surely it would make more sense just posting two before the intersection (say on both sides of the street), instead of one at the intersection, and another across the intersection. Like so:

https://goo.gl/maps/qEwqffGP8wM2
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the intersection used to be a 4-way stop, and they moved the two stop signs for the street that doesn't have to stop to the backs of the other stop signs. Part of the reason why I believe that that intersection was originally a 4-way stop is that most of the 2-way stops here in Huntsville don't feature the "Cross traffic does not stop" signs and are set-up more like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6583789,-86.5565111,3a,66.8y,14.6h,89.92t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1snmMZghzlIh1Zsm1zocLy5g!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on December 18, 2015, 01:10:10 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 16, 2015, 07:06:59 PM
I'm mostly familiar with a red reflective strip on the poll, not a red/white strip.

There an 3-way STOP intersection right down the street from my home in PA that has red/white reflective strips underneath the STOP signs. Looks like PennDOT's work too (judging by the logos on the signs).

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5291/5521150050_24f4229d3e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 18, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 16, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 15, 2015, 09:30:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7222955,-86.5746793,3a,15y,24.27h,75.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dvb29UjnL5LawGrWfUQyyag%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D49.030113%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Why are stop signs posted on both sides of the post? Surely it would make more sense just posting two before the intersection (say on both sides of the street), instead of one at the intersection, and another across the intersection. Like so:

https://goo.gl/maps/qEwqffGP8wM2

Enhancing conspicuousness without enhancing hardware costs. The back to back version only costs the amount of the extra signs, and doesn't need the extra pole, sleeve, and cost to put extra pole in the ground.


Quote from: Big John on December 16, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
Solution when a tree is blocking the view of a stop sign?  https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.4968605,-88.0121338,3a,75y,317.86h,81.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd6VZ5ymvV_p_lHr6ULg5ow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

A "Stop Ahead" sign upstream would have been a better solution. Actually painting a stop line on the ground would also help.


Quote from: jakeroot on December 16, 2015, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 16, 2015, 07:06:59 PM
I'm mostly familiar with a red reflective strip on the poll, not a red/white strip.

I have started to see the red reflective strip lately. In fact, WSDOT loves to use reflective strips. I've seen green, yellow, and red strips depending on the type of sign.

2009 MUTCD allows for a reflective strip, the same color as the sign background, to be placed on the pole to enhance conspicuity. The red/white and other assortments are previous home-grown solutions.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 20, 2015, 06:49:46 PM
I somehow got to this photo while in GMSV... I've never seen a white-on-black speed limit sign, and I have no idea where in Orlando this is:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.530985,-81.347382,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s71266099!2e1!3e10!6s%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2Fproxy%2FuZ_ntruaI8BKY-UpdkOHB2mYyauhwelE7nVSkS20ba-HxaK7aaXMXWOs9hQjP6bnckuI1ENu5GbJgGaUIiP1qmfd2IXGOQ%3Dw203-h152!7i3264!8i2448
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 20, 2015, 07:45:46 PM
Who wants some Big White Signs on the Grand Central Parkway?

http://queensmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/About_Building-History_Birds-eye-view-NYC-Building-1964-Worlds-Fair1.jpg

It's in Black and White, but it was something I stumbled upon at the Queens Museum's website while searching for info on the old Sinclair gas station with the rotating gas pumps.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 20, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 20, 2015, 06:49:46 PM
I somehow got to this photo while in GMSV... I've never seen a white-on-black speed limit sign, and I have no idea where in Orlando this is:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.530985,-81.347382,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s71266099!2e1!3e10!6s%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2Fproxy%2FuZ_ntruaI8BKY-UpdkOHB2mYyauhwelE7nVSkS20ba-HxaK7aaXMXWOs9hQjP6bnckuI1ENu5GbJgGaUIiP1qmfd2IXGOQ%3Dw203-h152!7i3264!8i2448

I think that's in the Universal Orlando theme park.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92

Fairly common. Usually only used when there is a median next to the left turn lane though, such as in this case. I don't think they are necessary, but that's not my choice to make.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 21, 2015, 12:45:49 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 20, 2015, 07:45:46 PM
Who wants some Big White Signs on the Grand Central Parkway?

http://queensmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/About_Building-History_Birds-eye-view-NYC-Building-1964-Worlds-Fair1.jpg

It's in Black and White, but it was something I stumbled upon at the Queens Museum's website while searching for info on the old Sinclair gas station with the rotating gas pumps.
Looks like they block hotlinking, and whatever they do, it's the good kind that you can't bypass by going to the home page and then pasting in the URL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 21, 2015, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92

Fairly common. Usually only used when there is a median next to the left turn lane though, such as in this case. I don't think they are necessary, but that's not my choice to make.

Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for them either.  I'll see many intersections where the left lane must turn left and the right lane must turn right, yet this worded signage will either be omitted, or only one of the turn lanes is signed with the worded sign. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on December 21, 2015, 09:25:14 PM
"Ignore GPS" sign near an Amazon warehouse in Windsor, CT found by a reddit user:

(https://i.imgur.com/SYUSuo8.jpg)

Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3xrgxg/a_street_sign_telling_you_to_ignore_gps/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 21, 2015, 09:27:27 PM
Great to know?
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.035402,-87.8996491,3a,15y,56.96h,86.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0A2TtcFD9uDbKSufGbvTNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 21, 2015, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92

Fairly common. Usually only used when there is a median next to the left turn lane though, such as in this case. I don't think they are necessary, but that's not my choice to make.

Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for them either.  I'll see many intersections where the left lane must turn left and the right lane must turn right, yet this worded signage will either be omitted, or only one of the turn lanes is signed with the worded sign.

Typically, they're used only when a new lane forms (i.e. 2-lane road gets a left turn lane or right turn lane appears) or if a general-purpose lane becomes a turn lane, mostly in the latter case. I'd say the linked example is necessary because the left lane is a GP lane before the intersection. At least in the US, I think the MUTCD treats them like "exit only" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 21, 2015, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92

Fairly common. Usually only used when there is a median next to the left turn lane though, such as in this case. I don't think they are necessary, but that's not my choice to make.

Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for them either.  I'll see many intersections where the left lane must turn left and the right lane must turn right, yet this worded signage will either be omitted, or only one of the turn lanes is signed with the worded sign.

Typically, they're used only when a new lane forms (i.e. 2-lane road gets a left turn lane or right turn lane appears) or if a general-purpose lane becomes a turn lane, mostly in the latter case. I'd say the linked example is necessary because the left lane is a GP lane before the intersection. At least in the US, I think the MUTCD treats them like "exit only" signs.

In that case, I can actually see their use. I'd rather see lane use signs instead, but I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 11:29:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 21, 2015, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92

Fairly common. Usually only used when there is a median next to the left turn lane though, such as in this case. I don't think they are necessary, but that's not my choice to make.

Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for them either.  I'll see many intersections where the left lane must turn left and the right lane must turn right, yet this worded signage will either be omitted, or only one of the turn lanes is signed with the worded sign.

Typically, they're used only when a new lane forms (i.e. 2-lane road gets a left turn lane or right turn lane appears) or if a general-purpose lane becomes a turn lane, mostly in the latter case. I'd say the linked example is necessary because the left lane is a GP lane before the intersection. At least in the US, I think the MUTCD treats them like "exit only" signs.

In that case, I can actually see their use. I'd rather see lane use signs instead, but I'll take what I can get.

They're often used together. Lane use signs on span wire with ground mounted "must turn" signs. At least in the east, ground-mounted lane use signs are quite rare outside of Vermont. NYSDOT often tries to avoid this altogether by having the right lane end immediately before a right turn lane appears.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 11:29:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 11:22:06 PM
Quote from: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 10:42:53 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 21, 2015, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 21, 2015, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 21, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
How common are 'LEFT LANE MUST TURN LEFT' signs? By default, isn't that always the case?

https://goo.gl/maps/uNhY2YjEeW92

Fairly common. Usually only used when there is a median next to the left turn lane though, such as in this case. I don't think they are necessary, but that's not my choice to make.

Honestly, I never understood the reasoning for them either.  I'll see many intersections where the left lane must turn left and the right lane must turn right, yet this worded signage will either be omitted, or only one of the turn lanes is signed with the worded sign.

Typically, they're used only when a new lane forms (i.e. 2-lane road gets a left turn lane or right turn lane appears) or if a general-purpose lane becomes a turn lane, mostly in the latter case. I'd say the linked example is necessary because the left lane is a GP lane before the intersection. At least in the US, I think the MUTCD treats them like "exit only" signs.

In that case, I can actually see their use. I'd rather see lane use signs instead, but I'll take what I can get.

They're often used together. Lane use signs on span wire with ground mounted "must turn" signs. At least in the east, ground-mounted lane use signs are quite rare outside of Vermont. NYSDOT often tries to avoid this altogether by having the right lane end immediately before a right turn lane appears.

One of many differences between east and west, evidently: lane use signs, at least in Washington, are very heavily used, almost universally ground-mounted. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen span-wire lane use signs. If there is some sort of overhead signage, it's a BGS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on December 22, 2015, 01:00:50 AM

Quote from: Bruce on December 21, 2015, 09:25:14 PM
"Ignore GPS" sign near an Amazon warehouse in Windsor, CT found by a reddit user:

(https://i.imgur.com/SYUSuo8.jpg)

Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/3xrgxg/a_street_sign_telling_you_to_ignore_gps/)

Finally, unambiguously good advice from a sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jovet on December 22, 2015, 04:23:48 AM
Quote from: cappicard on December 15, 2015, 10:38:10 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, there is nothing within Kansas State Law to warrant this.
I've always viewed situations like that as an assistance to wayfinding.  If you're not familiar with the area, lost, maybe in the dark, and you want to go that direction, you might just try turning there before you notice there's actually no road there.  I've known plenty of people who have done that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on December 22, 2015, 08:46:10 AM
Quote from: cl94 on December 21, 2015, 11:29:52 PM
At least in the east, ground-mounted lane use signs are quite rare outside of Vermont.

I'd say they are common in Louisiana.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on December 22, 2015, 09:47:13 AM

Quote from: Jovet on December 22, 2015, 04:23:48 AM
Quote from: cappicard on December 15, 2015, 10:38:10 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, there is nothing within Kansas State Law to warrant this.
I've always viewed situations like that as an assistance to wayfinding.  If you're not familiar with the area, lost, maybe in the dark, and you want to go that direction, you might just try turning there before you notice there's actually no road there.  I've known plenty of people who have done that.
Prior to this year's Johnson County Gateway, there was a very steep dirt access road to private property (it may be owned by JC Penney Logistics Center) directly east of the off-ramp from eastbound K-10.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 22, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 21, 2015, 09:27:27 PM
Great to know?
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.035402,-87.8996491,3a,15y,56.96h,86.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0A2TtcFD9uDbKSufGbvTNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

An "Accident Investigation Site" is usually used as a place to pull off the roadway (as opposed to blocking lanes) to resolve fender benders and similar, non-serious accidents, especially in cases where there is no or little shoulder to pull off to.

US 95 in Las Vegas used to have a couple of these in the early 2000s on the east/west segment west of downtown. These were put in between when NDOT eliminated the right shoulders to provide auxiliary lanes but before completion of the mid-2000s widening projects expanded the freeway to its current configuration.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 22, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: roadfro on December 22, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 21, 2015, 09:27:27 PM
Great to know?
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.035402,-87.8996491,3a,15y,56.96h,86.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0A2TtcFD9uDbKSufGbvTNQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

An "Accident Investigation Site" is usually used as a place to pull off the roadway (as opposed to blocking lanes) to resolve fender benders and similar, non-serious accidents, especially in cases where there is no or little shoulder to pull off to.

I would prefer "Emergency Pull-off" personally. "Accident Investigation Site" seems almost too specific, so specific that I'm not sure the general population would be comfortable stopping in that area, for fear of invading a crime scene or something. I know I wouldn't have stopped in that area (perhaps a more permanent installation on a white background would be less confusing).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: relaxok on December 22, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12391952_1059035617453226_5860219515706118672_n.jpg?oh=175a6d2a3f50c37088db788eb71a1721&oe=56D83775)

From an intersection close to Skywalker Ranch here in Marin!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on December 22, 2015, 08:03:46 PM
Quote from: relaxok on December 22, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12391952_1059035617453226_5860219515706118672_n.jpg?oh=175a6d2a3f50c37088db788eb71a1721&oe=56D83775)

From an intersection close to Skywalker Ranch here in Marin!
Holy crap is that a large photo.

I can imagine the signs. Yield to Androids When Crossing. STOP if these are the wrong droids you're looking for.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 22, 2015, 11:39:12 PM
Quote from: relaxok on December 22, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12391952_1059035617453226_5860219515706118672_n.jpg?oh=175a6d2a3f50c37088db788eb71a1721&oe=56D83775)

From an intersection close to Skywalker Ranch here in Marin!

Dumb question, but that is Photoshopped right? The DIN 1451 being used looks pretty good, and the colours match very nicely.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on December 22, 2015, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 22, 2015, 11:39:12 PM
Quote from: relaxok on December 22, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12391952_1059035617453226_5860219515706118672_n.jpg?oh=175a6d2a3f50c37088db788eb71a1721&oe=56D83775)

From an intersection close to Skywalker Ranch here in Marin!

Dumb question, but that is Photoshopped right? The DIN 1451 being used looks pretty good, and the colours match very nicely.

Yes, it is (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.054722,-122.6932503,3a,43.4y,273.45h,74.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH7cwREeU7Ou5uk6Ov38Qbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 22, 2015, 11:48:57 PM
Here's the actual intersection: https://goo.gl/maps/65gJ2CKU4uu

I'm going with photo-shopped, because you can see a little pixilation around the sides of the diamond.  I gave it the benefit of the doubt that it was a novelty sign, but a search for such a sign for sale came up empty.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
Found this today in a private parking lot.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FIMG_20151224_122912_zpseblqayrc.jpg&hash=b1a0f4ed3d2361822cbcac30bb28d39b6873f56f)

An old yield sign (Canadian style, flipped upside down) with a European looking pedestrian crossing within it.

The guy's head looks a bit displaced though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 25, 2015, 04:13:15 PM
Here's an odd sign on US 31 in Decatur, AL:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1445/23601849859_a4f7e944ab.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BXBDFR)No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/BXBDFR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And have some odd and ugly signage from Jackson County, AL:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5622/23887231981_3801925f8a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CoQiRg)Weight Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/CoQiRg) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5657/23674076240_26b966bcf0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/C4ZQ5h)Weight Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/C4ZQ5h) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1633/23887231571_541e069c0b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CoQiJc)Dead End Road (https://flic.kr/p/CoQiJc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1625/23861495082_4a394c7370.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CmypaC)Odd and Ugly Signs (https://flic.kr/p/CmypaC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1591/23943658406_2f91895278.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CtPvsE)Weight Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/CtPvsE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1518/23342959033_1f015895d6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ByJLsV)Road Closed (https://flic.kr/p/ByJLsV) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5624/23887231211_e6c659ab10.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CoQiBZ)In Case Of Blocked Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/CoQiBZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1506/23861495312_d1d7a661b4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CmypeA)Weight Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/CmypeA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Most of the above signs were in Scottsboro, AL, though a few are in the surrounding communities of Hollywood and Woodville.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 25, 2015, 08:42:44 PM
Is this an OOCEA-contracted sign, being that it points to one of the tolled roads through Orlando?
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5354642,-81.3972851,3a,50.7y,151.57h,107.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIisReSvV7fSy0TwzbBrNlA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 27, 2015, 03:47:54 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on December 24, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
Found this today in a private parking lot.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FIMG_20151224_122912_zpseblqayrc.jpg&hash=b1a0f4ed3d2361822cbcac30bb28d39b6873f56f)

An old yield sign (Canadian style, flipped upside down) with a European looking pedestrian crossing within it.

The guy's head looks a bit displaced though.
The sign itself looks pretty weather-beaten too. I wonder if the people who made this sign deliberately sought a weather-beaten Yield sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on December 27, 2015, 04:22:34 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1925527,-81.4753365,3a,15y,177.11h,91.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSmPUlT9ZmLgz9N4EJTcM1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This looks like it uses Series EM for half of the destination legend - which, judging by the age of this sign, is rare in Georgia. However, it also has a text version of US 80, with a 2dus US 280 shield. It's like a mix-and-match of different techniques.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on December 27, 2015, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 27, 2015, 04:22:34 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1925527,-81.4753365,3a,15y,177.11h,91.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSmPUlT9ZmLgz9N4EJTcM1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This looks like it uses Series EM for half of the destination legend - which, judging by the age of this sign, is rare in Georgia. However, it also has a text version of US 80, with a 2dus US 280 shield. It's like a mix-and-match of different techniques.

Georgia originally used EM before switching over to Series D (I'm not sure exactly when that happened, but I think it was sometime in the '80s or maybe the early '90s). Obviously, this sign isn't old enough to be from that era due to the exit number, but every so often on some of the more rural sections of the Interstates you'll see some of these 2000s-vintage partially-EM signs. My guess is that they were designed as carbon copies of the old signs except for the updated exit numbers from the 1999-2000 renumbering.

Also unusual for this era is the bottom line reading simply "1 MILE" instead of "EXIT 1 MILE". The redundant word has been taken out on all the new post-2008 signs, but was always included before then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 31, 2015, 11:38:11 PM
This AL 36 shield in Cotaco, AL has the cardinal direction mounted beneath the shield:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5644/23989011442_29023368f5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CxPXky)AL 36 (https://flic.kr/p/CxPXky) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5779/23470326883_387ee5fe1d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BKZyuk)AL 36 (https://flic.kr/p/BKZyuk) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5719/24097109895_2c9bff2788.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CHnZeZ)AL 36 (https://flic.kr/p/CHnZeZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on January 01, 2016, 12:03:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F16%2F01%2F01%2F4e38bc0ee1a9dca9562d7d279fe15423.jpg&hash=77e8097f1fe3d875ab44d0e1ba406d9bd61a5ac7)
I found this oddball in Manhattan, Kansas. 4th and Pierre Streets when Pierre turns into K-177.  It's not using a sunflower shield, but rather a generic circular state shield.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 03, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
A cousin of mine took this picture on Sanibel Island, Fla., and posted it to his Facebook page.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2Flowflyingowls_zpsukdtjq8n.jpg&hash=88b1ecc9116cf270ea4efc7958b9ff338df7084a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on January 03, 2016, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
A cousin of mine took this picture on Sanibel Island, Fla., and posted it to his Facebook page.
(pic snipped)
I have an urge that that image is Photoshopped. It is also WAY too big.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 03, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on January 03, 2016, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
A cousin of mine took this picture on Sanibel Island, Fla., and posted it to his Facebook page.
(pic snipped)
I have an urge that that image is Photoshopped. It is also WAY too big.

It appears they're real. Had I known about those, I might have driven over there when we were in the area last week. Oh well.

http://www.captivasanibel.com/page/content.detail/id/525923/Saving-screech-owls-on-Sanibel.html

http://www.island-reporter.com/page/content.detail/id/526332/Screech-Owl-warning-signs-are-up-on-Sanibel-Captiva-Road.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 03, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
Can't figure what this one exactly means:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0497567,-85.3059994,3a,15y,231.4h,88.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK6Rat4MArvpdxsZ-T49ZdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 03, 2016, 11:33:10 PM
These are standard here, but I think they're unique looking. Not sure if I like them though.

https://goo.gl/maps/z32kXAyMt3s

Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
Can't figure what this one exactly means:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0497567,-85.3059994,3a,15y,231.4h,88.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK6Rat4MArvpdxsZ-T49ZdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm guessing that doesn't include road signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on January 04, 2016, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 03, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
Can't figure what this one exactly means:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0497567,-85.3059994,3a,15y,231.4h,88.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK6Rat4MArvpdxsZ-T49ZdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's the same as "Post no bills" I've seen in many cities. They're referring to posters being taped to light posts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 04, 2016, 06:28:40 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
A cousin of mine took this picture on Sanibel Island, Fla., and posted it to his Facebook page.

Reminds me of this one on Florida's east coast (FL 614).

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1503/23883726980_b6e1e64b1d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CowkWd)
Sandhill Crane Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/CowkWd) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on January 07, 2016, 02:09:50 AM
At the top of the new temporary ramp from SR 520 to 24th Ave (here (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6445778,-122.3017628,19.15z?hl=en), unfortunately completely inaccessible to me for photography) there is now a directional sign to Lake Washington Blvd... in a green diamond. Where did that sign blank even come from? This adds to the (now removed, I think) white overhead Montlake Blvd exit sign that I'm pretty sure was mentioned previously, making me sure the contractor is incompetent at making temporary signage...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 07, 2016, 03:08:19 AM
Quote from: jay8g on January 07, 2016, 02:09:50 AM
This adds to the (now removed, I think) white overhead Montlake Blvd exit sign that I'm pretty sure was mentioned previously, making me sure the contractor is incompetent at making temporary signage...

At least it was on a Vancouver (WA)-style monotube...

Also, RIP RH Thomson Ramps-to-Nowhere.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXd0FAGt.jpg&hash=2c983650544c77c59bd40dfb8fc15d72d614521e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 07, 2016, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: jay8g on January 07, 2016, 02:09:50 AM
At the top of the new temporary ramp from SR 520 to 24th Ave (here (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6445778,-122.3017628,19.15z?hl=en), unfortunately completely inaccessible to me for photography) there is now a directional sign to Lake Washington Blvd... in a green diamond. Where did that sign blank even come from?

Saw the sign on the news this morning...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpuI3hFr.png&hash=efa61c6f25617b58e0fb7f4b09fda5ea71c8bb2d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on January 09, 2016, 03:34:15 PM
Also spotted on Seattle news this morning...a green HOV/express lane sign on I-90:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVg8jhAT.jpg&hash=e28fdcb3da019331c2772b330163e09ca18cf6d2)

Normally, they'd be white when it's a combined sign (in which HOV takes precedence):

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.589983,-122.3081812,3a,75y,62.07h,99.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfRoJc1zoRiPAdNXXDP12tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2016, 04:37:32 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 09, 2016, 03:34:15 PM
Also spotted on Seattle news this morning...a green HOV/express lane sign on I-90:

Normally, they'd be white when it's a combined sign (in which HOV takes precedence):

I remember seeing those a while back when Steve (Alps), Kacie, and I were driving around. Reminds me a bit of California. More to the point, however, those would have been installed in the early 90s. I believe they would have been the first HOV lanes in the area. Perhaps they date from before the black-on-white HOV era?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 09, 2016, 06:04:51 PM
The city of Huntsville, AL installed these signs on Whitesburg Drive last year after the intersection of Whitesburg Drive and Martin Road was reconfigured to help the flow of traffic with the new Whitesburg School building:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1640/24197282451_d789fa905f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CSep42)BWSes? (https://flic.kr/p/CSep42) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on January 09, 2016, 06:30:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 09, 2016, 04:37:32 PM
Quote from: Bruce on January 09, 2016, 03:34:15 PM
Also spotted on Seattle news this morning...a green HOV/express lane sign on I-90:

Normally, they'd be white when it's a combined sign (in which HOV takes precedence):

I remember seeing those a while back when Steve (Alps), Kacie, and I were driving around. Reminds me a bit of California. More to the point, however, those would have been installed in the early 90s. I believe they would have been the first HOV lanes in the area. Perhaps they date from before the black-on-white HOV era?

I'm not certain, but I doubt it. I don't think these are the original version. (Though I confess I can't remember whether the prior ones were white or green.)

It's worth pointing out that I think the MUTCD actually recommends green over white when it's a guide sign as opposed to purely a restriction.  That doesn't explain why WSDOT continues to use exclusively white on I-5, but does explain why some of the HOT lane signs on 405 are green, and may explain this one.

ETA:  I'm guessing this is the sign in question, (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.578137,-122.2055351,3a,75y,276.73h,73.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCkFSRcflAOBw6D84MIoavQ!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) but I'm pretty sure that's not the only green HOV sign on I-90.  If you play with the time slider or whatever it's called, it was installed sometime between 2008 and 2011, presumably at the same time as the variable speed limits.  Prior to then, there was a mostly white sign for the express lanes attached to the overpass in the background.

(Also of minor interest, sometime between 2011 and 2015, the "CLOSED" panel was changed from black on yellow to white on red.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 12, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
Literally interesting.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6970332,-105.2230664,3a,15y,154.24h,91.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ--7vepHzJUpvsQ8NjGmIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 12, 2016, 06:34:04 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on January 12, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
Literally interesting.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6970332,-105.2230664,3a,15y,154.24h,91.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ--7vepHzJUpvsQ8NjGmIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I'm not sure what specific point they are speaking of, but there are potentially several to choose from at/near that exit, including Red Rocks Ampitheater.  The sign should say POINTS and not POINT.   :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 14, 2016, 03:42:34 PM
"Joggers in Roadway," ramp from SB GW Parkway in Virginia to Memorial Drive. I've never seen a jogger around there and I've always wondered why joggers but not pedestrians.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F3365045B-FA0F-4007-BD82-950CD6972095_zpsfynt0fuc.jpg&hash=20a97e2e2ba61bd0ab6358a7a96ad745d7d5cb54)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on January 15, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.766456,-73.4045097,3a,45.3y,21.45h,87.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sxXOoXM62TEElzhVwYPr8kg!2e0) interesting take on the standard NO TURN ON RED [circle] sign while looking at the Long Island Motor Parkway and surrounding area in Street View earlier today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 16, 2016, 02:08:03 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 15, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.766456,-73.4045097,3a,45.3y,21.45h,87.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sxXOoXM62TEElzhVwYPr8kg!2e0) interesting take on the standard NO TURN ON RED [circle] sign while looking at the Long Island Motor Parkway and surrounding area in Street View earlier today.

Not much different than a standard MUTCD sign, which doesn't include the word "right" and arranges the word layout slightly differently. MUTCD has versions with and without symbolic red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 21, 2016, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 15, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.766456,-73.4045097,3a,45.3y,21.45h,87.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sxXOoXM62TEElzhVwYPr8kg!2e0) interesting take on the standard NO TURN ON RED [circle] sign while looking at the Long Island Motor Parkway and surrounding area in Street View earlier today.
Still MUTCD complaint, even if they're not that common on Long Island.

There ought to be a purely symbolic version of the No Right Turn on Red Sign. Just use a standard No Right Turn logo, and add a traffic signal logo next to it, with only the red light showing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on January 21, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 21, 2016, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 15, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.766456,-73.4045097,3a,45.3y,21.45h,87.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sxXOoXM62TEElzhVwYPr8kg!2e0) interesting take on the standard NO TURN ON RED [circle] sign while looking at the Long Island Motor Parkway and surrounding area in Street View earlier today.
Still MUTCD complaint, even if they're not that common on Long Island.

There ought to be a purely symbolic version of the No Right Turn on Red Sign. Just use a standard No Right Turn logo, and add a traffic signal logo next to it, with only the red light showing.

Ontario has one that is just that. Quite easy to understand.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 21, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 21, 2016, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 15, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.766456,-73.4045097,3a,45.3y,21.45h,87.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sxXOoXM62TEElzhVwYPr8kg!2e0) interesting take on the standard NO TURN ON RED [circle] sign while looking at the Long Island Motor Parkway and surrounding area in Street View earlier today.

Still MUTCD complaint, even if they're not that common on Long Island.

There ought to be a purely symbolic version of the No Right Turn on Red Sign. Just use a standard No Right Turn logo, and add a traffic signal logo next to it, with only the red light showing.

Ontario has one that is just that. Quite easy to understand.

The Canadian variation has crossed the border. This one is in Seattle...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfKAhMIa.png&hash=8909ed9e79021f79ef57ad54f39a1ec3ca3dbe38)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 21, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 07:39:07 PM
The Canadian variation has crossed the border. This one is in Seattle...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfKAhMIa.png&hash=8909ed9e79021f79ef57ad54f39a1ec3ca3dbe38)
I was thinking the "No Right Turn on Red" logo would be bigger, and the traffic signal would be on the right side of the logo, but this is good enough.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 09:43:53 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 21, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
I was thinking the "No Right Turn on Red" logo would be bigger, and the traffic signal would be on the right side of the logo, but this is good enough.

I would guess that, since most "no turn on red" signs are mast-mounted, taller, narrower signs are preferred. A variation with the two symbols in the same row could/should exist for overhead installations.

EDIT: to make it abundantly clear, Canada only uses the symbolic version...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQkFMHmI.png&hash=b72280e60f22aed225b20ab10307098598954512)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 21, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 21, 2016, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 15, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
I found (link)

Still MUTCD complaint, even if they're not that common on Long Island.

There ought to be a purely symbolic version of the No Right Turn on Red Sign. Just use a standard No Right Turn logo, and add a traffic signal logo next to it, with only the red light showing.

Ontario has one that is just that. Quite easy to understand.

The Canadian variation has crossed the border. This one is in Seattle...

(link)

Pretty sure the Ontario version is standard across Canada:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5725/21990805500_022d8c4589.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zvfCjY)
Standard Canadian &#x27;No Right Turn on Red&#x27; Sign (https://flic.kr/p/zvfCjY) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
Pretty sure the Ontario version is standard across Canada

I believe the sign itself is a TAC standard (if there is such a thing). I cannot recall seeing a "no turn on red" sign with text before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
Pretty sure the Ontario version is standard across Canada

I believe the sign itself is a TAC standard (if there is such a thing). I cannot recall seeing a "no turn on red" sign with text before.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/712/21556054584_8bf7681d69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yQQq2w)
Old Winnipeg Street Blade Design (https://flic.kr/p/yQQq2w) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

:bigass:

This one isn't standard though. The university put it up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 10:13:11 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 10:06:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I believe the sign itself is a TAC standard (if there is such a thing). I cannot recall seeing a "no turn on red" sign with text before.
:bigass:

This one isn't standard though. The university put it up.

Allow me to retort...new "no turn on red" sign. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 21, 2016, 11:50:04 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 15, 2015, 11:21:36 AM
Quote from: roadfro on December 01, 2015, 12:42:06 AMOften, regulatory signs are made by making a blank rectangle of white reflective sheeting, then applying the non-reflective black elements on top of that. (That is why you sometimes see the black peeling off of some signs in hotter climates.) There is a thickness to the black film that could cause what is seen on this photo.

I think Oklahoma DOT uses black process ink rather than film for small single-sheet non-designable signs.  My own theory is differential heating from ambient lighting.

This is old, but I believe the sign in question was made by the city of Piedmont, not Oklahoma DOT (which does in fact use process inks).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 22, 2016, 07:44:47 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
Pretty sure the Ontario version is standard across Canada

I believe the sign itself is a TAC standard (if there is such a thing). I cannot recall seeing a "no turn on red" sign with text before.

I'm pretty sure I have on entering the Island of Montreal. There's a symbolic sign with French text indicating it's an area-wide restriction. What I cannot recall off the top of my head is whether any such signs were posted at traffic lights or whether it was something places differently. I just haven't been there in a while to be able to remember. I'll try to find a Street View later today and will edit this then to add a link unless someone else has already rendered the issue moot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 22, 2016, 02:07:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 22, 2016, 07:44:47 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 21, 2016, 09:49:11 PM
Pretty sure the Ontario version is standard across Canada

I believe the sign itself is a TAC standard (if there is such a thing). I cannot recall seeing a "no turn on red" sign with text before.

I'm pretty sure I have on entering the Island of Montreal. There's a symbolic sign with French text indicating it's an area-wide restriction. What I cannot recall off the top of my head is whether any such signs were posted at traffic lights or whether it was something places differently. I just haven't been there in a while to be able to remember. I'll try to find a Street View later today and will edit this then to add a link unless someone else has already rendered the issue moot.

Within central Montreal, I believe there are some "reminder" signs, but they are the normal symbolic signs used across the rest of Canada.

The sign, upon entering the island, is a horizontal version of the normal "no turn on red" sign with the French "Ile de Montreal" text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 22, 2016, 10:40:16 PM
This BGS along AL 24 in Russellville could use a bit of work, IMO:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1576/24468345841_e8cb871425.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DhbEKK)US 43 (https://flic.kr/p/DhbEKK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Spotted these in Gu-Win, AL:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1469/24255124770_14ca0c2002.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CXkRyo)Children At Play (https://flic.kr/p/CXkRyo) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1688/24182892369_c03695d69f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CQXDoa)No Littering (https://flic.kr/p/CQXDoa) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 26, 2016, 02:20:53 PM
Trolley Turns: https://goo.gl/maps/5HPhGq25krR2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 26, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
If I were a truck driver in Memphis, I'm not sure how I'd react to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/2Vfr6yYEfYy
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on January 26, 2016, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 26, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
If I were a truck driver in Memphis, I'm not sure how I'd react to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/2Vfr6yYEfYy

Ignore the large building right in front of you. It's a mirage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 26, 2016, 10:45:55 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 26, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
If I were a truck driver in Memphis, I'm not sure how I'd react to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/2Vfr6yYEfYy
It is redundant at if you scroll a block back down that street, there is a no trucks sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 27, 2016, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: jbnv on January 26, 2016, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 26, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
If I were a truck driver in Memphis, I'm not sure how I'd react to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/2Vfr6yYEfYy

Ignore the large building right in front of you. It's a mirage.

:D good one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on January 27, 2016, 10:25:07 AM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 26, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
If I were a truck driver in Memphis, I'm not sure how I'd react to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/2Vfr6yYEfYy

There is a sign like this exiting a local shopping plaza. I wonder what they expect the truck driver to do when he encounters said sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theFXexpert on January 27, 2016, 10:36:37 AM
Neon green speed limit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.1462312,-82.7561403,3a,75y,141.5h,88.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb-hez7JnO39ngJgfpwn8LQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on January 27, 2016, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 26, 2016, 10:45:55 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 26, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
If I were a truck driver in Memphis, I'm not sure how I'd react to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/2Vfr6yYEfYy
It is redundant at if you scroll a block back down that street, there is a no trucks sign.

True...although I think the the sign I highlighted actually predates the that portion of the Convention Center.  I'm guessing that the no-trucks sign one block back is a result of the street no longer having an outlet for trucks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 27, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: theFXexpert on January 27, 2016, 10:36:37 AM
Neon green speed limit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.1462312,-82.7561403,3a,75y,141.5h,88.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb-hez7JnO39ngJgfpwn8LQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

And I'm fairly sure "YOUR SPEED" is in Gotham, which I'm surprised hasn't popped up on a sign before considering how much of a fad it was among graphic designers at the end of the last decade.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Thing 342 on January 28, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
Found this oddity in Kilmarnock, VA a few weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160129%2F6402b2193f125b786afc85ab441ac9c0.jpg&hash=f60afa79c643d9fadbad954c20ad459c0bbb0ce2)

There were a few more like it around, all inexplicably in Transport as well.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 29, 2016, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on January 28, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
There were a few more like it around, all inexplicably in Transport as well.

From that angle, it appears the sign assembly is anxiously hiding from someone walking the other way down the sidewalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on January 30, 2016, 06:40:50 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.233194,-87.6212818,3a,15y,135.46h,89.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soKvgq563wvc4s8AoF6qoKQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Impressively enough, those are Alabama state-named Interstate shields. (Also, turning right leads to... a fenced area?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Takumi on January 31, 2016, 10:58:53 AM
VDOT's prior incompetence on a sign on VA 54 (where Hanover Courthouse was abbreviated "Hanover Ch" instead of the previous generation sign's "Hanover C.H.") had me initially wondering why I'd never heard of Wicomico Courthouse before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: yakra on February 01, 2016, 02:03:55 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2011981,-59.9570921,3a,75y,202.95h,78.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQxBUZ_8a2fS6uRPGPXqROg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 01, 2016, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: yakra on February 01, 2016, 02:03:55 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2011981,-59.9570921,3a,75y,202.95h,78.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQxBUZ_8a2fS6uRPGPXqROg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2010827,-59.9572041,3a,16.5y,199.51h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_eQ1uTfEMcxsqr0vYxGStA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on February 01, 2016, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on January 28, 2016, 11:16:49 PM
Found this oddity in Kilmarnock, VA a few weeks ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160129%2F6402b2193f125b786afc85ab441ac9c0.jpg&hash=f60afa79c643d9fadbad954c20ad459c0bbb0ce2)

There were a few more like it around, all inexplicably in Transport as well.



Those have to be a town installation, though the shields are definitely VDOT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 01, 2016, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 01, 2016, 11:15:12 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2010827,-59.9572041,3a,16.5y,199.51h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_eQ1uTfEMcxsqr0vYxGStA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's Canadian standard. You'll find those commonly throughout the country (except in Quebec). Why a checkerboard is used, I don't know. This one is near my house.

https://goo.gl/maps/reHpx15UTY62

Another example:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Opeongo_Road_signs.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on February 02, 2016, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 01, 2016, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 01, 2016, 11:15:12 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2010827,-59.9572041,3a,16.5y,199.51h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_eQ1uTfEMcxsqr0vYxGStA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's Canadian standard. You'll find those commonly throughout the country (except in Quebec). Why a checkerboard is used, I don't know. This one is near my house.


Increases the target value. Checkerboard is used in one high-risk application (the end of the road/alignment) so it provides a very clear and unique design for that location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 02, 2016, 09:51:46 AM
Quote from: cbeach40 on February 02, 2016, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 01, 2016, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 01, 2016, 11:15:12 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2010827,-59.9572041,3a,16.5y,199.51h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_eQ1uTfEMcxsqr0vYxGStA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's Canadian standard. You'll find those commonly throughout the country (except in Quebec). Why a checkerboard is used, I don't know. This one is near my house.


Increases the target value. Checkerboard is used in one high-risk application (the end of the road/alignment) so it provides a very clear and unique design for that location.

It's like adding flags or a low-cost alternate to flashing beacons. Also used at sharp curves and other dangerous locations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on February 02, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.226847,-119.0391835,3a,15y,76.04h,91.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soa4PMiQBKbaCTNqP1ZhRqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Definitely interesting...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 03, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
In Morehead, Ky. (city-installed)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2Ftwo-way%2520sign_zpslbddhnbu.jpg&hash=0c34961d405b220a4bca74c64038139dcd2a7410)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 04, 2016, 11:08:05 AM
Nothing too weird about these crossbucks, but it appears that they used some old route-shield assemblies for the poles:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.8890834,-102.8836056,3a,55.4y,113.72h,86.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sIoDzFWfh-WNsiYNk6DZrOg!2e0

Here's one with yield signs next to the crossbucks:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.8825663,-102.8910601,3a,66.8y,352.26h,88.55t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjy2nIapUeP2u1GtF3ziyhg!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 04, 2016, 02:48:16 PM
A whole lot of gooey goodness in this picture (on private property)...

https://goo.gl/maps/rDzp9CEF2Vv

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on February 04, 2016, 06:11:26 PM
It's not often that you see a college symbol on an advance interchange sign on a freeway. In fact, I can't think of another instance where this occurs in Upstate New York, probably because it's not allowed per the NYS supplement to the 2009 MUTCD.

The other signs for this interchange do not mention SUNY Poly. This is apparently the combination of an advance interchange sign and a supplement destination sign onto one panel.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faf5.doesntexist.org%2Froads%2Fsunypoly3.jpg&hash=446eb95846579336b4b41dd6344f526435ecc1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 04, 2016, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 03, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
In Morehead, Ky. (city-installed)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2Ftwo-way%2520sign_zpslbddhnbu.jpg&hash=0c34961d405b220a4bca74c64038139dcd2a7410)

Why have a sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on February 04, 2016, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on February 04, 2016, 06:11:26 PM
It's not often that you see a college symbol on an advance interchange sign on a freeway.

Virginia does this a lot (1) (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7619899,-81.8429106,3a,37.5y,86.51h,85.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGKSBvTkxJU1ox2mZsWhS4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (2) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0977659,-80.5156384,3a,37.5y,126.6h,91.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stdbD9aAuIR13QIK8DWGMQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 04, 2016, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 04, 2016, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 03, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
In Morehead, Ky. (city-installed)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2Ftwo-way%2520sign_zpslbddhnbu.jpg&hash=0c34961d405b220a4bca74c64038139dcd2a7410)

Why have a sign?
Was this a one-way street recently converted to a two-way street?  Just thinking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on February 04, 2016, 10:24:58 PM
Quote from: Eth on February 04, 2016, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on February 04, 2016, 06:11:26 PM
It's not often that you see a college symbol on an advance interchange sign on a freeway.

Virginia does this a lot (1) (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7619899,-81.8429106,3a,37.5y,86.51h,85.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGKSBvTkxJU1ox2mZsWhS4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (2) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0977659,-80.5156384,3a,37.5y,126.6h,91.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stdbD9aAuIR13QIK8DWGMQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

Just in case their students can't read and write words so well, and have to depend on logos.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 04, 2016, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 04, 2016, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 04, 2016, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 03, 2016, 10:11:22 PM
In Morehead, Ky. (city-installed)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1028.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy348%2Fhbelkins%2Ftwo-way%2520sign_zpslbddhnbu.jpg&hash=0c34961d405b220a4bca74c64038139dcd2a7410)

Why have a sign?
Was this a one-way street recently converted to a two-way street?  Just thinking.

Bexley, Ohio has the compact version of that sign at an alley (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9550601,-82.9341254,3a,44.3y,330.86h,78.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1senSwr3-PJB1P5QeFzbf9dg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). No idea why it is in place because it is one of a kind.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 05, 2016, 02:03:16 PM
I don't know if that particular street in Morehead was ever one-way, but it is extremely narrow.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 05, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
Turns out it's in the MUTCD, but I've never seen this "no straight" before, and it looks odd to me:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1500/24471281069_efe5f25508_b.jpg)

I know, not all that unusual, but certainly uncommon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 05, 2016, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 05, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
Turns out it's in the MUTCD, but I've never seen this "no straight" before, and it looks odd to me:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1500/24471281069_efe5f25508_b.jpg)

I've seen it (the R3-27) once or twice, but an R3-5 or R3-6 is typically used instead. Quite interesting to see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 05, 2016, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 05, 2016, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 05, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
Turns out it's in the MUTCD, but I've never seen this "no straight" before, and it looks odd to me:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1500/24471281069_efe5f25508_b.jpg

I've seen it (the R3-27) once or twice, but an R3-5 or R3-6 is typically used instead. Quite interesting to see.

I've personally witnessed this sign only once, in downtown Seattle right next to the Space Needle:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPAawhnq.png&hash=342b0d0c1f266b009deb85d42f3e0c66d62d8cb3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 06, 2016, 10:05:15 PM
This I-565 shield on AL 255 looks rather malformed, like some kind of love child between a bubble-shield and a standard 3di shield:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1445/24770791391_948fd9aa7a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DJUMhc)Malformed I-565 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/DJUMhc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
EDIT: Here's a larger version of the photo so you can see it better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 06, 2016, 11:24:33 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 06, 2016, 10:05:15 PM
This I-565 shield on AL 255 looks rather malformed, like some kind of love child between a bubble-shield and a standard 3di shieldMalformed I-565 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/DJUMhc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
EDIT: Here's a larger version of the photo so you can see it better.

I'd prefer a bubble shield over that...thing. It just looks weird.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 07, 2016, 07:14:18 PM
That looks like a standard bubble shield with improperly spaced numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 07, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 07, 2016, 07:14:18 PM
That looks like a standard bubble shield with improperly spaced numbers.
The sides on the top of it look a bit flatter than a standard bubble shield, IMO. Maybe I'm just seeing things though...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 07, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 07, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 07, 2016, 07:14:18 PM
That looks like a standard bubble shield with improperly spaced numbers.
The sides on the top of it look a bit flatter than a standard bubble shield, IMO. Maybe I'm just seeing things though...

I agree. This is a standard bubble shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6699939,-73.7413703,3a,34.7y,90.43h,87.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEBQExrsXl-4zcvXfzaanxw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). The sides are entirely curved. Living in New York, I've seen enough bubble shields to know when one is wrong because NYSDOT went crazy with them for a 5-10 year period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 01:02:20 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 07, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
I've seen enough bubble shields to know when one is wrong because NYSDOT went crazy with them for a 5-10 year period.

Same problem here in Washington. Over the last 10 to 15 years, a good majority of WSDOT's three-digit interstate shields have been of the bubble-variety. It's nice to find the normal 3di shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 08, 2016, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 01:02:20 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 07, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
I've seen enough bubble shields to know when one is wrong because NYSDOT went crazy with them for a 5-10 year period.

Same problem here in Washington. Over the last 10 to 15 years, a good majority of WSDOT's three-digit interstate shields have been of the bubble-variety. It's nice to find the normal 3di shield.

NYSDOT stopped in 2011-2012. These (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9892884,-78.9105255,3a,75y,237.5h,89.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8biOk64y6M82-mu9Hx_oHg!2e0!5s20140901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) were some of the last. They did "standard" Series D for a couple of years before switching to Series C in 2014.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 08, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Kinda crazy looking:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0872336,-76.0875188,3a,17.3y,300.16h,97.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb2hRoW-3C1TwzTV5csJkuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 09, 2016, 12:12:43 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 08, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Kinda crazy looking:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0872336,-76.0875188,3a,17.3y,300.16h,97.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb2hRoW-3C1TwzTV5csJkuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Reminds me of this: https://goo.gl/maps/QNzUo4iZkZ12
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 09, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 09, 2016, 12:12:43 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 08, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Kinda crazy looking:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0872336,-76.0875188,3a,17.3y,300.16h,97.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb2hRoW-3C1TwzTV5csJkuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Reminds me of this: https://goo.gl/maps/QNzUo4iZkZ12

I guess it could just depend on where in the country you are, but signs like those (more of Zeffy's type) aren't particularly uncommon in BC...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIdaqU70.png&hash=c903951c6ef737dc5ffe386a0c4e95a66901a980)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 09, 2016, 01:28:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?

I prefer square US route markers to stretched markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 09, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 09, 2016, 01:28:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?

I prefer square US route markers to stretched markers.

So you'd rather squish hard to read Series B numerals into a shield and not be able to read them very far away? Makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 09, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 09, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 09, 2016, 01:28:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?

I prefer square US route markers to stretched markers.

So you'd rather squish hard to read Series B numerals into a shield and not be able to read them very far away? Makes no sense to me.

I'd prefer that over places like Ohio that put Series B in all of their wide shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 09, 2016, 02:25:26 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 09, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 09, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 09, 2016, 01:28:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?

I prefer square US route markers to stretched markers.

So you'd rather squish hard to read Series B numerals into a shield and not be able to read them very far away? Makes no sense to me.

I'd prefer that over places like Ohio that put Series B in all of their wide shields.

Ha. That's just dumb. The shield is wide for a reason. NY's state route shields just make a mockery of things though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 09, 2016, 03:25:25 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 09, 2016, 02:25:26 PM
Ha. That's just dumb. The shield is wide for a reason.

They one thing they did do with the switch to Clearview is make some of the new signs Series C
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 10, 2016, 05:40:10 PM
Lake Ave. and Spruce St., Manchester, New Hampshire:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1605/24944160065_d6846b78be_b.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1483/24917882636_7dac3ff8aa_b.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1593/24917892216_3548555eba_b.jpg)

Despite the "Smile," I saw no evidence of any speed camera.  Could be a false implication of one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on February 10, 2016, 05:57:49 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 10, 2016, 05:40:10 PM
Lake Ave. and Spruce St., Manchester, New Hampshire:
[SMILE YOU ARE ON RADAR]
[SMILE SPEEDING TICKETS AHEAD]

Silly Manchester, you smile for cameras!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 10, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 10, 2016, 08:06:58 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 09, 2016, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 09, 2016, 01:28:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 08, 2016, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 08, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
I've said this before, but I prefer the bubble shield if a wide shield has to be used, because it is the natural elongation of the standard 2di shield. My true preference, though, is the standard shield for both 2di and 3di routes.

Out of curiosity, do you also prefer stretched US-route shields?

I prefer square US route markers to stretched markers.

So you'd rather squish hard to read Series B numerals into a shield and not be able to read them very far away? Makes no sense to me.

I never had any trouble reading them, and they seemed to work fine until Kentucky switched away from them (for the most part) in the 1970s.

I think having all the route markers the same size looks better in terms of sign assembly symmetry.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 10:44:28 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 10, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).

You must not have ever ventured into PennDOT District 6 (SE PA).Just about all of their Clearview signs are just like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on February 11, 2016, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 10, 2016, 05:40:10 PM
Lake Ave. and Spruce St., Manchester, New Hampshire:

...Despite the "Smile," I saw no evidence of any speed camera.  Could be a false implication of one.

I used to live on Lake Avenue in Manchester.  It's one way and straight, so drivers tend to speed.  I'd almost bet the signs are just there to slow them down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 11, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 10:44:28 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 10, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).

You must not have ever ventured into PennDOT District 6 (SE PA).Just about all of their Clearview signs are just like that.

I haven't been down that way since PennDOT started using Clearview. I'm more familiar with central and western PA, which are miserable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 11, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 10:44:28 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 10, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
Wow, when did Illinois follow the [now-defunct] Clearview regulations so well?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

That may be the only perfect Clearview sign I have ever seen. NYSTA does/did everything with it, including numerals (sometimes in shields as well).

You must not have ever ventured into PennDOT District 6 (SE PA).Just about all of their Clearview signs are just like that.

I haven't been down that way since PennDOT started using Clearview. I'm more familiar with central and western PA, which are miserable.

That's putting it nicely. I think they did that to appease the Penn State people that developed the font in the first place. PTC is an even bigger offender. They have BGS at interchanges with control cities in all caps Clearview and you wanna just drive off the road to unsee it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 11, 2016, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 12:41:01 PMPTC is an even bigger offender. They have BGS at interchanges with control cities in all caps Clearview and you wanna just drive off the road to unsee it.
Are you sure you're not thinking about the Interchange names on those PTC BGS'?  Those are the only places I've seen cities/destinations listed in all-caps.  PTC's been using mixed-case lettering for its control cities/destinations for at least 4 decades.

Note: a newly-erected BGS for the Lansdale interchange now features the interchange name in mixed-case lettering (& Clearview).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160211%2Fb04006bbf3a03cff9de4dacc9eb2dbba.jpg&hash=18d217d2c22a8ea4c157153f7fd1e219abcfdc7b)

It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2016, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 12:41:01 PMPTC is an even bigger offender. They have BGS at interchanges with control cities in all caps Clearview and you wanna just drive off the road to unsee it.
Are you sure you're not thinking about the Interchange names on those PTC BGS'?  Those are the only places I've seen cities/destinations listed in all-caps.  PTC's been using mixed-case lettering for its control cities/destinations for at least 4 decades.

Note: a newly-erected BGS for the Lansdale interchange now features the interchange name in mixed-case lettering (& Clearview).

There's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 11, 2016, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160211%2Fb04006bbf3a03cff9de4dacc9eb2dbba.jpg&hash=18d217d2c22a8ea4c157153f7fd1e219abcfdc7b)

It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 11, 2016, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2016, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
[removed]

It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.

George Carlin wouldn't like that (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMkNsMMvrqk)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 11, 2016, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 11, 2016, 02:22:33 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2016, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
[removed]

It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.

George Carlin wouldn't like that (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMkNsMMvrqk)

Cheese tits.  Betcha can't have just one!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 11, 2016, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160211%2Fb04006bbf3a03cff9de4dacc9eb2dbba.jpg&hash=18d217d2c22a8ea4c157153f7fd1e219abcfdc7b)

Sort of reminds me of these signs at Virginia Beach.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fradio-weblogs.com%2F0100097%2Fimages%2F2002%2F10%2F07%2Fno_cussing.jpg&hash=c8a2dbad017e76bfe4ad63cbc7ee75ed27c94b92)

Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 01:35:41 PMThere's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
The only BGS' in that vicinity, I'm aware of, which have all-caps for the control city/destination and/or street name are the ones posted just beyond the Norristown toll plaza (after one leaves the Turnpike) where one has to either turn right for I-476 South of straight towards Plymouth Road; which I agree are hideous.

From the PA Turnpike News thread:
Quote from: Flyer78 on October 28, 2014, 02:55:19 PMI-276 West Ramps to Exit 20/I-476 North
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah180%2Fflyer_78%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141028_131805_zpsmtbcnv23.jpg&hash=44b2aba000efd35d9f99d7c9d183ea34dc568b27) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/flyer_78/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141028_131805_zpsmtbcnv23.jpg.html)


I-276 Exit 333 ALL CAPS exit signs (replaces  Mixed-Case Version) (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1098619,-75.2839088,3a,75y,97.69h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssGlLGzeNAq25KrymBq-qbA!2e0)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah180%2Fflyer_78%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141028_134351_zpslis1dwqs.jpg&hash=4185a88e62dcc842c9d638a7bc5630ae166e0f8a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/flyer_78/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141028_134351_zpslis1dwqs.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 06:40:59 PM
Quote from: Brandon on February 11, 2016, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on February 11, 2016, 01:33:12 PM
This sign makes me want to cuss like a sailor
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160211%2Fb04006bbf3a03cff9de4dacc9eb2dbba.jpg&hash=18d217d2c22a8ea4c157153f7fd1e219abcfdc7b)

It's in Ronnie Van Zant Park near  Green Cove Springs FL.  Named for the late lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd, hailing from Jacksonville Florida

Well, fuck, I guess they really fucking mean it.  They posted the fucker twice.
Fuck yeah mother fucker
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on February 11, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2016, 05:42:21 PM

Sort of reminds me of these signs at Virginia Beach.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fradio-weblogs.com%2F0100097%2Fimages%2F2002%2F10%2F07%2Fno_cussing.jpg&hash=c8a2dbad017e76bfe4ad63cbc7ee75ed27c94b92)

Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 01:35:41 PMThere's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
The only BGS' in that vicinity, I'm aware of, which have all-caps for the control city/destination and/or street name are the ones posted just beyond the Norristown toll plaza (after one leaves the Turnpike) where one has to either turn right for I-476 South of straight towards Plymouth Road; which I agree are hideous.

From the PA Turnpike News thread:
Quote from: Flyer78 on October 28, 2014, 02:55:19 PMI-276 West Ramps to Exit 20/I-476 North
<snip>

And speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:

(https://www.aaroads.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/DSC_4281.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 11, 2016, 08:30:14 PM

Quote from: Alex on February 11, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2016, 05:42:21 PM

Sort of reminds me of these signs at Virginia Beach.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fradio-weblogs.com%2F0100097%2Fimages%2F2002%2F10%2F07%2Fno_cussing.jpg&hash=c8a2dbad017e76bfe4ad63cbc7ee75ed27c94b92)

Quote from: ekt8750 on February 11, 2016, 01:35:41 PMThere's a ramp in the Mid County Interchange that has an option sign for 476 to Allentown and Chester and both legends are full caps Clearview. I'll try and snap a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.
The only BGS' in that vicinity, I'm aware of, which have all-caps for the control city/destination and/or street name are the ones posted just beyond the Norristown toll plaza (after one leaves the Turnpike) where one has to either turn right for I-476 South of straight towards Plymouth Road; which I agree are hideous.

From the PA Turnpike News thread:
Quote from: Flyer78 on October 28, 2014, 02:55:19 PMI-276 West Ramps to Exit 20/I-476 North
<snip>

And speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:

(https://www.aaroads.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/DSC_4281.jpg)

Oh my.  That's unfortunate.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 12, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: Alex on February 11, 2016, 07:50:10 PMAnd speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:

(https://www.aaroads.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/DSC_4281.jpg)
What was the green space next to the US 60 shield intended for?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on February 12, 2016, 10:05:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 09, 2016, 12:12:43 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 08, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Kinda crazy looking:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0872336,-76.0875188,3a,17.3y,300.16h,97.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb2hRoW-3C1TwzTV5csJkuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Reminds me of this: https://goo.gl/maps/QNzUo4iZkZ12

I guess it could just depend on where in the country you are, but signs like those (more of Zeffy's type) aren't particularly uncommon in BC...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIdaqU70.png&hash=c903951c6ef737dc5ffe386a0c4e95a66901a980)

Nova Scotia does the same thing, here's an example from NS 14 at NS 224 near the 102 at Milford:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.0551601,-63.4399811,3a,75y,308.9h,89.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5THnqMhegNqmtKpZbPB_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.0551601,-63.4399811,3a,75y,308.9h,89.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5THnqMhegNqmtKpZbPB_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on February 12, 2016, 10:56:44 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 10, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5968585,-87.7151846,3a,20.9y,45.57h,107.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srN7UwB7DWKRoGbZmtRT07g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Although I cannot lie, at that point it makes more sense to either make it all FHWA or all Clearview. The thicker stroke of the FHWA EM glyphs contrasts with the lighter stroked Clearview 5-W glyphs.

This mixing of the fonts is absurd. It just looks ridiculous. I agree, make it all one font or the other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on February 12, 2016, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 12, 2016, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: Alex on February 11, 2016, 07:50:10 PMAnd speaking of Virginia Beach and hideous all caps Clearview:

(https://www.aaroads.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/DSC_4281.jpg)
What was the green space next to the US 60 shield intended for?

It was more or less a carbon copy from the previous sign (or half a sign) that it replaced:

(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/virginia010/us-013_nb_app_us-060.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 12, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2016, 05:42:21 PM
I-276 Exit 333 ALL CAPS exit signs (replaces  Mixed-Case Version) (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1098619,-75.2839088,3a,75y,97.69h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssGlLGzeNAq25KrymBq-qbA!2e0)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1380.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah180%2Fflyer_78%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141028_134351_zpslis1dwqs.jpg&hash=4185a88e62dcc842c9d638a7bc5630ae166e0f8a) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/flyer_78/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141028_134351_zpslis1dwqs.jpg.html)
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That is the one. Weird part is it's the only set of signs like that in the entire interchange, yet they replaced (most) of the signs all around the same time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 12, 2016, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on February 12, 2016, 12:59:04 PMThat is the one. Weird part is it's the only set of signs like that in the entire interchange, yet they replaced (most) of the signs all around the same time.
Actually, and I commented on such on the other thread, that gantry & BGS' are part of a separate signing contract along I-276 (E-W Turnpike); such is located at the Norristown, not the Mid-County toll plaza.  Those BGS' have oversized control cities/destination legends, smallish route shields (featuring Series C fonts for both I-276 & 476 shields, a plus  :thumbsup: IMHO) and Clearview on everything except the route shield numerals.

The new BGS' erected along I-476 (Northeast Extension) & the Mid-County interchange are from the widening project contract.  Those (for the most part) display the proper applications (& appropriate size) of the Clearview font.

Nonetheless, the all-caps legends on those 2 BGS' are still an oddity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 12, 2016, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on February 12, 2016, 10:05:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 09, 2016, 12:12:43 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 08, 2016, 08:28:04 PM
Kinda crazy looking:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0872336,-76.0875188,3a,17.3y,300.16h,97.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb2hRoW-3C1TwzTV5csJkuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Reminds me of this: https://goo.gl/maps/QNzUo4iZkZ12

I guess it could just depend on where in the country you are, but signs like those (more of Zeffy's type) aren't particularly uncommon in BC...

http://i.imgur.com/IdaqU70.png

Nova Scotia does the same thing, here's an example from NS 14 at NS 224 near the 102 at Milford:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.0551601,-63.4399811,3a,75y,308.9h,89.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5THnqMhegNqmtKpZbPB_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.0551601,-63.4399811,3a,75y,308.9h,89.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5THnqMhegNqmtKpZbPB_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Nova Scotia's roundabout arrows even have the little rounded corners where the individual arrows stick out, just like on the UK roundabout signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on February 12, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
Here's a set of tiny unisigns in Dixon, Illinois, I passed by today: https://goo.gl/maps/Bs3VekmVkoJ2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
I saw this thing while doing a little research on US 23 in Georgia. This sign obviously defies MUTCD-standards, but I'd hate to see it go.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwAEIhL1.jpg&hash=381d26c49fddd7ce7e12621643bced8b5c935b7b)

It's at the south end of Short Street East and Main Street, just west of that area where US 23 runs along the alignment of Main Street and Jeffersonville Road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 14, 2016, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
I saw this thing while doing a little research on US 23 in Georgia. This sign obviously defies MUTCD-standards, but I'd hate to see it go.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwAEIhL1.jpg&hash=381d26c49fddd7ce7e12621643bced8b5c935b7b)

It's at the south end of Short Street East and Main Street, just west of that area where US 23 runs along the alignment of Main Street and Jeffersonville Road.

Looks like they took a lesson from Quebec. That's their standard for that type of sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/4JJE5YDdY4w


I found this one interesting. Ground mounted 'EXIT ONLY', white on yellow border, and non-official use of Clearview (current standards in Alberta is everything Clearview). Arrow looks narrow as well.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FOdd%2520Sign_zpse6drf15l.jpg&hash=9724bc83c28492723ddf66c25891e9950ad1142c)

And nearby, this very interesting seat belt sign:

https://goo.gl/maps/MpeGAEfTmsw
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theFXexpert on February 15, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
I saw this thing while doing a little research on US 23 in Georgia. This sign obviously defies MUTCD-standards, but I'd hate to see it go.

It's at the south end of Short Street East and Main Street, just west of that area where US 23 runs along the alignment of Main Street and Jeffersonville Road.
The city of Bradenton, FL installed those signs at most T intersections adjacent to the river. (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5001032,-82.5851101,3a,75y,23.73h,78.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suteYgeGQlRRkmouLbPHI6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on February 15, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: theFXexpert on February 15, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
I saw this thing while doing a little research on US 23 in Georgia. This sign obviously defies MUTCD-standards, but I'd hate to see it go.

It's at the south end of Short Street East and Main Street, just west of that area where US 23 runs along the alignment of Main Street and Jeffersonville Road.
The city of Bradenton, FL installed those signs at most T intersections adjacent to the river. (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5001032,-82.5851101,3a,75y,23.73h,78.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suteYgeGQlRRkmouLbPHI6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

You can find a few of these signs around the neighborhoods of Minneapolis.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 15, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 15, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: theFXexpert on February 15, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
I saw this thing while doing a little research on US 23 in Georgia. This sign obviously defies MUTCD-standards, but I'd hate to see it go.

It's at the south end of Short Street East and Main Street, just west of that area where US 23 runs along the alignment of Main Street and Jeffersonville Road.
The city of Bradenton, FL installed those signs at most T intersections adjacent to the river. (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5001032,-82.5851101,3a,75y,23.73h,78.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suteYgeGQlRRkmouLbPHI6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

You can find a few of these signs around the neighborhoods of Minneapolis.

Those might not be the MUTCD standard, but they are the Canadian standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 15, 2016, 06:07:07 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 15, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on February 15, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
Quote from: theFXexpert on February 15, 2016, 12:11:01 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2016, 12:17:27 PM
I saw this thing while doing a little research on US 23 in Georgia. This sign obviously defies MUTCD-standards, but I'd hate to see it go.

It's at the south end of Short Street East and Main Street, just west of that area where US 23 runs along the alignment of Main Street and Jeffersonville Road.
The city of Bradenton, FL installed those signs at most T intersections adjacent to the river. (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5001032,-82.5851101,3a,75y,23.73h,78.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suteYgeGQlRRkmouLbPHI6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

You can find a few of these signs around the neighborhoods of Minneapolis.

Those might not be the MUTCD standard, but they are the Quebec standard.

FTFY. Quebec likes to differentiate itself from the rest of Canada by changing many of its signs, like that one posted above.

Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 01, 2016, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 01, 2016, 11:15:12 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2010827,-59.9572041,3a,16.5y,199.51h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_eQ1uTfEMcxsqr0vYxGStA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's Canadian standard. You'll find those commonly throughout the country (except in Quebec). Why a checkerboard is used, I don't know. This one is near my house.

https://goo.gl/maps/reHpx15UTY62
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 15, 2016, 07:59:51 PM
'Cause I really needed to know about that for that long... (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5505193,-90.6095156,3a,31.8y,38.88h,80.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqA6j_aCtVFZ2tF2CCPI5EA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 15, 2016, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 15, 2016, 07:59:51 PM
'Cause I really needed to know about that for that long... (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5505193,-90.6095156,3a,31.8y,38.88h,80.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqA6j_aCtVFZ2tF2CCPI5EA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
In case you need MORE warnings! (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5504238,-90.6095102,3a,75y,350.92h,74.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS41YdNdJir8cyd7JUtgKwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

What a mouthful! (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3147951,-74.6052176,3a,70.8y,176.51h,95.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snMZ9YwCwvQ25XcTgGCiomg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 15, 2016, 08:59:17 PM
^^ The expressway section of US 53 in Wisconsin has such signs every 5 miles, again with the large mileage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 16, 2016, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.

Is it even a shoulder? Seems to me that the shoulder just disappears for a few moments at that point. Lots of states delete the shoulder for a few moments to insert an acceleration lane. I'm guessing they used the term "shoulder" because residents who used the old configuration still think that area is, in fact, a shoulder.

FWIW, acceleration lanes like this are pretty unusual in most regions of Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 11:23:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 16, 2016, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.

Is it even a shoulder? Seems to me that the shoulder just disappears for a few moments at that point. Lots of states delete the shoulder for a few moments to insert an acceleration lane. I'm guessing they used the term "shoulder" because residents who used the old configuration still think that area is, in fact, a shoulder.

FWIW, acceleration lanes like this are pretty unusual in most regions of Washington.

Before the repaving it still kind of looked like a shoulder. Now it looks like a (really cheap) acceleration lane, but the sign still seems to be there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on February 17, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.

It's just that I've never seen a stop sign before an acceleration lane. You either have a stop or (more typically)  yield sign at the merge point with regular travel lanes. And it doesn't make sense in context either. There is no traffic to stop for at the location where the stop sign is. The "acceleration lane" is only available to traffic entering from that road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 17, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 17, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.

It's just that I've never seen a stop sign before an acceleration lane. You either have a stop or (more typically)  yield sign at the merge point with regular travel lanes. And it doesn't make sense in context either. There is no traffic to stop for at the location where the stop sign is. The "acceleration lane" is only available to traffic entering from that road.

I've seen it in New York. Trying to remember where.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 17, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 17, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 17, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.

It's just that I've never seen a stop sign before an acceleration lane. You either have a stop or (more typically)  yield sign at the merge point with regular travel lanes. And it doesn't make sense in context either. There is no traffic to stop for at the location where the stop sign is. The "acceleration lane" is only available to traffic entering from that road.

I've seen it in New York. Trying to remember where.

There are a few around, I'm sure.  I'm betting on the parkways (e.g., Saw Mill, Grand Central, etc.).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 17, 2016, 12:01:29 PM
I have seen this ramp configuration frequently used on divided highways/dual carriageways designed to relaxed standards that allow "compact" interchanges.  Here's an overseas example:

A34 on-slip near Weston-on-the-Green (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8552609,-1.2212338,3a,75y,92.35h,84.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRVGsX9h4TyLXMvuNdqqz0g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

The feature that is unusual at this location on Washington SR 16 is requiring a complete stop before barrelling down the acceleration lane.  The lane is short, however, and cannot easily be extended because of the left-hand curve just past the merge taper.  The stop sign therefore appears to reflect an engineer's judgment that it is better to force entering traffic to wait for a gap than to build on momentum coming out of the turn, keep the throttle to the floor, and hope there is room to merge when the lane ends.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 17, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 17, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 17, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 17, 2016, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on February 16, 2016, 05:57:12 PM
Quote from: kkt on February 16, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 16, 2016, 01:06:29 AM
This just seems like an excuse for poor design (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5271524,-122.68246,3a,15y,49.26h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSDMnN8QWx3UiTmyzLS9cA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

On-the-cheap conversion of 4-lane to interstate.

So do you have to stop before accelerating or after?

Come to a full stop before the limit line, then accelerate along the shoulder and merge.

I was wrong calling this an interstate, it's WA 16.

It's just that I've never seen a stop sign before an acceleration lane. You either have a stop or (more typically)  yield sign at the merge point with regular travel lanes. And it doesn't make sense in context either. There is no traffic to stop for at the location where the stop sign is. The "acceleration lane" is only available to traffic entering from that road.

I've seen it in New York. Trying to remember where.

There are a few around, I'm sure.  I'm betting on the parkways (e.g., Saw Mill, Grand Central, etc.).

The Hutch used to have one heading SB at King Street on the New York side. I'm certain of that because I had cousins that lived a short distance from there and it was quite unusual. It is no longer there.

And I completely forgot about this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0431507,-73.8363536,3a,75y,191.36h,74.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY1shGe34x5Hnx0K1kxefYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) on the ramp from the Thruway SB to the Saw Mill SB. We would sometimes use it to bypass the Yonkers tolls when visiting my grandfather in Park Slope.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 18, 2016, 12:48:17 AM
This style of lane-assignment sign is common in California, and some other states such as Nevada and Washington, but I've never seen one with three lefts and a U-turn arrow. There are more than a few triple lefts in California, but most run parallel to part-time protected rights, so most ban U-turns. This intersection is unique in that the right turns are performed via channelized slip lanes, so the U-turns and right turns do not interfere with one-another, thus a U-turn is permitted from all approaches, including this one.

Roseville, California -- Galleria Blvd @ Roseville Pkwy (https://goo.gl/fP73Eq)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FenxTlta.png&hash=4d025ac6b62c259de528b29103c6e42386d2410f)
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 19, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
Paterson Ave., Little Falls, New Jersey:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1637/25022029322_31a5ded148_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 20, 2016, 07:48:58 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 19, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
Paterson Ave., Little Falls, New Jersey:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1637/25022029322_31a5ded148_b.jpg)

Why save time by using existing signs when you can just waste more time making something custom?
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 20, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
All I know is, by the time I'd even begun to get my head around what was happening in that sign the first time I saw it, I was past both the sign and the intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 20, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
Took a trip down to Cullman, AL today and saw all of these "things":
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1451/25134004616_1748787ff1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kVb)Do Not Stop On Tracks (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kVb) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1460/24864702710_d882b105b7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6QS)Intersection Diagramish (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6QS) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1491/24864702610_7d30e9d19d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6P9)No Thru Traffic (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6P9) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1576/25042081732_ef372da592.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9TdrS)Right Turn on Red Must Yeild (https://flic.kr/p/E9TdrS) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1705/24792641039_ab03dcc1b5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DLQLqg)No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/DLQLqg) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1448/25042084622_8d841b31bd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9TeiG)Do Not Block Drive (https://flic.kr/p/E9TeiG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1441/24529666614_8fcb9d4019.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnAXhs)School Speed Limit 15 (https://flic.kr/p/DnAXhs) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1654/25042084502_b051fdb024.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9TegC)No Parking (https://flic.kr/p/E9TegC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1634/24864702210_cf56c10da6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6Gf)Flooded Road (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6Gf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1685/24864702160_82dd6f0e5b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6Fo)Flooded Road (https://flic.kr/p/DTd6Fo) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1445/25160344355_ca6e08afb3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EkkkNB)Narrow Bridge (https://flic.kr/p/EkkkNB) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1545/25134001166_f781935d8b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1jTG)Ugly, Erroneous Shield (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1jTG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/25042084072_834d2e1156.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9Te9d)Narrow Bridge (https://flic.kr/p/E9Te9d) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1693/25160344155_bc30438af3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EkkkKa)8 Feet (https://flic.kr/p/EkkkKa) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134003436_30f03e8135.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ)Ugly Shields (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Close-up of the above shields:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1677/24529665854_64b9fb251c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnAX4m)Ugly Shields (https://flic.kr/p/DnAX4m) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1564/25042083792_a20072a9aa.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9Te4o)Cross Traffic Doesn&#x27;t Stop (https://flic.kr/p/E9Te4o) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1546/25067090071_515e408fd1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6oy8)One Lane (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6oy8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1609/24792639809_21f0665b1b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DLQL44)DIP (https://flic.kr/p/DLQL44) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1464/25042081442_9e260b4992.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9TdmS)No Litter (https://flic.kr/p/E9TdmS) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1610/24529665314_7c6fc06f03.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnAWU3)Icy Road (https://flic.kr/p/DnAWU3) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1520/25042081312_eff334dff6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9TdjC)Speed Limit 15 (https://flic.kr/p/E9TdjC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1667/24533504143_2e2d593ac5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnWC3K)No Parking (https://flic.kr/p/DnWC3K) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1486/25067089651_3b03a0ddb5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6oqT)Hidden Drive (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6oqT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1647/25067089571_5d9cdf0b20.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6opv)School Speed Limit 15 (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6opv) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Something about this arrow is just a bit off:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1590/24792639179_193e62357e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKSc)IMG_6138 (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKSc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1627/25160342995_32ea899d2f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ekkkpa)Check Speed (https://flic.kr/p/Ekkkpa) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1688/24792637649_78c50af91a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKpP)Hidden Drive (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKpP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1504/24533503603_9c16b1a851.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnWBTr)Narrow Road (https://flic.kr/p/DnWBTr) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134002216_48e5794039.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kcN)Flooded Road (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kcN) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1453/25067089001_e0651f9dbc.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6oeF)Curvy Road Ahead (https://flic.kr/p/Ec6oeF) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1528/24529664394_3a93221aa8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnAWCb)No Speeding (https://flic.kr/p/DnAWCb) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1691/24529664324_98280b6138.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnAWAY)No Speeding (https://flic.kr/p/DnAWAY) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1707/25160342345_0c45727e00.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EkkkcX)Narrow Road (https://flic.kr/p/EkkkcX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
For reference, this is just up the street (like no more than a few hundred feet) from the previous sign:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1453/24864699940_ddced48145.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DTd627)Ahead (https://flic.kr/p/DTd627) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1543/24533502913_1dc2bd1564.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DnWBFx)Hidden Drive (https://flic.kr/p/DnWBFx) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1659/25160342035_df047504de.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ekkk7B)Right Turn Only (https://flic.kr/p/Ekkk7B) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1712/25160341915_a8fbe7749f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ekkk5x)Bike Lane Ahead (https://flic.kr/p/Ekkk5x) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1442/25042081112_40239b02c0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E9Tdgb)Childhaven (https://flic.kr/p/E9Tdgb) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And this one is in Hanceville, AL:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1448/24792637879_22bfaf381e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKtM)Children At Play (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKtM) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And with this, I'm convinced that almost nobody in the state could make a proper sign to save their life.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 20, 2016, 10:53:54 PM
^^
No Thru Traffic is a ecycled sign and can go in that thread too. (edit: Just saw you already did this)

Cross Traffic Does Not Stop:  Arrows are pointing the wrong way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on February 20, 2016, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 20, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
And with this, I'm convinced that almost nobody in the state could make a proper sign to save their life.

This is giving Oklahoma a run for their money in the shittiest signs department. However, Alabama's freeway guide sign quality seems to be much higher in that regard when you compare it to Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 20, 2016, 11:09:57 PM
I think I'd rather have that bold font used above compared to Helvetica. Both are terrible for road signs. Though I can happily report most of the signs here are FHWA or Clearview (real ROAD fonts).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 20, 2016, 11:45:59 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on February 20, 2016, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 20, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
And with this, I'm convinced that almost nobody in the state could make a proper sign to save their life.

This is giving Oklahoma a run for their money in the shittiest signs department. However, Alabama's freeway guide sign quality seems to be much higher in that regard when you compare it to Oklahoma.
Anything maintained by ALDOT or one of the larger cities that isn't broke and their suburbs (such as Huntsville & Madison) seems to be pretty well done here. Other than that, not so much...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 21, 2016, 11:52:30 AM
The font is Franklin Gothic on most of those, if anyone was wondering.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134003436_30f03e8135.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ)

How you resisted leaping from the car and using anything you could to destroy this is beyond me.

I would have put this whole lot in "worst of road signs."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 21, 2016, 12:14:34 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134003436_30f03e8135.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ)

resisted leaping from the car

He seems to be on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 21, 2016, 12:32:17 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 20, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
Took a trip down to Cullman, AL today and saw all of these "things":

All need to be killed with fire...   :pan: :banghead: :ded:

Quote
Something about this arrow is just a bit off:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1590/24792639179_193e62357e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKSc)IMG_6138 (https://flic.kr/p/DLQKSc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

It's a shame that of all these 'gems' with the godawful font, the one photo that appears to use standard fonts has a design error. The arrow has been stretched horizontally (and possibly also compressed slightly vertically) because there should be more black space on the left and right sides.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 01:04:24 PM

Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2016, 12:14:34 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134003436_30f03e8135.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ)

resisted leaping from the car

He seems to be on the sidewalk.

Don't pick apart my vision of complete psychotic breakdown, please.  I'm trying to make a point here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134003436_30f03e8135.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ)

How you resisted leaping from the car and using anything you could to destroy this is beyond me.
I wanted too, but I didn't want to get in trouble with the law. Besides, the only thing that I had that I could do reasonable damage with at the time was my car.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
I would have put this whole lot in "worst of road signs."
I was thinking about it, but I wasn't sure just how many of them would actually qualify for that thread (since some of them appear to just be standard signs with the wrong font), so I decided to make it easier on myself and put them all in this thread.
If anyone wants to cross-post them into that thread, feel free to do so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
This horse has probably been beat enough, but I was looking through my pictures again today and realized that I forgot to include this one. Not too terribly bad (other than the Franklin Gothic font), but I don't know why they put the school bus portion on its own sign:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1540/24807623699_2a71eb982e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DNayeZ)Weight Limits (https://flic.kr/p/DNayeZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 21, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
This horse has probably been beat enough, but I was looking through my pictures again today and realized that I forgot to include this one. Not too terribly bad (other than the Franklin Gothic font), but I don't know why they put the school bus portion on its own sign:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1540/24807623699_2a71eb982e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DNayeZ)Weight Limits (https://flic.kr/p/DNayeZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Better question: Since all the weight limits are "10T" for all vehicle classes, why bother separating out an excessive amount of vehicle classes and icons at all? The sign could have been less than half the size.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 21, 2016, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 21, 2016, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
This horse has probably been beat enough, but I was looking through my pictures again today and realized that I forgot to include this one. Not too terribly bad (other than the Franklin Gothic font), but I don't know why they put the school bus portion on its own sign:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1540/24807623699_2a71eb982e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DNayeZ)Weight Limits (https://flic.kr/p/DNayeZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Better question: Since all the weight limits are "10T" for all vehicle classes, why bother separating out an excessive amount of vehicle classes and icons at all? The sign could have been less than half the size.

And since the signs are for the rated gross weight of the truck, you're not going to find 5 and 6 axle trucks with a weight of 10 tons or fewer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 21, 2016, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 20, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
Took a trip down to Cullman, AL today and saw all of these "things":

Townships are definitely the worst when it comes to bogus fonts. Some towns will use FHWA like normal, or some will just decide for no apparent reason to use another font. For what gain, I have no idea...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: yakra on February 22, 2016, 02:23:57 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
I wanted too, but I didn't want to get in trouble with the law. Besides, the only thing that I had that I could do reasonable damage with at the time was my car.
Well, at least you always have THE FULL WRATH OF THE INTERNET at your disposal.

In other news...
I think this is the first example I've seen of km/h actually being specified on a Canadian speed limit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9793649,-64.1286194,3a,75y,326.75h,88.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVQHkpQ5EdSLR2S_Aro0x1g!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 22, 2016, 03:18:48 AM
Quote from: yakra on February 22, 2016, 02:23:57 AM
In other news...
I think this is the first example I've seen of km/h actually being specified on a Canadian speed limit sign.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9793649,-64.1286194,3a,75y,326.75h,88.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVQHkpQ5EdSLR2S_Aro0x1g!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Depends on the Province. Some, such as British Columbia and Ontario, use "KM/H". Others, such as Alberta and Manitoba (among others), do not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 22, 2016, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 22, 2016, 03:18:48 AM
Quote from: yakra on February 22, 2016, 02:23:57 AM
In other news...
I think this is the first example I've seen of km/h actually being specified on a Canadian speed limit sign.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9793649,-64.1286194,3a,75y,326.75h,88.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVQHkpQ5EdSLR2S_Aro0x1g!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Depends on the Province. Some, such as British Columbia and Ontario, use "KM/H". Others, such as Alberta and Manitoba (among others), do not.

And in the case of Ontario, depends on the municipality within the province. MTO uses "km/h", as does Niagara Region and some other border municipalities. Toronto and Hamilton do not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 22, 2016, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25134003436_30f03e8135.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ei1kyQ)

How you resisted leaping from the car and using anything you could to destroy this is beyond me.
I wanted too, but I didn't want to get in trouble with the law. Besides, the only thing that I had that I could do reasonable damage with at the time was my car.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 21, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
I would have put this whole lot in "worst of road signs."
I was thinking about it, but I wasn't sure just how many of them would actually qualify for that thread (since some of them appear to just be standard signs with the wrong font), so I decided to make it easier on myself and put them all in this thread.
If anyone wants to cross-post them into that thread, feel free to do so.

I think that 5-piece Cullman assembly has been posted in the Worst Of Road Signs a few times. Usually, Alabama state route signs are fairly consistent, but a few uglies show up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 22, 2016, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 22, 2016, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 22, 2016, 03:18:48 AM
Quote from: yakra on February 22, 2016, 02:23:57 AM
In other news...
I think this is the first example I've seen of km/h actually being specified on a Canadian speed limit sign.
(https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9793649,-64.1286194,3a,75y,326.75h,88.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVQHkpQ5EdSLR2S_Aro0x1g!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Depends on the Province. Some, such as British Columbia and Ontario, use "KM/H". Others, such as Alberta and Manitoba (among others), do not.

And in the case of Ontario, depends on the municipality within the province. MTO uses "km/h", as does Niagara Region and some other border municipalities. Toronto and Hamilton do not.

Usually a 'km/h' plaque is posted below a speed limit on signs located near borders (US obviously, and provincial borders). And sometimes, there's this:
https://goo.gl/maps/oUPFSqxmaW42

Just to remind people I guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on February 22, 2016, 11:22:35 PM
Is it just me, or is this completely meaningless? (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0338546,-117.0735248,3a,62.8y,132.95h,80.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suxDSMrSH65sa_vyLyh67Hg!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 22, 2016, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 22, 2016, 11:22:35 PM
Is it just me, or is this completely meaningless? (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0338546,-117.0735248,3a,62.8y,132.95h,80.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suxDSMrSH65sa_vyLyh67Hg!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Not meaningless in a place with designated truck routes. Signs like that are very common in New York, where there is a large nework of state-recognized truck routes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 23, 2016, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 22, 2016, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 22, 2016, 11:22:35 PM
Is it just me, or is this completely meaningless? (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0338546,-117.0735248,3a,62.8y,132.95h,80.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suxDSMrSH65sa_vyLyh67Hg!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Not meaningless in a place with designated truck routes. Signs like that are very common in New York, where there is a large nework of state-recognized truck routes.

The angle of it, though, is intriguing.  If I were a truck on that street facing that sign, wouldn't it be indicating that I wasn't on the truck route yet?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 23, 2016, 08:50:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 23, 2016, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 22, 2016, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 22, 2016, 11:22:35 PM
Is it just me, or is this completely meaningless? (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0338546,-117.0735248,3a,62.8y,132.95h,80.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suxDSMrSH65sa_vyLyh67Hg!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Not meaningless in a place with designated truck routes. Signs like that are very common in New York, where there is a large nework of state-recognized truck routes.

The angle of it, though, is intriguing.  If I were a truck on that street facing that sign, wouldn't it be indicating that I wasn't on the truck route yet?

Not really.  It's indicating which way to go.  No different than approaching an intersection where a route sign points you in different directions for the route...it doesn't mean you're not on that route yet.

The 3 arrow truck route signs seem a bit meaningless at first, but it's also reassurance that the truck is permitted on all legs of the intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on February 24, 2016, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?

"Excuse me, officer, but if you get out and measure that line, it's 18 1/8 inches."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 25, 2016, 06:18:08 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9460482,-76.2588005,3a,75y,78.86h,88.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shytLbEGhtk_4RvCSUZXkWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This one here on US 460 EB in Norfolk at the VA 168 interchange.  I am guessing the downward arrows for the US 60 and I-64 shields were added as some motorists must of been turning left prematurely into the side street at this intersection.

Nonetheless, I love these shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 26, 2016, 03:00:30 PM
NJDOT put this BGS up last weekend, at the final exit prior to the Trenton Tunnel on NJ 29 North.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0226161349e.jpg&hash=20d2039cf417e8b0216765eecb7068d6e25857a4) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0226161349e.jpg.html)

(Former sign: https://goo.gl/maps/zZEZ1EWwrht )

FWIW, Duck Island doesn't really have anyhing to do with ducks, and isn't an island. Its mostly home to a PSE&G generation station and Trenton Sewer Dept. You don't realize it because of the trees, but by the time you reach these areas, you actually backtracked to an area just west of I-295.

(apologies for the blur)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 26, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 26, 2016, 03:00:30 PM
NJDOT put this BGS up last weekend, at the final exit prior to the Trenton Tunnel on NJ 29 North.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0226161349e.jpg&hash=20d2039cf417e8b0216765eecb7068d6e25857a4) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0226161349e.jpg.html)

(Former sign: https://goo.gl/maps/zZEZ1EWwrht )

FWIW, Duck Island doesn't really have anyhing to do with ducks, and isn't an island. Its mostly home to a PSE&G generation station and Trenton Sewer Dept. You don't realize it because of the trees, but by the time you reach these areas, you actually backtracked to an area just west of I-295.

(apologies for the blur)

That looks like something from Australia.

https://goo.gl/maps/9QMCXnkJjFC2 - This one is a mouthful to read, and could very easily be replaced with symbols.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on February 26, 2016, 05:30:57 PM
This sign exists solely because the road ahead curves slightly. 
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906609,-72.6263411,3a,75y,29.48h,89.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdhOvh9kbKYPYxbA52FITCg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906609,-72.6263411,3a,75y,29.48h,89.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdhOvh9kbKYPYxbA52FITCg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Typical CONNDOT error:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7908069,-72.472204,3a,90y,205.18h,67.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1wwS2ZXIoeoHQt1R-7s0zA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D1wwS2ZXIoeoHQt1R-7s0zA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.898621%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7908069,-72.472204,3a,90y,205.18h,67.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1wwS2ZXIoeoHQt1R-7s0zA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D1wwS2ZXIoeoHQt1R-7s0zA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.898621%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656)

The only flashing warning sign I've ever come across:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6698151,-70.0971507,3a,75y,106.54h,75.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVPmgJfMORPzz-OTSsRQYqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6698151,-70.0971507,3a,75y,106.54h,75.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVPmgJfMORPzz-OTSsRQYqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Sign is OK, flashing arrow takes the cake.  I've never seen it illuminated.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0512157,-70.1186603,3a,30y,337.32h,87.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sla63yhoosrwgN-xxDtW15g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0512157,-70.1186603,3a,30y,337.32h,87.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sla63yhoosrwgN-xxDtW15g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Seriously?
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8072154,-71.3405768,3a,15y,159.56h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz4JvhgVAR5qLKL6pwyzERg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8072154,-71.3405768,3a,15y,159.56h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz4JvhgVAR5qLKL6pwyzERg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 26, 2016, 06:01:07 PM
The only flashing warning sign I've ever come across:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6698151,-70.0971507,3a,75y,106.54h,75.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVPmgJfMORPzz-OTSsRQYqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6698151,-70.0971507,3a,75y,106.54h,75.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVPmgJfMORPzz-OTSsRQYqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
[/quote]

Take a trip out to Albany at some point. NYSDOT Region 1 loves these things. Most are on expressways and ramps, but there are at least 2 on surface roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 26, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0800918,-73.7860766,3a,37.5y,151.1h,85.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soR8apo9zBV6YlfnvSgDoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like how US 9 gets individual direction shields but NY 50 gets only one.  Both routes are concurrent you would figure some consistency here, but NYSDOT thought otherwise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on February 26, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?

Or "Illegal to cross double yellow line?  Or perhaps go more extreme and put some flexible delineators (similar to the ones at the intersection) on the centerline?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 26, 2016, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 26, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0800918,-73.7860766,3a,37.5y,151.1h,85.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soR8apo9zBV6YlfnvSgDoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like how US 9 gets individual direction shields but NY 50 gets only one.  Both routes are concurrent you would figure some consistency here, but NYSDOT thought otherwise.

NYSDOT put up the assembly, but it's city-maintained, so that may have had something to do with it. Likely to avoid the visual impact of a 3-high assembly in a historic district. I do question the lack of a trailblazer for NY 9P, as it begins half a block to the south.

Quote from: Revive 755 on February 26, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?

Or "Illegal to cross double yellow line?  Or perhaps go more extreme and put some flexible delineators (similar to the ones at the intersection) on the centerline?

Or do what every other state does and let the "no left turn" signs speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 26, 2016, 11:47:20 PM
Quote from: cl94 on February 26, 2016, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 26, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?

Or "Illegal to cross double yellow line?  Or perhaps go more extreme and put some flexible delineators (similar to the ones at the intersection) on the centerline?

Or do what every other state does and let the "no left turn" signs speak for themselves.

WSDOT has been using the single, wide, yellow line for some years now, in multiple locations. Rather than post "no left turn" signs at every location, it's easier to install reminder signs such as the one seen here to help solidify the meaning of the line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 27, 2016, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 26, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/9QMCXnkJjFC2 - This one is a mouthful to read, and could very easily be replaced with symbols.

In Colorado, we shorten it to OPEN RANGE.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 27, 2016, 07:42:37 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 26, 2016, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 26, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0800918,-73.7860766,3a,37.5y,151.1h,85.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soR8apo9zBV6YlfnvSgDoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like how US 9 gets individual direction shields but NY 50 gets only one.  Both routes are concurrent you would figure some consistency here, but NYSDOT thought otherwise.

NYSDOT put up the assembly, but it's city-maintained, so that may have had something to do with it. Likely to avoid the visual impact of a 3-high assembly in a historic district. I do question the lack of a trailblazer for NY 9P, as it begins half a block to the south.

Quote from: Revive 755 on February 26, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?

Or "Illegal to cross double yellow line?  Or perhaps go more extreme and put some flexible delineators (similar to the ones at the intersection) on the centerline?

Or do what every other state does and let the "no left turn" signs speak for themselves.
NY 9P you say has no signage here, look at the signage on GSV where it turns north on Circular Street from Union Avenue.  The four lane arterial ends at the two lane side street, but has no trailblazing to get you to its western terminus via Circular and even Spring as the intersection of Circular and Spring is unsigned following it NB.

The weird signage on NY 29 at least informs you of NY 29 turning left to change alignments, but NY 9P has motorists clueless of what they are to do at the end of Union Avenue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on February 27, 2016, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 27, 2016, 01:28:53 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on February 26, 2016, 04:34:32 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/9QMCXnkJjFC2 - This one is a mouthful to read, and could very easily be replaced with symbols.

In Colorado, we shorten it to OPEN RANGE.

In Montana, at least, marking it open range has a specific legal definition which brings with it legal responsibilities for the driver that don't exist if it's not considered open range.

IMO, this sign doesn't imply that the driver is entering open range, but a part of the road where there is a heavier concentration of wildlife and livestock. Perhaps the better way is one of the wildlife crossing signs (W11-3, W11-16, W11-18, W11-20, or W11-21 in the US MUTCD) and one of the livestock crossing signs (W11-4 is common here in Montana).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 12:22:07 AM
Signals have since been replaced, but new signs identical to these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7088795,-73.6631031,3a,21y,336.56h,94.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sjdi9jMyKgJFrAdXIxflQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) went up in Troy on NY 66 at the intersection with Spring Avenue/former NY 154
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 29, 2016, 12:55:33 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 12:22:07 AM
Signals have since been replaced, but new signs identical to these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7088795,-73.6631031,3a,21y,336.56h,94.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sjdi9jMyKgJFrAdXIxflQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) went up in Troy on NY 66 at the intersection with Spring Avenue/former NY 154

Any idea whether Pawling Ave operates with split-phasing? I'm wondering because, if the cars moved up to the "waiting zone" (the "keep left" lane, in this case), they wouldn't be able to tell when the light goes to yellow, so as to know when it's safe to complete their maneuver.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 01:33:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 29, 2016, 12:55:33 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 12:22:07 AM
Signals have since been replaced, but new signs identical to these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7088795,-73.6631031,3a,21y,336.56h,94.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sjdi9jMyKgJFrAdXIxflQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) went up in Troy on NY 66 at the intersection with Spring Avenue/former NY 154

Any idea whether Pawling Ave operates with split-phasing? I'm wondering because, if the cars moved up to the "waiting zone" (the "keep left" lane, in this case), they wouldn't be able to tell when the light goes to yellow, so as to know when it's safe to complete their maneuver.

Pawling Avenue / NY 66 does not operate with split phasing and it is currently a 2-phase signal. New lights went in within the past year and a set of McCain programmable visibility signals was added to the far side facing the end of the left turn lanes. It is worth noting that the far side signals only show green (at least as far as I have seen). It isn't too big of an issue, as there isn't much traffic from the north (most cars going that far south cut down to Spring in downtown Troy to avoid the traffic on NY 2) and left turns are banned off of Spring Avenue.

The rough terrain creates a lot of intersections like this. Think of a smaller version of Pittsburgh or Seattle, except most of the major roads like this probably date back well over 300 years, long before there was any mass vehicular traffic. Most don't have signage that is this clear. This intersection at the far NE corner of the city (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7848308,-73.6540626,3a,30.5y,290.51h,91.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scYivn0d89C_9gAB8hhJSVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) has similar signage. The signals themselves are an oddity because double permissive lefts are very rare in New York and I cannot think of another off the top of my head that doesn't involve 2 one-way streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 29, 2016, 07:48:55 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 01:33:33 AM
The signals themselves are an oddity because double permissive lefts are very rare in New York and I cannot think of another off the top of my head that doesn't involve 2 one-way streets.

Not a double permissive left, but I hate this setup:

https://goo.gl/maps/i7gLzt1Lxh22

When the lights show a green ball instead of the protected left, you have the situation where a car may want to turn left from that middle lane.  Although the right lane is provided to go around such cars (which also merges back in just beyond the intersection), it still annoys people when a car sits there to wait to be able to turn left when it's a green ball.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 29, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 29, 2016, 07:48:55 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 01:33:33 AM
The signals themselves are an oddity because double permissive lefts are very rare in New York and I cannot think of another off the top of my head that doesn't involve 2 one-way streets.

Not a double permissive left, but I hate this setup:

https://goo.gl/maps/i7gLzt1Lxh22

When the lights show a green ball instead of the protected left, you have the situation where a car may want to turn left from that middle lane.  Although the right lane is provided to go around such cars (which also merges back in just beyond the intersection), it still annoys people when a car sits there to wait to be able to turn left when it's a green ball.

This kind of setup should use split phasing, to avoid the situation you describe.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 29, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 29, 2016, 07:48:55 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 01:33:33 AM
The signals themselves are an oddity because double permissive lefts are very rare in New York and I cannot think of another off the top of my head that doesn't involve 2 one-way streets.

Not a double permissive left, but I hate this setup:

https://goo.gl/maps/i7gLzt1Lxh22

When the lights show a green ball instead of the protected left, you have the situation where a car may want to turn left from that middle lane.  Although the right lane is provided to go around such cars (which also merges back in just beyond the intersection), it still annoys people when a car sits there to wait to be able to turn left when it's a green ball.

https://goo.gl/maps/vJGYquLtshk

If you advanced the GSV one click forward, you would've noticed the green arrows, meaning the green ball situation you worried about doesn't exist here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 29, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: Rothman on February 29, 2016, 07:48:55 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 29, 2016, 01:33:33 AM
The signals themselves are an oddity because double permissive lefts are very rare in New York and I cannot think of another off the top of my head that doesn't involve 2 one-way streets.

Not a double permissive left, but I hate this setup:

https://goo.gl/maps/i7gLzt1Lxh22

When the lights show a green ball instead of the protected left, you have the situation where a car may want to turn left from that middle lane.  Although the right lane is provided to go around such cars (which also merges back in just beyond the intersection), it still annoys people when a car sits there to wait to be able to turn left when it's a green ball.

https://goo.gl/maps/vJGYquLtshk

If you advanced the GSV one click forward, you would've noticed the green arrows, meaning the green ball situation you worried about doesn't exist here.

He is well aware of that. Issue is that this intersection does not have split phasing, so there's a red left arrow and a green up arrow showing at the same time. Region 1 loved doing this in the 90s, even though it is a clear violation of the MUTCD. Go to the left (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7127888,-73.8711855,3a,75y,235.22h,71.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVgPzhZzqTG0T0xyGVKbahg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and you can see the issue, except the left turn has green and straight has red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on March 01, 2016, 07:49:18 AM
Quote from: kkt on February 24, 2016, 09:27:32 PM
Quote from: jay8g on February 24, 2016, 08:17:17 PM
WSDOT has put these (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7990636,-122.5827052,3a,15y,269.05h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skqFRuz-8fTE-MN_UhxzZfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) up in a few places, and they always irritate me. They seem overly technical to the point of being incomprehensible. Wouldn't it be better to just say "Illegal to cross wide yellow line" or, what they really mean, no left turn?

"Excuse me, officer, but if you get out and measure that line, it's 18 1/8 inches."


Hmmm, good. Maybe when you explain it to the judge, he may listen! License, registration, and proof of insurance, please. Oh and press hard, 3 copies.  :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 01, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
Found this on street view in Hopewell, NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3873031,-74.771732,3a,19y,334.3h,91.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saAxiq6dGu4bcVrccGYbBZw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on March 01, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
From the same state as above: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0128454,-74.7960524,3a,33.4y,242.06h,82.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syy2WCfJ7b46zZ6NJJsUL9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

How does one get away with that approaching an NJDOT-maintained road? I know the governor said North Wildwood doesn't flood, but this assembly needs to be floated out to sea and sunk at the Mariana Trench.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on March 02, 2016, 10:35:22 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on March 01, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
From the same state as above: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0128454,-74.7960524,3a,33.4y,242.06h,82.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syy2WCfJ7b46zZ6NJJsUL9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

How does one get away with that approaching an NJDOT-maintained road? I know the governor said North Wildwood doesn't flood, but this assembly needs to be floated out to sea and sunk at the Mariana Trench.

I was looking around that area and noticed this...seems rather unusual for a surface street without interchanges to have a sign reading "next X exits", let alone "next 26 exits!"

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0086008,-74.7939998,3a,37.5y,233.97h,77.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sohwg5yXsYVSC6z2qGq9S2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 02, 2016, 12:49:57 PM
Taunton, MA:

MA 140 at MA 24 interchange (where 140 transitions from an expressway to a conventional street) - BGS featuring an exit tab for a left turn (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8712209,-71.0545302,3a,75y,124.62h,88.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5BwzIeO5VrSMSibAgFO0jQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 02, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.

Heh.  I never thought of that situation before.  I prefer this left turn arrow on NY 470, though:

https://goo.gl/maps/ntE1R8nssK22
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 02, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.

Heh.  I never thought of that situation before.  I prefer this left turn arrow on NY 470, though:

https://goo.gl/maps/ntE1R8nssK22

If GSV had the new "ugly" sign just west of the bridge, I would have posted a link that showed the arrow and the shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 02, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 02, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Heh.  I never thought of that situation before.  I prefer this left turn arrow on NY 470, though:

https://goo.gl/maps/ntE1R8nssK22
A bit off topic, but I like the signals there, especially that doghouse and the worded ICC pedestrian signals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 02, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 02, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
Heh.  I never thought of that situation before.  I prefer this left turn arrow on NY 470, though:

https://goo.gl/maps/ntE1R8nssK22
A bit off topic, but I like the signals there, especially that doghouse and the worded ICC pedestrian signals.

Cohoes has a bunch of stuff like that. Except for NY 787 and Mohawk Street (which had signals installed by NYSDOT), you'll see a lot of old and worded signals. What's even more interesting is that most (if not all) of the old signals were retrofitted with LEDs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 02, 2016, 02:59:36 PM
How often is the W12-1 sign posted this low? Madison, WI seems to have them all over the place. It's a dead-ringer for Australia/NZ:

EDIT: Looks like Wisconsin does this quite often. How interesting! At least to me.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXr1Y9mv.png&hash=bd3af9180cf68a8ff425b03b7195bd57a84dd79f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on March 02, 2016, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.
There's a few of those white outline shields along NY 259 in North Chili. Looks rather strange.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1129309,-77.8035868,3a,15y,194.26h,83.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYRMD-c4nWIBmo7p_D4ASHw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 02, 2016, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2016, 02:59:36 PM
How often is the W12-1 sign posted this low? Madison, WI seems to have them all over the place. It's a dead-ringer for Australia/NZ:

EDIT: Looks like Wisconsin does this quite often. How interesting! At least to me.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXr1Y9mv.png&hash=bd3af9180cf68a8ff425b03b7195bd57a84dd79f)
It is W12-1D and WisDOT standard is a 2' mounting height: http://wisconsindot.gov/rdwy/sdd/sd-15c27.pdf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 02, 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 02, 2016, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2016, 02:59:36 PM
How often is the W12-1 sign posted this low? Madison, WI seems to have them all over the place. It's a dead-ringer for Australia/NZ:

EDIT: Looks like Wisconsin does this quite often. How interesting! At least to me.

http://i.imgur.com/Xr1Y9mv.png

It is W12-1D and WisDOT standard is a 2' mounting height: http://wisconsindot.gov/rdwy/sdd/sd-15c27.pdf

That's fantastic. Add that to the list of things I love about Wisconsin's intersections:

- Near-side (and mast-mounded) signals
- Channelized left and right turns
- Transverse crosswalk markings
- Pedestrian-friendly slip lanes
- 2' mounted W12-1(D) double arrow signs
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 03, 2016, 01:02:08 PM
Another odd sign in NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2381218,-74.0066193,3a,15.2y,316.25h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1seMyUnCr_O_PY1kB4mDh7_Q!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on March 03, 2016, 02:50:30 PM
Here's an odd one. This circular speed limit sign is on the campus of Johnson County Community College in Overland Park, Kansas.

https://goo.gl/maps/oYQRaeGafVw

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 03, 2016, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: cappicard on March 03, 2016, 02:50:30 PM
Here's an odd one. This circular speed limit sign is on the campus of Johnson County Community College in Overland Park, Kansas.

https://goo.gl/maps/oYQRaeGafVw

Riiga would like that one.

Here's mine:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5695/19974636374_51322781e7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wr6euj)
AB 22 Southbound Distance Sign to Multiple Locations (https://flic.kr/p/wr6euj) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

Five destinations on a distance sign. How common is this (or is this against the MUTCD in the US?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on March 03, 2016, 10:20:35 PM
More common in urban areas, but even this is a bit much.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on March 04, 2016, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 03, 2016, 10:19:04 PM
Five destinations on a distance sign. How common is this (or is this against the MUTCD in the US?)
Quote from: cappicard on March 03, 2016, 10:20:35 PM
More common in urban areas, but even this is a bit much.

I can't say that I've seen more than three on a sign. Three is rather common in rural areas. I-49 northbound between Alexandria and Natchitoches signs the distance to the next exit, Natchitoches and Shreveport.

I would guess that there isn't much on this highway, and the intent is to help the motorist plan their stops for services. I take it that many motorists will transfer to Highway 2 to get to other destinations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 04, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
Pretty sure the MUTCD discourages more than two destinations and bans more than three.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 04, 2016, 09:15:51 PM
"Child Watch" sign in Gadsden, AL:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1604/25395361552_a74eca85e7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EG6Sef)Child Watch (https://flic.kr/p/EG6Sef) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1676/25146324559_47a7d0b838.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ej6ucZ)Child Watch (https://flic.kr/p/Ej6ucZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This wasn't the only one I saw, and all of the ones I saw were perpendicular to the road like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 04, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 03, 2016, 01:02:08 PM
Another odd sign in NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2381218,-74.0066193,3a,15.2y,316.25h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1seMyUnCr_O_PY1kB4mDh7_Q!2e0

Very common in most of the towns here, especially near outdoors-y areas. I think the "CHILDREN AT PLAY" sign that doesn't seem to be as popular anymore did a better job then "WATCH CHILDREN" (that sounds kind of pedophile-ish).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 04, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 04, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 03, 2016, 01:02:08 PM
Another odd sign in NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2381218,-74.0066193,3a,15.2y,316.25h,84.01t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1seMyUnCr_O_PY1kB4mDh7_Q!2e0

Very common in most of the towns here, especially near outdoors-y areas. I think the "CHILDREN AT PLAY" sign that doesn't seem to be as popular anymore did a better job then "WATCH CHILDREN" (that sounds kind of pedophile-ish).
And it also makes a whole lot more sense than "Child Watch".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: yakra on March 05, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.
Reminded me of ME203, also zero sections maintained by state. LOL at the teeny tiny route marker. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4851997,-69.1112773,3a,41.1y,339.28h,81.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl9x7kRqBTmvHhQvW87hWtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

In other news: I've seen "Jake brakes prohibited" before, but... "Jacob brakes" (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9676554,-94.3181051,3a,38.2y,19.17h,81.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW6Rto1-sMOA9G8-Z8kth9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on March 05, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: yakra on March 05, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.
Reminded me of ME203, also zero sections maintained by state. LOL at the teeny tiny route marker. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4851997,-69.1112773,3a,41.1y,339.28h,81.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl9x7kRqBTmvHhQvW87hWtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

In other news: I've seen "Jake brakes prohibited" before, but... "Jacob brakes" (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9676554,-94.3181051,3a,38.2y,19.17h,81.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW6Rto1-sMOA9G8-Z8kth9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)?

Yep....

Apparently Jacobs is the manufacturer of said exhaust braking systems:
http://www.jacobsvehiclesystems.com/technology/exhaust-brakes/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 05, 2016, 02:57:35 PM
Universities man. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7965357,-77.8687388,3a,22.3y,158.63h,89.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suw4SJjopo19K0f-d_DLJVQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 05, 2016, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 05, 2016, 02:57:35 PM
Universities man. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7965357,-77.8687388,3a,22.3y,158.63h,89.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suw4SJjopo19K0f-d_DLJVQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Many universities have custom signage:

https://goo.gl/maps/1c7fGtag2Mo
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 05, 2016, 03:33:27 PM
Just found this piece of work while browsing GMSV. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8511073,-114.6094405,3a,41.2y,249.6h,77.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svbF6YErBgkrY9kD8IGePcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 05, 2016, 10:54:38 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8527551,-76.2751164,3a,37.5y,358.16h,114.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sITCmxw_JKJsKtD7QMEw8fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This one here in Norfolk is very confusing.  It might even qualify for the department of redundancy department, but I though this would be considered bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 05, 2016, 11:03:07 PM
As of this afternoon, this old CR sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9775936,-74.0911925,3a,17.8y,202.81h,78.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swEv4AVTqephoZPWjTzzUTA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along NY 28A is still standing. About 1/2 mile east of where NYCDOT maintenance stops.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 06, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Posted in this thread because there doesn't seem to be a more appropriate one. Stanley Roberts of KRON-4 TV in San Francisco retweeted this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F4d09853f1d6018ad7cc109be6339c910_zpsqrpmf7ma.jpg&hash=0eb719bb443663f9b7f20860b8d2031ec099d65e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 06, 2016, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 06, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
Posted in this thread because there doesn't seem to be a more appropriate one. Stanley Roberts of KRON-4 TV in San Francisco retweeted this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F4d09853f1d6018ad7cc109be6339c910_zpsqrpmf7ma.jpg&hash=0eb719bb443663f9b7f20860b8d2031ec099d65e)
Too bad I can't time travel now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on March 07, 2016, 01:49:59 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on March 05, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: yakra on March 05, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.
Reminded me of ME203, also zero sections maintained by state. LOL at the teeny tiny route marker. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4851997,-69.1112773,3a,41.1y,339.28h,81.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl9x7kRqBTmvHhQvW87hWtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

In other news: I've seen "Jake brakes prohibited" before, but... "Jacob brakes" (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9676554,-94.3181051,3a,38.2y,19.17h,81.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW6Rto1-sMOA9G8-Z8kth9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)?

Yep....

Apparently Jacobs is the manufacturer of said exhaust braking systems:
http://www.jacobsvehiclesystems.com/technology/exhaust-brakes/

If the sign doesn't say "Jake Brakes Prohibited" then it should properly say "Jacobs Brakes Prohibited." The name of the company is Jacobs, not Jacob. In some other thread we covered this before, and Jacobs Vehicle Systems strongly objects to signs like these that seem to prohibit their product specifically, without mentioning other brands of compression release engine brakes. As a result, many jurisdictions have changed their signs to read something like "Engine Brakes Prohibited" or "No Compression Brakes." The Indiana Toll Road changed their signs a few years ago in the Portage area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on March 07, 2016, 11:16:01 PM
No left turn on a lane assignment sign... (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6505493,-122.3501131,3a,17.5y,101.05h,114.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQfffT4eN3zXmTJGMoFL92A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) with the street name included too! This whole intersection setup is a bit confusing...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on March 08, 2016, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: jay8g on March 07, 2016, 11:16:01 PM
No left turn on a lane assignment sign... (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6505493,-122.3501131,3a,17.5y,101.05h,114.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQfffT4eN3zXmTJGMoFL92A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) with the street name included too! This whole intersection setup is a bit confusing...

I love the distance sign pole though. Noogie: Top of Head (https://goo.gl/maps/LUuwma7gvgJ2).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.staticflickr.com%2F1711%2F24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg&hash=214d016d7ba423108b0d8029674c1223fe96c2b0) (http://flic.kr/p/E5siqW)
Int29nRoad-Exit13Upcoming-TwoLeft29TwoRightMCI (http://flic.kr/p/E5siqW) by formulanone (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.staticflickr.com%2F1711%2F24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg&hash=214d016d7ba423108b0d8029674c1223fe96c2b0) (http://flic.kr/p/E5siqW)
Int29nRoad-Exit13Upcoming-TwoLeft29TwoRightMCI (http://flic.kr/p/E5siqW) by formulanone (http://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmb9cnx__hA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on March 08, 2016, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: theline on March 07, 2016, 01:49:59 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on March 05, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: yakra on March 05, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
Quote from: cl94 on March 02, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Coming from one of the only state routes in the country with zero sections maintained by a state agency, NY 470's shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7722086,-73.727014,3a,15.4y,104.56h,86.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrvV9eX-RUgER03AtI1IJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There are a bunch of these. Signs are almost square and there's a white outline.
Reminded me of ME203, also zero sections maintained by state. LOL at the teeny tiny route marker. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4851997,-69.1112773,3a,41.1y,339.28h,81.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl9x7kRqBTmvHhQvW87hWtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

In other news: I've seen "Jake brakes prohibited" before, but... "Jacob brakes" (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9676554,-94.3181051,3a,38.2y,19.17h,81.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW6Rto1-sMOA9G8-Z8kth9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)?

Yep....

Apparently Jacobs is the manufacturer of said exhaust braking systems:
http://www.jacobsvehiclesystems.com/technology/exhaust-brakes/

If the sign doesn't say "Jake Brakes Prohibited" then it should properly say "Jacobs Brakes Prohibited." The name of the company is Jacobs, not Jacob. In some other thread we covered this before, and Jacobs Vehicle Systems strongly objects to signs like these that seem to prohibit their product specifically, without mentioning other brands of compression release engine brakes. As a result, many jurisdictions have changed their signs to read something like "Engine Brakes Prohibited" or "No Compression Brakes." The Indiana Toll Road changed their signs a few years ago in the Portage area.

The reason most of these signs state 'No Jake Brakes" (or similar text) is because "Jake Brake" has become common slang for engine brakes on trucks, regardless of manufacturer.  Like how people still call a copy machine a 'Xerox machine', or how people used to call video recorders a Betamax.

However, it is important to point out that every such sign posted, whether it says Jake Brake or Engine Braking, is totally unenforcable.  Engine braking systems are mandated equipment per FMCSA regulations.  As such, no state or municipality can legally enact a law, rule, or ordinance restricting or prohibiting their use.

MassDOT's response to issues about noise from engine braking on freeway off ramps adjacent to residental areas is to post signs on the ramp reading "Truckers Test Your Service Brakes."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?
Ignoring the caption, what's exiting here? There's also conflicting messages ("Right lane exit only" and "Right lanes exit only"), and US 71 is ignored.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?

Ignoring the caption, what's exiting here? There's also conflicting messages ("Right lane exit only" and "Right lanes exit only"), and US 71 is ignored.

Not sure what you mean by "conflicting messages" (it says "right lanes", which is correct here), but not every sign needs all possible information listed. This sign does its job well: it tells you exactly which lanes exit, and which lanes do not. Other information is provided on the overhead gantry ahead, and more than likely by a previous sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 08, 2016, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?

Ignoring the caption, what's exiting here? There's also conflicting messages ("Right lane exit only" and "Right lanes exit only"), and US 71 is ignored.

Not sure what you mean by "conflicting messages" (it says "right lanes", which is correct here), but not every sign needs all possible information listed. This sign does its job well: it tells you exactly which lanes exit, and which lanes do not. Other information is provided on the overhead gantry ahead, and more than likely by a previous sign.

The sign ahead of that one says "right lane exit only", singular.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:59:14 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 08, 2016, 08:58:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?

Ignoring the caption, what's exiting here? There's also conflicting messages ("Right lane exit only" and "Right lanes exit only"), and US 71 is ignored.

Not sure what you mean by "conflicting messages" (it says "right lanes", which is correct here), but not every sign needs all possible information listed. This sign does its job well: it tells you exactly which lanes exit, and which lanes do not. Other information is provided on the overhead gantry ahead, and more than likely by a previous sign.

The sign ahead of that one says "right lane exit only", singular.

As I see now. Didn't know we were discussing that sign, however.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on March 08, 2016, 09:53:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?

Ignoring the caption, what's exiting here? There's also conflicting messages ("Right lane exit only" and "Right lanes exit only"), and US 71 is ignored.

Not sure what you mean by "conflicting messages" (it says "right lanes", which is correct here), but not every sign needs all possible information listed. This sign does its job well: it tells you exactly which lanes exit, and which lanes do not. Other information is provided on the overhead gantry ahead, and more than likely by a previous sign.

It would benefit greatly from the addition of a vertical line down the middle, making it clearer that the I-29 shield goes with the left arrows and not the right ones. If I were in charge, though, I'd probably replace the whole thing with an overhead assembly similar to the one in the background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: Eth on March 08, 2016, 09:53:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 08:44:55 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 08, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 08, 2016, 04:26:11 PM
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1711/24991954714_daaed21e1c_c.jpg

Odd arrow set-up for I-29 northbound at the I-435/Airport Split.

<"I don't get it">

Pretty straightforward. Left two lanes go towards 29. Right two lanes exit. What's so hard to grasp?

Ignoring the caption, what's exiting here? There's also conflicting messages ("Right lane exit only" and "Right lanes exit only"), and US 71 is ignored.

Not sure what you mean by "conflicting messages" (it says "right lanes", which is correct here), but not every sign needs all possible information listed. This sign does its job well: it tells you exactly which lanes exit, and which lanes do not. Other information is provided on the overhead gantry ahead, and more than likely by a previous sign.

It would benefit greatly from the addition of a vertical line down the middle, making it clearer that the I-29 shield goes with the left arrows and not the right ones. If I were in charge, though, I'd probably replace the whole thing with an overhead assembly similar to the one in the background.

I don't think the sign is meant to be a wholesale replacement for an overhead gantry. Its use is more akin to a lane use sign (like below). I agree with installing a central divider, though.

(https://www.timesignsmfg.com/sites/default/files/R3-8A.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on March 08, 2016, 10:36:50 PM
My apologies if this has already been shared, but today while running errands with my father, I came across this monstrosity: https://goo.gl/maps/JVtxi47aw7B2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 08, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on March 08, 2016, 10:36:50 PM
My apologies if this has already been shared, but today while running errands with my father, I came across this monstrosity: https://goo.gl/maps/JVtxi47aw7B2

I wasn't aware you could compress 3-digits in Series E into a 2-digit Interstate shield. That's...remarkable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 08, 2016, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 08, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on March 08, 2016, 10:36:50 PM
My apologies if this has already been shared, but today while running errands with my father, I came across this monstrosity: https://goo.gl/maps/JVtxi47aw7B2

I wasn't aware you could compress 3-digits in Series E into a 2-digit Interstate shield. That's...remarkable.

WSDOT has done this once (and I'm pretty sure it's E(M)). I think it looks pretty good...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4zRFrzu.png&hash=a6aac42f2bad3f8a3780881e07bbc091ee50c316)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 08, 2016, 11:52:39 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 08, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on March 08, 2016, 10:36:50 PM
My apologies if this has already been shared, but today while running errands with my father, I came across this monstrosity: https://goo.gl/maps/JVtxi47aw7B2

I wasn't aware you could compress 3-digits in Series E into a 2-digit Interstate shield. That's...remarkable.

Not that hard if you have 1's in the shield  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Takumi on March 09, 2016, 01:16:35 PM
These VA 145 shields are like that, too. (They're also errors in more ways than one, but that's for another thread.)
https://goo.gl/maps/BBNv5BcR73S2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 09, 2016, 06:58:49 PM
Quote from: Takumi on March 09, 2016, 01:16:35 PM
These VA 145 shields are like that, too. (They're also errors in more ways than one, but that's for another thread.)
https://goo.gl/maps/BBNv5BcR73S2

Is it me, or the '5' is more bold than the 1 and the 4? Also, I believe it should be 'WEST' and 'EAST' not 'NORTH' and 'SOUTH'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on March 09, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
Old through traffic sign on the Royal York Road overpass overtop of the QEW/Gardiner in Toronto.  I don't know if this is a Toronto sign or an MTO sign because of its location:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fasphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2Fthroughtraffic.jpg&hash=4b24028543ed539450dfa430bb9b7f45beb341d6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on March 09, 2016, 09:00:22 PM
Wow, I haven't seen a traffic sign that spelled "through" correctly in donkey's years!  Must be a Canadian thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 09, 2016, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: kkt on March 09, 2016, 09:00:22 PM
Wow, I haven't seen a traffic sign that spelled "through" correctly in donkey's years!  Must be a Canadian thing.

Yes and no. I know BC uses 'THRU'. https://goo.gl/maps/N7SGdcnjwbH2

I know Ontario does use 'THROUGH' though. https://goo.gl/maps/jr9qnjAXRF72

Quebec doesn't use either of them  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Takumi on March 09, 2016, 10:38:08 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 09, 2016, 06:58:49 PM
Also, I believe it should be 'WEST' and 'EAST' not 'NORTH' and 'SOUTH'.
That's one of the errors. The other is that VA 145 does not continue to the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on March 10, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
I wish more Connecticut town line signs would look like this! It's looking south, roughly where the towns of Berlin, Newington and Rocky Hill all meet. Berlin is highlighted on the map after the picture. The black "dot" is about where I was standing.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fqg4Z3ZH.jpg&hash=766a7793ff10d84a1845e7339f527d5951001f03)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhKt661O.jpg&hash=336dbcd35553101b8b4477df9a42ed4701677437)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on March 11, 2016, 08:19:53 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2FOntroads%2FKingstonRdWestbound.jpg&hash=d1fe073266bc2350ee43818112ba536db99e0cfb)

Odd phrasing (by Ontario standards at least) for this ramp to the 401
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 12, 2016, 10:50:10 AM
Port Jervis, NY:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3581705,-74.6831238,3a,44.6y,189.76h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_VIgPTc4IqfQsu_T5ZikXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This looks like it was meant for a Garden State Parkway shield, judging by the color scheme and overall design of the arrow...

Also, I think JCT signs should only be used when you're at the actual junction of the road in question. I think a TO would've worked better here.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on March 12, 2016, 12:00:17 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on March 10, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
I wish more Connecticut town line signs would look like this!

Windsor's fancy signs aren't too bad: https://goo.gl/maps/bFdNXuVeU6m

A few years ago Windsor spent a bit of money to make sure the town line was marked on every street/road that crosses the line.  The number of signs needed lead to this simpler signage: https://goo.gl/maps/dzCHen78rC92
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 13, 2016, 08:41:59 AM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1590/25122232414_45054a563d_z.jpg)This sign is very odd with the different color place cards as well as the misaligned arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 14, 2016, 09:35:12 PM
Half overhead guide sign, half distance sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.000955,-75.90022,3a,19.2y,200.35h,95.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sknKann9b1p_OwrsVn2S_Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on March 14, 2016, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 14, 2016, 09:35:12 PM
Half overhead guide sign, half distance sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.000955,-75.90022,3a,19.2y,200.35h,95.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sknKann9b1p_OwrsVn2S_Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Here's a similar situation on DE 1 south in Rehoboth Beach...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2864/10427799035_6c3938b99b_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 14, 2016, 10:38:22 PM
Let's [url-https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0034802,-78.9450192,3a,37.2y,303.69h,92.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTDTysEglMW_NuB6-Ru423g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656]combine the distance sign with ugly[/url] and you've got this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 15, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Somebody on Wikipedia claims this is a yellow stop sign:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_stop_sign_in_Cedar_Mill,_Oregon.jpg

I say it's just a severely faded red one.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 15, 2016, 09:58:20 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 15, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Somebody on Wikipedia claims this is a yellow stop sign:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_stop_sign_in_Cedar_Mill,_Oregon.jpg

I say it's just a severely faded red one.


Agree.  The old yellow stop signs had black lettering and border. Plus you can see some remnants of red in the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on March 15, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 15, 2016, 09:58:20 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 15, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Somebody on Wikipedia claims this is a yellow stop sign:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_stop_sign_in_Cedar_Mill,_Oregon.jpg

I say it's just a severely faded red one.


Agree.  The old yellow stop signs had black lettering and border. Plus you can see some remnants of red in the sign.

I agree as well. I'm old enough to remember yellow stop signs. They had black borders and every one I saw was embossed, with the border and "STOP" raised above the surface.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 15, 2016, 08:40:31 PM
I've never seen this 'Narrow Bridge' symbol before:

https://goo.gl/maps/M8njASHaX6q

Didn't see it in the manual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 15, 2016, 09:33:15 PM
Here's an interesting assembly on NY Route 46 near Pine Bush in Madison County, N.Y.  Installed within the last five years, it replaces a similar assembly that stood there since the late 1980s.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Fpublic%2FIMG_0502.JPG&hash=013a10b88ed7754616054543668f7009921bc90c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 15, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
A lot of things interesting about this one...
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.0754486,-81.0944921,3a,15.7y,207.41h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7KvgnbKRFxLx2q5QIByEVQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 16, 2016, 10:43:52 AM
Not a bad sign, but the directional arrow underneath the 127 marker...  :ded:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.283143,-84.5660783,3a,52.5y,89.2h,83.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJp9KYrcOVWFf3zw_1QPuCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on March 16, 2016, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 15, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
A lot of things interesting about this one...
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.0754486,-81.0944921,3a,15.7y,207.41h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7KvgnbKRFxLx2q5QIByEVQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There are several of these city-installed trailblazers for Interstate 16 around Downtown Savannah. Here's another:

(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/GA/GA20080161i1.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=GA20080161)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 16, 2016, 02:14:05 PM
Maryland just put up a bunch of new signs along MD-97 and MD-140 in Carroll County which read: "STATE LAW: STOP FOR SCHOOL BUS WHEN RED LIGHT FLASH"(sic.)

Um, don't you mean "red lightS?"

Oh, about two years ago, I also caught SHA replacing a few reassurance markers on MD-140 with incorrect MD-832 markers.  I sent in an e-mail through their website, and I did not get a response, though the incorrect signs were quietly replaced by the next day.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 16, 2016, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: theline on March 15, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
I agree as well. I'm old enough to remember yellow stop signs. They had black borders and every one I saw was embossed, with the border and "STOP" raised above the surface.
I'm old enough to remember them too. I corrected the image description, but I'm debating whether I should send a message to the photographer, or the bot that uploaded it, hoping the creator would get the message.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on March 17, 2016, 06:58:14 PM
I noticed DelDOT is installing new HAWK signals along DE 1 in Rehoboth Beach when I was down there this afternoon. I also noticed this unique warning sign approaching the new signals, which I haven't seen before.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNOYojdDl.jpg&hash=c7894b1801378181dfd1057936df15c94d56a346)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 18, 2016, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: Ian on March 17, 2016, 06:58:14 PM
I noticed DelDOT is installing new HAWK signals along DE 1 in Rehoboth Beach when I was down there this afternoon. I also noticed this unique warning sign approaching the new signals, which I haven't seen before.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNOYojdDl.jpg&hash=c7894b1801378181dfd1057936df15c94d56a346)

Wow, someone has some money to burn.  What's wrong with the standard pedestrian crossing sign, maybe with an AHEAD plaque below?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 18, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Uncontrolled pedestrian crossings aren't safe on four lane roads with more than a certain amount of traffic.  That leaves the choice at regular traffic light, flashing beacons (experimental as of 2009 MUTCD; will likely be official in the next one), and a HAWK signal.  The flashing beacons probably work better at slower speeds since they're at ground level, leaving just the regular signal and the HAWK.  Of those, the HAWK at least allows traffic to proceed after a stop, isn't constantly using electricity, and would be less likely to lure traffic into a false sense of security of assuming it's always green (albeit many people don't know what to do with them, and the wigwag pattern invites confusion at rail crossings).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 18, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on March 18, 2016, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: Ian on March 17, 2016, 06:58:14 PM
I noticed DelDOT is installing new HAWK signals along DE 1 in Rehoboth Beach when I was down there this afternoon. I also noticed this unique warning sign approaching the new signals, which I haven't seen before.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNOYojdDl.jpg&hash=c7894b1801378181dfd1057936df15c94d56a346)

Wow, someone has some money to burn.  What's wrong with the standard pedestrian crossing sign, maybe with an AHEAD plaque below?

There's a reason why they charge $4 each direction on I-95.  And it's not because all that money stays on I-95.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 18, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 18, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Uncontrolled pedestrian crossings aren't safe on four lane roads with more than a certain amount of traffic.  That leaves the choice at regular traffic light, flashing beacons (experimental as of 2009 MUTCD; will likely be official in the next one), and a HAWK signal.  The flashing beacons probably work better at slower speeds since they're at ground level, leaving just the regular signal and the HAWK.  Of those, the HAWK at least allows traffic to proceed after a stop, isn't constantly using electricity, and would be less likely to lure traffic into a false sense of security of assuming it's always green (albeit many people don't know what to do with them, and the wigwag pattern invites confusion at rail crossings).

I guess what I MEANT to say is, why this sign?  I'm okay with the HAWK signals there (not really, I think they're a dumb idea, but I digress), but there HAS to be a better way to sign this thing...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on March 18, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 18, 2016, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on March 18, 2016, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: Ian on March 17, 2016, 06:58:14 PM
I noticed DelDOT is installing new HAWK signals along DE 1 in Rehoboth Beach when I was down there this afternoon. I also noticed this unique warning sign approaching the new signals, which I haven't seen before.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNOYojdDl.jpg&hash=c7894b1801378181dfd1057936df15c94d56a346)

Wow, someone has some money to burn.  What's wrong with the standard pedestrian crossing sign, maybe with an AHEAD plaque below?

There's a reason why they charge $4 each direction on I-95.  And it's not because all that money stays on I-95.

And I shunpike it every time I have to cross that border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on March 18, 2016, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on March 18, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 18, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Uncontrolled pedestrian crossings aren't safe on four lane roads with more than a certain amount of traffic.  That leaves the choice at regular traffic light, flashing beacons (experimental as of 2009 MUTCD; will likely be official in the next one), and a HAWK signal.  The flashing beacons probably work better at slower speeds since they're at ground level, leaving just the regular signal and the HAWK.  Of those, the HAWK at least allows traffic to proceed after a stop, isn't constantly using electricity, and would be less likely to lure traffic into a false sense of security of assuming it's always green (albeit many people don't know what to do with them, and the wigwag pattern invites confusion at rail crossings).

I guess what I MEANT to say is, why this sign?  I'm okay with the HAWK signals there (not really, I think they're a dumb idea, but I digress), but there HAS to be a better way to sign this thing...
I don't see what's wrong with signing it by its appearance, it's how we sign every other signalized intersection anyway.  It gets the point across.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 18, 2016, 09:27:05 PM
Here's what looks like a Schoharie County install along CR 27 at NY 30A (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.743412,-74.328127,3a,44.6y,93.76h,88.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1_K9hwg3Tg82ZIqm47DTvA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1). Flags and flashing warning beacons obviously weren't enough to stop overheight trucks, so there's a yellow and black striped outline. Note the warning siren next to the sign installed by the New York City Department of Environmental Protection in case Gilboa Dam next to the infamous NY 990V decides to fail and wipe out everything in the valley.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on March 19, 2016, 08:24:24 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FTEMPORARY_zpsu7grnp0v.jpg&hash=46e908764aaa14d1579086c5fe7cdb57110fa3ea)

Quebec always finds interesting ways to use symbols.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 19, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 19, 2016, 08:24:24 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FTEMPORARY_zpsu7grnp0v.jpg&hash=46e908764aaa14d1579086c5fe7cdb57110fa3ea)

Quebec always finds interesting ways to use symbols.
When merging, a bus may crash into you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on March 20, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
Found this interesting I-710 shield on the AARoads Facebook page complete with the round European arrow placard.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12573662_10154091007592948_2214578174713246851_n.jpg?oh=5d8ec4ba63a5b2ae8cdf17197a2bcdbb&oe=57850A76)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on March 20, 2016, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on March 20, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
Found this interesting I-710 shield on the AARoads Facebook page complete with the round European arrow placard.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12573662_10154091007592948_2214578174713246851_n.jpg?oh=5d8ec4ba63a5b2ae8cdf17197a2bcdbb&oe=57850A76)
That looks like something from Disney property or a shopping mall
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on March 20, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: busman_49 on March 18, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: vdeane on March 18, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
Uncontrolled pedestrian crossings aren't safe on four lane roads with more than a certain amount of traffic.  That leaves the choice at regular traffic light, flashing beacons (experimental as of 2009 MUTCD; will likely be official in the next one), and a HAWK signal.  The flashing beacons probably work better at slower speeds since they're at ground level, leaving just the regular signal and the HAWK.  Of those, the HAWK at least allows traffic to proceed after a stop, isn't constantly using electricity, and would be less likely to lure traffic into a false sense of security of assuming it's always green (albeit many people don't know what to do with them, and the wigwag pattern invites confusion at rail crossings).

I guess what I MEANT to say is, why this sign?  I'm okay with the HAWK signals there (not really, I think they're a dumb idea, but I digress), but there HAS to be a better way to sign this thing...

WSDOT uses signs that just say "PED SIGNAL"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on March 20, 2016, 11:42:02 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on March 20, 2016, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on March 20, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
Found this interesting I-710 shield on the AARoads Facebook page complete with the round European arrow placard.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12573662_10154091007592948_2214578174713246851_n.jpg?oh=5d8ec4ba63a5b2ae8cdf17197a2bcdbb&oe=57850A76)
That looks like something from Disney property or a shopping mall
The City of Long Beach put this up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 21, 2016, 07:50:44 PM
Disney must of designed it.  We have them all throughout the WDW resort in Florida.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mapman1071 on March 21, 2016, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on March 20, 2016, 11:42:02 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on March 20, 2016, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on March 20, 2016, 01:52:12 AM
Found this interesting I-710 shield on the AARoads Facebook page complete with the round European arrow placard.
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12573662_10154091007592948_2214578174713246851_n.jpg?oh=5d8ec4ba63a5b2ae8cdf17197a2bcdbb&oe=57850A76)
That looks like something from Disney property or a shopping mall
The City of Long Beach put this up.
Jurassic Park?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 22, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
Oh no. LeHay font... and ugly shield shapes. What do you call this??
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1255688,-67.8420235,3a,15y,204.88h,94.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIb1wyJ_ajb8AO-0qacNWfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Not related, but the only time I've seen both cardinal directions on a freeway sign for a single route:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9201841,-93.2750251,3a,15y,174.91h,99.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK0MHAsLheisqwaoEQu0CeQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 23, 2016, 01:27:17 PM

Not related, but the only time I've seen both cardinal directions on a freeway sign for a single route:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9201841,-93.2750251,3a,15y,174.91h,99.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK0MHAsLheisqwaoEQu0CeQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
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Does this count?

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.773885,-95.2378579,3a,60y,269.93h,88.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5LE8K8Ttw9QEQTqnPYQyFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on March 23, 2016, 11:07:39 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 22, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
Oh no. LeHay font... and ugly shield shapes. What do you call this??
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1255688,-67.8420235,3a,15y,204.88h,94.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIb1wyJ_ajb8AO-0qacNWfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Damn, I missed that when I was in the area last April. There are (or were, given MaineDOT's latest trend to replace everything older than 6 years old) more up the road.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/293/19877719214_4749d2451d_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/549/19877718334_2260f9e75a_z.jpg)

Maine used that shield shape a ton on intersection signage back in the LeHay era.

Quote from: Zeffy on March 22, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
Not related, but the only time I've seen both cardinal directions on a freeway sign for a single route:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9201841,-93.2750251,3a,15y,174.91h,99.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK0MHAsLheisqwaoEQu0CeQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

The entrance signs for the Mass Pike (I-90) have EAST-WEST written in them...

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7187/6913595123_e781c02063_z.jpg)

There's also this one on I-81 northbound at I-70 in Hagerstown, MD...

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7200/6931394394_4483a8e34a_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 24, 2016, 02:55:08 PM
I-81 is also signed for "North and South" on I-70 at Hagerstown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on March 24, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Along I-270 in northern Columbus, these signs are on their final days (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.11233,-83.0289879,3a,48.8y,290.28h,88.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s23xU4lvb4omdWhAk1NrPmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) if they aren't yet gone. Yet another case of "north and south".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on March 24, 2016, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: cl94 on March 24, 2016, 03:05:39 PM
Along I-270 in northern Columbus, these signs are on their final days (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.11233,-83.0289879,3a,48.8y,290.28h,88.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s23xU4lvb4omdWhAk1NrPmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) if they aren't yet gone.

A 3di shield with E(m) numerals. Didn't think it was possible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on March 24, 2016, 07:16:16 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 22, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
Not related, but the only time I've seen both cardinal directions on a freeway sign for a single route:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9201841,-93.2750251,3a,15y,174.91h,99.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK0MHAsLheisqwaoEQu0CeQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I-285 at GA 400 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9100466,-84.3625393,3a,75y,76.59h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjvflKoHKcWWNy6fz-XvmYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Done, I think, to emphasize that you can indeed go both directions on that route although US 19 goes only north (southbound US 19 hitches a ride on I-285 west to the next exit where it rejoins GA 9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 26, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Not exactly a strange sign, but Google camera did a job in blurring out US 209.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3568803,-74.6926878,3a,37.5y,351.4h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_hKObmgsiXNbv68If1KlZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I tried to find that thread about strange things seen on GSV, but I could not, so rather than start a new thread, I thought this is close enough.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 26, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Regarding two directions on one sign, there's a sign on eastbound I-66 approaching Exit 60 in Virginia that has the Route 123 shield with the words "SOUTH" and "NORTH" stacked atop each other (South on top) to the right of the shield.

Posting via iPhone so no Street View link. I'll add one later if nobody beats me to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 26, 2016, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 26, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Not exactly a strange sign, but Google camera did a job in blurring out US 209.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3568803,-74.6926878,3a,37.5y,351.4h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_hKObmgsiXNbv68If1KlZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I tried to find that thread about strange things seen on GSV, but I could not, so rather than start a new thread, I thought this is close enough.

Google's algorithm for deciding which items to blur seems to include highway shields an awful lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 26, 2016, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Regarding two directions on one sign, there's a sign on eastbound I-66 approaching Exit 60 in Virginia that has the Route 123 shield with the words "SOUTH" and "NORTH" stacked atop each other (South on top) to the right of the shield.

Posting via iPhone so no Street View link. I'll add one later if nobody beats me to it.

You mean this?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5728/23537781530_3bf1c92a6b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BRXhpu)IMG_2847 (https://flic.kr/p/BRXhpu) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 27, 2016, 08:24:27 AM
Thank you. That's the one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 27, 2016, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 26, 2016, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 26, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Not exactly a strange sign, but Google camera did a job in blurring out US 209.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3568803,-74.6926878,3a,37.5y,351.4h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_hKObmgsiXNbv68If1KlZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I tried to find that thread about strange things seen on GSV, but I could not, so rather than start a new thread, I thought this is close enough.

Yep. If it has numbers, it's going to occasionally be blurred. Often, you can go back or forward one shot and see the sign without a problem.

Google's algorithm for deciding which items to blur seems to include highway shields an awful lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 27, 2016, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 26, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Not exactly a strange sign, but Google camera did a job in blurring out US 209.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3568803,-74.6926878,3a,37.5y,351.4h,88.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_hKObmgsiXNbv68If1KlZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

I tried to find that thread about strange things seen on GSV, but I could not, so rather than start a new thread, I thought this is close enough.
Hardly unique.  In my experience, EVERY BGS ever erected in the entire history of BGSes on street view has at least one frame with a shield blurred.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 27, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 26, 2016, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Regarding two directions on one sign, there's a sign on eastbound I-66 approaching Exit 60 in Virginia that has the Route 123 shield with the words "SOUTH" and "NORTH" stacked atop each other (South on top) to the right of the shield.

Posting via iPhone so no Street View link. I'll add one later if nobody beats me to it.

You mean this?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5728/23537781530_3bf1c92a6b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BRXhpu)IMG_2847 (https://flic.kr/p/BRXhpu) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
The even more odd sign is the "BEGIN HERE TO EXIT". What's so hard about that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SD Mapman on March 28, 2016, 12:11:31 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 27, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 26, 2016, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Regarding two directions on one sign, there's a sign on eastbound I-66 approaching Exit 60 in Virginia that has the Route 123 shield with the words "SOUTH" and "NORTH" stacked atop each other (South on top) to the right of the shield.

Posting via iPhone so no Street View link. I'll add one later if nobody beats me to it.

You mean this?

-photo-
The even more odd sign is the "BEGIN HERE TO EXIT". What's so hard about that?
I think it's to try to prevent people from being in that lane earlier, as the lane is still there before that sign (but I'm not from that area, so I'm not exactly sure).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on March 28, 2016, 04:43:08 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 28, 2016, 12:11:31 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 27, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 26, 2016, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Regarding two directions on one sign, there's a sign on eastbound I-66 approaching Exit 60 in Virginia that has the Route 123 shield with the words "SOUTH" and "NORTH" stacked atop each other (South on top) to the right of the shield.

Posting via iPhone so no Street View link. I'll add one later if nobody beats me to it.

You mean this?

-photo-
The even more odd sign is the "BEGIN HERE TO EXIT". What's so hard about that?
I think it's to try to prevent people from being in that lane earlier, as the lane is still there before that sign (but I'm not from that area, so I'm not exactly sure).

That's what the solid white line is for, no?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 28, 2016, 06:27:39 AM
Quote from: riiga on March 28, 2016, 04:43:08 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on March 28, 2016, 12:11:31 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 27, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 26, 2016, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 26, 2016, 04:20:37 PM
Regarding two directions on one sign, there's a sign on eastbound I-66 approaching Exit 60 in Virginia that has the Route 123 shield with the words "SOUTH" and "NORTH" stacked atop each other (South on top) to the right of the shield.

Posting via iPhone so no Street View link. I'll add one later if nobody beats me to it.

You mean this?

-photo-
The even more odd sign is the "BEGIN HERE TO EXIT". What's so hard about that?
I think it's to try to prevent people from being in that lane earlier, as the lane is still there before that sign (but I'm not from that area, so I'm not exactly sure).

That's what the solid white line is for, no?

This sign is there because during times that are not the afternoon rush hour that right lane is the shoulder and VDOT is telling you where the shoulder stops and the exit lane area begins.  Note the reddish pavement just before this sign - this is the shoulder that is open to traffic during the afternoon rush...

Mike
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 28, 2016, 06:34:14 AM
In case we're not entirely clear here, the shoulder is used as a travel lane during the rush hour...although the time the shoulder is open is more like 1/4 of the day now.  Even though signage may indicate what time the lane is open, the arrows above the lane are the actual indication of the lane's valid use.  One trip not too long ago, it was about 8:45pm and the shoulder was still open, even though the signage say the shoulder should have been open only until 8pm.  Anyway...This "Begin to Exit Here" sign is used to simply note the beginning of the traditional decal lane.  In other words, don't ride the shoulder for a mile during offpeak periods.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 28, 2016, 03:00:52 PM
That's actually eastbound, so the shoulder is normally open as a lane on weekday mornings (5:00—11:00; westbound they do the same from 14:00—20:00). Since they added more sophisticated lane-control signals a year or so ago they've been opening the shoulder more often, though. I've seen it open to traffic on weekends more than once over the course of this past winter.

None of this prevents the self-important MFFY types from using the shoulder whenever traffic speeds don't suit their taste, of course. I think it's a $75 fine if you drive there when the red "X" is illuminated.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 29, 2016, 02:19:53 PM

The even more odd sign is the "BEGIN HERE TO EXIT". What's so hard about that?
[/quote]

The shoulder of I-66 is used as an extra lane during rush hours when HOV restrictions are in place for the left lane.  This drops the acceleration/deceleration lanes for on- and off-ramps.  Hence, "Begin to exit here."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 29, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
So after this ramp, does the shoulder materialize out of nowhere again to form a travel lane, or is there a "BEGIN TO EXIT HERE" sign at the next onramp?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 29, 2016, 09:06:50 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 29, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
So after this ramp, does the shoulder materialize out of nowhere again to form a travel lane, or is there a "BEGIN TO EXIT HERE" sign at the next onramp?

The shoulder/part-time lane is the one in the reddish-brown color in this satellite view. This discussion has been focusing on the side of the road towards the bottom of the image. The colored portion ends at the point where people are to cut across it to exit, then resumes again after that point. Note it does the same thing for entering traffic on the other side of the road, though of course there is no "BEGIN TO EXIT" sign when it's an entrance.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8670828,-77.3176037,366m/data=!3m1!1e3

(The image will be clearer if you turn off labels.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Sam on March 29, 2016, 09:56:31 PM

Quote from: Zeffy on March 12, 2016, 10:50:10 AM
Port Jervis, NY:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3581705,-74.6831238,3a,44.6y,189.76h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_VIgPTc4IqfQsu_T5ZikXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And a Pennsylvania "Blue Detour" sign just east of there. Not unique, not odd, just interesting. Obviously directing traffic back to I-84, but I've never seen one in New York before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 30, 2016, 01:49:46 PM
Poster child (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0365912,-77.0301862,3a,75y,310.22h,72.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soN4J5Aa9DAhooHj_OrYw1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) for the notion that combining picture messages (pedestrian & bicycle crossing) into one single sign isn't always a good idea.  The cyclist appears to be hitting the pedestrian with his front wheel and also appears to be attempting to do a wheelie in the process.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 30, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 30, 2016, 01:49:46 PM
Poster child (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0365912,-77.0301862,3a,75y,310.22h,72.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soN4J5Aa9DAhooHj_OrYw1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) for the notion that combining picture messages (pedestrian & bicycle crossing) into one single sign isn't always a good idea.  The cyclist appears to be hitting the pedestrian with his front wheel and also appears to be attempting to do a wheelie in the process.  :-D

Certainly a unique sign (+1), though the construction is of poor-quality (-1). I still like the sign, though. Gets the "multi-modal" point of the sign across.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on March 30, 2016, 05:13:36 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 30, 2016, 01:49:46 PM
Poster child (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0365912,-77.0301862,3a,75y,310.22h,72.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soN4J5Aa9DAhooHj_OrYw1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) for the notion that combining picture messages (pedestrian & bicycle crossing) into one single sign isn't always a good idea.  The cyclist appears to be hitting the pedestrian with his front wheel and also appears to be attempting to do a wheelie in the process.  :-D

I think this may be a MdSHA standard sign actually. I've seen it elsewhere throughout the state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 31, 2016, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: Ian on March 30, 2016, 05:13:36 PM
I think this may be a MdSHA standard sign actually. I've seen it elsewhere throughout the state.

I live in Maryland, and drive extensively in the Baltimore/DC areas, and I have never seen one of these.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 31, 2016, 07:45:27 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 31, 2016, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: Ian on March 30, 2016, 05:13:36 PM
I think this may be a MdSHA standard sign actually. I've seen it elsewhere throughout the state.

I live in Maryland, and drive extensively in the Baltimore/DC areas, and I have never seen one of these.

There are definitely other Maryland locations with a ped and bike on one sign, though maybe not so much with the ramming nature...

https://goo.gl/maps/SHNGCZJKjaD2 (off MD 355 at NIH)
https://goo.gl/maps/2D4Eo9VtWHu (MacArthur Blvd in Glen Echo)

https://goo.gl/maps/oYCcH6VLTCU2 (Jones Br Rd in Bethesda, with the ramming version)

Mike
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2016, 09:33:28 PM
Usually I would post this on my 295/76/42 contruction thread, but felt it was interesting enough for here...

Temporary 295 over South over 42 narrow signage. Former signage used to be wider where 42 shield was next to 295's shield.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0331161647b.jpg&hash=41ad2c79d6462a4f564fb6a3373d273671638b1c) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0331161647b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 31, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Are there multiple fonts on this sign?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5357556,-74.5774322,3a,15y,18.34h,88.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7JAKqHcW8yOp-nvyIZcIYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on April 03, 2016, 05:41:47 PM
This is certainly a first for me. It's along ME 156 near Farmington Falls, ME (and yes, at the bridge is a sign like the one depicted on this one).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fx6LzMpXl.jpg&hash=8093ba8885faf485c5c44e422b47f297b1d7f1b8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on April 03, 2016, 07:58:43 PM
Some stencil font along NY 9N in Sabbath Day Point (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6740601,-73.5094986,3a,45.3y,11.56h,78.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szg7kP0afyxp4ZrWCTXfDRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There's plenty more of that in the area. Not bad enough to be "worst of", but far from acceptable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 03, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
This sign seems like it's referencing a street that is 15 miles away.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5614905,-87.3739143,3a,15y,4.34h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqXeVOV8gVakEPJeGxVq6ZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like the design of this one, minus the Clearview:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6633163,-87.8519393,3a,15y,296.54h,111.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssC3s8EbUeG-C94nmDNtC1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 03, 2016, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 03, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
This sign seems like it's referencing a street that is 15 miles away.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5614905,-87.3739143,3a,15y,4.34h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqXeVOV8gVakEPJeGxVq6ZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Yep, that's the next exit (there's a whooooole lot of nothing along much of I-10 in Florida, and I guess part of Alabama in this case). Standard Florida practice (at least in rural areas) is to put the next exit on a mileage sign like that shortly after the previous exit.

Quote from: Zeffy on April 03, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
I like the design of this one, minus the Clearview:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6633163,-87.8519393,3a,15y,296.54h,111.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssC3s8EbUeG-C94nmDNtC1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The empty Interstate shield bugs me. Here's one with an empty US shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4990869,-85.017691,3a,37.5y,81.92h,98.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0CzzyWD5GcMhBeKtrXzEBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Put a number in it (US 80 here) and I'd like it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 05, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 03, 2016, 10:51:58 PM
The empty Interstate shield bugs me. Here's one with an empty US shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4990869,-85.017691,3a,37.5y,81.92h,98.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0CzzyWD5GcMhBeKtrXzEBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Put a number in it (US 80 here) and I'd like it.

It's an Alabama practice, so it's on many overpasses. The missing numbers bug me, too...why are the blank shields even there?

At least the road crossing over gets the right shield and numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 05, 2016, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 05, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 03, 2016, 10:51:58 PM
The empty Interstate shield bugs me. Here's one with an empty US shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4990869,-85.017691,3a,37.5y,81.92h,98.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0CzzyWD5GcMhBeKtrXzEBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Put a number in it (US 80 here) and I'd like it.

It's an Alabama practice, so it's on many overpasses. The missing numbers bug me, too...why are the blank shields even there?

At least the road crossing over gets the right shield and numbers.
It's probably a way ALDOT saves money on making those signs. A lot easier to use a template design without the numbers than it is to add numbers for each route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 05, 2016, 01:48:11 PM
I still don't get it.  Why would the motorist care about it being a US route if they don't know which one?  They could save even more money by not putting a shield on at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 05, 2016, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 05, 2016, 01:48:11 PM
I still don't get it.  Why would the motorist care about it being a US route if they don't know which one?  They could save even more money by not putting a shield on at all.

Because ALDOT.
Though maybe they could use money that they'd save from not using any shields to get the street (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7151661,-86.643127,3a,7.7y,285.88h,101.69t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stnf4R3tpOV4PLI07xPIbnA!2e0) names (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7140228,-86.6471748,3a,12.1y,273.3h,100.67t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3piqxtSRrnhtVOeTtgcRgA!2e0) on them correct... (Should be Sparkman Dr/Bob Wallace Ave in the first link, and Old Madison Pike in the second link)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SD Mapman on April 10, 2016, 12:46:48 AM
Found in Fayette, MO:
This was weird.
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12985616_781135481987304_2001294504086049429_n.jpg?oh=3bec1888d945464734c33d985f63a5dd&oe=578254A5)

Old punch-out speed limit sign.
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12974310_781135541987298_6986723880487004558_n.jpg?oh=554ce4a8b57362edff06f781510b5699&oe=5773E927)

Is blue the preferred color for noise ordinance signs?
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12961645_781135565320629_2959160372404122077_n.jpg?oh=85db8e20a8c2ba2d9eeb83937854b3ad&oe=57748C8D)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on April 14, 2016, 09:57:02 AM
LeHay stop sign?
spotted at the Braintree, MA MBTA Station garage pick-up/drop-off exit.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKyIMlia.jpg&hash=9a66ed4b09e7d22ef02e54fab45155e90c574499)

Sorry for the shadows - it surprised me and I had cars behind me, so I had to snap it quickly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 16, 2016, 10:42:11 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7495257,-75.5519863,3a,35.8y,318.27h,99.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMdm9Ag7diwgG-GhecX6X3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Really small signs in Wilmington, DE. I wonder how hard those are to read from far away?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 16, 2016, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 16, 2016, 10:42:11 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7495257,-75.5519863,3a,35.8y,318.27h,99.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMdm9Ag7diwgG-GhecX6X3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Really small signs in Wilmington, DE. I wonder how hard those are to read from far away?

Fortunately they're on a city street so at 25 mph it's not that bad. The curve just after this sign is more of a pain.

BTW, I used to work in the tall, mostly glass-looking building to the left past this sign when it was the Chase building.  These signs have always been here (albeit the structure may have changed).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on April 20, 2016, 07:12:56 PM
Blue stop sign in Kawela Bay, Hawaii:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fd5HAWn9.jpg&hash=22f68a94680490a029eddcb0683ccb7ad7d35f0b)

(Source (https://twitter.com/GlenBikes/status/721091276926353408))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 20, 2016, 07:15:11 PM
Wonder why they didn't opt for the fluorescent-green normally associated with school signs?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1496254,-77.2772664,3a,15y,17.46h,90.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbVAndBk1WbtzXtaKQ5uNJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 20, 2016, 07:33:01 PM
Ummm.. okay?

https://goo.gl/maps/hE3dbDQAEMU2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 20, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: Bruce on April 20, 2016, 07:12:56 PM
Blue stop sign in Kawela Bay, Hawaii:

http://i.imgur.com/d5HAWn9.jpg

I am bewildered. I think I can finally say, I've seen it all.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtFdO5ET.gif&hash=4959f99eb5434123d0d3e428ce3afcf177c054a3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on April 21, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
What do you guys think of this? It's been up for 2 years. It was put up as part of minor road improvement in that area and it had no predecessor. I think it was put up by my town.
https://goo.gl/maps/ikY5sc6TPBU2 (https://goo.gl/maps/ikY5sc6TPBU2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on April 21, 2016, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on April 21, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
What do you guys think of this? It's been up for 2 years. It was put up as part of minor road improvement in that area and it had no predecessor. I think it was put up by my town.
https://goo.gl/maps/ikY5sc6TPBU2 (https://goo.gl/maps/ikY5sc6TPBU2)

Based on the looks of it was installed as part of a detour. Doesn't look like a logical routing to I-84 under normal circumstances, so that looks like a contractor screw up and failed to remove it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on April 21, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/pasco_co_1_lane_shift_signs.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/pasco_co_1_lane_shift_signs.jpg)

Saw these "waterfall" signs yesterday along Pasco County 1 southbound. They were each prefaced with textual "Lanes Shift - 1000 feet" regulatory signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on April 21, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8147/6994426436_b65780f82d_z_d.jpg)
Southland Mall in Memphis
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 21, 2016, 01:16:29 PM
The new signs that went up on NY 85 at the "lane smush" at the freeway's western end (at the Thruway underpass), westbound look odd to me.  Should take a picture of them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on April 21, 2016, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8147/6994426436_b65780f82d_z_d.jpg)
Southland Mall in Memphis
Not bad, looks a bit like Vienna convention keep right signs with that color scheme.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on April 21, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 21, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/pasco_co_1_lane_shift_signs.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/pasco_co_1_lane_shift_signs.jpg)

Saw these "waterfall" signs yesterday along Pasco County 1 southbound. They were each prefaced with textual "Lanes Shift - 1000 feet" regulatory signs.
Caution: Bacon
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 21, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Huntsville, AL is normally not a place for non-standard signage, but I spotted this guy on Sparkman Drive yesterday:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1522/25962910733_f0f829df22.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FyfGPX)Notice No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/FyfGPX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 22, 2016, 12:24:15 PM
An Oxxo convenience store listed by icon in México (https://goo.gl/maps/Ee1MYZWST9q)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on April 22, 2016, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 21, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/pasco_co_1_lane_shift_signs.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/pasco_co_1_lane_shift_signs.jpg)

Saw these "waterfall" signs yesterday along Pasco County 1 southbound. They were each prefaced with textual "Lanes Shift - 1000 feet" regulatory signs.

And to think I thought they meant "Bacon Ahead".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on April 22, 2016, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on April 21, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
Huntsville, AL is normally not a place for non-standard signage, but I spotted this guy on Sparkman Drive yesterday:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1522/25962910733_f0f829df22.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FyfGPX)Notice No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/FyfGPX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I didn't notice any trucks there so the sign must be accurate!  :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 22, 2016, 05:31:55 PM
Did it give you reason for caution?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on April 23, 2016, 03:59:43 PM
Where does this fall? This is pretty weird... https://goo.gl/maps/d1jn68TRcHJ2 (https://goo.gl/maps/d1jn68TRcHJ2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on April 23, 2016, 04:10:36 PM
This one is in North Greenbush (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6578781,-73.6921082,3a,49y,60.5h,76.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdFBxCNVI3fftM_7J_DYaGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). No, it isn't enforced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 23, 2016, 04:58:03 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on April 23, 2016, 03:59:43 PM
Where does this fall? This is pretty weird... https://goo.gl/maps/d1jn68TRcHJ2 (https://goo.gl/maps/d1jn68TRcHJ2)

The design of the sign is perfectly fine. The size of the numerals arent!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on April 23, 2016, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 23, 2016, 04:58:03 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on April 23, 2016, 03:59:43 PM
Where does this fall? This is pretty weird... https://goo.gl/maps/d1jn68TRcHJ2 (https://goo.gl/maps/d1jn68TRcHJ2)

The design of the sign is perfectly fine. The size of the numerals arent!
Actually, the numerals are the only thing properly sized about that sign.  The panel and the arrow should both be larger!  The fact that those were the only size numerals they could get should have been a hint...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 24, 2016, 12:27:01 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 19, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 19, 2016, 08:24:24 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FTEMPORARY_zpsu7grnp0v.jpg&hash=46e908764aaa14d1579086c5fe7cdb57110fa3ea)

Quebec always finds interesting ways to use symbols.
When merging, a bus may crash into you.
I thought that was just a Bus Merge sign, myself.

I take it this is near some entrance ramp only used by buses. Am I right, or not?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 24, 2016, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 24, 2016, 12:27:01 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 19, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on March 19, 2016, 08:24:24 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FTEMPORARY_zpsu7grnp0v.jpg&hash=46e908764aaa14d1579086c5fe7cdb57110fa3ea)

Quebec always finds interesting ways to use symbols.
When merging, a bus may crash into you.
I thought that was just a Bus Merge sign, myself.

I take it this is near some entrance ramp only used by buses. Am I right, or not?

Yes. I believe that merge came from a bus-only area. In a province where English isn't allowed on road signs, symbols are king.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on April 24, 2016, 07:16:23 PM
Not only is this an unusual design, I can't tell how it's supposed to connect to the physical layout of the intersection (it's here (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6454585,-122.1352861,3a,75y,316.55h,85.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3JENkAXAzFYeQniNpZyQdw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)):

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1563/26352352910_f37293aed9_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on April 24, 2016, 07:29:24 PM
I guess it's meant for cyclists on the shared trail there, warning that cars turning from the offramp can clip cyclists in the crosswalk? It'd be better if the symbols were moved around a bit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 24, 2016, 07:30:59 PM
Cars turning right be aware of cyclists on the right which meet at some point otherwise you'll turn into... a bush looking thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 24, 2016, 08:18:19 PM
Cross-post from the 1-2-3 Sign Game thread:

Quote from: Ian on April 24, 2016, 07:23:58 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWLrRbbql.jpg&hash=1507ae9b9e2add5decf45d6ede06a5eb4c85e0d5)

Two uniquenesses/oddities here: the shield with the "FORMERLY" banner in the foreground and the junction sign in the background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on April 24, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Which New England state is that? Maine? I only ask because I don't know any places in Massachusetts or Rhode Island with that kind of scenery. Though I like the FORMERLY banner.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 25, 2016, 09:32:39 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 24, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Which New England state is that? Maine?
Yes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on April 25, 2016, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 24, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Which New England state is that? Maine? I only ask because I don't know any places in Massachusetts or Rhode Island with that kind of scenery. Though I like the FORMERLY banner.

Yep, it's along US 1 north in Orland, Maine. Within the past few months or so, MaineDOT must've truncated ME 175 several miles south where it met the former end of ME 166 and 166 was extended north to meet US 1.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on April 25, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 24, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Which New England state is that? Maine? I only ask because I don't know any places in Massachusetts or Rhode Island with that kind of scenery. Though I like the FORMERLY banner.
Maine's scenery is amazing.  I was so pleasantly surprised to find that kind of natural beauty in New England.  This photo is in the geologic anomaly that's the home of Acadia National Park.  Oceans and mountains and trees, it's so nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on April 25, 2016, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 25, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on April 24, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Which New England state is that? Maine? I only ask because I don't know any places in Massachusetts or Rhode Island with that kind of scenery. Though I like the FORMERLY banner.
Maine's scenery is amazing.  I was so pleasantly surprised to find that kind of natural beauty in New England.  This photo is in the geologic anomaly that's the home of Acadia National Park.  Oceans and mountains and trees, it's so nice.

Just don't come here for the weather.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 28, 2016, 12:30:31 PM
I like the big loopy arrow on this one at the end of I-295 in Massachusetts:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1448/26394216440_661c1871c4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on April 28, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 28, 2016, 12:30:31 PM
I like the big loopy arrow on this one at the end of I-295 in Massachusetts:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1448/26394216440_661c1871c4_o.jpg)

I take it flipping trucks is a major issue on that ramp and they want to hammer home that curve as much as possible?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on April 28, 2016, 01:08:42 PM
That is a really interesting sign.  Great way to hammer home the existence of the loop ramp at this location.  Looks like quite a bit of positive guidance to try and get drivers to slow down has been installed at this location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 28, 2016, 02:45:50 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 28, 2016, 12:30:31 PM
I like the big loopy arrow on this one at the end of I-295 in Massachusetts:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1448/26394216440_661c1871c4_o.jpg)

I wouldn't mind seeing signs like that on all cloverleafs. I can't think of any cloverleaf in Louisiana that even indicates that the ramp is a 270-degree loop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6987283,-73.8368167,3a,75y,198.34h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D222.91071%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) seem to be restricted to NYSDOT Region 1. The sign border, words, and arrow are lit and they flash at night. This interchange has a few and there are a few elsewhere in the area There are a few clearance signs on NY 85 and NY 85A southwest of here that have a similar concept, except the arrows flash alternately.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on April 28, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6987283,-73.8368167,3a,75y,198.34h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D222.91071%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) seem to be restricted to NYSDOT Region 1. The sign border, words, and arrow are lit and they flash at night. This interchange has a few and there are a few elsewhere in the area There are a few clearance signs on NY 85 and NY 85A southwest of here that have a similar concept, except the arrows flash alternately.

My aunt and uncle used to live in Voorheesville, so I know those flashing clearance signs very well! I always thought the "03" inches was interesting.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2808/12915471125_d1d42c671b_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ian on April 28, 2016, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6987283,-73.8368167,3a,75y,198.34h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D222.91071%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) seem to be restricted to NYSDOT Region 1. The sign border, words, and arrow are lit and they flash at night. This interchange has a few and there are a few elsewhere in the area There are a few clearance signs on NY 85 and NY 85A southwest of here that have a similar concept, except the arrows flash alternately.

My aunt and uncle used to live in Voorheesville, so I know those flashing clearance signs very well! I always thought the "03" inches was interesting.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2808/12915471125_d1d42c671b_z.jpg)

Those are still there as of Monday. The ones on NY 85 in Singerlands don't have the leading zero. I've seen a few lit "signal ahead" signs scattered around as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on April 28, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 21, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8147/6994426436_b65780f82d_z_d.jpg)
Southland Mall in Memphis
Similar to the old days when all the signs on the New York State Thruway were blue and white and on short poles in the exit ramps!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on April 29, 2016, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6987283,-73.8368167,3a,75y,198.34h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D222.91071%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) seem to be restricted to NYSDOT Region 1. The sign border, words, and arrow are lit and they flash at night. This interchange has a few and there are a few elsewhere in the area There are a few clearance signs on NY 85 and NY 85A southwest of here that have a similar concept, except the arrows flash alternately.

I have never seen exits "xxxW" or "xxxE" before. It that typical for New York State?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on April 29, 2016, 02:36:26 AM
Yes.  And Connecticut.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on April 29, 2016, 10:41:07 AM
Yes. They're doing away with it as exits are added/renumbered, but few examples of renumbered/added exits exist. Regions 4 and 5 (Rochester, Buffalo) use A/B instead of N/S or E/W. A few locations use combinations of the directions, although this is quite rare. Anywhere with mile-based numbering is A/B.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 29, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on April 29, 2016, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6987283,-73.8368167,3a,75y,198.34h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D222.91071%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) seem to be restricted to NYSDOT Region 1. The sign border, words, and arrow are lit and they flash at night. This interchange has a few and there are a few elsewhere in the area There are a few clearance signs on NY 85 and NY 85A southwest of here that have a similar concept, except the arrows flash alternately.

I have never seen exits "xxxW" or "xxxE" before. It that typical for New York State?
Quote from: Kacie Jane on April 29, 2016, 02:36:26 AM
Yes.  And Connecticut.
And PA used to do it as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 29, 2016, 11:35:47 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 29, 2016, 10:41:07 AM
Yes. They're doing away with it as exits are added/renumbered, but few examples of renumbered/added exits exist. Regions 4 and 5 (Rochester, Buffalo) use A/B instead of N/S or E/W. A few locations use combinations of the directions, although this is quite rare. Anywhere with mile-based numbering is A/B.

In another case, the AC Expressway still has Exits 7N/7S for the Garden State Parkway. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on April 29, 2016, 11:47:09 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 29, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on April 29, 2016, 02:33:58 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 28, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6987283,-73.8368167,3a,75y,198.34h,82.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DB6QIiQJwN3ebosRBIrnHhA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D222.91071%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656) seem to be restricted to NYSDOT Region 1. The sign border, words, and arrow are lit and they flash at night. This interchange has a few and there are a few elsewhere in the area There are a few clearance signs on NY 85 and NY 85A southwest of here that have a similar concept, except the arrows flash alternately.

I have never seen exits "xxxW" or "xxxE" before. It that typical for New York State?
Quote from: Kacie Jane on April 29, 2016, 02:36:26 AM
Yes.  And Connecticut.
And PA used to do it as well.

New Hampshire also...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6080/6087279672_8ec596e111_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on April 29, 2016, 11:55:07 AM
Quebec does this too:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FPQ%2FA%2F40%2FA40_dv_79_east.jpg&hash=10d36bf6850e72d22e927bd05b52ddb13b1b451a)
except of course they use O and E for ouest and est, instead of W and E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on April 29, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
I think Quebec technically calls the exits "80 nord" and "80 sud"... at least, that's what they put on gore signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 29, 2016, 03:03:08 PM
You'd think they'd just install a "No Stopping" sign with a double arrow:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0466477,-76.1856328,3a,36.8y,11.12h,85.91t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sExcLdv8z_iU48s4YZEUFqw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on April 29, 2016, 03:09:38 PM
West Virginia has an "E/W" exit for WV 9 on I-81 to indicate the east and west directions for WV 9.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on May 02, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
Bold digits on this CA 282 shield.
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images282/ca-282_wb_third_st_08.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on May 05, 2016, 01:44:35 PM
Observed in Highway Safety and Trees: The Delicate Balance (https://archive.org/details/gov.dot.fhwa.fhwa-sa-06-13):

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7609/26742216562_0c203f37e0_o.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 05, 2016, 02:15:31 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on May 05, 2016, 01:44:35 PM
Observed in Highway Safety and Trees: The Delicate Balance (https://archive.org/details/gov.dot.fhwa.fhwa-sa-06-13):

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7609/26742216562_0c203f37e0_o.png)

Danger, Euros ahead!
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on May 05, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this one, and I'm sure it's been there for a year or so and I've just noticed it: NB I-270 exit to W. Broad St. in Columbus. Top left, 4/3 mile to the Thornton's station. Would have been neater if they'd gone all the way and made it 7/4 to Kroger, but alas...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160505%2F2d3086d3d06ffa7884ffb4f946753340.jpg&hash=f50533bb3ce223601a86ba7c441a11e37a1a2322)

Edit: I'm sure it should say 3/4 since GetGo is practically across the road
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on May 05, 2016, 06:13:11 PM
If it's 3/4, this would be Erroneous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 05, 2016, 09:56:51 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Iowa_Day_1%2FImages%2F60.jpg&hash=ae74aab63d59c264608b12296fd19782d04bba5f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2016, 11:56:50 PM
Has anybody else here been at the parking garage near the John F. Germany Public Library in Tampa, Florida? They still have two yellow Yield signs mounter over the drivers on the first floor at one of the exits.

I didn't get a pic, because my windshield was too dirty.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 06, 2016, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2016, 11:56:50 PM
Has anybody else here been at the parking garage near the John F. Germany Public Library in Tampa, Florida? They still have two yellow Yield signs mounter over the drivers on the first floor at one of the exits.

I haven't been anywhere near Tampa in my whole life, but the parking garage at the University of Washington - Seattle has a couple yellow yield signs leftover from when the garage was first constructed:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNgUx0Fx.jpg&hash=4637e15c6ab842730a29a7b1144b0fc0f45b3aea)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 06, 2016, 05:44:15 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 05, 2016, 09:56:51 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Iowa_Day_1%2FImages%2F60.jpg&hash=ae74aab63d59c264608b12296fd19782d04bba5f)

Helvetica, in case anyone was wondering.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 07, 2016, 03:55:31 PM
Didn't think this was "worst of" material but the left 234 shield is fugly....

https://goo.gl/maps/LU9i63wxDND2

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 09, 2016, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: 6a on May 05, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this one, and I'm sure it's been there for a year or so and I've just noticed it: NB I-270 exit to W. Broad St. in Columbus. Top left, 4/3 mile to the Thornton's station. Would have been neater if they'd gone all the way and made it 7/4 to Kroger, but alas...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160505%2F2d3086d3d06ffa7884ffb4f946753340.jpg&hash=f50533bb3ce223601a86ba7c441a11e37a1a2322)

Edit: I'm sure it should say 3/4 since GetGo is practically across the road

Why doesn't it list both Speedways?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs and the "other" Speedway may have opted not to do so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs

Why?

And even if they do, the increased customer base from long-distance or mid-distance Interstate travelers would surely be worth the extra expense, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 10, 2016, 02:09:17 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs
Why?
Because it's advertising?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 10, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs

Why?

Most logo sign programs are self-sustaining. Meaning, the companies that advertise on the signs, also pay for the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 10, 2016, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs

Why?

And even if they do, the increased customer base from long-distance or mid-distance Interstate travelers would surely be worth the extra expense, wouldn't it?

That's why they do it.  Same reason why they advertise on billboards and post the highest, largest sign they can to be seen from the greatest distance possible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on May 11, 2016, 11:39:52 AM
Some Canadian humor.  I'm not sure if I can embed the GSV right in this post, so link and static image only:
https://goo.gl/maps/dtck16mvCux
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEyX22K7.png&hash=671a9ca196759936d3a251f0abaf68d273fae619)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 13, 2016, 12:10:18 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 06, 2016, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2016, 11:56:50 PM
Has anybody else here been at the parking garage near the John F. Germany Public Library in Tampa, Florida? They still have two yellow Yield signs mounter over the drivers on the first floor at one of the exits.

I haven't been anywhere near Tampa in my whole life, but the parking garage at the University of Washington - Seattle has a couple yellow yield signs leftover from when the garage was first constructed:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNgUx0Fx.jpg&hash=4637e15c6ab842730a29a7b1144b0fc0f45b3aea)
Ahh. But unlike the one you're showing us, believe it or not, these signs actually look fairly new. In fact, they kind of edge towards being fluorescent lime green.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 14, 2016, 02:08:01 PM
From my recent travels:

An extremely large "Weight Limit 3 Tons" sign on Jefferson Street in Courtland, AL. Just so y'all know, this road has a speed limit of 35 MPH here:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7598/26405700584_5ac6267187.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7PJ)Really, really large Weight Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7PJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A rather large "ahead" plaque for this sign in Town Creek, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7593/26405700294_2a37dd5715.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7JJ)Really Large Ahead Plaque (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7JJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This sign in Town Creek, AL just looks weird, especially with the font:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7581/27011493215_48152c152a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H9UXSg)Slow Children At Play (https://flic.kr/p/H9UXSg) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A "No Trucks" sign on a sign-blank for something like a speed limit sign in Town Creek, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7641/27011492805_76bc6155c4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H9UXKc)No Trucks (https://flic.kr/p/H9UXKc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A bit of an odd looking reverse curve sign in Muscle Shoals, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7324/26405700004_b1aa21cc76.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7DJ)Odd Reverse Curve Sign (https://flic.kr/p/Geo7DJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Non-standard font in Muscle Shoals, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7426/27011492995_e53d1afc45.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H9UXNt)No Left Turn on to George Wallace Boulevard (https://flic.kr/p/H9UXNt) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 15, 2016, 08:51:25 AM
Quote from: jbnv on May 05, 2016, 06:13:11 PM
If it's 3/4, this would be Erroneous.

Don't have the time to check the distances here, but measuring miles in thirds is very rare, and it's almost unheard of to write a fraction that is more than one as 4/3 instead of 1 1/3.  So I believe it is really 3/4, signed erroneously.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 19, 2016, 08:50:22 AM
NJ Turnpike BBBS? (Big Blue Blue Sign or Blue Big Blue Sign)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0518161321_Burst05.jpg&hash=5718c88a774b52fa95adfc326a4a065d7062b542) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0518161321_Burst05.jpg.html)

While a sign mentioning an exit for the state police barracks isn't totally unusual on some roads, what makes this a little different is it requires you to take the maintenance ramp and overpass near Exit 4 to get there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on May 19, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs

Why?

And even if they do, the increased customer base from long-distance or mid-distance Interstate travelers would surely be worth the extra expense, wouldn't it?

Providing LOGOS for two separate locations of the same company at a single exit IMO serves little useful purpose.   Especially as an Interstate traveler looking for a quick fuel or food stop is going to go to the location closest to the interchange anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on May 19, 2016, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 19, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs

Why?

And even if they do, the increased customer base from long-distance or mid-distance Interstate travelers would surely be worth the extra expense, wouldn't it?

Providing LOGOS for two separate locations of the same company at a single exit IMO serves little useful purpose.   Especially as an Interstate traveler looking for a quick fuel or food stop is going to go to the location closest to the interchange anyway.


I've seen instances of two Speedway logos at the same exit. The one most familiar to me has a Speedway in each direction from the freeway. At the exit pictured several posts back, however, both Speedways are to the left.  But I thought I remembered two Speedway logos on the blue signs for that exit in the past (maybe it was the exit from the other direction of I-270...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 19, 2016, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 19, 2016, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 10, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 09, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
^^ Companies have to pay to put their name/logo on those blue signs

Why?

And even if they do, the increased customer base from long-distance or mid-distance Interstate travelers would surely be worth the extra expense, wouldn't it?

Providing LOGOS for two separate locations of the same company at a single exit IMO serves little useful purpose.   Especially as an Interstate traveler looking for a quick fuel or food stop is going to go to the location closest to the interchange anyway.


Both businesses are probably owned and/or operated separately, and thus both purchased the right to have their sign posted independent of each other.  Also, if there are two Speedways someone may know that they can get the brand of fuel they want, no matter if they turn left or right based on the dining options available.

Another example, this time with Wawa: https://goo.gl/maps/6pqhofvsSc82  Odd thing here is that both are open 24 hours, and both have diesel.  Only one sign was updated to reflect that though.  The distance from the ramp is about equal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on May 19, 2016, 05:08:15 PM
Looks like it belongs in an advertisement.  Certainly attention-getting:
https://goo.gl/maps/wENMMfnrqe32
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 19, 2016, 08:35:05 PM
Sign in transport. On NJ 29 headed to somewhere on Rt. 73. Left down arrow is hidden by the pick up.  Note the 73 shield doesn't have the traditional black square behind it. Even though that is the standard now, many new NJ BGSs still have that black background. Of course, control cities aren't supposed to be bridges either. NJ won't concede everything to the feds!!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0519161608.jpg&hash=92b7d66acc7bd6a48b9329102955ff77d945e5f0) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0519161608.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on May 19, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
Hmm, there are only a few pull-thrus on NJ 73. The one at CR 534 has "Marlton / Tacony Br." The one at Cross Keys Rd. is "Mount Laurel". The one at NJ 90 has "to US 130". So that leaves the one at NJ 38 and the one at US 130 as candidates for replacement. Those say "Tacony Br". Unless they are building new ones, maybe at the Turnpike or I-295?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 19, 2016, 09:42:56 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on May 19, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
Hmm, there are only a few pull-thrus on NJ 73. The one at CR 534 has "Marlton / Tacony Br." The one at Cross Keys Rd. is "Mount Laurel". The one at NJ 90 has "to US 130". So that leaves the one at NJ 38 and the one at US 130 as candidates for replacement. Those say "Tacony Br". Unless they are building new ones, maybe at the Turnpike or I-295?

You mighta guessed right with the Route 38 location, based on the 511 report for tonight...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2FCapture_2016-05-19-21-39-07.png&hash=c5a37dd0cd620d8393a6d8b3caee2508c014b601) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/Capture_2016-05-19-21-39-07.png.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 20, 2016, 12:54:47 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 19, 2016, 08:35:05 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0519161608.jpg&hash=92b7d66acc7bd6a48b9329102955ff77d945e5f0) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0519161608.jpg.html)

Is it just me, or does that 73 look a little crooked?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 20, 2016, 10:09:45 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 20, 2016, 12:54:47 AM
Is it just me, or does that 73 look a little crooked?

It's not just you.  The three is higher and to the right of center.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on May 20, 2016, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: chays on May 19, 2016, 05:08:15 PM
Looks like it belongs in an advertisement.  Certainly attention-getting:
https://goo.gl/maps/wENMMfnrqe32

That's pretty standard signage in Canada (or at least in Ontario) for something that's changed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 21, 2016, 12:38:38 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 20, 2016, 12:54:47 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 19, 2016, 08:35:05 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd144%2Froadnut%2F0519161608.jpg&hash=92b7d66acc7bd6a48b9329102955ff77d945e5f0) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/0519161608.jpg.html)

Is it just me, or does that 73 look a little crooked?


I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on May 22, 2016, 05:12:15 PM
While doing some reconnaissance for a planned summer trip, I came across this at the intersection of VA-72 and VA-83: https://goo.gl/maps/7niNtu94e9x
While I have seen VDOT address problematic T-intersections with multiple chevrons before, this is a new method of emphasis to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on May 22, 2016, 08:38:31 PM
Found this today outside the Genesee Theatre in Waukegan, IL

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7775/27148768746_af9070d932_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hn3x6L)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 23, 2016, 12:03:06 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on May 22, 2016, 05:12:15 PM
While doing some reconnaissance for a planned summer trip, I came across this at the intersection of VA-72 and VA-83: https://goo.gl/maps/7niNtu94e9x
While I have seen VDOT address problematic T-intersections with multiple chevrons before, this is a new method of emphasis to me.

I see they also doubled up the guardrail there.

I've been through that intersection a few times. Anyone who runs that stop sign probably deserves to land in the creek.  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on May 23, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
Not only is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9223142,-122.4254629,3a,15y,272.59h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2QAzT4ywAL8Z7kV7b9aL6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) a weird divided highway ahead sign, there is no median (painted or otherwise) anywhere near the sign...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 23, 2016, 05:23:31 PM
Quote from: jay8g on May 23, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
Not only is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9223142,-122.4254629,3a,15y,272.59h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2QAzT4ywAL8Z7kV7b9aL6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) a weird divided highway ahead sign, there is no median (painted or otherwise) anywhere near the sign...

I can only assume it was placed there following a previous setup, but alas, it seems pretty odd now.

OT: I've always liked that flush median warning sign that Oregon uses, though I don't see the point if both flushed and raised medians are legally one in the same (in Oregon, as far as whether or not you can drive across flush medians).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 23, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
Quote from: jay8g on May 23, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
Not only is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9223142,-122.4254629,3a,15y,272.59h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2QAzT4ywAL8Z7kV7b9aL6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) a weird divided highway ahead sign, there is no median (painted or otherwise) anywhere near the sign...

The center line changes to a double yellow as you approach the junction with route 230, at the bend in the road ahead.  That's probably what they mean, even if it's the wrong sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on May 24, 2016, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 23, 2016, 12:03:06 PM
Quote from: HTM Duke on May 22, 2016, 05:12:15 PM
While doing some reconnaissance for a planned summer trip, I came across this at the intersection of VA-72 and VA-83: https://goo.gl/maps/7niNtu94e9x
While I have seen VDOT address problematic T-intersections with multiple chevrons before, this is a new method of emphasis to me.

I see they also doubled up the guardrail there.

I've been through that intersection a few times. Anyone who runs that stop sign probably deserves to land in the creek.  :pan:
I admit that I've never been through this intersection, and based on the imagery I tend to agree with HB's statement.  Just trying to be objective; is this area prone to thick fog?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
This is a temp sign, but I thought it was interesting.  I really appreciate how they brought specificity to which lane was being closed!  Someone get this contractor a trophy.
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7351/27150767316_33f9bac778_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HndMcS)
IMG_4054 (https://flic.kr/p/HndMcS) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on May 24, 2016, 07:55:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on May 23, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
Quote from: jay8g on May 23, 2016, 05:19:42 PM
Not only is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9223142,-122.4254629,3a,15y,272.59h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2QAzT4ywAL8Z7kV7b9aL6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) a weird divided highway ahead sign, there is no median (painted or otherwise) anywhere near the sign...

The center line changes to a double yellow as you approach the junction with route 230, at the bend in the road ahead.  That's probably what they mean, even if it's the wrong sign.

This sign is quite common in Oregon.  It indicates the center line is divided ahead, i.e. no physical median, only striped road surface.  Typically it's placed before a highway widens to accommodate a left turn lane at an intersection.  It does seem like an unusual placement here though, best guess I can offer is that OR 62/230 is slightly divided at that T-junction, or that ODOT just put it there to confuse people and slow them down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on May 25, 2016, 02:47:11 PM
Watch for alligators.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F83%2F92%2Fdc%2F8392dce0ed62cf5f5cae382b240bbb2c.jpg&hash=c5722c1bf674c0d50045d63328033f1a7f56ed0f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 27, 2016, 09:16:23 AM
Guessing this is a locally-constructed item here in Amsterdam, New York.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20160401%2Fonewaykeepright.jpg&hash=af1c34190fcf6150313b60043d37ea357e937683)

One block at the top of the steep hill on Prospect Street is one way, and this sign is intended to make sure drivers on that block keep right to avoid uphill drivers where it becomes two way.  Prospect Street connects Market Street (NY 30) with Church Street (NY 67).

It also seems to me that both panels below should have the lines down and to the right to indicate to keep right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 27, 2016, 11:56:26 AM
Quote from: jay8g on May 23, 2016, 05:19:42 PMNot only is this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9223142,-122.4254629,3a,15y,272.59h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2QAzT4ywAL8Z7kV7b9aL6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en) a weird divided highway ahead sign, there is no median (painted or otherwise) anywhere near the sign...

That sign is a standard sign in Oregon.  I don't recall offhand whether they use the variant that is actually shown in the MUTCD for raised islands.

Oregon also has another completely unnecessary standard sign (dating back to the 1940's at least in basic design and in much of its verbiage) that explains the passing rules according to centerline striping.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 27, 2016, 12:05:46 PM
Quote from: Jim on May 27, 2016, 09:16:23 AM
Guessing this is a locally-constructed item here in Amsterdam, New York.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20160401%2Fonewaykeepright.jpg&hash=af1c34190fcf6150313b60043d37ea357e937683)

One block at the top of the steep hill on Prospect Street is one way, and this sign is intended to make sure drivers on that block keep right to avoid uphill drivers where it becomes two way.  Prospect Street connects Market Street (NY 30) with Church Street (NY 67).

It also seems to me that both panels below should have the lines down and to the right to indicate to keep right.

This is a very bad sign for this purpose because it appears to be a one-way sign.  Better to use a standard keep right sign and to emphasize the need to keep right.   It would also be helpful to paint a double yellow line around this island.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 28, 2016, 10:26:10 PM
Found this at a church near my local park-and-ride transit lot.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FIMG_20160527_170400_zpsmnxf0ubo.jpg&hash=dd6f9fd6bce4a3a6a7658d22b8024199965c9421)

+10 for creativity but -10 for Helvetica, so we're even.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 28, 2016, 10:42:02 PM
That reminds me of my sister. She has never wanted to have children. As such, when she was in high school, she stole a "watch out for children" road sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 29, 2016, 02:12:02 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 24, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
This is a temp sign, but I thought it was interesting.  I really appreciate how they brought specificity to which lane was being closed!  Someone get this contractor a trophy.
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7351/27150767316_33f9bac778_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HndMcS)
IMG_4054 (https://flic.kr/p/HndMcS) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Better yet, somebody get MUTCD to make this and the left turn lane one official.

And here I was originally concentrating on the supplemental street name sign beneath the Illinois Route 58 shield.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on May 29, 2016, 09:17:10 PM
New Limited Visibility sign in Vancouver, BC (stamped CoV 2016).  Design looks like it's based on Quebec's D-240-2, but with a tab below.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCWHt6uJl.jpg&hash=8545ca472e400d5591a07aaf08dbf7c84c198844)

Compare with the old standard below, also from Vancouver, dated 2014 I think.  Also note the unusual speed tab - technically that's not an advisory speed, that's a tab-size speed limit.  I think I've only ever seen one other instance of that, and it was white instead of yellow.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGTRVDhgm.png&hash=f7936cbba4a3efdfb638b69f5fd3e952439905ea)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on May 31, 2016, 06:20:21 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Fboard%2Flongmont.png&hash=cd0918e88848da4c65e56a9c52db06e26dc037f2)

Spotted this sign on I-25 NB in Colorado this past weekend. I didn't find a lot of lettering oddities in Colorado while traveling around, but the selection of letters, especially in "Rocky Mtn" grabbed my eye.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on May 31, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on May 31, 2016, 06:20:21 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Fboard%2Flongmont.png&hash=cd0918e88848da4c65e56a9c52db06e26dc037f2)

Spotted this sign on I-25 NB in Colorado this past weekend. I didn't find a lot of lettering oddities in Colorado while traveling around, but the selection of letters, especially in "Rocky Mtn" grabbed my eye.

All I'm seeing is the placeholder for the picture....


Of course after waiting 5 minutes for it to load I type this and then it loads #gofigure
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 31, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
All I'm seeing is the placeholder for the picture....

Of course after waiting 5 minutes for it to load I type this and then it loads #gofigure

It was very slow loading for me as well. Must be Upstate NY's servers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on May 31, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on May 31, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
All I'm seeing is the placeholder for the picture....

Of course after waiting 5 minutes for it to load I type this and then it loads #gofigure

It was very slow loading for me as well. Must be Upstate NY's servers.

I attached a lower quality image.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Fboard%2Flongmont.jpg&hash=3e81372cc02fe8fad334c24d373b0a6217718ab2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 01, 2016, 01:26:30 AM
That sign is a CRaiG CoUntY wannabe.  That and it should be a brown recreation sign, no?  All references to RMNP on I-70 are on brown signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 01, 2016, 02:57:58 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on June 01, 2016, 01:26:30 AM
That sign is a CRaiG CoUntY wannabe.  That and it should be a brown recreation sign, no?  All references to RMNP on I-70 are on brown signage.
It doesn't have to be a brown rec guide sign, especially if Estes Park isn't a recreational area (I'm not familiar with it).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 01, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
Quote from: roadfro on June 01, 2016, 02:57:58 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on June 01, 2016, 01:26:30 AM
That sign is a CRaiG CoUntY wannabe.  That and it should be a brown recreation sign, no?  All references to RMNP on I-70 are on brown signage.

It doesn't have to be a brown rec guide sign, especially if Estes Park isn't a recreational area (I'm not familiar with it).

Could they have used a half green/half brown sign? WSDOT has quite a few of these on overhead gantries.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on June 01, 2016, 04:10:25 PM
Estes Park is a town
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 02, 2016, 02:32:38 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26803725433/

This one has to be very odd and interesting and might even be unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 02, 2016, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 02, 2016, 02:32:38 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26803725433/

This one has to be very odd and interesting and might even be unique.
What road are they talking about there?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 02, 2016, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on June 02, 2016, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 02, 2016, 02:32:38 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26803725433/

This one has to be very odd and interesting and might even be unique.
What road are they talking about there?

None is needed.  Disney World extracts a hefty toll from everyone who visits.

Might be Ossecola Parkway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on June 02, 2016, 02:15:41 PM
Osceola, but yes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 02, 2016, 05:27:02 PM
Check out this unusual service mileage sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4939629,-90.4998646,3a,75y,299.91h,78.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTLKNhBor8rneLeWpckXIWw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). It's on the wrong side of the highway and advertises exits that are several miles away. The intended audience: Drivers who would be using the left lanes to go north (contraflow) during a hurricane evacuation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 02, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on June 02, 2016, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 02, 2016, 02:32:38 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26803725433/

This one has to be very odd and interesting and might even be unique.
What road are they talking about there?
Good question and its the Osceola Parkway.  Its looking NB on Poinciana Blvd. at the actually roadway above and the tolled WB ramp just under the underpass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 03, 2016, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 02, 2016, 05:27:02 PM
Check out this unusual service mileage sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4939629,-90.4998646,3a,75y,299.91h,78.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTLKNhBor8rneLeWpckXIWw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). It's on the wrong side of the highway and advertises exits that are several miles away. The intended audience: Drivers who would be using the left lanes to go north (contraflow) during a hurricane evacuation.

That IS interesting... Are those guaranteed service points though?  As in, they'll be open, and won't run out of gas or food because they'll be governmentally supplied during an emergency evacuation requiring contraflow lane usage?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 03, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 03, 2016, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 02, 2016, 05:27:02 PM
Check out this unusual service mileage sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4939629,-90.4998646,3a,75y,299.91h,78.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTLKNhBor8rneLeWpckXIWw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). It's on the wrong side of the highway and advertises exits that are several miles away. The intended audience: Drivers who would be using the left lanes to go north (contraflow) during a hurricane evacuation.

That IS interesting... Are those guaranteed service points though?  As in, they'll be open, and won't run out of gas or food because they'll be governmentally supplied during an emergency evacuation requiring contraflow lane usage?

How does anyone guarantee any of those things will be available?  If the electric is out, there's not much they can do if they don't have generators.  If a gas station runs out of gas, it's not like they have a direct line into an oil field to pump more in.

They're service signs.  Not emergency shelters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on June 03, 2016, 01:04:28 PM
This one is in northwest Portland, posted at either end of NW 29th Av between Raleigh and Savier.  I think it's a PBOT custom design, because I've never seen them elsewhere.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fv4X0LG9.png&hash=e77dc990fe174724d62e155261b00ed7c88043b9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 03, 2016, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 03, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 03, 2016, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 02, 2016, 05:27:02 PM
Check out this unusual service mileage sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4939629,-90.4998646,3a,75y,299.91h,78.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTLKNhBor8rneLeWpckXIWw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). It's on the wrong side of the highway and advertises exits that are several miles away. The intended audience: Drivers who would be using the left lanes to go north (contraflow) during a hurricane evacuation.

That IS interesting... Are those guaranteed service points though?  As in, they'll be open, and won't run out of gas or food because they'll be governmentally supplied during an emergency evacuation requiring contraflow lane usage?

How does anyone guarantee any of those things will be available?  If the electric is out, there's not much they can do if they don't have generators.  If a gas station runs out of gas, it's not like they have a direct line into an oil field to pump more in.

They're service signs.  Not emergency shelters.

They're the only two exits between Hammond and the state line that have an appreciable number of services (the towns of Amite and Kentwood). I suspect that state and parish police would close off all of the southbound on-ramps other than these two to keep people from entering the interstate into contraflowing traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Is Wichita the only place with this much overkill for frontage road signage?
https://goo.gl/maps/nC5WxzpRts82
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Is Wichita the only place with this much overkill for frontage road signage?
https://goo.gl/maps/nC5WxzpRts82

No. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4354404,-90.0835657,3a,75y,35.41h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC01i6fiSx0pvpdYhjKG6GA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Is Wichita the only place with this much overkill for frontage road signage?
https://goo.gl/maps/nC5WxzpRts82

No. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4354404,-90.0835657,3a,75y,35.41h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC01i6fiSx0pvpdYhjKG6GA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

But that's the opposite situation:  exit signage from a major highway.  Texas would be full of examples like that, where no route number is assigned to an exit.  My example is signage on a surface street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Is Wichita the only place with this much overkill for frontage road signage?
https://goo.gl/maps/nC5WxzpRts82

No. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4354404,-90.0835657,3a,75y,35.41h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC01i6fiSx0pvpdYhjKG6GA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

But that's the opposite situation:  exit signage from a major highway.  Texas would be full of examples like that, where no route number is assigned to an exit.  My example is signage on a surface street.

You didn't clarify that you're referring specifically to signage on the frontage road itself.

Is this a one-off or one of many such signs? Perhaps there is a good reason to call that much attention to the frontage road at that particular point.

The example I posted is definitely an example of overkill. This is not an exit but an ordinary intersection. There is no justification for signing this intersection like an exit, especially with an overhead gantry.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 04, 2016, 04:13:23 PM
MA 28 at I-495, Exit 41 has overhead signs. MA 28 is not a frontage road, but it is a surface road here. The entrance to I-495 has "Exit ->" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 04:41:54 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Is Wichita the only place with this much overkill for frontage road signage?
https://goo.gl/maps/nC5WxzpRts82

No. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4354404,-90.0835657,3a,75y,35.41h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC01i6fiSx0pvpdYhjKG6GA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

But that's the opposite situation:  exit signage from a major highway.  Texas would be full of examples like that, where no route number is assigned to an exit.  My example is signage on a surface street.

You didn't clarify that you're referring specifically to signage on the frontage road itself.

Is this a one-off or one of many such signs? Perhaps there is a good reason to call that much attention to the frontage road at that particular point.

The example I posted is definitely an example of overkill. This is not an exit but an ordinary intersection. There is no justification for signing this intersection like an exit, especially with an overhead gantry.

Not a one-off. No good reason for the overkill; trust me, it's less than a mile from my house.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on June 06, 2016, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 04:41:54 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 04, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 04, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Is Wichita the only place with this much overkill for frontage road signage?
https://goo.gl/maps/nC5WxzpRts82

No. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4354404,-90.0835657,3a,75y,35.41h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC01i6fiSx0pvpdYhjKG6GA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

But that's the opposite situation:  exit signage from a major highway.  Texas would be full of examples like that, where no route number is assigned to an exit.  My example is signage on a surface street.

You didn't clarify that you're referring specifically to signage on the frontage road itself.

Is this a one-off or one of many such signs? Perhaps there is a good reason to call that much attention to the frontage road at that particular point.

The example I posted is definitely an example of overkill. This is not an exit but an ordinary intersection. There is no justification for signing this intersection like an exit, especially with an overhead gantry.

Not a one-off. No good reason for the overkill; trust me, it's less than a mile from my house.
Why is this overkill? If you're on the frontage road you probably either just exited from the freeway or are looking for an entrance. Why is providing signage for both of these overkill? The only way I can think of to improve it is to list the destinations from the exit itself (Oliver in this case)  instead of just saying "Frontage Road"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 08, 2016, 08:07:47 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26912637193/in/dateposted-public/

Need I say more!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 08, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
I've never quite understood why "only" was necessary for lane-use signs ... seems at least one Puyallup, Wash. engineer, several years ago, agreed with me (I saw this out walking yesterday):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV77Tqbr.jpg&hash=7607a8c6a69a19b6edf5b20e4aeb87fa221c8415)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 08, 2016, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 08, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
I've never quite understood why "only" was necessary for lane-use signs ... seems at least one Puyallup, Wash. engineer, several years ago, agreed with me (I saw this out walking yesterday):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV77Tqbr.jpg&hash=7607a8c6a69a19b6edf5b20e4aeb87fa221c8415)

It looks weird. There's room in there to add the ONLY legend; it might look better if the margins were adjusted to account for the lack of text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 08, 2016, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: vtk on June 08, 2016, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 08, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
I've never quite understood why "only" was necessary for lane-use signs ... seems at least one Puyallup, Wash. engineer, several years ago, agreed with me (I saw this out walking yesterday):

http://i.imgur.com/V77Tqbr.jpg

It looks weird. There's room in there to add the ONLY legend; it might look better if the margins were adjusted to account for the lack of text.

Perhaps they just forgot to apply the "only" legend. The old signs used full-height arrows, interestingly: https://goo.gl/I3tskD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on June 08, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Ah that reminds me of this little gem in Vancouver BC, which was removed when the intersection was converted to a roundabout a few years ago.  Location: https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2 (https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fkcprfx3.png&hash=d417d79c9f804b84ca3efdabf518a168b616152e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jet380 on June 09, 2016, 09:51:32 AM
The text label for this sign on Mitchell Freeway looks like it was printed as 'ADDED LANES' and the 'S' removed afterwards.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMXtiax3.png%3F1&hash=a71f07a44458199b85b261dee18c2f7adbfd4c72)
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.9426388,115.8456388,3a,76.9y,321.45h,78.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8-N27PR2AwvrMUjRm2JpwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.9426388,115.8456388,3a,76.9y,321.45h,78.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8-N27PR2AwvrMUjRm2JpwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 09, 2016, 10:19:46 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_State_Route_7#/media/File:Georgia_State_Route_7_Alternate_end,_Valdosta.JPG
This one here is interesting due to the fact that two US 41 shields are here side by side, even though one per direction, the fact that a TO US 41 assembly was not decided to be used is quite odd.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/27560334365/in/dateposted-public/
This one is one of many in the State of Georgia.  At many highway junctions where concurrencies meet you will have a bunch of LGSes listing two control points of the said routes.  Most of them, however, are on double guy mast arms, but this one here in Downtown Valdosta got to be a span wire assembly.  For me I find these to be quite fascinating and in a way unique as many states do not sign junctions like GA does here and in other areas of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on June 09, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
From GSV...an old speed limit sign in Glenbain, Saskatchewan (just off SK 19):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.851076,-107.0165682,3a,75y,163.06h,70.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbWor-Vv3se981k1Z6gKIVw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.851076,-107.0165682,3a,75y,163.06h,70.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbWor-Vv3se981k1Z6gKIVw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

25 MPH roughly equals 40 km/h, the usual speed limit in Saskatchewan rural communities.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on June 09, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
From GSV...an old speed limit sign in Glenbain, Saskatchewan (just off SK 19):

25 MPH roughly equals 40 km/h, the usual speed limit in Saskatchewan rural communities.

That looks like a US-spec sign, though.  I'm used to seeing "MAXIMUM 100" or whatever as speed-limit signs in Canada.  Wouldn't the old standard have then been "MAXIMUM 25"?

Oregon, apparently, doesn't feel the need for "LIMIT" on speed limit signs: "SPEED 55."  Then there's New York and their verbose "STATE SPEED LIMIT 55" or "VILLAGE SPEED LIMIT 30."  Who cares what the jurisdiction imposing the limit is?  "SPEED LIMIT" is sufficient.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 09, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Then there's New York and their verbose "STATE SPEED LIMIT 55" or "VILLAGE SPEED LIMIT 30."  Who cares what the jurisdiction imposing the limit is?  "SPEED LIMIT" is sufficient.

I would care if I were to turn off onto a side road that had no posted speed limit.  In that case, I would know what the general state or village speed was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on June 09, 2016, 05:20:00 PM
I know this (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.0452532,-123.0560888,3a,20y,202.32h,94.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s92Jgbp8v9HoNN4MQqd4nRA!2e0!5s20150801T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) is on a trail, but what is going on with those arrows??
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 09, 2016, 08:36:17 PM
This one here is not so much the sign design, but the fact that PennDOT is inconsistent and ignores a whole entire route number.  https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9878385,-75.2390432,3a,75y,138.31h,93.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWRq3DHVamggCSti54t_dVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
You will see how on the next exit PennDOT engineers did sign Main Street as US 209 Business, however they left off PA 611 for the Ninth Street Exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 09, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on June 09, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
From GSV...an old speed limit sign in Glenbain, Saskatchewan (just off SK 19):

25 MPH roughly equals 40 km/h, the usual speed limit in Saskatchewan rural communities.

Is it me, or that sign looks embossed (or button copy)? If that is the case, and it's imperial, that should be in The Best of Road Signs thread.

Quote from: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
That looks like a US-spec sign, though.  I'm used to seeing "MAXIMUM 100" or whatever as speed-limit signs in Canada.  Wouldn't the old standard have then been "MAXIMUM 25"?

You mean like this?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/MetricatedSpeedLimitSignBoltonON2011.jpg/576px-MetricatedSpeedLimitSignBoltonON2011.jpg)

I'm pretty sure that sign is gone now, though it's possible it's still there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 10, 2016, 09:02:07 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 09, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Then there's New York and their verbose "STATE SPEED LIMIT 55" or "VILLAGE SPEED LIMIT 30."  Who cares what the jurisdiction imposing the limit is?  "SPEED LIMIT" is sufficient.

I would care if I were to turn off onto a side road that had no posted speed limit.  In that case, I would know what the general state or village speed was.

I got my driver's license (and permit, before that) in New York.  The permit test book stated that "if there is no posted speed limit on a road in New York State, the speed limit defaults to the state speed limit of 55."  No mention of other states.  Granted, this was in 1994 and the laws may have changed since then, but that's at least what NY does, which is the state we're talking about here.  I suppose it's nit-picky -- you're asking for an accident if you take a quiet residential street at 55 -- but that's what the law is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 10, 2016, 09:04:04 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 09, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
You mean like this?

Yes, exactly.  I'm not sure what Saskatchewan does, but this seems to be the standard in the three provinces I've been to (ON, QC, and NL).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on June 10, 2016, 10:07:05 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 09, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Then there's New York and their verbose "STATE SPEED LIMIT 55" or "VILLAGE SPEED LIMIT 30."  Who cares what the jurisdiction imposing the limit is?  "SPEED LIMIT" is sufficient.

I would care if I were to turn off onto a side road that had no posted speed limit.  In that case, I would know what the general state or village speed was.

It actually ends up being a little less verbose than many places where you can see signs like "City of XYZ.  Speed Limit 30 Unless Otherwise Posted." or something similar.  Of course the "defaults" are overridden in some places.  In Amsterdam, for example, the limit on Church Street, carrying NY 67 for most of its length, is posted very frequently at (an unreasonably low) 25.  So if I turn off of Church onto one of the side streets, the "City Speed Limit" tells me the limit is back up to 30 without the need for the city to post a sign on every side street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on June 10, 2016, 10:13:42 AM
A couple of bilingual old-skool Yield signs from Northern New Brunswick:

Kedgwick (corner of St-Jean-Baptiste and St-Andre, by the Fatima Theatre):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.6462747,-67.3504079,3a,75y,309.76h,75.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smCR0f8tYKeQHy7do1JYpaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.6462747,-67.3504079,3a,75y,309.76h,75.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smCR0f8tYKeQHy7do1JYpaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

St-Quentin (corner of Industrielle and Labrie, a two-fer showing old and new Yield signs):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.5045988,-67.3957938,3a,75y,342.59h,87.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH4T9MOa3qo9K_AP6-FvziA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DH4T9MOa3qo9K_AP6-FvziA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D24.76602%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.5045988,-67.3957938,3a,75y,342.59h,87.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH4T9MOa3qo9K_AP6-FvziA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DH4T9MOa3qo9K_AP6-FvziA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D24.76602%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

Stop signs in both communities are mainly bilingual, but the odd French-only sign can be found...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on June 10, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 09, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on June 09, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
From GSV...an old speed limit sign in Glenbain, Saskatchewan (just off SK 19):

25 MPH roughly equals 40 km/h, the usual speed limit in Saskatchewan rural communities.

Is it me, or that sign looks embossed (or button copy)? If that is the case, and it's imperial, that should be in The Best of Road Signs thread.

Quote from: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
That looks like a US-spec sign, though.  I'm used to seeing "MAXIMUM 100" or whatever as speed-limit signs in Canada.  Wouldn't the old standard have then been "MAXIMUM 25"?

You mean like this?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/MetricatedSpeedLimitSignBoltonON2011.jpg/576px-MetricatedSpeedLimitSignBoltonON2011.jpg)

I'm pretty sure that sign is gone now, though it's possible it's still there.

I nominate this for "Best of Road Signs".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 11, 2016, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 10, 2016, 09:02:07 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 09, 2016, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 09, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Then there's New York and their verbose "STATE SPEED LIMIT 55" or "VILLAGE SPEED LIMIT 30."  Who cares what the jurisdiction imposing the limit is?  "SPEED LIMIT" is sufficient.

I would care if I were to turn off onto a side road that had no posted speed limit.  In that case, I would know what the general state or village speed was.

I got my driver's license (and permit, before that) in New York.  The permit test book stated that "if there is no posted speed limit on a road in New York State, the speed limit defaults to the state speed limit of 55."  No mention of other states.  Granted, this was in 1994 and the laws may have changed since then, but that's at least what NY does, which is the state we're talking about here.  I suppose it's nit-picky -- you're asking for an accident if you take a quiet residential street at 55 -- but that's what the law is.
It's a bit more nuanced than that.  Zones such as "city speed limit 30", "area speed limit 35", etc. override that.  Basically, whatever "[word] speed limit XX" sign you last saw is the limit to assume if you don't see something posted unless you pass an "end XX limit" sign or a different "[word] speed limit YY" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on June 12, 2016, 02:14:42 AM
Service logo signs without a service type (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0404198,-123.07585,3a,31.9y,105.58h,91.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8cn0sH8a-aUOEGK669bd_Q!2e0!5s20130901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) can't be very common... This one used be a gas logo sign, but the legend was plated over at some point even though the logo stayed the same.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2016, 02:57:38 AM
Quote from: jay8g on June 12, 2016, 02:14:42 AM
Service logo signs without a service type (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0404198,-123.07585,3a,31.9y,105.58h,91.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8cn0sH8a-aUOEGK669bd_Q!2e0!5s20130901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) can't be very common... This one used be a gas logo sign, but the legend was plated over at some point even though the logo stayed the same.

Interesting predicament. Anyone here know if propane is one of the services offered by logo sign adverts? I know that the MUTCD has a propane symbol (http://goo.gl/9vkxtX), but that's generally reserved for generic service signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 12, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2016, 02:57:38 AM
Quote from: jay8g on June 12, 2016, 02:14:42 AM
Service logo signs without a service type (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0404198,-123.07585,3a,31.9y,105.58h,91.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8cn0sH8a-aUOEGK669bd_Q!2e0!5s20130901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) can't be very common... This one used be a gas logo sign, but the legend was plated over at some point even though the logo stayed the same.

Interesting predicament. Anyone here know if propane is one of the services offered by logo sign adverts? I know that the MUTCD has a propane symbol (http://goo.gl/9vkxtX), but that's generally reserved for generic service signs.

Is that EV (electric vehicle) sign ever used? I don't recall ever seeing it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2016, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 12, 2016, 11:38:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2016, 02:57:38 AM
Quote from: jay8g on June 12, 2016, 02:14:42 AM
Service logo signs without a service type (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0404198,-123.07585,3a,31.9y,105.58h,91.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8cn0sH8a-aUOEGK669bd_Q!2e0!5s20130901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) can't be very common... This one used be a gas logo sign, but the legend was plated over at some point even though the logo stayed the same.

Interesting predicament. Anyone here know if propane is one of the services offered by logo sign adverts? I know that the MUTCD has a propane symbol (http://goo.gl/9vkxtX), but that's generally reserved for generic service signs.

Is that EV (electric vehicle) sign ever used? I don't recall ever seeing it.

Yes, definitely. At least in Oregon and Washington. Here's a rather lengthy article about EV signage: http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com/evsigns.htm

Here's a GMaps link of an example: https://goo.gl/U53vSv
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 12, 2016, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: opspe on June 08, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Ah that reminds me of this little gem in Vancouver BC, which was removed when the intersection was converted to a roundabout a few years ago.  Location: https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2 (https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fkcprfx3.png&hash=d417d79c9f804b84ca3efdabf518a168b616152e)

What is equally interesting is the use of 'ONLY' on the pavement in the right turn lane in the Aug 2015 streetview. I haven't seen that anywhere else in the country.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 12, 2016, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: opspe on June 08, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Ah that reminds me of this little gem in Vancouver BC, which was removed when the intersection was converted to a roundabout a few years ago.  Location: https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2 (https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2)

http://i.imgur.com/kcprfx3.png

What is equally interesting is the use of 'ONLY' on the pavement in the right turn lane in the Aug 2015 streetview. I haven't seen that anywhere else in the country.

I always thought the "only" bit was redundant, so I'm not pleased to see this making its way up north. Though, it doesn't surprise me. BC's design manual seems to borrow a lot from the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Not a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7276084,-74.1239705,3a,75y,56.01h,90.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_l_TKjFppWyKVqEDEdd9lA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) per say, but Series D button-copy no less along Long Beach Township, NJ.

This one's tough to see via GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6929008,-74.1423034,3a,75y,160.32h,75.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0jStnlrNzz-2tW3EiwWeYA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) but it's actually a wrong-way sign directed towards cyclists that ride against the flow of vehicular traffic along Long Beach Blvd. (CR 607).

Single-Digit Country Route shield (CR 6) on street blade sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6806318,-74.2385755,3a,75y,134.44h,75.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sElxcIw0V83Z07cN1vSwZrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) in Stafford Twp. (Ocean County), NJ for Mill Creek Rd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Single-Digit Country Route shield (CR 6) on street blade sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6806318,-74.2385755,3a,75y,134.44h,75.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sElxcIw0V83Z07cN1vSwZrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) in Stafford Twp. (Ocean County), NJ for Mill Creek Rd.

Is this uncommon in New Jersey (route shields on street blades)? This is a very common practice here in the NW.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 13, 2016, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Single-Digit Country Route shield (CR 6) on street blade sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6806318,-74.2385755,3a,75y,134.44h,75.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sElxcIw0V83Z07cN1vSwZrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) in Stafford Twp. (Ocean County), NJ for Mill Creek Rd.

Is this uncommon in New Jersey (route shields on street blades)? This is a very common practice here in the NW.

It's fairly common in NJ, in fact, that's about the only place I have ever seen it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 13, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Single-Digit Country Route shield (CR 6) on street blade sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6806318,-74.2385755,3a,75y,134.44h,75.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sElxcIw0V83Z07cN1vSwZrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) in Stafford Twp. (Ocean County), NJ for Mill Creek Rd.

Is this uncommon in New Jersey (route shields on street blades)? This is a very common practice here in the NW.

It's uncommon to have a single digit county route in NJ.  Most county routes are 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  2 counties (or 3) have an older system for county routes which allows them to have single and double digit county routes. 

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2016, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 13, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Single-Digit Country Route shield (CR 6) on street blade sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6806318,-74.2385755,3a,75y,134.44h,75.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sElxcIw0V83Z07cN1vSwZrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) in Stafford Twp. (Ocean County), NJ for Mill Creek Rd.

Is this uncommon in New Jersey (route shields on street blades)? This is a very common practice here in the NW.

It's uncommon to have a single digit county route in NJ.  Most county routes are 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  2 counties (or 3) have an older system for county routes which allows them to have single and double digit county routes.

I wasn't sure if it was the route or the street blade that was unique. My mistake.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 13, 2016, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 13, 2016, 12:15:15 PM

It's uncommon to have a single digit county route in NJ.  Most county routes are 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  2 counties (or 3) have an older system for county routes which allows them to have single and double digit county routes.

My understanding was that NJ's 5xx routes were actually considered secondary routes and maintained by the state, even though they are signed as county routes, whereas the 6xx (and possibly 7xx) routes were "true" county routes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on June 13, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 13, 2016, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 13, 2016, 12:15:15 PM

It's uncommon to have a single digit county route in NJ.  Most county routes are 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  2 counties (or 3) have an older system for county routes which allows them to have single and double digit county routes.

My understanding was that NJ's 5xx routes were actually considered secondary routes and maintained by the state, even though they are signed as county routes, whereas the 6xx (and possibly 7xx) routes were "true" county routes.

Correct. Also there's even a few 8xx routes out there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on June 13, 2016, 05:02:16 PM
It's not really odd or interesting, but wasn't sure where else to post it.

Minnesota goes ahead and fully embraces the "winter and road construction" jokes.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13428379_615362555294464_3439252412788549999_n.jpg?oh=759f5e2cb807a5aa0e45d348676e94b4&oe=57D1BA04)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on June 14, 2016, 01:27:09 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 13, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
Single-Digit Country Route shield (CR 6) on street blade sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6806318,-74.2385755,3a,75y,134.44h,75.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sElxcIw0V83Z07cN1vSwZrg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) in Stafford Twp. (Ocean County), NJ for Mill Creek Rd.

Is this uncommon in New Jersey (route shields on street blades)? This is a very common practice here in the NW.

It's uncommon to have a single digit county route in NJ.  Most county routes are 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  2 counties (or 3) have an older system for county routes which allows them to have single and double digit county routes. 


Bergen County, aside from using single and double-digit county routes, also still signs them on white squares and not blue pentagons (except on traffic light blades)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: peterj920 on June 15, 2016, 01:29:27 AM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FybLIHWQ.jpg&hash=cf437c1016ba47b82cc3dc67724a051447ee0a1d) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)

The OK for a lane that could turn left or go straight was very common in Wisconsin on freeway off ramps at one time.  Most of them have been replaced in the last few years and do not have anything under the arrows. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on June 15, 2016, 08:01:35 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_100-109_images%2F108_sign_CLMarkingsEnd.jpg&hash=bfd8bbda1b845a01d78fb0b79cb52abcd93a9c68)
Unique signage at the end of Highway 108 in Ontario.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 15, 2016, 08:27:51 AM
Quote from: ekt8750 on June 13, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 13, 2016, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 13, 2016, 12:15:15 PM

It's uncommon to have a single digit county route in NJ.  Most county routes are 5xx, 6xx & 7xx.  2 counties (or 3) have an older system for county routes which allows them to have single and double digit county routes.

My understanding was that NJ's 5xx routes were actually considered secondary routes and maintained by the state, even though they are signed as county routes, whereas the 6xx (and possibly 7xx) routes were "true" county routes.

Correct. Also there's even a few 8xx routes out there.

Nope...all county routes are maintained by the counties (generally speaking).  5xx routes are generally primary county routes which tend to go longer distances and have heavier traffic counts.  They are also generally the first to be plowed.  They can also transverse several counties.  And there will only be one of each 5xx in the state (ie: there's only one 501, 502, etc).  6xx and 7xx routes tend to be more localized and contained within the county, although it's not terribly uncommon for a road to go from one county to another to have the same number.   Those route numbers can be repeated as well throughout the state.  There could be a Rt. 601 in Gloucester County and another Rt. 601 in Middlesex County, completely unrelated to each other. 

There's only one 8xx route in the state, and it's unsigned.

There are rare occasions where the state may be the primary agency for a county route.  There's also cases where the county is the primary agency for a state route as well (NJ 347 & a portion of US 322 are examples).  But there's no real rhyme as to which routes are maintained by other agencies...it's all up to individual agreements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 15, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: peterj920 on June 15, 2016, 01:29:27 AM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?


The OK for a lane that could turn left or go straight was very common in Wisconsin on freeway off ramps at one time.  Most of them have been replaced in the last few years and do not have anything under the arrows.

Generally I only see "OK" in situations like this:  https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4455976,-77.3958664,3a,49.4y,210.75h,80.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqQwAtoB-s9YEXT1_LEWwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 15, 2016, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 15, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: peterj920 on June 15, 2016, 01:29:27 AM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?


The OK for a lane that could turn left or go straight was very common in Wisconsin on freeway off ramps at one time.  Most of them have been replaced in the last few years and do not have anything under the arrows.




Generally I only see "OK" in situations like this:  https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4455976,-77.3958664,3a,49.4y,210.75h,80.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqQwAtoB-s9YEXT1_LEWwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I always thought this was a little weird:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4152532,-93.7908066,3a,19.1y,122.71h,95.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7TL3yzzHE23olQ6B97pVKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 15, 2016, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 15, 2016, 11:11:36 AM
Quote from: peterj920 on June 15, 2016, 01:29:27 AM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?


The OK for a lane that could turn left or go straight was very common in Wisconsin on freeway off ramps at one time.  Most of them have been replaced in the last few years and do not have anything under the arrows.

Generally I only see "OK" in situations like this:  https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4455976,-77.3958664,3a,49.4y,210.75h,80.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqQwAtoB-s9YEXT1_LEWwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I've seen New York City use "OK" and "NO" at intersections. Yes, "NO" is actually bolded.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on June 15, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
BC at it again, with its sunburst signs and irregular typefaces.  This one's from Saanich.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FALQlXMZ.png&hash=5474221a9d440ecfffd5054ecee61930048cd582)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 16, 2016, 01:18:44 AM
Quote from: peterj920 on June 15, 2016, 01:29:27 AM
Quote from: talllguy on November 11, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
OK? Is it normal to put OK?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FybLIHWQ.jpg&hash=cf437c1016ba47b82cc3dc67724a051447ee0a1d) (http://imgur.com/ybLIHWQ)

The OK for a lane that could turn left or go straight was very common in Wisconsin on freeway off ramps at one time.  Most of them have been replaced in the last few years and do not have anything under the arrows.

I used to see this on some lane assignment signage in the Las Vegas for optional lanes. I feel like it was an old MUTCD standard or option that is no longer present.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on June 16, 2016, 07:13:09 AM
I saw "OK" occasionally in Georgia back in the '90s on overhead lane assignment signage like that, though as I recall it was limited to lanes from which you could turn either left or right. I don't think I saw it with a straight movement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 16, 2016, 06:55:13 PM
I see the "OK" message around Seattle on the ground sometimes:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOGTTm8c.png&hash=6ab081d6a13a6dbee848c96255f04b4f4e9cbe38)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 17, 2016, 07:26:45 PM
Took a trip down to Birmingham, AL yesterday and saw several unique signs.
Cullman, AL on I-65:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7065/27702835526_b3d76ffd44.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jd1gRh)Exit 310 (https://flic.kr/p/Jd1gRh) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Gardendale, AL:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7403/27458744330_1713d022ac.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HQrf3o)Robin Dr (https://flic.kr/p/HQrf3o) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7315/27702835376_8f1d2685e9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jd1gNG)Dooley Rd (https://flic.kr/p/Jd1gNG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7391/27458744070_88488e08c1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HQreXU)Speed Limit 35 Strictly Enforced (https://flic.kr/p/HQreXU) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7324/27662060061_e8176a655f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J9phJ2)Pedestrian Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/J9phJ2) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7288/27458743780_43aba0d8a9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HQreSU)Black Creek Park (https://flic.kr/p/HQreSU) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Cordova:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7179/27636087802_20008b950b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J77b5s)Caution! (https://flic.kr/p/J77b5s) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7355/27662060521_22cd64600c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J9phRX)Caution! (https://flic.kr/p/J9phRX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This APL at the end of I-22 in Birmingham appears to use Caltrans spec arrows? They seem to be shorter than standard ones:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7538/27636087462_78f614ef07.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J77aYA)APL sign (https://flic.kr/p/J77aYA) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And then I saw these in downtown Birmingham:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7652/27662060221_1c03373d40.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J9phLM)Stop Sign (https://flic.kr/p/J9phLM) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7463/27636087222_b5fe469efa.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J77aUs)One Way (https://flic.kr/p/J77aUs) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7735/27636086732_4b876ef3b9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J77aL1)Pedestrian Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/J77aL1) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MASTERNC on June 17, 2016, 08:34:08 PM
Posted this in the PA Turnpike thread, but thought some might not see it there since it also applies to this sign topic.

I was on the PA Turnpike today and encountered a new graphic (wordless) sign they are using in the construction zone near Carlisle (they displayed it on the VMS and on freestanding signs).  It is a long white rectangular sign and shows two trucks side by side, bordered by side profiles of guard rail on the right and median on the left.  A green circle surrounds the truck in the left lane while a red "no" symbol is over the truck in the right lane (indicating trucks are to be in the left lane).  It reminds me somewhat of the European "no passing" signs but it uses the same color circles as the small hazmat signs you sometimes see in the Midwest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 17, 2016, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on June 17, 2016, 08:34:08 PM
Posted this in the PA Turnpike thread, but thought some might not see it there since it also applies to this sign topic.

I was on the PA Turnpike today and encountered a new graphic (wordless) sign they are using in the construction zone near Carlisle (they displayed it on the VMS and on freestanding signs).  It is a long white rectangular sign and shows two trucks side by side, bordered by side profiles of guard rail on the right and median on the left.  A green circle surrounds the truck in the left lane while a red "no" symbol is over the truck in the right lane (indicating trucks are to be in the left lane).  It reminds me somewhat of the European "no passing" signs but it uses the same color circles as the small hazmat signs you sometimes see in the Midwest.

Trucks are required to be in the left lane? I thought that they were prohibited from the left lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 17, 2016, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 17, 2016, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on June 17, 2016, 08:34:08 PM
Posted this in the PA Turnpike thread, but thought some might not see it there since it also applies to this sign topic.

I was on the PA Turnpike today and encountered a new graphic (wordless) sign they are using in the construction zone near Carlisle (they displayed it on the VMS and on freestanding signs).  It is a long white rectangular sign and shows two trucks side by side, bordered by side profiles of guard rail on the right and median on the left.  A green circle surrounds the truck in the left lane while a red "no" symbol is over the truck in the right lane (indicating trucks are to be in the left lane).  It reminds me somewhat of the European "no passing" signs but it uses the same color circles as the small hazmat signs you sometimes see in the Midwest.

Trucks are required to be in the left lane? I thought that they were prohibited from the left lane.

In some construction zones (see added emphasis above), the right lane is on the shoulder, which may not have the same structural capacity as the travel lanes. Quite common, except the sign is usually all-text ("trucks use left lane").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MASTERNC on June 17, 2016, 11:16:53 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 17, 2016, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 17, 2016, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: MASTERNC on June 17, 2016, 08:34:08 PM
Posted this in the PA Turnpike thread, but thought some might not see it there since it also applies to this sign topic.

I was on the PA Turnpike today and encountered a new graphic (wordless) sign they are using in the construction zone near Carlisle (they displayed it on the VMS and on freestanding signs).  It is a long white rectangular sign and shows two trucks side by side, bordered by side profiles of guard rail on the right and median on the left.  A green circle surrounds the truck in the left lane while a red "no" symbol is over the truck in the right lane (indicating trucks are to be in the left lane).  It reminds me somewhat of the European "no passing" signs but it uses the same color circles as the small hazmat signs you sometimes see in the Midwest.

Trucks are required to be in the left lane? I thought that they were prohibited from the left lane.

In some construction zones (see added emphasis above), the right lane is on the shoulder, which may not have the same structural capacity as the travel lanes. Quite common, except the sign is usually all-text ("trucks use left lane").

That, and the Turnpike sometimes has one lane narrower than the other in construction zones (trucks are restricted to the wider lane).

This is normally signed with a text sign "Trucks Buses Left Lane Only", and a few of the text signs were also present. This was the first time a non-text sign has been used for this anywhere I've seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on June 18, 2016, 07:22:55 AM
So, what happens when the truck driver gets pulled over for being in the wrong lane and tells the cop "Yeah, I saw the signs, don't know what the hell those cartoons meant though. Nope I never saw any sign that said 'TRUCKS USE LEFT LANE ONLY' " He would kinda be telling the truth, in a twisted sort of way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 18, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 18, 2016, 07:22:55 AM
So, what happens when the truck driver gets pulled over for being in the wrong lane and tells the cop "Yeah, I saw the signs, don't know what the hell those cartoons meant though. Nope I never saw any sign that said 'TRUCKS USE LEFT LANE ONLY' " He would kinda be telling the truth, in a twisted sort of way.

If you can't decipher a green circle and a red circle with a slash through it, then I doubt you have the capacity to secure a CDL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 18, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
Finally got a picture of this a few days ago. On Plain City — Georgesville Rd (Madison CR 7; erroneously assumed by many roadgeeks to be former OH 142) a bit north of Lucas Rd, there's one of these in each direction.  They were put up a few years ago, IIRC.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi109.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn68%2Fvidthekid%2Foddsign-tetris-1643a.jpg&hash=e61e3e428a7bc8a36cd977119f00d3e0566e2cc1)

[Edit: replaced with cropped & reduced file]
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on June 19, 2016, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on June 15, 2016, 08:01:35 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_100-109_images%2F108_sign_CLMarkingsEnd.jpg&hash=bfd8bbda1b845a01d78fb0b79cb52abcd93a9c68)
Unique signage at the end of Highway 108 in Ontario.
Reminds me of this (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0247945,-122.995213,3a,15y,91.77h,93.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDeoDWjUBTt_QOQ6g5k4ZEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), which is actually rather common in Clallam County... (Sorry about the quality; it says "Caution / Narrow road / No center line / Edge stripe only")
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 19, 2016, 12:48:37 AM
Guess the US really loves Helvetica as much as BC. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/PA-995,+Pennsylvania/@39.9341038,-77.6946781,3a,60y,284.13h,86.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skQQx9PFUqhbt-33dFdwLiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c9859f79f17f2f:0xa428d69e0edcd8f6!8m2!3d39.8465811!4d-77.8016273) The unfortunate thing is that I pass by these signs every day and they've been up since 2006, when we moved here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 19, 2016, 01:34:08 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on June 19, 2016, 12:48:37 AM
Guess the US really loves Helvetica as much as BC. (https://www.google.com/maps/place/PA-995,+Pennsylvania/@39.9341038,-77.6946781,3a,60y,284.13h,86.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skQQx9PFUqhbt-33dFdwLiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c9859f79f17f2f:0xa428d69e0edcd8f6!8m2!3d39.8465811!4d-77.8016273) The unfortunate thing is that I pass by these signs every day and they've been up since 2006, when we moved here.

Helvetica isn't too uncommon in the US. Seattle has some old Helvetica street blades:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8Vqc3sB.png&hash=6412a6aeeb7d712174c41e2abb8adea342de40c7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 19, 2016, 03:06:32 PM
Quote from: vtk on June 18, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
Finally got a picture of this a few days ago. On Plain City — Georgesville Rd (Madison CR 7; erroneously assumed by many roadgeeks to be former OH 142) a bit north of Lucas Rd, there's one of these in each direction.  They were put up a few years ago, IIRC.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi109.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn68%2Fvidthekid%2Foddsign-tetris-1643a.jpg&hash=e61e3e428a7bc8a36cd977119f00d3e0566e2cc1)

[Edit: replaced with cropped & reduced file]

Excellent addition to the thread!  I love (yet also hate) nonstandard curve warning signs like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 19, 2016, 03:08:18 PM
^ Is that a curve warning? I thought it was for offset intersections...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MASTERNC on June 19, 2016, 09:17:20 PM
Was able to snap a photo of the graphic truck restriction sign on the PA Turnpike on my way home today.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F20uvfx2.jpg&hash=9c19b3d71a19ab29b34223c95fa3eea9cb0f35b3)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on June 19, 2016, 10:12:53 PM
Fixed it a little for ya! Couldn't make the crop bigger without making the picture all blurry!  :paranoid:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ff65x0BV.jpg&hash=91ba87100a3387c14d30047370c9815fd206c8b8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BamaZeus on June 20, 2016, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: roadfro on June 19, 2016, 03:08:18 PM
^ Is that a curve warning? I thought it was for offset intersections...

All I know is that it's a difficult piece to put down in Tetris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 20, 2016, 01:14:18 PM
How about this, where I-283 splits off I-83 in Harrisburg, PA?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2536371,-76.8119867,3a,75y,226h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slobo5APmHlnKmYCwglVAXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Is it even to Interstate standards for a 2di to go down to a single lane, even on an exit ramp?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on June 20, 2016, 01:59:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 18, 2016, 07:22:55 AM
So, what happens when the truck driver gets pulled over for being in the wrong lane and tells the cop "Yeah, I saw the signs, don't know what the hell those cartoons meant though. Nope I never saw any sign that said 'TRUCKS USE LEFT LANE ONLY' " He would kinda be telling the truth, in a twisted sort of way.

If you can't decipher a green circle and a red circle with a slash through it, then I doubt you have the capacity to secure a CDL.

Then explain the many overheight trucks that have struck overpasses. lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on June 20, 2016, 03:05:36 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on June 20, 2016, 01:59:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 18, 2016, 07:22:55 AM
So, what happens when the truck driver gets pulled over for being in the wrong lane and tells the cop "Yeah, I saw the signs, don't know what the hell those cartoons meant though. Nope I never saw any sign that said 'TRUCKS USE LEFT LANE ONLY' " He would kinda be telling the truth, in a twisted sort of way.

If you can't decipher a green circle and a red circle with a slash through it, then I doubt you have the capacity to secure a CDL.

Then explain the many overheight trucks that have struck overpasses. lol

I'm not so sure many who have CDLs actually earned them.  In Illinois, we did have a major scandal over a decade ago with CDLs being sold for campaign contributions to a former governor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ryan) who spent some time in the federal pen after his conviction.

Google "Operation Safe Road".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on June 21, 2016, 04:56:20 AM
Quote from: tckma on June 20, 2016, 01:14:18 PM
How about this, where I-283 splits off I-83 in Harrisburg, PA?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2536371,-76.8119867,3a,75y,226h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slobo5APmHlnKmYCwglVAXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Is it even to Interstate standards for a 2di to go down to a single lane, even on an exit ramp?
Apparently it was good enough in the 1960's.  Interstate 83 through Harrisburg, even south of Harrisburg, built the way it was, would not have been approved for interstate status in the present time.  We might have had a US 111 now instead of I-83!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on June 21, 2016, 11:45:23 AM
Quote from: BamaZeus on June 20, 2016, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: roadfro on June 19, 2016, 03:08:18 PM
^ Is that a curve warning? I thought it was for offset intersections...

All I know is that it's a difficult piece to put down in Tetris

Theme song earworm initiated.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 22, 2016, 11:28:41 PM
Spotted in Athens, AL:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7056/27814927506_25eea5f5a7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JnULTC)Forklift Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/JnULTC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 22, 2016, 11:38:43 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 22, 2016, 11:28:41 PM
Spotted in Athens, AL:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7056/27814927506_25eea5f5a7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JnULTC)Forklift Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/JnULTC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

I feel like I've seen a pictorial example of this sign somewhere before too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on June 23, 2016, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on June 21, 2016, 04:56:20 AM
Quote from: tckma on June 20, 2016, 01:14:18 PM
How about this, where I-283 splits off I-83 in Harrisburg, PA?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2536371,-76.8119867,3a,75y,226h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slobo5APmHlnKmYCwglVAXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

Is it even to Interstate standards for a 2di to go down to a single lane, even on an exit ramp?
Apparently it was good enough in the 1960's.  Interstate 83 through Harrisburg, even south of Harrisburg, built the way it was, would not have been approved for interstate status in the present time.  We might have had a US 111 now instead of I-83!

It happens to I-80 in Portage, IN too. Westbound, 80 leaves the Indiana Toll Road and enters the Borman Expressway via a one-lane ramp. The ramp bridge leaving the ITR was replaced recently, but the new one is still one lane. Going east, 80 leaves the Borman via a one-lane loop. Going both directions, traffic has to weave in the area that used to contain the toll booths.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 23, 2016, 11:17:27 PM
Here's an odd set-up in Georgia with a few interesting signs, might be qualified for poor sign placement too if the "Low Ground Clearance" sign is right in front of the other ones:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9389808,-84.2151106,3a,17.6y,258.32h,89.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgKnDYfN54fIvePwMZ9LtPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 23, 2016, 11:50:01 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/MQiA4MUjoCp
'PLEASE LET BUSES ENTER'

Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 12, 2016, 03:44:58 PM
Quote from: opspe on June 08, 2016, 10:57:42 PM
Ah that reminds me of this little gem in Vancouver BC, which was removed when the intersection was converted to a roundabout a few years ago.  Location: https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2 (https://goo.gl/maps/fe686W83KiD2)

http://i.imgur.com/kcprfx3.png

What is equally interesting is the use of 'ONLY' on the pavement in the right turn lane in the Aug 2015 streetview. I haven't seen that anywhere else in the country.

I always thought the "only" bit was redundant, so I'm not pleased to see this making its way up north. Though, it doesn't surprise me. BC's design manual seems to borrow a lot from the US.

Found this today: https://goo.gl/maps/5V74cKr4K8E2
The tab is relatively new too (installed sometime 2012-2014). FHWA font as a bonus. This intersection is going to be upgraded to interchange though, so it won't be there for long.

Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 23, 2016, 11:17:27 PM
Here's an odd set-up in Georgia with a few interesting signs, might be qualified for poor sign placement too if the "Low Ground Clearance" sign is right in front of the other ones:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9389808,-84.2151106,3a,17.6y,258.32h,89.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgKnDYfN54fIvePwMZ9LtPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Are the strictly enforced tabs standard?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on June 24, 2016, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 23, 2016, 11:50:01 PM
Found this today: https://goo.gl/maps/5V74cKr4K8E2
The tab is relatively new too (installed sometime 2012-2014). FHWA font as a bonus. This intersection is going to be upgraded to interchange though, so it won't be there for long.

What was unusual about my original post was the fact that the signs were diamond-shaped as opposed to square.  There's actually a few signs identical to that (though without the tab) on Hwy 1 southbound just over the Second Narrows in Vancouver.  I always thought that was weird, considering lane control signs rarely if ever get used on freeways:

https://goo.gl/maps/gmKMssJWCbB2 (https://goo.gl/maps/gmKMssJWCbB2)
https://goo.gl/maps/ECLLxeQnHkP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/ECLLxeQnHkP2)

I would have thought the MOT would have got rid of them when they upgraded the bridge's sidewalks last year and installed new APL signs.  Especially because of the APL signs, even.  My only guess is that they're trying to indicate the McGill St exit peels off from the Hastings St exit.  But again, that's what the APL signs are for, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on June 24, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
A different take on the Quebec and francophone New Brunswick "Watch Out for Our Kids-One of Them May Be Yours" from Preissac, Quebec (just off R-395):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.4079963,-78.3657484,3a,90y,202.56h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAC5yRbBZ20fvtHomLkw6XA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.4079963,-78.3657484,3a,90y,202.56h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAC5yRbBZ20fvtHomLkw6XA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

The tab translates as "Be Vigilant".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 24, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on June 24, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
The tab translates as "Be Vigilant".

If I remember my French, that's the "nous" form of the verb, meaning "Let's be vigilant."  Not the usual form of the command which would be "Soyez Vigilant" or "[You] be vigilant."  Not sure the distinction matters much, but I view it as less of a "We know you're a terrible driver, but because our children are around we expect you to straighten up for a little while" (-George Carlin) and more of a polite thing.

Personally, I've always thought "Drive slowly, we love our children" are two unrelated phrases when placed on a road sign.  But then, I don't have or want kids.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 24, 2016, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 24, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
Personally, I've always thought "Drive slowly, we love our children" are two unrelated phrases when placed on a road sign.  But then, I don't have or want kids.

Yeah. Go ahead and mow down all the grownups you want.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on June 24, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Quote from: opspe on June 24, 2016, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 23, 2016, 11:50:01 PM
Found this today: https://goo.gl/maps/5V74cKr4K8E2
The tab is relatively new too (installed sometime 2012-2014). FHWA font as a bonus. This intersection is going to be upgraded to interchange though, so it won't be there for long.

What was unusual about my original post was the fact that the signs were diamond-shaped as opposed to square.  There's actually a few signs identical to that (though without the tab) on Hwy 1 southbound just over the Second Narrows in Vancouver.  I always thought that was weird, considering lane control signs rarely if ever get used on freeways:

https://goo.gl/maps/gmKMssJWCbB2 (https://goo.gl/maps/gmKMssJWCbB2)
https://goo.gl/maps/ECLLxeQnHkP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/ECLLxeQnHkP2)

I would have thought the MOT would have got rid of them when they upgraded the bridge's sidewalks last year and installed new APL signs.  Especially because of the APL signs, even.  My only guess is that they're trying to indicate the McGill St exit peels off from the Hastings St exit.  But again, that's what the APL signs are for, right?

I know your post was for the diamond sign, I was referring to the use of ONLY on the pavement next to the diamond sign. In my post, I wasn't referring to the white on black standard sign, but the ONLY tab beneath it.

Quote from: Bluenoser on June 24, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
A different take on the Quebec and francophone New Brunswick "Watch Out for Our Kids-One of Them May Be Yours" from Preissac, Quebec (just off R-395):

https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.4079963,-78.3657484,3a,90y,202.56h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAC5yRbBZ20fvtHomLkw6XA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.4079963,-78.3657484,3a,90y,202.56h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAC5yRbBZ20fvtHomLkw6XA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)

The tab translates as "Be Vigilant".

I like it, but there's no way anyone from a distance can make out the details of that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on June 26, 2016, 04:27:28 AM
In downtown Los Angeles, this sign on CA 110 appears to be aimed at just one person:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi96.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl200%2Fmrkf%2F110N%2520JMWd_zpsyil0rdqx.jpg&hash=2b2c1242e994c619fe64fb8563845dac0f50c778)

Actually it is for James M. Wood Blvd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on June 26, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
Just outside Panguitch UT, taken today:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSRK6fIx.jpg&hash=66c08d6ca1508c8c7dafb309ad43d12db7fe1431)

Makes me wonder ... how many other signs tell you where you aren't? (Mildly tempted to start a thread on that topic.)

ETA: Interestingly, this is at least the third version of this sign to be posted at this location, dating back to at least 2001:
http://www.roadtripamerica.com/signs/not89.htm
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/devotions/lundell-not-89.aspx
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on June 26, 2016, 07:29:10 PM
That's the only one I've heard of.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on June 26, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
This one is probably on the internet already, but in Maquoketa, Iowa, there is a circular "City Route 61" sign on the former alignment of US 61:  Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0575675,-90.6654361,3a,22.8y,45.88h,79.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfxf8Cs8U1a2qHq3tXAfCzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 27, 2016, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 26, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
Makes me wonder ... how many other signs tell you where you aren't? (Mildly tempted to start a thread on that topic.)

MD-68 is NOT I-68 (from Wikipedia):

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/MD68notI68.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
Telling you where you're not is not very helpful. At the very least it should tell you how to get back to US 89. The MD sign is a different story because it's at a point where you can make a decision *and* it tells you what to do (although the real solution there is to not duplicate route numbers in a way that will cause confusion). Although, I'm half tempted to put up "This is NOT I-95" signs on the NJ Turnpike (south of where it's I-95 of course), just to confuse the hell out of everyone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 28, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
Somewhere in Virginia...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2008_VA_NC%2FImages%2F349.jpg&hash=82b08bd765f802be97dc16a197be2840477cb8c7)

Context: http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2008_VA_NC/Pages/349.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 28, 2016, 01:26:18 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 28, 2016, 12:33:22 PM
Somewhere in Virginia...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2008_VA_NC%2FImages%2F349.jpg&hash=82b08bd765f802be97dc16a197be2840477cb8c7)

Context: http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2008_VA_NC/Pages/349.html

If I squint my eyes to blur the difference in shades of white, then all I end up seeing is a route marker with vampire teeth.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kacie Jane on June 28, 2016, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
Telling you where you're not is not very helpful. At the very least it should tell you how to get back to US 89.

The sign is just outside of town, not long after you've made a wrong turn.  (Well, wrong "non-turn".)  I would hope most people are smart enough to assume that the way back to 89 is a U-turn back into town.... but then again, if most people were close to that smart, this sign wouldn't be necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mwb1848 on June 28, 2016, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 27, 2016, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 26, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
Makes me wonder ... how many other signs tell you where you aren't? (Mildly tempted to start a thread on that topic.)

MD-68 is NOT I-68 (from Wikipedia):

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/MD68notI68.jpg)

That's a threat I'd like to see.

Meanwhile, here's a GSV of a similiar situation on I-12 in Louisiana:

https://goo.gl/maps/nbWe6xHneBS2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 28, 2016, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: mwb1848 on June 28, 2016, 04:22:02 PM
That's a threat I'd like to see.

Read that again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on June 28, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
Arguably the best single reason Connecticut doesn't duplicate state routes with US routes and Interstates. You won't find state routes 1, 5, 6, 7, 44, 84, 91, 95, 202 or 291 here. We did have state route 291 in the past. That went away once the Bissell Bridge over the Connecticut River became a part of I-291 in 1994.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on June 28, 2016, 07:31:57 PM
A not-too-standard way of posting T-routes (town) in Clintwood, VA: (note the stenciled numbers and the 'T' added as an afterthought)
https://goo.gl/maps/dngDZV8vka32
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 28, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on June 28, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
Arguably the best single reason Connecticut doesn't duplicate state routes with US routes and Interstates. You won't find state routes 1, 5, 6, 7, 44, 84, 91, 95, 202 or 291 here. We did have state route 291 in the past. That went away once the Bissell Bridge over the Connecticut River became a part of I-291 in 1994.

CT 20 is still too close to the Massachusetts border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on June 28, 2016, 07:40:33 PM
I think there's a FM 121 outside of the Dallas/Fort Worth area separate from the 121 that goes to the airport with a sign at the exit saying "DFW TRAFFIC DO NOT EXIT".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on June 28, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
Arguably the best single reason Connecticut doesn't duplicate state routes with US routes and Interstates. You won't find state routes 1, 5, 6, 7, 44, 84, 91, 95, 202 or 291 here. We did have state route 291 in the past. That went away once the Bissell Bridge over the Connecticut River became a part of I-291 in 1994.

CT 20 is still too close to the Massachusetts border.

You also won't see a CT 90 (too close to the Mass Pike; ).  CT 93 existed at one time, but was renumbered as 169 because MA was forced to renumber its portion of the road due to a conflict with I-93.  CT also had a conflict with I-87 and CT 87 before I-87 became I-684.  Most New England states won't duplicate state routes with US routes and interstates.  The only exception I can think of is I-295 and MA 295, which are over a hundred miles apart and only exist because they are extensions of roads that connect to another state.  NJ and DE are the same. NY and PA will duplicate interstates and state routes (if far enough away), but generally will not allow duplicates of state routes and US routes, the only exception being US 2 and NY 2 (the US 2 section is 0.9 mi).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 28, 2016, 08:51:16 PM
Quote from: mwb1848 on June 28, 2016, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 27, 2016, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 26, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
Makes me wonder ... how many other signs tell you where you aren't? (Mildly tempted to start a thread on that topic.)

MD-68 is NOT I-68 (from Wikipedia):



That's a threat I'd like to see.

Meanwhile, here's a GSV of a similiar situation on I-12 in Louisiana:

https://goo.gl/maps/nbWe6xHneBS2


US 220 at VA 40 has one of these as well...

https://goo.gl/maps/pygXFPiPGjJ2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 29, 2016, 12:30:51 AM
Does anyone have a picture of the white on black (yes, a "big black sign") button copy along US 219 south of Ridgway, PA? As of this afternoon, it was still directing trucks and cars to their separate paths. Definitely unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 29, 2016, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PM
NY and PA will duplicate interstates and state routes (if far enough away), but generally will not allow duplicates of state routes and US routes, the only exception being US 2 and NY 2 (the US 2 section is 0.9 mi).
Don't forget US 220 and NY 220 (though we like to pretend that US 220 doesn't enter NY).

Also I-90 and NY 90 are notable, but there's no interchange, and I-90 is maintained by the Thruway Authority for most of its length, which I think is a factor (note that all the cases where an interstate and NY route would have been maintained by the same region (for example, former NY 87 and I-87 both exist in and are maintained by Region 7; former NY 84 and I-84 both exist in and are maintained by Region 8) got renumbered and the others didn't).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 29, 2016, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PM
NY and PA will duplicate interstates and state routes (if far enough away), but generally will not allow duplicates of state routes and US routes, the only exception being US 2 and NY 2 (the US 2 section is 0.9 mi).

As someone who went to college in Ithaca, I present NY-90:  Reasonably close to I-90, with both NY-90 and I-90 accessible via NY-96.  One might also argue that NY-5 is reasonably close to US-5, though the latter does not enter New York State.

NY also has a tendency to continue non-Interstate designated routes with a state route of the same number: I-787/NY-787, I-878/NY-878, I-495/NY-495 (before the extension through Manhattan was cancelled), and so forth.

PA actually has reassurance markers along interstates saying, for example, "SR81" on I-81 just like they have, for example "SR194" on PA-194.  I suppose to a state highway department, it really makes no difference apart from who supplies the money for maintenance of the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 29, 2016, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 29, 2016, 01:36:00 PM
As someone who went to college in Ithaca, I present NY-90:  Reasonably close to I-90, with both NY-90 and I-90 accessible via NY-96.  One might also argue that NY-5 is reasonably close to US-5, though the latter does not enter New York State.

NY 7 is closer to US 7 than NY 5 is to US 5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on June 29, 2016, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PM
Most New England states won't duplicate state routes with US routes and interstates.  The only exception I can think of is I-295 and MA 295, which are over a hundred miles apart and only exist because they are extensions of roads that connect to another state.  NJ and DE are the same.
While it is true that NJ has a zero duplication policy (except for county routes), Delaware is pretty horrible. Both DE 9 and US 9 cross DE 1. DE 202 intersects US 202 and is in fact the thru route because US 202 enters I-95 at that interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 29, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 29, 2016, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 29, 2016, 01:36:00 PM
As someone who went to college in Ithaca, I present NY-90:  Reasonably close to I-90, with both NY-90 and I-90 accessible via NY-96.  One might also argue that NY-5 is reasonably close to US-5, though the latter does not enter New York State.

NY 7 is closer to US 7 than NY 5 is to US 5.

There are even multiple trailblazer and reassurance assemblies in the Bennington area that contain BOTH.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on June 29, 2016, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PMMost New England states won't duplicate state routes with US routes and interstates.  The only exception I can think of is I-295 and MA 295, which are over a hundred miles apart and only exist because they are extensions of roads that connect to another state.
Don't forget about US 3 & MA 3; granted MassDOT treats those as one route based on the mile markers.

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PMPA will duplicate interstates and state routes (if far enough away), but generally will not allow duplicates of state routes and US routes
I-283 & PA 283 plus US 222 & PA 222; although the latter is likely viewed as one route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 29, 2016, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 29, 2016, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PMMost New England states won't duplicate state routes with US routes and interstates.  The only exception I can think of is I-295 and MA 295, which are over a hundred miles apart and only exist because they are extensions of roads that connect to another state.
Don't forget about US 3 & MA 3; granted MassDOT treats those as one route based on the mile markers.

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PMPA will duplicate interstates and state routes (if far enough away), but generally will not allow duplicates of state routes and US routes
I-283 & PA 283 plus US 222 & PA 222; although the latter is likely viewed as one route.

US/PA 222 is consideted by PennDOT to be a single route (SR 222). PA 283 is officially SR 300.

New York allows for duplications because Interstates are considered to be NY XXXI. US 2 is, likewise, NY 2U. Of course, the US/NY 7 duplication might be the most confusing, as they are separated by 4 miles with at least one assembly containing shields for both US 7 and NY 7.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on June 29, 2016, 06:14:26 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 29, 2016, 03:06:59 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on June 28, 2016, 08:17:14 PM
Most New England states won't duplicate state routes with US routes and interstates.  The only exception I can think of is I-295 and MA 295, which are over a hundred miles apart and only exist because they are extensions of roads that connect to another state.  NJ and DE are the same.
While it is true that NJ has a zero duplication policy (except for county routes), Delaware is pretty horrible. Both DE 9 and US 9 cross DE 1. DE 202 intersects US 202 and is in fact the thru route because US 202 enters I-95 at that interchange.

I pass by this assembly (https://goo.gl/maps/9o24Vg6aXaT2) pretty frequently, and I can imagine it's confusing for motorists who don't know both of those are separate roads. If you can't tell from the unnecessary censoring by Google Maps, the bottom shield is for DE 202.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 01, 2016, 02:39:20 AM
On the subject of route duplication, Alabama doesn't duplicate US Routes with State Routes (so there won't be a US 31 and an AL 31), but they do allow duplicates of Interstates. However, they seem to exist far enough away from the respective interstates that it doesn't really affect anything.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 01, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
Posted at the most accident ridden intersection in the city.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7564/27405564074_edd4893d1f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HKJFpq)
High Collision Location Sign (https://flic.kr/p/HKJFpq) by Sign Geek (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135438121@N07/), on Flickr

I feel like the problem may have to do with the traffic lights and the speed that motorists go on both roads intersecting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: opspe on July 01, 2016, 01:21:38 PM
That reminds me of this, perhaps one of the most morbid signs out there:

https://goo.gl/maps/keQ5gG1E6FG2 (https://goo.gl/maps/keQ5gG1E6FG2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
A few weird signs I found in Florida:

Odd "Watch for Children" sign in Port St. Joe, saw a number of them through-out the rest of the area as well:
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7515/27640450084_393bd07e02.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7uwQd)Odd Watch For Children Sign (https://flic.kr/p/J7uwQd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

An I-10 trailblazer with a 3di blank near Chattahoochee:
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8601/27640422543_6c1a342c1d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7uoDn)To I-10 (https://flic.kr/p/J7uoDn) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

"Slow Hump Ahead" in Quincy, FL, IIRC:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8785/28151990162_02f9f8c93c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JTGiSJ)Slow Hump Ahead (https://flic.kr/p/JTGiSJ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7uw7Q)Slow Hump Ahead (https://flic.kr/p/J7uw7Q) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

An odd pedestrian crossing(?) sign in Panama City, FL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8756/27640446224_d1ebacba3b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7uvFE)Odd Pedestrian Crossing Sign (https://flic.kr/p/J7uvFE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8628/27640420443_46c807f786.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7uo2a)Odd Pedestrian Crossing Sign (https://flic.kr/p/J7uo2a) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And now for a few Alabama signs:

The "East" on this sign on I-65 appears to have been an afterthought:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7352/28221760416_098196af89.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JZRU99)Exit 181 (https://flic.kr/p/JZRU99) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

A malformed AL 271 shield in Montgomery. This appears to be a 3-digit variant of those ugly AL 33 shields in Moulton, AL: :crazy:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/28221762006_e7536632c3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUBy)State-named I-85 Shields on BGSs (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUBy) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

The shields on the sign on the right also look to be a bit low: (photo taken by my brother)
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7304/28151992332_ccfea8c3e6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JTGjw9)State-named I-65 Shield on BGS (https://flic.kr/p/JTGjw9) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on July 12, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg)

Is this an invitation, or an advisory that there's an opportunity for voyeurism ahead?  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on July 12, 2016, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 12, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg)

Is this an invitation, or an advisory that there's an opportunity for voyeurism ahead?  :-D :-D :-D

My guess is the latter, since the window is already fogged up...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 02:15:58 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 12, 2016, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 12, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg)

Is this an invitation, or an advisory that there's an opportunity for voyeurism ahead?  :-D :-D :-D

My guess is the latter, since the window is already fogged up...
I honestly don't know, all I know is that it's now my forum avatar. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 12, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
Hopefully no one has posted this already...

I found these signs in Quebec (I specifically saw them a lot in the Eastern Townships) to be both creepy and funny at the same time
(https://littlemrsknowitall.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/unknown.jpg)

It roughly translates as "Watch our children as if they were yours"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 12, 2016, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 12, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg)

Is this an invitation, or an advisory that there's an opportunity for voyeurism ahead?  :-D :-D :-D

Only on Wednesdays.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 12, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 12, 2016, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 12, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg)

Is this an invitation, or an advisory that there's an opportunity for voyeurism ahead?  :-D :-D :-D

Only on Wednesdays.

hahahahaha
Guess what dayyyyyyyyyy it iiiiiiiiiiiiis!!  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 13, 2016, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 12, 2016, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 12, 2016, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 12, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8871/27640447684_a2b8e4619e.jpg)

Is this an invitation, or an advisory that there's an opportunity for voyeurism ahead?  :-D :-D :-D

Only on Wednesdays.

hahahahaha
Guess what dayyyyyyyyyy it iiiiiiiiiiiiis!!  :bigass:
Today is Wednesday. So where do I slowly hump ahead?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on July 13, 2016, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 12, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
Hopefully no one has posted this already...

I found these signs in Quebec (I specifically saw them a lot in the Eastern Townships) to be both creepy and funny at the same time
(https://littlemrsknowitall.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/unknown.jpg)

It roughly translates as "Watch our children as if they were yours"

I've also come across that sign in some francophone communities in New Brunswick as well...here's a bilingual two-fer from Grand-Cascapedia on SB R-299, a few miles north of New Richmond:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.2618479,-65.8923037,3a,75y,248.39h,78.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNMAZ68Mwk7-dbf6nPpurjA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.2618479,-65.8923037,3a,75y,248.39h,78.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNMAZ68Mwk7-dbf6nPpurjA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on July 14, 2016, 05:22:17 PM
Found in Lake Wales, FL, this morning.  If only the truck wasn't floating, it might fit.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBO9G44g.jpg&hash=8f5be9e7be9a6688267a09d1cf9585a7a6f9029d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 14, 2016, 05:30:29 PM
^^  Low bridge 12 feet 6 inches ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 14, 2016, 09:40:50 PM
This one is uncommon (at least in Ontario at least). Usually we post pictorial merge signs instead. This sign is on River Rd just south of Ottawa Rd N in Kitchener. The dark background also looks ominous.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeOpshyw.jpg&hash=25788251c78ef84b18d08a8b869f33739ebbc10b)

This sign on Midland Dr (also in Kitchener) looks very old-fashioned. I like the hiker, but the pennyfarthing is what makes me laugh. Even my family likes this one :-D There are a couple others similar to this in the area.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5Itk13F.jpg&hash=9927a32151a61daa5e2134ceb52ca27b9976ded2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 15, 2016, 06:10:16 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FIMG_3181_zpse27tzuh7.jpg&hash=614f04f1109fd07585e3c830df42e62b74cd4431)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on July 16, 2016, 09:28:51 PM
I don't have a refined eye like some folks here do, but this seemed like an ugly Florida outline.  What do you think?.  Found in Titusville:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSz98CS1.jpg&hash=4a8b521ccc1fe3b829d67121da4fbb6a731f361b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 16, 2016, 10:30:07 PM
Never seen this one before. Does it really need to be said?

https://goo.gl/maps/4XauGUJ8qBF2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 16, 2016, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 16, 2016, 10:30:07 PM
Never seen this one before. Does it really need to be said?

https://goo.gl/maps/4XauGUJ8qBF2

Good find! :) Even if there was a street on the right, why would that sign be necessary?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on July 17, 2016, 03:09:19 PM
Cambridge MA - Brookline Ave near Memorial Dr.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cambridge,+MA/@42.3550913,-71.1102364,3a,16.1y,248.82h,90.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seR4xYrFZBqO2EUxgnPsEJw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeR4xYrFZBqO2EUxgnPsEJw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D139.63353%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89e370a5cb30cc5f:0xc53a8e6489686c87!8m2!3d42.3736158!4d-71.1097335!6m1!1e1

Really, there are no words...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 18, 2016, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 16, 2016, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 16, 2016, 10:30:07 PM
Never seen this one before. Does it really need to be said?

https://goo.gl/maps/4XauGUJ8qBF2

Good find! :) Even if there was a street on the right, why would that sign be necessary?

Because there are some places where the law prohibits right turn on red unless otherwise signed. From what I understand, New York City is one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 18, 2016, 10:00:52 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 16, 2016, 10:49:38 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 16, 2016, 10:30:07 PM
Never seen this one before. Does it really need to be said?

https://goo.gl/maps/4XauGUJ8qBF2

Good find! :) Even if there was a street on the right, why would that sign be necessary?

Because there are some places where the law prohibits right turn on red unless otherwise signed. From what I understand, New York City is one.

Good point, I guess I should specified that it's weird to see that sign in Ontario.

I found this sign in Waterloo at a single-lane roundabout:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4700063,-80.5951506,19z (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4700063,-80.5951506,19z)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoTHmzWH.jpg&hash=5115e64896abc9b960413f9908e48eacd33daf09)

Most of the roundabouts I've seen use a regular yield sign at the roundabout, with this sign before the roundabout:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4493811,-80.5909786,19z (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4493811,-80.5909786,19z)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYSSUtLK.jpg&hash=64dbc429bb973153c7cea2f69f1aeb4daeb4bbd6)

The first sign I posted seems like a combination of the yield sign and the second sign, which I think is cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
I've noticed that there is a lot of variation in speed limit signs on the municipal roads in Waterloo Region, so I decided to take some pictures. All of these signs were taken in Cambridge, ON.

Here are two standard speed limit signs for reference (both taken on Beaverdale Rd between Hespeler Rd and Maple Grove Rd). The first one omitting the "km/h" is more common on municipal and regional roads, while the second one is more common on provincial highways.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg33QPT0.jpg&hash=96096d54b40828103118975831dc589e7a21b95c)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNNmdtMO.jpg&hash=2ce6201d6b9960f4e7f131f711354110acf1bd4b)

Here are two signs with thin-squarish font. The first one is on Speedsville Rd south of Maple Grove Rd, and the second one is on Old Maple Grove Rd.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjTfGRyN.jpg&hash=67000065b5211451e78022e2341a202fafbde694)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0xQ9YiB.jpg&hash=a403c013ddba45e024a134ccdf873b9bb0ee1f10)

This one on Speedsville Rd north of Middle Block Rd has a bold-roundish font.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUP6TWsR.jpg&hash=50ef709b4b84cfd0fdc5227300801338e0347408)

And arguably the strangest one, this one has a bold font, but also includes the "km/h" as black-on-white together with the rest of the sign!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKOa36my.jpg&hash=788316c3bfac0212957247aae51056972e66430b)

I've seen a couple interesting ones in Waterloo I plan on taking pictures of next week :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 18, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
And arguably the strangest one, this one has a bold font, but also includes the "km/h" as black-on-white together with the rest of the sign!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKOa36my.jpg&hash=788316c3bfac0212957247aae51056972e66430b)

Looks like one of the BC speed limit signs floated cross-country:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F1890232%2Fimages%2Fo-BC-HIGHWAY-SPEED-LIMIT-facebook.jpg&hash=939bb839faf24f556af3ed6fd793ed230160dd36)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 18, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
And arguably the strangest one, this one has a bold font, but also includes the "km/h" as black-on-white together with the rest of the sign!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKOa36my.jpg&hash=788316c3bfac0212957247aae51056972e66430b)

Looks like one of the BC speed limit signs floated cross-country:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.huffpost.com%2Fgen%2F1890232%2Fimages%2Fo-BC-HIGHWAY-SPEED-LIMIT-facebook.jpg&hash=939bb839faf24f556af3ed6fd793ed230160dd36)

It does look pretty similar, eh? :)

Could Ontario borrow some of those 120 km/h signs?  ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 18, 2016, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
Could Ontario borrow some of those 120 km/h signs?  ;-)

Sure! Once they get with the times.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 22, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 18, 2016, 05:49:12 PM
I've seen a couple interesting ones in Waterloo I plan on taking pictures of next week :)

I ended up taking the pictures this week, so here's some more speed limit signs! :) I'll also note that some of these ones say "C of K" (i.e. City of Kitchener) even though they're all in Waterloo :eyebrow: The second last sign is the easiest one for reading the "C of K"

The 6 looks a bit more bolded than the 0 (it's more pronounced from a distance). It also seems a bit out of alignment vertically. This one is on Columbia St west of Hagey Blvd.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fk03w8K8.jpg&hash=38b4e67dd852b6bf1bccdf698b8f01040923bc58)

I was taking pictures for work and I sneaked in the speed limit sign ;-) This one has a bolded, though nice looking, font. This is on Woolwich St west of Kiwanis Park Dr.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRaaeDQ8.jpg&hash=6b0056d1a9195a2f50c74250c5086192b0bc2aae)

The first one is a standard font sign on Erbsville Rd north of Columbia St. The second one I found to be more subtle, though now that I'm looking at the photo, it's easy to tell them apart. It's found on Wideman Rd west of Erbsville Rd.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDvREfzI.jpg&hash=582cecdf67d679a53609a9bc7e312b6c55370f27)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fypm9ZDv.jpg&hash=854c54902fbf48e13a4f11ad4d4e33c60e2797c0)

A round, bold font sign on Benjamin Rd west of Weber St (I guess this is technically in Woolwich since this road is the dividing line between the city and township)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlMkVjNk.jpg&hash=dba51fcd46c0cef2ebea950c1d230e5ea751b675)

Lastly, a ridiculously bold and strange font on this one from Lexington Rd west of Bridge St
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fg8P8kAY.jpg&hash=b28f2bc96e7049cbf8a85c9a86ff75583d08c99c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 23, 2016, 10:37:04 AM
ATV crossing:

https://goo.gl/maps/F5tYf2WKroJ2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 23, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
DETOUR BY WAY OF NOODLE (https://goo.gl/maps/Ke3o4PxxjWD2)

2 different curve warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/juXScpeVSHz)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 23, 2016, 03:50:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
DETOUR BY WAY OF NOODLE (https://goo.gl/maps/Ke3o4PxxjWD2)
Alright, I give up. What the fuck is this sign trying to say?  :confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on July 23, 2016, 03:59:23 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 23, 2016, 03:50:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
DETOUR BY WAY OF NOODLE (https://goo.gl/maps/Ke3o4PxxjWD2)
Alright, I give up. What the fuck is this sign trying to say?  :confused:
Noodle is a small settlement on FM 1812.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 23, 2016, 04:03:47 PM
That's exactly it.  The sign is immediately after the turn to Noodle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 23, 2016, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
DETOUR BY WAY OF NOODLE (https://goo.gl/maps/Ke3o4PxxjWD2)

2 different curve warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/juXScpeVSHz)

We're not authorized to discuss the details of The Noodle Incident.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bootmii on July 24, 2016, 12:28:37 AM
Quote from: NE2 on December 04, 2013, 10:54:27 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpjObipl.jpg&hash=c0df5c84624b3c118140bb096ad73e2acd72c51f)
This is Zombocom, welcome to Zombocom. (http://www.zombo.com)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 24, 2016, 07:51:02 AM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
DETOUR BY WAY OF NOODLE (https://goo.gl/maps/Ke3o4PxxjWD2)

2 different curve warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/juXScpeVSHz)

Any instances like the dual curve signs in other places?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
Good luck reading this from the road:

https://goo.gl/maps/fFv3xouDRjT2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 24, 2016, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
Good luck reading this from the road:

https://goo.gl/maps/pGZHw6dh9xM2
Are we supposed to see nothing but brown?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 24, 2016, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
Good luck reading this from the road:

https://goo.gl/maps/pGZHw6dh9xM2
Are we supposed to see nothing but brown?

Fixed. I don't know why Google does this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 24, 2016, 06:53:25 PM
Are you by any chance using the mouse wheel to zoom in to street view?  That might be why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 24, 2016, 07:57:38 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 24, 2016, 06:53:25 PM
Are you by any chance using the mouse wheel to zoom in to street view?  That might be why.

It was pointed at the ground when I loaded the link.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 09:27:28 PM
Sigh..

This is what I was trying to post:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FCapture_zpsh5bplwx3.jpg&hash=42ad6a3541a4ae796265d439ddf0bc9ed6e5e0f0)

If you can't read it, it says 'Yield to all lanes' and the same in french below it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on July 25, 2016, 11:20:37 AM
One of the tiniest text signs for motorists I've ever seen. Feels quite useless too with the large yield sign already there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 25, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0476832,-97.3387713,3a,15y,166.7h,86.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-JlbfmCMAHo-iXVJ4FHFIg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


Just sayin'
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on July 25, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: riiga on July 25, 2016, 11:20:37 AM
One of the tiniest text signs for motorists I've ever seen. Feels quite useless too with the large yield sign already there.

Reminds me of many signs for yard sales, etc. that people put up expecting motorists to see them--only they write in such insanely tiny lettering on small paper that no one could possibly see it.
Making signage for a bike race, I had lettering nearly 8 inches tall to spell things like FEED ZONE and some people thought the signs were far, far oversized--until they saw them in operation and realized that they were probably at about the bare minimum to be seen by fast-moving bikes as well as lead, follow, and wheel cars and even spectators from a short distance away.  The previous signage was on a single 8.5x11 sheet....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
This is one of my favorite signs and I've seen it in 2012 and 2014, but this afternoon was the first time I had a chance to get a picture. It's near the southern end of Bonaventure Boulevard in Weston, Florida, as you approach Griffin Road. I have no idea what legal authority (statute, city regulation, whatever) supports the sign, and I wonder how many people don't know what "queue" means. But I love the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FCC2BDE26-9BB0-45E9-8220-4BE090FDEC67_zpsgu7e6h1r.jpg&hash=906745d78349053e9da96be701966d6bbecaf07e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 27, 2016, 11:45:12 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 09:27:28 PM
Sigh..

This is what I was trying to post:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FCapture_zpsh5bplwx3.jpg&hash=42ad6a3541a4ae796265d439ddf0bc9ed6e5e0f0)

If you can't read it, it says 'Yield to all lanes' and the same in french below it.

This is a clear case of ts;dr.
Too small don't read XD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 28, 2016, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on July 24, 2016, 09:27:28 PM(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FCapture_zpsh5bplwx3.jpg&hash=42ad6a3541a4ae796265d439ddf0bc9ed6e5e0f0)

If you can't read it, it says 'Yield to all lanes' and the same in french below it.
Such reminds me of the signs PennDOT erected at its Welcome Center along I-95 northbound in Delaware County when the building was completely overhauled several years ago.

The small silver signs were erected first and the small blue signs were added later (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.823071,-75.4385735,3a,75y,72.13h,79.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szjtaVVltl9ltzVzow2LvDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) following my send a complaint letter to PennDOT on the matter.  It's as if the road was being signed for pedestrians and/or bicycles (which aren't allowed on Interstates) rather than motor vehicles.

Certainly doesn't meet MUTCD criteria for sign sizes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 28, 2016, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
This is one of my favorite signs and I've seen it in 2012 and 2014, but this afternoon was the first time I had a chance to get a picture. It's near the southern end of Bonaventure Boulevard in Weston, Florida, as you approach Griffin Road. I have no idea what legal authority (statute, city regulation, whatever) supports the sign, and I wonder how many people don't know what "queue" means. But I love the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FCC2BDE26-9BB0-45E9-8220-4BE090FDEC67_zpsgu7e6h1r.jpg&hash=906745d78349053e9da96be701966d6bbecaf07e)

Well, simply barging your way over into the other lane, regardless of the presence of another vehicle and expecting everyone else to adjust to your maneuver...  That would certainly constitute an illegal lane change.  That's really only an issue in stand-still traffic, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on July 28, 2016, 02:32:59 PM
Was cruising GSV along Sand Canyon Rd in Santa Clarita, CA, area (there have been some bad wildfires there lately).  I found this sign along the road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCLlVOU5.png&hash=179639a9a2932e8ffec8a2e67c8c17fcb8566b85)

The area is a dry Mediterranean climate...I'm wondering what kind of algae might be found on the roadways.  Has anyone ever seen this warning before?

https://goo.gl/maps/ayZh3Hv2zrr
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 28, 2016, 04:35:31 PM
Saw this earlier today at the northbound rest area on I-95 south of Melbourne, Florida. I've never seen a QR code on a sign before (recognizing the HUGE difference between a sign on a wall at a rest area versus a sign on the road itself).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2F43F8A09F-DBCE-4BBA-90D9-7C8BC2C04F5F_zpsn6xv4twe.jpg&hash=d9be719042be226719134fe565bad59ff9bffcc5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on July 28, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2016, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
This is one of my favorite signs and I've seen it in 2012 and 2014, but this afternoon was the first time I had a chance to get a picture. It's near the southern end of Bonaventure Boulevard in Weston, Florida, as you approach Griffin Road. I have no idea what legal authority (statute, city regulation, whatever) supports the sign, and I wonder how many people don't know what "queue" means. But I love the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FCC2BDE26-9BB0-45E9-8220-4BE090FDEC67_zpsgu7e6h1r.jpg&hash=906745d78349053e9da96be701966d6bbecaf07e)

Well, simply barging your way over into the other lane, regardless of the presence of another vehicle and expecting everyone else to adjust to your maneuver...  That would certainly constitute an illegal lane change.  That's really only an issue in stand-still traffic, though.
It's the national sport of aggressive driving in south Florida.  It gets more common and far worse as you progress south from Palm Beach to Broward to Miami-Dade Counties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on July 28, 2016, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: xcellntbuy on July 28, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2016, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
This is one of my favorite signs and I've seen it in 2012 and 2014, but this afternoon was the first time I had a chance to get a picture. It's near the southern end of Bonaventure Boulevard in Weston, Florida, as you approach Griffin Road. I have no idea what legal authority (statute, city regulation, whatever) supports the sign, and I wonder how many people don't know what "queue" means. But I love the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FCC2BDE26-9BB0-45E9-8220-4BE090FDEC67_zpsgu7e6h1r.jpg&hash=906745d78349053e9da96be701966d6bbecaf07e)

Well, simply barging your way over into the other lane, regardless of the presence of another vehicle and expecting everyone else to adjust to your maneuver...  That would certainly constitute an illegal lane change.  That's really only an issue in stand-still traffic, though.
It's the national sport of aggressive driving in south Florida.  It gets more common and far worse as you progress south from Palm Beach to Broward to Miami-Dade Counties.

Damn common among tourons around here as well. Annoys the hell out of me. Queue starts forming 1-2 miles before the exit and some dipshit cuts in, slowing down both lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on July 29, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
From the 'Exit Number Challenge' thread.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages470%2Fi-470_ks_wt_03.jpg&hash=1ffab7c0387f354ffa433bdf5682c73c0d652825)
Interesting that this sign only includes route markers, but with no control cities.
Taken westbound on I-70, west of Topeka, KS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on July 29, 2016, 11:12:22 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 29, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
From the 'Exit Number Challenge' thread.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445)
Interesting that this sign only includes route markers, but with no control cities.
Taken westbound on I-70, west of Topeka, KS.

these aren't that rare as the final signs at major interstate junctions/splits; previous signs will have more detailed guidance and smaller shields. examples:
I-195 EB @ I-95/NJTP (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1977763,-74.6139672,3a,66.8y,126.45h,97.76t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sNUQZQm7r9WyHZ9Y21oiE4A!2e0) in NJ
I-495 NB/IL @ I-270 (spur) in MD (StreetView is broken at the moment)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 29, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Quote from: odditude on July 29, 2016, 11:12:22 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 29, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
From the 'Exit Number Challenge' thread.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445)
Interesting that this sign only includes route markers, but with no control cities.
Taken westbound on I-70, west of Topeka, KS.

these aren't that rare as the final signs at major interstate junctions/splits; previous signs will have more detailed guidance and smaller shields. examples:
I-195 EB @ I-95/NJTP (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1977763,-74.6139672,3a,66.8y,126.45h,97.76t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sNUQZQm7r9WyHZ9Y21oiE4A!2e0) in NJ
I-495 NB/IL @ I-270 (spur) in MD (StreetView is broken at the moment)

This does have directions, but the entire sign display for the Interstate 345, Interstate 45 and Interstate 30 junction in Dallas has no control cities for exits off Interstate 345 and Interstate 45, which I always found odd.  And both directions:

Southbound Interstate 345:  https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7845242,-96.7914566,3a,42.6y,141.04h,94.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szRnVlQYEs2Vo23HlmvHohg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Northbound Interstate 45:  https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7752515,-96.7787549,3a,26.6y,326.44h,91.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn06TWQ8uG-V1r-LZG6h7RQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 29, 2016, 11:32:38 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 29, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
From the 'Exit Number Challenge' thread.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages470%2Fi-470_ks_wt_03.jpg&hash=1ffab7c0387f354ffa433bdf5682c73c0d652825)
Interesting that this sign only includes route markers, but with no control cities.
Taken westbound on I-70, west of Topeka, KS.

It's because there's no real reason to go west and exit to go back east again.  It's almost like they're saying "I don't know why you'd take this exit...but here it is lawl"  I've seen this at a bunch of exit ramps that take you to a road running in the opposite direction (Route A east to route B west, for example).  Also Illinois Tollways don't like control cities for some reason.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on July 30, 2016, 09:09:46 PM
On the ramp from I-85 southbound to I-285 westbound at Spaghetti Junction, north of Atlanta. This appeared one morning on my normal route to work, but the day before I was reassigned to Clemson, SC. I didn't have camera at the ready, and it'd be a week before I could return to get a photo.Imagine the frustration:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYO05P6K.jpg%3F1&hash=2e2d73771d02e8bb05e8c148efd106408d5b336b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 30, 2016, 09:27:22 PM
If you think waiting a week is bad, imagine this scenario: you're getting photos of I-90, but due to sun angle and whatnot, you didn't get a good picture of the welcome sign erected by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority.  15 months later when you finally go on that stretch of road again in the eastbound direction, and MassDOT went ahead and replaced the sign with a standard one before you could get your picture.  This sign is now gone: https://goo.gl/maps/7jkssiL4v5r
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 31, 2016, 06:08:10 PM
NASA has a sense of humor:

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/759871514216919040
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on August 04, 2016, 12:24:51 PM
I noticed this guide sign on an FHWA video (https://archive.org/details/gov.fhwa.ttp.vh-609) about concrete barriers in work areas.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8587/28687385381_da57e395f8_o.png)

I assume this is at the interchange of Nell Street and I-74 in Champaign, IL. Without doing any research, I'll also surmise that the extra wide diamond interchange there was previously a full eight-ramp cloverleaf, and that this SOUTH panel was to distinguish the first Nell Street exit (southbound) from the second (northbound). Was use of this type of large, route-marker-sized black-on-white directional panel standard practice for IDOT at the time?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on August 04, 2016, 01:52:45 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160804%2F73824e68656a6a7c9c37554754275618.jpg&hash=60831b650172222c82122ad5382f1ef3bf16ac93)

Amelia Island, FL
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 04, 2016, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on August 04, 2016, 01:52:45 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160804%2F73824e68656a6a7c9c37554754275618.jpg&hash=60831b650172222c82122ad5382f1ef3bf16ac93)

Amelia Island, FL

There are a bunch of these in the Tallahassee area...well worth the excursions...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on August 08, 2016, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 04, 2016, 08:21:17 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on August 04, 2016, 01:52:45 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160804%2F73824e68656a6a7c9c37554754275618.jpg&hash=60831b650172222c82122ad5382f1ef3bf16ac93)

Amelia Island, FL

There are a bunch of these in the Tallahassee area...well worth the excursions...
What exactly is the problem with the canopy? It obstructs your view up? It makes it a bit darker?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on August 08, 2016, 10:11:13 AM
Low hanging limbs and clearance issues for trucks and RVs

Usually very scenic roads
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 08, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I just drove by this one on Saturday.  I suspect it's not heavily enforced...  :sombrero:

Translation:  60 km/h IN PRESENCE OF BUTTERFLIES

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FMariposas_zpsk2ri7rt1.jpg&hash=5ee09bb2290da66bcf66cd1b5ac95a47c9fb1e4e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 08, 2016, 06:56:33 PM
One more speed limit sign from me, just for good mesaure. :) I found this one on Fourth Ave at Kingsway Dr in Kitchener. The white line in the 4 makes me wonder if a stencil was used for the number.

Sorry for the dirty windshield :-D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGfUS8BR.jpg&hash=9734f1d18d237c4381690900cd4d973e957100e0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 08, 2016, 10:04:49 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 08, 2016, 06:56:33 PM
One more speed limit sign from me, just for good mesaure. :) I found this one on Fourth Ave at Kingsway Dr in Kitchener. The white line in the 4 makes me wonder if a stencil was used for the number.

Sorry for the dirty windshield :-D
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGfUS8BR.jpg&hash=9734f1d18d237c4381690900cd4d973e957100e0)

KYTC District 11 used stenciled numbers, with obvious white lines, for many years, and a new stenciled sign will occasionally make its way onto a signpost via a new installation. I've got a few pics on my site.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on August 09, 2016, 04:51:25 AM
Quote from: kphoger on August 08, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I just drove by this one on Saturday.  I suspect it's not heavily enforced...  :sombrero:

Translation:  37 mph IN PRESENCE OF BUTTERFLIES

Fixed for those who refuse to go metric :sombrero:. I don't need translation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on August 09, 2016, 10:42:14 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 30, 2016, 09:27:22 PM
If you think waiting a week is bad, imagine this scenario: you're getting photos of I-90, but due to sun angle and whatnot, you didn't get a good picture of the welcome sign erected by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority.  15 months later when you finally go on that stretch of road again in the eastbound direction, and MassDOT went ahead and replaced the sign with a standard one before you could get your picture.  This sign is now gone: https://goo.gl/maps/7jkssiL4v5r

I'd almost bet that 15-month interval contained the time when the Turnpike Authority was dissolved and administration of the Turnpike turned over to MassDOT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 09, 2016, 12:51:04 PM
My first attempt to get the sign was on 4/19/15 and when I came back was 7/23/16.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on August 09, 2016, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 09, 2016, 12:51:04 PM
My first attempt to get the sign was on 4/19/15 and when I came back was 7/23/16.

Guess I'm a few years off.  The Authority disappeared in 2009.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 09, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
I wonder if they replaced it in anticipation of the coming sign replacement contracts?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 09, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
I noticed that today. I think it went up this summer. I'm pretty sure the old sign was up when I went through there in April (and possibly May).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2016, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on August 09, 2016, 04:51:25 AM
Quote from: kphoger on August 08, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I just drove by this one on Saturday.  I suspect it's not heavily enforced...  :sombrero:

Translation:  37 mph IN PRESENCE OF BUTTERFLIES

Fixed for those who refuse to go metric :sombrero:. I don't need translation.

When did you go imperial? I thought you lived in España?  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on August 10, 2016, 12:28:27 AM
This button copy sign in Idaho has an interesting shape, due in part by the omission of the horizontal line that delineates the exit tab from the main signface.
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13935096_10154488075487948_8361038650090954792_n.jpg?oh=cd11aeacff71b9e5b506cca255e4d9a2&oe=5825ACD4)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on August 10, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
^ Up until roughly the '80s, that style of centered, non-separated exit tab was standard issue in Pennsylvania.

From a PAHighways.com gallery image archived via archive.org:
(https://web.archive.org/web/20111113003350/http://www.pahighways.com/graphics/gallery/alexnitzman/I80_Exit299.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on August 11, 2016, 12:33:03 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on August 10, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
^ Up until roughly the '80s, that style of centered, non-separated exit tab was standard issue in Pennsylvania.

From a PAHighways.com gallery image archived via archive.org:
(https://web.archive.org/web/20111113003350/http://www.pahighways.com/graphics/gallery/alexnitzman/I80_Exit299.jpg)
I legitimately misread the control city on the Exit 44 sign as 'Scrotum!' :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on August 11, 2016, 01:24:31 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/4825408479_3d2b1c19c1_b.jpg)
Interesting how this particular sign spells out the word 'Seventeenth', which would usually be shortened to '17th' to save space.
This sign is on CA 55 northbound on the border between Tustin and Santa Ana.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on August 11, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 11, 2016, 01:24:31 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/4825408479_3d2b1c19c1_b.jpg)
Interesting how this particular sign spells out the word 'Seventeenth', which would usually be shortened to '17th' to save space.
This sign is on CA 55 northbound on the border between Tustin and Santa Ana.
In this case, I suspect they wanted to fill out all of that space so the sign would extend over the lanes it was indicating. The placement of "Exit Only" is confusing, though. Also, what's up with "22 Freeway"? Since CA 22 starts at 55 and the non-freeway portion is at the other end of it, what is it trying to say? I've never seen anything like that. We have the "42 Freeway" in NJ, but it's never signed like that anywhere that I know of. It's just the NJ 42 shield with a real destination.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 11, 2016, 11:55:53 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on August 10, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
^ Up until roughly the '80s, that style of centered, non-separated exit tab was standard issue in Pennsylvania.

From a PAHighways.com gallery image archived via archive.org:
(https://web.archive.org/web/20111113003350/http://www.pahighways.com/graphics/gallery/alexnitzman/I80_Exit299.jpg)


As was Colorado...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on August 11, 2016, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on August 10, 2016, 11:43:14 PM
^ Up until roughly the '80s, that style of centered, non-separated exit tab was standard issue in Pennsylvania.

From a PAHighways.com gallery image archived via archive.org:
(https://web.archive.org/web/20111113003350/http://www.pahighways.com/graphics/gallery/alexnitzman/I80_Exit299.jpg)

Yep. Those were some beautiful signs. Some lasted well into the 2000s. There was one on the north end of the free portion of I-476 SB that was a casualty of the reconstruction project a couple years ago and PA 378's freeway section in Bethlehem was nothing but those signs til they all were replaced like 5 years ago. Dunno if there are any survivors left in the Commonwealth though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on August 11, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 11, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 11, 2016, 01:24:31 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/4825408479_3d2b1c19c1_b.jpg)
Interesting how this particular sign spells out the word 'Seventeenth', which would usually be shortened to '17th' to save space.
This sign is on CA 55 northbound on the border between Tustin and Santa Ana.
In this case, I suspect they wanted to fill out all of that space so the sign would extend over the lanes it was indicating.

That was my thinking exactly although once that sign is replaced with a reflective one, I could see it being changed to "17th Street" to accommodate the exit "tab".

Quote from: bzakharin on August 11, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
The placement of "Exit Only" is confusing, though.

How so?  The far right lane is an exit-only lane so I see nothing wrong with the placement of the Exit Only plaque.

Quote from: bzakharin on August 11, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
Also, what's up with "22 Freeway"? Since CA 22 starts at 55 and the non-freeway portion is at the other end of it, what is it trying to say? I've never seen anything like that. We have the "42 Freeway" in NJ, but it's never signed like that anywhere that I know of. It's just the NJ 42 shield with a real destination.

It's pretty much an L.A. thing.  The obvious control point for westbound CA-22 is Long Beach but I don't think it fits within the existing sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 11, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
I took this photo today and posted it for the "take-it-yourself route number challenge", and I thought it was kind of funny. The welcome sign says "please drive at 50 km/h speed limit", while the speed limit sign behind says 60. The speed limit does go down to 50 not too far after, but it still looks funny :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJFkrGGh.jpg&hash=a504c270148ce40f336f083540d6ea5cb0553dbd)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2016, 01:21:03 AM
Found this rare "No Thru Traffic" sign near Gallatin, TN yesterday:
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8668/28310359943_2802a57348.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K8FZGc)No Left Turns, No Thru Traffic, Right Turn Only (https://flic.kr/p/K8FZGc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8802/28310359743_c4c031d4f5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K8FZCK)No Left Turns, No Thru Traffic (https://flic.kr/p/K8FZCK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8823/28310359223_69f2782bd1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K8FZtM)No Thru Traffic (https://flic.kr/p/K8FZtM) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

The intersection configuration looked to have been recently changed, which is probably why it was there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 12, 2016, 08:36:21 AM
This sign on is my way to work every morning. Someone spray painted graffiti on the sign that says "Second Right" :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLdnYCsa.jpg&hash=ab54657ef5ecf3c15e82c43798bf160313830db6)

The sign is located around 471 Bridgeport Rd E (see below) heading west, and I guess some people accidently make the first right onto Lang Cres instead of the second right to get onto 85 North.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD0gMdPo.png&hash=dccc5b2c66b97293095cec68953d1c10f373f9bc)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 12, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
Spotted on a bike trail running through the Microsoft campus in Redmond, WA (SR 520 and NE 40th Street):

https://twitter.com/SounderBruce/status/764221212201320448

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.645493,-122.1354801,3a,75y,355.28h,84.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOiMvdlgys6MeU2PZJY_uYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on August 14, 2016, 01:51:08 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 12, 2016, 08:10:31 PM
Spotted on a bike trail running through the Microsoft campus in Redmond, WA (SR 520 and NE 40th Street):

https://twitter.com/SounderBruce/status/764221212201320448

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.645493,-122.1354801,3a,75y,355.28h,84.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOiMvdlgys6MeU2PZJY_uYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: jay8g on April 24, 2016, 07:16:23 PM
Not only is this an unusual design, I can't tell how it's supposed to connect to the physical layout of the intersection (it's here (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6454585,-122.1352861,3a,75y,316.55h,85.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3JENkAXAzFYeQniNpZyQdw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)):

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1563/26352352910_f37293aed9_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 15, 2016, 12:19:58 PM
I found several of these signs in the small town of Heidelberg, ON. Not only is it a bike lane, but it's also a horse-and-buggy lane :)

I've been around this area many times, and it's known for it's large Mennonite population, but I don't remember seeing these signs before.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLy7kBEz.jpg&hash=a9cc0c9b62a2df98e6fb0dc7c956ab0a01f30636)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: epzik8 on August 15, 2016, 08:28:42 PM
This is nonstandard for American highway signs. Somebody else already posted a picture of this in "Redesign this!" in Road-Related Illustrations, but here's another picture of it that includes the surrounding area. This is U.S. Route 322 east coming off the Commodore Barry Bridge in Gloucester County, New Jersey, just to the south and west of Philadelphia. Out of curiosity, what country does the font remind all of you of? I mean, once again, it's not a normal font for American signs.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUyVwuth.jpg&hash=7c99bc9bdf74d052a2b6d2db6e2c1225ccd9b4b6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: epzik8 on August 15, 2016, 08:30:28 PM
I've got another one, and this one is a truly unique sign. The same stretch of U.S. 322, a few miles to the east in Swedesboro, New Jersey. I think this one is pretty amusing.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAEoqV0g.jpg&hash=700371fd82c0fab630e94a6e2759dd16ace0e85a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on August 16, 2016, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2016, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
This is one of my favorite signs and I've seen it in 2012 and 2014, but this afternoon was the first time I had a chance to get a picture. It's near the southern end of Bonaventure Boulevard in Weston, Florida, as you approach Griffin Road. I have no idea what legal authority (statute, city regulation, whatever) supports the sign, and I wonder how many people don't know what "queue" means. But I love the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FCC2BDE26-9BB0-45E9-8220-4BE090FDEC67_zpsgu7e6h1r.jpg&hash=906745d78349053e9da96be701966d6bbecaf07e)

Well, simply barging your way over into the other lane, regardless of the presence of another vehicle and expecting everyone else to adjust to your maneuver...  That would certainly constitute an illegal lane change.  That's really only an issue in stand-still traffic, though.
K-DOT is trying to implement the zipper merge for the road construction zone along US-69 in southern Overland Park coincidentally.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cappicard on August 16, 2016, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: national highway 1 on July 29, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
From the 'Exit Number Challenge' thread.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17867.msg2162445#msg2162445)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages470%2Fi-470_ks_wt_03.jpg&hash=1ffab7c0387f354ffa433bdf5682c73c0d652825)
Interesting that this sign only includes route markers, but with no control cities.
Taken westbound on I-70, west of Topeka, KS.
Not really unusual. I-470 remains almost entirely within the Topeka city limits.

Also, Wanamaker Road interchanges with both I-70 and I-470 a half mile south.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 16, 2016, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on August 15, 2016, 08:28:42 PM
This is nonstandard for American highway signs. Somebody else already posted a picture of this in "Redesign this!" in Road-Related Illustrations, but here's another picture of it that includes the surrounding area. This is U.S. Route 322 east coming off the Commodore Barry Bridge in Gloucester County, New Jersey, just to the south and west of Philadelphia.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUyVwuth.jpg&hash=7c99bc9bdf74d052a2b6d2db6e2c1225ccd9b4b6)

In terms of fonts, the only ones wrong are the control cities; that font I have guaranteed you have seen somewhere in your life today (Helvetica). The other items on that sign are the wrong size (centre sign cardinal directions) or the wrong width (shields using Highway Gothic series B instead of series D).

It's almost like they were trying to follow the old MUTCD rules for Clearview, but messed up and put in Helvetica instead.

Quote from: epzik8 on August 15, 2016, 08:28:42 PM
Out of curiosity, what country does the font remind all of you of? I mean, once again, it's not a normal font for American signs.

https://goo.gl/maps/PpWpJGz5vJB2 - Closest thing that comes to mind, but kind of a long shot

What about this? https://goo.gl/maps/K96juyENDVR2  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 16, 2016, 09:44:52 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 16, 2016, 06:46:11 PM
What about this? https://goo.gl/maps/K96juyENDVR2  :bigass:

If any one of those signs was ground mounted, they would easily pass for a bad sign made exclusively for a movie or TV show.  A video/movie production would never foot the cost for a full gantry for a few seconds of Panavision.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: national highway 1 on August 17, 2016, 03:55:37 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on August 15, 2016, 08:28:42 PM
This is nonstandard for American highway signs. Somebody else already posted a picture of this in "Redesign this!" in Road-Related Illustrations, but here's another picture of it that includes the surrounding area. This is U.S. Route 322 east coming off the Commodore Barry Bridge in Gloucester County, New Jersey, just to the south and west of Philadelphia. Out of curiosity, what country does the font remind all of you of? I mean, once again, it's not a normal font for American signs.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUyVwuth.jpg&hash=7c99bc9bdf74d052a2b6d2db6e2c1225ccd9b4b6)
Is 2000ft a commonly used distance on guide signs? 2000ft equals 0.38 mile, which in metric is roughly 610m.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 17, 2016, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 17, 2016, 03:55:37 AM
Is 2000ft a commonly used distance on guide signs? 2000ft equals 0.38 mile, which in metric is roughly 610m.

Not really, but 500-feet and 1000-feet warnings are quite common, although usually on warning signs (not as much on guide signs).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 17, 2016, 08:29:22 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 16, 2016, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on August 15, 2016, 08:28:42 PM
This is nonstandard for American highway signs. Somebody else already posted a picture of this in "Redesign this!" in Road-Related Illustrations, but here's another picture of it that includes the surrounding area. This is U.S. Route 322 east coming off the Commodore Barry Bridge in Gloucester County, New Jersey, just to the south and west of Philadelphia.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUyVwuth.jpg&hash=7c99bc9bdf74d052a2b6d2db6e2c1225ccd9b4b6)

In terms of fonts, the only ones wrong are the control cities; that font I have guaranteed you have seen somewhere in your life today (Helvetica). The other items on that sign are the wrong size (centre sign cardinal directions) or the wrong width (shields using Highway Gothic series B instead of series D).

It's almost like they were trying to follow the old MUTCD rules for Clearview, but messed up and put in Helvetica instead.


Those signs were around long before Clearview was experimented with.  The DRPA does its own thing without regard to pesky manuals of uniform traffic control guidelines.

Here's another DRPA goodie, next to some normal looking NJDOT signage. https://goo.gl/maps/NqHtJq3rqVR2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 18, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 11, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
I took this photo today and posted it for the "take-it-yourself route number challenge", and I thought it was kind of funny. The welcome sign says "please drive at 50 km/h speed limit", while the speed limit sign behind says 60. The speed limit does go down to 50 not too far after, but it still looks funny :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJFkrGGh.jpg&hash=a504c270148ce40f336f083540d6ea5cb0553dbd)

But that's why it's in quotes.  (A pet peeve of mine -- QUOTATION MARKS ARE *NOT* USED FOR EMPHASIS!!!)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 19, 2016, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 18, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 11, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
I took this photo today and posted it for the "take-it-yourself route number challenge", and I thought it was kind of funny. The welcome sign says "please drive at 50 km/h speed limit", while the speed limit sign behind says 60. The speed limit does go down to 50 not too far after, but it still looks funny :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJFkrGGh.jpg&hash=a504c270148ce40f336f083540d6ea5cb0553dbd)

But that's why it's in quotes.  (A pet peeve of mine -- QUOTATION MARKS ARE *NOT* USED FOR EMPHASIS!!!)

Maybe it's quoting something the mayor said...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 19, 2016, 06:19:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 19, 2016, 02:20:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 18, 2016, 04:58:54 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 11, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
I took this photo today and posted it for the "take-it-yourself route number challenge", and I thought it was kind of funny. The welcome sign says "please drive at 50 km/h speed limit", while the speed limit sign behind says 60. The speed limit does go down to 50 not too far after, but it still looks funny :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJFkrGGh.jpg&hash=a504c270148ce40f336f083540d6ea5cb0553dbd)

But that's why it's in quotes.  (A pet peeve of mine -- QUOTATION MARKS ARE *NOT* USED FOR EMPHASIS!!!)

Maybe it's quoting something the mayor said...

It's possible. The best I could find from Google was this quote from this article (http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5559546-40-km-h-regional-council-considers-lower-speed-limit-in-school-zones/) on potentially dropping school zone speeds from 50 km/h to 40 km/h in the Township of Wilmot (which includes Baden). The quote suggests he's in favour of lower speed limits
Quote"To say, 'Well it really doesn't make a difference, so let's not change it.'... I mean if we don't change it, it's not going to make a difference. But if we do change it, it just might make a difference," Wilmot Mayor Les Armstrongs said

I few quotes from the article I found funny:

QuoteBob Henderson, transportation engineering manager, couldn't have been clearer about staff's recommendation not to change the speed limits at a meeting Tuesday.

"Changing speed limits typically will have little to no effect on driver speeds and behaviour," he said.

Quote"Some of the studies we've seen show that the people that are dropping their children off are often the people that speed by," Redman said.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 19, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
But getting back on topic, I found this fire safety sign on Kerwood Dr at Townline Rd in Cambridge. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before (and I wonder why this particular street has the sign?). Maybe the Fire Department has had too many calls from this street :colorful:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIdYQbfH.jpg&hash=d9e5347abba2abf56879ae1414634e4b9b3ccbe9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 19, 2016, 07:57:27 PM
Quote from: cappicard on August 16, 2016, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2016, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 27, 2016, 11:42:58 PM
This is one of my favorite signs and I've seen it in 2012 and 2014, but this afternoon was the first time I had a chance to get a picture. It's near the southern end of Bonaventure Boulevard in Weston, Florida, as you approach Griffin Road. I have no idea what legal authority (statute, city regulation, whatever) supports the sign, and I wonder how many people don't know what "queue" means. But I love the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2FRoad%2520sign%2520pictures%2FCC2BDE26-9BB0-45E9-8220-4BE090FDEC67_zpsgu7e6h1r.jpg&hash=906745d78349053e9da96be701966d6bbecaf07e)

Well, simply barging your way over into the other lane, regardless of the presence of another vehicle and expecting everyone else to adjust to your maneuver...  That would certainly constitute an illegal lane change.  That's really only an issue in stand-still traffic, though.
K-DOT is trying to implement the zipper merge for the road construction zone along US-69 in southern Overland Park coincidentally.

The sign shown above isn't a zipper merge situation. There's a traffic light up ahead where Bonaventure Boulevard ends at Griffin Road. The right lane must turn right and the left lane becomes a left-only and a left-or-straight option lane. There's also a school on the right that may back up the traffic as well (I've never been down there when school is in session). The sign's illustration notwithstanding, I don't know which lane is the one that has the problem.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 20, 2016, 08:31:16 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 19, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
But getting back on topic, I found this fire safety sign on Kerwood Dr at Townline Rd in Cambridge. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it before (and I wonder why this particular street has the sign?). Maybe the Fire Department has had too many calls from this street :colorful:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIdYQbfH.jpg&hash=d9e5347abba2abf56879ae1414634e4b9b3ccbe9)

It's white, so it must be regulatory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: marleythedog on August 22, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
I went out this weekend to grab a shot of this unique TO US-35 sign in Dayton:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7482724,-84.141999,3a,37.5y,113.41h,86.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWGB8RxYRR4df-ban07OWfw!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656

It's probably the most California looking sign I've seen in Ohio, with the white-on-green US shield and use of "Frwy" (not "Fwy" like California).

Alas, I missed my chance; it's been replaced with one of the City of Dayton's funky black-on-white-on-green unisigns (like this: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7645157,-84.1789404,3a,15y,43.63h,88.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srwVdXE9xEyGUnr5LmTiW4A!2e0!5s20151001T000000!7i13312!8i6656 ) within the last few months :angry: .
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on August 23, 2016, 02:56:08 PM
I saw this on my friend's Facebook page.  Only description is "small town in Indiana".  I knew odd speed limits were common in private complexes, but haven't seen many, if any, on public streets.
Check out the lion.
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/14102954_10209526653797173_1273108237438630259_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on August 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Here's a BGS in Johnson City TN with cardinal directions on separate plaques.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F15grrc0.jpg&hash=0758fcdf5cbe9b733d129970e52bc8729b6d395c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AsphaltPlanet on August 24, 2016, 10:04:02 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asphaltplanet.ca%2FON%2Fhwy_17_images%2F17_sign_OttawaRd174_MontrealRd_aaroads.jpg&hash=f7e1f5d9846583ddb36abc9f904949c5f4e76d8d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 24, 2016, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: chays on August 23, 2016, 02:56:08 PM
I saw this on my friend's Facebook page.  Only description is "small town in Indiana".  I knew odd speed limits were common in private complexes, but haven't seen many, if any, on public streets.
Check out the lion.
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/14102954_10209526653797173_1273108237438630259_o.jpg)

Embossed? Nice. Candidate for "The Best of Road Signs" for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 25, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Here's a BGS in Johnson City TN with cardinal directions on separate plaques.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F15grrc0.jpg&hash=0758fcdf5cbe9b733d129970e52bc8729b6d395c)

That's because once upon a time, there was an I-181 marker where that I-26 marker is, and the word "NORTH" was between the I-181 and US 23 markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 28, 2016, 07:36:42 PM
A temporary sign (for the next two-three years) using what I think is Mittelschrift (except for the numerals).

https://goo.gl/maps/eyBZ9HhVuLM2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on August 31, 2016, 07:08:45 PM
Jakeroot suggested this might belong in this thread:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160831%2F033537760d1088847f5c0e3464d810c2.jpg&hash=d9effb126e2a102bdbc4f5d20a6c91088f131d6f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on September 01, 2016, 11:36:17 AM
From what I've seen, if Virginia signs a business route with rectangles, they just use the regular route number (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1049398,-77.9618014,3a,26.8y,327.5h,80.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAK3OKKkWHS8Cm8gREIhHPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). However, they've recently put up a bunch of "B360" (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6008049,-77.3761389,3a,37.5y,295.86h,79.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGBvlVBpR8KN_q0COcKIhgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) rectangles in Mechanicsville...haven't seen anything like this before (aside from frontage roads and town roads).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on September 01, 2016, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: 6a on August 31, 2016, 07:08:45 PM
Jakeroot suggested this might belong in this thread:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160831%2F033537760d1088847f5c0e3464d810c2.jpg&hash=d9effb126e2a102bdbc4f5d20a6c91088f131d6f)

Warning!  If you continue to the left, you may come to I-71.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on September 04, 2016, 08:55:12 PM
I saw this sign yesterday on the Aviation Parkway in Ottawa, ON just before the Canadian Aviation Museum. Wikipedia says it's a federally-owned road, which might explain it's non-standard design:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9beDVXC.jpg&hash=73f96dc7dc716346e548508904e65ee6a78a14da)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on September 05, 2016, 04:38:37 PM
Here's one I found today on Hwy 7 in Guelph, heading EB approaching Line 86. Instead of saying "County" at the bottom, it says "Guelph Suburban". It's also worth noting that the sign in the opposite direction says "County".

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8vzjdAz.jpg&hash=60d619cfbaa0f8e2b192413272487242dde9af5b) (http://i.imgur.com/8vzjdAz.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 06, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
Found this at my university:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1291.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb551%2Fslik_sh00ter%2FIMG_20160901_174145_zpshtonayms.jpg&hash=3f25edf4fe4e12611d4153d6123e3936a63a5825)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on September 07, 2016, 05:03:55 PM
The font on this Autoroute 5 shield in Wakefield, QC seems odd to me:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fb2iEsKn.jpg&hash=0ece7c84bd08d52b2cf0a52f4eaf456801b68931) (http://i.imgur.com/b2iEsKn.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on September 07, 2016, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on September 07, 2016, 05:03:55 PM
The font on this Autoroute 5 shield in Wakefield, QC seems odd to me:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fb2iEsKn.jpg&hash=0ece7c84bd08d52b2cf0a52f4eaf456801b68931) (http://i.imgur.com/b2iEsKn.jpg)

Arial black and a compressed 'Jct' tab. MTQ knows better than that.

Also, note the "." in "Jct." in the bottom tab.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 09, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
Pictographic law enforcement in Monticello, Florida:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8516/29205560985_27f0960936_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LuN8LV)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 09, 2016, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 09, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
Pictographic law enforcement in Monticello, Florida:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8516/29205560985_27f0960936_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LuN8LV)

At first it looked like the guy was shooting at the oncoming car, but then I noticed the car appears further away than the cop, so clearly the two images aren't related!  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 81 on September 09, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 09, 2016, 09:54:07 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 09, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
Pictographic law enforcement in Monticello, Florida:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8516/29205560985_27f0960936_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LuN8LV)

At first it looked like the guy was shooting at the oncoming car, but then I noticed the car appears further away than the cop, so clearly the two images aren't related!  :D

Or else, they have really big LEOs but only allow small cars?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on September 09, 2016, 06:59:04 PM
After some browsing inspired by the I-20 west end thread, found this symbolic falling rocks sign in New Mexico:  Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.9552711,-105.8179994,3a,75y,46.58h,88.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slYlxo5M4mXPPhRsfhuMvPg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e4?hl=en)


In Northbrook, Illinois, there is a symbolic 'combined no left turn - no straight' sign:  Streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1311681,-87.8313711,3a,52.1y,227.69h,73.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skr67yCo3h_5YYodBHZ9sZQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dkr67yCo3h_5YYodBHZ9sZQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D91.848373%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).  I'm guessing this restriction is an attempt to reduce cut through traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on September 09, 2016, 07:35:47 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on September 01, 2016, 11:36:17 AM
From what I've seen, if Virginia signs a business route with rectangles, they just use the regular route number (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1049398,-77.9618014,3a,26.8y,327.5h,80.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAK3OKKkWHS8Cm8gREIhHPw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). However, they've recently put up a bunch of "B360" (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6008049,-77.3761389,3a,37.5y,295.86h,79.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGBvlVBpR8KN_q0COcKIhgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) rectangles in Mechanicsville...haven't seen anything like this before (aside from frontage roads and town roads).

360 Business rectangles used to say "C360" - https://goo.gl/maps/NrirE9YNyw92
The 'C' may originate from this being the 3rd US 360 Business created chronologically...

I want to say there is a 208B rectangle somewhere in Spotsylvania on VA 208 Business but GMSV is too old...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on September 09, 2016, 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Here's a BGS in Johnson City TN with cardinal directions on separate plaques.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F15grrc0.jpg&hash=0758fcdf5cbe9b733d129970e52bc8729b6d395c)
South Carolina LGS have the directional tab like this at a few entrances to I-95.  Most recently seen by me at US 17 in Hardeeville
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on September 09, 2016, 10:50:07 PM
Quote from: jwolfer on September 09, 2016, 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 24, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Here's a BGS in Johnson City TN with cardinal directions on separate plaques.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F15grrc0.jpg&hash=0758fcdf5cbe9b733d129970e52bc8729b6d395c)


South Carolina LGS have the directional tab like this at a few entrances to I-95.  Most recently seen by me at US 17 in Hardeeville

This is standard practice in South Carolina back to at least the 1980s...


edited to fix quote...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on September 13, 2016, 05:35:22 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 11, 2016, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 11, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: national highway 1 on August 11, 2016, 01:24:31 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/4825408479_3d2b1c19c1_b.jpg)
Interesting how this particular sign spells out the word 'Seventeenth', which would usually be shortened to '17th' to save space.
This sign is on CA 55 northbound on the border between Tustin and Santa Ana.
In this case, I suspect they wanted to fill out all of that space so the sign would extend over the lanes it was indicating.

That was my thinking exactly although once that sign is replaced with a reflective one, I could see it being changed to "17th Street" to accommodate the exit "tab".

In fact, that is what they did on the other side, except with greenout.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWk7ruUC.jpg&hash=fb081d7749e0e5bd62a26637a5eea719e92774eb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on September 14, 2016, 05:50:02 PM
Last night, I came across a welcome sign for Henrietta, NY with what looks like WordArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0947734,-77.6117914,3a,18.1y,207.33h,90.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMGHbmNz-lmJfrbme9Aff8w!2e0).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on September 15, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
Here's a warning sign that seems to be unique, along the South Shore tracks in South Bend. The top blurred-out word is DANGER, I think: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6890311,-86.2932255,3a,75y,282.69h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp6GY1A6I1U7_5NbSbqwGOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6890311,-86.2932255,3a,75y,282.69h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp6GY1A6I1U7_5NbSbqwGOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (look to the right)

I think it also could be a candidate for poor sign placement, since the sign is right behind a stop sign. The warning is certainly merited, since the trains come along here very fast and the tracks look like an easily-ignored, underused spur.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on September 15, 2016, 03:34:36 PM
That intersection is certainly not built for high sped trains. Why not a gate at the very least?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 15, 2016, 04:56:44 PM
The plaque on this "signal ahead" sign in Tacoma, WA ... why not "SIGNAL AHEAD"? "CAUTION AHEAD" sounds like the placeholder text, where the item that's ahead replaces "CAUTION":

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2HPCKt7.png&hash=2590fad7dad68f68f5e741af2f65a22f514d9b0f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on September 15, 2016, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on September 15, 2016, 03:34:36 PM
That intersection is certainly not built for high sped trains. Why not a gate at the very least?

I wondered myself when they routed the South Shore tracks there years ago. Greene Street probably gets a fair amount of traffic for access to the credit union. There are several crossings along the South Shore tracks that would seem to warrant gates, but only Lincolnway and the northern Bendix crossing got them. The southern Bendix crossing only got flashers, though it's a rather busy street: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.685242,-86.2933404,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKcPzMH2dksokT3yOylJY4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.685242,-86.2933404,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKcPzMH2dksokT3yOylJY4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 20, 2016, 11:58:07 PM
Anyone else seen a sign like this before?
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8229/29199762753_2351c92f94.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Luhqap)Both Lanes Must Turn Right (https://flic.kr/p/Luhqap) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This is on the onramp to westbound University Drive (US 72) from Sparkman Drive in Huntsville, AL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on September 21, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
D6 paddle panel for MA 56 northbound mounted off-center with respect to its post. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3808052,-71.957062,3a,75y,348.44h,77.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sImz65aipBPEC50yZDSrqOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 22, 2016, 08:01:40 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 20, 2016, 11:58:07 PM
Anyone else seen a sign like this before?
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8229/29199762753_2351c92f94.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Luhqap)Both Lanes Must Turn Right (https://flic.kr/p/Luhqap) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This is on the onramp to westbound University Drive (US 72) from Sparkman Drive in Huntsville, AL.

I believe so, but I don't remember exactly where.  Of course "ALL LANES MUST TURN RIGHT" is more common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 22, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 21, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
D6 paddle panel for MA 56 northbound mounted off-center with respect to its post. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3808052,-71.957062,3a,75y,348.44h,77.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sImz65aipBPEC50yZDSrqOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I saw a bunch of those off-center mount LGS paddle signs back when I lived in Massachusetts.  It's more common than you think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on September 22, 2016, 04:14:04 PM
What's up with the arrow? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3418861,-82.7586111,3a,15y,87.18h,85.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEqozL2-v77NvyvnsXFZKlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 22, 2016, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 22, 2016, 04:14:04 PM
What's up with the arrow? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3418861,-82.7586111,3a,15y,87.18h,85.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEqozL2-v77NvyvnsXFZKlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

That is an Ohio Turnpike arrow that is usually associated with the Ohio Turnpike Trailblazers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on September 22, 2016, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 22, 2016, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on September 22, 2016, 04:14:04 PM
What's up with the arrow? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3418861,-82.7586111,3a,15y,87.18h,85.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEqozL2-v77NvyvnsXFZKlQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

That is an Ohio Turnpike arrow that is usually associated with the Ohio Turnpike Trailblazers.
Huh. Looks like the colors are inverted. I've only seen the white on green arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on September 23, 2016, 09:41:29 AM
Quote from: tckma on September 22, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 21, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
D6 paddle panel for MA 56 northbound mounted off-center with respect to its post. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3808052,-71.957062,3a,75y,348.44h,77.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sImz65aipBPEC50yZDSrqOQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I saw a bunch of those off-center mount LGS paddle signs back when I lived in Massachusetts.  It's more common than you think.
Whereabouts in MA?  I grew up in the North Shore & Greater Boston area and never saw such in those areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 26, 2016, 08:16:32 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/29827252501/in/dateposted-public/

This shield assembly is not only odd because it puts the higher route number first, but because here US 98 is running N-S with US 441 and yet gets signed E-W.  The reason is because FDOT District 4 believes in following the FHWA strictly with even number routes being signed as east and west.

Further north along the two route overlap  when the two federal designations enter Okeechobee County US 98 is signed like it is through most of the Florida Peninsula as N-S.  Also in Okeechobee County and part of Highlands County US 98 does run E-W and is signed N-S.  So basically you have US 98 on both sides of Okeechobee defy logic and the portion from Okeechobee to Sebring that runs east and west signed as north and south, and the sections south of Okeechobee that run north and south signed as east to west all because of district politics.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on September 26, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Homemade modification of speed limit sign in Richard, Saskatchewan (off SK 376):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@52.6957551,-107.7081561,3a,75y,139.88h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLq-m2Ii3HgHDxP8kjrHKoQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@52.6957551,-107.7081561,3a,75y,139.88h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLq-m2Ii3HgHDxP8kjrHKoQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

A few intersection in the village have homemade "T" signs, here's one example, paired with a Yield sign:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@52.6944409,-107.7057688,3a,75y,97.84h,71.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn9BHLVNqIDkhhRMOW_B6Fw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@52.6944409,-107.7057688,3a,75y,97.84h,71.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn9BHLVNqIDkhhRMOW_B6Fw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on September 26, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
How many roads tell you when a lane *begins* as well as when it ends? The Atlantic City Expressway does:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6583749,-74.8820387,3a,37.5y,113.1h,95.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIUIG0Gp-9el_JN9bSpwNQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Though "three lanes begin" is not quite right, not to mention a bit non-specific. "Left lane begins" would be a bit weird too, since there is obviously already a left lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on September 26, 2016, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on September 26, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
How many roads tell you when a lane *begins* as well as when it ends? The Atlantic City Expressway does:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6583749,-74.8820387,3a,37.5y,113.1h,95.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIUIG0Gp-9el_JN9bSpwNQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Though "three lanes begin" is not quite right, not to mention a bit non-specific. "Left lane begins" would be a bit weird too, since there is obviously already a left lane.

Something like this, maybe? It tells pretty much the whole story in one picture.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F21444gn.jpg&hash=b6f590a48704509f8021eae713901d5617d60582)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on September 27, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: theline on September 26, 2016, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on September 26, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
How many roads tell you when a lane *begins* as well as when it ends? The Atlantic City Expressway does:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6583749,-74.8820387,3a,37.5y,113.1h,95.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIUIG0Gp-9el_JN9bSpwNQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Though "three lanes begin" is not quite right, not to mention a bit non-specific. "Left lane begins" would be a bit weird too, since there is obviously already a left lane.

Something like this, maybe? It tells pretty much the whole story in one picture.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F21444gn.jpg&hash=b6f590a48704509f8021eae713901d5617d60582)

It doesn't tell how many lanes though, but I guess most drivers would assume just a single one. For an accurate representation of lanes, perhaps something like this:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftransportstyrelsen.se%2Fcontentassets%2F672238c1deb84f529e67a72c21c779ea%2Ff16-4.jpg&hash=cd30579c49b10a5ab1dab54d52c7d62bfa25272d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 27, 2016, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: riiga on September 27, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: theline on September 26, 2016, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on September 26, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
How many roads tell you when a lane *begins* as well as when it ends? The Atlantic City Expressway does:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6583749,-74.8820387,3a,37.5y,113.1h,95.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIUIG0Gp-9el_JN9bSpwNQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Though "three lanes begin" is not quite right, not to mention a bit non-specific. "Left lane begins" would be a bit weird too, since there is obviously already a left lane.

Something like this, maybe? It tells pretty much the whole story in one picture.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F21444gn.jpg&hash=b6f590a48704509f8021eae713901d5617d60582)

It doesn't tell how many lanes though, but I guess most drivers would assume just a single one. For an accurate representation of lanes, perhaps something like this:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftransportstyrelsen.se%2Fcontentassets%2F672238c1deb84f529e67a72c21c779ea%2Ff16-4.jpg&hash=cd30579c49b10a5ab1dab54d52c7d62bfa25272d)

That sign actually means, "There's an ogre in the area; grab your pitchforks and spears."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 27, 2016, 09:29:12 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7383962,-74.3686752,3a,75y,180h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfAsN4WVd0Qv8OQwCOgjvfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

JFK or Kennedy, what is the difference?  Obviously NJDOT thinks there is on NJ 124 in Summit, NJ where the old button copy lettering for the name "KENNEDY" is still obvious underneath the "JFK" overlay.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on September 28, 2016, 11:51:21 AM
Quote from: bzakharin on September 26, 2016, 04:47:34 PM
How many roads tell you when a lane *begins* as well as when it ends? The Atlantic City Expressway does:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6583749,-74.8820387,3a,37.5y,113.1h,95.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIUIG0Gp-9el_JN9bSpwNQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Though "three lanes begin" is not quite right, not to mention a bit non-specific. "Left lane begins" would be a bit weird too, since there is obviously already a left lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8986365,-83.7723527,3a,66.4y,30.52h,94.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5bcYcXdfXKF466MQY4xOvw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664

The plaque says something like "MULTI LANE ROAD AHEAD"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hubcity on September 29, 2016, 03:48:23 PM
In Philadelphia very early this morning, having entered the Schuylkill before realizing the Vine St. Expressway was closed for construction/maintenance, I decided to take US 1 up to the Turnpike...and I saw what looks like a fairly ancient clearance warning sign:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.019795,-75.1493264,3a,75y,95.64h,84.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0xo8U4uPEE2JDJFpGYMlsQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Any clues as to the font/age of the thing?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2016, 05:22:59 PM
That's a custom font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 29, 2016, 06:00:46 PM
That underpass is for the Broad Street Subway, and it appears it's a font they used within the system itself!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Windfarmer on October 01, 2016, 08:24:03 PM
Is it a parkway or is it a drive?
https://goo.gl/maps/zN7N9uVrs8M2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 3web on October 03, 2016, 09:54:46 AM
This is certainly unique to see a semi CalTrans styled sign in Nevada, https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1864534,-115.3424433,3a,29.5y,350.34h,101.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s688aPiV6jG_9DMNfOXG1sA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

There are a few more signs like this, including one on the Strip guiding you to the airport.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on October 03, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: 3web on October 03, 2016, 09:54:46 AM
This is certainly unique to see a semi CalTrans styled sign in Nevada, https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1864534,-115.3424433,3a,29.5y,350.34h,101.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s688aPiV6jG_9DMNfOXG1sA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

There are a few more signs like this, including one on the Strip guiding you to the airport.
Wow, that's a little bit mind-bending. I'd say that a tourist (even me) would be a little confused trying to decide which direction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hubcity on October 03, 2016, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 29, 2016, 06:00:46 PM
That underpass is for the Broad Street Subway, and it appears it's a font they used within the system itself!

I think that makes it an interesting sign indeed! :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 03, 2016, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 03, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: 3web on October 03, 2016, 09:54:46 AM
This is certainly unique to see a semi CalTrans styled sign in Nevada, https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1864534,-115.3424433,3a,29.5y,350.34h,101.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s688aPiV6jG_9DMNfOXG1sA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

There are a few more signs like this, including one on the Strip guiding you to the airport.
Wow, that's a little bit mind-bending. I'd say that a tourist (even me) would be a little confused trying to decide which direction.

It's a koan, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 04, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
Saw this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.842907,-75.413765,3a,75y,109.63h,90.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWAZX70hqQ0c_yYKnCj93gg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along US 322 eastbound at the unsigned Bethel Road interchange.

Such could fall under Worst Of as well as Erroneous (in terms of route shield) categories.

IMHO, Reverse direction or FOR U-TURN signage would've been more appropriate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on October 04, 2016, 02:08:41 PM
(https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14517377_10209190521232550_1436090193948340967_n.jpg?oh=3d52659c3e7c28404a3aba3bed5ac5f3&oe=58696361)

Not entirely unique, but AHTD just posted some retro 24x24 squares for US 71B at Fort Smith instead of the standard 24x30. I want looking for some 271's, but didn't find any.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeek2500 on October 04, 2016, 07:37:15 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 04, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
Saw this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.842907,-75.413765,3a,75y,109.63h,90.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWAZX70hqQ0c_yYKnCj93gg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along US 322 eastbound at the unsigned Bethel Road interchange.

Such could fall under Worst Of as well as Erroneous (in terms of route shield) categories.

IMHO, Reverse direction or FOR U-TURN signage would've been more appropriate.

That's bad, even for Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 04, 2016, 08:08:29 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on October 04, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
Saw this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.842907,-75.413765,3a,75y,109.63h,90.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWAZX70hqQ0c_yYKnCj93gg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along US 322 eastbound at the unsigned Bethel Road interchange.

Such could fall under Worst Of as well as Erroneous (in terms of route shield) categories.

IMHO, Reverse direction or FOR U-TURN signage would've been more appropriate.

Bonus: It's brand new too!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on October 09, 2016, 12:00:42 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2FIMG_2422.jpg&hash=98c31e2e2da0343d21e75721eb88838b878540f8)

Found on US 11 NB on the outskirts of Watertown, N.Y.   Route markers? Don't need them.  Cardinal directions? Don't need them. Type of route? Don't need it.  Series E(m) lettering? Don't need it.

Keep it simple, I guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 09, 2016, 12:05:07 AM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on October 09, 2016, 12:00:42 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.upstatenyroads.com%2Faaroads%2FIMG_2422.jpg&hash=98c31e2e2da0343d21e75721eb88838b878540f8)

Found on US 11 NB on the outskirts of Watertown, N.Y.   Route markers? Don't need them.  Cardinal directions? Don't need them. Type of route? Don't need it.  Series E(m) lettering? Don't need it.

Keep it simple, I guess.

Not likely most people know the difference between US, state and Interstate routes anyway. For most people it's "route #" or "highway #".

Also, look at the '6' in 12' 6". It's also a custom font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on October 09, 2016, 10:15:55 AM
Over here, there's no prefix half of the time. You refer to a highway, regardless of it's classification, as just the number.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 09, 2016, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on October 09, 2016, 10:15:55 AM
Over here, there's no prefix half of the time. You refer to a highway, regardless of it's its classification, as just the number.

Same here. Usually, single digits will be like "Route 1" or "Route 2", while higher numbers will get just the number ("62", "114"). I don't live near enough to MA 7, 10, or 12 to determine if it's single-digit or single-syllable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on October 10, 2016, 01:25:22 PM
I was out in California this past week on business.  I noticed they use "The" in place of "Route" -- "The 405," "The 5," "The 10."  It threw me off for a little.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 10, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
Quote from: tckma on October 10, 2016, 01:25:22 PM
I was out in California this past week on business.  I noticed they use "The" in place of "Route" -- "The 405," "The 5," "The 10."  It threw me off for a little.

The terminology is growing beyond just Southern California. I've started hearing "the..." here in Seattle, mainly in reference to state highways ("the 518", "the 509", "the 520", "the 522"). I do hear "the 405" fairly often as well, far more often than "the 5" or "the 90".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on October 10, 2016, 02:50:19 PM
We've discussed this more than once.  Here's one fairly recent thread:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15629 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15629)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 10, 2016, 10:33:43 PM
From the Birmingham meet this past weekend:

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8268/29619654274_d3ab270e8a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/M8otho)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 11, 2016, 06:01:13 AM
Quote from: kkt on October 03, 2016, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 03, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: 3web on October 03, 2016, 09:54:46 AM
This is certainly unique to see a semi CalTrans styled sign in Nevada, https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1864534,-115.3424433,3a,29.5y,350.34h,101.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s688aPiV6jG_9DMNfOXG1sA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

There are a few more signs like this, including one on the Strip guiding you to the airport.
Wow, that's a little bit mind-bending. I'd say that a tourist (even me) would be a little confused trying to decide which direction.

It's a koan, right?

This is not a place where tourists would frequent, so locals will have some idea. Still, it's just not good signage, and confused me the first time I went through there after that interchange was completed.

I've hated that assembly since it was installed. But there's also several other things I don't like about that interchange...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 11, 2016, 10:27:06 AM
Squished pentagons in Loving County, Texas.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5804/30223285866_e1662f33cc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/N3JeVC)

I guess money's tight when you have less than 100 citizens.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 11, 2016, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: US71 on October 04, 2016, 02:08:41 PM
(https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14517377_10209190521232550_1436090193948340967_n.jpg?oh=3d52659c3e7c28404a3aba3bed5ac5f3&oe=58696361)

Not entirely unique, but AHTD just posted some retro 24x24 squares for US 71B at Fort Smith instead of the standard 24x30. I want looking for some 271's, but didn't find any.

Especially where Arkansas is concerned, this would fit well in the Best of thread. Living in Louisiana all of my life has caused me not to like 24x30 route shields. Louisiana has always been able to fit 3 or more digits onto a 24x24 sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 13, 2016, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 11, 2016, 03:58:23 PM
Especially where Arkansas is concerned, this would fit well in the Best of thread. Living in Louisiana all of my life has caused me not to like 24x30 route shields. Louisiana has always been able to fit 3 or more digits onto a 24x24 sign.

It's not that difficult to do anyway:

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3723/12666465595_3111c65ab8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/kihWVR)

It wouldn't be as much of a problem if we were consistent in making these wide signs. Alas, we aren't:

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7415/12215876043_b032b11d74.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jBtymt)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5559/29491671374_8207628fc8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LW5wqE)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 13, 2016, 05:21:20 PM
Quote from: jbnv on October 13, 2016, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 11, 2016, 03:58:23 PM
Especially where Arkansas is concerned, this would fit well in the Best of thread. Living in Louisiana all of my life has caused me not to like 24x30 route shields. Louisiana has always been able to fit 3 or more digits onto a 24x24 sign.

It's not that difficult to do anyway:

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3723/12666465595_3111c65ab8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/kihWVR)

It wouldn't be as much of a problem if we were consistent in making these wide signs. Alas, we aren't:

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7415/12215876043_b032b11d74.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jBtymt)

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5559/29491671374_8207628fc8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LW5wqE)

I agree. A lot of those like the LA 182 style above seem to be disappearing around here. They have been replaced, so far, with regular state shields.

I guess I was referencing the US highway shields (in my head as I was typing & I failed to properly convey that message). The 24x30 US shields put up here in LA have been consistent as far as I have seen around here. I just prefer 24x24.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 13, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 13, 2016, 05:21:20 PM
I guess I was referencing the US highway shields (in my head as I was typing & I failed to properly convey that message). The 24x30 US shields put up here in LA have been consistent as far as I have seen around here. I just prefer 24x24.

Agree, the 24x30 US shields are far more consistent. Even then, a case can be made for all-24x24. I wouldn't mind seeing us do Wisconsin-style unisigns. Then it should be easy to write a computer program to generate a layout based on a small set of input parameters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 16, 2016, 10:34:15 PM
An odd use of this sign...

https://goo.gl/maps/386yWtNqdhQ2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 17, 2016, 08:16:41 AM
Rather odd BGS to the left over the yet-to-open I-75 express lanes approaching the I-595 interchange. The 700-foot distance is odd too. I saw this sign this summer but wasn't able to get a picture and then forgot about it until another thread here prompted me to remember it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.1010246,-80.3604975,3a,75y,29.53h,78.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scy9X5zIacGp89WjDQjN44g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on October 17, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
I've never seen a sign like this before!  A cane indicating the presence of handicapped people in Toledo, Ohio

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5604/30294526366_0629078fed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7)
OH-US24-BlindpplS (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 17, 2016, 12:13:56 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 17, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
I've never seen a sign like this before!  A cane indicating the presence of handicapped people in Toledo, Ohio

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5604/30294526366_0629078fed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7)
OH-US24-BlindpplS (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

Those have been around in Toledo for decades.  They had those by the University of Toledo in the early 80s. 

One problem with that sign -- they forgot to add the white tip to the cane, like the ones by the university had.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 17, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
Seriously, how big of a danger is this?  I can only assume it's for crop dusters.

85th Street, between Valley Center (KS) and I-135

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FIMG_20161003_203445_zpsiuvblip1.jpg&hash=72200de9acfa9f91d1a2e6962e5dd4efd8247526)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 17, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 17, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
Seriously, how big of a danger is this?  I can only assume it's for crop dusters.

85th Street, between Valley Center (KS) and I-135


That's actually a common sign used on roads around airports where planes take off and land very near the road.  Probably just to help stop drivers be stunned by a big plane which may appear closer to the ground than it actually is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 17, 2016, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 17, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 17, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
Seriously, how big of a danger is this?  I can only assume it's for crop dusters.

85th Street, between Valley Center (KS) and I-135


That's actually a common sign used on roads around airports where planes take off and land very near the road.  Probably just to help stop drivers be stunned by a big plane which may appear closer to the ground than it actually is.

Ah.  I'd never seen one before.

I do, however, note an absence of airports anywhere near Valley Center.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 17, 2016, 03:20:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 17, 2016, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 17, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 17, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
Seriously, how big of a danger is this?  I can only assume it's for crop dusters.

85th Street, between Valley Center (KS) and I-135


That's actually a common sign used on roads around airports where planes take off and land very near the road.  Probably just to help stop drivers be stunned by a big plane which may appear closer to the ground than it actually is.

Ah.  I'd never seen one before.

I do, however, note an absence of airports anywhere near Valley Center.

Here's one on I-90 WB (Mass Pike) near Barnes Airport in Westfield, MA. (https://goo.gl/maps/6XVvuX6VkD62)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 17, 2016, 06:42:47 PM
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5737/30097548170_5c6fc8548f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MRBNuj)20161017_131547 (https://flic.kr/p/MRBNuj) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Definitely an add-on by the Claiborne Parish highway dept.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on October 17, 2016, 08:32:49 PM
"House Crossing"

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn5.brusimm.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F03%2FHouse-MD.jpg%3F56e547&hash=690c146378ae1bb414a004840ef26e25b9b1dc7a)

Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 17, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
I've never seen a sign like this before!  A cane indicating the presence of handicapped people in Toledo, Ohio

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5604/30294526366_0629078fed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7)
OH-US24-BlindpplS (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on October 19, 2016, 12:26:30 PM


Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 17, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
I've never seen a sign like this before!  A cane indicating the presence of handicapped people in Toledo, Ohio

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5604/30294526366_0629078fed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7)
OH-US24-BlindpplS (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

I understand the push for internationalization of signs, but some concepts can be quite  insulting in picture format.

Blind typically have a different cane, so I would never guess that this sign referred to the blind.  But what would an alternative be, a man with red X's over the eyes?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on October 19, 2016, 12:54:38 PM
There doesn't need to be a unique sign. You're supposed to yield to pedestrians no matter their sightedness.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 19, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: spooky on October 19, 2016, 12:54:38 PM
There doesn't need to be a unique sign. You're supposed to yield to pedestrians no matter their sightedness.

Exactly.
OTOH, it's a warning plaque, not regulatory.  Not sure if I should obey it or not.



Quote from: mrsman on October 19, 2016, 12:26:30 PM
But what would an alternative be, a man with red X's over the eyes?

A standard pedestrian, with a cane added.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 19, 2016, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 19, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: spooky on October 19, 2016, 12:54:38 PM
There doesn't need to be a unique sign. You're supposed to yield to pedestrians no matter their sightedness.

Exactly.
OTOH, it's a warning plaque, not regulatory.  Not sure if I should obey it or not.

If a similar warning sign showed a curve ahead, would you obey it or ignore it and continue straight?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 19, 2016, 01:33:03 PM
I would be warned of the proximity of a curve.  That's what warning signs do.  Absent the sign, nothing changes as to what I'm expected to do as a driver.  Without a warning sign, I'm expected to not go straight where the road curves; in the presence of a warning sign, that still applies but not because there's a sign.

The plaque below it that might say '45 MPH' would be advisory in nature.  I would take that into consideration when choosing what speed to decelerate to, but such speed would not constitute a new speed limit because it's not regulatory in nature.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on October 19, 2016, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 17, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
I've never seen a sign like this before!  A cane indicating the presence of handicapped people in Toledo, Ohio

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5604/30294526366_0629078fed_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7)
OH-US24-BlindpplS (https://flic.kr/p/Na2nf7) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Maybe the sign should say "YIELD TO VAUDEVILLE ACTS".  :D

Besides, blind people do not use that kind of cane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TR69 on October 19, 2016, 08:48:31 PM
At first it looks like this street sign might be honoring Eli Whitney's invention (especially when zipping by at 55 mph). But, not quite. (It's a local family name. This road leads to their farm.)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/13639_19_10_16_6_52_06.jpeg)

Shelbyville, Kentucky.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TR69 on October 19, 2016, 09:41:05 PM
It could very well be that I lead too sheltered of a life, but I don't think I've ever before seen "Highway" abbreviated like this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/13639_19_10_16_7_00_17.jpeg)

Shelbyville, Kentucky
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on October 20, 2016, 01:19:46 AM
Quote from: spooky on October 19, 2016, 12:54:38 PM
There doesn't need to be a unique sign. You're supposed to yield to pedestrians no matter their sightedness.

Of course. But warning drivers that you are passing a location that is more likely to have disabled people is helpful, which is why the warnings exist.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/article/13043607/whats-the-deal-with-deaf-child-signs-how-do-parents

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
I was poking around GSV and found this interesting street blade thing (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Reagan,+TN+38368/@35.5218256,-88.3427763,3a,35.9y,292.24h,73.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.492947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x887c42c2b30df461:0x569263b0f6e0ec80!8m2!3d35.52174!4d-88.3425424) in Reagan, TN. Seem to be a bunch of them around Reagan. Any idea why places would use these difficult-to-read signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 24, 2016, 10:44:40 PM
Glen Ellyn, IL has those, except they're stone posts painted white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 25, 2016, 02:31:23 AM
Quote from: kphoger on October 24, 2016, 10:44:40 PM
Glen Ellyn, IL has those, except they're stone posts painted white.
Chattahoochee, FL still uses those, IIRC. Huntsville, AL and Fort Payne, AL also used to use them, but they no longer do, though several still remain in both cities.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on October 27, 2016, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: kphoger on October 19, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 19, 2016, 12:26:30 PM
But what would an alternative be, a man with red X's over the eyes?

A standard pedestrian, with a cane added.

Akron, Ohio got it right...
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0816563,-81.5081164,3a,48.1y,184.51h,88.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slqpuqbpVRdvRSnmMwtM0QQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 03, 2016, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
I was poking around GSV and found this interesting street blade thing (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Reagan,+TN+38368/@35.5218256,-88.3427763,3a,35.9y,292.24h,73.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.492947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x887c42c2b30df461:0x569263b0f6e0ec80!8m2!3d35.52174!4d-88.3425424) in Reagan, TN. Seem to be a bunch of them around Reagan. Any idea why places would use these difficult-to-read signs?
I've seen similar signs in NJ. Most are very old and black on white, but here is a newer looking blue one at Main Street and Woodbridge Avenue in Metuchen:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5400609,-74.3604708,3a,37.5y,153h,82.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6YyH5o71kkJGpOf61AFYKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

Edit: it seems they are all over that part of Metuchen. Here's another one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5424045,-74.3523315,3a,37.5y,213.8h,73.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slIHXTyk-g12kuwfDSYe2Sw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 04, 2016, 10:01:53 PM
New Britain, CT used to have tall white wooden street sign posts with black lettering. Somehow, one is still standing a few blocks from here...sort of!

https://goo.gl/maps/LZGKXz5rvDL2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 07, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on November 04, 2016, 10:01:53 PM
New Britain, CT used to have tall white wooden street sign posts with black lettering. Somehow, one is still standing a few blocks from here...sort of!

https://goo.gl/maps/LZGKXz5rvDL2
That's exactly what the old NJ ones look like. I just can't find one at the moment
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Magical Trevor on November 07, 2016, 06:11:23 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 07, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on November 04, 2016, 10:01:53 PM
New Britain, CT used to have tall white wooden street sign posts with black lettering. Somehow, one is still standing a few blocks from here...sort of!

https://goo.gl/maps/LZGKXz5rvDL2
That's exactly what the old NJ ones look like. I just can't find one at the moment
Until around 2008 there had been one of these at the corner of White Hollow Road and Route 112 (Lime Rock Road), in front of the entrance sign for Lime Rock Park.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BamaZeus on November 08, 2016, 10:41:46 AM
I want to say that some survived in the Stamford/Darien area when I was growing up, but don't hold me to that.  They do look familiar to me, like I had see one or two on Hoyt St going between New Canaan and Stamford.  I'm not sure why that exact street popped into my head, but it did.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on November 08, 2016, 09:39:48 PM
On topic for today...
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5605/30235367923_d6a8e0cfd1_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on November 09, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
Odd wording and layout on a pentagon:

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5801/30851812226_17e236698a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P1gAV1)
Odd St. Mary Parish Sign (https://flic.kr/p/P1gAV1) by Jay Bienvenu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bienvenunet/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 09, 2016, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: jbnv on November 09, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
Odd wording and layout on a pentagon:

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5801/30851812226_17e236698a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P1gAV1)
Odd St. Mary Parish Sign (https://flic.kr/p/P1gAV1) by Jay Bienvenu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bienvenunet/), on Flickr

I read that too fast and saw: "Smarty Pants Route".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on November 11, 2016, 01:21:54 AM
The city of Seattle has these general speed limit signs posted at the city limits over SR 522 and SR 99. Recently got changed with the lowered speed limits (some here may not appreciate it, but I do  :-D ).

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5832/30553628420_6f53f589e3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NxVkfU)
New speed limit sign in Seattle (https://flic.kr/p/NxVkfU) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 14, 2016, 03:00:06 AM
Any idea how common these signs are ("One vehicle in median at a time")? Washington uses them sparingly on divided highways:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6IcRAfZ.png&hash=a4bb31f9ad3656c7cf02abc2784688b986efadfb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 14, 2016, 03:03:17 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 11, 2016, 01:21:54 AM
(some here may not appreciate it, but I do).

Those who don't drive, generally don't appreciate cars. ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 3web on November 14, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1151214,-115.2993552,3a,15y,309.1h,88.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCy9ovNEa2Npx4_lQvbpCKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1152312,-115.3009578,3a,43.4y,315.53h,88.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sT_MBjUCdXDw5xHbXsTzoZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

These signs are interesting, and odd! Interesting since these are older CR-215 shields that aren't used anymore, odd, because even though they still take the shape of a county route shield, the edges are more sharper, and instead of using the standard county shield layout, it's just the county's logo (http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/parks/PublishingImages/shooting-park/special-events/Clark-County-Nevada-Logo.png) on it with 215 replacing the picture.
(here are the newer CR-215 shields for reference: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Clark_County_Route_215_NV.svg/450px-Clark_County_Route_215_NV.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on November 14, 2016, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 14, 2016, 03:00:06 AM
Any idea how common these signs are ("One vehicle in median at a time")? Washington uses them sparingly on divided highways:

I've seen similar signs worded differently in various parts of Delaware that say "single vehicle x-over." Here's one on DE 1 south of Frederica. (https://goo.gl/maps/jHjjcaRZ6vx)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 18, 2016, 11:42:59 PM
Probably been posted somewhere on the forum before, but here's a strange PA 611 shield in Philadelphia, I believe on Vine.

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5649/30735408500_d4b1985b6d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NPZ19d)Bad PA 611 Shield in Philly (https://flic.kr/p/NPZ19d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 19, 2016, 04:20:34 AM
^ That sign is set in an early draft of Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on November 19, 2016, 05:19:37 PM
unfortunately, they're new and they're hideous. there's quite a few on 15th St, as that's what the PA 611/Broad St exit on I-676 EB dumps you onto.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TR69 on November 21, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
Seems small shields, perhaps on a larger sign, would have worked fine here, rather than spelling everything out.

Also, the sign doesn't tell motorists which way to go on I-469 (north/south) or on I-69 (north).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/13639_21_11_16_10_18_00.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on November 24, 2016, 01:00:10 AM
Quote from: TR69 on November 21, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
Seems small shields, perhaps on a larger sign, would have worked fine here, rather than spelling everything out.

Also, the sign doesn't tell motorists which way to go on I-469 (north/south) or on I-69 (north).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/13639_21_11_16_10_18_00.png)

Also, the sign probably needs to be amended to say Exit 316
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on November 24, 2016, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: vtk on November 24, 2016, 01:00:10 AM
Quote from: TR69 on November 21, 2016, 10:59:38 AM
Seems small shields, perhaps on a larger sign, would have worked fine here, rather than spelling everything out.

Also, the sign doesn't tell motorists which way to go on I-469 (north/south) or on I-69 (north).

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/13639_21_11_16_10_18_00.png)

Also, the sign probably needs to be amended to say Exit 316

That's Bluffton Road on the southern segment of IN-1 coming out of Fort Wayne.  They have since replaced the sign with one that has compass directions for I-469 and I-69 to reach the continuation of IN-1.  However, the new sign still has the wrong exit number.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 26, 2016, 12:21:18 AM
From Spokane, Washington. More unusual part is the crossing of the shafts (:eyebrow:):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fwfbqvcq.png&hash=13ccdfd37a9773f477e19dc3a93c0cc2e741aaf5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 28, 2016, 05:09:27 PM
While most of us know about the ALL WAY plaque (MUTCD R1-3P) that goes with STOP signs (at all-way stop intersections); well, in Marblehead, MA; they (the town) reverse-color ALL WAYS plaques (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4916952,-70.884281,3a,75y,349.75h,78.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxNOLzoK13X-rTj9DfGvDMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

Looks like the TOW AWAY ZONE plaques (MUTCD R7-201aP) were used but with different lettering.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 28, 2016, 05:46:51 PM
This could cover the whole gamut of the thread...

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15272038_10209982382569562_7594651970133191802_o.jpg)

These are posted in the middle of a designated RV parking area near Downtown Grand Junction, CO.   Each direction of BL-70 is on a separate one-way street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 28, 2016, 05:55:32 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 28, 2016, 05:09:27 PM
While most of us know about the ALL WAY plaque (MUTCD R1-3P) that goes with STOP signs (at all-way stop intersections); well, in Marblehead, MA; they (the town) reverse-color ALL WAYS plaques (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4916952,-70.884281,3a,75y,349.75h,78.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxNOLzoK13X-rTj9DfGvDMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

Very reminiscent of the Canadian supplementary plaques:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeoxR5W2.png&hash=e83c36af25953271ef7538aaec213d3b4ed92add)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 29, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
Level of interest may vary:

Found this in Dothan, AL along a rail line:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5650/30502142793_dae8cde72a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NtnsnF)

Before the end of I-85 in Montgomery, AL:

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5455/30941619850_6e099e94c6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P9cTAj)

End of I-85 in Montgomery, AL:

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5483/31165728012_45e099136f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pu1v99)

Split of GA 136 and GA 136 Connector:

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5705/30941620950_e899afe212_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P9cTVh)

END! GA 136 Connector:

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5483/30941620450_b858b71369_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P9cTLE)

Blue GA 515 shield example (Appalachian Corridor):

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5752/31309863945_0761a50576_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGKeJr)

END! GA 60 Spur at GA 60.  I drove the Dragon (US 129) and came out of it eventually down NC 60 / GA 60 Spur / GA 60, etc.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5605/31309865105_fdbef48d3f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGKf5r)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 29, 2016, 04:26:51 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 29, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
Level of interest may vary:

Found this in Dothan, AL along a rail line:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5650/30502142793_dae8cde72a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NtnsnF)
There's one of those in Decatur, AL (close clearance) on a CSX Spur track with another one that has the "Stop Dismount" sign mounted above it further down the track. They can't be seen on street view, as it appears they may be newer installs (despite said track not having seen a train in years from what I can tell), but they can be seen here:
http://www.rxrsignals.com/Alabama/Decatur/2/
The stand-alone Close Clearance sign can be seen facing away from the camera on the right in Picture 23, and the set-up with both signs can be seen in Picture 24 on the left.
I can get some better pictures if you want me too though.

I know I've seen them in other places as well (mostly on Google Maps). Here's one that used to be on a CSX spur/branch (not sure what it was, but it appears to have been the later) in Nashville, TN that has since been removed:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1577999,-86.7865717,3a,15y,358.77h,84.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIn-Sxskr38XP5kLxxO4iQg!2e0!5s20140401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 29, 2016, 04:41:00 PM
A weird mileage fraction in Pensacola, FL

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5499/30712728572_e4d8f4894d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NMYLbY)
IMG_7114 (https://flic.kr/p/NMYLbY) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 29, 2016, 06:54:54 PM
I was told these Sibley County creations probably fit here.

(https://i.imgur.com/qLEsmjn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/qLEsmjn.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on November 29, 2016, 07:22:54 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 29, 2016, 06:54:54 PM
I was told these Sibley County creations probably fit here.

(https://i.imgur.com/qLEsmjn.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/qLEsmjn.jpg)
Put hyphens between them, remove the Minnesota shield, and then this photo belongs on the Eastern Seaboard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CrystalWalrein on December 19, 2016, 06:54:48 PM
CR 670 'starts', rather than 'begins'. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0344647,-74.6297467,3a,15y,290.94h,86.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWNaLihnTXh3Wyk6ivEi22Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) Wrightstown, NJ.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 22, 2016, 02:04:03 AM
This CR 420 shield in Lauderdale County, AL seems to have been rather sloppily made:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/345/31425810810_a07a30c98f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuGj)CR 420 (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuGj) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/706/31425810700_223f890de8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuEq)CR 420 (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuEq) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Also, I saw three other posts where CR 420 shields had been in the area, but were all gone. This was the only one left. The others must've been stolen.

(NB4 weed jokes.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 24, 2016, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 29, 2016, 04:41:00 PM
A weird mileage fraction in Pensacola, FL

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5499/30712728572_e4d8f4894d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NMYLbY)
IMG_7114 (https://flic.kr/p/NMYLbY) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

Here's one in Virginia. This actually replaced a BGS that was mounted on the overpass and basically said the same thing as the current side mounted one, mileage fraction and all
https://goo.gl/maps/Y9JJk3EdLBR2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 3web on December 25, 2016, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 22, 2016, 02:04:03 AM
This CR 420 shield in Lauderdale County, AL seems to have been rather sloppily made:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/345/31425810810_a07a30c98f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuGj)CR 420 (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuGj) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/706/31425810700_223f890de8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuEq)CR 420 (https://flic.kr/p/PSZuEq) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Also, I saw three other posts where CR 420 shields had been in the area, but were all gone. This was the only one left. The others must've been stolen.

(NB4 weed jokes.)

Heh, they must have been on weed making that sign!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Truvelo on December 26, 2016, 02:27:04 PM
How about this sad looking 2

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fbent2.jpg&hash=f9457bd51aa536bf4e9a4736db4f99868d45de24)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 28, 2016, 12:08:35 PM
A better job done here than some transportation departments... http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20161228_Your_guide_to_the_Mummers.html

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 28, 2016, 12:22:04 PM
I just realized we've reached 100 pages of weird and unusual road signs. Wow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on December 28, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
Reverse-color chevron signs? (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.4111348,-122.334264,3a,15.2y,309.9h,85.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0wdgBm3AnFjtXBu0ylkDug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on December 28, 2016, 08:19:55 PM
Quote from: jay8g on December 28, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
Reverse-color chevron signs? (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.4111348,-122.334264,3a,15.2y,309.9h,85.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0wdgBm3AnFjtXBu0ylkDug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

New York did that quite a bit earlier. Scroll down to the bottom (http://alpsroads.net/roads/ny/i-90/). Those were taken out about 5 years ago with a bridge replacement project.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 28, 2016, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 14, 2016, 03:00:06 AM
Any idea how common these signs are ("One vehicle in median at a time")? Washington uses them sparingly on divided highways:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6IcRAfZ.png&hash=a4bb31f9ad3656c7cf02abc2784688b986efadfb)

Somewhat late reply, but I've seen something similar in concept on US-50 in Virginia in the vicinity of the South Riding development. The signs there say "NO DOUBLE STACKING IN CROSSOVER." I presume it means that if one car is pulled out waiting to turn, another car isn't supposed to pull out next to that person, but to me it sounds more like they're telling you not to eat Five Guys burgers there.

Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9249364,-77.5075039,3a,75y,267.66h,94.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seG9WQ9Ll3PLSxncAWZ0J9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on January 03, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
"Acceleration Lane" Sign:
https://goo.gl/maps/2SqHJTS6WeT2

This intersection is being replaced with a DDI by the end of 2018 so this sign will no longer be here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 03, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
Posting just to make the font purists' heads explode.  :-D

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/407/31934884962_355d55259a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QDYCGS)2016 East End Bridge Trip Day 1 - 110 (https://flic.kr/p/QDYCGS) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: epzik8 on January 05, 2017, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 28, 2016, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 14, 2016, 03:00:06 AM
Any idea how common these signs are ("One vehicle in median at a time")? Washington uses them sparingly on divided highways:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6IcRAfZ.png&hash=a4bb31f9ad3656c7cf02abc2784688b986efadfb)

Somewhat late reply, but I've seen something similar in concept on US-50 in Virginia in the vicinity of the South Riding development. The signs there say "NO DOUBLE STACKING IN CROSSOVER." I presume it means that if one car is pulled out waiting to turn, another car isn't supposed to pull out next to that person, but to me it sounds more like they're telling you not to eat Five Guys burgers there.

Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9249364,-77.5075039,3a,75y,267.66h,94.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seG9WQ9Ll3PLSxncAWZ0J9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
DUUUUDDDEEEEE I love Five Guys!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on January 06, 2017, 02:30:13 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on January 05, 2017, 11:11:09 PM
DUUUUDDDEEEEE I love Five Guys!!!

Five Guys is a great burger and fries, but you pay for that quality.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Truvelo on January 06, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
I couldn't resist taking a photo of this awful US 66 shield I saw the other night.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus66ride.jpg&hash=af62e0d3d5e5fcd256f8ec82a3232fcfd9d3c66a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2017, 07:24:50 PM
Saw this street blade in Bellevue, WA today. Not a unique sign, obviously. But the font is sure strange. I took my own photo, but this Street View capture is closer and easier to assess.

Any idea what font this is? Reminds me a bit of Myriad Pro. Of the four "108th Ave NE" street blades along this stretch, two use this typeface. This (https://goo.gl/FlIXx1) is the other.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKClD1oH.png&hash=e529d68c98492faa4d298c45856fee83dea93d46)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 06, 2017, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2017, 07:24:50 PM
Saw this street blade in Bellevue, WA today. Not a unique sign, obviously. But the font is sure strange. I took my own photo, but this Street View capture is closer and easier to assess.

Any idea what font this is? Reminds me a bit of Myriad Pro. Of the four "108th Ave NE" street blades along this stretch, two use this typeface. This (https://goo.gl/FlIXx1) is the other.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKClD1oH.png&hash=e529d68c98492faa4d298c45856fee83dea93d46)

Tis the evil Clearview!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 06, 2017, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 06, 2017, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2017, 07:24:50 PM
Saw this street blade in Bellevue, WA today. Not a unique sign, obviously. But the font is sure strange. I took my own photo, but this Street View capture is closer and easier to assess.

Any idea what font this is? Reminds me a bit of Myriad Pro. Of the four "108th Ave NE" street blades along this stretch, two use this typeface. This (https://goo.gl/FlIXx1) is the other.

http://i.imgur.com/KClD1oH.png

Tis the evil Clearview!

I don't think it's Clearview. Besides the fact that it just doesn't scream Clearview to me (I'm usually pretty good at spotting it), the city of Bellevue does not use Clearview. Neither does WSDOT (who owns the overpass in the photo, but does not maintain the freeway interchange where this street blade is situated (primary giveaways of this are the crosswalk style (transverse markings, used by only a few cities in Washington) and the lack of retroreflective borders around the signals (Bellevue does not use these borders))).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on January 10, 2017, 11:51:04 PM
I was just looking around Street View, and I stumbled on this ugly TO banner above a classic NY 97 shield with the letters NY on top (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6091565,-75.0613027,3a,25.2y,181.83h,91.79t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swg-3eC1Tehoe3QBjMAkDwA!2e0).  The 97 looks like it might be in the LeHay font, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 11, 2017, 04:47:58 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2017, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 06, 2017, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2017, 07:24:50 PM
Saw this street blade in Bellevue, WA today. Not a unique sign, obviously. But the font is sure strange. I took my own photo, but this Street View capture is closer and easier to assess.

Any idea what font this is? Reminds me a bit of Myriad Pro. Of the four "108th Ave NE" street blades along this stretch, two use this typeface. This (https://goo.gl/FlIXx1) is the other.

http://i.imgur.com/KClD1oH.png

Tis the evil Clearview!

I don't think it's Clearview. Besides the fact that it just doesn't scream Clearview to me (I'm usually pretty good at spotting it), the city of Bellevue does not use Clearview. Neither does WSDOT (who owns the overpass in the photo, but does not maintain the freeway interchange where this street blade is situated (primary giveaways of this are the crosswalk style (transverse markings, used by only a few cities in Washington) and the lack of retroreflective borders around the signals (Bellevue does not use these borders))).

It's not Clearview. It's Frutiger.

Not every sans-serif font that isn't FHWA Series is Clearview, guys.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 11, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 11, 2017, 04:47:58 AM
It's not Clearview. It's Frutiger.

Thanks. I haven't seen Frutiger on a road sign before.

Quote from: Scott5114 on January 11, 2017, 04:47:58 AM
Not every sans-serif font that isn't FHWA Series is Clearview, guys.

Hey, that weren't me. I knew the moment I saw it that it wasn't Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on January 15, 2017, 11:40:09 AM
A couple of these popped up recently in downtown New Britain, CT:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqUyMYNP.jpg&hash=846d184b5c18076563878865b1dc0d6fade06b4d)

The symbol on the left is a beehive, which is a big part of our city's seal:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuIKYrKi.jpg&hash=c36148729bcd23e4431233fcaeca1e0fc21114a3)

I can't figure out what font that is on those blades, however.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 15, 2017, 12:18:35 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fg%2FIbgAAOSwZQRYeUYG%2Fs-l1600.jpg&hash=fff42a04b798004718e1fbfb7a38bab54c03b564)

I've never seen one with an arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 15, 2017, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 15, 2017, 12:18:35 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fg%2FIbgAAOSwZQRYeUYG%2Fs-l1600.jpg&hash=fff42a04b798004718e1fbfb7a38bab54c03b564)

I've never seen one with an arrow.

that symbol under "traffic" looks like a Pennsylvania state route shield
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 15, 2017, 05:39:15 PM
Not just a school, a slow school. (On one of the US 45 branches in west Tennessee...)

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/14753265_10154506304071469_8293317133378707944_o.jpg?oh=24db3e3bb2f5f14cb94d5af2a4370d16&oe=5912827B)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on January 15, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
Candidate for "Department of Redundancy Department"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on January 15, 2017, 08:11:37 PM
I saw a few goodies in and near North Adams, MA today.

OLD town line sign and speed limit sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7049129,-73.176053,3a,18.2y,140.53h,86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szGS4lV2NFLB5HaQGsx52ig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Another identical speed limit sign down the road (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7045176,-73.16908,3a,34.6y,130.07h,84.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scXtYbxAhXrE--Zu8GL8vLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Unfortunately, I don't have pictures and GSV is nonexistent, but there are a bunch of interesting signs along the Deerfield River east of the Hoosac Tunnel. A yellow weight restriction sign with a "Boston and Maine Railroad" signature and several old black-on-white distance signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on January 20, 2017, 02:06:27 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 15, 2017, 08:11:37 PM
I saw a few goodies in and near North Adams, MA today.

Massachusetts is a good place for sign spotting because there are no counties, and almost everything that's normally done by a county is done by the town or city.  This leads to 351 potential jurisdictional differences in signage within the state.  Old signs tend to stick around a lot longer too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 24, 2017, 02:38:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 11, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
Hey, that weren't me. I knew the moment I saw it that it wasn't Clearview.

I know, but there's a tendency from a sizeable number of people on here to declare anything not Series EM as Clearview. I've even seen Georgia's mixed-case Series D declared to be "Clearview".

Quote from: hbelkins on January 15, 2017, 05:39:15 PM
Not just a school, a slow school. (On one of the US 45 branches in west Tennessee...)

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/14753265_10154506304071469_8293317133378707944_o.jpg?oh=24db3e3bb2f5f14cb94d5af2a4370d16&oe=5912827B)

School, slow school. Alma mater of Bond, James Bond.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CrystalWalrein on January 24, 2017, 02:44:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 11, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 11, 2017, 04:47:58 AM
It's not Clearview. It's Frutiger.

Thanks. I haven't seen Frutiger on a road sign before.

Quote from: Scott5114 on January 11, 2017, 04:47:58 AM
Not every sans-serif font that isn't FHWA Series is Clearview, guys.

Hey, that weren't me. I knew the moment I saw it that it wasn't Clearview.

Switzerland uses Frutiger (or a very close analogue) on its road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on January 24, 2017, 11:55:38 PM
I caught a glimpse of this Thruway sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0797731,-75.3916777,3a,15y,324.21h,94.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9GUzBoPSSeX3HH4uZMdkqg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) with just a white NY state outline on Saturday night.  I had to double-check in Street View to make sure I saw what I thought I did.  I don't think I've ever seen a Thruway sign with just a white outline instead of having the NY state outline filled in with white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on January 25, 2017, 02:42:05 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 24, 2017, 11:55:38 PM
I caught a glimpse of this Thruway sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0797731,-75.3916777,3a,15y,324.21h,94.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9GUzBoPSSeX3HH4uZMdkqg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) with just a white NY state outline on Saturday night.  I had to double-check in Street View to make sure I saw what I thought I did.  I don't think I've ever seen a Thruway sign with just a white outline instead of having the NY state outline filled in with white.
Also at the northbound approach (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.079356,-75.391642,3a,19.8y,11.39h,92.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6IrCrA98XZ3AvPoKctnXGA!2e0) of the intersection, and on reassurance assemblies along NY 233.

That state outline looks like someone tore it out by hand. :no:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Right on Red on January 25, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
Found in Toronto (via Reddit):

(https://i.redd.it/1hvxzoxlfo4x.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex on January 26, 2017, 11:58:09 AM
Quote from: Right on Red on January 25, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
Found in Toronto (via Reddit):

(https://i.redd.it/1hvxzoxlfo4x.jpg)

Graphics from the original Final Fantasy  :-D I got a copy of that for the NES in 1990 and played the heck out of it that summer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 26, 2017, 01:20:07 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 05, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: sammi on December 04, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
Quote from: mass_citizen on December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/9RqdD

The arrow on this just looks way too long to me. Its almost as if they were trying to justify it with the legend. Thank god they didn't use the full spelling of Marlborough

Marlboro. ugh. :spin:

Isn't the arrow on that sign supposed to be the one pointing to the upper-right? Like the ones on overhead exit signs?

One of the peculiarities of MassDPW/MassHighway guide sign standards.  As the sign in question is inside the gore of an entrance ramp to a freeway, it's treated like an oversized "paddle" sign - hence the horizontal arrow as opposed to a slanted one.
Such has been standard practice in the Bay State for decades.

1972-vintage example (everything but the MA 49 shield is original) (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1282773,-72.0487225,3a,75y,259.49h,84.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6EnBFynLEhLFNLjqvKRM2w!2e0!5s20151101T000000!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 29, 2017, 01:11:57 PM
US 81 near Kremlin, Oklahoma:  "Historic Missouri Compromise Line - 1820 - 36° 30' N Latitude (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4999262,-97.8726751,3a,15.3y,42.77h,82.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-yWzMprWs4QUZh5ZAP4CVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I think this sign was installed ten years ago as part of the redevelopment of US 81 in Oklahoma into a Centennial Corridor dedicated to the Chisholm Trail.  The centennial in question was that of Oklahoma statehood (1907), not the trail itself, whose sesquicentennial is being observed this year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 30, 2017, 07:00:46 AM
I found a couple of these blue "Truck Route" signs in Port Arthur, Texas:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.staticflickr.com%2F1%2F289%2F32566646056_a9223eda16_b.jpg&hash=b1d31152b9253c98dd0f6cdc2d68318af7f8de1a) (http://flic.kr/p/RBNzgw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 03, 2017, 02:34:35 AM
Unique pair of "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" signs in New Westminster, BC (https://goo.gl/lALJPW). These types of signs are ubiquitous in Washington and California (amongst other states), but they're unheard of in BC (if not, the rest of Canada). AFAIK, these are the only freeway entrance signs anywhere in BC (they're not even utilised on the other entrance ramps for this same junction); even though they're in the BC traffic signs manual, I've never seen them placed before (and I can't tell if these signs are new or not -- the typeface says old, but the signs are in excellent shape). The black-on-white coloring is called for in the manual (https://goo.gl/QLHVtj) (PDF page 40), which differs from the white-on-green coloring in the US.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEyc73ss.png&hash=bebf7732592483a20a542a518286bdc8631d9e85)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSUJv5iu.png&hash=1352212da2fe08eb16781a891076da33f6e18f99)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 03, 2017, 05:07:32 AM
I wouldn't say the typeface particularly says old. It's a heavy, possibly condensed version of Futura. Not a font that shows up on signs a lot, but unless BC used to use a lot of Futura, it could easily be someone in the present day using the wrong typeface.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on February 03, 2017, 09:44:54 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2017, 07:00:46 AM
I found a couple of these blue "Truck Route" signs in Port Arthur, Texas:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.staticflickr.com%2F1%2F289%2F32566646056_a9223eda16_b.jpg&hash=b1d31152b9253c98dd0f6cdc2d68318af7f8de1a) (http://flic.kr/p/RBNzgw)

Now that's just awesome.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 03, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 03, 2017, 05:07:32 AM
I wouldn't say the typeface particularly says old. It's a heavy, possibly condensed version of Futura. Not a font that shows up on signs a lot, but unless BC used to use a lot of Futura, it could easily be someone in the present day using the wrong typeface.

They've used a couple of different fonts in the past. It reminds me a lot of one particular font that was utilised heavily for several decades, but has mostly gone by the wayside (photo below).

But, it's definitely not the same font. Just similar. Perhaps you may be onto something with someone having used the wrong typeface. Which isn't crazy, because I've seen many different fonts on road signs in BC (Clearview, Highway Gothic, Helvetica, whatever the font is below, whatever the font is on this sign (http://i.imgur.com/w6RfXct.jpg), etc). But never one that wasn't also seen somewhere else.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY72wRoV.png&hash=da93a801b08cdd36de72347dc7079a616aa6ff17)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 03, 2017, 08:49:13 PM
The font in the Abbotsford/Bellingham sign is a custom font most likely developed by BC themselves. In the US, several states developed custom typefaces in the period from about 1948 to 1970 and used those instead of the federal official fonts. This is because there were no computers at the time, so there was no way to easily distribute fonts in a way that was foolproof to replicate. Instead, the fonts were distributed as more or less a series of geometry problems which, when calculated, would result in the correct character. If you've ever looked at the SHS and seen how the standard icons are dimensioned out: same idea.

When computers and plotters started being used to create signs it became easier to simply load up a software file (like a TTF) and bang out the text with that. So the custom fonts fell by the wayside fairly quickly, although Michigan was still using theirs until very recently.

You don't see custom fonts on large freeway signs because button copy was purchased en masse from third-party vendors which supplied more or less standardized fonts. Nevertheless, there are differences; the Stimsonite '5' was shaped slightly different than the standard 5 we know and love, and whichever vendor Oklahoma used had slightly longer descenders on their lower-case 'y' and 'g'.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on February 03, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 03, 2017, 02:34:35 AM
Unique pair of "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" signs in New Westminster, BC (https://goo.gl/lALJPW). These types of signs are ubiquitous in Washington and California (amongst other states), but they're unheard of in BC (if not, the rest of Canada). AFAIK, these are the only freeway entrance signs anywhere in BC (they're not even utilised on the other entrance ramps for this same junction); even though they're in the BC traffic signs manual, I've never seen them placed before (and I can't tell if these signs are new or not -- the typeface says old, but the signs are in excellent shape). The black-on-white coloring is called for in the manual (https://goo.gl/QLHVtj) (PDF page 40), which differs from the white-on-green coloring in the US.

The signs aren't new. I would say it's just an error of some type (that or it somehow it wasn't a provincial install).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 05, 2017, 12:26:14 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Nashville%2FImages%2F391.jpg&hash=a5294a85e2d0d5589abc311a6390bd4f715f0140)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on February 05, 2017, 12:37:48 AM
From the NYSDOT Region 9 files, I present this mixed-case gore sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1640284,-75.8706836,3a,15.1y,323.82h,91.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3PR1P61udb2jlhGXc4uGtw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Been up for years. I-88 has a ton of mixed-case signs that should be all-caps, but this is the only gore sign I know of. Exit 13 in Oneonta (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4438779,-75.0974416,3a,75y,313.87h,77.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ss6uozZaayMRic4J_V4S9kQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is an example of bad mixed-case for direction banners. I actually think R9's stretch of I-88 has more mixed-case direction banners on BGSes than the proper all-caps variety.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 05, 2017, 03:58:53 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 05, 2017, 12:26:14 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Nashville%2FImages%2F391.jpg&hash=a5294a85e2d0d5589abc311a6390bd4f715f0140)

Sure, capital Ps and upside-down, lowercase Ds are the same thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 06, 2017, 11:25:47 AM
Quote from: cl94 on February 05, 2017, 12:37:48 AMFrom the NYSDOT Region 9 files, I present this mixed-case gore sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1640284,-75.8706836,3a,15.1y,323.82h,91.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3PR1P61udb2jlhGXc4uGtw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Been up for years. I-88 has a ton of mixed-case signs that should be all-caps, but this is the only gore sign I know of. Exit 13 in Oneonta (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4438779,-75.0974416,3a,75y,313.87h,77.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ss6uozZaayMRic4J_V4S9kQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is an example of bad mixed-case for direction banners. I actually think R9's stretch of I-88 has more mixed-case direction banners on BGSes than the proper all-caps variety.

We used to have an example at the I-235/K-96 split (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Wichita,+KS/@37.7573866,-97.3601733,3a,75y,266.49h,89.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suCSogw2lof6CI9LMUK6yyA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DuCSogw2lof6CI9LMUK6yyA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D25.177216%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x87badb6ad27f182d:0x9396d5bf74d33d3e!8m2!3d37.6871761!4d-97.330053!6m1!1e1) for about 20 years, but I think that has now been replaced--KDOT let a major contract to replace guide signs on all Wichita-area freeways (except US 54) about two years ago, and a majority of the new signs have finally been installed.

FHWA actually sponsored a study in 1981 to determine whether it would be better to have cardinal direction words in mixed-case.  It showed that mixed-case cardinals could be read from 10% further away, but stopped short of recommending change to guide signing standards because the experimenters felt motorists' reported difficulties with cardinal directions (e.g., not being able to tell one block of all-uppercase letters from another) had more to do with uncertainty about the desired direction and less with visual acuity.  I suspect the raised initial letter (small caps treatment) was the eventual result, after a few more iterations of research.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ekt8750 on February 07, 2017, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 03, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
Posting just to make the font purists' heads explode.  :-D

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/407/31934884962_355d55259a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QDYCGS)2016 East End Bridge Trip Day 1 - 110 (https://flic.kr/p/QDYCGS) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

GAH!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on February 07, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
A sign on the HOV-only ramps at Lynnwood Transit Center near Seattle:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/276/32619635042_dd3e6a6528_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RGua3J)
Lynnwood TC ramp sign (https://flic.kr/p/RGua3J) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr

Buses are allowed to use the ramp to bypass traffic in the HOV lane, while all other HOV traffic has to turn into the transit center's parking lot.

This photo was taken from the upper level of a double-decker bus during yesterday's snowy conditions. Commuting was a breeze.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Sam on February 08, 2017, 06:16:32 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 25, 2017, 02:42:05 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 24, 2017, 11:55:38 PM
I caught a glimpse of this Thruway sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0797731,-75.3916777,3a,15y,324.21h,94.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9GUzBoPSSeX3HH4uZMdkqg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) with just a white NY state outline on Saturday night.  I had to double-check in Street View to make sure I saw what I thought I did.  I don't think I've ever seen a Thruway sign with just a white outline instead of having the NY state outline filled in with white.
Also at the northbound approach (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.079356,-75.391642,3a,19.8y,11.39h,92.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6IrCrA98XZ3AvPoKctnXGA!2e0) of the intersection, and on reassurance assemblies along NY 233.

That state outline looks like someone tore it out by hand. :no:

That's the logo of the New York State Thruway Authority. I've seen a few of those signs where they used the wrong logo and lettering style. There's even this masterpiece (https://www.google.com/maps/place/1-3+Forge+Ave,+Geneva,+NY+14456/@42.886468,-76.9778165,3a,16.3y,311.54h,88.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMTqSLqMhpLppOBWd7fFXwg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x89d0c564ed099a5b:0x4053a10ecb927ce0) in Geneva. The "Thruway Trailblazer" should have the solid white state and the words "New York Thruway" in the blocky letters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 08, 2017, 07:51:32 AM
Quote from: Sam on February 08, 2017, 06:16:32 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 25, 2017, 02:42:05 AM
Quote from: Michael on January 24, 2017, 11:55:38 PM
I caught a glimpse of this Thruway sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0797731,-75.3916777,3a,15y,324.21h,94.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9GUzBoPSSeX3HH4uZMdkqg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) with just a white NY state outline on Saturday night.  I had to double-check in Street View to make sure I saw what I thought I did.  I don't think I've ever seen a Thruway sign with just a white outline instead of having the NY state outline filled in with white.
Also at the northbound approach (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.079356,-75.391642,3a,19.8y,11.39h,92.54t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6IrCrA98XZ3AvPoKctnXGA!2e0) of the intersection, and on reassurance assemblies along NY 233.

That state outline looks like someone tore it out by hand. :no:

That's the logo of the New York State Thruway Authority. I've seen a few of those signs where they used the wrong logo and lettering style. There's even this masterpiece (https://www.google.com/maps/place/1-3+Forge+Ave,+Geneva,+NY+14456/@42.886468,-76.9778165,3a,16.3y,311.54h,88.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sMTqSLqMhpLppOBWd7fFXwg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x89d0c564ed099a5b:0x4053a10ecb927ce0) in Geneva. The "Thruway Trailblazer" should have the solid white state and the words "New York Thruway" in the blocky letters.
My favorite thing about the Thruway logo is that they had to add and remove I-84 from the "map" on it due to the accounting shenanigans that moved the maintenance back and forth between NYSDOT and the Thruway.  Both variations are very common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 08, 2017, 08:06:37 PM
Unique "arrow per lane" sign along Seaway Blvd in Everett, WA. This sign has been installed for at least ten years.

The sign's pretty cool, but I wish they'd put a separator line between "Visitors" and "Employees".

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8V1lHZU.png&hash=58199833b67d2b09fbdda6f22c7f5882f9ea775a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 08, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/276/32619635042_dd3e6a6528_b.jpg

Buses are allowed to use the ramp to bypass traffic in the HOV lane, while all other HOV traffic has to turn into the transit center's parking lot.

Hmm. Doesn't exiting and re-entering a freeway create unnecessary merge congestion, (in this case) causing the HOV lane to slow down?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on February 10, 2017, 06:25:03 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2584/32012220323_3b895971c4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QLNZPa)20170210_155845 (https://flic.kr/p/QLNZPa) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

This was put up yesterday just down the road from my house (I live on the top of the hill in the background). I first saw this sign in Tallulah about 2 years ago. IMO, a '48 spec US highway shield being where the black "route 80" shield is would have made this sign pop.

This site lists all of Louisiana's byways:  http://www.louisianabyways.com
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on February 14, 2017, 10:47:01 PM
Yet another GeoGuessr find: this (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.674234,-100.0659318,3a,18.1y,307.63h,87.4t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sx5egwTE6SburvHs0sNkbeg!2e0) multi-state detour sign.  The font used on the numbers looks like the Supreme clothing font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 14, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
I scanned a copy of the image, but back around 2013, there was an unusual sign on NY 9A near Cortlandt Metro-North station. It looks like it was swiped and used on somebody's property, and has a white field with a black circle and a white triangle pointing up. On top of that sign is a banner reading "Outback."

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2402212,-73.9231641,3a,30y,72.07h,83.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOU_2r-tiIu0vScaMwpPGng!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Anyone know what that sign is all about?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 15, 2017, 12:57:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
A sign on the HOV-only ramps at Lynnwood Transit Center near Seattle:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/276/32619635042_dd3e6a6528_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RGua3J)
Lynnwood TC ramp sign (https://flic.kr/p/RGua3J) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sounderbruce/), on Flickr

Buses are allowed to use the ramp to bypass traffic in the HOV lane, while all other HOV traffic has to turn into the transit center's parking lot.

This photo was taken from the upper level of a double-decker bus during yesterday's snowy conditions. Commuting was a breeze.

I don't think "MAY  NOT" should be acceptable verbiage on a road sign.  It could either imply "shall never" or "might or might not."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 15, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 14, 2017, 10:47:01 PM
Yet another GeoGuessr find: this (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.674234,-100.0659318,3a,18.1y,307.63h,87.4t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sx5egwTE6SburvHs0sNkbeg!2e0) multi-state detour sign.  The font used on the numbers looks like the Supreme clothing font.

It's possibly Futura, but italic.

OBEY
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ColossalBlocks on February 15, 2017, 07:52:32 PM
Oh man, Missouri has everything!

http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/us61bgs170a.jpg (http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/us61bgs170a.jpg)

http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/mo40mis0909.jpg (http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/mo40mis0909.jpg)

http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/mo40mis0909a.jpg (http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/mo40mis0909a.jpg)

http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/mosec40mis0909.jpg (http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/mosec40mis0909.jpg)

http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/w64400911.jpg (http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/missouri/images/w64400911.jpg)

Source: http://roads.billburmaster.com/ (http://roads.billburmaster.com/)

Then again, i wonder what a SR Route 40 would be like...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on February 17, 2017, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 15, 2017, 12:57:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
A sign on the HOV-only ramps at Lynnwood Transit Center near Seattle:



Buses are allowed to use the ramp to bypass traffic in the HOV lane, while all other HOV traffic has to turn into the transit center's parking lot.

This photo was taken from the upper level of a double-decker bus during yesterday's snowy conditions. Commuting was a breeze.

I don't think "MAY  NOT" should be acceptable verbiage on a road sign.  It could either imply "shall never" or "might or might not."

I agree. It should have read "Buses from Left May Continue Right" or something similar.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 17, 2017, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 17, 2017, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 15, 2017, 12:57:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce on February 07, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
A sign on the HOV-only ramps at Lynnwood Transit Center near Seattle:



Buses are allowed to use the ramp to bypass traffic in the HOV lane, while all other HOV traffic has to turn into the transit center's parking lot.

This photo was taken from the upper level of a double-decker bus during yesterday's snowy conditions. Commuting was a breeze.

I don't think "MAY  NOT" should be acceptable verbiage on a road sign.  It could either imply "shall never" or "might or might not."

I agree. It should have read "Buses from Left May Continue Right" or something similar.

I'm not so hot on "may". Perhaps "Watch for buses from left"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 19, 2017, 12:31:13 AM
Took this thing on a local street in Lake Panasoffkee, FL last weekend:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parent_Drop-Off_and_Pick-Up_turn_sign;_Lake_Panasoffkee.jpg

I'd kind of like to see if it's MUTCD compliant or not.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 19, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 19, 2017, 12:31:13 AM
Took this thing on a local street in Lake Panasoffkee, FL last weekend:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parent_Drop-Off_and_Pick-Up_turn_sign;_Lake_Panasoffkee.jpg

I'd kind of like to see if it's MUTCD compliant or not.

You could look through the MUTCD then... But I'll save you the trouble and confirm it's a custom sign that wouldn't have anything similarly specified in the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 20, 2017, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: roadfro on February 19, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
You could look through the MUTCD then... But I'll save you the trouble and confirm it's a custom sign that wouldn't have anything similarly specified in the MUTCD.
Yeah, but I was thinking there might've been some update that I missed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on February 26, 2017, 03:01:55 AM
Is this assembly MUTCD compliant?

(https://i.imgur.com/SNdHGcA.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/SNdHGcA.jpg)

Saw this yesterday on Anoka CR-17/Lexington Ave in the Circle Pines, MN area. Never seen anything like it before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 26, 2017, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: roadfro on February 19, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 19, 2017, 12:31:13 AMTook this thing on a local street in Lake Panasoffkee, FL last weekend:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parent_Drop-Off_and_Pick-Up_turn_sign;_Lake_Panasoffkee.jpg

I'd kind of like to see if it's MUTCD compliant or not.

You could look through the MUTCD then... But I'll save you the trouble and confirm it's a custom sign that wouldn't have anything similarly specified in the MUTCD.

I don't think it complies with the MUTCD, but only because the message is informatory or regulatory in nature, instead of cautionary.  It would probably fall under the text-message exemption if the signs had white background.

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 26, 2017, 03:01:55 AMIs this assembly MUTCD compliant?

(https://i.imgur.com/SNdHGcA.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/SNdHGcA.jpg)

Saw this yesterday on Anoka CR-17/Lexington Ave in the Circle Pines, MN area. Never seen anything like it before.

This definitely falls under the text-message exemption.  It might fall foul of the clause that prohibits the use of a custom sign when there is a sign already in the MUTCD.  The vanilla MUTCD approach to signing this situation is simply to give the new speed limit, not to add another sign to "cancel" the old limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 26, 2017, 11:09:56 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 20, 2017, 10:27:11 AM
Quote from: roadfro on February 19, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
You could look through the MUTCD then... But I'll save you the trouble and confirm it's a custom sign that wouldn't have anything similarly specified in the MUTCD.
Yeah, but I was thinking there might've been some update that I missed.

Not every sign will be in the MUTCD. There's a 6 legged intersection near me, with a few signs denoting what movements are permitted from the 2 approach lanes. That sign isn't in the MUCTD either because the MUTCD can't provide for every unique situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on February 26, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 26, 2017, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 26, 2017, 03:01:55 AMIs this assembly MUTCD compliant?
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This definitely falls under the text-message exemption.  It might fall foul of the clause that prohibits the use of a custom sign when there is a sign already in the MUTCD.  The vanilla MUTCD approach to signing this situation is simply to give the new speed limit, not to add another sign to "cancel" the old limit.

Hmm, alright. To me it seems like it is excessively "wordy"/too much information at once. Seems like it's more likely to be confused than just having the new speed limit posted.

Edit to add: Here are two other interesting signs I found earlier today, on MN-95 along the St. Croix River, a short distance north of Stillwater:

(https://i.imgur.com/5Hj7uMW.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/5Hj7uMW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QxE9Wv3.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/QxE9Wv3.jpg)

There HAS to be a reason they're doubled... but why? They're posted like this in both directions, too, so it's clearly intentional. I did notice that it looks like the signs are made of two different kinds of sheeting, but again: why?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 27, 2017, 09:54:08 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 26, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
There HAS to be a reason they're doubled... but why? They're posted like this in both directions, too, so it's clearly intentional. I did notice that it looks like the signs are made of two different kinds of sheeting, but again: why?

Possibly a field test for the sheeting?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 05, 2017, 10:19:09 AM
Yesterday, I found this in Deep River, IA.

(https://i.imgur.com/74UnsT8.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/74UnsT8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 05, 2017, 11:19:12 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 27, 2017, 09:54:08 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 26, 2017, 09:59:13 PMThere HAS to be a reason they're doubled... but why? They're posted like this in both directions, too, so it's clearly intentional. I did notice that it looks like the signs are made of two different kinds of sheeting, but again: why?

Possibly a field test for the sheeting?

I cannot think of a more plausible theory.  In the case of the curve warning signs, it looks like they are comparing regular yellow with fluorescent yellow.  (Colorado DOT already specifies fluorescent yellow for warning signs on two-lane state highways and for bottom "Exit Only" panels on freeway guide signs, but I know of few, if any, states that have followed its example.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 05, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 05, 2017, 10:19:09 AM
Yesterday, I found this in Deep River, IA.

(https://i.imgur.com/74UnsT8.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/74UnsT8.jpg)

Nice!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 05, 2017, 01:31:20 PM
I'm going to be posting this in the city photo game soon, so here's a sneak peek at what it is...

(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images062/ca-062_eb_earp_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on March 06, 2017, 06:27:09 PM
Nice Series D Modified
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 06, 2017, 07:16:53 PM
I thought this was awesome of Lowe's & the Wounded Warrior Project. And...thank you to all of our veterans here on the forum.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3870/33138911902_28c035ee03_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SunzY3)20170306_161135 (https://flic.kr/p/SunzY3) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on March 14, 2017, 06:48:29 PM
All roads lead to Spokane (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7297059,-117.1819578,3a,43.6y,288.04h,102.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVR1TKZenMeJgrH7fDW-jCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), I guess...

There's lots of weird signage in this area, actually.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 14, 2017, 08:13:10 PM
Quote from: vtk on March 06, 2017, 06:27:09 PM
Nice Series D Modified

Which sign are you referring to?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 15, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: jay8g on March 14, 2017, 06:48:29 PM
All roads lead to Spokane (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.7297059,-117.1819578,3a,43.6y,288.04h,102.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVR1TKZenMeJgrH7fDW-jCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), I guess...

There's lots of weird signage in this area, actually.

On all alternate routes, no less...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on March 19, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
I found this cool sign on North Hill Place in Kitchener, ON along a bike trail.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjklWQBm.jpg&hash=27c6263399b8cdf14c6c84eb54c1f21ca77ce812)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 19, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on March 19, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
I found this cool sign on North Hill Place in Kitchener, ON along a bike trail.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjklWQBm.jpg&hash=27c6263399b8cdf14c6c84eb54c1f21ca77ce812)

Red (Stop & Dismount) or Yellow (Use Caution) would have been the logical colors to use here, but they went with green (Screw It...No cars, just keep moving).   <shrug>
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on March 19, 2017, 10:29:28 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 19, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on March 19, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
I found this cool sign on North Hill Place in Kitchener, ON along a bike trail.

Image snip

Red (Stop & Dismount) or Yellow (Use Caution) would have been the logical colors to use here, but they went with green (Screw It...No cars, just keep moving).   <shrug>

The fact that the sign asks cyclists to dismount here is kind of funny. It's a dead end residential street with only a couple houses on it. There's also nothing obstructing your view of the road. I like the combination of green and the octagon shape (who thought that would make sense?) :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on March 20, 2017, 07:48:32 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 19, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on March 19, 2017, 04:24:52 PM
I found this cool sign on North Hill Place in Kitchener, ON along a bike trail.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjklWQBm.jpg&hash=27c6263399b8cdf14c6c84eb54c1f21ca77ce812)

Red (Stop & Dismount) or Yellow (Use Caution) would have been the logical colors to use here, but they went with green (Screw It...No cars, just keep moving).   <shrug>
They wanted to portray to the street traffic that the bikes will stop so they don't need to worry and can recognize the shape from the back. I imagine they also wanted to teach those who won't follow the directions on the sign a lesson for failing to comply.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on March 21, 2017, 02:43:46 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 20, 2017, 07:48:32 AM
They wanted to portray to the street traffic that the bikes will stop so they don't need to worry and can recognize the shape from the back. I imagine they also wanted to teach those who won't follow the directions on the sign a lesson for failing to comply.

More likely, they had a faded old STOP sign on the scrap pile when the phone rang: "Hey, we need a custom sign..."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: briantroutman on March 22, 2017, 10:46:22 PM
Poor quality image, unfortunately, but I noticed this TEMP I-70 shield in a Utah DOT video (https://archive.org/details/gov.dot.fhwa.ttp.vh-98x) I assume to be from the mid '80s. "Barrett's Food Town"  apparently still exists, and it helped me to quickly pinpoint the location here in Salina, Utah: https://goo.gl/maps/vi4icSfgsxN2

My guess is that I-70 was incomplete west of Exit 56 and motorists were either being directed west on US 50 to what's now UT 24, re-entering I-70 at Exit 48–or they were being sent west on US 50 all the way to I-15.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2822/33598185215_89309b0e13_o.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 23, 2017, 01:04:46 AM
Quote from: briantroutman on March 22, 2017, 10:46:22 PM
"Barrett's Food Town"  apparently still exists, and it helped me to quickly pinpoint the location here in Salina, Utah: https://goo.gl/maps/vi4icSfgsxN2

I thought it said "Earrett's Doc Loan".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 27, 2017, 07:15:26 PM
I just thought of something; If you people like old and odd signs, I recommend the Fieldston section of the Bronx, especially along Fieldston Road itself. The pre-1971 Keep Right signs are nothing compared to the pre-1961 No U Turn sign at the break in the median near the Riverdale Country School.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8994395,-73.9011703,3a,75y,125.78h,80.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2F8FPc4AIpv5Za81dlIjtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Spuyten Dutyvil is even more interesting, because on Netherland Avenue, you have traffic signals with two red lights at the ends of intersections.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8811644,-73.9128253,3a,75y,126.54h,95.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb9RFwkrizjP5IbjT41asHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 27, 2017, 09:29:20 PM
Just saw this on the web today:
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/183492-white-stop-sign-with-red-lettering



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 04, 2017, 10:14:59 PM
I am cross-posting the following ODD sign from another thread:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7103599,-104.997491,3a,75y,133.99h,83.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxvusxtRGFku5s4B3o9ZoBQ!2e0!5s20141001T000000!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

was still standing as of this past weekend, since SB Santa Fe Drive has been relocated where the concrete sewer pipes are in the above photo.

What makes it so odd is that the relocated SB Santa Fe Avenue has been around since April of 2015 (per GSV): 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7111121,-104.9984633,3a,75y,161.08h,89.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPvFcqLPceV-odeBot0nddg!2e0!5s20150401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

and the old gantry now spans a dead end "frontage road" stub to access Denny's and Diamond Shamrock as seen in this last photo.

How can someone forget to remove a large signed gantry that now sits on a dead-end strip of pavement???  :pan: :banghead: :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 05, 2017, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 04, 2017, 10:14:59 PMWhat makes it so odd is that the relocated SB Santa Fe Avenue has been around since April of 2015 (per GSV): 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7111121,-104.9984633,3a,75y,161.08h,89.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPvFcqLPceV-odeBot0nddg!2e0!5s20150401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

and the old gantry now spans a dead end "frontage road" stub to access Denny's and Diamond Shamrock as seen in this last photo.

How can someone forget to remove a large signed gantry that now sits on a dead-end strip of pavement???  :pan: :banghead: :pan:
Even more weird or odd is that when one clicks in past GSVs; there's an empty gantry (no signs), but the most recent GSV shows the signs back on again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on April 05, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 05, 2017, 10:19:09 AM
Yesterday, I found this in Deep River, IA.

(https://i.imgur.com/74UnsT8.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/74UnsT8.jpg)

Typical Iowa
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 05, 2017, 07:57:18 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on April 05, 2017, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 04, 2017, 10:14:59 PMWhat makes it so odd is that the relocated SB Santa Fe Avenue has been around since April of 2015 (per GSV): 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7111121,-104.9984633,3a,75y,161.08h,89.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPvFcqLPceV-odeBot0nddg!2e0!5s20150401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

and the old gantry now spans a dead end "frontage road" stub to access Denny's and Diamond Shamrock as seen in this last photo.

How can someone forget to remove a large signed gantry that now sits on a dead-end strip of pavement???  :pan: :banghead: :pan:
Even more weird or odd is that when one clicks in past GSVs; there's an empty gantry (no signs), but the most recent GSV shows the signs back on again.

I think when the gantry was empty was the first phase of the I-25/Us-85 rebuild, when they eliminated the on-ramp to I-25 North from SB Klamath (where the gantry is).  The signs that are currently up on the abandoned gantry aren't more than 5 years old, and they're fast approaching the time where they have been displayed over a dead-end roadway longer than an active one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 08, 2017, 06:39:16 PM
You know, I thought I'd show the beginning of this video, due to the variants of the "One Way" signs with their own messages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhPdaq4Ommg

Still wish I could get those ones I saw in Riverhead and Calverton, NY all those years ago.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PColumbus73 on April 09, 2017, 05:20:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0438934,-94.4786387,3a,32.9y,345.6h,90.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9C-sZQe8D0-3TMRtmz8AMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

How about a diamond with clipped sides?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on April 09, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
I don't know if this one goes here or in the "redundant" thread. TURN HERE on a BGS: https://goo.gl/maps/bDdMQGAo4Wm

Turning here seems to be implied by the arrow. The words are unnecessary.

Here's the corresponding sign for NB traffic on SR 331: https://goo.gl/maps/yLT7XThjuN22

Replacing TURN HERE with TOLL ROAD makes a lot of sense. The NB sign was erected many years after the first sign. This road for many years was just a stub, ending at the toll road ramp. It was extended to the south in stages in the Capital Avenue project, eventually reaching the US 20 bypass (St. Joseph Valley Parkway) as SR 331.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 10, 2017, 12:01:28 AM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on April 09, 2017, 05:20:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0438934,-94.4786387,3a,32.9y,345.6h,90.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9C-sZQe8D0-3TMRtmz8AMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

How about a diamond with clipped sides?

I've seen something like that before (here (https://goo.gl/wpduTZ) specifically). Obviously done to avoid sitting over the lane, but definitely unique. I see them very, very rarely.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 10, 2017, 12:37:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 10, 2017, 12:01:28 AM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on April 09, 2017, 05:20:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0438934,-94.4786387,3a,32.9y,345.6h,90.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9C-sZQe8D0-3TMRtmz8AMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

How about a diamond with clipped sides?

I've seen something like that before (here (https://goo.gl/wpduTZ) specifically). Obviously done to avoid sitting over the lane, but definitely unique. I see them very, very rarely.

I've seen them commonly for construction signs:

https://goo.gl/maps/8avSbZyw4Uw
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on April 10, 2017, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 27, 2017, 07:15:26 PM
on Netherland Avenue, you have traffic signals with two red lights at the ends of intersections.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8811644,-73.9128253,3a,75y,126.54h,95.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb9RFwkrizjP5IbjT41asHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en



A very common "dead-end street" indicator throughout New York City.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on April 10, 2017, 12:39:31 PM
Quote from: theline on April 09, 2017, 05:58:47 PM
I don't know if this one goes here or in the "redundant" thread. TURN HERE on a BGS: https://goo.gl/maps/bDdMQGAo4Wm

Turning here seems to be implied by the arrow. The words are unnecessary.

Here's the corresponding sign for NB traffic on SR 331: https://goo.gl/maps/yLT7XThjuN22

Replacing TURN HERE with TOLL ROAD makes a lot of sense. The NB sign was erected many years after the first sign. This road for many years was just a stub, ending at the toll road ramp. It was extended to the south in stages in the Capital Avenue project, eventually reaching the US 20 bypass (St. Joseph Valley Parkway) as SR 331.
There's another one in Rome, NY: https://goo.gl/maps/9kCiiWVsNWk
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on April 10, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on April 09, 2017, 05:20:41 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0438934,-94.4786387,3a,32.9y,345.6h,90.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9C-sZQe8D0-3TMRtmz8AMg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

How about a diamond with clipped sides?

Usually, I only see that on orange construction signs.  My guess is perhaps the clearance between the travel lane and the median is inadequate enough that they think the corners would be clipped off by passing trucks.  BUT on a permanent sign, one would think that kind of issue with the right-of-way and shoulder would have been resolved by the time those get mounted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vtk on April 10, 2017, 11:22:02 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 05, 2017, 01:31:20 PM
I'm going to be posting this in the city photo game soon, so here's a sneak peek at what it is...

(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images062/ca-062_eb_earp_02.jpg)

This sign has the D Modified legend I was referring to. Top line of legend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jet380 on April 11, 2017, 07:04:49 AM
Rather than a clipped diamond, here they have used a square sign to fit between the road and the rail line.

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.9708344,115.8475034,3a,15y,196.78h,87.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKkhjO8jlDkxxliudnzpb2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-31.9708344,115.8475034,3a,15y,196.78h,87.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKkhjO8jlDkxxliudnzpb2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 12, 2017, 12:37:48 AM
Partially clipped sign. Hwy 101/Youngs Bay Bridge (https://goo.gl/7sdHsd) near Astoria, OR:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8INpNTo.png&hash=55f3cb7c8479df6269fd5ba7e984f1da6585efde)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on April 12, 2017, 11:21:57 PM
How often is the name of a street mentioned in a "Cross traffic does not stop" sign? The "New" sign below is a standard and thus not unique.

https://goo.gl/maps/nkgHYgQ5tz32

At the intersection itself:

https://goo.gl/maps/hFSR3xWRvGM2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 13, 2017, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 12, 2017, 11:21:57 PM
How often is the name of a street mentioned in a "Cross traffic does not stop" sign?

About 50/50 in my experience, though I usually see it on the sign in your second photo itself. Don't think I've seen it posted this way before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 14, 2017, 02:10:51 AM
I'm used to seeing a variety of different typefaces in BC, but this stop sign outside of the PoCo Walmart Supercentre (east of Vancouver) is not one I've seen before. It reminds me of Futura but the "S" isn't right.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FR3PXop7.jpg&hash=249a27ab6dc20264e4976912cb9685642151512e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 14, 2017, 05:00:14 AM
That would be Avant Garde.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft4NeOLs.png&hash=b1d32de342238d611248a6e95a9988483a75b5ab)

Quite familiar with both since they're both used in my business's logo. They're both geometric sans serifs, but Futura has a much lower x-height and thus appears considerably more condensed. STOP is a difficult set of characters to compare off of, but note the terminals on the S (slanted on Futura, horizontal on Avant Garde).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 15, 2017, 03:50:32 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2017, 05:00:14 AM
That would be Avant Garde.

Good info. Thanks!



Odd sign approaching the Old Yale Road roundabout (https://goo.gl/z4PZn3) in Langley, BC. It's a rather old diagrammatic sign (approaching ten years old AFAIK). I assume the local council decided that tilting the words didn't make the sign easier to read:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkjLqebl.png&hash=5f27372e3c6b00d4dbf1fefeb9f07e9717d766cb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on April 17, 2017, 06:30:36 PM
I found two of these "single-piece" signs for Oxford CR 59 today, which I was surprised about since I haven't seen many of these in my travels in Ontario. Even though I can see the benefits of putting the two shields and directional tabs on a single sign, it just doesn't look good to me.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FV8nP9k1.jpg&hash=b0b45b6131ba2a4107f86bd952f592bee66c640d)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fjo87g2a.jpg&hash=b219d1eb234075c8a6a9e9466575d2aa22dce2ba)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 22, 2017, 09:51:47 AM
I found an interesting sign arrangement while doing some research on Missouri Route 87.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3994033,-92.5634225,3a,75y,345.35h,80.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWUmfITeIPLpZzj5dKcIE6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Why am I doing research on MO 87, you ask? Because part of it is overlapped by the Interstate 70 Business Loop in Boonville, Missouri.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 22, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 22, 2017, 09:51:47 AM
I found an interesting sign arrangement while doing some research on Missouri Route 87.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3994033,-92.5634225,3a,75y,345.35h,80.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWUmfITeIPLpZzj5dKcIE6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Why am I doing research on MO 87, you ask? Because part of it is overlapped by the Interstate 70 Business Loop in Boonville, Missouri.

Did they really need that much caution yellow on a 45 mph curve? The speed limit on that 2-lane road can't be no more than 55
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 22, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
Speaking of Missouri...

(https://i.imgur.com/RwboG9e.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/RwboG9e.jpg)

What's the deal with this enormous thing? I found this yesterday at the junction of US-63/136 and MO-202. Is it some sort of MO thing I don't know about, or...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on April 23, 2017, 02:08:15 AM
Green no parking signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1950668,-120.94002,3a,15y,171.21h,88.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3X-I_2ioCfSuM5ma3kyhAg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on April 23, 2017, 09:31:14 AM
Quote from: vtk on April 10, 2017, 11:22:02 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 05, 2017, 01:31:20 PM
I'm going to be posting this in the city photo game soon, so here's a sneak peek at what it is...

(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images062/ca-062_eb_earp_02.jpg)

This sign has the D Modified legend I was referring to. Top line of legend.

Hmmm. I didn't think there was modified Series D button copy back in the day so I played around with it a little bit using today's Series D modified and Series E modified.

Using the same letter height, Series E modified is the same width as the entire legend but the letters look too bold. Using Series D, and three different versions at that (FHWA, Roadgeek and Georgia D), the legend is way too short in length, being about 3/4 of the length of the original version. The letter shapes match exactly to Georgia D, so I would say that it is Series D modified but with some additional spacing.  This little experiment after your comment about the lettering has been rather enlightening to me as that explains why non button copy Series E modified in all caps has always looked wrong to me. So the words "EXIT" and "MILE" on your average button copy BGS is in Series D modified, not Series E modified.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on April 23, 2017, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: plain on April 22, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 22, 2017, 09:51:47 AM
I found an interesting sign arrangement while doing some research on Missouri Route 87.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3994033,-92.5634225,3a,75y,345.35h,80.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWUmfITeIPLpZzj5dKcIE6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Why am I doing research on MO 87, you ask? Because part of it is overlapped by the Interstate 70 Business Loop in Boonville, Missouri.

Did they really need that much caution yellow on a 45 mph curve? The speed limit on that 2-lane road can't be no more than 55

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 22, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
Speaking of Missouri...

(https://i.imgur.com/RwboG9e.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/RwboG9e.jpg)

What's the deal with this enormous thing? I found this yesterday at the junction of US-63/136 and MO-202. Is it some sort of MO thing I don't know about, or...?

I believe these to be Missouri things. When I was making regular trips up there, it seemed like I saw assemblies like those above all the time. I had been to Booneville several times. I want to go back & see what they did with the Katy Trail & the bridge over the Missouri River.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on April 23, 2017, 04:15:13 PM
Some temporary signage posted where a gantry ususally stands. Not the worst example I've seen, but far from good with its undersized symbols and shields, squashed text, and lack of colors.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F51vCC33.jpg&hash=e41f3bbf50776915941e1fd4b97a847f3caa72ed)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGRD2QZ3.jpg&hash=8d2d3dd08cb6e727aa959655ac61c17b64cba6b5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 23, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what my parish tax dollars are working on here, or why they're working on a minor side street instead of the adjacent US highway.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4182/34191904136_c01a30b065.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U6qrSy)(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2834/34191904636_e63b1296ac.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U6qs2b)

Speaking of clipped lozenges, here's one in Lafayette, LA. Says "RIGHT LANE ENDS AHEAD."

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3935/32858952903_3e1e8cc329.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S4CHUK)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on April 23, 2017, 11:15:39 PM
Here's a photo I took today of sign in Saskatoon, SK which lists all the different Pringle's (i.e. lane, link, court, etc) in the area. Apparently these signs are common the suburban areas, since there's a whole bunch of them on Stensrud Rd between Willowgrove Blvd and McOrmond Dr.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fz0UbVaS.jpg&hash=88aa9ef61a4438f4d2015236710e30849d4a7dd3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on April 24, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 23, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what my parish tax dollars are working on here, or why they're working on a minor side street instead of the adjacent US highway.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4182/34191904136_c01a30b065.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U6qrSy)(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2834/34191904636_e63b1296ac.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U6qs2b)

Speaking of clipped lozenges, here's one in Lafayette, LA. Says "RIGHT LANE ENDS AHEAD."

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3935/32858952903_3e1e8cc329.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/S4CHUK)

Think about the tax dollars the parish used to make that sign. That could have bought a couple more shovel-fulls of pothole-patching material.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 24, 2017, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on April 24, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 23, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what my parish tax dollars are working on here, or why they're working on a minor side street instead of the adjacent US highway.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2834/34191904636_e63b1296ac.jpg

Think about the tax dollars the parish used to make that sign. That could have bought a couple more shovel-fulls of pothole-patching material.

I don't think the sign cost much of anything.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 24, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 23, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what my parish tax dollars are working on here, or why they're working on a minor side street instead of the adjacent US highway.

Perhaps your parish tax dollars are not working on the US highway because that's your state DOT's job?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 24, 2017, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 24, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 23, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what my parish tax dollars are working on here, or why they're working on a minor side street instead of the adjacent US highway.

Perhaps your parish tax dollars are not working on the US highway because that's your state DOT's job?

Nonetheless, I couldn't figure out what they were doing on that side street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 24, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 24, 2017, 08:07:22 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 24, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: jbnv on April 23, 2017, 10:54:47 PM
I'm not sure what my parish tax dollars are working on here, or why they're working on a minor side street instead of the adjacent US highway.

Perhaps your parish tax dollars are not working on the US highway because that's your state DOT's job?

Nonetheless, I couldn't figure out what they were doing on that side street.
Putting up that sign. :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 25, 2017, 09:25:28 PM
Here's some stuff I've seen in the past 6 months around the southeast.
First, here's an interesting sign at a 3-way intersection here in Huntsville, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2889/34141855871_59e374d9c3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U1ZWgr)Traffic From Left Not Required to Stop (https://flic.kr/p/U1ZWgr) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2831/34272831645_9a5e40e3f7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdzdNr)Traffic From Left Not Required to Stop (https://flic.kr/p/UdzdNr) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4160/34272831095_950317e9e3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdzdCX)Traffic From Left Not Required to Stop (https://flic.kr/p/UdzdCX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Here's the intersection for those who are curious. (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6583863,-86.5227675,3a,89.9y,8.16h,72.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVW318VxBzNyvPkVi1wjx4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Now moving on, a home-made T-intersection Ahead sign in Stevenson, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4175/34141857371_c3b615364e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U1ZWHi)Home-made T-intersection Ahead Sign (https://flic.kr/p/U1ZWHi) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

This Slow School Zone sign in the same town (and on the same road) also looks rather old, but I found it more "odd" than "best of":
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2819/33888852690_924e921a34_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCDeeC)Slow School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/TCDeeC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And in Decatur, AL, a School Zone Speed Limit sign that omits the "School" banner:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2843/34232264516_6d1a1fb63a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U9ZiBb)When Flashing (https://flic.kr/p/U9ZiBb) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Also from Decatur, "No Trucks with Trailers":
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4155/34272834435_43494cfa57_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdzeCx)No Trucks With Trailers (https://flic.kr/p/UdzeCx) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And in Cullman County, AL, some county route shields that have "county" blanked out:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2878/34272833575_bfe79d5403_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdzenH)CR 1432 (https://flic.kr/p/UdzenH) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4194/34232263766_35550566a9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U9Ziof)CR 1395/CR 1238 (https://flic.kr/p/U9Ziof) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And in similar vain, apparently Jackson County, AL was to embarrassed by CR 591 for some reason and removed their name from this shield:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4189/33463095543_bccf9411a3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27ta)CR 591 (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27ta) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2882/33463095023_5492e6edc5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27jc)CR 591 (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27jc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2826/34272995655_f54df4a9d6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA4yc)CR 591 (https://flic.kr/p/UdA4yc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Up in Smyrna, TN, we have these weird Do Not Stop on Tracks signs:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2862/33889014340_d4d132c847_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCE4hG)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/TCE4hG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2830/34273014235_73b393bedc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdAa5x)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/UdAa5x) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2822/34272993995_b9205be372_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA44z)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/UdA44z) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4158/33889013200_6c8b378aab_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCE3X3)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/TCE3X3) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2856/34142014751_c5914f0617_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U21KuK)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/U21KuK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2829/33889010930_7c7631efe0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCE3gU)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/TCE3gU) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2867/34232446956_e09c42c240_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eQG)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eQG) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2851/34142012801_0e3a2a1eb2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U21JV8)Odd Do Not Stop on Tracks Sign (https://flic.kr/p/U21JV8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Also in Smyrna, while I'm certain these placards are in the MUTCD, never saw one before I saw this sign:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4168/34232446106_6d893a519f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eA3)NOTICE (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eA3) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4190/33889006350_068b80201e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCE1UW)NOTICE (https://flic.kr/p/TCE1UW) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And then there's this interesting warning sign for the upcoming intersection, which takes into account the traffic circle and neighboring railroad crossing:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2826/34232445536_ec53bf81be_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eqd)Interesting Intersection Sign (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eqd) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2853/34232445166_c684ec1600_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eiQ)Interesting Intersection Sign (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1eiQ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And also near Smyrna is this odd I-24 trailblazer, which lacks the "TO" banner and has an interesting arrow to go with it:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4191/34232444786_1b10755c7e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1ech)Odd Arrow (https://flic.kr/p/Ua1ech) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And in La Vernge, TN, we have a sign with a lot of words where a Stop Here on Red sign and/or a Do Not Block Driveway(s) sign would work just as well:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2945/34273005865_2e7d4bcff5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA7Ae)Quite a bit to read... (https://flic.kr/p/UdA7Ae) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

La Vernge also has these interesting signs:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2857/33889002700_111da10543_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCDZQ1)Emergency Vehicles Entering Highway (https://flic.kr/p/TCDZQ1) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4160/34142006241_14d7e98981_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U21GY2)Emergency Vehicles Entering Highway (https://flic.kr/p/U21GY2) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4173/33888998670_0bcee167a7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCDYCw)Emergency Vehicles Entering Highway (https://flic.kr/p/TCDYCw) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And in Christiana, TN, they have these odd street blades at intersections where the road name changes:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2876/34142004441_8168cab50c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U21GqZ)IMG_1048 (https://flic.kr/p/U21GqZ) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

On US 231 South in Shelbyville, TN, you've got these rather odd "Highway Undivides" signs:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2943/33888996050_2f9d0d4ff8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCDXRm)Odd Signs (https://flic.kr/p/TCDXRm) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4158/34142002971_ebc2ef8738_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U21FZD)Odd Signs (https://flic.kr/p/U21FZD) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2851/33888994050_26703e26ce_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCDXfS)Odd Signs (https://flic.kr/p/TCDXfS) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And heading into Georgia, I noticed that rather than having a standard School Speed Limit sign, they have these (even though the proper signs would actually be enforceable per the MUTCD):
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2820/34273001775_c67f66f985_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA6nH)Slow School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/UdA6nH) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2877/34273000995_d427994a6e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA69g)Slow School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/UdA69g) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4156/34272999565_e1e972100b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA5HB)Slow School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/UdA5HB) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And in Graysville, GA (a small unincorporated town near Chattanooga, TN that lost incorporation status in the 1990s, IIRC), they have this rectangular "Deaf Chile Area" sign:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2859/34115801512_e85ed3201a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TYGpdm)Deaf Child Area (https://flic.kr/p/TYGpdm) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2864/34272998155_cb259d561b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA5ii)Deaf Child Area (https://flic.kr/p/UdA5ii) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

They also have this 25 MPH sign rather than an actual speed limit sign:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2948/33463097203_ee7e552325_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27XM)25 MPH (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27XM) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2942/34272996685_68f270c838_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA4RX)25 MPH (https://flic.kr/p/UdA4RX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And going back to Madison County, AL, real quick, here's an interesting No Parking sign:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4155/34273028805_8b76d490b7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdAepK)No Parking Trucks/Trailers (https://flic.kr/p/UdAepK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

And now, in Smyrna, GA, it appears Smyrna, TN isn't the only Smyrna to have odd signage at railroad crossings. Here's a rather odd No Train Horn sign next to a crossing in Smyrna, GA (the crossing itself is also non-standard too, but that's a story for another time):
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2819/34116096082_46bba97a40_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TYHUM9)Odd No Train Horn Sign (https://flic.kr/p/TYHUM9) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4162/33463387843_e5f52f0a4f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ3BmP)Odd No Train Horn Sign (https://flic.kr/p/SZ3BmP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 25, 2017, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on April 25, 2017, 09:25:28 PM

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2819/33888852690_924e921a34_b.jpg)[/url]Slow School Zone (https://flic.kr/p/TCDeeC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Around here, the words would be swapped; it would say:

SCHOOL
SLOW
  ZONE
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on April 25, 2017, 10:28:03 PM
I also found these guys in Madison County, AL just outside of Huntsville back in November, but forgot to post them:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2882/33432474034_aa9b9a26ab_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SWjaL7)Odd arrow signs (https://flic.kr/p/SWjaL7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2883/33890412280_14fdee91ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCMdR7)Odd arrow signs (https://flic.kr/p/TCMdR7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 26, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on April 25, 2017, 09:25:28 PM
And in similar vain, apparently Jackson County, AL was to embarrassed by CR 591 for some reason and removed their name from this shield:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4189/33463095543_bccf9411a3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27ta)CR 591 (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27ta) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2882/33463095023_5492e6edc5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27jc)CR 591 (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27jc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2826/34272995655_f54df4a9d6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UdA4yc)CR 591 (https://flic.kr/p/UdA4yc) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Either that, or maybe a part of Jackson County was trying to separate and form their own county.

:spin: :crazy:



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 27, 2017, 12:43:31 AM
This "Divided Highway" sign, posted leaving the parking lot from an Incredible Universe a Fry's Electronics in Wilsonville, Oregon, is a bit misleading (at least in my opinion). Here's a Maps link...tell me what you think: https://goo.gl/V0gDNj

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX6pVl7P.png&hash=eae7499db7594c0d523e725eeced35a062a601a2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 27, 2017, 01:17:23 AM
Quote from: 2009 MUTCDStandard:
On unsignalized minor-street approaches from which both left turns and right turns are permitted onto a divided highway that has a median width at the intersection itself of 30 feet or more ... a Divided Highway Crossing (R6-3 or R6-3a) sign [the sign in jakeroot's picture] shall be used to advise road users that they are approaching an intersection with a divided highway.

That's definitely not 30 feet, so...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 27, 2017, 06:16:32 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on April 25, 2017, 09:25:28 PM
And in similar vain, apparently Jackson County, AL was to embarrassed by CR 591 for some reason and removed their name from this shield:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4189/33463095543_bccf9411a3_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SZ27ta)

I think some of the county names are removed because the sign is only used for emergency/911 purposes; I have seen a few from nearby De Kalb County which also remove or block the words.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 27, 2017, 09:45:53 AM
I forgot I took this picture about a month ago, and just now remembered it: another display of weird Iowan street blades, this time in rural Cherokee County at the junction of IA-3 and 7

(https://i.imgur.com/zGzsZfH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/zGzsZfH.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on April 30, 2017, 06:40:46 PM
These arrows. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4786722,-90.9551322,3a,37.5y,65.18h,80.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3TogMSZqr4aEwEdgi0U9qw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I'm pretty sure that this (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4810746,-90.9546524,3a,75y,3.16h,88.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBVbD2mtNc4d4-QcQ0K9BFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is not the correct color scheme for regulatory signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on May 02, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Saw this odd-looking MA 38 reassurance marker (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5020438,-71.1584495,3a,75y,339.3h,78.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQMScb73XAn02_Fxb7baWaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) just north of the I-95/MA 128 interchange.

Here's its southern counterpart, (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4964685,-71.1557576,3a,75y,183.28h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_RWphk3UgUwSikt4Pv9IUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) south of the interchange.

Even odder is that the supplemental MA 128 trailblazer signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.498398,-71.1562509,3a,75y,44.44h,77.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so4R8D2Zc5S8fxBUVXfl6xQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) at the interchange are standard MassDOT-issue.  Not sure what the deal is with the above MA 38 installs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on May 02, 2017, 12:25:05 PM
They look like Wisconsin county shields.

Quote from: PHLBOS on May 02, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Saw this odd-looking MA 38 reassurance marker (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5020438,-71.1584495,3a,75y,339.3h,78.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQMScb73XAn02_Fxb7baWaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) just north of the I-95/MA 128 interchange.

Here's its southern counterpart, (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4964685,-71.1557576,3a,75y,183.28h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_RWphk3UgUwSikt4Pv9IUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) south of the interchange.

Even odder is that the supplemental MA 128 trailblazer signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.498398,-71.1562509,3a,75y,44.44h,77.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so4R8D2Zc5S8fxBUVXfl6xQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) at the interchange are standard MassDOT-issue.  Not sure what the deal is with the above MA 38 installs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on May 02, 2017, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 02, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Saw this odd-looking MA 38 reassurance marker (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5020438,-71.1584495,3a,75y,339.3h,78.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQMScb73XAn02_Fxb7baWaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) just north of the I-95/MA 128 interchange.

Here's its southern counterpart, (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4964685,-71.1557576,3a,75y,183.28h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_RWphk3UgUwSikt4Pv9IUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) south of the interchange.

I know it's a contractor error, but I like those significantly more than I like Mass's current shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on May 02, 2017, 01:13:51 PM
Quote from: Ian on May 02, 2017, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 02, 2017, 11:03:57 AM
Saw this odd-looking MA 38 reassurance marker (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5020438,-71.1584495,3a,75y,339.3h,78.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQMScb73XAn02_Fxb7baWaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) just north of the I-95/MA 128 interchange.

Here's its southern counterpart, (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4964685,-71.1557576,3a,75y,183.28h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_RWphk3UgUwSikt4Pv9IUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) south of the interchange.

I know it's a contractor error, but I like those significantly more than I like Mass's current shields.

They look like modified Wisconsin county highway shields with "MA" in place of "COUNTY".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 04, 2017, 09:10:56 PM
Did anyone see this stop sign at Wildwood State Park?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wildwood_State_Park_from_North_Wading_River_Road.jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on May 05, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
Along I-195 eastbound in Providence, RI; one jumbo-sized 2 and arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8184542,-71.3963502,3a,75y,249.8h,85.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sro2GSgrX5vtQDHQ28KHUfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to go please.

Its westbound counterpart (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8175228,-71.3975658,3a,75y,70.55h,68.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swJXD1UXmZs4eMKE4F5Svsg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) isn't as obnoxious.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 05, 2017, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 05, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
Along I-195 eastbound in Providence, RI; one jumbo-sized 2 and arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8184542,-71.3963502,3a,75y,249.8h,85.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sro2GSgrX5vtQDHQ28KHUfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to go please.

Nice, a rare sighting of Series F out in the wild.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on May 06, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 05, 2017, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 05, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
Along I-195 eastbound in Providence, RI; one jumbo-sized 2 and arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8184542,-71.3963502,3a,75y,249.8h,85.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sro2GSgrX5vtQDHQ28KHUfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to go please.

Nice, a rare sighting of Series F out in the wild.

You'd love New York (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3899/14773152958_a34c386de9_o.jpg).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 06, 2017, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: Ian on May 06, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
You'd love New York (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3899/14773152958_a34c386de9_o.jpg).

Yuck.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 06, 2017, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on April 25, 2017, 10:28:03 PM
I also found these guys in Madison County, AL just outside of Huntsville back in November, but forgot to post them:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2882/33432474034_aa9b9a26ab_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SWjaL7)Odd arrow signs (https://flic.kr/p/SWjaL7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2883/33890412280_14fdee91ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCMdR7)Odd arrow signs (https://flic.kr/p/TCMdR7) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
I saw similar object markers on some Google Street View searches of the Northern Rockies while doing research on Interstate Business Routes in that region, but they were white and fluorescent orange, and completely surrounded the directional signs.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on May 07, 2017, 10:29:22 PM
Interesting arrows... (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.6311335,-123.103415,3a,33.6y,98.81h,96.76t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1srRElCfG5Q5vC3vXT45IFzg!2e0!5s20150801T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 08, 2017, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: Ian on May 06, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 05, 2017, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 05, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
Along I-195 eastbound in Providence, RI; one jumbo-sized 2 and arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8184542,-71.3963502,3a,75y,249.8h,85.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sro2GSgrX5vtQDHQ28KHUfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to go please.

Nice, a rare sighting of Series F out in the wild.

You'd love New York (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3899/14773152958_a34c386de9_o.jpg).

The mile marker in that pic... how long have NY been doing that? I haven't been up there in a while
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 08, 2017, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: plain on May 08, 2017, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: Ian on May 06, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
You'd love New York (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3899/14773152958_a34c386de9_o.jpg).
The mile marker in that pic... how long have NY been doing that? I haven't been up there in a while
That's a Region 1 thing... and not the current style.  New tenth mile markers in Region 1 use the standard MUTCD marker (the one that's the same size as the one shown, without the shield/direction).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 09, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
This is my fave:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3669/9040229485_c4da63006f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on May 09, 2017, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 09, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
This is my fave:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3669/9040229485_c4da63006f_c.jpg)
Wow, I hope nobody is riding a tall bike on that sidewalk.  https://goo.gl/maps/tkGjfF2BotM2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2017, 05:10:05 PM
This warning sign in Ankeny, IA, out in front of Ashland Ridge Elementary School:

(https://i.imgur.com/B4Foxuq.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/B4Foxuq.jpg)

Pretty sure it should instead be a regulatory lane control sign, but instead, they put this up. :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 09, 2017, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 08, 2017, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: plain on May 08, 2017, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: Ian on May 06, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
You'd love New York (https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3899/14773152958_a34c386de9_o.jpg).
The mile marker in that pic... how long have NY been doing that? I haven't been up there in a while
That's a Region 1 thing... and not the current style.  New tenth mile markers in Region 1 use the standard MUTCD marker (the one that's the same size as the one shown, without the shield/direction).

Oh ok... that white part at the bottom kinda threw me off
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 12, 2017, 01:19:58 PM
Found this unusual sign on US 64 Business in Columbia NC last weekend.  Something normally associated with boating...

There was one in each direction.  I guess during heavy rains the high street curb pools a lot of water in the road and there are houses and/or yards that get water being pushed over the curb by fast moving vehicles...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fnowake-64bus.jpg&hash=5b205c28f410204e7cacb5aa49eadfc2d7992bf0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 12, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 12, 2017, 01:19:58 PM
Found this unusual sign on US 64 Business in Columbia NC last weekend.  Something normally associated with boating...

There was one in each direction.  I guess during heavy rains the high street curb pools a lot of water in the road and there are houses and/or yards that get water being pushed over the curb by fast moving vehicles...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fnowake-64bus.jpg&hash=5b205c28f410204e7cacb5aa49eadfc2d7992bf0)

Putting up a sign is cheaper than fixing the storm drains.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 12, 2017, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: kkt on May 12, 2017, 03:42:53 PM

Putting up a sign is cheaper than fixing the storm drains.



There don't appear to be many except at the stoplight ahead per 2008 GMSV.  Columbia is tiny as is Tyrell County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on May 14, 2017, 07:04:36 PM
Tangipahoa Parish seems to like making odd, unusual signs.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4163/34662613885_7eefedc202_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UP1XtT)
Nonstandard Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/UP1XtT) by Jay Bienvenu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bienvenunet/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4178/34621954306_d959045438_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UKqyNE)
Altered BUMP Sign (https://flic.kr/p/UKqyNE) by Jay Bienvenu (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bienvenunet/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 15, 2017, 09:14:14 AM
Quote from: kkt on May 12, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 12, 2017, 01:19:58 PM
Found this unusual sign on US 64 Business in Columbia NC last weekend.  Something normally associated with boating...

There was one in each direction.  I guess during heavy rains the high street curb pools a lot of water in the road and there are houses and/or yards that get water being pushed over the curb by fast moving vehicles...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fnowake-64bus.jpg&hash=5b205c28f410204e7cacb5aa49eadfc2d7992bf0)

Putting up a sign is cheaper than fixing the storm drains.


Here's the (standard) maritime version of that sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.campgroundsigns.com%2Fimg%2Flg%2FK%2Fslow-no-wake-zone-sign-k-0100.png&hash=c57efdab0394c8d051fb0b005460b73c3e7d1c83)

Come to think of it, I need one of these posted alongside my bed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 15, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
This school zone, near Archbishop Murphy High School (along a 45 MPH-zone of 132 St near Mill Creek, Washington) is 35 MPH, way higher than any other school zone I've ever seen, even outside of Washington (though I'm sure higher limit school zones exist).

My understanding has been that 20 MPH zones near schools were put in place to reduce the likelihood of pedestrian vs car collision being fatal. The chance of a fatal collision between a pedestrian and a car is much higher at 35 (though lower than 45, so it's better than nothing I suppose).

I don't support artificially low limits (the speed of traffic is always the safest), but schools are rife with pedestrian activity, and stupid children. I don't think 35 is the safest speed for a school zone.

Oh, and inb4 someone links a youtube video of Helen Lovejoy squealing about children.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLlogHLG.jpg&hash=a3dc42d0b8df7da147f97eb5934879516679076f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 15, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
In Colorado, I have seen School Zone signs as high as 45 MPH on major arteries.  I have seen a school zone at 35 MPH -- the same speed as the regular speed limit (which pretty much says the fines increase if you go over the regular speed limit during school hours).  I'm sure they determined the speed limits by the proximity of the school (does the road border the actual school property?), the non-school zone limit, the amount of children who actually walk along and/or cross the road in the zone area.

Some states, regardless of the type of road (residential/commercial/expressway) will automatically sign the zone at xx MPH (Ohio is a standard 20 MPH -- even if the regular speed is 55, for example).

Personally, with more parents choosing to have their kids picked-up at school if they don't get to ride a bus, some of these zones not adjacent to school property should be reviewed and either speed-adjusted or removed as the amount of schoolkid traffic has been reduced over the years.  I see more uncontrolled kids in areas where they are picked-up/dropped off en-masse at neighborhood stops than in school zones, but the speeds aren't reduced there, yet the speeds are slower where the kids are more behaved and crossings are more monitored (by adult crossing guards, teachers, parents,...).



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on May 16, 2017, 02:50:10 AM
Just today I passed a 40 MPH school zone on US 20 east of Michigan City, IN. I believe it was for Renaissance Academy Charter School, which actually has a La Porte address. That's the highest limit I recall seeing for a school zone. The school is right on the highway, though I doubt that there are any pedestrians in the area. The limit outside the school zone is 55.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 16, 2017, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 15, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
I don't support artificially low limits (the speed of traffic is always the safest), but schools are rife with pedestrian activity, and stupid children. I don't think 35 is the safest speed for a school zone.

It depends...there's residential neighborhoods with lots of kids crossing the road, and even a few major thoroughfares which even needed crossing guards. Those are the ones that need low (15-20 mph) limits. But there's also many of them that just have a lot of traffic scooting in and out of the school, and slowing it down a bit allows for better traffic flow. In that case, I can understand going towards a 25-30 mph limit.

Schools also used to be placed closer alongside the road, but there's been more of a trend to have some sort of parking lots in front of them nowadays, to facilitate transportation and keep the traffic off the adjacent route, if possible. The elementary school closest to my home has no children crossing the street, because it's a more modern design, and the residential neighborhoods are behind it (so walkers use the side entrances).

Here's a 45 mph speed limit (with a fugly "4") on US 84 in Georgia - somewhere a bit west of Quitman. US 84 has a 65 mph limit around there, but I suppose there's almost no students walking around, so it's all buses/pick-up/drop-offs, because there didn't seem to be much in the way of residents in the immediate area.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/585/22495797773_a28efdaab0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AgSQWi)

I was used to 15-20 mph school speed limits down in much of Florida, which applied no matter what the local speed limit was. Other places seem to drop the limit a set number of miles per hour below the standard posted limit. There's a few places near me on US 72 where it goes from 65 to 35 (when flashing), and even then, I find it hard to wrap my head around a 35-mph school speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on May 16, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4194/34664468086_da257c8abe.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UPbsES)20170516_173552 (https://flic.kr/p/UPbsES) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 16, 2017, 10:55:18 PM
Most of NJ's school zones are 25, 30 or 35 mph. In general, the limit drops 15 mph for elementary schools; 10 mph for high schools, with 25 usually being the mininum school zone speed. Thus, a 25 mph school zone may exist when the road is normally 25 mph.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 16, 2017, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 16, 2017, 08:40:45 AM
I was used to 15-20 mph school speed limits down in much of Florida, which applied no matter what the local speed limit was. Other places seem to drop the limit a set number of miles per hour below the standard posted limit. There's a few places near me on US 72 where it goes from 65 to 35 (when flashing), and even then, I find it hard to wrap my head around a 35-mph school speed limit.
Moon Lake Road just south of Florida SR 52 used to have a 50-mph school speed limit until around 15 years ago or so. I used to think 35 was pretty fast for a school zone.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 17, 2017, 06:39:43 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 15, 2017, 09:14:14 AM


Here's the (standard) maritime version of that sign:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.campgroundsigns.com%2Fimg%2Flg%2FK%2Fslow-no-wake-zone-sign-k-0100.png&hash=c57efdab0394c8d051fb0b005460b73c3e7d1c83)

Come to think of it, I need one of these posted alongside my bed.

Would make a terrific waterbed pillow...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on May 17, 2017, 02:55:04 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 16, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
https://flic.kr/p/UPbsES

A church moving at 25 MPH, I'd think, would be a fast church.  Don't those things normally "move" at 0 MPH?

Or, are they insulting the congregation before suggesting a speed of 25 MPH?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on May 18, 2017, 12:01:52 AM
Not your normal low clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6618436,-117.3870671,3a,15y,104.19h,89.78t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D91.5%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100?hl=en). Probably a Spokane install, but could be WSDOT (it's on a city portion of a state highway, and those tend to be somewhat of a mix when it comes to signs and markings).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on May 18, 2017, 02:29:04 AM
On NY 245, just outside the village of Rushville in Yates County, there's a 45 mph school zone on an otherwise 55 mph 2-lane road.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7553883,-77.243807,3a,66.8y,91.55h,87.23t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1si7RmTfhPe6lCUO34hV5OBQ!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on May 18, 2017, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: jay8g on May 18, 2017, 12:01:52 AM
Not your normal low clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6618436,-117.3870671,3a,15y,104.19h,89.78t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D91.5%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100?hl=en). Probably a Spokane install, but could be WSDOT (it's on a city portion of a state highway, and those tend to be somewhat of a mix when it comes to signs and markings).
Check your link- doesn't appear to be pointing at what you want.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 18, 2017, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: chays on May 18, 2017, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: jay8g on May 18, 2017, 12:01:52 AM
Not your normal low clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6618436,-117.3870671,3a,15y,104.19h,89.78t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D91.5%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100?hl=en). Probably a Spokane install, but could be WSDOT (it's on a city portion of a state highway, and those tend to be somewhat of a mix when it comes to signs and markings).
Check your link- doesn't appear to be pointing at what you want.
I think this is what he meant: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6618436,-117.3870671,3a,75y,130.3h,85.05t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DPLqOWx1bStK-Sf_i3LS6wA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D91.5%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 18, 2017, 07:36:44 PM
I don't think that link is working either.  The first is the brown building, the second is the industrial building and surrounding area.  Neither link has a single road sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 18, 2017, 08:09:09 PM
WashDOT recently replaced some signage along the southbound I-5 C/D lanes south of Seattle (near the I-90 interchange). One of the replaced signs contained one of the few instances of the word "OK" being used on a BGS. Two other examples of this practice exist (Hwy 18 approaching I-5 (here (https://goo.gl/fIAOH3)) (itself a relatively new sign), and I-5 SB approaching the 101 (here (https://goo.gl/d9t930))).

Interestingly, the new signage maintains the use of the word "OK". The new sign is below, and a link to the old sign is here (https://goo.gl/IjEM8E).

The new sign does have a couple of issues. First, the down arrows aren't right. The stems are too narrow. The bigger issue, though, is the use of "TO" in the label. This sign is pointing drivers towards the on-ramp to I-90. It's not really a "TO" situation. It's more of a "IS" situation.

Note that "Spokane" was dropped as a control city.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXhZFKAz.jpg&hash=b1cfa276d34f9fc7f9d654df60c1bff6e3aac006)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 18, 2017, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 18, 2017, 07:36:44 PM
I don't think that link is working either.  The first is the brown building, the second is the industrial building and surrounding area.  Neither link has a single road sign.

I think this is what they were trying to point to...

https://goo.gl/maps/h62ZXNsjeyH2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on May 18, 2017, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 18, 2017, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 18, 2017, 07:36:44 PM
I don't think that link is working either.  The first is the brown building, the second is the industrial building and surrounding area.  Neither link has a single road sign.

I think this is what they were trying to point to...

https://goo.gl/maps/h62ZXNsjeyH2

I like it a lot. Put a height tab below it, and you're set IMO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 20, 2017, 06:05:19 PM
Didn't get a photo of the sign (stupid Google Camera app on my phone is too slow with the shutter button) but on I-84 in CT, I saw an orange construction sign that said "Exit 25 local traffic only, police take notice." So if someone with out of state plates takes the exit, are cops supposed to tail them if they were off to a drug deal or something?

Also seen on I-287 in White Plains:
(https://i.imgur.com/hpAL0U2.jpg)
Wonder if the city of Right Lane, NY would be a good place to live?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on May 20, 2017, 07:22:12 PM
NYSTA and NYSDOT have a few signs that are variations of the above scattered around the state, all of which are at lane drops where the extra attention is warranted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 20, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Has anyone else seen the yellow Speed Limit 40 sign on Sumter County Road 48 in Bushnell, Florida east of I-75 and west of the furthest east entrance to Wal-Mart. If I can't get a picture of it tonight (due to an approaching thunderstorm), I'll try to post my own pic of it on Wikimedia Commons and show the link to you people in another post either tomorrow or after the weekend.


Or, you could just look for it on the most recent Google Street View.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on May 20, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
Since when was "Trnpk" (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5490209,-77.4143806,3a,15.1y,313.97h,106.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scDkZSUZ3JloiTA2yiKth2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) an acceptable abbreviation?

But, then again, I've seen this in Oklahoma, so draw your own conclusions here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 20, 2017, 11:58:27 PM
Passed a "PIPELINE CONSTRUCTION AHEAD" work zone sign today.  Wish I had taken a picture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on May 21, 2017, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 20, 2017, 11:58:27 PM
Passed a "PIPELINE CONSTRUCTION AHEAD" work zone sign today.  Wish I had taken a picture.

Been seeing tons of those around here. I'll get you one in a day or so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on May 21, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 18, 2017, 08:09:09 PM
WashDOT recently replaced some signage along the southbound I-5 C/D lanes south of Seattle (near the I-90 interchange). One of the replaced signs contained one of the few instances of the word "OK" being used on a BGS. Two other examples of this practice exist (Hwy 18 approaching I-5 (here (https://goo.gl/fIAOH3)) (itself a relatively new sign), and I-5 SB approaching the 101 (here (https://goo.gl/d9t930))).

Interestingly, the new signage maintains the use of the word "OK". The new sign is below, and a link to the old sign is here (https://goo.gl/IjEM8E).

The new sign does have a couple of issues. First, the down arrows aren't right. The stems are too narrow. The bigger issue, though, is the use of "TO" in the label. This sign is pointing drivers towards the on-ramp to I-90. It's not really a "TO" situation. It's more of a "IS" situation.

Note that "Spokane" was dropped as a control city.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXhZFKAz.jpg&hash=b1cfa276d34f9fc7f9d654df60c1bff6e3aac006)

I find myself asking this a lot in Washington, but what was wrong with the old signs? Was WSDOT bored, or did they have some budget money that would go bye-bye if not used?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 22, 2017, 12:25:03 AM
Try to zoom in on the street name sign on that frontage road along US 17 northeast of I-95 near Brunswick:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ashton_%26_Flash_Food_Drives_near_Brunswick,_GA-1.jpg

Am I right in assuming the "PE" marking on the sign means "Private Enterprise," or am I just wasting my time asking about this?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 22, 2017, 02:53:03 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 22, 2017, 12:25:03 AM
Am I right in assuming the "PE" marking on the sign means "Private Enterprise," or am I just wasting my time asking about this?

I'd assume it means "private entrance."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on May 28, 2017, 02:19:19 PM
Here are some from my drive today:

This highway 7/8 sign on New Dundee Road in North Dumfries, ON:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fe9PF70f.jpg&hash=8956a70fbfff00b6a000e36415b0e0d807cdbb3f)

This strange "TO 401" sign on Cedar Creek Road in North Dumfries, ON:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXlT3cbq.jpg&hash=332a129b30310caab67337f699765baf5c255fa1)

Yellow "South" tab in Simcoe, ON:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpCToyMV.jpg&hash=3258e96660cab0598a5395a15c280a3bcc6a8923)

The "ENDS" is written on the shield for Highway 24 in Simcoe, ON:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fwf7chPh.jpg&hash=ce99e8a0ab14f23d76f62cf5c3a3bfe8c7e02ffa)

This Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro sign on Fairway Crescent in Kitchener, ON:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNOLXwJl.jpg&hash=c6847e04cb66f7fa437e315320276029d8b2a1fc)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on May 29, 2017, 06:37:05 PM
One more I forgot to post was this photo of the large street signs along Bell Mill Side Road in Tillsonburg, ON. The blue street signs are mounted through slits in the two wooden posts. They're certainly hard to miss :)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoChfu1T.jpg&hash=541935e12fecc889c2545bbb0608fee2f2bf3528)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on May 30, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
I saw this "beauty" in Pawtucket, RI on Sunday, May 28, 2017. It's a block or so away from McCoy Stadium.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzdzgZKr.jpg&hash=ff2ab6586d32189ae9c1f54a1501b4f2be4c58bb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on May 30, 2017, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 30, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
I saw this "beauty" in Pawtucket, RI on Sunday, May 28, 2017. It's a block or so away from McCoy Stadium.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzdzgZKr.jpg&hash=ff2ab6586d32189ae9c1f54a1501b4f2be4c58bb)
Early 80s vintage w/an experimental font.  MA had these at nearly every road that interchanged w/the I-95 portion of 128 back then.  Some might still be around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: intelati49 on May 30, 2017, 12:24:38 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on May 30, 2017, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 30, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
I saw this "beauty" in Pawtucket, RI on Sunday, May 28, 2017. It's a block or so away from McCoy Stadium.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzdzgZKr.jpg&hash=ff2ab6586d32189ae9c1f54a1501b4f2be4c58bb)
Early 80s vintage w/an experimental font.  MA had these at nearly every road that interchanged w/the I-95 portion of 128 back then.  Some might still be around.

I'm kind of a fan of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on May 30, 2017, 12:37:34 PM
US 20 shield with old-style MassDPW font along Commonwealth Ave. in Boston (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3512891,-71.1166586,3a,75y,290.4h,90.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snI4v8Gjsf4VrYfSlcQrj7g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 01, 2017, 12:34:47 PM
Not sure why I didn't post this sooner, but that's a very interesting way to sign the crossing of a detour. On IA-110 NB north of Schaller, as part of the four-laning of US-20. Picture is from March 28th.

(https://i.imgur.com/wocFBEj.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on June 01, 2017, 09:45:19 PM
This BGS (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.9383217,-81.9431032,3a,37.5y,170.96h,87.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suIPl5JxDFuEaQaViMRqT2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in The Villages, Florida, is probably quite unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 02, 2017, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 20, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Has anyone else seen the yellow Speed Limit 40 sign on Sumter County Road 48 in Bushnell, Florida east of I-75 and west of the furthest east entrance to Wal-Mart. If I can't get a picture of it tonight (due to an approaching thunderstorm), I'll try to post my own pic of it on Wikimedia Commons and show the link to you people in another post either tomorrow or after the weekend.


Or, you could just look for it on the most recent Google Street View.
UPDATE: Never mind. I'll add the Google Street View link:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6686189,-82.1386729,3a,37.5y,118.98h,90.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc2kepJ4ImPA0cAj4jX7fTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I'll just post the picture I have of it later on.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 02, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: jbnv on June 01, 2017, 09:45:19 PM
This BGS (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.9383217,-81.9431032,3a,37.5y,170.96h,87.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suIPl5JxDFuEaQaViMRqT2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in The Villages, Florida, is probably quite unique.

Topical. :-D :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 02, 2017, 07:30:30 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 02, 2017, 07:21:28 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 20, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Has anyone else seen the yellow Speed Limit 40 sign on Sumter County Road 48 in Bushnell, Florida east of I-75 and west of the furthest east entrance to Wal-Mart. If I can't get a picture of it tonight (due to an approaching thunderstorm), I'll try to post my own pic of it on Wikimedia Commons and show the link to you people in another post either tomorrow or after the weekend.


Or, you could just look for it on the most recent Google Street View.
UPDATE: Never mind. I'll add the Google Street View link:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6686189,-82.1386729,3a,37.5y,118.98h,90.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc2kepJ4ImPA0cAj4jX7fTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I'll just post the picture I have of it later on.


And the sign ahead of it saying begin right turn lane where there is no such dedicated lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 09, 2017, 08:51:13 AM
Not sure I've ever seen an advisory plaque mounted below a route marker assembly before. This is the junction of MN-99 and 112 immediately west of Le Center.

(https://i.imgur.com/ACFZ0dn.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on June 09, 2017, 09:09:57 AM
A few taken on Wednesday:

This sign is somewhere on Speedvale Road in Guelph, ON. The "when flashing stop ahead" is fairly standard, but usually it's just the yellow light, with no painted green or red lights on the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRubQ1NV.jpg&hash=72884ba7f17e4c8ff440044e5b43f3bc0172daeb)

An older-looking "no left" blank-out sign on the same road.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrGkntqI.jpg&hash=bda05a5337f754fcdb6917e8207951e99d894b19)

The sign text is pretty standard, but in my area, it's always a white rectangle instead. This is on CR 124 east of Guelph.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH3OEnwn.jpg&hash=aa928dc478a9b64fbdd7e26f9901613f36cef4c6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 09, 2017, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 09, 2017, 09:09:57 AM

The sign text is pretty standard, but in my area, it's always a white rectangle instead. This is on CR 124 east of Guelph.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH3OEnwn.jpg&hash=aa928dc478a9b64fbdd7e26f9901613f36cef4c6)

I like how the text remains "self-balanced" while the sign itself is askew.  (yes i KNOW that cant happen....)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 09, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 09, 2017, 09:09:57 AM
A few taken on Wednesday:

This sign is somewhere on Speedvale Road in Guelph, ON. The "when flashing stop ahead" is fairly standard, but usually it's just the yellow light, with no painted green or red lights on the sign.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRubQ1NV.jpg&hash=72884ba7f17e4c8ff440044e5b43f3bc0172daeb)

That might be confusing in this scenario: the actual light at the intersection is red, but the sign's yellow light is flashing, making drivers think that the actual light is yellow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on June 11, 2017, 12:27:37 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on June 09, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 09, 2017, 09:09:57 AM
A few taken on Wednesday:

This sign is somewhere on Speedvale Road in Guelph, ON. The "when flashing stop ahead" is fairly standard, but usually it's just the yellow light, with no painted green or red lights on the sign.

image snipped

That might be confusing in this scenario: the actual light at the intersection is red, but the sign's yellow light is flashing, making drivers think that the actual light is yellow.

Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. They probably should have stuck with the yellow lights on the side (like this example in Waterloo (https://goo.gl/maps/vKrz9SCXBcs)). I still think it's a cool sign though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JJBers on June 11, 2017, 04:10:42 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 11, 2017, 12:27:37 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on June 09, 2017, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 09, 2017, 09:09:57 AM
A few taken on Wednesday:

This sign is somewhere on Speedvale Road in Guelph, ON. The "when flashing stop ahead" is fairly standard, but usually it's just the yellow light, with no painted green or red lights on the sign.

image snipped

That might be confusing in this scenario: the actual light at the intersection is red, but the sign's yellow light is flashing, making drivers think that the actual light is yellow.

Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. They probably should have stuck with the yellow lights on the side (like this example in Waterloo (https://goo.gl/maps/vKrz9SCXBcs)). I still think it's a cool sign though.
Well, that would be confusing driving by fast
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 11, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
My own shot of the yellow speed limit sign in Bushnell:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_Speed_Limit_Sign_on_Sumter_CR_48;_Bushnell,_FL.jpg

Anytime I post images of signs like this, I always feel like I'm setting them up to be torn down. Then again, that's true for all the unusual and non-standard signs that are posted here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: intelati49 on June 12, 2017, 10:28:51 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 11, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
My own shot of the yellow speed limit sign in Bushnell:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_Speed_Limit_Sign_on_Sumter_CR_48;_Bushnell,_FL.jpg

Anytime I post images of signs like this, I always feel like I'm setting them up to be torn down. Then again, that's true for all the unusual and non-standard signs that are posted here.

Okay, that's fugly.... :-o
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 12, 2017, 07:13:36 PM
Found one in that neon yellow/green color used for bike/ped signs: https://goo.gl/maps/cee3aiBmaa92
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 11, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
My own shot of the yellow speed limit sign in Bushnell:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_Speed_Limit_Sign_on_Sumter_CR_48;_Bushnell,_FL.jpg

How long has that been that way? I feel like you could easily ignore the limit and get any sort of ticket tossed. Though maybe the issue comes down to the importance of the message vs the color. Does the term "speed limit" override the yellow color? In my head, it wouldn't, but maybe a judge would disagree.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 13, 2017, 01:11:57 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:34:52 PM
How long has that been that way?
I probably should've looked at the tag on the back for the answer to that. As far as I know, it could've been around as long as the widening project started.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on June 13, 2017, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 11, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
My own shot of the yellow speed limit sign in Bushnell:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_Speed_Limit_Sign_on_Sumter_CR_48;_Bushnell,_FL.jpg

How long has that been that way? I feel like you could easily ignore the limit and get any sort of ticket tossed. Though maybe the issue comes down to the importance of the message vs the color. Does the term "speed limit" override the yellow color? In my head, it wouldn't, but maybe a judge would disagree.

While the idea of average schmoe getting away with a petty crime on a technicality makes for good copy, it's far more likely that a judge won't really care about the sign color.

Now if the sign had dark gray text on a black background, you might have a case...a well-faded "Night Speed Limit" sign, for example.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: formulanone on June 13, 2017, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 11, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
My own shot of the yellow speed limit sign in Bushnell:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_Speed_Limit_Sign_on_Sumter_CR_48;_Bushnell,_FL.jpg

How long has that been that way? I feel like you could easily ignore the limit and get any sort of ticket tossed. Though maybe the issue comes down to the importance of the message vs the color. Does the term "speed limit" override the yellow color? In my head, it wouldn't, but maybe a judge would disagree.

While the idea of average schmoe getting away with a petty crime on a technicality makes for good copy, it's far more likely that a judge won't really care about the sign color.

Guess it depends on the lawyer. I got a ticket tossed because the officer wrote down the wrong model of car that I was driving. Ticket = tossed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 13, 2017, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: formulanone on June 13, 2017, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 12, 2017, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 11, 2017, 03:58:10 PM
My own shot of the yellow speed limit sign in Bushnell:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Yellow_Speed_Limit_Sign_on_Sumter_CR_48;_Bushnell,_FL.jpg

How long has that been that way? I feel like you could easily ignore the limit and get any sort of ticket tossed. Though maybe the issue comes down to the importance of the message vs the color. Does the term "speed limit" override the yellow color? In my head, it wouldn't, but maybe a judge would disagree.

While the idea of average schmoe getting away with a petty crime on a technicality makes for good copy, it's far more likely that a judge won't really care about the sign color.

Guess it depends on the lawyer. I got a ticket tossed because the officer wrote down the wrong model of car that I was driving. Ticket = tossed.

Yeah, my dad had a few tickets tossed when he was younger for the cop spelling his name wrong on the ticket. Of course, not a thing anymore now that they just scan the license when writing tickets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

The wrong sign color? Most judges wouldn't even know or understand the differences in the color. They would only know that the sign said SPEED LIMIT xx on it, and that you were doing nn speed over that number. What would make a difference, though, is if that speed limit that was posted is not the right speed limit for the area in question (meaning not officially set by the governmental body responsible for setting the limit for that particular road).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

The wrong sign color? Most judges wouldn't even know or understand the differences in the color. They would only know that the sign said SPEED LIMIT xx on it, and that you were doing nn speed over that number. What would make a difference, though, is if that speed limit that was posted is not the right speed limit for the area in question (meaning not officially set by the governmental body responsible for setting the limit for that particular road).

We had a situation in my home county when I was much younger where a young state police officer was writing speeding tickets for people exceeding an advisory speed. The speed limit was 55 mph, but the advisory speed in this area (a "Congested Area" condition) was 35 mph. Those tickets got thrown out, and not because the speed being exceeded was in a yellow sign instead of a white sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 15, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

The wrong sign color? Most judges wouldn't even know or understand the differences in the color. They would only know that the sign said SPEED LIMIT xx on it, and that you were doing nn speed over that number. What would make a difference, though, is if that speed limit that was posted is not the right speed limit for the area in question (meaning not officially set by the governmental body responsible for setting the limit for that particular road).

We had a situation in my home county when I was much younger where a young state police officer was writing speeding tickets for people exceeding an advisory speed. The speed limit was 55 mph, but the advisory speed in this area (a "Congested Area" condition) was 35 mph. Those tickets got thrown out, and not because the speed being exceeded was in a yellow sign instead of a white sign.

Advisory speeds seem to be enforceable in Massachusetts. (My mom got one, but it was thrown out because the policeman didn't show up to court.) Are there any other states where this is the case?

EDIT: It was an exit ramp; it had nothing to do with the "thickly settled" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2017, 02:08:48 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

The wrong sign color? Most judges wouldn't even know or understand the differences in the color. They would only know that the sign said SPEED LIMIT xx on it, and that you were doing nn speed over that number. What would make a difference, though, is if that speed limit that was posted is not the right speed limit for the area in question (meaning not officially set by the governmental body responsible for setting the limit for that particular road).

We had a situation in my home county when I was much younger where a young state police officer was writing speeding tickets for people exceeding an advisory speed. The speed limit was 55 mph, but the advisory speed in this area (a "Congested Area" condition) was 35 mph. Those tickets got thrown out, and not because the speed being exceeded was in a yellow sign instead of a white sign.

Advisory speeds seem to be enforceable in Massachusetts. (My mom got one, but it was thrown out because the policeman didn't show up to court.) Are there any other states where this is the case?

EDIT: It was an exit ramp; it had nothing to do with the "thickly settled" signs.
If they are enforceable, why are they a different color?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 15, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

The wrong sign color? Most judges wouldn't even know or understand the differences in the color. They would only know that the sign said SPEED LIMIT xx on it, and that you were doing nn speed over that number. What would make a difference, though, is if that speed limit that was posted is not the right speed limit for the area in question (meaning not officially set by the governmental body responsible for setting the limit for that particular road).

We had a situation in my home county when I was much younger where a young state police officer was writing speeding tickets for people exceeding an advisory speed. The speed limit was 55 mph, but the advisory speed in this area (a "Congested Area" condition) was 35 mph. Those tickets got thrown out, and not because the speed being exceeded was in a yellow sign instead of a white sign.

Advisory speeds seem to be enforceable in Massachusetts. (My mom got one, but it was thrown out because the policeman didn't show up to court.) Are there any other states where this is the case?

EDIT: It was an exit ramp; it had nothing to do with the "thickly settled" signs.

Probably why the cop didn't show up.  He knew he would lose anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on June 15, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2017, 02:06:31 PMAdvisory speeds seem to be enforceable in Massachusetts. (My mom got one, but it was thrown out because the policeman didn't show up to court.) Are there any other states where this is the case?

EDIT: It was an exit ramp; it had nothing to do with the "thickly settled" signs.
Actually, back when the Mass Pike had Fast-Lane; the Turnpike Authority used the square, yellow speed advisory panels (MUTCD W13-1P sign reading 15 M.P.H.) for their F-L toll booths, a motorist received a speeding ticket (I forget what speed he was clocked at doing).  However, since he just happened to be a sign contractor and knew MUTCD by heart; he challenged the ticket on the grounds that the traffic control device used wasn't the correct one.  The judge dismissed the ticket and the Turnpike Authority quickly replaced all the speed advisory signs with the proper MUTCD R2-1 SPEED LIMIT 15 signs.

However, some local roads in the Bay State (mostly DCR (formerly MDC) -maintained ones) to this day still use W13-1P signs for speed limits rather than R2-1 signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on June 15, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 15, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2017, 02:06:31 PMAdvisory speeds seem to be enforceable in Massachusetts. (My mom got one, but it was thrown out because the policeman didn't show up to court.) Are there any other states where this is the case?

EDIT: It was an exit ramp; it had nothing to do with the "thickly settled" signs.
Actually, back when the Mass Pike had Fast-Lane; the Turnpike Authority used the square, yellow speed advisory panels (MUTCD W13-1P sign reading 15 M.P.H.) for their F-L toll booths, a motorist received a speeding ticket (I forget what speed he was clocked at doing).  However, since he just happened to be a sign contractor and knew MUTCD by heart; he challenged the ticket on the grounds that the traffic control device used wasn't the correct one.  The judge dismissed the ticket and the Turnpike Authority quickly replaced all the speed advisory signs with the proper MUTCD R2-1 SPEED LIMIT 15 signs.

However, some local roads in the Bay State (mostly DCR (formerly MDC) -maintained ones) to this day still use W13-1P signs for speed limits rather than R2-1 signs.

In Princeton, MA, every town road has the W13-1P speed limit signs. They've even replaced them in recent years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 15, 2017, 05:40:15 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 15, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2017, 02:06:31 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

The wrong sign color? Most judges wouldn't even know or understand the differences in the color. They would only know that the sign said SPEED LIMIT xx on it, and that you were doing nn speed over that number. What would make a difference, though, is if that speed limit that was posted is not the right speed limit for the area in question (meaning not officially set by the governmental body responsible for setting the limit for that particular road).

We had a situation in my home county when I was much younger where a young state police officer was writing speeding tickets for people exceeding an advisory speed. The speed limit was 55 mph, but the advisory speed in this area (a "Congested Area" condition) was 35 mph. Those tickets got thrown out, and not because the speed being exceeded was in a yellow sign instead of a white sign.

Advisory speeds seem to be enforceable in Massachusetts. (My mom got one, but it was thrown out because the policeman didn't show up to court.) Are there any other states where this is the case?

EDIT: It was an exit ramp; it had nothing to do with the "thickly settled" signs.

Probably why the cop didn't show up.  He knew he would lose anyway.

Eh.  Could be a straightforward cost-benefit analysis.  In the half a day he'd spend in court fighting this one, he could write a hundred new tickets and probably at least 80 of the heinous criminals would just pay the fine without going to court.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 15, 2017, 07:21:54 PM
My understanding is that MassDOT dumped the curve advisory speed limits of surface roads after a judge ruled they weren't enforceable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on June 15, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 15, 2017, 07:21:54 PM
My understanding is that MassDOT dumped the curve advisory speed limits of surface roads after a judge ruled they weren't enforceable.

They generally aren't enforced anyway. And this has been statewide policy for quite some time, as rural non-state roads have speed limit signs in the current pattern that are likely 20-30+ years old.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 15, 2017, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 15, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 15, 2017, 07:21:54 PM
My understanding is that MassDOT dumped the curve advisory speed limits of surface roads after a judge ruled they weren't enforceable.

They generally aren't enforced anyway. And this has been statewide policy for quite some time, as rural non-state roads have speed limit signs in the current pattern that are likely 20-30+ years old.

I could be wrong, but I don't think advisory speed limits are enforceable. (And most are too low, anyway...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on June 15, 2017, 11:15:40 PM
Generally, at least in my state, the only way once could be charged with going faster than the advisory speed woud be to get into a wreck (Failure to reduce speed to avoid a collision).

I guess if an officer wanted to be a real pisser, he could cite one for reckless driving for:

"Any person who drives any vehicle upon a highway or any public vehicular area without due caution and circumspection and at a speed or in a manner so as to endanger or be likely to endanger any person or property shall be guilty of reckless driving." [NCGS 20-140(b)]

I would think that getting a conviction on this one would be a real stretch though, if the only element was exceeding the advisory speed. Now exceeding the advisory AND the actual posted speed limit (so lets say 65 mph zone and the curve is advised at 35 mph) yeah I could definitely see that one sticking though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 16, 2017, 01:49:06 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 14, 2017, 11:33:34 PM
jakeroot/cl94:

That's a completely different situation though. If a law enforcement officer is charging someone with a crime/infraction by citation it is expected that all of his/her I's are dotted and T's are crossed. If I write you a ticket I am swearing that I observed you breaking the law in some sort or fasion. If I spell your name wrong, have I truly charged the right person with that crime/infraction? If I write down the wrong vehicle on the ticket, did I really see YOU do what ever it is that I'm swearing that I saw you do? If I clock you a Mustang doing 61 in a 45 and write down that it was a Camaro on the ticket, I have left a reasonable doubt that you were the one who commited the crime and a judge will toss it pretty much every time.

My original point was that, unless everything adds up perfectly, it's easy to get a ticket tossed. The fact is that a yellow sign with the word "speed limit" on it, is not a speed limit sign. I'm not sure what the default speed limit is for County Routes in Florida, but if it's anything more than 40, police have no right to enforce that "speed limit", because that "speed limit" sign isn't legally enforceable. The only legally enforceable speed limit signs are MUTCD-compliant speed limit signs (white signs with black text, black signs with white text (night limits)), or those that are set legislatively but not posted (i.e. default limits).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 17, 2017, 12:57:48 AM
I believe this would qualify for "the ugly":
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4263/35354912185_82c3cf90bd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VScaDt)2 Left Lane Closed 1500 ft/Right Lane Ends (https://flic.kr/p/VScaDt) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 20, 2017, 09:27:22 PM
I like this one where a county route in NJ gets primary mention over the state route it shares pavement with.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5340666,-74.2974009,3a,75y,180h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqxMjbDVrWvWBczlILxW-KQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on June 22, 2017, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 17, 2017, 12:57:48 AM
I believe this would qualify for "the ugly":
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4263/35354912185_82c3cf90bd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VScaDt)2 Left Lane Closed 1500 ft/Right Lane Ends (https://flic.kr/p/VScaDt) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
What does that 2 mean?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 22, 2017, 01:40:16 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 22, 2017, 01:38:20 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 17, 2017, 12:57:48 AM
I believe this would qualify for "the ugly":
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4263/35354912185_82c3cf90bd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VScaDt)2 Left Lane Closed 1500 ft/Right Lane Ends (https://flic.kr/p/VScaDt) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
What does that 2 mean?

The two left lanes are being closed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 03:50:01 PM
I've seen similar subject/verb errors before (usually the result of patching). Here's one at the start of WA-512 south of Seattle (just after exiting WA-167):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fyeqdaah.png&hash=6ba12779f02e84925b96f4089249415ecba26250)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
Lately, I've noticed some rather odd signing patterns by WSDOT, where "EXIT" signs are used to denote almost every slip ramp, even if it's a freeway entrance. Behold...

SR-202 @ SR-520, Redmond: https://goo.gl/ipozSb (image 1)

15 St SW @ SR-18, Auburn: https://goo.gl/izs7WD (image 2) (note lack of FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign despite it being an entrance -- luckily it gets an EXIT sign...sigh)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyFxZ6Ww.png&hash=e77969ad00c245eb3001ea7773ab070f0b298c5c)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFToRq2u.png&hash=b355187a9926cd1f8385b6b6f9c7d5666339dd98)



EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F54luIUT.png&hash=35d7afc099ef89c52e848673fec4b037595f479a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on June 22, 2017, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

(snip)
What I can make out is that there was once a entrance ramp (most likely) for some sort of ranch road. You can see some pavement behind the jersey barrier and a small road (about 1/2 lane wide) next to I-82 while it crosses the river, and then splits off at the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. If you were on that road for some reason, that would be a freeway entrance to I-82, and you would see that strange cloud sign if you continued on the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 22, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
Originally, when the older bridge over the river was in place (today's I-82 SB) and the road used to connect directly to Engineers Rd to Plymouth.

I-82 was built south to this location but there was no freeway interchange - it was an at-grade intersection because the newer bridge had not been built yet.  The freeway entrance sign is where the freeway left Engineers Rd.

See the 1987 topo map at Historic Aerials.  They had no pictures around this timeframe...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on June 22, 2017, 10:07:43 PM
Speaking of odd exit signs, here's one from the beginning of I-172 in Illinois:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTGT81mE.jpg&hash=ba7a917ca9ea6f7cfc1c99b513a5c65def8cc45e)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JJBers on June 22, 2017, 11:10:54 PM
Nice change is quality between markers.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4232/35473615965_cedb6524f0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W3Fy9n)
CC 2.0 JJBers (Me)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 11:48:10 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
Originally, when the older bridge over the river was in place (today's I-82 SB) and the road used to connect directly to Engineers Rd to Plymouth.

I-82 was built south to this location but there was no freeway interchange - it was an at-grade intersection because the newer bridge had not been built yet.  The freeway entrance sign is where the freeway left Engineers Rd.

See the 1987 topo map at Historic Aerials.  They had no pictures around this timeframe...

Wow, thanks for the explanation Mikey! You really know your stuff.

Seems odd that they never bothered to rip out the old sign. Kind of glad they didn't, though. Cool bit of history.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on June 23, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM

EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F54luIUT.png&hash=35d7afc099ef89c52e848673fec4b037595f479a)

What's also interesting about that location is that to the right of the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign, there is a warning sign for a steep downhill grade for the bike path, with a bicycle depicted on it.  Never seen that before.  It's easier seen on GSV itself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 23, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: chays on June 23, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM

EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

http://i.imgur.com/54luIUT.png

What's also interesting about that location is that to the right of the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign, there is a warning sign for a steep downhill grade for the bike path, with a bicycle depicted on it.  Never seen that before.  It's easier seen on GSV itself.

WSDOT has more than a one odd symbol sign that doesn't appear anywhere else. This one on 5, south of Bellingham, comes to mind: https://goo.gl/xJQcmy
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 23, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 23, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: chays on June 23, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM

EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

http://i.imgur.com/54luIUT.png

What's also interesting about that location is that to the right of the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign, there is a warning sign for a steep downhill grade for the bike path, with a bicycle depicted on it.  Never seen that before.  It's easier seen on GSV itself.

WSDOT has more than a one odd symbol sign that doesn't appear anywhere else. This one on 5, south of Bellingham, comes to mind: https://goo.gl/xJQcmy

What does that even mean? you have to pull a trailer down the hill for the next 1.5 miles?

The bike sign reminds me of this sign in Salt Lake City (https://goo.gl/maps/1ZtWCz9XVAJ2) which alerts bikers to the railroad crossing ahead. I haven't seen this sign anywhere else.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 23, 2017, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on June 23, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 23, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: chays on June 23, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM

EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

http://i.imgur.com/54luIUT.png

What's also interesting about that location is that to the right of the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign, there is a warning sign for a steep downhill grade for the bike path, with a bicycle depicted on it.  Never seen that before.  It's easier seen on GSV itself.

WSDOT has more than a one odd symbol sign that doesn't appear anywhere else. This one on 5, south of Bellingham, comes to mind: https://goo.gl/xJQcmy

What does that even mean? you have to pull a trailer down the hill for the next 1.5 miles?

Who knows. We've discussed the sign at least once before, and I don't recall any conclusion ever being reached. It doesn't appear in any MUTCD that we could find.

Quote from: roadguy2 on June 23, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
The bike sign reminds me of this sign in Salt Lake City (https://goo.gl/maps/1ZtWCz9XVAJ2) which alerts bikers to the railroad crossing ahead. I haven't seen this sign anywhere else.

That's actually a really clever sign. I like it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 23, 2017, 02:10:24 PM
I believe the mystery warning with a car and a trailer is to alert of downhill S curves that could cause your trailer to swing wide behind you...

Here is a bicycle hill warning sign in the Cades Cove area of Smoky Mtn Nat'l Park - https://goo.gl/maps/km4tby17uq12

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: luokou on June 23, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on June 23, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
The bike sign reminds me of this sign in Salt Lake City (https://goo.gl/maps/1ZtWCz9XVAJ2) which alerts bikers to the railroad crossing ahead. I haven't seen this sign anywhere else.

Signs like this one (and a variant on the Morrison Bridge (https://goo.gl/maps/qTjzofnK8Km)) are very common in Portland, especially along both the MAX and Streetcar lines downtown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 26, 2017, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on June 22, 2017, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

(snip)
What I can make out is that there was once a entrance ramp (most likely) for some sort of ranch road. You can see some pavement behind the jersey barrier and a small road (about 1/2 lane wide) next to I-82 while it crosses the river, and then splits off at the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. If you were on that road for some reason, that would be a freeway entrance to I-82, and you would see that strange cloud sign if you continued on the road.

Backed out to Google Maps to see some context on this.

WHY is there a Port Of Entry in Oregon?  Presumably, at least if you were on I-82, you'd have had to have taken care of that upon crossing into Washington State from BC.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 26, 2017, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 26, 2017, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on June 22, 2017, 09:00:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
EDIT...related to above:

Here's a FREEWAY ENTRANCE sign in a middle of nowhere (sort of). After crossing into Washington on I-82 from Oregon, you get this sign. Nevermind that you've been on I-82 for about ten miles by this point. I cannot figure out, for the life of me, what the point of this sign is.

https://goo.gl/e4jJnV

(snip)
What I can make out is that there was once a entrance ramp (most likely) for some sort of ranch road. You can see some pavement behind the jersey barrier and a small road (about 1/2 lane wide) next to I-82 while it crosses the river, and then splits off at the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign. If you were on that road for some reason, that would be a freeway entrance to I-82, and you would see that strange cloud sign if you continued on the road.

Backed out to Google Maps to see some context on this.

WHY is there a Port Of Entry in Oregon?  Presumably, at least if you were on I-82, you'd have had to have taken care of that upon crossing into Washington State from BC.  Am I missing something?

I don't know the exact details, but they're ODOT-run weight stations. Oregon has slightly different rules for trucks, if I recall correctly. Passenger vehicles don't need to stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on June 26, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 26, 2017, 02:21:52 PM



WHY is there a Port Of Entry in Oregon?  Presumably, at least if you were on I-82, you'd have had to have taken care of that upon crossing into Washington State from BC.  Am I missing something?

Strictly a terminology thing.  Wyoming has them too (here is I-80 near Evanston -https://goo.gl/maps/mTqcoLJzxUL2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 26, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 26, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 26, 2017, 02:21:52 PM



WHY is there a Port Of Entry in Oregon?  Presumably, at least if you were on I-82, you'd have had to have taken care of that upon crossing into Washington State from BC.  Am I missing something?

Strictly a terminology thing.  Wyoming has them too (here is I-80 near Evanston -https://goo.gl/maps/mTqcoLJzxUL2)

They have a pair of them out on I-70 in Mesa County, CO near the UT border at Exit 15/Loma.  Originally it was the Colorado AND Utah Point of Entry (with Utah running the westbound station???).  But about 3-4 years ago CDOT covered up all mention of Utah on all the BGSs in both directions.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 27, 2017, 10:02:58 AM
The city of Fairbank, Iowa has its annual Fireworks Days around the Fourth of July, and the festival is held on Main St (IA-281) in town (https://i.imgur.com/J8TY1jh.jpg). So the city made up these detour signs posted on the next street over for those times.

(https://i.imgur.com/IMXbiBl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 27, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.

It is the default style for supplemental guide signs in Arizona, which have destinations and external exit tabs with no distance- or exit-related messages in the main sign panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 27, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 27, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.

It is the default style for supplemental guide signs in Arizona, which have destinations and external exit tabs with no distance- or exit-related messages in the main sign panel.

I've never been a fan of the normal, in-line exit number placement for supplemental guide signs. That Florida sign and the Arizona signs make much more sense. They are, after all, still guide signs, and people generally look to the top of a sign for the exit number, not the bottom.

If in-line exit numbers are to be used, they should make them a different color to stand out. Or even box them. Or both!...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEbMQTzq.jpg&hash=9a38a1ac765250e9c18d2ef1887e6b74914bf75e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 27, 2017, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 27, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.

It is the default style for supplemental guide signs in Arizona, which have destinations and external exit tabs with no distance- or exit-related messages in the main sign panel.

I've never been a fan of the normal, in-line exit number placement for supplemental guide signs. That Florida sign and the Arizona signs make much more sense. They are, after all, still guide signs, and people generally look to the top of a sign for the exit number, not the bottom.

I disagree. I think there's two different contexts here.

On the advance exit signs, the exit tab acts as kind of a header: "Exit 104: SH-74, Goldsby, Washington...1 mile." On the supplemental signs, it reads more as "Okla. Dept. of Agriculture...(use) Exit 104". In other words, the last line reads as providing information on where/how to access the destination. "Exit 104 is this..." as opposed to "This is a destination...this is how you reach it".

Of course, Oklahoma just uses "Next Right" for absolutely everything, so it's a moot point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 29, 2017, 02:52:46 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 27, 2017, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 27, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.

It is the default style for supplemental guide signs in Arizona, which have destinations and external exit tabs with no distance- or exit-related messages in the main sign panel.

I've never been a fan of the normal, in-line exit number placement for supplemental guide signs. That Florida sign and the Arizona signs make much more sense. They are, after all, still guide signs, and people generally look to the top of a sign for the exit number, not the bottom.

I disagree. I think there's two different contexts here.

On the advance exit signs, the exit tab acts as kind of a header: "Exit 104: SH-74, Goldsby, Washington...1 mile." On the supplemental signs, it reads more as "Okla. Dept. of Agriculture...(use) Exit 104". In other words, the last line reads as providing information on where/how to access the destination. "Exit 104 is this..." as opposed to "This is a destination...this is how you reach it".

Of course, Oklahoma just uses "Next Right" for absolutely everything, so it's a moot point.

Perhaps, yes. But realistically, do we find the Florida sign confusing, just because the exit number is on top? I still understand the sign just fine. It's just in the reverse order compared to what we might otherwise expect. IMO, it makes more sense to put the exit number on top, regardless of the context. Just for consistency. That's all.

Similar moot point: Washington barely numbers any of their non interstates, so I rarely ever utilise exit numbers on a day-to-day basis (if at all). I always tell people to exit at "Hwy XX" or "XX st", etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 29, 2017, 02:55:47 AM
Bellevue Washington: https://goo.gl/nwBvbD

I think I've seen another example of this sign somewhere else (either on this forum, or in real life). Can't say I'm a fan, though.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCst8xCB.png&hash=97168342ea7c2f522ecf25836557385b913e309c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 29, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 29, 2017, 02:52:46 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 27, 2017, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 27, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.

It is the default style for supplemental guide signs in Arizona, which have destinations and external exit tabs with no distance- or exit-related messages in the main sign panel.

I've never been a fan of the normal, in-line exit number placement for supplemental guide signs. That Florida sign and the Arizona signs make much more sense. They are, after all, still guide signs, and people generally look to the top of a sign for the exit number, not the bottom.

I disagree. I think there's two different contexts here.

On the advance exit signs, the exit tab acts as kind of a header: "Exit 104: SH-74, Goldsby, Washington...1 mile." On the supplemental signs, it reads more as "Okla. Dept. of Agriculture...(use) Exit 104". In other words, the last line reads as providing information on where/how to access the destination. "Exit 104 is this..." as opposed to "This is a destination...this is how you reach it".

Of course, Oklahoma just uses "Next Right" for absolutely everything, so it's a moot point.

Perhaps, yes. But realistically, do we find the Florida sign confusing, just because the exit number is on top? I still understand the sign just fine. It's just in the reverse order compared to what we might otherwise expect. IMO, it makes more sense to put the exit number on top, regardless of the context. Just for consistency. That's all.

I wouldn't call it confusing, but as I'm used to the method described in my post (which I'll call the Kansas method, since that's the closest state that uses it), were I to come across a Florida-method sign, there would be a moment of double-take where I'm like "Okay, so Plant City Stadium...wait, what about it? Where am I supposed to–oh, okay, there's an exit tab at the top, so this is exit 22–hang on, I thought exit 22 was for Park Road, did I misinterpret that and 22 isn't the exit for Park Road, it's the exit for Plant City Stadium? Oh, wait, there's no mileage at the bottom, so this is a supplemental sign...it's both."

I feel the Kansas method is clearer. But it's definitely a personal preference thing. After I got used to driving in Florida, I'd probably adapt.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 29, 2017, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 29, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 29, 2017, 02:52:46 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 27, 2017, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2017, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 27, 2017, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/35372336571/

This one here has to be somewhat unique, but appears every so often in FL as well as a few other states using the exit number tab not only to denote its exit, but is the directional guide too as the main body of the sign lacks information of where to go such as "Next Right" or "Exit 22" or even "Next Exit" as Virginia used to do that.

Anyway I find it very interesting that this supplemental sign is made the way it is.

It is the default style for supplemental guide signs in Arizona, which have destinations and external exit tabs with no distance- or exit-related messages in the main sign panel.

I've never been a fan of the normal, in-line exit number placement for supplemental guide signs. That Florida sign and the Arizona signs make much more sense. They are, after all, still guide signs, and people generally look to the top of a sign for the exit number, not the bottom.

I disagree. I think there's two different contexts here.

On the advance exit signs, the exit tab acts as kind of a header: "Exit 104: SH-74, Goldsby, Washington...1 mile." On the supplemental signs, it reads more as "Okla. Dept. of Agriculture...(use) Exit 104". In other words, the last line reads as providing information on where/how to access the destination. "Exit 104 is this..." as opposed to "This is a destination...this is how you reach it".

Of course, Oklahoma just uses "Next Right" for absolutely everything, so it's a moot point.

Perhaps, yes. But realistically, do we find the Florida sign confusing, just because the exit number is on top? I still understand the sign just fine. It's just in the reverse order compared to what we might otherwise expect. IMO, it makes more sense to put the exit number on top, regardless of the context. Just for consistency. That's all.

I wouldn't call it confusing, but as I'm used to the method described in my post (which I'll call the Kansas method, since that's the closest state that uses it), were I to come across a Florida-method sign, there would be a moment of double-take where I'm like "Okay, so Plant City Stadium...wait, what about it? Where am I supposed to–oh, okay, there's an exit tab at the top, so this is exit 22–hang on, I thought exit 22 was for Park Road, did I misinterpret that and 22 isn't the exit for Park Road, it's the exit for Plant City Stadium? Oh, wait, there's no mileage at the bottom, so this is a supplemental sign...it's both."

I feel the Kansas method is clearer. But it's definitely a personal preference thing. After I got used to driving in Florida, I'd probably adapt.

Oh, I see where you're going. Your issue is that exits have, more or less, "official" destinations (Hwy XX, XX Blvd, city name), and supplemental guide signs should not be designed in a similar fashion, because it might confuse drivers who were looking for those official destinations. I'll give you that.

Here's an idea. Modify the exit tab so that it's clear what the destinations below are for. Replace "ATTRACTIONS" with "GAS" or "FOOD", as necessary:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkS0qotu.png&hash=b58935450fcb7c443db1f712f3813f3ff163d904)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 29, 2017, 03:07:13 PM
Right, I think that's a valid way of designing it. So long as there's some sort of cue that it is a supplemental sign and not part of the main series of destination signs.

The last time I got "lost" was in 2007, because of a series of signs in DC that changed the "official" destination legend from panel to panel. DC-295 just spontaneously vanished and was replaced by "Pennsylvania Avenue" on later panels. So, lacking confidence in whether that was the exit I wanted, I ended up in Anacostia instead. Whoops. (Such destination legend rotation between panels is explicitly forbidden in the MUTCD, but DDOT is pretty weird in a lot of ways. "US Senate" and "US House" are apparently different destinations, despite being technically housed in the same building, etc.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 29, 2017, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 29, 2017, 03:07:13 PM
Right, I think that's a valid way of designing it. So long as there's some sort of cue that it is a supplemental sign and not part of the main series of destination signs.

The last time I got "lost" was in 2007, because of a series of signs in DC that changed the "official" destination legend from panel to panel. DC-295 just spontaneously vanished and was replaced by "Pennsylvania Avenue" on later panels. So, lacking confidence in whether that was the exit I wanted, I ended up in Anacostia instead. Whoops. (Such destination legend rotation between panels is explicitly forbidden in the MUTCD, but DDOT is pretty weird in a lot of ways. "US Senate" and "US House" are apparently different destinations, despite being technically housed in the same building, etc.)

But they're not the same building.  The Senate office buildings are NE of the Capitol, the House buildings are south of it.
Those are where the work gets done (such as it does).  The Capitol Building is for floor votes and tourists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 29, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
Quote from: kkt on June 29, 2017, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 29, 2017, 03:07:13 PM
Right, I think that's a valid way of designing it. So long as there's some sort of cue that it is a supplemental sign and not part of the main series of destination signs.

The last time I got "lost" was in 2007, because of a series of signs in DC that changed the "official" destination legend from panel to panel. DC-295 just spontaneously vanished and was replaced by "Pennsylvania Avenue" on later panels. So, lacking confidence in whether that was the exit I wanted, I ended up in Anacostia instead. Whoops. (Such destination legend rotation between panels is explicitly forbidden in the MUTCD, but DDOT is pretty weird in a lot of ways. "US Senate" and "US House" are apparently different destinations, despite being technically housed in the same building, etc.)

But they're not the same building.  The Senate office buildings are NE of the Capitol, the House buildings are south of it.
Those are where the work gets done (such as it does).  The Capitol Building is for floor votes and tourists.


If you're going to the Dirksen/Rayburn/whatever building, you know what you're doing enough that you probably don't need a guide sign to get there.......

For most of the public if they want to see the "House" or the "Senate", they're looking for that building on the back of the $50 bill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 30, 2017, 11:24:40 AM
I thought it was "US Senate" and "The House" (a lack of parallelism that really stuck out to me when I lived and worked in the metro DC area), and that those exits off I-395 led to parking garages which only members of Congress and their staffers could use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on June 30, 2017, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 30, 2017, 11:24:40 AM
I thought it was "US Senate" and "The House" (a lack of parallelism that really stuck out to me when I lived and worked in the metro DC area), and that those exits off I-395 led to parking garages which only members of Congress and their staffers could use.

Most state governments also have a State Senate, but the population-based body is called something different:  Maryland House of Delegates, New York State Assembly, et. al.  So "US Senate" disambiguates from state senates, but The House is just The House.

(Although, if I see the words "Maryland House," I think of the rest stop on I-95.  Usually we say "House of Delegates.")
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on July 01, 2017, 03:16:54 PM
Interesting Texas and incorrect Oklahoma state highway detour signage:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.68174,-99.9134353,3a,25.7y,92.28h,90.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soPDgHKFFTBJ7hQDcx8SN1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.68174,-99.9134353,3a,25.7y,92.28h,90.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soPDgHKFFTBJ7hQDcx8SN1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Get a load of this craziness.

This photo is taken facing northbound on I-74 in Moline, IL, at IL-5.  The NB-to-EB ramp is closed, and this picture shows the detour established by IDOT.  They want northbound cars to use three leaves of the cloverleaf to reach the eastbound lanes of IL-5!  It works, but just....why??  And do they really expect the average non-roadgeek motorist to understand this upon their first glance at this sign?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/35272989090_eda639b6f5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj)
IMG_9217 (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on July 01, 2017, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Get a load of this craziness.

This photo is taken facing northbound on I-74 in Moline, IL, at IL-5.  The NB-to-EB ramp is closed, and this picture shows the detour established by IDOT.  They want northbound cars to use three leaves of the cloverleaf to reach the eastbound lanes of IL-5!  It works, but just....why??  And do they really expect the average non-roadgeek motorist to understand this upon their first glance at this sign?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/35272989090_eda639b6f5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj)
IMG_9217 (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
At first glance, allI saw were lines.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 02, 2017, 12:04:59 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 01, 2017, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Get a load of this craziness.

This photo is taken facing northbound on I-74 in Moline, IL, at IL-5.  The NB-to-EB ramp is closed, and this picture shows the detour established by IDOT.  They want northbound cars to use three leaves of the cloverleaf to reach the eastbound lanes of IL-5!  It works, but just....why??  And do they really expect the average non-roadgeek motorist to understand this upon their first glance at this sign?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/35272989090_eda639b6f5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj)
IMG_9217 (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
At first glance, allI saw were lines.

It looks like the Apple command symbol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 02, 2017, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
This photo is taken facing northbound on I-74 in Moline, IL, at IL-5.  The NB-to-EB ramp is closed, and this picture shows the detour established by IDOT.  They want northbound cars to use three leaves of the cloverleaf to reach the eastbound lanes of IL-5!  It works, but just....why??  And do they really expect the average non-roadgeek motorist to understand this upon their first glance at this sign?

The diagram is fine, but there better be loads of "DETOUR ->" signs. There's no way someone could figure everything out at a quick glance. Even roadgeeks (judging by the above comments) might be a bit flustered (at least at first).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 02, 2017, 11:07:38 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 02, 2017, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
This photo is taken facing northbound on I-74 in Moline, IL, at IL-5.  The NB-to-EB ramp is closed, and this picture shows the detour established by IDOT.  They want northbound cars to use three leaves of the cloverleaf to reach the eastbound lanes of IL-5!  It works, but just....why??  And do they really expect the average non-roadgeek motorist to understand this upon their first glance at this sign?

The diagram is fine, but there better be loads of "DETOUR ->" signs. There's no way someone could figure everything out at a quick glance. Even roadgeeks (judging by the above comments) might be a bit flustered (at least at first).

It's very hard to decipher a sign like that at highway speeds.  But, I assume that using 3 loops would be the most efficient detour, and yes, I beleive that other state that do a similar detour will have "DETOUR" signs throughout the loops to make it easier.  Technically, the detour signs would only be needed on the first 2 loops with signs saying "DETOUR IL-5 EAST".  The third loop is permanently signed for IL-5 East.

This is a freeway version of using 3 lefts to make a right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 02, 2017, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 02, 2017, 11:07:38 AM
This is a freeway version of using 3 lefts to make a right.
...But you still can't make 2 wrongs. :bigass: :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jet380 on July 02, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 02, 2017, 11:07:38 AM

This is a freeway version of using 3 lefts to make a right.

Or more technically, using 9 rights to make a right! I think there'd be some dizzy drivers out there  :spin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 02, 2017, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on July 02, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 02, 2017, 11:07:38 AM

This is a freeway version of using 3 lefts to make a right.

Or more technically, using 9 rights to make a right! I think there'd be some dizzy drivers out there  :spin:

Funny, we were just discussing this in another thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20529.50).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 03, 2017, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 02, 2017, 09:00:40 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on July 02, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 02, 2017, 11:07:38 AM

This is a freeway version of using 3 lefts to make a right.

Or more technically, using 9 rights to make a right! I think there'd be some dizzy drivers out there  :spin:

Funny, we were just discussing this in another thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20529.50).

So...much metaquoting...can't make sense...of anything...

As an aside, here's something I learned about Iowa that I love.  They have signs directing you to all the access points along different rivers for you to go boating.  They're very active about posting signage for all of them, and I think that rocks.  Here's an example in Keosaqua, Iowa.

It's a windshield photo, so the contrast is less than stellar.  The sign I'm referring to is at the right side of the frame.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4236/35531130831_4d873b7cc1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W8LkiZ)
IA-001VKeosaqua (https://flic.kr/p/W8LkiZ) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on July 04, 2017, 12:32:14 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Get a load of this craziness.

This photo is taken facing northbound on I-74 in Moline, IL, at IL-5.  The NB-to-EB ramp is closed, and this picture shows the detour established by IDOT.  They want northbound cars to use three leaves of the cloverleaf to reach the eastbound lanes of IL-5!  It works, but just....why??  And do they really expect the average non-roadgeek motorist to understand this upon their first glance at this sign?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4141/35272989090_eda639b6f5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj)
IMG_9217 (https://flic.kr/p/VJXhLj) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

A similar detour has been in effect this construction season near Michigan City, IN. The ramp from EB I-94 leading to EB US 20 and SB US 35 is closed for reconstruction and traffic is detoured around 3 loops. No diagram sign like this one was erected there. They just have the usual detour signs at each ramp. In addition, both highways have lane restrictions, adding to the confusion. It's a heavily-traveled route, especially by trucks. I've seen a lot of confused drivers when I've driven through there. I've not seen any accidents, but I suspect there've been more than a few.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on July 04, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
The small Quebec village of St-Justin has this little number at the corner of Duchesnay and Guerin, featuring a tab indicating the stop is actually 19m (62' 4") away:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2517689,-73.0859997,3a,15y,349.61h,86.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4vh5ACao6946AMXlkT7fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2517689,-73.0859997,3a,15y,349.61h,86.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4vh5ACao6946AMXlkT7fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 04, 2017, 11:22:17 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on July 04, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
The small Quebec village of St-Justin has this little number at the corner of Duchesnay and Guerin, featuring a tab indicating the stop is actually 19m (62' 4") away:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2517689,-73.0859997,3a,15y,349.61h,86.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4vh5ACao6946AMXlkT7fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2517689,-73.0859997,3a,15y,349.61h,86.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4vh5ACao6946AMXlkT7fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

What was wrong with putting the stop sign at the actual intersection?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2017, 01:08:30 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 04, 2017, 11:22:17 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on July 04, 2017, 04:35:28 PM
The small Quebec village of St-Justin has this little number at the corner of Duchesnay and Guerin, featuring a tab indicating the stop is actually 19m (62' 4") away:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2517689,-73.0859997,3a,15y,349.61h,86.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4vh5ACao6946AMXlkT7fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.2517689,-73.0859997,3a,15y,349.61h,86.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4vh5ACao6946AMXlkT7fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

What was wrong with putting the stop sign at the actual intersection?

Doesn't look like there was any room for one. Asphalt from left sidewalk all the way to the building on the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 05, 2017, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 03, 2017, 08:11:22 PMHere's an example in Keosaqua, Iowa.

It's a windshield photo, so the contrast is less than stellar.  The sign I'm referring to is at the right side of the frame.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4236/35531130831_4d873b7cc1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/W8LkiZ)
IA-001VKeosaqua (https://flic.kr/p/W8LkiZ) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
That Sinclair station sign on the left jumped out at me more than anything.  I didn't think that Sinclair, as a brand, still existed in the U.S.  All the ones in eastern Massachusetts became BPs and then later Gibbs during the 70s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 05, 2017, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 05, 2017, 09:57:29 AM
That Sinclair station sign on the left jumped out at me more than anything.  I didn't think that Sinclair, as a brand, still existed in the U.S.  All the ones in eastern Massachusetts became BPs and then later Gibbs during the 70s.

Sinclair stations are still around. According to their website locator map, locations appear to be concentrated west of the Mississippi River excluding southern states.

According to the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Oil_Corporation), ARCO purchased Sinclair in 1969 but had to divest of certain assets, so they sold the Sinclair's east coast operations to BP.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on July 05, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
Quote from: tckma on June 30, 2017, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 30, 2017, 11:24:40 AM
I thought it was "US Senate" and "The House" (a lack of parallelism that really stuck out to me when I lived and worked in the metro DC area), and that those exits off I-395 led to parking garages which only members of Congress and their staffers could use.

Most state governments also have a State Senate, but the population-based body is called something different:  Maryland House of Delegates, New York State Assembly, et. al.  So "US Senate" disambiguates from state senates, but The House is just The House.

(Although, if I see the words "Maryland House," I think of the rest stop on I-95.  Usually we say "House of Delegates.")

Washington State's lower chamber is called the House of Representatives.  But I don't think too many drivers on I-395 are lost looking for Olympia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on July 05, 2017, 08:14:43 PM
Just outside Duluth today. Presumably erected by the county, but still odd:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOrmdwOW.jpg&hash=3f5d6714272cd30c110e0f7891a97972ad1617f7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 06, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 05, 2017, 08:14:43 PM
Just outside Duluth today. Presumably erected by the county, but still odd:

Pine and Carlton counties both have put up old US-61 markers. I don't remember seeing any in Chisago County.

(https://i.imgur.com/56MIj2X.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 06, 2017, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 06, 2017, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 05, 2017, 08:14:43 PM
Just outside Duluth today. Presumably erected by the county, but still odd:

Pine and Carlton counties both have put up old US-61 markers. I don't remember seeing any in Chisago County.

(https://i.imgur.com/56MIj2X.jpg)

That was one of the US Highway decommissionings that made less sense. Even with the nonstandard design and huge numerals, it's still cool that it's being signed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 15, 2017, 08:53:24 AM
Don't know if anyone shared this one before.  Found a few of these along the frontage road to Washington Ave Extension in the Albany Area (can't remember if it's Albany, Guilderland, Colonie or whatever other town comes into the mix before it hits New Karner).  I suppose they wanted to be extra clear in case "No Parking Any Time" was taken to mean a lifetime ban everywhere.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4241/35765526682_1e071d8937_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WutF2L)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 17, 2017, 08:42:44 PM
On US 1 (Brook Rd) in Henrico County, VA just north of Richmond

https://goo.gl/maps/25SvPspmX6L2

Not sure but I believe Henrico County did this instead of VDOT
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 19, 2017, 03:18:57 PM
This sign assembly in Kalispell, MT. (https://goo.gl/maps/oAFAZBBx8qB2) This could get confusing pretty fast.
The blurred part of the red sign reads "MON-WED-FRI".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 20, 2017, 11:01:34 PM
This could go in many threads, but I decided it deserves to be in one with "ugly" in the title.  Even without the US 144/Virginia 144 mixup, it's ugly.  Taken in Colonial Heights, Virginia.  July 8, 2017.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20170708%2Fus1us144us301.jpg&hash=5c3625ddb9f91eee3d9528df12a7e2bb03431a9c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 20, 2017, 11:04:17 PM
How big are interstate reassurance shields supposed to be? This one on the 405 in Washington (near Renton) seemed huge in person:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIIR5zDX.jpg&hash=06f98bd83b93dac6f55d35d2619fa286688ebc93)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 20, 2017, 11:13:23 PM
^^ ON the interstate itself, 36"x36" (1 or 2 digit), 45"x36" (3 digits)
https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2e.htm#table2E01
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 20, 2017, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 20, 2017, 11:13:23 PM
^^ ON the interstate itself, 36"x36" (1 or 2 digit), 45"x36" (3 digits)
https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2e.htm#table2E01

Thanks. I'll have to go back with some measuring tape. It seemed bigger than that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2017, 11:35:41 PM
Late update; The yellow speed limit signs on Sumter CR 48 are gone. I was getting ready to snap a picture of the one going west of I-75 which has a 45 mph speed limit, when I found both signs were replaced with standard white ones that are smaller. FDOT Region 5 must have been reading this board.

:hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 04, 2017, 02:09:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 20, 2017, 11:04:17 PM
How big are interstate reassurance shields supposed to be? This one on the 405 in Washington (near Renton) seemed huge in person:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIIR5zDX.jpg&hash=06f98bd83b93dac6f55d35d2619fa286688ebc93)

I own a properly-sized 36x45" (I-35W) Interstate shield, and even it is huge. I estimate that that I-405 shield is probably about 48x60" (keeping proportions).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 04, 2017, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 20, 2017, 11:04:17 PM
How big are interstate reassurance shields supposed to be? This one on the 405 in Washington (near Renton) seemed huge in person:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIIR5zDX.jpg&hash=06f98bd83b93dac6f55d35d2619fa286688ebc93)
Well, the bigger the better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 04, 2017, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 04, 2017, 09:08:26 PM
the bigger the better.

(https://media.tenor.com/images/9867b1fa3ac337972f761e313a177609/tenor.gif)

Also, thank you for the wise, thought-out comment. I appreciate your words as usual. :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on August 04, 2017, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 20, 2017, 11:04:17 PM
How big are interstate reassurance shields supposed to be? This one on the 405 in Washington (near Renton) seemed huge in person:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIIR5zDX.jpg&hash=06f98bd83b93dac6f55d35d2619fa286688ebc93)

WSDOT is pretty unpredictable with the quality of Interstate shields. Sometimes they post great looking shields, and sometimes they are hideous. This one however, I think looks great. One of the best looking shields WSDOT has posted recently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 04, 2017, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on August 04, 2017, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 20, 2017, 11:04:17 PM
How big are interstate reassurance shields supposed to be? This one on the 405 in Washington (near Renton) seemed huge in person:

http://i.imgur.com/IIR5zDX.jpg

WSDOT is pretty unpredictable with the quality of Interstate shields. Sometimes they post great looking shields, and sometimes they are hideous. This one however, I think looks great. One of the best looking shields WSDOT has posted recently.

The 405 used to be awash with bubble shields. They finally seem to be going the way of the dodo (I haven't seen one installed for a while).

I'd like to see more Series D shields, but I'll take properly-shaped shields over Series D for the time being.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rickmastfan67 on August 05, 2017, 04:19:30 AM
Stanley Roberts with unique MPH signs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPymwxAtc0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on August 05, 2017, 10:36:19 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on August 05, 2017, 04:19:30 AM
Stanley Roberts with unique MPH signs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPymwxAtc0
Why is it 22 not 20 or 25?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rickmastfan67 on August 06, 2017, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on August 05, 2017, 10:36:19 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on August 05, 2017, 04:19:30 AM
Stanley Roberts with unique MPH signs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPymwxAtc0
Why is it 22 not 20 or 25?

Watch the video.......  All is explained.....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 06, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
These town welcome signs just went up in Berlin, CT (pronounced BER-lin here) in the past week. This one is on CT Route 71 South, just past the entrance of Willow Brook Park in neighboring New Britain. The bridge behind the sign goes over the so-called Willow Brook Connector (unsigned CT Route 571). There's also one on the southbound Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) a couple miles to the east.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZbXz7gh.jpg&hash=2bb29a035e5b4bc9c219e1ce382d294a421d46d8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on August 06, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
Interesting CR marker on ebay from Yoakum Co Tx:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Vintage-Real-Yoakum-County-TX-Road-Highway-Sign-3-E-Precinct-3-/222599943675?hash=item33d3fd95fb:g:kX4AAOSwzRlZf05n (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-Vintage-Real-Yoakum-County-TX-Road-Highway-Sign-3-E-Precinct-3-/222599943675?hash=item33d3fd95fb:g:kX4AAOSwzRlZf05n)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 07, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
This looks to me like a resident probably posted it, which is why I'm putting this here and not in the "erroneous" thread.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170807/f8f3918133b01178409d684570322b1f.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 07, 2017, 05:02:19 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 07, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
This looks to me like a resident probably posted it, which is why I'm putting this here and not in the "erroneous" thread.


It's possible the back of the "NO OUTLET" is a "STOP" sign, but given that those blue street name blades look very Fairfax County-esque (though it's been several years since I lived there, I seem to recall there being a Beulah St somewhere in that area), I doubt it was a state or county placed sign.  I could also be putting too much faith in the county governments there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 08, 2017, 06:51:38 AM
Quote from: tckma on August 07, 2017, 05:02:19 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 07, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
This looks to me like a resident probably posted it, which is why I'm putting this here and not in the "erroneous" thread.




It's possible the back of the "NO OUTLET" is a "STOP" sign, but given that those blue street name blades look very Fairfax County-esque (though it's been several years since I lived there, I seem to recall there being a Beulah St somewhere in that area), I doubt it was a state or county placed sign.  I could also be putting too much faith in the county governments there.

The back side of this sign has a separate stop sign.  This NO OUTLET sign has been there back to at least 2007 per GMSV - https://goo.gl/maps/Nbv4yZyrQ7A2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 08, 2017, 01:47:42 PM
Some of the signage in London, ON use ugly fonts (in my opinion)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvGsARPO.jpg&hash=16ca43e7ed04c836c363c26406847fa3e5038526)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqMmIvhK.jpg&hash=cf8a12dc2c0315d1e029dfac15673c6e5630d0d3)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWsyFluO.jpg&hash=19e8301518ccd3d85767471a82fb88edf4b8da33)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD0yKJcB.jpg&hash=e30ecec7a9d95001953ef66059a0cf2fed734844)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 08, 2017, 02:41:10 PM
One more interesting sign I found is this green-on-white sign for Huron CR 15 at CR 17 in Kinburn, ON.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRDMp3lY.jpg&hash=98fc10d688471e826d43bbdb1dd219be3c666336)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 08, 2017, 08:39:45 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 08, 2017, 06:51:38 AM
Quote from: tckma on August 07, 2017, 05:02:19 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 07, 2017, 03:32:34 PM
This looks to me like a resident probably posted it, which is why I'm putting this here and not in the "erroneous" thread.




It's possible the back of the "NO OUTLET" is a "STOP" sign, but given that those blue street name blades look very Fairfax County-esque (though it's been several years since I lived there, I seem to recall there being a Beulah St somewhere in that area), I doubt it was a state or county placed sign.  I could also be putting too much faith in the county governments there.

The back side of this sign has a separate stop sign.  This NO OUTLET sign has been there back to at least 2007 per GMSV - https://goo.gl/maps/Nbv4yZyrQ7A2

I've passed it hundreds of times but Sunday was the first chance I'd had to get a picture. Never been around the other side. The adjacent street, Gayfields Road, used to have its own unique sign, an orange work zone sign reading "No Construction Traffic At All"!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 09, 2017, 06:50:23 PM
I actually like this sign and idea:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfbZ8JlK.jpg&hash=a3e48becef4523a46e4f947855548ed02e338716)

Saw it in the south end of New Britain, CT today (August 9, 2017).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 09, 2017, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on August 09, 2017, 06:50:23 PM
I actually like this sign and idea:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfbZ8JlK.jpg&hash=a3e48becef4523a46e4f947855548ed02e338716)

Saw it in the south end of New Britain, CT today (August 9, 2017).

I wish VDOT posted similar signs when they milled numerous secondary roads in the rural areas. At least it would've gave residents a heads up. Matter of fact they didn't even repave many of them, just left them milled
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 10, 2017, 07:21:03 AM
Me and a friend, naturally, find humor in the situation! My friend's comments first, then mine:

The crisis is so bad that now we are sending our pavement to rehab. SMH. I hope it finds meaning and inner peace, especially given how much we trample on it... but mostly I hope it's out in 30 days. :)

As well as water being splashed in its face (rain), society spitting on it, teens leaving skid marks, etc. Lastly, how does the pavement get up if its ordered to attend AAA meetings?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 10, 2017, 04:14:09 PM
An unusual Pedestrian Crossing sign in Hernando Beach, Florida.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_Pelican_Marina.JPG

I should've taken this one myself.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 11, 2017, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on August 09, 2017, 06:50:23 PM
I actually like this sign and idea:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfbZ8JlK.jpg&hash=a3e48becef4523a46e4f947855548ed02e338716)

Saw it in the south end of New Britain, CT today (August 9, 2017).

It's missing "WORK ZONE - ROAD USE RESTRICTED - STATE LIABILITY LIMITED - CT LAW 138947812.2359812348.1395 PARA 3.4175734a et. seq." that is omnipresent on orange construction signs in Connecticut, isn't it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JKRhodes on August 11, 2017, 08:43:55 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ZLRUHocCcVP2

This intersection warning sign in Tucson, AZ has a supplemental plaque that says "303 FT," a rather precise number. Unfortunately the street view image fell victim to google's blurring algorithm. I have a picture of it on my phone, just need to find a reliable hosting service.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 11, 2017, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: roadiejay on August 11, 2017, 08:43:55 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ZLRUHocCcVP2

This intersection warning sign in Tucson, AZ has a supplemental plaque that says "303 FT," a rather precise number. Unfortunately the street view image fell victim to google's blurring algorithm. I have a picture of it on my phone, just need to find a reliable hosting service.
I'd recommend Flickr or Imgur.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 11, 2017, 09:52:58 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 11, 2017, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: roadiejay on August 11, 2017, 08:43:55 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ZLRUHocCcVP2

This intersection warning sign in Tucson, AZ has a supplemental plaque that says "303 FT," a rather precise number. Unfortunately the street view image fell victim to google's blurring algorithm. I have a picture of it on my phone, just need to find a reliable hosting service.
I'd recommend Flickr or Imgur.

Definitely Flickr. Flickr allows editing the description, tags, etc. of an image in a public album without having to delete the album first. On Imgur, doing any of these requires deleting the album. Not only that, but pictures can't be added to a public album without deleting the album and re-uploading the whole album with the newly added pictures.

Also, Imgur has a problem with downvotes; almost all photographs get downvoted. (Internet memes get upvoted; almost everything else, like photographs or screenshots, gets downvoted.) Flickr does not have an upvote/downvote system, so it is not a problem there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 11, 2017, 11:51:54 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 11, 2017, 09:52:58 PM
Flickr allows editing the description, tags, etc. of an image in a public album without having to delete the album first. On Imgur, doing any of these requires deleting the album. Not only that, but pictures can't be added to a public album without deleting the album and re-uploading the whole album with the newly added pictures.

None of that is true. Not a single thing you wrote (in relation to Imgur).

Quote from: 1 on August 11, 2017, 09:52:58 PM
Also, Imgur has a problem with downvotes; almost all photographs get downvoted. (Internet memes get upvoted; almost everything else, like photographs or screenshots, gets downvoted.) Flickr does not have an upvote/downvote system, so it is not a problem there.

If this keeps you from using the service, you should see a psychologist.



Use Flickr if you want to hit a thousand buttons before trying to upload. Use Imgur if you just want to upload images to share *somewhere else*. (Imgur has drag+drop uploads, so super-fast to share).

Credit where credit's due: Flickr has a much friendlier social-interaction interface. But unless you use that aspect of the site, it's a waste of time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 12, 2017, 02:35:50 AM
If we're talking about construction project signs, here's one for St. Louis County, MN. I saw a few of these around last month:

(https://i.imgur.com/BjmXIUj.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2017, 12:56:53 PM
Doug Kerr took this pic a while back:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:South_end_of_NY_332.jpg

I have to admit, I like the set up there.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
"We didn't make the sign wide enough for the longer street name! What should we do?"
"Just reduce the kerning on that line. No-one will notice."
Memorial Parkway (US 231) Southbound, Huntsville, AL - 8-10-17
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4363/36363279232_9a3b8655bf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Xpij3d)Inconsistent Kerning (https://flic.kr/p/Xpij3d) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 13, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
"We didn't make the sign wide enough for the longer street name! What should we do?"
"Just reduce the kerning on that line. No-one will notice."

And if anyone really takes notice, lets off-balance the letter "S" in Spring, to really piss them off!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 13, 2017, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
"We didn't make the sign wide enough for the longer street name! What should we do?"
"Just reduce the kerning on that line. No-one will notice."

I despise this, but is it uncommon? I see it every now and then in Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 13, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 13, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
"We didn't make the sign wide enough for the longer street name! What should we do?"
"Just reduce the kerning on that line. No-one will notice."

And if anyone really takes notice, lets off-balance the letter "S" in Spring, to really piss them off!!!
I didn't even notice that! :ded:

Quote from: jakeroot on August 13, 2017, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
"We didn't make the sign wide enough for the longer street name! What should we do?"
"Just reduce the kerning on that line. No-one will notice."

I despise this, but is it uncommon? I see it every now and then in Washington.
First time I've ever seen it. It certainly fits the "Odd" and/or "Ugly" categories for the thread, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 13, 2017, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 13, 2017, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 13, 2017, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 12, 2017, 09:16:32 PM
"We didn't make the sign wide enough for the longer street name! What should we do?"
"Just reduce the kerning on that line. No-one will notice."

I despise this, but is it uncommon? I see it every now and then in Washington.

First time I've ever seen it. It certainly fits the "Odd" and/or "Ugly" categories for the thread, that's for sure.

Absolutely. Completely hideous. Just make the sign wider, guys!

Example near me: https://goo.gl/KPFYDg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on August 13, 2017, 11:02:28 PM
Apologies if this is a repost.

Ran across this in my browsing.  I appreciate the detailed nature of this sign.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/651/20209222643_c8d9aa59f8_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 14, 2017, 05:09:55 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 11, 2017, 09:52:58 PM
Also, Imgur has a problem with downvotes; almost all photographs get downvoted. (Internet memes get upvoted; almost everything else, like photographs or screenshots, gets downvoted.) Flickr does not have an upvote/downvote system, so it is not a problem there.

Set it to show to "just me" instead of "everyone" and people will only be able to see it if they're given the link, so no up/downvotes. If you set it to display to "everyone", it gets posted to the social-media-ish part of the site. You wouldn't want to see photos from people you don't know on your Facebook feed, either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 19, 2017, 11:22:51 AM
Andrews Street in New Britain (CT) has now been repaved. The sign I linked a few days ago is now gone. Anyways, speaking of signs in this worn industrial city, this neat little one went up by Broad Street a few days ago:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1wzXat0.jpg&hash=560a126e3dec9104844b08cfb33907fc2554a9e0)

BABCIA is Polish for grandmother. It's in the Little Poland neighborhood, immediately north of our downtown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2017, 02:08:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/cz7stnCQY2N2

Found this oddity. A new (installed between Aug 2015 and Aug 2016) I-19 metric sign, written in series EEM.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2017, 02:08:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/cz7stnCQY2N2

Found this oddity. A new (installed between Aug 2015 and Aug 2016) I-19 metric sign, written in series EEM.

I never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

But then I see milepost 34 posted alongside the fence, facing perpendicular to I-19. Then I look to the other side of I-19 and see another MP 34 facing me. Can someone explain this odd use of mileposts?

The other weird thing Google will have to answer: Irishes in Support of Whipple? (from the litter patrol sign posted on the frontage road)  :hmmm:  :confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2017, 02:08:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/cz7stnCQY2N2

Found this oddity. A new (installed between Aug 2015 and Aug 2016) I-19 metric sign, written in series EEM.

I never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

But then I see milepost 34 posted alongside the fence, facing perpendicular to I-19. Then I look to the other side of I-19 and see another MP 34 facing me. Can someone explain this odd use of mileposts?

The km markers along I-19 are posted in the traditional way ala mile markers -- facing traffic.  For whatever reason, the distance in miles is posted as well, but posted on the fences to avoid confusion with the metric km posts. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2017, 02:08:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/cz7stnCQY2N2

Found this oddity. A new (installed between Aug 2015 and Aug 2016) I-19 metric sign, written in series EEM.

I never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

But then I see milepost 34 posted alongside the fence, facing perpendicular to I-19. Then I look to the other side of I-19 and see another MP 34 facing me. Can someone explain this odd use of mileposts?

The km markers along I-19 are posted in the traditional way ala mile markers -- facing traffic.  For whatever reason, the distance in miles is posted as well, but posted on the fences to avoid confusion with the metric km posts. 


So the exit numbers are based on the metric system...very interesting. Is this statewide or just I-19?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 20, 2017, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 10:25:25 AM
So the exit numbers are based on the metric system...very interesting. Is this statewide or just I-19?

Just I-19.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 20, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AMI never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

The milepost is actually on mainline I-19, not the frontage road, but turned 90° in plan so that it faces the roadway centerline rather than traffic.  The generally accepted (but not, as far as I am aware, officially confirmed) explanation for dual-posting of mileposts and km-posts on I-19 in this fashion is to allow mileposting to be reinstated simply by unscrewing each milepost panel and moving it to the side that faces traffic.  (The square posts Arizona DOT uses for small signs have perforations both front to back and side to side.)

I-19 was originally signed in English units but changed to metric in 1981, as an experiment.  The original 1981 signs were replaced, not quite in kind but also with metric units, in 1999.  They are due for replacement and Arizona DOT has expressed the desire to return to English units, but seems to have backed away from this plan due to local complaints.  Speed limit and advisory speed signs have been left in English units, presumably for enforceability (though this explanation has also not been officially confirmed).  The original 1981 signing plans have drawings for metric speed limit and advisory speed signs and it has been claimed that these were posted very briefly in 1981, but I have not seen photographic proof.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2017, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on August 20, 2017, 02:08:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/cz7stnCQY2N2

Found this oddity. A new (installed between Aug 2015 and Aug 2016) I-19 metric sign, written in series EEM.

I never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

But then I see milepost 34 posted alongside the fence, facing perpendicular to I-19. Then I look to the other side of I-19 and see another MP 34 facing me. Can someone explain this odd use of mileposts?

The km markers along I-19 are posted in the traditional way ala mile markers -- facing traffic.  For whatever reason, the distance in miles is posted as well, but posted on the fences to avoid confusion with the metric km posts. 


So the exit numbers are based on the metric system...very interesting. Is this statewide or just I-19?

Exit numbers and signs are almost completely metric. Most of the signs are old, button copy signs that are due to be replaced according to ADOT. There are a couple Clearview metric signs near the northern terminus:

https://goo.gl/maps/DtoxBhBrx4m

https://goo.gl/maps/i54mLm4QLe22

I've always found I-19 to be interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 20, 2017, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 20, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AMI never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

The milepost is actually on mainline I-19, not the frontage road, but turned 90° in plan so that it faces the roadway centerline rather than traffic. The generally accepted (but not, as far as I am aware, officially confirmed) explanation for dual-posting of mileposts and km-posts on I-19 in this fashion is to allow mileposting to be reinstated simply by unscrewing each milepost panel and moving it to the side that faces traffic.   

That Street View link didn't really do the original comment justice... If you back up a step and jump to the frontage road in Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7784653,-111.0284532,3a,75y,12.06h,79.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snIpHAwbPzYycaP39pBP-LA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), you'll see the mileposts on the Frontage Road (and still see the mainline milepost turned as described.

The sideways milepost is still interesting though, and the explanation makes sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 20, 2017, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 20, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 20, 2017, 08:06:12 AMI never saw the metric sign, but I found something up the road that was odd (to me, not being familiar with AZ signing practices):

I-19

http://maps.google.com/maps?layer=c&panoid=yYBJ4WiOnDU7hCANaxiC6A&cbp=1%2C121.83321%2C%2C3.0%2C7.183922

First weird thing...a frontage road with a milepost...in this case, MP 34. So I start thinking this is a state highway playing the role of a frontage road, especially since the next exit on I-19 is 56.

The milepost is actually on mainline I-19, not the frontage road, but turned 90° in plan so that it faces the roadway centerline rather than traffic. The generally accepted (but not, as far as I am aware, officially confirmed) explanation for dual-posting of mileposts and km-posts on I-19 in this fashion is to allow mileposting to be reinstated simply by unscrewing each milepost panel and moving it to the side that faces traffic.   

That Street View link didn't really do the original comment justice... If you back up a step and jump to the frontage road in Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7784653,-111.0284532,3a,75y,12.06h,79.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snIpHAwbPzYycaP39pBP-LA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), you'll see the mileposts on the Frontage Road (and still see the mainline milepost turned as described.

The sideways milepost is still interesting though, and the explanation makes sense.

Ironic that for a supposedly "all-metric" highway, I don't believe I ever saw any speed limit/advisory signs with km-only or dual km/MPH listings, at least from I-10 down to just south of Tubac, this spring.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 22, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
Ironic that for a supposedly "all-metric" highway, I don't believe I ever saw any speed limit/advisory signs with km-only or dual km/MPH listings, at least from I-10 down to just south of Tubac, this spring.

If I recall correctly, speed limits were kept in MPH for law enforcement reasons. Note that the MUTCD no longer has designs for signs in metric (eliminated in the 2009 version).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 23, 2017, 12:51:56 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 22, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
Ironic that for a supposedly "all-metric" highway, I don't believe I ever saw any speed limit/advisory signs with km-only or dual km/MPH listings, at least from I-10 down to just south of Tubac, this spring.

If I recall correctly, speed limits were kept in MPH for law enforcement reasons. Note that the MUTCD no longer has designs for signs in metric (eliminated in the 2009 version).

Most American drivers don't have a feel for km/h speeds. Also, some cars don't even have the metric speeds on the speedometer. If you got pulled over, you could say "how was I supposed to know how fast 120 km/h is?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 23, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
The primary issue, with dual-posted limits, is that metric and imperial limits don't line up exactly. They are sometimes off by quite a lot.

- 55 MPH = 88.5 km/h (posting 90 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (55.9 MPH))
- 60 MPH = 96.5 km/h (posting 100 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (62.1 MPH))

There are some that are incredibly close, like 120 km/h and 75 MPH, or 40 km/h and 25 MPH, but none are exact, so far as I know. Just seems to be another Montanabahn-level legal blunder waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 23, 2017, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 23, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
The primary issue, with dual-posted limits, is that metric and imperial limits don't line up exactly. They are sometimes off by quite a lot.

- 55 MPH = 88.5 km/h (posting 90 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (55.9 MPH))
- 60 MPH = 96.5 km/h (posting 100 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (62.1 MPH))

There are some that are incredibly close, like 120 km/h and 75 MPH, or 40 km/h and 25 MPH, but none are exact, so far as I know. Just seems to be another Montanabahn-level legal blunder waiting to happen.

Posting 65 MPH as 100 km/h (62.1 MPH) seems reasonable -- it's a slightly lower limit.  In Canada, especially just after crossing the border, I very often saw dual-posted limits: "Maximum 100 km/h 62 MPH."  The .1 gets dropped off. 

I guess I don't really see the issue.  Why not post as follows:

55 MPH -- 88 km/h (I've actually seen this in some photos from the 70s when metrification was last seriously considered in the US)
60 MPH -- 96 km/h.

You drop that half kilometer per hour.  So what?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 23, 2017, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: tckma on August 23, 2017, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 23, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
The primary issue, with dual-posted limits, is that metric and imperial limits don't line up exactly. They are sometimes off by quite a lot.

- 55 MPH = 88.5 km/h (posting 90 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (55.9 MPH))
- 60 MPH = 96.5 km/h (posting 100 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (62.1 MPH))

There are some that are incredibly close, like 120 km/h and 75 MPH, or 40 km/h and 25 MPH, but none are exact, so far as I know. Just seems to be another Montanabahn-level legal blunder waiting to happen.

Posting 65 MPH as 100 km/h (62.1 MPH) seems reasonable -- it's a slightly lower limit.  In Canada, especially just after crossing the border, I very often saw dual-posted limits: "Maximum 100 km/h 62 MPH."  The .1 gets dropped off. 

I guess I don't really see the issue.  Why not post as follows:

55 MPH -- 88 km/h (I've actually seen this in some photos from the 70s when metrification was last seriously considered in the US)
60 MPH -- 96 km/h.

You drop that half kilometer per hour.  So what?

It's unusual to see speed limits that aren't multiples of 5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on August 23, 2017, 11:09:23 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 23, 2017, 10:47:42 AM
It's unusual to see speed limits that aren't multiples of 5.

Unusual yes, but not unwarranted for law enforcement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 23, 2017, 11:52:30 AM
Quote from: tckma on August 23, 2017, 10:28:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 23, 2017, 02:43:30 AM
The primary issue, with dual-posted limits, is that metric and imperial limits don't line up exactly. They are sometimes off by quite a lot.

- 55 MPH = 88.5 km/h (posting 90 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (55.9 MPH))
- 60 MPH = 96.5 km/h (posting 100 km/h would create a new, higher, limit (62.1 MPH))

There are some that are incredibly close, like 120 km/h and 75 MPH, or 40 km/h and 25 MPH, but none are exact, so far as I know. Just seems to be another Montanabahn-level legal blunder waiting to happen.

Posting 65 MPH as 100 km/h (62.1 MPH) seems reasonable -- it's a slightly lower limit.  In Canada, especially just after crossing the border, I very often saw dual-posted limits: "Maximum 100 km/h 62 MPH."  The .1 gets dropped off. 

I guess I don't really see the issue.  Why not post as follows:

55 MPH -- 88 km/h (I've actually seen this in some photos from the 70s when metrification was last seriously considered in the US)
60 MPH -- 96 km/h.

You drop that half kilometer per hour.  So what?

Back in the day, the US had 105km/h for 65mph; close enough.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7436/8727354952_e05e0f8265_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/eicYz7)
I-95  Palm Beach, Fla, June 1988 (https://flic.kr/p/eicYz7) by Averill Hecht (https://www.flickr.com/photos/25311216@N00/), on Flickr

60 km/h was used for 40mph (https://flic.kr/p/6aWepo), though it equates to nearly 64 (https://flic.kr/p/nPJWYD), it probably should have been 65. But maybe that was too close for comfort to the state speed limit of 65mph, since that sign was just off another route with a 65 miles per hour limit.

Quote from: 1 on August 23, 2017, 10:47:42 AM
It's unusual to see speed limits that aren't multiples of 5.

The problem is also that speedometers are hard to read if they're not multiples of 5 or 10. Usually, 5s are used for MPH, and 10s for KM/H.

Some have finer markings, others do not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 23, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 23, 2017, 10:47:42 AM
It's unusual to see speed limits that aren't multiples of 5.

Unusual, yes, but not unheard of.  I saw this video posted on another thread, or maybe even in this thread, on this very forum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPymwxAtc0

"...but that's a suggested speed sign, not a regulatory speed sign."

OK, then how about this?

(https://t02.deviantart.net/LZvEAslnVi955C1iZ4p9mO83-JE=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre08/40c4/th/pre/i/2004/226/a/9/speed_limit_in_north_carolina.jpg)

Quote from: formulanone on August 23, 2017, 11:52:30 AM
The problem is also that speedometers are hard to read if they're not multiples of 5 or 10. Usually, 5s are used for MPH, and 10s for KM/H.

Some have finer markings, others do not.

That's unlikely to hold up in court.  If your speedometer doesn't have finer markings, use the closest marking you have that is lower than the speed limit just to ensure you don't exceed the limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 23, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 23, 2017, 12:51:56 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 22, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
Ironic that for a supposedly "all-metric" highway, I don't believe I ever saw any speed limit/advisory signs with km-only or dual km/MPH listings, at least from I-10 down to just south of Tubac, this spring.

If I recall correctly, speed limits were kept in MPH for law enforcement reasons. Note that the MUTCD no longer has designs for signs in metric (eliminated in the 2009 version).

Most American drivers don't have a feel for km/h speeds. Also, some cars don't even have the metric speeds on the speedometer. If you got pulled over, you could say "how was I supposed to know how fast 120 km/h is?"
That would be a good argument for mandating that all cars have some from of metric info for the speedometer.  My Civic has a digital speedometer that can switch with the push of a button, so I don't need to convert anything - it's perfectly seamless.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 23, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
OK, then how about this?

(https://t02.deviantart.net/LZvEAslnVi955C1iZ4p9mO83-JE=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre08/40c4/th/pre/i/2004/226/a/9/speed_limit_in_north_carolina.jpg)

That's probably on private property and isn't legal.

Also, per the MUTCD:

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on August 23, 2017, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 23, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 23, 2017, 12:51:56 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 22, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 20, 2017, 04:47:39 PM
Ironic that for a supposedly "all-metric" highway, I don't believe I ever saw any speed limit/advisory signs with km-only or dual km/MPH listings, at least from I-10 down to just south of Tubac, this spring.

If I recall correctly, speed limits were kept in MPH for law enforcement reasons. Note that the MUTCD no longer has designs for signs in metric (eliminated in the 2009 version).

Most American drivers don't have a feel for km/h speeds. Also, some cars don't even have the metric speeds on the speedometer. If you got pulled over, you could say "how was I supposed to know how fast 120 km/h is?"
That would be a good argument for mandating that all cars have some from of metric info for the speedometer.  My Civic has a digital speedometer that can switch with the push of a button, so I don't need to convert anything - it's perfectly seamless.

My (2016) Mazda3 has an analog speedometer, but the GPS also tells me the speed limit of most major roads. Driving into Canada, it still tells me the speed limit in MPH, but gets it correct from the converted KPH (for example, the 100 KPH limit is noted as a 62 MPH speed limit on it).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Don't all cars sold in the US have dual US/metric speedometers? I have never driven a car that didn't have km/h listed. The one car I drove with a digital speedometer (until some $&*#$#@#$ totaled it because they weren't paying attention) changed with a button push.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on August 23, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Don't all cars sold in the US have dual US/metric speedometers? I have never driven a car that didn't have km/h listed. The one car I drove with a digital speedometer (until some $&*#$#@#$ totaled it because they weren't paying attention) changed with a button push.

They had dual read speedometers at least in the early 80s, when my Grand Prix was built (83).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 23, 2017, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on August 23, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Don't all cars sold in the US have dual US/metric speedometers? I have never driven a car that didn't have km/h listed. The one car I drove with a digital speedometer (until some $&*#$#@#$ totaled it because they weren't paying attention) changed with a button push.

They had dual read speedometers at least in the early 80s, when my Grand Prix was built (83).

I've never seen a car without dual-read speedometers in my time doing valet. I've utilised thousands of speedometers over the years, and every single one of them had either a gauge-within-a-gauge, or a setting that changed the read-out from MPH to km/h.

Every now and then, I'll talk to somebody who thinks they have an MPH-only gauge, but invariably, there's a setting inside the car to change the analog gauge so that the needle points to km/h values instead of MPH values (common in GM vehicles). There might be older cars (seriously old) without the option, but not any recent ones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 24, 2017, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 23, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
OK, then how about this?

(https://t02.deviantart.net/LZvEAslnVi955C1iZ4p9mO83-JE=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre08/40c4/th/pre/i/2004/226/a/9/speed_limit_in_north_carolina.jpg)

That's probably on private property and isn't legal.

Also, per the MUTCD:

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

What about the 18 mph speed limit signs on Silver Ave in Albuquerque?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 24, 2017, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 24, 2017, 12:30:01 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 23, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
OK, then how about this?

(https://t02.deviantart.net/LZvEAslnVi955C1iZ4p9mO83-JE=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre08/40c4/th/pre/i/2004/226/a/9/speed_limit_in_north_carolina.jpg)

That's probably on private property and isn't legal.

Also, per the MUTCD:

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

What about the 18 mph speed limit signs on Silver Ave in Albuquerque?

According to Section 2B.13, speed limit signs shall display speeds in multiples of 5. Therefore, the signs along Silver Ave are not speed limit signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 24, 2017, 07:10:59 AM
Quote from: cl94 on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Don't all cars sold in the US have dual US/metric speedometers? I have never driven a car that didn't have km/h listed. The one car I drove with a digital speedometer (until some $&*#$#@#$ totaled it because they weren't paying attention) changed with a button push.

Everything I've seen from the 1980s to today has both units; and it's probably a few years earlier, since our last metrication attempt was in the 1970s.

As for the feel of speed, you either keep up with the flow of traffic, or do a double-check when driving in another country...it's not too difficult. And the sensation of speed is the same; you're not suddenly tasked with 180 km/h.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 24, 2017, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: cl94 on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Don't all cars sold in the US have dual US/metric speedometers? I have never driven a car that didn't have km/h listed. The one car I drove with a digital speedometer (until some $&*#$#@#$ totaled it because they weren't paying attention) changed with a button push.

Every car I have ever driven or owned since I got my learner's permit in 1994 has at the very least had the km/h equivalents in tiny numbers alongside the big MPH numbers.  When I rented a car on a trip in Canada, it had km/h as the big numbers and MPH as the small numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 24, 2017, 10:14:36 PM
Here's some signs from the first half of my Orlando trip.

Trapezoidal "ramp ends here" sign on the 402 at Airport Rd in Sarnia, ON.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZa26dCD.jpg&hash=45e2d674d3ad4af81fa9d1f7cdc2e11b7d250202)

For some reason I like this "grooved pavement" sign on I-65 in Tennessee. I saw lots of these in Tennessee (and possibly Georgia).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F99jZtxr.jpg&hash=4ee959e6b2a3d65f1be685b7b8164ab2d1b24bca)

24 mph speed limits all around Opry Mills in Nashville, TN. This photo was taken soon around 10 minutes after the total eclipse.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft6qKgk9.jpg&hash=7cad06b7fe93f2bcc844615fdb021eb009e40a4f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 24, 2017, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

So the unelected federal bureaucrats are telling local governments what their speed limits are supposed to be?  :pan: :pan:

Or worse, that no matter what speed limit a governmental body sets, it has to be signed in multiples of 5 (meaning the signed speed limit is incorrect if it's posted at 25 but the local government sets the speed limit at 27.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 24, 2017, 11:11:21 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 24, 2017, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: cl94 on August 23, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
Don't all cars sold in the US have dual US/metric speedometers? I have never driven a car that didn't have km/h listed. The one car I drove with a digital speedometer (until some $&*#$#@#$ totaled it because they weren't paying attention) changed with a button push.

Every car I have ever driven or owned since I got my learner's permit in 1994 has at the very least had the km/h equivalents in tiny numbers alongside the big MPH numbers.  When I rented a car on a trip in Canada, it had km/h as the big numbers and MPH as the small numbers.
Makes sense, and I'm old enough to remember when cars only had MPH numbers. How long has Canada been putting km/h numbers on their speedometers?

I know it's OT, but I just had to ask.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 25, 2017, 12:51:04 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 24, 2017, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

So the unelected federal bureaucrats are telling local governments what their speed limits are supposed to be?  :pan: :pan:

Or worse, that no matter what speed limit a governmental body sets, it has to be signed in multiples of 5 (meaning the signed speed limit is incorrect if it's posted at 25 but the local government sets the speed limit at 27.)

Nah, the smarmy guys in suits who think they're bigshots because they won a popularity contest are telling the scientists how to do their jobs!

:pan:           :pan:
          :pan:
:pan:           :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 25, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 24, 2017, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

So the unelected federal bureaucrats engineers are telling local governments what their speed limits are supposed to be?

FTFY. And yes, because some very basic things ought to be standardised. The FHWA permits a lot of freedom. Let up a bit.

Quote from: hbelkins on August 24, 2017, 10:57:05 PM
Or worse, that no matter what speed limit a governmental body sets, it has to be signed in multiples of 5 (meaning the signed speed limit is incorrect if it's posted at 25 but the local government sets the speed limit at 27.)

Has this ever happened? Feels a bit like a straw man.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on August 25, 2017, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 25, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 24, 2017, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 23, 2017, 12:41:19 PM

Quote
Section 2B.13 Speed Limit Sign (R2-1)

Standard:

02 The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

So the unelected federal bureaucrats engineers are telling local governments what their speed limits are supposed to be?

FTFY. And yes, because some very basic things ought to be standardised. The FHWA permits a lot of freedom. Let up a bit.

Honestly, I trust the engineers a hell of a lot more than I trust some twit who knows very little and won a popularity contest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 25, 2017, 09:08:59 PM
Here's three signs taken at Universal Studios theme park in Orlando today.

Black-on-yellow stop sign (doesn't look MUTCD-compliant to me! :))
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxyUepMp.jpg&hash=427ae0b09e5370d78e822bf2f748deb6d9ff09c1)

US 480, and some California cities (did this highway ever exist?). Also, why isn't it a cutout?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsEktYGk.jpg&hash=fdb2472a7b0312f0b5c6ade0dcd5ef929ed0310e)

Minion Crossing (bonus points for running some over :awesomeface:)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7hjCpyJ.jpg&hash=f6050140b8308889aed3673a9c96794ad207714d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on August 26, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 25, 2017, 09:08:59 PM
US 480, and some California cities (did this highway ever exist?).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsEktYGk.jpg&hash=fdb2472a7b0312f0b5c6ade0dcd5ef929ed0310e)

480 did exist in San Francisco as the Embarcadero Freeway.  Originally an Interstate, it was later downgraded to a California state route before the 1989 Loma Prieta quake damaged the double-deck freeway enough that it was torn down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 26, 2017, 01:41:46 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on August 26, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 25, 2017, 09:08:59 PM
US 480, and some California cities (did this highway ever exist?).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsEktYGk.jpg&hash=fdb2472a7b0312f0b5c6ade0dcd5ef929ed0310e)

480 did exist in San Francisco as the Embarcadero Freeway.  Originally an Interstate, it was later downgraded to a California state route before the 1989 Loma Prieta quake damaged the double-deck freeway enough that it was torn down.

I believe he was referring to the US 480 designation, which has never existed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 26, 2017, 02:26:33 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 26, 2017, 01:41:46 AM
I believe he was referring to the US 480 designation, which has never existed.

Right, but according to Google Maps it is approximately 390 miles from San Francisco to Los Angeles, which suggests that the distances on this sign are correct, even if the sign is the wrong colors and refers to the wrong route type.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JJBers on August 27, 2017, 01:00:15 AM
Well, this is odd.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4421/35997511894_899a3167b2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WQYE9N)
Uses a regular RI sign for the number and direction, but uses a yellow "WEST" sign at the top.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 27, 2017, 07:13:40 AM
Staying in Rhode Island...this "beauty" is along US 6 Bypass in Johnston. It clearly dates to when I-295 opened here:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fv3h59Lf.jpg&hash=81fef0bb89d64b2e187ac8773e7f7bb6b58141f5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 27, 2017, 10:19:28 AM
Quote from: JJBers on August 27, 2017, 01:00:15 AM
Well, this is odd.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4421/35997511894_899a3167b2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WQYE9N)
Uses a regular RI sign for the number and direction, but uses a yellow "WEST" sign at the top.

Did not start out yellow...faded to it:

https://goo.gl/maps/mB9LAB414TK2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 27, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 27, 2017, 10:19:28 AM
Quote from: JJBers on August 27, 2017, 01:00:15 AM
Well, this is odd.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4421/35997511894_899a3167b2_z.jpg
Uses a regular RI sign for the number and direction, but uses a yellow "WEST" sign at the top.

Did not start out yellow...faded to it:

https://goo.gl/maps/mB9LAB414TK2

Interesting. I'm used to seeing signs fade from "color" to "no color", not the other way around. Must be the result of the fabrication style?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2017, 11:49:19 AM
Another unusual one in Bushnell, Florida:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_Sumter_CR_610_@_CR_616_in_Bushnell.jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 28, 2017, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2017, 11:49:19 AM
Another unusual one in Bushnell, Florida:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_Sumter_CR_610_@_CR_616_in_Bushnell.jpg

Brilliant. I love seeing custom symbol signs like this. Too bad this isn't a standard sign.

^^ Riiga, check this out ^^
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on August 29, 2017, 02:32:04 PM
Certainly unique! The pictogram could be better though, the ditch symbol to the left looks like the dip symbol in Europe. Something like
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Czech_Republic_road_sign_A_28.svg/200px-Czech_Republic_road_sign_A_28.svg.png)
would probably be better, though this is "soft verge or dangerous shoulder".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JJBers on August 30, 2017, 05:18:45 AM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on August 27, 2017, 07:13:40 AM
Staying in Rhode Island...this "beauty" is along US 6 Bypass in Johnston. It clearly dates to when I-295 opened here:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fv3h59Lf.jpg&hash=81fef0bb89d64b2e187ac8773e7f7bb6b58141f5)
No Attleboro...aww
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on August 30, 2017, 08:54:53 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4375/36826798555_fbe777d580_z_d.jpg)
Sanborn, MN, has a retro feel to it

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4385/36017567813_313dcab3fc_z_d.jpg)
New London, MN
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 30, 2017, 10:05:07 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 30, 2017, 08:54:53 AM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4385/36017567813_313dcab3fc_z_d.jpg

New London, MN

What's the context of this one? Looks like a slip lane, but the 71 shield indicates that you can turn left, so that must not be the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on August 30, 2017, 10:27:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 30, 2017, 10:05:07 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 30, 2017, 08:54:53 AM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4385/36017567813_313dcab3fc_z_d.jpg

New London, MN


What's the context of this one? Looks like a slip lane, but the 71 shield indicates that you can turn left, so that must not be the case.

I'm guessing it's a bad intersection

The 71 & 9 signs are off kilter.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 30, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
Those intersection warning signs, or a variant of them, are becoming more common. There are sensors that indicate when traffic is approaching from the cross road to alert motorists that a driver may pull across traffic. They are commonly used at intersections where drivers run stop signs or otherwise pull out into oncoming traffic and there is a high crash history.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on August 30, 2017, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 30, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
Those intersection warning signs, or a variant of them, are becoming more common. There are sensors that indicate when traffic is approaching from the cross road to alert motorists that a driver may pull across traffic. They are commonly used at intersections where drivers run stop signs or otherwise pull out into oncoming traffic and there is a high crash history.

I spotted one of those signs on US 431 on eclipse day, though I can't remember just where. It was the first time I had seen one, so perhaps they are more prevalent in the Bluegrass State.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Truvelo on August 30, 2017, 05:20:19 PM
The 5 on this sign looks a little dodgy.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2F50sign.jpg&hash=d5998159c2c6aaaba0d350c64a98408f81919e6b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 30, 2017, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: riiga on August 29, 2017, 02:32:04 PM
Certainly unique! The pictogram could be better though, the ditch symbol to the left looks like the dip symbol in Europe. Something like
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Czech_Republic_road_sign_A_28.svg/200px-Czech_Republic_road_sign_A_28.svg.png)
would probably be better, though this is "soft verge or dangerous shoulder".
We already have "Soft Shoulder" signs in the US. This goes beyond a mere soft shoulder, though.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 31, 2017, 08:33:35 AM
Quote from: Truvelo on August 30, 2017, 05:20:19 PM
The 5 on this sign looks a little dodgy.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2F50sign.jpg&hash=d5998159c2c6aaaba0d350c64a98408f81919e6b)

That 5 looks like the ones that used to posted above gasoline pumps... prior to the prices going over $1/gallon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 31, 2017, 12:10:27 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 30, 2017, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: riiga on August 29, 2017, 02:32:04 PM
Certainly unique! The pictogram could be better though, the ditch symbol to the left looks like the dip symbol in Europe. Something like

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Czech_Republic_road_sign_A_28.svg/200px-Czech_Republic_road_sign_A_28.svg.png

would probably be better, though this is "soft verge or dangerous shoulder".

We already have "Soft Shoulder" signs in the US. This goes beyond a mere soft shoulder, though.

Technically we have every sign, in that we can put any text on a warning sign and call it good. But we don't have a symbol sign to represent it. Though I'm not sure we need this particular sign, since most roads have paved shoulders.

A ditch symbol sign would be nice though. Especially if the ditches have tall grass that give the illusion of a soft shoulder. Potentially quite dangerous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on September 09, 2017, 11:46:52 AM
I like this sign on US 15 north of Frederick, MD (heading NB). It lets you know that the freeway is ending and turning into a divided highway, and that the speed limit switches to 55, all in one sign!

(https://i.imgur.com/DiOxKWT.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 09, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
^ Nice sign. I travelled that section years ago but don't remember it. I've always been a fan of Maryland's signs, they're usually a nice size and easy to read. Even their state route markers and shields on BGS's are bigger than most states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 09, 2017, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: plain on September 09, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
^ Nice sign. I travelled that section years ago but don't remember it. I've always been a fan of Maryland's signs, they're usually a nice size and easy to read. Even their state route markers and shields on BGS's are bigger than most states.

What I don't like about Maryland's signs is the inconsistency of font sizes and shield sizes across multiple signs together...

(three signs, three design standards)

(https://i.imgur.com/pZo3fPq.jpg)

... or even within the same sign.

(https://i.imgur.com/77w8q9c.jpg)

This sign for exit 14A looks like it's on steroids, compared to the other two:

(https://i.imgur.com/8gi15zJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 09, 2017, 05:48:06 PM
^ I never said they were the prettiest  :-D but still one of my favorite states sign wise. I also agree about the lack of consistency (especially along the Capital Beltway)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on September 10, 2017, 07:51:41 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWGCyc5I.jpg&hash=35961405d795b7fe3d0b7673566dcf1d5bd77138)


At least the words/numerals are proportional to the standard CR shield unlike Mercer's new shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg)

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 11, 2017, 06:27:15 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg)

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

And it's non-neutered. Most excellent!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 11, 2017, 09:35:12 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on September 10, 2017, 07:51:41 AM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWGCyc5I.jpg&hash=35961405d795b7fe3d0b7673566dcf1d5bd77138)


At least the words/numerals are proportional to the standard CR shield unlike Mercer's new shields.

Possibly the first state-named county shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg)

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.
The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 11, 2017, 01:09:40 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on September 09, 2017, 05:17:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/pZo3fPq.jpg)

I passed under this one today, and noticed for the first time (after passing this sign about 237467124981982498 times) that the I-95 shield on the center sign seems to have blue reflective tape in the spot where a state name would have been.

Yes, compared with other the states I've lived in, MD does seem to have the most clear, unambiguous, and legible signage.  Though, considering one of the other states I've lived in is Massachusetts, that's a pretty darn low bar to clear.  (I do love MA's "paddle signs" though.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg)

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.

I think he meant "JCT [img]I-15 route marker[/img]", not necessarily "I-15" written out as text. I don't recall seeing a shield by itself without an accompanying "JCT" or cardinal direction recently (well, until now).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 11, 2017, 08:32:29 PM
I found a rather interesting school zone sign today: https://goo.gl/maps/eeZ61GAK2LL2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on September 11, 2017, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 11, 2017, 08:32:29 PM
I found a rather interesting school zone sign today: https://goo.gl/maps/eeZ61GAK2LL2

Oh, Moreau. That town has a ton of weird crap scattered around, much of which has been in place forever. I forgot that sign even existed; we knew someone that lived a block away when I was little and that sign intrigued me as a kid.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

(https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg)

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.

I think he meant "JCT [img]I-15 route marker[/img]", not necessarily "I-15" written out as text. I don't recall seeing a shield by itself without an accompanying "JCT" or cardinal direction recently (well, until now).

Nah, he probably did mean "JCT I-15" in all text. That's fairly common on small mileage signs in some western states–including Nevada (although I'm seeing a slow shift to using route shields on newer signs).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.

I think he meant "JCT [img]I-15 route marker[/img]", not necessarily "I-15" written out as text. I don't recall seeing a shield by itself without an accompanying "JCT" or cardinal direction recently (well, until now).

Nah, he probably did mean "JCT I-15" in all text. That's fairly common on small mileage signs in some western states–including Nevada (although I'm seeing a slow shift to using route shields on newer signs).

But is it common in Utah? I've seen as much, but only very, very rarely and only for state route signage (this (https://goo.gl/xGcBCN) is the only example I can readily think of). I thought the practice was dumped decades ago.

Here's an example of what I thought roadguy2 meant: https://goo.gl/GNYVfH -- as you can tell by the shield and the full stop, this is not a new sign. I never would have guessed that any state was still writing out the route number. Supreme laziness!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 12, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.

I think he meant "JCT [img]I-15 route marker[/img]", not necessarily "I-15" written out as text. I don't recall seeing a shield by itself without an accompanying "JCT" or cardinal direction recently (well, until now).

Nah, he probably did mean "JCT I-15" in all text. That's fairly common on small mileage signs in some western states–including Nevada (although I'm seeing a slow shift to using route shields on newer signs).

But is it common in Utah? I've seen as much, but only very, very rarely and only for state route signage (this (https://goo.gl/xGcBCN) is the only example I can readily think of). I thought the practice was dumped decades ago.

Here's an example of what I thought roadguy2 meant: https://goo.gl/GNYVfH -- as you can tell by the shield and the full stop, this is not a new sign. I never would have guessed that any state was still writing out the route number. Supreme laziness!

I did mean "Jct I-15" in all text. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are several on the rural Utah highways off the interstates, especially the less traveled routes. Those would all be old (wood) signs with text in all-caps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 10:29:16 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 12, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.

I think he meant "JCT [img]I-15 route marker[/img]", not necessarily "I-15" written out as text. I don't recall seeing a shield by itself without an accompanying "JCT" or cardinal direction recently (well, until now).

Nah, he probably did mean "JCT I-15" in all text. That's fairly common on small mileage signs in some western states–including Nevada (although I'm seeing a slow shift to using route shields on newer signs).

But is it common in Utah? I've seen as much, but only very, very rarely and only for state route signage (this (https://goo.gl/xGcBCN) is the only example I can readily think of). I thought the practice was dumped decades ago.

Here's an example of what I thought roadguy2 meant: https://goo.gl/GNYVfH -- as you can tell by the shield and the full stop, this is not a new sign. I never would have guessed that any state was still writing out the route number. Supreme laziness!

I did mean "Jct I-15" in all text. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are several on the rural Utah highways off the interstates, especially the less traveled routes. Those would all be old (wood) signs with text in all-caps.

I stand corrected. Although I missed the bit in your OP where you said "in plain text" -- I wouldn't have commented had I saw that. :pan:

Question, though: Have any other new distance signs in Utah used all-text? I understand old signs using all text, but new signs? Still hard to believe any would be installed, even in states that have a plethora of old all-text signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 13, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 10:29:16 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 12, 2017, 10:06:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 12, 2017, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on September 11, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2017, 07:01:03 PM
New signs were recently erected at the east end of UT 7. The sign isn't unique, odd, or interesting, but the shoulder markings are! Looks like the sign crew wanted to leave absolutely no doubt as to which sign was to be erected here. (All of the new signs have similarly verbose markings on the shoulder.)

https://i.imgur.com/MCNaQOA.jpg

It's somewhat unique in that it uses the Interstate shield for the second control point. A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15". I like what UDOT is doing here.

The use of an interstate (or any route) shield (en lieu of text) for a destination on a mileage sign is the current MUTCD standard.

I think he meant "JCT [img]I-15 route marker[/img]", not necessarily "I-15" written out as text. I don't recall seeing a shield by itself without an accompanying "JCT" or cardinal direction recently (well, until now).

Nah, he probably did mean "JCT I-15" in all text. That's fairly common on small mileage signs in some western states–including Nevada (although I'm seeing a slow shift to using route shields on newer signs).

But is it common in Utah? I've seen as much, but only very, very rarely and only for state route signage (this (https://goo.gl/xGcBCN) is the only example I can readily think of). I thought the practice was dumped decades ago.

Here's an example of what I thought roadguy2 meant: https://goo.gl/GNYVfH -- as you can tell by the shield and the full stop, this is not a new sign. I never would have guessed that any state was still writing out the route number. Supreme laziness!

I did mean "Jct I-15" in all text. I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I'm sure there are several on the rural Utah highways off the interstates, especially the less traveled routes. Those would all be old (wood) signs with text in all-caps.

I stand corrected. Although I missed the bit in your OP where you said "in plain text" -- I wouldn't have commented had I saw that. :pan:

Question, though: Have any other new distance signs in Utah used all-text? I understand old signs using all text, but new signs? Still hard to believe any would be installed, even in states that have a plethora of old all-text signs.

AFAIK, no new distance signs are all text, all the new ones use the shields. Also, the shields which were put up after 2013 or so all have the state name.

Although it's not a distance sign, there is a newer sign on I-80 westbound near 700 East in SLC which reads "SLC Int'l Airport Use I-15 North" in all text. (Which is only funny because the best way to the airport from there is 201W to 215N to 80W.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ColossalBlocks on September 14, 2017, 05:49:13 PM
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/dgfF6tcxSpmORErYt9XIOQ.png)

Highly deformed Missouri, anyone?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 14, 2017, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 13, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 10:29:16 PM
Have any other new distance signs in Utah used all-text? I understand old signs using all text, but new signs? Still hard to believe any would be installed, even in states that have a plethora of old all-text signs.

AFAIK, no new distance signs are all text, all the new ones use the shields. Also, the shields which were put up after 2013 or so all have the state name.

So, what exactly were you getting at with your original reply? You seem to imply that all-text guide signs are the norm (but ^^this^^ indicates otherwise):

Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15".

Sorry to get nitpicky. You just seem to be contradicting yourself (and also confusing me since I thought all-text guide signs were rare).

Quote from: roadguy2 on September 13, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Although it's not a distance sign, there is a newer sign on I-80 westbound near 700 East in SLC which reads "SLC Int'l Airport Use I-15 North" in all text. (Which is only funny because the best way to the airport from there is 201W to 215N to 80W.)

That's really the only time I see a route written out as text, although it's usually only with state routes, not interstates. It's also not so common anymore. Here's an example (https://goo.gl/tsvEi3) of a more recent "secondary" guide sign using a shield mid-sentence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 15, 2017, 04:26:37 PM
What's up with these red-on-white mile markers on the Inner Loop of the Capital Beltway (I-495) in MD?  I forgot about it until I passed them earlier today!  Here's an example of milepost 20.1:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9651518,-76.8677759,3a,15y,200.95h,85.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s35y1HR9hJlimV353TJ1wtQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There's also a strange mile marker I pass periodically on the Inner Loop of the Baltimore Beltway (I-695) that was recently installed.  Last I checked, GMSV hadn't caught up with the change yet...  Or at least I can't find it in GMSV.  Every time I drive by, I make a mental note of where it is and promptly forget, which doesn't help.  It has a letter!  Like MILE M19 or MILE L21 or something odd like that.  Fairly sure it's M19.  I know it's somewhere between I-795 and the exit for the Towson Mall.  So what's the deal with the letter in the milepost?  Also, there's a smaller 0L and 1L on some of the top of the mileposts on the Baltimore Beltway.  What's the significance of that?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 15, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
What about that "DUI ENFORCEMENT AREA" sign in your GMSV above tckma? Shouldn't all roads be considered  a DUI enforcement area?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 15, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on September 15, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
What about that "DUI ENFORCEMENT AREA" sign in your GMSV above tckma? Shouldn't all roads be considered  a DUI enforcement area?

Yeah.  I think it means doubled fines and increased police presence.  But I have no idea.  At least Virginia's "Safety Corridor" signage explicitly spells out the increased penalties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 15, 2017, 11:34:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 14, 2017, 06:09:47 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 13, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 12, 2017, 10:29:16 PM
Have any other new distance signs in Utah used all-text? I understand old signs using all text, but new signs? Still hard to believe any would be installed, even in states that have a plethora of old all-text signs.

AFAIK, no new distance signs are all text, all the new ones use the shields. Also, the shields which were put up after 2013 or so all have the state name.

So, what exactly were you getting at with your original reply? You seem to imply that all-text guide signs are the norm (but ^^this^^ indicates otherwise):

Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:47:34 AM
A typical sign would just say in plain text "JCT I-15".

Sorry to get nitpicky. You just seem to be contradicting yourself (and also confusing me since I thought all-text guide signs were rare).

Quote from: roadguy2 on September 13, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Although it's not a distance sign, there is a newer sign on I-80 westbound near 700 East in SLC which reads "SLC Int'l Airport Use I-15 North" in all text. (Which is only funny because the best way to the airport from there is 201W to 215N to 80W.)

That's really the only time I see a route written out as text, although it's usually only with state routes, not interstates. It's also not so common anymore. Here's an example (https://goo.gl/tsvEi3) of a more recent "secondary" guide sign using a shield mid-sentence.

My initial response was that most older signs have had the all-text version, so that is what I have been used to. All newer installations use the shields, but I still consider them a novelty, along with the Utah state named Interstate shields which have been installed consistently since 2013. Sorry for any confusion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 16, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on September 15, 2017, 05:22:17 PM
What about that "DUI ENFORCEMENT AREA" sign in your GMSV above tckma? Shouldn't all roads be considered  a DUI enforcement area?

I get the feeling those signs are placed in areas with a high number of DUI-related wrecks, or something that would trigger the possibility of a large number of drunk drivers -- bars nearby, concert venues or other event sites where people tend to drink a lot. Something has given law enforcement the idea that there might be more than the normal number of drunk drivers at that site, thus the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 16, 2017, 05:20:14 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)


I remember seeing an all-text CHURCH sign in Ohio back in the 80s.  That looks more like a gravestone than a church building.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 16, 2017, 05:36:16 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 16, 2017, 05:20:14 PM

I remember seeing an all-text CHURCH sign in Ohio back in the 80s.  That looks more like a gravestone than a church building.

I remember seeing Church possibly also Synagogue at one time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 16, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 05:36:16 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 16, 2017, 05:20:14 PM

I remember seeing an all-text CHURCH sign in Ohio back in the 80s.  That looks more like a gravestone than a church building.

I remember seeing Church possibly also Synagogue at one time.

Kentucky has used CHURCH diamond warning signs in the past. Now they'll typically use a "side road" sign with a "CHURCH" plate underneath it.

That particular sign looks like it was conceived by someone who considers baseball to be a religion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on September 16, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
There are tons of CHURCH signs in the midwest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 16, 2017, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)

That is the first time I have ever seen this sign. We have nothing but the all-text CHURCH signs around here....and LOTS of them!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 16, 2017, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 16, 2017, 07:06:53 PM


Kentucky has used CHURCH diamond warning signs in the past. Now they'll typically use a "side road" sign with a "CHURCH" plate underneath it.

That particular sign looks like it was conceived by someone who considers baseball to be a religion.

Well, Arkansas does worship at the altar of the big red pig ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on September 16, 2017, 09:05:27 PM
I saw these signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0225285,-76.4213263,3a,39.3y,76.03h,87.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s0PimfP1sPch35Hqoqmk4lQ!2e0) at the end of a road yesterday afternoon near Elbridge, NY.  I've never seen anything like it before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 16, 2017, 10:17:32 PM
Area Speed Limit signs are NYSDOT standard for custom speed zones:  there is one around Saratoga National Historical Park.  Occasionally I see the MUTCD-standard Speed Limit 55 sign used in lieu of State Speed Limit 55 (e.g., on NY 30 just south of Speculator), and I have wondered if this is intended as a signal that the road in question has actually been upgraded to handle the posted speed comfortably.  A State Speed Limit 55 sign is, in contrast, a de facto rural derestriction sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 16, 2017, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 16, 2017, 10:17:32 PM
A State Speed Limit 55 sign is, in contrast, a de facto rural derestriction sign.
Even this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1459481,-77.6006865,3a,75y,166.73h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSnyAKg-DY6ASN16PBoM9Cg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on September 17, 2017, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)

Advanced irregular pentagon ahead?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: xcellntbuy on September 17, 2017, 04:29:06 PM
Crossing home plate?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 17, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
Holy Wedges, Batman!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 17, 2017, 11:43:12 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)

That's because it's not in the MUTCD...

Not sure why somebody would go and make up this symbol, when a text "CHURCH" warning is easier to fabricate and likely more readily understood.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 17, 2017, 11:53:22 PM
What exactly is the purpose of a church sign, anyways? I've never seen the MUTCD-spec version (with text "CHURCH") in my life.

A better symbol would be the irregular polygon as-is, with the Latin-/Christian-cross placed on top of the roof (rather than within the "building"). Assuming the sign is necessary at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 18, 2017, 01:03:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2017, 11:53:22 PM
What exactly is the purpose of a church sign, anyways? I've never seen the MUTCD-spec version (with text "CHURCH") in my life.

A better symbol would be the irregular polygon as-is, with the Latin-/Christian-cross placed on top of the roof (rather than within the "building"). Assuming the sign is necessary at all.
I seem to recall that being the standard symbol for a church sign in Tennessee. Also, I'm pretty sure they were to warn of higher amounts of pedestrians in an area due to there being a church located there. A standard ped crossing sign works just as well, which is probably why the church sign was removed from the MUTCD, if I had to guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 18, 2017, 04:40:41 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 17, 2017, 11:53:22 PM
What exactly is the purpose of a church sign, anyways? I've never seen the MUTCD-spec version (with text "CHURCH") in my life.

A better symbol would be the irregular polygon as-is, with the Latin-/Christian-cross placed on top of the roof (rather than within the "building"). Assuming the sign is necessary at all.

Same reason for the text versions of HOSPITAL, NURSING HOME, PLANT ENTRANCE, TRUCK CROSSING (or entering, or entering & exiting highway)...warning you of possible slow moving traffic conditions.

Especially if you are in a new area, the CHURCH sign comes in handy when you are taking a Sunday drive. Any other day of the week it could be a wedding or funeral to watch out for.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 18, 2017, 05:50:25 AM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)

Caution: Papal Mitre
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 18, 2017, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: Michael on September 16, 2017, 09:05:27 PM
I saw these signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0225285,-76.4213263,3a,39.3y,76.03h,87.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s0PimfP1sPch35Hqoqmk4lQ!2e0) at the end of a road yesterday afternoon near Elbridge, NY.  I've never seen anything like it before.

When I panned left in that image I couldn't help but notice that low clearance sign (9'-6"!!)...even the Google vehicle wouldn't go down that street. Must be a hell of an underpass
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 18, 2017, 09:24:22 AM
There is also this
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2417/2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 18, 2017, 09:56:35 AM
^What's that red & yellow sign for? Is it supposed to increase the visibility of the children sign or something?

Also, while playing around on Google Maps in the area of Michael's Elbridge, NY example, I followed the railroad tracks east to the next street then south and saw this, another low clearance sign. This time it says "underpass" on a yellow diamond and has the measurements on a separate white sign below it (7'-6"!!!!!!)

https://goo.gl/maps/SsWYDdfAkFG2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 18, 2017, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 18, 2017, 09:24:22 AM
There is also this
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2417/2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg)

How many signs using u-channel posts have you ever seen concreted in the ground?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on September 18, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
Someone got too happy with clip art.
Also, the middle panel seems to be slightly detached due to Hurricane Irma.
(https://i.imgur.com/LoKjEtx.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on September 18, 2017, 09:07:11 PM
@JN: Having lived in NY all my life, I never thought the Area Speed Limit signs were weird.  I thought it was odd that they decided to use two double-arrow plaques to save the cost of two more signs and posts (one pair per direction).

@plain: I was riding with our college/young adult church group leader to an event in Syracuse.  He went down some back roads south of Elbridge to avoid the construction at NY 5 and Hamilton Rd.  We went under the bridge, and not only is it short, it's also one lane, in a dip, and on a curve!  Our leader has a daughter that works in Syracuse, and she won't go the way we went because she had a car half in her lane on a curve.  She's not sure what curve it was, but we assume it was the one under the bridge.  I told her I don't blame her for not going that way!  The bridge was pretty short, but in NY, state law requires low bridges to be posted one foot shorter than they actually are.  I wonder what the 7' 6" bridge is like!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on September 18, 2017, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: chays on September 18, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
Someone got too happy with clip art.
Also, the middle panel seems to be slightly detached due to Hurricane Irma.
(https://i.imgur.com/LoKjEtx.jpg)

I would consider this "worst of" worthy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on September 19, 2017, 12:25:46 AM
Quote from: US71 on September 16, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4349/37044573066_04559e6922_z_d.jpg)
I don't think I've seen this in the MUTCD (east of Pulaski, TN)

I've seen the warning signs with "CHURCH" spelled out on it, but I have never in my life seen anything like that.  :crazy:

It does look much more like a gravestone, and it also resembles something in relation to baseball.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on September 19, 2017, 12:30:08 AM
Quote from: chays on September 18, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
Someone got too happy with clip art.
Also, the middle panel seems to be slightly detached due to Hurricane Irma.
(https://i.imgur.com/LoKjEtx.jpg)

That reminds me of a certain something, but it doesn't even remotely compare to it in terms of how undeniably horrifying and absolutely hilarious it is. See here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13623.0

Quote from: jwolfer on October 04, 2014, 12:14:11 PM
This is a horrible version done by Putnam County on the southbound side of CR 315.. No attempt to even be remotely close to the real thing.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F14%2F10%2F04%2F174bc30d9c729e56f3f058b2a2fcc33c.jpg&hash=c5bd55971a3bc9300a0d05a95c06a41e77ab6797)

Fixed the image code. -rmf67

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 19, 2017, 09:01:38 PM
This one was always fun.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fimages%2Fspeedlimit65.jpg&hash=31f982ff28e1bf4f051c1d6d5b0d92d489696675)

Replaced long ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 20, 2017, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: Michael on September 18, 2017, 09:07:11 PM
@JN: Having lived in NY all my life, I never thought the Area Speed Limit signs were weird.  I thought it was odd that they decided to use two double-arrow plaques to save the cost of two more signs and posts (one pair per direction).

@plain: I was riding with our college/young adult church group leader to an event in Syracuse.  He went down some back roads south of Elbridge to avoid the construction at NY 5 and Hamilton Rd.  We went under the bridge, and not only is it short, it's also one lane, in a dip, and on a curve!  Our leader has a daughter that works in Syracuse, and she won't go the way we went because she had a car half in her lane on a curve.  She's not sure what curve it was, but we assume it was the one under the bridge.  I told her I don't blame her for not going that way!  The bridge was pretty short, but in NY, state law requires low bridges to be posted one foot shorter than they actually are.  I wonder what the 7' 6" bridge is like!

It looks like a short tunnel under the tracks. I'm definitely not too keen about driving under something like this after you described that other underpass. Here's the location, naturally there's no Street View here either

https://goo.gl/maps/RWYrrh4P5t42
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 20, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on September 19, 2017, 09:01:38 PM
This one was always fun.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fimages%2Fspeedlimit65.jpg&hash=31f982ff28e1bf4f051c1d6d5b0d92d489696675)

Replaced long ago.

No, that's wrong.  It's a weird quirk of NYS law; if the speed limit is not posted, it's 55.  Ergo "State Speed Limit 55" is only saying the default speed limit is what they chose.  I learned to drive in NYS in 1994-1996 -- after rural insterstates in NY got bumped up to 65 -- and that was what they said in the driver's manual.  "STATE SPEED LIMIT" should only appear on signage if it's followed by the number 55.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 20, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: tckma on September 20, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on September 19, 2017, 09:01:38 PM
This one was always fun.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fimages%2Fspeedlimit65.jpg&hash=31f982ff28e1bf4f051c1d6d5b0d92d489696675)

Replaced long ago.

No, that's wrong.  It's a weird quirk of NYS law; if the speed limit is not posted, it's 55.  Ergo "State Speed Limit 55" is only saying the default speed limit is what they chose.  I learned to drive in NYS in 1994-1996 -- after rural insterstates in NY got bumped up to 65 -- and that was what they said in the driver's manual.  "STATE SPEED LIMIT" should only appear on signage if it's followed by the number 55.
That photo could be photoshopped.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 20, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 20, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: tckma on September 20, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on September 19, 2017, 09:01:38 PM
This one was always fun.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fimages%2Fspeedlimit65.jpg&hash=31f982ff28e1bf4f051c1d6d5b0d92d489696675)

Replaced long ago.

No, that's wrong.  It's a weird quirk of NYS law; if the speed limit is not posted, it's 55.  Ergo "State Speed Limit 55" is only saying the default speed limit is what they chose.  I learned to drive in NYS in 1994-1996 -- after rural insterstates in NY got bumped up to 65 -- and that was what they said in the driver's manual.  "STATE SPEED LIMIT" should only appear on signage if it's followed by the number 55.
That photo could be photoshopped.

Totally not photoshopped. I took the photo back in 2003. It was on I-81 SB just south of Exit 35. I sent the photo into NYSDOT R3 and they replaced the sign within a week.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 20, 2017, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on September 20, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 20, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: tckma on September 20, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on September 19, 2017, 09:01:38 PM
This one was always fun.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fimages%2Fspeedlimit65.jpg&hash=31f982ff28e1bf4f051c1d6d5b0d92d489696675)

Replaced long ago.

No, that's wrong.  It's a weird quirk of NYS law; if the speed limit is not posted, it's 55.  Ergo "State Speed Limit 55" is only saying the default speed limit is what they chose.  I learned to drive in NYS in 1994-1996 -- after rural insterstates in NY got bumped up to 65 -- and that was what they said in the driver's manual.  "STATE SPEED LIMIT" should only appear on signage if it's followed by the number 55.
That photo could be photoshopped.

Totally not photoshopped. I took the photo back in 2003. It was on I-81 SB just south of Exit 35. I sent the photo into NYSDOT R3 and they replaced the sign within a week.
sorry
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 25, 2017, 11:49:56 AM
Sounds delicious!

(https://i.imgur.com/rpK9tW3.jpg)

Kidding aside, I have ONLY ever seen these signs in Pennsylvania.  What the HECK does "Fresh Oil and Chips" mean, anyway?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on September 25, 2017, 12:00:20 PM
My guess is they just got done with a chip & seal job
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on September 25, 2017, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on September 25, 2017, 11:49:56 AM
Sounds delicious!

(https://i.imgur.com/rpK9tW3.jpg)

Kidding aside, I have ONLY ever seen these signs in Pennsylvania.  What the HECK does "Fresh Oil and Chips" mean, anyway?

It sounds like a tasty British treat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on September 25, 2017, 10:44:37 PM
Quote from: csw on September 25, 2017, 12:00:20 PM
My guess is they just got done with a chip & seal job

You're correct. PennDOT loves to tar and chip rural low-volume roads and put these signs up post-construction. The process involves covering the road surface in asphalt sealer, then covering it with chipped stone, rolling over them, then finally sweeping off the excess aggregate. Unfortunately, it does not go well with tartar sauce...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 26, 2017, 10:58:47 AM
The oil in question is the binder.  I don't know if it is actually in the MUTCD (other than implicitly through the carve-out for custom word-message warning and regulatory signs), but many state DOTs sign for just "Fresh Oil."  For cars it is the chips that are really the hazard, though states like TxDOT that use chipseal on high-speed roads have specs that call for the chips to be rolled in and then swept up immediately afterward so that it is not necessary to impose a 20 mph speed limit to accommodate loose chips.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 26, 2017, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: csw on September 16, 2017, 07:15:20 PM
There are tons of CHURCH signs in the midwest.
They have them in other parts of the country too, like in New York.

If you're ever in Medford, New York on Middle Island Road, you used to find them within the vicinity of Mount Olive Baptist Church. You'll also find long lines of cars parked along the side that end up blocking regular traffic. Back in the day, there was a plan to add a housing complex nearby (specifically the "Medford Pond Luxury Apartments"), and most of my neighbors were against it because they thought it would attract drug-addicted minorities. I was against it because I thought the lot would've been better suited for a parking lot for that church.

Sorry for going OT, but I thought I should mention it since the subject was briefly Church signs.


Getting back to the topic, how common are those "Overheight Vehicle Detour" warning signs, like you used to see on I-95 in Lumberton, but still see south of Dunn?

http://aaroads.com/southeast/north_carolina095/thb/i-095_nb_exit_017_21.jpg


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 26, 2017, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 26, 2017, 10:58:47 AM
The oil in question is the binder.  I don't know if it is actually in the MUTCD (other than implicitly through the carve-out for custom word-message warning and regulatory signs), but many state DOTs sign for just "Fresh Oil."  For cars it is the chips that are really the hazard, though states like TxDOT that use chipseal on high-speed roads have specs that call for the chips to be rolled in and then swept up immediately afterward so that it is not necessary to impose a 20 mph speed limit to accommodate loose chips.

Many Louisiana parish highway departments leave the loose rocks on the road with no sweeping and leave the "fresh oil" and "loose gravel" signs up for months.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 26, 2017, 03:54:41 PM
I have never seen a chipseal warning sign (at least until this thread), nor a lower post-chipseal speed limit.

I don't see why you need a warning for oil. The chips are the annoying bit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 26, 2017, 03:54:41 PM
I don't see why you need a warning for oil.

I'm guessing the road surface gets a bit more slippery when wet; at least until the excess oil spreads out or disperses.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 26, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 26, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 26, 2017, 03:54:41 PM
I don't see why you need a warning for oil.

I'm guessing the road surface gets a bit more slippery when wet; at least until the excess oil spreads out or disperses.

You'd think the chips would provide enough traction to offset the slippery nature of the oil, but maybe not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 26, 2017, 06:39:40 PM
I think the FRESH OIL signs are for the road departments to legally protect them from anyone who may track tar and or oil onto the fenders, (etal) of their cars and want to sue for damages or for the cost of getting it off.

My area corner of Colorado usually will chip-seal a newly paved road about 1-3 years after the asphalt was applied, let the loose gravel get packed into the seal for 24-48 hours, suck up the remainder of the loose gravel, then add a coating of "fog-seal" (liquid asphalt ??) on top of the chip-seal.  Apparently, this extends the life of the roadway to around 10-12 years before they even consider to resurface the road again.

Generally I get pissed when they add "friction" to a recently paved road, but you get used to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on September 26, 2017, 09:36:56 PM
I am CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW supervising a paving job using prime oil.  It's an asphalt emulsion used to adhere the new layer of pavement to the existing payment, like glue.  It's sticky and impossible to get off of stuff, so when people drive through it, it sticks to the car and messes it up, although only cosmetically.  You wouldn't believe the number of complaints we get.  That's why we put up the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 26, 2017, 09:58:47 PM
Is an asphalt layer usually applied over top the chipseal? In my area, that seems to be rare. Most chipseal jobs are left as-is once finished.

Compare this street view of a road that was just chipsealed: https://goo.gl/bt2dHV

...to this street view three years later: https://goo.gl/RzsCga

The intersection, and several others, were covered in asphalt, but nothing else.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 26, 2017, 10:23:41 PM
Chipseal is normally supposed to be the top layer.  This webpage highlights a couple of problems that can occur with chipseal--bleeding (typically due to insufficient curing) when new, and flushing when old.

http://kleencoconstruction.com/news/identify-bleeding-flushing-asphalt/

The newer StreetView from Washington state appears to show flushing, which doesn't usually disturb the seal but compromises skid resistance.

And yes, you generally don't want asphalt emulsion of any kind on the exterior paint of a vehicle you care about--there is a reason detailers have bug and tar remover in their arsenals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 27, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Bad curve?

Found on Rhode Island 117 near Washington, RI:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/33167117792_0d00cc8c3c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SwS9Au)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 27, 2017, 09:48:36 PM
When pavement preservation projects go awry...

http://www.wymt.com/content/news/Vehicles-previously-coated-in-tar-now-being-cleaned-448325163.html

Some sort of chip seal work was being done here. Not sure if this was chip seal, slurry seal, cape seal or what type of work was underway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 28, 2017, 02:43:04 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 27, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Bad curve?

Found on Rhode Island 117 near Washington, RI:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/33167117792_0d00cc8c3c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SwS9Au)


Clearly the curve hung-out with the wrong crowd when growing up! :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 28, 2017, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 27, 2017, 09:48:36 PM
When pavement preservation projects go awry...

http://www.wymt.com/content/news/Vehicles-previously-coated-in-tar-now-being-cleaned-448325163.html

Some sort of chip seal work was being done here. Not sure if this was chip seal, slurry seal, cape seal or what type of work was underway.

Really?

QuoteNoyes also said the black tar getting stuck to the vehicles is an example as to why it's important, to put paint protection and paint sealant on your vehicle once a year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on September 28, 2017, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 28, 2017, 06:06:04 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 27, 2017, 09:48:36 PM
When pavement preservation projects go awry...

http://www.wymt.com/content/news/Vehicles-previously-coated-in-tar-now-being-cleaned-448325163.html

Some sort of chip seal work was being done here. Not sure if this was chip seal, slurry seal, cape seal or what type of work was underway.

Really?

QuoteNoyes also said the black tar getting stuck to the vehicles is an example as to why it's important, to put paint protection and paint sealant on your vehicle once a year.

I'd love to know what the protection and sealant is that I haven't been putting on my cars every year in the 20+ years I've owned one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 28, 2017, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 27, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Bad curve?

Found on Rhode Island 117 near Washington, RI:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/33167117792_0d00cc8c3c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SwS9Au)

Not to be confused with the other Michael Jackson-inspired "THRILLER CURVE" sign on the other side of town.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 28, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on September 28, 2017, 12:28:03 PMI'd love to know what the protection and sealant is that I haven't been putting on my cars every year in the 20+ years I've owned one.

Carnauba wax has protectant properties.  Detailers and serious car hobbyists use at minimum a two-stage process for detailing the painted finish--a polish followed by a real carnauba wax (think Mr. Miyagi and the Karate Kid:  wipe on, wipe off), not a single-stage product with a synthetic water-beading agent like NuFinish.  There are also paint sealers that some people apply to the fronts of their cars to address bugs as well as tar, though I have no first-hand information as to their effectiveness.  Leather bras have deservedly gone out of fashion, though I have seen some cars with clear film bras that are designed to protect against bugs, tar, and stone chips.  (I personally think they are more trouble than they are worth because they can lead to differential fading, there is typically a line across the hood where the clear film ends that gathers dirt and dust and looks ugly, and lifting them can damage the paint.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on September 29, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
I found this "Stop Before Crossing" sign in Cambridge, ON: https://goo.gl/maps/Nw5rQ2nQGtq (https://goo.gl/maps/Nw5rQ2nQGtq). Why not use a stop sign? :confused:

(https://i.imgur.com/NfoV5Oq.jpg)

I saw dozens of cars drive by and no one stopped for the railway tracks. But judging from how overgrown they are, I'm guessing they're out of commission, so it's not really necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 29, 2017, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on September 29, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
I found this "Stop Before Crossing" sign in Cambridge, ON: https://goo.gl/maps/Nw5rQ2nQGtq (https://goo.gl/maps/Nw5rQ2nQGtq). Why not use a stop sign? :confused:

https://i.imgur.com/NfoV5Oq.jpg

I saw dozens of cars drive by and no one stopped for the railway tracks. But judging from how overgrown they are, I'm guessing they're out of commission, so it's not really necessary.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a stop sign at a railway crossing in Canada before. At least not in BC. Not sure they're allowed. Perhaps the local municipality was worried about impacts so they worded the warning sign how they did to reduce liability. Lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on September 30, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
Here's a few photos taken today in (or around) Montreal, QC.

Black-on-white right-turn lane sign on Boulevard Des Sources at Boulevard Brunswick (instead of the usual white-on-black)
(https://i.imgur.com/0xwZiSn.jpg)

One large arrow shared for two autoroutes
(https://i.imgur.com/zQfKpOu.jpg)

Not really a sign, but Chemin Lucerne between Rue Jean-Talon Ouest and A-40 had these 40 km/h banners on the light posts to try and emphasize the slow speed limit.
(https://i.imgur.com/92OLLvg.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 01, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Look to the left over the yet-to-open I-75 express lanes near Weston, FL. Can't say I've ever seen this sort of thing on a BGS anywhere else.

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.1011334,-80.3605591,3a,75y,24.36h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCnDg1boXhnNZFUIXs4BviQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2017, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 01, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Look to the left over the yet-to-open I-75 express lanes near Weston, FL. Can't say I've ever seen this sort of thing on a BGS anywhere else.

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.1011334,-80.3605591,3a,75y,24.36h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCnDg1boXhnNZFUIXs4BviQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The bottom panel ought to be yellow instead of green, since the information is more of a warning than a guide.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on October 02, 2017, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 27, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Bad curve?

Found on Rhode Island 117 near Washington, RI:


Bad curve!  No biscuit!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 02, 2017, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on September 30, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
One large arrow shared for two autoroutes
(https://i.imgur.com/zQfKpOu.jpg)
Interesting, but I'm too easily distracted by the big Kraft sign and the digital mac and cheese. Is that some sort of factory or distributor there?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 03, 2017, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 02, 2017, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on September 30, 2017, 06:57:09 PM
One large arrow shared for two autoroutes
(https://i.imgur.com/zQfKpOu.jpg)
Interesting, but I'm too easily distracted by the big Kraft sign and the digital mac and cheese.

<BUZZ>  Oooh, i'm sorry...The correct answer in Canada is "Kraft Dinner", or "KD". Those Canooks think the Mac(aroni) and Cheese term is below them.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 03, 2017, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on October 03, 2017, 09:45:03 AM
<BUZZ>  Oooh, i'm sorry...The correct answer in Canada is "Kraft Dinner", or "KD". Those Canooks think the Mac(aroni) and Cheese term is below them.
Just be glad I didn't post with my second guess; A Kraft gas station/convenience store.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 06, 2017, 05:17:26 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4503/23685785528_7691f936e0_c.jpg) Inconsistent casing when FDOT decided to go along with Disney and their change of names for Downtown Disney now to Disney Springs.

You think they would align it all upward and use the blank space that once read World Drive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 06, 2017, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2017, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 01, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Look to the left over the yet-to-open I-75 express lanes near Weston, FL. Can't say I've ever seen this sort of thing on a BGS anywhere else.

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.1011334,-80.3605591,3a,75y,24.36h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCnDg1boXhnNZFUIXs4BviQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The bottom panel ought to be yellow instead of green, since the information is more of a warning than a guide.

Either way, I still can't think of any other sign of that sort above an Interstate-grade highway on which I've seen that sort of message.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on October 06, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
I've already talked myself out about this on Facebook. Maybe people here will enjoy it. Apologies if it's already been posted.
(https://i.imgur.com/wWS6x8s.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 07, 2017, 02:42:06 AM
^^
Nice! Love the creativity, although the spacing needs work.

Quote from: 1995hoo on October 06, 2017, 07:06:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2017, 08:47:43 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 01, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
Look to the left over the yet-to-open I-75 express lanes near Weston, FL. Can't say I've ever seen this sort of thing on a BGS anywhere else.

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.1011334,-80.3605591,3a,75y,24.36h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCnDg1boXhnNZFUIXs4BviQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The bottom panel ought to be yellow instead of green, since the information is more of a warning than a guide.

Either way, I still can't think of any other sign of that sort above an Interstate-grade highway on which I've seen that sort of message.

Definitely not a message I've seen before. I've seen various warnings on overhead signs (the most unique of which said "SLOW MOVING VEHICLES (https://goo.gl/QdZtW7)"), but nothing like the sign you posted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 07, 2017, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on October 06, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
I've already talked myself out about this on Facebook. Maybe people here will enjoy it. Apologies if it's already been posted.
(https://i.imgur.com/wWS6x8s.jpg?1)

Does the split occur between the two lanes?  Per the sign, both lanes are two the left of the split?  And that split should be a bit wider to clarify that it's truly a split.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on October 07, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 07, 2017, 07:53:49 AMDoes the split occur between the two lanes?  Per the sign, both lanes are two the left of the split?  And that split should be a bit wider to clarify that it's truly a split.

I dunno. What this sign tells me is that I need to beware of a WTF ahead.  :awesomeface:

(I'm getting my second wind...)

I'm more interested in the green part of the sign. with that two-headed arrow that bears no resemblance to anything found in the MUTCD. There's no reason why the US 69 split wouldn't have been adequately and accurately indicated by using straight arrows, with additional signage (visible beyond) at the split. I also surmised from the previous discussion that roadgeeks tend to be forgiving of serious design mistakes as long as the presentation looks good.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM
IMHO, it's an arrow that's needed though, if it's the middle green arrow that's the one that you're talking about. IMHO, it shows that a lane that exits is also an option lane for another exit right before it. It gives more accurate information to the drivers, so you're less likely to have people stay in that lane thinking it's a through lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 07, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
This is what the sign tells me...

Lane 5: Quivira Road SOUTH
Lane 4: Quivira Road NORTH and US-69
Lane 3: US-69 and I-435
Lane 2 and 1: I-435 with a brief median

Correct? Can't tell from GMaps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on October 07, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
This is what the sign tells me...

Lane 5: Quivira Road SOUTH
Lane 4: Quivira Road NORTH and US-69
Lane 3: US-69 and I-435
Lane 2 and 1: I-435 with a brief median

Correct? Can't tell from GMaps.

Having had plenty of time to study the sign, I would agree with this interpretation. On the fly at highway speed, though, I might be misled by the fact that the second head of the lane 4 arrow is pointing directly at "Quivira Road NORTH" and not at US 69.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 07, 2017, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: Eth on October 07, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
This is what the sign tells me...

Lane 5: Quivira Road SOUTH
Lane 4: Quivira Road NORTH and US-69
Lane 3: US-69 and I-435
Lane 2 and 1: I-435 with a brief median

Correct? Can't tell from GMaps.

Having had plenty of time to study the sign, I would agree with this interpretation. On the fly at highway speed, though, I might be misled by the fact that the second head of the lane 4 arrow is pointing directly at "Quivira Road NORTH" and not at US 69.

That is definite issue. My suggestion would be to remove the "EXIT" plaques (keep the "ONLY" plaques), scoot the right-most vertical divider over to the right, lower the "NORTH" and "SOUTH" messages down a bit (towards their respective arrows), and then finally, scoot the second-to-right vertical divider over so that it's just to the right of the taller curved arrow. Mostly MUTCD-spec at that point. Although the MUTCD is, arguably, the reason that people might have a hard time interpreting this sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 10, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
A sign for a donut shop in Lima, Ohio doing double-duty as a street name signpost.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/14696209@N02/37550489286/in/dateposted/

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 10, 2017, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 10, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
A sign for a donut shop in Lima, Ohio doing double-duty as a street name signpost.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/14696209@N02/37550489286/in/dateposted/

Zoom in...the street name signs are actually attached to a tall pole (akin to a street light pole) that is just behind the donut sign pole from this camera angle. You can see the metal pole top next to the donut.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on October 10, 2017, 11:04:06 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 10, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
A sign for a donut shop in Lima, Ohio doing double-duty as a street name signpost.

That kind of reminds me of this sign for a butcher shop in Manchester, MD -- also used to hold up a street blade sign:

https://goo.gl/maps/RRCqRJpAeAk
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 10, 2017, 11:38:08 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 27, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Bad curve?

Found on Rhode Island 117 near Washington, RI:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/33167117792_0d00cc8c3c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SwS9Au)

This is a curve that has stepped off the straight and narrow and needs to turn its life around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 10, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: roadfro on October 10, 2017, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 10, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
A sign for a donut shop in Lima, Ohio doing double-duty as a street name signpost.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/14696209@N02/37550489286/in/dateposted/

Zoom in...the street name signs are actually attached to a tall pole (akin to a street light pole) that is just behind the donut sign pole from this camera angle. You can see the metal pole top next to the donut.

Aww, crap!

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on October 13, 2017, 12:45:29 PM
A diagrammatic sign in Oklahoma! And it is actually good!

(https://m.imgur.com/a/sfpdk.png)

How does one imbed an imgur image here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 15, 2017, 10:35:59 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 13, 2017, 12:45:29 PM
How does one imbed an imgur image here?

The link you provided had an "m.imgur.com" URL -- only "imgur.com" should be included. Additionally, your link (the random string of letters and numbers after the last forward-slash) wasn't long enough. My photos are all 7 digits long.

Everything else about the link was correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on October 15, 2017, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 13, 2017, 12:45:29 PMHow does one imbed an imgur image here?

Hit the button that says, "BBCode (message boards & forums)." Doing so copies the correct link to your clipboard. Then paste it here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 16, 2017, 07:48:32 PM
What's going on here? Mount Desert Island, Maine.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4482/37723065001_c41ca1a4d5_z_d.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4485/37674935136_69ed912d94_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 16, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Yep.  That is what happens when your route is a small loop route. :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on October 17, 2017, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 29, 2017, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on September 29, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
I found this "Stop Before Crossing" sign in Cambridge, ON: https://goo.gl/maps/Nw5rQ2nQGtq (https://goo.gl/maps/Nw5rQ2nQGtq). Why not use a stop sign? :confused:

https://i.imgur.com/NfoV5Oq.jpg

I saw dozens of cars drive by and no one stopped for the railway tracks. But judging from how overgrown they are, I'm guessing they're out of commission, so it's not really necessary.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a stop sign at a railway crossing in Canada before. At least not in BC. Not sure they're allowed. Perhaps the local municipality was worried about impacts so they worded the warning sign how they did to reduce liability. Lol


It depends on the crossing. If the road and rail authorities feels going under stop control makes sense, they can implement that. Couple of examples:
Riverbank Lane, Grand Bay-Westfield, NB: https://goo.gl/maps/wW3Y72F9x1v
Mongomery Ave, Hawk Junction, ON: https://goo.gl/maps/WqXMrSKCn5B2
Kerr St, Vancouver, BC: https://goo.gl/maps/4UX5yBjzpT22

For the Stop Before Crossing warning sign, those are apparently fairly common around Southern Ontario on back roads where they meet unsignalized crossings.
https://goo.gl/maps/rbbCZGmaCr52
But I think you're right there, the road/rail authorities felt it was good to have a bit of warning to make sure they're covered while still keeping it legally under a yield condition.

edit:  When I was looking for examples of the stop control, a few that I was familiar with in Southern Ontario have recently been converted to the warning signs. Probably to reduce unnecessary stop signs while still maintaining providing enhanced warning to drivers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on October 17, 2017, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 16, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Yep.  That is what happens when your route is a small loop route. :D

ME 198's alignment is even stranger than ME 3's. Contiguous overlaps with 102 and 3, then a tiny stretch of non-overlapped route at the south end.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 17, 2017, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 16, 2017, 07:48:32 PM
What's going on here? Mount Desert Island, Maine.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4482/37723065001_c41ca1a4d5_z_d.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4485/37674935136_69ed912d94_z_d.jpg)
Some idiots might not know that it is a route.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 17, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
Ah, I did not realize that it did a full loop, or if I did, it didn't occur to me that directionality would be an issue, but of course it would.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on October 17, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
You can check out its odd routing on TM.

tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=me.me003 (http://tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=me.me003)

I am curious about the purpose of 3's concurrency north of Northeast Harbor with 198.  3 could end there and the route up to 102 could just be 198.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on October 18, 2017, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on October 17, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
Ah, I did not realize that it did a full loop, or if I did, it didn't occur to me that directionality would be an issue, but of course it would.

But then, why do we have directions on beltways?  "Inner Loop" and "Outer Loop" doesn't really solve the issue, and confuses me unless I think about it for a few minutes.  Also, there are roads that change directionality, such as MD-140 being signed north-south from Baltimore to roughly the end of I-795, but east-west from there to the Pennsylvania line (and that makes sense).

The Queen Elizabeth Way in Ontario, being a roughly C-shaped route, uses control cities for directional plates on reassurance markers -- Fort Erie, Niagara, Toronto -- I forget which others as I haven't been on that road in over ten years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on October 18, 2017, 10:18:53 AM
Quote from: Jim on October 17, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
You can check out its odd routing on TM.

tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=me.me003 (http://tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=me.me003)

I am curious about the purpose of 3's concurrency north of Northeast Harbor with 198.  3 could end there and the route up to 102 could just be 198.

Looks like directionality is only an issue south of Baaaaaa Haaaabaaaa.  Am I correct in the assumption that it's signed as a north-south route from Bar Harbor to Ellsworth, then as an east-west route from Ellsworth west?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cbeach40 on October 18, 2017, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: tckma on October 18, 2017, 10:16:46 AM
The Queen Elizabeth Way in Ontario, being a roughly C-shaped route, uses control cities for directional plates on reassurance markers -- Fort Erie, Niagara, Toronto -- I forget which others as I haven't been on that road in over ten years.

Toronto is used beginning to end when going Toronto bound. Fort Erie bound it goes Hamilton, Niagara (as far as Niagara Falls), Fort Erie.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on October 18, 2017, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: tckma on October 18, 2017, 10:18:53 AM
Quote from: Jim on October 17, 2017, 06:13:37 PM
You can check out its odd routing on TM.

tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=me.me003 (http://tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=me.me003)

I am curious about the purpose of 3's concurrency north of Northeast Harbor with 198.  3 could end there and the route up to 102 could just be 198.

Looks like directionality is only an issue south of Baaaaaa Haaaabaaaa.  Am I correct in the assumption that it's signed as a north-south route from Bar Harbor to Ellsworth, then as an east-west route from Ellsworth west?

Per GMSV it is signed E-W throughout.  There is even a ME 3 East shield on its ME 198 overlay when it is now heading northwest...

https://goo.gl/maps/hfFEV9TywZE2

Spot checking showed only ROUTE banners otherwise once it gets past the Otter Creek village area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 18, 2017, 10:58:20 AM
I can confirm that it is east-west north of Bar Harbor because there is an extensive 3 West detour going on there at the moment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 19, 2017, 10:12:01 PM
Somervell County (TX) Road 305:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4467/37545263910_79894a178b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZcKhUo)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on October 20, 2017, 12:44:20 AM
Saw a few of these Speed Table signs on a recent trip to Maui:
https://www.google.com/maps/@20.866044,-156.6737058,3a,75y,358.01h,75.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3eBVYBSrLyhlLetgNFn4cw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@20.866044,-156.6737058,3a,75y,358.01h,75.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3eBVYBSrLyhlLetgNFn4cw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 20, 2017, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 19, 2017, 10:12:01 PM
Somervell County (TX) Road 305:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4467/37545263910_79894a178b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZcKhUo)
Is it just me or is that sign unusually tall?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 20, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.
IIRC, the MUTCD says that they're supposed to be at least 7 feet up in areas where pedestrians are expected (or something like that). IMHO, I kinda like that CR shield better than the current pentagon, as a square one would probably be cheaper to produce for counties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 20, 2017, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 20, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.
IIRC, the MUTCD says that they're supposed to be at least 7 feet up in areas where pedestrians are expected (or something like that). IMHO, I kinda like that CR shield better than the current pentagon, as a square one would probably be cheaper to produce for counties.

Just look at my avatar on the left. This is what I grew up knowing what parish road shields were. Pentagons were always in other parishes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on October 20, 2017, 11:01:34 PM
I found this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5120399,-74.0695228,3a,18.1y,2.15h,97.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svKYD9G89bwRaduLwzdKxsw!2e0) while looking around last week on Street View.  Earlier this week, I stumbled on a photo of it from formulanone's Flickr page (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/31094768575/in/album-72157647503507648):
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5696/31094768575_4f14e778a3_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 21, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
Quote from: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.

That CR shield still seems kind of tall. This reassurance assembly (https://goo.gl/J4H55o) near me couldn't be more than 6 or 7 feet up.

Maybe the shield is just a little small, so it's an illusion?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 21, 2017, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 20, 2017, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 19, 2017, 10:12:01 PM
Somervell County (TX) Road 305:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4467/37545263910_79894a178b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZcKhUo)

Is it just me or is that sign unusually tall?

Quote from: jakeroot on October 21, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
Quote from: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.

That CR shield still seems kind of tall. This reassurance assembly (https://goo.gl/J4H55o) near me couldn't be more than 6 or 7 feet up.

Maybe the shield is just a little small, so it's an illusion?

It really was a bit too tall, especially for a local road off another minor road.

Found it tricky to compose with a 55mm lens.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 21, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.
Then evidently NYSDOT Region #10 didn't get that memo, because I often used to hit my head on the northbound divided highway warning sign on NY 112 just before that road approached the Long Island Expressway... and I've been barely six feet since I was 21.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 22, 2017, 07:18:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 21, 2017, 06:18:23 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 20, 2017, 09:15:14 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 19, 2017, 10:12:01 PM
Somervell County (TX) Road 305:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4467/37545263910_79894a178b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZcKhUo)

Is it just me or is that sign unusually tall?

Quote from: jakeroot on October 21, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
Quote from: csw on October 20, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Most signs are taller than they seem from the road, but when you get up close, you realize they can be a good 8-10 feet in the air.

That CR shield still seems kind of tall. This reassurance assembly (https://goo.gl/J4H55o) near me couldn't be more than 6 or 7 feet up.

Maybe the shield is just a little small, so it's an illusion?

It really was a bit too tall, especially for a local road off another minor road.

Found it tricky to compose with a 55mm lens.

And the shield is mounted on a pole (in my mind this is done for signs at interstate interchanges) instead of a "standard" u-channel sign post. That also makes this unique to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on October 22, 2017, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 22, 2017, 07:18:31 AMAnd the shield is mounted on a pole (in my mind this is done for signs at interstate interchanges) instead of a "standard" u-channel sign post. That also makes this unique to me.

It's so tall that a strong wind might bend a U channel.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 22, 2017, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on October 22, 2017, 08:55:10 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 22, 2017, 07:18:31 AMAnd the shield is mounted on a pole (in my mind this is done for signs at interstate interchanges) instead of a "standard" u-channel sign post. That also makes this unique to me.

It's so tall that a strong wind might bend a U channel.  :bigass:

Here's a similar sign just up the road -->  https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2632755,-97.7013916,3a,20.1y,346.34h,86.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2DBABke09I2Uh0mMx-Q1rw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's kind of odd to find anything but pole-mounted posts or "goal posts" for route signage in Texas, except the odd county road signs, where U-channels are more common.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8714/28519553166_1101065628_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KsbaxU)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7471/15662247869_26491fa5b4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pS27Cn)

Lavaca County had some square-channel posts, something you see a lot in Georgia:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5609/31310587806_e69f56b926_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PGNWUN)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

I wonder if they figured the novelty of the sign would encourage compliance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

I wonder if they figured the novelty of the sign would encourage compliance.

Certainly possible. Although I'm not sure how many people knowingly blow through red lights.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 23, 2017, 04:34:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

In fact, most of the time when there's a need for temporary automated traffic control, I've seen portable traffic signal trailers put into service.

(https://i.imgur.com/NgAvhEF.jpg)

(KDOT example)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on October 23, 2017, 08:49:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 23, 2017, 04:34:52 AM
In fact, most of the time when there's a need for temporary automated traffic control, I've seen portable traffic signal trailers put into service.

Yep, this is what I've seen for at least the last few years in both Iowa and Minnesota. Here's one I came across last Wednesday (10/18) at the Iowa 92 bridge across the Des Moines River.

(https://i.imgur.com/B7xoC0G.jpg)

P.S. It's kind of unnerving to be the front vehicle at the signal before the in-use lane at one of these. (As in the above picture.) All it takes is one inattentive driver to plow right into you, head-on. :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

I wonder if they figured the novelty of the sign would encourage compliance.

Certainly possible. Although I'm not sure how many people knowingly blow through red lights.

At small bridge replacements in the middle of nowhere, where visibility of oncoming traffic is excellent, I've seen plenty of people blow through the temporary red light.  Heck, I've done it myself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

I wonder if they figured the novelty of the sign would encourage compliance.

Certainly possible. Although I'm not sure how many people knowingly blow through red lights.

At small bridge replacements in the middle of nowhere, where visibility of oncoming traffic is excellent, I've seen plenty of people blow through the temporary red light.  Heck, I've done it myself.

Sounds like a chicane setup. Depending on the physical length of the closure, and the amount of traffic, I'm surprised they wouldn't just post "yield to oncoming traffic". I'd probably go through a red light in that situation myself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

I wonder if they figured the novelty of the sign would encourage compliance.

Certainly possible. Although I'm not sure how many people knowingly blow through red lights.

At small bridge replacements in the middle of nowhere, where visibility of oncoming traffic is excellent, I've seen plenty of people blow through the temporary red light.  Heck, I've done it myself.

Sounds like a chicane setup. Depending on the physical length of the closure, and the amount of traffic, I'm surprised they wouldn't just post "yield to oncoming traffic". I'd probably go through a red light in that situation myself.

In the past, I used to see this kind of setup with a Yield sign at both approaches.  I can understand an agency preferring to avoid that kind of ambiguity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
I was poking around GSV and found this interesting street blade thing (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Reagan,+TN+38368/@35.5218256,-88.3427763,3a,35.9y,292.24h,73.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.492947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x887c42c2b30df461:0x569263b0f6e0ec80!8m2!3d35.52174!4d-88.3425424) in Reagan, TN. Seem to be a bunch of them around Reagan. Any idea why places would use these difficult-to-read signs?

Leon, Kansas, apparently uses a cheaper version of this setup.  I was there with my family during the town's recent Harvest Home Festival (my wife had a Scentsy vendor booth), and I noticed the town uses PVC pipe filled with concrete.  As you can see in the linked GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/9RLCnGprdSM2), the letters can and do fall off.  It appears they must have replaced these old stones (https://goo.gl/maps/EhB8v3p5LdP2), which I don't recall seeing during my time there recently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 23, 2017, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
I was poking around GSV and found this interesting street blade thing (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Reagan,+TN+38368/@35.5218256,-88.3427763,3a,35.9y,292.24h,73.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.492947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x887c42c2b30df461:0x569263b0f6e0ec80!8m2!3d35.52174!4d-88.3425424) in Reagan, TN. Seem to be a bunch of them around Reagan. Any idea why places would use these difficult-to-read signs?

Leon, Kansas, apparently uses a cheaper version of this setup.  I was there with my family during the town's recent Harvest Home Festival (my wife had a Scentsy vendor booth), and I noticed the town uses PVC pipe filled with concrete.  As you can see in the linked GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/9RLCnGprdSM2), the letters can and do fall off.  It appears they must have replaced these old stones (https://goo.gl/maps/EhB8v3p5LdP2), which I don't recall seeing during my time there recently.

My guess is the town didn't have much of a budget for better street blades. I think it's not a good solution, due to the problems stated above as well as the fact that most people wouldn't realize that it was a street sign. If I saw these (especially the PVC pipes), I would assume they were some kind of utility post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 24, 2017, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 23, 2017, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
I was poking around GSV and found this interesting street blade thing (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Reagan,+TN+38368/@35.5218256,-88.3427763,3a,35.9y,292.24h,73.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.492947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x887c42c2b30df461:0x569263b0f6e0ec80!8m2!3d35.52174!4d-88.3425424) in Reagan, TN. Seem to be a bunch of them around Reagan. Any idea why places would use these difficult-to-read signs?

Leon, Kansas, apparently uses a cheaper version of this setup.  I was there with my family during the town's recent Harvest Home Festival (my wife had a Scentsy vendor booth), and I noticed the town uses PVC pipe filled with concrete.  As you can see in the linked GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/9RLCnGprdSM2), the letters can and do fall off.  It appears they must have replaced these old stones (https://goo.gl/maps/EhB8v3p5LdP2), which I don't recall seeing during my time there recently.

My guess is the town didn't have much of a budget for better street blades. I think it's not a good solution, due to the problems stated above as well as the fact that most people wouldn't realize that it was a street sign. If I saw these (especially the PVC pipes), I would assume they were some kind of utility post.

OTOH, something is better than nothing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 24, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 24, 2017, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 23, 2017, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: cl94 on October 24, 2016, 10:32:28 PM
I was poking around GSV and found this interesting street blade thing (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Reagan,+TN+38368/@35.5218256,-88.3427763,3a,35.9y,292.24h,73.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1scQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DcQosgstt2zdiMi8qm-KwOw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.492947%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x887c42c2b30df461:0x569263b0f6e0ec80!8m2!3d35.52174!4d-88.3425424) in Reagan, TN. Seem to be a bunch of them around Reagan. Any idea why places would use these difficult-to-read signs?

Leon, Kansas, apparently uses a cheaper version of this setup.  I was there with my family during the town's recent Harvest Home Festival (my wife had a Scentsy vendor booth), and I noticed the town uses PVC pipe filled with concrete.  As you can see in the linked GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/9RLCnGprdSM2), the letters can and do fall off.  It appears they must have replaced these old stones (https://goo.gl/maps/EhB8v3p5LdP2), which I don't recall seeing during my time there recently.

My guess is the town didn't have much of a budget for better street blades. I think it's not a good solution, due to the problems stated above as well as the fact that most people wouldn't realize that it was a street sign. If I saw these (especially the PVC pipes), I would assume they were some kind of utility post.

OTOH, something is better than nothing.
I agree. Try driving around Dora, AL sometime. The town doesn't have a single street blade, it seems.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on October 25, 2017, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 23, 2017, 08:49:34 AM

Yep, this is what I've seen for at least the last few years in both Iowa and Minnesota. Here's one I came across last Wednesday (10/18) at the Iowa 92 bridge across the Des Moines River.

(https://i.imgur.com/B7xoC0G.jpg)

P.S. It's kind of unnerving to be the front vehicle at the signal before the in-use lane at one of these. (As in the above picture.) All it takes is one inattentive driver to plow right into you, head-on. :ded:

ive always wondered how they fold those up, the mechanism must be pretty complicated...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 25, 2017, 06:49:25 PM
This is the kind of temporary signal I keep seeing pop up around my area. For some reason, they all have all-yellow backplates and cutaway visors, so they definitely stick out compared to other signals in the area:

(https://i.imgur.com/cnGli3T.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on October 26, 2017, 03:52:01 PM
Along the Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) southbound in Berlin, CT. I swear the sign is from 1990, when CT Route 9 opened from that junction east to I-91 in Cromwell.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZMIxZch.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 26, 2017, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 23, 2017, 04:34:52 AM
In fact, most of the time when there's a need for temporary automated traffic control, I've seen portable traffic signal trailers put into service.

(https://i.imgur.com/NgAvhEF.jpg)

(KDOT example)
I remember seeing those when FDOT was widening SR 54. I'm sorry I never had the chance to take a picture of the thing... or at least a good picture.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 26, 2017, 05:19:54 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 26, 2017, 03:52:01 PM
Along the Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) southbound in Berlin, CT. I swear the sign is from 1990, when CT Route 9 opened from that junction east to I-91 in Cromwell.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZMIxZch.jpg)

That's lovely. I haven't been through Connecticut for a long time, but I seem to recall a lot of remaining button copy. They were one of the last states to switch to E(M) sans button copy, right? (along with AZ, OH, CA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on October 26, 2017, 05:32:11 PM
The junction sign for CT 9 and CT 372 after this has no button copy. The state route shields are simple white squares with no black borders. I don't know what E(M) is...the reflective material more recent signs have?

(https://i.imgur.com/YqjgmEI.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 26, 2017, 05:47:40 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on October 26, 2017, 05:32:11 PM
I don't know what E(M) is...the reflective material more recent signs have?

E(M) meaning Highway Gothic Series E(M), the typeface used for many messages on highway signs (and the typeface that was replaced by Clearview in many states).

Because someone is bound to point it out, E(M) is actually the typeface invented to accommodate button copy, but states continued to use it because it was found to be more legible than regular Series E in all caps, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 26, 2017, 06:05:44 PM
That, and E(M) was the only FHWA font to include lower-case letters until the 21st century.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Takumi on October 26, 2017, 06:08:58 PM
I've never seen those temporary traffic signal things. Around here the temporary signals I've seen have been set up with span wire.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on October 26, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 04:22:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 23, 2017, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 23, 2017, 02:27:21 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 22, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2017, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 21, 2017, 08:15:48 PM
I just saw this cool automated flagger sign (https://imgur.com/gallery/sixBN) on Imgur.

That seems needlessly complicated, when they could have just used traffic signals.

I wonder if they figured the novelty of the sign would encourage compliance.

Certainly possible. Although I'm not sure how many people knowingly blow through red lights.

At small bridge replacements in the middle of nowhere, where visibility of oncoming traffic is excellent, I've seen plenty of people blow through the temporary red light.  Heck, I've done it myself.

Sounds like a chicane setup. Depending on the physical length of the closure, and the amount of traffic, I'm surprised they wouldn't just post "yield to oncoming traffic". I'd probably go through a red light in that situation myself.

In the past, I used to see this kind of setup with a Yield sign at both approaches.  I can understand an agency preferring to avoid that kind of ambiguity.

Connecticut has had one with stop signs on each side, and signs noting that 3 vehicles at a time could go through in a cluster. Don't know if they still use it, as I saw it about a decade ago on US 44 somewhere between Hartford and I-395. It seemed like a recipe for disaster in that it expected way too much faith in the driving public to not screw it up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 26, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on October 26, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Connecticut has had one with stop signs on each side, and signs noting that 3 vehicles at a time could go through in a cluster. Don't know if they still use it, as I saw it about a decade ago on US 44 somewhere between Hartford and I-395. It seemed like a recipe for disaster in that it expected way too much faith in the driving public to not screw it up.

Yes, judging by their behavior at 4-way stop signs, counting to 3 is way beyond the capability of most drivers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Truvelo on October 27, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
What's all this about? The 56/412 shield doesn't look right.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus56.jpg&hash=38bbf02174691ccd71cebdb90d3b566b41949a17)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 27, 2017, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on October 27, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
What's all this about? The 56/412 shield doesn't look right.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus56.jpg&hash=38bbf02174691ccd71cebdb90d3b566b41949a17)

New Mexico is well known for nonstandard and poor signage. On usends's web site usends.com (http://usends.com), he has several pictures of these awful signs. Here are a couple more from his site:

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/329959080_orig.jpg)

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/to56from25-min_orig.jpg)
(from usends.com)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 27, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 27, 2017, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on October 27, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
What's all this about? The 56/412 shield doesn't look right.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus56.jpg&hash=38bbf02174691ccd71cebdb90d3b566b41949a17)

New Mexico is well known for nonstandard and poor signage. On usends's web site usends.com (http://usends.com), he has several pictures of these awful signs. Here are a couple more from his site:

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/329959080_orig.jpg)

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/to56from25-min_orig.jpg)
(from usends.com)
New Mexico's way of signing like NJ and their 1-9 or 1 & 9. 

Orlando has one for US 17 & 92 in the Simon Mall property of the Florida Mall.  Also Atlantic County has (or had one) inside the Egg Harbor Circle near ACY in NJ for US 40 and 322.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 27, 2017, 07:33:28 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/37265972874/in/dateposted-public/
Here is one that is odd.  The TO shield for US 41 South on the right.  Not only is it not going TO, but look at the assembly to the left.

Both signs installed as part of the same project, most likely by the same contractor too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 27, 2017, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 27, 2017, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on October 27, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
What's all this about? The 56/412 shield doesn't look right.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus56.jpg&hash=38bbf02174691ccd71cebdb90d3b566b41949a17)

New Mexico is well known for nonstandard and poor signage. On usends's web site usends.com (http://usends.com), he has several pictures of these awful signs. Here are a couple more from his site:

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/329959080_orig.jpg)

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/to56from25-min_orig.jpg)
(from usends.com)
Well, the 62 180 285 sign is efficient.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 28, 2017, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: Truvelo on October 27, 2017, 06:50:46 PMWhat's all this about? The 56/412 shield doesn't look right.

What it is all about is weird and wonderful New Mexico signing.  There should be (or at any rate used to be) at least one US route shield with all three designations (56, 64, 412) stacked on top of each other.

This creativity originates from the NMDOT sign shop since very little small signing is contracted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Truvelo on October 28, 2017, 03:06:17 PM
It's not just the stacking but also the numbers in the top shield are rather small. With numbers that small there would be space for all three routes to appear in one shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 28, 2017, 09:27:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 27, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on October 27, 2017, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on October 27, 2017, 06:50:46 PM
What's all this about? The 56/412 shield doesn't look right.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus56.jpg&hash=38bbf02174691ccd71cebdb90d3b566b41949a17)

New Mexico is well known for nonstandard and poor signage. On usends's web site usends.com (http://usends.com), he has several pictures of these awful signs. Here are a couple more from his site:

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/329959080_orig.jpg)

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/to56from25-min_orig.jpg)
(from usends.com)
New Mexico's way of signing like NJ and their 1-9 or 1 & 9. 

Orlando has one for US 17 & 92 in the Simon Mall property of the Florida Mall.  Also Atlantic County has (or had one) inside the Egg Harbor Circle near ACY in NJ for US 40 and 322.
Wait, why does it look like 285 gets priority?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 02, 2017, 02:23:46 PM
To update the Connecticut JCT 9/372 I posted a while back...Yes, a shop sticker on the sign's back side was punched as October 1990 in the lower left corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZMIxZch.jpg)

This sign is a few hundred feet south, at the corner of Worthington Ridge (unsigned CT Route 572) in Berlin, CT.
(https://i.imgur.com/YqjgmEI.jpg)

(The BGS that's way in the back reads CT 9 SOUTH - MIDDLETOWN - 1/2 MILE.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on November 02, 2017, 06:21:58 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on November 02, 2017, 02:23:46 PM
To update the Connecticut JCT 9/372 I posted a while back...Yes, a shop sticker on the sign's back side was punched as October 1990 in the lower left corner.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZMIxZch.jpg)

This sign is a few hundred feet south, at the corner of Worthington Ridge (unsigned CT Route 572) in Berlin, CT.
(https://i.imgur.com/YqjgmEI.jpg)

(The BGS that's way in the back reads CT 9 SOUTH - MIDDLETOWN - 1/2 MILE.)
What is weird about that second sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 02, 2017, 09:21:54 PM
Nothing weird about it...just wondered if it was posted at the same time as the first one? I didn't think to check the back of that sign. I was just amazed the sticker wasn't 100% faded on the back of the JCT 9/372 sign, as it faces south.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 02, 2017, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 02, 2017, 06:21:58 PM
What is weird about that second sign?

This thread is all-encompassing. Unless there's an error with the design or information, and assuming some part of the sign is unique (or "weird"), it goes here. Good, bad, and ugly. Everything.

There's another thread for best-of, as well as worst-of, but those threads are only for the extremes. Everything else that might be somewhere else on the best-to-worst spectrum should go here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Right on Red on November 07, 2017, 10:07:28 PM
Apparently from Nebraska. Probably a joke or marketing campaign. Though the font makes me think whoever designed this thing clearly knew what they were doing.
(https://i.redd.it/jcq1085tblwz.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 08, 2017, 09:45:29 PM
Quote from: Right on Red on November 07, 2017, 10:07:28 PM
Apparently from Nebraska. Probably a joke or marketing campaign. Though the font makes me think whoever designed this thing clearly knew what they were doing.
(https://i.redd.it/jcq1085tblwz.jpg)

Looks like something by Signs From the Near Future (http://signsfromthenearfuture.tumblr.com/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on November 08, 2017, 10:24:35 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on November 02, 2017, 09:21:54 PM
Nothing weird about it...just wondered if it was posted at the same time as the first one? I didn't think to check the back of that sign. I was just amazed the sticker wasn't 100% faded on the back of the JCT 9/372 sign, as it faces south.
The first one dates to the extension of CT 9 to CT 72, completed in and around 1990-1993.  New Britain is a haven for old signs.  So is Middletown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 09, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23467190_10155657807531469_7418996956062811742_o.jpg?oh=e14f3b364146612505da7f49a003e49d&oe=5A6CC029)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JJBers on November 12, 2017, 12:41:19 AM
There's no real problem, but the exit tab has been replaced by "DOWNTOWN"
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/38348456901_907ae9683f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21qHScp)
CT 2 (https://flic.kr/p/21qHScp) by JJBers (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjbers/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on November 12, 2017, 12:42:47 AM
Quote from: JJBers on November 12, 2017, 12:41:19 AM
There's no real problem, but the exit tab has been replaced by "DOWNTOWN"
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/38348456901_907ae9683f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21qHScp)
CT 2 (https://flic.kr/p/21qHScp) by JJBers (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjbers/), on Flickr
What does the downtown word mean?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 01:29:22 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on November 12, 2017, 12:42:47 AM
Quote from: JJBers on November 12, 2017, 12:41:19 AM
There's no real problem, but the exit tab has been replaced by "DOWNTOWN"

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/38348456901_907ae9683f_z.jpg

What does the downtown word mean?

I think it's safe to assume that it means "Downtown -- use Governor St".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on November 12, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)

Couldn't someone interpret that as yield (then go), even when the signal is red?   :-o
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on November 12, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on November 12, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)

Couldn't someone interpret that as yield (then go), even when the signal is red?   :-o

Try that out on the judge and let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 12, 2017, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 12, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on November 12, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)

Couldn’t someone interpret that as yield (then go), even when the signal is red?   :-o

Try that out on the judge and let us know how it goes.

Well, if you have a good enough lawyer...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 12, 2017, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 12, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on November 12, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)

Couldn't someone interpret that as yield (then go), even when the signal is red?   :-o

Try that out on the judge and let us know how it goes.

Well, if you have a good enough lawyer...

Not any more ambiguous than "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on November 13, 2017, 09:44:07 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 12, 2017, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 12, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on November 12, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)

Couldn't someone interpret that as yield (then go), even when the signal is red?   :-o

Try that out on the judge and let us know how it goes.

Well, if you have a good enough lawyer...

Not any more ambiguous than "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD".
Yes, that sign usually has more text with it, such as ON green ball or some other qualifier. My initial reaction was to interpret the other sign as I may go on red as it seems they would have used the standard sign if I just had to yield on a green ball. Just as when I encounter a yield sign on the corner of my right turn with a signal, I interpret that as overriding the red ball and I don't have to stop on red to make a right as long as I yield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 13, 2017, 09:00:19 PM
Fort Smith, NWT is erecting some four-language signs:

(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4395807.1510262424!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/fort-smith-stop-sign.jpg)

Story:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/street-signs-fort-smith-1.4394754

Quote"Stop" will be written in four languages: English, French, Cree and Chipewyan.

Community leaders are looking to expand on that idea and add Indigenous languages to other projects.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2017, 11:03:11 PM
In other news, no one can read road signs anymore, because the information is repeated four times and is thusly four-times smaller than usual.

Canada has great symbol signs. They ought to expand on them in the multi-lingual areas. Perhaps a stop sign with a "HALT" hand?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fclipartview.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2Fhand-stop-sign-clipart.jpg&hash=c54d6e1d35829ee79361c60350e725cf8973054a)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2017, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2017, 11:03:11 PM
In other news, no one can read road signs anymore, because the information is repeated four times and is thusly four-times smaller than usual.

Canada has great symbol signs. They ought to expand on them in the multi-lingual areas. Perhaps a stop sign with a "HALT" hand?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fclipartview.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2Fhand-stop-sign-clipart.jpg&hash=c54d6e1d35829ee79361c60350e725cf8973054a)

How about no wording at all? Works for the YIELD and DO NOT ENTER (except BC) signs. The octagon is an internationally recognized symbol, so it's not like people from other countries won't know what it means.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2017, 11:19:37 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on November 13, 2017, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2017, 11:03:11 PM
In other news, no one can read road signs anymore, because the information is repeated four times and is thusly four-times smaller than usual.

Canada has great symbol signs. They ought to expand on them in the multi-lingual areas. Perhaps a stop sign with a "HALT" hand?

http://clipartview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/hand-stop-sign-clipart.jpg

How about no wording at all? Works for the YIELD and DO NOT ENTER (except BC) signs. The octagon is an internationally recognized symbol, so it's not like people from other countries won't know what it means.

More unconventional than you might imagine. The vast majority, if not all countries have some sort of message in the middle of the octagon. It's the definition of redundant, but it does seem to do a good job of reinforcing the meaning. Regardless, I'd be okay with getting rid of the "STOP" message in favor of either no message, or a "HALT" hand. Not a big fan of text+symbol if the symbol is well-designed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2017, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on November 13, 2017, 09:44:07 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 12, 2017, 12:58:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on November 12, 2017, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on November 12, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2017, 02:05:19 AM
https://goo.gl/vSar1Z -- all three left turns at this intersection have this same sign. I have driven through this intersection to visit the nearby A&W more times than I can count. I never noticed the sign before. Vancouver doesn't post many supplementary signs about what to do at left turn yield situations, but when they do, it's usually the same sign as the one in the US ("LEFT TURN YIELD ON GREEN").

(https://i.imgur.com/OKdk4gX.png)

Couldn't someone interpret that as yield (then go), even when the signal is red?   :-o

Try that out on the judge and let us know how it goes.

Well, if you have a good enough lawyer...

Not any more ambiguous than "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD".

Yes, that sign usually has more text with it, such as ON green ball or some other qualifier. My initial reaction was to interpret the other sign as I may go on red as it seems they would have used the standard sign if I just had to yield on a green ball. Just as when I encounter a yield sign on the corner of my right turn with a signal, I interpret that as overriding the red ball and I don't have to stop on red to make a right as long as I yield.

"Left turn must yield" signs aren't particularly common in my area of Washington State. Most green-ball-only left turns don't have any supplementary signage. Oregon uses the sign a lot, though.

Keep in mind that, in Canada, there is no standard supplementary sign for left turns. BC goes "above and beyond", installing informative variations of "yield on green" at some left turns (this is one example (https://goo.gl/YzQs1A)). Most seem to be taken straight from the MUTCD (nothing new in British Columbia). Most drivers in Canada don't, from my experience, approach an intersection, and look for signage instructing them what to do. I would imagine that only maybe 1 out of 20 drivers approaching this left turn even notice the sign. Americans might be thrown off by the sign, because it's non-standard compared to what we're used to. But it's just another variation up north, (probably) just as legally binding as the rest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 16, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
While MassDOT & it predecessors still allow for routes to be spelled out in text in legends (i.e. TO RTE. XX rather than TO plus the route shield); this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6684069,-71.1193255,3a,75y,151.04h,66.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6Xbj0jgjjG6os6uKD5UbRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and its lead-ins are the few that still does such for an Interstate route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on November 16, 2017, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 16, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
While MassDOT & it predecessors still allow for routes to be spelled out in text in legends (i.e. TO RTE. XX rather than TO plus the route shield); this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6684069,-71.1193255,3a,75y,151.04h,66.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6Xbj0jgjjG6os6uKD5UbRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and its lead-ins are the few that still does such for an Interstate route.

Are Mass's Paddle Signs subject to the same national regulations as BGS's?  I love the paddle signs, but they're seemingly unique to Massachusetts and New Hampshire.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 16, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: tckma on November 16, 2017, 12:44:22 PMAre Mass's Paddle Signs subject to the same national regulations as BGS's?  I love the paddle signs, but they're seemingly unique to Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

Yes and no.  The paddle signs are formally D-series signs (D6 and D8 series, to be precise) and are subject to most of the criteria listed in the conventional-road guide signing chapter in the federal MUTCD.  However, the Massachusetts MUTCD supplement has certain carve-outs concerning them.  They are not required to have mixed-case destination legend, for example (e.g., contract 607495 will install new paddle signs with all-uppercase destinations, while contract 608554 will install new paddle signs with mixed-case destinations).

The paddle sign bible is here:

http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/highway/Departments/TrafficandSafetyEngineering/PoliciesandDesignGuidelines/GuideSignPolicyforSecondaryStateHighways.aspx
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 17, 2017, 03:15:55 AM
I was down in Olympia, Washington just today. I was on the 101, merging onto I-5. I was looking for the END sign, which I found, but something about the shield doesn't look right. Is the "US" text supposed to go above the number? I'm used to seeing the shield without "US" above the number, but I can't remember if that's an old practice that somehow made its way onto a new-ish (<5 years old) marker, or if it's one of those optional additions.

https://goo.gl/sxaT2z

(https://i.imgur.com/3HDJHVp.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 17, 2017, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 17, 2017, 03:15:55 AM
I was down in Olympia, Washington just today. I was on the 101, merging onto I-5. I was looking for the END sign, which I found, but something about the shield doesn't look right. Is the "US" text supposed to go above the number? I'm used to seeing the shield without "US" above the number, but I can't remember if that's an old practice that somehow made its way onto a new-ish (<5 years old) marker, or if it's one of those optional additions.

https://goo.gl/sxaT2z

(https://i.imgur.com/3HDJHVp.png)
I'm guessing they wanted to mimic an older US Route shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 17, 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on November 16, 2017, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: tckma on November 16, 2017, 12:44:22 PMAre Mass's Paddle Signs subject to the same national regulations as BGS's?  I love the paddle signs, but they're seemingly unique to Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

Yes and no.  The paddle signs are formally D-series signs (D6 and D8 series, to be precise) and are subject to most of the criteria listed in the conventional-road guide signing chapter in the federal MUTCD.  However, the Massachusetts MUTCD supplement has certain carve-outs concerning them.  They are not required to have mixed-case destination legend, for example (e.g., contract 607495 will install new paddle signs with all-uppercase destinations, while contract 608554 will install new paddle signs with mixed-case destinations).

The paddle sign bible is here:

http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/highway/Departments/TrafficandSafetyEngineering/PoliciesandDesignGuidelines/GuideSignPolicyforSecondaryStateHighways.aspx

Bold emphasis added.
Quote from:  2005 Edition of MassHighway Guide Sign Policy for Secondary State RoutesRoute signs shall be used for all intersecting numbered routes on signs, and should be used for "trailblazer"  information as well. However, on D6 and D8 signs, text (i.e. "˜To Route 202') may be used for "˜trailblazer' information to conserve space where necessary.

Worth noting: MassDOT has since adopted the use of mixed-case lettering for its D6/D8 signs.
Example of new D6/D8 style (i.e. now more paddle-style mounting for the D6 sign)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 17, 2017, 02:45:45 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 17, 2017, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 17, 2017, 03:15:55 AM
I was down in Olympia, Washington just today. I was on the 101, merging onto I-5. I was looking for the END sign, which I found, but something about the shield doesn't look right. Is the "US" text supposed to go above the number? I'm used to seeing the shield without "US" above the number, but I can't remember if that's an old practice that somehow made its way onto a new-ish (<5 years old) marker, or if it's one of those optional additions.

https://goo.gl/sxaT2z

https://i.imgur.com/3HDJHVp.png

I'm guessing they wanted to mimic an older US Route shield.

Must be the case. Or a former Caltrans employee worked on the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on November 17, 2017, 06:33:31 PM
I was looking around an area I got while playing GeoGuessr earlier, and found these double-sided chevrons (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7249537,-93.1941869,3a,29.4y,191.58h,82.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swtGJom77A56cMOKeJ2_RTg!2e0).  At first I thought they were reusing the other side of old signs, but all of the chevrons on the curve are this way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jbnv on November 19, 2017, 05:32:15 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 17, 2017, 03:38:36 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 17, 2017, 03:15:55 AM
I was down in Olympia, Washington just today. I was on the 101, merging onto I-5. I was looking for the END sign, which I found, but something about the shield doesn't look right. Is the "US" text supposed to go above the number? I'm used to seeing the shield without "US" above the number, but I can't remember if that's an old practice that somehow made its way onto a new-ish (<5 years old) marker, or if it's one of those optional additions. <snip>
I'm guessing they wanted to mimic an older US Route shield.

I remember seeing some US 12/14 shields near Madison, WI, with the US above the number. However, that was back in 2007. I think you can barely see it on this GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/sHw4q3ttfd92), but looks like those signs have been replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 24, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26513361299/in/pool-3034019@N21/
How about this one in the way that the FL 39A shield was applied directly over the FL 39 shield for Buchman Highway.  Part of the shield its covering is still visible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 02, 2017, 10:44:54 PM
They put up a couple of new signs to guide traffic from CT Route 9 North to CT Route 372 West in Berlin, CT this week. They assume there will be an increase in traffic when the commuter rail starts up (between New Haven and Springfield, MA) next year. It was hard to get a good shot of the specs sticker on the back of the sign at 6:45 AM, with local sunrise being 6:58 AM.

(https://i.imgur.com/jtBbym4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m3vu74p.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on December 03, 2017, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: Michael on November 17, 2017, 06:33:31 PM
I was looking around an area I got while playing GeoGuessr earlier, and found these double-sided chevrons (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7249537,-93.1941869,3a,29.4y,191.58h,82.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swtGJom77A56cMOKeJ2_RTg!2e0).  At first I thought they were reusing the other side of old signs, but all of the chevrons on the curve are this way.

Wonder why they didn't mount them to the side of the poles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on December 03, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
Yesterday, while driving along I-95 northbound in Mansfield, MA; I noticed this Tale of Two 'Cs' BGS (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9988067,-71.2905409,3a,75y,11.98h,82.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0LNu_2-Mb-UTj-XWKePzsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  Series E-Mod for one; Series E for the other.

It's too bad the two identical lower-case letters weren't accidentally furnished in a similar manner.  Such IMHO would've shown a more sensible (& cheaper) approach to addressing the readability issues associated w/Series E-Mod that triggered the whole Clearview font debate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 04, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Somewhere off of a county route in Chilton County, AL between Clanton, AL and Verbena, AL:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4553/38842633961_2552926561_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22boDPx)CR 400 (NOT COUNTY MAINTAINED) (https://flic.kr/p/22boDPx) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/38842633841_d0540c05d2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22boDMt)CR 400 (NOT COUNTY MAINTAINED) (https://flic.kr/p/22boDMt) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4537/38842633751_92b7e86653_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22boDKV)CR 400 (NOT COUNTY MAINTAINED) (https://flic.kr/p/22boDKV) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 04, 2017, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 04, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Somewhere off of a county route in Chilton County, AL between Clanton, AL and Verbena, AL:

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If it's not county maintained, then what the hell is a blue pentagon with the name of the county doing on it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 04, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 04, 2017, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 04, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Somewhere off of a county route in Chilton County, AL between Clanton, AL and Verbena, AL:

images snipped

If it’s not county maintained, then what the hell is a blue pentagon with the name of the county doing on it?
Chilton County (and Chilton Not County Maintained) don't use street names, but instead county routes on all of their roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on December 05, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 04, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 04, 2017, 09:59:55 PM
If it's not county maintained, then what the hell is a blue pentagon with the name of the county doing on it?
Chilton County (and Chilton Not County Maintained) don't use street names, but instead county routes on all of their roads.

So why isn't it township route 400 or whoever-maintains-this-road route 400 then?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on December 05, 2017, 05:07:13 PM
Whoever drives on that road the most and has the lowest suspension is in charge if filling in the potholes?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on December 05, 2017, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 05, 2017, 05:07:13 PM
Whoever drives on that road the most and has the lowest suspension is in charge if filling in the potholes?

That or whoever is required to do community service. Don't understand why it isn't county maintained.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 05, 2017, 05:43:31 PM
Quote from: tckma on December 05, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 04, 2017, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 04, 2017, 09:59:55 PM
If it's not county maintained, then what the hell is a blue pentagon with the name of the county doing on it?
Chilton County (and Chilton Not County Maintained) don't use street names, but instead county routes on all of their roads.

So why isn't it township route 400 or whoever-maintains-this-road route 400 then?

Because it's Alabama; county shields for everything. Probably just used for Emergency / 911 wayfinding.

Also: "township"  is a derelict sea vessel near the outskirts of the city limits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 05, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
It's an interesting case.  While I've never heard of a county signing a non-county road before, states do it all the time, so I'm having a hard time finding a reason to be against it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 05, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 05, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
It's an interesting case.  While I've never heard of a county signing a non-county road before, states do it all the time, so I'm having a hard time finding a reason to be against it.

I'm not familiar with the practice of states signing non-state roads. Utah doesn't do it, and the concept definitely seems weird to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 05, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 05, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 05, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
It's an interesting case.  While I've never heard of a county signing a non-county road before, states do it all the time, so I'm having a hard time finding a reason to be against it.

I'm not familiar with the practice of states signing non-state roads. Utah doesn't do it, and the concept definitely seems weird to me.

In Massachusetts, being numbered and being state-maintained have nothing to with each other. Many segments of numbered roads are town-maintained, and there are a few state-maintained unnumbered roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 05, 2017, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 05, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 05, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
It's an interesting case.  While I've never heard of a county signing a non-county road before, states do it all the time, so I'm having a hard time finding a reason to be against it.

I'm not familiar with the practice of states signing non-state roads. Utah doesn't do it, and the concept definitely seems weird to me.

Same here. The only numbered routes in Washington are state routes (Interstates and US routes are still state routes). I've personally never seen a county route shield before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 05, 2017, 08:57:59 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 05, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 05, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 05, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
It's an interesting case.  While I've never heard of a county signing a non-county road before, states do it all the time, so I'm having a hard time finding a reason to be against it.

I'm not familiar with the practice of states signing non-state roads. Utah doesn't do it, and the concept definitely seems weird to me.

In Massachusetts, being numbered and being state-maintained have nothing to with each other. Many segments of numbered roads are town-maintained, and there are a few state-maintained unnumbered roads.

In Utah, all numbered routes are state maintained, and all state maintained roads are numbered. This results in weird routes which are hard (impossible?) to clinch. Routes like SR-282, which is a three segment route serving the University of Utah, and SR-298 and 299 which are driver's license test courses.

Quote from: jakeroot on December 05, 2017, 08:50:49 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 05, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 05, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
It's an interesting case.  While I've never heard of a county signing a non-county road before, states do it all the time, so I'm having a hard time finding a reason to be against it.

I'm not familiar with the practice of states signing non-state roads. Utah doesn't do it, and the concept definitely seems weird to me.

Same here. The only numbered routes in Washington are state routes (Interstates and US routes are still state routes). I've personally never seen a county route shield before.

Exact same for Utah, and additionally, all state-maintained roads are defined by the state legislature. This makes the common error where US highways are posted as state routes technically correct by the strictest definition, but still quite annoying. I don't think I've ever seen a CR shield in Utah, but some of the southern counties might post them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on December 06, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
I don't see how the legislature defining which roads are state-maintained makes the signing of US routes as state routes correct.  All US routes are the responsibility of states or localities.  Heck, even most interstates outside of those sections maintained by public authorities.

For example, US 9 in NY is mostly maintained by NYSDOT, but it is still signed as US 9 and not NY 9.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 06, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
June 1996 called...they want their original fine sign back! I THINK it used to say $35 to $112 underneath. Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) North in Berlin, CT.

(https://i.imgur.com/4do58iI.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on December 07, 2017, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on December 06, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
June 1996 called...they want their original fine sign back! I THINK it used to say $35 to $112 underneath. Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) North in Berlin, CT.

$219 fine?  That's a strange amount.  Why not $200, $225, or even $220?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on December 07, 2017, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: tckma on December 07, 2017, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on December 06, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
June 1996 called...they want their original fine sign back! I THINK it used to say $35 to $112 underneath. Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) North in Berlin, CT.

$219 fine?  That's a strange amount.  Why not $200, $225, or even $220?
Guess on my part, the listed fine does not include taxes and/or fees; adding such would probably yield to an even amount.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 07, 2017, 04:17:06 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on December 07, 2017, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: tckma on December 07, 2017, 03:38:14 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on December 06, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
June 1996 called...they want their original fine sign back! I THINK it used to say $35 to $112 underneath. Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) North in Berlin, CT.

$219 fine?  That's a strange amount.  Why not $200, $225, or even $220?
Guess on my part, the listed fine does not include taxes and/or fees; adding such would probably yield to an even amount.

Or said fees increased, while the base price stayed the same.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on December 08, 2017, 08:00:21 PM
Perhaps they set up increases in fines to reflect inflation?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 08, 2017, 11:31:28 PM
Walking by that sign again today, I think it may have read $35 to $90 at first. The oldest Google Street View image of it from 2007/2008 shows the same attached plate or whatever.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on December 11, 2017, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 05, 2017, 08:57:59 PM


In Utah, all numbered routes are state maintained, and all state maintained roads are numbered. This results in weird routes which are hard (impossible?) to clinch. Routes like SR-282, which is a three segment route serving the University of Utah, and SR-298 and 299 which are driver's license test courses.


Just drive each of the three segments.  As for the road test routes... I *think* the road test area behind the Westminster MVA here in Maryland is open/drivable at night.  I never understood why some states don't give the road test on real roads here... in New York, I had to take my road test on open, public roads, amongst public traffic.  Yes, there was a defined start and end point and a defined route, but, it wasn't some closed off kiddie area... you take your road test like a big boy or girl alongside people who already have their licenses.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on December 25, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.

Now THAT is a special kind of ugly. X-( I'm including that weird warning sign beside the sign gantry with my statement, too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 25, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.

Now THAT is a special kind of ugly. X-( I'm including that weird warning sign beside the sign gantry with my statement, too.

I don't know if it's in the MUTCD, but PennDOT uses that as a weave warning sign in various places.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on December 25, 2017, 04:53:31 PM
Take it for what you will, but I'd never seen it and had no idea what it meant before now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 25, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Traffic Sign - Northeast Corner - Broad Street and Roosevelt Boulevard - April 13, 1932.

Taken from the Old Images Of Philadelphia Facebook group.
(https://i.imgur.com/vNZHAZx.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 25, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on December 25, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.

Now THAT is a special kind of ugly. X-( I'm including that weird warning sign beside the sign gantry with my statement, too.

I don't know if it's in the MUTCD, but PennDOT uses that as a weave warning sign in various places.
Definitely not in the MUTCD...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on December 26, 2017, 03:02:19 AM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on December 25, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Traffic Sign - Northeast Corner - Broad Street and Roosevelt Boulevard - April 13, 1932.

Taken from the Old Images Of Philadelphia Facebook group.
(https://i.imgur.com/vNZHAZx.jpg)

Don't care about the quality but I gotta love me a good old road sign pre 1970s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 26, 2017, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.

I actually really like that sign. Apart from the lowercase text, which is too small, and the right-facing arrows' awkward angles, it gets the point across quite nicely. It actually reminds of some of the signs I'm used to seeing in BC, such as these: https://goo.gl/DVpH5c  /  https://goo.gl/DbmhSu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 26, 2017, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.

I actually really like that sign. Apart from the lowercase text, which is too small, and the right-facing arrows' awkward angles, it gets the point across quite nicely. It actually reminds of some of the signs I'm used to seeing in BC, such as these: https://goo.gl/DVpH5c  /  https://goo.gl/DbmhSu

I too like the APL/diagrammatic hybrid sign.  The warning sign, OTOH, is another matter.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 26, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
The symbolic weave warning sign under discussion is a PennDOT standard sign.  It appears in Publication 236M (https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/pubsforms/Publications/PUB%20236M/Sign%20Index%20for%20Change%201%20%2011-13%20(nomenclature).pdf) (PennDOT's Standard Highway Signs equivalent) as W4-13.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 26, 2017, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 26, 2017, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 26, 2017, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on December 25, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
This abomination (https://goo.gl/maps/CtqmzQxqqpM2) seems to be PennDOT's early attempt at an APL back in 2009-2010 or so, around the time I-376 was extended, the missing moves at I-79/376 were added, and all the signage around the 376/22/30/60 interchange was replaced.

I actually really like that sign. Apart from the lowercase text, which is too small, and the right-facing arrows' awkward angles, it gets the point across quite nicely. It actually reminds of some of the signs I'm used to seeing in BC, such as these: https://goo.gl/DVpH5c  /  https://goo.gl/DbmhSu

I too like the APL/diagrammatic hybrid sign.  The warning sign, OTOH, is another matter.

If there were to be a weave symbol, it does seem pretty damn good, tbh. My only wish were for it to be aligned straight up and down, rather than at an angle, as it is now.

There's also the small matter of the general public not necessarily knowing what the road term "weave" means. This sign doesn't leave much to the imagination.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 26, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on December 25, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
Traffic Sign - Northeast Corner - Broad Street and Roosevelt Boulevard - April 13, 1932.

Taken from the Old Images Of Philadelphia Facebook group.
(https://i.imgur.com/vNZHAZx.jpg)
A Cadillac-LaSalle dealership in the background... or at least a billboard for one.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on December 27, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
I have no idea if anyone has posted anything like this yet, and if someone already has, I'm sorry.

But anyways, how common is something like this?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1097993,-113.5592197,3a,15y,93.09h,86.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKjN1jxTMXNc3HCKcfd5MPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6580354,-93.2229914,3a,75y,125.26h,80.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seiAnTfVNaRmk2EplL442Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 27, 2017, 07:48:44 PM
^^ The keep left is occasionally seen, such as those DDI's.  Though I think they should have additional info saying it is left as it looks too much like a keep right sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 12:10:22 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on December 27, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
I have no idea if anyone has posted anything like this yet, and if someone already has, I'm sorry.

But anyways, how common is something like this?

As Big John says above, they pop up occasionally. They seem to be becoming more common, as unusual/unique intersection designs become more popular.

Here's an example not at a DDI: https://goo.gl/2gUBkr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on December 28, 2017, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on December 27, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
I have no idea if anyone has posted anything like this yet, and if someone already has, I'm sorry.

But anyways, how common is something like this?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1097993,-113.5592197,3a,15y,93.09h,86.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKjN1jxTMXNc3HCKcfd5MPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6580354,-93.2229914,3a,75y,125.26h,80.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seiAnTfVNaRmk2EplL442Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The good old ddi. They really need another guide sign explaing drivers what to do, like a drive on left side for 500 ft, or why you are going on the left side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)


Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 28, 2017, 05:22:52 AM
The good old ddi. They really need another guide sign explaing drivers what to do, like a drive on left side for 500 ft, or why you are going on the left side.

I wonder if that would confuse certain drivers even more! Like at a complex freeway-to-freeway interchange, do you show them the full picture or just tell them to sit in a lane and trust that it will get them to where they're going?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 28, 2017, 06:25:36 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 28, 2017, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on December 27, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
I have no idea if anyone has posted anything like this yet, and if someone already has, I'm sorry.

But anyways, how common is something like this?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1097993,-113.5592197,3a,15y,93.09h,86.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKjN1jxTMXNc3HCKcfd5MPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6580354,-93.2229914,3a,75y,125.26h,80.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seiAnTfVNaRmk2EplL442Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The good old ddi. They really need another guide sign explaing drivers what to do, like a drive on left side for 500 ft, or why you are going on the left side.

You simply follow the lane markings.  No additional signage needed. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 28, 2017, 06:25:36 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 28, 2017, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on December 27, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
I have no idea if anyone has posted anything like this yet, and if someone already has, I'm sorry.

But anyways, how common is something like this?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1097993,-113.5592197,3a,15y,93.09h,86.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKjN1jxTMXNc3HCKcfd5MPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6580354,-93.2229914,3a,75y,125.26h,80.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seiAnTfVNaRmk2EplL442Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The good old ddi. They really need another guide sign explaing drivers what to do, like a drive on left side for 500 ft, or why you are going on the left side.

You simply follow the lane markings.  No additional signage needed. 

Agreed.  I've never encountered anyone who seemed confused by a DDI.  And I've driven through them probably at least a dozen times.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 28, 2017, 11:59:58 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 28, 2017, 06:25:36 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 28, 2017, 05:22:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on December 27, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
I have no idea if anyone has posted anything like this yet, and if someone already has, I'm sorry.

But anyways, how common is something like this?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1097993,-113.5592197,3a,15y,93.09h,86.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKjN1jxTMXNc3HCKcfd5MPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6580354,-93.2229914,3a,75y,125.26h,80.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seiAnTfVNaRmk2EplL442Rg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The good old ddi. They really need another guide sign explaing drivers what to do, like a drive on left side for 500 ft, or why you are going on the left side.

You simply follow the lane markings.  No additional signage needed. 

Agreed.  I've never encountered anyone who seemed confused by a DDI.  And I've driven through them probably at least a dozen times.

In the DDIs I've been through, there is so much traffic, lights, etc. that no one really has time to notice that they're on the left side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 28, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
MoDOT is still posting "arrow up with crook to left" warning signs at DDIs.  I personally think they are unnecessary, especially with DDIs becoming as common as dirt.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 28, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
MoDOT is still posting "arrow up with crook to left" warning signs at DDIs.  I personally think they are unnecessary, especially with DDIs becoming as common as dirt.

I hadn't really noticed those before.  Do you know when they started installing them and why?  Browsing through historical GSV of the DDIs at MO-248 & US-65 (Branson) and at MO-13 & I-44 (Springfield), I've narrowed the erection of those signs to between August 2012 and August 2013.  The DDI at Dorsett Rd & I-270 (Saint Louis) had them at least as early as 2011 (perhaps since construction?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on December 28, 2017, 01:29:13 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 28, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
MoDOT is still posting "arrow up with crook to left" warning signs at DDIs.  I personally think they are unnecessary, especially with DDIs becoming as common as dirt.
Florida buses them at SPUIs as well.. I will try and get a picture

Z981

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 28, 2017, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 28, 2017, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 28, 2017, 12:06:46 PM
MoDOT is still posting "arrow up with crook to left" warning signs at DDIs.  I personally think they are unnecessary, especially with DDIs becoming as common as dirt.

I hadn't really noticed those before.  Do you know when they started installing them and why?  Browsing through historical GSV of the DDIs at MO-248 & US-65 (Branson) and at MO-13 & I-44 (Springfield), I've narrowed the erection of those signs to between August 2012 and August 2013.  The DDI at Dorsett Rd & I-270 (Saint Louis) had them at least as early as 2011 (perhaps since construction?)

The MoDOT signing plan sheet tarball (which is more or less complete back to mid-2007, except for design-builds) is consistent with your observations.  I've been going through the ones since 2009 (earlier ones are in a separate folder), and the oldest DDI project I have found that had this particular design of warning sign as part of the initial construction was US 67/SR 221 in Farmington (plan sheet date of 2011-06-30).  It is still part of new DDI construction, including the latest project, which is currently under advertisement (I-70/SSRs F & H in Jackson County).

I-270/Dorsett has an unusual variation--two arrows instead of just one, and "Diverging Diamond Interchange" on the supplemental plate rather than "All Lanes."

As for motivation, I can only speculate, since I don't have an inside pipeline to MoDOT traffic engineering procedure other than their EPG, which is online.  I think these signs reflect a desire to show an abundance of caution in addressing the complaints of motorist confusion (the whole "temporarily driving on the left" thing) that came out of the first DDI at (I think) I-44/SR 13.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
This is the sign utilised by SANRAL, South Africa's road agency, at the Kwamashu DDI Interchange north of Durban:

https://goo.gl/vL23rv (no street view yet)

(https://i.imgur.com/ItOQzlT.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 04:59:59 PM
Just when were embossed railroad signs like the ones on display at the former Cold Spring New York Central Railroad station no longer considered part of the standard?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:06-Old_Cold_Spring_NYC_Station.jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
So, that's what you call those channelized turn lanes in medians in Australia? We use Keep Left symbol signs for those, as you probably might expect.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So, that's what you call those channelized turn lanes in medians in Australia? We use Keep Left symbol signs for those, as you probably might expect.

I don't know where that style of intersection was first implemented (not exactly groundbreaking design but efficient for sure), but I'm pretty sure the Aussies were the first to coin the term "seagull intersection". As far as I know, it's a term also utilised in the US. In fact, the Wikipedia page on the intersection is called "Seagull Intersection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull_intersection)". The term "continuous green T-intersection" is the other term I hear most often. The seagull reference is due to the design of the intersection [very roughly] resembling a mid-flight seagull.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on December 29, 2017, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So, that's what you call those channelized turn lanes in medians in Australia? We use Keep Left symbol signs for those, as you probably might expect.

I don't know where that style of intersection was first implemented (not exactly groundbreaking design but efficient for sure), but I'm pretty sure the Aussies were the first to coin the term "seagull intersection". As far as I know, it's a term also utilised in the US. In fact, the Wikipedia page on the intersection is called "Seagull Intersection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull_intersection)". The term "continuous green T-intersection" is the other term I hear most often. The seagull reference is due to the design of the intersection [very roughly] resembling a mid-flight seagull.

I have not seen that type of intersection in a long time and correct me if I'm wrong but Is this pretty rare?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on December 29, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 29, 2017, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So, that's what you call those channelized turn lanes in medians in Australia? We use Keep Left symbol signs for those, as you probably might expect.

I don't know where that style of intersection was first implemented (not exactly groundbreaking design but efficient for sure), but I'm pretty sure the Aussies were the first to coin the term "seagull intersection". As far as I know, it's a term also utilised in the US. In fact, the Wikipedia page on the intersection is called "Seagull Intersection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull_intersection)". The term "continuous green T-intersection" is the other term I hear most often. The seagull reference is due to the design of the intersection [very roughly] resembling a mid-flight seagull.

I have not seen that type of intersection in a long time and correct me if I'm wrong but Is this pretty rare?

Though I don't think I've ever heard this term before, I've seen the intersection design in use in Maryland; there's one on US 301 just a few miles north of the Nice Bridge (at MD 234), and I think I remember a few along US 50 on the Eastern Shore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 29, 2017, 08:48:18 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 29, 2017, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So, that's what you call those channelized turn lanes in medians in Australia? We use Keep Left symbol signs for those, as you probably might expect.

I don't know where that style of intersection was first implemented (not exactly groundbreaking design but efficient for sure), but I'm pretty sure the Aussies were the first to coin the term "seagull intersection". As far as I know, it's a term also utilised in the US. In fact, the Wikipedia page on the intersection is called "Seagull Intersection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull_intersection)". The term "continuous green T-intersection" is the other term I hear most often. The seagull reference is due to the design of the intersection [very roughly] resembling a mid-flight seagull.

I have not seen that type of intersection in a long time and correct me if I'm wrong but Is this pretty rare?

Relatively speaking, they're rare.  I think I know of 1 true one in NJ - in Manchester at the entrance to the MDL Joint Base. https://goo.gl/maps/Fincc2kKt6J2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 29, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 29, 2017, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 28, 2017, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Jet380 on December 28, 2017, 05:47:02 AM
Here's an example of the opposite, a 'keep right' sign in Australia where we drive on the left. In this case it's used to mark a seagull island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8566097,115.7776872,3a,36.3y,191.07h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spRaWw2PmsW1p4HhVY9Sy0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So, that's what you call those channelized turn lanes in medians in Australia? We use Keep Left symbol signs for those, as you probably might expect.

I don't know where that style of intersection was first implemented (not exactly groundbreaking design but efficient for sure), but I'm pretty sure the Aussies were the first to coin the term "seagull intersection". As far as I know, it's a term also utilised in the US. In fact, the Wikipedia page on the intersection is called "Seagull Intersection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagull_intersection)". The term "continuous green T-intersection" is the other term I hear most often. The seagull reference is due to the design of the intersection [very roughly] resembling a mid-flight seagull.

I have not seen that type of intersection in a long time and correct me if I'm wrong but Is this pretty rare?

They are fairly common in Utah. I can think of at least 10 signalized ones off the top of my head, and I’m sure there are more, with and without signals.

According to Wikipedia, Utah and Nevada call them High-T intersections, but I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard that term used.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 29, 2017, 05:38:34 PM
Unsignalised variations (https://goo.gl/zrsSHx) are extremely common all across the US, as far as I know. Signalised variations seem to pop up in Washington rather often. These are all the ones that I know of off-hand (I'm sure there are more)...

- Meridian @ 31 Ave SE, Puyallup: https://goo.gl/Ms8U28
- East Main @ Shaw Rd, Puyallup: https://goo.gl/apPXq6
- West Valley Hwy @ Valley Freeway, Sumner: https://goo.gl/Cbtrkm
- South Orchard St @ Hwy 16, Tacoma: https://goo.gl/y5Lznp
- South Cloverdale St @ Hwy 509, Seattle: https://goo.gl/6fWwPR
- Broadway @ 41 St Connector Road, Everett: https://goo.gl/sYAA4i
- North Mill Rd @ West Hastings, Spokane: https://goo.gl/ZZuRSd
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 30, 2017, 02:23:05 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 29, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
According to Wikipedia, Utah and Nevada call them High-T intersections, but I don't think I've ever actually heard that term used.

Being from Nevada, my earliest memory of this type of intersection being referred to by a name was indeed "high-T intersection". City of Las Vegas has actually put this wording on some warning sign plaques at a few locations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on December 30, 2017, 05:06:44 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 29, 2017, 05:38:34 PM
Unsignalised variations (https://goo.gl/zrsSHx) are extremely common all across the US, as far as I know. Signalised variations seem to pop up in Washington rather often. These are all the ones that I know of off-hand (I'm sure there are more)...

- Meridian @ 31 Ave SE, Puyallup: https://goo.gl/Ms8U28
- East Main @ Shaw Rd, Puyallup: https://goo.gl/apPXq6
- West Valley Hwy @ Valley Freeway, Sumner: https://goo.gl/Cbtrkm
- South Orchard St @ Hwy 16, Tacoma: https://goo.gl/y5Lznp
- South Cloverdale St @ Hwy 509, Seattle: https://goo.gl/6fWwPR
- Broadway @ 41 St Connector Road, Everett: https://goo.gl/sYAA4i
- North Mill Rd @ West Hastings, Spokane: https://goo.gl/ZZuRSd

I don't know if I'm confusing this with another type od intersection but the Mineke (misspelled) rd, Tualatin Sherwood Road, and Langer Farms road intersection all have dedicated right turn lanes to yield with a useful type island.

I may be overthinking this again though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 30, 2017, 10:43:10 AM
South Carolina has had these since back to around 1980 or so...

The ones on US 52 in North Charleston go back that far.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 30, 2017, 05:42:42 PM
Quote from: roadfro on December 30, 2017, 02:23:05 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on December 29, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
According to Wikipedia, Utah and Nevada call them High-T intersections, but I don't think I've ever actually heard that term used.

Being from Nevada, my earliest memory of this type of intersection being referred to by a name was indeed "high-T intersection". City of Las Vegas has actually put this wording on some warning sign plaques at a few locations.

Now I have "The Fox" stuck in my head.  ...  ♪♫ High-T, High-T, High-T, Ho! ♪♫
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 30, 2017, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on December 30, 2017, 05:06:44 AM
I don't know if I'm confusing this with another type od intersection but the Mineke (misspelled) rd, Tualatin Sherwood Road, and Langer Farms road intersection all have dedicated right turn lanes to yield with a useful type island.

I may be overthinking this again though.

The 99W/Meinecke Road junction is just a standard four-way junction with slip lanes on all four corners. An efficient way to handle right turns, but not quite the same concept as a seagull intersection (the Tualatin-Sherwood and Langer Farms intersections also feature slip lanes, but still not quite the same).

A seagull intersection allows traffic proceeding straight through a T-intersection to continue through at all times, without having to stop. Traffic coming from the side road merges into the middle of the road.

In the first image, we can see that the blue lines intersect, but in the second image, they do not. That's because in the second image, they merge together after the intersection. This allows the top-side movement to proceed at all times (the first image allows pedestrians to cross, but that can be allowed on the seagull intersection with a signal that activates only for pedestrians):

(https://i.imgur.com/BD8XwFU.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0Hm0gHm.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 30, 2017, 07:25:12 PM
I've seen a few of these in Mexico, except that there's no physical island between the through lanes and the turning lanes–just painted stripes or Mexican overgrown Bott's dots.  The one I immediately thought of looks like it's been changed from the overgrown Bott's dots to just a plain four-lane section.  I wonder if turning vehicles were swinging wide and hitting the through traffic in the next lane.

Here is GSV of the way it used to look in 2009 (https://goo.gl/maps/DG6GxrgdR2o).  But slide the timeline over to 2014 and you can see they removed the quasi-island, overgrown Bott's dots, and yellow striping.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 30, 2017, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 30, 2017, 07:25:12 PM
I've seen a few of these in Mexico, except that there's no physical island between the through lanes and the turning lanes–just painted stripes or Mexican overgrown Bott's dots.  The one I immediately thought of looks like it's been changed from the overgrown Bott's dots to just a plain four-lane section.  I wonder if turning vehicles were swinging wide and hitting the through traffic in the next lane.

Here is GSV of the way it used to look in 2009 (https://goo.gl/maps/DG6GxrgdR2o).  But slide the timeline over to 2014 and you can see they removed the quasi-island, overgrown Bott's dots, and yellow striping.

It looks like there's still a merge lane, except they did away with the painted porkchop island. The left lane starts just before the intersection, and ends just afterwards.

At unsignalised T-intersections in Washington State, both the before and after treatments above are common:

With painted porkchop island (before treatment): https://goo.gl/ABQuug
No porkchop island (after treatment): https://goo.gl/8Mf8Fa

Neither seem to be more common than the other, though I prefer painted or solid porkchop islands to reduce the navigable room inside an intersection (and solidify the meaning of the inside lane).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2017, 11:09:12 AM
I thought this CA 219 shield was intriguing:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4737/38521336035_46750afd18_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98)219CAa (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

First off, the shape of the shield is wrong, the numeric font is weird, and it was the only 219 shield I could find eastbound for the entire route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 01, 2018, 07:46:05 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2017, 11:09:12 AM
I thought this CA 219 shield was intriguing:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4737/38521336035_46750afd18_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98)219CAa (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

First off, the shape of the shield is wrong, the numeric font is weird, and it was the only 219 shield I could find eastbound for the entire route.

I feel like I'm in Silent Hill, or something, after looking at that picture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 01, 2018, 11:11:48 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 01, 2018, 07:46:05 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2017, 11:09:12 AM
I thought this CA 219 shield was intriguing:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4737/38521336035_46750afd18_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98)219CAa (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

First off, the shape of the shield is wrong, the numeric font is weird, and it was the only 219 shield I could find eastbound for the entire route.

I feel like I'm in Silent Hill, or something, after looking at that picture.

I had Silent 41 as my messanger status at work for awhile but nobody got the reference.  Pretty thick Tule Fog in places Saturday. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 01, 2018, 01:19:31 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 31, 2017, 11:09:12 AM
I thought this CA 219 shield was intriguing:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4737/38521336035_46750afd18_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98)219CAa (https://flic.kr/p/21FZV98) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

First off, the shape of the shield is wrong, the numeric font is weird, and it was the only 219 shield I could find eastbound for the entire route.
Not to mention the kerning on S a l i d a.  X-(
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 02, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Apparently this was posted on I-15 within the past few days and other similar signs are showing up around the state (it's apparently not a photoshop). Methinks Caltrans will not be amused.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180103/06f68f25a8d1cde80445f67c66b8c1ec.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 02, 2018, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 02, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Apparently this was posted on I-15 within the past few days and other similar signs are showing up around the state (it's apparently not a photoshop). Methinks Caltrans will not be amused.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180103/06f68f25a8d1cde80445f67c66b8c1ec.jpg)

Somebody sure spent a lot of money.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 02, 2018, 10:15:55 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 02, 2018, 08:50:41 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 02, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Apparently this was posted on I-15 within the past few days and other similar signs are showing up around the state (it's apparently not a photoshop). Methinks Caltrans will not be amused.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180103/06f68f25a8d1cde80445f67c66b8c1ec.jpg)

Somebody sure spent a lot of money.

Maybe it was the same people who disguised themselves as Caltrans employees and added the I-5 to the overhead on the Harbor Freeway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 02, 2018, 11:47:26 PM
^^
The only giveaway that it's not real is the corner radii of the sign. The outer white border has a corner radius that's too sharp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 02, 2018, 11:50:13 PM
Someone will steal it soon enough. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 02, 2018, 11:55:37 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 02, 2018, 11:50:13 PM
Someone will steal it soon enough.

The sign on the 15 coming from Nevada has already been removed by Caltrans, but apparently, another one exists on the 40 coming from Arizona, and another on the Malibu city limits sign, with slightly different wording:

http://fxn.ws/2CteZih

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa57.foxnews.com%2Fimages.foxnews.com%2Fcontent%2Ffox-news%2Fpolitics%2F2018%2F01%2F02%2Fprank-california-highway-signs-welcome-felons-illegal-immigrants-and-ms-13%2F_jcr_content%2Fpar%2Ffeatured_image%2Fmedia-0.img.jpg%2F931%2F524%2F1514899049524.jpg%3Fve%3D1%26amp%3Btl%3D1&hash=93f4dda39beeac43aad2357665fc6bb313bde4ab)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on January 03, 2018, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 02, 2018, 11:47:26 PM
^^
The only giveaway that it's not real is the corner radii of the sign. The outer white border has a corner radius that's too sharp.

That and the political message that Caltrans would never use.  And Caltrans doesn't put the California state seal on signs much.  (Watch, now other forum members will come out of the woodwork posting photos of Caltrans signs with the state seal on them....)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on January 04, 2018, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 02, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Apparently, this was posted on I-15 within the past few days and other similar signs are showing up around the state (it's apparently not a photoshop). Methinks Caltrans will not be amused.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180103/06f68f25a8d1cde80445f67c66b8c1ec.jpg)

It is like a political ad and the corners of the signs aren't like a normal freeway sign. If it is real, they could get cited.

Glad to see Caltrans removing it but how did it get through in the first place?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 04, 2018, 03:15:09 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 04, 2018, 02:20:10 AM
Glad to see Caltrans removing it but how did it get through in the first place?

It didn't really "get through". Some funnymen just made their own road sign and posted it without permission.

Quote from: kkt on January 03, 2018, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 02, 2018, 11:47:26 PM
^^
The only giveaway that it's not real is the corner radii of the sign. The outer white border has a corner radius that's too sharp.

That and the political message that Caltrans would never use.  And Caltrans doesn't put the California state seal on signs much.  (Watch, now other forum members will come out of the woodwork posting photos of Caltrans signs with the state seal on them....)

Well, the message is certainly not something that Caltrans (or any agency) would ever put on a road sign. But, if the rest of the sign was otherwise to spec, one could theorise that it could have passed through an official sign shop, just "off the books".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 04, 2018, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 04, 2018, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 02, 2018, 08:43:25 PM
Apparently, this was posted on I-15 within the past few days and other similar signs are showing up around the state (it's apparently not a photoshop). Methinks Caltrans will not be amused.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180103/06f68f25a8d1cde80445f67c66b8c1ec.jpg)

It is like a political ad and the corners of the signs aren't like a normal freeway sign. If it is real, they could get cited.

Glad to see Caltrans removing it but how did it get through in the first place?

Someone pulls over to the side of the highway and just mounts it to the sign posts.  Its actually fairly easy to do with a decent socket wrench set. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on January 04, 2018, 03:56:13 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7486698,-92.3921809,3a,15y,100.87h,96.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2V2-eP0aIhKZChLgkqIDtQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I don't know how common BRSs (Big Red Signs) are.

I'll try to take a picture of this later.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 04, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 04, 2018, 03:56:13 PMI don't know how common BRSs (Big Red Signs) are.
Here's another BRS (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1661204,-74.7205365,3a,75y,358.69h,72.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOyDBqxcNmymyzI9y5CV_WQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on January 04, 2018, 04:08:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 04, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 04, 2018, 03:56:13 PMI don't know how common BRSs (Big Red Signs) are.
Here's another BRS (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1661204,-74.7205365,3a,75y,358.69h,72.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOyDBqxcNmymyzI9y5CV_WQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

That one strikes me as more unusual than the one TBKS1 posted.

Around here, we still have a few of the old BRS-style "Do Not Enter" signs, but there aren't many left. The one seen in the first link below is not long for this world (it might already be gone), as the assembly will be replaced as part of the I-395 HO/T project. These two signs date back to the 1970s.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8116716,-77.147836,3a,75y,238.82h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRV5h7CrsE0pYD7ajLj_drQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The newer similar sign seen in the following link probably has a little longer, but it too will likely meet its end as part of the I-66 Outside the Beltway HO/T project.

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.859903,-77.3594859,3a,75y,82.92h,81.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szzGfKWpDjCUBmvUOUZTOLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 04, 2018, 04:17:01 PM
There used to be red overhead warning signs on the highway between Puebla and Orizaba, Mexico.  They have since been replaced with yellow signs.

Old GSV here (https://goo.gl/maps/FueRgfSsEVt) (translation: VEHICLES WITHOUT BRAKES / FOLLOW THE RED LINE)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 04, 2018, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 04, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 04, 2018, 03:56:13 PMI don't know how common BRSs (Big Red Signs) are.
Here's another BRS (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1661204,-74.7205365,3a,75y,358.69h,72.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOyDBqxcNmymyzI9y5CV_WQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

Tennessee and Kentucky also have these regarding the US 25E tunnel at Cumberland Gap.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 04, 2018, 11:55:33 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 04, 2018, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 04, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 04, 2018, 03:56:13 PMI don't know how common BRSs (Big Red Signs) are.
Here's another BRS (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1661204,-74.7205365,3a,75y,358.69h,72.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOyDBqxcNmymyzI9y5CV_WQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

Tennessee and Kentucky also have these regarding the US 25E tunnel at Cumberland Gap.

There's also similar signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9660502,-93.269322,3a,49.2y,279.21h,87.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-V2swwTWvIqwHiP2v_sjhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) regarding hazardous materials through the Lowry Hill tunnel on I-94.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on January 05, 2018, 12:02:53 AM
So let me get this straight...

It seems like most BRSs are used either for tunnels or giant "Do Not Enter/Wrong Way" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 05, 2018, 12:55:35 PM
There are also a few on US 20A (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7463947,-78.1202293,3a,25.3y,276.68h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssgHmPcTn5YTrC4Plm6IhxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) approaching Warsaw due to the steep hill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 05, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 05, 2018, 12:02:53 AM
So let me get this straight...

It seems like most BRSs are used either for tunnels or giant "Do Not Enter/Wrong Way" signs.

Make sense.  Red means stop or a stern warning in most cases.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on January 05, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
This intersection in Winter Park, FL, forgoes the added "4 Way" sign for the stop signs.  Instead, it is written right on the stop sign itself.
In addition, as you can see across the street, the Yield to Peds signs are yellow octagons on the reverse side.  All 4 stops at this intersection receive the same treatment.

(https://i.imgur.com/mzJLujX.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 05, 2018, 03:53:47 PM
↑  Boo!  Hiss!  ↑
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: chays on January 05, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
This intersection in Winter Park, FL, forgoes the added "4 Way" sign for the stop signs.  Instead, it is written right on the stop sign itself.
In addition, as you can see across the street, the Yield to Peds signs are yellow octagons on the reverse side.  All 4 stops at this intersection receive the same treatment.

(https://i.imgur.com/mzJLujX.jpg)
That P also looks off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 05, 2018, 09:36:23 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
That P also looks off.

That's what she said. :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2018, 10:46:17 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 05, 2018, 09:36:23 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
That P also looks off.

That's what she said. :bigass:
That joke does not work well for my statement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 06, 2018, 09:06:16 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2018, 10:46:17 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 05, 2018, 09:36:23 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
That P also looks off.

That's what she said. :bigass:
That joke does not work well for my statement.

Depends on the "P" being refered to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on January 06, 2018, 04:00:39 PM
^There is a song in there somewhere^
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 06, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
Still looking for more info on these old fashioned railroad signs.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:06-Old_Cold_Spring_NYC_Station.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 08, 2018, 01:46:49 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 06, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
Still looking for more info on these old fashioned railroad signs.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:06-Old_Cold_Spring_NYC_Station.jpg

They look cast-iron.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Speaking of old fashioned railroad signs; here's a survivor sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9217538,-75.2882051,3a,75y,267.23h,79.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj1boiS1q-Dxieiw_VcwV4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (next to the telephone pole) approaching a trolley crossing (SEPTA's Route 102).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2018, 03:11:02 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Speaking of old fashioned railroad signs; here's a survivor sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9217538,-75.2882051,3a,75y,267.23h,79.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj1boiS1q-Dxieiw_VcwV4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (next to the telephone pole) approaching a trolley crossing (SEPTA's Route 102).

I'm not sure what a "survivor" sign is, but that one's positively ancient! One of the oldest signs I've seen for quite a while.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 09, 2018, 03:47:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 09, 2018, 03:11:02 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Speaking of old fashioned railroad signs; here's a survivor sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9217538,-75.2882051,3a,75y,267.23h,79.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj1boiS1q-Dxieiw_VcwV4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (next to the telephone pole) approaching a trolley crossing (SEPTA's Route 102).
I'm not sure what a "survivor" sign is, but that one's positively ancient! One of the oldest signs I've seen for quite a while.

I think he just means a really, really old sign that somehow still "survives" being posted in the wild. ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 09, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 09, 2018, 03:47:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 09, 2018, 03:11:02 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Speaking of old fashioned railroad signs; here's a survivor sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9217538,-75.2882051,3a,75y,267.23h,79.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj1boiS1q-Dxieiw_VcwV4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (next to the telephone pole) approaching a trolley crossing (SEPTA's Route 102).

I'm not sure what a "survivor" sign is, but that one's positively ancient! One of the oldest signs I've seen for quite a while.

I think he just means a really, really old sign that somehow still "survives" being posted in the wild. ;-)

Hmm, yes. So he meant "surviving", then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 09, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 09, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 09, 2018, 03:47:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 09, 2018, 03:11:02 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Speaking of old fashioned railroad signs; here's a survivor sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9217538,-75.2882051,3a,75y,267.23h,79.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj1boiS1q-Dxieiw_VcwV4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (next to the telephone pole) approaching a trolley crossing (SEPTA's Route 102).

I'm not sure what a "survivor" sign is, but that one's positively ancient! One of the oldest signs I've seen for quite a while.

I think he just means a really, really old sign that somehow still "survives" being posted in the wild. ;-)

Hmm, yes. So he meant "surviving", then.
Yes I did.  My reason for using the word survivor is due to others using the same word to describe such.  Had I not included the word sign in my previous post/hot-link; would the last three posts even occurred?  :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 10, 2018, 02:56:08 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4739/25677108698_c4d16dc78d_z_d.jpg)

I found two CAUTION signs last week in West Fork, AR.  Does anyone use these anymore?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 02:27:21 AM
Quote from: US71 on January 10, 2018, 02:56:08 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4739/25677108698_c4d16dc78d_z_d.jpg)

I found two CAUTION signs last week in West Fork, AR.  Does anyone use these anymore?

It's not uncommon but it's not common in Oregon. More often used now on walking paths.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 11, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 11, 2018, 02:27:21 AM
It's not uncommon but it's not common in Oregon. More often used now on walking paths.
I rarely see any Caution signs anymore. Furthermore I don't remember whether or not I've seen any on the Suncoast Trail or Withlacoochee State Trail. I should keep looking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on January 11, 2018, 09:10:33 PM
While looking around in Street View, I stumbled on this orange Share the Road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1184437,-75.9068745,3a,18.1y,238.16h,86.83t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sNutrRiLzzSt922Z4o3CXGg!2e0) in a construction zone on US 11 in Binghamton, NY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 12, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Speaking of old fashioned railroad signs; here's a survivor sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9217538,-75.2882051,3a,75y,267.23h,79.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj1boiS1q-Dxieiw_VcwV4g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (next to the telephone pole) approaching a trolley crossing (SEPTA's Route 102).
Makes me sorry I've never been there. But if you want old cast iron railroad signs, I recommend this story from Trains Are Fun:
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/far%20rockaway%20branch/farrockawaybranch.htm#Ozone Park Sign

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2018, 03:52:47 AM
WSDOT just posted this image on their Flickr, from a resurfacing project near Concrete last summer. I know it's a sign to indicate restrooms in 500 feet, but what standard dictates that shape? I rarely see signs that aren't anything but square. I seem to recall different shapes for National Forest Service areas and National Parks, but this sign is not in either. Up Hwy 20 about a half hour, is the Mt Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest, but that's it.

Gmaps link: https://goo.gl/naUvSc

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4600/27746818869_dfc9a66e3b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 14, 2018, 11:18:26 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2018, 03:52:47 AMWSDOT just posted this image on their Flickr, from a resurfacing project near Concrete last summer. I know it's a sign to indicate restrooms in 500 feet, but what standard dictates that shape? I rarely see signs that aren't anything but square.

Some states use the narrow-base symmetrical trapezoid shape for state-specific standard signs for scenic drives, ski areas, other destinations of recreational or cultural interest, etc.  Colorado has a cute template, with a pine tree at the bottom, that is available in blue, brown, and (I think) green.  AFAIK, only the asymmetrical bias-cut trapezoid is in the MUTCD and it is strictly for tourist signing only (brown background color).

I think this sign could be a one-off (not even a WSDOT standard), but this is something you could check in WSDOT's Sign Fabrication Manual.  It includes both signs that are in the federal Standard Highway Signs and Washington-specific designs.  The former have sign codes that match up with SHS, while the latter have codes that follow the federal sign coding scheme but with three digits in the second digit group.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2018, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 14, 2018, 11:18:26 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2018, 03:52:47 AMWSDOT just posted this image on their Flickr, from a resurfacing project near Concrete last summer. I know it's a sign to indicate restrooms in 500 feet, but what standard dictates that shape? I rarely see signs that aren't anything but square.

Some states use the narrow-base symmetrical trapezoid shape for state-specific standard signs for scenic drives, ski areas, other destinations of recreational or cultural interest, etc.  Colorado has a cute template, with a pine tree at the bottom, that is available in blue, brown, and (I think) green.  AFAIK, only the asymmetrical bias-cut trapezoid is in the MUTCD and it is strictly for tourist signing only (brown background color).

I think this sign could be a one-off (not even a WSDOT standard), but this is something you could check in WSDOT's Sign Fabrication Manual.  It includes both signs that are in the federal Standard Highway Signs and Washington-specific designs.  The former have sign codes that match up with SHS, while the latter have codes that follow the federal sign coding scheme but with three digits in the second digit group.

Thank you for the tip. I checked the fabrication manual. There's a restroom sign (D5-908) but it's square with a brown background. Part of the Recreational Facility Symbol Signs group.

Further down, there's also the Motorist Service and Recreational Facility Symbol Signs, where (when used as motorist service sign) another restroom sign (D9-7) can have a blue background, but a trapezoidal background is obviously not specified.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on January 14, 2018, 08:45:43 PM
Here's an ancient postmile marker on San Bernardino County 66 (aka Route 66), taken today. There are several more like it in the area, all of which appear to be marking old bridges on the U.S. 66 alignment.

Why "interesting"? Because it shows the route marked as "40," which predates the actual I-40 just a little bit south.

(https://i.imgur.com/gp61RVM.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 18, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
Who likes Courier and New Courier? Because I have one of them in Navasota, Texas!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/25882374928_977618ccfe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Fr8WkA)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on January 18, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 18, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
Who likes Courier and New Courier? Because I have one of them in Navasota, Texas!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/25882374928_977618ccfe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Fr8WkA)

I actually kind of like that. It looks pretty different and unique at the same time.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 19, 2018, 08:25:39 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 18, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 18, 2018, 07:01:47 PM
Who likes Courier and New Courier? Because I have one of them in Navasota, Texas!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/25882374928_977618ccfe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Fr8WkA)

I actually kind of like that. It looks pretty different and unique at the same time.  :D

Is that a reference marker for a county road below the shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 19, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on January 19, 2018, 08:25:39 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 18, 2018, 08:57:16 PM
I actually kind of like that. It looks pretty different and unique at the same time.  :D

Is that a reference marker for a county road below the shield?

I think it's to denote block and building numbers for addresses.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
How about Series F on an I-65 shield? Saw this last night on I-65 in Tennessee while heading home from Lebanon, TN, but it was too dark to get a picture:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8055459,-86.8506499,3a,15y,232.01h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splTsjyBL8WR-Nl5_LCVIIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 22, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
How about Series F on an I-65 shield? Saw this last night on I-65 in Tennessee while heading home from Lebanon, TN, but it was too dark to get a picture:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8055459,-86.8506499,3a,15y,232.01h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splTsjyBL8WR-Nl5_LCVIIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Looks more like Series E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on January 22, 2018, 05:40:33 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
How about Series F on an I-65 shield? Saw this last night on I-65 in Tennessee while heading home from Lebanon, TN, but it was too dark to get a picture:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8055459,-86.8506499,3a,15y,232.01h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splTsjyBL8WR-Nl5_LCVIIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Reminds me of this awful I-15 shield in Cedar City (https://goo.gl/maps/ADrqAPvpJGQ2). The worst part is that it replaced a button-copy sign, visible in some of the older GSVs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 22, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on January 22, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
How about Series F on an I-65 shield? Saw this last night on I-65 in Tennessee while heading home from Lebanon, TN, but it was too dark to get a picture:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8055459,-86.8506499,3a,15y,232.01h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splTsjyBL8WR-Nl5_LCVIIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Looks more like Series E.
Quote from: roadguy2 on January 22, 2018, 05:40:33 PM
Reminds me of this awful I-15 shield in Cedar City (https://goo.gl/maps/ADrqAPvpJGQ2). The worst part is that it replaced a button-copy sign, visible in some of the older GSVs.

There's a few like that on I-75 through Alligator Alley:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5511/31300284632_e7e82e3a42_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PFU98S)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/562/19335962033_e17c079e26_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vsDRRK) (https://flic.kr/p/vsDRRK)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 23, 2018, 12:10:16 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on January 22, 2018, 05:40:33 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
How about Series F on an I-65 shield? Saw this last night on I-65 in Tennessee while heading home from Lebanon, TN, but it was too dark to get a picture:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8055459,-86.8506499,3a,15y,232.01h,87.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1splTsjyBL8WR-Nl5_LCVIIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Reminds me of this awful I-15 shield in Cedar City (https://goo.gl/maps/ADrqAPvpJGQ2). The worst part is that it replaced a button-copy sign, visible in some of the older GSVs.

Not as bad as this I-15 Utah Shield (since replaced):

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5628722,-112.6055071,3a,75y,201.92h,81.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLrk6PErHSzffJPOBgKMCWg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 23, 2018, 01:05:45 AM
This one has been installed for several years. A red-on-white keep-right object marker/chevron (MUTCD OM3-L): https://goo.gl/3JD9ST

As far as I can tell, it was installed by the city of Mercer Island, Washington.

(https://i.imgur.com/toWe2TB.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on January 27, 2018, 04:55:52 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4696/28153481579_61f1dd79c9_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/JTPXdP)No Parking Through Stadium Events (https://flic.kr/p/JTPXdP) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4744/28153481169_a2387fc670_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/JTPX6K)No Parking Through Stadium Events (https://flic.kr/p/JTPX6K) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I saw this in Central Little Rock earlier today, and yes this is pretty close to War Memorial Stadium, but I thought this was pretty interesting.

Also, I'll add this in too. Bus Route Sign Salad anyone?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4713/28153482359_db6c067023_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/JTPXsg)Bus Route Sign Salad (https://flic.kr/p/JTPXsg) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 30, 2018, 12:30:13 AM
Santa Clara County seems to want everyone to think that CA 130 reaches I-5 and signs San Antonio Valley and Del Puerte Road to the Stanislaus County line.  The shields that are posted suffice to say are really unique.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4657/26106647298_bf467595d9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FLXoGA)130CAf (https://flic.kr/p/FLXoGA) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4741/26106654348_0d657ed30e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FLXqN9)130CAg (https://flic.kr/p/FLXqN9) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4756/25108644957_3007ea594f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EfLnnF)130CAh (https://flic.kr/p/EfLnnF) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on January 30, 2018, 01:00:37 AM
I should probably add this too.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4770/28153480289_05d41dbb24_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/JTPWQz)Reserved Parking Sign (Cut in Half) (https://flic.kr/p/JTPWQz) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, that's a reserved parking sign, and yes, it's been cut in half. I found this in the middle of Pinnacle Mountain State Park a few days ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2018, 01:34:32 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 30, 2018, 01:00:37 AM
I should probably add this too.

https://flic.kr/p/JTPWQz

Yes, that's a reserved parking sign, and yes, it's been cut in half. I found this in the middle of Pinnacle Mountain State Park a few days ago.

I think that's more appropriate for our 'Vandalised Signs (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10303.0)' thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on January 30, 2018, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 30, 2018, 01:34:32 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on January 30, 2018, 01:00:37 AM
I should probably add this too.

https://flic.kr/p/JTPWQz

Yes, that's a reserved parking sign, and yes, it's been cut in half. I found this in the middle of Pinnacle Mountain State Park a few days ago.

I think that's more appropriate for our 'Vandalised Signs (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10303.0)' thread.

I'll put it there too!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 30, 2018, 06:22:10 PM
Not sure where to put this one...it's just a mile marker near Grove Hill, Alabama. Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.6994526,-87.7831629,3a,33.9y,189.27h,86.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svs-gOeclTzwdI-vPRH9i9A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dvs-gOeclTzwdI-vPRH9i9A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D12.147366%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)

But why is it mile 576?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4712/26103742518_6781b1ae1d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FLGvdb)

This on the ramp from southbound US 43 to US 84. But US 43 isn't even that long a route. Here's mile marker 577, so it's not part of US 84. (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7137443,-87.7820551,3a,15y,244.23h,87.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgi9c3th5Vd46t3b7r9IxVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) It's definitely not 576/577 miles from its terminus, and it's not a conversion from kilometers. Roughly 79 miles away (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/31.7004165,-87.7830796/999-901+AL-13,+Prichard,+AL+36610/@31.1972756,-88.0266013,9.54z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x889a51a0742b853b:0xffb85f0512e9b54a!2m2!1d-88.0690067!2d30.7434805!3e0), there's Mile Marker 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7457676,-88.0695022,3a,75y,334.08h,88.91t,0.71r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH4-tpg5NgRg1GfaYv1rVAQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Pritchard.

Is this part of a longer route I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on January 30, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2018, 06:22:10 PM
Not sure where to put this one...it's just a mile marker near Grove Hill, Alabama.

But why is it mile 576?

Is this part of a longer route I'm not aware of?

No. ALDOT uses 500 as a countdown mile marker if extensions are proposed and construction does not begin at the south/west end, as the final length is not known. This allows them to renumber all at once when the highway is complete. They have a few weird things like this. Don't know what this references, though, as neither 43 nor 84 use countdown markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 30, 2018, 07:10:36 PM
Quote from: cl94 on January 30, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2018, 06:22:10 PM
Not sure where to put this one...it's just a mile marker near Grove Hill, Alabama.

But why is it mile 576?

Is this part of a longer route I'm not aware of?

No. ALDOT uses 500 as a countdown mile marker if extensions are proposed and construction does not begin at the south/west end, as the final length is not known. This allows them to renumber all at once when the highway is complete. They have a few weird things like this. Don't know what this references, though, as neither 43 nor 84 use countdown markers.

Makes sense. I'd just remove the mile markers in that area, as I don't think anyone would notice in a vaguely-populated area.

Do any other states do something similar?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on January 30, 2018, 11:02:18 PM
^^ When Indiana opened the first new section of I-69 in southwestern Indiana, they replaced the mile markers north of Indianapolis, adding 200 to each one. No one knew if that would turn out to be the exact mileage, because the exact route between Crane and Indianapolis had not yet been determined. They figured 200 was close enough. Perhaps they will renumber after the entire route is done or maybe not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 09, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1141922,-103.1178707,3a,15y,108.9h,87.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNOUzvyZN86icn6GuljejyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I find this weird because it's not very close to the Canada border. This is in Rapid City, South Dakota.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2018, 02:12:56 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 09, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1141922,-103.1178707,3a,15y,108.9h,87.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNOUzvyZN86icn6GuljejyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I find this weird because it's not very close to the Canada border. This is in Rapid City, South Dakota.
It's not even the FHWA's standard for a metric speed limit sign:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/MUTCD_R2-1_METRIC.svg/220px-MUTCD_R2-1_METRIC.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 09, 2018, 03:18:36 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2018, 02:12:56 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 09, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1141922,-103.1178707,3a,15y,108.9h,87.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNOUzvyZN86icn6GuljejyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I find this weird because it's not very close to the Canada border. This is in Rapid City, South Dakota.

It's not even the FHWA's standard for a metric speed limit sign:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/MUTCD_R2-1_METRIC.svg/220px-MUTCD_R2-1_METRIC.svg.png

I wasn't even aware that the MUTCD still contained metric-related signage standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 09, 2018, 03:29:40 AM
They were dropped as of 2009.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 09, 2018, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 09, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1141922,-103.1178707,3a,15y,108.9h,87.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNOUzvyZN86icn6GuljejyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I find this weird because it's not very close to the Canada border. This is in Rapid City, South Dakota.

I haven't been to the Dakotas, but it's also unusual to find a regulatory speed limit sign on a ramp.

Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2018, 02:12:56 AM
It's not even the FHWA's standard for a metric speed limit sign:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/MUTCD_R2-1_METRIC.svg/220px-MUTCD_R2-1_METRIC.svg.png)

I've never seen that variety in the field. The example above is closer to what I've seen, although still quite rare.

So there's no exact standard for dual units in the United States.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 09, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
There are multiple dual-units speed limit signs in western South Dakota around Rapid City and the tourist belt down to the Nebraska state line and east to Badlands National Park.  They were there when I first visited in 2000 and I suspect they far pre-dated the Millennium MUTCD, which introduced the metric signing option.  My guess is that they are an experiment by a SDDOT district and have nothing to do with proximity to the Canadian border, though the Sturgis motorcycle rally does attract numerous bikers with license plates from Canadian provinces.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 09, 2018, 12:56:40 PM
NY has some of the metric speed limit signs.  NY 812 has one on the bridge to Canada, and the northern end of US 11 has them as well.
http://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=ny812&state=NY&file=100_6498.JPG
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 09, 2018, 01:10:11 PM
Other examples:

US 97 near Oroville, Washington (hard conversion:  60 mph = 100 km/h) (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.9969857,-119.4603057,3a,52.8y,185.31h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMghStXw0DqF6_0LTf7SwTA!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)

US 40 in Steamboat Springs, Colorado (hard conversion:  40 mph = 65 km/h) (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.501091,-106.8552756,3a,15.7y,186.7h,88.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRJUjjVfDf0kE1PzMEwC0ig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I-19 in Arizona was also supposed to be dual-posted with customary and metric speeds on both speed limit and advisory speed signs.  For the speed limits at least, these would have been soft-converted (55 mph = 88 km/h), though I think advisory speeds would have been hard-converted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on February 09, 2018, 01:11:20 PM
There were dual-unit signs in some places in Florida in the late 80s, but I don't know the location.
(https://i.imgur.com/xJeMZFF.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 09, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 09, 2018, 10:43:59 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 09, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1141922,-103.1178707,3a,15y,108.9h,87.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNOUzvyZN86icn6GuljejyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I find this weird because it's not very close to the Canada border. This is in Rapid City, South Dakota.

I haven't been to the Dakotas, but it's also unusual to find a regulatory speed limit sign on a ramp.

But at what point does that road cease being an off-ramp, and become Hwy 1416? Google Maps says Gate Road, but in my experience, at Y-junctions, they can often start the moment after the roadway diverges from the prior roadway. In this particular case, I'm fine with the speed limit placement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
I want to say that I remember seeing a picture where ALDOT experimented with dual imperial/metric signage on AL 255 back in the 70s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on February 09, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
I want to say that I remember seeing a picture where ALDOT experimented with dual imperial/metric signage on AL 255 back in the 70s.

I don't recall any speed limit signage, but there were kilometer-posts(?) along with the mileposts on US 431 in southeast Alabama in the 1990s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on February 09, 2018, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: Eth on February 09, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
I don't recall any speed limit signage, but there were kilometer-posts(?) along with the mileposts on US 431 in southeast Alabama in the 1990s.

You mean like these?

(https://i.imgur.com/r5YJZSA.jpg)

I assume they're from Alabama, anyway, since that's what came written on the back of two of them, like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/nivzw31.jpg)

I acquired them a few years ago from a seller on eBay who said the signs were from Alabama (so far, the story lines up ;-)). He didn't say exactly which route they came from, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on February 09, 2018, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 09, 2018, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: Eth on February 09, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
I don't recall any speed limit signage, but there were kilometer-posts(?) along with the mileposts on US 431 in southeast Alabama in the 1990s.

You mean like these?

(https://i.imgur.com/r5YJZSA.jpg)

Yep, that's exactly what they looked like. That date of 2005 on the back sounds a little late (I think these were probably gone by the early 2000s), but maybe they were on a different road (we took the standard US 431/231 Atlanta-to-the-Panhandle route, so I don't know which others, if any, had them).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jwolfer on February 10, 2018, 03:00:39 AM
Quote from: riiga on February 09, 2018, 01:11:20 PM
There were dual-unit signs in some places in Florida in the late 80s, but I don't know the location.
(https://i.imgur.com/xJeMZFF.jpg)
In 1981 they we're everywhere around Jacksonville and Gainesville on state roads, and as far as I understand statewide. I was 11 year old road geek riding around all summer with my Granny visiting relatives and friends, so it sticks in my mind. (We we're supposed to switch to metric around 1980, so it may have been part of that)

By 1990 when I came to UNF in  Jacksonville for college, there were few remaining, mostly on roads that were turned over to County or City

Z981
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 10, 2018, 10:28:04 PM
Found this CA 180 on Alta Avenue while following the Blossom Trail today.  I thought it kind of looked like some of the Santa Clara sourced CA 130 shields I posted up thread.  I'd love to have this one in my collection, I'm surprised it was located where it was.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4764/39295110535_d2b82cf1c2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22SnHkM)180CAa (https://flic.kr/p/22SnHkM) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Incidentally all the Blossom Trail signs are just straight vinyl.  Surprisingly them seem to be holding up over time extremely well, a lot of them have reddish color fade which tells me they have been present for several years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on February 11, 2018, 08:01:46 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1291472,-75.2447926,3a,24.9y,340.81h,89.6t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sSWSlxytyRO-Atf2N3VsvUQ!2e0) sign salad near Utica, NY.  Instead of being blue like they should be, the signs are green.  I've never seen anything like it before.  Do the green signs mean that it's a moldy sign salad?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 11, 2018, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 11, 2018, 08:01:46 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1291472,-75.2447926,3a,24.9y,340.81h,89.6t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sSWSlxytyRO-Atf2N3VsvUQ!2e0) sign salad near Utica, NY.  Instead of being blue like they should be, the signs are green.  I've never seen anything like it before.  Do the green signs mean that it's a moldy sign salad?

Those are a lot worse than the Cuomo signs. Where's the FHWA's outrage?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 11, 2018, 08:28:43 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 11, 2018, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 11, 2018, 08:01:46 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1291472,-75.2447926,3a,24.9y,340.81h,89.6t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sSWSlxytyRO-Atf2N3VsvUQ!2e0) sign salad near Utica, NY.  Instead of being blue like they should be, the signs are green.  I've never seen anything like it before.  Do the green signs mean that it's a moldy sign salad?

Those are a lot worse than the Cuomo signs. Where's the FHWA's outrage?

I'm sure it's a one-off. It's the definition of "not worth the time".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BamaZeus on February 12, 2018, 02:14:37 PM
Quote from: Eth on February 09, 2018, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on February 09, 2018, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: Eth on February 09, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
I don't recall any speed limit signage, but there were kilometer-posts(?) along with the mileposts on US 431 in southeast Alabama in the 1990s.

You mean like these?

(https://i.imgur.com/r5YJZSA.jpg)

Yep, that's exactly what they looked like. That date of 2005 on the back sounds a little late (I think these were probably gone by the early 2000s), but maybe they were on a different road (we took the standard US 431/231 Atlanta-to-the-Panhandle route, so I don't know which others, if any, had them).

20/59 had them for sure.  I want to say all the interstates had them, but I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 12, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
Found this "I-94" shield on eBay, needless to say the design falls under the interesting category:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interstate-I-94-Red-and-Blue-Shield-Highway-Sign-Error/263491169894?hash=item3d594c2e66:g:G1IAAOSwEYBagJDS

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 13, 2018, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 12, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
Found this "I-94" shield on eBay, needless to say the design falls under the interesting category:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interstate-I-94-Red-and-Blue-Shield-Highway-Sign-Error/263491169894?hash=item3d594c2e66:g:G1IAAOSwEYBagJDS

Interstate Interstate 94.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on February 13, 2018, 01:38:22 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 13, 2018, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 12, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
Found this "I-94" shield on eBay, needless to say the design falls under the interesting category:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interstate-I-94-Red-and-Blue-Shield-Highway-Sign-Error/263491169894?hash=item3d594c2e66:g:G1IAAOSwEYBagJDS

Interstate Interstate 94.

If it's real, it must be from a Fargo project, since there's a matching "Interstate I-29"  sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on February 14, 2018, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 13, 2018, 12:44:02 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 12, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
Found this "I-94" shield on eBay, needless to say the design falls under the interesting category:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interstate-I-94-Red-and-Blue-Shield-Highway-Sign-Error/263491169894?hash=item3d594c2e66:g:G1IAAOSwEYBagJDS

Interstate Interstate 94.

While they're at it, perhaps they should have made it a state-name interstate shield by putting NORTH DAKOTA at the top, then in a smaller font right below that, a N.D.  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 17, 2018, 09:04:41 AM
This sign is north of the CA 41/CA 145 junction.  The design is pretty unique and I can't recall another California Highway that had the route name displayed on a sign like this.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4605/25438255587_2633346e82_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EKTH8z)0 (https://flic.kr/p/EKTH8z) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 17, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
No idea where this one came from, but "incoming traffic" makes me feel like the cars are missiles or something.
https://me.me/i/stop-incoming-traffic-does-not-stop-none-19697655
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 20, 2018, 11:51:37 AM
I thought I might've mentioned the reversed colors "Wrong Way" sign in Patchogue on another thread, but just in case nobody ever saw the link here...

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wrong_Way_Reversed_Colors_sign(Patchogue,_New_York).JPG

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 20, 2018, 03:21:26 PM
Tunica, Mississippi. https://goo.gl/kdFsfD

Anyone here like Copperplate Gothic?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 20, 2018, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 17, 2018, 06:53:40 PMNo idea where this one came from, but "incoming traffic" makes me feel like the cars are missiles or something.

https://me.me/i/stop-incoming-traffic-does-not-stop-none-19697655

I like the scribbled comment on the stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on February 21, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
While playing GeoGuessr earlier, I came across this weird sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0497649,-84.7436768,3a,18.1y,104.41h,113.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKnXxbbE2TQWTiY6HkKHrKQ!2e0) on a span wire in Ohio.  I've never seen anything like it before.  Has anyone else seen such a thing and is it a possibly legal requirement in Ohio?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 21, 2018, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 21, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
While playing GeoGuessr earlier, I came across this weird sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0497649,-84.7436768,3a,18.1y,104.41h,113.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKnXxbbE2TQWTiY6HkKHrKQ!2e0) on a span wire in Ohio.  I've never seen anything like it before.  Has anyone else seen such a thing and is it a possibly legal requirement in Ohio?

Is it a common sign in Ohio? Or is this just a one-off?

I can say for sure that I've never seen that sign where I spend my time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 21, 2018, 10:11:51 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 21, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
While playing GeoGuessr earlier, I came across this weird sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0497649,-84.7436768,3a,18.1y,104.41h,113.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKnXxbbE2TQWTiY6HkKHrKQ!2e0) on a span wire in Ohio.  I've never seen anything like it before.  Has anyone else seen such a thing and is it a possibly legal requirement in Ohio?

As soon as I started reading ^^^, I knew exactly what you were talking about before I even saw the sign. :)

Unless ODOT has revived them in recent years, that is a relic of at least the 1960s and 1970s (or earlier).  Most ODOT-installed signals (traffic lights, flashing beacons and flashing school zone lights) outside of urban areas -- I usually saw them outside of the larger cities & their suburbs -- had those little yellow signs on span-wire signals or poles back in the day.   They either said PERMIT NO: xxxx or SIGNAL NO: xxxx.

As the years rolled on into the 1980s and beyond, as signals and/or intersections were upgraded those signs were taken down with the old assemblies. 

Likely a way to identify signals in areas where there were no street blades to refer to if the signals were malfunctioning.

Another thing I remember the state of Ohio used to do was require outdoor billboard signs to have a special "license plate" (just like vehicle license plates) attached to them (IIRC, they were either white on royal blue or maroon plates). You still might find a few of those in the wild like the yellow signal signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 21, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2119736,-87.4410869,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH2bUh9AkCeBymYhx0S-T4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 This is odd as on I-169 (former Penryville Parkway) the straight through lanes to I-69 N Bound is signed as a left exit. 

Ditto for the WP as it reaches the SB ramp to the former Penryville has the through lanes leading into I-69 also signed as a left exit as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 22, 2018, 11:24:03 PM
It's opposite day!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4765/39536036925_fb16e77a34_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/23eEwn4)Cross Traffic Must Stop (https://flic.kr/p/23eEwn4) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

This is not on Google Street View.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2018, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 22, 2018, 11:24:03 PM
It's opposite day!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4765/39536036925_fb16e77a34_b.jpg

This is not on Google Street View.

Definitely one of those signs that doesn't seem entirely necessary, but can certainly prove helpful, especially in neighborhoods with many unsigned three and four way intersections (quite common in my neck of the woods).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on February 23, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
There are green I-30 Biz signs in St Helens, Oregon.

GSV http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv (http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2018, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on February 23, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
There are green I-30 Biz signs in St Helens, Oregon.

GSV http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv

That's the normal color for business shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 23, 2018, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2018, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on February 23, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
There are green I-30 Biz signs in St Helens, Oregon.

GSV http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv

That's the normal color for business shields.

It's US 30.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2018, 01:22:08 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 23, 2018, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2018, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on February 23, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
There are green I-30 Biz signs in St Helens, Oregon.

GSV http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv

That's the normal color for business shields.

It's US 30.

(https://i.imgur.com/PKwyw.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on February 23, 2018, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on February 23, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
There are green I-30 Biz signs in St Helens, Oregon.

GSV http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv (http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv)


GMSV shows there are least 6 more of these shields in town, though they do not post a required turn in one direction.  Really odd error to make...Oregon doesn't have interstate business routes.  Also this route isn't posted from mainline US 30 anywhere...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on February 25, 2018, 08:49:59 AM
And "LIMIT" is missing from the sign above that, too! Odd! :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on February 27, 2018, 12:12:02 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on February 25, 2018, 08:49:59 AM
And "LIMIT" is missing from the sign above that, too! Odd! :)

That may be odd to you but it's the standard (until recently) in Oregon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 28, 2018, 07:30:19 AM
This is in today's comics. I didn't want to start a new thread just for this, so I thought this one seemed the most appropriate, although I suppose you could argue "Best of" might work too.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180228/9dfad0e7ed231e7b916c3b187fda350b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on March 04, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4721/40581381612_247d65c97d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24Q3bVj)Slow moving forklifts (https://flic.kr/p/24Q3bVj) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Somewhere in Pulaski County, Arkansas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 04, 2018, 10:22:18 PM
CA 223 with an odd extra small "end" placard:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4748/39728192265_a9d99bfb56_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23wDnsa)223CAendA (https://flic.kr/p/23wDnsa) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2018, 03:56:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
I want to say that I remember seeing a picture where ALDOT experimented with dual imperial/metric signage on AL 255 back in the 70s.
Found this one on Facebook today. Not quite an ALDOT install, but this was taken on Drake Avenue in April of 1974:
(https://scontent.fatl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/28783678_10216252645614319_564040252344238080_o.jpg?oh=2890719969de5417ebab87a576f14d7a&oe=5B0E4995)

Doing some looking on street view, it appears that it had been located right about here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7052509,-86.5822484,3a,50.9y,56.8h,82.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suuepgwoPTs9ghsSUvf-VkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

EDIT: Apparently, this is where the picture was actually taken:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7052675,-86.5783123,3a,36.4y,51.25h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHMZG5BCwyWU82vuAfIuYHA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 05, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
Here's a weird sign I found on GSV in Cottonwood Heights, UT. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6154094,-111.8338796,3a,15y,293.57h,106.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb8dwpJ2mYNUKN-0RM-xUJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) It reads "Yield to pedestrians and oncoming traffic."

Shouldn't this be obvious? Maybe this intersection sees a lot of accidents related to failure to yield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 05, 2018, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on March 05, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
Shouldn't this be obvious? Maybe this intersection sees a lot of accidents related to failure to yield?

Should be, but sadly, isn't always.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on March 05, 2018, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on March 05, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
Here's a weird sign I found on GSV in Cottonwood Heights, UT. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6154094,-111.8338796,3a,15y,293.57h,106.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb8dwpJ2mYNUKN-0RM-xUJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) It reads "Yield to pedestrians and oncoming traffic."

Shouldn't this be obvious? Maybe this intersection sees a lot of accidents related to failure to yield?

Lots of signals like that have (or at least used to) a sign that says "Yield on green" located next to them, I'm guessing since there's a crosswalk right there they just edited the text a little bit to include the pedestrians.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 05, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
Quote from: csw on March 05, 2018, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on March 05, 2018, 06:15:55 PM
Here's a weird sign I found on GSV in Cottonwood Heights, UT. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6154094,-111.8338796,3a,15y,293.57h,106.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb8dwpJ2mYNUKN-0RM-xUJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) It reads "Yield to pedestrians and oncoming traffic."

Shouldn't this be obvious? Maybe this intersection sees a lot of accidents related to failure to yield?

Lots of signals like that have (or at least used to) a sign that says "Yield on green" located next to them, I'm guessing since there's a crosswalk right there they just edited the text a little bit to include the pedestrians.

Are you talking about this sign?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/MUTCD_R10-12.svg/192px-MUTCD_R10-12.svg.png)

That is usually used with PPLT installations with doghouses or 5-light towers, to remind drivers that even when the arrow isn't on, they can still go on a green light after yielding. I've never seen a sign like that specifying pedestrians and oncoming traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 05, 2018, 08:50:18 PM
That'd be the one. But there's also R10-15, which is the standard version of what should be used at that intersection above:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/MUTCD_R10-15L.svg/200px-MUTCD_R10-15L.svg.png)

The sign used, however, seems to be trying to combine the two messages into one sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 05, 2018, 11:17:52 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 05, 2018, 08:50:18 PM
That'd be the one. But there's also R10-15, which is the standard version of what should be used at that intersection above:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/MUTCD_R10-15L.svg/200px-MUTCD_R10-15L.svg.png)

The sign used, however, seems to be trying to combine the two messages into one sign.

IMO, the best way to do that would be to post both signs separately.
Here's an all-text version of the R10-15 sign in Salt Lake City (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7563252,-111.8880742,3a,15y,65.67h,117.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNvuFMNtHmTvG-u-0VzcnZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Using this sign here does make sense, since 600 South is a one-way street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 06, 2018, 03:05:17 AM
Using both signs seems excessive, with R10-12 bring general enough in wording to cover both in normal situations. Only reason I'd use both signs is if the turn has a bad history of collisions with pedestrians, and even then I'd probably mount it down on the corner beside the crosswalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JasonOfORoads on March 06, 2018, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 23, 2018, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on February 23, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
There are green I-30 Biz signs in St Helens, Oregon.

GSV http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv (http://bit.ly/2EWvMuv)


GMSV shows there are least 6 more of these shields in town, though they do not post a required turn in one direction.  Really odd error to make...Oregon doesn't have interstate business routes.  Also this route isn't posted from mainline US 30 anywhere...

IIRC this route was designated by the city without any input from ODOT. That would explain the multitude of signage errors and the lack of recognition from actual US-30.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/38789450440/in/dateposted-public/
A partial APL so to speak.  I do not know if any are in your area, but in Orlando they are becoming common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 06, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/38789450440/in/dateposted-public/
A partial APL so to speak.  I do not know if any are in your area, but in Orlando they are becoming common.

Partial APLs are very common in Utah. In fact, they are now the usual way to sign multi-lane exits. Here's an example:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4767/38946528665_aa9f606275_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22kz96x)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 07, 2018, 12:07:13 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/38789450440/in/dateposted-public/
A partial APL so to speak.  I do not know if any are in your area, but in Orlando they are becoming common.

IIRC, the head of FDOT has been seeking approval for partial/sawn-off APLs like this one (not sure if approval was granted or if they're being installed anyways). I think another one is in use along University Pkwy at I-75.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 07, 2018, 09:40:46 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2018, 07:53:56 PMhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/38789450440/in/dateposted-public/
A partial APL so to speak.  I do not know if any are in your area, but in Orlando they are becoming common.
Example of such (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7046845,-74.2459792,3a,75y,14.02h,78.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W51Tkf9R5hqLQBHU9Sv9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Union, NJ for Exits 142B & C off the northbound GSP.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on March 08, 2018, 01:28:44 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 07, 2018, 09:40:46 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2018, 07:53:56 PMhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/38789450440/in/dateposted-public/
A partial APL so to speak.  I do not know if any are in your area, but in Orlando they are becoming common.
Example of such (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7046845,-74.2459792,3a,75y,14.02h,78.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W51Tkf9R5hqLQBHU9Sv9g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Union, NJ for Exits 142B & C off the northbound GSP.
Well, sort of. The two lanes in question both exit, just to different places, so the "straight ahead" lane doesn't stay with the Parkway for any meaningful time. Frankly, such a sign would make more sense over two lanes that have already split from the Parkway. Was this interchange ever configured that way?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on March 08, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
Today I learned that National Natural Landmarks can be both publicly and privately owned.  The sign below is from a privately-owned one.  It looks like they wanted to mimic the USFS or BLM-style signage, but with that font and "arrows", this looks pretty ridiculous.  Its debatable whether this or not this falls into a "road sign" category rather than an advertisement/billboard, but I thought I'd share.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmarc.merlins.org%2Fblogimg%2Fthumb1024_100_20161211_Black_Chasm_Cavern.jpg&hash=107340b36eb837cee3c9662ac6afaf5d5abd1df3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 08, 2018, 11:32:05 PM
Quote from: chays on March 08, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
Today I learned that National Natural Landmarks can be both publicly and privately owned.  The sign below is from a privately-owned one.  It looks like they wanted to mimic the USFS or BLM-style signage, but with that font and "arrows", this looks pretty ridiculous.  Its debatable whether this or not this falls into a "road sign" category rather than an advertisement/billboard, but I thought I'd share.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmarc.merlins.org%2Fblogimg%2Fthumb1024_100_20161211_Black_Chasm_Cavern.jpg&hash=107340b36eb837cee3c9662ac6afaf5d5abd1df3)

You take a trip to Volcano, CA?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on March 09, 2018, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 08, 2018, 11:32:05 PM
You take a trip to Volcano, CA?
No, that image just popped up when I was looking for 1-2-3 roadsigns.

I'll be visiting SoCal in July, was going to message you with some questions.  I plan on being in San Diego for 1 week for a conference, then heading up to Running Springs for 3 days, then Idyllwild for 3 days.  Looking forward to climbing San Jacinto!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 09, 2018, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: chays on March 08, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
Today I learned that National Natural Landmarks can be both publicly and privately owned.  The sign below is from a privately-owned one.  It looks like they wanted to mimic the USFS or BLM-style signage, but with that font and "arrows", this looks pretty ridiculous.  Its debatable whether this or not this falls into a "road sign" category rather than an advertisement/billboard, but I thought I'd share.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmarc.merlins.org%2Fblogimg%2Fthumb1024_100_20161211_Black_Chasm_Cavern.jpg&hash=107340b36eb837cee3c9662ac6afaf5d5abd1df3)

SMV signs as arrows...can't say I've seen that one before  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 09, 2018, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: chays on March 09, 2018, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 08, 2018, 11:32:05 PM
You take a trip to Volcano, CA?
No, that image just popped up when I was looking for 1-2-3 roadsigns.

I'll be visiting SoCal in July, was going to message you with some questions.  I plan on being in San Diego for 1 week for a conference, then heading up to Running Springs for 3 days, then Idyllwild for 3 days.  Looking forward to climbing San Jacinto!

Nice, you planning on taking the Tramway out of Palm Springs?   There is some nice stuff down towards San Diego like CA 163 that's worth a look.  You'll be close to a lot of old US 66 haunts if you're heading towards Palm Springs.  Let me know if there is anything I can answer for you or point you in the direction of. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on March 09, 2018, 02:22:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 09, 2018, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: chays on March 09, 2018, 10:05:31 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 08, 2018, 11:32:05 PM
You take a trip to Volcano, CA?
No, that image just popped up when I was looking for 1-2-3 roadsigns.

I'll be visiting SoCal in July, was going to message you with some questions.  I plan on being in San Diego for 1 week for a conference, then heading up to Running Springs for 3 days, then Idyllwild for 3 days.  Looking forward to climbing San Jacinto!

Nice, you planning on taking the Tramway out of Palm Springs?   There is some nice stuff down towards San Diego like CA 163 that's worth a look.  You'll be close to a lot of old US 66 haunts if you're heading towards Palm Springs.  Let me know if there is anything I can answer for you or point you in the direction of.
Thanks!  I'll PM you with questions.  As for the tramway, it is doubtful that we will take it.  We will probably take the Marion Mountain Trail from just north of Idyllwild.  It looks amazing, and that way we can say we have spent at least a few moments on the PCT.  Thru-hiking the entire PCT is one of the first things I plan on doing when I retire in about 12 years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on March 10, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
Searcy, Arkansas. The weird looking arrow under the AR-267 shield

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4788/40732180241_510c62133f_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/254n56F)US-67B, AR-267 (https://flic.kr/p/254n56F) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 12, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
Took a clean photo of the CA 1 BGS at the Carmel River showing the openings/closures through Big Sur.  The affects of the Mud Creek Slide are still obvious:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4777/40760236871_442906fb54_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256QSmF)1CAa (https://flic.kr/p/256QSmF) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

On the way home I found a stray leftover CA 156 BL shield/placard combo.  I suspect the shield is probably a leftover from the days when CA 156 actually was through downtown Hollister, the business placard is weird looking.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4801/40760233691_83b6f0d4b0_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256QRpR)156CABLa (https://flic.kr/p/256QRpR) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 18, 2018, 02:04:48 PM
Spotted this sign in Newport News on VA 312, at the bridge over the railroad. Makes me wonder if someone fell off the bike onto the track below

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/290f7b0e4e6cd337c155b394c2799edd.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 18, 2018, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 10, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
Searcy, Arkansas. The weird looking arrow under the AR-267 shield

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4788/40732180241_510c62133f_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/254n56F)US-67B, AR-267 (https://flic.kr/p/254n56F) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I actually wish that was a standard, although it's ambiguous how much of a left-right / right-left movement would make that type of arrow practical?

Quote from: chays on March 08, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
Today I learned that National Natural Landmarks can be both publicly and privately owned.  The sign below is from a privately-owned one.  It looks like they wanted to mimic the USFS or BLM-style signage, but with that font and "arrows", this looks pretty ridiculous.  Its debatable whether this or not this falls into a "road sign" category rather than an advertisement/billboard, but I thought I'd share.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmarc.merlins.org%2Fblogimg%2Fthumb1024_100_20161211_Black_Chasm_Cavern.jpg&hash=107340b36eb837cee3c9662ac6afaf5d5abd1df3)
'

Last week I found Smoky Park Cheese (https://www.amazon.com/SMOKY-PARK-97311-Smoked-Gouda/dp/B01MATL6SA) at Target, and thought the same thing...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71WkS7MpcfL._SX522_.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on March 18, 2018, 11:32:47 PM
At the entry for a maintenance yard off Massario Drive in Berlin, CT. Yes, that's painted on a piece from a plow truck.  :-D

(https://i.imgur.com/XfiIOeX.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 19, 2018, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 18, 2018, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 10, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
Searcy, Arkansas. The weird looking arrow under the AR-267 shield

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4788/40732180241_510c62133f_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/254n56F)US-67B, AR-267 (https://flic.kr/p/254n56F) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I actually wish that was a standard, although it's ambiguous how much of a left-right / right-left movement would make that type of arrow practical?
Here's how ALDOT signs US 231's dogleg in Oneonta:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9474842,-86.4714532,3a,15y,1.58h,87.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slwf7gvqE0nX9n2OOLC0PEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9482126,-86.4722124,3a,15y,347.88h,89.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scIIXGYyhxOkMTR14f2rLxg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.948157,-86.4723674,3a,15y,282.9h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCB-yt57ij3BXPk7rROpDGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

From the other direction:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9486312,-86.4732795,3a,42.6y,147.41h,85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFVtxspsWCnhJ_z1cKueR2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9482375,-86.4728823,3a,15y,169.14h,89.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCdbf1Mxp0YkocrCpu7NX5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.948157,-86.4723674,3a,15y,83.23h,89.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCB-yt57ij3BXPk7rROpDGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 19, 2018, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on March 18, 2018, 11:32:47 PM
At the entry for a maintenance yard off Massario Drive in Berlin, CT. Yes, that's painted on a piece from a plow truck.  :-D

(https://i.imgur.com/XfiIOeX.jpg)

Probably wished they had that plow for use the last few weeks
;^)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on March 19, 2018, 04:06:03 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on March 18, 2018, 11:32:47 PM
At the entry for a maintenance yard off Massario Drive in Berlin, CT. Yes, that's painted on a piece from a plow truck.  :-D

(https://i.imgur.com/XfiIOeX.jpg)

A few do that in Massachusetts, Hubbardston off the top of my head being one of them, https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4600186,-71.9958634,3a,24y,244.16h,80.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSsHCVPJIUiRZADG8jDQ04A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 19, 2018, 07:40:00 PM
Quite a few in NY as well.  It's pretty normal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 19, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 19, 2018, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 18, 2018, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 10, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
Searcy, Arkansas. The weird looking arrow under the AR-267 shield

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4788/40732180241_510c62133f_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/254n56F)US-67B, AR-267 (https://flic.kr/p/254n56F) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I actually wish that was a standard, although it's ambiguous how much of a left-right / right-left movement would make that type of arrow practical?
Here's how ALDOT signs US 231's dogleg in Oneonta:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9474842,-86.4714532,3a,15y,1.58h,87.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slwf7gvqE0nX9n2OOLC0PEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Never noticed that until you pointed it out, sure enough...

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2575/32527995370_a026c5db41_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RyotLo)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 20, 2018, 04:54:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/40926526931/in/dateposted-public/

What is interesting about this one is the fact that FL 437 is only one city block long concurrent with FL 438.  The only reason its here is because just ahead FL 437 becomes County Road 437 and where this sign is located is state maintained for this very short overlap.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:28 PM
I retraced part of the roadmeet on Sunday to get this:

(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432779_10213819340550140_9088055879558758400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGU5tF6FkoPj323C81b65QWGMQ4xFVCwwIYcObQc02rKN02ZLHVkapr7sAbc_tVo2_a3A2HsYDNlI5dMd9j9Zd5gIU_f8ZfbVeq-oIUGqoG2g&oh=816e67d36a1ac968de397fa30fa38552&oe=5B4BDB62)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 20, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:28 PM
I retraced part of the roadmeet on Sunday to get this:

(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432779_10213819340550140_9088055879558758400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGU5tF6FkoPj323C81b65QWGMQ4xFVCwwIYcObQc02rKN02ZLHVkapr7sAbc_tVo2_a3A2HsYDNlI5dMd9j9Zd5gIU_f8ZfbVeq-oIUGqoG2g&oh=816e67d36a1ac968de397fa30fa38552&oe=5B4BDB62)


Inverted colors, interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 20, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:28 PM
I retraced part of the roadmeet on Sunday to get this:

(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432779_10213819340550140_9088055879558758400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGU5tF6FkoPj323C81b65QWGMQ4xFVCwwIYcObQc02rKN02ZLHVkapr7sAbc_tVo2_a3A2HsYDNlI5dMd9j9Zd5gIU_f8ZfbVeq-oIUGqoG2g&oh=816e67d36a1ac968de397fa30fa38552&oe=5B4BDB62)


Inverted colors, interesting.

The overall design is more like an exit sign shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on March 20, 2018, 11:50:11 PM
My apologies if this has already been shared

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/152F1/production/_100496768_collage2.jpg)

Source (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-43470241?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_oxford&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=english_regions)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 21, 2018, 06:55:57 AM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:28 PM
I retraced part of the roadmeet on Sunday to get this:

(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432779_10213819340550140_9088055879558758400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGU5tF6FkoPj323C81b65QWGMQ4xFVCwwIYcObQc02rKN02ZLHVkapr7sAbc_tVo2_a3A2HsYDNlI5dMd9j9Zd5gIU_f8ZfbVeq-oIUGqoG2g&oh=816e67d36a1ac968de397fa30fa38552&oe=5B4BDB62)


Inverted colors, interesting.

The overall design is more like an exit sign shield.

It is indeed. Maybe it's because I am a Louisianian, but this goes in my definition of "worst of". I have never liked these exit ramp shields.

But it gets worse than this nowadays. Just wait til I get shots of what has been put up lately by DOTD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrcmc888 on March 22, 2018, 12:34:51 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 21, 2018, 06:55:57 AM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:28 PM
I retraced part of the roadmeet on Sunday to get this:

(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432779_10213819340550140_9088055879558758400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGU5tF6FkoPj323C81b65QWGMQ4xFVCwwIYcObQc02rKN02ZLHVkapr7sAbc_tVo2_a3A2HsYDNlI5dMd9j9Zd5gIU_f8ZfbVeq-oIUGqoG2g&oh=816e67d36a1ac968de397fa30fa38552&oe=5B4BDB62)


Inverted colors, interesting.

The overall design is more like an exit sign shield.

It is indeed. Maybe it's because I am a Louisianian, but this goes in my definition of "worst of". I have never liked these exit ramp shields.

But it gets worse than this nowadays. Just wait til I get shots of what has been put up lately by DOTD.
I agree with you...I have never liked JCT shields on exit ramps.  They're more than a little redundant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 22, 2018, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 20, 2018, 04:54:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/40926526931/in/dateposted-public/

What is interesting about this one is the fact that FL 437 is only one city block long concurrent with FL 438.  The only reason its here is because just ahead FL 437 becomes County Road 437 and where this sign is located is state maintained for this very short overlap.
Actually I found something else interesting about these shields.  The arrows beneath them, although common in some areas, this one has FL 438 turn beyond it as well as FL 437 end ahead.  So really this could be erroneous in another way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 23, 2018, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: mrcmc888 on March 22, 2018, 12:34:51 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 21, 2018, 06:55:57 AM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 20, 2018, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 20, 2018, 09:31:28 PM
I retraced part of the roadmeet on Sunday to get this:

(https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29432779_10213819340550140_9088055879558758400_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeGU5tF6FkoPj323C81b65QWGMQ4xFVCwwIYcObQc02rKN02ZLHVkapr7sAbc_tVo2_a3A2HsYDNlI5dMd9j9Zd5gIU_f8ZfbVeq-oIUGqoG2g&oh=816e67d36a1ac968de397fa30fa38552&oe=5B4BDB62)


Inverted colors, interesting.

The overall design is more like an exit sign shield.

It is indeed. Maybe it's because I am a Louisianian, but this goes in my definition of "worst of". I have never liked these exit ramp shields.

But it gets worse than this nowadays. Just wait til I get shots of what has been put up lately by DOTD.
I agree with you...I have never liked JCT shields on exit ramps.  They're more than a little redundant.

This sign is on LA 1. We don't have JCT banners on our exit ramps. I have no idea why DOTD put these signs at this intersection (both directions).

Who puts JCT bannered signs on exit ramps?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 23, 2018, 06:16:58 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 23, 2018, 05:26:51 PM


This sign is on LA 1. We don't have JCT banners on our exit ramps. I have no idea why DOTD put these signs at this intersection (both directions).


My guess is it was an independent contractor when the road was 4-Laned. Contractor signs are often "different" &/or ugly
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on March 23, 2018, 06:50:23 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 23, 2018, 05:26:51 PM
Who puts JCT bannered signs on exit ramps?

I wouldn't say it's common, necessarily, but I have seen Georgia do it (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5860685,-84.3815086,3a,75y,128h,83.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSovyd5DWAarACdjXJTrbOg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 23, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Missing it's scenic route placard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 23, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
Something worse than the 169 sign  :o  :-D
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 23, 2018, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 23, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
Something worse than the 169 sign  :o  :-D
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)

You noticed how that ugly thing was gone when you were here last week right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 23, 2018, 10:34:27 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 23, 2018, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 23, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
Something worse than the 169 sign  :o  :-D
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)

You noticed how that ugly thing was gone when you were here last week right?

Been gone about 8 years, I think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 24, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 23, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Missing it's scenic route placard.

They were also missing a straight-edge when they applied the numerals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 24, 2018, 12:31:56 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 24, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 23, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Missing it's scenic route placard.

They were also missing a straight-edge when they applied the numerals.

It makes me think its a fairly old shield and might be reflective paint with vinyl numbers.  That's a common error with a lot of the earlier green California spades. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on March 24, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 23, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Missing it's scenic route placard.

That's the most logical explanation however, the "END" placard should have been white-on-blue and all lowercase.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 24, 2018, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on March 24, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 23, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Missing it's scenic route placard.

That's the most logical explanation however, the "END" placard should have been white-on-blue and all lowercase.

The one up Pacheco Pass to the west is correct:

https://flic.kr/p/Ybgp64

The real question I've always had is what made Caltrans and legislature think CA 152 over Pacheco Pass deserved to be designated as a scenic route?   It's kind of neat seeing the reservoir but 152 sure can't hold a candle to 198 or 130 in the Diablo Range for scenery. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on March 24, 2018, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 24, 2018, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: myosh_tino on March 24, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 23, 2018, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on March 23, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
What's up with this END SR152 sign at I-5?

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0566381,-120.9722302,3a,75y,110.19h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFiajF2xjERREnS_Y7tqnBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Missing it's scenic route placard.

That's the most logical explanation however, the "END" placard should have been white-on-blue and all lowercase.

The one up Pacheco Pass to the west is correct:

https://flic.kr/p/Ybgp64

The real question I've always had is what made Caltrans and legislature think CA 152 over Pacheco Pass deserved to be designated as a scenic route?   It's kind of neat seeing the reservoir but 152 sure can't hold a candle to 198 or 130 in the Diablo Range for scenery.

I presume the scenic route designation is because of the San Luis Reservoir but I'm surprised that it was not extended west to the Gilroy city limits as I find that stretch of 152 just as scenic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on March 25, 2018, 01:56:12 AM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/806/39190887390_e444aa58db_b.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/22Haxr1)Car-Hop Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/22Haxr1) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

While I was in Hot Springs earlier today, I decided to stop at a Sonic drive-in. Afterwards, I saw this sign, so I decided to take a picture of it.

I'll also include this one as well.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/820/40291014184_f8f0c4540a_z.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/24onYNm)Road work on US-70 (https://flic.kr/p/24onYNm) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I-30 Northbound in southern Saline County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 25, 2018, 10:15:18 AM
Something I noticed on my Wikipedia photography crusade in November 2017 when I was taking pictures of the Country Life Press LIRR station;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:05-Country_Life_Press_LIRR;_2017-11-15.jpg
That tunnel is in the development between the Hempstead Branch and the former section of the West Hempstead Branch, and you can see a bit of the One Way sign pointing south at the intersection of Franklin Court and 6th Place. Now, if you know that area, you know that Franklin Court is a one-way street around the former and existing railroad ROWs, and 6th Place is one-way westbound from there;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7200641,-73.6284888,3a,75y,60.52h,96.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjZSeIucEtABpKtERA1AHwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

But if you didn't already know better, you'd think they were ordering you to turn into whoever lives in that driveway.

Maybe an aerial shot would make more sense;
https://www.google.com/maps/place/40°43'16.4%22N+73°37'45.9%22W/@40.7206326,-73.6297341,450m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d40.721234!4d-73.629405?hl=en

Quote from: US71 on March 23, 2018, 10:01:41 PM
Something worse than the 169 sign  :o  :-D
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)
I take it they had plans for other signs beneath it.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on March 25, 2018, 04:40:10 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 25, 2018, 01:56:12 AM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/806/39190887390_e444aa58db_b.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/22Haxr1)Car-Hop Crossing (https://flic.kr/p/22Haxr1) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

While I was in Hot Springs earlier today, I decided to stop at a Sonic drive-in. Afterwards, I saw this sign, so I decided to take a picture of it.

I like that one. Kind of a unique thing but gets the point across.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 25, 2018, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 link=topic=11045.msg2313678#msg2313678 date=1521987318

quote author=US71 link=topic=11045.msg2313437#msg2313437 date=1521856901]
Something worse than the 169 sign  :o  :-D
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)
I take it they had plans for other signs beneath it.

[/quote]

I don't think so. I believe it was an extra bracket from when these signs were put up a few blocks away:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5147247,-93.746499,0a,75y,321.88h,88.73t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stFcnpwSC31Ti4q47x8ZEIw!2e0

I also believe the LA 1 shields put up at this intersection were the very first black & white shields ever seen in the state. I think these were put up in the early 90s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: busman_49 on March 26, 2018, 02:26:22 PM
Seen in a construction zone on I-65 in Indiana.  Pretty sure this is a first for me...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/785/39224103430_70c86c30e2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22L6Mpm)Road noise (https://flic.kr/p/22L6Mpm) by Ryan busman_49 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 29, 2018, 07:58:35 PM
Oh no...it came back from the dead:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/811/27228641148_629fd81758.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hu6Uo9)Ugly LA 532 shields at exit 52. (https://flic.kr/p/Hu6Uo9) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Back in the 80, there was a very similar design of state shields posted on most of the exits on LA 3132 & I-220. It looks as though Mississippi took over all of the Louisiana delta land up to Monroe, and the Florida parishes decided to take back the Florida panhandle. This new one doesn't look as bad as those in the 80s, but still not that great either. Sticker on the back is dated 2/15.

So...can it get worse? Let's see:


(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/863/40391764614_8619f5e566.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24xhmoJ)Ugly, 4-digit-peeling LA state shield. North of Ruston. (https://flic.kr/p/24xhmoJ) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Yes it can. I don't know why LaDOTD is starting to use 30x24 shields. Most non-Louisianians would say a 4-digit route needs a 30x24. We don't. How old is this sign you ask? The date is 12/6/17. Do the math...that sign has only been there 4 months!

What does a 3-digit sign look like on 30x24?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/815/41101713991_76b87746f0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25C22Be)3-digit shield on 30x24. LA 146 @ I-20, Ruston. (https://flic.kr/p/25C22Be) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Can you see where (I believe) the ugly comes from? Using the 24x24 LA 146 to the left, you can see that the sign shop used the same font on both sizes of shields. This creates lots of extra bare real estate.

Did DOTD actually put a 2-digit route on 30x24???

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/901/40391767564_f5bffb36c9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24xhngA)LA 15 using 30x24 shield. Lillie, LA. (https://flic.kr/p/24xhngA) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Yep. Sure did. This seems like such a waste of money & material. The money used for these 30x24 shields could have been spent on more durable GREEN & WHITE 24x24 shields.

Just my opinion.  :angry:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 29, 2018, 10:46:55 PM
I honestly feel like they should just give up and make the shield a giant "L". It would be much easier and reflect the sorry state of their ability.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 29, 2018, 11:06:59 PM
The thing I really don't understand is how Louisiana seems to have such abundant problems with peeling digits compared to all the other states. Is the climate of Louisiana really that terrible? Or do they just really suck that much at making shields?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 29, 2018, 11:22:13 PM
The High Speed Rail Project around Fresno has bared strange fruit with these weird CA 99 shields:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/886/41106056691_dcd8eaf224_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25Cphxn)99CAa (https://flic.kr/p/25Cphxn) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on March 29, 2018, 11:36:17 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4779/39190891610_dc1a769448_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/22HayFL)Hot Springs Custom Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/22HayFL) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Dark blue speed limit sign in Hot Springs. (City Speed Limit)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 30, 2018, 02:26:51 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 29, 2018, 11:36:17 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4779/39190891610_dc1a769448_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/22HayFL)Hot Springs Custom Speed Limit Sign (https://flic.kr/p/22HayFL) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Dark blue speed limit sign in Hot Springs. (City Speed Limit)
I didn't know speed limits were a service! :-D :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 30, 2018, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 29, 2018, 11:06:59 PM
The thing I really don't understand is how Louisiana seems to have such abundant problems with peeling digits compared to all the other states. Is the climate of Louisiana really that terrible? Or do they just really suck that much at making shields?

Ever since DOTD changed to the black & white shields, the black vinyl digits are thinner & more flimsy than what was used for the white digits. It's not just on state shields either.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5626/29762724653_790d71c80d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mm2K84)Peeling weight limit digits. (https://flic.kr/p/Mm2K84) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: signalman on March 30, 2018, 08:17:55 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 30, 2018, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 29, 2018, 11:06:59 PM
The thing I really don't understand is how Louisiana seems to have such abundant problems with peeling digits compared to all the other states. Is the climate of Louisiana really that terrible? Or do they just really suck that much at making shields?

Ever since DOTD changed to the black & white shields, the black vinyl digits are thinner & more flimsy than what was used for the white digits. It's not just on state shields either.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5626/29762724653_790d71c80d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mm2K84)Peeling weight limit digits. (https://flic.kr/p/Mm2K84) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Is that sign relatively new too?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 30, 2018, 05:39:19 PM
Quote from: signalman on March 30, 2018, 08:17:55 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 30, 2018, 07:42:19 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 29, 2018, 11:06:59 PM
The thing I really don't understand is how Louisiana seems to have such abundant problems with peeling digits compared to all the other states. Is the climate of Louisiana really that terrible? Or do they just really suck that much at making shields?

Ever since DOTD changed to the black & white shields, the black vinyl digits are thinner & more flimsy than what was used for the white digits. It's not just on state shields either.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5626/29762724653_790d71c80d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mm2K84)Peeling weight limit digits. (https://flic.kr/p/Mm2K84) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Is that sign relatively new too?

At the time of the photo, it was less than 1 year old.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on March 31, 2018, 07:46:28 PM
Pulaski/Perry county line, Arkansas.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/899/27271979158_bd54ba9e5e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HxW2gd)Horse Trailers Turning (https://flic.kr/p/HxW2gd) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sandwalk on March 31, 2018, 10:26:51 PM
Perkins Township, Ohio
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F34i09qa.jpg&hash=75e55e7066dc21dd861baf6b5da983f54c5ccdd2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on March 31, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
I'm not sure if this sign assembly (https://goo.gl/maps/e9aytmvMaHP2) was put up by PennDOT or the DRJTBC, but whichever one seems to have forgotten the point of exit tabs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 01, 2018, 05:49:27 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 29, 2018, 11:06:59 PM
The thing I really don't understand is how Louisiana seems to have such abundant problems with peeling digits compared to all the other states. Is the climate of Louisiana really that terrible? Or do they just really suck that much at making shields?

Most other states print the digits on at the time the rest of the shield is printed. LA seems to be printing blank shields and then adding the numbers as vinyl stickers. (Note that the "LA" isn't peeling off, because it's printed.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 01, 2018, 07:38:30 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 30, 2018, 02:26:51 AM
I didn't know speed limits were a service! :-D :pan:
And I was starting to think "City Speed Limits" was just a New York thing.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 01, 2018, 07:47:49 AM
Quote from: Roadsguy on March 31, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
I'm not sure if this sign assembly (https://goo.gl/maps/e9aytmvMaHP2) was put up by PennDOT or the DRJTBC, but whichever one seems to have forgotten the point of exit tabs.

I suppose you can actually defend that by saying it serves as additional confirmation that the exit is indeed on the right side. Maybe not entirely necessary, but not completely useless either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 01, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Eth on April 01, 2018, 07:47:49 AM
Quote from: Roadsguy on March 31, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
I'm not sure if this sign assembly (https://goo.gl/maps/e9aytmvMaHP2) was put up by PennDOT or the DRJTBC, but whichever one seems to have forgotten the point of exit tabs.

I suppose you can actually defend that by saying it serves as additional confirmation that the exit is indeed on the right side. Maybe not entirely necessary, but not completely useless either.

Par for the course in PA.   PennDot has had BGSs with unnumbered EXIT tabs for decades.  That photo is just the 21st Century version.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 04, 2018, 07:32:28 AM
I posted one of these pictures in the city name game, and because it's kind of interesting, I thought I'd post the full thing here. This is at the back of the intersection of Stearns CR-10 and 41, which is just a few hundred feet south of the south end of MN-238 (the interchange with I-94 in Albany (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6266833,-94.5762106,17z)). Just... the density of information is impressive.

(https://i.imgur.com/Lz7ZJj1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QcoXoZd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8rhBHh4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SXNvB35.jpg)

Google StreetView link. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6258634,-94.5768651,3a,75y,212.09h,91.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL-Au-6FFQ4uBora6_8OImw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on April 04, 2018, 09:32:44 AM
Found this in the suburbs Northeast of Denver. Never thought such a thing existed...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F62Yn9iM.jpg&hash=6dfc96436da7e572c2b0ef5da98a16f4339242ab)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 04, 2018, 10:03:06 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on April 04, 2018, 09:32:44 AM
Found this in the suburbs Northeast of Denver. Never thought such a thing existed...

I'm assuming you're talking about the double-suffixed street name? I've seen those all over the place in central Florida (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.2688547,-82.1939438,15.39z), for those instances where they absolutely insist on maintaining the grid-based naming convention even for roads that aren't remotely straight.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 04, 2018, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 04, 2018, 07:32:28 AM
I posted one of these pictures in the city name game, and because it's kind of interesting, I thought I'd post the full thing here. This is at the back of the intersection of Stearns CR-10 and 41, which is just a few hundred feet south of the south end of MN-238 (the interchange with I-94 in Albany (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6266833,-94.5762106,17z)). Just... the density of information is impressive.

https://i.imgur.com/Lz7ZJj1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QcoXoZd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8rhBHh4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SXNvB35.jpg

Google StreetView link. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6258634,-94.5768651,3a,75y,212.09h,91.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL-Au-6FFQ4uBora6_8OImw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Bloody unreal. What's with the "Sterns Co Hwy Dept" control city?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 04, 2018, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 04, 2018, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 04, 2018, 07:32:28 AM
I posted one of these pictures in the city name game, and because it's kind of interesting, I thought I'd post the full thing here. This is at the back of the intersection of Stearns CR-10 and 41, which is just a few hundred feet south of the south end of MN-238 (the interchange with I-94 in Albany (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6266833,-94.5762106,17z)). Just... the density of information is impressive.

https://i.imgur.com/Lz7ZJj1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QcoXoZd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8rhBHh4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SXNvB35.jpg

Google StreetView link. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6258634,-94.5768651,3a,75y,212.09h,91.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sL-Au-6FFQ4uBora6_8OImw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Bloody unreal. What's with the "Sterns Co Hwy Dept" control city?

Probably just the Highway Dept advertising itself on one of its own signs. I can't imagine it's terribly useful to know for the average motorist, though it might be useful for delivery trucks and the like.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 05, 2018, 02:12:36 AM
That's stupidly well put together for a county road department, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 05, 2018, 03:05:23 AM
The cherry on top: about a quarter mile west of that intersection, CR-10 turns southward, away from paralleling I-94. For some reason, the shield and arrow are mounted on a green background.

(https://i.imgur.com/FfgqrdH.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on April 05, 2018, 03:14:44 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 05, 2018, 02:12:36 AM
That's stupidly well put together for a county road department, though.

A lot of people who haven't been to Minnesota or spent limited time on our county roads express to me how amazed they are at their quality. There are many places where the county road is better quality than any nearby state highways; obviously some counties do it better than others.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 05, 2018, 03:27:51 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 05, 2018, 03:14:44 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 05, 2018, 02:12:36 AM
That's stupidly well put together for a county road department, though.
A lot of people who haven't been to Minnesota or spent limited time on our county roads express to me how amazed they are at their quality. There are many places where the county road is better quality than any nearby state highways; obviously some counties do it better than others.

Personally, I love both Isanti and Anoka Counties (and it's not just because that's where I'm from ;-)), because both counties put directional banners on most, if not all, of their county roads, which is normally a rare quality even within Minnesota. It's a small thing, but to me, taking the time to sign them shows an above-average level of care.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 07, 2018, 12:09:45 AM
I don't know if you guys find this as unique as I do, but every single word on this sign is 4 letters long.

(Taken on April 3rd, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/814/27347439938_ea1b2eef38_k.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/HEAM89)Bald Knob Lake Road (https://flic.kr/p/HEAM89) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 07, 2018, 12:13:12 AM
CA 227 shields with no "California" in the crest:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/819/27391095308_e838646dc5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HJswkW)227CAg (https://flic.kr/p/HJswkW) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/806/41220742592_1f682a04cb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25Nx5Eu)227CAf (https://flic.kr/p/25Nx5Eu) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 07, 2018, 12:09:45 AM
I don't know if you guys find this as unique as I do, but every single word on this sign is 4 letters long.

(Taken on April 3rd, 2018)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/814/27347439938_ea1b2eef38_k.jpg

"Bald knob" sounds like one of those place names that would get a Briton laughing.

Definitely an interesting ocurrence, though.

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 05, 2018, 03:27:51 AM
Personally, I love both Isanti and Anoka Counties (and it's not just because that's where I'm from ;-)), because both counties put directional banners on most, if not all, of their county roads, which is normally a rare quality even within Minnesota. It's a small thing, but to me, taking the time to sign them shows an above-average level of care.

What do you mean by "directional banners"? Do some county shields not have directional banners? Or another type of sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 07, 2018, 04:04:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 05, 2018, 03:27:51 AM
Personally, I love both Isanti and Anoka Counties (and it's not just because that's where I'm from ;-)), because both counties put directional banners on most, if not all, of their county roads, which is normally a rare quality even within Minnesota. It's a small thing, but to me, taking the time to sign them shows an above-average level of care.
What do you mean by "directional banners"? Do some county shields not have directional banners? Or another type of sign?

It means what it sounds like.  ;-)

(https://i.imgur.com/pA7QylN.jpg)

Minnesota's county route system is rather good, but not all counties put directions on their markers, like in the picture. I'd say there are more that don't than those that do, actually.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 07, 2018, 04:04:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 05, 2018, 03:27:51 AM
Personally, I love both Isanti and Anoka Counties (and it's not just because that's where I'm from ;-)), because both counties put directional banners on most, if not all, of their county roads, which is normally a rare quality even within Minnesota. It's a small thing, but to me, taking the time to sign them shows an above-average level of care.
What do you mean by "directional banners"? Do some county shields not have directional banners? Or another type of sign?

It means what it sounds like.  ;-)

(https://i.imgur.com/pA7QylN.jpg)

Minnesota's county route system is rather good, but not all counties put directions on their markers, like in the picture. I'd say there are more that don't than those that do, actually.

Interesting. I've mentioned before about this being rare in my area, so I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. I can't recall ever seeing a route marker without a directional banner on it, so it seems odd to give someone credit for using it...shouldn't they always be using it!? :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on April 07, 2018, 06:55:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 04:00:02 PMI can't recall ever seeing a route marker without a directional banner on it, so it seems odd to give someone credit for using it...shouldn't they always be using it!? :-D

Kentucky's District 3 (Bowling Green) is notorious for posting reassurance markers without directional banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 07, 2018, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
Interesting. I've mentioned before about this being rare in my area, so I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. I can't recall ever seeing a route marker without a directional banner on it, so it seems odd to give someone credit for using it...shouldn't they always be using it!? :-D

In an ideal world, yes, but I suspect for a lot of counties, not posting them is one way of saving a bit of dough on signage costs. Especially in large counties, like Itasca and St. Louis, where they have hundreds of numbered county roads (the latter has almost 1000 - I assume they didn't number this one CR-995 (https://i.imgur.com/kvSP5lc.jpg) just because they liked the number! :-P), or for counties that have a lot of roads that zig-zag and don't primarily go along one directional axis.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 07, 2018, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 07, 2018, 06:55:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 04:00:02 PMI can't recall ever seeing a route marker without a directional banner on it, so it seems odd to give someone credit for using it...shouldn't they always be using it!? :-D

Kentucky's District 3 (Bowling Green) is notorious for posting reassurance markers without directional banners.

I always used to call this practice "South Carolina style", because that was the only state where I ever saw it. More recently, I've seen it in a few places here in the Atlanta area, but it's still not common by any means.

(State highways in both cases, just to be clear; neither state has signed county roads, at least in the traditional sense.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on April 07, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
Some counties in southeastern North Carolina also have bannerless primary route postings at intersections.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on April 07, 2018, 08:34:26 PM
in NJ, 600-series county routes are more likely than not to be without directional banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on April 07, 2018, 11:00:37 PM
These are all over Downtown Orlando's residential neighborhoods.

(https://i.imgur.com/peuGneB.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 07, 2018, 11:13:13 PM
Maybe not terribly unusual, but Stearns CR-75, in the vicinity of St. Joseph, MN has these signs posted near a couple of bridges:

(https://i.imgur.com/FBEhiHB.jpg)

Also interesting, on that very same road, was this sign after crossing the St. Joseph city limits. People from Minnesota might recognize this sign, as they were posted for various qualifying cities across the state, but I thought pretty much all of them were taken down years ago. This one still exists, however.

(https://i.imgur.com/AJynYMv.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 12:17:06 AM
Quote from: Eth on April 07, 2018, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 07, 2018, 06:55:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 07, 2018, 04:00:02 PM
I can't recall ever seeing a route marker without a directional banner on it, so it seems odd to give someone credit for using it...shouldn't they always be using it!? :-D

Kentucky's District 3 (Bowling Green) is notorious for posting reassurance markers without directional banners.

I always used to call this practice "South Carolina style", because that was the only state where I ever saw it. More recently, I've seen it in a few places here in the Atlanta area, but it's still not common by any means.

(State highways in both cases, just to be clear; neither state has signed county roads, at least in the traditional sense.)

I'd like to clarify that I'm aware of other places not using directional banners (be it on a large or small scale). I was referring specifically to Washington in my comment above (post #3300), which makes a bit more sense when you include the first part of the quote that was cut out: "I've mentioned before about this being rare in my area, so I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly".

On second thought, never mind "rare". I'm not aware of any route shields without directional banners anywhere in Washington. Same for BC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6686187,-82.1386719,3a,15y,132.32h,89.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc2kepJ4ImPA0cAj4jX7fTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I don't know why but I love this.

Post Edit: Here's another one that I found at the very, very end of the Dalton Highway in Northern Alaska https://www.google.com/maps/@70.2066984,-148.4396998,3a,15y,58.77h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYoTK7kqAdoMyeJ-Wois-Tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6686187,-82.1386719,3a,15y,132.32h,89.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc2kepJ4ImPA0cAj4jX7fTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I don't know why but I love this.

I've seen this posted here before, but I can't remember when or where. I think we came to the conclusion that it wasn't enforceable. Or at least I did, since the colors are incorrect for a speed limit sign, and the design is incorrect for an advisory limit sign.

Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
Post Edit: Here's another one that I found at the very, very end of the Dalton Highway in Northern Alaska https://www.google.com/maps/@70.2066984,-148.4396998,3a,15y,58.77h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYoTK7kqAdoMyeJ-Wois-Tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's taking the optional flourescent-yellow/green color to a new level (a non-permitted level, that is).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 08, 2018, 12:34:10 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
Post Edit: Here's another one that I found at the very, very end of the Dalton Highway in Northern Alaska https://www.google.com/maps/@70.2066984,-148.4396998,3a,15y,58.77h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYoTK7kqAdoMyeJ-Wois-Tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's taking the optional flourescent-yellow/green color to a new level (a non-permitted level, that is).

I imagine it's that color for the purpose of standing out against snow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 02:33:25 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 08, 2018, 12:34:10 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
Post Edit: Here's another one that I found at the very, very end of the Dalton Highway in Northern Alaska https://www.google.com/maps/@70.2066984,-148.4396998,3a,15y,58.77h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYoTK7kqAdoMyeJ-Wois-Tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's taking the optional flourescent-yellow/green color to a new level (a non-permitted level, that is).

I imagine it's that color for the purpose of standing out against snow.

Could be. I've proposed highway shields for Washington State with a similar color scheme for just that purpose:

Warning: Shameless Self Promotion ahead...

Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 02:23:06 AM
Made some additional modifications. Tightened up the top-side radii to make the cardinal direction and arrows look less ridiculous...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNDxJPLX.png&hash=91f8e8863ec725c2c13faeb6bfcbfbf6810e33c1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:12 AM
New APL, Georgian in its level of screwed-uppedness, though I think that even GDOT hasn't made this particular mistake.This is very recent- - it's a still from the last of FreewayJim's new Birmingham videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qgWNfnvjtU). This APL replaces a fondly-regarded slatted installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5208398,-86.8423161,3a,75y,88.02h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIX9S3cWmBZnw7_AcnEPdDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) with an outdated (but arguably easier to understand) design. The linked Streetview is from July 2016: the latest, from April 2017, shows no overhead at all.  :-o
(https://i.imgur.com/VTk843z.png?1)


The plot thickens: codyg1985 supplied this from the plans he'd downloaded. Correctly designed, incorrectly implemented. WTF?  :hmmm:
(https://i.imgur.com/xx2tNgK.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 08, 2018, 11:08:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 02:33:25 AM
Could be. I've proposed highway shields for Washington State with a similar color scheme for just that purpose:

Warning: Shameless Self Promotion ahead...

[image quote snipped]

I really like that middle one. I do wish that more states would experiment with non-square/rectangular shields–that would allow for a ton more variety between states. But, as with all cool ideas, it comes down to cost... :-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on April 08, 2018, 11:27:30 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:12 AM
New APL, Georgian in its level of screwed-uppedness, though I think that even GDOT hasn't made this particular mistake.This is very recent- - it's a still from url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qgWNfnvjtU]the last of FreewayJim's new Birmingham videos[/url]. This APL replaces a fondly-regarded slatted installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5208398,-86.8423161,3a,75y,88.02h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIX9S3cWmBZnw7_AcnEPdDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) with an outdated (but arguably easier to understand) design. The linked Streetview is from July 2016: the latest, from April 2017, shows no overhead at all.  :-o
(https://i.imgur.com/VTk843z.png?1)


The plot thickens: codyg1985 supplied this from the plans he'd downloaded. Correctly designed, incorrectly implemented. WTF?  :hmmm:
(https://i.imgur.com/xx2tNgK.jpg?1)

That is a lot of wasted metal & materials. The old slotted signs had it right the first time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 08, 2018, 11:30:01 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:12 AM
New APL, Georgian in its level of screwed-uppedness, though I think that even GDOT hasn't made this particular mistake.This is very recent- - it's a still from url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qgWNfnvjtU]the last of FreewayJim's new Birmingham videos[/url]. This APL replaces a fondly-regarded slatted installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5208398,-86.8423161,3a,75y,88.02h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIX9S3cWmBZnw7_AcnEPdDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) with an outdated (but arguably easier to understand) design. The linked Streetview is from July 2016: the latest, from April 2017, shows no overhead at all.  :-o
(https://i.imgur.com/VTk843z.png?1)

Okay, I'll bite -- what's technically "screwed up" with this?  It appears there's no option lane for the left exit, so why is it a mistake for it to be on a separate sign?  (Plans and readability aside.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 08, 2018, 12:37:03 PM
I'm gonna go with "someone at ALDOT realized the originally-designed version was so big it would kill a dozen people if it fell for any reason" and chose this as a compromise. Not that this is much better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 08, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 08, 2018, 12:37:03 PM
I'm gonna go with "someone at ALDOT realized the originally-designed version was so big it would kill a dozen people if it fell for any reason" and chose this as a compromise. Not that this is much better.

I'm pretty sure that's still true even for the slightly reduced main panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 08, 2018, 01:25:44 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 08, 2018, 12:37:03 PM
I'm gonna go with "someone at ALDOT realized the originally-designed version was so big it would kill a dozen people if it fell for any reason" and chose this as a compromise. Not that this is much better.

I don't think the killability of a sign or structure is taken into account.  They design it to not fall in the first place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 08, 2018, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:12 AM
New APL, Georgian in its level of screwed-uppedness, though I think that even GDOT hasn't made this particular mistake.This is very recent- - it's a still from url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qgWNfnvjtU]the last of FreewayJim's new Birmingham videos[/url]. This APL replaces a fondly-regarded slatted installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5208398,-86.8423161,3a,75y,88.02h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIX9S3cWmBZnw7_AcnEPdDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) with an outdated (but arguably easier to understand) design. The linked Streetview is from July 2016: the latest, from April 2017, shows no overhead at all.  :-o
(https://i.imgur.com/VTk843z.png?1)


The plot thickens: codyg1985 supplied this from the plans he'd downloaded. Correctly designed, incorrectly implemented. WTF?  :hmmm:
(https://i.imgur.com/xx2tNgK.jpg?1)

Interesting that the plan spec doesn't show the destination name letter heights correctly, but it was done correctly on the actual sign.

What's really surprising to me is that neither of these puts the I-20 and I-59 shields on the same line, despite there being plenty of space to do so. It would have saved at least 120 square feet of unnecessary material area on the big panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on April 08, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 08, 2018, 03:43:12 PM

Interesting that the plan spec doesn't show the destination name letter heights correctly, but it was done correctly on the actual sign.

What's really surprising to me is that neither of these puts the I-20 and I-59 shields on the same line, despite there being plenty of space to do so. It would have saved at least 120 square feet of unnecessary material area on the big panel.

Exactly what I was thinking. Is it a MUTCD no-no to do that with the shields?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:12 AM
New APL, Georgian in its level of screwed-uppedness, though I think that even GDOT hasn't made this particular mistake.This is very recent...

https://i.imgur.com/VTk843z.png?1

The height is absurd, given that the 20/59 shields could be placed next to each other (as pointed out above by roadfro), but I think it's important to give ALDOT some credit here. The left exit could have been part of the sign, as the plan specs indicated. But ALDOT went a step further and made it into it's own sign, and I think that's actually a brilliant move. I wish that was standard practice. There's no reason it needed to be part of the larger APL. The sign would be better if the left and right panels were the same height, but it's a step in the right direction. Although also a step back putting the shields on top of each other. :ded:

Quote from: cjk374 on April 08, 2018, 04:15:04 PM
Is it a MUTCD no-no to [put shields next to each other]?

Definitely not. I see it all the time. I think it's more common for the cardinal direction to be placed over the shield in those instances, but I'm sure I've seen signs where it was [shield][cardinal_direction][gap][shield][cardinal_direction].
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 08, 2018, 04:31:59 PM
That APL sign appears to be in Alabama by Birmingham. Can't blame GDOT for that one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on April 08, 2018, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 08, 2018, 04:31:59 PM
That APL sign appears to be in Alabama by Birmingham. Can't blame GDOT for that one.

I think he meant it was just similar to a lot of mistakes that GDOT has made on its signs, and that he was surprised Georgia had not made that particular mistake, but not that those actual signs in the picture were in Georgia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 06:20:40 PM
This arrow seems... a little bit big. I guess that's a good thing.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/865/39518038030_d5565a470f_q.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/23d5gVh)Large Arrow (https://flic.kr/p/23d5gVh) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 08, 2018, 11:30:01 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:44:12 AM
New APL, Georgian in its level of screwed-uppedness, though I think that even GDOT hasn't made this particular mistake.This is very recent- - it's a still from url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qgWNfnvjtU]the last of FreewayJim's new Birmingham videos[/url]. This APL replaces a fondly-regarded slatted installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.5208398,-86.8423161,3a,75y,88.02h,102.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIX9S3cWmBZnw7_AcnEPdDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) with an outdated (but arguably easier to understand) design. The linked Streetview is from July 2016: the latest, from April 2017, shows no overhead at all.  :-o
(https://i.imgur.com/VTk843z.png?1)

Okay, I'll bite -- what's technically "screwed up" with this?  It appears there's no option lane for the left exit, so why is it a mistake for it to be on a separate sign?  (Plans and readability aside.)

Indeed, with no option lane, the left exit should be on a separate sign-- and said sign should be of conventional design, with a standard black-on-yellow exit only placard with a downward-pointing arrow. There's no standalone sign with an APL-style arrow in the MUTCD. In fact, the only one I remember seeing is this one, created by splitting a badly-flawed APL in two because it was causing gore incursions and near misses on a nearly continuous basis. That's also part of why it put me in mind of of the kind of thing GDOT might do.
(https://i.imgur.com/S7sxMEL.jpg?1)


Quote from: roadfroInteresting that the plan spec doesn't show the destination name letter heights correctly, but it was done correctly on the actual sign.

Yeah, but that's a side issue.  :D

Quote from: roadfroWhat's really surprising to me is that neither of these puts the I-20 and I-59 shields on the same line, despite there being plenty of space to do so. It would have saved at least 120 square feet of unnecessary material area on the big panel.

Me, too. I guess it's an Alabama thing, because they do it consistently. I think it looks odd and wasteful with conventional signage, too.

Quote from: jakerootThe height is absurd, given that the 20/59 shields could be placed next to each other (as pointed out above by roadfro), but I think it's important to give ALDOT some credit here. The left exit could have been part of the sign, as the plan specs indicated. But ALDOT went a step further and made it into it's own sign, and I think that's actually a brilliant move. I wish that was standard practice.

But it is standard practice. They just need to do it correctly.

After all of that, I'm not at all convinced that they should've used APL's at all, even with the option lane for exit 124B, partly because of the unfavorable comparison in clarity between this and its slatted predecessor, partly because of the difficulty of addressing exit 124A and what may or may not be exit 124D to streets in the Civic Center area, which will be very close to the later I-65 exit.

:hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 08, 2018, 11:10:51 PM
The multiplex of CA 166 East/CA 33 North towards Maricopa has some unusually exacting cautionary signs showing the current grade percentage on the downhill descent.  Generally you only get the standard down hill grade sign that "might" have the grade percentage and nothing this elaborate:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/809/26392634757_6c9a20ac3d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Gde9NR)IMG_4666 (https://flic.kr/p/Gde9NR) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 09, 2018, 12:55:55 AM
What I find curious about that is, how much of a practical difference does that one percent make? Why not just say there's a seven percent grade ahead, thus simplifying the message? I don't think there's really a case for needing to be so specific.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 09, 2018, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 09, 2018, 12:55:55 AM
What I find curious about that is, how much of a practical difference does that one percent make? Why not just say there's a seven percent grade ahead, thus simplifying the message? I don't think there's really a case for needing to be so specific.

Usually that's all you get is the 7% grade and nothing more.  After that there are additional big signs like that one that even display a 4% grade for some reason.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 09, 2018, 11:56:26 AM
Each one-percent increment of grade matters far more for a fully loaded truck, with its low power-to-weight ratio, than it does for a car.  I suspect both 6% and 7% are signed to give trucks advance warning that they may need to downshift midway down the grade instead of choosing a gear at the top and riding in it all the way down.

At this hill, trucks are subject to a 35 limit and also required to use the brake check area off to the right in Max's photo.  At similar downgrades in other states, a hill descent map sign is often provided at the brake check area (or other convenient pullout) that shows the locations of runaway truck ramps and any curves that could pose danger if a truck gets going much faster than the truck limit.

The general rule of thumb is that both cars and trucks will take grades (up or down) of up to 3% in their stride.  Caltrans provides downgrade signing for long steady downgrades as low as 5% (I-80 going west out of the Sierras).  Caltrans is one of the few state DOTs that also provides A/C shutoff signing for long uphill grades, also as low as 5% (I-5 going north up the Grapevine), even though it is now pretty hard to force a modern car to overheat on a hill climb.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on April 09, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
it's also incorrectly designed. note that the designer made the common mistake of misinterpreting the "lowercase characters have an x-height that is 75% of an uppercase letter" as "lowercase characters should be using a font size 25% smaller than the uppercase letters".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 09, 2018, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 09, 2018, 11:56:26 AM
Each one-percent increment of grade matters far more for a fully loaded truck, with its low power-to-weight ratio, than it does for a car.  I suspect both 6% and 7% are signed to give trucks advance warning that they may need to downshift midway down the grade instead of choosing a gear at the top and riding in it all the way down.

At this hill, trucks are subject to a 35 limit and also required to use the brake check area off to the right in Max's photo.  At similar downgrades in other states, a hill descent map sign is often provided at the brake check area (or other convenient pullout) that shows the locations of runaway truck ramps and any curves that could pose danger if a truck gets going much faster than the truck limit.

The general rule of thumb is that both cars and trucks will take grades (up or down) of up to 3% in their stride.  Caltrans provides downgrade signing for long steady downgrades as low as 5% (I-80 going west out of the Sierras).  Caltrans is one of the few state DOTs that also provides A/C shutoff signing for long uphill grades, also as low as 5% (I-5 going north up the Grapevine), even though it is now pretty hard to force a modern car to overheat on a hill climb.

Oddly there is even a sign for 4% grade downhill which is the most shallow I can recall seeing signed in California, unfortunately I didn't capture it.  The strange thing to me is, why over sign CA 166 out of all routes?  This is what is signed at the top of Polonio Pass on CA 46 westbound which is an infinitely more traveled road:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/874/41245586381_faa68de58d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25QJpRF)IMG_4297 (https://flic.kr/p/25QJpRF) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

In regards to the brake check area and 35 MPH zone, none of the truckers were paying attention to either of them.  I was in that brake check area for a solid 15 minutes eating a lunch and no other vehicles bothered to stopped.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on April 10, 2018, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6686187,-82.1386719,3a,15y,132.32h,89.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc2kepJ4ImPA0cAj4jX7fTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I don't know why but I love this.

I've seen this posted here before, but I can't remember when or where. I think we came to the conclusion that it wasn't enforceable. Or at least I did, since the colors are incorrect for a speed limit sign, and the design is incorrect for an advisory limit sign.

Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
Post Edit: Here's another one that I found at the very, very end of the Dalton Highway in Northern Alaska https://www.google.com/maps/@70.2066984,-148.4396998,3a,15y,58.77h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYoTK7kqAdoMyeJ-Wois-Tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That's taking the optional flourescent-yellow/green color to a new level (a non-permitted level, that is).

Here's another example of a yellow speed limit sign on the Indiana Toll Road, though these have the capability to display variable speeds. Several of these gantries went up in the last few months along the lake effect snow corridor, presumably to display lower speed limits and other storm related information. I've spotted weather messages at times (not pictured) but I've not seen the signs display any speeds. I may have missed that event, since I avoid the ITR during the worst weather.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fvpb9dy.jpg&hash=8e7d74902bb380b6bd7a50d9b9d0a82ea915232e)

I figured that the signs are yellow since any speed below the statutory 70 would be advisory only. Perhaps someone more familiar with the law can advise me of the applicable Indiana law.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 10, 2018, 03:56:12 AM
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on April 08, 2018, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 08, 2018, 04:31:59 PM
That APL sign appears to be in Alabama by Birmingham. Can't blame GDOT for that one.

I think he meant it was just similar to a lot of mistakes that GDOT has made on its signs, and that he was surprised Georgia had not made that particular mistake, but not that those actual signs in the picture were in Georgia.

I think he was referring to my post above his, which originally said "GDOT" in all instances where "ALDOT" is currently used.

Quote from: Tom958 on April 08, 2018, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot
The height is absurd, given that the 20/59 shields could be placed next to each other (as pointed out above by roadfro), but I think it's important to give ALDOT some credit here. The left exit could have been part of the sign, as the plan specs indicated. But ALDOT went a step further and made it into it's own sign, and I think that's actually a brilliant move. I wish that was standard practice.

But it is standard practice. They just need to do it correctly.

As far as I know, standard practice in this rare instance is to use one giant sign panel, with a vertical divider between the up arrow and the left arrow (from the bottom to the top of the sign), not for the left exit message to be on an entirely different sign panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on April 10, 2018, 07:53:00 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 10, 2018, 03:56:12 AMAs far as I know, standard practice in this rare instance is to use one giant sign panel, with a vertical divider between the up arrow and the left arrow (from the bottom to the top of the sign), not for the left exit message to be on an entirely different sign panel.

Yes, you're right. I think it's fairer to say that either way is a standard practice, not the standard practice. That leads us to the more fundamental problem of lack of specific direction in the MUTCD and, apparently, lack of sufficient effort to catalog the approaches taken to various not-uncommon situations in the interest of promoting uniformity. This was a problem long before APL's were introduced. :rolleyes:

I'll defer to you in offering that the separate-sign method seems to be more common when the exit in question is a service offramp, while the single-sign method is used for system ramps. That's presumably why the scheme on the plan sheet used a single sign. Hmm...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 11, 2018, 02:55:54 AM
Keep in mind that APLs are still fairly new and we're still running into situations that nobody has tried to use an APL for. I know of one APL in my entire state. Once NCUTCD identifies inconsistencies in usage like this, they're likely to offer more specific guidance in later MUTCDs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 11, 2018, 12:46:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 02:33:25 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 08, 2018, 12:34:10 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 08, 2018, 12:28:15 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:10 AM
Post Edit: Here's another one that I found at the very, very end of the Dalton Highway in Northern Alaska https://www.google.com/maps/@70.2066984,-148.4396998,3a,15y,58.77h,88.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYoTK7kqAdoMyeJ-Wois-Tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That's taking the optional flourescent-yellow/green color to a new level (a non-permitted level, that is).

I imagine it's that color for the purpose of standing out against snow.

Could be. I've proposed highway shields for Washington State with a similar color scheme for just that purpose:

Warning: Shameless Self Promotion ahead...

Quote from: jakeroot on January 06, 2015, 02:23:06 AM
Made some additional modifications. Tightened up the top-side radii to make the cardinal direction and arrows look less ridiculous...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNDxJPLX.png&hash=91f8e8863ec725c2c13faeb6bfcbfbf6810e33c1)

The geometry's good but the puke green background color scheme needs work...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 11, 2018, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 11, 2018, 12:46:33 PM
The geometry's good but the puke green background color scheme needs work...

It was originally orange, but someone suggested I use the new flourescent yellow green MUTCD color, which is what that is. It looks dark due to the black numbers and background, I think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 11, 2018, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 11, 2018, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 11, 2018, 12:46:33 PM
The geometry's good but the puke green background color scheme needs work...

It was originally orange, but someone suggested I use the new flourescent yellow green MUTCD color, which is what that is. It looks dark due to the black numbers and background, I think.

Maybe just the dark green with a white background and a slightly thicker green border for the sign?  Maybe with the cardinal direction and arrow signs in the dark green with white lettering or arrow?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 11, 2018, 04:55:19 PM
That fluorescent color probably doesn't come out well on a computer monitor. It would probably look quite a bit better in person.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 12, 2018, 12:17:24 AM
I saw these two signs in Jacksonville earlier today.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/895/41400643241_530f4925cf_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/265r7RP)Strange Arrows (https://flic.kr/p/265r7RP) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/880/41400644091_0c30689822_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/265r87t)Overhead Powerline (https://flic.kr/p/265r87t) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 12, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Question for Canadians; Is there a French version of this sign?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Canada.no_stopping_(fire_lane).svg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 12, 2018, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 12, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Question for Canadians; Is there a French version of this sign?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Canada.no_stopping_(fire_lane).svg

I don't think I've ever seen that sign posted before. Is it an actual road sign? I would guess that the most common variation of it has a blacked out stop sign (as is typical for 'no stopping' signs in Canada); that would probably be the variation used in Eastern Canada.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 12, 2018, 05:04:31 PM
Weird oversized CA 99 and CA 41 shields with strange font on old US 99 on Broadway Street in downtown Fresno.  These are a common sight in downtown Fresno and I believe are sourced by the city:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/801/40701228704_1f56b37286_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/251Crhu)99CAa (https://flic.kr/p/251Crhu) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 12, 2018, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 12, 2018, 05:04:31 PM
Weird oversized CA 99 and CA 41 shields with strange font on old US 99 on Broadway Street in downtown Fresno.  These are a common sight in downtown Fresno and I believe are sourced by the city:

"Let's use a wide shield, even though it's only two digits, and to make it perfect, let's use Series C for the digits!" (At least for the 99 shield, can't tell with the other because of the tree.)

I love that logic. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 12, 2018, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 12, 2018, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 12, 2018, 05:04:31 PM
Weird oversized CA 99 and CA 41 shields with strange font on old US 99 on Broadway Street in downtown Fresno.  These are a common sight in downtown Fresno and I believe are sourced by the city:

"Let's use a wide shield, even though it's only two digits, and to make it perfect, let's use Series C for the digits!" (At least for the 99 shield, can't tell with the other because of the tree.)

I love that logic. :rolleyes:

The 41 shields are all the same as the 99s:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4342/37008056681_4491730786_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YogXUM)41CAb (https://flic.kr/p/YogXUM) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Looking at that older photo I'm kind of intrigued to find out what surfacing was used for those shields.  It kind of looks like substandard highway vinyl that's badly cracking from a distance.  I would venture a guess that those shields come from an era when reflective paint was still being used on the Caltrans green highway spades.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 18, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
"Right turn yield". I like stuff like this.

Richmond, BC: https://goo.gl/j2o752

(https://i.imgur.com/ZRUBNy7.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 18, 2018, 06:56:34 PM
So does a left turn not have to yield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 18, 2018, 07:07:44 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 18, 2018, 06:56:34 PM
So does a left turn not have to yield?

I think it's trying to indicate that it's right-turn-only, and that you have to yield. I don't think this sign does it that well (does it unambiguously), though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 18, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 18, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
"Right turn yield". I like stuff like this.

Richmond, BC: https://goo.gl/j2o752

(https://i.imgur.com/ZRUBNy7.png)
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 18, 2018, 07:07:44 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 18, 2018, 06:56:34 PM
So does a left turn not have to yield?

I think it's trying to indicate that it's right-turn-only, and that you have to yield. I don't think this sign does it that well (does it unambiguously), though.

As you can see from the Google Maps link, the intersection is a "Y", with this section of roadway being the rightmost ascender of the "Y". It's pretty obvious in person that the movement is right-only. Having an additional right only sign, or a no left turn sign, would just be redundant, since it acts more like a right turn slip lane, and those are never signed with no left turn, or right turn only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ThatRandomOshawott on April 19, 2018, 10:09:01 PM
This old dog on TN 119 northbound just before it goes into Kentucky and becomes KY 121:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4973984,-88.1042861,3a,90y,353.63h,73.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW2WaRz7hXiEXNOQkXwmDhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 19, 2018, 11:28:38 PM
Well, what do you know. (I took this on April 20th.)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/895/41660025351_4b7f05e13c_k.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/26tmw8a)Parking Fees (https://flic.kr/p/26tmw8a) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 23, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Cross post from the Daily Picture Challenge.

And this is what you call a quick improvisation. (I took this on April 11th, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, this was taken in a construction zone. At least it works.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 23, 2018, 09:29:24 PM
Snow = bad times on Hume Lake Road:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/938/27767021388_4b8896ab2c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JiFf55)IMG_4987 (https://flic.kr/p/JiFf55) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 26, 2018, 12:54:42 AM
Putting some more stuff here.

I took this a few months ago, but I thought I could put it here.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4661/39113215054_f873c3e652_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/22Ais9N)Pulaski CR-89 &amp; AR-89 (https://flic.kr/p/22Ais9N) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

#1. Seeing a numbered county road in Pulaski County (where this was taken at) is rare.
#2. Two different route types with the same number
#3. The "FOLLOW" tag (or whatever it's called) above the CR-89 shield.

And then I took this earlier today...

(https://vgy.me/jwqArg.png)

You do have to look over that group of signs a few times to figure out something's unusual...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 26, 2018, 01:10:54 AM
You're going west but the exit numbers are increasing?

Also, the Type D arrow in the Exit Only panel when it should be a Type A.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 26, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
I'm guessing the "W" being after Mabelvale instead of before it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 26, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: plain on April 26, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
I'm guessing the "W" being after Mabelvale instead of before it

Well that's dumb. How are we supposed to know the road isn't named after a town "Mabelvale West"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on April 26, 2018, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2018, 01:10:54 AM
You're going west but the exit numbers are increasing?

Yup. There's been a lot of work being done to simplify the exits in that area (I'm pretty sure).

So basically, going west, it's 131, 130, 128, 129, 126.

Quote from: plain on April 26, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
I'm guessing the "W" being after Mabelvale instead of before it

Mabelvale West Road is the official name of the road. There is a neighborhood in Little Rock called Mabelvale, but there isn't a Mabelvale East road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 27, 2018, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 26, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: plain on April 26, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
I'm guessing the "W" being after Mabelvale instead of before it

Well that's dumb. How are we supposed to know the road isn't named after a town "Mabelvale West"?

Well it was worth a shot lmao
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 27, 2018, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: plain on April 27, 2018, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 26, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
Quote from: plain on April 26, 2018, 01:42:54 PM
I'm guessing the "W" being after Mabelvale instead of before it

Well that's dumb. How are we supposed to know the road isn't named after a town "Mabelvale West"?

Well it was worth a shot lmao

Oh, totally. I'm glad TBKS1 said that it wasn't that. It really bothers me when some users assume that all other users are intimately familiar with their areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on April 28, 2018, 11:40:37 PM
The signs at "The Shops at Northfield Stapleton" in Denver, CO use serif fonts. Here's a yield sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/Dd3HvzXl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 30, 2018, 04:24:06 AM
Not even an interesting one, either–some variant of Times, probably Times New Roman.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 23, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Cross post from the Daily Picture Challenge.

And this is what you call a quick improvisation. (I took this on April 11th, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, this was taken in a construction zone. At least it works.  :bigass:

Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on April 30, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
Something seems slightly off with the CT Route 372 shield here. It's at the New Britain/Berlin, CT town line, as Corbin Avenue of New Britain ends and splits off to the right to start Farmington Avenue of Berlin.

(https://i.imgur.com/c4Vdrqn.jpg)

These signs recently replaced a VERY ancient big green sign pointing to staying left to head towards CT Route 9 South. The sign was so old that you could see the sun fade for what was "TO CT 72 EAST".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 30, 2018, 09:49:41 AM
That's typical for a MA 3dsr not containing a 1. It's just in the wrong state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 12:39:36 PM
What's the issue with the 372 sign? Is it the border not extending to the edge? Or the narrow glyphs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 30, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 12:39:36 PM
What's the issue with the 372 sign? Is it the border not extending to the edge? Or the narrow glyphs?

Both of those things, I think. Not really sure those two things are enough to make that assembly qualify for this thread, though.

On a related note, the undersized and off-center arrows really bother me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 30, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
On a related note, the undersized and off-center arrows really bother me.

Yeah, I'm not too keen on that either. Given the use of two poles versus one, it looks like an arrow against a sign panel at least the same width of the directional banner would have been required to mount centrally. The entire assembly, minus the arrows, appears to be oversized. They might not have had an arrow wide enough to go along with the setup.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 30, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 30, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
On a related note, the undersized and off-center arrows really bother me.

Yeah, I'm not too keen on that either. Given the use of two poles versus one, it looks like an arrow against a sign panel at least the same width of the directional banner would have been required to mount centrally. The entire assembly, minus the arrows, appears to be oversized. They might not have had an arrow wide enough to go along with the setup.

That type of route signage seems common in Massachusetts, though usually on expressway or interstate-grade routes. Most reassurance signage get a single post and have the same sort of banner-shield-arrow setup on surface streets, and their famous paddles at many intersections.

Not a fan of those imbalanced setups; if you're going to use dual signposts, just craft some directional banners and arrows that match the width. Those cobbled-together deals are fine for temporary purposes in construction zones, but ridiculous for a commonwealth with over 300 years of signage practice!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 30, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
That type of route signage seems common in Massachusetts, though usually on expressway or interstate-grade routes. Most reassurance signage get a single post and have the same sort of banner-shield-arrow setup on surface streets, and their famous paddles at many intersections.

Not a fan of those imbalanced setups; if you're going to use dual signposts, just craft some directional banners and arrows that match the width. Those cobbled-together deals are fine for temporary purposes in construction zones, but ridiculous for a commonwealth with over 300 years of signage practice!

I agree. This assembly appears sort of half-assed. I come from a state where "sign salads" ([directional banner][shield][arrow]) don't really exist (guide signs used instead), so this comes across as very lazy.

Not very happy to hear that Mass sometimes uses sign salads on freeways. That's really harebrained.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 01, 2018, 01:10:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 30, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
That type of route signage seems common in Massachusetts, though usually on expressway or interstate-grade routes. Most reassurance signage get a single post and have the same sort of banner-shield-arrow setup on surface streets, and their famous paddles at many intersections.

Not a fan of those imbalanced setups; if you're going to use dual signposts, just craft some directional banners and arrows that match the width. Those cobbled-together deals are fine for temporary purposes in construction zones, but ridiculous for a commonwealth with over 300 years of signage practice!

I agree. This assembly appears sort of half-assed. I come from a state where "sign salads" ([directional banner][shield][arrow]) don't really exist (guide signs used instead), so this comes across as very lazy.

Not very happy to hear that Mass sometimes uses sign salads on freeways. That's really harebrained.
Like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6294526,-86.8982891,3a,15y,322.88h,87.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKDtx5oPm-VZ9RYrKIQnerg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2018, 01:17:45 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 01, 2018, 01:10:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 30, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
That type of route signage seems common in Massachusetts, though usually on expressway or interstate-grade routes. Most reassurance signage get a single post and have the same sort of banner-shield-arrow setup on surface streets, and their famous paddles at many intersections.

Not a fan of those imbalanced setups; if you're going to use dual signposts, just craft some directional banners and arrows that match the width. Those cobbled-together deals are fine for temporary purposes in construction zones, but ridiculous for a commonwealth with over 300 years of signage practice!

I agree. This assembly appears sort of half-assed. I come from a state where "sign salads" ([directional banner][shield][arrow]) don't really exist (guide signs used instead), so this comes across as very lazy.

Not very happy to hear that Mass sometimes uses sign salads on freeways. That's really harebrained.

Like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6294526,-86.8982891,3a,15y,322.88h,87.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKDtx5oPm-VZ9RYrKIQnerg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Yeah. Yuck. If they're in addition to guide signs, no problem. But as the sole indication of a split? Not a fan.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 01, 2018, 03:42:14 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2018, 01:17:45 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 01, 2018, 01:10:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 30, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 30, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
That type of route signage seems common in Massachusetts, though usually on expressway or interstate-grade routes. Most reassurance signage get a single post and have the same sort of banner-shield-arrow setup on surface streets, and their famous paddles at many intersections.

Not a fan of those imbalanced setups; if you're going to use dual signposts, just craft some directional banners and arrows that match the width. Those cobbled-together deals are fine for temporary purposes in construction zones, but ridiculous for a commonwealth with over 300 years of signage practice!

I agree. This assembly appears sort of half-assed. I come from a state where "sign salads" ([directional banner][shield][arrow]) don't really exist (guide signs used instead), so this comes across as very lazy.

Not very happy to hear that Mass sometimes uses sign salads on freeways. That's really harebrained.

Like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6294526,-86.8982891,3a,15y,322.88h,87.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKDtx5oPm-VZ9RYrKIQnerg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Yeah. Yuck. If they're in addition to guide signs, no problem. But as the sole indication of a split? Not a fan.
ALDOT seems to be a mixed bag. They're used at some ramp splits, but not others (though it appears to be reserved mostly for ramp-splits on interstate to interstate ramps). Overhead BGSs are usually used in all instances though:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.629281,-86.8972926,3a,34.7y,289.47h,94.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su5xBU3lGxkupFmz-SNUbgA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7195163,-86.6248594,3a,31.1y,55.22h,90.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy07Z7s699hKc1ecZhzd3ZA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7332131,-86.596017,3a,35y,50.02h,93.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1DS5lOYa4QX7ePric5Uexw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7336168,-86.5982057,3a,31.3y,233.33h,92.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6c0vUJz1vdmmXnPJqb9q5Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.39684,-86.786346,3a,29.9y,183.82h,94.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scrWiAMRzfhBlbhrq-T4gTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.1728015,-87.5550144,3a,48.5y,178.15h,94.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shMNSUtTPl8m09ePccVAQGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.006297,-86.0745776,3a,35.4y,320.11h,95.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPT34uTVTo9z8jkhJGS2X8w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 01, 2018, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 23, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Cross post from the Daily Picture Challenge.

And this is what you call a quick improvisation. (I took this on April 11th, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, this was taken in a construction zone. At least it works.  :bigass:

Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

I swear, everyone tells me it looks like a Frankensign.

Anyways, I went to Fordyce today and saw this in Cleveland County. I guess this is the standard county route?

(https://vgy.me/mwz2at.jpg)

I also saw these everywhere too...

(https://vgy.me/2aaVVf.png)

Here's an extra photo. Is this a 1 or a 7?

(https://vgy.me/GXFcqT.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 02, 2018, 01:02:28 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

Speaking of Frankensign, does anyone here have a link or a screenshot of the original Frankensign in Virginia? I believe the original photo was on Photobucket. :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on May 03, 2018, 11:45:45 PM
I find it interesting that Broomfield, CO signs US 36 with "Denver" and "Boulder" banners instead of "East" and "West" on city streets (it's signed east/west on the highway itself). Here's two examples (as a bonus, these ones have white borders on the US 36 signs):

(https://i.imgur.com/rzp6Hycl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K11zIFMl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 04, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
^^^

That's similar to this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Iowa_Day_6%2FImages%2F102.jpg&hash=08852597f2bc63917c7fbac51d48945d772ae272)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on May 04, 2018, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 04, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
^^^

That's similar to this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Iowa_Day_6%2FImages%2F102.jpg&hash=08852597f2bc63917c7fbac51d48945d772ae272)

On page 136 of the thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on May 04, 2018, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on May 04, 2018, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 04, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
^^^

That's similar to this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Iowa_Day_6%2FImages%2F102.jpg&hash=08852597f2bc63917c7fbac51d48945d772ae272)

On page 136 of the thread.

Also with a reminder to celebrate cinco de mayo tomorrow.  :sombrero:  :sombrero:  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on May 04, 2018, 06:16:33 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on May 04, 2018, 06:12:57 PM
Also with a reminder to celebrate cinco de mayo tomorrow.  :sombrero:  :sombrero:  :sombrero:

Two years ago, the restaurant UNO was advertising "Dos de Mayo", which was supposed to be Cinco de Mayo with Dos Equis beer. Somehow, they didn't realize that "dos de mayo" is three days earlier, May 2.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 04, 2018, 11:07:20 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on May 03, 2018, 11:45:45 PM
I find it interesting that Broomfield, CO signs US 36 with "Denver" and "Boulder" banners instead of "East" and "West" on city streets (it's signed east/west on the highway itself). Here's two examples (as a bonus, these ones have white borders on the US 36 signs):

https://i.imgur.com/rzp6Hycl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K11zIFMl.jpg

Reminds me of the way Australia and others sign highways. No cardinal directions, just "highway xx towards xx".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 05, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
This is the first time I have ever seen a Minnesota route marker use something beyond Series D (I think it's Series E?) on a route marker.

(https://i.imgur.com/bx48SGl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UfO5XmU.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 05, 2018, 10:12:51 PM
^^ E(M) for its boldness?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 05, 2018, 10:53:37 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 05, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
This is the first time I have ever seen a Minnesota route marker use something beyond Series D (I think it's Series E?) on a route marker.

(https://i.imgur.com/bx48SGl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UfO5XmU.jpg)

I'm 90% sure that E-M.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2018, 09:48:26 AM
I like this diagramical sign.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/827/41928267511_4d2004d441_c.jpg)
Love the way it includes the at grade intersection with Griffin Road before the actual split.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 08, 2018, 02:34:03 PM
Saw this funky wide font in Tennessee over the weekend. First time I've seen it in the Volunteer State.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/976/40172280300_f90bcebde6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24cTrmq)2018 Tennessee US 11 clinching trip Day 1 - 089 (https://flic.kr/p/24cTrmq) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Not quite Craig County-bad, but the smaller "r" in Kingsport and the alignment are both odd.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/963/41260916374_ff57e85f3d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25S5YVU)2018 Tennessee US 11 clinching trip Day 2 - 002 (https://flic.kr/p/25S5YVU) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Something looks off about this one.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/953/27110506837_bb70076b29_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HiEraF)2018 Tennessee US 11 clinching trip Day 2 - 007 (https://flic.kr/p/HiEraF) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 08, 2018, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 02, 2018, 01:02:28 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

Speaking of Frankensign, does anyone here have a link or a screenshot of the original Frankensign in Virginia? I believe the original photo was on Photobucket. :pan:

Thankfully I also posted it to Facebook at the time, though it sure took a while for me to find.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dc3xzInNestKkl4jX_r_TLsfjW4c6al2aF_LKyPXtkjSGvoO1QpJ8ZJFgeEBms7a6nL15LDB_aAvceh7WILQQS4rt9Z6K4g4M76BrbKu_zOJOCpecCxoWNfrL9bc8YYgd-Cs1ho-xaJwa4v8CCbb5I59qbUFH_E3EtjJhF7FlWWm4WkojRrRSk4vbxFicXNO57yA8WvnpNHUzUr6K6ihk6Ggf7web40XvzCfdVIaDSCqrBmgRnDwo5y0F9vfVmlJpv8SS739DvVEuAZ83fQmc6Wuyvp_0PDA0AS_ZMReqm0LWkcdzVLkaIexs9oFSDdFb46sVipPIHvQKgoJTuDKXu7Yr3EVjQ11yiH2inxQHHpBu9z6dyp4aK3ysgKATtsJ3bc8Zv01QT67vs6jD8w6-ofrT1YfuYoKQSgbo0df_IkJVtOWKuCkK_pSIMAJCpLDfEcMo7MEDqQbyOzVAVKPgg0unuRYAXQhsM31xpl0LQyfLzkRqIMefS48VcXkS0Sy1I01IR1hIieDyyAAOPStrElreRM3-Du_8Oz7MNE9W1CkxV6Jg_2EYcr9yRDh9k1ueLa_2UEiI7cbF1vPjvRJkZ1yHN_OPP9A61Nn5jA=w720-h540-no)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 08, 2018, 03:36:49 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 04, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
^^^

That's similar to this.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2F2010_Iowa_Day_6%2FImages%2F102.jpg&hash=08852597f2bc63917c7fbac51d48945d772ae272)
Damn! I wonder if they should start adding signs like that in Bristol, Virginia and Tennessee. Maybe I should start looking for these on the east coast too. Someplace like the South of the Border area might find this useful.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 08, 2018, 03:57:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 08, 2018, 02:34:03 PM
Not quite Craig County-bad, but the smaller "r" in Kingsport and the alignment are both odd.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/963/41260916374_ff57e85f3d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25S5YVU)2018 Tennessee US 11 clinching trip Day 2 - 002 (https://flic.kr/p/25S5YVU) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

It looks like the i in Kingsport is also too small, and it almost looks like the c in Wilcox Drive is a capital C instead of a lowercase one.

EDIT: I'm wrong about the C, but that's a huge lowercase i (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.482441,-82.5444434,3a,15.2y,345.47h,98.73t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1spxEDA3mZh4kI2z1i1VputA!2e0) in Wilcox Drive...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on May 08, 2018, 05:04:37 PM
Was looking around Corinth, MS, and came across this:
(https://i.imgur.com/XhJloFD.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/KkvTjsh.png)

https://goo.gl/maps/qP99hKAhLp42
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 08, 2018, 06:11:06 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on May 08, 2018, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 02, 2018, 01:02:28 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

Speaking of Frankensign, does anyone here have a link or a screenshot of the original Frankensign in Virginia? I believe the original photo was on Photobucket. :pan:

Thankfully I also posted it to Facebook at the time, though it sure took a while for me to find.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dc3xzInNestKkl4jX_r_TLsfjW4c6al2aF_LKyPXtkjSGvoO1QpJ8ZJFgeEBms7a6nL15LDB_aAvceh7WILQQS4rt9Z6K4g4M76BrbKu_zOJOCpecCxoWNfrL9bc8YYgd-Cs1ho-xaJwa4v8CCbb5I59qbUFH_E3EtjJhF7FlWWm4WkojRrRSk4vbxFicXNO57yA8WvnpNHUzUr6K6ihk6Ggf7web40XvzCfdVIaDSCqrBmgRnDwo5y0F9vfVmlJpv8SS739DvVEuAZ83fQmc6Wuyvp_0PDA0AS_ZMReqm0LWkcdzVLkaIexs9oFSDdFb46sVipPIHvQKgoJTuDKXu7Yr3EVjQ11yiH2inxQHHpBu9z6dyp4aK3ysgKATtsJ3bc8Zv01QT67vs6jD8w6-ofrT1YfuYoKQSgbo0df_IkJVtOWKuCkK_pSIMAJCpLDfEcMo7MEDqQbyOzVAVKPgg0unuRYAXQhsM31xpl0LQyfLzkRqIMefS48VcXkS0Sy1I01IR1hIieDyyAAOPStrElreRM3-Du_8Oz7MNE9W1CkxV6Jg_2EYcr9yRDh9k1ueLa_2UEiI7cbF1vPjvRJkZ1yHN_OPP9A61Nn5jA=w720-h540-no)

FWIW, it isn't showing up for me, just a gray "do not enter" symbol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 08, 2018, 07:03:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 08, 2018, 06:11:06 PM
FWIW, it isn't showing up for me, just a gray "do not enter" symbol.

Works for me, but in case it doesn't for others, here's an Imgur rehost:

(https://i.imgur.com/88LfrU7.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 08, 2018, 07:28:08 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 23, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Cross post from the Daily Picture Challenge.

And this is what you call a quick improvisation. (I took this on April 11th, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, this was taken in a construction zone. At least it works.  :bigass:

Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 08, 2018, 07:03:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 08, 2018, 06:11:06 PM
FWIW, it isn't showing up for me, just a gray "do not enter" symbol.

Works for me, but in case it doesn't for others, here's an Imgur rehost:

(https://i.imgur.com/88LfrU7.jpg)

I see why everyone was calling it a frankensign now. These two actually look pretty similar...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 08, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
Was on Flickr and found this oddity.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/busman_49/26262729507/in/pool-3034019@N21/

Then these from GSV shows cool signs for both I-81 and I-78 leaving Hersheypark in Hershey, PA.
https://goo.gl/maps/UzJJN7aqTZQ2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 08, 2018, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 08, 2018, 10:16:38 PM
Then these from GSV shows cool signs for both I-81 and I-78 leaving Hersheypark in Hershey, PA.
https://goo.gl/maps/UzJJN7aqTZQ2

Those ugly US Route shields though...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 09, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
Several of these monstrosities can be found in Knoxville. Looks like they were imported from Pennsylvania.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/946/41079561425_91881ed4b5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25A4uqr)2018 Tennessee US 11 clinching trip Day 1 - 220 (https://flic.kr/p/25A4uqr) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 09, 2018, 11:13:39 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 09, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
Several of these monstrosities can be found in Knoxville. Looks like they were imported from Pennsylvania.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/946/41079561425_91881ed4b5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25A4uqr)2018 Tennessee US 11 clinching trip Day 1 - 220 (https://flic.kr/p/25A4uqr) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Ouch, those US route shields look pretty pointy and dangerous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: doorknob60 on May 09, 2018, 05:05:50 PM
Here's an odd one in Boise:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1TQyZWK.png&hash=9c52b80d83e87f311a705923fb33242950151143)

And from the other side:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuLecmtF.png&hash=3cf81c36e91f43176f2dd2d3607d420eb4a700eb)

They aren't wrong, but they're almost too correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2018, 05:27:28 PM
Funny you should post about those, as I just found some slightly less unusual ones on Friday. These are all on Iowa 146 in Gilman (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8785928,-92.7873826,16.08z).

1st curve NB
(https://i.imgur.com/eCtMYiT.jpg)

1st curve SB
(https://i.imgur.com/9FBo5CO.jpg)

2nd curve NB
(https://i.imgur.com/Cudy9x3.jpg)

2nd curve SB
(https://i.imgur.com/lKEOBWZ.jpg)

I'm not really sure these (or at least the first pair) are an appropriate use of modified curve signs, but they're interesting nonetheless.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on May 09, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
The MUTCD states that curves warranting speeds of 30mph or less are to use the sharp turn sign rather than the curve sign, but I don't see anything in the MUTCD for turn signs with added intersection elements.  Though I have seen them in the wild, signs for sharp turns with added intersection elements don't seem to appear in the manual itself, oddly.  So the agency probably stuck with the sign designs specifically designated as the W1-10 series as shown in the MUTCD, to ensure compliance.

https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_01_longdesc.htm

As for the second pair, I have no idea what the heck is going on there.  But I like that they threw something together that looks decent and clearly depicts the situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2018, 07:59:38 PM
I didn't know that the signs in my first example are actually in the MUTCD (W1-10b and c). Interesting.

Since we're on the subject, the city of Des Moines once posted a W1-4 sign with an advisory speed in one of the blank spaces. It was posted right here (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5827583,-93.6414975,3a,42.5y,276.69h,90.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssyKDgHC9O9qF4Rr2tivBtg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664), and I wanted to get a picture of it since that's a non-standard sign, but by the time I remembered to get out there for a pic it had already been replaced with a standard W1-4 sign. :-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 09, 2018, 08:30:39 PM
I actually have something similar to that.

This is in Jacksonville, Arkansas.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4783/25979747097_c458a04854_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/FzJZG6)I don&#x27;t know what this is (https://flic.kr/p/FzJZG6) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 09, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
I think using the extra markings makes sense. The signs are warning you of a road feature ahead. If that includes a side street, it should be on the sign.

I like that thinner strokes are used for the side streets (common for this type of sign). Very reminiscint of UK junction layout signs, which use strokes of varying widths to indicate importance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2018, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 09, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
I think using the extra markings makes sense. The signs are warning you of a road feature ahead. If that includes a side street, it should be on the sign.

I like that thinner strokes are used for the side streets (common for this type of sign). Very reminiscint of UK junction layout signs, which use strokes of varying widths to indicate importance.

I agree. It's just that there isn't any provision for these signs in the MUTCD, except for a handful of specific designs. I think it would be nice to see those prescribed signs (the W1-10 series) replaced with some generalized language that specifies ways to create unique warning signs—like my second example pair, or TBKS1's example—to fit unique situations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 09, 2018, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2018, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 09, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
I think using the extra markings makes sense. The signs are warning you of a road feature ahead. If that includes a side street, it should be on the sign.

I like that thinner strokes are used for the side streets (common for this type of sign). Very reminiscint of UK junction layout signs, which use strokes of varying widths to indicate importance.

I agree. It's just that there isn't any provision for these signs in the MUTCD, except for a handful of specific designs. I think it would be nice to see those prescribed signs (the W1-10 series) replaced with some generalized language that specifies ways to create unique warning signs–like my second example pair, or TBKS1's example–to fit unique situations.

Even if there aren't any special provisions per se, custom warning signs should be allowed, and generally have been. Custom regulatory signage is cumbersome because of laws and whatnot. But warning signs are (or should be) different.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2018, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 09, 2018, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 09, 2018, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 09, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
I think using the extra markings makes sense. The signs are warning you of a road feature ahead. If that includes a side street, it should be on the sign.

I like that thinner strokes are used for the side streets (common for this type of sign). Very reminiscint of UK junction layout signs, which use strokes of varying widths to indicate importance.
I agree. It's just that there isn't any provision for these signs in the MUTCD, except for a handful of specific designs. I think it would be nice to see those prescribed signs (the W1-10 series) replaced with some generalized language that specifies ways to create unique warning signs–like my second example pair, or TBKS1's example–to fit unique situations.
Even if there aren't any special provisions per se, custom warning signs should be allowed, and generally have been. Custom regulatory signage is cumbersome because of laws and whatnot. But warning signs are (or should be) different.

I thought it was a general rule across all sign types that the MUTCD allows custom messages, but only in text form.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2018, 11:36:22 PM
I'm finding most shields/signs in Washington to be a huge departure from the norm I'm used to seeing in California and Arizona.  I don't know if this was particularly unique but I found this sign for the city of Bremerton on WA 303 to be somewhat curious.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/972/28135947708_ddaa502f27_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JSh61G)0 (https://flic.kr/p/JSh61G) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 10, 2018, 01:26:43 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 09, 2018, 11:36:22 PM
I'm finding most shields/signs in Washington to be a huge departure from the norm I'm used to seeing in California and Arizona.

The only real similarity between WA and CA is the early use of mixed case legends on signs, and the lack of exit tabs. Also similar pavement markings for a long time, but WSDOT has been using some more of the optional bits of the MUTCD lately, so that's not as obvious these days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 10, 2018, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on May 09, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
The MUTCD states that curves warranting speeds of 30mph or less are to use the sharp turn sign rather than the curve sign, but I don't see anything in the MUTCD for turn signs with added intersection elements.  Though I have seen them in the wild, signs for sharp turns with added intersection elements don't seem to appear in the manual itself, oddly.  So the agency probably stuck with the sign designs specifically designated as the W1-10 series as shown in the MUTCD, to ensure compliance.

https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_01_longdesc.htm


The guidance statement in section 2C.11 seems to suggest that horizontal alignment/intersection warning signs can be customized to approximate the actual road configurations, subject to a couple restrictions.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 10, 2018, 03:48:22 PM
US 99 at the Columbia Street on ramp for the Alaska Way Viaduct in downtown Seattle:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/975/27153565337_92560518e2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hnt7XB)0 (https://flic.kr/p/Hnt7XB) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on May 10, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 10, 2018, 03:48:22 PM
US 99 at the Columbia Street on ramp for the Alaska Way Viaduct in downtown Seattle:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/975/27153565337_92560518e2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Hnt7XB)0 (https://flic.kr/p/Hnt7XB) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Nice photo. I was there last summer and I didn't take a picture. Ugh!! :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on May 10, 2018, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 23, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Cross post from the Daily Picture Challenge.

And this is what you call a quick improvisation. (I took this on April 11th, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, this was taken in a construction zone. At least it works.  :bigass:

Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

LMAO!!!! I saw this sign in the daily challenge, and said EXACTLY THAT!!!!!

Btw, anyone got a picture of the original VDOT frankinsign? The one up thread was photobucketed....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 10, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on May 10, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Nice photo. I was there last summer and I didn't take a picture. Ugh!! :ded:

Don't worry, there's a million photos (thankfully).

I think it's probably the oldest sign in Washington. Any others that might be older that anyone knows of?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 11, 2018, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on May 10, 2018, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 30, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on April 23, 2018, 09:25:51 PM
Cross post from the Daily Picture Challenge.

And this is what you call a quick improvisation. (I took this on April 11th, 2018)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/892/40505057635_538501c304_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF)AR-5 + AR-321 + AR-367 (https://flic.kr/p/24Hi1sF) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

Yes, this was taken in a construction zone. At least it works.  :bigass:

Oh no, it's the second coming of Frankensign!

LMAO!!!! I saw this sign in the daily challenge, and said EXACTLY THAT!!!!!

Btw, anyone got a picture of the original VDOT frankinsign? The one up thread was photobucketed....
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/63287_797404203676_2902994_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1f2f9c1c78588e75860b6846e46500d8&oe=5B52F58C)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 11, 2018, 04:15:27 PM
I took this earlier today.

I-40 Eastbound.

(https://vgy.me/6aVyVc.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 12, 2018, 03:42:02 AM
Button copy exit tab with direct-applied sign body. Sounds like something ODOT would do. (I've also seen them take the tab off a FHWA Series sign that was crashed into and stick it on top of its Clearview replacement.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 12, 2018, 04:42:51 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 12, 2018, 03:42:02 AM
Button copy exit tab with direct-applied sign body. Sounds like something ODOT would do. (I've also seen them take the tab off a FHWA Series sign that was crashed into and stick it on top of its Clearview replacement.)

Eh, I mean, as long as it's usable/legible, I don't really see a problem with that. I've seen a number of mixed installs in Iowa here, usually with a Clearview tab and the main panel being in FHWA. It's a mixed bag as to whether the main panel is newer, or if the tab was replaced more recently.

(https://i.imgur.com/5JtpBiO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PjzKi6Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on May 12, 2018, 05:59:43 PM
Do Not Enter on octagonal signs

(https://i.imgur.com/Oet1DPW.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 13, 2018, 12:43:48 PM
Saw this on Twitter. I don't know where it is.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180513/6a17dc8c9700239989c75fb932a9972a.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 13, 2018, 07:10:13 PM
Is this Series A?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/907/42046664181_12a5d8a85d_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/274w9nT)CR-87 (Polk County, AR) (https://flic.kr/p/274w9nT) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 13, 2018, 11:06:34 PM
This is on Washington State 542 on the way to a ski area near Mt. Baker.  Seriously, who drives out to the mountains without a map hoping there might be a mountain pass?  The northern most mountain pass in Washington State is Highway 20, which is the only access through North Cascades National Park.  North of that is Canada.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsrimages.wsdot.wa.gov%2FStateRoute%2FPictureLog%2F2017%2FNW%2F542%2FM%2FM%2FI%2F01%2FPR%2F01391PR.JPG&hash=09e0b7bd2c460fa33017bb5736b6d273abe93d29)

I got this from WSDOT's SR Web, a road image service which is simpler than Street View, which means it can animate fast enough to simulate driving.  http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/mapsdata/tools/srweb.htm  It also has details about mile marker locations, which gives clues about highway construction.  The only other similar state service I've found is Oregon's, but there must be more of them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 14, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
I think this temporary street blade in Federal Way, WA qualifies as "bad" and "ugly". The permanent one ain't much better looking with those cut out corners.

(https://i.imgur.com/3PrRron.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on May 15, 2018, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
I think this temporary street blade in Federal Way, WA qualifies as "bad" and "ugly". The permanent one ain't much better looking with those cut out corners.

(https://i.imgur.com/3PrRron.jpg)
Department of Redundancy Department as well? (South South 348th Street)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 15, 2018, 12:45:10 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on May 15, 2018, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2018, 02:38:21 PM
I think this temporary street blade in Federal Way, WA qualifies as "bad" and "ugly". The permanent one ain't much better looking with those cut out corners.

(https://i.imgur.com/3PrRron.jpg)

Department of Redundancy Department as well? (South South 348th Street)

Which reminds me. SS...Mueller...this sign might be a little too German.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 15, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Am I weird for liking the aesthetic of the cut off corners? I like it when cities go beyond using simple plain green/blue/brown rectangles for street name signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 15, 2018, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 15, 2018, 12:45:10 PM
Which reminds me. SS...Mueller...this sign might be a little too German.

Or it might be a little too political, if one pretends the sign is a reference to the Special Counsel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on May 15, 2018, 10:23:10 PM
Last night, I saw this (https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/8jiadv/found_on_a_walk_i_think_it_must_be_prototype/) on Reddit:
(https://i.redditmedia.com/w2CMul5i1URiiuh9P7NKHpu4qipjazmAqgmhc46v5tE.jpg?w=768&s=09aecc16222acbc6458c907e18f520dc)



EDIT: While writing this post, I didn't realize I was a few pages back on the quick reply screen, so here's a post from 9 pages back I thought was neat:

Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2018, 07:53:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/38789450440/in/dateposted-public/
A partial APL so to speak.  I do not know if any are in your area, but in Orlando they are becoming common.

I'd say that's a good compromise between the current APL standards and reducing sign size.  I've thought about having signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0552822,-76.0864457,3a,66.8y,74.78h,94.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5z9wQ9CDbJ_M4Oc3gxJBVA!2e0) for each lane, and the sign above the option lane would list both the through route and the exit.  Another option would be to have exit signs like before APL standards, but add a sign in the middle with both the through route and the exit with a down arrow.  Yet another option (which would probably be too confusing) is to paint numbers on each lane (left to right) and have signs say something like "[through route shield] LANES 1-3" and "[EXIT] LANES 3-4".  Note the overlap of the numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 16, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
"Road to be extended in the future", that is, when the railroad is abandoned.  It was, and it was.  Redmond, Washington.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27270202897_66ec135763_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2)Road to be extended in the future (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 09:48:00 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 16, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
"Road to be extended in the future", that is, when the railroad is abandoned.  It was, and it was.  Redmond, Washington.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27270202897_66ec135763_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2)Road to be extended in the future (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr

Henrico County, Virginia uses similar signs at dead ends where extension of the road is an option, although right now the only one I'm aware of is at the western terminus of Three Chopt Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6527819,-77.6278107,3a,32.7y,304.47h,75.33t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sfLPpwNxRGzSyr490xqVmQA!2e0) just west of Lauderdale Drive (near US 250). Henrico County's website doesn't mention an extension project, though (and with the explosion of development between North Gayton Road and VA 288, such an extension wouldn't really be useful anymore).

Strangely, there isn't one on J.E.B. Stuart Parkway in the northern part of the county, which is slated to become part of an extension of Woodman Road (https://henrico.us/projects/woodman-road-extension/) from Greenwood Road (near I-295) to US 1.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 16, 2018, 01:11:09 PM
Here is one in Stafford County Virginia:  https://goo.gl/maps/19HWtSFbBQK2

I think this has been there back to the opening of the Wawa over 15 years ago...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on May 16, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 16, 2018, 01:11:09 PM
Here is one in Stafford County Virginia:  https://goo.gl/maps/19HWtSFbBQK2

I think this has been there back to the opening of the Wawa over 15 years ago...

I forgot about that one and I was in the area not too long ago. I think it's safe to say that street isn't getting extended any time soon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on May 16, 2018, 02:09:25 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 16, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
"Road to be extended in the future", that is, when the railroad is abandoned.  It was, and it was.  Redmond, Washington.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27270202897_66ec135763_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2)Road to be extended in the future (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr

"The STOP sign is there to denote the intersection with a new road.  So far, we've only had enough money to put in the STOP sign."  From the Danny Thomas Show episode "Danny Meets Andy Griffith."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2018, 09:39:02 PM
I call this the Tan Mom shield...

(https://i.imgur.com/UySnuMt.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 17, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/826/41451047854_c5031d0745_c.jpg)
Very strange looking diagram sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on May 19, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 17, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/826/41451047854_c5031d0745_c.jpg)
Very strange looking diagram sign.

What is strange about it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 19, 2018, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on May 19, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 17, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/826/41451047854_c5031d0745_c.jpg
Very strange looking diagram sign.

What is strange about it?

I agree that's it's not particularly strange looking, but it is an odd use of the sign. They're generally reserved for lane drops + option lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 19, 2018, 09:23:17 PM
Here's the previous sign in that location.  Taken January 1, 2008.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20080101%2Fus441us301split.jpg&hash=e4fc7340c789cdd03c3f4fe54da297e2d4af8543)

Followed just up the road at the split with these.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20080101%2Fus441us301splitnow.jpg&hash=99ceef1e898a4cdfb5f5390bc70da63770a59ad1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 19, 2018, 11:09:05 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 16, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
"Road to be extended in the future", that is, when the railroad is abandoned.  It was, and it was.  Redmond, Washington.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/959/27270202897_66ec135763_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2)Road to be extended in the future (https://flic.kr/p/HxLVf2) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
If we see any signs like this in New York State (especially Downstate New York), it'd be a miracle.


On another note, what does this sign say when the bottom is folded back up in the summer?

https://www.facebook.com/aaroads/photos/a.10150170219977948.315352.181045197947/10156315297557948/?type=3&permPage=1



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 19, 2018, 11:46:54 PM
Both of these Iowa routes were turned back in 2003. I have to seriously question the utility of continuing to point out these facts almost 15 years later.

(https://i.imgur.com/UgTERYm.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/8b2mErN.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 20, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
Salt Lake City, UT:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4641/38580518165_8acfaf3a19_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21MeeVF)

I've never seen anything like this "600 Feet"  before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 20, 2018, 10:03:40 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 19, 2018, 11:09:05 PM

On another note, what does this sign say when the bottom is folded back up in the summer?

https://www.facebook.com/aaroads/photos/a.10150170219977948.315352.181045197947/10156315297557948/?type=3&permPage=1



Nothing.

https://goo.gl/maps/ATGS16VUupA2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 20, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 19, 2018, 11:46:54 PM
Both of these Iowa routes were turned back in 2003. I have to seriously question the utility of continuing to point out these facts almost 15 years later.

Found this in Michigan back in 2012; as it turned out, M-76 was decommissioned back in 1973.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/21553026033_d27460fe22_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yQyTK8)

I suppose the sign was at least a decade old, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 20, 2018, 10:41:51 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 20, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 19, 2018, 11:46:54 PM
Both of these Iowa routes were turned back in 2003. I have to seriously question the utility of continuing to point out these facts almost 15 years later.
Found this in Michigan back in 2012; as it turned out, M-76 was decommissioned back in 1973.

I suppose the sign was at least a decade old, though.

It's impressive that thing has survived that long.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 20, 2018, 11:05:57 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 20, 2018, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 19, 2018, 11:46:54 PM
Both of these Iowa routes were turned back in 2003. I have to seriously question the utility of continuing to point out these facts almost 15 years later.
Found this in Michigan back in 2012; as it turned out, M-76 was decommissioned back in 1973.

I suppose the sign was at least a decade old, though.

I'd guess it's a matter of the county road departments not bothering, or not even having the thought, to remove these signs, and not a deliberate decision to keep them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 20, 2018, 11:34:17 AM
VA 6 and VA 151 swapped routings at their north end near Afton Virginia in 1989.  There is still an OLD VA 6 posting along US 250 at VA 151.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ugmi8SFM7Pq

When VA 275 became VA 262 not far from here the OLD postings were up barely a year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 20, 2018, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: US 89 on May 20, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
Salt Lake City, UT:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4641/38580518165_8acfaf3a19_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21MeeVF)

I've never seen anything like this "600 Feet"  before.
I have seen lead warnings in hundreds of feet, but not with the yellow background like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 21, 2018, 12:06:04 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 13, 2018, 11:06:34 PM
This is on Washington State 542 on the way to a ski area near Mt. Baker.  Seriously, who drives out to the mountains without a map hoping there might be a mountain pass? 

I can answer that.  Prison escapees from California who tried to get in to Canada at Peace Arch in the middle of the night and were refused entry at the border, then blew through the US entry side of the border crossing without stopping, and were driving flat out to escape the squadron of following Border Patrol and Washington State Patrol vehicles.  They turned up Route 542 hoping it would take them across a mountain pass, or at least to a spread out rural area where they could hide, because most state highways in California that go up into the mountains as far as a ski area continue through, but it dead ended.  My mom was on the jury for the case in the early 1990s.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 21, 2018, 12:55:53 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 20, 2018, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: US 89 on May 20, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
Salt Lake City, UT:

snipped image

I’ve never seen anything like this “600 Feet” before.
I have seen lead warnings in hundreds of feet, but not with the yellow background like that.

Here’s a similar sign just across the highway from the first one:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4252/35308579195_f23ac3cb85_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VN6GsP)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 24, 2018, 10:29:59 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/954/27465019787_5494808b87_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HQZpvV)Warning sign on Makena Rd, Maui (https://flic.kr/p/HQZpvV) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr

Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/Ry3iiebpYzA2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on May 26, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Yet another picture I saw on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/8ly1n2/well/) yesterday:
(https://i.redditmedia.com/V4tJjS3Hq6Ag5vwC3Vzd_K2VRP0IBF2YVec-7Flvo9o.jpg?w=576&s=0888d72e29af433457d63d7f2980a87d)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 26, 2018, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 26, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Yet another picture I saw on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/8ly1n2/well/) yesterday:

https://i.redditmedia.com/V4tJjS3Hq6Ag5vwC3Vzd_K2VRP0IBF2YVec-7Flvo9o.jpg?w=576&s=0888d72e29af433457d63d7f2980a87d

America is known for its road sign gaffes, but I don't even think Oklahoma would do something this stupid.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on May 26, 2018, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 26, 2018, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 26, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Yet another picture I saw on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/8ly1n2/well/) yesterday:

https://i.redditmedia.com/V4tJjS3Hq6Ag5vwC3Vzd_K2VRP0IBF2YVec-7Flvo9o.jpg?w=576&s=0888d72e29af433457d63d7f2980a87d

America is known for its road sign gaffes, but I don't even think Oklahoma would do something this stupid.

It seems more innovative than stupid. If you're facing either stop sign, the part sticking out won't block your vision at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 26, 2018, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 26, 2018, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 26, 2018, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 26, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Yet another picture I saw on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/8ly1n2/well/) yesterday:

https://i.redditmedia.com/V4tJjS3Hq6Ag5vwC3Vzd_K2VRP0IBF2YVec-7Flvo9o.jpg?w=576&s=0888d72e29af433457d63d7f2980a87d

America is known for its road sign gaffes, but I don't even think Oklahoma would do something this stupid.

It seems more innovative than stupid. If you're facing either stop sign, the part sticking out won't block your vision at all.

It's an attempt at innovation, but it doesn't look to have worked. One of the edges is bent, which ruins the illusion from both angles. Would have been better just to place the stop signs on different levels.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on May 26, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
This rather verbose sign in Marietta, GA fortunately has a helpful summary posted under it. (Also, I just noticed they misspelled the name of their own city.)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2Fday_labor_sign.jpg&hash=51f866c48f6bdd89224b85d0002ce4f30f22a314)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on May 26, 2018, 11:33:00 PM
For some reason, all of the US 12 signs for the detour west of Coldwater, MI are wide shields.

(https://i.imgur.com/Pn7YSAVl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 27, 2018, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Eth on May 26, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
This rather verbose sign in Marietta, GA fortunately has a helpful summary posted under it. (Also, I just noticed they misspelled the name of their own city.)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2Fday_labor_sign.jpg&hash=51f866c48f6bdd89224b85d0002ce4f30f22a314)

So it IS legal in Marietta to pick up prostitutes after sundown??   :wave:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 27, 2018, 10:33:07 PM
Someone mentioned this sign in another thread, but I can't find that mention.  When I try to search "Renton" here I get all the mentions of "Trenton" too.  This sign has since been removed, leaving just the overhead support.  This is at the east end of SR 900 in Renton, Washington, right before it turns in to a one-way couplet of congested downtown.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/898/28525632918_8f779c2249_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KsHjRd)SR 900 Jct. with SR 167, Renton, Washington (https://flic.kr/p/KsHjRd) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr

This picture was taken on April 27, 2007.  This was the day my 1996 Ford Escort, my first car, bought in 1998, died in traffic on the way to a trip across the state.  I had it towed luckily only about eight miles back to the shop near my home.  Later in the day the mechanic would declare it totaled, and said all Ford Escorts die like this.  I kept a look out for similar model Escorts in the future, and jealously saw a few of them poking along in traffic.  Instead of saving up money for a new car, I would blow the money once a month on a rented Flexcar to drive somewhere.  By November I got beat up on a bus ride home from work late Saturday night, and begged my step-dad to cosign a car loan.  Instead he gave me his 2002 Ford Focus station wagon and bought a new car a little sooner than he would have wanted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 27, 2018, 10:54:43 PM
In Yakima, Washington is an irrigation canal that runs right through residential neighborhoods.  I'm sure the city uses any old piece of metal to make baffles in front of intake pipes, though this one looks like its directing traffic on the canal.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/42349485442_f3bdaf3995_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27whbA7)Sign directing canal traffic? (https://flic.kr/p/27whbA7) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 28, 2018, 03:03:24 PM
I'm sure this thread already has examples of incorrectly-used (read: negative contrast) Clearview, but this is a sign I've passed many times only to finally bother getting a picture of it on Friday. This is on I-35 NB in Iowa, a bit north of Ankeny. It's the only one I've seen (or remember seeing) like it. Maybe this is too mundane for this thread, but I find it interesting anyway (maybe also because it's an odd use of mixed case!)

(https://i.imgur.com/v5sk2Zh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 28, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
^ Also appropriate for the sign design errors thread, given the negative contrast Clearview and improper use of lower case on a regulatory sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2018, 04:03:46 AM
Quote from: roadfro on May 28, 2018, 04:00:04 PM
^ Also appropriate for the sign design errors thread, given the negative contrast Clearview and improper use of lower case on a regulatory sign.

Which reminds me. Why is this the case? Humans tend to take in words quicker when we can make out the shape of a word before the letters are clear (we recognise a few key letter shapes and the brain fills in the middle bits). It would make sense, then, for all signs to be mixed case, not just guide signs.

The sign reminds me of this warning sign that was briefly installed along IA-27/58 at Greenhill Road in Cedar Falls (from at least 2006). I don't know why I like it so much, but I do...

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/clearviewdesignfaqs/images/fig1a1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 05:00:43 AM
I like the look of mixed-case signs better as well, but I think there may be some "common wisdom" that says people perceive all-caps to be stronger and more authoritative or something. I don't know if there's data for that assumption, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 29, 2018, 02:50:46 PM
The "State Law Move Over"  sign is actually pretty hard to read, mostly because the text is quite narrow. I don't know if there are different widths of Clearview like the different series of FHWA, but if there are, they certainly used a too-narrow version on that sign. The "Be Prepared to Stop"  sign is a little crowded but is more readable than the "move over for emergency vehicles"  sign because the text looks wider. Of course, in both cases I'd rather have all-caps FHWA used. I think it's much easier to read.

Also, why is Clearview only approved for positive contrast? Is it just a technicality that happened because Clearview advocates never explicitly applied for negative contrast approval, or is there a real reason?

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 05:00:43 AM
I think there may be some "common wisdom" that says people perceive all-caps to be stronger and more authoritative or something. I don't know if there's data for that assumption, though.

That might be part of it. My guess is that mixed-case takes up more space, since you have to leave extra space for the bottom half of some lowercase letters like g and y, so to avoid this problem they just use all caps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2018, 03:20:29 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 29, 2018, 02:50:46 PM
Also, why is Clearview only approved for positive contrast? Is it just a technicality that happened because Clearview advocates never explicitly applied for negative contrast approval, or is there a real reason?

Negative contrast Highway Gothic was found to be more readable than its Clearview counterpart.

Quote from: US 89 on May 29, 2018, 02:50:46 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 05:00:43 AM
I think there may be some "common wisdom" that says people perceive all-caps to be stronger and more authoritative or something. I don't know if there's data for that assumption, though.

That might be part of it. My guess is that mixed-case takes up more space, since you have to leave extra space for the bottom half of some lowercase letters like g and y, so to avoid this problem they just use all caps.

Vertically, yes there can be issues with letter tails (though line spacing requirements generally make this a non-issue). But horizontally, mixed case is usually better because it's not block width, as is the case with capital letters. Which means that some letters like i, l, and j take up less space (assuming the typeface is programmed correctly).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on May 29, 2018, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2018, 04:03:46 AM
The sign reminds me of this warning sign that was briefly installed along IA-27/58 at Greenhill Road in Cedar Falls (from at least 2006). I don't know why I like it so much, but I do...

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/clearviewdesignfaqs/images/fig1a1.jpg)

At a minimum, the text needs to be slightly smaller. The word "Flashing" in particular is really crammed in there.

Apart from that...I can't really articulate why I don't like it (other than for aesthetic reasons). I guess I'd need to see it in context to figure out whether or not it actually is more readable (in this case, it's possible that the downgrade by using negative-contrast Clearview is cancelled out by the use of mixed-case).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 29, 2018, 05:32:17 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 29, 2018, 03:44:01 PM
Apart from that...I can't really articulate why I don't like it (other than for aesthetic reasons). I guess I'd need to see it in context to figure out whether or not it actually is more readable (in this case, it's possible that the downgrade by using negative-contrast Clearview is cancelled out by the use of mixed-case).

Me either. I think it looks unprofessional and amateurish to use mixed case negative contrast Clearview, but I think that's probably a very roadgeek-esque opinion. I highly doubt the average Joe Schmoe gives two shits either way about the typeface and the mixed/upper case issue.

Now, compare that to the way Minnesota installs and signs similar warning signs and beacons (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4019283,-93.2351168,3a,75y,178.34h,88.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0iE69-FWDYWsvG8Pp-3Ytw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Again, my opinion might be a bit tainted, but I think it looks way better and conveys the message more appropriately.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
Having seen OTA use mixed-case FHWA Series on occasion, it looks fine enough. These examples have other technical mishaps that cause them to look ugly (the all-too-common lack of margins, wrong series used, etc.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2018, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
Having seen OTA use mixed-case FHWA Series on occasion, it looks fine enough. These examples have other technical mishaps that cause them to look ugly (the all-too-common lack of margins, wrong series used, etc.)

I think this hits the nail on the head. Clearview often looks bad because, invariably, the installer will use the wrong width, or make the typeface too large, and it looks stupid. Like if FHWA Series A were used on a warning sign. To us, it might be cool because "Series A", but, subjectively, it looks rather odd. The sign I posted above probably looks bad because the text is too large for the sign, and the bottom plaque isn't wide enough. Nothing to do with Clearview.

Personally, I'd rather the W3-3 sign, with a supplemental "When Flashing" plaque, were used instead of all text. But I by no means am opposed to anything else. Aesthetically, I do like mixed-case Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
In 2006, I stayed in a hotel across the street from the Education Department building in Washington, DC.  Outside the guard shack was this faux-retro crosswalk signs.  It seems retro because it uses figures that are less modern than Dot Man, but it is printed on a neon-green backing.  At least I think I remember them that way.  It's hard to tell under sodium vapor light.  I could only take this at night because I was afraid of being accosted by the guard.  If they wanted to be more authentic, they should have printed it on yellow.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1745/27575629907_63c7678162_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J1Lj3X)Retro crosswalk sign outside US Department of Education, Washington, DC (https://flic.kr/p/J1Lj3X) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr

Edit: Never mind, they are yellow, unless they switched them since then.  Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/wN3N7bAJtCq)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 30, 2018, 03:19:14 PM
Has anyone put this here yet?

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9566552,-92.22897,3a,20.7y,95.93h,81.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siDamhu31XGDajdiedsMFUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This sign has since been removed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 30, 2018, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
In 2006, I stayed in a hotel across the street from the Education Department building in Washington, DC.  Outside the guard shack was this faux-retro crosswalk signs.  It seems retro because it uses figures that are less modern than Dot Man, but it is printed on a neon-green backing.  At least I think I remember them that way.  It's hard to tell under sodium vapor light.  I could only take this at night because I was afraid of being accosted by the guard.  If they wanted to be more authentic, they should have printed it on yellow.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1745/27575629907_63c7678162_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J1Lj3X)Retro crosswalk sign outside US Department of Education, Washington, DC (https://flic.kr/p/J1Lj3X) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr

Edit: Never mind, they are yellow, unless they switched them since then.  Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/wN3N7bAJtCq)

Never seen one like this before, the closest I've seen are the ones with adult and child on it near schools. Nice find!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on May 31, 2018, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 30, 2018, 03:19:14 PM
Has anyone put this here yet?

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9566552,-92.22897,3a,20.7y,95.93h,81.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siDamhu31XGDajdiedsMFUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This sign has since been removed.
Looks kind of like a speed limit sign. Is that what it was modeled after?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 31, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
Kinda-sorta seen in another thread re: traffic signals, I found this interesting sign in the Philly area:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0417339,-75.0883064,3a,75y,325.15h,82.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swZ3ra3lLTnxFX_iWV_x8Bw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on May 31, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 31, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
Kinda-sorta seen in another thread re: traffic signals, I found this interesting sign in the Philly area:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0417339,-75.0883064,3a,75y,325.15h,82.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swZ3ra3lLTnxFX_iWV_x8Bw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

what sign are you talking about? your link isn't aimed at any signs, and panning around the intersection doesn't reveal anything out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on May 31, 2018, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: odditude on May 31, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 31, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
Kinda-sorta seen in another thread re: traffic signals, I found this interesting sign in the Philly area:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0417339,-75.0883064,3a,75y,325.15h,82.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swZ3ra3lLTnxFX_iWV_x8Bw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

what sign are you talking about? your link isn't aimed at any signs, and panning around the intersection doesn't reveal anything out of the ordinary.

Probably the North 232 unisign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on May 31, 2018, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 31, 2018, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: odditude on May 31, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 31, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
Kinda-sorta seen in another thread re: traffic signals, I found this interesting sign in the Philly area:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0417339,-75.0883064,3a,75y,325.15h,82.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swZ3ra3lLTnxFX_iWV_x8Bw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

what sign are you talking about? your link isn't aimed at any signs, and panning around the intersection doesn't reveal anything out of the ordinary.

Probably the North 232 unisign.

ah. those are common in the Philadelphia area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 31, 2018, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on May 31, 2018, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 30, 2018, 03:19:14 PM
Has anyone put this here yet?

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9566552,-92.22897,3a,20.7y,95.93h,81.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siDamhu31XGDajdiedsMFUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This sign has since been removed.
Looks kind of like a speed limit sign. Is that what it was modeled after?

If you move around the corner a bit in that street view and look again, you'll see that it's for an Arkansas state route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Quote from: plain on May 31, 2018, 04:35:05 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on May 31, 2018, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 30, 2018, 03:19:14 PM
Has anyone put this here yet?

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9566552,-92.22897,3a,20.7y,95.93h,81.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siDamhu31XGDajdiedsMFUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This sign has since been removed.
Looks kind of like a speed limit sign. Is that what it was modeled after?

If you move around the corner a bit in that street view and look again, you'll see that it's for an Arkansas state route.

Right. Kind of looks like a speed limit sign. Or at least the proportions are more akin to a speed limit sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on May 31, 2018, 06:19:41 PM
Hamburg, Germany, where older diesel vehicles are now banned on two roads:
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/05/31/gettyimages-963983610-b7623c40e0f8fad864476817c0ca2b25792b44e2-s800-c85.jpg)

Story from NPR:
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/05/31/615562825/could-a-diesel-ban-in-hamburg-germany-cause-more-pollution-some-residents-worry

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Yet, in America, only old cars are exempt from emissions control! New cars should obviously have to meet a standard, but this whole '25-years-old, anything goes' crap really needs updating.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Yet, in America, only old cars are exempt from emissions control! New cars should obviously have to meet a standard, but this whole '25-years-old, anything goes' crap really needs updating.

That's what the Cash for Clunkers program was supposed to help with. Of course, it also caused the used car market to contract, making finding affordable used cars more difficult.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 01, 2018, 03:38:08 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Yet, in America, only old cars are exempt from emissions control! New cars should obviously have to meet a standard, but this whole '25-years-old, anything goes' crap really needs updating.

That's what the Cash for Clunkers program was supposed to help with. Of course, it also caused the used car market to contract, making finding affordable used cars more difficult.

Also explains why old Street View images are littered with all sorts of old-but-gold hoopties, all of which seem to have up and disappeared in the last ten years. Did they all finally blow up, or did the government crush them? :-(

It's a bitter-sweet world. Old cars are obviously cool, but damn, they are really dirty.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on June 01, 2018, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 01, 2018, 03:38:08 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Yet, in America, only old cars are exempt from emissions control! New cars should obviously have to meet a standard, but this whole '25-years-old, anything goes' crap really needs updating.

That's what the Cash for Clunkers program was supposed to help with. Of course, it also caused the used car market to contract, making finding affordable used cars more difficult.

Also explains why old Street View images are littered with all sorts of old-but-gold hoopties, all of which seem to have up and disappeared in the last ten years. Did they all finally blow up, or did the government crush them? :-(

It's a bitter-sweet world. Old cars are obviously cool, but damn, they are really dirty.

By law, they were crushed. They couldn't even be stripped for parts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 PM
I don't find this that bad, but I thought I'd still put this here.

(https://vgy.me/ZnaDO9.png)

Taken earlier today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 01, 2018, 11:05:46 PM
^^ The stretched out 67's and the wide space in S pringfield make it qualify.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on June 02, 2018, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Yet, in America, only old cars are exempt from emissions control! New cars should obviously have to meet a standard, but this whole '25-years-old, anything goes' crap really needs updating.

That's what the Cash for Clunkers program was supposed to help with. Of course, it also caused the used car market to contract, making finding affordable used cars more difficult.
Cash for clunkers didn't allow cars more then 25 years old. The program definitely made things a lot more difficult for the poor around here, they were stuck with their vehicles because they couldn't afford to get a new vehicle, and all the good potential replacement vehicles they usually got went to the program and were destroyed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on June 03, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Quote from: Big John on June 01, 2018, 11:05:46 PM
^^ The stretched out 67's and the wide space in S pringfield make it qualify.

are they stretched out, or are they Series E with bad kerning? either way, they're bad.

i can't imagine that BUSINESS panel being terribly legible at-speed, either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on June 03, 2018, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: odditude on June 03, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Quote from: Big John on June 01, 2018, 11:05:46 PM
^^ The stretched out 67's and the wide space in S pringfield make it qualify.

are they stretched out, or are they Series E with bad kerning? either way, they're bad.

i can't imagine that BUSINESS panel being terribly legible at-speed, either.

Playing around with it a bit in Illustrator, stretching a Series D "67" out to Series E width and applying "optical" kerning produces something pretty damn close to this result.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on June 03, 2018, 04:05:03 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on June 02, 2018, 11:35:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 01, 2018, 03:22:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 31, 2018, 07:29:56 PM
Yet, in America, only old cars are exempt from emissions control! New cars should obviously have to meet a standard, but this whole '25-years-old, anything goes' crap really needs updating.

That's what the Cash for Clunkers program was supposed to help with. Of course, it also caused the used car market to contract, making finding affordable used cars more difficult.
Cash for clunkers didn't allow cars more then 25 years old. The program definitely made things a lot more difficult for the poor around here, they were stuck with their vehicles because they couldn't afford to get a new vehicle, and all the good potential replacement vehicles they usually got went to the program and were destroyed.

But since 8-9 years have passed, plenty of second-hand and third-hand vehicles have entered the used car fold. A handful of classics wound up destroyed, but also a lot of undesirable vehicles which probably needed more work than the trade-in would be worth in return. An owner with a troubled vehicle likely would have wound up with another expensively-afflicted car. The lower-end of the market suffered, though it could definitely be argued that there were more than enough unwanted-but-unsold vehicles of all types to go around.

CFC was designed to help one industry: new vehicle automobile dealerships at a time when they were ailing and automotive production facilities were failing. The only side effect with much benefit was the metal scrapping industry. It was no good to most independent used car dealers, parts houses, junkyards, et al.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on June 03, 2018, 09:48:50 PM
Button copy still exists in Arkansas.

All of these photos were taken earlier today.

(https://vgy.me/YUrHaq.png)

(https://vgy.me/x8G9fE.png)

(https://vgy.me/vu6zYA.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on June 03, 2018, 10:00:23 PM
Old barrier marker on Lake Sammamish Parkway.  This road was former Washington State Highway 901, decertified in 1992.  Google Street View (//http://)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1741/42496766642_83b2d98f7a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27Ki3a9)Old barrier marker on Lake Sammamish Parkway (https://flic.kr/p/27Ki3a9) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on June 04, 2018, 12:58:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 10, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on May 10, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Nice photo. I was there last summer and I didn't take a picture. Ugh!! :ded:

Don't worry, there's a million photos (thankfully).

I think it's probably the oldest sign in Washington. Any others that might be older that anyone knows of?

Challenge accepted.

These are on Boeing Access Road (officially in Tukwila). I would be willing to bet these signs to the opening of I-5 in late 1967.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1757/27691221247_fc7a3ea3df_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JbYKk6)IMG_9082 (https://flic.kr/p/JbYKk6) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr

Spokane, on eastbound 2nd Ave approaching Browne Street:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1745/42509009512_1425681cf5_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27LnMx7)IMG_8519 (https://flic.kr/p/27LnMx7) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr

Spokane, southbound Stevens Street approaching 2nd Ave. I'm pretty sure this sign dates to the 1960's.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1756/40752739730_43142fd861_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256brHC)IMG_8515 (https://flic.kr/p/256brHC) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr

There are three separate signs at the south end of the Maple Street Bridge. The bridge was opened in 1958, and was a toll bridge until 1990. These signs date to before the tolls were removed, but they appear to be from the bridge's early days.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1734/42561029301_c96b70d988_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27QYpd2)IMG_8474 (https://flic.kr/p/27QYpd2) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1728/42509032222_f2384595f2_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27LnUhE)IMG_8469 (https://flic.kr/p/27LnUhE) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1724/42561052171_8e1976dcfe_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27QYw1k)IMG_8468 (https://flic.kr/p/27QYw1k) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1755/42509037302_e44f5cfaa2_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27LnVNf)IMG_8467 (https://flic.kr/p/27LnVNf) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr

Spokane, at the corner of 2nd Ave and Adams Street. The portion of I-90 in the west end of town opened in 1965. This sign appears to have de-mountable lettering, but dates to before botton copy. It likely dates to the 60's.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1732/28687475888_24942cabdf_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KH1P8f)IMG_8463 (https://flic.kr/p/KH1P8f) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr

A state-erected mileage sign heading west out of LaCrosse. This road was SR 26 until circa 1969. This sign then would almost certainly date to the 60's as well.

This is what it looks like normally (very faded):
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1726/27763581747_1066b3c2fa_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JinBzV)IMG_8194 (https://flic.kr/p/JinBzV) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr

And what it looks like with the camera flash on:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1752/42561147401_301087fd94_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27QZ1je)IMG_8192 (https://flic.kr/p/27QZ1je) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 06, 2018, 06:42:15 PM
That's just back to the mid 1960s.  There must be older signs.  Obviously not interstates, and the old US 10 signs will all be gone, but maybe some US 101 or US 2 sign where nobody's done much work since they were new?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on June 07, 2018, 01:13:46 PM
It is possible, but I have hunted extensively around the state on Google Street View and in person, and I have not found anything older. I seriously think these are the oldest we have in the Evergreen State.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 07, 2018, 02:28:15 PM
The West Seattle "Fwy" signs along 99 southbound were replaced a few months ago. Those certainly would have been up there in age. Still had the green-out from when the name changed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 09, 2018, 11:37:23 PM
This has probably been around a while, but I just found out about this one.

(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5565/14604925100_cb0be467f4_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 10, 2018, 02:21:56 AM
I hope you turned around in their driveway after getting a picture of that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 02:33:42 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 10, 2018, 02:21:56 AM
I hope you turned around in their driveway after getting a picture of that sign.

My driveway has a "NO TURNAROUND" sign posted at the beginning because back-out is the only option, not because we don't welcome lost strangers. Some idiot delivery drivers try to turn around in the grass to the left of our gate, but because of the slight decline from the driveway, they get stuck. We've had two Ford Transit/Amazon delivery drivers dig holes into our grass. Our gate now has a "BACK OUT ONLY" sign on it. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 10, 2018, 03:04:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 02:33:42 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 10, 2018, 02:21:56 AM
I hope you turned around in their driveway after getting a picture of that sign.
My driveway has a "NO TURNAROUND" sign posted at the beginning because back-out is the only option, not because we don't welcome lost strangers. Some idiot delivery drivers try to turn around in the grass to the left of our gate, but because of the slight decline from the driveway, they get stuck. We've had two Ford Transit/Amazon delivery drivers dig holes into our grass. Our gate now has a "BACK OUT ONLY" sign on it. :-D

Ha. Well, I only made my original comment because that white-on-red sign offends quite a few of my roadgeek sensibilities, not because those people might not welcome strangers. ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 04:09:13 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 10, 2018, 03:04:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 02:33:42 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 10, 2018, 02:21:56 AM
I hope you turned around in their driveway after getting a picture of that sign.
My driveway has a "NO TURNAROUND" sign posted at the beginning because back-out is the only option, not because we don't welcome lost strangers. Some idiot delivery drivers try to turn around in the grass to the left of our gate, but because of the slight decline from the driveway, they get stuck. We've had two Ford Transit/Amazon delivery drivers dig holes into our grass. Our gate now has a "BACK OUT ONLY" sign on it. :-D
Ha. Well, I only made my original comment because that white-on-red sign offends quite a few of my roadgeek sensibilities, not because those people might not welcome strangers. ;-)

There's this perception that those types of signs are put up because people don't want random strangers come down their driveways, which I could understand (and it's probably the case somewhat often). But from my experience, they are often put up because there literally isn't enough room at the end of the driveway to perform any sort of turnaround maneuver, so they don't want drivers even attempting to go down the driveway, because they will get stuck (lest they know how to reverse!)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 10, 2018, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 02:33:42 AMMy driveway has a "NO TURNAROUND" sign posted at the beginning because back-out is the only option, not because we don't welcome lost strangers. Some idiot delivery drivers try to turn around in the grass to the left of our gate, but because of the slight decline from the driveway, they get stuck. We've had two Ford Transit/Amazon delivery drivers dig holes into our grass. Our gate now has a "BACK OUT ONLY" sign on it. :-D

Can't they just back in and then drive out?  That is the approach I would try, especially if there is no turnaround loop or other means of maneuvering in and out while remaining continuously nose-forward.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 10, 2018, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 10, 2018, 02:33:42 AMMy driveway has a "NO TURNAROUND" sign posted at the beginning because back-out is the only option, not because we don't welcome lost strangers. Some idiot delivery drivers try to turn around in the grass to the left of our gate, but because of the slight decline from the driveway, they get stuck. We've had two Ford Transit/Amazon delivery drivers dig holes into our grass. Our gate now has a "BACK OUT ONLY" sign on it. :-D

Can't they just back in and then drive out?  That is the approach I would try, especially if there is no turnaround loop or other means of maneuvering in and out while remaining continuously nose-forward.

Oh for sure. But the driveway is about a fifth of a mile long, so most don't think to do that straight away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.

(and I have experienced multiple times elsewhere in Chicagoland the same quality of drivers that probably led to the installation of this sign).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 13, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.

That's gotta be the first time I've ever seen all signal heads in one particular direction be five-section towers. For WB Bailey Rd, there's two heads on the mast arm, one mast mounted corner head, and a near-side head, and all are five-section heads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 13, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 13, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.

That's gotta be the first time I've ever seen all signal heads in one particular direction be five-section towers. For WB Bailey Rd, there's two heads on the mast arm, one mast mounted corner head, and a near-side head, and all are five-section heads.

Yeah, that's pretty unusual! I know from looking around Chicagoland on street view, if there was going to be a part of the country with more than two (or all) 5-section signals on an approach, it would be in Illinois. Just about every intersection has some sort of right turn filter. I have never seen a right turn yield in that state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 13, 2018, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 13, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.

That's gotta be the first time I've ever seen all signal heads in one particular direction be five-section towers. For WB Bailey Rd, there's two heads on the mast arm, one mast mounted corner head, and a near-side head, and all are five-section heads.

Yeah, that's pretty unusual! I know from looking around Chicagoland on street view, if there was going to be a part of the country with more than two (or all) 5-section signals on an approach, it would be in Illinois. Just about every intersection has some sort of right turn filter. I have never seen a right turn yield in that state.
Its introverted lol!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 13, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.

That's gotta be the first time I've ever seen all signal heads in one particular direction be five-section towers. For WB Bailey Rd, there's two heads on the mast arm, one mast mounted corner head, and a near-side head, and all are five-section heads.

Yeah, that's pretty unusual! I know from looking around Chicagoland on street view, if there was going to be a part of the country with more than two (or all) 5-section signals on an approach, it would be in Illinois. Just about every intersection has some sort of right turn filter. I have never seen a right turn yield in that state.

They are a few in Illinois; there was a thread on it (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11370.msg271203#msg271203)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 13, 2018, 11:59:35 PM
Noticed this outline US 101 shield on a BGS in Mountain View today.  Caltrans mostly posts solid white US Route shields on BGSs:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1732/40976822470_ea4365ed89_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25qYVH9)101USk (https://flic.kr/p/25qYVH9) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 14, 2018, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 13, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 13, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.

That's gotta be the first time I've ever seen all signal heads in one particular direction be five-section towers. For WB Bailey Rd, there's two heads on the mast arm, one mast mounted corner head, and a near-side head, and all are five-section heads.

Yeah, that's pretty unusual! I know from looking around Chicagoland on street view, if there was going to be a part of the country with more than two (or all) 5-section signals on an approach, it would be in Illinois. Just about every intersection has some sort of right turn filter. I have never seen a right turn yield in that state.

They are a few in Illinois; there was a thread on it (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11370.msg271203#msg271203)

Ah, so there are. Interesting that IDOT prefers signalised right turns. Most states seem to prefer right turns at intersection's, or slip lanes with yield signs, not a combo of the two.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on June 14, 2018, 09:17:16 AM
Somehow I don't find this reassuring.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/32cb32ee8fd7f7db907eb56a302d8320.jpg)
One of the other signs in the area has only "detour" blacked out on a "detour ahead".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on June 14, 2018, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 13, 2018, 11:59:35 PM
Noticed this outline US 101 shield on a BGS in Mountain View today.  Caltrans mostly posts solid white US Route shields on BGSs:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1732/40976822470_ea4365ed89_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25qYVH9)101USk (https://flic.kr/p/25qYVH9) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

That's because that sign is an old spec. I believe that dates to about 1960. The patch above the shield used to say "Bypass". When the 101 freeway was first opened between SF and San Jose, it was US 101 Bypass and El Camino Real was US 101 mainline. The switch came in 1964, likely when the patch was put up. Outline US shields are getting pretty rare in California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on June 14, 2018, 06:43:10 PM
A "No Trespassing" sign for a private residence, the installation of which is a trespass on county ROW.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1758/27702953197_2cb634982c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jd1SQ6)
20180524_104841 (https://flic.kr/p/Jd1SQ6) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on June 15, 2018, 09:18:12 PM
I feel like this could be a candidate for Worst Of, but I'm vaguely afraid to post there.

I know it's greenout, but clearly Oklahoma doesn't have a monopoly on crazy mixed font sizes and cases...

Alaska State
FAIRGround (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.5760104,-149.1427695,3a,15y,67.4h,87.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8L2izd9BymuwVwx3ZXk-0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Also, I don't have any idea what the greenout could be covering.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on June 16, 2018, 05:08:18 AM
Quote from: jay8g on June 15, 2018, 09:18:12 PM
I feel like this could be a candidate for Worst Of, but I'm vaguely afraid to post there.

I know it's greenout, but clearly Oklahoma doesn't have a monopoly on crazy mixed font sizes and cases...

Alaska State
FAIRGround (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.5760104,-149.1427695,3a,15y,67.4h,87.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8L2izd9BymuwVwx3ZXk-0w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Also, I don't have any idea what the greenout could be covering.

I have a suspicion it was two words: Fair Ground.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 16, 2018, 06:11:05 AM
From the road sign game:
Quote from: TBKS1 on June 15, 2018, 04:13:42 PM
Madrid >> Dyersburg (Tennessee)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1749/27814548457_8d1ee7c639_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/JnSQdi)I-55 (MO) Exit 17A/B &amp; 19 (https://flic.kr/p/JnSQdi) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I know MoDOT is the master of awkward arrow placement, but this takes the cake!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: akotchi on June 16, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
Under the "interesting" category, I offer the following:

As part of the ongoing change of I-95 in New Jersey and Pennsylvania to I-295, contractors have been systematically changing exit numbers and route numbers, while also correcting control cities here and there.  Another thread captures the gory details, so I will just concentrate on this context.

For a short time, the weekend of June 9 and 10, the following sign sequence was visible.  The left photo is on I-295 WB (former I-95 SB) at the U.S. 1 interchange in Langhorne, PA.  The BGS reflects the new information -- exit number and control city changed (from Morrisville).  Following the cloverleaf loop ramp the BGS points to leads to the right photo, which is on U.S. 1 NB, with the I-295 overpass in the background.  The BGS still reflected the old information -- route and control city.  So . . . guidance to Trenton was a u-turn movement for that short interval -- though considering one would be leaving the Trenton area to pass through this sequence, it probably would not have been a big deal.  The sign has been replaced in the last week with I-295 East/Princeton.  (The right photo is actually GMSV since I did not catch it before it was replaced, but I can vouch that this sign combination did exist for a short time.)

As this is near my home and I go through this area frequently, I find these types of interim conditions during resigning projects (especially when not carbon copy replacements) to be interesting . . .

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1801/28962075718_8545eb697a_b.jpg)  (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1732/41934216315_d39e9ca733_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on June 16, 2018, 03:21:20 PM
All of us should ignore GPS lmao

This is White Oak Rd beginning at Williamsburg Rd (US 60) in eastern Henrico Co, Va. There are other ignore GPS signs on Williamsburg Rd itself approaching White Oak. None of these signs are on Street View yet (but other truck warning signs are), I'm thinking they are under a year old

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180616/02a669eaefe202ab28f0c874799c8df6.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on June 16, 2018, 05:51:20 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 16, 2018, 06:11:05 AM
From the road sign game:
Quote from: TBKS1 on June 15, 2018, 04:13:42 PM
Madrid >> Dyersburg (Tennessee)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1749/27814548457_8d1ee7c639_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/JnSQdi)I-55 (MO) Exit 17A/B &amp; 19 (https://flic.kr/p/JnSQdi) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr

I know MoDOT is the master of awkward arrow placement, but this takes the cake!

That took me forever to figure out. I had no idea about that arrow until you said it. lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on June 16, 2018, 06:41:35 PM
Quote from: plain on June 16, 2018, 03:21:20 PM
All of us should ignore GPS lmao

This is White Oak Rd beginning at Williamsburg Rd (US 60) in eastern Henrico Co, Va. There are other ignore GPS signs on Williamsburg Rd itself approaching White Oak. None of these signs are on Street View yet (but other truck warning signs are), I'm thinking they are under a year old

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180616/02a669eaefe202ab28f0c874799c8df6.jpg)

SM-S820L
NY NEEEEDS these, as apperently it is a common occurrence to have high trucks ram bridges there....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on June 16, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on June 16, 2018, 06:41:35 PM
NY NEEEEDS these, as apperently it is a common occurrence to have high trucks ram bridges there....

More signs will not solve the problem of trucks ignoring signs...

Signage on most NY parkways has been recently updated and is more than sufficient–some trucks will *always* drive onto prohibited roads unless you can physically exclude them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on June 18, 2018, 03:14:19 PM
If they included "Ignore GPS" on BGS exit and entrance signs, GPS would actually read it to the driver (possibly). That might work at the expense of MUCD compliance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on June 18, 2018, 04:31:39 PM
Quote from: akotchi on June 16, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
Under the "interesting" category, I offer the following:

As part of the ongoing change of I-95 in New Jersey and Pennsylvania to I-295, contractors have been systematically changing exit numbers and route numbers, while also correcting control cities here and there.  Another thread captures the gory details, so I will just concentrate on this context.

For a short time, the weekend of June 9 and 10, the following sign sequence was visible.  The left photo is on I-295 WB (former I-95 SB) at the U.S. 1 interchange in Langhorne, PA.  The BGS reflects the new information -- exit number and control city changed (from Morrisville).  Following the cloverleaf loop ramp the BGS points to leads to the right photo, which is on U.S. 1 NB, with the I-295 overpass in the background.  The BGS still reflected the old information -- route and control city.  So . . . guidance to Trenton was a u-turn movement for that short interval -- though considering one would be leaving the Trenton area to pass through this sequence, it probably would not have been a big deal.  The sign has been replaced in the last week with I-295 East/Princeton.  (The right photo is actually GMSV since I did not catch it before it was replaced, but I can vouch that this sign combination did exist for a short time.)

As this is near my home and I go through this area frequently, I find these types of interim conditions during resigning projects (especially when not carbon copy replacements) to be interesting . . .

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1801/28962075718_8545eb697a_b.jpg)  (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1732/41934216315_d39e9ca733_b.jpg)
Personally, I am very surprised that that particular BGS for I-95 northbound wasn't changed to list Princeton when its companion BGS along US 1 southbound was changed many years (if not a decade) ago.

Additionally & IMHO, changing the US 1 northbound control city from Morrisville to Trenton is more important for the BGS' along I-95 northbound (future I-295 eastbound) than it is from the opposite direction... most of that traffic is coming from the surrounding Trenton area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: oscar on June 18, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
From last week's day trip, an interesting sign entering the little village of Esmont VA (better than the unoriginal "Drive Like Your Children Live Here" signs I saw elsewhere in the village):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alaskaroads.com%2FSlowYourRoll-sign-EsmontVA-DSC_7698.jpg&hash=afd781bc418ab4c40223229cc004488222707f26)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on June 19, 2018, 07:48:20 AM
I see that on variable-message signs in the Chicago area quite often.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 19, 2018, 11:14:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/41078963760/in/dateposted-public/
Not only are the Business Routes Green bordered, but the US 23 Business shield has the word "Business" completely spelled out where the US 1 and GA 4 shields are abbreviated.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 20, 2018, 12:10:47 AM
Bought a weird CA 99 shield on a white blank.  I'm fairly certain that this is a shield from the City of Fresno as they typically use the same font on highway shields:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1782/42193939394_3b317eddcc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27hwYaG)IMG_7686 (https://flic.kr/p/27hwYaG) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 21, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.
The object markers diagonally across from that sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.740241,-88.1178933,3a,75y,134.5h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRpX3mmo1JP73mpQbMqVgzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) are interesting too.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 21, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 21, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.
The object markers diagonally across from that sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.740241,-88.1178933,3a,75y,134.5h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRpX3mmo1JP73mpQbMqVgzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) are interesting too.


Looks like a pair of folded-up stop signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 21, 2018, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 21, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 21, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.
The object markers diagonally across from that sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.740241,-88.1178933,3a,75y,134.5h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRpX3mmo1JP73mpQbMqVgzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) are interesting too.


Looks like a pair of folded-up stop signs.

I think he's talking about these: https://goo.gl/maps/58CTcGbzkg12
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: spooky on June 21, 2018, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 21, 2018, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 21, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 21, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.
The object markers diagonally across from that sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.740241,-88.1178933,3a,75y,134.5h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRpX3mmo1JP73mpQbMqVgzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) are interesting too.


Looks like a pair of folded-up stop signs.

I think he's talking about these: https://goo.gl/maps/58CTcGbzkg12

There are half-folded stop signs on the other three approaches, perhaps a failsafe towards a power outage instead of having to drag out temporary signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on June 21, 2018, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 21, 2018, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 21, 2018, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 21, 2018, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on June 13, 2018, 06:36:09 PM
Not sure this 'except on [white arrow on green circle]' sign from Naperville, IL (https://goo.gl/maps/ot4An4XgDXB2) has been posted yet.  There's a near side one for WB traffic as well.
The object markers diagonally across from that sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.740241,-88.1178933,3a,75y,134.5h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRpX3mmo1JP73mpQbMqVgzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) are interesting too.


Looks like a pair of folded-up stop signs.

I think he's talking about these: https://goo.gl/maps/58CTcGbzkg12
Yea, those were the ones that I was talking about in my post as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on June 21, 2018, 01:25:31 PM
I ran across this today in a retirement community in Lake Mary, FL.  They are serious about their speed limits!

(https://i.imgur.com/S8zGoGq.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 21, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
^^
That's some bullshit. Speed limit is in decimals, but the reader-board isn't? How the hell do you know if you're doing the limit?? :-D

I don't know why communities bother with BS like that. Speed limits are only allowed to be in increments of 5, and whole numbers (and nothing below 20 here in Washington). I could easily ignore this limit without fear of prosecution.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2018, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 21, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
^^
That's some bullshit. Speed limit is in decimals, but the reader-board isn't? How the hell do you know if you're doing the limit?? :-D

I don't know why communities bother with BS like that. Speed limits are only allowed to be in increments of 5, and whole numbers (and nothing below 20 here in Washington). I could easily ignore this limit without fear of prosecution.

Given that's in a likely private community in Florida they likely would sick the full-force of whatever oppressive HOA is behind that sign rather than prosecute.  Old Mid-Western folks sure do love rules, regulations, fines and not having people on their lawns.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on June 22, 2018, 09:41:55 AM
Quote from: chays on June 21, 2018, 01:25:31 PM
I ran across this today in a retirement community in Lake Mary, FL.  They are serious about their speed limits!

(https://i.imgur.com/S8zGoGq.jpg)

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2018, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 21, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
^^
That's some bullshit. Speed limit is in decimals, but the reader-board isn't? How the hell do you know if you're doing the limit?? :-D

I don't know why communities bother with BS like that. Speed limits are only allowed to be in increments of 5, and whole numbers (and nothing below 20 here in Washington). I could easily ignore this limit without fear of prosecution.

Given that's in a likely private community in Florida they likely would sick the full-force of whatever oppressive HOA is behind that sign rather than prosecute.  Old Mid-Western folks sure do love rules, regulations, fines and not having people on their lawns.

I've heard various reasons for odd speed limits, such as to prevent the police from setting "speed traps" if the limits are below a certain threshold due to local laws on private property. (This never made sense to me, either you have a limit or not; thus if posted, how would it be enforced?)

The other I've heard is that very low speed limits on private property or HOAs do not require seatbelts on golf carts, trams, et cetera. Given that Central Florida HOAs or the Quasi-Prinicipality of The Villages love their golf carts, I'm guessing it's mostly the latter.

On the other hand, we have a rather unique case fraction which uses the bar between the numbers on the sign, rather than a solidus fraction, which uses the slant, which is very common on big green guide signs. Nicely done!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 22, 2018, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: formulanone on June 22, 2018, 09:41:55 AM
The other I've heard is that very low speed limits on private property or HOAs do not require seatbelts on golf carts, trams, et cetera. Given that Central Florida HOAs or the Quasi-Prinicipality of The Villages love their golf carts, I'm guessing it's mostly the latter.

At least speaking for the Villages, the latter isn't true at all.  Golf Carts are permitted on authorized county and municipal roadways.  In most cases, the maximum speed for the vehicular portion of the roadway is 35 mph and generally speaking, there's a golf cart lane on the shoulder, but approaching some traffic lights the golf cart lane ends and the cart is to merge with regular traffic at the intersection.

Seat belts and even child restraints aren't required on golf carts driven in the street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on June 22, 2018, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 22, 2018, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: formulanone on June 22, 2018, 09:41:55 AM
The other I've heard is that very low speed limits on private property or HOAs do not require seatbelts on golf carts, trams, et cetera. Given that Central Florida HOAs or the Quasi-Prinicipality of The Villages love their golf carts, I'm guessing it's mostly the latter.

At least speaking for the Villages, the latter isn't true at all.  Golf Carts are permitted on authorized county and municipal roadways.  In most cases, the maximum speed for the vehicular portion of the roadway is 35 mph and generally speaking, there's a golf cart lane on the shoulder, but approaching some traffic lights the golf cart lane ends and the cart is to merge with regular traffic at the intersection.

Seat belts and even child restraints aren't required on golf carts driven in the street.

Potential disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on June 22, 2018, 06:51:49 PM
I think the rationale behind speed limit values like these is that an unusual number like 14 1/2 catches your eye more than a round number like 15 would. They make it unusual in the hopes that drivers will notice it and pay heed to it, rather than just ignoring the usual 15 mph sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on June 24, 2018, 12:15:18 AM
I was playing Geoguessr when I came across this...

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2294101,-92.0202446,3a,25.2y,305.08h,81.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svpa9m9DuHstmOtlaTpAEXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I've never seen this before. A wrong way concurrency between 2 business routes!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on June 24, 2018, 06:58:33 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on June 24, 2018, 12:15:18 AM
I was playing Geoguessr when I came across this...

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2294101,-92.0202446,3a,25.2y,305.08h,81.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svpa9m9DuHstmOtlaTpAEXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I've never seen this before. A wrong way concurrency between 2 business routes!

Ahh yes...good ol' Crime Bluff, AR. I worked there for a lil while before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, and I remember when those were the main lanes of US 65 & 79.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 27, 2018, 05:20:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/FSNYFZwWntr
I find this interesting the way Ridge Pike is signed as if were the side street and not the straight through.

The reason for this oddity is that Ridge Pike begins here and Germantown Pike comes in from behind the caption and turns left.  So the town or the county (whoever maintains this intersection) is showing that indeed Ridge Pike is a side street off of Germantown Pike heading to the left now.

Unusual that a straight through road gets a name plate on a traffic signal as many places roads change names but only the cross street gets signed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 27, 2018, 05:27:43 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 27, 2018, 05:20:15 PM
Unusual that a straight through road gets a name plate on a traffic signal as many places roads change names but only the cross street gets signed.

Yeah, that's odd. They should use an up arrow next to Ridge Pike to make it a bit clearer, since street blades perpendicular to through traffic indicate the name of the crossing street (as you well know). The way it's set up, the street blades are acting more like guide signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg)
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 30, 2018, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

Yikes. I'm almost certain that belongs in Worst Of.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 30, 2018, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 30, 2018, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

Yikes. I'm almost certain that belongs in Worst Of.

I don't see why it would be anywhere near the worst. The overall design isn't that bad. The speed limit isn't a multiple of 5, but that doesn't make it bad, either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 30, 2018, 08:45:53 PM
^^And in negative contrast clearview.  Since when is clearview used on California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 30, 2018, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: Big John on June 30, 2018, 08:45:53 PM
^^And in negative contrast clearview.  Since when is clearview used on California.

Clearview alone should not be a qualifier for worst-of (if that's what you're getting at).

Clearview has been used, but only once by Caltrans IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 10:14:03 PM
Should I have blurred the license plate?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 30, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 10:14:03 PM
Should I have blurred the license plate?

Absolutely not. Only cops have the power to look up plates; no idea why this country is so into blurring them. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy in public.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on July 01, 2018, 04:58:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 30, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
Only cops have the power to look up plates;

Is there no public registry in each state or on a federal level where you can look up plates to get non-identifying info about the vehicle? Like model, make, tax, number of previous owners, etc?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on July 01, 2018, 06:56:04 AM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg)
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

What does this sign mean? Drive around manhole cover at 17 mph?  :eyebrow:  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 01, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on July 01, 2018, 06:56:04 AM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg)
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

What does this sign mean? Drive around manhole cover at 17 mph?  :eyebrow:  :hmmm:

I'm assuming there is a traffic calming island in the middle of the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 04:58:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 30, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
Only cops have the power to look up plates;

Is there no public registry in each state or on a federal level where you can look up plates to get non-identifying info about the vehicle? Like model, make, tax, number of previous owners, etc?

There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 01, 2018, 01:36:09 PM
Noticed this black "180 East" sign on Kings Canyon Road in far east Fresno directing bike traffic to the CA 180 freeway to continue east.  Before the freeway was built CA 180 would continue ahead in the photo, now the road ends at the freeway about about a quarter mile east of the light at Temperance Avenue.  The black sign looks like it was recycled from somewhere and is an odd color choice I think:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1765/41322384120_c4b44268d6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25Xw29C)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/25Xw29C) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on July 01, 2018, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 01, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on July 01, 2018, 06:56:04 AM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg)
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

What does this sign mean? Drive around manhole cover at 17 mph?  :eyebrow:  :hmmm:

I'm assuming there is a traffic calming island in the middle of the road.
Actually, these are traffic circle (roundabout) signs, which I think makes them even worse. I should've made that clearer, sorry
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on July 01, 2018, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.

So plates belong to and move with the person rather than with the car? Interesting, and not something I've heard about before. Here plates remain with the car throughout its entire life, and all info can be looked up for free with the Transport Authority.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.

So plates belong to and move with the person rather than with the car? Interesting, and not something I've heard about before. Here plates remain with the car throughout its entire life, and all info can be looked up for free with the Transport Authority.

Not only do they not go with the car, they don't go with the person. The only plates you can keep are personalized plates. Here in Washington, license plates change with each new registration. If you buy a new car? New plates. Sell someone your old car? New plates. Buy a used car? New plates. Old plates are just recycled and turned into new ones. I think the only time plates don't change is if you transfer ownership, rather than sell. Kind of an odd situation. My first car had the plates from the old owner, since I technically didn't 'buy' the car (as far as the government is concerned).

Not all states are like this. I think in California, plates stay with the car forever. Could be wrong, though, since I have seen old cars with newer plates. But in California, there are a bunch of old cars with old plates that aren't specialty "retro design" plates. The plate has just always been on the car.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on July 01, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 04:58:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 30, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
Only cops have the power to look up plates;

Is there no public registry in each state or on a federal level where you can look up plates to get non-identifying info about the vehicle? Like model, make, tax, number of previous owners, etc?

There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.

License plate numbers are public record in Kentucky. I used to work for a newspaper that was located across the street from the county courthouse. Like many small towns in Kentucky, parking was (and still is) at a premium. When people would park in our building's lot on court days, the boss would go over to the county clerk's office and have them run the license plate number of the offending cars. So it's definitely possible for members of the public to get that information, at least in my state, but I suppose some might be jerks about it and make you file an open records request in writing.

Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.

So plates belong to and move with the person rather than with the car? Interesting, and not something I've heard about before. Here plates remain with the car throughout its entire life, and all info can be looked up for free with the Transport Authority.

Again, this must vary by state, because in Kentucky, plates stay with the car when the car changes ownership -- unless, of course, it's a personalized plate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 01, 2018, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 01, 2018, 01:36:09 PM
Noticed this black "180 East" sign on Kings Canyon Road in far east Fresno directing bike traffic to the CA 180 freeway to continue east.  Before the freeway was built CA 180 would continue ahead in the photo, now the road ends at the freeway about about a quarter mile east of the light at Temperance Avenue.  The black sign looks like it was recycled from somewhere and is an odd color choice I think:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1765/41322384120_c4b44268d6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25Xw29C)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/25Xw29C) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

If I saw that sign, I'd think that it led to a road called "180 East". Many cities in Utah and Idaho use a grid system that produces names like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 01, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 04:58:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 30, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
Only cops have the power to look up plates;

Is there no public registry in each state or on a federal level where you can look up plates to get non-identifying info about the vehicle? Like model, make, tax, number of previous owners, etc?

There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.

License plate numbers are public record in Kentucky. I used to work for a newspaper that was located across the street from the county courthouse. Like many small towns in Kentucky, parking was (and still is) at a premium. When people would park in our building's lot on court days, the boss would go over to the county clerk's office and have them run the license plate number of the offending cars. So it's definitely possible for members of the public to get that information, at least in my state, but I suppose some might be jerks about it and make you file an open records request in writing.

In that case, it's okay. But the 1994 "Driver's Privacy Protection Act" prohibits willy-nilly research by regular peasants without authorization from the vehicle owner. You can get access but only if you have a reason to need it. I guess in your case, it was due to the vehicles being parked on private property illegally. What was your boss doing with the plate numbers?

Quote from: hbelkins on July 01, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.

So plates belong to and move with the person rather than with the car? Interesting, and not something I've heard about before. Here plates remain with the car throughout its entire life, and all info can be looked up for free with the Transport Authority.

Again, this must vary by state, because in Kentucky, plates stay with the car when the car changes ownership -- unless, of course, it's a personalized plate.

Yes, I said as much in the post you quoted: "plates change in some states quite often". I know it isn't every state that operates this way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 01, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 01, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 01, 2018, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM
There are, but not government provided, and not free. To get a full picture, you generally need access to a police database. VIN lookups are far more helpful since plates change in some states quite often. One car might have several plates between its first and last owner.
So plates belong to and move with the person rather than with the car? Interesting, and not something I've heard about before. Here plates remain with the car throughout its entire life, and all info can be looked up for free with the Transport Authority.
Again, this must vary by state, because in Kentucky, plates stay with the car when the car changes ownership -- unless, of course, it's a personalized plate.

It does, because in Iowa the plates stay with the person. The plates on my mom's car have been on three different vehicles so far.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 01, 2018, 06:22:31 PM
Newspapers in NJ seem to get the info with ease. I had to pay $15 to run my own info one time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 01, 2018, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 01, 2018, 06:22:31 PM
Newspapers in NJ seem to get the info with ease. I had to pay $15 to run my own info one time.

As a regular part of business, access is allowed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 01, 2018, 10:16:45 PM
Here's an odd sign assembly I saw in Newport DE about 2 months ago.  I was driving along DE-4 WB heading towards Newark and noticed it after passing under DE-141.

EDIT: Here it is up close on Street View: https://goo.gl/maps/pZKTKBRpQ1v

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HswGdpZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrpablue on July 01, 2018, 10:18:43 PM
Odd-sized shields on a messy assembly of BGSs, also courtesy of Sacramento. At least it has some button-copy.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1810/43091885622_5c79fe5393_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 02, 2018, 11:53:25 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/43153856021/in/dateposted-public/
Interesting inverted JUNCTION signs along GA Route 31 near Valdosta, GA.

Apparently these are not rare in the South Central part of the Peach State as well as the South-West part either as plenty of them do exist, but this is one sample of these neat signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on July 02, 2018, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 02, 2018, 11:53:25 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/43153856021/in/dateposted-public/
Interesting inverted JUNCTION signs along GA Route 31 near Valdosta, GA.

Apparently these are not rare in the South Central part of the Peach State as well as the South-West part either as plenty of them do exist, but this is one sample of these neat signs.

Wow, I didn't know Georgia was still installing these! I'm pretty sure the only ones I've seen in the Atlanta area date back to the 1980s if not earlier. There used to be one on old GA 3 in Lovejoy (turned back to Clayton County in the mid-80s) approaching US 19/41, but I'm sure it's gone now. Based on the particular route marker shape in the Valdosta example, though, that one must be from within the last ~15 years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 02, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
I thought white-on-black junction signs were still the standard? I seem to recall quite a few black-on-white or white-on-green examples, but I thought white-on-black was still permitted, or even the standard.

Sign salads are pretty rare in WA (most junction signs are guide signs), but there is a white-on-black JUNCTION unisign near Spanaway: https://goo.gl/rcL4DA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 02, 2018, 05:31:52 PM
Georgia has sine salad due to its many route designations and concurrencies.  Also the fact that all US routes have a signed GA route to add to the confusion (example would be GA 38 being with US 84 entirely).  As far as the white on black JUNCTION signs I have only seen them around Bainbridge, Thomasville, Albany, and Valdosta in my travels.  I had no idea that they were anything more as being standard throughout the state. 

Along the I-95 corridor you see the standard black JCT on small white cards, and I have not seen any of them there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 02, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/7377311884/in/photostream/
I think that this is interesting that NYSDOT added a mileage number just for one destination on a freeway guide sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 03, 2018, 04:33:57 PM
What do you guys think makes more sense? "LEFT AT ROUNDABOUT" or (because this is a T-intersection) "SECOND EXIT"?

I'm not sure which is the standard message for other states. WSDOT barely uses diagrammatical signs at roundabouts, opting for message-based signs like this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/12EzVoG.jpg)
(photo uploaded originally to WSDOT Flickr)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 03, 2018, 06:31:39 PM
I'm posting this one on I-84 here as "odd" only because it's located in Pennsylvania, is an advance sign for an exit in New York, and lists a New Jersey state highway.  I vaguely recall that we had a daily challenge that was looking for things like this.  Taken May 9, 2018.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20180509%2Fexit1.jpg&hash=639de97ed83834938601a2a4ad950897c5afa01c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 03, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
This has to be one of the most unique ways to sign a concurrency:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/42329551981_276e1d1c61_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27uw24K)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 03, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: Jim on July 03, 2018, 06:31:39 PM
I'm posting this one on I-84 here as "odd" only because it's located in Pennsylvania, is an advance sign for an exit in New York, and lists a New Jersey state highway.  I vaguely recall that we had a daily challenge that was looking for things like this.  Taken May 9, 2018.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20180509%2Fexit1.jpg&hash=639de97ed83834938601a2a4ad950897c5afa01c)
What's especially interesting there is that they include the black background on the NJ shield.  I know that PennDOT does the same thing for I-95 at the Betsy Ross Bridge. https://goo.gl/maps/oboA3JLwwk62

Quote from: US 89 on July 03, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
This has to be one of the most unique ways to sign a concurrency:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/42329551981_276e1d1c61_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27uw24K)
I know, after looking at Steve Alpert's website so much when I was younger, the MDC in Boston loved to do weird things like that: http://alpsroads.net/roads/ma/ma_3/3.html (last photo).

EDIT: Fixed typo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 04, 2018, 02:38:00 AM
Quote from: US 89 on July 03, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
This has to be one of the most unique ways to sign a concurrency:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/885/42329551981_276e1d1c61_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27uw24K)

I guess a wider sign was too much to ask for? :spin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 04, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 03, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
What's especially interesting there is that they include the black background on the NJ shield.  I know that PennDOT does the same thing for I-95 at the Betsy Ross Bridge. https://goo.gl/maps/oboA3JLwwk62

One of those rare instances where a neighboring state makes an honest effort to duplicate another state's preferences. I have to applaud the attention to detail.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cl94 on July 04, 2018, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 04, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 03, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
What's especially interesting there is that they include the black background on the NJ shield.  I know that PennDOT does the same thing for I-95 at the Betsy Ross Bridge. https://goo.gl/maps/oboA3JLwwk62

One of those rare instances where a neighboring state makes an honest effort to duplicate another state's preferences. I have to applaud the attention to detail.

The Northeast is generally pretty good about that. Other than the one set of MA 102 shields along NY 22 and a couple erroneous NY 120A shields in CT, bordering states/provinces out here tend to get signs of neighboring states correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 04, 2018, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: cl94 on July 04, 2018, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 04, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 03, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
What's especially interesting there is that they include the black background on the NJ shield.  I know that PennDOT does the same thing for I-95 at the Betsy Ross Bridge. https://goo.gl/maps/oboA3JLwwk62

One of those rare instances where a neighboring state makes an honest effort to duplicate another state's preferences. I have to applaud the attention to detail.

The Northeast is generally pretty good about that. Other than the one set of MA 102 shields along NY 22 and a couple erroneous NY 120A shields in CT, bordering states/provinces out here tend to get signs of neighboring states correct.

MA uses its own shield, not NH's shield, for NH routes. I've seen an incorrect "MA 107" on I-95 and an incorrect "MA 121A" on MA 125, and there are others.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on July 04, 2018, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 03, 2018, 04:33:57 PM
What do you guys think makes more sense? "LEFT AT ROUNDABOUT" or (because this is a T-intersection) "SECOND EXIT"?

I'm not sure which is the standard message for other states. WSDOT barely uses diagrammatical signs at roundabouts, opting for message-based signs like this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/12EzVoG.jpg)
(photo uploaded originally to WSDOT Flickr)

I think that is perfectly logical as-is. If I were from another state, I would interpret "second exit" as meaning a large interchange was coming up. In this particular case, drivers coming down the hill to Sharpe's Corner will see the layout of the roundabout in the distance, and see which way is left (overall). But the vast majority of traffic in this area are locals/ commuters. These folks likely drive through here daily and were very aware how this intersection was prior to construction and which directions Anacortes and Burlington are. Plus, many a commuter would also know that they could take Rosario Road from Deception Pass up the west side of Fidalgo Island the back way into Anacortes. I would argue that going that way is faster, especially if my destination was in the west and south portions of town.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: theline on July 04, 2018, 04:42:25 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 01, 2018, 10:16:45 PM
Here's an odd sign assembly I saw in Newport DE about 2 months ago.  I was driving along DE-4 WB heading towards Newark and noticed it after passing under DE-141.

EDIT: Here it is up close on Street View: https://goo.gl/maps/pZKTKBRpQ1v

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HswGdpZ.jpg)

That reminded me of this even worse installation in Findlay, OH. This is where US 224 and OH 12 split. Nary a proper shield in sight. I presume that the city of Findlay committed this atrocity, since I can't image OHDOT doing it.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F98ao74.png&hash=7126b7fff8bbd9576da00a7c0b9dbeea8fa4854f)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 04, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 04, 2018, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: cl94 on July 04, 2018, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 04, 2018, 09:00:54 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 03, 2018, 07:49:39 PM
What's especially interesting there is that they include the black background on the NJ shield.  I know that PennDOT does the same thing for I-95 at the Betsy Ross Bridge. https://goo.gl/maps/oboA3JLwwk62

One of those rare instances where a neighboring state makes an honest effort to duplicate another state's preferences. I have to applaud the attention to detail.

The Northeast is generally pretty good about that. Other than the one set of MA 102 shields along NY 22 and a couple erroneous NY 120A shields in CT, bordering states/provinces out here tend to get signs of neighboring states correct.

MA uses its own shield, not NH's shield, for NH routes. I've seen an incorrect "MA 107" on I-95 and an incorrect "MA 121A" on MA 125, and there are others.

Not too surprising since Mass can't seem to get their own shield right sometimes (https://goo.gl/maps/VkE6NHSQovy).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on July 04, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
For the record, WV uses CT's shield design.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.226695,-80.2978905,3a,36.8y,292.54h,85.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYd0VbqOGwhdopRyi-bX1aA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.226695,-80.2978905,3a,36.8y,292.54h,85.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYd0VbqOGwhdopRyi-bX1aA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on July 06, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
East of Lewiston, Idaho. This might be a contender for longest distance on a W16-4P (excluding, of course, Alaska).

(https://i.imgur.com/gImAgge.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on July 06, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 02, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/7377311884/in/photostream/
I think that this is interesting that NYSDOT added a mileage number just for one destination on a freeway guide sign.
The "Downtown 2" sign is for Watertown, not Sacketts Harbor, as one is in the city of Watertown on I-81 here at the interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 07, 2018, 06:17:12 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 06, 2018, 09:47:56 PM
East of Lewiston, Idaho. This might be a contender for longest distance on a W16-4P (excluding, of course, Alaska).

https://i.imgur.com/gImAgge.jpg

I really don't think that needs to be a posted warning.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 08, 2018, 02:48:06 AM
Is "AIRCRAFT CROSSING" a common warning sign?

https://goo.gl/ayy7Wg

Spanaway, WA. Tiny airport opposite a few homes with private plane storage, with a short traversing of an arterial required to access the landing strip.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on July 08, 2018, 08:17:50 AM
I've only seen one Aircraft Crossing sign, on US 12 near Lake Geneva, WI. There's a private runway that ends about 100 ft short of the northbound lanes (ahead and to the right in the photo).

(https://i.imgur.com/mqKlIG5.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 08, 2018, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 08, 2018, 02:48:06 AM
Is "AIRCRAFT CROSSING" a common warning sign?

https://goo.gl/ayy7Wg

Spanaway, WA. Tiny airport opposite a few homes with private plane storage, with a short traversing of an arterial required to access the landing strip.
There are a ton of planes coming from and to Dover AFB and I've never seen a sign like that.  And bear in mind that these guys are training sometimes!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 08, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
Here's a driveway that crosses a small airstrip a few miles away in Buckley.

Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/eZ6ehSpKrCm)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on July 08, 2018, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on July 06, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 02, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/7377311884/in/photostream/
I think that this is interesting that NYSDOT added a mileage number just for one destination on a freeway guide sign.
The "Downtown 2" sign is for Watertown, not Sacketts Harbor, as one is in the city of Watertown on I-81 here at the interchange.

That designation has perpetuated a couple of times with sign rehab projects. I think it first appeared in the late 1980s or early 1990s in all caps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 08, 2018, 08:21:18 PM
Along I-480 just west of I-71 in Cleveland, they have signs that say LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT...and 15-foot overhead light poles to boot!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on July 09, 2018, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 08, 2018, 02:48:06 AM
Is "AIRCRAFT CROSSING" a common warning sign?

https://goo.gl/ayy7Wg

Spanaway, WA. Tiny airport opposite a few homes with private plane storage, with a short traversing of an arterial required to access the landing strip.

Here's how Quebec approaches it, on R-132 near Mont-Joli airport:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.605827,-68.2216473,3a,15y,190.41h,89.55t,358.55r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCKTTyz6nxmt4ygvjgxZHog!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.605827,-68.2216473,3a,15y,190.41h,89.55t,358.55r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCKTTyz6nxmt4ygvjgxZHog!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on July 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
There used to be a aircraft crossing on N Harbor Dr between the San Diego airport and the Coast Guard base. Looking at Google Maps, it isn't clear to me whether it's still in use:
https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2)

But here's a YouTube video that shows it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: DRMan on July 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
There used to be a aircraft crossing on N Harbor Dr between the San Diego airport and the Coast Guard base. Looking at Google Maps, it isn't clear to me whether it's still in use:
https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2)

But here's a YouTube video that shows it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM)

Other than the Buckley example above, this appears to be the closest example, since it's an actual crossing (not just a low-flying aircraft situation).

The Spanaway example is still a bit strange since there's no signal, and the road is a rather major one. I guess, if you see a plane, yield the right of way? Do planes have the ROW at intersections between taxiways and roadways? :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 03:55:21 PM
One unique and one bad sign at a new roundabout near Anacortes, WA.

A rather blunt warning sign for pedestrians at this new RRFB...

(https://i.imgur.com/49RdUcz.jpg)

Sure, just cram in a greenout. That'll do...

(https://i.imgur.com/TcAmqjQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
There's something kind of offputting about this sign:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HtIuTLo.png)

This is the old one:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HtIxvg0.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 09, 2018, 06:25:54 PM
^^ the 175 is not vertically centered.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 09, 2018, 06:25:54 PM
^^ the 175 is not vertically centered.
Yeah but that's not it even.  I feel like it has to do with the I-476 shield.

Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.
I'm okay with that.  I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.

...

What exactly do you find not right about it? It seems fine to me.

Please don't respond with "I don't know". There has to be something. Shield too small? Text too big? Narrow it down, please.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.

...

What exactly do you find not right about it? It seems fine to me.

Please don't respond with "I don't know". There has to be something. Shield too small? Text too big? Narrow it down, please.
Sorry I'm not being specific, I was staring at it for a while to get what just didn't feel right.  The "476" feels like it's too small (I know in some states, like CT (http://alpsroads.net/roads/ct/ct_85/85.jpg) and MD (http://alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-83/s4.jpg), smaller fonts are shown on older shields - using Steve Alpert's photos) and the "Interstate" on the shield feels too wide.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.

...

What exactly do you find not right about it? It seems fine to me.

Please don't respond with "I don't know". There has to be something. Shield too small? Text too big? Narrow it down, please.

Sorry I'm not being specific, I was staring at it for a while to get what just didn't feel right.  The "476" feels like it's too small (I know in some states, like CT (http://alpsroads.net/roads/ct/ct_85/85.jpg) and MD (http://alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-83/s4.jpg), smaller fonts are shown on older shields - using Steve Alpert's photos) and the "Interstate" on the shield feels too wide.

I see; thanks.

The 3di shield is supposed to have a wider "INTERSTATE" than the 2di shield, but they often don't for whatever reason. The first sign actually has a design error in that the "interstate" text is too narrow.

I personally prefer the newer sign's shield, as it has more blue area around the route number. I hate when the route number is pushed to the borders of the shield, as it starts to blend in with the border, and makes the numbers less recognizable and/or readable from a distance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.

...

What exactly do you find not right about it? It seems fine to me.

Please don't respond with "I don't know". There has to be something. Shield too small? Text too big? Narrow it down, please.

Sorry I'm not being specific, I was staring at it for a while to get what just didn't feel right.  The "476" feels like it's too small (I know in some states, like CT (http://alpsroads.net/roads/ct/ct_85/85.jpg) and MD (http://alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-83/s4.jpg), smaller fonts are shown on older shields - using Steve Alpert's photos) and the "Interstate" on the shield feels too wide.

I see; thanks.

The 3di shield is supposed to have a wider "INTERSTATE" than the 2di shield, but they often don't for whatever reason. The first sign actually has a design error in that the "interstate" text is too narrow.

I personally prefer the newer sign's shield, as it has more blue area around the route number. I hate when the route number is pushed to the borders of the shield, as it starts to blend in with the border, and makes the numbers less recognizable and/or readable from a distance.
I understand why there is a wider "Interstate" on 3di shields, but it doesn't feel right seeing it like that.  Granted, I also really don't like wide fonts.  Maybe if it was written like "I N T E R S T A T E" I'd be a bit more comfortable (with slightly less dramatic spacing).

I agree that the numbers/text should have a margin around it, but at the same time that shield just seems to have too much blue space.  Part of it could be my desire to write "Pennsylvania" on the top part of the blue.  I wish state-name Interstate shields were still being made widely...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 09, 2018, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:13:32 PM
There's something kind of offputting about this sign:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HtIuTLo.png)

The control city text looks to be too large.  Either that, or the content at the top is too small or cramped.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.

...

What exactly do you find not right about it? It seems fine to me.

Please don't respond with "I don't know". There has to be something. Shield too small? Text too big? Narrow it down, please.

Sorry I'm not being specific, I was staring at it for a while to get what just didn't feel right.  The "476" feels like it's too small (I know in some states, like CT (http://alpsroads.net/roads/ct/ct_85/85.jpg) and MD (http://alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-83/s4.jpg), smaller fonts are shown on older shields - using Steve Alpert's photos) and the "Interstate" on the shield feels too wide.

I see; thanks.

The 3di shield is supposed to have a wider "INTERSTATE" than the 2di shield, but they often don't for whatever reason. The first sign actually has a design error in that the "interstate" text is too narrow.

I personally prefer the newer sign's shield, as it has more blue area around the route number. I hate when the route number is pushed to the borders of the shield, as it starts to blend in with the border, and makes the numbers less recognizable and/or readable from a distance.

I understand why there is a wider "Interstate" on 3di shields, but it doesn't feel right seeing it like that.  Granted, I also really don't like wide fonts.  Maybe if it was written like "I N T E R S T A T E" I'd be a bit more comfortable (with slightly less dramatic spacing).

I agree that the numbers/text should have a margin around it, but at the same time that shield just seems to have too much blue space.  Part of it could be my desire to write "Pennsylvania" on the top part of the blue.  I wish state-name Interstate shields were still being made widely...

Well, I don't know what to tell you. Your gripes lie with the MUTCD, since (as far as I'm concerned) that new 476 shield is perfect. Any bigger text, and it would be on the verge of bleeding into the border. The "6" in particular is already quite close to the border, and shifting the numbers to the left to lower them more would make the whole thing look funny. The numbers would have to be smaller to fit a state name in there.

I think the wider "interstate" text probably looks weird because so few agencies seem to do it properly, that we've been trained to believe that the narrow text is correct in all instances.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 09, 2018, 07:35:59 PM
I think the perceived problem might be that the all-caps letters are smaller than the lowercase letters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 08:56:54 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 07:12:43 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 09, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
I didn't mind the old sign, but the new one just doesn't seem right to me.

...

What exactly do you find not right about it? It seems fine to me.

Please don't respond with "I don't know". There has to be something. Shield too small? Text too big? Narrow it down, please.

Sorry I'm not being specific, I was staring at it for a while to get what just didn't feel right.  The "476" feels like it's too small (I know in some states, like CT (http://alpsroads.net/roads/ct/ct_85/85.jpg) and MD (http://alpsroads.net/roads/md/i-83/s4.jpg), smaller fonts are shown on older shields - using Steve Alpert's photos) and the "Interstate" on the shield feels too wide.

I see; thanks.

The 3di shield is supposed to have a wider "INTERSTATE" than the 2di shield, but they often don't for whatever reason. The first sign actually has a design error in that the "interstate" text is too narrow.

I personally prefer the newer sign's shield, as it has more blue area around the route number. I hate when the route number is pushed to the borders of the shield, as it starts to blend in with the border, and makes the numbers less recognizable and/or readable from a distance.

I understand why there is a wider "Interstate" on 3di shields, but it doesn't feel right seeing it like that.  Granted, I also really don't like wide fonts.  Maybe if it was written like "I N T E R S T A T E" I'd be a bit more comfortable (with slightly less dramatic spacing).

I agree that the numbers/text should have a margin around it, but at the same time that shield just seems to have too much blue space.  Part of it could be my desire to write "Pennsylvania" on the top part of the blue.  I wish state-name Interstate shields were still being made widely...

Well, I don't know what to tell you. Your gripes lie with the MUTCD, since (as far as I'm concerned) that new 476 shield is perfect. Any bigger text, and it would be on the verge of bleeding into the border. The "6" in particular is already quite close to the border, and shifting the numbers to the left to lower them more would make the whole thing look funny. The numbers would have to be smaller to fit a state name in there.

I think the wider "interstate" text probably looks weird because so few agencies seem to do it properly, that we've been trained to believe that the narrow text is correct in all instances.
Eh I guess.  I'm not saying that the numbers on the shield should be bigger in the sense of just increasing the point size.  I mean I'd prefer if they were taller (like in the old sign).

We can argue all day, I'm just saying that the sign feels off to me.  It may be perfect by MUTCD standards (though I agree with paulthemapguy that the control cities also look too big), but it doesn't jive with me.  That's all.  Of course, the average motorist barely would notice.

Now about the NJTP going to MUTCD....  :spin: https://goo.gl/maps/kCXdAV93rU12
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on July 09, 2018, 09:28:34 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 09, 2018, 07:27:34 PM
The control city text looks to be too large.  Either that, or the content at the top is too small or cramped.

Possibly both?

Zooming in on this sign in GMSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2838892,-75.7880857,3a,15y,46.82h,90.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOb6tSFkBEz6d2c74HiZFuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and taking some rough measurements, it looks like that I-476 shield is 36" tall and the destination text is in the neighborhood of 20"/15" UC/LC. That destination text size is Georgia's current standard, carried over from our days of using Series D, but if I'm not mistaken the MUTCD calls for smaller text (16"/12", I think?). Georgia spec would differ in that the Interstate shield would be 48" rather than 36", but I can't recall if that's in the federal MUTCD or not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on July 09, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/840/42394105115_e762584013_z_d.jpg)

The GPS lies, near Arlington, MO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 10, 2018, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2018, 10:07:34 PM

The GPS lies, near Arlington, MO

I wasn't even using a GPS, just a new paper atlas my sister had given me.  I was on a walk that turned out to be way longer than I thought, and I just wanted a shortcut to Gig Harbor so I could take a bus back to my car, and then I found this sign: Your GPS is wrong! (https://goo.gl/maps/jbasnEAqEZU2)  I wish I had taken a picture of it, but another resident was out in his yard looking at me.  When I got home, I checked the Pierce County property website and saw that public corridors did connect ahead.  They may not be paved as roads, but as a pedestrian I had a right to walk on them.  Instead I had to walk the long way around to finally get into town. :banghead:  Since then, they have properly done a street vacation to turn a bit of the street into private property.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on July 10, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Regarding the I-476 sign:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 10:23:24 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 10, 2018, 09:58:17 AM
I wish I had taken a picture of it, but another resident was out in his yard looking at me.

If I knew I were on public property I would've just taken it anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on July 10, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 10, 2018, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: US71 on July 09, 2018, 10:07:34 PM

The GPS lies, near Arlington, MO

I wasn't even using a GPS, just a new paper atlas my sister had given me.  I was on a walk that turned out to be way longer than I thought, and I just wanted a shortcut to Gig Harbor so I could take a bus back to my car, and then I found this sign: Your GPS is wrong! (https://goo.gl/maps/jbasnEAqEZU2)  I wish I had taken a picture of it, but another resident was out in his yard looking at me.  When I got home, I checked the Pierce County property website and saw that public corridors did connect ahead.  They may not be paved as roads, but as a pedestrian I had a right to walk on them.  Instead I had to walk the long way around to finally get into town. :banghead:  Since then, they have properly done a street vacation to turn a bit of the street into private property.

In Phelps County's instance, the bridge washed out about 10 years ago and was never replaced. Residents were eventually successful in having the road officially closed, but GPS still shows it as open.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 10, 2018, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.
Such is/was SOP with signage for the PA Turnpike... although there's usually a PA Turnpike shield placed next to the route shield per the below-example for the East/West (I-76) part of the Turnpike.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fpa%2Fi-76%2F283s.jpg&hash=1febe734e880f173db3f956f9387200d998916c1)
Photo from Alpsroads.net (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/pa/i-76/)

The likely reasoning why that BGS (the one for I-476) and its predecessor only having one shield was due to the earlier signage (w/button-copy lettering) featured just the PA Turnpike shield placed in the middle en lieu of a route shield.  The old BGS I'm referring to predated the Northeast Extension receiving a route number (PA 9 circa 1980, I-476 circa 1996).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?

Yes, I suppose it should be. Wouldn't be an eye-catching error to me, though. Just an old standard operating procedure in Pennsylvania (according to PHLBOS above me).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on July 10, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
New Hampshire's "A TOLL ROAD" verbiage always bothered me for some reason, probably because other states don't use it:

https://goo.gl/maps/dAcqhzuu9Q82
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 10, 2018, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: tckma on July 10, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
New Hampshire's "A TOLL ROAD" verbiage always bothered me for some reason, probably because other states don't use it:

https://goo.gl/maps/dAcqhzuu9Q82

Indefinite article on a traffic sign... ew.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 10, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 10, 2018, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: tckma on July 10, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
New Hampshire's "A TOLL ROAD" verbiage always bothered me for some reason, probably because other states don't use it:

https://goo.gl/maps/dAcqhzuu9Q82

Indefinite article on a traffic sign... ew.
I don't like that either.  Though it could be worse... http://alpsroads.net/roads/fl/osceola/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 10, 2018, 03:34:25 PM
Quote from: tckma on July 10, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
New Hampshire's "A TOLL ROAD"
... "by Henry Gibson"  :)

For those that may not get the above-reference.
(https://sadderbutwiser.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/henry-gibson.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 10, 2018, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 10, 2018, 03:23:53 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on July 10, 2018, 03:04:33 PM
Quote from: tckma on July 10, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
New Hampshire's "A TOLL ROAD" verbiage always bothered me for some reason, probably because other states don't use it:

https://goo.gl/maps/dAcqhzuu9Q82

Indefinite article on a traffic sign... ew.
I don't like that either.  Though it could be worse... http://alpsroads.net/roads/fl/osceola/

Osceola Parkway: A Toll Road (with one grade separation and some traffic lights).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 10, 2018, 09:13:31 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/29436167498/in/dateposted-public/ Missouri's historic sites guides on interstates are kind of interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 11, 2018, 01:18:05 AM
Button copy is interesting, but the real challenge is to find marble type in the wild.  This is the closest I've found: a marble abutment warning on a bridge north of Enumclaw, Washington.  GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/eDzCMBXcwPK2).  Of the four corners of the bridge, this panel is the best preserved.  The others are broken or painted over.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/919/42431495665_156a2b0a4c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27Dwvnt)Reflective marble warning panel, Veazie Cumberland Road, Enumclaw, Washington (https://flic.kr/p/27Dwvnt) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 11, 2018, 09:53:35 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 10, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?

Yes, I suppose it should be. Wouldn't be an eye-catching error to me, though. Just an old standard operating procedure in Pennsylvania (according to PHLBOS above me).

And by 2009 MUTCD standards, that "TOLL" wording is supposed to be a black on yellow placard (like the "LEFT" for left exits).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 11, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 11, 2018, 09:53:35 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 10, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?

Yes, I suppose it should be. Wouldn't be an eye-catching error to me, though. Just an old standard operating procedure in Pennsylvania (according to PHLBOS above me).

And by 2009 MUTCD standards, that "TOLL" wording is supposed to be a black on yellow placard (like the "LEFT" for left exits).

As long as we're being finicky :-D, I believe yellow would be used only if the road accepted license plate or physical payments. Otherwise, purple, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on July 11, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 11, 2018, 09:53:35 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 10, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?

Yes, I suppose it should be. Wouldn't be an eye-catching error to me, though. Just an old standard operating procedure in Pennsylvania (according to PHLBOS above me).

And by 2009 MUTCD standards, that "TOLL" wording is supposed to be a black on yellow placard (like the "LEFT" for left exits).

PennDOT (https://goo.gl/maps/Ws5QWPL4L9k) and the PTC (https://goo.gl/maps/x5og2mRjrgp) seem to be moving in that direction, but it seems old habits die hard. That sign's definitely new enough to be Highway Gothic again instead of Clearview, so it should have the yellow TOLL indicator and ideally the Turnpike shield as well.

EDIT: It's also not the primary exit sign. This is (https://goo.gl/maps/bj4Z6EzmXpq). The one pictured should have said something along the lines of "To TOLL I-476 / Clarks Summit, Allentown / Use Exit 175".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 11, 2018, 02:51:04 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on July 11, 2018, 01:26:08 PMThat sign's definitely new enough to be Highway Gothic again instead of Clearview.
It is and apparently using oversized text for the control cities is becoming the new SOP as far as post-Clearview Turnpike signage installs are concerned.  Not sure if such is intentional or determined by the awarded design engineer of record; but such has recently occurred elsewhere along the Turnpike.

The recently-installed eastbound (I-76) signage for the Harrisburg West (I-83) interchange uses larger-sized Highway Gothic Series E(M) than the roughly one-year old signs for the same interchange along I-76 westbound.  As a result, the eastbound BGS' are all larger than the westbound ones.

Sidebar: the newer post-Clearview exit westbound BGS (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2281145,-77.150778,3a,75y,272.87h,72.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKi9i19t1YAJaFzNVuaWsDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at the Carlisle (US 11 to I-81) interchange appears to use standard-size lettering.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 11, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 11, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 11, 2018, 09:53:35 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 10, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?

Yes, I suppose it should be. Wouldn't be an eye-catching error to me, though. Just an old standard operating procedure in Pennsylvania (according to PHLBOS above me).

And by 2009 MUTCD standards, that "TOLL" wording is supposed to be a black on yellow placard (like the "LEFT" for left exits).

As long as we're being finicky :-D, I believe yellow would be used only if the road accepted license plate or physical payments. Otherwise, purple, right?

My understanding is that TOLL is always in yellow. Purple is used only to denote specific directions relating to electronic toll tag (lane usage, etc).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 11, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 11, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 11, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 11, 2018, 09:53:35 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 10, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
Is it correct for the shield to separate a single statement [toll road]? Seems like the 476 shield should be to the left, with [toll road] to its right.

Shouldn't it just be "TOLL I-476" / "I-476 TOLL" anyway?

Yes, I suppose it should be. Wouldn't be an eye-catching error to me, though. Just an old standard operating procedure in Pennsylvania (according to PHLBOS above me).

And by 2009 MUTCD standards, that "TOLL" wording is supposed to be a black on yellow placard (like the "LEFT" for left exits).

As long as we're being finicky :-D, I believe yellow would be used only if the road accepted license plate or physical payments. Otherwise, purple, right?

My understanding is that TOLL is always in yellow. Purple is used only to denote specific directions relating to electronic toll tag (lane usage, etc).

I see. WSDOT uses yellow for all toll references, but only because none of the facilities require a toll tag (though it's the cheapest payment method).

Up in BC, total opposite. Virtually all (or, all) toll signs were purple (no more tolls with new government), even though all of the facilities permitted payment via non-decal methods. Obviously BC does not conform to standards of other countries, but they take quite a lot of cues from the US (alongside Transport Canada).

(https://i.imgur.com/KzHvzGj.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on July 11, 2018, 11:43:24 PM
The town-made welcome sign for Franklin, CT along CT Route 32, coming in from Norwich (near 32's junction with CT Route 2):

(https://i.imgur.com/SlCR3ox.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on July 15, 2018, 05:38:17 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: DRMan on July 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
There used to be a aircraft crossing on N Harbor Dr between the San Diego airport and the Coast Guard base. Looking at Google Maps, it isn't clear to me whether it's still in use:
https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2)

But here's a YouTube video that shows it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM)

Other than the Buckley example above, this appears to be the closest example, since it's an actual crossing (not just a low-flying aircraft situation).

The Spanaway example is still a bit strange since there's no signal, and the road is a rather major one. I guess, if you see a plane, yield the right of way? Do planes have the ROW at intersections between taxiways and roadways? :-D

The major Anchorage airport has a taxiway for (private) planes that crosses a couple major roads. The bigger one (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1797785,-149.9828489,3a,36.2y,354.18h,87.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVj1lAFF6HsvaoAyHCAEStQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) has "AIRCRAFT XING" approach signs and railroad-style gates and signs at the crossing. Interestingly, the smaller one (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1817039,-149.9807114,3a,43.3y,173.61h,92.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5Xk82Q_B3Zr2p2H-OTk-3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) is signed pretty much as if it was just a normal road intersection, with standard stop and stop ahead signage and what appears to be non-actuated beacons.

Then there are several more minor road-taxiway junctions: some pretend it's a normal intersection (complete with a street name sign for the taxiway!) (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1783361,-149.9722734,3a,78.3y,73.12h,82.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqcTAMeVKpLXUPgIK4UQf6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), some have "YIELD TO AIRCRAFT" diamond signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1789311,-149.9787372,3a,75y,75.89h,81.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scQkdkGUk3UfmbNH24OX_dw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), and there are also a few (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1801363,-149.9796902,3a,18.4y,99.68h,84.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swPIA5xMAI_1lTW8N22j5vg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) different square yellow signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.183789,-149.9797017,3a,34.6y,89.7h,83.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1secNB1SXdVhy4-hGTdSYKwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), plus some that don't have any signage!

On the other side of the little bay (used for seaplane operations), there's a remote runway, which requires another taxiway crossing of Lakeshore Dr. This one (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1879657,-149.9698553,3a,37.7y,116.13h,89.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXE12LwsD1RA-gx33x6O6Zg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) has stop/stop ahead signage with static beacons again, but this time it at least has aircraft crossing-related plaques. Beyond that, there's a section where the (fairly major) road is actually shared with airplanes (!), identified with "CAUTION - YIELD TO ALL AIRCRAFT" diamond signs with beacons (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1875558,-149.9683521,3a,75y,195.63h,76.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssBrqKBDKqdh5eJK018QocA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) and even a green "AIRCRAFT HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ON ROADS" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1801891,-149.9579567,3a,15.1y,340.02h,88.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJz5rKqwNt11cWc7o4oyvTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en). (As a side note, the shared-use roadways have required some humorously (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1807063,-149.9591804,3a,65.1y,46.79h,73.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxZ0_eb1QjfsPlY_0qF-kcA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), almost uselessly (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1845785,-149.9668102,3a,75y,181.43h,70.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK5xmNdqhMTOHDY0r5KmWdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en), close to the ground signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@61.1854242,-149.9680505,3a,75y,110.28h,75.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snS4Gl1c22Lyu78RE27cvYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en). Better keep that grass mowed!)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 15, 2018, 02:33:17 PM
^ Sounds like the situation Gibraltar International Airport, which is well and truly nuts.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 15, 2018, 03:57:44 PM
Holy shit, that's hilarious! I've never seen such good faith by an airport operator in the US.

Love that "AIRCRAFT CROSSING" cross-buck.

Quote from: formulanone on July 15, 2018, 02:33:17 PM
^ Sounds like the situation Gibraltar International Airport, which is well and truly nuts.

The only thing Gibraltar has over this would be much larger planes using the crossing. These crossings and signage around the Ted Stevens airport is unlike anything I've ever seen before. What kind of public road anywhere else is shared with airplanes?!? Maybe some unique situations in small isolated areas, but certainly none in a city as big as Anchorage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on July 18, 2018, 11:41:31 PM
Fruita, Colorado: An already-weird grid numbering system gone awry. The junction of "J 3/10 Road" and "J 2/10 Road."

(https://i.imgur.com/twYV918.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 19, 2018, 01:25:06 PM
Figured I'd post this here:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/847/41494139310_4c0466fd24_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26dGiZ1)

The 157 patch is there because that segment of road was renumbered from 244 a few years back. But the weird thing about it is that everything that should be black on that patch is green, even the numbers. I've never seen that before.

Also, did they really have to make the letters in "Business Loop" so narrow?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 19, 2018, 01:30:10 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 18, 2018, 11:41:31 PM
Fruita, Colorado: An already-weird grid numbering system gone awry. The junction of "J 3/10 Road" and "J 2/10 Road."

It gets weird where the county grid overlaps with the Grand Junction city grid. For example, 12th St is 27 Rd, 7th St is 26 1/2 Rd, and 1st St is 26 Rd, but 28th St is also 28 Rd. That caused some confusion when I was there a month ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on July 19, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
Here's the only cutout shield I've ever seen, a strange US 6 just before the Indiana state line on the Kingery Expressway eastbound (I-80/I-94/US 6). I believe it's a standard 36x36 just...cut out.

(https://i.imgur.com/PFb3SMf.jpg)

And a GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/d2tqJhnPXG62) link.

Edit: a closer look.

(https://i.imgur.com/3TALBVq.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 19, 2018, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: csw on July 19, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
Here's the only cutout shield I've ever seen, a strange US 6 just before the Indiana state line on the Kingery Expressway eastbound (I-80/I-94/US 6). I believe it's a standard 36x36 just...cut out.

(https://i.imgur.com/PFb3SMf.jpg)

And a GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/d2tqJhnPXG62) link.

Edit: a closer look.

(https://i.imgur.com/3TALBVq.jpg)
Looks like a shield meant for use on a BGS. I've seen other examples of that happening around the US, not entirely sure why...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 23, 2018, 05:09:33 PM
I've certainly seen route markers put on mast arms before (a Minnesota specialty), but I'm not so sure I've seen destinations put up there before. This is at the south end of MN-84 at MN-371 in Pine River.

(https://i.imgur.com/p74E4RA.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2018, 08:45:44 PM
Fail.

Found on Steger Road near Steger, IL

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/838/29705019178_d66321601b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MfVZi5)
20180720_104709 (https://flic.kr/p/MfVZi5) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 23, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2018, 08:45:44 PM
Fail.

Found on Steger Road near Steger, IL

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/838/29705019178_d66321601b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MfVZi5)
20180720_104709 (https://flic.kr/p/MfVZi5) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

What are you trying to point out: the misspelling, the letters peeling off, or the lack of a cemetery ahead?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 24, 2018, 01:59:34 AM
I think the misspelling is qualification enough. Definitely a "bad" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on July 24, 2018, 05:18:20 PM
Street blades in Fort Bend County, TX.  I feel the multiple colors are distracting to optimum legibility.

(https://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/width620/img/politics/photo/exchange-confederacy-signs-ddb19586f7fdaca4.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 24, 2018, 05:57:58 PM
Quote from: chays on July 24, 2018, 05:18:20 PM
Street blades in Fort Bend County, TX.  I feel the multiple colors are distracting to optimum legibility.

(https://image.nola.com/home/nola-media/width620/img/politics/photo/exchange-confederacy-signs-ddb19586f7fdaca4.jpg)

Yeah I really don't like these blades at all. It's just too much going on with them. Plus something inside me says that red is a no-no.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 24, 2018, 06:48:03 PM
Not too long ago the FHWA banned the use of background colors besides green, blue, brown, and white for use on street name signs, IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 24, 2018, 11:33:37 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/43563547702/in/dateposted-public/
I always find Missouri's overhead assemblies like these to be very cool!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 25, 2018, 05:38:31 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 24, 2018, 11:33:37 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/43563547702/in/dateposted-public/
I always find Missouri's overhead assemblies like these to be very cool!

I don't get what's so special about this one. It looks like a normal, plain old BGS setup to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:22:43 AM
It's typical, but it's tastefully done. It does fit into "the good" category.

Maybe we need a thread for "well-executed signs"–nothing special about them, just nice-looking signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 25, 2018, 10:51:40 AM
It is an example of what is possible when you have signs designed by a specialist unit with good quality assurance practices.  Most of MoDOT's large panel guide signs are designed by such a group in Jefferson City, invariably using SignCAD, and look very clean on the plan sheet.  The only real weakness in their work product is that they tend to include information (such as US route overlaps) that doesn't really need to be there, but always with impeccable space padding.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 12:59:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 24, 2018, 11:33:37 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/43563547702/in/dateposted-public/
I always find Missouri's overhead assemblies like these to be very cool!

In my opinion, only BGSs where all signs are the same height can qualify as "good". All others are simply fine. Can that sometimes result in a little extra green space on one or two signs? Yes, but my OCD will not allow me to like anything less, so...

I give that Missouri sign a "fine" rating. I don't see anything special about it. It's just a normal array of guide signs. However, one giant, glaring issue is the leftmost sign being mounted higher than the other two. That's almost a disqualifier for being "fine" (nearly bumping it to "okay").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 25, 2018, 03:32:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 12:59:20 PMI give that Missouri sign a "fine" rating. I don't see anything special about it. It's just a normal array of guide signs. However, one giant, glaring issue is the leftmost sign being mounted higher than the other two. That's almost a disqualifier for being "fine" (nearly bumping it to "okay").
Such is almost as if it's center-justified vertically with respect to the main panel of the middle sign while the sign on the right is bottom-justified.  IMHO, choose either one or the other in terms of vertical-justification not both.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 25, 2018, 03:32:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 12:59:20 PMI give that Missouri sign a "fine" rating. I don't see anything special about it. It's just a normal array of guide signs. However, one giant, glaring issue is the leftmost sign being mounted higher than the other two. That's almost a disqualifier for being "fine" (nearly bumping it to "okay").

Such is almost as if it's center-justified vertically with respect to the main panel of the middle sign while the sign on the right is bottom-justified.  IMHO, choose either one or the other in terms of vertical-justification not both.

My preference is definitely for bottom-justified, but certainly one or the other needs to be used.

This sign on southbound WA-167 has an alignment issue that has bothered me for years: https://goo.gl/V9uFyp. The signs are nearly the same height, but the one on the left is aligned above the one to its right. :-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 25, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 03:44:44 PMThis sign on southbound WA-167 has an alignment issue that has bothered me for years: https://goo.gl/V9uFyp. The signs are nearly the same height, but the one on the left is aligned above the one to its right. :-/
Look to be top-justified; the sign on the right is slightly taller than the one on the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 25, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 03:44:44 PM
This sign on southbound WA-167 has an alignment issue that has bothered me for years: https://goo.gl/V9uFyp. The signs are nearly the same height, but the one on the left is aligned above the one to its right. :-/

Look to be top-justified; the sign on the right is slightly taller than the one on the left.

On the approach, it looks to be purely out of alignment; it's only up close that they look to be top-justified. The sign on the right is definitely taller (by a couple inches at most). Nevertheless, I would have appreciated bottom-justified, as is the norm (https://goo.gl/YKXZeA) in Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 12:59:20 PM
In my opinion, only BGSs where all signs are the same height can qualify as "good".

BGS assemblies where all signs are the same height are incredibly silly.

Draw up a vanilla MUTCD gantry where the left panel is a 1-mile advance sign for an interstate with two control cities and the right panel is an exit direction sign for a local street. Figure out a way to make them both the same size without making it look stupid or like a college kid writing an essay with a page quota made it. (You can't.)

QuoteHowever, one giant, glaring issue is the leftmost sign being mounted higher than the other two. That's almost a disqualifier for being "fine" (nearly bumping it to "okay").

I think this is a case of practicality winning over aesthetics, since the panel in question is just barely bigger than the height of the gantry. That leads me to believe that it would have been awkward to mount the sign in justification with the other two. It probably would have required such a minute amount of z-bar as to not be worth the hassle of cutting it to size, so they decided to nudge it a few inches and figured nobody would notice or care.

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 25, 2018, 10:51:40 AM
The only real weakness in their work product is that they tend to include information (such as US route overlaps) that doesn't really need to be there, but always with impeccable space padding.

At least in the sign pictured, there's little reason to not include US-40, since the determining panel size factor is "Kansas City". If you ditched the shield, you'd just have more green space. (This is disregarding message-loading concerns, but I don't think throwing one shield in would really affect that much on that front. Now, in downtown Kansas City, it could cause problems.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on July 25, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
Here's a sign here in Huntsville with two vastly different arrow sizes on it:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/932/42924130074_9af1cf2677_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28p4oqb)Different Arrow Sizes (https://flic.kr/p/28p4oqb) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Draw up a vanilla MUTCD gantry where the left panel is a 1-mile advance sign for an interstate with two control cities and the right panel is an exit direction sign for a local street. Figure out a way to make them both the same size without making it look stupid

Challenge accepted. There's three ways to do this: (1) widen the left panel to avoid a tall sign, (2) use a single sign panel, or (3) use a modified APL.

(https://i.imgur.com/FiF99zN.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0fAWrNa.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Jcpk4Iu.png)

The top two signs are 108" tall. The third is 123" tall.

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
or like a college kid writing an essay with a page quota made it. (You can't.)

You mean "being crafty"? Infrastructure is an art. Some see the importance in particular things more than others (sign heights for me), but that doesn't totally negate the importance of these things.

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 12:59:20 PM
However, one giant, glaring issue is the leftmost sign being mounted higher than the other two. That's almost a disqualifier for being "fine" (nearly bumping it to "okay").

I think this is a case of practicality winning over aesthetics, since the panel in question is just barely bigger than the height of the gantry. That leads me to believe that it would have been awkward to mount the sign in justification with the other two. It probably would have required such a minute amount of z-bar as to not be worth the hassle of cutting it to size, so they decided to nudge it a few inches and figured nobody would notice or care.

Wow. I'm really impressed by their laziness.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on July 25, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Draw up a vanilla MUTCD gantry where the left panel is a 1-mile advance sign for an interstate with two control cities and the right panel is an exit direction sign for a local street. Figure out a way to make them both the same size without making it look stupid

Challenge accepted. There's three ways to do this: (1) widen the left panel to avoid a tall sign, (2) use a single sign panel, or (3) use a modified APL.

https://i.imgur.com/FiF99zN.png
https://i.imgur.com/0fAWrNa.png
https://i.imgur.com/Jcpk4Iu.png

GDOT could use your services.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2Fi285w_exit28.jpg&hash=1c8f1e446335e242b5001f680a0678d6f8e1a118)

And no, the new signs aren't necessarily any better:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2Fi285e_exit26.jpg&hash=f2f8d7a95a2d3561ee14c3208ffb8bbe7d53bb37)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 26, 2018, 12:10:35 AM
Quote from: Eth on July 25, 2018, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 07:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Draw up a vanilla MUTCD gantry where the left panel is a 1-mile advance sign for an interstate with two control cities and the right panel is an exit direction sign for a local street. Figure out a way to make them both the same size without making it look stupid

Challenge accepted. There's three ways to do this: (1) widen the left panel to avoid a tall sign, (2) use a single sign panel, or (3) use a modified APL.

https://i.imgur.com/FiF99zN.png
https://i.imgur.com/0fAWrNa.png
https://i.imgur.com/Jcpk4Iu.png

GDOT could use your services.

http://ten93.com/roadphotos/i285w_exit28.jpg

And no, the new signs aren't necessarily any better:

http://ten93.com/roadphotos/i285e_exit26.jpg

Top gantry could be fixed as so, from left to right:

1) align 285 West vertically instead of horizontally
2) center sign cannot be reconfigured due to lane width restrictions
3) Peachtree-Dunwoody Road should be spelled out completely (not using "Rd"), across three lines, with an arrow below the lines of text. This would allow the sign to be narrower

Bottom gantry could fixed as so, from left to right:

1) move the 19 & 400 shields to the left of the destinations, to reduce the sign height by about half
2) sign on right should now be appropriately.

I'm basically taking a page out of Caltrans with my designs, since they have to work with [self imposed] sign height requirements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 26, 2018, 01:41:03 AM
Just keep giving me more reasons to find an excuse to hit the Atlantic City Expressway, New Jersey:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5502987,-74.7371541,3a,75y,310.4h,99.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKJKSnKSTs8K9e9CJSAT30w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

:D :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 26, 2018, 05:05:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 07:33:52 PM
Wow. I'm really impressed by their laziness.

Every hour spent cutting z-bar costs the State of Missouri money. That's spending money on labor and materials that can't go to the Bella Vista Bypass, and for what, to get a panel a few inches into alignment on a sign most people will be enthusiastically not looking at as they go under it at 70+ MPH? Not worth the hassle.

If you own a house you start to develop an appreciation for this kind of economizing. Do I really want to make sure this shelf is mathematically dead center on the wall and thus have to drill toggle bolts into the sheetrock, or am I cool with it being six inches off center so I can mount it to the wall studs and have it be more secure without the toggle bolts? That kind of thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on July 26, 2018, 06:34:56 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 25, 2018, 12:59:20 PM
In my opinion, only BGSs where all signs are the same height can qualify as "good".

BGS assemblies where all signs are the same height are incredibly silly.

Draw up a vanilla MUTCD gantry where the left panel is a 1-mile advance sign for an interstate with two control cities and the right panel is an exit direction sign for a local street. Figure out a way to make them both the same size without making it look stupid or like a college kid writing an essay with a page quota made it. (You can't.)

As jakeroot said, challenge accepted!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markyville.com%2Faaroads%2FsameHeight-BGS.png&hash=0a4e3f3017ce1cfc2aa0c6baffe16bf3f7eca6fe)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 26, 2018, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PMI think this is a case of practicality winning over aesthetics, since the panel in question is just barely bigger than the height of the gantry. That leads me to believe that it would have been awkward to mount the sign in justification with the other two. It probably would have required such a minute amount of z-bar as to not be worth the hassle of cutting it to size, so they decided to nudge it a few inches and figured nobody would notice or care.

I don't see how there would have to be a difference in materials cost.  To me it looks like they didn't want to lower the crane the few inches or so it would have taken to place the mounting clips so that the pull-through is bottom-justified with the other two signs.

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 25, 2018, 10:51:40 AMThe only real weakness in their work product is that they tend to include information (such as US route overlaps) that doesn't really need to be there, but always with impeccable space padding.

At least in the sign pictured, there's little reason to not include US-40, since the determining panel size factor is "Kansas City". If you ditched the shield, you'd just have more green space. (This is disregarding message-loading concerns, but I don't think throwing one shield in would really affect that much on that front. Now, in downtown Kansas City, it could cause problems.)

In Kansas, the US 40 shield would have been left out regardless of space because it is the less important route and does not change direction at this interchange, and not signing minor routes in empty rural areas avoids creating an expectation of continuity in route signing that may be difficult to support in dense urban areas.  This is the real weakness of signing on the Missouri side in the Kansas City metro area--because all minor routes are signed, the signs are noticeably busier even though they are impeccably formatted.

Because this is a cloverleaf interchange at which US 65 is not a freeway, it falls under the cloverleaf signing section in MUTCD Chapter 2E, for which the accompanying figure shows no pull-through signs.  MoDOT could therefore eliminate the Kansas City sign without providing less signing than is shown in the MUTCD.  I would contend that even if US 65 were a freeway and thus covered by the system interchange section, the pull-through could still be omitted, but this would entail providing less signing than in the typical figure and so would be harder to justify.

In the late-nineties cult classic Ronin, Robert De Niro's character insults another by saying, "You're great in the locker room, pal, and your reflexes might die hard, but you're weak when you put your spikes on."  So it is with MoDOT signing, which looks great on the plan sheet but is weak in the field.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 26, 2018, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 26, 2018, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 25, 2018, 06:14:08 PMI think this is a case of practicality winning over aesthetics, since the panel in question is just barely bigger than the height of the gantry. That leads me to believe that it would have been awkward to mount the sign in justification with the other two. It probably would have required such a minute amount of z-bar as to not be worth the hassle of cutting it to size, so they decided to nudge it a few inches and figured nobody would notice or care.

Site detail plans are extremely specific.  Brackets - and the holes for the bolts - are also in those detailed plans and are very specific.  This isn't something that's decided on at the whim of some guy operating heavy machinery.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 26, 2018, 02:21:43 PM
If we're talking about overheads with same height signs, let's not forget about the I-95/I-676 interchange in Philadelphia...

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HwhlqF7.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on July 27, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 26, 2018, 02:21:43 PM
If we're talking about overheads with same height signs, let's not forget about the I-95/I-676 interchange in Philadelphia...

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HwhlqF7.png)
Given the recent placing of New York over the Trenton legends on I-95 northbound signage (in anticipation of its connection to the PA Turnpike opening later next month); this would've been a candidate IMHO to replace that sign with a new one at the same height with two-line Trenton/New York combo.  The top border would then be at the top edge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on July 27, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
Regarding the practice of making all BGSes on a gantry the same height, regardless of legend, this is usually based on a common misconception I've heard over the years that doing so will make your structural design simpler.  Actually, the opposite is true.  By increasing the size of your panels, you are also increasing loading, which always requires a more complex gantry.  Bothe the larger panels and the more complex gantries = more $$$$$$$$.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 27, 2018, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: roadman on July 27, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
Regarding the practice of making all BGSes on a gantry the same height, regardless of legend, this is usually based on a common misconception I've heard over the years that doing so will make your structural design simpler.  Actually, the opposite is true.  By increasing the size of your panels, you are also increasing loading, which always requires a more complex gantry.  Bothe the larger panels and the more complex gantries = more $$$$$$$$.


On a similar note, I remember someone saying that they thought all traffic lights and their masts came in a kit, and that they were all the same size and length.  Even though this is so obviously wrong it's laughable, that's how little people actually look at things and understand the engineering that takes place to design something. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on July 27, 2018, 04:02:44 PM
Saw this from a thread on Arkansas highways.  Highway 980 is the designation for all state-maintained airport roads.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Highway_980%2C_Siloam_Springs%2C_Arkansas.jpg/797px-Highway_980%2C_Siloam_Springs%2C_Arkansas.jpg)

From Wikimedia contributor Brandonrush
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 28, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
I was tempted to put this in the "Worst of" thread.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180729/6ecd331cc7b575bc2476a4a259b58aff.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 30, 2018, 11:27:49 PM
Button-type sign on Beardsly Blvd, Bothell, Washington.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1814/43753406121_7dce2eb79c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29EkDi4)Button type at Beardsly Blvd, Bothell, WA (https://flic.kr/p/29EkDi4) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 30, 2018, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 30, 2018, 11:27:49 PM
Button-type sign on [Beardslee] Blvd, Bothell, Washington.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1814/43753406121_7dce2eb79c_z.jpg

Took me a while to find that sign (I don't drive in that area much at all). It's placed well after the intersection for the right turn onto 405 southbound (which moron decided that?!?). Beautiful sign, though! At least by our standards. Lack of a button copy shield might knock it down a few notches by national standards.

Similarly-specced sign in Tacoma for the southbound 5 entrance from Portland Ave: https://goo.gl/akNzbK (still standing, despite the construction).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 31, 2018, 12:18:33 AM
Is it common for lane-use signs to do double-duty as both regulatory and commercial vehicle route signs? https://goo.gl/EyTZnN

I've seen lane-use signs for truck routes before, but only on the right, and in place of the standard route marker arrows (must have been accidental): https://goo.gl/8PKuPJ

(https://i.imgur.com/Wc4rpPq.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 31, 2018, 07:59:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 31, 2018, 12:18:33 AM
Is it common for lane-use signs to do double-duty as both regulatory and commercial vehicle route signs? https://goo.gl/EyTZnN

I've seen lane-use signs for truck routes before, but only on the right, and in place of the standard route marker arrows (must have been accidental): https://goo.gl/8PKuPJ

(https://i.imgur.com/Wc4rpPq.png)
This is the first time I've seen it (I've lived in the northeast/mid-Atlantic my whole life).  Maybe they're trying to get turning trucks out of the option lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 31, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 31, 2018, 07:59:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 31, 2018, 12:18:33 AM
Is it common for lane-use signs to do double-duty as both regulatory and commercial vehicle route signs? https://goo.gl/EyTZnN

I've seen lane-use signs for truck routes before, but only on the right, and in place of the standard route marker arrows (must have been accidental): https://goo.gl/8PKuPJ

(https://i.imgur.com/Wc4rpPq.png)
This is the first time I've seen it (I've lived in the northeast/mid-Atlantic my whole life).  Maybe they're trying to get turning trucks out of the option lane.

I'm actually thinking it's a mistake as there isn't any logic in having trucks use the leftmost turn lane in a situation like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 31, 2018, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: plain on July 31, 2018, 01:09:09 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 31, 2018, 07:59:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 31, 2018, 12:18:33 AM
Is it common for lane-use signs to do double-duty as both regulatory and commercial vehicle route signs? https://goo.gl/EyTZnN

I've seen lane-use signs for truck routes before, but only on the right, and in place of the standard route marker arrows (must have been accidental): https://goo.gl/8PKuPJ

https://i.imgur.com/Wc4rpPq.png
This is the first time I've seen it (I've lived in the northeast/mid-Atlantic my whole life).  Maybe they're trying to get turning trucks out of the option lane.
I'm actually thinking it's a mistake as there isn't any logic in having trucks use the leftmost turn lane in a situation like this.

Yeah, if trucks actually used that lane, they'd risk getting trapped (though the stop line is set back on Elliott to accommodate for larger vehicles). Definitely a misleading sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 04:19:14 AM
Cranbrook, BC: https://goo.gl/FC1XDe

Not sure what the hell else a green arrow would mean, besides "go".

Weirdly, the protected left turn here (in keeping with BC trends at pro/per lefts) is actually a flashing green arrow. Odd that they wouldn't mention that.

(https://i.imgur.com/FwmkGBd.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 04:19:14 AM
Cranbrook, BC: https://goo.gl/FC1XDe

Not sure what the hell else a green arrow would mean, besides "go".

Weirdly, the protected left turn here (in keeping with BC trends at pro/per lefts) is actually a flashing green arrow. Odd that they wouldn't mention that.

(https://i.imgur.com/FwmkGBd.png)
Why would a flashing green serve any purpose?  Other than maybe to get a driver's attention?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
Why would a flashing green serve any purpose?  Other than maybe to get a driver's attention?

It's Canada. I swear some of the traffic control stuff they do is just to be different from the United States.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 01, 2018, 12:11:50 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/43069361334/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/29915427158/

Though a typical contractor error, its odd to see the way both I-470 and MO Hwy. 291 are both signed on both the 1 and 2 mile guides on I-70 in Independence, MO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
Why would a flashing green serve any purpose?  Other than maybe to get a driver's attention?
It's Canada. I swear some of the traffic control stuff they do is just to be different from the United States.

No, it has a purpose. The flashing green arrow distinguishes the green arrow from the yellow arrow for colorblind drivers (Canada mostly uses 4-section PPLT signals these days, and it's all I've ever seen in BC).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on August 01, 2018, 01:42:22 PM
Passed this in Fawnskin, CA, on my recent trip.  Never seen a shape like this

(https://i.imgur.com/t6tu19K.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
Why would a flashing green serve any purpose?  Other than maybe to get a driver's attention?
It's Canada. I swear some of the traffic control stuff they do is just to be different from the United States.
No, it has a purpose. The flashing green arrow distinguishes the green arrow from the yellow arrow for colorblind drivers (Canada mostly uses 4-section PPLT signals these days, and it's all I've ever seen in BC).

'Twas a joke. ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
Why would a flashing green serve any purpose?  Other than maybe to get a driver's attention?
It's Canada. I swear some of the traffic control stuff they do is just to be different from the United States.
No, it has a purpose. The flashing green arrow distinguishes the green arrow from the yellow arrow for colorblind drivers (Canada mostly uses 4-section PPLT signals these days, and it's all I've ever seen in BC).
'Twas a joke. ;-)

That's fine, but you were responding to a serious question. Perhaps unfair to ipeters61, who was probably looking for a straight answer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 01, 2018, 07:35:38 PM
Quote from: chays on August 01, 2018, 01:42:22 PM
Passed this in Fawnskin, CA, on my recent trip.  Never seen a shape like this

(https://i.imgur.com/t6tu19K.jpg)

Frankly, wouldn't a double-ess-curve sign do the same thing? I suppose a 180-degree hairpin curve sign followed by another in the other direction would do the trick.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:45:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 11:12:45 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:28:33 AM
Why would a flashing green serve any purpose?  Other than maybe to get a driver's attention?
It's Canada. I swear some of the traffic control stuff they do is just to be different from the United States.
No, it has a purpose. The flashing green arrow distinguishes the green arrow from the yellow arrow for colorblind drivers (Canada mostly uses 4-section PPLT signals these days, and it's all I've ever seen in BC).
'Twas a joke. ;-)

That's fine, but you were responding to a serious question. Perhaps unfair to ipeters61, who was probably looking for a straight answer.
It's alright.  But thanks for clarifying it.  Also didn't realize that there was a fourth light on that signal, so it makes sense.

That reminds me, are there any four section signals in the US with a combined green/yellow signal lamp?  I've never seen such a thing. 

Speaking of, the intersection immediately outside of my apartment does use a protected left arrow for US-13 northbound traffic but blinks with a red arrow after a while (basically the same principle as a five section signal but you have to stop instead of yield before turning left).  I don't mind it but I do get thrown off by the fact that it goes green arrow (US-13 north green) -> yellow arrow (US-13 north green) -> red arrow (after this, all US-13 traffic gets green) -> blinking red arrow (US-13 through still green, wait for it...) -> yellow arrow (US-13 through yellow) -> red arrow (US-13 through red).

I just don't like that it goes blinking red -> yellow -> red.  I don't anticipate to look down when I'm trying to go...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 01, 2018, 10:51:01 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 01, 2018, 09:45:13 PM
That reminds me, are there any four section signals in the US with a combined green/yellow signal lamp?  I've never seen such a thing. 

For left-turn arrows, absolutely. Des Moines still uses quite a few combined green/yellow arrows in place of doghouses or five-section towers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 01, 2018, 11:47:00 PM
^^ To continue, that is not allowed in the MUTCD.

2009 MUTCD Section 4D.06

05 Each circular signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green.

06 Each arrow signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green except that the alternate display (dual-arrow signal section) of a GREEN ARROW and a YELLOW ARROW signal indication, both pointing in the same direction, shall be permitted, provided that they are not displayed simultaneously.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on August 02, 2018, 01:42:31 AM
Quote from: Big John on August 01, 2018, 11:47:00 PM
^^ To continue, that is not allowed in the MUTCD.

2009 MUTCD Section 4D.06

05 Each circular signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green.

06 Each arrow signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green except that the alternate display (dual-arrow signal section) of a GREEN ARROW and a YELLOW ARROW signal indication, both pointing in the same direction, shall be permitted, provided that they are not displayed simultaneously.
You might want to reread what I just bolded in your post, unless you were talking about the ball indications.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 02, 2018, 08:53:25 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 02, 2018, 01:42:31 AM
Quote from: Big John on August 01, 2018, 11:47:00 PM
^^ To continue, that is not allowed in the MUTCD.

2009 MUTCD Section 4D.06

05 Each circular signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green.

06 Each arrow signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green except that the alternate display (dual-arrow signal section) of a GREEN ARROW and a YELLOW ARROW signal indication, both pointing in the same direction, shall be permitted, provided that they are not displayed simultaneously.
You might want to reread what I just bolded in your post, unless you were talking about the ball indications.

Delaware MUTCD prohibits it: http://regulations.delaware.gov/register/may2018/final/MUTCDPart4HighwayTrafficSignals.pdf (page 30)

The following combinations of signal indications shall not be simultaneously displayed on any one signal face or as a result of the combination of displays from multiple signal faces on an approach:
A.   CIRCULAR GREEN with CIRCULAR YELLOW;
B.   Straight-through GREEN ARROW with CIRCULAR YELLOW;
C.   GREEN ARROW with YELLOW ARROW pointing in the same direction;
D.   RED ARROW with YELLOW ARROW pointing in the same di
rection; or
E.   GREEN ARROW with RED ARROW pointing in the same direction

2009 Federal MUTCD has the same (page 455):


The following combinations of signal indications shall not be simultaneously displayed on any one signal face or as a result of the combination of displays from multiple signal faces on an approach:
   A.     CIRCULAR GREEN with CIRCULAR YELLOW;
   B.     Straight-through GREEN ARROW with CIRCULAR YELLOW;
   C.     GREEN ARROW with YELLOW ARROW pointing in the same direction;
   D.     RED ARROW with YELLOW ARROW pointing in the same direction; or
   E.     GREEN ARROW with RED ARROW pointing in the same direction

Granted, it was said that "Des Moines still uses quite a few..." which implies that these are older signals, possibly predating MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 02, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: plain on July 28, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
I was tempted to put this in the "Worst of" thread.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180729/6ecd331cc7b575bc2476a4a259b58aff.jpg)

SM-S820L


They're better off putting the 2's over the US BUS 17's. Yes, I know US 17 Business is the priority road, but since VA 2 isn't a business route, the 2's should be on top.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on August 02, 2018, 12:20:12 PM
Missed this a few weeks ago, but the Government of the Northwest Territories has installed a new sign at the end of the new Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway, the only one of these on the interconnected North American road network:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dguu8O7VMAAPxEb.jpg)

https://twitter.com/GNWT_INF/status/1012094916690731008
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 02, 2018, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 02, 2018, 08:53:25 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 02, 2018, 01:42:31 AM
Quote from: Big John on August 01, 2018, 11:47:00 PM
^^ To continue, that is not allowed in the MUTCD.

2009 MUTCD Section 4D.06

05 Each circular signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green.

06 Each arrow signal indication shall emit a single color: red, yellow, or green except that the alternate display (dual-arrow signal section) of a GREEN ARROW and a YELLOW ARROW signal indication, both pointing in the same direction, shall be permitted, provided that they are not displayed simultaneously.
You might want to reread what I just bolded in your post, unless you were talking about the ball indications.

Delaware MUTCD prohibits it: http://regulations.delaware.gov/register/may2018/final/MUTCDPart4HighwayTrafficSignals.pdf (page 30)

The following combinations of signal indications shall not be simultaneously displayed on any one signal face or as a result of the combination of displays from multiple signal faces on an approach...

You're missing a key word: "simultaneously". Green and yellow arrows may occupy the same position, but may not be displayed at the same time. This section of the manual is simply saying, "don't display both green and yellow arrows at the same time".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on August 02, 2018, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on August 02, 2018, 12:20:12 PM
Missed this a few weeks ago, but the Government of the Northwest Territories has installed a new sign at the end of the new Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk Highway, the only one of these on the interconnected North American road network:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dguu8O7VMAAPxEb.jpg)

https://twitter.com/GNWT_INF/status/1012094916690731008

I love stuff like this. Just imagine a scenario where some poor schmuck is lost in the Arctic, hopelessly searching for a Denny's, and stumbles across this sign...

"Shit."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 02, 2018, 09:59:21 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 02, 2018, 10:07:12 AM

They're better off putting the 2's over the US BUS 17's. Yes, I know US 17 Business is the priority road, but since VA 2 isn't a business route, the 2's should be on top.



The previous iteration looked like this:  https://goo.gl/maps/TmRMiyqQTWU2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 02, 2018, 11:52:52 PM
I just hope it doesn't get into crocheting.

(https://i.imgur.com/pyr8AxG.jpg)

On SB MN-84 south of Longville.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 03, 2018, 12:52:45 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 02, 2018, 09:59:21 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 02, 2018, 10:07:12 AM

They're better off putting the 2's over the US BUS 17's. Yes, I know US 17 Business is the priority road, but since VA 2 isn't a business route, the 2's should be on top.



The previous iteration looked like this:  https://goo.gl/maps/TmRMiyqQTWU2

That older arrangement looked so much better. The new one clashes, both with the arrows (could've at least had one route on the outside of the assembly and the other inside) and the shield sizes. And what font is VA 2?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 12:52:45 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 02, 2018, 09:59:21 PM
The previous iteration looked like this:  https://goo.gl/maps/TmRMiyqQTWU2

That older arrangement looked so much better.
It does. And the one thing I noticed is that Google Street View blurs out the cardinal directional signs, which they shouldn't do. This is part of the reason I think the VA 2 shields should be on top so nobody incorrectly assumes VA 2 is also a business route. Yes, they both go north and south here, but only US 17 is the business route.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 03, 2018, 08:35:38 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2018, 08:18:38 AM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 12:52:45 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 02, 2018, 09:59:21 PM
The previous iteration looked like this:  https://goo.gl/maps/TmRMiyqQTWU2

That older arrangement looked so much better.
It does. And the one thing I noticed is that Google Street View blurs out the cardinal directional signs, which they shouldn't do. This is part of the reason I think the VA 2 shields should be on top so nobody incorrectly assumes VA 2 is also a business route. Yes, they both go north and south here, but only US 17 is the business route.
If you switch to the right lane and go back in time you can see the cardinal direction sign: https://goo.gl/maps/vA6mWUJCFNA2.

Since VA-2 gets its own assembly, separate from US-17 Business, I think the confusion would be minimal still, though I do agree that VA-2 should be on top.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 07:25:04 PM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.

This one is a recent installation.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4767/39860352571_029220f434_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23JjJ78)2017 Delaware trip Day 1 - 007 (https://flic.kr/p/23JjJ78) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 03, 2018, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 07:25:04 PM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.

This one is a recent installation.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4767/39860352571_029220f434_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23JjJ78)2017 Delaware trip Day 1 - 007 (https://flic.kr/p/23JjJ78) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Nice!! Though I wish the "NORTH" was blue, I'm more than willing to let that slide
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 03, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.

Traditionally this has been a district-specific endeavor.  Districts 7 and 8 have been steadily adding them while district 4 (Richmond area) had a bunch since the 1980s but replacements in recent years there have not been unisign.  HB's photo shows District 1 (I don't get over there much) might be on the unisign train.  District 6 (Fredericksburg area) does not have many outside the City of Fredericksburg itself and the few new signs the city has put up lately are not unisign. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 03, 2018, 11:21:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 03, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.

Traditionally this has been a district-specific endeavor.  Districts 7 and 8 have been steadily adding them while district 4 (Richmond area) had a bunch since the 1980s but replacements in recent years there have not been unisign.  HB's photo shows District 1 (I don't get over there much) might be on the unisign train.  District 6 (Fredericksburg area) does not have many outside the City of Fredericksburg itself and the few new signs the city has put up lately are not unisign.

The Richmond district seems to be installing some of the newer unisigns again as well, at least in one locality (Hanover County). Here's some at the intersection of Ashland/Ashcake Rds (same roadway, different SR's), Greenwood Church Rd, and Blanton Rd. Enter Street View and move around to see all of them.

https://goo.gl/maps/8ScweezpGUn

EDIT: also here's a newer one but looks like the older ones. This is on the ramp from I-64 WB to VA 249 (Exit 205) in New Kent County

https://goo.gl/maps/UJ731NKAuRG2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 04, 2018, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 03, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.

Traditionally this has been a district-specific endeavor.  Districts 7 and 8 have been steadily adding them while district 4 (Richmond area) had a bunch since the 1980s but replacements in recent years there have not been unisign.  HB's photo shows District 1 (I don't get over there much) might be on the unisign train.  District 6 (Fredericksburg area) does not have many outside the City of Fredericksburg itself and the few new signs the city has put up lately are not unisign.

They are indeed rare in southwestern Virginia -- I've seen a couple in the City of Norton -- and that's the reason I took this picture. I saw a couple more in the Abingdon area when I was there back in December.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on August 05, 2018, 03:30:41 AM
I saw this ugly curve/intersection warning sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3913875,-122.2492355,3a,15y,213.82h,88.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QJ-rl_hZmkfdusbWdFSCQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) in Kent (a southern suburb of Seattle) last week. Something seems really off about it -- probably some combination of the weird line weights, the fact that the road that the sign is on comes in at an angle instead of straight from the bottom, and the lack of an arrowhead for the through road. Interestingly, this is actually on a state route, but I'm almost certain it's a city install.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: OracleUsr on August 05, 2018, 08:25:02 AM
It looks like a cartoon duck with its mouth open
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 05, 2018, 08:59:21 AM
I shot this photo at least a dozen years ago in Galena, OH.  The diagram is supposed to depict three upcoming T-intersections but there's not quite enough room for that.  On first sight, I couldn't understand what a large "E" was supposed to signify.

(https://i.imgur.com/lcMacLy.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 05, 2018, 02:34:35 PM
E!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 05, 2018, 08:40:33 PM
Do these roads all face eastbound?  :-D

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 05, 2018, 02:34:35 PM
E!
lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 05, 2018, 09:24:53 PM
^^ It's an eye chart disguised as a road sign assembly!  Ohio is toying around with the idea of doing your eye test during your driving exam.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2018, 09:53:28 PM
I haven't posted my picture of it yet, but on US 98/FL 50 in Ridge Manor West, Florida, there's an entrance to a frontage road across from the intersection of Parkland Avenue. What's weird about it is that there are two different types of No Trucks logo signs on each corner of the entrance to the frontage road.

There's this type on the northeast corner;
File:MUTCD R5-2.svg

And there's this type on the northwest corner;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_R14-5.svg

Here's the area I'm talking about.
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5231394,-82.2316179,3a,30y,357.92h,88.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0zT9oCmzZajFDud0_OZzzg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Ignore the fact that Google Street View gives Cortez Boulevard the name of Parkland Avenue.



UPDATE; AUGUST 6, 2018: I just found out the name of the strip mall was "Carriage Hills Plaza."
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/This-Week-s-Events-In-Hernando-County.html?soid=1108302654528&aid=pRHSFPw9ZvM


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 07, 2018, 11:46:00 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/4NUh8ss8Fz42
Williamsburg, VA has this interesting piece on York/ Lafayette Streets that reads "TO Francis St."  Most likely cause York continues down that street  for a block before it defaults into that street.  Most would figure Francis comes in all the way to this intersection, but York does a L turn here for some reason considering in Colonial Times streets were straight.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 08, 2018, 07:09:37 AM
[PHOTO CREDIT: Doug Kern]

I love how North Dakota snuck in one last state name interstate shield before the state line. My friend took this, obviously, along I-29 South. I, myself, have never been to either Dakota.  :-/
(https://i.imgur.com/5qMGgKN.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 08, 2018, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 05, 2018, 09:24:53 PM
^^ It's an eye chart disguised as a road sign assembly!  Ohio is toying around with the idea of doing your eye test during your driving exam.

Which is the better way to get there...Route 1, or 2? 1, or 2? 1... or 2...? They're very close.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 08, 2018, 09:24:31 PM
Went out for a quick drive tonight and noticed this one at the start of the DE-1 expressway near Dover Air Force Base.

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HyiHx6q.png)

The next "left turn" (i.e. left exit) is 40 miles north of here.  Unless you exclude the E-ZPass lanes I guess (about 5 miles north of here).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 01:48:12 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 08, 2018, 09:24:31 PM
Went out for a quick drive tonight and noticed this one at the start of the DE-1 expressway near Dover Air Force Base.

https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HyiHx6q.png

The next "left turn" (i.e. left exit) is 40 miles north of here.  Unless you exclude the E-ZPass lanes I guess (about 5 miles north of here).

Interesting. Here in WA, the keep-right law applies to all roads, except when required for left turns, so there's no need for extra signage. Do keep-right laws only apply in Delaware when signs are posted? Or was this sign posted at the end of a section that began with "trucks may use all lanes"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 09, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 01:48:12 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 08, 2018, 09:24:31 PM
Went out for a quick drive tonight and noticed this one at the start of the DE-1 expressway near Dover Air Force Base.

https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HyiHx6q.png

The next "left turn" (i.e. left exit) is 40 miles north of here.  Unless you exclude the E-ZPass lanes I guess (about 5 miles north of here).

Interesting. Here in WA, the keep-right law applies to all roads, except when required for left turns, so there's no need for extra signage. Do keep-right laws only apply in Delaware when signs are posted? Or was this sign posted at the end of a section that began with "trucks may use all lanes"?
Don't think so, I think this is just a reminder.  I've never seen a "trucks may use all lanes" sign in Delaware, just this one.  I've seen it on 13 around Dover, which is a standard 4-lane divided highway with unsignalized crossovers (which I hate) and stoplights.  Since it doesn't actually apply to me I've never paid enough attention.  I don't think there's any specific restriction for trucks, presumably unless there's a sign posted.

Title 21, see 4116 paragraph 5 and 4117: http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc03/index.shtml

I should mention that there are "Slower Traffic Keep Right" signs scattered along Route 1, I just can't find an example right now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
OT:

Quote from: ipeters61 on August 09, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
I've seen it on 13 around Dover, which is a standard 4-lane divided highway with unsignalized crossovers (which I hate)

Funny. I've always really liked unsignalized divided highway intersections. Here in WA, signs instruct drivers to pull into the middle area to wait, basically making two intersections out of one. As a result, they're much easier to enter or exit from any direction when compared to a traditional undivided road without a two-way left turn lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 09, 2018, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 09, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
I've seen it on 13 around Dover, which is a standard 4-lane divided highway with unsignalized crossovers (which I hate)
Funny. I've always really liked unsignalized divided highway intersections. Here in WA, signs instruct drivers to pull into the middle area to wait, basically making two intersections out of one. As a result, they're much easier to enter or exit from any direction when compared to a traditional undivided road without a two-way left turn lane.

I've never had a problem with them, either. At least in Minnesota, I always assumed that if there wasn't enough room for a typical passenger vehicle to fit in the median, then I supposed MnDOT wouldnt've put YIELD signs there (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5219843,-93.2355954,3a,90y,80.26h,86.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAqVYqxFfgWasBYdai7IUCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (an example).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 09, 2018, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 09, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
I've seen it on 13 around Dover, which is a standard 4-lane divided highway with unsignalized crossovers (which I hate)
Funny. I've always really liked unsignalized divided highway intersections. Here in WA, signs instruct drivers to pull into the middle area to wait, basically making two intersections out of one. As a result, they're much easier to enter or exit from any direction when compared to a traditional undivided road without a two-way left turn lane.
I've never had a problem with them, either. At least in Minnesota, I always assumed that if there wasn't enough room for a typical passenger vehicle to fit in the median, then I supposed MnDOT wouldnt've put YIELD signs there (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5219843,-93.2355954,3a,90y,80.26h,86.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAqVYqxFfgWasBYdai7IUCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (an example).

True. Divided highways with at-grade intersections are actually pretty rare in WA, but those that do exist are often signed just the same. Stop sign for initial intersection, yield for second intersection. The supplemental "ONE VEHICLE IN MEDIAN AT A TIME" sign is either below the yield sign (https://goo.gl/pKaeJY), in the middle, or below the stop sign (https://goo.gl/rkkCtM) (on the near-side of the intersection).

At even wider intersections, it's not unusual to see more than one car waiting anyway (https://goo.gl/jdsUr1)*, though (as in this case) not all intersections have the aforementioned regulatory sign, nor do all even possess a yield sign. Hell, some don't even have R6-3 signs.

*even more off-topic: note the dashed yellow lines one must cross to enter the left turn lane. I don't think that's correct!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 09, 2018, 05:09:34 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 09, 2018, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 09, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 09, 2018, 11:00:35 AM
I've seen it on 13 around Dover, which is a standard 4-lane divided highway with unsignalized crossovers (which I hate)
Funny. I've always really liked unsignalized divided highway intersections. Here in WA, signs instruct drivers to pull into the middle area to wait, basically making two intersections out of one. As a result, they're much easier to enter or exit from any direction when compared to a traditional undivided road without a two-way left turn lane.

I've never had a problem with them, either. At least in Minnesota, I always assumed that if there wasn't enough room for a typical passenger vehicle to fit in the median, then I supposed MnDOT wouldnt've put YIELD signs there (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5219843,-93.2355954,3a,90y,80.26h,86.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAqVYqxFfgWasBYdai7IUCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (an example).
The crossover part isn't the problem, at least the median itself.  However, the issue is that people around here will shoot from the cross street across 55+ MPH traffic, seemingly without looking.

I've been hit before by someone crossing (not stopping at a stop sign) when I was in through traffic.  And before you blame my driving, I was surrounded by other cars - there was no reason for the other guy to go.  But they ran off so I don't know their excuse.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 11, 2018, 11:36:05 PM
It seems that the CA 58 Business Route in Tehachapi even features an "end" placard.  Finding a signed business route in the central part of California has become a tall order in general much less getting something like proper placards which aren't even a feature on several state highways:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/929/43938842061_367fd10235_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29WJ3Wr)IMG_9278 (https://flic.kr/p/29WJ3Wr) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 13, 2018, 06:02:09 AM
Saw this yesterday, but couldn't get a picture before I passed it (this is Google Street View):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmaps.googleapis.com%2Fmaps%2Fapi%2Fstreetview%3Fsize%3D600x300%26amp%3Blocation%3D42.2132313%2C-70.9240945%26amp%3Bheading%3D20.6%26amp%3Bpitch%3D0&hash=e1479913dac7ea7203306141ac61a4a851cb7cec)

Water St., Weymouth, MA

EDIT: https → http so that the image shows again
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 13, 2018, 01:05:39 PM
Dear Crossing?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on August 13, 2018, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 13, 2018, 01:05:39 PM
Dear Crossing?

Crosssing, which I assume means the two people depicted singing different songs at each other at the same time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 14, 2018, 11:04:29 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/44040441631/in/dateposted-public/
MDOT using text for I-35 on a sequential exit sign along I-70 in Kansas City.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 15, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 13, 2018, 06:02:09 AM
Saw this yesterday, but couldn't get a picture before I passed it (this is Google Street View):

(https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/streetview?size=600x300&location=42.2132313,-70.9240945&heading=20.6&pitch=0)

Water St., Weymouth, MA
It almost looks like a senior couple on the sign, in which case the wife is most likely to call people "dear" lmao
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 15, 2018, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: plain on August 15, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 13, 2018, 06:02:09 AM
Saw this yesterday, but couldn't get a picture before I passed it (this is Google Street View):

(https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/streetview?size=600x300&location=42.2132313,-70.9240945&heading=20.6&pitch=0)

Water St., Weymouth, MA
It almost looks like a senior couple on the sign, in which case the wife is most likely to call people "dear" lmao
These signs showed up on many local streets in Massachusetts for awhile.  The intent was to inform people of elderly people crossing the street.  The legend is a play on the concept that seniors are "dear" to society.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2018, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 15, 2018, 09:28:11 AM
Quote from: plain on August 15, 2018, 09:00:01 AM
Quote from: 1 on August 13, 2018, 06:02:09 AM
Saw this yesterday, but couldn't get a picture before I passed it (this is Google Street View):

https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/streetview?size=600x300&location=42.2132313,-70.9240945&heading=20.6&pitch=0

Water St., Weymouth, MA
It almost looks like a senior couple on the sign, in which case the wife is most likely to call people "dear" lmao
These signs showed up on many local streets in Massachusetts for awhile.  The intent was to inform people of elderly people crossing the street.  The legend is a play on the concept that seniors are "dear" to society.

That makes it the most obscure intentional reference in the history of road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 15, 2018, 04:38:10 PM
Here's another MUTCD compliant or not question:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I-95_NB_Sumter_County_Rest_Area-4.jpg

I looked it up, but I can't find it in the guide signs, or regulatory signs.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2018, 05:10:31 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 15, 2018, 04:38:10 PM
Here's another MUTCD compliant or not question:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I-95_NB_Sumter_County_Rest_Area-4.jpg

I looked it up, but I can't find it in the guide signs, or regulatory signs.

I think there's leeway in the MUTCD that permits custom regulatory signage. I would like the sign to say "PARKING", not "PARK", however.

Washington's MUTCD supplement has rest area signage in it, but nothing for this purpose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 15, 2018, 06:17:17 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/42249629070/in/dateposted-public/
These shield assemblies in Volusia County, FL look so cool with the dark signs and the extended face acting as a border as well as the pinnacle on the top of them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2018, 06:31:15 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 15, 2018, 06:17:17 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/42249629070/in/dateposted-public/
These shield assemblies in Volusia County, FL look so cool with the dark signs and the extended face acting as a border as well as the pinnacle on the top of them.

This would have been a good opportunity to attach the shields to the sign without using visible bolts, like the UK. Kind of ruins the aura, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on August 19, 2018, 12:50:38 PM
Whitewater, WI, has yellow lane use signs instead of the proper white colored ones. (https://goo.gl/maps/XtbuCgMrgUL2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 24, 2018, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: DRMan on July 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
There used to be a aircraft crossing on N Harbor Dr between the San Diego airport and the Coast Guard base. Looking at Google Maps, it isn't clear to me whether it's still in use:
https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2)

But here's a YouTube video that shows it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM)

Other than the Buckley example above, this appears to be the closest example, since it's an actual crossing (not just a low-flying aircraft situation).

The Spanaway example is still a bit strange since there's no signal, and the road is a rather major one. I guess, if you see a plane, yield the right of way? Do planes have the ROW at intersections between taxiways and roadways? :-D

I would think that an actual crossing should have crossing gates like a R/R crossing.  (Similar to what they have in Anchorage as someone had later posted.)

From GSV, there used to be a traffic signal in San Diego at the airplane crossing, but it seems to have been removed.  I guess they no longer have airplanes cross there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 25, 2018, 01:13:58 AM
Quote from: mrsman on August 24, 2018, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2018, 03:49:35 PM
Quote from: DRMan on July 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
There used to be a aircraft crossing on N Harbor Dr between the San Diego airport and the Coast Guard base. Looking at Google Maps, it isn't clear to me whether it's still in use:
https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2 (https://goo.gl/maps/RXC5DVRpkSP2)

But here's a YouTube video that shows it in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1s8-RDxJM)

Other than the Buckley example above, this appears to be the closest example, since it's an actual crossing (not just a low-flying aircraft situation).

The Spanaway example is still a bit strange since there's no signal, and the road is a rather major one. I guess, if you see a plane, yield the right of way? Do planes have the ROW at intersections between taxiways and roadways? :-D

I would think that an actual crossing should have crossing gates like a R/R crossing.  (Similar to what they have in Anchorage as someone had later posted.)

From GSV, there used to be a traffic signal in San Diego at the airplane crossing, but it seems to have been removed.  I guess they no longer have airplanes cross there.

Don't disagree. I guess the need for a crossing arm has not arose at the Spanaway field since aircraft movements are so unusual there (very little opportunity for residents to actually perceive an issue).

Not sure what's up at that San Diego crossing these days. I'm guessing the Coast Guard facility has been permanently turned over to helicopters (and sea planes?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on August 25, 2018, 01:18:11 PM
I don't think this treatment of Florida SR markers on green signs is very common, but I like it. Seen on A1A in Sunny Isles Beach:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2Fnumbers%2Ffl856.jpg&hash=5c63e3067b45cbba21c8ac856e7031d04ea0b713)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrcmc888 on August 25, 2018, 03:42:40 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 15, 2018, 06:17:17 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/42249629070/in/dateposted-public/
These shield assemblies in Volusia County, FL look so cool with the dark signs and the extended face acting as a border as well as the pinnacle on the top of them.

I've seen a few Interstate shields with black backgrounds like your pic on I-81 in Virginia as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 25, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Eth on August 25, 2018, 01:18:11 PM
I don't think this treatment of Florida SR markers on green signs is very common, but I like it. Seen on A1A in Sunny Isles Beach:

http://ten93.com/roadphotos/numbers/fl856.jpg

That makes two. Looks really cool!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign, in Sea Tac, Washington, though installed by King County.  Here. (https://goo.gl/maps/2NF68i35C112)  This kind of sign used to be found at the Renton Boeing vehicle gates, but this is the only one left I know of.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1885/44269329501_5e5d8a3edb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arVTkK)Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign. (https://flic.kr/p/2arVTkK) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on August 25, 2018, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign, in Sea Tac, Washington, though installed by King County.  Here. (https://goo.gl/maps/2NF68i35C112)  This kind of sign used to be found at the Renton Boeing vehicle gates, but this is the only one left I know of.

I was really befuddled of the one I saw just a couple weeks ago in Astoria, OR!  Whose idea was this type of sign?

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44269559511_8d45d10c47_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr)
IMG_5100 (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on August 26, 2018, 11:10:05 AM
EXCLAMATION POINT!!!!!!!!!

Spotted on the western half of WY-296

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1857/43373743175_219e1789aa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/295MLJc)
IMG_5608 (https://flic.kr/p/295MLJc) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on August 26, 2018, 11:40:51 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 26, 2018, 11:10:05 AM
EXCLAMATION POINT!!!!!!!!!

Spotted on the western half of WY-296

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1857/43373743175_219e1789aa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/295MLJc)
IMG_5608 (https://flic.kr/p/295MLJc) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

Especially important for those on motorcycles. Exclamation point is a nice touch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on August 27, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
To my knowledge, this is the very last remaining surviving button copy sign in Central Arkansas

I can confirm that this was here as of last night.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7247461,-92.2221687,3a,15y,118.47h,100.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAAWPqkKZtrJoIG2RsNK6HA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 27, 2018, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on August 27, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
To my knowledge, this is the very last remaining surviving button copy sign in Central Arkansas

I can confirm that this was here as of last night.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7247461,-92.2221687,3a,15y,118.47h,100.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAAWPqkKZtrJoIG2RsNK6HA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Gotta love airport signage...(June 2012)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3876/14952759040_9b8d89322c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMjNjm)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 27, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 27, 2018, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on August 27, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
To my knowledge, this is the very last remaining surviving button copy sign in Central Arkansas

I can confirm that this was here as of last night.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7247461,-92.2221687,3a,15y,118.47h,100.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAAWPqkKZtrJoIG2RsNK6HA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Gotta love airport signage...(June 2012)
<pic>

And don't forget about Harrisburg Airport's signage.

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HBc0NKR.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on August 27, 2018, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 27, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 27, 2018, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on August 27, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
To my knowledge, this is the very last remaining surviving button copy sign in Central Arkansas

I can confirm that this was here as of last night.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7247461,-92.2221687,3a,15y,118.47h,100.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAAWPqkKZtrJoIG2RsNK6HA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Gotta love airport signage...(June 2012)
<pic>

And don't forget about Harrisburg Airport's signage.

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HBc0NKR.png)

Weird that the left sign has shields but the right sign is text-only. Was the sign on the left replaced early on for some reason?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 28, 2018, 05:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 25, 2018, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Eth on August 25, 2018, 01:18:11 PM
I don't think this treatment of Florida SR markers on green signs is very common, but I like it. Seen on A1A in Sunny Isles Beach:

http://ten93.com/roadphotos/numbers/fl856.jpg

That makes two. Looks really cool!

Oklahoma's shield is pretty similar to Florida's, so when Norman did the same thing with this SH-9 shield, it came out just as cool.

(https://i.imgur.com/e8BhvrI.jpg)

The Norman Traffic Division is probably the only road agency in Oklahoma that gives a shit about making signs look nice. (Oddly, Norman's DPW contains two separate road-related agencies–the Streets Division that does road maintenance and the Traffic Division that does just traffic control devices.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2018, 06:46:46 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 25, 2018, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign, in Sea Tac, Washington, though installed by King County.  Here. (https://goo.gl/maps/2NF68i35C112)  This kind of sign used to be found at the Renton Boeing vehicle gates, but this is the only one left I know of.

I was really befuddled of the one I saw just a couple weeks ago in Astoria, OR!  Whose idea was this type of sign?

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44269559511_8d45d10c47_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr)
IMG_5100 (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
I'm actually more intrigued with the fact that the Oregon Film Museum is located within the local county jail.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on August 28, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2018, 06:46:46 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 25, 2018, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign, in Sea Tac, Washington, though installed by King County.  Here. (https://goo.gl/maps/2NF68i35C112)  This kind of sign used to be found at the Renton Boeing vehicle gates, but this is the only one left I know of.

I was really befuddled of the one I saw just a couple weeks ago in Astoria, OR!  Whose idea was this type of sign?

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44269559511_8d45d10c47_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr)
IMG_5100 (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
I'm actually more intrigued with the fact that the Oregon Film Museum is located within the local county jail.



I guess the county jail's way of punishing people is to force the prisoners to watch bad movies 24 hours a day until they're rehabilitated. ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 28, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on August 27, 2018, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 27, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 27, 2018, 08:47:33 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on August 27, 2018, 07:19:04 PM
To my knowledge, this is the very last remaining surviving button copy sign in Central Arkansas

I can confirm that this was here as of last night.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7247461,-92.2221687,3a,15y,118.47h,100.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAAWPqkKZtrJoIG2RsNK6HA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Gotta love airport signage...(June 2012)
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And don't forget about Harrisburg Airport's signage.

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Weird that the left sign has shields but the right sign is text-only. Was the sign on the left replaced early on for some reason?
I think it's because of the Turnpike shield.  It seemed to be a thing in PA back in the text-only button copy days to include shields as long as the Turnpike was involved.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 28, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on August 28, 2018, 09:54:15 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2018, 06:46:46 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 25, 2018, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign, in Sea Tac, Washington, though installed by King County.  Here. (https://goo.gl/maps/2NF68i35C112)  This kind of sign used to be found at the Renton Boeing vehicle gates, but this is the only one left I know of.

I was really befuddled of the one I saw just a couple weeks ago in Astoria, OR!  Whose idea was this type of sign?

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44269559511_8d45d10c47_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr)
IMG_5100 (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
I'm actually more intrigued with the fact that the Oregon Film Museum is located within the local county jail.



I guess the county jail's way of punishing people is to force the prisoners to watch bad movies 24 hours a day until they're rehabilitated. ;)

It's the jail from the opening scene of "The Goonies", certainly the most famous film produced in Astoria.

It is no longer connected to any sort of jail system, though it's in the same parking lot as the new jail.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 28, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 27, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
And don't forget about Harrisburg Airport's signage.

That's signage LEAVING the airport, not directing you to it -- so what's wrong with it?

Signage on the approach to the airport is similarly old school -- https://goo.gl/maps/mEQLbfpKNDv
In fact, Harrisburg in general seems pretty averse to replacing old signage... not sure why as it's the state capital.  See the corner "next left" markers here (https://goo.gl/maps/Z13RPdpWY1K2).

("Old Exit 28."  Read: "This Sign Has Been Here For 15 Years.")

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 28, 2018, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: tckma on August 28, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 27, 2018, 09:41:33 PM
And don't forget about Harrisburg Airport's signage.
That's signage LEAVING the airport, not directing you to it -- so what's wrong with it?
What made you think I was criticizing the signage?  We were talking about airport signs which feature button copy so I thought I'd chime in...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 29, 2018, 12:15:34 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/AkNGbmEwiyC2
Weird NY State signs NY 293 ahead when being it ends here at US 6 should have an END sign instead of showing it ahead on the connection to US 6 W Bound here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on August 29, 2018, 09:19:26 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on August 28, 2018, 08:14:52 PM
What made you think I was criticizing the signage?  We were talking about airport signs which feature button copy so I thought I'd chime in...

I read a tone of voice that apparently wasn't there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 31, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 25, 2018, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
Rubber, pavement-mounted stop sign, in Sea Tac, Washington, though installed by King County.  Here. (https://goo.gl/maps/2NF68i35C112)  This kind of sign used to be found at the Renton Boeing vehicle gates, but this is the only one left I know of.

I was really befuddled of the one I saw just a couple weeks ago in Astoria, OR!  Whose idea was this type of sign?

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/44269559511_8d45d10c47_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr)
IMG_5100 (https://flic.kr/p/2arX4Hr) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

Is there any realistic chance of someone even seeing the stop sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on August 31, 2018, 02:31:13 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 31, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
Is there any realistic chance of someone even seeing the stop sign?

Not sure about that one, but it looks like the linked one in SeaTac is preceded by a conventional stop sign about ten yards or so back.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 31, 2018, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: Eth on August 31, 2018, 02:31:13 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 31, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
Is there any realistic chance of someone even seeing the stop sign?

Not sure about that one, but it looks like the linked one in SeaTac is preceded by a conventional stop sign about ten yards or so back.

I believe the intersection pictured from Astoria also has a stop sign, however, it is not shown in said picture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeCL on September 01, 2018, 07:06:31 AM
Quote from: plain on August 03, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
I've been seeing more unisigns in Virginia lately; interesting that they would move away from one in this instance.

I'm glad VDOT is bringing back their unisigns. When I first came to Virginia as a youngin' they were all over the place, especially in Chesterfield and Hanover countries (and of course the many VA cities that has their own individual versions and have for a long time now). Back since at least the 80's there were also trailblazers on interstates that were also black background unisigns, though I'm not sure if any still exist. I hope VDOT bring those back as well.
I like the black background signs
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on September 03, 2018, 08:40:38 PM
I just found this. https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3065059,-91.1292404,3a,15y,59.54h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy5uK8k5tzihJNUtT7s7sHA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Temporary signs are always nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 03, 2018, 11:58:16 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on September 03, 2018, 08:40:38 PM
I just found this. https://www.google.com/maps/@33.3065059,-91.1292404,3a,15y,59.54h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sy5uK8k5tzihJNUtT7s7sHA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Temporary signs are always nice.

Lmao that 1 though.

Also, I've never seen WIDE LOAD used in a banner before. How common is that??
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 04, 2018, 11:13:06 AM
Somewhere along I-70 Eastbound in Western Colorado, I could've sworn I saw a pair of cautionary text signs recently installed on the opposite shoulders.

The sign on the right shoulder said FALLING ROCKS
The sign on the left shoulder said FALLEN ROCKS.

Which begs the question:  Which lane is the safer one to travel on based on the given informational choices???   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 04, 2018, 12:06:03 PM
I know we had discussed "Low Flying Aircraft" signage earlier, I think on this thread, and I noticed it in both directions on US-50 a few miles east of the I-495 interchange (Capital Beltway) this weekend.

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HClGKMh.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 05, 2018, 07:50:40 PM
How much diagramattic information can you fit onto one warning diamond?


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1889/44451289032_1a49b919dd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aJ1tz3)Crowded diamond. Cotton Valley, LA on LA 160. (https://flic.kr/p/2aJ1tz3) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr


To me & my judgemental self...this must die in fire:  :ded:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1850/42711855850_efbc5e6056.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/285iqFL)30x24 shields at JCT LA 545. (https://flic.kr/p/285iqFL) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 08, 2018, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on September 05, 2018, 07:50:40 PM
To me & my judgemental self...this must die in fire:  :ded:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1850/42711855850_efbc5e6056.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/285iqFL)30x24 shields at JCT LA 545. (https://flic.kr/p/285iqFL) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Throw this I-64 shield in the fire too

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/0fa66b46ea99b04db01043f3bb6b9cff.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 08, 2018, 07:02:51 PM
Quote from: plain on September 08, 2018, 02:49:05 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on September 05, 2018, 07:50:40 PM
To me & my judgemental self...this must die in fire:  :ded:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1850/42711855850_efbc5e6056.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/285iqFL)30x24 shields at JCT LA 545. (https://flic.kr/p/285iqFL) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Throw this I-64 shield in the fire too

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180908/0fa66b46ea99b04db01043f3bb6b9cff.jpg)

SM-S820L
Let's not forget about this weirdo either:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HD09ivG.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on September 08, 2018, 08:47:03 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on September 08, 2018, 07:02:51 PM
Let's not forget about this weirdo either:
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HD09ivG.png)

If Illinois or Indiana were an island...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 08, 2018, 11:17:48 PM
How about this? (https://goo.gl/maps/ojevtePJQs12)  Doubling up on a single sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on September 08, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 08, 2018, 11:17:48 PM
How about this? (https://goo.gl/maps/ojevtePJQs12)  Doubling up on a single sign.
The whole US 1/US 9 concurrency is signed like that, as either "1&9" or "1-9".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 08, 2018, 11:30:21 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 08, 2018, 11:17:48 PM
How about this? (https://goo.gl/maps/ojevtePJQs12)  Doubling up on a single sign.

Unique, definitely! I put that in the same class as Louisiana's US 79/80 fractional shields:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4831718,-93.7799444,0a,75y,0.04h,89.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s2WPW-gWzmTKOIY8p41NwQw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 08, 2018, 11:38:28 PM
Quote from: csw on September 08, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 08, 2018, 11:17:48 PM
How about this? (https://goo.gl/maps/ojevtePJQs12)  Doubling up on a single sign.
The whole US 1/US 9 concurrency is signed like that, as either "1&9" or "1-9".
Another concurrency like that is MD-2/MD-4 (http://alpsroads.net/roads/md/md_2/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 09, 2018, 12:08:22 AM
Quote from: csw on September 08, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 08, 2018, 11:17:48 PM
How about this? (https://goo.gl/maps/ojevtePJQs12)  Doubling up on a single sign.
The whole US 1/US 9 concurrency is signed like that, as either "1&9" or "1-9".

And unlike most other concurrencies where one number tends to have priority, NJDOT and the general public treat 1&9 as if it was a unique route number, typically spoken as 1n9. There's also Truck 1&9 as well.

It should be noted that it was decided 1-9 was the way this would be signed, so any 1&9 signage will eventually be replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on September 10, 2018, 08:41:22 AM
How about how New Hampshire signs US-1 Bypass (https://goo.gl/maps/rGGVV2WJ1eM2)?

There used to be one with a dash in the shield: "BY-PASS 1" -- but I can't find that one now.  From GMSV, it looks like the signage on I-95 has all been replaced since I lived up in NH.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 10, 2018, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: tckma on September 10, 2018, 08:41:22 AM
How about how New Hampshire signs US-1 Bypass (https://goo.gl/maps/rGGVV2WJ1eM2)?

There used to be one with a dash in the shield: "BY-PASS 1" -- but I can't find that one now.  From GMSV, it looks like the signage on I-95 has all been replaced since I lived up in NH.

Nothing in New Hampshire tops the recycled Stop Signs redone into US Route Shields.  I have one that was made into a US 4 shield in my garage. 

https://flic.kr/p/Tc1i4v
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on September 10, 2018, 07:20:53 PM
On NS 103 in Canada:
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4817452.1536601954!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/confusing-sign.jpg)

The explanation here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/confusing-road-sign-port-mouton-1.4817440

QuoteThe sign – on Highway 103 a few kilometres before exit 21 – appeared in late August when, according to the Department of Transportation, a local Best Western took down its billboard, revealing the patchwork underneath.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 11, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2018, 07:20:53 PM
On NS 103 in Canada:
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4817452.1536601954!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/confusing-sign.jpg)

The explanation here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/confusing-road-sign-port-mouton-1.4817440

QuoteThe sign — on Highway 103 a few kilometres before exit 21 — appeared in late August when, according to the Department of Transportation, a local Best Western took down its billboard, revealing the patchwork underneath.
[Vinesauce] Vinny - Road Sign Corruptions

In all seriousness though, I suppose that's one way to recycle old road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 11, 2018, 06:44:07 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 11, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2018, 07:20:53 PM
On NS 103 in Canada:
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4817452.1536601954!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/confusing-sign.jpg)

The explanation here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/confusing-road-sign-port-mouton-1.4817440

QuoteThe sign – on Highway 103 a few kilometres before exit 21 – appeared in late August when, according to the Department of Transportation, a local Best Western took down its billboard, revealing the patchwork underneath.
[Vinesauce] Vinny - Road Sign Corruptions

In all seriousness though, I suppose that's one way to recycle old road signs.

Corrupted JPG files from SmartCard looked like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 11, 2018, 04:25:26 PM
Baby, if youve ever wondered...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmxApaDXgAAJ4JQ?format=jpg)

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:AZ7IPklZ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 11, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
Did that sign make it on to anyone's local news yesterday? I saw it on KTLA yesterday evening.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 12, 2018, 11:24:12 AM
When Flooded Turn Around Don't Drown sign on CR 419 near Deer Park, Florida:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/43910400674_20d71f1af1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29UdhiG)

Good advice, but that's a lot of words in a diamond warning sign.

Quote from: thenetwork on September 11, 2018, 04:25:26 PM
Baby, if youve ever wondered...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmxApaDXgAAJ4JQ?format=jpg)

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:AZ7IPklZ

Four eyes!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 12, 2018, 11:55:44 AM
Just found this gem in the area of the PA-413/US-13 intersection:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HDz4dFQ.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 12, 2018, 08:50:06 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 12, 2018, 11:24:12 AM
When Flooded Turn Around Don't Drown sign on CR 419 near Deer Park, Florida:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/43910400674_20d71f1af1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29UdhiG)

Good advice, but that's a lot of words in a diamond warning sign.

The National Weather Service is providing those signs to state and local governments to install in flood-prone areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 12, 2018, 10:22:17 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 12, 2018, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 11, 2018, 04:25:26 PM
Baby, if youve ever wondered...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmxApaDXgAAJ4JQ?format=jpg)

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/pm_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=od:AZ7IPklZ

Four eyes!

Usually, the SW Ohio city is misspelled with 2 T's (Cincinnatti), if it gets misspelled at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeek2500 on September 15, 2018, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 11, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2018, 07:20:53 PM
On NS 103 in Canada:
-snip

The explanation here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/confusing-road-sign-port-mouton-1.4817440

QuoteThe sign – on Highway 103 a few kilometres before exit 21 – appeared in late August when, according to the Department of Transportation, a local Best Western took down its billboard, revealing the patchwork underneath.
[Vinesauce] Vinny - Road Sign Corruptions

In all seriousness though, I suppose that's one way to recycle old road signs.
Love that reference!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 16, 2018, 01:19:45 AM
Quote from: Roadgeek2500 on September 15, 2018, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 11, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2018, 07:20:53 PM
On NS 103 in Canada:
-snip

The explanation here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/confusing-road-sign-port-mouton-1.4817440

QuoteThe sign — on Highway 103 a few kilometres before exit 21 — appeared in late August when, according to the Department of Transportation, a local Best Western took down its billboard, revealing the patchwork underneath.
[Vinesauce] Vinny - Road Sign Corruptions

In all seriousness though, I suppose that's one way to recycle old road signs.
Love that reference!

Was hoping someone else here would get it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 16, 2018, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 16, 2018, 01:19:45 AM
Quote from: Roadgeek2500 on September 15, 2018, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 11, 2018, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 10, 2018, 07:20:53 PM
On NS 103 in Canada:
-snip

The explanation here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/confusing-road-sign-port-mouton-1.4817440

QuoteThe sign – on Highway 103 a few kilometres before exit 21 – appeared in late August when, according to the Department of Transportation, a local Best Western took down its billboard, revealing the patchwork underneath.
[Vinesauce] Vinny - Road Sign Corruptions

In all seriousness though, I suppose that's one way to recycle old road signs.
Love that reference!

Was hoping someone else here would get it!

Love his 80s Mario and Luigi banter. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on September 19, 2018, 02:06:21 PM
Signs on I-55 southbound in Springfield are doing the same sick filthy thing they do in Iowa, where they cram a bunch of tiny shields in the space allotted for one regular one.  Go make a bigger sign you lazy slobs.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1854/42950682960_f18c252909_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28rptEy)
IL-I-55X098AS (https://flic.kr/p/28rptEy) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 19, 2018, 07:59:04 PM
California

63

Route

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/30921010638_fcc7430e36_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P7ogc5)63CAa (https://flic.kr/p/P7ogc5) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on September 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/35cc1b41c6487968d84588b907ee835d.jpg)

I haven't seen another sign like this anywhere else
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on September 20, 2018, 11:26:26 PM
With cannabis becoming legal in Canada in a few weeks, apparently signs like these are popping up for southbound travelers approaching the US border:
(https://cdn.mtlblog.com/u/2018/09/20/57f7dfdae7fe411296e399ed761d62f431d4e7ad.png_640xrel.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 20, 2018, 11:32:24 PM
Probably a good idea. Lots of British Columbians lose their marijuana crossing the border into Washington, thinking it's okay since WA legalized it recreationally. But the federal government runs the border, and they're not too keen on the plant just yet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 21, 2018, 06:03:54 AM
Quote from: fillup420 on September 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/35cc1b41c6487968d84588b907ee835d.jpg)

I haven't seen another sign like this anywhere else

Not sure which appears more sinister...the fog-shrouded ONLY warning among the dormant trees, or that (Truck) 15 mph speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on September 21, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
I'm guessing that's western NC, going by the terrain?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: slorydn1 on September 25, 2018, 11:45:50 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on September 21, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
I'm guessing that's western NC, going by the terrain?

Absolutely. In fact, it's right here (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8501778,-82.0530725,3a,49y,269.31h,96.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5hIuRG88lrCf9xFXz13dIA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=1)


There are some more interesting signs south of that after a few curves before you get to the ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ARMOURERERIC on September 26, 2018, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on September 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/35cc1b41c6487968d84588b907ee835d.jpg)

I haven't seen another sign like this anywhere else

About 10 miles north of where I work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on September 27, 2018, 09:49:36 AM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on December 06, 2013, 06:17:50 AM
Whoever put those football jersey type numbers on the US 64 sign must have been either an OU Sooners fan or an OSU Cowboys fan.
Either that or such is paying homage (of sorts) to older, pre-Highway Gothic, sign fonts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 30, 2018, 01:39:49 PM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1976/43053128790_1c0cb1a08c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28AsxeY)Old US cutout? Vicksburg, MS (https://flic.kr/p/28AsxeY) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Could these be old US cutouts?  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 30, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
Not so sure. Doesn't look like quite the right shape. Though even if it was, it's an easy shape to replicate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 30, 2018, 10:00:00 PM
Seen on the OhioRoads FB page -- Napoleon, OH:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/475036232662707?view=permalink&id=1135247853308205

Where to begin on this one...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on September 30, 2018, 10:04:32 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 30, 2018, 10:00:00 PM
Seen on the OhioRoads FB page -- Napoleon, OH:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/475036232662707?view=permalink&id=1135247853308205

Where to begin on this one...?

"You must log in first".

(I don't have a Facebook account.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 30, 2018, 11:26:05 PM
My view...

(https://i.imgur.com/ZvYsdIw.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 01, 2018, 06:25:43 AM
It's the "Business Loop I-6" photo that has been posted before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on October 01, 2018, 12:06:54 PM
Ummm, yeah ... thanks for the Fakebook link ...   :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 03, 2018, 07:38:12 AM
The sheer suck in these signs (there's 2) is almost unbearable.

https://goo.gl/maps/h7X1vQEUvgp

Image from GSV
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181003/3dc2329fb45881bdae77915331d41fc5.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 03, 2018, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: plain on October 03, 2018, 07:38:12 AM
The sheer suck in these signs (there's 2) is almost unbearable.

https://goo.gl/maps/h7X1vQEUvgp

Image from GSV
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181003/3dc2329fb45881bdae77915331d41fc5.jpg)

SM-S820L



I mean, it's from the Land of Misfit Signs (i.e. Chesapeake, Norfolk, and Virginia Beach), so that hardly surprises me at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 03, 2018, 08:52:05 PM
Have we had a similar sign posted  in the past 153 pages?


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1901/44174282005_bafd5020da.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aiwK2P)Limit speed sign at Grayson, LA. (https://flic.kr/p/2aiwK2P) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 04, 2018, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on August 08, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I just drove by this one on Saturday.  I suspect it's not heavily enforced...  :sombrero:

Translation:  60 km/h IN PRESENCE OF BUTTERFLIES

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FMariposas_zpsk2ri7rt1.jpg&hash=5ee09bb2290da66bcf66cd1b5ac95a47c9fb1e4e)

I got a better picture of one of these earlier this year.

(https://i.imgur.com/FHoIWzK.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 04, 2018, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: kphoger on October 04, 2018, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: kphoger on August 08, 2016, 10:31:13 AM
I just drove by this one on Saturday.  I suspect it's not heavily enforced...  :sombrero:

Translation:  60 km/h IN PRESENCE OF BUTTERFLIES

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FMariposas_zpsk2ri7rt1.jpg&hash=5ee09bb2290da66bcf66cd1b5ac95a47c9fb1e4e)

I got a better picture of one of these earlier this year.

(https://i.imgur.com/FHoIWzK.png)

Careful, ou may piss off The Monarch and his Murderflies Henchman...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fventurebrosblog.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F05%2Fshowdown-at-cremation-creek-part-two.jpg&hash=916255245c60d48af0a1b6ed1cb02beda11d8c09)

...or this may happen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpbfcomics.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2FPBF148-Butterfly_Catchers.gif&hash=689b4d856847e13fb92e2f7f704cc7ae2059ffe2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 04, 2018, 12:33:19 PM
Old sign with cateye reflectors that hung from the old Ouachita River bridge in Columbia, LA.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1933/43272418470_ac5d378a32.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28VQsqw)Original sign from old US 165/LA 4 Ouachita River bridge. (https://flic.kr/p/28VQsqw) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Other shots I took from this area:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmjAYMD5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on October 07, 2018, 09:30:25 PM
I rode with a friend from Liverpool to Warwick, NY this weekend to go to a wedding.  On NY 17 eastbound in Liberty, I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8020247,-74.7357926,3a,15y,205.13h,92.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCGTKdzTszapxod_IaDAs6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) Pizza Hut sign with their old logo.  The sign looked fairly new, but the logo was last used in 1999.

On the way back, we went through PA.  On I-84 westbound, my friend noticed that some of the mile markers used fractions, and others used decimals.  We didn't notice any pattern to which was used.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on October 08, 2018, 09:01:56 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on October 04, 2018, 12:33:19 PM
Old sign with cateye reflectors that hung from the old Ouachita River bridge in Columbia, LA.

Governor Allen wasn't great; he was just O.K., apparently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 08, 2018, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: Michael on October 07, 2018, 09:30:25 PM
On the way back, we went through PA.  On I-84 westbound, my friend noticed that some of the mile markers used fractions, and others used decimals.  We didn't notice any pattern to which was used.
Probably just when they were replaced.  The decimals are from the MUTCD (and are expanding; I don't recall there being any at all the first time I drove I-84).  The fractions appear to be an older PennDOT standard.

If you want to talk inconsistent milemarkers, just look at Region 8 which can't seem to decide if it wants to use green and white or all green tenths even on brand new installs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ModernDayWarrior on October 09, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
Non-standard and ugly font on a city limit sign, Caledonia, MO

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1909/31341363938_89d0167e28.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on October 10, 2018, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: ModernDayWarrior on October 09, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
Non-standard and ugly font on a city limit sign, Caledonia, MO

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1909/31341363938_89d0167e28.jpg)
Yet the small POP 130 font appears to be Series D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 11, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fwQm7WTkAm72 I thought at first this was a typical reassurance shield with a construction sign  afterward attached, but I now figured its cause of the circle ahead and the fact that US 1 Business changes alignments there.  The construction is to inform straight through motorists to expect it only and that those destined elsewhere would not encounter it all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 12, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 11, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fwQm7WTkAm72 I thought at first this was a typical reassurance shield with a construction sign  afterward attached, but I now figured its cause of the circle ahead and the fact that US 1 Business changes alignments there.  The construction is to inform straight through motorists to expect it only and that those destined elsewhere would not encounter it all.

That's exactly how I would have interpreted it:  road construction on Bus-1.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on October 12, 2018, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 12, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 11, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fwQm7WTkAm72 I thought at first this was a typical reassurance shield with a construction sign  afterward attached, but I now figured its cause of the circle ahead and the fact that US 1 Business changes alignments there.  The construction is to inform straight through motorists to expect it only and that those destined elsewhere would not encounter it all.
That's exactly how I would have interpreted it:  road construction on Bus-1.

I thought this was the standard way of warning about road work on another road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 12, 2018, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 12, 2018, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 12, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 11, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fwQm7WTkAm72 I thought at first this was a typical reassurance shield with a construction sign  afterward attached, but I now figured its cause of the circle ahead and the fact that US 1 Business changes alignments there.  The construction is to inform straight through motorists to expect it only and that those destined elsewhere would not encounter it all.
That's exactly how I would have interpreted it:  road construction on Bus-1.

I thought this was the standard way of warning about road work on another road.

Road work ½ mile (or whatever distance), yes. Road work ahead, no, because that section of US 1 BUS is not ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 12, 2018, 03:26:04 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 12, 2018, 03:01:36 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 12, 2018, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 12, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 11, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fwQm7WTkAm72 I thought at first this was a typical reassurance shield with a construction sign  afterward attached, but I now figured its cause of the circle ahead and the fact that US 1 Business changes alignments there.  The construction is to inform straight through motorists to expect it only and that those destined elsewhere would not encounter it all.
That's exactly how I would have interpreted it:  road construction on Bus-1.

I thought this was the standard way of warning about road work on another road.

Road work ½ mile (or whatever distance), yes. Road work ahead, no, because that section of US 1 BUS is not ahead.

I see that setup fairly often when a crossroad has road construction.

<ROAD WORK AHEAD>
[119th Street]

<MAX WIDTH 11'6">
[EAST]
{132}
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on October 13, 2018, 10:51:14 AM
I found this interesting during my recent 13 state (4533 miles) road trip. Found in Elko, Nevada.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpnearl.com%2Fupstatenyroads.com%2Fbackup%2Fpublic%2FIMG_2029.jpg&hash=7b95b02ea35012e25f40571f53ca74b25f0ccb73)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 13, 2018, 10:59:23 PM
Keep? https://goo.gl/maps/SiUziBLW4cn
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 14, 2018, 12:35:38 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2018, 10:59:23 PM
Keep? https://goo.gl/maps/SiUziBLW4cn

Locals decided to keep Cape May, rather than demolish it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on October 14, 2018, 07:45:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 14, 2018, 12:35:38 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2018, 10:59:23 PM
Keep? https://goo.gl/maps/SiUziBLW4cn

Locals decided to keep Cape May, rather than demolish it.

No, it leads to that famous medieval fort that defended Cape May during the Norman Conquest. :sombrero:

Obviously said KEEP LEFT and was probably covered up for the Exit 0 construction. Not sure why they'd need to do that since it was never not true, though at the time of that Street View, they did still have most of the right turn lane for NB 109 blocked off. I certainly hope they've removed it by now, though there's no newer Street View southbound.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on October 15, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
Dear LaDOTD,

Will you please stop making 30x24 shields??? You suck at it! My hard earned tax money is being wasted on these eyesores. Please go back to 24" square GREEN shields. They are so much more durable.

Thank you,

Broke-ass Louisiana taxpayer.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1938/31437915748_d565ca4610.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PU4x59)Terrible LA 146 shields (https://flic.kr/p/PU4x59) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on October 16, 2018, 12:29:19 AM
This is somewhere in Tulsa...can someone help identify where exactly?
(https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2018/08/TulsaRt66-970x510.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 16, 2018, 11:57:55 AM
Quote from: chays on October 16, 2018, 12:29:19 AM
This is somewhere in Tulsa...can someone help identify where exactly?
(https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2018/08/TulsaRt66-970x510.jpg)

Cyrus Avery Centennial Plaza

Location on Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/eHcPz1Uncdz)

News article from 2009, including video (http://www.newson6.com/story/10239625/route-66-signs-replaced-on-pedestrian-bridge)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on October 16, 2018, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 16, 2018, 11:57:55 AM
Quote from: chays on October 16, 2018, 12:29:19 AM
This is somewhere in Tulsa...can someone help identify where exactly?
(https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2018/08/TulsaRt66-970x510.jpg)

Cyrus Avery Centennial Plaza

Location on Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/eHcPz1Uncdz)

News article from 2009, including video (http://www.newson6.com/story/10239625/route-66-signs-replaced-on-pedestrian-bridge)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 17, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/44669773454/in/dateposted-public/
A sign assembly that has a couple of interesting errors.  First the Exit 8 panel should be in the middle while the pull through for both I-244 & US 412 W Bound should be on the left.

Also US 412 is signed in front of I-244 where the interstate is supposed to be dominant over the lower designation US route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on October 18, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
(https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2018/08/TulsaRt66-970x510.jpg)

It looks like they're using the "66" numerals from the Phillips 66 logo.
:-/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 18, 2018, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on October 18, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
(https://www.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2018/08/TulsaRt66-970x510.jpg)

It looks like they're using the "66" numerals from the Phillips 66 logo.
:-/

It would make sense -- historically, Phillips Petroleum was headquartered in Bartlesville, which is north of Tulsa on US 75. The recent series of mergers and splits with Conoco have ended that, though both ConocoPhillips and Phillips 66 maintain significant operations in the area.

That appears to be a City of Tulsa installation. I'd guess Phillips paid for that advertisement in some way or another, but who knows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 19, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
Interesting that the 21'0" clearance is marked. That's unusually high and I would think a clearance that high would not need to be marked, unless Oklahoma marks all clearances.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 19, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 19, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
Interesting that the 21'0" clearance is marked. That's unusually high and I would think a clearance that high would not need to be marked, unless Oklahoma marks all clearances.

I'm pretty sure they mark almost if not all clearances. At least that's by me judging this photo (Taken by myself)

(https://i.imgur.com/N5zntnQ.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 20, 2018, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2018, 05:52:01 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/44669773454/in/dateposted-public/
A sign assembly that has a couple of interesting errors.  First the Exit 8 panel should be in the middle while the pull through for both I-244 & US 412 W Bound should be on the left.

Also US 412 is signed in front of I-244 where the interstate is supposed to be dominant over the lower designation US route.

Also that the pull through only has two arrows, but the road is four lanes here. Assuming there are no lane drops at exit 8, the pull through either needs more arrows or (preferably) no arrows at all.

And actually, since there does not appear to be a major route decision point here (i.e. no intersecting or departing numbered routes), the pull through sign is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 20, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on October 19, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 19, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
Interesting that the 21'0" clearance is marked. That's unusually high and I would think a clearance that high would not need to be marked, unless Oklahoma marks all clearances.

I'm pretty sure they mark almost if not all clearances. At least that's by me judging this photo (Taken by myself)

The MUTCD standard is to mark all clearances less than 12 inches above the statutory maximum vehicle height (Sec. 2C.27). Marking all clearances seems rather excessive...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 21, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
WSDOT just installed this new guide sign on I-5 in Fife, WA. That inset exit tab...reminds me of another west coast state...

(https://i.imgur.com/UZIhm3g.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 21, 2018, 04:14:14 AM
Quote from: roadfro on October 20, 2018, 03:02:22 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on October 19, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 19, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
Interesting that the 21'0" clearance is marked. That's unusually high and I would think a clearance that high would not need to be marked, unless Oklahoma marks all clearances.

I'm pretty sure they mark almost if not all clearances. At least that's by me judging this photo (Taken by myself)

The MUTCD standard is to mark all clearances less than 12 inches above the statutory maximum vehicle height (Sec. 2C.27). Marking all clearances seems rather excessive...

The one type of sign that Oklahoma chooses to obsess about, and it's the one that doesn't matter. (Same applies for ramp speeds on the gore points.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 21, 2018, 10:40:48 AM
I haven't checked chapter and verse, but I think TxDOT also signs all bridge clearances.  In the case of the High Five (US 75/I-635) interchange in Dallas, this results in some interesting pipework structures to mount the clearance signs on the direct connector ramps, which are almost all precast segmental concrete in the interchange core where they cross in plan.

Regardless of what the MUTCD says, I see limited value in signing any clearances above 17 ft because that is the standard height from pavement to the bottom of sign structures.  Engineers are generally reluctant to increase clearance under sign structures because this can adversely affect the amount of time the driver has to read the signs (viewing time is a function of operating speed, entrance angle, and observation angle) and also limit headlamp illumination of the sign face, which is necessary for reading at night unless external illumination is provided through fixed luminaires mounted to the structure.

I have wondered if some states have a sign-all-clearances policy for legal reasons, largely specific to court precedent in each state, that have to do with liability for poorly planned OSOW movements.  I can see courts in one state holding that it is the OSOW operator's responsibility to verify all clearances on a proposed overdimensional route (thus relieving agencies of the responsibility for signing all clearances) while courts in another state regard unsigned clearances as tantamount to an attractive nuisance and hold that an OSOW operator cannot be held liable when clearance signs are absent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 21, 2018, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 21, 2018, 10:40:48 AM
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I have wondered if some states have a sign-all-clearances policy for legal reasons, largely specific to court precedent in each state, that have to do with liability for poorly planned OSOW movements.  I can see courts in one state holding that it is the OSOW operator's responsibility to verify all clearances on a proposed overdimensional route (thus relieving agencies of the responsibility for signing all clearances) while courts in another state regard unsigned clearances as tantamount to an attractive nuisance and hold that an OSOW operator cannot be held liable when clearance signs are absent.

On the other hand, in general it should be necessary to sign only the lowest-clearance structure between two exits, and sign it on the first structure regardless of that structure's clearance.  Practical reality is that if you can pass beneath that lowest-clearance one, you'll pass beneath all the others.  Exceptions for arch support bridges where clearance on the shoulders is unusually low.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 21, 2018, 11:55:45 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 21, 2018, 11:39:12 AM
On the other hand, in general it should be necessary to sign only the lowest-clearance structure between two exits, and sign it on the first structure regardless of that structure's clearance.  Practical reality is that if you can pass beneath that lowest-clearance one, you'll pass beneath all the others.  Exceptions for arch support bridges where clearance on the shoulders is unusually low.

If a 15' bridge is signed for 11' (as an example), a trucker might think that the sign was in error (as the bridge is obviously higher than 11'), not realizing that there is an 11' bridge ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 21, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Southwestern corner of Little Rock, Arkansas.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1908/44751443414_ba6e7312f6_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/2bbwR1A)STOP and LOOK (https://flic.kr/p/2bbwR1A) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 21, 2018, 09:16:24 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 21, 2018, 11:55:45 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 21, 2018, 11:39:12 AM
On the other hand, in general it should be necessary to sign only the lowest-clearance structure between two exits, and sign it on the first structure regardless of that structure's clearance.  Practical reality is that if you can pass beneath that lowest-clearance one, you'll pass beneath all the others.  Exceptions for arch support bridges where clearance on the shoulders is unusually low.

If a 15' bridge is signed for 11' (as an example), a trucker might think that the sign was in error (as the bridge is obviously higher than 11'), not realizing that there is an 11' bridge ahead.

Fair point.  The devil's in the details, but my point was that it shouldn't be necessary to sign the clearance of every overhead structure; only the lowest such structure between two exits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on October 21, 2018, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on October 21, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Southwestern corner of Little Rock, Arkansas.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1908/44751443414_ba6e7312f6_b.jpg)

(https://flic.kr/p/2bbwR1A)STOP and LOOK (https://flic.kr/p/2bbwR1A) by TheInstrumentalist (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
Closest thing we have to this is around me is in Salisbury MD at the 50/13/50 Business interchange, where you get to cross thick traffic going 65+ ("look again").

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HJzaTbs.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on October 21, 2018, 11:10:13 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1836/44043677502_75d51890ef_z_d.jpg)
Springfield, MO

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1734/27831629797_0f6ff0d0d8_z_d.jpg)
Zabcikville, Texas
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on October 22, 2018, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 21, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
WSDOT just installed this new guide sign on I-5 in Fife, WA. That inset exit tab...reminds me of another west coast state...

(https://i.imgur.com/UZIhm3g.jpg)

What are they doing? Can they not simply choose a sign style and stay with it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 22, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on October 22, 2018, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 21, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
WSDOT just installed this new guide sign on I-5 in Fife, WA. That inset exit tab...reminds me of another west coast state...

https://i.imgur.com/UZIhm3g.jpg

What are they doing? Can they not simply choose a sign style and stay with it?

Not these days. SW region uses legit tabs, every where else uses full-width tabs, except when they don't (https://goo.gl/13BzcJ). And now the Olympic region feels the need to use inset partial-width exit tabs like CA.

At least the advanced signage is proper:

(https://i.imgur.com/Damap1e.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on October 23, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on October 22, 2018, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 21, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
WSDOT just installed this new guide sign on I-5 in Fife, WA. That inset exit tab...reminds me of another west coast state...

https://i.imgur.com/UZIhm3g.jpg

What are they doing? Can they not simply choose a sign style and stay with it?

Not these days. SW region uses legit tabs, every where else uses full-width tabs, except when they don't (https://goo.gl/13BzcJ). And now the Olympic region feels the need to use inset partial-width exit tabs like CA.

At least the advanced signage is proper:

(https://i.imgur.com/Damap1e.jpg)

But even that sign is off. It's formatting just looks odd, the sign is too "squared off" for lack of a better term. It's reminiscent of some of the signs they put up circa 2003-04 when they messed with the formatting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 24, 2018, 01:27:09 AM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on October 23, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 22, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on October 22, 2018, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 21, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
WSDOT just installed this new guide sign on I-5 in Fife, WA. That inset exit tab...reminds me of another west coast state...

https://i.imgur.com/UZIhm3g.jpg

What are they doing? Can they not simply choose a sign style and stay with it?

Not these days. SW region uses legit tabs, every where else uses full-width tabs, except when they don't (https://goo.gl/13BzcJ). And now the Olympic region feels the need to use inset partial-width exit tabs like CA.

At least the advanced signage is proper:

https://i.imgur.com/Damap1e.jpg

But even that sign is off. It's formatting just looks odd, the sign is too "squared off" for lack of a better term. It's reminiscent of some of the signs they put up circa 2003-04 when they messed with the formatting.

Yeah, it ain't perfect. The corners are a bit too square. But, not as bad some of those earlier signs, like those on 410 in Sumner approaching 167: https://goo.gl/bd3cga. The green seemed pretty dark to me, too. It might be temporary, since this has always been an optional exit. The HOV lane ends before the Fife curve now, with the idea to reduce lane switching and weaving. Once the HOV lane extends to 16, this might go back to an optional exit. A briefly-used (and horribly designed) exit-only sign for 167 on northbound 5 previously used a similar green color: https://goo.gl/63TBtB
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on October 25, 2018, 12:55:39 AM
Inspired by US71's heart crosswalk post on the previous page, here is a variant of a school crossing sign.  There are no known schools on this part of First Avenue in SODO, Seattle, near the Starbucks headquarters.  In the late 1970s, Seattle had a large horizontal pictograms of the pedestrian symbol being hit by a car and sent airborne.  I'll post it if I can find it.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1909/45495990042_abb69231a4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cjjQMq)School crossing sign variant, SODO, Seattle (https://flic.kr/p/2cjjQMq) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on October 25, 2018, 12:17:34 PM
Found an interesting use of the "South" tag on AK-1 in Anchorage.

(https://snag.gy/sLVH3X.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 26, 2018, 04:06:36 PM
Saw a repurposed I-670 shield in downtown Columbus recently. Apologies for the quality, as it was night and my camera is pretty bad at dark shots.

(https://i.imgur.com/wqREDk4.jpg)

Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 25, 2018, 12:55:39 AM
Inspired by US71's heart crosswalk post on the previous page, here is a variant of a school crossing sign.  There are no known schools on this part of First Avenue in SODO, Seattle, near the Starbucks headquarters.  In the late 1970s, Seattle had a large horizontal pictograms of the pedestrian symbol being hit by a car and sent airborne.  I'll post it if I can find it.

There's also one of these signs on 45th Street just east of I-5 (and understandably close to the UW campus). Always made me chuckle at the message they're unintentionally sending.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on October 27, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
Here is another couple from western NC

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/78c0238ac1aa955c6839f3accf577312.jpg)

This one threw me off a bit

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/c5b78e1f474984e5e3a12ce997f4509d.jpg)

And I love this one in St Louis

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/3e6d64b8564591c1a40ec98d7250e8f7.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on October 27, 2018, 03:00:46 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on October 27, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
Here is another couple from western NC

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/78c0238ac1aa955c6839f3accf577312.jpg)



This one could also go in the "Unusual Hill Signage" thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 28, 2018, 12:34:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/goEcpJQs12m
Contractor goof here.  Forgot to move the sign when NJ 23 was realigned.  The sign should really be moved a short distance further like after NJ 23 SB Traffic is on this road as the sign was intended for that sole purpose.  Grant NJ 23 SB did use the road heading from this signal and also behind it where its now a one way, but when the intersection and the new SB alignment was created the sign should have been moved then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 28, 2018, 01:27:14 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2018, 12:34:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/goEcpJQs12m
Contractor goof here.  Forgot to move the sign when NJ 23 was realigned.  The sign should really be moved a short distance further like after NJ 23 SB Traffic is on this road as the sign was intended for that sole purpose.  Grant NJ 23 SB did use the road heading from this signal and also behind it where its now a one way, but when the intersection and the new SB alignment was created the sign should have been moved then.

Besides the sign, that link reminds me just how good NJ is at signal placement, compared to much of the east coast.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: djlynch on October 28, 2018, 08:03:55 PM
This sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2791159,-97.7297872,3a,20.5y,225.3h,102.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjmzBI_L_Hw_pt2B6O8ir2A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) went up in Austin a few months ago. Two lines of negative-contrast Clearview, two of FHWA. Strangely, there's an almost-identical sign a little bit further down that's all FHWA (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2652504,-97.7351234,3a,15y,209.65h,97.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sasUceTOQcO3DbpNIdauIfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

In addition to the font issue, I'm also pretty sure that the "EXIT" should match the rest of the text rather than being in small caps. As it is, it implies that the message ends after "must."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on October 28, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: djlynch on October 28, 2018, 08:03:55 PM
This sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2791159,-97.7297872,3a,20.5y,225.3h,102.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjmzBI_L_Hw_pt2B6O8ir2A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) went up in Austin a few months ago. Two lines of negative-contrast Clearview, two of FHWA. Strangely, there's an almost-identical sign a little bit further down that's all FHWA (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2652504,-97.7351234,3a,15y,209.65h,97.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sasUceTOQcO3DbpNIdauIfw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

In addition to the font issue, I'm also pretty sure that the "EXIT" should match the rest of the text rather than being in small caps. As it is, it implies that the message ends after "must."

Maybe TxDOT decided to switch back to FHWA for five minutes and this sign was halfway through being assembled when they did that. :nod:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 28, 2018, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 28, 2018, 01:27:14 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2018, 12:34:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/goEcpJQs12m
Contractor goof here.  Forgot to move the sign when NJ 23 was realigned.  The sign should really be moved a short distance further like after NJ 23 SB Traffic is on this road as the sign was intended for that sole purpose.  Grant NJ 23 SB did use the road heading from this signal and also behind it where its now a one way, but when the intersection and the new SB alignment was created the sign should have been moved then.

Besides the sign, that link reminds me just how good NJ is at signal placement, compared to much of the east coast.
Yup only California and Illinois have set ups like it.  Of course, they both are not on the east coast as from Maine to Florida all the  states use standard placements. Most use span wires too.  Up until recently NJ and NH was the only east coast states that used mast arms.  However, DE and MD have switched, with VA and FL using them quite often, but still use standard over lane placements.  Even New Hampshire with its mast arms is not like NJ, CA, or IL placements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 29, 2018, 12:11:31 AM
New sign near SR 99 in Seattle:

https://twitter.com/dongho_chang/status/1055902826461782016
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 29, 2018, 01:03:40 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 28, 2018, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 28, 2018, 01:27:14 AM
Besides the sign, that link reminds me just how good NJ is at signal placement, compared to much of the east coast.

Yup only California and Illinois have set ups like it.  Of course, they both are not on the east coast as from Maine to Florida all the  states use standard placements. Most use span wires too.  Up until recently NJ and NH was the only east coast states that used mast arms.  However, DE and MD have switched, with VA and FL using them quite often, but still use standard over lane placements.  Even New Hampshire with its mast arms is not like NJ, CA, or IL placements.

Other states too, like Nevada, Arizona, Minnesota, and others. But NJ definitely sticks out on the east coast, though I seem to recall Massachusetts being pretty good on occasion, and NYC too, but, again, only occasionally.

Quote from: djlynch on October 28, 2018, 08:03:55 PM
This sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2791159,-97.7297872,3a,20.5y,225.3h,102.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjmzBI_L_Hw_pt2B6O8ir2A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) went up in Austin a few months ago. Two lines of negative-contrast Clearview, two of FHWA.

I seem to remember seeing quite a bit of negative-contrast Clearview last time I was in Texas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 29, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on October 27, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
And I love this one in St Louis

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/3e6d64b8564591c1a40ec98d7250e8f7.jpg)

My dad used to commute by bicycle in Saint Louis when my parents were first married.  He was very frustrated by the longitudinal storm drain bars there.  Death traps lying in wait.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on October 29, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 29, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on October 27, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
And I love this one in St Louis

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/3e6d64b8564591c1a40ec98d7250e8f7.jpg)

My dad used to commute by bicycle in Saint Louis when my parents were first married.  He was very frustrated by the longitudinal storm drain bars there.  Death traps lying in wait.

A few of the bridges in Portland, OR are notorious for having signs like this.  When I was in Portland this past August, I bought a coaster with a photo of one of these signs on it!  I wonder if they're for sale online anywhere...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on October 29, 2018, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 29, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
My dad used to commute by bicycle in Saint Louis when my parents were first married.  He was very frustrated by the longitudinal storm drain bars there.  Death traps lying in wait.
When I was in grad school, I was (admittedly, illegally) riding the wrong way (for less than 100 feet!) on this one road that made it a lot easier to get to school from my apartment (this was in Newark, Delaware).  One day, I struck the storm drain and fell off my bike.  This was about a year and a half ago and I still have the bruises!  It took them several months to heal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 29, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on October 29, 2018, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 29, 2018, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on October 27, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
And I love this one in St Louis

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181027/3e6d64b8564591c1a40ec98d7250e8f7.jpg)

My dad used to commute by bicycle in Saint Louis when my parents were first married.  He was very frustrated by the longitudinal storm drain bars there.  Death traps lying in wait.

A few of the bridges in Portland, OR are notorious for having signs like this.  When I was in Portland this past August, I bought a coaster with a photo of one of these signs on it!  I wonder if they're for sale online anywhere...

For future reference, they're generally for streetcar and light rail tracks. Crossing at an acute angle can mean getting your wheel stuck in the running rail and going over the handlebars.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 30, 2018, 01:30:03 PM
From my own shield collection, a CA 99 on a white blank.  This was posted on a connecting road to CA 99 in Fresno:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1782/42193939394_3b317eddcc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27hwYaG)IMG_7686 (https://flic.kr/p/27hwYaG) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 30, 2018, 06:23:09 PM
(https://vgy.me/mCuf69.png)

At least you can get the point across on this one.

[Google Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7525303,-97.0721844,3a,15y,168.79h,90.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-UioG2XMBtOc2UsLtBDgeA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-UioG2XMBtOc2UsLtBDgeA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D343.6107%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)]
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 30, 2018, 10:41:36 PM
Another question; what's the MUTCD's position on oddly-colored crosswalk signal signs?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grant_City,_Staten_Island;_Orange_Cross_Signal_Sign.jpg

Because in some parts of Staten Island, they're orange.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on October 30, 2018, 11:13:13 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 30, 2018, 10:41:36 PM
Another question; what's the MUTCD's position on oddly-colored crosswalk signal signs?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grant_City,_Staten_Island;_Orange_Cross_Signal_Sign.jpg

Because in some parts of Staten Island, they're orange.
When I served on the bike committee in Newark, DE, I remember there was a proposal for salmon-colored bikeway signs, which DelDOT said would be appropriate to use for special signage, in line with MUTCD.  Not sure about ped signs though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on October 30, 2018, 11:18:23 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on October 30, 2018, 11:13:13 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 30, 2018, 10:41:36 PM
Another question; what's the MUTCD's position on oddly-colored crosswalk signal signs?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grant_City,_Staten_Island;_Orange_Cross_Signal_Sign.jpg

Because in some parts of Staten Island, they're orange.
When I served on the bike committee in Newark, DE, I remember there was a proposal for salmon-colored bikeway signs, which DelDOT said would be appropriate to use for special signage, in line with MUTCD.  Not sure about ped signs though.
Wouldnt an odd color make you look at something more often, then lets say the typical yellow or green sign?


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 30, 2018, 11:42:09 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 30, 2018, 10:41:36 PM
Another question; what's the MUTCD's position on oddly-colored crosswalk signal signs?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grant_City,_Staten_Island;_Orange_Cross_Signal_Sign.jpg

Because in some parts of Staten Island, they're orange.
The MUTCD position in a word: No.

Signs like that (the "press button for walk signal" family of signs) are to be white on black as a standard; no options to modify.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 08, 2018, 09:43:55 PM
Found some interesting photos from Hartford that I took a few years ago (2015).  These were in the vicinity of the Connecticut State Library:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HMiSofG.jpg)

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HMiSJIR.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 08, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
With the Bushnell Theater in the background of the last picture. The state capitol is with that lawn BTW. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 08, 2018, 11:08:38 PM
Okay, more odd ones. I suspect this might be acceptable under MUTCD's emergency management classification:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sand_Bags_sign_on_Anderson_Snow_Road;_October_2018.jpg


If not, perhaps it should be.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 08, 2018, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on November 08, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
With the Bushnell Theater in the background of the last picture. The state capitol is with that lawn BTW. :)
Aha...funny thing is even though I lived in Hartford County for 14 years, I never knew where the Bushnell actually was (simply put, I never really went to Hartford much, even though my father worked there).  Only reason I mentioned the State Library was because that was my destination that day.  I do remember the Capitol being in the vicinity though!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 09, 2018, 10:37:33 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 08, 2018, 11:08:38 PM
Okay, more odd ones. I suspect this might be acceptable under MUTCD's emergency management classification:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sand_Bags_sign_on_Anderson_Snow_Road;_October_2018.jpg


If not, perhaps it should be.

That one is probably not even covered by the MUTCD since it's not a traffic control device. If it should be covered by MUTCD, I don't even think the incident management category (black on pink) is appropriate, and should probably be a guide (white on green) or motorist service (white on blue) sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 09, 2018, 12:45:18 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/9107495135/in/photolist-eSNhVa-eSNi1c-dX5SaK/
This one with the missing EAST header that has a place made for it in Lake Mary, FL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
I've learned that one of the major differences between OR and WA is that, in WA, you can enter intersections and turn, or go straight, on a yellow light (yellow and green are the same thing). But in OR, a yellow light means the same thing as red, except that you can go through on yellow only if you physically can't stop. WA has a "permissive" yellow law, while OR has a "restrictive" yellow law.

So far, I'd never actually seen this law signed, but I did find this sign today in OR, which would be illegal in states like WA with permissive yellow laws. Frankly, I think the sign is dumb and should be removed. Slamming on the brakes on yellow is a safety hazard, but is apparently a driver's only recourse at this signal if there's no gaps.

https://goo.gl/apVQzQ

(https://i.imgur.com/oY838Kv.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 10, 2018, 08:22:12 PM
Snow Canyon State Park (unsigned UT 300). I trust that the poop is MUTCD-compliant.

(https://i.imgur.com/36aK9t4.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 10, 2018, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on November 10, 2018, 08:22:12 PM
I trust that the poop is MUTCD-compliant.

Makes me think that the FHWA Series needs to be extended to include emojis. :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
I've learned that one of the major differences between OR and WA is that, in WA, you can enter intersections and turn, or go straight, on a yellow light (yellow and green are the same thing). But in OR, a yellow light means the same thing as red, except that you can go through on yellow only if you physically can't stop. WA has a "permissive" yellow law, while OR has a "restrictive" yellow law.

So far, I'd never actually seen this law signed, but I did find this sign today in OR, which would be illegal in states like WA with permissive yellow laws. Frankly, I think the sign is dumb and should be removed. Slamming on the brakes on yellow is a safety hazard, but is apparently a driver's only recourse at this signal if there's no gaps.

https://goo.gl/apVQzQ

(https://i.imgur.com/oY838Kv.png)

Does that mean you can't sit in the intersection when waiting to make a permissive left? That would be very frustrating.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Does that mean you can't sit in the intersection when waiting to make a permissive left? That would be very frustrating.

In states with that dumb "restricted" yellow law, basically yeah. There's a reason I don't live in a state like Oregon! Such a simple maneuver that should not be illegal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Does that mean you can't sit in the intersection when waiting to make a permissive left? That would be very frustrating.

In states with that dumb "restricted" yellow law, basically yeah. There's a reason I don't live in a state like Oregon! Such a simple maneuver that should not be illegal.

Damn, that could make a big difference at a busy intersection for throughput.

Do you know which other states have this rule? My quick forum/google searching isn't turning up anything.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Does that mean you can't sit in the intersection when waiting to make a permissive left? That would be very frustrating.

In states with that dumb "restricted" yellow law, basically yeah. There's a reason I don't live in a state like Oregon! Such a simple maneuver that should not be illegal.

Damn, that could make a big difference at a busy intersection for throughput.

Do you know which other states have this rule? My quick forum/google searching isn't turning up anything.

This is a PDF prepared by Mats Järlström, an Oregonian whose wife was handed a (IMO) very unjust ticket at a traffic light camera. It lists eight states with restrictive laws:

http://www.jarlstrom.com/PDF/Exhibit_1_FINAL_An_investigation_of_the_ITE_formula_and_its_use_R14.pdf

The states are Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi, Nebraska, New Jersey, Oregon, Virginia, and Wisconsin. In these states, the only difference is that their law specifically requires drivers to stop on yellow if possible. Other states don't require drivers do anything on yellow other than acknowledge its existence.

Weirdly, it is common practice in several of these states to turn from the middle of the intersection. I didn't know it was the rule in Virginia and I do it all the time there (though I drive mostly in DC where it's technically OK).

Edit for clarification: it is legal in all states to enter the intersection to turn left but in some you have to finish the turn before red. Apparently before yellow at that Oregon intersection above.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 11, 2018, 07:17:55 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 08, 2018, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on November 08, 2018, 10:57:29 PM
With the Bushnell Theater in the background of the last picture. The state capitol is with that lawn BTW. :)
Aha...funny thing is even though I lived in Hartford County for 14 years, I never knew where the Bushnell actually was (simply put, I never really went to Hartford much, even though my father worked there).  Only reason I mentioned the State Library was because that was my destination that day.  I do remember the Capitol being in the vicinity though!

The Palace Of Ned Lamont (soon) was directly across the street from you on Capitol Avenue. I went by that and the Bushnell Theater several times on CT Transit's #69 bus.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 12, 2018, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 10, 2018, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on November 10, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
Does that mean you can't sit in the intersection when waiting to make a permissive left? That would be very frustrating.

In states with that dumb "restricted" yellow law, basically yeah. There's a reason I don't live in a state like Oregon! Such a simple maneuver that should not be illegal.

Damn, that could make a big difference at a busy intersection for throughput.

Do you know which other states have this rule? My quick forum/google searching isn't turning up anything.

This is a PDF prepared by Mats Järlström, an Oregonian whose wife was handed a (IMO) very unjust ticket at a traffic light camera. It lists eight states with restrictive laws:

http://www.jarlstrom.com/PDF/Exhibit_1_FINAL_An_investigation_of_the_ITE_formula_and_its_use_R14.pdf

The states are Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi, Nebraska, New Jersey, Oregon, Virginia, and Wisconsin. In these states, the only difference is that their law specifically requires drivers to stop on yellow if possible. Other states don't require drivers do anything on yellow other than acknowledge its existence.

My wife and I were pulled over by a cop in Princeton, MN.  The officer advised us that it was because she had turned left on a yellow light.  I would look up the Minnesota statute online, but their site seems to be down right now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 12, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
I thought yellow was always equivalent to red everywhere, in other words, go only if you can't stop. I never make it a habit to enter an intersection when making a left turn on a green ball at a doghouse unless I see a gap in oncoming traffic. To me a sign like that would just be stating the obvious, and of course I still would make the turn on yellow if I ended up in the intersection when the light turned (what's the alternative?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 12, 2018, 01:18:48 PM
My wife and I were pulled over by a cop in Princeton, MN.  The officer advised us that it was because she had turned left on a yellow light.  I would look up the Minnesota statute online, but their site seems to be down right now.

Sounds like you guys were cheated. MN law, according to that PDF, indicates that yellow = warning of red light, not that you must stop.

Quote from: bzakharin on November 12, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
I thought yellow was always equivalent to red everywhere, in other words, go only if you can't stop. I never make it a habit to enter an intersection when making a left turn on a green ball at a doghouse unless I see a gap in oncoming traffic. To me a sign like that would just be stating the obvious, and of course I still would make the turn on yellow if I ended up in the intersection when the light turned (what's the alternative?)

No no no, yellow in most states = warning of red light, not that you must stop. Drivers Ed often teaches drivers to stop on yellow if possible, but (in most states) you are under no legal obligation to do so. Your only legal obligation is that you don't exceed the speed limit to make the yellow light.

Are you ever honked at for not pulling forward? There's always a gap at the end when the light turns yellow (and then red). In 42 states and DC (and throughout Canada), this is a legal (and practiced) maneuver.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 12, 2018, 02:48:29 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/wqDhXacsQYN2
The interstate shields the way they are arranged specifically the I-95 shield.  Of course these will become history when NYCDOT makes I-895 (now officially NY 895) an arterial.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2018, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 12, 2018, 02:33:40 PM
In essence, I think Minnesota's statutes leave a yellow light in no man's land:  it means the laws governing a green light have expired, but also that the laws governing a red light haven't come into force yet.

Ahh yes, thanks for pulling this up. But, I don't agree with your assessment.

The law in most (all?) states with the permissive yellow law has this line: "related green movement is being terminated". Note the word "being", not "has been". In effect, the yellow is indicating the green phase is being terminated, not that the green phase has been terminated and now means something else.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 13, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Holy banners: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0107381,-75.7309172,3a,75y,108.49h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTNIVqIjSsy_XWUp16G99Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on November 13, 2018, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 12, 2018, 02:33:40 PM

In essence, I think Minnesota's statutes leave a yellow light in no man's land:  it means the laws governing a green light have expired, but also that the laws governing a red light haven't come into force yet.
No, if you know how to read laws, this means that the prior conditions apply until a red light is displayed.  This is further reinforced by the language of sub ii:

Quote
(ii) Pedestrians facing a circular yellow signal, unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal as provided in subdivision 6, are thereby advised that there is insufficient time to cross the roadway before a red indication is shown and no pedestrian shall then start to cross the roadway.

In sub ii, the law makes it clear that there's an additional and exceptional condition that applies to yellows for pedestrians: no entering the intersection.  Under guidelines of statutory interpretation, this additional application of language has two effects.  One, it shouldn't be treated as surplussage, i.e., surplussage is the idea that legislature simply added the language to sub ii even though it supposedly restates something that the prior text of the law already required.  If the legislature in sub i intended that a yellow meant the movement was immediately terminated for all, then it wouldn't have added language specifying that the movement could not be begun for pedestrians.

The second canon of statutory construction is that the inclusion of disparate language in one part of a statute but not other parts should be interpreted to mean that the legislature intended a contrary obligation from the intent of the statute in the part where the disparate language was included.  This means that a negative inference should be drawn from the exclusion of language from one statutory provision that is included in other provisions of the same statute.

So where the legislature says in one part of the statute, "this class of persons may not start into an intersection on yellow,"  but omits that language as to drivers, the inference is that the omission was intentional and that the legislature intended a contrary obligation for drivers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 13, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2018, 02:07:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 12, 2018, 01:18:48 PM
My wife and I were pulled over by a cop in Princeton, MN.  The officer advised us that it was because she had turned left on a yellow light.  I would look up the Minnesota statute online, but their site seems to be down right now.

Sounds like you guys were cheated. MN law, according to that PDF, indicates that yellow = warning of red light, not that you must stop.

Quote from: bzakharin on November 12, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
I thought yellow was always equivalent to red everywhere, in other words, go only if you can't stop. I never make it a habit to enter an intersection when making a left turn on a green ball at a doghouse unless I see a gap in oncoming traffic. To me a sign like that would just be stating the obvious, and of course I still would make the turn on yellow if I ended up in the intersection when the light turned (what's the alternative?)

No no no, yellow in most states = warning of red light, not that you must stop. Drivers Ed often teaches drivers to stop on yellow if possible, but (in most states) you are under no legal obligation to do so. Your only legal obligation is that you don't exceed the speed limit to make the yellow light.

Are you ever honked at for not pulling forward? There's always a gap at the end when the light turns yellow (and then red). In 42 states and DC (and throughout Canada), this is a legal (and practiced) maneuver.
No, I am not ever honked at as far as I know. And at least NJ's law seems to make it clear that my belief about yellow is at least correct here (NJSA 39:4-105):
Quote
Amber, or yellow, when shown alone following green means traffic to stop before entering the intersection or nearest crosswalk, unless when the amber appears the vehicle or street car is so close to the intersection that with suitable brakes it cannot be stopped in safety
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2018, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 13, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
No, I am not ever honked at as far as I know. And at least NJ's law seems to make it clear that my belief about yellow is at least correct here (NJSA 39:4-105):

But that law is also quite clear that you cannot enter on yellow or red unless you physically cannot help it. If you're already in the intersection, having entered on green, you should be in the clear.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on November 14, 2018, 05:49:20 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 13, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Holy banners: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0107381,-75.7309172,3a,75y,108.49h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTNIVqIjSsy_XWUp16G99Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I will see your US 30 ABT East and raise you US 79:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7593811,-93.0752517,0a,75y,201.38h,89.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgFkt8MPld-omvJEmUqTIDw!2e0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on November 14, 2018, 05:51:37 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 14, 2018, 05:49:20 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 13, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Holy banners: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0107381,-75.7309172,3a,75y,108.49h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTNIVqIjSsy_XWUp16G99Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I will see your US 30 ABT East and raise you US 79:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7593811,-93.0752517,0a,75y,201.38h,89.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgFkt8MPld-omvJEmUqTIDw!2e0

The US 30 assembly has both more signs (6 instead of 5) and more banners (3 instead of 2).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on November 14, 2018, 06:24:17 AM
Virginia gets in on this too...

https://goo.gl/maps/Vv8TWyhmoRs

This is the 2nd generation of this 4-banner posting...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 14, 2018, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2018, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 13, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
No, I am not ever honked at as far as I know. And at least NJ's law seems to make it clear that my belief about yellow is at least correct here (NJSA 39:4-105):

But that law is also quite clear that you cannot enter on yellow or red unless you physically cannot help it. If you're already in the intersection, having entered on green, you should be in the clear.
Well, yeah, I wouldn't expect to b required to stay in the intersection and prevent the traffic that has green to move. The question is, can I enter the intersection on green ball without a reasonable expectation of being able to finish my turn before yellow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 14, 2018, 05:49:20 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 13, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Holy banners: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0107381,-75.7309172,3a,75y,108.49h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTNIVqIjSsy_XWUp16G99Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I will see your US 30 ABT East and raise you US 79:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7593811,-93.0752517,0a,75y,201.38h,89.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgFkt8MPld-omvJEmUqTIDw!2e0

Questions:

(1) For the US 79 situation [JCT|NORTH|TRUCK|BY-PASS|US 79], I see on the map a 79 Bypass, but is there a separate truck route for the bypass? Or are they calling it a "Truck By-Pass" and unnecessarily using two banners?

(2) For the US 30 situation [ALTERNATE|TRUCK|EAST|BUSINESS|US 30], this appears to be posted on US 30. I see a through-town 30 Business route on the map, but no other US 30 child routes in the area. Is there a truck route (and this is the alternate to that), or have they needlessly slapped on a couple extra banners here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on November 14, 2018, 10:54:44 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM

(2) For the US 30 situation [ALTERNATE|TRUCK|EAST|BUSINESS|US 30], this appears to be posted on US 30. I see a through-town 30 Business route on the map, but no other US 30 child routes in the area. Is there a truck route (and this is the alternate to that), or have they needlessly slapped on a couple extra banners here?

It should be a 2-bannered route; the third banner is extraneous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on November 14, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
(2) For the US 30 situation [ALTERNATE|TRUCK|EAST|BUSINESS|US 30], this appears to be posted on US 30. I see a through-town 30 Business route on the map, but no other US 30 child routes in the area. Is there a truck route (and this is the alternate to that), or have they needlessly slapped on a couple extra banners here?
In this area, US 30 is the main/bypass highway.  Business US 30/Lancaster Ave. is the older local roadway that was once US 30 prior to the bypass/highway being built.  The multi-bannered sign serves as a truck detour for Business US 30 due to relatively-recently imposed (no more than 10 years ago) weight prohibitions imposed on some older overpasses (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0057094,-75.7053813,3a,75y,57.38h,86.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skNaOeQjWT0-oSBKPaLSJ1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along Business US 30/Lancaster Ave.

That said, the multi-bannered signs for the detour(s) are overkill for sure.  IMHO, LGS'/unisigns would've been a better signing approach here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 14, 2018, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 14, 2018, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2018, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 13, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
No, I am not ever honked at as far as I know. And at least NJ's law seems to make it clear that my belief about yellow is at least correct here (NJSA 39:4-105):
But that law is also quite clear that you cannot enter on yellow or red unless you physically cannot help it. If you're already in the intersection, having entered on green, you should be in the clear.
Well, yeah, I wouldn't expect to b required to stay in the intersection and prevent the traffic that has green to move. The question is, can I enter the intersection on green ball without a reasonable expectation of being able to finish my turn before yellow.

I guess I can't be sure. Where I drive (WA, BC mostly), once you've passed the stop line, the signal itself isn't relevant. The only expectation is that you eventually finish your turn, whenever that moment arrives (typically after oncoming traffic stops).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 14, 2018, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 14, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
(2) For the US 30 situation [ALTERNATE|TRUCK|EAST|BUSINESS|US 30], this appears to be posted on US 30. I see a through-town 30 Business route on the map, but no other US 30 child routes in the area. Is there a truck route (and this is the alternate to that), or have they needlessly slapped on a couple extra banners here?
In this area, US 30 is the main/bypass highway.  Business US 30/Lancaster Ave. is the older local roadway that was once US 30 prior to the bypass/highway being built.  The multi-bannered sign serves as a truck detour for Business US 30 due to relatively-recently imposed (no more than 10 years ago) weight prohibitions imposed on some older overpasses (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0057094,-75.7053813,3a,75y,57.38h,86.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skNaOeQjWT0-oSBKPaLSJ1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along Business US 30/Lancaster Ave.

That said, the multi-bannered signs for the detour(s) are overkill for sure.  IMHO, LGS'/unisigns would've been a better signing approach here.
Also doesn't PennDOT typically designate "Truck" routes as "Alternate Truck"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on November 14, 2018, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 14, 2018, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 14, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
(2) For the US 30 situation [ALTERNATE|TRUCK|EAST|BUSINESS|US 30], this appears to be posted on US 30. I see a through-town 30 Business route on the map, but no other US 30 child routes in the area. Is there a truck route (and this is the alternate to that), or have they needlessly slapped on a couple extra banners here?
In this area, US 30 is the main/bypass highway.  Business US 30/Lancaster Ave. is the older local roadway that was once US 30 prior to the bypass/highway being built.  The multi-bannered sign serves as a truck detour for Business US 30 due to relatively-recently imposed (no more than 10 years ago) weight prohibitions imposed on some older overpasses (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0057094,-75.7053813,3a,75y,57.38h,86.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skNaOeQjWT0-oSBKPaLSJ1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along Business US 30/Lancaster Ave.

That said, the multi-bannered signs for the detour(s) are overkill for sure.  IMHO, LGS'/unisigns would've been a better signing approach here.
Also doesn't PennDOT typically designate "Truck" routes as "Alternate Truck"?

"Alternate Truck" routes are a relatively new thing. Regular Truck routes are posted for much stricter weight restrictions, height clearances, posted truck restrictions, or anything that prevents all or almost all trucks from using a route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on November 14, 2018, 05:29:23 PM
Quote from: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on November 14, 2018, 05:49:20 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 13, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
Holy banners: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0107381,-75.7309172,3a,75y,108.49h,78.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfTNIVqIjSsy_XWUp16G99Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I will see your US 30 ABT East and raise you US 79:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7593811,-93.0752517,0a,75y,201.38h,89.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgFkt8MPld-omvJEmUqTIDw!2e0

Questions:

(1) For the US 79 situation [JCT|NORTH|TRUCK|BY-PASS|US 79], I see on the map a 79 Bypass, but is there a separate truck route for the bypass? Or are they calling it a "Truck By-Pass" and unnecessarily using two banners?

I believe it is saying, "Bypass Homer, especially if you drive a big truck." There is no separate truck route for the bypass. But it still amazes me how many truckers still drive through Homer & go around the courthouse square. The bypass opened in 2015 IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jemacedo9 on November 14, 2018, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 14, 2018, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 14, 2018, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 14, 2018, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 14, 2018, 10:50:11 AM
(2) For the US 30 situation [ALTERNATE|TRUCK|EAST|BUSINESS|US 30], this appears to be posted on US 30. I see a through-town 30 Business route on the map, but no other US 30 child routes in the area. Is there a truck route (and this is the alternate to that), or have they needlessly slapped on a couple extra banners here?
In this area, US 30 is the main/bypass highway.  Business US 30/Lancaster Ave. is the older local roadway that was once US 30 prior to the bypass/highway being built.  The multi-bannered sign serves as a truck detour for Business US 30 due to relatively-recently imposed (no more than 10 years ago) weight prohibitions imposed on some older overpasses (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0057094,-75.7053813,3a,75y,57.38h,86.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skNaOeQjWT0-oSBKPaLSJ1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along Business US 30/Lancaster Ave.

That said, the multi-bannered signs for the detour(s) are overkill for sure.  IMHO, LGS'/unisigns would've been a better signing approach here.
Also doesn't PennDOT typically designate "Truck" routes as "Alternate Truck"?

"Alternate Truck" routes are a relatively new thing. Regular Truck routes are posted for much stricter weight restrictions, height clearances, posted truck restrictions, or anything that prevents all or almost all trucks from using a route.

A few years ago, PA reduced the weight posting of many bridges before Act 89 was passed raising the gas taxes. The official reasoning was that without funding, the lowered posting was in an effort to lengthen the remaining life of those bridges by lowering the loads on those bridges.  Unoffically, it seemed like a publicity stunt...

...but anyway, I might be wrong here, but I thought official truck routes had to be legislated. In order go get around that, when the bridge postings were lowered, PennDOT signed "Alternate Truck" routes instead of official ones.

The US 30 example...the bridge on Business US 30 over the Brandywine Creek has a weight posting, so the US 30 freeway acts as the Alternate Truck route for Business US 30 AND the Alternate Truck route for US 322 since that is multiplexed on the same bridge.  (If anyone has a definitive answer, feel free to correct me here).

That is not to be confused with the Truck Detour for US 322 because of the low clearance for the Amtrak/SEPTA underpass a few blocks further to the east.  That Truck Detour follows US 30, PA 100, and US 202.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 15, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
Ginormous Georgia Route 72 shield...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/GA72_East_-_Huge_Sign_-_Comer.jpg/800px-GA72_East_-_Huge_Sign_-_Comer.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 17, 2018, 09:01:27 PM
Here's an ugly one on westbound NY 25A approaching NY 110.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8713196,-73.4257614,3a,75y,299.79h,90.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sov9dth7j01sK4J-Igx2ABA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

I didn't see that in October, but then again I didn't drive west on Main Street there.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 22, 2018, 12:57:00 AM
Quote from: formulanone on November 15, 2018, 08:39:34 PM
Ginormous Georgia Route 72 shield...

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/GA72_East_-_Huge_Sign_-_Comer.jpg/800px-GA72_East_-_Huge_Sign_-_Comer.jpg)

Here's some for VA 33 where a roundabout was recently constructed along its route in Richmond,  though not quite as large as your GA 72 example.

Image from GSV:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181122/d2db19e36bdc2a797ab36c0710526ac5.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on November 22, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on July 01, 2018, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 01, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on July 01, 2018, 06:56:04 AM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg)
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

What does this sign mean? Drive around manhole cover at 17 mph?  :eyebrow:  :hmmm:

I'm assuming there is a traffic calming island in the middle of the road.
Actually, these are traffic circle (roundabout) signs, which I think makes them even worse. I should've made that clearer, sorry
I believe I read a traffic study that some signs use odd numbers because it increases driver awareness


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on November 22, 2018, 02:21:06 PM
Saw this sign, thought it was strange: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181122/7082cecc44779a79ce99c025144de9cc.jpg)


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on November 22, 2018, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 22, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
Quote from: mrpablue on July 01, 2018, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 01, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Quote from: cjk374 on July 01, 2018, 06:56:04 AM
Quote from: mrpablue on June 30, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/29246135938_cbd05406c6_z.jpg)
There are at least four of these about a mile or two away from the Caltrans building in Sacramento. They all say 17 mph.

What does this sign mean? Drive around manhole cover at 17 mph?  :eyebrow:  :hmmm:

I'm assuming there is a traffic calming island in the middle of the road.
Actually, these are traffic circle (roundabout) signs, which I think makes them even worse. I should've made that clearer, sorry
I believe I read a traffic study that some signs use odd numbers because it increases driver awareness


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15 and 25 are odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 23, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
Quote from: 1 on November 22, 2018, 04:58:18 PM
15 and 25 are odd.

"Odd" as in strange, not the mathematical term.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 23, 2018, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 22, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
I believe I read a traffic study that some signs use odd numbers because it increases driver awareness

It does work somewhat initially and for unfamiliar users; but in residential areas where you tend to see these treatments, the surprise value wears off quickly for most users and it doesn't continue to have a significant effect.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 23, 2018, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 22, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
I believe I read a traffic study that some signs use odd numbers because it increases driver awareness

It does work somewhat initially and for unfamiliar users; but in residential areas where you tend to see these treatments, the surprise value wears off quickly for most users and it doesn't continue to have a significant effect.

Honestly, I would probably be less likely to obey an odd number like 17 mph.  I've seen enough signs like that posted in parking lots and driveways that my mind associates them with non-enforcement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 24, 2018, 12:04:41 AM
Picked up a G28-1 spec California State Route 14 shield for my garage collection, I always thought they were odd:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/45110139825_bcdbde0aca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bJefXt)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2bJefXt) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 25, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 24, 2018, 12:04:41 AM
Picked up a G28-1 spec California State Route 14 shield for my garage collection, I always thought they were odd:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/45110139825_bcdbde0aca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bJefXt)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2bJefXt) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Looks like a movie prop where they filmed a flick pertaining to California in another state.

Or an overhead sign, naturally.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on November 25, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
DDOT doubled "don'ted"  a sign, I was looking at NACTO.com at the bike design and noticed this sign instructing drivers to block the box, even though I know they mean not to block it, it's pretty funny: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181125/a8714bbd7a89252da8a395c5654a048d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181125/f8442561b873b80bb945840986555d33.jpg)


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 25, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 25, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
DDOT doubled "don'ted"  a sign, I was looking at NACTO.com at the bike design and noticed this sign instructing drivers to block the box, even though I know they mean not to block it, it's pretty funny.
I feel like it would just make more sense to not include the "no" symbol on that sign.

Or just make it like a Do Not Enter sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 25, 2018, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 25, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
DDOT doubled "don'ted"  a sign...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181125/f8442561b873b80bb945840986555d33.jpg)

Haha.  If this is a common enough occurrence, I'd advocate for a thread called "Reverse Reverse Psychology."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 25, 2018, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: formulanone on November 25, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 24, 2018, 12:04:41 AM
Picked up a G28-1 spec California State Route 14 shield for my garage collection, I always thought they were odd:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/45110139825_bcdbde0aca_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bJefXt)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2bJefXt) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Looks like a movie prop where they filmed a flick pertaining to California in another state.

Or an overhead sign, naturally.

Actually the G28-1 is intended for overhead/BGS signs.  For whatever reason an actual cut-out shield gets produced and some actually make it onto highways like this CA 227:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/806/41220742592_1f682a04cb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25Nx5Eu)227CAf (https://flic.kr/p/25Nx5Eu) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 26, 2018, 01:33:40 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 25, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 25, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
DDOT doubled "don'ted"  a sign, I was looking at NACTO.com at the bike design and noticed this sign instructing drivers to block the box, even though I know they mean not to block it, it's pretty funny.
I feel like it would just make more sense to not include the "no" symbol on that sign.

Or just make it like a Do Not Enter sign.

But "Don't block the box" and "Do not enter" mean very different things.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 26, 2018, 01:43:20 PM
Found this the other day on Iowa 44 about nine miles west of Guthrie Center. Anyone know of any other lesser-known divides that are marked with prominent signs?

(https://i.imgur.com/NQh14zK.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 26, 2018, 02:10:02 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 26, 2018, 01:43:20 PM
Found this the other day on Iowa 44 about nine miles west of Guthrie Center. Anyone know of any other lesser-known divides that are marked with prominent signs?

Unaweep Divide (https://goo.gl/maps/4GE9HSbubV92), western Colorado.  It's signed like a mountain pass, but it barely tops 7000 feet elevation and is only noteworthy because two creeks flow out of the canyon in opposite directions.  If it weren't for the sign, you'd never know there was a divide there.  The topographic map is, well, less than dramatic (keep in mind that the highway follows the canyon floor for miles through here.

(https://i.imgur.com/o6zOrsg.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on November 26, 2018, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 26, 2018, 01:33:40 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 25, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 25, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
DDOT doubled "don'ted"  a sign, I was looking at NACTO.com at the bike design and noticed this sign instructing drivers to block the box, even though I know they mean not to block it, it's pretty funny.
I feel like it would just make more sense to not include the "no" symbol on that sign.

Or just make it like a Do Not Enter sign.

But "Don't block the box" and "Do not enter" mean very different things.
Here's the street view: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9169758,-77.0364136,3a,35.7y,113.93h,104.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skB7qf0GLsnZiNuNHrGA3Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 26, 2018, 09:50:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 26, 2018, 02:10:02 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 26, 2018, 01:43:20 PM
Found this the other day on Iowa 44 about nine miles west of Guthrie Center. Anyone know of any other lesser-known divides that are marked with prominent signs?

Unaweep Divide (https://goo.gl/maps/4GE9HSbubV92), western Colorado.  It's signed like a mountain pass, but it barely tops 7000 feet elevation and is only noteworthy because two creeks flow out of the canyon in opposite directions.  If it weren't for the sign, you'd never know there was a divide there.  The topographic map is, well, less than dramatic (keep in mind that the highway follows the canyon floor for miles through here.

(https://i.imgur.com/o6zOrsg.jpg)

Oh yeah...CO-141 between US-50 and Gateway.  With all the passes over the Continental Divide, I'm surprised someone tried to cash in on a lesser known divide in Colorado.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 27, 2018, 09:22:04 AM
The divide between Missouri River and Hudson Bay is marked on I-94 in North Dakota.  I think this is technically considered a continental divide between the Atlantic and Arctic Oceans.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1820/42215719230_e5661c8573_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27jsAy7)
IMG_4429 (https://flic.kr/p/27jsAy7) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 27, 2018, 09:35:28 AM
Interesting that they went with "Continental Divide" and not something more specific like "Missouri — Hudson Bay" or "Atlantic — Arctic" divide, because I feel like a lot of people would confuse that with the more famous Continental Divide. I know for me, it'd take a bit of thinking before I figured out which divide it meant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 27, 2018, 09:37:32 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 27, 2018, 09:35:28 AM
Interesting that they went with "Continental Divide" and not something more specific like "Missouri — Hudson Bay" or "Atlantic — Arctic" divide, because I feel like a lot of people would confuse that with the more famous Continental Divide. I know for me, it'd take a bit of thinking before I figured out which divide it meant.

I know, right?  On that trip I was heading westbound wondering, "uhhh I'm pretty sure I haven't gotten to the Idaho/Montana border yet..."  I had to look it up!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on November 27, 2018, 11:44:15 AM
Granted it's not a DOT sign, but this is on US 550 in Colorado:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1830/28434780957_e237037129_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KjFFJ6)

Water falling on opposite sides of this divide will eventually rejoin, where the San Juan River empties into the Colorado at Lake Powell in Utah.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on November 27, 2018, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 26, 2018, 01:43:20 PM
Found this the other day on Iowa 44 about nine miles west of Guthrie Center. Anyone know of any other lesser-known divides that are marked with prominent signs?

(https://i.imgur.com/NQh14zK.jpg)

On I-75 in Ohio, around mile marker 106 there are.  Going north, it says "Entering Lake Erie Watershed."  Going south, "Entering Ohio River Watershed"

One would cross the same divide on I-71 and I-77 in Ohio, but I have not travelled those recently enough to know if they are marked.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 28, 2018, 09:10:18 AM
Um...what is this ugly ground mounted sign doing right next to a perfectly good overhead? https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0268249,-78.5135349,3a,19.6y,206.73h,92.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7emBnv7NkRnoSlwM53Yv5g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0268249,-78.5135349,3a,19.6y,206.73h,92.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7emBnv7NkRnoSlwM53Yv5g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 28, 2018, 09:43:00 AM
I was reading an NPR article about the migrant caravan in Tijuana, when I came across this photo of the San Ysidro border crossing.

What the heck is up with the CURVE warning sign being text rather than a symbol?

(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/26/gettyimages-1065203700_wide-991afe00a8a31e371ea17a6c5e5b7e2448281b6e-s800-c85.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 28, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I just ran across this sign on GSV.  It appears to be directions to people's homes, for all to see.

https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82 (https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 28, 2018, 11:37:28 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 28, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I just ran across this sign on GSV.  It appears to be directions to people's homes, for all to see.

https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82 (https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82)

There's something similar in Burkes Garden, Va.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on November 28, 2018, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 28, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I just ran across this sign on GSV.  It appears to be directions to people's homes, for all to see.

https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82 (https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82)

Good god that is a lot of single men.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 29, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on November 28, 2018, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 28, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I just ran across this sign on GSV.  It appears to be directions to people's homes, for all to see.

https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82 (https://goo.gl/maps/VM6sBbRkWE82)

Good god that is a lot of single men.

More likely that the wives' names just aren't shown for most.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 29, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
Does any place outside of New Castle, DE post welcome signs like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6649153,-75.6377598,3a,75y,16.99h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7igb8XUU0f9eLTjSD4Qquw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Essentially welcoming you to places you're not in yet
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 29, 2018, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 29, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
Does any place outside of New Castle, DE post welcome signs like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6649153,-75.6377598,3a,75y,16.99h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7igb8XUU0f9eLTjSD4Qquw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Essentially welcoming you to places you're not in yet
They're throughout Delaware (typically marking neighborhoods or subdivisions).  This is one in Dover: https://goo.gl/maps/Psbc14YU3qG2
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 05, 2018, 07:56:33 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on November 25, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
DDOT doubled "don'ted"  a sign, I was looking at NACTO.com at the bike design and noticed this sign instructing drivers to block the box, even though I know they mean not to block it, it's pretty funny: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181125/a8714bbd7a89252da8a395c5654a048d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181125/f8442561b873b80bb945840986555d33.jpg)


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Personally, I'm just busy focusing on the fact that bicycle signals are included here.

I'd like to see more of these. If Bruce B. Downs Boulevard doesn't have any of these, they should.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 05, 2018, 08:31:03 PM
Bike signals are fairly common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

(https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 06, 2018, 07:59:45 PM
Isn't that One Way shape standard in California, or was at one time?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 06, 2018, 07:59:45 PM
Isn't that One Way shape standard in California, or was at one time?

That is my understanding, yes. Not anymore, I don't think. Checking out a few newer freeway ramps, though the signs are apparently rather rare, they are all rectangular without cutout edges.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on December 06, 2018, 08:13:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

(https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg)

If the infrastructure is of an uncommon specialty, perhaps the sign was specified by a contractor or designer of Californian origin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on December 06, 2018, 08:18:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 28, 2018, 09:43:00 AM
I was reading an NPR article about the migrant caravan in Tijuana, when I came across this photo of the San Ysidro border crossing.

What the heck is up with the CURVE warning sign being text rather than a symbol?

(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/11/26/gettyimages-1065203700_wide-991afe00a8a31e371ea17a6c5e5b7e2448281b6e-s800-c85.jpg)
So if someone was rushing thru, they wouldn't know which way the curve was going & probably crash.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on December 06, 2018, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 29, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
Does any place outside of New Castle, DE post welcome signs like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6649153,-75.6377598,3a,75y,16.99h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7igb8XUU0f9eLTjSD4Qquw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Essentially welcoming you to places you're not in yet
Dont disrespect our lovable blue signs, that dont get updated or replaced for many years.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: pdx-wanderer on December 06, 2018, 08:50:35 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181207/3065f3daf73cc1e433b265521e723a36.jpg)

A different take on one of Oregon's "Speed 55" signs. (I-84 exit 216)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 07, 2018, 02:04:00 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on December 06, 2018, 08:13:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg

If the infrastructure is of an uncommon specialty, perhaps the sign was specified by a contractor or designer of Californian origin.

It's possible. I'm not sure who runs military traffic engineering departments, but they easily could have been from CA and were just doing this as a sort of salute to the "old ways".

JBLM (as I'm sure many military bases do) has a ton of weird signs. Fluorescent yellow green for height restrictions, "STOP THIS LANE *ARROW*" without the words (just the arrow), the Transport font...I think there's more. More than a few "Tank Crossing" signs too, but those aren't weird.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 07, 2018, 08:25:33 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on December 06, 2018, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 29, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
Does any place outside of New Castle, DE post welcome signs like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6649153,-75.6377598,3a,75y,16.99h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7igb8XUU0f9eLTjSD4Qquw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Essentially welcoming you to places you're not in yet
Dont disrespect our lovable blue signs, that dont get updated or replaced for many years.
Here's an oddball one I saw in the Cheswold area last weekend. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2043644,-75.5686122,3a,34.1y,91.71h,90.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-tgmNximXHE4sbut4p56Kw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on December 07, 2018, 08:33:40 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on December 07, 2018, 08:25:33 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on December 06, 2018, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on November 29, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
Does any place outside of New Castle, DE post welcome signs like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6649153,-75.6377598,3a,75y,16.99h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7igb8XUU0f9eLTjSD4Qquw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Essentially welcoming you to places you're not in yet
Dont disrespect our lovable blue signs, that dont get updated or replaced for many years.
Here's an oddball one I saw in the Cheswold area last weekend. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2043644,-75.5686122,3a,34.1y,91.71h,90.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-tgmNximXHE4sbut4p56Kw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Thats the new ones, I guess all the extra color is not necessary anymore.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 07, 2018, 12:37:43 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 07, 2018, 02:04:00 AM
JBLM (as I'm sure many military bases do) has a ton of weird signs. Fluorescent yellow green for height restrictions, "STOP THIS LANE *ARROW*" without the words (just the arrow), the Transport font...I think there's more. More than a few "Tank Crossing" signs too, but those aren't weird.

From what I remember, all the signs on Tinker Air Force Base in Midwest City, OK are brown with Helvetica. That may just be an Air Force thing, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 07, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
Another sign from Grant City, Staten Island:

https://goo.gl/maps/xiaSgqmgg222

I don't think we have to even bother to ask if this thing is MUTCD-compliant.

:-P

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 07, 2018, 01:57:57 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 07, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
Another sign from Grant City, Staten Island:

https://goo.gl/maps/xiaSgqmgg222

I don't think we have to even bother to ask if this thing is MUTCD-compliant.

:-P
I think it's listed on page 104 of the 2009 Federal MUTCD.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 07, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
Browsing around GSV, I found this holy sign in Chiapas (https://goo.gl/maps/Wy4d2Rd7wRz).  Never seen anything like it before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 07, 2018, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on December 07, 2018, 01:57:57 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 07, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
Another sign from Grant City, Staten Island:

https://goo.gl/maps/xiaSgqmgg222

I don't think we have to even bother to ask if this thing is MUTCD-compliant.

I think it's listed on page 104 of the 2009 Federal MUTCD.

Indeed it is.  W16-19P, to be precise.  How did I not catch that before now?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 10, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 07, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
Browsing around GSV, I found this holy sign in Chiapas (https://goo.gl/maps/Wy4d2Rd7wRz).  Never seen anything like it before.

Well, it just so happens I saw another sign like that just two days later, while browsing some pictures on Eric Stuve's flickr site.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/4845840208/in/photolist-8odcoA-8odct7-8odcj3-8oa2Cn-8odca9-8oa2k2 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/4845840208/in/photolist-8odcoA-8odct7-8odcj3-8oa2Cn-8odca9-8oa2k2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on December 10, 2018, 04:33:20 PM
Only thing I can think of is that the holes are a windbreak.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 10, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 07, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
Browsing around GSV, I found this holy sign in Chiapas (https://goo.gl/maps/Wy4d2Rd7wRz).  Never seen anything like it before.

I've seen some span wire-mounted signs with similar holes, although not large guide signs. Usually scattered around Ohio, but I can't think of anywhere else I've seen them.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4705/26452675728_a6ef143982_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GiwSU1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 10, 2018, 06:47:27 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1734/27831629797_0f6ff0d0d8_z_d.jpg)
Burn Ban Zabcikville, Texas
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 11, 2018, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 10, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 07, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
Browsing around GSV, I found this holy sign in Chiapas (https://goo.gl/maps/Wy4d2Rd7wRz).  Never seen anything like it before.

I've seen some span wire-mounted signs with similar holes, although not large guide signs. Usually scattered around Ohio, but I can't think of anywhere else I've seen them.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4705/26452675728_a6ef143982_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GiwSU1)
Hmmm, I think I've seen those before, they alternate red when a truck is leaving. They are smart, kinda like the HAWK signal. Anyways I think we are talking about Signs not signals, but we should start a topic for weird Signals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 11, 2018, 11:59:13 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 11, 2018, 10:40:17 AM...we should start a topic for weird Signals.

Try this thread for "Frankensignals (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7389.0)" or this one for "Strangest Traffic Lights (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15120.0)".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 11, 2018, 04:02:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

(https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg)
Just saw this in an episode of the Office


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 11, 2018, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 11, 2018, 04:02:28 PM
Just saw this in an episode of the Office

The Office was filmed in Van Nuys, near Los Angeles. Not sure how many people realize this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 12, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

(https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg)
Just saw this in an episode of the Office


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 12, 2018, 01:01:21 PM
Code Select

ECHO OFF
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on December 12, 2018, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 07, 2018, 03:36:16 PM
Browsing around GSV, I found this holy sign in Chiapas (https://goo.gl/maps/Wy4d2Rd7wRz).  Never seen anything like it before.

Maine has a lot of "holy" signage throughout the state. I've mostly seen it done on overhead white lane assignment signs (https://goo.gl/maps/sRVrFFowtPP2), but it's made its way onto smaller green guide signs as well, such as this case along ME 3 in Ellsworth.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8373/8597391865_1878015200_z.jpg)

In a similar vein, these span-wire mounted guide signs in Conway, New Hampshire have slats cut out for wind resistance.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8432/7630812714_104f9da45d_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dcharlie on December 12, 2018, 03:34:33 PM
What's the purpose of the holes?  Decreased wind resistance?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 12, 2018, 04:29:52 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on December 12, 2018, 03:34:33 PM
What's the purpose of the holes?  Decreased wind resistance?
Yep. Same reason why signal backplates usually have the slats around the edges.

You don't see it too often on overhead signs though. But especially if signs are hung from span wire, it probably helps decrease likelihood of sustained winds tensing up the wires (sure to the signs acting like sails) and yanking the wires out of the supporting masts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 13, 2018, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 12, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg

Just saw this in an episode of the Office

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/96f52f48cc7f48ea296400fea43aeba0/tumblr_nrivp8dECh1u5g4cmo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 13, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 13, 2018, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 12, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg

Just saw this in an episode of the Office

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/96f52f48cc7f48ea296400fea43aeba0/tumblr_nrivp8dECh1u5g4cmo1_250.gif)
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 13, 2018, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 13, 2018, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 12, 2018, 07:26:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 06, 2018, 05:39:41 PM
Not unique in CA, but very unique elsewhere I think.

A one-way sign on Joint Base Lewis-McChord (Fort Lewis precisely) in Washington State with a cutout arrowhead. Pretty new.

JBLM also has a bunch of signs in Clearview, and even a few in Transport (https://goo.gl/4nXdYM) (the UK font), so I guess this isn't crazy for them.

https://i.imgur.com/VsGelFW.jpg

Just saw this in an episode of the Office

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/96f52f48cc7f48ea296400fea43aeba0/tumblr_nrivp8dECh1u5g4cmo1_250.gif)
This may be one of the greatest GIF applications in history.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 13, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
I didn't even mean to use an Office gif. Stanley just happened to say what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 13, 2018, 07:03:25 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 13, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
I didn't even mean to use an Office gif. Stanley just happened to say what I was thinking.
Lol, I was going to attach an image but my phone produced this: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181214/cf83160c5bd0339286122b089237b408.jpg)


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 13, 2018, 07:04:14 PM
Honestly Jake, those signs are IMO better than the rectangle one way signs, especially for places with high sun glare.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 13, 2018, 10:01:03 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 13, 2018, 07:03:25 PM
Lol, I was going to attach an image but my phone produced this: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181214/cf83160c5bd0339286122b089237b408.jpg

Screenshotted copyrighted videos usually come out as black. Was that the case?

Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 13, 2018, 07:04:14 PM
Honestly Jake, those signs are IMO better than the rectangle one way signs, especially for places with high sun glare.

I agree, I like all manner of cut-out signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on December 14, 2018, 02:56:05 AM
Seen in Waitsburg, WA on Google Maps:

(https://i.imgur.com/NVbDpOH.png)

WA 124 continues west through town but makes a short detour because of a shift in the street grid. The next shield is only a few feet away.

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2701788,-118.1548398,3a,89.3y,294.3h,88.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz35thrFqYecaUAknT324Iw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 14, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
WA-112 near Pillar Point Park, Clallam County: http://bit.ly/2LgEapb

(https://i.imgur.com/DGNanAI.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: froggie on December 15, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 26, 2018, 01:43:20 PM
Found this the other day on Iowa 44 about nine miles west of Guthrie Center. Anyone know of any other lesser-known divides that are marked with prominent signs?

(https://i.imgur.com/NQh14zK.jpg)

Jumping in late here, but the Laurentian Divide is (or at least was when I last passed through) signed on US 53 north of Virginia, MN.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on December 15, 2018, 08:40:25 AM
Quote from: froggie on December 15, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Jumping in late here, but the Laurentian Divide is (or at least was when I last passed through) signed on US 53 north of Virginia, MN.

I'd call that a pretty well-known divide, but then again I specifically remember being taught about it in middle school, which certainly isn't the same elsewhere as it was in MN.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 15, 2018, 12:33:22 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/32455478758/in/dateposted-public/
An entire county used as a control city for MO Route 370 in MO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 16, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
WA-112 near Pillar Point Park, Clallam County: http://bit.ly/2LgEapb

(https://i.imgur.com/DGNanAI.png)

Kinda hard to do since an ashtray hasn't been installed in a new car in many many years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on December 16, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 15, 2018, 12:33:22 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/32455478758/in/dateposted-public/
An entire county used as a control city for MO Route 370 in MO.

The same thing is done for the ramp from NB IL 3 to SB/WB I-255 (https://goo.gl/maps/nQ25g1buzbC2).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 16, 2018, 01:40:15 PM
In Delaware, some towns/communities are marked by very little green signs:

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HS25HlJ.png)

Except this one in Wyoming, DE which I spotted yesterday, which is in blue and buff, the state colors (using Bing because Google blurred the sign too much :rolleyes:):

(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HS25iZy.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 16, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on December 16, 2018, 01:40:15 PM
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HS25HlJ.png)

In Massachusetts, that exact same sign would indicate a river crossing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 16, 2018, 02:08:18 PM
Found a CR J6-7 Shield yesterday.  I've never seen another co-signed shield of any highwah type in California before:

https://flic.kr/p/2dAjdqH
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 16, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 16, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on December 16, 2018, 01:40:15 PM
(https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HS25HlJ.png)

In Massachusetts, that exact same sign would indicate a river crossing.
Was gonna say lmao


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 16, 2018, 08:57:22 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 16, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
WA-112 near Pillar Point Park, Clallam County: http://bit.ly/2LgEapb

(https://i.imgur.com/DGNanAI.png)

Kinda hard to do since an ashtray hasn't been installed in a new car in many many years.

I assume those who smoke in their car (the target audience) probably have ashtrays, either built-in or added on via the cupholder.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on December 16, 2018, 09:39:33 PM
Look at how NHDOT covers old construction sites.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181217/a973f3c8eebc57e4218542d00c8d369d.jpg)


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 16, 2018, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 16, 2018, 08:57:22 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 16, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
WA-112 near Pillar Point Park, Clallam County: http://bit.ly/2LgEapb

(https://i.imgur.com/DGNanAI.png)

Kinda hard to do since an ashtray hasn't been installed in a new car in many many years.

I assume those who smoke in their car (the target audience) probably have ashtrays, either built-in or added on via the cupholder.
I've witnessed plenty of smokers, at least in Delaware, who decide to use the street as their ashtray while driving.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 16, 2018, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on December 16, 2018, 09:39:33 PM
Look at how NHDOT covers old construction sites.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181217/a973f3c8eebc57e4218542d00c8d369d.jpg)


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Unless it's *how* they attached the "cover" for the construction sign, that is common in a lot of states. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 16, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on December 16, 2018, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 16, 2018, 08:57:22 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 16, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 14, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
WA-112 near Pillar Point Park, Clallam County: http://bit.ly/2LgEapb

(https://i.imgur.com/DGNanAI.png)

Kinda hard to do since an ashtray hasn't been installed in a new car in many many years.

I assume those who smoke in their car (the target audience) probably have ashtrays, either built-in or added on via the cupholder.
I've witnessed plenty of smokers, at least in Delaware, who decide to use the street as their ashtray while driving.

And I suppose that's not the end of the world on the east coast, since east coast cities don't go months without rain, like west coast cities can. Seattle went 51 days without rain back in 2017. The grass and trees are just waiting for a spark.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 16, 2018, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 16, 2018, 11:57:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 15, 2018, 12:33:22 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/32455478758/in/dateposted-public/
An entire county used as a control city for MO Route 370 in MO.

The same thing is done for the ramp from NB IL 3 to SB/WB I-255 (https://goo.gl/maps/nQ25g1buzbC2).
Interesting considering that using St. Louis here would work from this point of travel.

One though may argue in Virginia signing Arlington is signing a county as technically it is a county and not a city.  However for all practical purposes using Arlington is like stating a city as most people think the county is that and really functions as that, but because there is no municipal government running Arlington and all done at a county level its like a rural county without a city in it.

Then the 5 boroughs of NYC could be considered signing a county, but not because you would have to say the actual county name and with both The Bronx and Queens using the names without county in the end is saying the borough name and not the county there as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 24, 2018, 11:33:22 AM
On the Interstate Bridge southbound, I-5 approaching Portland, Oregon.  For years I had seen this neon sign, turned off, and couldn't quite tell at freeway speeds what it was supposed to say.  I finally walked out on the sidewalk to take a picture in late 1998, with a film camera.  Sever neon elements are stacked on top of each other to indicate a lane is closed or blocked ahead at some distance, including a fraction.  I think I remember seeing another such sign on a freeway near Portland, perhaps on US 26.  All such signs have been removed, in favor of more versatile variable message signs.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7850/46447354171_1b17cbf711_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dLoQce)Interstate Bridge, Oregon neon lane closure sign (https://flic.kr/p/2dLoQce) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 24, 2018, 11:05:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 24, 2018, 11:33:22 AM
On the Interstate Bridge southbound, I-5 approaching Portland, Oregon.  For years I had seen this neon sign, turned off, and couldn't quite tell at freeway speeds what it was supposed to say.  I finally walked out on the sidewalk to take a picture in late 1998, with a film camera.  Sever neon elements are stacked on top of each other to indicate a lane is closed or blocked ahead at some distance, including a fraction.  I think I remember seeing another such sign on a freeway near Portland, perhaps on US 26.  All such signs have been removed, in favor of more versatile variable message signs.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7850/46447354171_1b17cbf711_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dLoQce)Interstate Bridge, Oregon neon lane closure sign (https://flic.kr/p/2dLoQce) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Reminds me of the old neon signs on the NJ Turnpike, except this one is much more compact: https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-95/lneon.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
Found an old-fashioned black and white directional sign at South 10th Street (former OK 124) between Broadway and Main Street (now BL-40) in Henryetta, Oklahoma:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4387278,-95.9934485,3a,75y,359.83h,94.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSvuLsMzgwozUWbpW9EuI1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 29, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/45624290164
Those arrows on the exit guide for MO Route 370 are very strange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 30, 2018, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
Found an old-fashioned black and white directional sign at South 10th Street (former OK 124) between Broadway and Main Street (now BL-40) in Henryetta, Oklahoma:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4387278,-95.9934485,3a,75y,359.83h,94.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSvuLsMzgwozUWbpW9EuI1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
They still have the old one in Wilkes-Barre PA that now looks completely useless: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2505921,-75.8538942,3a,15y,298.02h,87.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suXvMLEAbOO8WYZxGVBQWXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on January 02, 2019, 06:10:08 PM
Saw this sign that the arrow was installed incorrectly: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190102/f41d337c4c3c4042a8fbfb699c414dcb.jpg)
If you cannot understand the arrow should be pointing the the right, but it's pointing towards a road going in the opposite directs, hmm massdot.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 02, 2019, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 02, 2019, 06:10:08 PM
Saw this sign that the arrow was installed incorrectly: (sign)
If you cannot understand the arrow should be pointing the the right, but it's pointing towards a road going in the opposite directs, hmm massdot.
Fun "not-a-fact": The term "Masshole" originated from people getting annoyed about being involved in crashes because people followed this sign literally.  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on January 02, 2019, 11:23:57 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on December 30, 2018, 10:25:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 28, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
Found an old-fashioned black and white directional sign at South 10th Street (former OK 124) between Broadway and Main Street (now BL-40) in Henryetta, Oklahoma:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4387278,-95.9934485,3a,75y,359.83h,94.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSvuLsMzgwozUWbpW9EuI1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
They still have the old one in Wilkes-Barre PA that now looks completely useless: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2505921,-75.8538942,3a,15y,298.02h,87.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suXvMLEAbOO8WYZxGVBQWXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

There's another Pennsylvania Department of Highways (PDH) white directional sign along Drexel Avenue approaching US 1 (https://goo.gl/maps/rtbwJWuZ6L22) in Upper Darby.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1695/23867345551_08d2b53ff9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 02, 2019, 11:30:06 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7476/28987538205_5317a3b0e3_z_d.jpg)
Cattle Xing near Ft Smith, AR
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
How many states had white destination signs before they went all green? I never saw them anywhere in New York besides those related to the parkways of New York City.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 05, 2019, 08:38:49 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
How many states had white destination signs before they went all green? I never saw them anywhere in New York besides those related to the parkways of New York City.



Old US 62 Cache, OK
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1766/42991135531_88afb4a461_z_d.jpg)

Old Hwy 1 Marinna, AR (no longer there)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5756/22453718216_d4c2f3f193_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 05, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
How many states had white destination signs before they went all green? I never saw them anywhere in New York besides those related to the parkways of New York City.

Florida had them for a while, but they started disappearing in the 1970s. Few (if any) still exist in the field today.

Crossposting from nearly a decade ago...

Quote from: flaroads on June 21, 2009, 07:04:02 PM
Find of the day:

(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/cr-183_eb_at_sr-081.jpg)
An old style directional mileage sign with white background and raised black lettering. Photo taken 06/21/09.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 05, 2019, 11:31:34 AM
Ohio was Black-on-White until the early 80s when they started replacing them with white-on-green.  There were still some rarities in the wild as of the early 00s.

Michigan was unusual as they were a white-on-blackish/brown on their destination and many other supplemental signs as well until the early 80s. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2019, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 02, 2019, 11:30:06 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7476/28987538205_5317a3b0e3_z_d.jpg)
Cattle Xing near Ft Smith, AR
What does that truck 30 mean?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 05, 2019, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2019, 05:45:33 PM
Quote from: US71 on January 02, 2019, 11:30:06 PM
(cattle xing sign)
Cattle Xing near Ft Smith, AR
What does that truck 30 mean?
Probably a truck speed limit.

This is a photo of a similar phenomenon in the Missoula Montana area: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HV6kGwh.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on January 05, 2019, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: NE2 on December 07, 2013, 09:00:47 AM
That would be VERY helpful on a bike.
You mean like this:
https://youtu.be/UkCaVuL-L1U
Beginning is a bit dramatic but it's cool


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 05, 2019, 07:48:29 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
How many states had white destination signs before they went all green? I never saw them anywhere in New York besides those related to the parkways of New York City.

Kentucky used them. Conversion started in the 1970s, sometime around the introduction of the "honeycomb" or "fishnet" reflective sheeting. A few black-on-white signs are still posted in the northern Kentucky counties of District 6. And there's one that predates reflective sheeting on the Madison County side of the Valley View Ferry on KY 169.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on January 05, 2019, 07:49:39 PM
Here's a new unique one in Orlando: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.461572,-81.1722393,3a,75y,107.57h,90.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMFH2fMCAc_ScUTZqvfEGwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I have no idea why the road was designed in such a retarded manner either, its brand new and it seems there would be absolutely no reason for it. The signs ahead of it also I believe are wrong for the conditions, pretty much every sign that was installed as part of that project is wrong in some way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on January 05, 2019, 07:56:01 PM
Look at this alternate merge thing: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4210069,-68.3621797,3a,28.6y,316.71h,95.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0_kOsyRwwYUE-LfVZQlR2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on January 05, 2019, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 05, 2019, 07:48:29 PM

And there's one that predates reflective sheeting on the Madison County side of the Valley View Ferry on KY 169.

It's not there any more. All ferry related signs starting at Man O' War in Lexington to Goggins Lane in Richmond were replaced last year. This includes all the signs at the ferry approachs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 05, 2019, 08:30:39 PM
From the Northwest forum, black on white directional signs on the then-new Alaska Way Viaduct, at 1:00 and 1:34.  Look quick and you may see a white on black US 99 shield.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/tunnel-effect/why-the-seattle-viaduct-was-built-and-why-it-took-so-long-to-tear-down/281-e0e23029-1c68-43f2-a540-31a428aa6d1c
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 05, 2019, 10:02:57 PM
and then there's this from Sebastian County, AR
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2016/2268506350_bf38c6e893_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 06, 2019, 07:28:45 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on January 05, 2019, 08:11:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 05, 2019, 07:48:29 PM

And there's one that predates reflective sheeting on the Madison County side of the Valley View Ferry on KY 169.

It's not there any more. All ferry related signs starting at Man O' War in Lexington to Goggins Lane in Richmond were replaced last year. This includes all the signs at the ferry approachs.

This one was there last May.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7888/44769115690_f81b9a3a7a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bd6qn1)2018 spring various Kentucky photos - 060 (https://flic.kr/p/2bd6qn1) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on January 07, 2019, 06:46:40 PM
Here's one I had never seen before my ride along US 24 in northwestern Ohio.  A railroad runs alongside the road and many of the intersecting roads that cross those tracks had these attached to the back of stop signs.  Taken July 30, 2018.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20180730%2Flookagain.jpg&hash=121472e3cb199ce953af0db682901255bd8583a0)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teresco.org%2Fpics%2Fsigns%2F20180730%2Flookagain-close.jpg&hash=26d9e14a02392d3d4f24fdc51943750cb8f98ab8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 07, 2019, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
How many states had white destination signs before they went all green?

My gut reaction was "all of them", but I don't actually know if that's true.



Quote from: US71 on January 05, 2019, 10:02:57 PM
and then there's this from Sebastian County, AR
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2016/2268506350_bf38c6e893_z_d.jpg)

O Sebastian County!  Three warning signs, but only one diamond...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 07, 2019, 10:28:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 07, 2019, 10:21:06 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2019, 01:44:55 AM
How many states had white destination signs before they went all green?

My gut reaction was "all of them", but I don't actually know if that's true.


I believe that was the standard. It's in the old MUTCD's, at least.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 08, 2019, 10:46:14 AM
Current black on white directional signage (https://goo.gl/maps/Xh5wfHGDbE12) in Vancouver, Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 08, 2019, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 08, 2019, 10:46:14 AM
Current black on white directional signage (https://goo.gl/maps/Xh5wfHGDbE12) in Vancouver, Washington.

All I see are street blades.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 08, 2019, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 08, 2019, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 08, 2019, 10:46:14 AM
Current black on white directional signage (https://goo.gl/maps/Xh5wfHGDbE12) in Vancouver, Washington.

All I see are street blades.

I think he was referring to the street blades when he said "directional signage".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 08, 2019, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2019, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 08, 2019, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 08, 2019, 10:46:14 AM
Current black on white directional signage (https://goo.gl/maps/Xh5wfHGDbE12) in Vancouver, Washington.

All I see are street blades.

I think he was referring to the street blades when he said "directional signage".
New Hope PA uses black on white street blades as well. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.364368,-74.9514709,3a,75y,233.64h,85.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssrOUOqAwa5MxtjtlJwBV9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 08, 2019, 02:53:48 PM
Towns all over the country use black-on-white street blades.  That's not what we were talking about.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on January 13, 2019, 11:35:00 AM
Another black-on-white directional sign but this one is more like cralG coUnty but could have just been handled like elsewhere in Middlesex County, NJ with a standard CR 527 shield with the bidirectional arrows below (with S-N inscribed within):

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3230977,-74.3611731,3a,15y,327.76h,92.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSW1bdAQ-zilrhdCFxp0ovA!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 13, 2019, 12:19:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 29, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/45624290164
Those arrows on the exit guide for MO Route 370 are very strange.

A similar sign design in Novi, before the current MUTCD standard of black arrows in the yellow Exit Only field.  I haven't seen this anywhere else in Michigan.

(https://i.imgur.com/BBj6yZt.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 13, 2019, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on January 13, 2019, 11:35:00 AM
Another black-on-white directional sign but this one is more like cralG coUnty but could have just been handled like elsewhere in Middlesex County, NJ with a standard CR 527 shield with the bidirectional arrows below (with S-N inscribed within):

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3230977,-74.3611731,3a,15y,327.76h,92.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSW1bdAQ-zilrhdCFxp0ovA!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
That actually reminded me of something.  On I-84 WB in Connecticut, through the Exit 57 (CT-15 South) sequence, each Exit 57 sign had a different error (last I was there was August 2017 and I think all the signs were still there): https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ct/i-84/w1.html

1½ mile advance: no exit only marker
½ mile advance: arguably okay in original form, but replacement I-91 shield too small
Second to last advance: would be perfect except "N.Y. City"
Final advance: Why is that "15" so bold and wide?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:50:16 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 05, 2019, 11:31:34 AM
Ohio was Black-on-White until the early 80s when they started replacing them with white-on-green.  There were still some rarities in the wild as of the early 00s.

Michigan was unusual as they were a white-on-blackish/brown on their destination and many other supplemental signs as well until the early 80s.

On E. Broad St. at the Columbus/Whitehall line, there was an old black on white "Columbus Corporation Limit"  sign. It recently got replaced...with a black on white sign. I'll try to grab a pic of it soon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
I've never seen this used for anything but a speed limit reduction.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190114/0774bd67240247c32fbc7082c06d8f30.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 13, 2019, 09:41:57 PM
^^
Better than signing the prohibition at the last second.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 13, 2019, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:50:16 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 05, 2019, 11:31:34 AM
Ohio was Black-on-White until the early 80s when they started replacing them with white-on-green.  There were still some rarities in the wild as of the early 00s.

Michigan was unusual as they were a white-on-blackish/brown on their destination and many other supplemental signs as well until the early 80s.

On E. Broad St. at the Columbus/Whitehall line, there was an old black on white "Columbus Corporation Limit"  sign. It recently got replaced...with a black on white sign. I'll try to grab a pic of it soon.

Toledo kept the black-on-white ENTER/LEAVE TOLEDO signage on regular surface streets as well. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on January 13, 2019, 11:04:13 PM
Quote from: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
I've never seen this used for anything but a speed limit reduction.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190114/0774bd67240247c32fbc7082c06d8f30.jpg)

Quote from: jakeroot on January 13, 2019, 09:41:57 PM
^^
Better than signing the prohibition at the last second.

I agree it does look odd, but that's probably only simply because this is not done that often, so it seems unusual. I agree this is definitely much better than signing the information too late, or not at all. Perhaps they should do this more often - it is intriguing to me, and it certainly increases safety and preparedness.  :nod:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
I've never seen this used for anything but a speed limit reduction.

You're forgetting the obvious:  W3-1.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
I've never seen this used for anything but a speed limit reduction.

You're forgetting the obvious:  W3-1.

There is, ultimately, a lot of uses that (I believe) are currently occupied by the directional arrows that are otherwise used for route guidance markers (or even route markers themselves (http://bit.ly/2RIxA0v), to indicate the route to follow). I don't know how helpful "no through trucks ahead" is, since it's better to actually tell the trucks where to go, rather than tell them where they can't, but points for creativity anyway.

Of course, isn't the idea of the yellow diamond to warn of something ahead? Making the arrow redundant? Or is that only half its job?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Of course, isn't the idea of the yellow diamond to warn of something ahead? Making the arrow redundant? Or is that only half its job?

I think people would reasonably assume that a sign saying "NO THROUGH TRUCKS" means no through trucks are allowed on that road.  The arrow clarifies that the restriction actually begins further down the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 03:39:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 03:04:59 PM
Of course, isn't the idea of the yellow diamond to warn of something ahead? Making the arrow redundant? Or is that only half its job?

I think people would reasonably assume that a sign saying "NO THROUGH TRUCKS" means no through trucks are allowed on that road.  The arrow clarifies that the restriction actually begins further down the road.

See, I would too. But, aren't diamond signs always used to warn of something ahead? Thinking about it for a moment, I can't think of any that are used on the spot, short of pedestrian crossing signs (which are accompanied by downward-pointing arrows). Some signs literally say 'ahead', but the entire point of diamonds is to warn of something ahead, thus all messages could very well be read out, "no through trucks ahead", or "left lane ends ahead".

To use a more common sign as an example, you don't see "narrow bridge" or "roundabout" used at the narrow bridge or roundabout themselves. They are used before the fact, so that drivers are prepared.

Maybe it's the text that's throwing me off? Perhaps if it was a symbol on top of the diamond, it might be more obvious that it's a warning of something ahead (short of using an arrow)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 03:55:06 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 03:39:47 PM
But, aren't diamond signs always used to warn of something ahead? Thinking about it for a moment, I can't think of any that are used on the spot, short of pedestrian crossing signs (which are accompanied by downward-pointing arrows). Some signs literally say 'ahead', but the entire point of diamonds is to warn of something ahead, thus all messages could very well be read out, "no through trucks ahead", or "left lane ends ahead".

W12-1 is decidedly not an advance warning sign.

Some of the ones in the W8 range aren't necessarily used in advance, such as W8-5 and W8-11.

W6-3 is generally not used in advance.

Some of the ones in the W11 range aren't necessarily used in advance, such as W11-1, W11-14, and W11-4.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
^^
Although, of those listed, virtually all are used to warn of things that are occurring from the point of the sign, on-wards (so still in some sense "ahead"). The two exceptions are the double arrow, and two-way traffic sign, which IMO should be black-on-white, since they're regulating traffic flow (and are telling you do something). The W8 signs, at least in WA, are always used prior to the fact.

In your opinion, which of these two is better at warning of "no through trucks ahead" without actually spelling out "ahead" or using an upward arrow?

(https://i.imgur.com/WZ0aGu4.png) (https://i.imgur.com/WpfQL1e.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
The two exceptions are the double arrow, and two-way traffic sign, which IMO should be black-on-white, since they're regulating traffic flow (and are telling you do something).

I interpret those signs differently.  The first warns me of a median/splitter/curb/whatever, which I might run into if not paying attention.  The second warns me of oncoming traffic, as I might not be used to watching out for that, having been on a one-way road up till that point.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
In your opinion, which of these two is better at warning of "no through trucks ahead" without actually spelling out "ahead" or using an upward arrow?

(https://i.imgur.com/WZ0aGu4.png) (https://i.imgur.com/WpfQL1e.png)

The first one I would modify to use a standard red slash in a circle, but then move the arrow from within the sign to the top of the sign.

The second one I would pair with a plaque indicating the distance to the beginning of the restrcition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DaBigE on January 14, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
I'll throw a third option out there, granted, it's more regulatory, but gets a similar message across: https://goo.gl/maps/B42c6BeuQJL2 (https://goo.gl/maps/B42c6BeuQJL2) (could also fit in the redundancy thread, with both the arrow and the text 'AHEAD')

In any case, the advanced notification is only good if you know how far ahead the prohibition begins, as kphoger eludes to. So in that light, I'd say none of the options do a good job of that.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
In your opinion, which of these two is better at warning of "no through trucks ahead" without actually spelling out "ahead" or using an upward arrow?

(https://i.imgur.com/WZ0aGu4.png) (https://i.imgur.com/WpfQL1e.png)

I'd argue they could be interpreted differently. The symbolic could mean no trucks whatsoever can travel on that road. The text could mean that trucks are ok as long as they don't use the roadway to access another road (cut-though). IMO, it's too similar to the regulatory No Through Traffic variation to be a viable alternative.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
The two exceptions are the double arrow, and two-way traffic sign, which IMO should be black-on-white, since they're regulating traffic flow (and are telling you do something).

I interpret those signs differently.  The first warns me of a median/splitter/curb/whatever, which I might run into if not paying attention.  The second warns me of oncoming traffic, as I might not be used to watching out for that, having been on a one-way road up till that point.

But are warning signs meant to be interpreted from a distance? I always thought they were to warn you of actions that might be required from beyond the sign (with your job being to at least acknowledge the sign by the time you get to it). The double arrow and two-way traffic symbol are only of any use as a warning when read from a distance, which is perhaps a bit unfair to people with less-than-stellar vision, assuming they are, in fact, meant to be warnings. If you don't act upon them before reaching the sign, you're going to potentially have a crash.

To your credit, downward arrows are used at pedestrian crossings, but at least there's a warning of them beforehand (usually). Double arrows have no warning beforehand that I've ever seen. The pedestrian crossing strangeness is probably why I prefer Canada's black-on-white pedestrian crossing signs, which make better sense to me than the US's diamond signs, as they are meant to regulate the flow of pedestrians across traffic.

Two-way traffic signs could easily be replaced by something like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/ovCGPO9.png)

Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 04:42:18 PM
The first one I would modify to use a standard red slash in a circle, but then move the arrow from within the sign to the top of the sign.

I kept the arrow in the first design within the sign, because I wasn't trying to indicate "no trucks ahead". The arrow within the symbol was meant to indicate "through trucks", as far fetched as it may be!

Quote from: DaBigE on January 14, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
I'll throw a third option out there, granted, it's more regulatory, but gets a similar message across: https://goo.gl/maps/B42c6BeuQJL2 (https://goo.gl/maps/B42c6BeuQJL2) (could also fit in the redundancy thread, with both the arrow and the text 'AHEAD')

In any case, the advanced notification is only good if you know how far ahead the prohibition begins, as kphoger eludes to. So in that light, I'd say none of the options do a good job of that.

I think that's good! Signing a truck route is ultimately the best option.

Quote from: DaBigE on January 14, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
In your opinion, which of these two is better at warning of "no through trucks ahead" without actually spelling out "ahead" or using an upward arrow?

I'd argue they could be interpreted differently. The symbolic could mean no trucks whatsoever can travel on that road. The text could mean that trucks are ok as long as they don't use the roadway to access another road (cut-though). IMO, it's too similar to the regulatory No Through Traffic variation to be a viable alternative.

I think your aforementioned linked sign is far better than either of my designs!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 14, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
Rare uni-sign US 19/98 junction on Citrus County, FL Route 490:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46691971232_554b2e0bb4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e91yjL)19USb (https://flic.kr/p/2e91yjL) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
downward arrows are used at pedestrian crossings, but at least there's a warning of them beforehand (usually).

Wow, in your part of the country there are advance warning signs of a ped crossing?  I don't remember ever seeing one of those before, but I could be mistaken.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
The pedestrian crossing strangeness is probably why I prefer Canada's black-on-white pedestrian crossing signs, which make better sense to me than the US's diamond signs, as they are meant to regulate the flow of pedestrians across traffic.

Again, to my mind, W11-2 is warning me to watch out for pedestrians–not actually telling me what to do if there are any.  If there's a downward-pointing arrow, then it's merely telling me exactly where the crosswalk is;  it doesn't tell me to stop or yield or anything.

I have a vague memory of driver's ed, in which the teacher talked to us about either pedestrian warning signs or school signs (can't remember which).  One variant had a marked crosswalk in the sign and the other variant did not.  The one was intended to indicate a crosswalk, but the other was merely to warn drivers of either pedestrians or school children in the area.  The reason the memory sticks around is that, a bit later, he showed us a video of driving down a street while he talked to us.  At a certain point, he stopped the video and asked us all what the last sign we saw was–to test how well we were paying attention, showing what it's like to be driving while a conversation is going on in the car.  One of those signs was the last one before he stopped the video.

Did this type of distinction use to exist in our signage?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on January 14, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
as kphoger eludes to

I didn't intend to be elusive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on January 14, 2019, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: 6a on January 13, 2019, 08:53:56 PM
I've never seen this used for anything but a speed limit reduction.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190114/0774bd67240247c32fbc7082c06d8f30.jpg)

I personally prefer the design featured here (changing "THROUGH"  to "THRU" ).

However, I do want to point out that the MUTCD standard (Section 2C.53) has a provision for advanced warning of a regulatory condition (that don't have a standard warning sign). They are supposed to use the regulatory sign with a yellow supplemental plaque below ("AHEAD"  or distance). I had to do this with a weight limit sign a while back.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on January 14, 2019, 07:41:59 PM
This has always bothered me on VA-168 in Chesapeake, Virginia.

(https://i.ibb.co/QvfnMS3/Exit-B-A.png)

What is Exit B-A supposed to mean?

It's Exit 10B-A, not Exit B-A. Also, the little Great Bridge sign attached to the post.

The sign overall should read -

Exit 10B-A
Hanbury Rd
Great Bridge
1 Mile

The 1/2 reassurance marker also features the lovely Exit B-A.

At the interchange, it's correct, but the first exit heading north, Exit 10B, has an offset exit tab, along with an oddly small "East" text. Exit 10A's exit is signed correctly and with a properly placed exit tab. Exit 10A also has a really odd exit, squeezed in the original interchange about 10 years ago. They didn't bother to make the northbound acceleration lane turn into the exit, they just left it like original. It merges in just past the truck in the picture.

(https://i.ibb.co/1Qd48CQ/Offset-10-B.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/SnBtRJj/Correct-Exit-A.png)

You can see the full interchange here, where they squeezed in that odd loop in the upper right corner.

(https://i.ibb.co/JchNKsr/Exit-10-Overhead.png)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 10:25:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
downward arrows are used at pedestrian crossings, but at least there's a warning of them beforehand (usually).

Wow, in your part of the country there are advance warning signs of a ped crossing?  I don't remember ever seeing one of those before, but I could be mistaken.

Oh yeah, absolutely. I thought that was normal? Example in Federal Way (http://bit.ly/2RJvzkJ) ... example in Tacoma (http://bit.ly/2FwaCmK) (more often, lately, a bike/ped combo warning sign). There's also this school crossing variant in Puyallup (http://bit.ly/2TOokoM) (normal design for school crossings in WA). They're almost all accompanied by distance or "ahead" messages, but not always (http://bit.ly/2TJJpAK). The only time you don't see warnings is when there's more than two within a block, or sometimes at intersections where it's more expected anyways.

Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
The pedestrian crossing strangeness is probably why I prefer Canada's black-on-white pedestrian crossing signs, which make better sense to me than the US's diamond signs, as they are meant to regulate the flow of pedestrians across traffic.

Again, to my mind, W11-2 is warning me to watch out for pedestrians–not actually telling me what to do if there are any.  If there's a downward-pointing arrow, then it's merely telling me exactly where the crosswalk is;  it doesn't tell me to stop or yield or anything.

I have a vague memory of driver's ed, in which the teacher talked to us about either pedestrian warning signs or school signs (can't remember which).  One variant had a marked crosswalk in the sign and the other variant did not.  The one was intended to indicate a crosswalk, but the other was merely to warn drivers of either pedestrians or school children in the area.  The reason the memory sticks around is that, a bit later, he showed us a video of driving down a street while he talked to us.  At a certain point, he stopped the video and asked us all what the last sign we saw was–to test how well we were paying attention, showing what it's like to be driving while a conversation is going on in the car.  One of those signs was the last one before he stopped the video.

Did this type of distinction use to exist in our signage?

In the case of the "telling you what to do" issue, they're basically warning you of a condition which you are obligated to obey: yield to pedestrians at crosswalks. Which, in my mind, is no different than a stop or yield sign, and you don't see those written on a yellow diamond at the "point of action" (although the original black-on-yellow yield sign may have been the result of it being a "warning" condition, as in "warning: you don't have the right of way"). In this sense, at least in my mind, they're regulatory messages, demanding that you give way to those who have greater ROW than you.

As to your memory, the marked crossing variant was apparently discarded. I don't know why this was done, per se, although I know that not all states use longitudinal markings like those portrayed in the design. That could be part of it (just that it wasn't completely accurate in representing the crossing).

I think the replacement for this were my first two examples: a ped symbol against a yellow diamond, and then another with a downward-pointing arrow. I don't think I've seen a single pedestrian crossing sign installed at a crosswalk without a downward facing arrow. At least, I don't know of any.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DaBigE on January 14, 2019, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
downward arrows are used at pedestrian crossings, but at least there's a warning of them beforehand (usually).

Wow, in your part of the country there are advance warning signs of a ped crossing?  I don't remember ever seeing one of those before, but I could be mistaken.

We occasionally have them around here. They're usually reserved for high-speed roadways and/or crossings that are hidden by horizontal or vertical curves. It's the W11-2 diamond with an 'Ahead' plaque below it.

Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:35:15 PM
Again, to my mind, W11-2 is warning me to watch out for pedestrians–not actually telling me what to do if there are any.  If there's a downward-pointing arrow, then it's merely telling me exactly where the crosswalk is;  it doesn't tell me to stop or yield or anything.

I have a vague memory of driver's ed, in which the teacher talked to us about either pedestrian warning signs or school signs (can't remember which).  One variant had a marked crosswalk in the sign and the other variant did not.  The one was intended to indicate a crosswalk, but the other was merely to warn drivers of either pedestrians or school children in the area.  The reason the memory sticks around is that, a bit later, he showed us a video of driving down a street while he talked to us.  At a certain point, he stopped the video and asked us all what the last sign we saw was–to test how well we were paying attention, showing what it's like to be driving while a conversation is going on in the car.  One of those signs was the last one before he stopped the video.

Did this type of distinction use to exist in our signage?


Yes, it did and I remember them [fondly?]. They switched to the Ahead and arrow plaques because it was felt that the crosswalk lines were too subtle for drivers to notice the difference. Occasionally, you'll still see a new crossing installation of a Ped or School sign with the crosswalk lines AND an arrow or Ahead plaque: https://goo.gl/maps/bxoFQZ1fa1N2 (https://goo.gl/maps/bxoFQZ1fa1N2). Personally, I think the Ahead plaque is redundant, given the nature of a warning sign. IMO, the Ahead plaque should not be used or it should be replaced with a distance plaque.

Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2019, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: DaBigE on January 14, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
as kphoger eludes to

I didn't intend to be elusive.

:-D  Fingers going to fast for my brain again.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
Rare to see a uni-sign in Florida like this US 19/98 junction:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46691971232_554b2e0bb4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e91yjL)19USb (https://flic.kr/p/2e91yjL) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
Rare to see a uni-sign in Florida like this US 19/98 junction:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46691971232_554b2e0bb4_k.jpg

I am certain that single-letter cardinal directions are prohibited, but a cool sign nonetheless. Especially with it being black, a rarely-used color from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:55:57 PM
Saw this sign used several times along Linden Ave N in Seattle, along a stretch with the two-way protected cycle track (which is also next to a wide pedestrian path).

I consider it mostly unusual because it goes to the very edges of the diamond, which few other warnings signs do, from what I've seen.

The same sign is posted on both sides. Street view: http://bit.ly/2R4hkCx

(https://i.imgur.com/g3SIsfe.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 21, 2019, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
Rare to see a uni-sign in Florida like this US 19/98 junction:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46691971232_554b2e0bb4_k.jpg

I am certain that single-letter cardinal directions are prohibited, but a cool sign nonetheless. Especially with it being black, a rarely-used color from what I've seen.

Tennessee uses them frequently.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 21, 2019, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
Rare to see a uni-sign in Florida like this US 19/98 junction:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46691971232_554b2e0bb4_k.jpg

I am certain that single-letter cardinal directions are prohibited, but a cool sign nonetheless. Especially with it being black, a rarely-used color from what I've seen.

Tennessee uses them frequently.

Black signs or single-letter directions?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2019, 07:39:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:52:11 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
Rare to see a uni-sign in Florida like this US 19/98 junction:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7882/46691971232_554b2e0bb4_k.jpg

I am certain that single-letter cardinal directions are prohibited, but a cool sign nonetheless. Especially with it being black, a rarely-used color from what I've seen.

I'm fairly certain the sign is Citrus County sourced.  For what it was worth I thought it was a pretty decent looking sign.  Kind of reminded me of the old colorized shields that FDOT used to put up a little bit. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on January 22, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Redundentcy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906584,-72.6262897,3a,15.2y,28.65h,105.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLZUrr0WGiNRDDOUW2ZBBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 22, 2019, 03:53:35 PM
Technically not redundant.  (Which is good, considering this isn't the redundancy thread.  :biggrin:)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 22, 2019, 04:13:48 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 22, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Redundentcy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906584,-72.6262897,3a,15.2y,28.65h,105.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLZUrr0WGiNRDDOUW2ZBBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Is that their way of saying "no turn on red"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 22, 2019, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on January 22, 2019, 04:13:48 PM

Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 22, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Redundentcy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906584,-72.6262897,3a,15.2y,28.65h,105.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLZUrr0WGiNRDDOUW2ZBBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is that their way of saying "no turn on red"?

The effect is the same, but the road only curves to the right, so "no turn" would likely be ignored as people think of that movement being straight ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 22, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Redundentcy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906584,-72.6262897,3a,15.2y,28.65h,105.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLZUrr0WGiNRDDOUW2ZBBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Does it really need both the green ball and the green arrow?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 22, 2019, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 22, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Redundentcy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906584,-72.6262897,3a,15.2y,28.65h,105.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLZUrr0WGiNRDDOUW2ZBBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Does it really need both the green ball and the green arrow?

Despite the orbs, it's actually a protected left. The green arrow is displayed to keep traffic moving during the southbound through phase (when the overhead lights would be red). I'm guessing the local agency decided the left turn was the major movement (back when only the major movement needed two signals), so it got two signals, with the slight right (northbound) movement only getting a single arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 01:48:21 AM
Not sure I'm a big fan of writing words at an angle...Bainbridge Island, WA (http://bit.ly/2DtT35u).

(https://i.imgur.com/sBOfumE.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: adventurernumber1 on January 23, 2019, 02:06:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 01:48:21 AM
Not sure I'm a big fan of writing words at an angle...Bainbridge Island, WA (http://bit.ly/2DtT35u).

(https://i.imgur.com/sBOfumE.png)

It appears that they may have run short of room on the sign, but I concur that it isn't exactly the most visually appealing design.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:55:57 PM
Saw this sign used several times along Linden Ave N in Seattle, along a stretch with the two-way protected cycle track (which is also next to a wide pedestrian path).

I consider it mostly unusual because it goes to the very edges of the diamond, which few other warnings signs do, from what I've seen.

This looks like it could be the flag for an as-yet-undiscovered Nordic country.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
This seems like a good place to ask this: the other day I saw a fairly new sign for Washington SR 14, but it had a federal shield, not George Washington's bust. Does anyone have any information about that? Thanks!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
This seems like a good place to ask this: the other day I saw a fairly new sign for Washington SR 14, but it had a federal shield, not George Washington's bust. Does anyone have any information about that? Thanks!

Like this?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/US_14.svg/70px-US_14.svg.png)

Simple error by the agency that posted it; US-14 has never gone as far west as Washington. If you wanted, you could probably contact the agency and they'd correct it. This mixup happens a lot, though some agencies are more prone than others. I understand Oregon DOT is particularly afflicted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 23, 2019, 08:09:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 01:48:21 AM
Not sure I'm a big fan of writing words at an angle...Bainbridge Island, WA (http://bit.ly/2DtT35u).

(https://i.imgur.com/sBOfumE.png)
If something like that is going to happen, it's definitely better to do WINSLOW WAY E (with each letter in "WAY" the same size of course).  That was how they did it in Bloomsburg PA when I was growing up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 23, 2019, 01:39:32 PM
That would match the West sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
This seems like a good place to ask this: the other day I saw a fairly new sign for Washington SR 14, but it had a federal shield, not George Washington's bust. Does anyone have any information about that? Thanks!

Like this?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/US_14.svg/70px-US_14.svg.png)

Simple error by the agency that posted it; US-14 has never gone as far west as Washington. If you wanted, you could probably contact the agency and they'd correct it. This mixup happens a lot, though some agencies are more prone than others. I understand Oregon DOT is particularly afflicted.
Yes, that's it exactly. It's posted on Evergreen highway just off of SR 14 in Vancouver Washington. I should look around and see if there are more in tge area. This is a fairly new sign, not certain if it's a replacement or if somebody decided one was needed. So, just contact WADOT and tell them they made a mistake?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 21, 2019, 03:55:57 PM
Saw this sign used several times along Linden Ave N in Seattle, along a stretch with the two-way protected cycle track (which is also next to a wide pedestrian path).

I consider it mostly unusual because it goes to the very edges of the diamond, which few other warnings signs do, from what I've seen.

This looks like it could be the flag for an as-yet-undiscovered Nordic country.

More imaginative than most flags I see!



Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
This seems like a good place to ask this: the other day I saw a fairly new sign for Washington SR 14, but it had a federal shield, not George Washington's bust. Does anyone have any information about that? Thanks!

Like this?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/US_14.svg/70px-US_14.svg.png)

Simple error by the agency that posted it; US-14 has never gone as far west as Washington. If you wanted, you could probably contact the agency and they'd correct it. This mixup happens a lot, though some agencies are more prone than others. I understand Oregon DOT is particularly afflicted.
Yes, that's it exactly. It's posted on Evergreen highway just off of SR 14 in Vancouver Washington. I should look around and see if there are more in tge area. This is a fairly new sign, not certain if it's a replacement or if somebody decided one was needed. So, just contact WADOT and tell them they made a mistake?

Found it on Street View: http://bit.ly/2RaJwUf

Looks like it was installed quite a long time ago, but was recently moved to a taller post a few meters west from where it used to be. I guess no one noticed the issue when they moved it.

Not sure this is a state install. Might be Clark County. WSDOT typically posts unisigns or little green guide signs (LGSs), not piece-meal signs like this.

The other direction's route marker is the correct GW bust.



Quote from: ipeters61 on January 23, 2019, 08:09:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 01:48:21 AM
Not sure I'm a big fan of writing words at an angle...Bainbridge Island, WA (http://bit.ly/2DtT35u).

https://i.imgur.com/sBOfumE.png
If something like that is going to happen, it's definitely better to do WINSLOW WAY E (with each letter in "WAY" the same size of course).  That was how they did it in Bloomsburg PA when I was growing up.

Yeah, I too would prefer the cardinal direction be in the upper right corner.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 23, 2019, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 05:11:04 PM
Not sure this is a state install. Might be Clark County.

Might be able to find out by looking for an inventory sticker on the back, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on January 23, 2019, 08:48:22 PM
Found a strange FRA sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7418093,-89.6031303,3a,20.5y,43.09h,86.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snGt88EYzgY-9v4HhUZQC1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 and http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/images/sigsheridanrdpeoriail0512.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 23, 2019, 09:04:37 PM
Honestly, that's really cool. Flashing red arrows are an option in the MUTCD and that's the first time I've ever seen one. Too bad it seems to have been replaced with a FYA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on January 23, 2019, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 22, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 22, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Redundentcy: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0906584,-72.6262897,3a,15.2y,28.65h,105.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snLZUrr0WGiNRDDOUW2ZBBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Does it really need both the green ball and the green arrow?
Lately they've been programming the right green arrow to come on with the ball as long as the don't walk signal is on around here. I quite like it, as often at the end of the green ball phase, the next phase is the perpendicular left, allowing a continuous right arrow through that phase. I'd prefer a FYA signal for all right turns with dedicated lanes, but I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
This seems like a good place to ask this: the other day I saw a fairly new sign for Washington SR 14, but it had a federal shield, not George Washington's bust. Does anyone have any information about that? Thanks!

Like this?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/US_14.svg/70px-US_14.svg.png)

Simple error by the agency that posted it; US-14 has never gone as far west as Washington. If you wanted, you could probably contact the agency and they'd correct it. This mixup happens a lot, though some agencies are more prone than others. I understand Oregon DOT is particularly afflicted.
Thanks for the information...speaking of Evergreen Highway, I assume it was a federal or state highway at one time, before the SR 14 freeway between Vancouver and Camas was built in the 1960s. Does anyone know what its former designation was?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 23, 2019, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 10:48:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 23, 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Quote from: dougI5 on January 23, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
This seems like a good place to ask this: the other day I saw a fairly new sign for Washington SR 14, but it had a federal shield, not George Washington's bust. Does anyone have any information about that? Thanks!

Like this?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/US_14.svg/70px-US_14.svg.png)

Simple error by the agency that posted it; US-14 has never gone as far west as Washington. If you wanted, you could probably contact the agency and they'd correct it. This mixup happens a lot, though some agencies are more prone than others. I understand Oregon DOT is particularly afflicted.
Thanks for the information...speaking of Evergreen Highway, I assume it was a federal or state highway at one time, before the SR 14 freeway between Vancouver and Camas was built in the 1960s. Does anyone know what its former designation was?

830 (https://www.usends.com/830.html).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 24, 2019, 12:39:24 AM
Quote from: kphoger on January 23, 2019, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 23, 2019, 05:11:04 PM
Not sure this is a state install. Might be Clark County.

Might be able to find out by looking for an inventory sticker on the back, right?

Good point. I don't see any sort of sticker or black date number. Probably Clark County.



Quote from: Amtrakprod on January 23, 2019, 08:48:22 PM
Found a strange FRA sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7418093,-89.6031303,3a,20.5y,43.09h,86.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snGt88EYzgY-9v4HhUZQC1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 and http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/images/sigsheridanrdpeoriail0512.jpg
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 23, 2019, 09:04:37 PM
Honestly, that's really cool. Flashing red arrows are an option in the MUTCD and that's the first time I've ever seen one. Too bad it seems to have been replaced with a FYA.

It's almost like Illinois' version of the FYA before flashing yellow was a thing. Odd location for the placement of the FRA, though.

Flashing red arrows are very common in Maryland, and in Delaware too IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 24, 2019, 12:46:09 AM
The parts of Norway with Sami placenames sure have some interesting signs.
(https://i.imgur.com/79OBEQr.jpg)

(From @ingridsprell on Instagram, found as part of my Trafikkalfabetet research.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 27, 2019, 02:58:01 AM
These signs at the EB entrance to the Holland Tunnel (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7298182,-74.0369166,3a,48.9y,96.92h,92.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snBVMQK-7_sIL5tFxtomLmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) are pretty interesting.

(https://i.imgur.com/37NhBDI.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 03, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
Mentioned at yesterday's Alaska Way Viaduct & Tunnel meet, though we did not go to look at the sign as a group: this sign on Coleman Dock, Seattle Ferry Terminal of "TEMP" I-90.  I-90 hasn't been temp. since about 1989 to 1993, when the last few western miles of the freeway were finally built.  This sign will likely go down in the next few months has they rebuild the terminal.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7922/46250112214_82cf4c8ec3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dsXV2Q)Temp I-90 sign at Coleman Dock (https://flic.kr/p/2dsXV2Q) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rick1962 on February 05, 2019, 07:40:00 PM
"Warning Low Flying Owls", 36th & Louisville,  Tulsa.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190206/5c404d9dea8bc26177eb96e0fc305dee.jpg)

SM-T580

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on February 05, 2019, 08:05:50 PM
^That would have been super appropriate two days ago, with the big Superb Owl and everything!!  :)

This pedestrian symbol is walking with a beer mug.  Posted on a street outside of Lazy Magnolia Brewery in Kiln, MS

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7836/32043891857_cb49e0e1ce_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QPBjE6)
IMG_8111 (https://flic.kr/p/QPBjE6) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 09, 2019, 10:04:41 PM
This one in Tulsa.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/46991370162/in/dateposted-public/
Not only are the direction missing going WB but the exit only arrow is inconsistent with the regular arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on February 10, 2019, 05:33:05 AM
BC doesn't really use Freeway Entrance signs either, and the few times they have, they're usually black on white, but there's a pair of WSDOT style white on green Freeway Entrance signs at the same interchange in Vancouver:

#1: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.283717,-123.0313927,3a,15.2y,16.3h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxVoUgLnpRCZF1cAw_yzOXw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

#2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2806291,-123.0316273,3a,16.3y,224.3h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suA3uKP8NShcPN_s3edauLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg)

If this is how they all look, I'm thinking WV briefly had a Caltrans engineer heading things? :-D Very cool!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kendancy66 on February 10, 2019, 09:13:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg)

If this is how they all look, I'm thinking WV briefly had a Caltrans engineer heading things? :-D Very cool!

One difference is that the california signage is usually closer to the ground.  But the freeway entrance sign itself looks the same
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on February 10, 2019, 10:06:45 PM
I've seen "Freeway "Entrance" signage in Charlotte as well. https://goo.gl/maps/JcdnPEXCdV92
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 11, 2019, 01:38:50 AM
Quote from: kendancy66 on February 10, 2019, 09:13:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg

If this is how they all look, I'm thinking WV briefly had a Caltrans engineer heading things? :-D Very cool!

One difference is that the california signage is usually closer to the ground.  But the freeway entrance sign itself looks the same

that's true. The shields look bigger as well.

Quote from: csw on February 10, 2019, 10:06:45 PM
I've seen "Freeway "Entrance" signage in Charlotte as well. https://goo.gl/maps/JcdnPEXCdV92

Oh cool. Guess they're common than I thought! Do Carolinians even use the term "freeway"? That's why I've always thought of the signs as being a western thing..."freeway" being more of a west-coast term, with "highway" or "interstate" being more common in the east.

Quote from: bcroadguy on February 10, 2019, 05:33:05 AM
BC doesn't really use Freeway Entrance signs either, and the few times they have, they're usually black on white, but there's a pair of WSDOT style white on green Freeway Entrance signs at the same interchange in Vancouver:

#1: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.283717,-123.0313927,3a,15.2y,16.3h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxVoUgLnpRCZF1cAw_yzOXw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

#2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2806291,-123.0316273,3a,16.3y,224.3h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suA3uKP8NShcPN_s3edauLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

(missed this)

I've only seen the white "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" signs at the Hwy 91/Westminster Hwy interchange (northern ramp only). Never seen any white-on-green variants in BC before. Thanks for pointing those out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on February 11, 2019, 02:30:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 11, 2019, 01:38:50 AM
Quote from: kendancy66 on February 10, 2019, 09:13:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg

If this is how they all look, I'm thinking WV briefly had a Caltrans engineer heading things? :-D Very cool!

One difference is that the california signage is usually closer to the ground.  But the freeway entrance sign itself looks the same

that's true. The shields look bigger as well.

Quote from: csw on February 10, 2019, 10:06:45 PM
I've seen "Freeway "Entrance" signage in Charlotte as well. https://goo.gl/maps/JcdnPEXCdV92

Oh cool. Guess they're common than I thought! Do Carolinians even use the term "freeway"? That's why I've always thought of the signs as being a western thing..."freeway" being more of a west-coast term, with "highway" or "interstate" being more common in the east.

Quote from: bcroadguy on February 10, 2019, 05:33:05 AM
BC doesn't really use Freeway Entrance signs either, and the few times they have, they're usually black on white, but there's a pair of WSDOT style white on green Freeway Entrance signs at the same interchange in Vancouver:

#1: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.283717,-123.0313927,3a,15.2y,16.3h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxVoUgLnpRCZF1cAw_yzOXw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

#2:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2806291,-123.0316273,3a,16.3y,224.3h,91.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suA3uKP8NShcPN_s3edauLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

(missed this)

I've only seen the white "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" signs at the Hwy 91/Westminster Hwy interchange (northern ramp only). Never seen any white-on-green variants in BC before. Thanks for pointing those out.

I never noticed those Highway 91 signs before. They're kinda weird looking.
There's two more near Highway 1:

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.1975295,-122.8000951,3a,46.3y,47.79h,81.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRjleyOFopvrmsNv5hdMcJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2301428,-122.842767,3a,28.2y,140.33h,83.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saSDnnUkfFWuY3DtXormvjw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There also used to be this huge one on the Mary Hill Bypass:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.227782,-122.8194413,3a,18.7y,300.56h,88.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSanrMSybuAj5_FJOvBymw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 11, 2019, 03:41:21 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on February 11, 2019, 02:30:34 AM
There also used to be this huge one on the Mary Hill Bypass:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.227782,-122.8194413,3a,18.7y,300.56h,88.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSanrMSybuAj5_FJOvBymw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That on-ramp is a doppelganger for a WSDOT on-ramp...freeway entrance sign, and ramp meters! Two rare things in BC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 11, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
Some of WV's signs are blue, not green like the example pictured.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on February 11, 2019, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg)

If this is how they all look, I'm thinking WV briefly had a Caltrans engineer heading things? :-D Very cool!

There are a handful in Ohio.  I have seen two sets (in both cases they appear on both sides of the ramp).  One is on Colerain Ave (US-27) at the entrance to OH-126 in Cincinnati and the other is on OH-53 at the entrance to US-20/6/OH-19 in Fremont (only US-20 appears on the signs). They tend to be low like CA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 11, 2019, 01:40:28 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 11, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
Some of WV's signs are blue, not green like the example pictured.

I have seen exactly three blue "freeway entrance" sign in WA, all of which were in place for a very short time.

(https://i.imgur.com/2pKuWkG.png)

Quote from: frankenroad on February 11, 2019, 12:30:33 PM
There are a handful in Ohio.  I have seen two sets (in both cases they appear on both sides of the ramp).  One is on Colerain Ave (US-27) at the entrance to OH-126 in Cincinnati and the other is on OH-53 at the entrance to US-20/6/OH-19 in Fremont (only US-20 appears on the signs). They tend to be low like CA.

These are cool, although they're missing the coveted "freeway entrance" signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 11, 2019, 09:05:32 PM
Look at this: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4367947,-71.1901159,3a,17.7y,185.51h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJt_PbyAnOb830YJSCRxcDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
"Use signal for Right or Left Turn
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 12, 2019, 01:13:57 PM
I've been looking to post this for so long:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stop_Ahead_Symbol_Sign_(with_Words).jpg


It used to be on Flickr.


So was this one:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hernando_CR_576_%26_Hancock_Lake_Road.jpg

Actually, I'm pretty sure they were on Yahoo Photos before they were on Flickr.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on February 12, 2019, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 12, 2019, 01:13:57 PM
I've been looking to post this for so long:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stop_Ahead_Symbol_Sign_(with_Words).jpg

Reminds me of the ones used in Quebec (https://goo.gl/maps/FU8KZVGZHC82), only in English.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 12, 2019, 10:41:55 PM
Quote from: kendancy66 on February 10, 2019, 09:13:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 10, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 10, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 09, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 09, 2019, 11:42:44 PM
I feel like this has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum somewhere, but I couldn't find it in this thread.  This is on US-50 in Parkersburg WV.  I thought "Freeway Entrance" was strictly a California thing?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2674348,-81.5001927,3a,15.6y,171.01h,102.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTKyqMDmWR8p125bcNtDBbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

California, Nevada, Washington, et al...but definitely haven't seen it back east. The sign itself seems more similar to the CA style than that used by NV and WA.

I think West Virginia is one of the few (if not the only) states on the eastern side of the country to use these signs. Here's another example in Wheeling...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8076/29446536216_d34d09d6f0_z.jpg)

If this is how they all look, I'm thinking WV briefly had a Caltrans engineer heading things? :-D Very cool!

One difference is that the california signage is usually closer to the ground.  But the freeway entrance sign itself looks the same
Late to the party on "freeway entrance" signs discussion, but one comment...

California uses a slightly different design on their version, compared to Nevada and others (which I believe are vanilla MUTCD). Theirs has a slightly larger sign area and uses slightly smaller lettering that is more space out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 13, 2019, 01:08:27 AM
Quote from: roadfro on February 12, 2019, 10:41:55 PM
California uses a slightly different design on their version, compared to Nevada and others (which I believe are vanilla MUTCD). Theirs has a slightly larger sign area and uses slightly smaller lettering that is more space out.

D-modified, if I recall correctly?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on February 13, 2019, 08:42:31 PM
This sign was posted on the Hood Canal Bridge in 1979 after it partially collapsed in a windstorm. Not sure when it was taken down.

(https://i.imgur.com/FstIAH9.jpg)

Full gallery: https://www.kitsapsun.com/picture-gallery/news/2019/02/13/archives-storm-feb-13-1979-sinks-hood-canal-bridge/2862798002/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on February 13, 2019, 11:56:15 PM
Farmington, CT.  Not sure if it's a municipal sign or the country club put it up.  Crosswalk is correctly designated.
https://goo.gl/maps/MHLvJRKv98C2 (https://goo.gl/maps/MHLvJRKv98C2)


Chatham, MA.  Definitely a municipal sign that's seen better days.  Paddle sign and "keep right" signs are newer.
https://goo.gl/maps/4p9kJ7SrfEQ2 (https://goo.gl/maps/4p9kJ7SrfEQ2)

Bourne, MA.  State-spec, but becoming rarer.  They really only exist along the South Coast.  The Pike has one between Exits 9 and 11A somewhere.
https://goo.gl/maps/3Piy3tdGHeE2 (https://goo.gl/maps/3Piy3tdGHeE2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on February 14, 2019, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 11, 2019, 09:05:32 PM
Look at this: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4367947,-71.1901159,3a,17.7y,185.51h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJt_PbyAnOb830YJSCRxcDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
"Use signal for Right or Left Turn
Google Street View captured probably 20 different cars through its history, and not one obeyed this sign lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 15, 2019, 12:30:08 AM
Probably the most worn guide sign I've seen on a California State Highway.  In this case CA 92 east of Half Moon Bay:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7852/40078762583_675664331a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/244C8MZ)IMG_9301 (https://flic.kr/p/244C8MZ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Something a little on the good side but nonetheless has weird font; a Historic US 40 sign on CA 113/1st Street in Dixon:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7808/47044736661_5e5a3710c6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2eFbzck)IMG_0095 (https://flic.kr/p/2eFbzck) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on February 15, 2019, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 15, 2019, 12:30:08 AM
Probably the most worn guide sign I've seen on a California State Highway.  In this case CA 92 east of Half Moon Bay:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7852/40078762583_675664331a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/244C8MZ)IMG_9301 (https://flic.kr/p/244C8MZ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
At CalTrans:

"Hey, that sign on CA 92 is really worn."
"Will replacing the shields help?"
"Not really, I mean the whole si--"
"I ordered new shields!"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 15, 2019, 10:55:25 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 15, 2019, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 15, 2019, 12:30:08 AM
Probably the most worn guide sign I've seen on a California State Highway.  In this case CA 92 east of Half Moon Bay:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7852/40078762583_675664331a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/244C8MZ)IMG_9301 (https://flic.kr/p/244C8MZ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
At CalTrans:

"Hey, that sign on CA 92 is really worn."
"Will replacing the shields help?"
"Not really, I mean the whole si--"
"I ordered new shields!"

Unfortunately that mindset is par for the course for Caltrans around the Bay Area.  The plus side I suppose is some fantastically used up signage.  Really the variance by Caltrans District is all over the place.  I live in District 6 and the signage is actually pretty respectable with severely worn Signs getting properly replaced more often than not. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on February 15, 2019, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on February 14, 2019, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 11, 2019, 09:05:32 PM
Look at this: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4367947,-71.1901159,3a,17.7y,185.51h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJt_PbyAnOb830YJSCRxcDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
"Use signal for Right or Left Turn
Google Street View captured probably 20 different cars through its history, and not one obeyed this sign lol

Use your turn signal in Massachusetts????   Surely, you jest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 15, 2019, 06:17:46 PM
Anyone know what the idea was behind California's "3-way Signal" signs that largely don't exist anymore? I've found a few. The one below is in Burbank (http://bit.ly/2N9k80T).

The signs at this intersection were removed in 2016 or 2017. The intersection (even when the signs were up) has split phasing for the cross-street, and Alameda has a leading protected left from one direction, otherwise permissive.

(https://i.imgur.com/bvAvPXO.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on February 15, 2019, 07:28:19 PM
Found a bit of an oddball at CT-9 Exit 22 in Berlin CT: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6253545,-72.7438602,3a,15y,190.67h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7tKRhVjjFxNw0JtHoyjyhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

What gives with those 372 shields?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 16, 2019, 07:07:03 PM
Look at this: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2710278,-118.9431397,3a,15.1y,107.46h,94.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svsiaiRwlAwBGdxaOvFM49Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on February 17, 2019, 09:14:57 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 16, 2019, 07:07:03 PM
Look at this: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2710278,-118.9431397,3a,15.1y,107.46h,94.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svsiaiRwlAwBGdxaOvFM49Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It looks like to me a "SIGNALS SET FOR..." digital read out sign, meaning if you go the speed listed on the sign, you should catch all of the lights green for a non-stop drive.

But it being with railroad signals. I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 17, 2019, 06:48:34 PM
Judging by the numbers I'm seeing in historic street view, it appears to be a "YOUR SPEED" display, but I can't figure out why that would matter.

Perhaps the flashing yellow is to warn drivers if they're going too quickly? As in, slow down before you lose control at the grade-crossing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on February 18, 2019, 03:17:13 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 16, 2019, 07:07:03 PM
Look at this: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2710278,-118.9431397,3a,15.1y,107.46h,94.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svsiaiRwlAwBGdxaOvFM49Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
And if you pan left, there is an "oblique rail crossing"  symbol sign, with the oblique tracks going the wrong way ( / instead of \ ).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 18, 2019, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 15, 2019, 06:17:46 PM
Anyone know what the idea was behind California's "3-way Signal" signs that largely don't exist anymore? I've found a few. The one below is in Burbank (http://bit.ly/2N9k80T).

The signs at this intersection were removed in 2016 or 2017. The intersection (even when the signs were up) has split phasing for the cross-street, and Alameda has a leading protected left from one direction, otherwise permissive.

(https://i.imgur.com/bvAvPXO.png)
Jake that's really funny because I was just about to send in one: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0625668,-118.1861742,3a,51.5y,335.88h,92.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRZM-qrRDySLK5UVa-RTcZw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 18, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 15, 2019, 07:28:19 PM
Found a bit of an oddball at CT-9 Exit 22 in Berlin CT: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6253545,-72.7438602,3a,15y,190.67h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7tKRhVjjFxNw0JtHoyjyhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

What gives with those 372 shields?
The numerals appear to be in Series E-Modified... similar to what one sees on a typical speed limit sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on February 18, 2019, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 18, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 15, 2019, 07:28:19 PM
Found a bit of an oddball at CT-9 Exit 22 in Berlin CT: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6253545,-72.7438602,3a,15y,190.67h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7tKRhVjjFxNw0JtHoyjyhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

What gives with those 372 shields?
The numerals appear to be in Series E-Modified... similar to what one sees on a typical speed limit sign.
Is that the same font that's used on some of the I-691 shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5538308,-72.8127787,3a,19.1y,21.44h,86.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sP3uqjGtVbc-EeUDZvsB97Q!2e0!5s20170701T000000!7i13312!8i6656)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 18, 2019, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 18, 2019, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 18, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 15, 2019, 07:28:19 PM
Found a bit of an oddball at CT-9 Exit 22 in Berlin CT: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6253545,-72.7438602,3a,15y,190.67h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7tKRhVjjFxNw0JtHoyjyhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

What gives with those 372 shields?
The numerals appear to be in Series E-Modified... similar to what one sees on a typical speed limit sign.
Is that the same font that's used on some of the I-691 shields (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5538308,-72.8127787,3a,19.1y,21.44h,86.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sP3uqjGtVbc-EeUDZvsB97Q!2e0!5s20170701T000000!7i13312!8i6656)?
Yes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on February 18, 2019, 05:36:20 PM
Some from Aroostook County, Maine this weekend...

Cross-country skier warning sign along ME 161 east of Caribou. Several highways around the county have these posted, and I don't think I've seen them anywhere else.

(https://i.imgur.com/PluUh1Ql.jpg)

Euro-style arrow on a roundabout guide sign along US 1 in Caribou.

(https://i.imgur.com/oQiMuGVl.jpg)

A BRAKE FOR MOOSE warning sign posted along ME 11 southbound somewhere between Fort Kent and Ashland. These are mostly found in New Hampshire, but there are several roads around Aroostook County that have them as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/QGxUFQhl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 18, 2019, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: Ian on February 18, 2019, 05:36:20 PM
Euro-style arrow on a roundabout guide sign along US 1 in Caribou.

(https://i.imgur.com/oQiMuGVl.jpg)

That one appears to be particularly *British*, as the corners of the diagram are curved, as is required by the British road sign manuals. Even the style that I'm used to seeing in BC, which is also very similar to the British roundabout diagrammatics, do not use rounded corners (http://bit.ly/2GuVwPH).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 18, 2019, 06:14:06 PM
Another incredibly haggard guide sign from the Bay Area, this time off of I-280:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7889/32197533797_3287e166cb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R4bM44)280Ia (https://flic.kr/p/R4bM44) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on February 18, 2019, 09:27:12 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 18, 2019, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 15, 2019, 06:17:46 PM
Anyone know what the idea was behind California's "3-way Signal" signs that largely don't exist anymore? I've found a few. The one below is in Burbank (http://bit.ly/2N9k80T).

The signs at this intersection were removed in 2016 or 2017. The intersection (even when the signs were up) has split phasing for the cross-street, and Alameda has a leading protected left from one direction, otherwise permissive.

(https://i.imgur.com/bvAvPXO.png)
Jake that's really funny because I was just about to send in one: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0625668,-118.1861742,3a,51.5y,335.88h,92.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRZM-qrRDySLK5UVa-RTcZw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
3 way signal is basically a warning for cars not to jump the green because the signal is complex.  Due to split phasing or leading green (on other side) your green does not follow immediately when cross street gets red.  As mentioned, used to be common in CA, especially when left turn signals were less common.

Edited to add:

Here's an article that may explain it:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/01/roadshow-what-exactly-is-a-three-way-signal/


Take a look at this intersection.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1148593,-118.3741269,3a,75y,159.78h,94.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s54dmR8PegGkLHKPIOxvphw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D54dmR8PegGkLHKPIOxvphw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D223.74068%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

The 3-way signal sign is on Laurel Canyon, but only in the direction where there is no arrow, not on Lookout Mountain or at the side with the arrow.  It is meant to indicate that there are phases with arrows.

One problem with the sign is that it isn't placed consistently, so its meaning isn't very clear.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 19, 2019, 08:08:38 AM
Oooooh, that reminds me of this sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0660446,-70.7578005,3a,17.6y,22.52h,102.13t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1shksj0FESouRVgx0dn4EdBQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dhksj0FESouRVgx0dn4EdBQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D339.02292%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
or this one: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4057645,-71.1423419,3a,28.7y,141.1h,110.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssV5O1tbwnBN9vQNd_1saSA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
or this one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4164749,-71.157739,3a,15y,275.23h,95.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPBkAiPzgMzb6wafYCFFE7w!2e0!5s20111201T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on February 19, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
These intersections have signs warning of yellow trap. I haven't seen signs like these anywhere else.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.092419,-77.6789009,3a,15y,271.1h,101.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5aM_TDWKuATs9Ws797oibw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0927794,-77.681722,3a,15y,66.73h,105.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4S1vBay8fEPCkp51poWsNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cu2010 on February 19, 2019, 01:15:06 PM
I see those signs all over the place. The North Country is plastered with them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 19, 2019, 01:21:28 PM
I've seen those everywhere, until MA installed a sh** load of FYAs, here's one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3974173,-71.1301299,3a,20.7y,311.76h,97.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sn89-0mbXDqMCpbxGvn6Seg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dn89-0mbXDqMCpbxGvn6Seg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D6.2098346%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on February 19, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And what is the reason for this sign? The only thing you need to know is what color your light is and be sure you act only on your signal indication.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on February 19, 2019, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on February 19, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And what is the reason for this sign? The only thing you need to know is what color your light is and be sure you act only on your signal indication.
If you have a yield on green for left turns, plenty of drivers will try to make the left in the yellow phase, hoping oncoming cars will stop.  Having the extended green means that the oncoming cars are far less likely to stop in your yellow phase (there's a similar setup near my apartment).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 19, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47099001092/in/dateposted-public/
This assembly faces US 77 N Bound where it turns right onto US 54 & 400, but the way the arrows are one can wonder where does US 77 go from here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on February 19, 2019, 08:25:57 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 19, 2019, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on February 19, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And what is the reason for this sign? The only thing you need to know is what color your light is and be sure you act only on your signal indication.
If you have a yield on green for left turns, plenty of drivers will try to make the left in the yellow phase, hoping oncoming cars will stop.  Having the extended green means that the oncoming cars are far less likely to stop in your yellow phase (there's a similar setup near my apartment).
That is what is called yellow trap. Oncoming traffic has a lagging protected left turn phase. This situation is why flashing yellow arrows came out in the first place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 19, 2019, 08:38:00 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 19, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47099001092/in/dateposted-public/
This assembly faces US 77 N Bound where it turns right onto US 54 & 400, but the way the arrows are one can wonder where does US 77 go from here.
My interpretation is the truck route goes in both directions while  US 77 goes right.  The double arrow placard should go under the truck route sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 19, 2019, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 19, 2019, 08:38:00 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 19, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47099001092/in/dateposted-public/
This assembly faces US 77 N Bound where it turns right onto US 54 & 400, but the way the arrows are one can wonder where does US 77 go from here.
My interpretation is the truck route goes in both directions while  US 77 goes right.  The double arrow placard should go under the truck route sign.
Correct US 77 does go right here, but like you said the arrow for the truck route should be underneath it not long side of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on February 20, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on February 19, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And what is the reason for this sign? The only thing you need to know is what color your light is and be sure you act only on your signal indication.

It's completely legal to enter the intersection on green, wait until oncoming traffic stops after their extended green phase, and make a left turn on a stale red light (this may not be true in a few states, but they're aberrations as far as I'm concerned). The sign gives you useful information in that case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 20, 2019, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on February 20, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on February 19, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And what is the reason for this sign? The only thing you need to know is what color your light is and be sure you act only on your signal indication.

It's completely legal to enter the intersection on green, wait until oncoming traffic stops after their extended green phase, and make a left turn on a stale red light (this may not be true in a few states, but they're aberrations as far as I'm concerned). The sign gives you useful information in that case.
Yes, today I almost got into a yellow trap crash, someone was yellowed trapped and we had to slam on the brakes and almost crashed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 20, 2019, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on February 19, 2019, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 19, 2019, 01:40:10 PM
As far as I can remember, the only place I've ever seen those signs is on NY 5 in Camillus:
Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0362479,-76.334833,3a,15y,64.36h,104.53t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DMK8GsXFkGzAZcYmJZsivGQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.90535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100)
Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0363615,-76.3344851,3a,15.2y,249.67h,105.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snKui9A44o3ZfbqeaIPpMbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

And what is the reason for this sign? The only thing you need to know is what color your light is and be sure you act only on your signal indication.

To be a bit more specific than previous replies, the sign is to alert drivers that the oncoming traffic's green orb signal lasts longer than "your" green orb signal. If you're waiting to turn left inside the box, and you see that sign, you need to be aware that the subsequent red light does not necessarily give you the OK to turn (as it normally would), as through traffic will still have a green orb. You're still free to be out there, so long as you turn when a gap becomes available (otherwise you'll risk blocking the box).

If you're ever faced with this situation, don't be afraid to pull forward to wait* (some drivers may choose against doing so). It's still legal to be in the box. Just continue watching for a gap, even after the light turns red. But never reverse back into the left turn lane. I've seen drivers do this, and minor fender-benders are often the result.

* please excuse me giving someone twice my age some advice...I've never seen these signs in person, and I suspect those who are much older than myself may not have either (depending on the state, as many don't allow this situation to occur anyways); just some friendly advice in case you happen to see one, but aren't sure what to do (as I've studied them before and have learned the proper procedure when encountering them).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on February 20, 2019, 04:26:57 PM
^
Regarding the discussion on yellow trap those signs are in the MUTCD as W25-1 and 2
http://www.trafficsign.us/w25.html

EDIT: I added this because I originally thought those are custom signs that only NYSDOT used.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on February 20, 2019, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 20, 2019, 02:59:20 PM
* please excuse me giving someone twice my age some advice...I've never seen these signs in person, and I suspect those who are much older than myself may not have either (depending on the state, as many don't allow this situation to occur anyways); just some friendly advice in case you happen to see one, but aren't sure what to do (as I've studied them before and have learned the proper procedure when encountering them).

Don't apologize for giving me advice no matter our age difference. It took me about 10-15 minutes of reading the MUTCD description for the sign's use before it finally clicked with me what the hell it all meant. These signs first appeared here about 5 years ago, and I never knew what it was for until now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 21, 2019, 02:46:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 19, 2019, 09:24:19 PM

Quote from: Big John on February 19, 2019, 08:38:00 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on February 19, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47099001092/in/dateposted-public/
This assembly faces US 77 N Bound where it turns right onto US 54 & 400, but the way the arrows are one can wonder where does US 77 go from here.

My interpretation is the truck route goes in both directions while  US 77 goes right.  The double arrow placard should go under the truck route sign.

Correct US 77 does go right here, but like you said the arrow for the truck route should be underneath it not long side of it.

Augusta and El Dorado both have signed truck routes.  I dislike TRUCK ROUTE signs that look like highway shield plaques in general.  To my eyes, the assembly on the left looks like it's for TRUCK ROUTE 54 / TRUCK ROUTE 400.  My preference would be for a signed truck route to be posted separately from any other shields in order to avoid confusing it with a bannered route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 22, 2019, 09:42:25 PM
Look at this school zone speed limit 20 sign: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190223/2b9e8d76597a20f774376e5c373dd222.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190223/d16fb20af34eb2c7720e307ad3455ff8.jpg)
I'm very sorry for the bad photo but the sign reads:
WHEN
FLASHING
Then shows a picture of a school| speed limit 20 sign, when we did see it flash it was hard to tell it was flashing, I wonder why they didn't use a normal sign... if it ain't broke don't fix it


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:11:27 AM
Is there a flashing light above the sign? Hard to tell by the photo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 23, 2019, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:11:27 AM
Is there a flashing light above the sign? Hard to tell by the photo.
The sign itself flashes, it's one of those signs that has LEDs built in... sorry for the poor photos I couldn't stop and the speed limit was around 45


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:25:21 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 23, 2019, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:11:27 AM
Is there a flashing light above the sign? Hard to tell by the photo.
The sign itself flashes, it's one of those signs that has LEDs built in... sorry for the poor photos I couldn't stop and the speed limit was around 45

No it's good, I can see the outline of the LEDs on the back of the sign (now that you mention it). Not sure I've seen that style of flasher utilized for a school-zone limit before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 23, 2019, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:25:21 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 23, 2019, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:11:27 AM
Is there a flashing light above the sign? Hard to tell by the photo.
The sign itself flashes, it's one of those signs that has LEDs built in... sorry for the poor photos I couldn't stop and the speed limit was around 45

No it's good, I can see the outline of the LEDs on the back of the sign (now that you mention it). Not sure I've seen that style of flasher utilized for a school-zone limit before.

And I don't think that is a kosher way to go about it either. Firstly, the flashing LEDs are meant to enhance the conspicuity of the sign, not as the actual traffic control device (you need a beacon for that). Secondly, if this sign is the sole means of indicating the school zone speed limit is in effect, then it is not legally enforceable because it is not a regulatory sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 23, 2019, 07:20:13 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 23, 2019, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:25:21 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 23, 2019, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2019, 02:11:27 AM
Is there a flashing light above the sign? Hard to tell by the photo.
The sign itself flashes, it's one of those signs that has LEDs built in... sorry for the poor photos I couldn't stop and the speed limit was around 45

No it's good, I can see the outline of the LEDs on the back of the sign (now that you mention it). Not sure I've seen that style of flasher utilized for a school-zone limit before.

And I don't think that is a kosher way to go about it either. Firstly, the flashing LEDs are meant to enhance the conspicuity of the sign, not as the actual traffic control device (you need a beacon for that). Secondly, if this sign is the sole means of indicating the school zone speed limit is in effect, then it is not legally enforceable because it is not a regulatory sign.
And also it looks new, yet it was flashing on the week of a state wide February break passing a public elementary school, because of this, we choose not to respect it, also because we wanted to get to railfan ASAP.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on February 24, 2019, 08:05:28 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the "divided highway" sign used on intersections controlled by stoplights, but I've seen it in a few places on DE-141...

At DE-34: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7483053,-75.6101995,3a,34.6y,195.93h,85.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdi9FNQonXwV39hAtQrU1xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

At DE-48: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7585451,-75.6043709,3a,75y,26.54h,80.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLgMnzVeVVT09Ec-f5QQzXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on February 25, 2019, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 24, 2019, 08:05:28 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the "divided highway" sign used on intersections controlled by stoplights, but I've seen it in a few places on DE-141...

At DE-34: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7483053,-75.6101995,3a,34.6y,195.93h,85.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdi9FNQonXwV39hAtQrU1xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

At DE-48: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7585451,-75.6043709,3a,75y,26.54h,80.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLgMnzVeVVT09Ec-f5QQzXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Here's one in Victor, NY on NY96.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0092967,-77.4436903,3a,37.5y,297.79h,84.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBhMc9_T4pq0nxEuoo6dGbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 25, 2019, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on February 25, 2019, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 24, 2019, 08:05:28 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the "divided highway" sign used on intersections controlled by stoplights, but I've seen it in a few places on DE-141...

At DE-34: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7483053,-75.6101995,3a,34.6y,195.93h,85.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdi9FNQonXwV39hAtQrU1xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

At DE-48: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7585451,-75.6043709,3a,75y,26.54h,80.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLgMnzVeVVT09Ec-f5QQzXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Here's one in Victor, NY on NY96.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0092967,-77.4436903,3a,37.5y,297.79h,84.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBhMc9_T4pq0nxEuoo6dGbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

All are incorrect uses of the sign, as it actually violates a standard listed in the MUTCD.

Section 2B.42 indicates this sign shall be used at unsignalized intersections where the main road has a median width of 30 feet or greater. Although an option allows for its use at signalized intersections, my read of the section indicates that the sign is only supposed to be used when the median is 30+ feet wide.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 25, 2019, 11:32:44 AM
Wow.  I think I have seen a lot of those signs at signalized intersections over the years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 25, 2019, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on February 22, 2019, 09:42:25 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190223/2b9e8d76597a20f774376e5c373dd222.jpg)

Quote from: roadfro on February 23, 2019, 06:11:07 PM
if this sign is the sole means of indicating the school zone speed limit is in effect, then it is not legally enforceable because it is not a regulatory sign.

↑ This. ↑

That's a warning sign, not a speed limit sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on February 25, 2019, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 25, 2019, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on February 25, 2019, 09:54:46 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on February 24, 2019, 08:05:28 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the "divided highway" sign used on intersections controlled by stoplights, but I've seen it in a few places on DE-141...

At DE-34: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7483053,-75.6101995,3a,34.6y,195.93h,85.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdi9FNQonXwV39hAtQrU1xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

At DE-48: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7585451,-75.6043709,3a,75y,26.54h,80.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLgMnzVeVVT09Ec-f5QQzXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Here's one in Victor, NY on NY96.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0092967,-77.4436903,3a,37.5y,297.79h,84.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBhMc9_T4pq0nxEuoo6dGbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

All are incorrect uses of the sign, as it actually violates a standard listed in the MUTCD.

Section 2B.42 indicates this sign shall be used at unsignalized intersections where the main road has a median width of 30 feet or greater. Although an option allows for its use at signalized intersections, my read of the section indicates that the sign is only supposed to be used when the median is 30+ feet wide.

Is there a guideline about its use at split intersections, whether they're signalized (https://goo.gl/maps/16TbLH5PnhL2) or unsignalized (https://goo.gl/maps/7ZgYNdkYK9o)?

And while we're on the subject, this example (https://goo.gl/maps/TM9vZ6CfLTB2) caught me off guard, as I'd never have considered this intersection as "divided". But I guess it makes sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 26, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: US 89 on February 25, 2019, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 25, 2019, 11:00:11 AM
Section 2B.42 indicates [the divided highway] sign shall be used at unsignalized intersections where the main road has a median width of 30 feet or greater. Although an option allows for its use at signalized intersections, my read of the section indicates that the sign is only supposed to be used when the median is 30+ feet wide.

Is there a guideline about its use at split intersections, whether they're signalized (https://goo.gl/maps/16TbLH5PnhL2) or unsignalized (https://goo.gl/maps/7ZgYNdkYK9o)?

And while we're on the subject, this example (https://goo.gl/maps/TM9vZ6CfLTB2) caught me off guard, as I'd never have considered this intersection as "divided". But I guess it makes sense.

Split intersections could be classified as a divided highway. There is no specific provision in the MUTCD regarding the divided highway sign used at split intersections (the MUTCD doesn't really define a split intersection anyway).

BTW: Your signalized example is not MUTCD compliant, because the divided highway sign is supposed to posted on the near right side of the intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on February 26, 2019, 01:34:06 PM
Speaking of yellow trap signs, here's what MD used: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9296604,-76.9314076,3a,15y,128.6h,99.46t/am=t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQImVY0TyAfwD4Kx6ByrE5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on February 27, 2019, 02:02:28 AM
No u-turns allowed here, so the sign says to use the roundabout. Seen on the Microsoft HQ campus in Redmond, WA (exact location here (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6381085,-122.1333976,3a,50.6y,291.8h,78.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s97I16l8vUFsF7mpBB2A4aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)).

(https://i.imgur.com/ZKWpzSK.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on February 27, 2019, 01:53:23 PM
This is an interesting intersection sign, the likes of which I have never seen before.  This is on US12 east near White Pigeon, MI.  I like that the name of the road is called "Crooked Creek Road;" it looks like the eponymous creek isn't the only thing that's crooked!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7821/46285332125_59662b4cca_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dw5qFF)
IMG_8976 (https://flic.kr/p/2dw5qFF) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 27, 2019, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on February 27, 2019, 01:53:23 PM
This is an interesting intersection sign, the likes of which I have never seen before.  This is on US12 east near White Pigeon, MI.  I like that the name of the road is called "Crooked Creek Road;" it looks like the eponymous creek isn't the only thing that's crooked!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7821/46285332125_59662b4cca_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dw5qFF)
IMG_8976 (https://flic.kr/p/2dw5qFF) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr

Runes
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 27, 2019, 06:48:21 PM
It's the Greek letter Ψ.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on February 27, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
Crooked Creek Road? Or is it really Cameltoe Lane?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 28, 2019, 02:28:12 AM
I came across this a while ago, I don't even remember the exact date when I took this...

Taken on Markham Street in Little Rock, within walking distance of War Memorial Stadium.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528461864016019477/541808250060800000/IMG_0033.JPG)

This is what happens when you have a 9-hole golf course right next to one of the busiest streets in the city, I guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 28, 2019, 03:14:35 AM
I've definitely never seen the word "errant" on a road sign!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 28, 2019, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 28, 2019, 02:28:12 AM
I came across this a while ago, I don't even remember the exact date when I took this...

Taken on Markham Street in Little Rock, within walking distance of War Memorial Stadium.


This is what happens when you have a 9-hole golf course right next to one of the busiest streets in the city, I guess.

Something similar by a golf course near Woodinville. (https://goo.gl/maps/V7bvpPkuf7T2)  The street is public, but the golf course was private, I think.  The course is closed now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 28, 2019, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 05, 2013, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 05, 2013, 02:41:24 PM
Going south on I-495 in Massachusetts, between exits 31 and 30, the shields for 2A and 110 on the exit sign are different fonts.

My picture is a bit strange because Google Maps censored I-495 going south.

http://goo.gl/maps/jpjB4
More likely, it was just that the GSV guy hasn't yet driven both sides of the road.  I run into that problem quite often when using GSV.
Here's a better GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5438757,-71.4892936,3a,75y,212.14h,85.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snDzsdN50AbXRazeSdwXbGw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) of that BGS circa 2017.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 28, 2019, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 28, 2019, 02:28:12 AM
I came across this a while ago, I don't even remember the exact date when I took this...

Taken on Markham Street in Little Rock, within walking distance of War Memorial Stadium.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528461864016019477/541808250060800000/IMG_0033.JPG)

This is what happens when you have a 9-hole golf course right next to one of the busiest streets in the city, I guess.

Now, how the flying f^$% am I supposed to watch for errant golf balls while driving, what do they expect me to do about it if I see one?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 28, 2019, 07:38:29 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 28, 2019, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 28, 2019, 02:28:12 AM
I came across this a while ago, I don't even remember the exact date when I took this...

Taken on Markham Street in Little Rock, within walking distance of War Memorial Stadium.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528461864016019477/541808250060800000/IMG_0033.JPG)

This is what happens when you have a 9-hole golf course right next to one of the busiest streets in the city, I guess.

Now, how the flying f^$% am I supposed to watch for errant golf balls while driving, what do they expect me to do about it if I see one?

A high school friend of mine got a brand-spanking-new 1980 Trans Am upon his graduation from high school. He was driving along I-64 from Lexington toward Winchester, coming home from UK one weekend his freshman year, when a golf ball from the golf course that was adjacent to I-64 just outside Winchester smacked his windshield and broke it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on March 02, 2019, 02:51:41 AM
Very unique temporary signs on the PA Turnpike during the reconstruction and widening project in central PA... It tells the truckers on which lane they should be in...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1707045,-77.5643055,3a,75y,70.26h,97.52t/am=t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siwIyT6xRjtgmvcrUAWxEQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It looks like they were imported from Canada (I'm thinking Quebec in particular)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 02, 2019, 02:51:41 AM
Very unique temporary signs on the PA Turnpike during the reconstruction and widening project in central PA... It tells the truckers on which lane they should be in...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1707045,-77.5643055,3a,75y,70.26h,97.52t/am=t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siwIyT6xRjtgmvcrUAWxEQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It looks like they were imported from Canada (I'm thinking Quebec in particular)
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

Pixel 2

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 02, 2019, 02:51:41 AM
Very unique temporary signs on the PA Turnpike during the reconstruction and widening project in central PA... It tells the truckers on which lane they should be in...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1707045,-77.5643055,3a,75y,70.26h,97.52t/am=t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siwIyT6xRjtgmvcrUAWxEQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It looks like they were imported from Canada (I'm thinking Quebec in particular)

Yeah, they are definitely Canadian style, although (IIRC) Canada would have a side view of the truck instead of a rear-view.

Very interesting find!

Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.

But, assuming blue wasn't an option, for whatever reason, I'd absolutely be fine with red circles with slashes, or green circles without slashes. Still better than all-text signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on March 03, 2019, 01:44:45 PM
A few days ago, I drove past another yellow trap warning sign on NY 5 in Solvay I forgot about.  While looking at the intersection in Street View, I noticed the wording is different in the opposing directions.  Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0472977,-76.1991111,3a,15y,273.67h,104.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3hSN4ufJPPruAluk67HJQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), the sign reads "ONCOMING TRAFFIC HAS EXTENDED GREEN", and eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0472854,-76.199211,3a,15y,79.82h,112.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIDWi3dZyR4yz4bAzdntqOg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), the sign reads "ONCOMING TRAFFIC MAY HAVE EXTENDED GREEN".  I was driving westbound, so that's the sign I saw.  I haven't paid close attention, but I think I've seen the eastbound green light turn red without a lagging left before, even with the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 01:36:00 AM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png

Thank you for the diagram. Illustrates the problem very nicely!

I did find it strange, last time I was in Europe (well, the UK) that prohibitive signage was red circles without a slash. Which seems odd to me, though "OK" signage is a totally different color scheme, so it works fine overall. I definitely prefer "with slash" when possible, but also blue and red as the primary OK/prohibited colors, instead of green and red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 04, 2019, 05:13:45 AM
The only problem is that blue doesn't have the "OK/allowed" connotation that green does in American culture, so the message may be lost entirely on some drivers.

A better option would be a green circle and a red X (with no circle). A red X is noticeable and can't be confused for anything but a prohibitory message.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 04, 2019, 06:31:11 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on March 02, 2019, 02:51:41 AM
Very unique temporary signs on the PA Turnpike during the reconstruction and widening project in central PA... It tells the truckers on which lane they should be in...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1707045,-77.5643055,3a,75y,70.26h,97.52t/am=t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siwIyT6xRjtgmvcrUAWxEQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It looks like they were imported from Canada (I'm thinking Quebec in particular)

Yeah, they are definitely Canadian style, although (IIRC) Canada would have a side view of the truck instead of a rear-view.

Very interesting find!

Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.

As an aside, my son is colorblind in the purple / dark red / dark-medium blue range (it all appears "blue" to him), but I don't think that affects too much in terms of road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 04, 2019, 08:07:19 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2019, 05:13:45 AM
The only problem is that blue doesn't have the "OK/allowed" connotation that green does in American culture, so the message may be lost entirely on some drivers.

A better option would be a green circle and a red X (with no circle). A red X is noticeable and can't be confused for anything but a prohibitory message.
Isn't that the standard for Hazmat signage too (except with the circle)?  https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2667046,-76.6141269,3a,29.5y,92.61h,98.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF0f5esX0A8max1NS-zcU8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on March 04, 2019, 12:22:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 01:36:00 AM
I did find it strange, last time I was in Europe (well, the UK) that prohibitive signage was red circles without a slash. Which seems odd to me, though "OK" signage is a totally different color scheme, so it works fine overall. I definitely prefer "with slash" when possible, but also blue and red as the primary OK/prohibited colors, instead of green and red.
I agree. All countries use slash for prohibitied turns though, while only Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, and Sweden use them for all prohibitions. Here's a good overview (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_European_road_signs).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 04, 2019, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 01:36:00 AM
I did find it strange, last time I was in Europe (well, the UK) that prohibitive signage was red circles without a slash.

That got me in trouble once.  I thought I could use a pathway across a railroad track at a train station because the sign didn't have a slash through the symbol.  Got yelled at.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2019, 05:13:45 AM
The only problem is that blue doesn't have the "OK/allowed" connotation that green does in American culture, so the message may be lost entirely on some drivers.

A better option would be a green circle and a red X (with no circle). A red X is noticeable and can't be confused for anything but a prohibitory message.

I am inclined to believe you, though the US doesn't currently use green on signs to indicate something as "OK" or "allowed". Plus, blue is commonly recognized, especially in sports, as being the opposite to red (even if green actually is). If we were to introduce such signage, blue is something that should at least be tried, in light of introducing colors that are easily confused by colorblind individuals.

I shall imagine that an "X" shape isn't used, because it would block too much of the shape below. This could have the side-effect of causing drivers to spend too much time looking at the sign, deciphering the symbol.

Quote from: kphoger on March 04, 2019, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 01:36:00 AM
I did find it strange, last time I was in Europe (well, the UK) that prohibitive signage was red circles without a slash.

That got me in trouble once.  I thought I could use a pathway across a railroad track at a train station because the sign didn't have a slash through the symbol.  Got yelled at.

I guess it makes sense there, as blue backgrounds tell you what you can do (red-on-white circle is a no-no). It's the one thing about their signs that I'm not a huge fan of. Slashes still have a place, IMO, even if the color schemes should be enough info.

Quote from: riiga on March 04, 2019, 12:22:53 PM
I agree. All countries use slash for prohibitied turns though, while only Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, and Sweden use them for all prohibitions. Here's a good overview (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_European_road_signs).

Thank you for that link. Few more slashes than I thought!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on March 04, 2019, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2019, 05:13:45 AM
The only problem is that blue doesn't have the "OK/allowed" connotation that green does in American culture, so the message may be lost entirely on some drivers.

A better option would be a green circle and a red X (with no circle). A red X is noticeable and can't be confused for anything but a prohibitory message.
I am inclined to believe you, though the US doesn't currently use green on signs to indicate something as "OK" or "allowed".

It does for hazardous material. See R14-2 and R14-4 (vs R14-3 and R14-5).

Edit: Green is also used on signs which explicitly allow parking at certain times or for certain lengths.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 06:09:02 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on March 04, 2019, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2019, 05:13:45 AM
The only problem is that blue doesn't have the "OK/allowed" connotation that green does in American culture, so the message may be lost entirely on some drivers.

A better option would be a green circle and a red X (with no circle). A red X is noticeable and can't be confused for anything but a prohibitory message.
I am inclined to believe you, though the US doesn't currently use green on signs to indicate something as "OK" or "allowed".

It does for hazardous material. See R14-2 and R14-4 (vs R14-3 and R14-5).

Edit: Green is also used on signs which explicitly allow parking at certain times or for certain lengths.

Ahh, yeah. No shit. :pan: My bad!

I shall refrain: if we were to fully introduce "permissive" signage, perhaps a change to blue might be a consideration.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 04, 2019, 08:03:54 PM
I thought a blue circle meant "required".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 04, 2019, 08:03:54 PM
I thought a blue circle meant "required".

I think it's an equivalent to our regulatory signage. Which has variable uses, from what's OK, to what's absolutely required.

If we were to adopt blue circles, they'd probably be used for heavy vehicle route guidance first, then maybe as a replacement for the "ONLY" signs at intersections. Then maybe as a way to indicate which lanes were OK to use (bus lanes would probably get two signs: one blue "bus" sign, and another white sign with a red slash over a car symbol).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on March 05, 2019, 04:15:58 PM
Here's an interesting one in East Haddam, CT, warning drivers of the approach to the East Haddam Swing Bridge.  Only one I know of its kind and it might not be in the state spec book.
https://goo.gl/maps/TEYjYKcA7C42 (https://goo.gl/maps/TEYjYKcA7C42)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 06, 2019, 03:17:05 PM
I've always found these signs on The Circle in Georgetown DE to be pretty interesting, with the vertical alignment of the towns/destinations:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6899127,-75.3855354,3a,15y,260.36h,86.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqg8wMP6o9I3AA2HMI4L9qw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 05, 2019, 04:15:58 PM
Here's an interesting one in East Haddam, CT, warning drivers of the approach to the East Haddam Swing Bridge.  Only one I know of its kind and it might not be in the state spec book.
https://goo.gl/maps/TEYjYKcA7C42 (https://goo.gl/maps/TEYjYKcA7C42)
That one's pretty unique.  It also kind of has a ConnDOT feel to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 06, 2019, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on March 06, 2019, 03:17:05 PM
I've always found these signs on The Circle in Georgetown DE to be pretty interesting, with the vertical alignment of the towns/destinations:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6899127,-75.3855354,3a,15y,260.36h,86.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqg8wMP6o9I3AA2HMI4L9qw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Not a fan.  Hard to read.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 06, 2019, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 04, 2019, 08:03:54 PM
I thought a blue circle meant "required".

I think it's an equivalent to our regulatory signage. Which has variable uses, from what's OK, to what's absolutely required.

If we were to adopt blue circles, they'd probably be used for heavy vehicle route guidance first, then maybe as a replacement for the "ONLY" signs at intersections. Then maybe as a way to indicate which lanes were OK to use (bus lanes would probably get two signs: one blue "bus" sign, and another white sign with a red slash over a car symbol).

Mocked up a couple examples of how blue could be used for a bus lane sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/HOwur5P.png) (https://i.imgur.com/5sQfuC8.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on March 06, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)

I rather like the signs.  The first two can replace the "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE" signage.  The latter then becomes a double symbol sign (the symbol inside, and the pennant itself being a giant arrow pointing you back to the right).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 06, 2019, 06:37:49 PM
I call this The One Man Band Assembly...on Florida's Turnpike:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4523/26805285859_d97687c4ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GQG6B2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 06, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 06, 2019, 06:37:49 PM
I call this The One Man Band Assembly...on Florida's Turnpike:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4523/26805285859_d97687c4ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GQG6B2)
Whoa....there's just so much going on.  I have to ask, where are the destinations on 595?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on March 07, 2019, 06:43:50 AM
Here is a DC sign:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190307/98a122cb1a9c953a4d30afcd098ccdb1.jpg)
Note I didn't see any cameras around


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 07, 2019, 07:01:39 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 07, 2019, 06:43:50 AM
Note I didn't see any cameras around

...what did you take the picture with?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 07, 2019, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 07, 2019, 06:43:50 AM

Note I didn't see any cameras around


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When Renton installed photo enforcement on some intersections, they posted photo enforcement signs on surrounding other intersections.  The intersections with cameras had obvious equipment installs and flashes for cars in the intersection after red, but the other intersections didn't.  Would they install hidden cameras on some intersections but not others?  How stupid do they think we are?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on March 07, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 07, 2019, 07:01:39 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 07, 2019, 06:43:50 AM
Note I didn't see any TRAFFIC cameras around

...what did you take the picture with?
Oh lmao.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 07, 2019, 01:14:58 PM
When was the last time you saw yellow Road Closed barricades?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:From_time_to_time_it_happend_to_our_life_...._we_have_to_turn_around_and_to_start_all_over_again_(8863141371).jpg


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 08, 2019, 05:24:40 PM


Quote from: Brandon on March 06, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)

I rather like the signs.  The first two can replace the "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE" signage.  The latter then becomes a double symbol sign (the symbol inside, and the pennant itself being a giant arrow pointing you back to the right).

Fun fact: The "do not pass" signs depicted here were actually considered for inclusion in the 2009 MUTCD, but the FHWA ultimately didn't adopt it as there was concern that it wouldn't be intuitively understood.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 08, 2019, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 04, 2019, 08:03:54 PM
I thought a blue circle meant "required".

I think it's an equivalent to our regulatory signage. Which has variable uses, from what's OK, to what's absolutely required.

If we were to adopt blue circles, they'd probably be used for heavy vehicle route guidance first, then maybe as a replacement for the "ONLY" signs at intersections. Then maybe as a way to indicate which lanes were OK to use (bus lanes would probably get two signs: one blue "bus" sign, and another white sign with a red slash over a car symbol).

I remember this being discussed in another thread:

[left arrow in blue circle]
Mon-Fri
15:00-18:00

This would mean that you must turn left during those hours. If it was a green circle, it would mean that turning left is only allowed during those hours.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on March 08, 2019, 06:52:57 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190308/c5f00e0844b7234398e297d64087effc.jpg)
Here's an interesting left turn on green arrow only sign


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on March 09, 2019, 04:42:06 PM
I just saw a YouTube comment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAgfiMCydpY&lc=UggQJlHpd1YFKXgCoAEC) mentioning that Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited should be called the Late Shore Limited.  When I Googled "Late Shore Limited", I came across a train blog with a picture of the Lake Shore Limited in North East, PA (https://akronrrclub.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/an-hour-late-that-is-actually-good-news/).  When I went to find the location of the picture in Street View, I came across a railroad crossing sign with a "1 TRACK" plaque (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.228835,-79.7874873,3a,26.1y,198.77h,91.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svDK1wHVIXtnTxJT8SCQpEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  I've never seen any plaques for a single track before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: billpa on March 09, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 08, 2019, 05:24:40 PM


Quote from: Brandon on March 06, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)

I rather like the signs.  The first two can replace the "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE" signage.  The latter then becomes a double symbol sign (the symbol inside, and the pennant itself being a giant arrow pointing you back to the right).

Fun fact: The "do not pass" signs depicted here were actually considered for inclusion in the 2009 MUTCD, but the FHWA ultimately didn't adopt it as there was concern that it wouldn't be intuitively understood.
Apparently we Americans are the only people only the planet who can't be counted on to understand non-wordy signs. That seems to be the view of the FHWA.

Pixel 2

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 09, 2019, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 09, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 08, 2019, 05:24:40 PM


Quote from: Brandon on March 06, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)

I rather like the signs.  The first two can replace the "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE" signage.  The latter then becomes a double symbol sign (the symbol inside, and the pennant itself being a giant arrow pointing you back to the right).

Fun fact: The "do not pass" signs depicted here were actually considered for inclusion in the 2009 MUTCD, but the FHWA ultimately didn't adopt it as there was concern that it wouldn't be intuitively understood.
Apparently we Americans are the only people only the planet who can't be counted on to understand non-wordy signs. That seems to be the view of the FHWA.

Pixel 2
I'm all for increased symbolization on our road signs. But even with an optional supplemental plaque, FHWA ended up thinking it wouldn't be intuitive. (FWIW, at first sighting, I also didn't immediately understand the meaning without the plaque.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 09, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
Found an interesting and old One Way sign on US-50 Business/Salisbury Parkway in Salisbury MD this morning:

(https://i.ibb.co/HX7RqgP/IMG-4684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCsrV8d)

Also, apparently Maryland will make a white background unisign from time to time:

(https://i.ibb.co/drR7p3y/Screenshot-at-2019-03-09-21-31-31.png) (https://ibb.co/zrzN2Lw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 01:19:27 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 09, 2019, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 09, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 08, 2019, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 06, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)

I rather like the signs.  The first two can replace the "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE" signage.  The latter then becomes a double symbol sign (the symbol inside, and the pennant itself being a giant arrow pointing you back to the right).

Fun fact: The "do not pass" signs depicted here were actually considered for inclusion in the 2009 MUTCD, but the FHWA ultimately didn't adopt it as there was concern that it wouldn't be intuitively understood.
Apparently we Americans are the only people only the planet who can't be counted on to understand non-wordy signs. That seems to be the view of the FHWA.
I'm all for increased symbolization on our road signs. But even with an optional supplemental plaque, FHWA ended up thinking it wouldn't be intuitive. (FWIW, at first sighting, I also didn't immediately understand the meaning without the plaque.)

Realistically, we're going to have to create some version of the sign that has a symbol. We can't rely on English text forever.

The FHWA does have to lighten up a bit and allow things that take a hair longer to read, if it means allowing those who aren't fully proficient in English some chance of understanding the message.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on March 10, 2019, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: Michael on March 09, 2019, 04:42:06 PM
I just saw a YouTube comment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAgfiMCydpY&lc=UggQJlHpd1YFKXgCoAEC) mentioning that Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited should be called the Late Shore Limited.  When I Googled "Late Shore Limited", I came across a train blog with a picture of the Lake Shore Limited in North East, PA (https://akronrrclub.wordpress.com/2015/09/19/an-hour-late-that-is-actually-good-news/).  When I went to find the location of the picture in Street View, I came across a railroad crossing sign with a "1 TRACK" plaque (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.228835,-79.7874873,3a,26.1y,198.77h,91.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svDK1wHVIXtnTxJT8SCQpEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  I've never seen any plaques for a single track before.
Neat! Those are pretty unique, not rare. In fact, I saw one at a NEW crossing I'll send google maps view later but here is a photograph (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190310/a7b24db59f14fb553d1330d4feab6c2f.jpg) and here's a video link: https://youtu.be/gn6agC3sYZ0


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2019, 10:18:16 AM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on February 27, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
Crooked Creek Road? Or is it really Cameltoe Lane?
Naw, it's a chicken foot. One kid here knows.  :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA7RiwMevT8

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Zeffy on March 10, 2019, 07:12:18 PM
Apologies for the absolute dogshit quality, but apparently there was more salt on the windshield than I originally thought. I know construction signs aren't that great to begin with but... it looks like someone stuck a north plaque from another sign onto this sign and called it a day.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tg4YBRYY/IMG-0967.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 11, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on March 09, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
Found an interesting and old One Way sign on US-50 Business/Salisbury Parkway in Salisbury MD this morning:

(https://i.ibb.co/HX7RqgP/IMG-4684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCsrV8d)

What's do you find interesting?  All I see is a normal-looking ONE WAY sign with some fading.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on March 11, 2019, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 11, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on March 09, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
Found an interesting and old One Way sign on US-50 Business/Salisbury Parkway in Salisbury MD this morning:

(https://i.ibb.co/HX7RqgP/IMG-4684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCsrV8d)

What's do you find interesting?  All I see is a normal-looking ONE WAY sign with some fading.

It also looks like it's using an older font. Probably the same one I've seen elsewhere in Maryland:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2F2011%2Fsigns%2Fmd355_old2_small.jpg&hash=31440fb8ee423731084bbede642d5d58e1df1af3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 11, 2019, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Eth on March 11, 2019, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 11, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on March 09, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
Found an interesting and old One Way sign on US-50 Business/Salisbury Parkway in Salisbury MD this morning:

(https://i.ibb.co/HX7RqgP/IMG-4684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCsrV8d)

What's do you find interesting?  All I see is a normal-looking ONE WAY sign with some fading.

It also looks like it's using an older font. Probably the same one I've seen elsewhere in Maryland:

(MD-355 shields)
Yes, it was the font that got me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 12, 2019, 12:11:57 AM
Another old One-Way sign, under the Alaska Way Viaduct, Seattle, WA.  I had to take this the week they closed it, because previously this had been a dangerous off-ramp crosswalk that nobody stopped for peds at.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7925/33479723018_f38918aba3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/T1ukeL)Old One-Way sign under the Alaksa Way Viaduct (https://flic.kr/p/T1ukeL) by Arthur Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/116988743@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on March 13, 2019, 06:02:47 AM
East Columbus Avenue in Springfield, MA, heading north by the new MGM Casino. The wind looks like it's trying to rip off the down arrows on the left sign! The faded I-91 shield doesn't help either!
(https://i.imgur.com/DNDw8wG.jpg)

Meanwhile, back home in central Connecticut:
(https://i.imgur.com/ijgHHdd.jpg)

Southbound Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) in Newington, across from Walmart. This "JCT 173" sign was literally being held up by one bolt instead of two (a couple of inches above the grass). High winds back on February 25th said "Well enough of that s---!" The sign more or less flapped back and forth on other days. There even a distinct gouge in the dirt below where it stood! The sign had been covered with snow for a week or so, if you couldn't tell.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on March 13, 2019, 07:16:43 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 01:19:27 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 09, 2019, 06:15:36 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 09, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 08, 2019, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on March 06, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
Quote from: riiga on March 03, 2019, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 02, 2019, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: billpa on March 02, 2019, 04:11:59 AM
I'm not sure why we don't use those permanently. They couldn't be any clearer or simple.

I'm about 90% in agreement. I would prefer a blue outline versus green, because green and red look the same to colorblind individuals. Having more than just a slash being different between the two would be better. There's no blue/red colorblindness that I know of, so people could tell those colors apart.
Indeed. As show by this comparison, blue stands out much more than green:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Amerikanska/Fargblindhet.png)

I rather like the signs.  The first two can replace the "DO NOT PASS" and "PASS WITH CARE" signage.  The latter then becomes a double symbol sign (the symbol inside, and the pennant itself being a giant arrow pointing you back to the right).

Fun fact: The "do not pass" signs depicted here were actually considered for inclusion in the 2009 MUTCD, but the FHWA ultimately didn't adopt it as there was concern that it wouldn't be intuitively understood.
Apparently we Americans are the only people only the planet who can't be counted on to understand non-wordy signs. That seems to be the view of the FHWA.
I'm all for increased symbolization on our road signs. But even with an optional supplemental plaque, FHWA ended up thinking it wouldn't be intuitive. (FWIW, at first sighting, I also didn't immediately understand the meaning without the plaque.)

Realistically, we're going to have to create some version of the sign that has a symbol. We can't rely on English text forever.

The FHWA does have to lighten up a bit and allow things that take a hair longer to read, if it means allowing those who aren't fully proficient in English some chance of understanding the message.
Let's use railroad abbreviations instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 13, 2019, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on March 11, 2019, 03:34:38 PM
Quote from: Eth on March 11, 2019, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 11, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on March 09, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
Found an interesting and old One Way sign on US-50 Business/Salisbury Parkway in Salisbury MD this morning:

(https://i.ibb.co/HX7RqgP/IMG-4684.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hCsrV8d)

What's do you find interesting?  All I see is a normal-looking ONE WAY sign with some fading.

It also looks like it's using an older font. Probably the same one I've seen elsewhere in Maryland:

(MD-355 shields)
Yes, it was the font that got me.

I was enjoying the old car in the pic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ben114 on March 13, 2019, 05:14:59 PM
Just found this sign about ten minutes ago at Wachusett Regional High School, in Holden, MA.
(https://i.imgur.com/7b3Ahqwh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 13, 2019, 08:19:36 PM
If it weren't for the text, I'd think that sign referred to some giant caterpillar thing attacking the schoolchildren.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 13, 2019, 10:08:56 PM
Wouldn't it be simpler to just advise the children not to breathe?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 13, 2019, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 10, 2019, 07:12:18 PM
Apologies for the absolute dogshit quality, but apparently there was more salt on the windshield than I originally thought. I know construction signs aren't that great to begin with but... it looks like someone stuck a north plaque from another sign onto this sign and called it a day.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tg4YBRYY/IMG-0967.jpg)

Is that a unisign behind that? If it is something looks seriously off with it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 14, 2019, 08:41:00 AM
Quote from: plain on March 13, 2019, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 10, 2019, 07:12:18 PM
Apologies for the absolute dogshit quality, but apparently there was more salt on the windshield than I originally thought. I know construction signs aren't that great to begin with but... it looks like someone stuck a north plaque from another sign onto this sign and called it a day.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tg4YBRYY/IMG-0967.jpg)

Is that a unisign behind that? If it is something looks seriously off with it.
It's not a unisign.  Such looks to be a black tarp to cover the signs when the ramp is temporarily closed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 14, 2019, 08:43:48 AM
Quote from: vdeane on March 13, 2019, 08:19:36 PM
If it weren't for the text, I'd think that sign referred to some giant caterpillar thing attacking the schoolchildren.

It's a very hungry caterpillar. Apparently, that one green leaf just wasn't enough after that Saturday binge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 14, 2019, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 14, 2019, 08:43:48 AM
It's a very hungry caterpillar. Apparently, that one green leaf just wasn't enough after that Saturday binge.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on March 15, 2019, 10:56:45 PM
I swear RI is a treasure trove of bad and obscure signs.  Here's some I passed on Wednesday.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3290242,-71.8318636,3a,25.4y,41.56h,89.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw-gH5W1nLURmupNDEPvMrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3290242,-71.8318636,3a,25.4y,41.56h,89.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw-gH5W1nLURmupNDEPvMrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

https://goo.gl/maps/FY72pF4qBi52 (https://goo.gl/maps/FY72pF4qBi52)

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3549779,-71.7126705,3a,15y,103.87h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbt5zgnUGFYaDudPg4uKiKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3549779,-71.7126705,3a,15y,103.87h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbt5zgnUGFYaDudPg4uKiKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on March 15, 2019, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 15, 2019, 10:56:45 PM
I swear RI is a treasure trove of bad and obscure signs.  Here's some I passed on Wednesday.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3290242,-71.8318636,3a,25.4y,41.56h,89.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw-gH5W1nLURmupNDEPvMrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3290242,-71.8318636,3a,25.4y,41.56h,89.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw-gH5W1nLURmupNDEPvMrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

https://goo.gl/maps/FY72pF4qBi52 (https://goo.gl/maps/FY72pF4qBi52)

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3549779,-71.7126705,3a,15y,103.87h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbt5zgnUGFYaDudPg4uKiKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3549779,-71.7126705,3a,15y,103.87h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbt5zgnUGFYaDudPg4uKiKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I'd have to say that the last sign is actually normal. I've seen that type of signage (next left, turn left, etc.) in lots of places.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 16, 2019, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on March 15, 2019, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 15, 2019, 10:56:45 PM
I swear RI is a treasure trove of bad and obscure signs.  Here's some I passed on Wednesday.

...

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3549779,-71.7126705,3a,15y,103.87h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbt5zgnUGFYaDudPg4uKiKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3549779,-71.7126705,3a,15y,103.87h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbt5zgnUGFYaDudPg4uKiKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I'd have to say that the last sign is actually normal. I've seen that type of signage (next left, turn left, etc.) in lots of places.
Yeah, that's fairly standard by RIDOT standards.

They use a lot of "[Destination] - Stay on [road]" signs on Delmarva:

US-113 in Georgetown DE: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7093471,-75.4045797,3a,15.9y,185.9h,87.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq_iCbkweVaSecT9cdIBwiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US-50/301 approaching Bay Bridge from the east: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9661426,-76.2266957,3a,16.5y,300.96h,87.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHZc3LPQsZ80iL1uye5xxNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And then there's the jog left sign used when you should turn off US-113 (at DE-20 in Dagsboro): https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5704156,-75.2821134,3a,15.6y,111.43h,90.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxIvONNhpbC92qFTXwUaEwg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 17, 2019, 01:33:42 AM
Ran into several "Historic" Lincoln Highway shields between French Camp and Altamont Pass today.  I'm not sure who put these up but it appears to likely have been a single individual given that they don't really follow expected signage guides to direct traffic in any way.  Nonetheless I found the LH shields to be a welcome addition, too bad the same corridor doesn't have any Historic US 48 or US 50 signage:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7909/47399740501_c9fa0ed908_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fdy4tc)IMG_0339 (https://flic.kr/p/2fdy4tc) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: djlynch on March 17, 2019, 05:19:43 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 04, 2019, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 04, 2019, 08:03:54 PM
I thought a blue circle meant "required".

I think it's an equivalent to our regulatory signage. Which has variable uses, from what's OK, to what's absolutely required.

Blue circles are regulatory signs but they have a specific meaning. The closest American equivalent would be putting the word "only" under the same legend in a black-on-white sign, whether it's an arrow or a type of vehicle. In other words, a truck pictogram on a blue circle would mean that cars, buses, motorcycles, etc. aren't allowed, and not that trucks must be in that lane or follow that route.

European signage doesn't seem to have a standard way to say "this is not prohibited," which is what a green circle seems to mean on the proposed passing zone signage and the handful of American signs where it's in use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on March 18, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 17, 2019, 01:33:42 AM
Ran into several "Historic" Lincoln Highway shields between French Camp and Altamont Pass today.  I'm not sure who put these up but it appears to likely have been a single individual given that they don't really follow expected signage guides to direct traffic in any way.  Nonetheless I found the LH shields to be a welcome addition, too bad the same corridor doesn't have any Historic US 48 or US 50 signage:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7909/47399740501_c9fa0ed908_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fdy4tc)IMG_0339 (https://flic.kr/p/2fdy4tc) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Here's one on old US-30 near Beaverdam, OH.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8333918,-83.9508068,3a,90y,58.44h,97.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc_t1gqOwFQtzihYKMGFo1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 18, 2019, 05:24:19 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on March 18, 2019, 05:00:40 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 17, 2019, 01:33:42 AM
Ran into several "Historic" Lincoln Highway shields between French Camp and Altamont Pass today.  I'm not sure who put these up but it appears to likely have been a single individual given that they don't really follow expected signage guides to direct traffic in any way.  Nonetheless I found the LH shields to be a welcome addition, too bad the same corridor doesn't have any Historic US 48 or US 50 signage:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7909/47399740501_c9fa0ed908_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fdy4tc)IMG_0339 (https://flic.kr/p/2fdy4tc) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Here's one on old US-30 near Beaverdam, OH.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8333918,-83.9508068,3a,90y,58.44h,97.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc_t1gqOwFQtzihYKMGFo1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Found one on the Old Dutch Flat and Donner Lake Road at Central Pacific rail tunnels.  I'm to understand there are other shields up on the old alignments elsewhere on Donner Pass:

https://flic.kr/p/PHt3qd

For what it's worth the Lincoln Highway seems to be the US 66 of Auto Trails.  The Dixie Highway gets some historic attention but the Lincoln Highway appears to have the largest nostalgic Auto Trail following. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 19, 2019, 08:30:18 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 14, 2019, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 14, 2019, 08:43:48 AM
It's a very hungry caterpillar. Apparently, that one green leaf just wasn't enough after that Saturday binge.

I see what you did there.

Cool. I wish my kids were still young enough to enjoy that story.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 19, 2019, 01:46:53 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 19, 2019, 08:30:18 AM

Quote from: kphoger on March 14, 2019, 01:46:47 PM

Quote from: formulanone on March 14, 2019, 08:43:48 AM
It's a very hungry caterpillar. Apparently, that one green leaf just wasn't enough after that Saturday binge.

I see what you did there.

Cool. I wish my kids were still young enough to enjoy that story.

There's an animated video of the story with dramatic reading that's pretty cool.  Netflix or Amazon, I think, but I can't remember.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 23, 2019, 12:46:22 PM
Not a unique sign, but a unique perspective.  This is on northbound M-10 approaching US-24 and I-696 in Southfield MI.  The road curves slightly to the right just before the gantry, so from a distance the left Exit Only sign for I-696 appears to indicate the SECOND left lane.  This sign replaced a larger diagrammatic last year (another of which appears in the background).

(https://i.imgur.com/V6Vo7YB.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on March 24, 2019, 02:04:43 AM
^ OMG! Not in Clearview?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 24, 2019, 03:24:39 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on March 24, 2019, 02:04:43 AM
^ OMG! Not in Clearview?  :thumbsup:

^  These are among a couple dozen FHWA-font BGSs that have gone up in spot locations over the past couple years around metro Detroit.  There are plans for replacement signage this year on M-5 in Farmington and Farmington Hills, and the entire length of M-6 in the Grand Rapids area, and those sign plans indicate use of Clearview.  I suspect Michigan very briefly switched back to FHWA and then switched back again to Clearview, but of course I don't know that for a fact.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on March 24, 2019, 08:01:33 PM
A similar situation happens on I-690 westbound before the NY 695 exit.  This (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0703111,-76.2027198,3a,15y,306.91h,89.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI_Vy8pQgaU1wEtqUbuPyFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is the best angle I can get, but especially from the second lane, it looks like you need to move to the far right to exit to NY 695, but that's actually the exit lane for NY 297.  Also, the second lane is actually an option lane, but you don't know until you're at the exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0727004,-76.2081622,3a,20.4y,300.72h,94.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siIejkzKW2NbINmeaxr6Ayw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (note the double arrows on the exit sign in the background).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 26, 2019, 10:19:10 PM
Quote from: Michael on March 24, 2019, 08:01:33 PM
A similar situation happens on I-690 westbound before the NY 695 exit.  This (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0703111,-76.2027198,3a,15y,306.91h,89.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI_Vy8pQgaU1wEtqUbuPyFg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is the best angle I can get, but especially from the second lane, it looks like you need to move to the far right to exit to NY 695, but that's actually the exit lane for NY 297.  Also, the second lane is actually an option lane, but you don't know until you're at the exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0727004,-76.2081622,3a,20.4y,300.72h,94.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siIejkzKW2NbINmeaxr6Ayw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (note the double arrows on the exit sign in the background).
Your situation with the option lane hidden till the exit is an unfortunate result of the 2009 MUTCD not allowing down arrows over an option lane, something I'm still not totally on board with...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Sam on March 27, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
I-90/I-290 In Buffalo - 4 arrows over 3 lanes. The center lane is actually an option lane. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190327/4ba46c474a8b169d676c0b1c361562f0.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 27, 2019, 06:13:49 AM
Quote from: Sam on March 27, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
I-90/I-290 In Buffalo - 4 arrows over 3 lanes. The center lane is actually an option lane.

That was the normal way of signing such option lanes until the APL came along.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 27, 2019, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 27, 2019, 06:13:49 AM
Quote from: Sam on March 27, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
I-90/I-290 In Buffalo - 4 arrows over 3 lanes. The center lane is actually an option lane.

That was the normal way of signing such option lanes until the APL came along.

Except the second arrow from the right would have been a white arrow against a green background since it was an option lane, which means this is a post-2009 sign. Unless the 2009 MUTCD predated APLs...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 27, 2019, 07:59:37 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 27, 2019, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 27, 2019, 06:13:49 AM
Quote from: Sam on March 27, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
I-90/I-290 In Buffalo - 4 arrows over 3 lanes. The center lane is actually an option lane.

That was the normal way of signing such option lanes until the APL came along.

Except the second arrow from the right would have been a white arrow against a green background since it was an option lane, which means this is a post-2009 sign. Unless the 2009 MUTCD predated APLs...?
Have you ever heard of "replace in kind"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on March 28, 2019, 06:47:58 PM
On my way back from South Bend a few weeks ago I decided to hop on Old US 31 and look for some old signs. And I got pretty lucky.

This sign looks pretty standard...
(https://i.imgur.com/El4ksvF.jpg)

...but upon looking back it's clear that it has been repurposed.
(https://i.imgur.com/2zplgoa.jpg)

I also found a pair of old black on white directional signs. Here's one of them.
(https://i.imgur.com/d7NweLe.jpg)

Nothing terribly spectacular, but it definitely reinforces the fact that it's not too hard to find old signs in Indiana.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on March 30, 2019, 12:40:42 AM
I traveled down to Mt. Vernon from Alexandria on the George Washington Parkway recently, and found a few unique signs.

The first two are warning signs for an upcoming bridge.  I'd never seen the right lane called "Curb Lane" before.  This is a GSV image as my wife was tired of me stopping for pics (I'm not much of a picture taker when driving as you can probably deduce from my lack of content here).
(https://i.imgur.com/IpsQDND.png)
Later, for the same bridge, we have a diagram that is one I've never seen before.  Someone really thought it necessary to depict the stonework on the bridge!
(https://i.imgur.com/Bbdjyd8.jpg)
Finally, I spotted this on the bike path that parallels the road.  I had never seen this before either.
(https://i.imgur.com/JovsrOv.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ThatTenneseeRoadgeek on March 30, 2019, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: Sam on March 27, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
I-90/I-290 In Buffalo - 4 arrows over 3 lanes. The center lane is actually an option lane. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190327/4ba46c474a8b169d676c0b1c361562f0.jpg)
I've seen the exact same thing here in Florida... https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5169442,-80.4482853,3a,70.5y,355.9h,107.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGR7qCAI_RZ7j5JZ6qi9Nbg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@27.6344181,-80.5159862,3a,45.3y,14.07h,103.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syRLauS4BUv45X_4OyiL1rQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ThatTenneseeRoadgeek on March 30, 2019, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on March 10, 2019, 07:12:18 PM
Apologies for the absolute dogshit quality, but apparently there was more salt on the windshield than I originally thought. I know construction signs aren't that great to begin with but... it looks like someone stuck a north plaque from another sign onto this sign and called it a day.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tg4YBRYY/IMG-0967.jpg)
Yeesh...That is ugly..
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 30, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
Quote from: chays on March 30, 2019, 12:40:42 AM
Finally, I spotted this on the bike path that parallels the road.  I had never seen this before either.
(https://i.imgur.com/JovsrOv.jpg)

The "slippery when wet" with bike symbol is actually an MUTCD standard sign (W8-10). The other sign is not in the MUTCD, but is a logical extension of the "Bridge Freezes Before Road" warning used in some states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 30, 2019, 08:51:29 PM
Saw a fairly interesting/older sign on MD-213 approaching the Chesapeake City Bridge today.  Screenshot is from northbound, there's the same thing southbound.

(https://i.ibb.co/tYjyBmv/Screenshot-at-2019-03-30-20-50-31.png) (https://ibb.co/3S6t1rj)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 31, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 30, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
The other sign is not in the MUTCD, but is a logical extension of the "Bridge Freezes Before Road" warning used in some states.

Aren't all text-only signs technically in the MUTCD?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 31, 2019, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 31, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 30, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
The other sign is not in the MUTCD, but is a logical extension of the "Bridge Freezes Before Road" warning used in some states.

Aren't all text-only signs technically in the MUTCD?
Not technically, but the MUTCD includes a provision that allows agencies to develop text-only messages, without needing to request official experimentation, when there is not a preexisting standard sign that addresses the issue (see 2A.06, ¶11-13).

What I meant by this was that the message is not a standard sign message already found in the MUTCD. By contrast, something like "New Traffic Pattern Ahead" is a text-only sign, but it's also already a standard sign (W23-2).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 31, 2019, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 31, 2019, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 31, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 30, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
The other sign is not in the MUTCD, but is a logical extension of the "Bridge Freezes Before Road" warning used in some states.

Aren't all text-only signs technically in the MUTCD?
Not technically, but the MUTCD includes a provision that allows agencies to develop text-only messages, without needing to request official experimentation, when there is not a preexisting standard sign that addresses the issue (see 2A.06, ¶11-13).

What I meant by this was that the message is not a standard sign message already found in the MUTCD. By contrast, something like "New Traffic Pattern Ahead" is a text-only sign, but it's also already a standard sign (W23-2).

Gotcha. I should have said "technically *permitted* by...", since all those custom signs obviously couldn't be in the MUTCD.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 31, 2019, 12:33:35 PM
In the case of warning, regulatory, and construction signs with custom text messages that are erected under the provision Roadfro quotes (there are similar provisions in Chapters 2B and 2C), I generally say that they are "not diagrammed in the MUTCD."

The real no-no, which many agencies violate nevertheless, is to use a custom symbol that is not approved by FHWA.  Many states, for example, had symbolic crossing signs for horsedrawn carriages and the symbol design varied from state to state, with none being shown in the MUTCD.  A symbolic sign is now in the MUTCD (as of the 2009 edition for sure--maybe 2003?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on March 31, 2019, 12:56:02 PM
Not sure if this Yield to Peds/Pedestrians have the right of way sign in New York City (https://goo.gl/maps/eoY7pwsV5Hw) has been mentioned before.  So the City is officially allowing pedestrians to cross against the traffic light?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 31, 2019, 12:56:02 PM
Not sure if this Yield to Peds/Pedestrians have the right of way sign in New York City (https://goo.gl/maps/eoY7pwsV5Hw) has been mentioned before.  So the City is officially allowing pedestrians to cross against the traffic light?

Signs like these show up randomly from time to time. It in no way gives peds the right to walk against the light.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on March 31, 2019, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 31, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on March 31, 2019, 12:56:02 PM
Not sure if this Yield to Peds/Pedestrians have the right of way sign in New York City (https://goo.gl/maps/eoY7pwsV5Hw) has been mentioned before.  So the City is officially allowing pedestrians to cross against the traffic light?

Signs like these show up randomly from time to time. It in no way gives peds the right to walk against the light.
Is it always in front of a midblock or stoplight crossing though?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 01, 2019, 09:47:10 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/33642153378/in/dateposted-public/
North end of US 69 ALT in Cherokee County, KS has the arrow for US 69 & 160 all wrong!  It goes not only left but straight ahead as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 02, 2019, 02:05:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2019, 09:47:10 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/33642153378/in/dateposted-public/
North end of US 69 ALT in Cherokee County, KS has the arrow for US 69 & 160 all wrong!  It goes not only left but straight ahead as well.

Arrows were correct back in 2014 (https://goo.gl/maps/1b4s1JKgW4t).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 02, 2019, 07:43:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 02, 2019, 02:05:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2019, 09:47:10 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/33642153378/in/dateposted-public/
North end of US 69 ALT in Cherokee County, KS has the arrow for US 69 & 160 all wrong!  It goes not only left but straight ahead as well.

Arrows were correct back in 2014 (https://goo.gl/maps/1b4s1JKgW4t).
More interesting as well as even badder that it used to be correct and the wrong arrow was made to replace it.

Furthermore we have this one up further.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47472796512/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 02, 2019, 09:24:04 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47511498641/in/dateposted-public/ Here is one that KDOT usually uses this format with City or Unincorporated Limits is the area's speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 03, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 02, 2019, 09:24:04 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47511498641/in/dateposted-public/

Here is one that KDOT usually uses this format with City or Unincorporated Limits is the area's speed limit.

What's unique or interesting with this one?  Looks completely normal to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 05, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
Old road signs, including one really weird old Stop sign at the R.E. Olds Transportation Museum:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:R._E._Olds_Transportation_Museum_July_2018_65_(1974_Diamond_REO_C119_Raider).jpg




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on April 08, 2019, 10:06:41 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 05, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
Old road signs, including one really weird old Stop sign at the R.E. Olds Transportation Museum:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:R._E._Olds_Transportation_Museum_July_2018_65_(1974_Diamond_REO_C119_Raider).jpg

I am assuming that you are referring to the "ordinance corner" stop sign? Since it is from Michigan, maybe it has to do with the Northwest Ordinance of 1787?





Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 13, 2019, 12:39:48 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47574616531/in/dateposted-public/
I find this sign assembly at the first ever SPUI in Clearwater, FL to be odd but tells the truth though. Since US 19 was upgraded to full freeway through Clearwater, now there are no direct ramps to it from Highway 60. So the "TO" banners are correct, but the N and S for Frontage Road (and the all upper case too) is very unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 13, 2019, 01:57:04 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2019, 12:39:48 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47574616531/in/dateposted-public/
I find this sign assembly at the first ever SPUI in Clearwater, FL to be odd but tells the truth though. Since US 19 was upgraded to full freeway through Clearwater, now there are no direct ramps to it from Highway 60. So the "TO" banners are correct, but the N and S for Frontage Road (and the all upper case too) is very unusual.

Are the roads not called "Frontage Road S" and "Frontage Road N"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on April 13, 2019, 08:21:49 PM
I remember seeing on Alps Roads many years ago the ET(?) "Buckle Up" sign: https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ct/us_44/

Well, I found another one today out of the corner of my eye on Upper King Road near Camden DE today (unfortunately blurry on Google Maps): https://goo.gl/maps/ptxA3XkUZZs.  It's at the entrance to the Delaware Division of Communications, I believe.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on April 14, 2019, 01:45:33 PM
I don't like to post immediately after myself, but I was biking around Dover just now and noticed this older pedestrian sign on Walker Road (at Pear Street, I have no idea what Justis Street is in reference to).

(https://i.ibb.co/Cs5xs1p/IMG-20190414-130147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yBnLBfm)

I also saw this older looking "Load Limit" sign on a residential street.

(https://i.ibb.co/zQCHz9q/IMG-20190414-130515.jpg) (https://ibb.co/34VYn6g)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 14, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
^^ and the informal spelling of "midnight".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on April 14, 2019, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on April 14, 2019, 01:45:33 PM
I don't like to post immediately after myself, but I was biking around Dover just now and noticed this older pedestrian sign on Walker Road (at Pear Street, I have no idea what Justis Street is in reference to).

(snip)
Looks like someone pasted it onto the sign. Font looks off, and some of the letters look crooked.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on April 14, 2019, 07:48:00 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on April 14, 2019, 01:45:33 PM
I don't like to post immediately after myself, but I was biking around Dover just now and noticed this older pedestrian sign on Walker Road (at Pear Street, I have no idea what Justis Street is in reference to).

(https://i.ibb.co/Cs5xs1p/IMG-20190414-130147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yBnLBfm)


Came from Wilmington DE.  They rehabbed one side of Justis St and repurposed those signs.  This one looks the most like the one now in Dover in terms of dirt pattern...

https://goo.gl/maps/j6PoVcvt2Xs


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: billpa on April 15, 2019, 09:58:47 AM


Quote from: Mapmikey on April 14, 2019, 07:48:00 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on April 14, 2019, 01:45:33 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/Cs5xs1p/IMG-20190414-130147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yBnLBfm)


I know we're the land of the wordy signs but holy hell.

Pixel 2

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on April 16, 2019, 05:48:23 AM
GDOT's latest major signage screwup, on I-20 eastbound approaching downtown Atlanta. After seeing a friend's photo of this yesterday, I thought that perhaps the erroneous sign had been designed and fabricated correctly, but installed in the wrong place. Now, though, it's obvious to me that someone thought that what you see here is correct. Wow.

As you can see, the Windsor Street sign has arrows pointing up and to the right, directing traffic across the path of vehicles following the down arrow to the McDaniel Street exit. That's why I thought that this sign had been intended for the point of divergence of the Windsor Street offramp, not half a mile upstream as we're seeing here.

Beyond that, even if the arrows on the Windsor Street sign were pointing down, it's against the 2009 MUTCD to sign an option lane in that manner. Moreover, while  has recently deviated from that part of the MUTCD (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21196.msg2262230#msg2262230) by using both white-on-green and black-on-yellow arrows at the point of divergence instead of two black-on-yellows, GDOT has stuck to the MUTCD scheme of using only one black-on-yellow arrow in advance of the exit, with the option lane being hidden. I'm explaining this not just as a matter of consistency: the reason that the current MUTCD scheme of hiding the option lane instead of denoting it with a white-on-green arrow is that a significant proportion of drivers misinterpret the white-on-green arrow as denoting a lane drop, and thus make unnecessary lane changes, sometimes in a panic. At this location, there are six eastbound lanes, of which four can or must use three exits over the next three quarters of a mile, and message overload precludes signing the lane assignments in detail. This is a place to *avoid* prompting dubious lane changes.

On a more trivial note, the Windsor Street sign also has a full-width exit number tab. Some find it aesthetically appealing, but it's inconsistent with current GDOT practice. Myself, I'd probably consider it an endearing little quirk if the rest of the sign wasn't so badly designed, but I've developed an attitude about it now.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q9AaLQ1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on April 16, 2019, 06:52:01 AM
I've got a sign: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/600cea835f3383c564caccaed1b98c96.jpg)
This sign ALWAYS bothered me because the yellow paint doesn't go up to the black line!


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 16, 2019, 08:59:10 AM
The custom diagram here for "do not drive onto tracks"
Washington Ave, Minneapolis

(https://i.imgur.com/onrpojL.png)

https://goo.gl/maps/zMsRZqGQWAo
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 16, 2019, 09:34:55 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 16, 2019, 05:48:23 AM
GDOT's latest major signage screwup, on I-20 eastbound approaching downtown Atlanta. After seeing a friend's photo of this yesterday, I thought that perhaps the erroneous sign had been designed and fabricated correctly, but installed in the wrong place. Now, though, it's obvious to me that someone thought that what you see here is correct. Wow.

I was going to say that none of the rest of that actually precluded the explanation of "right sign, wrong location", but then there is the simple fact that there just wouldn't be enough space for it there (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7422802,-84.4040372,3a,75y,69.67h,108.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS7NHGkx7cmETMDAUl1jBaQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

Also, I'll again continue to espouse the opinion that the 2009 MUTCD practice actively prompts such unnecessary lane changes for exiting traffic by hiding the option lane, so I'll keep giving GDOT a pass for thumbing their nose at that particular provision.

So the only thing actually wrong with it is the angled up arrows instead of straight down arrows. (I mildly prefer the current-standard separate exit tabs, but it's not a big deal. This would look pretty much normal in, say, Washington.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 16, 2019, 02:33:20 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 16, 2019, 08:59:10 AM
The custom diagram here for "do not drive onto tracks"
Washington Ave, Minneapolis

(https://i.imgur.com/onrpojL.png)

https://goo.gl/maps/zMsRZqGQWAo

ON  TO
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on April 16, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 16, 2019, 09:34:55 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on April 16, 2019, 05:48:23 AM
GDOT's latest major signage screwup, on I-20 eastbound approaching downtown Atlanta. After seeing a friend's photo of this yesterday, I thought that perhaps the erroneous sign had been designed and fabricated correctly, but installed in the wrong place. Now, though, it's obvious to me that someone thought that what you see here is correct. Wow.

I was going to say that none of the rest of that actually precluded the explanation of "right sign, wrong location", but then there is the simple fact that there just wouldn't be enough space for it there (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7422802,-84.4040372,3a,75y,69.67h,108.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS7NHGkx7cmETMDAUl1jBaQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

Actually, there is a new sign there already: same format as the one in my photo, but rearranged so that the white arrow is directly under the S in State Farm. It fits, and I see nothing wrong with it. Oh: it has a right-indexed exit number tab, too.

Quote from: EthAlso, I'll again continue to espouse the opinion that the 2009 MUTCD practice actively prompts such unnecessary lane changes for exiting traffic by hiding the option lane, so I'll keep giving GDOT a pass for thumbing their nose at that particular provision.

I agree with you on that to a degree, but having heard about why that particular feature suddenly made in into the MUTCD only ten years ago after decades of real-world experience, I tend to ascribe at least some weight to the decision-making process. Besides that and perhaps more to the point: Georgia still doesn't have a consistent policy on this issue, with full-monte MUTCD-compliant installations being made along with deviations such as this. Among them, as I noted in that other thread:

Recently, the name of Freedom Parkway was changed to John Lewis Freedom Parkway, and the BGS's were replaced rather than greened over to accommodate the change. The exit only panels on the new signs are 2009 MUTCD compliant, with two black-on-yellow arrows instead on one white, one black. This could mean that the revolt on this is over, but I suspect and hope that it's a matter of whoever designed the signs not knowing that that aspect of the MUTCD was considered inoperative on the Downtown Connector  and on 85 in Gwinnett.

It's not policy. It's Calvinball, by an agency that doesn't even understand why arrows are supposed to point in certain directions under certain conditions.  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 16, 2019, 10:38:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EKxk7YiUeWGQwHSK8
Like the way the pull through on I-440 is hanging beneath the gantry to keep the panels all aligned evenly at the bottom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 17, 2019, 12:38:41 AM
Seems to be more oddball IN 49 shields than I recall from two years ago:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40652565883_45ac0aef0b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24Wk2wk)49INc (https://flic.kr/p/24Wk2wk) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 17, 2019, 09:57:43 AM
I also have to question the utility of both "end" and "ends ahead." Thanks for the warning?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 17, 2019, 10:54:29 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 17, 2019, 09:57:43 AM
I also have to question the utility of both "end" and "ends ahead." Thanks for the warning?

Seemed to be pretty common on this last trip.  I saw "Ends"  placards in Illinois, Indiana and Ontario on this past trip. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on April 17, 2019, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 17, 2019, 09:57:43 AM
I also have to question the utility of both "end" and "ends ahead." Thanks for the warning?
Maryland likes to do "(ROAD A) ENDS AT (ROAD B)" (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.712248,-78.2245919,3a,25.1y,116.34h,85.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smAxjFtDdtVO_I-cuRU8A7A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 18, 2019, 12:57:09 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2019, 10:38:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EKxk7YiUeWGQwHSK8
Like the way the pull through on I-440 is hanging beneath the gantry to keep the panels all aligned evenly at the bottom.
Interesting that even the mounting of the biggest sign on that gantry is vertically aligned to the top of the sign instead of the center. Don't most agencies that use this style of sign bridge usually center align all the signs on a structure?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on April 18, 2019, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 18, 2019, 12:57:09 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2019, 10:38:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EKxk7YiUeWGQwHSK8
Like the way the pull through on I-440 is hanging beneath the gantry to keep the panels all aligned evenly at the bottom.
Interesting that even the mounting of the biggest sign on that gantry is vertically aligned to the top of the sign instead of the center. Don't most agencies that use this style of sign bridge usually center align all the signs on a structure?

Yes.  Generally accepted practice for overhead sign structures is to center all sign panels on the horizontal member of the structure.  Had that been done in this case, they could have likely used a trichord structure with single uprights instead of the four-chord structure, which would have been less expensive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 19, 2019, 09:21:17 PM
On Tuesday, I spotted these signs on a Des Moines city street that (used to?) suffer from a dumping problem.

(https://i.imgur.com/z7AkCdU.jpg)

The red flasher is a nice touch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 20, 2019, 12:26:24 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 19, 2019, 09:21:17 PM
On Tuesday, I spotted these signs on a Des Moines city street that (used to?) suffer from a dumping problem.



Similar sign near Seattle. (https://goo.gl/maps/3tm4U6jZxsDqPwVZA)  Not sure the pole the sign is attached to still holds a working camera.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 20, 2019, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 20, 2019, 12:26:24 AM
Similar sign near Seattle. (https://goo.gl/maps/3tm4U6jZxsDqPwVZA)  Not sure the pole the sign is attached to still holds a working camera.

Either the signs I saw (edit: the one in my picture) were bluffing, or the cameras were well hidden, as I didn't see any.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 20, 2019, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 20, 2019, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 20, 2019, 12:26:24 AM
Similar sign near Seattle. (https://goo.gl/maps/3tm4U6jZxsDqPwVZA)  Not sure the pole the sign is attached to still holds a working camera.

Either the signs I saw were bluffing, or the cameras were well hidden, as I didn't see any.

The sign didn't say camera.  It said monitored, which could mean a park forest ranger drives around, local police department is in the area, etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 20, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
I believe Quebec's very unique high wind warning sign (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Quebec_Wind_Sign.svg) has been brought up before. (Oddly didn't find much in a forum search.)

I only bring this up because a friend left this related video on my Facebook page:
https://youtu.be/MAyqJnHgQDI
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on April 20, 2019, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: roadfro on April 20, 2019, 09:58:41 AM
I believe Quebec's very unique high wind warning sign (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Quebec_Wind_Sign.svg) has been brought up before. (Oddly didn't find much in a forum search.)

I only bring this up because a friend left this related video on my Facebook page:
https://youtu.be/MAyqJnHgQDI

NBDOT also uses that symbol as well, here's a sign on EB TCH-2 in Sackville:

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.9063085,-64.3645659,3a,15y,161.47h,93.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbhLernyQ3ueNpF3oIaJhLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.9063085,-64.3645659,3a,15y,161.47h,93.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbhLernyQ3ueNpF3oIaJhLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

The Tantramar Marshes between Sackville and Amherst, NS are infamous for being quite windy, hence the sign...there's also some warning signs showing the truck tipping over between Exits 1 and 3 on the NS side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 20, 2019, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 20, 2019, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on April 20, 2019, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 20, 2019, 12:26:24 AM
Similar sign near Seattle. (https://goo.gl/maps/3tm4U6jZxsDqPwVZA)  Not sure the pole the sign is attached to still holds a working camera.
Either the signs I saw were bluffing, or the cameras were well hidden, as I didn't see any.
The sign didn't say camera.  It said monitored, which could mean a park forest ranger drives around, local police department is in the area, etc.

I'm talking about the Des Moines signs (the one in my picture), which does in fact say "camera surveillance."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on April 20, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Do NOT google "bearded man blowing road sign."  You will see things you cannot unsee.   :paranoid:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 20, 2019, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: rarnold on April 08, 2019, 10:06:41 PM
I am assuming that you are referring to the "ordinance corner" stop sign? Since it is from Michigan, maybe it has to do with the Northwest Ordinance of 1787?
The Detroit Automobile Club Thru Street one is an odd one too.


And this is my 2000th Post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on April 20, 2019, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: renegade on April 20, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Do NOT google "bearded man blowing road sign."  You will see things you cannot unsee.   :paranoid:
I googled it, nothing out of the ordinary. Sorry for ruining your joke.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on April 20, 2019, 07:22:58 PM
Quote from: csw on April 20, 2019, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: renegade on April 20, 2019, 02:52:17 PM
Do NOT google "bearded man blowing road sign."  You will see things you cannot unsee.   :paranoid:
I googled it, nothing out of the ordinary. Sorry for ruining your joke.
It wasn't my joke ... watch the video.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on April 21, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
Was visiting family today in New Jersey.  OH MY GOD THESE WERE SO BEAUTIFUL.

(https://i.ibb.co/WPTQhsG/IMG-5589.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GthX6Fn)

(https://i.ibb.co/XbrmTkV/IMG-5590.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bt58RKw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
I've seen this type of reflective border applied to signs in Vancouver, but never in the US:

51 Ave S @ S 163 Pl, Tukwila, WA (http://bit.ly/2DsQHDg) (two signs on either side of the street)

(https://i.imgur.com/GpZAyxI.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 23, 2019, 09:50:39 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/NnwZF5FJMDayp4Xh9
The arrow for US 169 Southbound is interesting.  Its because of a roundabout just ahead of the assembly and to get on US 169 SB requires a three quarter counter clockwise move around the circle.

Anyway the arrow is cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on April 23, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 23, 2019, 09:50:39 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/NnwZF5FJMDayp4Xh9
The arrow for US 169 Southbound is interesting.  Its because of a roundabout just ahead of the assembly and to get on US 169 SB requires a three quarter counter clockwise move around the circle.

Anyway the arrow is cool.

That's a standard arrow: M5-3 in the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 23, 2019, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 23, 2019, 09:50:39 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/NnwZF5FJMDayp4Xh9
The arrow for US 169 Southbound is interesting.  Its because of a roundabout just ahead of the assembly and to get on US 169 SB requires a three quarter counter clockwise move around the circle.

Anyway the arrow is cool.
Those "fishhook" arrows are actually a standard item introduced by the 2009 MUTCD specifically for use at roundabouts. Although agencies have the option of using standard or fishhook arrows, so they aren't yet prevalent everywhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 24, 2019, 12:03:47 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/KzzU4ELnQRYKdaQC6
A very long detour for I-85 as this takes the motorist many miles out of the way as this sign is in Rocky Mount along I-95 hundreds of miles past the exit for I-85 proper in VA and has to travel over 50 or more miles to get back to it at Durham.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on April 24, 2019, 06:53:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 24, 2019, 12:03:47 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/KzzU4ELnQRYKdaQC6
A very long detour for I-85 as this takes the motorist many miles out of the way as this sign is in Rocky Mount along I-95 hundreds of miles past the exit for I-85 proper in VA and has to travel over 50 or more miles to get back to it at Durham.

Overall it is is only about 45 miles longer to go via Rocky Mount on a journey from Petersburg VA to Durham NC.  During the worst parts of the I-85 rehab north of Henderson the time would be about a wash unless you were in Raleigh's rush hour.  However, using US 1 from Exit 233 to Henderson was quite workable to escape the construction traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 24, 2019, 10:08:12 AM
^^ The sign itself belongs there with a weird shaped blue portion of the shield with white around it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on April 24, 2019, 11:33:42 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2019, 10:38:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EKxk7YiUeWGQwHSK8
Like the way the pull through on I-440 is hanging beneath the gantry to keep the panels all aligned evenly at the bottom.
That set-up is totally bizarre.  At a glance, one has to assume that the gantry height is taller/higher than normal.  Even so, those BGS' (especially that pull-through) still look like candidates for overhead signs most likely to be struck by an overheight vehicle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on April 24, 2019, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 23, 2019, 09:57:55 PM
Those "fishhook" arrows are actually a standard item introduced by the 2009 MUTCD specifically for use at roundabouts. Although agencies have the option of using standard or fishhook arrows, so they aren't yet prevalent everywhere.

Might also have to do with the fact that not many state-maintained highways go through roundabouts anyway, at least in the west where they tend to be more of a local-level thing. In Utah where I'm most familiar with, out of maybe 200 or so roundabouts, less than 10 are on a numbered route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 24, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 24, 2019, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 23, 2019, 09:57:55 PM
Those "fishhook" arrows are actually a standard item introduced by the 2009 MUTCD specifically for use at roundabouts. Although agencies have the option of using standard or fishhook arrows, so they aren't yet prevalent everywhere.

Might also have to do with the fact that not many state-maintained highways go through roundabouts anyway, at least in the west where they tend to be more of a local-level thing. In Utah where I'm most familiar with, out of maybe 200 or so roundabouts, less than 10 are on a numbered route.

I have so far seen this arrow used in exactly one place in Georgia, at a very recently constructed roundabout (photo taken 2018-04-14):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2Fga53e_ga183.jpg&hash=0b3f4a9893d95a14ceca9b6dde1186cd2e30473b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 24, 2019, 10:39:57 PM
Quote from: US 89 on April 24, 2019, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 23, 2019, 09:57:55 PM
Those "fishhook" arrows are actually a standard item introduced by the 2009 MUTCD specifically for use at roundabouts. Although agencies have the option of using standard or fishhook arrows, so they aren't yet prevalent everywhere.

Might also have to do with the fact that not many state-maintained highways go through roundabouts anyway, at least in the west where they tend to be more of a local-level thing. In Utah where I'm most familiar with, out of maybe 200 or so roundabouts, less than 10 are on a numbered route.

Or, use a left arrow and a fishhook arrow to describe the same direction!!!  https://goo.gl/maps/TWnLS4NMWGtNs4sb8

(If you advance the GSV time to the present, you'll see they removed that sign and replaced it with something probably a slightly bit better.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 24, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: roadman on April 18, 2019, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 18, 2019, 12:57:09 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2019, 10:38:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EKxk7YiUeWGQwHSK8
Like the way the pull through on I-440 is hanging beneath the gantry to keep the panels all aligned evenly at the bottom.
Interesting that even the mounting of the biggest sign on that gantry is vertically aligned to the top of the sign instead of the center. Don't most agencies that use this style of sign bridge usually center align all the signs on a structure?

Yes.  Generally accepted practice for overhead sign structures is to center all sign panels on the horizontal member of the structure.  Had that been done in this case, they could have likely used a trichord structure with single uprights instead of the four-chord structure, which would have been less expensive.

Michigan used to be very big on aligning multiple BGSs on the bottom, and I think it's a very neat look.  As narrow triangular "trichord" gantries are becoming more standard in the state, signs mounted on them are often center-aligned and I think it looks sloppy.  I guess it's a matter of being used to what you grew up with.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 25, 2019, 12:09:44 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on April 21, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
Was visiting family today in New Jersey.  OH MY GOD THESE WERE SO BEAUTIFUL.

(https://i.ibb.co/WPTQhsG/IMG-5589.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GthX6Fn)

(https://i.ibb.co/XbrmTkV/IMG-5590.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bt58RKw)
Yes, those are really nice. New York still has a few of these leftover too. And guess who took a shot of one;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Fashioned_Directional_Sign_on_US_1_in_Rye.jpg

No, I'm not the only person to get a shot of one of these things, but you're welcome anyway.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on April 29, 2019, 07:11:32 PM
During the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival, there's dozens of posted signs along country roads to direct tourists to certain fields that are open to the public.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qkh8atu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nnbVbys.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 01, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
That lane control sign with the route marker in it is pretty neat too. Is that something Washington does regularly?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on May 01, 2019, 10:59:27 AM
I thought this BGS in Missouri was interesting because of the placement of the two exit arrows.  They are so close to the top of the sign, yet they don't impede your ability to read any of the other symbology!  I kind of like it.  (The one on the right)

https://goo.gl/maps/kwKuLgYyseGaNGRy8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 01, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
That lane control sign with the route marker in it is pretty neat too. Is that something Washington does regularly?

It's not a regular thing, but there are other examples. None that I can think of readily, to be fair.

What I've always found most interesting about that lane use sign, is the inverted shield. WA's bust is almost always black-on-white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 01, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
That lane control sign with the route marker in it is pretty neat too. Is that something Washington does regularly?

It's not a regular thing, but there are other examples. None that I can think of readily, to be fair.

What I've always found most interesting about that lane use sign, is the inverted shield. WA's bust is almost always black-on-white.
I like the use of the inverted shield in cases like this.  I get it's not the "official" design, but since the shape is distinctive, it's still recognizable, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 01, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
That lane control sign with the route marker in it is pretty neat too. Is that something Washington does regularly?

It's not a regular thing, but there are other examples. None that I can think of readily, to be fair.

What I've always found most interesting about that lane use sign, is the inverted shield. WA's bust is almost always black-on-white.
I like the use of the inverted shield in cases like this.  I get it's not the "official" design, but since the shape is distinctive, it's still recognizable, in my opinion.

I concur. What WSDOT will usually do on HOV signage, which is black-on-white up here, is used outline shields. Which are cool in their own right, but I think an inverted shield would be better

I've also seen white-on-green shields, but those are a bit less common. There's also black-on-orange, which are reserved for construction signage. I certainly appreciate our decidedly simple state route marker, as it can be used in so many different ways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 01, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
That lane control sign with the route marker in it is pretty neat too. Is that something Washington does regularly?

It's not a regular thing, but there are other examples. None that I can think of readily, to be fair.

What I've always found most interesting about that lane use sign, is the inverted shield. WA's bust is almost always black-on-white.
I like the use of the inverted shield in cases like this.  I get it's not the "official" design, but since the shape is distinctive, it's still recognizable, in my opinion.

I concur. What WSDOT will usually do on HOV signage, which is black-on-white up here, is used outline shields. Which are cool in their own right, but I think an inverted shield would be better

I've also seen white-on-green shields, but those are a bit less common. There's also black-on-orange, which are reserved for construction signage. I certainly appreciate our decidedly simple state route marker, as it can be used in so many different ways.
I remember where I used to live in CT, all of the HOV signs for this one exit had no border around the state route shield (a square), so we ended up with this: https://goo.gl/maps/fg89eQeCDcf8Katq7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on May 02, 2019, 03:03:08 PM
Just encountered this on /r/montreal
(https://preview.redd.it/0bvvs6ch7tv21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=dfbe4c4f4f5470781004394c47e156565cdca10b)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thspfc on May 02, 2019, 06:13:30 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3001081,-89.0572547,3a,15y,77.58h,91.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0P8hgANQDMQqckThPjkENA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3001081,-89.0572547,3a,15y,77.58h,91.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0P8hgANQDMQqckThPjkENA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
73?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 02, 2019, 07:26:48 PM
^^ That could go in the Faded Beyond Recognition thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on May 02, 2019, 08:43:42 PM
Detour in French is deviation. What does beaudry mean?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on May 02, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 02, 2019, 08:43:42 PM
Detour in French is deviation. What does beaudry mean?

That's probably a street name (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Beaudry,+Montr%C3%A9al,+QC,+Canada/@45.5203891,-73.5618396,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cc91bb112a7f23b:0x69194a379ce69b07!8m2!3d45.5203891!4d-73.5596509).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 02, 2019, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 01, 2019, 11:29:31 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 01, 2019, 01:52:35 AM
That lane control sign with the route marker in it is pretty neat too. Is that something Washington does regularly?

It's not a regular thing, but there are other examples. None that I can think of readily, to be fair.

What I've always found most interesting about that lane use sign, is the inverted shield. WA's bust is almost always black-on-white.
I like the use of the inverted shield in cases like this.  I get it's not the "official" design, but since the shape is distinctive, it's still recognizable, in my opinion.

I concur. What WSDOT will usually do on HOV signage, which is black-on-white up here, is used outline shields. Which are cool in their own right, but I think an inverted shield would be better

I've also seen white-on-green shields, but those are a bit less common. There's also black-on-orange, which are reserved for construction signage. I certainly appreciate our decidedly simple state route marker, as it can be used in so many different ways.

Another inverted Washington State shield. (https://goo.gl/maps/fYYp4VzY9rQ585em7)  It looks like a temporary construction contractor sign that never went away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on May 03, 2019, 07:55:16 PM
Groveport, Ohio is having trouble growing some of its roads to match the industrial growth of its surrounding cities and townships. Either that or they have zoned their roads very differently from their neighbors. They also are rather creative in the signage department.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/3964ec355bd31c52503df1f4d6031e00.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on May 03, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
From what I can tell, this area isn't even bilingual.

From what I can tell, this area isn't even bilingual.

Por lo que puedo decir, esta área ni siquiera es bilingüe. (excuse Google Translate)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on May 03, 2019, 08:21:36 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 03, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
From what I can tell, this area isn't even bilingual.

From what I can tell, this area isn't even bilingual.

Por lo que puedo decir, esta área ni siquiera es bilingüe. (excuse Google Translate)

It's an interesting area, but the truckers serving it are certainly from many different cultures. In fact, very near that sign (in the no camiones zone) is a mosque.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 04, 2019, 03:32:40 PM
I didn't even notice this until the day after I took this photo

(https://i.imgur.com/bsll3xE.jpg)

Not sure how often this happens but this is the first time I've ever seen a State Highway and a Farm-to-Market road get mixed up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 05, 2019, 03:57:14 AM
I have no idea where to post this...  I think this counts as "bad" as the sign appears to have been installed without much thought. An intersection in Walla Walla (WA) has a "no turn on red" sign for an approach where the right turn occurs via a slip lane: Plaza Way @ Tietan St (http://bit.ly/2vAg2Hd).

(https://i.imgur.com/94KNXMw.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on May 05, 2019, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 02, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 02, 2019, 08:43:42 PM
Detour in French is deviation. What does beaudry mean?

That's probably a street name (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rue+Beaudry,+Montr%C3%A9al,+QC,+Canada/@45.5203891,-73.5618396,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4cc91bb112a7f23b:0x69194a379ce69b07!8m2!3d45.5203891!4d-73.5596509).

Yes.  But the main reason I posted it: the detour indicates that one should go to the left.  However, the intersection is posted as right turn only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ned Weasel on May 05, 2019, 06:32:25 PM
Here's an odd, non-standard lane diagram sign for an intersection in Harrisonburg, VA that I've never seen before.  This photo was taken by a friend: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7r656okppvhzbpa/photo_2019-05-05_17-12-05.jpg?dl=0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 05, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on May 05, 2019, 06:32:25 PM
Here's an odd, non-standard lane diagram sign for an intersection in Harrisonburg, VA that I've never seen before.  This photo was taken by a friend: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7r656okppvhzbpa/photo_2019-05-05_17-12-05.jpg?dl=0
That just looks needlessly confusing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 06, 2019, 10:46:38 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 05, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on May 05, 2019, 06:32:25 PM
Here's an odd, non-standard lane diagram sign for an intersection in Harrisonburg, VA that I've never seen before.  This photo was taken by a friend: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7r656okppvhzbpa/photo_2019-05-05_17-12-05.jpg?dl=0
That just looks needlessly confusing.

I am often both impressed and appalled by some agencies' ability to create custom signs for situations in which a standard sign has existed for decades...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 06, 2019, 07:29:51 PM
Could not figure out what this red X sign was supposed to mean. Taken southbound on US 29 at Astor Avenue, south of downtown Atlanta:

(https://i.imgur.com/Lprxw5B.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on May 06, 2019, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 06, 2019, 07:29:51 PM
Could not figure out what this red X sign was supposed to mean. Taken southbound on US 29 at Astor Avenue, south of downtown Atlanta:

It means "don't use this lane because opposing traffic uses it", using the same idiom that other Atlanta streets do for reversible lanes (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7609307,-84.3465596,3a,75y,242.31h,90.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfFvwy7FosoXRHzSCiW9ctw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Why they went to extra lengths to point it out here, I'm not sure; maybe there was a rash of head-on collisions at some point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 06, 2019, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
I remember where I used to live in CT, all of the HOV signs for this one exit had no border around the state route shield (a square), so we ended up with this: https://goo.gl/maps/fg89eQeCDcf8Katq7

I've seen this sort of thing in Texas as well.

Here's one example. (https://goo.gl/maps/QHKYiDQK3Vo4jaZf6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 06, 2019, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2019, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
I remember where I used to live in CT, all of the HOV signs for this one exit had no border around the state route shield (a square), so we ended up with this: https://goo.gl/maps/fg89eQeCDcf8Katq7

I've seen this sort of thing in Texas as well.

Here's one example. (https://goo.gl/maps/QHKYiDQK3Vo4jaZf6)

Interesting that the Hazardous Cargo sign got a border, but not the route marker.

WA example with a border: http://bit.ly/2H4moVM
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on May 10, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
From Amsterdam, NY:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9361952,-74.1919608,3a,75y,42.01h,71.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLv41h5XeaeGZWgBBDkiZKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9361952,-74.1919608,3a,75y,42.01h,71.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLv41h5XeaeGZWgBBDkiZKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 10, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
I love when people post links without any description of what we're supposed to be seeing.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on May 10, 2019, 10:05:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 06, 2019, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2019, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 01, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
I remember where I used to live in CT, all of the HOV signs for this one exit had no border around the state route shield (a square), so we ended up with this: https://goo.gl/maps/fg89eQeCDcf8Katq7

I've seen this sort of thing in Texas as well.

Here's one example. (https://goo.gl/maps/QHKYiDQK3Vo4jaZf6)

Interesting that the Hazardous Cargo sign got a border, but not the route marker.

WA example with a border: http://bit.ly/2H4moVM

Seems the 8 1/2 FEET MAX  and the WIDE LOADS legends should be swapped to make the message clearer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 01:52:49 PM
Quote from: Verlanka on May 10, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
From Amsterdam, NY:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9361952,-74.1919608,3a,75y,42.01h,71.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLv41h5XeaeGZWgBBDkiZKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9361952,-74.1919608,3a,75y,42.01h,71.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLv41h5XeaeGZWgBBDkiZKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 10, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
I love when people post links without any description of what we're supposed to be seeing.

:rolleyes:

I hate all links without a description of what to expect there.  Even if my best friend texts me a URL, I don't click on it unless he tells me why I'd want to.

At any rate, it could be the 'CITY SPEED LIMIT 30' or the 'END ONE WAY' signs.  Without knowing if either one of those is standard in New York, I have no way of knowing if they're unique in that location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 10, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 01:52:49 PMAt any rate, it could be the 'CITY SPEED LIMIT 30' or the 'END ONE WAY' signs.  Without knowing if either one of those is standard in New York, I have no way of knowing if they're unique in that location.

Without a description or scholium, I'd assume attention was being called to "End One Way," because that is putatively a custom design under the MUTCD general get-out clause for custom word-message signs, while "City Speed Limit XX" is a standard sign in New York.  But I speak as someone who has a print copy of the 1984 NYSMUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 02:29:53 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 10, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
scholium

How does one type in the margins on here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 10, 2019, 02:33:50 PM
I'm afraid you have caught me--I had forgotten appearance in the margin as an element of the definition of scholium.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
Catching J N Winkler on the definition of an obscure word...  Isn't that worth some sort of trophy?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on May 10, 2019, 05:38:53 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 10, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 01:52:49 PMAt any rate, it could be the 'CITY SPEED LIMIT 30' or the 'END ONE WAY' signs.  Without knowing if either one of those is standard in New York, I have no way of knowing if they're unique in that location.

Without a description or scholium, I'd assume attention was being called to "End One Way," because that is putatively a custom design under the MUTCD general get-out clause for custom word-message signs, while "City Speed Limit XX" is a standard sign in New York.  But I speak as someone who has a print copy of the 1984 NYSMUTCD.

"End One Way"  is a standard MUTCD sign. It's an R6-7.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
Wow, JNW is really slipping lately.  We may need to stage an intervention of some sort...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on May 11, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 10, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
Without a description or scholium, I'd assume attention was being called to "End One Way," because that is putatively a custom design under the MUTCD general get-out clause for custom word-message signs, while "City Speed Limit XX" is a standard sign in New York.  But I speak as someone who has a print copy of the 1984 NYSMUTCD.

I was referencing the fact that signs were appearing even though the street continues to be one-way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on May 11, 2019, 09:58:52 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on May 11, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 10, 2019, 02:21:03 PM
Without a description or scholium, I'd assume attention was being called to "End One Way," because that is putatively a custom design under the MUTCD general get-out clause for custom word-message signs, while "City Speed Limit XX" is a standard sign in New York.  But I speak as someone who has a print copy of the 1984 NYSMUTCD.

I was referencing the fact that signs were appearing even though the street continues to be one-way.

But it's not one way. There's opposing traffic. So the sign is correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 11, 2019, 10:15:14 AM
Re: the signs at the north end of the Route 30 bridge in Amsterdam.  That section of Church Street north of Main was one way for many years, but in the fairly recent reconfiguration, both that section of Church and most of the nearby portion of the Route 5 westbound arterial were reconfigured for two-way traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 11, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Many have heard of louvered backplates, but I saw louvered signs for the first time: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190511/e3045b3d64df096d0f3544d1dbdf9b4e.jpg)


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 11, 2019, 01:34:12 PM
Quote from: Verlanka on May 10, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
From Amsterdam, NY:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9361952,-74.1919608,3a,75y,42.01h,71.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLv41h5XeaeGZWgBBDkiZKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9361952,-74.1919608,3a,75y,42.01h,71.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLv41h5XeaeGZWgBBDkiZKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I was gonna post this, I go here all the time for trains.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 01:35:12 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 11, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Many have heard of louvered backplates, but I saw louvered signs for the first time: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190511/e3045b3d64df096d0f3544d1dbdf9b4e.jpg)


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Must be very windy in that area. They probably did that so it wont break the arm gantry.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 11, 2019, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 06, 2019, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 06, 2019, 07:29:51 PM
Could not figure out what this red X sign was supposed to mean. Taken southbound on US 29 at Astor Avenue, south of downtown Atlanta:

It means "don't use this lane because opposing traffic uses it", using the same idiom that other Atlanta streets do for reversible lanes (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7609307,-84.3465596,3a,75y,242.31h,90.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfFvwy7FosoXRHzSCiW9ctw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Why they went to extra lengths to point it out here, I'm not sure; maybe there was a rash of head-on collisions at some point.


The other direction has the X sign as well (https://goo.gl/maps/TGXxgpvhNWuF9JVj9) though it is faded completely out except a piece of the red border in the lower right of the sign)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 11, 2019, 03:13:49 PM
QuoteMust be very windy in that area. They probably did that so it wont break the arm gantry.

Interesting solution but even in this area where the Santa Anas lay waste every fall and the utility lines are buried (no poles), I've never seen that out here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 11, 2019, 06:44:10 PM
I don't know if this is common or if I'm living under a rock but I've never seen a distance sign with four entities on it.

Taken on US-259 SB in Morris County, TX on November 7th, 2018.

(https://i.imgur.com/mO339aE.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 11, 2019, 03:13:49 PM
QuoteMust be very windy in that area. They probably did that so it wont break the arm gantry.

Interesting solution but even in this area where the Santa Anas lay waste every fall and the utility lines are buried (no poles), I've never seen that out here.
Well thats a traffic light so this is different, have you ever saw when its windy they bounce, well they do that so it wont break like a tree in the wind, but even trees break under very windy stormy conditions so an arm mast made of metal will have a higher chance of breaking especially with signs that give it resistance to the wind.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 11, 2019, 09:58:58 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 11, 2019, 06:44:10 PM
I don't know if this is common or if I'm living under a rock but I've never seen a distance sign with four entities on it.

Taken on US-259 SB in Morris County, TX on November 7th, 2018.

(https://i.imgur.com/mO339aE.jpg)

Four is much less common - I think New Jersey has a few with four destinations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on May 11, 2019, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 11, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Many have heard of louvered backplates, but I saw louvered signs for the first time: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190511/e3045b3d64df096d0f3544d1dbdf9b4e.jpg)


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That looks to be US Route 1 in Saco, ME. I used to live one town over in Old Orchard Beach.  :clap:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on May 11, 2019, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 11, 2019, 09:58:58 PM
Four is much less common - I think New Jersey has a few with four destinations.
Here's one leaving Baltimore, MD on I-70 Westbound.

Also, it's one of the few long-distance mileage signs.

(https://i.ibb.co/6bZvpn1/I70-Leaving-Baltimore.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 12, 2019, 12:14:04 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 11, 2019, 03:13:49 PM
QuoteMust be very windy in that area. They probably did that so it wont break the arm gantry.

Interesting solution but even in this area where the Santa Anas lay waste every fall and the utility lines are buried (no poles), I've never seen that out here.
Well thats a traffic light so this is different, have you ever saw when its windy they bounce, well they do that so it wont break like a tree in the wind, but even trees break under very windy stormy conditions so an arm mast made of metal will have a higher chance of breaking especially with signs that give it resistance to the wind.


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That's exactly what I mean -- we don't use traffic lights hanging off wire lines here; everything is a mastarm because of the winds, but regular signs are mounted to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 12, 2019, 12:15:58 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 12, 2019, 12:14:04 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 11, 2019, 03:13:49 PM
QuoteMust be very windy in that area. They probably did that so it wont break the arm gantry.

Interesting solution but even in this area where the Santa Anas lay waste every fall and the utility lines are buried (no poles), I've never seen that out here.
Well thats a traffic light so this is different, have you ever saw when its windy they bounce, well they do that so it wont break like a tree in the wind, but even trees break under very windy stormy conditions so an arm mast made of metal will have a higher chance of breaking especially with signs that give it resistance to the wind.


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That's exactly what I mean -- we don't use traffic lights hanging off wire lines here; everything is a mastarm because of the winds, but regular signs are mounted to it.
It has to be alot of wind on that specific road for them to do that if you guys already have mast arms everywhere. Maybe it's something new they are doing or it could be just a strong flow of wind down that corridor, I've only seen that hole punched design on high bridges & plastic signs.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on May 12, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 11, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Many have heard of louvered backplates, but I saw louvered signs for the first time:
[image snipped]

Overhead "louvered" signs are very common around Maine. You'll mostly see it with lane assignment signs such as seen in your photo, but they sometimes make it onto smaller guide signs...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8373/8597391865_1878015200_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

(https://i.imgur.com/UYahqnf.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 12, 2019, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

(https://i.imgur.com/UYahqnf.png)

That's really odd, I've never seen that before either. I don't know if the word "Required" would fit on that sign though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on May 12, 2019, 05:42:59 PM
I didn't think this warranted its own thread, but I wanted to ask. Does any other state use the state route shield for purposes other than marking a state route? 

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190512/67ac5443ae687e67bdff18e94c22d978.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2019, 06:47:28 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 11, 2019, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 11, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
Many have heard of louvered backplates, but I saw louvered signs for the first time: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190511/e3045b3d64df096d0f3544d1dbdf9b4e.jpg)


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That looks to be US Route 1 in Saco, ME. I used to live one town over in Old Orchard Beach.  :clap:
Correct, took a trip to Winnocks Neck Rd in Scarborough


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

[Image Deleted]
Interesting, why didn't they just use needed or another synonym


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 12, 2019, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 12, 2019, 05:15:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

(https://i.imgur.com/UYahqnf.png)

That's really odd, I've never seen that before either. I don't know if the word "Required" would fit on that sign though.
That reminded me of a sign on the ramp from DE-1 NB to DE-58 WB in Churchmans Crossing ("Right Turn on Red Permitted"): https://goo.gl/maps/2cEH37qyNmZKVYob8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 12, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
All of the original construction BGS on I-5 from North Seattle through Lynnwood were louvered.  They were square grids with backing that angled down.  Viewed from the air you could see right through them but they had a green background when viewed from the freeway.  They were olive drab and ugly.  I'm not surprised they were all replaced, but now I'm trying to find a picture of them to confirm they existed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 12, 2019, 07:47:55 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 12, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
All of the original construction BGS on I-5 from North Seattle through Lynnwood were louvered.  They were square grids with backing that angled down.  Viewed from the air you could see right through them but they had a green background when viewed from the freeway.  They were olive drab and ugly.  I'm not surprised they were all replaced, but now I'm trying to find a picture of them to confirm they existed.
Please do.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 12, 2019, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: 6a on May 12, 2019, 05:42:59 PM
I didn't think this warranted its own thread, but I wanted to ask. Does any other state use the state route shield for purposes other than marking a state route? 

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190512/67ac5443ae687e67bdff18e94c22d978.jpg)

A Pennsylvania example, possible a one-off - (https://goo.gl/maps/pRjQp)
South Carolina uses an inverted colors version of their shield to say DRIVE SAFELY.  I have seen several examples of this and here is one - https://goo.gl/maps/18HmtaZeakxeJhGN9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 12, 2019, 08:20:30 PM
Utah uses the state highway shield with "Utah" inside to mark various DOT properties such as maintenance sheds:

https://goo.gl/maps/c2hRhQgMveDtPjdq7
https://goo.gl/maps/zShZaeCDzuLQQzdM8
https://goo.gl/maps/cfgJrEHY5sNzaiXH7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on May 12, 2019, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

[Image Deleted]
Interesting, why didn't they just use needed or another synonym

I usually see the much simpler message "KEEP MOVING" (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9824566,-84.3406437,3a,75y,261.07h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFM8YPZTreu0LF-PSZZk1uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on May 12, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 12, 2019, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

[Image Deleted]
Interesting, why didn't they just use needed or another synonym

I usually see the much simpler message "KEEP MOVING" (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9824566,-84.3406437,3a,75y,261.07h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFM8YPZTreu0LF-PSZZk1uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) instead.

"KEEP MOVING" doesn't allow you to stop. The way the sign is currently worded, if there is no gap in traffic, you are allowed to stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 12, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 12, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 12, 2019, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

[Image Deleted]
Interesting, why didn't they just use needed or another synonym

I usually see the much simpler message "KEEP MOVING" (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9824566,-84.3406437,3a,75y,261.07h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFM8YPZTreu0LF-PSZZk1uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) instead.

"KEEP MOVING" doesn't allow you to stop. The way the sign is currently worded, if there is no gap in traffic, you are allowed to stop.
Would a YIELD sign suffice?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 13, 2019, 01:54:38 AM
^^
I believe the sign I posted is synonymous with "keep moving" signage or "added lane" signage.



This seems like an obvious rule...when you're light turns red, stop to let left turns finish their maneuver. Not sure why they needed to sign this. My guess is, because traffic from the right immediately gets a green left arrow, the right turn can very nearly proceed without stopping. But they do need to stop momentarily to let left turns go. But, this is a very common setup all over the place, so the sign is still a bit redundant.

Mountain Hwy @ Lynn Valley Rd, North Vancouver, BC (http://bit.ly/2Jg8QJ7)

(https://i.imgur.com/xXj5yIL.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 13, 2019, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: Big John on May 12, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 12, 2019, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: Eth on May 12, 2019, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 12, 2019, 04:19:32 PM
Tooele, UT:

Not sure I've seen "REQ'D" on a sign before.

[Image Deleted]
Interesting, why didn't they just use needed or another synonym

I usually see the much simpler message "KEEP MOVING" (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9824566,-84.3406437,3a,75y,261.07h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFM8YPZTreu0LF-PSZZk1uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) instead.

"KEEP MOVING" doesn't allow you to stop. The way the sign is currently worded, if there is no gap in traffic, you are allowed to stop.
Would a YIELD sign suffice?

YIELD is not the right sign because traffic gets its own lane.  The Akron-area sign for a right turn (usually channelized) with no need to yield unless there is some other reason downstream is a wordy one: CONTINUOUS RIGHT TURN WITH CAUTION (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1356439,-81.6265242,3a,75y,269.84h,84.82t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1rJ12IvDdZWDYCWEjl21gg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D1rJ12IvDdZWDYCWEjl21gg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D206.00418%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656).  It is not uncommon to see people stop anyway...something to the effect of "no need to stop" would clarify.  I like the "no stop required" one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on May 13, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
Or put no sign at all. Or a W4-3/W4-6.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 13, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 13, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
Or put no sign at all. Or a W4-3/W4-6.

Precisely. There is already a symbol to indicate this exact situation. No need to use a wordy text-only sign. Or a sign at all, assuming the markings were clear enough.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 13, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 13, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 13, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
Or put no sign at all. Or a W4-3/W4-6.

Precisely. There is already a symbol to indicate this exact situation. No need to use a wordy text-only sign. Or a sign at all, assuming the markings were clear enough.

The problem is at otherwise-signalized intersections like the one I linked to, people often like to think they have to stop, even with the sign.  The added-lane sign should be enough, but doesn't seem to be enough to get through some people's dense skulls.  They would probably claim that they thought it meant that they had to merge/yield...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 13, 2019, 09:37:43 PM
A couple days ago I saw an "Arrive Alive" posting on a sign that is very Pennsylvania keystone-like, but in Virginia. Couldn't get a pic but here it is on GSV.

US 60 Warwick Blvd in front of Warwick High School in Newport News

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190514/963fc0f554580b3cffcfe420dcaaea7d.jpg)

SM-S820L

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 14, 2019, 02:00:55 PM
I keep running into all sorts of weird signs.

Here's one I found in Florida, from Hwy 574 to northbound I-75 (http://bit.ly/2HrPEVi).

Interstate shield without any of the coloring. I personally love it, but I can see others not sharing that opinion.

(https://i.imgur.com/3W6nzpo.png)

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 13, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 13, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 13, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
Or put no sign at all. Or a W4-3/W4-6.

Precisely. There is already a symbol to indicate this exact situation. No need to use a wordy text-only sign. Or a sign at all, assuming the markings were clear enough.

The problem is at otherwise-signalized intersections like the one I linked to, people often like to think they have to stop, even with the sign.  The added-lane sign should be enough, but doesn't seem to be enough to get through some people's dense skulls.  They would probably claim that they thought it meant that they had to merge/yield...

It seems to be enough around here. I know of no textual signs like those listed up-thread in either WA or BC, and the latter has a ton of right-turn slip lanes, many that are added lanes. Both places use the standard "added lane" symbol. If people stop, big deal. Just make sure drivers are ready to honk!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 14, 2019, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2019, 02:00:55 PM
Interstate shield without any of the coloring. I personally love it, but I can see others not sharing that opinion.

I loved it at first glance, but then my feelings for it quickly began to fade.  If I were unfamiliar with the neighborhood and just wanted to get back on the Interstate, my eyes would be hunting for the red and blue more than the shape or number. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 15, 2019, 03:08:09 AM
I think it would be better if it were inverted (white crown and green shield with white numbers).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 15, 2019, 09:11:53 AM
Quote from: plain on May 13, 2019, 09:37:43 PM
A couple days ago I saw an "Arrive Alive" posting on a sign that is very Pennsylvania keystone-like, but in Virginia. Couldn't get a pic but here it is on GSV.

US 60 Warwick Blvd in front of Warwick High School in Newport News

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190514/963fc0f554580b3cffcfe420dcaaea7d.jpg)

Yeah, I forgot about how odd that was...it's Virginia, not Pennsylvania. And "Arrive Alive" has been a common mantra by FDOT for decades.

(Maybe someone had relatives in both states?)

Here's the one I found on VA 105, also in Newport News:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2768/31975356914_18680e771e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QHy4B9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 15, 2019, 03:19:43 PM
I have the day off and I went for a walk around Lake Accotink. Found this along an auxiliary trail in the woods near where it connects to the main four-mile loop trail. Thought it was quite unusual to find this in this sort of location, and I thought the modified T-intersection sign was interesting (entirely correct, too). The main trail to which this connects down at the bottom of the hill in the first picture is unpaved, BTW, so I kind of thought something more than "Yield" might be appropriate.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190515/f896ebff58d5fdc6abe68d44313fb074.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190515/8ef7d83a1d8c633d1098053407816b83.jpg)

Here's roughly where it is. No Street View or user photos there. (https://goo.gl/maps/8RaC9Z4ynUnGX9Hg8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 06:48:42 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190516/306de8307e47c9f59c7809d0e5d99458.jpg)
Bikes use this signal, I don't like this sign used on Pennsylvanian avenue in DC. My least favorite use is at Constitution Ave instead of buying a bike signal they make all the cars stop for no pedestrians, or conflicting movements.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2019, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 06:48:42 AM
My least favorite use is at Constitution Ave instead of buying a bike signal they make all the cars stop for no pedestrians, or conflicting movements.

Normally the signs don't bother me, but that intersection is indeed a point where that style of signal isn't sufficient. I've seen many drivers just blow through the red light there when left turns are going. But who can blame them? There's no conflicts (except for bikes).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 03:21:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 16, 2019, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 06:48:42 AM
My least favorite use is at Constitution Ave instead of buying a bike signal they make all the cars stop for no pedestrians, or conflicting movements.

Normally the signs don't bother me, but that intersection is indeed a point where that style of signal isn't sufficient. I've seen many drivers just blow through the red light there when left turns are going. But who can blame them? There's no conflicts (except for bikes).
Yeah, it's a dumb light, I wish they had a crosswalk on the east end there, maybe they planned to. Btw Jake you've been there before?


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 16, 2019, 05:07:10 PM
Everett has a waterfront trail that runs along part of SR 529, but has its own separate mileposts that are divided into half-mile increments (something that isn't common in WA).

(https://i.imgur.com/i7vFyDJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2019, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 03:21:49 PM
Btw Jake you've been there before?

Yes I live in DC about 8-10 weeks each year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 16, 2019, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 03:21:49 PM
Btw Jake you've been there before?

Yes, I live in DC about 8-10 weeks each year.
Wow, that's very cool!!! I thought you were in Washington State for 100% of the year, not around 83%.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 16, 2019, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 16, 2019, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 03:21:49 PM
Btw Jake you've been there before?

Yes, I live in DC about 8-10 weeks each year.
Wow, that's very cool!!! I thought you were in Washington State for 100% of the year, not around 83%.

He cycles between places named "Washington", apparently.

Give me a heads-up when you end up in Washington, Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 16, 2019, 09:39:47 PM
As I've described it elsewhere, my new favorite roadsign...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32877984857_a6b8f3af35_z.jpg)

This particular one was in the NW corner of Cedar County, Iowa (about 17 miles east of Cedar Rapids).
Truth in advertising, in Iowa?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 16, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
I'm less amused by the main sign (having seen similar signage elsewhere) as by the very specific information provided in the plaque:  LEVEL B SERVICE.  Am I supposed to believe the average Iowan knows what Level B service is?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 16, 2019, 10:14:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
I'm less amused by the main sign (having seen similar signage elsewhere) as by the very specific information provided in the plaque:  LEVEL B SERVICE.  Am I supposed to believe the average Iowan knows what Level B service is?

<shrugs shoulders>
I just think its interesting that Iowa (local gov'ts?) appears to be publicly "throwing their hands up" with some of their roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 16, 2019, 10:36:43 PM
NYSDOT "throws its hands up" with "ROUGH ROAD" signs, notably on NY 85's limited access section before a crack and seat job was finally done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 16, 2019, 10:43:31 PM
^^ ROUGH ROAD is a MUTCD standard sign (W8-8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2019, 11:13:40 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 16, 2019, 06:54:37 PM
Wow, that's very cool!!! I thought you were in Washington State for 100% of the year, not around 83%.

I legally only live in Washington State, but I live part of the year in DC with my mother (who lives there full-time). I don't reside in Vancouver either, but am there for school and other activities so frequently that I feel I can mention it on my profile as a location without harm, especially given my knowledge of the area.

Quote from: Scott5114 on May 16, 2019, 06:59:18 PM
He cycles between places named "Washington", apparently.

Give me a heads-up when you end up in Washington, Oklahoma.

I love a good Washington! Washington, OK, and then Washington, England...and then the four-hundred other Washington's eventually. Maybe even a tribute to Western Australia is in order.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 17, 2019, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 16, 2019, 10:36:43 PM
NYSDOT "throws its hands up" with "ROUGH ROAD" signs, notably on NY 85's limited access section before a crack and seat job was finally done.
NYSDOT has been throwing their hands up since they realized they were never going to build the roads they needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 17, 2019, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 17, 2019, 08:48:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 16, 2019, 10:36:43 PM
NYSDOT "throws its hands up" with "ROUGH ROAD" signs, notably on NY 85's limited access section before a crack and seat job was finally done.
NYSDOT has been throwing their hands up since they realized they were never going to build the roads they needed.
In a way, yes.  You could call the whole "Preservation First" approach to capital programming as NYSDOT giving up in the face of underfunding given the actual needs of the system.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on May 18, 2019, 09:25:30 PM
Not sure I've seen an island shown on an advance lane usage sign:  WB I-88 Exit to Cermak/22nd Street in Oak Brook, IL. (https://goo.gl/maps/Eb7Y3ebnVABAa5pP9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 18, 2019, 10:03:33 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 18, 2019, 09:25:30 PM
Not sure I've seen an island shown on an advance lane usage sign:  WB I-88 Exit to Cermak/22nd Street in Oak Brook, IL. (https://goo.gl/maps/Eb7Y3ebnVABAa5pP9)
Hmm, strange idea but I think it works well! I've never seen anything like that! No surprise it's IL


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 19, 2019, 10:00:27 AM
Looks like they just put together a bunch of sign pieces here to make the shield assembly.  Also Disney World is left over from when signs on the Turnpike used to send folks in via the back door down 27 to 192 before the sprawl changed it and of course now FL 429 which goes there faster and easier several miles to the south.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32936647157_f977c1315d_k_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on May 19, 2019, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
I'm less amused by the main sign (having seen similar signage elsewhere) as by the very specific information provided in the plaque:  LEVEL B SERVICE.  Am I supposed to believe the average Iowan knows what Level B service is?

I cannot speak for "average" Iowans, but most Iowans that live in the country better know what those signs mean, or have a wrecker on speed dial to pull them out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 21, 2019, 08:24:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/40937567543/in/dateposted-public/
This one is interesting that they would add an Exit Closed tab on it instead of covering it with a tarp once its raised up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 22, 2019, 12:43:51 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 21, 2019, 08:24:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/40937567543/in/dateposted-public/
This one is interesting that they would add an Exit Closed tab on it instead of covering it with a tarp once its raised up.
A tab mounting *is* unusual...

In Nevada, sometimes we cover the whole sign with tarp. But more often, that orange "exit closed" placard (or simply a "closed" placard; or even a standard "ramp closed" sign) would just be mounted at an angle over the sign text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 22, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
I'm less amused by the main sign (having seen similar signage elsewhere) as by the very specific information provided in the plaque:  LEVEL B SERVICE.  Am I supposed to believe the average Iowan knows what Level B service is?

What is meant by Level B service?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 22, 2019, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: mrsman on May 22, 2019, 01:06:54 PM

Quote from: kphoger on May 16, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
I'm less amused by the main sign (having seen similar signage elsewhere) as by the very specific information provided in the plaque:  LEVEL B SERVICE.  Am I supposed to believe the average Iowan knows what Level B service is?

What is meant by Level B service?

I don't know.  I'm not an average Iowan.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 22, 2019, 03:44:02 PM
Details (from a Story County, Iowa website) as to Level B classification for county roads (https://www.storycountyiowa.gov/415/Level-B-Roads)

It is essentially an Iowa-specific legal term of art for a minimum-maintenance classification (the actual extent of maintenance activity can apparently be varied from county to county) that allows counties to economize on maintenance while retaining the ability to claim qualified immunity in cases where motorist mishaps are traceable to lack of maintenance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on May 23, 2019, 11:29:38 PM
Definitely a unique sign here at the entrance for the Chester-Hadlyme ferry in Lyme, CT.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.420084,-72.4280223,3a,18.8y,334.66h,92.25t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMmxxYgdMFuiv72fBnK7Gm9TST8-JWiYXlqBz31!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMmxxYgdMFuiv72fBnK7Gm9TST8-JWiYXlqBz31%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya130.29396-ro-0-fo100!7i7680!8i3398 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.420084,-72.4280223,3a,18.8y,334.66h,92.25t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMmxxYgdMFuiv72fBnK7Gm9TST8-JWiYXlqBz31!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMmxxYgdMFuiv72fBnK7Gm9TST8-JWiYXlqBz31%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya130.29396-ro-0-fo100!7i7680!8i3398)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mass_citizen on May 24, 2019, 12:50:50 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 13, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 13, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 13, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
Or put no sign at all. Or a W4-3/W4-6.

Precisely. There is already a symbol to indicate this exact situation. No need to use a wordy text-only sign. Or a sign at all, assuming the markings were clear enough.

The problem is at otherwise-signalized intersections like the one I linked to, people often like to think they have to stop, even with the sign.  The added-lane sign should be enough, but doesn't seem to be enough to get through some people's dense skulls.  They would probably claim that they thought it meant that they had to merge/yield...

To be honest most people don't know what a lot of the graphic signs mean. Sometimes you need to spell it out plainly in words
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on May 24, 2019, 07:31:37 AM
Quote from: mass_citizen on May 24, 2019, 12:50:50 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 13, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 13, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on May 13, 2019, 12:23:29 PM
Or put no sign at all. Or a W4-3/W4-6.

Precisely. There is already a symbol to indicate this exact situation. No need to use a wordy text-only sign. Or a sign at all, assuming the markings were clear enough.

The problem is at otherwise-signalized intersections like the one I linked to, people often like to think they have to stop, even with the sign.  The added-lane sign should be enough, but doesn't seem to be enough to get through some people's dense skulls.  They would probably claim that they thought it meant that they had to merge/yield...

To be honest most people don't know what a lot of the graphic signs mean. Sometimes you need to spell it out plainly in words

The problem with using words is that people who don't speak English won't understand it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 24, 2019, 12:15:57 PM
Here's a bit of an oddball on CT-9 in New Britain: https://goo.gl/maps/vKu1cwdJW2q9qnqD8

Are just the exit tab and 71 shield button copy, and not the rest of the sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 24, 2019, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 24, 2019, 07:31:37 AM
The problem with using words is that people who don't speak English won't understand it.

I absolutely agree with you. But,
(https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/can-of-worms-gif-2.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 25, 2019, 09:49:41 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47926784377/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 25, 2019, 10:08:30 PM
Here are some inverted US 192 shields.  And NO they are not leftover from the FL Kodachrome Days as US 192 was shielded green before 1993.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47926937743/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jon12791 on May 26, 2019, 08:59:42 AM
Interesting

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4663062,-71.0615457,3a,75y,201.88h,73.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSMU5AX8bfpSp1ZhuIVK-3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on May 26, 2019, 09:21:30 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 25, 2019, 10:08:30 PM
And NO they are not leftover from the FL Kodachrome Days as US 192 was shielded green before 1993.

I thought US 192 was shielded yellow, not green.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 26, 2019, 10:37:43 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on May 26, 2019, 09:21:30 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 25, 2019, 10:08:30 PM
And NO they are not leftover from the FL Kodachrome Days as US 192 was shielded green before 1993.

I thought US 192 was shielded yellow, not green.
No it was green. US 17 through Kissimmee which is nearby was yellow along with US 301, 319, and 231.  US 23, 27, 192, and 331 were all green.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 26, 2019, 12:17:13 PM
This sign is so over-the-top officious in tone that I file it under "unintentional comedy."

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/1/12/Illinois-cigarette-bootlegging-sign.png)

Real-life example on I-72 near Hull (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7245415,-91.3453565,3a,15.1y,108.9h,86.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seqe7OKQVdhBqZ9Q6FhDa1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 26, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 26, 2019, 12:17:13 PM
This sign is so over-the-top officious in tone that I file it under "unintentional comedy."

(cigarette smuggling sign)

Real-life example on I-72 near Hull (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7245415,-91.3453565,3a,15.1y,108.9h,86.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seqe7OKQVdhBqZ9Q6FhDa1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
My mind went straight to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbnH0RBOkC8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 26, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
Washington used to have a lot of these: (no actual guard shacks, though)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/clBg4IrqOGk/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 27, 2019, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 26, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
Washington used to have a lot of these: (no actual guard shacks, though)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/clBg4IrqOGk/hqdefault.jpg)

I remember seeing those in 2012 and figured "we'll trust you on those apple maggots" because I didn't recall any inspection stations. There didn't seem to be places to turn around if you suddenly remembered you had some tiny critters just wandering around in your vehicle.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 27, 2019, 01:22:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 27, 2019, 12:21:19 PMI remember seeing those in 2012 and figured "we'll trust you on those apple maggots" because I didn't recall any inspection stations. There didn't seem to be places to turn around if you suddenly remembered you had some tiny critters just wandering around in your vehicle.

I am reasonably sure those signs were still posted in 2014 when I last visited Washington state, though I eventually ended up drawing them (down to the 800 number) from WSDOT SRView imagery.  I certainly never saw any evidence of enforcement measures involving mandatory inspection of any class of vehicle.

In the northern frontier tier states like Nebraska and South Dakota, there are what are called brand inspection areas.  Cattle based in these areas that are sold or transferred must (with certain exceptions) have their brands inspected by state officials.  There have been state line signs to indicate these requirements but not how to fulfill them, so they constitute classic examples of cryptic signing.

In South Dakota the brand inspection area consists of the counties west of the Missouri River.  In Nebraska it consists (roughly) of the western half of the state, with a brand inspection service area consisting of counties and county fragments that border directly on the brand inspection area; in this zone inspection is not required but is available on the same basis as in the inspection area proper.  The cost of inspection in both states is $1 per head plus reimbursement of time and mileage for the inspector if he or she has to travel to view the livestock.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 27, 2019, 02:25:00 PM
I'm putting this one in "bad".

I don't mind three destinations, but I think it should only be allowed when you can fit each destination on a single line. It's genuinely difficult to read (and interpret) this sign at-speed.

My only other issue with this sign, is the text being wrapped around the Scenic Highway shield.

(Technically, the cardinal direction is wrong as well, written in mixed-case).

https://goo.gl/maps/V63vHWhMJWB11RWU7

(https://i.imgur.com/8kgX3Ru.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 27, 2019, 08:56:11 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 26, 2019, 12:17:13 PM
This sign is so over-the-top officious in tone that I file it under "unintentional comedy."

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/1/12/Illinois-cigarette-bootlegging-sign.png)

Real-life example on I-72 near Hull (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7245415,-91.3453565,3a,15.1y,108.9h,86.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seqe7OKQVdhBqZ9Q6FhDa1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Cigarettes must be expensive in the neighboring state for them to put a sign up warning about Cigarette Smuggling, it is illegal to take large amounts of cigarettes to different states, they do not play about those cigarettes, they will jail you if you are caught selling them for lower than what they were bought.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 27, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 27, 2019, 08:56:11 PMCigarettes must be expensive in the neighboring state for them to put a sign up warning about Cigarette Smuggling, it is illegal to take large amounts of cigarettes to different states, they do not play about those cigarettes, they will jail you if you are caught selling them for lower than what they were bought.

I've seen these signs in person and StreetView only along Illinois' border with Missouri.  (Besides the I-72 example linked to, there is another along US 54.)  There is a Reason.com piece (https://reason.com/2018/07/31/cigarette-smuggling-to-thwart-the-taxman/) suggesting that tax competition is especially acute with Missouri because its $0.17/pack tax is lower than the $1.98/pack statewide tax in Illinois ($6.16/pack in Chicago) and the ~$1/pack tax in other states that border Missouri.

The 1-800-CHEAT-11 phone number is the general Illinois revenue fraud hotline, not dedicated specifically to cigarette taxes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 27, 2019, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 27, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 27, 2019, 08:56:11 PMCigarettes must be expensive in the neighboring state for them to put a sign up warning about Cigarette Smuggling, it is illegal to take large amounts of cigarettes to different states, they do not play about those cigarettes, they will jail you if you are caught selling them for lower than what they were bought.

I've seen these signs in person and StreetView only along Illinois' border with Missouri.  (Besides the I-72 example linked to, there is another along US 54.)  There is a Reason.com piece (https://reason.com/2018/07/31/cigarette-smuggling-to-thwart-the-taxman/) suggesting that tax competition is especially acute with Missouri because its $0.17/pack tax is lower than the $1.98/pack statewide tax in Illinois ($6.16/pack in Chicago) and the ~$1/pack tax in other states that border Missouri.

The 1-800-CHEAT-11 phone number is the general Illinois revenue fraud hotline, not dedicated specifically to cigarette taxes.
I get weirdly giddy when the topic of tax competition comes up, since it was the topic of my undergrad thesis (though that was focused on corporate tax competition).

So I'm still on topic, regarding a different sign.  This was just installed on DE-8 at US-13 in Dover (they're building a shopping center in the area).  That 8 is weirdly big (for reference, here are two "normal" DE-8 shields (https://goo.gl/maps/Xhe4tgY2dhNUkL8C6)):

(https://i.ibb.co/BBBF0q6/IMG-20190524-180537.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jDDsngw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 27, 2019, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 27, 2019, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 27, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 27, 2019, 08:56:11 PMCigarettes must be expensive in the neighboring state for them to put a sign up warning about Cigarette Smuggling, it is illegal to take large amounts of cigarettes to different states, they do not play about those cigarettes, they will jail you if you are caught selling them for lower than what they were bought.

I've seen these signs in person and StreetView only along Illinois' border with Missouri.  (Besides the I-72 example linked to, there is another along US 54.)  There is a Reason.com piece (https://reason.com/2018/07/31/cigarette-smuggling-to-thwart-the-taxman/) suggesting that tax competition is especially acute with Missouri because its $0.17/pack tax is lower than the $1.98/pack statewide tax in Illinois ($6.16/pack in Chicago) and the ~$1/pack tax in other states that border Missouri.

The 1-800-CHEAT-11 phone number is the general Illinois revenue fraud hotline, not dedicated specifically to cigarette taxes.
I get weirdly giddy when the topic of tax competition comes up, since it was the topic of my undergrad thesis (though that was focused on corporate tax competition).

So I'm still on topic, regarding a different sign.  This was just installed on DE-8 at US-13 in Dover (they're building a shopping center in the area).  That 8 is weirdly big:

(https://i.ibb.co/BBBF0q6/IMG-20190524-180537.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jDDsngw)
Since I would like to know about what you wrote about please tell us more & I will rebuttal your Delaware 8 Sign with this unusual Gem

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190528/157a899d515b23d9b8d46b7ab39e7d6c.jpg)

Delaware Route 4 Aka Maryland Ave




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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on May 28, 2019, 11:53:48 AM
Quote from: jon12791 on May 26, 2019, 08:59:42 AM
Interesting

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4663062,-71.0615457,3a,75y,201.88h,73.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSMU5AX8bfpSp1ZhuIVK-3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Years ago, "GO CHILDREN SLOW" was a staple in MA.  I hadn't seen "GO ELDERLY SLOW" until now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 28, 2019, 11:59:20 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 27, 2019, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 27, 2019, 08:56:11 PMCigarettes must be expensive in the neighboring state for them to put a sign up warning about Cigarette Smuggling, it is illegal to take large amounts of cigarettes to different states, they do not play about those cigarettes, they will jail you if you are caught selling them for lower than what they were bought.

I've seen these signs in person and StreetView only along Illinois' border with Missouri.  (Besides the I-72 example linked to, there is another along US 54.)  There is a Reason.com piece (https://reason.com/2018/07/31/cigarette-smuggling-to-thwart-the-taxman/) suggesting that tax competition is especially acute with Missouri because its $0.17/pack tax is lower than the $1.98/pack statewide tax in Illinois ($6.16/pack in Chicago) and the ~$1/pack tax in other states that border Missouri.

The 1-800-CHEAT-11 phone number is the general Illinois revenue fraud hotline, not dedicated specifically to cigarette taxes.
I've never saw those signs before, very interesting, over here on the East coast, people are known to bring cigarettes from Delaware to PA & NY & sell them for of course a way lower price than up norths prices, but surprised we have not saw the sign over here. Thats why I said it must be rampant over there. When a sign is put up you know it's serious


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 28, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
First time I ever saw the "cigarette smuggling" sign was entering Illinois on I-64 from Indiana. My guess is there's an issue with smokes bring brought from Kentucky, which has one of the lowest taxes in the country.

There are similar signs in Ohio regarding the importation of firewood, due to the proliferation of the emerald ash borer insect. I'd have to search for a photo, but I'm sure I have one somewhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on May 28, 2019, 10:25:10 PM
It is illegal to bring straw or hay that is not certified weed-free into a pacific northwest National Forest. Sadly, I do not have a picture of the sign but have seen it many times on US-93 just north of Lolo, Montana, and on US-12 just west of Lolo Pass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 28, 2019, 11:00:36 PM
^^  In a similar vein as these signs posted in Ohio at the Michigan border -- I don't know if they're still posted, but they went up at the time the emerald ash borer epidemic started in Michigan.

(https://i.imgur.com/FUnpcmo.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 29, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
I like it when a freeway is close to a state line as you get this:(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47959765072_3fd97eb48b_k_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 29, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
I like it when a freeway is close to a state line as you get this:(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47959765072_3fd97eb48b_k_d.jpg)
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 29, 2019, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 29, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
I like it when a freeway is close to a state line as you get this:(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47959765072_3fd97eb48b_k_d.jpg)
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6
and uses mismatching shields as NJ 168 is black bordered while US 130 is cutout.  Nice, but yeah why does NJ get a PA exit number?  That is not NJDOT doing that as exit numbers go from S to N on the E-W signed route in NJDOT world as they consider both I-76 and 676 to be one highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on May 30, 2019, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

Is it really invented, though, when the exit itself is also signed with that number?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

I like the next sign assembly.  Clearview* mixed with Highway Gothic, mismatched shield sizes, redundant down arrow lane control.  https://goo.gl/maps/GhUnycCmcd4C5eJK6

*I knew after I posted this that it wasn't Clearview, but I didn't know exactly what font it was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: myosh_tino on May 30, 2019, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

I like the next sign assembly.  Clearview mixed with Highway Gothic, mismatched shield sizes, redundant down arrow lane control.  https://goo.gl/maps/GhUnycCmcd4C5eJK6

That's not Clearview.  "Gloucester" is in Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 30, 2019, 12:45:43 PM
^^ That looks like Helvetica instead of Clearview, and it looks like it has a movable median barrier, thus the lighted arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 30, 2019, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 30, 2019, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

Is it really invented, though, when the exit itself is also signed with that number?

It's invented because the DRPA - the Bridge agency that operates this bridge, decided to give it Exit 354 rather than Exit 2.  This is on I-76 East.   On I-76 West, within NJDOT's jurisdiction, the exit is properly signed as Exit 2.   Many years ago, I called the DRPA about this.  I was told that since the bridge was in both states, they were allowed to continue using PA's exit numbers, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Quote from: Big John on May 30, 2019, 12:45:43 PM
^^ ...and it looks like it has a movable median barrier, thus the lighted arrows.

Correct.  The arrows light up based on which lanes are open. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on May 30, 2019, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

I like the next sign assembly.  Clearview mixed with Highway Gothic, mismatched shield sizes, redundant down arrow lane control.  https://goo.gl/maps/GhUnycCmcd4C5eJK6

This diamond shaped green exit sign down the interstate is pretty interesting too:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8907264,-75.1057697,3a,15.5y,192.19h,85.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTjNS6b7fvi00JxGYDgJYkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on May 31, 2019, 02:53:15 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on May 30, 2019, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

I like the next sign assembly.  Clearview mixed with Highway Gothic, mismatched shield sizes, redundant down arrow lane control.  https://goo.gl/maps/GhUnycCmcd4C5eJK6

This diamond shaped green exit sign down the interstate is pretty interesting too:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8907264,-75.1057697,3a,15.5y,192.19h,85.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTjNS6b7fvi00JxGYDgJYkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

...And, just before that one, an overhead has an especially nasty case of the shrunken-lowercase letters.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8910076,-75.1058557,3a,50.8y,175.62h,97.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sk5RqAlPI7ZlVs5aMZsdVOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2019, 03:31:52 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on May 30, 2019, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

I like the next sign assembly.  Clearview mixed with Highway Gothic, mismatched shield sizes, redundant down arrow lane control.  https://goo.gl/maps/GhUnycCmcd4C5eJK6

This diamond shaped green exit sign down the interstate is pretty interesting too:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8907264,-75.1057697,3a,15.5y,192.19h,85.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTjNS6b7fvi00JxGYDgJYkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There used to be a similar green diamond gore sign not too far from this location, along I-676/US 30 at the foot of the Ben Franklin Bridge in Camden. It's since been taken down, but it shows up on the September 2009 GSV:

https://goo.gl/maps/EDrt1NdjpQAc9xkf6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 31, 2019, 06:04:45 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on May 30, 2019, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 30, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on May 29, 2019, 01:58:24 PM
How about when the neighboring state "invents" an exit number that doesn't apply once crossing the state line? https://goo.gl/maps/HcMiNuud63VdGP7n6

I like the next sign assembly.  Clearview mixed with Highway Gothic, mismatched shield sizes, redundant down arrow lane control.  https://goo.gl/maps/GhUnycCmcd4C5eJK6

This diamond shaped green exit sign down the interstate is pretty interesting too:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8907264,-75.1057697,3a,15.5y,192.19h,85.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTjNS6b7fvi00JxGYDgJYkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That sign somehow survived a construction project many years ago, when it was used within the roadway to point to the exit when barriers were up.  I want to say it's been in place since the late 1990's, when the express/local lane divider was removed and the 2 roadways became one. Not only is the sign unusual, but NJ doesn't usually use the horizontal cross pieces to mount diamond signs either.

Edit to add: Could've been during the soundwall project; same time period.

Quote from: GenExpwy on May 31, 2019, 02:53:15 AM
...And, just before that one, an overhead has an especially nasty case of the shrunken-lowercase letters.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8910076,-75.1058557,3a,50.8y,175.62h,97.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sk5RqAlPI7ZlVs5aMZsdVOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That was a temporary coverup, when that right lane ended at 130 due to the current interchange project going on downstream.  The temporary coverup was removed within about a year when the lane became a thru lane again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 03, 2019, 10:27:03 PM
Remember when I mentioned that diamond shaped brown and white Park Entrance sign along Hillsborough CR 579 in Hillsborough River State Park?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brown_Park_Entrance_Warning_Sign;_NB_Morris_Bridge_Road.JPG


Here are some brown and white Road Closed signs at the gate to the Juniper Springs Recreational Area off of FL 40 in Ocala National Forest:


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juniper_Springs_Recreation_Area_Gate-3.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juniper_Springs_Recreation_Area_Gate-4.jpg

Check out the object marker signs next to them too.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on June 03, 2019, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 12, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
All of the original construction BGS on I-5 from North Seattle through Lynnwood were louvered.  They were square grids with backing that angled down.  Viewed from the air you could see right through them but they had a green background when viewed from the freeway.  They were olive drab and ugly.  I'm not surprised they were all replaced, but now I'm trying to find a picture of them to confirm they existed.

I've had terrible luck finding evidence of the louvered signs I was thinking of, but luckily someone on the "there is NO way that is MUTCD-compliant" Facebook page posted photos of Alabama louvered signs, which are exactly the way I remembered the Washington louvered signs, down to the ugly dark green color.  Just outside Mobile. (https://goo.gl/maps/MiABKCgMkZtinUnn6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on June 04, 2019, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on June 03, 2019, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 12, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
All of the original construction BGS on I-5 from North Seattle through Lynnwood were louvered.  They were square grids with backing that angled down.  Viewed from the air you could see right through them but they had a green background when viewed from the freeway.  They were olive drab and ugly.  I'm not surprised they were all replaced, but now I'm trying to find a picture of them to confirm they existed.

I've had terrible luck finding evidence of the louvered signs I was thinking of, but luckily someone on the "there is NO way that is MUTCD-compliant" Facebook page posted photos of Alabama louvered signs, which are exactly the way I remembered the Washington louvered signs, down to the ugly dark green color.  Just outside Mobile. (https://goo.gl/maps/MiABKCgMkZtinUnn6)

There used to be one in Portsmouth, NH, on I-95 South approaching Exit 5 (I think it was the 1 mile advance sign). I'll try to find a picture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on June 04, 2019, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: DRMan on June 04, 2019, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on June 03, 2019, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 12, 2019, 07:46:11 PM
All of the original construction BGS on I-5 from North Seattle through Lynnwood were louvered.  They were square grids with backing that angled down.  Viewed from the air you could see right through them but they had a green background when viewed from the freeway.  They were olive drab and ugly.  I'm not surprised they were all replaced, but now I'm trying to find a picture of them to confirm they existed.

I've had terrible luck finding evidence of the louvered signs I was thinking of, but luckily someone on the "there is NO way that is MUTCD-compliant" Facebook page posted photos of Alabama louvered signs, which are exactly the way I remembered the Washington louvered signs, down to the ugly dark green color.  Just outside Mobile. (https://goo.gl/maps/MiABKCgMkZtinUnn6)

There used to be one in Portsmouth, NH, on I-95 South approaching Exit 5 (I think it was the 1 mile advance sign). I'll try to find a picture.
There also used to be louvered signs on I-495 near the Port of Wilmington (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7233389,-75.535978,3a,75y,247.76h,96.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9a34jz2UysGEDI7nWeC1dg!2e0!5s20140901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) in Delaware.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: inkyatari on June 04, 2019, 12:25:13 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 28, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
First time I ever saw the "cigarette smuggling" sign was entering Illinois on I-64 from Indiana. My guess is there's an issue with smokes bring brought from Kentucky, which has one of the lowest taxes in the country.


I saw some of these signs coming back into illinois from Missouri.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 04, 2019, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 28, 2019, 02:25:42 PMFirst time I ever saw the "cigarette smuggling" sign was entering Illinois on I-64 from Indiana. My guess is there's an issue with smokes bring brought from Kentucky, which has one of the lowest taxes in the country.

It will be interesting to see if this signing is maintained along Illinois' border with Kentucky now that the latter has a significantly higher cigarette tax (up 50c/pack from 60c/pack to $1.10/pack as of mid-2018).  This is still lower than Illinois', but IMV high enough that Kentucky is no longer an attractive origin point for contraband cigarettes, especially with Missouri a comparable distance away from Illinois' population centroid (near Mazon, just a bit to the SW of Chicago) and still at 17c/pack.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on June 04, 2019, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 30, 2019, 01:00:44 PMIt's invented because the DRPA - the Bridge agency that operates this bridge, decided to give it Exit 354 rather than Exit 2.  This is on I-76 East.   On I-76 West, within NJDOT's jurisdiction, the exit is properly signed as Exit 2.   Many years ago, I called the DRPA about this.  I was told that since the bridge was in both states, they were allowed to continue using PA's exit numbers, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Actually, when that ramp was first assigned an exit number during the late(?) 90s; DRPA designated it as Exit 48, then a continuation of PA's sequential numbers for I-76.  In retrospect, it's too bad that DRPA didn't correct this error (by redesignating it as the more appropriate Exit 2) when PA converted to mile-marker-based interchange numbers 19 years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 06, 2019, 11:03:28 AM
Here is something along the new I-369 in Texarkana.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48013592326_89d33c7d83_k_d.jpg)
Not only two panels for the same exit but the left one gets an NEXT RIGHT in yellow warning!  Then why do you need two panels anyway for the next exit anyhow?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on June 06, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 06, 2019, 11:03:28 AM
Here is something along the new I-369 in Texarkana.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48013592326_89d33c7d83_k_d.jpg)
Not only two panels for the same exit but the left one gets an NEXT RIGHT in yellow warning!  Then why do you need two panels anyway for the next exit anyhow?
Some history, via older GSVs, are in order here.  The TX 93/FM 3527 BGS on the right was added to the gantry circa 2013.

That BGS ultimately replaced a ground-mounted BGS further down that contained all of the info that the above-two BGS'.
Nov. 2012 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4070699,-94.0977005,3a,75y,177.05h,81.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1syo225pKScLlcqHj3VZCmgw!2e0!5s20121101T000000!7i13312!8i6656) of the same area.  One or two of the 2013-vintage GSVs show just the single overhead BGS but no ground-mounted BGS.

As for the reasoning why a larger replacement (for the US 59 South sign) BGS containing the above-info. wasn't simply placed on the gantry is unknown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 06, 2019, 11:42:56 AM
This agricultural inspection station sign on US 129 near Live Oak, FL has faded:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3891204,-82.9389698,3a,75y,23.04h,92.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfxAksORAS9WUC6so_Ytt_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-US (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3891204,-82.9389698,3a,75y,23.04h,92.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfxAksORAS9WUC6so_Ytt_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-US)

The orange lettering there is now as white as the rest of the sign.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 06, 2019, 10:32:26 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 06, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 06, 2019, 11:03:28 AM
Here is something along the new I-369 in Texarkana.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48013592326_89d33c7d83_k_d.jpg)
Not only two panels for the same exit but the left one gets an NEXT RIGHT in yellow warning!  Then why do you need two panels anyway for the next exit anyhow?
Some history, via older GSVs, are in order here.  The TX 93/FM 3527 BGS on the right was added to the gantry circa 2013.

That BGS ultimately replaced a ground-mounted BGS further down that contained all of the info that the above-two BGS'.
Nov. 2012 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4070699,-94.0977005,3a,75y,177.05h,81.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1syo225pKScLlcqHj3VZCmgw!2e0!5s20121101T000000!7i13312!8i6656) of the same area.  One or two of the 2013-vintage GSVs show just the single overhead BGS but no ground-mounted BGS.

As for the reasoning why a larger replacement (for the US 59 South sign) BGS containing the above-info. wasn't simply placed on the gantry is unknown.
Well if its the same person who did not give the order to the sign contractors to add I-369 (or IH 369) shields to all the ramps that apply no wonder why the confusion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on June 07, 2019, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 06, 2019, 11:20:45 AM
TX 93/FM 3527 BGS on the right was added to the gantry circa 2013.

Thus doubling the loading on the structure (cringes).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 07, 2019, 01:14:08 PM
Quote from: roadman on June 07, 2019, 12:58:14 PMThus doubling the loading on the structure (cringes).

TxDOT sign elevation sheets often have outlines marked "Future Sign."  So it is likely this structure was designed for the load it currently carries even if the sign on left was added later.

As for whether that is the case for this structure--dunno.  I'd have to find the control section before I could consult my TxDOT signing sheet collection (which has well over 20,000 sign panel detail and sign elevation sheets at this point).  It likely won't have documentation that is on point if the signs and structure were erected by state forces rather than through contract.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 07, 2019, 02:37:55 PM
TxDOT regularly mounts two signs on cantilever structures, so I'm guessing their standard structure design is built to support that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 07, 2019, 04:42:56 PM
I am leaning against any part of this cantilever sign assembly having been erected by contract.

StreetView showing it faces southbound traffic on I-369/US 59 north of SH 93 interchange (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4070697,-94.0977013,3a,75y,181.94h,90.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRZCRa8zaIFrf9BtVcHPraw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

The relevant state highway control sections (https://www.txdot.gov/apps/statewide_mapping/StatewidePlanningMap.html) in the area are 0218-02, 0218-01, and 2050-03.  Nothing relevant turns up for plan sheets filed under those control sections.  This is all in TxDOT's Atlanta district, numbered 19 (http://onlinemanuals.txdot.gov/txdotmanuals/tri/txdot_district_map_and_code_numbers.htm), so one or both signs could have been erected under a districtwide sign replacement contract with a control section fitting the 0919-XX mask (XX usually 00).  Again, I see no relevant plan sheets.  This leaves two other options:  (1) filed under another control section (likely since the Atlanta district is semi-famous in this community for using oversized independent-mount FM shields as guide sign shields, and none of those plans is filed under an 0919-XX mask--most of them were installed as part of CCSJ 0046-03-031); or (2) I don't have the plans in my TxDOT signing collection because they were not pattern-accurate (happens with TxDOT, though thankfully not often).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on June 08, 2019, 07:39:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/EJMf48hAkAhjzqXH6

It was still readable in this older shot. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 09, 2019, 09:48:42 AM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on June 08, 2019, 07:39:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/EJMf48hAkAhjzqXH6

It was still readable in this older shot. :)
I see that. But that's not so good if the lettering can be washed out like that in four months.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on June 10, 2019, 01:33:53 AM
Hi, might as well provide this.

Interstate 44 WB in Pacific, MO. Taken on June 2nd, 2019.

(https://i.imgur.com/GaFjbwO.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on June 17, 2019, 01:40:44 PM
I've been going through a list of locations today at work and noticed that the "11TH" on this street blade feels off.  Maybe a bit more space between the second "1" and the "T"?  https://goo.gl/maps/Z3FFkuVMWa39CiWv9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on June 18, 2019, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: ipeters61 on June 17, 2019, 01:40:44 PM
I've been going through a list of locations today at work and noticed that the "11TH" on this street blade feels off.  Maybe a bit more space between the second "1" and the "T"?  https://goo.gl/maps/Z3FFkuVMWa39CiWv9
ordinals are normally superscript (e.g. 11TH).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on June 19, 2019, 01:46:09 PM
Look at this sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3617227,-71.1454869,3a,27.9y,342.1h,95.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9L4KnVMQ7acl3yTF91u9xA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
"Right Turn Yield on Green"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on June 20, 2019, 03:01:26 PM
Here's a very interesting "ALL TRAFFIC" sign (former "Reduce Speed"?) around Wilmington DE: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7391271,-75.580771,3a,24.1y,333.82h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOef7lP6ckrmhifo5V42Amg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 20, 2019, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on June 19, 2019, 01:46:09 PM
Look at this sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3617227,-71.1454869,3a,27.9y,342.1h,95.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9L4KnVMQ7acl3yTF91u9xA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
"Right Turn Yield on Green"

Wow. Might as well be a yield sign. Not sure that signal is permissible anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on June 20, 2019, 09:56:57 PM
Yellow Rectangle SLOW sign for road work on county road in KS

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9725469,-97.6121187,3a,25.2y,270.52h,86.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSZRDQh0-0dEt8wzBodMyVA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DSZRDQh0-0dEt8wzBodMyVA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D173.59047%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9725469,-97.6121187,3a,25.2y,270.52h,86.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSZRDQh0-0dEt8wzBodMyVA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DSZRDQh0-0dEt8wzBodMyVA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D173.59047%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on June 21, 2019, 02:06:01 AM
Red street blades at the City of Seattle's Joint Training Facility for police and firefighters.

(https://i.imgur.com/dIxNJpq.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 21, 2019, 10:15:06 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 21, 2019, 02:06:01 AM
Red street blades at the City of Seattle's Joint Training Facility for police and firefighters.

https://i.imgur.com/dIxNJpq.jpg

With complementary fake street names! Nice find.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jovet on June 22, 2019, 11:44:09 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 27, 2019, 01:22:49 PM
In the northern frontier tier states like Nebraska and South Dakota, there are what are called brand inspection areas.  Cattle based in these areas that are sold or transferred must (with certain exceptions) have their brands inspected by state officials.  There have been state line signs to indicate these requirements but not how to fulfill them, so they constitute classic examples of cryptic signing.
I think it's more of a "if you're in the cattle business you know what it's talking about; otherwise pay no mind."  The obvious goal is to prevent selling or buying stolen ("hot") livestock.
I could have sworn we had a "Entering Brand Inspection Area" sign, but can't I find any evidence of one.  I can only find a "Leaving" sign, which is designated as R19-2.
Leaving:  https://goo.gl/maps/PiBYZxcnun5ppXL58  #2: https://goo.gl/maps/wrwQxtTx1gMBFN718
On a separate note, I've always admired the boldness of this standard Nebraska sign (W25-11):  https://agronomy.unl.edu/faculty/Twidwell/redcedar/rangfiressign.png
The page with that image (it isn't mine) indicates these signs have been removed. That's too bad.  https://agronomy.unl.edu/eastern-redcedar-science-literacy-project/science-literacy-action


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 23, 2019, 12:49:06 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 21, 2019, 02:06:01 AM
Red street blades at the City of Seattle's Joint Training Facility for police and firefighters.

(https://i.imgur.com/dIxNJpq.jpg)
I saw one of those in a park in Dade City, Florida where they had a Santa Claus shack for Christmas.

Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 24, 2019, 03:25:49 PM
Never seen this before. Spotted it this morning at the corner of Spadina Road and MacPherson Avenue in Toronto while we were walking from the subway stop to Casa Loma.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/205dfa45a0aba92eadc26afe7e24324f.jpg)


Later in the afternoon I saw this admonition at the corner of Bay and Wellington downtown. The traffic coming the other way gets a green turn arrow before the pedestrian walk signal comes on, so that's probably the reason for the sign. Still not one I'd seen before.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190624/6b043e03ce42db87e5ab0ede7766315e.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on June 25, 2019, 12:36:22 AM
Neon blankout sign, at the west end of the I-90 transit lanes in Seattle, 2014.  The ramp used to be reversible, but Metro wanted all-day access to the Rainier Avenue Freeway Station, and it became two-way transit only.  You can barely see neon elements for "BUS CARPOOL" that used to light up green when it was open as a reversible lane.  The sign and ramp has been and is being removed to convert the lanes to light rail use, and blankout signs continue to be made only in conventional LEDs.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48124508802_ebd2ef0514_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjAFQo)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on June 25, 2019, 04:00:40 PM
I've never seen this type of arrow before.  This is at the WB SR-408 ramp onto EB I-4 in downtown Orlando.

(https://i.imgur.com/2dmzhuF.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 26, 2019, 02:33:52 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/GMv7U3L9yHgmqBxQ9
NYSTA signs NY 17 with a directional header, but does not for NY 59.   Yes, I know NJ 17 south departs from another interchange nearby (the same road) so this is to avoid confusion for motorists as its intended for all routes in this normally to be without directions where only one direction heads away from the signed ramp as it really is here too.  However, it still looks interesting here to see it signed this way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 29, 2019, 01:11:54 PM
The city of Des Moines recently completed a project on E McKinley Ave near SE 14th St. At each end of the redone roadway were one of these signs:

(https://i.imgur.com/3bUpo0H.jpg)

What is it about the new pavement that requires less salt? Also seems a little odd that they're posting signs about road salt, when it's nearly July. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 29, 2019, 04:11:34 PM
Speed limit 25 not 35: https://www.wbay.com/video?vid=511986612
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 29, 2019, 09:24:54 PM
On I-390 north at exit 20B for I-490 west, an overhead speed advisory warning sign was installed.
http://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=i390&state=NY&file=102_0132.JPG
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 29, 2019, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 29, 2019, 01:11:54 PM
The city of Des Moines recently completed a project on E McKinley Ave near SE 14th St. At each end of the redone roadway were one of these signs:

(https://i.imgur.com/3bUpo0H.jpg)

What is it about the new pavement that requires less salt? Also seems a little odd that they're posting signs about road salt, when it's nearly July. :)

I think it's not that it requires less salt but rather the hope to reduce corrosion and failure of the concrete until it's had more time (I'm talking a few years) to continue curing and gaining strength.  That sign could be up for a few years, so might as well post it now as part of the project.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on June 29, 2019, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 29, 2019, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 29, 2019, 01:11:54 PM
What is it about the new pavement that requires less salt? Also seems a little odd that they're posting signs about road salt, when it's nearly July. :)
I think it's not that it requires less salt but rather the hope to reduce corrosion and failure of the concrete until it's had more time (I'm talking a few years) to continue curing and gaining strength.  That sign could be up for a few years, so might as well post it now as part of the project.

The road surface is asphalt, though. Unless maybe there's concrete underneath, or maybe they're concerned about the culverts over the creek? (They're what's behind the fence there.)

That explanation makes sense, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on June 29, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Today I decided to take DE-16 to the beach and found this interesting "Post Office" sign in Ellendale (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8069855,-75.4259818,3a,15y,146.14h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFaRlfbEepTBaJcFJbwiiNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on June 30, 2019, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 21, 2019, 10:15:06 AM
Quote from: Bruce on June 21, 2019, 02:06:01 AM
Red street blades at the City of Seattle's Joint Training Facility for police and firefighters.

https://i.imgur.com/dIxNJpq.jpg

With complementary fake street names! Nice find.

I know one of those names ain't fake....my last name is on one of those blades.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on July 01, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on June 29, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Today I decided to take DE-16 to the beach and found this interesting "Post Office" sign in Ellendale (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8069855,-75.4259818,3a,15y,146.14h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFaRlfbEepTBaJcFJbwiiNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

I thought the sign underneath was more interesting.   I have seen similar signs in other areas, but usually it will say something like, "NO PARKING IF SNOWFALL EXCEEDS TWO INCHES"   -- I've never seen one restricting parking due to the duration of snowfall.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 01, 2019, 02:40:35 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on July 01, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on June 29, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Today I decided to take DE-16 to the beach and found this interesting "Post Office" sign in Ellendale (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8069855,-75.4259818,3a,15y,146.14h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFaRlfbEepTBaJcFJbwiiNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

I thought the sign underneath was more interesting.   I have seen similar signs in other areas, but usually it will say something like, "NO PARKING IF SNOWFALL EXCEEDS TWO INCHES"   -- I've never seen one restricting parking due to the duration of snowfall.
Yeah, we have signs like that all over Dover. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1633418,-75.5263843,3a,15.4y,14.83h,85.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOxg2AlAdzCBqypAy2SfgKg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)  I actually didn't take notice of the ones in Ellendale, so I'm not quite sure if it's something universal to the central/southern part of the state (I can't remember what Newark's policy was when I lived there).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 01, 2019, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on July 01, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on June 29, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Today I decided to take DE-16 to the beach and found this interesting "Post Office" sign in Ellendale (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8069855,-75.4259818,3a,15y,146.14h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFaRlfbEepTBaJcFJbwiiNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

I thought the sign underneath was more interesting.   I have seen similar signs in other areas, but usually it will say something like, "NO PARKING IF SNOWFALL EXCEEDS TWO INCHES"   -- I've never seen one restricting parking due to the duration of snowfall.
And the sign should be red on white for a parking restriction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 02, 2019, 10:18:39 AM
Yesterday afternoon my wife and I walked past the school I attended from fourth through sixth grades. In the midst of a bunch of standard-issue signs about parking restrictions, we found this rather unusual one. I kept picturing the scene in Animal House where they hit golf balls off the hill towards Niedermayer.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190702/44b5efc655aec7406e83814c899883c4.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 02, 2019, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 02, 2019, 10:18:39 AM
Yesterday afternoon my wife and I walked past the school I attended from fourth through sixth grades. In the midst of a bunch of standard-issue signs about parking restrictions, we found this rather unusual one. I kept picturing the scene in Animal House where they hit golf balls off the hill towards Niedermayer.


They'd only put up a sign if this is an actual problem.  They probably had people golfing there.  Authorities told them to stop, with the response being "it's not against the law."  And now we have a sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 03, 2019, 11:36:10 AM
^^^

Probably so. That sign is at the top of a small hill. It's a bigger hill than it looks in the picture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on July 03, 2019, 02:32:11 PM
^
Reminds me of this "No Fishing From Bridge" sign on the US-17 Bypass around Edenton, NC - the bypass being a 70 mph limited-access freeway.

Someone probably was fishing from the bridge, said there's no rules against, and now there's a sign v

(https://i.ibb.co/jwhy0r2/No-Fishing-From-Bridge.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 03, 2019, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2019, 02:32:11 PM
^
Reminds me of this "No Fishing From Bridge" sign on the US-17 Bypass around Edenton, NC - the bypass being a 70 mph limited-access freeway.

Someone probably was fishing from the bridge, said there's no rules against, and now there's a sign v

(https://i.ibb.co/jwhy0r2/No-Fishing-From-Bridge.png)
We've got a few of those in Delaware.  I can think of one on US-13 at Drawyer Creek (Odessa (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4722318,-75.6509504,3a,15y,45.26h,80.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-LVS0tO_F0XSzZhTiVi2RA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (55 MPH highway with generally 65 MPH traffic)), US-13 at Duck Creek (Smyrna (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3086163,-75.6089784,3a,15y,363.32h,87.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAEtqjqdUAtQG1lz4-X7tVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (similar story, probably slightly slower traffic since it's still in the town)), and DE-1 at the Murderkill River (Frederica (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0121463,-75.459521,3a,15y,196.87h,84.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRkQY43gh-xut0Bu0x_jcuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (55 MPH highway with crossovers but only one light between Dover and Lewes (40 miles) with generally 70 MPH traffic)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on July 03, 2019, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 03, 2019, 04:09:31 PM
We've got a few of those in Delaware.  I can think of one on US-13 at Drawyer Creek (Odessa (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4722318,-75.6509504,3a,15y,45.26h,80.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-LVS0tO_F0XSzZhTiVi2RA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (55 MPH highway with generally 65 MPH traffic)), US-13 at Duck Creek (Smyrna (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3086163,-75.6089784,3a,15y,363.32h,87.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAEtqjqdUAtQG1lz4-X7tVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (similar story, probably slightly slower traffic since it's still in the town)), and DE-1 at the Murderkill River (Frederica (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0121463,-75.459521,3a,15y,196.87h,84.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRkQY43gh-xut0Bu0x_jcuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (55 MPH highway with crossovers but only one light between Dover and Lewes (40 miles) with generally 70 MPH traffic)).
I'd say those are more reasonable since they are not freeways, but the point still stands.

The NC example was on a full 70 mph limited-access freeway, with generally 70-80 mph traffic. I wonder if any other freeway bypasses have that... probably if so, it'd be in North Carolina! I'll have to do some street view hunting.

Interestingly, on that same freeway bypass, it crosses the much larger Chowan River, still at 70 mph, and there's no signage. https://www.google.com/maps/@36.042224,-76.7066918,3a,75y,64.35h,77.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh0CJnoW_YbJkY_PUxw1sIw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 04, 2019, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2019, 02:32:11 PM
^
Reminds me of this "No Fishing From Bridge" sign on the US-17 Bypass around Edenton, NC - the bypass being a 70 mph limited-access freeway.

Someone probably was fishing from the bridge, said there's no rules against, and now there's a sign v


Something similar, on Government Island, traversed by I-205 in Oregon. They have to put up a sign to keep pedestrians from crossing four lanes of freeway traffic.  Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/uRWUcBpY4tijTPkL9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 04, 2019, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 04, 2019, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2019, 02:32:11 PM
^
Reminds me of this "No Fishing From Bridge" sign on the US-17 Bypass around Edenton, NC - the bypass being a 70 mph limited-access freeway.

Someone probably was fishing from the bridge, said there's no rules against, and now there's a sign v


Something similar, on Government Island, traversed by I-205 in Oregon. They have to put up a sign to keep pedestrians from crossing four lanes of freeway traffic.  Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/uRWUcBpY4tijTPkL9)

This was a famous sign at a Border Inspection Facility in California that existed about 50 miles north of the border.

https://images.app.goo.gl/CFX3vw7oEBtva1836

Yes, people ran out of cars onto a freeway to escape the border patrol, but they had to warn others driving to the hazard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 07, 2019, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 01, 2019, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on July 01, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on June 29, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Today I decided to take DE-16 to the beach and found this interesting "Post Office" sign in Ellendale (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8069855,-75.4259818,3a,15y,146.14h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFaRlfbEepTBaJcFJbwiiNA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

I thought the sign underneath was more interesting.   I have seen similar signs in other areas, but usually it will say something like, "NO PARKING IF SNOWFALL EXCEEDS TWO INCHES"   -- I've never seen one restricting parking due to the duration of snowfall.
And the sign should be red on white for a parking restriction.
I've seen plenty of Snow Emergency Route signs, but none that have restrictions for parking that specific. The ones I've seen myself have either been red on white as Big John describes but also partially white on red, or have been black on white. But some that I've seen online have also been blue with white snowflake logos on them.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carle_Place_LIRR_Station;_n22_Bus_Stop.jpg


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/omaha.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/18/5181cff3-d48a-5b1a-b57b-88febabfde71/5c7152677e726.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C1215


https://www.compliancesigns.com/PKE-20285.shtml?ref=champ

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7571338628_3ca79f8374_n.jpg


Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 04, 2019, 11:11:39 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on July 03, 2019, 02:32:11 PM
^
Reminds me of this "No Fishing From Bridge" sign on the US-17 Bypass around Edenton, NC - the bypass being a 70 mph limited-access freeway.

Someone probably was fishing from the bridge, said there's no rules against, and now there's a sign v


Something similar, on Government Island, traversed by I-205 in Oregon. They have to put up a sign to keep pedestrians from crossing four lanes of freeway traffic.  Google Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/uRWUcBpY4tijTPkL9)
Really? Because to me it seems about as useless as a sign saying "No Walking your Pet Iguana." I can picture idiots trying to cross lanes of a freeway, but fishing from a bridge on one?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 07, 2019, 03:03:29 PM
An odd "2000#" weight limit sign (creative use of #?) I saw on a bike ride down the St. Jones Greenway trail (south of Dover) yesterday morning:

(https://i.ibb.co/hgvgsqg/IMG-20190706-091921.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tw5wcCw)

To offset that, the night before, I finally decided to take a picture of this older US-13 shield in the Rodney Village neighborhood on the south side of Dover the night before that photo was taken:

(https://i.ibb.co/b5tD71Y/IMG-20190705-191716.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0y5vQq1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jovet on July 07, 2019, 10:01:09 PM
(https://jovet.net/files/images/Sign_ba5cfd43281f437c7f2ce2b29447af11.png)
This is my re-creation of this sign down the street from me.  I've never seen or heard of any similar sign anywhere else.  I suspect it's not obvious to most people what it means, and I had to stare at it a bit at first too, but showing its context in Google Street View should make its meaning more obvious.  https://goo.gl/maps/N1cc1CYqfiADp6NY8     But, this lane situation is hardly unique in the city, so I'm curious why a sign was deemed needed to be designed and installed here.  Whether this is "good" or "bad" or "ugly" I am not sure, but it is definitely unusual and interesting.  I've tried to come up with a succinct textual message equivalent and haven't had a good one yet.  What do you think of this sign?  Anyone seen anything similar anywhere else?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 08, 2019, 02:41:17 PM
Is this another attempt by the PC Police to eliminate sites related to the Confederate States of America, such as deleting former sections of the Old Dixie Highway?

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4816345,-81.271074,3a,75y,84.98h,85.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spZPELugmXaroeGh7rTEnYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4816345,-81.271074,3a,75y,84.98h,85.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spZPELugmXaroeGh7rTEnYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 08, 2019, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 08, 2019, 02:41:17 PM
Is this another attempt by the PC Police to eliminate sites related to the Confederate States of America, such as deleting former sections of the Old Dixie Highway?

The PC Police don't have jurisdiction over signage. Their mandate is to take as many Macintoshes off the streets as possible.

You're thinking of the Department of Transportation. Easy mistake to make.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on July 09, 2019, 05:10:50 AM
Since when has Dixie become part of the Confederacy?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 09, 2019, 06:03:17 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 08, 2019, 02:41:17 PM
Is this another attempt by the PC Police to eliminate sites related to the Confederate States of America, such as deleting former sections of the Old Dixie Highway?

(link) (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4816345,-81.271074,3a,75y,84.98h,85.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spZPELugmXaroeGh7rTEnYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)


I think CR 13 is Old Dixie Highway and "Forgotten Road" is technically Even Older Dixie Highway, since the original brick surface is still visible.

It was probably renamed long before your imagination kicked in; whenever CR 13 was joined up with US 1 for a smoother and safer transition between the roads and the Florida East Coast line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 09, 2019, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: Jovet on July 07, 2019, 10:01:09 PM
(https://jovet.net/files/images/Sign_ba5cfd43281f437c7f2ce2b29447af11.png)
This is my re-creation of this sign down the street from me.  I've never seen or heard of any similar sign anywhere else.  I suspect it's not obvious to most people what it means, and I had to stare at it a bit at first too, but showing its context in Google Street View should make its meaning more obvious.  https://goo.gl/maps/N1cc1CYqfiADp6NY8     But, this lane situation is hardly unique in the city, so I'm curious why a sign was deemed needed to be designed and installed here.  Whether this is "good" or "bad" or "ugly" I am not sure, but it is definitely unusual and interesting.  I've tried to come up with a succinct textual message equivalent and haven't had a good one yet.  What do you think of this sign?  Anyone seen anything similar anywhere else?

Never seen anything like this before.

Only thing I can think of to explain it is that you've got a two-way left turn lane for a little bit before this point, but the marking suddenly changes at this intersection right before the signal. Perhaps for the instance where there could be backups in the signalized left turn, this indicates that you might encounter opposing traffic trying to turn left? Not sure that it's actually needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 09, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Quote from: Jovet on July 07, 2019, 10:01:09 PMThis is my re-creation of this sign down the street from me.  I've never seen or heard of any similar sign anywhere else.  I suspect it's not obvious to most people what it means, and I had to stare at it a bit at first too, but showing its context in Google Street View should make its meaning more obvious.  https://goo.gl/maps/N1cc1CYqfiADp6NY8     But, this lane situation is hardly unique in the city, so I'm curious why a sign was deemed needed to be designed and installed here.  Whether this is "good" or "bad" or "ugly" I am not sure, but it is definitely unusual and interesting.  I've tried to come up with a succinct textual message equivalent and haven't had a good one yet.  What do you think of this sign?  Anyone seen anything similar anywhere else?

This is the only example I have seen, though I suspect pretty much every US city of any size has multiple instances of staggered intersections where both side roads attract heavy left-turning volumes off the main road and opposite-facing left turners come into conflict with each other, either along a TWLTL or an opposed pair of left-turn-only lanes (as shown on the sign).

Frankly, I don't think this sign is likely to be a good engineering countermeasure and may indeed be one of the poster children for controlled experimentation.  The symbol design is not simple and probably would not survive tachistoscope testing.  If the owning agency (City of Omaha, presumably) doesn't wish to address the conflict by installing a raised island (which can cause queuing issues at peak periods), I think it would be appropriate to consider converting the less important side road (Nicholas Street) into a cul-de-sac, as the subdivision it feeds has other outlets.

As for why this sign was installed in lieu of other and arguably better solutions:  (1) putting up a sign is cheaper than cutting into concrete, and (2) closing a street is a good way to make residents of the subdivision really, really angry.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 09, 2019, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 09, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Frankly, I don't think this sign is likely to be a good engineering countermeasure and may indeed be one of the poster children for controlled experimentation.  The symbol design is not simple and probably would not survive tachistoscope testing.  If the owning agency (City of Omaha, presumably) doesn't wish to address the conflict by installing a raised island (which can cause queuing issues at peak periods), I think it would be appropriate to consider converting the less important side road (Nicholas Street) into a cul-de-sac, as the subdivision it feeds has other outlets.

Perhaps they could totally eliminate the dedicated left turn lane for traffic towards Nicholas St? Have a break in the line to allow traffic to enter the left turn lane for Miracle Hills Dr, but then have a regular TWLTL south of that point. There might be some times of the day when left-turning traffic backs up into the TWLTL-portion of the roadway, forcing northbound traffic to turn left from the left through lane, but I hardly think this would be a major issue.

Worst-case scenario, just install a raised curb with flexi-posts (https://goo.gl/maps/yU5zJMqeQ3CRWrtH8) along the double-yellow line. Traffic could enter Nicholas Street from southbound only, but could exit Nicholas St in either direction (using the TWLTL to merge into northbound traffic, local laws permitting).

Side-note: can anyone confirm for me that the double turns off Miracle Hills Dr have to yield to pedestrians? They use green orbs, but I suppose they could stay red during the WALK phase.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 09, 2019, 07:20:31 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 09, 2019, 06:03:17 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 08, 2019, 02:41:17 PM
Is this another attempt by the PC Police to eliminate sites related to the Confederate States of America, such as deleting former sections of the Old Dixie Highway?

(link) (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4816345,-81.271074,3a,75y,84.98h,85.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spZPELugmXaroeGh7rTEnYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)


I think CR 13 is Old Dixie Highway and "Forgotten Road" is technically Even Older Dixie Highway, since the original brick surface is still visible.

It was probably renamed long before your imagination kicked in; whenever CR 13 was joined up with US 1 for a smoother and safer transition between the roads and the Florida East Coast line.
It appears the attempt to realign what is today CR 13 was being started as far back as 1957.

https://historicaerials.com/?layer=map&zoom=12&lat=29.4675&lon=-81.256944

The thing is, Google still has the name "North Old Dixie Highway," even though the sign says "Forgotten Lane," which made me think the street name on the sign was a little more recent, and perhaps a result of some public pressure. If I'm wrong, then so be it.

I saw an couple of older versions of the intersection on GSV, but I couldn't zoom in on the sign.




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 11, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2019, 05:46:00 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 09, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Frankly, I don't think this sign is likely to be a good engineering countermeasure and may indeed be one of the poster children for controlled experimentation.  The symbol design is not simple and probably would not survive tachistoscope testing.  If the owning agency (City of Omaha, presumably) doesn't wish to address the conflict by installing a raised island (which can cause queuing issues at peak periods), I think it would be appropriate to consider converting the less important side road (Nicholas Street) into a cul-de-sac, as the subdivision it feeds has other outlets.

Perhaps they could totally eliminate the dedicated left turn lane for traffic towards Nicholas St? Have a break in the line to allow traffic to enter the left turn lane for Miracle Hills Dr, but then have a regular TWLTL south of that point. There might be some times of the day when left-turning traffic backs up into the TWLTL-portion of the roadway, forcing northbound traffic to turn left from the left through lane, but I hardly think this would be a major issue.

Worst-case scenario, just install a raised curb with flexi-posts (https://goo.gl/maps/yU5zJMqeQ3CRWrtH8) along the double-yellow line. Traffic could enter Nicholas Street from southbound only, but could exit Nicholas St in either direction (using the TWLTL to merge into northbound traffic, local laws permitting).

Side-note: can anyone confirm for me that the double turns off Miracle Hills Dr have to yield to pedestrians? They use green orbs, but I suppose they could stay red during the WALK phase.

I beleive the sign is merely left as a warning.  If traffic on 120th wants to make a left on Miracle Hills, they should be aware that they should not drive in the TWLTL to reach the left turn lane.  There could be traffic that wants to make the opposing turn on Nichols.  At the same time, there may be good reasons why putting in posts or an island is not appropriate.

If I had to caption the sign, I would suggest "OPPOSING LEFT TURNS".  The picture itself is very descriptive of the situation and definitely unique.

A somewhat analagous situation happens at Sunset/Beverly Glen in Los Angeles.  Due to BG being broken up, there is heavy left turns.  But the left to northbound BG is heaviest in afternoon rush hour and the left to southbound BG is heavies in morning rush hour.  I can tell you from experience driving by this intersection regularly 20 years ago that local custom is during busy times to use the TWTL as a staging area for the left turners.  This provides more space for turning cars when needed and mitigates any backup on the thru traffic on Sunset.  As can be seen in the GSV link, the postal truck and the SUV are using the TWTL as staging for the upcoming left turn.  The thru lanes are clear.  IF there were an island here, the staging left turn cars would be blocking the left lane.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0814833,-118.435026,3a,37.5y,17.68h,81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s93cWuSiMKHIyQxhiytPhcw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-US


As far as Jake's qn about the pedestrians, I have never been to this intersection, but it is interesting that the cross-walks are not marked.  I don't remember seeing before a signalized intersection, with pedestrian signals, that doesn't mark out the crosswalks.  I also note that there is an electronic no right turn sign.  Presumably this is lit while pedestrians are crossing, but I don't know if it will mean the peds crossing Miracle Hills or the peds crossing 120th.  (Sort of a no turn on red, but only while peds are present, provided they push the button.)  There is nothing similar on the left side though.  I would imagine that peds crossing will likely be at the same time as the green light, which is why there are no left arrows present, and right arrows are in doghouse form [presumably right arrow is lit while corresponding left arrow from 120th to Miracle Hills is lit].
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 14, 2019, 05:18:41 PM
Posting signs modified due to construction is almost cheating. Nevertheless, here's one with the normal right arrow covered with a custom u-turn arrow made from what appears to be an advance left arrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/biiCfUz.jpg)

This is on US-63 at MN-16 west of Spring Valley.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on July 15, 2019, 08:22:48 AM
Came across this lovely specimen outside the Dunkin in Westmont, NJ...

(https://photos.app.goo.gl/yT7NZENzJyTNsqCx8)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/yT7NZENzJyTNsqCx8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 15, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
From NYSDOT Main Office:

(https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/48292083191_ee3f64edd4_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on July 16, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
US 59 near Atchison, Kansas. Don't let anyone tell you there's nothing to see in Kansas.

(https://i.imgur.com/qO2zr3G.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on July 16, 2019, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 16, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
US 59 near Atchison, Kansas. Don't let anyone tell you there's nothing to see in Kansas.

(https://i.imgur.com/qO2zr3G.jpg)

I mean, New York and Chicago have pizza tourism.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on July 16, 2019, 11:18:15 PM
I was driving westbound on the Arterial in Auburn today, and I noticed that the left-side supplemental pedestrian crossing sign seen here (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9332262,-76.5715166,3a,75y,239.02h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-OUPO7pnc5wwq-derrdxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is mirrored from the standard sign to show the figure pointing toward the road.  I've never noticed this before, and kept an eye out for other signs like this.  The left-side sign at the far side crosswalk (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9326816,-76.5729324,3a,75y,239.02h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9rtJMahE0w9ETADQw71kWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is mirrored as well.  In the other direction, I saw at least one set of signs with a mirrored left-side school sign, but they're too new and aren't in Street View.

I thought I'd look in Weedsport on NY 34 where I know there's a set of pedestrian crossing signs with left-side supplemental signs, and they're mirrored too (northbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.050276,-76.5621171,3a,75y,35.92h,86.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBV26oJizh-0hEqOYtymgww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0505183,-76.56194,3a,75y,206.52h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ7CHsiJdFUHEeBqwynC-Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on July 17, 2019, 08:46:21 AM
Posted this in the Road Sign Uno thread, but thought it ought to go on display here. Tennessee used to have some very funky looking US route markers, like this one for US 70N. I've seen them in this area of the state, and back east near Pigeon Forge as well. I suspect they've all been replaced by now.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmillenniumhwy.net%2Fsigns%2526sights%2Ftn%2Fwilson%2FUS70Nadvance-US70-TN141.jpg&hash=b34311bcbe03197b03b35bd7b6ff3b743f1b0c01)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 17, 2019, 04:20:02 PM
Quote from: Michael on July 16, 2019, 11:18:15 PM
I was driving westbound on the Arterial in Auburn today, and I noticed that the left-side supplemental pedestrian crossing sign seen here (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9332262,-76.5715166,3a,75y,239.02h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-OUPO7pnc5wwq-derrdxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is mirrored from the standard sign to show the figure pointing toward the road.  I've never noticed this before, and kept an eye out for other signs like this.  The left-side sign at the far side crosswalk (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9326816,-76.5729324,3a,75y,239.02h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9rtJMahE0w9ETADQw71kWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is mirrored as well.  In the other direction, I saw at least one set of signs with a mirrored left-side school sign, but they're too new and aren't in Street View.

I thought I'd look in Weedsport on NY 34 where I know there's a set of pedestrian crossing signs with left-side supplemental signs, and they're mirrored too (northbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.050276,-76.5621171,3a,75y,35.92h,86.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBV26oJizh-0hEqOYtymgww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0505183,-76.56194,3a,75y,206.52h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ7CHsiJdFUHEeBqwynC-Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)).
This isn't so unique, or at least not for me. Many areas in Nevada do this almost every time a ped crossing sign is posted on the left side of the road out in the median. For Reno-Sparks area, and increasingly elsewhere, a reversed ped crossing symbol is posted at virtually every intersection at which an RRFB has been installed.

The national MUTCD allows this as a blanket option for symbol signs in 2A.06 Design of Signs:
Quote
09 All symbols shall be unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of, the adopted symbol signs, all of which are shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book. Symbols and colors shall not be modified unless otherwise provided in this Manual. All symbols and colors for signs not shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book shall follow the procedures for experimentation and change described in Section 1A.10.

Option:
10 Although the standard design of symbol signs cannot be modified, the orientation of the symbol may be changed to better reflect the direction of travel, if appropriate.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 17, 2019, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 17, 2019, 04:20:02 PM
Quote from: Michael on July 16, 2019, 11:18:15 PM
I was driving westbound on the Arterial in Auburn today, and I noticed that the left-side supplemental pedestrian crossing sign seen here (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9332262,-76.5715166,3a,75y,239.02h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-OUPO7pnc5wwq-derrdxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is mirrored from the standard sign to show the figure pointing toward the road.  I've never noticed this before, and kept an eye out for other signs like this.  The left-side sign at the far side crosswalk (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9326816,-76.5729324,3a,75y,239.02h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9rtJMahE0w9ETADQw71kWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is mirrored as well.  In the other direction, I saw at least one set of signs with a mirrored left-side school sign, but they're too new and aren't in Street View.

I thought I'd look in Weedsport on NY 34 where I know there's a set of pedestrian crossing signs with left-side supplemental signs, and they're mirrored too (northbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.050276,-76.5621171,3a,75y,35.92h,86.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBV26oJizh-0hEqOYtymgww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0505183,-76.56194,3a,75y,206.52h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ7CHsiJdFUHEeBqwynC-Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)).
This isn't so unique, or at least not for me. Many areas in Nevada do this almost every time a ped crossing sign is posted on the left side of the road out in the median. For Reno-Sparks area, and increasingly elsewhere, a reversed ped crossing symbol is posted at virtually every intersection at which an RRFB has been installed.

I will have to echo Michael's sentiments. Most ped crossing signs in my area of WA face the same direction. There are some mirrored examples, but they're not too common from what I've seen. British Columbia, on the other hand, does use mirrored crossing signs (https://goo.gl/maps/5ovdFDMjGKF8WmZG9). There, it seems to be the norm.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 17, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
Not sure I've seen this before. This left turn in Seattle (https://goo.gl/maps/GsukqYSyYBhxeNeE7), which is a simple yield, has a "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD" sign. My understanding was that these, at least in practice, were reserved for left turns at traffic lights. There used to be a yield sign in the median (with an accompanying "THIS LANE" plaque), but it was inexplicably removed a couple years ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/0CLnC8c.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 17, 2019, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 16, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
US 59 near Atchison, Kansas. Don't let anyone tell you there's nothing to see in Kansas.

(https://i.imgur.com/qO2zr3G.jpg)

I grew up in a small Kansas town, where the only chain restaurant was a Pizza Hut.  Even still, I'm not sure I could call it a tourist activity.

(Side note:  Pizza restaurants are usually busy places on a Friday night.  But, in my hometown, the Pizza Hut closed early on Fridays in the Fall..  Why?  Because practically the entire town was at the high school football game, so Pizza Hut got hardly any business then.  They'd re-open after the game was over.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 17, 2019, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 17, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
Not sure I've seen this before. This left turn in Seattle (https://goo.gl/maps/GsukqYSyYBhxeNeE7), which is a simple yield, has a "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD" sign. My understanding was that these, at least in practice, were reserved for left turns at traffic lights. There used to be a yield sign in the median (with an accompanying "THIS LANE" plaque), but it was inexplicably removed a couple years ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/0CLnC8c.png)

Did the left turn here formally have the right of way but then changed? That's the only thing I can think of.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jovet on July 17, 2019, 11:15:02 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 09, 2019, 10:56:55 AM
Never seen anything like this before.
Only thing I can think of to explain it is that you've got a two-way left turn lane for a little bit before this point, but the marking suddenly changes at this intersection right before the signal. Perhaps for the instance where there could be backups in the signalized left turn, this indicates that you might encounter opposing traffic trying to turn left? Not sure that it's actually needed.
Yeah, I think it's more of a warning about the traffic/direction conflict in the left turn lane with the short turn lanes.  Since there is a sign in only one direction, I think it's a specific warning for traffic turning left onto Miracle Hills Drive to not cross the center line into and blocking the other left turn lane.
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 09, 2019, 11:18:55 AM
Frankly, I don't think this sign is likely to be a good engineering countermeasure and may indeed be one of the poster children for controlled experimentation.  The symbol design is not simple and probably would not survive tachistoscope testing.  If the owning agency (City of Omaha, presumably) doesn't wish to address the conflict by installing a raised island (which can cause queuing issues at peak periods), I think it would be appropriate to consider converting the less important side road (Nicholas Street) into a cul-de-sac, as the subdivision it feeds has other outlets.
As a resident, it makes me curious why the (warning) sign was warranted in the first place.  I'm curious what the problem it's warning about actually is, and how common it is.  I am skeptical that there is a "huge problem" that warrants some of the costly measures discussed here.  I don't think the symbol is bad, it just may not be obvious to most people what it is or represents.  Once you know, it should be easy to recognize–the thick double curved line representing the center line is pretty distinctive.
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2019, 05:46:00 PM
Side-note: can anyone confirm for me that the double turns off Miracle Hills Dr have to yield to pedestrians? They use green orbs, but I suppose they could stay red during the WALK phase.
I could find out.  If I remember correctly, there is no pedestrian phase across 120th street without pedestrian actuation.  I don't see pedestrians ever in this area, so I can't say what happens for sure without studying it some more.  By law turning traffic always has to yield to pedestrians, so I suspect any pedestrian phase coincides with green balls to turn right.  However, there is a NO RIGHT TURN blank-out sign which forbids all right turns, even when Red.  Visibility of traffic coming up the hill from the left is poor, so turns are only permitted when the light is Green.  That is not the case at a few other similar intersections in the city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jovet on July 17, 2019, 11:18:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 17, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
Not sure I've seen this before. This left turn in Seattle (https://goo.gl/maps/GsukqYSyYBhxeNeE7), which is a simple yield, has a "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD" sign. My understanding was that these, at least in practice, were reserved for left turns at traffic lights. There used to be a yield sign in the median (with an accompanying "THIS LANE" plaque), but it was inexplicably removed a couple years ago.
That looks to me like a reminder that all left turns must yield to oncoming traffic because it does not stop.  Should be common sense, but accident history there might indicate otherwise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 18, 2019, 02:02:50 AM
Quote from: plain on July 17, 2019, 10:42:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 17, 2019, 05:10:29 PM
Not sure I've seen this before. This left turn in Seattle (https://goo.gl/maps/GsukqYSyYBhxeNeE7), which is a simple yield, has a "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD" sign. My understanding was that these, at least in practice, were reserved for left turns at traffic lights. There used to be a yield sign in the median (with an accompanying "THIS LANE" plaque), but it was inexplicably removed a couple years ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/0CLnC8c.png)

Did the left turn here formally have the right of way but then changed? That's the only thing I can think of.

Not as far back as I can tell. GSV shows the left turn as yielding back through 2007 (https://goo.gl/maps/aW1J7JJv12r4gxsVA), with that same sign still there (though on the left, beneath the "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign).

Quote from: Jovet on July 17, 2019, 11:18:45 PM
That looks to me like a reminder that all left turns must yield to oncoming traffic because it does not stop.  Should be common sense, but accident history there might indicate otherwise.

The sign may be the result of the many frontage roads in the area. (The off-ramp immediately to the south (https://goo.gl/maps/h2546D4KzfHi1fMJ6)) has priority over the frontage road (5th Ave NE), so my assumption was that people may mistake the on-ramp as also having priority over the frontage road. Also, this is the only frontage road along this stretch of I-5 that is two-way, so people may not be realizing that 5th does have cars coming towards them that do have priority.

All of these things should be obvious, but sometimes drivers do amaze me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 18, 2019, 02:10:34 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 11, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 09, 2019, 05:46:00 PM
Side-note: can anyone confirm for me that the double turns off Miracle Hills Dr have to yield to pedestrians? They use green orbs, but I suppose they could stay red during the WALK phase.

As far as Jake's qn about the pedestrians, I have never been to this intersection, but it is interesting that the cross-walks are not marked.  I don't remember seeing before a signalized intersection, with pedestrian signals, that doesn't mark out the crosswalks.  I also note that there is an electronic no right turn sign.  Presumably this is lit while pedestrians are crossing, but I don't know if it will mean the peds crossing Miracle Hills or the peds crossing 120th.  (Sort of a no turn on red, but only while peds are present, provided they push the button.)  There is nothing similar on the left side though.  I would imagine that peds crossing will likely be at the same time as the green light, which is why there are no left arrows present, and right arrows are in doghouse form [presumably right arrow is lit while corresponding left arrow from 120th to Miracle Hills is lit].
Quote from: Jovet on July 17, 2019, 11:15:02 PM
I could find out.  If I remember correctly, there is no pedestrian phase across 120th street without pedestrian actuation.  I don't see pedestrians ever in this area, so I can't say what happens for sure without studying it some more.  By law turning traffic always has to yield to pedestrians, so I suspect any pedestrian phase coincides with green balls to turn right.  However, there is a NO RIGHT TURN blank-out sign which forbids all right turns, even when Red.  Visibility of traffic coming up the hill from the left is poor, so turns are only permitted when the light is Green.  That is not the case at a few other similar intersections in the city.

Thanks, guys. I got the feeling based on the lack of marked crosswalks that pedestrians probably weren't walking through here in large numbers, but double-yields to pedestrians (at least for left turns) are relatively uncommon, so I felt I should inquire. Usually in these situations, the crosswalk against the left turn would be eliminated, so props to them for leaving it in. Although I'm thinking that the engineers weren't really considering how pedestrians would interact with the traffic at all (especially with a double-left yield), hence the lack of crosswalk markings; they (perhaps) unintentionally left in that crossing signal when other engineers might have otherwise deleted it when that double left turn got involved.

Funny thing to me, based on your reply Jovet, is that perhaps there has never been a pedestrian who crossed (with a walk sign) against that double left turn. Perhaps traffic does have to yield, but it has yet to happen! No one truly knows what would happen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on July 18, 2019, 12:13:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 17, 2019, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 16, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
US 59 near Atchison, Kansas. Don't let anyone tell you there's nothing to see in Kansas.

(https://i.imgur.com/qO2zr3G.jpg)

I grew up in a small Kansas town, where the only chain restaurant was a Pizza Hut.  Even still, I'm not sure I could call it a tourist activity.

(Side note:  Pizza restaurants are usually busy places on a Friday night.  But, in my hometown, the Pizza Hut closed early on Fridays in the Fall..  Why?  Because practically the entire town was at the high school football game, so Pizza Hut got hardly any business then.  They'd re-open after the game was over.)

Businesses pay to have their names on those signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
I'm still trying to find anything in MUTCD on off-color Type 3 object markers. I've still seen recent versions of black and white ones, along with red and white ones, and non-construction use of orange and white ones.

http://www.trafficsign.us/shs/om/om3.pdf

Woodbine Avenue in Northport, NY has some of the red and white ones, but I can't find it on GSV.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 19, 2019, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
Woodbine Avenue in Northport, NY has some of the red and white ones, but I can't find it on GSV.

I've also seen red and white object markers, but only along one street on Mercer Island (https://goo.gl/maps/QvzTApBeeVao2YYm8), near Seattle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 19, 2019, 11:52:23 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/2KFwjkndqyDPPQ3n8
Downtown Brattleboro with route shields posted on top of a store has to be the most odd I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 20, 2019, 01:29:10 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
I'm still trying to find anything in MUTCD on off-color Type 3 object markers. I've still seen recent versions of black and white ones, along with red and white ones, and non-construction use of orange and white ones.

http://www.trafficsign.us/shs/om/om3.pdf

Woodbine Avenue in Northport, NY has some of the red and white ones, but I can't find it on GSV.
You won't find anything in the MUTCD about Type 3 object markers that aren't black and yellow. Chapter 6 discusses the white and orange ones–referred to there as "vertical panels", in the context of other channelizing devices for temporary traffic control (such as cones, drums, tubular markers and barricades).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on July 20, 2019, 06:47:14 PM
Black and white object markers are an old standard. Kentucky used them years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 21, 2019, 01:13:42 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 20, 2019, 06:47:14 PM
Black and white object markers are an old standard. Kentucky used them years ago.
So did a lot of the country, usually along any shoulder of a road with white stripes. Most of the ones I've seen in recent times have been old ones on concrete bridges and overpasses, but to my surprise even newer ones get those.

The standard used to be that the black and white ones were for the right sides of the roads, and the black and yellow ones were for the left sides of the roads, assuming they were on a divided highway.

Quote from: roadfro on July 20, 2019, 01:29:10 AM
You won't find anything in the MUTCD about Type 3 object markers that aren't black and yellow. Chapter 6 discusses the white and orange ones—referred to there as "vertical panels", in the context of other channelizing devices for temporary traffic control (such as cones, drums, tubular markers and barricades).
Guess that explains the ones on the gate to the Juniper Springs Recreational Area off of FL 40 in Ocala National Forest:


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juniper_Springs_Recreation_Area_Gate-3.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juniper_Springs_Recreation_Area_Gate-4.jpg

And here I was thinking the orange and white was to contrast the brown and white Road Closed signs and make them more visible.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)

These seem to be becoming more and more common in certain states. I like them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 22, 2019, 01:49:08 PM
I saw a horizontally-mounted one in Laredo, Texas a few months back:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48100392347_2f0b3cc02a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ght5Rr)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on July 22, 2019, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 22, 2019, 01:49:08 PM
I saw a horizontally-mounted one in Laredo, Texas a few months back:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48100392347_2f0b3cc02a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ght5Rr)
Is there any reason it's a double red?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 22, 2019, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 18, 2019, 02:02:50 AM
people may mistake the on-ramp as also having priority over the frontage road. Also, this is the only frontage road along this stretch of I-5 that is two-way, so people may not be realizing that 5th does have cars coming towards them that do have priority.

All of these things should be obvious, but sometimes drivers do amaze me.

FWIW...  In Texas, state law dictates that on- and off-ramps have priority over the frontage road, even in the absence of yield signs for frontage road traffic.  That is to say, if you're on a frontage road and intend to veer left onto a highway by means of an on-ramp, you get to take priority over any oncoming frontage road traffic–even if they don't have a yield sign.

Quote from: Texas Transportation Code, Sec. 545.154
VEHICLE ENTERING OR LEAVING LIMITED-ACCESS OR CONTROLLED-ACCESS HIGHWAY.

An operator on an access or feeder road of a limited-access or controlled-access highway shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle entering or about to enter the access or feeder road from the highway or leaving or about to leave the access or feeder road to enter the highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on July 22, 2019, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 22, 2019, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 22, 2019, 01:49:08 PM
I saw a horizontally-mounted one in Laredo, Texas a few months back:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48100392347_2f0b3cc02a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ght5Rr)
Is there any reason it's a double red?

In case one of the red bulbs burn out, you have a back up?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 23, 2019, 01:06:54 AM


Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 21, 2019, 01:13:42 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 20, 2019, 01:29:10 AM
You won't find anything in the MUTCD about Type 3 object markers that aren't black and yellow. Chapter 6 discusses the white and orange ones—referred to there as "vertical panels", in the context of other channelizing devices for temporary traffic control (such as cones, drums, tubular markers and barricades).
Guess that explains the ones on the gate to the Juniper Springs Recreational Area off of FL 40 in Ocala National Forest:


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juniper_Springs_Recreation_Area_Gate-3.jpg


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juniper_Springs_Recreation_Area_Gate-4.jpg

And here I was thinking the orange and white was to contrast the brown and white Road Closed signs and make them more visible.

That's not a proper use of those panels. For a gate, it should have alternating red and white stripes similar to railroad grade crossing gates.

In looking for this in the MUTCD, I actually discovered another approved color combination for alternating diagonal stripes (although not classified as object markers).  There is a provision for certain uses of barricades–such as end of road, ramp/road closed for operational purposes (reversible lanes) etc.–that allows for red and white diagonal stripes. For barricades that signify the end of a road, they have to be a Type 3 barricade (the three horizontal panel variety).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 23, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Quote from: plain on July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)

These seem to be becoming more and more common in certain states. I like them.
They've existed on FL 50 @ Mariner Boulevard in Hernando County for more than 3 years. Zoom in on the picture at the link below;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_FL_50_%26_Mariner_Blvd;_U-Turn_%26_Left-Turn_Lanes.jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2019, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 23, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Quote from: plain on July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)

These seem to be becoming more and more common in certain states. I like them.
They've existed on FL 50 @ Mariner Boulevard in Hernando County for more than 3 years. Zoom in on the picture at the link below;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_FL_50_%26_Mariner_Blvd;_U-Turn_%26_Left-Turn_Lanes.jpg

More/less, they were first brought up on these boards here in Traffic Control in 2013, indicating they've been around for at least 7 years (since the GSV images would be from at least 2012).

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8471.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on July 23, 2019, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2019, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 23, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Quote from: plain on July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)

These seem to be becoming more and more common in certain states. I like them.
They've existed on FL 50 @ Mariner Boulevard in Hernando County for more than 3 years. Zoom in on the picture at the link below;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_FL_50_%26_Mariner_Blvd;_U-Turn_%26_Left-Turn_Lanes.jpg

More/less, they were first brought up on these boards here in Traffic Control in 2013, indicating they've been around for at least 7 years (since the GSV images would be from at least 2012).

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8471.0


I distinctly recall having seen one on MD 355 on the north side of Gaithersburg when I was living there (somewhere between 2009 and 2011).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 23, 2019, 11:31:20 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2019, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 23, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Quote from: plain on July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)

These seem to be becoming more and more common in certain states. I like them.
They've existed on FL 50 @ Mariner Boulevard in Hernando County for more than 3 years. Zoom in on the picture at the link below;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_FL_50_%26_Mariner_Blvd;_U-Turn_%26_Left-Turn_Lanes.jpg

More/less, they were first brought up on these boards here in Traffic Control in 2013, indicating they've been around for at least 7 years (since the GSV images would be from at least 2012).

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8471.0

Have they made it to NJ yet? I still haven't seen any there myself. I saw a few here in VA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on July 23, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Found this "parking" (or rarking?) sign while on the road  :hmmm:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/IMG_20190722_182825.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 23, 2019, 03:30:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2019, 06:07:29 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 23, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Quote from: plain on July 22, 2019, 11:09:44 AM
Quote from: relaxok on July 22, 2019, 01:47:34 AM
Someone posted a U-Turn Only sign & signal to reddit:

(https://i.imgur.com/X6gwO5R.jpg)

These seem to be becoming more and more common in certain states. I like them.
They've existed on FL 50 @ Mariner Boulevard in Hernando County for more than 3 years. Zoom in on the picture at the link below;
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_FL_50_%26_Mariner_Blvd;_U-Turn_%26_Left-Turn_Lanes.jpg

More/less, they were first brought up on these boards here in Traffic Control in 2013, indicating they've been around for at least 7 years (since the GSV images would be from at least 2012).

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=8471.0
The first photo is more unique in that it's a very unusual arrow style, unlike the style depicted in the MUTCD common to standard arrows. It's really hard to tell that it's an arrow, because the arrowhead is not well defined. Some photos/links in the U-turn thread linked above show the standard arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 23, 2019, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on July 22, 2019, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on July 22, 2019, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 22, 2019, 01:49:08 PM
I saw a horizontally-mounted one in Laredo, Texas a few months back:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48100392347_2f0b3cc02a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ght5Rr)
Is there any reason it's a double red?

In case one of the red bulbs burn out, you have a back up?

That's right.  In some states, they require that every separate signal be doubled in the eventuality that a bulb may burn out or that the signal is blocked from view by a high truck.  Other states only requite that the orb signals are doubled, not the arrow signals.  Most of the states that don't require doubling of the arrow signals, do require that at least the red is doubled.

This is very common in Baltimore:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2865385,-76.6134964,3a,75y,174.68h,88.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdYvKOYDkDwAtTSaW2lFwcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 23, 2019, 09:16:18 PM
Quote from: riiga on July 23, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Found this "parking" (or rarking?) sign while on the road  :hmmm:

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/IMG_20190722_182825.jpg)

And don't forget to skank din pant! If you don't, then your pants won't be sufficiently skanky.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 23, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QP68HHNiybK4hi7Z7
Not so unique (as Martin County, FL has many like these), but I find it interesting that the installers of these cannot figure out that the arrows goes on the bottom. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 26, 2019, 01:18:35 PM
My brother just sent this to me. No idea whether it's real, but who cares.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190726/eb359076e89d152b659ab4f33191d7cc.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on July 26, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
It was real. It was here. (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.9681546,-92.4663353,3a,15y,186.21h,83.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOaPjaSEU0WlWkoAU7DXdhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

As you can see, the sign has since been reworded. ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 26, 2019, 03:24:53 PM
Thanks. I sent that link to my brother.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 28, 2019, 07:01:27 PM
I've always wanted to get a good look at the bicycle notice here (https://goo.gl/maps/xGomYYmHT91uJLU9A) (which I think used to include a map), I instead was able to stop to take a picture of the sign on the other end of the lake (https://goo.gl/maps/qXsBFdWFAJr7T57y5).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48399614456_7e0d50e0be_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gJUFaj)US 101 Bicycle notice by Crescent Lake (https://flic.kr/p/2gJUFaj)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 29, 2019, 02:05:03 PM
Needed a copy editor.  (WHEN EVER)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 29, 2019, 05:10:38 PM
Renderings of the old signs (drawn from WSDOT SRView imagery years ago):

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/6/6a/Wsdot-bicyclists-read-notice-sign.png)

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/9/98/Wsdot-special-notice-for-cyclists.png)

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/1/1a/Wsdot-watch-for-bicyclists-on-winding-road-special-sign.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 30, 2019, 02:54:40 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 29, 2019, 05:10:38 PM
Renderings of the old signs (drawn from WSDOT SRView imagery years ago):

Thanks for posting. Gives a good example of how long signs are formatted. I would have assumed centre-justified, for some reason, but I see that is not how it's done.

I do wonder what the connection is between the signs you've posted, and those posted above by Arthur (ErmineNotyours); his are along the 101, but your example explicitly says "Highway 112". It's nearby, but technically a different route. Are we thinking that identical signs were used for both routes?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: someperson on August 03, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
Not sure why this warrants a sign. I guess Hank Hill would approve:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZCjiFm5REkBcXJGR8

This rather bleak sign was posted at the western US-59/I-610 interchange in Houston for many years. Recently removed as part of a construction project:
https://goo.gl/maps/UK9fTAW9k3zJQwQy9

Speed limit signs with both mph and km/h near IAH. There are quite a few examples of these near the airport for some reason:
https://goo.gl/maps/guD9oiJkZcgK5vva6
https://goo.gl/maps/KvQ4EGuHR5cGxcHv7

Sign for Houston TranStar:
https://goo.gl/maps/jgXC1y7GYVpx13yV7

Unusual detour sign for I-10 East:
https://i.imgur.com/MvM1PHQ.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on August 04, 2019, 05:14:07 AM
Quote from: someperson on August 03, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
Speed limit signs with both mph and km/h near IAH. There are quite a few examples of these near the airport for some reason:
https://goo.gl/maps/guD9oiJkZcgK5vva6
https://goo.gl/maps/KvQ4EGuHR5cGxcHv7
They're probably used for travelers from other countries.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 04, 2019, 04:11:00 PM
Eugene, OR: wasn't bad, but would be now. More misleading, I suppose? See the sign below the "merge" warning sign, which is no longer accurate. It says, "ramp traffic does not stop". The right turn slip lane used to have priority, but it no longer does (note the shark's teeth).

https://goo.gl/maps/7jb1zxinifDbvwBY7]

(https://i.imgur.com/qQgv5og.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on August 04, 2019, 04:38:00 PM
Well, there's a difference between stopping and yielding...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 05, 2019, 01:22:18 AM
Quote from: riiga on August 04, 2019, 04:38:00 PM
Well, there's a difference between stopping and yielding...  :rolleyes:

I've always thought of it as "yielding", and either proceeding or stopping as required.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 05, 2019, 01:33:54 AM
Quote from: roadfro on July 20, 2019, 01:29:10 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
I'm still trying to find anything in MUTCD on off-color Type 3 object markers. I've still seen recent versions of black and white ones, along with red and white ones, and non-construction use of orange and white ones.

http://www.trafficsign.us/shs/om/om3.pdf

Woodbine Avenue in Northport, NY has some of the red and white ones, but I can't find it on GSV.
You won't find anything in the MUTCD about Type 3 object markers that aren't black and yellow. Chapter 6 discusses the white and orange ones–referred to there as "vertical panels", in the context of other channelizing devices for temporary traffic control (such as cones, drums, tubular markers and barricades).

There were some red & white chevron height warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/SJT1TPcjYS2eKx4K8) along Longacres Way in Renton, WA up until about five years ago. Not sure I've seen anything quite like them, before or since. Doubt they were MUTCD-compliant, but I find them better than the current warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/h43XHikLw7qocroc8).

(https://i.imgur.com/C1W1rRt.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on August 05, 2019, 09:36:56 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 05, 2019, 01:33:54 AM
Quote from: roadfro on July 20, 2019, 01:29:10 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
I'm still trying to find anything in MUTCD on off-color Type 3 object markers. I've still seen recent versions of black and white ones, along with red and white ones, and non-construction use of orange and white ones.

http://www.trafficsign.us/shs/om/om3.pdf

Woodbine Avenue in Northport, NY has some of the red and white ones, but I can't find it on GSV.
You won't find anything in the MUTCD about Type 3 object markers that aren't black and yellow. Chapter 6 discusses the white and orange ones–referred to there as "vertical panels", in the context of other channelizing devices for temporary traffic control (such as cones, drums, tubular markers and barricades).

There were some red & white chevron height warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/SJT1TPcjYS2eKx4K8) along Longacres Way in Renton, WA up until about five years ago. Not sure I've seen anything quite like them, before or since. Doubt they were MUTCD-compliant, but I find them better than the current warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/h43XHikLw7qocroc8).

(https://i.imgur.com/C1W1rRt.png)
Just on the subject of clearance signs, a few months before I moved out of Newark DE, they started installing these non-conventional clearance warning signs at the low bridges in town, particularly the one on Chapel Street (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6867752,-75.7467962,3a,45y,136.24h,82.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9HClcgnNb0TDwpThU_pqtg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 06, 2019, 12:42:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 05, 2019, 01:33:54 AM
Quote from: roadfro on July 20, 2019, 01:29:10 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
I'm still trying to find anything in MUTCD on off-color Type 3 object markers. I've still seen recent versions of black and white ones, along with red and white ones, and non-construction use of orange and white ones.

http://www.trafficsign.us/shs/om/om3.pdf

Woodbine Avenue in Northport, NY has some of the red and white ones, but I can't find it on GSV.
You won't find anything in the MUTCD about Type 3 object markers that aren't black and yellow. Chapter 6 discusses the white and orange ones–referred to there as "vertical panels", in the context of other channelizing devices for temporary traffic control (such as cones, drums, tubular markers and barricades).

There were some red & white chevron height warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/SJT1TPcjYS2eKx4K8) along Longacres Way in Renton, WA up until about five years ago. Not sure I've seen anything quite like them, before or since. Doubt they were MUTCD-compliant, but I find them better than the current warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/h43XHikLw7qocroc8).

(https://i.imgur.com/C1W1rRt.png)
Those aren't chevrons...

But I like the concept of that though. If it were switched to black on yellow, it would be more MUTCD-kosher.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 06, 2019, 02:42:39 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 06, 2019, 12:42:15 AM
Those aren't chevrons...

But I like the concept of that though. If it were switched to black on yellow, it would be more MUTCD-kosher.

Indeed...perhaps I should have proofread.

I agree on the concept. I think it's great! I even prefer the colors, I think. But only because I feel like we overuse black and yellow. I feel like there are situations where red could be used more often. Blue, too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on August 07, 2019, 09:39:46 PM
Red warning signs should be used in cases like this.  The (in)famous 11'8" bridge should have these.

Both Kentucky and Tennessee use red warning signs for vehicles with explosive materials thinking about wanting to use the Cumberland Gap Tunnel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on August 08, 2019, 09:49:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 05, 2019, 01:33:54 AM
There were some red & white chevron height warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/SJT1TPcjYS2eKx4K8) along Longacres Way in Renton, WA up until about five years ago. Not sure I've seen anything quite like them, before or since. Doubt they were MUTCD-compliant, but I find them better than the current warning signs (https://goo.gl/maps/h43XHikLw7qocroc8).

(https://i.imgur.com/C1W1rRt.png)

I doubt they strictly followed MUTCD guidelines, but I'm pretty sure they had no interest in doing so.  Desperate times call for more creative measures, and I'm glad they got creative here.  Perhaps if a groundbreaking approach to low clearance signage is designed and constructed professionally enough, with sufficiently intuitive symbology, they can inspire a new standard or provision for the next edition of the MUTCD!  The choice of red instead of yellow is interesting to me, because it allows the signage here to stand out against a sea of other warning signs.  I think it was uncouth, but I think it was a good choice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 08, 2019, 09:29:31 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3149269,-74.1300108,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scBBTz0-0uSihucyqcHOGAw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Speaking of MUTCD, this is definitely not approved by it.  The Exit 16 sign gantry from the Thruway to NY 17.   That panel on the right is worse than an airport airline directory sign.  Too much sine salad here.  Hopefully the Harriman Plaza removal will get better signs here.   Also maybe take West Point off this as its really not needed (at least on the main guide anyway).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 09, 2019, 10:06:24 PM
Continuing the bike sign series.  The city of Bellevue chose to use white on blue, which can make it a little hard to read with the honeycomb shape of the reflector material showing through.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48499864156_f1f7f31d18_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gTLtUq)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 10, 2019, 11:19:49 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/48448719541/in/photostream This one I had to share from OK Roads Flickr as to me it's a bad attempt of shielding OH and US routes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 11, 2019, 11:02:34 PM
Over the weekend I discovered that St. Louis County (Minnesota) has started installing these new adopt-a-highway signs. I've of course seen county versions of adopt-a-highway signs before, but certainly not a fancy unique design like this.

(https://i.imgur.com/bDATNdC.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 15, 2019, 12:49:57 AM
For the ugly pile: Seaway Boulevard in Everett has this APL to funnel Boeing employees around.

(https://i.imgur.com/urGYHcs.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 15, 2019, 01:28:32 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 15, 2019, 12:49:57 AM
For the ugly pile: Seaway Boulevard in Everett has this APL to funnel Boeing employees around.

(https://i.imgur.com/urGYHcs.jpg)

I would've put this in the "Worst Of" thread. That shit is just horrible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 15, 2019, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 15, 2019, 12:49:57 AM
For the ugly pile: Seaway Boulevard in Everett has this APL to funnel Boeing employees around.

(https://i.imgur.com/urGYHcs.jpg)
Wonder if that sign was designed by the same engineers who designed the control system in the 737MAX?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 15, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
The only thing wrong with the sign is the lack of a divider between the two parking areas. Otherwise it's quite a nice sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 15, 2019, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 15, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
The only thing wrong with the sign is the lack of a divider between the two parking areas. Otherwise it's quite a nice sign.

Same here, except my main issue is that the arrows aren't centered over the lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on August 15, 2019, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 15, 2019, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 15, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
The only thing wrong with the sign is the lack of a divider between the two parking areas. Otherwise it's quite a nice sign.

Same here, except my main issue is that the arrows aren't centered over the lanes.

Yeah, it's pretty bad for visitors.  Employees should know where they're parking.  But a visitor wouldn't have a clue, and the 'Exit Only' stands out to the point where it would appear you want to make that right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 15, 2019, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on August 15, 2019, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 15, 2019, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 15, 2019, 02:58:25 PM
The only thing wrong with the sign is the lack of a divider between the two parking areas. Otherwise it's quite a nice sign.

Same here, except my main issue is that the arrows aren't centered over the lanes.

Yeah, it's pretty bad for visitors.  Employees should know where they're parking.  But a visitor wouldn't have a clue, and the 'Exit Only' stands out to the point where it would appear you want to make that right.

THe better approach would be to have a single sign of employee parking, with a straight/right option arrow and a right only arrow (somewhat equivalent to an APL, but only for the right two lanes, something quite common in Ontario Canada).  Then a sign on the left saying Vistior Parking (straight arrow).  This will let the vistiors know to keep going, and only emphasizing the exit for the right two lanes.   

(Maybe a candidate for Redesign This on the Illustrations Board [if it hasn't been sumbitted already].)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on August 19, 2019, 10:34:07 AM
While driving to/from Kentucky a couple weeks ago; I noticed a couple WV-related sign coincidental oddities along I-64; mainly with WV's fractional county routes.  One unfamiliar with such could mistake those shields for unishield concurrencies.

Pick a 25, any 25. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3628901,-81.7375091,3a,75y,312.29h,84.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srH07FN2MJHWA9d2Es_Xnlw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Depending on which exit one takes, one gets a different Route 60 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4164615,-82.2654747,3a,75y,57.54h,73.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seC4foQpEybqQe94mf7yLRA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeC4foQpEybqQe94mf7yLRA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D251.29175%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 19, 2019, 01:00:49 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on August 19, 2019, 10:34:07 AM
While driving to/from Kentucky a couple weeks ago; I noticed a couple WV-related sign coincidental oddities along I-64; mainly with WV's fractional county routes.  One unfamiliar with such could mistake those shields for unishield concurrencies.

Pick a 25, any 25. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3628901,-81.7375091,3a,75y,312.29h,84.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srH07FN2MJHWA9d2Es_Xnlw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

The interesting thing about that exit is that the westbound exit ramp dumps you out on CR 25/25, while the eastbound exit ramp puts you right on WV 25.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 20, 2019, 08:24:27 AM
Okay, I've brought up the signs for the car/truck splits at rest areas in South Carolina in the past. Now how about this one:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I-95_Santee_SC_NB_Rest_Area;_Patrolled_by_Cops.jpg

Would these be considered regulatory signs, or motorist service signs?

I only ask because in other states, the same messages could be in blue (or dare I say it,... green).


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 20, 2019, 10:19:09 PM
Only in SoCal:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/it-could-crack-120-degrees-in-death-valley-as-extreme-heat-roasts-much-of-the-u-s/ar-AAG4VSe?ocid=spartandhp

(https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAG4Dal.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 21, 2019, 01:12:03 PM
This is on the inside back cover of the September 2019 issue of Consumer Reports. It says the reader who submitted it took the photo in Waldoboro, Maine. I haven't taken the time to try to look for it on Street View. (The photo in the magazine is in focus; the slight blur here is from my phone's camera.)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190821/80b33105931f11a314235fc153f69faa.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2019, 12:20:35 AM
When I was a kid and I saw this sign Prevent radiator boil over.  Turn off air conditioning (https://goo.gl/maps/1L2sMp11gf4q7ryTA), I wondered why they put that sign there in particular.  Our family didn't have air conditioning, and so I didn't know the stress it would put on a car driving up a hill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2019, 12:43:21 AM
Also only in SoCal, at a rest area on I-5 between Los Angeles and San Diego.  Don't Tread On Me.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48597112226_351cddc3cf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h3mUnh)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 22, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Along that same line, this is at an I-80 rest area in the Utah west desert.

(https://i.imgur.com/DrzQLB8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 22, 2019, 11:46:48 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2019, 12:20:35 AMWhen I was a kid and I saw this sign Prevent radiator boil over.  Turn off air conditioning (https://goo.gl/maps/1L2sMp11gf4q7ryTA), I wondered why they put that sign there in particular.  Our family didn't have air conditioning, and so I didn't know the stress it would put on a car driving up a hill.

That is also a Caltrans classic, with examples on I-5 at the Grapevine, SR 190 in Death Valley, and SR 180 approaching Kings Canyon and Sequoia NPs from Fresno.  I think the message is dated and this sign can be eliminated altogether, since it has been probably many decades since the last vehicle rolled off the assembly line with cooling capacity so marginal that A/C operation (or other accessory load) noticeably increases the risk of overheating during a hill climb.

Newer cars tend to have soft-start fans that start running at slow speed when engine coolant just barely begins to climb above usual operating temperature, which tends to mask the thermal effects hill climbs and other elevated loads have on the engine.  However, older cars (such as my 1994 Saturn) have hard-start fans that run at full speed once the coolant temperature reaches a fan-on point that is just under the "danger" range on the temperature gauge.  Once the fan kicks on, the response is dramatic--the temperature drops rapidly until it reaches thermostat opening point and the fan shuts off.  Engine overheating typically results from the cooling system being crippled in some way, e.g. a coolant return hose being plugged or the radiator cap no longer holding pressure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on August 22, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on July 16, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
US 59 near Atchison, Kansas. Don't let anyone tell you there's nothing to see in Kansas.

(https://i.imgur.com/qO2zr3G.jpg)

Would this be a sign directing travelers to the very first Pizza Hut in Wichita, KS? That could very well be an actual "tourist attraction".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 23, 2019, 02:46:17 PM
Um, no.  Wichita is not 2.9 miles from Atchison.  Also, the original Pizza Hut is no longer in its original location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 24, 2019, 01:33:27 AM
Not sure about this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/uyk798u.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 24, 2019, 02:56:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 24, 2019, 01:33:27 AM
Not sure about this one.

https://i.imgur.com/uyk798u.jpg

Holy crap, that thing is ancient. Well, the typeface is. Where is that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 24, 2019, 06:39:21 PM
Brand-new gantry and APL on M-5 at I-96/I-275 in Novi, MI.  No additional bracing on the back side.  I'm going to make sure I'm not anywhere near this thing during a stiff wind.

(https://i.imgur.com/xKxzUYL.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 24, 2019, 10:39:21 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 22, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Along that same line, this is at an I-80 rest area in the Utah west desert.

(https://i.imgur.com/DrzQLB8.jpg)

Texas also gets in on the act...this is the I-10 Welcome Center in Orange:  https://goo.gl/maps/uRPX3UWiLPp7UrRV8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 24, 2019, 10:54:43 PM
Weird over-size California spades on Mono Street and Van Ness in downtown Fresno.  These things are becoming more rare but once were very common on surface streets in downtown.  The font is weird and shields seem to be made from a substandard vinyl:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48604447502_a32e0f73ed_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h41uTy)99CAa (https://flic.kr/p/2h41uTy) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 24, 2019, 06:39:21 PM
Brand-new gantry and APL on M-5 at I-96/I-275 in Novi, MI.  No additional bracing on the back side.  I'm going to make sure I'm not anywhere near this thing during a stiff wind.

(https://i.imgur.com/xKxzUYL.jpg)

Glad to see that they didn't opt for any "EXIT ONLY" plaques. I've always felt it was redundant with arrow-per-lane signs.

I see that the M5 extends to the left beyond this junction; perhaps they didn't want to sign the up arrows with the exit-only message (since up arrows are probably most often associated with through movements), so they just omitted it altogether.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 25, 2019, 02:06:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 24, 2019, 06:39:21 PM
Brand-new gantry and APL on M-5 at I-96/I-275 in Novi, MI.  No additional bracing on the back side.  I'm going to make sure I'm not anywhere near this thing during a stiff wind.

(https://i.imgur.com/xKxzUYL.jpg)

Glad to see that they didn't opt for any "EXIT ONLY" plaques. I've always felt it was redundant with arrow-per-lane signs.

I see that the M5 extends to the left beyond this junction; perhaps they didn't want to sign the up arrows with the exit-only message (since up arrows are probably most often associated with through movements), so they just omitted it altogether.

I'd chalk it up more to inconsistency than anything else.  The whole M-5 signing plan is really sloppy IMO and has several questionable composition details, among other issues.  Worth noting is that the old sign this one replaced indicated the right lane as exit only to I-275, although the pavement marking indicates the LEFT lane is an exit only.  (By the way, my post was because of the precarious-appearing mounting of the sign on the gantry, not because of the sign design.)

(https://i.imgur.com/aZ6V18F.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on August 25, 2019, 02:18:41 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5929719,-77.5686533,3a,15y,91.68h,81.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV0wxvy5x0Rk5EfnGbre3vw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This is funny. Who would drive that slow?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on August 25, 2019, 02:35:51 AM
A speed limit sign you can see in parking lots all over the country. Hilarious!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 25, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 24, 2019, 10:54:43 PM
Weird over-size California spades on Mono Street and Van Ness in downtown Fresno.  These things are becoming more rare but once were very common on surface streets in downtown.  The font is weird and shields seem to be made from a substandard vinyl:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48604447502_a32e0f73ed_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h41uTy)99CAa (https://flic.kr/p/2h41uTy) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

My guess is that Fresno made their own signs, as opposed to getting them from Caltrans.  I guess signing along non-Caltrans roads is the local responsibility.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 25, 2019, 10:18:16 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 24, 2019, 10:39:21 PM
Texas also gets in on the act...this is the I-10 Welcome Center in Orange:  https://goo.gl/maps/uRPX3UWiLPp7UrRV8
Oh, they're really common in Florida. This is on I-4 in Polk County, and it's not the only one:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caution_Venomous_Snakes_Sign.jpg


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 25, 2019, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 25, 2019, 10:18:16 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 24, 2019, 10:39:21 PM
Texas also gets in on the act...this is the I-10 Welcome Center in Orange:  https://goo.gl/maps/uRPX3UWiLPp7UrRV8
Oh, they're really common in Florida. This is on I-4 in Polk County, and it's not the only one:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caution_Venomous_Snakes_Sign.jpg



Paines Prairie on I-75 has the same.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 25, 2019, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: mrsman on August 25, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 24, 2019, 10:54:43 PM
Weird over-size California spades on Mono Street and Van Ness in downtown Fresno.  These things are becoming more rare but once were very common on surface streets in downtown.  The font is weird and shields seem to be made from a substandard vinyl:



My guess is that Fresno made their own signs, as opposed to getting them from Caltrans.  I guess signing along non-Caltrans roads is the local responsibility.

Fresno definitely makes their own signs.  They get even stranger like this 99 on a white blank:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1782/42193939394_3b317eddcc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27hwYaG)IMG_7686 (https://flic.kr/p/27hwYaG) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 25, 2019, 06:48:36 PM
QuoteI guess signing along non-Caltrans roads is the local responsibility.

Generally yes. Even on state highways, if the alignment is relinquished but the agreement is to keep the routing continuous, then you'll see them there too. CA 111 in Riverside County is like that, a patchwork of different agencies maintaining it and sometimes wildly divergent (or even non-existent) signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 25, 2019, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 25, 2019, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 25, 2019, 10:18:16 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 24, 2019, 10:39:21 PM
Texas also gets in on the act...this is the I-10 Welcome Center in Orange:  https://goo.gl/maps/uRPX3UWiLPp7UrRV8
Oh, they're really common in Florida. This is on I-4 in Polk County, and it's not the only one:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caution_Venomous_Snakes_Sign.jpg
Paines Prairie on I-75 has the same.
I took a picture of that years ago. It turned out terrible. Even cropping it around the sign doesn't make the lettering any more visible.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on August 26, 2019, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 24, 2019, 02:56:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 24, 2019, 01:33:27 AM
Not sure about this one.

https://i.imgur.com/uyk798u.jpg

Holy crap, that thing is ancient. Well, the typeface is. Where is that?

As I recall, that is on WA-99 southbound approaching 196th in Lynnwood.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 26, 2019, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2019, 12:43:21 AM
Also only in SoCal, at a rest area on I-5 between Los Angeles and San Diego.  Don't Tread On Me.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48597112226_351cddc3cf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h3mUnh)

I can see the movie now:  Snakes in a Rest Area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 26, 2019, 10:56:32 PM
Whoops:

https://twitter.com/marctomik/status/1166114831994413057
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 26, 2019, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 26, 2019, 02:29:42 PM


I can see the movie now:  Snakes in a Rest Area.

"I'm so tired of these m[flushing sounds]king snakes!"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 27, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48630093916/in/dateposted-public/
This one in Atlanta, Texas is interesting as TexDOT uses freeway style (large) shields on a regular arterial.  I think this assembly is cool despite it being ordinary!

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 27, 2019, 12:01:54 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 27, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48630093916/in/dateposted-public/
This one in Atlanta, Texas is interesting as TexDOT uses freeway style (large) shields on a regular arterial.  I think this assembly is cool despite it being ordinary!

The last time (1995) signs were replaced along I-95 between Reading and Lynnfield, the contractor chose to install freeway size shields for the junction markers on secondary roads (despite there being details for smaller shields on the plans and sign summary).  A number of them were immediately removed due to objections from adjacent property owners (one was placed on the lawn of a senior housing center).  Others are still in place, but are now incomplete (missing 'JCT' plates).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 28, 2019, 08:16:03 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48630217068/in/photostream

I like the truck warning sign here with the contrast bars on both sides.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2019, 12:38:56 PM
Here's a couple of interesting uses of old signs. In Port Chester, New York, there's a custom motorcycle shop that deliberately uses the wrong New York State and US shields. It's US 1 on an NYS shield, and NY 22 on a US shield. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0100527,-73.6562596,3a,75y,91.39h,90.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgnzDy4dZBM9zfKvloDtPQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) NY 22 doesn't go anywhere near Port Chester, but that was still the route they chose for their own sign.


There are also some fake road signs in Downtown DeLand, Florida on US 17/92 that are evidently a form of street art which blocks a parking lot entrance. Google Street View isn't covering it, and I haven't posted my pics of it from the June 2019 daytrip I took yet. So I suppose I'll have to post them in the Wikimedia Commons and deal with the copyvio scrutiny when that time comes.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 28, 2019, 08:07:01 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/gUrTdPmx8pPDHRCt6
The Baldwin Beach Express bad attempt at a shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 29, 2019, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: Bruce on August 26, 2019, 10:56:32 PM
Whoops:

Match made in Heaven.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on August 29, 2019, 06:22:35 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 28, 2019, 12:38:56 PM
Here's a couple of interesting uses of old signs. In Port Chester, New York, there's a custom motorcycle shop that deliberately uses the wrong New York State and US shields. It's US 1 on an NYS shield, and NY 22 on a US shield. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0100527,-73.6562596,3a,75y,91.39h,90.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgnzDy4dZBM9zfKvloDtPQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) NY 22 doesn't go anywhere near Port Chester, but that was still the route they chose for their own sign.

They could've used a cutout from Connecticut. The Byram River and state line are immediately behind the building! :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 29, 2019, 11:14:46 PM
Neon blankout US 99 shield at 4th & Westlake in Seattle, December 1941.  Normally 99 would go straight (left) through here before the viaduct, when US 10 went north through here.  Perhaps the neon is activated when they want 99 traffic to turn right due to conditions.  Notice the arrow on top.  "Aurora" is on top where "US" should be, and "US" is below where the state should be.  In the background workers are installing an air raid siren.  In the foreground is a drinking fountain with a working dog trough.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48645421091_285fe3a484_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7CuUK)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 31, 2019, 10:08:41 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48651036797/

Whoever did this sign for adding IH 369 could have also noticed the lettering needs work also.  Part new and definitely mostly old.

Though quite common it's also quite ironic to have an exit sign on an entrance ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 01, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
Took a photo of this Maryland custom "WARNING !!" sign as US-220 approaches the stoplight for I-68 from Pennsylvania.
(https://i.ibb.co/JpMy7BN/IMG-7875.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5jfn8Md)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on September 02, 2019, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on September 01, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
Took a photo of this Maryland custom "WARNING !!" sign as US-220 approaches the stoplight for I-68 from Pennsylvania.
(https://i.ibb.co/JpMy7BN/IMG-7875.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5jfn8Md)

I've always liked Maryland's pictures of diamond signs against black backgrounds on signs like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 04, 2019, 04:42:38 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CHy4L2iwXHZSUdcv8
US 15 does not get mentioned going S Bound which is more than strange as it very well does so. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 04, 2019, 05:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on September 02, 2019, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on September 01, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
Took a photo of this Maryland custom "WARNING !!" sign as US-220 approaches the stoplight for I-68 from Pennsylvania.
(https://i.ibb.co/JpMy7BN/IMG-7875.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5jfn8Md)

I've always liked Maryland's pictures of diamond signs against black backgrounds on signs like that.
Better than this.https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48650439118/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on September 06, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
I think this is an interesting sign, so I'm posting it here.
I noticed the provision for this type of sign in the MUTCD before one was ever put into practice, wondering about the type of scenario that could put one to good use.  This is for eastbound cars on the main east-west street accessing downtown Plainfield, as it rises to pass over I-55.  Immediately after the crest is a right turn onto an eastern frontage road to I-55.  Eastbound cars can have a hard time anticipating traffic coming from the right (GSV) (https://goo.gl/maps/M8wJE12J2ARJ9i4w9).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48687978868_015ee86832_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hboBRw)
Hill Blocks View (https://flic.kr/p/2hboBRw) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 06, 2019, 08:01:38 PM
Today I discovered that the Little Town of Bethlehem has started using its own design for hamlet signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6247033,-73.8259895,3a,15.1y,115.41h,83.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp-ADfFbjUTfH-ZLB_kEKrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  The previous signage was the generic style (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6246589,-73.8261054,3a,64y,94.66h,83.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO5pEpPSkWlnEbSAuqoYO8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 07, 2019, 10:56:42 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48693222753/in/dateposted-public/
Arkansas across the state line in Texas.  Usually AR uses JCT xx on their guides leading to another route.    Plus IH 30 is over 1.5 miles away and gets the JCT like its right there to the left immediately as is US 82 to the right here at an intersection in Texarkana, TX.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 07, 2019, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 06, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
I think this is an interesting sign, so I'm posting it here.
I noticed the provision for this type of sign in the MUTCD before one was ever put into practice, wondering about the type of scenario that could put one to good use.  This is for eastbound cars on the main east-west street accessing downtown Plainfield, as it rises to pass over I-55.  Immediately after the crest is a right turn onto an eastern frontage road to I-55.  Eastbound cars can have a hard time anticipating traffic coming from the right (GSV) (https://goo.gl/maps/M8wJE12J2ARJ9i4w9).


We'd need hundreds of those signs in Seattle alone. Lots of weird things happen when you force a grid on a glacier-sculpted hillside.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 08, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48698724918/in/dateposted-public/
I found this one here.  If you look on the signal pole there is an unusual sign saying " Train Blocking Richmond Rd. When Flashing."

I am guessing there is a nearby rail crossing and this sign is posted where drivers have access to another route that bypasses the crossing.  We have one now similar in Lakeland, FL where drivers have a neon lit sign (when the train is present) way before the CSX crossing on Florida Avenue saying to use nearby SR 563 which has an underpass at the rail line.  In addition TO US 98 (N Bound) and TO FL 37 (S Bound) are present now beyond the CSX underpass directing you back to Florida Avenue as that particular road is both of them routes on both sides of FL 548 which runs two blocks to the north of the CSX freight line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on September 08, 2019, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 08, 2019, 10:03:16 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48698724918/in/dateposted-public/
I found this one here.  If you look on the signal pole there is an unusual sign saying " Train Blocking Richmond Rd. When Flashing."

I am guessing there is a nearby rail crossing and this sign is posted where drivers have access to another route that bypasses the crossing.  We have one now similar in Lakeland, FL where drivers have a neon lit sign (when the train is present) way before the CSX crossing on Florida Avenue saying to use nearby SR 563 which has an underpass at the rail line.  In addition TO US 98 (N Bound) and TO FL 37 (S Bound) are present now beyond the CSX underpass directing you back to Florida Avenue as that particular road is both of them routes on both sides of FL 548 which runs two blocks to the north of the CSX freight line.

Similar situation in Louisville on I-265. There are not one but two flashing warning panels to tell traffic to take the next exit when a train is blocking Chamberlain Lane. "Chamberlain Lane Traffic"  is the way to describe the KY Ford Truck Plant (almost 9,000 employees) without putting a specific name on the sign.

https://goo.gl/maps/VivwsBp7mGj3BFFY8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 08, 2019, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 07, 2019, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 06, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
I think this is an interesting sign, so I'm posting it here.
I noticed the provision for this type of sign in the MUTCD before one was ever put into practice, wondering about the type of scenario that could put one to good use.  This is for eastbound cars on the main east-west street accessing downtown Plainfield, as it rises to pass over I-55.  Immediately after the crest is a right turn onto an eastern frontage road to I-55.  Eastbound cars can have a hard time anticipating traffic coming from the right (GSV) (https://goo.gl/maps/M8wJE12J2ARJ9i4w9).

We'd need hundreds of those signs in Seattle alone. Lots of weird things happen when you force a grid on a glacier-sculpted hillside.

The worst situation seems to be when driving along single-track neighborhood streets (with parking along either side), and you come to the crest of a hill (https://goo.gl/maps/nC6cqNBwquxdudh5A). Best advice is to roll down the window and listen for other cars. Seems dangerous, but the roads aren't well-trafficked, and the narrowness of the street keeps traffic speeds low.

But you're right. You'd need an insane number of these signs. They're not used already, I suspect, because drivers are expected to watch for this already.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2019, 02:31:34 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 29, 2019, 11:14:46 PM
Neon blankout US 99 shield at 4th & Westlake in Seattle, December 1941.  Normally 99 would go straight (left) through here before the viaduct, when US 10 went north through here.  Perhaps the neon is activated when they want 99 traffic to turn right due to conditions.  Notice the arrow on top.  "Aurora" is on top where "US" should be, and "US" is below where the state should be.  In the background workers are installing an air raid siren.  In the foreground is a drinking fountain with a working dog trough.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48645421091_285fe3a484_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h7CuUK)

That is an amazing sign. I wonder why it says "Aurora" rather than Washington. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on September 09, 2019, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 07, 2019, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 06, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
I think this is an interesting sign, so I'm posting it here.
I noticed the provision for this type of sign in the MUTCD before one was ever put into practice, wondering about the type of scenario that could put one to good use.  This is for eastbound cars on the main east-west street accessing downtown Plainfield, as it rises to pass over I-55.  Immediately after the crest is a right turn onto an eastern frontage road to I-55.  Eastbound cars can have a hard time anticipating traffic coming from the right (GSV) (https://goo.gl/maps/M8wJE12J2ARJ9i4w9).


We'd need hundreds of those signs in Seattle alone. Lots of weird things happen when you force a grid on a glacier-sculpted hillside.

We have lots (maybe even hundreds) of them here in and around Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 09, 2019, 10:38:44 PM
A story about an interesting sign...

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/philadelphia-historic-tree-sign-city-avenue-20190909.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 10, 2019, 09:28:16 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2019, 05:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on September 02, 2019, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on September 01, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
Took a photo of this Maryland custom "WARNING !!" sign as US-220 approaches the stoplight for I-68 from Pennsylvania.
(https://i.ibb.co/JpMy7BN/IMG-7875.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5jfn8Md)

I've always liked Maryland's pictures of diamond signs against black backgrounds on signs like that.
Better than this.https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48650439118/
Peretty good, but I like the Maryland one better. I forget where, but I've seen that on a lot of other roads within the state.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 10, 2019, 01:44:35 PM
This is not a road sign:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Joe_Austin_Park_Qns_td_(2018-05-21)_09_-_Field_Closed.jpg
But it does make me think of off-color Road Closed signs.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 10, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Long gone, but similar to other signs I've posted before about "road planned to be extended in the future", used primarily by Pierce County, WA. This sign was in Thurston County, WA (the road was actually "connected"):

https://goo.gl/maps/EJZFH8nisdrF81pc9

(https://i.imgur.com/bXe9cNA.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 11, 2019, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2019, 11:37:21 PM

The worst situation seems to be when driving along single-track neighborhood streets (with parking along either side), and you come to the crest of a hill (https://goo.gl/maps/nC6cqNBwquxdudh5A). Best advice is to roll down the window and listen for other cars. Seems dangerous, but the roads aren't well-trafficked, and the narrowness of the street keeps traffic speeds low.

But you're right. You'd need an insane number of these signs. They're not used already, I suspect, because drivers are expected to watch for this already.

I can't believe Pierce Transit rerouted #11 on a narrow residential street.  When I road it, one bus or the other had to pull over wherever possible to let the other bus pass.  However, it seems to be traditionally a bus route, as seen by the remains of this ancient bus stop sign (https://goo.gl/maps/y1oNHyNerjMuWwc79).

Edited for clarity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 11, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2019, 02:31:34 PM

That is an amazing sign. I wonder why it says "Aurora" rather than Washington.

Aurora Avenue was the route of US 99, current SR 99.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 11, 2019, 11:41:34 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 11, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2019, 02:31:34 PM

That is an amazing sign. I wonder why it says "Aurora" rather than Washington.

Aurora Avenue was the route of US 99, current SR 99.

But that space in the US shield was normally occupied by the state name.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 12, 2019, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 11, 2019, 11:41:34 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 11, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2019, 02:31:34 PM

That is an amazing sign. I wonder why it says "Aurora" rather than Washington.

Aurora Avenue was the route of US 99, current SR 99.

But that space in the US shield was normally occupied by the state name.

But it does go over the George Washington Bridge, a name which no one uses.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 13, 2019, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 12, 2019, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 11, 2019, 11:41:34 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 11, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on September 09, 2019, 02:31:34 PM

That is an amazing sign. I wonder why it says "Aurora" rather than Washington.

Aurora Avenue was the route of US 99, current SR 99.

But that space in the US shield was normally occupied by the state name.

But it does go over the George Washington Bridge, a name which no one uses.

Keep in mind, while shaped like an official US shield, the neon sign is not an official sign.  It is done, as mentioned earlier, to direct traffic based on conditions.

For old technology, this was the form of changeable message sign that they had.  Basically, it can change to guide traffic either striaght or to the right, depending on condtions, like perhaps if a drawbridge were open.  Locals probably referred to the stretch to the north as Aurora, the local street name.  Non-locals would probably follow the highway number.

Incidentally, does anyone know what the normal routing of US 99 through Downtown Seattle was at the time?  I presume this was before construction of the viaduct.

I found this map on David Rumsey from 1956. 

https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~212302~5500344:Shell-Street-Map-of-Seattle-;JSESSIONID=e115ceef-bdb0-4007-8288-500a351e30b5?showTipAdvancedSearch=false&showShareIIIFLink=true&showTip=false&helpUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fdoc.lunaimaging.com%2Fdisplay%2FV74D%2FLUNA%2BViewer%23LUNAViewer-LUNAViewer&title=Search+Results%3A+List_No+equal+to+%275840.167%27&fullTextSearchChecked=&dateRangeSearchChecked=&advancedSearchUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fdoc.lunaimaging.com%2Fdisplay%2FV74D%2FSearching%23Searching-Searching&thumbnailViewUrlKey=link.view.search.url

It indicates that 99 went along 4th Ave - Westlake- 7th Ave - Aurora.  But I have no clue as to what way it went if it did not take Westlake.  Presumably, 4th Ave to Wall to Aurora.  Again, any answers are appreciated.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on September 14, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
Today at the US 95 entrance to the Nevada National Security Site (aka "Area 51"):

(https://i.imgur.com/k7th5mh.jpg)

I saw no demonstrators (or "stormers"), but the guards were everywhere ... and were, let's just say, not too friendly. ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 15, 2019, 10:57:52 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/8618015268/in/album-72157634938267183/
Large shields that  Arkansas once used on defunct AR 249.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: someperson on September 15, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
I've always thought the Katy Tollway shields here in the Houston area look terrible:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZmhJjA5fsBMWhYaE6
https://goo.gl/maps/CMpH3PXvZxF1XtMp9

I also miss the purple signs on the Westpark Tollway (they've since been replaced with green signs):
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/westpark-tollway-tx/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 15, 2019, 02:43:49 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on September 14, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
Today at the US 95 entrance to the Nevada National Security Site (aka "Area 51"):

(https://i.imgur.com/k7th5mh.jpg)

I saw no demonstrators (or "stormers"), but the guards were everywhere ... and were, let's just say, not too friendly. ;)

I would assume that the speed restriction is only when the yellow light is flashing.  most days, no protestors so traffic is normal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on September 15, 2019, 09:22:40 PM
Are there any other four digit Interstate signs?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpatternsandprinciples.com%2Fotherfiles%2Frs%2F4.jpg&hash=85163b381d11638ac50d8641cb2953cb15170756)

More photos and a short report are at this link.
http://patternsandprinciples.com/otherfiles/rs/interstate1189.html (http://patternsandprinciples.com/otherfiles/rs/interstate1189.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zzyzx on September 15, 2019, 10:24:40 PM
Of all the things to find on my walk, I would have never expected to see a wild mini CA exit gore sign at the Woodbridge Community Center in Irvine:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190916/da7d20112b52c7bcca0792f49177c752.jpg)


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mapman1071 on September 15, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: wxfree on September 15, 2019, 09:22:40 PM
Are there any other four digit Interstate signs?

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpatternsandprinciples.com%2Fotherfiles%2Frs%2F4.jpg&hash=85163b381d11638ac50d8641cb2953cb15170756)

More photos and a short report are at this link.
http://patternsandprinciples.com/otherfiles/rs/interstate1189.html (http://patternsandprinciples.com/otherfiles/rs/interstate1189.html)
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on September 15, 2019, 11:39:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2019, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 07, 2019, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 06, 2019, 12:56:33 PM
I think this is an interesting sign, so I'm posting it here.
I noticed the provision for this type of sign in the MUTCD before one was ever put into practice, wondering about the type of scenario that could put one to good use.  This is for eastbound cars on the main east-west street accessing downtown Plainfield, as it rises to pass over I-55.  Immediately after the crest is a right turn onto an eastern frontage road to I-55.  Eastbound cars can have a hard time anticipating traffic coming from the right (GSV) (https://goo.gl/maps/M8wJE12J2ARJ9i4w9).

We'd need hundreds of those signs in Seattle alone. Lots of weird things happen when you force a grid on a glacier-sculpted hillside.

The worst situation seems to be when driving along single-track neighborhood streets (with parking along either side), and you come to the crest of a hill (https://goo.gl/maps/nC6cqNBwquxdudh5A). Best advice is to roll down the window and listen for other cars. Seems dangerous, but the roads aren't well-trafficked, and the narrowness of the street keeps traffic speeds low.

But you're right. You'd need an insane number of these signs. They're not used already, I suspect, because drivers are expected to watch for this already.

Actually, the "Hill Blocks View" sign isn't to be used in Washington at all since it is deleted in Washington's MUTCD modifications: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=468-95-125 I believe the reasoning for this was along the lines of what you guys said about too many signs being needed and drivers being expected to know this already, as well as potential liability issues if some hills had the sign posted and others didn't.

That being said, I do know of at least one place where that sign has been posted, on this road in unincorporated Snohomish County: https://goo.gl/maps/eUr6fMxXmNs1qHxw9.

As for my own interesting sign, I like this one where WSDOT decided to just draw a map of the the downgrade on US 2 as it approaches the Columbia River https://goo.gl/maps/Et27PNZTEDCY39nc6.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 16, 2019, 12:42:11 PM
Quote from: wxfree on September 15, 2019, 09:22:40 PM
Are there any other four digit Interstate signs?
"I-195" in RI: http://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=ri103&state=RI&file=101_9891.JPG
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 16, 2019, 07:48:09 PM
There's a "Hill Blocks View" sign on KY 163 in Edmonton, just south of US 68.

Wouldn't "Limited Sight Distance," which I've also seen, be just as appropriate?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 17, 2019, 12:24:26 AM
The SR 102 interchange at I-84 in Tremonton, Utah features a few examples of both types, which I found strange at the time because the geometry of this bridge isn't really all that different from others in the area which lack the signs. Perhaps the signs are posted because of a comparatively higher crash rate.

(https://i.imgur.com/QleILva.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3ALNrmr.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 17, 2019, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 16, 2019, 07:48:09 PMThere's a "Hill Blocks View" sign on KY 163 in Edmonton, just south of US 68.

Wouldn't "Limited Sight Distance," which I've also seen, be just as appropriate?

"Limited Sight Distance" has been used in the past by multiple jurisdictions.  Now that "Hill Blocks View" is actually in the MUTCD (as of the 2009 edition at least), I don't think "Limited Sight Distance" can be used anymore since the get-out clause that allows custom text message signs applies only to situations for which the MUTCD does not already have a sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on September 17, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

Somebody was high when they put up that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 17, 2019, 09:46:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 16, 2019, 07:48:09 PM
There's a "Hill Blocks View" sign on KY 163 in Edmonton, just south of US 68.

Wouldn't "Limited Sight Distance," which I've also seen, be just as appropriate?
US 301 in Waldo, FL has one heading up the bridge over the CSX tracks and EB FL 24.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 17, 2019, 10:09:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Fs1vBbCHSaBSZFgs6
NO RE-ENTRY TO BRIDGE is odd because you can real easily get off at US 9W and get back on to the freeway leading to the George Washington Bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on September 17, 2019, 11:55:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 17, 2019, 10:09:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Fs1vBbCHSaBSZFgs6
NO RE-ENTRY TO BRIDGE is odd because you can real easily get off at US 9W and get back on to the freeway leading to the George Washington Bridge.

I think the intent of that sign may be to prohibit re-entering to the bridge as opposed to being a warning that it isn't possible, though in that case it should be on a white background, not yellow.
Next sign up gets the colors right though: https://goo.gl/maps/xQgFyPPVMzZxX9GZ8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 18, 2019, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: wxfree on September 17, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

Somebody was high when they put up that sign.

I suppose the sign won't become obscured by weeds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 18, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 18, 2019, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: wxfree on September 17, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

Somebody was high when they put up that sign.

I suppose the sign won't become obscured by weeds.

A reason to excuse poor maintenance, makes sense to me.  ;-)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 18, 2019, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 18, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 18, 2019, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: wxfree on September 17, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

Somebody was high when they put up that sign.

I suppose the sign won't become obscured by weeds.

A reason to excuse poor maintenance, makes sense to me.  ;-)

woosh
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on September 18, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 18, 2019, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: wxfree on September 17, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

Somebody was high when they put up that sign.

I suppose the sign won't become obscured by weeds.

i'm pretty sure weed factored heavily into the obscure location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on September 18, 2019, 08:39:33 PM
Found this unique sign in East Rochester, NY today.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1207625,-77.478123,3a,15y,318.37h,89.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssgHtXONOJOSo2IlYled7jA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&authuser=0

It says:
WATCH FOR
CHILDREN
RADAR WILL
WATCH YOU
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on September 18, 2019, 11:25:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 18, 2019, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 18, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 18, 2019, 07:09:39 AM
Quote from: wxfree on September 17, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

Somebody was high when they put up that sign.

I suppose the sign won't become obscured by weeds.

A reason to excuse poor maintenance, makes sense to me.  ;-)

woosh

To rephrase, let's say it this way: You couldn't install the sign like that without getting high first.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2019, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: wxfree on September 18, 2019, 11:25:40 PM
To rephrase, let's say it this way: You couldn't install the sign like that without getting high first.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/HWM6LIwxmu7vi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 21, 2019, 01:17:39 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

It is odd that it is so high up. But it actually doesn't seem to be against MUTCD. Section 2A.18 governs mounting height, and the whole section has standards for minimum mounting heights of signs (generally, bottom of sign must be 7 feet above the sidewalk/curb/edge of travelled way in urban areas and 5 feet above in rural areas), but there isn't a standard or recommended maximum height.

Maybe the designer/installer thought this should be classified as an overhead sign...? Those have to be 17 feet above the pavement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 21, 2019, 07:08:34 AM
Quote from: roadfro on September 21, 2019, 01:17:39 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

It is odd that it is so high up. But it actually doesn't seem to be against MUTCD. Section 2A.18 governs mounting height, and the whole section has standards for minimum mounting heights of signs (generally, bottom of sign must be 7 feet above the sidewalk/curb/edge of travelled way in urban areas and 5 feet above in rural areas), but there isn't a standard or recommended maximum height.

Maybe the designer/installer thought this should be classified as an overhead sign...? Those have to be 17 feet above the pavement.
This made me think about something.  I know at the DelDOT complex here in DE, they've recently been doing some work, and they increased the height of the signs.  I'm wondering if it's because DelDOT has a lot of trucks coming in and out?  Are there lots of trucks running through this area?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 21, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
Something about Texas and its fancy sign bridge supports.  However this one in San Antonio really stands out.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48009517522/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 21, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
^^ Those fancy sign gantry supports have been built on newer Wisconsin road projects.  https://goo.gl/maps/VLhKjZGepLmtVLmm9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 21, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
Quote from: Big John on September 21, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
^^ Those fancy sign gantry supports have been built on newer Wisconsin road projects.  https://goo.gl/maps/VLhKjZGepLmtVLmm9

Odd on that one that the outside support is standard truss support and only the median support is fancy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on September 22, 2019, 09:38:23 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2645801,-97.7378587,3a,27.7y,113.9h,103.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIWuORJSLKG67JjQXICR7cQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Bikes yield on green?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 22, 2019, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on September 22, 2019, 09:38:23 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2645801,-97.7378587,3a,27.7y,113.9h,103.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIWuORJSLKG67JjQXICR7cQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Bikes yield on green?

Now that's unique! Appears to have been modified from split-phasing.

The opposite approach has an FYA despite being an "option" lane, although it's probably wise as the cycle path is bi-directional.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on September 23, 2019, 12:23:06 AM
Not sure if this picture adequately captures the oddly large size of this sign (although you can see it requires TWO posts to mount it)....

But they REALLY MEAN STOP!!!  :-D


(https://i.postimg.cc/LsFSMcSL/183-F521-C-7707-4-E74-BEB5-F05-F31-EBA6-A0.jpg)

(Found on W Park Ave in Hamilton, NJ - there’s also one on the opposing corner.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 23, 2019, 09:53:44 PM
I originally put this in the "Worst of" thread and then deleted it because I wasn't sure it was the right place. Ugly unisigns seen on southbound US-1 in the City of Alexandria this afternoon when I was stopped at the red light at Prince Street. The VA-236 shield is particularly hideous, IMO.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190924/d3dedabd0f48ac0f752dfde9701837ac.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 24, 2019, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 17, 2019, 04:59:36 AM
Not sure why this school zone sign is mounted so high up; there wasn't a hill just before this part of US 31W in Horse Cave, Kentucky:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48746544342_0f7c4514b6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hgyMk5)

That's a utility pole installed by the power company.  I wonder if the placement of the sign had something to do with either (a) minimum vertical clearance for the power transmission or else (b) the space allotted for use by the school on a joint utility pole.  I note that the southbound sign is similarly high-mounted on a utility pole.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on September 24, 2019, 11:03:21 PM
There's nothing interesting about the signs themselves, but it's interesting that there are two of them on opposites sides of the road.  Because the road curves, the stop sign on the right is hidden behind a tree.  I guess they don't want to trim that tree, so they just put another stop sign on the left side.

https://goo.gl/maps/HNsix37Lwd8GWAiz5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on September 24, 2019, 11:07:15 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.patternsandprinciples.com%2Frs%2Fsds.jpg&hash=80f814c98550c6f76c9de12772c03d9b5172687c)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on September 24, 2019, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: wxfree on September 24, 2019, 11:03:21 PM
There's nothing interesting about the signs themselves, but it's interesting that there are two of them on opposites sides of the road.  Because the road curves, the stop sign on the right is hidden behind a tree.  I guess they don't want to trim that tree, so they just put another stop sign on the left side.

https://goo.gl/maps/HNsix37Lwd8GWAiz5

Stop signs on both sides of the road are fairly common, at least in Pennsylvania. Here, they're usually only used for added safety where it may be needed like at this intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/VGkzszsZmVWUqsho9). I don't know how often other states do this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on September 26, 2019, 09:29:57 PM
On (unsigned?) Navajo Route 7140 near Gallup NM, the mileposts show miles on one side and kilometers on the other:

(https://i.imgur.com/eecL5qZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on September 26, 2019, 10:01:01 PM
Driving in Texas for the first time last weekend, I saw this clearance sign on US 75. Not sure I've actually seen FT and IN used on a sign before instead of ' and ".

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2F17feet.jpg&hash=737ccbc37a580a7cc044a11747d4589c1bfcced6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on September 26, 2019, 10:21:18 PM
Truth. NM 118 near the Arizona state line:

(https://i.imgur.com/QU6fOHJ.jpg)

It apparently happened way back on July 31, but they don't appear to be in any hurry to clear it. Story:
https://www.abqjournal.com/1347577/boulders-block-road-near-arizona-nm-border.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 27, 2019, 06:40:04 AM
Quote from: Eth on September 26, 2019, 10:01:01 PM
Driving in Texas for the first time last weekend, I saw this clearance sign on US 75. Not sure I've actually seen FT and IN used on a sign before instead of ' and ".

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ften93.com%2Froadphotos%2F17feet.jpg&hash=737ccbc37a580a7cc044a11747d4589c1bfcced6)

Here's another, on I-35 south of Austin:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/524/31517720681_5b9aaf2826_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q27yig)

Quote from: Kniwt on September 26, 2019, 10:21:18 PM
Truth. NM 118 near the Arizona state line:

(https://i.imgur.com/QU6fOHJ.jpg)

It apparently happened way back on July 31, but they don't appear to be in any hurry to clear it. Story:
https://www.abqjournal.com/1347577/boulders-block-road-near-arizona-nm-border.html

Maybe they're hoping it will roll or slide down, and become Arizona's problem.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on September 29, 2019, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on September 23, 2019, 12:23:06 AM
Not sure if this picture adequately captures the oddly large size of this sign (although you can see it requires TWO posts to mount it)....

But they REALLY MEAN STOP!!!  :-D


(image)

(Found on W Park Ave in Hamilton, NJ - there's also one on the opposing corner.)
Yeah we have a few of those on the really rural sections of road in DE (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.5775602,-75.4619535,3a,75y,192.02h,74.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVYDHSh0rZBdP4fI4AsCsoQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) that are seeing increases in traffic (and corresponding increases in crashes, especially fatals).  They sometimes even add lights (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4856779,-75.4783771,3a,36.2y,127.41h,82.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1lRuhcTrixuROG-1T470lQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to the stop sign assemblies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 03, 2019, 06:26:44 PM
Are warning signs really appropriate for a buses only road for an intermodal transit center?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:DeLand_Intermodal_Transport;_Bus_Entrance.jpg

Or should these be something more regulatory?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 04, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 03, 2019, 06:26:44 PM
Or should these be something more regulatory?

Warning!  There is nothing but buses here!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48843817983_3781f623b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqakoP)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 04, 2019, 11:30:22 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48842178151/in/dateposted-public/
I-14 seems to have some signs with the Lone Star on the posts.  I have seem some on bridges in Texarkana and I believe some Houston area bridges as well.

I like this concept.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48842178151/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 05, 2019, 12:10:39 AM
Quote from: kphoger on October 04, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 03, 2019, 06:26:44 PM
Or should these be something more regulatory?

Warning!  There is nothing but buses here!
Oh, I was thinking of something like one of these:

https://www.schoolsignshop.com/do-not-enter-symbol-buses-only-aluminum-sign.html

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:New_Zealand_RG-35_(exclusive).svg


Or maybe something like this, but with black lettering below the red and white circle:
http://ashvegas.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/asheville_transit_system_september_2018.jpg

But okay.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on October 05, 2019, 12:13:18 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

Personally, I like the way MnDOT has been doing it recently, (or maybe a while, I don't pay too much attention to logo signs) with an exit tab. Like this one. (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6090198,-93.3445424,3a,43.3y,58.02h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sv0KrgvKjOLxA-LF4mOivfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Iowa has done them with a similar design, but with the exit part at the bottom, like this one. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7405392,-93.5781146,3a,25y,228.86h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz2RMQ9YmCx9BQwe6XlmQww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 05, 2019, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48843817983_3781f623b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqakoP)

I don't like the use of a hyphen when they should be using an em dash.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on October 05, 2019, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 05, 2019, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48843817983_3781f623b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqakoP)

I don't like the use of a hyphen when they should be using an em dash.
This comment right here sums up the AARoads forum.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 05, 2019, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: csw on October 05, 2019, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 05, 2019, 11:05:10 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48843817983_3781f623b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqakoP)

I don't like the use of a hyphen when they should be using an em dash.
This comment right here sums up the AARoads forum.

Actually, it's more of a minus.

Does the MUTCD make distinctions and allowances for different types of dashes?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 05, 2019, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 05, 2019, 12:13:18 AM
Personally, I like the way MnDOT has been doing it recently, (or maybe a while, I don't pay too much attention to logo signs) with an exit tab. Like this one. (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6090198,-93.3445424,3a,43.3y,58.02h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sv0KrgvKjOLxA-LF4mOivfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I've seen a few of those, and they are MUTCD standard:
https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/SHSe/Guide.pdf

I can't remember where I saw them on logo signs, but I have seen them.  I know for a fact where I've seen them on other motorist service signs, though:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_NB_Exit_33_Sign;_I-95_Point_South,_SC-2.jpg

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48843817983_3781f623b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqakoP)
Here's one with no underline.
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.4913543,-82.248387,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdRagbckFXYqNictB9rMQxA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 06, 2019, 09:21:18 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48843817983_3781f623b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hqakoP)

Driving out I-66 to Linden last night, I noted Virginia has some signs with that separator line and some without. Didn't seem to be any particular pattern to which ones had it and which ones didn't. I did note none of them, regardless of the presence or absence of the line, used a hyphen or a dash–the signs would simply say, for example, "FOOD EXIT 47."

I didn't pay close enough attention to make a mental note of which ones were in which style, and I'm not going to click through Street View looking for them. The ground-mounted signs between the Beltway and Gainesville (a 21-mile stretch) are all in jeopardy anyway as part of the road widening associated with HO/T lane construction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 06, 2019, 09:48:51 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/48849566077/ Eric OK Roads found one and shared on his Flickr.  Don't know if this is common as I never seen a JCT assembly like this before
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on October 06, 2019, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 05, 2019, 12:13:18 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on October 04, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The Good:
I like the horizontal line below FOOD EXIT 12.  The latest logo sign in CT, the earlier ones don't have the line.  I haven't seen it in any other state tho.

Personally, I like the way MnDOT has been doing it recently, (or maybe a while, I don't pay too much attention to logo signs) with an exit tab. Like this one. (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6090198,-93.3445424,3a,43.3y,58.02h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sv0KrgvKjOLxA-LF4mOivfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Iowa has done them with a similar design, but with the exit part at the bottom, like this one. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7405392,-93.5781146,3a,25y,228.86h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sz2RMQ9YmCx9BQwe6XlmQww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
In Delaware we've had a bit of a mix of ways of doing this:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 06, 2019, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 04, 2019, 11:30:22 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48842178151/in/dateposted-public/
I-14 seems to have some signs with the Lone Star on the posts.  I have seem some on bridges in Texarkana and I believe some Houston area bridges as well.

I like this concept.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48842178151/in/dateposted-public/

Reminds me of a gantry I made many years ago for use in sign designs:

(https://i.imgur.com/q3cOCIo.png)

I got flack for them for being "too Texas".  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 11, 2019, 03:30:26 PM
Are these the kinds of signs you only see in National Forests and other isolated places like that?
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1615195,-81.6391243,3a,15y,346.68h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suueKTX-0kF4Omya60_ZqXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1615195,-81.6391243,3a,15y,346.68h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suueKTX-0kF4Omya60_ZqXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Because I saw this in February 2019, and I really wish I took a picture of it.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 11, 2019, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 11, 2019, 03:30:26 PM
Are these the kinds of signs you only see in National Forests and other isolated places like that?
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1615195,-81.6391243,3a,15y,346.68h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suueKTX-0kF4Omya60_ZqXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1615195,-81.6391243,3a,15y,346.68h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suueKTX-0kF4Omya60_ZqXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Because I saw this in February 2019, and I really wish I took a picture of it.

Didn't have the correct plaques at the sign shop, also didn't want to order one...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 21, 2019, 10:35:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48939567831/in/dateposted-public/
A mileage sign in Martin County, FL that uses parentheses next to a route number to capture the city name.  I do not think I have ever seen parentheses used ever before on a mileage sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 22, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 21, 2019, 10:35:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48939567831/in/dateposted-public/
A mileage sign in Martin County, FL that uses parentheses next to a route number to capture the city name.  I do not think I have ever seen parentheses used ever before on a mileage sign.

I think it would've made more sense to use an em dash instead. Or only have one or the other listed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: marleythedog on October 22, 2019, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 22, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 21, 2019, 10:35:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48939567831/in/dateposted-public/
A mileage sign in Martin County, FL that uses parentheses next to a route number to capture the city name.  I do not think I have ever seen parentheses used ever before on a mileage sign.

I think it would've made more sense to use an em dash instead. Or only have one or the other listed.

Or the county road shield followed by the city name. I think I've seen that done in other places.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 22, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: marleythedog on October 22, 2019, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 22, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 21, 2019, 10:35:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48939567831/in/dateposted-public/
A mileage sign in Martin County, FL that uses parentheses next to a route number to capture the city name.  I do not think I have ever seen parentheses used ever before on a mileage sign.

I think it would've made more sense to use an em dash instead. Or only have one or the other listed.

Or the county road shield followed by the city name. I think I've seen that done in other places.
Florida's Turnpike uses US and State route shields with a city.  FDOT D-5 has it in Marion County for US 27 and Ocala going SB on I-75.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 23, 2019, 09:37:35 AM
How about this one here.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48942280223/in/dateposted-public/
Two guides side by side and one with an unusual 3 miles out guide.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 24, 2019, 03:00:37 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 23, 2019, 09:37:35 AM
How about this one here.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48942280223/in/dateposted-public/
Two guides side by side and one with an unusual 3 miles out guide.

Whoa.. that's wild!

Also, shouldn't the closer exit be on the right? Unless maybe it has something to do with them being side mounted or something idk. I've never seen anything like that
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 24, 2019, 06:40:42 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 23, 2019, 09:37:35 AM
How about this one here.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48942280223/in/dateposted-public/
Two guides side by side and one with an unusual 3 miles out guide.

I've wondered about that pair for a while...perhaps it's because there's two exits close together, instead of the usual 4-10 mile gap between them in that area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 25, 2019, 09:36:00 AM
They both need to be on an overhead assembly to do what they do.  NJ does that a lot where two advanced guides are on one overhead with the farthest to the left and the nearest to the right.

Yes I often wondered too, why is Exit 102's guide on the left and not right as it would on an overhead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on October 27, 2019, 05:30:19 PM
Rest In Peace, Mr. Silverstein. They'll know to walk with a walk that is measured and slow...

(https://i.postimg.cc/mDnYW1px/19850-D2-E-DEA5-4-B90-A26-F-0-F23-E806-FF34.jpg)

You think if you fall here, you fall up?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 28, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on October 27, 2019, 05:30:19 PM
Rest In Peace, Mr. Silverstein. They'll know to walk with a walk that is measured and slow...

(https://i.postimg.cc/mDnYW1px/19850-D2-E-DEA5-4-B90-A26-F-0-F23-E806-FF34.jpg)

You think if you fall here, you fall up?

You only fall up if the traffic light in the attic is green.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on October 28, 2019, 11:48:30 AM
Since it's been brought up, there's a similar, albeit more pithy, sign on 86th St in Urbandale, IA, at the I-35/80 interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/yvpQqbF.jpg)

Honestly, I'm not sure why the sidewalks continue to the ramps if there aren't sidewalks across the freeway. Maybe someday there will be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on October 28, 2019, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 28, 2019, 11:48:30 AM
Since it's been brought up, there's a similar, albeit more pithy, sign on 86th St in Urbandale, IA, at the I-35/80 interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/yvpQqbF.jpg)

Honestly, I'm not sure why the sidewalks continue to the ramps if there aren't sidewalks across the freeway. Maybe someday there will be.
Could have just been part of another project They typically make all the new developments around here install sidewalks on any major road for their entire frontage as part of the approval, so we have lots of areas around here scattered with stretches of sidwalks that lead absolutely nowhere. I guess after enough time goes by and areas redevelop, they will eventually connect to things.

When I lived in South Florida, I believe a typical intersection install included the ramps and pedestrian signals even if there were no sidewalks on any roads around it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 28, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 28, 2019, 11:48:30 AM
Since it's been brought up, there's a similar, albeit more pithy, sign on 86th St in Urbandale, IA, at the I-35/80 interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/yvpQqbF.jpg)

Honestly, I'm not sure why the sidewalks continue to the ramps if there aren't sidewalks across the freeway. Maybe someday there will be.

I can see from Google Maps that there is an accompanying sidewalk on the other side of the interchange, also on the west side, with a similar "SIDEWALK ENDS" sign.

Interesting that the northern stretch of sidewalk was there before they added the loops, but they didn't bother to add in the sidewalk over the bridge at the same time (especially if the southern stretch of sidewalk, constructed in 2013, was already planned). Not very "urban" of Urbandale, if I do say so myself! It's not like the bridge isn't wide enough to support a sidewalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on October 28, 2019, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 28, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
I can see from Google Maps that there is an accompanying sidewalk on the other side of the interchange, also on the west side, with a similar "SIDEWALK ENDS" sign.

Interesting that the northern stretch of sidewalk was there before they added the loops, but they didn't bother to add in the sidewalk over the bridge at the same time (especially if the southern stretch of sidewalk, constructed in 2013, was already planned). Not very "urban" of Urbandale, if I do say so myself! It's not like the bridge isn't wide enough to support a sidewalk.

I would guess that the cities of both Urbandale and Johnston (the Interstate is the boundary between them–Urbandale to the south and Johnston to the north) figured the sidewalk problem was IowaDOT's problem, since they maintain the overpass. Kind of shitty, but that's how it goes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 28, 2019, 11:05:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 25, 2019, 09:36:00 AM
They both need to be on an overhead assembly to do what they do.
That was the first thing I was thinking.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on October 29, 2019, 11:29:23 PM
In Saguaro National Park near Tucson, a somewhat graphic warning sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/SEpbz7h.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 30, 2019, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on October 28, 2019, 04:27:20 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on October 28, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
I can see from Google Maps that there is an accompanying sidewalk on the other side of the interchange, also on the west side, with a similar "SIDEWALK ENDS" sign.

Interesting that the northern stretch of sidewalk was there before they added the loops, but they didn't bother to add in the sidewalk over the bridge at the same time (especially if the southern stretch of sidewalk, constructed in 2013, was already planned). Not very "urban" of Urbandale, if I do say so myself! It's not like the bridge isn't wide enough to support a sidewalk.

I would guess that the cities of both Urbandale and Johnston (the Interstate is the boundary between them–Urbandale to the south and Johnston to the north) figured the sidewalk problem was IowaDOT's problem, since they maintain the overpass. Kind of shitty, but that's how it goes.

You likely know this, being from DSM, but Johnston and Urbandale don't exactly coordinate well along the municipal border.  Don't stay at a hotel near the border on Merle Hay Road, for example, because the police in each jurisdiction would much rather leave things to the other one to handle, so patrolling is lax.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 02:58:35 AM
Spotted this on the grounds of the old Riverview Hospital in Coquitlam, BC on Saturday (filming location for "Deadpool 2" and "Happy Gilmore", among others).

I don't know how unique it truly is, but I don't know of any others:

(https://i.imgur.com/i6uKbsP.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on November 04, 2019, 08:58:24 AM
Here's the only one I've ever found, in Roanoke, VA, a few weeks ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/TPXVaqu.jpg)
Located here https://goo.gl/maps/fc1ECY6hssQQEM3y9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bluenoser on November 04, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here you go...in my hometown of Amherst, NS (intersection of Croft St, Wellington St, Central Ave, E Pleasant St (which goes across the intersection), and Poplar St; photo is at the end of Croft):

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Andrew T. on November 04, 2019, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 02:58:35 AM
I don't know how unique it truly is, but I don't know of any others:

I distinctly remember seeing "5-Way" plaques posted at this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1028404,-87.653367,3a,75y,114.55h,75.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stRtqFEyhQlNbF-K8NWs7Hw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Manitowoc, Wisconsin when I visited in the 1990s! Unfortunately I didn't carry a camera back then, and the signage had been changed to the generic "All Way" legend when I returned in the mid-2000s.  :angry:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on November 04, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here you go...in my hometown of Amherst, NS (intersection of Croft St, Wellington St, Central Ave, E Pleasant St (which goes across the intersection), and Poplar St; photo is at the end of Croft):

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

How did I know, without reading your profile or virtually any of your post, that it was in Canada? :-D

Quote from: Andrew T. on November 04, 2019, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 02:58:35 AM
I don't know how unique it truly is, but I don't know of any others:

I distinctly remember seeing "5-Way" plaques posted at this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1028404,-87.653367,3a,75y,114.55h,75.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stRtqFEyhQlNbF-K8NWs7Hw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Manitowoc, Wisconsin when I visited in the 1990s! Unfortunately I didn't carry a camera back then, and the signage had been changed to the generic "All Way" legend when I returned in the mid-2000s.  :angry:

If I'm not mistaken, all plaques now use the "All-Way" legend. Which is too bad! I like these numeric ones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on November 04, 2019, 01:08:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on November 04, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here you go...in my hometown of Amherst, NS (intersection of Croft St, Wellington St, Central Ave, E Pleasant St (which goes across the intersection), and Poplar St; photo is at the end of Croft):

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

How did I know, without reading your profile or virtually any of your post, that it was in Canada? :-D

Probably the username.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: Bluenoser on November 04, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here you go...in my hometown of Amherst, NS (intersection of Croft St, Wellington St, Central Ave, E Pleasant St (which goes across the intersection), and Poplar St; photo is at the end of Croft):

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8258575,-64.2027265,3a,15y,182.35h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCMydj-89ypOwXgx2pg3Oew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

How did I know, without reading your profile or virtually any of your post, that it was in Canada? :-D

Quote from: Andrew T. on November 04, 2019, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 02:58:35 AM
I don't know how unique it truly is, but I don't know of any others:

I distinctly remember seeing "5-Way" plaques posted at this intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1028404,-87.653367,3a,75y,114.55h,75.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stRtqFEyhQlNbF-K8NWs7Hw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Manitowoc, Wisconsin when I visited in the 1990s! Unfortunately I didn't carry a camera back then, and the signage had been changed to the generic "All Way" legend when I returned in the mid-2000s.  :angry:

If I'm not mistaken, all plaques now use the "All-Way" legend. Which is too bad! I like these numeric ones.

The MUTCD now requires all-way, but there are loads of old 2/3/4-way plaques on local streets in my area. Lebanon has plenty of all-way stops, and I don't think there's a single "all-way" plaque. The surrounding townships are similar, and even a few intersections on PennDOT roads still use numbered plaques, though these are older setups.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on November 05, 2019, 04:31:00 PM
Something about the design of this just seems off...

(https://i.imgur.com/nex6iun.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on November 05, 2019, 05:29:06 PM
Doing the splits in Indianapolis
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4891/45984440152_85a8519f33_z_d.jpg)

45/52nd of a highway in Kankakee, IL
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4896/43995302400_1bb16cbfd7_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on November 05, 2019, 07:39:31 PM
I saw one of the Indy interstate signs back in the summer of 2010, close to Victory Field (baseball stadium).
(https://i.imgur.com/kvsX8at.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on November 05, 2019, 09:02:06 PM
Oh don't you worry, they're everywhere in the downtown area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 05, 2019, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 04, 2019, 02:58:35 AM
Spotted this on the grounds of the old Riverview Hospital in Coquitlam, BC on Saturday (filming location for "Deadpool 2" and "Happy Gilmore", among others).

I don't know how unique it truly is, but I don't know of any others:

(https://i.imgur.com/i6uKbsP.jpg)
I know of an intersection in the Lake Ronkonkoma/Lake Grove area that would have this if the Town of Brookhaven hadn't installed traffic signals nearly 40-odd years ago.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 05, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
Vicksburg Road, the connector between I-10 and AZ 72. I believe there's a slightly more standard sign for this. :)

(https://i.imgur.com/urhWltO.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 06, 2019, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on November 05, 2019, 11:43:39 PM
Vicksburg Road, the connector between I-10 and AZ 72. I believe there's a slightly more standard sign for this. :)

(https://i.imgur.com/urhWltO.png)

That said, having drive that curve dozens of times that sign really means business whereas most 35 MPH advisories are tend to overplay the curvature. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 06, 2019, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here's one in Cincinnati, OH (https://goo.gl/maps/BfpSwX1ApR8TRUBN8).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 07, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 06, 2019, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here's one in Cincinnati, OH (https://goo.gl/maps/BfpSwX1ApR8TRUBN8).
Let's be honest, that "emergency vehicle" sign in the corner is the real point of interest in that photo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on November 07, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: ipeters61 on November 07, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 06, 2019, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on November 04, 2019, 10:25:37 AM
I wonder if any six-way signs exist...

Here's one in Cincinnati, OH (https://goo.gl/maps/BfpSwX1ApR8TRUBN8).
Let's be honest, that "emergency vehicle" sign in the corner is the real point of interest in that photo.
Even more unique at that same intersection is this CAUTION BLIND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGN (https://goo.gl/maps/cAhUHqXy4VC7eUtH6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 07, 2019, 09:47:58 PM
The road is no longer a toll, but would it have been correct to sign two junctions on either side of a toll bridge equally as "last exit" options?

201 St/Station Road at Golden Ears Way, Langley, BC (https://goo.gl/maps/VXndjCx1pdjTT1g19)

(https://i.imgur.com/WbEDHJU.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 07, 2019, 10:11:23 PM
Hm.  When I was a kid (late '70s), Bloomington, IN was peppered with various numbered way stop signs.  Wonder of there was a fiver in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 08, 2019, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 07, 2019, 09:47:58 PM
The road is no longer a toll, but would it have been correct to sign two junctions on either side of a toll bridge equally as "last exit" options?

201 St/Station Road at Golden Ears Way, Langley, BC (https://goo.gl/maps/VXndjCx1pdjTT1g19)

(https://i.imgur.com/WbEDHJU.png)
Considering that both roads leave at the same spot, I'm not sure what better way there would be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on November 10, 2019, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 08, 2019, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 07, 2019, 09:47:58 PM
The road is no longer a toll, but would it have been correct to sign two junctions on either side of a toll bridge equally as "last exit" options?

201 St/Station Road at Golden Ears Way, Langley, BC (https://goo.gl/maps/VXndjCx1pdjTT1g19)

(https://i.imgur.com/WbEDHJU.png)
Considering that both roads leave at the same spot, I'm not sure what better way there would be.

Even if not a toll, it is helpful to have a last exit before bridge sign, particularly if you are crossing a relatively wide river.

I wish there was more warning signage along 14th St in Washington DC that you have to turn before you are forced onto traffic heading over the bridge to Virginia.

Here is the general area:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8879073,-77.0320082,3a,75y,182.41h,90.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smbmr1LKz4k-ihNeXxam6ug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Now, what is particularly crazy is that there are two tourist attractions along 14th St here, where people may drop off passengers going to the Holocaust Museum or the Bureau of Engraving and Printing while they circle back to look for legal parking.  But it isn't marked well at all that if you don't make the right on Independence, or the left onto C at the next block, you don't have any place to exit until you are in Virigina and your first option is the GW Pkwy.  I made this mistake myself when I was a new resident in the area, dropping off my parents in front of the building and thinking that I would just make a right and a right to stay in town to try to find a metered spot within a few blocks.  (There is still one private driveway that used to be D Street that reaches 15th, but you can't use it if you are not a BEP employee.  There are also no exit ramps in East Potomac Park.)

If you do make this mistake, the best option is to take the ramp for GW Pkwy south towards Reagan Airport which will lead to an option to go back on the bridge towards DC.  But given bridge traffic, this mistake could take you an hour out of your way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 10, 2019, 03:43:57 PM
If you go just down the road on 14th Street from where you mention, you'll find this sign referring to "PEDESTIRANS" that's either a gem or an abomination, depending on how you feel about misspellings. (At least they spelled "bicycles" correctly. On Friday afternoon I walked past the assembly on Vermont Avenue that has two signs referring to "bicylces." Been that way for several years.)

https://goo.gl/maps/nAWsTVB7WHt6BVNDA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on November 11, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2019, 03:43:57 PM
If you go just down the road on 14th Street from where you mention, you'll find this sign referring to "PEDESTIRANS" that's either a gem or an abomination, depending on how you feel about misspellings.
https://goo.gl/maps/nAWsTVB7WHt6BVNDA
At least it's only a letter flipped, not severely misspelled.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 11, 2019, 08:02:43 PM
Tucson:
(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/34/234ee874-9cd0-5cb1-966c-b69362977370/5dc9b2fc1d2cf.image.jpg)

Details:
https://tucson.com/news/local/rare-bad-sign-creates-nightmare-on-st-street-but-only/article_5407507e-dc36-5a4d-a1b9-fa4b167cf8df.html

QuoteIt runs from one side of Tucson to the other, but 19th Street is at its 19thiest where it crosses a quiet stretch of Campbell Avenue east of Kino Parkway.

There’s a sign for it and everything.

Right at the corner, directly in front of an auto repair shop called Accurate Service, a misprinted city of Tucson street sign identifies the road as “19st St.”

City officials insist such errors are rare, and this one will soon be corrected. But that hasn’t stopped snarky online commenters from having some fun at the city’s expense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 11, 2019, 08:36:37 PM
^^^^^^
Alright, I'm putting my foot down. Why do road signs even use ordinal indicators? Where I grew up, they are not used. People still say the ordinal indicator, but you don't absolutely need to put them on the sign. I can understand if the legal street names include the ordinal indicator, but otherwise, what's the point? Errors like this are rare, sure, but they can't happen in areas that don't use the indicator!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:23 AM
^ Because that's the name of the street? Most places the name of the street is "19th", not "19".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2019, 04:25:06 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:23 AM
^ Because that's the name of the street? Most places the name of the street is "19th", not "19".

Understood, hence my exception for that situation. But I've never understood that to be the norm. Seems quite odd to me, for a legal street name to include fussy things like ordinal indicators.

For example, I live next to "S 4th St", but when doing parcel research, I must write "S 4 St" because the "th" is not legally part of the street name. It's only on the street blade for beautification purposes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 12, 2019, 05:57:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2019, 04:25:06 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:23 AM
^ Because that's the name of the street? Most places the name of the street is "19th", not "19".

Understood, hence my exception for that situation. But I've never understood that to be the norm. Seems quite odd to me, for a legal street name to include fussy things like ordinal indicators.

For example, I live next to "S 4th St", but when doing parcel research, I must write "S 4 St" because the "th" is not legally part of the street name. It's only on the street blade for beautification purposes.

The legal name is South Four Street, not South Fourth Street?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 12, 2019, 06:09:44 AM
What an odd thing to get worked up about.

Then again, I must remember the userbase I'm talking about... :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on November 12, 2019, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 12, 2019, 05:57:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2019, 04:25:06 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:23 AM
^ Because that's the name of the street? Most places the name of the street is "19th", not "19".

Understood, hence my exception for that situation. But I've never understood that to be the norm. Seems quite odd to me, for a legal street name to include fussy things like ordinal indicators.

For example, I live next to "S 4th St", but when doing parcel research, I must write "S 4 St" because the "th" is not legally part of the street name. It's only on the street blade for beautification purposes.

The legal name is South Four Street, not South Fourth Street?
How does NYC do it?  I know they always use just the direction, number, and street type (e.g. 3 Av, E 68 St) (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7673369,-73.9624446,3a,15y,264.66h,96.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ihIrFNE_EFbS0T2pGOOXA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  Does that mean something like 129 W 81st St is legally 129 W 81 St?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 12, 2019, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 12, 2019, 05:57:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2019, 04:25:06 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:23 AM
^ Because that's the name of the street? Most places the name of the street is "19th", not "19".

Understood, hence my exception for that situation. But I've never understood that to be the norm. Seems quite odd to me, for a legal street name to include fussy things like ordinal indicators.

For example, I live next to "S 4th St", but when doing parcel research, I must write "S 4 St" because the "th" is not legally part of the street name. It's only on the street blade for beautification purposes.

The legal name is South Four Street, not South Fourth Street?

Actually, I'm wrong! Things have changed. The county auditor used to be quite strict about not using the ordinal indicator, but things have changed. Legal documents online now use the ordinal indicator. This is definitely not how things used to be. I don't know what this means as far as what the "legal street name" actually is, but it's long been accepted that the ordinal indicator was optional (at least in my area).

That said, most street signs, at least in unincorporated areas around me, do not use the ordinal indicator on signage, and a fair number of freeway signs (https://goo.gl/maps/Cem5DckHdPgwLbKj7) (in Pierce County) omit the ordinal indicators as well. I understood this to be acceptable because the street numbers don't legally use the ordinal indicator, but my research on that matter is less than conclusive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 12, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
And this one from Reno:
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/11/02/PREN/3b6429d4-e41d-4352-b14c-826c8fe3f3f8-Misspelled_sign.jpg)

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2019/11/01/oops-reno-makes-unfortunate-spelling-error-new-virginia-st-signs/4134695002/

QuoteIf a Reno contractor were to, say, forget the letter 'i' when printing new signs for the reconstructed Virginia Street through Midtown, you'd hope it would be the first 'i' or maybe the second 'i.'

Sadly, it forgot the third one, resulting in a slightly R-rated spelling error for signs on three popular intersections.

The misspelling came to light when the owner of Craft Wine and Beer, on the corner of Martin and South Virginia streets, posted a photo of it on Instagram.

"I would like to thank the City of Reno for the Virgina Street Rebrand," the bar's post read.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 12, 2019, 10:21:16 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 11, 2019, 08:36:37 PM
^^^^^^
Alright, I'm putting my foot down. Why do road signs even use ordinal indicators? Where I grew up, they are not used. People still say the ordinal indicator, but you don't absolutely need to put them on the sign. I can understand if the legal street names include the ordinal indicator, but otherwise, what's the point? Errors like this are rare, sure, but they can't happen in areas that don't use the indicator!
In Reno, they are part of the street name. In fact, most of our signs spell it out. I've always thought that was a little weird, especially when you get to "Fourteenth" (why not "14th"?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2019, 03:28:28 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 12, 2019, 10:21:16 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 11, 2019, 08:36:37 PM
^^^^^^
Alright, I'm putting my foot down. Why do road signs even use ordinal indicators? Where I grew up, they are not used. People still say the ordinal indicator, but you don't absolutely need to put them on the sign. I can understand if the legal street names include the ordinal indicator, but otherwise, what's the point? Errors like this are rare, sure, but they can't happen in areas that don't use the indicator!
In Reno, they are part of the street name. In fact, most of our signs spell it out. I've always thought that was a little weird, especially when you get to "Fourteenth" (why not "14th"?)

I could learn to live with the ordinal indicator, but I'm not sure I could handle spelled-out numbers like that ("fourteenth", etc). Just so...gaudy, and almost certainly less helpful at-speed. Glad I can't think of any cities in my area that do that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2019, 03:31:44 AM
Quote from: mrsman on November 10, 2019, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 08, 2019, 12:48:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 07, 2019, 09:47:58 PM
The road is no longer a toll, but would it have been correct to sign two junctions on either side of a toll bridge equally as "last exit" options?

201 St/Station Road at Golden Ears Way, Langley, BC (https://goo.gl/maps/VXndjCx1pdjTT1g19)

(https://i.imgur.com/WbEDHJU.png)
Considering that both roads leave at the same spot, I'm not sure what better way there would be.

Even if not a toll, it is helpful to have a last exit before bridge sign, particularly if you are crossing a relatively wide river.

Yeah, this all makes sense. I think with both exits being equal, there's really no way to sign just one. My thought was that they both can't be the "last exit", so something else might be needed. Perhaps like "NO TOLL" or something along those lines. I don't know if that kind of wording would be allowed in the US, but the TAC seems pretty forgiving.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 13, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
I believe in Watervliet, NY, they also spell out the numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on November 13, 2019, 08:11:43 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 13, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
I believe in Watervliet, NY, they also spell out the numbers.

There's a set of numbered avenues in Decatur, GA, which are spelled out on signs (First through Fifth), but when they cross the border into Atlanta, that city signs them as ordinals (1st through 5th).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on November 13, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
In the GIS database for Massachusetts, street names are spelled out in full, so a street blade of "S Tarbur St" would be in the database as "SOUTH TARBUR STREET". For numbered streets, numbers 10 and above have the numeral, while 1-9 are spelled out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on November 13, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
Quote from: 1 on November 13, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
...For numbered streets, numbers 10 and above have the numeral, while 1-9 are spelled out.

This is also proper writing style, I believe.  In books, magazines, newspapers, etc, you're supposed to write out one thru nine, but just use numbers starting with 10.

On the street, I think it's easier to comprehend just using numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 13, 2019, 08:53:56 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 13, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
This is also proper writing style, I believe.  In books, magazines, newspapers, etc, you're supposed to write out one thru nine, but just use numbers starting with 10.

I was taught one through ten should be spelled out, and eleven and above can be numerals (unless it starts the sentence, in which case you're supposed to write out all numbers.) Out of habit, though, I write out all numbers zero through twelve, just because I think it looks nicer. Arbitrary, I know.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 13, 2019, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 13, 2019, 08:36:07 AMThis is also proper writing style, I believe.  In books, magazines, newspapers, etc, you're supposed to write out one thru nine, but just use numbers starting with 10.

This varies.  For most journalism (newspapers, magazines, etc.), the divide is two digits, but for books it is commonly three digits (100 and above).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brandon on November 13, 2019, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 12, 2019, 04:25:06 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2019, 04:13:23 AM
^ Because that's the name of the street? Most places the name of the street is "19th", not "19".

Understood, hence my exception for that situation. But I've never understood that to be the norm. Seems quite odd to me, for a legal street name to include fussy things like ordinal indicators.

For example, I live next to "S 4th St", but when doing parcel research, I must write "S 4 St" because the "th" is not legally part of the street name. It's only on the street blade for beautification purposes.

In northeastern Illinois, it is legally part of the street name, i.e. 135th Street or 96th Avenue, and is always on the street signs and in the addresses.  It's strange not to have it, IMHO.

Examples:
I-355 at 159th Street: https://goo.gl/maps/8PgDdgHbDZczemzr8
159th Street and 94th Avenue: https://goo.gl/maps/DZ8SeGaYM3jcMbyHA & https://goo.gl/maps/f5EoCrNENQUi42xK8
Halsted and 95th Street: https://goo.gl/maps/8Bk9Mtny5WfGE2TC6
Vernon Avenue and 63rd Street: https://goo.gl/maps/daqNMSxjsjW2PVSv6
63rd Street Metra Electric Station: https://goo.gl/maps/9eEs8Th2F3Egt4kq8
87th Street CTA Red Line Station: https://goo.gl/maps/kPZTtCqWvGnsTE8H7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 13, 2019, 02:26:40 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 13, 2019, 12:38:45 PM
In northeastern Illinois, it is legally part of the street name

I'm well aware that many municipalities do include the ordinal indicator as part of the legal street name. I said as much in my original post:

Quote from: jakeroot on November 11, 2019, 08:36:37 PM
....you don't absolutely need to put them on the sign. I can understand if the legal street names include the ordinal indicator, but otherwise....

Though, to be honest, it doesn't seem like the ordinal indicator is absolutely necessary on signage, even if the legal street name includes it (at least not in my area). Judging by tax records and parcel information available to me online through both King County and Pierce County websites (Washington's two largest counties), the legal street names around here do include the ordinal indicator, but in unincorporated areas, as well as in some cities, the ordinal indicator is not used on street blade signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 13, 2019, 02:34:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2019, 02:26:40 PM
Though, to be honest, it doesn't seem like the ordinal indicator is absolutely necessary on signage, even if the legal street name includes it

IMO, if it's part of the legal name, it should be on the sign, period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 13, 2019, 04:50:37 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on November 13, 2019, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 13, 2019, 08:36:07 AMThis is also proper writing style, I believe.  In books, magazines, newspapers, etc, you're supposed to write out one thru nine, but just use numbers starting with 10.

This varies.  For most journalism (newspapers, magazines, etc.), the divide is two digits, but for books it is commonly three digits (100 and above).

AP style is to spell out zero through nine, and use numbers for 10 and above.

For ordinals, though, it varies. Congressional districts are numbers in all uses -- 5th District, not Fifth. Not sure about other ordinals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 14, 2019, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 13, 2019, 02:34:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 13, 2019, 02:26:40 PM
Though, to be honest, it doesn't seem like the ordinal indicator is absolutely necessary on signage, even if the legal street name includes it

IMO, if it's part of the legal name, it should be on the sign, period.

Coming from an area where it's (apparently) quite normal, people still add on the ordinal indicator in speech and in writing anyways. I think it looks quite a bit cleaner without the extra bits:

(https://i.imgur.com/mrgBb5f.png) (https://i.imgur.com/EZHiwrk.png) (https://i.imgur.com/V1xZzt8.png)

The first image is from the Vancouver area, where I believe the legal street names do not, in fact, have the ordinal indicator. So those signs are correct in not using them. The latter two photos are from Pierce County, WA, which does apparently use the ordinal indicator as part of the legal street number, but negates its use on street signage. At any rate, I think all three signs are more easily readable than those that use ordinal indicators. Because, let's be honest: the most important thing is the street number, not the ordinal indicator.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 14, 2019, 04:55:00 AM
If you say "I'm at the corner of Five Street and Thirty-One Avenue" you sound like you've been hit on the head a few too many times.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 14, 2019, 05:17:53 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 14, 2019, 04:55:00 AM
If you say "I'm at the corner of Five Street and Thirty-One Avenue" you sound like you've been hit on the head a few too many times.

Perhaps for lower numbered streets, but not as much for higher-numbered streets. "One-forty-four Street" vs "One-forty-fourth Street", for example. Both sound quite similar.

But again, no one says "five street and thirty-one avenue". That's just how it's written on the street blade. Why? I guess to keep it clean, or because the counties don't do it. Something, I don't know. Whatever the reason, I'm definitely fine with it. I think it looks better without the ordinal indicator, personally.



As long as we're on the topic; do most counties/cities/states across the country use the ordinal indicator on their signage? I know places like NYC don't use it, which is a fairly famous example, but I can't readily think of other places. Just so happens that the places where I spend most of my time (PNW) do not use it (for the most part).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 14, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
Going from what I remember, "104th" is pronounced in Oklahoma City as "a hundred n' fourth"*, and "122nd" as "[a] hundred [n'] twenty-second". "Street" is usually dropped but the ordinal retained. We don't have any major streets above 200th, so I have no idea what we'd do there.

The ordinal indicator is consistently used on signs throughout Oklahoma, Kansas and Missouri. Sometimes it will be omitted on things like construction signs, and it looks weird and wrong.

*or, if you're really wanting to save syllables and into this whole Southern Plains accent thing, "a hunnerd'n'fourth".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 14, 2019, 11:15:19 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on November 13, 2019, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 13, 2019, 08:36:07 AMThis is also proper writing style, I believe.  In books, magazines, newspapers, etc, you're supposed to write out one thru nine, but just use numbers starting with 10.

This varies.  For most journalism (newspapers, magazines, etc.), the divide is two digits, but for books it is commonly three digits (100 and above).

Then, not that you asked, there's Chicago style, in which you spell out all numbers that consist of one or two words, as well as those numbers that that consist of one or two words followed by hundred, thousand, million, billion, and so on. And on top of that, there's a usage mixing words and digits, such as 127 million, 5 billion, and so on, which is often appropriate as well. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 15, 2019, 12:00:09 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 14, 2019, 05:05:03 PM
We don't have any major streets above 200th, so I have no idea what we'd do there.

In my experience, it's the same way we treat the 100-series streets: first number by itself (eg. "two"), and then the following two numbers grouped together with an ordinal indicator (eg. "twenty-fourth"). As an example, this road (https://goo.gl/maps/Y8JzEZmsEwp4S7Sv7) is "two twenty-fourth" ("street" being optional, something I failed to mention before).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on November 16, 2019, 01:04:44 PM
I prefer ordinals to be used on numeral street names (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc). Bare numerals alone looks weird. The only problem is neither Series Gothic or Clearview has any "expert" character sets to optically treat ordinals in a superscript manner or other treatment. Quite a few advanced OpenType font families have their own native treatments of ordinals. Some fonts underline the ordinal glyphs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 16, 2019, 04:52:03 PM
I've never understood the perceived need for the "n"  and the "r"  in the ordinals for "second"  and "third."  No doubt part of my feeling is because "2d"  and "3d"  are standard in legal citation. Some media outlets, notably the New York Times, and some style guides, notably the Chicago Manual of Style, have traditionally used "2d"  and "3d"  (and similar forms for other references, such as the 63d Street Tunnel in New York), though I think the Times may have changed their standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on November 16, 2019, 06:09:06 PM
The terms "2d" and "3d" in popular culture mean something entirely different from second and third. If I see the term "3d" used in something I automatically think "three dimensional."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 16, 2019, 07:47:03 PM
That would be "2D"  and "3D,"  both with the "d"  capitalized.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on November 16, 2019, 08:27:31 PM
Consistency. "st"  and "th"  are both two letters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 16, 2019, 09:27:38 PM
If two letters is too many, perhaps we could switch to French (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1712361,-70.6867182,3a,15.2y,156.94h,90.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRrQkx5dW9HmV0ewdqmyaTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on November 17, 2019, 04:46:34 AM
Quote from: vdeane on November 16, 2019, 09:27:38 PM
If two letters is too many, perhaps we could switch to French (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.1712361,-70.6867182,3a,15.2y,156.94h,90.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRrQkx5dW9HmV0ewdqmyaTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

I took a couple steps back from that shot, and discovered that Québec uses rather colorful reference markers (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.171775,-70.6872494,3a,30y,224.41h,84.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stuudgSkLJeRXgQF3VQomjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 17, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
I like this one on I-90 north of Deadwood, SD.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4756733,-103.747867,3a,15y,105.56h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUP3dp62AgnbznUUIQDLBxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4756733,-103.747867,3a,15y,105.56h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUP3dp62AgnbznUUIQDLBxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

The little park banner beneath it makes it a little less ordinary.






Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 18, 2019, 10:30:45 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49084487153/in/dateposted-public/
Martin County, FL's attempt at a mileage sign in three pieces and arranged backwards.  The farthest should be the last but here its first while closest is last.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 19, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49088319666/in/dateposted-public/
This crazy diagramical signs are along some I-95 interchanges in District 4 showing the ramps configurations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 19, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 19, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49088319666/in/dateposted-public/

These crazy diagrammatical signs are along some I-95 interchanges in District 4 showing the ramps configurations.

This looks like Florida DOT's version of Zwahlen signs (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/245560974_Viewing_Ground-Mounted_Diagrammatic_Guide_Signs_Before_Entrance_Ramps_at_Night_Driver_Eye_Scanning_Behavior), which were pioneered in Ohio and are used extensively there (typical example (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.689179,-83.6230835,3a,75y,182.08h,86.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-jWg4nnwlAAx-lrHH4SRKw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on November 20, 2019, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on November 11, 2019, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2019, 03:43:57 PM
If you go just down the road on 14th Street from where you mention, you'll find this sign referring to "PEDESTIRANS" that's either a gem or an abomination, depending on how you feel about misspellings.
https://goo.gl/maps/nAWsTVB7WHt6BVNDA
At least it's only a letter flipped, not severely misspelled.
Despite the misspelling, it may be the only warning you have that you are entering a freeway, but again too late as far as being able to exit.  This would be a good candidate for a "freeway entrance" sign that is common in CA and a few other western states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on November 20, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2019, 03:43:57 PM
If you go just down the road on 14th Street from where you mention, you'll find this sign referring to "PEDESTIRANS" that's either a gem or an abomination, depending on how you feel about misspellings. (At least they spelled "bicycles" correctly. On Friday afternoon I walked past the assembly on Vermont Avenue that has two signs referring to "bicylces." Been that way for several years.)

https://goo.gl/maps/nAWsTVB7WHt6BVNDA

The ugliest misspelling I've ever seen was this one in Salt Lake, which GSV missed but I was able to get a (grainy) photo of. Pretty sure it's still up:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/806/40903541962_3e84222fa4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25jvkY7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 20, 2019, 09:38:38 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on November 19, 2019, 11:36:16 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 19, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49088319666/in/dateposted-public/

These crazy diagrammatical signs are along some I-95 interchanges in District 4 showing the ramps configurations.

This looks like Florida DOT's version of Zwahlen signs (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/245560974_Viewing_Ground-Mounted_Diagrammatic_Guide_Signs_Before_Entrance_Ramps_at_Night_Driver_Eye_Scanning_Behavior), which were pioneered in Ohio and are used extensively there (typical example (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.689179,-83.6230835,3a,75y,182.08h,86.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-jWg4nnwlAAx-lrHH4SRKw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).

I really like those. I wish California would use something like that. There doesn't seem to be any convention about how they sign junctions and which side of the road is which, so it's always a guessing game in unfamiliar areas.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on November 21, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
This sign near Spencer OK is a mind f***. It says "Silver Creek Bridge Prohibited Not To Exceed 15 Tons". What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is it prohibited to be under 15 tons? Kinda sounds like it to me

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on November 21, 2019, 01:11:32 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on November 21, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
This sign near Spencer OK is a mind f***. It says "Silver Creek Bridge Prohibited Not To Exceed 15 Tons". What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is it prohibited to be under 15 tons? Kinda sounds like it to me

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Tried to sound all smart; ended up making word salad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on November 21, 2019, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on November 21, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
This sign near Spencer OK is a mind f***. It says "Silver Creek Bridge Prohibited Not To Exceed 15 Tons". What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is it prohibited to be under 15 tons? Kinda sounds like it to me

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

The bridge itself is required to weigh more than 15 tons at all times. Sounds difficult to enforce, but I wish them luck.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 21, 2019, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: US 89 on November 20, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
The ugliest misspelling I've ever seen was this one in Salt Lake, which GSV missed but I was able to get a (grainy) photo of. Pretty sure it's still up:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/806/40903541962_3e84222fa4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25jvkY7)

As I seriously doubt there is a definition of "vehical" in the state statutes, perhaps it's unenforceable.



Quote from: Eth on November 21, 2019, 09:41:30 AM

Quote from: Brian556 on November 21, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
This sign near Spencer OK is a mind f***. It says "Silver Creek Bridge Prohibited Not To Exceed 15 Tons". What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is it prohibited to be under 15 tons? Kinda sounds like it to me

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

The bridge itself is required to weigh more than 15 tons at all times. Sounds difficult to enforce, but I wish them luck.

That's the thing, see.  The bridge weighs less than 15 tons, and that's precisely why it's prohibited.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on November 22, 2019, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on November 21, 2019, 12:08:20 AM
This sign near Spencer OK is a mind f***. It says "Silver Creek Bridge Prohibited Not To Exceed 15 Tons". What the heck is that supposed to mean? Is it prohibited to be under 15 tons? Kinda sounds like it to me

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5076088,-97.3797009,3a,16.3y,348.79h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssu89qzRGgIXVq2dOO7hqYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

The bridge in question appears to be a culvert.  I didn't see any expansion joint on the north side.  Maybe culverts need weight restrictions too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on December 02, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
I saw this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1165213,-71.8576799,3a,75y,104.83h,78.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd7837zOgiR47KkMjZt0TQw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)* at I-395 in Oxford, MA this past Thanksgiving weekend.  Caltrans comes to Massachusetts.  :sombrero:

*Pardon the old, grainy GSV.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on December 02, 2019, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on December 02, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
I saw this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1165213,-71.8576799,3a,75y,104.83h,78.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd7837zOgiR47KkMjZt0TQw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)* at I-395 in Oxford, MA this past Thanksgiving weekend.  Caltrans comes to Massachusetts.  :sombrero:

*Pardon the old, grainy GSV.

These were put in as part of the I-395 Webster to Auburn sign replacement project completed in 2011.  The intent was to replace the inaccurate 'EXIT' gore signs commonly used on local roads that were divided only through the interchange with the Interstate.  MassDOT has since standardized on smaller gore signs indicating the route/direction with an arrow.  The use of 'FREEWAY ENTRANCE' gore signs in Massachusetts is unique to I-395, and has not been replicated on any other sign replacement projects within the state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on December 02, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 02, 2019, 03:16:24 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on December 02, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
I saw this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1165213,-71.8576799,3a,75y,104.83h,78.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd7837zOgiR47KkMjZt0TQw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)* at I-395 in Oxford, MA this past Thanksgiving weekend.  Caltrans comes to Massachusetts.  :sombrero:

*Pardon the old, grainy GSV.

These were put in as part of the I-395 Webster to Auburn sign replacement project completed in 2011.
The above must've been one of the first ones installed in that project because the above-GSV is dated Sept. 2009.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 02, 2019, 03:45:55 PM
Quote from: roadman on December 02, 2019, 03:16:24 PM
The intent was to replace the inaccurate 'EXIT' gore signs commonly used on local roads that were divided only through the interchange with the Interstate.  MassDOT has since standardized on smaller gore signs indicating the route/direction with an arrow.  The use of 'FREEWAY ENTRANCE' gore signs in Massachusetts is unique to I-395, and has not been replicated on any other sign replacement projects within the state.

WA has this issue. Like California, on-ramps are always marked using "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" signs, but sometimes they also get an "EXIT" sign when the freeway ends at a signal (but there's a slip-ramp to another freeway immediately adjacent):

(https://i.imgur.com/aeI9AeI.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on December 08, 2019, 12:24:56 PM
Curious for thoughts on this. Found along WV 15 in eastern Webster County. I can't decide if it's really old, or just someone painting letters onto a sign. As far as the actual community of Waneta goes, I didn't see any signs of even one building, driveway, or anything. Anyone familiar with older WV signage?

(https://i.imgur.com/rvK0h6z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zsu89xv.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Andrew T. on December 08, 2019, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: csw on December 08, 2019, 12:24:56 PM
Curious for thoughts on this. Found along WV 15 in eastern Webster County. I can't decide if it's really old, or just someone painting letters onto a sign. As far as the actual community of Waneta goes, I didn't see any signs of even one building, driveway, or anything. Anyone familiar with older WV signage?

The colours and layout (with "Unincorporated" on the bottom) are correct for very old WV signage, but the sloppiness is not!  This sign is either homemade or repainted, and it's a surprise to see it on the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on December 08, 2019, 07:25:37 PM
Two interesting signs I've seen recently:

This morning I saw a very faded "Speed Limit 20" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0076028,-75.4739318,3a,15y,136.71h,84.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHDcZ1uELVv98fR_S_k6F3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in front of Lake Forest East Elementary School in Frederica DE.

A few weeks ago I saw a https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6352612,-75.6309491,3a,15y,97.97h,86.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc3Y1TJ2nthoZOeW-wwTkkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656"Do Not Block Driveway" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6352612,-75.6309491,3a,15y,97.97h,86.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc3Y1TJ2nthoZOeW-wwTkkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656"Do%20Not%20Block%20Driveway"%20sign) that looked pretty old on US-13 between Red Lion DE and New Castle DE.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 09, 2019, 09:07:16 AM
This one may fit all categories:  A Wooden US-550 sign in Aztec, NM that has survived a street beautification project, and I would assume some close calls from traffic turning into and out of the gas station.

https://goo.gl/maps/HPrrLGEVpR5Lkfe38

BTW, that Shell station, and the two other gas stations before it a half block back have ALL been converted to Speedway!!!  Only the Mobil station is the same.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on December 11, 2019, 12:21:36 AM
Very Non-Standard ROAD CLOSED TO THRU TRAFFIC AND DETOUR signs:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4866169,-89.7691561,3a,26.6y,58.75h,89.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sb2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Db2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.433174%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4866169,-89.7691561,3a,26.6y,58.75h,89.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sb2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Db2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.433174%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on December 11, 2019, 09:23:18 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on December 11, 2019, 12:21:36 AM
Very Non-Standard ROAD CLOSED TO THRU TRAFFIC AND DETOUR signs:
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4866169,-89.7691561,3a,26.6y,58.75h,89.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sb2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Db2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.433174%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4866169,-89.7691561,3a,26.6y,58.75h,89.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sb2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Db2OKpdF4xFJB_E8zQiffpA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.433174%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)

Yikes, they got a lot of odd fonts going on there...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on December 20, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
Per the linked article, Macon County Illinois tried a custom 'funky intersection ahead' plaque for one approach to a J-turn at US 51.
https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html (https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 20, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 20, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
Per the linked article, Macon County Illinois tried a custom 'funky intersection ahead' plaque for one approach to a J-turn at US 51.
https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html (https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html)

Does it play funky music? ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 20, 2019, 07:23:08 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 20, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
Per the linked article, Macon County Illinois tried a custom 'funky intersection ahead' plaque for one approach to a J-turn at US 51.
https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html (https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html)

This gives new meaning to Ain't It Funky Now...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 21, 2019, 11:19:03 AM
Exactly when and where was this the standard for one way signs?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/embossed-road-highway-sign-One-Way-Glass-marble-reflectors-Original/233386353262?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D63786213737346c284a693309e284889%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D233379614354%26itm%3D233386353262%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 24, 2019, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on December 20, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
Per the linked article, Macon County Illinois tried a custom 'funky intersection ahead' plaque for one approach to a J-turn at US 51.
https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html (https://www.wandtv.com/news/sign-calling-intersection-funky-will-be-taken-down/article_ea3866f0-2358-11ea-b466-f327fa44e204.html)

UPDATE:  Upon the Macon County Highway Department's announcement that they would remove the sign next week (on order of IDOT), the sign was stolen.  The county has asked for the return of the sign, no questions asked, because it planned to auction it away for charity.
https://www.wandtv.com/news/funky-intersection-ahead-sign-is-missing/article_5fa8cc0e-2598-11ea-ad08-37bc75753bcb.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on December 28, 2019, 10:07:58 PM
Yield To Pedestrians sign with yellow yield:https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9685409,-90.0566725,3a,15.3y,34.59h,92.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCiOYH6h2V9v3w_pz7omN9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9685409,-90.0566725,3a,15.3y,34.59h,92.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCiOYH6h2V9v3w_pz7omN9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on December 29, 2019, 01:49:11 PM
I'm only looking at the artwork on the building behind the sign!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 02, 2020, 03:15:27 PM
San Clemente, CA

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49317485991_1ffb315e5b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on January 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 02, 2020, 03:15:27 PM
San Clemente, CA

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49317485991_1ffb315e5b_c.jpg)
Good way to use a sign, however that "No skateboarding Allowed sign"  is the sign there to prevent skateboard crews from sticking around the area or you cannot skateboard thru the area? It seems pretty illegal to ban skateboarding on a public street.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 04, 2020, 07:31:07 PM
QuoteIt seems pretty illegal to ban skateboarding on a public street.

I bet there's a lot of city signage that's technically illegal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 05, 2020, 02:31:49 PM
The Village of Poquott, New York used to have these non-MUTCD compliant speed limit signs, combined with an equally sized regulatory sign telling motorists of restrictions within the village, and a substitute sign underneath saying the village is "Security patrolled;"
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9462926,-73.0861421,3a,75y,32.82h,89.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJr7Oru3iYdbjNiwTnwAqJg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9462926,-73.0861421,3a,75y,32.82h,89.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJr7Oru3iYdbjNiwTnwAqJg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Today, they have these:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Poquott_Village_Speed_Limit-Restrictions_Sign-1.jpg (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Poquott_Village_Speed_Limit-Restrictions_Sign-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on January 06, 2020, 07:06:58 AM
I have noticed that many of the villages in New York have put up custom-made "Village of _______" signs in place of the LGS VILLAGE OF _______ signs that were prevalent from the 1970's through the 1990's.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 06, 2020, 08:23:17 AM
Recent oddities around Tampa Bay...

Canadian-style NEW sign in Treasure Island:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49330019021_7c86415d80_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ia8f2k)

A very large speed limit sign for what appears to be a short, narrow alley along Business US 41:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49330031176_3413ac2856_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ia8iCU)

"GPS Pull off" sign at Tampa International Airport:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49330009361_9f37ac703d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ia8c9M)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on January 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
It seems pretty illegal to ban skateboarding on a public street.

What seems illegal about that?  Plenty of modes of transportation are prohibited on various types of roads, paths, and highways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on January 06, 2020, 12:47:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on January 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
It seems pretty illegal to ban skateboarding on a public street.

What seems illegal about that?  Plenty of modes of transportation are prohibited on various types of roads, paths, and highways.
Why did you cut out the rest of what I said?

& that would be true if it was a "Path, Highway or etc"  however its a public street like I said.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on January 06, 2020, 12:47:30 PM

Quote from: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 11:48:05 AM

Quote from: Tonytone on January 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
It seems pretty illegal to ban skateboarding on a public street.

What seems illegal about that?  Plenty of modes of transportation are prohibited on various types of roads, paths, and highways.
Why did you cut out the rest of what I said?

& that would be true if it was a "Path, Highway or etc"  however its a public street like I said.

I cut out the rest because I was only wondering about that one thing you said.  Why did you cut out "roads" from what I said?

My home city of Wichita prohibits people from using e-scooters on any public street/road with a speed limit higher than 40 mph, and it prohibits them entirely after 9 PM.  Does that seem similarly illegal?  And if not, then why not?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on January 06, 2020, 01:19:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on January 06, 2020, 12:47:30 PM

Quote from: kphoger on January 06, 2020, 11:48:05 AM

Quote from: Tonytone on January 02, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
It seems pretty illegal to ban skateboarding on a public street.

What seems illegal about that?  Plenty of modes of transportation are prohibited on various types of roads, paths, and highways.
Why did you cut out the rest of what I said?

& that would be true if it was a "Path, Highway or etc"  however its a public street like I said.

I cut out the rest because I was only wondering about that one thing you said.  Why did you cut out "roads" from what I said?

My home city of Wichita prohibits people from using e-scooters on any public street/road with a speed limit higher than 40 mph, and it prohibits them entirely after 9 PM.  Does that seem similarly illegal?  And if not, then why not?
My bad I didn't even see the "roads"  

I can understand why a scooter would be banned on  roads higher than 40 MPH & 9PM. Between a scooter basically being a upgraded razor scooter & how hard it would be to see those things at night it's more for the safety of the scooter rider, but we could also say the same about motorcycles however I presume the speed is what makes the difference.

Also that law may have some clauses about which type of scooters are permitted to not follow the law.

I don't see "bicycles"  on that sign which would also go along the same mode of transportation of a skateboard, so i'm thinking its more of a skateboard crew issue or cars backing up & hitting them issue.





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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 06, 2020, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 06, 2020, 08:23:17 AM
Recent oddities around Tampa Bay...

Canadian-style NEW sign in Treasure Island:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49330019021_7c86415d80_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ia8f2k)
I've got to head to Treasure Island before the FDOT makes them remove that sign. There are a lot of things in Tampa, Pinellas County, and the vicinity of Sunshine Skyway Bridge I want to get pictures of.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on January 11, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
A standard destination sign's letters are now starting to peel a little bit:
(https://preview.redd.it/l5mavyclf7a41.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=1cf7d292dcb2fa1f2eaca60d77f37f527614892a)
Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/enca6e/the_sign_near_my_house_is_starting_to_peel_which/)
Location in 2018 with the letters starting to peel a small amount (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2809852,-74.3315824,3a,15y,87.51h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svlGUR5tVWourWD8YNtf5CA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 11, 2020, 08:20:25 PM
That actually looks like a neat "effects" font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 11, 2020, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 11, 2020, 08:20:25 PM
That actually looks like a neat "effects" font.
Yeah, I thought that was from some town that was too enamored with Halloween or something until I read the description!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 11, 2020, 09:51:43 PM
Looks really neat....zero chance that occurred by itself
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 12, 2020, 02:55:54 AM
Yeah, that looks more like vandalism than the sheeting randomly peeling.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on January 12, 2020, 04:15:01 AM
It looks like the green "background"  sheeting was applied on top of a white base, and it's actually the green that's splitting and peeling. Would that be the wrong way to make a white-on-green sign, for this reason?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 12, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 12, 2020, 04:15:01 AM
It looks like the green "background"  sheeting was applied on top of a white base, and it's actually the green that's splitting and peeling. Would that be the wrong way to make a white-on-green sign, for this reason?

Not necessarily a "wrong" way to make the sign, it's just different. I imagine this method has the highly reflective white base with a green film applied over the whole sign, then the sign is put in a machine cutter which trims the green film where legend and arrows will appear, allowing someone to remove the excess green film exposing the legend.

Compare to a different process where the white sign legend/elements have to be laid out on the green blank, and then rolled/pressed on. In this case, the white legend may start peeling over time as opposed to the green background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2020, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 12, 2020, 02:55:54 AM
Yeah, that looks more like vandalism than the sheeting randomly peeling.

Not vandalism.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2020, 02:15:13 PM
Even better when it happens on a sign it appears to be appropriate for!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZjA5zg6JFesqU6yP6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 12, 2020, 07:54:08 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 12, 2020, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 12, 2020, 04:15:01 AM
It looks like the green "background"  sheeting was applied on top of a white base, and it's actually the green that's splitting and peeling. Would that be the wrong way to make a white-on-green sign, for this reason?

Not necessarily a "wrong" way to make the sign, it's just different. I imagine this method has the highly reflective white base with a green film applied over the whole sign, then the sign is put in a machine cutter which trims the green film where legend and arrows will appear, allowing someone to remove the excess green film exposing the legend.

Compare to a different process where the white sign legend/elements have to be laid out on the green blank, and then rolled/pressed on. In this case, the white legend may start peeling over time as opposed to the green background.

Kentucky now uses the first method listed above (letters cut out of the green overlay sheeting) but formerly used the second method (reflective white letters individually applied to the green base.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 12, 2020, 10:23:42 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2020, 02:15:13 PM
Even better when it happens on a sign it appears to be appropriate for!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZjA5zg6JFesqU6yP6

Much better view: https://goo.gl/maps/9iGfL1mieL2DPpxE8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on January 13, 2020, 09:03:10 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on January 11, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
A standard destination sign's letters are now starting to peel a little bit:
(https://preview.redd.it/l5mavyclf7a41.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=1cf7d292dcb2fa1f2eaca60d77f37f527614892a)
A similar example (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8917683,-75.9191163,3a,75y,351.56h,69.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smDJpYOlzPz_dMhN5FXq3sw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) along PA 41 in Cochranville, Chester County.  See past GSVs for regression.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on January 13, 2020, 09:06:24 PM
US 95 near San Luis, Arizona. "Old Mexico"? Really?!

(https://i.imgur.com/4CndOEy.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 13, 2020, 09:23:29 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on January 13, 2020, 09:06:24 PM
US 95 near San Luis, Arizona. "Old Mexico"? Really?!

(https://i.imgur.com/4CndOEy.jpg)

By that logic one could call that part of Arizona also Old Mexico.  The parts of Arizona north of the Gadsden Purchase and Gila River could be Old New Mexico. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 15, 2020, 10:38:41 PM
Signing the distance to a border with the name of the bordering entity is awkward anyway. What point in Mexico is 4 miles away, the capital? If you mean the border, put the word "border" there somewhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on January 15, 2020, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2020, 10:38:41 PM
Signing the distance to a border with the name of the bordering entity is awkward anyway. What point in Mexico is 4 miles away, the capital? If you mean the border, put the word "border" there somewhere.

Normally I'd agree, but that would be somewhat confusing in this case, since the city on the other side is also San Luis, or more completely, San Luis Rio Colorado (abbreviated to just SLRC in the local media). "Intl Border" would work just fine.

I was somewhat surprised to see "San Felipe" (Baja Calif.) as a control city on southbound CA 111 just before Calexico/Mexicali.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 15, 2020, 11:46:46 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2020, 10:38:41 PM
Signing the distance to a border with the name of the bordering entity is awkward anyway. What point in Mexico is 4 miles away, the capital? If you mean the border, put the word "border" there somewhere.

It's now the norm in British Columbia. Old signs read "Seattle" (https://goo.gl/maps/Y2vz1AW4V23j9BRS8), but new signs read "USA Border" (https://goo.gl/maps/YtaNE7Mwe1Pu6LBU9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 16, 2020, 02:26:54 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on January 15, 2020, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 15, 2020, 10:38:41 PM
Signing the distance to a border with the name of the bordering entity is awkward anyway. What point in Mexico is 4 miles away, the capital? If you mean the border, put the word "border" there somewhere.

Normally I'd agree, but that would be somewhat confusing in this case, since the city on the other side is also San Luis, or more completely, San Luis Rio Colorado (abbreviated to just SLRC in the local media). "Intl Border" would work just fine.

Could do "San Luis, Mex" or "San Luis, Son." or something like that. But yeah, "Intl Border" would be preferable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on January 16, 2020, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 11, 2020, 08:20:25 PM
That actually looks like a neat "effects" font.

Or somebody who learned their printing skills from Mr. Haney.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 18, 2020, 11:56:54 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49149832716/in/photostream

Odd looking US 69 shield here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 19, 2020, 10:45:15 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 18, 2020, 11:56:54 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49149832716/in/photostream

Odd looking US 69 shield here.

Here's a similar one for US 22:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5853634,-74.6161323,3a,75y,135.13h,88.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stvzj8GxEP7S-Z8EJ7xqz0A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 19, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6874108,-74.3980395,3a,75y,91.97h,91.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6Xv753yejmIQH0cs-LCknw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Chubby I-78 shield with a county arrow :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 19, 2020, 04:55:05 PM
Looks like a 3du blank that they additionally used the wrong font size on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 21, 2020, 11:23:19 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6820352,-74.2142312,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjUdt0AM4vme0-WPMNJBSvw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Even though this sign on N. Broad Street in Elizabeth is been replaced several times, the post its attached to has not.  This is what many NJDOT sign assemblies once were like. 

Even the Goethals Bridge sign is still the same despite the green sign above it changed out.  I guess that is a PANYNJ sign and NJDOT will not touch it or even add it to their part of the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 26, 2020, 09:59:47 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49426802348/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49424475583/in/dateposted-public/

Two sign assemblies along I-20 near Kilgore, TX.  Both for the same exit but laid out differently.  One gets the same info in less area, yet both chosen to do the same job.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 26, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 26, 2020, 09:59:47 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49426802348/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49424475583/in/dateposted-public/

Two sign assemblies along I-20 near Kilgore, TX.  Both for the same exit but laid out differently.  One gets the same info in less area, yet both chosen to do the same job.

Except that the control cities change from one sign to the next.  "Henderson" on the first sign becomes "Longview" on the second.  If one of these is an older sign that has been replaced by the other, fine.  But it's potentially very confusing when control destinations aren't the same for the entire series of signs for an exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: -- US 175 -- on January 26, 2020, 12:16:06 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 26, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 26, 2020, 09:59:47 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49426802348/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49424475583/in/dateposted-public/

Two sign assemblies along I-20 near Kilgore, TX.  Both for the same exit but laid out differently.  One gets the same info in less area, yet both chosen to do the same job.

Except that the control cities change from one sign to the next.  "Henderson" on the first sign becomes "Longview" on the second.  If one of these is an older sign that has been replaced by the other, fine.  But it's potentially very confusing when control destinations aren't the same for the entire series of signs for an exit.

I think I heard/read this right a while back, that the US 259 south-TX 31 interchange is supposed to get redone to get rid of the left exits from I-20.

Also, IINM, backback in the day (maybe before the US 259 re-routing to along.I-20), the I-20 BGSes in both directions were much more complicated than they are now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: -- US 175 -- on January 26, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
OK kids, you'll probably need your eye bleach for this one...
(https://i.ibb.co/0QqNJGm/20191224-091708.jpg)

This is at the exit from a DART transit center-light rail station in Plano, TX.  More than a bit strange, as the Stop sign looking at the right-side corner is a regular we've-all-seen-it MUTCD kind, correct font and all.  I don't know why 1 Stop sign across all of DART's facilities is like the above, while the rest I've seen are the usual.  I don't even know where you'd get such a whacked-looking Stop sign from.  Anyway, hope your eyes recover...  :D :wow:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on January 26, 2020, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on January 26, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
OK kids, you'll probably need your eye bleach for this one...

(photo snipped)
This is at the exit from a DART transit center-light rail station in Plano, TX.  More than a bit strange, as the Stop sign looking at the right-side corner is a regular we've-all-seen-it MUTCD kind, correct font and all.  I don't know why 1 Stop sign across all of DART's facilities is like the above, while the rest I've seen are the usual.  I don't even know where you'd get such a whacked-looking Stop sign from.  Anyway, hope your eyes recover...  :D :wow:
I guess the sign really wants you to STOP.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 27, 2020, 11:05:12 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 26, 2020, 10:28:35 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 26, 2020, 09:59:47 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49426802348/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49424475583/in/dateposted-public/

Two sign assemblies along I-20 near Kilgore, TX.  Both for the same exit but laid out differently.  One gets the same info in less area, yet both chosen to do the same job.

Except that the control cities change from one sign to the next.  "Henderson" on the first sign becomes "Longview" on the second.  If one of these is an older sign that has been replaced by the other, fine.  But it's potentially very confusing when control destinations aren't the same for the entire series of signs for an exit.

Pretty common in signing practices.  Georgia would have it along I-75 & I-85 at their split where one used to read Columbus for I-85 south while another read Montgomery.    NJ Turnpike used to do that a lot where the 1 mile and 2 mile guides were much different.  I-95 in Fort Pierce, FL is another annoying one as the advanced guides show it in urban format with SR 70 as Okeechobee Road and the diverge uses control cites of Fort Pierce and Okeechobee for the state road.

Not exactly for the same interchange, but SR 570 in Polk County, FL has inconsistencies among signing all the Lakeland exits.  US 98 (Exit 10) is signed for Bartow- Lakeland yet nearby Exit 7 for State Road 37 is signed by street name "S. Florida Ave." when it is also a suburban arterial like US 98 nearby serving the area's local concerns.  Either sign SR 37 with Lakeland and Mulberry or sign US 98 as Bartow Road!  US 92 in Auburndale is another and is signed for Lakeland- Auburndale, but its far out and not near the other two in Lakeland proper.   However, the Exit 17 guides on SR 570 are like those of US 27 from I-75 in Broward where Hialeah is used as SB US 27 control point as I-75 just came from there if you are heading NB on the freeway or going SB its really premature to mention it despite the city of Hialeah is the first city SB on US 27.   
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 06, 2020, 11:37:26 AM
A comment vdeane made in another thread about stop signs prompted me to look at Street View of New Brunswick Route 95 approaching the US border, and when I did so, I found the following wonderful sign about carrying weed across the border:

https://goo.gl/maps/AJ5iNpbrJNhxPTpF7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheGrassGuy on February 11, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/325778946853699584/676789674882105344/unknown.png)
Umm, what route am I on?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 11, 2020, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 11, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/325778946853699584/676789674882105344/unknown.png)
Umm, what route am I on?
Well, you are on US 54/70, but the missing number is 82.

More interesting is making the R in Ruidoso so special.

And...not sure this sign qualifies for this thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 11, 2020, 03:18:04 PM
When there's a shortage of Ns (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9183378,-75.3053995,3a,75y,29.99h,64.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMye27N9bZC-HMBV6WdoWug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 11, 2020, 03:22:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2020, 03:18:04 PM
When there's a shortage of Ns (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9183378,-75.3053995,3a,75y,29.99h,64.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMye27N9bZC-HMBV6WdoWug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

but backwards ones are in flush supply?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on February 11, 2020, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 11, 2020, 03:22:58 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on February 11, 2020, 03:18:04 PM
When there's a shortage of Ns (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9183378,-75.3053995,3a,75y,29.99h,64.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMye27N9bZC-HMBV6WdoWug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

but backwards ones are in flush supply?
If one looks closely; it's actually a cut-off W.  It's tough to get a GSV of the above-SECANE RD. sign; but such has a similar cut-off W for the N.

IMHO, whoever fabricated this sign could've at least cut the Ws at the opposite ends if Ns weren't available.  These particular signs have been there since at least 2012 based on older GSVs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on February 17, 2020, 06:13:51 PM
"Restricted Clearances" warning sign in FL:https://www.google.com/maps/@28.2065581,-80.6373453,3a,16.2y,181.74h,86.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgOVIqryjqXT63jf-9-mFOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.2065581,-80.6373453,3a,16.2y,181.74h,86.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgOVIqryjqXT63jf-9-mFOA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ozarkman417 on February 17, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on February 11, 2020, 09:00:59 AM
<snipped>
Umm, what route am I on?
GSV tends to blur the numbers in the route shields sometimes, and I thought that was the case at first.
The oldest of the three images available (2013) shows the correct route number, but the other ones do as well. The image shown isn't at the best angle, but "82" is shown in white text, if you look closely enough.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 17, 2020, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 06, 2020, 11:37:26 AMA comment vdeane made in another thread about stop signs prompted me to look at Street View of New Brunswick Route 95 approaching the US border, and when I did so, I found the following wonderful sign about carrying weed across the border:

https://goo.gl/maps/AJ5iNpbrJNhxPTpF7

In Québec, the MTQ has added a similar design (including crossed-out cannabis leaf silhouette) to its standard sign catalog (code P-335), only with the text legend simplified to "Frontière/Border Crossings."  It is available in heights of 1.8 m and 2.4 m.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 17, 2020, 11:52:06 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 17, 2020, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 06, 2020, 11:37:26 AMA comment vdeane made in another thread about stop signs prompted me to look at Street View of New Brunswick Route 95 approaching the US border, and when I did so, I found the following wonderful sign about carrying weed across the border:

https://goo.gl/maps/AJ5iNpbrJNhxPTpF7

In Québec, the MTQ has added a similar design (including crossed-out cannabis leaf silhouette) to its standard sign catalog (code P-335), only with the text legend simplified to "Frontière/Border Crossings."  It is available in heights of 1.8 m and 2.4 m.

Also seen in BC. (https://goo.gl/maps/GHzjFm4DY2RF5ZY46)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 18, 2020, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 17, 2020, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 06, 2020, 11:37:26 AMA comment vdeane made in another thread about stop signs prompted me to look at Street View of New Brunswick Route 95 approaching the US border, and when I did so, I found the following wonderful sign about carrying weed across the border:

https://goo.gl/maps/AJ5iNpbrJNhxPTpF7

In Québec, the MTQ has added a similar design (including crossed-out cannabis leaf silhouette) to its standard sign catalog (code P-335), only with the text legend simplified to "Frontière/Border Crossings."  It is available in heights of 1.8 m and 2.4 m.

I see one near Derby Line: https://goo.gl/maps/CuinKC2vsisEYDJK7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 18, 2020, 05:21:52 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49552529338/in/photostream


Unusual to feature two pull through signs here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: silveradoman298 on February 18, 2020, 06:27:30 PM
Here's an odd one from Detroit. Not sure by the meaning of "Second Two-Way"...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49554497872_33bd5f749a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iuXKLm)Euclid at 2nd (2009)(2) (https://flic.kr/p/2iuXKLm) by Silveradoman298 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187063866@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on February 18, 2020, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: silveradoman298 on February 18, 2020, 06:27:30 PM
Here's an odd one from Detroit. Not sure by the meaning of "Second Two-Way"...

I think "Second" is being used as a street name here, and the sign is telling you that Second (Street? Avenue?) is a two-way street here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 19, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
I really wish I was on some kind of forum for OCD designers, who lose their lunch over things like this, but it fits just fine here too.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200219/4be527c5ce8619d18ce787b120297025.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on February 19, 2020, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 19, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
I really wish I was on some kind of forum for OCD designers, who lose their lunch over things like this, but it fits just fine here too.

I am a bit OCD when it comes to sign designs, though I'm usually not one to "lose my lunch" as you say. However your picture does dis please me greatly as there are at least 5 major things wrong displayed within it, which is pretty ridiculous!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on February 20, 2020, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: stevashe on February 19, 2020, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 19, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
I really wish I was on some kind of forum for OCD designers, who lose their lunch over things like this, but it fits just fine here too.

I am a bit OCD when it comes to sign designs, though I'm usually not one to "lose my lunch" as you say. However your picture does dis please me greatly as there are at least 5 major things wrong displayed within it, which is pretty ridiculous!

I was mostly focusing on the slight tilt to fit the text, which I'm sure some folks find absolutely maddening.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 20, 2020, 01:34:39 AM
The most maddening thing about it is that it absolutely doesn't have to be that way, because the sign should be a white rectangle anyway!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 20, 2020, 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 20, 2020, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: stevashe on February 19, 2020, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 19, 2020, 05:10:43 PM
I really wish I was on some kind of forum for OCD designers, who lose their lunch over things like this, but it fits just fine here too.

I am a bit OCD when it comes to sign designs, though I'm usually not one to "lose my lunch" as you say. However your picture does dis please me greatly as there are at least 5 major things wrong displayed within it, which is pretty ridiculous!

I was mostly focusing on the slight tilt to fit the text, which I'm sure some folks find absolutely maddening.

It has the answers right, but the questions were wrong...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/919/41505435632_2079f850de_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26eGcZb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on February 23, 2020, 10:52:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/P0HH09Y.jpg)

Taken on I-15 in Lehi, UT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on February 26, 2020, 09:45:45 PM
Quote from: -- US 175 -- on January 26, 2020, 02:44:47 PM
OK kids, you'll probably need your eye bleach for this one...
(https://i.ibb.co/0QqNJGm/20191224-091708.jpg)

This is at the exit from a DART transit center-light rail station in Plano, TX.  More than a bit strange, as the Stop sign looking at the right-side corner is a regular we've-all-seen-it MUTCD kind, correct font and all.  I don't know why 1 Stop sign across all of DART's facilities is like the above, while the rest I've seen are the usual.  I don't even know where you'd get such a whacked-looking Stop sign from.  Anyway, hope your eyes recover...  :D :wow:

Somehow, this gives me more of a school bus stop sign feel with how weird the STOP characters look. I mean, it just spells putting that sign on a school bus.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 28, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen this before, because I've added some "Share the Road" signs on Wikimedia Commons, but not like this.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Boulevard_-_Greenwood_MS_-_Share_the_Road_Sign_(28308409758).jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on February 28, 2020, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 28, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen this before, because I've added some "Share the Road" signs on Wikimedia Commons, but not like this.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Boulevard_-_Greenwood_MS_-_Share_the_Road_Sign_(28308409758).jpg

Am I the only one who cannot read that sign without looking really hard at it, zooming in, and squinting? That sign can't be much more legible in person.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 29, 2020, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on February 28, 2020, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 28, 2020, 10:38:49 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen this before, because I've added some "Share the Road" signs on Wikimedia Commons, but not like this.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_Boulevard_-_Greenwood_MS_-_Share_the_Road_Sign_(28308409758).jpg

Am I the only one who cannot read that sign without looking really hard at it, zooming in, and squinting? That sign can't be much more legible in person.

It's also very green.

I took the photo in early daylight, so it's a little washed out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 29, 2020, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: J3ebrules on February 28, 2020, 11:42:49 PM
Am I the only one who cannot read that sign without looking really hard at it, zooming in, and squinting? That sign can't be much more legible in person.

I can read it fine; maybe it's your monitor? It's just a white-on-green sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 29, 2020, 04:59:54 PM
I can read the message just fine on my screen without having to zoom or squint, but it doesn't surprise me Formulaone says it was taken in flat light--the background does seem a little burnt out.  With available light one has to be prepared to take some lumps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 01, 2020, 10:10:00 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49606922288/in/dateposted-public/
Never heard of an Alternate Junction before.   Of course the ALT tab is in the wrong place as much as the US 27 shield.   Only US 27 is an ALT route as both 19 & 98 are mainline here in Old Town, FL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 08, 2020, 11:15:51 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/BpSUfnjYmwPTnALWA
In this one GSV image, plenty of neat signs as well as a shocker (a 25 mph speed limit on a freeway) exists all in one vantage point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 10, 2020, 09:12:40 AM
Quote from: Eth on February 18, 2020, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: silveradoman298 on February 18, 2020, 06:27:30 PM
Here's an odd one from Detroit. Not sure by the meaning of "Second Two-Way"...

I think "Second" is being used as a street name here, and the sign is telling you that Second (Street? Avenue?) is a two-way street here.

I really like this and I wish more cities would do something similar.

Yes, it is telling us that Second Ave is changing from a one-way to a two-way and that it would be better for moving traffic to take a different route. Generally speaking, it is far easier to synchronize traffic signals on one way streets, so if you want to hit the green wave, you are better off taking their recommendation and driving on one of the other recommended streets.

The Detroit area is generally very good about optimizing surface streets for traffic flow.  Even some two-way surface streets like Woodward and Telegraph are optimized that can enable miles of travel with only getting a handful of red signals.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 10, 2020, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

Corrrect, the standard symbol is the standard R X R.  No distinction made for light rail or trolleys, but probably a good argument to be made for new symbols for light rail.  They're faster, lighter, and more frequent than standard trains.  It is a different thing to watch out for.

And given the number of accidents between cars and light rail in such cities as L.A, it may be a good idea to have the warning.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on March 10, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

According to the Wikipedia article, it's California only. Looks like it's part of their state MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 10, 2020, 05:24:55 PM
Do not cross the Thruway.

(https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/49645741582_6cd240d280_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iD2pkL)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 10, 2020, 07:14:06 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 10, 2020, 05:24:55 PM
Do not cross the Thruway.

(https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/49645741582_6cd240d280_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iD2pkL)


Indian Castle / Iroquois Service Areas? I think they tore that bridge down just to keep people from skipping Roy Rogers to go to Burger King on the other side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 10, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 10, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

According to the Wikipedia article, it's California only. Looks like it's part of their state MUTCD.

We have a unique style in Tacoma (https://goo.gl/maps/7sTxx3YY1S9aNmQf8), used only at driveway/trolley crossover points. There's a trolley symbol plus "LOOK BOTH WAYS". These would have been installed around 2002/2003.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 12:40:51 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 10, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

According to the Wikipedia article, it's California only. Looks like it's part of their state MUTCD.

We have a unique style in Tacoma (https://goo.gl/maps/7sTxx3YY1S9aNmQf8), used only at driveway/trolley crossover points. There's a trolley symbol plus "LOOK BOTH WAYS". These would have been installed around 2002/2003.

That same style is used at some of the TRAX light rail crossings in Salt Lake City. Here's one example at the 1300 South crossing (https://goo.gl/maps/8aB2ion2vHWtYBko8) - these particular signs are new within the past couple years, but I'm fairly sure they've used these on at least a limited basis since the first lines went in around 2000.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 11, 2020, 09:51:53 AM
Earlier this week, I came face-to-face with the biggest freeway sign I've ever seen in Salt Lake City.  The photo makes it look smaller than what it actually is.

When UDOT ever replaces that sign, I can probably make an all-aluminum 3-car garage out of it.

https://goo.gl/maps/aumy7DrErvPewdYEA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)
Aye, ye, ye.  :crazy:

Assuming that Belt Route is the street name for I-215; such should've not been included IMHO.  Elimination of that line would've reduced the overall panel height a tad.

Additionally, one could substitute the 2-line Salt Lake City International Airport legend for a single-line SLC Int'l Airport legend or equivalent.  Such a change would also reduce the panel height as well without loss of information.

Lastly, should the 15 SOUTH Salt Lake City portion of the APL even be included at all?  The shared-movement lane only applies for the Exit 312 (US 89 South) & 313 (I-215 South) movements.  Maybe a better approach for the I-15 South pull-through sign would be to utilize a separate & more sensible-sized panel with or without the three upward arrows or feature a black-on-yellow placard that reads LEFT 3 LANES.

Another solution would be to simply use the old-school downward arrows on three separate panels.

Maybe some of our sign gurus can take a stab at modifying/redesigning the above in the Redesign this! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3525) thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 11, 2020, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

That's "Salt Lake City" and "Salt Lake City Intl Airport".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on March 11, 2020, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 11, 2020, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

That's "Salt Lake City" and "Salt Lake City Intl Airport".

My bad.  Read it as two separate pieces of information.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2020, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 11, 2020, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

That's "Salt Lake City" and "Salt Lake City Intl Airport".

My bad.  Read it as two separate pieces of information.

A line between Belt Route and SLC Airport will help with that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on March 11, 2020, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2020, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 11, 2020, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

That's "Salt Lake City" and "Salt Lake City Intl Airport".

My bad.  Read it as two separate pieces of information.

A line between Belt Route and SLC Airport will help with that.

Ayup.  Partial horizontal divider would work nicely here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 01:45:00 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2020, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 11, 2020, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

That's "Salt Lake City" and "Salt Lake City Intl Airport".

My bad.  Read it as two separate pieces of information.

A line between Belt Route and SLC Airport will help with that.

Ayup.  Partial horizontal divider would work nicely here.
Either that or just use a single-lane SLC Int'l Airport per my prior suggestion on Reply #4874 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.4850).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
Maybe some of our sign gurus can take a stab at modifying/redesigning the above in the Redesign this! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3525) thread.

I've posted it over there; here's my nomination (based on my own style):

Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:26:32 PM
Key features:

* dropped "Belt Route" from sign; shortened airport name
* distance message used only for Center St
* shields are between the arrows
* pull-through would be entirely optional (no reason for it to be part of the exit signs, as there are no optional exits from those lanes)
* signs are approximately 130" tall
* the exit sign shows three exits, necessitating three different arrows (to avoid stacking); the style I've chosen is relatively unique, though I've used it once before.

(full size image (https://i.imgur.com/kW4mhIa.png))

(https://i.imgur.com/KMJA0i6.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on March 11, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
Maybe some of our sign gurus can take a stab at modifying/redesigning the above in the Redesign this! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3525) thread.

I've posted it over there; here's my nomination (based on my own style):

Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:26:32 PM
Key features:

* dropped "Belt Route" from sign; shortened airport name
* distance message used only for Center St
* shields are between the arrows
* pull-through would be entirely optional (no reason for it to be part of the exit signs, as there are no optional exits from those lanes)
* signs are approximately 130" tall
* the exit sign shows three exits, necessitating three different arrows (to avoid stacking); the style I've chosen is relatively unique, though I've used it once before.

(full size image (https://i.imgur.com/kW4mhIa.png))

(https://i.imgur.com/KMJA0i6.png)

You could also use a simpler '15 SOUTH Salt Lake City' pull thru sign that omits the arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
Maybe some of our sign gurus can take a stab at modifying/redesigning the above in the Redesign this! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3525) thread.

I've posted it over there; here's my nomination (based on my own style):
...
(full size image (https://i.imgur.com/kW4mhIa.png))

You could also use a simpler '15 SOUTH Salt Lake City' pull thru sign that omits the arrows.

I did consider that, but wanted my design to be as close to the original as possible. Mostly to show how creative positioning of elements can dramatically reduce APL sizes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
Maybe some of our sign gurus can take a stab at modifying/redesigning the above in the Redesign this! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3525) thread.

I've posted it over there; here's my nomination (based on my own style):
...
(full size image (https://i.imgur.com/kW4mhIa.png))

You could also use a simpler '15 SOUTH Salt Lake City' pull thru sign that omits the arrows.

I did consider that, but wanted my design to be as close to the original as possible. Mostly to show how creative positioning of elements can dramatically reduce APL sizes.

I like it. One thing worth pointing out is that your redesigned pull-through has one too many arrows - I guess there are four lanes continuing straight, but the left one is a HOT lane which is usually left off of APLs like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 06:42:48 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 11, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 11, 2020, 11:15:43 AM
Maybe some of our sign gurus can take a stab at modifying/redesigning the above in the Redesign this! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3525) thread.

I've posted it over there; here's my nomination (based on my own style):
...
(full size image (https://i.imgur.com/kW4mhIa.png))

You could also use a simpler '15 SOUTH Salt Lake City' pull thru sign that omits the arrows.

I did consider that, but wanted my design to be as close to the original as possible. Mostly to show how creative positioning of elements can dramatically reduce APL sizes.

I like it. One thing worth pointing out is that your redesigned pull-through has one too many arrows - I guess there are four lanes continuing straight, but the left one is a HOT lane which is usually left off of APLs like this.

I was originally going to mention the HOT lane, but decided against it. Normal practice that I'm used to seeing has the APL extended over (https://goo.gl/maps/HH5vAorqEHx5qoxH8) the "diamond" lanes, with those lanes having separate signs and marking to distinguish its purpose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on March 12, 2020, 05:53:06 AM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)
I think we just found a winner for the biggest road sign in history!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2020, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 12:40:51 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 10, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 10, 2020, 10:03:54 AM
I was going to start a whole new thread on this, but I changed my mind.

Does anybody see this sign here?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US-CO_-_Denver_-_Sign_-_North_America_-_Yellow_-_Road_Trip_-_Cutout_(4891803029).jpg

I just found out Canada has no such an equivalent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs

I find that surprising, especially for a city like Toronto. Or would there be too many of them?

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

According to the Wikipedia article, it's California only. Looks like it's part of their state MUTCD.

We have a unique style in Tacoma (https://goo.gl/maps/7sTxx3YY1S9aNmQf8), used only at driveway/trolley crossover points. There's a trolley symbol plus "LOOK BOTH WAYS". These would have been installed around 2002/2003.

That same style is used at some of the TRAX light rail crossings in Salt Lake City. Here's one example at the 1300 South crossing (https://goo.gl/maps/8aB2ion2vHWtYBko8) - these particular signs are new within the past couple years, but I'm fairly sure they've used these on at least a limited basis since the first lines went in around 2000.
And yet, you've got a lot of these around, and not just in Fort Smith, Arkansas:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Streetcar_crossing_sign_-_Fort_Smith,_Arkansas_(2008).jpg


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2020, 08:51:00 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 08, 2020, 11:15:51 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/BpSUfnjYmwPTnALWA
In this one GSV image, plenty of neat signs as well as a shocker (a 25 mph speed limit on a freeway) exists all in one vantage point.
That directional sign on the traffic signal pole seriously needs to be replaced.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6942522,-75.2094241,3a,15y,46.56h,95.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syz_najXUvvPdjBNXtX77yQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
(https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6942522,-75.2094241,3a,15y,46.56h,95.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syz_najXUvvPdjBNXtX77yQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 12, 2020, 11:35:51 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2020, 08:06:07 AM

And yet, you've got a lot of these around, and not just in Fort Smith, Arkansas:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Streetcar_crossing_sign_-_Fort_Smith,_Arkansas_(2008).jpg



Our streetcar is more of a novelty. I rarely see anyone using it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 12, 2020, 03:48:45 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

Tell that to Kansas, which uses Kansas City on both routes where I-35 splits from the Kansas Turnpike.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on March 12, 2020, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.
Where do you see SLC listed on both signs? One is SLC itself, the other one is SLC International Airport.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 12, 2020, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 12, 2020, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
I knew exactly what this was going to be before I clicked the link. Here's a photo I have that might do a better job showing how big it is - compare to the size of the truck right beneath it:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZU2heHT.jpg)

Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.
Where do you see SLC listed on both signs? One is SLC itself, the other one is SLC International Airport.

That is true.  But it would be better to distinguish it if they had "SLC Int'l Airport" on one line as opposed to "Salt Lake City" and "International Airport" on two lines, where it would seem to be two separate destinations.

Here's a sign in West Los Angeles at the 10/405 interchange clearly distinguishing between I-10 East to Los Angeles and I-405 South to LAX Airport (and Long Beach).

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0369882,-118.4388996,3a,75y,143.41h,84.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTkhFepBmAPEFB4yXxYefEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

NOTE: Not a fan of the white vertical line in the L.A. BGS separating L.A. from Santa Monica which would seem to indicate another lane over to the right, which doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 12, 2020, 10:11:08 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 12, 2020, 03:48:45 PM
Quote from: roadman on March 11, 2020, 12:59:09 PM
Same control city (Salt Lake City) for two different Interstate routes on the same sign is a big no-no.

Tell that to Kansas, which uses Kansas City on both routes where I-35 splits from the Kansas Turnpike.

This dates to the reconstruction of the Exit 127 interchange a few years back. On the generation of signage of the same vintage as that on the rest of the turnpike, Kansas City was only prominently used as a control for I-35, and I-335 had a smaller-text "Kans City Via I-70" under Topeka.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on March 13, 2020, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 12:40:51 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 10, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

According to the Wikipedia article, it's California only. Looks like it's part of their state MUTCD.

We have a unique style in Tacoma (https://goo.gl/maps/7sTxx3YY1S9aNmQf8), used only at driveway/trolley crossover points. There's a trolley symbol plus "LOOK BOTH WAYS". These would have been installed around 2002/2003.

That same style is used at some of the TRAX light rail crossings in Salt Lake City. Here's one example at the 1300 South crossing (https://goo.gl/maps/8aB2ion2vHWtYBko8) - these particular signs are new within the past couple years, but I'm fairly sure they've used these on at least a limited basis since the first lines went in around 2000.

Actually, that sign is in the CA MUTCD as well, which is probably where Tacoma and SLC got it from!

(https://i.imgur.com/IDHdtN8.png)
(from page 1314)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 13, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 13, 2020, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: US 89 on March 11, 2020, 12:40:51 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 10, 2020, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2020, 11:25:48 AM

I'm pretty sure the *US* has no such equivalent, as I don't believe that first one is an MUTCD-compliant sign or symbol.

According to the Wikipedia article, it's California only. Looks like it's part of their state MUTCD.

We have a unique style in Tacoma (https://goo.gl/maps/7sTxx3YY1S9aNmQf8), used only at driveway/trolley crossover points. There's a trolley symbol plus "LOOK BOTH WAYS". These would have been installed around 2002/2003.

That same style is used at some of the TRAX light rail crossings in Salt Lake City. Here's one example at the 1300 South crossing (https://goo.gl/maps/8aB2ion2vHWtYBko8) - these particular signs are new within the past couple years, but I'm fairly sure they've used these on at least a limited basis since the first lines went in around 2000.

Actually, that sign is in the CA MUTCD as well, which is probably where Tacoma and SLC got it from!

(https://i.imgur.com/IDHdtN8.png)
(from page 1314)

Certainly wouldn't be the first time (https://goo.gl/maps/RVTdWpMBENaLWAEC6) we've nicked something from California:

(https://i.imgur.com/4HpXPi8.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TheGrassGuy on March 15, 2020, 08:31:27 AM
Wikimedia Commons has a whole category full of these. (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Absurd_use_of_road_signs)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on March 18, 2020, 02:24:13 PM
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/b5/13/oNNBurZY_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/oNNBurZY)
A sign that's seen better days. This is on CT Route 372 East in Cromwell, CT. The other junction sign westbound is a newer state name shield one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 20, 2020, 12:31:28 AM
At 3:08 on this YouTube video, there's a cutout US 50 shield:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rphtId7vB4U


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 20, 2020, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 20, 2020, 12:31:28 AM
At 3:08 on this YouTube video, there's a cutout US 50 shield:

That's the standard sign in California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 20, 2020, 01:48:39 PM
https://twitter.com/ryandrawsbirds/status/1241043556652978186?s=21
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 22, 2020, 03:51:40 AM
Sign prohibiting buses from turning right on red.

Bellevue, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/ueD8Y3gbdXeqsYuc9).

(https://i.imgur.com/sYQzG2v.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on March 22, 2020, 12:26:07 PM
Odd orange speed limit sign that apparently got knocked over because it was so bad.  :)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1515-1553+S+Loop+W,+Houston,+TX+77054/@29.6791143,-95.4002469,3a,75y,32.94h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swmZqhs8jMX-yu7RR5omcLA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8640eaa9e1e5edbd:0xa185960e93b07ed1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 23, 2020, 12:06:50 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 22, 2020, 12:26:07 PM
Odd orange speed limit sign that apparently got knocked over because it was so bad.  :)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1515-1553+S+Loop+W,+Houston,+TX+77054/@29.6791143,-95.4002469,3a,75y,32.94h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swmZqhs8jMX-yu7RR5omcLA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8640eaa9e1e5edbd:0xa185960e93b07ed1

A little further down the road: A tab on top of a supplemental on top of a tab on top of a sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/eShoqMLxdKyysR4WA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Paulinator66 on March 23, 2020, 03:53:06 PM
There's this one between Springfield and Jacksonville IL on I-72

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7371636,-89.999793,3a,24.9y,301.07h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq-iEfDZ0qC7TS0MGjn41MQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7371636,-89.999793,3a,24.9y,301.07h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq-iEfDZ0qC7TS0MGjn41MQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 23, 2020, 08:39:07 PM
Quote from: Paulinator66 on March 23, 2020, 03:53:06 PM
There's this one between Springfield and Jacksonville IL on I-72

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7371636,-89.999793,3a,24.9y,301.07h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq-iEfDZ0qC7TS0MGjn41MQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7371636,-89.999793,3a,24.9y,301.07h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq-iEfDZ0qC7TS0MGjn41MQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Longitude is so arbitrary.  Latitude is more important: Salem, Oregon (https://goo.gl/maps/sKxfeXNwjUjTVeNL7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on March 24, 2020, 08:55:22 AM
Hi everyone - newer here. Hope this is the right thread.

Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), PA uses a font similar to Arial/Arial Bold on all of its signs - and always in capital letters. Aren't all of these signs technically wrong? The signs should either use Highway Gothic or Clearview, depending on the sign. The signs they produce have always bugged me.

Wayfinding Signs: https://goo.gl/maps/KByfPaGj87S61jdL7 | https://goo.gl/maps/HEDZHwaf92HUNS518
Stop Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/UTbbV3ZkeK61XjWg6
Street Name Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hAhGwgr9BcMsg85L7
Weight Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/WGr1p2Mr9U18boay9
Speed Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/53rtxk84ayWYyrSe9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on March 24, 2020, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 24, 2020, 08:55:22 AM
Hi everyone - newer here. Hope this is the right thread.

Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), PA uses a font similar to Arial/Arial Bold on all of its signs - and always in capital letters. Aren't all of these signs technically wrong? The signs should either use Highway Gothic or Clearview, depending on the sign. The signs they produce have always bugged me.

Wayfinding Signs: https://goo.gl/maps/KByfPaGj87S61jdL7 | https://goo.gl/maps/HEDZHwaf92HUNS518
Stop Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/UTbbV3ZkeK61XjWg6
Street Name Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hAhGwgr9BcMsg85L7
Weight Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/WGr1p2Mr9U18boay9
Speed Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/53rtxk84ayWYyrSe9

That font makes all the signs look like they are screaming at you, especially the STOP sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 24, 2020, 12:54:04 PM
This stop sign here isn't Montreal standard, let alone anywhere in Quebec, is it?

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_788067-Aston-Martin-V8-Vantage-S-Roadster-2012.html

I'm pretty sure it isn't, but I have to see the reaction of the people of Quebec.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 24, 2020, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 24, 2020, 12:54:04 PM
This stop sign here isn't Montreal standard, let alone anywhere in Quebec, is it?

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_788067-Aston-Martin-V8-Vantage-S-Roadster-2012.html

I'm pretty sure it isn't, but I have to see the reaction of the people of Quebec.


There are a few (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.410361,-73.911718,3a,28.6y,197.38h,82.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr-0Av9D0PywTYVJNj_Qw8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (albeit with a more standard font) on the west side of the island.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on March 26, 2020, 10:12:52 PM
And it says "STOP" instead of "ARRET"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 27, 2020, 11:37:01 AM
Okay, I want to bring this up for my fellow Long Islanders and ex-Long Islanders out there. In the Town of Brookhaven, there have always been these black signs with yellow lettering telling people that littering is illegal, and if they violate any littering laws they'll pay a $500 fine. And the signs used to claim they were authorized by Harold H. Malkmes, Superintendent of Highways (I've seen older variants with his predecessor in the past). The trouble is Malkmes died in 2011, and there's still a sign with his name on it on Bartlett Road across from the Spring Lake Golf Course in Middle Island.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Harold_Malkmes-era_No_Littering_sign_in_Middle_Island.jpg

I wish we could still post images directly here from our computers. I was debating between posting it on Wikimedia Commons and throwing the Middle Island, New York category out of balance, or posting it anonymously on imgur, which could've prevented me from re-posting it in the commons, if somebody from imgur got pissed off at the idea of it being reposted.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on March 27, 2020, 05:20:41 PM
This sign's font is absolutely disgusting!

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.9801483,-91.4886685,3a,35y,339.35h,80.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm4V2HiORJbC6KyswoqQd9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

La 66 near Angola
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 28, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 27, 2020, 05:20:41 PM
This sign's font is absolutely disgusting!

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.9801483,-91.4886685,3a,35y,339.35h,80.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm4V2HiORJbC6KyswoqQd9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

La 66 near Angola

Overreacting much? It's a obviously a non-standard but non-whimsical font and at least it's used in a proportional design manner.

Zooming in and out almost makes it appear more readable than Arial / Helvetica, but that could be the spacing and kerning in this example.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 29, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 24, 2020, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 24, 2020, 08:55:22 AM
Hi everyone - newer here. Hope this is the right thread.

Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), PA uses a font similar to Arial/Arial Bold on all of its signs - and always in capital letters. Aren't all of these signs technically wrong? The signs should either use Highway Gothic or Clearview, depending on the sign. The signs they produce have always bugged me.

Wayfinding Signs: https://goo.gl/maps/KByfPaGj87S61jdL7 | https://goo.gl/maps/HEDZHwaf92HUNS518
Stop Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/UTbbV3ZkeK61XjWg6
Street Name Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hAhGwgr9BcMsg85L7
Weight Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/WGr1p2Mr9U18boay9
Speed Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/53rtxk84ayWYyrSe9

That font makes all the signs look like they are screaming at you, especially the STOP sign.

Just down the road from one of those is this one. Interesting choice of words, not sure that's exactly what I would've gone with...
https://goo.gl/maps/aU6JGyXcYrwHNo3v7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on March 29, 2020, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 29, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 24, 2020, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 24, 2020, 08:55:22 AM
Hi everyone - newer here. Hope this is the right thread.

Allegheny County (Pittsburgh), PA uses a font similar to Arial/Arial Bold on all of its signs - and always in capital letters. Aren't all of these signs technically wrong? The signs should either use Highway Gothic or Clearview, depending on the sign. The signs they produce have always bugged me.

Wayfinding Signs: https://goo.gl/maps/KByfPaGj87S61jdL7 | https://goo.gl/maps/HEDZHwaf92HUNS518
Stop Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/UTbbV3ZkeK61XjWg6
Street Name Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hAhGwgr9BcMsg85L7
Weight Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/WGr1p2Mr9U18boay9
Speed Limit Sign: https://goo.gl/maps/53rtxk84ayWYyrSe9

That font makes all the signs look like they are screaming at you, especially the STOP sign.

Just down the road from one of those is this one. Interesting choice of words, not sure that's exactly what I would've gone with...
https://goo.gl/maps/aU6JGyXcYrwHNo3v7

The "Watch Children"  sign? I thought those were everywhere. There extremely common in Pittsburgh and it's suburbs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 30, 2020, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 29, 2020, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 29, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Just down the road from one of those is this one. Interesting choice of words, not sure that's exactly what I would've gone with...
https://goo.gl/maps/aU6JGyXcYrwHNo3v7

The "Watch Children"  sign? I thought those were everywhere. There extremely common in Pittsburgh and it's suburbs.

I don't know that they're "everywhere" (I've never seen one personally). But I think "Watch *For* Children" would be a less creepy phrasing...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jemacedo9 on March 30, 2020, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 30, 2020, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 29, 2020, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 29, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Just down the road from one of those is this one. Interesting choice of words, not sure that's exactly what I would've gone with...
https://goo.gl/maps/aU6JGyXcYrwHNo3v7

The “Watch Children” sign? I thought those were everywhere. There extremely common in Pittsburgh and it’s suburbs.

I don't know that they're "everywhere" (I've never seen one personally). But I think "Watch *For* Children" would be a less creepy phrasing...
It might a PA thing...they are everywhere in PA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on March 30, 2020, 11:24:16 AM
I found this on e-bay recently

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40807955293_d90124d757_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on March 30, 2020, 11:43:23 AM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on March 30, 2020, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 30, 2020, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 29, 2020, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 29, 2020, 04:13:31 PM
Just down the road from one of those is this one. Interesting choice of words, not sure that's exactly what I would've gone with...
https://goo.gl/maps/aU6JGyXcYrwHNo3v7

The "Watch Children"  sign? I thought those were everywhere. There extremely common in Pittsburgh and it's suburbs.

I don't know that they're "everywhere" (I've never seen one personally). But I think "Watch *For* Children" would be a less creepy phrasing...
It might a PA thing...they are everywhere in PA.

Yup...in the Municipality I live in, there's a watch children sign at the beginning of every residential street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on March 30, 2020, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: US71 on March 30, 2020, 11:24:16 AM
I found this on e-bay recently

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40807955293_d90124d757_z_d.jpg)
New Mexico style stop sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on March 30, 2020, 07:04:26 PM
Somebody in Salem, Massachusetts, is drunk.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/359e3ea3ea7d6de05408151836387e86.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/d32cbfc43d1783dc28cd214d2c193903.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/f14ebac6c96cb28997435b00761116d2.jpg)

And it looks like they visited Marblehead next door.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/a779c73dcbbe03d4e6ad85103460e642.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on March 31, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 30, 2020, 07:04:26 PM
Somebody in Salem, Massachusetts, is drunk.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/f14ebac6c96cb28997435b00761116d2.jpg)

They use that font on a couple of 1A signs, along with numerous street sign blades all over the city. I forget the name of the font, but it's the same font MassDOT uses on official communications.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 31, 2020, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on March 31, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 30, 2020, 07:04:26 PM
Somebody in Salem, Massachusetts, is drunk.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/f14ebac6c96cb28997435b00761116d2.jpg)

They use that font on a couple of 1A signs, along with numerous street sign blades all over the city. I forget the name of the font, but it's the same font MassDOT uses on official communications.

The font looks like an italic version of Eurostile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostile).

Which makes the sign look like a scene from a made-for-TV-movie set about a not-quite-distant future, which was released in the late-nineties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 31, 2020, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 31, 2020, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on March 31, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 30, 2020, 07:04:26 PM
Somebody in Salem, Massachusetts, is drunk.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/f14ebac6c96cb28997435b00761116d2.jpg)

They use that font on a couple of 1A signs, along with numerous street sign blades all over the city. I forget the name of the font, but it's the same font MassDOT uses on official communications.

The font looks like an italic version of Eurostile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostile).

Which makes the sign look like a scene from a made-for-TV-movie set about a not-quite-distant future, which was released in the late-nineties.


On one hand, the font is butt ugly.  OTOH, in a state where they just use plain, bland squares, it really livens up the state route marker, and I kind of like it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on April 04, 2020, 02:00:10 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49733424301_7fefd31c05_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iLLNmM)LP106 (https://flic.kr/p/2iLLNmM) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49733432461_cda7f080a4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iLLQMt)LP106N (https://flic.kr/p/2iLLQMt) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr

So...you may be wondering where these 2 seemingly ordinary parish route signs fit in this thread. Ugly? No. But unique, odd and interesting?  ABSOLUTELY!!!!

But why? Well, these have been installed on Tarbutton Road on the western edge of Ruston, LA. This is the site of a brand new interchange they have been building since 2018 (soon to be exit 83).  Somebody did some deep digging to find out the old parish road number for Tarbutton Rd. Lincoln hasn't used numbers to identify their routes since the implementation of E-911 in the late 80s/early 90s. Also, Lincoln Parish NEVER EVER used the pentagon shield. Lincoln Parish used blue squares with white text, numbers and border. My avatar is a pic of an original Lincoln Parish route marker. All parish routes are now named.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on April 04, 2020, 12:11:55 PM
The ultimate ugly Louisiana shield

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on April 04, 2020, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 04, 2020, 12:11:55 PM
The ultimate ugly Louisiana shield

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3173/2474628761_f82d6b129f_z_d.jpg)

Thankfully that monstrosity no longer exists!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Buck87 on April 04, 2020, 05:43:39 PM
Noticed this today while on a walk. The overpass and the new configuration have been there for 14 years now, but apparently enough trucks were still getting stuck to prompt the installation of this sign. As far as I know this sign is relatively new.


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200405/300cebcd26309a74c72f6594149f7281.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on April 04, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
Lots of these small, white markers are posted in parts of southeastern North Carolina - I found these east of Lumberton and several more around Fairmont. Does anyone know anything about them (mainly how old they are)?
(https://i.imgur.com/jYgkcXQ.jpg)

Another example - https://goo.gl/maps/Uwzq5SieNrMA8DZc7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on April 04, 2020, 07:10:52 PM
^^^^

Can't speak to the age of those particular markers, but I certainly remember that style being used statewide back in the late 1960s. They certainly aren't as common as they used to be, but they're more prevalent in the eastern portion of the state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on April 04, 2020, 08:55:57 PM
I think many counties are phasing them out, even in eastern NC.

In the 1980s there seemed to be a sharp dividing line at roughly I-77 where east of it these markers mostly showed distances to something and west of it gave a road name only.

NC has used a version of this marker back to the 1920s (then it was for primary routes). 

They have been on secondary routes back to the 1930s. 

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fphotos%2Fhester1939.jpg&hash=bddd3a6ddaf15883bb4ad8f98f096648abef7f96)
Nov 1939, Marion Wolcott, Farm Security Administration - Office of War Information Photograph Collection (Library of Congress)


At some point they used fractions too - here is a photo from the early 60s, when their secondary routes were all posted like the SR 100x series is now:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fphotos%2FSR1133.jpg&hash=04e1ee8a542087b3c0a00800fa76a440c0ace132)
Joyner Library - ECU
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on April 04, 2020, 10:08:12 PM
Let's give it up for construction signage! (all on Beltway 8 in Houston)

Orange on Black TX-225 shield (also note the other orange sign in the background)
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6936547,-95.1534727,3a,26y,36.36h,88.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s874Kz6po39_l3CSPbIyByw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This un-bordered mess:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6875121,-95.1535827,3a,15y,20.2h,93.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYEvKWaVm1pmAs1hxLOkkmg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This toll sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6203691,-95.1843975,3a,15y,115.48h,90.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxr-gydLmJs5ZRpaMsCDqSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on April 05, 2020, 07:09:09 PM
Quote from: csw on April 04, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
Lots of these small, white markers are posted in parts of southeastern North Carolina - I found these east of Lumberton and several more around Fairmont. Does anyone know anything about them (mainly how old they are)?
(https://i.imgur.com/jYgkcXQ.jpg)

Another example - https://goo.gl/maps/Uwzq5SieNrMA8DZc7

most of them that i have seen look pretty old. however, I have seen a few brand new installations recently. I believe one was somewhere along NC 41 or NC 58 in Lenoir or Jones county
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on April 05, 2020, 07:09:09 PM
Quote from: csw on April 04, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
Lots of these small, white markers are posted in parts of southeastern North Carolina - I found these east of Lumberton and several more around Fairmont. Does anyone know anything about them (mainly how old they are)?
(https://i.imgur.com/jYgkcXQ.jpg)

Another example - https://goo.gl/maps/Uwzq5SieNrMA8DZc7

most of them that i have seen look pretty old. however, I have seen a few brand new installations recently. I believe one was somewhere along NC 41 or NC 58 in Lenoir or Jones county

One thing I liked about North Carolina and those wayfinder signs:  Not only would they designate "short cuts" to other towns and/or numbered highways, but they also would designate roads that dead-ended as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on April 07, 2020, 06:42:06 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 05, 2020, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on April 05, 2020, 07:09:09 PM
Quote from: csw on April 04, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
Lots of these small, white markers are posted in parts of southeastern North Carolina - I found these east of Lumberton and several more around Fairmont. Does anyone know anything about them (mainly how old they are)?


Another example - https://goo.gl/maps/Uwzq5SieNrMA8DZc7

most of them that i have seen look pretty old. however, I have seen a few brand new installations recently. I believe one was somewhere along NC 41 or NC 58 in Lenoir or Jones county

One thing I liked about North Carolina and those wayfinder signs:  Not only would they designate "short cuts" to other towns and/or numbered highways, but they also would designate roads that dead-ended as well.

Also fairly common was "loop rd"

The distance shown on a sign in the 1960s photo I posted was 20 miles which gets me wondering what the longest distance on one of these in the modern era is/was.  Not sure if I've seen higher than 30.

Here is one with 28 - https://goo.gl/maps/U6WqrH46H5817xQZA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on April 10, 2020, 09:29:33 PM
I've seen signs with similar messages, but this sign is odd. I can't decide whether it belongs in the worst of road signs (for the font for It's The Law!) or not.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0213307,-94.1738382,3a,15y,66h,86.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svl7WJlcCenqi3eoPNnh17w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 10, 2020, 09:34:54 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on April 10, 2020, 09:29:33 PM
I've seen signs with similar messages, but this sign is odd. I can't decide whether it belongs in the worst of road signs (for the font for It's The Law!) or not.

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0213307,-94.1738382,3a,15y,66h,86.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svl7WJlcCenqi3eoPNnh17w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's nowhere near worst of. To me, it looks fairly normal, with the exception that it's a custom message.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 14, 2020, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: fillup420 on April 05, 2020, 07:09:09 PM
Quote from: csw on April 04, 2020, 06:59:43 PM
Lots of these small, white markers are posted in parts of southeastern North Carolina - I found these east of Lumberton and several more around Fairmont. Does anyone know anything about them (mainly how old they are)?
(https://i.imgur.com/jYgkcXQ.jpg)

Another example - https://goo.gl/maps/Uwzq5SieNrMA8DZc7

most of them that i have seen look pretty old. however, I have seen a few brand new installations recently. I believe one was somewhere along NC 41 or NC 58 in Lenoir or Jones county
I'm surprised that I see any new versions of these types of signs, but I have. I don't remember whether they were in Selma or Kenly though.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 16, 2020, 10:13:58 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49740693111/in/dateposted-public/
Not only unique as being a four destination mileage sign, but the placement of the control cities.  Pelham should be number two.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on April 16, 2020, 11:35:25 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2020, 10:13:58 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49740693111/in/dateposted-public/
Not only unique as being a four destination mileage sign, but the placement of the control cities.  Pelham should be number two.

I noticed the picture was taken on a concurrency between US 19 and US 84. If you look at a map, 19 goes to Pelham and 84 goes to the other control cities. It seems they were trying to differentiate between where the two routes went, listing the destinations for 84 separately from 19's destination.

While I think Pelham should stay where it is on the sign, the sign is still unique and definitely qualifies for this thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Also if anyone can tell me how to embed images that would be great lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Also if anyone can tell me how to embed images that would be great lol

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).

For imgur, right click on the image and copy the address (ends in ".jpg" or ".png") and then paste it in here. Highlight the whole link, and then click the "insert image" button on the far left of the buttons above the reply box. This will automatically add the necessary BBCode elements around the link.

There are 500 other ways to do it, but that's probably the most straightforward.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on April 21, 2020, 12:29:33 PM
https://imgur.com/EXYWdFi (https://imgur.com/EXYWdFi)

Route 48 in Elizabeth Township, Allegheny County, PA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 21, 2020, 01:49:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).


The "no stopping" sign and hazard sign in particular are totes BC. Where in WA was this?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 21, 2020, 01:49:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).


The "no stopping" sign and hazard sign in particular are totes BC. Where in WA was this?

You are referring to the "road to be continued" signs? Very common throughout WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/MguqsCETUuSXxJ8w9), here (https://goo.gl/maps/rJTWzj81qFf5A3Tb9) (look at the ground), here (https://goo.gl/maps/aFqBxhRyGCjVXFES6), here (https://goo.gl/maps/ag5LpzakAjM2eETx8), and here (https://goo.gl/maps/1w4BQA25akUfhwAt8) are five that come to mind. There are many more and I could make a list (although at least one has been swallowed up by vegetation (https://goo.gl/maps/RiYhMxjrMyhPsWh26)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 22, 2020, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
You are referring to the "road to be continued" signs? Very common throughout WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/MguqsCETUuSXxJ8w9), here (https://goo.gl/maps/rJTWzj81qFf5A3Tb9) (look at the ground), here (https://goo.gl/maps/aFqBxhRyGCjVXFES6), here (https://goo.gl/maps/ag5LpzakAjM2eETx8), and here (https://goo.gl/maps/1w4BQA25akUfhwAt8) are five that come to mind. There are many more and I could make a list (although at least one has been swallowed up by vegetation (https://goo.gl/maps/RiYhMxjrMyhPsWh26)).

Is there some kind of legal requirement in WA to post these kinds of situations within the ROW? A lot of these situations it seems fairly obvious that a road extension could happen in the future just by how it's constructed (no turnaround or otherwise not a cul-de-sac), but I wouldn't think a sign (or message painted on the pavement) would be necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2020, 02:26:51 AM
Quote from: roadfro on April 22, 2020, 10:28:50 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
You are referring to the "road to be continued" signs? Very common throughout WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/MguqsCETUuSXxJ8w9), here (https://goo.gl/maps/rJTWzj81qFf5A3Tb9) (look at the ground), here (https://goo.gl/maps/aFqBxhRyGCjVXFES6), here (https://goo.gl/maps/ag5LpzakAjM2eETx8), and here (https://goo.gl/maps/1w4BQA25akUfhwAt8) are five that come to mind. There are many more and I could make a list (although at least one has been swallowed up by vegetation (https://goo.gl/maps/RiYhMxjrMyhPsWh26)).

Is there some kind of legal requirement in WA to post these kinds of situations within the ROW? A lot of these situations it seems fairly obvious that a road extension could happen in the future just by how it's constructed (no turnaround or otherwise not a cul-de-sac), but I wouldn't think a sign (or message painted on the pavement) would be necessary.

I'm not aware of any legal requirement. If I had to guess, there are more dead-ends with those red/white chevron barriers without "to be extended" signs, than there are those with signs. It's just that some jurisdictions use the sign more than others.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2020, 02:33:43 AM
This is a relatively new APL that was installed on northbound 5 at the WA-16 interchange in Tacoma, WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/Hq2AkVL8ywXkUTFw7) on Street View (though it's not on there just yet).

The unique bit for me is two-fold: the APL for the HOV split, but also the usage of "TO" (this is an exit directly towards WA-16...I don't believe "TO" is necessary). All of the HOV signs for this interchange (three-way interchange with HOV ramps in all directions) have similar uses of "TO".

(https://i.imgur.com/DajWlOn.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 23, 2020, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 23, 2020, 02:33:43 AM
This is a relatively new APL that was installed on northbound 5 at the WA-16 interchange in Tacoma, WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/Hq2AkVL8ywXkUTFw7) on Street View (though it's not on there just yet).

The unique bit for me is two-fold: the APL for the HOV split, but also the usage of "TO" (this is an exit directly towards WA-16...I don't believe "TO" is necessary). All of the HOV signs for this interchange (three-way interchange with HOV ramps in all directions) have similar uses of "TO".

(https://i.imgur.com/DajWlOn.jpg)

I'm intrigued that the HOV lane sign, despite seeming to be a new install, is still all black-on-white. 2009 MUTCD standard is to use white-on-green, but still have the diamond symbol and a black-on-white banner across the top.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 23, 2020, 04:46:39 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 23, 2020, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 23, 2020, 02:33:43 AM
This is a relatively new APL that was installed on northbound 5 at the WA-16 interchange in Tacoma, WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/Hq2AkVL8ywXkUTFw7) on Street View (though it's not on there just yet).

The unique bit for me is two-fold: the APL for the HOV split, but also the usage of "TO" (this is an exit directly towards WA-16...I don't believe "TO" is necessary). All of the HOV signs for this interchange (three-way interchange with HOV ramps in all directions) have similar uses of "TO".

(https://i.imgur.com/DajWlOn.jpg)

I'm intrigued that the HOV lane sign, despite seeming to be a new install, is still all black-on-white. 2009 MUTCD standard is to use white-on-green, but still have the diamond symbol and a black-on-white banner across the top.

Definitely a new install, although the project has been ongoing for some time. It's possible that it predates WA's adoption of the 2009 MUTCD in December 2011, but I doubt it.

The only white-on-green HOV signage was along the I-90 express lanes east of Seattle (https://goo.gl/maps/96AbW7RBfnzqpLtZ7), installed in the late 2000s, but those have since closed to traffic (being replaced by light rail). Other than that, WSDOT does not use white-on-green HOV signs that I've seen, even on new installations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on April 24, 2020, 02:56:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Also if anyone can tell me how to embed images that would be great lol

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).

For imgur, right click on the image and copy the address (ends in ".jpg" or ".png") and then paste it in here. Highlight the whole link, and then click the "insert image" button on the far left of the buttons above the reply box. This will automatically add the necessary BBCode elements around the link.

There are 500 other ways to do it, but that's probably the most straightforward.

I'm not quite sure which signs you mean? Most of the HOV signs in WA look pretty different than the ones in BC in my opinion.

Also, thank you!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 24, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 24, 2020, 02:56:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Also if anyone can tell me how to embed images that would be great lol

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).

I'm not quite sure which signs you mean? Most of the HOV signs in WA look pretty different than the ones in BC in my opinion.

I was thinking of those "keep left" signs where the HOV lanes go left of a barrier. They're not word-for-word identical to those in WA, but there seems to be some inspiration (especially as regular HOV exit signs are white-on-green, and this is WSDOT-classic black-on-white):

https://goo.gl/maps/yin45FdxrmYXcxaN7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on April 24, 2020, 05:03:49 PM
saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7492709,-78.8836527,3a,51.1y,325.42h,78.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3nuLIvn_3b7LRq8rzsiA4A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) the other day while driving to a job site
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on April 25, 2020, 06:10:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 24, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 24, 2020, 02:56:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Also if anyone can tell me how to embed images that would be great lol

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).

I'm not quite sure which signs you mean? Most of the HOV signs in WA look pretty different than the ones in BC in my opinion.

I was thinking of those "keep left" signs where the HOV lanes go left of a barrier. They're not word-for-word identical to those in WA, but there seems to be some inspiration (especially as regular HOV exit signs are white-on-green, and this is WSDOT-classic black-on-white):

https://goo.gl/maps/yin45FdxrmYXcxaN7

Oh, ok. I definitely remember seeing signs like that somewhere near Seattle (I remember my mom kinda freaking out because our exit was coming up soon) but I don't remember where exactly. I-405 maybe? This was definitely before they introduced HOT lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on April 25, 2020, 06:59:28 AM
I've never seen a "USE BOTH LANES" (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.7029384,-122.1530318,3a,15.1y,26.02h,89.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1segZ0FX8Ujd-czUlbOab3jA!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i16384!8i8192) sign before. I'm guessing the left lane got backed up full of drivers that don't like merging and the city realized they could get more cars through the intersection if more people actually used the right lane.

Personally I like it when the right lane is empty at intersections like these because it means I can cut in front of the massive line of slow-moving cars in the left lane before there's only one lane :)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on April 25, 2020, 08:33:21 AM
Every active work zone in PA has these now 🙄

https://imgur.com/lrR8ipR (https://imgur.com/lrR8ipR)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 25, 2020, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 25, 2020, 06:59:28 AM
I've never seen a "USE BOTH LANES" (https://www.google.ca/maps/@47.7029384,-122.1530318,3a,15.1y,26.02h,89.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1segZ0FX8Ujd-czUlbOab3jA!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i16384!8i8192) sign before. I'm guessing the left lane got backed up full of drivers that don't like merging and the city realized they could get more cars through the intersection if more people actually used the right lane.

Personally I like it when the right lane is empty at intersections like these because it means I can cut in front of the massive line of slow-moving cars in the left lane before there's only one lane :)

The only place I've seen USE BOTH LANES is on a BGS where traffic on I-64 use C/D lanes to access I-295 in Virginia.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kZkCxAkVJVtJRksT6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 25, 2020, 06:10:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 24, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 24, 2020, 02:56:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Also if anyone can tell me how to embed images that would be great lol

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).

I'm not quite sure which signs you mean? Most of the HOV signs in WA look pretty different than the ones in BC in my opinion.

I was thinking of those "keep left" signs where the HOV lanes go left of a barrier. They're not word-for-word identical to those in WA, but there seems to be some inspiration (especially as regular HOV exit signs are white-on-green, and this is WSDOT-classic black-on-white):

https://goo.gl/maps/yin45FdxrmYXcxaN7

Oh, ok. I definitely remember seeing signs like that somewhere near Seattle (I remember my mom kinda freaking out because our exit was coming up soon) but I don't remember where exactly. I-405 maybe? This was definitely before they introduced HOT lanes.

Mostly common along I-5, especially in the South Sound region (see link below). I can't readily think of others.

https://goo.gl/maps/nK9rA5BpAZck4YK58

Oddly, BC opted to use all-text, whereas WSDOT used a "KEEP LEFT" symbol in addition to text. I'm more used to seeing symbols (https://goo.gl/maps/SojnrZbFFZRm21ga9) where the US might use text, so this is an odd change of pace.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 25, 2020, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 21, 2020, 01:49:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).


The "no stopping" sign and hazard sign in particular are totes BC. Where in WA was this?

You are referring to the "road to be continued" signs? Very common throughout WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/MguqsCETUuSXxJ8w9), here (https://goo.gl/maps/rJTWzj81qFf5A3Tb9) (look at the ground), here (https://goo.gl/maps/aFqBxhRyGCjVXFES6), here (https://goo.gl/maps/ag5LpzakAjM2eETx8), and here (https://goo.gl/maps/1w4BQA25akUfhwAt8) are five that come to mind. There are many more and I could make a list (although at least one has been swallowed up by vegetation (https://goo.gl/maps/RiYhMxjrMyhPsWh26)).

No, I know about those. I mean the other two signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 25, 2020, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 21, 2020, 01:49:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 21, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 21, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
https://imgur.com/Uyk4tGa

People have previously posted in this thread about finding signs like this in Washington State, but I happened to walk past one near my house today.

Nice find. These seem spectacularly common in WA but are definitely rare elsewhere. Perhaps yet another sign in BC that seems to have come from Washington State? (Thinking of the HOV "keep left" signs along Hwy 1).


The "no stopping" sign and hazard sign in particular are totes BC. Where in WA was this?

You are referring to the "road to be continued" signs? Very common throughout WA. Here (https://goo.gl/maps/MguqsCETUuSXxJ8w9), here (https://goo.gl/maps/rJTWzj81qFf5A3Tb9) (look at the ground), here (https://goo.gl/maps/aFqBxhRyGCjVXFES6), here (https://goo.gl/maps/ag5LpzakAjM2eETx8), and here (https://goo.gl/maps/1w4BQA25akUfhwAt8) are five that come to mind. There are many more and I could make a list (although at least one has been swallowed up by vegetation (https://goo.gl/maps/RiYhMxjrMyhPsWh26)).

No, I know about those. I mean the other two signs.

Oh. So you mean "where in BC?" Because the original photo (with the three signs) is in British Columbia. The only signs in WA are those that bcroadguy is referring to, and which only I linked to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on April 25, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
The largest stand-alone shield I have ever seen. US 220 NB at the new I-840 northwest of Greensboro, NC. The behemoth is probably four feet wide.
(https://i.imgur.com/gPE40hH.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: csw on April 25, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
The largest stand-alone shield I have ever seen. US 220 NB at the new I-840 northwest of Greensboro, NC. The behemoth is probably four feet wide.
(https://i.imgur.com/gPE40hH.jpg)

That is just ridiculously big for no reason smdh maybe NCDOT is trying to emphasize that fact that 840 is open there now
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

But it implies that you can't turn right.

Side note: is there anything in the MUTCD banning traffic calming circles in the same way that all-way stops for traffic calming are prohibited?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 06:53:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

But it implies that you can't turn right.

I would say a good compromise is showing all movements, rather than just those that interact with the circle. The problem is when they get carried away with only using one type of sign, such as when left turns aren't even possible:

(https://i.imgur.com/LVS5QeX.jpg)

These are especially annoying because Tacoma (and other neighboring cities, like Seattle) have been using calming circles for decades now. I don't understand how these types of errors keep occuring. The engineers (especially new hires) should be familiar with all aspects of their design, operation, and signage needs.

Quote from: 1 on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Side note: is there anything in the MUTCD banning traffic calming circles in the same way that all-way stops for traffic calming are prohibited?

My understanding is that calming circles are not intersection control devices like a stop sign. Unsigned intersection rules apply at calming circles (at least in Washington State): give way to all vehicle from the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

meh.

If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?  I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.



Quote from: 1 on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
But it implies that you can't turn right.

It's not a regulatory sign.  It doesn't at all imply what you can or cannot do.  It's just warning you that some people might be turning left or going straight.  So watch out.

:awesomeface:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ipeters61 on April 25, 2020, 09:15:26 PM
I was out driving through some towns in southwestern Delaware today and saw this all text "Do Not Enter" sign in Laurel.  Not sure when it dates from but it looks pretty old.
(https://i.ibb.co/BPcgzq3/image.png) (https://ibb.co/59G5MB4)

There were quite a few old signs in the area.  This is an embossed seat belt notice near West Seaford Elementary School.

(https://i.ibb.co/pv8fXy8/image.png) (https://ibb.co/Z6PBTmP)

There were also some interesting signs, including this notice requesting "48 hours notice" for emergencies to open a drawbridge in Laurel.

(https://i.ibb.co/4dsYSW7/image.png) (https://ibb.co/HdNxP7V)

Just south of Blades on Seaford Road is an end of speed limit sign, something DelDOT has deprecated.

(https://i.ibb.co/b5xbMp5/image.png) (https://ibb.co/7tHkd7t)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 25, 2020, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

meh.

If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?  I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

The problem around here is intersections like this:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/DRzs54LMj3N6A47U8

Blind corners, not easy to see if cars are coming.

Oddly enough many of these small islands replaced 4-way stops, though some people ran those too, on top of speeders.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

meh.

If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?  I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

The problem around here is intersections like this:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/DRzs54LMj3N6A47U8

Blind corners, not easy to see if cars are coming.

Oddly enough many of these small islands replaced 4-way stops, though some people ran those too, on top of speeders.

That's a roundabout, not a calming circle. Can you link to an example more like mine?

Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?. I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

That's kind of beside the point. You can do a lot of things when no one is around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 25, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

meh.

If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?  I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

The problem around here is intersections like this:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/DRzs54LMj3N6A47U8

Blind corners, not easy to see if cars are coming.

Oddly enough many of these small islands replaced 4-way stops, though some people ran those too, on top of speeders.

That's a roundabout, not a calming circle. Can you link to an example more like mine?

It's a small island in the middle of a regular intersection with no pavement markers, at least that is what I thought you was talking about. Try entering street view if you didn't already.

If not then maybe this?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eHoQ8uj1iVZrwSDi9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 26, 2020, 03:22:00 AM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

meh.

If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?  I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

The problem around here is intersections like this:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/DRzs54LMj3N6A47U8

Blind corners, not easy to see if cars are coming.

Oddly enough many of these small islands replaced 4-way stops, though some people ran those too, on top of speeders.

That's a roundabout, not a calming circle. Can you link to an example more like mine?

It's a small island in the middle of a regular intersection with no pavement markers, at least that is what I thought you was talking about. Try entering street view if you didn't already.

If not then maybe this?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eHoQ8uj1iVZrwSDi9

I was looking specifically at the five-way intersection; looks like the ones around are designed similar to calming circles but they have yield entries.

Oddly, the other one you linked to also has a yield entry (although it does have those useless blank diamonds). This is unlike the calming circles in WA, which have no signs on entry. They are like the thousands of other unsigned intersections in the Seattle/Tacoma area, except that you have to go around the circle to turn left. Traffic still must give way to the right.

For reference, here's the intersection in my photo (https://goo.gl/maps/cZXDv45caqKF4Ab98) (note the total lack of signs apart from the yellow diamonds).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on April 26, 2020, 05:04:02 AM
Quote from: 1 on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

But it implies that you can't turn right.
Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
Try entering street view if you didn't already.

That's what caused the confusion.  You had apparently panned away from the intersection in question before grabbing the link to post.  Therefore, your link didn't actually display a pin on the map or go to Street View of any particular location.  It just showed a map with dozens of intersections in them, the largest circular one of which isn't the one you expected us to look at.

Here's what displayed:

(https://i.imgur.com/l49YH02.png)

Only by zooming out did I realize there was even a pin on the map.

(https://i.imgur.com/gsFSiRl.png)

So I too, like jakeroot, first looked at the big circular intersection in the middle of the map (https://goo.gl/maps/oHop6rSynpCwceMW8)–at which there are no blind corners (because one must yield to the left rather than to the right), it is easy to see if cars are coming...  You can understand the confusion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 10:59:24 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?. I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

That's kind of beside the point. You can do a lot of things when no one is around.

But if doing can be done safely most of the time, then I still say there's no problem to complain about.  It only becomes a problem when people's practices conflict.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 26, 2020, 12:39:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 10:59:24 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2020, 08:19:23 PM
If going on the left side can safely be done 90% of the time, then why bother making them go around the long way?. I might even go on the wrong side only if nobody else were approaching the intersection.

That's kind of beside the point. You can do a lot of things when no one is around.

But if doing can be done safely most of the time, then I still say there's no problem to complain about.  It only becomes a problem when people's practices conflict.

Not stopping at a red light, which I remember you saying you sometimes do, might be fine in your area. Where I live, there are trees and houses everywhere, so it would be dangerous in eastern Massachusetts even with no other vehicles visible.

I could imagine a hidden vehicle at these traffic calming circles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 26, 2020, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 06:53:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
Almost all of the traffic calming circles in Tacoma show only left and through movements. Is this normal for calming circles? I know it's not for roundabouts, but these aren't those.

(https://i.imgur.com/umM3Ioy.jpg)

I wish Richmond would use these. Most of our traffic calmers have been in place for like 3 or 4 years now and people STILL drive on the wrong side of the island when making a left.

But it implies that you can't turn right.

I would say a good compromise is showing all movements, rather than just those that interact with the circle. The problem is when they get carried away with only using one type of sign, such as when left turns aren't even possible:

(https://i.imgur.com/LVS5QeX.jpg)

These are especially annoying because Tacoma (and other neighboring cities, like Seattle) have been using calming circles for decades now. I don't understand how these types of errors keep occuring. The engineers (especially new hires) should be familiar with all aspects of their design, operation, and signage needs.

This sign is definitely not normal, and it's also non-compliant with the MUTCD. It appears they used the symbol from regulatory lane assignment signs used in approaching roundabouts.

A more MUTCD-kosher way to sign this would be to use a "roundabout circulatory plaque" (R6-5P).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/MUTCD_R6-5P.svg)
Typically, this would be installed underneath the yield sign on the entrance approach. If there are no yield signs at these intersections, then I could see installing the circulating sign within the circle island instead of the diamond warning signs.

Quote from: jakeroot on April 25, 2020, 06:53:44 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 25, 2020, 06:08:57 PM
Side note: is there anything in the MUTCD banning traffic calming circles in the same way that all-way stops for traffic calming are prohibited?

My understanding is that calming circles are not intersection control devices like a stop sign. Unsigned intersection rules apply at calming circles (at least in Washington State): give way to all vehicle from the right.

I believe the engineering parlance for these types of intersections, where a small circulating island is plopped into an otherwise unmodified intersection, is "mini roundabout". I don't think there's any MUTCD language prohibiting them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on April 26, 2020, 12:54:05 PM
On the other hand, we now have over 200 pages of unique signs!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 01:08:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 26, 2020, 12:39:17 PM
Not stopping at a red light, which I remember you saying you sometimes do, might be fine in your area.

I can count the number of times I've run a red light on purpose on ... two fingers.
Also, I totaled my car a few years ago by accidentally running a red light by T-boning someone else.
When did I say I sometimes run red lights?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on April 26, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 26, 2020, 12:47:41 PM
A more MUTCD-kosher way to sign this would be to use a "roundabout circulatory plaque" (R6-5P).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/MUTCD_R6-5P.svg)
Typically, this would be installed underneath the yield sign on the entrance approach. If there are no yield signs at these intersections, then I could see installing the circulating sign within the circle island instead of the diamond warning signs.

Much like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7782227,-84.2999383,3a,75y,1.59h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKnTkwDSPlycKjDGnphg-qg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKnTkwDSPlycKjDGnphg-qg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D8.932332%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656), except pretending that the local government knows to use YIELD signs for this purpose rather than STOP signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on April 26, 2020, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 01:08:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 26, 2020, 12:39:17 PM
Not stopping at a red light, which I remember you saying you sometimes do, might be fine in your area.

I can count the number of times I've run a red light on purpose on ... two fingers.
Also, I totaled my car a few years ago by accidentally running a red light by T-boning someone else.
When did I say I sometimes run red lights?

I was thinking of this thread:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25406.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: 1 on April 26, 2020, 01:24:57 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 01:08:26 PM

Quote from: 1 on April 26, 2020, 12:39:17 PM
Not stopping at a red light, which I remember you saying you sometimes do, might be fine in your area.

I can count the number of times I've run a red light on purpose on ... two fingers.
Also, I totaled my car a few years ago by accidentally running a red light by T-boning someone else.
When did I say I sometimes run red lights?

I was thinking of this thread:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=25406.0

What I meant is that I don't always stop at stop signs–for example, here in the middle of nowhere (https://goo.gl/maps/tq8Qo2zi9YzBuf127) is one I commonly drive through at 20 mph or more.  Or here's one in a shopping area (https://goo.gl/maps/3DgZeFEWduc7yyjB7) I almost never stop at, especially when turning right.  A lot of stop signs are really pointless.  I suppose I should have only quoted the "Stop sign" part of MNHighwayMan's post instead, for clarity.

Quote from: kphoger on July 26, 2019, 04:15:20 PM
Re: Places you always stop at

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 26, 2019, 03:05:51 PM
Stop sign
Red light

Not me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on April 26, 2020, 05:50:30 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 26, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 26, 2020, 12:47:41 PM
A more MUTCD-kosher way to sign this would be to use a "roundabout circulatory plaque" (R6-5P).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/MUTCD_R6-5P.svg)
Typically, this would be installed underneath the yield sign on the entrance approach. If there are no yield signs at these intersections, then I could see installing the circulating sign within the circle island instead of the diamond warning signs.

Much like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7782227,-84.2999383,3a,75y,1.59h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKnTkwDSPlycKjDGnphg-qg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKnTkwDSPlycKjDGnphg-qg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D8.932332%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656), except pretending that the local government knows to use YIELD signs for this purpose rather than STOP signs.

Even if that is the best sign, I have seen signs like this predominate in other areas:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7661846,-118.1415337,3a,75y,0.93h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-EJ4q9e3FzjbKuxZ180W-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 26, 2020, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 26, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: plain on April 25, 2020, 11:21:24 PM
Try entering street view if you didn't already.

That's what caused the confusion.  You had apparently panned away from the intersection in question before grabbing the link to post.  Therefore, your link didn't actually display a pin on the map or go to Street View of any particular location.  It just showed a map with dozens of intersections in them, the largest circular one of which isn't the one you expected us to look at.

Here's what displayed:

(https://i.imgur.com/l49YH02.png)

Only by zooming out did I realize there was even a pin on the map.

(https://i.imgur.com/gsFSiRl.png)

So I too, like jakeroot, first looked at the big circular intersection in the middle of the map (https://goo.gl/maps/oHop6rSynpCwceMW8)–at which there are no blind corners (because one must yield to the left rather than to the right), it is easy to see if cars are coming...  You can understand the confusion.

Oh, I see.

Maybe it has something to do with linking it using my phone, not sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 27, 2020, 11:02:09 AM
Quote from: mrsman on April 26, 2020, 05:50:30 PM
Quote from: Eth on April 26, 2020, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 26, 2020, 12:47:41 PM
A more MUTCD-kosher way to sign this would be to use a "roundabout circulatory plaque" (R6-5P).
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/MUTCD_R6-5P.svg)
Typically, this would be installed underneath the yield sign on the entrance approach. If there are no yield signs at these intersections, then I could see installing the circulating sign within the circle island instead of the diamond warning signs.

Much like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7782227,-84.2999383,3a,75y,1.59h,91.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKnTkwDSPlycKjDGnphg-qg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKnTkwDSPlycKjDGnphg-qg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D8.932332%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656), except pretending that the local government knows to use YIELD signs for this purpose rather than STOP signs.

Even if that is the best sign, I have seen signs like this predominate in other areas:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7661846,-118.1415337,3a,75y,0.93h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-EJ4q9e3FzjbKuxZ180W-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Even though that's not an MUTCD sign, that might be a better way to sign these situations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
Quick-note: I am intrigued that none of the other calming circles linked since my first post have been unsigned. All of them have included yield signs on entry.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2020, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
Quick-note: I am intrigued that none of the other calming circles linked since my first post have been unsigned. All of them have included yield signs on entry.

I'm too lazy to go back and check, but it's possible they've been posted from states that don't do uncontrolled intersections to begin with.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2020, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
Quick-note: I am intrigued that none of the other calming circles linked since my first post have been unsigned. All of them have included yield signs on entry.

I'm too lazy to go back and check, but it's possible they've been posted from states that don't do uncontrolled intersections to begin with.

Seems so. I thought every state used unsigned intersections in some capacity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2020, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 05:45:57 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2020, 05:13:09 PM

Quote from: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
Quick-note: I am intrigued that none of the other calming circles linked since my first post have been unsigned. All of them have included yield signs on entry.

I'm too lazy to go back and check, but it's possible they've been posted from states that don't do uncontrolled intersections to begin with.

Seems so. I thought every state used unsigned intersections in some capacity.

I assumed so too, until recently on this forum it was pointed out that it isn't the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 27, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Speaking of not stopping at stop signs:

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 27, 2020, 07:10:57 PM
Speaking of not stopping at stop signs:



The British have a remarkably good road safety record, so it's astonishing to watch that video and watch numerous drivers either do California stops or not even slow down at all. Part of me says "they know what's best because they're clearly good on paper", and my other half says "well, if they're that good, why does that intersection perform poorly?"

It's also remarkable to me that an intersection design they consider poor is one that is amazingly common in North America.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 28, 2020, 10:09:53 AM
Is it just me, or does this speed limit sign at Montauk Point State Park date back to the 1960's?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15.jpg/320px-Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on April 28, 2020, 11:44:48 AM
Route marker on NY 120A in CT belongs to neither state: https://goo.gl/maps/5AgN3PFKyM1wWxWb8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 28, 2020, 02:35:50 PM
Saw this sign in rural Washington State. Might not be unique but I've never seen it before. It's a relatively new sign along a gravel road:

"SUMMER ROAD" / "NO WINTER MAINTENANCE" (https://goo.gl/maps/uhEZi5TjnKNouGHW6) (also this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/3dJ8Ldg12hDQMUaY9) from the other direction)

The road (E Bradshaw) stretches a bit over two miles between Old US-195 and Spangle Waverley Road, about 20 miles south of Spokane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 28, 2020, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 07:55:44 PMThe British have a remarkably good road safety record, so it's astonishing to watch that video and watch numerous drivers either do California stops or not even slow down at all. Part of me says "they know what's best because they're clearly good on paper", and my other half says "well, if they're that good, why does that intersection perform poorly?"

I would just observe--since the video narrator does not appear to, as far as I can tell from the closed captioning--that the stop signs are not placed according to the criteria that have traditionally been used in Britain.  Before TSRGD 2012 deregulated stop signs (AIUI), a local council wishing to place a stop sign had to prove a nonremovable sight obstruction before it could get permission from central government.

It seems to me that motorists clearly see there are no visibility limitations and thus act as if the intersection were still subject to Give Way control.

The narrator focuses on car pillars hiding conflicting traffic as a cause of the high accident rate at this location.  But it is not established that this is not a statistical blip.  The mechanism he points to is a subtle human factors problem that, AFAIK, is not currently used as a basis for engineering interventions, and in any event the causal relationship is not proven.  Given that he then goes on to pooh-pooh possible interventions, some of which are widely accepted remedies--lighting, traffic signals, reconstruction as a staggered junction--I'm inclined to suspect an agenda of using motorist noncompliance to justify more stringent enforcement, possibly automated using cameras.

Quote from: jakeroot on April 27, 2020, 07:55:44 PMIt's also remarkable to me that an intersection design they consider poor is one that is amazingly common in North America.

The British preference for two staggered tee junctions over crossroads dates from the 1930's at least.  But I would say the transatlantic differences in this regard are largely a matter of nuance.  Skew intersections are not all that common in the US compared to right-angle crossroads or tee junctions, and in US geometric design it is established practice to prevent skew intersections on new locations (either three- or four-leg) by putting in curves on one or both sides of an intersection so that all of the legs intersect at right angles.  Meanwhile, at diamond interchanges where ramps terminate at unsignalized flat junctions rather than roundabouts, it is more common for these to be staggered in Britain than in the US (compare M40 J9 (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6719984,-0.9591115,16.25z) with Kansas I-235 Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7314781,-97.3801476,17.79z)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on April 28, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2020, 02:35:50 PM
Saw this sign in rural Washington State. Might not be unique but I've never seen it before. It's a relatively new sign along a gravel road:

"SUMMER ROAD" / "NO WINTER MAINTENANCE" (https://goo.gl/maps/uhEZi5TjnKNouGHW6) (also this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/3dJ8Ldg12hDQMUaY9) from the other direction)

The road (E Bradshaw) stretches a bit over two miles between Old US-195 and Spangle Waverley Road, about 20 miles south of Spokane.

Utah uses a somewhat similar sign on roads it doesn't plow during overnight hours. This is on SR 199 near Dugway:

(https://i.imgur.com/fLPidrq.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 29, 2020, 07:17:12 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 28, 2020, 10:09:53 AM
Is it just me, or does this speed limit sign at Montauk Point State Park date back to the 1960's?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15.jpg/320px-Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15.jpg)

That thumbnail is so tiny it's hard to even see the sign. Here's a version cropped from the original.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15_crop.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on April 30, 2020, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: US 89 on April 28, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2020, 02:35:50 PM
Saw this sign in rural Washington State. Might not be unique but I've never seen it before. It's a relatively new sign along a gravel road:

"SUMMER ROAD" / "NO WINTER MAINTENANCE" (https://goo.gl/maps/uhEZi5TjnKNouGHW6) (also this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/3dJ8Ldg12hDQMUaY9) from the other direction)

The road (E Bradshaw) stretches a bit over two miles between Old US-195 and Spangle Waverley Road, about 20 miles south of Spokane.

Utah uses a somewhat similar sign on roads it doesn't plow during overnight hours. This is on SR 199 near Dugway:

(https://i.imgur.com/fLPidrq.jpg)

There any reason they can't plow at night?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on April 30, 2020, 09:44:29 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on April 30, 2020, 09:18:19 AM
Quote from: US 89 on April 28, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 28, 2020, 02:35:50 PM
Saw this sign in rural Washington State. Might not be unique but I've never seen it before. It's a relatively new sign along a gravel road:

"SUMMER ROAD" / "NO WINTER MAINTENANCE" (https://goo.gl/maps/uhEZi5TjnKNouGHW6) (also this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/3dJ8Ldg12hDQMUaY9) from the other direction)

The road (E Bradshaw) stretches a bit over two miles between Old US-195 and Spangle Waverley Road, about 20 miles south of Spokane.

Utah uses a somewhat similar sign on roads it doesn't plow during overnight hours. This is on SR 199 near Dugway:

(https://i.imgur.com/fLPidrq.jpg)

There any reason they can't plow at night?

Not enough traffic to justify it. The more well-used roads will get plowed at night, but roads like this have such low traffic volumes it’s not worth it for UDOT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 30, 2020, 01:09:16 PM
I keep thinking this would be better off on the Traffic Signals board, but as I've been trying to sort our various road sign images in Wikimedia Commons in New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia, and other locations, I've noticed other types of signs on traffic signal masts besides street name signs.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014-05-11_08_24_58_View_south_along_Canal_Boulevard_(New_Jersey_Route_129)_at_Lalor_Street_(Mercer_County_Route_650)_in_Trenton,_New_Jersey.JPG

In the meantime, 25 years ago during the Oklahoma City bombing (yes, it has been that long), I saw footage of One Way signs specifically designed for traffic signal masts (Sorry, I can't find any images of them right now).

Though I don't see that many of those types of signs too often, I'm going to assume they're MUTCD complaint. Am I right or not?



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on April 30, 2020, 04:11:33 PM
^^^ Clicked on the link... "Boy that looks familiar..."  That intersection is down the street from my mother's house lmao.

And yeah, those signs on the masts are SO Jersey. More prevalent in North/Central though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 30, 2020, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 30, 2020, 01:09:16 PM
I keep thinking this would be better off on the Traffic Signals board, but as I've been trying to sort our various road sign images in Wikimedia Commons in New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia, and other locations, I've noticed other types of signs on traffic signal masts besides street name signs.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014-05-11_08_24_58_View_south_along_Canal_Boulevard_(New_Jersey_Route_129)_at_Lalor_Street_(Mercer_County_Route_650)_in_Trenton,_New_Jersey.JPG

In the meantime, 25 years ago during the Oklahoma City bombing (yes, it has been that long), I saw footage of One Way signs specifically designed for traffic signal masts (Sorry, I can't find any images of them right now).

Though I don't see that many of those types of signs too often, I'm going to assume they're MUTCD complaint. Am I right or not?

You're talking about the "no left turn" text sign that looks like it could be a street name sign? I'd estimate that these are MUTCD compliant by virtue that agencies can use any text-based message sign to convey regulation, guidance, etc., and that text versions of "no left turn" and similar were in previous MUTCDs. However, it would be more proper (and probably cheaper for the agencies) to use the standard symbol sign instead this custom version in new installs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 30, 2020, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 30, 2020, 01:09:16 PM
In the meantime, 25 years ago during the Oklahoma City bombing (yes, it has been that long), I saw footage of One Way signs specifically designed for traffic signal masts (Sorry, I can't find any images of them right now).

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but at one time there were a bunch of signals that had double-height street name signs on the mastarm, the bottom half of which was a One Way sign. I'm not sure if any of those are still around; I think they all got replaced during the Project 180 streetscape projects over the last few years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 01, 2020, 08:51:05 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 30, 2020, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 30, 2020, 01:09:16 PM
In the meantime, 25 years ago during the Oklahoma City bombing (yes, it has been that long), I saw footage of One Way signs specifically designed for traffic signal masts (Sorry, I can't find any images of them right now).

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but at one time there were a bunch of signals that had double-height street name signs on the mastarm, the bottom half of which was a One Way sign. I'm not sure if any of those are still around; I think they all got replaced during the Project 180 streetscape projects over the last few years.

Los Angeles hangs the one-way signs from the mast arms as well:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0495613,-118.2459213,3a,75y,16.06h,86.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sODkMVyKIcIYoRLcRMvc_zQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656





Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 01, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
Have they updated the Handicap sign? Im seeing this more (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/ed5eebc6ed0ab8b51940c6a1d783d7f0.jpg)



iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 01, 2020, 06:43:05 PM
See, to me, that looks more like an unfortunate guy falling out of a wheelchair.  I feel kind of bad for him.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 01, 2020, 07:09:45 PM
I've seen the sign a lot in British Columbia. First time I ever saw it was the parking lot of the Sea-to-Sky Gondola north of Vancouver, which had just opened a month prior (in 2014).

Quote from: kphoger on May 01, 2020, 06:43:05 PM
See, to me, that looks more like an unfortunate guy falling out of a wheelchair.  I feel kind of bad for him.

It's this...meant to indicate motion since being in a wheelchair does not mean incapable of movement. Bit PC but it's becoming the norm.

(https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/determined-young-man-in-wheelchair-racing-picture-id926727190)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 01, 2020, 08:46:21 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 01, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
Have they updated the Handicap sign? Im seeing this more (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/ed5eebc6ed0ab8b51940c6a1d783d7f0.jpg)



iPhone
NY jumped on that bandwagon in the name of portraying the handicapped as more physically active.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on May 01, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 01, 2020, 08:46:21 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 01, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
Have they updated the Handicap sign? Im seeing this more (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/ed5eebc6ed0ab8b51940c6a1d783d7f0.jpg)



iPhone
NY jumped on that bandwagon in the name of portraying the handicapped as more physically active.

The top half of the person on the handicap sign looks like it's swimming out of the wheelchair. :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 01, 2020, 09:22:36 PM
To me it looks like the wheelchair person is going really fast and competing in a race.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 01, 2020, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 01, 2020, 09:22:36 PM
To me it looks like the wheelchair person is going really fast and competing in a race.
Its crazy because apple's emoji has been like this for years ♿️

So its funny to see the national handbook accept it.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 05:46:53 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 01, 2020, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 01, 2020, 09:22:36 PM
To me it looks like the wheelchair person is going really fast and competing in a race.
Its crazy because apple's emoji has been like this for years ♿️

So its funny to see the national handbook accept it.

That's just a Unicode character, so it still displays as the standard wheelchair symbol on Linux.

I think the national MUTCD still mandates the traditional wheelchair symbol for now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 02, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 05:46:53 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 01, 2020, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 01, 2020, 09:22:36 PM
To me it looks like the wheelchair person is going really fast and competing in a race.
Its crazy because apple's emoji has been like this for years ♿️

So its funny to see the national handbook accept it.

That's just a Unicode character, so it still displays as the standard wheelchair symbol on Linux.

I think the national MUTCD still mandates the traditional wheelchair symbol for now.
Oh ok makes sense. I think the new "wheelchair symbol"  is better lookin & updated to this current generation.

The older one makes it seem like the person in the wheelchair cant do much.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 02, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Are you guys sure it doesn't mean "unicycle parking only" instead?  Completely different sign and application?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Are you guys sure it doesn't mean "unicycle parking only" instead?  Completely different sign and application?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Symbol_of_Access#Modified_ISA

Quote from: Tonytone on May 02, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
The older one makes it seem like the person in the wheelchair cant do much.

Amusingly, this is probably because originally the symbol was meant to be just the wheelchair, without the head on top. But there was some concern that people would interpret it as being letters instead of a symbol, so a head was added to make it look like one of the symbol stick-figures used for restroom signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 02, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 02, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
The older one makes it seem like the person in the wheelchair cant do much.

[pc]Wouldn't that make me more likely to want them to have a closer parking spot?  If they can't do much, then they need that spot.  If, however, they're active and able, then maybe not so much.[/pc]


Edited to add:  The [pc] tag doesn't seem to be working right now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on May 02, 2020, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 02, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
The older one makes it seem like the person in the wheelchair cant do much.

[pc]Wouldn't that make me more likely to want them to have a closer parking spot?  If they can't do much, then they need that spot.  If, however, they're active and able, then maybe not so much.[/pc]


Edited to add:  The [pc] tag doesn't seem to be working right now.[/size]
Well they arent a vegetable now!

They can do everything except.... ya know.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Edited to add:  The [pc] tag doesn't seem to be working right now.[/size]

Are you posting from your phone? It won't work if you're not posting from a PC, for obvious reasons.

The size tag also seems to be not working right now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Magical Trevor on May 03, 2020, 12:10:05 PM
Old as this installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2118141,-72.6139025,3a,30y,232.46h,99.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spEgM02xVnvk_6lXfnTeyWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) looks, it's been in place less than a decade according to Street View - so why use a red arrow, necessitating a sign advising to go against all convention, instead of a second red ball or just a typical doghouse?

Also, here's something unique: a yellow (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1135767,-72.5237756,3a,15y,218.12h,93.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8DlzvY5RnH7QVRiUrAuIbw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign that flashes black (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1136557,-72.5237745,3a,15y,203.62h,92.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5p6s6SkfgVv-VGoSps5qGg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 03, 2020, 03:46:10 PM
Quote from: Magical Trevor on May 03, 2020, 12:10:05 PM
Old as this installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2118141,-72.6139025,3a,30y,232.46h,99.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spEgM02xVnvk_6lXfnTeyWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) looks, it's been in place less than a decade according to Street View - so why use a red arrow, necessitating a sign advising to go against all convention, instead of a second red ball or just a typical doghouse?

Also, here's something unique: a yellow (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1135767,-72.5237756,3a,15y,218.12h,93.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8DlzvY5RnH7QVRiUrAuIbw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign that flashes black (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1136557,-72.5237745,3a,15y,203.62h,92.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5p6s6SkfgVv-VGoSps5qGg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

Probably the way it seems, there is no point for having this.

But this intersection is basically a one-way to one-way intersection, with a "free" right turn.  The right turn at question does not impede on any traffic, and there is no need for yielding to any other vehicles, but there is a pedestrian crossing over there. 

Now, if there was a real use of that crosswalk, I'd say we need to put in place a ped crossing, with buttons, and with pedestrian signals.  If someone pushes the button, the right turn signal can go red to protect the pedestrian.  Otherwise, there is no point to even stopping this "free" right turn at all.

But given the way it is setup, it seems that the entire right turn signal is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 03, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 11:07:36 PM
The size tag also seems to be not working right now.

I got too loose with nested tags.  Fixed it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 03, 2020, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 03, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 11:07:36 PM
The size tag also seems to be not working right now.

I got too loose with nested tags.  Fixed it.

I learned something new today: size tags have to be on the outside of all tags. Not sure I realized that order mattered (bold, underline, italics, color, URL can all be mixed, but evidently not size tags).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 04, 2020, 02:17:23 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 03, 2020, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 03, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 02, 2020, 11:07:36 PM
The size tag also seems to be not working right now.

I got too loose with nested tags.  Fixed it.

I learned something new today: size tags have to be on the outside of all tags. Not sure I realized that order mattered (bold, underline, italics, color, URL can all be mixed, but evidently not size tags).

Yeah, XML it ain't...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 02, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 02, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
The older one makes it seem like the person in the wheelchair cant do much.

[pc]Wouldn't that make me more likely to want them to have a closer parking spot?  If they can't do much, then they need that spot.  If, however, they're active and able, then maybe not so much.[/pc]


Edited to add:  The [pc] tag doesn't seem to be working right now.
Acctttuallllyyy.... I watched a YouTube video a year or so ago advocating for moving handicap spots to the back of the lot. Around me, handicap parking abuse is completely rampant... I personally know 4 people in my community with a tag: 1) A construction worker who says his knees are awful from climbing up and down ladders and being on his knees all the time. I frequently see him on roofs, etc... I know he's had knee surgery a few times, but... you're running around for work, on a roof... 2) A "Disabled Veteran" neighbor who literally runs for like 3 hours a day. In way better shape then me. 3) A minority who has literally told me she deserves it as reparations, clearly no lack of ability to walk... and the most valid one... 4) an 90+ year old who can't see (no DL), has a caretaker... and every time she goes out, she's ALWAYS dropped off at the door as the parking lot is too dangerous for her. Then the perfectly abled caretaker parks in the handicap spot and walks in to help her inside.

I can't find the video now, but their arguments were basically as follows:
1) Making it the very best, premium spot encourages rampant abuse, so they are less likely to be available to those who need it. This is both by those who get it without really needing it, and the likelihood of the spot getting blocked by those picking others up or just ignoring the signs.
2) It creates envy and resentment of the handicapped and makes the incentives in the wrong direction.
3) These days the handicap generally can qualify for electric scooters and other assistive devices that actually makes it easier for them to park further away
4) They're likely to have much more room around their vehicle to be able to safely operate said devices or wheelchairs

Tesla also realized basically the same set of issues with their supercharger spots. Early stations were built in premium spots, trying to make an advantage of owning a Tesla being that you get upfront, better parking... but in the end, it led to resentment, abuse, vandalism, and EV owners parking in them even when they don't need the spots, reducing the availability for those that do. Tesla moving the spots to the back of the lots pretty much solved all those issues. And stores around here who didn't learn that lesson yet, such as Whole Foods, I can never park my EV at because their is pretty much always an ICE vehicle in them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on May 04, 2020, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 12:09:19 PM
Acctttuallllyyy.... I watched a YouTube video a year or so ago advocating for moving handicap spots to the back of the lot. Around me, handicap parking abuse is completely rampant... I personally know 4 people in my community with a tag: 1) A construction worker who says his knees are awful from climbing up and down ladders and being on his knees all the time. I frequently see him on roofs, etc... I know he's had knee surgery a few times, but... you're running around for work, on a roof... 2) A "Disabled Veteran" neighbor who literally runs for like 3 hours a day. In way better shape then me. 3) A minority who has literally told me she deserves it as reparations, clearly no lack of ability to walk... and the most valid one... 4) an 90+ year old who can't see (no DL), has a caretaker... and every time she goes out, she's ALWAYS dropped off at the door as the parking lot is too dangerous for her. Then the perfectly abled caretaker parks in the handicap spot and walks in to help her inside.

I can't find the video now, but their arguments were basically as follows:
1) Making it the very best, premium spot encourages rampant abuse, so they are less likely to be available to those who need it. This is both by those who get it without really needing it, and the likelihood of the spot getting blocked by those picking others up or just ignoring the signs.
2) It creates envy and resentment of the handicapped and makes the incentives in the wrong direction.
3) These days the handicap generally can qualify for electric scooters and other assistive devices that actually makes it easier for them to park further away
4) They're likely to have much more room around their vehicle to be able to safely operate said devices or wheelchairs

Tesla also realized basically the same set of issues with their supercharger spots. Early stations were built in premium spots, trying to make an advantage of owning a Tesla being that you get upfront, better parking... but in the end, it led to resentment, abuse, vandalism, and EV owners parking in them even when they don't need the spots, reducing the availability for those that do. Tesla moving the spots to the back of the lots pretty much solved all those issues. And stores around here who didn't learn that lesson yet, such as Whole Foods, I can never park my EV at because their is pretty much always an ICE vehicle in them.

In the case of the first three, what the hell are their doctors doing? Do they even need a medical rationale backed by a doctor to get one of the placards?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 04, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on May 04, 2020, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 12:09:19 PM
Acctttuallllyyy.... I watched a YouTube video a year or so ago advocating for moving handicap spots to the back of the lot. Around me, handicap parking abuse is completely rampant... I personally know 4 people in my community with a tag: 1) A construction worker who says his knees are awful from climbing up and down ladders and being on his knees all the time. I frequently see him on roofs, etc... I know he's had knee surgery a few times, but... you're running around for work, on a roof... 2) A "Disabled Veteran" neighbor who literally runs for like 3 hours a day. In way better shape then me. 3) A minority who has literally told me she deserves it as reparations, clearly no lack of ability to walk... and the most valid one... 4) an 90+ year old who can't see (no DL), has a caretaker... and every time she goes out, she's ALWAYS dropped off at the door as the parking lot is too dangerous for her. Then the perfectly abled caretaker parks in the handicap spot and walks in to help her inside.

I can't find the video now, but their arguments were basically as follows:
1) Making it the very best, premium spot encourages rampant abuse, so they are less likely to be available to those who need it. This is both by those who get it without really needing it, and the likelihood of the spot getting blocked by those picking others up or just ignoring the signs.
2) It creates envy and resentment of the handicapped and makes the incentives in the wrong direction.
3) These days the handicap generally can qualify for electric scooters and other assistive devices that actually makes it easier for them to park further away
4) They're likely to have much more room around their vehicle to be able to safely operate said devices or wheelchairs

Tesla also realized basically the same set of issues with their supercharger spots. Early stations were built in premium spots, trying to make an advantage of owning a Tesla being that you get upfront, better parking... but in the end, it led to resentment, abuse, vandalism, and EV owners parking in them even when they don't need the spots, reducing the availability for those that do. Tesla moving the spots to the back of the lots pretty much solved all those issues. And stores around here who didn't learn that lesson yet, such as Whole Foods, I can never park my EV at because their is pretty much always an ICE vehicle in them.

In the case of the first three, what the hell are their doctors doing? Do they even need a medical rationale backed by a doctor to get one of the placards?

You make extremely valid points, but unfortunately, a lot of this stuff is muddled by government and activists.  By law, a certain number of handicapped spaces must be reserved in locations that are close to an entrance, and also leaving a wide aisle for a wheelchair to pass through.  And disability activists will scream bloody murder if you take away any of their "priveleges".  So there is no fix to the problem.

The big cheat with placard has been that in many places they allow you to park free at a meter.  Around here, a number of local jurisdictions have put in place an "all may park all must pay" rule.  Essentially, even those with placards will pay the meter, but if you have a placard you can stay for twice the time (at twice the price).  Abuse is a lot less in these circumstances.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 04, 2020, 06:28:35 PM
Yeah, I don't care how much abuse of the system there is, I'm certainly not in favor of putting them in the back of the lot.  I've seen enough people barely able to walk, shuffling into the store, and I certainly wouldn't want them to have to do so all the way from the other end.

And, really, if you put them in the back of the lot, then what's the point of having handicap spots at all?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on May 04, 2020, 06:46:04 PM
my sister doesn't qualify for anything but her cane - and if she has to park in the back of a parking lot instead of a close handicapped spot when she's having a bad day, it's not happening.

she's also one of those people that on days that she doesn't need her cane (at that moment), she gets berated for "abusing" her handicap placard because she looks like a thirtysomething in good shape. looks can deceive, folks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 04, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: odditude on May 04, 2020, 06:46:04 PM
she's also one of those people that on days that she doesn't need her cane (at that moment), she gets berated for "abusing" her handicap placard because she looks like a thirtysomething in good shape. looks can deceive, folks.

Obviously drifting off the topic here, but I want to echo that this is important to keep in mind when you think you see someone abusing a handicap spot.  Consider the person with a heart condition who otherwise looks healthy but it supposed to limit carrying of items.  I personally know of a person who has a problem with leg circulation which makes him go from walking normally to extreme pain when going too far too quickly.  For that person, a close handicap spot is the difference between being able to go into a store or restaurant on his own or relying on someone to help.  Sure, there's a lot of abuse out there, but don't judge every "able bodied" person you see using a handicap spot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: SectorZ on May 04, 2020, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 12:09:19 PM
Acctttuallllyyy.... I watched a YouTube video a year or so ago advocating for moving handicap spots to the back of the lot. Around me, handicap parking abuse is completely rampant... I personally know 4 people in my community with a tag: 1) A construction worker who says his knees are awful from climbing up and down ladders and being on his knees all the time. I frequently see him on roofs, etc... I know he's had knee surgery a few times, but... you're running around for work, on a roof... 2) A "Disabled Veteran" neighbor who literally runs for like 3 hours a day. In way better shape then me. 3) A minority who has literally told me she deserves it as reparations, clearly no lack of ability to walk... and the most valid one... 4) an 90+ year old who can't see (no DL), has a caretaker... and every time she goes out, she's ALWAYS dropped off at the door as the parking lot is too dangerous for her. Then the perfectly abled caretaker parks in the handicap spot and walks in to help her inside.

I can't find the video now, but their arguments were basically as follows:
1) Making it the very best, premium spot encourages rampant abuse, so they are less likely to be available to those who need it. This is both by those who get it without really needing it, and the likelihood of the spot getting blocked by those picking others up or just ignoring the signs.
2) It creates envy and resentment of the handicapped and makes the incentives in the wrong direction.
3) These days the handicap generally can qualify for electric scooters and other assistive devices that actually makes it easier for them to park further away
4) They're likely to have much more room around their vehicle to be able to safely operate said devices or wheelchairs

Tesla also realized basically the same set of issues with their supercharger spots. Early stations were built in premium spots, trying to make an advantage of owning a Tesla being that you get upfront, better parking... but in the end, it led to resentment, abuse, vandalism, and EV owners parking in them even when they don't need the spots, reducing the availability for those that do. Tesla moving the spots to the back of the lots pretty much solved all those issues. And stores around here who didn't learn that lesson yet, such as Whole Foods, I can never park my EV at because their is pretty much always an ICE vehicle in them.

In the case of the first three, what the hell are their doctors doing? Do they even need a medical rationale backed by a doctor to get one of the placards?
I'm sure part of it is that the people are probably lying to their doctors. Florida's standards for getting one include very subjective things, such as "the ability to walk 200 feet without stopping to rest", which is allowed to include reasons such as breathing issues, heart issues, etc. Or if a doctor recommends you wear a brace while walking, you're set for a handicap decal. And if a doctor says no, you just shop for another doctor who will say yes. I mean, is this issue not in other areas? If you sit in the parking lot at a big box store and watch the handicap spots, usually at least 9 out of 10 people will have no visible reason to need the decal.

Even in the case of the 4th example, why does she really need a decal? She is literally always dropped off. The person parking has the perfect ability to walk. Dropping off a disabled person at the door seems like it'd be preferred so they don't have to cross streets. Thats what the caretaker is doing anyways. If a person who needs a wheelchair and is alone needs the spot, its not going to be available to the caretaker of a disabled person could park there instead?

Quote from: kphoger on May 04, 2020, 06:28:35 PM
Yeah, I don't care how much abuse of the system there is, I'm certainly not in favor of putting them in the back of the lot.  I've seen enough people barely able to walk, shuffling into the store, and I certainly wouldn't want them to have to do so all the way from the other end.

And, really, if you put them in the back of the lot, then what's the point of having handicap spots at all?
The purpose would be for exactly what is depicted on the picture of the sign, people who need extra room around their vehicle so they can easily access their assistive devices and operate it around their vehicle. It also wouldn't necessarily preclude making other changes, such as stores stocking their electric scooter carts at the location of the handicap parking spots so those who park in them don't need to walk through the lot at all. It also helps to make sure those spots are really, really available to those who really need them by stopping the abuse.

Quote from: odditude on May 04, 2020, 06:46:04 PM
my sister doesn't qualify for anything but her cane - and if she has to park in the back of a parking lot instead of a close handicapped spot when she's having a bad day, it's not happening.

she's also one of those people that on days that she doesn't need her cane (at that moment), she gets berated for "abusing" her handicap placard because she looks like a thirtysomething in good shape. looks can deceive, folks.
The interesting thing about placing it in the back of the lot is it doesn't require someone who has a decal to actually utilize those spots... it encourages those who have it for more benign or intermittent issues and don't need the extra space to just grab a regular, smaller parking spot up front if they are mostly able to walk. Because modern handicap spaces are almost double the size of regular ones, there will be a lot more parking available closer to the building for everyone. Again, the same thing happened with EVs. Many people felt those spots were just a privilege, they didn't need the charger. Then when another EV actually needs the plug to get somewhere, the spot is taken up by someone who just wanted it as a preferred spot. Tesla tried to fix this by implementing idling charges, but people would just "fake" plug in the vehicle and nobody would know (other then the screen in the car showing you a spot is available and its not). The fix that worked was installing the spots in a less desirable location.

Infact, Tesla's newest installations also have added "handicapped preferred" spots (not enforceable by law, but a spot or 2 with much more room around the vehicle, and if other spots are all taken its considered ok to take this handicap spot so you can get your needed charge instead of waiting with one sitting empty).... they're placing the handicapped spots the furthermost away of their already far away spots... and my anecdotal experience has been almost 100% of the people using those marked spots need the extra handicap space, so we do have small scale example of this theory working well.

Don't worry, there's a powerful lobby against this idea (the disabled) and at least half the country would have no willingness to so much hear and try to understand the idea. Its not happening.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 05, 2020, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 09:31:47 PM
It also wouldn't necessarily preclude making other changes, such as stores stocking their electric scooter carts at the location of the handicap parking spots so those who park in them don't need to walk through the lot at all. It also helps to make sure those spots are really, really available to those who really need them by stopping the abuse.

...which would require building a weatherproof structure at the back of the parking lot, as well as possibly a charging station (I'm not sure how those carts stay charged).

I've thought about different layouts that involve splitting the handicap spots up, with some at the front and some at the back, but I don't like any layout I've thought of.  I guess I think the current situation is best, even if people abuse it.  And, honestly, I don't personally see so many people abusing it to make me think a change is needed.  I know some do, and I personally at least one who does, but the majority of people I see using handicap spots appear legit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
I'm sure plenty of us here hate it when Interstate Highways have to close, although sometimes they have to. But on the other hand it does create the opportunity for the existence of somewhat unique signage, like this one at an on-ramp to I-90 in Mitchell, South Dakota.

https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/news/4584284-mitchell-drivers-urged-use-caution-i-90-closed-wall-chamberlain

Although I keep thinking perhaps the lights on that gate should be a little bigger.

(https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/incoming/article2689842.ece/alternates/BASE_LANDSCAPE/The%20westbound%20off%20ramp%20to%20Interstate%2090%20from%20South%20Ohlman%20Street%20in%20Mitchell%20is%20closed%20on%20Monday%20morning.%20Interstate%2090%20from%20Mitchell%20to%20Murdo%20was%20closed%20due%20to%20Monday's%20snow%20storm.%20(Matt%20Gade%20%20Republic))
(Not sure I should post this without permission from the photographer, so if it's deleted I'll accept it)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2020, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 29, 2020, 07:17:12 PM
That thumbnail is so tiny it's hard to even see the sign. Here's a version cropped from the original.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15_crop.jpg)
That reminds me; I have to crop two other pictures I took along I-95 in 2019. One is in St. John's County, Florida (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NB_I_95_South_St_Johns_County_Rest_Area_Gore_Sign.jpg) from April, and the other is in Hampton County, South Carolina (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NB_I-95_@_Exit_38;_SC_68_One_Mile.jpg) in November, which I might have to do a second time.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 05, 2020, 12:56:44 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on May 04, 2020, 09:31:47 PM
Even in the case of the 4th example, why does she really need a decal? She is literally always dropped off. The person parking has the perfect ability to walk. Dropping off a disabled person at the door seems like it'd be preferred so they don't have to cross streets. Thats what the caretaker is doing anyways. If a person who needs a wheelchair and is alone needs the spot, its not going to be available to the caretaker of a disabled person could park there instead?
Keep in mind that the more time the caretaker is getting to/from the parking spot, the more time the disabled person is stuck standing in front of the store.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 05, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
The roundabout diamond is not unique, but perhaps the accompanying sign is a bit more unique:

Eastbound Columbia Park Trail @ Steptoe Street, Richland, WA. (https://goo.gl/maps/xDE9rN6njeRk4Qrc9)

(https://i.imgur.com/3myKjGV.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 05, 2020, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 05, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
The roundabout diamond is not unique, but perhaps the accompanying sign is a bit more unique:

Eastbound Columbia Park Trail @ Steptoe Street, Richland, WA. (https://goo.gl/maps/xDE9rN6njeRk4Qrc9)

(https://i.imgur.com/3myKjGV.png)

What's the standard sign an upcoming ramp meter otherwise?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 05, 2020, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 05, 2020, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 05, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
The roundabout diamond is not unique, but perhaps the accompanying sign is a bit more unique:

Eastbound Columbia Park Trail @ Steptoe Street, Richland, WA. (https://goo.gl/maps/xDE9rN6njeRk4Qrc9)

(https://i.imgur.com/3myKjGV.png)

What's the standard sign an upcoming ramp meter otherwise?

It's just a diamond that says "RAMP METERED AHEAD WHEN FLASHING" (https://goo.gl/maps/NYy4f1Kj8hY8g55V8).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 05, 2020, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 05, 2020, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 05, 2020, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 05, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
The roundabout diamond is not unique, but perhaps the accompanying sign is a bit more unique:

Eastbound Columbia Park Trail @ Steptoe Street, Richland, WA. (https://goo.gl/maps/xDE9rN6njeRk4Qrc9)

(https://i.imgur.com/3myKjGV.png)

What's the standard sign an upcoming ramp meter otherwise?

It's just a diamond that says "RAMP METERED AHEAD WHEN FLASHING" (https://goo.gl/maps/NYy4f1Kj8hY8g55V8).

While not too common, it is a good idea in some cases to meter the flow into a roundabout or circle.  It will help even out the flow of traffic and make it easier to merge into the traffic stream of the circle.

Here's a weird application of a metering signal at a traffic circle in Maryland:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2122574,-76.7957173,3a,75y,80.07h,75.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOUYHAEc070FrwrWrcPk1QA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 12, 2020, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 05, 2020, 12:27:10 PM
I'm sure plenty of us here hate it when Interstate Highways have to close, although sometimes they have to. But on the other hand it does create the opportunity for the existence of somewhat unique signage, like this one at an on-ramp to I-90 in Mitchell, South Dakota.

https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/news/4584284-mitchell-drivers-urged-use-caution-i-90-closed-wall-chamberlain

Although I keep thinking perhaps the lights on that gate should be a little bigger.

(https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/incoming/article2689842.ece/alternates/BASE_LANDSCAPE/The%20westbound%20off%20ramp%20to%20Interstate%2090%20from%20South%20Ohlman%20Street%20in%20Mitchell%20is%20closed%20on%20Monday%20morning.%20Interstate%2090%20from%20Mitchell%20to%20Murdo%20was%20closed%20due%20to%20Monday's%20snow%20storm.%20(Matt%20Gade%20%20Republic))
(Not sure I should post this without permission from the photographer, so if it's deleted I'll accept it)
Aurora Gate leds. Should've gotten some 7inch ones.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 15, 2020, 11:26:14 AM
Interesting transposition on this sign on I-80 near Green River, Wyoming:

(https://i.imgur.com/dWKbQJI.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 16, 2020, 03:48:07 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49894934153/in/dateposted-public/
This is very odd even for Florida.  Bring back the kodacolor shields and this would not be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on May 22, 2020, 02:13:28 PM
Who knew that in the road map of emotions, Desire and Panic were just down the road from Paradise? From US 119 south of DuBois, PA.
(https://i.imgur.com/4s3jCnZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on May 22, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "these lanes" used on a sign in this context:

US-90 in Patterson:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6800089,-91.2958751,3a,75y,120.66h,78.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MSD3hsiltRfLHhG2ACGNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Brian556 on May 22, 2020, 10:54:30 PM
Misprinted two way traffic symbols used sideways tells drivers to drive London-style.  Jackson & 5th, Alexandria, LA:
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3114812,-92.4470502,3a,16.4y,176.76h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ZGoKgIyBlqnS9tolRAfyw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3114812,-92.4470502,3a,16.4y,176.76h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ZGoKgIyBlqnS9tolRAfyw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on May 23, 2020, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 22, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "these lanes" used on a sign in this context:

US-90 in Patterson:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6800089,-91.2958751,3a,75y,120.66h,78.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MSD3hsiltRfLHhG2ACGNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That combo made no sense. It wasn't saying "no left turn In the left lane, but use these lanes here to make the left" . My interpretation was, "No left turn. Also, these lanes here exist."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on May 23, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on May 23, 2020, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 22, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "these lanes" used on a sign in this context:

US-90 in Patterson:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6800089,-91.2958751,3a,75y,120.66h,78.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MSD3hsiltRfLHhG2ACGNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That combo made no sense. It wasn't saying "no left turn In the left lane, but use these lanes here to make the left" . My interpretation was, "No left turn. Also, these lanes here exist."

I understood what it meant, but I found it strange. A better sign might point to the lane to the left of the curb and say "Left turns from this lane only." Or use a New Jersey type sign that says "U and Left Turns" with an arrow pointing to that lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 23, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 23, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on May 23, 2020, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 22, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "these lanes" used on a sign in this context:

US-90 in Patterson:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6800089,-91.2958751,3a,75y,120.66h,78.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MSD3hsiltRfLHhG2ACGNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That combo made no sense. It wasn't saying "no left turn In the left lane, but use these lanes here to make the left" . My interpretation was, "No left turn. Also, these lanes here exist."

I understood what it meant, but I found it strange. A better sign might point to the lane to the left of the curb and say "Left turns from this lane only." Or use a New Jersey type sign that says "U and Left Turns" with an arrow pointing to that lane.

The combo made sense to me as well. But in my opinion, the assembly is not even necessary, given the left turn pocket and channelization provided (and a left/U-turn symbol sign provided upstream of it).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 23, 2020, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Brian556 on May 22, 2020, 10:54:30 PM
Misprinted two way traffic symbols used sideways tells drivers to drive London-style.  Jackson & 5th, Alexandria, LA:
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3114812,-92.4470502,3a,16.4y,176.76h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ZGoKgIyBlqnS9tolRAfyw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.3114812,-92.4470502,3a,16.4y,176.76h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ZGoKgIyBlqnS9tolRAfyw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

5th St is a typical two-way street–a warning isn't needed for that.

Even though it does appear that 5th Street is the lone two-way street within the network of numbered one-way streets in this segment of the city, I wouldn't think a warning sign would be necessary. But, lo and behold, this warning treatment exists at every intersecting street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 23, 2020, 06:05:50 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 23, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 23, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on May 23, 2020, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 22, 2020, 03:33:32 PM
I don't think I've ever seen the phrase "these lanes" used on a sign in this context:

US-90 in Patterson:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6800089,-91.2958751,3a,75y,120.66h,78.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6MSD3hsiltRfLHhG2ACGNw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

That combo made no sense. It wasn't saying "no left turn In the left lane, but use these lanes here to make the left" . My interpretation was, "No left turn. Also, these lanes here exist."

I understood what it meant, but I found it strange. A better sign might point to the lane to the left of the curb and say "Left turns from this lane only." Or use a New Jersey type sign that says "U and Left Turns" with an arrow pointing to that lane.

The combo made sense to me as well. But in my opinion, the assembly is not even necessary, given the left turn pocket and channelization provided (and a left/U-turn symbol sign provided upstream of it).

That's what I'm thinking. If they truly have issues, perhaps paint a straight arrow on the left through lane? The current assembly looks like something waiting to get hit/ripped away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stephane Dumas on May 24, 2020, 02:30:26 PM
There's a street in Edmonton who have a forest of street signs who frustrated drivers.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/street-signs-everywhere-edmonton-1.4693399
https://globalnews.ca/news/5020069/edmonton-106-street-signs-removed-reduced/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 24, 2020, 02:52:29 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on May 24, 2020, 02:30:26 PM
There's a street in Edmonton who have a forest of street signs who frustrated drivers.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/street-signs-everywhere-edmonton-1.4693399
https://globalnews.ca/news/5020069/edmonton-106-street-signs-removed-reduced/

Those who are not keen on Clearview are hereby advised against clicking either of those links! Clearview is a lot more common in Western Canada, but this is approaching sensory overload territory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 24, 2020, 08:21:21 PM
Historic Byler Road in northwestern Alabama, as it was the first road to be created by the state.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49866563847_7d51465feb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iYxb7c)

Probably the only brown pentagon sign I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on May 24, 2020, 08:33:37 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 28, 2020, 10:09:53 AM
Is it just me, or does this speed limit sign at Montauk Point State Park date back to the 1960's?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15.jpg/320px-Montauk_Point_State_Park%3B_Speed_Limit_15.jpg)

I know this was a while back, but there are a few speed limit signs in my area (Camden Co, NJ) that have this older style font. I wonder when they're from?

(https://i.postimg.cc/Gh6ktv5k/63-EBD627-6-E34-409-B-9-DC1-27-A1-DC9-BADB9.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 25, 2020, 12:36:23 PM
QuoteProbably the only brown pentagon sign I've ever seen.

Australia uses brown pentagons for Tourist Drives.

http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/au/#img_25
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on May 26, 2020, 10:09:50 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200527/a703bb576416d514bcc59bb45dc4d6fd.jpg)
Here is a weird sign from US 60 in Williamsburg VA, right by Busch gardens!


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on May 27, 2020, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Seeing how this is in Massachusetts, I'm surprised they refer to it as a roundabout instead of a rotary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on May 27, 2020, 01:48:56 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on May 27, 2020, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Seeing how this is in Massachusetts, I'm surprised they refer to it as a roundabout instead of a rotary.

A bit off-topic, but when I was a little kid mostly living in Rockland County, NY with my grandparents, I knew two definitions of "rotary"  - the phone and the traffic circle. For some reason, my little kid brain figured that a local Rotary Club was for road enthusiasts - specifically, road structures like traffic circles... because it made no sense to me to have a club dedicated to rotary phones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 27, 2020, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 26, 2020, 10:09:50 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200527/a703bb576416d514bcc59bb45dc4d6fd.jpg)
Here is a weird sign from US 60 in Williamsburg VA, right by Busch gardens!


iPhone

It's there because there's a tram-like vehicle there that takes people from the parking lot across the street into the park and VDOT wants drivers to be on the lookout for them. Note the double signals at the entrance to the parking lot there... those are for the trams.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 27, 2020, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on May 27, 2020, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Seeing how this is in Massachusetts, I'm surprised they refer to it as a roundabout instead of a rotary.

It is sad to see the demise of the classic ROTARY signs in Mass; they are being replaced with signs with multiple chevrons.  I liked the long right arrow and word ROTARY over the yellow and black stripes; it was uniquely Mass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on May 27, 2020, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on May 27, 2020, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Seeing how this is in Massachusetts, I'm surprised they refer to it as a roundabout instead of a rotary.
Because it isn't a rotary.
Rotaries are large traffic circles with no lane markings.
But AFIAK MassDOT is discontinuing the "rotary" verbage when they do sign replacements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 01:23:54 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on May 26, 2020, 10:09:50 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200527/a703bb576416d514bcc59bb45dc4d6fd.jpg

Here is a weird sign from US 60 in Williamsburg VA, right by Busch gardens!

Similar sign in Tacoma, WA along Steele St (https://goo.gl/maps/KBD3N2WduoZs7zwE7). Absolutely nothing special about this turn. As far as I can tell, this sign legally gives someone the right to "yield on red" (AKA no stop required):

(https://i.imgur.com/HwqxiEQ.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 29, 2020, 11:39:26 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 01:23:54 AM
Similar sign in Tacoma, WA along Steele St (https://goo.gl/maps/KBD3N2WduoZs7zwE7). Absolutely nothing special about this turn. As far as I can tell, this sign legally gives someone the right to "yield on red" (AKA no stop required):

(https://i.imgur.com/HwqxiEQ.png)


I don't think so.  Legally, the word 'yield' is used in two phrases:  'yield sign' and 'yield the right-of-way'.  The first phrase does not apply, because there is no yield sign (which is defined by RCW 47.36.110 to be the sign found in the state's Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for Streets and Highways).  The second phrase is therefore the pertinent one, and it in no way implies that a driver doesn't need to stop before yielding–considering that the phrase is used specifically in RCW 46.61.190(2), which governs stop signs.  That is to say, no verbiage on the sign you posted negates the requirement to stop found in RCW 46.61.055(3)(a) or -(c).



Short version:  "yield on red" does not equal "don't stop on red".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 02:44:44 PM
Great analysis, kphoger. I hadn't thought to look into that closely. I was simply taking the sign at face value as saying "MUST YIELD ON RED" which, to me, says "on red you must yield" but mustn't necessarily stop :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 29, 2020, 03:53:48 PM
Kphoger's argument makes sense, but on the whole I am not sure I completely buy it.  I would want to be satisfied on the following points:

*  If this sign does not actually modify the underlying rule of the road (stop on red and then yield before making a right turn), why is it posted?

*  Is this a standard sign with a design detail and sign code that appears in WSDOT's Sign Fabrication Manual?

*  Assuming it does appear in the manual, can we rule out its being specified in some way in the Washington state MUTCD supplement?

The presence of this sign seems to me also consistent with the agency making a half-assed (and possibly legally improper) attempt to eliminate the requirement to stop before yielding.  There is no right-turn channel lane, so that approach cannot be used, and "continuous right turn" signing (as used in several other states) is not appropriate since there is a yield condition that applies intermittently depending on signal color.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 29, 2020, 03:53:48 PM
*  Is this a standard sign with a design detail and sign code that appears in WSDOT's Sign Fabrication Manual?

Not according to their index (https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/publications/manuals/fulltext/M55-05/NumIndex.pdf) (PDF). It appears to be a one-off.

What does appear very often around the state are "Right Turn On Red Yield To U-Turn (https://goo.gl/maps/U1khoqaYcnHPVuMY9)" signs, but they don't use the word "must" like the sign on Steele St above. Still, it's not in the Sign Fabrication Manual either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 29, 2020, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 04:34:14 PM

Quote from: J N Winkler on May 29, 2020, 03:53:48 PM
*  Is this a standard sign with a design detail and sign code that appears in WSDOT's Sign Fabrication Manual?

Not according to their index (https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/publications/manuals/fulltext/M55-05/NumIndex.pdf) (PDF). It appears to be a one-off.

What does appear very often around the state are "Right Turn On Red Yield To U-Turn (https://goo.gl/maps/U1khoqaYcnHPVuMY9)" signs, but they don't use the word "must" like the sign on Steele St above. Still, it's not in the Sign Fabrication Manual either.

I too was surprised at what seems like a waste of letters and space, using the word "must" when not necessary for driver comprehension.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 29, 2020, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 04:34:14 PM

Quote from: J N Winkler on May 29, 2020, 03:53:48 PM
*  Is this a standard sign with a design detail and sign code that appears in WSDOT's Sign Fabrication Manual?

Not according to their index (https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/publications/manuals/fulltext/M55-05/NumIndex.pdf) (PDF). It appears to be a one-off.

What does appear very often around the state are "Right Turn On Red Yield To U-Turn (https://goo.gl/maps/U1khoqaYcnHPVuMY9)" signs, but they don't use the word "must" like the sign on Steele St above. Still, it's not in the Sign Fabrication Manual either.

I too was surprised at what seems like a waste of letters and space, using the word "must" when not necessary for driver comprehension.

It makes me think of the "LEFT TURN MUST YIELD" sign; you '...must yield' on green, not just all the time. For the sign above, it could potentially be construed that 'right turns must yield on red [after stopping]', but the way it's worded now, with the specific wording "MUST...ON RED" makes me think it's slightly different, especially since the "yield" rule is being forced upon drivers specifically during the red phase (according to the sign).

I fired off an email to WSDOT for clarification. I'll report back if and when I hear more about their intent. My hunch is that the sign might get removed now :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 29, 2020, 10:08:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 29, 2020, 01:23:54 AMSimilar sign in Tacoma, WA along Steele St (https://goo.gl/maps/KBD3N2WduoZs7zwE7). Absolutely nothing special about this turn. As far as I can tell, this sign legally gives someone the right to "yield on red" (AKA no stop required):

(https://i.imgur.com/HwqxiEQ.png)

If that were truly the case, I think the not-so-common "KEEP MOVING" sign would cover that ideal more succinctly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 30, 2020, 01:09:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 29, 2020, 10:08:49 PM
If that were truly the case, I think the not-so-common "KEEP MOVING" sign would cover that ideal more succinctly.

There is no dedicated right turn lane, and the on-ramp is only one lane (unless the meter is on), so traffic does need to yield to other traffic when the light is red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 31, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2020, 01:09:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 29, 2020, 10:08:49 PM
If that were truly the case, I think the not-so-common "KEEP MOVING" sign would cover that ideal more succinctly.

There is no dedicated right turn lane, and the on-ramp is only one lane (unless the meter is on), so traffic does need to yield to other traffic when the light is red.

Given this sign, pedestrians are not allowed to cross at this point.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1613321,-122.46738,3a,75y,167.13h,85.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYtf8rbfc7Y_7keU9sOwHzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

So given the operations of the signal there is only one opportunity to yield.

When northbound Steele has green, there is nobody to yield to at all.  No peds and no other traffic will be in its way.

During part of the time that northbound Steele has red, the off-ramp traffic will have green.  Again, there is no conflict with this movement.

During the other part of the time that northbound Steele has red, southbound Steele has green and green arrow onto the on-ramp.  This is the situation that the sign is speaking to.  Since there is only one lane on the on-ramp, drivers wanting to turn right from northbound Steele to the on-ramp should absolutely yield to the opposing left turn and not inch their way onto the on-ramp.  Perhaps, it is a short left turn arrow and WSDOT does not want right turning interference with the movement. 

Are cars allowed to make the right turn on red? Yes. 

Should they wait at the corner if there are opposing cars wanting to turn left? Yes. 

Is the sign superfluous? Probably, but they may be emphasizing a point to yield to opposing traffic and not try to gun it if they see a gap in the opposing turning traffic and just wait for the green light.  This may be especially true if someone tries to take advantage of a gap that exists because of a truck or other vehicle with slow acceleration from stop.
Perhaps there may have been accidents in the past during this phase.

I recall in another thread someone posted an intersection in Utah at a diamond on-ramp where an electronic no turn on red sign would turn on only during the phase of the opposing left green arrow.  I believe that that sign was posted to accomplish a similar reaction (right turners should not turn when the opposing traffic has a left green arrow).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 31, 2020, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: mrsman on May 31, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
I recall in another thread someone posted an intersection in Utah at a diamond on-ramp where an electronic no turn on red sign would turn on only during the phase of the opposing left green arrow.  I believe that that sign was posted to accomplish a similar reaction (right turners should not turn when the opposing traffic has a left green arrow).

That was probably me, posting about this interchange on I-15 in Centerville:

https://goo.gl/maps/TWexAuAzHRaaRmm8A
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 31, 2020, 09:11:41 PM
Quote from: US 89 on May 31, 2020, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: mrsman on May 31, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
I recall in another thread someone posted an intersection in Utah at a diamond on-ramp where an electronic no turn on red sign would turn on only during the phase of the opposing left green arrow.  I believe that that sign was posted to accomplish a similar reaction (right turners should not turn when the opposing traffic has a left green arrow).

That was probably me, posting about this interchange on I-15 in Centerville:

https://goo.gl/maps/TWexAuAzHRaaRmm8A

Yes that's it!  And I believe I wrote that I believed they enforce the no turn on red during the opposing left turn's phase  was to avoid right turners "interfering" with traffic making the left turn during a short part of the cycle.  If the signal has good sensors, then the entire time that the left green arrow is lit, it is provided for servicing the left turners over all other customers.  Even though there are two lanes to this on-ramp, there is also a dual (left + option) left turn that would need to utilize both lanes.

Overall, the no turn on red is only for a small part of the signal cycle, so it should be no big deal either way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 01, 2020, 09:05:03 AM
Quote from: mrsman on May 31, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
Given this sign, pedestrians are not allowed to cross at this point.

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1613321,-122.46738,3a,75y,167.13h,85.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYtf8rbfc7Y_7keU9sOwHzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And, to further confirm, here is another sign (https://goo.gl/maps/pKRnVu7fWCcCM7PR9) just a few yards down the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 02, 2020, 10:53:28 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49962953423/
Two 3 digit routes.  Two fonts. One assembly.  Same size shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Truvelo on June 04, 2020, 11:26:25 AM
What about this US 41 shield in Indiana. Someone obviously forgot a 1 is narrower than a 4.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcam.uk%2Fd70%2Fus41.jpg&hash=226b974d6733c7337eb83959452289fdb9d2f685)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 04, 2020, 12:19:55 PM
^ If you just center the space between numbers in the center of the shield, then it'll look okay in most cases. That gets a bit harder when you have the narrowest digit and the widest digit together on the same shield...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 04, 2020, 01:13:59 PM
^^^
That's not uncommon on US 41 signs in Kentucky, either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on June 05, 2020, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

You have THIS at the same rotary/traffic circle. Should be a US route shield!
(https://i.imgur.com/w47IzfI.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on June 06, 2020, 02:46:03 PM
Off of Westlake Drive in Middletown, CT. The Mattabesset River lies near this and is the border with Cromwell.

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/bb/3e/fHsphVXx_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/fHsphVXx)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on June 06, 2020, 06:05:47 PM
Can't recall if I have seen parkway abbreviated as Pky before.  Certainly don't recall seeing it as Pky as done on this sign for SB Ellington Parkway near Nashville, TN. (https://goo.gl/maps/UDDRMwkN5JdfNcV96)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on June 07, 2020, 04:59:31 PM
Saw this in Urbana, OH on SR 55 west of US 68. At first I thought it was just pasted to the back of a stop sign, but it's an entirely separate sign mounted on the other side of the post.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200607/f269d3fb653d5244c47b83f29ede5645.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hockeyjohn on June 08, 2020, 12:59:50 PM
Eighth Street in Noblesville, Ind.   The tracks going down the middle of the street were pulled up earlier this year so the sign will soon go, too.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49984958986_9b2bb23a38_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 17, 2020, 03:17:35 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50015992841/
This sign assembly is still here after many decades of life.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on June 17, 2020, 04:57:06 PM
(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/IMG_20200617_153515-crop.jpg)

"STOP HERE ON RED", used at a temporary traffic light that controls a short section of the way that is limited to a single lane due to road work. Quite unusual to see signs with such instructions here compared to the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 17, 2020, 05:55:14 PM
Official hitchhiking spots:  Netherlands (https://goo.gl/maps/JVSGMGb7fYg1d6J5A)

Does this type of sign exist outside the Netherlands?  I seem to remember there having been one somewhere in Colorado about fifteen years ago or so, but I cannot find any reference to it now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on June 17, 2020, 06:58:34 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on June 05, 2020, 10:00:56 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on May 26, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
Found these beauties while perusing GSV.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0980149,-72.5965788,3a,43y,236.37h,89.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfq7-ggsVkGnc4wCivgiDuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

You have THIS at the same rotary/traffic circle. Should be a US route shield!
(https://i.imgur.com/w47IzfI.jpg)


This is why the old Mass paddle --- 5 --->  was always safe!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 17, 2020, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: riiga on June 17, 2020, 04:57:06 PM
(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/IMG_20200617_153515-crop.jpg)

"STOP HERE ON RED", used at a temporary traffic light that controls a short section of the way that is limited to a single lane due to road work. Quite unusual to see signs with such instructions here compared to the US.

That is odd! I don't even see that in the US all the time. There normally wouldn't be a sign, right?

Is there a second signal or just that one?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on June 18, 2020, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 17, 2020, 07:07:47 PM
That is odd! I don't even see that in the US all the time. There normally wouldn't be a sign, right?

Is there a second signal or just that one?
Normally there's just the traffic light and the painted stop line. They've also put up temporary warning signs a few hundered meters back to alert drivers that there's an upcoming traffic light along with the work zone warning.

There's another identical signal about 50 m ahead facing the other direction, taking turns with this one in letting through traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 18, 2020, 12:03:30 PM
Quote from: riiga on June 18, 2020, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 17, 2020, 07:07:47 PMThat is odd! I don't even see that in the US all the time. There normally wouldn't be a sign, right?

Is there a second signal or just that one?

Normally there's just the traffic light and the painted stop line. They've also put up temporary warning signs a few hundred meters back to alert drivers that there's an upcoming traffic light along with the work zone warning.

There's another identical signal about 50 m ahead facing the other direction, taking turns with this one in letting through traffic.

In the US equivalent to this scenario (alternating one-way working controlled by traffic signals), figure 6H-12 in the MUTCD lays out the signs and markings that are to be used, and neither the stop bar nor the "Stop Here On Red [arrow pointing at stop bar]" sign is marked as optional.  Control can also be effected by flaggers or AFADs.

Besides the US, the Swedish sign has an equivalent in Britain (TSRGD diagram 7011, all-uppercase "When Red Light Shows Wait Here" on red background).  Britain also has additional signs to address situations where traffic (not controlled by signals) is allowed to turn off side roads onto the segment subject to one-way working.  I don't think the US has a national standard to cover this, though a few states probably have treatments for it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 19, 2020, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 18, 2020, 12:03:30 PM
In the US equivalent to this scenario (alternating one-way working controlled by traffic signals), figure 6H-12 in the MUTCD lays out the signs and markings that are to be used, and neither the stop bar nor the "Stop Here On Red [arrow pointing at stop bar]" sign is marked as optional.  Control can also be effected by flaggers or AFADs.

This is good to know, because I thought the sign was optional. I don't remember seeing it all the time. Then again, non-flagger temp signals are quite rare in general.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 19, 2020, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 19, 2020, 06:20:42 PMThis is good to know, because I thought the sign was optional. I don't remember seeing it all the time. Then again, non-flagger temp signals are quite rare in general.

I suspect regional preference plays a role.  In Kansas, temporary tricolor signal installations are very common for work on two-lane rural state highway bridges--each signal comes on its own trailer with a folding truss for overhead mounting so it can be seen a long way away.  I can't even remember the last time I saw a flagger on a Kansas project.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on June 20, 2020, 02:21:44 AM
Spotted in Lynnwood, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/kAZBC4J.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on June 20, 2020, 12:52:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce on June 20, 2020, 02:21:44 AM
Spotted in Lynnwood, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/kAZBC4J.jpg)

I remember seeing a sign very similar to this in NC a long time ago but I can't remember where.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 20, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
About that narrow lane sign:

I remember my online driving course noted a yellow diamond version of that sign without the words "NARROW LANE" for narrow bridges. However, I think that sign is the first one in the real world I've ever seen.

Is this narrow lane depiction a relatively new addition to the MUTCD? I know plenty of places in my county alone where that sign would work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 20, 2020, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 20, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
Is this narrow lane depiction a relatively new addition to the MUTCD? I know plenty of places in my county alone where that sign would work.

As far as I know, the only thing resembling this "narrow lane" sign was the "narrow bridge" sign (W5-2A) that was originally included in the 1988 MUTCD, but was removed from the 2000 edition:

(https://i.imgur.com/9QvUeIr.jpg)

(Photo by me, near Olympia, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/C5T8C56jVht8u8NPA)).

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 20, 2020, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 20, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
About that narrow lane sign:

I remember my online driving course noted a yellow diamond version of that sign without the words "NARROW LANE" for narrow bridges. However, I think that sign is the first one in the real world I've ever seen.

Is this narrow lane depiction a relatively new addition to the MUTCD? I know plenty of places in my county alone where that sign would work.

That sign uses an adaption of the symbol from the "narrow bridge" symbolic warning sign (W5-2a) that used to be in the MUTCD. The symbol sign was removed from the MUTCD starting with the 2003 edition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 20, 2020, 07:39:49 PM
I never understood why the "narrow bridge" graphic sign was removed and replaced with text. Back in the 1970s when the graphic signs came into vogue, I imagined what a "narrow bridge" graphic sign would look like, and when it was finally introduced, it was nearly identical to what I had conceived. The rollback to text baffles me. The design seems pretty intuitive and self-explanatory to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 20, 2020, 11:38:31 PM
2nd and 1st Gears on Mineral King Road:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50027595411_c41be5b784_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jdLvbt)IMG_7188 (https://flic.kr/p/2jdLvbt) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50027105058_3a8881cdbc_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jdHZq7)IMG_7223 (https://flic.kr/p/2jdHZq7) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on June 21, 2020, 12:06:48 AM
Kind of a do-it-yourself crossbuck with a faded Yield sign.  Pier B Street (an alternate route for CA 47), Long Beach, CA; Pacific Harbor Lines RR (heritage SP).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50027233698_4b7b5a5faf.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 21, 2020, 04:58:46 AM
A railfan put that up. Look, trains!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 22, 2020, 07:48:36 AM
Seen while out for a walk in our neighborhood. The bottom sign was almost surely posted by residents in that particular area, as I haven't seen a similar one anywhere else near any of the other playgrounds. (I didn't see a proper "Speed Limit 15"  sign, either, so I assume this is unenforceable.)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200622/b9d2c2f15f2c7b007a63534a429ae78b.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on June 24, 2020, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

That is interesting.  What's the specific context here?  What are people crowding this highway for?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 24, 2020, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 24, 2020, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

That is interesting.  What's the specific context here?  What are people crowding this highway for?

IKEA and Jordan's Furniture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on June 24, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Maryland's versions, seen on US 29 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2470351,-76.8292498,3a,42.8y,38.55h,88.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIviz8LKN7OiUoi1QfyQwqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) & I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3069586,-76.780953,3a,46.6y,105.53h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srJwJa5iRlXE2PCYQY3HJ6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) (although unlike the Mass example, these are moreso aimed at weekday commuter traffic).

Sidestory with the I-70 one: the current one replaced an older version in 2018, and the older one never actually flashed (or at least, I never witnessed it myself).  The new one does flash, but only once the upcoming backup at exit 91 reaches a certain length (I believe this camera (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3077924,-76.7582106,3a,75y,88.85h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sco8EtrW0HZchHHR7AQ_mXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a mile past the sign is what triggers it to start flashing, because if there is a backup on the exit 91 ramps but it doesn't spill back onto the mainline and reach that camera, the sign doesn't flash).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on June 24, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 24, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Maryland's versions, seen on US 29 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2470351,-76.8292498,3a,42.8y,38.55h,88.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIviz8LKN7OiUoi1QfyQwqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) & I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3069586,-76.780953,3a,46.6y,105.53h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srJwJa5iRlXE2PCYQY3HJ6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) (although unlike the Mass example, these are moreso aimed at weekday commuter traffic).

Sidestory with the I-70 one: the current one replaced an older version in 2018, and the older one never actually flashed (or at least, I never witnessed it myself).  The new one does flash, but only once the upcoming backup at exit 91 reaches a certain length (I believe this camera (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3077924,-76.7582106,3a,75y,88.85h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sco8EtrW0HZchHHR7AQ_mXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a mile past the sign is what triggers it to start flashing, because if there is a backup on the exit 91 ramps but it doesn't spill back onto the mainline and reach that camera, the sign doesn't flash).

I beleive you are correct from my own experiences along this road. 

With the lack of completion of I-70 into Baltimore, more traffic is pushed onto 695 north than the interchange was designed to handle.  There is a constant slowdown on the ramps as there is a pinch point permitting only one lane of traffic for a brief period right in the heart of the stack.  This interchange needs to be redesigned to allow for a continuous two lane ramp onto 695 north.

As 70 is no longer going to be extended, the full interchange can be totally redesigned and the 70 stub can be closed off.  A type of directional T interchange should work well, maybe something similar to 795/695. There should also be better access from 70 to the Security Square Mall Area.

If that were done, the sign in question would no longer be necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on June 24, 2020, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 24, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Maryland's versions, seen on US 29 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2470351,-76.8292498,3a,42.8y,38.55h,88.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIviz8LKN7OiUoi1QfyQwqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) & I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3069586,-76.780953,3a,46.6y,105.53h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srJwJa5iRlXE2PCYQY3HJ6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) (although unlike the Mass example, these are moreso aimed at weekday commuter traffic).

Sidestory with the I-70 one: the current one replaced an older version in 2018, and the older one never actually flashed (or at least, I never witnessed it myself).  The new one does flash, but only once the upcoming backup at exit 91 reaches a certain length (I believe this camera (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3077924,-76.7582106,3a,75y,88.85h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sco8EtrW0HZchHHR7AQ_mXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a mile past the sign is what triggers it to start flashing, because if there is a backup on the exit 91 ramps but it doesn't spill back onto the mainline and reach that camera, the sign doesn't flash).

I'm quite certain I've seen similar signs on I-75 through Gainesville, FL, but GMSV seems to be failing me at the moment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on June 24, 2020, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: Eth on June 24, 2020, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 24, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 23, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
Massachusetts' way of telling you how popular their highway is:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.193832,-71.0780143,3a,75y,184.96h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGwJWwXVTBGfLyNv8ETk0DA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Maryland's versions, seen on US 29 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2470351,-76.8292498,3a,42.8y,38.55h,88.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIviz8LKN7OiUoi1QfyQwqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) & I-70 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3069586,-76.780953,3a,46.6y,105.53h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srJwJa5iRlXE2PCYQY3HJ6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) (although unlike the Mass example, these are moreso aimed at weekday commuter traffic).

Sidestory with the I-70 one: the current one replaced an older version in 2018, and the older one never actually flashed (or at least, I never witnessed it myself).  The new one does flash, but only once the upcoming backup at exit 91 reaches a certain length (I believe this camera (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3077924,-76.7582106,3a,75y,88.85h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sco8EtrW0HZchHHR7AQ_mXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a mile past the sign is what triggers it to start flashing, because if there is a backup on the exit 91 ramps but it doesn't spill back onto the mainline and reach that camera, the sign doesn't flash).

I'm quite certain I've seen similar signs on I-75 through Gainesville, FL, but GMSV seems to be failing me at the moment.
The problem interchanges were expanded and thus the signs removed a couple years ago:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6809765,-82.4385253,3a,15y,333.56h,90.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snGAXW_h27ou_FggSa5A81g!2e0!5s20150201T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JUHSD-rvalencia on June 25, 2020, 02:00:01 AM
Daly City in my area sometimes uses the wrong font as supposed to the FHWA "Highway Gothic" series of fonts as proscribed in the MUTCD. The font they sometimes use is Univers (Condensed) series of fonts, which is what I normally use for graphics designing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on June 25, 2020, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: mrsman on June 24, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 24, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Sidestory with the I-70 one: the current one replaced an older version in 2018, and the older one never actually flashed (or at least, I never witnessed it myself).  The new one does flash, but only once the upcoming backup at exit 91 reaches a certain length (I believe this camera (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3077924,-76.7582106,3a,75y,88.85h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sco8EtrW0HZchHHR7AQ_mXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a mile past the sign is what triggers it to start flashing, because if there is a backup on the exit 91 ramps but it doesn't spill back onto the mainline and reach that camera, the sign doesn't flash).

I beleive you are correct from my own experiences along this road. 

With the lack of completion of I-70 into Baltimore, more traffic is pushed onto 695 north than the interchange was designed to handle.  There is a constant slowdown on the ramps as there is a pinch point permitting only one lane of traffic for a brief period right in the heart of the stack.  This interchange needs to be redesigned to allow for a continuous two lane ramp onto 695 north.

As 70 is no longer going to be extended, the full interchange can be totally redesigned and the 70 stub can be closed off.  A type of directional T interchange should work well, maybe something similar to 795/695. There should also be better access from 70 to the Security Square Mall Area.

If that were done, the sign in question would no longer be necessary.

Speaking as someone who was commuting thru that interchange pre-COVID, totally agreed with you.  The good news is that replacing the interchange is on MDOT SHA's radar (https://mdot-sha-i695-interc-at-i70-ba006223-maryland.hub.arcgis.com/).

However, I suspect widening the ramp to 2 lanes will only move the bottleneck unless 695 is widened heading north towards 795.  At present, even with that ramp's chokepoint essentially functioning as a ramp meter, 695 is still very sluggish at peak hours heading north out of exits 16 & 17.  If 2-laned, allowing that ramp to flow unrestricted onto 695 would only worsen that next bottleneck since the right lane would then have to end.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on June 25, 2020, 11:20:38 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 25, 2020, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: mrsman on June 24, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 24, 2020, 02:35:18 PM
Sidestory with the I-70 one: the current one replaced an older version in 2018, and the older one never actually flashed (or at least, I never witnessed it myself).  The new one does flash, but only once the upcoming backup at exit 91 reaches a certain length (I believe this camera (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3077924,-76.7582106,3a,75y,88.85h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sco8EtrW0HZchHHR7AQ_mXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) a mile past the sign is what triggers it to start flashing, because if there is a backup on the exit 91 ramps but it doesn't spill back onto the mainline and reach that camera, the sign doesn't flash).

I beleive you are correct from my own experiences along this road. 

With the lack of completion of I-70 into Baltimore, more traffic is pushed onto 695 north than the interchange was designed to handle.  There is a constant slowdown on the ramps as there is a pinch point permitting only one lane of traffic for a brief period right in the heart of the stack.  This interchange needs to be redesigned to allow for a continuous two lane ramp onto 695 north.

As 70 is no longer going to be extended, the full interchange can be totally redesigned and the 70 stub can be closed off.  A type of directional T interchange should work well, maybe something similar to 795/695. There should also be better access from 70 to the Security Square Mall Area.

If that were done, the sign in question would no longer be necessary.

Speaking as someone who was commuting thru that interchange pre-COVID, totally agreed with you.  The good news is that replacing the interchange is on MDOT SHA's radar (https://mdot-sha-i695-interc-at-i70-ba006223-maryland.hub.arcgis.com/).

However, I suspect widening the ramp to 2 lanes will only move the bottleneck unless 695 is widened heading north towards 795.  At present, even with that ramp's chokepoint essentially functioning as a ramp meter, 695 is still very sluggish at peak hours heading north out of exits 16 & 17.  If 2-laned, allowing that ramp to flow unrestricted onto 695 would only worsen that next bottleneck since the right lane would then have to end.

Yes, that is true.  I would say though that the longer you can add a 5th lane there, the better it will be.  So yes, it is preferred all the way to 795, but even an extra half mile will just make it easier for traffic to merge in to the mainlines.  If 695 is flowing well, some of the traffic from the 70 ramps can merge into the three left lanes of 695, leaving the new 4th lane for the rest of the 70 traffic.  There are many freeway to freeway merges that have two laned ramp then go to taper off over all.

I can refer you to the way 95 south merges into 495 toward Silver Spring.  4 lanes of Beltway + 2 lanes from 95 start as 6, then taper to 5, then taper to 4 within about a mile.  Yes, there are still 6 lanes to the first exit (New Hampshire Ave), but the 6 lanes do not go all the way to 270.  This works OK most of the time and only really backs up at heavy times, far less frequent than at 695/70.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on June 25, 2020, 07:15:47 PM
Some of the stop signs in Yellowknife NWT have gone bilingual:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/yellowknife-english-wiliideh-stop-signs-1.5626342

(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5626350.1593053937!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/yellowknife-bilingual-stop-sign.JPG)

Quote"We've been here since time immemorial. We've been here since before the city was established," said Dettah Chief Edward Sangris. "So we wanted to get people to recognize the traditional territory of the Yellowknives Dene, the Wiliideh Dene, in our language."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EJumean on June 25, 2020, 11:52:27 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 25, 2020, 07:15:47 PM
Some of the stop signs in Yellowknife NWT have gone bilingual:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/yellowknife-english-wiliideh-stop-signs-1.5626342

(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5626350.1593053937!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/yellowknife-bilingual-stop-sign.JPG)


Here in Ontario, many of the stop signs in the First Nations reservations have bilingual stop signs, and they obviously vary, depending on the specific Native language spoken. The reservation near my community has signs that read "Nook Shkaan" on the top line and "Stop" on the bottom line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on June 26, 2020, 12:20:49 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on June 25, 2020, 07:15:47 PM
Some of the stop signs in Yellowknife NWT have gone bilingual:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/yellowknife-english-wiliideh-stop-signs-1.5626342

(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5626350.1593053937!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/yellowknife-bilingual-stop-sign.JPG)

Quote"We've been here since time immemorial. We've been here since before the city was established," said Dettah Chief Edward Sangris. "So we wanted to get people to recognize the traditional territory of the Yellowknives Dene, the Wiliideh Dene, in our language."

I suppose Adidas is let through however.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 26, 2020, 09:41:17 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 26, 2020, 12:20:49 AM
I suppose Adidas is let through however.

Let the memes begin!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on June 26, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
Came across this interesting sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1904414,-76.6757593,3a,43.2y,279.57h,88.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKM6Xsr8wek6l7QukAcM4cQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) on MD 170 just outside BWI Airport, which is clearly trying to prevent vehicles from stopping on the light-rail tracks (3M signalheads also make an appearance beyond the tracks, presumably for the same reason).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 26, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 26, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
Came across this interesting sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1904414,-76.6757593,3a,43.2y,279.57h,88.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKM6Xsr8wek6l7QukAcM4cQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) on MD 170 just outside BWI Airport, which is clearly trying to prevent vehicles from stopping on the light-rail tracks (3M signalheads also make an appearance beyond the tracks, presumably for the same reason).

What's even the point of the second set of signals?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on June 26, 2020, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2020, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 26, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
Came across this interesting sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1904414,-76.6757593,3a,43.2y,279.57h,88.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKM6Xsr8wek6l7QukAcM4cQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) on MD 170 just outside BWI Airport, which is clearly trying to prevent vehicles from stopping on the light-rail tracks (3M signalheads also make an appearance beyond the tracks, presumably for the same reason).

What's even the point of the second set of signals?

Reassurance? If they weren't there, I could see a scenario where a left-turning car pulls forward across the tracks, enters the actual intersection, and suddenly panics, unsure whether or not they have the right-of-way.

And maybe the yellow phase on the 2nd set lags behinds the 1st set, to make sure no one gets caught in the middle?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 26, 2020, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 26, 2020, 04:36:17 PM
I could see a scenario where a left-turning car pulls forward across the tracks, enters the actual intersection, and suddenly panics, unsure whether or not they have the right-of-way.

Totally legitimate concern.  You're right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on June 26, 2020, 10:19:42 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on June 26, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
Came across this interesting sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1904414,-76.6757593,3a,43.2y,279.57h,88.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKM6Xsr8wek6l7QukAcM4cQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) on MD 170 just outside BWI Airport, which is clearly trying to prevent vehicles from stopping on the light-rail tracks (3M signalheads also make an appearance beyond the tracks, presumably for the same reason).

"THESE ARE YOUR SIGNALS!"
Don't think I've ever had a sign yell at me before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 26, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50048359948/in/dateposted-public/

This one uses a large panel for one route shield.  Unless GDOT hopes to add control cities some day, GA Hwy. 99 goes no where to a large city unless Boy Scout Estates will blossom into a noteworthy community to be listed on a highway guide..

Most places use a sign one third of this size.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on June 27, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 26, 2020, 10:27:18 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50048359948/in/dateposted-public/

This one uses a large panel for one route shield.  Unless GDOT hopes to add control cities some day, GA Hwy. 99 goes no where to a large city unless Boy Scout Estates will blossom into a noteworthy community to be listed on a highway guide..

Most places use a sign one third of this size.

Certainly interesting, since even elsewhere in Georgia (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0471332,-83.9433517,3a,75y,314.26h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNgZSxs2_QdIKCTz-IH0Nog!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), a smaller sign is used for the same situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 27, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
I'm pretty sure I've posted this before, but just in case I haven't, is this sign (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Irvington_Metro-North-001.jpg) MUTCD-compliant?

Think about one of these (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bellevue_Transit_Center_Scramble_(32886559422).jpg) before you answer.

:biggrin:  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 27, 2020, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 27, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
I'm pretty sure I've posted this before, but just in case I haven't, is this sign (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Irvington_Metro-North-001.jpg) MUTCD-compliant?

Think about one of these (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bellevue_Transit_Center_Scramble_(32886559422).jpg) before you answer.

:biggrin:  :-P

Since it doesn't control traffic, MUTCD compliance is irrelevant.

But it is a nice reuse of sign design and traffic control device for a specific purpose in a public setting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on June 29, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
"High profile vehicles exit here" in Grants, NM, off I-40.
https://www.google.pl/maps/@35.1591045,-107.8849038,3a,75y,122.72h,87.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMbJWgmp0wHL16jN_TeRAkA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 29, 2020, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 29, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
"High profile vehicles exit here"

You mean like the popemobile?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ben114 on June 29, 2020, 03:21:00 PM
I saw this assembly (https://goo.gl/maps/jJtutnaGZdsFb38D7) yesterday, which I believe is the only all-brown "paddle" sign in MA. (at least the only one I know of)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on June 29, 2020, 04:36:45 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted, but this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6950481,-122.0455433,3a,28.3y,93.98h,95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8VQ8yZr_4duTA0b3gVuFnw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) has distances in both miles and km (probably the only one of its kind in the area).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on June 29, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Pertaining to the NARROW LANE/NARROW BRIDGE signs postings upthread a bit, I said I remember a sign in NC but couldn't remember where. I still can't remember but I drove past another one (NARROW BRIDGE) earlier today on I-95. They're on each side approaching Exit 73 (US 421 Dunn).

EDIT: Image is from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200629/956c31bb5b277f05b010aaf8e2df99c2.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 29, 2020, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 29, 2020, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 29, 2020, 01:31:47 PM"High profile vehicles exit here"

You mean like the popemobile?

If memory serves, a nearby segment of I-40 passes through a slot that funnels wind, so I suspect that message is aimed not just at 18-wheelers that have "cubed out," but also box trucks, campers, etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 30, 2020, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 29, 2020, 08:36:14 PM

Quote from: kphoger on June 29, 2020, 03:00:06 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on June 29, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
"High profile vehicles exit here"

You mean like the popemobile?

If memory serves, a nearby segment of I-40 passes through a slot that funnels wind, so I suspect that message is aimed not just at 18-wheelers that have "cubed out," but also box trucks, campers, etc.

Might have missed the joke.  I was interpreting "high profile vehicle" as a vehicle that has wide recognition among the public.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on June 30, 2020, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 29, 2020, 03:00:06 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on June 29, 2020, 01:31:47 PM
"High profile vehicles exit here"

You mean like the popemobile?

Didn't they already try converting the Navajos?  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 30, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on June 29, 2020, 03:21:00 PM
I saw this assembly (https://goo.gl/maps/jJtutnaGZdsFb38D7) yesterday, which I believe is the only all-brown "paddle" sign in MA. (at least the only one I know of)
Hm.  I wonder if there are others in western MA, such as by the Quabbin, Sherwood Forest, or near Natural Bridge and Clarksburg State Parks.  Might be one for Lake Wyola, too, come to think of it (on US 202?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on June 30, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200701/74559ace48a73fb0e5edc5ed5f4e10fe.jpg)
Cool way to sign a dead end!


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on June 30, 2020, 09:26:20 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on June 30, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200701/74559ace48a73fb0e5edc5ed5f4e10fe.jpg)
Cool way to sign a dead end!


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Yes, but its a little hard to see the sign.  It can easily be missed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on July 01, 2020, 12:24:19 AM
The three mini signs on Canada Rd in Lake Forest, CA make me wonder if someone thought the curve should be signed so they made and posted their own signs?

https://goo.gl/maps/P7JMQpTS3bW2PSUb9 (https://goo.gl/maps/P7JMQpTS3bW2PSUb9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 12:38:11 AM
Quote from: MarkF on July 01, 2020, 12:24:19 AM
The three mini signs on Canada Rd in Lake Forest, CA make me wonder if someone thought the curve should be signed so they made and posted their own signs?

https://goo.gl/maps/P7JMQpTS3bW2PSUb9 (https://goo.gl/maps/P7JMQpTS3bW2PSUb9)
Could be that or it could be because a bigger sign could collide with cars or big trucks.


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 01, 2020, 01:03:09 AM
Pushing the button will only make the ped signal appear, not a horse symbol.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50064362962_c2e5b5b584_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jh1WTL)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 01:07:05 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 01, 2020, 01:03:09 AM
Pushing the button will only make the ped signal appear, not a horse symbol.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50064362962_c2e5b5b584_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jh1WTL)
Amish area?


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 01, 2020, 05:38:24 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on July 01, 2020, 01:03:09 AM
Pushing the button will only make the ped signal appear, not a horse symbol.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50064362962_c2e5b5b584_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jh1WTL)

Did you try pushing it? Maybe doing so summons a horse. Or a voice gives you a readout of the day's results from Santa Anita.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 01, 2020, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 01, 2020, 05:38:24 AM
Did you try pushing it? Maybe doing so summons a horse. Or a voice gives you a readout of the day's results from Santa Anita.

It looks like pushing it should summon a horse and rider.

Maybe a mounted police officer will appear and tell you to quit pushing the button.   :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Do you know where this is exactly?

My guess is that even though it my only activate the pedestrian signals, it is a special button for mounted riders.  Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 01, 2020, 11:52:13 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.

It looks like it, anyway.  Look how close the button is to the level of the signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on July 01, 2020, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Do you know where this is exactly?

My guess is that even though it my only activate the pedestrian signals, it is a special button for mounted riders.  Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.

This.  We have horse trails in our town and have quite a few of these.  If there was a shot below the picture depicted, you would see another pedestrian crossing button mounted at normal height.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 06:38:54 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 01, 2020, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Do you know where this is exactly?

My guess is that even though it my only activate the pedestrian signals, it is a special button for mounted riders.  Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.

This.  We have horse trails in our town and have quite a few of these.  If there was a shot below the picture depicted, you would see another pedestrian crossing button mounted at normal height.

May I ask if this is in Burbank, CA near the horse trails by Griffith Park?  I think I remember reading that they installed these buttons there to help cross Riverside Drive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on July 01, 2020, 06:53:56 PM
Very big/noticeable curve signage in OKC:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@35.4341762,-97.4061822,3a,28.1y,296.06h,93.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6lymA-WUIfsDaX44zw6pMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 01, 2020, 06:53:56 PM
Very big/noticeable curve signage in OKC:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@35.4341762,-97.4061822,3a,28.1y,296.06h,93.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6lymA-WUIfsDaX44zw6pMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Ok other then that beautiful sign gantry. If you look in the other direction there are two water towers next to each other. Google mishap or real life?


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 01, 2020, 06:53:56 PM
Very big/noticeable curve signage in OKC:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@35.4341762,-97.4061822,3a,28.1y,296.06h,93.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6lymA-WUIfsDaX44zw6pMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Ok other then that beautiful sign gantry. If you look in the other direction there are two water towers next to each other. Google mishap or real life?


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I think its real, but I'm no expert on OK.

Also, a good nice pictures of the planes parked at the Air Force Base.

The sign is great.  It is needed at many of the sharp mainline curves that exist.    I-90 in Cleveland also has special signage, but this is better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 01, 2020, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on June 29, 2020, 04:36:45 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted, but this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6950481,-122.0455433,3a,28.3y,93.98h,95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8VQ8yZr_4duTA0b3gVuFnw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) has distances in both miles and km (probably the only one of its kind in the area).

A few of those are still scattered around the state. Caltrans posted them in the late 1970s and early 1980s when it looked like metrication might actually happen, and left them alone when it didn't.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 01, 2020, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on June 29, 2020, 04:36:45 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted, but this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6950481,-122.0455433,3a,28.3y,93.98h,95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8VQ8yZr_4duTA0b3gVuFnw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) has distances in both miles and km (probably the only one of its kind in the area).

A few of those are still scattered around the state. Caltrans posted them in the late 1970s and early 1980s when it looked like metrication might actually happen, and left them alone when it didn't.
A sign from the 90's km test? Or a lot of out of country people live in the area?


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 01, 2020, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on June 29, 2020, 04:36:45 PM
Apologies if this has already been posted, but this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6950481,-122.0455433,3a,28.3y,93.98h,95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8VQ8yZr_4duTA0b3gVuFnw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) has distances in both miles and km (probably the only one of its kind in the area).

A few of those are still scattered around the state. Caltrans posted them in the late 1970s and early 1980s when it looked like metrication might actually happen, and left them alone when it didn't.
Delaware still has its KM based milage signs on the highway & exit tabs I believe.

On route 1


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 10:57:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 01, 2020, 06:53:56 PM
Very big/noticeable curve signage in OKC:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@35.4341762,-97.4061822,3a,28.1y,296.06h,93.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6lymA-WUIfsDaX44zw6pMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Ok other then that beautiful sign gantry. If you look in the other direction there are two water towers next to each other. Google mishap or real life?


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I think its real, but I'm no expert on OK.

Also, a good nice pictures of the planes parked at the Air Force Base.

The sign is great.  It is needed at many of the sharp mainline curves that exist.    I-90 in Cleveland also has special signage, but this is better.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/01ba48d1801646ecd337d68a91d0f5c4.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200702/b673a5bb6fc6d5c863e1d83ff9012fd8.jpg)

There are two water towers. I assume the Air Force base is huge. Also a water tower for the area is to the left so that makes 3 water towers in a 1 mile vicinity.

I was thinking the other day, did they change the Gantry   Nation wide to stop graffiti on signs?   


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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 02, 2020, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Do you know where this is exactly?

My guess is that even though it my only activate the pedestrian signals, it is a special button for mounted riders.  Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.

Getchell, Washington (https://goo.gl/maps/B7mKXd5ovJ3r1RsC7).  There are many more dual-level buttons on horse trails, but this is the only I know that substitutes the mounted horse symbol for the walking man.  Most of these trails have rules that riders must dismount when crossing, though the convenient upper button would seem to discourage this.  Maybe you can dismount while waiting for the light to change.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on July 02, 2020, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 06:38:54 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 01, 2020, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Do you know where this is exactly?

My guess is that even though it my only activate the pedestrian signals, it is a special button for mounted riders.  Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.

This.  We have horse trails in our town and have quite a few of these.  If there was a shot below the picture depicted, you would see another pedestrian crossing button mounted at normal height.

May I ask if this is in Burbank, CA near the horse trails by Griffith Park?  I think I remember reading that they installed these buttons there to help cross Riverside Drive.
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 02, 2020, 08:08:36 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 02, 2020, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 06:38:54 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on July 01, 2020, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 01, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Do you know where this is exactly?

My guess is that even though it my only activate the pedestrian signals, it is a special button for mounted riders.  Perhaps the button is up higher than the normal button to account for the higher position of riders on horses and would normally not be reachable by pedestrians.

This.  We have horse trails in our town and have quite a few of these.  If there was a shot below the picture depicted, you would see another pedestrian crossing button mounted at normal height.

May I ask if this is in Burbank, CA near the horse trails by Griffith Park?  I think I remember reading that they installed these buttons there to help cross Riverside Drive.
Fullerton

In a similar vein, this picture at Venice and Sawtelle in Los Angeles shows two buttons to activate the ped crossing parallel to Venice.

https://www.google.pl/maps/@34.01137,-118.4198253,3a,37.5y,142.39h,88.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1XAiM2VPA8axFOHlOVCuvA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


The one under the red signal is for peds.  The one on the right is meant for bicyclists who would be riding in the street.

Truth be told, I don't understand the need for the push buttons at an intersection like this (major/major).  IMO, they only make sense for a low traffic street crosses a major street to activate the call to cross the major street.  I doubt many bicyclists ever push the button as they can cross on normal green and the signal favors Venice anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EpicRoadways on July 02, 2020, 02:13:26 PM
I was doing some snooping around streetview and I came across this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7398035,-93.2691899,3a,23.8y,302.04h,97.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWNICyNM4QLDtstysWOYNbg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DWNICyNM4QLDtstysWOYNbg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D325.85535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)bizarre sequential "exit" sign along a surface street in Burnsville, MN. This road is the first interchange on both I-35W and I-35E after their southern split and the interchanges are super close together, so I guess this was done to prevent confusion and to help eliminate last-minute lane changes. Regardless, it's still strange to see a sign like this not on an expressway. Are there any other cases of local sequential exit signs being installed on non-expressway surface streets, for intersections or major junctions as opposed to interchanges? There's an identical sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7463373,-93.2871016,3a,38.5y,85.05h,98.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7QOuLrSHSErOd33r9JFujQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D7QOuLrSHSErOd33r9JFujQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D249.03922%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) at the other end of the junctions as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on July 02, 2020, 02:40:26 PM
Quote from: EpicRoadways on July 02, 2020, 02:13:26 PM
I was doing some snooping around streetview and I came across this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7398035,-93.2691899,3a,23.8y,302.04h,97.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWNICyNM4QLDtstysWOYNbg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DWNICyNM4QLDtstysWOYNbg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D325.85535%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)bizarre sequential "exit" sign along a surface street in Burnsville, MN. This road is the first interchange on both I-35W and I-35E after their southern split and the interchanges are super close together, so I guess this was done to prevent confusion and to help eliminate last-minute lane changes. Regardless, it's still strange to see a sign like this not on an expressway. Are there any other cases of local sequential exit signs being installed on non-expressway surface streets, for intersections or major junctions as opposed to interchanges? There's an identical sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7463373,-93.2871016,3a,38.5y,85.05h,98.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7QOuLrSHSErOd33r9JFujQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D7QOuLrSHSErOd33r9JFujQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D249.03922%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) at the other end of the junctions as well.

What's equally bizarre to me is the next set of signs, which are placed on two separate cantilever supports instead of a single full gantry.  The signs and supports appear to be of identical age and design, so I can't figure the logic behind this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 02, 2020, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: roadman on July 02, 2020, 02:40:26 PMWhat's equally bizarre to me is the next set of signs, which are placed on two separate cantilever supports instead of a single full gantry.  The signs and supports appear to be of identical age and design, so I can't figure the logic behind this.

Could it be a question of saving the cost of a signbridge?  $30,000 per cantilever versus $100,000 per signbridge suggests a savings of $40,000.  I also wonder if we can exclude the possibility that "similar age and design" in a state like Minnesota corresponds to a difference of a decade or more in installation date.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EpicRoadways on July 02, 2020, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 02, 2020, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: roadman on July 02, 2020, 02:40:26 PMWhat's equally bizarre to me is the next set of signs, which are placed on two separate cantilever supports instead of a single full gantry.  The signs and supports appear to be of identical age and design, so I can't figure the logic behind this.

Could it be a question of saving the cost of a signbridge?  $30,000 per cantilever versus $100,000 per signbridge suggests a savings of $40,000.  I also wonder if we can exclude the possibility that "similar age and design" in a state like Minnesota corresponds to a difference of a decade or more in installation date.

My guess is it probably had to do with cost; setups like that aren't at all uncommon in Minnesota and MNDOT generally avoids full-width gantries unless one absolutely has to be installed because of that added cost. It's also very possible, like you said, that the gantries were installed at different times and have just aged similarly (it's no secret that they're both at least 30-something years old). Given that the western I-35W interchange opened in the late 60s and the eastern I-35E interchange didn't open until the early 80s that's very possible, especially given the first sequential sign I linked is mounted on a different, older 1970s-era gantry. Knowing MNDOT it was probably the former, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on July 03, 2020, 11:17:55 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on July 01, 2020, 06:53:56 PM
Very big/noticeable curve signage in OKC:
https://www.google.pl/maps/@35.4341762,-97.4061822,3a,28.1y,296.06h,93.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6lymA-WUIfsDaX44zw6pMw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Oddly enough, I actually like this sign: just not the fact that there are three of them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I hope nobody else has seen this sign, because I'm going to post it:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899#com5064473

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 03, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I hope nobody else has seen this sign, because I'm going to post it:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899#com5064473

US 192 stays in FL and is only 75 miles long.  It should be demoted to a state highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 03, 2020, 08:57:17 PM
I was surprised to see a "MAXIMUM 60 ENDS" sign in Ontario today. I can't remember ever seeing a "speed limit ends" sign in Ontario without a new speed limit posted. Seems very european.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4193021,-80.1771196,3a,54.2y,302.47h,81.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siU6gj54elGFU7xi8TyzilA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4193021,-80.1771196,3a,54.2y,302.47h,81.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siU6gj54elGFU7xi8TyzilA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on July 04, 2020, 05:06:59 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 03, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I hope nobody else has seen this sign, because I'm going to post it:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899#com5064473

US 192 stays in FL and is only 75 miles long.  It should be demoted to a state highway.
If they did, it will not be demoted to FL 192 (which belongs in the northwestern part of the state), but FL 530 (west of Kissimmee) and FL 500 (east of US 441).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 04, 2020, 09:11:04 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 03, 2020, 08:57:17 PM
I was surprised to see a "MAXIMUM 60 ENDS" sign in Ontario today. I can't remember ever seeing a "speed limit ends" sign in Ontario without a new speed limit posted. Seems very european.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4193021,-80.1771196,3a,54.2y,302.47h,81.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siU6gj54elGFU7xi8TyzilA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4193021,-80.1771196,3a,54.2y,302.47h,81.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siU6gj54elGFU7xi8TyzilA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So what happens, then? Does it default to 80? I think I read somewhere that's the default in Ontario.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 04, 2020, 09:54:53 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50074743053/
A supplemental sign at the base of the main sign.  Both are really to the same place as the Historic Brunswick is the Downtown which is where the connecting road leads to.  Just replace Brunswick with Historic Brunswick and problem solved.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 04, 2020, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on July 01, 2020, 12:38:11 AM
Quote from: MarkF on July 01, 2020, 12:24:19 AM
The three mini signs on Canada Rd in Lake Forest, CA make me wonder if someone thought the curve should be signed so they made and posted their own signs?

https://goo.gl/maps/P7JMQpTS3bW2PSUb9 (https://goo.gl/maps/P7JMQpTS3bW2PSUb9)
Could be that or it could be because a bigger sign could collide with cars or big trucks.

Late to reply on this one, but I'm pretty sure MarkF is on point. Not only are these signs undersized and not to design spec, they are also not installed at the proper height (such that they would not be very visible to drivers if a taller vehicle were parked adjacent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 04, 2020, 03:47:35 PM
Quote from: Verlanka on July 04, 2020, 05:06:59 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 03, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I hope nobody else has seen this sign, because I'm going to post it:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899#com5064473

US 192 stays in FL and is only 75 miles long.  It should be demoted to a state highway.
If they did, it will not be demoted to FL 192 (which belongs in the northwestern part of the state), but FL 530 (west of Kissimmee) and FL 500 (east of US 441).
Actually I wanted to focus on the bike lane vs. car lane warning sign which places the car lane over the water.
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on July 04, 2020, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 04, 2020, 09:11:04 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on July 03, 2020, 08:57:17 PM
I was surprised to see a "MAXIMUM 60 ENDS" sign in Ontario today. I can't remember ever seeing a "speed limit ends" sign in Ontario without a new speed limit posted. Seems very european.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4193021,-80.1771196,3a,54.2y,302.47h,81.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siU6gj54elGFU7xi8TyzilA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4193021,-80.1771196,3a,54.2y,302.47h,81.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siU6gj54elGFU7xi8TyzilA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

So what happens, then? Does it default to 80? I think I read somewhere that's the default in Ontario.

I believe so. 80 seems to be the default rural two-lane speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on July 05, 2020, 06:47:00 PM
Quote from: EpicRoadways on July 02, 2020, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 02, 2020, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: roadman on July 02, 2020, 02:40:26 PMWhat's equally bizarre to me is the next set of signs, which are placed on two separate cantilever supports instead of a single full gantry.  The signs and supports appear to be of identical age and design, so I can't figure the logic behind this.

Could it be a question of saving the cost of a signbridge?  $30,000 per cantilever versus $100,000 per signbridge suggests a savings of $40,000.  I also wonder if we can exclude the possibility that "similar age and design" in a state like Minnesota corresponds to a difference of a decade or more in installation date.

My guess is it probably had to do with cost; setups like that aren't at all uncommon in Minnesota and MNDOT generally avoids full-width gantries unless one absolutely has to be installed because of that added cost. It's also very possible, like you said, that the gantries were installed at different times and have just aged similarly (it's no secret that they're both at least 30-something years old). Given that the western I-35W interchange opened in the late 60s and the eastern I-35E interchange didn't open until the early 80s that's very possible, especially given the first sequential sign I linked is mounted on a different, older 1970s-era gantry. Knowing MNDOT it was probably the former, though.

With respect, and based on my 30+ years experience with BGS signs and support structures, it seems highly improbable to me that a pair of cantilever supports would cost less than a single gantry, unless you're spanning the complete width of the road and not just one direction.  For a similar location in Massachusetts, the cantilever supports would cost about $30K to $32K each, so you're not too far off there.  But a full span gantry for both signs would cost only about $45K to $50K, not $100K (our full span VMS gantries don't even approach $100K).  The foundation for a cantilever support is almost always more complex than the equivalent foundation for one upright of a full span gantry.  That, plus the need to use larger or thicker members in the support design, are what result in the higher cost.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
creative "route shield"

https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8 (https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:32:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
creative "route shield"

https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8 (https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8)

I mean, I don't hate it...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
creative "route shield"

https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8 (https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8)

I mean, I don't hate it...

Yeah, it ended up looking really good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 11:23:59 PM
Probably wouldn't work so well for any street that wasn't just an ordinal, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:13 AM
Odd looking font on the number 58. In my next post it'll show what the font is suppose to look like. I found some odd M-46 signs too I'll have to get a picture of.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/7a2f4655dbb6601ca9531f27c5242896.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
This is what a Michigan State highway sign is suppose to look like.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/16b5d540898d087bbc6bf00dc7debbed.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 10, 2020, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:13 AM
Odd looking font on the number 58. In my next post it'll show what the font is suppose to look like. I found some odd M-46 signs too I'll have to get a picture of.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/7a2f4655dbb6601ca9531f27c5242896.jpg)


I'm no font expert, but it reminds me a lot of Arial Black.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 10:22:32 AM
Quote from: kphoger on July 10, 2020, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:13 AM
Odd looking font on the number 58. In my next post it'll show what the font is suppose to look like. I found some odd M-46 signs too I'll have to get a picture of.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/7a2f4655dbb6601ca9531f27c5242896.jpg)


I'm no font expert, but it reminds me a lot of Arial Black.
It's indeed a thicker font than the usual signs. On M-46 I've located two oversized signs that would go well on this post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on July 10, 2020, 01:04:46 PM
Another one of the interstate shields with the extra I next to the digits. I just happened to catch sight of it while sitting at an intersection. This is Swan Ave at Scenic Hwy (US 61 & 190) in Baton Rouge.


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/845f647e541d81da202245c1efe4bc82.jpg)


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2020, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
creative "route shield"

https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8 (https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8)

I mean, I don't hate it...

Yeah, it ended up looking really good.

Reminds me of how BC used to sign cardinal directions on their big green [and blue] signs (https://goo.gl/maps/zRv9mjKMJvuxWZCb7). Street name always white-on-green [or blue], but the cardinal direction would be black on a white rectangle.

Now they use parentheses instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 10, 2020, 01:51:30 PM
I've driven by this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/8YdWmUUjbn3AsMmB6) probably half a million times, and I've never noticed that one corner (top right) is squared-off.

Anyone have any idea why this might have happened? WA uses full-width exit tabs, so I doubt it would have been for that.

The back of the sign indicates that it was installed in 2006.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 10, 2020, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
This is what a Michigan State highway sign is suppose to look like.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/16b5d540898d087bbc6bf00dc7debbed.jpg)
I never seen a BEGIN banner coupled with a turn arrow before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 10, 2020, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
This is what a Michigan State highway sign is suppose to look like.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/16b5d540898d087bbc6bf00dc7debbed.jpg)
I never seen a BEGIN banner coupled with a turn arrow before.
I never really noticed it myself. There is another one on the next street south (State Street) which is eastbound M-58.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on July 10, 2020, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
creative "route shield"

https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8 (https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8)

I mean, I don't hate it...

Yeah, it ended up looking really good.

Could do with green signs for the direction and arrow plaques so they match though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 11, 2020, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on July 04, 2020, 05:06:59 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 03, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I hope nobody else has seen this sign, because I'm going to post it:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899#com5064473

US 192 stays in FL and is only 75 miles long.  It should be demoted to a state highway.
If they did, it will not be demoted to FL 192 (which belongs in the northwestern part of the state), but FL 530 (west of Kissimmee) and FL 500 (east of US 441).

[ attribution, source ] (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/28268269287/in/photolist-K4YgBe-25YkeKA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/840/28268269287_5dce6cc9ef_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K4YgBe)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 11, 2020, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 10, 2020, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
This is what a Michigan State highway sign is suppose to look like.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/16b5d540898d087bbc6bf00dc7debbed.jpg)
I never seen a BEGIN banner coupled with a turn arrow before.
I never really noticed it myself. There is another one on the next street south (State Street) which is eastbound M-58.

The same thing was installed on both directions of M-20 when M-30 was extended south from US-10 in 2009.

(https://i.imgur.com/S2SMGXM.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on July 11, 2020, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 11, 2020, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 10, 2020, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 10, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
This is what a Michigan State highway sign is suppose to look like.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200710/16b5d540898d087bbc6bf00dc7debbed.jpg)
I never seen a BEGIN banner coupled with a turn arrow before.
I never really noticed it myself. There is another one on the next street south (State Street) which is eastbound M-58.

The same thing was installed on both directions of M-20 when M-30 was extended south from US-10 in 2009.

(https://i.imgur.com/S2SMGXM.jpg)
I haven't really noticed them before. M-20 and M-30 is an area I'm familiar with too. Usually it would just say North M-30 and North M-84 in these two pictures case.

Speaking of M-30 I think they should have extended it further south to M-46.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on July 11, 2020, 12:36:06 PM
This ugly sign can be found on Ojibway Island in Saginaw, MI.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200711/4ac2103b36029b294b0ec9e2e0000838.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rover_0 on July 11, 2020, 02:21:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 08:14:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 09, 2020, 07:32:09 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 09, 2020, 03:02:04 PM
creative "route shield"

https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8 (https://goo.gl/maps/WhNFVrkrNJpxEEpL8)

I mean, I don't hate it...

Yeah, it ended up looking really good.

I agree. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 14, 2020, 12:04:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50112207306/in/dateposted-public/
Typical for GDOT, but the distinction between the END US 319 Business and GA 33 could be made in a different way.  Also US 319 should have a different arrow as SB US 319 is to the right at the junction ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on July 14, 2020, 06:06:11 PM
A sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3363989,-97.0495958,3a,17.2y,51.29h,90.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1st8fIXF9HE4poyYtl2rqiUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) on I-29 between Fargo and Grand Forks. Note the white tabs on the BGS for "EAST" and "WEST," as well as the oversized and center-aligned exit tab. The newer Clearview sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3478768,-97.0496637,3a,22.2y,32.35h,93.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sx4AjgzidfJbKG2zWEWkgug!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) at the exit itself keeps the flawed exit tab but does away with the weird directional tabs and puts an airport decal in the bottom left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 14, 2020, 10:06:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50111954288/in/dateposted-public

Would it not be better to have the GA 155 shield swapped out with US 41 Bus and shift the business banner to the left. After all SR 155 is not a business route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 14, 2020, 10:30:55 PM
^^ That is unusual for a Georgia sign assembly to have a BUSINESS banner.  They usually place BUS on the top side of the route shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 16, 2020, 08:28:38 AM
Speaking of Georgia and there out of sequence mileage signs, here is another bad one.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50119240202/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 18, 2020, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 16, 2020, 08:28:38 AM
Speaking of Georgia and there out of sequence mileage signs, here is another bad one.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50119240202/in/dateposted-public/

I think the sign manufacturer was from Riceboro.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hobsini2 on July 18, 2020, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 14, 2020, 10:06:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50111954288/in/dateposted-public

Would it not be better to have the GA 155 shield swapped out with US 41 Bus and shift the business banner to the left. After all SR 155 is not a business route.
That one is screaming for a new sign assembly.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 28, 2020, 09:53:11 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50162966952/in/dateposted-public/

I find it odd that Unincorporated is larger than the name of the community here along US 319 in Tift County, GA where GDOT is now redoing all their previous road signs with more MUTCD specifications primarily going with mixed case as Georgia was always one to use all caps in signing on off freeway guide signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 02:40:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 28, 2020, 09:53:11 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50162966952/in/dateposted-public/

I find it odd that Unincorporated is larger than the name of the community here along US 319 in Tift County, GA where GDOT is now redoing all their previous road signs with more MUTCD specifications primarily going with mixed case as Georgia was always one to use all caps in signing on off freeway guide signs.

Is it bigger?  It looks to me like the font sizes are equal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 28, 2020, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 02:40:44 PMIs it bigger?  It looks to me like the font sizes are equal.

They are--the same uppercase letter height is used throughout.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on July 28, 2020, 08:23:45 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 28, 2020, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 02:40:44 PMIs it bigger?  It looks to me like the font sizes are equal.

They are--the same uppercase letter height is used throughout.

And with that equal font size, the less important word "unincorporated," by virtue of being longer, takes more space on the sign than the actual community name, which I think was his point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on July 28, 2020, 09:26:33 PM
Quote from: Eth on July 28, 2020, 08:23:45 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 28, 2020, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 02:40:44 PMIs it bigger?  It looks to me like the font sizes are equal.

They are--the same uppercase letter height is used throughout.

And with that equal font size, the less important word "unincorporated," by virtue of being longer, takes more space on the sign than the actual community name, which I think was his point.

UNINCORPORATED appears to be a wider font.  And Kellitown appears to have compressed inter-letter spacing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 29, 2020, 11:29:28 AM
Two Lakes for I-75 SB in Valdosta.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50166341972/in/dateposted-public

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50166214886/in/dateposted-public/

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on July 31, 2020, 12:21:52 AM
This is from my update about Ranger Hill in Texas.  At the bottom and to the left is a sign pointing to a ramp that leads to the freeway.  I guess they didn't have an angled arrow sign, so they just put a straight arrow on crooked.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpatternsandprinciples.com%2Frs%2Frh%2FDSC_1233.jpeg&hash=ba8a922f2a1cb137f45930fe537c2fd05fdbed09)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Interesting speed limit sign near Wheeling, just over the line into Ohio on I-70...
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0717946,-80.7452891,3a,75y,278.06h,91.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuF71yd_Ek_r56krmNw0ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on July 31, 2020, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Interesting speed limit sign near Wheeling, just over the line into Ohio on I-70...
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0717946,-80.7452891,3a,75y,278.06h,91.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuF71yd_Ek_r56krmNw0ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Isn't that what speed limit signs on all Ohio freeways used to look like by default, before they got rid of split speed limits? The October 2007 view at the same spot (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0718174,-80.7453006,3a,75y,314.79h,81.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slP8Adrdb4dR5txjf77Qz_w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1?hl=en) shows a (since-removed) bottom half of the sign showing the truck speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 31, 2020, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 31, 2020, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Interesting speed limit sign near Wheeling, just over the line into Ohio on I-70...
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0717946,-80.7452891,3a,75y,278.06h,91.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuF71yd_Ek_r56krmNw0ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Isn't that what speed limit signs on all Ohio freeways used to look like by default, before they got rid of split speed limits? The October 2007 view at the same spot (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0718174,-80.7453006,3a,75y,314.79h,81.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slP8Adrdb4dR5txjf77Qz_w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1?hl=en) shows a (since-removed) bottom half of the sign showing the truck speed limit.

The upper-half of those signs have been around for at least 15-20 years.  I'm surprised that design is still holding on, considering a standard interstate-grade speed limit sign has to be waayy cheaper to make and erect than those dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 11:19:57 PM
Oh, didn't know that... makes sense why that's there then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on August 02, 2020, 06:42:05 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 31, 2020, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 31, 2020, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Interesting speed limit sign near Wheeling, just over the line into Ohio on I-70...
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0717946,-80.7452891,3a,75y,278.06h,91.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuF71yd_Ek_r56krmNw0ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Isn't that what speed limit signs on all Ohio freeways used to look like by default, before they got rid of split speed limits? The October 2007 view at the same spot (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0718174,-80.7453006,3a,75y,314.79h,81.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slP8Adrdb4dR5txjf77Qz_w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1?hl=en) shows a (since-removed) bottom half of the sign showing the truck speed limit.

The upper-half of those signs have been around for at least 15-20 years.  I'm surprised that design is still holding on, considering a standard interstate-grade speed limit sign has to be waayy cheaper to make and erect than those dinosaurs.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1788632,-84.5913959,3a,75y,172.55h,86.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-dZnmRtL2IjH6lS9KTujrg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Or the bottom half of those signs could just have a white panel placed over the former truck speed limit like this one on I-74 east of Exit 14 in Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 03, 2020, 09:01:14 AM
This is always funny:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7126917,-93.5688691,3a,21.4y,269.62h,90.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6I-tas4njoLTD_bMkzmmDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7126917,-93.5688691,3a,21.4y,269.62h,90.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6I-tas4njoLTD_bMkzmmDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 06:51:30 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 03, 2020, 09:01:14 AM
This is always funny:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7126917,-93.5688691,3a,21.4y,269.62h,90.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6I-tas4njoLTD_bMkzmmDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7126917,-93.5688691,3a,21.4y,269.62h,90.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6I-tas4njoLTD_bMkzmmDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Isn't that where Bill Clinton was born?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 03, 2020, 08:28:03 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on August 02, 2020, 06:42:05 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 31, 2020, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 31, 2020, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Interesting speed limit sign near Wheeling, just over the line into Ohio on I-70...
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0717946,-80.7452891,3a,75y,278.06h,91.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuF71yd_Ek_r56krmNw0ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Isn't that what speed limit signs on all Ohio freeways used to look like by default, before they got rid of split speed limits? The October 2007 view at the same spot (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0718174,-80.7453006,3a,75y,314.79h,81.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slP8Adrdb4dR5txjf77Qz_w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1?hl=en) shows a (since-removed) bottom half of the sign showing the truck speed limit.

The upper-half of those signs have been around for at least 15-20 years.  I'm surprised that design is still holding on, considering a standard interstate-grade speed limit sign has to be waayy cheaper to make and erect than those dinosaurs.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1788632,-84.5913959,3a,75y,172.55h,86.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-dZnmRtL2IjH6lS9KTujrg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Or the bottom half of those signs could just have a white panel placed over the former truck speed limit like this one on I-74 east of Exit 14 in Cincinnati.

IIRC, the Ohio Turnpike was the first interstate to do it that way.

Of course the easiest and cheapest fix would have been to get a reflective 65 sticker to place over the old 55 number...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 03, 2020, 09:10:12 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 31, 2020, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on July 31, 2020, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Ketchup99 on July 31, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Interesting speed limit sign near Wheeling, just over the line into Ohio on I-70...
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0717946,-80.7452891,3a,75y,278.06h,91.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuF71yd_Ek_r56krmNw0ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Isn't that what speed limit signs on all Ohio freeways used to look like by default, before they got rid of split speed limits? The October 2007 view at the same spot (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0718174,-80.7453006,3a,75y,314.79h,81.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slP8Adrdb4dR5txjf77Qz_w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!5m1!1e1?hl=en) shows a (since-removed) bottom half of the sign showing the truck speed limit.

The upper-half of those signs have been around for at least 15-20 years.  I'm surprised that design is still holding on, considering a standard interstate-grade speed limit sign has to be waayy cheaper to make and erect than those dinosaurs.

I remember that style of Ohio speed limit sign as long ago as 1987. The bottom part had a bunch of detailed info about who had to obey the lower limit for larger vehicles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 09:54:57 PM
On the ugly side of signage we have https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.8532156,-76.9833056,3a,72.1y,67.88h,99.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPJtPTeIdvWSXJMKlFxe0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 03, 2020, 10:49:37 PM
Okay, that one just made me laugh. How does that even happen?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 03, 2020, 11:02:48 PM
I really like green...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 04, 2020, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 09:54:57 PM
On the ugly sign of signage we have https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.8532156,-76.9833056,3a,72.1y,67.88h,99.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPJtPTeIdvWSXJMKlFxe0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 03, 2020, 10:49:37 PM
Okay, that one just made me laugh. How does that even happen?

Spin around (the pegman, not you personally), and you can see its counterpart sign is just as big.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ben114 on August 04, 2020, 11:57:36 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 09:54:57 PM
On the ugly sign of signage we have https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.8532156,-76.9833056,3a,72.1y,67.88h,99.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPJtPTeIdvWSXJMKlFxe0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
GDOT hides...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 05, 2020, 08:41:54 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 06:51:30 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 03, 2020, 09:01:14 AM
This is always funny:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7126917,-93.5688691,3a,21.4y,269.62h,90.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6I-tas4njoLTD_bMkzmmDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7126917,-93.5688691,3a,21.4y,269.62h,90.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6I-tas4njoLTD_bMkzmmDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Isn't that where Bill Clinton was born?

Yes
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 05, 2020, 08:54:10 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49455356418/in/dateposted-public/

The street named sign seems so odd being that most signs are usually green.  The City of Tyler, TX has it's own way obviously, however I have seen some places use brown street blades for historic districts neigborhoods as well
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2020, 01:41:09 PM
Is anyone else put off by signposts sticking out of pavement, especially with nothing to protect the signs?

Example, the closed loop on the frontage road at Exit 243A on I-40 in Santa Rosa, New Mexico:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 05, 2020, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2020, 01:41:09 PMIs anyone else put off by signposts sticking out of pavement, especially with nothing to protect the signs?

Example, the closed loop on the frontage road at Exit 243A on I-40 in Santa Rosa, New Mexico:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

I can't say I am a fan--they are certainly ugly--but both of those examples have what appear to be breakaway bases with shear bolts.  To provide guardrail protection might actually increase the hazard to motorists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 05, 2020, 08:24:12 PM
Not sure I've seen this type of arrow before.

Tacoma, WA. Eastbound Wiley Ave just after McKinley/East D intersection:

(https://i.imgur.com/hx5kjSp.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 05, 2020, 08:38:03 PM
I guess this goes in bad. Probably shouldn't take that warning too seriously.

Tacoma, WA. S 'M' St @ S 14th St.

(https://i.imgur.com/VDbd8RA.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 06, 2020, 05:09:46 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 09:54:57 PM
On the ugly side of signage we have https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.8532156,-76.9833056,3a,72.1y,67.88h,99.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPJtPTeIdvWSXJMKlFxe0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I was surprised to discover this is in DC, but admit that its in a part of town that I don't frequent.  Most DC signals do not have larger signs for cross streets, which is unfortunate as those signs are really helpful since the normal street blades are never big enough.  A typical install of a large sign that I see can be seen at the GSV link below.

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9056994,-77.0385673,3a,75y,254.54h,95.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1rOcFo4kJap_PQOeItVafA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I wish the DC signs were generally bigger, but I do agree that the sign STLmapboy posted is indeed ugly.  So make more signs like this all over the city, just not as ugly.

The signs in neighboring Maryland are generally better:

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9775629,-76.9378366,3a,75y,338.37h,89.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO5I_LEUOkEwYbW07umAFyQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It is not too hard to do this right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 07, 2020, 08:04:57 AM
Quote from: mrsman on August 06, 2020, 05:09:46 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 03, 2020, 09:54:57 PM
On the ugly side of signage we have https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.8532156,-76.9833056,3a,72.1y,67.88h,99.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPJtPTeIdvWSXJMKlFxe0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I was surprised to discover this is in DC, but admit that its in a part of town that I don't frequent.  Most DC signals do not have larger signs for cross streets, which is unfortunate as those signs are really helpful since the normal street blades are never big enough.  A typical install of a large sign that I see can be seen at the GSV link below.

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9056994,-77.0385673,3a,75y,254.54h,95.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1rOcFo4kJap_PQOeItVafA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I wish the DC signs were generally bigger, but I do agree that the sign STLmapboy posted is indeed ugly.  So make more signs like this all over the city, just not as ugly.

The signs in neighboring Maryland are generally better:

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9775629,-76.9378366,3a,75y,338.37h,89.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO5I_LEUOkEwYbW07umAFyQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It is not too hard to do this right.
Regarding the last link, how many intersections have route shields with equally sized cardinal direction/arrow signs attached to the shields beneath the street name signs?

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9776468,-76.938004,3a,15y,100.18h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5N_6u6NRIzsXMmsWVQYSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9776468,-76.938004,3a,15y,100.18h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5N_6u6NRIzsXMmsWVQYSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 07, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 07, 2020, 08:04:57 AM


Regarding the last link, how many intersections have route shields with equally sized cardinal direction/arrow signs attached to the shields beneath the street name signs?

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9776468,-76.938004,3a,15y,100.18h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5N_6u6NRIzsXMmsWVQYSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9776468,-76.938004,3a,15y,100.18h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5N_6u6NRIzsXMmsWVQYSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

In MD, it is a fairly common practice whenever a surface street is also a US or state highway - at least on newer traffic signal installations.  It is a good feature.

Here's another example for Georgia Ave - MD 97:

https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.0300667,-77.0476741,3a,75y,224.13h,82.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ4XRoG9HqZmSyNcIfP1O3g!2e0!5s20180801T000000!7i16384!8i8192



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 07, 2020, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 07, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 07, 2020, 08:04:57 AM


Regarding the last link, how many intersections have route shields with equally sized cardinal direction/arrow signs attached to the shields beneath the street name signs?

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9776468,-76.938004,3a,15y,100.18h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5N_6u6NRIzsXMmsWVQYSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9776468,-76.938004,3a,15y,100.18h,95.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR5N_6u6NRIzsXMmsWVQYSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

In MD, it is a fairly common practice whenever a surface street is also a US or state highway - at least on newer traffic signal installations.  It is a good feature.

Here's another example for Georgia Ave - MD 97:

https://www.google.pl/maps/@39.0300667,-77.0476741,3a,75y,224.13h,82.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ4XRoG9HqZmSyNcIfP1O3g!2e0!5s20180801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

MD is the only state I've seen this in. I like their new masts usually, wish they'd use more FYAs instead of doghouses though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 08, 2020, 04:50:20 PM
You've seen school zone speed limits, but have you seen senior citizen facility (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.0531724,-117.0760761,3a,22.7y,231.07h,88.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scCz0gfiAyu6g20T7TkqoFw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) speed limits?
Taken in Northern San Diego.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 08, 2020, 05:10:11 PM
Massachusetts has these at some locations near senior citizen housing.  They're called 'Senior Citizen Safety Zones', and typically use the traditional 'bouncing ball' illuminated speed sign found in school zones, except that the sign reads 'Senior Citizen Safety Zone' instead of 'School Zone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 10, 2020, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 05, 2020, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2020, 01:41:09 PMIs anyone else put off by signposts sticking out of pavement, especially with nothing to protect the signs?

Example, the closed loop on the frontage road at Exit 243A on I-40 in Santa Rosa, New Mexico:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

I can't say I am a fan--they are certainly ugly--but both of those examples have what appear to be breakaway bases with shear bolts.  To provide guardrail protection might actually increase the hazard to motorists.
Well, to me it would make more sense to reopen that loop road and close the other lane.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 10, 2020, 04:43:57 PM
A sign next to the IKEA in Kent, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/RJGbGku.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 10, 2020, 07:10:00 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 10, 2020, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 05, 2020, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 05, 2020, 01:41:09 PMIs anyone else put off by signposts sticking out of pavement, especially with nothing to protect the signs?

Example, the closed loop on the frontage road at Exit 243A on I-40 in Santa Rosa, New Mexico:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9880415,-105.2150045,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-mjF3qsGtijc556kcEY1VA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9882567,-105.2140308,3a,75y,119.66h,93.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1IXhHofeKDiqPuGFQ5M_xA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

I can't say I am a fan--they are certainly ugly--but both of those examples have what appear to be breakaway bases with shear bolts.  To provide guardrail protection might actually increase the hazard to motorists.

Well, to me it would make more sense to reopen that loop road and close the other lane.

This is in a part of the country where 1930's-style wye intersections still exist on conventional-road state highways.

In its current configuration, the intersection does provide too easy a path for traffic to go the wrong way down the off-ramp at open-road speeds.  However, I would personally prefer to rebuild it altogether as a right-angle tee between the ramp and the frontage road, taking especial pains to ensure the S-curve is properly signed.  This better lines up with driver expectancy by avoiding a situation where traffic in one direction has to negotiate a tight loop that is absent in the other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 10, 2020, 11:45:49 PM
Hey, Button Copy alert in Rockland County, New York:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2197143,-74.0252669,3a,90y,316.4h,110.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp1O83QS7eqfuuCoXTpznAw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
That's Willow Grove Road (Rockland CR 98) near the former Letchworth Village funny farm for the retarded (or supposedly retarded) in Thiells, New York.

I found it while I was searching for old Rockland County railroad info.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2020, 07:15:10 PM
Another unusual one in New York. This time in Lower Manhattan at South and Fulton Streets;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 12, 2020, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2020, 07:15:10 PM
Another unusual one in New York. This time in Lower Manhattan at South and Fulton Streets;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Huh?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 12, 2020, 10:59:35 PM
New rule: describe what's at the other end of a link.

:pan: :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 12, 2020, 11:47:17 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 12, 2020, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2020, 07:15:10 PM
Another unusual one in New York. This time in Lower Manhattan at South and Fulton Streets;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Huh?

I assume he was referring to the red bike lane sign
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 13, 2020, 01:22:32 AM
Quote from: US 89 on August 12, 2020, 11:47:17 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 12, 2020, 10:40:18 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 12, 2020, 07:15:10 PM
Another unusual one in New York. This time in Lower Manhattan at South and Fulton Streets;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7062125,-74.0031978,3a,15y,83.09h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0h-3U5lU__gS0MAP4j_zVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Huh?

I assume he was referring to the red bike lane sign
That's it. I thought it was going to be pretty obvious.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Io1jjOl.jpg)

Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 16, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Io1jjOl.jpg)

Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).


Regarding #4, placing the cardinal direction to the left of the shield is now only allowed for stipple-headed diagrammatic signs.  On conventional guide signs for left-hand exits, the cardinal direction is supposed to be to the right of the shield - see MUTCD Figure 2E-15.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 16, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Io1jjOl.jpg)

Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).


Regarding #4, placing the cardinal direction to the left of the shield is now only allowed for stipple-headed diagrammatic signs.  On conventional guide signs for left-hand exits, the cardinal direction is supposed to be to the right of the shield - see MUTCD Figure 2E-15.

That wasn't the case on new installs near me in 2017 and 2018.  Maybe Michigan very recently changed that design standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on August 17, 2020, 12:43:36 AM
Near South Seminole Hospital in Longwood, FL
(https://i.imgur.com/GNrdAhe.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 17, 2020, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 16, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Io1jjOl.jpg)

Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).


Regarding #4, placing the cardinal direction to the left of the shield is now only allowed for stipple-headed diagrammatic signs.  On conventional guide signs for left-hand exits, the cardinal direction is supposed to be to the right of the shield - see MUTCD Figure 2E-15.

That wasn't the case on new installs near me in 2017 and 2018.  Maybe Michigan very recently changed that design standard.

While the national MUTCD chapter 2E only shows the cardinal direction to the left of the shield on figures with diagrammatic signs, I can't find any text that regulates this placement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on August 19, 2020, 07:06:54 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.414837,-71.1516221,3a,15y,116.09h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOn7nDYdHi7XMKL08oXBmoA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 19, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
Take a look at this declarative (https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.0790618,-77.4876457,3a,15y,296.39h,88.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sG-Rw4SQxs1-Te3kZE4aS-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) no parking sign near Rochester NY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 19, 2020, 07:57:46 PM
Quote from: chays on August 17, 2020, 12:43:36 AM
Near South Seminole Hospital in Longwood, FL
(https://i.imgur.com/GNrdAhe.jpg)

Warning: Helicopter May Drop Hot Dogs
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 19, 2020, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on August 19, 2020, 07:06:54 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.414837,-71.1516221,3a,15y,116.09h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOn7nDYdHi7XMKL08oXBmoA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Looks like MassDOT didn't want to climb all the way up the pole. That's a pretty clean light install though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 19, 2020, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 19, 2020, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on August 19, 2020, 07:06:54 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.414837,-71.1516221,3a,15y,116.09h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOn7nDYdHi7XMKL08oXBmoA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Looks like MassDOT didn't want to climb all the way up the pole. That's a pretty clean light install though.

The left turn yield on green sign is really small, do they expect us to see it?  Fortunately, it's a sign that isn't strictly necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 20, 2020, 07:45:15 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 17, 2020, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 16, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
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Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).


Regarding #4, placing the cardinal direction to the left of the shield is now only allowed for stipple-headed diagrammatic signs.  On conventional guide signs for left-hand exits, the cardinal direction is supposed to be to the right of the shield - see MUTCD Figure 2E-15.

That wasn't the case on new installs near me in 2017 and 2018.  Maybe Michigan very recently changed that design standard.

While the national MUTCD chapter 2E only shows the cardinal direction to the left of the shield on figures with diagrammatic signs, I can't find any text that regulates this placement.

I've never entirely understood the reason for sometimes putting the direction to the left. Putting it to the right seems to me to "read logically"–that is, the information appears in the same way you'd say it (in the picture above, you'd tell someone to exit to "10 South" or something similar, not to "South 10"). The only two reasons I could see to put the direction to the left are (1) consistency with reassurance shields on the side of the road where the US rule is to put the direction on top (compare to Quebec, where it goes underneath), and (2) possibly to set the direction off further from an adjacent sign, or an adjacent part of the same sign, that refers to the same road going in a different direction (in the picture above, "South 10" versus "10 North" with the common information "10" going in the "middle").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on August 20, 2020, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 19, 2020, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on August 19, 2020, 07:06:54 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.414837,-71.1516221,3a,15y,116.09h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOn7nDYdHi7XMKL08oXBmoA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Looks like MassDOT didn't want to climb all the way up the pole. That's a pretty clean light install though.

Wish it was a flashing yellow arrow smh. And this is a town installed signal I think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on August 20, 2020, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 17, 2020, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 16, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Io1jjOl.jpg)

Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).


Regarding #4, placing the cardinal direction to the left of the shield is now only allowed for stipple-headed diagrammatic signs.  On conventional guide signs for left-hand exits, the cardinal direction is supposed to be to the right of the shield - see MUTCD Figure 2E-15.

That wasn't the case on new installs near me in 2017 and 2018.  Maybe Michigan very recently changed that design standard.

While the national MUTCD chapter 2E only shows the cardinal direction to the left of the shield on figures with diagrammatic signs, I can't find any text that regulates this placement.

The Guidance statement for diagrammatic sign design includes this:  "Route shields, cardinal directions, and destinations shall be clearly related to the arrowhead."  My guess is that, as the shiled for the right side movement is closest to the arrowhead, someone determined that the shield for the left side movement should be closest to the arrowhead as well, resulting in the placement of the cardinal direction to the left of the shield.  Note that, prior to the 2000 MUTCD, these design criteria were a "shall" statement, and not guidance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 20, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
Not sure if this thread is the best place for this sign assembly, but I simply found the circumstances interesting in terms of two "EAST" signs pointing in opposite directions. It's accurate, though. (Honorable mention to the intersection being in North, Virginia.)

https://goo.gl/maps/n3BJaNVb8DfddDUQ7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Here's WSDOT's equivalent of a wanted poster on an I-90 rest area (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1036204,-119.628804,3a,15y,119.99h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWiep1hVRoPafES08ESxogA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in the Columbia Basin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on August 21, 2020, 06:19:19 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 20, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
Not sure if this thread is the best place for this sign assembly, but I simply found the circumstances interesting in terms of two "EAST" signs pointing in opposite directions. It's accurate, though. (Honorable mention to the intersection being in North, Virginia.)

https://goo.gl/maps/n3BJaNVb8DfddDUQ7

Here in Wayland NY, NORTH goes in three directions:
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5676151,-77.5896752,3a,30y,42.15h,95.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6OG7xw0yV4YiOqQLaHvrlw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

NY 15 north, straight ahead toward Springwater and Rochester
NY 21 north (locally east), right toward Naples and Canandaigua
NY 63 north (locally west), left toward Dansville and Batavia
BONUS: If you are actually headed north, you may be going to Rochester via I-390 — and to get to 390 north, you take NY 15/21 south from this intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2020, 11:01:18 AM
US 221 S Bound in Hazelhurst, GA has this assembly at Connector Highway 135 where the one way pair of US 221 become one again.
https://goo.gl/maps/emNrbGyBugXv2Roz9
What is interesting about this one is the fact that it shows US 221 (and GA 135) going both ways (left and straight) which is true.  To the left is NB and straight is SB.  However, this is from the perspective of one on US 221 and GA 135 SB.  So this is suggesting that both routes split and you can go either way.

IMO opinion just straight arrows should suffice as no one traveling SB will even care about NB unless a mandatory U turn is needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
BC is hyping up its new traffic signals (https://www.google.pl/maps/@49.0456078,-122.7753001,3a,32.3y,3.78h,107.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqxLXMb3bEUKKYWreRcCf8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 21, 2020, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
BC is hyping up its new traffic signals (https://www.google.pl/maps/@49.0456078,-122.7753001,3a,32.3y,3.78h,107.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqxLXMb3bEUKKYWreRcCf8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).

I think those are fairly common in Canada, aren't they?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 21, 2020, 06:11:08 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 21, 2020, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 02:55:18 PM
BC is hyping up its new traffic signals (https://www.google.pl/maps/@49.0456078,-122.7753001,3a,32.3y,3.78h,107.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqxLXMb3bEUKKYWreRcCf8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).

I think those are fairly common in Canada, aren't they?

The "NEW" signs are, but I'm not used to seeing them like that.

The intersection used to be split-phased, hence the unusual sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on August 21, 2020, 07:22:18 PM
I was just in Orange Beach, AL and saw this sign again. It's just odd placement of words because I think most people would read it as North I-10 like I did.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200821/80253b94185f7a8aebdda836b8f3451a.jpg)


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 21, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50250775863_6de4878d9d_c_d.jpg)US route Business shields have a lot to be desired for in some parts of Georgia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 11:11:45 PM
The font (https://www.google.pl/maps/@30.2482637,-81.7563027,3a,27.2y,70.54h,107.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6wnBcYcl294pohqmDRoQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) here is disturbing. Any other road signs with really bad fonts? I know the STL suburb of Clayton has some really bad and hard to read white Gothic street blades (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6414951,-90.3297665,3a,28.8y,213.47h,89.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skC14hmBoxr5rAkipNNYyGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2020, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Here's WSDOT's equivalent of a wanted poster on an I-90 rest area (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1036204,-119.628804,3a,15y,119.99h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWiep1hVRoPafES08ESxogA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in the Columbia Basin.

I thought it would be this sign:

(https://www.roadsideamerica.com/rant/images/jugpee_poster.jpg) (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/47231)

(It's very difficult to find it on GSV in the wild.  The one location I know of is in a weigh station and is too faded to read from a distance.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 22, 2020, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 11:11:45 PM
The font (https://www.google.pl/maps/@30.2482637,-81.7563027,3a,27.2y,70.54h,107.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6wnBcYcl294pohqmDRoQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) here is disturbing. Any other road signs with really bad fonts? I know the STL suburb of Clayton has some really bad and hard to read white Gothic street blades (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6414951,-90.3297665,3a,28.8y,213.47h,89.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skC14hmBoxr5rAkipNNYyGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/).

A "notice" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/Vfhihb6t1TepBys18) with nearly the same font leading up to a bridge.

Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2020, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Here's WSDOT's equivalent of a wanted poster on an I-90 rest area (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1036204,-119.628804,3a,15y,119.99h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWiep1hVRoPafES08ESxogA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in the Columbia Basin.

I thought it would be this sign:

(https://www.roadsideamerica.com/rant/images/jugpee_poster.jpg) (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/47231)

(It's very difficult to find it on GSV in the wild.  The one location I know of is in a weigh station and is too faded to read from a distance.)

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-17-2014/7t6urj.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 22, 2020, 09:32:46 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 20, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
Not sure if this thread is the best place for this sign assembly, but I simply found the circumstances interesting in terms of two "EAST" signs pointing in opposite directions. It's accurate, though. (Honorable mention to the intersection being in North, Virginia.)

https://goo.gl/maps/n3BJaNVb8DfddDUQ7

How about the same cardinal direction pointing in two directions for the SAME ROUTE?  M-22 basically does a 180-degree turn in Northport on its way around the Leelanau Peninsula, so either way from M-201 is South.

(https://i.imgur.com/nubVFWS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TmtFyxq.jpg)

Similar on M-123 in Paradise, but there is minimal signing with no cardinal directions at that intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 22, 2020, 12:19:29 PM
This inverted JUCTION is not only interesting but so is the warning sign beyond it 74 feet between the RR track and intersection is explained very oddly.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50138835752_ff9e157bd8_4k_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 22, 2020, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 22, 2020, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 11:11:45 PM
The font (https://www.google.pl/maps/@30.2482637,-81.7563027,3a,27.2y,70.54h,107.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6wnBcYcl294pohqmDRoQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) here is disturbing. Any other road signs with really bad fonts? I know the STL suburb of Clayton has some really bad and hard to read white Gothic street blades (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6414951,-90.3297665,3a,28.8y,213.47h,89.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skC14hmBoxr5rAkipNNYyGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/).

A "notice" sign (https://goo.gl/maps/Vfhihb6t1TepBys18) with nearly the same font leading up to a bridge.

Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2020, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Here's WSDOT's equivalent of a wanted poster on an I-90 rest area (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1036204,-119.628804,3a,15y,119.99h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWiep1hVRoPafES08ESxogA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in the Columbia Basin.

I thought it would be this sign:

(https://www.roadsideamerica.com/rant/images/jugpee_poster.jpg) (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/47231)

(It's very difficult to find it on GSV in the wild.  The one location I know of is in a weigh station and is too faded to read from a distance.)

(https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-17-2014/7t6urj.gif)
Trailer Park Boys just makes my day so much better. Thank you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 22, 2020, 05:51:33 PM
Business route signed as an interstate (https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.9184329,-114.052452,3a,61.4y,132.69h,87.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6jxmv0mfMNToN8gySJ6yCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in Missoula.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 22, 2020, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 22, 2020, 05:51:33 PM
Business route signed as an interstate (https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.9184329,-114.052452,3a,61.4y,132.69h,87.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6jxmv0mfMNToN8gySJ6yCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in Missoula.

FTFY
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 22, 2020, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: US 89 on August 22, 2020, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 22, 2020, 05:51:33 PM
Business route signed as an interstate (https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.9184329,-114.052452,3a,61.4y,132.69h,87.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6jxmv0mfMNToN8gySJ6yCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in Missoula.

FTFY

Thanks. I really should proofread these.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on August 22, 2020, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 17, 2020, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Quote from: roadman on August 16, 2020, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 16, 2020, 09:45:08 AM

Nothing erroneous or really odd about this, but it strikes me as unusual in several ways.  This gantry and new signs were installed on I-94 in Detroit last year after the Brush Street bridge (behind them) was replaced,

(1)  It's a box gantry, when Michigan has changed almost entirely to trichord triangular gantries.  I otherwise see new box gantries installed only when they are attached to retaining walls.

(2)  Drunken installation crew?  Michigan usually is really good about evenly lining up the bottoms of multiple signs attached to box gantries.  (Not so much on the narrower trichord gantries.)

(3)  Highway Gothic font!

(4)  The sign for southbound M-10 has the LEFT exit tab but doesn't have the cardinal direction to the left of the shield (both became Michigan standard about the same time).


Regarding #4, placing the cardinal direction to the left of the shield is now only allowed for stipple-headed diagrammatic signs.  On conventional guide signs for left-hand exits, the cardinal direction is supposed to be to the right of the shield - see MUTCD Figure 2E-15.

That wasn't the case on new installs near me in 2017 and 2018.  Maybe Michigan very recently changed that design standard.

While the national MUTCD chapter 2E only shows the cardinal direction to the left of the shield on figures with diagrammatic signs, I can't find any text that regulates this placement.

this might not be in the spirit of it.. but i think its funny that a road signed 'north' goes to 'southfield'. cute coincedence, really.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on August 23, 2020, 10:26:19 AM
this sign has always struck me as ugly.. i don't know that there's anything 'noncompliant' about it. it's just aesthetically weird to me. 287 at overland, west/north end.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BnqxJ5U9kKS-QwLrJ13fz_xEvV5dREom/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BnqxJ5U9kKS-QwLrJ13fz_xEvV5dREom/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 24, 2020, 07:40:06 PM
You know how some railroad crossing warning signs have a supplemental sign underneath that says "Rough Crossing?" This one just says "Rough."
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7940718,-81.9777729,3a,75y,77.4h,84.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZfjlAPtfP31537gPSkZd3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.7940718,-81.9777729,3a,75y,77.4h,84.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZfjlAPtfP31537gPSkZd3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
With a speed advisory sign underneath.

Edited for Typographical error
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on August 24, 2020, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 24, 2020, 07:40:06 PM
With a speed advisory song underneath.
♫♪ Keep your speed really low
     Just take it nice and slow ♫♪
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on August 24, 2020, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 11:11:45 PM
The font (https://www.google.pl/maps/@30.2482637,-81.7563027,3a,27.2y,70.54h,107.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6wnBcYcl294pohqmDRoQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) here is disturbing. Any other road signs with really bad fonts? I know the STL suburb of Clayton has some really bad and hard to read white Gothic street blades (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6414951,-90.3297665,3a,28.8y,213.47h,89.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skC14hmBoxr5rAkipNNYyGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/).

how about the street signs for the whole city of San Luis Obispo, which are all in Tolkien font on brown (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2824297,-120.6598681,3a,70.3y,338.57h,91.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.768549%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 24, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on August 24, 2020, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 11:11:45 PM
The font (https://www.google.pl/maps/@30.2482637,-81.7563027,3a,27.2y,70.54h,107.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6wnBcYcl294pohqmDRoQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) here is disturbing. Any other road signs with really bad fonts? I know the STL suburb of Clayton has some really bad and hard to read white Gothic street blades (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6414951,-90.3297665,3a,28.8y,213.47h,89.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skC14hmBoxr5rAkipNNYyGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/).

how about the street signs for the whole city of San Luis Obispo, which are all in Tolkien font on brown (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2824297,-120.6598681,3a,70.3y,338.57h,91.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.768549%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)

Jesus Christ I hate it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 25, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 24, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on August 24, 2020, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 21, 2020, 11:11:45 PM
The font (https://www.google.pl/maps/@30.2482637,-81.7563027,3a,27.2y,70.54h,107.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6wnBcYcl294pohqmDRoQA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) here is disturbing. Any other road signs with really bad fonts? I know the STL suburb of Clayton has some really bad and hard to read white Gothic street blades (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6414951,-90.3297665,3a,28.8y,213.47h,89.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skC14hmBoxr5rAkipNNYyGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/).

how about the street signs for the whole city of San Luis Obispo, which are all in Tolkien font on brown (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2824297,-120.6598681,3a,70.3y,338.57h,91.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.768549%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)

Jesus Christ I hate it.

Still better than those of Thousand Oaks, California...where the hard-to-read street blade fonts (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1782386,-118.8719342,3a,20.5y,246.92h,86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQVd1wa4dY-GqV0GeCcsRMQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) resemble chorizos (https://flic.kr/p/36pKHB) or dog turds (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HmFH-QUffFw/maxresdefault.jpg).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tdindy88 on August 25, 2020, 10:03:36 AM
Santa Barbara, California has the same kind of street signs. Is there something about that kind of font in Southern California?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 25, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
Something about the font is reminiscent of the old Spanish missions, and Native Americans in general.  It should be noted that SLO, SB and Thousand Oaks run along the El Camino Real.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 25, 2020, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 22, 2020, 05:51:33 PM
Business route signed as an interstate (https://www.google.pl/maps/@46.9184329,-114.052452,3a,61.4y,132.69h,87.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6jxmv0mfMNToN8gySJ6yCw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in Missoula.

Oh my, that's bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 25, 2020, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 25, 2020, 03:11:38 PM
Something about the font is reminiscent of the old Spanish missions, and Native Americans in general.  It should be noted that SLO, SB and Thousand Oaks run along the El Camino Real.

Oh, yes, they have a reason for non-compliance with the MUTCD. That doesn't mean it's a good reason.

H.B., if you're in this thread, this is why the MUTCD specifies font usage.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on August 25, 2020, 09:26:08 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 24, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on August 24, 2020, 09:06:43 PM

how about the street signs for the whole city of San Luis Obispo, which are all in Tolkien font on brown (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2824297,-120.6598681,3a,70.3y,338.57h,91.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DBJbrHujvbpATZJoCv_C-aQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D26.768549%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)

Jesus Christ I hate it.

Hahaha this gave me great joy to read.  I also hate it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on August 25, 2020, 10:20:01 PM
Are Yield signs at railroad crossings common? I thought that was rather tacit information.

(https://i.imgur.com/3TBq6AF.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 26, 2020, 06:58:03 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2020, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Here's WSDOT's equivalent of a wanted poster on an I-90 rest area (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1036204,-119.628804,3a,15y,119.99h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWiep1hVRoPafES08ESxogA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in the Columbia Basin.

I thought it would be this sign:

(https://www.roadsideamerica.com/rant/images/jugpee_poster.jpg) (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/47231)

(It's very difficult to find it on GSV in the wild.  The one location I know of is in a weigh station and is too faded to read from a distance.)
So just dump it in a toilet when you reach one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 26, 2020, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: chays on August 25, 2020, 10:20:01 PM
Are Yield signs at railroad crossings common? I thought that was rather tacit information.

Yes, depending on the area.

See MUTCD (2009), Chapter 8B

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig8b_02.gif)

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig8b_03_1.gif)

Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 26, 2020, 06:58:03 AM

Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 22, 2020, 12:20:47 AM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM

Here's WSDOT's equivalent of a wanted poster on an I-90 rest area (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.1036204,-119.628804,3a,15y,119.99h,90.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWiep1hVRoPafES08ESxogA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in the Columbia Basin.

I thought it would be this sign:

(https://www.roadsideamerica.com/rant/images/jugpee_poster.jpg) (https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/47231)

(It's very difficult to find it on GSV in the wild.  The one location I know of is in a weigh station and is too faded to read from a distance.)

So just dump it in a toilet when you reach one.

That was my thought.  Heck, at least dump the urine out of the jug onto the ground, rather than leaving the whole jug somewhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on August 26, 2020, 10:28:19 AM
This is a really strange place to put your route markers at an intersection... https://goo.gl/maps/NMmHV1oV9jdiEWQEA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 26, 2020, 12:07:05 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50269199767/in/dateposted-public/
The US 221 shield in this photo seems out of place as the building is dead ahead for one direction of US 221 to be.  However, look at the GA 135 shield and go to GSV (if necessary) and you will see why the arrow is that way.

GA 135 S Bound does a jog over as the alignments on both sides of US 129 do not line up head to head, so to remain on GA 135 one must turn right and then an immediate left.  Also US 221 comes in from continuing GA 135 and then turns to the left going the wrong way on US 129 (as US 129 heads south and US 221 goes north) to a point east of the city where the two routes depart for opposite directions.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50269199767_ad410bcee9_h_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 26, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
Well that's (https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.0995784,-89.2664856,3a,30.2y,353h,94.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssiq0T2D_mkZfEewAiwQYfA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one way to prep for a signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 26, 2020, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 26, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
Well that's (https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.0995784,-89.2664856,3a,30.2y,353h,94.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssiq0T2D_mkZfEewAiwQYfA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one way to prep for a signal.

Is a signal actually coming here?  It seems like they have had that configuration on old GSV's since 2016.  Sometimes they do this to make the stop signs more visible, without an actual signal being planned.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 26, 2020, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 26, 2020, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 26, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
Well that's (https://www.google.pl/maps/@43.0995784,-89.2664856,3a,30.2y,353h,94.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssiq0T2D_mkZfEewAiwQYfA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one way to prep for a signal.

Is a signal actually coming here?  It seems like they have had that configuration on old GSV's since 2016.  Sometimes they do this to make the stop signs more visible, without an actual signal being planned.

Yeah, on second thought these are scattered around Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 26, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 26, 2020, 09:54:14 AM



That was my thought.  Heck, at least dump the urine out of the jug onto the ground, rather than leaving the whole jug somewhere.

I think these are being disposed of at freeway speeds.  If you try to dump liquid out the window, it will be blown back in.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 27, 2020, 01:12:34 PM
I really don't understand the spelling here:

Old Redmond Road; Redmond, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/uf7LXePBL8whUPPJ9) (actually an older sign -- I think the sign is stolen a lot)

(https://i.imgur.com/CxlGZdr.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 27, 2020, 01:44:32 PM
The duck's name is Gus.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on August 27, 2020, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 27, 2020, 01:12:34 PM
I really don't understand the spelling here:

Old Redmond Road; Redmond, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/uf7LXePBL8whUPPJ9) (actually an older sign -- I think the sign is stolen a lot)

(https://i.imgur.com/CxlGZdr.jpg)

Maybe a reference to Gus the Duck from the Donald Duck universe?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 27, 2020, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 27, 2020, 01:44:32 PM
The duck's name is Gus.

Gus Goose?

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mickey-and-friends/images/3/39/387390072.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150209003808)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 28, 2020, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

That reminds me of these signs (https://goo.gl/maps/E4v9HmQycvskiHjG6) in Monclova, Coahuila.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on August 28, 2020, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 28, 2020, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

That reminds me of these signs (https://goo.gl/maps/E4v9HmQycvskiHjG6) in Monclova, Coahuila.

Out near me, we have these (https://goo.gl/maps/BaPdUQxQWZr78waf9), which claim "SYNCHRONIZED TRAFFIC SIGNAL FOR VEHICLE SPEED OF 45 MPH" and, in smaller type, "DURING PEAK TRAFFIC HOURS".

Personally, I don't believe there's any signal synchronization being done over this ~3.5-mile stretch, and it's just a ploy by the residents to try to get traffic to slow down, since they were unsuccessful in actually getting the speed limit lowered from 55 to 45.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 28, 2020, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 28, 2020, 01:39:10 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

That reminds me of these signs (https://goo.gl/maps/E4v9HmQycvskiHjG6) in Monclova, Coahuila.

There's one in Québec City (https://goo.gl/maps/JReBWjHNnRQvmJyS7) too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on August 28, 2020, 04:39:29 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on August 28, 2020, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 28, 2020, 01:39:10 PM
<snipped>

There's one in Québec City (https://goo.gl/maps/JReBWjHNnRQvmJyS7) too.

There's a similar one in Pleasanton, CA (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6648881,-121.8428625,3a,75y,259.01h,84.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spwJ-anQE-OLcHaZwvnxr-w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
Anyone ever seen an interstate mileage sign this small (https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.7308151,-85.8725248,3a,23.2y,104.77h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVMHTdil-Di4f75zdQHjEwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on August 28, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

This is close to an I1-1 in the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 06:44:59 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on August 28, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

This is close to an I1-1 in the MUTCD.
What is that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on August 28, 2020, 06:51:06 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
Anyone ever seen an interstate mileage sign this small (https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.7308151,-85.8725248,3a,23.2y,104.77h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVMHTdil-Di4f75zdQHjEwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/)?

They have important tolls to collect; forget you and your trip to Toledo. Pay them. You'll get there when you get there.  :-D :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on August 28, 2020, 06:58:37 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 06:44:59 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on August 28, 2020, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

This is close to an I1-1 in the MUTCD.
What is that?

Page 293. https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009r1r2/part2gand2h.pdf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on August 29, 2020, 05:12:12 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
Anyone ever seen an interstate mileage sign this small (https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.7308151,-85.8725248,3a,23.2y,104.77h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVMHTdil-Di4f75zdQHjEwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/)?

Not quite that small, but NYSDOT put up some (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0156739,-77.6602602,3a,75y,34.43h,82.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shAm3rczfzylTJyk4ecQIPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) decidedly (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0422685,-77.6506423,3a,75y,217.72h,87.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7yqL2s-YU-z-Ee1eSKqnlA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) undersized (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0671809,-77.6371952,3a,37.5y,242.53h,87.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNE45oSsf6frsOKjQ4eJezw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNE45oSsf6frsOKjQ4eJezw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D21.732044%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) ones on I-390 near the Thruway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on August 29, 2020, 08:51:59 AM
Has anyone ever seen a stop sign with a backplate? This stop sign in Danville, KY had to get a backplate after the church across the road installed a bright red metal roof. Drivers were losing the stop sign in the roof. It's been like this for years now.

https://goo.gl/maps/HJd9cRDrQvGkDyeq5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 29, 2020, 09:24:09 AM
Quote from: CardInLex on August 29, 2020, 08:51:59 AM
Has anyone ever seen a stop sign with a backplate? This stop sign in Danville, KY had to get a backplate after the church across the road installed a bright red metal roof. Drivers were losing the stop sign in the roof. It's been like this for years now.

https://goo.gl/maps/HJd9cRDrQvGkDyeq5

I like it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on August 29, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
How about a 'Right Turns Obey Right Arrow' sign in LaGrange, IL? (https://goo.gl/maps/aAJJnbPDY7HEa1nG9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 29, 2020, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on August 29, 2020, 05:12:12 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
Anyone ever seen an interstate mileage sign this small (https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.7308151,-85.8725248,3a,23.2y,104.77h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVMHTdil-Di4f75zdQHjEwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/)?

Not quite that small, but NYSDOT put up some (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0156739,-77.6602602,3a,75y,34.43h,82.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shAm3rczfzylTJyk4ecQIPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) decidedly (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0422685,-77.6506423,3a,75y,217.72h,87.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7yqL2s-YU-z-Ee1eSKqnlA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) undersized (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0671809,-77.6371952,3a,37.5y,242.53h,87.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNE45oSsf6frsOKjQ4eJezw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNE45oSsf6frsOKjQ4eJezw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D21.732044%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) ones on I-390 near the Thruway.
There's also the "DeWitt 3" sign on I-481 NB just after leaving I-81 south of Syracuse.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 30, 2020, 11:46:10 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on August 29, 2020, 12:07:46 PM
How about a 'Right Turns Obey Right Arrow' sign in LaGrange, IL? (https://goo.gl/maps/aAJJnbPDY7HEa1nG9)

So unnecessarily complicated.  Just put up a sign "no turn on red arrow" and call it a day.  Only need one sign on the right side of that intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 30, 2020, 03:31:16 PM
Then in DC there are some that say "Turn Right on Green -> Only":

https://goo.gl/maps/epQfXUQUHWzMeRrj9

I hate those intersections because at some of them, including the one shown, the green arrow comes on at the end of the cycle. You can guess what that means: It's borderline impossible to turn right without running the light because the pedestrians flat-out refuse to stop crossing when the "Don't Walk" sign comes on with the green arrow and they get extremely belligerent if a driver forces the issue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EpicRoadways on August 30, 2020, 10:14:12 PM
A few years ago Minnesota inexplicably began replacing some aging overhead sign assemblies with some bizarre permtemporary signs mounted on breakaway posts that for a variety of reasons seem to have issues. Aside from looking cheap, there are some serious safety concerns with the signs. MNDOT usually has solid signage and these signs aren't by any means a new standard or anything, but I figure this is a good place to rant about them.
https://goo.gl/maps/uYuVGWEfRyT9PVdz6 -From Owatonna. No advance signage for the next interchange- at all!
https://goo.gl/maps/SJY63ssdDmrc6Xba8 -From Mahtomedi. Again with the lack of advance signage (at a cloverleaf interchange in an urban area too!). Not to mention that the sign already looks damaged a year after installation.
https://goo.gl/maps/pKR43JzdhQDBUpFT6 -From St Paul. Four busy lanes of traffic in an urban area and ground-mounted BGS's don't mix. No way you'll spot this sign on one of the busiest sections of highway in the state.
https://goo.gl/maps/YWSvnxS4BuPGyq8w7 -Just up the road from the previous example. If only there were a large overhead assembly with nothing over the rightmost lane...

These signs have all been this way for two or three years now. The ones in rural areas I understand replacing given how expensive overhead assemblies are, but the ones in urban areas are just unsafe. Consistency is key, and if drivers are expecting BGS's to be overhead then you can't just throw in a ground-mounted one and hope that drivers in the left two lanes crane their necks to see it. Again it's a shame that these are MNDOT installs because usually they have such great signage. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 31, 2020, 10:38:43 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50290314036/in/dateposted-public/?fbclid=IwAR31pifxU8kh_cRykU-qwKGVPGOl5BYT7Nkz_eZHo10S0Jm7TRSR_lb6Hao

The assembly holding the US 50 Guide is not made for that particular sign.  Though in 2009 this was, it might of been corrected.  However, what were they thinking then?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 31, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: formulanone on July 11, 2020, 11:51:23 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on July 04, 2020, 05:06:59 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 03, 2020, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 03, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I hope nobody else has seen this sign, because I'm going to post it:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899#com5064473

US 192 stays in FL and is only 75 miles long.  It should be demoted to a state highway.
If they did, it will not be demoted to FL 192 (which belongs in the northwestern part of the state), but FL 530 (west of Kissimmee) and FL 500 (east of US 441).

[ attribution, source ] (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/28268269287/in/photolist-K4YgBe-25YkeKA)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/840/28268269287_5dce6cc9ef_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K4YgBe)
Again, the sign I intended to show was this one:
https://imgflip.com/i/46xv9u?nerp=1593791899

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 31, 2020, 02:22:21 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on August 28, 2020, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 06:44:59 PM

Quote from: CardInLex on August 28, 2020, 06:37:46 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."

This is close to an I1-1 in the MUTCD.

What is that?

Page 293. https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009r1r2/part2gand2h.pdf

Ain't nobody got time fo dat scrolling!

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig2h_01.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on August 31, 2020, 06:09:22 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200831/90e8b6a1cc6e3d12bc440aba86e38d0a.jpg)


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 31, 2020, 10:12:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 12:59:26 PM
In Long Island, NY, near Ronkonkoma. "Signals set for 30 mph (https://www.google.pl/maps/@40.7691042,-73.1154859,3a,15y,78.66h,97.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDMavcOC6yOQy7VVLPC65uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/)."
I never thought I'd see a sign like that on Long Island. Also that's Church Street and Locust Avenue in Bohemia.

I've already added some sites in Bohemia to grab pictures of, and now I think I may need them even more. (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cerny%27s_Bakery&action=edit&redlink=1)



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 01, 2020, 11:33:18 AM
Do these exit only signs on a newer NY Thruway BGS look a bit Canadian (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.8565676,-78.7916525,3a,80.9y,350.51h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slRgjZ-AGH_mnGIaGDkQnOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) to anyone? The older sign (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.8565342,-78.7916862,3a,75y,350.51h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8cXF6qvJUi3Yfuovkh8cXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) had a more standard "exit only" tab, but even that was a little big.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 01, 2020, 11:50:02 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 01, 2020, 11:33:18 AM
Do these exit only signs on a newer NY Thruway BGS look a bit Canadian (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.8565676,-78.7916525,3a,80.9y,350.51h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slRgjZ-AGH_mnGIaGDkQnOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) to anyone? The older sign (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.8565342,-78.7916862,3a,75y,350.51h,94.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8cXF6qvJUi3Yfuovkh8cXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) had a more standard "exit only" tab, but even that was a little big.

The border around the "exit only" portions is interesting, but otherwise the overall style doesn't strike me as anything peculiar. We have a similar design (without the border) not far from where I live: https://goo.gl/maps/C2grMjUNVi43jt8J9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 02, 2020, 09:27:57 PM
Yeah, that's a milepost equation. 5.05 = 7.28, so the intervening 2.23 miles is skipped. Usually they're posted in a more cryptic fashion since they're meant more for DOT reference than for motorists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 02, 2020, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 02, 2020, 09:27:57 PM
Yeah, that's a milepost equation. 5.05 = 7.28, so the intervening 2.23 miles is skipped. Usually they're posted in a more cryptic fashion since they're meant more for DOT reference than for motorists.

And it probably has been made more subtle, as the sign has since been removed (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.2622735,-122.5436439,3a,41.2y,161.28h,98.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXQCr2dN4PddLvzNNSRvYzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on September 02, 2020, 09:39:51 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 29, 2020, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on August 29, 2020, 05:12:12 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on August 28, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
Anyone ever seen an interstate mileage sign this small (https://www.google.pl/maps/@41.7308151,-85.8725248,3a,23.2y,104.77h,91.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVMHTdil-Di4f75zdQHjEwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/)?

Not quite that small, but NYSDOT put up some (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0156739,-77.6602602,3a,75y,34.43h,82.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shAm3rczfzylTJyk4ecQIPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) decidedly (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0422685,-77.6506423,3a,75y,217.72h,87.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7yqL2s-YU-z-Ee1eSKqnlA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) undersized (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0671809,-77.6371952,3a,37.5y,242.53h,87.43t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNE45oSsf6frsOKjQ4eJezw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNE45oSsf6frsOKjQ4eJezw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D21.732044%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) ones on I-390 near the Thruway.
There's also the "DeWitt 3" sign on I-481 NB just after leaving I-81 south of Syracuse.

The PA Turnpike also has some tiny ones (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6662098,-80.0975052,3a,33.5y,183.84h,87.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCE6r4zCg_9PsBeowHTbT_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 03, 2020, 09:37:31 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.

I see a light-up lane use sign at the top of the structure.  Doesn't that indicate that head-to-head traffic is at least a possibility?  I assume it's for when one tunnel has to close.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 03, 2020, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.

Kinda off-topic; I know it's a rainforest-like environment, but I find it funny how most signs on H3 are slightly (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3785693,-157.8012216,3a,31.3y,115.25h,93.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suHeT1ULREa7mKtB6i6toYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) covered (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3850816,-157.7853127,3a,28.8y,269.98h,97.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOKEutcJ1anFrWF06z2nR8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3851797,-157.7828971,3a,22.4y,87.34h,90.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1LgbCuNSnfo7qP18UaFQJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) growth (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.4033692,-157.8325427,3a,59.3y,282.36h,99.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smcqsdgUvGulgUtQMVgJWiA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) or (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3975828,-157.8805561,3a,56.3y,279.06h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sienz9kkyuVEdPq2_4ihN3A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) greenery (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.394727,-157.8885908,3a,15y,254.39h,88.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sua9hBU_JxCn7Ncs4xn68KA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 03, 2020, 10:32:15 AM
Here's one of the only remaining button copy signs (https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.6623992,-90.1953429,3a,79y,336.15h,99.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCNQjoy3d0fS1xl5pPgYqnA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in STL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on September 03, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.

This is probably due to the fact that originally WA-16 used surface streets and went into downtown Tacoma, then turned south and ended where Pacific Ave crossed I-5.

Later, after 1973 when the Nalley Valley Viaduct was opened to traffic, WA-16 still used 6th Ave approaching the bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 03, 2020, 09:37:31 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.

I see a light-up lane use sign at the top of the structure.  Doesn't that indicate that head-to-head traffic is at least a possibility?  I assume it's for when one tunnel has to close.

Yes, very good point. There are other lane use matrix displays along the freeway, such as here (https://goo.gl/maps/pAwYNBVpAYRGwc7G8).

I guess I'm not used to seeing that warning sign used unless it's a constant thing. I think, if the H3 were built today, that sign would either be foldable or digital.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 03, 2020, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.

Kinda off-topic; I know it's a rainforest-like environment, but I find it funny how most signs on H3 are slightly (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3785693,-157.8012216,3a,31.3y,115.25h,93.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suHeT1ULREa7mKtB6i6toYw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) covered (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3850816,-157.7853127,3a,28.8y,269.98h,97.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOKEutcJ1anFrWF06z2nR8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) in (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3851797,-157.7828971,3a,22.4y,87.34h,90.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1LgbCuNSnfo7qP18UaFQJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) growth (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.4033692,-157.8325427,3a,59.3y,282.36h,99.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smcqsdgUvGulgUtQMVgJWiA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) or (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.3975828,-157.8805561,3a,56.3y,279.06h,73.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sienz9kkyuVEdPq2_4ihN3A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) greenery (https://www.google.ca/maps/@21.394727,-157.8885908,3a,15y,254.39h,88.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sua9hBU_JxCn7Ncs4xn68KA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).

Indeed, they are all decidedly a bit disgusting :-D. It does add a lot of character, in my opinion.

When you combine all this with the tunnel portals themselves (very brutalist design), the whole H3 experience is very cinematic:

(https://i.imgur.com/3EGE3yp.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 03, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.

This is probably due to the fact that originally WA-16 used surface streets and went into downtown Tacoma, then turned south and ended where Pacific Ave crossed I-5.

Later, after 1973 when the Nalley Valley Viaduct was opened to traffic, WA-16 still used 6th Ave approaching the bridge.

Ahh, yes. That was it. Thank you.

I guess what confuses me more, is why the mileposts were not adjusted when the freeway was built in the late 80s. As far as I know, exit numbers were not posted until the 2000s, so it wouldn't have required anything more than replacing the mileposts and some legal amendments. Itself a task, yes, but nothing compared to replacing dozens of big green signs with exit numbers already plastered over them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ozarkman417 on September 03, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?
Just in case the other tunnel is closed? Both ends of the tunnel have two-way traffic signs facing the other direction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on September 03, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?
Just in case the other tunnel is closed? Both ends of the tunnel have two-way traffic signs facing the other direction.

This was already confirmed upthread by the existence of lane-use matrix displays adjacent to the sign.

Still, it's not common to use that sign in that situation, to the best of my knowledge. At least not one that is permanently displayed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 03, 2020, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 03, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.

This is probably due to the fact that originally WA-16 used surface streets and went into downtown Tacoma, then turned south and ended where Pacific Ave crossed I-5.

Later, after 1973 when the Nalley Valley Viaduct was opened to traffic, WA-16 still used 6th Ave approaching the bridge.

Ahh, yes. That was it. Thank you.

I guess what confuses me more, is why the mileposts were not adjusted when the freeway was built in the late 80s. As far as I know, exit numbers were not posted until the 2000s, so it wouldn't have required anything more than replacing the mileposts and some legal amendments. Itself a task, yes, but nothing compared to replacing dozens of big green signs with exit numbers already plastered over them.
Why would it require some legal amendments?  Surely Washington doesn't legislate milemarker locations.  And I thought California's legislated route numbers was bad!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 03, 2020, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 03, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.

This is probably due to the fact that originally WA-16 used surface streets and went into downtown Tacoma, then turned south and ended where Pacific Ave crossed I-5.

Later, after 1973 when the Nalley Valley Viaduct was opened to traffic, WA-16 still used 6th Ave approaching the bridge.

Ahh, yes. That was it. Thank you.

I guess what confuses me more, is why the mileposts were not adjusted when the freeway was built in the late 80s. As far as I know, exit numbers were not posted until the 2000s, so it wouldn't have required anything more than replacing the mileposts and some legal amendments. Itself a task, yes, but nothing compared to replacing dozens of big green signs with exit numbers already plastered over them.
Why would it require some legal amendments?  Surely Washington doesn't legislate milemarker locations.  And I thought California's legislated route numbers was bad!

Actually, it wouldn't. Our routes are legislated the same as California's (each state route is codified in the RCW -- all routes are legally state routes) but mileage locations are not codified. My bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 04, 2020, 01:00:43 PM
This has probably already been posted (after all, it's central Boston), but this (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.3478423,-71.0717692,3a,72.8y,82.12h,84.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssHGhx7f5_KCupSmhaXF83A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) sign is interesting for a number of reasons. Any other yellow curve signs with exit numbers?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 04, 2020, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 03, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.

This is probably due to the fact that originally WA-16 used surface streets and went into downtown Tacoma, then turned south and ended where Pacific Ave crossed I-5.

Later, after 1973 when the Nalley Valley Viaduct was opened to traffic, WA-16 still used 6th Ave approaching the bridge.

Ahh, yes. That was it. Thank you.

I guess what confuses me more, is why the mileposts were not adjusted when the freeway was built in the late 80s. As far as I know, exit numbers were not posted until the 2000s, so it wouldn't have required anything more than replacing the mileposts and some legal amendments. Itself a task, yes, but nothing compared to replacing dozens of big green signs with exit numbers already plastered over them.

Probably has more to do with ease of record keeping than anything else. Not only would you need to replace the field mileposts, but now every DOT document ever created that refers to a specific milepost location along the replaced section is now incorrect--as-built plans, milepost index/route inventory, crash records, etc.

In California, most routes originally had postmiles measured circa 1964, and Caltrans denotes any subsequent realignments with "R" postmiles (or "S" postmiles at a second realignment). I'd hazard the guess that they do this also for record-keeping purposes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on September 04, 2020, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 04, 2020, 01:00:43 PM
This has probably already been posted (after all, it's central Boston), but this (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.3478423,-71.0717692,3a,72.8y,82.12h,84.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssHGhx7f5_KCupSmhaXF83A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) sign is interesting for a number of reasons. Any other yellow curve signs with exit numbers?

What's also interesting is that the arrows have different thicknesses.  Is there a significance to the choice of arrow thickness?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 04, 2020, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 04, 2020, 02:05:12 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on September 04, 2020, 01:00:43 PM
This has probably already been posted (after all, it's central Boston), but this (https://www.google.pl/maps/@42.3478423,-71.0717692,3a,72.8y,82.12h,84.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssHGhx7f5_KCupSmhaXF83A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) sign is interesting for a number of reasons. Any other yellow curve signs with exit numbers?

What's also interesting is that the arrows have different thicknesses.  Is there a significance to the choice of arrow thickness?

Thick arrows are for the Interstate, thin arrow is for Exit #24A (access to South Station).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Katavia on September 04, 2020, 04:49:18 PM
They aren't curve warning signs and they don't have exit numbers, but these three ugly signs are all located along the same road - in fact I pass by the first two signs on the regular. I'm not sure if these things originated from NCDOT or if they are just a Kannapolis town-installed thing.

(https://i.ibb.co/N78QBDQ/Screenshot-2020-09-03-at-9-57-27-AM.png)
GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/zzwDU4r8kRiRh2Nu7 (https://goo.gl/maps/zzwDU4r8kRiRh2Nu7)
A unisign and a unusual font on the I-85 shield specifically.

(https://i.ibb.co/HB5DyGF/Screenshot-2020-09-03-at-9-50-17-AM.png)
GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/tvYGwATcEGHr28xH9 (https://goo.gl/maps/tvYGwATcEGHr28xH9)
The same unusual font for the I-85 shield, but all three arrows are a bit off to boot, as if they were cropped to just show the arrow with as little whitespace as possible.

(https://i.ibb.co/W2rw1R0/Screenshot-2020-09-04-at-4-24-22-PM.png)
GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/gr3eeoK4PjBS8gHk7 (https://goo.gl/maps/gr3eeoK4PjBS8gHk7)
Just after old (hidden?) US 29A/Main Street... Ew. Odd font on the I-85 shield (sound familiar?), derpy up arrow... oh, and "KANNAPOLIS PARKWAY" too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 04, 2020, 05:01:57 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5518/14029776528_7256fabb5a_z_d.jpg)

Pineville, MO Chamber of Commerce / Info Center
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 04, 2020, 09:35:58 PM
A rather weird sign in Suffolk, VA on US 13/58/460 at Wilroy Rd. Looks like it could've been better used as a logo for a company or something.

NOTE: There has been no secondary routes in Suffolk since 2006, making SR 642 erroneous

Images from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200905/693ebbf655a76f94df3de4ae318e33c4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200905/2df9b0bec1a538efe2a5037b8d254e42.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 04, 2020, 10:15:17 PM
Quote from: plain on September 04, 2020, 09:35:58 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200905/2df9b0bec1a538efe2a5037b8d254e42.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

All things considered, this could've turned out a lot worse.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 05, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
Blech! I have an irrational hate for these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0256711,-71.2422754,3a,73.5y,338.45h,81.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr0JQfuwQyc5f2ZOJpoFbSg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 05, 2020, 02:07:43 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 04, 2020, 10:15:17 PM
Quote from: plain on September 04, 2020, 09:35:58 PM(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200905/2df9b0bec1a538efe2a5037b8d254e42.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

All things considered, this could've turned out a lot worse.

Should've used a combination horizontal alignment/advisory exit sign and without the through arrow, such as this:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/MUTCD_W13-6.svg/200px-MUTCD_W13-6.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 05, 2020, 04:27:17 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0934722,-118.242936,3a,18.6y,348.73h,99.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPO0bInLqmloXWYareI4ZSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Bullet holes are just the icing on the cake for this faded, peeling sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 05, 2020, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 05, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
Blech! I have an irrational hate for these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0256711,-71.2422754,3a,73.5y,338.45h,81.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr0JQfuwQyc5f2ZOJpoFbSg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) shields.

In all honesty those aren't that bad. The fonts are at least FHWA. They used the right shields. They're not bubble shields. Like with the other sign above, you can do so, so, so much worse.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on September 05, 2020, 11:21:57 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 05, 2020, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 05, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
Blech! I have an irrational hate for these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0256711,-71.2422754,3a,73.5y,338.45h,81.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr0JQfuwQyc5f2ZOJpoFbSg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) shields.

In all honesty those aren't that bad. The fonts are at least FHWA. They used the right shields. They're not bubble shields. Like with the other sign above, you can do so, so, so much worse.

Yeah. The big problem here is those strange arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 05, 2020, 11:55:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 03, 2020, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 03, 2020, 12:34:46 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 02, 2020, 09:16:50 PM
I have no idea what this sign on WA-16 was trying to read:

"MILE POST 7.28 AHEAD EQUALS 5.05 BACK (https://goo.gl/maps/eE1kgPXUArw2HELLA)"

An important note is that WA-16 is weird because of the mileage taking a leap on either side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I suppose this sign is meant to indicate that the mile posts have suddenly decreased substantially after crossing from Gig Harbor into Tacoma. Exit 8, just on the other side of the bridge, is only about a 1.5 miles from Exit 4, the immediate exit on the Tacoma side, but these both align with mileposts along the highway. I think WA-16 ended up being shorter in Tacoma than expected, hence the missing mileage.

This is probably due to the fact that originally WA-16 used surface streets and went into downtown Tacoma, then turned south and ended where Pacific Ave crossed I-5.

Later, after 1973 when the Nalley Valley Viaduct was opened to traffic, WA-16 still used 6th Ave approaching the bridge.

Ahh, yes. That was it. Thank you.

I guess what confuses me more, is why the mileposts were not adjusted when the freeway was built in the late 80s. As far as I know, exit numbers were not posted until the 2000s, so it wouldn't have required anything more than replacing the mileposts and some legal amendments. Itself a task, yes, but nothing compared to replacing dozens of big green signs with exit numbers already plastered over them.
Why would it require some legal amendments?  Surely Washington doesn't legislate milemarker locations.  And I thought California's legislated route numbers was bad!

Actually, it wouldn't. Our routes are legislated the same as California's (each state route is codified in the RCW -- all routes are legally state routes) but mileage locations are not codified. My bad.

Damn, I wish I hadn't taken a three day break from the board.

You'll notice equations a lot if you explore WSDOT SR Web.  They're fascinating for figuring out alignment histories of highways.  The intro pages to the State Highway Logs (https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/mapsdata/roadway/statehighwaylog.htm) explain how they work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 06, 2020, 10:30:15 PM
DUI Safety Corridor on CA 44, I've never seen anything like this before in California:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50313574118_6e308b2dec_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jE3dFQ)IMG_5273 (https://flic.kr/p/2jE3dFQ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

A stand alone CA 16 shield overlay affixed to a BGS on I-5.  Its easy to see why the BGS spade variant omits "California" because it is unreadable at speed:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50314544652_eab03bd5e8_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jE8ccb)16CAa (https://flic.kr/p/2jE8ccb) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on September 07, 2020, 05:15:32 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 06, 2020, 10:30:15 PM
DUI Safety Corridor on CA 44, I've never seen anything like this before in California:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50313574118_6e308b2dec_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jE3dFQ)IMG_5273 (https://flic.kr/p/2jE3dFQ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
DUI Safety Corridor? How many drinking-related accidents has the road seen in the past year?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rte66man on September 07, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
Was in Tulsa, OK this weekend and saw a series of the UGLIEST signs anywhere. All are related to the Creek Turnpike (OK364) eastbound from Sapulpa to Broken Arrow.

EB I-44 at west end of OK364
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315300918_3df9da57c2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEc51f)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315300838_3fcde88982_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEc4YS)

EB 364 approaching the junction with NB 169
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316151347_59714151bc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEgqNP)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315300863_3eaacc5ab0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEc4Zi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315969606_5b76654f61_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEfuMm)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 07, 2020, 11:13:46 AM
Quote from: rte66man on September 07, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
Was in Tulsa, OK this weekend and saw a series of the UGLIEST signs anywhere. All are related to the Creek Turnpike (OK364) eastbound from Sapulpa to Broken Arrow.

Probably just stuck shields on existing signs when the Pikes became state highways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 07, 2020, 11:18:58 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on September 07, 2020, 05:15:32 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 06, 2020, 10:30:15 PM
DUI Safety Corridor on CA 44, I've never seen anything like this before in California:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50313574118_6e308b2dec_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jE3dFQ)IMG_5273 (https://flic.kr/p/2jE3dFQ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
DUI Safety Corridor? How many drinking-related accidents has the road seen in the past year?

I can't imagine very many considering how desolate 44 gets East of Millville.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 07, 2020, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: rte66man on September 07, 2020, 10:06:07 AM
Was in Tulsa, OK this weekend and saw a series of the UGLIEST signs anywhere. All are related to the Creek Turnpike (OK364) eastbound from Sapulpa to Broken Arrow.

EB I-44 at west end of OK364
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315300918_3df9da57c2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEc51f)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315300838_3fcde88982_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEc4YS)

EB 364 approaching the junction with NB 169
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316151347_59714151bc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEgqNP)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315300863_3eaacc5ab0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEc4Zi)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50315969606_5b76654f61_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEfuMm)

I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one of these over on the Redesign This thread before. They are pretty horrendous, more appropriate for the Worst of Road Signs thread!

Edit: I was right! Here's my redesign of the first one that I made a while back.

(https://i.imgur.com/MTp9Mh1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/GftMaQc.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rte66man on September 07, 2020, 11:35:42 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^

Got frustrated because I couldn't find that thread so I  posted them here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 07, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
The two extant equation signs in Washington State that I know about:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316602838_b4cc564100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEiK29)

509 east of the Port of Tacoma.  The state built a new alignment south of the old one right through the port, then swung around to where the old alignment made a T intersection with a road.  This intersection and points north will themselves be bypassed soon when the state builds a new alignment taking 509 directly to I-5.  Google Street View. (https://goo.gl/maps/41netApfXqXbhoCHA)

525, Lynnwood. (https://goo.gl/maps/eMAXiJvyhd4mqEV68)  It is on the northbound side only and is not mentioned on the otherwise through SR Web coverage.  At this place was an elaborate ramp system on both sides of the freeway for pedestrians to access bus shelters from the Swamp Creek Park & Ride.  As important as that was, they were summarily removed and the hills were restored to grass.  That removal may or may not be the reason for the equation, somehow accounting for a 10th of a mile.  I found out about it because it was featured on a piece by Feliks Banel on KIRO Radio.  When it was posted it unleashed a rash of anti-goverment comments, and I can no longer find this posting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 07, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
Jackson,. Mississippi at Chick-Fil-A

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4253/35637961366_6acec02a1b_z_d.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4116/35547229821_5786c0fbae_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 07, 2020, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 07, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
Jackson,. Mississippi at Chick-Fil-A

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4253/35637961366_6acec02a1b_z_d.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4116/35547229821_5786c0fbae_z_d.jpg)
Absolutely ungodly (no pun intended).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Katavia on September 07, 2020, 06:35:02 PM
Oh lordy. Yeah, those CFA signs are nasty. At least they try to make it look somewhat proper (sign shape and colors)... but not always. One location close to my apartment has a "one way" sign, white-on-red and in all-lowercase to boot. They also have a Do Not Enter sign similar to the first image.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 01:45:00 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 07, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
The two extant equation signs in Washington State that I know about:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316602838_b4cc564100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEiK29)

509 east of the Port of Tacoma.  The state built a new alignment south of the old one right through the port, then swung around to where the old alignment made a T intersection with a road.  This intersection and points north will themselves be bypassed soon when the state builds a new alignment taking 509 directly to I-5.  Google Street View. (https://goo.gl/maps/41netApfXqXbhoCHA)

525, Lynnwood. (https://goo.gl/maps/eMAXiJvyhd4mqEV68)  It is on the northbound side only and is not mentioned on the otherwise through SR Web coverage.  At this place was an elaborate ramp system on both sides of the freeway for pedestrians to access bus shelters from the Swamp Creek Park & Ride.  As important as that was, they were summarily removed and the hills were restored to grass.  That removal may or may not be the reason for the equation, somehow accounting for a 10th of a mile.  I found out about it because it was featured on a piece by Feliks Banel on KIRO Radio.  When it was posted it unleashed a rash of anti-goverment comments, and I can no longer find this posting.

Thanks for the update!! Cool that there are more. I've never noticed them before. No surprise they are meant to be small and relatively secretive.

As for those pedestrian ramps, that's very interesting, although might it be due to the straightening of WA-525 at its junction with Hwy 99? That seems like it could have cut off about 1/10 of a mile, although it would have been for both directions. Granted, if Feliks Banel clearly stated that it was due to the pedestrian ramps, fair enough. Although I'd love to see some photos. Best I can do is some older aerial photos that aren't exactly clear.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 08, 2020, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 07, 2020, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: US71 on September 07, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
Jackson,. Mississippi at Chick-Fil-A

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4253/35637961366_6acec02a1b_z_d.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4116/35547229821_5786c0fbae_z_d.jpg)
Absolutely ungodly (no pun intended).

I really wish private businesses didn't see traffic signs as a blank slate to do whatever they wanted, as long as it fit their "brand". The all-lowercase lettering is hideous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on September 08, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
Wisconsin will sometimes put serifs on their capital I's to help distinguish them from lowercase L's, a practice I appreciate.  Do any other places do this?

https://goo.gl/maps/sZWzyduf153Su7BQ7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 08, 2020, 02:07:57 PM
Interesting curve signage and lights in Salem, MA. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4923533,-70.8929139,3a,39.5y,59.67h,93.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQh4rnh1zL2lW0oipDUxjLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 08, 2020, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 08, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
Wisconsin will sometimes put serifs on their capital I's to help distinguish them from lowercase L's, a practice I appreciate.  Do any other places do this?

https://goo.gl/maps/sZWzyduf153Su7BQ7

Your link took me to Cairo, IL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 08, 2020, 04:13:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 01:45:00 AM

As for those pedestrian ramps, that's very interesting, although might it be due to the straightening of WA-525 at its junction with Hwy 99? That seems like it could have cut off about 1/10 of a mile, although it would have been for both directions. Granted, if Feliks Banel clearly stated that it was due to the pedestrian ramps, fair enough. Although I'd love to see some photos. Best I can do is some older aerial photos that aren't exactly clear.

The equation implies that the shortage happened right there.  The SR 99 junction is further north, and has its own equation implying added distance (003.41B=003.24, but it's unsigned.)  Feliks didn't know why the sign was there, but it would have to be a distance-shortening activity right at whatever project caused it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 09, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
Vermont just doing Vermont (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.651819,-72.3195868,3a,46.9y,34.46h,89.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd8IsGkTUpt_6HfaxINAhKQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) things.

The signal placement is redundant enough but a bit random, and are overhead BGSes strictly necessary?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 09, 2020, 01:16:23 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 09, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
Vermont just doing Vermont (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.651819,-72.3195868,3a,46.9y,34.46h,89.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd8IsGkTUpt_6HfaxINAhKQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) things.

The signal placement is redundant enough but a bit random, and are overhead BGSes strictly necessary?

I don't mind overhead BGSs here but...

(1)  I don't like the two different font/shield size combinations.

(2)  I definitely don't like that one US-5 shield has an up arrow and the other US-5 shield has a down arrow.  At a quick glance, that's confusing.  It should be one APL sign over both lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 09, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 01:45:00 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 07, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
The two extant equation signs in Washington State that I know about:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316602838_b4cc564100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEiK29)

509 east of the Port of Tacoma.  The state built a new alignment south of the old one right through the port, then swung around to where the old alignment made a T intersection with a road.  This intersection and points north will themselves be bypassed soon when the state builds a new alignment taking 509 directly to I-5.  Google Street View. (https://goo.gl/maps/41netApfXqXbhoCHA)

525, Lynnwood. (https://goo.gl/maps/eMAXiJvyhd4mqEV68)  It is on the northbound side only and is not mentioned on the otherwise through SR Web coverage.  At this place was an elaborate ramp system on both sides of the freeway for pedestrians to access bus shelters from the Swamp Creek Park & Ride.  As important as that was, they were summarily removed and the hills were restored to grass.  That removal may or may not be the reason for the equation, somehow accounting for a 10th of a mile.  I found out about it because it was featured on a piece by Feliks Banel on KIRO Radio.  When it was posted it unleashed a rash of anti-goverment comments, and I can no longer find this posting.

Thanks for the update!! Cool that there are more. I've never noticed them before. No surprise they are meant to be small and relatively secretive.

As for those pedestrian ramps, that's very interesting, although might it be due to the straightening of WA-525 at its junction with Hwy 99? That seems like it could have cut off about 1/10 of a mile, although it would have been for both directions. Granted, if Feliks Banel clearly stated that it was due to the pedestrian ramps, fair enough. Although I'd love to see some photos. Best I can do is some older aerial photos that aren't exactly clear.

BTW this seems to be the article on KIRO Radio: https://mynorthwest.com/634325/weird-sign-explained/

I didn't know about the whole ramp situation, so I'll have to look into that. Swamp Creek does seem like a decent place for a freeway station (for the one commuter route that actually uses that part of SR 525).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 09, 2020, 07:46:23 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 09, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 01:45:00 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 07, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
The two extant equation signs in Washington State that I know about:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316602838_b4cc564100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEiK29)

509 east of the Port of Tacoma.  The state built a new alignment south of the old one right through the port, then swung around to where the old alignment made a T intersection with a road.  This intersection and points north will themselves be bypassed soon when the state builds a new alignment taking 509 directly to I-5.  Google Street View. (https://goo.gl/maps/41netApfXqXbhoCHA)

525, Lynnwood. (https://goo.gl/maps/eMAXiJvyhd4mqEV68)  It is on the northbound side only and is not mentioned on the otherwise through SR Web coverage.  At this place was an elaborate ramp system on both sides of the freeway for pedestrians to access bus shelters from the Swamp Creek Park & Ride.  As important as that was, they were summarily removed and the hills were restored to grass.  That removal may or may not be the reason for the equation, somehow accounting for a 10th of a mile.  I found out about it because it was featured on a piece by Feliks Banel on KIRO Radio.  When it was posted it unleashed a rash of anti-goverment comments, and I can no longer find this posting.

Thanks for the update!! Cool that there are more. I've never noticed them before. No surprise they are meant to be small and relatively secretive.

As for those pedestrian ramps, that's very interesting, although might it be due to the straightening of WA-525 at its junction with Hwy 99? That seems like it could have cut off about 1/10 of a mile, although it would have been for both directions. Granted, if Feliks Banel clearly stated that it was due to the pedestrian ramps, fair enough. Although I'd love to see some photos. Best I can do is some older aerial photos that aren't exactly clear.

BTW this seems to be the article on KIRO Radio: https://mynorthwest.com/634325/weird-sign-explained/

I didn't know about the whole ramp situation, so I'll have to look into that. Swamp Creek does seem like a decent place for a freeway station (for the one commuter route that actually uses that part of SR 525).

Thanks for the link. Still seems a bit confusing though since those markers are supposed to be used where the mile shortening occurs (as was the case on the southeast end of the Narrows Bridge), and no obvious shortening occurred along this stretch of 525, even around the time it was rebuilt/dualled in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 09, 2020, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 08, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
Wisconsin will sometimes put serifs on their capital I's to help distinguish them from lowercase L's, a practice I appreciate.  Do any other places do this?

https://goo.gl/maps/sZWzyduf153Su7BQ7

NYSDOT does this along NY 5S for Ilion.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0227429,-75.0503136,3a,75y,117.65h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swDGrmlkWrRT63H4JDek5jg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on September 09, 2020, 08:30:04 PM
Quote from: machias on September 09, 2020, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 08, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
Wisconsin will sometimes put serifs on their capital I's to help distinguish them from lowercase L's, a practice I appreciate.  Do any other places do this?

https://goo.gl/maps/sZWzyduf153Su7BQ7

NYSDOT does this along NY 5S for Ilion.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0227429,-75.0503136,3a,75y,117.65h,85.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swDGrmlkWrRT63H4JDek5jg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Somewhat related, at the PA 56/356 interchange in Westmoreland County, PA, all the signage uses non-conforming g's which as always bugged me. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6174748,-79.6215002,3a,36.7y,281.61h,94.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHwqoMe9ZShVN5XlthxZvDQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 09, 2020, 09:17:03 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 09, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 08, 2020, 01:45:00 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 07, 2020, 04:32:28 PM
The two extant equation signs in Washington State that I know about:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50316602838_b4cc564100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jEiK29)

509 east of the Port of Tacoma.  The state built a new alignment south of the old one right through the port, then swung around to where the old alignment made a T intersection with a road.  This intersection and points north will themselves be bypassed soon when the state builds a new alignment taking 509 directly to I-5.  Google Street View. (https://goo.gl/maps/41netApfXqXbhoCHA)

525, Lynnwood. (https://goo.gl/maps/eMAXiJvyhd4mqEV68)  It is on the northbound side only and is not mentioned on the otherwise through SR Web coverage.  At this place was an elaborate ramp system on both sides of the freeway for pedestrians to access bus shelters from the Swamp Creek Park & Ride.  As important as that was, they were summarily removed and the hills were restored to grass.  That removal may or may not be the reason for the equation, somehow accounting for a 10th of a mile.  I found out about it because it was featured on a piece by Feliks Banel on KIRO Radio.  When it was posted it unleashed a rash of anti-goverment comments, and I can no longer find this posting.

Thanks for the update!! Cool that there are more. I've never noticed them before. No surprise they are meant to be small and relatively secretive.

As for those pedestrian ramps, that's very interesting, although might it be due to the straightening of WA-525 at its junction with Hwy 99? That seems like it could have cut off about 1/10 of a mile, although it would have been for both directions. Granted, if Feliks Banel clearly stated that it was due to the pedestrian ramps, fair enough. Although I'd love to see some photos. Best I can do is some older aerial photos that aren't exactly clear.

BTW this seems to be the article on KIRO Radio: https://mynorthwest.com/634325/weird-sign-explained/

I didn't know about the whole ramp situation, so I'll have to look into that. Swamp Creek does seem like a decent place for a freeway station (for the one commuter route that actually uses that part of SR 525).

Thanks.  I got the reporter wrong, but I still stand by the fact that the SR 99 section has its own (unsigned) equation.  Perhaps when they took out the bus pullout they wanted that translated into a mileage shortage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 09, 2020, 10:02:25 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50325515182_c182fa2a05_4k.jpg)https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50325515182_c182fa2a05_4k.jpg

This one is beyond odd along US 17 in South Newport, Georgia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 10, 2020, 04:53:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 09, 2020, 10:02:25 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50325515182_c182fa2a05_4k.jpg)https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50325515182_c182fa2a05_4k.jpg

This one is beyond odd along US 17 in South Newport, Georgia.

Replace odd with dumb.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 12:44:57 PM
RI (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6008633,-71.2500456,3a,23.9y,41.78h,92.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO3IGthIeOJhrTzQ_s_doqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) using a generic circle shield instead of its rectangle for SR 24.

And this isn't an isolated (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6264347,-71.2425055,3a,21.5y,38.24h,88.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAHN7Ri-9huPxXiiqxDG71Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) thing either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 11, 2020, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

These are becoming more and more common now. I actually posted one a year or so ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 12, 2020, 03:50:43 AM
You choose your path forward when you meet this roundabout in Lacey, WA (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0378733,-122.8286072,112m/data=!3m1!1e3).

Technically on a trail, but I thought it was cool.

(https://i.imgur.com/Klfxcbe.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 12, 2020, 08:06:34 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Agh! Everything is Clearview!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 12, 2020, 10:25:49 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Pay up.

(https://i.imgur.com/8u8pWPl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on September 12, 2020, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

I have one within 10 miles of me on the Concord/Carlisle MA border. Not the same verbiage, but giving the warning that GPS is not your friend here.

https://goo.gl/maps/7otvUzkcHKQHoLiz5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 12, 2020, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

I'll take mine as 1 $20, 1 $10, 3 $5's and 5 $1's.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bwana39 on September 12, 2020, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.

I have never been there, but I also noticed that the far right lane was isolated by a striped yellow line. THat would suggest that the traffic in said lane is traveling the opposite direction? Therefore two way traffic
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on September 12, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

I've seen homemade ones, but not a shop-made one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 12, 2020, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on September 12, 2020, 12:00:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 03, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Does anyone know why, at the entrance to the Harano Tunnels along the H3 Freeway on Oahu, the overhead gantry has two-way traffic warning signs facing away from the travel direction?

See here on maps: "TWO-WAY TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/aDY1cv36eEuhpiDf6)"

There are approximately three billion signs prior to this point indicating "WRONG WAY" or "GO BACK" or "DO NO ENTER", so I'm confused why after all of that, they'd grant you the satisfaction of a two-way traffic warning sign.

I have never been there, but I also noticed that the far right lane was isolated by a striped yellow line. THat would suggest that the traffic in said lane is traveling the opposite direction? Therefore two way traffic

I think that's meant to be the shoulder, as that "lane" becomes about four feet wide (https://goo.gl/maps/oQMspRaEmAxH85Tt9) when you enter the tunnel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 12, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Not the same language, but lots of "GPS Routing Not Recommended" signage in Kentucky and Virginia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on September 12, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Not the same language, but lots of "GPS Routing Not Recommended" signage in Kentucky and Virginia.

In Anchorage, KY, "YOUR GPS IS WRONG"  in both English and Spanish. https://goo.gl/maps/kzyQyk6dvQ3pyPCP7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
Puzzling English on this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.166232,-95.0105467,3a,15y,109.77h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE13LevOJnCkK3-Yo_QGAnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) one-off sign in NE Texas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on September 14, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
Puzzling English on this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.166232,-95.0105467,3a,15y,109.77h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE13LevOJnCkK3-Yo_QGAnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) one-off sign in NE Texas.

...i have so many questions...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 14, 2020, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on September 12, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Not the same language, but lots of "GPS Routing Not Recommended" signage in Kentucky and Virginia.

In Anchorage, KY, "YOUR GPS IS WRONG"  in both English and Spanish. https://goo.gl/maps/kzyQyk6dvQ3pyPCP7

Where is it? This comes up just facing the asphalt. I didn't see it stenciled on the ground?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: odditude on September 14, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
Puzzling English on this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.166232,-95.0105467,3a,15y,109.77h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE13LevOJnCkK3-Yo_QGAnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) one-off sign in NE Texas.

...i have so many questions...

I'll put the text here if anyone can decipher it.
PROHIBITED
View-text electronic
Writing-Game
While driving
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Buffaboy on September 14, 2020, 10:30:31 PM
I never realized how unique these "stadium in use" signs around the Buffalo Southtowns are, because I see them so often. I think there's only 2, but I might be wrong?

(https://i.imgur.com/UBQQauk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TtdCBUI.jpg)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8011132,-78.7430081,3a,75y,245.83h,75.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTWHVib9MnxLKpc9mscgojg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.745237,-78.8628048,3a,20.8y,89.73h,95.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8bGtunQRCU0pzBo6PGekhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Also, there are more examples of "when flashing" signs in the area, such as when the Skyway Bridge is close due to high winds or snow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on September 14, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: odditude on September 14, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
(snipped)

...i have so many questions...

I'll put the text here if anyone can decipher it.
PROHIBITED
View-text electronic
Writing-Game
While driving

I'm going to guess that the horizontal lines are supposed to be list item separators, so maybe it is banning looking at your phone, writing text messages, and playing games while driving? (Relevant city ordinance. (http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Texas/mtpleasant/titleviitrafficcode/chapter71trafficregulations?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:mtpleasant_tx$anc=JD_71.055))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on September 15, 2020, 01:14:18 AM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on September 14, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: odditude on September 14, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
(snipped)

...i have so many questions...

I'll put the text here if anyone can decipher it.
PROHIBITED
View-text electronic
Writing-Game
While driving

I'm going to guess that the horizontal lines are supposed to be list item separators, so maybe it is banning looking at your phone, writing text messages, and playing games while driving? (Relevant city ordinance. (http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Texas/mtpleasant/titleviitrafficcode/chapter71trafficregulations?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:mtpleasant_tx$anc=JD_71.055))

the intent is fairly obvious. my questions are more around "who wrote that? what were they on? who approved it? how confused was the guy at the sign shop when he saw the approved plans?" etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 14, 2020, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on September 12, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Not the same language, but lots of "GPS Routing Not Recommended" signage in Kentucky and Virginia.

In Anchorage, KY, "YOUR GPS IS WRONG"  in both English and Spanish. https://goo.gl/maps/kzyQyk6dvQ3pyPCP7

Where is it? This comes up just facing the asphalt. I didn't see it stenciled on the ground?

You have to pull the camera up and then turn it around. Link here (https://goo.gl/maps/NDa6TAHXWFJPfbhr7). Camera facing the ground is something a link originating from Google Maps on Android/iOS does. No idea why.

It also is written in Spanish, which I see mostly along the WA coast for tsunami warning signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jet380 on September 15, 2020, 03:15:34 AM
Quote from: odditude on September 15, 2020, 01:14:18 AM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on September 14, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: odditude on September 14, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
(snipped)

...i have so many questions...

I'll put the text here if anyone can decipher it.
PROHIBITED
View-text electronic
Writing-Game
While driving

I'm going to guess that the horizontal lines are supposed to be list item separators, so maybe it is banning looking at your phone, writing text messages, and playing games while driving? (Relevant city ordinance. (http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Texas/mtpleasant/titleviitrafficcode/chapter71trafficregulations?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:mtpleasant_tx$anc=JD_71.055))

the intent is fairly obvious. my questions are more around "who wrote that? what were they on? who approved it? how confused was the guy at the sign shop when he saw the approved plans?" etc.

My guess is the original designer wanted a fancy 'branched' list, something like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/fgffIH8.png)
But it got muddled up on the way to the signwriter. Perhaps the designer had to describe what they wanted over the phone while driving?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Verlanka on September 15, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
It also is written in Spanish, which I see mostly along the WA coast for tsunami warning signs.
Spanish? I assume you mean French (since WA is right next to Canada).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on September 15, 2020, 07:37:09 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on September 15, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
It also is written in Spanish, which I see mostly along the WA coast for tsunami warning signs.
Spanish? I assume you mean French (since WA is right next to Canada).

British Columbia isn't French.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 15, 2020, 07:41:12 AM
Quote from: Jet380 on September 15, 2020, 03:15:34 AM
Quote from: odditude on September 15, 2020, 01:14:18 AM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on September 14, 2020, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: odditude on September 14, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
(snipped)

...i have so many questions...

I'll put the text here if anyone can decipher it.
PROHIBITED
View-text electronic
Writing-Game
While driving

I'm going to guess that the horizontal lines are supposed to be list item separators, so maybe it is banning looking at your phone, writing text messages, and playing games while driving? (Relevant city ordinance. (http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Texas/mtpleasant/titleviitrafficcode/chapter71trafficregulations?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:mtpleasant_tx$anc=JD_71.055))

the intent is fairly obvious. my questions are more around "who wrote that? what were they on? who approved it? how confused was the guy at the sign shop when he saw the approved plans?" etc.

My guess is the original designer wanted a fancy 'branched' list, something like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/fgffIH8.png)
But it got muddled up on the way to the signwriter. Perhaps the designer had to describe what they wanted over the phone while driving?

Probably an area where hand held cell use for making calls is permitted, but they don't want you reading a screen while driving.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 15, 2020, 07:57:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 14, 2020, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on September 12, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 11, 2020, 07:10:51 PM
50 bucks says you've never seen a sign like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8800579,-72.7090471,3a,34.4y,92.34h,92.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svV1n9yjz6bQDzsBmej1H8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) one. "Ignore GPS."

Not the same language, but lots of "GPS Routing Not Recommended" signage in Kentucky and Virginia.

In Anchorage, KY, "YOUR GPS IS WRONG"  in both English and Spanish. https://goo.gl/maps/kzyQyk6dvQ3pyPCP7

Where is it? This comes up just facing the asphalt. I didn't see it stenciled on the ground?

You have to pull the camera up and then turn it around. Link here (https://goo.gl/maps/NDa6TAHXWFJPfbhr7). Camera facing the ground is something a link originating from Google Maps on Android/iOS does. No idea why.

It also is written in Spanish, which I see mostly along the WA coast for tsunami warning signs.

Whereas when I opened that link on my iPad, I found it was pointed at the sky. Weird stuff.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 15, 2020, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
Puzzling English on this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.166232,-95.0105467,3a,15y,109.77h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE13LevOJnCkK3-Yo_QGAnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) one-off sign in NE Texas.

The city ordinance states as so:

Quote from: Mount Pleasant (TX) Code of Ordinances, Title VII: Traffic Code, Chapter 71: Traffic Regulations
§ 71.055  PROHIBITING USE OF PORTABLE ELECTRONIC WHILE OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE.

(A)   The provisions of this section shall apply to all persons operating a motor vehicle on public roadways within the incorporated limits of the city.

(B)   In this section, portable electronic device means a hand-held mobile telephone, personal digital assistant, MP3 or other hand-held music player, electronic reading device, laptop computer, tablet computer, pager, broadband personal communication device, global positioning or navigation system, electronic game device, or portable computer device.

(C)   A driver of a motor vehicle may not use a portable electronic device to view, send, or compose an electronic message or engage other application software while operating a motor vehicle on a public roadway with the city.

[...]

link
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on September 15, 2020, 12:29:21 PM
Arguable worst of:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50345109578_d27715364e_c.jpg) (Haverhill, MA)

Leading zero (sign in the background identical except with no leading zero):
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50345109778_914dfe2eb7_c.jpg) (Lawrence, MA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 15, 2020, 12:49:09 PM
Quote from: Verlanka on September 15, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
It also is written in Spanish, which I see mostly along the WA coast for tsunami warning signs.
Spanish? I assume you mean French (since WA is right next to Canada).
No idea about the tsunami warning signs, but the linked sign is definitely Spanish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:29:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 15, 2020, 07:37:09 AM
Quote from: Verlanka on September 15, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
It also is written in Spanish, which I see mostly along the WA coast for tsunami warning signs.
Spanish? I assume you mean French (since WA is right next to Canada).

British Columbia isn't French.

The signs I'm referring to in WA are definitely Spanish: "RUTA DE EVACUACION (https://goo.gl/maps/U3n5prVGp3qBXSS98)". There are a lot of Spanish-speakers in WA and along the west coast in general, so it was important they understood the signs.

BC has French radio stations and French schools, but the languages of importance are easily English, Cantonese, and Mandarin. French fluency is higher than Spanish, but still quite low.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 02:34:30 PM
Question for anyone.

This sign in DC (https://goo.gl/maps/DxaTpRqJ7w6MQmi47) (image below) implies that the center lane can turn right or go straight between 4 and 6:30pm. Great. What about other times of day?

There are no markings or arrows approaching the intersection besides this sign to indicate legal maneuvers outside of these hours. Can all three lanes proceed straight outside these hours, since no lane forces anyone to turn?

I posted this here because it's a relatively unique sign.

(https://i.imgur.com/717IMrW.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on September 15, 2020, 02:56:39 PM
I would interpret it as "outside these hours, pretend this sign doesn't exist". I'm not sure what's up ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 15, 2020, 03:02:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 15, 2020, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 14, 2020, 06:50:25 PM
Puzzling English on this (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.166232,-95.0105467,3a,15y,109.77h,89.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE13LevOJnCkK3-Yo_QGAnA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) one-off sign in NE Texas.

The city ordinance states as so:

Quote from: Mount Pleasant (TX) Code of Ordinances, Title VII: Traffic Code, Chapter 71: Traffic Regulations
§ 71.055  PROHIBITING USE OF PORTABLE ELECTRONIC WHILE OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE.

(A)   The provisions of this section shall apply to all persons operating a motor vehicle on public roadways within the incorporated limits of the city.

(B)   In this section, portable electronic device means a hand-held mobile telephone, personal digital assistant, MP3 or other hand-held music player, electronic reading device, laptop computer, tablet computer, pager, broadband personal communication device, global positioning or navigation system, electronic game device, or portable computer device.

(C)   A driver of a motor vehicle may not use a portable electronic device to view, send, or compose an electronic message or engage other application software while operating a motor vehicle on a public roadway with the city.

[...]

link

TEXTING AND APP USE PROHIBITED WHILE DRIVING probably communicates that a lot more clearly than whatever the hell they were attempting with that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 15, 2020, 03:04:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 15, 2020, 02:34:30 PM
Question for anyone.

This sign in DC (https://goo.gl/maps/DxaTpRqJ7w6MQmi47) (image below) implies that the center lane can turn right or go straight between 4 and 6:30pm. Great. What about other times of day?

There are no markings or arrows approaching the intersection besides this sign to indicate legal maneuvers outside of these hours. Can all three lanes proceed straight outside these hours, since no lane forces anyone to turn?

I posted this here because it's a relatively unique sign.

(https://i.imgur.com/717IMrW.png)

Great question.

[The sign should say Mon-Fri, but it doesn't.]

The normal rules would apply at other times.  All three lanes can go straight.  Right turns may only be made from the right most lane and left turns may only be made from the leftmost lane.

However, it is important to note that during the times 4-6:30 PM Mon-Fri, parking is prohibited in the right lane.  At other times parking is permitted, and there are usually parked cars there.  While you may proceed straight if you are in the rightmost lane, it is unlikely that you'd do so since you would then need to merge back into the next lane to the left to avoid the upcoming parked cars.  This is why the traffic sign also needs Mon-Fri, becasue the traffic sign only applies when the parking restrictions make this stretch effectively 3 lanes instead of 2.

Since there is some confusion, while you can go straight from the rightmost lane during off-peak times, I advise against it as someone from the middle lane may turn right into you.

The right turn path denotes a prominent way from Captiol Hill to the 14th St bridge to Virginia.  Since left turns are prohibited from Independence to 14th, traffic on Independence will make a left at 12th, a right at C [at this intersection], and then a left on 14th to the bridge.  This is a very busy routing during the afternoon rush and two lanes are probably necessary to deal with traffic.

DC is in the process of removing or restricting (red arrow) most double turns.  I wonder if this is on the list.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on September 17, 2020, 07:55:51 AM
An overhead BGS on the PA Turnpike was recently replaced with a post mounted BGS. Notice the exit speed on the BGS differs with the posted exit speed sign found immediately after the BGS.

(https://i.imgur.com/hP1o9cN.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman on September 17, 2020, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: tylert120 on September 17, 2020, 07:55:51 AM
An overhead BGS on the PA Turnpike was recently replaced with a post mounted BGS. Notice the exit speed on the BGS differs with the posted exit speed sign found immediately after the BGS.

(https://i.imgur.com/hP1o9cN.jpg)

Lower ramp speed than exit speed perhaps?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jemacedo9 on September 17, 2020, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: roadman on September 17, 2020, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: tylert120 on September 17, 2020, 07:55:51 AM
An overhead BGS on the PA Turnpike was recently replaced with a post mounted BGS. Notice the exit speed on the BGS differs with the posted exit speed sign found immediately after the BGS.

(https://i.imgur.com/hP1o9cN.jpg)

Lower ramp speed than exit speed perhaps?
They didn't coordinate the BGS change with the other sign change?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 18, 2020, 10:22:31 AM
This isn't really that unusual, but I have a question:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SB_I-75_Marion_Co_Rest_Area;_White_Object_Markers.jpg
White object markers; Are they considered Type 1 or Type 2?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 19, 2020, 04:06:40 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 18, 2020, 10:22:31 AM
This isn't really that unusual, but I have a question:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SB_I-75_Marion_Co_Rest_Area;_White_Object_Markers.jpg
White object markers; Are they considered Type 1 or Type 2?

Those are not object markers, they are delineators. While the MUTCD chapter 3F governs general principles, placement and colors of delineators, they don't actually specify the design (other than a minimum dimension of 3 inches).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 20, 2020, 06:12:35 PM
Anyone know what this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1289805,-74.0667957,3a,15.1y,37.16h,90.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9m-9Nu2_n_85YR-Y58rLsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) is? :wow:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 20, 2020, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 20, 2020, 06:12:35 PM
Anyone know what this (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1289805,-74.0667957,3a,15.1y,37.16h,90.12t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9m-9Nu2_n_85YR-Y58rLsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) is? :wow:

That's how New Jersey signs an upcoming traffic circle or roundabout (at least in parts of the state and/or used to).  Move ahead a few clicks in Streetview. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on September 21, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
Check out the mileage numerals on these new attraction signs at the Donegal interchange on the PA Turnpike. Yikes.

https://imgur.com/a/cikE26n (https://imgur.com/a/cikE26n)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Old Dominionite on September 21, 2020, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on September 21, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
Check out the mileage numerals on these new attraction signs at the Donegal interchange on the PA Turnpike. Yikes.

https://imgur.com/a/cikE26n (https://imgur.com/a/cikE26n)

Lol. Looks like the handiwork of a local second grade class.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 22, 2020, 01:19:24 AM
Something about this backlit "ONE WAY" sign in Vancouver, WA is giving me "really old" vibes: https://goo.gl/maps/WfEnWqVWGaRX7s5V8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 22, 2020, 03:04:55 PM
Probably the fact that the font they used resembles something from approximately 1947?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 22, 2020, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 22, 2020, 03:04:55 PM
Probably the fact that the font they used resembles something from approximately 1947?

That was my thought. I don't see signs with fonts that old very often. The one-way system was put in place in the late 60s, so the signs couldn't be older than that. Unless they were taken from somewhere else.

I wasn't sure if the font was old, the sign was old, a combo of both, or only a couple letters were old (older boxy "O" but everything else normal, for instance).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on September 22, 2020, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: 1 on September 15, 2020, 12:29:21 PM
Arguable worst of:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50345109578_d27715364e_c.jpg) (Haverhill, MA)

Haverhill can't get any mixed-case street blades correct. This one (which I've seen before) is the most egregious, but there are others.

Haverhill also messes up other signs as well, https://goo.gl/maps/SqL5s6dn47DFJXwz6

(Bonus on that one is that they placed it in Plaistow NH. I know it's Haverhill's handiwork because the other end of the road has the same sign).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 22, 2020, 04:56:08 PM
I have seen this abomination too many times lately:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6239966,-97.6903865,3a,15y,9h,91.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9uzZBwa1FY8McUsXzXvVVw!2e0!5s20181201T000000!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6239966,-97.6903865,3a,15y,9h,91.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9uzZBwa1FY8McUsXzXvVVw!2e0!5s20181201T000000!7i16384!8i8192)

It may not seem like much at first glance, but every time I see it, the letters are too close to the margins.  It looks way cramped like someone with no time had to spit it out real quick and didn't care. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 23, 2020, 02:53:04 AM
This may not count for much, but the situation overall is fairly interesting:

WA-522 northbound at US-2; Monroe, WA: https://goo.gl/maps/v6KATX2kWJBpB6Cd8

The sign shows that the left lane is for US-2 West towards Everett, WA; the right lane is for US-2 East towards Wenatchee, WA.

This is correct, however, the left lane is heavily used to access US-2 East, to allow traffic to reach a traffic signal that is bypassed by the other exit. At the bottom of the off-ramp for "US-2 West", there are only two lanes, and both turn left towards US-2 East, with the right lane being an optional left/right turn lane instead.

My hunch tells me this layout remains from before the slip ramp was installed about ten years ago to allow unimpeded flow to and from US-2. Still, I feel like the sign on the left could also benefit from something saying "Kelsey St Northbound"; this could also go on a post-mounted sign. At any rate, the street is mentioned nowhere, and traffic that uses the US-2 East exit will end up overshooting the turn. Hardly a big deal, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 23, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 23, 2020, 02:53:04 AM
This may not count for much, but the situation overall is fairly interesting:

WA-522 northbound at US-2; Monroe, WA: https://goo.gl/maps/v6KATX2kWJBpB6Cd8

The sign shows that the left lane is for US-2 West towards Everett, WA; the right lane is for US-2 East towards Wenatchee, WA.

This is correct, however, the left lane is heavily used to access US-2 East, to allow traffic to reach a traffic signal that is bypassed by the other exit. At the bottom of the off-ramp for "US-2 West", there are only two lanes, and both turn left towards US-2 East, with the right lane being an optional left/right turn lane instead.

This part here is troubling.  The right lane should be for right turns only so that they are not blocked by people making a left and waiting for a green light.  There  can't be that much demand for the left here, given the existence of the slip lane.

Quote from: jakeroot on September 23, 2020, 02:53:04 AM
My hunch tells me this layout remains from before the slip ramp was installed about ten years ago to allow unimpeded flow to and from US-2. Still, I feel like the sign on the left could also benefit from something saying "Kelsey St Northbound"; this could also go on a post-mounted sign. At any rate, the street is mentioned nowhere, and traffic that uses the US-2 East exit will end up overshooting the turn. Hardly a big deal, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Probably right.  A Kelsey st north sign would be helpful as those are likely the only people who would still use the old ramp and wait for the light to turn left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 23, 2020, 02:26:54 PM
Quote from: mrsman on September 23, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 23, 2020, 02:53:04 AM
This may not count for much, but the situation overall is fairly interesting:

WA-522 northbound at US-2; Monroe, WA: https://goo.gl/maps/v6KATX2kWJBpB6Cd8

The sign shows that the left lane is for US-2 West towards Everett, WA; the right lane is for US-2 East towards Wenatchee, WA.

This is correct, however, the left lane is heavily used to access US-2 East, to allow traffic to reach a traffic signal that is bypassed by the other exit. At the bottom of the off-ramp for "US-2 West", there are only two lanes, and both turn left towards US-2 East, with the right lane being an optional left/right turn lane instead.

This part here is troubling.  The right lane should be for right turns only so that they are not blocked by people making a left and waiting for a green light.  There  can't be that much demand for the left here, given the existence of the slip lane.

To the best of my knowledge, the only reason for that left turn from the old off-ramp even remaining is for traffic to reach northbound Kelsey St. It's hard for me to believe this movement remains so popular, but I cannot find a GSV image without at least one car waiting to turn left from the off-ramp, with several showing many cars waiting, although many (if not everyone) are in the inner left turn lane, for easier access to the following left turn lane. Given this, changing the right lane to a right-only would make sense.

If they wanted to go crazy, they could always keep the double left, but then modify the right turn to be through a larger slip ramp. But this seems expensive for a small benefit.

Long term, WA-522 is to be extended north to a Monroe Bypass, which is intended to eventually be controlled-access, much like WA-522 (note the stub ramp on the southern end of the overpass). This is unrelated but it should be noted how many long-term changes are expected in this area. The slip ramp was one of many changes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:29:13 PM
Seen yesterday: the only (mostly) intact Mile 69 post found in the wild. (https://goo.gl/maps/MaWxHR3VCJEKUmYf8)  It's bolted to the leg of a larger sign, and must be harder to steal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:14:16 AM
How many blue distance signs are there?

Here's an example southwest of Anacortes, WA westbound on Hwy 20 (https://goo.gl/maps/iZM2jzGJbNAD5Azk6). Only installed in the last few years:

(https://i.imgur.com/NdTPwEb.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 24, 2020, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
... really old .... ... circa 1993 or 1994 ....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on September 24, 2020, 07:36:04 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 24, 2020, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
... really old .... ... circa 1993 or 1994 ....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If a cat or dog born in 1993 or 1994 can be considered really old, why can't a SPUI?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 24, 2020, 07:45:27 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 24, 2020, 07:36:04 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 24, 2020, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
... really old .... ... circa 1993 or 1994 ....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If a cat or dog born in 1993 or 1994 can be considered really old, why can't a SPUI?

Jake's not a cat, and neither is that SPUI. :D

I guess if it's before one's time, then "really old" is relativistic. But considering that similar infrastructure could last an average of 50-60 years, it's more "middle-aged".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 24, 2020, 07:58:28 AM
Of course I also get the idea of something being "old" relative to other examples of the same design–so, for example, one day we might come to refer to the first few DDIs as "really old" for DDIs. The first SPUI I remember seeing was built in the early- to mid-1980s (Gallows Road and Arlington Boulevard here in Fairfax County), so the one referred to here didn't strike me as falling into that category either way, but really it just struck me as funny to see "really old" used in that way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 24, 2020, 10:35:45 AM
Quote from: 1 on September 24, 2020, 07:36:04 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 24, 2020, 07:32:33 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
... really old .... ... circa 1993 or 1994 ....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If a cat or dog born in 1993 or 1994 can be considered really old, why can't a SPUI?

That's because of their, relative to humans, short life spans. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 24, 2020, 10:48:30 AM
Do Not Enter - Downtown Hot Springs, AR

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4724/39302607284_503be73917_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 24, 2020, 01:34:50 PM
Looks more like a Norwegian wrong way sign than anything that should be in the US.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Norway_road_sign_565.svg/450px-Norway_road_sign_565.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 24, 2020, 07:45:27 AM
I guess if it's before one's time, then "really old" is relativistic. But considering that similar infrastructure could last an average of 50-60 years, it's more "middle-aged".
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 24, 2020, 07:58:28 AM
Of course I also get the idea of something being "old" relative to other examples of the same design–so, for example, one day we might come to refer to the first few DDIs as "really old" for DDIs. The first SPUI I remember seeing was built in the early- to mid-1980s (Gallows Road and Arlington Boulevard here in Fairfax County), so the one referred to here didn't strike me as falling into that category either way, but really it just struck me as funny to see "really old" used in that way.

When I say "really old", I am referring to other SPUIs. They may have been built out east starting much earlier, but did not trek west until the late 80s (first two examples were in Denver and Colorado Springs, I believe). Even then, the vast majority were designed and/or built after the retirement of button copy. So to see a SPUI with button copy is quite unusual.

Phoenix's Piestewa Freeway has some very old SPUIs (relative to other west coast SPUIs) that were built in 1990; those might have had button copy when they first opened, since Arizona was either the last or second to last to retire button copy, certainly well after 1990.

I also know that Ohio specified button copy well into the 1990s. If there are any that were built around there in the 90s (Sawmill Road @ I-270 in Dublin is quite old but not 90s-old), there might have also been button copy at those interchanges.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 24, 2020, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 02:34:56 PMPhoenix's Piestewa Freeway has some very old SPUIs (relative to other west coast SPUIs) that were built in 1990; those might have had button copy when they first opened, since Arizona was either the last or second to last to retire button copy, certainly well after 1990.

Arizona DOT didn't stop using button copy until 1998-1999 (I think Richard Moeur mentioned years ago on misc.transport.road that the last big sign rehabilitation involving button copy was on I-17, but the metric signs on I-19 were updated circa 1999 and the crossroads signs at least are framed button copy).  But I think those parts of SR 51 might have been City of Phoenix projects, so I'm not 100% sure their signs followed ADOT practice.

In Utah, the I-15 widening design-build in the early noughties put in SPUIs at many interchanges.

Kansas' first SPUI is generally considered to be the West Street interchange on Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400) in Wichita, completed circa 1987, though there's room for disagreement as to whether it is a conforming example since it allows straight-through traffic parallel to Kellogg on the north side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 24, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 02:34:56 PM
When I say "really old", I am referring to other SPUIs. They may have been built out east starting much earlier, but did not trek west until the late 80s (first two examples were in Denver and Colorado Springs, I believe).

I'm not sure when those were built, but Utah's first SPUI was the 3200 West interchange on SR 201 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7267185,-111.9684281,330m/data=!3m1!1e3), which opened all the way back in 1980. Also notable because it has the only signage I've seen for the "2100 South Freeway (https://goo.gl/maps/WvBaGZWUAFgUwc4ZA)" - an older name that has mostly fallen out of use now in favor of the route number.

The first ones on an interstate were the California Avenue (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7406752,-111.9497001,329m/data=!3m1!1e3) and 6200 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6377139,-111.8091873,660m/data=!3m1!1e3) interchanges on I-215, which opened in 1988 and 1989. Then a whole bunch of them were put in on I-15 in Salt Lake County in the late 90s/early 00s as part of the Olympic reconstruction Winkler mentioned above, and several more have been buit since. If my quick count is right, the state now has 38 total.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 24, 2020, 07:44:06 PM
Quote from: Buffaboy on September 14, 2020, 10:30:31 PM
I never realized how unique these "stadium in use" signs around the Buffalo Southtowns are, because I see them so often. I think there's only 2, but I might be wrong?

We could use some of those. Seattle just puts "STADIUM EVENT / EXPECT DELAYS" on all the nearby VMS boards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 24, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 02:34:56 PM
When I say "really old", I am referring to other SPUIs. They may have been built out east starting much earlier, but did not trek west until the late 80s (first two examples were in Denver and Colorado Springs, I believe).

I'm not sure when those were built, but Utah's first SPUI was the 3200 West interchange on SR 201 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7267185,-111.9684281,330m/data=!3m1!1e3), which opened all the way back in 1980. Also notable because it has the only signage I've seen for the "2100 South Freeway (https://goo.gl/maps/WvBaGZWUAFgUwc4ZA)" - an older name that has mostly fallen out of use now in favor of the route number.

The first ones on an interstate were the California Avenue (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7406752,-111.9497001,329m/data=!3m1!1e3) and 6200 South (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6377139,-111.8091873,660m/data=!3m1!1e3) interchanges on I-215, which opened in 1988 and 1989. Then a whole bunch of them were put in on I-15 in Salt Lake County in the late 90s/early 00s as part of the Olympic reconstruction Winkler mentioned above, and several more have been buit since. If my quick count is right, the state now has 38 total.

Thank you a bunch for the information. Utah was the first state I went to when I was looking at SPUI ages, since there are so many, and I know many of them are quite old. Unfortunately, just doing some brief research through aerial photography, I missed those three examples. Had I caught them (especially the one at 2100 S), it would have completely changed my post from talking about the west to mostly talking about California (since, at the very least, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona all had built several, if not dozens, of SPUIs by the time California built that example in Riverside). I only caught the ones in Colorado when doing some Googling about the I-25/Garden of the Gods SPUI (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8967923,-104.8300791,297m/data=!3m1!1e3) in Colorado Springs which, to my amazement while browsing aerial photography, dated way back to before I thought it was installed (I have family that live in the area).

I don't know a ton about Utah, but I think button copy was still being installed by 1980? I bet that SPUI would have been installed with some.

Although I know you're not refuting it, I still maintain that SPUIs, generally speaking, largely came into fashion out west after the button-copy era had finished, so finding a SPUI signed with button copy would be a fairly unusual occurrence (today or even when they were originally built). It may very well be that the 215 Freeway SPUI near March AFB in Riverside is the only one in the country today with button copy, since (A) SPUIs really only showed up in the 80s out west (largely 90s), (B) mostly in states that had largely discarded button copy by the time those interchanges were being built, and (C) California tends to keep signs around for longer, and any button copy-signed SPUIs elsewhere likely have been updated with newer signage (the 2100 S example has likely seen more than one replacement project, knowing UDOT).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 08:08:03 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 24, 2020, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 02:34:56 PMPhoenix's Piestewa Freeway has some very old SPUIs (relative to other west coast SPUIs) that were built in 1990; those might have had button copy when they first opened, since Arizona was either the last or second to last to retire button copy, certainly well after 1990.

Arizona DOT didn't stop using button copy until 1998-1999 (I think Richard Moeur mentioned years ago on misc.transport.road that the last big sign rehabilitation involving button copy was on I-17, but the metric signs on I-19 were updated circa 1999 and the crossroads signs at least are framed button copy).  But I think those parts of SR 51 might have been City of Phoenix projects, so I'm not 100% sure their signs followed ADOT practice.

In Utah, the I-15 widening design-build in the early noughties put in SPUIs at many interchanges.

Kansas' first SPUI is generally considered to be the West Street interchange on Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400) in Wichita, completed circa 1987, though there's room for disagreement as to whether it is a conforming example since it allows straight-through traffic parallel to Kellogg on the north side.

That misc.transport.road page, which is linked on the Wiki page for button copy, is where I got some of my info in the above post.

Unrelated: it's quite interesting that I was alive for button copy, since I so strongly associate button copy with old standards. It's interesting how long it took some states to adopt retroreflective sheeting. The fact that Arizona was still using it in 1999 is remarkable. Not saying retroreflective sheeting is this immensely-preferable option, but it seems to have been in very wide circulation by that time.

Those early-noughties SPUIs along I-15 in Utah are the exact reason I started doing my armchair research in Utah, since I know they've been using SPUIs very widely for a long time. Still, until I found the examples in Colorado (and not images, only this research paper (https://trid.trb.org/view/351446) from CU Denver published by TRB), I was assuming that Phoenix's 1990/1991-constructed SPUIs along the Piestewa (née "Squaw Peak") Freeway were the oldest SPUIs "out west". For my purposes, I put the north-south line defining "out west" through Colorado for no particular reason. PDT seemed too restrictive.

For the record: the CA-237 SPUI in Mountain View includes straight-through options, but I was still counting it towards one of California's first SPUIs since the "spirit" of the design was still there, even if frontage roads were involved.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).

The 1995 vintage CA 241 at Alton Pkwy SPUI still had button copy the last time I checked:
https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7 (https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 25, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 07:58:03 PM
I don't know a ton about Utah, but I think button copy was still being installed by 1980? I bet that SPUI would have been installed with some.

I doubt it, actually. I know of five remaining button copy signs in Utah and I don't think any of them are newer than mid-1970s. Utah had definitely abandoned button copy by the mid-1980s, because believe it or not, several signs of that age still stand in the Salt Lake metro area.

That 3200 West interchange actually has quite a bit of older (https://goo.gl/maps/ZEkMuqLPHYcMVDvA9)-looking (https://goo.gl/maps/RtWVAaQSBunANXiy7) signage (https://goo.gl/maps/hR6E1ztKzp3as1UY7), which I assume is original to the interchange (along with the "2100 So. Freeway" signs I mentioned above) because it looks nothing like anything I've seen at any other interchange in the state. To me, those signs suggest UDOT said "hmm, we're building this new weird interchange, how do we sign this?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).

The 1995 vintage CA 241 at Alton Pkwy SPUI still had button copy the last time I checked:
https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7 (https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7)

Nice!!! I knew there was another SPUI somewhere else in Southern California that was older, but I couldn't recall where. I even saved that location on my Google Maps because of the silver signals (fairly unusual color), but even that didn't tip me off. Oh well. Great find, and I guess that makes likely two remaining SPUIs in the US with button copy :-D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 25, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 07:58:03 PM
I don't know a ton about Utah, but I think button copy was still being installed by 1980? I bet that SPUI would have been installed with some.

I doubt it, actually. I know of five remaining button copy signs in Utah and I don't think any of them are newer than mid-1970s. Utah had definitely abandoned button copy by the mid-1980s, because believe it or not, several signs of that age still stand in the Salt Lake metro area.

That 3200 West interchange actually has quite a bit of older (https://goo.gl/maps/ZEkMuqLPHYcMVDvA9)-looking (https://goo.gl/maps/RtWVAaQSBunANXiy7) signage (https://goo.gl/maps/hR6E1ztKzp3as1UY7), which I assume is original to the interchange (along with the "2100 So. Freeway" signs I mentioned above) because it looks nothing like anything I've seen at any other interchange in the state. To me, those signs suggest UDOT said "hmm, we're building this new weird interchange, how do we sign this?"

Very reasonable conclusions. Especially with the all caps, that definitely could date back to original construction (I think CalTrans and WSDOT were early users of mixed-case, but I believe all-caps was normal in most states for many decades). If I'm to be surprised by anything here, it's that the interchange's only modification has been a couple extra lanes on the flyover and an extra westbound right turn. Given this, I guess there'd be no reason to replace the signs (other than adding that new overhead on the westbound off-ramp).

Do you know if UDOT puts any year-identification stickers on their signs? I see a couple of small stickers on the back of a few of those older signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).

The 1995 vintage CA 241 at Alton Pkwy SPUI still had button copy the last time I checked:
https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7 (https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7)

Nice!!! I knew there was another SPUI somewhere else in Southern California that was older, but I couldn't recall where. I even saved that location on my Google Maps because of the silver signals (fairly unusual color), but even that didn't tip me off. Oh well. Great find, and I guess that makes likely two remaining SPUIs in the US with button copy :-D.

One more a couple of miles south on CA 241, at Portola: https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29 (https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29)
This was the south end of CA 241 from 1995 to 1998.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 04:16:25 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).

The 1995 vintage CA 241 at Alton Pkwy SPUI still had button copy the last time I checked:
https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7 (https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7)

Nice!!! I knew there was another SPUI somewhere else in Southern California that was older, but I couldn't recall where. I even saved that location on my Google Maps because of the silver signals (fairly unusual color), but even that didn't tip me off. Oh well. Great find, and I guess that makes likely two remaining SPUIs in the US with button copy :-D.

One more a couple of miles south on CA 241, at Portola: https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29 (https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29)
This was the south end of CA 241 from 1995 to 1998.

Bloody hell. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut while you pull up yet-more examples :-D

Those overhead signs are not beautiful though. Really odd arrows and the sign is tiny. But, +1000 for button copy.

Alright, new question: do any other states have SPUIs with button copy? I'm still pretty damn sure that California is the only one. I assume Arizona and Ohio would be most likely.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 04:16:25 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).

The 1995 vintage CA 241 at Alton Pkwy SPUI still had button copy the last time I checked:
https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7 (https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7)

Nice!!! I knew there was another SPUI somewhere else in Southern California that was older, but I couldn't recall where. I even saved that location on my Google Maps because of the silver signals (fairly unusual color), but even that didn't tip me off. Oh well. Great find, and I guess that makes likely two remaining SPUIs in the US with button copy :-D.

One more a couple of miles south on CA 241, at Portola: https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29 (https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29)
This was the south end of CA 241 from 1995 to 1998.

Bloody hell. I'm just going to keep my mouth shut while you pull up yet-more examples :-D

Those overhead signs are not beautiful though. Really odd arrows and the sign is tiny. But, +1000 for button copy.

Alright, new question: do any other states have SPUIs with button copy? I'm still pretty damn sure that California is the only one. I assume Arizona and Ohio would be most likely.

CAlifornia only counts because you know those are 1950s signs repurposed and greened out for use at SPUIs.   :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
Nothing aesthetically wrong with this signs:

https://goo.gl/maps/2CpVD3adbXJbUfeH6 (https://goo.gl/maps/2CpVD3adbXJbUfeH6)

I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 25, 2020, 05:17:19 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:16:10 PM
Do you know if UDOT puts any year-identification stickers on their signs? I see a couple of small stickers on the back of a few of those older signs.

They put the last two digits of the install year in the corner of most signs, but the older ones at 3200 West are probably too old for that. Not familiar with any sort of identification sticker program - at the very least, the button copy signs I've taken a closer look at all lack any stickers or year identification.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?

Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless.

I thought that was why. But I turned and didn't even see a hill where that would be necessary. Seems like a waste then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Eth on September 25, 2020, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 

There's also this one on GA 154 in Atlanta (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7473154,-84.3135952,3a,15.1y,273h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMTB4SsJmeum070AhwzRTEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), on a very tall mast arm above an otherwise span-wire assembly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: Eth on September 25, 2020, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 

There's also this one on GA 154 in Atlanta (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7473154,-84.3135952,3a,15.1y,273h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMTB4SsJmeum070AhwzRTEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), on a very tall mast arm above an otherwise span-wire assembly.

These are all very interesting. I have never seen a signal mounted above mast arm or span wire height.

The vast majority of signals placed to improve visibility around here are either placed on the backside of opposing signals (https://goo.gl/maps/ScJD4yyfav5qkS477), near-side on a pole (https://goo.gl/maps/gLGXXELLtpCVn3h37), or on the mast itself (https://goo.gl/maps/yNn1ukQXM2JZb1Kq8). But the general rule of thumb seems to be: never above the mast arm.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 26, 2020, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: Eth on September 25, 2020, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 

There's also this one on GA 154 in Atlanta (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7473154,-84.3135952,3a,15.1y,273h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMTB4SsJmeum070AhwzRTEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), on a very tall mast arm above an otherwise span-wire assembly.

That one just gives me Ontario vibes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 26, 2020, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: Eth on September 25, 2020, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 

There's also this one on GA 154 in Atlanta (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7473154,-84.3135952,3a,15.1y,273h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMTB4SsJmeum070AhwzRTEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), on a very tall mast arm above an otherwise span-wire assembly.

These are all very interesting. I have never seen a signal mounted above mast arm or span wire height.

The vast majority of signals placed to improve visibility around here are either placed on the backside of opposing signals (https://goo.gl/maps/ScJD4yyfav5qkS477), near-side on a pole (https://goo.gl/maps/gLGXXELLtpCVn3h37), or on the mast itself (https://goo.gl/maps/yNn1ukQXM2JZb1Kq8). But the general rule of thumb seems to be: never above the mast arm.
Missouri does it rarely; this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6496353,-90.5075051,3a,75y,188.75h,80.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKe1nccPWBhT28xkh2m1Qvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) was replaced (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6496354,-90.5075241,3a,75y,188.75h,80.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr05a4XdYx-mWglcszfG_gA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) in 2015. CA is the reigning king of putting mast arms on higher poles imo, especially facing the other direction (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8035376,-116.9929617,3a,22.2y,246.09h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1yyQKdwY5dWrYk-Tkf-53g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 27, 2020, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 26, 2020, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: Eth on September 25, 2020, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 

There's also this one on GA 154 in Atlanta (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7473154,-84.3135952,3a,15.1y,273h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMTB4SsJmeum070AhwzRTEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), on a very tall mast arm above an otherwise span-wire assembly.

These are all very interesting. I have never seen a signal mounted above mast arm or span wire height.

The vast majority of signals placed to improve visibility around here are either placed on the backside of opposing signals (https://goo.gl/maps/ScJD4yyfav5qkS477), near-side on a pole (https://goo.gl/maps/gLGXXELLtpCVn3h37), or on the mast itself (https://goo.gl/maps/yNn1ukQXM2JZb1Kq8). But the general rule of thumb seems to be: never above the mast arm.
Missouri does it rarely; this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6496353,-90.5075051,3a,75y,188.75h,80.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKe1nccPWBhT28xkh2m1Qvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) was replaced (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6496354,-90.5075241,3a,75y,188.75h,80.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr05a4XdYx-mWglcszfG_gA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) in 2015. CA is the reigning king of putting mast arms on higher poles imo, especially facing the other direction (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8035376,-116.9929617,3a,22.2y,246.09h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1yyQKdwY5dWrYk-Tkf-53g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).

Here's another one that I would pass by regularly when I lived in CA.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0569425,-118.3459296,3a,75y,9.49h,82.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYw96O19zy8dM6TDhX0QDzg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Uphill and on a major bend in the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on September 27, 2020, 01:12:55 PM
Quote from: mrsman on September 27, 2020, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 26, 2020, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 08:39:05 PM
Quote from: Eth on September 25, 2020, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2020, 05:14:46 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 25, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
I pass this sign all the time.  The problem is the actual road, and subsequent street sign at the signal is one word, not two.  Very frustrating. 

https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8 (https://goo.gl/maps/oGzbRzaQ2Ntm3HHp8)

If you turn the camera around, there's a pole-mounted signal that's way above the mast arms. Is that common practice in Texas?


Yes, in the last 20 years.  It's great for blind-ish hills, but they do it so much, even where there aren't blind hills or curves,  most of the time it's kinda useless. 

There's also this one on GA 154 in Atlanta (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7473154,-84.3135952,3a,15.1y,273h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMTB4SsJmeum070AhwzRTEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), on a very tall mast arm above an otherwise span-wire assembly.

These are all very interesting. I have never seen a signal mounted above mast arm or span wire height.

The vast majority of signals placed to improve visibility around here are either placed on the backside of opposing signals (https://goo.gl/maps/ScJD4yyfav5qkS477), near-side on a pole (https://goo.gl/maps/gLGXXELLtpCVn3h37), or on the mast itself (https://goo.gl/maps/yNn1ukQXM2JZb1Kq8). But the general rule of thumb seems to be: never above the mast arm.
Missouri does it rarely; this example (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6496353,-90.5075051,3a,75y,188.75h,80.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKe1nccPWBhT28xkh2m1Qvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) was replaced (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6496354,-90.5075241,3a,75y,188.75h,80.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr05a4XdYx-mWglcszfG_gA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) in 2015. CA is the reigning king of putting mast arms on higher poles imo, especially facing the other direction (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8035376,-116.9929617,3a,22.2y,246.09h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1yyQKdwY5dWrYk-Tkf-53g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/).

Here's another one that I would pass by regularly when I lived in CA.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0569425,-118.3459296,3a,75y,9.49h,82.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYw96O19zy8dM6TDhX0QDzg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Uphill and on a major bend in the road.
Well that's (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0570528,-118.3459753,3a,57.1y,311.69h,125.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ4AK2vX5m8vXVUvkeqWitA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) an interesting pole design.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on September 27, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
I don't know how unique this is, but this sign in San Diego (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8916447,-117.2404839,3a,19.5y,102.7h,85.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAzf5qa6-iwoiSI1B05xq8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) directs bicycles to use a pedestrian button to request a left turn.

I was there yesterday and it seems that since the street view was taken, a second push button was added to the outside of the pole so that cyclists wouldn't have to dismount.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on September 28, 2020, 12:36:43 AM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2020, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: MarkF on September 25, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 24, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 23, 2020, 08:40:33 PM
This was tipped off to me by Jake's link on another thread, but button copy on a SPUI? (https://goo.gl/maps/X3gYxT1c2WgnKrTi6)  Either it's an old SPUI, a recent button copy installation, or signs reused from the previous interchange.

It's actually a really old SPUI. It was built circa 1993 or 1994, when the 215 was finished south of the 60 Freeway.

The only other place that might have a SPUI with button copy would be AZ, since some of their SPUIs were built in the 1990s (such as those along the 51).

The 1995 vintage CA 241 at Alton Pkwy SPUI still had button copy the last time I checked:
https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7 (https://goo.gl/maps/iMSEnpDVRSkTpukx7)

Nice!!! I knew there was another SPUI somewhere else in Southern California that was older, but I couldn't recall where. I even saved that location on my Google Maps because of the silver signals (fairly unusual color), but even that didn't tip me off. Oh well. Great find, and I guess that makes likely two remaining SPUIs in the US with button copy :-D.

One more a couple of miles south on CA 241, at Portola: https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29 (https://goo.gl/maps/eQdAtZU9qS3Vo8L29)
This was the south end of CA 241 from 1995 to 1998.
Here's button copy on a SPUI on Haven at the 10.  It's just north of Ontario International Airport. 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/N+Archibald+Ave,+Ontario,+CA+91764/@34.0679119,-117.5932352,3a,75y,224.02h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_ODEF87fNuJTIIRfFEgv_A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x80c335ab9c67944d:0xcfe7f2c6bcfa32e2

My recollection is that the new overpass with the SPUI was put in at around the time the new terminals were built and the airport entrance was moved from Vineyard to Archibald.  This would have been circa 1998.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NYCDOT on September 29, 2020, 07:47:06 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8074209,-76.9767824,3a,75y,76.86h,100.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sifwBPzXeW3Czn-qmI4SKdQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8074209,-76.9767824,3a,75y,76.86h,100.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sifwBPzXeW3Czn-qmI4SKdQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Very strange font/font size.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on September 29, 2020, 03:21:30 PM
Quote from: NYCDOT on September 29, 2020, 07:47:06 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8074209,-76.9767824,3a,75y,76.86h,100.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sifwBPzXeW3Czn-qmI4SKdQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8074209,-76.9767824,3a,75y,76.86h,100.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sifwBPzXeW3Czn-qmI4SKdQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Very strange font/font size.
looks like Clearview 1-W.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on September 29, 2020, 04:49:52 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2083/2310479858_5395b1bcb6_d.jpg)

Greenland, AR
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 30, 2020, 12:04:15 AM
WARNING! WASHINGTON COUNTY ROAD!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ozarkman417 on September 30, 2020, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 30, 2020, 12:04:15 AM
WARNING! WASHINGTON COUNTY ROAD!

Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
WARNING!  This is the way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 30, 2020, 12:09:23 AM
I think signing it with a diamond tends to speak toward the quality of Washington County's road department more than anything, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 30, 2020, 01:47:26 AM
Taken a few weeks ago next to the new Lander Street Bridge in Seattle:

(https://i.imgur.com/wtlahGZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on September 30, 2020, 02:43:08 AM
WARNING! BIKE PATH CROSSES SCANDINAVIA!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 30, 2020, 11:12:38 AM
Quote from: US71 on September 29, 2020, 04:49:52 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2083/2310479858_5395b1bcb6_d.jpg)

Greenland, AR
Quote from: ozarkman417 on September 30, 2020, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 30, 2020, 12:04:15 AM
WARNING! WASHINGTON COUNTY ROAD!

Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
WARNING!  This is the way.

That sign is begging for a hexagon inscribed in that route pentagon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I learned recently in a safety presentation, the reason for non 5 based speed limits is so that it sticks out in the minds of vehicle operators.  The thinking is if it is an oddball speed, the more likely the speed will be remembered and followed by the operator.   This one seems a bit silly, but that is the reason for 18, 22, 38 mph speed limits.  The road on the site is designed for that speed on purpose, and they post it exactly thinking its will more likely be followed. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 01, 2020, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
...and they post it exactly thinking its will more likely be followed. 

Signs have wills now?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 01, 2020, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
...and they post it exactly thinking its will more likely be followed. 

Signs have wills now?

Sure
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 01, 2020, 01:08:48 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 01:03:33 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 01, 2020, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
...and they post it exactly thinking its will more likely be followed. 

Signs have wills now?

Sure
Persignification.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 01, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
Interesting way to denote Water Street in Elmira, New York; at the NY 352 exit off I-86/NY 17:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50400339398_1217be2a75_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jMGUYW)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I forgot to mention that this sign was on private property. So any sort of regular thought process likely went out the window (since there's really no consequences). Something tells me that they are just having fun, or that the company which runs the logistics facility requires vehicles in their property to stick to 11.5 MPH so that's why it's on the sign. Still....why the F is that the limit? :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 01, 2020, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I forgot to mention that this sign was on private property. So any sort of regular thought process likely went out the window (since there's really no consequences). Something tells me that they are just having fun, or that the company which runs the logistics facility requires vehicles in their property to stick to 11.5 MPH so that's why it's on the sign. Still....why the F is that the limit? :-D

1s are thinner than other digits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 05:17:08 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 01, 2020, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I forgot to mention that this sign was on private property. So any sort of regular thought process likely went out the window (since there's really no consequences). Something tells me that they are just having fun, or that the company which runs the logistics facility requires vehicles in their property to stick to 11.5 MPH so that's why it's on the sign. Still....why the F is that the limit? :-D

1s are thinner than other digits.

Are you thinking instead of 11.5, it used to say 25 or something? Not sure I follow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 01, 2020, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 05:17:08 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 01, 2020, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I forgot to mention that this sign was on private property. So any sort of regular thought process likely went out the window (since there's really no consequences). Something tells me that they are just having fun, or that the company which runs the logistics facility requires vehicles in their property to stick to 11.5 MPH so that's why it's on the sign. Still....why the F is that the limit? :-D

1s are thinner than other digits.

Are you thinking instead of 11.5, it used to say 25 or something? Not sure I follow.

I think they wanted a non-integer to draw attention, but they had to choose 11.5 or else it wouldn't fit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 01, 2020, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 05:17:08 PM
Quote from: 1 on October 01, 2020, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I forgot to mention that this sign was on private property. So any sort of regular thought process likely went out the window (since there's really no consequences). Something tells me that they are just having fun, or that the company which runs the logistics facility requires vehicles in their property to stick to 11.5 MPH so that's why it's on the sign. Still....why the F is that the limit? :-D

1s are thinner than other digits.

Are you thinking instead of 11.5, it used to say 25 or something? Not sure I follow.

I think they wanted a non-integer to draw attention, but they had to choose 11.5 or else it wouldn't fit.

They could have picked something else like 8.5 or 2.5 if they wanted something really weird. It's not like 11.5 is going to be observed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 01, 2020, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 01, 2020, 10:08:31 AM
Quote from: mrsman on October 01, 2020, 06:51:29 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)

Totally silly speed limit.  Usually a non-round MPH speed limit means a rounded speed limit in km/h, but in this case 11.5 MPH ~ 18.5 km/h, so  :hmmm:

I learned recently in a safety presentation, the reason for non 5 based speed limits is so that it sticks out in the minds of vehicle operators.  The thinking is if it is an oddball speed, the more likely the speed will be remembered and followed by the operator.   This one seems a bit silly, but that is the reason for 18, 22, 38 mph speed limits.  The road on the site is designed for that speed on purpose, and they post it exactly thinking its will more likely be followed. 

Quote from: MUTCD Section 2B.13
Standard:
The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2020, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: MUTCD Section 2B.13
Standard:
The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

I believe his point was not to explain the numerous examples of non-5 MPH increment speed limits (of which there really aren't that many), but rather give credence to why they pop up at all. Clearly they are not permitted and never have been, but private property owners get to do what they want. The explanation being: weird numbers stick out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on October 01, 2020, 11:45:01 PM
There was a model of "bicycle computer" that had multiple sensors on a hub rather than just one magnet on a spoke, and was thus surveying enough data to display tenths of a mile per hour.  That's the only digital speedometer that I've ever seen that displays less than whole numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 01:27:47 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 01, 2020, 11:45:01 PM
There was a model of "bicycle computer" that had multiple sensors on a hub rather than just one magnet on a spoke, and was thus surveying enough data to display tenths of a mile per hour.  That's the only digital speedometer that I've ever seen that displays less than whole numbers.

The nav app I use when cycling, OsmAnd, shows my speed in tenths of a mile per hour, as does my Samsung Health app (which actually records my rides with a heart rate sensor).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2020, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: MUTCD Section 2B.13
Standard:
The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

I believe his point was not to explain the numerous examples of non-5 MPH increment speed limits (of which there really aren't that many), but rather give credence to why they pop up at all. Clearly they are not permitted and never have been, but private property owners get to do what they want. The explanation being: weird numbers stick out.

Well, yeah, that's the explanation. To which the next question is, if odd numbers are more likely to be obeyed, why aren't they used more? Because the manual forbids them, which kind of implies that the concept is flawed to begin with, because if they were so effective, the manual would encourage them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 03:20:54 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2020, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: MUTCD Section 2B.13
Standard:
The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

I believe his point was not to explain the numerous examples of non-5 MPH increment speed limits (of which there really aren't that many), but rather give credence to why they pop up at all. Clearly they are not permitted and never have been, but private property owners get to do what they want. The explanation being: weird numbers stick out.

Well, yeah, that's the explanation. To which the next question is, if odd numbers are more likely to be obeyed, why aren't they used more? Because the manual forbids them, which kind of implies that the concept is flawed to begin with, because if they were so effective, the manual would encourage them.

Are you implying that speed limits are generally unknown by the public? Because whether the limit is 11.5 or 30, I think people speed because they just don't give a shit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 02, 2020, 11:52:39 AM
I don't have the cite, but I distantly remember that the effect of oddball speed limit postings on traffic speeds has been systematically studied (probably in the 1960's) and been found not to have any statistically significant effect on the distribution of speeds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 02, 2020, 11:57:55 AM
It's easier to remember a number if I know it's a multiple of 5. If I partially forget (such as between two choices), it's easier to know if there are fewer choices to choose from. On the other hand, "was it 31, 33, 35, 37, or 39? All I can remember is that it was an odd number in the 30s" might be an issue if we used all positive integers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 03:20:54 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2020, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: MUTCD Section 2B.13
Standard:
The Speed Limit (R2-1) sign (see Figure 2B-3) shall display the limit established by law, ordinance, regulation, or as adopted by the authorized agency based on the engineering study. The speed limits displayed shall be in multiples of 5 mph.

I believe his point was not to explain the numerous examples of non-5 MPH increment speed limits (of which there really aren't that many), but rather give credence to why they pop up at all. Clearly they are not permitted and never have been, but private property owners get to do what they want. The explanation being: weird numbers stick out.

Well, yeah, that's the explanation. To which the next question is, if odd numbers are more likely to be obeyed, why aren't they used more? Because the manual forbids them, which kind of implies that the concept is flawed to begin with, because if they were so effective, the manual would encourage them.

Are you implying that speed limits are generally unknown by the public? Because whether the limit is 11.5 or 30, I think people speed because they just don't give a shit.

No...? My observation is simply that if non-round speed limits had any sort of actual, data-based efficacy, rather than anecdotal or "hmm, makes sense to me! common sense!" justifications, then the MUTCD would be silent on or encourage them. That it instead bans them implies that the given justification for them is flawed and NCUTCD is in possession of data to justify their position. If J.N. Winkler's memory is correct, that would seem to confirm that.

I agree that causes of speeding usually have little to do with speed limit signage. Instead, they are often based on roadway design–people go the speed that the environment cues them to go at. If you build an Interstate-grade freeway and sign it at 33⅓ MPH, compliance rates are going to be in the toilet, not because you signed it with a zany number, but because you signed it at anything under 60.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:00:08 PM
My observation is simply that if non-round speed limits had any sort of actual, data-based efficacy, rather than anecdotal or "hmm, makes sense to me! common sense!" justifications, then the MUTCD would be silent on or encourage them. That it instead bans them implies that the given justification for them is flawed and NCUTCD is in possession of data to justify their position. If J.N. Winkler's memory is correct, that would seem to confirm that.

I agree that causes of speeding usually have little to do with speed limit signage. Instead, they are often based on roadway design–people go the speed that the environment cues them to go at. If you build an Interstate-grade freeway and sign it at 33⅓ MPH, compliance rates are going to be in the toilet, not because you signed it with a zany number, but because you signed it at anything under 60.

No no, I agree with your point. Oddball limits are ridiculous, and impossible to remember (as 1 alludes to above). If they're not effective in getting traffic to observe them, as JN Winkler seems to indicate was the case in early studies, there's really no point in allowing them. They'd probably be abused anyways.

The best reason for increments of 5, in my opinion, is simply that speedometers rarely ever show increments of 1. Asking drivers to go 33 mph when there is no mark for 33 on most speedometers is simply unfair. Most new cars finally have electronic speed readouts, and even those that don't often show a digital speedometer when the cruise is set, allowing you to set very specific speeds.

Another question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 02, 2020, 02:41:13 PM
Check out this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7351105,-86.2698116,3a,82.5y,346.36h,94.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA14Wm5wivYQQxyJLCyL_Zw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) by an abandoned set of mast arms near the old IND Airport terminal. It's the oldest sign I've seen in the Indy area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PM
Another question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).

A companion question: why is that you also tend to see more x5 speed limits in the US than x0 ones? Speed limits in neighborhoods are usually 25, not 20 or 30 (when do you ever see 30, really?), arterials are often 35 or 45 (but you see 40 a lot too), and then rural roads and freeways are often 55 or 65. You see 70 a lot, but 75 is starting to take over in a lot of states, although 80 is replacing 75 in some places.

Perhaps it has something to do with the old 55 NMSL, and traffic engineers setting their speed limits as round offsets from that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on October 02, 2020, 03:39:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:58:20 PM

A companion question: why is that you also tend to see more x5 speed limits in the US than x0 ones? Speed limits in neighborhoods are usually 25, not 20 or 30 (when do you ever see 30, really?), arterials are often 35 or 45 (but you see 40 a lot too), and then rural roads and freeways are often 55 or 65. You see 70 a lot, but 75 is starting to take over in a lot of states, although 80 is replacing 75 in some places.

Perhaps it has something to do with the old 55 NMSL, and traffic engineers setting their speed limits as round offsets from that?

This varies from state to state.  Ohio tends to have mostly x5 speed limits, but when I moved to Maryland, I was actually surprised to see a lot of 30 and 40 MPH signs, which seemed unusual to me at the time.   
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on October 02, 2020, 03:58:14 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PM
Another question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).

A companion question: why is that you also tend to see more x5 speed limits in the US than x0 ones? Speed limits in neighborhoods are usually 25, not 20 or 30 (when do you ever see 30, really?), arterials are often 35 or 45 (but you see 40 a lot too), and then rural roads and freeways are often 55 or 65. You see 70 a lot, but 75 is starting to take over in a lot of states, although 80 is replacing 75 in some places.

Perhaps it has something to do with the old 55 NMSL, and traffic engineers setting their speed limits as round offsets from that?
There are lots of 30, 40 and 50 mph speed limits in my area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on October 02, 2020, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 02, 2020, 02:41:13 PM
Check out this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7351105,-86.2698116,3a,82.5y,346.36h,94.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA14Wm5wivYQQxyJLCyL_Zw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) by an abandoned set of mast arms near the old IND Airport terminal. It's the oldest sign I've seen in the Indy area.

Throw that in the "best of road signs" thread. I think it qualifies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 05:47:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PM
Another question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).

A companion question: why is that you also tend to see more x5 speed limits in the US than x0 ones? Speed limits in neighborhoods are usually 25, not 20 or 30 (when do you ever see 30, really?), arterials are often 35 or 45 (but you see 40 a lot too), and then rural roads and freeways are often 55 or 65. You see 70 a lot, but 75 is starting to take over in a lot of states, although 80 is replacing 75 in some places.

Perhaps it has something to do with the old 55 NMSL, and traffic engineers setting their speed limits as round offsets from that?

This is also a great question, and despite prior responses, I would also tend to agree that limits ending in -5 are a bit more common in cities. Although there are quite a few cities (Seattle until recently) where the legislated limit for all roads is 30 unless posted otherwise. Still, I think 25 and 35 are the most common speed limits in the country by a large margin.

There are going to be exceptions to the -5 rule (WA uses either 60 or 70 for basically every freeway), but within cities, it's pretty common to see limits ending in -5, especially 25 and 35.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on October 03, 2020, 03:36:27 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PM
Another question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).

A companion question: why is that you also tend to see more x5 speed limits in the US than x0 ones? Speed limits in neighborhoods are usually 25, not 20 or 30 (when do you ever see 30, really?), arterials are often 35 or 45 (but you see 40 a lot too), and then rural roads and freeways are often 55 or 65. You see 70 a lot, but 75 is starting to take over in a lot of states, although 80 is replacing 75 in some places.

Perhaps it has something to do with the old 55 NMSL, and traffic engineers setting their speed limits as round offsets from that?

I think the NMSL effect could be via cars' speedometers. I think the feds put pressure on the car companies – maybe an actual regulation – to make the "55"  prominent, in the hope of increasing compliance. So for a couple decades, 15—25—35—45—55—65 speedometers were common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 03, 2020, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 01, 2020, 04:45:53 PM
Interesting way to denote Water Street in Elmira, New York; at the NY 352 exit off I-86/NY 17:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50400339398_1217be2a75_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jMGUYW)
That's certainly one of the more unique reuse of one way arrows. And I thought the stuff I saw in Manorville, Calverton, and Riverhead back in the day were odd.

Quote from: jakeroot on October 01, 2020, 02:21:15 AM
Brand new speed limit sign; Tacoma, WA.

Spotted this approaching the car park/truck loading zone of a new logistics facility.

For the record: Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 46.61.415 does not permit limits below 20mph, so this sign is worthless anyways.

(https://i.imgur.com/kjlx8kt.jpg)
But officer, I thought the sign said 115 mph.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 03, 2020, 09:10:39 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on October 03, 2020, 03:36:27 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PM
Another question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).

A companion question: why is that you also tend to see more x5 speed limits in the US than x0 ones? Speed limits in neighborhoods are usually 25, not 20 or 30 (when do you ever see 30, really?), arterials are often 35 or 45 (but you see 40 a lot too), and then rural roads and freeways are often 55 or 65. You see 70 a lot, but 75 is starting to take over in a lot of states, although 80 is replacing 75 in some places.

Perhaps it has something to do with the old 55 NMSL, and traffic engineers setting their speed limits as round offsets from that?

I think the NMSL effect could be via cars' speedometers. I think the feds put pressure on the car companies – maybe an actual regulation – to make the "55"  prominent, in the hope of increasing compliance. So for a couple decades, 15—25—35—45—55—65 speedometers were common.

This was mainly a US automaker thing, and wasn't mandated. Toyota, Nissan and Hondas always used x0 markings, even during the NMSL.

Noting Scott's observances on speed limits, this is also a thing where you see certain limits more than others in different regions or states. There are plenty of 40 mph limits in NJ, for example.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 03, 2020, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 02, 2020, 02:00:08 PMNo...? My observation is simply that if non-round speed limits had any sort of actual, data-based efficacy, rather than anecdotal or "hmm, makes sense to me! common sense!" justifications, then the MUTCD would be silent on or encourage them. That it instead bans them implies that the given justification for them is flawed and NCUTCD is in possession of data to justify their position. If J.N. Winkler's memory is correct, that would seem to confirm that.

I suspect this issue was studied in the 1950's or the 1960's, when much of the basic research into setting speed limits was done.  The trick is finding the appropriate search terms in TRIS--it's partly a question of guessing how "speed limits that are not integer multiples of 5 MPH" would have been specified in the abstract or article text.

Quote from: jakeroot on October 02, 2020, 02:29:54 PMAnother question (probably for JN Winkler): why did the UK decide to adopt 10-mph increments instead of 5? We must seem odd to British people, with our 5-mph speed limit increments (even if other Commonwealth countries, prior to metric conversion, also used increments of 5).

I believe TSRGD has for decades included a provision to the effect that the speed limit sign must show a value that is an integer multiple of 10 MPH, but I don't recall offhand how far back that goes.  The stylized fact is that all national speed limits have been integer multiples of 10 MPH since 1903.  The speed limit was 20 MPH everywhere until the Road Traffic Act 1930 brought in full derestriction, including in cities.  The Road Traffic Act 1934 brought in urban 30 limits that were (and still are) tied to provision of streetlighting.  70 limits were introduced on previously derestricted roads in 1965 (initially on an experimental basis), and dropped to 60 on single carriageways in 1977.  (The Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_speed_limits_in_the_United_Kingdom#History) has a reasonably good synopsis.)

There are some aspects of US practice for setting and signing speed limits that have traditionally been viewed unfavorably in the UK, where the culture emphasizes cultivating a high level of driving skill (with, e.g., rigid ideas about how to check for conflicting traffic and signal before changing lanes) and then setting the driver free to read the road with a minimum of micromanaging, as is consistent with policing by consent.  Advisory speeds are rarely signed on bends, for example--they are not considered to be robustly supported by research, so you are supposed to apply your skill as a driver to read the curve and determine a safe speed for your combination of vehicular handling characteristics and comfort level.  Meanwhile, signing of speed limits adheres rigidly to a zone model, and you are not supposed to be able to go so much as an inch in any direction while in doubt about the speed limit.  For example, if a zone boundary is right at a junction where making a turn changes the speed limit that applies to you in a way that requires signing (not all possible cases do), signs for both the old and new limits will typically be mounted on the same post right in the intersection throat, rather than (as in the US) one sign some way down one road and one sign some way down the other (if one sign or the other is not omitted altogether), an approach that is seen as leaving the driver in doubt (even if only for a few hundred yards) as to which limit applies and thus as opening the door to police harassment.  (Even the US practice of the police looking at people walking in rural areas as possible vagrants, or--these days--fair game for "welfare checks," tends to be seen in the UK as assaultive and threatening.)

Allowing only speed limits that are integer multiples of 10 MPH translates into a more restricted menu of options for setting custom limits, and that is consistent with the traditional approach of leaving the driver free to read the road.  Admittedly, in the past 25 years or so, there has been some convergence in approach between the US and the UK as the US has abandoned the NMSL while the UK has introduced large-scale use of automated enforcement, urban 20 zones, and speed zoning (40 or 50 limits) on single-carriageway rural roads whose design is not deemed sufficient to support sustained cruising at the NSL of 60.  But in Britain, none of this has translated into an appetite for speed limits graduated in increments of 5 MPH.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on October 03, 2020, 12:50:58 PM
Quote from: GenExpwy on October 03, 2020, 03:36:27 AMI think the NMSL effect could be via cars' speedometers. I think the feds put pressure on the car companies – maybe an actual regulation – to make the "55"  prominent, in the hope of increasing compliance. So for a couple decades, 15—25—35—45—55—65 speedometers were common.
Per Wikipedia, for what it's worth:

"On 1 September 1979 the NHTSA required speedometers to have special emphasis on 55 mph and display no more than a maximum speed of 85 mph. On 25 March 1982 the NHTSA revoked the rule because no "significant safety benefits" could come from maintaining the standard"

Regulation lasted slightly more than four years.  My last vehicle with an 85-MPH speedometer was a 1994 Ford Taurus, and the last with 55 highlighted was a 1997 Ford Explorer with a 110-MPH speedometer.

My current vehicle is a Dodge Charger with a 160-MPH dial.  How times have changed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 03, 2020, 12:54:55 PM
Here's a small blue guide sign promoting the B.G Peck Soccer Complex in Angleton, TX, using a unique symbol of a soccer ball I've never seen before on a road sign:

TX 288@ CR 44:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1775482,-95.4530485,3a,15y,27.68h,88.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVnm91nsNVl_tgT8QEqdGqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on October 06, 2020, 01:41:30 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/HLivPUPTVd1RU9go8
https://goo.gl/maps/BA2XQCbDNWB6BeVR8

These speed limit signs are posted in Trenton, TN.  So much for following the "multiples of 5" rule.  I guess Trenton takes it as a suggestion!  :-P

When I saw the 11.5 speed limit sign, it reminded me of seeing these in Trenton when I delivered there in 2004 for the expedited trucking company I worked for out of Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
near jersey city, nj (w of exit of holland tunnel)

not sure what the speed limit is.
https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA (https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 08, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
near jersey city, nj (w of exit of holland tunnel)

not sure what the speed limit is.
https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA (https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA)

The sign on the left is pretty unique! It looks like different neon words for different applicable situations. Almost like a poor man's VMS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 08, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
near jersey city, nj (w of exit of holland tunnel)

not sure what the speed limit is.
https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA (https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA)

The sign on the left is pretty unique! It looks like different neon words for different applicable situations. Almost like a poor man's VMS.

i lived in nj when i was a kid, and remember seeing these lit up.. like, vms before it was in style.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Old Dominionite on October 08, 2020, 09:48:39 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 08, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
near jersey city, nj (w of exit of holland tunnel)

not sure what the speed limit is.
https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA (https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA)

The sign on the left is pretty unique! It looks like different neon words for different applicable situations. Almost like a poor man's VMS.

i lived in nj when i was a kid, and remember seeing these lit up.. like, vms before it was in style.

Those old VMS signs used to be found all along the NJT. I thought they had all been taken down in recent years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 08, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 08, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
near jersey city, nj (w of exit of holland tunnel)

not sure what the speed limit is.
https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA (https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA)

The sign on the left is pretty unique! It looks like different neon words for different applicable situations. Almost like a poor man's VMS.

These were state of the art when first used. And they could all be controlled by their central operations department in a single building, which was probably the only agency in the country to do so at the time. The Turnpike did fall behind the times for a bit, but went all in with the latest generation VMS units, every 3 miles or so.

As for those old flip-style changeable speed limit signs, those things stopped working well in the 1990s. Near the end of their lives, you could go over 25 miles from Exit 1 to past Exit 3, and never encounter a working speed limit sign. The Turnpike never supplemented them with regular speed limit signs either, so if you weren't familiar with the speedblimit, you would have no idea what the true speed limit was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 08, 2020, 10:44:18 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 08, 2020, 08:50:36 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 08, 2020, 06:19:48 PM
near jersey city, nj (w of exit of holland tunnel)

not sure what the speed limit is.
https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA (https://goo.gl/maps/98cbypWZv2EJ8rBfA)

The sign on the left is pretty unique! It looks like different neon words for different applicable situations. Almost like a poor man's VMS.

Yes that was the norm growing up for me in NJ.  In fact the original 55 mph were neon with a back lit green with black letter SPEED LIMIT.  From Exits 1 to 4 it had a smaller Reduce Speed neon assembly though and reduced speeds were in white numbers to show the difference.  Before the National 55 law took place the standard speed limit was 60 mph and that used the red neon 60 until the 55 law was implemented.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on October 09, 2020, 04:53:40 PM
Found while traveling on Baker CR 125 approaching CR 127:
Turn right to get to FL FL-2 (https://goo.gl/maps/F2eHF2pYsZrwvxRU9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 09, 2020, 08:11:50 PM
A Pennsylvania town gives sound advice (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6260386,-75.3688533,3a,37.7y,33.38h,83.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBcdY2lLaXPaBEIpK0uDnAQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192/) on pulling out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on October 09, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
Fold up sign near Fort Chaffee (Barling, Arkansas)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3284/2938626233_206b623bc3_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 10, 2020, 08:27:37 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/dU4qG2sCMUXgdMJcA
The exit guide for WB Exit 13 along I-280 in Newark, NJ has a lot to be desired for. 

Also if you can't find it, look at the light post to the right.  Obviously it is not well seen by motorists either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ned Weasel on October 11, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2020, 08:27:37 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/dU4qG2sCMUXgdMJcA
The exit guide for WB Exit 13 along I-280 in Newark, NJ has a lot to be desired for. 

Also if you can't find it, look at the light post to the right.  Obviously it is not well seen by motorists either.

What happened, NJDOT?  I rave and rave about you and how great a job you do with road signs, and you disappoint me like this?

Conventional road-scaled guide signs on a friggin' Interstate freeway.  I've seen worse, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: stridentweasel on October 11, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 10, 2020, 08:27:37 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/dU4qG2sCMUXgdMJcA
The exit guide for WB Exit 13 along I-280 in Newark, NJ has a lot to be desired for. 

Also if you can't find it, look at the light post to the right.  Obviously it is not well seen by motorists either.

What happened, NJDOT?  I rave and rave about you and how great a job you do with road signs, and you disappoint me like this?

Conventional road-scaled guide signs on a friggin' Interstate freeway.  I've seen worse, though.
I would assert that your own KDOT does better than NJDOT with road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ned Weasel on October 11, 2020, 01:54:42 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
I would assert that your own KDOT does better than NJDOT with road signs.

NJDOT usually does a better job at signing arterial, non-freeway highways and at signing concurriencies than KDOT.  And NJDOT, from what I've seen, is better at using control cities than KDOT.  But both have their faults, sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
Not North American, but anyone want to take a stab at what the sign at 9:25 in this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV_XB-VbWoM&ab_channel=Ctripn/) video means?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 11, 2020, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
Not North American, but anyone want to take a stab at what the sign at 9:25 in this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV_XB-VbWoM&ab_channel=Ctripn/) video means?

What beautiful landscape!

The sign, maybe "monkeys ahead, please don't alarm them by blowing your horn"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on October 11, 2020, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: kkt on October 11, 2020, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
Not North American, but anyone want to take a stab at what the sign at 9:25 in this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV_XB-VbWoM&ab_channel=Ctripn/) video means?

What beautiful landscape!

The sign, maybe "monkeys ahead, please don't alarm them by blowing your horn"?

That was my thought as well. Some places do have primates that can do serious damage to your car if you upset them. And car horns can be pretty upsetting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 11, 2020, 06:00:38 PM
This BGS shouldn't be so massive...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0326773,-95.4433148,3a,15.1y,321.14h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxJY-f7YPgTSkvxQiv2CGpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

First off, no one ever refers to Oak Drive as Veterans Memorial Parkway, and second, West Way is a relatively small side street that I think shouldn't be signed. It could (and should) be half its current size.

P.S. It's a lot bigger in person than it looks here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on October 11, 2020, 08:04:46 PM
Here's one of the options Google Translate produced on the monkey sign:

(https://www.teresco.org/files/monkeywhistle.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 11, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 11, 2020, 06:00:38 PM
This BGS shouldn't be so massive...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0326773,-95.4433148,3a,15.1y,321.14h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxJY-f7YPgTSkvxQiv2CGpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

First off, no one ever refers to Oak Drive as Veterans Memorial Parkway, and second, West Way is a relatively small side street that I think shouldn't be signed. It could (and should) be half its current size.

P.S. It's a lot bigger in person than it looks here.
They should rename "West Way" to "That Way".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 11, 2020, 09:13:18 PM
I know the Chinese aren't afraid to blow their horns. Probably a good idea to install that sign. Honking on the freeway is very uncommon in North America and Europe (in regular free-flow traffic, apart from very specific scenarios), but I've heard honking everywhere is common in Asia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 11, 2020, 06:00:38 PM
This BGS shouldn't be so massive...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0326773,-95.4433148,3a,15.1y,321.14h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxJY-f7YPgTSkvxQiv2CGpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

First off, no one ever refers to Oak Drive as Veterans Memorial Parkway, and second, West Way is a relatively small side street that I think shouldn't be signed. It could (and should) be half its current size.

P.S. It's a lot bigger in person than it looks here.

I mean West Way could be reached from the next exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0429441,-95.4541586,3a,41.7y,5.39h,82.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNnKCvymVJlhevJuqhUqZRQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNnKCvymVJlhevJuqhUqZRQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D315.91296%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656/) if the driver were douchey enough to cut across three lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 12, 2020, 12:18:47 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 11, 2020, 06:00:38 PM
This BGS shouldn't be so massive...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0326773,-95.4433148,3a,15.1y,321.14h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxJY-f7YPgTSkvxQiv2CGpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

First off, no one ever refers to Oak Drive as Veterans Memorial Parkway, and second, West Way is a relatively small side street that I think shouldn't be signed. It could (and should) be half its current size.

P.S. It's a lot bigger in person than it looks here.

I mean West Way could be reached from the next exit (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0429441,-95.4541586,3a,41.7y,5.39h,82.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNnKCvymVJlhevJuqhUqZRQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DNnKCvymVJlhevJuqhUqZRQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D315.91296%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656/) if the driver were douchey enough to cut across three lanes.

Actually, they fixed that with pylons recently:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0430714,-95.4543634,3a,75y,67.33h,73.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCtv9YmkGpgLSpWVRoXRy-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Quote from: vdeane on October 11, 2020, 08:54:21 PM

They should rename "West Way" to "That Way".

The funny thing is, Lake Jackson already has a That Way (along with an Any Way). This Way meets That Way in downtown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 12, 2020, 01:14:25 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on October 11, 2020, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: kkt on October 11, 2020, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 11, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
Not North American, but anyone want to take a stab at what the sign at 9:25 in this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV_XB-VbWoM&ab_channel=Ctripn/) video means?

What beautiful landscape!

The sign, maybe "monkeys ahead, please don't alarm them by blowing your horn"?

That was my thought as well. Some places do have primates that can do serious damage to your car if you upset them. And car horns can be pretty upsetting.

I think pretty much every place on the planet has primates that can do serious damage to your car if you upset them...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 13, 2020, 11:31:33 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50475738471/in/dateposted-public/
This is totally wacky.  Both routes US 82 and GA State Road 520 head both ways, but the signs indicate only that West US 82 is to the left and GA 520 East is only to the right.

Also what is missing is a through GA 110 Shield here as GA 110 turns left here with both US 82 and Highway 520 West for a brief concurrency.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 12:35:03 PM
Wonky NJ clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9227409,-75.0878301,3a,15.2y,105.18h,93.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8EB9zZ6AccYgLJBYrBtAkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en/).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 14, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 12:35:03 PM
Wonky NJ clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9227409,-75.0878301,3a,15.2y,105.18h,93.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8EB9zZ6AccYgLJBYrBtAkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en/).

If you do a 180, I find those classic Wisconsin-esque signal cantilevers interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 14, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 12:35:03 PM
Wonky NJ clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9227409,-75.0878301,3a,15.2y,105.18h,93.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8EB9zZ6AccYgLJBYrBtAkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en/).

If you do a 180, I find those classic Wisconsin-esque signal cantilevers interesting.
They're common in some NJ cities (Union, Newark, Trenton), though most NJ signals are vertical and newer ones are either on trusses or masts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on October 14, 2020, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 14, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 12:35:03 PM
Wonky NJ clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9227409,-75.0878301,3a,15.2y,105.18h,93.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8EB9zZ6AccYgLJBYrBtAkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en/).

If you do a 180, I find those classic Wisconsin-esque signal cantilevers interesting.
They're common in some NJ cities (Union, Newark, Trenton), though most NJ signals are vertical and newer ones are either on trusses or masts.

Well, this is officially the closest this forum has come to my house, picture-wise. I go under than overpass all the time from Haddon Ave to get to my house; never thought much about that sign. Hi, guys!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 14, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
I always associate horizontal yellow signals on that type of mast arm with New Jersey thanks to War of the Worlds (which was partially filmed in NJ). When the tripod first rises from underneath the ground, you can see several in the background of the scene. They're all gone now (Ferry/Merchant/Wilson junction in Ironbound (https://goo.gl/maps/vttA6iRZpyEm4MLy6)), but it was something that stuck in my head.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 14, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
I always associate horizontal yellow signals on that type of mast arm with New Jersey thanks to War of the Worlds (which was partially filmed in NJ). When the tripod first rises from underneath the ground, you can see several in the background of the scene. They're all gone now (Ferry/Merchant/Wilson junction in Ironbound (https://goo.gl/maps/vttA6iRZpyEm4MLy6)), but it was something that stuck in my head.
2005 Peter Jackson War of the Worlds?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 14, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 14, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
I always associate horizontal yellow signals on that type of mast arm with New Jersey thanks to War of the Worlds (which was partially filmed in NJ). When the tripod first rises from underneath the ground, you can see several in the background of the scene. They're all gone now (Ferry/Merchant/Wilson junction in Ironbound (https://goo.gl/maps/vttA6iRZpyEm4MLy6)), but it was something that stuck in my head.
2005 Peter Jackson War of the Worlds?

Huh? No, Steven Spielberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2005_film)). Tom Cruise, Dakota Fanning.

Peter Jackson is a Kiwi mostly known for Lord of the Rings, et al.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 14, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 14, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
I always associate horizontal yellow signals on that type of mast arm with New Jersey thanks to War of the Worlds (which was partially filmed in NJ). When the tripod first rises from underneath the ground, you can see several in the background of the scene. They're all gone now (Ferry/Merchant/Wilson junction in Ironbound (https://goo.gl/maps/vttA6iRZpyEm4MLy6)), but it was something that stuck in my head.
2005 Peter Jackson War of the Worlds?

Huh? No, Steven Spielberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2005_film)). Tom Cruise, Dakota Fanning.

Peter Jackson is a Kiwi mostly known for Lord of the Rings, et al.
Oh yeah, I somehow got WOTW mixed up with Jackson's "King Kong" from the same year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 14, 2020, 11:53:43 PM
White CA 29 and CA 53 spades on CA 29 south:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50485082513_ab70fcc935_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jVcfa8)53CAa (https://flic.kr/p/2jVcfa8) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on October 15, 2020, 01:11:34 PM
Very rudimentary state line labeling.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0008111,-123.5352408,3a,73.7y,137.89h,70.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stIkAITfc9HLmz7WQHnDk2w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0008111,-123.5352408,3a,73.7y,137.89h,70.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stIkAITfc9HLmz7WQHnDk2w!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 15, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 14, 2020, 11:53:43 PM
White CA 29 and CA 53 spades on CA 29 south:

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I like it. It's unique. Perhaps it should be used more.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on October 15, 2020, 02:56:35 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 15, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 14, 2020, 11:53:43 PM
White CA 29 and CA 53 spades on CA 29 south:

<image snipped>

I like it. It's unique. Perhaps it should be used more.
Then it wouldn't be unique.   :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 15, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 15, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 14, 2020, 11:53:43 PM
White CA 29 and CA 53 spades on CA 29 south:

<image snipped>

I like it. It's unique. Perhaps it should be used more.

It's a throwback, really, so it was used more.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 15, 2020, 03:42:00 PM
Reminds me of this, along Castleton-Gateway Road east of Moab.

(https://cdn-assets.alltrails.com/uploads/photo/image/29067508/extra_large_df31b88ae9be9a5f7d3ad0710769e851.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 20, 2020, 01:58:04 PM
Just got back from a short trip to Springfield, MO (MSU commencement ceremony for my sister-in-law).

While I was there, I saw this annoyingly mommy-like sign (https://goo.gl/maps/m7reEiGCWxpuYwQe9).

And just a few blocks away was this wannabe dead end sign (https://goo.gl/maps/6DD43dRQEmMBvokD8) on the back of a stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 20, 2020, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 20, 2020, 01:58:04 PM
Just got back from a short trip to Springfield, MO (MSU commencement ceremony for my sister-in-law).

While I was there, I saw this annoyingly mommy-like sign (https://goo.gl/maps/m7reEiGCWxpuYwQe9).

And just a few blocks away was this wannabe dead end sign (https://goo.gl/maps/6DD43dRQEmMBvokD8) on the back of a stop sign.

I actually kind of like the Street Ends sign. It's not wrong. The street does end up ahead, and it is a warning. So, while it isn't standard, it actually works well.

That speed limit sign on the other hand is complete garbage. I know what it's trying to appeal to: when you're the lead car in a group, and you sometimes feel like you have to go faster because several cars are behind you, some possibly tailgating. It still doesn't make any sense. "Set the Pace"? Okay, I guess I'll set the pace to go 35 instead of 25.

:bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 20, 2020, 10:05:21 PM
The new intersection of By-pass US-17 and Bus US-17/NC-58 just north of Maysville, North Carolina now has an R3-127 (No Straight Thru) sign for northbound NC-58.  I had never seen one before, and it looks pretty weird.  I'm pretty sure that this was an R3-2 (No Left Turn) when it was first opened about a year ago.  I'm guessing that someone went "straight" through the intersection and ended up in the southbound lanes going the wrong direction.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=maysville+nc&t=hk&ia=web&iaxm=maps&iax=images (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=maysville+nc&t=hk&ia=web&iaxm=maps&iax=images)
Sorry, can't get Ducky to give me a URL that zooms in on the location.  The satellite image still shows the bypass under construction.  There's a bunch of funky porkchops here to prevent left turns and the new highway is a Superstreet equipped with J-turns.  Maybe Google has an up-to-date image.  (I gave up on Google in February when they started requiring agreements).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 20, 2020, 11:32:57 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 14, 2020, 01:28:41 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on October 14, 2020, 12:35:03 PM
Wonky NJ clearance sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9227409,-75.0878301,3a,15.2y,105.18h,93.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8EB9zZ6AccYgLJBYrBtAkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en/).
If you do a 180, I find those classic Wisconsin-esque signal cantilevers interesting.
The trombone arm is being phased out in Wisconsin, they are used as one of the legal mounts in New Jersey.  And then they are used in Albuquerque.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 25, 2020, 09:51:22 AM
Even For three digits on Georgia outlines this is stretching it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50526795041_1ec7304862_4k_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on October 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6017999,-81.1946328,3a,15y,70.46h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s32oM3y3LQiFz1EN68wXkfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The center sign has ONLY with both left and right. To make matters worse, the roadway was restriped to only permit left turns in the middle lane, meaning now the sign is also wrong, along with the signal, and has been that way for years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 25, 2020, 09:06:47 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6017999,-81.1946328,3a,15y,70.46h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s32oM3y3LQiFz1EN68wXkfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The center sign has ONLY with both left and right. To make matters worse, the roadway was restriped to only permit left turns in the middle lane, meaning now the sign is also wrong, along with the signal, and has been that way for years.

March 2020 GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/4NksbFWmVFejHHx97) shows a double arrow in the center lane.

In that case, I would assume the sign would override the pavement markings, since the sign is the last thing you'd see.

The use of "ONLY" with multiple arrows reminds me of this old setup in Seattle (https://goo.gl/maps/TsuEtNniZCTCi8jg9). One way street with two through lanes. Both lanes have a double arrow showing either 'left/straight' or 'straight/right', but with ONLY markings below each of them. Everything is redundant, since (A) those are the normal movements at every intersection for that kind of setup, and (B) "ONLY" should be used exclusively with lanes that go "ONLY" one direction. It was painted like this for over ten years, despite all the other changes around it. If I recall correctly, it was only recently removed as part of the street improvements for the Key Arena renovations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 25, 2020, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 25, 2020, 09:51:22 AM
Even For three digits on Georgia outlines this is stretching it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50526795041_1ec7304862_4k_d.jpg)

Looks like we found a couple companions for this lovely specimen:

Quote from: radDFW on October 23, 2020, 11:43:06 PM
Off topic kind of, but what happened to this US shield lol? Is this some Penn DOT thing??? This is on the same freeway that has the redesign target.
(https://imgur.com/CHe9CuO.png)
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0893615,-80.1184731,3a,15y,337.01h,97.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJiNzbgrA-h1TD3gcXk3TSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EpicRoadways on October 25, 2020, 10:47:59 PM
Not the worst thing I've ever seen, but this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4901784,-92.2923071,3a,15y,38.88h,87.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC10yEJSrZe6iM5Q7toEr2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)sign that I stumbled across on the MN/WI border is pretty bad. I'm assuming it's a township install.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 26, 2020, 10:24:19 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6017999,-81.1946328,3a,15y,70.46h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s32oM3y3LQiFz1EN68wXkfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The center sign has ONLY with both left and right.

It appears going straight is prohibited, as that's a RIRO with a porkchop (https://goo.gl/maps/qrWuw1seHintt6od6).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 26, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 26, 2020, 10:24:19 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6017999,-81.1946328,3a,15y,70.46h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s32oM3y3LQiFz1EN68wXkfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The center sign has ONLY with both left and right.

It appears going straight is prohibited, as that's a RIRO with a porkchop (https://goo.gl/maps/qrWuw1seHintt6od6).

Generally speaking, "ONLY" is used only on panels where only one direction of movement is permitted. The left/right arrow is enough to indicate that through traffic is not permitted. Since two directions are allowed from that lane (I pointed this out a couple posts above, in the GSV link for March 2020), it would not be appropriate to use "ONLY" as you can go more than one direction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on October 28, 2020, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 26, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 26, 2020, 10:24:19 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6017999,-81.1946328,3a,15y,70.46h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s32oM3y3LQiFz1EN68wXkfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The center sign has ONLY with both left and right.

It appears going straight is prohibited, as that's a RIRO with a porkchop (https://goo.gl/maps/qrWuw1seHintt6od6).

Generally speaking, "ONLY" is used only on panels where only one direction of movement is permitted. The left/right arrow is enough to indicate that through traffic is not permitted. Since two directions are allowed from that lane (I pointed this out a couple posts above, in the GSV link for March 2020), it would not be appropriate to use "ONLY" as you can go more than one direction.

I think generally "ONLY" in this context refers to only one direction is permitted.  California will use "OK" when there are at least two permitted movements.

This sign in Oakland shows this.  It is also interesting in that it is mounted on a signal mast arm that doesn't contain a signal and that even though it is overhead, the lane directions are not over the referred lanes.  [IMO only the directions for the two right lanes are required here.]

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7976579,-122.2694231,3a,30y,140.98h,92.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBgJUfz6-h2aeYHg82K6NIA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 28, 2020, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 28, 2020, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 26, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 26, 2020, 10:24:19 AM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 25, 2020, 08:38:43 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6017999,-81.1946328,3a,15y,70.46h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s32oM3y3LQiFz1EN68wXkfw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The center sign has ONLY with both left and right.

It appears going straight is prohibited, as that's a RIRO with a porkchop (https://goo.gl/maps/qrWuw1seHintt6od6).

Generally speaking, "ONLY" is used only on panels where only one direction of movement is permitted. The left/right arrow is enough to indicate that through traffic is not permitted. Since two directions are allowed from that lane (I pointed this out a couple posts above, in the GSV link for March 2020), it would not be appropriate to use "ONLY" as you can go more than one direction.

I think generally "ONLY" in this context refers to only one direction is permitted.  California will use "OK" when there are at least two permitted movements.

This sign in Oakland shows this.  It is also interesting in that it is mounted on a signal mast arm that doesn't contain a signal and that even though it is overhead, the lane directions are not over the referred lanes.  [IMO only the directions for the two right lanes are required here.]

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7976579,-122.2694231,3a,30y,140.98h,92.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBgJUfz6-h2aeYHg82K6NIA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Correct, yes, "ONLY" is used when only one direction is permitted. It is incorrect to use it on signs with more than one permitted movement.

The usage of "OK" on advanced intersection lane control signs (R3-8) is an option that is sometimes ticked. WSDOT has occasionally used "OK" on guide signs (https://goo.gl/maps/Rt8QrXMqqkwVeegb6).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 30, 2020, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 28, 2020, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: mrsman on October 28, 2020, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 26, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
Generally speaking, "ONLY" is used only on panels where only one direction of movement is permitted. The left/right arrow is enough to indicate that through traffic is not permitted. Since two directions are allowed from that lane (I pointed this out a couple posts above, in the GSV link for March 2020), it would not be appropriate to use "ONLY" as you can go more than one direction.

I think generally "ONLY" in this context refers to only one direction is permitted.  California will use "OK" when there are at least two permitted movements.

This sign in Oakland shows this.  It is also interesting in that it is mounted on a signal mast arm that doesn't contain a signal and that even though it is overhead, the lane directions are not over the referred lanes.  [IMO only the directions for the two right lanes are required here.]

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7976579,-122.2694231,3a,30y,140.98h,92.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBgJUfz6-h2aeYHg82K6NIA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Correct, yes, "ONLY" is used when only one direction is permitted. It is incorrect to use it on signs with more than one permitted movement.

The usage of "OK" on advanced intersection lane control signs (R3-8) is an option that is sometimes ticked. WSDOT has occasionally used "OK" on guide signs (https://goo.gl/maps/Rt8QrXMqqkwVeegb6).

I remember frequently seeing the "OK" on lane assignment signs in the Vegas area when I was younger (like 20-30 years ago), but I haven't this on a new installation in Nevada in a long time...

I actually like that use of "OK" on the guide sign. Back when the 2009 MUTCD came out and prohibited the use of down arrows for signing option lanes at intermediate exits (the "non-Lunenfeld & Alexander" approach NDOT uses, as J N Winkler has termed it), I thought putting an "OK" next to a down arrow in this scheme might have been a good compromise to keep the existing signing scheme. (Turns out, changing the option exit design seems to be the one thing in the 2009 MUTCD that NDOT has balked at, cause there haven't been any major changes to how they sign intermediate option lanes in the last 11 years.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 31, 2020, 09:24:17 AM
The only time I've ever seen "OK" on a sign is on regulatory signs for HOV lanes in Maryland. In addition to stating the rule for regular passenger vehicles, they usually have a small auxiliary sign that says "Motorcycles OK."

Never seen it used to sign an option lane, though. I have seen Maryland use just the word "Only" in what would normally be an "Exit Only" reference when there are two exit lanes and one of them is optional. They seem to be getting away from that, though, because newer signs seem to stack the words "Exit Only."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 31, 2020, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...

Lmao I always find those funny... states that absolutely have to sign bridge clearances no matter what
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on October 31, 2020, 01:25:00 PM
Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.4702212,-95.4596788,3a,29.9y,114.39h,90.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKnAjcMNxgIOSTxHsb1d9ew!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) a sign on I-20 in Texas (near Tyler) with the control city in all caps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: plain on October 31, 2020, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...

Lmao I always find those funny... states that absolutely have to sign bridge clearances no matter what
Usually OK stops at ≈20Ft, but sometimes they go a bit beyond reasonable... I can just imagine the High Five in Tx with a 120Ft 0 in sign, lol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 31, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...

I shared this clearance sign in another thread: 23ft, 9in:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.124172,-95.4304301,3a,15y,4.51h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO0MCnHjnhTkVrKbYZ1tLEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Highest I've seen in Texas. (also note the county pentagons!)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on November 01, 2020, 12:12:17 AM
44 feet!  Sure, it's for boats, but I rarely see yellow diamond signs used for marine clearances.  Taken of old 520 bridge from new 520 bridge, Seattle.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50553441046_bab5f612b1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k2eALw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 01, 2020, 01:20:53 AM
Would someone on a boat that big be able to see a sign that size with enough time to not hit it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on November 01, 2020, 01:51:48 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 31, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...

I shared this clearance sign in another thread: 23ft, 9in:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.124172,-95.4304301,3a,15y,4.51h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO0MCnHjnhTkVrKbYZ1tLEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Highest I've seen in Texas. (also note the county pentagons!)

Haha, mine is still taller!
At least Oklahoma can beat another state at SOMETHING to do with signage!

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 01, 2020, 01:20:53 AM
Would someone on a boat that big be able to see a sign that size with enough time to not hit it?
From my experience, boats tend to slow down near bridges. If a boat over 44 ft tall is going too fast to read it, you may have underestimated the, ahem, gravity of the situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on November 01, 2020, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 31, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...

I shared this clearance sign in another thread: 23ft, 9in:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.124172,-95.4304301,3a,15y,4.51h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO0MCnHjnhTkVrKbYZ1tLEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Highest I've seen in Texas. (also note the county pentagons!)

The highest I've seen is 30 feet.  It's on what appears to be a conveyor belt at an industrial facility.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2457225,-97.5503542,3a,75y,241.9h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6Bf4MSNyST3c8CjL5mS_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2457225,-97.5503542,3a,75y,241.9h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6Bf4MSNyST3c8CjL5mS_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 02, 2020, 02:45:15 AM
Quote from: wxfree on November 01, 2020, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 31, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on October 31, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
This clearance sign (https://goo.gl/maps/nFMpKWEQQUfewENq6) in a bridge outside Tulsa warns of a 25Ft 7in hight restriction...

I shared this clearance sign in another thread: 23ft, 9in:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.124172,-95.4304301,3a,15y,4.51h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO0MCnHjnhTkVrKbYZ1tLEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Highest I've seen in Texas. (also note the county pentagons!)

The highest I've seen is 30 feet.  It's on what appears to be a conveyor belt at an industrial facility.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2457225,-97.5503542,3a,75y,241.9h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6Bf4MSNyST3c8CjL5mS_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2457225,-97.5503542,3a,75y,241.9h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sE6Bf4MSNyST3c8CjL5mS_Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Most likely posted by the owner of the conveyor; that sign's font is Tahoma (one of the Windows default fonts).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 02, 2020, 10:33:27 AM
While I mentioned the reconstruction of Beach Road at Lake George Battlefield State Park and the "Million Dollar Beach" in Lake George, New York, I noticed this non-MUTCD compliant "Do Not Enter" sign at the exit from the Million Dollar Beach:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4175878,-73.7050127,3a,75y,67.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNajWdJaoclNYgXvsjSQ0Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4175878,-73.7050127,3a,75y,67.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNajWdJaoclNYgXvsjSQ0Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 02, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 02, 2020, 10:33:27 AM
While I mentioned the reconstruction of Beach Road at Lake George Battlefield State Park and the "Million Dollar Beach" in Lake George, New York, I noticed this non-MUTCD compliant "Do Not Enter" sign at the exit from the Million Dollar Beach:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4175878,-73.7050127,3a,75y,67.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNajWdJaoclNYgXvsjSQ0Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4175878,-73.7050127,3a,75y,67.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNajWdJaoclNYgXvsjSQ0Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

I'm sure I've posted this before: https://goo.gl/maps/H8eHrvDUd5nkc4L26
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on November 02, 2020, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 02, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 02, 2020, 10:33:27 AM
While I mentioned the reconstruction of Beach Road at Lake George Battlefield State Park and the "Million Dollar Beach" in Lake George, New York, I noticed this non-MUTCD compliant "Do Not Enter" sign at the exit from the Million Dollar Beach:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4175878,-73.7050127,3a,75y,67.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNajWdJaoclNYgXvsjSQ0Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4175878,-73.7050127,3a,75y,67.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNajWdJaoclNYgXvsjSQ0Sg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

I'm sure I've posted this before: https://goo.gl/maps/H8eHrvDUd5nkc4L26

The first sign is reasonable (ish, a DO NOT ENTER sign would work just as well(and probably be cheaper, lol)) in design, even if redundant in placement, but that second one... WHAT ON EARTH?!?! What were they thinking!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 03, 2020, 09:44:13 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50562263747/in/dateposted-public/
This is not only redundant with the use of the prefix "I", but is got a really weird arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
Interesting "no peds" sign at a new traffic light in Midland TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9944602,-102.170409,3a,26.9y,235.74h,89.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJQHue9zp38CuoK1WTCXEGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on November 03, 2020, 01:05:40 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
Interesting "no peds" sign at a new traffic light in Midland TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9944602,-102.170409,3a,26.9y,235.74h,89.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJQHue9zp38CuoK1WTCXEGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Wow, they almost look Nordic with that amber color.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Sweden_road_sign_C15.svg/100px-Sweden_road_sign_C15.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 03, 2020, 01:33:24 PM
Quote from: riiga on November 03, 2020, 01:05:40 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
Interesting "no peds" sign at a new traffic light in Midland TX: https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9944602,-102.170409,3a,26.9y,235.74h,89.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJQHue9zp38CuoK1WTCXEGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


Wow, they almost look Nordic with that amber color.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Sweden_road_sign_C15.svg/100px-Sweden_road_sign_C15.svg.png)
I think I remember seeing footage of those in the Balkans too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on November 03, 2020, 02:34:12 PM
Yeah, Yugoslavia used yellow too IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on November 04, 2020, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is a standard sign, W10-11b. But it is a weird number, surprised they wouldn't round down to 40.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 05, 2020, 12:43:32 AM
The US 431 shield is odd to say the least.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50568828672/in/dateposted-public/)https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50568828672/in/dateposted-public/

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50568828672_75697ea0b6_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 05, 2020, 03:57:45 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on November 04, 2020, 08:13:42 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is a standard sign, W10-11b. But it is a weird number, surprised they wouldn't round down to 40.

Good catch!  For those of you too lazy to look it up in the MUTCD (not judging):

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig8b_04.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 05, 2020, 04:19:00 PM
I've actually tried to recommend W10-15P to a certain road in Brooksville, FL in the past.
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5454019,-82.3861943,3a,75y,92.87h,81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slP8bjOVY_7O-4wm6vZHfCA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on November 06, 2020, 02:43:19 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 05, 2020, 03:57:45 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on November 04, 2020, 08:13:42 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is a standard sign, W10-11b. But it is a weird number, surprised they wouldn't round down to 40.

Good catch!  For those of you too lazy to look it up in the MUTCD (not judging):

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig8b_04.gif)

Aren't the W10-3 and W10-11 the same sign? Surprised it has a different designation, but I guess some people might be unaware that you can rotate the same sign...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 06, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
Not only is it odd for an interstate to be in text form, but the letter I is a weird font.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50572736012_851dad2151_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on November 06, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 06, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
Not only is it odd for an interstate to be in text form, but the letter I is a weird font.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50572736012_851dad2151_4k.jpg)
That's the standard Georgia font I think. I kinda like it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on November 06, 2020, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 06, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 06, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
Not only is it odd for an interstate to be in text form, but the letter I is a weird font.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50572736012_851dad2151_4k.jpg)
That's the standard Georgia font I think. I kinda like it.
Is no one going to mention that atrocious I-516 shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on November 06, 2020, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on November 06, 2020, 10:12:42 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 06, 2020, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 06, 2020, 09:32:57 AM
Not only is it odd for an interstate to be in text form, but the letter I is a weird font.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50572736012_851dad2151_4k.jpg)
That's the standard Georgia font I think. I kinda like it.
Is no one going to mention that atrocious I-516 shield?
Well, okay, I like the BGS on the right (although the yellow exit only tab is a bit faded. The sign on the left is a cluster
To I-16
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 06, 2020, 12:44:18 PM
Regarding the GA sign: The serifs were added to the "I" so it didn't just look like a 1. It's the same thing agencies sometimes do up here in Wisconsin for any "County Highway I". (https://goo.gl/maps/fQYcGRZm1S8R9dck9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 06, 2020, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on November 06, 2020, 02:43:19 AM

Quote from: kphoger on November 05, 2020, 03:57:45 PM

Quote from: CardInLex on November 04, 2020, 08:13:42 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is a standard sign, W10-11b. But it is a weird number, surprised they wouldn't round down to 40.

Good catch!  For those of you too lazy to look it up in the MUTCD (not judging):

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig8b_04.gif)

Aren't the W10-3 and W10-11 the same sign? Surprised it has a different designation, but I guess some people might be unaware that you can rotate the same sign...

Well, that's probably better than one guidance statement in the MUTCD covering two different applications.  I could just see some crew installing one in the wrong orientation because that's what was shown in the book.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CtrlAltDel on November 06, 2020, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: CardInLex on November 04, 2020, 08:13:42 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is a standard sign, W10-11b. But it is a weird number, surprised they wouldn’t round down to 40.

If I had to guess, I'd say it has something to do with semi truck lengths, and a need to be somewhat precise in that regard in case a truck has to move up due to an approaching train. Even then, though, 3 feet is still a small amount in that regard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 06, 2020, 03:06:53 PM
If you're going to put some number there, why not put the most accurate one that you can?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 08, 2020, 12:24:21 PM
Posted detour route in Kalamazoo MI for when a stopped train blocks some streets.

(https://i.imgur.com/0JsWYNS.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on November 08, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
That's an interesting situation to have, why don't they just move the trains to unblock the road?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 08, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
Railroads have weird rights written into federal law. Basically, if they want to block a crossing they can, and usually don't really care whether that inconveniences anyone else or not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 08, 2020, 10:09:40 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on November 08, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
That's an interesting situation to have, why don't they just move the trains to unblock the road?

The Amtrak station in downtown Kalamazoo is between two city blocks, so the Amtrak Wolverine and Blue Water trains block a number of north-south streets eight times a day when they stop.  I don't know what other trains might move through there that block east-west streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 09, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 09, 2020, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on November 08, 2020, 01:53:54 PM
That's an interesting situation to have, why don't they just move the trains to unblock the road?

They do.  Eventually.  But, in between now and then...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 09, 2020, 02:56:41 PM
Spelled out "JUNCTION" is still the standard for signs on a green background. However, the MUTCD specifies these are only supposed to be used when junctioning multiple routes.

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/images/fig2d_04.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 09, 2020, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 09, 2020, 02:56:41 PM
Spelled out "JUNCTION" is still the standard for signs on a green background. However, the MUTCD specifies these are only supposed to be used when junctioning multiple routes.

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/images/fig2d_04.gif)

I still want to know why it's BY-PASS and not BYPASS.

Virginia sometimes uses the larger first letter in its "To" banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 10, 2020, 12:33:01 AM
Probably because that it was more commonly spelled with a hyphen when the first MUTCD was written, usage shifted to drop the hyphen as the word became more common, and the sign was never redrawn to remove the hyphen. May be a suggestion to write in to the next MUTCD, since it would probably mean a wider typeface could be used there, enhancing readability.

I also wonder why there's not a M4-2a BYP banner; seems just as clear as ALT or TEMP. Also, why is the JCT plate's dimensions different than the rest of the banners? (Oklahoma normally uses a plate with the same dimensions as the others.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 10, 2020, 11:12:14 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2020, 12:33:01 AM
Probably because that it was more commonly spelled with a hyphen when the first MUTCD was written, usage shifted to drop the hyphen as the word became more common, and the sign was never redrawn to remove the hyphen. May be a suggestion to write in to the next MUTCD, since it would probably mean a wider typeface could be used there, enhancing readability.

I also wonder why there's not a M4-2a BYP banner; seems just as clear as ALT or TEMP. Also, why is the JCT plate's dimensions different than the rest of the banners? (Oklahoma normally uses a plate with the same dimensions as the others.)

Ohio also uses a banner of similar size to directional banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on November 16, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
? (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2610865,-87.6207322,3a,15y,110.36h,88.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sooOZJXoXEIIhToag28RsDA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on November 16, 2020, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on November 16, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
? (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2610865,-87.6207322,3a,15y,110.36h,88.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sooOZJXoXEIIhToag28RsDA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Yeah...the dumbest symbol sign they could have ever dreamed up for "Tourist Information (Center). I saw one somewhere one day with an arrow under it. I said to myself, "Hey, if you don't know what's in that direction, I can't help you."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 16, 2020, 05:32:26 PM
^^ That has been changed to INFO in MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on November 17, 2020, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: plain on November 09, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.
Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on November 17, 2020, 06:16:17 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on November 16, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
? (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2610865,-87.6207322,3a,15y,110.36h,88.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sooOZJXoXEIIhToag28RsDA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

reminds me of this one i saw the other day

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0064451,-78.9213576,3a,49.1y,153.36h,87.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqVAyO7h9ir7H7fqg0wxWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on November 17, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on November 17, 2020, 06:16:17 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on November 16, 2020, 01:57:40 PM
? (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.2610865,-87.6207322,3a,15y,110.36h,88.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sooOZJXoXEIIhToag28RsDA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

reminds me of this one i saw the other day

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0064451,-78.9213576,3a,49.1y,153.36h,87.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqVAyO7h9ir7H7fqg0wxWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

That is terrible placement. To the average motorist that looks like the speed limit is maybe 35mph ahead?

For this reason, in Pennsylvania, no other signage is allowed to be on a speed limit or stop sign posts anymore, to avoid confusion. This even includes small SR segment markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ben114 on November 21, 2020, 01:03:03 PM
I've never seen it as "RTE #" outside of a VMS.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50629707642_e56a0b4c92_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 21, 2020, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on November 21, 2020, 01:03:03 PM
I've never seen it as "RTE #" outside of a VMS.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50629707642_e56a0b4c92_z.jpg)

Virginia labels its secondaries as "Rte. XXX" along with the road name at overpasses and underpasses on interstate highways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 23, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on November 17, 2020, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: plain on November 09, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.
Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201123/b4dba9e6f6281ec3102103680dc30197.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on November 23, 2020, 09:37:32 PM
Check out this colorful US route shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3150819,-75.6247146,3a,36.2y,291.96h,88.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sasGXJQmOxGD_u4ZOopJzyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en/) near Salisbury, MD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 24, 2020, 09:30:46 AM
Quote from: STLmapboy on November 23, 2020, 09:37:32 PM
Check out this colorful US route shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3150819,-75.6247146,3a,36.2y,291.96h,88.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sasGXJQmOxGD_u4ZOopJzyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en/) near Salisbury, MD.

MD has a funny way of signing their business routes... and I like it lmao.

Also, I just realized in my previous post on this thread I said VA 10 NB when I should've said WB.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on November 24, 2020, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: plain on November 23, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on November 17, 2020, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: plain on November 09, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.
Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201123/b4dba9e6f6281ec3102103680dc30197.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)



VDOT also posts JCT banners for secondary routes at times, such as for Chesterfield County SR 653 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4430905,-77.5824143,3a,75y,83.32h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQwu3K_vVvUQXLcp9NqLJIQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) on US 360.

Oddly, the Richmond District sometimes uses them for relatively minor routes, such as Chesterfield County SR 743 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4184549,-77.5715062,3a,75y,153.16h,89.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4pDj-MkiSwVSk7itvcAGUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 24, 2020, 07:56:33 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 24, 2020, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: plain on November 23, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on November 17, 2020, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: plain on November 09, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.
Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201123/b4dba9e6f6281ec3102103680dc30197.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)



VDOT also posts JCT banners for secondary routes at times, such as for Chesterfield County SR 653 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4430905,-77.5824143,3a,75y,83.32h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQwu3K_vVvUQXLcp9NqLJIQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) on US 360.

Oddly, the Richmond District sometimes uses them for relatively minor routes, such as Chesterfield County SR 743 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4184549,-77.5715062,3a,75y,153.16h,89.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4pDj-MkiSwVSk7itvcAGUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) here.

Wow.. I've never noticed those before. It's crazy that they'll do it for secondary routes at a regular intersection but not primary
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 30, 2020, 10:26:11 AM
I was screwing around with Street View and I found a sign showing a snowmobile lane....as you approach a US border crossing from Quebec. I've seen plenty of snowmobile crossing signs, but never one in this context. I found myself wondering how many people actually use snowmobiles to cross the border there.

https://goo.gl/maps/xcGCf72xd7RFGfrD8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on November 30, 2020, 12:09:24 PM
Here's a diagrammatic sign (if you can classify it as that) on a surface street

(https://i.imgur.com/5MjwMtM.png)
(https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0852203,-118.4221698,3a,17.2y,341.18h,105.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAYT7gEGmIMeCoORmxB_Jlw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on December 01, 2020, 01:47:04 AM
Quote from: plain on November 24, 2020, 07:56:33 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on November 24, 2020, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: plain on November 23, 2020, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on November 17, 2020, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: plain on November 09, 2020, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 08, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
Quote from: plain on November 08, 2020, 08:42:59 PM
I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201109/3b80d7f86626a8420c25abd60dfffa8d.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.
Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201123/b4dba9e6f6281ec3102103680dc30197.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)



VDOT also posts JCT banners for secondary routes at times, such as for Chesterfield County SR 653 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4430905,-77.5824143,3a,75y,83.32h,89.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQwu3K_vVvUQXLcp9NqLJIQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) on US 360.

Oddly, the Richmond District sometimes uses them for relatively minor routes, such as Chesterfield County SR 743 (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4184549,-77.5715062,3a,75y,153.16h,89.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4pDj-MkiSwVSk7itvcAGUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) here.

Wow.. I've never noticed those before. It's crazy that they'll do it for secondary routes at a regular intersection but not primary
Correct me if I am wrong, but after reading these few posts about seeing JCT (secondary highway) I seem to recall back in the 1970's and 1980's, mostly along US 17 from the Churchland area to the James River Bridge (not the only places in Virginia I noticed this, but a section of highway fairly close to where I used to live), that there were JUNCTION signs (yes, fully spelled out) posted before every secondary route along the way.  I am not sure if and when some VDOT Districts may have stopped this practice or started to use the abbreviated JCT signs in place of these "classic" postings.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 01, 2020, 06:49:09 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on December 01, 2020, 01:47:04 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but after reading these few posts about seeing JCT (secondary highway) I seem to recall back in the 1970's and 1980's, mostly along US 17 from the Churchland area to the James River Bridge (not the only places in Virginia I noticed this, but a section of highway fairly close to where I used to live), that there were JUNCTION signs (yes, fully spelled out) posted before every secondary route along the way.  I am not sure if and when some VDOT Districts may have stopped this practice or started to use the abbreviated JCT signs in place of these "classic" postings.

Yes, "JUNCTION" was in use statewide at one point.

When I lived in the Tidewater area in 1991-93 there were still a couple of these floating around - Diamond Springs Rd approaching US 60 had one, there was a SR 615 JUNCTION sign on US 58 Bus in Virginia Beach and Atlantic Ave SB at US 58 had one.

Here is one that was still up last time I checked on it (a few years back now).  This photo is from 2006 and is on SR 601 in Gloucester County.  This posting may go back to when this was still part of VA 198:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Foldsigns%2F610whitesign.jpg&hash=3e46bada719a1f332c8d29e2eb8288668cb877b4)

This set made it to the early 2010s before being replaced.  Photo by Froggie, 2007:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fcutouts%2Fimages%2Fus011-460_03.jpg&hash=8494ba82b4a95219c16f2a7253e122474f1cf7a0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 01, 2020, 10:33:37 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50645202811/in/photostream/

Looks like Columbia is only 6 miles on this sign, but the number "1"  to make it "16"  is now faded.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on December 01, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
Special evacuation signs for a specific dam with segregation between modes in Carnation/Tolt, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/OTpDnoi.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on December 01, 2020, 10:28:50 PM
Shouldn't that pedestrian sign indicate running, not walking, if the dam fails?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 02, 2020, 07:20:52 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on December 01, 2020, 10:28:50 PM
Shouldn't that pedestrian sign indicate running, not walking, if the dam fails?

Also shouldn't be walking backwards as the diagram illustrates...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2020, 07:39:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 01, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
Special evacuation signs for a specific dam with segregation between modes in Carnation/Tolt, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/OTpDnoi.jpg)

And the vehicle almost appears as if it started out like a regular sedan, but they custom made the back-end to try for a SUV/Station Wagon look.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 02, 2020, 10:58:50 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on December 01, 2020, 10:28:50 PM
Shouldn't that pedestrian sign indicate running, not walking, if the dam fails?

Speed-walking.

Quote from: Mapmikey on December 02, 2020, 07:20:52 AM
Also shouldn't be walking backwards as the diagram illustrates...

Moon-walking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on December 02, 2020, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2020, 07:39:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 01, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
Special evacuation signs for a specific dam with segregation between modes in Carnation/Tolt, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/OTpDnoi.jpg)

And the vehicle almost appears as if it started out like a regular sedan, but they custom made the back-end to try for a SUV/Station Wagon look.

Also the pedestrian symbol looks somewhat vertically compressed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 03, 2020, 05:07:04 PM
This is one tiny sign...

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3751006,-87.1172499,3a,15y,83.84h,85.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPpImM0RK_RK5SfhO_XA8FA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 03, 2020, 05:07:04 PM
This is one tiny sign...

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3751006,-87.1172499,3a,15y,83.84h,85.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPpImM0RK_RK5SfhO_XA8FA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It's for the multi-use path.  All (https://goo.gl/maps/Ro14nukutWPF2rz76) the (https://goo.gl/maps/XcqDD7bucrwdeDFX7) signs (https://goo.gl/maps/JfuwBApjkPxsfvQa8) on it are similarly small, as is usual for such.  For example, here (https://goo.gl/maps/smJBVvRfbyXP9Qpk7) is a similarly sized one near me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 04, 2020, 10:24:00 PM
Yuck. This font does not belong on road signs...
SH 35 in Houston @ Bellfort (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6745588,-95.2893375,3a,15y,222.91h,90.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKKQEBZSd3qt2WwRNLJF5fA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DKKQEBZSd3qt2WwRNLJF5fA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D42.868988%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
35 has several signs with this nasty font in the area.

Also, a couple miles away in Pearland, there is a rash of these weird SH 35 shields...
SH 35 in Pearland (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5639487,-95.2860312,3a,15y,35.01h,90.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swqI90mli4-BaEQr1P0Wbwg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 05, 2020, 10:09:03 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 02, 2020, 07:39:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 01, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
Special evacuation signs for a specific dam with segregation between modes in Carnation/Tolt, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/OTpDnoi.jpg)

And the vehicle almost appears as if it started out like a regular sedan, but they custom made the back-end to try for a SUV/Station Wagon look.
Actually, it started out as a pickup, but was custom made as an SUV. It's the original Nissan Pathfinder.

As for pedestrians, I seriously wonder what makes anyone think they have a chance.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on December 06, 2020, 02:26:40 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 03, 2020, 05:23:48 PM

It's for the multi-use path.  All (https://goo.gl/maps/Ro14nukutWPF2rz76) the (https://goo.gl/maps/XcqDD7bucrwdeDFX7) signs (https://goo.gl/maps/JfuwBApjkPxsfvQa8) on it are similarly small, as is usual for such.  For example, here (https://goo.gl/maps/smJBVvRfbyXP9Qpk7) is a similarly sized one near me.

I've been holding off on posting this since there's no great Street View of it, but this made me think of it. The bike sign size is for signs ON bike paths, not signs ABOUT bike paths! (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0609906,-123.0542156,3a,17.2y,71.68h,88.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLV5RR5n1qF0FvoQ6kBsljw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) (That's a tiny bike warning sign next to the normal-size curve warning sign.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on December 06, 2020, 05:02:38 AM
Want a tiny trail sign? Some snowmobile trails around here have ones like this (blurred) STOP sign (https://goo.gl/maps/K4ViNMdutVyFs5fB7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 06, 2020, 09:38:36 AM
Not an unusual sign, but an unusual location:  This is where the I-275 Metro Bike Trail junctions with the Lower Rouge River Trail in Canton, MI.

(https://i.imgur.com/SWGY6fe.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on December 06, 2020, 11:53:26 PM
^^ is it just me, or is that US 12 sign brand spanking' new?? Looks clean like it just came out of the factory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 07, 2020, 06:58:09 PM
Quote from: J3ebrules on December 06, 2020, 11:53:26 PM
^^ is it just me, or is that US 12 sign brand spanking' new?? Looks clean like it just came out of the factory.
Yes, it looks amazingly clean. Aside from the condition of the sign, the bike trail looks like it could serve dual use as a snowmobile trail.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jemacedo9 on December 07, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Two for the price of one (Abbotts Mill, DE):
https://goo.gl/maps/NpLHfZCerP3Q5eJf8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 08, 2020, 06:20:20 AM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on December 07, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Two for the price of one (Abbotts Mill, DE):
https://goo.gl/maps/NpLHfZCerP3Q5eJf8

If anything else I'd say at least they're creative. I'm not mad at it but the feds might be if they notice it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 08, 2020, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on December 07, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Two for the price of one (Abbotts Mill, DE):
https://goo.gl/maps/NpLHfZCerP3Q5eJf8
I especially think the and is funny. They probably could've omitted it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 09, 2020, 03:56:38 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 08, 2020, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on December 07, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Two for the price of one (Abbotts Mill, DE):
https://goo.gl/maps/NpLHfZCerP3Q5eJf8
I especially think the and is funny. They probably could've omitted it.

If there was ever a time for one of those Texas goalpost sign mounts...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 09, 2020, 12:26:26 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

Maryland does this often.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 09, 2020, 12:56:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 09, 2020, 12:26:26 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

Maryland does this often.

If I recall correctly, Maryland has this "thing" with horizontal lines.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 09, 2020, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

I like!   :love:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 09, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

This type of thing is very common on Utah mileage signs put up more than ~20 years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 09, 2020, 04:49:52 PM
I think it's also MoDOT standard on destination signs (but not mileage signs).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 09, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
I've never figured out what that diamond sign meant (near Lumberton, MS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2417/2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 09, 2020, 07:39:44 PM
 Warning! Odd-Looking 4s Ahead! (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1491829,-98.0538938,3a,15y,106.61h,85.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdIjWGCSDXKZoxyk9M3sKxA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 07:42:57 PM
Off-model I-5 shield (https://goo.gl/maps/3UCg43aR3sRBYxXG9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on December 10, 2020, 01:33:37 AM
Quote from: US 89 on December 09, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

This type of thing is very common on Utah mileage signs put up more than ~20 years ago.

But isn't it because they're usually independent slats?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 10, 2020, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

I'm seeing this more and more often on surface routes in Kentucky.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 10, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
I've always liked independent slats for each destination.  Like this (https://goo.gl/maps/PAGouVyK66MrvbCC9) or this (https://goo.gl/maps/zVn5TWp6XLsb41ie6).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 10, 2020, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: US 89 on December 09, 2020, 04:28:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2020, 12:21:29 PM
Divider bars between destinations on a mileage sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/jymtjz35S3Z1VsoS7)

This type of thing is very common on Utah mileage signs put up more than ~20 years ago.

Actually, Utah did unisigns with bars separating each destination line as well as individual slats on multi-destination signs.  But you are right, most of those signs have been replaced over the decades with bar-less unisigns.  A scattered few remain in the wild (at least in Eastern Utah).


Quote from: kphoger on December 10, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
I've always liked independent slats for each destination.  Like this (https://goo.gl/maps/PAGouVyK66MrvbCC9) or this (https://goo.gl/maps/zVn5TWp6XLsb41ie6).

Ohio uses independent slats for destination wayfinders at non-freeway intersections.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on December 10, 2020, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on December 10, 2020, 09:03:24 PM
A scattered few remain in the wild (at least in Eastern Utah).

I-15 still has a few, too:

(https://i.imgur.com/wly5czu.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 11, 2020, 01:25:57 PM
^ The mixed-case E(M) mileage signs with the divider bars are becoming very rare birds by now. Almost all of them are on rural interstates, but there's at least one on SR 10 south of Price. (and that one is even button copy!)

Although they are slowly being replaced, the all-caps unisign with divider bars is still probably the most common mileage sign on rural surface roads:

(https://i.imgur.com/jVhosTK.jpeg)

The variants with individual slats for each destination are still out there, but in my experience they are much harder to find. Here's one example on SR 10:

(https://i.imgur.com/UwObAXY.jpeg)

Looking through my Utah road photos, there are so many different variations of mileage signs in use today it's not funny.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 11, 2020, 07:48:36 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on December 10, 2020, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on December 10, 2020, 09:03:24 PM
Looking through my Utah road photos, there are so many different variations of mileage signs in use today it's not funny.

True that..almost as bad as New Mexico.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 12, 2020, 06:26:39 AM
Quote from: US71 on December 09, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
I've never figured out what that diamond sign meant (near Lumberton, MS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2417/2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg)

Originally, I thought it was an object marker that got covered in oil stains.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on December 12, 2020, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 12, 2020, 06:26:39 AM
Quote from: US71 on December 09, 2020, 07:36:35 PM
I've never figured out what that diamond sign meant (near Lumberton, MS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2417/2364137464_3b0c6a4c5a_z_d.jpg)

Originally, I thought it was an object marker that got covered in oil stains.


As a railroader, this is a signal called a "yellow/red board" indicating that there will be a red board (meaning STOP) 2 miles ahead protecting a work crew working on the track. You call the foreman of the crew on the radio to get permission to pass his red board without stopping at this sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 12, 2020, 01:51:13 PM
Here's a red roundabout sign (probably put up by the shopping center, but still not a great color choice).

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6101815,-98.5989048,3a,29.9y,293.78h,80.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGyFdv9MFzlFJ2M86wBKP1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on December 13, 2020, 03:40:15 PM
Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1854685,-88.6139275,3a,21.3y,204.8h,85.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWM6DZkyWnRtCB2VFkwM58w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656/) a part-red, part-white ramp speed sign on US-45 near Selmer, TN.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 13, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
...red?

Anyway, I'm guessing the white part makes that actually a regulatory speed. Also the "RAMP" gore point sign is sort of silly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on December 13, 2020, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 13, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
Also the "RAMP" gore point sign is sort of silly.

Utah sometimes does that with unnumbered exits. Here's one on US 89 at the I-84 interchange:

(https://i.imgur.com/VhXGUnA.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 14, 2020, 02:08:36 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 12, 2020, 01:51:13 PM
Here's a red roundabout sign (probably put up by the shopping center, but still not a great color choice).

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.6101815,-98.5989048,3a,29.9y,293.78h,80.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGyFdv9MFzlFJ2M86wBKP1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Makes me think, Round about where?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 14, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 13, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
...red?

Anyway, I'm guessing the white part makes that actually a regulatory speed. Also the "RAMP" gore point sign is sort of silly.

That's what I was thinking too.  At least on the first two counts.  I kind of like the setup.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 16, 2020, 04:25:14 PM
Does Route 654 go left or right here? 
https://goo.gl/maps/x1LCpZJ3WpGKG7rC9

If you live in VA you see this everywhere as a result of direction less 600 and 700 series routes, but have to admit looks strange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 16, 2020, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 16, 2020, 04:25:14 PM
Does Route 654 go left or right here? 
https://goo.gl/maps/x1LCpZJ3WpGKG7rC9

If you live in VA you see this everywhere as a result of direction less 600 and 700 series routes, but have to admit looks strange.

Really, you'd think a single shield with a double-headed arrow would be better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 16, 2020, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 16, 2020, 04:44:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 16, 2020, 04:25:14 PM
Does Route 654 go left or right here? 
https://goo.gl/maps/x1LCpZJ3WpGKG7rC9

If you live in VA you see this everywhere as a result of direction less 600 and 700 series routes, but have to admit looks strange.

Really, you'd think a single shield with a double-headed arrow would be better.

Yeah. Normally the only reason you'd post separate shields like this is to indicate cardinal directions. Oklahoma practice would be to either do that or to do a double arrow with no cardinals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Caps81943 on December 17, 2020, 11:28:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5624529,-71.4501985,3a,18.4y,290.3h,86.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6bXg5hdvolkZrtK7Jj9lkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

New Hampshire got about 10 things wrong with this Laconia sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: Caps81943 on December 17, 2020, 11:28:10 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5624529,-71.4501985,3a,18.4y,290.3h,86.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6bXg5hdvolkZrtK7Jj9lkA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

New Hampshire got about 10 things wrong with this Laconia sign.

I feel like I've seen that on one of these threads.  It may be unique and/or wrong, but it also looks kind of cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 13, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
Also the "RAMP" gore point sign is sort of silly.

I think any gore point sign is sort of silly.  Especially when they're posted a considerable distance past the actual split, like this (https://goo.gl/maps/k13x221BF7nKYsJN8).  Around me, their primary purpose seems to be target practice for drivers taking aim.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.

So do I, but gore signs don't tell me.  They're past the point of the division, and just how far past varies with every one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
I think any gore point sign is sort of silly.  Especially when they're posted a considerable distance past the actual split, like this (https://goo.gl/maps/k13x221BF7nKYsJN8).  Around me, their primary purpose seems to be target practice for drivers taking aim.

Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 02:41:47 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.

So do I, but gore signs don't tell me.  They're past the point of the division, and just how far past varies with every one.

At the location in your link, the gore sign is between a maintained gravel strip (not likely to get stuck) and a grass berm (likely to get stuck).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 17, 2020, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
I think any gore point sign is sort of silly.  Especially when they're posted a considerable distance past the actual split, like this (https://goo.gl/maps/k13x221BF7nKYsJN8).  Around me, their primary purpose seems to be target practice for drivers taking aim.

Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 02:41:47 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.

So do I, but gore signs don't tell me.  They're past the point of the division, and just how far past varies with every one.

At the location in your link, the gore sign is between a maintained gravel strip (not likely to get stuck) and a grass berm (likely to get stuck).

Or you could truly miss the point of the exit gore signs, and do this:

Quote from: AndyMax25 on August 03, 2018, 12:40:44 PM
Here are some photos. The new placement doesn't make any sense to me. Might as well not have them at all. This is westbound on I-10(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/4f5c02ffbb315b8d8d870003fa61454d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/995abfc4c8fc40a24286efaa0c14efb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/c15fad26b5d59f79d1c11c091a501258.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/0e829b7bd7c62bcd71130b837a8d2341.heic)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 17, 2020, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 17, 2020, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
I think any gore point sign is sort of silly.  Especially when they're posted a considerable distance past the actual split, like this (https://goo.gl/maps/k13x221BF7nKYsJN8).  Around me, their primary purpose seems to be target practice for drivers taking aim.

Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 02:41:47 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.

So do I, but gore signs don't tell me.  They're past the point of the division, and just how far past varies with every one.

At the location in your link, the gore sign is between a maintained gravel strip (not likely to get stuck) and a grass berm (likely to get stuck).

Or you could truly miss the point of the exit gore signs, and do this:

Quote from: AndyMax25 on August 03, 2018, 12:40:44 PM
Here are some photos. The new placement doesn't make any sense to me. Might as well not have them at all. This is westbound on I-10(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/4f5c02ffbb315b8d8d870003fa61454d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/995abfc4c8fc40a24286efaa0c14efb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/c15fad26b5d59f79d1c11c091a501258.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/0e829b7bd7c62bcd71130b837a8d2341.heic)

Seems as though Caltrans was looking for the easiest way to install those gore signs; it's much easier to install them in gravel and such vs having to jackhammer into concrete, place the beams, then pour cement into the hole and let set. Makes since considering it wasn't that long ago that CA actually started using exit numbers.

In the first 2 pics (I'm sure it's the same exit) they actually could've just placed it on the highway lighting there. Still not perfect but much better than what's there now.

Still sucks though. I agree with saying if the gore signs is going to be that far back then what's the point of having them? Also, before the numbering, were there any gore signs at these spots at all?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EpicRoadways on December 18, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
The sign isn't the "unique" part of this, but this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4823641,-93.9449089,3a,27.5y,283.1h,90.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHsVGqjBte22QNbcKmN1FXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)crosswalk sign is mounted on what has got to effectively be the longest streetlight arm in existence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 18, 2020, 12:24:00 PM
Quote from: EpicRoadways on December 18, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
The sign isn't the "unique" part of this, but this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4823641,-93.9449089,3a,27.5y,283.1h,90.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHsVGqjBte22QNbcKmN1FXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)crosswalk sign is mounted on what has got to effectively be the longest streetlight arm in existence.

Quite odd, but effective in getting more overhead lighting to the opposite side of the street/crosswalk since there's no other streetlights in the vicinity on that side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 19, 2020, 02:50:34 PM
Completely bizarre exit gore sign on the Florida Turnpike...

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.0806863,-80.215681,3a,15.9y,317.06h,93.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5qSGE2VofEzOUhRhIYrGdA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 19, 2020, 10:12:29 PM
Quote from: EpicRoadways on December 18, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
The sign isn't the "unique" part of this, but this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4823641,-93.9449089,3a,27.5y,283.1h,90.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHsVGqjBte22QNbcKmN1FXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)crosswalk sign is mounted on what has got to effectively be the longest streetlight arm in existence.

The longest arm I've ever seen is on northbound US-1 in Arlington, Virginia, at Glebe Road. Six signal heads and it looks like it should fall down compared to the support piece:

https://goo.gl/maps/NqXbmqHbvfx4bvqz5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AlexandriaVA on December 19, 2020, 10:29:23 PM
It's an insane intersection for sure.

One time several years ago I was turning from Northbound Jeff Davis onto westbound Glebe (e.g. towards 395), and I accidently went on the eastbound lanes of Glebe, south of the divider (seen here: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8425817,-77.0524743,3a,15y,271.07h,88.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srxsIHN8V21GGsMVOnXXf5A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8425817,-77.0524743,3a,15y,271.07h,88.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srxsIHN8V21GGsMVOnXXf5A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)), in the wrong direction.

Fortunately it was very late and nobody was heading my way, and because the divider wasn't too long, I was able to safely cross over back into the correct lanes and continue on my way.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 20, 2020, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: EpicRoadways on December 18, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
The sign isn't the "unique" part of this, but this  (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4823641,-93.9449089,3a,27.5y,283.1h,90.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHsVGqjBte22QNbcKmN1FXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)crosswalk sign is mounted on what has got to effectively be the longest streetlight arm in existence.

I think I've seen those in Minnesota.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 20, 2020, 09:37:15 AM
Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
I think any gore point sign is sort of silly.  Especially when they're posted a considerable distance past the actual split, like this (https://goo.gl/maps/k13x221BF7nKYsJN8).  Around me, their primary purpose seems to be target practice for drivers taking aim.

Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 02:41:47 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.

So do I, but gore signs don't tell me.  They're past the point of the division, and just how far past varies with every one.

At the location in your link, the gore sign is between a maintained gravel strip (not likely to get stuck) and a grass berm (likely to get stuck).

At this location, yes.  If it's snow-covered and you're not already familiar with the exit, who knows?  Could be a curb, could be a depressed area, etc.  The snow height isn't always an accurate indicator.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 20, 2020, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 19, 2020, 02:50:34 PM
Completely bizarre exit gore sign on the Florida Turnpike...

https://www.google.com/maps/@26.0806863,-80.215681,3a,15.9y,317.06h,93.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5qSGE2VofEzOUhRhIYrGdA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I'm thinking it's like that so it wouldn't get struck by a vehicle, but there's plenty of shoulder there..
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 21, 2020, 05:39:39 PM
Quite the colorful Business Route sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/pTXWNsjB2hpnrycT8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on December 24, 2020, 05:48:31 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 21, 2020, 05:39:39 PM
Quite the colorful Business Route sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/pTXWNsjB2hpnrycT8)

One of the Business Loop 80 signs in downtown Sacramento, CA was that way (until Caltrans, admittedly logically, just turned that segment into US 50 because it is).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on December 24, 2020, 03:10:41 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50755926722_585b147a6f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kk8oGS)
Rest area on bike path (Erie Canalway Trail/Empire State Trail) near Schenectady, NY at Lock 8 on the Erie Canal (https://flic.kr/p/2kk8oGS). 
 Have a vague memory that someone pointed out rest areas on bike trails before, so sorry if it's a repeat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 24, 2020, 05:56:55 PM
I don't know if Jeremy has a photo, but there used to be signs on US 71 at Winslow and south of Mountainburg XX (usually 10 or 12) people killed in the last 3 years. Don't you be next.

These were take down right after I-49 opened.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 29, 2020, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: plain on December 17, 2020, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 17, 2020, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
I think any gore point sign is sort of silly.  Especially when they're posted a considerable distance past the actual split, like this (https://goo.gl/maps/k13x221BF7nKYsJN8).  Around me, their primary purpose seems to be target practice for drivers taking aim.

Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 17, 2020, 02:41:47 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 17, 2020, 12:58:44 PM
When snow covers the highway, I sure appreciate knowing exactly where the division is.

So do I, but gore signs don't tell me.  They're past the point of the division, and just how far past varies with every one.

At the location in your link, the gore sign is between a maintained gravel strip (not likely to get stuck) and a grass berm (likely to get stuck).

Or you could truly miss the point of the exit gore signs, and do this:

Quote from: AndyMax25 on August 03, 2018, 12:40:44 PM
Here are some photos. The new placement doesn't make any sense to me. Might as well not have them at all. This is westbound on I-10(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/4f5c02ffbb315b8d8d870003fa61454d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/995abfc4c8fc40a24286efaa0c14efb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/c15fad26b5d59f79d1c11c091a501258.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180803/0e829b7bd7c62bcd71130b837a8d2341.heic)

Seems as though Caltrans was looking for the easiest way to install those gore signs; it's much easier to install them in gravel and such vs having to jackhammer into concrete, place the beams, then pour cement into the hole and let set. Makes since considering it wasn't that long ago that CA actually started using exit numbers.

In the first 2 pics (I'm sure it's the same exit) they actually could've just placed it on the highway lighting there. Still not perfect but much better than what's there now.

Still sucks though. I agree with saying if the gore signs is going to be that far back then what's the point of having them? Also, before the numbering, were there any gore signs at these spots at all?

What's interesting is all of those photos show the very few instances in California where they have gore signs that are more standard per the rest of the states, as opposed to the more California like gore signs that are small and obviously had the number added afterward. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 01, 2021, 06:08:32 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 link=topic=11045.msg2558558#msg2558558
What's interesting is all of those photos show the very few instances in California where they have gore signs that are more standard per the rest of the states, as opposed to the more California like gore signs that are small and obviously had the number added afterward.

Caltrans is very slowly starting to use the FHWA exit gore sign, but at a greater setback from the physical gore point. This thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23237.msg2341080#msg2341080) on the Pacific Southwest board discussed in more detail.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on January 01, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
The old "it's a word processing font"  approach to making a sign. Taken on the Jane Addams Tollway (ISHTA) in Des Plaines, Illinois on 12/31/2020. 

I have no idea how any contractor that has any sort of sense or smarts about making road signs can realize this is in any way correct.

(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4353.jpg)
(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4365.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 04, 2021, 10:12:26 PM
Quote from: machias on January 01, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
The old "it's a word processing font"  approach to making a sign. Taken on the Jane Addams Tollway (ISHTA) in Des Plaines, Illinois on 12/31/2020. 

I have no idea how any contractor that has any sort of sense or smarts about making road signs can realize this is in any way correct.

(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4353.jpg)
(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4365.jpg)

Wow those are incredibly ugly. I wonder if contacting ISTHA would get them to fix those.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 04, 2021, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 04, 2021, 10:12:26 PM
Quote from: machias on January 01, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
The old "it's a word processing font"  approach to making a sign. Taken on the Jane Addams Tollway (ISHTA) in Des Plaines, Illinois on 12/31/2020. 

I have no idea how any contractor that has any sort of sense or smarts about making road signs can realize this is in any way correct.

(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4353.jpg)
(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4365.jpg)

Wow those are incredibly ugly. I wonder if contacting ISTHA would get them to fix those.
NYSDOT had a contractor fix signage due to the same font problem on I-87 just north of Albany.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Android on January 05, 2021, 02:23:29 AM
Holy cow, seriously, is that Elmhurst sign in Series F?   

Okay, where I'm at, Wyoming, they played around with an odd bold Series F for a few scattered BGS,  20+ years ago.  Admittedly, they were a bit odd (http://members.trainorders.com/android/misc/ElRancho1.jpg), but I actually like(d) them  (not sure if any of them are still up now), they were definitely done better than that Elmhurst garbage. 

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 05, 2021, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: Android on January 05, 2021, 02:23:29 AM
Holy cow, seriously, is that Elmhurst sign in Series F?

It looks like Series E(M), but with two additional errors: the standard 3/4ths error (the capitals are too large), but then it was either stretched horizontally or shrunk vertically as well. Double shit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on January 05, 2021, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 04, 2021, 10:12:26 PM
Quote from: machias on January 01, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
The old "it's a word processing font"  approach to making a sign. Taken on the Jane Addams Tollway (ISHTA) in Des Plaines, Illinois on 12/31/2020. 

I have no idea how any contractor that has any sort of sense or smarts about making road signs can realize this is in any way correct.

(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4353.jpg)
(https://www.jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_4365.jpg)

Wow those are incredibly ugly. I wonder if contacting ISTHA would get them to fix those.

I contacted ISHTA a couple of weeks ago but haven't heard anything back, perhaps others can do the same. I think whoever was designing the sign wrong realized the lowercase letters weren't meeting the plans so they stretched the letters out to fill in the gap left by the letters being too small instead of modifying the letters to the correct size.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on January 07, 2021, 02:59:54 PM
Poor Janet.

(https://i.imgur.com/4tQXp1l.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on January 07, 2021, 10:52:29 PM
^^ Wonder if "Interestingly vandalized signs"  is a thread yet. That's a good contender to start one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 08, 2021, 05:58:51 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on January 07, 2021, 10:52:29 PM
^^ Wonder if "Interestingly vandalized signs"  is a thread yet. That's a good contender to start one.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10303
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 08, 2021, 09:51:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8268085,-108.0208266,3a,15y,186.9h,85.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC54hG9JTdbT6H1vSY8yPjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Dunno why you have to know what OPPOSING traffic must do in each lane...If you are turning left, both lanes have the right-of-way anyway.   
And if you plan to go straight, the sign makes it LOOK like opposing traffic turning left will be using your lane, because the divider on the sign is directly above the divider on the road!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 08, 2021, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 08, 2021, 09:51:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8268085,-108.0208266,3a,15y,186.9h,85.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC54hG9JTdbT6H1vSY8yPjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Dunno why you have to know what OPPOSING traffic must do in each lane...If you are turning left, both lanes have the right-of-way anyway.   
And if you plan to go straight, the sign makes it LOOK like opposing traffic turning left will be using your lane, because the divider on the sign is directly above the divider on the road!

Agreed. This sign is both unnecessary and causes confusion. That standard keep right arrow is all that's needed there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wxfree on January 09, 2021, 01:27:01 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 06, 2020, 01:35:55 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on November 06, 2020, 02:43:19 AM

Quote from: kphoger on November 05, 2020, 03:57:45 PM

Quote from: CardInLex on November 04, 2020, 08:13:42 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on November 03, 2020, 11:25:17 AM
"43 feet between highway and tracks behind you." At a RR crossing/signal in Midland. https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9766448,-102.1110157,3a,27.3y,301.16h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHGg90WGB9G8SIFugpN03Hg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is a standard sign, W10-11b. But it is a weird number, surprised they wouldn't round down to 40.

Good catch!  For those of you too lazy to look it up in the MUTCD (not judging):

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig8b_04.gif)

Aren't the W10-3 and W10-11 the same sign? Surprised it has a different designation, but I guess some people might be unaware that you can rotate the same sign...

Well, that's probably better than one guidance statement in the MUTCD covering two different applications.  I could just see some crew installing one in the wrong orientation because that's what was shown in the book.

On a nearby road construction project, I remember seeing square object markers, the kind with the slanted lines, on the ends of guardrails.  They're like OM3-L and OM3-R, but square, so they can slant in either direction.  They're mounted level, not like a diamond.  The rectangles are unique, because they can't be mounted sideways, but a square can be put on either side of the road as long as it's rotated correctly.  I don't see it in the MUTCD.  Maybe it's called something else.  But there were two different ones, one for the right side of the road and one for the left side.  The only difference is that the word "top" is printed on the side that's meant to be on top.  There are two different designs with the word in two different places.  This way the road crew has different part numbers for each side of the road, and as long as they use the right one, and follow the "top" instruction, they'll install them correctly.

Edit: That road is open now.  Here's Street View showing a bunch of them.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3820017,-97.3708198,3a,75y,84.27h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soBXEAsVonQzwVcJtyLojXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3820017,-97.3708198,3a,75y,84.27h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soBXEAsVonQzwVcJtyLojXA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 09, 2021, 01:17:56 PM
Quote from: plain on January 08, 2021, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 08, 2021, 09:51:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8268085,-108.0208266,3a,15y,186.9h,85.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC54hG9JTdbT6H1vSY8yPjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Dunno why you have to know what OPPOSING traffic must do in each lane...If you are turning left, both lanes have the right-of-way anyway.   
And if you plan to go straight, the sign makes it LOOK like opposing traffic turning left will be using your lane, because the divider on the sign is directly above the divider on the road!

Agreed. This sign is both unnecessary and causes confusion. That standard keep right arrow is all that's needed there.

My guess is they had problems with people turning into the path of oncoming traffic, because for some reason people didn't realize traffic didn't have to turn there.

Quote from: wxfree on January 09, 2021, 01:27:01 AM
On a nearby road construction project, I remember seeing square object markers, the kind with the slanted lines, on the ends of guardrails.  They're like OM3-L and OM3-R, but square, so they can slant in either direction.  They're mounted level, not like a diamond.  The rectangles are unique, because they can't be mounted sideways, but a square can be put on either side of the road as long as it's rotated correctly.  I don't see it in the MUTCD.  Maybe it's called something else. 

I think those are considered just part of the crash attenuator cap on the end of the guardrail, thus why they don't have an MUTCD code. Square crash attenuators with the slant-line markings like that have been Oklahoma standard for a couple decades now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on January 10, 2021, 12:01:36 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 09, 2021, 01:17:56 PM
Quote from: plain on January 08, 2021, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 08, 2021, 09:51:57 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8268085,-108.0208266,3a,15y,186.9h,85.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC54hG9JTdbT6H1vSY8yPjQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Dunno why you have to know what OPPOSING traffic must do in each lane...If you are turning left, both lanes have the right-of-way anyway.   
And if you plan to go straight, the sign makes it LOOK like opposing traffic turning left will be using your lane, because the divider on the sign is directly above the divider on the road!

Agreed. This sign is both unnecessary and causes confusion. That standard keep right arrow is all that's needed there.

My guess is they had problems with people turning into the path of oncoming traffic, because for some reason people didn't realize traffic didn't have to turn there.

Quote from: wxfree on January 09, 2021, 01:27:01 AM
On a nearby road construction project, I remember seeing square object markers, the kind with the slanted lines, on the ends of guardrails.  They're like OM3-L and OM3-R, but square, so they can slant in either direction.  They're mounted level, not like a diamond.  The rectangles are unique, because they can't be mounted sideways, but a square can be put on either side of the road as long as it's rotated correctly.  I don't see it in the MUTCD.  Maybe it's called something else. 

I think those are considered just part of the crash attenuator cap on the end of the guardrail, thus why they don't have an MUTCD code. Square crash attenuators with the slant-line markings like that have been Oklahoma standard for a couple decades now.

We have had these in Louisiana for a long time as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on January 10, 2021, 11:16:21 PM
Interesting use of a "NOTICE" banner on a highway shield (which, oddly, is just called "TRUCK ROUTE") in Kermit, TX:

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8526279,-103.0674696,3a,15y,289.82h,89.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIZ6eMYKzDoLpQtLJMq5lew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Frankly I like it better than those "NEW" signs that are posted in Canada (and sometimes in the US?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 12, 2021, 03:46:54 PM
Found this in Tacoma. This would be "erroneous" if only for the first issue, but there are other things:

(1) sign is upside down;
(2) the sign is old but was originally installed right-side up (https://goo.gl/maps/qGDjXwdrwhR2rWNJ6)...perhaps some people came and flipped it for fun?;
(3) sign is in the middle of Tacoma's downtown in a grid system of signals (the sign is redundant);
(4) the sign is very difficult to see (https://goo.gl/maps/mT7MRE99rh8aAdDn8), being to the right of a parking lane and behind trees that are normally thick with leaves.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50829429602_80a3836b23_3k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50829345801_8e8e7fcb62_3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:47 AM
Somebody posted a video on the signs he only saw when he came to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa7WBZeyWHc
There aren't any Amish Buggy warning signs that are of European standards, are there?


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 13, 2021, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:47 AMThere aren't any Amish Buggy warning signs that are of European standards, are there?

There are warning signs for horse-drawn vehicles--Britain has one, for example.

We didn't actually have such a warning sign in the national MUTCD until a recent edition (2003, I think).  Symbol signs were in use in several states before then, and they nearly all used an Amish buggy design, but I don't think they were ever intended to be specific to the types of horse-drawn vehicles that the Amish use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on January 13, 2021, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:47 AM
There aren't any Amish Buggy warning signs that are of European standards, are there?
The closest are warning signs for horse-drawn carriages. Example of Swedish signs, all variants:

(https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-1.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-2.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-3.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 13, 2021, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on January 13, 2021, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:47 AM
There aren't any Amish Buggy warning signs that are of European standards, are there?
The closest are warning signs for horse-drawn carriages. Example of Swedish signs, all variants:

(https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-1.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-2.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-3.png)

The one on the far right makes me think there is a harness racing track ahead, or that you are about to cross the track itself!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 13, 2021, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: riiga on January 13, 2021, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:47 AM
There aren't any Amish Buggy warning signs that are of European standards, are there?
The closest are warning signs for horse-drawn carriages. Example of Swedish signs, all variants:

(https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-1.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-2.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/a32-3.png)

The one on the far right makes me think there is a harness racing track ahead, or that you are about to cross the track itself!
Okay, so I can see those signs being used in Europe. But the video is presenting the European signs (not the Swedish variants) as if they're in the United States.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 11:19:44 PM
But the video is presenting the European signs (not the Swedish variants) as if they're in the United States.

Unusual.  I've been watching his videos for a couple of years now, and he usually either (a) does enough research to get the graphic correct, or else (b) catches the error later and then pokes fun at himself for making the mistake.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 01:09:31 PM
Wasn't it just the horse-drawn buggy sign that he got wrong? Seems like the rest (no turn on red, yield, detour) he got right. The bear graphic was a little off but was close enough.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 14, 2021, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 13, 2021, 11:19:44 PMBut the video is presenting the European signs (not the Swedish variants) as if they're in the United States.

Unusual.  I've been watching his videos for a couple of years now, and he usually either (a) does enough research to get the graphic correct, or else (b) catches the error later and then pokes fun at himself for making the mistake.

Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 01:09:31 PMWasn't it just the horse-drawn buggy sign that he got wrong? Seems like the rest (no turn on red, yield, detour) he got right. The bear graphic was a little off but was close enough.

I actually watched the video this time, which I hadn't done before I commented yesterday.  The impression I get is that this guy hasn't actually looked at the MUTCD (for the US) or the TSRGD (for Britain).  He isn't representing the British sign (which he does show) as something that is found in the US.  He just uses it as a jumping-off point for a long tangent on the Amish.  I suspect it didn't even occur to him to look in either the MUTCD or Standard Highway Signs for the symbolic warning sign that depicts an Amish buggy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 14, 2021, 01:24:31 PM
I actually watched the video this time, which I hadn't done before I commented yesterday.  The impression I get is that this guy hasn't actually looked at the MUTCD (for the US) or the TSRGD (for Britain).  He isn't representing the British sign (which he does show) as something that is found in the US.  He just uses it as a jumping-off point for a long tangent on the Amish.  I suspect it didn't even occur to him to look in either the MUTCD or Standard Highway Signs for the symbolic warning sign that depicts an Amish buggy.

Having watched a lot of his videos already in the past, I'd say your assessment of his level of research is correct.  I doubt he dived into the MUTCD or TSRGD, except perhaps briefly.

However, when I watched the video, I did see the British sign as being presented as one found in the US.  The other graphics used in the same way are certainly US signs, and the whole point of them being shown in the first place is to illustrate those he's only seen in the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 14, 2021, 01:47:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2021, 03:46:54 PM
Found this in Tacoma. This would be "erroneous" if only for the first issue, but there are other things:
(4) the sign is very difficult to see (https://goo.gl/maps/mT7MRE99rh8aAdDn8), being to the right of a parking lane and behind trees that are normally thick with leaves.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50829429602_80a3836b23_3k.jpg)

???

Parking in a no-parking zone?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 01:57:27 PM
Maybe "standing" only.  ?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 14, 2021, 01:47:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 12, 2021, 03:46:54 PM
Found this in Tacoma. This would be "erroneous" if only for the first issue, but there are other things:
(4) the sign is very difficult to see (https://goo.gl/maps/mT7MRE99rh8aAdDn8), being to the right of a parking lane and behind trees that are normally thick with leaves.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50829429602_80a3836b23_3k.jpg)

???

Parking in a no-parking zone?

Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 01:57:27 PM
Maybe "standing" only.  ?

I think what happened was that, back before about 2007, this part of the road was a large obround circle (https://www.historicaerials.com/location/47.25039923328996/-122.43930255902934/2002/19); the area in front of the sign would have been part of the turning area, and they likely didn't want traffic to park in the area. Once the circle was removed, the sign became a bit silly since there's really no reason an extra car can't park in front of the signal-ahead sign. That said, the red curbing continues to be painted and repainted, and the sign clearly remains. Having the transition between parking lane and drive lane painted red is something that is fairly common in Tacoma, but the extra "no parking" sign is pretty odd.

I don't know about everywhere else, but parking signs here are always posted at the front of the restrictions: the sign above would apply to everyone who can see that sign in front of them. Beyond that sign would be a different restriction (which is also posted in the image, in the background). This is normal elsewhere, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 14, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
There's a sign the background reading "NO PARKING/TAXI STAND".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:41:05 PM
I don't know about everywhere else, but parking signs here are always posted at the front of the restrictions: the sign above would apply to everyone who can see that sign in front of them. Beyond that sign would be a different restriction (which is also posted in the image, in the background). This is normal elsewhere, right?

I don't know, parking signs without arrows have always confused the heck out of me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
There's a sign the background reading "NO PARKING/TAXI STAND".

I thought it might have been related, but the signs line up with red curbing where taxis are also not permitted to park. The yellow zone seems to be for taxis.

Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:41:05 PM
I don't know about everywhere else, but parking signs here are always posted at the front of the restrictions: the sign above would apply to everyone who can see that sign in front of them. Beyond that sign would be a different restriction (which is also posted in the image, in the background). This is normal elsewhere, right?

I don't know, parking signs without arrows have always confused the heck out of me.

Are parking signs in your area normally parallel to the road, with arrows pointing towards the restriction? I've seen this before and I think it makes more sense. I received a ticket for parking here (https://goo.gl/maps/3cRmyYQfdAkAaudM7) once; I thought the 90-min restriction applied beyond the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
Are parking signs in your area normally parallel to the road, with arrows pointing towards the restriction? I've seen this before and I think it makes more sense. I received a ticket for parking here (https://goo.gl/maps/3cRmyYQfdAkAaudM7) once; I thought the 90-min restriction applied beyond the sign.

I so rarely have to parallel-park where there are signs, that I'm not even sure.  Let's check GSV...

example near my house (https://goo.gl/maps/TYEUtK8atC6ZsBNx7)
example of beginning and end (https://goo.gl/maps/bj8147EJrfSCT5pd7)
another beginning and end (https://goo.gl/maps/bn98PhN2DDuCKLpM9)
begin no parking zone (https://goo.gl/maps/QAhGQ83ntYqXvfFf9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on January 14, 2021, 09:18:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
There's a sign the background reading "NO PARKING/TAXI STAND".

I thought it might have been related, but the signs line up with red curbing where taxis are also not permitted to park. The yellow zone seems to be for taxis.


CA and some other states do use painted curbs to denote different parking restrictions.  I think it is a good thing.  It makes it easier to know exactly where to park.   

Here is an example listing:

https://ladot.lacity.org/residents/colored-curb-zones


In most states in the northeast, the colored curbs have no meaning, only the signage controls parking regulations.  You sometimes see homeowners paint yellow around their driveways, but the yellow has no official meaning.  It would really be nice if they painted curbs around fire hydrants, especially in places like NYC with lots of hydrants and little parking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 14, 2021, 09:20:55 PM
Quote from: mrsman on January 14, 2021, 09:18:14 PM
In most states in the northeast, the colored curbs have no meaning, only the signage controls parking regulations.  You sometimes see homeowners paint yellow around their driveways, but the yellow has no official meaning.  It would really be nice if they painted curbs around fire hydrants, especially in places like NYC with lots of hydrants and little parking.

If there's more than a few inches of snow, you won't be able to see the curb color.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2021, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
Are parking signs in your area normally parallel to the road, with arrows pointing towards the restriction? I've seen this before and I think it makes more sense. I received a ticket for parking here (https://goo.gl/maps/3cRmyYQfdAkAaudM7) once; I thought the 90-min restriction applied beyond the sign.

I so rarely have to parallel-park where there are signs, that I'm not even sure.  Let's check GSV...

example near my house (https://goo.gl/maps/TYEUtK8atC6ZsBNx7)
example of beginning and end (https://goo.gl/maps/bj8147EJrfSCT5pd7)
another beginning and end (https://goo.gl/maps/bn98PhN2DDuCKLpM9)
begin no parking zone (https://goo.gl/maps/QAhGQ83ntYqXvfFf9)

I think the parallel-to-street setup with arrows is far more logical.

Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2021, 09:20:55 PM
Quote from: mrsman on January 14, 2021, 09:18:14 PM
In most states in the northeast, the colored curbs have no meaning, only the signage controls parking regulations.  You sometimes see homeowners paint yellow around their driveways, but the yellow has no official meaning.  It would really be nice if they painted curbs around fire hydrants, especially in places like NYC with lots of hydrants and little parking.

If there's more than a few inches of snow, you won't be able to see the curb color.

Why would that matter? The Seattle area (https://www.seattle.gov/transportation/projects-and-programs/programs/parking-program/parking-regulations/curb-colors) is an extensive user of curb colors, much like California, and we get snow. Maybe not feet of snow, but it still snows from time to time, enough to block curb colors. The colored curbs are never used by themselves, but are guides so that you know to which points the signs apply.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 16, 2021, 01:54:52 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 02:58:01 PM
Are parking signs in your area normally parallel to the road, with arrows pointing towards the restriction? I've seen this before and I think it makes more sense. I received a ticket for parking here (https://goo.gl/maps/3cRmyYQfdAkAaudM7) once; I thought the 90-min restriction applied beyond the sign.

It really seems to be a combination. Simple "No Parking" signs for a continuous no parking area (and related variants, like "no parking, bike lane") tend to be mounted perpendicular to the road (like virtually all road signs), or sometimes at a 45° angle to the road. But other signs with unique parking restrictions and denoting specified parking zones tend to either be parallel to the road or at a 45° angle (with, I think, the angle being more common) and use arrows to denote the zones.

When defining specific parking zones/restrictions, I think the an angle mounting approach is best because it can be seen from the roadway and the arrows will make intuitive sense in defining the zone's endpoints. Perpendicular mounting is less obvious as to where the restrictions apply without additional context, and arrows don't make as much sense (does left or right mean "forward from sign"?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 16, 2021, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 14, 2021, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2021, 09:20:55 PM
Quote from: mrsman on January 14, 2021, 09:18:14 PM
In most states in the northeast, the colored curbs have no meaning, only the signage controls parking regulations.  You sometimes see homeowners paint yellow around their driveways, but the yellow has no official meaning.  It would really be nice if they painted curbs around fire hydrants, especially in places like NYC with lots of hydrants and little parking.

If there's more than a few inches of snow, you won't be able to see the curb color.

Why would that matter? The Seattle area (https://www.seattle.gov/transportation/projects-and-programs/programs/parking-program/parking-regulations/curb-colors) is an extensive user of curb colors, much like California, and we get snow. Maybe not feet of snow, but it still snows from time to time, enough to block curb colors. The colored curbs are never used by themselves, but are guides so that you know to which points the signs apply.

I believe some states and/or local entities have codified curb colors to have specific meanings in regards to parking regulations, and it's very likely some of these jurisdictions rely on the paint alone without signs to enforce restrictions. So in situations where the curb could be covered by snow, paint has faded, etc., this can be problematic for road users. There is also the issue that not all jurisdictions use the same colors for the same meaning, so people not familiar with local parking regulations may be extra susceptible to receiving parking tickets.

Thus, painting a curb to enforce parking regulations should really be a supplement to signs.

I'll also note that the MUTCD does not define meanings for painted curbs in the context of parking regulations, and encourages use of signs to convey parking regulations and paint to supplement.
Quote from: 2009 MUTCD
Section 3B.23 Curb Markings

Support:
01 Curb markings are most often used to indicate parking regulations or to delineate the curb.

Standard:
02 Where curbs are marked to convey parking regulations in areas where curb markings are frequently obscured by snow and ice accumulation, signs shall be used with the curb markings except as provided in Paragraph 4.

Guidance:
03 Except as provided in Paragraph 4, when curb markings are used without signs to convey parking regulations, a legible word marking regarding the regulation (such as "No Parking" or "No Standing") should be placed on the curb.

Option:
04 Curb markings without word markings or signs may be used to convey a general prohibition by statute of parking within a specified distance of a stop sign, YIELD sign, driveway, fire hydrant, or crosswalk.

05 Local highway agencies may prescribe special colors for curb markings to supplement standard signs for parking regulation.

Support:
06 Since yellow and white curb markings are frequently used for curb delineation and visibility, it is advisable to establish parking regulations through the installation of standard signs (see Sections 2B.46 through 2B.48).
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 16, 2021, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 16, 2021, 01:58:35 PM
I believe some states and/or local entities have codified curb colors to have specific meanings in regards to parking regulations, and it's very likely some of these jurisdictions rely on the paint alone without signs to enforce restrictions. So in situations where the curb could be covered by snow, paint has faded, etc., this can be problematic for road users. There is also the issue that not all jurisdictions use the same colors for the same meaning, so people not familiar with local parking regulations may be extra susceptible to receiving parking tickets.

Thus, painting a curb to enforce parking regulations should really be a supplement to signs.

I can't really speak for areas outside of Washington, but I've not seen painted curbs used without supplemental signage (but then, I've always considered the curb colors to be the supplemental bit). The only thing that rarely has an accompanying sign are bus curbs, which are alternating red and yellow. The only accompanying sign is typically the bus route signage. This is an example (https://goo.gl/maps/Q1H96bkTJeKt3kAa9), immediately adjacent to the 90-min parking spot that I was ticked in.

From what I've seen, "red [no parking] zones" also aren't signed that often (stop signs being an exception (https://goo.gl/maps/orMRx3rDJMXAtDaXA)), but I would think that red curbing would be correctly interpreted as "no parking/stopping/standing" by the vast majority of drivers. Plus, I think most jurisdictions, at least in WA, have codified rules about parking within a certain distance of driveways (5ft in Tacoma), so many of the red curbs are extensions of that law, and are a reminder not to park with your car immediately perpendicular to the exit from a driveway or alley (although I recognize most people ignore this rule).

The big question, to me, is California. California uses green and blue, which I do not see in WA (white is common here but only in some areas -- always signed as it has multiple meanings). I would think they would sign both, particularly since green has multiple meanings (time lengths), and blue (disabled parking) would have to be accompanied by an actual sign to be enforced. I would think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on January 17, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
Massive exit tab on a gore sign on 610 in Houston:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7101053,-95.4603625,3a,15y,174.65h,90.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGDshNyMAOiPDN4bvDnK9Bw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ned Weasel on January 17, 2021, 10:24:13 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 17, 2021, 08:57:54 PM
Massive exit tab on a gore sign on 610 in Houston:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7101053,-95.4603625,3a,15y,174.65h,90.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGDshNyMAOiPDN4bvDnK9Bw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Not terrible, but these are better: https://goo.gl/maps/p9m7C7gFNYKSD6yv9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 18, 2021, 11:27:18 AM
Burying the lead. (https://goo.gl/maps/kHzUbT7uFAZoyYxdA)  Sure, there's a playground ahead, but you'll have to slow to zero before you get there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on January 18, 2021, 11:41:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 16, 2021, 02:21:36 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 16, 2021, 01:58:35 PM
I believe some states and/or local entities have codified curb colors to have specific meanings in regards to parking regulations, and it's very likely some of these jurisdictions rely on the paint alone without signs to enforce restrictions. So in situations where the curb could be covered by snow, paint has faded, etc., this can be problematic for road users. There is also the issue that not all jurisdictions use the same colors for the same meaning, so people not familiar with local parking regulations may be extra susceptible to receiving parking tickets.

Thus, painting a curb to enforce parking regulations should really be a supplement to signs.

I can't really speak for areas outside of Washington, but I've not seen painted curbs used without supplemental signage (but then, I've always considered the curb colors to be the supplemental bit). The only thing that rarely has an accompanying sign are bus curbs, which are alternating red and yellow. The only accompanying sign is typically the bus route signage. This is an example (https://goo.gl/maps/Q1H96bkTJeKt3kAa9), immediately adjacent to the 90-min parking spot that I was ticked in.

From what I've seen, "red [no parking] zones" also aren't signed that often (stop signs being an exception (https://goo.gl/maps/orMRx3rDJMXAtDaXA)), but I would think that red curbing would be correctly interpreted as "no parking/stopping/standing" by the vast majority of drivers. Plus, I think most jurisdictions, at least in WA, have codified rules about parking within a certain distance of driveways (5ft in Tacoma), so many of the red curbs are extensions of that law, and are a reminder not to park with your car immediately perpendicular to the exit from a driveway or alley (although I recognize most people ignore this rule).

The big question, to me, is California. California uses green and blue, which I do not see in WA (white is common here but only in some areas -- always signed as it has multiple meanings). I would think they would sign both, particularly since green has multiple meanings (time lengths), and blue (disabled parking) would have to be accompanied by an actual sign to be enforced. I would think.

To me the ideal with regard to parking restrictions would be both signs and paint markings.  The paint is very helpful to denote the areas of allowed and not allowed parking, but the signs would generally carry the force of law.  If both were used, the painted curbs are not an issue with regard to heavy snowfall or other issues where the curb can be obscured.

I can also tell you that many states (or localities) have rules ingrained in law regarding how close you may or may not park to an intersection, crosswalk, and/or fire hydrant.  These often are not accompanied by signs.  With regard to fire hydrants specifically, I can tell you that even though there is no sign present, CA cities routinely paint the zone in red, but in NYC there are no markings.  It would be nice if the city would paint the curb there for the 9 months of the year when there is no snow and not risk getting a ticket, because I left my yardstick at home.

Jakeroot specifically asked about CA's use of the green and blue curbs.  While every city operates differently, Los Angeles will typically put in place some type of sign to accompany these.  L.A. would also paint white words ontop of the colored curbs with the limits.  There is a picture on this website of markings on the green curb.

https://blog.spothero.com/5-ways-to-find-free-parking-in-la/

What typically is not put on signs or on the pavement is the "secret" that yellow zones are for loading only from 7 AM - 6 PM Mon-Sat.  So at nighttime and on Sundays, you can park for an unlimited time at yellow zones.

https://laist.com/2007/06/24/its_one_of_the.php
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 18, 2021, 08:12:03 PM
Interesting gore sign placement on Sunrise Highway:
(https://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny27/102_1667-s.JPG)

Most exits here use overheads:
(https://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny27/102_1646-s.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on January 18, 2021, 09:31:15 PM
Here's also another odd placement for an exit gore sign. This is in the westbound local lanes of I-96 in Detroit approaching Evergreen Rd.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.378329,-83.230814,3a,44.3y,275.29h,92.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_-Ij9ZG6fmqA2A8llYYEbw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 18, 2021, 10:38:01 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 18, 2021, 08:12:03 PM
Interesting gore sign placement on Sunrise Highway:
(https://nysroads.com/images/gallery/NY/ny27/102_1667-s.JPG)
Reminds me of Exits 16 and 17 westbound on the Mass Pike until a couple years ago.
Exit 17's gore sign was in advance on the side (https://goo.gl/maps/Jds8k9Afk5sV8nnbA) and by 2016 it was leaning back at the joint, and in 2017 it had fallen back if you check the other dates in the imagery.  2018 imagery from Charlesbank Road shows what sure looks like the sign (https://goo.gl/maps/X1KDh1ZLuBD4eCKL9) down nearly into the railroad ROW in the brush[/url]; who knows what happened to it after that.  Sign replacement got rid of the button copy along there a couple years ago and a proper gore sign was installed at the actual gore point for then-Exit 17.

Exit 16 also had the misplaced advance gore sign (https://goo.gl/maps/azttrBcN9iLJQxo29), and if you move from date to date and check out the overhead on the bridge, it can be seen that the button copy gore sign coexisted with the new overhead for a year or so before the properly-placed gore sign went in and the old one was removed.  Meanwhile, the bottoms of the posts stick around at the previous exit. 

Somehow eastbound, the 90s button copy gore signs all went in the right place; the errors were westbound-only.  And it may be faulty memory but I could swear that the previous signs (before these mid-90s button copy ones) had misplaced gore signs too; I remember seeing the Exit 17 one from Charlesbank Road on the Walk For Hunger long ago. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 11:00:36 AM
Here's a warning sign I've never seen in real life.  Just saw it on GSV, at a roadside checkpoint in Mexico.

PRODUCCIÃ"N DE RAYOS GAMMA = GAMMA RAYS GENERATED

(https://i.imgur.com/K0XItwc.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 19, 2021, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 11:00:36 AM
Here's a warning sign I've never seen in real life.  Just saw it on GSV, at a roadside checkpoint in Mexico.

PRODUCCIÃ"N DE RAYOS GAMMA = GAMMA RAYS GENERATED

(https://i.imgur.com/K0XItwc.jpg)
Are they trying to turn unsuspecting motorists into the Hulk?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 19, 2021, 01:17:55 PM
N 1st, Tacoma:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50601846698_c395dedb89_3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 19, 2021, 01:29:49 PM
It sure is.

(Love the stealth joke there...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 02:22:31 PM
And here I was thinking, No it's not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 19, 2021, 02:33:01 PM
I believe the 1 is to come first?https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50848872888/in/photostream
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 19, 2021, 02:33:01 PM
I believe the 1 is to come first?https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50848872888/in/photostream

For posterity:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50848872888_bcdfa24261_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ktkLmY)Jacksonville, FL- I-95 (https://flic.kr/p/2ktkLmY) by john p nasiatka (https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 19, 2021, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 19, 2021, 02:33:01 PM
I believe the 1 is to come first?https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50848872888/in/photostream

For posterity:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50848872888_bcdfa24261_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ktkLmY)Jacksonville, FL- I-95 (https://flic.kr/p/2ktkLmY) by john p nasiatka (https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/), on Flickr

My Nokia phone won’t let me post my Flickr as the box on the lower corner doesn’t show up. The drop down that lets you choose a size and copy is not there on that particular device.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 19, 2021, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 19, 2021, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 19, 2021, 02:33:01 PM
I believe the 1 is to come first?https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50848872888/in/photostream

For posterity:

(img)

My Nokia phone won’t let me post my Flickr as the box on the lower corner doesn’t show up. The drop down that lets you choose a size and copy is not there on that particular device.

See if the browser allows you select "View Desktop Site" or something similarly named. It reloads the desktop version of the site, which has the little arrow button to choose which one you want with the BB Code. Admittedly, it's a little tough to use and sometimes I have to rotate the phone or pinch zoom in/out to get those tiny icons to appear.

Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2021, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.

As long as it's a diamond, the added lane sign is probably correct and proper.  Actual conditions dictate how the exact diagram on the sign should be placed.  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_08_longdesc.htm
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 20, 2021, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2021, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.

As long as it's a diamond, the added lane sign is probably correct and proper.  Actual conditions dictate how the exact diagram on the sign should be placed.  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_08_longdesc.htm

Somebody post that in Crash_It's thread about people not getting the continued right turn lane right.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on January 20, 2021, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2021, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.

As long as it's a diamond, the added lane sign is probably correct and proper.  Actual conditions dictate how the exact diagram on the sign should be placed.  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_08_longdesc.htm


I see these a lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 20, 2021, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2021, 07:58:50 AM

Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM

Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM

Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)

I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.

As long as it's a diamond, the added lane sign is probably correct and proper.  Actual conditions dictate how the exact diagram on the sign should be placed.  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_08_longdesc.htm

It's probably a bit of a fuzzy area.  Arguably, maybe it should fall under the guidance below.

Quote from: MUTCD, 2009 Edition
Chapter 2C.  Warning Signs And Object Markers

Section 2C.41 Added Lane Signs (W4-3, W4-6)

Guidance:
02  When an Added Lane sign is to be installed on a roadway that curves before converging with another roadway that has a tangent alignment at the point of convergence, the Entering Roadway Added Lane (W4-6) sign (see Figure 2C-8) should be used to better portray the actual geometric conditions to road users on the curving roadway.

Which is this:

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 20, 2021, 01:27:30 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2021, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.

As long as it's a diamond, the added lane sign is probably correct and proper.  Actual conditions dictate how the exact diagram on the sign should be placed.  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_08_longdesc.htm


Indeed, there is a proper sign for the turning movement where a lane is added non-merging (https://goo.gl/maps/WAebNjqTGX3fvPR79).  Something rubs me the wrong way about that sign being where it is pictured in Florida with a signalized crosswalk conflicting with the turn.  And looking around the corner, that is hardly an added lane; it nearly instantly turns into a right turn only. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 21, 2021, 04:46:15 PM
154 mile 30 foot truck advisory on CA 1 in Bodega Bay:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50853047773_8b8598d8be_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ktHapK)IMG_4669 (https://flic.kr/p/2ktHapK) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 23, 2021, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on January 20, 2021, 01:27:30 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 20, 2021, 07:58:50 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 20, 2021, 07:16:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2021, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: chays on January 19, 2021, 11:40:06 PM
Someone thought that rotating a merge warning to indicate a fairly basic right turn was a good idea.
Industry Rd approaching SR-524 in Cocoa, FL.
https://goo.gl/maps/THkavEHidFQHwtcb7

(https://i.imgur.com/OmSuN64.png)
I've seen that in other locations.

I've seen them rotated 90 or 45 degrees, which I'm assuming is improper usage...but I appreciate those "no-need-to merge" signs anyhow.

As long as it's a diamond, the added lane sign is probably correct and proper.  Actual conditions dictate how the exact diagram on the sign should be placed.  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/fig2c_08_longdesc.htm


Indeed, there is a proper sign for the turning movement where a lane is added non-merging (https://goo.gl/maps/WAebNjqTGX3fvPR79).  Something rubs me the wrong way about that sign being where it is pictured in Florida with a signalized crosswalk conflicting with the turn.  And looking around the corner, that is hardly an added lane; it nearly instantly turns into a right turn only.

And really, that "Entering Roadway Added Lane" (W4-6) sign is really meant for freeway ramp merges, not right turns at intersections... But there's not another MUTCD-standard sign that conveys the same concept for an intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 23, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Right or wrong: seeing that sign, I would assume that my right turn did not require a stop. To me, those are specifically for slip lanes and on-ramps where at-most you might deal with a crosswalk.

That approach is very confusing. You have the signal, which this right turn is clearly part of. Then you have the ped-crossing sign...why? And then the added-lane sign on the right, even though it's not really an added lane. Whoever designed this right turn really sucks at their job.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 25, 2021, 11:06:17 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 23, 2021, 12:32:06 PM
And really, that "Entering Roadway Added Lane" (W4-6) sign is really meant for freeway ramp merges, not right turns at intersections... But there's not another MUTCD-standard sign that conveys the same concept for an intersection.

This location (https://goo.gl/maps/W4t9beBjd7P9aMEP8) is an example of a place that really needs better treatment, as every time by there (in the Before Times, it would be basically daily, now maybe weekly) you see someone stopped in the channelized right turn lane with horns blaring behind them.  The wordy CONTINUOUS RIGHT TURN WITH CAUTION sign is ubiquitous in these parts but basically incomprehensible for some, and if you advance the date, you see the diamond added lane sign disappeared several years ago; unclear if deliberate or not.  The presence of the crosswalk may be complicating things.  The mast-mounted signal is for visibility around the curve and if it weren't there, you probably wouldn't see as many people stopping thinking the red light was for the right turns.  Can't use a constant green right arrow because of the crosswalk; wonder if someday it might get a flashing yellow arrow?
I still wish the W4-6 were there.  It clarifies for Market St/OH 18 that the right turners from Smith get their own lane too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 26, 2021, 11:47:03 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on January 25, 2021, 11:06:17 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 23, 2021, 12:32:06 PM
And really, that "Entering Roadway Added Lane" (W4-6) sign is really meant for freeway ramp merges, not right turns at intersections... But there's not another MUTCD-standard sign that conveys the same concept for an intersection.

This location (https://goo.gl/maps/W4t9beBjd7P9aMEP8) is an example of a place that really needs better treatment, as every time by there (in the Before Times, it would be basically daily, now maybe weekly) you see someone stopped in the channelized right turn lane with horns blaring behind them.  The wordy CONTINUOUS RIGHT TURN WITH CAUTION sign is ubiquitous in these parts but basically incomprehensible for some, and if you advance the date, you see the diamond added lane sign disappeared several years ago; unclear if deliberate or not.  The presence of the crosswalk may be complicating things.  The mast-mounted signal is for visibility around the curve and if it weren't there, you probably wouldn't see as many people stopping thinking the red light was for the right turns.  Can't use a constant green right arrow because of the crosswalk; wonder if someday it might get a flashing yellow arrow?
I still wish the W4-6 were there.  It clarifies for Market St/OH 18 that the right turners from Smith get their own lane too.

Yeah, the added lane sign in that instance does make sense. The agency in charge of the intersection should be reminded that one used to be there...

What might also help is if that near side signal head was aimed a little more to the left and had louvers added so that it couldn't be seen from the right turn lane. That, and/or the "continuous right turn with caution" sign* were mounted under the near side signal. You probably won't get a FYA unless that crossing to the splitter island was also signalized, and that seems less likely to happen without other intersection enhancements also happening.

*Side note: "Continuous right turn with caution" is a rather wordy sign. The analogous sign I've seen in these parts is "free right turn", although that's usually at stop-controlled intersections because I haven't seen a signalized setup where this is an issue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on January 29, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
This US-59 shield looks like an acorn with jowls...
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7317061,-95.3931606,3a,15y,86.49h,114.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W1HO6UqKww7-Qes-tPSwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The rest of the sign isn't anything to write home about, either. Also interesting is the sign on the right which looks like they used greenout... on brown?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 29, 2021, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 29, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
This US-59 shield looks like an acorn with jowls...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7317061,-95.3931606,3a,15y,86.49h,114.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W1HO6UqKww7-Qes-tPSwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The rest of the sign isn't anything to write home about, either. Also interesting is the sign on the right which looks like they used greenout... on brown?

Here's what these signs were originally supposed to look like (https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=File:Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png) back in 2002 when the contract to widen this section of US 59 was let:

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/thumb/5/5e/Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png/800px-Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png)

The misshapen US 59 shield and the not-quite-Clearview, not-quite-E-Modified "Express Lane" legend looks like a patch job to replace the color bands that would have gone at the top of this sign to identify it as applying to a Metro HOV lane.  (The top corners of the sign as shown in StreetView are unrounded, too.)

I'm not sure why it was judged necessary to patch over the panel for St. Thomas University in Clearview on green while leaving the one for Rice University untouched.

The 2002 plans don't include exit tabs.  I assume the ones shown in StreetView were installed when this portion of US 59 became part of I-69 and the origin point is the southern terminus of unsuffixed I-69 near Victoria, about 125 miles to the southwest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 29, 2021, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 29, 2021, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 29, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
This US-59 shield looks like an acorn with jowls...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7317061,-95.3931606,3a,15y,86.49h,114.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W1HO6UqKww7-Qes-tPSwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The rest of the sign isn't anything to write home about, either. Also interesting is the sign on the right which looks like they used greenout... on brown?

Here's what these signs were originally supposed to look like (https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=File:Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png) back in 2002 when the contract to widen this section of US 59 was let:

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/thumb/5/5e/Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png/800px-Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png)

The misshapen US 59 shield and the not-quite-Clearview, not-quite-E-Modified "Express Lane" legend looks like a patch job to replace the color bands that would have gone at the top of this sign to identify it as applying to a Metro HOV lane.  (The top corners of the sign as shown in StreetView are unrounded, too.)

I'm not sure why it was judged necessary to patch over the panel for St. Thomas University in Clearview on green while leaving the one for Rice University untouched.

The 2002 plans don't include exit tabs.  I assume the ones shown in StreetView were installed when this portion of US 59 became part of I-69 and the origin point is the southern terminus of unsuffixed I-69 near Victoria, about 125 miles to the southwest.

Looks like the patch was brown that has aged badly; comparing the two signs it looks like it was surgery to change "ST THOMAS UNIVERSITY" with "UNIVERSITY OF ST THOMAS".  The HOV lane signs in both directions did indeed have the blue and red color bands in older views.
https://goo.gl/maps/161pR4x5PN5CXdkR9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on January 29, 2021, 11:02:54 PM
Found this unusual yellow not-a-stop-sign on a one-way street in Connersville, IN today.  Shame it isn't in better shape.
(https://i.imgur.com/rdPRyjFh.jpg)

Some other interesting and unique signs from the past year:

Bardwell, KY (why not honor his memory with an apostrophe?)
(https://i.imgur.com/1BcdukGh.jpg)

Ceredo, WV (this is on private property at a railyard, but still unusual)
(https://i.imgur.com/iQl3AJXh.jpg)

And one more for the "GPS is wrong" collection from Hartford, TN.
(https://i.imgur.com/paLM42nh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 30, 2021, 01:37:01 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on January 29, 2021, 10:20:21 PMLooks like the patch was brown that has aged badly; comparing the two signs it looks like it was surgery to change "ST THOMAS UNIVERSITY" with "UNIVERSITY OF ST THOMAS".  The HOV lane signs in both directions did indeed have the blue and red color bands in older views.

https://goo.gl/maps/161pR4x5PN5CXdkR9

I think two patches are involved.  The one shown in your StreetView link is fresh, clearly color-matched, in Clearview, and says "Univeisity of St Thomas" [sic].  The more recent one corrects the spelling of "University."

I visited Houston in the winter of 2017 and have found a picture of these signs that I took from the Graustark Street overbridge at around 2 PM on February 16, when I parked my car in the neighborhood north of US 59 to avoid paying a parking fee while visiting the Museum of Fine Arts.  It shows the signs in their current configuration and confirms that the "University of St Thomas" patch had a brown background, though it was already noticeably faded even then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 30, 2021, 02:14:04 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 30, 2021, 01:37:01 PM
I think two patches are involved.  The one shown in your StreetView link is fresh, clearly color-matched, in Clearview, and says "Univeisity of St Thomas" [sic].  The more recent one corrects the spelling of "University."

That's a photo-stitching error on Google's part. (Notice that if the vertical line of the I is followed straight down, parts of every character it intersects are missing.) If you scroll back one step, the "error" goes away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 31, 2021, 12:01:18 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 29, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
This US-59 shield looks like an acorn with jowls...
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7317061,-95.3931606,3a,15y,86.49h,114.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W1HO6UqKww7-Qes-tPSwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The rest of the sign isn't anything to write home about, either. Also interesting is the sign on the right which looks like they used greenout... on brown?

Texas universities are considered recreation destinations?  At least they're honest about it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 01, 2021, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 31, 2021, 12:01:18 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 29, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
This US-59 shield looks like an acorn with jowls...
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7317061,-95.3931606,3a,15y,86.49h,114.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W1HO6UqKww7-Qes-tPSwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The rest of the sign isn't anything to write home about, either. Also interesting is the sign on the right which looks like they used greenout... on brown?

Texas universities are considered recreation destinations?  At least they're honest about it.

Well that one is. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 01, 2021, 04:58:32 PM
Another idea on road signs for roads that don't exist anymore.

Is anyone familiar with the surroundings of Suffolk County Community College in Selden, New York?

For as long as I can remember, the north end of Waverly Avenue and College Road used to have street name signs for a closed off dirt road named Highview Drive. Just so nobody here is mistaken, Highview Drive is actually a paved road in a residential area that ran south from NY 25 to a dead end south of Seminole Street in Selden. The dirt road is a continuation of that, and it used to serve as the eastern border of Suffolk County Community College. Yet that dirt portion was closed and they still had street name signs as if it were an active road. From what little I've seen of it, the road makes streets like Adirondack Drive look like a smooth, flat surface road. Sometime in the 1990's they stopped putting those signs there, stuck a chain-link fence in front of it, and let a whole bunch of vines and thorns cover up any view of it. Nevertheless, I remember walking through that path by myself once.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: STLmapboy on February 01, 2021, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 29, 2021, 09:05:46 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 29, 2021, 08:13:35 PM
This US-59 shield looks like an acorn with jowls...

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7317061,-95.3931606,3a,15y,86.49h,114.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5W1HO6UqKww7-Qes-tPSwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The rest of the sign isn't anything to write home about, either. Also interesting is the sign on the right which looks like they used greenout... on brown?

Here's what these signs were originally supposed to look like (https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=File:Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png) back in 2002 when the contract to widen this section of US 59 was let:

(https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/images/thumb/5/5e/Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png/800px-Us-59-houston-original-signs-as-of-2002.png)

The misshapen US 59 shield and the not-quite-Clearview, not-quite-E-Modified "Express Lane" legend looks like a patch job to replace the color bands that would have gone at the top of this sign to identify it as applying to a Metro HOV lane.  (The top corners of the sign as shown in StreetView are unrounded, too.)

I'm not sure why it was judged necessary to patch over the panel for St. Thomas University in Clearview on green while leaving the one for Rice University untouched.

The 2002 plans don't include exit tabs.  I assume the ones shown in StreetView were installed when this portion of US 59 became part of I-69 and the origin point is the southern terminus of unsuffixed I-69 near Victoria, about 125 miles to the southwest.
Damn, for a sign that isn't even 20 years old that one has aged horribly. Look at the peeling yellow (now orange) exit only tab.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 02, 2021, 09:50:09 AM
Do you know what I just found out? Germany has National Forest signs that look like International Yield Signs, except the outlines are green, instead of red.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2012-05-13_Bannwald_Hofstatt_1.jpg

I kind of like those, but they can't be everywhere. For us, I'll stick to the big wooden inverted trapezoids.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on February 02, 2021, 12:54:41 PM
On this advance street name sign, the lines are reversed. The roads name is Little Deer Creek Valley Road, but the sign shop reversed the lines.

(https://i.imgur.com/LLS2KEu.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 02, 2021, 01:31:05 PM
A Stop Ahead sign, except the symbol actually has the word "STOP" written on it.

(https://i.ibb.co/Px7Whch/75226192-E1-B4-448-E-B413-17-EFCF017-E67-1-201-a.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 03, 2021, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.

MA 146 through Douglas a second time...

OpenStreetMap: About 250 feet southbound, but if you're going northbound, you have to be on the left half of the roadway.
Google Maps search: Southbound only, and you have to be in the southbound lanes.
Google Maps by clicking points: Doesn't quite enter the shoulder, so therefore not at all.
Bing Maps: Doesn't seem to understand that Massachusetts is divided into towns, not villages.
Apple Maps: By using "drop pin", it thinks that entire corner is in Uxbridge, not Douglas, even ignoring that nearby West St. becomes Uxbridge St. for a short distance.

Can someone provide a definitive answer on whether MA 146 enters Douglas twice?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on February 03, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.

Eh, that's just Jersey town lines being ridiculous. Ever drive up NJ 31? You go through Hopewell, then Pennington, then Hopewell...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DrSmith on February 03, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: J3ebrules on February 03, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.

Eh, that's just Jersey town lines being ridiculous. Ever drive up NJ 31? You go through Hopewell, then Pennington, then Hopewell...

The Mass Pike has a stretch of Natick-Wayland-Natick-Wayland-Natick. There are plenty of other places were routes cross at least between short distances of a town. Route 202 has a Shutesbury-New Salem-Shutesbury-New Salem stretch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 11:46:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.

MA 146 through Douglas a second time...

OpenStreetMap: About 250 feet southbound, but if you're going northbound, you have to be on the left half of the roadway.
Google Maps search: Southbound only, and you have to be in the southbound lanes.
Google Maps by clicking points: Doesn't quite enter the shoulder, so therefore not at all.
Bing Maps: Doesn't seem to understand that Massachusetts is divided into towns, not villages.
Apple Maps: By using "drop pin", it thinks that entire corner is in Uxbridge, not Douglas, even ignoring that nearby West St. becomes Uxbridge St. for a short distance.
Can someone provide a definitive answer on whether MA 146 enters Douglas twice?

Hard to tell, but I'm going to say no, mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance (see Milville by the RI line and Northbridge at exit 5). However, it appears that only the right southbound lane may enter Douglas just south of exit 4 (either that lane or the SB breakdown lane). Either way, I'm saying no.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:12:14 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.

Must be different between roads, since Sutton is signed on both entries on 146. Links below may function wrong, on mobile currently.

Between exits 4 and 5:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HoQuXJAiWVFkbEwq7

At exit 5:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/kQpNts3ddXAdQpQ36
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bob7374 on February 03, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.
New signage that has gone up on the Mass Pike seems to mark every town line. I have photos of the town lines signs traveling west from I-95 in Weston. Over about a 3 miles distance you first you see a sign for entering Natick, then Wayland, then Natick again, then Wayland again, then Natick again just before the MA 30 exit, then Framingham.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 03, 2021, 09:17:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.
Is it REALLY that short, or is that just where they placed the sign given that the road just crossed the river from PA?

I-81 SB has one that's actually that short (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4664056,-76.1187944,3a,28.8y,196.31h,86.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spmwabmaFBnb4mGWGgR2Bbg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (no, we're not in Orleans County, NY really does have two Towns of Albion and a Village).  For bonus points, I-81 doesn't spend all that long in the Town of Mexico either before these signs occur.  Three town line signs in less than half a mile (only SB too... NB goes straight from Albion to Richland without passing through Mexico; you could say that I-81 goes from Canada to Mexico but not the reverse).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 04, 2021, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on February 03, 2021, 06:19:28 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 03, 2021, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on February 03, 2021, 06:00:01 PM
mainly because MA does sign "entering <town>" when the road is in a town for a short distance

Things might be different when it enters a town twice. I-93 clearly and unambiguously enters Tewksbury twice, but it's only signed once.
New signage that has gone up on the Mass Pike seems to mark every town line. I have photos of the town lines signs traveling west from I-95 in Weston. Over about a 3 miles distance you first you see a sign for entering Natick, then Wayland, then Natick again, then Wayland again, then Natick again just before the MA 30 exit, then Framingham.
I've always thought the signs going back and forth between Shutesbury and New Salem on US 202 were interesting...insofar that someone really wanted them to be there.

And, of course, there's the single Clarksburg/North Adams sign on the interior of the hairpin turn on MA 2.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on February 06, 2021, 06:54:52 PM
This sign is peak Rhode Island. I would argue that it checks each of the good, bad, and ugly boxes.
(https://i.imgur.com/XH9DLls.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
I had to go to Alexandria yesterday and while I was stopped at a red light on a service road I noticed this peculiar sign on King Street at North Dearing Street. I found myself wondering how many problems they had with people turning incorrectly to necessitate this. Turning like the sign shows seems blindingly obvious.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/340f1e611556abb575ec6f69ab8df412.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 07, 2021, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
I had to go to Alexandria yesterday and while I was stopped at a red light on a service road I noticed this peculiar sign on King Street at North Dearing Street. I found myself wondering how many problems they had with people turning incorrectly to necessitate this. Turning like the sign shows seems blindingly obvious.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/340f1e611556abb575ec6f69ab8df412.jpg)

Same sign also exists in Arlington. This intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/qGC1fx66Tz3auKLH6) (where Veitch, Clarendon and Wilson meet) in Court House for instance.

The sign is necessary because, with wider intersections, sometimes you'll see people turn behind each other instead. At this intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/Q2wcHcasJyX71BMc7) in Vancouver, BC, for example.

The intersection in Alexandria is not as wide as that Vancouver example, so I'd think drivers would normally turn in front of each other anyways. But maybe they were having some issues at one point. The median does extend further into the intersection than would normally be comfortable for turning in front of each other, so drivers may have started turning behind each other.

At certain intersections in the UK, arrows actually force you to turn behind each other. This is to improve sightlines for drivers turning across traffic. There is certainly a benefit to it, although you have to be cautious not to block the intersection while waiting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on February 10, 2021, 07:13:54 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2021, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 07, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
I had to go to Alexandria yesterday and while I was stopped at a red light on a service road I noticed this peculiar sign on King Street at North Dearing Street. I found myself wondering how many problems they had with people turning incorrectly to necessitate this. Turning like the sign shows seems blindingly obvious.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210207/340f1e611556abb575ec6f69ab8df412.jpg)

Same sign also exists in Arlington. This intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/qGC1fx66Tz3auKLH6) (where Veitch, Clarendon and Wilson meet) in Court House for instance.

The sign is necessary because, with wider intersections, sometimes you'll see people turn behind each other instead. At this intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/Q2wcHcasJyX71BMc7) in Vancouver, BC, for example.

The intersection in Alexandria is not as wide as that Vancouver example, so I'd think drivers would normally turn in front of each other anyways. But maybe they were having some issues at one point. The median does extend further into the intersection than would normally be comfortable for turning in front of each other, so drivers may have started turning behind each other.

At certain intersections in the UK, arrows actually force you to turn behind each other. This is to improve sightlines for drivers turning across traffic. There is certainly a benefit to it, although you have to be cautious not to block the intersection while waiting.

There are other ways of handling the wide median problem.  Here, there are markings on the ground to guide people to begin making the turn when they are in the center:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.095157,-118.1520597,3a,75y,333.13h,80.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sznl-SpsvJRMhWaW8s-N-Fg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It seems that the L.A. practice, on wide medians, is to have cars turn in front of each other where there is a left turn lane, but to turn behind each other when there is no left turn lane.  The double yellow line here would seem to require turning behind each other to make the left from Barrington to San Vicente:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.053594,-118.4655408,3a,75y,287.73h,70.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swjcrECfmx0E0UeskkYIvjA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It operates as though it were two separate intersections, spaced close together, with the two directions of San Vicente behaving like a one way couplet.  One nice feature is that there is a brief lagging left phase, for both directions of the Barrington to San Vicente turn, that will facilitate intersection clearance, for those who are trapped in the intersection waiting for a gap to turn left.  Using 3M signals, so that only cars within the intersection will still see the green and green arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 11, 2021, 06:10:18 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 02, 2021, 01:31:05 PM
A Stop Ahead sign, except the symbol actually has the word "STOP" written on it.

(https://i.ibb.co/Px7Whch/75226192-E1-B4-448-E-B413-17-EFCF017-E67-1-201-a.jpg)
I know of another one:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stop_Ahead_Symbol_Sign_(with_Words).jpg
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Stop_Ahead_Symbol_Sign_%28with_Words%29.jpg/640px-Stop_Ahead_Symbol_Sign_%28with_Words%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on February 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 13, 2021, 08:54:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.

MA officially has no truck routes (or any bannered routes at all; alternates are in the form of 1A, 2A, etc.), but there's still a Truck 114 posted in I believe Peabody.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 13, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.

I'm guessing the intent is to indicate that trucks must continue straight toward 495, not that there is a separate truck Route 495.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 13, 2021, 02:00:20 PM
So it should be a 'TRUCK ROUTE' sign instead of a 'TRUCK' sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 13, 2021, 02:58:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 13, 2021, 02:00:20 PM
So it should be a 'TRUCK ROUTE' sign instead of a 'TRUCK' sign?

I think so.  Something like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/wU35uCu.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 13, 2021, 09:03:06 PM
Stop "please":

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4923252,-70.8580926,3a,75y,97.01h,83.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn6LfHlKIsBmLA8z6U_H5Aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

(Marblehead, MA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on February 13, 2021, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2021, 09:03:06 PM
Stop "please":

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4923252,-70.8580926,3a,75y,97.01h,83.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn6LfHlKIsBmLA8z6U_H5Aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

(Marblehead, MA)

I remember for a long time Marblehead had PLEASE atop speed limit signs especially entering town. (https://goo.gl/maps/PQHiTGwALjD6nJon8)  They seem to have finally started to die off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 14, 2021, 07:02:25 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/26513361299/in/photostream/

Terrible patch job.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/26513361299_375c18c45d_5k.jpg)

should have used the same size shield as the one it replaced.  However, at least they finally got the akwardness of the two SR 39 alignments settled
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on February 14, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.

I was just in Pittsburgh this past week, and saw one of these when getting on I-376 heading towards the Turnpike. Merging in Pittsburgh is quite the adventure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 14, 2021, 11:23:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!

Also at that intersection, There is signage for both US-101 NORTH and US-101 WEST!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 14, 2021, 11:26:22 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 13, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.


I'm guessing the intent is to indicate that trucks must continue straight toward 495, not that there is a separate truck Route 495.






This is on the ramp from the Pulaski Skyway to Tonelle Avenue which allows no trucks as there is a ban on trucks the length of the skyway.   The first entrance to US 1 & 9 north for trucks would be at the intersection ahead, so no truck could ever see this unless you have a dumb driver who follows the GPS for cars like the one who got stuck on the Merit Parkway in CT ignoring the large sign stating that his vehicle is not permitted there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on February 14, 2021, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2021, 08:54:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2021, 08:48:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YKwfmgCXNt9nqAXH6

There is no Truck NJ Route 495.  Yet this assembly states that there is along UA 1 & 9 in Jersey City.

MA officially has no truck routes (or any bannered routes at all; alternates are in the form of 1A, 2A, etc.), but there's still a Truck 114 posted in I believe Peabody.

Use to have something similar for 62 in Burlington (eastbound Bedford St, northbound 3A back to 62) but those signs are all gone now. Don't know when they were taken down but GSV back to 2007 shows them missing already.

This is how the 114 one is signed...
E/B, https://goo.gl/maps/wgU2aFW3byHoReZt6
W/B, it's signed well before the intersection, https://goo.gl/maps/JpLpAvMo6e4VGK1X9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on February 14, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!

And all those white bollards... I wonder if access to Hartsook St was closed off before, during , or after the ramps being opened. Each ramp being able to go left, right, or straight.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 14, 2021, 02:13:51 PM
Yeah, that looks like an accommodation because of the blocked street. I would bet the turning movements were more restricted prior.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 14, 2021, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 14, 2021, 11:23:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!

Also at that intersection, There is signage for both US-101 NORTH and US-101 WEST!

This is an unusual configuration–I've never seen something like this before.

The bigger question to me is that these ramps are right in the middle of a clearly residential area. So why do any of the ramps exist in the first place? It seems like you wouldn't want to have freeway ramps exit right into a neighborhood, especially since it's over half a mile (with several stop signs at that) to the nearest major road, Ventura Blvd. I can kinda see that maybe it's a way for I-405 SB traffic to get to Ventura Blvd–there's a slip exit on the SB US 101 to SB I-405 merge that is I-405 SB is blocked from using–but that doesn't seem to be signed in any way. Maybe there's historical context I'm not aware of...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 15, 2021, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on February 14, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.

I was just in Pittsburgh this past week, and saw one of these when getting on I-376 heading towards the Turnpike. Merging in Pittsburgh is quite the adventure.
I had to zoom out and play around with the thing just to see what MCRoads was talking about. That link was like having your face directly on the pavement!


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on February 15, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 15, 2021, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on February 14, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.

I was just in Pittsburgh this past week, and saw one of these when getting on I-376 heading towards the Turnpike. Merging in Pittsburgh is quite the adventure.
I had to zoom out and play around with the thing just to see what MCRoads was talking about. That link was like having your face directly on the pavement!

Yeah, I am not sure how these links work, but sometimes they work better than others.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 15, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 15, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 15, 2021, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on February 14, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 12, 2021, 04:20:31 PM
Here is one for you guys:

https://goo.gl/maps/QzLSUgMyJ6AEEzxr7

This sign tells you all you need to know about driving in Pittsburgh.

I was just in Pittsburgh this past week, and saw one of these when getting on I-376 heading towards the Turnpike. Merging in Pittsburgh is quite the adventure.
I had to zoom out and play around with the thing just to see what MCRoads was talking about. That link was like having your face directly on the pavement!

Yeah, I am not sure how these links work, but sometimes they work better than others.

I think it's desktop/laptop (works) vs. mobile (points at ground).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 15, 2021, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 15, 2021, 12:20:29 PMI think it's desktop/laptop (works) vs. mobile (points at ground).

I don't think that's the reason, or at any rate all of it--I'm on a laptop and got pavement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 15, 2021, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 15, 2021, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 15, 2021, 12:20:29 PMI think it's desktop/laptop (works) vs. mobile (points at ground).

I don't think that's the reason, or at any rate all of it--I'm on a laptop and got pavement.

Desktop/mobile of whoever created the link, not of your own device.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 15, 2021, 01:12:53 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 15, 2021, 12:39:26 PM

Quote from: J N Winkler on February 15, 2021, 12:30:26 PM

Quote from: 1 on February 15, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
I think it's desktop/laptop (works) vs. mobile (points at ground).

I don't think that's the reason, or at any rate all of it--I'm on a laptop and got pavement.

Desktop/mobile of whoever created the link, not of your own device.

Correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on February 15, 2021, 06:02:34 PM
Quote from: roadfro on February 14, 2021, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 14, 2021, 11:23:09 AM
Quote from: kphoger on February 14, 2021, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: mrsman on February 14, 2021, 10:53:34 AM
Both lanes may turn both ways:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1640019,-118.4749181,3a,75y,262.9h,76.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6dkxuUqko1_haPlhLk31Gw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US 101 exit onto Haskell Ave in Sherman Oaks, CA (Los Angeles).  Both NB and SB exits bring you to the same point.  For LA, this is one of the lowest volume exits on a freeway, probably the lowest in the SFV.  Still, this could be somewhat dangerous.  It seems as though they should probably remove one of the exits.

Whoa, trippy!

Also at that intersection, There is signage for both US-101 NORTH and US-101 WEST!

This is an unusual configuration–I've never seen something like this before.

The bigger question to me is that these ramps are right in the middle of a clearly residential area. So why do any of the ramps exist in the first place? It seems like you wouldn't want to have freeway ramps exit right into a neighborhood, especially since it's over half a mile (with several stop signs at that) to the nearest major road, Ventura Blvd. I can kinda see that maybe it's a way for I-405 SB traffic to get to Ventura Blvd–there's a slip exit on the SB US 101 to SB I-405 merge that is I-405 SB is blocked from using–but that doesn't seem to be signed in any way. Maybe there's historical context I'm not aware of...

I'll try to answer as best as I can, but there are some real experts on CA highway history who frequent the Pac SW forum may have additional information.

First, the direction of US 101.  US 101 nationally, as well as statewide in CA, is N/S and officially it is N/S.  Caltrans signs will use north/south exclusively.  US 101 is also known as the Ventura Freeway.  The Ventura Freeway is basically E/W in compass direction.  CA 134 is also part of the Ventura Freeway and the full Ventura Freeway from I-210/CA-134 interchange in Pasadena to the city of Ventura is absolutely E-W.  So it is also appropriate to note the on-ramp as being an on-ramp to the westbound Ventura Freeway, and historically there were signs that said this, but would largely leave out the 101 shield since it would be confusing (WB Ventura Fwy, but NB US 101?). 

To my chagrin, and probably many other CA-native roadgeeks, Caltrans is deemphasizing the historic names of the freeways and replacing the names with the numbers alone.  So they (generally) do not refer to the freeway as the Ventura Fwy, but rather solely as the 101.  The use of the definite article "the" is absolutely a common idiom in Southern CA, and it makes sense as a direct replacement of "the Ventura Freeway" with "the 101".  (This idiom does generally irk people who are not native to SoCal.  As I now live in MD, I am pretty good in not using "the" for some of the local highways like I-95 and I-270, but US 101, will always be "the 101" to me.)

OK, so if you have some signs with Ventura Fwy west, and you take away "Ventura Fwy" you are left with just west.  What do you replace it with, US 101 of course!  So you do get to see plenty of signs that also say US 101 East/West, most of those are created by the city of Los Angeles.  You will see plenty of those signs around:

Example:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1592295,-118.4486466,3a,75y,203.42h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFp4XYHYvaIeBtmrYkgiemw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

(IIRC the US 101 shield was added later to the sign, but it clearly uses E/W directions)

Second issue Hartsook Street.  At one time, Hartsook St did connect to this intersection.  THe white posts and the trees were designed to prevent thru traffic from the off ramps into the neighborhood.  When that occurred and waht the old directions were on the off-ramps, I do not recall.

Third issue residential neighborhood.  There are plenty of off-ramps and on-ramps on residential streets in the LA area.  The ramps were put in where it was feasible to put them in, and probably to reduce right of way acquisition.  In fact, there was also a nearby on-ramp as well to the US 101 SB, but that was removed years ago.

See:  https://cahighways.org/wordpress/?p=8768

Here's an example of an existing off-ramp to Melrose Ave from US 101 SB.  It dumps you onto a residential street, Ardmore Ave.  No plans to close this exit, to my knowledge.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0851165,-118.3016886,3a,75y,181.51h,78.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfaqoowSP04kluyh7mXSwCg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

My guess is that this interchange was place here due to the 405 construction.  The 101 is the older of the two freeways.  There are currently EB on ramp and WB off ramps to Sepulveda Blvd, but likely there was a full diamond here prior to the construction of I-405. 
I suppose the Haskell onramps and offramps were constructed to maintain access to the 101 (especially WB) for the local area.  As it is, given the current configuration of ramps, SB I-405 traffic cannot easily reach Ventura Blvd.  Only EB US 101 traffic to the 405 SB transition road can reach the exit onto Ventura Blvd and SHerman Oaks Ave near the Marriott.  If you are on SB 405, I guess you take US 101 west to Haskell and take that to Ventura.  Unfortunately, the presence of this exit and entrance means that you have very little distance if you take that SB 405 to WB 101 ramp to actually merge onto the 101.  It is too short for such an important freeway to freeway move.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEVIN_224 on February 15, 2021, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 03, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/8MWwkVdfP6dACKCP9

This is got to be the shortest distance through a town ever.  Enter Phillipsburg, and then go a very short distance and enter a new community.

I-84 at the Connecticut/Massachusetts state line: You go through maybe a couple hundred feet of Holland in Hampden Coounty, then hit the town line for Sturbridge in Worcester County. In about 10 seconds, it's Union, CT...Holland, MA...Sturbridge, MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on February 16, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
I made a post in Pac SW asking more about the 101/Haskell interchange here:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=28546.msg2572851#msg2572851

As always, more nuggets of highway history have been added by the local posters there.

I did want to add that about 5 miles south, there was a long time exit to another local street, I-405 to Waterford St.  This exit was there from the freeway's construction but was removed about 10 years ago, largely due to the complaints of traffic by people in the neighborhood.  Waterford is a particularly hard entrance/exit to reach and required a lot of meandering in a local neighborhood, which is probably why Caltrans removed first the off-ramp and then the on-ramp over the years. 

With enough complaints by the local Sherman Oaks/Encino populace perhaps they can close Haskell Ave ramps as well.  IMO, the ramps aren't really necessary as the general area can be reached by other --

a) off-ramps: US 101 SB to Balboa, US 101 SB to I-405 and then to Ventura Blvd, US 101 SB to Van Nuys, US 101 NB to Sepulveda, US 101 NB to Hayvenhurst, 405 NB to Ventura or Burbank, 405 SB to Burbank or Valley Vista

and b) on-ramps: US 101 north from Balboa, US 101 north from Van Nuys, 405 S to 101 N from Burbank Blvd, 405 N to 101 N from Sepulveda/Greenleaf just south of Ventura

Of all of these, especially if the ultimate destination is the corner of Haskell and Ventura, the  405 SB off ramp to Valley Vista is the closest.  You can make a right turn there and Valley Vista will lead you directly to Hakell.  Likewise, the closest on-ramp would be at Sepulveda/Greenleaf and allows traffic onto both directions of 101 as well as 405 NB.

Plus, if the Haskell offramps were removed, there might be a chance to make it easier to merge from 405SB to 101 NB.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 16, 2021, 05:16:12 PM
Though Alabama's ARCD shields are pretty neat altogether, this particular assembly is on the only solo part of I-22 that is not concurrent with US 78 near Coalburg, AL.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50951226582_294e37d01e_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 16, 2021, 06:59:49 PM
New Mexico:

In a dust storm (https://goo.gl/maps/yKuDbr9JP8EpAAmW9)

Pull off roadway (https://goo.gl/maps/Tauxx2KXhyJVesF4A)

Turn vehicle off (https://goo.gl/maps/DrYHxdLmmravYXio8)

Feet off breaks (https://goo.gl/maps/jLy7SaHbzR2nMaTs8)

Stay buckled (https://goo.gl/maps/qMQD5UerL9R4Cf54A)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 16, 2021, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 16, 2021, 06:59:49 PM
New Mexico:

In a dust storm (https://goo.gl/maps/yKuDbr9JP8EpAAmW9)

Pull off roadway (https://goo.gl/maps/Tauxx2KXhyJVesF4A)

Turn vehicle off (https://goo.gl/maps/DrYHxdLmmravYXio8)

Feet off breaks (https://goo.gl/maps/jLy7SaHbzR2nMaTs8)

Stay buckled (https://goo.gl/maps/qMQD5UerL9R4Cf54A)

(https://i0.wp.com/roaminangels.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/route-66-burma-shave-41.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on February 16, 2021, 10:40:03 PM
i don't know that this is good... or ugly.. but it seems 'bad' to me.

https://goo.gl/maps/yuYMyr2J1FXuePcJ7 (https://goo.gl/maps/yuYMyr2J1FXuePcJ7)

the road we're on is us 50, just east of canon city. the sign in question is the 'be prepared to stop when flashing'. this road is speed limit 65...  looking at where this sign is in relation to the intersection, its a tough trick to stop, especially if you're right at the sign when it goes on. it will start flashing a few seconds before the light changes to yellow. this is apparently about to happen, since we can see its flashing. a lot of intersections on this road have really long skidmarks before them. this seems to be a older picture, since the last time i was through here,the light had the FYA for the left turn.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 17, 2021, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 16, 2021, 10:40:03 PM
i don't know that this is good... or ugly.. but it seems 'bad' to me.

https://goo.gl/maps/yuYMyr2J1FXuePcJ7 (https://goo.gl/maps/yuYMyr2J1FXuePcJ7)

the road we're on is us 50, just east of canon city. the sign in question is the 'be prepared to stop when flashing'. this road is speed limit 65...  looking at where this sign is in relation to the intersection, its a tough trick to stop, especially if you're right at the sign when it goes on. it will start flashing a few seconds before the light changes to yellow. this is apparently about to happen, since we can see its flashing. a lot of intersections on this road have really long skidmarks before them. this seems to be a older picture, since the last time i was through here,the light had the FYA for the left turn.

Looks fine to me.  The MUTCD calls for 475 feet, and I measure it to be approximately 742 feet on Google Maps.

(https://i.imgur.com/k51S4gL.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 17, 2021, 10:01:49 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 16, 2021, 06:59:49 PM
New Mexico:

In a dust storm (https://goo.gl/maps/yKuDbr9JP8EpAAmW9)

Pull off roadway (https://goo.gl/maps/Tauxx2KXhyJVesF4A)

Turn vehicle off (https://goo.gl/maps/DrYHxdLmmravYXio8)

Feet off breaks (https://goo.gl/maps/jLy7SaHbzR2nMaTs8)

Stay buckled (https://goo.gl/maps/qMQD5UerL9R4Cf54A)

Actually this one is pretty tame for New Mexico.  When traveling I-10 west across New Mexico, they get so often that it gets silly.  I said to my wife, "What do we do in a dust storm?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on February 17, 2021, 03:03:47 PM
Part of one series of New Mexico dust storm warnings that existed on I-10 back in 2003 can be found on this page:

https://www.teresco.org/pics/az-20030912-14/14/i10nm.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 17, 2021, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

No comma.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: webny99 on February 17, 2021, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Actually, if there was a vertical line between Detroit and Chicago, I wouldn't mind that at all. You could even put EAST in one top corner and WEST in the other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 17, 2021, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 17, 2021, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Actually, if there was a vertical line between Detroit and Chicago, I wouldn't mind that at all. You could even put EAST in one top corner and WEST in the other.

This also ties into another thread about control cities skipping entire states. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 17, 2021, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Actually, if there was a vertical line between Detroit and Chicago, I wouldn't mind that at all. You could even put EAST in one top corner and WEST in the other.
Something like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9165158,-76.9322659,3a,22.1y,0.2h,97.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sx_UIcZQO3CVn_uH_lGrBCg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dx_UIcZQO3CVn_uH_lGrBCg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D104.26909%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is what I thought of - as it stands, it seems Detroit and Chicago have merged into one supermegalopolis.

And while we're at it, have I found some distant relative to David Bowie? (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0512154,-76.8415197,3a,21.1y,19.16h,99.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3D0pypfWzPE7fW8art3zaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on February 17, 2021, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Typically, MDOT uses a hyphen (-) to separate control cities (or destinations) in opposite directions of travel. In this case, it should read "Detroit - Chicago". I also never understood why MDOT uses "Chicago" for the westbound control city. Cities such as Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor / St. Joseph would be sufficient to use while within Michigan. The same goes for eastbound travel where MDOT uses "Detroit" for the entire I-94 corridor into Detroit, with a few exceptions.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 17, 2021, 09:21:23 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on February 17, 2021, 08:53:50 PM
I also never understood why MDOT uses "Chicago" for the westbound control city. Cities such as Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor / St. Joseph would be sufficient to use while within Michigan. The same goes for eastbound travel where MDOT uses "Detroit" for the entire I-94 corridor into Detroit, with a few exceptions.

Interestingly, most interchange signage between Marshall and Ann Arbor shows Marshall, Jackson, and Ann Arbor as controls.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on February 17, 2021, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Looks like the Clearviewizing of the sign that I got a photo of in 2007 for Steve's M-39 page (https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/mi/m-39/) didn't change the layout of the sign at all!  Although the cute MICH state name is gone from the I-94 shield now. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 18, 2021, 09:45:42 AM
Quote from: rellis97 on February 17, 2021, 08:53:50 PM

Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

it should read "Detroit - Chicago".

Yep!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on February 18, 2021, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 16, 2021, 06:59:49 PM
New Mexico:

In a dust storm (https://goo.gl/maps/yKuDbr9JP8EpAAmW9)

Pull off roadway (https://goo.gl/maps/Tauxx2KXhyJVesF4A)

Turn vehicle off (https://goo.gl/maps/DrYHxdLmmravYXio8)

Feet off breaks (https://goo.gl/maps/jLy7SaHbzR2nMaTs8)

Stay buckled (https://goo.gl/maps/qMQD5UerL9R4Cf54A)

Well, that is an interesting idea. I had no idea that is what you are supposed to do. I always thought that it would just be like a dens fog, but brown. Do they really get to the point where you can't drive?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 18, 2021, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 18, 2021, 02:14:14 PM
Well, that is an interesting idea. I had no idea that is what you are supposed to do. I always thought that it would just be like a dens fog, but brown. Do they really get to the point where you can't drive?

Yes.  I can only imagine trying to maintain highway speeds through a dust storm.  See below for my experience in a Mexican dust storm.

Quote from: kphoger on June 13, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
Driving through a dust storm (shortly after driving right through the middle of a dust devil) on the way to Ganivete.  It was worse than a blizzard, especially since I couldn't watch for obstacles on the road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1092.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fi410%2Fkphoger%2FMexico_6.png&hash=28295f6af3a67f1d365e14fc8b13b6aece32b2d2)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 18, 2021, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on February 18, 2021, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 16, 2021, 06:59:49 PM
New Mexico:

In a dust storm (https://goo.gl/maps/yKuDbr9JP8EpAAmW9)

Pull off roadway (https://goo.gl/maps/Tauxx2KXhyJVesF4A)

Turn vehicle off (https://goo.gl/maps/DrYHxdLmmravYXio8)

Feet off breaks (https://goo.gl/maps/jLy7SaHbzR2nMaTs8)

Stay buckled (https://goo.gl/maps/qMQD5UerL9R4Cf54A)

Yes.  I got into one once that was so bad I couldn't see past the front end of the vehicle.  I had to stop.  Luckily I was north of Roswell which was pretty desolate so I wasn't worried about being rear ended by someone else in the dust storm. 

Well, that is an interesting idea. I had no idea that is what you are supposed to do. I always thought that it would just be like a dens fog, but brown. Do they really get to the point where you can't drive?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 18, 2021, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on February 17, 2021, 08:53:50 PM
I also never understood why MDOT uses "Chicago" for the westbound control city. Cities such as Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor / St. Joseph would be sufficient to use while within Michigan. The same goes for eastbound travel where MDOT uses "Detroit" for the entire I-94 corridor into Detroit, with a few exceptions.

As someone who lives in the Chicagoland area, it is incredible how powerful Chicago as a control city really is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 18, 2021, 11:26:16 PM
Quote from: webny99 on February 17, 2021, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Actually, if there was a vertical line between Detroit and Chicago, I wouldn't mind that at all. You could even put EAST in one top corner and WEST in the other.

As noted above, MUTCD standard (not just MDOT standard) would be a spaced hyphen ("Detroit - Chicago"). British standard (which OTA uses on at least one sign) would be a comma ("Detroit, Chicago"), and I believe Quebec would use a bullet ("Detroit ⬤ Chicago").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on February 19, 2021, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Is it just me, or did the letters a, g, and o seem slimmer than the "Chic"  part? It's like they ran out of white halfway and had to skimp on the letter thickness.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 19, 2021, 12:08:08 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on February 19, 2021, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Is it just me, or did the letters a, g, and o seem slimmer than the "Chic"  part? It's like they ran out of white halfway and had to skimp on the letter thickness.

The sun is directly behind the camera–you're seeing the effects of halation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 19, 2021, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: rellis97 on February 17, 2021, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Typically, MDOT uses a hyphen (-) to separate control cities (or destinations) in opposite directions of travel. In this case, it should read "Detroit - Chicago". I also never understood why MDOT uses "Chicago" for the westbound control city. Cities such as Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo, Benton Harbor / St. Joseph would be sufficient to use while within Michigan. The same goes for eastbound travel where MDOT uses "Detroit" for the entire I-94 corridor into Detroit, with a few exceptions.

Don't forget that Indiana also uses Detroit as the control city for I-94 East.  So at least MDOT remains consistent through the corridor.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 19, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 19, 2021, 12:08:08 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on February 19, 2021, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Is it just me, or did the letters a, g, and o seem slimmer than the "Chic"  part? It's like they ran out of white halfway and had to skimp on the letter thickness.

The sun is directly behind the camera–you're seeing the effects of halation.

Which is what Clearview was supposed to put an end to, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 19, 2021, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 19, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 19, 2021, 12:08:08 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on February 19, 2021, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Is it just me, or did the letters a, g, and o seem slimmer than the "Chic"  part? It's like they ran out of white halfway and had to skimp on the letter thickness.

The sun is directly behind the camera–you're seeing the effects of halation.

Which is what Clearview was supposed to put an end to, right?

The only way to put an end to halation is to stop using high-intensity retroreflective sheeting. And that's not going to happen.

Clearview was designed with larger counter spaces (holes in the letters) so that even with the effects of halation, the spaces should theoretically remain open. With Series E(M), the counter spaces are small enough that they get washed out by halation. EEM has larger counter spaces than E(M) does, which is why it performs at least as well as Clearview does.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on February 20, 2021, 08:28:39 PM
Apparently, this sign can be found on a hiking trail in Glendale, CA:

https://i.redd.it/0pc5t1xuggi61.jpg

Thread here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/lniz6k/hiking_trail_sign_in_glendale/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 20, 2021, 11:49:11 PM
Saw a picture of this sign on a TV news story's Facebook thumbnail, so I went to the KYTC Photolog to get this picture. There are several signs for KY 2632 in this font along the route and its intersecting routes. This is just off US 231 in Warren County, not far from Bowling Green.

(https://roadview-images.kytc.ky.gov/Van1_Mandli_Data_5/11-03-2016/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/Right/Dir_000/R_00025.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 21, 2021, 06:59:43 AM
Miles is supposed to be plural.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50965040042_8b2ccc44ef_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 21, 2021, 09:04:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 20, 2021, 11:49:11 PM
Saw a picture of this sign on a TV news story's Facebook thumbnail, so I went to the KYTC Photolog to get this picture. There are several signs for KY 2632 in this font along the route and its intersecting routes. This is just off US 231 in Warren County, not far from Bowling Green.

(https://roadview-images.kytc.ky.gov/Van1_Mandli_Data_5/11-03-2016/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/Right/Dir_000/R_00025.jpg)

Mmm, gotta love that Arialveticverstesk in the morning.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 22, 2021, 05:32:36 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 20, 2021, 11:49:11 PM
Saw a picture of this sign on a TV news story's Facebook thumbnail, so I went to the KYTC Photolog to get this picture. There are several signs for KY 2632 in this font along the route and its intersecting routes. This is just off US 231 in Warren County, not far from Bowling Green.

(https://roadview-images.kytc.ky.gov/Van1_Mandli_Data_5/11-03-2016/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/Right/Dir_000/R_00025.jpg)

If you told me it was a prop for a movie in New Jersey, I would almost believe it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 22, 2021, 08:46:10 AM
Interesting that the 128.0 Mile post I-70 in MO is one mile away from the exit that has its number.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50951118128_380a77d350_4k.jpg)

Autocorrect again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 22, 2021, 03:01:53 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 22, 2021, 08:46:10 AM
128.0 Mike piston I-70

Swype much?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2021, 07:27:29 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 22, 2021, 05:32:36 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 20, 2021, 11:49:11 PM
Saw a picture of this sign on a TV news story's Facebook thumbnail, so I went to the KYTC Photolog to get this picture. There are several signs for KY 2632 in this font along the route and its intersecting routes. This is just off US 231 in Warren County, not far from Bowling Green.

(https://roadview-images.kytc.ky.gov/Van1_Mandli_Data_5/11-03-2016/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/2016_V2_114-KY-2632W/Right/Dir_000/R_00025.jpg)

If you told me it was a prop for a movie in New Jersey, I would almost believe it.

From WandaVision (airing right now on Disney+), which takes place in the fictional village of Westview, New Jersey:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50974868402_6f85274711_o.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 23, 2021, 08:52:22 PM
Amazing that they got the black background of the route marker right when everything else about the sign is wrong.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 23, 2021, 08:57:45 PM
Okay, where is the exit actually located?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 23, 2021, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 23, 2021, 08:52:22 PM
Amazing that they got the black background of the route marker right when everything else about the sign is wrong.

Remarkably good attention to detail...apart from almost everything. But the black background is like +1000 points so maybe it's okay.

Quote from: 1 on February 23, 2021, 08:57:45 PM
Okay, where is the exit actually located?


  • I don't recognize the plate style of the foreground car, but the background car looks like an authentic New Jersey plate. Of course, this could be part of the show and not reality.
  • The gore sign has no exit number.

I would bet somewhere in Georgia. The show is primarily filmed on sets in California and Georgia, but what I see looks nothing like any freeways in California.

The plate is a SWORD plate (Avengers-universe thing).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on February 23, 2021, 09:56:55 PM
This thread just got over a million views!!  :-o
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 24, 2021, 09:35:40 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 23, 2021, 08:52:22 PM
Amazing that they got the black background of the route marker right when everything else about the sign is wrong.

The arrow looks okay, although the placement is obviously terrible.

Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2021, 09:49:54 PM
I would bet somewhere in Georgia. The show is primarily filmed on sets in California and Georgia, but what I see looks nothing like any freeways in California.

I actually don't think so. If you squint closely, the exit gore sign in the background kinda looks like it's in Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 24, 2021, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 23, 2021, 09:49:54 PM

Quote from: 1 on February 23, 2021, 08:57:45 PM
Okay, where is the exit actually located?


  • I don't recognize the plate style of the foreground car, but the background car looks like an authentic New Jersey plate. Of course, this could be part of the show and not reality.
  • The gore sign has no exit number.

I would bet somewhere in Georgia. The show is primarily filmed on sets in California and Georgia, but what I see looks nothing like any freeways in California.

The plate is a SWORD plate (Avengers-universe thing).

I'm not sure if you're onto something there, or if you're leading us all astray in the location hunt.  The yellow warning signs first appeared to me like they might be "BRIDGE ICES BEFORE ROAD" signs, similar to those visible here (https://goo.gl/maps/cjuyutyzmxLpGPph9).  But then I noticed the Yield signs on the opposite on-ramp:  does Georgia even use those?

One key to identifying the location might actually be that the highway goes over the crossroad rather than under it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on February 24, 2021, 11:31:01 AM
It is GA 74 in Tyrone GA

https://goo.gl/maps/ynBuHhatfbJcXo5G7

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 24, 2021, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 24, 2021, 11:31:01 AM
It is GA 74 in Tyrone GA

https://goo.gl/maps/ynBuHhatfbJcXo5G7

Give this man a beer!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 24, 2021, 12:07:02 PM
One shield would do.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/6004/5974795387_26c6354a29_3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on February 24, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 24, 2021, 12:07:02 PM
One shield would do.


Those old shields are beautiful though.  Double the pleasure.  No chewing gum necessary.

Is it a one-way pair thus the two shields?  (Still wouldn't be necessary, but could be an excuse)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 24, 2021, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 24, 2021, 11:31:01 AM
It is GA 74 in Tyrone GA

https://goo.gl/maps/ynBuHhatfbJcXo5G7

No surprise that it's barely a couple miles from the studio (Trilith) where the show is filmed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 24, 2021, 12:47:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 24, 2021, 12:07:02 PM
One shield would do.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/6004/5974795387_26c6354a29_3k.jpg)

I think this is pretty common, actually.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on February 26, 2021, 12:36:01 PM
Some temporary signage put up since nearby construction blocks a lane. Except someone decided the orange signs should be in blue and white instead. Our normal merge signs don't even use this color scheme.

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/IMG_20210225_163904.jpg)

For reference, regular temporary sign and regular merge sign (both mirrored):
(https://transportstyrelsen.se/4ad652/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/f25-1.png) (https://transportstyrelsen.se/4ad652/globalassets/global/vag/vagmarken/vagmarken-nedladdning/f17-1.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 26, 2021, 12:38:56 PM
Do you know any signs anywhere that say (with any equivalent wording) "Private property – you may stay on the path to get to the other side; no trespassing off the path"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 26, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 17, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
I see Detroit has seceded from Michigan, joining the state of Chicago. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2608975,-83.2117107,3a,22.2y,295.64h,95.97t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDY9mTR7i8T_XDdMpN5NM1g!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)

Unrelated to the control city display is the oddity of the exit numbers.  This is exit 1, although the southern end of the interchange is a little more than two miles north of M-39's southern terminus.  Then the numbering gets on track by making Van Born Road (1/2 mile farther) exit 2 and Outer Drive (another 1/2 mile farther) exit 3.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 26, 2021, 11:14:10 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/yRf8oHUe9v7gkv39A
Quebec's way of signing a three way stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 27, 2021, 10:42:10 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 26, 2021, 11:14:10 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/yRf8oHUe9v7gkv39A
Quebec's way of signing a three way stop.

They do the same for four-way stops. The alternative would be a plaque that says "Toutes Directions." I've seen those in places, too. I kind of like the little graphical sign you posted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on February 27, 2021, 10:45:32 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 26, 2021, 12:38:56 PM
Do you know any signs anywhere that say (with any equivalent wording) "Private property – you may stay on the path to get to the other side; no trespassing off the path"?

Not that I have any pics, but yes in certain parks in Massachusetts there are trails that are effectively easements thru private property to get to some sort of public property (or a private but opened to the public reservation). I presume that is a fairly standard thing nationwide.

The development my mother lives in in Hudson NH just provided an easement for such a purpose, and likely will have such signage reflecting something along the lines of "stay on the path".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on February 27, 2021, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 26, 2021, 12:38:56 PM
Do you know any signs anywhere that say (with any equivalent wording) "Private property – you may stay on the path to get to the other side; no trespassing off the path"?

I suspect this may be somewhat common in the UK based on their footpaths. I also wouldn't be surprised to see this sort of thing in beach towns where there's an easement between properties. In North Myrtle Beach there were "Public Beach Access" signs indicating such places, for example, although I haven't been there since 1995 aside from one time passing through the area on SC-31 on my way south, so I don't know if they're still there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on February 27, 2021, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on February 27, 2021, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 26, 2021, 12:38:56 PM
Do you know any signs anywhere that say (with any equivalent wording) "Private property – you may stay on the path to get to the other side; no trespassing off the path"?

I suspect this may be somewhat common in the UK based on their footpaths. I also wouldn't be surprised to see this sort of thing in beach towns where there's an easement between properties. In North Myrtle Beach there were "Public Beach Access" signs indicating such places, for example, although I haven't been there since 1995 aside from one time passing through the area on SC-31 on my way south, so I don't know if they're still there.

Folly Beach SC has these in a few places along Ashley Ave which is 2 blocks off the beach.  Simple green letter on white sign that says "public beach access"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 27, 2021, 10:45:36 PM
Ironically, you could crash while reading all the text on this sign.  Interstate 96, Ingham County, Michigan.

(https://i.imgur.com/UrwKiDd.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on February 27, 2021, 11:00:59 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 27, 2021, 10:45:36 PM
Ironically, you could crash while reading all the text on this sign.  Interstate 96, Ingham County, Michigan.

(https://i.imgur.com/UrwKiDd.jpg)

It's a nice looking sign though. One of the few new Highway Gothic signs that we'll get from MDOT in the short renaissance age.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Steve.S on February 28, 2021, 12:34:47 AM
I noticed this one yesterday.  It's on KY-53 just south of I-71 in La Grange.  Seems like a good idea.  I-71 is two lanes between Louisville and Cincinnati, and a crash anywhere in there really fouls up the works.

Location is here:
https://goo.gl/maps/SqNCmVA4SREwfd3i6 (https://goo.gl/maps/SqNCmVA4SREwfd3i6)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210228/328e2f45d56f035aa8c1267eb8ac8952.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 28, 2021, 01:40:11 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 27, 2021, 10:45:36 PM
Ironically, you could crash while reading all the text on this sign.  Interstate 96, Ingham County, Michigan.

(https://i.imgur.com/UrwKiDd.jpg)

In order to read the sign about distracted driving, doesn't it technically have to distract you? That's insane irony for a road sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 28, 2021, 09:45:38 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 26, 2021, 12:38:56 PM
Do you know any signs anywhere that say (with any equivalent wording) "Private property – you may stay on the path to get to the other side; no trespassing off the path"?

Shortly after a popular Maui lava field was closed to the public. (https://goo.gl/maps/ycM3bzA35KodZTjTA)  Sign is missing from more recent views, by which time they put up fences.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on March 02, 2021, 01:10:45 AM
There was a discussion about some interesting milepost equation signs posted by WSDOT a bunch of pages back, and in a similar vein, I've noticed the SR 99 tunnel has these milepost signs on the walls that not only include tenths of a mile (rare in WA), but also survey stationing!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50994899173_ef23efc595_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfbTx)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 02, 2021, 08:48:12 AM
I see my civil engineering education is finally paying off. :nod:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 02, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Dumb question: I've seen survey stationing numbers on structures like bridges; do these correspond to the coordinates of the marker (and thus the structure) or something else entirely?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 02, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Dumb question: I've seen survey stationing numbers on structures like bridges; do these correspond to the coordinates of the marker (and thus the structure) or something else entirely?

To the best of my current knowledge, station numbers are not absolute numbers. They're not related to real coordinates. They're used for laying out a linear build, such as a road, and the first number represents 100 feet. To answer your question, they are just relative to whatever the plans define the initial station (0 + 00 or 1 + 00) to be.

Someone who knows more, please feel free to correct me or add on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 02, 2021, 12:54:26 PM
^^ Yes, they are project-specific but start off at a higher number, such as 100+00 (10,000 feet) so if the projected alignment gets extended at the beginning you won't end up with negative stationing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on March 02, 2021, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 02, 2021, 12:54:26 PM
^^ Yes, they are project-specific but start off at a higher number, such as 100+00 (10,000 feet) so if the projected alignment gets extended at the beginning you won't end up with negative stationing.

That's a railroad thing too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on March 02, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 02, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Dumb question: I've seen survey stationing numbers on structures like bridges; do these correspond to the coordinates of the marker (and thus the structure) or something else entirely?

To the best of my current knowledge, station numbers are not absolute numbers. They're not related to real coordinates. They're used for laying out a linear build, such as a road, and the first number represents 100 feet. To answer your question, they are just relative to whatever the plans define the initial station (0 + 00 or 1 + 00) to be.

Someone who knows more, please feel free to correct me or add on.

Noelbotevera, the station refers to the location of the marker along the alignment, which is relative to the highway, but does not give you absolute coordinates, you would have to figure those out using the definition of the alignment.

JoePCool14, you are correct in general, though of course the alignment is "related" in a way to coordinates since it must have a location on the coordinate grid in order to be surveyed! However, I have experience working with WSDOT, and it would seem that they define permanent alignments with stationing for each highway that carry forward beyond individual projects, which is probably why they bothered putting stationing on an actual sign (with hundredths of a foot, no less!).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 02, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 02, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 02, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Dumb question: I've seen survey stationing numbers on structures like bridges; do these correspond to the coordinates of the marker (and thus the structure) or something else entirely?

To the best of my current knowledge, station numbers are not absolute numbers. They're not related to real coordinates. They're used for laying out a linear build, such as a road, and the first number represents 100 feet. To answer your question, they are just relative to whatever the plans define the initial station (0 + 00 or 1 + 00) to be.

Someone who knows more, please feel free to correct me or add on.

Noelbotevera, the station refers to the location of the marker along the alignment, which is relative to the highway, but does not give you absolute coordinates, you would have to figure those out using the definition of the alignment.
So if I'm reading this correctly, this marker is located 22,956.59 feet from station zero. That's about four miles, so this is located four miles past the beginning of the project (likely the tunnel portal)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 03, 2021, 01:19:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/DumpRhmnbwfTiXm87
US 40 & 322 as a fraction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 03, 2021, 07:37:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 03, 2021, 01:19:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/DumpRhmnbwfTiXm87
US 40 & 322 as a fraction.

This sign is so close to being decent looking, yet at the same time manages to fall quite short. Might be a good one to try and redesign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 03, 2021, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 03, 2021, 07:37:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 03, 2021, 01:19:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/DumpRhmnbwfTiXm87
US 40 & 322 as a fraction.

This sign is so close to being decent looking, yet at the same time manages to fall quite short. Might be a good one to try and redesign.

I took it as subtraction.  US -282
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 03, 2021, 03:45:18 PM
It was a fraction before the circle was redone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 05, 2021, 09:33:56 PM
Quote from: stevashe on March 02, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 02, 2021, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
Dumb question: I've seen survey stationing numbers on structures like bridges; do these correspond to the coordinates of the marker (and thus the structure) or something else entirely?

To the best of my current knowledge, station numbers are not absolute numbers. They're not related to real coordinates. They're used for laying out a linear build, such as a road, and the first number represents 100 feet. To answer your question, they are just relative to whatever the plans define the initial station (0 + 00 or 1 + 00) to be.

Someone who knows more, please feel free to correct me or add on.

Noelbotevera, the station refers to the location of the marker along the alignment, which is relative to the highway, but does not give you absolute coordinates, you would have to figure those out using the definition of the alignment.

JoePCool14, you are correct in general, though of course the alignment is "related" in a way to coordinates since it must have a location on the coordinate grid in order to be surveyed! However, I have experience working with WSDOT, and it would seem that they define permanent alignments with stationing for each highway that carry forward beyond individual projects, which is probably why they bothered putting stationing on an actual sign (with hundredths of a foot, no less!).

It's worth further mentioning that you'll often see in plans multiple alignment lines, each with a uniquely-identifiable name, such as ("A" or "X" or "PQ"). There can be multiple lines with stationing, such as an overall "15" for the centerline of an I-15 alignment, but "15N" for the alignment of the northbound lanes, a separate alignment line for each ramp, etc. The specific location of structures, signs, etc. in a road construction project are often referenced with respect to a named line, station, and distance left/right of the line to the object in question.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 07, 2021, 01:10:32 AM
For those having difficulty choosing a preferred state outline, Columbia OH offers three variations on one assembly.

(https://i.imgur.com/P7zFQ5C.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 08, 2021, 10:12:27 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/PEUxMemwAbGaF86c7
Interesting that there is no shield to warn motorists on US 202 north to turn left here. A text "Route 202"  on a green sign instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on March 08, 2021, 03:49:35 PM
Here's a truck crossing sign that  lights up. (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0084667,-95.89998,3a,15y,54.22h,87.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVWDLcrbhot7YBttTvEUMdw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) I can't recall seeing a sign like this that lights up anywhere else.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 08, 2021, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 08, 2021, 10:12:27 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/PEUxMemwAbGaF86c7
Interesting that there is no shield to warn motorists on US 202 north to turn left here. A text "Route 202"  on a green sign instead.

The more interesting part is that Square Plaza has no components of its sign that are, in fact, square.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on March 08, 2021, 07:40:15 PM
Whenever I've traveled to Minnesota, I've noticed at some intersections, especially in rural areas, these "Traffic Approaching - When Flashing" warning signs, alerting you to oncoming cross-traffic. If I can remember correctly, the "Approaching Traffic" is always illuminated, but the beacons only illuminate when there is oncoming traffic. Since I'm not from Minnesota, I'm not sure if these are a common occurrence or not, but I find them interesting! Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.019865,-95.3127228,3a,48.4y,285.25h,88.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szw7_VbDnIsuwzKFjRHHVrA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dzw7_VbDnIsuwzKFjRHHVrA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D90.41099%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) is an example at the intersection of County Rd 5 NE and MN-29 near Miltona, Minnesota.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 08, 2021, 07:42:50 PM
Like this?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51009611526_e366cbc2fe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kHxAmN)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on March 08, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
Yes, exactly!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 08, 2021, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on March 08, 2021, 07:46:42 PM
Yes, exactly!

SW CO has something like that in a few intersections except the setup is more lime the Truck Crossing sign ^^.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 08, 2021, 08:16:23 PM
NY has at least one installation north of Syracuse near Southwick Beach.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 08, 2021, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 08, 2021, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 08, 2021, 10:12:27 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/PEUxMemwAbGaF86c7
Interesting that there is no shield to warn motorists on US 202 north to turn left here. A text "Route 202"  on a green sign instead.

The more interesting part is that Square Plaza has no components of its sign that are, in fact, square.

The building isn't square either. What a disappointment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 08, 2021, 09:42:49 PM
I was randomly browsing Google Street View (as we all do) and found this yield sign placed in an odd spot in Vermont. https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.0529124,-72.5243024,3a,75y,120.53h,77.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6AAP3qx0vx30xkRmtAR5DA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.0529124,-72.5243024,3a,75y,120.53h,77.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6AAP3qx0vx30xkRmtAR5DA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 10:47:07 AM
Quote from: rellis97 on March 08, 2021, 07:40:15 PM
Whenever I've traveled to Minnesota, I've noticed at some intersections, especially in rural areas, these "Traffic Approaching - When Flashing" warning signs, alerting you to oncoming cross-traffic. If I can remember correctly, the "Approaching Traffic" is always illuminated, but the beacons only illuminate when there is oncoming traffic. Since I'm not from Minnesota, I'm not sure if these are a common occurrence or not, but I find them interesting! Here (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.019865,-95.3127228,3a,48.4y,285.25h,88.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szw7_VbDnIsuwzKFjRHHVrA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dzw7_VbDnIsuwzKFjRHHVrA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D90.41099%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) is an example at the intersection of County Rd 5 NE and MN-29 near Miltona, Minnesota.

This seems to be an amped-up version of the below...

Quote from: J N Winkler on October 21, 2017, 02:08:57 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 10, 2017, 11:40:43 AM
MN-23 northeast from Willmar to Saint Cloud.  That corridor has warning signs with flashing yellow lights in advance of red stoplights, but also in advance of a couple of unsignalized intersections; there must be a sensor for the cross road, and the lights activate to warn of turning traffic.  Pretty cool.  The warning signs saying "Acceleration lane 500 feet", however, are pointless.  What hazard does an acceleration lane present?

AIUI, those signs are used only when a divided highway has acceleration lanes that allow traffic turning left out of a side road to come up to speed before merging from the left.  This is fairly unusual provision (I think I have seen it only in Minnesota), so the signs mitigate lack of driver expectancy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 09, 2021, 01:05:54 PM
Conflict warning signs. Increasingly being installed in Kentucky in areas where traffic pulls out onto a road where the oncoming drivers don't stop. Here's an installation in the western part of the state:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4545/38827901092_c36eb7b088_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22a69fy)2017 Western Kentucky meet weekend Day 3 - 35 (https://flic.kr/p/22a69fy) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on March 09, 2021, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 09, 2021, 01:05:54 PM
Conflict warning signs. Increasingly being installed in Kentucky in areas where traffic pulls out onto a road where the oncoming drivers don't stop. Here's an installation in the western part of the state:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4545/38827901092_c36eb7b088_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22a69fy)2017 Western Kentucky meet weekend Day 3 - 35 (https://flic.kr/p/22a69fy) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Here is another Kentucky install. This one includes the direction in which the traffic is coming.
https://goo.gl/maps/bzizLMqBKH6hryhb6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 09, 2021, 06:11:04 PM
"STOP" "Right Turn Permitted Without Stopping" (https://goo.gl/maps/GEP6apUKLJ3sdfxD7)

Extremely common, I know. But take a look around: why is this stop sign here at all? It's like putting a stop sign in the middle of a curve: there's no traffic to stop for anyways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 09, 2021, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.

That's what I'm thinking as well. Two stop signs are not a requirement for any approach: they intentionally painted a stop line across the right turn, posted a stop sign right before it, and then posted another sign saying right turns don't have to stop.

Here's an easier way to approach this: post a "this lane" sign below the stop sign on the left, and then remove everything from the right turn lane including the stop line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 09, 2021, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 09, 2021, 07:24:23 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.

That's what I'm thinking as well. Two stop signs are not a requirement for any approach: they intentionally painted a stop line across the right turn, posted a stop sign right before it, and then posted another sign saying right turns don't have to stop.

Here's an easier way to approach this: post a "this lane" sign below the stop sign on the left, and then remove everything from the right turn lane including the stop line.


They could stripe this intersection differently and get rid of all the stop signs entirely...

If you turn right the next road sign, oddly, is NO FIREWORKS ALLOWED
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.

So, if the stop sign on the right weren't there, then why would the stop sign on the left not govern both lanes?  Likewise, does the presence of a stop sign on the right mean, by some quirk of the state law, that the stop sign on the left does not govern the left lane?

Unless there's some strange Washington law about stop signs' application not extending across pizza-shaped neutral space, I must assume that BOTH stop signs govern BOTH lanes.  And, therefore, the absence of one or the other would have no bearing on the application of the other.

Is there some law that contradicts this understanding?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 09, 2021, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.

So, if the stop sign on the right weren't there, then why would the stop sign on the left not govern both lanes?  Likewise, does the presence of a stop sign on the right mean, by some quirk of the state law, that the stop sign on the left does not govern the left lane?

Unless there's some strange Washington law about stop signs' application not extending across pizza-shaped neutral space, I must assume that BOTH stop signs govern BOTH lanes.  And, therefore, the absence of one or the other would have no bearing on the application of the other.

Is there some law that contradicts this understanding?

"Right turn permitted without stopping" should remain, but the stop sign on the right should be removed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 09, 2021, 09:21:33 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.

So, if the stop sign on the right weren't there, then why would the stop sign on the left not govern both lanes?  Likewise, does the presence of a stop sign on the right mean, by some quirk of the state law, that the stop sign on the left does not govern the left lane?

Unless there's some strange Washington law about stop signs' application not extending across pizza-shaped neutral space, I must assume that BOTH stop signs govern BOTH lanes.  And, therefore, the absence of one or the other would have no bearing on the application of the other.

Is there some law that contradicts this understanding?

"Right turn permitted without stopping" should remain, but the stop sign on the right should be removed.

1) I agree with 1's comment on how to handle the right turn.  Given the apparent lack of pedestrians and lack of any conflicting moverment, there should not even be any cues towards having right turn traffic stop here.  If a second stop sign is at all warranted* here, it should be placed in the painted island where left turning traffic can be governed by it, not right turns.

2)  With a few minor tweaks, this can be redesigned to even avoid left turning traffic from having to stop.  As southbound Scoville approaches the intersection with one lane and emerges with two lanes to 6th street, you can paint this left turn with a narrow turning radius such that all traffic from the left turn will only use the left lane of 6th, and all traffic from Scoville will use the right lane.  A W4-3 sign and perhaps some flex posts to force people to stay in lane for a while would do the trick.



* There may be a state law or such that requires a stop sign to be on the right side.  I can't recall seeing a stop sign in the US that is only on the left, even on a one way street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 09, 2021, 10:03:52 PM
MUTCD Section 2B.10 'STOP Sign or YIELD Sign Placement' does indicate the following:

(1) The STOP or YIELD sign shall be installed on the near side of the intersection on the right-hand side of the approach to which it applies.
(2) The STOP or YIELD sign shall be located as close as practical to the intersection it regulates, while optimizing its visibility to the road user it is intended to regulate.

So in a sense, the default installation location would be on the right side of the intersection. I suspect the state of Oregon, or the city of Grants Pass (not sure who is in charge) considers this one giant intersection, so the stop sign ends up on both sides. However, as mrsman indicates above, it would be very simple to restripe this into, at the very least, a constant-flow intersection without any signage. Or, if it were easier, into two separate intersections, with the right turn being a "slip lane" separate from the left turn, allowing the stop sign to be placed in the porkchop island like this (https://goo.gl/maps/uNRdK6b8fngTsnzY6) (it would effectively create two intersections with Scoville: one for the left turn, and the other for the right turn); the right turn would be a constant flow movement regardless, as it does not interfere with other traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 09, 2021, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 09, 2021, 09:21:33 PMI can't recall seeing a stop sign in the US that is only on the left, even on a one way street.
This used to be a signalized intersection.  Dropped the ball of having no stop sign on the right.  https://goo.gl/maps/fostjHn8BHJ4HDuL6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2021, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 09, 2021, 09:21:33 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 08:07:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2021, 07:21:20 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
In my view, the stop sign also governs the left-turn lane, which has to yield to traffic from the right.

The left turn lane already has its own stop sign.

So, if the stop sign on the right weren't there, then why would the stop sign on the left not govern both lanes?  Likewise, does the presence of a stop sign on the right mean, by some quirk of the state law, that the stop sign on the left does not govern the left lane?

Unless there's some strange Washington law about stop signs' application not extending across pizza-shaped neutral space, I must assume that BOTH stop signs govern BOTH lanes.  And, therefore, the absence of one or the other would have no bearing on the application of the other.

Is there some law that contradicts this understanding?

"Right turn permitted without stopping" should remain, but the stop sign on the right should be removed.

1) I agree with 1's comment on how to handle the right turn.  Given the apparent lack of pedestrians and lack of any conflicting moverment, there should not even be any cues towards having right turn traffic stop here.  If a second stop sign is at all warranted* here, it should be placed in the painted island where left turning traffic can be governed by it, not right turns.

2)  With a few minor tweaks, this can be redesigned to even avoid left turning traffic from having to stop.  As southbound Scoville approaches the intersection with one lane and emerges with two lanes to 6th street, you can paint this left turn with a narrow turning radius such that all traffic from the left turn will only use the left lane of 6th, and all traffic from Scoville will use the right lane.  A W4-3 sign and perhaps some flex posts to force people to stay in lane for a while would do the trick.

* There may be a state law or such that requires a stop sign to be on the right side.  I can't recall seeing a stop sign in the US that is only on the left, even on a one way street.

Looking at the 2008 GSV, the jersey barriers for the parking lot across the street are further back, the stop line is fading, and the Stop sign being eyed up doesn't have the 'Right Turns Permitted Without Stopping".  My guess is that back in the day, with that parking lot being active, stopping then turning right off the ramp may have been more of a concern with possible opposing traffic.   

What's not visible is the various laws and regulations of the state.  Nearly everything may be encoded into local regulations, such as what streets are considered stop streets.  It's possible that without the parking lot being there, it's easier to keep the Stop sign in place but allow motorists to continue thru it, rather than removing it which may take more municipal or county action.  And if a business were to operate where that parking lot is in the future, just take down the "Keep Moving" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 09, 2021, 10:37:36 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 09, 2021, 10:35:01 PM

Quote from: mrsman on March 09, 2021, 09:21:33 PMI can't recall seeing a stop sign in the US that is only on the left, even on a one way street.

This used to be a signalized intersection.  Dropped the ball of having no stop sign on the right.  https://goo.gl/maps/fostjHn8BHJ4HDuL6

But there's still a YIELD sign on the right.  It's not left "blank" on that side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 09, 2021, 10:38:22 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 09, 2021, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 09, 2021, 09:21:33 PMI can't recall seeing a stop sign in the US that is only on the left, even on a one way street.
This used to be a signalized intersection.  Dropped the ball of having no stop sign on the right.  https://goo.gl/maps/fostjHn8BHJ4HDuL6

It was attempted here, https://goo.gl/maps/2LHmhv4mMJuqMnH46  but I believe since this GSV was taken they did make the right side a Stop lane as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 09, 2021, 10:45:57 PM
From those 2 examples, there is a flat island rather than a raised island to put the stop sign on.  My example had a raised island there when it was signalized, which went away with the signal pole.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 09, 2021, 11:28:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47926937743/in/album-72157625374776076/

Inverted US192 shields in Florida.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: index on March 10, 2021, 08:49:35 AM
It looks like the tribal government here wrote a trespassing notice or something on a US shield for this access road:
https://www.google.com/maps/@26.2913499,-80.8579749,3a,15y,33.62h,86.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svVrIAayQgsrsPChBlRRZ8g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Weird.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 10, 2021, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: index on March 10, 2021, 08:49:35 AM
It looks like the tribal government here wrote a trespassing notice or something on a US shield for this access road:
https://www.google.com/maps/@26.2913499,-80.8579749,3a,15y,33.62h,86.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svVrIAayQgsrsPChBlRRZ8g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Weird.

If you think it's appropriate, you might cross-post that over in the Altered, Repurposed, Recycled, Reused (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7203.msg161535#msg161535) thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2021, 11:28:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47926937743/in/album-72157625374776076/

Inverted US192 shields in Florida.

What was Florida's color for 192? Are those inverted, or are they throwbacks to the technicolor days?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 10, 2021, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2021, 11:28:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47926937743/in/album-72157625374776076/

Inverted US192 shields in Florida.

What was Florida's color for 192? Are those inverted, or are they throwbacks to the technicolor days?

It was green.

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/7778664_orig.jpg)

(https://www.usends.com/uploads/7/5/0/3/75032313/fl-us-route-colors_1_orig.png)

(https://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/FL/FL19561921i1.jpg)

Quote from: flaroads on January 21, 2009, 11:22:25 AM
Two colors, though, orange and black, were only used once and were used on US 41 (orange) and US 98 (black) only because those routes intersected all other colour schemes in the system and the state felt that would confuse motorists (though there was the rare occurance of the US 192 and US 27 interchange where both shield colours were green).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 10, 2021, 07:23:28 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 10, 2021, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2021, 11:28:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/47926937743/in/album-72157625374776076/

Inverted US192 shields in Florida.

What was Florida's color for 192? Are those inverted, or are they throwbacks to the technicolor days?

Obviously these are the black and white versions of a colour shield. ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on March 12, 2021, 03:41:11 PM
Found a pair of these BLIND DRIVE / T intersection combo signs in Levy County, FL.  It's tough to see in Streetview, but Levy County also decided to include a dashed center line on the vertical bar as well, and it struck me as kind of PennDOT-lite.

CR-337 south of Bronson (https://goo.gl/maps/ZJy4Espyphfu9uyA7)
CR-339 south of Trenton (https://goo.gl/maps/Gg1yhMGtjPd29Pf37)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 12, 2021, 11:33:19 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/C8Ut7UYSVSCK23L77
Nice 3 digit width PA 72 shield in Lebanon, PA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 13, 2021, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: HTM Duke on March 12, 2021, 03:41:11 PM
Found a pair of these BLIND DRIVE / T intersection combo signs in Levy County, FL.  It's tough to see in Streetview, but Levy County also decided to include a dashed center line on the vertical bar as well, and it struck me as kind of PennDOT-lite.

CR-337 south of Bronson (https://goo.gl/maps/ZJy4Espyphfu9uyA7)
CR-339 south of Trenton (https://goo.gl/maps/Gg1yhMGtjPd29Pf37)


I was just driving on that last Sunday, and thought about posting it. I suppose it lets you know which side of the road traffic might appear from.

Also, Levy County still likes posting a "C" in front of many county routes. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 05:00:44 PM
Technically I suppose this isn't a road sign, but it's close enough. My mom sent this today. She was out for a walk on the Cross County Trail somewhere down near the old prison in Lorton, Virginia, and saw this.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210313/4a8feded16c243965a57cdd1a0c37642.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 13, 2021, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 05:00:44 PM
Technically I suppose this isn’t a road sign, but it’s close enough. My mom sent this today. She was out for a walk on the Cross County Trail somewhere down near the old prison in Lorton, Virginia, and saw this.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210313/4a8feded16c243965a57cdd1a0c37642.jpg)

I think the lower sign qualifies for Worst Of. :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 13, 2021, 06:45:03 PM
^^and the bottom-right arrow pointed opposite of the other arrows?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on March 13, 2021, 07:25:37 PM
This is in a private parking lot, but boy, I've never seen so many different elements of various MUTCD signs all sandwiched into one.

(https://i.ibb.co/gDLJzY3/IMG-6765.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven't been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 13, 2021, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven't been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.

That is indeed standard priority--literature and postings for shared-use trails in National Parks (I am thinking Cuyahoga Valley because that is what I use) say bikes yield to pedestrians, and everyone yields to horses.  If the arrows all pointed counterclockwise, you would have a neverending cycle of yielding.   
The recycling logo style arrows need to go though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 14, 2021, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 13, 2021, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven't been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.

That is indeed standard priority--literature and postings for shared-use trails in National Parks (I am thinking Cuyahoga Valley because that is what I use) say bikes yield to pedestrians, and everyone yields to horses.  If the arrows all pointed counterclockwise, you would have a neverending cycle of yielding.   
The recycling logo style arrows need to go though.

The sign is awful given that it is confusing to identify the message.  Sometimes one has to use complete English sentences and not rely on pictures alone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 14, 2021, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: mrsman on March 14, 2021, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 13, 2021, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven’t been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.

That is indeed standard priority--literature and postings for shared-use trails in National Parks (I am thinking Cuyahoga Valley because that is what I use) say bikes yield to pedestrians, and everyone yields to horses.  If the arrows all pointed counterclockwise, you would have a neverending cycle of yielding.   
The recycling logo style arrows need to go though.

The sign is awful given that it is confusing to identify the message.  Sometimes one has to use complete English sentences and not rely on pictures alone.

This design (https://goo.gl/maps/SnsyQ8tTqiSGA6tm8) is a little more comprehensible (no horses, but still 3 things).  Putting the icons at the corners and having straight arrows seems to clean it up a lot. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on March 14, 2021, 05:32:50 PM
Anybody ever heard of a MEMORIAL APPROACH?

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7154496,-91.3677971,3a,75y,267.46h,83.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZq1I6NWp05TXdb36W1qngg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7424538,-91.321255,3a,75y,42.28h,90.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYKc6uzNCMI9vGw8L4T1jvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Both of these are on LA 10 on either side of the John James Audubon Bridge over the MS River.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kenarmy on March 14, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on March 14, 2021, 05:32:50 PM
Anybody ever heard of a MEMORIAL APPROACH?

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7154496,-91.3677971,3a,75y,267.46h,83.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZq1I6NWp05TXdb36W1qngg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7424538,-91.321255,3a,75y,42.28h,90.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYKc6uzNCMI9vGw8L4T1jvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Both of these are on LA 10 on either side of the John James Audubon Bridge over the MS River.
I remember driving by these and I didn't even think of much of it  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 15, 2021, 10:42:33 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 14, 2021, 11:05:55 AM

Quote from: mrsman on March 14, 2021, 12:26:02 AM

Quote from: PurdueBill on March 13, 2021, 11:09:36 PM

Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM

Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM

Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?

I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven't been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.

That is indeed standard priority--literature and postings for shared-use trails in National Parks (I am thinking Cuyahoga Valley because that is what I use) say bikes yield to pedestrians, and everyone yields to horses.  If the arrows all pointed counterclockwise, you would have a neverending cycle of yielding.   
The recycling logo style arrows need to go though.

The sign is awful given that it is confusing to identify the message.  Sometimes one has to use complete English sentences and not rely on pictures alone.

This design (https://goo.gl/maps/SnsyQ8tTqiSGA6tm8) is a little more comprehensible (no horses, but still 3 things).  Putting the icons at the corners and having straight arrows seems to clean it up a lot. 

It never once occurred to me that the arrows actually meant anything at all on that sign.  And, if I have to stop and figure out a puzzle in order to know what to do, then the sign is a complete failure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 15, 2021, 12:36:41 PM
This sign on the beginning of VA 5 EB in Richmond is a typical bridge clearance sign except there's no -0" after the '. Looks weird.

The sign on the rather short Orleans St (2nd pic) not far from here does it the right way.

Images from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210315/8ecafb298d5351163b7d167ef58016a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210315/ee9b703ba0a3aa3c2b880bbdf4c65fb3.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SectorZ on March 15, 2021, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 14, 2021, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: mrsman on March 14, 2021, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 13, 2021, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven't been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.

That is indeed standard priority--literature and postings for shared-use trails in National Parks (I am thinking Cuyahoga Valley because that is what I use) say bikes yield to pedestrians, and everyone yields to horses.  If the arrows all pointed counterclockwise, you would have a neverending cycle of yielding.   
The recycling logo style arrows need to go though.

The sign is awful given that it is confusing to identify the message.  Sometimes one has to use complete English sentences and not rely on pictures alone.

This design (https://goo.gl/maps/SnsyQ8tTqiSGA6tm8) is a little more comprehensible (no horses, but still 3 things).  Putting the icons at the corners and having straight arrows seems to clean it up a lot.

There is similar signage to this on the Nashua River Rail Trail from Ayer to Dunstable, MA. An example in Groton, https://goo.gl/maps/59gWFTuycWhwvxfP8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on March 15, 2021, 02:55:28 PM
The Loop in Tucson has the same type of sign. It took me a minute, but I figured it out. Of course, I was walking at the time.  https://images.app.goo.gl/1VgT9bezYkAFzDpG6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on March 15, 2021, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 14, 2021, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: mrsman on March 14, 2021, 12:26:02 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 13, 2021, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 13, 2021, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on March 13, 2021, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on March 13, 2021, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Yeah, what the FF does recycling have to do with yielding to equestrian traffic?
I think its saying bicycles yield to both horses and pedestrians, and pedestrians yield to horses? Maybe?

The way I understand it is that both pedestrians and cyclists have to yield to horses, and cyclists have to yield to both pedestrians and horses. I think?

That seems to make sense to me. I haven't been on that segment of the trail, so I have no idea how common horses are.

That is indeed standard priority--literature and postings for shared-use trails in National Parks (I am thinking Cuyahoga Valley because that is what I use) say bikes yield to pedestrians, and everyone yields to horses.  If the arrows all pointed counterclockwise, you would have a neverending cycle of yielding.   
The recycling logo style arrows need to go though.

The sign is awful given that it is confusing to identify the message.  Sometimes one has to use complete English sentences and not rely on pictures alone.

This design (https://goo.gl/maps/SnsyQ8tTqiSGA6tm8) is a little more comprehensible (no horses, but still 3 things).  Putting the icons at the corners and having straight arrows seems to clean it up a lot.
Is that a cat at the bottom corner? I doubt that a cat is going to yield to anyone. Hell, my neighbors cat purposely tries to trip me when he is outside!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 15, 2021, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on March 15, 2021, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 14, 2021, 11:05:55 AM
This design (https://goo.gl/maps/SnsyQ8tTqiSGA6tm8) is a little more comprehensible (no horses, but still 3 things).  Putting the icons at the corners and having straight arrows seems to clean it up a lot.
Is that a cat at the bottom corner? I doubt that a cat is going to yield to anyone. Hell, my neighbors cat purposely tries to trip me when he is outside!

I think they're roller skates.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 15, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
Seeing multiple examples of this posted leads me to believe this sign is somewhat standard.  It really shouldn't be.  Arrows going around a triangle are unnecessarily confusing.

The signs should really be a white rectangle with the following words.  (The words in brackets can be a picture.)

{Bikes} yield to {hikers}, {horses}
{Hikers} yield to {horses}


Does anyone know what they do in Europe for their trails?  Because of the multiple languages spoken there, they tend to abound in signs without words, and often they are pretty good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 15, 2021, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 15, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
Does anyone know what they do in Europe for their trails?

Let people just use common sense?   :cool:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on March 15, 2021, 09:48:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 15, 2021, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 15, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
Does anyone know what they do in Europe for their trails?

Let people just use common sense?   :cool:
Yeah I really can't imagine any of these signs have any effect on people's behavior. Its like the signs that say don't litter on the trail, I read a study that sign actually increased the amount of litter people left behind. No one is going to see it and think "oh I was going to throw this on the ground, but now I'm not since the sign says so"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 17, 2021, 12:02:22 AM
A group of odd monstrosities -- one after another in Rock Springs, WY:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWNDK6rV644SsmF5A

https://maps.app.goo.gl/d7Yxz41aaS3SpjcF7

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7RABJVRAGBo9WaA76
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Frafra Zoomer on March 17, 2021, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: mrsman on March 15, 2021, 04:38:53 PM


Does anyone know what they do in Europe for their trails?  Because of the multiple languages spoken there, they tend to abound in signs without words, and often they are pretty good.

I only know abt. the Netherlands, and there it's usually a bike path where pedestrians have to not take up the whole path and block cyclists (just like when you walk on the road)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 17, 2021, 05:14:08 AM
Here's one of the more common varieties of the "everyone yield to horses" sign. Someone just whipped up a recycling logo probably because it was easily available. It makes semantic sense, but it adds complication, though you're probably not going too fast that it will baffle you, unless you're overthinking it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50996287992_60ee1e22e6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kGniJG)

(For those who aren't sure, horses can get spooked/confused easily, and someone can get hurt if they don't yield to a larger and more powerful animal.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 17, 2021, 09:17:42 AM
A group of odd monstrosities -- one after another in Rock Springs, WY:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWNDK6rV644SsmF5A

https://maps.app.goo.gl/d7Yxz41aaS3SpjcF7

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7RABJVRAGBo9WaA76
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 17, 2021, 10:15:26 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 17, 2021, 09:17:42 AM
A group of odd monstrosities -- one after another in Rock Springs, WY:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GWNDK6rV644SsmF5A

https://maps.app.goo.gl/d7Yxz41aaS3SpjcF7

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7RABJVRAGBo9WaA76

That first link has double redundancy.  It has BUSINESS written above a Business Loop Interstate Shield, and instead of the distance to the exit, it has EXIT 107 written in it's place, along with an EXIT 107 tab.

Another thing about that link, it drives me crazy when Google Street View mislabels the road, but still kinda correct.  That link says you are on the main lanes of US-30 with no mention of I-80.  Yes they are cosigned there, but I-80 being the interstate, it should get "label priority".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 17, 2021, 05:55:47 PM
Here's a recycled steep hill sign. The sign that was recycled? An "aluminium to recycle (arrow)" sign. Talk about ironic. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.188794,-71.4480507,3a,15y,305.84h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPoDlYL40I9IO1YUX6WUzbA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 17, 2021, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 17, 2021, 05:55:47 PM
Here's a recycled steep hill sign. The sign that was recycled? An "aluminium to recycle (arrow)" sign. Talk about ironic. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.188794,-71.4480507,3a,15y,305.84h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPoDlYL40I9IO1YUX6WUzbA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The front is worth looking at too!  I've never seen the grade marked like that.

Oh.  Canada.  Maybe that's normal there?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 17, 2021, 05:59:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 17, 2021, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 17, 2021, 05:55:47 PM
Here's a recycled steep hill sign. The sign that was recycled? An "aluminium to recycle (arrow)" sign. Talk about ironic. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.188794,-71.4480507,3a,15y,305.84h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPoDlYL40I9IO1YUX6WUzbA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The front is worth looking at too!  I've never seen the grade marked like that.

Oh.  Canada.  Maybe that's normal there?

It is the Québec standard. http://www.rsr.transports.gouv.qc.ca/Dispositifs/Details.aspx?cid=12562&p=7&ca=PetiteVignette&che=DANGR&cat=DANGR
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 17, 2021, 06:21:21 PM
Figures.  I'm quite ignorant of Canadian signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 18, 2021, 11:05:02 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/TWJc4LE99qQaSiFo7

I believe the cardinal directions are reversed.  However US 460 runs awkwardly in Norfolk, with West is heading east from Tidewater Drive and East is heading west from here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 19, 2021, 10:10:55 AM
I don't think this assembly is very common.  At least I don't remember having seen one before.

Comstock, TX (https://goo.gl/maps/cMfJ37GsHQU5DN2H8)

At the other end of town, there's a similar but all-text version (https://goo.gl/maps/JGxSuR23k3tpBdPf7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kenarmy on March 19, 2021, 10:16:17 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 19, 2021, 10:10:55 AM
I don't think this assembly is very common.  At least I don't remember having seen one before.

Comstock, TX (https://goo.gl/maps/cMfJ37GsHQU5DN2H8)

At the other end of town, there's a similar but all-text version (https://goo.gl/maps/JGxSuR23k3tpBdPf7).
I swear I have seen the first assembly somewhere but I can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on March 19, 2021, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 19, 2021, 10:10:55 AM
I don't think this assembly is very common.  At least I don't remember having seen one before.

Comstock, TX (https://goo.gl/maps/cMfJ37GsHQU5DN2H8)

At the other end of town, there's a similar but all-text version (https://goo.gl/maps/JGxSuR23k3tpBdPf7).

I've seen plenty of the first assembly, but not the second. Examples:
1.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1550261,-95.4309701,3a,15y,29.86h,87.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjqLINPqF2DuSVLyuPT9OGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
2.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0426034,-95.4010497,3a,75y,358.57h,90.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdCRJ5x6QxPw3QEqlKM93Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (pan over to the right)
3.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0482831,-95.4673813,3a,24.1y,117.63h,85.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWf5vTk0yiEoWqCQQlQyBTw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
4.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1638561,-95.4497996,3a,15y,302.01h,88.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX__KOX20d9eXjrquLuqa5A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
5.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1431066,-95.6321144,3a,15y,114.92h,87.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVu1sb8ZB1hu0hhYnxYulAA!2e0!5s20161001T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
6.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4339138,-95.2581591,3a,15y,142.22h,89.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-wqUrhIwm5i2ToWe0XN1UQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) 6 and 7 are interesting because "END" is also printed on the turning lane.
7.  (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4635966,-95.3453078,3a,15y,300.6h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sk_1QCyN2th4_MAtUxCSBSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 19, 2021, 01:05:30 PM
Apparently, I just drive the wrong highways in Texas.  I just checked my usual route between Oklahoma and Mexico, and I can't find a single example of those signs.  Figures.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 19, 2021, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 18, 2021, 11:05:02 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/TWJc4LE99qQaSiFo7

I believe the cardinal directions are reversed.  However US 460 runs awkwardly in Norfolk, with West is heading east from Tidewater Drive and East is heading west from here.

Those shields. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 19, 2021, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 19, 2021, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 18, 2021, 11:05:02 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/TWJc4LE99qQaSiFo7

I believe the cardinal directions are reversed.  However US 460 runs awkwardly in Norfolk, with West is heading east from Tidewater Drive and East is heading west from here.

Those shields. :thumbdown:

And why is it that road agencies and contractors so often can't find two of the exact same shield design for an assembly?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 19, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 19, 2021, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 19, 2021, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 18, 2021, 11:05:02 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/TWJc4LE99qQaSiFo7

I believe the cardinal directions are reversed.  However US 460 runs awkwardly in Norfolk, with West is heading east from Tidewater Drive and East is heading west from here.

Those shields. :thumbdown:

And why is it that road agencies and contractors so often can't find two of the exact same shield design for an assembly?


It's Norfolk, so be glad they are the right shield type.

Directions are correct, though...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kenarmy on March 19, 2021, 09:03:18 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3548482,-90.2012907,3a,17y,228.92h,88.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s24QRagm-k8UcTplD5wb9jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

"All other times"  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on March 19, 2021, 09:04:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 19, 2021, 10:10:55 AM
I don't think this assembly is very common.  At least I don't remember having seen one before.

Comstock, TX (https://goo.gl/maps/cMfJ37GsHQU5DN2H8)

These are common in the Pittsburgh area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 20, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/12zoSjMNY5GFEJ1Q8

US 460 EB at VA 168  in Norfolk has this weird assembly and old style KEEP RIGHT as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 20, 2021, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: tylert120 on March 19, 2021, 09:04:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 19, 2021, 10:10:55 AM
I don't think this assembly is very common.  At least I don't remember having seen one before.

Comstock, TX (https://goo.gl/maps/cMfJ37GsHQU5DN2H8)

These are common in the Pittsburgh area.

Also common in Chicagoland. I've seen them on village and Cook County streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on March 22, 2021, 11:43:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nj3DJFhh.jpg)
No shield? No indication whatsoever that 75 is, in fact, a highway? OK then.
Fortunately this dinosaur is a couple hundred feet up the road to provide some proper (old-school) directions.
(https://i.imgur.com/kUukJoCh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 22, 2021, 11:56:31 PM
Not actually pointing the way to I-75, it's pointing the way to that awesome button copy 75. Oh, and it's black on white, so beholding its awesomeness is mandatory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kenarmy on March 23, 2021, 12:24:00 AM
Ok I'm just combining my posts since they are all within the same area.....

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5161116,-90.0977382,3a,25.1y,224.43h,79.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syQn6iPoPxI2X4i0C7gBOvQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And if you go further down and take a left, you'll see the other one
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5141507,-90.0959584,3a,75y,148.49h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSlh9J9Em_sFg4bMgMeXjVQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
And another one...
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.515722,-90.0947454,3a,90y,210.05h,71.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdjbBafylYUrJqH_6_cAgHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

here is the one that was replaced:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5169421,-90.099469,3a,78.6y,89.4h,91.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scBWKimUSDDzNbL2AXozHQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

They built a Sonics right here so this sign had to be moved  :-/
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5169559,-90.0967789,3a,87y,121.13h,81.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ0VGqVzXsDWmnSCvAifpKw!2e0!5s20130501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Gluckstadt is really good on letting people know how to get to 51.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on March 23, 2021, 02:55:44 PM
Quote from: Harvestman on March 22, 2021, 11:43:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nj3DJFhh.jpg)
No shield? No indication whatsoever that 75 is, in fact, a highway? OK then.

To a 75 MPH speed zone, since this sign is "regulatory".  :spin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 23, 2021, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 23, 2021, 02:55:44 PM

Quote from: Harvestman on March 22, 2021, 11:43:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nj3DJFhh.jpg)
No shield? No indication whatsoever that 75 is, in fact, a highway? OK then.

To a 75 MPH speed zone, since this sign is "regulatory".  :spin:

If you're turning right, then you have to get up to 75.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 23, 2021, 03:56:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 23, 2021, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 23, 2021, 02:55:44 PM

Quote from: Harvestman on March 22, 2021, 11:43:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nj3DJFhh.jpg)
No shield? No indication whatsoever that 75 is, in fact, a highway? OK then.

To a 75 MPH speed zone, since this sign is "regulatory".  :spin:

If you're turning right, then you have to get up to 75.

The town of "To" is 75 miles to the right.  :spin: :spin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 23, 2021, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 23, 2021, 03:56:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 23, 2021, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on March 23, 2021, 02:55:44 PM

Quote from: Harvestman on March 22, 2021, 11:43:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nj3DJFhh.jpg)
No shield? No indication whatsoever that 75 is, in fact, a highway? OK then.

To a 75 MPH speed zone, since this sign is "regulatory".  :spin:

If you're turning right, then you have to get up to 75.

The town of "To" is 75 miles to the right.  :spin: :spin:
Before the 1970s, black on white was used for destination/distance signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 23, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
Sure, but they didn't have diamond grade sheeting in the 70s, so this clearly isn't referencing that...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ozarkman417 on March 23, 2021, 06:29:01 PM
Keeping the theme of odd I-75 signs..
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210323/5f4e80e4766a8a99f4c80d42e1760290.jpg)

Perhaps this sign was developed by a county agency, or the nearby Pilot travel center. Any idea as to where the "To 75" sign on the previous page might be located?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on March 23, 2021, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 23, 2021, 06:29:01 PM
Keeping the theme of odd I-75 signs..
(img snipped)

Perhaps this sign was developed by a county agency, or the nearby Pilot travel center. Any idea as to where the "To 75" sign on the previous page might be located?
That sign needs to go in the worst of road signs. That could possibly be the grossest interstate shield I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 23, 2021, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on March 23, 2021, 08:04:29 PM

Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 23, 2021, 06:29:01 PM
Keeping the theme of odd I-75 signs..
(img snipped)

Perhaps this sign was developed by a county agency, or the nearby Pilot travel center. Any idea as to where the "To 75" sign on the previous page might be located?

That sign needs to go in the worst of road signs. That could possibly be the grossest interstate shield I've ever seen.

And yet the red INTERSTATE banner at the top looks halfway decent.  It's like someone took utter crap and wrapped it in a ribbon and a bow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on March 23, 2021, 09:20:27 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2656792,-77.6326062,3a,75y,72.74h,95.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWrqVMXDV0zx4rx3kWCrtcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Old shields. Wonder when this will get updated when the Kinston bypass gets built.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on March 24, 2021, 03:15:20 AM
Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 23, 2021, 06:29:01 PM
Any idea as to where the "To 75" sign on the previous page might be located?
Right off of Mitchell Avenue near downtown Cincinnati.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/39°09'55.7"N+84°30'46.8"W/@39.165467,-84.5135502,145m
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 24, 2021, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: Harvestman on March 24, 2021, 03:15:20 AM

Quote from: ozarkman417 on March 23, 2021, 06:29:01 PM
Any idea as to where the "To 75" sign on the previous page might be located?

Right off of Mitchell Avenue near downtown Cincinnati.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/39°09'55.7"N+84°30'46.8"W/@39.165467,-84.5135502,145m

For those wondering why that link doesn't work, try this:  https://goo.gl/maps/8dHxBBbWCmYbeNAq8

And the GSV is here:  https://goo.gl/maps/9MjqcDVAUjwLSspSA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 24, 2021, 03:21:20 PM
The "To 75" looks like a private entity may have posted it, based on that Street View image.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 24, 2021, 05:01:53 PM
Oh, yeah. That's in a parking lot. That's nowhere near as interesting :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on March 25, 2021, 12:55:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 24, 2021, 05:01:53 PM
Oh, yeah. That's in a parking lot. That's nowhere near as interesting :-D
Sorry. Was just trying to share something that I found interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Harvestman on March 25, 2021, 12:55:15 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 24, 2021, 05:01:53 PM
Oh, yeah. That's in a parking lot. That's nowhere near as interesting :-D
Sorry. Was just trying to share something that I found interesting.

Rest assured it's still an awful sign and more than interesting enough for this thread.

But if it was installed by a primary agency (so to speak), that would put it at another level of awfulness.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 01:30:30 AM
This "[WA]-520 ahead" shield is pretty shit:

Tosh Road, Redmond, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/SLswywV5ynHKgXDM6).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51070287427_af78dd4d17_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 01:30:30 AM
This "[WA]-520 ahead" shield is pretty shit:

Tosh Road, Redmond, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/SLswywV5ynHKgXDM6).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51070287427_af78dd4d17_k.jpg)


It is pretty.  But it is also shit.

Good choice of words.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 25, 2021, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 01:30:30 AM
This "[WA]-520 ahead" shield is pretty shit:

Tosh Road, Redmond, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/SLswywV5ynHKgXDM6).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51070287427_af78dd4d17_k.jpg)

To call that thing a shield is an insult to actually respectable shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 25, 2021, 11:57:00 AM
One last photo before leaving Chicago. Taken on W Lawrence at the Kennedy Expressway.

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_6129.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 12:01:32 PM
I kind of like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 25, 2021, 12:22:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 12:01:32 PM
I kind of like that.

It's much harder to notice that the red part says "WEST" instead of "INTERSTATE", which is vital information.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 25, 2021, 12:22:19 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 12:01:32 PM
I kind of like that.

It's much harder to notice that the red part says "WEST" instead of "INTERSTATE", which is vital information.

Oh.  I totally didn't catch that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 25, 2021, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 25, 2021, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 01:30:30 AM
This "[WA]-520 ahead" shield is pretty shit:

Tosh Road, Redmond, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/SLswywV5ynHKgXDM6).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51070287427_af78dd4d17_k.jpg)

To call that thing a shield is an insult to actually respectable shields.

I mean, it's kind of better that it's not trying to be a shield. I'd rather have something like this than the I-75 Macon shield at the top of the page. Better to stick to what you know and gets the job done, rather than to try something too ambitious and fail hard at it.

My only suggestion would be a space or hyphen after "SR".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 25, 2021, 03:29:29 PM
... than the I-75 Macon shield at the top of the page.

Your post IS at the top of the page.   :-P

(https://i.imgur.com/Vby6d1Q.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on March 25, 2021, 05:55:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 25, 2021, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 25, 2021, 03:29:29 PM
... than the I-75 Macon shield at the top of the page.

Your post IS at the top of the page.   :-P

(https://i.imgur.com/Vby6d1Q.jpg)

That is weird, it is not for me neither. The I-75 Macon is the top for me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 25, 2021, 06:04:16 PM
For me, reply 5950 from ethanhopkin14 is at the top of the page. This is page 120 of this thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 08:39:44 PM
The standard settings are oldest to newest, 25 posts/page.

The Macon shield is at the top per those settings. If you change the settings, don't be surprised when references like that don't make sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 26, 2021, 11:17:02 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4Xh1DaYo9HkWvEhXA
Interesting Street blade with part of its lettering removed. The E and Left arrow were removed from a sign that once had both directions for CR 510 on US 202 South in Morristown, NJ.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 26, 2021, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 08:39:44 PM
The standard settings are oldest to newest, 25 posts/page.

The Macon shield is at the top per those settings. If you change the settings, don't be surprised when references like that don't make sense.

Oh, I'm not surprised.  I'm just pointing out that such references make zero sense to those of us with different settings.  Similarly, anyone saying something like "on page 61" will make no sense to anyone with a different number of posts per page.

And I figured an administrator would know that.   :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 26, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 26, 2021, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 25, 2021, 08:39:44 PM
The standard settings are oldest to newest, 25 posts/page.

The Macon shield is at the top per those settings. If you change the settings, don't be surprised when references like that don't make sense.

Oh, I'm not surprised.  I'm just pointing out that such references make zero sense to those of us with different settings.  Similarly, anyone saying something like "on page 61" will make no sense to anyone with a different number of posts per page.

And I figured an administrator would know that.   :bigass:

Maybe I know but just don't care. You figured out which 75 sign I meant, didn't you? :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 26, 2021, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 26, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Maybe I know but just don't care. You figured out which 75 sign I meant, didn't you? :bigass:

Didn't need to look actually.  I remembered it, because it's JUST. THAT. BAD!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on March 30, 2021, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 20, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/12zoSjMNY5GFEJ1Q8

US 460 EB at VA 168  in Norfolk has this weird assembly and old style KEEP RIGHT as well.
Here is an updated (GSV 2018--above was GSV 2014) version of the area...

https://goo.gl/maps/B7hLpRkajXpNngug8

Notice the US 60/I-64 reference has been moved to a pole beside the turn lane instead of ahead of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 30, 2021, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on March 30, 2021, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 20, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/12zoSjMNY5GFEJ1Q8

US 460 EB at VA 168  in Norfolk has this weird assembly and old style KEEP RIGHT as well.
Here is an updated (GSV 2018--above was GSV 2014) version of the area...

https://goo.gl/maps/B7hLpRkajXpNngug8

Notice the US 60/I-64 reference has been moved to a pole beside the turn lane instead of ahead of it.

Norfolk couldn't help themselves from using another compressed Clearview shield though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankford, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankfort, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79

Frankford Township.

https://goo.gl/maps/xbNPLQy6pUWTFMsc8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:56:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:46:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankfort, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79

Frankford Township.

https://goo.gl/maps/xbNPLQy6pUWTFMsc8

Autocorrect again.  Frankford like in Philly.  It did it again typing, butcorrected it back.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:56:43 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:46:30 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankfort, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79

Frankford Township.

https://goo.gl/maps/xbNPLQy6pUWTFMsc8

Autocorrect again.  Frankford like in Philly.  It did it again typing, butcorrected it back.

Anyway, Frankford Township is the northern terminus of NJ-15, hence the control.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 03:25:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 02:00:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:56:43 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:46:30 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankfort, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79

Frankford Township.

https://goo.gl/maps/xbNPLQy6pUWTFMsc8

Autocorrect again.  Frankford like in Philly.  It did it again typing, butcorrected it back.

Anyway, Frankford Township is the northern terminus of NJ-15, hence the control.
should  be Lafayette.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 31, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
I drove by this the other day and had to do a double take.  I don't think I had ever seen this verbiage before.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
I drove by this the other day and had to do a double take.  I don't think I had ever seen this verbiage before.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Chris


😅
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 03:25:52 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 02:00:56 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:56:43 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:46:30 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankfort, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79

Frankford Township.

https://goo.gl/maps/xbNPLQy6pUWTFMsc8

Autocorrect again.  Frankford like in Philly.  It did it again typing, butcorrected it back.

Anyway, Frankford Township is the northern terminus of NJ-15, hence the control.

should  be Lafayette.

Why?  NJ-15 extends beyond the Lafayette/Frankford township line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
I drove by this the other day and had to do a double take.  I don't think I had ever seen this verbiage before.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Chris

Do you mean "Ramp Only"? I've seen that in several places in Florida on surface streets (https://goo.gl/maps/KQeKQ4za87i5TEL38) where the lane in question isn't really an "exit" but is a turn-only lane leading to a highway on-ramp. For this circumstance, I like this better than using a small white sign saying "Right Lane Must Turn Right."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
I drove by this the other day and had to do a double take.  I don't think I had ever seen this verbiage before.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Chris

Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

The sign over the #2 lane is especially dumb. Just E. County Line, without Rd. Does I-25 NB take you to the east county line? Lol


Also, and off topic, spin the camera around. That is a very interesting signal setup..
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 31, 2021, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 03:55:17 PM
Do you mean "Ramp Only"? I've seen that in several places in Florida on surface streets (https://goo.gl/maps/KQeKQ4za87i5TEL38) where the lane in question isn't really an "exit" but is a turn-only lane leading to a highway on-ramp. For this circumstance, I like this better than using a small white sign saying "Right Lane Must Turn Right."

Yep.  I've just always only seen "Exit Only" when in a configuration like that.

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 31, 2021, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

That's the typical abbreviation for BGSs here.  Probably because Colorado Springs is around the largest amount of letters for a control city in the country.

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 04:33:54 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 31, 2021, 03:55:17 PM
Do you mean "Ramp Only"? I've seen that in several places in Florida on surface streets (https://goo.gl/maps/KQeKQ4za87i5TEL38) where the lane in question isn't really an "exit" but is a turn-only lane leading to a highway on-ramp. For this circumstance, I like this better than using a small white sign saying "Right Lane Must Turn Right."

Yep.  I've just always only seen "Exit Only" when in a configuration like that.

Chris

I assume the theory is what I note above–it's not necessarily an "exit" per se, especially if the ramp in question begins at a signal-controlled intersection. As someone who can be very particular in word usage, I kind of appreciate that someone at a transportation department respected the distinction!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 04:29:37 PM

Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

That's the typical abbreviation for BGSs here.  Probably because Colorado Springs is around the largest amount of letters for a control city in the country.

Yep. (https://goo.gl/maps/U4KumiNq5xNDD7ox5)  Totally (https://goo.gl/maps/itBtNNcMynZM8LWL6) normal. (https://goo.gl/maps/DG6U3C7Ty34LbuBt7)

The yellow tabs in that last one, though...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 31, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

I keep reading it as Colorado Spaghettis. I don't know why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 05:40:06 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 31, 2021, 05:14:05 PM

Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

I keep reading it as Colorado Spaghettis. I don't know why.

Pie? (https://www.tasteatlas.com/spaghetti-pie)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 31, 2021, 05:56:50 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 04:29:37 PM

Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

That's the typical abbreviation for BGSs here.  Probably because Colorado Springs is around the largest amount of letters for a control city in the country.

Yep. (https://goo.gl/maps/U4KumiNq5xNDD7ox5)  Totally (https://goo.gl/maps/itBtNNcMynZM8LWL6) normal. (https://goo.gl/maps/DG6U3C7Ty34LbuBt7)

The yellow tabs in that last one, though...

Is that allowed (the advisory speed in the yellow aspect of the BGS)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 31, 2021, 10:17:32 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on March 31, 2021, 03:39:35 PM
I drove by this the other day and had to do a double take.  I don't think I had ever seen this verbiage before.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5659872,-104.8756183,3a,75y,96.33h,101.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj3e7G9r8THyEQf6g30HLGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Chris

Mmmmm, it's one of those assemblies that isn't technically "wrong" per-say, but everything just looks off enough for it to be bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 01, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 31, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

I keep reading it as Colorado Spaghettis. I don't know why.

And most of the time, Coloradans refer to Colorado Springs as just "The Springs".  Conversely, most all other Colorado towns with "Springs" (Glenwood Springs, Manitou Springs, Steamboat Springs,...) are commonly referred to by their first name only (Glenwood, Manitou,  Steamboat,...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 01, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 01, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 31, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

I keep reading it as Colorado Spaghettis. I don't know why.

And most of the time, Coloradans refer to Colorado Springs as just "The Springs".  Conversely, most all other Colorado towns with "Springs" (Glenwood Springs, Manitou Springs, Steamboat Springs,...) are commonly referred to by their first name only (Glenwood, Manitou,  Steamboat,...)

And then Idaho Springs is just Idaho Springs.  We definitely lack consistency.

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 01, 2021, 10:19:29 PM
Interesting less for the sign itself and more for where it's placed.

https://goo.gl/maps/8fFk1zXmGrEL2AQM7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 01, 2021, 10:31:34 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 01, 2021, 09:18:05 PM

Quote from: thenetwork on April 01, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
And most of the time, Coloradans refer to Colorado Springs as just "The Springs".  Conversely, most all other Colorado towns with "Springs" (Glenwood Springs, Manitou Springs, Steamboat Springs,...) are commonly referred to by their first name only (Glenwood, Manitou,  Steamboat,...)

And then Idaho Springs is just Idaho Springs.  We definitely lack consistency.

Honestly, though, it would be awkward if people referred to it as "Idaho".

– Want to go hike up Saint Mary's Glacier with us this weekend?
– Sounds fun.  Where is that?
– It's over by Idaho.
– Geez, I'd love to, but...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 01, 2021, 11:58:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 03:25:52 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 02:00:56 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:56:43 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2021, 01:46:30 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2021, 01:42:49 PM
Frankfort, NJ?   Not even on the map, but listed as NJ 15's control city NB from US 46 on this sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/phttfjRMnntsBjP79

Frankford Township.

https://goo.gl/maps/xbNPLQy6pUWTFMsc8

Autocorrect again.  Frankford like in Philly.  It did it again typing, butcorrected it back.

Anyway, Frankford Township is the northern terminus of NJ-15, hence the control.

should  be Lafayette.

Why?  NJ-15 extends beyond the Lafayette/Frankford township line.

It's not listed on maps like Lafayette.  They could even use Milford being most traffic goes there anyhow.  Just like Montague is used for Route 23 north at the West Milford line.  True NJ 23 does end there, but the map shows it on Route 206 and no one ever looks for Montague on Route 23 but Port Jervis, NY post Suffern.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on April 02, 2021, 08:16:30 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 01, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 01, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 31, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

I keep reading it as Colorado Spaghettis. I don't know why.

And most of the time, Coloradans refer to Colorado Springs as just "The Springs".  Conversely, most all other Colorado towns with "Springs" (Glenwood Springs, Manitou Springs, Steamboat Springs,...) are commonly referred to by their first name only (Glenwood, Manitou,  Steamboat,...)

And then Idaho Springs is just Idaho Springs.  We definitely lack consistency.

Chris

i drove through there a few months ago and can't remember... is it 65 through there? seemed like the curves and traffic were a little dense for that speed.. especially below it, around the us-6 / central city pkwy exits...

or maybe i was a little dense..
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 02, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on April 02, 2021, 08:16:30 AM
Quote from: jayhawkco on April 01, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 01, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 31, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
Quote from: plain on March 31, 2021, 03:58:46 PM
Colo Spgs  :-D that just looks funny for some reason.

I keep reading it as Colorado Spaghettis. I don't know why.

And most of the time, Coloradans refer to Colorado Springs as just "The Springs".  Conversely, most all other Colorado towns with "Springs" (Glenwood Springs, Manitou Springs, Steamboat Springs,...) are commonly referred to by their first name only (Glenwood, Manitou,  Steamboat,...)

And then Idaho Springs is just Idaho Springs.  We definitely lack consistency.

Chris

i drove through there a few months ago and can't remember... is it 65 through there? seemed like the curves and traffic were a little dense for that speed.. especially below it, around the us-6 / central city pkwy exits...

or maybe i was a little dense..

Yep.  65 as I remember.  There's definitely a couple of turns coming into town from Denver that don't have advisory speed limits that 65 is a little too high unless you're driving a Porsche.

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 02, 2021, 06:34:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 01, 2021, 10:19:29 PM
Interesting less for the sign itself and more for where it's placed.

https://goo.gl/maps/8fFk1zXmGrEL2AQM7

This is a situation where an overhead gantry is needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on April 03, 2021, 10:05:15 PM
Here's a 27 MPH sign posted in Torrance, CA (Los Angeles County).  This is on westbound 182nd Street where it zig-zags under I-405.  Torrance installed this advisory speed limit years ago to get drivers' attention.  (This was previously mentioned in a thread dating back to 2012).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51093867730_64d9c2627a_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on April 06, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Here's a few "signs" that aren't signs:

I stumbled on these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.933973,-78.8923142,3a,50.1y,22.53h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCq0gxcbXzpUqdxX-tAut2A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DCq0gxcbXzpUqdxX-tAut2A%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D242.75401%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) painted speed limit signs (also visible in aerial imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.934067,-78.8922745,43m/data=!3m1!1e3)) on the Scajaquada Expressway in Buffalo.  I thought it was neat and I was surprised to see they actually painted speed limit signs on the road instead of just text.

Here in Auburn last summer, a couple intersections got stop signs painted at the stop line (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9299306,-76.5678489,3a,28.3y,145.76h,73.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D72.55903%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) instead of the text "STOP".  The one I linked is the first one I saw.  I thought it was kind of neat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 06, 2021, 03:56:45 PM
Quote from: Michael on April 06, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Here's a few "signs" that aren't signs:

I stumbled on these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.933973,-78.8923142,3a,50.1y,22.53h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCq0gxcbXzpUqdxX-tAut2A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DCq0gxcbXzpUqdxX-tAut2A%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D242.75401%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) painted speed limit signs (also visible in aerial imagery (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.934067,-78.8922745,43m/data=!3m1!1e3)) on the Scajaquada Expressway in Buffalo.  I thought it was neat and I was surprised to see they actually painted speed limit signs on the road instead of just text.

Here in Auburn last summer, a couple intersections got stop signs painted at the stop line (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9299306,-76.5678489,3a,28.3y,145.76h,73.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D72.55903%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) instead of the text "STOP".  The one I linked is the first one I saw.  I thought it was kind of neat.

I agree; those are interesting.  It appears that unfortunately the stop signs aren't elongated (to appear as normal from the driver's angle) so they probably can't really be seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 06, 2021, 08:32:45 PM
Quote from: Michael on April 06, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Here in Auburn last summer, a couple intersections got stop signs painted at the stop line (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9299306,-76.5678489,3a,28.3y,145.76h,73.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D72.55903%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) instead of the text "STOP".  The one I linked is the first one I saw.  I thought it was kind of neat.

The closest parallel I can picture is the extremely rare "yield ahead" symbol (https://goo.gl/maps/5KG2u92ycvQX2wZv5) painted on the road, typically in advance of a yield situation (although sometimes right at the line instead).

Painted yield signs are quite common in other countries, but they're rare as hens teeth in the US despite being in the MUTCD (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part3/fig3b_26_longdesc.htm), with all examples I can think of being in Hawaii, the US's test bed for otherwise-unknown markings (https://goo.gl/maps/aKNKVkYb4C48oA6n9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 07, 2021, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 06, 2021, 08:32:45 PM

Quote from: Michael on April 06, 2021, 03:41:00 PM
Here in Auburn last summer, a couple intersections got stop signs painted at the stop line (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9299306,-76.5678489,3a,28.3y,145.76h,73.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaIs1ce8c396UsOf-uYdkbg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D72.55903%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) instead of the text "STOP".  The one I linked is the first one I saw.  I thought it was kind of neat.

The closest parallel I can picture is the extremely rare "yield ahead" symbol (https://goo.gl/maps/5KG2u92ycvQX2wZv5) painted on the road, typically in advance of a yield situation (although sometimes right at the line instead).

Painted yield signs are quite common in other countries, but they're rare as hens teeth in the US despite being in the MUTCD (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part3/fig3b_26_longdesc.htm), with all examples I can think of being in Hawaii, the US's test bed for otherwise-unknown markings (https://goo.gl/maps/aKNKVkYb4C48oA6n9).

I'm a big fan of those.  Man, I could swear I've seen them, but I don't know where.  Are they not somewhat more common at roundabout entries or crosswalks?  Maybe I'm just imagining things...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 07, 2021, 11:07:36 AM
Old verses new on Dallas North Tollway.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8381/8572488431_70ecf06028_z.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51100947142_9aa52a1d67_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 07, 2021, 08:11:54 PM
I like the old ones better
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 08:24:17 AM
This might be a candidate for the Worst of Road Signs, but under the current rules for that thread it probably doesn't qualify. Spelling error? Check. Outsized punctuation? Check. Off-center word? Check. (Plus the spelling error applies to an institution that no longer operates at the center in question!)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyZQ3wpWgAAdkR1?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 08, 2021, 09:12:39 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 08:24:17 AM
This might be a candidate for the Worst of Road Signs, but under the current rules for that thread it probably doesn't qualify. Spelling error? Check. Outsized punctuation? Check. Off-center word? Check. (Plus the spelling error applies to an institution that no longer operates at the center in question!)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyZQ3wpWgAAdkR1?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Probably not quite good enough for the Worst Of. I think a good criteria for being considered Worst Of is the classic "It's so bad, it's good" montra.

Also, what's the spelling error here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 09:14:33 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 08, 2021, 09:12:39 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 08:24:17 AM
This might be a candidate for the Worst of Road Signs, but under the current rules for that thread it probably doesn't qualify. Spelling error? Check. Outsized punctuation? Check. Off-center word? Check. (Plus the spelling error applies to an institution that no longer operates at the center in question!)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyZQ3wpWgAAdkR1?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Probably not quite good enough for the Worst Of. I think a good criteria for being considered Worst Of is the classic "It's so bad, it's good" montra.

Also, what's the spelling error here?

The University of Virginia is abbreviated as "UVA." "UAV" refers to a drone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 08, 2021, 10:04:40 AM
Does anybody remember when I posted the German National Forest sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a green outline? Here's a German No Fishing sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a blue outline.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_(9527975311).jpg

And this is my 2,800th post, but I'm not going to post a sign for that. NY 28 is strictly an upstate thing for me.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on April 08, 2021, 10:24:20 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 08, 2021, 09:14:33 AM
The University of Virginia is abbreviated as "UVA." "UAV" refers to a drone.

Even funnier, Virginia Tech has a new UAV facility near its on-campus golf course in Blacksburg. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 08, 2021, 10:26:25 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 08, 2021, 10:04:40 AM
Does anybody remember when I posted the German National Forest sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a green outline? Here's a German No Fishing sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a blue outline.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_(9527975311).jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_%289527975311%29.jpg/800px-Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_%289527975311%29.jpg)

My German is a little weak, but I think that means Yield to Fish Gone Bezerk?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on April 08, 2021, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 08, 2021, 10:26:25 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 08, 2021, 10:04:40 AM
Does anybody remember when I posted the German National Forest sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a green outline? Here's a German No Fishing sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a blue outline.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_(9527975311).jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_%289527975311%29.jpg/800px-Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_%289527975311%29.jpg)

My German is a little weak, but I think that means Yield to Fish Gone Bezerk?

Literally, "Beautiful Fish District."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 08, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
Oh, and here I thought it was berserk but beautiful fish crossing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: transplanted on April 10, 2021, 01:14:08 AM
Unusual parking sign in Pasadena CA. Haven't seen this anywhere else, and can't tell if it's a trial by the city or something put up by a neighbor, but it's nicely done and I wouldn't mind seeing this (or something like it) used more widely.
(https://i.imgur.com/dvBIVb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 10, 2021, 11:40:49 AM
My neighborhood needs a sign like that. Some people insist on leaving at least half a carlength. Big waste of space.

My wife got mad at me the other day when I didn't leave a lot of room between her car and the car behind it, but she didn't have a response when I pointed out that the car behind it is also hers and is at the back of the row of cars (closest to the corner), so if she thinks she can't get out, she can just back the other car up, pull out, then pull the other car back to where it was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 10, 2021, 11:42:40 AM
It looks like the sign might have been a citizen install, just based on the hardware and the look (design and retro-reflectivity) of the sign. I'd say it's pretty decent all things considered, though it probably could be simplified a bit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 10, 2021, 12:18:02 PM
There's only one thing more infuriating than seeing someone parked half a car length from the end of the curb, or half a car length from the car in front of or behind them: watching them do it and walk away like they haven't just committed a heinous crime against their community.

2 to 3 ft seems generous, personally. I might say 2 ft max; ideally maybe 1.5 ft. It's okay to tap a bumper. Or at least it is along my block.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on April 10, 2021, 01:00:34 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on April 08, 2021, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 08, 2021, 10:26:25 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 08, 2021, 10:04:40 AM
Does anybody remember when I posted the German National Forest sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a green outline? Here's a German No Fishing sign shaped like the International Yield sign but with a blue outline.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_(9527975311).jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_%289527975311%29.jpg/800px-Langenargen_Schild_Fischschonbezirk_%289527975311%29.jpg)

My German is a little weak, but I think that means Yield to Fish Gone Bezerk?

Literally, "Beautiful Fish District."

My German is weaker than a leetul guhhhl, but I thought, "hey, shouldn't this be 'schön' for 'beautiful'?". But a little googling shows that schön and schon have a common origin, and schon (already) earlier meant beautiful as well. TIL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 10, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
Normally those "No Motor Vehicles" signs don't have additional messages on the bottom, but some of them in Clearwater, Florida on the Pinellas Trail do:
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9726144,-82.7973303,3a,15y,9.89h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfzCWw5e7VEoTah_oW2grg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9726144,-82.7973303,3a,15y,9.89h,88.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbfzCWw5e7VEoTah_oW2grg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Which means now I want to grab a picture of one of them someday. I'm also curious about this one.
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9595475,-82.7969059,3a,15y,176.02h,92.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU1RhFgNyve1jijGlzG1mCg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9595475,-82.7969059,3a,15y,176.02h,92.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU1RhFgNyve1jijGlzG1mCg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
I was a bit puzzled about this one, but now I'm starting to think it meant "No Whistles" and it was directed at the parallel train tracks.





Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 10, 2021, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 10, 2021, 12:18:02 PM
There's only one thing more infuriating than seeing someone parked half a car length from the end of the curb, or half a car length from the car in front of or behind them: watching them do it and walk away like they haven't just committed a heinous crime against their community.

2 to 3 ft seems generous, personally. I might say 2 ft max; ideally maybe 1.5 ft. It's okay to tap a bumper. Or at least it is along my block.

That is a mega sore spot of mine, especially on the days every three years when our street is blocked off for sealcoating:

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 09, 2019, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 31, 2019, 06:58:19 PM
Our street is closed every few years when the HOA has it sealcoated. Nobody's allowed to drive on it, though some people always ignore the yellow tape and drive on it anyway. The maddening part to me is that a lot of our neighbors have no clue how to parallel park and leave way too much space between cars when we all need to park around the corner.

Reading this thread again made me remember I had grumbled about this in a prior thread, so I found my prior post with photo (edited here to remove an unrelated matter). The guy with the white minivan moved away a few years ago. He was by far the worst person in the neighborhood about this. Most people here leave too much space when they parallel park, but they don't carry it to this much of an extreme. On a normal day, it's not a big deal if people don't close up the gaps nice and tight because there's excess capacity on this street. But when they're sealcoating, everyone has to park on this street (unless you have an extra car such that, like me, you just leave one in the garage out of the way so as not to take up a space someone else needs), so parking like this to take up two spots is a complete dick move. (Note my comment below–in this case I had been parked there before him and this knew he had parked squarely in the middle.)

The street shown here is a VDOT street, whereas we live around the corner on an HOA street, hence the different maintenance schedules.

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 20, 2015, 04:24:21 PM
....

Quote from: NJRoadfan on February 20, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
2. If they have to resurface the roads every 3 years (mill and pave) they are doing something very wrong. A proper pave of a light traffic street should last at least 10-15 years, even in the snowbelt.

They don't do a full milling and paving. I think they call it "sealcoating," though I'm not sure–the contractor comes out and does something and when they're done the street is a nice fresh black color with any cracks and other such stuff filled in. Either way, they tell us in advance and for two days we have to park around the corner.

Actually, that led to its own issue last time when the guy in front of me left at the same time I did, then we came back to find the guy up the street with "Diplomat" plates had parked squarely in the middle of the vacated space, i.e., there was space for two vehicles and he parked so half his vehicle took up each of the two "spaces." That one burned me up because it seemed like a situation where it should be obvious you shouldn't leave excess space because everyone had to park down there (and I did my part by putting the car we weren't going to drive in the garage so as to free up on-street space). I don't know whether he was intentionally being an asshole, whether he was being a dick because he knows his Diplomat plates let him get away with stuff, or whether he doesn't know how to parallel park and he took up too much space because he was afraid he wouldn't be able to get back out. (Doesn't matter anymore, the guy moved away last year.)

See below. I remember this all too clearly. I was parked in front of the Honda to the right and a neighbor was parked between my car and the Toyota to the left. We both left at the same time and I came back 15 minutes later to find the minivan parked like this on a day when all the on-street parking was taken due to the roadwork being done. If we lived in New York or Boston, I doubt it would have gone well for him....

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc378%2F1995hoo%2F7edb6701.jpg&hash=65f9040ff9e31db081dfc258b0a5508c67c79061)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on April 10, 2021, 05:27:48 PM
This is more an 'unusual placement' for a sign. Normally I see Yield signs and the 'end' of the turn lane; this one is posted before you start the turn.  It is on eastbound CA 138 at Pearblossom Highway, at Four Corners (Palmdale), CA.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51108606355_d377e80d23_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 10, 2021, 05:56:23 PM
I-15 Exit 23.9 Zzyzx Road:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51057251392_f6310931c7_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kMKL2N)IMG_7856 (https://flic.kr/p/2kMKL2N) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 10, 2021, 07:42:52 PM
How does one even pronounce Zzyzx? Ziz-iks?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on April 10, 2021, 07:44:37 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 10, 2021, 07:42:52 PM
How does one even pronounce Zzyzx? Ziz-iks?

Apparently there are several songs that have it as a lyric. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 10, 2021, 07:51:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 10, 2021, 12:18:02 PM
There's only one thing more infuriating than seeing someone parked half a car length from the end of the curb, or half a car length from the car in front of or behind them: watching them do it and walk away like they haven't just committed a heinous crime against their community.

2 to 3 ft seems generous, personally. I might say 2 ft max; ideally maybe 1.5 ft. It's okay to tap a bumper. Or at least it is along my block.
Someone "tapped" my bumper a couple of years ago.  Their license plate dug deep scratches into it.  Turned out they were driving with an expired registration.  That was fun, given the repair costs and insurance...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on April 11, 2021, 12:40:41 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 10, 2021, 07:42:52 PM
How does one even pronounce Zzyzx? Ziz-iks?
Reminds me of "xyzzy" . Wonder if Will Crowther, though an East Coast guy, was influenced by knowledge of Zzyzx road when he came up with "xyzzy" . A maze of twisty passages, all different.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on April 11, 2021, 10:28:13 PM
When you use demountable copy, need a "y" but don't have any, what do you do? You cut the top off of a "g" and use it instead.

There are a couple of these along the Hal Rogers Parkway between London and Manchester; here's one example. This is from the KYTC Photolog, as I didn't have my camera with me yesterday.


(https://roadview-images.kytc.ky.gov/Van2_Mandli_Data_10/11-26-2019/2019_V3_063-HR-9006E/2019_V3_063-HR-9006E/Right/Dir_008/R_00895.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 12, 2021, 02:00:09 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 10, 2021, 07:51:14 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 10, 2021, 12:18:02 PM
There's only one thing more infuriating than seeing someone parked half a car length from the end of the curb, or half a car length from the car in front of or behind them: watching them do it and walk away like they haven't just committed a heinous crime against their community.

2 to 3 ft seems generous, personally. I might say 2 ft max; ideally maybe 1.5 ft. It's okay to tap a bumper. Or at least it is along my block.
Someone "tapped" my bumper a couple of years ago.  Their license plate dug deep scratches into it.  Turned out they were driving with an expired registration.  That was fun, given the repair costs and insurance...

They clearly weren't in-tune with the nuances of "the tap"!

Not to sound like Larry David or anything, but there is a science to it. It helps to drive a manual for very precise low-speed movements, but you can tap without damaging a car. I don't meant to imply that it's how you should always parallel park, but it's not the end of the world if you do it correctly. In fact, done correctly, there's no way anyone can tell.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on April 12, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 10, 2021, 02:08:26 PM
Which means now I want to grab a picture of one of them someday. I'm also curious about this one.
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9595475,-82.7969059,3a,15y,176.02h,92.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU1RhFgNyve1jijGlzG1mCg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9595475,-82.7969059,3a,15y,176.02h,92.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sU1RhFgNyve1jijGlzG1mCg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
I was a bit puzzled about this one, but now I'm starting to think it meant "No Whistles" and it was directed at the parallel train tracks.

You are correct. That sign indicates to the train crew that the next grade crossing is a "quiet zone" meaning they cannot blow their horn for the crossing, unless it's an emergency.
Adding on to that, this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@27.9572786,-82.7969618,3a,23.4y,188.67h,86.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swMwT2NWQ0yC-6zvh5_SzSg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) at the next grade crossing south, but facing northward has an "X" beneath the "quiet zone" sign, indicating to the crew that there are MULTIPLE "quiet" grade crossings ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Flint1979 on April 12, 2021, 10:01:31 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 10, 2021, 07:42:52 PM
How does one even pronounce Zzyzx? Ziz-iks?
Zye-zix
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kenarmy on April 12, 2021, 10:19:51 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.3519355,-90.2274197,3a,90y,334.67h,86.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXsQycng9CTgHE2pJRSRcqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I hate that I have to pass by this sign so often. I mean technically the signage is right, but why not just put "JCT 220 49"? Why is 49 NORTH not mentioned when it's literally on the same roadway in 1/2 mile? There's a matching one of the opposite side of 220.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2021, 02:08:16 AM
Where else do you see "No Open Fire" road signs besides the Sunshine Skyway Rest Areas?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I-275_rest_area_70360-29.jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on April 13, 2021, 09:31:30 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 11, 2021, 10:28:13 PM
When you use demountable copy, need a "y" but don't have any, what do you do? You cut the top off of a "g" and use it instead.

There are a couple of these along the Hal Rogers Parkway between London and Manchester; here's one example. This is from the KYTC Photolog, as I didn't have my camera with me yesterday.


(https://roadview-images.kytc.ky.gov/Van2_Mandli_Data_10/11-26-2019/2019_V3_063-HR-9006E/2019_V3_063-HR-9006E/Right/Dir_008/R_00895.jpg)


The hilarious part of this is I totally read the sign as if they'd done nothing to the lowercase g they used. I looked at it and actually went "what's Hgden?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 13, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51113838951/
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113838951_6bbd76da61_k.jpg)
Notice the keep left sign to keep people from driving the narrow sidewalk.  Yeah right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 14, 2021, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51113838951/
Notice the keep left sign to keep people from driving the narrow sidewalk.  Yeah right.

Or it means keep left at the upcoming roundabout.   :awesomeface:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2021, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51113838951/
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113838951_6bbd76da61_k.jpg)
Notice the keep left sign to keep people from driving the narrow sidewalk.  Yeah right.

Definitely a candidate for the "Right idea, wrong sign" thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 14, 2021, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2021, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51113838951/
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113838951_6bbd76da61_k.jpg)
Notice the keep left sign to keep people from driving the narrow sidewalk.  Yeah right.

Definitely a candidate for the "Right idea, wrong sign" thread.

I wonder whether some people tried to drive on that sidewalk and either damaged their vehicles or caused other trouble, thus prompting installation of that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2021, 04:12:37 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 14, 2021, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2021, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2021, 11:35:47 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51113838951/
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113838951_6bbd76da61_k.jpg)
Notice the keep left sign to keep people from driving the narrow sidewalk.  Yeah right.

Definitely a candidate for the "Right idea, wrong sign" thread.

I wonder whether some people tried to drive on that sidewalk and either damaged their vehicles or caused other trouble, thus prompting installation of that sign.

Possibly. The right sign would be an OM3-R, though:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/MUTCD_OM3-R.svg/162px-MUTCD_OM3-R.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 14, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
BC MOTI just posted this on their Flickr. That BC-93/95 shield is not something I've ever seen:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113714752_853d20206e_b.jpg)

Kicking Horse Canyon Project Closure Signs (https://flic.kr/p/2kSK9C1) by B.C. Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 14, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5049303,-99.5028886,3a,19.4y,206.64h,82.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd5LaXBKMSCqQE1GPJ8oh2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Spanish-language construction signs (possibly Mexican spec?) in Laredo, Texas. Looks like the banquet's closed, so I need to use the other ladle. I think.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 14, 2021, 11:36:05 PM
QuoteThat BC-93/95 shield is not something I've ever seen

It's yuuuuge!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 15, 2021, 12:29:12 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 14, 2021, 11:36:05 PM
QuoteThat BC-93/95 shield is not something I've ever seen

It's yuuuuge!
Fuccillo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J3ebrules on April 15, 2021, 01:25:48 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5049303,-99.5028886,3a,19.4y,206.64h,82.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd5LaXBKMSCqQE1GPJ8oh2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Spanish-language construction signs (possibly Mexican spec?) in Laredo, Texas. Looks like the banquet's closed, so I need to use the other ladle. I think.
Unless I’m thinking of the wrong dialect, the actual Spanish translation doesn’t make much more sense: “Bench closed, use other side.” That’s an awful lot of construction stuff for a closed bench.

Also, weird false cognate, banqueta. I was LMAO at your sentence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kenarmy on April 15, 2021, 02:06:12 AM
Quote from: J3ebrules on April 15, 2021, 01:25:48 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5049303,-99.5028886,3a,19.4y,206.64h,82.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd5LaXBKMSCqQE1GPJ8oh2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Spanish-language construction signs (possibly Mexican spec?) in Laredo, Texas. Looks like the banquet's closed, so I need to use the other ladle. I think.
Unless I'm thinking of the wrong dialect, the actual Spanish translation doesn't make much more sense: "Bench closed, use other side."  That's an awful lot of construction stuff for a closed bench.

Also, weird false cognate, banqueta. I was LMAO at your sentence.
It could also mean sidewalk but I don't think that does much justice either  :-D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on April 15, 2021, 09:41:08 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 14, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
BC MOTI just posted this on their Flickr. That BC-93/95 shield is not something I've ever seen:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113714752_853d20206e_b.jpg)

Kicking Horse Canyon Project Closure Signs (https://flic.kr/p/2kSK9C1) by B.C. Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/), on Flickr

It's even more interesting that BC actually used the FHWA font in that gigantic BC 93/95 shield. They usually use Helvetica for their provincial route shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 15, 2021, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 14, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.5049303,-99.5028886,3a,19.4y,206.64h,82.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd5LaXBKMSCqQE1GPJ8oh2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Spanish-language construction signs (possibly Mexican spec?) in Laredo, Texas. Looks like the banquet's closed, so I need to use the other ladle. I think.

Those are not Mexican spec, which would have both of those signs as rectangles rather than diamonds.  However, that just makes one of them even more interesting.  The DESVIACIÃ"N arrow bears very striking resemblance to the real deal, and this cannot have been mere coincidence.  Someone obviously took the trouble of making that sign look as familiar as possible to Mexicans while still adhering to the US diamond=warning convention.

(https://i.imgur.com/tfyX17n.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 15, 2021, 02:46:58 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on April 15, 2021, 09:41:08 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 14, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
BC MOTI just posted this on their Flickr. That BC-93/95 shield is not something I've ever seen:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51113714752_853d20206e_b.jpg)

Kicking Horse Canyon Project Closure Signs (https://flic.kr/p/2kSK9C1) by B.C. Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/), on Flickr

It's even more interesting that BC actually used the FHWA font in that gigantic BC 93/95 shield. They usually use Helvetica for their provincial route shields.

That's a very good observation! I didn't notice that at all. Hell, there's more Clearview shields than FHWA shields around BC.

It's particularly strange when you consider that, besides the Hwy 1 shield, the entire assembly is in Clearview. If something other than Helvetica were to be used, you'd think it would be the typeface used across the rest of the sign instead of another font that was discarded by the MOT 15 years ago (with some exceptions, of course).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 07:45:50 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/XvuTLgYMV2mvyLEL7

I did not know NY Thruway Authority uses Arial.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 15, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
^^ That is actually Helvetica.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 15, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
^^ That is actually Helvetica.
Sorry my bad
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on April 15, 2021, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 15, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
^^ That is actually Helvetica.
Sorry my bad


Those signs are very old. I'm guessing maybe 20+ years old?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ricw24 on April 16, 2021, 09:39:25 AM
Quote from: machias on April 15, 2021, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 15, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
^^ That is actually Helvetica.
Sorry my bad


Those signs are very old. I'm guessing maybe 20+ years old?

The exit tab style is also different from the current Thruway style so I am assuming it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 16, 2021, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: machias on April 15, 2021, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on April 15, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
^^ That is actually Helvetica.
Sorry my bad


Those signs are very old. I'm guessing maybe 20+ years old?

They are probably closer to 25 years old.

And still the I-190 "pull-through" sign still has an error: 

The sign leads you believe that the exit TO I-190 North / Niagara Falls is 5 Miles Ahead, in the same vein as the Beaver Park exit being 1/4-mile ahead.  Or better yet, like an Illinois Tollway next exit sign.

When in fact the sign is really trying to say is that you are ALREADY on I-190 North, and the distance to Niagara Falls (city limit, not the actual falls) is 5 miles. 

Confused?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 07:45:50 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/XvuTLgYMV2mvyLEL7

I did not know NY Thruway Authority uses Arial.

Quote from: Ricw24 on April 15, 2021, 08:02:59 PM

Quote from: Big John on April 15, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
^^ That is actually Helvetica.

Sorry my bad

Around here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12051.0), that's known as Arialveticverstesk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fwydriver405 on April 16, 2021, 11:51:03 AM
A little cheap, pt. II? I came across this I-95 assembly in Portsmouth NH on 2021/04/13, which kinda reminded me of a similar assembly from Alp's I-95 New Hampshire page (https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nh/i-95/) (first picture on the top):

(https://i.ibb.co/jLrLJWt/IMG-2221.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gDRD4PY)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 11:16:26 AM
Around here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12051.0), that's known as Arialveticverstesk.

I know that was Jake's preferred nomenclature, because Arial, Helvetica, Univers, and Akzidenz-Grotesk do all look fairly similar to one another at first glance. But I prefer to note which of the four a specific sign is, because it reveals a little bit about the person who made it:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on April 16, 2021, 04:24:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Helvetica indicates the person was in charge of a sign has a little bit of design experience, enough to know that Helvetica is considered preferable to Arial.

...or they're a rank amateur using a Mac instead of Windows  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 16, 2021, 04:26:56 PM
Quote from: odditude on April 16, 2021, 04:24:49 PM

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2021, 03:37:42 PM
Helvetica indicates the person was in charge of a sign has a little bit of design experience, enough to know that Helvetica is considered preferable to Arial.

...or they're a rank amateur using a Mac instead of Windows  :-P

That's the correct answer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 19, 2021, 11:03:33 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51125069597_144249b8ec_b.jpg)

I'm confused... which way do I go?

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ricw24 on April 19, 2021, 11:22:25 AM
This.

https://goo.gl/maps/RhisUL9khGVnY2AC9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on April 19, 2021, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 19, 2021, 11:22:25 AM
This.

https://goo.gl/maps/RhisUL9khGVnY2AC9

The offspring of an interstate and a MD state highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ricw24 on April 19, 2021, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on April 19, 2021, 11:42:00 AM
The offspring of an interstate and a MD state highway.

Kinda reminds me of the Chinese Expressway Marker

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/China_Expwy_G3_sign_no_name.svg/1280px-China_Expwy_G3_sign_no_name.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 19, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 19, 2021, 11:22:25 AM
This.

https://goo.gl/maps/RhisUL9khGVnY2AC9

Oh hey, it's this thing again.

I've always thought that would be a good design for a "future interstate" marker. Like it's the marble block an Interstate shield gets chiseled out of, or something like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 20, 2021, 12:43:55 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 19, 2021, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: Ricw24 on April 19, 2021, 11:22:25 AM
This.

https://goo.gl/maps/RhisUL9khGVnY2AC9

Oh hey, it's this thing again.

I've always thought that would be a good design for a "future interstate" marker. Like it's the marble block an Interstate shield gets chiseled out of, or something like that.

There's has to be a short story behind those signs; it probably involves 1) adamant desire to denote nearest interstate 2) pre-cut blanks 3) no working metal cutter 4) signs need to be up...yesterday.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 20, 2021, 01:50:46 AM
I don't know why you wouldn't just print the shield on a black background like Wisconsin does, in that case. Maybe it was somebody from Maryland or Minnesota that designed the shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on April 20, 2021, 11:53:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114Arial means a rank amateur was put in charge of making a sign, who probably barely knows what fonts are other than being able to tell the difference between serif and sans-serif, so they just go with the first sans-serif they can think of. (The same is true of the choice of any Windows system font, such as Franklin Gothic.)

In the commercial sign industry there is an army of hacks who frequently use default Arial regardless how visually toxic the typeface can look combined with other letter styles. Arial is ugly enough on its own. It gets even more hideous when people artificially squeeze or stretch it to fit any space.

Some of the people who use Arial in knee-jerk fashion are newbies who don't know any better. But I've seen plenty of people who have worked in the sign industry many years who do the same thing out of sheer laziness. Those are the guys I want to punch in the mouth. There's no excuse for it but they do it anyway, despite probably having at least an acceptable font collection. Every copy of CorelDRAW comes with 1000 decent quality fonts. An Adobe Creative Cloud subscription gains access to the Adobe Fonts service featuring over 2000 type families from dozens of different type foundries. Google Fonts has dozens of good quality typefaces; some are even Variable Fonts. Speaking of Variable Fonts, some of those are pretty amazing.

Anyway, it takes a real dunder-head to stick Arial in a highway sign layout.

Quote from: Scott5114Helvetica indicates the person was in charge of a sign has a little bit of design experience, enough to know that Helvetica is considered preferable to Arial. They also probably know that Helvetica is the designer's default sans-serif of choice, so it's probably safe to go with. They may be familiar with New York subway signage, or some other context that Helvetica is used on signage, and reason that it would make sense to be on a road sign too.

Helvetica has an enduring popularity, given its history. It has a clean, neutral look. But it doesn't go with everything. Sometimes when I see Helvetica in use I suspect the person who did the design work was using a Mac. Various weights of Helvetica and Helvetica Neue have been included in the MacOS (and iOS) for decades. So it can end up being just as bad a default as Arial, even though Helvetica isn't nearly as ugly as Arial.

Quote from: Scott5114I've never seen Univers or Akzidenz-Grotesk on a road sign, but I would expect that someone choosing one of those fonts knows full well that they don't have the right font and just don't have a copy of FHWA Series or Clearview installed, so they probably looked through all of the fonts that they did have trying to find something that was a reasonably close match.

Univers and especially Akzidenz Grotesk aren't as widely available as Arial or even Helvetica. If I see either in use I wonder if they're actually knock-off fonts. CorelDRAW has a number of them. Zurich is an imitation of Univers. Gothic 725 is an imitation of Akzidenz Grotesk. You have to go back a really long way to find the real Akzidenz Grotesk bundled with any graphics software. I got the full AG family in Postscript Type 1 format as a bundle with Adobe Illustrator 4 back in the early 1990's. Those are really old T1 font files with limited character sets. I'll have to make conversions of them fairly soon if I want to use them in the future. Adobe is dropping Type 1 font support from all its software over the next year or two.

BTW, I have actually seen Univers (or more likely Zurich) used on a couple turnpike signs back in the 1990's.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 21, 2021, 08:19:21 AM
RE: The Arial debate

As bad as Arial is, have any of you seen how Arial looks on Chrome OS? It makes Windows Arial look like heavenly in comparison.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 22, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
A comment HTM Duke made in the "Reversible Lanes" thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29042.msg2598750#msg2598750) prompted me to look at Street View for Harry S. Truman Drive in Largo, Maryland, to see what it looks like now, as I haven't been that way in quite a few years.

I found the rather peculiar LGS on the left. Not too informative, is it??!!!! (https://goo.gl/maps/rJLdZa2hryENHM2V9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on April 22, 2021, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 22, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
A comment HTM Duke made in the "Reversible Lanes" thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29042.msg2598750#msg2598750) prompted me to look at Street View for Harry S. Truman Drive in Largo, Maryland, to see what it looks like now, as I haven't been that way in quite a few years.

I found the rather peculiar LGS on the left. Not too informative, is it??!!!! (https://goo.gl/maps/rJLdZa2hryENHM2V9)
And it's not even accurate, there should technically be 3 down arrows :bigass:

(I'm assuming it used to display [insert name of sports arena demolished in that area]?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 22, 2021, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 22, 2021, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 22, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
A comment HTM Duke made in the "Reversible Lanes" thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29042.msg2598750#msg2598750) prompted me to look at Street View for Harry S. Truman Drive in Largo, Maryland, to see what it looks like now, as I haven't been that way in quite a few years.

I found the rather peculiar LGS on the left. Not too informative, is it??!!!! (https://goo.gl/maps/rJLdZa2hryENHM2V9)
And it's not even accurate, there should technically be 3 down arrows :bigass:

(I'm assuming it used to display [insert name of sports arena demolished in that area]?)

The Capital Centre (also periodically known to some people as USAir Arena or US Airways Arena at various times). I can't say as I recall whether it ever said that, simply because it's just been too long since I last visited the Capital Centre, which was demolished in 2002. The road configuration was different when I was growing up–there was no overpass over Central Avenue for traffic going to the arena and instead you exited to the right via what was more like a glorified jughandle that curved back around and crossed Central Avenue at grade. Also, the rest of the area was far less developed than it is now and I don't recall whether there were other roads intersecting that one prior to reaching the arena parking lots. Historic Aerials has a long gap between 1981 and 1993.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on April 22, 2021, 09:34:09 AM
A little more GSV clicking in the area revealed 2 signs on Largo Center Drive (which intersects Harry S. Truman Drive in the GSV you linked above):

-Another covered-up sign like the one you linked (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8963772,-76.8385784,3a,49.6y,252.72h,90.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY4MXeshLLXLMug7CN1PanQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en)
-A sign that appears to have been forgotten about, displaying "USAir Arena" (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8981598,-76.8359702,3a,75y,181.39h,89.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQl6YKzaiyAhobbv-3hq9_Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on April 22, 2021, 01:38:08 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 22, 2021, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 22, 2021, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 22, 2021, 08:43:14 AM
A comment HTM Duke made in the "Reversible Lanes" thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29042.msg2598750#msg2598750) prompted me to look at Street View for Harry S. Truman Drive in Largo, Maryland, to see what it looks like now, as I haven't been that way in quite a few years.

I found the rather peculiar LGS on the left. Not too informative, is it??!!!! (https://goo.gl/maps/rJLdZa2hryENHM2V9)
And it's not even accurate, there should technically be 3 down arrows :bigass:

(I'm assuming it used to display [insert name of sports arena demolished in that area]?)

The Capital Centre (also periodically known to some people as USAir Arena or US Airways Arena at various times). I can't say as I recall whether it ever said that, simply because it's just been too long since I last visited the Capital Centre, which was demolished in 2002. The road configuration was different when I was growing up–there was no overpass over Central Avenue for traffic going to the arena and instead you exited to the right via what was more like a glorified jughandle that curved back around and crossed Central Avenue at grade. Also, the rest of the area was far less developed than it is now and I don't recall whether there were other roads intersecting that one prior to reaching the arena parking lots. Historic Aerials has a long gap between 1981 and 1993.

Those blank signs did say USAir Arena, as they were installed as part of a improvement project around 1995 to convert the old jughandle exit into the interchange it is today.  (It could be argued that it was a waste of time and money too, as Abe Pollin shortly thereafter moved the Wizards and Capitals downtown to his then-new MCI Center in 1997.)  Now-replaced signage  (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8950127,-76.8378532,3a,15y,73.95h,98.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6yt165PCqycm49WIo99kyg!2e0!5s20171001T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)on MD-214 east originally said USAir Arena as well, and was later greened out or patched over with Largo Town Center.  The same went for signage  (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8939229,-76.8362679,3a,19.1y,246.08h,96.75t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sgoR0yguxTvdP-y8RfhrrOA!2e0!5s20170801T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)on the ramp to H S Truman north itself.

Quote from: jmacswimmer on April 22, 2021, 09:34:09 AM
A little more GSV clicking in the area revealed 2 signs on Largo Center Drive (which intersects Harry S. Truman Drive in the GSV you linked above):

-Another covered-up sign like the one you linked (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8963772,-76.8385784,3a,49.6y,252.72h,90.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY4MXeshLLXLMug7CN1PanQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en)
-A sign that appears to have been forgotten about, displaying "USAir Arena" (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8981598,-76.8359702,3a,75y,181.39h,89.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQl6YKzaiyAhobbv-3hq9_Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en)

Welp, that cat's out of the bag.  I've actually known about that last sign you linked to for a long time now.  (I found it by accident while cruising along Largo Center Dr about ten years ago.)  I've never linked to it out of a fear that Maryland would send out a crew to finish the job, and remove the final reference to a place that once was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 22, 2021, 01:59:40 PM
In Mustang, OK, I saw a city-installed wayfinder sign that used Transport on Sara Road at the SH-152 intersection. Unfortunately it seems to have been installed after GSV went through last.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: index on April 23, 2021, 03:59:35 AM
The weight limit on this bridge was changed to 0 tons after it was closed. I don't know why they'd even bother keeping the sign up if they're gonna close the bridge, let alone change it to 0 tons. Why make changes to a sign that's no longer needed?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4112599,-93.0699495,3a,15y,125.53h,89.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEjHGWEQ85UKSnboHLJgyg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4107864,-93.0691329,3a,15y,319.05h,87.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqWr4RbbEU4EZRWE9fBCW8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 23, 2021, 05:46:23 PM
This sign advertising brine (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7067554,-103.5980266,3a,15y,53.2h,88.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTVSqgnMsQY7JqJz-shlhaQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in Loving County, Texas, appears to be made out of button copy (though it's hard to tell, check out the other side (https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7068746,-103.5976437,3a,15y,261.43h,89.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgnzRnVxizEX4tS4SquukOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on April 23, 2021, 05:53:16 PM
I have a lot of questions on this one. What here is  EXEMPT? (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5376955,-95.0186054,3a,15y,66.24h,89.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44Cd-MX6k6ExlZV5JGX4TA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Is it for the bike path? What is being exempt? How has it managed to stay up during the recent construction here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 23, 2021, 06:01:46 PM
Looks like there used to be a railroad crossing there, which would mean trucks, school buses, and other traffic normally required to stop at railroad lines would be exempt from doing so. Unsure of why they removed the round RXR sign but not the EXEMPT plaque, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 23, 2021, 06:14:19 PM
Exempt from right turn only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on April 23, 2021, 06:18:10 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1371/4725871564_bd2b9655cc_z_d.jpg)

Found this about 10 years ago along an abandoned section of US 71 south of Rich Hill, MO.  It has since disappeared.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 24, 2021, 12:01:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 23, 2021, 06:01:46 PM
Looks like there used to be a railroad crossing there, which would mean trucks, school buses, and other traffic normally required to stop at railroad lines would be exempt from doing so. Unsure of why they removed the round RXR sign but not the EXEMPT plaque, though.

Here's a similar example in California.
https://goo.gl/maps/scCW6pwmNfP2eYtz9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on April 24, 2021, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 23, 2021, 06:01:46 PM
Looks like there used to be a railroad crossing there, which would mean trucks, school buses, and other traffic normally required to stop at railroad lines would be exempt from doing so. Unsure of why they removed the round RXR sign but not the EXEMPT plaque, though.

Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 24, 2021, 12:01:48 PM
Here's a similar example in California.
https://goo.gl/maps/scCW6pwmNfP2eYtz9

It not similar, but it is "unique, odd and interesting".  If I am interpreting this correctly, the blades for Huff Street and H Street are a private installation and the "Exempt" sign indicates that the signpost is exempt from from San Bernardino city regulations.  If so, I have no idea why it would be necessary to indicate so.  It is also interesting that the "Exempt" sign appears to have been removed from an older signpost and placed on this one (presumably a newer version, perhaps a city-supplied one).

Indeed, the word "Exempt" has a specific meaning related to railroads in the MUCTD.  The fellow that hired me at the Chessie was chair of the MUTCD Railroad Working Group for a number of years, and I got a few related tasks when changing our standards.  Just not road signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: achilles765 on April 25, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Well they just re did some exit signs here in Houston on IH 45. And now the exit for AIRLINE DRIVE. Says ARLINE DRIVE. so that's nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 25, 2021, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: achilles765 on April 25, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Well they just re did some exit signs here in Houston on IH 45. And now the exit for AIRLINE DRIVE. Says ARLINE DRIVE. so that's nice.

Nice. And I bet TxDOT is still abusing the hell out of Clearview too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 25, 2021, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 25, 2021, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: achilles765 on April 25, 2021, 10:56:08 AM
Well they just re did some exit signs here in Houston on IH 45. And now the exit for AIRLINE DRIVE. Says ARLINE DRIVE. so that's nice.

Nice. And I bet TxDOT is still abusing the hell out of Clearview too.

From the pictures I've seen on the Sign Errors Facebook group, yeah, they're in Clearview.

edit: apparently they're already replacing it. I dunno, but I would've put an "Ai" patch over the "A" myself instead of replacing the whole sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 26, 2021, 08:50:59 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51138318369/in/photostream
The missing letter looks like it was purposely greened out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on April 26, 2021, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: index on April 23, 2021, 03:59:35 AM
The weight limit on this bridge was changed to 0 tons after it was closed. I don't know why they'd even bother keeping the sign up if they're gonna close the bridge, let alone change it to 0 tons. Why make changes to a sign that's no longer needed?

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4112599,-93.0699495,3a,15y,125.53h,89.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srEjHGWEQ85UKSnboHLJgyg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4107864,-93.0691329,3a,15y,319.05h,87.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqWr4RbbEU4EZRWE9fBCW8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


In their defense, that bridge looks like it would collapse if a bird landed on it, so I can totally get 0 tons.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 26, 2021, 07:59:17 PM
From sign-happy Farmington, NM....

CHILD!!!!!!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/bGAcpbh6LTuJ5f4VA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 26, 2021, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on April 24, 2021, 09:49:50 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 24, 2021, 12:01:48 PM
Here's a similar example in California.
https://goo.gl/maps/scCW6pwmNfP2eYtz9

It not similar, but it is "unique, odd and interesting".  If I am interpreting this correctly, the blades for Huff Street and H Street are a private installation and the "Exempt" sign indicates that the signpost is exempt from from San Bernardino city regulations.  If so, I have no idea why it would be necessary to indicate so.  It is also interesting that the "Exempt" sign appears to have been removed from an older signpost and placed on this one (presumably a newer version, perhaps a city-supplied one).

Indeed, the word "Exempt" has a specific meaning related to railroads in the MUCTD.  The fellow that hired me at the Chessie was chair of the MUTCD Railroad Working Group for a number of years, and I got a few related tasks when changing our standards.  Just not road signs.

It's similar in that it is also related to a railroad crossing. There is an old track bed a few hundred feet east, the tracks of which were torn out a number of years ago; the EXEMPT almost certainly refers to that. The blades are standard city street signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 27, 2021, 12:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/X5JfNDZE6iukf3sJ9

The 8Aguide has the street name last but 8B puts it first.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 27, 2021, 01:37:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 27, 2021, 12:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/X5JfNDZE6iukf3sJ9

The 8Aguide has the street name last but 8B puts it first.

Stuff like this might be why the MUTCD doesn't want street and place names together on a BGS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 27, 2021, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 27, 2021, 01:37:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 27, 2021, 12:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/X5JfNDZE6iukf3sJ9

The 8Aguide has the street name last but 8B puts it first.

I agree.  It should be just Prospect Avenue.  Signing West Orange does not make sense when NB CR 577 goes there as well.  Plus the business district of West Orange is via another interchange on I-280 2 miles east.  Why say that only SB CR 577 serves West Orange when you have NB CR 577 that does too.  In fact Pleasant Valley Way and Laurel Avenue also serve West Orange as well which are previous exits from I-280 EB.   They serve residential areas just as primarily CR 577 does as Downtown is on Northfield Avenue and Main Street from Exit 9 (Exit 10 W Bound).

Stuff like this might be why the MUTCD doesn't want street and place names together on a BGS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2021, 12:41:07 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 26, 2021, 07:59:17 PM
From sign-happy Farmington, NM....

CHILD!!!!!!

https://maps.app.goo.gl/bGAcpbh6LTuJ5f4VA

Maybe the other one moved away.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 28, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
This one leans too much.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51142429956_d067addb2a_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 28, 2021, 11:39:37 AM
It makes me want to take a ground-rod driver to the post on the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 28, 2021, 11:43:00 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 28, 2021, 11:39:37 AM
It makes me want to take a ground-rod driver to the post on the left.

I think that is the situation. The post is coming up out of the ground on the left.

However this one just ahead of it is also problematic.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51142640568_7270320bd3_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 28, 2021, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 28, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
This one leans too much.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51142429956_d067addb2a_k.jpg)

The sign with the yellow legend is interesting. I feel like there should be a practical use for doing that because it seems useful. Maybe instead of writing TOLL in a black-on-yellow box, we just write it in yellow-on-green instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 28, 2021, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 28, 2021, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 28, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
This one leans too much.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51142429956_d067addb2a_k.jpg)

The sign with the yellow legend is interesting. I feel like there should be a practical use for doing that because it seems useful. Maybe instead of writing TOLL in a black-on-yellow box, we just write it in yellow-on-green instead.

Is yellow-on-green specified in the MUTCD for county route shields on guide signs?  There are some instances of that use in Michigan, for example (I've posted these photos on other threads):

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfiQo0IR.jpg&hash=1eb9f239632deaf823c3a9956a8200c2301a4846)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIjihWlW.jpg&hash=2ce5838377ef81c1815411653955d53cb6a533af)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 28, 2021, 09:17:30 PM
https://flic.kr/p/2kVrg7r
This one says 1 mile to Blue Heron but the sequential mileage sign across the way says otherwise.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnc%2520https%3A%2F%2Fflic.kr%2Fp%2F2kVrg7r&hash=02ba479f46e469395d7887581db5f35d6ff15eef)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51144174057_f68096a6b9_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on April 28, 2021, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 28, 2021, 09:17:30 PM
https://flic.kr/p/2kVrg7r
This one says 1 mile to Blue Heron but the sequential mileage sign across the way says otherwise.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnc%2520https%3A%2F%2Fflic.kr%2Fp%2F2kVrg7r&hash=02ba479f46e469395d7887581db5f35d6ff15eef)

Maybe one is referring to the actual exit and the other is referring to the boulevard itself?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on April 28, 2021, 09:53:52 PM
Speed checked by radar and other electrical devices. (https://goo.gl/maps/QYHxBjeV7FPqktAf8)  Not "electric" or "electronic," but "electrical."  If the officers are caught timing the car between landmarks with a windup stopwatch, you have a case for the judge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 29, 2021, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 28, 2021, 09:53:52 PM
Speed checked by radar and other electrical devices. (https://goo.gl/maps/QYHxBjeV7FPqktAf8)  Not "electric" or "electronic," but "electrical."  If the officers are caught timing the car between landmarks with a windup stopwatch, you have a case for the judge.

Our George Foreman Grill indicated you were 15 MPH over the legal limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on April 29, 2021, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on April 28, 2021, 09:53:52 PM
Speed checked by radar and other electrical devices. (https://goo.gl/maps/QYHxBjeV7FPqktAf8)  Not "electric" or "electronic," but "electrical."  If the officers are caught timing the car between landmarks with a windup stopwatch, you have a case for the judge.

OK, is that before or after the obligatory "Radar Detectors Illegal" sign?

I'm always amused by city-installed signs that say "Speed Controlled by Radar."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 29, 2021, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 29, 2021, 05:33:07 PM
I'm always amused by city-installed signs that say "Speed Controlled by Radar."

Mexico has signs that say "radar in operation".  You know, like they limit it to only certain areas or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 30, 2021, 05:43:29 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 29, 2021, 05:33:07 PM
I'm always amused by city-installed signs that say "Speed Controlled by Radar."

Which I've found odd, because it doesn't "control" one's vehicle speed. Cruise Control is the closest thing to controlling speed, and that's mostly user-operated.

The technology obviously isn't there yet, mostly because there's no standard and legacy machinery will be around for a good long while.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on April 30, 2021, 10:57:36 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 30, 2021, 05:43:29 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on April 29, 2021, 05:33:07 PM
I'm always amused by city-installed signs that say "Speed Controlled by Radar."

Which I've found odd, because it doesn't "control" one's vehicle speed. Cruise Control is the closest thing to controlling speed, and that's mostly user-operated.

That's standard cruise control. Millions of cars today have adaptive cruise control, the one that automatically accelerates or brakes to keep a set distance from the car in front of you. And ACC does in fact use radar (with the exception of Subaru's, which only uses two cameras), so you could actually say that for a lot of vehicles, their speed IS controlled by radar.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:00:52 AM
Heck, following that line of reasoning, traffic control devices don't control traffic either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: paulthemapguy on April 30, 2021, 11:03:45 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:00:52 AM
Heck, following that line of reasoning, traffic control devices don't control traffic either.

They don't fully, but they're still devices intended to control traffic.  That means the moniker "traffic control device" is accurate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:07:46 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 30, 2021, 11:03:45 AM

Quote from: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:00:52 AM
Heck, following that line of reasoning, traffic control devices don't control traffic either.

They don't fully, but they're still devices intended to control traffic.  That means the moniker "traffic control device" is accurate.

Likewise, the use of radar is intended to keep the speed of traffic under control.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on April 30, 2021, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:07:46 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 30, 2021, 11:03:45 AM

Quote from: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:00:52 AM
Heck, following that line of reasoning, traffic control devices don't control traffic either.

They don't fully, but they're still devices intended to control traffic.  That means the moniker "traffic control device" is accurate.

Likewise, the use of radar is intended to keep the speed of traffic under control.

I think the difference here is directly controlling traffic vs. indirectly controlling traffic. A traffic control device doesn't directly affect what traffic does, but its presence alone conveys the threat of legal consequences and/or a crash, which indirectly controls traffic through driver compliance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:58:31 AM
The presence of cops running radar conveys the threat of legal consequences, which indirectly controls traffic through driver compliance
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on April 30, 2021, 12:04:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:58:31 AM
The presence of cops running radar conveys the threat of legal consequences, which indirectly controls traffic through driver compliance

Correct! You get an A+.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 12:07:38 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on April 30, 2021, 12:04:21 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 30, 2021, 11:58:31 AM
The presence of cops running radar conveys the threat of legal consequences, which indirectly controls traffic through driver compliance

Correct! You get an A+.

But I wanted a blue star.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 01, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 28, 2021, 12:55:41 PM
Is yellow-on-green specified in the MUTCD for county route shields on guide signs?

No, it is not. Likely because the color contrast isn't as good.

The only place where yellow text is a standard are the yellow-on-blue direction/junction/auxiliary/etc. placards for post-mounted county route shield assemblies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 01, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 01, 2021, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 28, 2021, 12:55:41 PM
Is yellow-on-green specified in the MUTCD for county route shields on guide signs?

No, it is not. Likely because the color contrast isn't as good.

It can't be too awful, considering Britain uses that color scheme for A road markers. I imagine it's just a case of the MUTCD not seeing any semantic value in specifying yellow text in this situation, so it just doesn't.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 01, 2021, 06:33:50 PM
QuoteTo be honest, probably the most fear-inducing experience you can have as a driver is being tailgated by a cop.

Oh, with my out of state California plates, I guarantee he was trying to get me to speed up. I didn't before he got another target, though, so that worked out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 01, 2021, 08:10:28 PM
I guess this is to appease drivers wondering why three of four lanes are closed with apparently no work happening.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FW22Ny6V.jpg&hash=d7355db83f7fc7dc0c8528b1cb0f9a0fa7d636ea) (https://imgur.com/W22Ny6V)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on May 01, 2021, 11:28:46 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5350193,-77.582843,3a,15y,246.62h,91.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s14qrAIPKRKhZd01C6_RKcg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Gaston.. GAS
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 01, 2021, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on May 01, 2021, 11:28:46 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5350193,-77.582843,3a,15y,246.62h,91.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s14qrAIPKRKhZd01C6_RKcg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Gaston.. GAS

Those simple service signs were posted elsewhere in NC (and in a few other states) but it's been a while since they were used extensively.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on May 02, 2021, 01:29:58 AM
Quote from: plain on May 01, 2021, 11:47:50 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on May 01, 2021, 11:28:46 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5350193,-77.582843,3a,15y,246.62h,91.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s14qrAIPKRKhZd01C6_RKcg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Gaston.. GAS

Those simple service signs were posted elsewhere in NC (and in a few other states) but it's been a while since they were used extensively.
They are now separated.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 02, 2021, 12:31:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 01, 2021, 06:00:40 PMIt can't be too awful, considering Britain uses that color scheme for A road markers. I imagine it's just a case of the MUTCD not seeing any semantic value in specifying yellow text in this situation, so it just doesn't.

It's worth noting that the green background used in Britain (specified in BS 381C and described as "middle Brunswick green" in official documents, or informally as "Worboys green") is significantly darker than the federal green used in the US.

Quote from: US 89 on May 01, 2021, 12:17:35 PMTo be honest, probably the most fear-inducing experience you can have as a driver is being tailgated by a cop.

Many rural jurisdictions seem to single out-of-state drivers for special attention even if they don't ticket them.  One of the attendees at the Denver meet in 2015 came from one of the northern frontier-tier states and reported being pulled over on US 34 near Wray, which is the seat of Yuma County in far eastern Colorado.  Sure enough, I was touring the Arikaree Breaks that autumn along a counterclockwise loop that started in Cheyenne County just over the Kansas line, and as soon as I got within three miles of Wray on US 34, a Yuma County sheriff's cruiser headed in the opposite direction U-turned behind me and followed me all the way into town.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 03, 2021, 10:11:19 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51153604972
This one having two separate assemblies instead of one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 04, 2021, 01:15:26 PM
Odd to post a I-80 west shield here. https://goo.gl/maps/qdtHpHWHa6M8sZA9A
Being the road ahead connects only with EB I-80.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on May 04, 2021, 09:14:54 PM
This one is funny looking.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1309791,-76.4956275,3a,16.3y,66.03h,85.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ZlsqSvvrleJpoI5tNYC2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 04, 2021, 11:27:13 PM
That's what happens when you smoke.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 04, 2021, 11:41:12 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 04, 2021, 01:15:26 PM
Odd to post a I-80 west shield here. https://goo.gl/maps/qdtHpHWHa6M8sZA9A
Being the road ahead connects only with EB I-80.

You can get there by taking US 46 west, but then they shouldn't bother with a direction banner at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2021, 09:05:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/vrgz7se3rYPajEPg6
The fact there is a milepost for the Garden State Parkway meant to be seen from the frontage road on a wall.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 05, 2021, 10:18:11 AM
Entrance ramp from northbound US-24 to eastbound I-696.  The "Rouge River" sign can be seen only from the ramp, not from the mainline.  Should have been posted on the far side of the bridge.
https://goo.gl/maps/srBvAb9rHniY2cid9

Weird combination of very different font sizes, westbound I-696 in Oak Park.  I would expect to see this in Maryland, not Michigan.
https://goo.gl/maps/BzxPxRvKsdC5cNYv7

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 05, 2021, 07:53:10 PM
Not necessarily a sign per se, but definitely an oddity:

This was a photo taken on then-US-21/The Willow Freeway at the Cleveland/Newburgh Hts., OH border likely in the 1940s or early 50s.  Today this would be I-77 at the Fleet Avenue overpass.

What makes this freeway shot interesting is that there is a phone booth that was installed in the middle of a freeway.  Why?  Hell if I know...

https://m.facebook.com/groups/533195343518644/permalink/1815713381933494/

If you look through the earliest comments, there is a wider shot of the overpass. 

The bridge has since been rebuilt, same location now:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zNVvKfRzUCKQnWnU9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 05, 2021, 10:08:35 PM
Speed enforcement discussion split to a new thread. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29237.msg2605733)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 12:19:34 AM
This assembly (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6493303,-75.4640695,3a,15y,197.86h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf9bYnSxifruj6kes9kD2pw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) translates to "new signage in 2km"... okay, what is the new signage?

Well, it seems like it is work zone signage. (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6357362,-75.4790029,3a,25.6y,158.56h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTn-78Wq20sI2WLDpGz48-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) Clearly not the right sign for this (plus, the "DANS 2km" isn't in any standards book).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 06, 2021, 10:04:34 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 12:19:34 AM
This assembly (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6493303,-75.4640695,3a,15y,197.86h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf9bYnSxifruj6kes9kD2pw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) translates to "new signage in 2km"... okay, what is the new signage?

Well, it seems like it is work zone signage. (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6357362,-75.4790029,3a,25.6y,158.56h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTn-78Wq20sI2WLDpGz48-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) Clearly not the right sign for this (plus, the "DANS 2km" isn't in any standards book).

Is 'lentement' an adverb?  I think most other languages would just put their equivalent of 'lent' on the sign.

In English, the equivalent sign would say 'slowly'.  In Spanish, 'despaciamente'.  And both would just sound really weird to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2021, 10:04:34 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 12:19:34 AM
This assembly (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6493303,-75.4640695,3a,15y,197.86h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf9bYnSxifruj6kes9kD2pw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) translates to "new signage in 2km"... okay, what is the new signage?

Well, it seems like it is work zone signage. (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6357362,-75.4790029,3a,25.6y,158.56h,85.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTn-78Wq20sI2WLDpGz48-g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) Clearly not the right sign for this (plus, the "DANS 2km" isn't in any standards book).

Is 'lentement' an adverb?  I think most other languages would just put their equivalent of 'lent' on the sign.

In English, the equivalent sign would say 'slowly'.  In Spanish, 'despaciamente'.  And both would just sound really weird to me.

"Lentement" is the standard... for STOP/SLOW paddles. It shouldn't be used for anything but those paddles.

In a way, it tells you "allez lentement" (go slow).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 06, 2021, 06:35:25 PM
It's also worth noting the "Lentement" sign in this StreetView extract doesn't actually use the FHWA series.

Yellow-background "Lentement" used to be one of those signs English-speaking tourists were warned about in Québec, so it came as a surprise to me to learn it hasn't been authorized since at least 1998.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 09:43:51 PM
I don't get the purpose of this town line (https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.6232524,-74.3601857,3a,15y,13.59h,91.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGytwHpt3AlbOZ-nHimEllQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign on Autoroute 50. If it's meant as a sort of reference marker, then why does it look so much of a road sign? It should look more like this (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6458006,-71.436562,3a,15y,81.29h,88.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW_HlACQFpShgqDuFTwUHOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 06, 2021, 09:53:55 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 09:43:51 PM
I don't get the purpose of this town line (https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.6232524,-74.3601857,3a,15y,13.59h,91.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGytwHpt3AlbOZ-nHimEllQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign on Autoroute 50. If it's meant as a sort of reference marker, then why does it look so much of a road sign? It should look more like this (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6458006,-71.436562,3a,15y,81.29h,88.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW_HlACQFpShgqDuFTwUHOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

It appears to mark the municipal boundary between the two.  There's another sign on the other side of the highway, and that is precisely where Google Maps has the Lachute municipal boundary crossing A-50.  Yet it's more in the style of a divide sign (https://goo.gl/maps/JM7orcD5BP1VeAV58).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 06, 2021, 09:53:55 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 09:43:51 PM
I don't get the purpose of this town line (https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.6232524,-74.3601857,3a,15y,13.59h,91.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGytwHpt3AlbOZ-nHimEllQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign on Autoroute 50. If it's meant as a sort of reference marker, then why does it look so much of a road sign? It should look more like this (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.6458006,-71.436562,3a,15y,81.29h,88.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW_HlACQFpShgqDuFTwUHOw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

It appears to mark the municipal boundary between the two.  There's another sign on the other side of the highway, and that is precisely where Google Maps has the Lachute municipal boundary crossing A-50.  Yet it's more in the style of a divide sign (https://goo.gl/maps/JM7orcD5BP1VeAV58).

Yeah, I thought the same as well. But it would usually be in the style of the Lévis sign I posted, hence the confusion as to why that sign is the way it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 06, 2021, 10:16:37 PM
Looks like MTQ decided to borrow Vermont's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0271017,-73.1851601,3a,50.5y,131.12h,79.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDx0zMYP5_HSWubEbEIqw9w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) way of signing it, though I'm pretty sure in VT that's only with surface roads; interstates use this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0202881,-72.4728447,3a,18.9y,20.36h,85.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1senBHzmHRAflBEZHeGdDrig!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DenBHzmHRAflBEZHeGdDrig%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D143.3429%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 06, 2021, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 06, 2021, 10:16:37 PM
Looks like MTQ decided to borrow Vermont's (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0271017,-73.1851601,3a,50.5y,131.12h,79.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDx0zMYP5_HSWubEbEIqw9w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) way of signing it, though I'm pretty sure in VT that's only with surface roads; interstates use this (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0202881,-72.4728447,3a,18.9y,20.36h,85.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1senBHzmHRAflBEZHeGdDrig!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DenBHzmHRAflBEZHeGdDrig%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D143.3429%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656).

Yup, if anything, it should be on a surface road. How is a driver meant to see this going 100 km/h on a freeway?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 08, 2021, 12:53:34 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51166587110/in/photostream
Interesting that the overhead signs US 92 correctly, but the ground shield does not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 08, 2021, 01:39:46 PM
^^ I was more compelled by "LANE ONLY" rather than "EXIT ONLY" verbiage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 08, 2021, 09:08:09 PM
Here's a sign for a private alley labeled as Pimpin' Avenue (https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.40639,-79.8874006,3a,15y,223.22h,85.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saOaCeTb5mWK0CxDxgvd6xQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).

Also worth noting is the high quality Street View capture from 2008.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 10, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
It seems as though the EXIT ONLY tab (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0890354,-96.0340965,3a,15y,296.66h,105.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spPbwbGXL-_pTrxvXUnPTZg!2e0!5s20200301T000000!7i16384!8i8192) on this sign has had its lettering fade to black to white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 11, 2021, 02:05:51 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 10, 2021, 10:46:19 PM
It seems as though the EXIT ONLY tab (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0890354,-96.0340965,3a,15y,296.66h,105.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1spPbwbGXL-_pTrxvXUnPTZg!2e0!5s20200301T000000!7i16384!8i8192) on this sign has had its lettering fade to black to white.

Ah yes, the days before ODOT signage went to total dogshit...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 14, 2021, 02:18:14 AM
This is the best they could come up with?

SEA Airport Expy @ WA-518, SeaTac, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/PV1bkaRdp7Hbdcsc7)

"Burien" is crammed between the down arrows. Meanwhile the shields are 19 miles apart with a gaping chasm of nothingness between them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 14, 2021, 11:53:16 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 14, 2021, 02:18:14 AM
This is the best they could come up with?

SEA Airport Expy @ WA-518, SeaTac, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/PV1bkaRdp7Hbdcsc7)

"Burien" is crammed between the down arrows. Meanwhile the shields are 19 miles apart with a gaping chasm of nothingness between them.

Indeed a horrible design. The WA shields are too far down, which probably forced Burien down between the arrows. This actually might be a contender for Worst Of.

EDIT: Speaking of which, I just remembered something I meant to post to that thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 17, 2021, 09:49:03 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51119098699_3da2b99ed5_4k.jpg

This one with the fraction in larger numerals than the whole number.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51119098699_3da2b99ed5_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 17, 2021, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 17, 2021, 09:49:03 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51119098699_3da2b99ed5_4k.jpg

This one with the fraction in larger numerals than the whole number.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51119098699_3da2b99ed5_4k.jpg)
Anybody else think they should bring in route F to make it a triplex, and then rearrange the W and T?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: webny99 on May 17, 2021, 02:55:46 PM
What The Foristell?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on May 17, 2021, 09:39:32 PM
Can't decide if this one in Woodsville, NH, is good or bad, but it's certainly unique.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ehPYIE.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 17, 2021, 11:44:26 PM
Clearly letting you know you'll be going out of state to catch I-91.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 18, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: csw on May 17, 2021, 09:39:32 PM
Can't decide if this one in Woodsville, NH, is good or bad, but it's certainly unique.
(https://i.imgur.com/3ehPYIE.jpg)

I have never seen that before.  Usually when a state references a route that takes them to an interstate where the intersection occurs in another state, they just have the standard state named shield of the DOT installing it.  They don't get that technical.   I love that they did get that technical there.  The contrary is Interstate 12 (https://goo.gl/maps/9tbFrDtGMZGHT4kg9) being referenced in Mississippi.  It's funny to see a Mississippi state named shield for an intrastate interstate that is in Louisiana. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on May 20, 2021, 11:24:10 PM
A detour for an incident bypass route for I-72 in Springfield, IL? (https://goo.gl/maps/bEgds3HifyNQjZGk9)  Also odd to have an incident bypass route for Business 55.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on May 21, 2021, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 20, 2021, 11:24:10 PM
A detour for an incident bypass route for I-72 in Springfield, IL? (https://goo.gl/maps/bEgds3HifyNQjZGk9)  Also odd to have an incident bypass route for Business 55.

What type of incident?  Was there something specific to mandate a detour, or are these signs up permanently?

I can imagine that if there is an accident on I-72, radio reports can tell you I-72 closed between these exits, follow the signed incident detour route.

Pennsylvania has a similar system, but they use a color coded system.

https://www.chesco.org/DocumentCenter/View/2409/PennDot-Detour-Signs?bidId=

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 21, 2021, 11:08:01 AM
Quote from: mrsman on May 21, 2021, 09:51:40 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on May 20, 2021, 11:24:10 PM
A detour for an incident bypass route for I-72 in Springfield, IL? (https://goo.gl/maps/bEgds3HifyNQjZGk9)  Also odd to have an incident bypass route for Business 55.

What type of incident?  Was there something specific to mandate a detour, or are these signs up permanently?

I can imagine that if there is an accident on I-72, radio reports can tell you I-72 closed between these exits, follow the signed incident detour route.


Michigan has permanent freeway detour routes posted in some parts of the state.  They are signed as "emergency," not "incident bypass."  For example:

https://goo.gl/maps/iy64f9Q6EkLywQEx5

https://goo.gl/maps/8zGk139zvmWk7Gt8A

https://goo.gl/maps/X8SKnF35u7uinm9fA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 23, 2021, 10:05:34 AM
Not really a road sign, but since it looks like one from 70-90 years ago, I have to bring it up.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/FL_50_Bridge_over_former_SAL_Railroad_Line-Park_Boundary.jpg

How long have Florida's state parks had these kinds of signs at the borders of their parks?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 23, 2021, 05:58:06 PM
Hmm, if only there was a sign for this...

(https://i.imgur.com/0IsVPVH.png)

Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.399232,-71.0251522,3a,15y,354.09h,83.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM7w9CCgTzPbPc23rw7eMcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 24, 2021, 11:57:42 PM
It seems as though the shields on the abandoned section of PA-291 near the Philadelphia International Airport are still there, over fourteen years after it was closed to the public.

(https://i.imgur.com/U46L4ta.png)

Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8754337,-75.2551743,3a,25.9y,39.82h,89.15t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1snBKALh3-mZ_ZERQZT-BHPA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DnBKALh3-mZ_ZERQZT-BHPA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D348.25754%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on May 25, 2021, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 23, 2021, 05:58:06 PM
Hmm, if only there was a sign for this...

(https://i.imgur.com/0IsVPVH.png)

Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.399232,-71.0251522,3a,15y,354.09h,83.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM7w9CCgTzPbPc23rw7eMcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Honestly, it is probably more cost effective than the monstrosity CO sometimes uses]=https://goo.gl/maps/WaEVRXbHEWU29Bwm9]the monstrosity CO sometimes uses (http://=https://goo.gl/maps/WaEVRXbHEWU29Bwm9) (it can get even worse, but GSV hasn't updated), but it gets the same point across. There is probably so little traffic that uses that road, it doesn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on May 25, 2021, 03:55:43 PM
Your link is broken.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 25, 2021, 06:52:04 PM
Corrected post:

Quote from: MCRoads on May 25, 2021, 09:26:16 AM
Honestly, it is probably more cost effective than the monstrosity CO sometimes uses (https://goo.gl/maps/ogZvnV9Bhoy5Ku5J8) (it can get even worse, but GSV hasn't updated), but it gets the same point across. There is probably so little traffic that uses that road, it doesn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 25, 2021, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on May 25, 2021, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on May 23, 2021, 05:58:06 PM
Hmm, if only there was a sign for this...

(https://i.imgur.com/0IsVPVH.png)

Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.399232,-71.0251522,3a,15y,354.09h,83.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM7w9CCgTzPbPc23rw7eMcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)

Honestly, it is probably more cost effective than the monstrosity CO sometimes uses (https://goo.gl/maps/WaEVRXbHEWU29Bwm9) (it can get even worse, but GSV hasn't updated), but it gets the same point across. There is probably so little traffic that uses that road, it doesn't matter anyway.

Yeah, but the most cost effective way would be the actual standard in Québec:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Qu%C3%A9bec_D-130-2.svg/240px-Qu%C3%A9bec_D-130-2.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 27, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
You heard it here first, folks: No turn on red unless there's a green arrow.

St Louis Park, MN (https://goo.gl/maps/V9JJshn6S2KGxwb16)

I'm guessing it was installed to avoid confusion with a red orb being displayed simultaneous with a green arrow (an extremely common situation). But then I've never seen such an obvious exception to "NTOR" signed before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51208196464_9015b6ff26_o.png)
No Turn On Red Except On Green Arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2m26oK3) by Jake Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 28, 2021, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 27, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
You heard it here first, folks: No turn on red unless there's a green arrow.

St Louis Park, MN (https://goo.gl/maps/V9JJshn6S2KGxwb16)

I'm guessing it was installed to avoid confusion with a red orb being displayed simultaneous with a green arrow (an extremely common situation). But then I've seen such an obvious exception to "NTOR" signed before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51208196464_9015b6ff26_o.png)
No Turn On Red Except On Green Arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2m26oK3) by Jake Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

In this case those signals should be regular 3-section right turn signals instead of towers.

EDIT: then the signs wouldn't be needed at all, at least the bottom one
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 28, 2021, 11:20:55 PM
This JCT I-520 sign with the Bobby Jones name above it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51209714741_60c457cf68_k.jpg)

It should read Bobby Jones Expressway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 30, 2021, 02:51:46 AM
"IMPASSE" instead of the standard "CUL-DE-SAC" in Chicoutimi:

(https://i.imgur.com/Fq5g3yh.png)

Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.4247837,-71.0814644,3a,15y,278.54h,90.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPh5kZh-Zcv1Pz6_1LjigUw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 30, 2021, 05:08:31 AM
"Well, we're at an impasse. I guess there's nothing we can do but pay attention to the infants."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 31, 2021, 11:15:08 AM
This one is odd for two reasons.
1) The inconsistency of the road descriptors.  One spelled out and the other abbreviated.
2) The exit numbers as you have a whole number and a whole number suffix.  Forget the A & B in the middle, but still Exit 1 should become Exit 1A and Wheeler Road should be Exit 1B.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51215641418_14af1d493c_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 31, 2021, 11:52:04 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/PoSHL1soEYQDNQjG6
Never saw this one before for a 65 mph speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 31, 2021, 03:05:56 PM
It's because of the 70mph limit on the parent I-15 it's exiting from.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on May 31, 2021, 03:43:31 PM
Here's a button copy relic.  This is on Redondo, just south of Rosecrans, in north Manhattan Beach, CA.  That is a movie/TV studio in the right distance "Welcome To What's Next").
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51217046060_d0a6018f1c_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 01, 2021, 10:19:44 AM
Quote from: M3100 on May 31, 2021, 03:43:31 PM
Here's a button copy relic.  This is on Redondo, just south of Rosecrans, in north Manhattan Beach, CA.  That is a movie/TV studio in the right distance "Welcome To What's Next").
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51217046060_d0a6018f1c_c.jpg)

:love:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 01, 2021, 06:24:56 PM
Saw this earlier today at the Publix at the corner of Sheridan Street and SW 196th Avenue in Southwest Ranches, Florida. This crosswalk makes no sense.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/0843ae7f31bc0251d7a9457369e73b76.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on June 01, 2021, 06:46:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/D6aW17j.jpeg) (https://goo.gl/maps/QdeoPjSpZbY3TZzT9)
click image to show on Google Maps

This sign itself is not that unusual but in this case, it's for a ramp that does a 180º turn underneath the freeway rather than a cloverleaf loop ramp.

(https://i.imgur.com/6FKzukv.png)
location as shown on the GSV inset map
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on June 01, 2021, 09:24:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4apQaHk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ekV9xNw.jpg)

The western approach to the Vincent Thomas Bridge in San Pedro, CA has a similar setup for westbound traffic exiting onto Harbor Blvd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on June 01, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2021, 06:24:56 PM
Saw this earlier today at the Publix at the corner of Sheridan Street and SW 196th Avenue in Southwest Ranches, Florida. This crosswalk makes no sense.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/0843ae7f31bc0251d7a9457369e73b76.jpg)

no no, you see, it's so the firefighters can safely get to the hydrant from the engine truck parked in the fire lane...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on June 02, 2021, 12:10:51 AM
Not yet updated on Google Street View, Fort Madison, IA has horizontal windmill devices on top of signs that turn in the wind and flash orange and white.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51220417115_4c1ba075a0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m3b2vV)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 02, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 01, 2021, 06:24:56 PM
Saw this earlier today at the Publix at the corner of Sheridan Street and SW 196th Avenue in Southwest Ranches, Florida. This crosswalk makes no sense.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/0843ae7f31bc0251d7a9457369e73b76.jpg)

This type of crosswalk stupidity is so common in strip mall parking lots and it always just makes me roll my eyes. That and spamming stop signs to get people to "slow down".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 02, 2021, 11:47:33 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51219318589/in/photostream/
GA 24 is signed south overhead.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51219631505/in/photostream/
However on the ground it's signed West.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 02, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
This type of crosswalk stupidity is so common in strip mall parking lots and it always just makes me roll my eyes. That and spamming stop signs to get people to "slow down".

I am petty and ignore any strip mall traffic control device that doesn't comply with the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 03, 2021, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 02, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
This type of crosswalk stupidity is so common in strip mall parking lots and it always just makes me roll my eyes. That and spamming stop signs to get people to "slow down".

I am petty and ignore any strip mall traffic control device that doesn't comply with the MUTCD.

One-way signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 11:06:57 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 03, 2021, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 02, 2021, 10:14:12 AM
This type of crosswalk stupidity is so common in strip mall parking lots and it always just makes me roll my eyes. That and spamming stop signs to get people to "slow down".

I am petty and ignore any strip mall traffic control device that doesn't comply with the MUTCD.

One-way signs?

I have never seen a strip mall parking lot that uses them instead of just painting arrows on the ground.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 03, 2021, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
I am petty and ignore any strip mall traffic control device that doesn't comply with the MUTCD.

I ignore them even if they comply with MUTCD.  I'm in a glorified driveway, what do I care about signs and arrows?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 03, 2021, 11:54:13 AM


Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2021, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
I am petty and ignore any strip mall traffic control device that doesn't comply with the MUTCD.

I ignore them even if they comply with MUTCD.  I'm in a glorified driveway, what do I care about signs and arrows?

Well, hit a pedestrian or other car while ignoring a stop sign may cause you some trouble.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 03, 2021, 12:03:47 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 03, 2021, 11:54:13 AM

Quote from: kphoger on June 03, 2021, 11:51:45 AM

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 03, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
I am petty and ignore any strip mall traffic control device that doesn't comply with the MUTCD.

I ignore them even if they comply with MUTCD.  I'm in a glorified driveway, what do I care about signs and arrows?

Well, hit a pedestrian or other car while ignoring a stop sign may cause you some trouble.

That's why I also don't hit pedestrians.

Also, hitting a pedestrian while not ignoring a stop sign may also cause you some trouble.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: HTM Duke on June 03, 2021, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: plain on May 28, 2021, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 27, 2021, 07:17:49 PM
You heard it here first, folks: No turn on red unless there's a green arrow.

St Louis Park, MN (https://goo.gl/maps/V9JJshn6S2KGxwb16)

I'm guessing it was installed to avoid confusion with a red orb being displayed simultaneous with a green arrow (an extremely common situation). But then I've seen such an obvious exception to "NTOR" signed before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51208196464_9015b6ff26_o.png)
No Turn On Red Except On Green Arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2m26oK3) by Jake Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

In this case those signals should be regular 3-section right turn signals instead of towers.

EDIT: then the signs wouldn't be needed at all, at least the bottom one

Late reply, but I've found a very similar sign setup in Big Stone Gap, VA while browsing Streetview:
https://goo.gl/maps/9pvvK7K3Pz272L2SA
The only difference is the use of RIGHT TURN instead of EXCEPT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 02:41:26 AM
I was browsing H. B. Elkins' latest pictures on Flickr and found this weird sign:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51219892537_d13d875082_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m38kzt)IMG_7383 (https://flic.kr/p/2m38kzt) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

I'm curious as to what it means?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2021, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 02:41:26 AM
I was browsing H. B. Elkins' latest pictures on Flickr and found this weird sign:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51219892537_d13d875082_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m38kzt)IMG_7383 (https://flic.kr/p/2m38kzt) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

I'm curious as to what it means?

It's a nickname for a very curvy but also very scenic stretch of KY 160 and VA 160 between Cumberland, KY and Appalachia, VA. It's very popular with bikers. (https://backroadsofappalachia.org/) This sign must've been installed before the enthusiasts realized they were using the incorrect shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2021, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 02:41:26 AM
I was browsing H. B. Elkins' latest pictures on Flickr and found this weird sign:
(Dragon's Slayer shield)
I'm curious as to what it means?

It's a nickname for a very curvy but also very scenic stretch of KY 160 and VA 160 between Cumberland, KY and Appalachia, VA. It's very popular with bikers. (https://backroadsofappalachia.org/) This sign must've been installed before the enthusiasts realized they were using the incorrect shield.

It seems like quite a windy stretch of road indeed. Also, I guess they thought that since the route is multistate, it warranted a US shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2021, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2021, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 04, 2021, 02:41:26 AM
I was browsing H. B. Elkins' latest pictures on Flickr and found this weird sign:
(Dragon's Slayer shield)
I'm curious as to what it means?

It's a nickname for a very curvy but also very scenic stretch of KY 160 and VA 160 between Cumberland, KY and Appalachia, VA. It's very popular with bikers. (https://backroadsofappalachia.org/) This sign must've been installed before the enthusiasts realized they were using the incorrect shield.

It seems like quite a windy stretch of road indeed. Also, I guess they thought that since the route is multistate, it warranted a US shield?

I guess? Interestingly, the Facebook group and its website use proper KY shields now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 04, 2021, 07:56:00 PM
That sign was posted on northbound Business US 23 within the corporate limits of Appalachia, a couple of miles prior to the VA 68/To VA 160 intersection.

I did not see any similar signage in Kentucky, but I traveled KY 160 only to the ramp to northbound US 119.

It's interesting how the term "dragon" makes its way into so many roads popular with motorcyclists. The Tail of the Dragon on US 129 seems to the the origin of all of it. You have The Back of the Dragon on VA 16 between Tazewell and Marion, and Dragon Slayer for the Black Mountain crossing on 160.

I only saw three bikes the day I was on the route. Two were parked at the wide spot/pseudo overlook on the Virginia side of the state line, and one other rode by as I as out stretching my legs and getting some pictures. Until Kentucky gets its side of the mountain patched, I doubt it will get a lot of bike activity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on June 05, 2021, 04:16:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/77OIrZD.jpeg)

I have no idea how old this sign is, but I feel like this could have been installed before the metal fence was put up. This is located on S Landers Road in North Little Rock adjacent to US 67/167. (taken on March 9th, 2021)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: index on June 05, 2021, 06:26:32 PM
I saw this bizarrely worded sign today on Holloway Mtn Road in Foscoe, NC that I managed to catch on video.
(https://i.imgur.com/7zFVBPo.png)
"NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NOT FROM HERES" is a weird way to say "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR OUTSIDERS" or "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NON-LOCALS", NCDOT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 05, 2021, 10:48:24 PM
"NOT FROM HERES" is the perhaps the worst English I have ever read on a road sign. I expect that on a hand-written cardboard sign stapled to a telegraph pole, not a retroreflective warning sign installed by a otherwise-competent authority.

Seriously, I am sitting here in my desk chair completely flabbergasted. No...it's definitely the worst English I've ever read on a road sign; it's basically one step above unintelligible gibberish, and that doesn't count as English, IMO. I don't see how it can get worse than that. How in the hell did it even get off the drawing board?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on June 05, 2021, 10:53:00 PM
Here's a sign on eastbound California SR 18, on the way to Big Bear Lake in San Bernardino County. Not your everyday curve.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51228350524_2410e6cbd8_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on June 06, 2021, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: index on June 05, 2021, 06:26:32 PM
I saw this bizarrely worded sign today on Holloway Mtn Road in Foscoe, NC that I managed to catch on video.
(https://i.imgur.com/7zFVBPo.png)
"NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NOT FROM HERES" is a weird way to say "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR OUTSIDERS" or "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NON-LOCALS", NCDOT.

That must be new. I used to drive up Holloway Mtn frequently to get to the parkway, and I don't ever recall seeing it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 06, 2021, 10:37:29 AM
I always thought this one at the TN/NC line was a little weird.  I understand the intent, but I think many people at first glance would read it as "no permitted trucks permitted" (or "no allowed trucks allowed").

(https://i.imgur.com/O5gOyei.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on June 06, 2021, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on June 06, 2021, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: index on June 05, 2021, 06:26:32 PM
I saw this bizarrely worded sign today on Holloway Mtn Road in Foscoe, NC that I managed to catch on video.
(https://i.imgur.com/7zFVBPo.png)
"NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NOT FROM HERES" is a weird way to say "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR OUTSIDERS" or "NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NON-LOCALS", NCDOT.

That must be new. I used to drive up Holloway Mtn frequently to get to the parkway, and I don't ever recall seeing it
Looks more like a screen-grab from "The Dukes of Hazzard" or something similar.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 06, 2021, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 06, 2021, 10:37:29 AM
I always thought this one at the TN/NC line was a little weird.  I understand the intent, but I think many people at first glance would read it as "no permitted trucks permitted" (or "no allowed trucks allowed").

(https://i.imgur.com/O5gOyei.jpg)

and the MUTCD no trucks sign (R5-2) is a sideways view of the truck.
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/db/01/7d/db017d1bf824394cacdddeb89f3f7eab--truck-signs-symbols.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: index on June 06, 2021, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 05, 2021, 10:48:24 PM
"NOT FROM HERES" is the perhaps the worst English I have ever read on a road sign. I expect that on a hand-written cardboard sign stapled to a telegraph pole, not a retroreflective warning sign installed by a otherwise-competent authority.

Seriously, I am sitting here in my desk chair completely flabbergasted. No...it's definitely the worst English I've ever read on a road sign; it's basically one step above unintelligible gibberish, and that doesn't count as English, IMO. I don't see how it can get worse than that. How in the hell did it even get off the drawing board?
I was more confused than anything. I slowed down passing the sign and my brain was trying to parse what the hell it even meant. Only after I went back and looked at the footage did I realize what it was talking about.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 07, 2021, 05:06:48 PM
Does this sign mean "NO TEDDY BEARS"?

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.532154,-77.9715956,3a,15y,124.8h,83.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjKyTXNSa4vrhymiUZUpYFA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 07, 2021, 05:28:29 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 07, 2021, 05:06:48 PM
Does this sign mean "NO TEDDY BEARS"?

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.532154,-77.9715956,3a,15y,124.8h,83.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjKyTXNSa4vrhymiUZUpYFA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That belongs in vandalized signs: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=10303.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 07, 2021, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: jake on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.

They have, I've seen them.

Now, for the best looking stop signs out there, I prefer Michigan's custom font.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.361655,-83.275274&spn=0.002259,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.361655,-83.275274&panoid=5HcemoS5yqYNmaa7eD7r2A&cbp=12,325.34,,2,-0.32

The "S" has the same curvature on both the top and bottom parts, unlike FHWA which is smaller on top.
Don't see it now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 08, 2021, 01:02:17 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 07, 2021, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: jake on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.

They have, I've seen them.

Now, for the best looking stop signs out there, I prefer Michigan's custom font.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=42.361655,-83.275274&spn=0.002259,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.361655,-83.275274&panoid=5HcemoS5yqYNmaa7eD7r2A&cbp=12,325.34,,2,-0.32

The "S" has the same curvature on both the top and bottom parts, unlike FHWA which is smaller on top.

Don't see it now.

That comment was from 2014. If you go back in historic street view, you can see the older stop sign (https://goo.gl/maps/gC15vwsctiQ1QWrp8).

For the record, a lot of stop signs across BC are Clearview. That post was the first of many that I would go on to see. FHWA stop signs are still the most common though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 08, 2021, 01:57:38 PM
Is this unique?

NO CUT THRU TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/yfcqck4GDD7PxMvY7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 08, 2021, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 08, 2021, 01:57:38 PM
Is this unique?

NO CUT THRU TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/yfcqck4GDD7PxMvY7)
Seems just like an extra-wordy way of saying "No Thru Traffic". But adding that word probably makes it more clear who it's calling out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 08, 2021, 03:21:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 08, 2021, 01:57:38 PMIs this unique?

NO CUT THRU TRAFFIC (https://goo.gl/maps/yfcqck4GDD7PxMvY7)

Not at this location--there is another on Perry (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7076705,-97.3617337,3a,20.5y,346.6h,86.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNp_JVfeaCVGuMfQanYFtqA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), and I think it is the one that matters because the parking lot can otherwise be used to circumvent the barrier that blocks left turns and prevents traffic on Perry crossing 13th Street.

(We know this neighborhood well since we have family friends of long standing who used to live on the 1000 block of Perry.  When we came from the west to visit them, we would usually turn right on their street on the way out, but on the way back would work our way to North Riverside Boulevard so we could turn left on 13th at the light rather than risk a left turn at 13th and Perry, which was usually hairy not just because of heavy traffic and indifferent visibility on 13th, but also queues of cars on Perry on both sides of 13th waiting to turn left or go straight.  The current movement restrictions were imposed almost two years ago and were long overdue.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 08, 2021, 05:15:04 PM
Here's a twofer from Rhode Island...

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0029995,-71.5134438,3a,28.7y,73.25h,83.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNwSC_vjiotcEAD-p-y8LAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Cardinal directions INSIDE a shield, and interesting construction sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on June 08, 2021, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 08, 2021, 05:15:04 PM
Here's a twofer from Rhode Island...

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0029995,-71.5134438,3a,28.7y,73.25h,83.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNwSC_vjiotcEAD-p-y8LAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Cardinal directions INSIDE a shield, and interesting construction sign.
Welcome to Woonsocket, where the rules are made up and the points don't matter.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 09, 2021, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 08, 2021, 01:02:17 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 07, 2021, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: Brandon on June 18, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on June 15, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Quote from: jake on June 10, 2014, 03:31:13 AM
This is the first Clearview stop sign that I've ever seen:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1jYqmZg.png&hash=1e8675f175285c88c1683bc0a698c590524f13af)

It's located in Abbotsford (http://goo.gl/qjVX1r), British Columbia.

Oh gosh, please don't let that spread to the US.


Standard practice in Farmington, NM.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 09, 2021, 01:59:03 PM
^^^ the quote is broken

Quote from: thenetwork on June 09, 2021, 12:09:20 PM
Standard practice in Farmington, NM.

Took me a while but I did eventually find some examples: here (https://goo.gl/maps/9DbrueqDZUjxBTAL6), here (https://goo.gl/maps/R6gLGZEtTRFsDSUX9), here (https://goo.gl/maps/jqdaAUSG1tHRcknQ8), here (https://goo.gl/maps/NX6uhWPjqoivow139), and here (https://goo.gl/maps/GwKzh6YSdiWxJ1Fx7). I'm sure there are more.

I also found some more Clearview in negative contrast at this signal here (https://goo.gl/maps/DBAxzdwMLC6caFKY8) and nearby here (https://goo.gl/maps/ssirRyeo6NLTdUD66) and this warning sign here (https://goo.gl/maps/jNqXBRtBoGWYJJ849).

In fact, looking around some areas of the city, it seems like nearly every sign is in Clearview. Another couple of examples here (https://goo.gl/maps/GPdfJqaK7M9MjeFt6) ('left turn yield on green'), here (https://goo.gl/maps/L6YfXe5q1VcnDyjHA) ('stop here on red') and here (https://goo.gl/maps/m1rScWvho2MZccXL7) (a school speed limit sign).

But to top it off, they installed this (https://goo.gl/maps/eNKwVE7pkeNWwhNN8) at 30th and College Blvd:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51235647377_afec1a5987_o.png)
Euro Keep Right Arrow in USA (https://flic.kr/p/2m4w5WD) by Jake Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

Whoever is running the show in Farmington clearly doesn't give a damn about the MUTCD. Although the signal placement is excellent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 09, 2021, 03:41:09 PM
I'd argue that European Keep Right sign deserves to be in the Best of Road Signs collection. It's so stupid that that ended up there but it is kind of awesome.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on June 09, 2021, 04:43:03 PM
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that image.  :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on June 10, 2021, 12:46:44 AM
A kayak crossing sign at Willard Wyatt Park on Lake Stevens:

(https://i.imgur.com/lPOi2C5.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on June 11, 2021, 02:22:52 AM
Fair warning - this isn't a public road sign as it's on a school campus, but I figured someone might get a kick out of it.  Seen in Allen County, KY.
(https://i.imgur.com/hpmmkZmh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 11, 2021, 08:10:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/gfNi9z4.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on June 11, 2021, 03:18:29 PM
So normally the area around the UW football stadium in Seattle has these rather unique parking signs that use decals that are stuck on each year that list specific dates and times when parking is prohibited that coincide with that season's schedule for home Huskies football games: https://goo.gl/maps/EoLLePmAgkf7ctYn7

But a couple weeks ago while on a bike ride I noticed that this past year a special decal was applied that simply states "no sports or event parking restrictions until further notice", which a rather bittersweet anomaly.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51241639715_775438f0bc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m53NfP)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 11, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
As written, they accidentally prohibited parking there entirely (except possibly for those with Zone 1 permits, which is ambiguous since it's the color of the top statement but the size of the middle statement). It says no parking. It then says there are no sports or event parking restrictions – but the sign itself isn't a sports or event parking restriction, as it simply says "no parking" the same way a no parking sign on a major road would be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 11, 2021, 03:30:04 PM
The sign is ambiguous.  If I do not have a Zone 1 permit and I park there, can I be ticketed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 11, 2021, 03:55:09 PM
The sign definitely makes sense when there are times posted, but otherwise it is nonsensical and competes with the sign above it.

They need to either bag the signs until they reinstate restrictions, or take the sign down entirely.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 12, 2021, 08:50:21 AM
(these two photos are several miles apart and have nothing to do with each other)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51241193107_b8f58ae01f_k.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242671179_9358c3107e_k.jpg)

Seriously, is anyone going to go only 5 MPH?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 12, 2021, 11:08:03 AM
Saw a white on green Eisenhower Interstate Highway System sign at the SB Whitney Point rest area on I-81 in NY.

You can see a fuzzy picture of it on Google Street View:  https://goo.gl/maps/9pN42kB6xGUp9X2N6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 12, 2021, 01:25:26 PM
QuoteSeriously, is anyone going to go only 5 MPH?

The same people who go 10kph in "shared zones" in Australia.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 12, 2021, 02:00:41 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on June 12, 2021, 01:25:26 PM
QuoteSeriously, is anyone going to go only 5 MPH?

The same people who go 10kph in "shared zones" in Australia.

Also, tourists enjoying the view in my hometown. (It sure feels like 5 mph, anyways.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 12, 2021, 02:31:48 PM
When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 12, 2021, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 12, 2021, 02:31:48 PM
When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG

Both of those signs are before the MUTCD was first developed in 1935, but I suspect that the button copy "Stop on Red Signal" sign was a staple of the original versions.  It was long gone from the MUTCD when I first started in railway signalling back in 1985.  But I've worked on many crossings that still had them (until my grade crossing replacements were completed).

The signal head that is mounted with "Stop on Red Signal" sign is a kluge.  It certainly doesn't belong with the sign.  It is supposed to resemble a single-head railroad signal.  The shield proportions are correct, but I've never seen a rectangular version anywhere.  Also, the lens placement is not correct for railroad signals, as there is supposed to be a minimum distance between each lens (such that an improperly displayed signal with more than one lens illuminated can be detected by the train crew from a long distance).  Just guessing, but it looks to me as if someone grabbed a modern traffic signal and adapted a rectangular shield to make it kinda resemble a railroad signal.  (Worse, I'm pretty sure that CSX would have certainly donated an old authentic Atlantic Coast Line signal head and provided technical advice so that this display could have been more authentic).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 12, 2021, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 12, 2021, 02:31:48 PM
When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG

The sign on the left is still in the MUTCD. It just looks like this now.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/MUTCD_W10-1.svg/64px-MUTCD_W10-1.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 12, 2021, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 12, 2021, 11:08:03 AM
Saw a white on green Eisenhower Interstate Highway System sign at the SB Whitney Point rest area on I-81 in NY.

You can see a fuzzy picture of it on Google Street View:  https://goo.gl/maps/9pN42kB6xGUp9X2N6

I-590 used to have a blue one (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1324667,-77.5532936,3a,30.4y,198.64h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZKOM2NbvbmebjMqn75z8aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  Looks like it was taken down when the reassurance shields and gore signs were replaced in 2019.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 12, 2021, 09:27:34 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 12, 2021, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 12, 2021, 11:08:03 AM
Saw a white on green Eisenhower Interstate Highway System sign at the SB Whitney Point rest area on I-81 in NY.

You can see a fuzzy picture of it on Google Street View:  https://goo.gl/maps/9pN42kB6xGUp9X2N6

I-590 used to have a blue one (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1324667,-77.5532936,3a,30.4y,198.64h,89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZKOM2NbvbmebjMqn75z8aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  Looks like it was taken down when the reassurance shields and gore signs were replaced in 2019.
Right, but that's the one from the MUTCD.  They're all over the country.  Green is the wrong color.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 13, 2021, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 12, 2021, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 12, 2021, 02:31:48 PM
When were the sign on the left, and the railroad crossing signal on the right eliminated from MUTCD?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG



The sign on the left is still in the MUTCD. It just looks like this now.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/MUTCD_W10-1.svg/64px-MUTCD_W10-1.svg.png)
Yes, but I've known about that one long before the old version.


Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 12, 2021, 07:17:38 PM
The signal head that is mounted with "Stop on Red Signal" sign is a kluge.  It certainly doesn't belong with the sign.  It is supposed to resemble a single-head railroad signal.  The shield proportions are correct, but I've never seen a rectangular version anywhere.  Also, the lens placement is not correct for railroad signals, as there is supposed to be a minimum distance between each lens (such that an improperly displayed signal with more than one lens illuminated can be detected by the train crew from a long distance).  Just guessing, but it looks to me as if someone grabbed a modern traffic signal and adapted a rectangular shield to make it kinda resemble a railroad signal.  (Worse, I'm pretty sure that CSX would have certainly donated an old authentic Atlantic Coast Line signal head and provided technical advice so that this display could have been more authentic).

Zoom in on those lenses, though.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG
If somebody did grab a modern signal and made it look like a railroad signal as you suggest, they did a very convincing job.




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 13, 2021, 02:46:37 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 12, 2021, 07:17:38 PM
The signal head that is mounted with "Stop on Red Signal" sign is a kluge.  It certainly doesn't belong with the sign.  It is supposed to resemble a single-head railroad signal.  The shield proportions are correct, but I've never seen a rectangular version anywhere.  Also, the lens placement is not correct for railroad signals, as there is supposed to be a minimum distance between each lens (such that an improperly displayed signal with more than one lens illuminated can be detected by the train crew from a long distance).  Just guessing, but it looks to me as if someone grabbed a modern traffic signal and adapted a rectangular shield to make it kinda resemble a railroad signal.  (Worse, I'm pretty sure that CSX would have certainly donated an old authentic Atlantic Coast Line signal head and provided technical advice so that this display could have been more authentic).

Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 13, 2021, 09:00:17 AM
Zoom in on those lenses, though.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Folkston_Funnell_railroad_signs.JPG
If somebody did grab a modern signal and made it look like a railroad signal as you suggest, they did a very convincing job.

Never tried it, but railroad fresnel lenses should be interchangeable with traffic signal lenses.  They come in both 8-inch and 12-inch (and some other oddball sizes, as well).  Those guys look clear, but they are called "lunar white" and actually have a bluish tint.  That closeup does show several square and rectangular pieces screwed into the main signal backplate to widen the shield.  The closeup also reveals that the three signal hood fixtures are also authentic, so it's probably not constructed from a real traffic signal.   
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 15, 2021, 11:50:58 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51248256797_0427c9825e_c.jpg
Port of Miami, FL has some cool overheads.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51248256797_0427c9825e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 15, 2021, 02:48:47 PM
A great attempt, but that diagrammatic is so small that it's hard to make out the lane lines.

Also kind of interesting that they're using the same gantry design KDOT used for the I-35/I-435 junction. KDOT, of course, is historically one of the heaviest users of diagrammatics.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on June 17, 2021, 12:15:49 PM
Beverly Hills has some interesting Historic 66 signs on CA2.

(https://i.imgur.com/maXIvc1.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.072297,-118.4028244,3a,16.5y,267.14h,91.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26jKeg5BHx65fpt40l2n-g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Click image to view location on Google Maps street view.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 17, 2021, 05:06:41 PM
Not a sign. Pavement markings.

I have seen sharks teeth applied along the edge of the roadway rather than perpendicular to the roadway at roundabouts (example in Sedro-Woolley, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/DsWBoGSrApGfyppN8), variant in Puyallup, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/ipoZHzseE43weGXd7)); not sure if this is permitted or not. I do personally like it, and wish it were more common. I know it's the standard in a few European countries.

Anyways, I actually found this method of application applied to a regular slip lane: 10 Fwy at Dillon Road, Coachella, CA (https://goo.gl/maps/ptP5oQVAw2cvmtcM9). The standard look, as noted above, is for the sharks teeth to be perpendicular to the roadway, with at most white dashed lines along the roadway edge ('edge extension markings' IIRC). This basically combines the two into a single design.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 17, 2021, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 17, 2021, 05:06:41 PM
Not a sign. Pavement markings.

I have seen sharks teeth applied along the edge of the roadway rather than perpendicular to the roadway at roundabouts (example in Sedro-Woolley, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/DsWBoGSrApGfyppN8), variant in Puyallup, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/ipoZHzseE43weGXd7)); not sure if this is permitted or not. I do personally like it, and wish it were more common. I know it's the standard in a few European countries.

Anyways, I actually found this method of application applied to a regular slip lane: 10 Fwy at Dillon Road, Coachella, CA (https://goo.gl/maps/ptP5oQVAw2cvmtcM9). The standard look, as noted above, is for the sharks teeth to be perpendicular to the roadway, with at most white dashed lines along the roadway edge ('edge extension markings' IIRC). This basically combines the two into a single design.

I've been seeing some perpendicular "sharks teeth" turned the other way (sharp edge towards the traffic lane) being used here in North Carolina as a faux traffic calming measure.  I have no memory when or where, but it hasn't been that long ago (and we haven't travelled much recently).  I suspect its being used in some of the newer subdivision areas around Durham or Chapel Hill.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 17, 2021, 09:38:35 PM
The sharks teeth are called yield lines in MUTCD
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 18, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Interesting (https://goo.gl/maps/FFbMaBn32ULqgdZq5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 18, 2021, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 18, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Interesting (https://goo.gl/maps/FFbMaBn32ULqgdZq5)

There goes my plans for the weekend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 04:41:12 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 18, 2021, 04:39:42 PM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 18, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Interesting (https://goo.gl/maps/FFbMaBn32ULqgdZq5)

There goes my plans for the weekend.

Which were you planning to do:  feed or harass?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 18, 2021, 05:25:44 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 18, 2021, 04:41:12 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 18, 2021, 04:39:42 PM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 18, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Interesting (https://goo.gl/maps/FFbMaBn32ULqgdZq5)

There goes my plans for the weekend.

Which were you planning to do:  feed or harass?

Both.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on June 19, 2021, 12:28:56 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 18, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Interesting (https://goo.gl/maps/FFbMaBn32ULqgdZq5)

Oatman, AZ (https://goo.gl/maps/uaDRxmtKhTnE2TYM8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 19, 2021, 10:04:51 AM
This year:  "Ramp Closed St" from northbound I-75 in Detroit.

Also note the temporary exit number plaquette.  That's been there for years and has started peeling.  I don't know what that's about.

Also also note the "Rumble Strips / Attention Motorcyclists" sign just beyond.

(https://i.imgur.com/21M5jRo.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on June 20, 2021, 12:16:19 AM
Spotted this on US 23 south of Ashland, KY today.  The "open/closed" sign is posted before anything else referencing a weigh station...whether that's due to a missing sign or something, I don't know.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qd3XuGFh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: index on June 20, 2021, 12:00:40 PM
Is the City of Lincolnton making a scrapbook collage out of different signs?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4707783,-81.2566661,3a,75y,325.84h,92.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spuwSv_-LcrTP80XYQWRsiQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 20, 2021, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: index on June 20, 2021, 12:00:40 PM
Is the City of Lincolnton making a scrapbook collage out of different signs?

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4707783,-81.2566661,3a,75y,325.84h,92.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spuwSv_-LcrTP80XYQWRsiQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Unisign salad, anyone?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 20, 2021, 06:00:43 PM
Quote from: Harvestman on June 20, 2021, 12:16:19 AM
Spotted this on US 23 south of Ashland, KY today.  The "open/closed" sign is posted before anything else referencing a weigh station...whether that's due to a missing sign or something, I don't know.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qd3XuGFh.jpg)

Pretty sure there were signs posted prior to the weigh station on 23, which is at the Johnson/Floyd county line. They probably got knocked down and haven't been put back up yet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 20, 2021, 06:52:28 PM
I saw this last year but forgot about it until writing up a blog post just now. From SR 74 entering Alpine, Utah:

(https://i.imgur.com/0SNsW2C.jpg)

Welcome to Alpine... where we C⏱️MMIT to the speed LIMIT Because Alpine C❤️RES.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 20, 2021, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: US 89 on June 20, 2021, 06:52:28 PM
C❤️RES.

cores
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 22, 2021, 02:21:05 AM
Or perhaps "Cvres"

As in "Virginia is for losers". 😋
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Harvestman on June 22, 2021, 02:55:20 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 20, 2021, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: US 89 on June 20, 2021, 06:52:28 PM
C❤️RES.

cores

Kinda like those Jeep spare tire covers with paw prints in place of the "e"s.  I always read 'em as Joop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 22, 2021, 12:06:36 PM
Usually only metric usage on signs use decimals. This one in Steele City, FL uses point five instead of one half.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51262166123_c158fb8450_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on June 23, 2021, 11:26:06 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/Je6OhnC.jpeg)
Street blade for a street which you can only access from the other direction. (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8359594,-117.0998497,3a,69.1y,188.45h,86.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1LtU65ahLg5GYauWyamcxg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 23, 2021, 12:07:30 PM
I put that in the same category as street sign blades for cul-de-sacs that are visible but you can't actually get to from the "intersecting" road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 23, 2021, 01:23:09 PM
Thought this was interesting. On VA 18 between Paint Bank and Covington.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51265501045_a36409ef36_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m7a6p4)2021 Pre-back-to-the-office trip (KY-VA-WV) Day 2 - 045 (https://flic.kr/p/2m7a6p4) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on June 23, 2021, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 23, 2021, 01:23:09 PM
Thought this was interesting. On VA 18 between Paint Bank and Covington.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51265501045_a36409ef36_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m7a6p4)2021 Pre-back-to-the-office trip (KY-VA-WV) Day 2 - 045 (https://flic.kr/p/2m7a6p4) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Which gender is that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 23, 2021, 11:22:11 PM
Prince.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 24, 2021, 01:52:37 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2021, 02:21:05 AM
Or perhaps "Cvres"

As in "Virginia is for losers". 😋

I actually had this all Photoshopped up and ready to post the next time a certain poster here started his next wave of Virginia jingoism, but he seems to have vanished for the time being.

(https://i.imgur.com/lRm7rrx.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on June 24, 2021, 12:28:16 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 24, 2021, 01:52:37 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 22, 2021, 02:21:05 AM
Or perhaps "Cvres"

As in "Virginia is for losers". 😋

I actually had this all Photoshopped up and ready to post the next time a certain poster here started his next wave of Virginia jingoism, but he seems to have vanished for the time being.

(https://i.imgur.com/lRm7rrx.jpg)

Maybe he's on vacation in Pittsburgh...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on June 24, 2021, 09:04:07 PM
While I don't think any tall vehicles would take this road (there's a covered bridge nearby that is 11' 3", this is still a bit odd:

(https://i.imgur.com/GDre3BD.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 24, 2021, 10:27:01 PM
Some sort of protected area, I'm guessing? In most cases, the solution would be to remove the limb.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 25, 2021, 03:57:16 PM
Numerous G28-1 California Spades being used as reassurance shields on CA 43:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51269761397_3f89c1bd0b_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m7wVRp)43CAb (https://flic.kr/p/2m7wVRp) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51270502361_b2a8643b4e_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m7AJ7D)43CAh (https://flic.kr/p/2m7AJ7D) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51269760967_0bb1737246_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m7wVHZ)43CAi (https://flic.kr/p/2m7wVHZ) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 25, 2021, 09:33:20 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7503432,-78.6360404,3a,28.5y,35.69h,86.58t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGedQ-SthHq01h0WVOTBRcw!2e0!5s20130401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

I was thinking this sign means there is a signal merging onto the highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 25, 2021, 10:19:11 PM
^^I was thinking it is a short ramp with a hidden signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 26, 2021, 01:34:43 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4348194,-78.0689333,3a,44.5y,319.58h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYRepr4mXW1e3OF5CA8bQUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

confusing cause the lines are dotted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 26, 2021, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 26, 2021, 01:34:43 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4348194,-78.0689333,3a,44.5y,319.58h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYRepr4mXW1e3OF5CA8bQUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

confusing cause the lines are dotted.

Can't quite tell if that's trying to encourage zipper merging or not.

Certainly double-solid white lines would be better. And/or a different sign, such as "do not change lanes" or "stay in lane".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 26, 2021, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 26, 2021, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 26, 2021, 01:34:43 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4348194,-78.0689333,3a,44.5y,319.58h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYRepr4mXW1e3OF5CA8bQUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

confusing cause the lines are dotted.

Can't quite tell if that's trying to encourage zipper merging or not.

Certainly double-solid white lines would be better. And/or a different sign, such as "do not change lanes" or "stay in lane".

Not even sure what those signs are trying to accomplish in the first place. The two lanes merge down to one lane not too far past this point before the ramp joins the road below, so a regulation to not pass or to stay in lane isn't really advisable in this case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 27, 2021, 09:19:20 AM
Quote from: roadfro on June 26, 2021, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 26, 2021, 12:37:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 26, 2021, 01:34:43 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4348194,-78.0689333,3a,44.5y,319.58h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYRepr4mXW1e3OF5CA8bQUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

confusing cause the lines are dotted.

Can't quite tell if that's trying to encourage zipper merging or not.

Certainly double-solid white lines would be better. And/or a different sign, such as "do not change lanes" or "stay in lane".

Not even sure what those signs are trying to accomplish in the first place. The two lanes merge down to one lane not too far past this point before the ramp joins the road below, so a regulation to not pass or to stay in lane isn't really advisable in this case.

They probably didn't want cars trying to speed up to pass one another before the merge, for fear of them not making the curve without crashing. But that's stupid. There's plenty of situations like this that don't warrant that signage. And even then, "Stay in Lane" and a solid white line would be much more appropriate for conveying that message.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 27, 2021, 01:08:24 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 27, 2021, 09:19:20 AMThey probably didn't want cars trying to speed up to pass one another before the merge, for fear of them not making the curve without crashing. But that's stupid. There's plenty of situations like this that don't warrant that signage. And even then, "Stay in Lane" and a solid white line would be much more appropriate for conveying that message.

In context, this looks to me like a state-specific signing treatment intended to convey "Do not rush to cut off someone in the right lane."  "Stay In Lane" and a solid white line would not be appropriate because traffic in the right-hand lane does need to change out of it before it tapers off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 27, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
So, it's basically just a nanny sign. Typical.

Don't tell me when I have to merge. I'll merge at the taper if I damn well please.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 27, 2021, 10:46:42 PM
Makes no fucking sense at all. The southern end of the bypass in Ayden doesn't have them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 27, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
Don't tell me when I have to merge. I'll merge at the taper if I damn well please.

Except in Oklahoma, of course, where it is (was?) illegal to merge at the taper.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 28, 2021, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 27, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
Don't tell me when I have to merge. I'll merge at the taper if I damn well please.

Except in Oklahoma, of course, where it is (was?) illegal to merge at the taper.

Yeah, thankfully that's a "was (https://oklahoma.gov/odot/citizen/newsroom/2021/march/oklahoma-s-first-zipper-merge-coming-to-i-35-in-pauls-valley-thi.html#:~:text=Until%202018%2C%20state%20law%20in,construction%20areas%20as%20a%20reminder.&text=Drivers%20must%20continue%20to%20observe,zone%20and%20merge%20as%20directed.)".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on June 28, 2021, 05:09:35 PM
This is an interesting use of a one-way street sign for navigation.

(https://i.imgur.com/xwml658.jpeg) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6940732,-121.9034657,3a,15.6y,40.57h,91.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTsftYNKRLNtqG92NSUrp-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Click on the image to open in Google Street View
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 28, 2021, 07:14:30 PM
There's something like that in Newcastle, OK as well, pointing the way to City Hall: https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2496663,-97.6002028,3a,15y,210.97h,91.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqx_L_bL1m-uRTGnWhL47Ww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 29, 2021, 01:13:38 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 28, 2021, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 27, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 27, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
Don't tell me when I have to merge. I'll merge at the taper if I damn well please.

Except in Oklahoma, of course, where it is (was?) illegal to merge at the taper.

Yeah, thankfully that's a "was (https://oklahoma.gov/odot/citizen/newsroom/2021/march/oklahoma-s-first-zipper-merge-coming-to-i-35-in-pauls-valley-thi.html#:~:text=Until%202018%2C%20state%20law%20in,construction%20areas%20as%20a%20reminder.&text=Drivers%20must%20continue%20to%20observe,zone%20and%20merge%20as%20directed.)".

Even if the actual law has changed, I still saw several of those "state law merge now" signs along various I-40 construction projects in eastern Oklahoma about a month and a half ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 08:52:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7782833,-77.7832943,3a,23.2y,142.46h,79.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQEhpLrukzMejAND_IOJN2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2988306,-78.5984498,3a,56y,319.45h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ9lnl1f0raH8wr98CWBhLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I have no idea what the black and yellow signs mean.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 29, 2021, 08:57:15 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 08:52:28 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7782833,-77.7832943,3a,23.2y,142.46h,79.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQEhpLrukzMejAND_IOJN2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2988306,-78.5984498,3a,56y,319.45h,86.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ9lnl1f0raH8wr98CWBhLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I have no idea what the black and yellow signs mean.

They're object markers, often used where an obstacle is for extra emphasis. They're standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 11:16:07 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5957956,-77.3234418,3a,42.4y,285.09h,114.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKQs6jjE24ApkJatE2Y-YfQ!2e0!5s20190501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

I have no clue what the double red light means.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8406622,-77.0524565,3a,15y,359.7h,95.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skSNpDI-rNg5yZt9aafIk1A!2e0!5s20130401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

or arrow.....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on June 29, 2021, 11:39:58 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on June 29, 2021, 11:16:07 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5957956,-77.3234418,3a,42.4y,285.09h,114.37t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKQs6jjE24ApkJatE2Y-YfQ!2e0!5s20190501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

I have no clue what the double red light means.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8406622,-77.0524565,3a,15y,359.7h,95.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1skSNpDI-rNg5yZt9aafIk1A!2e0!5s20130401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

or arrow.....

Wrong thread.

And it's just a way for certain agencies to make sure drivers notice the red.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 30, 2021, 12:55:46 AM
I could count the flaws on this sign on more than one hand. Another Oklahoma special:

(https://i.imgur.com/R6gtCaJ.png)

(Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3835042,-97.0679102,3a,37.5y,93.34h,116.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOT6i5q27_uIHocgYbeGY7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 30, 2021, 01:59:26 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YMCg9Ypbbt3caPRx5
The blue banner for the MA state route I believe was for the interstates here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 30, 2021, 02:41:36 AM
This sign was on the Stockton bridge on US 202 in 2018... wasn't there a rule in the MUTCD forbidding anything that's not a road sign to look like a road sign?

(https://i.imgur.com/EtP8hUa.png)

(Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.382535,-74.9483454,3a,15y,262.06h,86.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHhDTsmbNbrBtrzJBNvCXfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 30, 2021, 09:23:30 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 30, 2021, 02:41:36 AM
This sign was on the Stockton bridge on US 202 in 2018... wasn't there a rule in the MUTCD forbidding anything that's not a road sign to look like a road sign?

(https://i.imgur.com/EtP8hUa.png)

(Street View (https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.382535,-74.9483454,3a,15y,262.06h,86.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHhDTsmbNbrBtrzJBNvCXfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en))

Similar to the "Give 'Em a Brake" (deliberate misspelling) signs sometimes seen in Michigan and maybe other states.  It's not in the MUTCD but one can argue it's legitimately a roadwork-related sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on June 30, 2021, 11:28:32 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6292432,-77.433549,3a,27.9y,304.1h,84.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_O2nHTCJ0WD-0_aru1JmwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Kind of random, but it makes more sense at least.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on July 02, 2021, 09:23:11 AM
I noticed yesterday that this is gone now. I hope it made its way into someone's collection. https://goo.gl/maps/jqgkeb1DpRb6mx3H9

(https://i.imgur.com/KCYfBDO.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: csw on July 03, 2021, 05:34:13 PM
An unusual MA 24 trailblazer in Berkley, Mass.
(https://i.imgur.com/a1pNSPO.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 04, 2021, 03:07:15 PM
No, it obviously means that the side road speed limit is 24mph, not 25.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 06, 2021, 02:12:16 AM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on June 28, 2021, 05:09:35 PM
This is an interesting use of a one-way street sign for navigation.

(https://i.imgur.com/xwml658.jpeg) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6940732,-121.9034657,3a,15.6y,40.57h,91.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTsftYNKRLNtqG92NSUrp-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Click on the image to open in Google Street View
I've mentioned some of these in Calverton and Riverhead, New York on past threads. Too bad I can't find any examples anymore.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 06, 2021, 08:33:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51296153780/in/dateposted-public/
Oregon Speed Limit signs that omit limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 06, 2021, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 06, 2021, 08:33:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51296153780/in/dateposted-public/
Oregon Speed Limit signs that omit limit.

That was (is) Oregon standard. I seem to recall it had something to do with Oregon not having an actual speed limit, but a prima facie speed limit or something like that, which for some reason meant they couldn't include the actual word "limit".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 07, 2021, 01:42:11 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 06, 2021, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 06, 2021, 08:33:11 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51296153780/in/dateposted-public/
Oregon Speed Limit signs that omit limit.

That was (is) Oregon standard. I seem to recall it had something to do with Oregon not having an actual speed limit, but a prima facie speed limit or something like that, which for some reason meant they couldn't include the actual word "limit".

That was the rumor going around in my high school, in Washington State.  Tell it to the judge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on July 08, 2021, 02:11:43 PM

One-way sign on a two-way road.  Imperial Highway at Palm Street in Fullerton, CA.

(https://i.imgur.com/8khdYML.jpg)

This is facing south.  For a long time this intersection–and only this intersection– used to have one-way signs for both directions. There used to be another one-way sign on the opposite pole for drivers facing north.  That one got removed several years ago, but the one on the southern side remained.  When they recently upgraded the wheelchair ramps for the sidewalk, they replaced both the signal pole and the one-way sign on the south side of the intersection.  So this a new erroneous sign.

No idea why they ever installed the signs here.  There are many other sections of Imperial Highway divided by a raised median.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 08, 2021, 07:30:43 PM
Federal Way, WA recently added one-way signs along the entire stretch of Pacific Hwy (WA-99).

You can see both the near-right and far-left one-way signs in this GSV image: https://goo.gl/maps/N3Z3XdM7ChtAcB5F8

I really don't get the point. To their credit, there is a median along the entire length.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 08, 2021, 07:34:45 PM
One Way signs are common along divided highways, more common in rural areas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 08, 2021, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 08, 2021, 07:34:45 PM
One Way signs are common along divided highways, more common in rural areas.

Right, but I don't think it's normal for them to be used along urban roads just because there's a raised median.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 08, 2021, 07:40:25 PM
They're usually more common on divided roads with wider medians, like more than 25 ft wide.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
I think this one in New Mexico could fit under the "ugly" category. US-285 at NM-20.

https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7 (https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 09, 2021, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
I think this one in New Mexico could fit under the "ugly" category. US-285 at NM-20.

https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7 (https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7)

Yeah..... that's definitely ugly!!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on July 09, 2021, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
I think this one in New Mexico could fit under the "ugly" category. US-285 at NM-20.

https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7 (https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7)
Quote from: plain on July 09, 2021, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 09:30:51 AM


I think this one in New Mexico could fit under the "ugly" category. US-285 at NM-20.

https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7 (https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7)

Yeah..... that's definitely ugly!!!!

I've noticed New Mexico *really* struggles with signage on any type of roadway. I'm thinking it's mostly contractor driven without a lot of detail on plans?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: machias on July 09, 2021, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
I think this one in New Mexico could fit under the "ugly" category. US-285 at NM-20.

https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7 (https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7)
Quote from: plain on July 09, 2021, 10:00:13 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 09, 2021, 09:30:51 AM


I think this one in New Mexico could fit under the "ugly" category. US-285 at NM-20.

https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7 (https://goo.gl/maps/SN5s3rXSEsHscBCC7)

Yeah..... that's definitely ugly!!!!

I've noticed New Mexico *really* struggles with signage on any type of roadway. I'm thinking it's mostly contractor driven without a lot of detail on plans?

We've had this discussion on other threads. New Mexico just struggles. Period.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on July 09, 2021, 09:21:51 PM
Interesting pair of signs in Clute, TX I've driven past a couple times:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0579619,-95.3509389,3a,53.5y,274.86h,89.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMzo41CzT_R-pYYkj__YE8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And they have a brother on the other side of the chemical plants:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0291923,-95.3767887,3a,32.8y,8.73h,88.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssOiPpGcjli8Fh9vMLMTXuA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Clute has some other strange signs, such as this school speed limit sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0245021,-95.3993266,3a,15y,279.33h,90.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjvnTNiZhFpM6n3kdEWGvTQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.015016,-95.4048041,3a,15y,116.61h,88.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVvwTnBEh-lXziSDK29M8FQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 10, 2021, 08:54:01 PM
What on earth is the plant for?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 10, 2021, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 10, 2021, 08:54:01 PM
What on earth is the plant for?

Looks like it's a Dow chemical plant that also has an R&D component.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on July 10, 2021, 11:11:32 PM
I'm not sure I've ever seen a street blade with a 3/4 error.


(https://i.imgur.com/Uo6aOo2.jpg)
(https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6999062,-121.8959055,3a,16.5y,122.66h,97.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxbPyBjCZ83NQLPded2M0PA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DxbPyBjCZ83NQLPded2M0PA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D349.35748%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on July 11, 2021, 12:36:49 AM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on July 10, 2021, 11:11:32 PM
I'm not sure I've ever seen a street blade with a 3/4 error.


(https://i.imgur.com/Uo6aOo2.jpg)
(https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6999062,-121.8959055,3a,16.5y,122.66h,97.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxbPyBjCZ83NQLPded2M0PA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DxbPyBjCZ83NQLPded2M0PA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D349.35748%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)

One of way too many to count...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/W5Bmybi6xhU9bB2AA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 11, 2021, 01:47:26 AM
I think most of the 3/4ths errors that I see are street blades, followed by BGSs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 11, 2021, 02:42:54 AM
Yeah, the 3/4 error is actually more likely to appear on street blades, since those are more likely to be put up by city DOTs with engineers that don't know the MUTCD as well as they should. Which means it's more likely to become standard practice, too *cough*KCK*cough*.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on July 11, 2021, 07:56:37 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 10, 2021, 08:54:01 PM
What on earth is the plant for?
I believe DOW extracts brine from the ground in the area (which is a salt dome, if my memory serves me right), so the plant might be a salt refinery (I used to know somebody who worked down there). Not sure why these signs were necessary, as there are some chlorine and bleach plants (presumably more dangerous if something goes wrong) in the surrounding area that don't have such signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on July 12, 2021, 01:16:55 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on July 09, 2021, 09:21:51 PM
Interesting pair of signs in Clute, TX I've driven past a couple times:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0579619,-95.3509389,3a,53.5y,274.86h,89.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMzo41CzT_R-pYYkj__YE8A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And they have a brother on the other side of the chemical plants:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0291923,-95.3767887,3a,32.8y,8.73h,88.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssOiPpGcjli8Fh9vMLMTXuA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Clute has some other strange signs, such as this school speed limit sign:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.0245021,-95.3993266,3a,15y,279.33h,90.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjvnTNiZhFpM6n3kdEWGvTQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.015016,-95.4048041,3a,15y,116.61h,88.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVvwTnBEh-lXziSDK29M8FQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

If there is a plant emergency, I don't know if I want to travel another 6 feet, let alone 600 feet, towards the plant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 12, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
I've never seen this before. A BYS on a railroad crossing gantry.

Grand Ave in Elmwood Park, IL
https://goo.gl/maps/yN4RydaHFzynMMvd6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 12, 2021, 01:47:21 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 12, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
I've never seen this before. A BYS on a railroad crossing gantry.

Grand Ave in Elmwood Park, IL
https://goo.gl/maps/yN4RydaHFzynMMvd6

That's actually pretty neat for that crossing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 12, 2021, 10:54:25 PM
Oklahoma accidentally posted a run of signs that isn't dogshit! I-44 between S.W. 89th Street in OKC and Newcastle. Only error I can find is a single exit tab on the wrong side. Arrows are correct, shields are correct, fonts are correct (looks like EEM, actually). Very nice to see!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3801851,-97.574315,3a,75y,187.81h,90.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smKuu_mmHq3mWSv-IgZR1UQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 and continue south.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 13, 2021, 08:00:17 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 12, 2021, 10:54:25 PM
Oklahoma accidentally posted a run of signs that isn't dogshit! I-44 between S.W. 89th Street in OKC and Newcastle. Only error I can find is a single exit tab on the wrong side. Arrows are correct, shields are correct, fonts are correct (looks like EEM, actually). Very nice to see!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3801851,-97.574315,3a,75y,187.81h,90.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smKuu_mmHq3mWSv-IgZR1UQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 and continue south.

That is able to be unique, odd, and interesting all at the same time. Those are some pretty decent signs.

On the contrary, I made the mistake of going north to discover this monstrosity.
https://goo.gl/maps/V3FUdundrt5d46pS9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on July 13, 2021, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 12, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
I've never seen this before. A BYS on a railroad crossing gantry.

Grand Ave in Elmwood Park, IL
https://goo.gl/maps/yN4RydaHFzynMMvd6

Quote from: plain on July 12, 2021, 01:47:21 PM
That's actually pretty neat for that crossing.

Wow.  This railroader's understanding of the MUTCD is that the flashing light signals (FLS) are required to be mounted on the gantry and not under the catwalk.  I don't think that I will find that specifically written in the manual.  We also had a requirement for aiming the focal length of those roundels down the highway based on the height of the FLS and the elevation of the roadway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 13, 2021, 12:02:02 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 13, 2021, 08:00:17 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 12, 2021, 10:54:25 PM
Oklahoma accidentally posted a run of signs that isn't dogshit! I-44 between S.W. 89th Street in OKC and Newcastle. Only error I can find is a single exit tab on the wrong side. Arrows are correct, shields are correct, fonts are correct (looks like EEM, actually). Very nice to see!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3801851,-97.574315,3a,75y,187.81h,90.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smKuu_mmHq3mWSv-IgZR1UQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 and continue south.

That is able to be unique, odd, and interesting all at the same time. Those are some pretty decent signs.

On the contrary, I made the mistake of going north to discover this monstrosity.
https://goo.gl/maps/V3FUdundrt5d46pS9

I mean, those signs looked pretty sharp when installed in the mid 2000s. Deep green and bright white sheeting made them really easy to read. But I guess the sheeting didn't hold up. All of the new signs on that stretch replaced signs that were as beat up as those. Not sure why the ones at the system interchange, of all things, didn't get replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 13, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/

I know the ceiling gives no room for a normal sign, but looks cool though.


(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 13, 2021, 12:30:25 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 13, 2021, 08:00:17 AM
On the contrary, I made the mistake of going north to discover this monstrosity.
https://goo.gl/maps/V3FUdundrt5d46pS9

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 13, 2021, 12:02:02 PM
I mean, those signs looked pretty sharp when installed in the mid 2000s. Deep green and bright white sheeting made them really easy to read. But I guess the sheeting didn't hold up. All of the new signs on that stretch replaced signs that were as beat up as those. Not sure why the ones at the system interchange, of all things, didn't get replaced.

Goodness, yes, I certainly noticed those signs three weeks ago on my way back from Del Rio.  As I mentioned in another thread:

Quote from: kphoger on July 08, 2021, 03:04:14 PM
A lot of the BGSes along I-44 on the south side of OKC are really faded, and I don't remember them being that way just 1½ years ago.  What happened?  It's gotten to the point that you can barely even read a couple of them.

Here in Wichita, the Interstate shields have completely peeled off of these signs (https://goo.gl/maps/nQSwoeex86yPJPuk9) in the year and a half since the GSV was taken–leaving nothing but a white I-shield-shaped blanks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 13, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on July 13, 2021, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 12, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
I've never seen this before. A BYS on a railroad crossing gantry.

Grand Ave in Elmwood Park, IL
https://goo.gl/maps/yN4RydaHFzynMMvd6

Quote from: plain on July 12, 2021, 01:47:21 PM
That's actually pretty neat for that crossing.

Wow.  This railroader's understanding of the MUTCD is that the flashing light signals (FLS) are required to be mounted on the gantry and not under the catwalk.  I don't think that I will find that specifically written in the manual.  We also had a requirement for aiming the focal length of those roundels down the highway based on the height of the FLS and the elevation of the roadway.

In 2005, on the day before Thanksgiving during the afternoon rush hour there was a terrible collision at this point.  A fairly busy commuter rail line intersects the street at an odd angle, so the crossing is very long.  The signage here and other improvements were meant to improve safety.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTu11n0Ehc

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna10185175

Quote from: roadman65 on July 13, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/

I know the ceiling gives no room for a normal sign, but looks cool though.


(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/)

These are cool.  Signs like this are becoming more popular within tunnels.  I believe similar type of signage exists in the new WA-99 tunnel in Seattle and in I-93 tunnel in Boston.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 04:52:52 AM
These (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2654478,-76.3076138,3a,44.4y,226.21h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1Sf9Pgcq0BLf-a2JeqvCsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) signs don't match. Which sign looks better?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 15, 2021, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: mrsman on July 13, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 13, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/

I know the ceiling gives no room for a normal sign, but looks cool though.

These are cool.  Signs like this are becoming more popular within tunnels.  I believe similar type of signage exists in the new WA-99 tunnel in Seattle and in I-93 tunnel in Boston.

I agree. It might be interesting to try to redesign signs to fit on such a tight space. It would make for quite the challenge!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 15, 2021, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 13, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/

I know the ceiling gives no room for a normal sign, but looks cool though.


(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/)

Or go with a normal sign if the ceiling does provide enough room, such as this one on northbound M-10 under the TCF Center in downtown Detroit:

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3263837,-83.0508777,3a,75y,260.65h,70.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVzSFYw2yRrE5wUAaloD8EA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on July 15, 2021, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 13, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 13, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/

I know the ceiling gives no room for a normal sign, but looks cool though.


(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/)

These are cool.  Signs like this are becoming more popular within tunnels.  I believe similar type of signage exists in the new WA-99 tunnel in Seattle and in I-93 tunnel in Boston.

Yes they do in both cases. If multiple lines are needed, they'll space additional signs about 100 feet apart. Here's a streetview example from Seattle: https://goo.gl/maps/YnZPRZVsKaxKBaJ67
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 04:52:52 AM
These (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2654478,-76.3076138,3a,44.4y,226.21h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1Sf9Pgcq0BLf-a2JeqvCsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) signs don't match. Which sign looks better?

wut
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 04:52:52 AM
These (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2654478,-76.3076138,3a,44.4y,226.21h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1Sf9Pgcq0BLf-a2JeqvCsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) signs don't match. Which sign looks better?

wut
if you know what I'm taking about lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on July 15, 2021, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 04:52:52 AM
These (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2654478,-76.3076138,3a,44.4y,226.21h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1Sf9Pgcq0BLf-a2JeqvCsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) signs don't match. Which sign looks better?

wut
if you know what I'm taking about lol

The arrow on the right side looks to be sharpened a bit more than the arrow on the left side. That's like one of the most subtle differences between two signs I've ever seen, it took me a while to figure out the difference between the two.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on July 15, 2021, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 04:52:52 AM
These (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2654478,-76.3076138,3a,44.4y,226.21h,76.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1Sf9Pgcq0BLf-a2JeqvCsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) signs don't match. Which sign looks better?

wut
if you know what I'm taking about lol

The arrow on the right side looks to be sharpened a bit more than the arrow on the left side. That's like one of the most subtle differences between two signs I've ever seen, it took me a while to figure out the difference between the two.
Here's (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1307155,-79.2215393,3a,39.2y,300.05h,87.6t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sUBE1GqpMaMYp24MziqyRzQ!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i13312!8i6656) the current ones we use right now.

Do you like the old or the new sharpened arrow better?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
I can barely even tell the difference now that I know what it is.  This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
I can barely even tell the difference now that I know what it is.  This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.
And this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7855304,-77.3687049,3a,15y,301.19h,81.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLh9FsQagZ_ExFoHaDuovLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) one does not match and I think the sign itself is a little smaller.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 15, 2021, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
I can barely even tell the difference now that I know what it is.  This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.
And this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7855304,-77.3687049,3a,15y,301.19h,81.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLh9FsQagZ_ExFoHaDuovLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) one does not match and I think the sign itself is a little smaller.

And kphoger's comment goes right over your head.  Let me try:  You really need to find something to occupy your time if you're obsessing over minutia like this, especially when motorists will see it for only a few seconds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 15, 2021, 05:32:22 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
I can barely even tell the difference now that I know what it is.  This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.
And this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7855304,-77.3687049,3a,15y,301.19h,81.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLh9FsQagZ_ExFoHaDuovLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) one does not match and I think the sign itself is a little smaller.

And kphoger's comment goes right over your head.  Let me try:  You really need to find something to occupy your time if you're obsessing over minutia like this, especially when motorists will see it for only a few seconds.
:bigass:

That's so funny.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.

Has it (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13462.msg2006454)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
Like, what kind of smaller arrow does this sign use?

US-64
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WAMCtG5RCghN3hUu6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
Like, what kind of smaller arrow does this sign use?

US-64
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WAMCtG5RCghN3hUu6

That's a Type B arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
Like, what kind of smaller arrow does this sign use?

US-64
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WAMCtG5RCghN3hUu6

That's a Type B arrow.
At least it's better than this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/YL9QbAa9Gik8NshZ6) sign for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 15, 2021, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.

Has it (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13462.msg2006454)?

At least I can see the difference between those. I still can barely see any difference between the various arrows tolbs has posted ... and there is no way I would ever be able to identify that at speed. I honestly thought he was talking about how the left stop sign was fading at the bottom right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 15, 2021, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
Like, what kind of smaller arrow does this sign use?

US-64
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WAMCtG5RCghN3hUu6

That's a Type B arrow.
At least it's better than this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/YL9QbAa9Gik8NshZ6) sign for sure.

Meh. I think it looks fine. You want to see bad looking arrows, head up to Ogden UT where there are a few grossly (https://goo.gl/maps/fSoapocmjBGUuaLZ6) oversized (https://goo.gl/maps/VrumeF8Gsx88NBif8) arrows on I-15/84 south just before 84 splits off.

(Also just noticed that the cardinal directions are lowercased on the second set of signs... clearly whatever contractor made these didn't proofread.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 15, 2021, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 15, 2021, 05:57:33 PM
Like, what kind of smaller arrow does this sign use?

US-64
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WAMCtG5RCghN3hUu6

That's a Type B arrow.
At least it's better than this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/YL9QbAa9Gik8NshZ6) sign for sure.

Meh. I think it looks fine. You want to see bad looking arrows, head up to Ogden UT where there are a few grossly (https://goo.gl/maps/fSoapocmjBGUuaLZ6) oversized (https://goo.gl/maps/VrumeF8Gsx88NBif8) arrows on I-15/84 south just before 84 splits off.

(Also just noticed that the cardinal directions are lowercased on the second set of signs... clearly whatever contractor made these didn't proofread.)
sloppy...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 06:24:23 PM
Oh, are we complaining about our states' arrow usage now? Let me play! (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3918545,-97.5033925,3a,75y,101.46h,100.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssQ191cUva2jitNBK1TJHhA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(this wouldn't be so bad if they didn't do this on every damn sign in the metro)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on July 15, 2021, 06:38:30 PM
Arrows on signs are one of those things that I don't really care about (unless something about it is egregiously wrong, like the first SLC sign US 89 just posted).

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 06:24:23 PM
Oh, are we complaining about our states' arrow usage now? Let me play! (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3918545,-97.5033925,3a,75y,101.46h,100.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssQ191cUva2jitNBK1TJHhA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(this wouldn't be so bad if they didn't do this on every damn sign in the metro)
The only thing I dislike about that sign is the Series F used on the 35 shield. The sign looks great otherwise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 15, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
Time to start a petition for a "tolbs17 in one thread" thread?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 11:11:30 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 15, 2021, 07:35:38 PM
Time to start a petition for a "tolbs17 in one thread" thread?
Where do I sign?  His spamming the forum makes it more difficult to navigate and separate the wheat from the chaff.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 15, 2021, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.

Has it (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13462.msg2006454)?

Ah, glad I'm not the only one who noticed those weird Oklahoma arrows. They just look so... off. They make me uncomfortable.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 16, 2021, 12:54:36 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 15, 2021, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 15, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 15, 2021, 05:10:50 PM
This has reached a whole new level of pedantry, even for this forum.

Has it (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13462.msg2006454)?

Ah, glad I'm not the only one who noticed those weird Oklahoma arrows. They just look so... off. They make me uncomfortable.  :crazy:

The blunt arrow isn't as bad as its rarer (but still non-standard) cousin, the sharp arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.176828,-97.4942168,3a,15y,345.26h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNSmVOik6GnHKRUcfDzuV2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Both of them are slowly losing out to the standard (but incorrectly-used) Type D arrow.

My kingdom for a standard Type A arrow for a change!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 16, 2021, 02:31:47 AM
My arrow is bigger than your arrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/jc2inQJ.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 02:38:16 AM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5918496,-77.3979734,3a,15y,134.64h,91.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWjHG6NW9VqMaeE2lHpVTlg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) arrow is weird looking! And I see this sign all the time.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 04:32:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4722606,-77.6706448,3a,15y,10.03h,87.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfGMveqtW9pt8U6DdXEHUmA!2e0!5s20180701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 16, 2021, 07:51:12 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 16, 2021, 02:31:47 AM
My arrow is bigger than your arrow.

(https://i.imgur.com/jc2inQJ.png)

If I'm reading that right, that's 800 mm or about 31 inches. That's not that much bigger than the typical BGS arrow in the US, is it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 16, 2021, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 16, 2021, 07:51:12 AMIf I'm reading that right, that's 800 mm or about 31 inches. That's not that much bigger than the typical BGS arrow in the US, is it?

I think that 800 mm measurement applies to the smaller arrow on the bottom panel.  This design was generated in CarDim (short for dimensionamiento de carteles, cartel being the peninsular Spanish term for a designable guide sign), and the measurement boxes tend to overflow onto a second or even a third page for complex designs.

It's been a while since I studied Norma 8.1-IC (the Spanish direction sign design bible), but I recall that it correlates arrow length to panel height in the 2001 edition (which would have been used to design this sign), and I think that rule has been retained in some form in the 2015 (current) edition since I still see multipanel carteles where each panel has a different-sized arrow.  The arrow in the top panel is probably around 1600 mm (63 in) in length, which makes it wildly oversized for a typical arrow on an American freeway guide sign with capital letter height of 16 in.  On this sign the altura basica ("basic height," or Hb--capital letter height of primary destination legend) is 240 mm (9.4 in), so the arrow is even more out of proportion.

In the US arrow size is typically correlated to capital letter height of primary destination legend, and I think SignCAD defaults to Type A arrow length of 35.6 in for 16 in caps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on July 16, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 04:32:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4722606,-77.6706448,3a,15y,10.03h,87.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfGMveqtW9pt8U6DdXEHUmA!2e0!5s20180701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

???

That's a SCHOOL ZONE sign, not a crosswalk sign.  It appears there is a school ahead.
A SCHOOL CROSSING SIGN would have two parallel lines where the "children's" feet are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on July 16, 2021, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on July 16, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 04:32:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4722606,-77.6706448,3a,15y,10.03h,87.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfGMveqtW9pt8U6DdXEHUmA!2e0!5s20180701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

???

That's a SCHOOL ZONE sign, not a crosswalk sign.  It appears there is a school ahead.
A SCHOOL CROSSING SIGN would have two parallel lines where the "children's" feet are.
Looking at the street-view timeline, it looks like the new sign has the kiddies going the opposite way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 16, 2021, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on July 16, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 04:32:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4722606,-77.6706448,3a,15y,10.03h,87.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfGMveqtW9pt8U6DdXEHUmA!2e0!5s20180701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

???

That's a SCHOOL ZONE sign, not a crosswalk sign.  It appears there is a school ahead.
A SCHOOL CROSSING SIGN would have two parallel lines where the "children's" feet are.
That changed with the 2003 MUTCD.  A school crossing sign is now the school ahead sign with a diagonal downward arrow placard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 03:23:04 PM
Quote from: renegade on July 16, 2021, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on July 16, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 04:32:07 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4722606,-77.6706448,3a,15y,10.03h,87.92t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfGMveqtW9pt8U6DdXEHUmA!2e0!5s20180701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

???

That's a SCHOOL ZONE sign, not a crosswalk sign.  It appears there is a school ahead.
A SCHOOL CROSSING SIGN would have two parallel lines where the "children's" feet are.
Looking at the street-view timeline, it looks like the new sign has the kiddies going the opposite way.
I wonder why they did that...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 03:55:36 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6074364,-77.3458134,3a,15y,208.38h,84.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWpD2OQb9YufSaI9DbNpfcw!2e0!5s20120401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Compare the years and see the difference of this sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on July 16, 2021, 10:07:29 PM
Different color.  Is it good, bad, or ugly?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 16, 2021, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: renegade on July 16, 2021, 10:07:29 PM
Different color.  Is it good, bad, or ugly?
Well the yellow-green is more visible so that's definitely a step-ups. Those type of signs were first introduced in the 90s to reduce pedestrian deaths.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 17, 2021, 12:38:39 AM
I think I've posted this before, but it bears repeating.

Paper arrow (https://goo.gl/maps/EMkWLfgJnuXiyzF79)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on July 18, 2021, 03:25:34 AM
Talking about arrows, Seattle (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6528876,-122.3761558,3a,75.5y,7.05h,104.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa3f8qUpIf3pROH9l11S3xg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) loves (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.57152,-122.3314832,3a,35.5y,93.23h,101.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfaA2Pjdzlncay-8Ocy3jJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) weird (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.654619,-122.3713012,3a,24.2y,308.09h,94.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGKrei_U_vfHrNeF36uoQIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) arrows (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5492716,-122.334918,3a,75y,149.07h,90.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Mdq6s0pqD9fpbGxH2SaWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en). Seriously, those links are just scratching the surface of the weirdness you can find around here. It feels like almost every Seattle guide sign from more than a few years ago has something wrong with its design!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 18, 2021, 06:50:06 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51319352510_f236ad7014_k.jpg)This typical Caltrans Freeway Entrance sign hidden from view behind a fence.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
Do these wires on this sign control the electricity?

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3351956,-76.9824317,3a,24.3y,6.62h,95.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssX7pXcUBcah1OW7Z2Nw4ig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on July 19, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
When NYCDOT wanted to be inclusive to that one woman on the team.

(https://i.ibb.co/LxrYGFn/IMG-7307.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on July 19, 2021, 05:23:09 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 12:06:34 AM
Do these wires on this sign control the electricity?

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3351956,-76.9824317,3a,24.3y,6.62h,95.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssX7pXcUBcah1OW7Z2Nw4ig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

A closer view (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3353422,-76.9824254,3a,15y,28.45h,109.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD1g-ZZgHv7WwVDHjDZjVSw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1) shows the signal wires are hanging from the top support cable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 05:09:53 PM
And this (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7336562,-76.2974322,3a,15.6y,214.03h,101.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6yX2TCLeh3wLBFNQHqbmpQ!2e0!5s20190401T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) arrow is odd looking. Hell the signs look terrible looking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 19, 2021, 10:41:11 PM
Looks like Caltrans here put a smaller shield over the larger shield that it is to replace.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51322397646_9854ce359b_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 19, 2021, 10:56:57 PM
Is this sign in Alabama, or somewhere further west?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I-10_Pensacola_-_Slatted_Sign_(46016906285).jpg

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 20, 2021, 06:45:15 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.

There's also a few left in Huntsville. Mobile has a lot of them, I think all of the Montgomery (https://flic.kr/p/P7cfNz) (signage project, circa 2019) and Birmingham (https://flic.kr/p/Uk6GCY) ones (major I-59/20 re-construction) are gone.

US 72 at AL 255 (front) (https://flic.kr/p/2iR2iyo)
US 72 at AL 255 (back) (https://flic.kr/p/HmHNbe)
US 231/431 North (https://flic.kr/p/2iR2jqd)

Are the Delaware examples still around? I didn't see any in 2019 on I-495, but I don't recall driving the entire length.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jmacswimmer on July 20, 2021, 08:00:31 AM
Quote from: formulanone on July 20, 2021, 06:45:15 AM
Are the Delaware examples still around? I didn't see any in 2019 on I-495, but I don't recall driving the entire length.

Gone - replaced by regular clearview signs on a monotube gantry. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7247197,-75.5345325,3a,75y,222.36h,84.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2RTFj7DwItyjPetlDnt5Ag!2e0!5s20201101T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 20, 2021, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on July 19, 2021, 12:23:42 AM
When NYCDOT wanted to be inclusive to that one woman on the team.

(https://i.ibb.co/LxrYGFn/IMG-7307.jpg)

Wow. They tried to virtue signal, but they couldn't even do that right. Unless there is only actually one woman there...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 20, 2021, 09:41:12 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 19, 2021, 05:09:53 PM
And this (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7336562,-76.2974322,3a,15.6y,214.03h,101.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6yX2TCLeh3wLBFNQHqbmpQ!2e0!5s20190401T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) arrow is odd looking. Hell the signs look terrible looking.

The arrow looks fine to me. And the signs in general don't look terrible looking...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 20, 2021, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.
So I take it you won't find any of these in Mississippi?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 20, 2021, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.

Even further than that - at least one still stands in Birmingham:

(https://i.imgur.com/XOAtpde.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 20, 2021, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: US 89 on July 20, 2021, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.

Even further than that - at least one still stands in Birmingham:

(https://i.imgur.com/XOAtpde.jpg)

I swear some used to be in Texas many years ago.  I remember the first time I saw them on I-10 in Mobile, I wasn't shocked because I had seen that design before. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on July 20, 2021, 12:51:23 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 20, 2021, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: US 89 on July 20, 2021, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.

Even further than that - at least one still stands in Birmingham:

(https://i.imgur.com/XOAtpde.jpg)

I swear some used to be in Texas many years ago.  I remember the first time I saw them on I-10 in Mobile, I wasn't shocked because I had seen that design before. 
There was one on I-95 South in Portsmouth NH, approaching Exit 5. Alas, it's long gone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 20, 2021, 03:39:22 PM
This sign seems a bit redundant:

https://goo.gl/maps/x9KjgCdvfPrnDBW96

"Left turn must yield" directly adjacent to a flashing yellow arrow signal with "Left turn yield on flashing [yellow arrow]".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 20, 2021, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 20, 2021, 03:39:22 PM
This sign seems a bit redundant:

https://goo.gl/maps/x9KjgCdvfPrnDBW96

"Left turn must yield" directly adjacent to a flashing yellow arrow signal with "Left turn yield on flashing [yellow arrow]".

Dates back to when there was just a green ball there (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7148953,-122.1810812,3a,46.4y,181.34h,100.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEEgr_l7A1fLtNAKOde80fw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Probably just an instance of whoever put together the order to put up the FYA not knowing/forgetting/not caring that there was a sign there, so the install crew never took it down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 21, 2021, 01:46:02 PM
I think it's time for either Caltrans or the MTC to remove the covered sign completely and update the one on the left to have both island communities as the controls.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51326033710_afc3aef03a_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 21, 2021, 07:13:49 PM
Quote from: jay8g on July 18, 2021, 03:25:34 AM
Talking about arrows, Seattle (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6528876,-122.3761558,3a,75.5y,7.05h,104.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa3f8qUpIf3pROH9l11S3xg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) loves (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.57152,-122.3314832,3a,35.5y,93.23h,101.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfaA2Pjdzlncay-8Ocy3jJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) weird (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.654619,-122.3713012,3a,24.2y,308.09h,94.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGKrei_U_vfHrNeF36uoQIg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) arrows (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5492716,-122.334918,3a,75y,149.07h,90.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Mdq6s0pqD9fpbGxH2SaWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en). Seriously, those links are just scratching the surface of the weirdness you can find around here. It feels like almost every Seattle guide sign from more than a few years ago has something wrong with its design!

The 4th St S one even covered up what looks like it was the most normal arrow of the bunch.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 21, 2021, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: DRMan on July 20, 2021, 12:51:23 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 20, 2021, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: US 89 on July 20, 2021, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 19, 2021, 11:30:10 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 19, 2021, 11:13:00 PM
^^ Alabama had the slotted signs in hurricane areas.  I don't know if that sign still exists.
Slotted signs are as far north as Montgomery.

Even further than that - at least one still stands in Birmingham:

(https://i.imgur.com/XOAtpde.jpg)

I swear some used to be in Texas many years ago.  I remember the first time I saw them on I-10 in Mobile, I wasn't shocked because I had seen that design before. 
There was one on I-95 South in Portsmouth NH, approaching Exit 5. Alas, it's long gone.

All these years I didn't realize that slotted signs were designed more for hurricane-force winds and not just for aesthetics at the time.

BTW, there use to be one in Columbus, OH on the northern stretch of EB I-270 between OH-315 & US-23.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 21, 2021, 11:12:47 PM
When talking about the arrows again, What makes this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5472546,-82.605845,3a,15y,350.59h,97.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2FKHdunVMhxbajvXKUKnWg!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i13312!8i6656) sign point the arrow in a different angle which is the old style way?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 21, 2021, 11:42:34 PM
Are these (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5919851,-82.5659487,3a,39.7y,110.45h,90.51t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJ-vMVx5b74MleXh49agiQg!2e0!5s20180901T000000!7i13312!8i6656) signs still around? It's been a while since I saw a sign like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 21, 2021, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 21, 2021, 11:12:47 PM
When talking about the arrows again, What makes this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5472546,-82.605845,3a,15y,350.59h,97.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2FKHdunVMhxbajvXKUKnWg!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i13312!8i6656) sign point the arrow in a different angle which is the old style way?

If I remember correctly the rules say that the angle of the arrow is supposed to be roughly the same as the angle the ramp diverges from the road (so if the exit diverges sharply the arrow should be tilted more sharply). But most states don't bother doing this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 22, 2021, 03:20:48 AM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on July 15, 2021, 12:12:06 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 13, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 13, 2021, 12:05:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/

I know the ceiling gives no room for a normal sign, but looks cool though.


(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51309101725/)

These are cool.  Signs like this are becoming more popular within tunnels.  I believe similar type of signage exists in the new WA-99 tunnel in Seattle and in I-93 tunnel in Boston.

Yes they do in both cases. If multiple lines are needed, they'll space additional signs about 100 feet apart. Here's a streetview example from Seattle: https://goo.gl/maps/YnZPRZVsKaxKBaJ67

Same situation on the I-5 express lanes in Seattle and the I-90 tunnel leading out of Seattle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.599026,-82.5352417,3a,37.7y,117.85h,87.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbKNy8AazZsYieM3siBh7eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) should have an overhead sign saying "EXIT ONLY". I'm guessing that's the old fashioned way of pointing at the exit lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 22, 2021, 09:13:35 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.599026,-82.5352417,3a,37.7y,117.85h,87.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbKNy8AazZsYieM3siBh7eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) should have an overhead sign saying "EXIT ONLY". I'm guessing that's the old fashioned way of pointing at the exit lane.

It's not really old fashioned, as much as it's more just an alternative, less ideal way. Right Lane Exit Only is still permitted verbiage in the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 10:49:10 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8386411,-78.6759832,3a,15y,325.74h,84.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJvCJRIEeeBgFNjY3cEn1Cw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign has been like this for a very long time and still HAS NOT been fixed. This looks funny.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 23, 2021, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 10:49:10 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8386411,-78.6759832,3a,15y,325.74h,84.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJvCJRIEeeBgFNjY3cEn1Cw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign has been like this for a very long time and still HAS NOT been fixed. This looks funny.

Appears to be some crude attempt to sign the stop line. Odd indeed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 22, 2021, 09:13:35 PM

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.599026,-82.5352417,3a,37.7y,117.85h,87.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbKNy8AazZsYieM3siBh7eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) should have an overhead sign saying "EXIT ONLY". I'm guessing that's the old fashioned way of pointing at the exit lane.

It's not really old fashioned, as much as it's more just an alternative, less ideal way. Right Lane Exit Only is still permitted verbiage in the MUTCD.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/MUTCD_W9-7R.svg/242px-MUTCD_W9-7R.svg.png)

tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 22, 2021, 09:13:35 PM

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 22, 2021, 08:22:21 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.599026,-82.5352417,3a,37.7y,117.85h,87.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbKNy8AazZsYieM3siBh7eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) should have an overhead sign saying "EXIT ONLY". I'm guessing that's the old fashioned way of pointing at the exit lane.

It's not really old fashioned, as much as it's more just an alternative, less ideal way. Right Lane Exit Only is still permitted verbiage in the MUTCD.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/MUTCD_W9-7R.svg/242px-MUTCD_W9-7R.svg.png)

tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm
So they don't have to waste money on a gantry, huh? Also, US-64 in Rocky Mount lacks a lot of those.

And does any state do this (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7616991,-96.8087242,3a,18.7y,213.17h,103.26t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_lg2wZ6ZizGz-Mh2Ln6Nvg!2e0!5s20200201T000000!7i16384!8i8192) like put the hospital sign on the overhead sign? I don't like it, I like if they are to the side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Another old school sign!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7786493,-77.5827599,3a,15y,319.25h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shRvy2hEtDbtHCRbhIR2FIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
^^ That is one of three acceptable keep right sight signs in the current MUTCD.  Thought the wordless pictorial one is most commonly used.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 24, 2021, 01:39:35 AM
I'm guessing the newer stop signs have a more straight letter S compared to the old ones which look more like a 5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MASTERNC on July 24, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
How about a curve sign that depicts a dog?

(https://i.ibb.co/k6RDGCJ/IMG-0554.png) (https://ibb.co/7NwpSmQ)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 25, 2021, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on July 24, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
How about a curve sign that depicts a dog?

(https://i.ibb.co/k6RDGCJ/IMG-0554.png) (https://ibb.co/7NwpSmQ)

A dog named Arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 25, 2021, 11:51:30 AM
Quote from: plain on July 25, 2021, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on July 24, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
How about a curve sign that depicts a dog?

(https://i.ibb.co/k6RDGCJ/IMG-0554.png) (https://ibb.co/7NwpSmQ)

A dog named Arrow.

I can't unsee that. :D

Curious font on this Massachusetts Route 96 sign near MA 16:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51313791548_d67a69b88e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbqAtW)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on July 25, 2021, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 25, 2021, 11:51:30 AM
I can't unsee that. :D

Curious font on this Massachusetts Route 96 sign near MA 16:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51313791548_d67a69b88e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbqAtW)

Reminds me of the font found on older signs in Maine.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 25, 2021, 02:02:50 PM
Quote from: plain on July 25, 2021, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on July 24, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
How about a curve sign that depicts a dog?

(https://i.ibb.co/k6RDGCJ/IMG-0554.png) (https://ibb.co/7NwpSmQ)

A dog named Arrow.

Well, it IS a double dog leg...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 25, 2021, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 25, 2021, 11:51:30 AM
Curious font on this Massachusetts Route 96 sign near MA 16:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51313791548_d67a69b88e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbqAtW)

Depending on who you ask, that may be classified as a "Best of" sign. That definitely looks like an older font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 25, 2021, 02:47:57 PM
No room for a space on line 3?  Add an extra one on line 5!

Temporary sign that was up for about a month during a truck detour during the ongoing reconstruction of New York 30 over the Mohawk River in Amsterdam.  Taken June 21, 2021.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20210621/bridgelane.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 25, 2021, 05:08:46 PM
^^ Ad shouldn't it be white?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 25, 2021, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on July 25, 2021, 02:02:50 PM
Quote from: plain on July 25, 2021, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on July 24, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
How about a curve sign that depicts a dog?

A dog named Arrow.

Well, it IS a double dog leg...

I thought it was a Pointer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 25, 2021, 05:08:46 PM
^^ Ad shouldn't it be white?
Or put a height restriction sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Another old school sign!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7786493,-77.5827599,3a,15y,319.25h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shRvy2hEtDbtHCRbhIR2FIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Quote from: Big John on July 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
^^ That is one of three acceptable keep right sight signs in the current MUTCD.

tolbs17:  Decided to still not look at the MUTCD before posting, huh?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:23:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Another old school sign!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7786493,-77.5827599,3a,15y,319.25h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shRvy2hEtDbtHCRbhIR2FIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Quote from: Big John on July 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
^^ That is one of three acceptable keep right sight signs in the current MUTCD.

tolbs17:  Decided to still not look at the MUTCD before posting, huh?
Oh, I saw it. That was installed between 2002 and 2005 or they used the old sign when that intersection was realigned. That intersection used to be a Y where it would split off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:33:38 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 06:24:23 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:23:13 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Another old school sign!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7786493,-77.5827599,3a,15y,319.25h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shRvy2hEtDbtHCRbhIR2FIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Quote from: Big John on July 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
^^ That is one of three acceptable keep right sight signs in the current MUTCD.

tolbs17:  Decided to still not look at the MUTCD before posting, huh?
Oh, I saw it. That was installed between 2002 and 2005 or they used the old sign when that intersection was realigned. That intersection used to be a Y where it would split off.

My point is that you called it an "old school sign", yet it's in the current edition of the MUTCD.

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig2b_10.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:33:38 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 06:24:23 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:23:13 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Another old school sign!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7786493,-77.5827599,3a,15y,319.25h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shRvy2hEtDbtHCRbhIR2FIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Quote from: Big John on July 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
^^ That is one of three acceptable keep right sight signs in the current MUTCD.

tolbs17:  Decided to still not look at the MUTCD before posting, huh?
Oh, I saw it. That was installed between 2002 and 2005 or they used the old sign when that intersection was realigned. That intersection used to be a Y where it would split off.

My point is that you called it an "old school sign", yet it's in the current edition of the MUTCD.

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig2b_10.gif)
http://www.andrewturnbull.net/signs-r.html

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.andrewturnbull.net%2Fsigns%2Fkeepright1.png&hash=e9e921e92afb6d7f0ac193378d4b599dc9874a1e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 25, 2021, 06:36:56 PM
I would expect an old school sign to be near a school or former school.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: renegade on July 16, 2021, 10:07:29 PM
Different color.  Is it good, bad, or ugly?
But seems like DelDOT seems to like the old fashioned signs so they installed the old yellow-orange type.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6493732,-75.7477587,3a,25.8y,15.41h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQxYziZgWCpGw1ViLWxRsWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Edit: there's more!

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7766977,-75.5963465,3a,32.3y,19.5h,87.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sImSrNIuuHOxX19IZFOuB7w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 25, 2021, 10:38:49 PM
Not something I recall seeing anywhere else:

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20210704/beginfortmyers.jpg)

This is on Florida 82 West on July 4, 2021.  A little before, I saw a similar "End" sign but didn't get a picture.  I think a "Leaving" and "Entering" would be more clear.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2021, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Jim on July 25, 2021, 10:38:49 PM
Not something I recall seeing anywhere else:

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20210704/beginfortmyers.jpg)

This is on Florida 82 West on July 4, 2021.  A little before, I saw a similar "End" sign but didn't get a picture.  I think a "Leaving" and "Entering" would be more clear.

I always found "Leaving" and "Entering" odd.  Its because the sign says xxxxx city, City Limits.  The "Entering" says you are entering the city limits, when in reality you are entering the city, not the limits.  The city limits is a line around the city, so it is just a line where the city stops.  You can't enter a line, as geometry taught us. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 26, 2021, 11:03:23 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2021, 10:26:56 AMI always found "Leaving" and "Entering" odd.  Its because the sign says xxxxx city, City Limits.  The "Entering" says you are entering the city limits, when in reality you are entering the city, not the limits.  The city limits is a line around the city, so it is just a line where the city stops.  You can't enter a line, as geometry taught us.

I'm not aware of any states that currently combine the verb with a line (as opposed to a polygon) description on their standard jurisdictional limit signs.  I also think there has been a movement away from using verbs in general.  Kansas, for example, used to have county line signs of the form "Entering Johnson County/Leaving Miami County," but now the standard format is "Johnson County Line" ("County Line" receiving the small caps treatment, and only the jurisdiction being entered being shown on the sign even though the line being crossed also delimits the one being left).  Among the states that still use verbs, I think the gerund form ("Entering") predominates, although Virginia uses the active/imperative form ("Enter").

It gets kind of trippy when you cross a state line on a highway next to a railroad and the highway sign has the name of the state you are entering while the railroad monument has the name of the state you are leaving (the apparent convention among railroads is to place a locality's name on the side that belongs to that locality).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 26, 2021, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: renegade on July 16, 2021, 10:07:29 PM
Different color.  Is it good, bad, or ugly?
But seems like DelDOT seems to like the old fashioned signs so they installed the old yellow-orange type.

The standard color of warning signs for pedestrian/bicycle traffic & crossings is standard yellow. The MUTCD provides the option for agencies to use fluorescent yellow-green background color for these signs instead, and many agencies have made this option a (somewhat) standard practice.

As of the 2009 MUTCD, the only signs required to use the fluorescent yellow-green color are school zone signs. Even then, such signs using regular yellow installed before this standard was adopted may remain in use until the end of their useful service life.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on July 26, 2021, 01:39:01 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 25, 2021, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 25, 2021, 11:51:30 AM
Curious font on this Massachusetts Route 96 sign near MA 16:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51313791548_d67a69b88e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbqAtW)

Depending on who you ask, that may be classified as a "Best of" sign. That definitely looks like an older font.

Before Massachusetts started using the FHWA fonts, they had their own font, and this is a good example.  It was definitely different than the Maine LeHay font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 27, 2021, 10:46:35 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 06:36:32 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:33:38 PM

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 25, 2021, 06:24:23 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2021, 06:23:13 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 23, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
tolbs17:  https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/html_index.htm

Quote from: tolbs17 on July 23, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
Another old school sign!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7786493,-77.5827599,3a,15y,319.25h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shRvy2hEtDbtHCRbhIR2FIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Quote from: Big John on July 23, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
^^ That is one of three acceptable keep right sight signs in the current MUTCD.

tolbs17:  Decided to still not look at the MUTCD before posting, huh?

Oh, I saw it. That was installed between 2002 and 2005 or they used the old sign when that intersection was realigned. That intersection used to be a Y where it would split off.

My point is that you called it an "old school sign", yet it's in the current edition of the MUTCD.

(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig2b_10.gif)

http://www.andrewturnbull.net/signs-r.html

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.andrewturnbull.net%2Fsigns%2Fkeepright1.png&hash=e9e921e92afb6d7f0ac193378d4b599dc9874a1e)


By that argument, standard speed limit signs are "old school" as well, because the two have the same date on that webpage.  And stop signs are dinosaurs, because they predate both by seven years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 27, 2021, 11:42:23 PM
This one hasn't stood for over 7 years, but I only just noticed on this old Street View that the gantry post on the left is literally rusting away. There's actual gaps in one of the posts. You can see in the next (future) view, the gantry is gone. Kinda scary this is!

I-290 and I-90/I-94 in Chicago, IL
https://goo.gl/maps/pyTipj9RbXQTK66g8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 28, 2021, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 27, 2021, 11:42:23 PM
This one hasn't stood for over 7 years, but I only just noticed on this old Street View that the gantry post on the left is literally rusting away. There's actual gaps in one of the posts. You can see in the next (future) view, the gantry is gone. Kinda scary this is!

I-290 and I-90/I-94 in Chicago, IL
https://goo.gl/maps/pyTipj9RbXQTK66g8

That's really scary! Looking through older street views, it looks like it got that way in less than a year...although that forward post appears to have been rusty or corroded for quite a while before that. I don't think steel poles used in overhead traffic signs should rust away like that, and I'd assume there was a manufacturing defect or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 28, 2021, 06:16:31 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/zHzb1QoooUtmuZyG8

A very short concurrency along US 322 in Williamstown, NJ suggested by the signage. Because of the reverse jug handle this anomaly only exists here.  NJ 42 officially starts at the intersection, but US 322 turns left here but has to use part of NJ 42 to accomplish it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 30, 2021, 04:54:50 PM
Not just mounted low, but also not quite pattern-accurate.  A local job?
https://goo.gl/maps/aJHWjLjYMVStGq6f9

And more!
https://goo.gl/maps/AesSdodbg8cDnfL2A
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on July 26, 2021, 01:39:01 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on July 25, 2021, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 25, 2021, 11:51:30 AM
Curious font on this Massachusetts Route 96 sign near MA 16:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51313791548_d67a69b88e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbqAtW)

Depending on who you ask, that may be classified as a "Best of" sign. That definitely looks like an older font.

Before Massachusetts started using the FHWA fonts, they had their own font, and this is a good example.  It was definitely different than the Maine LeHay font.

I wasn't quite sure; it didn't look like an old sign, and didn't seem to match the font for the limited number of old DPW (?) signs I saw online.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on July 30, 2021, 09:22:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 30, 2021, 04:54:50 PM
Not just mounted low, but also not quite pattern-accurate.  A local job?
https://goo.gl/maps/aJHWjLjYMVStGq6f9

And more!
https://goo.gl/maps/AesSdodbg8cDnfL2A

Those signs match a lot of what you see all around O'Hare. I'm not entirely sure who maintains those. It's probably not CDOT, because CDOT signs generally use the correct fonts at the very least. Des Plaines has some issues with signs, but the issues with O'Hare signage doesn't match. Not to mention, Des Plaines doesn't have jurisdiction over O'Hare, Chicago does. So I'm guessing it's some type of O'Hare internal DOT who installed those.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 30, 2021, 09:56:12 PM
I like this street sign in Seaview, WA.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Bimg%2520width%3D500%2520height%3D333%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Flive.staticflickr.com%2F65535%2F51347098309_cc600ccd05.jpg&hash=45d65aa0000acd1c33d61b261ca109be516efaac)[/img](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51347098309_cc600ccd05.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 01, 2021, 12:07:49 AM
Quote from: plain on July 25, 2021, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: MASTERNC on July 24, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
How about a curve sign that depicts a dog?

(https://i.ibb.co/k6RDGCJ/IMG-0554.png) (https://ibb.co/7NwpSmQ)

A dog named Arrow.
:spin: :biggrin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJ-WY4J4KI


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 01, 2021, 01:08:29 AM
A bit of a cryptic sign near Mount St. Helens on WA-503:

(https://i.imgur.com/T2AKoJf.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on August 01, 2021, 04:11:52 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 01, 2021, 01:08:29 AM
A bit of a cryptic sign near Mount St. Helens on WA-503:

(https://i.imgur.com/T2AKoJf.jpg)

It's cryptic, but I'm not sure how better they could've worded it without being too verbose for a road sign. Any reasonable fisherman should understand what that means.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 01, 2021, 04:14:46 PM
I had to google "bull trout" to learn that they're an endangered species, and you're not supposed to keep one if you catch it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 01, 2021, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 01, 2021, 01:08:29 AM
A bit of a cryptic sign near Mount St. Helens on WA-503:

(https://i.imgur.com/T2AKoJf.jpg)

This is the sort of sign where the people at whom it is directed will know what it means and other people need not be concerned about it. Some signs directed at truckers or hazmat carriers are similar in that respect. Sure, some people will wonder what it means, but for the overwhelming majority of them it won't matter if they don't figure it out–and, as hbelkins notes, anyone who really cares can do a search (preferably not while driving).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on August 01, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
Pretty self-explanatory. I think these appeared within the past couple of days.

(https://i.imgur.com/KL4wG9n.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FwE4Hn6.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 01, 2021, 07:52:14 PM
What is that I don't even ...

I'm actually really intrigued as to how something like that would happen. The shape is standard enough, but what would make them color it like that? Did the plans show it exactly like this? Or did the plan show Interstate shields, and they just painted the US Route shield in the same pattern / color scheme?

Just odd. But wicked cool. Glad you got a picture before it is ultimately removed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 01, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2021, 07:52:14 PM
What is that I don't even ...

I'm actually really intrigued as to how something like that would happen. The shape is standard enough, but what would make them color it like that? Did the plans show it exactly like this? Or did the plan show Interstate shields, and they just painted this shield in the same style?

Just odd. But wicked cool. Glad you got a picture before it is ultimately removed.

It's the shape that's incorrect, not the color.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 01, 2021, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 01, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
It's the shape that's incorrect, not the color.

Did I say otherwise? Besides, the designation is not relevant. What they painted is not a real shield. It's a combination of two different shields. How did that happen? Did the plans call for this? Or did they wing it with the materials they had?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 01, 2021, 08:31:45 PM
My guess is something like this happened.
"Shit, Murph, I just messed up."
"what'd ya do this time clark"
"So you know how we're painting these shields on the pavement?"
"yeah"
"Well, I decided to do all the outlines first and put the numbers in afterward. Makes sense to do that way, ya know?"
"kay"
"So I did the outlines for the two US-19s first. Then. Uh. I kind of kept going."
"so"
"So...I kind of have all these US route outlines painted. And some of them are supposed to be interstates. And the boss is gonna be back for lunch before I can grind them off and redo them..."
"easy clark i got this under control"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 01, 2021, 08:34:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 01, 2021, 07:56:47 PM
Quote from: 1 on August 01, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
It's the shape that's incorrect, not the color.

Did I say otherwise? Besides, the designation is not relevant. What they painted is not a real shield. It's a combination of two different shields. How did that happen? Did the plans call for this? Or did they wing it with the materials they had?
Shields like that really do exist... on the other side of the Pacific Ocean (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5816681,126.8264958,3a,59.7y,292.94h,99.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sad2LWIZkfgYkVziUVZOnmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 01, 2021, 08:39:02 PM
The fact that they mismatched the US 19 paintings even further qualifies this for goof of the year.

Someone's into Spy Vs. Spy
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 01, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
The differences in the two US 19 markers on the pavement jump out at me even more than the wrong shield shapes for I-285. The color scheme makes those markers pretty much self-explanatory.

From the looks of that pavement, those markers are probably not long for the world. That road looks like it could use a resurfacing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 01, 2021, 10:09:27 PM
And no local calls it US 19; they refer to it as (SR) 400.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on August 01, 2021, 10:46:31 PM
That is a next-level goof. Looks like USDA-choice highways going on there. Where is that by the way?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 02, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 01, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
Pretty self-explanatory. I think these appeared within the past couple of days.

(https://i.imgur.com/KL4wG9n.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FwE4Hn6.jpeg)

This might be worthy of the actual worst of signs thread. I mean, it's definitely the result of binge drinking at the sign shop...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 02, 2021, 12:37:32 PM
But it's not actually a sign... :spin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 02, 2021, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 02, 2021, 12:37:32 PMBut it's not actually a sign... :spin:

Segnaletica verticale/orizzontale, señalización vertical/horizontal, oznakowania pionowe/poziome, . . . .
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 02, 2021, 01:20:28 PM
I don't know where else to put this, so it's going here.

If I had to put this sign in my own car, I'd only use the top one since WA law technically requires everyone to stay right, no matter how fast you are going.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51353908340_304ad8d2ef_k.jpg)
"Keep Right" sign in a back window (https://flic.kr/p/2meYcNL) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 02, 2021, 02:09:41 PM
Someone's obviously fed up with left lane hogs  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 02, 2021, 09:13:59 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51352964175/in/photostream

Everything in Oregon is a junction including.a city limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on August 02, 2021, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 02, 2021, 01:20:28 PM
I don't know where else to put this, so it's going here.

If I had to put this sign in my own car, I'd only use the top one since WA law technically requires everyone to stay right, no matter how fast you are going.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51353908340_304ad8d2ef_k.jpg)
"Keep Right" sign in a back window (https://flic.kr/p/2meYcNL) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

Someone needs to paste an I-366 shield in their back windshield like that!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on August 02, 2021, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 01, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
From the looks of that pavement, those markers are probably not long for the world. That road looks like it could use a resurfacing.

This is part of the 285-400 interchange project. 285 here was originally built with four lanes and a 64 foot median. Four more lanes and a jersey barrier were added in the median in the mid '70's, and another two lanes were crammed in immediately before the Olympics by going to eleven-foot lanes. As part of this project, the mainline will be milled and repaved to restore the '70's arrangement, with the loss in capacity there more than replaced by CD roads.

The '90s misalignment between lanes as built vs. as marked, combined with poor pavement condition, was so profound as to make parts of the corridor difficult to drive. To my pleasant amazement, part of the old pavement was milled and repaved in order to make the lanes drivable as marked. https://goo.gl/maps/XxMPzc5FaMbEgbBr8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on August 03, 2021, 05:29:11 AM
Part two, crossposted from the Georgia thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.msg2644802#msg2644802):

On Sunday afternoon, I investigated the 285-400 interchange after the latest round of ramp changes, including the opening of the mile-and-a-half-long westbound CD and offramp to Roswell  Road. The signage situation is inherently difficult but made worse by indifference to detail, such as having an unneeded trailblazer block the view of the undersized 3/4 mile sign for the Peachtree Dunwoody Road exit.

The current configuration crams three offramps to four destinations right on top of each other, as this GDOT masterpiece demonstrates:
(https://i.imgur.com/SEIvfEu.jpg)


This one went up a couple of weeks ago, when the 400 offramps were reconfigured but before the new Roswell Road exit was opened, with the Roswell Road exit being 1 3/4 miles out instead of 1/2. As wordy as it is, it would've been a good idea to eliminate the useless NEXT 4 EXITS tab, especially since this is an overlay on a sign for three destinations (https://goo.gl/maps/7kuidnujZasQeCDQ9). But noooo. As it stands, though, it's essentially moot: the scene there is so chaotic that I missed it on my first pass even knowing it was there! That said, maybe it'll be useful in slow-moving rush hour traffic.

This master-blaster overhead is unfortunately located just beyond and is obstructed by the Perimeter Center Parkway bridge, which impedes the already-difficult task of interpreting it. It also introduces exits 27A and 27B, replacing exit 27 for both directions.
(https://i.imgur.com/QOycq74.jpg)


To me, the most objectionable aspect of this assembly is the unfortunate placement of the new EXIT ONLY arrow for the Roswell Road-400 south exit. The new offramp leaves 285 as a single lane, then widens to two lanes before splitting. I think it would've been possible to stripe the offramp for two lanes with and option lane and thereby provide two arrows, one white and one black, one for each destination, with each directly over the appropriate lanes instead of confusingly far off as the lone arrow is now. Yes, I know that having a white down arrow over an option lane is a no-no per the MUTCD, but this assembly's previous incarnation had one (https://goo.gl/maps/phqXidoYYYnBdenF6), so drivers would be familiar with it. That's just me, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 03, 2021, 11:00:33 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 03, 2021, 05:29:11 AM
This master-blaster overhead is unfortunately located just beyond and is obstructed by the Perimeter Center Parkway bridge, which impedes the already-difficult task of interpreting it. It also introduces exits 27A and 27B, replacing exit 27 for both directions.
(https://i.imgur.com/QOycq74.jpg)

To me, the most objectionable aspect of this assembly is the unfortunate placement of the new EXIT ONLY arrow for the Roswell Road-400 south exit. The new offramp leaves 285 as a single lane, then widens to two lanes before splitting. I think it would've been possible to stripe the offramp for two lanes with and option lane and thereby provide two arrows, one white and one black, one for each destination, with each directly over the appropriate lanes instead of confusingly far off as the lone arrow is now. Yes, I know that having a white down arrow over an option lane is a no-no per the MUTCD, but this assembly's previous incarnation had one (https://goo.gl/maps/phqXidoYYYnBdenF6), so drivers would be familiar with it. That's just me, though.

Gawd, I hope that is a temporary signage situation for construction... The exit 27 sign panel is actually overlaid on top of the exit 25 sign, and it looks incredibly sloppy. That exit only panel looks like an add-on, but it's also really sloppy if that's meant to be permanent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 03, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 02, 2021, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 01, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
From the looks of that pavement, those markers are probably not long for the world. That road looks like it could use a resurfacing.

This is part of the 285-400 interchange project. 285 here was originally built with four lanes and a 64 foot median. Four more lanes and a jersey barrier were added in the median in the mid '70's, and another two lanes were crammed in immediately before the Olympics by going to eleven-foot lanes. As part of this project, the mainline will be milled and repaved to restore the '70's arrangement, with the loss in capacity there more than replaced by CD roads.

The '90s misalignment between lanes as built vs. as marked, combined with poor pavement condition, was so profound as to make parts of the corridor difficult to drive. To my pleasant amazement, part of the old pavement was milled and repaved in order to make the lanes drivable as marked. https://goo.gl/maps/XxMPzc5FaMbEgbBr8
Spinning the view around, that "exit only" panel with an up arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9202713,-84.3290648,3a,26.2y,120.23h,89.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRbBxT49_Y0TEZ0aOEsUyQw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DRbBxT49_Y0TEZ0aOEsUyQw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D9.044259%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is kinda interesting!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 03, 2021, 08:41:54 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 03, 2021, 05:29:11 AM
This master-blaster overhead is unfortunately located just beyond and is obstructed by the Perimeter Center Parkway bridge, which impedes the already-difficult task of interpreting it. It also introduces exits 27A and 27B, replacing exit 27 for both directions.
(https://i.imgur.com/QOycq74.jpg)

I bet whoever decided those pavement shields were good enough also decided the return of Frankensign was fine. Oh, wait–they did.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 03, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
At I-105's eastern terminus in Eugene, OR. the sign bridge over the highway is interesting that it lacks a guide sign for Exit 4A.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51356097043_2f47f45a99_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 03, 2021, 11:07:10 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 03, 2021, 05:29:11 AM
Part two, crossposted from the Georgia thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.msg2644802#msg2644802):

(snip)

This master-blaster overhead is unfortunately located just beyond and is obstructed by the Perimeter Center Parkway bridge, which impedes the already-difficult task of interpreting it. It also introduces exits 27A and 27B, replacing exit 27 for both directions.
(https://i.imgur.com/QOycq74.jpg)


But everyone can now compare Georgia D and the newer FHWA Series D in mixed case side by side!  I still find Georgia D to be more legible than today's Series D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on August 04, 2021, 06:15:04 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 03, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
Spinning the view around, that "exit only" panel with an up arrow (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9202713,-84.3290648,3a,26.2y,120.23h,89.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRbBxT49_Y0TEZ0aOEsUyQw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DRbBxT49_Y0TEZ0aOEsUyQw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D9.044259%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is kinda interesting!

They're all over the place on this project. I find them easy to understand. Perhaps non-roadgeeks do, too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 04, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 03, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
At I-105's eastern terminus in Eugene, OR. the sign bridge over the highway is interesting that it lacks a guide sign for Exit 4A.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51356097043_2f47f45a99_k.jpg)

Looking at that sign bridge, it appears that there's a space where a sign used to be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on August 04, 2021, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 04, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 03, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
At I-105's eastern terminus in Eugene, OR. the sign bridge over the highway is interesting that it lacks a guide sign for Exit 4A.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51356097043_2f47f45a99_k.jpg)

Looking at that sign bridge, it appears that there's a space where a sign used to be.

Street View says it's been that way since at least 2008. The sign for Exit 4A is just before this, though. Looks like the beginning of the off-ramp might have been moved back a bit at some point.

(https://i.imgur.com/Lc5JbHW.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 04, 2021, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on August 04, 2021, 12:02:54 PM
Looks like the beginning of the off-ramp might have been moved back a bit at some point.

That is basically correct. The 105 in Eugene was widened to 3x3 (from 2x2) e/o Coburg Rd in the mid-2000s, and the exit to southbound I-5 received a dedicated exit lane. In the process, to smooth out the exit, the divergence point was moved about 400 feet west.

The old sign bridge was a bit wider than necessary on the southern side of the eastbound carriageway, so it was able to remain in place when the roadway was physically widened to allow for the dedicated exit lane. But the Southbound I-5 exit sign had to be moved upstream as the old sign bridge was well past the new exit point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MikeTheActuary on August 05, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
Found on Reddit:

(https://preview.redd.it/lhzrky7zamf71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7b4be27a66d6cacb9d76061e60b05a3ae9a99ac0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 05, 2021, 09:09:30 PM
A helpful sign at the Boeing Everett Factory's east entrance:

(https://i.imgur.com/pgXqFjJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 05, 2021, 09:11:02 PM
What's up with the stippled arrow losing its stippling just before the bend?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on August 06, 2021, 12:38:08 AM
penndot why (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.247827,-76.9303835,3a,75y,40.86h,94.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEfpGDjfP1lWQL7iGyWu7Wg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Doesn't help that this replaced a perfectly good sign seven years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 06, 2021, 01:54:20 AM
Quote from: kphoger on August 05, 2021, 09:11:02 PM
What's up with the stippled arrow losing its stippling just before the bend?

Must be some lazy manufacturing. The ramp in question (https://goo.gl/maps/GJ6JDCUDj3wnT9fT9) does remain dual lane through the whole movement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 06, 2021, 07:57:47 AM
I'm just chuffed to see something like this being retweeted by a sports blogger (@UniWatch).

https://twitter.com/KasselMedia/status/1423609921652760580
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 06, 2021, 08:15:25 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on August 04, 2021, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 04, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 03, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
At I-105's eastern terminus in Eugene, OR. the sign bridge over the highway is interesting that it lacks a guide sign for Exit 4A.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51356097043_2f47f45a99_k.jpg)

Looking at that sign bridge, it appears that there's a space where a sign used to be.

Street View says it's been that way since at least 2008. The sign for Exit 4A is just before this, though. Looks like the beginning of the off-ramp might have been moved back a bit at some point.

(https://i.imgur.com/Lc5JbHW.png)


I am aware. I took a picture of both assemblies.  I still think it's odd that they removed the actual diverge and didn't use both.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on August 06, 2021, 11:18:52 AM
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on August 05, 2021, 07:40:46 PM
Found on Reddit:

(https://preview.redd.it/lhzrky7zamf71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7b4be27a66d6cacb9d76061e60b05a3ae9a99ac0)


Wondering if that's in honor of this weekend's Nashville Grand Prix. Rinus Veekay is one of the IndyCar drivers.

Very clever sign if that's what it is -- looks like a legit standard speed limit sign, other than the 240! I think I see another sign in back which might indicate the usual speed limit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 06, 2021, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on August 04, 2021, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on August 04, 2021, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 03, 2021, 09:30:08 PM
At I-105's eastern terminus in Eugene, OR. the sign bridge over the highway is interesting that it lacks a guide sign for Exit 4A.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51356097043_2f47f45a99_k.jpg)

Looking at that sign bridge, it appears that there's a space where a sign used to be.

Street View says it's been that way since at least 2008. The sign for Exit 4A is just before this, though. Looks like the beginning of the off-ramp might have been moved back a bit at some point.

(https://i.imgur.com/Lc5JbHW.png)

Similar on northbound M-10 at I-94 in Detroit.  The sign for exit 4A (eastbound I-94) was removed from the gantry and replaced upstream.  No realignment; the original placement was just too far downstream.
https://goo.gl/maps/oTYqeoRSHVQgxcyb9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on August 06, 2021, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 01, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
Pretty self-explanatory. I think these appeared within the past couple of days.

(https://i.imgur.com/KL4wG9n.jpeg)

....

The upside-down "8" there just makes it that much better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 06, 2021, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on August 06, 2021, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 01, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
Pretty self-explanatory. I think these appeared within the past couple of days.

(https://i.imgur.com/KL4wG9n.jpeg)

....

The upside-down "8" there just makes it that much better.

Oh my god, it gets worse and worse. It's baffling, really.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on August 08, 2021, 03:22:23 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on August 03, 2021, 05:29:11 AM
This master-blaster overhead is unfortunately located just beyond and is obstructed by the Perimeter Center Parkway bridge, which impedes the already-difficult task of interpreting it. It also introduces exits 27A and 27B, replacing exit 27 for both directions.
(https://i.imgur.com/QOycq74.jpg)
Wait, so there are non-colored-in "US" 285 pavement shields in addition to the red-and-blue ones? This just keeps getting more bizarre.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 08, 2021, 05:05:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/32196297653/
A button copy Truck Route sign in Miami, OK.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/32196297653/)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2252/32196297653_639b5c2fd7_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

"TrailTrail Crossing"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on August 08, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
"TrailTrail Crossing"

How funny.  But, in some states, the presence of flashing light signals (FLS) on the former railroad crossing may still require school buses and hazmat trucks to stop and look both ways.  The presence of the "Trail Crossing" sign certainly creates a legal justification to avoid stopping there (except in states where pedestrians have the right-of-way at marked crosswalks).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 08, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

Except that, near as I can tell, there doesn't seem to be any sort of detection or button activation in use, and thus not an active warning mechanism. So this appears to be a case of leaving the old rail crossing infrastructure up, changing part of the crossbuck sign, and installing pedestrian crossing signs at substandard height.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 08, 2021, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on August 08, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
"TrailTrail Crossing"

How funny.  But, in some states, the presence of flashing light signals (FLS) on the former railroad crossing may still require school buses and hazmat trucks to stop and look both ways.  The presence of the "Trail Crossing" sign certainly creates a legal justification to avoid stopping there (except in states where pedestrians have the right-of-way at marked crosswalks).

This is certainly unique, but I don't find it amusing.  Drivers react differently to a trail crossing than to a rail crossing.  This could actually be dangerous to the pedestrians and bicyclists crossing.

The R/R shuck should be removed.  The R/R lights should be replaced either with nothing, a flahsing yellow beacon, or some type of ped crossing signal if warranted.  The RXR should also be fully removed from the pavement.  To the extent they can make this more conventional, yet still recycle the existing equipment for the RR crossing, kudos.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 08, 2021, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on August 08, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
"TrailTrail Crossing"

How funny.  But, in some states, the presence of flashing light signals (FLS) on the former railroad crossing may still require school buses and hazmat trucks to stop and look both ways.  The presence of the "Trail Crossing" sign certainly creates a legal justification to avoid stopping there (except in states where pedestrians have the right-of-way at marked crosswalks).

This is certainly unique, but I don't find it amusing.  Drivers react differently to a trail crossing than to a rail crossing.  This could actually be dangerous to the pedestrians and bicyclists crossing.

The R/R shuck should be removed.  The R/R lights should be replaced either with nothing, a flahsing yellow beacon, or some type of ped crossing signal if warranted.  The RXR should also be fully removed from the pavement.  To the extent they can make this more conventional, yet still recycle the existing equipment for the RR crossing, kudos.

I would also like to note that the pedestrian warning sign is misplaced. The arrow points to a location on the roadway that is a few feet behind the marked crosswalk, where pedestrians will be crossing. I'm guessing that this may confuse a few drivers as to where the actual crossing is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 09, 2021, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 08, 2021, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on August 08, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
"TrailTrail Crossing"

How funny.  But, in some states, the presence of flashing light signals (FLS) on the former railroad crossing may still require school buses and hazmat trucks to stop and look both ways.  The presence of the "Trail Crossing" sign certainly creates a legal justification to avoid stopping there (except in states where pedestrians have the right-of-way at marked crosswalks).

This is certainly unique, but I don't find it amusing.  Drivers react differently to a trail crossing than to a rail crossing.  This could actually be dangerous to the pedestrians and bicyclists crossing.

The R/R shuck should be removed.  The R/R lights should be replaced either with nothing, a flahsing yellow beacon, or some type of ped crossing signal if warranted.  The RXR should also be fully removed from the pavement.  To the extent they can make this more conventional, yet still recycle the existing equipment for the RR crossing, kudos.

I would also like to note that the pedestrian warning sign is misplaced. The arrow points to a location on the roadway that is a few feet behind the marked crosswalk, where pedestrians will be crossing. I'm guessing that this may confuse a few drivers as to where the actual crossing is.

It's a diagonal crossing... The arrow is a few feet behind the upstream end of the crosswalk on the opposite side of the street, while it's probably roughly 20 feet in front of the upstream end of the crosswalk on the same side of the street. In the grand scheme, with upstream warning signs and lines on the pavement, I don't really think anyone is going to be confused by where the crossing is. I think they'd be more confused by whether it's a pedestrian crossing or a train crossing, and thus they need to rethink the "trail trail crossing" signage and remove the railroad lighting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 09, 2021, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 09, 2021, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 08, 2021, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on August 08, 2021, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8

Quote from: interstatefan990 on August 08, 2021, 03:09:28 PM
"TrailTrail Crossing"

How funny.  But, in some states, the presence of flashing light signals (FLS) on the former railroad crossing may still require school buses and hazmat trucks to stop and look both ways.  The presence of the "Trail Crossing" sign certainly creates a legal justification to avoid stopping there (except in states where pedestrians have the right-of-way at marked crosswalks).

This is certainly unique, but I don't find it amusing.  Drivers react differently to a trail crossing than to a rail crossing.  This could actually be dangerous to the pedestrians and bicyclists crossing.

The R/R shuck should be removed.  The R/R lights should be replaced either with nothing, a flahsing yellow beacon, or some type of ped crossing signal if warranted.  The RXR should also be fully removed from the pavement.  To the extent they can make this more conventional, yet still recycle the existing equipment for the RR crossing, kudos.

I would also like to note that the pedestrian warning sign is misplaced. The arrow points to a location on the roadway that is a few feet behind the marked crosswalk, where pedestrians will be crossing. I'm guessing that this may confuse a few drivers as to where the actual crossing is.

It's a diagonal crossing... The arrow is a few feet behind the upstream end of the crosswalk on the opposite side of the street, while it's probably roughly 20 feet in front of the upstream end of the crosswalk on the same side of the street. In the grand scheme, with upstream warning signs and lines on the pavement, I don't really think anyone is going to be confused by where the crossing is. I think they'd be more confused by whether it's a pedestrian crossing or a train crossing, and thus they need to rethink the "trail trail crossing" signage and remove the railroad lighting.

I like it.  If it causes motorists to be more cautious at this crossing because they think it's a railroad crossing, then why not.  You can do that in a sleepy town like Butte.  It's like the type of town where someone pulls over on the side of the road to paint, as seen 180 degrees from this crossing picture. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 14, 2021, 09:28:08 PM
National Park Service mileposts signs- is there a difference between when a multi-colored milepost sign is used, like this one along Old Mine Road in NJ: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0595228,-74.9948394,3a,15y,79.59h,93.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYUVmB0ymxUGf2UktmZZZsQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 vs. a bi-color one along US 209 in PA: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0992094,-74.9936792,3a,15y,101.72h,80.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-ILJfQlgEOYaHpkpZjp9gA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 ?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 15, 2021, 03:07:05 PM
Something I've only seen twice (as they're non-standard here in Québec) but I wouldn't mind seeing more of: DÉTOUR - FIN signs, as an equivalent to MUTCD's "END DETOUR" signs.

(https://i.imgur.com/QfY1r6H.jpg)

(Original size (https://i.imgur.com/QfY1r6H.jpg))

Apologies for the mediocre picture quality, as I was (and still am currently) in a city bus.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on August 15, 2021, 04:27:23 PM
While tracing the old route of NY 34 in Ithaca in Street View, I switched to an older date to get a better look at the reference markers, and I came across this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4589707,-76.4965844,3a,15y,19.63h,91.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2Funw7LPXhowILXHGaifNA!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) State Law sign which I thought was white but washed out from the sun.  Something looked off so I took a closer look, and it turns out that it's actually fluorescent yellow-green!  I found another one (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4609413,-76.4974173,3a,26.1y,179.38h,84.64t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svkClETdy_kEWbet_fwnWhg!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) further down the street.  Across the street (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4606664,-76.4972723,3a,15y,1.82h,88.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGE-0Xeh1flXsc-8vt3i6qA!2e0!5s20131001T000000!7i13312!8i6656) from the second one, there is a normal State Law sign.  Both fluorescent yellow-green signs have now been replaced with School Crossing signs (northbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.458941,-76.4965216,3a,15.6y,7.66h,91.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9Qf40j2UW5KtwQ6qFV0XBA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4609228,-76.4974053,3a,40.7y,177.72h,88.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdvJKizzwpbN5LL1i7Hsf6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192))  Even though the State Law signs should have been white, I think it's kind of neat that they were fluorescent yellow-green because they were in a school zone (at least I'm assuming that's the reason they were that color).

Keeping on the topic of school signs, I saw this sign on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/oyydbb/a_speed_limit_sign_posted_in_a_school_zone_in/) recently:
(https://preview.redd.it/op20470nnnf71.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=3a97b4a7f02e0bf24bd580f6fbc7c82216086cf8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 15, 2021, 05:18:05 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 15, 2021, 04:27:23 PM
Keeping on the topic of school signs, I saw this sign on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/oyydbb/a_speed_limit_sign_posted_in_a_school_zone_in/) recently:
(https://preview.redd.it/op20470nnnf71.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=3a97b4a7f02e0bf24bd580f6fbc7c82216086cf8)

I'm guessing that the times are meant to address several adjacent schools (elementary, middle & high schools, for example). But how the heck is anyone supposed to read that? They should have gone with one of two options: (1) list times of 6:45-8:45am & 1:45-4:20pm, or (2) installed a flasher.

Also, 35 is a bit high for a school zone. I'm guessing this is along some sort of major highway...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 15, 2021, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 15, 2021, 05:18:05 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 15, 2021, 04:27:23 PM
Keeping on the topic of school signs, I saw this sign on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/oyydbb/a_speed_limit_sign_posted_in_a_school_zone_in/) recently:
(https://preview.redd.it/op20470nnnf71.jpg?width=576&auto=webp&s=3a97b4a7f02e0bf24bd580f6fbc7c82216086cf8)

I'm guessing that the times are meant to address several adjacent schools (elementary, middle & high schools, for example). But how the heck is anyone supposed to read that? They should have gone with one of two options: (1) list times of 6:45-8:45am & 1:45-4:20pm, or (2) installed a flasher.

Also, 35 is a bit high for a school zone. I'm guessing this is along some sort of major highway...?

No shit!! This sign is just causing confusion. I wouldn't be surprised if people slow down during the times they don't have to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 06:48:57 PM
I suspect, given that some of the times are duplicated and run consecutively to one another, that the sign is Photoshopped. I'm a little skeptical that an engineer wouldn't condense the first three lines to "6:45-8:45 AM".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 15, 2021, 06:52:47 PM
^^ Engineers did not pick out that sign.  Mostly city politicians who set the times.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 10:34:59 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 15, 2021, 06:52:47 PM
^^ Engineers did not pick out that sign.  Mostly city politicians who set the times.

Well, yeah, but I doubt the mayor popped open SignCAD on his computer at his desk in City Hall and sent the resulting file to the sign shop without anyone else being allowed to look at it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 16, 2021, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 15, 2021, 06:48:57 PM
I suspect, given that some of the times are duplicated and run consecutively to one another, that the sign is Photoshopped. I'm a little skeptical that an engineer wouldn't condense the first three lines to "6:45-8:45 AM".

Yeah, you're probably right.

Looking at it again, it seems like a wider font like series E or F might have been used here, which is a bit more uncommon for a regulatory sign placard application (although I'm not a font expert).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
Kill it!! (https://goo.gl/maps/PqGBiq6jz3Zc2yce8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 16, 2021, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
Kill it!! (https://goo.gl/maps/PqGBiq6jz3Zc2yce8)

Why? It's just an interstate shield with Series B. I've seen way worse.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 16, 2021, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
Kill it!! (https://goo.gl/maps/PqGBiq6jz3Zc2yce8)

Why? It's just an interstate shield with Series B. I've seen way worse.

I have too.  It's still gross.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on August 16, 2021, 05:30:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
Kill it!! (https://goo.gl/maps/PqGBiq6jz3Zc2yce8)
Oh no!

Anyway, last week...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SkyPesos on August 17, 2021, 09:40:06 AM
Tiny numbers
(https://i.imgur.com/g9SKwTl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 17, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
I never saw a sign like this before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51384368827_61f6f71d1c_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 17, 2021, 06:52:31 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 17, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
I never saw a sign like this before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51384368827_61f6f71d1c_z.jpg)

That... is quite a silly and unnecessary sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on August 17, 2021, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
Kill it!! (https://goo.gl/maps/PqGBiq6jz3Zc2yce8)

What in the gods name is that font
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 17, 2021, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: plain on August 17, 2021, 06:52:31 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 17, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
I never saw a sign like this before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51384368827_61f6f71d1c_z.jpg)

That... is quite a silly and unnecessary sign.

Both ends of the 205 have similar signage: https://goo.gl/maps/yS96bZx73DeJUXcG6

I suspect the point of the sign is to indicate to drivers that the movement onto 205 southbound, which is ostensibly a "left turn" maneuver (south to southeast), does require taking a right-hand exit to reach. That should seem obvious enough, since most exits are on the right, including every exit on I-5 in this area, but it certainly doesn't hurt and helps to visualize the maneuver a bit beforehand.

I would honestly be fine with more signs like this.

The north end of I-5 in WA, near Blaine, has a similar sign showing the two closest border crossings: https://goo.gl/maps/1r6ijvcpsugYmDxy7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on August 17, 2021, 07:16:13 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on August 17, 2021, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 16, 2021, 12:22:41 PM
Kill it!! (https://goo.gl/maps/PqGBiq6jz3Zc2yce8)

What in the gods name is that font
Series B, Highway Gothic. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Gothic#Samples) I find this shield pretty strange (honestly, I find it somewhat pleasant-looking, but this shouldn't become a trend) for Houston, which I think usually uses Series D. And of course, in the typical Houston style, it's a 2di shield for a 3di.  :banghead:

For the more experienced members here, what states use (or have used) Series B the most? I don't think Texas usually does.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 17, 2021, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on August 17, 2021, 07:16:13 PM
For the more experienced members here, what states use (or have used) Series B the most? I don't think Texas usually does.

The Oklahoma three-digit state highway shield specifies Series B in its standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SkyPesos on August 17, 2021, 10:20:10 PM
Ohio went from Series D, to Series B sometime in the late 2000s and early 2010s, to Series C since (I think) 2015 for 3di font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jac_00b on August 17, 2021, 10:42:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/alXUuci.png)
This ugly Maximum 40 sign in High Level, Alberta. Someone used impact font it looks like.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on August 18, 2021, 07:56:29 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on August 17, 2021, 09:40:06 AM
Tiny numbers
(https://i.imgur.com/g9SKwTl.jpg)

Is that the one on I-65 in Indiana?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 18, 2021, 10:49:05 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 17, 2021, 06:28:44 PM
I never saw a sign like this before.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51384368827_61f6f71d1c_z.jpg)


Decently common in Mexico.  Here is the one (https://goo.gl/maps/hVmvwY5cZ1VBkZyS6) I'm most familiar with, but there are plenty of others down there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 23, 2021, 10:40:14 AM
Speed Electrically Timed on PA 534 between I-80 and Hickory Run State Park.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51397590243_344e9b7422_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2miQ5V2)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 6a on August 23, 2021, 07:50:55 PM
Urbana, Ohio. Guess they wanted to match the stop sign on the other side.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210823/21e2ae7c823ef42059c491417b77e4e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 24, 2021, 04:32:02 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/dUmLhfEcDDfQEW4W8
U And Left Turns is posted for the ramp to NJ 23 South. However there is no left turns on Route 23 back the opposite way. The sign is to guide those from NJ 23 North back to NJ 23 south who would also use this particular ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2021, 12:38:13 AM
Wasn't there a thread for flashing lights outlining signs?  Anyway, I finally went past this one at dusk.  This sign replaced one showing a sharp curve, even though it isn't.  It has to crest over a water pipeline and it has low visibility, so the engineers thought lying about the road geometry was better than a sign that spelled out "limited vision distance."  The sign facing the other direction shows a different intersection configuration. (https://goo.gl/maps/ifC6LP5pk7qK6GJ87)  Whatever.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51401173033_bf3904a7a8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mj9rXg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 25, 2021, 12:47:30 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on August 25, 2021, 12:38:13 AM
Wasn't there a thread for flashing lights outlining signs?  Anyway, I finally went past this one at dusk.  This sign replaced one showing a sharp curve, even though it isn't.  It has to crest over a water pipeline and it has low visibility, so the engineers thought lying about the road geometry was better than a sign that spelled out "limited vision distance."  The sign facing the other direction shows a different intersection configuration. (https://goo.gl/maps/ifC6LP5pk7qK6GJ87)  Whatever.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51401173033_bf3904a7a8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mj9rXg)
Looks like each sign just warns about whatever intersection is beyond the hump in each direction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(https://i.imgur.com/xfxjOFy.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 25, 2021, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PMA map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(Photo snipped for brevity)

Thanks for this--it's going on my hill descent map sign list.

It turns out this is a recent replacement, the original (as of 2018 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2028025,-119.7057203,3a,15y,21.17h,90.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeKPv4RQsKLzJ7wWOnOu9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)) having an all-yellow background.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 25, 2021, 05:54:33 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PMA map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(Photo snipped for brevity)

Thanks for this--it's going on my hill descent map sign list.

It turns out this is a recent replacement, the original (as of 2018 (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2028025,-119.7057203,3a,15y,21.17h,90.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEeKPv4RQsKLzJ7wWOnOu9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)) having an all-yellow background.

I'm glad it was changed. The yellow would blend in a bit too much with the background at a glance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 26, 2021, 01:21:08 AM
Spotted this in Lakewood, Colo:

"Left Turn Arrow Displays M-F 6-9a (https://goo.gl/maps/RdKKZn1XwVKX43a26)"

I am aware of many places that disable the green arrow during off-peak hours for various reasons, but I cannot recall seeing this sort of operation signed before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 27, 2021, 10:18:11 AM
Oregon here copies the NJ Turnpike Authority on I-5 near Eugene.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51405167051/in/dateposted-public/

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51405167051_b3c2e33f9f_k.jpg)
That is the overhead exit tab that usually is in the gore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 28, 2021, 11:01:54 PM

Neat idea for those exiting a driveway where a wye split is just ahead.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51408423492_f38688f5ff_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 28, 2021, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 28, 2021, 11:01:54 PM

Neat idea for those exiting a driveway where a wye split is just ahead.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51408423492_f38688f5ff_k.jpg)

I like it. I'm sure this would be especially helpful at truck stops, at least the ones on multi lane roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 29, 2021, 08:06:07 PM
I'm not personally sold on the concept. Drivers really should not be pulling out into anything but the closest lane unless they are turning immediately. If that sign, for example, said "right lane", is that encouraging cars to turn immediately into the far lane? Assuming, in most situations, drivers should turn out into the closest lane, signs along the arterial should be sufficient to get traffic into the correct lane from there-on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 29, 2021, 11:45:39 PM
I like the font on this sign for US 199.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51412796250_df143a6a85_k.jpg)

Northern terminus of US 199 at I-5 near Grants Pass, Oregon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 31, 2021, 01:25:53 PM
I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_9451.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 01, 2021, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.

Is that the furthest away the Golden Gate Bridge is mentioned?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 05:26:47 PM
Quote from: plain on September 01, 2021, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.

Is that the furthest away the Golden Gate Bridge is mentioned?

Thinks so.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51418310583_b8cb4c822d_4k.jpg)

On another subject, I believe this is supposed to be a reassurance sign, however the fact that both Willits and Fort Bragg are both separated by horizontal ruling, it is not necessary IMO.

BTW both cities are served by the very same CA 20 here. This sign is on CA 20 after splitting from US 101.





Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 01, 2021, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: plain on September 01, 2021, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.

Is that the furthest away the Golden Gate Bridge is mentioned?
It's a pretty famous sign amongst roadgeeks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on September 01, 2021, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(https://i.imgur.com/xfxjOFy.jpg)

Put that one in the hill signage thread!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on September 01, 2021, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 01, 2021, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(https://i.imgur.com/xfxjOFy.jpg)

Put that one in the hill signage thread!

That looks like a lot to take in at 65 MPH!!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on September 01, 2021, 10:19:01 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 05:26:47 PM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51418310583_b8cb4c822d_4k.jpg)

On another subject, I believe this is supposed to be a reassurance sign, however the fact that both Willits and Fort Bragg are both separated by horizontal ruling, it is not necessary IMO.

BTW both cities are served by the very same CA 20 here. This sign is on CA 20 after splitting from US 101.







Maybe it's the unnatural evolution of a sign that was there before the Willits Bypass was built.  Before the Willits Bypass was built, 101 also ran along this section of road.  I could see Caltrans updating an old sign by removing a 101 shield but doing nothing else to update the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 02, 2021, 07:37:24 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on September 01, 2021, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 01, 2021, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(Photo deleted)

Put that one in the hill signage thread!

That looks like a lot to take in at 65 MPH!!!!

There may be a pullout at which it is mandatory for trucks to stop. I haven't looked at Street View (if available) to confirm whether that's the case, but often when you see these sorts of signs there's a spot where truckers have to stop and check their brakes and that's where you find this sort of sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on September 02, 2021, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: machias on August 31, 2021, 01:25:53 PM
I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_9451.jpg)

That isn't Series D - at least not what Georgia used. Georgia's font is/was way worse:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1851/42350668340_9891ce15a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27wofdU)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 02, 2021, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 02, 2021, 07:37:24 AMThere may be a pullout at which it is mandatory for trucks to stop. I haven't looked at Street View (if available) to confirm whether that's the case, but often when you see these sorts of signs there's a spot where truckers have to stop and check their brakes and that's where you find this sort of sign.

I've encountered quite a few hill descent map signs in person, StreetView, and construction plans sets, and am slowly compiling a national list of them.  Many are visible to moving traffic, but I have yet to find one that doesn't have a layby or pullout within eyeshot where drivers can stop to prepare for the descent (and road enthusiasts can park while photographing the signs).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 02, 2021, 12:36:24 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 02, 2021, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: machias on August 31, 2021, 01:25:53 PM
I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_9451.jpg)

That isn't Series D - at least not what Georgia used. Georgia's font is/was way worse:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1851/42350668340_9891ce15a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27wofdU)
The ADOT one is actual Series D.  Georgia used a special font unique to them called Georgia D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 02, 2021, 01:48:24 PM
I rather like Georgia D. Perhaps just because it's different.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 02, 2021, 03:22:03 PM
Georgia D is more typographically well-formed than vanilla Series D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 02, 2021, 06:19:19 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 02, 2021, 12:36:24 PM
Quote from: US 89 on September 02, 2021, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: machias on August 31, 2021, 01:25:53 PM
I found the lettering on this new guide panel on I-10 NW of Downtown Tucson interesting. I believe it's Series D (the earlier Georgia variant). ADOT specs allow for Series D to be used if Series EEM is going to result in an extra large sign.  Photo taken today.

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/IMG_9451.jpg)

That isn't Series D - at least not what Georgia used. Georgia's font is/was way worse:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1851/42350668340_9891ce15a9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27wofdU)
The ADOT one is actual Series D.  Georgia used a special font unique to them called Georgia D.

Actually "Georgia D" is still used, it's nearly identical (no weird "D") to the Series D put out by Page Studio Graphics in the late 90s or early 00s. That's the version of Series D primarily used on mixed case signs on non-freeways in Arizona. I've seen it in plenty of other places.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 02, 2021, 10:33:37 PM
I have been a proponent of calling that version of the font "chocolate" Series D (to contrast with "vanilla" Series D found in the SHS book). It predates Page Studio Graphics; I think it's been in circulation since at least the 70s. There are matching versions of the other series as well; Springfield MO has used chocolate Series B on its street blades for the last couple of decades.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 03, 2021, 02:00:06 AM
A weird but clever way to split the bottom tab. Seen on I-182 WB:

(https://i.imgur.com/NVf2Zxo.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 03, 2021, 12:06:46 PM
I like this sign arrangement in Niagara Falls, Ontario:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ontario_Highway_420_(26800987753).jpg

Granted if we had something like this, we'd have to adjust it to our own MUTCD standards, but that's okay. Unless those roads were for motorist services, then we' could keep it blue.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 03, 2021, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 03, 2021, 12:06:46 PM
I like this sign arrangement in Niagara Falls, Ontario:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ontario_Highway_420_(26800987753).jpg

Granted if we had something like this, we'd have to adjust it to our own MUTCD standards, but that's okay. Unless those roads were for motorist services, then we' could keep it blue.



"Alternate to Falls" is ominous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 03, 2021, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 01, 2021, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: plain on September 01, 2021, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.

Is that the furthest away the Golden Gate Bridge is mentioned?
It's a pretty famous sign amongst roadgeeks.

I've actually stayed at the hotel in the picture, too. It was ... interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 03, 2021, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on September 01, 2021, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(https://i.imgur.com/xfxjOFy.jpg)

Put that one in the hill signage thread!
We have one of those?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 03, 2021, 11:46:01 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 03, 2021, 01:22:24 PMWe have one of those?

I think this is the one being referred to:

Interesting Hill Signage (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=22593.0)

I've been meaning to start a thread dedicated specifically to hill descent map signs, which represent a share but not the totality of the signs shown in that thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 04, 2021, 09:21:11 AM
To me California cut outs are 😎 cool.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51422929788_9053b8c9be_w.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SkyPesos on September 04, 2021, 10:16:41 AM
^ I much prefer California's US Routes shield design than what the rest of the states use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on September 04, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2021, 09:21:11 AM
To me California cut outs are 😎 cool.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51422929788_9053b8c9be_w.jpg)

That's a more recent replacement/installation.  It has the cardinal direction on top of the shield instead of below, which is a recent change to the California MUTCD, and it also uses a First Letter is Larger cardinal direction sign, which is also a recent practice.  I agree with you that it looks good.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 04, 2021, 12:19:05 PM
I still prefer the slightly thicker numbers on older shields, particularly the Scotchlite ones. But glad we still post cutouts in the Golden State.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: snowc on September 04, 2021, 08:56:02 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on September 04, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2021, 09:21:11 AM
To me California cut outs are 😎 cool.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51422929788_9053b8c9be_w.jpg)

That's a more recent replacement/installation.  It has the cardinal direction on top of the shield instead of below, which is a recent change to the California MUTCD, and it also uses a First Letter is Larger cardinal direction sign, which is also a recent practice.  I agree with you that it looks good.
They use this commonly in the north.
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/7/29/proc/3752801_4ebaa62fb2dae6390300dbda91f2a8a0.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 05, 2021, 02:12:24 AM
Single-panel sign for both tiers of speed limits (a bit rare in Washington):

(https://i.imgur.com/XjMz4lt.jpg)

And also a construction speed zone:

(https://i.imgur.com/bmnP7sc.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 05, 2021, 08:51:01 AM
Bruce's post makes me think of the peculiar work zone speed limit signs North Carolina used in the 1990s (I don't recall seeing any of these on I-95 in May and June of this year, but they might still use these in other parts of the state). Having "speed limit" on a single line like that always looked strange to me (the typeface is odd too, but it was the single-line "speed limit" that always caught my eye as weird). I guess if the sign caught your eye, that's a good thing, although I don't recall them generally being effective at getting people to do 55.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210905/3ae789e105ab65beedc8d74bd3e12c65.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on September 05, 2021, 12:18:23 PM
^ From what I remember, the signs that were used on the I-95 zones were variable speed limit signs, something North Carolina commonly seems to use on work zones. The speed limit was still set through the entire zone at 65 mph though, despite the shifted lanes, barriers, etc. It's reasonable though, given the flow was ~80 mph and it was a decently designed work zone.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: snowc on September 05, 2021, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 05, 2021, 02:12:24 AM
Single-panel sign for both tiers of speed limits (a bit rare in Washington):

(https://i.imgur.com/XjMz4lt.jpg)

And also a construction speed zone:

(https://i.imgur.com/bmnP7sc.jpg)
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/8/28/proc/3825377_001be4d41c4154c4968b368e5cf24108.jpg)
used on our street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 05, 2021, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 05, 2021, 02:12:24 AM
And also a construction speed zone:
(https://i.imgur.com/bmnP7sc.jpg)

The City of Norman owns one of those, and it turns up in random places across the city. Once, it was even in my yard for a day or two.
(https://i.imgur.com/cS0voeX.jpg)

I kind of wonder if it has some sort of data-recorder function and it's actually being used to do speed studies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 05, 2021, 07:30:28 PM
Once a portable speed display was posted at the beginning of a residential street that is legally blocked off from traffic.  The only legal way for traffic to pass the sign would be for a resident to pull out of a driveway and start driving that direction.  Mainly it must have been for traffic driving over the Botts dots for entering the street illegally.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on September 05, 2021, 08:27:15 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 25, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
A map posted on WA 221 right before a major downhill section showing the nearest runaway truck ramp:

(https://i.imgur.com/xfxjOFy.jpg)

that reminds me of this spot on I-40 in NC. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6174926,-82.2616384,3a,85.2y,157.55h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1ToFcOZVYuFxhGIw6D4DkQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Its at the top of a pretty gnarly descent, and all trucks over certain size are required to stop and observe the warning signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 07, 2021, 09:03:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ywy8yunfMqmYKFoQA

White TOLL plate and no SOUTH plate for I-95 here either as I-295 defaults strictly into SB I-95 only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on September 07, 2021, 01:07:22 PM
Just saw this one this weekend when I was back in KC.  Had to look at it twice to figure out what was wrong with it.

(https://i.postimg.cc/qRTGL1mp/Ugly.png)

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on September 07, 2021, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 05, 2021, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 05, 2021, 02:12:24 AM
And also a construction speed zone:
(https://i.imgur.com/bmnP7sc.jpg)

The City of Norman owns one of those, and it turns up in random places across the city. Once, it was even in my yard for a day or two.
(https://i.imgur.com/cS0voeX.jpg)

I kind of wonder if it has some sort of data-recorder function and it's actually being used to do speed studies.
did somebody say construction zone? you can kinda see it it says SLOW DOWN
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3281151,-119.038839,3a,47.5y,349.15h,89.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su7YSeWIOJp5sF2Bk1Dr_FQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 07, 2021, 04:37:57 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51422925663_e503402886_c.jpg

I like how Caltrans keeps freeway signs standard.  They have the guides with control cities only, as the Freeway Entrance signs provide orientation.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51422925663_e503402886_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 07, 2021, 06:24:18 PM
On the topic of the movable speed limit radars: I too had one basically on my yard, though no matter how long I stayed there and watched traffic, it didn't display any speed.

(https://i.imgur.com/0fhBI1s.jpg)

(Original size (https://i.imgur.com/0fhBI1s.jpg))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 08, 2021, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 07, 2021, 06:24:18 PM
On the topic of the movable speed limit radars: I too had one basically on my yard, though no matter how long I stayed there and watched traffic, it didn't display any speed.

(https://i.imgur.com/0fhBI1s.jpg)

(Original size (https://i.imgur.com/0fhBI1s.jpg))

I always wondered if those devices can specifically can pick up the speed of baseball pitches, the rhe radar guns at county fairs.

You could really mess up the speed stats on a residential street if you had somebody who can throw some heat for a while...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on September 08, 2021, 03:18:07 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 08, 2021, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 07, 2021, 06:24:18 PM
On the topic of the movable speed limit radars: I too had one basically on my yard, though no matter how long I stayed there and watched traffic, it didn't display any speed.

(https://i.imgur.com/0fhBI1s.jpg)

(Original size (https://i.imgur.com/0fhBI1s.jpg))

I always wondered if those devices can specifically can pick up the speed of baseball pitches, the rhe radar guns at county fairs.

You could really mess up the speed stats on a residential street if you had somebody who can throw some heat for a while...

The one nearest me alternates between being off and showing numbers below 20 (including 7 once) when it doesn't see a car. I'm walking at about 4 mph, so it's not tracking me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 08, 2021, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 08, 2021, 03:16:22 PM
I always wondered if those devices can specifically can pick up the speed of baseball pitches, the rhe radar guns at county fairs.

You could really mess up the speed stats on a residential street if you had somebody who can throw some heat for a while...

They made us watch some stupid movie in high school where some old retired baseball guy throws baseballs past one of those signs and can only get it up to 15. He leaves in disgust, thinking he sucks at baseball, and then the viewers see that the sign is actually malfunctioning, and it was supposed to be displaying 75 the entire time. Even as a high schooler I felt that was kind of contrived.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 08, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/J6YpfdhCVYtx7AMB7
How Massachusetts is so inconsistent at guide signs. WB MA 2A is text and EB is not.

Ditto in Northampton further south at MA 9 at US 5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 08, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 08, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/J6YpfdhCVYtx7AMB7
How Massachusetts is so inconsistent at guide signs. WB MA 2A is text and EB is not.

Also, why is the sign over the sidewalk?! Maybe that's why they couldn't fit the shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 09, 2021, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 08, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 08, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/J6YpfdhCVYtx7AMB7
How Massachusetts is so inconsistent at guide signs. WB MA 2A is text and EB is not.

Also, why is the sign over the sidewalk?! Maybe that's why they couldn't fit the shield.

That was style was common when I lived in Massachusetts in the late 1980s and early 90s, except the top sign would just have the number the size of the route marker shown, and then the smaller bottom sign would be the exact same format there.

I have a hunch someone just "replaced in kind".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 09, 2021, 10:02:58 PM
"Dismount and Lead Horses" sign on WA-224 just west of Richland

(https://i.imgur.com/rOLEtJL.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 09, 2021, 10:21:45 PM
It's almost a U2 song in a sign.

"Who's gonna dismount your lead horses? Who's gonna drown in your blue sea?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 09, 2021, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 07, 2021, 09:03:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ywy8yunfMqmYKFoQA

White TOLL plate and no SOUTH plate for I-95 here either as I-295 defaults strictly into SB I-95 only.

Looks like the pavement marking also said "West I-295," but they tried to tar over the word "west". (https://goo.gl/maps/8jLbs3pthMxqtKBN9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on September 10, 2021, 02:15:22 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 09, 2021, 11:34:50 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 07, 2021, 09:03:25 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ywy8yunfMqmYKFoQA

White TOLL plate and no SOUTH plate for I-95 here either as I-295 defaults strictly into SB I-95 only.

Looks like the pavement marking also said "West I-295," but they tried to tar over the word "west". (https://goo.gl/maps/8jLbs3pthMxqtKBN9)

It looks like the shoulder was used as a third lane previously, probably during an earlier phase of the interchange reconstruction.  Left lane read 295 WEST, middle lane read 295 SOUTH, and right lane read 29 NORTH.  When they striped back down to two lanes, they bead blasted the markings off the right lane entirely, the shield, the SOUTH and 5 off the middle lane, and smudged out the WEST in the first lane.

Further on:
(https://i.imgur.com/ib3T6qs.jpg)

From the other direction:
(https://i.imgur.com/IwNnXiv.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 10, 2021, 02:37:55 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on September 10, 2021, 02:15:22 AM
From the other direction:
(https://i.imgur.com/IwNnXiv.jpg)

Is it just me, or does it say Princeton?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 10, 2021, 04:08:37 AM
A custom little sign from this 1982 newspaper article on people stealing waste wood from construction sites:

(https://i.imgur.com/a8dT1Gz.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on September 10, 2021, 06:00:41 AM
I came across an article about life on Diego Garcia (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-9966363/Former-U-S-intelligence-officer-reveals-like-living-secretive-Diego-Garcia-base.html) (British Indian Ocean Territory, where the US has a military base). One of the photos shows a highway route marker, circa 1977.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/08/14/47653131-9966363-image-a-434_1631107783462.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 10, 2021, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: machias on September 09, 2021, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 08, 2021, 09:24:45 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 08, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/J6YpfdhCVYtx7AMB7
How Massachusetts is so inconsistent at guide signs. WB MA 2A is text and EB is not.

Also, why is the sign over the sidewalk?! Maybe that's why they couldn't fit the shield.

That was style was common when I lived in Massachusetts in the late 1980s and early 90s, except the top sign would just have the number the size of the route marker shown, and then the smaller bottom sign would be the exact same format there.

I have a hunch someone just "replaced in kind".

Looks to me that if the lower sign was designed to spec like the upper sign, it wouldn't have left enough clear space over the sidewalk per MUTCD guidelines/standards. Conversely, nothing in the MUTCD says you have to use a shield for route guidance. (Although it all could have been fixed with mounting the first sign higher to begin with.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 12, 2021, 08:17:25 PM
A few Interstates in Washington were designated as "green highways" in 2007, but finding signage for them is a bit hard.

This example was one I spotted on I-82 eastbound climbing out of Ellensburg (a few miles from its terminus). Kind of a random spot for it.

(https://i.imgur.com/DIj0iak.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 12, 2021, 11:26:55 PM
Instead of a directional plate, QC-370 has a "JCT 15" plate at its eastern end:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@46.0315684,-74.0570084,3a,37.5y,160.97h,82.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK52JpAnhDz5-IuKRF0oCgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

(https://i.imgur.com/oskZ1Je.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on September 13, 2021, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 10, 2021, 02:37:55 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on September 10, 2021, 02:15:22 AM
From the other direction:
(https://i.imgur.com/IwNnXiv.jpg)

Is it just me, or does it say Princeton?

"Princeto"  to the nth power.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on September 13, 2021, 11:44:59 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on September 13, 2021, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 10, 2021, 02:37:55 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on September 10, 2021, 02:15:22 AM
From the other direction:
(https://i.imgur.com/IwNnXiv.jpg)

Is it just me, or does it say Princeton?

"Princeto"  to the nth power.

i think the photo's distorted; the upper-right corner of the sign panel is similarly shifted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 15, 2021, 12:14:28 PM
Air conditioned highway in Columbia, MO.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51477931187_16da5e9f98_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 15, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
A white on green EMERGENCY PULL OFF sign smdh come on VDOT

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210915/6d2d0db2254085c3bf2ed67191cc4cd0.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on September 15, 2021, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 01, 2021, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: plain on September 01, 2021, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 01, 2021, 03:36:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51416028766/

A great highway guide, but not standard and not state installed either.

Is that the furthest away the Golden Gate Bridge is mentioned?
It's a pretty famous sign amongst roadgeeks.


I know it's an old and classic sign, but I do wonder why they signed for Golden Gate Bridge and not San Francisco.  I guess the bridge itself was such a tourist attraction, that people wanted to see the bridge as they passed through Redwood country.

I also wonder if in the pre-interastate era, whether taking 99 or 199 to 101 was the faster way to San Francisco.  In today's highways, using 5-505-80 would be far better, but I'm not sure about what it was like many years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on September 15, 2021, 06:45:15 PM
Quote from: plain on September 15, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
A white on green EMERGENCY PULL OFF sign smdh come on VDOT

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210915/6d2d0db2254085c3bf2ed67191cc4cd0.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

D17-6 in proposed MUTCD is white on green although the term they use is "EMERGENCY TURN-OUT"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 16, 2021, 02:28:38 AM
Another interesting sign I found while browsing municipal roads in Québec... I wouldn't be able to read that at any speed. It seems to be detailing who is in charge of the construction zone.

(https://i.imgur.com/Js5ZWgh.png)
(Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3038739,-72.1439142,3a,15y,210.53h,84.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssKDU_7ZBtQxXq0INCBBhKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 16, 2021, 12:02:32 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51412083598_9f79b0cf7c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mk7nhs)2021 Western road trip Day 12 - 197 (https://flic.kr/p/2mk7nhs) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on September 16, 2021, 03:24:35 PM
^^ Where is that sign located?  I might want to stay away from there ...  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 16, 2021, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: renegade on September 16, 2021, 03:24:35 PM^^ Where is that sign located?  I might want to stay away from there ...  :bigass:

It's at US 6 over Loveland Pass.  And in any case, it's aimed at backcountry users only--motor vehicle traffic simply has extra-large No Parking signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: renegade on September 16, 2021, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 16, 2021, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: renegade on September 16, 2021, 03:24:35 PM^^ Where is that sign located?  I might want to stay away from there ...  :bigass:

It's at US 6 over Loveland Pass.  And in any case, it's aimed at backcountry users only--motor vehicle traffic simply has extra-large No Parking signs.
It's been awhile since I've been there ... guess I need to go back!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Skye on September 16, 2021, 07:27:23 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGbdWmjK.png&hash=6a0fe12db72a21374c2f350b23930fa28d138edb)

On Park Ave in Norwood, OH
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 16, 2021, 10:36:09 PM
nom
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 17, 2021, 01:33:07 AM
Seen in Tsawwassen, BC:

(https://i.imgur.com/JBZ2YNj.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 17, 2021, 01:54:36 AM
Quote from: Bruce on September 17, 2021, 01:33:07 AM
Seen in Tsawwassen, BC:

https://i.imgur.com/JBZ2YNj.jpeg

Never seen a date for a NEW plaque in BC before. That's very unique!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 17, 2021, 09:42:35 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51409499238_dbe7e8319c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mjT83w)2021 Western road trip Day 4 - 060 (https://flic.kr/p/2mjT83w) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Looks like a MT 42 marker has been pasted over an existing marker here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: snowc on September 17, 2021, 10:19:26 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 17, 2021, 09:42:35 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51409499238_dbe7e8319c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mjT83w)2021 Western road trip Day 4 - 060 (https://flic.kr/p/2mjT83w) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Looks like a MT 42 marker has been pasted over an existing marker here.
Similar to this sign
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/7/29/proc/3752801_4015778cf8c5a90e7c5d0c635073e0dc.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 17, 2021, 01:05:59 PM
Seen in Vancouver at Main & Kingsway:

(https://i.imgur.com/IUcYhQ7.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 17, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
Why is the sign so far away from the road? (https://goo.gl/maps/rJqzD9f2baNE4ZdEA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 18, 2021, 12:12:46 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 17, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
Why is the sign so far away from the road? (https://goo.gl/maps/rJqzD9f2baNE4ZdEA)

It doesn't seem to be that far. Maybe the odd poles make it look like it's further away from the road?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 18, 2021, 01:34:12 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 17, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
Why is the sign so far away from the road? (https://goo.gl/maps/rJqzD9f2baNE4ZdEA)

It's certainly an unusual way to mount a distance sign.  The cantilever structure keeps footings out of the creek, and I suspect the arms run to the side rather than over the freeway to prevent the sign being misinterpreted from a distance as part of the signing sequence for an exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on September 18, 2021, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 17, 2021, 09:42:35 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51409499238_dbe7e8319c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mjT83w)2021 Western road trip Day 4 - 060 (https://flic.kr/p/2mjT83w) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Looks like a MT 42 marker has been pasted over an existing marker here.

This is covering a MT 24W marker.  MT 42 replaced MT 24W about 1994.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 18, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
Is a person from Fort Peck known as a Fort Pecker?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 18, 2021, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 18, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
Is a person from Fort Peck known as a Fort Pecker?

Demonym "not available (https://www.citydirectory.us/town-fort-peck.html)" :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 18, 2021, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 18, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
Is a person from Fort Peck known as a Fort Pecker?

Lmmfaooooo
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: KEK Inc. on September 19, 2021, 02:40:45 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210919/9761d7d9549c8d349d08ec7eadb1ca1c.jpg)

Saw this Seattle error on the way to my gym the other day.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 19, 2021, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on September 19, 2021, 02:40:45 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210919/9761d7d9549c8d349d08ec7eadb1ca1c.jpg)

Saw this Seattle error on the way to my gym the other day.


iPhone

It's been there for a while. I suspect it was installed by the contractors for the Dearborn PBL project last year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 21, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
This advanced exit guide on K-61 in Hutchinson, KS.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51485505515_4bacc1b5eb_c.jpg)

Using feet over fraction of a mile is very odd and very rare.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on September 21, 2021, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.
Ew. Those numbers look like they've nearly congealed into near extinction. I guess that's the price you pay for having crappy ink or stick-on film. Nice, NDOT. Nice one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 21, 2021, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.

Google Street View for the confirmation:

The picture show was probably taken from this Feb 2021 GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/oxfDbKyfC7Xiz5R69

A GSV shot in Feb 2019 shows advanced peeling already, but not as bad: https://goo.gl/maps/ufdEuPwLz7BR2oxK8

Prior to that, the sign was on a different overhead gantry. Looking very closely at the sign, it appears they may have used the same sign, as everything matches up, other than the Exit tab location.  Based on that,

A GSV shot in Sept, 2017, shows a slight hint of peeling, but nothing very noticeable. https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

In March 2017 - almost no peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

And then prior to that - in July 2016, no evidence of peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KwEXN1g2SGSqvnoV6

So, based on this 'expert' analysis - The numbers definitely were real numbers, not drawn on with marker.  The sign is at least 10 years old.  But for some reason, the numbers are peeling off, possibly prematurely.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on September 21, 2021, 07:05:03 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 21, 2021, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.

Google Street View for the confirmation:

The picture show was probably taken from this Feb 2021 GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/oxfDbKyfC7Xiz5R69

A GSV shot in Feb 2019 shows advanced peeling already, but not as bad: https://goo.gl/maps/ufdEuPwLz7BR2oxK8

Prior to that, the sign was on a different overhead gantry. Looking very closely at the sign, it appears they may have used the same sign, as everything matches up, other than the Exit tab location.  Based on that,

A GSV shot in Sept, 2017, shows a slight hint of peeling, but nothing very noticeable. https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

In March 2017 - almost no peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

And then prior to that - in July 2016, no evidence of peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KwEXN1g2SGSqvnoV6

So, based on this 'expert' analysis - The numbers definitely were real numbers, not drawn on with marker.  The sign is at least 10 years old.  But for some reason, the numbers are peeling off, possibly prematurely.

I have actually seen a sign with marker on it, it was a closed "placard"  on an overhead gantry on I-240E approaching I-35, in 2015(?). It was as ugly as you probably expect.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Skye on September 22, 2021, 09:27:49 PM
This was in Cincinnati on Clinton Springs Ave approaching Dana Ave. This picture is from 2013, long after US 25 had been decommissioned in Ohio. The other odd thing about this is that once you get to the sign you just passed Reading Rd, so to turn right on Dana Ave to get to Reading Rd (which can be done easily) makes no sense. The sign was removed when the intersection was redesigned as a roundabout.

(https://i.imgur.com/XrnDlMX.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 22, 2021, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 21, 2021, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.

Google Street View for the confirmation:

The picture show was probably taken from this Feb 2021 GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/oxfDbKyfC7Xiz5R69

A GSV shot in Feb 2019 shows advanced peeling already, but not as bad: https://goo.gl/maps/ufdEuPwLz7BR2oxK8

Prior to that, the sign was on a different overhead gantry. Looking very closely at the sign, it appears they may have used the same sign, as everything matches up, other than the Exit tab location.  Based on that,

A GSV shot in Sept, 2017, shows a slight hint of peeling, but nothing very noticeable. https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

In March 2017 - almost no peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

And then prior to that - in July 2016, no evidence of peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KwEXN1g2SGSqvnoV6

So, based on this 'expert' analysis - The numbers definitely were real numbers, not drawn on with marker.  The sign is at least 10 years old.  But for some reason, the numbers are peeling off, possibly prematurely.

There is something so ironic to me, seeing that sign on GMSV. You have these nice, modern dot-matrix VMS displays to the left and beneath on the same gantry. And the DOT can't make some basic black numbers that last. I know it's more complicated than that, a lot of material testing goes into finding something that is effective, but it's slightly funny to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on September 23, 2021, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 22, 2021, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 21, 2021, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.

Google Street View for the confirmation:

The picture show was probably taken from this Feb 2021 GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/oxfDbKyfC7Xiz5R69

A GSV shot in Feb 2019 shows advanced peeling already, but not as bad: https://goo.gl/maps/ufdEuPwLz7BR2oxK8

Prior to that, the sign was on a different overhead gantry. Looking very closely at the sign, it appears they may have used the same sign, as everything matches up, other than the Exit tab location.  Based on that,

A GSV shot in Sept, 2017, shows a slight hint of peeling, but nothing very noticeable. https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

In March 2017 - almost no peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KidqpG1u4rrMCURq6

And then prior to that - in July 2016, no evidence of peeling: https://goo.gl/maps/KwEXN1g2SGSqvnoV6

So, based on this 'expert' analysis - The numbers definitely were real numbers, not drawn on with marker.  The sign is at least 10 years old.  But for some reason, the numbers are peeling off, possibly prematurely.

There is something so ironic to me, seeing that sign on GMSV. You have these nice, modern dot-matrix VMS displays to the left and beneath on the same gantry. And the DOT can't make some basic black numbers that last. I know it's more complicated than that, a lot of material testing goes into finding something that is effective, but it's slightly funny to me.

The black ink/film peeling is a phenomenon not unique to this sign. Given the heat in the Las Vegas area, it can be somewhat common on certain vintages of signs. Although in my experience, it's usually less likely to be encountered with route numbers and far more prominent on exit only panels (although that could be because exit only panels are far more abundant).

Looking at this following jeffandnicole's analysis reveals a couple interesting notes:

The sign was relocated to a new gantry as part of I-15 Project Neon (that big VMS display, and several others like it, was installed as part of that project). The original sign placement was oddly in the median, so justified more to the left on the roadway. The original gantry also had lighting fixtures. The new placement is on the right as is more typical. However, the sign is raised up above the bottom of the truss--something that was typical in the 90s as NDOT replaced fluorescent lighting fixtures with newer fixtures (HPS?) that were a bit bulkier and blocked the bottom of the signs. However, there is no lighting with the new installation, so the raised panel doesn't make sense here...

Also, if it is the same sign, then it is odd for it to not be lit. While NDOT District 2 (NW Nevada/Reno) has embraced new signs with enhanced sheeting to remove sign lighting, District 1 (Southern NV/Las Vegas) has not really employed this. So the sign sheeting is probably not the same caliber of reflectivity at night. Probably not as big a deal since the Vegas area employs heavy use of high mast lighting (unlike Reno) so the nighttime illumination is likely fine.

Additionally, NDOT BGSs typically have the sign panels mounted to a rigid frame, and that frame is mounted to the sign truss. This makes removing or repositioning a sign fairly easy. However, the exit tab moved when the sign was relocated, which is odd given the typical installation method. Also doubly odd because this introduced an error–this is not a left exit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 23, 2021, 02:55:43 PM
QuoteUsing feet over fraction of a mile is very odd and very rare.

Odd, yes, but I wouldn't say it's rare. I see this now and then in California. Maybe it's more unusual elsewhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 24, 2021, 12:17:08 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51511641418/in/dateposted-public/
Boy how fast the US 400 shield faded.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on September 24, 2021, 05:51:24 PM
 (https://i.imgur.com/E0I1xUY.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7092679,-121.8985096,3a,15y,52.29h,84.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sx4jPytOjlFj5Mieg253eYQ!2e0!5s20200101T000000!7i16384!8i8192)

A blue no parking sign
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 24, 2021, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on September 24, 2021, 05:51:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E0I1xUY.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7092679,-121.8985096,3a,15y,52.29h,84.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sx4jPytOjlFj5Mieg253eYQ!2e0!5s20200101T000000!7i16384!8i8192)

A blue no parking sign

I read it as though the name of the boulevard was "NO", and that parking was allowed any time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

That's pretty interesting. I was not aware that they had changed the operation of that intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 25, 2021, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

Also worth noting is the incredibly sloppy tape on the temporary sign next to it:

(https://i.imgur.com/Lq0vu7A.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 25, 2021, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

That's pretty interesting. I was not aware that they had changed the operation of that intersection.

It got switched about 15 years ago when the WB offramp was rebuilt.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 25, 2021, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

That's pretty interesting. I was not aware that they had changed the operation of that intersection.

It got switched about 15 years ago when the WB offramp was rebuilt.

I had to look it up in historical imagery. I'm not sure I realized that Bunk Foss Rd was realigned. I can see the line in the trees now that you've brought it to my attention. I thought how it was today was how it had always been, at least since US-2 was realigned via the Snohomish Bypass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 25, 2021, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

Also worth noting is the incredibly sloppy tape on the temporary sign next to it:

(https://i.imgur.com/Lq0vu7A.png)

Honestly, pretty par for the course around here. Those signs are produced en-masse and then contractors apply the relevant times and dates to the bottom portion. The blocky alarm-clock style writing seems oddly common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 25, 2021, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 25, 2021, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

Also worth noting is the incredibly sloppy tape on the temporary sign next to it:

(https://i.imgur.com/Lq0vu7A.png)

Honestly, pretty par for the course around here. Those signs are produced en-masse and then contractors apply the relevant times and dates to the bottom portion. The blocky alarm-clock style writing seems oddly common.
Maybe block is encouraged for legibility reasons -- one's handwriting could be even worse?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Galaga King on September 25, 2021, 11:47:31 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on September 21, 2021, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: plain on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2021, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Galaga King on September 19, 2021, 09:14:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/N05R6hU.jpg)

Southbound Interstate 15
Las Vegas, NV
September 2021

Is that number written on with marker? Is that what I'm seeing?!

...this might be worthy of the actual Worst of Road Signs thread if it is.
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 19, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
No, it looks more like the heat (obviously considerable in Lost Wages) caused the numbers to warp. Usually NDOT is better about that, though.

The 5 looks so deformed though, makes me think the font wasn't anything standard to begin with.

Google Street View for the confirmation:

The picture show was probably taken from this Feb 2021 GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/oxfDbKyfC7Xiz5R69


The photo was taken by me personally in September 2021.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on September 26, 2021, 01:47:45 AM
Quote from: Rothman on September 25, 2021, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 25, 2021, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

Also worth noting is the incredibly sloppy tape on the temporary sign next to it:

(https://i.imgur.com/Lq0vu7A.png)

Honestly, pretty par for the course around here. Those signs are produced en-masse and then contractors apply the relevant times and dates to the bottom portion. The blocky alarm-clock style writing seems oddly common.
Maybe block is encouraged for legibility reasons -- one's handwriting could be even worse?
I believe in many cases it's because it's literally tape that they're using for the writing on these signs, probably because it's more durable than markers while still allowing the signs to be reused. It's the same idea as these funny temporary tape bike symbols (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6092367,-122.3390129,3a,15y,252.06h,80.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNgxu1WiN-kucLwdL7_j0EQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNgxu1WiN-kucLwdL7_j0EQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D50.361877%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: stevashe on September 27, 2021, 02:56:10 AM
Quote from: jay8g on September 26, 2021, 01:47:45 AM
Quote from: Rothman on September 25, 2021, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 25, 2021, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 25, 2021, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on September 24, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Placed here because I can't find the thread about "No stopping on right turn" with a stop sign.  "Thru traffic permitted without stopping" "ahead" (https://goo.gl/maps/VFquYVNnFczujNQK6)

Also worth noting is the incredibly sloppy tape on the temporary sign next to it:

(https://i.imgur.com/Lq0vu7A.png)

Honestly, pretty par for the course around here. Those signs are produced en-masse and then contractors apply the relevant times and dates to the bottom portion. The blocky alarm-clock style writing seems oddly common.
Maybe block is encouraged for legibility reasons -- one's handwriting could be even worse?
I believe in many cases it's because it's literally tape that they're using for the writing on these signs, probably because it's more durable than markers while still allowing the signs to be reused. It's the same idea as these funny temporary tape bike symbols (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6092367,-122.3390129,3a,15y,252.06h,80.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNgxu1WiN-kucLwdL7_j0EQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNgxu1WiN-kucLwdL7_j0EQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D50.361877%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Thankfully those have since been replaced (https://goo.gl/maps/TRzbG8xfXpQbQGvB9). I actually had a hand in drawing up the plans for that! Apparently they stuck around for longer than they should have because the developer that tore up the road there got out of having to replace the markings somehow...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 28, 2021, 10:07:38 PM
This is an interesting TRUCK ROUTE sign.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51528027757_0a69cbd339_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 29, 2021, 01:14:44 AM
I've never seen TRUCK ROUTE posted above a shield like that, usually just TRUCK. Nice!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 29, 2021, 01:28:49 AM
No idea what the font on that K-254 shield is, and EAST US-77? Yikes, KDOT is being uncharacteristically sloppy there...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on September 29, 2021, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 28, 2021, 10:07:38 PM
This is an interesting TRUCK ROUTE sign.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51528027757_0a69cbd339_k.jpg)

Virginia sometimes does that.

That K-254 shield looks like something out of a used car lot, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 29, 2021, 07:51:00 PM
An ugly effort in Olympia, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/GvcN67O.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on September 29, 2021, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 29, 2021, 07:51:00 PM
An ugly effort in Olympia, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/GvcN67O.png)
O ER A   TO MOTTMAN RD
SO. P  ET SO N   . .
O TH ER ICE CENTER
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 30, 2021, 12:13:05 AM
Wait...the Mothman?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on September 30, 2021, 01:36:35 AM
Tunnel signs on I-90 in Seattle:

(https://i.imgur.com/5JrcIMF.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 30, 2021, 09:25:03 AM
Quote from: Bruce on September 30, 2021, 01:36:35 AM
Tunnel signs on I-90 in Seattle:

(https://i.imgur.com/5JrcIMF.jpeg)


That arrangement is a little weird to me, but probably because I'm sitting at my computer desk and not driving under them. I think I prefer the way they're done in Massachusetts, with two lines at most on one panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 30, 2021, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 29, 2021, 01:28:49 AMNo idea what the font on that K-254 shield is, and EAST US-77? Yikes, KDOT is being uncharacteristically sloppy there...

I think it's a knockdown replacement--there was a time (thankfully now ended) when KDOT District 5 (which covers south-central Kansas) was using Arial/Helvetica digits for them.

Downtown El Dorado is not especially difficult for large trucks to navigate, so I suspect the real reason there is a (clumsily) signposted truck route along Haverhill/Sunset/Conner/Kansas is that it goes past the oil-and-gas facilities to the southwest of town.  The green sign that is faded to illegibility is for Frontier Refinery, now shown on Google Maps as HollyFrontier El Dorado Refining.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 03, 2021, 07:25:35 PM
A few different signs from last week's trip to Michigan's northern Lower Peninsula.

On the Betsie Valley Trail approaching M-115 east of Frankfort:
(https://i.imgur.com/MwkF54E.jpg)

The bottom sign -- some county attitude near a popular trailhead in the Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lakeshore.  There's gotta be an interesting story behind this one:
(https://i.imgur.com/5eohMkO.jpg)

Southbound I-75 before Grayling, about 14 miles before the beginning of US-127:
(https://i.imgur.com/yweayNv.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on October 03, 2021, 08:02:42 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on September 29, 2021, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 29, 2021, 07:51:00 PM
An ugly effort in Olympia, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/GvcN67O.png)
O ER A   TO MOTTMAN RD
SO. P  ET SO N   . .
O TH ER ICE CENTER

From that day forward, they never had a bring your kids to work day at the sign shop again.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SkyPesos on October 03, 2021, 09:07:54 PM
Quote from: Bruce on September 29, 2021, 07:51:00 PM
An ugly effort in Olympia, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/GvcN67O.png)
That could give the Craig County sign a run for its money  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 03, 2021, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 03, 2021, 07:25:35 PM
A few different signs from last week's trip to Michigan's northern Lower Peninsula.

On the Betsie Valley Trail approaching M-115 east of Frankfort:
(https://i.imgur.com/MwkF54E.jpg)

Huh, that dumb sign idea I had was real all along.

Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 16, 2021, 01:25:38 AM
A dumb idea I've had for an alternate jumction sign for provincial routes:

(https://i.imgur.com/7ul9tD0.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 04, 2021, 01:14:47 PM
When "next right" is "right now."

https://goo.gl/maps/fzBfFoZ4EBdF7tdo9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 04, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 04, 2021, 01:14:47 PM
When "next right" is "right now."

https://goo.gl/maps/fzBfFoZ4EBdF7tdo9

Well, it's technically not false.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 04, 2021, 03:30:42 PM
Nah, that should definitely have the arrow instead of NEXT RIGHT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 04, 2021, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 04, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 04, 2021, 01:14:47 PM
When "next right" is "right now."

https://goo.gl/maps/fzBfFoZ4EBdF7tdo9

Well, it's technically not false.

Mississippi does that for several exits on I-59, in lieu of an exit arrow BGS; I think there's at least other state which does it semi-frequently (but can't recall which one right now).

This lets them get away with placing that exit's final guide sign anywhere from 10-to-1000 feet away.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/956/41460065114_ed741df4a3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26aFEUS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51283790801_d3f4889b58_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m8LQiF)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 04, 2021, 06:36:18 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 04, 2021, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 04, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 04, 2021, 01:14:47 PM
When "next right" is "right now."

https://goo.gl/maps/fzBfFoZ4EBdF7tdo9

Well, it's technically not false.

Mississippi does that for several exits on I-59, in lieu of an exit arrow BGS; I think there's at least other state which does it semi-frequently (but can't recall which one right now).

This lets them get away with placing that exit's final guide sign anywhere from 10-to-1000 feet away.


Many of the exits along I-70 in Garfield and Eagle County, Colorado do that as wellbon their recent rou.d of signs.  Prior to that they did use arrows, so I'm thinking somewhere along the line, they copied the specs from older-era signs and not the signs they were actually replacing.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 05, 2021, 05:18:54 PM
We've got plenty of "Arterial Turn" signs in Seattle and some surrounding cities, but not many END signs:

(https://i.imgur.com/NobP6T4.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 05, 2021, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 05, 2021, 05:18:54 PM
We've got plenty of "Arterial Turn" signs in Seattle and some surrounding cities, but not many END signs:

(ARTERIAL ENDS HERE)

Weird how it seems to use an old font, yet it has diamond grade retroreflective sheeting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 06, 2021, 09:29:29 AM
This is interesting here on I-95 in Port St. Lucie.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51553155020_7a8419f601_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/28780708705_85338c41d6_k.jpg)
A Next 5 Exits followed by a Next 3 Exits two interchanges later.
Plus the ST on one of the signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 06, 2021, 12:45:48 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 05, 2021, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 05, 2021, 05:18:54 PM
We've got plenty of "Arterial Turn" signs in Seattle and some surrounding cities, but not many END signs:

(ARTERIAL ENDS HERE)

Weird how it seems to use an old font, yet it has diamond grade retroreflective sheeting.

I noticed that too. The font is reminiscent of one used by Kentucky's District 5 (the Louisville district) in the 60s and 70s and into the 80s. There are still a few examples of it that can be seen, but they're rare.
Title: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on October 06, 2021, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 06, 2021, 09:29:29 AM
This is interesting here on I-95 in Port St. Lucie.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51553155020_7a8419f601_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/28780708705_85338c41d6_k.jpg)
A Next 5 Exits followed by a Next 3 Exits two interchanges later.
Plus the ST on one of the signs.
I know of a couple places like that. The city grew, added new exits on the freeway, or the city recognized that exits further out served that city, too.

Not sure if West Monroe, LA still has two signs, but I think it just updated the sign to "next 5 exits"  once Downing Pines Rd interchange was added on I-20.

US 167 coming into Pineville, LA has one that says "Pineville next 5 exits"  just before Us 165 with an older one later on that says "Pineville next 3 exits"


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 09, 2021, 01:15:58 PM
On the AP-7 near Alicante in Spain:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZJHzrn7.png)

"Marruecos" = Morocco, "Argelia" = Algeria.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on October 09, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
Seen in Culver City, CA (a suburb of Los Angeles).
Do you pay at the Pay Station or at this meter?
If the valet parks someone's car here between 6-9pm on a Tuesday, will it be towed?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51570902230_83ce2244cc_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 09, 2021, 10:38:28 PM
This one as it's longer than most state's longest freeway, but not the longest in this state.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48472067047_f37f2eeccf_4k.jpg)

Welcome to the Lone Star State and 636 miles of freeway to end not even at another state line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2021, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: M3100 on October 09, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
Seen in Culver City, CA (a suburb of Los Angeles).
Do you pay at the Pay Station or at this meter?
If the valet parks someone's car here between 6-9pm on a Tuesday, will it be towed?
(image)

it seems like a lot of the signs are mutually exclusive. i can't seem to calculate when one can park there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 10, 2021, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2021, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: M3100 on October 09, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
Seen in Culver City, CA (a suburb of Los Angeles).
Do you pay at the Pay Station or at this meter?
If the valet parks someone's car here between 6-9pm on a Tuesday, will it be towed?
(image)

it seems like a lot of the signs are mutually exclusive. i can't seem to calculate when one can park there.

Safest thing is to follow the most restrictive sign in that situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 10, 2021, 12:34:39 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 10, 2021, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 10, 2021, 10:22:26 AM
Quote from: M3100 on October 09, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
Seen in Culver City, CA (a suburb of Los Angeles).
Do you pay at the Pay Station or at this meter?
If the valet parks someone's car here between 6-9pm on a Tuesday, will it be towed?
(image)

it seems like a lot of the signs are mutually exclusive. i can't seem to calculate when one can park there.

Safest thing is to follow the most restrictive sign in that situation.

But if you're elsewhere and get a valet, and they park it there during the Tuesday restriction...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 10, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
A side road off US-522 in Virginia.  You'd think this was obvious, but maybe not.

(https://i.imgur.com/aH4VZS1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 10, 2021, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 10, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
A side road off US-522 in Virginia.  You'd think this was obvious, but maybe not.

(https://i.imgur.com/aH4VZS1.jpg)


Always bring a towel with you and make sure you are completely dry before you cross this bridge...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 02:40:35 AM
wtf! A warning sign in the middle!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5920952,-82.5718385,3a,44.8y,339.87h,89.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7mkA-UMv82LGFyW2k-u3Iw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They have it on the other side as well...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.592915,-82.5718569,3a,75y,188.31h,81.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHO5J0qtdHDlK6n6xLxuouQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Now you CAN say that is unique!

(https://i.imgur.com/zz20RsK.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SkyPesos on October 11, 2021, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 02:40:35 AM
wtf! A warning sign in the middle!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5920952,-82.5718385,3a,44.8y,339.87h,89.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7mkA-UMv82LGFyW2k-u3Iw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They have it on the other side as well...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.592915,-82.5718569,3a,75y,188.31h,81.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHO5J0qtdHDlK6n6xLxuouQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Now you CAN say that is unique!

(https://i.imgur.com/zz20RsK.png)
Similar idea, but wrong sign. It's supposed to be a "Keep right"  sign in this case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:06:21 AM
Quote from: SkyPesos on October 11, 2021, 03:00:34 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 02:40:35 AM
wtf! A warning sign in the middle!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5920952,-82.5718385,3a,44.8y,339.87h,89.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7mkA-UMv82LGFyW2k-u3Iw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They have it on the other side as well...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.592915,-82.5718569,3a,75y,188.31h,81.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHO5J0qtdHDlK6n6xLxuouQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Now you CAN say that is unique!

(https://i.imgur.com/zz20RsK.png)
Similar idea, but wrong sign. It's supposed to be a "Keep right"  sign in this case.
That sign is normally used if the road divides to 4 lanes with a median...really. :banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on October 11, 2021, 09:39:01 AM
That sign is used on 2-lane roads that have a median for a brief time.

Here is US 17 in Vanceboro NC - https://goo.gl/maps/d2J6y3e7WDij4cKx7

Here is VA 311 approaching a 'tunnel' under a RR where each side has its own tube - https://goo.gl/maps/zin6JopEA2V64zEK8

Here is SC 64 approaching US 17 ini Jacksonboro SC.  In this case, at no point is there ever a multilane - https://goo.gl/maps/4XucLxFYHKxu5H2R7; https://goo.gl/maps/vcc7sZcDtbSFKrGy5  This sign remains even though they redid this intersection to have no median.

It is even used on a 4 lane undivided road becoming divided for a time.  Here is US 1 near Doswell VA - https://goo.gl/maps/9gPQetTdmst47LQz9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 11, 2021, 10:09:06 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 02:40:35 AM
<snipped> A warning sign in the middle!
(https://i.imgur.com/zz20RsK.png)

Quote from: SkyPesos on October 11, 2021, 03:00:34 AM
Similar idea, but wrong sign. It's supposed to be a "Keep right"  sign in this case.

Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 03:06:21 AM
That sign is normally used if the road divides to 4 lanes with a median...really. :banghead:

You are correct that the Divided Highway warning sign (W6-1) should be on the right side approaching the median.  SkyPesos is also correct that there should be a "Keep Right" sign (R4-7) in the median and also at the railroad bridge support column in the median.  But the Divided Highway sign (W6-1) doesn't necessarily mean multi-lane divided, and should still be used in this situation.

By the way, MUTCD specifically bans this application: "The Divided Highway (W6-1) sign shall not be used instead of a Keep Right (R4-7 series) sign on the approach end of a median island".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 12, 2021, 08:04:49 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 11, 2021, 02:40:35 AM
wtf! A warning sign in the middle!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5920952,-82.5718385,3a,44.8y,339.87h,89.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7mkA-UMv82LGFyW2k-u3Iw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

They have it on the other side as well...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.592915,-82.5718569,3a,75y,188.31h,81.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHO5J0qtdHDlK6n6xLxuouQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Now you CAN say that is unique!

(https://i.imgur.com/zz20RsK.png)

They have one of these kinds of errors near where I live back home. Unfortunately, it's somewhat common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 12, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)
Yes
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 12, 2021, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 12, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)
Yes

That would be wrong on even another count, as the sign implies the median island ends when in fact it begins.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 14, 2021, 06:49:02 AM
Quote from: US 89 on October 12, 2021, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 12, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)
Yes

That would be wrong on even another count, as the sign implies the median island ends when in fact it begins.
But with a KEEP RIGHT sign like SkyPesos mentioned, I think it will be fine.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 14, 2021, 03:03:52 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)

Woah, I was just up that road yesterday looking at apartments. And then here it is! For the record: way too expensive, so don't try and find me up there lol.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
^^^

Why wouldn't turning that "Divided Highway Ends" sign upside down and making it into a "Divided Highway Begins" sign not be appropriate? True, it's not a white "Keep Right" sign but it would be functionally appropriate if it was mounted correctly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 14, 2021, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 04:13:31 PMWhy wouldn't turning that "Divided Highway Ends" sign upside down and making it into a "Divided Highway Begins" sign not be appropriate? True, it's not a white "Keep Right" sign but it would be functionally appropriate if it was mounted correctly.

In order to be correct, it has to be mounted before the upstream nose of the island so that it warns of the divided-highway condition.  "Keep right" is used on the nose itself because that is where a regulation (keep on your side of the divider) begins.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on October 14, 2021, 10:12:48 PM
Also, doesn't divided highway have a clear definition? It may not be legal, but a divided highway has to at least have a median (and multilane from my experiences). That just looks like the road divides (splits into one way couplets) instead of a true divided highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 14, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
Why wouldn't turning that "Divided Highway Ends" sign upside down and making it into a "Divided Highway Begins" sign not be appropriate? True, it's not a white "Keep Right" sign but it would be functionally appropriate if it was mounted correctly.

It's the legal semantics surrounding MUTCD.  A railroad crossing crossbuck sign must be preceded by a railroad crossing warning sign.  Back in my first years of railroading, accidents occurring at a grade crossing with deficient signage could be proven as negligent.  When my railroad decided to quit rolling over in lawsuits, we were constantly reminded to get deficient or incorrect signage replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 14, 2021, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on October 14, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
Why wouldn't turning that "Divided Highway Ends" sign upside down and making it into a "Divided Highway Begins" sign not be appropriate? True, it's not a white "Keep Right" sign but it would be functionally appropriate if it was mounted correctly.

It's the legal semantics surrounding MUTCD.  A railroad crossing crossbuck sign must be preceded by a railroad crossing warning sign.  Back in my first years of railroading, accidents occurring at a grade crossing with deficient signage could be proven as negligent.  When my railroad decided to quit rolling over in lawsuits, we were constantly reminded to get deficient or incorrect signage replaced.
Heh.  One of the difficulties NYSDOT has found in dealing with CSX is their mentality is that accidents are what lawyers are for, rather than taking cheap measures to prevent such (e.g., flaggers and the like).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 15, 2021, 11:34:33 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 14, 2021, 11:43:28 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on October 14, 2021, 10:20:29 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 14, 2021, 04:13:31 PM
Why wouldn't turning that "Divided Highway Ends" sign upside down and making it into a "Divided Highway Begins" sign not be appropriate? True, it's not a white "Keep Right" sign but it would be functionally appropriate if it was mounted correctly.

It's the legal semantics surrounding MUTCD.  A railroad crossing crossbuck sign must be preceded by a railroad crossing warning sign.  Back in my first years of railroading, accidents occurring at a grade crossing with deficient signage could be proven as negligent.  When my railroad decided to quit rolling over in lawsuits, we were constantly reminded to get deficient or incorrect signage replaced.
Heh.  One of the difficulties NYSDOT has found in dealing with CSX is their mentality is that accidents are what lawyers are for, rather than taking cheap measures to prevent such (e.g., flaggers and the like).

KYTC has issues with CSX, too. It's very frustrating.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 15, 2021, 03:44:51 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)

This also looks like an example of excessive signage for something so minor. Do we really need a sign saying 15% grade on a road like this?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 15, 2021, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 15, 2021, 03:44:51 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)

This also looks like an example of excessive signage for something so minor. Do we really need a sign saying 15% grade on a road like this?

I just drove up the road myself, totally incidentally, a few days ago (as I mentioned a couple posts back). I think it's warranted, as it's the only road to reach four apartment buildings so trucks and whatnot will be using it. It's also very back-and-forth.

Here's the location: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5054247,-122.1990036,397m/data=!3m1!1e3

Street View: https://goo.gl/maps/om67SKFaPq5phq8dA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on October 16, 2021, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 15, 2021, 03:44:51 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 12, 2021, 10:31:17 PM
So you're saying this installation is wrong?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50500425997_561c7fdba5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jWxTeX)

This also looks like an example of excessive signage for something so minor. Do we really need a sign saying 15% grade on a road like this?

Technically compliant, since it is warning of the division ending ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 17, 2021, 02:36:12 AM
Last turn off before the highway ends...in 8 miles.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/SR_109_services_sign_near_terminus_on_Quinault_Reservation_near_Taholah%2C_WA.jpg/1280px-SR_109_services_sign_near_terminus_on_Quinault_Reservation_near_Taholah%2C_WA.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 17, 2021, 03:29:38 AM
Quote from: Bruce on October 17, 2021, 02:36:12 AM
Last turn off before the highway ends...in 8 miles.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/SR_109_services_sign_near_terminus_on_Quinault_Reservation_near_Taholah%2C_WA.jpg/1280px-SR_109_services_sign_near_terminus_on_Quinault_Reservation_near_Taholah%2C_WA.jpg)

plus, you can get gas, food, and taholah there. i hate it when i run out of taholah.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 17, 2021, 10:52:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/bCWs1ZeGBfqPVwXT9
This I-95 guide on Tremont Avenue in The Bronx is cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 17, 2021, 06:30:11 PM
Ok, not really a sign, but close enough.

https://twitter.com/maybeifollowyou/status/1449854559220809730?s=21
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on October 17, 2021, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 17, 2021, 06:30:11 PM
Ok, not really a sign, but close enough.

https://twitter.com/maybeifollowyou/status/1449854559220809730?s=21

Nobody tell the FHWA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on October 17, 2021, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2021, 10:52:35 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/bCWs1ZeGBfqPVwXT9
This I-95 guide on Tremont Avenue in The Bronx is cool.

Oakland says S'up? (https://goo.gl/maps/fr4CaCS4ZxWtBSFT7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on October 18, 2021, 04:51:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 17, 2021, 06:30:11 PM
Ok, not really a sign, but close enough.

There are also mile markers along Watkins Glen denoting the route of the 1940's road course:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50400332768_2dca2a2271_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jMGT1C)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50401028476_b3325fa886_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jMLrPA)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on October 19, 2021, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 17, 2021, 06:30:11 PM
Ok, not really a sign, but close enough.

https://twitter.com/maybeifollowyou/status/1449854559220809730?s=21

Never in my wildest dreams would I think my two obsessions (sports uniforms and highways) would collide, and their respective sites.  I am an avid uniwatch reader. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 19, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Does anywhere else use these "there is a highway crossing which briefly multiplexes" arrows that are all over the place in PEI?

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FZF7h28/PEI.png)

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 19, 2021, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on October 19, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Does anywhere else use these "there is a highway crossing which briefly multiplexes" arrows that are all over the place in PEI?

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FZF7h28/PEI.png)

Chris

Wow, nice!!!


The only thing I can think of being remotely close to that are these signs VDOT sometimes use when a secondary route multiplexes with a primary one. This is on US 258 in Isle Of Wight County.

Image from GSV

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211019/540cff501f6cad3b30e8b2959f8c0a6f.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on October 19, 2021, 01:49:40 PM
I've seen plenty like that, but had never seen the PEI version.  They're all over the place as a whole lot of the provincial highways overlap very briefly when intersecting.

Chris
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 19, 2021, 02:11:42 PM
I'm really liking those PEI signs. I'm not sure if you can even find those in the US. I've seen a lot of signs like the one I posted in the states as well (I should've said the closet to me when I posted it)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 19, 2021, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on October 19, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Does anywhere else use these "there is a highway crossing which briefly multiplexes" arrows that are all over the place in PEI?

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FZF7h28/PEI.png)

Chris

LITERALLY earlier today I was looking around Tallahassee on Google Street View and found pretty much the same arrows. I was gonna post it in here and saw that someone else already did lol

(https://i.imgur.com/jyHDTqn.jpeg)

(Google Street View) (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6654007,-84.2615658,3a,21.8y,13.36h,82.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQUTSCKG5Nq2NkFu6L94G5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 19, 2021, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on October 19, 2021, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on October 19, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Does anywhere else use these "there is a highway crossing which briefly multiplexes" arrows that are all over the place in PEI?

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FZF7h28/PEI.png)

Chris

LITERALLY earlier today I was looking around Tallahassee on Google Street View and found pretty much the same arrows. I was gonna post it in here and saw that someone else already did lol

(https://i.imgur.com/jyHDTqn.jpeg)

(Google Street View) (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6654007,-84.2615658,3a,21.8y,13.36h,82.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQUTSCKG5Nq2NkFu6L94G5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I stand corrected! Are there any more there?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 20, 2021, 11:42:53 PM
Rather unique "yield on green" sign that I spotted in Vancouver. Right outside Waterfront Station, westbound on Cordova at Granville (https://goo.gl/maps/YXbq4GjdocTP4ZvV8). I walked off the Canada Line, and it was staring me in the face. Never noticed it before, despite having been installed in 2004.

"Yield on Green" signs aren't that unusual in BC (mainly used at unique intersections), but the addition of a symbolic 4-section left turn signal seems so over the top that it's, honestly, brilliant. I assume it was inspired by the symbolic 'no turn on red' signs used elsewhere, which also use a signal symbol (although the standard design for that sign is a 3-section signal).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51611521338_3243d379b7_o.jpg)
Unique "Yield on Green" Sign (https://flic.kr/p/2mCJxbb) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 21, 2021, 03:37:06 AM
Two forest route signs:

(https://i.imgur.com/MTK5BpF.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1bf31Lh.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 21, 2021, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: plain on October 19, 2021, 05:10:36 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on October 19, 2021, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on October 19, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Does anywhere else use these "there is a highway crossing which briefly multiplexes" arrows that are all over the place in PEI?

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FZF7h28/PEI.png)

Chris

LITERALLY earlier today I was looking around Tallahassee on Google Street View and found pretty much the same arrows. I was gonna post it in here and saw that someone else already did lol

(https://i.imgur.com/jyHDTqn.jpeg)

(Google Street View) (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6654007,-84.2615658,3a,21.8y,13.36h,82.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQUTSCKG5Nq2NkFu6L94G5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

I stand corrected! Are there any more there?

No idea, I just saw the one there, although I didn't look that much.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 21, 2021, 07:08:54 PM
I love those little baby USFS shields. I do have an NF 30 in my collection, but it's Scotchlite on wood, not sheet metal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 21, 2021, 11:17:30 PM
Teeny tiny text on this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/Fn6U81g.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 12:36:10 AM
Quote from: Bruce on October 21, 2021, 11:17:30 PM
Teeny tiny text on this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/Fn6U81g.jpeg)

That small text belongs on a plaque, not the road sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 22, 2021, 03:22:18 PM
What do you want to bet the enabling legislation required a sign with that exact text?

Memorial highway legislation in Oklahoma never just leaves it at naming a route. It mandates that ODOT posts a sign too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: snowc on October 22, 2021, 03:55:17 PM
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/7/28/proc/3747117_c258d381f2532d7d457157ed125648be.jpg)
Another good example of a weird sign.
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/10/16/proc/3877497_acc895ecf1de9bec7933ecf500234b56.jpg)
and also a nonstandard sign for an all way stop ahead. :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
Quote from: snowc on October 22, 2021, 03:55:17 PM

(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/10/16/proc/3877497_acc895ecf1de9bec7933ecf500234b56.jpg)
and also a nonstandard sign for an all way stop ahead. :ded:

Ironically, having the STOP (well, ARRÊT) text inside the stop ahead sign is the standard in Québec (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.81586,-71.0113406,3a,15y,118.39h,87.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNb5xq2zlkHtnEEDvyJweVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 22, 2021, 07:27:39 PM
Quote from: snowc on October 22, 2021, 03:55:17 PM
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/7/28/proc/3747117_c258d381f2532d7d457157ed125648be.jpg)
Another good example of a weird sign.
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/10/16/proc/3877497_acc895ecf1de9bec7933ecf500234b56.jpg)
and also a nonstandard sign for an all way stop ahead. :ded:
What's weird about the Onondaga Nation sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
I just found Comic Sans on a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3591377,-72.0098291,3a,15y,83.03h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ipLVJeXpeObPvZkYDO4_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on October 22, 2021, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: plain on October 19, 2021, 01:47:54 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on October 19, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Does anywhere else use these "there is a highway crossing which briefly multiplexes" arrows that are all over the place in PEI?



Chris

Wow, nice!!!


The only thing I can think of being remotely close to that are these signs VDOT sometimes use when a secondary route multiplexes with a primary one. This is on US 258 in Isle Of Wight County.



Yes...the 'L' shaped arrow is commonplace throughout.

The closest Virginia has to a double arrow like the PEI example is a vertical version, on the Eastern Shore:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvahighways.com%2Fmultiplex%2F178n-180ebsplit2.jpg&hash=fb97d00d4a2403b91d55dfa3882cd4ac30e39fd4)
April 2007

A different arrow marker in Virginia that I've only seen in a couple places is shown here:

https://goo.gl/maps/r8f7cydbCCmU3REn9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 22, 2021, 10:12:05 PM
These signs are unique and I have not see some differences in other states using them except for Georgia (although on a more condensed font)..

These were used between the 70s and 90s.

What I can really notice is the lowercase a, t, and capital R. The capital R looks like a Gotham font R...

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8292018,-78.2896304,3a,15y,328.83h,93.68t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sxOnVSJ1ymEeTeo0OBEau9A!2e0!5s20210901T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5625139,-78.1827078,3a,15y,92.78h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxsq8ZcZOLdFNN3d0tfEwDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5995358,-82.553566,3a,33.7y,56.59h,102.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5KIwfi1Hd6Gs4DfZjuzu-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2732972,-80.8363112,3a,15y,9.18h,99.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spe8BeDZ4t1qar3CCkWtydQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I'm sure those type of signs AND button copy ones were used at the same time...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 22, 2021, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
Quote from: snowc on October 22, 2021, 03:55:17 PM

(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2021/10/16/proc/3877497_acc895ecf1de9bec7933ecf500234b56.jpg)
and also a nonstandard sign for an all way stop ahead. :ded:

Ironically, having the STOP (well, ARRÊT) text inside the stop ahead sign is the standard in Québec (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.81586,-71.0113406,3a,15y,118.39h,87.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNb5xq2zlkHtnEEDvyJweVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Don't like it...it makes it look cartoonish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 23, 2021, 02:26:06 PM
A sign that gets updated every week: https://twitter.com/NicholeLMorris/status/1451321809488449537
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 23, 2021, 03:39:11 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 22, 2021, 08:24:23 PM
A different arrow marker in Virginia that I've only seen in a couple places is shown here:

https://goo.gl/maps/r8f7cydbCCmU3REn9

Nice! I think I've seen one of these in Louisa County back in the day
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 23, 2021, 03:41:20 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 22, 2021, 08:24:23 PM
A different arrow marker in Virginia that I've only seen in a couple places is shown here:

https://goo.gl/maps/r8f7cydbCCmU3REn9

I wouldn't mind if these became standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on October 23, 2021, 03:53:53 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 22, 2021, 10:12:05 PM

I'm sure those type of signs AND button copy ones were used at the same time...


These perhaps...?

http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/oldsigns/old29a.jpg

http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i385at85-krakoff.jpg

http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i77s-exit19-18-curley.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 23, 2021, 04:32:11 PM
https://www.aaroads.com/guides/us-169-south-kansas-city-mo/#gallery-59
The button copy shield for I-35 North was neat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on October 23, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 23, 2021, 03:53:53 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on October 22, 2021, 10:12:05 PM

I'm sure those type of signs AND button copy ones were used at the same time...


These perhaps...?

http://www.gribblenation.com/ncpics/oldsigns/old29a.jpg

http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i385at85-krakoff.jpg

http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i77s-exit19-18-curley.jpg
Yeah
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on October 24, 2021, 02:50:44 AM
All of these zig-zag arrows make me think of this weird one (https://www.google.com/maps/@46.2704843,-118.1550262,3a,40.7y,81.05h,88.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s309nYGy_h5DPSCuo5XNmuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) in Eastern Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 24, 2021, 09:32:13 PM
As it is my 420th post, I wanna remind people of the infamous I-70 Mile 419.99 sign, and I show it here in the oldest Street View imagery because it too was stolen since:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2943907,-102.5924684,3a,15y,141.98h,87.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1se27hjL_RFQT8oMqf82_jDQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 25, 2021, 02:47:22 AM
Right turn only, unless you're small enough to make a tight left turn.

(Location: SE 37th Street in Bellevue, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/QREgWrcL2L6LqKf98))

(https://i.imgur.com/Njf1m2a.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 25, 2021, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 25, 2021, 02:47:22 AM
Right turn only, unless you're small enough to make a tight left turn.

(Location: SE 37th Street in Bellevue, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/QREgWrcL2L6LqKf98))

(https://i.imgur.com/Njf1m2a.png)

I love that. I remember turning left there before, not being sure if I was able to do it or not until after I made the turn. Seems to me that you have to line up for the left properly; approach at more of a "merging" angle and you're screwed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 25, 2021, 01:06:37 PM
Why not a "TRUCK" banner with a No Left Turn sign instead?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 25, 2021, 01:25:27 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 25, 2021, 01:06:37 PM
Why not a "TRUCK" banner with a No Left Turn sign instead?

I think because even larger passenger cars can't make the turn without having approached properly. Small hatchbacks and other compact cars can make it, but like a Suburban or even Sequoia would have trouble.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 25, 2021, 02:41:46 PM
Quote from: Bruce on October 25, 2021, 02:47:22 AM
Right turn only, unless you're small enough to make a tight left turn.

(Location: SE 37th Street in Bellevue, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/QREgWrcL2L6LqKf98))

(https://i.imgur.com/Njf1m2a.png)

Wonder if anybody turned left into the path of oncoming traffic instead of jumping the median?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on October 25, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
I just found Comic Sans on a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3591377,-72.0098291,3a,15y,83.03h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ipLVJeXpeObPvZkYDO4_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).
Thanks, I hate it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on October 25, 2021, 11:07:55 PM
Does Washington have a special definition for "passenger vehicle"  in its driving laws? Or would we use a common definition that would include a bus?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 25, 2021, 11:39:59 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on October 25, 2021, 11:07:55 PM
Does Washington have a special definition for "passenger vehicle"  in its driving laws? Or would we use a common definition that would include a bus?

It does, yes: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.04.382

Quote from: RCW 46.04.382
"Passenger car" means every motor vehicle except motorcycles and motor-driven cycles, designed for carrying ten passengers or less and used for the transportation of persons.

So, apparently, motorcycles are not permitted to turn left. :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 26, 2021, 06:37:14 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 25, 2021, 11:39:59 PM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on October 25, 2021, 11:07:55 PM
Does Washington have a special definition for "passenger vehicle"  in its driving laws? Or would we use a common definition that would include a bus?

It does, yes: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.04.382

Quote from: RCW 46.04.382
"Passenger car" means every motor vehicle except motorcycles and motor-driven cycles, designed for carrying ten passengers or less and used for the transportation of persons.

So, apparently, motorcycles are not permitted to turn left. :-D

Motorcycles are passenger vehicles but not passenger cars.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 26, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 25, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
I just found Comic Sans on a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3591377,-72.0098291,3a,15y,83.03h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ipLVJeXpeObPvZkYDO4_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).
Thanks, I hate it.

Here's one in Virginia. (https://goo.gl/maps/S7b9kRxNFtBH9VvH6) Apparently at some point there was a problem with an inordinate number of turtles crossing the highway and a lady from Montgomery County was concerned about it and both designed and paid for the signs and their installation (total cost $3000). From what I understand, VDOT wasn't involved–whoever owned the Greenway at the time agreed to post the signs and they've remained up since then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 26, 2021, 10:14:17 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
I just found Comic Sans on a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3591377,-72.0098291,3a,15y,83.03h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ipLVJeXpeObPvZkYDO4_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 25, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Thanks, I hate it.

Quote from: 1995hoo on October 26, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
Here's one in Virginia. (https://goo.gl/maps/S7b9kRxNFtBH9VvH6) Apparently at some point there was a problem with an inordinate number of turtles crossing the highway and a lady from Montgomery County was concerned about it and both designed and paid for the signs and their installation (total cost $3000). From what I understand, VDOT wasn't involved–whoever owned the Greenway at the time agreed to post the signs and they've remained up since then.

I remember on one of my first trips on the Dulles Greenway having to slow down to avoid a lady out in the middle of the westbound lanes rescuing a box turtle.  Soon after, the signs went up and there was a lengthy front section article in the Washington Post.  Not sure if I witnessed the same person that started this campaign, but it was an interesting coincidence.  I'm surprised that those signs are still in such good shape.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 26, 2021, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on October 26, 2021, 10:14:17 AM
I remember on one of my first trips on the Dulles Greenway having to slow down to avoid a lady out in the middle of the westbound lanes rescuing a box turtle.  Soon after, the signs went up and there was a lengthy front section article in the Washington Post.  Not sure if I witnessed the same person that started this campaign, but it was an interesting coincidence.  I'm surprised that those signs are still in such good shape.

I wonder whether the addition of the Metro line in the median, which poses a rather large obstacle, might cause the turtles to stop trying to cross the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on October 26, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 26, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 25, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
I just found Comic Sans on a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3591377,-72.0098291,3a,15y,83.03h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ipLVJeXpeObPvZkYDO4_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).
Thanks, I hate it.

Here's one in Virginia. (https://goo.gl/maps/S7b9kRxNFtBH9VvH6) Apparently at some point there was a problem with an inordinate number of turtles crossing the highway and a lady from Montgomery County was concerned about it and both designed and paid for the signs and their installation (total cost $3000). From what I understand, VDOT wasn't involved–whoever owned the Greenway at the time agreed to post the signs and they've remained up since then.

Telling people to brake for turtles on a freeway sounds like a liability issue for DOT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 26, 2021, 12:29:40 PM
Probably mentioned before, but Comic Sans is used often when some version of tribal language is used as supplemental text on an English sign. I've seen this primarily in New York along I-86.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 26, 2021, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on October 26, 2021, 10:14:17 AM
I remember on one of my first trips on the Dulles Greenway having to slow down to avoid a lady out in the middle of the westbound lanes rescuing a box turtle.  Soon after, the signs went up and there was a lengthy front section article in the Washington Post.  Not sure if I witnessed the same person that started this campaign, but it was an interesting coincidence.  I'm surprised that those signs are still in such good shape.

Quote from: 1995hoo on October 26, 2021, 10:44:26 AM
I wonder whether the addition of the Metro line in the median, which poses a rather large obstacle, might cause the turtles to stop trying to cross the road.

Not likely.  Back then, most of the "turtle crossing" hot spots were just east of the Goose Creek bridge.  Nowadays, all of that greenspace is overdeveloped (Belmont Ridge, Goose Creek Village, Belmont Forest).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DrSmith on October 26, 2021, 08:15:03 PM
Not sure what to make of this one.... For a cross street, with arrows to the left and right?

https://goo.gl/maps/QMAwEpH2DxX71pcc7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 26, 2021, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: DrSmith on October 26, 2021, 08:15:03 PM
Not sure what to make of this one.... For a cross street, with arrows to the left and right?

https://goo.gl/maps/QMAwEpH2DxX71pcc7

If only there was a standard that everyone agreed on... /s
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 26, 2021, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on October 26, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 26, 2021, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on October 25, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 22, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
I just found Comic Sans on a road sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3591377,-72.0098291,3a,15y,83.03h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ipLVJeXpeObPvZkYDO4_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en).
Thanks, I hate it.

Here's one in Virginia. (https://goo.gl/maps/S7b9kRxNFtBH9VvH6) Apparently at some point there was a problem with an inordinate number of turtles crossing the highway and a lady from Montgomery County was concerned about it and both designed and paid for the signs and their installation (total cost $3000). From what I understand, VDOT wasn't involved–whoever owned the Greenway at the time agreed to post the signs and they've remained up since then.

Telling people to brake for turtles on a freeway sounds like a liability issue for DOT.

In fairness, the Virginia sign isn't actually Comic Sans (but I agree it's fugly).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 27, 2021, 07:43:01 AM
I never use Comic Sans or similar, so I can't really tell whether it is or isn't, but it sure looks like it to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 27, 2021, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 27, 2021, 07:43:01 AM
I never use Comic Sans or similar, so I can't really tell whether it is or isn't, but it sure looks like it to me.

In the case of the turtle sign in Virginia, it isn't:

(https://i.imgur.com/tybfUpv.png)

But in the case of the sign I found in Sherbrooke, it is:

(https://i.imgur.com/kg9Kk80.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 28, 2021, 01:51:58 AM
Found another double arrow sign (whatever they're called idk), here you go Chris.

located in Ripley, Mississippi (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.729364,-88.9462865,3a,15y,45.96h,88.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbiG_4i2B118gQSGU5NepfA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1)

(https://i.imgur.com/kivmHah.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 28, 2021, 02:28:00 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on October 28, 2021, 01:51:58 AM
Found another double arrow sign (whatever they're called idk), here you go Chris.

located in Ripley, Mississippi (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.729364,-88.9462865,3a,15y,45.96h,88.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbiG_4i2B118gQSGU5NepfA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1)

(https://i.imgur.com/kivmHah.jpeg)

I guess we could call them "PEI arrows" considering their widespread presence in Prince Edward Island.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:08:03 PM
At the intersection of North Road and Stolley Park Road in Grand Island, Nebraska, there's a stop sign with a plate below saying "OPPOSITE TRAFFIC MAY NOT STOP".
(https://i.imgur.com/acPVtn7.png)
Sounds scary, as if it is warning that oncoming traffic may run the stop sign in any direction.
It would sound better if it instead said "OPPOSITE TURNING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP".

On the other side, there's this plate below the stop sign, saying "RIGHT TURN NO STOP REQUIRED".
(https://i.imgur.com/ZWrKHyc.png)

I can see the railroad crossing as the reason for the setup. My guess is that the right turn without stopping is permitted because most traffic would be turning to stay on Stolley Park road. In other words, a TOTSO.
A bit redundant imo, as even without it, vehicles continuing straight would have to yield to cars from the right.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9019935,-98.3955777,3a,48.9y,96.37h,82.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siyXdhKhNzzCLKEbwp9Swjg!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 29, 2021, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:08:03 PM
At the intersection of North Road and Stolley Park Road in Grand Island, Nebraska, there's a stop sign with a plate below saying "OPPOSITE TRAFFIC MAY NOT STOP".
(https://i.imgur.com/acPVtn7.png)
Sounds scary, as if it is warning that oncoming traffic may run the stop sign in any direction.
It would sound better if it instead said "OPPOSITE TURNING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP".

I think that would be worse.  You could plow into an opposing vehicle turning left in front of you who didn't have his blinker on.

Hard to comment without knowing the full setup.  What's posted in the opposing direction and on the crossroad?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 29, 2021, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:08:03 PM
At the intersection of North Road and Stolley Park Road in Grand Island, Nebraska, there's a stop sign with a plate below saying "OPPOSITE TRAFFIC MAY NOT STOP".
(https://i.imgur.com/acPVtn7.png)
Sounds scary, as if it is warning that oncoming traffic may run the stop sign in any direction.
It would sound better if it instead said "OPPOSITE TURNING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP".

I think that would be worse.  You could plow into an opposing vehicle turning left in front of you who didn't have his blinker on.

Hard to comment without knowing the full setup.  What's posted in the opposing direction and on the crossroad?

It's a T-intersection. Traffic from the opposing direction has a STOP sign, with another sign below it saying "RIGHT TURN NO STOP REQUIRED".
From the first sign's direction, the ending road would be on the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on October 29, 2021, 06:47:52 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:08:03 PM
At the intersection of North Road and Stolley Park Road in Grand Island, Nebraska, there's a stop sign with a plate below saying "OPPOSITE TRAFFIC MAY NOT STOP".
(https://i.imgur.com/acPVtn7.png)
Sounds scary, as if it is warning that oncoming traffic may run the stop sign in any direction.
It would sound better if it instead said "OPPOSITE TURNING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP".

On the other side, there's this plate below the stop sign, saying "RIGHT TURN NO STOP REQUIRED".
(https://i.imgur.com/ZWrKHyc.png)

I can see the railroad crossing as the reason for the setup. My guess is that the right turn without stopping is permitted because most traffic would be turning to stay on Stolley Park road. In other words, a TOTSO.
A bit redundant imo, as even without it, vehicles continuing straight would have to yield to cars from the right.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9019935,-98.3955777,3a,48.9y,96.37h,82.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siyXdhKhNzzCLKEbwp9Swjg!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192

In my area, there's a few intersections with signs posted saying "INCOMING TRAFFIC DOES NOT STOP". Probably a better wording than "Opposite".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 29, 2021, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:08:03 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWrKHyc.png)

Hold on, is that a non-cutout stop sign?! Very RIDOT of them to do that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 10:47:23 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 29, 2021, 06:59:18 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on October 29, 2021, 12:08:03 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWrKHyc.png)

Hold on, is that a non-cutout stop sign?! Very RIDOT of them to do that.

It looks like a cutout stop sign to me, placed over the front of a black backing board.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on October 30, 2021, 12:42:10 AM
Here's the front facing version of that double arrows sign that I posted yesterday. I have a picture of this but it's in the background and the quality is... a bit questionable

(https://i.imgur.com/apzbhMu.jpeg)

Located at the intersection of AR 267 at US 67 B in Searcy. There isn't a double arrows sign for this intersection following US 67B north or southbound.

(https://i.imgur.com/iU52qjV.jpeg)

This is a picture that I took of this intersection following US 67B northbound on July 4, 2021.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on November 02, 2021, 03:52:17 AM
Green digits on this sign at SR 16 and SR 160 in Port Orchard, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/KGvEXDV.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on November 02, 2021, 11:44:38 AM
^^^

I have seen a number of West Virginia county route markers, both old and new, with green digits instead of black ones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 04, 2021, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 02, 2021, 03:52:17 AM
Green digits on this sign at SR 16 and SR 160 in Port Orchard, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/KGvEXDV.jpeg)

The sign also has some odd layout choices. The "west" is more top-aligned to the shield but the "east" is middle-aligned to the shield, and the horizontal separation between the direction and shield varies between the two. Washington's head in the lower section is very close to that horizontal line...possibly because the right-facing arrow is jammed between shield/direction and "Tacoma" text, instead of being set to the right of that whole message block (and having ample space to lay it out that way).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on November 04, 2021, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: roadfro on November 04, 2021, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 02, 2021, 03:52:17 AM
Green digits on this sign at SR 16 and SR 160 in Port Orchard, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/KGvEXDV.jpeg)

The sign also has some odd layout choices. The "west" is more top-aligned to the shield but the "east" is middle-aligned to the shield, and the horizontal separation between the direction and shield varies between the two. Washington's head in the lower section is very close to that horizontal line...possibly because the right-facing arrow is jammed between shield/direction and "Tacoma" text, instead of being set to the right of that whole message block (and having ample space to lay it out that way).

i'd say for the lower half, the positioning of "EAST" is consistent with the upper half; if the shield was shifted down to be top-aligned with EAST, it would look far more "normal".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 04, 2021, 04:28:36 PM
The sign above is in WSDOT's Olympic Region. I find that their decision choices are often very odd compared to the rest of the state. There seems to be a lot of signs where the elements are laid out in such a way that some elements are needlessly cramped.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ari-s-drives on November 05, 2021, 01:38:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ume4yEO.jpg)
speed checked by laser (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3606866,-122.1257492,3a,15y,69.31h,84.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-sjCI3aDa2vyrJjsmw8M8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 05, 2021, 04:55:32 AM
Quote from: ari-s-drives on November 05, 2021, 01:38:21 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Ume4yEO.jpg)
speed checked by laser (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3606866,-122.1257492,3a,15y,69.31h,84.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-sjCI3aDa2vyrJjsmw8M8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

They meant a laser speed gun. It's similar in operation to a radar gun, but uses lidar instead of a radar.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 09, 2021, 10:56:30 AM
Odd that 29th Street gets its description but Hydraulic Street doesn't.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51666650100_87125bcb87_k.jpg)

Looks like Hydraulic is a control city served by 29th Street.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 09, 2021, 02:25:43 PM
No, clearly, it's Hydraulic 29th St, right next to Aerodynamic 28th St.  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 09, 2021, 02:30:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 09, 2021, 10:56:30 AM
Odd that 29th Street gets its description but Hydraulic Street doesn't.

It's Wichita; it's more weird when they do post the street type.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 09, 2021, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 09, 2021, 10:56:30 AMOdd that 29th Street gets its description but Hydraulic Street doesn't.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51666650100_87125bcb87_k.jpg)

Looks like Hydraulic is a control city served by 29th Street.

Those signs were installed circa 1998 and replaced as part of a sign refurbishment several years ago.  Here are the ones currently in place (StreetView imagery date of August 2019):

(https://i.imgur.com/Q0e7r6b.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7396266,-97.3188202,3a,75y,345.25h,91.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sec-2peDWBv9nS-5Q3IVTKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

The replacement was designed to provide Street/Avenue/Road/etc. identifiers where they were missing and covered nearly all large panel signs on I-135, I-235, and K-96 in Wichita, but left Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400) untouched.  Many of the signs on it thus lack the generic portion of the crossroad name.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 09, 2021, 04:08:45 PM
Some of hyphen H-1 shields I found in O'ahu:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51668199058_8d1692b331_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mHK2uf)H1Ih (https://flic.kr/p/2mHK2uf) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51668843935_ab51aed601_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mHNkbP)H1Ik (https://flic.kr/p/2mHNkbP) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51667168302_54337215e0_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mHDK5A)H1Ih (https://flic.kr/p/2mHDK5A) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

Also found a reference to HI 78 on a sign also displaying Intertate H-201 at Pearl Harbor:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51667168427_fba8c087a1_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mHDK7K)H1Ig (https://flic.kr/p/2mHDK7K) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 09, 2021, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 09, 2021, 04:08:45 PM
Also found a reference to HI 78 on a sign also displaying Intertate H-201 at Pearl Harbor:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51667168427_fba8c087a1_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mHDK7K)H1Ig (https://flic.kr/p/2mHDK7K) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr

With that shield shape, it might be NJ 78, which would be the longest distance for a trailblazer.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 12, 2021, 05:34:18 AM
Northbound traffic does not stop.
(https://i.imgur.com/yoGwWr0.png)
I wonder why that was used, instead of the expected "TRAFFIC FROM LEFT DOES NOT STOP"?

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1516492,-117.302963,3a,15y,268.63h,89.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sroTjMl8Db97JN6L-TcOnXQ!2e0!5s20180301T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 12, 2021, 05:40:17 AM
A "DO NOT ENTER" text sign. Pretty strange. I don't see why they couldn't use sign R5-1.
(https://i.imgur.com/2fhxwG8.png)

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8487797,-81.9918803,3a,33.5y,113.66h,83.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqqRhfSicFpga9uQLWVX0ig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 12, 2021, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on November 09, 2021, 03:39:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 09, 2021, 10:56:30 AMOdd that 29th Street gets its description but Hydraulic Street doesn’t.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51666650100_87125bcb87_k.jpg)

Looks like Hydraulic is a control city served by 29th Street.

Those signs were installed circa 1998 and replaced as part of a sign refurbishment several years ago.  Here are the ones currently in place (StreetView imagery date of August 2019):

(https://i.imgur.com/Q0e7r6b.png) (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7396266,-97.3188202,3a,75y,345.25h,91.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sec-2peDWBv9nS-5Q3IVTKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

The replacement was designed to provide Street/Avenue/Road/etc. identifiers where they were missing and covered nearly all large panel signs on I-135, I-235, and K-96 in Wichita, but left Kellogg Avenue (US 54-400) untouched.  Many of the signs on it thus lack the generic portion of the crossroad name.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51669856312_cc50978ed5_k.jpg)

I thought Armour was a place until I looked at a map. The line item between the shopping center driveway/ Armour and Woodlawn is confusing.
Also Kellogg still signs Hillside, Rock, Grove, etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 12, 2021, 11:36:12 AM
Why not add Southwest Blvd in the empty space above it?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51674375520_4f0fb17535_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 12, 2021, 02:55:47 PM
Presumably that space was originally occupied by a shield of some kind (I'm sure J.N. could tell us what it was).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 12, 2021, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 12, 2021, 11:24:12 AM(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51669856312_cc50978ed5_k.jpg)

I thought Armour was a place until I looked at a map. The line item between the shopping center driveway/ Armour and Woodlawn is confusing.

Also Kellogg still signs Hillside, Rock, Grove, etc.

Towne East Drive, which runs from Kellogg to Douglas, was originally part of Armour Street.  I suspect Simon Property Group (which owns the mall) of having engineered the renaming in effect to obtain free advertising, since malls don't qualify for traffic generator signing in Kansas.

The ruled line between the Towne East Drive/Armour and Woodlawn blocks is designed to convey that they are separate intersections, but this is admittedly not of much help to stranger drivers, and other signs in town that also use ruled lines don't necessarily follow the same grouping rule (e.g. "Ridge Rd, Dugan Rd/Eisenhower Natl Airport" (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6721703,-97.4340507,3a,28.8y,75.75h,92.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2lKDkezLXI1g0cKILk1GSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) rather than "Ridge Rd, Eisenhower Natl Airport/Dugan Rd").

Much of the signing on Kellogg is original to construction of the various interchanges and is due for replacement.

Quote from: roadman65 on November 12, 2021, 11:36:12 AMWhy not add Southwest Blvd in the empty space above it?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51674375520_4f0fb17535_k.jpg)

That sign is now gone, (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6744142,-97.3777592,3a,75y,79.7h,94.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMunwYHCbo5uvHxG5EAoW_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) since it was replaced as part of upgrading I-235/US 54 from a cloverleaf to a stack/turban hybrid.

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2021, 02:55:47 PMPresumably that space was originally occupied by a shield of some kind (I'm sure J.N. could tell us what it was).

It held shields for K-2 and K-42, both of which used to terminate at Kellogg.  In the 1990's, K-2 was pruned back to Suppesville (west end of the former K-2/K-42 overlap that ended in Wichita) and K-42 to its interchange with I-235.  An erroneous K-2 shield persisted (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6283165,-97.3604817,3a,43.3y,252.64h,93.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPCcaAW5uh0aiPP_8fl0bPg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) on an I-235 interchange sequence sign for almost 20 years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 12, 2021, 07:10:04 PM
Virgin Acres Blvd., Beaver Dam AZ. Hand-lettered but, I can definitely confirm, 100% justified and accurate.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y00j8G8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 12, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on November 12, 2021, 07:10:04 PM
Virgin Acres Blvd., Beaver Dam AZ. Hand-lettered but, I can definitely confirm, 100% justified and accurate.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y00j8G8.jpg)
This looks like an old alignment of something... but is it one?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on November 12, 2021, 07:47:47 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 12, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
This looks like an old alignment of something... but is it one?

Highly unlikely, but I suppose it's remotely possible that it somehow connected with "Old Pioneer Road" at the bottom of the mostly-impassable bluff. I don't see anything that indicates this was ever part of US 91, though.

Conversely, however, the name "Old Pioneer Road" certainly suggests some type of historical alignment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on November 15, 2021, 09:36:27 AM
Well this is certainly unique...

https://goo.gl/maps/pbw7q7mA43Yfo6CK7

From the placement, it looks like it is referring to the split between the thru and turn lanes, but it is possible that it is referencing the signalized intersection ahead, which has a similar shape.

Almost certainly gone now due to the Pensacola bay bridge replacement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on November 15, 2021, 10:47:38 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 12, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on November 12, 2021, 07:10:04 PM
Virgin Acres Blvd., Beaver Dam AZ. Hand-lettered but, I can definitely confirm, 100% justified and accurate.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y00j8G8.jpg)
This looks like an old alignment of something... but is it one?

It's close to Old US 91 but isn't.  Old US 91 was in just as bad of shape until it was repaved on both sides of the state line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 17, 2021, 01:22:59 AM
A rectangle arrow used in place of a turn sign on TN-22: https://goo.gl/maps/C31eWjsWAB237j2n7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 17, 2021, 10:32:54 PM
This one speed limit sign is more of a public service message.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51688327284_0f53ffb947_k.jpg)
Park City, Kansas.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on November 18, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 17, 2021, 10:32:54 PM
This one speed limit sign is more of a public service message.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51688327284_0f53ffb947_k.jpg)
Park City, Kansas.

Lexington, KY uses graphical speed limit signs to supplement regulatory ones. They use several different designs. Here are two (directly across from one another): https://goo.gl/maps/xJ68HKDjqpNciNz79
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on November 19, 2021, 02:43:40 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...
Sure it is.  If you fail to go 25 and a kid dies as a result, expect a citation and a point on your driving record.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 19, 2021, 03:21:36 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on November 19, 2021, 02:43:40 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...
Sure it is.  If you fail to go 25 and a kid dies as a result, expect a citation and a point on your driving record.

...which could then be taken to court and thrown out on the basis of the sign not complying with the MUTCD. May not work for any actual crimes you're charged with for running over a pedestrian, but people have absolutely gotten traffic tickets dismissed that way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 19, 2021, 05:41:17 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on November 19, 2021, 02:43:40 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...
Sure it is.  If you fail to go 25 and a kid dies as a result, expect a citation and a point on your driving record.

Just a citation, for KILLING a kid?? In Russia the driver would've gotten prison time, regardless if it's the kid's fault or not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 19, 2021, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 19, 2021, 05:41:17 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on November 19, 2021, 02:43:40 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...
Sure it is.  If you fail to go 25 and a kid dies as a result, expect a citation and a point on your driving record.

Just a citation, for KILLING a kid?? In Russia the driver would've gotten prison time, regardless if it's the kid's fault or not.

The American system usually tries to determine fault in an accident and proceeds with guilt or innocence of any crimes, and whose insurance is responsible for paying any claims, accordingly. If you're doing under the speed limit and a kid steps into the street 10 feet ahead of you, there is nothing any driver on Earth could have done to actually react and avoid the collision. That person would probably not even get a citation. If you're doing 70 mph (110 km/h) on a residential street and run over a kid, then you can expect jail time.

American trials usually have a jury determining innocence or guilt, not a judge (who only referees the trial and determines the sentence if the jury finds the defendant guilty). If a reasonable person is likely to think that the driver was not at fault, the state is unlikely to even charge the driver with a crime because it would be a huge waste of time and money to go through the process of taking the matter to court just to get an inevitable not-guilty finding.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 20, 2021, 03:24:24 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 19, 2021, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 19, 2021, 05:41:17 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on November 19, 2021, 02:43:40 AM
Quote from: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...
Sure it is.  If you fail to go 25 and a kid dies as a result, expect a citation and a point on your driving record.

Just a citation, for KILLING a kid?? In Russia the driver would've gotten prison time, regardless if it's the kid's fault or not.
If you're doing 70 mph (110 km/h) on a residential street and run over a kid, then you can expect jail time.

That's exactly what I was saying would happen in that case, which is the most common out of all the situations in that case. No matter if the kid jumped out in front of the speeder, or if the speeder ran over him.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on November 21, 2021, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: roadfro on November 18, 2021, 10:58:02 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 18, 2021, 01:11:03 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 18, 2021, 12:40:07 AM
Doesn't even look like a speed limit to me. Could just be advisory.
In America, a white rectangle signifies that it is a regulatory sign.

Regulatory color scheme, but that's not really a regulatory message...

It should have to be correctly formatted to be valid.  Other than the number, SPEED LIMIT is not designable when it comes to adornments, omitting words, etc. 

Locally, I remember asking about this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/tGndYJt9RoXuP6uG8) over 10 years ago which was put up by the university on what may be a road owned by the university now or still owned by Akron--who knows.  It's tiny, non-reflective, and nonstandard, and therefore not really enforceable.  But they have doubled down with a "Your Speed" sign ahead of that which frowns if you are above 25 and flashes "slow down" if you are above 30.  Still, there is no actual speed limit sign. 

The missing streetlight at a busy crosswalk, which is pitch black when outside of daytime hours, ought to have been fixed but instead we have these crazy signs.

It's worth noting they are capable of fixing inappropriate signs.  This one (https://goo.gl/maps/3sSBFF6kfpacZV6T6) had forever been "15 MPH" in red Helvetica on white until August 2019 when small but correct signs replaced it (facing both ways).  They should have ordered a 25 one for the other location while they were at it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 22, 2021, 12:48:23 AM
This one to denote a right lane must turn right is not MUTCD compliant.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51696979738_b5ebf56d89_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 22, 2021, 03:32:52 AM
The weirdest sign I've ever seen in real life is this one:
(https://i.imgur.com/sBbp9Rq.png)
It's an "advisory speed limit", but for some reason has a "Your speed" display. Every time we drove past it, it was disabled.
It would make sense if it was an actual maximum speed limit, but I don't understand why it is here.
It's located here: https://www.google.ru/maps/@55.9718966,92.7872783,3a,66.5y,254.58h,91.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRaKsICzdKAuMZE9PJ5Qu3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 22, 2021, 05:16:00 PM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on November 22, 2021, 03:32:52 AM
The weirdest sign I've ever seen in real life is this one:
(https://i.imgur.com/sBbp9Rq.png)
It's an "advisory speed limit", but for some reason has a "Your speed" display. Every time we drove past it, it was disabled.
It would make sense if it was an actual maximum speed limit, but I don't understand why it is here.
It's located here: https://www.google.ru/maps/@55.9718966,92.7872783,3a,66.5y,254.58h,91.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRaKsICzdKAuMZE9PJ5Qu3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

There is a similar type of sign (https://goo.gl/maps/8bAaVMjSZ85PYiYc7) that was installed along Waller Rd in Tacoma, WA for a couple years. Gone now;

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51699303375_bff94ff6d5_o.png)
Curve warning with "your speed" sign (https://flic.kr/p/2mLurHz) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 22, 2021, 05:47:18 PM
↑ Was that for sure a "your speed" sign? The way it's below a curve sign and having a yellow background, I'd assume it was a variable advisory speed if I never saw it on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 22, 2021, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 22, 2021, 12:48:23 AM
This one to denote a right lane must turn right is not MUTCD compliant.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51696979738_b5ebf56d89_k.jpg)

Where is this? Judging by the sign on the far left (can't see what's on it) it looks like the end of some kind of freeway or something
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 22, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
A Québec-standard three-way stop plate, but with "ARRÊT STOP" instead of just "ARRÊT" or "STOP":

(https://i.imgur.com/TXWgpoL.jpg)

(Original size (https://i.imgur.com/TXWgpoL.jpg))

Also worth noting is the fact that this ARRÊT STOP is newer than 2001, which is the year where the classic bilingual sign was changed to ARRÊT or STOP. But since this is federal property (Port de Québec), they can do whatever they want.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on November 22, 2021, 11:38:08 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 22, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
Also worth noting is the fact that this ARRÊT STOP is newer than 2001, which is the year where the classic bilingual sign was changed to ARRÊT or STOP. But since this is federal property (Port de Québec), they can do whatever they want.

I'm surprised the bilingual signs stuck around that long.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on November 23, 2021, 03:41:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2021, 05:47:18 PM
↑ Was that for sure a "your speed" sign? The way it's below a curve sign and having a yellow background, I'd assume it was a variable advisory speed if I never saw it on.
It says "ВАША СКОРОСТЬ" which means "YOUR SPEED".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 23, 2021, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Sounds like a way to cause even more traffic than usual when a train crosses.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 23, 2021, 08:14:03 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 22, 2021, 05:47:18 PM
↑ Was that for sure a "your speed" sign? The way it's below a curve sign and having a yellow background, I'd assume it was a variable advisory speed if I never saw it on.

In case you were referring to my photo, it was definitely a "your speed" sign as it showing my speed and it was often blinking. The limit is 35 along that road, and the corner has no specific advisory limit because of that. But because traffic along that road frequently exceeds the posted limit (50+ is not uncommon), they installed that sign to, apparently, alert traffic that they may be going a bit quick for the corner.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 23, 2021, 08:37:20 PM
I thought the sign on the right was pretty ugly. For some reason, despite having less information than the sign on the left, it's slightly taller. And then everything is on one line, making it cramped, despite all of that extra green space.

In reality, the sign on the left is a bit newer, and was made only as tall as necessary. The old sign (https://goo.gl/maps/9eXCQKkhKXEnUp9b8) for that exit, an exit-only sign, was the same height as the sign on the right. Still, the cramping. Yuck.

https://goo.gl/maps/NcvMYDQ71qSowcd2A

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51700933866_2d50e6f011_o.png)
I-405 NB, Totem Lake, WA (https://flic.kr/p/2mLCNpu) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 23, 2021, 08:45:49 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 23, 2021, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Sounds like a way to cause even more traffic than usual when a train crosses.

Makes me think the trains are moving pretty slow through here. Given the length of most freight trains, that could be a pretty long wait.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on November 23, 2021, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

A more concise version of the suggestion. (https://goo.gl/maps/6TvWMdGUEkpqj9FXA)  (BC 99 to WA crossing.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 23, 2021, 10:27:53 PM
Not actual signs yet, but they'll be coming in the next couple years with the reconstruction of I-96 in western Oakland County, MI:  SIGNAL AHEAD paired with exit-only arrows.  This is a SPUI interchange.  Similar planned for Beck Road, also a SPUI interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/jTZdHAH.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 24, 2021, 01:27:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/B9owPfyh7tTzM8Sv6

Still to this day Essex County won't correct the route error here. It's supposed to be I-280 not I-287 on this truck guide sign here.

Trucks are banned on Livingston Avenue north of JFK parkway which exchanges with I-280 not I-287.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on November 24, 2021, 03:19:25 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on November 23, 2021, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

A more concise version of the suggestion. (https://goo.gl/maps/6TvWMdGUEkpqj9FXA)  (BC 99 to WA crossing.)

And a ferry version of the sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/NGPIl2G.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on November 27, 2021, 06:44:59 PM
Flashing yellow lights on a green Entering City and yellow traffic warning sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/BHPC5p5s5LjqaRGY8)  I know you're not supposed to combine regulatory signs with anything else, but there are no rules against warning sign combos.  At night having flashing lights on top of yellow at the bottom looked like it was going to be a Highway Advisory Radio sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 27, 2021, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on November 27, 2021, 06:44:59 PM
Flashing yellow lights on a green Entering City and yellow traffic warning sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/BHPC5p5s5LjqaRGY8)  I know you're not supposed to combine regulatory signs with anything else, but there are no rules against warning sign combos.  At night having flashing lights on top of yellow at the bottom looked like it was going to be a Highway Advisory Radio sign.

That might actually be a good example of why this kind of sign may need to exist: an almost totally rural highway that suddenly becomes a narrow suburban four lane expressway with tons of cross and turning traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on November 28, 2021, 01:40:41 AM
Quote from: Bruce on November 24, 2021, 03:19:25 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on November 23, 2021, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

A more concise version of the suggestion. (https://goo.gl/maps/6TvWMdGUEkpqj9FXA)  (BC 99 to WA crossing.)

And a ferry version of the sign:
And a drawbridge version (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6533897,-122.3199705,3a,15y,230.29h,91.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK3tegbfo0nfqVVOIvFVuhw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) (featuring a rare use of underlined text on a road sign, along with some way-too-busy graphics).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on November 29, 2021, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 24, 2021, 01:27:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/B9owPfyh7tTzM8Sv6

Still to this day Essex County won't correct the route error here. It's supposed to be I-280 not I-287 on this truck guide sign here.

Trucks are banned on Livingston Avenue north of JFK parkway which exchanges with I-280 not I-287.

it's not a signage error; you're interpreting it incorrectly.

the sign states that trucks heading towards I-287 must turn left here (prohibiting them from continuing straight to use I-280 for that purpose).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on November 29, 2021, 07:31:03 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 24, 2021, 03:19:25 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on November 23, 2021, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 23, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
Elkhart, IN
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.6807832,-85.9696134,3a,40.4y,18.72h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuO_63O1_GCPA1VTJC72kQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

A more concise version of the suggestion. (https://goo.gl/maps/6TvWMdGUEkpqj9FXA)  (BC 99 to WA crossing.)
And a ferry version of the sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/NGPIl2G.jpg)
i think i know why cause the waves will rock from top to bottom of the boat
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 29, 2021, 10:25:22 PM
Quote from: odditude on November 29, 2021, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 24, 2021, 01:27:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/B9owPfyh7tTzM8Sv6

Still to this day Essex County won't correct the route error here. It's supposed to be I-280 not I-287 on this truck guide sign here.

Trucks are banned on Livingston Avenue north of JFK parkway which exchanges with I-280 not I-287.

it's not a signage error; you're interpreting it incorrectly.

the sign states that trucks heading towards I-287 must turn left here (prohibiting them from continuing straight to use I-280 for that purpose).

Not really. It seems as though JFK Pkwy/Columbia Turnpike/Eisenhower Pkwy is a truck route between NJ 24 and I-280 (because Eisenhower Pkwy wasn't fully completed for that purpose), thus the sign should refer to I-280 and not I-287.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on November 30, 2021, 08:56:28 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 29, 2021, 10:25:22 PM
Quote from: odditude on November 29, 2021, 03:51:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 24, 2021, 01:27:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/B9owPfyh7tTzM8Sv6

Still to this day Essex County won't correct the route error here. It's supposed to be I-280 not I-287 on this truck guide sign here.

Trucks are banned on Livingston Avenue north of JFK parkway which exchanges with I-280 not I-287.

it's not a signage error; you're interpreting it incorrectly.

the sign states that trucks heading towards I-287 must turn left here (prohibiting them from continuing straight to use I-280 for that purpose).

Not really. It seems as though JFK Pkwy/Columbia Turnpike/Eisenhower Pkwy is a truck route between NJ 24 and I-280 (because Eisenhower Pkwy wasn't fully completed for that purpose), thus the sign should refer to I-280 and not I-287.

Agreed.  Most of the traffic that sees this sign passed by the JFK Pwky/NJ 24 interchange only a mile earlier.  Obviously, if your destination is along 287, it would be better to simply take NJ-24.  Traffic that is heading north on JFK and Livingston Ave is headed for 280, not 287. 

Making the left at Columbia Tpke will lead you to Eisenhower Pkwy to 280.  It will also lead you to NJ-24 to 287.  So both are technically correct, but most of the traffic is probably interested in 280, so the sign should read 280, not 287.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 30, 2021, 12:42:08 PM
The ACE and its sign mountings.  The only road agency that uses braces to hold their guide signs in place.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8126/8712019254_ada1136a03_h.jpg)

Plus I find it interesting the ACE has had no major sign replacements to date along its entire 44 miles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on November 30, 2021, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 30, 2021, 12:42:08 PM
The ACE and its sign mountings.  The only road agency that uses braces to hold their guide signs in place.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8126/8712019254_ada1136a03_h.jpg)

Plus I find it interesting the ACE has had no major sign replacements to date along its entire 44 miles.


Nevada DOT does the same thing with their guide signs, except they come down to a point, instead of two mounts on the ground.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 30, 2021, 05:16:18 PM
Mn/DOT does the same thing as the ACE.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 30, 2021, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 30, 2021, 05:16:18 PM
Mn/DOT does the same thing as the ACE.

And Arizona used to up until umpteen years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 01, 2021, 12:40:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/fTAVAR3h9hMJLDoKA
https://goo.gl/maps/2nna3RNt1fz2etsU9

Two completely different routes in Florida, with same error but one exit number apart.

The exit tabs are both aligned wrong.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 01, 2021, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 30, 2021, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 30, 2021, 05:16:18 PM
Mn/DOT does the same thing as the ACE.

And Arizona used to up until umpteen years ago.

And Arkansas used to do it too. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 02, 2021, 10:32:53 PM
A "sidewalk closed - use other sidewalk" sign that's way too wordy:

(https://i.imgur.com/ASZmGwR.jpg)

It should be those two signs:

(https://i.imgur.com/PTNPeZH.png) (https://i.imgur.com/ZriP9er.png)

...or in fact, it shouldn't be any sign, as the sidewalk was, and currently is, open despite the sign being there.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on December 03, 2021, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 01, 2021, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 30, 2021, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 30, 2021, 05:16:18 PM
Mn/DOT does the same thing as the ACE.

And Arizona used to up until umpteen years ago.

And Arkansas used to do it too. 

On rare occasions the still do.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 04, 2021, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 27, 2021, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on November 27, 2021, 06:44:59 PM
Flashing yellow lights on a green Entering City and yellow traffic warning sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/BHPC5p5s5LjqaRGY8)  I know you're not supposed to combine regulatory signs with anything else, but there are no rules against warning sign combos.  At night having flashing lights on top of yellow at the bottom looked like it was going to be a Highway Advisory Radio sign.

That might actually be a good example of why this kind of sign may need to exist: an almost totally rural highway that suddenly becomes a narrow suburban four lane expressway with tons of cross and turning traffic.

"Road approaches next 2 miles" is an interesting choice of words... (what is 'next 2 miles' that my road is approaching?). Although wordier, "Side streets and driveways" would be better phrasing.

And I think it would be better to separate the signs and have the flashing beacons on the warning sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 04, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
^^ Wisconsin calls it "cross traffic".  Though I don't want to see angry drivers.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 09, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
For those who complain about mismatched sign heights. (https://goo.gl/maps/2jU1ne39BjBxixB36)

(Stolen from the There is NO way that is MUTCD-compliant Facebook page)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on December 12, 2021, 11:24:29 AM
Tall boi! This, of course, is a new temporary sign on westbound I-285 approaching the GA 400 interchange. Really, it would've been better to place it away from other directional signage, but that sort of thing tends to be ignored on this project. The last two exits are actually a single offramp that splits shortly downstream, but this sign still accurately communicates the upcoming degree of clusterfriggery. A border would've been nice, too.  :rolleyes:

(https://i.imgur.com/z2NshSK.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 12, 2021, 01:59:44 PM
Any reason why a standard next-three-exits menu board wouldn't have worked here?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 12, 2021, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2021, 01:59:44 PM
Any reason why a standard next-three-exits menu board wouldn't have worked here?

It's a really long C/D lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on December 13, 2021, 05:26:43 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 12, 2021, 01:59:44 PM
Any reason why a standard next-three-exits menu board wouldn't have worked here?

These four exits are in very quick succession. This is half a mile or so downstream:

(https://i.imgur.com/SEIvfEu.jpg)

Quote from: 1 on December 12, 2021, 02:17:14 PMIt's a really long C/D lane.


No, it's not. These are all mainline exits.

(https://i.imgur.com/QOycq74.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 13, 2021, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/vucUaJattjiyUpzY7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.

What am I supposed to be seeing? The link took me to Roxann Road in Fairfax County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 11:03:38 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 13, 2021, 10:58:12 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/vucUaJattjiyUpzY7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.

What am I supposed to be seeing? The link took me to Roxann Road in Fairfax County.
Ooops, try the OP again. Should be fixed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 13, 2021, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Geez, I thought Texas was excessive with their clearance signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on December 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Challenge accepted.

*proposes transporting windmill blades vertically*
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 11:42:15 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 13, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Challenge accepted.

*proposes transporting windmill blades vertically*

Topeka would like to have a word...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.c141heaven.info%2Fdotcom%2Fjokes%2Fbridge016.jpg&hash=e1b39ac8f3da6324866cb1f6f7c7370aeca9e9ed)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 13, 2021, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 13, 2021, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Geez, I thought Texas was excessive with their clearance signs.

All I see is a speed limit sign. And don't have the option to arrow backwards in case that link is too far beyond the sign we're supposed to see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 13, 2021, 02:56:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2021, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 13, 2021, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Geez, I thought Texas was excessive with their clearance signs.

All I see is a speed limit sign. And don't have the option to arrow backwards in case that link is too far beyond the sign we're supposed to see.

Look up. 51 feet, 3 inches up.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZxLlJPQ.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 13, 2021, 03:19:06 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 13, 2021, 02:56:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 13, 2021, 02:49:12 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on December 13, 2021, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: MCRoads on December 13, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1ik7gJzNy1i9jEUA7

Just... why? It is so utterly useless there! No one will ever hit that bridge. And if they do, the lower bridge in that interchange is going to be the bigger issue.
Geez, I thought Texas was excessive with their clearance signs.

All I see is a speed limit sign. And don't have the option to arrow backwards in case that link is too far beyond the sign we're supposed to see.

Look up. 51 feet, 3 inches up.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZxLlJPQ.png)
This looks similar to the Blue Ridge Parkway in Asheville!

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4958954,-82.5646248,3a,75y,337.83h,102.49t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1su1yQFYgJ1nJYty2tWCO3_g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Du1yQFYgJ1nJYty2tWCO3_g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D50.272175%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on December 14, 2021, 01:59:56 AM
Some new signs for shared streets in Portland (complete with dividers to prevent thru traffic from cutting across)

https://twitter.com/BikePortland/status/1470525719440592896
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 15, 2021, 12:29:36 AM
Never seen NCDOT do a letter a design like this on the word "Stadium".

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0935772,-80.2426764,3a,15.8y,282.06h,103.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHoxSYuy0qwPv8W5W5wjOGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It looks like a Georgia or Florida letter a.

If you look at Marshall, they are different.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 15, 2021, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 14, 2021, 01:59:56 AM
Some new signs for shared streets in Portland (complete with dividers to prevent thru traffic from cutting across)

https://twitter.com/BikePortland/status/1470525719440592896

Wouldn't this just push the problem into the cross walk?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on December 15, 2021, 12:53:25 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 15, 2021, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 14, 2021, 01:59:56 AM
Some new signs for shared streets in Portland (complete with dividers to prevent thru traffic from cutting across)


Wouldn't this just push the problem into the cross walk?

Cars would have to cross it anyway to turn right. The idea is to force right turns unless it's absolutely necessary to continue through.

Admittedly, this is much worse than the normal implementation of a hard divider.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 15, 2021, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 15, 2021, 12:53:25 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 15, 2021, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 14, 2021, 01:59:56 AM
Some new signs for shared streets in Portland (complete with dividers to prevent thru traffic from cutting across)


Wouldn't this just push the problem into the cross walk?

Cars would have to cross it anyway to turn right. The idea is to force right turns unless it's absolutely necessary to continue through.

Admittedly, this is much worse than the normal implementation of a hard divider.

The real question is, though: why not a hard divider?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 15, 2021, 01:20:44 AM
There are a few signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1127316,-80.048248,3a,16.7y,243.98h,89.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s13ipyGUsSRNZQ2yPANuZ5w!2e0!5s20210701T000000!7i16384!8i8192) here in North Carolina, but damn... I've never seen a Clearview mileage sign in my entire life...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 15, 2021, 07:03:15 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 15, 2021, 01:20:44 AM
There are a few signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1127316,-80.048248,3a,16.7y,243.98h,89.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s13ipyGUsSRNZQ2yPANuZ5w!2e0!5s20210701T000000!7i16384!8i8192) here in North Carolina, but damn... I've never seen a Clearview mileage sign in my entire life...

Pennsylvania is full of clearview mileage signs
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 15, 2021, 07:27:57 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on December 15, 2021, 07:03:15 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 15, 2021, 01:20:44 AM
There are a few signs like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1127316,-80.048248,3a,16.7y,243.98h,89.57t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s13ipyGUsSRNZQ2yPANuZ5w!2e0!5s20210701T000000!7i16384!8i8192) here in North Carolina, but damn... I've never seen a Clearview mileage sign in my entire life...

Pennsylvania is full of clearview mileage signs
And, don't they use Clearview on the highway signs on freeways?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 15, 2021, 10:03:11 PM
(Pare) n (thesis) on SR 93 in Kingsport, Tennessee:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51749909943_1d5f2738d5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mQXPhB)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 16, 2021, 02:30:32 AM
"Multi-use trail crossing" sign.

(https://i.imgur.com/qVBfcVf.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 16, 2021, 02:48:00 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 16, 2021, 02:30:32 AM
"Multi-use trail crossing" sign.

(https://i.imgur.com/qVBfcVf.jpg)

Reminds me of the PEI standard for a trail crossing sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/3iePFb8.png)
(Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/xRH5T26A5nLhR9WT8))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 18, 2021, 07:05:30 PM
Lower Dump Bodies... It's a school zone colored sign and I have no idea what the hell it means.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2702626,-78.6169106,3a,15y,1.25h,88.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNq1rNE4U8aOx_5MjImgvVw!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 18, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 18, 2021, 07:05:30 PM
Lower Dump Bodies... It's a school zone colored sign and I have no idea what the hell it means.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2702626,-78.6169106,3a,15y,1.25h,88.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNq1rNE4U8aOx_5MjImgvVw!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

It's for dump trucks so as not to damage their brand new bridge...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 18, 2021, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on December 18, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 18, 2021, 07:05:30 PM
Lower Dump Bodies... It's a school zone colored sign and I have no idea what the hell it means.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2702626,-78.6169106,3a,15y,1.25h,88.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNq1rNE4U8aOx_5MjImgvVw!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

It's for dump trucks so as not to damage their brand new bridge...
I get it now. It's just the color that kinda bothers me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 18, 2021, 08:59:52 PM

Quote from: tolbs17 on December 18, 2021, 07:24:28 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on December 18, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 18, 2021, 07:05:30 PM
Lower Dump Bodies... It's a school zone colored sign and I have no idea what the hell it means.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2702626,-78.6169106,3a,15y,1.25h,88.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNq1rNE4U8aOx_5MjImgvVw!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

It's for dump trucks so as not to damage their brand new bridge...
I get it now. It's just the color that kinda bothers me.

In work zones, dump trucks often need to have their bodies up to get material nesr the gate to offload, so here they're just reminder the drivers to get those bodies down. Although odd they even had that color lying around. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.

https://twitter.com/la_dorkout/status/1461128804357730309

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 19, 2021, 11:04:38 AM
^^  I want to see how "dork" is related to "geek" on the family tree.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 19, 2021, 12:17:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.

That is very interesting. I still see "OK" oddly often in Washington State. Most often at off-ramps to sign an outside left turn lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 19, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.
And the color scheme was reversed.  White on black instead of black on white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 19, 2021, 06:53:17 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 19, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.
And the color scheme was reversed.  White on black instead of black on white.

Nevada used to use "OK" on lane assignment signs long ago. I remember a few around the Las Vegas area when I was a kid, but any examples I specifically recall are long gone.

I actually quite like those white on black lane assignment signs–I dare say this would make more sense as a standard. But I'm guessing the black on white sticks with traditional regulatory definitions and might also be easier to manufacture...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 19, 2021, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 19, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.
And the color scheme was reversed.  White on black instead of black on white.

Such a color scheme is Québec standard (https://goo.gl/maps/aoyuMBMyk5gcMrxg7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 19, 2021, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 19, 2021, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 19, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.
And the color scheme was reversed.  White on black instead of black on white.

Such a color scheme is Québec standard (https://goo.gl/maps/aoyuMBMyk5gcMrxg7).

Canada as a whole, not just Quebec.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 19, 2021, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 19, 2021, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 19, 2021, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 19, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: mrsman on December 19, 2021, 10:59:41 AM
Here's an option lane marked with "OK", which was a standard approach in CA years ago.  Only a few signs remain.
And the color scheme was reversed.  White on black instead of black on white.

Such a color scheme is Québec standard (https://goo.gl/maps/aoyuMBMyk5gcMrxg7).

Canada as a whole, not just Quebec.

Right. Fun fact: until 2003, the color scheme in Québec was actually the same as in the US. Few signs of the black-on-white color scheme remain, though they're rare.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 21, 2021, 10:46:28 PM
worst.
roundabout.
ever.

(https://i.imgur.com/6iNfY5y.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 21, 2021, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 21, 2021, 10:46:28 PM
worst.
roundabout.
ever.

(https://i.imgur.com/6iNfY5y.jpg)

At least there's a state name I-70 shield...?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on December 21, 2021, 11:42:38 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 21, 2021, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 21, 2021, 10:46:28 PM
worst.
roundabout.
ever.

(https://i.imgur.com/6iNfY5y.jpg)

At least there's a state name I-70 shield...?
Reminds me of the east end of I-78.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 22, 2021, 12:17:10 AM
I went on GSV to take a look at that roundabout and geeeezzz! What a mess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on December 22, 2021, 03:12:32 AM
Ah, Glenwood Springs, the town that smells like a wet fart.

At least Doc Holliday's grave is an interesting hike.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 22, 2021, 09:06:31 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on December 22, 2021, 03:12:32 AM
Ah, Glenwood Springs, the town that smells like a wet fart.

At least Doc Holliday's grave is an interesting hike.

you're dead on, with the aroma. but that hot springs pool is niiiiicccceeee....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 23, 2021, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 22, 2021, 09:06:31 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on December 22, 2021, 03:12:32 AM
Ah, Glenwood Springs, the town that smells like a wet fart.

At least Doc Holliday's grave is an interesting hike.

you're dead on, with the aroma. but that hot springs pool is niiiiicccceeee....

Huh, didn't notice a peculiar odor when I visited.

[checks deodorant brand]
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 23, 2021, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 23, 2021, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 22, 2021, 09:06:31 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on December 22, 2021, 03:12:32 AM
Ah, Glenwood Springs, the town that smells like a wet fart.

At least Doc Holliday's grave is an interesting hike.

you're dead on, with the aroma. but that hot springs pool is niiiiicccceeee....

Huh, didn't notice a peculiar odor when I visited.

[checks deodorant brand]

might depend on the wind, or the ventilation settings in your car. i usually notice it around the last turn before the pool. i don't find it particularly unpleasant, though. might be because i really like the hot springs pool though. we go up there so my mom can visit relatives and shop, and i'm just like 'here's my keys don't wreck my car i'll be in the pool'
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 23, 2021, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: plain on December 22, 2021, 12:17:10 AM
I went on GSV to take a look at that roundabout and geeeezzz! What a mess.
Quote from: plain on December 22, 2021, 12:17:10 AM
I went on GSV to take a look at that roundabout and geeeezzz! What a mess.

That roundabout is just one part of that elaborate intersection. 

As ugly as it is, it's still a helluva lot better than the old CO-82 alignment from I-70 to 6th Avenue then over the old, narrow Grand Avenue Bridge.

The former KFC next to the Hotel Colorado would strongly disagree, though. As their business dried up once the old bridge was closed and replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 23, 2021, 06:15:39 PM
What font is the  "BUSINESS" in? (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9546361,-95.675215,3a,51.7y,339.77h,83.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stJD0Jr7kFQ2Qi31IUpa8jg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Looks kind of like squished Clearview, but I could be wrong. Regardless, still very closely spaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 23, 2021, 06:55:51 PM
Just Clearview 5W with the letters nearly touching each other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on December 23, 2021, 07:15:38 PM
Yeesh, that extremely tight kerning on the word "BUSINESS" is just as bad as some of the green signs we have here in Lawton on Rogers Lane. I-44 thru Lawton has some Clearview signs with sub-par letter spacing along with some other laughable oddities. BTW, those letter spacing issues wouldn't look any better set in Series Gothic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on December 24, 2021, 01:06:41 PM
I vaguely remember seeing IR for Interstates somewhere, but USR (https://goo.gl/maps/4WeY6s9ifLKKSmVz6) is a new one on me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 25, 2021, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on December 24, 2021, 01:06:41 PM
I vaguely remember seeing IR for Interstates somewhere, but USR (https://goo.gl/maps/4WeY6s9ifLKKSmVz6) is a new one on me.

And the sign in the other direction (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4238583,-82.57433,3a,40.7y,256.37h,81.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNpVdEMGhw44BTY_6QKeulA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) erroneously refers to the ramp to 52 east as U.S. 52 West (if you turn around across the bridge you can see that the other direction is signed as 52 west). An eastbound control city here would be helpful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on December 25, 2021, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 25, 2021, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on December 24, 2021, 01:06:41 PM
I vaguely remember seeing IR for Interstates somewhere, but USR (https://goo.gl/maps/4WeY6s9ifLKKSmVz6) is a new one on me.

And the sign in the other direction (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4238583,-82.57433,3a,40.7y,256.37h,81.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNpVdEMGhw44BTY_6QKeulA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) erroneously refers to the ramp to 52 east as U.S. 52 West (if you turn around across the bridge you can see that the other direction is signed as 52 west). An eastbound control city here would be helpful.

Someone asked if this was a local install. I hope so.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 25, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
North Carolina-style sign in another state (this is in Virginia).

I-85
https://maps.app.goo.gl/auNNAbt9CDLhAUNr5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on December 25, 2021, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 25, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
North Carolina-style sign in another state (this is in Virginia).

I-85
https://maps.app.goo.gl/auNNAbt9CDLhAUNr5

Virginia historically used rounded corners like North Carolina. Many signs across the state are still rounded, although there is less in Northern Virginia compared to elsewhere from what I've seen.

I want to say they were still installing them until the mid-2000s, but I would appreciate a correction if a Virginia local has a better idea.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on December 25, 2021, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on December 25, 2021, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 25, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
North Carolina-style sign in another state (this is in Virginia).

I-85
https://maps.app.goo.gl/auNNAbt9CDLhAUNr5

Virginia historically used rounded corners like North Carolina. Many signs across the state are still rounded, although there is less in Northern Virginia compared to elsewhere from what I've seen.

I want to say they were still installing them until the mid-2000s, but I would appreciate a correction if a Virginia local has a better idea.

This one (https://goo.gl/maps/Ld9aHw9gbcDRvLjc6) was installed in 2016 or 2017 but most new installs have been squared for a while.  Many new installs are on top of rounded ones which can be seen from behind.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 26, 2021, 06:16:38 PM
Virginia has been using extruded panels instead of increment panels on some of its guide signage in recent years. I'm not sure if it's a new state spec, or if they are just giving the contractor the option if they can provide extruded panel signs cheaper than they can increment panels.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on December 26, 2021, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 25, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
North Carolina-style sign in another state (this is in Virginia).

I-85
https://maps.app.goo.gl/auNNAbt9CDLhAUNr5

Indeed, this is a BGS supplied by NCDOT that is located on I-85 southbound just across the border in Virginia.  I'm pretty certain that the old sign was replaced with this one when US-401 was extended from Norlina up to I-85 in 2001. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 27, 2021, 02:42:06 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/wUGVjFZT82RNXitT6
Glad to see that this bottom copy overhead at the western terminus of NJ 33 in Trenton, NJ still exists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on December 28, 2021, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on December 26, 2021, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 25, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
North Carolina-style sign in another state (this is in Virginia).

I-85
https://maps.app.goo.gl/auNNAbt9CDLhAUNr5

Indeed, this is a BGS supplied by NCDOT that is located on I-85 southbound just across the border in Virginia.  I'm pretty certain that the old sign was replaced with this one when US-401 was extended from Norlina up to I-85 in 2001.
The sign is in Virginia, but yes, I'm fairly certain it was supplied by and follows NCDOT spec. Based on Street View, it went up around 2017-2018.

It was when I-85 was reconstructed entirely between the Virginia state line and Henderson, and all signage was replaced along that section of highway.

So it's not a VDOT sign nor does it follow VDOT standards, it just happens to be placed in Virginia since the North Carolina exit is immediately over the border, and advance notice is still needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 29, 2021, 12:13:13 AM
A friend e-mailed this to me; I'm sure it was passed to him by someone.  I have no idea where it was taken.

(https://i.imgur.com/K0cKaIv.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on December 29, 2021, 06:50:47 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on December 29, 2021, 12:13:13 AM
A friend e-mailed this to me; I'm sure it was passed to him by someone.  I have no idea where it was taken.

(https://i.imgur.com/K0cKaIv.jpg)
Photoshopped.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 29, 2021, 09:59:30 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bogger4fun40/51723784279

This one in Woodstock, OH.

Photo courtesy Gerald Brown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 29, 2021, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 29, 2021, 09:59:30 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bogger4fun40/51723784279

This one in Woodstock, OH.

Photo courtesy Gerald Brown.
I've seen signs like that before. Not uncommon for me at least.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on December 29, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
When looking around in the street view, I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4343426,-97.4063689,3a,84.9y,283.66h,93.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szZk19mUHtZmREnibb4Sh6w!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) sign and it looks awesome! I wish we had these here in North Carolina. Especially on I-40 west of Waynesville which goes through the terrain with so many curves...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on December 30, 2021, 11:58:15 PM
Not unlike this in Bakersfield: https://goo.gl/maps/JgaLtLDT5hyYPC997
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 31, 2021, 12:23:57 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Gy9HQ8gdHsrgYz4M7
Nice place to have a mileage sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 01, 2022, 09:44:25 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51789066022/in/photostream/

The Hurricane Evacuation sign can be ambiguous here. The split ahead is gradual, so the straight arrow could mean for either way.

SC latest map shows the evacuation routes of the state.  SC 303 from Green Pond north to Walterboro is a route shown, so I assume this is for that particular route north out of the Low County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 01, 2022, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 01, 2022, 09:44:25 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51789066022/in/photostream/

The Hurricane Evacuation sign can be ambiguous here. The split ahead is gradual, so the straight arrow could mean for either way.

SC latest map shows the evacuation routes of the state.  SC 303 from Green Pond north to Walterboro is a route shown, so I assume this is for that particular route north out of the Low County.

It should really be posted just like it is further down at the other US 17-21 split...
https://goo.gl/maps/QSdFmCtBN146XQNu8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on January 01, 2022, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 29, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
When looking around in the street view, I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4343426,-97.4063689,3a,84.9y,283.66h,93.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szZk19mUHtZmREnibb4Sh6w!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) sign and it looks awesome! I wish we had these here in North Carolina. Especially on I-40 west of Waynesville which goes through the terrain with so many curves...

There are several in Cleveland:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZQvjXCpF5LqnshKi9
https://goo.gl/maps/GTXBN3aTENvQAzVQ7
https://goo.gl/maps/K7PVNuNPCF6Avn2PA
https://goo.gl/maps/V5HgKB3LEDDyqJTM6

There are a couple in the big dig (GSV is crap in there though),

There is this in Baton Rouge:
https://goo.gl/maps/ujvHN3U5WY725f799

And San Antonio's probably need to go into the Worst of Road Signs Thread:
https://goo.gl/maps/hAqnRyECLyuzdSyU8 (not damaged, still looks like garbage)
https://goo.gl/maps/uVsx7FDxShddmzZP9 (damaged, slightly intelligible, probably looked worse than the sign above when new)

And there are several signs in Mobile before the George Wallace Tunnel that warn if a slow curve:
https://goo.gl/maps/XNDnw2ekzqFm9zcd9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 01, 2022, 11:28:43 PM
I have to say the "No hooting" on this sign is funny!

https://www.google.com/maps/@-1.3321412,36.8261757,3a,19.8y,189.34h,98.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svBnoqLsdXN6MsK-Cs-iv0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 01, 2022, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 01, 2022, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 01, 2022, 09:44:25 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51789066022/in/photostream/

The Hurricane Evacuation sign can be ambiguous here. The split ahead is gradual, so the straight arrow could mean for either way.

SC latest map shows the evacuation routes of the state.  SC 303 from Green Pond north to Walterboro is a route shown, so I assume this is for that particular route north out of the Low County.

It should really be posted just like it is further down at the other US 17-21 split...
https://goo.gl/maps/QSdFmCtBN146XQNu8

I agree.  Both US 17 N Bound to SC 303 N Bound and US 21 N Bound to SC 68 W Bound are both designated evacuation routes per SCDOT.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 02, 2022, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on January 01, 2022, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 29, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
When looking around in the street view, I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4343426,-97.4063689,3a,84.9y,283.66h,93.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szZk19mUHtZmREnibb4Sh6w!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) sign and it looks awesome! I wish we had these here in North Carolina. Especially on I-40 west of Waynesville which goes through the terrain with so many curves...

There are several in Cleveland:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZQvjXCpF5LqnshKi9
https://goo.gl/maps/GTXBN3aTENvQAzVQ7
https://goo.gl/maps/K7PVNuNPCF6Avn2PA
https://goo.gl/maps/V5HgKB3LEDDyqJTM6

There are a couple in the big dig (GSV is crap in there though),

There is this in Baton Rouge:
https://goo.gl/maps/ujvHN3U5WY725f799

And San Antonio's probably need to go into the Worst of Road Signs Thread:
https://goo.gl/maps/hAqnRyECLyuzdSyU8 (not damaged, still looks like garbage)
https://goo.gl/maps/uVsx7FDxShddmzZP9 (damaged, slightly intelligible, probably looked worse than the sign above when new)

And there are several signs in Mobile before the George Wallace Tunnel that warn if a slow curve:
https://goo.gl/maps/XNDnw2ekzqFm9zcd9

Most of these links won't open
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 02, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: plain on January 02, 2022, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on January 01, 2022, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 29, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
When looking around in the street view, I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4343426,-97.4063689,3a,84.9y,283.66h,93.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szZk19mUHtZmREnibb4Sh6w!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) sign and it looks awesome! I wish we had these here in North Carolina. Especially on I-40 west of Waynesville which goes through the terrain with so many curves...

There are several in Cleveland:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZQvjXCpF5LqnshKi9
https://goo.gl/maps/GTXBN3aTENvQAzVQ7
https://goo.gl/maps/K7PVNuNPCF6Avn2PA
https://goo.gl/maps/V5HgKB3LEDDyqJTM6

There are a couple in the big dig (GSV is crap in there though),

There is this in Baton Rouge:
https://goo.gl/maps/ujvHN3U5WY725f799

And San Antonio's probably need to go into the Worst of Road Signs Thread:
https://goo.gl/maps/hAqnRyECLyuzdSyU8 (not damaged, still looks like garbage)
https://goo.gl/maps/uVsx7FDxShddmzZP9 (damaged, slightly intelligible, probably looked worse than the sign above when new)

And there are several signs in Mobile before the George Wallace Tunnel that warn if a slow curve:
https://goo.gl/maps/XNDnw2ekzqFm9zcd9

Most of these links won't open

All except the last work for me. The first four are just pointing at the ground, and #5-#7 have no issues at all.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on January 03, 2022, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 02, 2022, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: plain on January 02, 2022, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on January 01, 2022, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on December 29, 2021, 07:19:11 PM
When looking around in the street view, I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4343426,-97.4063689,3a,84.9y,283.66h,93.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szZk19mUHtZmREnibb4Sh6w!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) sign and it looks awesome! I wish we had these here in North Carolina. Especially on I-40 west of Waynesville which goes through the terrain with so many curves...

There are several in Cleveland:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZQvjXCpF5LqnshKi9
https://goo.gl/maps/GTXBN3aTENvQAzVQ7
https://goo.gl/maps/K7PVNuNPCF6Avn2PA
https://goo.gl/maps/V5HgKB3LEDDyqJTM6

There are a couple in the big dig (GSV is crap in there though),

There is this in Baton Rouge:
https://goo.gl/maps/ujvHN3U5WY725f799

And San Antonio's probably need to go into the Worst of Road Signs Thread:
https://goo.gl/maps/hAqnRyECLyuzdSyU8 (not damaged, still looks like garbage)
https://goo.gl/maps/uVsx7FDxShddmzZP9 (damaged, slightly intelligible, probably looked worse than the sign above when new)

And there are several signs in Mobile before the George Wallace Tunnel that warn if a slow curve:
https://goo.gl/maps/XNDnw2ekzqFm9zcd9

Most of these links won't open

All except the last work for me. The first four are just pointing at the ground, and #5-#7 have no issues at all.

Yeah, most don't work for me either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 03, 2022, 09:59:50 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 01, 2022, 11:28:43 PM
I have to say the "No hooting" on this sign is funny!

https://www.google.com/maps/@-1.3321412,36.8261757,3a,19.8y,189.34h,98.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svBnoqLsdXN6MsK-Cs-iv0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Not a street sign:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51798772155_327883aec2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mVhfjx)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 04, 2022, 03:26:07 AM
I forgot I had taken this photo.  To the side of I-75 near Wolverine, MI in 2014.

(https://i.imgur.com/1P8Erfm.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 11:49:46 AM
These (https://maps.app.goo.gl/2oDErLyCNJBWZw6R7) signs look odd because they have those tiny arrows at the top
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 04, 2022, 03:32:52 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 04, 2022, 11:49:46 AM
These (https://maps.app.goo.gl/2oDErLyCNJBWZw6R7) signs look odd because they have those tiny arrows at the top

More nitpicking over minor fabrication details.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 06, 2022, 03:41:32 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7576793,-78.0257279,3a,15y,358.29h,92.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snHySGX3OJoiJ58qCNgK_Jw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) sign is in a different shape compared to the other signs (even when they don't have a directional or special route on them), and lacks an exit number.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 08, 2022, 10:15:11 AM
The intersection of US 15, US 176, and SC 45 have a strange assembly to mount the shields to the signal poles.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51806936793_ce12296af2_c.jpg)


The reason is shown in 2013 imagery from Google Street View.

https://goo.gl/maps/nJmjXdWsmMRZq3t87


It was previously used to also mount a guide sign to it.




What gets me is this 2013 caption at another corner that is seen from the perspective of the folks living across the intersection.
https://goo.gl/maps/sVUN82aVMT9u7WMa9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on January 08, 2022, 01:03:07 PM
It's common to find a white "4-way" plate in Canada, but very rare to find one in the US. And for some reason, this 4-way stop in Cincinnati has them white.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1059023,-84.5021267,3a,17.1y,224.65h,78.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shzx9BgDxtPYbO2uvHBTNWQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en-US
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 08, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
It's also a lie, since the intersecting road is one-way, so there's only three ways of traffic that stop at this intersection. This is one reason why new installs say "ALL WAY" rather than specifying the number of ways (which also means you don't have to keep both 3-WAY and 4-WAY plates in stock, nor have to make one-off 5-WAY and higher plates for the situations those would be useful).

As for the use of black on white, in the US, that often means the sign dates back to the 1960s or before, although it's hard to tell if that's the case here, or if Cincinnati just used the wrong color sign that day.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 08, 2022, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
It's also a lie, since the intersecting road is one-way, so there's only three ways of traffic that stop at this intersection. This is one reason why new installs say "ALL WAY" rather than specifying the number of ways (which also means you don't have to keep both 3-WAY and 4-WAY plates in stock, nor have to make one-off 5-WAY and higher plates for the situations those would be useful).

As for the use of black on white, in the US, that often means the sign dates back to the 1960s or before, although it's hard to tell if that's the case here, or if Cincinnati just used the wrong color sign that day.

I thought 3-WAY meant that three of four directions stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 08, 2022, 08:14:05 PM
That's why I prefer the Québec style (https://goo.gl/maps/C6n3CsF8ep2iPxfz7), as it may be adjusted to show whether one end has a stop sign or not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 08, 2022, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 08, 2022, 07:17:54 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
It's also a lie, since the intersecting road is one-way, so there's only three ways of traffic that stop at this intersection. This is one reason why new installs say "ALL WAY" rather than specifying the number of ways (which also means you don't have to keep both 3-WAY and 4-WAY plates in stock, nor have to make one-off 5-WAY and higher plates for the situations those would be useful).

As for the use of black on white, in the US, that often means the sign dates back to the 1960s or before, although it's hard to tell if that's the case here, or if Cincinnati just used the wrong color sign that day.

I thought 3-WAY meant that three of four directions stop.

Interesting–this led me to dig around in the MUTCD, leading me to discover that the 3-WAY tab has never appeared in the MUTCD! The 4-WAY tab first appeared in 1961, the first edition with red stop signs (which had previously been established by a 1954 revision to the 1948 MUTCD that also introduced the yellow yield sign for the first time). They have always been red, so who knows how the Cincinnati one that started this conversation ended up white. But every edition from 1961 to now has never had a 3-WAY tab. (ALL WAY appeared as an option in 2003 and then the standard in 2009.)

That being said, I know I've seen 3-WAY tabs before, in the context of 3-way tee intersections where all legs were stop-controlled. It's possible that misapplications stemming from the interpretation you had led to the creation of the ALL WAY tab, in order to make it crystal-clear what these signs are meant to signify.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on January 08, 2022, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 08, 2022, 08:16:08 PM

Interesting–this led me to dig around in the MUTCD, leading me to discover that the 3-WAY tab has never appeared in the MUTCD! The 4-WAY tab first appeared in 1961, the first edition with red stop signs (which had previously been established by a 1954 revision to the 1948 MUTCD that also introduced the yellow yield sign for the first time). They have always been red, so who knows how the Cincinnati one that started this conversation ended up white. But every edition from 1961 to now has never had a 3-WAY tab. (ALL WAY appeared as an option in 2003 and then the standard in 2009.)

That being said, I know I've seen 3-WAY tabs before, in the context of 3-way tee intersections where all legs were stop-controlled. It's possible that misapplications stemming from the interpretation you had led to the creation of the ALL WAY tab, in order to make it crystal-clear what these signs are meant to signify.

Since 3-WAY has never been in the MUTCD, I doubt this 2-WAY tab I recently found in Ritzville, WA (https://goo.gl/maps/tpgnnUm2fyAvHwc89), is MUTCD compliant either.

(And yes, I know it should be the "cross traffic does not stop" W4-4p sign.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on January 09, 2022, 10:58:12 PM
A couple of 2-way stop intersections with "2-way" plates wrongly used. (I assume the 2-way plate was meant to be used at an all-way stop of two one-way roads?)
https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6097648,-123.1078953,3a,75y,308.15h,77.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siT-Txvy9tpCVJHIVo-o1uQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.254227,-105.8186878,3a,75y,289.1h,84.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swxmQBn3w0Tv4B_Ok1oHjCw!2e0!5s20070901T000000!7i3328!8i1664
This one is stupid, the stop sign imo should be on the ending road.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7627385,-88.3207362,3a,15y,297.83h,89.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s19r6BRuREcUrA5sMdFACRQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.7173733,-117.0180713,3a,15.1y,27.57h,90.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spMD8A0dMRuhZSihG1pjNLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 10, 2022, 01:11:23 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on January 09, 2022, 10:58:12 PM
A couple of 2-way stop intersections with "2-way" plates wrongly used. (I assume the 2-way plate was meant to be used at an all-way stop of two one-way roads?)

As described above, 2-WAY plates were never officially meant to be used at all, and neither were 3-WAY plates. The only plate that was intended to be used is 4-WAY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 10, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
An intersection in the middle of a neighborhood with three different towns (or in this case, including Chicago) with three different guide signs for each of the towns/cities.

https://goo.gl/maps/D4bedEbqrpyjXiR5A
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 10, 2022, 03:31:14 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 10, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
An intersection in the middle of a neighborhood with three different towns (or in this case, including Chicago) with three different guide signs for each of the towns/cities.

https://goo.gl/maps/D4bedEbqrpyjXiR5A

All I'm seeing is a street sign and a "snow route" sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on January 10, 2022, 08:05:24 PM
A different kind of end sign next to Costco HQ in Issaquah:

(https://i.imgur.com/SKqEG3r.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on January 10, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 10, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
An intersection in the middle of a neighborhood with three different towns (or in this case, including Chicago) with three different guide signs for each of the towns/cities.

https://goo.gl/maps/D4bedEbqrpyjXiR5A

Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2022, 03:31:14 PM
All I'm seeing is a street sign and a "snow route" sign.

I think he meant that one set of street blades is from Niles, one set of streetblades is from Chicago and then there is the city limit sign for Park Ridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on January 11, 2022, 06:01:32 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on January 10, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 10, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
An intersection in the middle of a neighborhood with three different towns (or in this case, including Chicago) with three different guide signs for each of the towns/cities.

https://goo.gl/maps/D4bedEbqrpyjXiR5A

Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2022, 03:31:14 PM
All I'm seeing is a street sign and a "snow route" sign.

I think he meant that one set of street blades is from Niles, one set of streetblades is from Chicago and then there is the city limit sign for Park Ridge.

The third (Park Ridge) street sign is the monument behind the white car.

Spinning around the middle of the intersection:
   Chicago (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,219.78h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Niles (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,71.14h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Park Ridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,325.21h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(The fourth corner is also in Chicago)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 11, 2022, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 11, 2022, 06:01:32 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on January 10, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 10, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
An intersection in the middle of a neighborhood with three different towns (or in this case, including Chicago) with three different guide signs for each of the towns/cities.

https://goo.gl/maps/D4bedEbqrpyjXiR5A

Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2022, 03:31:14 PM
All I'm seeing is a street sign and a "snow route" sign.

I think he meant that one set of street blades is from Niles, one set of streetblades is from Chicago and then there is the city limit sign for Park Ridge.

The third (Park Ridge) street sign is the monument behind the white car.

Spinning around the middle of the intersection:
   Chicago (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,219.78h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Niles (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,71.14h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Park Ridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,325.21h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(The fourth corner is also in Chicago)

My apologies for not being super clear. I was indeed referring to there being the three different set of street blades (or monument sign for Park Ridge). That's what was unique. I should've posted three different links.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on January 11, 2022, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 11, 2022, 06:01:32 AM
The third (Park Ridge) street sign is the monument behind the white car.

Spinning around the middle of the intersection:
   Chicago (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,219.78h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Niles (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,71.14h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Park Ridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,325.21h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(The fourth corner is also in Chicago)

I missed the monument.  Is it true that the street is named Howard Street in Chicago and Niles, but named Sibley Street in Park Ridge?  I've never heard of a street with one name on the left side of the road and another name on the right side.  (Sounds like a new thread with very few posts).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 11, 2022, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on January 11, 2022, 11:51:32 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on January 11, 2022, 06:01:32 AM
The third (Park Ridge) street sign is the monument behind the white car.

Spinning around the middle of the intersection:
   Chicago (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,219.78h,92.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Niles (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,71.14h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
   Park Ridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0187889,-87.8163784,3a,16.1y,325.21h,84.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRflFFMMwluF4iKY2EMUwug!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(The fourth corner is also in Chicago)

I missed the monument.  Is it true that the street is named Howard Street in Chicago and Niles, but named Sibley Street in Park Ridge?  I've never heard of a street with one name on the left side of the road and another name on the right side.  (Sounds like a new thread with very few posts).

Happens all the time in the Oklahoma City metro, especially places where Norman abuts Oklahoma City or Moore (since Norman numbers its N-S streets and OKC/Moore number their E-W streets).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 11, 2022, 11:17:05 PM
This one with the shields on the sign being out of proportion to each other.  By volume the US 321 shield is larger than the US 17 shield.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51816375365_72c980ae75_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 11, 2022, 11:54:10 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2022, 11:17:05 PMThis one with the shields on the sign being out of proportion to each other.  By volume the US 321 shield is larger than the US 17 shield.

This is by design in South Carolina.

(https://i.imgur.com/v8fnKCt.png)

One would probably have to find a state MUTCD from the days when South Carolina was an own-manual state to be sure of the precise rules, but I've seen a consistent pattern of 36" x 36" for two-digit US with "1" (e.g., US 17, US 21), 36" x 45" for two-digit US without "1" (e.g., US 52), 42" x 63" for three-digit US, 48" high for Interstates (two- or three-digit), and 36" high for state routes (two- or three-digit), the common denominator being that all digits are 18" high with adequate space padding.

It's actually a pretty elegant system, though execution has gotten a little janky in the last ten years or so since South Carolina got rid of its own manual (I think it is now either a supplementer or direct adopter).  In the past, for example, different-height shields would be centered vertically on each other rather than being top-aligned (which accentuates the height difference in a way that makes it distracting) as in the sign in the photo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on January 12, 2022, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 11, 2022, 11:54:10 PM
One would probably have to find a state MUTCD from the days when South Carolina was an own-manual state to be sure of the precise rules, but I've seen a consistent pattern of 36" x 36" for two-digit US with "1" (e.g., US 17, US 21), 36" x 45" for two-digit US without "1" (e.g., US 52), 42" x 63" for three-digit US, 48" high for Interstates (two- or three-digit), and 36" high for state routes (two- or three-digit), the common denominator being that all digits are 18" high with adequate space padding.

Maybe I'm seeing things weird, but I'm pretty sure the 321 digits are bigger than the 17 digits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 12, 2022, 12:56:58 AM
Quote from: US 89 on January 12, 2022, 12:15:19 AMMaybe I'm seeing things weird, but I'm pretty sure the 321 digits are bigger than the 17 digits.

In the photo, yes, they are.  In the plan sheet extract, they are both 18" tall.  (There used to be a standard plan sheet that controlled the relationship between digit height and shield size.)

In the photo, they are also both Series D.  In the (good) old days, only Interstate shields got Series D, while both state and US routes got Series E, as in the extract.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on January 12, 2022, 12:30:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 12, 2022, 12:56:58 AM
Quote from: US 89 on January 12, 2022, 12:15:19 AMMaybe I'm seeing things weird, but I'm pretty sure the 321 digits are bigger than the 17 digits.

In the photo, yes, they are.  In the plan sheet extract, they are both 18" tall.  (There used to be a standard plan sheet that controlled the relationship between digit height and shield size.)

In the photo, they are also both Series D.  In the (good) old days, only Interstate shields got Series D, while both state and US routes got Series E, as in the extract.

the design also calls for Clearview for the legend and exit tab, while they're in Series E (or E(M) or whathaveyou) on the sign itself.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 12, 2022, 01:04:32 PM
Here is an example of a mid-period install (early 1980s) showing the same kind of shield disparities - http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i26e-exit119-curley.jpg

I-95's original signage was from 1970ish and the 3-digit shields looked like this one with smaller shields of all types - https://goo.gl/maps/ftUHNJCt7N4Fq14YA

This one might have been a one-off - http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/calif-sc-nasiatka.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 12, 2022, 01:39:04 PM
Quote from: odditude on January 12, 2022, 12:30:05 PMThe design also calls for Clearview for the legend and exit tab, while they're in Series E (or E(M) or whathaveyou) on the sign itself.

The design dates from 2009 and corresponds to a sign that was in place as recently as June 2019 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.2721805,-81.0815808,3a,75y,32.17h,89.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8-EzDH6HtVFK3FIkFTiMgA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).  I think the one in the photo is a knock-down replacement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 14, 2022, 01:09:10 AM
Today, on "this type of thing tends to kill people": the arrows on a two-way traffic are reversed on the Exit 53 ramp from US 1 to I-95 SB in Branford, CT. https://goo.gl/maps/zFe4zSu5JZG2pVsZA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 14, 2022, 07:37:48 AM
They look uglier compared to Virginia and other states signage. I honestly don't like South Carolina-style highway signs that much. But, those signs that Mapmikey listed are better than this (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5652434,-82.4989351,3a,24.5y,214.05h,100.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shVnGiFdTvCoeR_5KueALqg!2e0!5s20210601T000000!7i16384!8i8192) sign for sure! I'm not a fan of having exit tabs on top of the sign. I prefer the top right or left (if it's a left exit).

Here's a rare new sign that uses a type B arrow - https://www.google.com/maps/@35.5698875,-78.1629153,3a,15.9y,283.45h,91.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szGTUjKj5PY_jlmo_z0dYvQ!2e0!5s20210501T000000!7i16384!8i8192

That interchange used to be a death trap especially with Bagley Rd traffic entering I-95 north because the lane ended entirely before the bridge approach.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on January 14, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 14, 2022, 01:09:10 AM
Today, on "this type of thing tends to kill people": the arrows on a two-way traffic are reversed on the Exit 53 ramp from US 1 to I-95 SB in Branford, CT. https://goo.gl/maps/zFe4zSu5JZG2pVsZA

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/f7/0f/5bf70fb46d27576f128e929da48f55d2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MCRoads on January 14, 2022, 11:52:22 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on January 14, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 14, 2022, 01:09:10 AM
Today, on "this type of thing tends to kill people": the arrows on a two-way traffic are reversed on the Exit 53 ramp from US 1 to I-95 SB in Branford, CT. https://goo.gl/maps/zFe4zSu5JZG2pVsZA

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/f7/0f/5bf70fb46d27576f128e929da48f55d2.jpg)


Hahaha! What is that from? Sounds really familiar, just can't place it...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on January 14, 2022, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: MCRoads on January 14, 2022, 11:52:22 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on January 14, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 14, 2022, 01:09:10 AM
Today, on "this type of thing tends to kill people": the arrows on a two-way traffic are reversed on the Exit 53 ramp from US 1 to I-95 SB in Branford, CT. https://goo.gl/maps/zFe4zSu5JZG2pVsZA

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5b/f7/0f/5bf70fb46d27576f128e929da48f55d2.jpg)


Hahaha! What is that from? Sounds really familiar, just can't place it...

I thought it was Top Gear, but Google's telling me it's from Arrested Development. I'm just starting season 2, so I haven't made it to this episode yet. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 14, 2022, 04:27:58 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on January 14, 2022, 12:49:14 PM
I thought it was Top Gear

Admittedly, it is a very Top Gear kind of joke.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 15, 2022, 12:09:25 AM
These are in SNV and it must of been done by the city (not NCDOT). I know it's a European typeface used on highway and street signs there. Goldsboro has a lot of them, and Durham.

Surprisingly Wikipedia does not say anything about America using the SNV typeface on signs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNV_(typeface)

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.985383,-78.6859698,3a,32.4y,207.64h,82.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suLqYvn-X8ikC9-YYV8E04Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8180846,-78.2565013,3a,15y,302.9h,89.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-NvueKhDrv-vybIN955PSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3819819,-77.9828952,3a,15y,256.77h,87.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLA_FbNYUZbXXzGHeSXu1MQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9969424,-78.9038238,3a,18.3y,282.96h,97.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSaR28x2qhcZvPuqObngngQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 15, 2022, 12:54:53 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 15, 2022, 12:09:25 AM
Surprisingly Wikipedia does not say anything about America using the SNV typeface on signs.

That's because America doesn't use it, some random dolt that doesn't know how to use the font-selector box misclicked a few times. Not worth mentioning on a reference site since it would give people the wrong idea that it's widely and intentionally used.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 15, 2022, 05:37:00 AM
Are these signs supported by NCDOT or SCDOT? They are increment so most likely NCDOT but the offset exit tab and partial yellow EXIT ONLY tab makes me question this. Otherwise, a very unique sign. Prior to 2012 in the street view, it was definitely a SCDOT sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0983749,-80.9318776,3a,53.1y,5.17h,104.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sO3uCQuD53qJSbK07WH_VlQ!2e0!5s20210501T000000!7i16384!8i8192

Same thing here. But back in the older street view, it was definitely SCDOT because the signs were extruded. But they have been replaced and are increment so I can't tell if they are supported by NCDOT or SCDOT because of the exit tabs are directly above the sign and not to the top right. Or could be just a unique sign supported by NCDOT but who knows...

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.504608,-79.3045148,3a,41.5y,241.5h,100.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD03celZuOXPLUNcPr-3Ncg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

To add, I'm pretty sure these signs were first supported by VDOT and later changed to NCDOT style.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5353588,-79.468754,3a,53.2y,19.16h,102.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNOVNY_kBdyoadYGkKB4UTQ!2e0!5s20110601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Same here.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5177059,-79.4747516,3a,24.6y,16.44h,97.65t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYxwtnmlstetXYozJquMhWA!2e0!5s20110601T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 15, 2022, 05:57:32 PM
Not "End Road Work" but simply "End" is used in Québec province.

(https://i.imgur.com/RilhHTf.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 16, 2022, 10:39:31 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 15, 2022, 05:57:32 PM
Not "End Road Work" but simply "End" is used in Québec province.

(https://i.imgur.com/RilhHTf.jpg)

....land sharks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on January 16, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
On 800 North in Hurricane UT, this seems to be telling drivers to close their eyes before cresting the hill.

(https://i.imgur.com/MBITBdx.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 16, 2022, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: Kniwt on January 16, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
On 800 North in Hurricane UT, this seems to be telling drivers to close their eyes before cresting the hill.

(https://i.imgur.com/MBITBdx.png)

"yolo" -this sign, probably
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on January 16, 2022, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on June 11, 2021, 03:30:04 PM
The sign is ambiguous.  If I do not have a Zone 1 permit and I park there, can I be ticketed?

Parking enforcement there is very enthusiastic.  I recommend not finding out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on January 17, 2022, 12:26:24 PM
Quote from: stevashe on June 11, 2021, 03:18:29 PM
So normally the area around the UW football stadium in Seattle has these rather unique parking signs that use decals that are stuck on each year that list specific dates and times when parking is prohibited that coincide with that season's schedule for home Huskies football games: https://goo.gl/maps/EoLLePmAgkf7ctYn7

But a couple weeks ago while on a bike ride I noticed that this past year a special decal was applied that simply states "no sports or event parking restrictions until further notice", which a rather bittersweet anomaly.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51241639715_775438f0bc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2m53NfP)

As this was just mentioned recently, I went back to the sign in qn.

Despite the slighlty ambiguous language, I can clearly see that this sign was meant to restrict access to parking during stadium events, unless you have a zone 1 permit.  Under normal circumstances, of course, there are regularly scheduled football games and perhaps other events (maybe graduation) where the circumstances would apply.  I think the university does a nice thing by actually posting the schedule right on the sign for the benefit of those who may not be familiar with the schedule.

During COVID, (or perhaps during the football off-season) a lot of the regularly scheduled events have been cancelled.  So instead of leaving the sign blank (basically telling parkers that you are on your own regarding finding out what is being scheduled at the stadium) they are telling you that there is no scheduled events any time soon, so the parking restriction simply does not apply. 

Of course, the green sign above, with a 2 hour restriction from 7AM - 10 PM would still apply, even if the stadium-specific restrictions do not.

I wish something like this was done more.  There are plenty of parking signs of ambiguous duration, and it is not always well known if the restrictions apply currently.  "School hours" is a hard one, because if you park near a school but are otherwise unconnected to it, do you really know the full schedule and understand which days are OK to park and which days aren't.  Another aspect is to know which holidays would be exempt from parking restrictions.  Practically everywhere the big holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving would be exempt from these restrictions (unless the restrictions were "all times" or "every day"), but what about a day like today (MLK day).  As most businesses are open and most people do work today, there is a good argument for normal parking restrictions, although I do know of a lot of places that exempt street cleaning and parking meters today.

So I like the idea of posting a specific schedule right on the sign.  Another acceptable means, IMO, would be a website link that is direct and specific to the parking restrictions.  Even though websites are not normally allowed on road signs, to prevent using internet while driving, I'd make an exception for parking signs, since a person can stop, check the website, and then continue driving if needed.  Heck, so many places with parking meters allow for parkmobile (or similar apps) that basically using internet while parking on the street is becoming a pretty regular thing anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 18, 2022, 01:05:32 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/gLqHXvgii4Kh2Prs8
Not so much in the real world, but it is interesting GSV got double vision of an I-78 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 18, 2022, 01:14:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 18, 2022, 01:05:32 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/gLqHXvgii4Kh2Prs8
Not so much in the real world, but it is interesting GSV got double vision of an I-78 shield.
Not too far where my Dad works but I can see the same with the trees too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 18, 2022, 12:28:57 PM
I thought this was some interesting signage. At the Boul. Alfred-Nobel and Av. Marie Curie roundabout in Montreal (https://goo.gl/maps/Eux9vmb9L2FguCgE7), the signage is exceptionally French-looking.

The roundabout was opened some time in the 1990s (not sure exactly when), well before there was any standardization of signage for roundabouts. I'm guessing the roundabout designers looked to France for signage assistance, although used Highway Gothic as would have been the rule.

The most French-looking thing about them is definitely the style of the sign; they are very thick. Not sure if they are backlit. But every original sign at the roundabout is of the same style, including the "roundabout ahead (https://goo.gl/maps/j1nWnJMqAnzBNend6)" signs on approach to the roundabout.

There is also this interesting graphic (https://goo.gl/maps/ViBVmFNCLajWdeG96) on the backside of the fingerpost-style directional signs.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828566971_eca62195fa_k.jpg)
French-style Signage in Quebec (https://flic.kr/p/2mXUXhg) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51828747676_ebfc112a53_h.jpg)
Cedez Le Passage Sign (https://flic.kr/p/2mXVSZS) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on January 18, 2022, 02:14:04 PM
Interesting find indeed. Some of the other signs nearby are also similarly thick and the give way signs (which are normally without text in Canada to my knowledge) have the text "CEDEZ LE PASSAGE" underneath, just like in France.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 18, 2022, 02:20:23 PM
Quote from: riiga on January 18, 2022, 02:14:04 PM
Interesting find indeed. Some of the other signs nearby are also similarly thick and the give way signs (which are normally without text in Canada to my knowledge) have the text "CEDEZ LE PASSAGE" underneath, just like in France.

Great point! I thought I remembered Quebec using that sign but upon further examination, it seems they do not. I edited my original post to add a picture of the sign.

Anyone know why road signs in France are so thick? Are they backlit?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 18, 2022, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 18, 2022, 02:20:23 PMAnyone know why road signs in France are so thick? Are they backlit?

Sometimes they are, but I think recent installs tend to use retroreflective sheeting instead--this is a general trend within the EU (and the UK) to save power and avoid the costs of installing and maintaining electrical service.

Signs tend to be presented as closed cases in urban streetscapes (regardless of whether internal lighting is used) to avoid the negative aesthetic impacts from exposed hardware.  This is true not just in France, but also in Spain.  In rural areas in both countries, non-designable signs also tend to have flanged edges to enhance the overall stiffness of the sign panel even when the hardware on the back side is uncovered.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 18, 2022, 03:55:58 PM
That's got to be pretty expensive to go to those lengths just to hide a few bolts. I imagine if a road agency tried that in the US the anti-government-spending crowd would have a cow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 18, 2022, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 18, 2022, 03:55:58 PMThat's got to be pretty expensive to go to those lengths just to hide a few bolts. I imagine if a road agency tried that in the US the anti-government-spending crowd would have a cow.

It does use more materials, but they are reusable (the sheeting can be lifted with high-pressure water, a technique that is also extensively used in sign shops in the US), and the signs come in standard sizes and shapes.  The French are pretty inventive about manipulating intercharacter spacing and using fraction-like abbreviations (e.g., "S/" for sur, "/S" for sous, "S/L" for sur la) to get destinations to fit.

As for the anti-government types in the US, what they don't know doesn't hurt them.  They'd get really excited if they knew how short our replacement cycles for retroreflective signs can be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 19, 2022, 12:17:47 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 18, 2022, 03:55:58 PM
That's got to be pretty expensive to go to those lengths just to hide a few bolts. I imagine if a road agency tried that in the US the anti-government-spending crowd would have a cow.

One could hide the bolts from view like they did (not on purpose) in West Lafayette, Indiana, with a new adhesive, reflective face applied to an existing mounted sign still on the pole.  And it will start peeling almost instantly!
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/30443186_10109955777234548_3983298703493431296_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=KRAhW-GnJ_8AX-gcWYJ&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT8k98loC89TRXlGFCoKRdcl-cmmfLZeqrEa5MSKVOlhsg&oe=620C4AB7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 19, 2022, 04:35:59 AM
I can't say for sure, but it looks like they put vinyl reflective letters over button copy in Pasco, Washington.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51829779006_54579372c3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mY2azq)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 19, 2022, 10:28:13 AM
Was wandering at Flickr and found this oddity from dougtone; this dated from 2012 on Morris County (NJ) 626. Personally, it's creative enough for exclusion from the Worst of Signs, but it's also a lot of information on a warning to digest at once (except from a stop), among its several design violations.

It appears to have modified a little in 2019, though somewhat covered by a tree. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9071096,-74.3950493,3a,35.9y,355.28h,87.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szQJe0p950d8uJsgsLlUVmA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Here's another example, with the diagram flipped when arriving from the opposite direction. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9083392,-74.3956102,3a,17.1y,162.12h,88.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seMIpZhm1iz1Kpih1mTh8eg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/8252/8453919813_ef3f229059_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/dT3xQa)
Morris County Route 626 - New Jersey (https://flic.kr/p/dT3xQa) by Doug Kerr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 20, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51830763236/in/photostream/
I see here they left out the mileage for Tillman, but both Charleston and Hilton Head have distance info on it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51832094748/in/dateposted-public/
In two places too. Not just one sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 20, 2022, 08:17:57 PM
One of the longest "NEXT XX km" distances: 67 km for curves on QC-389 NB just past Fire Lake.

https://goo.gl/maps/y6wJL9piVk6Dce1p9

(https://i.imgur.com/fQZ63aS.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 20, 2022, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 20, 2022, 08:17:57 PM
One of the longest "NEXT XX km" distances: 67 km for curves on QC-389 NB just past Fire Lake.

https://goo.gl/maps/y6wJL9piVk6Dce1p9

(https://i.imgur.com/fQZ63aS.png)
Reminds me of the one on AR 7 just north of I-40. Anyone know how many mile that caution sign reads?


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 20, 2022, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on January 20, 2022, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 20, 2022, 08:17:57 PM
One of the longest "NEXT XX km" distances: 67 km for curves on QC-389 NB just past Fire Lake.

https://goo.gl/maps/y6wJL9piVk6Dce1p9

(https://i.imgur.com/fQZ63aS.png)
Reminds me of the one on AR 7 just north of I-40. Anyone know how many mile that caution sign reads?

67 km is 41.5 miles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 20, 2022, 11:45:50 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 20, 2022, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on January 20, 2022, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 20, 2022, 08:17:57 PM
One of the longest "NEXT XX km" distances: 67 km for curves on QC-389 NB just past Fire Lake.

https://goo.gl/maps/y6wJL9piVk6Dce1p9

(https://i.imgur.com/fQZ63aS.png)
Reminds me of the one on AR 7 just north of I-40. Anyone know how many mile that caution sign reads?

67 km is 41.5 miles.
Yes. I meant does anyone know how many miles the sign on AR 7 reads.


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SidS1045 on January 21, 2022, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on January 16, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
On 800 North in Hurricane UT, this seems to be telling drivers to close their eyes before cresting the hill.

(https://i.imgur.com/MBITBdx.png)

There used to be a sign in Yonkers NY on the Saw Mill River Parkway southbound that said "Limited Sight Distance - 40 MPH" (normal speed limit was 55).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 21, 2022, 03:44:38 PM
Here are a few examples from a contract advertised just this week to show how the French use standard sizes on their case signs.

Here each line has intercharacter spacing adjusted by different amounts--109% (!!!) and 125%:

(https://i.imgur.com/s9WjAt9.png)

And each line on this one has a 125% adjustment, except for the bottom one, which has by far the longest destination and thus uses smaller letters for "connecting" words as well as a 70% adjustment:

(https://i.imgur.com/aWqPCkd.png)

Both lines have an 80% adjustment even though it's not actually required for the second ("MGNE" = montagne = mountain)--the width, a round 1600 mm, also matches all of the flag signs in the previous design:

(https://i.imgur.com/KC76rBx.png)

On the basis of this particular cahier de décors, I'd say 1300 mm, 1600 mm, and 2200 mm are standard widths for case signs.  (I suspect 1900 mm may also exist as a standard width.)

These designs are pattern-accurate and have been produced in Kadri Signal, which is one of three sign design packages in regular use in France--the others are Sherpa and Corine.  I don't know what name the owning agency uses these days (every two or three years the French seem to change the name of the ministry that holds the transport portfolio--I think now it's "Ecological transition" or some such nonsense), but it still has its HQ at the Hôtel Roquelaure in Paris, the traditional seat of the transport ministry, with most of the civil servants in the Grande Arche at La Défense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2022, 04:49:00 PM
Thank you for sharing -- and thank you for the information earlier that I did not reply to, the explanation is greatly appreciated.

Are those fingerpost-style signs always in increments of 300 mm? edit: missed that part of your post; disregard!

Clearly the roundabout designers in Quebec (for that roundabout that I shared earlier) took the same-width-for-all-signs idea and ran with it. I have to wonder if they straight-up borrowed signs from the French and applied their own face.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on January 21, 2022, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on January 21, 2022, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on January 16, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
On 800 North in Hurricane UT, this seems to be telling drivers to close their eyes before cresting the hill.

(https://i.imgur.com/MBITBdx.png)

There used to be a sign in Yonkers NY on the Saw Mill River Parkway southbound that said "Limited Sight Distance - 40 MPH" (normal speed limit was 55).

NYSDOT was big on "Limited Sight Distance"  with an advisory speed in the 80s and early 90s. They appeared all over the place upstate and then it suddenly stopped.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 21, 2022, 08:03:16 PM
"Limited Sight Distance" makes sense but "limit sight ahead" less so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 21, 2022, 08:19:17 PM
Limited Sight Distance (W14-4) was removed from MUTCD in the 1980s. https://trid.trb.org/view/270965#:~:text=As%20a%20result%20of%20this%20evaluation%20and%20of,the%20Manual%20on%20Uniform%20Traffic%20Control%20Devices%20%28MUTCD%29.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 22, 2022, 04:04:07 AM
This (https://goo.gl/maps/oHQwDLCocMT9SRHt5) speed limit sign was briefly used before the Phase 2 construction of the I-40/I-77 interchange. A speed limit sign in Franklin Gothic!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on January 22, 2022, 09:05:08 AM
A W7-6 "HILL BLOCKS VIEW"  is what the MUTCD would want them to use instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on January 22, 2022, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 22, 2022, 04:04:07 AM
This (https://goo.gl/maps/oHQwDLCocMT9SRHt5) speed limit sign was briefly used before the Phase 2 construction of the I-40/I-77 interchange. A speed limit sign in Franklin Gothic!

Franklin Gothic was also used for speed limit signs on the West Virginia Turnpike for a while.  I believe that most of those signs were removed when the (then) Turnpike Commission installed variable speed limit signs, but it seems to me that a few of them were still in place in the Beckley area a few years ago.  This section has been getting widened, so I suspect that they are all gone now (haven't been back since COVID started).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on January 22, 2022, 01:36:38 PM
Not really a highway sign, but in college I remember seeing a "Dip"  sign warning of exactly that ahead on a newly reconstructed road. Most notable because it was stolen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 24, 2022, 02:32:49 AM
I've seen this sign for a few years, but Google finally included it in an update:

https://goo.gl/maps/MDmmCcEZa9VXaL929

The distracting part of this type of sign is the increasingly older car model, but instead of fixing that they simply blacked out the window.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 24, 2022, 02:47:05 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 24, 2022, 02:32:49 AM
I've seen this sign for a few years, but Google finally included it in an update:

https://goo.gl/maps/MDmmCcEZa9VXaL929

The distracting part of this type of sign is the increasingly older car model, but instead of fixing that they simply blacked out the window.

It seems like a standard slippery when wet sign but with a vinyl cutting error.

But since we're speaking of older models of cars... (https://goo.gl/maps/HjK1Pg7FoSz8hMws6)

(https://i.imgur.com/OKs41aA.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 24, 2022, 03:42:13 AM
Compression, huh? Is that outside a dump with a car crusher that's overly eager for new material?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 24, 2022, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 24, 2022, 03:42:13 AM
Compression, huh? Is that outside a dump with a car crusher that's overly eager for new material?

Wearing compression socks while driving on this hill is highly recommended.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 24, 2022, 10:35:48 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 22, 2022, 04:04:07 AM
This (https://goo.gl/maps/oHQwDLCocMT9SRHt5) speed limit sign was briefly used before the Phase 2 construction of the I-40/I-77 interchange. A speed limit sign in Franklin Gothic!

Speed limit signs using the wrong font are fairly common. Usually they come from village or town public works' departments not knowing how or caring enough to select Series E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 25, 2022, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 24, 2022, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 24, 2022, 03:42:13 AM
Compression, huh? Is that outside a dump with a car crusher that's overly eager for new material?

Wearing compression socks while driving on this hill is highly recommended.

That much of an elevation change, huh?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 25, 2022, 09:28:30 PM
This (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2837857,-77.1253091,3a,80.6y,333.89h,96.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4ws2CBUqd8QyxRQi13-7zA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is a rare placement for an overhead sign. And when looking at it, it must have went up sometime in the early 2000s or so.

This (https://goo.gl/maps/gvbcngREgpbupxTD8) is the other side, which I believe has remain unchanged since 1961 or so.

When looking at the first link, It was probably replaced because it was either damaged when a car hit it but who knows. I've only lived in Greenville since 2008 so I am not entirely sure what the point of the replacement was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 25, 2022, 11:08:34 PM
What font is this?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JBy4KxiGQqmC8dSJ6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 25, 2022, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: plain on January 25, 2022, 11:08:34 PM
What font is this?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JBy4KxiGQqmC8dSJ6
Helvetica?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 12:10:17 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 25, 2022, 11:10:38 PM
Quote from: plain on January 25, 2022, 11:08:34 PM
What font is this?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JBy4KxiGQqmC8dSJ6
Helvetica?

Yep. Horizontally squished Helvetica, even.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:50:09 PM
Another term for "zipper merge". (https://goo.gl/maps/YSUt7zRHtkNMJCNw5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.

Who says it's better?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.

Who says it's better?
Some other people in the world!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.

Who says it's better?
Some other people in the world!

Who are they? I'm pretty sure you've made these people up and they don't exist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 27, 2022, 02:56:21 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.

Who says it's better?
Some other people in the world!

Who are they? I'm pretty sure you've made these people up and they don't exist.
My friends.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 27, 2022, 04:01:42 AM
That sign on the left is sort of NJTPish.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 27, 2022, 05:14:16 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 27, 2022, 02:56:21 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.

Who says it's better?
Some other people in the world!

Who are they? I'm pretty sure you've made these people up and they don't exist.
My friends.

Your friends have an opinion on an incorrect interpretation of the MUTCD?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 27, 2022, 07:13:00 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 27, 2022, 05:14:16 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 27, 2022, 02:56:21 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2022, 08:40:23 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on January 26, 2022, 07:04:48 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)
Seen some in Delaware and Florida. I don't see why that's better compared to the other signs that I see.

Who says it's better?
Some other people in the world!

Who are they? I'm pretty sure you've made these people up and they don't exist.
My friends.

Your friends have an opinion on an incorrect interpretation of the MUTCD?
Yes because they think it's fancy looking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 27, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
For SCDOT along I-95 the yellow black warning signs of the pier locations, is odd. Usually the piers are painted black and white instead.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51845742614_68482b4ab3_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 27, 2022, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 27, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
For SCDOT along I-95 the yellow black warning signs of the pier locations, is odd. Usually the piers are painted black and white instead.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51845742614_68482b4ab3_c.jpg)
Well North Carolina uses black and yellow so it isn't no different
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 27, 2022, 05:35:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 27, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
For SCDOT along I-95 the yellow black warning signs of the pier locations, is odd. Usually the piers are painted black and white instead.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51845742614_68482b4ab3_c.jpg)
Those markers are usually used when there is a narrowing of the road or shoulder.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on January 28, 2022, 01:35:45 AM
"Right turn on red after stop" signs at a regular traffic light intersection.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2874438,-95.5824595,3a,37.5y,292.71h,109.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLT05_Gt-RxxPTZIgTgEeeA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 28, 2022, 11:39:48 AM
^^ That sign is rather small for that message.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 28, 2022, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 27, 2022, 05:35:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 27, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
For SCDOT along I-95 the yellow black warning signs of the pier locations, is odd. Usually the piers are painted black and white instead.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51845742614_68482b4ab3_c.jpg)
Those markers are usually used when there is a narrowing of the road or shoulder.

Those object markers are meant to be used when there is a hazard or obstruction in or adjacent to the roadway (not sure that narrowing of road/shoulder qualifies without an accompanying obstruction). But marking of bridge piers is one specific use case mentioned in the MUTCD, and the manual also mentions it is permissible to paint bridge piers in a pattern similar to these Type 3 markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 28, 2022, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 27, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
For SCDOT along I-95 the yellow black warning signs of the pier locations, is odd. Usually the piers are painted black and white instead.


Up until the early 1980s or thereabouts, the bridge piers in SC were painted black and white.

Faint remnants still exist of this:
https://goo.gl/maps/4umifS6je9zofBd88

Here's one on I-95 still that way:  https://goo.gl/maps/wrjkUtAoQ8URK98u9

When they changed to yellow and black, they were still putting them on the piers.  Here is an example, photo by Bill Manning, courtesy Gribblenation:
http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i95n-exit160b-manning.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on January 29, 2022, 02:28:35 AM
Interesting. We still paint hazards next to or in the middle of the road black and white here in Russia. Sometimes even the curb or crash barrier is painted black and white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on January 29, 2022, 06:19:16 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/dvdyuH64ay1sC8Vu9

That "SELMA" is so tiny and you can barely read it. I wonder which engineer even decided to put a tiny ass sign on that big one! Other than that, this is an old sign.

Crazy, Imo. Practically unreadable.

This (https://goo.gl/maps/z3tehNZUjWPx4gA1A) is how it should be done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 30, 2022, 01:32:46 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 28, 2022, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 27, 2022, 10:15:54 AM
For SCDOT along I-95 the yellow black warning signs of the pier locations, is odd. Usually the piers are painted black and white instead.


Up until the early 1980s or thereabouts, the bridge piers in SC were painted black and white.

Faint remnants still exist of this:
https://goo.gl/maps/4umifS6je9zofBd88

Here's one on I-95 still that way:  https://goo.gl/maps/wrjkUtAoQ8URK98u9

When they changed to yellow and black, they were still putting them on the piers.  Here is an example, photo by Bill Manning, courtesy Gribblenation:
http://www.gribblenation.com/scroads/photos/i95n-exit160b-manning.jpg

Mass used very tall (for their width) skinny black-and-white markers at bridge piers for years but stopped by the 80s as I recall, using more conventional yellow-and-black markers.  Maybe they lasted later, but it seemed like the 80s
MA 62 at US 1 had an example in each direction less than 10 years ago but they are now gone.
https://goo.gl/maps/FiPzmdp6Y4EL7Zr17
https://goo.gl/maps/pJG7d1BkEhdtxMtY6

Some do still remain, though, like these in Lynnfield going under 128:
https://goo.gl/maps/FRteEHiNrCMVGR4d9
https://goo.gl/maps/67Eegj9ABHk5qz6n7

And others around too.  https://goo.gl/maps/Pagx97ZsXSnvEn4cA
https://goo.gl/maps/6vRvTSQ6et3trEYS9
https://goo.gl/maps/SZYgJ74zZfYyymp98

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
Not ugly or strictly unique, but more rare (https://goo.gl/maps/gXTWJgUfkg2SCfrd9) if you know anything about how Texas signs it's Farm-to-Market roads on BGS.  There are a few out there like this. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 30, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
Not ugly or strictly unique, but more rare (https://goo.gl/maps/gXTWJgUfkg2SCfrd9) if you know anything about how Texas sign's is Farm-to-Market roads on BGS.  There are a few out there like this. 

I've seen a few like that, but they're rare.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3851/33570045302_150a403160_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/T9tfUw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 30, 2022, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 11:33:38 AMNot ugly or strictly unique, but more rare (https://goo.gl/maps/gXTWJgUfkg2SCfrd9) if you know anything about how Texas signs its Farm-to-Market roads on BGS.  There are a few out there like this.

I've seen a few like that, but they're rare.

Enjoy them while they last--they were part of an Atlanta District experiment in the mid-noughties and most of them are reaching replacement age.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on January 31, 2022, 12:04:46 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)

Once again, yet another example of WSDOT's unnecessary sign replacements. There was nothing wrong with the old signs. They could have simply added a new sign for the "B" exit in the middle of the gantry. And a new sign with a horizontal tab bar.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on January 31, 2022, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 30, 2022, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 11:33:38 AMNot ugly or strictly unique, but more rare (https://goo.gl/maps/gXTWJgUfkg2SCfrd9) if you know anything about how Texas signs its Farm-to-Market roads on BGS.  There are a few out there like this.

I've seen a few like that, but they're rare.

Enjoy them while they last--they were part of an Atlanta District experiment in the mid-noughties and most of them are reaching replacement age.
Your mention of the Atlanta district as well as my prior experience in other TxDOT districts has me wondering something. In Texas, it seems each district has its own quirks (such as Houston District's fetish with putting object markers on sign posts and this quirk with Atlanta District), but unless I'm missing something, it seems other states are generally pretty consistent district-to-district. I know Illinois's districts tend to vary in terms of freeway signage, but I'm not aware of other states with inconsistencies between districts. Is this just a Texas and Illinois thing, or am I mistaken?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 31, 2022, 01:53:21 AM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on January 31, 2022, 12:04:46 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on January 26, 2022, 06:58:08 PM
Google finally caught up to this mess:

Oversized mixed case, no horizontal tab bar on the left sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Asc6Cf8MrN7YBLzs8)

Once again, yet another example of WSDOT's unnecessary sign replacements. There was nothing wrong with the old signs. They could have simply added a new sign for the "B" exit in the middle of the gantry. And a new sign with a horizontal tab bar.

They did have to put up a new sign for 37B, a new exit ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 31, 2022, 02:34:37 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 31, 2022, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 30, 2022, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 30, 2022, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 30, 2022, 11:33:38 AMNot ugly or strictly unique, but more rare (https://goo.gl/maps/gXTWJgUfkg2SCfrd9) if you know anything about how Texas signs its Farm-to-Market roads on BGS.  There are a few out there like this.

I've seen a few like that, but they're rare.

Enjoy them while they last--they were part of an Atlanta District experiment in the mid-noughties and most of them are reaching replacement age.
Your mention of the Atlanta district as well as my prior experience in other TxDOT districts has me wondering something. In Texas, it seems each district has its own quirks (such as Houston District's fetish with putting object markers on sign posts and this quirk with Atlanta District), but unless I'm missing something, it seems other states are generally pretty consistent district-to-district. I know Illinois's districts tend to vary in terms of freeway signage, but I'm not aware of other states with inconsistencies between districts. Is this just a Texas and Illinois thing, or am I mistaken?

Oklahoma DOT's divisions do have their quirks (Division 7's use of year stickers is the main example that jumps out in my mind), but the organization as a whole is so inconsistent that it's hard to tell whether any given deviation from the norm is a district thing or the result of the signage engineer having horfed down an edible on the way into work. Due to the lack of contractor QA, many of the things that would appear to be divisional variance are actually contractor variance, and only appear to be regional because the contractor only bids on projects in a given region.

New York is usually the canonical example given for region-based variance.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 31, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on January 31, 2022, 12:19:43 AMYour mention of the Atlanta district as well as my prior experience in other TxDOT districts has me wondering something. In Texas, it seems each district has its own quirks (such as Houston District's fetish with putting object markers on sign posts and this quirk with Atlanta District), but unless I'm missing something, it seems other states are generally pretty consistent district-to-district. I know Illinois's districts tend to vary in terms of freeway signage, but I'm not aware of other states with inconsistencies between districts. Is this just a Texas and Illinois thing, or am I mistaken?

There are plenty of other states with this type of variation.  Scott5411 has already mentioned New York, and California is another example.

In terms of signing, much of it has to do with whether signing plans are developed at the district level or at DOT HQ.  The DOTs in smaller and less populous states tend to follow the latter model, while TxDOT, Illinois DOT, NYSDOT, and Caltrans all delegate it to the districts, with varying degrees of supervision and control from HQ.  Sometimes districts are also allowed to develop their own engineering standards.  Caltrans District 6 (covering Bakersfield) had its own standard plan sheets for the federal-standard gore sign (other Caltrans districts used a smaller design specific to California), TxDOT's Houston District had its own sheets for arrow-block diagrammatics (I suspect they've now been cancelled since it has been at least 10 years since I last saw them), and Illinois DOT District 1 (covering Chicago) has its own signing and marking manual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 31, 2022, 02:45:38 PM
The easiest way to tell if you have crossed a highway district boundary in Kentucky is by looking at the signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 01, 2022, 02:12:10 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/DKEjaekWjwsCvPpz7

This intersection has tons of interesting signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on February 01, 2022, 09:21:26 PM
These appeared within the last couple of weeks as the new interchange at GA 316 and Harbins Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9734642,-83.8983583,1055m/data=!3m1!1e3) replaced the former traffic signal there. Apologies for the poor quality, but we were facing directly into the sun and it took every bit of photo-editing power my Galaxy S10 could muster to make them this clear. It also dramatizes the fact that there are visibility issues in addition to the comprehension issues I'm about to discuss.

This sign is at the beginning of an auxiliary lane added to develop the capacity of the two-lane, two-destination offramp ahead. There's an MUTCD-compliant way to sign this condition-- as it happens, it was used a few miles up the road a couple of years ago (https://goo.gl/maps/bHpSTLQCSSEu2xir9). Nobody really likes it, though, and GDOT usually does something else, such as this (https://goo.gl/maps/RGmKL61YsBiJYo3J6) or even this (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.017497,-84.0636742,3a,23y,212.86h,88.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seoBXnLgeYFOVy9kL9dmr1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

Here, though, GDOT decided to go with an MUTCD-defiant unisign, a concept that, as I understand it, proved inferior to APL's in whatever testing was done, which is why APLs are in the MUTCD and unisigns like this aren't. The divider line, rather than being placed directly above the center arrow to indicate an option lane, is located to the left of said arrow, indicating, incorrectly, that two lanes go to the offramp and only one continues on the mainline. Really, it would've been more accurate to use a conventional (MUTCD-defiant) sign like this (https://goo.gl/maps/754VPytX8b3SQP3PA) with an arrowless pullthrough. I guess that they did it this way because they really, really wanted to inform drivers that the offramp splits later on, causing the Sugarloaf Parkway text to displace the dividing line from its proper location. Ironically and infuriatingly, the Sugarloaf Parkway branch of the offramp is closed, with Sugarloaf traffic using a temporary offramp in the vicinity of the bridge we see in the distance. 
(https://i.imgur.com/9v5mG3s.jpg)


Next comes an APL at the exit divergence. Again, the Sugarloaf Parkway text displaces the divider line to the left of its correct location. Note to designers: The dividing line on an APL ALWAYS goes in the crotch of the split arrow. Here, IMO, they would've done better to omit it altogether. Or, better, they could've gone with

Sugarloaf Parkway
Harbins Road

and not had a problem.

Also, as I mentioned before, the Sugarloaf Parkway branch of the offramp isn't open, and drivers bound there need to stay on the mainline until the vicinity of the bridge. They should've blacked out the curved part of the split arrow, not the straight part. WTF were they thinking?

But, wait: there's more: There's no reason to encourage drivers to use both lanes of the ramp because the ramp enters a tortuous one-lane detour shortly after the not-yet-operational split. Wow.
(https://i.imgur.com/fkpCOD4.jpg)


One more thing, and this is design rather than signage: They really shouldn't have combined Sugarloaf and Harbins onto a single offramp. As you can see, it needlessly complicates signage and operations. Besides, they're separate exits in the other direction anyway.

One more one more thing: Sugarloaf Parkway, a Gwinnett County project completed almost ten years ago, also uses unisigns (https://goo.gl/maps/E1h7rpLimxRUZstU6), and for no apparent reason. Perhaps they had a hand in this mess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 02, 2022, 10:26:54 AM
This one seems to be a feature that SC practices. Painting the bridge pier columns with striped warning paint.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51855576512_9f154f3d21_3k.jpg)


Here is  another one interesting concept. Use two arrows for three separate points.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51857331531_5bb6754d6f_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 05, 2022, 08:15:49 AM
A sign can look odd when a former route was on this.

US-311 was greened out when it was truncated.

https://goo.gl/maps/uG4GUNFzGXiPLWwv7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 05, 2022, 10:22:11 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/takyh7dW554xs6wQ8

I like the E-W lettering next to the long arrow on the directional guide for So. Orange Ave. 
This type of sign assembly was common in Essex County, NJ when I grew up nearby in Union County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 05, 2022, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 05, 2022, 10:22:11 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/takyh7dW554xs6wQ8

I like the E-W lettering next to the long arrow on the directional guide for So. Orange Ave. 
This type of sign assembly was common in Essex County, NJ when I grew up nearby in Union County.
I've been in that area before, yeah, it's neat of how all of those are common in New Jersey.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on February 05, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
This is pretty ugly IMO...
(https://imgur.com/YiuNQu4.jpg)

Seen on US 79 in Round Rock, TX:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5245619,-97.6336539,3a,15y,275.62h,89.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sihM76agZkLgcMALbiXkyEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It would probably be fine if not for the inexplicably capitalized "SIGNAL".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 05, 2022, 07:23:38 PM
Should overhead signs have NORTH, EAST, WEST, and SOUTH directionals on them? Because the left sign lacks it and it's relatively new.

https://goo.gl/maps/CExBazdKNJrJnxyb8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on February 05, 2022, 08:36:56 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 05, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
This is pretty ugly IMO...
(https://imgur.com/YiuNQu4.jpg)

Seen on US 79 in Round Rock, TX:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.5245619,-97.6336539,3a,15y,275.62h,89.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sihM76agZkLgcMALbiXkyEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It would probably be fine if not for the inexplicably capitalized "SIGNAL".

Almost reminds me of this BGS in South Hill, VA that instructs motorists to "TURN RT 1/4 MILE" if they want to use US 58 BUS

https://maps.app.goo.gl/D98qCAzyVp2mzwnXA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 06, 2022, 05:57:09 PM
This (https://goo.gl/maps/hT1ya6RBEZkcLcNX6) US-61 shield!   X-(
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 06, 2022, 08:25:01 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 05, 2022, 07:23:38 PM
Should overhead signs have NORTH, EAST, WEST, and SOUTH directionals on them? Because the left sign lacks it and it's relatively new.

https://goo.gl/maps/CExBazdKNJrJnxyb8

It's common that pull-through signs don't have cardinal directions because there is only one choice -- the direction in which you're already heading.  It makes sense for the US-421 signs to have a cardinal direction because there was a different exit for its other direction at exit 212A.

Here's another example on the same sign in Novi, MI.  There is a different exit for northbound M-5 in this interchange, so it makes sense that this sign specifies the cardinal direction for this exit.  But there is only one direction choice for I-696.  I would prefer to see a cardinal direction shown for each route, but I understand why it wasn't done that way.

(https://i.imgur.com/eB8ajfB.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on February 06, 2022, 09:22:33 PM
I'm not gonna bother with uploading a photo because absolutely no one reacted to my previous posts about this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2703554#msg2703554), but I'm gonna post about it again because I'm in shock about what I saw today.

This afternoon, I returned to the GA 316-Harbins Road interchange, mainly to see if there were any more MS 316 shields in addition to the one I found last time (there were!). I also had another look at the westbound 316 approach to the interchange, the one shown in the photo. Now the new ramp to Sugarloaf Parkway is open, so my previous objection to having the wrong side of the split arrow covered up is no longer operative. However, the cover is now gone... and so is the straight-ahead arm of the arrow! Either they removed it, or there was nothing under that cover.

After I posted the post I linked above, I emailed my contact at GDOT and included a link to it (I'm under the impression that nonmembers can read posts, though they can't post themselves). I never heard back and I don't know if he or anyone else at GDOT read it, but this'll be the second time I've complained to GDOT about an incorrect APL and they responded by making it worse. WTF?

(https://i.imgur.com/fkpCOD4.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 12:33:35 AM
^^^
I'm not sure why they didn't make the Harbins Road exit a separate sign panel with its own right arrow, and then have the Sugarloaf Pkwy exit signed as part of the through movement, with a straight/right arrow. In the past when I have mocked up my own signs, that's usually how I differentiated splits that otherwise would have been difficult to sign with a single panel.

If the FHWA has a rule requiring a single panel for the entire assembly, that rule needs to be dropped.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 07, 2022, 05:15:24 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on February 06, 2022, 09:22:33 PM
I'm not gonna bother with uploading a photo because absolutely no one reacted to my previous posts about this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2703554#msg2703554), but I'm gonna post about it again because I'm in shock about what I saw today.

This afternoon, I returned to the GA 316-Harbins Road interchange, mainly to see if there were any more MS 316 shields in addition to the one I found last time (there were!). I also had another look at the westbound 316 approach to the interchange, the one shown in the photo. Now the new ramp to Sugarloaf Parkway is open, so my previous objection to having the wrong side of the split arrow covered up is no longer operative. However, the cover is now gone... and so is the straight-ahead arm of the arrow! Either they removed it, or there was nothing under that cover.

It seems that at least once a year, Georgia post some weird exit-only arrow that's in the wrong place. I'm not a fan of the huge APL signs, but if you're going to make your own alternative, at least do it correctly!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on February 07, 2022, 05:52:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 12:33:35 AM
^^^
I'm not sure why they didn't make the Harbins Road exit a separate sign panel with its own right arrow, and then have the Sugarloaf Pkwy exit signed as part of the through movement, with a straight/right arrow. In the past when I have mocked up my own signs, that's usually how I differentiated splits that otherwise would have been difficult to sign with a single panel.

I don't understand what you're talking about. Why would you make Harbins Road a separate sign panel when Sugarloaf traffic uses the same ramp? Do you mean something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/rPrT49FC8Tj475VG9)?

Initially, the problem was that they covered the wrong arm of the split arrow and directed Sugarloaf traffic to a ramp that was closed and away from the temporary ramp that was open. Now the problem is that they removed one arm of the split arrow, probably at considerable expense, and created a noncompliant Frankensign that shows the mainline as having only one lane instead of two. Having a  separate panel for Harbins Road would be irrelevant at best.

:hmmm:

QuoteIf the FHWA has a rule requiring a single panel for the entire assembly, that rule needs to be dropped.

As active in this stuff as you are, you should be fairly conversant with the rules. Besides, I pointed out in my earlier post that there is an MUTCD-compliant way of signing this condition (https://goo.gl/maps/bMSz3jjvrWS9hoPD9), and it was used recently on GA 316 a few miles west of Harbins. Why not just use that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on February 07, 2022, 07:25:03 AM
Quote from: formulanone
It seems that at least once a year, Georgia post some weird exit-only arrow that's in the wrong place. I'm not a fan of the huge APL signs, but if you're going to make your own alternative, at least do it correctly!

I know, right? The other weird thing is that some things they do come across as policy decisions that, while wrong, were at least carefully considered. Others, such as this, have to be the result of assigning a not-that-difficult task to people who have no more idea what they're doing than most laypeople. There's no way that the task of BGS design in Georgia is so Herculean that there's no way a competent person could be assigned to the task. So, why don't they do it?

:banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on February 07, 2022, 05:52:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 12:33:35 AM
^^^
I'm not sure why they didn't make the Harbins Road exit a separate sign panel with its own right arrow, and then have the Sugarloaf Pkwy exit signed as part of the through movement, with a straight/right arrow. In the past when I have mocked up my own signs, that's usually how I differentiated splits that otherwise would have been difficult to sign with a single panel.

I don't understand what you're talking about. Why would you make Harbins Road a separate sign panel when Sugarloaf traffic uses the same ramp? Do you mean something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/rPrT49FC8Tj475VG9)?

Initially, the problem was that they covered the wrong arm of the split arrow and directed Sugarloaf traffic to a ramp that was closed and away from the temporary ramp that was open. Now the problem is that they removed one arm of the split arrow, probably at considerable expense, and created a noncompliant Frankensign that shows the mainline as having only one lane instead of two. Having a  separate panel for Harbins Road would be irrelevant at best.

I think I may have misunderstood the split. Do both lanes go to Harbins Road with only the left lane going to Sugarloaf Pkwy? I thought only the right lane went to Harbins Road, and only the left lane went to Sugarloaf Pkwy.

Quote from: Tom958 on February 07, 2022, 05:52:12 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 12:33:35 AM
If the FHWA has a rule requiring a single panel for the entire assembly, that rule needs to be dropped.

As active in this stuff as you are, you should be fairly conversant with the rules. Besides, I pointed out in my earlier post that there is an MUTCD-compliant way of signing this condition (https://goo.gl/maps/bMSz3jjvrWS9hoPD9), and it was used recently on GA 316 a few miles west of Harbins. Why not just use that?

That point was based on my potential misunderstanding of the split, so I will hold further comment on this until I understand the exit better.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on February 07, 2022, 02:37:51 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 02:01:49 PMI think I may have misunderstood the split. Do both lanes go to Harbins Road with only the left lane going to Sugarloaf Pkwy? I thought only the right lane went to Harbins Road, and only the left lane went to Sugarloaf Pkwy.

Yes: both to Harbins, and the left splits to serve Sugarloaf as well.

When I took the photo, the new Sugarloaf ramp wasn't open yet and Sugarloaf was served by a temporary ramp direct from the mainline in the vicinity of the bridge (I'm not sure exactly where, but there was a reasonable weaving stretch along the CD between the two interchanges). Thus, it would've been a great idea to cover the curved part of the split arrow and possibly the "Sugarloaf Pkwy" legend on the APL until the new ramp was open so as to avoid misleading drivers bound for Sugarloaf into taking the Harbins ramp.

Now there's one straight arrow for 29-316, a curved arrow for Sugarloaf, and another curved arrow for Harbins. The idea of using a split arrow to clarify how the option lane works has been discarded along with the idea of having one arrow per lane.

If we were on Facebook, I'd illustrate this reply with that gif of a space dog floating in zero gravity and captioned, "I have no idea what I'm doing."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 03:12:53 PM
I appreciate the additional information, thank you. I think your suggestion of the MUTCD-compliant method (second half of reply #7034) makes the most sense.

Quote from: Tom958 on February 07, 2022, 02:37:51 PM
If we were on Facebook, I'd illustrate this reply with that gif of a space dog floating in zero gravity and captioned, "I have no idea what I'm doing."

I gotcha :-D

(https://c.tenor.com/tLaHoa7LvrIAAAAd/space-dog.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 09, 2022, 10:33:21 AM
Where the fuck is the US-70 shield?

This sign doesn't have it - https://goo.gl/maps/xrMAKVDvDYjgTaBq6

But this one does? https://goo.gl/maps/5Jq4z2bjgSFabx4n6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on February 09, 2022, 05:38:55 PM
Sorry for the late reply, but now I'm glad I waited...

Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2022, 03:12:53 PM
I appreciate the additional information, thank you. I think your suggestion of the MUTCD-compliant method (second half of reply #7034) makes the most sense.

Ironically, it'd be more feasible to use a unisign with a divider line on a conventional sign like that, with less constraint on the placement of the legends.

Today I got a response from my contact at GDOT. He said that the matter was under discussion between the district office and Gwinnett County, which indeed has lead role in the project, and they'd follow up with me presently. His tone was pleasant and cordial, and I replied that I was optimistic that the matter would be resolved satisfactorily. I'm not, though. I think they'll restore the missing straight-ahead arm of the split arrow and maybe-just-maybe remove the misplaced divider line. We'll see, I guess.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 09, 2022, 10:25:03 PM
Funny how there's still the old sign to the left and the newer one to the right :D

https://goo.gl/maps/48nKp85hbsiN26rMA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on February 10, 2022, 12:32:43 PM
Drove by this one yesterday and didn't remember noticing it before.  Huge CO58 sign with a relatively itty-bitty West sign.

(https://i.postimg.cc/VN51rMPK/Weird-CO58-Sign.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 10, 2022, 10:07:57 PM
Kearny Villa Road, from the same people who brought you Woodhaven Road. (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8605059,-117.1172742,3a,75y,228.18h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR57FdxVzxkw8Ehm6aPfncg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(Yes, a freeway is a type of road but I'm talking colloquialisms here.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 10, 2022, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 10, 2022, 10:07:57 PM
Kearny Villa Road, from the same people who brought you Woodhaven Road. (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8605059,-117.1172742,3a,75y,228.18h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR57FdxVzxkw8Ehm6aPfncg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(Yes, a freeway is a type of road but I'm talking colloquialisms here.)

Isn't that the original freeway through there (former US 395)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 10, 2022, 10:11:48 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on February 10, 2022, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 10, 2022, 10:07:57 PM
Kearny Villa Road, from the same people who brought you Woodhaven Road. (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8605059,-117.1172742,3a,75y,228.18h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR57FdxVzxkw8Ehm6aPfncg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(Yes, a freeway is a type of road but I'm talking colloquialisms here.)

Isn't that the original freeway through there (former US 395)?
I dunno. Looked like a normal sign for an odd road, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on February 10, 2022, 10:49:41 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 10, 2022, 10:11:48 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on February 10, 2022, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 10, 2022, 10:07:57 PM
Kearny Villa Road, from the same people who brought you Woodhaven Road. (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8605059,-117.1172742,3a,75y,228.18h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR57FdxVzxkw8Ehm6aPfncg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(Yes, a freeway is a type of road but I'm talking colloquialisms here.)

Isn't that the original freeway through there (former US 395)?
I dunno. Looked like a normal sign for an odd road, though.
It was part of the old 395 Freeway and was bypassed when they built I-15.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 11, 2022, 12:33:15 PM
Actually, that was also I-15, at least for awhile. I-15 took over the 1965 US 395 freeway alignment and bypassed itself in 1982 (see the M postmiles on the section of I-15 through Miramar Way, and there are still surviving I-15 postmiles on Kearny Villa: http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/395/old/u3/#img_30 ). It is now a city street; I suspect these signs were Caltrans-erected as part of the relinquishment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on February 14, 2022, 12:59:43 AM
A permanent-ish "COVID-19 testing" sign on a signal wire. Madison Street in Seattle:

(https://i.imgur.com/UVWcClM.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 14, 2022, 01:54:25 AM
Getting one step closer to the future I envisioned in Fictional Highways:

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 12, 2020, 06:27:29 AM
There is a bit of levity on the forum when OkDOT posts signs throughout the state pointing people to "karonisviris testing" sites.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 16, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
I feel like the older sign was better because it was all capitalized. Now they replaced it with the one that has no flashing lights and is in lowercase letters. Not a huge fan of that.

https://goo.gl/maps/FGgdRfK34C9DoV2j8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chays on February 17, 2022, 05:02:53 PM
This intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/rL14BQ7ZWAsaHNGB9) near Portland, IA, has some strange miniature signs attached to regular signage. There are several yellow diamonds with arrows and what appears to be a miniature stop sign (can only see from the rear). There is also a similar yellow diamond with an arrow across the street. These have been here for years it seems, and this appears to be the only intersection. Anyone seen anything like this before?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 17, 2022, 05:07:29 PM
^^ I've seen those for snowmobile trails.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 17, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 16, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
I feel like the older sign was better because it was all capitalized. Now they replaced it with the one that has no flashing lights and is in lowercase letters. Not a huge fan of that.

https://goo.gl/maps/FGgdRfK34C9DoV2j8

Mixed-case text has been proven easier to read in visibility tests.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on February 17, 2022, 11:39:11 PM
CA 83-CA 66 on a uni-sign at Foothill Boulevard and Euclid Avenue.  Oddly both highways have been relinquished from Upland and CA 83 never was actually built north of Foothill:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51888841505_68b221d630_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n4eSNn)0 (https://flic.kr/p/2n4eSNn) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 18, 2022, 02:56:44 PM
No, it's just relinquished. CA 83 extended originally to CA 30. Only the CA 30 to CA 210 portion is unconstructed, even though the alignment exists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 18, 2022, 06:35:55 PM
Chick Fil A created a new interstate in Lynnwood, WA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51888934617_07e5281850_5k.jpg)
Chick Fil A "5 North" sign (https://flic.kr/p/2n4fmtK) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 18, 2022, 11:45:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 18, 2022, 06:35:55 PM
Chick Fil A created a new interstate in Lynnwood, WA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51888934617_07e5281850_5k.jpg)
Chick Fil A "5 North" sign (https://flic.kr/p/2n4fmtK) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
almost looks like a detour sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on February 19, 2022, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 16, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
I feel like the older sign was better because it was all capitalized. Now they replaced it with the one that has no flashing lights and is in lowercase letters. Not a huge fan of that.

https://goo.gl/maps/FGgdRfK34C9DoV2j8

lowercase is always nice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 22, 2022, 09:37:07 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/127mEECp57XB88jq5
A leftover US 1 WEST shield in Norwalk, CT.

https://goo.gl/maps/wkCSFYJsudJG4wcj6
Another one that hasn't been changed also in Norwalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 22, 2022, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 19, 2022, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 16, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
I feel like the older sign was better because it was all capitalized. Now they replaced it with the one that has no flashing lights and is in lowercase letters. Not a huge fan of that.

https://goo.gl/maps/FGgdRfK34C9DoV2j8

lowercase is always nice.
Then they should do the same for STOP signs and other warning signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jlam on February 22, 2022, 11:57:51 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 22, 2022, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on February 19, 2022, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 16, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
I feel like the older sign was better because it was all capitalized. Now they replaced it with the one that has no flashing lights and is in lowercase letters. Not a huge fan of that.

https://goo.gl/maps/FGgdRfK34C9DoV2j8

lowercase is always nice.
Then they should do the same for STOP signs and other warning signs.
So a passive-aggressive stop sign.

"I would like it if you stop, but you don't have to."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 22, 2022, 01:44:43 PM
^^ That reminds me of an old urban legend that stop signs with borders are optional.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 22, 2022, 09:14:55 PM
I can say this WEIGH STATION sign is unique for North Carolina. Never IN MY LIFE seen an extruded sign in this state. Unless I think it's a different construction company, but who knows.....

And yes, odd indeed.

https://goo.gl/maps/hWRmKAjVFZXGP6R58
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 22, 2022, 09:53:08 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on February 22, 2022, 09:14:55 PM
I can say this WEIGH STATION sign is unique for North Carolina. Never IN MY LIFE seen an extruded sign in this state. Unless I think it's a different construction company, but who knows.....

And yes, odd indeed.

https://goo.gl/maps/hWRmKAjVFZXGP6R58

That's definitely the kind of sign that really makes you wonder either how it got manufactured. The squared edges are the really standout feature.

Like you, I'm not used to seeing extruded panel signs (WA uses incremental panel signs), but we don't round the edges of our signs, so you have to pay attention to spot anything unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on February 25, 2022, 07:44:19 PM
Saw these absurdly undersized LGSs on TX 146 this past week:
Southbound is just small... (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4001738,-94.95178,3a,38.6y,206.88h,85.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLifrqk4HYF50U3wcaZubnw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(https://imgur.com/Zi3KJwf.jpg)

but northbound is also a bit more squished... (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.3918038,-94.950996,3a,16.8y,22.69h,89.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNNeXi6x1NDR3e9cTfCyBxA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
(https://imgur.com/vS5ckT1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 26, 2022, 10:16:36 PM
An older picture (2017) of a rare Québec stop ahead sign with "STOP" instead of "ARRÊT" on a snowmobile trail in my hometown.

(https://i.imgur.com/o8lWcvW.jpg)

While it is a standard sign in the Tome V, sharing D-10-1 with the "ARRÊT" variant, the stop sign in question was a standard "ARRÊT", and all other stop signs say "ARRÊT" too (with matching stop ahead signs), so this is a strange outlier.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 26, 2022, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on February 26, 2022, 10:16:36 PMAn older picture (2017) of a rare Québec stop ahead sign with "STOP" instead of "ARRÊT" on a snowmobile trail in my hometown.

(https://i.imgur.com/o8lWcvW.jpg)

While it is a standard sign in the Tome V, sharing D-10-1 with the "ARRÊT" variant, the stop sign in question was a standard "ARRÊT", and all other stop signs say "ARRÊT" too (with matching stop ahead signs), so this is a strange outlier.

There is another way in which it is strange:  it uses Series C instead of D (Québec requires the latter for "STOP").

(https://i.imgur.com/lbtXSmk.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 26, 2022, 11:00:06 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 26, 2022, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on February 26, 2022, 10:16:36 PMAn older picture (2017) of a rare Québec stop ahead sign with "STOP" instead of "ARRÊT" on a snowmobile trail in my hometown.

(image)

While it is a standard sign in the Tome V, sharing D-10-1 with the "ARRÊT" variant, the stop sign in question was a standard "ARRÊT", and all other stop signs say "ARRÊT" too (with matching stop ahead signs), so this is a strange outlier.

There is another way in which it is strange:  it uses Series C instead of D (Québec requires the latter for "STOP").

(image)

I'm pretty sure Series C was specified before D was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on February 27, 2022, 02:18:02 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.
Exactly what it says. A mound.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on February 27, 2022, 03:29:08 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.

Because if you pull your car off the pavement, you may not be able to get it back on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on February 27, 2022, 03:29:08 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.

Because if you pull your car off the pavement, you may not be able to get it back on.
Then why not say "soft shoulder" or "soft ground"? Soft berm tells me nothing and has no significance, especially if I don't know what a berm is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 27, 2022, 11:08:21 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on February 27, 2022, 03:29:08 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.

Because if you pull your car off the pavement, you may not be able to get it back on.
Then why not say "soft shoulder" or "soft ground"? Soft berm tells me nothing and has no significance, especially if I don't know what a berm is.
Soft shoulder is the verbiage in MUTCD W8-4.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on February 27, 2022, 12:22:14 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on February 27, 2022, 03:29:08 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.

Because if you pull your car off the pavement, you may not be able to get it back on.
Then why not say "soft shoulder" or "soft ground"? Soft berm tells me nothing and has no significance, especially if I don't know what a berm is.

No idea.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on February 27, 2022, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Occidental Tourist on February 27, 2022, 03:29:08 AM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.

Because if you pull your car off the pavement, you may not be able to get it back on.
Then why not say "soft shoulder" or "soft ground"? Soft berm tells me nothing and has no significance, especially if I don't know what a berm is.

I guess it depends how far one wants to consider the shoulder off the right travel lane, but in this case, there's definitely a hard shoulder.  For the most part, I would consider any grassy area to be possibly a soft area that one should probably try to avoid.

As for someone knowing the term of something, that's hard to predict.  I mean, there's a lot of people that ignore the "ONLY" portion of a sign, and will do whatever they want to do.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 27, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 27, 2022, 12:35:23 PMI guess it depends how far one wants to consider the shoulder off the right travel lane, but in this case, there's definitely a hard shoulder.  For the most part, I would consider any grassy area to be possibly a soft area that one should probably try to avoid.

Wikipedia defines a berm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berm) as "a level space, shelf, or raised barrier (usually made of compacted soil) separating areas in a vertical way."  In this case, I think the sign may refer not to the area immediately beyond the paved shoulder (I don't know that American English has a specific term for it, but in Britain it would be called the verge), but rather to the flat-topped mound immediately beyond the shallow drainage swale.  Engineering practice in Ohio (certainly for Ohio DOT, possibly also for the Ohio Turnpike) tends to favor the provision of complex cross-sections to break up long slopes and prevent water acquiring significant velocity as it drains.  For example, the standard median cross-section is basically a "double dish" with a central mound instead of a single shallow ditch.

Most drivers would not seek to stop out of traffic by pulling onto the shoulder, traversing the drainage ditch, and stopping on top of the mound, but I can see a "Soft Berm" warning sign being useful for emergency responders who have to recover a vehicle that has run off the road and need to be advised of unusually boggy ground.

In contradistinction, the standard "Soft Shoulder" sign in the MUTCD (W8-4) is pretty unambiguously about conditions that begin where the paved surface ends.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 27, 2022, 01:53:11 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 27, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 27, 2022, 12:35:23 PMI guess it depends how far one wants to consider the shoulder off the right travel lane, but in this case, there's definitely a hard shoulder.  For the most part, I would consider any grassy area to be possibly a soft area that one should probably try to avoid.

Wikipedia defines a berm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berm) as "a level space, shelf, or raised barrier (usually made of compacted soil) separating areas in a vertical way."  In this case, I think the sign may refer not to the area immediately beyond the paved shoulder (I don't know that American English has a specific term for it, but in Britain it would be called the verge), but rather to the flat-topped mound immediately beyond the shallow drainage swale.  Engineering practice in Ohio (certainly for Ohio DOT, possibly also for the Ohio Turnpike) tends to favor the provision of complex cross-sections to break up long slopes and prevent water acquiring significant velocity as it drains.  For example, the standard median cross-section is basically a "double dish" with a central mound instead of a single shallow ditch.

Most drivers would not seek to stop out of traffic by pulling onto the shoulder, traversing the drainage ditch, and stopping on top of the mound, but I can see a "Soft Berm" warning sign being useful for emergency responders who have to recover a vehicle that has run off the road and need to be advised of unusually boggy ground.

In contradistinction, the standard "Soft Shoulder" sign in the MUTCD (W8-4) is pretty unambiguously about conditions that begin where the paved surface ends.
So...the sign is only for emergency responders that find vehicles on the berm?  I don't buy it.  My bet is that it is synonymous with soft shoulder warnings.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 27, 2022, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 27, 2022, 01:53:11 PMSo...the sign is only for emergency responders that find vehicles on the berm?  I don't buy it.  My bet is that it is synonymous with soft shoulder warnings.

If that is what this sign is for, then it would help considerably if the Ohio Turnpike used the actual sign that is nationally standardized for this purpose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on March 01, 2022, 03:46:08 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4507176,-85.0460133,3a,27.7y,236.19h,84.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sns8tRUDuRLeF7tmALXXBkA!2e0!5s20210501T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Not really a sign, but a marking. This intersection was signalised, but the "STOP" writing was simply left there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 01, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 27, 2022, 12:35:23 PM
I guess it depends how far one wants to consider the shoulder off the right travel lane, but in this case, there's definitely a hard shoulder.

Quote from: J N Winkler on February 27, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
Wikipedia defines a berm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berm) as "a level space, shelf, or raised barrier (usually made of compacted soil) separating areas in a vertical way."  In this case, I think the sign may refer not to the area immediately beyond the paved shoulder (I don't know that American English has a specific term for it, but in Britain it would be called the verge), but rather to the flat-topped mound immediately beyond the shallow drainage swale.

For what it's worth, the state of Illinois officially defines the term "roadway" as being "exclusive of berm or shoulder" (625 ILCS 5/1-179).  (So does the UVC.)  This implies that shoulder and berm are not the same thing.  And, indeed, the term "shoulder" is defined as "that portion of the highway adjacent to the roadway for accommodating stopped vehicles or for emergency use" (ILCS 5/1-187.1).  So, while there is no official definition for "berm", it seems clear to me that it refers to an area adjacent to the roadway that has not been designed to accommodate stopped vehicles or emergency use.  In other words, it's the grassy area next to the shoulder.

In many places, I trust the grassy area next to the shoulder to be sufficiently hard, and I'll put two wheels in the grass if I need to make an emergency stop.  So, in my opinion, it is useful information to know if such a maneuver would be jeopardous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 02, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
Octagons not telling you to stop. Instead, it says "slow children" at the entrance to a gas station.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0562989,-72.4402251,3a,75y,127.18h,85.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ_Cc3IH2exy4HAgakPyLKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on March 02, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
Ukrainians have covered the destinations on this motorway sign and have replaced them all with "The Hague":

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FM2CGiVXEAMSDTY?format=jpg)

Source: https://twitter.com/KatyaYushchenko/status/1498997307945140225
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 02, 2022, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 27, 2022, 02:04:58 AM
What is a berm and why do I care if it's soft? (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3933616,-83.0784291,3a,18.7y,299.72h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRSo7CJQd0oC7CaYY8AWvJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This warning sounds like something they'd sell at Build-a-Bear Workshop.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 27, 2022, 12:35:23 PM
... in this case, there's definitely a hard shoulder.

Quote from: J N Winkler on February 27, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
In this case, I think the sign may refer not to the area immediately beyond the paved shoulder ... but rather to the flat-topped mound immediately beyond the shallow drainage swale.

Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
For what it's worth, the state of Illinois officially defines the term "roadway" as being "exclusive of berm or shoulder" (625 ILCS 5/1-179).  (So does the UVC.)  This implies that shoulder and berm are not the same thing.  And, indeed, the term "shoulder" is defined as "that portion of the highway adjacent to the roadway for accommodating stopped vehicles or for emergency use" (ILCS 5/1-187.1).  So, while there is no official definition for "berm", it seems clear to me that it refers to an area adjacent to the roadway that has not been designed to accommodate stopped vehicles or emergency use.  In other words, it's the grassy area next to the shoulder.

Continuing down the roadgeek-rabbit-trail of berms and shoulders...

According to the Ohio DOT, this (at least) is a berm:

(https://i.imgur.com/KvJCyKK.png)
Source:  Ohio DOT, 203 Roadway Excavation and Embankment (https://www.dot.state.oh.us/Divisions/ConstructionMgt/OnlineDocs/2013MOP/200/203.htm)

I can also find Ohio DOT references to "paved berm", "gravel berm", and even the interesting phrase "placing berm material or topsoil on shoulders".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
When entering a roundabout, are "YIELD AHEAD" signs necessary to even have?

https://goo.gl/maps/RYj6VCfhziw8S8X46
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: noelbotevera on March 02, 2022, 05:23:41 PM
Since it's been established that Ohio and Illinois define a berm as being part of the roadway, I'm wondering if this is a Midwest (or at least Ohio) exclusive sign. I never saw "soft berm" signs in Illinois or Indiana, nor in Southern Ohio. It's possible that soil around the Great Lakes is softer than normal - not enough to support a car - but I can't find more examples of this sign except on the Ohio Turnpike.

Does the Ohio Turnpike do its own signage? If they do, then it's probably an odd signage quirk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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I see what you are doing now. Because some roundabouts do and don't have yield ahead signs. For Ex: https://goo.gl/maps/u5s6CRuXcpSdiRaL6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on March 03, 2022, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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I see what you are doing now. Because some roundabouts do and don't have yield ahead signs. For Ex: https://goo.gl/maps/u5s6CRuXcpSdiRaL6

Roundabouts in Alanland?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 03, 2022, 12:29:10 AM
Quote from: kkt on March 03, 2022, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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FIFY
I see what you are doing now. Because some roundabouts do and don't have yield ahead signs. For Ex: https://goo.gl/maps/u5s6CRuXcpSdiRaL6

Roundabouts in Alanland?

In Alanland roundabouts yield to you. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 03, 2022, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 03, 2022, 12:29:10 AM
Quote from: kkt on March 03, 2022, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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I see what you are doing now. Because some roundabouts do and don't have yield ahead signs. For Ex: https://goo.gl/maps/u5s6CRuXcpSdiRaL6

Roundabouts in Alanland?

In Alanland roundabouts yield to you. 

This is absolutely false.

In Alanland, whenever you approach a roundabout, mountains come out of the sky and they stand there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 03, 2022, 02:11:11 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 03, 2022, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 03, 2022, 12:29:10 AM
Quote from: kkt on March 03, 2022, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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FIFY
I see what you are doing now. Because some roundabouts do and don't have yield ahead signs. For Ex: https://goo.gl/maps/u5s6CRuXcpSdiRaL6

Roundabouts in Alanland?

In Alanland roundabouts yield to you. 

This is absolutely false.

In Alanland, whenever you approach a roundabout, mountains come out of the sky and they stand there.

On a semi-related subject, it seems that y'all are trying to follow the philosophy of "the longer the quote, the happier the goat".



On a completely unrelated note, here's a unique sign explaining how lane signals work:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51915251288_33196063d6_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n6zevs)29184AEC-AE45-4B5B-9034-C5E334AF8FE4 (https://flic.kr/p/2n6zevs) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 03, 2022, 02:29:27 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2022, 09:06:39 PMFor what it's worth, the state of Illinois officially defines the term "roadway" as being "exclusive of berm or shoulder" (625 ILCS 5/1-179).  (So does the UVC.)  This implies that shoulder and berm are not the same thing.  And, indeed, the term "shoulder" is defined as "that portion of the highway adjacent to the roadway for accommodating stopped vehicles or for emergency use" (ILCS 5/1-187.1).  So, while there is no official definition for "berm", it seems clear to me that it refers to an area adjacent to the roadway that has not been designed to accommodate stopped vehicles or emergency use.  In other words, it's the grassy area next to the shoulder.

In many places, I trust the grassy area next to the shoulder to be sufficiently hard, and I'll put two wheels in the grass if I need to make an emergency stop.  So, in my opinion, it is useful information to know if such a maneuver would be jeopardous.

This is a good point about berm possibly having a specific legal meaning, such that "Soft Shoulder" is not an appropriate message for this specific case.

I did check the Ohio MUTCD and it includes W8-4 with the standard "Soft Shoulder" verbiage.

Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2022, 05:23:41 PMDoes the Ohio Turnpike do its own signage? If they do, then it's probably an odd signage quirk.

They do, and were asked to "MUTCDify" their signs about fifteen years ago (much as the NJ Turnpike later was).  One distinguishing feature was the lack of border rounding at corners.  (Gribblenation (http://www.gribblenation.com/ohpics/vintage/) and Roadfan.com (http://www.roadfan.com/ohtpkph.html) have photos.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 03, 2022, 09:12:30 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
For what it's worth, the state of Illinois officially defines the term "roadway" as being "exclusive of berm or shoulder" (625 ILCS 5/1-179).

Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2022, 05:23:41 PM
Since it's been established that Ohio and Illinois define a berm as being part of the roadway ...

Reading comprehension:  F

https://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K1-179.htm

https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.01#:~:text=(EE)%20%22Roadway%22%20means,not%20all%20such%20roadways%20collectively.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 03, 2022, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 03, 2022, 02:29:27 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2022, 09:06:39 PMFor what it's worth, the state of Illinois officially defines the term "roadway" as being "exclusive of berm or shoulder" (625 ILCS 5/1-179).  (So does the UVC.)  This implies that shoulder and berm are not the same thing.  And, indeed, the term "shoulder" is defined as "that portion of the highway adjacent to the roadway for accommodating stopped vehicles or for emergency use" (ILCS 5/1-187.1).  So, while there is no official definition for "berm", it seems clear to me that it refers to an area adjacent to the roadway that has not been designed to accommodate stopped vehicles or emergency use.  In other words, it's the grassy area next to the shoulder.

In many places, I trust the grassy area next to the shoulder to be sufficiently hard, and I'll put two wheels in the grass if I need to make an emergency stop.  So, in my opinion, it is useful information to know if such a maneuver would be jeopardous.

This is a good point about berm possibly having a specific legal meaning, such that "Soft Shoulder" is not an appropriate message for this specific case.

I did check the Ohio MUTCD and it includes W8-4 with the standard "Soft Shoulder" verbiage.

Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2022, 05:23:41 PMDoes the Ohio Turnpike do its own signage? If they do, then it's probably an odd signage quirk.

They do, and were asked to "MUTCDify" their signs about fifteen years ago (much as the NJ Turnpike later was).  One distinguishing feature was the lack of border rounding at corners.  (Gribblenation (http://www.gribblenation.com/ohpics/vintage/) and Roadfan.com (http://www.roadfan.com/ohtpkph.html) have photos.)

And at many of the interchanges, using THRU TRAFFIC as the control city on the pull-through BGSs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 03, 2022, 10:20:03 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on March 03, 2022, 09:54:17 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 03, 2022, 02:29:27 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 01, 2022, 09:06:39 PMFor what it's worth, the state of Illinois officially defines the term "roadway" as being "exclusive of berm or shoulder" (625 ILCS 5/1-179).  (So does the UVC.)  This implies that shoulder and berm are not the same thing.  And, indeed, the term "shoulder" is defined as "that portion of the highway adjacent to the roadway for accommodating stopped vehicles or for emergency use" (ILCS 5/1-187.1).  So, while there is no official definition for "berm", it seems clear to me that it refers to an area adjacent to the roadway that has not been designed to accommodate stopped vehicles or emergency use.  In other words, it's the grassy area next to the shoulder.

In many places, I trust the grassy area next to the shoulder to be sufficiently hard, and I'll put two wheels in the grass if I need to make an emergency stop.  So, in my opinion, it is useful information to know if such a maneuver would be jeopardous.

This is a good point about berm possibly having a specific legal meaning, such that "Soft Shoulder" is not an appropriate message for this specific case.

I did check the Ohio MUTCD and it includes W8-4 with the standard "Soft Shoulder" verbiage.

Quote from: noelbotevera on March 02, 2022, 05:23:41 PMDoes the Ohio Turnpike do its own signage? If they do, then it's probably an odd signage quirk.

They do, and were asked to "MUTCDify" their signs about fifteen years ago (much as the NJ Turnpike later was).  One distinguishing feature was the lack of border rounding at corners.  (Gribblenation (http://www.gribblenation.com/ohpics/vintage/) and Roadfan.com (http://www.roadfan.com/ohtpkph.html) have photos.)

And at many of the interchanges, using THRU TRAFFIC as the control city on the pull-through BGSs.

Holy crap, old school Gribblenation page right there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 05, 2022, 10:25:41 PM
The good: an old circle OK-97 marker that still exists in Sand Springs: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1067272,-96.1174108,3a,15y,219.55h,88.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3xk9zWt91gYE2WQYXRHd4w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

The bad and the ugly:
(https://i.imgur.com/Oinp1v6.jpg)

Unique, odd, and interesting (pull-thru and exit signage combined on the side of the road):
(https://i.imgur.com/7S6wibh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 05, 2022, 11:25:42 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 05, 2022, 10:25:41 PM

The bad and the ugly:
(https://i.imgur.com/Oinp1v6.jpg)

Thats right after where I got stuck in my motorhome at the toll plaza and had to back up in the main lanes.  I still wake up with the cold sweats at night.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on March 06, 2022, 02:37:52 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 03, 2022, 12:49:13 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 03, 2022, 12:29:10 AM
Quote from: kkt on March 03, 2022, 12:23:58 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on March 02, 2022, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 02, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
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I see what you are doing now. Because some roundabouts do and don't have yield ahead signs. For Ex: https://goo.gl/maps/u5s6CRuXcpSdiRaL6

Roundabouts in Alanland?

In Alanland roundabouts yield to you. 

This is absolutely false.

In Alanland, whenever you approach a roundabout, mountains come out of the sky and they stand there.
only if they are in and around the lake
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 06, 2022, 07:38:01 PM
The northernmost 56 miles of I-75 are getting new signs, including bilingual weight limit signing for the International Bridge at Sault Ste. Marie:

(https://i.imgur.com/jXIrGIK.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 06, 2022, 08:16:34 PM
Kg rather than kg? Oof.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 06, 2022, 07:38:01 PM
The northernmost 56 miles of I-75 are getting new signs, including bilingual weight limit signing for the International Bridge at Sault Ste. Marie:

(https://i.imgur.com/jXIrGIK.png)

Did not realize Michigan was still specifying Clearview. Also interesting that neither situation, I don't believe, are appropriate for Clearview, yet only the larger sign uses Clearview.

As a side note, seeing stuff like this really makes me wish WSDOT would make public their signing plans. Last I checked, it was either incredibly convoluted or completely inaccessible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 07, 2022, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 06, 2022, 08:16:34 PMKg rather than kg? Oof.

Yup, I noticed.  It also surprises me a little that they simply soft-converted the weight limit for the French sign instead of using dual units on both signs.

I'm not sure composez should be used with a definite article for the number--Québec uses "En cas d'intrusion/Composez 511" for its moose-in-the-ROW warning sign.

Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 11:29:33 AMDid not realize Michigan was still specifying Clearview. Also interesting that neither situation, I don't believe, are appropriate for Clearview, yet only the larger sign uses Clearview.

Michigan DOT did go back to FHWA series temporarily when FHWA rescinded the interim approval.  A few of us assumed this change would be permanent, but like PennDOT they went back to Clearview after it was reinstated.  (TxDOT kept trucking on with Clearview throughout.)

I don't like that "1300 Feet" appears in negative-contrast Clearview, but otherwise the sign panels on this sheet meet my fairly relaxed font standards, which allow the use of all-uppercase Clearview in positive contrast for generic legends like "Welcome Center."

Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 11:29:33 AMAs a side note, seeing stuff like this really makes me wish WSDOT would make public their signing plans. Last I checked, it was either incredibly convoluted or completely inaccessible.

Have you tried their FTP server?  It hosts as-advertised contract plans (which include signing plans) for at least a few years in arrears.  I think they ask you to file a public disclosure request for as-builts from Engineering Records (no self-serve), and I've never seen an actual fabrication drawing from them (these wouldn't be included in plans sets), but there is some availability.  (Self-serve access to fabrication drawings is a dream as yet unrealized.  The big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is a complete set of sign installation orders--which include sketches of each sign--for all large panel signs on the Los Angeles freeways.)

I've noticed that contracts that in the past had signing (e.g., annual regionwide chip seal contracts for regions east of the Cascades) do not have it anymore.  I think this may be because WSDOT's sign shop has changed to digital printing for sign production, including large panel signs, with the result that about 60% of sign production (not sure whether this is per sign or per square foot) is now in-house.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 07, 2022, 05:16:00 PM
Why say 1300 feet instead of saying 1/4 mile?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 07, 2022, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 11:29:33 AMAs a side note, seeing stuff like this really makes me wish WSDOT would make public their signing plans. Last I checked, it was either incredibly convoluted or completely inaccessible.

Have you tried their FTP server?  It hosts as-advertised contract plans (which include signing plans) for at least a few years in arrears.  I think they ask you to file a public disclosure request for as-builts from Engineering Records (no self-serve), and I've never seen an actual fabrication drawing from them (these wouldn't be included in plans sets), but there is some availability.  (Self-serve access to fabrication drawings is a dream as yet unrealized.  The big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is a complete set of sign installation orders--which include sketches of each sign--for all large panel signs on the Los Angeles freeways.)

I've noticed that contracts that in the past had signing (e.g., annual regionwide chip seal contracts for regions east of the Cascades) do not have it anymore.  I think this may be because WSDOT's sign shop has changed to digital printing for sign production, including large panel signs, with the result that about 60% of sign production (not sure whether this is per sign or per square foot) is now in-house.

Can you possibly suggest a good FTP access method? Historically I have use Chrome, but they have since removed this feature (as of November 2021, from what I can tell).

I can access WSDOT's FTP server using File Explorer (Windows 10), but cannot open any documents.

At any rate, I appreciate the suggestion and I'm interested to look around, even if I cannot locate signage plans.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 07, 2022, 06:26:12 PM
Found in Anacortes, WA (near SR 20 Spur):

(https://i.imgur.com/SXGHxCl.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 07, 2022, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 05:28:08 PM
Can you possibly suggest a good FTP access method? Historically I have use Chrome, but they have since removed this feature (as of November 2021, from what I can tell).

FileZilla has always served me well (note that despite the name it has nothing to do with Mozilla and doesn't interface with Firefox).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 07, 2022, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 05:28:08 PM
Can you possibly suggest a good FTP access method? Historically I have use Chrome, but they have since removed this feature (as of November 2021, from what I can tell).

FileZilla has always served me well (note that despite the name it has nothing to do with Mozilla and doesn't interface with Firefox).

Seems to work well, thanks!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 07, 2022, 07:26:47 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 07, 2022, 06:26:12 PM
Found in Anacortes, WA (near SR 20 Spur):

(https://i.imgur.com/SXGHxCl.png)

There used to be a WA 20 shield with "SR" in it on R Ave in Anacortes:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZuDa1igXAcFq9zUdA

Recently replaced with a vanilla WA 20 shield (also sans 'SPUR')
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 07, 2022, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 05:28:08 PMCan you possibly suggest a good FTP access method? Historically I have use Chrome, but they have since removed this feature (as of November 2021, from what I can tell).

I can access WSDOT's FTP server using File Explorer (Windows 10), but cannot open any documents.

At any rate, I appreciate the suggestion and I'm interested to look around, even if I cannot locate signage plans.

Browser developers have been phasing out support for FTP since the protocol is considered "insecure."  Firefox dropped it in mid-2021 as well.  I've had to install FileZilla as a result.  Command-line utilities like wget and curl still work well for noninteractive downloads.

Generally, there won't be a file named "Signage plans" or similar.  Your best bet is probably to look for projects that are likely to be scoped to include signing.  Among the WSDOT contracts I've downloaded in the last two months that are awaiting archiving, 9767 (Grape Drive intersection safety improvement, essentially a roundabout conversion) is small and has signing, while 9786 (I-90 Cabin Creek to Easton additional lanes and wildlife bridges) is quite large and has dozens of signing sheets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:13 PM
Rare construction stop ahead sign. It seems like NCDOT is like Quebec sometimes with the STOP text! And it looks like the stop sign has ears.

https://goo.gl/maps/kDZGowqemKq9oALJA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 07, 2022, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:13 PM
And it looks like the stop sign has ears.
Looks like the contractor threw a stop sign over a yield sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on March 07, 2022, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 07, 2022, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:13 PM
And it looks like the stop sign has ears.
Looks like the contractor threw a stop sign over a yield sign.
Funny and odd indeed!

It clearly leads to a stop sign: https://goo.gl/maps/S69rHLFmz1Wjvm1b7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 08, 2022, 05:53:54 AM
Quote from: tolbs17 on March 07, 2022, 10:11:13 PM
And it looks like the stop sign has ears.

All the better to hear you with.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 08, 2022, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 06, 2022, 07:38:01 PM
The northernmost 56 miles of I-75 are getting new signs, including bilingual weight limit signing for the International Bridge at Sault Ste. Marie:

(https://i.imgur.com/jXIrGIK.png)

Do you know the letting date of this contract?  I frequently look at planned lettings on the MDOT e-Proposal website but I missed this one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 08, 2022, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 08, 2022, 10:22:45 AMDo you know the letting date of this contract?  I frequently look at planned lettings on the MDOT e-Proposal website but I missed this one.

It was Call 26 in the letting of March 4, 2022 (contract number 49025-201956).

I have a couple of scripts that work with Michigan DOT every four weeks.  The first goes through the bid quantity listings and prepares a shootlist of recent contracts with more than 2000 SF of signing that is sorted in descending order by sign panel area.  The second then attempts to download contracts on the shootlist.  This particular job was number one on this month's shootlist, with 30,968 SF.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on March 08, 2022, 03:45:15 PM
This was installed during an ongoing construction project. I hope they correct this. It's embarassing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7345112,-72.6643809,3a,15y,181.7h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNJXaBMI2p_DkClbL88fPgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7345112,-72.6643809,3a,15y,181.7h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNJXaBMI2p_DkClbL88fPgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on March 13, 2022, 03:25:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 07, 2022, 05:28:08 PM
Can you possibly suggest a good FTP access method? Historically I have use Chrome, but they have since removed this feature (as of November 2021, from what I can tell).

WSDOT changed their FTP site to be accessible over HTTP -- for example, here's the main contracts directory (https://ftp.wsdot.wa.gov/contracts). If you have old links, you just need to change ftp:// to https:// at the start of the URL.

As for signing plans, I've noticed the quality has dropped dramatically recently. You'll find the 3/4 error all over the place!  :-D As you mentioned, a lot of projects don't include sign replacement work -- my guess is that's because WSDOT has been having serious budget issues lately with maintenance work, and sign work has been one of the victims of that. They used to sometimes do dedicated sign replacement contracts too, but I haven't seen one of those for quite a while, and it doesn't appear that they're stepping up in-house work to compensate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 13, 2022, 08:22:11 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 08, 2022, 03:45:15 PM
This was installed during an ongoing construction project. I hope they correct this. It's embarassing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7345112,-72.6643809,3a,15y,181.7h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNJXaBMI2p_DkClbL88fPgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7345112,-72.6643809,3a,15y,181.7h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNJXaBMI2p_DkClbL88fPgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)


:wow:












Looks like the numbers 290 just barely fit with the parameters of the shield.

https://goo.gl/maps/VBuxMQM5dpupEvWk7

Reminds me of a woman whom is well endowed wearing a small bra nearly keeping it in.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 13, 2022, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 13, 2022, 08:22:11 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on March 08, 2022, 03:45:15 PM
This was installed during an ongoing construction project. I hope they correct this. It's embarassing.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7345112,-72.6643809,3a,15y,181.7h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNJXaBMI2p_DkClbL88fPgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7345112,-72.6643809,3a,15y,181.7h,89.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNJXaBMI2p_DkClbL88fPgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)


:wow:












Looks like the numbers 290 just barely fit with the parameters of the shield.

https://goo.gl/maps/VBuxMQM5dpupEvWk7

Reminds me of a woman whom is well endowed wearing a small bra nearly keeping it in.

Also button copy.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on March 13, 2022, 11:40:13 PM
Warning: LOCAL ACCESS 🚫 US 2 BYPASS (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8132437,-121.570267,3a,15y,358.06h,87.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9uNl0W2cz_u1ioX3Hz2jxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Someone (probably the county; I can't imagine WSDOT would do this) has put up these bizarre signs all along US 2 west of Stevens Pass. I guess people have been trying to use local roads to bypass traffic on this stretch of US 2, which often has quite bad traffic on the weekends. I get the intent, but that design (using a warning sign design for some reason, the non-standard use of the no symbol, the tiny US 2 shield) is just plain bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 13, 2022, 11:48:26 PM
Quote from: jay8g on March 13, 2022, 11:40:13 PM
Warning: LOCAL ACCESS US 2 BYPASS (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8132437,-121.570267,3a,15y,358.06h,87.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9uNl0W2cz_u1ioX3Hz2jxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Someone (probably the county; I can't imagine WSDOT would do this) has put up these bizarre signs all along US 2 west of Stevens Pass. I guess people have been trying to use local roads to bypass traffic on this stretch of US 2, which often has quite bad traffic on the weekends. I get the intent, but that design (using a warning sign design for some reason, the non-standard use of the no symbol, the tiny US 2 shield) is just plain bad.
Reminds me of the signs at the bottom of Cedar Point that tell parkgoers to take the designated route to the entrance.  Signs are obviously local.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on March 15, 2022, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on March 07, 2022, 07:26:47 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 07, 2022, 06:26:12 PM
Found in Anacortes, WA (near SR 20 Spur):

(https://i.imgur.com/SXGHxCl.png)

There used to be a WA 20 shield with "SR" in it on R Ave in Anacortes:
https://goo.gl/maps/ZuDa1igXAcFq9zUdA

Recently replaced with a vanilla WA 20 shield (also sans 'SPUR')

That's a classic job by the City of Anacortes. They are all over the board with scaling and fonts. We could add three more pages in this thread just from this small city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 15, 2022, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: jay8g on March 13, 2022, 11:40:13 PM
Warning: LOCAL ACCESS 🚫 US 2 BYPASS (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8132437,-121.570267,3a,15y,358.06h,87.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9uNl0W2cz_u1ioX3Hz2jxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Someone (probably the county; I can't imagine WSDOT would do this) has put up these bizarre signs all along US 2 west of Stevens Pass. I guess people have been trying to use local roads to bypass traffic on this stretch of US 2, which often has quite bad traffic on the weekends. I get the intent, but that design (using a warning sign design for some reason, the non-standard use of the no symbol, the tiny US 2 shield) is just plain bad.

A sign I would definitely ignore if I wanted. Nonstandard design, and no justification to prohibit people from using public roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 16, 2022, 12:37:52 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 15, 2022, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: jay8g on March 13, 2022, 11:40:13 PM
Warning: LOCAL ACCESS 🚫 US 2 BYPASS (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8132437,-121.570267,3a,15y,358.06h,87.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9uNl0W2cz_u1ioX3Hz2jxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Someone (probably the county; I can't imagine WSDOT would do this) has put up these bizarre signs all along US 2 west of Stevens Pass. I guess people have been trying to use local roads to bypass traffic on this stretch of US 2, which often has quite bad traffic on the weekends. I get the intent, but that design (using a warning sign design for some reason, the non-standard use of the no symbol, the tiny US 2 shield) is just plain bad.

A sign I would definitely ignore if I wanted. Nonstandard design, and no justification to prohibit people from using public roads.

Good luck with that, because a lot of these roads don't connect back to US 2 at all. They legitimately aren't for bypass use (and would be clogged with idiots trying to vainly follow their GPS otherwise).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 16, 2022, 07:45:15 AM
As part of my internship, I was looking through Google Street View of eastern Massachusetts, going through every town in the eastern quarter of the state or so. While not part of my job, I noticed that whenever a sign said "no thru traffic", it actually meant it, and it was impossible, not just prohibited, to connect to the other side. There was exactly one exception out of everywhere I checked.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 16, 2022, 12:05:09 PM
IDOT moment:

(https://snz04pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mEySCyV_Aa7q9hFfoxyZQh9k_7BeOylo_OjDWHMmfTVjMtvLo9VrK3Z4gmNXGDEzr1pbuo_3erEeEOcCRyXD6-HPfZuzlpTk61JuyYlGimwYSFQXJubd9lJAuBq1Yl7i-Du-A_9JpX6eLxJZndfpm_Hd1ML1FPc-pqxqkR7J1OkqF32z9dDe9KxgIU9CPx40n?width=2821&height=2116&cropmode=none)

This one's been like this for almost 2 months.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
But notice the name of the crossroad.  Almost makes me think it was done on purpose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 16, 2022, 12:14:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
But notice the name of the crossroad.  Almost makes me think it was done on purpose.

Interesting theory, but I doubt it. I'm leaning on this on being plain incompetence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 16, 2022, 03:07:08 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/2252/32196297653_639b5c2fd7_c.jpg
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2252/32196297653_639b5c2fd7_c.jpg)
Interesting button copy truck route sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
But notice the name of the crossroad.  Almost makes me think it was done on purpose.

What would green represent in terms of patriotism?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 16, 2022, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 16, 2022, 12:05:09 PM
IDOT moment:

(https://snz04pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mEySCyV_Aa7q9hFfoxyZQh9k_7BeOylo_OjDWHMmfTVjMtvLo9VrK3Z4gmNXGDEzr1pbuo_3erEeEOcCRyXD6-HPfZuzlpTk61JuyYlGimwYSFQXJubd9lJAuBq1Yl7i-Du-A_9JpX6eLxJZndfpm_Hd1ML1FPc-pqxqkR7J1OkqF32z9dDe9KxgIU9CPx40n?width=2821&height=2116&cropmode=none)

This one's been like this for almost 2 months.

In Syracuse, NY this would apply at one specific intersection. :sombrero: :sombrero:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/upside-down-traffic-signal
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 03:17:50 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
But notice the name of the crossroad.  Almost makes me think it was done on purpose.

What would green represent in terms of patriotism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipperary_Hill
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 03:17:50 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
But notice the name of the crossroad.  Almost makes me think it was done on purpose.

What would green represent in terms of patriotism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipperary_Hill

So "Patriot Blvd" is some sort of Irish reference? I'm not getting your point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 05:08:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.
Not really.  Green over red in an Irish neighborhood.  It's really not that subtle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 16, 2022, 05:39:23 PM
The railroads do use green over red as standard all clear, or Conrail once did anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.

I was actually imagining that the guy mounting the sign was a history buff.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.
See the NY state flag.  Liberty's kicking the British crown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.
See the NY state flag.  Liberty's kicking the British crown.

See Hawaii's flag...plenty of British acceptance in the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:17:12 PM


Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.
See the NY state flag.  Liberty's kicking the British crown.

See Hawaii's flag...plenty of British acceptance in the US.

You been to Hawaii?  Not really...

Not sure what HI has to do with Tipperary Hill, anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:17:12 PM


Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.
See the NY state flag.  Liberty's kicking the British crown.

See Hawaii's flag...plenty of British acceptance in the US.

You been to Hawaii?  Not really...

Not sure what HI has to do with Tipperary Hill, anyway.

That's my point, no one cares about flags.

The sign is in Illinois.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on March 16, 2022, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 16, 2022, 05:39:23 PM
The railroads do use green over red as standard all clear, or Conrail once did anyway.

That is kind of true.  The reality is that on an upper quadrant semaphore signal, the colors are red-yellow-green (from top to bottom) but when converted to the corresponding position lights the top-bottom aspects are green, the 45-degree aspects are yellow and the side-to-side aspects are red.  That put green on the top and the railroad industry standardized as such.  Only one set of railroads standardized on something slightly different:  The Van Sweringen Lines (NYC, C&O and Nickle Plate) alternated the heads such that there would always be a minimum distance between the reds on a two-headed signal (so that each of these reds was visible from a long distance).  Therefore, we had the top head as red-yellow-green, the middle head as yellow-green-red and the bottom head could be whatever was appropriate.  The NYC and Nickle Plate didn't fully adopt those standards, leaving the C&O as the lone wolf here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:17:12 PM


Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 16, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Anti-British patriotism.  It was admittedly quite the reach.

To be fair, I'm not so dense that I didn't get what you were getting at. I just find it hard to believe that there is any anti-British sentiment these days. If anything, the obsession with British Royalty leads me to believe that Americans (even the Irish, to an extent), in fact, love the British. Or at least get on with them.
See the NY state flag.  Liberty's kicking the British crown.

See Hawaii's flag...plenty of British acceptance in the US.

You been to Hawaii?  Not really...

Not sure what HI has to do with Tipperary Hill, anyway.

That's my point, no one cares about flags.

The sign is in Illinois.
The context of the thread shifted to Syracuse...c'mon, man...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on March 17, 2022, 12:52:52 PM
^ Tipperary Hill was only mentioned after the discussion of patriotism began, one time in a response to "what would green represent in terms of patriotism?", as the Illinois sign was at Patriot St or something.

Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2022, 03:17:50 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 16, 2022, 12:07:53 PM
But notice the name of the crossroad.  Almost makes me think it was done on purpose.

What would green represent in terms of patriotism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipperary_Hill
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 17, 2022, 01:01:40 PM
Yes.  The stoplight at Tipperary Hill is what I had in mind when I said I imagined it having been mounted like that on purpose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tolbs17 on March 19, 2022, 12:45:50 AM
These signs are not on freeways. Although this used to be an expressway design, seems like they were left intact.

US-264 from Wilson to Greenville (with the exception of the Farmville bypass) was built as a limited access highway so it had at-grade intersections. All interchanges were complete by 2001.

https://goo.gl/maps/My9ergCjy3UyF2WW8

https://goo.gl/maps/YJ3uYyQAGxgi4nmN6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 19, 2022, 03:57:37 PM
Just putting this somewhere, but the new signs for NY 635 northbound, either from I-690 east or west in the C/D lanes, are ugly as sin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on March 20, 2022, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 19, 2022, 03:57:37 PM
Just putting this somewhere, but the new signs for NY 635 northbound, either from I-690 east or west in the C/D lanes, are ugly as sin.


Is it this?

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/d264693.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 20, 2022, 05:04:25 PM
Quote from: machias on March 20, 2022, 04:56:47 PMIs it this?

(Image snipped)

Thanks for posting this--I wondered what the D-number was, not having found anything for NY 635 in my collection of signface layouts.  (I extract them by script now and figuring out why this didn't happen for D264693 is now on my to-do list.)  The latest StreetView imagery for both directions of I-690 shows the old signs with Series F shield digits as of October/November 2021.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 20, 2022, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: machias on March 20, 2022, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 19, 2022, 03:57:37 PM
Just putting this somewhere, but the new signs for NY 635 northbound, either from I-690 east or west in the C/D lanes, are ugly as sin.


Is it this?

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/d264693.png)
Yep.  Something looks just out of proportion on the actual installation to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 20, 2022, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 20, 2022, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: machias on March 20, 2022, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 19, 2022, 03:57:37 PM
Just putting this somewhere, but the new signs for NY 635 northbound, either from I-690 east or west in the C/D lanes, are ugly as sin.


Is it this?

(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/aaroads/d264693.png)
Yep.  Something looks just out of proportion on the actual installation to me.

It looks like the shield is way too pointy at the bottom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 20, 2022, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 20, 2022, 06:48:46 PMYep.  Something looks just out of proportion on the actual installation to me.

The proportions are nonstandard.  Enumerating the deviations:

*  Cardinal direction word:  normally 12" with 15" initial letter, here 10" with 12" initial letter

*  Destination legend:  normally 16" UC/12" LC, here 13.3" UC/10" LC

Meanwhile, the exit tab has normal 30" height while the shield has 36" height, so they both look larger than they should.

Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 20, 2022, 07:51:08 PMIt looks like the shield is way too pointy at the bottom.

It's the same three-digit NYS shield that is programmed into GuideSign.  I don't know how closely it resembles the actual shields on the signs, and I have never seen a sign drawings book from NYSDOT, but it doesn't stick out to me as incorrect.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 20, 2022, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 20, 2022, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 20, 2022, 06:48:46 PMYep.  Something looks just out of proportion on the actual installation to me.

The proportions are nonstandard.  Enumerating the deviations:

*  Cardinal direction word:  normally 12" with 15" initial letter, here 10" with 12" initial letter

*  Destination legend:  normally 16" UC/12" LC, here 13.3" UC/10" LC

Meanwhile, the exit tab has normal 30" height while the shield has 36" height, so they both look larger than they should.

Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 20, 2022, 07:51:08 PMIt looks like the shield is way too pointy at the bottom.

It's the same three-digit NYS shield that is programmed into GuideSign.  I don't know how closely it resembles the actual shields on the signs, and I have never seen a sign drawings book from NYSDOT, but it doesn't stick out to me as incorrect.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 23, 2022, 08:41:57 PM
Seattle DOT is rolling out new "driver report card" signs that will track the number of people who obey the yield-to-pedestrian laws at some intersections. More coverage in The Seattle Times (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/watch-that-intersection-driver-report-card-signs-going-up-around-seattle/) (with image below) and the SDOT blog (https://sdotblog.seattle.gov/2022/03/18/new-signs-stopping-for-people-crossing-the-street/).

(https://i.imgur.com/E92hQOU.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 23, 2022, 08:46:48 PM
How would it count people like me as a pedestrian? Unless it's busy enough that a gap doesn't exist, I typically stand far enough back that the cars pass first, and then I pass when it's clear. I also typically give myself a 1-2 second head start – I start moving forward as the car is about to pass me (any earlier and the car is going to slam on the brakes, exactly what I don't want to happen). Doing this is often faster than waiting for a car to brake, especially if they brake slowly and I can't tell if they're braking at first.

This would count as cars not stopping for me, but I intentionally let them go first.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on March 23, 2022, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 23, 2022, 08:46:48 PM
How would it count people like me as a pedestrian? Unless it's busy enough that a gap doesn't exist, I typically stand far enough back that the cars pass first, and then I pass when it's clear. I also typically give myself a 1-2 second head start – I start moving forward as the car is about to pass me (any earlier and the car is going to slam on the brakes, exactly what I don't want to happen). Doing this is often faster than waiting for a car to brake, especially if they brake slowly and I can't tell if they're braking at first.

This would count as cars not stopping for me, but I intentionally let them go first.

The law is that drivers stop/yield if you're within the crosswalk, not waiting behind the curb.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 24, 2022, 02:08:11 AM
A helpful map-sign on OR 138 near Crater Lake:

(https://i.imgur.com/Tk2j43D.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on March 26, 2022, 11:02:12 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 23, 2022, 08:41:57 PM
Seattle DOT is rolling out new "driver report card" signs that will track the number of people who obey the yield-to-pedestrian laws at some intersections. More coverage in The Seattle Times (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/watch-that-intersection-driver-report-card-signs-going-up-around-seattle/) (with image below) and the SDOT blog (https://sdotblog.seattle.gov/2022/03/18/new-signs-stopping-for-people-crossing-the-street/).

(https://i.imgur.com/E92hQOU.jpg)

Unrelated, but this sign reminded me of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/5Y1gBx8qAY7BngHU7) that was up for a while in Charlotte NC on NC 16. I never saw the numbers changed, and its gone now. Even as a kid I found it to be unique and interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: BuildTheRussian on March 28, 2022, 07:48:03 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6388491,-122.1059784,3a,56.6y,305.02h,97.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMBKgGWt4AEGr205dcM_Rhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
The font on this stop sign is pretty unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:30:12 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on March 28, 2022, 07:48:03 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6388491,-122.1059784,3a,56.6y,305.02h,97.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMBKgGWt4AEGr205dcM_Rhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
The font on this stop sign is pretty unusual.

Looks like the font on the sign and on the street itself should be flipped!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 30, 2022, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 28, 2022, 09:30:12 AM
Quote from: BuildTheRussian on March 28, 2022, 07:48:03 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6388491,-122.1059784,3a,56.6y,305.02h,97.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMBKgGWt4AEGr205dcM_Rhw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
The font on this stop sign is pretty unusual.

Looks like the font on the sign and on the street itself should be flipped!

Egad. You know what that is? That's BPR Series B, the standard block font from 1919!

No idea how it managed to end up on a red stop sign though–red stop signs were introduced about a decade or so after the current fonts were introduced!

[Edited to correct year. -S.]
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 31, 2022, 12:16:08 AM
"In the distance" is a non-specific distance.

(https://i.imgur.com/Sp0UIK3.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 31, 2022, 08:46:56 AM
Quote from: fillup420 on March 26, 2022, 11:02:12 PM
Unrelated, but this sign reminded me of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/5Y1gBx8qAY7BngHU7) that was up for a while in Charlotte NC on NC 16. I never saw the numbers changed, and its gone now. Even as a kid I found it to be unique and interesting.

These were common in North Carolina in the years after seat belt laws went into effect.  I was always struck by how low even the "record" compliance was in places...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 01, 2022, 02:02:06 AM
I thought this was a fairly unique warning sign. The road does actually go straight as well.

Raymond @ SW 19th, Renton, WA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51973619232_6fe3edf167_o.jpg)
Unusual turn arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2nbJogj) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 01, 2022, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 01, 2022, 02:02:06 AM
I thought this was a fairly unique warning sign. The road does actually go straight as well.

Raymond @ SW 19th, Renton, WA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51973619232_6fe3edf167_o.jpg)
Unusual turn arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2nbJogj) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

(https://i.imgur.com/kpJ22oR.jpg)

:bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 01, 2022, 09:13:14 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 31, 2022, 12:16:08 AM
"In the distance" is a non-specific distance.

(https://i.imgur.com/Sp0UIK3.jpeg)

"Down the road a piece."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 01, 2022, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 01, 2022, 02:02:06 AM
I thought this was a fairly unique warning sign. The road does actually go straight as well.

Raymond @ SW 19th, Renton, WA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51973619232_6fe3edf167_o.jpg)
Unusual turn arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2nbJogj) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Warning: Casino ahead  (with the 7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 01, 2022, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 01, 2022, 08:29:53 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 01, 2022, 02:02:06 AM
I thought this was a fairly unique warning sign. The road does actually go straight as well.

Raymond @ SW 19th, Renton, WA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51973619232_6fe3edf167_o.jpg)
Unusual turn arrow (https://flic.kr/p/2nbJogj) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

(https://i.imgur.com/kpJ22oR.jpg)

:bigass:

:-D :clap: this MUST become a permanent meme in the roadgeek community!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on April 04, 2022, 08:56:09 AM
Both the shields on this display are awful. (https://goo.gl/maps/vJGDWD1HfGg9FUC57)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 04, 2022, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on April 04, 2022, 08:56:09 AM
Both the shields on this display are awful. (https://goo.gl/maps/vJGDWD1HfGg9FUC57)
and in the wrong order.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 04, 2022, 02:17:32 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on April 04, 2022, 08:56:09 AM
Both the shields on this display are awful. (https://goo.gl/maps/vJGDWD1HfGg9FUC57)

When the default font in your CAD package is set to Arial.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 04, 2022, 02:28:29 PM
Refresh my memory; Has anybody posted the school-shaped church signs of Lake Butler, Florida? Because I intend to post them in the Wikimedia Commons this week.


I'm so glad I stopped in Lake Butler on my way to Folkston, Georgia last month.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on April 08, 2022, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 31, 2022, 12:16:08 AM
"In the distance" is a non-specific distance.

(https://i.imgur.com/Sp0UIK3.jpeg)

Been past there many times, both with my wife and my late father-in-law.  If he were still alive, I'd suggest we stop there and check it out, since I never have.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
Has anyone mentioned South Dakota's  X Marks the Spot?.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939666844_636c9c77c0_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 09, 2022, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
Has anyone mentioned South Dakota's  X Marks the Spot?.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939666844_636c9c77c0_z_d.jpg)
I prefer the WHY DIE? ones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 09, 2022, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
Has anyone mentioned South Dakota's  X Marks the Spot?.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939666844_636c9c77c0_z_d.jpg)
I prefer the WHY DIE? ones.

Not familiar with them. Got any pix?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 09, 2022, 10:17:54 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 09, 2022, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
Has anyone mentioned South Dakota's  X Marks the Spot?.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939666844_636c9c77c0_z_d.jpg)
I prefer the WHY DIE? ones.

Not familiar with them. Got any pix?
'Fraid not, but they were commonplace for this past week when I was driving in southern SD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on April 09, 2022, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: elsmere241 on April 08, 2022, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 31, 2022, 12:16:08 AM
"In the distance" is a non-specific distance.

(https://i.imgur.com/Sp0UIK3.jpeg)

Been past there many times, both with my wife and my late father-in-law.  If he were still alive, I'd suggest we stop there and check it out, since I never have.

Worth seeing.  At least you can walk freely among the stones, which you no longer can at the real Stonehenge.

There's some great Rodin in the museum also.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on April 10, 2022, 08:49:45 PM
Thank me later for this.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rarnold on April 10, 2022, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:10:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 09, 2022, 10:09:24 PM
Quote from: US71 on April 09, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
Has anyone mentioned South Dakota's  X Marks the Spot?.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939666844_636c9c77c0_z_d.jpg)
I prefer the WHY DIE? ones.

Not familiar with them. Got any pix?

They are the same sign. Think on one side, why die? on the other.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rhen_var on April 11, 2022, 01:32:52 AM
Quote from: machias on January 21, 2022, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: SidS1045 on January 21, 2022, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: Kniwt on January 16, 2022, 01:32:18 PM
On 800 North in Hurricane UT, this seems to be telling drivers to close their eyes before cresting the hill.

There used to be a sign in Yonkers NY on the Saw Mill River Parkway southbound that said "Limited Sight Distance - 40 MPH" (normal speed limit was 55).

NYSDOT was big on "Limited Sight Distance"  with an advisory speed in the 80s and early 90s. They appeared all over the place upstate and then it suddenly stopped.
There are still at least two "Limited Sight Distance" signs with an advisory speed in my hometown in MI.  They're on local roads though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2022, 04:55:23 PM
As I promised, the school shaped church signs of Lake Butler, Union County, Florida.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/WB_SW_3rd_St%3B_School-shaped_Church_Sign%3B_Lake_Butler%2C_FL-1.jpg/640px-WB_SW_3rd_St%3B_School-shaped_Church_Sign%3B_Lake_Butler%2C_FL-1.jpg) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/WB_SW_3rd_St%3B_School-shaped_Church_Sign%3B_Lake_Butler%2C_FL-2.jpg/640px-WB_SW_3rd_St%3B_School-shaped_Church_Sign%3B_Lake_Butler%2C_FL-2.jpg)

I still keep thinking somebody else here has posted images of these signs before.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 13, 2022, 05:00:39 PM
Hey, you know, churches have steeples, right? ...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2022, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2022, 05:00:39 PM
Hey, you know, churches have steeples, right? ...
Yes, but I also know the warning signs for them aren't normally shaped like school signs. Are you suggesting that they should be?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 14, 2022, 12:11:32 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2022, 08:37:09 PMYes, but I also know the warning signs for them aren't normally shaped like school signs. Are you suggesting that they should be?

It is contestable (and we have had the debate in the past) whether they should receive warning signs at all, and if so, whether the signs should reference them as houses of worship.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on April 14, 2022, 09:21:38 AM
The road through Snow Canyon State Park near Ivins UT (former UT 300) has these signs at each end:
(Watch out for giant mutant car-eating turtles.)

(https://i.imgur.com/l2Ez51Y.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 14, 2022, 09:28:24 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on April 13, 2022, 08:37:09 PM

Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2022, 05:00:39 PM
Hey, you know, churches have steeples, right? ...

Yes, but I also know the warning signs for them aren't normally shaped like school signs. Are you suggesting that they should be?

No.  I was joking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 16, 2022, 11:07:20 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/TiQaaX66eTZnE3xR8
The street sign is interesting now a month later after the Goog car grabbed this image the 43rd Street overhead is now missing.

Plus one GSV image from the past blurs out the street sign as well.

Seems like 43rd Street is being kept hidden 😂
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 16, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2022, 11:07:20 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/TiQaaX66eTZnE3xR8
The street sign is interesting now a month later after the Goog car grabbed this image the 43rd Street overhead is now missing.

Plus one GSV image from the past blurs out the street sign as well.

Seems like 43rd Street is being kept hidden 😂

Unrelated to the street name sign but still odd or interesting (or ugly): Why are there wires hanging all around the mast arm like that? Seems like a really sloppy installation for signal heads on a mast arm... Most of the time, you don't see wires for signal heads at all on a mast arm install.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 16, 2022, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 16, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2022, 11:07:20 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/TiQaaX66eTZnE3xR8
The street sign is interesting now a month later after the Goog car grabbed this image the 43rd Street overhead is now missing.

Plus one GSV image from the past blurs out the street sign as well.

Seems like 43rd Street is being kept hidden 😂

Unrelated to the street name sign but still odd or interesting (or ugly): Why are there wires hanging all around the mast arm like that? Seems like a really sloppy installation for signal heads on a mast arm... Most of the time, you don't see wires for signal heads at all on a mast arm install.

Welcome to Texas. I think their signal installs tend to be sloppy and inconsistent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 16, 2022, 04:12:10 PM
A sign to deter the homeless from sleeping under the overpass. This is on US 60 at US 17/258 in Newport News near the James River Bridge.

Image from today

EDIT: Sorry about the quality, Tapatalk made me downsize it

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220416/0a4cabf9101aa88c4afd1469b9770a97.jpg)

moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 16, 2022, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 16, 2022, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 16, 2022, 03:12:51 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 16, 2022, 11:07:20 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/TiQaaX66eTZnE3xR8
The street sign is interesting now a month later after the Goog car grabbed this image the 43rd Street overhead is now missing.

Plus one GSV image from the past blurs out the street sign as well.

Seems like 43rd Street is being kept hidden 😂

Unrelated to the street name sign but still odd or interesting (or ugly): Why are there wires hanging all around the mast arm like that? Seems like a really sloppy installation for signal heads on a mast arm... Most of the time, you don't see wires for signal heads at all on a mast arm install.

Welcome to Texas. I think their signal installs tend to be sloppy and inconsistent.

In this case, it may well be to make it easier to remove the signal heads in the event of a hurricane, although that practice is usually associated with span-wire installs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 16, 2022, 11:38:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Tgcravc.jpg)

The Narrow Bridge sign was previously sent to back, as recently as August last year (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2665624,-74.5200475,3a,22.1y,327.74h,84.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ4uYRrCOcysUNw3txSYpgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). Don't know why the signs were randomly switched like that, it appears to be the same sign post so I'm at a loss. It shouldn't have anything to do with the recent bridge closure. It is neat to see what the color of the sign was when it was first placed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 20, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
Another upside down install signal ahead sign in Willows, CA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52018427283_933deb76c1_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 22, 2022, 08:41:28 PM
Someone must've been fed up with people blocking their entrance, so they painted a no parking symbol on their house:

(https://i.imgur.com/87XvC0U.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 25, 2022, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 22, 2022, 08:41:28 PM
Someone must've been fed up with people blocking their entrance, so they painted a no parking symbol on their house:

[img

This sort of thing is all over in Mexico.

Here are a few from just two streets, in Parras:
https://goo.gl/maps/fsxYdk3GnPkE49xf6
https://goo.gl/maps/uUXkr7xcsPNBAcCm9
https://goo.gl/maps/PYJfLNzPppUz5DV99
https://goo.gl/maps/mmRAEmKTh1rh7ohu6
https://goo.gl/maps/AvVrhdL9MMmKJVoP6
https://goo.gl/maps/PfsTyhi33FRRXT6C8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 25, 2022, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 25, 2022, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 22, 2022, 08:41:28 PM
Someone must've been fed up with people blocking their entrance, so they painted a no parking symbol on their house:

(clipped)

This sort of thing is all over in Mexico.

Here are a few from just two streets, in Parras:
https://goo.gl/maps/fsxYdk3GnPkE49xf6
https://goo.gl/maps/uUXkr7xcsPNBAcCm9
https://goo.gl/maps/PYJfLNzPppUz5DV99
https://goo.gl/maps/mmRAEmKTh1rh7ohu6
https://goo.gl/maps/AvVrhdL9MMmKJVoP6
https://goo.gl/maps/PfsTyhi33FRRXT6C8

At least those paint jobs seem decent, while my example follows the law of least effort.

Coincidentally, no later than 30 minutes after taking the picture, I stumbled upon a work crew putting an actual no parking sign there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on April 25, 2022, 11:49:33 PM
What if, instead of a standard "+" intersection, you have an additional diagonal street joining in?  You take a standard "+" intersection sign, and add some black tape to indicate the 5th road.    This is on California SR 33 in Ventura County, just north of Ojai (Oh-hi), near Meiners Oaks.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52030840464_c4d05e90dc_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 26, 2022, 10:06:51 AM
Here is some interesting variations in the Lone Star State.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52029673692_21099232b8_k.jpg)
Typical stand alone shield for primary highways.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52030740798_82ffa8a922_k.jpg)
Special Route primary shields.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48016497138_b3e2af2b73_k.jpg)
Another form of special primary Route shield.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8234/8503945243_3aef856ea2_k.jpg)
The FM Highway stand alone.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8096/8503945115_4660d8fa7d_k.jpg)
Then the FM shield on a freeway guide.



The State of Texas is far from boring on its Route shields to say the least.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 26, 2022, 10:09:32 AM
I mean, I guess they're interesting.  But they're also the standard signs (except for the unique toll road ones).  As someone who drives a lot of miles in Texas, I actually find those photos rather un-interesting.

No offense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 26, 2022, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 26, 2022, 10:09:32 AM
I mean, I guess they're interesting.  But they're also the standard signs (except for the unique toll road ones).  As someone who drives a lot of miles in Texas, I actually find those photos rather un-interesting.

No offense.
^I agree.  Although I like the FM or RM or whatever other dinky road designation in Texas, just pointing them out because they don't exist in other states doesn't make them that unique.

It's like posting a shield from a WI lettered route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 26, 2022, 02:34:45 PM
2 Arrows 1 Exit (I-105 W at Prairie/Hawthorne, Los Angeles)

https://goo.gl/maps/AkNmzo3LVtDghfyK8

Bonus: button copy (still up)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 26, 2022, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 26, 2022, 10:09:32 AM
I mean, I guess they're interesting.  But they're also the standard signs (except for the unique toll road ones).  As someone who drives a lot of miles in Texas, I actually find those photos rather un-interesting.

No offense.
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None taken. 

I mean to say the many variations of the primary routes they have which other states have just one kind.  Yes the square shields are just that and IMO the FM and RM shields are the better ones for the eye to behold.  Believe me I grew up in NJ which shares a common interest with KY, MS, DE, IA, and formerly OK and VT with circles and no originality, so I know what the squares are. 

Riding Texas is like driving most of New England with those as no variation of shields per each state other than VT and NH.

However, what state has LOOP, SPUR, Park Road, NASA ROAD, Beltway. and PA designations for the state designations.  Yes GA comes close with CONN and SPUR, but you don't have those designations often in many states.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 26, 2022, 11:21:08 PM
The thing that is kind of disappointing about Texas is that it's so big and yet the signs are more or less identical in Amarillo as they are in Corpus Christi.

And none of the special shields, like the Sam Houston Tollway or the Dallas North Tollway, are really that interesting either. You would think a state with such a deep well of money, population, and cultural history as Texas would be able to do way better. By comparison, for example, Minnesota has only a fraction of the population and money as Texas but they have dozens of very artistic scenic highway signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 26, 2022, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 26, 2022, 02:34:45 PM
2 Arrows 1 Exit (I-105 W at Prairie/Hawthorne, Los Angeles)

https://goo.gl/maps/AkNmzo3LVtDghfyK8

Bonus: button copy (still up)

Was that supposed to be their half-assed way of signing an option and exit only lanes? That sign's definitely an interesting one, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 27, 2022, 09:07:32 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2022, 11:21:08 PM
The thing that is kind of disappointing about Texas is that it's so big and yet the signs are more or less identical in Amarillo as they are in Corpus Christi.

And none of the special shields, like the Sam Houston Tollway or the Dallas North Tollway, are really that interesting either. You would think a state with such a deep well of money, population, and cultural history as Texas would be able to do way better. By comparison, for example, Minnesota has only a fraction of the population and money as Texas but they have dozens of very artistic scenic highway signs.


I personally prefer the original Dallas North Tollway Shields before the ones they got now.


I do however like the artwork on the pier in this photo though.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52032087803/in/photostream/

Being the Johnson Space Flight Center is nearby, so it fits well to have the mural on the center pier on I-45 at NASA 1 interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2022, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2022, 11:21:08 PM
By comparison, for example, Minnesota has only a fraction of the population and money as Texas but they have dozens of very artistic scenic highway signs.

Holy cow, are there any officially designated scenic byways anywhere in Texas?

The are definitely some routes that should be designated as such, but I can't think of any.  Those would be awesome to identify and take a road trip on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 27, 2022, 11:37:26 AM
- SH 294 is nice, and one of the few where there's a semblance of autumn.

- US 377 from Rocksprings and Junction has some elevation changes and winds around some hillsides and valleys.

- RM 337 is a nice mountain drive from (north of) Uvalde to Banderas

Texas has several designated Heritage Trails, but I think they're more about tourism than beauty.

Examples: Texas Pecos Trail (https://www.legendsofamerica.com/tx-pecostrail/), Texas Tropical Trail (https://texastropicaltrail.com/), Texas Independence Trail (https://texasindependencetrail.com/)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 27, 2022, 12:13:16 PM
 :bigass:I was noticing that CA likes to place a shield above the mast arm mounting to the pole rather than either down lower with arrows extending or place it on a street blade on the arm itself.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52033858726_be4aed8899_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on April 27, 2022, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 27, 2022, 11:37:26 AM
- SH 294 is nice, and one of the few where there's a semblance of autumn.

- US 377 from Rocksprings and Junction has some elevation changes and winds around some hillsides and valleys.

- RM 337 is a nice mountain drive from (north of) Uvalde to Banderas

Texas has several designated Heritage Trails, but I think they're more about tourism than beauty.

Examples: Texas Pecos Trail (https://www.legendsofamerica.com/tx-pecostrail/), Texas Tropical Trail (https://texastropicaltrail.com/), Texas Independence Trail (https://texasindependencetrail.com/)

Texas Mountain Trail

RM 32 goes through the Devil's Backbone west of New Braunfels.

SH-71 goes by the Balcones Escarpment

PR-4 goes around Inks Lake

SH-16 is incredible going through the Texas Hill County from Bandera (no S) to Kerrville.

SH-118 thought the Davis Mountains is incredible.

Loop 375 though Franklin Mountains State Park is amazing. 

These are some of my favorites...

All are labeled on the map as scenic route.  They may not be official ordained as "scenic byways."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 27, 2022, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on April 27, 2022, 12:37:38 PM
All are labeled on the map as scenic route.  They may not be official ordained as "scenic byways."

"the map"  ??
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on April 27, 2022, 01:01:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2022, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on April 27, 2022, 12:37:38 PM
All are labeled on the map as scenic route.  They may not be official ordained as "scenic byways."

"the map"  ??

Rand McNally.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 27, 2022, 01:56:54 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 27, 2022, 11:37:26 AMTexas has several designated Heritage Trails, but I think they're more about tourism than beauty.

Examples: Texas Pecos Trail (https://www.legendsofamerica.com/tx-pecostrail/), Texas Tropical Trail (https://texastropicaltrail.com/), Texas Independence Trail (https://texasindependencetrail.com/)

More details can be found here:

Texas Heritage Trails Program (https://www.thc.texas.gov/preserve/projects-and-programs/texas-heritage-trails)

Map (PDF) of marked routes (https://www.thc.texas.gov/public/upload/publications/texas-heritage-travel-guide-map.pdf)

The first page has graphics of the markers for each route.  None is pattern-accurate, but each is based on a rendering in TxDOT's Standard Highway Sign Designs for Texas book that is pattern-accurate.

One highly scenic route not already mentioned is FM 170 between Presidio and Big Bend National Park.

(https://i.imgur.com/gLkfkdG.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 27, 2022, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 26, 2022, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 26, 2022, 02:34:45 PM
2 Arrows 1 Exit (I-105 W at Prairie/Hawthorne, Los Angeles)

https://goo.gl/maps/AkNmzo3LVtDghfyK8

Bonus: button copy (still up)

Was that supposed to be their half-assed way of signing an option and exit only lanes? That sign's definitely an interesting one, thanks for sharing.

Not sure. I'm not even sure what was added when. I'm sceptical it came from the sign shop like that, but Caltrans has never failed to surprise me before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 30, 2022, 07:21:04 AM
The fact in many places, Caltrans uses a slim font for the number five.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52033859056_ad3cec08e0_k.jpg)

Plus in this photo the direction banner is above the shield. Usually most CA Freeway ramps place the direction below it and above the arrows.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on April 30, 2022, 07:59:15 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 20, 2022, 05:46:43 PM
Another upside down install signal ahead sign in Willows, CA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52018427283_933deb76c1_k.jpg)

Do they have their own version of Tipperary Hill?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 01, 2022, 06:17:42 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2022, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2022, 11:21:08 PM
By comparison, for example, Minnesota has only a fraction of the population and money as Texas but they have dozens of very artistic scenic highway signs.

Holy cow, are there any officially designated scenic byways anywhere in Texas?

The are definitely some routes that should be designated as such, but I can't think of any.  Those would be awesome to identify and take a road trip on.

I just stumbled across the fact that Texas is one of only two states with no National Scenic Byways designated by FHWA. (Hawaii is the other, which makes me suspect it's more a matter of TxDOT simply not having much use for the program, rather than Texas being a federally designated non-scenic zone.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 01, 2022, 09:48:23 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 01, 2022, 06:17:42 AM
Quote from: kphoger on April 27, 2022, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 26, 2022, 11:21:08 PM
By comparison, for example, Minnesota has only a fraction of the population and money as Texas but they have dozens of very artistic scenic highway signs.

Holy cow, are there any officially designated scenic byways anywhere in Texas?

The are definitely some routes that should be designated as such, but I can't think of any.  Those would be awesome to identify and take a road trip on.

I just stumbled across the fact that Texas is one of only two states with no National Scenic Byways designated by FHWA. (Hawaii is the other, which makes me suspect it's more a matter of TxDOT simply not having much use for the program, rather than Texas being a federally designated non-scenic zone.)
Not sure that's a bad thing.  Here in NY, everyone wants every road to be a byway and it dilutes the whole idea.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 01, 2022, 10:52:03 AM
I was noticing the way the I-69 was added to the Beltway 8 exit guide for the Eastex Freeway near Houston.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49125582746_38d018cb83_k.jpg)

The greenout Behind the I-69 and US 59 shields shows that the sign previously read " North US 59"  and the NORTH banner was where the shields are now and the larger greenout behind the SOUTH was where the original US 59 shield was placed in the pre I-69 era.


It's odd that they didn't make it NORTH I-69/ US 59 as usually left exits or left side ramp splits like the direction first.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 01, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
In front of a new Amazon warehouse in Central Jersey, the contractor must have bought the signs off Amazon. They ordered circle NJ 33 shields but ended up with counterfeit CT 33 shields (with directional banners stolen from old-time Virginia):
(https://i.imgur.com/1XOEKjI.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 02, 2022, 10:01:01 AM
If I saw that sign near a large warehouse facility, I might even assume it was referring to something like "Building East 33" or "East Dock 33" or whatever.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 02, 2022, 06:17:04 PM
A sign warning of the possibility of punctured tires, but it's not a sign: it's a piece of paper glued to a cut up bus route sign.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52045032622_c04c0e507f_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ni3oYE)Risque de crevaison (https://flic.kr/p/2ni3oYE) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52045032812_589aac2b05_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ni3p2W)Risque de crevaison - close up (https://flic.kr/p/2ni3p2W) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

I suspect it is mainly targeted towards buses, hence why it's glued on an old bus stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: snowc on May 03, 2022, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on April 26, 2022, 02:34:45 PM
2 Arrows 1 Exit (I-105 W at Prairie/Hawthorne, Los Angeles)

https://goo.gl/maps/AkNmzo3LVtDghfyK8

Bonus: button copy (still up)
Link is not working.
EDIT: Working now. After a reboot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 03, 2022, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 02, 2022, 04:00:49 PM
Now it works after resetting internet.

Quote from: snowc on May 03, 2022, 02:52:44 PM
Working now. After a reboot.

You seem to have issues there...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 06, 2022, 11:31:21 PM
The ONE WAY sign overhead  for McKinney Street is neat.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50304433823_c525e87ce5_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 07, 2022, 12:39:39 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52019209230/in/photostream/

I think that the Welcome sign here is cool how they recognize the people of IL rather than whoever is in the State House like most states do at border entries.

Not knocking the common practice but it's not everywhere you see a Welcome sign like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 02:15:08 PM
Illinois' welcome sign is pretty good in my opinion. I think the overall idea of it is nice, and I prefer the practice of not including the governor's name. Not only is it more economical, but it's less "in-your-face" about politics. Which for Illinois, may be false advertising.  :spin:

I would prefer if the "From the People of Illinois" line was at the top, and I would also prefer different font choices. Maybe I'll have to do a redesign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 02:15:08 PM
Illinois' welcome sign is pretty good in my opinion. I think the overall idea of it is nice, and I prefer the practice of not including the governor's name. Not only is it more economical, but it's less "in-your-face" about politics. Which for Illinois, may be false advertising.  :spin:

I would prefer if the "From the People of Illinois" line was at the top, and I would also prefer different font choices. Maybe I'll have to do a redesign.

The Illinois welcome sign did contain the governor's name until 2009:
(https://i.imgur.com/JAouDtz.jpg)

Of course, said governor's name was Rod Blagojevich, who got into hot water after some Senator named Barack Obama randomly quit because he got some better job offer elsewhere or something like that. Wonder whatever happened to that guy. Anyway, Blagojevich was recorded openly conspiring to solicit bribes to fill said Senate seat and was tossed out of office. Since there was a general distaste for the concept of "the governor of Illinois" at that time, his successor, Pat Quinn, had it patched over with the "from the people of Illinois" text rather than his own name, and it's stayed that way ever since.

Blagojevich liked putting his name on absolutely everything, not just the welcome signs. It was on every single open-road tolling gantry too. It was odd enough that I commented about it at the 2008 Chicago meet, coming from a region where it's rare for the governor's name to appear on welcome signs or anything else like that.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3242/2424376140_c33d896620_c.jpg)
(image by Tony Webster, on Flickr)

It looks like in 2011 the Illinois Legislature passed a law prohibiting governors' names from appearing on signs, although the article seems to be behind a registration wall and I don't care enough to jump through that hoop to see what the details are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
We've actually had a thread on governors' names on state welcome signs, a practice I have attacked as reflecting a cult of personality.  I think we established that no state west of the Mississippi does it, although both red and blue states do it back east.

I remember Illinois welcome signs with "The People of the State of Illinois Welcome You" (or similar phrasing) back in the 1990's, and I do think it is a nice touch, as are goodbye signs ("Leaving Kansas -- Come Again").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 07, 2022, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
I think we established that no state west of the Mississippi does it, although both red and blue states do it back east.

That is my understanding as well. Never seen a governor's name on highway signage out west. Nothing large or important, at least.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 05:21:01 PM
Yeah, Illinois is right on the border with regards to the Mississippi. Thanks for the history regarding it. Blago was a bit before my time of awareness though I know who he is now. I can't imagine Pritzker's name on all toll gantries, though in a similar vein, I hear he's trying to mandate gas stations put some sticker about freezing the gas tax on all pumps.

While we're on the subject, Wisconsin actually does have the governor's name on their big wooden signs. (https://goo.gl/maps/PkE4MnbGH7iPFMEs9) Though if you turn back time, it used to have a plaque that read "OPEN FOR BUSINESS". On the latest view at this location, it's blank. But they now have Tony Evers' name on them. It would be nice if it wasn't there, but at least it's small.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
We've actually had a thread on governors' names on state welcome signs, a practice I have attacked as reflecting a cult of personality.  I think we established that no state west of the Mississippi does it, although both red and blue states do it back east.

Despite the very obvious downsides, I sort of like the practice for the same sentimental reasons I appreciate the officer signatures on paper money; the governor's name changing while the rest of the design stays the same alludes to the ideas of peaceful transfer of power and that the government is a going concern only under the authority of an individual for a relatively brief period of time. That being said, I think both the financial and cultural downsides heavily outweigh the meager sentimental reasons for doing so.

Quote
I remember Illinois welcome signs with "The People of the State of Illinois Welcome You" (or similar phrasing) back in the 1990's, and I do think it is a nice touch, as are goodbye signs ("Leaving Kansas -- Come Again").

Are there any states that regularly install such signage other than Kansas? I think I've seen specs for one from Minnesota, but I don't remember seeing it myself when I visited (or to be more accurate, stopped visiting) in 2012.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:29:24 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 05:21:01 PM
Yeah, Illinois is right on the border with regards to the Mississippi. Thanks for the history regarding it. Blago was a bit before my time of awareness though I know who he is now. I can't imagine Pritzker's name on all toll gantries, though in a similar vein, I hear he's trying to mandate gas stations put some sticker about freezing the gas tax on all pumps.

While we're on the subject, Wisconsin actually does have the governor's name on their big wooden signs. (https://goo.gl/maps/PkE4MnbGH7iPFMEs9) Though if you turn back time, it used to have a plaque that read "OPEN FOR BUSINESS". On the latest view at this location, it's blank. But they now have Tony Evers' name on them. It would be nice if it wasn't there, but at least it's small.

You're welcome. For what it's worth, here's a newer-style Wisconsin wooden sign with Jim Doyle's name on it (who served concurrently with Blagojevich in Illinois):
(https://i.imgur.com/dTgoBZz.jpg?1)

I'm guessing "EW" and "AG" are someone's initials, and not someone expressing disgust with Gov. Doyle's agricultural policies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:29:24 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 05:21:01 PM
Yeah, Illinois is right on the border with regards to the Mississippi. Thanks for the history regarding it. Blago was a bit before my time of awareness though I know who he is now. I can't imagine Pritzker's name on all toll gantries, though in a similar vein, I hear he's trying to mandate gas stations put some sticker about freezing the gas tax on all pumps.

While we're on the subject, Wisconsin actually does have the governor's name on their big wooden signs. (https://goo.gl/maps/PkE4MnbGH7iPFMEs9) Though if you turn back time, it used to have a plaque that read "OPEN FOR BUSINESS". On the latest view at this location, it's blank. But they now have Tony Evers' name on them. It would be nice if it wasn't there, but at least it's small.

You're welcome. For what it's worth, here's a newer-style Wisconsin wooden sign with Jim Doyle's name on it (who served concurrently with Blagojevich in Illinois):
(https://i.imgur.com/dTgoBZz.jpg?1)

I'm guessing "EW" and "AG" are someone's initials, and not someone expressing disgust with Gov. Doyle's agricultural policies.

I like the older style better. This one gives off Office 2003 Word Art vibes which is tacky. I also prefer the way the one I linked shows the Mississippi River and Green Bay in water blue color.

Although now that I'm thinking about it, the Mississippi does not border Wisconsin that far north.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 07, 2022, 05:43:26 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 07, 2022, 05:37:32 PM

I also prefer the way the one I linked shows the Mississippi River and Green Bay in water blue color.

Although now that I'm thinking about it, the Mississippi does not border Wisconsin that far north.
And Menomonie County MI is not underwater.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:25:18 PM
QuoteI remember Illinois welcome signs with "The People of the State of Illinois Welcome You" (or similar phrasing) back in the 1990's, and I do think it is a nice touch, as are goodbye signs ("Leaving Kansas -- Come Again").

Are there any states that regularly install such signage other than Kansas? I think I've seen specs for one from Minnesota, but I don't remember seeing it myself when I visited (or to be more accurate, stopped visiting) in 2012.

Kansas is not alone in using such signs--I-90 has a "Leaving Montana" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0028943,-107.2986439,3a,75y,157.37h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX28aeLhxVaPda5lmCerm-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)--though I'm struggling to think of other states that employ messaging encouraging repeat visits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:25:18 PM
QuoteI remember Illinois welcome signs with "The People of the State of Illinois Welcome You" (or similar phrasing) back in the 1990's, and I do think it is a nice touch, as are goodbye signs ("Leaving Kansas -- Come Again").

Are there any states that regularly install such signage other than Kansas? I think I've seen specs for one from Minnesota, but I don't remember seeing it myself when I visited (or to be more accurate, stopped visiting) in 2012.

Kansas is not alone in using such signs--I-90 has a "Leaving Montana" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0028943,-107.2986439,3a,75y,157.37h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX28aeLhxVaPda5lmCerm-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)--though I'm struggling to think of other states that employ messaging encouraging repeat visits.

Another interesting thing at this location is that, on the other side of the state line, there appears to be a lay-by constructed solely for the purpose of accessing the Wyoming welcome sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 07, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:25:18 PM
QuoteI remember Illinois welcome signs with "The People of the State of Illinois Welcome You" (or similar phrasing) back in the 1990's, and I do think it is a nice touch, as are goodbye signs ("Leaving Kansas -- Come Again").

Are there any states that regularly install such signage other than Kansas? I think I've seen specs for one from Minnesota, but I don't remember seeing it myself when I visited (or to be more accurate, stopped visiting) in 2012.

Kansas is not alone in using such signs--I-90 has a "Leaving Montana" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0028943,-107.2986439,3a,75y,157.37h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX28aeLhxVaPda5lmCerm-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)--though I'm struggling to think of other states that employ messaging encouraging repeat visits.

As a Washingtonian, this comes to mind:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/b7/96/07b7964d1952f834e092e463b55c5332.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 07, 2022, 10:35:45 PM
Florida has such signage too (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6196253,-83.1593607,3a,27.4y,309.65h,91.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEogvKVf08vw_MmyUxIAqog!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DEogvKVf08vw_MmyUxIAqog%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D37.250286%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 07, 2022, 11:14:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 07, 2022, 10:35:45 PM
Florida has such signage too (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6196253,-83.1593607,3a,27.4y,309.65h,91.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEogvKVf08vw_MmyUxIAqog!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DEogvKVf08vw_MmyUxIAqog%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D37.250286%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192).

Add New Mexico to the list. (https://goo.gl/maps/j9gVAMUKBoXqick26)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 08, 2022, 08:47:03 AM
If we're listing, here are a few.

Leaving Massachusetts on I-90, November 24, 2005.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20051124/leavingmass.jpg)

Leaving Maryland on US 15.  August 7, 2005.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20050807/leavingmd.jpg)

Leaving Ohio on I-70.  January 23, 2004.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20040123/leavingohio.jpg)

Leaving South Carolina on I-95.  August 22, 2003.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20030822/thankyou.jpg)

Leaving Utah on US 163.  April 30, 2004.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20040430/leavingutah.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MATraveler128 on May 08, 2022, 09:00:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/q7srOF5.jpg?1)

Don't forget Colorado.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on May 08, 2022, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 07, 2022, 11:14:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on May 07, 2022, 10:35:45 PM
Florida has such signage too (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.6196253,-83.1593607,3a,27.4y,309.65h,91.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEogvKVf08vw_MmyUxIAqog!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DEogvKVf08vw_MmyUxIAqog%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D37.250286%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192).

Add New Mexico to the list. (https://goo.gl/maps/j9gVAMUKBoXqick26)

There are a few variants to Leaving New Mexico signs.

US‐550 North going into Colorado has the tag, "Hasta La Vista" on it's departure signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 08, 2022, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 07, 2022, 05:25:18 PM
QuoteI remember Illinois welcome signs with "The People of the State of Illinois Welcome You" (or similar phrasing) back in the 1990's, and I do think it is a nice touch, as are goodbye signs ("Leaving Kansas -- Come Again").

Are there any states that regularly install such signage other than Kansas? I think I've seen specs for one from Minnesota, but I don't remember seeing it myself when I visited (or to be more accurate, stopped visiting) in 2012.

Kansas is not alone in using such signs--I-90 has a "Leaving Montana" sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0028943,-107.2986439,3a,75y,157.37h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX28aeLhxVaPda5lmCerm-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)--though I'm struggling to think of other states that employ messaging encouraging repeat visits.

Another interesting thing at this location is that, on the other side of the state line, there appears to be a lay-by constructed solely for the purpose of accessing the Wyoming welcome sign.

Wyoming and Colorado both have a lay-by for this purpose at the state line along I-25, which was the first time I'd seen a pull-out for a state line sign. (Although the southbound lay-by for the Welcome to Colorado sign is almost entirely in Wyoming, due to the position of the sign on the state line, whereas the northbound lay-by for Welcome to Wyoming sign is about half in each state with the sign located more inside the WY state line.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 08, 2022, 05:21:24 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 08, 2022, 03:34:19 PM
US‐550 North going into Colorado has the tag, "Hasta La Vista" on it's departure signs.

At least 20 years ago, the same was the case on I-25 NB.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20020412/leavingnm-close.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 09, 2022, 09:40:16 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52061031649_406be68ff3_k.jpg[/img]https://goo.gl/
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52061031649_406be68ff3_k.jpg)


Never saw a two side overhead except at freeway exit gores and both side by side.  Never facing two different ways before like this.


https://goo.gl/maps/sMZv8ejWJsE8PmG76
Here is Google with their caption.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on May 09, 2022, 02:53:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 07, 2022, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
I think we established that no state west of the Mississippi does it, although both red and blue states do it back east.

That is my understanding as well. Never seen a governor's name on highway signage out west. Nothing large or important, at least.

In New Jersey, this practice of putting politicians' names on everything extends well beyond highway welcome signs.

On signs advertising public works projects, parks, etc., it's very common to have a huge picture of the mayor or county exec's face, along with their name and the names of all the "chosen freeholders," "city councillors," or whatever responsible entity. And when I first noticed this it definitely came off as weird and culty, bat after a while you get used to it.

Northern NJ has been run by the political machine for a long time and I'm sure they've figured out that this sort of free advertising is very effective. I can even feel it working on me a little. The park system in Essex county is excellent and you start to get that strong connection with the county executive seeing his face plastered everywhere. As strange as it is at least it gives some accountability and reason to keep these public places in good shape.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 10, 2022, 02:41:18 AM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on May 09, 2022, 02:53:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 07, 2022, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
I think we established that no state west of the Mississippi does it, although both red and blue states do it back east.

That is my understanding as well. Never seen a governor's name on highway signage out west. Nothing large or important, at least.

In New Jersey, this practice of putting politicians' names on everything extends well beyond highway welcome signs.

On signs advertising public works projects, parks, etc., it's very common to have a huge picture of the mayor or county exec's face, along with their name and the names of all the "chosen freeholders," "city councillors," or whatever responsible entity. And when I first noticed this it definitely came off as weird and culty, bat after a while you get used to it.

Northern NJ has been run by the political machine for a long time and I'm sure they've figured out that this sort of free advertising is very effective. I can even feel it working on me a little. The park system in Essex county is excellent and you start to get that strong connection with the county executive seeing his face plastered everywhere. As strange as it is at least it gives some accountability and reason to keep these public places in good shape.

I find the practice of putting the executive official's name on buildings, etc., distasteful.  The decisions about what to fund and what not to fund are often a complex series of compromises, and just because they were the governor/mayor/county executive at the time doesn't mean they spent any political capital to get it done.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: yakra on May 10, 2022, 10:26:51 AM
TO R.I. 146 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0072289,-71.5102102,3a,15.2y,242.03h,90.42t/data=!3m10!1e1!3m8!1s1iAiavg1N4xFkr6gglwe_A!2e0!5s20190701T000000!7i16384!8i8192!9m2!1b1!2i40)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 10, 2022, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: kkt on May 10, 2022, 02:41:18 AM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on May 09, 2022, 02:53:58 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 07, 2022, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 07, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
I think we established that no state west of the Mississippi does it, although both red and blue states do it back east.

That is my understanding as well. Never seen a governor's name on highway signage out west. Nothing large or important, at least.

In New Jersey, this practice of putting politicians' names on everything extends well beyond highway welcome signs.

On signs advertising public works projects, parks, etc., it's very common to have a huge picture of the mayor or county exec's face, along with their name and the names of all the "chosen freeholders," "city councillors," or whatever responsible entity. And when I first noticed this it definitely came off as weird and culty, bat after a while you get used to it.

Northern NJ has been run by the political machine for a long time and I'm sure they've figured out that this sort of free advertising is very effective. I can even feel it working on me a little. The park system in Essex county is excellent and you start to get that strong connection with the county executive seeing his face plastered everywhere. As strange as it is at least it gives some accountability and reason to keep these public places in good shape.

I find the practice of putting the executive official's name on buildings, etc., distasteful.  The decisions about what to fund and what not to fund are often a complex series of compromises, and just because they were the governor/mayor/county executive at the time doesn't mean they spent any political capital to get it done.

I see that happen most often not in the naming of the building, but on a plaque on the inside of the building, that will often include the names of the officials in office when construction started and also when it was completed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 10, 2022, 06:09:48 PM
Not a bad sign, but just incorrect.  This sign (https://goo.gl/maps/vaWWtcTiZnJMHiz19) makes it seem like if you turn right onto this road you will eventually have a junction with Colorado State Highway 41, when reality is that is Colorado State Highway 41.  Greening out the JCT from the top would correct this error.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2022, 06:47:32 PM
An erroneous "JCT" is fa-a-a-a-a-ar from unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 10, 2022, 06:48:36 PM
More Great Moments in Project Planning, May 2022:

Detour sign:  Turn Left Here

Traffic signal:  No Left Turn

(https://i.imgur.com/ChJchKe.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 10, 2022, 07:02:58 PM
Quote from: yakra on May 10, 2022, 10:26:51 AM
TO R.I. 146 (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0072289,-71.5102102,3a,15.2y,242.03h,90.42t/data=!3m10!1e1!3m8!1s1iAiavg1N4xFkr6gglwe_A!2e0!5s20190701T000000!7i16384!8i8192!9m2!1b1!2i40)

I'm surprised it's not in one sign like Woonsocket usually does.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 07:39:00 PM
This one gives directions to both US 101 and Crescent City two different ways despite it takes the use of US 101 to reach the city from US 199.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52064896996_cb95c00829_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 10, 2022, 11:18:13 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on May 08, 2022, 09:00:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/q7srOF5.jpg?1)

Don't forget Colorado.
Looks more like an old-fashioned park sign.

Hey, did NYSDOT Region 10 get rid of this stupid thing yet?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WB_NY_25A;_NB_(Non)_NY_110_in_Huntington.jpg



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.

I mean, it's cool, but that's statewide standard for California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on May 11, 2022, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.

I mean, it's cool, but that's statewide standard for California.
So, they're not just leftover from "olden times?"

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 11, 2022, 08:39:04 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 11, 2022, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.

I mean, it's cool, but that's statewide standard for California.
So, they're not just leftover from "olden times?"



Not in California. That's the norm for US routes.




https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52021931631_3d00a5520f_k.jpg
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52021931631_3d00a5520f_k.jpg)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52021931811_6b18b9564f_k.jpg
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52021931811_6b18b9564f_k.jpg)

Love how Oregon uses one pole freeway guide supports near Grants Pass on I-5.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 11, 2022, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.

I mean, it's cool, but that's statewide standard for California.
So, they're not just leftover from "olden times?"

No, in fact they are an updated design.  They are a hybrid of the current US highway shield standard with text on it to give it an "faux" old shield feel.

I don't really like the current national standard US highway shield.  I always feel putting the shield on a black square field "demotes" the highway a bit.  Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway or some county road, when in fact it's the second line of defense when it comes to highways. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 11:00:21 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

Yes...and no.  Sometimes they are just slight step above state highways.  It's small potatoes, but in Texas on two lane highways, its not uncommon for a state or farm to market road to have 0.0 shoulders (like white stripe and on the other side of said stripe, grass), but US-highways will always have a shoulder.  Yes I know they do it on 4-lane undivided highways so that's another story.

By literal definition, yes they are.  They are state highways that the states agree to sign with a US-highway shield with a common digit.  There is nothing saying a state has to participate, so it can be US-50 in State X, enter state Y become Y State Highway 44, then cross into state Z and pick up the US-50 name and shield again. 

All that said, I do feel like there is a slight hierarchy.  Maybe it's because they are nation wide so I don't feel like, for the most part, a US highway is going to abruptly end.  Maybe because of that they feel a little less regional.  Whatever the reason, I still do have a feeling they are a cut above a state highway, even if that cut maybe paper thin. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 11:00:21 AM

Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

Yes...and no.  Sometimes they are just slight step above state highways.  It's small potatoes, but in Texas on two lane highways, its not uncommon for a state or farm to market road to have 0.0 shoulders (like white stripe and on the other side of said stripe, grass), but US-highways will always have a shoulder.  Yes I know they do it on 4-lane undivided highways so that's another story.

By literal definition, yes they are.  They are state highways that the states agree to sign with a US-highway shield with a common digit.  There is nothing saying a state has to participate, so it can be US-50 in State X, enter state Y become Y State Highway 44, then cross into state Z and pick up the US-50 name and shield again. 

All that said, I do feel like there is a slight hierarchy.  Maybe it's because they are nation wide so I don't feel like, for the most part, a US highway is going to abruptly end.  Maybe because of that they feel a little less regional.  Whatever the reason, I still do have a feeling they are a cut above a state highway, even if that cut maybe paper thin. 

You do realize there are more states than just Texas, right?  Plenty of US Route mileage in the county looks like this (https://goo.gl/maps/HE6d59d37dJtMSuG9) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/m2zwV5K4bqiypNmH9) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/GMyaDahYdaEF4AZy5) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/j4BsMYqZMwhTaNLG7).

Also, US-377 would like to have a word with you:  Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/S7VRyQPt42649ipJ6), Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/pZktreAFtAUdC7sMA).  So would US-183:  Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/rD9ifZzEx2aEFLDA6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 11, 2022, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

Well, they definitely aren't federal routes.

Whatever happened to Calrog anyway? He doesn't even post on MTR anymore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 11:37:04 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 11:00:21 AM

Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

Yes...and no.  Sometimes they are just slight step above state highways.  It's small potatoes, but in Texas on two lane highways, its not uncommon for a state or farm to market road to have 0.0 shoulders (like white stripe and on the other side of said stripe, grass), but US-highways will always have a shoulder.  Yes I know they do it on 4-lane undivided highways so that's another story.

By literal definition, yes they are.  They are state highways that the states agree to sign with a US-highway shield with a common digit.  There is nothing saying a state has to participate, so it can be US-50 in State X, enter state Y become Y State Highway 44, then cross into state Z and pick up the US-50 name and shield again. 

All that said, I do feel like there is a slight hierarchy.  Maybe it's because they are nation wide so I don't feel like, for the most part, a US highway is going to abruptly end.  Maybe because of that they feel a little less regional.  Whatever the reason, I still do have a feeling they are a cut above a state highway, even if that cut maybe paper thin. 

You do realize there are more states than just Texas, right?  Plenty of US Route mileage in the county looks like this (https://goo.gl/maps/HE6d59d37dJtMSuG9) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/m2zwV5K4bqiypNmH9) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/GMyaDahYdaEF4AZy5) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/j4BsMYqZMwhTaNLG7).

Also, US-377 would like to have a word with you:  Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/S7VRyQPt42649ipJ6), Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/pZktreAFtAUdC7sMA).  So would US-183:  Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/rD9ifZzEx2aEFLDA6)

Yes I have driven on narrow US highways in other states.  I qualified Texas because, like it or not, most of the time we tend to gravitate toward what's most familiar.  It doesn't matter how many states I drive through, I still tend to keep in my head the way Texas does stuff because I am most familiar with that.

That's a stretch of 183 I have never been on.  Its enlightening. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 11, 2022, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway or some county road
Ironic, given the county route shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7289182,-73.7968797,3a,15y,328.73h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1so8d48E0LIO8vgkAjkBfgjw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 12:23:16 PM

Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 11:37:04 AM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 11:00:21 AM

Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

Yes...and no.  Sometimes they are just slight step above state highways.  It's small potatoes, but in Texas on two lane highways, its not uncommon for a state or farm to market road to have 0.0 shoulders (like white stripe and on the other side of said stripe, grass), but US-highways will always have a shoulder.  Yes I know they do it on 4-lane undivided highways so that's another story.

By literal definition, yes they are.  They are state highways that the states agree to sign with a US-highway shield with a common digit.  There is nothing saying a state has to participate, so it can be US-50 in State X, enter state Y become Y State Highway 44, then cross into state Z and pick up the US-50 name and shield again. 

All that said, I do feel like there is a slight hierarchy.  Maybe it's because they are nation wide so I don't feel like, for the most part, a US highway is going to abruptly end.  Maybe because of that they feel a little less regional.  Whatever the reason, I still do have a feeling they are a cut above a state highway, even if that cut maybe paper thin. 

You do realize there are more states than just Texas, right?  Plenty of US Route mileage in the county looks like this (https://goo.gl/maps/HE6d59d37dJtMSuG9) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/m2zwV5K4bqiypNmH9) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/GMyaDahYdaEF4AZy5) and this (https://goo.gl/maps/j4BsMYqZMwhTaNLG7).

Also, US-377 would like to have a word with you:  Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/S7VRyQPt42649ipJ6), Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/pZktreAFtAUdC7sMA).  So would US-183:  Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/rD9ifZzEx2aEFLDA6)

Yes I have driven on narrow US highways in other states.  I qualified Texas because, like it or not, most of the time we tend to gravitate toward what's most familiar.  It doesn't matter how many states I drive through, I still tend to keep in my head the way Texas does stuff because I am most familiar with that.

That's a stretch of 183 I have never been on.  Its enlightening. 

Besides US-377 and US-183, there's also US-67 (https://goo.gl/maps/Ea3zfEnHpABNwqU36) and US-259 (https://goo.gl/maps/UNPCBLKnHQCcd6DN9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 11, 2022, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.

I mean, it's cool, but that's statewide standard for California.
So, they're not just leftover from "olden times?"

Nope. That's still in their MUTCD. The most recent update to that particular standard was in 2002.
(https://i.imgur.com/3LD0jO9.png)

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
No, in fact they are an updated design.  They are a hybrid of the current US highway shield standard with text on it to give it an "faux" old shield feel.

This standard was actually in use in the 1950s, it just wasn't part of the federal MUTCD. I think AASHTO may have created it, actually. California is just the only state that didn't switch to the 1961 and 1970 (present-day) MUTCD designs.

For example, here's one from Colorado. Michael Summa took the picture in 1983, Jake Bear identified the shield as being from 1952:
(https://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CO/CO19520362i1.jpg)

Said Colorado 1952 standards. It looks like cutouts were to be used for reassurance shields, and everything else used non-cutout shields. (This was a distinction that the MUTCD made between 1948 and 1961 for some reason. Most states used smaller cutouts with the state name for reassurance during this time period.)

(https://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CO/CO19520242l5.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 11, 2022, 06:33:21 PM
See? Even back then, Limon was in use as a control city.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 11, 2022, 06:49:19 PM
The cutout US shield (in the current California style) was also in the 1958 Interstate signing and marking manual and, as such, was a national standard.

I think the old (late 1950's/early 1960's) California outline guide-sign US shields are pretty neat.  They all had the same basic design that could be stretched to three or four different widths to allow bolded Series D digits to be used with good all-around space padding.  In that sense they were sort of similar to the current FM/RM guide-sign shields in Texas, which are rounded rectangles of fixed height with width that can be varied in six-inch increments as required to fit normally kerned Series D digits with satisfactory space padding.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 12, 2022, 12:17:15 AM
I have a "California style" Ohio US 30S, too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on May 12, 2022, 02:24:27 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

My understanding is states can't permanently reroute or abandon US routes without approval.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 12, 2022, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: kkt on May 12, 2022, 02:24:27 AM
Quote from: kphoger on May 11, 2022, 10:27:46 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
Without it being a cutout, the shield feels kinda like a state highway ...

I mean, they basically are.

My understanding is states can't permanently reroute or abandon US routes without approval.

Sure they can. AASHTO is a voluntary organization and there is no legal obligation for states to follow its directives. States make requests to AASHTO as a courtesy. If Kentucky wants to, for instance, swap KY 114 and US 460 between Salyersville and US 23, and AASHTO denies the request, Kentucky can sign the changes anyway with no repercussions.

Doesn't Oklahoma have a US route that is not AASHTO-approved but they've signed it anyway?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 12, 2022, 04:45:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 12, 2022, 12:43:25 PM
Doesn't Oklahoma have a US route that is not AASHTO-approved but they've signed it anyway?

Yes, US 377.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 12, 2022, 08:38:25 PM
US-377 is a bit of an anomaly. Oklahoma had been submitting requests for that extension for decades at the behest of a local booster organization. AASHTO kept rejecting it, as they were using a point system at the time, and both the proximity of US-177 and the fact the request was driven by a non-DOT organization. Finally, the local Congressman had the designation written into federal law. Oklahoma submitted it to AASHTO one last time. They rejected it again. ODOT shrugged and posted the signs under the authority of the law, rather than AASHTO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on May 13, 2022, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 11, 2022, 06:33:21 PM
See? Even back then, Limon was in use as a control city.  :-D

And don't forget Calhan. Calhan makes Limon look like New York.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 13, 2022, 10:26:03 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on May 13, 2022, 10:19:05 AM

Quote from: hbelkins on May 11, 2022, 06:33:21 PM
See? Even back then, Limon was in use as a control city.  :-D

And don't forget Calhan. Calhan makes Limon look like New York.

Calhan isn't a control city in that figure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Declan127 on May 14, 2022, 03:55:42 PM
Edit: fixed the quote string at the start
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 07:39:00 PM
This one gives directions to both US 101 and Crescent City two different ways despite it takes the use of US 101 to reach the city from US 199.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52064896996_cb95c00829_k.jpg)
Could it be that 199 is faster? In some cases when the direct route is slower the
Bypass or indirect rote like 95/495 in Wilmington. Sorry if this looks like a mess, my iPad is on the fritz...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Kniwt on May 14, 2022, 04:02:25 PM
On the CA 237 frontage road in Milpitas, there's this odd wayfinding instruction ... which, given the surroundings, wasn't especially helpful at all.

(https://i.imgur.com/2wmNNCW.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 15, 2022, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: Declan127 on May 14, 2022, 03:55:42 PM
Edit: fixed the quote string at the start
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 07:39:00 PM
This one gives directions to both US 101 and Crescent City two different ways despite it takes the use of US 101 to reach the city from US 199.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52064896996_cb95c00829_k.jpg)
Could it be that 199 is faster? In some cases when the direct route is slower the
Bypass or indirect rote like 95/495 in Wilmington. Sorry if this looks like a mess, my iPad is on the fritz...

Yeah, I don't think this sign is odd at all. Being rather familiar with this area, CA 197 is the cutoff for points north to Oregon, and Crescent City and other southbound traffic would continue on US 199. The only potential irregularity is that Crescent City is indeed reached by US 101 (US 199 terminates at US 101) but that point is not very far north of the city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 15, 2022, 01:14:16 PM
The thing about the sign that strikes me as unusual is the destination legend in mixed-case Series D rather than Series E Modified.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 08:46:47 AM
This No U Turn sign is odd.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52075714350_b6c6feb968_h.jpg)

Is this Caltrans normal?

Edit: Autocorrect sucks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 10:56:49 AM
Here is one with two arrows to make one.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/16755414361_5e1f73f0ef_k.jpg)

Then there is the empty Alabama MP bridge identification sign. As always an empty interstate shield on it as others in the state have them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 16, 2022, 05:25:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 10:56:49 AM
Here is one with two arrows to make one.

So...like...Section 2E.22 of the MUTCD?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on May 16, 2022, 06:30:11 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 16, 2022, 05:25:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 10:56:49 AM
Here is one with two arrows to make one.

So...like...Section 2E.22 of the MUTCD?

I guess diagrammatic signs really are a dying breed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on May 17, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
This guy had been kicking around the i-285-GA 400 construction site for the last several months. It's made of the modified top half of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/omhdWdCAxeiUfXbP8) and the modified bottom half of this one (https://goo.gl/maps/dj19pjgkN1atiuGT9). Below is my photo from a few weeks ago, but here's a Streetview from December 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/nZcJin2FF4ELybUa9) when it was literally coming apart.
(https://i.imgur.com/UeFlTtz.jpg)


The last time I was there, the old battleaxe had been replaced with this new, temporary masterpiece, in the Series C text now used for temporary signage on this project. No exit number tab, pointless divider line, two arrows for one exit. MUTCD? What's that?  :clap:
(https://i.imgur.com/BfdfB41.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: snowc on May 17, 2022, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on May 11, 2022, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 11, 2022, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 10, 2022, 11:30:44 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52064897131/in/photostream/
I am always partial to the existence of cut out shields.

I mean, it's cool, but that's statewide standard for California.
So, they're not just leftover from "olden times?"

Nope. That's still in their MUTCD. The most recent update to that particular standard was in 2002.
(https://i.imgur.com/3LD0jO9.png)

Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on May 11, 2022, 09:44:23 AM
No, in fact they are an updated design.  They are a hybrid of the current US highway shield standard with text on it to give it an "faux" old shield feel.

This standard was actually in use in the 1950s, it just wasn't part of the federal MUTCD. I think AASHTO may have created it, actually. California is just the only state that didn't switch to the 1961 and 1970 (present-day) MUTCD designs.

For example, here's one from Colorado. Michael Summa took the picture in 1983, Jake Bear identified the shield as being from 1952:
(https://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CO/CO19520362i1.jpg)

Said Colorado 1952 standards. It looks like cutouts were to be used for reassurance shields, and everything else used non-cutout shields. (This was a distinction that the MUTCD made between 1948 and 1961 for some reason. Most states used smaller cutouts with the state name for reassurance during this time period.)

(https://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CO/CO19520242l5.jpg)
Where can you find images from Michael Summa? I really like his images!
The only one I can find is the one from VA.
https://www.millenniumhwy.net/summa/summa.html (https://www.millenniumhwy.net/summa/summa.html)
Bryce
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 17, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 16, 2022, 05:25:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 10:56:49 AM
Here is one with two arrows to make one.

So...like...Section 2E.22 of the MUTCD?

I’m guessing pasting one arrow over the other was cheaper than greening out the original arrow.  The sign designers had no idea that someone here would photograph it at highway speed as it isn’t noticeable otherwise. Not that I’m complaining, which I am not, but I think it’s interesting the way they amended the arrow to reflect the wider I-10 here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 17, 2022, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 08:46:47 AM
This No U Turn sign is odd.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52075714350_b6c6feb968_h.jpg)

Is this Caltrans normal?

Edit: Autocorrect sucks.

Yeah, this sign is pretty common in California. Although I'm not sure it's the standard sign these days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 17, 2022, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2022, 08:46:47 AM
This No U Turn sign is odd.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52075714350_b6c6feb968_h.jpg)

Is this Caltrans normal?

Edit: Autocorrect sucks.

Yeah, this sign is pretty common in California. Although I'm not sure it's the standard sign these days.

R73-3 in the Caltrans MUTCD:

https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/programs/safety-programs/documents/signs/ca-sign-poster-2014rev2-a11y.pdf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 17, 2022, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on May 17, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
This guy had been kicking around the i-285-GA 400 construction site for the last several months. It's made of the modified top half of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/omhdWdCAxeiUfXbP8) and the modified bottom half of this one (https://goo.gl/maps/dj19pjgkN1atiuGT9). Below is my photo from a few weeks ago, but here's a Streetview from December 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/nZcJin2FF4ELybUa9) when it was literally coming apart.

[img

The last time I was there, the old battleaxe had been replaced with this new, temporary masterpiece, in the Series C text now used for temporary signage on this project. No exit number tab, pointless divider line, two arrows for one exit. MUTCD? What's that?  :clap:

[img

Nobody expects temporary construction zone signage to be up to spec.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 17, 2022, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on May 17, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
This guy had been kicking around the i-285-GA 400 construction site for the last several months. It's made of the modified top half of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/omhdWdCAxeiUfXbP8) and the modified bottom half of this one (https://goo.gl/maps/dj19pjgkN1atiuGT9). Below is my photo from a few weeks ago, but here's a Streetview from December 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/nZcJin2FF4ELybUa9) when it was literally coming apart.

[img

The last time I was there, the old battleaxe had been replaced with this new, temporary masterpiece, in the Series C text now used for temporary signage on this project. No exit number tab, pointless divider line, two arrows for one exit. MUTCD? What's that?  :clap:

[img

Nobody expects temporary construction zone signage to be up to spec.

Almost every road Facebook group does.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 17, 2022, 02:39:19 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 09:36:11 AM


Got something similar to this.
(https://storage13.openstreetcam.org/files/photo/2022/4/16/proc/5055417_bdc15b85e389f9f9f67462255de790ae.jpg)
The sign is orange, indicating a detour.

Which it is.  SR 1811 is exit 70 which is unusable during this portion of the construction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 17, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 17, 2022, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on May 17, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
This guy had been kicking around the i-285-GA 400 construction site for the last several months. It's made of the modified top half of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/omhdWdCAxeiUfXbP8) and the modified bottom half of this one (https://goo.gl/maps/dj19pjgkN1atiuGT9). Below is my photo from a few weeks ago, but here's a Streetview from December 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/nZcJin2FF4ELybUa9) when it was literally coming apart.

[img

The last time I was there, the old battleaxe had been replaced with this new, temporary masterpiece, in the Series C text now used for temporary signage on this project. No exit number tab, pointless divider line, two arrows for one exit. MUTCD? What's that?  :clap:

[img

Nobody expects temporary construction zone signage to be up to spec.

Almost every road Facebook group does.
FreewayJim doesn't count.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 03:56:49 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 17, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on May 17, 2022, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 17, 2022, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on May 17, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
This guy had been kicking around the i-285-GA 400 construction site for the last several months. It's made of the modified top half of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/omhdWdCAxeiUfXbP8) and the modified bottom half of this one (https://goo.gl/maps/dj19pjgkN1atiuGT9). Below is my photo from a few weeks ago, but here's a Streetview from December 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/nZcJin2FF4ELybUa9) when it was literally coming apart.

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The last time I was there, the old battleaxe had been replaced with this new, temporary masterpiece, in the Series C text now used for temporary signage on this project. No exit number tab, pointless divider line, two arrows for one exit. MUTCD? What's that?  :clap:

[img

Nobody expects temporary construction zone signage to be up to spec.

Almost every road Facebook group does.
FreewayJim doesn't count.

Not just FWJ, I've seen similar comments in Roadgeekery and There is no way that is MUTCD Compliant. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 17, 2022, 06:14:45 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 17, 2022, 09:45:45 AM
Where can you find images from Michael Summa? I really like his images!

http://shields.aaroads.com/ has a bunch, and so does Alpsroads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 17, 2022, 11:09:02 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51298501487/in/album-72157719513492163/

This shield has seen better days.

Time for Caltrans to put it to rest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 18, 2022, 12:37:15 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52082493784/
Another one in Texas though the 7 is just peeling away some.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52082493784/)

Though the "8"  seems of a different font altogether.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52082493784/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 18, 2022, 01:40:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 18, 2022, 12:37:15 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52082493784/
Another one in Texas though the 7 is just peeling away some.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52082493784/)

Though the "8"  seems of a different font altogether.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52082493784/)
The peeling 7 does make the 8 look different, but I think an unpeeled 7 would make the 8 the same font.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 18, 2022, 05:49:14 PM
It's not a different font. They're both Series D.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 19, 2022, 04:14:45 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 19, 2022, 03:28:58 PM
Here's some more images courtesy of Zillow.
The license plates (blurred per AARoads rules) are pretty cool and nostalgic!

(https://i.imgur.com/chw7x4W.png)

Can you spot the lone SC one?

OK, I give up.

  1.  Where is the sign in that photo?

  2.  What AARoads rule are you referring to?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US71 on May 19, 2022, 05:55:47 PM
I'd love to have one of these I I could afford it :
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/r0oAAOSwWqpidF5G/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 19, 2022, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: US71 on May 19, 2022, 05:55:47 PM
I'd love to have one of these I I could afford it :
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/r0oAAOSwWqpidF5G/s-l1600.jpg)

TRAVEL AT ROAD REPAIRS OWN RISK
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 19, 2022, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 17, 2022, 02:33:42 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on May 17, 2022, 04:29:20 AM
This guy had been kicking around the i-285-GA 400 construction site for the last several months. It's made of the modified top half of this sign (https://goo.gl/maps/omhdWdCAxeiUfXbP8) and the modified bottom half of this one (https://goo.gl/maps/dj19pjgkN1atiuGT9). Below is my photo from a few weeks ago, but here's a Streetview from December 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/nZcJin2FF4ELybUa9) when it was literally coming apart.

[img

The last time I was there, the old battleaxe had been replaced with this new, temporary masterpiece, in the Series C text now used for temporary signage on this project. No exit number tab, pointless divider line, two arrows for one exit. MUTCD? What's that?  :clap:

[img

Nobody expects temporary construction zone signage to be up to spec.

The more out-of-spec construction signage is, the better.

It's also more fleeting, so it won't sting so badly compared to seeing it for the next 10-20years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on May 19, 2022, 09:51:05 PM
Just processed my pictures from a ride to Providence back on March 1, and thought a few of these from Woonsocket would be of interest in this thread.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/toprovidence-20220301/P1060274-800.jpg)
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/toprovidence-20220301/P1060275-800.jpg)
(https://www.teresco.org/pics/toprovidence-20220301/P1060276-800.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 20, 2022, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 19, 2022, 04:14:45 PM
Quote from: snowc on May 19, 2022, 03:28:58 PM
Here's some more images courtesy of Zillow.
The license plates (blurred per AARoads rules) are pretty cool and nostalgic!

(https://i.imgur.com/chw7x4W.png)

Can you spot the lone SC one?

OK, I give up.

  1.  Where is the sign in that photo?

  2.  What AARoads rule are you referring to?

Probably one he made up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on May 20, 2022, 01:51:59 PM
Not survey what I like best about this. (https://goo.gl/maps/nGqTbjjekWa1VkGM8)  The reverse order of the shields or the text in on the arrow. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 20, 2022, 02:34:34 PM
heh.  New Mexico.  And nobody is surprised.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on May 21, 2022, 12:28:25 AM
Oregon put up 24 of these signs in 1980 after Mt. St. Helens dumped a lot of ash over thte state:

(https://i.imgur.com/UolxL2K.jpg)

Source: https://www.oregonlive.com/history/2022/05/mount-st-helens-eruption-anniversary-images-from-1980-capture-awesome-power-deadly-destruction.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 21, 2022, 02:38:35 PM
I have wanted to get a photo of this pair of shields for a couple years but it is hard to do so with all the heavy traffic, construction, etc. around it.  I finally settled for sharing street view's image of it, as it is too wacky not to share.  The I-76 shield was clearly doctored, possibly onsite, possibly even while it was on the posts as you can even tell driving by something is wrong with it.  The 6 is clearly hand-done and they look to have tried to color over the 7.  Guess they installed two 77 shields in the first place?

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281578024_10116885369536028_5517886595475469008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=wrTYdInLPVEAX_61Ygf&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT8BfYVKx_L9LEFuhVzigom8gfHmZ3psKe9C3muQN_0zGA&oe=628F1434)

https://goo.gl/maps/mbfEwUzpLxGBEua18
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 21, 2022, 08:22:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PLymzDQ.jpg)
An extremely non-standard sign installed incorrectly now rendering wrong useless information.

This was the intent of the horrible legend:
(https://i.imgur.com/bjXIlbw.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on May 23, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Saw an unusual street name in Las Vegas last week -- "Deliveries Only Way".

Couldn't get a pic, but the GSV is https://goo.gl/maps/7Bt489xXE4qARtVB6

(Looks like it goes to the loading dock at the Aria resort.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 24, 2022, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: GaryA on May 23, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Saw an unusual street name in Las Vegas last week -- "Deliveries Only Way".

Couldn't get a pic, but the GSV is https://goo.gl/maps/7Bt489xXE4qARtVB6

(Looks like it goes to the loading dock at the Aria resort.)

Here in my area, we have a street called Derby High School (https://goo.gl/maps/dBCbwkbHP3My7DzT7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 24, 2022, 04:16:46 PM
This one with a misplaced arrow to denote the far right lane exits.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52096853971_e91299bdc4_k.jpg)

Should point down to the right lane or have two arrows with one standard lane control and the other lane control with black Exit only pointing to the right lane.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 24, 2022, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 24, 2022, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: GaryA on May 23, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Saw an unusual street name in Las Vegas last week -- "Deliveries Only Way".

Couldn't get a pic, but the GSV is https://goo.gl/maps/7Bt489xXE4qARtVB6

(Looks like it goes to the loading dock at the Aria resort.)

Here in my area, we have a street called Derby High School (https://goo.gl/maps/dBCbwkbHP3My7DzT7).

The one similar instance here in Norman I can think of, they at least called it Reagan North Drive (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1995817,-97.4058764,3a,19y,201.67h,96.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spWsooYTDrJJCBgnLwAa4kA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

For Norman North High School, they signed it as Timberwolves Trail (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2417082,-97.4500238,3a,41.4y,23.37h,94.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su-ZZjdSPrrW7Z1EgTBmzUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (after the school mascot).

(Also, regarding your example, I have to wonder if they intentionally created the intersection of Rock and Pinion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_and_pinion)...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on May 24, 2022, 08:25:55 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 24, 2022, 06:41:47 PM
For Norman North High School, they signed it as Timberwolves Trail (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.2417082,-97.4500238,3a,41.4y,23.37h,94.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su-ZZjdSPrrW7Z1EgTBmzUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (after the school mascot).

Pretty common, I think.

For example:  Harrisburg (IL) Middle School's address is Bulldog Drive–which is actually signed as Purple Pride Drive (https://goo.gl/maps/MgjMgFdn5ZxEUfwX8).  (That fact confused me the first time I, a recent transplant to the area, needed to make a delivery there.)  They are "Home of the Bulldogs", and their school color is purple.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 24, 2022, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: GaryA on May 23, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Saw an unusual street name in Las Vegas last week -- "Deliveries Only Way".

Couldn't get a pic, but the GSV is https://goo.gl/maps/7Bt489xXE4qARtVB6

(Looks like it goes to the loading dock at the Aria resort.)

Frank Sinatra is the #protip of Vegas. We use it to avoid mainline traffic on LV Blvd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on May 25, 2022, 02:58:24 AM
Quote from: GaryA on May 23, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
Saw an unusual street name in Las Vegas last week -- "Deliveries Only Way".

Couldn't get a pic, but the GSV is https://goo.gl/maps/7Bt489xXE4qARtVB6

(Looks like it goes to the loading dock at the Aria resort.)

Probably the one-way street heading into The Bank.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 25, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 21, 2022, 02:38:35 PM
I have wanted to get a photo of this pair of shields for a couple years but it is hard to do so with all the heavy traffic, construction, etc. around it.  I finally settled for sharing street view's image of it, as it is too wacky not to share.  The I-76 shield was clearly doctored, possibly onsite, possibly even while it was on the posts as you can even tell driving by something is wrong with it.  The 6 is clearly hand-done and they look to have tried to color over the 7.  Guess they installed two 77 shields in the first place?

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/281578024_10116885369536028_5517886595475469008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=wrTYdInLPVEAX_61Ygf&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=00_AT8BfYVKx_L9LEFuhVzigom8gfHmZ3psKe9C3muQN_0zGA&oe=628F1434)

https://goo.gl/maps/mbfEwUzpLxGBEua18

Having neither currently a life nor anything better to do yesterday, I drove the 480-mile round trip to Akron to get this and some other sign photos.  (Bonus was some walking at Cuyahoga Valley NP and my first visit to a Sheetz for a bite.  My arteries are still clogging from the mozzarella sticks burger, but that was a good eat.)

As PurdueBill noted, pretty much all of I-77 in Akron is under heavy long-term construction, including reconstruction of the I-76/I-77/OH-8 interchange with new flyovers to northbound OH-8 and to southbound I-77.  This assembly is oddly placed in the middle of the interchange before the point where I-77 merges in, and currently is the only duplex assembly in the westbound direction.  After a couple unsuccessful attempts at a photo while moving, I finally stopped on the narrow shoulder and walked back a bit to get this photo.  Don't ask how stupid that was (answer: really stupid).

The I-76 shield seems to be the same as the one in the GSV imagery, with the funky "6," but it appears that someone has since made an additional effort to paint or tape over the "7" that was originally there.  You can still see it if you zoom in.  Feel free to save this image for yourselves or for sharing, but please put my username with it.

(https://i.imgur.com/rW2cl9i.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 26, 2022, 12:24:48 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on May 25, 2022, 02:50:19 PM
Having neither currently a life nor anything better to do yesterday, I drove the 480-mile round trip to Akron to get this and some other sign photos.  (Bonus was some walking at Cuyahoga Valley NP and my first visit to a Sheetz for a bite.  My arteries are still clogging from the mozzarella sticks burger, but that was a good eat.)

As PurdueBill noted, pretty much all of I-77 in Akron is under heavy long-term construction, including reconstruction of the I-76/I-77/OH-8 interchange with new flyovers to northbound OH-8 and to southbound I-77.  This assembly is oddly placed in the middle of the interchange before the point where I-77 merges in, and currently is the only duplex assembly in the westbound direction.  After a couple unsuccessful attempts at a photo while moving, I finally stopped on the narrow shoulder and walked back a bit to get this photo.  Don't ask how stupid that was (answer: really stupid).

The I-76 shield seems to be the same as the one in the GSV imagery, with the funky "6," but it appears that someone has since made an additional effort to paint or tape over the "7" that was originally there.  You can still see it if you zoom in.  Feel free to save this image for yourselves or for sharing, but please put my username with it.

(https://i.imgur.com/rW2cl9i.jpg)


The current shields replaced ones that were a good bit older that had been there a long time.  (Although the whole stretch has had stuff routed here and there and they completely eliminated bridges over a vacated rail ROW a few years back, slightly changing the alignment.)  The holdover is that 77 is to the left of 76; this was on many BGSs as well and is supposedly a carryover of carbon copying stuff from when 76 was 80S (so the lower number, going on the left, was 77 at the time).  There are indeed no other duplex shield assemblies.  There once were duplex blue 2/10 mile markers on the stretch; they only had E or W for the direction, so they showed 76 and 77 shields with only the direction and mileage of 76.  (They were replaced in 2011 with ones reading 76 only, and generally 0.6 miles lower than the ones they replaced. And the 76/77 combo ones extended onto the 76-only Kenmore leg.  What a mess.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 26, 2022, 02:28:20 AM
^^ Does the sign read as it is supposed to at night, meaning do the 6 and the blueout reflect correctly?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:01:12 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58WKB13GRqJB1WGf7
This sign here I must say is odd. APL for the pull through with I-74/465 East it's own standard exit guide.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 26, 2022, 11:26:32 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:01:12 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58WKB13GRqJB1WGf7
This sign here I must say is odd. APL for the pull through with I-74/465 East it's own standard exit guide.

I've always thought this made more sense for situations like this. Although I would have preferred standard APL arrows for the EAST exit sign, this is still quite good.

The way I see it, there really isn't much of a reason to have APLs all be a giant, single panel. This type of approach seems just as effective, in terms of both cost, as well as comprehension.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 26, 2022, 12:02:43 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 26, 2022, 11:26:32 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 26, 2022, 08:01:12 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/58WKB13GRqJB1WGf7
This sign here I must say is odd. APL for the pull through with I-74/465 East it's own standard exit guide.

I've always thought this made more sense for situations like this. Although I would have preferred standard APL arrows for the EAST exit sign, this is still quite good.

The way I see it, there really isn't much of a reason to have APLs all be a giant, single panel. This type of approach seems just as effective, in terms of both cost, as well as comprehension.

The killer is the prohibition on showing downstream splits on an APL, so this seems to be the next best thing with the exit ramp splitting very soon after the initial exit.
The very large direction text, lines between directions and shields, and the amount of space between the directions/lines/shields are kinda weird.  It seems like the directions could be above the shields without the lines.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 30, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
New sign on sbd I-75 in Hazel Park MI following last year's reconstruction and widening:  a LANE ENDS sign over the second right lane.  WTF?!

(https://i.imgur.com/safFi45.jpg)

(The right lane is exit-only at the next interchange, but the sign for that isn't until a half-mile farther along.)

(https://i.imgur.com/xChMa2h.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 30, 2022, 07:57:53 PM
^^ What is the reason for no dashed lines?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 30, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 30, 2022, 07:57:53 PM
^^ What is the reason for no dashed lines?

Encouraging people not to change lanes in the sharp curve.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on May 30, 2022, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 30, 2022, 07:57:53 PM
^^ What is the reason for no dashed lines?

Encouraging people not to change lanes in the sharp curve.

That makes the placement of the Lane Ends sign even worse. That encourages people to try and change lanes there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 30, 2022, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 30, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: Big John on May 30, 2022, 07:57:53 PM
^^ What is the reason for no dashed lines?

Encouraging people not to change lanes in the sharp curve.

That makes the placement of the Lane Ends sign even worse. That encourages people to try and change lanes there.

Totally agree. That sign is placed way too early and will result in movements that would seem to be otherwise undesirable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 31, 2022, 11:46:42 AM
 ;-)This winding road sign is unusual for an expressway exit or mainline.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50637928256_57dd20ace9_k.jpg


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50637928256_57dd20ace9_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 01, 2022, 10:45:57 AM
Texas can't make a good US Highway shield (https://goo.gl/maps/BDmxoS4xARraCaZDA) anymore to save their life.  It's depressing because they used to be so good at it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on June 02, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
I just posted this in Road Sign UNO, but damn this sign in Saskatoon looks ugly too me (particularly the right one). The "TCH 16" shield on the right is way too small and why is "WEST" written twice on the right sign (and in two different fonts)? I also feel like the down arrows are too big, but maybe that's personal preference.

(GSV link (https://www.google.ca/maps/@52.0940549,-106.6049951,3a,42.1y,179.1h,94.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4K7i_k8P60chEqXIx2KW7A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)). Photo below taken in 2016 on my cell phone (so not the best quality :colorful:):
(https://i.imgur.com/c8C4MjM.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 02, 2022, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 02, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
why is "WEST" written twice on the right sign

Is Circle Drive even part of TCH-16?  Advance signage seems to indicate that it is, but gore signage does not.

This signage (https://goo.gl/maps/yjuNHJXFbCrBEs566) is even more confusing, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 02, 2022, 11:56:12 AM
The fact it's rather faded doesn't help.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 02, 2022, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 02, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
I just posted this in Road Sign UNO, but damn this sign in Saskatoon looks ugly too me (particularly the right one). The "TCH 16" shield on the right is way too small and why is "WEST" written twice on the right sign (and in two different fonts)? I also feel like the down arrows are too big, but maybe that's personal preference.

One of those WESTs is in Clearview correct?  If so, if there was some rando button copy (maybe the arrow) on that same BGS, then we would have the road sign hat trick!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on June 02, 2022, 01:18:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 02, 2022, 11:55:11 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 02, 2022, 11:43:14 AM
why is "WEST" written twice on the right sign

Is Circle Drive even part of TCH-16?  Advance signage seems to indicate that it is, but gore signage does not.

This signage (https://goo.gl/maps/yjuNHJXFbCrBEs566) is even more confusing, in my opinion.

Circle Drive is a mostly-freeway ring road around Saskatoon (not sure why it's called "Drive") and TCH 16 follows the NE half of it. I'm not sure what you mean about the gore signage.

Yeah your example is really bad. It seems to suggest that SK 11 and TCH 16 go along both sides of Circle Drive.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 02, 2022, 01:33:02 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on June 02, 2022, 01:18:58 PM
I'm not sure what you mean about the gore signage.

Northbound:
Exit in 500m for TCH-16 West (https://goo.gl/maps/PLe9Uqs2h3ALP3BL9)
No mention of TCH-16 West at the actual exit (https://goo.gl/maps/hrrSk1A372QG1SPC8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 02, 2022, 02:19:10 PM
I'm really stretching the definition of "sign" here, as it's a sheet of paper with regulations on it. (It says "NO PARKING EXCEPT FOR STAFF - TOWING AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE".)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52117758984_9359ddb37b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2npt8Zs)NO PARKING on a sheet of paper (https://flic.kr/p/2npt8Zs) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on June 02, 2022, 08:47:19 PM
yall think this is unique? https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3820213,-119.0411485,3a,15y,321.54h,91.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suFzm97lXmAkPrTrB--ZfHA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DuFzm97lXmAkPrTrB--ZfHA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D234.18672%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 02, 2022, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on June 02, 2022, 08:47:19 PM
yall think this is unique? https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3820213,-119.0411485,3a,15y,321.54h,91.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suFzm97lXmAkPrTrB--ZfHA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DuFzm97lXmAkPrTrB--ZfHA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D234.18672%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

not really
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 06, 2022, 08:44:17 AM
Punctuation or should I say lack of, is always interesting in abbreviations.
https://goo.gl/maps/TxfBQstmGdMSTaci7

https://goo.gl/maps/MQqYS8CMNzS997EQA

I know there are some users users on here who get mad over this kind of practice 😂
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 06, 2022, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).

Getting people used to toll-by-plate is a PR nightmare.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 06, 2022, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).

Getting people used to toll-by-plate is a PR nightmare.

Yeah, I saw Stanley Roberts's reports from San Francisco on the day cash tolls ended on the Golden Gate Bridge (notice the signs saying "Do Not Stop" and the red message saying "Please Proceed"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svzY_uJtvWQ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on June 06, 2022, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 06, 2022, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).

Getting people used to toll-by-plate is a PR nightmare.

Not making it clear whether a toll tag is required or not (and whether drivers without a tag need cash or will be billed) is something that can leave drivers uncertain and likely to avoid a highway.  I think agencies are getting better at it, but it will take time.  As toll-by-plate becomes more common, the exceptions will need to be clearly signed.

An especially confusing case can be such as some California HOT lanes, where carpools do not pay a toll, but still need a FasTrak responder (and may need one with the "number of occupants" switch).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 06, 2022, 01:14:28 PM
Quote from: GaryA on June 06, 2022, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 06, 2022, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).

Getting people used to toll-by-plate is a PR nightmare.

Not making it clear whether a toll tag is required or not (and whether drivers without a tag need cash or will be billed) is something that can leave drivers uncertain and likely to avoid a highway.  I think agencies are getting better at it, but it will take time.  As toll-by-plate becomes more common, the exceptions will need to be clearly signed.

An especially confusing case can be such as some California HOT lanes, where carpools do not pay a toll, but still need a FasTrak responder (and may need one with the "number of occupants" switch).

A lot of it is motorists don't look at signs that they don't think pertain to them. Drive up to a traditional toll plaza and motorists will ask how much the toll is, even if there's been multiple signs informing them of the toll. Toll roads with tickets are even worse...most motorists unfamiliar with the ticket don't even bother reading it, and just hand it over at Exit (if they remember they even got a ticket in the first place) and have the toll taker inform them of the amount.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 06, 2022, 03:19:06 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 06, 2022, 08:44:17 AM
Punctuation or should I say lack of, is always interesting in abbreviations.
https://goo.gl/maps/TxfBQstmGdMSTaci7

https://goo.gl/maps/MQqYS8CMNzS997EQA

I know there are some users users on here who get mad over this kind of practice 😂

What is the current guidance in the manual regarding punctuation?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on June 06, 2022, 04:42:50 PM
I'm pretty sure this "no motor vehicles" sign is neither Vienna Convention nor MUTCD compliant...

Cool color though.

(https://www.lysator.liu.se/~riiga/Bilder/Foton/P_20220606_115305-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 06, 2022, 08:01:15 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).

The Pennsylvania Turnpike: If our gas prices won't bankrupt you, our tolls will ‐‐ All Vehicles Welcome!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 07, 2022, 04:10:47 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51912946731_6b3fe6795c_k.jpg)https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51912946731_6b3fe6795c_k.jpg
Think the Exit Only label need replacing. 😂
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 08, 2022, 11:20:41 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52130725117/in/dateposted-public/
This old style FL Route shield (still standing) is very cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 08, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
I drove past this temporary sign today; located just before a busy intersection in Northville, MI.  Gosh, I feel safer already.

(https://i.imgur.com/jxyWqK7.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 08, 2022, 06:24:59 PM
I have a feeling this stop sign was posted by a private landowner, but I still found it interesting. This is near First Watch off Pines Boulevard just west of Flamingo Road in Pembroke Pines, Florida.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220608/591ba69f70f394b1e177d4db2e53caa8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 08, 2022, 06:46:13 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/2MkaUUytKCVxnkzW6
The Flags and USA as a control city is odd, but after collecting tolls I know why it's needed. Although one on his or her cell phone won't see either and end up in the toll for the Bluewater Bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 08, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 08, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
I drove past this temporary sign today; located just before a busy intersection in Northville, MI.  Gosh, I feel safer already.

(https://i.imgur.com/jxyWqK7.jpg)


Was there a regulatory sign farther upstream requiring drivers to reduce crashes?  If not, then what was there to enforce?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 09, 2022, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 08, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 08, 2022, 06:03:49 PM
I drove past this temporary sign today; located just before a busy intersection in Northville, MI.  Gosh, I feel safer already.

(https://i.imgur.com/jxyWqK7.jpg)


Was there a regulatory sign farther upstream requiring drivers to reduce crashes?  If not, then what was there to enforce?

"Drives cannot crash in 1,000 feet"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 09, 2022, 05:21:38 PM
https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1534966024235274256
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 11, 2022, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 09, 2022, 05:21:38 PM
https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1534966024235274256


Ha ha😂



(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/16345697127_020d25f694_c.jpg)
This here is crazy. Although they preserved the original no doubt.







https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/16345697127_020d25f694_c.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 11, 2022, 11:17:56 AM
Multiple tweets today showing that the "Anocosita" sign seen above (and another nearby with the same spelling error) were replaced yesterday.

For those unaware, the correct spelling is "Anacostia."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 11, 2022, 11:26:01 AM
Quote from:  :sombrero:1995hoo on June 11, 2022, 11:17:56 AM
Multiple tweets today showing that the "Anocosita" sign seen above (and another nearby with the same spelling error) were replaced yesterday.

For those unaware, the correct spelling is "Anacostia."

Maybe NE 2 complained to them and put the fear of God into them. :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on June 11, 2022, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 07, 2022, 04:10:47 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51912946731_6b3fe6795c_k.jpg)https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51912946731_6b3fe6795c_k.jpg

Imagine that, gas costing less than $4 in California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 11, 2022, 04:13:27 PM
$6.09 for 91 this morning at my favourite dirt cheap station, so that must have been taken in 1972. ;)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on June 12, 2022, 01:35:48 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on June 11, 2022, 04:13:27 PM
$6.09 for 91 this morning at my favourite dirt cheap station, so that must have been taken in 1972. ;)

Can't be more than a few years ago because Caltrans didn't put up exit numbers until the 2010s or so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on June 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: Rothman on June 06, 2022, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 06, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
I was looking at Google Street View in the vicinity of Scranton and noted this sign on southbound I-81 in advance of the Northeast Extension (https://goo.gl/maps/8f5s6D34VG5esAq66). "All Vehicles Welcome" is strange wording for a BGS. If it were a sign for a rest area or something similar where large trucks sometimes aren't allowed, it wouldn't be so odd, but I can't say I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere (and the last time I went through there southbound was January 2006; Street View shows there was no equivalent sign back then).

Getting people used to toll-by-plate is a PR nightmare.

Yeah, I saw Stanley Roberts's reports from San Francisco on the day cash tolls ended on the Golden Gate Bridge (notice the signs saying "Do Not Stop" and the red message saying "Please Proceed"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svzY_uJtvWQ

This is why if agencies want to go 100% cashless for tolling, they should go with open road tolling, a la the Illinois Tollways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 12, 2022, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PM
This is why if agencies want to go 100% cashless for tolling, they should go with open road tolling, a la the Illinois Tollways.

I assume that was the long-term plan, it's just that the date they could go cashless took place before they could do any work to physically remove the toll booths.

Those are really neat looking booths, too. They really complement the design of the bridge itself. Shame they're not needed anymore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 14, 2022, 06:49:04 PM
A blue, as opposed to the standard green, kilometer marker on Chemin de la Rivière Pickano in Outaouais:

(https://i.imgur.com/ff5VW8c.png)
(Street View link (https://goo.gl/maps/9bJXeukwNidbEGRZ8))
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 15, 2022, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 12, 2022, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PM
This is why if agencies want to go 100% cashless for tolling, they should go with open road tolling, a la the Illinois Tollways.

I assume that was the long-term plan, it's just that the date they could go cashless took place before they could do any work to physically remove the toll booths.

Those are really neat looking booths, too. They really complement the design of the bridge itself. Shame they're not needed anymore.

I wonder how the Golden Gate Bridge is going to be with them being cashless and the plaza being so iconic. My guess is the famous clock will be restored to a museum or some other place.






https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49146889186/in/album-72157648166918803/

BTW I find it odd the exit only warning didn’t get fully greened out

This one is a poor green out over an Exit Only warning.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52146859834/in/dateposted-public/
Then here is a Right Lane Ends sign on a merge lane where it’s the nature of a merge lane to end. Plus the county line sign is not the county line.
.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on June 15, 2022, 01:59:59 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 15, 2022, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 12, 2022, 10:33:03 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on June 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PM
This is why if agencies want to go 100% cashless for tolling, they should go with open road tolling, a la the Illinois Tollways.

I assume that was the long-term plan, it's just that the date they could go cashless took place before they could do any work to physically remove the toll booths.

Those are really neat looking booths, too. They really complement the design of the bridge itself. Shame they're not needed anymore.

I wonder how the Golden Gate Bridge is going to be with them being cashless and the plaza being so iconic. My guess is the famous clock will be restored to a museum or some other place.






https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/49146889186/in/album-72157648166918803/

BTW I find it odd the exit only warning didn't get fully greened out

This one is a poor green out over an Exit Only warning.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52146859834/in/dateposted-public/
Then here is a Right Lane Ends sign on a merge lane where it's the nature of a merge lane to end. Plus the county line sign is not the county line.
.

The Golden Gate Bridge has been cashless since 2013 but the booths remain. The Bay Bridge, on the other hand, went cashless in March 2020 as a way to protect workers. It is now permanently cashless. I suspect CalTrans will remove those toll booths for open road tolling. The Golden Gate is not maintained by CalTrans but is instead maintained by a special transportation district.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 16, 2022, 11:01:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/v3apbbHbpWf7JiqXA
This one here directs motorists to use US 431 to US 231 back to US84 for Enterprise.

I'm assuming that the south part of the circle is shorter than than the north end where US 84 follows?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on June 17, 2022, 10:18:24 AM
I find this BGS setup (https://goo.gl/maps/kjyGUbDXwbXrFccW6) more entertaining than anything else.  If you look past the Highway Gothic signs with Clearview exit tabs, There is the juxtaposition of seeing a three digit shield for a 2di right next to the way the shield is supposed to be. It makes how ugly the three digit shield for a 2di even more apparent, which is also what makes the Clearview more ugly, it being next to the beautiful font!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 17, 2022, 10:09:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 17, 2022, 10:18:24 AM
I find this BGS setup (https://goo.gl/maps/kjyGUbDXwbXrFccW6) more entertaining than anything else.  If you look past the Highway Gothic signs with Clearview exit tabs, There is the juxtaposition of seeing a three digit shield for a 2di right next to the way the shield is supposed to be. It makes how ugly the three digit shield for a 2di even more apparent, which is also what makes the Clearview more ugly, it being next to the beautiful font!

Personally, in the few times I've been to Texas over the years, I don't mind seeing 2-digit numbers on 3-digit I-shields.  Just like I enjoy seeing 3-digit numbers on 2-digit US or State Highway shields -- the latter being throwbacks to the past -- and the Texas 2-digit shields being a nod into the future.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 19, 2022, 11:12:47 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52157751098_80c096cb0b_c.jpg
The speed zone sign is a rarity to see like this.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52157751098_80c096cb0b_c.jpg)

Usually the old Reduced Speed Ahead or the new yellow diamond with the arrow and small speed limit sign is the norm.  The latter becoming more prominent.

Though odd to with a shield assembly I must say.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 19, 2022, 11:33:53 AM
^^ The worded sign is a MUTCD-compliant (W3-5a) alternative to the arrow and small speed-limit sign (W3-5)
(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/images/fig2c_07_sm.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 19, 2022, 07:41:51 PM
The trend these days is to omit the state name on the interstate shield.  As I saw today, however, NH has tried out something different: https://goo.gl/maps/TH4UDfzPDBFLLDQc6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FredAkbar on June 21, 2022, 01:28:51 AM
Saw a couple of signs coming up I-5 or thereabouts with an odd font on one of the numbers. Here's one of them: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8031443,-120.7413148,3a,75y,352.39h,78.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbJ1tKvQwXDrqnwYdDgQxSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

(Can't remember where the other one was.)
(https://i.imgur.com/MJgvIj8.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 21, 2022, 12:13:05 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 06, 2022, 07:38:01 PM
The northernmost 56 miles of I-75 are getting new signs, including bilingual weight limit signing for the International Bridge at Sault Ste. Marie:

Something else I just noticed on the sign plans:  I think this is Michigan's first use of the word "toll" instead of "fare" on BGSs.  New standard?

(https://i.imgur.com/pcu4XBC.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 21, 2022, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 21, 2022, 12:13:05 PMSomething else I just noticed on the sign plans:  I think this is Michigan's first use of the word "toll" instead of "fare" on BGSs.  New standard?

I don't know.  Practitioners do occasionally look at this forum, and I think past comments about the "fare" verbiage might have prompted a rethink.  I don't think we ever discovered why the signs say "fare" when the enabling legislation for, e.g., the Mackinac Bridge authority uses the term "toll."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 24, 2022, 09:00:48 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52168825081_4c28cc12b2_k.jpg


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52168825081_4c28cc12b2_k.jpg)
The TO GA 216 is an oddity.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on June 24, 2022, 09:03:39 AM
Quote from: FredAkbar on June 21, 2022, 01:28:51 AM
Saw a couple of signs coming up I-5 or thereabouts with an odd font on one of the numbers. Here's one of them: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8031443,-120.7413148,3a,75y,352.39h,78.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbJ1tKvQwXDrqnwYdDgQxSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

(Can't remember where the other one was.)
(https://i.imgur.com/MJgvIj8.png)

Unless my Spanish is way off, doesn't that sign say it's 20 miles to the bathrooms?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on June 24, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on June 24, 2022, 09:03:39 AM
Unless my Spanish is way off, doesn't that sign say it's 20 miles to the bathrooms?

It could be translated that way. In this case, it's "the baths".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on June 24, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Found this super old CO state shield the other day. I don't know that I've seen one that old still up anywhere in the state (and I've been damn near everywhere).

(https://i.postimg.cc/1XpDVggW/Old-CO-Shield.png)

Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5950525,-104.8190849,3a,75y,300.03h,85.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOV8kzkRb5zq-M8flakInSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on June 24, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on June 24, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on June 24, 2022, 09:03:39 AM
Unless my Spanish is way off, doesn't that sign say it's 20 miles to the bathrooms?

It could be translated that way. In this case, it's "the baths".

Happens to be the name of the town, but given the barren nature of I-5 along this stretch, it may literally be your first opportunity to use the bathroom.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 24, 2022, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on June 24, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Found this super old CO state shield the other day. I don't know that I've seen one that old still up anywhere in the state (and I've been damn near everywhere).

(https://i.postimg.cc/1XpDVggW/Old-CO-Shield.png)

Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5950525,-104.8190849,3a,75y,300.03h,85.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOV8kzkRb5zq-M8flakInSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Meh, it's the current design...Unless there is a really old installation sticker on it, there's nothing spectacular about it that I can see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 24, 2022, 08:17:26 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on June 24, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Found this super old CO state shield the other day. I don't know that I've seen one that old still up anywhere in the state (and I've been damn near everywhere).

(https://i.postimg.cc/1XpDVggW/Old-CO-Shield.png)

Location (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5950525,-104.8190849,3a,75y,300.03h,85.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOV8kzkRb5zq-M8flakInSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Quote from: thenetwork on June 24, 2022, 07:39:24 PM
Meh, it's the current design...Unless there is a really old installation sticker on it, there's nothing spectacular about it that I can see.

Isn't it the font that is the issue here?  Here's the current CDOT font (courtesy of our friends at AARoads sign gallery):
(https://www.aaroads.com/co/083/co-083_sb_at_co-088_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 24, 2022, 08:56:47 PM
^^No yellow circle inside the 'C"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 25, 2022, 08:50:00 AM
Typical GDOT, but circumventing the Cuthbert Square, it can be hard to comprehend.


Plus the TO inside the GA 216 shield is rather unique.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52167800187_4ddbd61cd0_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on June 25, 2022, 11:10:21 AM
Quote from: Big John on June 24, 2022, 08:56:47 PM
^^No yellow circle inside the 'C"?

On a lot of the Colorado shields, the yellow circle is usually the first color to fade on the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on June 25, 2022, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on June 24, 2022, 08:17:26 PM
Isn't it the font that is the issue here?  Here's the current CDOT font (courtesy of our friends at AARoads sign gallery):
(https://www.aaroads.com/co/083/co-083_sb_at_co-088_01.jpg)
Yep, old font and different color blue on the top. I remember these a lot when I moved here in 1992.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 29, 2022, 10:43:56 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/A3xVTF6LiAeEhi8Y6
Need I say more.


Edit: Yes I can.
https://goo.gl/maps/bPCeTgvocu5eYP74A


NCDOT, although not contradictory, is cheap instead.   Why not replace the guide sign and add US 258 South to it.

Maybe once I-587 takes over and US 264 reverts back to its old alignment we may see the shields here go as I imagine US 258 will revert back to Main Street in Farmville as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 30, 2022, 09:00:40 AM
This advisory speed tab on the EXIT gore sign is a bit unusual. 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52183983536_9406bdf9b7_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 30, 2022, 09:14:17 AM
^^

1. I's supposed to be yellow.

2. The advisory speed does not match the sign to the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on July 01, 2022, 12:29:02 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on June 24, 2022, 09:03:39 AM
Quote from: FredAkbar on June 21, 2022, 01:28:51 AM
Saw a couple of signs coming up I-5 or thereabouts with an odd font on one of the numbers. Here's one of them: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8031443,-120.7413148,3a,75y,352.39h,78.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbJ1tKvQwXDrqnwYdDgQxSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

(Can't remember where the other one was.)
(https://i.imgur.com/MJgvIj8.png)

Unless my Spanish is way off, doesn't that sign say it's 20 miles to the bathrooms?

Indeed it is.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on July 01, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
I mean, the whole sign is in Spanish, so...  It's apparently also 136 miles to receive Holy Communion.

(Pedro Múñoz wrote that, upon arrival to the valley in 1808, officer/explorer Gabriel Moraga compared the air to champagne, and inhaling it to receiving the sacrament.  Thus the river and the valley were originally named "The Most Holy Sacrament of the Body and Blood of Christ", and the city that was later established there was named after the river:  Sacramento.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 03, 2022, 12:58:49 PM
While the English part of this assembly assumes PE 2 doesn't exist with TCH 1 ("TO"), the French part assumes it does ("ET", "and"):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52190771844_f3de0f0688.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nvVmaS)To/Et 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2nvVmaS) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on July 04, 2022, 01:52:20 AM
Weird to see WSDOT making a mistake like this... the letters in "Bothell" on this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.8431651,-122.2596103,3a,15y,222.34h,92.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s80iFBgtKOSLTm4E-VM6KKQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) aren't even close to the same size! I drove by here today, and it looks even worse in person than in Street View. It starts out looking like the standard 3/4 error, but then the h and e seem to be the same size as the capital B.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 04, 2022, 04:37:50 AM
Bot hell.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 04, 2022, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 04, 2022, 04:37:50 AM
Bot hell.

I think the name you're looking for is Twitter.  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 04, 2022, 08:20:12 AM
Portal, a game made by Valve, has a room described as "android hell" (referring to robots, not smartphones). Valve's headquarters is only 8 miles from Bothell.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2022, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 04, 2022, 08:20:12 AM
Portal, a game made by Valve, has a room described as "android hell" (referring to robots, not smartphones). Valve's headquarters is only 8 miles from Bothell.

I'm not much further than Valve's headquarters, and I have never seen heard anyone make that "Bot Hell" joke.

In fact, I've only seen it referenced once before. And it was by Scott:

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 19, 2017, 07:20:58 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 18, 2017, 05:29:08 PM
Bothell

I'm sure that it's incorrect, but, not ever having been to Washington, I can't help but mentally pronounce this as Bot Hell every time I see it somewhere. Where evil robots go to die.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 06, 2022, 09:43:19 AM
Dave Barry posted this today on his blog.  I'm posting the link instead of just a screenshot because some of the comments are pretty good.  Anyone know what this means?

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2163538817154363&set=gm.1790323854508844
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 06, 2022, 10:32:22 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 06, 2022, 09:43:19 AM
Dave Barry posted this today on his blog.  I'm posting the link instead of just a screenshot because some of the comments are pretty good.  Anyone know what this means?

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2163538817154363&set=gm.1790323854508844

I was looking at that sign yesterday and yes the comments were killing me.  I agree that it has to be walk on the sidewalk and not the grass and the penalty is a $100 fine, but there are so many other odd things about that signs.  Why is it two signs in one?  Why the arrow pointing to the lower left?  Why the dashed line?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 06, 2022, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 06, 2022, 09:43:19 AM
Dave Barry posted this today on his blog.  I'm posting the link instead of just a screenshot because some of the comments are pretty good.  Anyone know what this means?

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2163538817154363&set=gm.1790323854508844

There seems to be a $100 fine if a car doesn't yield to a pedestrian. The squirrel is a sticker and is unrelated to the sign. As for why the two signs are fused together, that I don't know.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 06, 2022, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 06, 2022, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 06, 2022, 09:43:19 AM
Dave Barry posted this today on his blog.  I'm posting the link instead of just a screenshot because some of the comments are pretty good.  Anyone know what this means?

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2163538817154363&set=gm.1790323854508844

There seems to be a $100 fine if a car doesn't yield to a pedestrian. The squirrel is a sticker and is unrelated to the sign. As for why the two signs are fused together, that I don't know.

NO, the squirrel is part of it!!  Don't long step strutt past a squirrel below the wooden plank bridge without looking at it, or else you will be punished by  being forced to buy a gavel for 100$. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Declan127 on July 06, 2022, 05:31:05 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5171734,-73.2389588,3a,15y,299.98h,91.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXb_PJXT1fZcwhURQemy4WA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5171734,-73.2389588,3a,15y,299.98h,91.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXb_PJXT1fZcwhURQemy4WA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Certainly never seen any signs like this in NY, let alone in Vermont; I'm assuming the shield on the left is the same as right but is either covered or somehow faded to black.

Edit: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5169923,-73.2327756,3a,15y,227.49h,91.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI2eowjAAWB4CUqKB6Z-31Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5169923,-73.2327756,3a,15y,227.49h,91.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI2eowjAAWB4CUqKB6Z-31Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) This exists a block down and is a bit closer to a NY shield... only a bit
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 09, 2022, 01:53:49 PM
I found this gantry on I-10 (Jubilee Parkway) (https://goo.gl/maps/CyiJr17qwqhBEZcD6) east of Mobile to be interesting.  As many times as I have driven it, I have never noticed it was a backward gantry made to mimic a ground mounted BGS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 19, 2022, 10:52:04 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/tnaaXfrja4nqqHV8A

Those detour signs seem not only odd by using 2 digit width circles but the fact opposite detours end and begin together.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 19, 2022, 11:46:53 AM
Not the oddest setup I have ever seen, but I can't remember personally ever seeing a downward point arrow in Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/UxpM8EQDcbLUXqcbA) before.  This one is a special example being the Bolivar Peninsula landing of the Galveston-Port Bolivar ferry, and is used to delineate which lane to use when exiting the ferry landing area amongst the many ferry waiting lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on July 19, 2022, 12:13:25 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 19, 2022, 11:46:53 AM
Not the oddest setup I have ever seen, but I can't remember personally ever seeing a downward point arrow in Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/UxpM8EQDcbLUXqcbA) before.  This one is a special example being the Bolivar Peninsula landing of the Galveston-Port Bolivar ferry, and is used to delineate which lane to use when exiting the ferry landing area amongst the many ferry waiting lanes.

If you spin the camera view around, there's a red-outlined Speed Limit 7 sign. https://goo.gl/maps/da2NPuB7zoiKLRjg7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 19, 2022, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: DRMan on July 19, 2022, 12:13:25 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 19, 2022, 11:46:53 AM
Not the oddest setup I have ever seen, but I can't remember personally ever seeing a downward point arrow in Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/UxpM8EQDcbLUXqcbA) before.  This one is a special example being the Bolivar Peninsula landing of the Galveston-Port Bolivar ferry, and is used to delineate which lane to use when exiting the ferry landing area amongst the many ferry waiting lanes.

If you spin the camera view around, there's a red-outlined Speed Limit 7 sign. https://goo.gl/maps/da2NPuB7zoiKLRjg7

I was there yesterday and had a conversation with my wife about it.  I have learned from an engineer that odd speed limits (not odd as in even vs. odd, but odd as in not multiples of 5) in areas that need "more attention" are though to be adhered to more because the odd speed stands out. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on July 19, 2022, 04:42:37 PM
It looks like the lady who posted this works in either South Dakota or Nebraska (I saw it as a retweet).

https://twitter.com/weather_katie/status/1549429596004786176
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on July 19, 2022, 05:57:32 PM
I did a rough curve fit on that data, to see what happens at slightly higher temperatures.

(Don't freak out about the high values, these are Fahrenheit, not Celsius :-)

Training:





Air tempAsphalt temp
77125
86135
87143

Predictions:






Air tempAsphalt temp
90211
951236
10012856
105128340
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 19, 2022, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2022, 04:42:37 PM
It looks like the lady who posted this works in either South Dakota or Nebraska (I saw it as a retweet).

Sioux City, IA. Could always click on her bio.  :-P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 20, 2022, 08:17:16 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 19, 2022, 04:42:37 PM
It looks like the lady who posted this works in either South Dakota or Nebraska (I saw it as a retweet).
(Image snip)

That was doing the rounds with some of my pet-owning friends. I have my doubts.

Typically, the rule of thumb is that track (asphalt) temperatures can be up to 10 degrees Centigrade above ambient temps (https://www.google.com/search?q=track+temperature+vs+air+temperature&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS675US675&oq=track+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j0i131i433i512j69i61j69i60j69i61.1979j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8). It depends on the surface, amount of direct sunlight, et cetera. Figure +20°F for maximum effect.

68 degrees (20°C), max surface temp: 86°F
77 degrees (25°C), max surface temp: 95°F
86 degrees (30°C), max surface temp: 104°F
95 degrees (35°C), max surface temp: 113°F
104 degrees (40°C), max surface temp: 122°F

It's hotter, but not "77 to 125 degrees" hot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 20, 2022, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Declan127 on July 06, 2022, 05:31:05 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5171734,-73.2389588,3a,15y,299.98h,91.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXb_PJXT1fZcwhURQemy4WA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5171734,-73.2389588,3a,15y,299.98h,91.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXb_PJXT1fZcwhURQemy4WA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)

Certainly never seen any signs like this in NY, let alone in Vermont; I'm assuming the shield on the left is the same as right but is either covered or somehow faded to black.

Edit: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5169923,-73.2327756,3a,15y,227.49h,91.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI2eowjAAWB4CUqKB6Z-31Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5169923,-73.2327756,3a,15y,227.49h,91.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI2eowjAAWB4CUqKB6Z-31Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) This exists a block down and is a bit closer to a NY shield... only a bit
These are just crazy, especially the first one. OMG how is that even possible? :hmmm:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 22, 2022, 11:38:27 PM
In the ugly category: mismatched numbers thanks to an obvious patch in a construction zone on TCH 16 WB in New Brunswick.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52224067532_1ebd9a3f18.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyRZPs)Maximum 80, NB 16 WB (https://flic.kr/p/2nyRZPs) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 23, 2022, 10:53:40 PM
This isn't really that bad, but it is Kansas, and Kansas hardly ever screws up a sign, so it's kind of shocking.

(https://i.imgur.com/v5roBIm.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
Here's a  Liquor Store Exit Sign  (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.934597,-70.86214,3a,40.240448y,61.8802h,92.75977t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sO4_czROHo2F_oQn_95IvsQ!2e0) in New Hampshire. Also, the GSV car actually went to the Liquor Store. :-D
Three interesting signs in Buffalo, NY. First, a  Keep Left of Median  (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.83914,-78.8573,3a,75.0y,336.24265h,79.44947t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sUea31q3CDpdadPzjULtv2A!2e0)sign near Lake Erie in Lackawanna.
Then here's a Pavement Drop Off  (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.892113,-78.87238,3a,21.35929y,40.73981h,94.73804t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sr37LP694GSsvJim7JwlhDg!2e0) sign, and finally a  "this set of double curves dumps you directly onto the metrorail line"  (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.89256,-78.87224,3a,21.35929y,237.44963h,93.83361t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s50RB8Ijk74LM7OB4jL72wg!2e0) sign, both on Main Street in Downtown Buffalo.
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Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
You cared enough to tell me that. :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 24, 2022, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
You cared enough to tell me that. :bigass:
Still, boasting about post counts or intentionally posting a lot to boost your count is frowned upon in this community.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 24, 2022, 04:54:35 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
You cared enough to tell me that. :bigass:

He doesn't care about your post count; he cares about this forum not being full of talk about post counts.

Best not to dwell on a number that an admin with a mischievous streak can change to whatever they want...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 24, 2022, 05:25:25 PM
Getting back on track... yes, following PE 2 does lead to PE 2.  These were all on PE 2 WB in the roundabout blitz nearing TCH 1 in Charlottetown:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52225065781_f969a0e38b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyX7yD)Follow PE 2 WB to PE 2 - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2nyX7yD) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52225342179_c6685e5b4b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyYwJ8)Follow PE 2 WB to PE 2 - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2nyYwJ8) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52225085178_766ffeb64d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyXdk5)Follow PE 2 WB to PE 2 - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2nyXdk5) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 24, 2022, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
You cared enough to tell me that. :bigass:
Still, boasting about post counts or intentionally posting a lot to boost your count is frowned upon in this community.
I was more just trying to state a fact, rather than boast about my post count. "This is my 100th post" is a fundamentally different statement than "I have 100 posts". You see, it doesn't matter if any of my posts get taken down, my 100th post will always be the 100th thing I put onto this forum. "I have 100 posts" could change if my posts get deleted. I was not boasting, I was more just marking a milestone. 100 posts is a big deal for a new user. I have seen many other users celebrate (or say they forgot to celebrate) milestones. Sorry I didn't know this unwritten rule.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 24, 2022, 05:25:25 PM
Getting back on track... yes, following PE 2 does lead to PE 2.  These were all on PE 2 WB in the roundabout blitz nearing TCH 1 in Charlottetown:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52225065781_f969a0e38b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyX7yD)Follow PE 2 WB to PE 2 - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2nyX7yD) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52225342179_c6685e5b4b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyYwJ8)Follow PE 2 WB to PE 2 - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2nyYwJ8) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52225085178_766ffeb64d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyXdk5)Follow PE 2 WB to PE 2 - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2nyXdk5) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
At first I thought this must be an anomaly caused by a loop or something, but I examined it thoroughly and now I realize that this was probably an error. They wanted to refer to the TCH 1/PE 2 concurrency, but signed it improperly so it looks like PE 2 goes to PE 2. Interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GenExpwy on July 25, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
Donner Camp Picnic Ground (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3758695,-120.1825237,3a,15y,134.36h,85.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snHim_e_fYf_-pVUCmW7Wbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

"Let's eat, Grandpa!"
"Let's eat Grandpa!"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 25, 2022, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on July 25, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
"Let's eat, Grandpa!"
"Let's eat Grandpa!"
I don't get how this relates to the sign, but sure. Commas save lives.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 25, 2022, 09:40:16 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 25, 2022, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on July 25, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
"Let's eat, Grandpa!"
"Let's eat Grandpa!"
I don't get how this relates to the sign, but sure. Commas save lives.  :biggrin:
The Donner Party resorted to cannibalism for the remaining members to survive.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_Party
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 26, 2022, 07:10:24 AM
Here is a cool exit gore sign showing the actual configuration of the  ramp.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52242390561_5e2f6e87b1_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on July 26, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
CalTrans Be Like https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8536225,-117.9416529,0a,100.1y,101.48h,84.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sT8sZct-PU2rbyFvjwiisBA!2e0?source=apiv3
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 26, 2022, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 26, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
CalTrans Be Like https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8536225,-117.9416529,0a,100.1y,101.48h,84.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sT8sZct-PU2rbyFvjwiisBA!2e0?source=apiv3

(For those who don't know whether it's worth clicking the link or not, there is a sign indicating a height limit of 14'09", with a leading zero as shown, where 09 covers up presumably a 10.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on July 26, 2022, 10:37:13 PM
Not the best work by whoever made this, which has been installed on Northampton Rd. at Van Dyke Blvd. in Amsterdam, NY, to alert drivers to the fact that there's no longer a legal left turn onto 30 North at the top of Northampton.  Other than being ugly, the sign is not especially helpful.  Someone really looking to get to 30 South should turn right here, and take Van Dyke to 30, where they'd take a right.  Someone really looking to get to 30 North, should turn left here, continue to the end of Van Dyke, take a right on Golf Course Rd, then a left on 30.  Of course much of the traffic that used to make the dangerous and difficult left onto 30 N at the top of Northampton were going to the shopping centers in between there and Golf Course Rd.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20220726/ugly30.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 26, 2022, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: 1 on July 26, 2022, 09:11:50 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 26, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
CalTrans Be Like https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8536225,-117.9416529,0a,100.1y,101.48h,84.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sT8sZct-PU2rbyFvjwiisBA!2e0?source=apiv3

(For those who don't know whether it's worth clicking the link or not, there is a sign indicating a height limit of 14'09", with a leading zero as shown, where 09 covers up presumably a 10.)

They did it in two places (also has a nice button copy Riverside Fwy CA 91 overhead): https://goo.gl/maps/FhnSEMpX9BPuLuew7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 27, 2022, 10:44:17 AM
Business route ends.  Go away!

(https://i.imgur.com/UCG2kVh.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 27, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
Where is that? Does BR 131 connect back with the mainline, or does it just "die"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 27, 2022, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 27, 2022, 12:16:11 PM
Where is that? Does BR 131 connect back with the mainline, or does it just "die"?

This is the southern terminus of the business loop at the US-131 interchange in Cadillac, MI (exit 177).  The assembly has since been replaced and there is no longer a "local traffic only" plaque.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on July 28, 2022, 06:22:22 PM
Signal ahead but its 30 MPH?
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3941287,-119.0760191,3a,15y,110.04h,90.13t,1.59r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIPX6CFxDPNVhEdnV2jZfUA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on July 30, 2022, 08:18:56 PM
The most odd Signal ahead sign ever https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4416916,-119.15119,3a,15y,285.82h,88.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D13.827374%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 30, 2022, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 30, 2022, 08:18:56 PM
The most odd Signal ahead sign ever https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4416916,-119.15119,3a,15y,285.82h,88.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D13.827374%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

That is definitely odd.  Looking at old GSV images, there was a normal signal ahead sign there in 2012, so I don't know what happened here.

One would guess is that they probably stuck a picture of a signal on a stop ahead sign, but it doesn't appear to be so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 30, 2022, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 30, 2022, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 30, 2022, 08:18:56 PM
The most odd Signal ahead sign ever https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4416916,-119.15119,3a,15y,285.82h,88.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D13.827374%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

That is definitely odd.  Looking at old GSV images, there was a normal signal ahead sign there in 2012, so I don't know what happened here.

One would guess is that they probably stuck a picture of a signal on a stop ahead sign, but it doesn't appear to be so.

Speaking of that sign, that's how Prince Edward Island does it in construction zones.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52214862512_6452908bde.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ny3Pud)Standard temporary traffic light sign, PEI (https://flic.kr/p/2ny3Pud) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 31, 2022, 02:06:07 AM
Wow... those actually might be a new thing that's at least being considered for something more permanent. Is it an experiment? I say this because it's akin to what's been replacing the REDUCE(D) SPEED AHEAD signs for a while now.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xiKzn7ijqz1W58Pq7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on July 31, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
The Rare speed limit sign https://www.google.com/maps/@35.425511,-119.0127377,3a,15y,215.12h,90.3t,358r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sx4jryqs080N2hGiOrphS9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on July 31, 2022, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 31, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
The Rare speed limit sign https://www.google.com/maps/@35.425511,-119.0127377,3a,15y,215.12h,90.3t,358r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sx4jryqs080N2hGiOrphS9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I'm not really sure what you are trying to point out there. Maybe that one sign says SPEED LIMIT and the other sign says MAXIMUM SPEED? That's my best guess, but I wouldn't say either of those signs individually are "rare".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 31, 2022, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 30, 2022, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 30, 2022, 08:18:56 PM
The most odd Signal ahead sign ever https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4416916,-119.15119,3a,15y,285.82h,88.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D13.827374%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

That is definitely odd.  Looking at old GSV images, there was a normal signal ahead sign there in 2012, so I don't know what happened here.

One would guess is that they probably stuck a picture of a signal on a stop ahead sign, but it doesn't appear to be so.

Better question is why they felt the need to put a signal ahead sign there to begin with. There are no sight distance issues and the signal is clearly visible from the point of the sign, so the sign is pretty useless...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 31, 2022, 02:57:06 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 31, 2022, 01:39:23 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 31, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
The Rare speed limit sign https://www.google.com/maps/@35.425511,-119.0127377,3a,15y,215.12h,90.3t,358r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sx4jryqs080N2hGiOrphS9A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
I'm not really sure what you are trying to point out there. Maybe that one sign says SPEED LIMIT and the other sign says MAXIMUM SPEED? That's my best guess, but I wouldn't say either of those signs individually are "rare".

I'm guessing Lukeisroads was meaning to point out the Maximum Speed sign. I think that version used to be more prevalent in California, but seems to be phasing out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on July 31, 2022, 10:37:46 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 31, 2022, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: mrsman on July 30, 2022, 09:49:45 PM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on July 30, 2022, 08:18:56 PM
The most odd Signal ahead sign ever https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4416916,-119.15119,3a,15y,285.82h,88.13t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DphFKvf08VSimNvi1LMdezQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D13.827374%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

That is definitely odd.  Looking at old GSV images, there was a normal signal ahead sign there in 2012, so I don't know what happened here.

One would guess is that they probably stuck a picture of a signal on a stop ahead sign, but it doesn't appear to be so.

Better question is why they felt the need to put a signal ahead sign there to begin with. There are no sight distance issues and the signal is clearly visible from the point of the sign, so the sign is pretty useless...

There are some cities that post the signal ahead whenever a new signal is posted, even if there are no sight issues with regard to the signal.  (And they post the stop ahead sign with every new stop sign.)  At the beginning, it does alert the habitual driver to something new, but certainly at some point the sign is no longer necessary.

Another possibility is when there is a long gap between signals, an extra warning would be helpful.  This isn't a typical city street, 7th Standard is really pretty rural.  Even though not a state highway, I'm sure locals know that it is a straight shot between northern Bakersfield and I-5 and probably gets a good bit of fast traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 01, 2022, 09:35:08 PM
On US 70/380 headed east towards Roswell, New Mexico; you don't just get to Chaves County...

...you get to the Chaves County Line.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52254714477_c90b98d57b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nBz564)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 01, 2022, 09:48:10 PM
Littering sign on the Thruway (Pattersonville Plaza):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52257356663_8f5ef942de_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nBNBvZ)20220731_182201 (https://flic.kr/p/2nBNBvZ)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 01, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Found a couple of these around Ketchikan, AK:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52256375352_eb9a91b5a0_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nBHzNQ)20220714_164512 (https://flic.kr/p/2nBHzNQ)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 01, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
Does that mean only motorized vehicles can park there or the opposite?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on August 02, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
Well,  duh...?  (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.16881,-78.69685,3a,17.788132y,83.29664h,92.91309t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXvsDq0DxDwhnqIQ5oK5Rkg!2e0)
Found in Lockport, NY.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on August 02, 2022, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 01, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
Found a couple of these around Ketchikan, AK:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52256375352_eb9a91b5a0_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nBHzNQ)20220714_164512 (https://flic.kr/p/2nBHzNQ)

I don't think this is what they are trying to mean, but I would read this as "No Parking [of] Non-Motorized Vehicles [on] This Block."  Meaning that motorized vehicles could be parked on that block. Google link to one of these signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on August 03, 2022, 12:41:41 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on August 02, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
Well,  duh...?  (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.16881,-78.69685,3a,17.788132y,83.29664h,92.91309t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXvsDq0DxDwhnqIQ5oK5Rkg!2e0)
Found in Lockport, NY.
Signs such as this are posted all throughout the US.  It is basically telling truckers, "If you do not have a delivery, don't come 'round here on this road".  It is an interesting sign, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hobsini2 on August 04, 2022, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: GenExpwy on July 25, 2022, 09:23:15 AM
Donner Camp Picnic Ground (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3758695,-120.1825237,3a,15y,134.36h,85.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snHim_e_fYf_-pVUCmW7Wbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

"Let's eat, Grandpa!"
"Let's eat Grandpa!"

I was on 89 in that area last week but I was south of 80 so I missed seeing this in person.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 08, 2022, 07:47:27 AM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52248845480_321083225c_k.jpg

I found the Atlanta and 102 to be way too cramped.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52248845480_321083225c_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 09, 2022, 10:07:33 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52226390034/in/dateposted-public/

Found this one to be odd as historical related subjects are supposed to be brown signed and not green.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 09, 2022, 03:45:36 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 09, 2022, 10:07:33 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52226390034/in/dateposted-public/

Found this one to be odd as historical related subjects are supposed to be brown signed and not green.

I think that one is okay.  It is the name of the causeway, and the name just happens to start with the word historical, which would be white writing on a green field. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on August 09, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
Hopewell, Virginia

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2693005,-77.3194286,3a,20.7y,82.7h,87.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svxWUvpapLVQgOnGAfMpOWA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2735634,-77.3158968,3a,15.9y,265.19h,85.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1serm0p65JSHpXpG84lQI3pg!2e0!5s20170601T000000!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on August 09, 2022, 10:18:00 PM
Here's  (https://maps.app.goo.gl/6cCZacZuWoM2RomN8) an interesting sign at a five-way I saw on my road trip today.
The white text is the street names, the red text says "You are here".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 10, 2022, 01:03:10 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on August 09, 2022, 10:18:00 PM
Here's  (https://maps.app.goo.gl/6cCZacZuWoM2RomN8) an interesting sign at a five-way I saw on my road trip today.
The white text is the street names, the red text says "You are here".

Could they have made it any less readable?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: riiga on August 10, 2022, 01:23:53 PM
Interesting way of using a (European) keep right/keep left sign (https://www.google.se/maps/@58.6759243,17.1135688,3a,22.1y,81.07h,82.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDPtqDY6719M_ZhTRHuYrww!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). I'm sure that tiny car is easy for motorists to spot, plus the way it's used (blue circle = mandatory movement) would technically mean that only cars are allowed on that side, not trucks, buses or any other type of motorized vehicle...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 10, 2022, 02:38:25 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
I think this isn't the only case of a sign like this.  Want to say there's one like this in the Quad Cities somewhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hobsini2 on August 11, 2022, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Too cheap for an overhead or a diagram sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 11, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Here's the Michigan version (https://goo.gl/maps/vVz7XwAgPW2HmVfJ6) on the left.  Older signs say "STRAIGHT THRU".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hobsini2 on August 11, 2022, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 11, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Here's the Michigan version (https://goo.gl/maps/vVz7XwAgPW2HmVfJ6) on the left.  Older signs say "STRAIGHT THRU".


Wisconsin does something similar to Michigan when a state or US route gets cosigned for a short distance on the interstate. This is I/US-41 with Wis 167.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2104013,-88.1436532,3a,42.5y,329.23h,86.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM0afthgkyMDD_3JRAU1YmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 11, 2022, 02:56:12 PM
This is a different situation (trumpet interchange at the end of a freeway).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 11, 2022, 04:23:49 PM
I find it kind of strange that the side that merges into eastbound I-40 has its own exit number.  In Kansas, for example, I-235 has no exit number for either the arm that merges with eastbound K-254 (at the North Junction) or the one that merges with southbound I-135 (just north of the Turnpike interchange).

And I suspect the (too-small) upward-pointing arrow on the sign is an artifact of OTA cheaping out and not providing overhead signing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 11, 2022, 07:45:11 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 11, 2022, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 11, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Here's the Michigan version (https://goo.gl/maps/vVz7XwAgPW2HmVfJ6) on the left.  Older signs say "STRAIGHT THRU".


Wisconsin does something similar to Michigan when a state or US route gets cosigned for a short distance on the interstate. This is I/US-41 with Wis 167.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2104013,-88.1436532,3a,42.5y,329.23h,86.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM0afthgkyMDD_3JRAU1YmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Here's a California example. This is I-15 NB at the southern junction with CA 79 in Temecula. They are cosigned for about three miles through town, hence this sign just before the southern exit. It doesn't help the CA 79 people any, though, and cosignage on the shared alignment is (Caltrans-typical) poor. If you go a little bit ahead, there's a "NORTH 79 ahead-arrow" trailblazer, but it's before the onramp carrying CA 79 also.

https://goo.gl/maps/PC8Pc3xWF7Q4QvmeA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 11, 2022, 08:59:41 PM
I liked these pavement markings at the Auke Bay Ferry Terminal (Juneau, AK):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52279974729_7e243a8815_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nDNx5D)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 12, 2022, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 11, 2022, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 11, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Here's the Michigan version (https://goo.gl/maps/vVz7XwAgPW2HmVfJ6) on the left.  Older signs say "STRAIGHT THRU".


Wisconsin does something similar to Michigan when a state or US route gets cosigned for a short distance on the interstate. This is I/US-41 with Wis 167.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2104013,-88.1436532,3a,42.5y,329.23h,86.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM0afthgkyMDD_3JRAU1YmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is an extremely helpful practice and it alerts people that the exit for the other direction is going to be coming up later.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 12, 2022, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 12, 2022, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 11, 2022, 01:12:06 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 11, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 10, 2022, 02:31:31 PM
An odd not-really-an-exit sign. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4886123,-95.169144,3a,23.9y,190.31h,92.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1QpRxrCeqqkjONwE21v8-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Here's the Michigan version (https://goo.gl/maps/vVz7XwAgPW2HmVfJ6) on the left.  Older signs say "STRAIGHT THRU".


Wisconsin does something similar to Michigan when a state or US route gets cosigned for a short distance on the interstate. This is I/US-41 with Wis 167.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2104013,-88.1436532,3a,42.5y,329.23h,86.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM0afthgkyMDD_3JRAU1YmQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

This is an extremely helpful practice and it alerts people that the exit for the other direction is going to be coming up later.

It is really nice, but none of these are similar to what I originally posted, which was after the split at a trumpet interchange. There is no later for anything to come up on in that situation; you have no choice but to proceed onto I-40 east at that point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 13, 2022, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.

New York City seems to use two left turn heads always copying California, Illinois, New Jersey, and I believe Delaware as well.  The rest of New York does not and conforms to the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 13, 2022, 11:55:33 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 13, 2022, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.

New York City seems to use two left turn heads always copying California, Illinois, New Jersey, and I believe Delaware as well.  The rest of New York does not and conforms to the MUTCD.

To be clear, all of these other places that require two signals heads for turning traffic are also conforming to the MUTCD. States that just use one are simply meeting the bare-minimum MUTCD requirements.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 13, 2022, 10:33:30 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.

It looks like the solid green signal is closer to the left-turn stop line than the two left-arrow lights and too many people turned based on the green ball signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Sani on August 14, 2022, 01:02:35 AM
My apologies if either of these have already appeared in this 300-page thread.

The effect isn't as noticeable in this photo, but the Clearview type on this sign is stretched horizontally for some reason: https://goo.gl/maps/otn8tKMWBdiyKkT19

I've noticed a few of these now... "Hey, Bob! We musta screwed up that order for the merge signs. Someone wrote down W4-6 on the order form instead of W4-3. Should we send them back?"

"Nah, Steve, too late for that. We've got these extra posts and bolts, we'll make it work." https://goo.gl/maps/aXs8jD2chuxmXavR6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 14, 2022, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Sani on August 14, 2022, 01:02:35 AM
I've noticed a few of these now... "Hey, Bob! We musta screwed up that order for the merge signs. Someone wrote down W4-6 on the order form instead of W4-3. Should we send them back?"

"Nah, Steve, too late for that. We've got these extra posts and bolts, we'll make it work." https://goo.gl/maps/aXs8jD2chuxmXavR6

In this case, it seems like it's a combination of right sign, wrong location and mounting. Looking upstream in Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/6RjZp6jMbvJTQ9s26) shows the freeway mainline has the proper added lane sign posted. This sign, if oriented correctly, is meant for the on ramp traffic to know they have an added lane, and should be mounted a little further upstream along the on ramp (so as to not be visible from the freeway).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 14, 2022, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 14, 2022, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Sani on August 14, 2022, 01:02:35 AM
I've noticed a few of these now... "Hey, Bob! We musta screwed up that order for the merge signs. Someone wrote down W4-6 on the order form instead of W4-3. Should we send them back?"

"Nah, Steve, too late for that. We've got these extra posts and bolts, we'll make it work." https://goo.gl/maps/aXs8jD2chuxmXavR6

In this case, it seems like it's a combination of right sign, wrong location and mounting. Looking upstream in Street View (https://goo.gl/maps/6RjZp6jMbvJTQ9s26) shows the freeway mainline has the proper added lane sign posted. This sign, if oriented correctly, is meant for the on ramp traffic to know they have an added lane, and should be mounted a little further upstream along the on ramp (so as to not be visible from the freeway).

It could also be an instance of "this is the last sign before they hit Missouri, so who cares?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 16, 2022, 10:26:03 AM
I find this sign both interesting and bizarre. It's a 2-way traffic sign (and another in the opposite direction), but aside from an entrance to a nearby subdivision there isn't any divided stretches of road anywhere near here.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jyBpDzx9sup3NagY7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 16, 2022, 10:32:03 AM
I've seen the two-way traffic sign on roads that were previous one-way but have recently changed or when a one-way segment ends and becomes two-way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on August 16, 2022, 10:52:21 AM
Just a theory, but could the state be using this location for a trial with the two way traffic and lights on for safety unisign? Are there other locations throughout the state where they post them?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 16, 2022, 11:22:21 AM
The only thing I can think of so far is being that this is near a nuclear power station, they wanted to emphasize that this is a standard 2-way road in case something happens and people start panicking when evacuating. But everything around there is the same type of road so IDK.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on August 16, 2022, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: plain on August 16, 2022, 11:22:21 AM
The only thing I can think of so far is being that this is near a nuclear power station, they wanted to emphasize that this is a standard 2-way road in case something happens and people start panicking when evacuating. But everything around there is the same type of road so IDK.

All of SR-652 (Kentucky Springs Road) and VA-208 west of there, along most of US-522 have been upgraded for the movement of hazardous materials.  I think that the zigzag route from Bumpass Road to the Ladysmith exit on I-95 has been partially upgraded as well, but it not as commonly traveled.  I've travelled all of these routes many times, just to check out the scenery around Lake Anna from various angles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 17, 2022, 06:47:25 AM
Quote from: plain on August 16, 2022, 10:26:03 AM
I find this sign both interesting and bizarre. It's a 2-way traffic sign (and another in the opposite direction), but aside from an entrance to a nearby subdivision there isn't any divided stretches of road anywhere near here.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/jyBpDzx9sup3NagY7

This example very close to me (https://goo.gl/maps/TYQV6rtJQHBTu4PW7) was a curiosity at first.  It's always been two way.  But then despite the sign I saw someone drive down the left side of the street.  Maybe there's something about the traffic light mounting that confuses drivers to think it's one-way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 17, 2022, 11:47:16 AM
^^ Panning up to the traffic light, I find this sign, signifying no to a lower dual left: https://goo.gl/maps/xZfPY7PnDtAehEgb6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 17, 2022, 12:38:26 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 17, 2022, 11:47:16 AM
^^ Panning up to the traffic light, I find this sign, signifying no to a lower dual left: https://goo.gl/maps/xZfPY7PnDtAehEgb6

Yes, access to north-westbound 1st is limited to traffic from southbound Bronson Way and southbound Park Ave. This is because traffic from Park Ave has a green at the same time as the left from northbound Bronson Way.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on August 17, 2022, 02:29:35 PM
I found this today:
https://goo.gl/maps/Ay1Jp4JoAHXLH3nX9

That's mighty squooshed if you ask me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on August 18, 2022, 10:27:04 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on August 17, 2022, 02:29:35 PM
I found this today:
https://goo.gl/maps/Ay1Jp4JoAHXLH3nX9

That's mighty squooshed if you ask me.

There is just so much wrong here...

Also, "squooshed"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amtrakprod on August 18, 2022, 10:37:20 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220819/8a4f91cfd49a2a6797b450793e6a98ed.jpg)
Lol at least it's helpful


iPhone
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 19, 2022, 05:52:39 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on August 18, 2022, 10:27:04 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on August 17, 2022, 02:29:35 PM
I found this today:
https://goo.gl/maps/Ay1Jp4JoAHXLH3nX9

That's mighty squooshed if you ask me.

There is just so much wrong here...

Also, "squooshed"?

You know, squarshed. Smooshled.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on August 22, 2022, 09:48:11 PM
No volcanic eruptions allowed near Castle Rock, unless you use Exit 49.

(https://i.imgur.com/NHVPZqe.jpeg)

(Actual context: this is at Exit 49, so drivers would need to re-enter I-5 to reach the correct exit for the Mt St Helens National Volcanic Monument, which uses this icon)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 22, 2022, 10:00:24 PM
Yeah they could've done something different. What a weird sign!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 22, 2022, 10:17:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on August 22, 2022, 09:48:11 PM
No volcanic eruptions allowed near Castle Rock, unless you use Exit 49.

(https://i.imgur.com/NHVPZqe.jpeg)

Dang it, I planned having volcanic eruptions off of exit 36 this weekend!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 23, 2022, 12:27:54 AM
I've been trying to find that thread on the Do Not Enter signs with additional messages, but I still can't find it, so I'm adding my post here.

You won't find a Do Not Enter sign or a Stop sign like this anywhere in the USA;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Unless you drive along Washington Avenue next to the St. Gabriel & St. Joseph Church in New Rochelle, New York.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on August 23, 2022, 04:07:36 AM
Quote from: Big John on August 17, 2022, 11:47:16 AM
^^ Panning up to the traffic light, I find this sign, signifying no to a lower dual left: https://goo.gl/maps/xZfPY7PnDtAehEgb6

See also:

https://goo.gl/maps/gLd5aGvKxCn1Kmrb6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on August 23, 2022, 07:47:07 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 23, 2022, 12:27:54 AM
I've been trying to find that thread on the Do Not Enter signs with additional messages, but I still can't find it, so I'm adding my post here.

You won't find a Do Not Enter sign or a Stop sign like this anywhere in the USA;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Unless you drive along Washington Avenue next to the St. Gabriel & St. Joseph Church in New Rochelle, New York.

The sign on Union is even worse (it's a Do Not Enter sign with text saying that this is the Church Entrance)! https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ru6joDzf9oNA6At69 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ru6joDzf9oNA6At69)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 23, 2022, 08:03:10 AM
I-763 in Philly (down the street from I-694)
(https://i.imgur.com/DPDT0mR.jpg)

I-73 Food Mart & Smoke Shop, on NJ Route 73 (I know we used to have a thread about businesses and route shields in logos but it's prob. pretty old at this point)
(https://i.imgur.com/keIcmnO.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tylert120 on August 23, 2022, 11:19:19 AM
The PA Turnpike exit for PIT Int'l (exit 10) forgot the -h on Pittsburgh  :-/

(https://i.ibb.co/g4F5v1p/IMG-2971.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FHqSsvM)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 23, 2022, 11:32:58 AM
^^ And PTS (Pittsburg KS) is not international.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 23, 2022, 05:30:37 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/DGwfNVdg1G3xXsXv5
The fact that US 29 is signed here despite all US 1 and 50 had all their signs removed throughout the district.  I guess soon US 29 will not be shielded.

Plus I never knew DC to use normal shields before. Always in a dark grey sign with DC- US above the route number.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tsmatt13 on August 23, 2022, 06:38:49 PM
Jersey Shore Premium Outlets in NJ has a "I-66" shield for NJ-66 at one of the exits: try to spot it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2243666,-74.0925709,3a,15y,143.44h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXsdR1bs70GVKQDaaYWVhgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2243666,-74.0925709,3a,15y,143.44h,90.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXsdR1bs70GVKQDaaYWVhgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 23, 2022, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: tylert120 on August 23, 2022, 11:19:19 AM
The PA Turnpike exit for PIT Int'l (exit 10) forgot the -h on Pittsburgh  :-/

(https://i.ibb.co/g4F5v1p/IMG-2971.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FHqSsvM)

Maybe Pittsburg, KS. :bigass: :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 23, 2022, 09:30:55 PM
Norristown, PA trying to steal Philly's street signs:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/US_202_nb_in_Norristown%2C_PA_at_Chestnut_St%2C_Aug_2022.jpg)

You might think it was Center City if not for the Spirit Halloween already set up in late August on the actual Chestnut St.:
(https://i.imgur.com/NDsan0N.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on August 25, 2022, 08:54:33 PM
Does Wyoming actually expect anyone to comprehend this at 80 MPH?  This is not in a turnout, this is on I-80.  August 1, 2022.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/summertrip-20220727-0816/0801/P1070106-800.jpg)

There was a similar one further west.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 26, 2022, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 25, 2022, 08:54:33 PM
Does Wyoming actually expect anyone to comprehend this at 80 MPH?  This is not in a turnout, this is on I-80.  August 1, 2022.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/summertrip-20220727-0816/0801/P1070106-800.jpg)

There was a similar one further west.

There's another one going the other direction on 80, too. Agreed that it is not useful at speed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on August 26, 2022, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 25, 2022, 08:54:33 PM
Does Wyoming actually expect anyone to comprehend this at 80 MPH?  This is not in a turnout, this is on I-80.  August 1, 2022.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/summertrip-20220727-0816/0801/P1070106-800.jpg)

There was a similar one further west.
Wow, that's horrible. It took me a minute to comprehend that sign in a stationary picture. Completely useless at speed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 26, 2022, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on August 26, 2022, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 25, 2022, 08:54:33 PM
Does Wyoming actually expect anyone to comprehend this at 80 MPH?  This is not in a turnout, this is on I-80.  August 1, 2022.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/summertrip-20220727-0816/0801/P1070106-800.jpg)

There was a similar one further west.
Wow, that's horrible. It took me a minute to comprehend that sign in a stationary picture. Completely useless at speed.
*shrug*

Having driven past it, I still think it's a fun oddity.  Wouldn't call it totally useless.  Really, the useless portions are just the text labels.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on August 27, 2022, 10:15:43 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 26, 2022, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on August 26, 2022, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 25, 2022, 08:54:33 PM
Does Wyoming actually expect anyone to comprehend this at 80 MPH?  This is not in a turnout, this is on I-80.  August 1, 2022.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/summertrip-20220727-0816/0801/P1070106-800.jpg)

There was a similar one further west.
Wow, that's horrible. It took me a minute to comprehend that sign in a stationary picture. Completely useless at speed.
*shrug*

Having driven past it, I still think it's a fun oddity.  Wouldn't call it totally useless.  Really, the useless portions are just the text labels.
The problem I have with it is that it's redundant as long as you sign the destinations at each exit. Sure, it's a funny oddity, but it really shouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 27, 2022, 06:00:42 PM
If the destinations are fully signed at each exit, why shouldn't it exist? Maybe it's not necessary to have, but there's no real need to get rid of it. It's not like message loading is a concern in rural Wyoming.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 27, 2022, 09:32:32 PM
If anything, such a sign should be at the rest area west of there... oh wait, there is (https://goo.gl/maps/6Zc8pNCfL7ArgrWx8).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on August 27, 2022, 09:56:53 PM
So far, my experience with Oklahoma signage has been mostly positive so far, subverting my expectations. Except for this poorly laid out sign on US 75 in Durant:
https://goo.gl/maps/EFrRZ5xDu3Nsriq66

Tulsa though is an entirely different animal, it appears. Speed limits were posted on portable VMSs. Visibility of signs at night is garbage at times. Signs mismatching their respective gantries. Stuff like that. On the flip side, however, when ODOT does signs right, I like the way they do them. Something about the borders when done right looks clean IMO. You can see that on the Durant sign. Make it a bit smaller and it would be super aesthetic to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 28, 2022, 03:04:44 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on August 27, 2022, 09:56:53 PM
So far, my experience with Oklahoma signage has been mostly positive so far, subverting my expectations. Except for this poorly laid out sign on US 75 in Durant:
https://goo.gl/maps/EFrRZ5xDu3Nsriq66

The blunt arrow (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=13462.msg2006454) doesn't really make it much better, either.

Quote from: CoreySamson on August 27, 2022, 09:56:53 PM
Tulsa though is an entirely different animal, it appears. Speed limits were posted on portable VMSs. Visibility of signs at night is garbage at times. Signs mismatching their respective gantries. Stuff like that. On the flip side, however, when ODOT does signs right, I like the way they do them. Something about the borders when done right looks clean IMO. You can see that on the Durant sign. Make it a bit smaller and it would be super aesthetic to me.

Interesting that you like the borders, since I've never particularly thought ODOT practice there stood out in any positive way. The double border between the exit tab and the main body of the sign has never been something I've liked, but it's been Oklahoma practice since the button-copy era, and it is something you're used to from Texas.

I just remarked in another thread that Division 8 has been putting out some good product lately, although I'm not sure whether they're actually any better or if they've just gotten lucky lately. But the one consistently true thing about ODOT signage is that you can drive under ten different gantries and see twelve different sign styles.

Now, if you really want to see clean signage, you're only about an hour from Coffeyville. :P
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on August 28, 2022, 08:46:13 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 27, 2022, 06:00:42 PM
If the destinations are fully signed at each exit, why shouldn't it exist? Maybe it's not necessary to have, but there's no real need to get rid of it. It's not like message loading is a concern in rural Wyoming.

I have no problem with it existing.  I like unusual and interesting signs like that (after all, I'm still reading this thread 8 1/2 years and 7500+ posts after it was started).  My observation is that there's too much information there to be useful to anyone if passing by at 80 MPH, especially if you're the driver.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 29, 2022, 12:02:00 AM
Quote from: Jim on August 28, 2022, 08:46:13 AMI have no problem with it existing.  I like unusual and interesting signs like that (after all, I'm still reading this thread 8 1/2 years and 7500+ posts after it was started).  My observation is that there's too much information there to be useful to anyone if passing by at 80 MPH, especially if you're the driver.

I think a photo of this sign (taken under ideal lighting conditions, i.e., on a clear day with the sun shining full on the panel) would be suitable for printing, mounting, framing, and hanging on one's wall as a landscape.  But I do agree it is far too complex and legend-heavy to take in at 80 MPH.

It is in the same general style as Wyoming's hill descent map signs, only with green instead of yellow background.  The area map compares in elaborateness to the one at Burgess Junction where US 14 and US 14A split.  But the hill descent signs are all located at laybys where they can be studied at leisure.  I'm not sure why it was thought a good idea to place this sign (and the several similar ones in the vicinity) facing moving traffic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on August 29, 2022, 02:12:00 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on August 23, 2022, 08:03:10 AM
I-763 in Philly (down the street from I-694)
(https://i.imgur.com/DPDT0mR.jpg)

I-73 Food Mart & Smoke Shop, on NJ Route 73 (I know we used to have a thread about businesses and route shields in logos but it's prob. pretty old at this point)
(https://i.imgur.com/keIcmnO.jpg)
Looks like I-763 was upgraded from US 763 (acorn US shield).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 29, 2022, 10:24:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/9L9Lx49RbY6EfmAR8
Mileage sign and Entering Little Egg Harbor on one assembly.  Interesting that the ENTER sign is larger than the mileage sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tsmatt13 on August 29, 2022, 07:19:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 29, 2022, 10:24:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/9L9Lx49RbY6EfmAR8
Mileage sign and Entering Little Egg Harbor on one assembly.  Interesting that the ENTER sign is larger than the mileage sign.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6017762,-74.3519062,3a,15y,289.15h,84.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0TDdadZKWCtPolR1U2MUEg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6017762,-74.3519062,3a,15y,289.15h,84.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0TDdadZKWCtPolR1U2MUEg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
There also used to be a mile marker on the same assembly as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 29, 2022, 08:00:51 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 23, 2022, 12:27:54 AM
I've been trying to find that thread on the Do Not Enter signs with additional messages, but I still can't find it, so I'm adding my post here.

You won't find a Do Not Enter sign or a Stop sign like this anywhere in the USA;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Unless you drive along Washington Avenue next to the St. Gabriel & St. Joseph Church in New Rochelle, New York.

The Spanish on that sign looks like an incomplete sentence.  Let me explain:

'NO ENTRADA' means 'no entrance'.

'PARA' is the personal command form of the word parar, which means 'to stop'.  However, it isn't the word that's typically used on stop signs in Spanish-speaking countries.  Rather, stop signs typically say either 'ALTO' (the noun form of the Spanish word for 'halt' or 'PARE' (the polite command form of parar).

In addition, the word para in a homonym in Spanish, and the much more common word with that spelling is a preposition meaning 'for'.

Put all of that together, and the sign appears to be saying 'NO ENTRANCE FOR'.

No entrance for what?  Motorized traffic?  Donkey carts?  Spanish speakers?  Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 30, 2022, 01:28:37 PM
Not a native speaker, but I'd probably say "ninguna entrada" for no entrance, or "no es entrada" (although real Spanish do-not-enter signs say "no entre" which is literally "do not enter").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 30, 2022, 03:03:29 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on August 30, 2022, 01:28:37 PM
Not a native speaker, but I'd probably say "ninguna entrada" for no entrance, or "no es entrada" (although real Spanish do-not-enter signs say "no entre" which is literally "do not enter").

"Ninguna entrada" would be more like "Not even a single entrance".

"No es entrada" approaches the grammar of the real-world Mexican sign "Este camino no es de alta velocidad".  (Such nanny signs are now deprecated, but they still exist.  The image below is from the 1986 manual.)

But the main thing is that "para" appears at first glance to be a preposition, not a command.  "No entrada" isn't exactly right, but it gets the meaning across fust fine.  "No entrada para" is nonsense.

(https://i.imgur.com/LdP9XOl.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on August 30, 2022, 06:57:13 PM

Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 23, 2022, 12:27:54 AM
I've been trying to find that thread on the Do Not Enter signs with additional messages, but I still can't find it, so I'm adding my post here.

You won't find a Do Not Enter sign or a Stop sign like this anywhere in the USA;
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9116415,-73.7869083,3a,75y,120.88h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sM1BhcHi6Ivu8XOXt7aXFfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Unless you drive along Washington Avenue next to the St. Gabriel & St. Joseph Church in New Rochelle, New York.

Since the sign is in the US, it seems that they probably just got a dictionary to create the Spanish translation, as opposed to consuliting with someone who actually speaks Spanish or taking a moment to see how Spanish-speaking countries would sign something equivalent.


Quote from: 7/8 on August 23, 2022, 07:47:07 AM
The sign on Union is even worse (it's a Do Not Enter sign with text saying that this is the Church Entrance)! https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ru6joDzf9oNA6At69 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ru6joDzf9oNA6At69)

The church signage completely eviscerates the meaning of the DO NOT ENTER.  Not good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on August 30, 2022, 07:06:23 PM
Quote from: mrsman on August 30, 2022, 06:54:02 PM
Since the sign is in the US, it seems that they probably just got a dictionary to create the Spanish translation, as opposed to consuliting with someone who actually speaks Spanish or taking a moment to see how Spanish-speaking countries would sign something equivalent.

The parking sign shows some basic understanding of Spanish, or at least access to Google Translate.

Estacionamiento privado / Solamente para actividades de la iglesia y la escuela / Estacionamiento durante las noches no está permitido

I mean, I think that's all technically correct.  It just isn't totally natural.  I'd probably do this instead:

Estacionamiento privado / Solo para actividades escolares y de la iglesia / No se permite estacionar de noche

A native Spanish speaker could, I'm sure, do even better than that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tsmatt13 on September 01, 2022, 08:26:02 PM
https://flic.kr/p/2nHXwxh (https://flic.kr/p/2nHXwxh)
Near WTC in Manhattan: Someone made an oopsies on a detour sign and used a "US-9A" shield instead of a NY-9A one.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 01, 2022, 10:05:10 PM
Quote from: tsmatt13 on September 01, 2022, 08:26:02 PM
https://flic.kr/p/2nHXwxh (https://flic.kr/p/2nHXwxh)
Near WTC in Manhattan: Someone made an oopsies on a detour sign and used a "US-9A" shield instead of a NY-9A one.

Obligatory link to the correct thread:
National Boards > General Highway Talk > Traffic Control > US/State mixup shield error signs (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 02, 2022, 01:56:31 PM
I really dislike this exit sign in CA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KYz9tKpDCwQCnnhh8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 02, 2022, 06:54:24 PM
Quote from: plain on September 02, 2022, 01:56:31 PM
I really dislike this exit sign in CA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KYz9tKpDCwQCnnhh8

I'm reading that first half of the panel sign to the tune of do-re-mi, for some reason.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on September 06, 2022, 12:53:40 PM
Quote from: plain on September 02, 2022, 01:56:31 PM
I really dislike this exit sign in CA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KYz9tKpDCwQCnnhh8

Reminds me of the exit sign that used to be in Hayward, CA: "A Street / Downtown".  Always sounded to me like it should be the start of a noir private eye story.  Now the exit (I-880, exit 29) is just "A Street" - just as funny, perhaps, but not as poignant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 06, 2022, 08:35:53 PM
https://twitter.com/TheaLanden/status/1566587966872555520
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 07, 2022, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on September 06, 2022, 08:35:53 PM
(sign I cannot describe)

Umm... well, that's unfortunate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on September 07, 2022, 11:16:59 AM
I enjoyed the double entendre in the tweet itself as well as the issue with the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 07, 2022, 09:04:53 PM
In similar vein...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46939123305_2e35130291_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2evRh2p)

(SH 6 near between Navasota and College Station)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 07, 2022, 09:15:13 PM
So she's a ho and a MILF?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on September 09, 2022, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 07, 2022, 09:15:13 PM
So she's a ho and a MILF?

don't threaten me with a good time
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 10, 2022, 11:28:28 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/HBx8BAxXpWxLFuLK8

This PA Turnpike shield is odd to say the least. Plus the Turnpike here is actually I-95 and not I-276 since the I-95 and PA Turnpike direct connection has been completed that truncated I-276 to another location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on September 10, 2022, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 10, 2022, 11:28:28 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/HBx8BAxXpWxLFuLK8

This PA Turnpike shield is odd to say the least. Plus the Turnpike here is actually I-95 and not I-276 since the I-95 and PA Turnpike direct connection has been completed that truncated I-276 to another location.

To me, the oddest thing about this location is the sign found as you turn around (which, for some reason, I did):
https://goo.gl/maps/QwfZdhTkkiNeyPZWA

Why is there such a MASSIVE sign in a neighborhood road?? That is freeway size!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 11, 2022, 11:41:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/7qdrDFf4Ro1wBSzX8


A public road entrance is  " Private Roadway."
😅😅😅😅😅

Private Entrance would fit the nature of the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 11, 2022, 11:49:52 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 11, 2022, 11:41:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/7qdrDFf4Ro1wBSzX8


A public road entrance is  " Private Roadway."


Private Entrance would fit the nature of the sign.
Either way, neither the entrance nor the roadway are open to the public.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 11, 2022, 01:19:23 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 11, 2022, 11:41:45 AMhttps://goo.gl/maps/7qdrDFf4Ro1wBSzX8

A public road entrance is  " Private Roadway."   😅😅😅😅😅

Private Entrance would fit the nature of the sign.

The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission has a small suite of its own standard signs and "Private Roadway" is one of them.  That is actually a big giveaway that the road beyond the gate (Northeast Extension) is not PennDOT infrastructure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 12, 2022, 10:23:02 AM
Whatever the way the verbiage came about, it's funny.  Not here to say they were wrong about it or to criticize it, but to point out the irony in it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 14, 2022, 08:16:37 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QroYMnYuMsrdPDEK6

The directional arrows are definitely odd here for both interstates.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 15, 2022, 01:01:42 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 14, 2022, 08:16:37 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QroYMnYuMsrdPDEK6

The directional arrows are definitely odd here for both interstates.

Totally unrelated but the intersection just past those signs have another gem: the red up arrow on the PV signal (used for buses here).

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eUHNeRm31HbrpNHJ9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 15, 2022, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: plain on September 15, 2022, 01:01:42 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 14, 2022, 08:16:37 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QroYMnYuMsrdPDEK6

The directional arrows are definitely odd here for both interstates.

Totally unrelated but the intersection just past those signs have another gem: the red up arrow on the PV signal (used for buses here).

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eUHNeRm31HbrpNHJ9

For a signal that supposedly isn't permitted, I sure see red up arrows a lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Michael on September 17, 2022, 09:13:18 PM
I guess this is the best thread to post this unofficial sign I recently saw on Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/x8m15x/oc_spotted_in_midtown_detroit_a_neighborhood_that/):
(https://preview.redd.it/muo6s43cajm91.jpg?width=575&auto=webp&s=bee760967a06dfdd046582d912b40f4f7dc126b5)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 18, 2022, 12:25:12 PM
"TM"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 19, 2022, 02:55:23 PM
The infamous westbound US-30 "Breezewood BGSs" are temporarily black on orange this year due to roadwork.  Photos taken 09/16 on my drive home from Baltimore.

(https://i.imgur.com/FumVwi7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VcbMfw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2022, 07:05:56 PM
Street View of the above: https://goo.gl/maps/xsWfkHnQqcGCvo63A

That is a very cool spot! So strange. Must have been installed by a multi-state contractor who grabbed the wrong blank or something. Then again, this was installed on private property, so maybe it's more appropriate to blame McDonalds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

I mean, it's not wrong. That road does lead to WI 83 eventually...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 19, 2022, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

Would anyone believe me if I said my father did the civil engineering design on the building next to this McDonald's?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 19, 2022, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 19, 2022, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

Would anyone believe me if I said my father did the civil engineering design on the building next to this McDonald's?
Should I?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

I mean, it's not wrong. That road does lead to WI 83 eventually...

I'll keep that in mind the next time (I mean first time) I'm trying to find my way to WI 83.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on September 19, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

I mean, it's not wrong. That road does lead to WI 83 eventually...

I'll keep that in mind the next time (I mean first time) I'm trying to find my way to WI 83.
Edgewood, KY has a similar, albeit less spec, sign coming out of a McDonald's also. https://goo.gl/maps/gryfhXs6ntvVJjM48
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2022, 11:57:10 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 19, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

I mean, it's not wrong. That road does lead to WI 83 eventually...

I'll keep that in mind the next time (I mean first time) I'm trying to find my way to WI 83.
Edgewood, KY has a similar, albeit less spec, sign coming out of a McDonald's also. https://goo.gl/maps/gryfhXs6ntvVJjM48

Well, it's ugly, but it's more spec than a Wisconsin shield in Illinois!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on September 20, 2022, 12:03:39 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 19, 2022, 11:57:10 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 19, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

I mean, it's not wrong. That road does lead to WI 83 eventually...

I'll keep that in mind the next time (I mean first time) I'm trying to find my way to WI 83.
Edgewood, KY has a similar, albeit less spec, sign coming out of a McDonald's also. https://goo.gl/maps/gryfhXs6ntvVJjM48

Well, it's ugly, but it's more spec than a Wisconsin shield in Illinois!
I did not realize that this GSV was in Illinois--did not read the second sentence carefully enough, oops.  :coffee:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 20, 2022, 08:35:43 AM
Quote from: Rothman on September 19, 2022, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 19, 2022, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

Would anyone believe me if I said my father did the civil engineering design on the building next to this McDonald's?
Should I?

Yes. He actually did. (It's just a fun fact, he had nothing to do with this sign I'm almost certain)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 21, 2022, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 20, 2022, 12:03:39 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 19, 2022, 11:57:10 PM
Quote from: amroad17 on September 19, 2022, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 19, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: lstone19 on September 19, 2022, 06:28:01 PM
Wish I could say I was on a road trip to Wisconsin. Unfortunately, this gem was found in Burr Ridge, IL.

(https://www.stonejongleux.com/IMG_7292.jpeg)

I mean, it's not wrong. That road does lead to WI 83 eventually...

I'll keep that in mind the next time (I mean first time) I'm trying to find my way to WI 83.
Edgewood, KY has a similar, albeit less spec, sign coming out of a McDonald's also. https://goo.gl/maps/gryfhXs6ntvVJjM48

Well, it's ugly, but it's more spec than a Wisconsin shield in Illinois!
I did not realize that this GSV was in Illinois--did not read the second sentence carefully enough, oops.  :coffee:

I had to look it up...nope, not even close to Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 23, 2022, 05:12:24 PM
Horses 10: https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/local/horses-10-speed-limit-signs-going-up-in-germantown-as-nod-to-history/522-cc37c6c1-3ecf-4062-b05c-5d8acdbde0d4
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 23, 2022, 06:01:07 PM
If only they actually used Highway Gothic for those signs instead of Arial. They would've been cooler. </nitpitck>
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 23, 2022, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: Big John on September 23, 2022, 05:12:24 PM
Horses 10: https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/local/horses-10-speed-limit-signs-going-up-in-germantown-as-nod-to-history/522-cc37c6c1-3ecf-4062-b05c-5d8acdbde0d4

Forgot about that one.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51972356246_b42bffe973_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nbBUPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on September 23, 2022, 09:31:52 PM
Found this gross sign on US 64 in Tulsa...
https://goo.gl/maps/UUukfqP3o4FJQD6w8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 23, 2022, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on September 23, 2022, 09:31:52 PM
Found this gross sign on US 64 in Tulsa...
https://goo.gl/maps/UUukfqP3o4FJQD6w8

How does it feel to find your first ODOT Special™ in the wild?

In addition to having Helvetica in three different horizontal stretch levels, the S in ST is upside down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 24, 2022, 10:00:12 AM
This one on US-41 north on Skokie Valley Rd definitely has some issues.
https://goo.gl/maps/aua7CLgRwXf7Vt3t6

The worst part is that the old sign was actually looked good. And now we have this mess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 24, 2022, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 24, 2022, 10:00:12 AM
This one on US-41 north on Skokie Valley Rd definitely has some issues.
https://goo.gl/maps/aua7CLgRwXf7Vt3t6

The worst part is that the old sign was actually looked good. And now we have this mess.

That's just as bad as the usual Oklahoma specials. Is this an IDiOT job?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: swake on September 24, 2022, 06:13:48 PM
Nothing can ever be as bad as this on US-169 in Tulsa.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0249013,-95.872864,3a,23.7y,103.26h,108.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0CJro2KR0pYDN0hQgd0o5Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on September 24, 2022, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 24, 2022, 10:00:12 AM
This one on US-41 north on Skokie Valley Rd definitely has some issues.
https://goo.gl/maps/aua7CLgRwXf7Vt3t6

The worst part is that the old sign was actually looked good. And now we have this mess.

That sign looks like it might have been commissioned by the HOA of the housing development or something. The previous sign did pretty much meet MUTCD specs; that's a monstrosity. It boggles my mind how anyone designing or ordering a sign replacement can't look at the previous sign and use that as a guide. Where else in Chicagoland would you see the word "Exit" in mixed case like that after the destination.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on September 24, 2022, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: swake on September 24, 2022, 06:13:48 PM
Nothing can ever be as bad as this on US-169 in Tulsa.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0249013,-95.872864,3a,23.7y,103.26h,108.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0CJro2KR0pYDN0hQgd0o5Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Could they have crammed any more information on that sign? Also I love how over half of the letters are improperly placed and/or sized.

And what is that font? Looks like someone tried to combine Clearview with Arial.

That belongs in the Worst of Road Signs. It takes considerable effort to make a sign that bad. That's worse than the average ODOT special for sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 24, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
It's just Clearview with all of the letter spacing removed.

Oklahoma City has a similar one (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4664224,-97.5000768,3a,17.1y,332.25h,102.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D136.76955%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192), though it's not quite as bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on September 25, 2022, 07:41:53 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 24, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
It's just Clearview with all of the letter spacing removed.

Oklahoma City has a similar one (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4664224,-97.5000768,3a,17.1y,332.25h,102.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D136.76955%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192), though it's not quite as bad.
CraIg cOuNtY may no longer be with us, but it's spirit clearly lives on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on September 25, 2022, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 24, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
It's just Clearview with all of the letter spacing removed.

Oklahoma City has a similar one (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4664224,-97.5000768,3a,17.1y,332.25h,102.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D136.76955%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192), though it's not quite as bad.
Totally unrelated, but pan down just a bit. Is that a sign warning of an over 20- foot clearance?! Now that is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 25, 2022, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on September 25, 2022, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 24, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
It's just Clearview with all of the letter spacing removed.

Oklahoma City has a similar one (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4664224,-97.5000768,3a,17.1y,332.25h,102.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D136.76955%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192), though it's not quite as bad.
Totally unrelated, but pan down just a bit. Is that a sign warning of an over 20- foot clearance?! Now that is unnecessary.
16' is the standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cjk374 on September 25, 2022, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: swake on September 24, 2022, 06:13:48 PM
Nothing can ever be as bad as this on US-169 in Tulsa.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0249013,-95.872864,3a,23.7y,103.26h,108.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0CJro2KR0pYDN0hQgd0o5Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

For some reason that particular clearview font reminds me of the sArCaSm FoNt you see in reddit posts & other places.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 25, 2022, 11:56:36 AM
Quote from: machias on September 24, 2022, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 24, 2022, 10:00:12 AM
This one on US-41 north on Skokie Valley Rd definitely has some issues.
https://goo.gl/maps/aua7CLgRwXf7Vt3t6

The worst part is that the old sign was actually looked good. And now we have this mess.

That sign looks like it might have been commissioned by the HOA of the housing development or something. The previous sign did pretty much meet MUTCD specs; that's a monstrosity. It boggles my mind how anyone designing or ordering a sign replacement can't look at the previous sign and use that as a guide. Where else in Chicagoland would you see the word "Exit" in mixed case like that after the destination.

I can assure you that that sign was almost certainly created by IDOT. I've seen that arrow used on a few exit gore signs in the area lately. The HOA of that neighborhood wouldn't have cared enough to update the old sign.

US-41 is home to several poor signs, some have been replaced, though some new ones have been added as well.

Here's an example of what most of the signs there looked like. (https://goo.gl/maps/5nyyUKL7QLAEv4zcA) I'm not saying it's the worst thing ever, but obviously it's not great either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CardInLex on September 26, 2022, 03:22:41 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 25, 2022, 07:41:53 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 24, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
It's just Clearview with all of the letter spacing removed.

Oklahoma City has a similar one (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4664224,-97.5000768,3a,17.1y,332.25h,102.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtnWZu7iLKAnTxoDuxnYwiQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D136.76955%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192), though it's not quite as bad.
CraIg cOuNtY may no longer be with us, but it's spirit clearly lives on.

Kentucky's very own version of CraIg cOuNtY still exists after 5 years. "EXpreSSway"  https://maps.app.goo.gl/WE1MKPDFmmgVkDvp8?g_st=ic
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on September 26, 2022, 09:15:54 PM
Weird entrance and exit signs at a defunct strip club in the stupidly-small (even for NJ) borough of Victory Gardens:

(https://i.imgur.com/moe9gE8.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 27, 2022, 02:23:52 AM
Yep.... that's my Jersey alright  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 27, 2022, 02:20:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52384686477
This one with the directional banner for EAST different from the WEST on this roundabout diagram.

Also, the whole sign itself looks like it seen better days.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on September 27, 2022, 04:51:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 27, 2022, 02:20:56 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52384686477
This one with the directional banner for EAST different from the WEST on this roundabout diagram.

Also, the whole sign itself looks like it seen better days.

Oh, that one looks lovely, definitely qualifies for the Damaged Signs thread. I'm surprised it hasn't been replaced given it's using the old SC shield design.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 05, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL AHEAD (https://goo.gl/maps/6Nsnqu2jFJfhr98DA) in black-on-white regulatory signage.

I've never seen another one like it.

Well, I mean, you know, except for elsewhere at the same intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/GpV8PkFAxA71Xqr98).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 06, 2022, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 05, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL AHEAD (https://goo.gl/maps/6Nsnqu2jFJfhr98DA) in black-on-white regulatory signage.

I've never seen another one like it.

Well, I mean, you know, except for elsewhere at the same intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/GpV8PkFAxA71Xqr98).

To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to know it was a right turn signal because it doesn't really look like one...

Why not use an arrow display? It could be FYA at all times except when the crosswalk is active--and you'd eliminate the need for two signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 06, 2022, 12:58:05 PM
To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to know it was a right turn signal because it doesn't really look like one...

Why not use an arrow display? It could be FYA at all times except when the crosswalk is active--and you'd eliminate the need for two signs.

The green aspect is indeed an arrow:  https://goo.gl/maps/BWPuhuwjFuMNgTG66

I assume that the advance sign's existence has something to do with the fact that the right turn prohibition is only in force two half-hour periods.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: UCFKnights on October 06, 2022, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 05, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL AHEAD (https://goo.gl/maps/6Nsnqu2jFJfhr98DA) in black-on-white regulatory signage.

I've never seen another one like it.

Well, I mean, you know, except for elsewhere at the same intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/GpV8PkFAxA71Xqr98).
The placement of the keep right of median sign is also wrong.... by a lot https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6941338,-97.4627673,3a,75y,196.84h,67.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6tZpoJ9RvahgiuwCA8PYOA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 06, 2022, 03:23:07 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 05, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL AHEAD (https://goo.gl/maps/6Nsnqu2jFJfhr98DA) in black-on-white regulatory signage.

I've never seen another one like it.

Well, I mean, you know, except for elsewhere at the same intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/GpV8PkFAxA71Xqr98).

The placement of the keep right of median sign is also wrong.... by a lot https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6941338,-97.4627673,3a,75y,196.84h,67.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6tZpoJ9RvahgiuwCA8PYOA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks correct to me.  Before that point, the median is traversable;  after that point, it isn't.

Another example in town:  https://goo.gl/maps/jJM41Fec2Q3yeEjp9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on October 06, 2022, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: UCFKnights on October 06, 2022, 03:23:07 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 05, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL AHEAD (https://goo.gl/maps/6Nsnqu2jFJfhr98DA) in black-on-white regulatory signage.

I've never seen another one like it.

Well, I mean, you know, except for elsewhere at the same intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/GpV8PkFAxA71Xqr98).

The placement of the keep right of median sign is also wrong.... by a lot https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6941338,-97.4627673,3a,75y,196.84h,67.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6tZpoJ9RvahgiuwCA8PYOA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks correct to me.  Before that point, the median is traversable;  after that point, it isn't.

Another example in town:  https://goo.gl/maps/jJM41Fec2Q3yeEjp9


I can't traverse it in my car.   :-(
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on October 06, 2022, 04:51:27 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 03:45:08 PM

Quote from: UCFKnights on October 06, 2022, 03:23:07 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 05, 2022, 01:59:55 PM
RIGHT TURN SIGNAL AHEAD (https://goo.gl/maps/6Nsnqu2jFJfhr98DA) in black-on-white regulatory signage.

I've never seen another one like it.

Well, I mean, you know, except for elsewhere at the same intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/GpV8PkFAxA71Xqr98).

The placement of the keep right of median sign is also wrong.... by a lot https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6941338,-97.4627673,3a,75y,196.84h,67.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6tZpoJ9RvahgiuwCA8PYOA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks correct to me.  Before that point, the median is traversable;  after that point, it isn't.

Another example in town:  https://goo.gl/maps/jJM41Fec2Q3yeEjp9

I can't traverse it in my car.   :-(

Seriously?  It's no different than pulling into a driveway (https://goo.gl/maps/bo3no6f49A1YJEHQ7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 06, 2022, 08:59:53 PM
From the street view, my instinct would be that I could get over it in my car, but it sure isn't intended that I do so, and I should find a different way around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2022, 08:59:53 PM
From the street view, my instinct would be that I could get over it in my car, but it sure isn't intended that I do so, and I should find a different way around.

If it were intended that I not do so, then it would have been built with full curbs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 07, 2022, 12:15:55 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51421398789/in/album-72157719513492163/
Interesting, but not uncommon, for an old route to still be signed along its former alignment like here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 07, 2022, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2022, 08:59:53 PMFrom the street view, my instinct would be that I could get over it in my car, but it sure isn't intended that I do so, and I should find a different way around.

If it were intended that I not do so, then it would have been built with full curbs.

I have a fair amount of experience with these rolled curbs (one of my grandmothers used to live in the subdivision southeast of Central and Maize).  They are indeed easily traversable in a car with normal ground clearance.  The type of car that might struggle with them would also have problems with ordinary driveways with a narrower-than-usual angle between the ramp and the gutter pan--and, to be fair, there are older neighborhoods in the city for which this is an issue with regular production models that have very low bumper skirts.

This said, I am not aware of any recent street redevelopment projects that have used segments of low raised median with rolled curbs.  As the city has sharpened its focus on access management, it has become more common for islands with full curbs to be used to force RIRO at driveways that are considered too close to major signal installations (example (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6941283,-97.4456821,3a,75y,56.94h,82.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szGGAeOv4MaQ7c1F6vO_nBA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 07, 2022, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 10:31:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2022, 08:59:53 PM
From the street view, my instinct would be that I could get over it in my car, but it sure isn't intended that I do so, and I should find a different way around.

If it were intended that I not do so, then it would have been built with full curbs.

I feel like you could use that logic to exploit a lot of things. Like driving over truck aprons or through shoulders.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 07, 2022, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2022, 01:32:30 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 10:31:56 PM

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2022, 08:59:53 PM
From the street view, my instinct would be that I could get over it in my car, but it sure isn't intended that I do so, and I should find a different way around.

If it were intended that I not do so, then it would have been built with full curbs.

I feel like you could use that logic to exploit a lot of things. Like driving over truck aprons or through shoulders.

I don't see it as exploiting anything.  They could have installed a full curb-height median but chose not to.  This indicates to me that they wanted to discourage but not prevent turning across the area–equivalent to using a single solid white line instead of a double to discourage but not prohibit changing lanes.

And I'm definitely not the only one.  Just look at all the tire tracks from cars turning left into Planet Sub (https://goo.gl/maps/CmHs4WRhxBF3RAwV7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 07, 2022, 04:42:19 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/oRPyznnDX7z8vvj5A
The abbreviation for Harrisburg on the left guide panel is quite unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on October 07, 2022, 05:37:51 PM
I like this map sign of the carpool lots on the 400 between Bond Head and Barrie, ON (this one is the lot at CR 88):
(https://i.imgur.com/fUC9u8el.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 08, 2022, 11:53:16 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QTSUy59SGqmFo1tB6

The way this sign is moored is interesting. I've seen light poles used to support signs, and have seen the usual sign supports, but never both.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 09, 2022, 12:47:16 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 08, 2022, 11:53:16 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QTSUy59SGqmFo1tB6

The way this sign is moored is interesting. I've seen light poles used to support signs, and have seen the usual sign supports, but never both.

Speaking of signs hanging over walkways...

https://goo.gl/maps/jejZA7tXsnHybipr9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 09, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
Jamestown NY, where you need a calendar, a clock, and maybe also a slide rule to figure out where to park.

(https://i.imgur.com/Cml9vsE.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 09, 2022, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 09, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
Jamestown NY, where you need a calendar, a clock, and maybe also a slide rule to figure out where to park.

(https://i.imgur.com/Cml9vsE.jpg)

Why not allow parking on just one side of the street all the time and remove the need to interpret a calendar? Seems like a money grab for parking enforcement...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 09, 2022, 05:42:14 PM
I think it's one of those municipalities where they're so obsessed with street sweeping they make people constantly rearrange their cars so they can get the sweeper through.

Here they just don't sweep the street so nobody has to move their cars.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 09, 2022, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 09, 2022, 05:42:14 PMI think it's one of those municipalities where they're so obsessed with street sweeping they make people constantly rearrange their cars so they can get the sweeper through.

Here they just don't sweep the street so nobody has to move their cars.

I think part of the motivation is to discourage people from owning more cars than they can comfortably park off the street.  Other cities do this by having a time limit for parking (in Wichita, I think it is either 48 or 72 hours) and ticketing apparent overstayers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 09, 2022, 06:46:43 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 09, 2022, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 09, 2022, 05:42:14 PMI think it's one of those municipalities where they're so obsessed with street sweeping they make people constantly rearrange their cars so they can get the sweeper through.

Here they just don't sweep the street so nobody has to move their cars.

I think part of the motivation is to discourage people from owning more cars than they can comfortably park off the street.  Other cities do this by having a time limit for parking (in Wichita, I think it is either 48 or 72 hours) and ticketing apparent overstayers.

This seems like it would be an undue burden if someone were in a position where they could not park on the property itself (due to, say, only having a one-car garage and owning two cars, or the garage being inoperable for some reason or another) and also worked from home or else was in some circumstance where there was no need to leave the property for 72 hours. (I work from home and can generally get away with only leaving the house 3 days a week, if I really want to minimize the amount of time I spend away.) Or if someone was simply visiting from out of town for a week or so and the hosts took up the mantle of driving the visitors around town.

I would also be worried that measures taken to technically comply with the law (like, say, driving around the block every other day or so) would go unnoticed by the parking authorities, and so a ticket would be written despite the subject car vacating the spot in the preceding 72 hours.

Here, there are no such restrictions, and street parking on residential streets can be used indefinitely, which is feasible since most of the housing stock in town was built after attached garages became standard. Arterials have No Parking Any Time restrictions in place, so parking is not usually an impediment to serious traffic flow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on October 09, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 09, 2022, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 09, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
Jamestown NY, where you need a calendar, a clock, and maybe also a slide rule to figure out where to park.

(https://i.imgur.com/Cml9vsE.jpg)

Why not allow parking on just one side of the street all the time and remove the need to interpret a calendar? Seems like a money grab for parking enforcement...
We get a lot of lake-effect snow here and the purpose of alternating the side you park on every day is so the snowplow can get the whole street plowed.

The switching is pretty pointless in the summer though,  at least it's just every month. And the way the sign is put together is a bit strange, I will say.

I really didn't expect to see a sign about 40 minutes away from where I live on here!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 09, 2022, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 09, 2022, 06:46:43 PMThis seems like it would be an undue burden if someone were in a position where they could not park on the property itself (due to, say, only having a one-car garage and owning two cars, or the garage being inoperable for some reason or another) and also worked from home or else was in some circumstance where there was no need to leave the property for 72 hours. (I work from home and can generally get away with only leaving the house 3 days a week, if I really want to minimize the amount of time I spend away.) Or if someone was simply visiting from out of town for a week or so and the hosts took up the mantle of driving the visitors around town.

It is a burden, but it is tolerated in the interests of nuisance control.  The concern is not visitors or commuter vehicles that are parked in the same spot every night so much as it is abandoned cars, broken-down vehicles, RVs not moved for months on end, stock for a gypsy car dealership/car flipper, etc.

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 09, 2022, 06:46:43 PMI would also be worried that measures taken to technically comply with the law (like, say, driving around the block every other day or so) would go unnoticed by the parking authorities, and so a ticket would be written despite the subject car vacating the spot in the preceding 72 hours.

Residential streets here typically aren't actively patrolled for parking enforcement.  The time limit exists mainly to give residents the ability to call in a vehicle that has been in one place too long and is making a nuisance of itself.  The police then come out and put a sticker on the car to warn that it will be towed imminently and the onus falls on the owner to sort the situation out one way or another.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on October 10, 2022, 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: kirbykart on October 09, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 09, 2022, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 09, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
Jamestown NY, where you need a calendar, a clock, and maybe also a slide rule to figure out where to park.

(https://i.imgur.com/Cml9vsE.jpg)

Why not allow parking on just one side of the street all the time and remove the need to interpret a calendar? Seems like a money grab for parking enforcement...
We get a lot of lake-effect snow here and the purpose of alternating the side you park on every day is so the snowplow can get the whole street plowed.

The switching is pretty pointless in the summer though,  at least it's just every month. And the way the sign is put together is a bit strange, I will say.

I really didn't expect to see a sign about 40 minutes away from where I live on here!

I lived in Jamestown for a few years and didn't find this overly confusing. The summer months are for street sweeping. What I found more confusing was back then (this was 35 years ago), leaves were piled along the center line of the street, not along the curb. There was nothing on the swap sides sign about that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 10, 2022, 12:21:19 AM
Quote from: kphoger on October 07, 2022, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 07, 2022, 01:32:30 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 06, 2022, 10:31:56 PM

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 06, 2022, 08:59:53 PM
From the street view, my instinct would be that I could get over it in my car, but it sure isn't intended that I do so, and I should find a different way around.

If it were intended that I not do so, then it would have been built with full curbs.

I feel like you could use that logic to exploit a lot of things. Like driving over truck aprons or through shoulders.

I don't see it as exploiting anything.  They could have installed a full curb-height median but chose not to.  This indicates to me that they wanted to discourage but not prevent turning across the area–equivalent to using a single solid white line instead of a double to discourage but not prohibit changing lanes.

And I'm definitely not the only one.  Just look at all the tire tracks from cars turning left into Planet Sub (https://goo.gl/maps/CmHs4WRhxBF3RAwV7).

Of course Kansas would have a road called Maize.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 10, 2022, 12:55:47 AM
Quote from: US 89 on October 10, 2022, 12:21:19 AMOf course Kansas would have a road called Maize.

Not just a road--I'm pretty sure it's called that because it goes to the town of Maize (founded 1886, incorporated 1915).  It also runs through the Maize school district (USD 266), on whose board Nancy Landon Kassebaum Baker was serving--her first stint in elected office at any level--when she was elected to the US Senate in 1978.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 10, 2022, 10:43:53 AM
Spotted this earlier this morning while out for a walk in Arlington, Virginia. This is southbound on George Mason Drive just south of Arlington Hospital.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221010/b767cd13992960927ca98a63d89a6ea0.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 11, 2022, 07:30:18 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/QvQAun4CU9f92avv8
Since when does a yellow LEFT tab need to be used for a freeway entrance ramp departing from the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 11, 2022, 11:46:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 11, 2022, 07:30:18 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/QvQAun4CU9f92avv8
Since when does a yellow LEFT tab need to be used for a freeway entrance ramp departing from the left.

I don't know the exact rules, but it does seem to be overused by some agencies.

Example: Washington State DOT has been installing "LEFT" tabs on every HOV/ETL entrance/exit sign. Even though every movement to/from those lanes would logically be on the left to begin with.

edit: I suppose a Google Maps link would be helpful: https://goo.gl/maps/59qNQF12a692YFps7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on October 12, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 11, 2022, 11:46:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 11, 2022, 07:30:18 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/QvQAun4CU9f92avv8
Since when does a yellow LEFT tab need to be used for a freeway entrance ramp departing from the left.

I don't know the exact rules, but it does seem to be overused by some agencies.

Example: Washington State DOT has been installing "LEFT" tabs on every HOV/ETL entrance/exit sign. Even though every movement to/from those lanes would logically be on the left to begin with.

edit: I suppose a Google Maps link would be helpful: https://goo.gl/maps/59qNQF12a692YFps7

The 2009 MUTCD even pictures on its cover, of all things, that.
(https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/images/cov09r1r2lg.jpg)
I still don't get how every last sign right down to the one with a left-pointing arrow has to have the LEFT plaque, but here we are.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 01:05:18 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on October 12, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
I still don't get how every last sign right down to the one with a left-pointing arrow has to have the LEFT plaque, but here we are.

The General Public is breathtakingly dumb.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 13, 2022, 01:10:22 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 01:05:18 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on October 12, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
I still don't get how every last sign right down to the one with a left-pointing arrow has to have the LEFT plaque, but here we are.

The General Public is breathtakingly dumb.

Hey now. Tenderness is a great track.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/
I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on October 13, 2022, 07:42:24 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 11, 2022, 11:46:48 AM
...

Example: Washington State DOT has been installing "LEFT" tabs on every HOV/ETL entrance/exit sign. Even though every movement to/from those lanes would logically be on the left to begin with.

edit: I suppose a Google Maps link would be helpful: https://goo.gl/maps/59qNQF12a692YFps7

HOV/express entrances don't necessarily have to be on the left. A "basketweave"-style ramp might be on the right; we have several such around here, some of them dating back almost 50 years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/
I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.

Oklahoma does that a lot and it drives me nuts. If there was no junction, it wouldn't be listed on the sign!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 08:25:15 AM
I actually find info besides the shield unnecessary. I would agree with Scott here, the BGS showing the shield implies it will junction. Something like "NORTH" or "SOUTH" is useful if it's a terminus and/or the beginning/end of an implied concurrency. But otherwise, "JUNCTION" just seems like redundant info.

As an aside, I do like that California has simplified markers for BGS, though. Omitting the state name, for example. Do other states do something similar, where they'll drop the state name on their BGS to account for smaller icons? I'm thinking of states like Wyoming that have both the state name and a logo on their shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 08:25:15 AM
I actually find info besides the shield unnecessary. I would agree with Scott here, the BGS showing the shield implies it will junction. Something like "NORTH" or "SOUTH" is useful if it's a terminus and/or the beginning/end of an implied concurrency. But otherwise, "JUNCTION" just seems like redundant info.

As an aside, I do like that California has simplified markers for BGS, though. Omitting the state name, for example. Do other states do something similar, where they'll drop the state name on their BGS to account for smaller icons? I'm thinking of states like Wyoming that have both the state name and a logo on their shields.

Maryland, Nebraska.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 13, 2022, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 08:25:15 AM
As an aside, I do like that California has simplified markers for BGS, though. Omitting the state name, for example. Do other states do something similar, where they'll drop the state name on their BGS to account for smaller icons? I'm thinking of states like Wyoming that have both the state name and a logo on their shields.

Maryland, Nebraska.

Nevada as well. The BGS version of the state route shield removes the rectangular bump-out where the state name is shown. It also uses a more distorted outline of the state shape to better accommodate the larger numbers needed without dramatically increasing shield height to keep the proportions correct–the angled southwestern border is drawn about 30° from horizontal on the BGS shield (where the standard shield it's drawn closer to 45° and much more in proportion), and the BGS version greatly exaggerates the Colorado River notch at the southern tip of the state (standard shields approximate this a bit more closely, especially older shields).

Standard shield, via Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/Q9e9Yac4YDkQXYY6A)
BGS shield, via Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/NCQ4VxmTFmtfv6dB9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 13, 2022, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: roadfro on October 13, 2022, 10:59:58 AM
Nevada as well. The BGS version of the state route shield removes the rectangular bump-out where the state name is shown. It also uses a more distorted outline of the state shape to better accommodate the larger numbers needed without dramatically increasing shield height to keep the proportions correct–the angled southwestern border is drawn about 30° from horizontal on the BGS shield (where the standard shield it's drawn closer to 45° and much more in proportion), and the BGS version greatly exaggerates the Colorado River notch at the southern tip of the state (standard shields approximate this a bit more closely, especially older shields).

Standard shield, via Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/Q9e9Yac4YDkQXYY6A)
BGS shield, via Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/NCQ4VxmTFmtfv6dB9)

The BGS version kind of looks like a speech bubble in that example.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 13, 2022, 12:11:05 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 08:16:56 AM

Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/
I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.

Oklahoma does that a lot and it drives me nuts. If there was no junction, it wouldn't be listed on the sign!

My main beef is actually that it makes "Junction" look like the name of a town.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 13, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 13, 2022, 12:11:05 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 08:16:56 AM

Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/
I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.

Oklahoma does that a lot and it drives me nuts. If there was no junction, it wouldn't be listed on the sign!

My main beef is actually that it makes "Junction" look like the name of a town.

Yeah if they insist on having Junction there then they should've used all capital letters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Junction should really be used for freeway to freeway junctions. It shouldn't be for exits to non freeway routes.

BTW I was being somewhat sarcastic in my OP.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 13, 2022, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 12:19:39 PM
Junction should really be used for freeway to freeway junctions. It shouldn't be for exits to non freeway routes.

Agreed.

Quote from: plain on October 13, 2022, 12:16:45 PM
Yeah if they insist on having Junction there then they should've used all capital letters.

If they're going to use it at all, then they should just use JCT instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 13, 2022, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/
I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.

Yes, CalTrans almost always uses "junction" when state routes meet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 13, 2022, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 08:25:15 AMAs an aside, I do like that California has simplified markers for BGS, though. Omitting the state name, for example. Do other states do something similar, where they'll drop the state name on their BGS to account for smaller icons? I'm thinking of states like Wyoming that have both the state name and a logo on their shields.

Besides California, Maryland, Nebraska, Nevada, and indeed Wyoming (the cowboy doesn't appear on guide-sign shields), there are also New Mexico, Texas (multiple shield series), Louisiana, and Michigan.

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/

I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.

Oklahoma does that a lot and it drives me nuts. If there was no junction, it wouldn't be listed on the sign!

California has historically had different rules for using shields on interchange sequence signs.  Where most states will use a shield 24" high with 13.3" UC/10" LC copy and often isolate it on its own line, Caltrans has traditionally required that the shield be sized so that digit height matches lowercase loop height.  I believe it also used to require that the shield be positioned so that the digits vertically aligned with lowercase letters on the same line that did not have ascenders or descenders.  "Jct" (or any other mixed-case copy, such as a street name) thus functioned as an alignment control.  For purposes of calculating space padding, the shield was also treated as if it were not present, so that a three-line sign without shields would be the same height as a three-line sign with shields.

Nowadays, Caltrans has backed away from these practices somewhat, so recent signing plans have had details for interchange sequence signs with shields isolated on their own lines, and the digits often don't match the height of or align with the lowercase letters in any mixed-case copy used on the same line.

In terms of other states' unusual practices with interchange sequence or mileage signs, I like Nebraska's use of the word "EXIT" next to the shield and a town name to indicate that the distance is to the exit rather than to the town proper (example (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0998943,-96.2424401,3a,16y,104.9h,87.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYgJEYUfOM8-84Gr8XQ0mBw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 13, 2022, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2022, 01:36:12 PM

Quote from: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 08:25:15 AM
As an aside, I do like that California has simplified markers for BGS, though. Omitting the state name, for example. Do other states do something similar, where they'll drop the state name on their BGS to account for smaller icons? I'm thinking of states like Wyoming that have both the state name and a logo on their shields.

Besides California, Maryland, Nebraska, Nevada, and indeed Wyoming (the cowboy doesn't appear on guide-sign shields), there are also New Mexico, Texas (multiple shield series), Louisiana, and Michigan.

I seem to remember you saying once that having different guide-sign and post-mounted shields was deprecated in the MUTCD.  Do I remember correctly?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 13, 2022, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 13, 2022, 01:52:17 PMI seem to remember you saying once that having different guide-sign and post-mounted shields was deprecated in the MUTCD.  Do I remember correctly?

I do remember the MUTCD having language to that effect, but it appears to have been dropped in the current (2009) edition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2022, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 13, 2022, 01:52:17 PMI seem to remember you saying once that having different guide-sign and post-mounted shields was deprecated in the MUTCD.  Do I remember correctly?

I do remember the MUTCD having language to that effect, but it appears to have been dropped in the current (2009) edition.
Oh, is that why Idaho recently switched to a standardized version? I kind of like how they used a white background for BGS and black background for independent mount. I thought it had something to do with white backgrounds offering better visibility on green signs. (As California's "outline shields" were granted an exception when they switched from black to green). Something about positive contrast working better at larger sizes closer to the driver, negative contrast working better at smaller sizes farther away, explaining why black-on-white was seen on BGS but independent shields could be their own thing.

Although I might have just invented all that. Not really sure, but I thought that was the original logic behind why Idaho did that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 13, 2022, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: Quillz on October 13, 2022, 08:25:15 AMAs an aside, I do like that California has simplified markers for BGS, though. Omitting the state name, for example. Do other states do something similar, where they'll drop the state name on their BGS to account for smaller icons? I'm thinking of states like Wyoming that have both the state name and a logo on their shields.

Besides California, Maryland, Nebraska, Nevada, and indeed Wyoming (the cowboy doesn't appear on guide-sign shields), there are also New Mexico, Texas (multiple shield series), Louisiana, and Michigan.

Quote from: Scott5114 on October 13, 2022, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:36 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52419694672/in/dateposted-public/

I like the way Caltrans here uses  " Junction"  on the exit sequence sign here.  Many other mileage signs for next 3 exits just display the shield only.

Oklahoma does that a lot and it drives me nuts. If there was no junction, it wouldn't be listed on the sign!

California has historically had different rules for using shields on interchange sequence signs.  Where most states will use a shield 24" high with 13.3" UC/10" LC copy and often isolate it on its own line, Caltrans has traditionally required that the shield be sized so that digit height matches lowercase loop height.  I believe it also used to require that the shield be positioned so that the digits vertically aligned with lowercase letters on the same line that did not have ascenders or descenders.  "Jct" (or any other mixed-case copy, such as a street name) thus functioned as an alignment control.  For purposes of calculating space padding, the shield was also treated as if it were not present, so that a three-line sign without shields would be the same height as a three-line sign with shields.

Nowadays, Caltrans has backed away from these practices somewhat, so recent signing plans have had details for interchange sequence signs with shields isolated on their own lines, and the digits often don't match the height of or align with the lowercase letters in any mixed-case copy used on the same line.

In terms of other states' unusual practices with interchange sequence or mileage signs, I like Nebraska's use of the word "EXIT" next to the shield and a town name to indicate that the distance is to the exit rather than to the town proper (example (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0998943,-96.2424401,3a,16y,104.9h,87.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYgJEYUfOM8-84Gr8XQ0mBw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Interesting, I didn't know that at all about how they aligned the digits within shields. I'll have to look on the shield gallery and see if I can find an example. I have noticed some interstate shields that seem to have numbers oddly aligned, but now this might explain why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on October 13, 2022, 05:11:40 PM
I just noticed these unique reassurance shields in Lewis County, Washington:

Heading northbound on Interstate 5, the signs return to normal when the concurrency with US Route 12 ends at Exit 88. Heading southbound on Interstate 5, the signs return to normal after Exit 63. However, on the northbound side, the unique signs don't start until the concurrency with US Route 12 begins at Exit 68.

(On a somewhat off-topic side note, at Exit 68, where the US Route 12 concurrency begins (northbound) and ends (southbound), I'm rather intrigued as to why they designed the Interstate 5 entrance ramp for the southbound lanes as a sharp curve instead of being consistent and keeping it straight like the southbound exit ramp and the northbound entrance and exit ramps.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on October 13, 2022, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: Amaury on October 13, 2022, 05:11:40 PM
I just noticed these unique reassurance shields in Lewis County, Washington:

  • https://goo.gl/maps/BbCeSFoNToi6X7wD6
  • https://goo.gl/maps/QzgU7wowXYgjJKEVA
  • https://goo.gl/maps/MzGurjAiyQ5Wi2QT6

Heading northbound on Interstate 5, the signs return to normal when the concurrency with US Route 12 ends at Exit 88. Heading southbound on Interstate 5, the signs return to normal after Exit 63. However, on the northbound side, the unique signs don't start until the concurrency with US Route 12 begins at Exit 68.

(On a somewhat off-topic side note, at Exit 68, where the US Route 12 concurrency begins (northbound) and ends (southbound), I'm rather intrigued as to why they designed the Interstate 5 entrance ramp for the southbound lanes as a sharp curve instead of being consistent and keeping it straight like the southbound exit ramp and the northbound entrance and exit ramps.)

Perhaps as simple as Avery Rd. to I-5 south is a low-traffic ramp so a 180-degree loop would be sufficient, and a landowner for the land SW of Avery and I-5 didn't want to sell?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on October 14, 2022, 11:31:38 AM
Quote from: 7/8 on October 07, 2022, 05:37:51 PM
I like this map sign of the carpool lots on the 400 between Bond Head and Barrie, ON (this one is the lot at CR 88):
--image snipped--

What's the sign under it? No open tin cans?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 14, 2022, 11:34:31 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on October 14, 2022, 11:31:38 AM
What's the sign under it? No open tin cans?

No littering–tin cans or otherwise.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 16, 2022, 08:53:16 AM
A non-typical, slapped together set of signs in southwest Wisconsin. Not sure if there was some utility work going on here or if there was a nasty accident. My bet is on the later. You can see the same kind of signs posted across the road in the background.

(https://i.imgur.com/x9ykq2j.jpg)

I also just noticed the two US-18 shields are of slightly different specs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 16, 2022, 11:04:38 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52425775481/in/dateposted-public/
Interesting that engineers did not yellow out the yellow sign but instead whited out the original cash price for the toll ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 11:25:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52435389837/in/dateposted-public/
A rare back lit sign assembly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on October 18, 2022, 12:00:35 PM
Exit for Wellington Street on ON 85 NB in Kitchener (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.46517,-80.4714793,3a,48.9y,357.93h,100.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOmwSAw7pMmYA_fTTVJz3dQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
1) There's two arrows (which is redundant), an up-right arrow on the sign and a down arrow below the sign
2) The down arrow is white-on-green, instead of black-on-yellow
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 18, 2022, 01:17:49 PM
^^  Ontario is weird with pull-through arrows.  Sometimes they're internal to the sign and sometimes they're external tabs.

(https://i.imgur.com/7zXib7N.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 18, 2022, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 11:25:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52435389837/in/dateposted-public/
A rare back lit sign assembly.

What I would love to see is a pic of the sign (or the one in NY or the ones in WV) at night when it's lit. I've driven past all the NY/WV ones but it's always been during the daytime.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 18, 2022, 07:40:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 11:25:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52435389837/in/dateposted-public/
A rare back lit sign assembly.

There's gotta be a story on this one because it's one of a kind, as far as I know. I've never seen another one like that in California.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 18, 2022, 01:17:49 PM
^^  Ontario is weird with pull-through arrows.  Sometimes they're internal to the sign and sometimes they're external tabs.

(https://i.imgur.com/7zXib7N.jpg)


I'm thinking the two Highway 8 shields are interesting over the arrows.   I know one is a Provincial designation and the other is Regional Highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 18, 2022, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 18, 2022, 07:40:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 11:25:12 AMhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52435389837/in/dateposted-public/

A rare back lit sign assembly.

There's gotta be a story on this one because it's one of a kind, as far as I know. I've never seen another one like that in California.

There is another not far away, at Fifth and Bryant in San Francisco pointing toward the on-ramp for eastbound I-80.  Sadly, it is badly faded.

I-80 East/Bay Bridge/Oakland (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7780009,-122.3999789,3a,26.6y,285.76h,94.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soBpLQa7TnK8vIy7Pe3Y24A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on October 19, 2022, 08:20:02 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 18, 2022, 01:17:49 PM
^^  Ontario is weird with pull-through arrows.  Sometimes they're internal to the sign and sometimes they're external tabs.

(https://i.imgur.com/7zXib7N.jpg)

Interesting that the Highway 8 exit uses the white-on-green arrows. My understanding is that it should be black-on-yellow as an exit, but as my previous example shows, maybe it's a common mistake.

Quote from: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 07:47:16 PM
I'm thinking the two Highway 8 shields are interesting over the arrows.   I know one is a Provincial designation and the other is Regional Highway.

The reason for that is the former provincial highway 8 was routed on King Street, and when the new Highway 8 freeway was built parallel to King Street, the Region re-designated King Street as "Regional Road 8". On one hand, RR8 is helpful as it connects the two separate provincial highway 8 segments between Kitchener and Cambridge. (https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/43.4130294,-80.4033865/43.3469158,-80.2727891/@43.3944766,-80.3455107,12.67z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-80.3464463!2d43.3897764!3s0x882b89e6fe4d3337:0x1bab9bad22b92195!1m0!3e0)* On the other hand, it can be confusing to those who aren't familiar with the different shield types, and therefore not realize which one is the proper "Highway 8" (I remember some relatives getting lost because of this when visiting our new house for the first time).

* Having said this, Google is currently saying it's 2 minutes faster to use the 401 and Franklin Blvd (RR36) instead (https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/43.4130294,-80.4033865/43.3469158,-80.2727891/@43.3999231,-80.3692855,12.75z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-80.3050281!2d43.4001639!3s0x882b88472ec81c63:0x69f91089c09c051!1m0!3e0). Going in to fictional territory, I think it would be awesome if this route was signed as Highway 8 to make it easy to find your way between the two segments.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 19, 2022, 10:20:38 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/yzMdHgZPpP2S9wyV9
I've seen much better Welcome to PA signs.

https://goo.gl/maps/rRFBLhUWKp7XhAj48
Interesting to see the text form of US 206 to be written as Rt. 206.

https://goo.gl/maps/iLTYHwuQZL2DrHRs8
Glad to see the button copies survived into 2019 though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 19, 2022, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: plain on October 18, 2022, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 11:25:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52435389837/in/dateposted-public/
A rare back lit sign assembly.

What I would love to see is a pic of the sign (or the one in NY or the ones in WV) at night when it's lit. I've driven past all the NY/WV ones but it's always been during the daytime.

I drove through the one at Beckley on the WV Turnpike southbound during dark hours once and was disappointed that the sign was not lit up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 20, 2022, 02:03:02 PM
I came across this one in Bennington, VT last month.  I like the specificity.

(https://i.imgur.com/pNI9Y2S.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 22, 2022, 12:58:36 PM
This is interesting.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52444724998_cf5812e6d5_k.jpg)

The gantry used here is sheets of metal over the skeleton.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on October 22, 2022, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 19, 2022, 11:07:55 AM
Quote from: plain on October 18, 2022, 01:18:40 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 18, 2022, 11:25:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52435389837/in/dateposted-public/
A rare back lit sign assembly.

What I would love to see is a pic of the sign (or the one in NY or the ones in WV) at night when it's lit. I've driven past all the NY/WV ones but it's always been during the daytime.

I drove through the one at Beckley on the WV Turnpike southbound during dark hours once and was disappointed that the sign was not lit up.

There were a few random backlit signs at US 30 and OH 696 (to I-75) from 1999 when the new interchange/extension to OH 235 was built, but the last of them was replaced last year, with the one on US 30 itself replaced much earlier (about 2007 iIrc).  Drove through there many times at night over the years; never saw any lit up.  The lighting may have been a casualty of the trend of removing lighting on Ohio signs in general.

The one on US 30 EB for the left-hand OH 696 exit did not say 696 (it showed I-75) and had a pointy cutout shield mounted atop. That backlit sign, replaced in 2007, has been replaced three times since then.  They really got to stop replacing things that don't need replacing--it's a bad look.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 22, 2022, 09:40:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 22, 2022, 12:58:36 PM
The gantry used here is sheets of metal over the skeleton.

Caltrans used that gantry type for at least a couple decades. Not at all unusual, lots of surviving examples in the Bay Area and in San Diego, just to name a couple regions.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 22, 2022, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 22, 2022, 09:40:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 22, 2022, 12:58:36 PMThe gantry used here is sheets of metal over the skeleton.

Caltrans used that gantry type for at least a couple decades. Not at all unusual, lots of surviving examples in the Bay Area and in San Diego, just to name a couple regions.

I think "closed box truss" is the technical term.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on October 23, 2022, 09:10:14 AM
I found an old I-490 shield that says New York on it. This is located on NY-386 (Elmgrove Rd.) in Rochester. NY hasn't installed state named interstate route shields in a very long time.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1739049,-77.7324031,3a,15y,210.13h,92.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCb8JFW_RjbUn-5UX2JtuAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&authuser=0

This stretch of NY-386 is owned and maintained by Monroe County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2022, 10:38:35 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on October 22, 2022, 09:40:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 22, 2022, 12:58:36 PM
The gantry used here is sheets of metal over the skeleton.

Caltrans used that gantry type for at least a couple decades. Not at all unusual, lots of surviving examples in the Bay Area and in San Diego, just to name a couple regions.

There is a couple in Monterey, this one in particular is pretty nice looking I think:

https://flic.kr/p/2nd1y9k
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 24, 2022, 05:26:46 PM
Spotted on SH-97 near Sand Springs...

https://goo.gl/maps/bxGSwfQBaxgQy5SS8

Egads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 24, 2022, 08:10:18 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52451402059/in/dateposted-public/
The MS 607 shield looks typical but at the same time looks not like a shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 24, 2022, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 24, 2022, 05:26:46 PM
Spotted on SH-97 near Sand Springs...

https://goo.gl/maps/bxGSwfQBaxgQy5SS8

Egads.

Oh hell no  X-(
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DrSmith on October 25, 2022, 09:30:59 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 24, 2022, 08:10:18 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52451402059/in/dateposted-public/
The MS 607 shield looks typical but at the same time looks not like a shield.

Beyond that there is an exit tab for "Exit 1" and "Exit 1" mentioned below as if it was an auxiliary sign that then needed a distance so the "Next exit 3 miles" was tacked on beneath or something.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Android on October 25, 2022, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: plain on October 24, 2022, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 24, 2022, 05:26:46 PM
Spotted on SH-97 near Sand Springs...

https://goo.gl/maps/bxGSwfQBaxgQy5SS8

Egads.

Oh hell no  X-(

Yeah, that's ghastly.  I like spotting the rare Series F in the wild, but only when done right.  This is not.   (https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/images/smiles/eusa_wall.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on October 25, 2022, 10:01:07 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on October 24, 2022, 05:26:46 PM
Spotted on SH-97 near Sand Springs...

https://goo.gl/maps/bxGSwfQBaxgQy5SS8

Egads.

It's OkDOT. What did you expect?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 25, 2022, 12:00:09 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52452193199/in/dateposted-public/

I find it interesting that this gantry before 2013 spanned the entire side of the freeway. Prior to 2013, the assembly had a pull through.  I find it amazing that the part that supports this remaining sign can support itself despite the rest removed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on October 26, 2022, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: CoreySamsonSpotted on SH-97 near Sand Springs...

https://goo.gl/maps/bxGSwfQBaxgQy5SS8

Egads.

Given it's Oklahoma, it's almost a miracle that severely stretched lettering was not set in default Arial. So many commercial signs all over the place have squeezy-stretchy default Arial vomit crammed on their sign faces. Disgusting. It's only natural that piss poor standards of practice in the commercial sign space would bleed over into highway signs. I've seen a decent number of other ODOT signs featuring artificially squeezed type (there are several big green abominations in the Lawton area).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 26, 2022, 08:22:02 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/b8jCfkx5X13DbUScA
This sign about passenger cars only is irrelevant.  The road this sign is on prohibits any kind of truck or commercial from driving past the sign.  So it's like preaching to the choir.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 26, 2022, 10:08:31 PM
^^^

That is a yugly US 6 shield, too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Android on October 30, 2022, 01:00:49 AM
Uh, I think that US6 looks fine.  I've personally seen worse. (http://members.trainorders.com/android/misc/US6-SeriesC-WideShield.jpg)   
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 30, 2022, 02:51:21 PM
This is just... blech...

https://goo.gl/maps/bX2KjA1XsRWXxrQy8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on October 30, 2022, 03:52:35 PM
Of course that example of distorted squeezy-stretchy type on a diamond shaped advisory sign would be in Oklahoma. Face-palm. :banghead:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 30, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
New Mexico makes me feel
       better

about Oklahoma's signs.

(https://i.imgur.com/JvIcaYL.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 31, 2022, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 30, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
New Mexico makes me feel
       better

about Oklahoma's signs.

(https://i.imgur.com/JvIcaYL.jpg?1)

Are those two different signs posts as well?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on October 31, 2022, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 31, 2022, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 30, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
New Mexico makes me feel
       better

about Oklahoma's signs.

(https://i.imgur.com/JvIcaYL.jpg?1)

Are those two different signs posts as well?

Sure as hell looks like it
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on October 31, 2022, 11:01:20 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 30, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
New Mexico makes me feel
       better

about Oklahoma's signs.

(https://i.imgur.com/JvIcaYL.jpg?1)

Quote from: JoePCool14 on October 31, 2022, 09:39:12 AM
Are those two different signs posts as well?

Quote from: plain on October 31, 2022, 09:40:29 AM
Sure as hell looks like it

Oooh!  The one on the right looks like an original tubular BGS mast from the 1950s and early 1960s.  There aren't very many remaining.

No dice:  https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0348932,-107.4779322,3a,26y,149.62h,92.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ4xXYDw0bwHS5Lef_uASmg!2e0!5s20220501T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Looks like it's been this way since the 2007 GSV.  So that must be the angle picking up the sign mast and the utility pole behind it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on October 31, 2022, 12:10:42 PM
Thanks for checking. That's why I asked, I thought it looked like it was just the angle of the photo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on November 04, 2022, 08:09:37 PM
Have you ever seen a Do Not Enter sign like this?
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3835721,-119.1403541,3a,15y,199.42h,88.74t,1.04r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLH6r21MT8MPkOJufjBteOQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 04, 2022, 08:12:47 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ELJq1QW2fZSnSmcAA
A bad place for a through mileage sign.

I think NJDOT placed it here, because the route it references here (US 206) merges onto US 202 in where engineers felt it would confuse US 202 motorists if they saw points for US 206.

Another instance one is strangely placed before a concurrency for one route is for US 202 SB at NJ 31.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5033327,-74.8515999,3a,75y,264.15h,96.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sd7KBVebVq4MMa1Yvf13hyA!2e0!5s20190901T000000!7i16384!8i8192


However in the latter they removed the assembly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5033241,-74.8516302,3a,75y,271.27h,97.51t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHVcy-TagZWWopKS5qVPuKA!2e0!5s20220901T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on November 05, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
The City of Auburn Hills, MI has recently decided to replace most if not all of its signs with Trebuchet MS font. These signs look absolutely terrible!
The links below show only a tiny handful of the enormous amount of signs the city replaced using non-compliant MUTCD signs. Check it out...

1. Executive Hills Blvd at Featherstone Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6491093,-83.2441662,3a,17.2y,118.99h,87.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sna_i69vM8OfXdOV-GsfspQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
2. The 25 mph advisory speed warning below this sign... (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6542793,-83.2360002,3a,49y,189.44h,86.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKvZ-J1A_LaBDaBZqjPP_qg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
3. ...as well as below this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6517341,-83.2373027,3a,49.4y,215.64h,86.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp9E0v_l0lIFfM_94YFQl_w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
4. The numerals on this I-75 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6561073,-83.235871,3a,16.4y,34.15h,92.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxtN5-giDhXnYDnBVRQ7b0Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
5. The "Ahead" plaque mounted below this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6372257,-83.2200043,3a,73.9y,14.16h,82.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smAYOYJYxCkrguAiYZJfr0A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
6. Bridge Ices Before Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6414262,-83.2198731,3a,15y,33.94h,90.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa58ev338mXzrs7JlMggHsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
7. Proceed on green light only (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6464246,-83.2197926,3a,15y,150.09h,90.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ9dxQR38rZUbXgytEZ9WSg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DQ9dxQR38rZUbXgytEZ9WSg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D317.994%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
8. Even some of the city's temporary signage has Trebuchet, like this guy... (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6336505,-83.2221429,3a,15y,323.72h,84.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ0SrOvSaWmmnIkcxvpWRzw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
9. ...and this guy (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6359312,-83.2203657,3a,15.5y,217.27h,84.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm6czYLA2PiOeaMT7vf9kEA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
10. Featherstone Road at Squirrel Rd (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6497816,-83.2200483,3a,19y,0.13h,92.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqI0ZyZYgHXge3t5Q66klag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
11. Even the city's street name sign blades have Trebuchet! (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6658327,-83.2194602,3a,15y,48.04h,92.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scKO3cWy9IP1Y0ApKeU_5KA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) This one's an oddity because normally Oakland County maintains these signs, but apparently not!
12. More street name sign blades near Oakland University (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.668295,-83.2199572,3a,15y,37.75h,89.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVNKxrY-kTxmD5FaC0rtrfg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
13. No turns (non-compliant sign on the right). (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6728048,-83.2204482,3a,34.4y,309.61h,86.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sg6GEtcW4qwo5NQ1SuqGHoA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) You can see a compliant MUTCD "No Turns" sign on the left. Yes, even the diagrammatic Michigan Left sign for Squirrel Rd has Trebuchet (shown off to the right)
14. You can see the differences in the font with these two signs. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6781661,-83.2208345,3a,18.1y,346.44h,109.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snFDcWsPkxMgcE1wj06yjeA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) In this situation, the sign mounted on the left side is non-compliant, with the sign on the right being correct. Even the arrows are different. Why did the city only replace one sign here instead of both?
15. This is a mess! (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6785538,-83.2208723,3a,19.9y,17.04h,91.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szxszZVOKum3hDZZLxnV88w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
16. Even bigger mess here! (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6720602,-83.2203299,3a,19.2y,53.35h,90.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-L0AVwNA6_vYz5tnsdg6AA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
17. A guide sign to St. John Fisher Chapel (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6808463,-83.2210713,3a,15y,196.84h,88.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAXjsmbQJSsRdmOjJJxaTeg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
18. Five Points Dr at University Dr. (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6725738,-83.2242424,3a,15y,295.42h,91.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjiSU2YGNAsvStuie6b1f9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
19. Local deliveries only (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6340698,-83.2100586,3a,15y,275.46h,88.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKCx8J67aK2ARRXrB7ccwkg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

If I had more time, I could dig around on Google Maps and show much more non-compliant signage, but you can see that these incorrectly-made signs are EVERYWHERE throughout the city of Auburn Hills. And they are still being installed!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on November 05, 2022, 05:49:52 PM
Found a NY route shield with Helvetica numerals.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1465523,-77.7133801,3a,15y,272.48h,89.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2CAWW9ImlAPz6632SSJJdA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&authuser=0

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on November 05, 2022, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: rellisThe City of Auburn Hills, MI has recently decided to replace most if not all of its signs with Trebuchet MS font. These signs look absolutely terrible!

Yeah, no kidding! Those signs suck!

I wonder who made the call to change typefaces on that town's traffic signs to Trebuchet. And why? Did the culprit think Trebuchet looked a little like Clearview Highway and thus made it good enough to use as a substitute? Or is that just the culprit's favorite typeface?

Trebuchet is a very poor choice for traffic sign use, not because of its aesthetic style, but because there are only 4 basic styles in that type family (Regular, Italic, Bold and Bold-Italic). There are no variations in width like you get with the Series Gothic and Clearview Highway families. Those fonts range from naturally very condensed to partially wide.

The lack of width flexibility in the Trebuchet type family results in these sign abominations. A bunch of the copy is artificially squeezed or stretched to fit on the sign panel. As someone who designs commercial signs for a living, I have a very intense hatred for type that is distorted like that especially when some no-talent hack knee-jerk chooses default Arial and then distorts that type. Man I hate that.

If some city employee is going to improv the type choices on traffic signs in a town I guess it's too much to ask for them to use a more sophisticated approach: like choosing a modern OpenType Variable typeface with variable axis sliders for font weight and width. Google fonts has some of these kinds of variable fonts which can be downloaded for free. You just need graphics software able to use those kinds of fonts. So many people doing sign "design" work can't get past Arial in their font menus.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 05, 2022, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on November 05, 2022, 06:36:04 PM
Did the culprit think Trebuchet looked a little like Clearview Highway and thus made it good enough to use as a substitute?

That was my first thought:  Trebuchet is the poor man's Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 05, 2022, 08:09:53 PM
Does Auburn Hills have a Contact Us form on their website? I think we all need to write them and explain that Trebuchet is actually not an approved font for road signs. Maybe if enough of us write them, they'll realize. As they always say, they can't stop all of us!

Those signs are awful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 05, 2022, 08:49:55 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 05, 2022, 08:09:53 PM
As they always say, they can't stop all of us!

I'm pretty sure they could ignore all of us, though.  Especially considering a large percentage of us don't even live there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 05, 2022, 09:41:48 PM
Quote from: rellis97 on November 05, 2022, 04:53:02 PM
The City of Auburn Hills, MI has recently decided to replace most if not all of its signs with Trebuchet MS font. These signs look absolutely terrible!
The links below show only a tiny handful of the enormous amount of signs the city replaced using non-compliant MUTCD signs. Check it out...

I should hate it because it's a default system font (and one made in house by Microsoft, at that), but Trebuchet MS is kind of a guilty pleasure of mine. (Mostly because it's the font used by Los Alamitos Race Course for their telecasts, and they were the last track to sign on before I got to go home for the night when I worked in an OTB.)

Those ONLY signs could be mistaken for being in LeHay. Almost.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on November 05, 2022, 10:20:38 PM
I don't hate Trebuchet (even if it is a Windows system typeface). I don't think it's an ugly typeface at all. It falls into the "office sans" sub-category of sans-serif typefaces. So does Clearview Highway. ITC Officina Sans is more of the standard-bearer of that style of type. I've used Trebuchet a few times over the years in sign projects. IIRC one of our local hospitals uses Trebuchet on its interior room label signs.

Out of Windows system fonts Arial is another matter. Now that typeface is indeed ugly. It's harsh looking even when the letters are allowed to remain in their normal proportions. When some sign guy applies Arial to type objects in a layout and distorts it that just stinks it up to an even more rotten level. The only nice thing I can say about the current version of Arial bundled in the Windows OS is it has a pretty substantial character set. That's probably because it is such a pervasive default typeface in so many applications. And "Arial" begins with "A" so it's near the top of the font menu. Hardly any scrolling is needed to get to it.

I never ever use Arial by choice in sign project layouts. The only time I will use it is when a customer's branding guidelines specifically require it. Thankfully such cases are very rare.

Oh, I will say that I dislike the versions of Garamond and Franklin Gothic Microsoft bundles into MS Office and Windows too. They suck compared to various alternatives. There is a bunch of different Garamonds out there and the Monotype cut of the one included in Office is my least favorite.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on November 06, 2022, 04:23:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lnEjX6W.jpg)

I saw this in Medford, NJ today. While I don't think it dates back to the 1950s (the side street didn't exist until the 80s) and it's just hilariously faded and unreplaced, I gotta have hope.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 07, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
I think this sign refers to the fact that Bordentown, NJ is a major community for Truck Stops.
https://goo.gl/maps/ZHnVoGeR9Apqc8bj6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 07, 2022, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
I think this sign refers to the fact that Bordentown, NJ is a major community for Truck Stops.
https://goo.gl/maps/ZHnVoGeR9Apqc8bj6

It's directing them to Rising Sun Road, which in turn goes to a bunch of truck stops.

https://goo.gl/maps/T7VL3BXrhAwjCASh8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 07, 2022, 05:10:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 07, 2022, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
I think this sign refers to the fact that Bordentown, NJ is a major community for Truck Stops.
https://goo.gl/maps/ZHnVoGeR9Apqc8bj6

It's directing them to Rising Sun Road, which in turn goes to a bunch of truck stops.

https://goo.gl/maps/T7VL3BXrhAwjCASh8

First time I've ever seen info for trucks stops on a nearby local road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 07, 2022, 06:09:07 PM
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 07, 2022, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
I think this sign refers to the fact that Bordentown, NJ is a major community for Truck Stops.
https://goo.gl/maps/ZHnVoGeR9Apqc8bj6

Those signs are a bit of a mess there. Lots of random elements, fonts, stretched shields, etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 07, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
This one's a bit redundant. Or unnecessary.

(https://i.imgur.com/w0wjn70.jpg)

Photo by me at Rickert Drive and US-34 in Naperville, IL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on November 08, 2022, 12:20:38 AM
A "next truck stop" sign near Cedar City, UT

(https://i.imgur.com/DXCieJX.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 08, 2022, 01:22:36 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 07, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
This one's a bit redundant. Or unnecessary.

(https://i.imgur.com/w0wjn70.jpg)

Photo by me at Rickert Drive and US-34 in Naperville, IL.

I would say unnecessary. The only way I see that sign being justified is if the green arrows are illuminated at the same time the red orbs are (when traffic from US 34 WB have the protected left active) but looking at GSV from a couple years ago, that's not the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on November 08, 2022, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 07, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
This one's a bit redundant. Or unnecessary.

(https://i.imgur.com/w0wjn70.jpg)

Photo by me at Rickert Drive and US-34 in Naperville, IL.

Definitely unnecessary. How do you turn right on red if the light isn't red?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 08, 2022, 10:33:06 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 07, 2022, 06:09:07 PM
Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 07, 2022, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
I think this sign refers to the fact that Bordentown, NJ is a major community for Truck Stops.
https://goo.gl/maps/ZHnVoGeR9Apqc8bj6

Those signs are a bit of a mess there. Lots of random elements, fonts, stretched shields, etc.

Found out in another thread that the Truck Stops signs are for nearby I-295 being the interchange on that freeway with nearby Rising Sun Road is a half diamond interchange from the south.  Truckers can exit at either Exit 52 A or 52 B on I-295 south. If they choose the latter, they then end up at US 130 at the above location.  This atrocious assembly sends truckers back to Bordentown to patronize the truck stops unreachable from I-295 southbound at Exit 56.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on November 08, 2022, 11:56:41 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 07, 2022, 09:26:06 PM
This one's a bit redundant. Or unnecessary.

(https://i.imgur.com/w0wjn70.jpg)

Photo by me at Rickert Drive and US-34 in Naperville, IL.

There's a similar example in Kitchener, ON at the Highway 7/8 WB off-ramp to Fischer-Hallman Rd (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.420605,-80.5156623,3a,20.2y,57.04h,97.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suw_39l-fouBnKdijNU_3cA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). It seems obvious to me that a green arrow overrides a NTOR restriction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 08, 2022, 12:15:33 PM
It might have something to do with the fact that the second lane from the right is also a turn lane, yet it's almost directly facing a "solid ball" signal head.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7591648,-88.1872011,3a,46.2y,335.07h,91.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3rOVv4HluG1yvFyC7FPE8g!2e0!5s20161001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 08, 2022, 09:27:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ixpSfiyXMjcFMqqdA

The diagramical arrow here looks cartoonish and it appears to narrow itself from the base to the head.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 09, 2022, 08:48:44 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 08, 2022, 09:27:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ixpSfiyXMjcFMqqdA

The diagramical arrow here looks cartoonish and it appears to narrow itself from the base to the head.

If classic NJTP designed a diagrammatic, this would be it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 09, 2022, 04:53:28 PM
I've never seen this before. Spotted this earlier this afternoon in Portland, Oregon.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/8ede499a93ff54994179681d46c4e04c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 10, 2022, 08:06:15 AM
The ALT bean ear fell off the US 301 shield making it appear it's the mainline turning right at this location.
https://goo.gl/maps/59AwknYCS2tgwCNH8

Go back in time to see the banner just barely hanging on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 10, 2022, 11:44:02 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 10, 2022, 08:06:15 AM
The ALT bean ear fell off the US 301 shield making it appear it's the mainline turning right at this location.
https://goo.gl/maps/59AwknYCS2tgwCNH8

Go back in time to see the banner just barely hanging on.

That would be this thread:  Missing signs (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=29613.0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on November 10, 2022, 09:10:20 PM
Seen this afternoon on South Moody Avenue in Portland, Oregon:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221111/407d249657d14a9c9f83e4aa848521d3.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on November 10, 2022, 09:54:43 PM
Apparently, VDOT thought US 60 was more important than I-64. The design is also bad.

(https://www.linkpicture.com/q/FEF549A9-C455-4E6C-AF28-EB65BDCCECAE.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on November 10, 2022, 09:59:25 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2022, 09:10:20 PM
Seen this afternoon on South Moody Avenue in Portland, Oregon:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221111/407d249657d14a9c9f83e4aa848521d3.jpg)

Geesh.  We railroaders get blamed for everything.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 10, 2022, 10:04:28 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2022, 09:10:20 PM
Seen this afternoon on South Moody Avenue in Portland, Oregon:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221111/407d249657d14a9c9f83e4aa848521d3.jpg)

Yeesh. At least he wore his helmet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 11, 2022, 01:14:54 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.099709,-115.1899573,3a,15y,66.46h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ8iJ4fT3NVpU63bC62WXUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Here's an odd VMS in Las Vegas that looks like it can display an Interstate or US route shield. Detour route, maybe?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 11, 2022, 09:32:23 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2022, 09:10:20 PM
Seen this afternoon on South Moody Avenue in Portland, Oregon:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221111/407d249657d14a9c9f83e4aa848521d3.jpg)

CAUTION:  DO NOT MODIFY YOUR BICYCLE WITH A POGO STICK!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 11, 2022, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 11, 2022, 01:14:54 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.099709,-115.1899573,3a,15y,66.46h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ8iJ4fT3NVpU63bC62WXUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Here's an odd VMS in Las Vegas that looks like it can display an Interstate or US route shield. Detour route, maybe?

I thought you hated it when people just posted GSV links...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 11, 2022, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on November 10, 2022, 09:54:43 PM
Apparently, VDOT thought US 60 was more important than I-64. The design is also bad.

(https://www.linkpicture.com/q/FEF549A9-C455-4E6C-AF28-EB65BDCCECAE.png)

Eastbound I-64 also has an inferiority complex in West Virginia (see second gantry).

(https://i.imgur.com/aa07ntS.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 11, 2022, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 11, 2022, 10:52:39 AM
I thought you hated it when people just posted GSV links...

I do, but my photo of this sign didn't come out as well as the GSV did. (It just looks like a featureless black square on mine.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 11, 2022, 10:44:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 11, 2022, 01:14:54 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.099709,-115.1899573,3a,15y,66.46h,88.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ8iJ4fT3NVpU63bC62WXUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Here's an odd VMS in Las Vegas that looks like it can display an Interstate or US route shield. Detour route, maybe?

Actually, there are (or were) a lot of these around the Vegas area. These were deployed, I think in the early/mid 2000s, to be used as a means of directing traffic around major traffic jams along US 95 or I-15 by lighting up suggested detour routes. (Note that the sign you linked is along Valley View Blvd, the first major north/south arterial road west of I-15 as it passes through the resort corridor.)

IIRC, the idea was that FAST ("Freeway and Arterial System of Transportation, the traffic management arm of the Southern Nevada Regional Transportation Commission) would be alerted to an incident or see the incident on freeway traffic cameras, and relatively quickly put up messaging on freeway VMS about detours, light up these signs for detour reassurance, and also adjust traffic signal timing along detour routes to accommodate increased traffic flows diverted from the freeway.

It all sounds great. However, I believe there were some kind of problems with the signs or the communications network that controlled them. ISTR reading that the implementation was delayed multiple times such that by the time the signs could be used, much of US 95 and I-15 had been widened (so they no longer experienced the significant and frequent slowdowns of years past) and many more people had GPSs or smart phones with real-time traffic data, making the system obsolete. Ultimately, I believe these signs have never actually been used for their intended purpose–I've never even seen one turned on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 11, 2022, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on November 10, 2022, 09:54:43 PM
Apparently, VDOT thought US 60 was more important than I-64. The design is also bad.

(https://www.linkpicture.com/q/FEF549A9-C455-4E6C-AF28-EB65BDCCECAE.png)

This BGS dates back to the late 1990's (I don't remember the exact year but it was before the turn of the century/millennium) and US 60 was posted on it afterwards. It was actually the correct thing to do as US 60 existed on the HRBT before I-64.

The I-64 posting looks small in the pic but the US 60 posting is actually oversized.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 12, 2022, 01:16:29 AM
That doesn't explain why the heck there's a left arrow on the right side of the sign, though...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 12, 2022, 01:34:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EhuwAJUsBiMpzsSJ7

The Hampton Roads Tunnel which extends far across the entire sign, is only referring to US 60 West on the left side of the sign.

Considering you can't change lanes anymore, the sign should be removed altogether.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 12, 2022, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 12, 2022, 01:16:29 AM
That doesn't explain why the heck there's a left arrow on the right side of the sign, though...

It's even more silly considering the sign is on the right side of the road

https://maps.app.goo.gl/JzPnoKVFpwAwWR9e8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on November 12, 2022, 08:20:06 PM
Counting according to OkDOT is just as easy as 1-2-3! (https://goo.gl/maps/BEnhwmW5VFWBxDvg8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 14, 2022, 09:09:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/kH3CA51V9QhzV4hz6
Business TO?  Might be erroneous placement of banners, but interesting.

https://goo.gl/maps/EpPsY3umd6E5yU5n6
Looks like NY 104 is heading into Walt Disney World signed Main Street USA 😂
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on November 14, 2022, 10:48:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 14, 2022, 09:09:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/kH3CA51V9QhzV4hz6
Business TO?  Might be erroneous placement of banners, but interesting.

https://goo.gl/maps/EpPsY3umd6E5yU5n6
Looks like NY 104 is heading into Walt Disney World signed Main Street USA 😂

Good old City of Niagara Falls. I don't think Business 62 has ever existed in the city. There was a NY 62A at one time, but that has been decommissioned. The thing with Niagara Falls is that it's very hard to follow a route the whole way through the city; signage is either poor, misleading, or lacking entirely. I'm not sure the city itself knows the exact route of NY 384 in the city. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 15, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
I like the abbreviation that NYSDOT uses for Niagara as seen in this GSV image.
https://goo.gl/maps/patygRNupbXGF5K5A 

Why not just add the two extra letters by using smaller fonts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 16, 2022, 04:27:50 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 15, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
I like the abbreviation that NYSDOT uses for Niagara as seen in this GSV image.
https://goo.gl/maps/patygRNupbXGF5K5A 

Why not just add the two extra letters by using smaller fonts.

Not sure about anyone else, but I don't see any abbreviations in that GSV image. Can you double check the link? I see "Niagara" on the street name sign, but it's fully spelled out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 16, 2022, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 16, 2022, 04:27:50 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 15, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
I like the abbreviation that NYSDOT uses for Niagara as seen in this GSV image.
https://goo.gl/maps/patygRNupbXGF5K5A 

Why not just add the two extra letters by using smaller fonts.

Not sure about anyone else, but I don't see any abbreviations in that GSV image. Can you double check the link? I see "Niagara" on the street name sign, but it's fully spelled out.

Same here. Not sure what you're referring to, roadman.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on November 16, 2022, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 16, 2022, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 16, 2022, 04:27:50 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 15, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
I like the abbreviation that NYSDOT uses for Niagara as seen in this GSV image.
https://goo.gl/maps/patygRNupbXGF5K5A 

Why not just add the two extra letters by using smaller fonts.

Not sure about anyone else, but I don't see any abbreviations in that GSV image. Can you double check the link? I see "Niagara" on the street name sign, but it's fully spelled out.

Same here. Not sure what you're referring to, roadman.

I've seen both "Nia Falls" and "Niag Falls" in the region. Either works for me, but I prefer "Niag Falls".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:06:21 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 16, 2022, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 16, 2022, 04:27:50 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 15, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
I like the abbreviation that NYSDOT uses for Niagara as seen in this GSV image.
https://goo.gl/maps/patygRNupbXGF5K5A 

Why not just add the two extra letters by using smaller fonts.

Not sure about anyone else, but I don't see any abbreviations in that GSV image. Can you double check the link? I see "Niagara" on the street name sign, but it's fully spelled out.

Same here. Not sure what you're referring to, roadman.

Sorry wrong link.

Try this.
https://goo.gl/maps/nEL2mBEpQf63LSs86
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:24:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/GFEHQwQFVggaV6cx6
This is confusing.

In 41 miles both US 6 and and US 95 part ways.  Yet the 100 mile guide for next gas guide is guiding motorists on both routes.  It can't be exactly 100 miles for fuel for either route.

According to the GPS, Bishop, CA at 115.7 miles is first town going this way on US 6 while Hawthorne, NV the first settlement of services on US 95 is 103 miles from here.

So this assembly is not accurate for traveling US 6 west out of Tonopah.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 16, 2022, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:24:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/GFEHQwQFVggaV6cx6
This is confusing.

In 41 miles both US 6 and and US 95 part ways.  Yet the 100 mile guide for next gas guide is guiding motorists on both routes.  It can't be exactly 100 miles for fuel for either route.
State Highway Patrol probably just got sick of people running out of gas after this point.

Had a friend that lived in Tonopah for a while.  I kind of liked that little town.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:36:27 AM
I saw GSV imagery of the town.  Looks neat. It has a hotel that is several stories that must be the original hotel from way back. The Tonopah Station has a billboard warning of a 25 mph bear trap.

I'm guessing cops there have nothing better to do.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 16, 2022, 11:06:33 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:36:27 AM
I saw GSV imagery of the town.  Looks neat. It has a hotel that is several stories that must be the original hotel from way back. The Tonopah Station has a billboard warning of a 25 mph bear trap.

I'm guessing cops there have nothing better to do.
My bet is that the locals blow through there more than out of staters.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on November 16, 2022, 01:44:05 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:24:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/GFEHQwQFVggaV6cx6
This is confusing.

In 41 miles both US 6 and and US 95 part ways.  Yet the 100 mile guide for next gas guide is guiding motorists on both routes.  It can't be exactly 100 miles for fuel for either route.

According to the GPS, Bishop, CA at 115.7 miles is first town going this way on US 6 while Hawthorne, NV the first settlement of services on US 95 is 103 miles from here.

So this assembly is not accurate for traveling US 6 west out of Tonopah.

They could do a sign like this:

NEXT GAS
US 95-103 MI
US 6- 116 MI
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 16, 2022, 05:24:21 PM
I mean, precision isn't really of any concern there. The point is "put a big scary number on the sign to make people look at their gas gauge before they leave town".

I doubt there's anyone in the world that would stop for gas if the next services were 116 miles but wouldn't stop for gas if it were 103 miles. Or 100.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on November 16, 2022, 06:40:18 PM
^I was just thinking of that sign on the Thruway that tells the distance to the next service area in different directions. But thinking about it, yes, precision doesn't make a difference here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 17, 2022, 01:41:36 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 16, 2022, 10:06:21 AM

Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 16, 2022, 07:56:46 AM

Quote from: jakeroot on November 16, 2022, 04:27:50 AM

Quote from: roadman65 on November 15, 2022, 10:35:43 PM
I like the abbreviation that NYSDOT uses for Niagara as seen in this GSV image.
https://goo.gl/maps/patygRNupbXGF5K5A 

Why not just add the two extra letters by using smaller fonts.

Not sure about anyone else, but I don't see any abbreviations in that GSV image. Can you double check the link? I see "Niagara" on the street name sign, but it's fully spelled out.

Same here. Not sure what you're referring to, roadman.

Sorry wrong link.

Try this.
https://goo.gl/maps/nEL2mBEpQf63LSs86

Niagar Falls?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 17, 2022, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 16, 2022, 05:24:21 PM
I mean, precision isn't really of any concern there. The point is "put a big scary number on the sign to make people look at their gas gauge before they leave town".

I doubt there's anyone in the world that would stop for gas if the next services were 116 miles but wouldn't stop for gas if it were 103 miles. Or 100.

I probably would, all else being the same.  I generally know how many miles I can get on a tank of gas, and DTE displays on the instrument panel make that even easier.  I'm perfectly happy to schedule my fill-up for a place where the light will have already come on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 17, 2022, 06:08:41 PM
Eh, you do you, but having that much faith in the instrument panel when a miscalculation results in you breaking down in the Nevada desert is...ballsy, to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 17, 2022, 06:28:56 PM
Unique reassurance shields with a black background and white text in Monitor, Washington: https://goo.gl/maps/MVwR2Pwk3p5Jc8p68

For comparison to the normal ones: https://goo.gl/maps/XcdgGcSe6xM8UFkT9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 17, 2022, 06:33:19 PM
Quote from: Amaury on November 17, 2022, 06:28:56 PM
Unique reassurance shields with a black background and white text in Monitor, Washington: https://goo.gl/maps/MVwR2Pwk3p5Jc8p68

For comparison to the normal ones: https://goo.gl/maps/XcdgGcSe6xM8UFkT9

By itself I would have assumed it was a junction sign. Which are also very rare, but at least the colors are correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on November 17, 2022, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 17, 2022, 06:08:41 PM
Eh, you do you, but having that much faith in the instrument panel when a miscalculation results in you breaking down in the Nevada desert is...ballsy, to me.

Yeah, I would never do that. When I was a kid, my dad's car had a faulty gas needle. I think he knew something was up with it based on the mileage, but he definitely didn't realize how bad it was until he ran out of gas on I-15 in Salt Lake City and my mom and I had to drive a gas can out to him. That was in a major metropolitan area with plenty of services nearby. It easily could have happened out in the deserts where there is no cell service and no towns for many tens of miles, which would have been a very different situation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 17, 2022, 07:43:34 PM
Also, there's no really guarantee other than NDOT's say so that the gas station at the end of that 113-mile stretch will be open when you get there. (Maybe it closes on Sundays. Maybe the owner couldn't get anyone to work that day. Maybe it went out of business, etc.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 18, 2022, 09:27:56 AM
meh.

As I said, I have a good idea how many miles I get on a tank of gas.  I regularly drive ten miles or more after the DTE display on the dashboard stops counting down and just goes to 'LOW FUEL LEVEL' instead.  I've never run out of gas on the road.  I have been stranded on the side of the road in 100°F heat with no cell phone coverage before, but not because I'd run out of gas.

And I plan my gas stops ahead of time, so I already have a good idea starting out if the station is likely to close unexpectedly or not.  So I'd already know that there are multiple gas stations in Bishop (or Hawthorne) and that, if one of them closed unexpectedly, I'd be extremely unlikely to find the others closed as well.  And I generally don't plan my fill-ups in towns with only one gas station, for precisely that reason.  So yeah, if I figured I had 120 miles left in the tank, and the sign said 116 miles to town, then I'm sure I'd stop early and fill up, just to be safe–but if it said 103 miles to town, then I doubt I would.

For the last fifteen years or whatever, I've kept track of mileage with every fill-up.  I record how many miles I got on that tank of gas, and I calculate the miles per gallon.  I pay attention to fluctuations in the mileage, and I try to figure out if it was due to weather conditions, a different proportion of city/highway driving, more lead-footed driving, low tire pressure, etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on November 18, 2022, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 18, 2022, 09:27:56 AM
meh.

As I said, I have a good idea how many miles I get on a tank of gas.  I regularly drive ten miles or more after the DTE display on the dashboard stops counting down and just goes to 'LOW FUEL LEVEL' instead.  I've never run out of gas on the road.  I have been stranded on the side of the road in 100°F heat with no cell phone coverage before, but not because I'd run out of gas.

And I plan my gas stops ahead of time, so I already have a good idea starting out if the station is likely to close unexpectedly or not.  So I'd already know that there are multiple gas stations in Bishop (or Hawthorne) and that, if one of them closed unexpectedly, I'd be extremely unlikely to find the others closed as well.  And I generally don't plan my fill-ups in towns with only one gas station, for precisely that reason.  So yeah, if I figured I had 120 miles left in the tank, and the sign said 116 miles to town, then I'm sure I'd stop early and fill up, just to be safe—but if it said 103 miles to town, then I doubt I would.

But what if about 70 miles out, there's been a huge storm or something and the road is washed out or otherwise closed for some reason? Now you can't make it back to where you started and you're stuck sleeping in your car surviving on whatever snacks are in it.

My margin of error would be more like 50-100 miles on that calculation. I find there's a huge amount of variation in the DTE display in my car compared to the mileage I actually drive, which depends on mountains, wind...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 18, 2022, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: US 89 on November 18, 2022, 09:32:43 AM
But what if about 70 miles out, there's been a huge storm or something and the road is washed out or otherwise closed for some reason? Now you can't make it back to where you started and you're stuck sleeping in your car surviving on whatever snacks are in it.

The chance of that being the case (and our being unaware of it) is so exceedingly slim that it doesn't factor into my decision-making.  And, in all honesty, if that really did happen, I'd probably turn around and drive as far as I could, then hitchhike the rest of the way to get a gas can and find someone to drive me back out to our car (perhaps for a small fee).  But I'm 41 years old and never had anything like that happen yet.  As I said, I've been stranded before when I ran the radiator dry, and it's not like we didn't survive.

Quote from: US 89 on November 18, 2022, 09:32:43 AM
My margin of error would be more like 50-100 miles on that calculation. I find there's a huge amount of variation in the DTE display in my car compared to the mileage I actually drive, which depends on mountains, wind...

Yep, terrain and weather affect mileage a lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 18, 2022, 11:11:26 AM
I don't live out west, but even around here, I tend to be very conservative when I fill up. I like to fill up around half full/half empty, just for peace of mind. When I was at college, my motto was to have enough gas to be able to immediately drive home without stopping if there was an emergency (around half a tank). If I see a really good price, I won't be afraid to stop even if I only need a quarter tank.

If I saw that the next station was 100 miles away, I'd be filling up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: flaminhotfrank on November 18, 2022, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 24, 2022, 04:54:35 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
You cared enough to tell me that. :bigass:

He doesn't care about your post count; he cares about this forum not being full of talk about post counts.

Best not to dwell on a number that an admin with a mischievous streak can change to whatever they want...

Yall are just talkin about it more, therefore making more posts about it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 18, 2022, 11:16:41 AM
I should point out that terrain and weather matter less in some vehicles than others.  When I used to drive an Isuzu cab-over turbodiesel box truck for work, I could count on exactly 300 miles per tank–no matter how full of cargo it was, no matter what speed I drove, no matter what the wind was doing, no matter if my route was mostly local or mostly rural, it always needed a fill-up right at the 300-mile mark.  Back when I had a Nissan Pathfinder, the factors that mattered most were air temperature and max revs while accelerating–while things like top speed and wind speeds only started to make a significant difference at speeds above 70 mph.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on November 18, 2022, 11:21:33 AM
Quote from: flaminhotfrank on November 18, 2022, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 24, 2022, 04:54:35 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 24, 2022, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on July 24, 2022, 12:45:48 PM
This is my 100th post!

Hate to break it to you, but nobody cares.
You cared enough to tell me that. :bigass:

He doesn't care about your post count; he cares about this forum not being full of talk about post counts.

Best not to dwell on a number that an admin with a mischievous streak can change to whatever they want...

Yall are just talkin about it more, therefore making more posts about it.

Says the guy who's commenting on a post from nearly four months ago when everyone else has moved on...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 18, 2022, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 18, 2022, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: US 89 on November 18, 2022, 09:32:43 AM
But what if about 70 miles out, there's been a huge storm or something and the road is washed out or otherwise closed for some reason? Now you can't make it back to where you started and you're stuck sleeping in your car surviving on whatever snacks are in it.

The chance of that being the case (and our being unaware of it) is so exceedingly slim that it doesn't factor into my decision-making.  And, in all honesty, if that really did happen, I'd probably turn around and drive as far as I could, then hitchhike the rest of the way to get a gas can and find someone to drive me back out to our car (perhaps for a small fee).  But I'm 41 years old and never had anything like that happen yet.  As I said, I've been stranded before when I ran the radiator dry, and it's not like we didn't survive.

Given that it's Nevada, I wouldn't necessarily count on the existence of anyone else driving by to hitchhike with. (Especially if the road is impassible–if it turns out you're the only guy in the county who doesn't know about that, who else would be on the road toward the blockage?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 18, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
You may have a vehicle that calculates distance until empty, but watch how often that DTE adjusts if you are driving into a strong headwind.  I've had times where a 100 mile cushion quickly became a 60 mile cushion.

Now I wasn't in a service desert, but I had to gas up quicker than I expected.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on November 21, 2022, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 18, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
You may have a vehicle that calculates distance until empty, but watch how often that DTE adjusts if you are driving into a strong headwind.  I've had times where a 100 mile cushion quickly became a 60 mile cushion.

Now I wasn't in a service desert, but I had to gas up quicker than I expected.

I noticed this exact thing driving from Ohio to Indiana on Friday against the strong winds and then back on early Sunday morning with winds at my back generally...the MPG was noticeably worse westbound (which normally is not that noticeable, but the strong winds made a difference this time).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: IowaTraveler on November 21, 2022, 10:44:54 PM
The part about this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0259817,-93.9564257,3a,15y,210.56h,86.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAE5Ao5DKVstpEN1on8EtzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) that's interesting/unusual isn't the primary sign, but rather the supplementary distance sign below it. I don't know what the practice for this is in other states, but this is by far the most advanced warning I've seen for a 'pavement ends' sign in Iowa. Typically when a paved county road ends at gravel, the only warning you get is 500 feet in advance. Sometimes there's also a sign at 1500 feet if the county is feeling generous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 22, 2022, 12:09:15 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on November 21, 2022, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 18, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
You may have a vehicle that calculates distance until empty, but watch how often that DTE adjusts if you are driving into a strong headwind.  I've had times where a 100 mile cushion quickly became a 60 mile cushion.

Now I wasn't in a service desert, but I had to gas up quicker than I expected.

I noticed this exact thing driving from Ohio to Indiana on Friday against the strong winds and then back on early Sunday morning with winds at my back generally...the MPG was noticeably worse westbound (which normally is not that noticeable, but the strong winds made a difference this time).

In my collegiate days, I had an 83 Nissan Sentra.  One time I filled up on I-80 near Joliet and by the time I made it to Toledo, I only used less than a ½-tank of gas, thanks to a strong tail wind. 

I'm sure if my Sentra had a DTE computer (my car's speedometer only went to 85MPH), the DTE reading at the time of fill-up would have way underestimated how far I could've gone on that tankful!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 22, 2022, 01:54:19 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on November 18, 2022, 07:53:15 PM
You may have a vehicle that calculates distance until empty, but watch how often that DTE adjusts if you are driving into a strong headwind.  I've had times where a 100 mile cushion quickly became a 60 mile cushion.

I remember driving north from Marathon to Fort Stockton (TX) once, with bicycles on the roof of our 1997 Camry, and the headwind was so stiff that we drove in 4th gear for a lot of it.  Fortunately, we had filled up in Marathon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 25, 2022, 10:05:43 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52444478111/in/dateposted-public/
Considering that one use of the name could be controversial, I find it interesting the name here with Road 99W suggesting in a peculiar way that the two are connected.


https://goo.gl/maps/zXAs6QG3Rc7HD7x19
The fact no directional banners are used, but destinations instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: M3100 on November 26, 2022, 12:03:09 AM
Here's one from near Brawley in Imperial County, CA. 
This is on a 65-mph grade separated highway; the intersections were more like freeway on- and offramps, so I'm not sure what this is referring to
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52524262790_97409dd99a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 27, 2022, 01:14:44 AM
Spotted on I-80 in Nebraska around MP 328 near Aurora--"Watch For Wind On Bridges Next 1 Mile":

Westbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8221033,-98.0662828,3a,15y,309.06h,87.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJt-q7hKHuR2UDNtFeCaKOQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Eastbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.821895,-98.0936069,3a,27.1y,106.15h,86.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sclEAzEZcnbzUB29b2oNqfQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

However, the actual phrase I remember for the eastbound sign from earlier today is "Watch for Ice and Wind."

The bridges in question include a double crossing of Beaver Creek (a minor drainage) as well as underpasses for the BNSF railroad and a county road.  All are on a low eminence.  There is a windsock and a mast that I suspect holds the traffic camera NDOT labels "Aurora Anti-Icing."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on November 27, 2022, 03:12:06 AM
A clearance sign for a bike/pedestrian only overpass in Kirkland, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/pk8EVhq.jpg)

(Taken from a Twitter follow)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
Actually kind of relevant since a particularly tall person on a bike could have problems with an overpass that low.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 27, 2022, 01:38:43 PM
Yao Ming and Tacko Fall might want to duck a little if they happen to hike there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on November 27, 2022, 10:12:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
Actually kind of relevant since a particularly tall person on a bike could have problems with an overpass that low.

They do that on the Riverfront Trail near Loma and Fruita, CO when the trail ducks under I-70.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 28, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Dev9iFQvSv1LhtR7A
The NJ 19 shield has a lot to be desired.


https://goo.gl/maps/UTBCvxfwDrrFmV457
Since when is NJ using square design shields?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 28, 2022, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 28, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Dev9iFQvSv1LhtR7A
The NJ 19 shield has a lot to be desired.

I mean, it's 100% standard other than using Series E(M) for the digits. Not exactly the most attractive design in my opinion, but there's nothing really wrong with it.

Quote from: roadman65 on November 28, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/UTBCvxfwDrrFmV457
Since when is NJ using square design shields?

If you look closely you can see a white circle on an off-white background square. Fabrication error, perhaps?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 28, 2022, 04:19:11 PM
Sign on the right here just seems like a Keep Right sign with extra steps.

https://goo.gl/maps/81kqFHRXTrDMG9v96
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 28, 2022, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on November 28, 2022, 04:19:11 PM
Sign on the right here just seems like a Keep Right sign with extra steps.

https://goo.gl/maps/81kqFHRXTrDMG9v96
Heh.  Somebody didn't want to admit the Do Not Enter sign was a bad idea.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 29, 2022, 02:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 27, 2022, 03:12:06 AM
A clearance sign for a bike/pedestrian only overpass in Kirkland, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/pk8EVhq.jpg)

(Taken from a Twitter follow)

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
Actually kind of relevant since a particularly tall person on a bike could have problems with an overpass that low.

Reminds me of this even wackier example at the recently constructed 13th Street flyover, here in Wichita:  https://goo.gl/maps/KnVDwicrDcq7BNWq5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 29, 2022, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 28, 2022, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 28, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Dev9iFQvSv1LhtR7A
The NJ 19 shield has a lot to be desired.

I mean, it's 100% standard other than using Series E(M) for the digits. Not exactly the most attractive design in my opinion, but there's nothing really wrong with it.

Quote from: roadman65 on November 28, 2022, 12:52:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/UTBCvxfwDrrFmV457
Since when is NJ using square design shields?

If you look closely you can see a white circle on an off-white background square. Fabrication error, perhaps?

On the NJ 19 ramp, if you move along, you can see the exact same type of sign but with a proper circle, so the NJ 4 one might be just faded.

Love the NJ 19 button copy!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 29, 2022, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 29, 2022, 02:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 27, 2022, 03:12:06 AM
A clearance sign for a bike/pedestrian only overpass in Kirkland, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/pk8EVhq.jpg)

(Taken from a Twitter follow)

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
Actually kind of relevant since a particularly tall person on a bike could have problems with an overpass that low.

Reminds me of this even wackier example at the recently constructed 13th Street flyover, here in Wichita:  https://goo.gl/maps/KnVDwicrDcq7BNWq5

Don't want to bump your head while you're traipsing around in the brush under a freeway interchange. That'd be bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on November 30, 2022, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 29, 2022, 02:50:34 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 27, 2022, 03:12:06 AM
A clearance sign for a bike/pedestrian only overpass in Kirkland, WA:

(https://i.imgur.com/pk8EVhq.jpg)

(Taken from a Twitter follow)

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 27, 2022, 01:31:48 PM
Actually kind of relevant since a particularly tall person on a bike could have problems with an overpass that low.

Reminds me of this even wackier example at the recently constructed 13th Street flyover, here in Wichita:  https://goo.gl/maps/KnVDwicrDcq7BNWq5

That's awesome!  I've seen bridges over roads less marked than this area where if you are driving over these bushes in a creek looking area on the other side of a chain link fence.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 02:36:58 PM
For what it's worth, the path appears to be an access road to the Big Ditch.  There is a gate in the fence at the south end, visible here (https://goo.gl/maps/etzxpiXwwnM5XyQ9A).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 01, 2022, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 02:36:58 PMFor what it's worth, the path appears to be an access road to the Big Ditch.  There is a gate in the fence at the south end, visible here (https://goo.gl/maps/etzxpiXwwnM5XyQ9A).

There are multiple accesses--I've used (on foot only) the ones off Zoo Boulevard between the bridge and the I-235 ramps and at the I-235 bridge over the Arkansas River just to the northwest of where 21st Street bends south to become West Street.

Instead of embankment at the I-235 end, the 13th Street flyover bridges have extra length supported on piers that are all hammerhead, no handle.  This is not just to leave enough clearance for a maintenance access, but also to avoid interfering with the flood control function.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 01, 2022, 03:46:32 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 02:36:58 PM
For what it's worth, the path appears to be an access road to the Big Ditch.  There is a gate in the fence at the south end, visible here (https://goo.gl/maps/etzxpiXwwnM5XyQ9A).

There are multiple accesses--I've used (on foot only) the ones off Zoo Boulevard between the bridge and the I-235 ramps and at the I-235 bridge over the Arkansas River just to the northwest of where 21st Street bends south to become West Street.

Instead of embankment at the I-235 end, the 13th Street flyover bridges have extra length supported on piers that are all hammerhead, no handle.  This is not just to leave enough clearance for a maintenance access, but also to avoid interfering with the flood control function.

You and I (and some others on here) have probably walked right where that access road is...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 01, 2022, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 01, 2022, 03:46:32 PM

Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 02:36:58 PM
For what it's worth, the path appears to be an access road to the Big Ditch.  There is a gate in the fence at the south end, visible here (https://goo.gl/maps/etzxpiXwwnM5XyQ9A).

There are multiple accesses--I've used (on foot only) the ones off Zoo Boulevard between the bridge and the I-235 ramps and at the I-235 bridge over the Arkansas River just to the northwest of where 21st Street bends south to become West Street.

Instead of embankment at the I-235 end, the 13th Street flyover bridges have extra length supported on piers that are all hammerhead, no handle.  This is not just to leave enough clearance for a maintenance access, but also to avoid interfering with the flood control function.

You and I (and some others on here) have probably walked right where that access road is...

Didn't we go there during the Wichita meet in 2013?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 01, 2022, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 01, 2022, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on December 01, 2022, 03:46:32 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 02:36:58 PMFor what it's worth, the path appears to be an access road to the Big Ditch.  There is a gate in the fence at the south end, visible here (https://goo.gl/maps/etzxpiXwwnM5XyQ9A).

There are multiple accesses--I've used (on foot only) the ones off Zoo Boulevard between the bridge and the I-235 ramps and at the I-235 bridge over the Arkansas River just to the northwest of where 21st Street bends south to become West Street.

Instead of embankment at the I-235 end, the 13th Street flyover bridges have extra length supported on piers that are all hammerhead, no handle.  This is not just to leave enough clearance for a maintenance access, but also to avoid interfering with the flood control function.

You and I (and some others on here) have probably walked right where that access road is...

Didn't we go there during the Wichita meet in 2013?

Yes, it was the first stop after the meet lunch.  We explored the construction site from the west side of I-235, and several attendees examined the pier foundations.  We did not move over to the east side, where Berean Baptist Church was in the process of (or perhaps had finished) erecting a replacement of their main building that they presumably funded with their right-of-way settlement.  (Hoover Road, which bounds their property on the west, needed to be displaced a bit to the east to accommodate the northbound-to-westbound connector.)  Sadly, this brand-new building (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7055623,-97.4077916,3a,50.6y,85.93h,79.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shZ3syCutt0uLxPEdg3x3Lw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) was destroyed by fire soon after the flyover opened.  It was a shame--it had been finished in brick with limestone accents.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 01, 2022, 07:05:58 PM
Didn't we go there during the Wichita meet in 2013?

Yep, that was the site of the Attack of the Goat Heads (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9464.msg234208;topicseen#msg234208).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
Something prompted me to look at Google Maps for Far Rockaway, where my father's mother once lived (she died almost 30 years ago). In nosing around, I discovered a rather interesting sign just inside New York city limits prohibiting moving from the Seagirt Boulevard service road onto westbound Seagirt Boulevard (https://goo.gl/maps/tmoeA95dGQGxVLGb7). (Sorry to have to post a Street View link, but I have not been to Far Rockaway since the days after my grandmother died and I was up there for the funeral.) I have never seen a sign like that anywhere else, though it's an eminently clear sign and it makes perfect sense right there because there are some trees between the service road and the main road coupled with traffic coming off the Nassau Expressway at relatively high speeds, such that they want service road traffic to move over one block further down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
it makes perfect sense right there because there are some trees between the service road and the main road coupled with traffic coming off the Nassau Expressway at relatively high speeds, such that they want service road traffic to move over one block further down.

And yet apparently that isn't a concern when it comes to traffic approaching from the side street itself, turning from a right angle...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 02, 2022, 12:54:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 01, 2022, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 01, 2022, 07:05:58 PM
Didn't we go there during the Wichita meet in 2013?

Yep, that was the site of the Attack of the Goat Heads (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9464.msg234208;topicseen#msg234208).

That's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on December 02, 2022, 12:58:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
it makes perfect sense right there because there are some trees between the service road and the main road coupled with traffic coming off the Nassau Expressway at relatively high speeds, such that they want service road traffic to move over one block further down.

And yet apparently that isn't a concern when it comes to traffic approaching from the side street itself, turning from a right angle...

Yeah, that whole situation seems very confusing. Why not just close the access between Beach 6th and Seagirt, since that area can be accessed from Beach 9th anyway?

Also, that "No Turn" sign doesn't seem that clear to me. Usually those black-on-white arrow signs mean you have to go that way, and this example means the exact opposite. I think it should add the red circle with strike-through (typical for no turn restrictions). Alternatively, this sign would also work if it were allowed in the US...
(https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/regulatory-road-sign-quebec-canada-260nw-320965577.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on December 02, 2022, 12:58:40 PM
Also, that "No Turn" sign doesn't seem that clear to me. Usually those black-on-white arrow signs mean you have to go that way, and this example means the exact opposite. I think it should add the red circle with strike-through (typical for no turn restrictions).

Something like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/yGPVCbW.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on December 02, 2022, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on December 02, 2022, 12:58:40 PM
Also, that "No Turn" sign doesn't seem that clear to me. Usually those black-on-white arrow signs mean you have to go that way, and this example means the exact opposite. I think it should add the red circle with strike-through (typical for no turn restrictions).

Something like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/yGPVCbW.png)

Yeah exactly! :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on December 02, 2022, 01:37:57 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on December 02, 2022, 12:58:40 PM
Also, that "No Turn" sign doesn't seem that clear to me. Usually those black-on-white arrow signs mean you have to go that way, and this example means the exact opposite. I think it should add the red circle with strike-through (typical for no turn restrictions).

Something like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/yGPVCbW.png)

I would add a stem on your arrow so it looks more like the standard No Left/Right Turn signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 01:39:33 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 02, 2022, 01:37:57 PM
I would add a stem on your arrow so it looks more like the standard No Left/Right Turn signs.

I thought of that, but making it look like a standard No Left Turn sign would obfuscate the actual intended meaning:  if I saw a No Left Turn sign, then I would assume it's still OK to shift between the frontage road and the main roadway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
it makes perfect sense right there because there are some trees between the service road and the main road coupled with traffic coming off the Nassau Expressway at relatively high speeds, such that they want service road traffic to move over one block further down.

And yet apparently that isn't a concern when it comes to traffic approaching from the side street itself, turning from a right angle...

I would assume–this is just my guess–that's because it's easier to look 90° to your left than it is to turn your head almost completely to see traffic coming essentially from behind you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on December 02, 2022, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
it makes perfect sense right there because there are some trees between the service road and the main road coupled with traffic coming off the Nassau Expressway at relatively high speeds, such that they want service road traffic to move over one block further down.

And yet apparently that isn't a concern when it comes to traffic approaching from the side street itself, turning from a right angle...

I would assume–this is just my guess–that's because it's easier to look 90° to your left than it is to turn your head almost completely to see traffic coming essentially from behind you.
I would figure that as well.  The difficulty and awkwardness of looking nearly 180° is why I try to avoid this stop sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7446951,-73.7619394,3a,75y,197.15h,83.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sveOWGCHQ7I96uA5uQ_bctw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
In nosing around, I discovered a rather interesting sign just inside New York city limits prohibiting moving from the Seagirt Boulevard service road onto westbound Seagirt Boulevard (https://goo.gl/maps/tmoeA95dGQGxVLGb7).

Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
I would assume–this is just my guess–that's because it's easier to look 90° to your left than it is to turn your head almost completely to see traffic coming essentially from behind you.

Quote from: vdeane on December 02, 2022, 10:00:44 PM
I would figure that as well.

How is it any easier one block farther down the road (https://goo.gl/maps/KDxvSAX2eoFnBZCm7)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 10:23:02 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
In nosing around, I discovered a rather interesting sign just inside New York city limits prohibiting moving from the Seagirt Boulevard service road onto westbound Seagirt Boulevard (https://goo.gl/maps/tmoeA95dGQGxVLGb7).

Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
I would assume–this is just my guess–that's because it's easier to look 90° to your left than it is to turn your head almost completely to see traffic coming essentially from behind you.

Quote from: vdeane on December 02, 2022, 10:00:44 PM
I would figure that as well.

How is it any easier one block farther down the road (https://goo.gl/maps/KDxvSAX2eoFnBZCm7)?

You're farther from the interchange with the Nassau Expressway, so I guess they deem it less dangerous.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on December 05, 2022, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 02, 2022, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 02, 2022, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on December 02, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
it makes perfect sense right there because there are some trees between the service road and the main road coupled with traffic coming off the Nassau Expressway at relatively high speeds, such that they want service road traffic to move over one block further down.

And yet apparently that isn't a concern when it comes to traffic approaching from the side street itself, turning from a right angle...

I would assume–this is just my guess–that's because it's easier to look 90° to your left than it is to turn your head almost completely to see traffic coming essentially from behind you.
I would figure that as well.  The difficulty and awkwardness of looking nearly 180° is why I try to avoid this stop sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7446951,-73.7619394,3a,75y,197.15h,83.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sveOWGCHQ7I96uA5uQ_bctw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).

Who thought that was a good design? Was it supposed to be traffic calming?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 05, 2022, 10:32:53 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Zti7JbvLvWPpHJRXA
Not only is this sign interesting that the 405 freeway is in text on a private enterprise sign, but that you would be routed through a parking garage to get there.

https://goo.gl/maps/3D3jw9JCuNxH1qd4A
Then this where the ONLY warning is two lanes out, but the one lane out is not warned.

https://goo.gl/maps/xYqnwdzof2ZueuSEA
Then the I-405 Freeway Entrance sign is to the left of the guide sign and not to the right of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on December 06, 2022, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2022, 10:32:53 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/xYqnwdzof2ZueuSEA
Then the I-405 Freeway Entrance sign is to the left of the guide sign and not to the right of it.

Normally, I think Caltrans would put the guide sign before the ramp, but it's likely placed here so that the right turn is not confused with the adjacent side street. The configuration of the guide sign with respect to freeway entrance sign package likely has something to do with differing sign placement standards for the two types of signs (guide signs typically being further back from edge of pavement).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on December 06, 2022, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: roadfro on December 06, 2022, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2022, 10:32:53 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/xYqnwdzof2ZueuSEA
Then the I-405 Freeway Entrance sign is to the left of the guide sign and not to the right of it.

Normally, I think Caltrans would put the guide sign before the ramp, but it's likely placed here so that the right turn is not confused with the adjacent side street. The configuration of the guide sign with respect to freeway entrance sign package likely has something to do with differing sign placement standards for the two types of signs (guide signs typically being further back from edge of pavement).

I'll further add that the configuration is not uncommon in California exactly for that reason.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 08, 2022, 04:00:59 PM
Another "fare" sign is due to bite the dust just south of the Mackinac Bridge.  The following sign sketches come from the construction plans for Michigan DOT contract 20015-201971.

Original sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/FvUtkwg.png)

New sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/umCCciF.png)

However, an existing "fare" sign upstream will be retained in place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on December 10, 2022, 02:19:59 AM
Holy cow that's a lot of small text. (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0897237,-122.6457096,3a,15y,15.46h,83.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfiNKxj-ZfWUZaaeuCZmAew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) Seriously, the only way you could possibly read that is walking by, and while there's technically a sidewalk there, it ends just past the sign and the road ends at I-5 not much further, so there's absolutely no reason anyone would be walking here unless they really wanted to read the sign for some reason. And even the full-size text looks awful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on December 10, 2022, 10:30:11 AM
Quote from: jay8g on December 10, 2022, 02:19:59 AM
Holy cow that's a lot of small text. (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0897237,-122.6457096,3a,15y,15.46h,83.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfiNKxj-ZfWUZaaeuCZmAew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) Seriously, the only way you could possibly read that is walking by, and while there's technically a sidewalk there, it ends just past the sign and the road ends at I-5 not much further, so there's absolutely no reason anyone would be walking here unless they really wanted to read the sign for some reason. And even the full-size text looks awful.

I think we found a winner! (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32481.0)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 10, 2022, 11:15:08 AM
Quote from: jay8g on December 10, 2022, 02:19:59 AM
Holy cow that's a lot of small text. (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0897237,-122.6457096,3a,15y,15.46h,83.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfiNKxj-ZfWUZaaeuCZmAew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) Seriously, the only way you could possibly read that is walking by, and while there's technically a sidewalk there, it ends just past the sign and the road ends at I-5 not much further, so there's absolutely no reason anyone would be walking here unless they really wanted to read the sign for some reason. And even the full-size text looks awful.

I rarely swear on here (but I'm a sailor mouth otherwise), but I think this is worthy of a "what the fuck?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 10, 2022, 05:03:58 PM
Seems that a Christmas Tree Lane shield was installed this year on Van Ness Boulevard in Fresno just north of Shields Avenue.  This segment of Van Ness Boulevard has held a Christmas Tree Lane event since 1920:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52555401994_45fab10a61_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o59b1A)IMG_7373 (https://flic.kr/p/2o59b1A) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on December 10, 2022, 05:43:31 PM
Mommy mommy buy me a street sign!
(https://i.imgur.com/OcBgDKI.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 10, 2022, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 10, 2022, 05:03:58 PM
Seems that a Christmas Tree Lane shield was installed this year on Van Ness Boulevard in Fresno just north of Shields Avenue.  This segment of Van Ness Boulevard has held a Christmas Tree Lane event since 1920:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52555401994_45fab10a61_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o59b1A)IMG_7373 (https://flic.kr/p/2o59b1A) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Borrowed from the European triangular signs?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 11, 2022, 04:07:41 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/FQ8PhKUduB66LuYr8
These US 30 shields are very ugly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 11, 2022, 04:24:00 PM
^^ Acorn shields again  :ded:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 12, 2022, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on December 10, 2022, 05:43:31 PM
Mommy mommy buy me a street sign!
(https://i.imgur.com/OcBgDKI.jpg)

...were you talking to my street?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on December 12, 2022, 09:00:43 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 12, 2022, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on December 10, 2022, 05:43:31 PM
Mommy mommy buy me a street sign!
(https://i.imgur.com/OcBgDKI.jpg)

Excuse me, were you talking to my street?

No, my street is also named Bort.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on December 12, 2022, 09:53:50 PM
Could've replaced it at least, VDOT...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/197116857@N03/52557734465/in/datetaken-public/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 12, 2022, 10:33:05 PM
Yeah those oversized arrows are terrible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on December 13, 2022, 02:38:14 AM
This one is interesting since there is no Interstate 90 Alternate: https://goo.gl/maps/g2sofhJhXgrxn8WX7

Unless they mean it as an alternate way to get to Interstate 90, and they don't mean it like US Route 97 Alternate or Washington State Route 141 Alternate, both of which do exist. Although I don't know why you would go all the way that way to get back on Interstate 90 in either direction when there are entrances and exits right there by Chevron. Coming from that way if you took the earlier exit, I understand, but...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 13, 2022, 01:06:49 PM
The QC 138 part of this assembly is huge compared to the A-20 part. Avenue Saint-Pierre NB, Montréal.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52561686079_b4bb600f2b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5Go3T)Big QC 138 shield, Montréal (https://flic.kr/p/2o5Go3T) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 14, 2022, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 13, 2022, 01:06:49 PM
The QC 138 part of this assembly is huge compared to the A-20 part. Avenue Saint-Pierre NB, Montréal.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52561686079_b4bb600f2b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5Go3T)Big QC 138 shield, Montréal (https://flic.kr/p/2o5Go3T) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
I feel like this is a great case of 'similar-looking stuff means similiar stuff'.

I don't speak French, and the text of the signs is unreadable by me. But, the shapes, colors, etc. seem to translate well. I could probably dope out "EST" is "East" etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 14, 2022, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 14, 2022, 01:06:29 PM
I feel like this is a great case of 'similar-looking stuff means similiar stuff'.

I don't speak French, and the text of the signs is unreadable by me. But, the shapes, colors, etc. seem to translate well. I could probably dope out "EST" is "East" etc.
Yep, EST is "east" and OUEST is "west" (the latter pronounced the same way, too).

Speaking of English signage, here's a sample of the bilingual signage on the federally-maintained Pont Samuel de Champlain:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52563541366_b02decf3d6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5RTyA)Bilingual Champlain signage - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2o5RTyA) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52564074553_691b9f9387.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5UC4t)Bilingual Champlain signage - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2o5UC4t) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52563084677_c364bc9d39.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o5PxND)Bilingual Champlain signage - 3 (https://flic.kr/p/2o5PxND) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

All of those signs are odd for Québec, as English cardinal directions are unheard of outside of structures maintained by the federal government (and even then, I'd say only this bridge has them).

Edit: How could I forget the classic "Avenue Atwater Avenue" sign (bilingualism to the extreme, to quote Alps (https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/on/tch_417/)):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52538266631_54a6bd4007.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o3Cmgi)Avenue Atwater Avenue, A-15 SB/A-20 EB, sortie 61 (https://flic.kr/p/2o3Cmgi) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 14, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
I don't speak French, but I think LIGNE D'ARRET is STOP LINE.  As stop signs say "ARRET.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 14, 2022, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 14, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
I don't speak French, but I think LIGNE D'ARRET is STOP LINE.  As stop signs say "ARRET.
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on December 14, 2022, 05:10:50 PM
I just find it interesting that the 25 MPH sign is below a stop ahead sign:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52557797048_856f6f41ee_o_d.jpg)
(My image; uploaded here via Flickr)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 15, 2022, 12:46:46 AM
A nice little STOP AHEAD sign in a quiet Royal Oak MI neighborhood.  Not really to MUTCD spec and yet I like its use at this location.

(https://i.imgur.com/dX76xU4.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on December 15, 2022, 07:59:12 AM
Strange EXIT ONLY signage in Gallup: https://goo.gl/maps/mKN11iNDbXX1Gyk59 (https://goo.gl/maps/mKN11iNDbXX1Gyk59)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 15, 2022, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on December 15, 2022, 07:59:12 AM
Strange EXIT ONLY signage in Gallup: https://goo.gl/maps/mKN11iNDbXX1Gyk59 (https://goo.gl/maps/mKN11iNDbXX1Gyk59)

The EAST I-40 trailblazer downstream is missing the arrow. Shocking!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 15, 2022, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 14, 2022, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 14, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
I don't speak French, but I think LIGNE D'ARRET is STOP LINE.  As stop signs say "ARRET.
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
And really, your signs there really don't look that much different, other than different shields etc. Were one to blur out the text, it's still easy to figure out what's going on where. I like the bilingual ones - they make sense in an area where there's, well, more than one language being spoken.

And plus, it's Canada.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on December 15, 2022, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on December 15, 2022, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 14, 2022, 05:01:39 PM
Quote from: Big John on December 14, 2022, 04:55:04 PM
I don't speak French, but I think LIGNE D'ARRET is STOP LINE.  As stop signs say "ARRET.
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
And really, your signs there really don't look that much different, other than different shields etc. Were one to blur out the text, it's still easy to figure out what's going on where. I like the bilingual ones - they make sense in an area where there's, well, more than one language being spoken.

And plus, it's Canada.

The irony of the "ARRET" stop signs in Quebec is that they are pretty unique to Quebec and other corners of Canada that have a francophone community (basically Quebec and half of NB). In France and most other French-speaking nations, stop signs say "STOP". But the language fanatics in Quebec insist that having a standardized sign is verboten if the standard is not French-based.  Just to stick it to the anglophones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on December 15, 2022, 07:30:41 PM
There's still some bilingual signage hanging around in the Outaouais. Mainly ARRÊT/STOP signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on December 16, 2022, 09:38:05 AM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on December 15, 2022, 07:30:41 PM
There's still some bilingual signage hanging around in the Outaouais. Mainly ARRÊT/STOP signs.

You see that in francophone-heavy parts of (generally eastern) Ontario. But once you cross into Quebec, they're rare.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on December 16, 2022, 09:44:13 AM
I have a photo of a bilingual stop sign in Quebec... but the second language is one of the indigenous languages, not English. (Wendake reservation, surrounded by Quebec City inside city limits but nowhere near downtown.)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48373972536_2d7a6046e4_k.jpg)

I didn't realize until just now that "Bed & Breakfast" is in English. While the people there knew enough English to talk to us, it doesn't seem to be that common here.

Fortunately, red octagons are obvious in meaning, and the only time it doesn't mean the same thing as every other red octagon is if there's also an arrow (i.e. stop ahead sign).

Quebec is pretty good about bilingual signage. Take this, for example.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48298766287_d4ae15f37e_k.jpg)
"Bus" on the signal works in both languages, as does [pictogram] Excepté Autobus, and the orange signs meant for pedestrians could be in Bengali or even blank and it would be understandable; drivers see that they're low down and not meant for them, and pedestrians, since they're moving at 3 mph, see that there's a section physically closed ahead and that's what the sign must be referring to. Green circle meaning mandatory rather than allowed isn't obvious, but that's an all of Canada issue, not a language issue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on December 16, 2022, 12:16:15 PM
That's a new language for me on that sign. Yet it illustrates my point on how Quebec goes out of its way to hate on English.

Meanwhile, in France (the actual home of French):
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.1273383,-1.684728,3a,37.5y,4.54h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxSUvaIetWXFH4oXAZSuBsw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.1273383,-1.684728,3a,37.5y,4.54h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxSUvaIetWXFH4oXAZSuBsw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on December 16, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
Here, Iowa uses "TO I-80 WEST" as an exit tab: https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8 (https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 16, 2022, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on December 16, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
Here, Iowa uses "TO I-80 WEST" as an exit tab: https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8 (https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8)

I don't think that qualifies as an exit tab since it's for the through route.  Please let me know if I'm wrong about this. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on December 16, 2022, 03:29:10 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 16, 2022, 12:16:15 PM
That's a new language for me on that sign. Yet it illustrates my point on how Quebec goes out of its way to hate on English.

There's some long history behind this. The short of it is Quebec very nearly left the country twice and the language issue is a big part of it. Legally speaking, Quebec is hardly bilingual. It's a French province and given that they are basically a French island on an English continent, they feel the need to actively protect it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 16, 2022, 03:50:00 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 16, 2022, 03:21:03 PM

Quote from: kirbykart on December 16, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
Here, Iowa uses "TO I-80 WEST" as an exit tab: https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8 (https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8)

I don't think that qualifies as an exit tab since it's for the through route.  Please let me know if I'm wrong about this. 

It's an exit tab because it's a tab at an exit.

It's not an exit tab because does not communicate the same information as an MUTCD "smaller horizontal rectangular plaque" (Figure 2E-22).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 16, 2022, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 16, 2022, 03:50:00 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 16, 2022, 03:21:03 PM

Quote from: kirbykart on December 16, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
Here, Iowa uses "TO I-80 WEST" as an exit tab: https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8 (https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8)

I don't think that qualifies as an exit tab since it's for the through route.  Please let me know if I'm wrong about this. 

It's an exit tab because it's a tab at an exit.

It's not an exit tab because does not communicate the same information as an MUTCD "smaller horizontal rectangular plaque" (Figure 2E-22).

It is clear.  It both is and isn't an exit tab. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on December 16, 2022, 07:47:42 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 16, 2022, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 16, 2022, 03:50:00 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on December 16, 2022, 03:21:03 PM

Quote from: kirbykart on December 16, 2022, 02:43:53 PM
Here, Iowa uses "TO I-80 WEST" as an exit tab: https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8 (https://goo.gl/maps/7QNi2swx1hZzWQ3B8)

I don't think that qualifies as an exit tab since it's for the through route.  Please let me know if I'm wrong about this. 

It's an exit tab because it's a tab at an exit.

It's not an exit tab because does not communicate the same information as an MUTCD "smaller horizontal rectangular plaque" (Figure 2E-22).

It is clear.  It both is and isn't an exit tab.

OK, you all are now writing Alanland's MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on December 16, 2022, 10:58:40 PM
^It's the Alanland MUGGED.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on December 17, 2022, 02:39:07 AM
Quote from: Amaury on December 13, 2022, 02:38:14 AM
This one is interesting since there is no Interstate 90 Alternate: https://goo.gl/maps/g2sofhJhXgrxn8WX7

Unless they mean it as an alternate way to get to Interstate 90, and they don't mean it like US Route 97 Alternate or Washington State Route 141 Alternate, both of which do exist. Although I don't know why you would go all the way that way to get back on Interstate 90 in either direction when there are entrances and exits right there by Chevron. Coming from that way if you took the earlier exit, I understand, but...

Might be leftover from before the North Bend bypass opened in 1977. Those signs roughly mark out the old route of US 10.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thefraze_1020 on December 17, 2022, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: Bruce on December 17, 2022, 02:39:07 AM
Quote from: Amaury on December 13, 2022, 02:38:14 AM
This one is interesting since there is no Interstate 90 Alternate: https://goo.gl/maps/g2sofhJhXgrxn8WX7

Unless they mean it as an alternate way to get to Interstate 90, and they don't mean it like US Route 97 Alternate or Washington State Route 141 Alternate, both of which do exist. Although I don't know why you would go all the way that way to get back on Interstate 90 in either direction when there are entrances and exits right there by Chevron. Coming from that way if you took the earlier exit, I understand, but...

Might be leftover from before the North Bend bypass opened in 1977. Those signs roughly mark out the old route of US 10.

Disagree, that sign definitely doesn't look like it's 45 years old. Also, this sign is located on the frontage road. Old US 10 and Temp I-90 was on North Bend Way. I think this sign simply was posted by the city of North Bend and refers to a different way to get to I-90, even if it doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on December 18, 2022, 03:43:43 AM
Seattle similarly uses "ALT I-5" (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6185334,-122.3539428,3a,36.4y,106.08h,90.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQqfxYKnYC-4keiCKBDFv6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) to mean "alternate route to I-5", which has always bothered me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on December 18, 2022, 11:27:31 AM
This general problem--signing incident detours so that they are not confused with permanent alternates to the numbered route in question--has actually been the subject of a MUTCD interpretation letter from FHWA issued in 2017 (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/interpretations/6_09_42.htm).  The attachment (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/interpretations/6_09_42_attachment.htm) shows the preferred options first, followed by various permutations FHWA deems unacceptable, including the use of "Alternate" or "Bypass" tabs with regular trailblazers.

I've seen designs substantially similar to FHWA's preferred options from Iowa DOT, and I think Minnesota DOT has added one to its baby SHS, but quite a few agencies haven't gotten with the program.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Stephane Dumas on December 18, 2022, 12:44:25 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 16, 2022, 12:16:15 PM
That's a new language for me on that sign. Yet it illustrates my point on how Quebec goes out of its way to hate on English.

Meanwhile, in France (the actual home of French):
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.1273383,-1.684728,3a,37.5y,4.54h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxSUvaIetWXFH4oXAZSuBsw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.1273383,-1.684728,3a,37.5y,4.54h,89.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxSUvaIetWXFH4oXAZSuBsw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

A bit ironic. :)  Meanwhile elsewhere in the world, interesting to note then Mexico use "Alto" https://goo.gl/maps/XGmUAe3ZXXaJtnvk7 while Argentina use "Pare". https://goo.gl/maps/exJ7e359kwayRCgS8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on December 18, 2022, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Amaury on December 13, 2022, 02:38:14 AM
This one is interesting since there is no Interstate 90 Alternate: https://goo.gl/maps/g2sofhJhXgrxn8WX7

Quote from: jay8g on December 18, 2022, 03:43:43 AM
Seattle similarly uses "ALT I-5" (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6185334,-122.3539428,3a,36.4y,106.08h,90.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQqfxYKnYC-4keiCKBDFv6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) to mean "alternate route to I-5", which has always bothered me.

Related to this is when all the assembly/sign elements are there but in the wrong order, conveying a message other than the one intended.  Example:  I'm not a trucker so these assemblies on I-275 and I-75 north and south of Monroe shouldn't bother me, but they do.  There is no designated M-50 truck route through or around Monroe.  All these assemblies should read TRUCK ROUTE TO M-50.

(https://i.imgur.com/1hMv48V.jpg)

(I don't have a photo, so this is a screen grab from GSV.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 19, 2022, 08:29:17 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/shares/JX8wP9180x
Some interesting signs in Georgia I have found.  One looks like a sign tree in Quitman and the other is way too much overload in Thomasville.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/shares/W75R4e287d
Some more just plain unusual signs from about.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on December 19, 2022, 09:58:24 AM
^The 98/19 one is just stupidity. But many of those examples are pretty common and normal. I literally don't see anything wrong with the FL A1A assembly, apart from that being a dumb number.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on December 19, 2022, 05:54:18 PM
The "West" here is in US route format: https://goo.gl/maps/t2NCvFgpDGVrGsGb6

Instead of interstate format like here: https://goo.gl/maps/XADqzrVaW7Vi1h4P7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 19, 2022, 06:09:18 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 19, 2022, 08:29:17 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/shares/JX8wP9180x
Some interesting signs in Georgia I have found.  One looks like a sign tree in Quitman and the other is way too much overload in Thomasville.

I actually kind of like both of those.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on December 21, 2022, 02:51:25 PM
The hamlet of Cherry Creek, NY (https://goo.gl/maps/V885z311XoydfEFE9) has these beautiful (https://goo.gl/maps/oefPxfHoXzaQVzi18) Helvetica (https://goo.gl/maps/YJK25yeu3Y8iqxd56) welcome signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on December 21, 2022, 03:05:03 PM
Quote from: kirbykartThe hamlet of Cherry Creek, NY has these beautiful Helvetica welcome signs.

Those signs aren't set in Helvetica. No, it's actually worse. They're set in Arial Bold.
X-(
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 21, 2022, 06:32:28 PM
Somewhere deep in the Best of/Worst of Valley, but located alongside a ranch near Albertville, Alabama...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52578576449_00f039bb68_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7bWYa)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on December 21, 2022, 07:37:58 PM
That's a creative way to re-use an exit sign panel and cannibalize random button copy letters off other signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on December 21, 2022, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 21, 2022, 06:32:28 PM
Somewhere deep in the Best of/Worst of Valley, but located alongside a ranch near Albertville, Alabama...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52578576449_00f039bb68_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7bWYa)

I never thought I would see a button copy cRaiG cOuNtY, but that has got to take the cake.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on December 21, 2022, 11:14:14 PM
That to me has to be the most out-of-ordinary kitbashed button copy sign in history. I spot the outline of "EXIT 7" behind the lettering on the bottom part of the sign. I think this used to be a double digit exit panel on a larger scaled sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on December 22, 2022, 12:17:10 PM
All I can say is New Mexico (https://goo.gl/maps/4Z4wsnJdMEJ4kR3s6).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 22, 2022, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 21, 2022, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 21, 2022, 06:32:28 PM
Somewhere deep in the Best of/Worst of Valley, but located alongside a ranch near Albertville, Alabama...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52578576449_00f039bb68_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7bWYa)

I never thought I would see a button copy cRaiG cOuNtY, but that has got to take the cake.

Perhaps, specifically, Gary W. was the person who made and/or approved the Craig County sign???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 22, 2022, 06:16:35 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on December 22, 2022, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on December 21, 2022, 08:15:41 PM
Quote from: formulanone on December 21, 2022, 06:32:28 PM
Somewhere deep in the Best of/Worst of Valley, but located alongside a ranch near Albertville, Alabama...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52578576449_00f039bb68_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7bWYa)

I never thought I would see a button copy cRaiG cOuNtY, but that has got to take the cake.

Perhaps, specifically, Gary W. was the person who made and/or approved the Craig County sign???

My first thought was that Gary Waldrep was the guy who made this sign, but he is apparently a somewhat well known...banjo player?...so it's entirely possible a fan made it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on December 24, 2022, 08:43:40 AM
Quote from: formulanone on December 21, 2022, 06:32:28 PM
Somewhere deep in the Best of/Worst of Valley, but located alongside a ranch near Albertville, Alabama...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52578576449_00f039bb68_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7bWYa)

Makes me wonder if the person is a roadgeek who is aware of the more famous sign others have mentioned.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 24, 2022, 02:24:07 PM
Crossposting this sign from the "General Houston-area Projects" thread...

(https://imgur.com/D2lQWPU.jpg)

For context, it is the sign on the right. Apparently it is regulatory that the crossing must be turned into an interchange at a later date?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on December 24, 2022, 02:58:11 PM
In Texas, yes it's regulatory. If they don't eliminate the grade crossing, they can't make it I-14C!  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 24, 2022, 03:27:31 PM
It's like a Speed Limit ## Ahead sign, except that the "ahead" part is chronological in meaning.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 24, 2022, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 24, 2022, 03:27:31 PM
It's like a Speed Limit ## Ahead sign, except that the "ahead" part is chronological in meaning.

Of course, in the 2009 MUTCD, that's a yellow diamond.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 26, 2022, 09:11:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/XRbsU9WHzmnaSGBN7
The US 22 guide on the mast arm is neat.  Too bad the shields on the support pole are there to take away from it.

This is not so neat nearby.
https://goo.gl/maps/qvLZcsTw7n4a2Rwy8
The EXIT tab is a bit cheesy on the 4th Street ramp from US 22
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 27, 2022, 10:02:31 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/33229955921/in/album-72157672617598176/
An ALT banner of full size within a guide sign US shield.  Even in Georgia this is not even common as they use tiny fonts. This reminds me of the old Esso/ Travelvision maps of how they denoted ALT or BUS inside US Route numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on December 27, 2022, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 27, 2022, 10:02:31 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/33229955921/in/album-72157672617598176/
An ALT banner of full size within a guide sign US shield.  Even in Georgia this is not even common as they use tiny fonts. This reminds me of the old Esso/ Travelvision maps of how they denoted ALT or BUS inside US Route numbers.

That's because the shields on that stretch used to look like this.
(https://i.imgur.com/PriYVdM.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on December 31, 2022, 03:38:13 AM
Saw this comically large Do Not Enter sign on Highway 97 in Oregon a while back. 12ft wide according to the Google Earth measuring tool :D
(https://i.imgur.com/2l0hACF.jpg)
https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9 (https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 31, 2022, 12:00:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/NFYm1a93oEqmQqjw9
I like the US 1 text shield here.


https://goo.gl/maps/mcWWXz2ZpCS7yPDi7
Then the best truck route to Groton is neat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 31, 2022, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on December 31, 2022, 03:38:13 AM
Saw this comically large Do Not Enter sign on Highway 97 in Oregon a while back. 12ft wide according to the Google Earth measuring tool :D
(https://i.imgur.com/2l0hACF.jpg)
https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9 (https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9)

12 ft? Unless that lane is wider than 12 feet then I don't see it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: IowaTraveler on December 31, 2022, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: plain on December 31, 2022, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on December 31, 2022, 03:38:13 AM
Saw this comically large Do Not Enter sign on Highway 97 in Oregon a while back. 12ft wide according to the Google Earth measuring tool :D
(https://i.imgur.com/2l0hACF.jpg)
https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9 (https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9)

12 ft? Unless that lane is wider than 12 feet then I don't see it.

The roadway underneath the sign looks like it's in the process of narrowing from 2 lanes down to 1 lane, so it actually is wider than 12 feet. Using the measuring tool in Google Maps shows that the road directly below the sign is 22 feet wide from the white line to the yellow line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on December 31, 2022, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: IowaTraveler on December 31, 2022, 02:17:17 PM
Quote from: plain on December 31, 2022, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on December 31, 2022, 03:38:13 AM
Saw this comically large Do Not Enter sign on Highway 97 in Oregon a while back. 12ft wide according to the Google Earth measuring tool :D
(https://i.imgur.com/2l0hACF.jpg)
https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9 (https://goo.gl/maps/fEL8pnsoUpSNPp8v9)

12 ft? Unless that lane is wider than 12 feet then I don't see it.

The roadway underneath the sign looks like it's in the process of narrowing from 2 lanes down to 1 lane, so it actually is wider than 12 feet. Using the measuring tool in Google Maps shows that the road directly below the sign is 22 feet wide from the white line to the yellow line.

Oh ok makes sense. Also, I actually didn't see the link under the image before I posted that until now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on December 31, 2022, 03:02:29 PM
The 1-lane road needs to be wider than 12 in order to overtake a stalled vehicle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 02, 2023, 08:05:57 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52601553614/in/dateposted-public/
US 101 SB leaving a Vista Point near Humboldt Redwoods.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 02, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/c7gpwoxcN9Xz28eA6
Connecticut using those arrows on the border is very unattractive as their Welcome Signs.
https://goo.gl/maps/862atd5PmcbyzNvK7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 02, 2023, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 02, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/c7gpwoxcN9Xz28eA6
Connecticut using those arrows on the border is very unattractive as their Welcome Signs.
https://goo.gl/maps/862atd5PmcbyzNvK7
What?  Those are the Parkway signs.  I like them for their uniqueness.  Of course, they're so well-known that they may not even qualify for this thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on January 02, 2023, 08:13:30 PM
From my first bike rides of the year:

Princeton, NJ, for how rich it is, can't afford good looking shields
(https://i.imgur.com/elP1om1.jpg)

Also a mismatch of an arrow color scheme for the most random scenic byway in the U.S., the Upper Freehold Historic Farmland Byway, at a new roundabout
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/CR_539_sb_at_CR_539A_roundabout_%282%29%2C_Jan._2023.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 02, 2023, 08:30:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on January 02, 2023, 08:13:30 PM
Also a mismatch of an arrow color scheme for the most random scenic byway in the U.S., the Upper Freehold Historic Farmland Byway, at a new roundabout
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/CR_539_sb_at_CR_539A_roundabout_%282%29%2C_Jan._2023.jpg)

horse connector
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 02, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
^^^
It would appear the same contractor that produces the infamous Pennsylvania acorns got hired to do those.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 02, 2023, 08:37:56 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 02, 2023, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 02, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/c7gpwoxcN9Xz28eA6
Connecticut using those arrows on the border is very unattractive as their Welcome Signs.
https://goo.gl/maps/862atd5PmcbyzNvK7
What?  Those are the Parkway signs.  I like them for their uniqueness.  Of course, they're so well-known that they may not even qualify for this thread.

Not everyone knows them.

Plus they still look odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 03, 2023, 06:56:38 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on January 02, 2023, 08:13:30 PMAlso a mismatch of an arrow color scheme for the most random scenic byway in the U.S., the Upper Freehold Historic Farmland Byway, at a new roundabout
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/CR_539_sb_at_CR_539A_roundabout_%282%29%2C_Jan._2023.jpg)

I always find unlabeled pictographic routes to be maddingly intriguing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on January 03, 2023, 09:25:42 PM
I wasn't expecting to find this, in Lorain (Ohio), yesterday...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52606167848_6bd9595f97_w.jpg)

Wonder if its older than this sign, that Tim Brown showed us, at the 2020 Cincy Meet
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50178578321_09660223b4_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 04, 2023, 12:42:18 PM
Illinois in Indiana.
https://goo.gl/maps/LxnRQjZhWY9bhwnH7
IN 212 in shield but US 12 in text.  Something IDOT does for WB I-24.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 05, 2023, 01:15:19 PM
Driving home last night and saw a CDOT VMS sign saying the following:

714 TRAFFIC FATALITIES
SO FAR THIS YEAR
DRIVE SAFELY.

Wow, not even 5 full days into 2023, and it's already on pace to be the deadliest year on Colorado Roads!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 05, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Wichita has had one recently that says...

TIS THE SEASON
PLAN AHEAD
DON'T DRIVE DRUNK

(I'm not sure about the third line, actually.)  Anyway, the first time I saw it, my eyes landed on "AHEAD" and immediately thought the VMS was warning me about something to look out for on the highway.  So I stared it for a few seconds, trying to figure out what obstruction was up ahead.  A plane?  No, that doesn't make sense.  Ohhhh, I should have known it was just a nanny message.  Meanwhile, my eyes had been off the road...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 05, 2023, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 05, 2023, 01:15:19 PMDriving home last night and saw a CDOT VMS sign saying the following:

714 TRAFFIC FATALITIES
SO FAR THIS YEAR
DRIVE SAFELY.

Wow, not even 5 full days into 2023, and it's already on pace to be the deadliest year on Colorado Roads!!!

I wonder if they're talking about the United States as a whole.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 05, 2023, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 05, 2023, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 05, 2023, 01:15:19 PMDriving home last night and saw a CDOT VMS sign saying the following:

714 TRAFFIC FATALITIES
SO FAR THIS YEAR
DRIVE SAFELY.

Wow, not even 5 full days into 2023, and it's already on pace to be the deadliest year on Colorado Roads!!!

I wonder if they're talking about the United States as a whole.

No, they were using the 2022 data massage.  It was close to that number on VMS signs a few months ago.  Someone likely forgot to delete that message from the VMS menu, or forgot to switch out "SO FAR THIS YEAR" with "IN 2022."

CDOT doesn't care how bad you drive in other states
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on January 05, 2023, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 05, 2023, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 05, 2023, 04:03:08 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 05, 2023, 01:15:19 PMDriving home last night and saw a CDOT VMS sign saying the following:

714 TRAFFIC FATALITIES
SO FAR THIS YEAR
DRIVE SAFELY.

Wow, not even 5 full days into 2023, and it's already on pace to be the deadliest year on Colorado Roads!!!

I wonder if they're talking about the United States as a whole.

No, they were using the 2022 data massage.  It was close to that number on VMS signs a few months ago.  Someone likely forgot to delete that message from the VMS menu, or forgot to switch out "SO FAR THIS YEAR" with "IN 2022."

CDOT doesn't care how bad you drive in other states

I enjoyed your joke thenetwork.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 06, 2023, 04:25:21 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/1abxUe9GrS2i65C68
This one is bad as the sign is somewhat misleading. The road to the right of the island is not the I-95/ US 1 ramp, but the signs arrows can have a driver at a quick glance think that it is. 
The signs seen in the distance next to the YIELD sign are where the ramp really is.

Awkward situation here that needs a mast arm with lane control arrows.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 09, 2023, 08:54:47 AM
The way these signs are arranged, it seems as though Adopt-a-Highway is a thing of the past.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52617422910_49728c196e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oaC3EJ)We remember Adopt-a-Highway, ON 401 (https://flic.kr/p/2oaC3EJ) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

On a similar subject, and actually related to the sign assembly above, how does one enforce remembering fallen soldiers?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52538075788_12dd444ed5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o3BnwU)We remember our fallen soldiers - ON 401 EB (https://flic.kr/p/2o3BnwU) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 09, 2023, 11:14:40 AM
While I was doing some GSV research on Waycross, Georgia this morning, I stumbled upon this non-MUTCD compliant warning sign on Lee Avenue north of Memorial Drive (US 1 Bus/US 23 Bus/GA 4 Bus);
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.2119341,-82.3539031,3a,75y,17.07h,98.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOU2xJ2IrKrhj0FXMTjVFzA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

This is before that street goes under the CSX Brunswick Subdivision east of Brunswick Junction on the CSX Jesup Subdivision.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on January 09, 2023, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 09, 2023, 08:54:47 AM
The way these signs are arranged, it seems as though Adopt-a-Highway is a thing of the past.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52617422910_49728c196e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oaC3EJ)We remember Adopt-a-Highway, ON 401 (https://flic.kr/p/2oaC3EJ) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

Hahaha!  At least someone remembers when people/businesses would adopt highways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 09, 2023, 12:31:47 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on January 09, 2023, 11:20:42 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 09, 2023, 08:54:47 AM
The way these signs are arranged, it seems as though Adopt-a-Highway is a thing of the past.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52617422910_49728c196e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oaC3EJ)We remember Adopt-a-Highway, ON 401 (https://flic.kr/p/2oaC3EJ) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

Hahaha!  At least someone remembers when people/businesses would adopt highways.
The program still exists in various parts of the U.S., but yeah, a lot of businesses were like, "That's a great idea!...Oh wait, you mean we have to pick up litter more than once?"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 09, 2023, 02:24:27 PM
On the topic of Adopt-A-Road, imagine if AARoads adopted a road. Where would we go?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on January 09, 2023, 02:40:45 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 09, 2023, 02:24:27 PM
On the topic of Adopt-A-Road, imagine if AARoads adopted a road. Where would we go?

We would adopt the H.E. Bailey Turnpike Spur to Norman, OK.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on January 09, 2023, 02:45:14 PM
The H.E. Bailey Spur needs to be completed that last 6 miles to I-35. They just need to build new frontage roads and get it done. There is just enough ROW between the utility easements to build it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 09, 2023, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 09, 2023, 12:31:47 PM
The program still exists in various parts of the U.S., but yeah, a lot of businesses were like, "That's a great idea!...Oh wait, you mean we have to pick up litter more than once?"

Most of the Adopt-A-Highway sections around here are non-profit organizations, like Boy Scout troops, churches, and fraternities/sororities.

I remember when I was in Boy Scouts, we had a lock-in at the church once where we got to stay up all night playing video games, drinking soda, and eating pizza...then at daybreak we had to go out and pick up litter...yeah........

Quote from: kirbykart on January 09, 2023, 02:40:45 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 09, 2023, 02:24:27 PM
On the topic of Adopt-A-Road, imagine if AARoads adopted a road. Where would we go?

We would adopt the H.E. Bailey Turnpike Spur to Norman, OK.

As someone who used to have that on my commute...why? I don't remember it having a whole lot of trash along it. The 80 MPH speed limit is pretty cool, though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 09, 2023, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 09, 2023, 02:24:27 PM
On the topic of Adopt-A-Road, imagine if AARoads adopted a road. Where would we go?

Part of the AA Highway in Kentucky, of course.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 09, 2023, 08:44:28 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 09, 2023, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 09, 2023, 12:31:47 PM
The program still exists in various parts of the U.S., but yeah, a lot of businesses were like, "That's a great idea!...Oh wait, you mean we have to pick up litter more than once?"

Most of the Adopt-A-Highway sections around here are non-profit organizations, like Boy Scout troops, churches, and fraternities/sororities.

I remember when I was in Boy Scouts, we had a lock-in at the church once where we got to stay up all night playing video games, drinking soda, and eating pizza...then at daybreak we had to go out and pick up litter...yeah........

In some states, you sponsor the route so inmates can literally do the dirty work for you.

It's probably a different story in smaller towns; for example, the local church cleans up their half-mile of roadway near my house but asks for volunteers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 10, 2023, 08:31:58 AM
A new building forces a stop sign to be on the far side of an intersection, at least until it gets hooked up to the building itself:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52618987836_fa33a92859.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oaL4Sd)Stop sign on the far end of the intersection (https://flic.kr/p/2oaL4Sd) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 10, 2023, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 09, 2023, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 09, 2023, 12:31:47 PM
The program still exists in various parts of the U.S., but yeah, a lot of businesses were like, "That's a great idea!...Oh wait, you mean we have to pick up litter more than once?"

Most of the Adopt-A-Highway sections around here are non-profit organizations, like Boy Scout troops, churches, and fraternities/sororities.

I remember when I was in Boy Scouts, we had a lock-in at the church once where we got to stay up all night playing video games, drinking soda, and eating pizza...then at daybreak we had to go out and pick up litter...yeah........

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that ~200 km stretch of ON 401 is cleaned up by such non-profit associations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 10, 2023, 10:38:01 PM
I just passed a sign in Aztec, NM (SR- 516)that only says:  DO NOT THROW TRASH


I guess it is okay to just gently drop it on the ground next to you....
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 11, 2023, 09:24:26 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 10, 2023, 10:38:01 PM
I just passed a sign in Aztec, NM (SR- 516)that only says:  DO NOT THROW TRASH

I guess it is okay to just gently drop it on the ground next to you....

This is a common sign in Mexico, although it's of the sort whose use is now deprecated.

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5446824de4b0469c653c7936/1444839075580-CJNSBQA8HIED4RHLJK5C/image-asset.jpeg)

(The first time we drove to Mexico, my wife thought she kept seeing signs that meant "NO TIRE TRASH" in English.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 11, 2023, 03:00:37 PM
Clearly that sign has made a difference.  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on January 13, 2023, 03:00:23 PM
I thought this was strange wording for a construction sign...

(https://imgur.com/N0tlMSo.jpg)
Riverside Dr. @ S John Williams Way, Tulsa, OK
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 13, 2023, 07:53:16 PM
A sign for Montana Secondary Highway 375 at a junction with Montana Highway 2, but from the little research I've done, there is no such highway. Noticed it when I was coming back from my drive to Whitehall back on September 27.

https://goo.gl/maps/WVA3oWnuWgTa5KAX9

https://goo.gl/maps/w7YtpbEW4knoANrX8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on January 13, 2023, 11:35:00 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 13, 2023, 07:53:16 PM
A sign for Montana Secondary Highway 375 at a junction with Montana Highway 2, but from the little research I've done, there is no such highway. Noticed it when I was coming back from my drive to Whitehall back on September 27.


Wiki states that Continental Drive was Secondary 375 until 1993. Those signs are clearly newer than that, and apparently were posted by MDT based off the existence of the decal on the back. I don't think MDT used decals like that in 1993. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_secondary_highways_in_Montana#Sec0375
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 18, 2023, 08:51:38 PM
I have been through Craig, CO well over a dozen times. But I just happened to look up at the right time today for this gem...

This one is vintage, likely over 30 years old.  I believe the reason this one still stands is because the trees on either side of the pole has turned it into a hidden, forgotten assembly:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/uQRj4jEcbMVbT2DV6

 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on January 18, 2023, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 18, 2023, 08:51:38 PM
I have been through Craig, CO well over a dozen times. But I just happened to look up at the right time today for this gem...

This one is vintage, likely over 30 years old.  I believe the reason this one still stands is because the trees on either side of the pole has turned it into a hidden, forgotten assembly:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/uQRj4jEcbMVbT2DV6



Whoa, how have I never seen that? I have also been through Craig, westbound by that sign, probably a dozen times. Makes me wonder what else I've missed right under my nose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 18, 2023, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 18, 2023, 08:55:27 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 18, 2023, 08:51:38 PM
I have been through Craig, CO well over a dozen times. But I just happened to look up at the right time today for this gem...

This one is vintage, likely over 30 years old.  I believe the reason this one still stands is because the trees on either side of the pole has turned it into a hidden, forgotten assembly:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/uQRj4jEcbMVbT2DV6



Whoa, how have I never seen that? I have also been through Craig, westbound by that sign, probably a dozen times. Makes me wonder what else I've missed right under my nose.

Even in the dead of winter with no leaves on the trees, it's still pretty camouflaged!!


https://maps.app.goo.gl/cNnyLBPZDCHTnfjZ7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on January 22, 2023, 08:25:29 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 09, 2023, 02:24:27 PM
On the topic of Adopt-A-Road, imagine if AARoads adopted a road. Where would we go?
All the roads that trigger people. Things like I-238, Breezewood, I-99 and the like.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on January 22, 2023, 07:08:32 PM
When you need a "y" and don't have one in your stock of demountable copy, just cut the top off a "g" instead.

On the Daniel Boone Hal Rogers Parkway eastbound between London and Manchester. The signs originally listed only London and Hazard, but Hyden was added later.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52601257501_8b153e204d_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o9ccfM)2022 road trip photos - 227 (https://flic.kr/p/2o9ccfM) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52601681810_5a53d0a241_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o9enos)2022 road trip photos - 228 (https://flic.kr/p/2o9enos) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 25, 2023, 11:25:26 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/62Saq8ZqS2tyt3BG8
This mileage sign seems to feel the need to post the "mi"  abbreviation for miles instead of the standard numbers only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on January 25, 2023, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 25, 2023, 11:25:26 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/62Saq8ZqS2tyt3BG8
This mileage sign seems to feel the need to post the "mi"  abbreviation for miles instead of the standard numbers only.

I believe there's a sign on NY 12 South approaching NY 49 that lists the next three interchanges with mileage, and "MILE"  is on every line.  There's a newer version that this one.
 
(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/backup/assets/ny8ny12exits.gif) 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 26, 2023, 05:12:19 AM
Quote from: machias on January 25, 2023, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 25, 2023, 11:25:26 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/62Saq8ZqS2tyt3BG8
This mileage sign seems to feel the need to post the "mi"  abbreviation for miles instead of the standard numbers only.

I believe there's a sign on NY 12 South approaching NY 49 that lists the next three interchanges with mileage, and "MILE"  is on every line.  There's a newer version that this one.
 
(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/backup/assets/ny8ny12exits.gif) 

Here's that sign in 2018, so they just carbon copied it...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1769/27971612837_1d25b90a80_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JBKPYR)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 26, 2023, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: formulanone on January 26, 2023, 05:12:19 AM
Quote from: machias on January 25, 2023, 09:53:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 25, 2023, 11:25:26 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/62Saq8ZqS2tyt3BG8
This mileage sign seems to feel the need to post the “mi” abbreviation for miles instead of the standard numbers only.

I believe there’s a sign on NY 12 South approaching NY 49 that lists the next three interchanges with mileage, and “MILE” is on every line.  There’s a newer version that this one.
 
(https://jpnearl.com/upstatenyroads.com/backup/assets/ny8ny12exits.gif) 

Here's that sign in 2018, so they just carbon copied it...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1769/27971612837_1d25b90a80_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JBKPYR)

That is a lazy carbon copy. They could've removed the MILE tags, removed AND from the third line, removed both Jct tags, and increased the size of the W in West (assuming this was done since 2009).

1 1/4 MILES also sounds better than 1 1/4 MILE.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 26, 2023, 08:26:44 AM
Didn't NY post signage in km for a while at one point? I wonder if this sign was immediately before or after one in km.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on January 26, 2023, 10:14:36 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 26, 2023, 08:26:44 AM
Didn't NY post signage in km for a while at one point? I wonder if this sign was immediately before or after one in km.

I'm not sure what year it was (1993 or 1994), but early in the Clinton administration all projects funded by the Department of Transportation projects were required to be done in metric.  The firm I worked with started producing everything in metric for non-DOT funded projects because at any moment our clients might get an infusion of some Federal monies.  Not sure if this made any difference, but about the same time we got a bunch of projects in other countries (all of which used metric).  If I recall correctly, this ended prior to Clinton's second term.

The FHWA still has this posting from 1995:  https://highways.dot.gov/public-roads/summer-1995/metric-conversion-how-soon
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 26, 2023, 01:09:58 PM
I think it's interesting that the older distance sign has state route marker digits in Series D, while the newer one has them in Series F.  Isn't it supposed to be the other way round?

When I first started collecting construction plans in the early noughties, many were in metric, often with special logos in the chopblocks.  But the contractor backlash was already well in progress, so state DOTs started noping out of metric one by one.  The Millennium and 2003 editions of the MUTCD were explicitly designed to be metric-compatible, while the 2009 follows 1988 in using customary units only.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 26, 2023, 03:18:21 PM
Nothing too special, but, for some reason, at this one location, the US 2/US 97 concurrency isn't signed when heading northeast. The concurrency is otherwise perfectly signed everywhere else. They could probably easily add a US 97 shield below the US 2 shield, though: https://goo.gl/maps/4SDcMrairyiZZqVQ7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 27, 2023, 01:45:36 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51525179127/in/photostream
The way the bottom shields faded in the same manor.  I assume it's the salt used on the highway during winter freezes that created this.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51509600516/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51503482372/in/photostream/
Then in both these it's odd, but not impossible if you know the history of K-14 in South Hutchinson, as the K-96 shields posted with the K-14 shields are much more faded.

K-14 was added later to overlap K-96 through South Hutchinson.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 28, 2023, 09:39:48 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/7ZBCmv3FjEmZLzEW6
This traffic signal sign in Salisbury, MD is quite strange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 28, 2023, 10:13:43 AM
A horizontal sign for horizontal signals? I mean... I guess it works...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on January 28, 2023, 01:07:49 PM
I believe something similar to that was posted in 'Alberta Highways' in the Canada board.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on January 28, 2023, 05:41:36 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on January 28, 2023, 01:07:49 PM
I believe something similar to that was posted in 'Alberta Highways' in the Canada board.

I think it was similar to this one in Calgary:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48796109913_372fefabfb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hkWPrT)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 28, 2023, 09:21:15 PM
 ^^ also should the signs account for 4-section signals, 5 section signals and doghouses?  :bigass:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on January 28, 2023, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

I actually really don't like the horizontal version of the sign. Maybe it's just because I'm not used to it, but it just looks off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2023, 12:30:43 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 28, 2023, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

I actually really don't like the horizontal version of the sign. Maybe it's just because I'm not used to it, but it just looks off.

Regardless of whether you like it or not, would you agree that it should reflect the orientation of the light, correct? Especially since horizontal signals are unusual and it may help to provide some warning not just of the approaching signal, but also the unusual orientation.

Quote from: Big John on January 28, 2023, 09:21:15 PM
^^ also should the signs account for 4-section signals, 5 section signals and doghouses?

Of course! There should be a warning sign for each signal. So if there's a three section RYG, five section doghouse, and flashing yellow arrow, there needs to be a warning sign for each on a single gigantic pole. Both sides of the road!

:bigass: (/s)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

What if you're in a place like New Mexico, where 1) horizontal signals are everywhere and 2) you usually get both (https://goo.gl/maps/KmTH9jB2ScpRaFZU9)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on January 30, 2023, 01:08:45 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 30, 2023, 12:30:43 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on January 28, 2023, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

I actually really don't like the horizontal version of the sign. Maybe it's just because I'm not used to it, but it just looks off.

Regardless of whether you like it or not, would you agree that it should reflect the orientation of the light, correct? Especially since horizontal signals are unusual and it may help to provide some warning not just of the approaching signal, but also the unusual orientation.

Quote from: Big John on January 28, 2023, 09:21:15 PM
^^ also should the signs account for 4-section signals, 5 section signals and doghouses?

Of course! There should be a warning sign for each signal. So if there's a three section RYG, five section doghouse, and flashing yellow arrow, there needs to be a warning sign for each on a single gigantic pole. Both sides of the road!

:bigass: (/s)

Akron has a pattern-accurate warning sign for a HAWK (https://goo.gl/maps/Lc8eZggfHNoZktK86) but after the HAWK was changed to a full RYG signal, the sign remained. (https://goo.gl/maps/s2oaJoWDp6ZgY7qZ8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2023, 02:08:13 AM
Quote from: US 89 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

What if you're in a place like New Mexico, where 1) horizontal signals are everywhere and 2) you usually get both (https://goo.gl/maps/KmTH9jB2ScpRaFZU9)?

I would only use the sign in horizontal orientation if more than half of the signals were horizontal. Otherwise the vertical signal sign is more than adequate.

Eg, in parts of Texas, I would personally orient the W3-3 sign 90 degrees anti-clockwise. But since most intersections in NM have at least two vertical signals (one left, one right), I would post the W3-3 sign in its standard orientation.

I suppose I sound rather pedantic, but it's literally the same sign just turned 90 degrees. I don't think it's too much to ask for it to represent the orientation of most of the lights at the intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 02:14:42 AM
I have to agree. Why have a sign literally tell you what signal heads are being used on a guide that is intended to warn you?

As long as a driver gets the message and I don't think they think about it when they see it.  In fact Texas uses the norm despite they have many horizontal signals. I've seen the ones in Marshall along US 59 that are standard signs on a green guide with horizontal installs as the signal.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/48519836552/in/album-72157709079979562/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on January 30, 2023, 04:04:17 AM
This is the sign used in Japan:

(https://traffic-rules.com/img/asia/jp/signs/warning/warning-traffic-lights.png)

It's not totally outrageous for the warning signs to reflect the nature of the signals, especially if it's a simple 90 degree turn.

Still, should it always reflect the signal orientation? No, I think it's useful in areas where it's abnormal. Eg, horizontal in a sea of verticals, or vertical in a sea of horizontal. But if the vast majority of signals are horizontal (eg, Japan), I think the signal warning sign should be horizontal normally.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 30, 2023, 10:42:51 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on January 02, 2023, 08:13:30 PM
From my first bike rides of the year:

Princeton, NJ, for how rich it is, can't afford good looking shields
(https://i.imgur.com/elP1om1.jpg)

Also a mismatch of an arrow color scheme for the most random scenic byway in the U.S., the Upper Freehold Historic Farmland Byway, at a new roundabout
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/CR_539_sb_at_CR_539A_roundabout_%282%29%2C_Jan._2023.jpg)
Somehow, I don't think good roads matter to the people of Princeton. Were they not the ones who lobbied for the cancellation of the Somerset Freeway, creating the long infamous "Trenton Gap" on I-95? As for the Upper Freehold Historic Byway, I suspect that the reason for the blue sign with the yellow arrow is a way to indicate that the byway is a county road.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 30, 2023, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 30, 2023, 04:04:17 AM
This is the sign used in Japan:

(https://traffic-rules.com/img/asia/jp/signs/warning/warning-traffic-lights.png)

It's not totally outrageous for the warning signs to reflect the nature of the signals, especially if it's a simple 90 degree turn.

Still, should it always reflect the signal orientation? No, I think it's useful in areas where it's abnormal. Eg, horizontal in a sea of verticals, or vertical in a sea of horizontal. But if the vast majority of signals are horizontal (eg, Japan), I think the signal warning sign should be horizontal normally.

I think I agree with you here. And you can somewhat read into Section 2A of the MUTCD regulations (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009r1r2/part2/part2a.htm) regarding sign design that this rotation potentially could be allowed:
Quote from: MUTCD
Section 2A.06 Design of Signs
<...>
Standard:
06 The term legend shall include all word messages and symbol and arrow designs that are intended to convey specific meanings.

07 Uniformity in design shall include shape, color, dimensions, legends, borders, and illumination or retroreflectivity.

08 Standardization of these designs does not preclude further improvement by minor changes in the proportion or orientation of symbols, width of borders, or layout of word messages, but all shapes and colors shall be as indicated.

09 All symbols shall be unmistakably similar to, or mirror images of, the adopted symbol signs, all of which are shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book (see Section 1A.11). Symbols and colors shall not be modified unless otherwise provided in this Manual. All symbols and colors for signs not shown in the "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book shall follow the procedures for experimentation and change described in Section 1A.10.

Option:
10 Although the standard design of symbol signs cannot be modified, the orientation of the symbol may be changed to better reflect the direction of travel, if appropriate.

The manual appears to allow for minor rotations of a symbol and for mirror images of existing symbols (I see this employed most frequently with pedestrian signs mounted on the left side of the road, where the walking man symbol is mirrored), and allows orientation to change for direction of travel.

The exact context of a 90° rotation would not seem to be supported directly in the manual text. However, given that the symbol is still the same, I'd think this application would pass muster. This also appears to be supported by Interpretation 2-564(I)-Orientation of Airport Symbol (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/resources/interpretations/2_564.htm) from 2005, which allowed the airport symbol sign used as a trailblazer to be rotated 90° in conjunction with a left/right arrow sign where signing a turn was needed to reach the airport destination. That interpretation states "the MUTCD provides the flexibility for State and local agencies to change the orientation of symbols or the layout of word messages."

EDIT: Clarified a parenthetical
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 10:47:06 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52660352768/in/photostream/
Onto another oddity is the fact that one lane of I-5 in Redding, CA is OK for trucks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 31, 2023, 07:05:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 10:47:06 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52660352768/in/photostream/
Onto another oddity is the fact that one lane of I-5 in Redding, CA is OK for trucks.
Hm.  Wonder if that's just saying that the center lane is also okay in addition to the right lane for trucks when there's a left lane prohibition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 31, 2023, 07:39:37 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 31, 2023, 07:05:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 10:47:06 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52660352768/in/photostream/
Onto another oddity is the fact that one lane of I-5 in Redding, CA is OK for trucks.
Hm.  Wonder if that's just saying that the center lane is also okay in addition to the right lane for trucks when there's a left lane prohibition.

A little after that overpass is one that says trucks have to be in the right lane only and the SB direction has the same trucks OK sign
https://goo.gl/maps/iDoub7Y5pt9KLBV3A

The overpass in the flicker photo also has a trucks right only sign in the opposite direction.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 31, 2023, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 31, 2023, 07:39:37 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 31, 2023, 07:05:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 10:47:06 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52660352768/in/photostream/
Onto another oddity is the fact that one lane of I-5 in Redding, CA is OK for trucks.
Hm.  Wonder if that's just saying that the center lane is also okay in addition to the right lane for trucks when there's a left lane prohibition.

A little after that overpass is one that says trucks have to be in the right lane only and the SB direction has the same trucks OK sign
https://goo.gl/maps/iDoub7Y5pt9KLBV3A

The overpass in the flicker photo also has a trucks right only sign in the opposite direction.

I seem to recall that California has some blanket provision of law where trucks are limited to the right lane or a certain number of right-hand lanes on multi-lane freeways unless otherwise signed. So you will occasionally see "TRUCKS OK" signage in situations where keeping trucks far to the right might not be advantageous or practical (e.g. approaching a system interchange where maybe the right three lanes will exit but trucks wouldn't normally be allowed in a lane far enough left to avoid exiting). I'll leave it to the California-based members to chime in here to correct me if I'm wrong or provide the specifics.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 31, 2023, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 31, 2023, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 31, 2023, 07:39:37 AM
Quote from: Rothman on January 31, 2023, 07:05:07 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 10:47:06 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52660352768/in/photostream/
Onto another oddity is the fact that one lane of I-5 in Redding, CA is OK for trucks.
Hm.  Wonder if that's just saying that the center lane is also okay in addition to the right lane for trucks when there's a left lane prohibition.

A little after that overpass is one that says trucks have to be in the right lane only and the SB direction has the same trucks OK sign
https://goo.gl/maps/iDoub7Y5pt9KLBV3A

The overpass in the flicker photo also has a trucks right only sign in the opposite direction.

I seem to recall that California has some blanket provision of law where trucks are limited to the right lane or a certain number of right-hand lanes on multi-lane freeways unless otherwise signed. So you will occasionally see "TRUCKS OK" signage in situations where keeping trucks far to the right might not be advantageous or practical (e.g. approaching a system interchange where maybe the right three lanes will exit but trucks wouldn't normally be allowed in a lane far enough left to avoid exiting). I'll leave it to the California-based members to chime in here to correct me if I'm wrong or provide the specifics.

You're correct. On highways of less than 3 lanes in one direction, trucks must stay in the right lane except to pass or make a left turn. On highways of 4 or more lanes in one direction, trucks must stay in the right two lanes. Vehicle Code sec. 21655.

That being said, I see trucks in the number two lane all the time on freeways, and occasionally, even in the number one lane. As you pointed out, it becomes particularly more noticeable near interchanges, where trucks on the through route will move way left and out of their designated lanes in order to avoid slowdowns on the right from the interchange traffic. Lax enforcement has become the norm here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on January 31, 2023, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 30, 2023, 10:47:06 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52660352768/in/photostream/
Onto another oddity is the fact that one lane of I-5 in Redding, CA is OK for trucks.

If you look at the yellow sign in the background, it tells through traffic to use the left two lanes for the next two miles. The next two exits are spaced close together with an on ramp and subsequent off ramp not spaced far enough apart per current design standards. And one of exits has a partial cloverleaf. I would presume these two exits cause a lot of slowing, so the sign for the trucks is giving trucks permission to travel in the number 2 lane rather than follow the law that would usually only allow trucks to use the number 2 lane for passing on a three-lane freeway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 31, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
Interstate 205's milage and exit numbers don't reset when entering Washington (northbound) or Oregon (southbound).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 01, 2023, 09:09:00 AM
Interesting.  Heading westbound on Interstate 10, the first exit in California is E. Hobson Way, Exit 242 (https://goo.gl/maps/rcJ5WL6WdytUnzKw7), but the gore sign downstream is Exit 243 (https://goo.gl/maps/W9E7pAhx3S7bxjF79).  Added to this, the road is actually Hobsonway and is also Business Loop 10 that the interstate completly ignores. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on February 01, 2023, 06:17:34 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 26, 2023, 01:09:58 PM
I think it's interesting that the older distance sign has state route marker digits in Series D, while the newer one has them in Series F.  Isn't it supposed to be the other way round?


It is suppose to be the other way around. I don't know what happened with the original sign, but quite a few signs in that area from that era (1988 or 1989) had series D numerals on the wider shields and it always looked weird.

The newer sign is from the very end of the use of Series F.  Although NYSDOT R2 can still be a little uneven with the numerals in shields, I've noticed both Series D and Series E in the later installations (though I haven't been in the area in quite a while).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Amaury on January 31, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
Interstate 205's milage and exit numbers don't reset when entering Washington (northbound) or Oregon (southbound).

The 3dis that reset mile markers at state lines are the exception, not the rule.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on February 02, 2023, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Amaury on January 31, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
Interstate 205's milage and exit numbers don't reset when entering Washington (northbound) or Oregon (southbound).

The 3dis that reset mile markers at state lines are the exception, not the rule.

The only one I know of is I-470 in OH/WV.  I think it's confusing for motorists.  It's only about 10 miles long, so the sequence of exits (going east) is 3,6,1,2.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on February 02, 2023, 03:44:37 PM
I-295 in Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania does as well (though exits aren't numbered in DE).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 02, 2023, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: frankenroad on February 02, 2023, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Amaury on January 31, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
Interstate 205's milage and exit numbers don't reset when entering Washington (northbound) or Oregon (southbound).

The 3dis that reset mile markers at state lines are the exception, not the rule.

The only one I know of is I-470 in OH/WV.  I think it's confusing for motorists.  It's only about 10 miles long, so the sequence of exits (going east) is 3,6,1,2.

Do what Washington does on I-205, where the numbers are continued from Oregon having one set in the Portland- Vancouver area.

Massachusetts does not do the same sadly on I-295. One exit in that state it has and could easily sign that one as a continuation of Rhode Island's numbering
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on February 03, 2023, 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: frankenroad on February 02, 2023, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:20:18 AM
Quote from: Amaury on January 31, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
Interstate 205's milage and exit numbers don't reset when entering Washington (northbound) or Oregon (southbound).

The 3dis that reset mile markers at state lines are the exception, not the rule.

The only one I know of is I-470 in OH/WV.  I think it's confusing for motorists.  It's only about 10 miles long, so the sequence of exits (going east) is 3,6,1,2.

Interstate 270 around St. Louis.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 04, 2023, 05:13:55 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).

Pretty sure there used to be one of those (also erroneously) in Sacramento from I-5 S to the Cap City/Business 80 Freeway, but I can't seem to find it on Google Maps. It's been replaced since, naturally.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on February 04, 2023, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on February 04, 2023, 05:13:55 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).

Pretty sure there used to be one of those (also erroneously) in Sacramento from I-5 S to the Cap City/Business 80 Freeway, but I can't seem to find it on Google Maps. It's been replaced since, naturally.

Springfield OH has them
https://goo.gl/maps/dfRaKzZ96VEhNsHW7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 05, 2023, 11:40:07 AM
A couple unique (to me) signs on my road trip to Bay City a couple days ago.

Post-mounted two-lane pull through on the I-475 connector tramp to M-54 in Flint:
(https://i.imgur.com/y25hEcK.jpg)

Truth in advertising on a side road from M-54/M-83 east of Birch Run:
(https://i.imgur.com/aurmRIC.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on February 05, 2023, 12:40:59 PM
I think Clearview Highway is okay for highway signs. But the artificially squeezed lettering on that "Deteriorating Road" sign really sucks. They might as well have set the type in Arial if they were going to squeeze it like that. Then it could match any of the stupid looking commercial signs all over the landscape with squeezed and stretched Arial crap type.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 05, 2023, 01:10:59 PM
^^ MUTCD has a "ROUGH ROAD" sign for that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 05, 2023, 01:30:22 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on February 05, 2023, 12:40:59 PM
I think Clearview Highway is okay for highway signs. But the artificially squeezed lettering on that "Deteriorating Road" sign really sucks. They might as well have set the type in Arial if they were going to squeeze it like that. Then it could match any of the stupid looking commercial signs all over the landscape with squeezed and stretched Arial crap type.
Reminds me of "Congested Area" signs.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on February 05, 2023, 05:15:19 PM
"ROUGH ROAD" would definitely function far better on that diamond shaped sign.

I've said this before in other discussion threads, but I think the FHWA and AASHTO should go back to the drawing board to develop more modern digital typefaces for highway signs. The Series Gothic fonts are laughably primitive compared to the current standards bar for new commercially sold typefaces. Clearview Highway is a little better, but still misses the mark when it comes to certain character set features people expect to see in professional level type families they buy.

Any new, commercially sold "work horse" type family introduced these days will be expected to have many individual styles, with each font file carrying a pretty wide character set. More type family packages are including OpenType Variable fonts. The Latin alphabet is expected to have its character set cover the Americas and much of Europe. The font file might include Greek and Cyrillic alphabets. Alternate characters and ligatures (glyphs with two or three letters joined together) are increasingly popular. I like fonts that include true native small capitals. Real small capitals look vastly superior to phony simulated small capitals -like what we see on the cardinal directions of many new highway signs. It's interesting that Clearview Highway has no native small caps character set. But the similar Clearview One type family does. A variable font with just a weight axis can gracefully fake a large cap-small cap treatment even if the typeface doesn't have a native small caps character set.

The thing that really pisses me off when I see commercial signs littered with artificially squeezed and stretched type (often set in default Arial) is the designers had far better alternatives available and didn't give a damn about using those tools that were available. OpenType Variable fonts have been around for several years now. Some are available for free via sites like Google Fonts. A decent number of these variable fonts have variable axes for weight and width. A variable typeface with multiple axes can fit text objects far more gracefully into a confined space than a limited "static" font such as Arial. Unfortunately Arial is near the top of the font menu, making it faster to select for any lazy fake designer. And Arial is often the default typeface in many applications. So the hacks just go with Arial in auto-pilot fashion and force-cram it into any given space. They're taking a visual shit on the commercial landscape and giving anti-signs people more and more ammunition to launch a Draconian level anti-signs ordinance.

I've been working in the sign industry for quite a while. I believe I have a sort of civic responsibility to at least do a decent job with the things I design. I'm probably as harsh a sign critic as anyone -particularly since I can look at a badly designed sign and quickly take apart what the hack did to get there. If I "phone it in" on some project chances are that finished sign will be standing there on the landscape for years on end reminding me every time I drive past it that I didn't do a good job. I think I would rather be proud of my work than ashamed of it. The sad thing is there is a legion of people working in the sign industry that just do not give the first f*** about how the finished product looks. So I expect the number of sweeping anti-signs ordinances to continue to grow across the country.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 05, 2023, 06:35:21 PM
I'm not really sure where the random Clearview hate is coming from, considering that the "DETERIORATING ROAD" sign is actually FHWA Series D compressed to B width.

And once again, I will keep saying the thing you just will not read, Bobby: FHWA does not and has never produced font files, they just produce glyphs that they distribute in a PDF. Before PDFs existed, you got geometric diagrams that laid out the length and radius of each line segment and arc. Commercial type foundries (and AARoads forum members) are the ones that make the TTF/OTF files. If they're not including fancy OpenType features in them, it's because they feel like there's no market for them.

Given that there's a perceived gap in the market and you can download the PDF just as well as anyone else, why haven't you made an OTF with all the fancy features you want?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on February 05, 2023, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114I'm not really sure where the random Clearview hate is coming from, considering that the "DETERIORATING ROAD" sign is actually FHWA Series D compressed to B width.

At first glance I thought it was squeezed Clearview. But even if it is artificially squeezed Series Gothic it is still a very ugly sign fail.

Quote from: Scott5114And once again, I will keep saying the thing you just will not read, Bobby: FHWA does not and has never produced font files, they just produce glyphs that they distribute in a PDF.

Well, the FHWA is doing a very half-assed job at mandating a type standard for highway signs. If they want to design the glyphs then they need to pull up their big boy pants and work on the metrics (spacing) as well. Otherwise they're doing a very lame karaoke attempt at designing typefaces.

Drawing the glyphs of a typeface is around one third of the job (which kind of explains why they're not bothering with the heavier lifting portions). The metrics (tracking, kerning, line spacing, etc) is every bit as important as the glyph drawing. And even with the glyph drawing they're phoning it in, doing the extreme bare minimum via the barely basic character sets. The stuff they're outputting would be on average with what you can download from a free fonts site like dafont.com. It's nothing to brag about.

Quote from: Scott5114Given that there's a perceived gap in the market and you can download the PDF just as well as anyone else, why haven't you made an OTF with all the fancy features you want?

Because I have my own day job and other shit I have to do for a living. And even if I devoted hundreds of hours of my own free time to do a proper OTF job on highway fonts, chances are 99.99% the finished fonts would never be used in the field, making the entire effort a giant waste of time. And even if they were used they would likely be taken without any credit (or pay). Screw that bullshit.

If I was to design my own proper highway signs typeface from scratch, featuring a proper modern character set and maybe even variable versions, I sure wouldn't be giving it away for free. I'd be selling it through MyFonts, Fonts.com, etc. The larger question is: is there really a viable market for such a thing outside of highway sign use? I'm thinking: NO. It's not worth the effort.

Nevertheless, the current highway signs fonts in use are pretty limited. And they really really SUCK out loud when hack fake designers distort the hell out of them to squeeze some ridiculously long legend into a cramped space.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 06, 2023, 03:15:13 AM
Not complaining, but it's odd to see the Route shield after the road name.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52669159490/in/photostream/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 06, 2023, 03:57:33 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 06, 2023, 03:15:13 AM
Not complaining, but it's odd to see the Route shield after the road name.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52669159490/in/photostream/

It's not odd to see in California  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 05:53:39 AM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on February 05, 2023, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114And once again, I will keep saying the thing you just will not read, Bobby: FHWA does not and has never produced font files, they just produce glyphs that they distribute in a PDF.

Well, the FHWA is doing a very half-assed job at mandating a type standard for highway signs. If they want to design the glyphs then they need to pull up their big boy pants and work on the metrics (spacing) as well. Otherwise they're doing a very lame karaoke attempt at designing typefaces.

You mean these metrics? You can make a font from them; two people on this forum have. The default Series EM kerning table could use some adjustment (I usually rekern by hand to taste) but the metrics do exist.

Quote from: Bobby5280 on February 05, 2023, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114Given that there's a perceived gap in the market and you can download the PDF just as well as anyone else, why haven't you made an OTF with all the fancy features you want?

Because I have my own day job and other shit I have to do for a living. And even if I devoted hundreds of hours of my own free time to do a proper OTF job on highway fonts, chances are 99.99% the finished fonts would never be used in the field, making the entire effort a giant waste of time. And even if they were used they would likely be taken without any credit (or pay). Screw that bullshit.

If I was to design my own proper highway signs typeface from scratch, featuring a proper modern character set and maybe even variable versions, I sure wouldn't be giving it away for free. I'd be selling it through MyFonts, Fonts.com, etc. The larger question is: is there really a viable market for such a thing outside of highway sign use? I'm thinking: NO. It's not worth the effort.

Nevertheless, the current highway signs fonts in use are pretty limited. And they really really SUCK out loud when hack fake designers distort the hell out of them to squeeze some ridiculously long legend into a cramped space.

Sounds like it would be a big time and financial drain without much benefit. Doesn't that kind of explain why the OTFs with all the bells and whistles you want don't exist?

FHWA is not a type foundry. They aren't trying to be. Their goal is to just make all of the signs in the country have the same glyphs on them so they have a baseline for legibility. That's it.

There's a really good reason there isn't an OTF blessed by FHWA. If they put together an OTF themselves, it would deprive all of the type foundries of being able to sell their implementations of the FHWA Series fonts. I don't think that's a really important concern myself, but if I was FHWA I sure wouldn't want to deal with all the whiny capitalists bitching about it. And if they blessed a specific foundry's existing implementation of the fonts, that would open them up to profiteering by raising the price to astronomical levels, the same way Meeker and Associates did with Clearview. With the way FHWA does it now, you can either buy one of the many competing pre-existing commercial versions of the font, or if you find the prices are not reasonable, you can roll your own. This is probably the best-case scenario politically.

You know as well as I do you can have an font that has literally every feature the OTF specification supports crammed into it and some shit-for-brains mouse jockey will stretch it out. That's not a software problem, that's a management problem. It already says in the MUTCD that's not compliant. So how is it happening? Someone in management isn't holding the designers accountable and letting the signs go out the door like that. That's all it boils down to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 06, 2023, 06:34:11 AM
I think we're really going to need a Unicode FWHA font with many more glyphs in the future, because demand will increase for them as an increasing amount of signage goes multi-lingual for a variety of reasons. Even if it's just for names of bridges and memorial parks, there's going to be an accuracy that is not just culturally significant but also financially accurate if performed correctly the first time.

Why this hasn't happened yet is a head scratcher, but organizational preparation is now a idea, rather than a practice, if a concept can't meet both sides of an accounting ledger. I get that creating 5000+ CJK glyphs is going to be a monumental task, let alone thousands more obscure or even disused symbols which may never see the light of day, but it has to start somewhere...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 07:06:01 AM
Except:
Quote from: 2009 MUTCD, Section 2A.13
Word messages should not contain periods, apostrophes, question marks, ampersands, or other punctuation or characters that are not letters, numerals, or hyphens unless necessary to avoid confusion.

It's questionable (and culturally sensitive) if diacritics like accents and tildes count as "punctuation" or as integral parts of "letters". But the vast majority of Unicode code points are unquestionably not letters, numerals, or hyphens. Thus it would be kind of a waste of money to pay someone to draw all those glyphs (square root symbol? astrological signs? present-weather symbols?) up if best engineering practice prohibits using them. That engineering judgement would have to change to justify the expense, and I don't see why it would.

We may get to the point that it becomes necessary to include non-Latin characters on official traffic control devices. But I don't think that time is now. The vast majority of non-English-speaking people in this country speak a language that is written with the Latin alphabet, primarily Spanish. You can shim Spanish support into the MUTCD just by explicitly allowing accents and tildes and adding a grand total of 12 glyphs to the alphabet (Á, É, Í, Ã", Ú, Ã', and the lowercase of the same).

If we get to the point that we really need support for a non-Latin character set, we can probably just use an existing font in the appropriate character set. I'm as big of a font nerd as they come, and I can't tell fonts in CJK languages apart because they don't use the same design principles as Latin characters do. It would be a little easier to tell whether Greek and Cyrillic fonts are mismatched with Latin, but I really don't see us getting an explosion of Greek speakers in this country any time soon, and if we're getting inundated with Russian/Ukrainian speakers we probably have something way more important to be dealing with than road sign fonts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on February 07, 2023, 04:57:28 AM
The recent widening of an offramp in Richmond from I-95 to VA 161 has led to this:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1zpooNoZiA1u3dvK7

Instead of NORTH & SOUTH, it's NB & SB. The sign at the gore itself is currently ground mounted but I suspect the new overhead there will say the same thing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 07, 2023, 05:18:26 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 06, 2023, 07:06:01 AM
If we get to the point that we really need support for a non-Latin character set, we can probably just use an existing font in the appropriate character set.

I think support for additional characters (accent marks, etc) are almost a certainty. Even the military has started allowing them on nametapes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on February 07, 2023, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: Scott5114There's a really good reason there isn't an OTF blessed by FHWA. If they put together an OTF themselves, it would deprive all of the type foundries of being able to sell their implementations of the FHWA Series fonts. I don't think that's a really important concern myself, but if I was FHWA I sure wouldn't want to deal with all the whiny capitalists bitching about it.

I don't think that's really a problem, not when so many flavors of "Highway Gothic" vary noticeably both in terms of glyph design and metrics.

Quote from: Scott5114And if they blessed a specific foundry's existing implementation of the fonts, that would open them up to profiteering by raising the price to astronomical levels, the same way Meeker and Associates did with Clearview.

They have other alternatives. There is a pretty big market in open source typefaces. If I was calling the shots at the FHWA I would try partnering up with Google to modernize the Series Gothic typeface to make it more properly functional. Google is already well known for its Maps, Earth and Street View applications. Google also does a great deal of work on typefaces. Google Fonts is the biggest outlet of open source variable fonts. It only seems natural to me that Google could be a potential good partner on such an effort. FWIW, Google does have a typeface called "Overpass" that seems like an imitation of Highway Gothic or Interstate. It even has a variable weight axis. It's not a substitute for Series Gothic though. Still, it's interesting they do have such a typeface in their collection already.

Quote from: Scott5114You know as well as I do you can have an font that has literally every feature the OTF specification supports crammed into it and some shit-for-brains mouse jockey will stretch it out.

That's no justification for keeping a typeface primitive. If the FHWA is going to mandate features such as cardinal directions being in all caps, but with a larger first letter, then the fonts being used need a real native small caps character set. Faked small capitals look unprofessional as hell.

The rules against diacritical marks are outdated and arguably hypocritical. A lowercase "i" or "j" has a dot above the main stroke. Those dots shouldn't have any higher ranking than other accent marks like a grave, acute, tilde, diaresis, etc. 40 years ago when button copy signs were still common the letters had to be positioned on the sign panel one by one. Back then banning diacritical marks from lettering would have made sense. Now all the graphics are getting cut by vinyl plotters or the entire sign face is getting printed in one sweeping pass. The process is far easier and faster now.

Letter spacing for highway typefaces is deliberately loose, so there isn't any need for ligatures such as "fl," "ffl" etc. Likewise there's little need for a bunch of alternate glyphs such as a letter "a" with both double-story and single-story versions.

Variable fonts that have weight and width axes can more gracefully overcome space limitations on a sign blank without the lettering looking stupid as all hell. But, yeah, the mouse jockey actually has to turn on his brain to actually use those features.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 07, 2023, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

What if you're in a place like New Mexico, where 1) horizontal signals are everywhere and 2) you usually get both (https://goo.gl/maps/KmTH9jB2ScpRaFZU9)?

Is New Mexico also one of the only places that uses center-mounted 5-aspect signals?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 07, 2023, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 07, 2023, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

What if you're in a place like New Mexico, where 1) horizontal signals are everywhere and 2) you usually get both (https://goo.gl/maps/KmTH9jB2ScpRaFZU9)?

Is New Mexico also one of the only places that uses center-mounted 5-aspect signals?

I think they are also common in parts of Illinois and Arizona. Definitely Wisconsin too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 07, 2023, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2023, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 07, 2023, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

What if you're in a place like New Mexico, where 1) horizontal signals are everywhere and 2) you usually get both (https://goo.gl/maps/KmTH9jB2ScpRaFZU9)?

Is New Mexico also one of the only places that uses center-mounted 5-aspect signals?

I think they are also common in parts of Illinois and Arizona. Definitely Wisconsin too.

So it's a flat state thing?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 07, 2023, 07:11:33 PM
New Mexico and Arizona are definitely not flat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 07, 2023, 07:23:34 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 07, 2023, 07:11:33 PM
New Mexico and Arizona are definitely not flat.

Illinois and Wisconsin, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 07, 2023, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on February 07, 2023, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 07, 2023, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 07, 2023, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: US 89 on January 30, 2023, 12:41:30 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 28, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Just me, or should the sign always reflect the orientation? If the signal is vertical, the sign should show a vertical signal. A horizontal signal should have a horizontal signal on the sign, diagonal signal a diagonal sign, etc...

What if you're in a place like New Mexico, where 1) horizontal signals are everywhere and 2) you usually get both (https://goo.gl/maps/KmTH9jB2ScpRaFZU9)?

Is New Mexico also one of the only places that uses center-mounted 5-aspect signals?

I think they are also common in parts of Illinois and Arizona. Definitely Wisconsin too.

So it's a flat state thing?

I mean, Florida's the flattest of them all, and as far as I know, you'd be hard pressed to find one of those in the Sunshine State.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 07, 2023, 08:13:55 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/ZCac4RjqsmefNan36
I find it odd that New York is used opposite Merrick for NY 27 on the Meadowbrook Parkway. You figure Freeport or Rockville Centre would be better suited as a control city.
https://goo.gl/maps/D8t7CV7cQr3BhVfV8

Merrick is directly to the east while New York is further away WB.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on February 08, 2023, 07:52:47 AM
New York is also the largest city in the nation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 10, 2023, 04:34:24 PM
This (https://goo.gl/maps/YCRcfiN6oGDECUNi9) state route sign in Vermont using what I'm pretty sure is FHWA Series E.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 10, 2023, 05:46:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/xshaQCLumZZcu9n2A
US 9W has a black border even though US 6 and 202 have standard shields.

Plus the lack of a SOUTH banner for the Palisades Parkway along with using New Jersey over New York City as its control city is odd. The Parkway ends at the GWB into NYC, that would make better sense.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 10, 2023, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 10, 2023, 05:46:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/xshaQCLumZZcu9n2A
US 9W has a black border even though US 6 and 202 have standard shields.

Plus the lack of a SOUTH banner for the Palisades Parkway along with using New Jersey over New York City as its control city is odd. The Parkway ends at the GWB into NYC, that would make better sense.

Also of note is the "BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE" inside the NY state route shield silhouette.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Caps81943 on February 10, 2023, 08:23:57 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3611276,-90.0631156,3a,46.5y,216.17h,89.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_ulLVSBaJwSyRbXJIKIHjQ!2e0!5s20210201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

This seems highly...NOT ALLOWED...but interesting nonetheless in the NOLA area

Using former railroad beacons, still with the crossbucks, to beacon a 4-way stop
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 10, 2023, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Caps81943 on February 10, 2023, 08:23:57 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3611276,-90.0631156,3a,46.5y,216.17h,89.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_ulLVSBaJwSyRbXJIKIHjQ!2e0!5s20210201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

This seems highly...NOT ALLOWED...but interesting nonetheless in the NOLA area

Using former railroad beacons, still with the crossbucks, to beacon a 4-way stop

Wouldn't be the first repurposing of a RR beacon:

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on August 08, 2021, 01:45:15 PM
Not exactly a road sign, but this is a good way to recycle a old railroad crossing signal into a trail crossing signal.
https://goo.gl/maps/QZGjahqPtgAep7eJ8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on February 11, 2023, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: Caps81943 on February 10, 2023, 08:23:57 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3611276,-90.0631156,3a,46.5y,216.17h,89.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_ulLVSBaJwSyRbXJIKIHjQ!2e0!5s20210201T000000!7i16384!8i8192

This seems highly...NOT ALLOWED...but interesting nonetheless in the NOLA area

Using former railroad beacons, still with the crossbucks, to beacon a 4-way stop
Using an all way stop on a trail crossing, no less :banghead:

Interestingly Street View shows they were only reactivated sometime between 2011 and 2016, as part of some minor trail work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on February 12, 2023, 02:31:07 AM
Left lane ends, move left (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5714141,-122.3632691,3a,34.8y,101.23h,97.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIACGEsa41TxW5ez2VUIX-g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)?  :confused:

I suppose this is technically sort of correct since there's a center lane merge condition ahead, but still, this is absolutely not the correct way for anything to be signed.

I could go on and on about all of the trash signage installed as part of the West Seattle Bridge repair project, much of which replaced far superior existing signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5711968,-122.356868,3a,75y,278.42h,87.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH8yswH4o7aCLa6bCdETuSQ!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) seemingly just because there was money to burn, but this one goes beyond amateurish design errors and into the category of things that could well do more harm than good by confusing people heading into what's already an unusual situation (this is one of a very small number of center-lane merges in the whole state).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 12, 2023, 05:33:09 AM
Quote from: jay8g on February 12, 2023, 02:31:07 AM
Left lane ends, move left (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5714141,-122.3632691,3a,34.8y,101.23h,97.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIACGEsa41TxW5ez2VUIX-g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)?  :confused:

I suppose this is technically sort of correct since there's a center lane merge condition ahead, but still, this is absolutely not the correct way for anything to be signed.

I could go on and on about all of the trash signage installed as part of the West Seattle Bridge repair project, much of which replaced far superior existing signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5711968,-122.356868,3a,75y,278.42h,87.05t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH8yswH4o7aCLa6bCdETuSQ!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en) seemingly just because there was money to burn, but this one goes beyond amateurish design errors and into the category of things that could well do more harm than good by confusing people heading into what's already an unusual situation (this is one of a very small number of center-lane merges in the whole state).

I can only think of one other center merge, southbound 405 coming out of Bellevue, where the HOV lane comes in from SE 8th and maintains itself on the right, with the GP lane merging into traffic (Google Maps (https://goo.gl/maps/afi1Y9rALUhgtG6d7)). From what I can tell, there is no signage, which I think may be preferable. After all, the ideal situation should be one that is least confusing, and a "left lane ends, merge left" is non-standard and indeed quite confusing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 link=topic=11045.msg2815225#msg2815225

Also of note is the "BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE" inside the NY state route shield silhouette.

That's just the Bear Mountain Bridge shield. The SR shield is actually common for the Hudson River bridges.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:46:31 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 10, 2023, 05:46:04 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/xshaQCLumZZcu9n2A

Plus the lack of a SOUTH banner for the Palisades Parkway along with using New Jersey over New York City as its control city is odd. The Parkway ends at the GWB into NYC, that would make better sense.

Actually, in the context of where the sign is, both make perfect sense (at least from my POV): The PIP is starting here; while a SOUTH might make sense for directionality, there's no other way to go on the Parkway. As for the destination, most people will be taking the Thruway into NYC (and of course that makes people pay more money to the state via the Thruway Authority), while the PIP is mainly for local access in NY and NJ and henceforth not signed to NYC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 13, 2023, 09:16:11 PM
Neat one in Anchorage.
https://goo.gl/maps/3jSJUZ3btSoSLtRB8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM
I didn't think so many people would be scared of driving across a bridge that something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/ngB4G29jdj4cyzLV6) would be necessary.

Quote from: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990
Also of note is the "BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE" inside the NY state route shield silhouette.
That's just the Bear Mountain Bridge shield. The SR shield is actually common for the Hudson River bridges.

I know, I'm just saying that it's not usually a black-and-white, plain text design. Most of them look something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/VJbeARDUCeUyd6ms8) or this (https://goo.gl/maps/9bc1hLqhjvFFkxN89) instead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 14, 2023, 08:44:51 AM
PANYNJ used to provide escorts for scared people.  Not sure if they still do. 

Believe it was the New York Times that found some lady who was born and raised on Staten Island that was petrified of bridges about a decade ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on February 14, 2023, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM
I didn't think so many people would be scared of driving across a bridge that something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/ngB4G29jdj4cyzLV6) would be necessary.



That's for wide loads
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2196179,-73.8333506,3a,15y,278.64h,86.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFKu-x0cSLuBlBf74djp8Uw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 14, 2023, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM
I didn't think so many people would be scared of driving across a bridge that something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/ngB4G29jdj4cyzLV6) would be necessary.

That's for wide loads
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2196179,-73.8333506,3a,15y,278.64h,86.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFKu-x0cSLuBlBf74djp8Uw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Oh. I wonder why that sign wasn't there in the October 2019 GSV capture of that location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on February 14, 2023, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:36:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 14, 2023, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM
I didn't think so many people would be scared of driving across a bridge that something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/ngB4G29jdj4cyzLV6) would be necessary.

That's for wide loads
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2196179,-73.8333506,3a,15y,278.64h,86.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFKu-x0cSLuBlBf74djp8Uw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Oh. I wonder why that sign wasn't there in the October 2019 GSV capture of that location.

there was no escort area sign in the 2019 view either.  The july 2022 view from NY 23 EB showed the wide load sign covered up.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 15, 2023, 08:55:03 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/3VHF5j3B2KZB6XjX8
A very interesting way to distinguish the ambiguity of the two Chatham municipalities in Morris County, NJ. Just tack on the word Borough to the guide sign as here in this caption.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 17, 2023, 10:48:29 AM
Welcome to our 51st state -- the Commonwealth of Turnpike.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7887/46550036742_35156303f3_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dVt79o)2018 Ohio River bridges-US 522 trip Day 2 - 098 (https://flic.kr/p/2dVt79o) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 17, 2023, 09:23:14 PM
Does BROWN DETOUR go to the public restrooms?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 18, 2023, 08:18:39 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/MrWcoaRnbxwujyD39
The black on white arrow cover up looks real bad. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 18, 2023, 09:41:18 AM
Golf Cart crossing on Salisbury Road at the Brandywine Country Club in Maumee, Ohio:

(https://i.imgur.com/gwXlXVy.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Declan127 on February 18, 2023, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM

Quote from: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990
Also of note is the "BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE" inside the NY state route shield silhouette.
That's just the Bear Mountain Bridge shield. The SR shield is actually common for the Hudson River bridges.

I know, I'm just saying that it's not usually a black-and-white, plain text design. Most of them look something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/VJbeARDUCeUyd6ms8) or this (https://goo.gl/maps/9bc1hLqhjvFFkxN89) instead.

Sorry for the late reply, but you are comparing an older BGS shield to newer trailblazers. I might be wrong, but I do believe that black-on-white was the old BGS standard, although really I don't know if there is a new standard, because I can't find any other BGSs with bridge shields, which may be related to the fact that there are no BGS shields for Parkways up that way (granted the BMB sign could be newer than the removal of Parkway shields, but who knows?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 18, 2023, 11:21:08 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 17, 2023, 10:48:29 AM
Welcome to our 51st state -- the Commonwealth of Turnpike.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/7887/46550036742_35156303f3_3k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dVt79o)2018 Ohio River bridges-US 522 trip Day 2 - 098 (https://flic.kr/p/2dVt79o) by H.B. Elkins (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hbelkins/), on Flickr

Just want to ask but what is the brown detour?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 19, 2023, 01:41:48 AM
Quote from: Declan127 on February 18, 2023, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM

Quote from: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990
Also of note is the "BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE" inside the NY state route shield silhouette.
That's just the Bear Mountain Bridge shield. The SR shield is actually common for the Hudson River bridges.

I know, I'm just saying that it's not usually a black-and-white, plain text design. Most of them look something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/VJbeARDUCeUyd6ms8) or this (https://goo.gl/maps/9bc1hLqhjvFFkxN89) instead.

Sorry for the late reply, but you are comparing an older BGS shield to newer trailblazers. I might be wrong, but I do believe that black-on-white was the old BGS standard, although really I don't know if there is a new standard, because I can't find any other BGSs with bridge shields, which may be related to the fact that there are no BGS shields for Parkways up that way (granted the BMB sign could be newer than the removal of Parkway shields, but who knows?)

For parkways on BGS who have shields in the same shape as the state route marker, it's usually just spelled out like any other word on the sign. This (https://goo.gl/maps/PZCqs2bHmUtwYi4F8) is a pretty good 4-in-1 example. You'd mostly only really see those parkway's shields on surface roads that lead to them or are near the entrance to/intersection with them, and on a signpost. As for bridges, yes that's why I found it interesting: I can't recall any other examples where there was a black-and-white bridge shield on a BGS, or even a bridge shield on one at all.

Quote from: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
there are no BGS shields for Parkways up that way

I'm not sure if you were only referring to state-route-marker-shaped parkway shields, but don't forget there are other parkways in NY with BGS shields (https://goo.gl/maps/9YdPjShWBkTjoPd3A).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 19, 2023, 02:04:41 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on February 18, 2023, 11:21:08 PMJust want to ask but what is the brown detour?

Pennsylvania has a system of color-coded detours for freeway closures (explainer (https://www.fox43.com/article/life/ask-evan/ask-evan-why-are-there-colored-detour-signs-located-near-interstates/521-d69e78ca-8d53-4696-a53e-098559fd64d1), plus a mention in the Wikipedia article dealing with permanent detour signing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanently_signed_detour_route)).  The colors are coordinated as to direction (https://www.chesco.org/DocumentCenter/View/2409/PennDot-Detour-Signs?bidId=).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Declan127 on February 19, 2023, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 19, 2023, 01:41:48 AM
Quote from: Declan127 on February 18, 2023, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 14, 2023, 12:03:58 AM

Quote from: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990
Also of note is the "BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE" inside the NY state route shield silhouette.
That's just the Bear Mountain Bridge shield. The SR shield is actually common for the Hudson River bridges.

I know, I'm just saying that it's not usually a black-and-white, plain text design. Most of them look something like this (https://goo.gl/maps/VJbeARDUCeUyd6ms8) or this (https://goo.gl/maps/9bc1hLqhjvFFkxN89) instead.

Sorry for the late reply, but you are comparing an older BGS shield to newer trailblazers. I might be wrong, but I do believe that black-on-white was the old BGS standard, although really I don't know if there is a new standard, because I can't find any other BGSs with bridge shields, which may be related to the fact that there are no BGS shields for Parkways up that way (granted the BMB sign could be newer than the removal of Parkway shields, but who knows?)

For parkways on BGS who have shields in the same shape as the state route marker, it's usually just spelled out like any other word on the sign. This (https://goo.gl/maps/PZCqs2bHmUtwYi4F8) is a pretty good 4-in-1 example. You'd mostly only really see those parkway's shields on surface roads that lead to them or are near the entrance to/intersection with them, and on a signpost. As for bridges, yes that's why I found it interesting: I can't recall any other examples where there was a black-and-white bridge shield on a BGS, or even a bridge shield on one at all.

Quote from: Declan127 on February 12, 2023, 05:35:49 PM
there are no BGS shields for Parkways up that way

I'm not sure if you were only referring to state-route-marker-shaped parkway shields, but don't forget there are other parkways in NY with BGS shields (https://goo.gl/maps/9YdPjShWBkTjoPd3A).
Yeah I was only referring to the SR-shaped Parkways. As for the bridge shield thing, I'd say it could be unique either to the time period the signs went up (I know the BGSs by the mid-hudson are/were all-text, but they're also all-caps so probably older than the ones by Bear Mtn) or to the circle itself (there are no shields at Rt. 9, let alone a mention of the bridge).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 20, 2023, 11:38:05 PM
I think we need to have a meeting.

(https://i.imgur.com/wAMM7C0.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 21, 2023, 06:41:56 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).

Moses Lake, Washington has them too. (https://goo.gl/maps/L6b7aJeKX8qigZtj8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on February 21, 2023, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 21, 2023, 06:41:56 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).

Moses Lake, Washington has them too. (https://goo.gl/maps/L6b7aJeKX8qigZtj8)

Right around the corner: Speed Limit 20 on an overhead signal mast arm (https://goo.gl/maps/AkdLB4GbGBR5Wv1p6).

(More of a unique placement than sign)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on February 21, 2023, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 21, 2023, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 21, 2023, 06:41:56 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).

Moses Lake, Washington has them too. (https://goo.gl/maps/L6b7aJeKX8qigZtj8)

Right around the corner: Speed Limit 20 on an overhead signal mast arm (https://goo.gl/maps/AkdLB4GbGBR5Wv1p6).

(More of a unique placement than sign)

The "PhotoSAFE Moses Lake" red light photo camera signs on the masts are special too.  I'm sure it's all about the safety.  Is 20 the speed limit while you go through the red light?  :P 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 21, 2023, 08:26:01 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QgBWZBfeczjQbKz46
Unusual text for both an interstate and US Route both to be signed as routes instead of by designation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on February 22, 2023, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on February 21, 2023, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on February 21, 2023, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on February 21, 2023, 06:41:56 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on February 02, 2023, 09:40:25 AM
I saw this one last week.  A red, white and blue business loop shield (https://goo.gl/maps/HxkLeAyw4V3BGGDV9).

Moses Lake, Washington has them too. (https://goo.gl/maps/L6b7aJeKX8qigZtj8)

Right around the corner: Speed Limit 20 on an overhead signal mast arm (https://goo.gl/maps/AkdLB4GbGBR5Wv1p6).

(More of a unique placement than sign)

The "PhotoSAFE Moses Lake" red light photo camera signs on the masts are special too.  I'm sure it's all about the safety.  Is 20 the speed limit while you go through the red light?  :P

Also not sure what to make of the Inca Mexican restaurant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 24, 2023, 09:47:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ifGgsf4.png)

Number 7 on Wikipedia's list of longest road tunnels under construction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_road_tunnels).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 24, 2023, 10:07:39 PM
Doing some bizarre stuff with the English text on that sign. It would seem that the lowercase "m" is specified to be half the height of the number next to it, rather than the intended 3/4, and because the native width of 600 m tall '15227' in E(M) is 2628.5 mm, this officially specifies horizontal compression of the text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 25, 2023, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 24, 2023, 10:07:39 PMDoing some bizarre stuff with the English text on that sign. It would seem that the lowercase "m" is specified to be half the height of the number next to it, rather than the intended 3/4, and because the native width of 600 m tall '15227' in E(M) is 2628.5 mm, this officially specifies horizontal compression of the text.

Yup.  This is all pretty normal for China.  I don't think I've ever seen a case where the unit matches the size of the integer part of the expression, though sometimes it is capital letter height rather than lowercase loop height that is half integer height.  (Fractional parts of expressions are smaller but on the same baseline:  "1.5 km.")  There is a tendency to coordinate the width of the Pinyin transliteration of a destination name to the width of the Chinese characters in that name, even if this means horizontally compressing the Series E Modified.  When the destination is wide but, for whatever reason, must appear on the sign on just one line, the Chinese characters are sometimes compressed too.

China does use FHWA series other than E Modified on signs, but typically only for legend that does not include lowercase characters, such as designations in route shields, exit numbers, and so on.

I've long been curious as to how the Chinese handle transliterations other than in Latin characters--Arabic is used in Xinjiang, for example--but I have not been able to source construction drawings on a consistent basis from any provinces other than Gansu.  Where there is online availability, typically through a public resource trading platform, there is usually also a requirement to register for access and it is difficult to complete registration without being set up to do business in China.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on February 25, 2023, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 20, 2023, 11:38:05 PM
I think we need to have a meeting.

(https://i.imgur.com/wAMM7C0.png)

In some regions of NYSDOT, GuidSIGN calls the shots, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on February 25, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
A few I've seen lately:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_25_02_23_8_47_55.jpeg)

This one's been around awhile. It's on KY 89 in Estill County. If you think some of the 9's on interstate signage in Pennsylvania look funky, this one tops them.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_25_02_23_9_00_57.jpeg)

Quite a few of these in Natural Bridge State Resort Park.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_25_02_23_8_50_27.jpeg)

Not sure what's supposed to be prohibited here, but if you look close enough, you can see enough of a faded up-and-left arrow to ascertain that this is a No Left Turn sign. It's on Business US 68 in Paris, Ky., where a one-way split begins (if you're traveling eastbound, as I was) or ends (if you're traveling westbound toward Lexington).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: interstatefan990 on February 27, 2023, 02:04:24 AM
Incorrect use (https://goo.gl/maps/onCsJd3y6GA24QXn6) of a W1-7 Two-Directional Road sign to indicate the end of a road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 27, 2023, 05:01:49 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/bFySqhgioHDYHg4L8
If this were Virginia I would say it's not so unusual, but for New Jersey getting even two shields together is uncommon as the Garden State even fails to keep up reassurance shields.

This is got to be rare in NJ to post this many shields in one place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 28, 2023, 05:11:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/wRTzPN9wANYRo9m57
Interesting I-69 EAST detour signs along an I-37 frontage road near Corpus Christi, TX.  Considering I-69 is no where near here and in Texas I-69 is N-S anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 28, 2023, 10:58:50 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 28, 2023, 05:11:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/wRTzPN9wANYRo9m57
Interesting I-69 EAST detour signs along an I-37 frontage road near Corpus Christi, TX.  Considering I-69 is no where near here and in Texas I-69 is N-S anyway.
Maybe the contractor is from Michigan.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on February 28, 2023, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 28, 2023, 05:11:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/wRTzPN9wANYRo9m57
Interesting I-69 EAST detour signs along an I-37 frontage road near Corpus Christi, TX.  Considering I-69 is no where near here and in Texas I-69 is N-S anyway.
It looks like a case of an error between I-69E (the intended sign) and I-69 EAST.  And yes, I-69E branches off I-37 there in Calallen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on February 28, 2023, 06:20:17 PM
Thought it would be interesting to post this, a blue diamond sign. I've personally seen signs similar to this in a yellow color elsewhere. This was on TX 11 west of Pittsburg.

(https://i.imgur.com/asoB5mf.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 28, 2023, 08:22:30 PM
Mildly interesting, but it looks like the signs for entering Shoreline, Mountlake Terrace, and Snohomish County were intentionally removed in 2021 on Interstate 5 northbound when whatever construction project started. Not exactly sure what they're doing:

Pre-2021:

Shoreline, with sign: https://goo.gl/maps/YiXpPxNnL5E4zq3r5
Mountlake Terrace and Snohomish County, with signs: https://goo.gl/maps/m4qhSF9xkDZGnUAM6

Currently:

Shoreline, with no sign: https://goo.gl/maps/t9qMjRBW35GvXpt1A
Mountlake Terrace and Snohomish County, with no signs: https://goo.gl/maps/DDjbptAJGN5VUwwu7

Interesting that in the second one, they kept the SR 104 exit sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on March 01, 2023, 01:11:23 AM
The Freeways that either parallel or (ideally) are surrounded by another freeway? thread uncovered this gem in Sacramento: non-shield, nearly faded "Freeway 80 East" sign with a faded right lane ends diagram in the distance. (https://goo.gl/maps/vzXADm5epRgZfcDc6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 01, 2023, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: Amaury on February 28, 2023, 08:22:30 PM
Mildly interesting, but it looks like the signs for entering Shoreline, Mountlake Terrace, and Snohomish County were intentionally removed in 2021 on Interstate 5 northbound when whatever construction project started. Not exactly sure what they're doing:

Pre-2021:

Shoreline, with sign: https://goo.gl/maps/YiXpPxNnL5E4zq3r5
Mountlake Terrace and Snohomish County, with signs: https://goo.gl/maps/m4qhSF9xkDZGnUAM6

Currently:

Shoreline, with no sign: https://goo.gl/maps/t9qMjRBW35GvXpt1A
Mountlake Terrace and Snohomish County, with no signs: https://goo.gl/maps/DDjbptAJGN5VUwwu7

Interesting that in the second one, they kept the SR 104 exit sign.

The project in question is a much-needed light rail extension from Northgate to Lynnwood that should open in 2024 or 2025. Removing the Shoreline sign makes sense, but I'm scratching my head about the county line sign...it's not a huge deal but wouldn't have a real effect on construction access.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 01:52:44 AM
While not a huge deal, as you mentioned–and hopefully those and Shoreline are put back up once the project is complete–considering they left all the other signs there (the exit, no parking, etc.), minus the bus/carpool sign, which seems to have been removed before the project even began, the Mountlake Terrace and county line signs weren't in the way, as you said. If they had removed the entire metal whatchamacallit, I would have understood it more. But hopefully they've noted everything that needs to be put back up upon the project's completion–signs and other things.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 01:59:12 AM
Another interesting thing is that we appear to have "rare" signs for I-405 in Kirkland. (Kind of like shiny Pokémon in the games.)

It's a little hard to see the "405," but it's there.

Southbound: https://goo.gl/maps/dbK6vpGd4pRRAYmQ7
Northbound, with a random "U": https://goo.gl/maps/KoXdorVcjwYpvbv99
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on March 01, 2023, 03:05:51 AM
Quote from: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 01:59:12 AM
Another interesting thing is that we appear to have "rare" signs for I-405 in Kirkland. (Kind of like shiny Pokémon in the games.)

It's a little hard to see the "405," but it's there.

Southbound: https://goo.gl/maps/dbK6vpGd4pRRAYmQ7
Northbound, with a random "U": https://goo.gl/maps/KoXdorVcjwYpvbv99

Just some button copy, with mild vandalism for the latter. I mentioned in another thread somewhere.

Those signs will be torn down soon when the NE 85th Street interchange is converted from a cloverleaf to a three-level dogbone hybrid interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/YxRA24l.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 04:18:35 AM
Quote from: Bruce on March 01, 2023, 03:05:51 AMJust some button copy, with mild vandalism for the latter.

Is that like a master copy or something?

But okay, vandalism, yeah. There's a lot of that around the Seattle area along I-5, mostly, but also in some places on I-90–and the Portland area, for that matter, along I-84. But it does rarely pop up in other areas of the state, such as in Ellensburg here on the roundabout circle: https://goo.gl/maps/RaYBnPJLrfk8zsYT9

Or here, descending Ryegrass eastbound: https://goo.gl/maps/NKL7njHBUKFBCzqg6 There are no dates after the roundabout was installed in Ellensburg there without the vandalism, but for the eastbound Ryegrass descent, it looks like it happened sometime after June 2019, as it was fine here: https://goo.gl/maps/EoinNfauZWiwrP3q8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 01, 2023, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 01:59:12 AM
Another interesting thing is that we appear to have "rare" signs for I-405 in Kirkland. (Kind of like shiny Pokémon in the games.)

It's a little hard to see the "405," but it's there.

Southbound: https://goo.gl/maps/dbK6vpGd4pRRAYmQ7
Northbound, with a random "U": https://goo.gl/maps/KoXdorVcjwYpvbv99

The U logo sticker appears in many places; one has been on a button-copy sign for the Mass Pike near Copley Square in Boston for many years.
https://goo.gl/maps/gpBydQ6fE7Gvn9QK9

It appears to be this logo of a skate group that likes putting the stickers in very hard-to-reach locations.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawaiianswers.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F09%2Fudownsticker.jpg&hash=ead546a1e840ce5df0519ebfe4b0a6c2257f6edd)
http://www.hawaiianswers.com/what-does-the-symbol-with-the-u-and-a-downward-pointing-arrow-mean/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 01, 2023, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 04:18:35 AM
But okay, vandalism, yeah. There's a lot of that around the Seattle area along I-5, mostly, but also in some places on I-90–and the Portland area, for that matter, along I-84. But it does rarely pop up in other areas of the state, such as in Ellensburg here on the roundabout circle: https://goo.gl/maps/RaYBnPJLrfk8zsYT9

What's with "I-90 EAST I-82 TO" (instead of, I assume, "I-90 EAST TO I-82")?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 01, 2023, 10:21:11 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 01, 2023, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 04:18:35 AM
But okay, vandalism, yeah. There's a lot of that around the Seattle area along I-5, mostly, but also in some places on I-90–and the Portland area, for that matter, along I-84. But it does rarely pop up in other areas of the state, such as in Ellensburg here on the roundabout circle: https://goo.gl/maps/RaYBnPJLrfk8zsYT9

What's with "I-90 EAST I-82 TO" (instead of, I assume, "I-90 EAST TO I-82")?
Yoda.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 01, 2023, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 01, 2023, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 01:59:12 AM
Another interesting thing is that we appear to have "rare" signs for I-405 in Kirkland. (Kind of like shiny Pokémon in the games.)

It's a little hard to see the "405," but it's there.

Southbound: https://goo.gl/maps/dbK6vpGd4pRRAYmQ7
Northbound, with a random "U": https://goo.gl/maps/KoXdorVcjwYpvbv99

The U logo sticker appears in many places; one has been on a button-copy sign for the Mass Pike near Copley Square in Boston for many years.
https://goo.gl/maps/gpBydQ6fE7Gvn9QK9

It appears to be this logo of a skate group that likes putting the stickers in very hard-to-reach locations.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawaiianswers.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F09%2Fudownsticker.jpg&hash=ead546a1e840ce5df0519ebfe4b0a6c2257f6edd)
http://www.hawaiianswers.com/what-does-the-symbol-with-the-u-and-a-downward-pointing-arrow-mean/
And the period after "Ave"?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 02, 2023, 05:12:35 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 01, 2023, 10:00:16 PMWhat's with "I-90 EAST I-82 TO" (instead of, I assume, "I-90 EAST TO I-82")?

They're correct, just that the text "east" and "to" are on the right side of the shields instead of the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 02, 2023, 08:49:13 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on March 01, 2023, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Amaury on March 01, 2023, 01:59:12 AM
Another interesting thing is that we appear to have "rare" signs for I-405 in Kirkland. (Kind of like shiny Pokémon in the games.)

It's a little hard to see the "405," but it's there.

Southbound: https://goo.gl/maps/dbK6vpGd4pRRAYmQ7
Northbound, with a random "U": https://goo.gl/maps/KoXdorVcjwYpvbv99

The U logo sticker appears in many places; one has been on a button-copy sign for the Mass Pike near Copley Square in Boston for many years.
https://goo.gl/maps/gpBydQ6fE7Gvn9QK9

It appears to be this logo of a skate group that likes putting the stickers in very hard-to-reach locations.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hawaiianswers.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F09%2Fudownsticker.jpg&hash=ead546a1e840ce5df0519ebfe4b0a6c2257f6edd)
http://www.hawaiianswers.com/what-does-the-symbol-with-the-u-and-a-downward-pointing-arrow-mean/
"Putting stickers in very hard to reach locations" is a lot of words for what can be said in one word ("vandalism").
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on March 02, 2023, 09:27:04 AM
Quote from: Amaury on March 02, 2023, 05:12:35 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 01, 2023, 10:00:16 PMWhat's with "I-90 EAST I-82 TO" (instead of, I assume, "I-90 EAST TO I-82")?

They're correct, just that the text "east" and "to" are on the right side of the shields instead of the left.

That's the way they do it in Ellensburg.  (My wife was at CWU when we met.)  Where is this roundabout?  Is it new?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 02, 2023, 02:54:56 PM
It's by Flying J. It was added in 2021. Pretty pointless, if you ask me, as there was nothing wrong with the old setup, and it wasn't that busy.

It also makes these signs no longer accurate since now it goes down to a single lane: https://goo.gl/maps/1pU1yBzU3NQhb2py6 There is no left turn lane.

There was a slight change to the left one, as before the roundabout, the left one had "only," but they're still not correct now. Before the roundabout: https://goo.gl/maps/18FHAgVGBgRDwxPy5 And at some point, the arrow used to be on the left of "only": https://goo.gl/maps/pcVk6JHUz8M8uAdx5

Way before the roundabout happened, this sign used to be here: https://goo.gl/maps/Q2ZcCEdi8HvD1d5W6 Then it was slighly changed to remove the Canyon Road part and it was moved to be by the freeway entrance as seen here: https://goo.gl/maps/wbQfPC2r5a2RddGe6

I think my solution for the signs on the overpass would be to change them to a single sign and have it be exactly like one I mentioned above (https://goo.gl/maps/Q2ZcCEdi8HvD1d5W6), except for the Canyon Road part, instead of Canyon Road, have it say:

TO 821 SOUTH
Yakima River Canyon

Abbreviating where necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 02, 2023, 03:15:39 PM
I don't want to waste a Flickr photo on this, but the sign warning of the Rapture here (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7126118,-71.1674124,3a,15y,289.36h,84.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPr73RxWrM9i4jDQSsGPhxQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (Google Street View link) says Jesus is coming on October 28, 1992. I walked by it today.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 02, 2023, 03:21:01 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 02, 2023, 03:15:39 PM
I don't want to waste a Flickr photo on this, but the sign warning of the Rapture here (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7126118,-71.1674124,3a,15y,289.36h,84.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPr73RxWrM9i4jDQSsGPhxQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (Google Street View link) says Jesus is coming on October 28, 1992. I walked by it today.

Not to get into religion...  A year ago or so, I was filling in to teach an adult Sunday school class at my church.  As part of the lesson, I prepared a list of failed end-times predictions, in chronological order.  The first one on the list was around the time of Christ, and the last one was after the year 2000.  I could barely fit them all on one page, and I left a whole lot of them off the list.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 03, 2023, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 27, 2023, 02:04:24 AM
Incorrect use (https://goo.gl/maps/onCsJd3y6GA24QXn6) of a W1-7 Two-Directional Road sign to indicate the end of a road.

Also incorrect use of object markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 03, 2023, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: roadfro on March 03, 2023, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 27, 2023, 02:04:24 AM
Incorrect use (https://goo.gl/maps/onCsJd3y6GA24QXn6) of a W1-7 Two-Directional Road sign to indicate the end of a road.

Also incorrect use of object markers.

That's not incorrect.  It's telling you that you have two options: turn into the lawn of the sheriff's office or turn into the woods. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 03, 2023, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 03, 2023, 11:40:38 AM

Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 27, 2023, 02:04:24 AM
Incorrect use (https://goo.gl/maps/onCsJd3y6GA24QXn6) of a W1-7 Two-Directional Road sign to indicate the end of a road.

Also incorrect use of object markers.

Hey, man, here's the house I grew up in as a small child:  https://goo.gl/maps/1nStWyA7qVwN83c87
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 03, 2023, 04:05:07 PM
Truthful graffiti?

(https://i.imgur.com/XNBIXmc.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 03, 2023, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 03, 2023, 04:05:07 PM
Truthful graffiti?

(https://i.imgur.com/XNBIXmc.jpg)


Another invasion successfully thwarted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 04, 2023, 04:26:28 PM
When county lines are different depending on the side of the road.

A couple of examples. The Chelan/Douglas County line on US 97 is in the middle of the Beebe Bridge, according to Google Maps; however, signage wise, Chelan County begins before the bridge on US 97 on the south side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/43UmUjqtFsqALy9m8 And Douglas County begins before the bridge on US 97 on the north side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/ZrRKrjjsARuDFcEW6

Similarly, the Chelan/Douglas County line on US 2/US 97 is in the middle of the Richard Odabashian Bridge; however, signage wise, Chelan County begins before the bridge on US 2/US 97 on the east side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/2Q2LsN6DVTJLU6KU7 (Interesting point is that the Columbia River sign below the Chelan County sign fell off at some point, as it's there in earlier years seen on Google Maps, and it became slightly crooked at some point before falling off, but I don't find that one to be that big of a deal.) And Douglas County begins before the bridge on US 2/US 97 on the west side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/uRCXxY2e45QTiANe9

These are just two examples.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 04, 2023, 07:14:08 PM


Quote from: Amaury on March 04, 2023, 04:26:28 PM
When county lines are different depending on the side of the road.

A couple of examples. The Chelan/Douglas County line on US 97 is in the middle of the Beebe Bridge, according to Google Maps; however, signage wise, Chelan County begins before the bridge on US 97 on the south side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/43UmUjqtFsqALy9m8 And Douglas County begins before the bridge on US 97 on the north side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/ZrRKrjjsARuDFcEW6

Similarly, the Chelan/Douglas County line on US 2/US 97 is in the middle of the Richard Odabashian Bridge; however, signage wise, Chelan County begins before the bridge on US 2/US 97 on the east side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/2Q2LsN6DVTJLU6KU7 (Interesting point is that the Columbia River sign below the Chelan County sign fell off at some point, as it's there in earlier years seen on Google Maps, and it became slightly crooked at some point before falling off, but I don't find that one to be that big of a deal.) And Douglas County begins before the bridge on US 2/US 97 on the west side of the river: https://goo.gl/maps/uRCXxY2e45QTiANe9

These are just two examples.

Signage is not always right at the line, especially on bridges.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on March 04, 2023, 07:17:52 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on March 02, 2023, 08:49:13 AM

"Putting stickers in very hard to reach locations" is a lot of words for what can be said in one word ("vandalism").

The people applying the stickers never seem to vandalize easy-to-reach signs, though.  :P

Quote from: Big John on March 01, 2023, 10:23:15 PM
And the period after "Ave"?

Lots of older signs, and newer ones that carbon-copied older ones, have periods after street abbrev.  Massachusetts still has it in the style book to use periods after geographic abbrev, like "S. Boston" but not after street abbrev (e.g., "Granite Ave" with no period).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 04, 2023, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 04, 2023, 07:14:08 PMSignage is not always right at the line, especially on bridges.

Yeah. I just find it interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 04, 2023, 10:29:22 PM
This one, intended for installation on I-45, comes from a just-advertised TxDOT Houston District guide sign replacement contract that has about 400 sheets (!!!) of sign panel details.

(https://i.imgur.com/wvelH5v.png)

Both the exit tab and the main sign panel have the word "EXIT."  This is allowed under the current MUTCD, though not encouraged--normally the word is omitted in the distance expression on the main sign panel if the freeway has exit numbering with tabs.  In the next edition of the MUTCD, FHWA proposes to require that "EXIT" appear only once.  This is far from the only instance of redundant "EXIT" in this plans set, so I wonder if this change is being misunderstood as encouragement to do what FHWA wants to ban.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 04, 2023, 11:51:57 PM
I wish OKC would change its airport name to "Will Rogers Intergalactic Airport" just to one-up the Houston people.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 05, 2023, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2023, 11:51:57 PMI wish OKC would change its airport name to "Will Rogers Intergalactic Airport" just to one-up the Houston people.

I've always wondered a little about the "Intercontinental" moniker.  Wikipedia says that in 2017 they became the first North American airport to offer service to all inhabited continents, and I suspect that has to do with Houston's focus on the oil and gas industry.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 05, 2023, 02:53:18 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 05, 2023, 01:28:42 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 04, 2023, 11:51:57 PMI wish OKC would change its airport name to "Will Rogers Intergalactic Airport" just to one-up the Houston people.

I've always wondered a little about the "Intercontinental" moniker.  Wikipedia says that in 2017 they became the first North American airport to offer service to all inhabited continents, and I suspect that has to do with Houston's focus on the oil and gas industry.

That's interesting. I would have thought one of the NYC-area airports or LAX would have beaten them to that distinction. 

It still comes off as pretentious to me when "International" is the standard terminology for an airport with such offerings. Technically any airport that offers at least one flight to Europe could be an "Intercontinental" airport.

I've always wondered if Will Rogers World Airport had that name because they don't actually meet standards for an "International" airport but are trying to keep people from noticing. If that's the case, I'm sure Mr. Rogers would have found it pretty funny.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 05, 2023, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 04, 2023, 10:29:22 PM
This one, intended for installation on I-45, comes from a just-advertised TxDOT Houston District guide sign replacement contract that has about 400 sheets (!!!) of sign panel details.

(https://i.imgur.com/wvelH5v.png)

Both the exit tab and the main sign panel have the word "EXIT."  This is allowed under the current MUTCD, though not encouraged--normally the word is omitted in the distance expression on the main sign panel if the freeway has exit numbering with tabs.  In the next edition of the MUTCD, FHWA proposes to require that "EXIT" appear only once.  This is far from the only instance of redundant "EXIT" in this plans set, so I wonder if this change is being misunderstood as encouragement to do what FHWA wants to ban.

Or TxDOT just does what TxDOT does and doesn't care what FHWA has to say.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tdindy88 on March 05, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
Forget the extra "exit" on the sign, why do they have to have that small square tab on the upper right with the airport logo and IAH. Doesn't spelling out George Bush Intercontinental Airport already accomplish that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 05, 2023, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 05, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
Forget the extra "exit" on the sign, why do they have to have that small square tab on the upper right with the airport logo and IAH. Doesn't spelling out George Bush Intercontinental Airport already accomplish that?

This.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 05, 2023, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2023, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 05, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
Forget the extra "exit" on the sign, why do they have to have that small square tab on the upper right with the airport logo and IAH. Doesn't spelling out George Bush Intercontinental Airport already accomplish that?

This.

Probably so you don't wind up at Houston Intercontinental, when you meant to go to Houston Hobby airport. A handful of large cities have this concern with multiple airports offering commercial air service (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Washington DC...) but most do not. The airport code might be useful in that case, but less so in most other cases.

Maybe it's too much information to put in the airport code into the BGS, but okay to have a supplemental sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 05, 2023, 01:56:27 PM
Quote from: formulanone on March 05, 2023, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2023, 12:19:45 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 05, 2023, 10:40:07 AM
Forget the extra "exit" on the sign, why do they have to have that small square tab on the upper right with the airport logo and IAH. Doesn't spelling out George Bush Intercontinental Airport already accomplish that?

This.

Probably so you don't wind up at Houston Intercontinental, when you meant to go to Houston Hobby airport. A handful of large cities have this concern with multiple airports offering commercial air service (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Washington DC...) but most do not. The airport code might be useful in that case, but less so in most other cases.

Maybe it's too much information to put in the airport code into the BGS, but okay to have a supplemental sign.

I don't mind the IAH, and it's probably good to have.  However, it's a bit small and spread out - why are there spaces between the letters, and why do the I and H practically touch the while border?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 04:26:23 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/1hidha8yFZZf6Y646
https://goo.gl/maps/L5MQ1ZcdAcJhb4ig8

Interesting shields and guides near Norfolk, VA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:26:57 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ziPQBnsrCg2xSUS96
Here is a very strange arrow for I-5 South in Blaine, WA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 06, 2023, 08:32:27 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:26:57 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ziPQBnsrCg2xSUS96
Here is a very strange arrow for I-5 South in Blaine, WA.

I think these types of signs are meant to emulate the "fingerpost" type of signage often seen in places like the UK. See also: my avatar. But a lazier attempt.

Here is another example, but across the border: https://goo.gl/maps/XoLXPfL8qsCM2jjn6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on March 06, 2023, 10:16:59 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:26:57 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ziPQBnsrCg2xSUS96
Here is a very strange arrow for I-5 South in Blaine, WA.

Quote from: jakeroot on March 06, 2023, 08:32:27 AM
I think these types of signs are meant to emulate the "fingerpost" type of signage often seen in places like the UK. See also: my avatar. But a lazier attempt.

Here is another example, but across the border: https://goo.gl/maps/XoLXPfL8qsCM2jjn6

These types of signs were once commonplace for control cities throughout North Carolina.  You can still find a few: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0460004,-79.0228453,3a,15y,39.66h,88.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEAJyVem84tkbAouSvRvqcg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 06, 2023, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:26:57 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ziPQBnsrCg2xSUS96
Here is a very strange arrow for I-5 South in Blaine, WA.

I'm fairly sure that's standard for Washington state.

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0831909,-123.1950806,3a,18.4y,324.59h,83.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXqGJhllGfbfcqh2tDAGBhQ!2e0!5s20150901T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 06, 2023, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 06, 2023, 06:50:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:26:57 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/ziPQBnsrCg2xSUS96
Here is a very strange arrow for I-5 South in Blaine, WA.

I'm fairly sure that's standard for Washington state.

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0831909,-123.1950806,3a,18.4y,324.59h,83.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXqGJhllGfbfcqh2tDAGBhQ!2e0!5s20150901T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Approved by Sam Woodcock I'm sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:02:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Thpc1AzwHMyNjABh7
https://goo.gl/maps/uRMkcb2JbdBkTWJaA
Some interesting Canadian APL signs.

I like the way theTrans Canada Highway is signed. I take it's BC Route 1, but part of the Trans Highway gets it the maple leaf as that particular symbol denotes what local or provincial route number is part of it by entering its route within the maple leaf.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 07, 2023, 01:37:55 PM
A distance sign in New Mexico where all three destinations are in Arizona. (https://goo.gl/maps/bwAgtfwGAZpD7Wuh8)  Very unique for New Mexico. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 08, 2023, 12:17:14 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2023, 07:02:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Thpc1AzwHMyNjABh7
https://goo.gl/maps/uRMkcb2JbdBkTWJaA
Some interesting Canadian APL signs.

I want to say that APLs, in this style, are only seen in British Columbia. MTO uses a form of up arrow for their exit signs, but nothing like the APLs in BC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 08, 2023, 12:38:25 AM
This sign in Waitsburg: https://goo.gl/maps/H32Wdh77pQRk3Cfq8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Occidental Tourist on March 08, 2023, 02:39:10 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 04, 2023, 10:29:22 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/wvelH5v.png)

I appreciate the airport code above the airport symbol.  I always wished they'd do this in California rather than the hodge-podge way they identify airports on signs with two different symbols (if they use one) and refer to them sometimes by name, sometimes by airport code, sometimes by general description, e.g., "S F Intl Airport"  née "S F Airport,"  "John Wayne Airport,"  "LAX Airport"  née "L A Airport,"  "Sac Int'l Airport,"  "Long Beach Airport,"  etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on March 08, 2023, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 07, 2023, 01:37:55 PM
A distance sign in New Mexico where all three destinations are in Arizona. (https://goo.gl/maps/bwAgtfwGAZpD7Wuh8)  Very unique for New Mexico.

To be fair, what else are they going to put on there?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on March 08, 2023, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: US 89 on March 08, 2023, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 07, 2023, 01:37:55 PM
A distance sign in New Mexico where all three destinations are in Arizona. (https://goo.gl/maps/bwAgtfwGAZpD7Wuh8)  Very unique for New Mexico.

To be fair, what else are they going to put on there?

It's New Mexico.  They would find some rock or clump of dirt to give a distance to.

You say that, but funny thing is, the intersection just to the east of this sign has a distance sign to the state line (https://goo.gl/maps/GwEpr5Sk6ahaDGXv9).  So, there it is right there they had something else to give a distance to that was technically still in New Mexico. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on March 08, 2023, 01:01:09 PM
^Plus they managed to get the shield assemblies the wrong way round. Good old New Mexico.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 08, 2023, 07:29:26 PM
When a "complete street" is completely closed:

(https://i.imgur.com/WH85cUg.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 08, 2023, 07:32:28 PM
I'm assuming that is actually a dead end? Where is that located?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 08, 2023, 07:39:30 PM
^^ That is a temporary sign meaning the road is closed ahead, but local traffic can use it up to the point of closure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 09, 2023, 07:26:35 AM
^^  Cass Avenue in downtown Detroit.  The bridge over I-94 (one block ahead) is being replaced this year.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 09, 2023, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 08, 2023, 07:39:30 PM
^^ That is a temporary sign meaning the road is closed ahead, but local traffic can use it up to the point of closure.

Speaking of temporary signs, this sign I just saw on Rue Sainte-Catherine in Montréal is announcing a road closure... in September 2022:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52736168966_42938bdffb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2om7DJw)Late notice for a closed road, Rue Sainte-Catherine (https://flic.kr/p/2om7DJw) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 09, 2023, 09:21:10 AM
I thought Quebec was pretty good about road signs being understandable to people who only speak English, but that sign only appears to have the part below the divider qualify. Someone who doesn't understand French will see "no parking between these days/times" but not "road closed".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 09, 2023, 09:23:37 AM
Quote from: 1 on March 09, 2023, 09:21:10 AM
I thought Quebec was pretty good about road signs being understandable to people who only speak English, but that sign only appears to have the part below the divider qualify. Someone who doesn't understand French will see "no parking between these days/times" but not "road closed".

Especially in Montréal, where the Burger King cashier couldn't even speak French. If I had to guess, there was an identical sign in English below, but it would've been removed in the six months since the restriction became a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 09, 2023, 02:05:22 PM
Well THAT'S oddly specific.  Let me break out my measuring tape...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4078999,-75.4729199,3a,41.8y,173.7h,94.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1zUpr3vfcwMTWvIG3qhgHA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1zUpr3vfcwMTWvIG3qhgHA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D77.80715%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 09, 2023, 02:08:07 PM
Unique curve sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2764999,-75.3968849,3a,19.5y,207.26h,93.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2vP61pFwtNin7LYxGFgvFw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on March 09, 2023, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 09, 2023, 02:05:22 PM
Well THAT'S oddly specific.  Let me break out my measuring tape...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4078999,-75.4729199,3a,41.8y,173.7h,94.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1zUpr3vfcwMTWvIG3qhgHA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1zUpr3vfcwMTWvIG3qhgHA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D77.80715%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

Wow that's weird. It works out to about 170 meters, but that's not a normal distance to post either!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 09, 2023, 03:29:54 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/D4x2KPSYWcFYjb4SA
The Pennsylvania Turnpike classic giant shield at Turnpike entrances still is one of the most unique and interesting sign assembly around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 09, 2023, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2023, 03:29:54 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/D4x2KPSYWcFYjb4SA
The Pennsylvania Turnpike classic giant shield at Turnpike entrances still is one of the most unique and interesting sign assembly around.

A somewhat larger example: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0895237,-75.3968346,3a,48y,221h,78.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLPtUScejw-hxbw1TO1OgZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 09, 2023, 08:21:37 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 09, 2023, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 09, 2023, 03:29:54 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/D4x2KPSYWcFYjb4SA
The Pennsylvania Turnpike classic giant shield at Turnpike entrances still is one of the most unique and interesting sign assembly around.

A somewhat larger example: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0895237,-75.3968346,3a,48y,221h,78.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLPtUScejw-hxbw1TO1OgZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

First one's cooler though for being a cut-out.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 09, 2023, 09:36:34 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on March 09, 2023, 02:30:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 09, 2023, 02:05:22 PM
Well THAT'S oddly specific.  Let me break out my measuring tape...

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4078999,-75.4729199,3a,41.8y,173.7h,94.09t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1zUpr3vfcwMTWvIG3qhgHA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1zUpr3vfcwMTWvIG3qhgHA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D77.80715%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

Wow that's weird. It works out to about 170 meters, but that's not a normal distance to post either!

Strangely, 170 m is a pretty frequent distance in Québec for things such as ped crossings or other miscellaneous stuff. It has to do with the ideal placement of advance signs, IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on March 10, 2023, 09:50:07 AM
Found this on Quora.

(https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c1bae107b1043f2aa6f93253dec81ef4)

The US had a national speed limit of 35 MPH during WWII to save on fuel and rubber. (https://snapshotsofhistory.quora.com/The-US-imposed-a-nationwide-35mph-victory-speed-limit-during-WW2-to-save-gas-and-rubber)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 10, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on March 10, 2023, 09:50:07 AM
The US had a national speed limit of 35 MPH during WWII to save on fuel and rubber. (https://snapshotsofhistory.quora.com/The-US-imposed-a-nationwide-35mph-victory-speed-limit-during-WW2-to-save-gas-and-rubber)

"35 MILES" -- incorrect units.  In 35 miles, I will reach the town of Victory Speed?  (or else I'll get a ticket?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 10, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
Schrödinger's Sign: https://www.flickr.com/photos/steinsky/143733824
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 10, 2023, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: tckma on March 10, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
Schrödinger's Sign: https://www.flickr.com/photos/steinsky/143733824
The sign itself is prohibited (red).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 10, 2023, 03:42:58 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/QtFa1aXzQtWoTLym6
Then just behind it around the corner:
https://goo.gl/maps/BrgtPbTwTbET27Jb8

Turn right on NB US 202 Bus. to see it end in just 100 feet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 10, 2023, 09:26:53 PM
Okay, so this isn't on a road, so bear with me. But it is a rather unique sign.

This boardwalk sign has Clearview, which I have never seen anywhere in Japan until now:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52739589869_3059b03967_o.jpg)
American Village Boardwalk Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/2omqbDB) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 11, 2023, 07:03:59 AM
My natural walking speed is 4.8 kph. What are they trying to do?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 11, 2023, 07:35:16 AM
I don't think that's actually Clearview, but it's close enough that even I'm not 100% certain.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 11, 2023, 01:29:59 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 10, 2023, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on March 10, 2023, 09:50:07 AM
The US had a national speed limit of 35 MPH during WWII to save on fuel and rubber. (https://snapshotsofhistory.quora.com/The-US-imposed-a-nationwide-35mph-victory-speed-limit-during-WW2-to-save-gas-and-rubber)

"35 MILES" -- incorrect units.  In 35 miles, I will reach the town of Victory Speed?  (or else I'll get a ticket?)

It was a relatively common way of showing the speed limit at the time though...

https://www.alexautographs.com/auction-lot/victory-speed-limit-signs_FB14B0895C

https://highwaypatrol.utah.gov/uhp-history/1940-1949/war-speed-limit/

https://images.roadtrafficsigns.com/img/art/1930-state-speed-limit-sign-L.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 11, 2023, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 11, 2023, 07:35:16 AM
I don't think that's actually Clearview, but it's close enough that even I'm not 100% certain.
The "MAXIMUM SPEED" text I'm 99% sure is Clearview, but the "BICYCLE" text sure isn't. Compare to my similarly sized and colored find from my Montréal trip:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52736168966_42938bdffb_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2om7DJw)Late notice for a closed road, Rue Sainte-Catherine (https://flic.kr/p/2om7DJw) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 11, 2023, 07:17:27 PM
The center vertex of the M in "MAXIMUM" on Jake's sign is flat. On the Montréal Clearview, it's pointed.

So it's different fonts, it's just that the letterforms are close enough that they're easy to confuse. Argh!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 12, 2023, 03:44:35 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 11, 2023, 07:17:27 PM
The center vertex of the M in "MAXIMUM" on Jake's sign is flat. On the Montréal Clearview, it's pointed.

So it's different fonts, it's just that the letterforms are close enough that they're easy to confuse. Argh!

Hey, just be glad they didn't use UD Shin Go.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 12, 2023, 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2023, 09:26:53 PM
Okay, so this isn't on a road, so bear with me. But it is a rather unique sign.

This boardwalk sign has Clearview, which I have never seen anywhere in Japan until now:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52739589869_3059b03967_o.jpg)
American Village Boardwalk Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/2omqbDB) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

Kinda reminds me of some form of Calibri to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 12, 2023, 02:03:35 PM
When a speed advisory just won't be enough.  I took this photo in 2014; I think somewhere on Skyline Drive in Shenandoah National Park but I can't be sure.

(https://i.imgur.com/WZntNAy.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 12, 2023, 06:24:19 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 12, 2023, 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2023, 09:26:53 PM
Okay, so this isn't on a road, so bear with me. But it is a rather unique sign.

This boardwalk sign has Clearview, which I have never seen anywhere in Japan until now:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52739589869_3059b03967_o.jpg)
American Village Boardwalk Speed Limit (https://flic.kr/p/2omqbDB) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr

Kinda reminds me of some form of Calibri to me.

It does seem to have elements of various fonts. Though the overwhelming design inspiration is still very clearly Clearview, to me at least.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bootmii on March 13, 2023, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 04, 2023, 10:29:22 PM
This one, intended for installation on I-45, comes from a just-advertised TxDOT Houston District guide sign replacement contract that has about 400 sheets (!!!) of sign panel details.

(https://i.imgur.com/wvelH5v.png)

Both the exit tab and the main sign panel have the word "EXIT."  This is allowed under the current MUTCD, though not encouraged--normally the word is omitted in the distance expression on the main sign panel if the freeway has exit numbering with tabs.  In the next edition of the MUTCD, FHWA proposes to require that "EXIT" appear only once.  This is far from the only instance of redundant "EXIT" in this plans set, so I wonder if this change is being misunderstood as encouragement to do what FHWA wants to ban.

Also Clearview has its place but that place is mixed-case. Numbers other than "Nth St" etc should be in a FHWA series, as should all/small caps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 14, 2023, 04:10:08 AM
Yeah, but Texas can do what it wants cause it's a whole other planet.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 14, 2023, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 14, 2023, 04:10:08 AM
Yeah, but Texas can do what it wants cause it's a whole other planet.

Honestly, Texas is so head-and-shoulders above most other states when it comes to signing, that I'm only about two inches away from trusting their judgment over that of the FHWA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on March 14, 2023, 01:13:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 14, 2023, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 14, 2023, 04:10:08 AM
Yeah, but Texas can do what it wants cause it's a whole other planet.

Honestly, Texas is so head-and-shoulders above most other states when it comes to signing, that I'm only about two inches away from trusting their judgment over that of the FHWA.

Nah. Texas is kind of a shitshow to me after my trip to Austin last year. Their level of expansion is great, but some of it is really not thought out well at all. And I question the quality of the construction itself as well.

I dislike their attachment to Clearview as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on March 14, 2023, 02:12:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WZntNAy.jpg)

Okay, that's a new one seeing the Frutiger typeface used on a highway advisory sign.
:crazy:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on March 14, 2023, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 12, 2023, 02:03:35 PM
When a speed advisory just won't be enough.  I took this photo in 2014; I think somewhere on Skyline Drive in Shenandoah National Park but I can't be sure.

(https://i.imgur.com/WZntNAy.jpg)

Quote from: Bobby5280 on March 14, 2023, 02:12:40 PM
Okay, that's a new one seeing the Frutiger typeface used on a highway advisory sign.
:crazy:

Indeed, as the National Park Service has used Frutiger in addition to NPS Rawlinson since 2006.  They didn't have any font preferences for transit signage when I worked on a few NPS projects back in the 1990s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on March 18, 2023, 10:19:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/h71WvLw.jpg)

So I guess Princeton is closed before this sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on March 19, 2023, 02:06:11 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on March 14, 2023, 01:13:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 14, 2023, 10:23:13 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on March 14, 2023, 04:10:08 AM
Yeah, but Texas can do what it wants cause it's a whole other planet.

Honestly, Texas is so head-and-shoulders above most other states when it comes to signing, that I'm only about two inches away from trusting their judgment over that of the FHWA.

Nah. Texas is kind of a shitshow to me after my trip to Austin last year. Their level of expansion is great, but some of it is really not thought out well at all. And I question the quality of the construction itself as well.

I dislike their attachment to Clearview as well.
I have a love or hate with Clearview, and to be honest it's dependent on how it's installed... sometimes it looks okay, other times it's hideous. Overall, I still prefer FHWA and it looks far better, but I can tolerate Clearview.

Texas has done it mostly decent, to be honest, to the point it hasn't bothered me anymore. My biggest gripe about Texas would be their work zones... they are seemingly always dangerous, narrow lanes, abrupt shifts, barely visible lines, poor signage, barriers that are never straight (random bounce back and forth and jut out into the small "shoulder"  space randomly, etc.

Sometimes speed limits are inconsistent, but that's more of a small gripe than anything. I'd rather deal with a random 65 mph or 70 mph rural zone (as opposed to 75 mph), then a 55 mph in another state.

And that leads to probably one of my more favorable qualities about Texas... speed limits. The inconsistent, and oddball areas aside, you will most likely see consistent 70-75 mph speed limits in rural areas, regardless of being a two lane road or 6 lane urban interstate. Most states, on the other hand, simply artificially restrict speed based on classification - if there's an intersection, can be no higher than 55 mph, etc. which is incredibly annoying.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 20, 2023, 10:01:32 AM
Yeah, Texas is ultimately what stopped me disliking Clearview.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 20, 2023, 10:20:37 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Yx4SZEzeCCSip3rx9
The two side by side enhanced mile markers for the transition of I-290 west into I-395 south in Auburn, MA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on March 20, 2023, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 20, 2023, 10:20:37 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Yx4SZEzeCCSip3rx9
The two side by side enhanced mile markers for the transition of I-290 west into I-395 south in Auburn, MA.
There used to be similar mile markers where NJ 55 ends 20 miles early and transitions to NJ 47. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3278654,-74.995212,3a,21y,170.19h,84.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWoh3o5M0y1NRcIFYQgoSkg!2e0!5s20111001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
At the time enhanced mile markers were not the norm in NJ. In 2018 NJDOT upgraded that area to all enhanced mile markers removing the above setup in the process, moving the two mile markers further apart, and making the NJ 47 one no longer visible to traffic entering rom NJ 55, presumably to more accurately reflect where the actual 20 and 35 mile points are. Personally I find the END 55 JCT 47 sign that was always there more than adequate. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3488942,-74.9992764,3a,75y,138.41h,84.38t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s-LTu3gfeqwcC0oHoQrAEig!2e0!5s20221001T000000!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on March 21, 2023, 02:14:53 PM
Two irregular speed signs in Astoria: one with "MILES" (https://goo.gl/maps/8dqMfWF2dwpk9SEN7) that doesn't look particularly old, and a black and white advisory speed (https://goo.gl/maps/CeVgFAfuxExhAEbU6) that replaced a regular speed sign on a school zone assembly.
(https://i.imgur.com/ciDp0UC.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/DZ4Fa4J.jpg)
Unfortunately I didn't think of taking a pic of the "MILES" one and GSV hasn't been there since 2007.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 22, 2023, 11:26:40 AM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on March 21, 2023, 02:14:53 PMa black and white advisory speed (https://goo.gl/maps/CeVgFAfuxExhAEbU6) that replaced a regular speed sign on a school zone assembly.

"WHEN CHILDREN ARE PRESENT" implies it's regulatory, not advisory, but that's just my interpretation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 22, 2023, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: tckma on March 22, 2023, 11:26:40 AM

Quote from: CovalenceSTU on March 21, 2023, 02:14:53 PMa black and white advisory speed (https://goo.gl/maps/CeVgFAfuxExhAEbU6) that replaced a regular speed sign on a school zone assembly.

"WHEN CHILDREN ARE PRESENT" implies it's regulatory, not advisory, but that's just my interpretation.

The others (https://goo.gl/maps/gaLjV53KH6AYVARX8) around the area still have the Oregon-standard regulatory speed limit sign, so yes, I'd say that's the intention.  But what it really is?  It's a sign with no legal definition.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on March 22, 2023, 01:04:10 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 22, 2023, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: tckma on March 22, 2023, 11:26:40 AM

Quote from: CovalenceSTU on March 21, 2023, 02:14:53 PMa black and white advisory speed (https://goo.gl/maps/CeVgFAfuxExhAEbU6) that replaced a regular speed sign on a school zone assembly.

"WHEN CHILDREN ARE PRESENT" implies it's regulatory, not advisory, but that's just my interpretation.

The others (https://goo.gl/maps/gaLjV53KH6AYVARX8) around the area still have the Oregon-standard regulatory speed limit sign, so yes, I'd say that's the intention.  But what it really is?  It's a sign with no legal definition.

If you go back to 2007 (https://goo.gl/maps/rgawh54VaHDPWH6r8) there was a speed sign there too (so it's should be regulatory), but a warning sign with a regulatory background is rather ambiguous and isn't supposed to be created anyways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 22, 2023, 02:08:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 22, 2023, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: tckma on March 22, 2023, 11:26:40 AM

Quote from: CovalenceSTU on March 21, 2023, 02:14:53 PMa black and white advisory speed (https://goo.gl/maps/CeVgFAfuxExhAEbU6) that replaced a regular speed sign on a school zone assembly.

"WHEN CHILDREN ARE PRESENT" implies it's regulatory, not advisory, but that's just my interpretation.

The others (https://goo.gl/maps/gaLjV53KH6AYVARX8) around the area still have the Oregon-standard regulatory speed limit sign, so yes, I'd say that's the intention.  But what it really is?  It's a sign with no legal definition.

I'm not the expert (surprise), but I would think in the absence of undisputable verbiage (e.g. SPEED LIMIT) the background color takes precedence over the sizing dimensions.  I read this one as regulatory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 22, 2023, 04:32:56 PM
I just found a yellow YIELD sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8596083,-77.0467993,3a,75y,233.32h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEIMWYpON49l-OpgW4Dd3hg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (unsure that it is still there) from 2013 GSV near US 17 BUS in Williamston, NC. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(https://i.imgur.com/AtAZDQU.jpeg)

Never seen this before, I should make a trip up here at some point to get a picture of it lol
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on March 23, 2023, 09:14:10 AM
Not a normal road name sign near Culpeper, VA:

(https://i.postimg.cc/L6t2bMx1/6-CF1228-D-8555-4-C94-809-C-7-EE5-D1-B60-CBF.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 24, 2023, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(https://i.imgur.com/AtAZDQU.jpeg)

Never seen this before, I should make a trip up here at some point to get a picture of it lol

And it's marked E-911, not as a county route (presumably some sort of emergency services locator, maybe some identifier you give the 911 operator?).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 24, 2023, 10:42:57 AM

Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(https://i.imgur.com/AtAZDQU.jpeg)

Never seen this before, I should make a trip up here at some point to get a picture of it lol

And it's marked E-911, not as a county route (presumably some sort of emergency services locator, maybe some identifier you give the 911 operator?).

I think so.  Here is the sequence of signage:

https://goo.gl/maps/jjtBV7Ch1zrwb4hWA – Blue 'GREENE COUNTY 560' pentagon shield
https://goo.gl/maps/ThZ5aCzrZJbfcg678 – Small red '560' rectangle
https://goo.gl/maps/6V9ckpqVR3YB5KvKA – Red 'E 911 560' pentagon shield

I see more than one news article online complaining about stolen E911 signs in Greene County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 24, 2023, 02:52:58 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/BANJRGG8FxfRYUpi6
The way the Massachusetts Turnpike is abbreviated as one word Masspike.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 24, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

How about a green one? (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4536153,-105.0706597,3a,25y,91.1h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYHchzghFMbW35tLyYA_mpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
How about regular blue one, but with a weird county route number? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5621282,-109.0999449,3a,15y,303.19h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUdpv1UBlsWRYKUQ-oy4qDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
What about a pair of them? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8998614,-109.1475016,3a,15y,243.08h,85.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D274.8922%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
7WC, 1AB, and 8WC not weird enough county route numbers for ya? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9056677,-109.1788492,3a,19.2y,145.11h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOOUzljyxwBZLjriHNmzeLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
County Route 3 what? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4948763,-108.8896332,3a,21.9y,262.16h,95.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTPWwJr4X3z3u3WHdKNraBQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 24, 2023, 03:12:08 PM
As long as we're talking about Park County, Wyoming and its weird county route numbers, neighboring Big Horn County, Wyoming is a bit more sane, as can be seen by  the intersection of County Road 11 1/2 and County Lane 12 (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8257455,-108.3831435,3a,45.3y,59.9h,78.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqWH6DW2j7Vwzcs040tSqNQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).

When I used to do Waze map cleanup in Wyoming, I swear I saw something like "County Road 18 3/4."  Can't seem to find it now.  Most counties there seem to have a sequential system where County Roads are generally north-south and County Lanes are generally east-west, with the numbers increasing to the south and east.  But if they stick a new road inbetween two others it gets a 1/2 or a 3/4, and you'd often see H instead of 1/2, like County Road 2H.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 24, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
D 5/8 Road in Grand Junction for your viewing pleasure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg5V5cty/D-5-8-Road.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 24, 2023, 02:53:34 PM

Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

How about a green one? (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4536153,-105.0706597,3a,25y,91.1h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYHchzghFMbW35tLyYA_mpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Except that green pentagons are normal for Douglas County, CO.  See here (https://goo.gl/maps/PXzCPPCZxTXSaddV6) and here (https://goo.gl/maps/AH6kGiFBd1hdjX5L7), for example.  Red pentagons are not normal for Greene County, AR.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 24, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
D 5/8 Road in Grand Junction for your viewing pleasure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg5V5cty/D-5-8-Road.png)


Oh yeah, those are all over GJ.  For example, here is the intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/t6WQ1W1C1CqvXPwH9) of 28½ Road and B¾ Road.

Not weird enough?  How about B4/10 Road (https://goo.gl/maps/XsnH4LkajqSfmQo17)?

When our car overheated near Naturita and we took it to the mechanic in GJ, we walked through the intersection of 27½ Road and C½ Road to pick it up later.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 24, 2023, 06:52:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 24, 2023, 10:42:57 AM

Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

(https://i.imgur.com/AtAZDQU.jpeg)

Never seen this before, I should make a trip up here at some point to get a picture of it lol

And it's marked E-911, not as a county route (presumably some sort of emergency services locator, maybe some identifier you give the 911 operator?).

I think so.  Here is the sequence of signage:

https://goo.gl/maps/jjtBV7Ch1zrwb4hWA – Blue 'GREENE COUNTY 560' pentagon shield
https://goo.gl/maps/ThZ5aCzrZJbfcg678 – Small red '560' rectangle
https://goo.gl/maps/6V9ckpqVR3YB5KvKA – Red 'E 911 560' pentagon shield

I see more than one news article online complaining about stolen E911 signs in Greene County.

I spent more time deciphering the hand-made sign in the background than I should have. "Dump Wood Chips, Leaves, Grass, Cups"? Why cups? (Oh, it says "Grass Clips" and the sign maker just sucks at writing.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on March 24, 2023, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 24, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

How about a green one? (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4536153,-105.0706597,3a,25y,91.1h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYHchzghFMbW35tLyYA_mpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
How about regular blue one, but with a weird county route number? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5621282,-109.0999449,3a,15y,303.19h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUdpv1UBlsWRYKUQ-oy4qDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
What about a pair of them? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8998614,-109.1475016,3a,15y,243.08h,85.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D274.8922%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
7WC, 1AB, and 8WC not weird enough county route numbers for ya? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9056677,-109.1788492,3a,19.2y,145.11h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOOUzljyxwBZLjriHNmzeLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
County Route 3 what? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4948763,-108.8896332,3a,21.9y,262.16h,95.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTPWwJr4X3z3u3WHdKNraBQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)

Lake County, IL likes to do the opposite for its county route numbers: letter followed by numbers (https://goo.gl/maps/dDtkyU5fDV4Beurb7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 25, 2023, 05:04:25 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 24, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
D 5/8 Road in Grand Junction for your viewing pleasure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg5V5cty/D-5-8-Road.png)

That's not bad...it's when you have to tell people you live on "Effin One Half Road" (F-½ Road) or any of the other fragmented F Roads in Mesa County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on March 25, 2023, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 24, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
D 5/8 Road in Grand Junction for your viewing pleasure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg5V5cty/D-5-8-Road.png)


Oh yeah, those are all over GJ.  For example, here is the intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/t6WQ1W1C1CqvXPwH9) of 28½ Road and B¾ Road.

Not weird enough?  How about B4/10 Road (https://goo.gl/maps/XsnH4LkajqSfmQo17)?

When our car overheated near Naturita and we took it to the mechanic in GJ, we walked through the intersection of 27½ Road and C½ Road to pick it up later.
It makes you wonder, if they have to ever use decimals - I mean what if it's G 29/53 Road or something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 26, 2023, 12:00:34 AM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on March 25, 2023, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 24, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
D 5/8 Road in Grand Junction for your viewing pleasure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg5V5cty/D-5-8-Road.png)


Oh yeah, those are all over GJ.  For example, here is the intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/t6WQ1W1C1CqvXPwH9) of 28½ Road and B¾ Road.

Not weird enough?  How about B4/10 Road (https://goo.gl/maps/XsnH4LkajqSfmQo17)?

When our car overheated near Naturita and we took it to the mechanic in GJ, we walked through the intersection of 27½ Road and C½ Road to pick it up later.
It makes you wonder, if they have to ever use decimals - I mean what if it's G 29/53 Road or something?
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on March 25, 2023, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on March 24, 2023, 03:29:05 PM
D 5/8 Road in Grand Junction for your viewing pleasure.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg5V5cty/D-5-8-Road.png)


Oh yeah, those are all over GJ.  For example, here is the intersection (https://goo.gl/maps/t6WQ1W1C1CqvXPwH9) of 28½ Road and B¾ Road.

Not weird enough?  How about B4/10 Road (https://goo.gl/maps/XsnH4LkajqSfmQo17)?

When our car overheated near Naturita and we took it to the mechanic in GJ, we walked through the intersection of 27½ Road and C½ Road to pick it up later.
It makes you wonder, if they have to ever use decimals - I mean what if it's G 29/53 Road or something?

Usually the fractions.are either ½s, ¼s or tenths of a mile.   In the 1/10th mile category they do one of 3 ways:

G-1/10 Road
G.1 Road
G ¹ Road

And.on the outer North and South Fringes of Mesa County, you can have:

AA Road (once you've exhausted single-letter roads beyond Z Road)

BS Road -- and yes, there IS a road by that name in Glade Park -- (With the 'S' denoting the southern half of the county, or "B South Road")
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 26, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on March 24, 2023, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 24, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

How about a green one? (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4536153,-105.0706597,3a,25y,91.1h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYHchzghFMbW35tLyYA_mpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
How about regular blue one, but with a weird county route number? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5621282,-109.0999449,3a,15y,303.19h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUdpv1UBlsWRYKUQ-oy4qDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
What about a pair of them? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8998614,-109.1475016,3a,15y,243.08h,85.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D274.8922%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
7WC, 1AB, and 8WC not weird enough county route numbers for ya? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9056677,-109.1788492,3a,19.2y,145.11h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOOUzljyxwBZLjriHNmzeLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
County Route 3 what? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4948763,-108.8896332,3a,21.9y,262.16h,95.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTPWwJr4X3z3u3WHdKNraBQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)

Lake County, IL likes to do the opposite for its county route numbers: letter followed by numbers (https://goo.gl/maps/dDtkyU5fDV4Beurb7)

Although probably unusual for the region, not especially strange generally: see Iowa and California county routes, for example. Oddballs like San Bernardino County 66 (old US 66, natch) are the exception, not the rule (contrast with Imperial County S80, old US 80).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on March 26, 2023, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on March 26, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on March 24, 2023, 11:02:23 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 24, 2023, 02:53:34 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on March 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PM
How about a red pentagon? (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1469929,-90.5099234,3a,19.6y,31.04h,76.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF88SacqhyCBwXydtmT70Zg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

How about a green one? (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4536153,-105.0706597,3a,25y,91.1h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYHchzghFMbW35tLyYA_mpg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
How about regular blue one, but with a weird county route number? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5621282,-109.0999449,3a,15y,303.19h,91.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUdpv1UBlsWRYKUQ-oy4qDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
What about a pair of them? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8998614,-109.1475016,3a,15y,243.08h,85.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNMbGCM3VMuIOmkZvV-nQSg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D274.8922%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
7WC, 1AB, and 8WC not weird enough county route numbers for ya? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9056677,-109.1788492,3a,19.2y,145.11h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOOUzljyxwBZLjriHNmzeLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
County Route 3 what? (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.4948763,-108.8896332,3a,21.9y,262.16h,95.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTPWwJr4X3z3u3WHdKNraBQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)

Lake County, IL likes to do the opposite for its county route numbers: letter followed by numbers (https://goo.gl/maps/dDtkyU5fDV4Beurb7)

Although probably unusual for the region, not especially strange generally: see Iowa and California county routes, for example. Oddballs like San Bernardino County 66 (old US 66, natch) are the exception, not the rule (contrast with Imperial County S80, old US 80).

Even stuff like J59 and J132 still fits the County Sign Route letter convention.  I believe San Bernardino County Route 66 is the only "officially"  designated Sign County Route without a letter suffix.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 27, 2023, 10:20:11 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
Except that green pentagons are normal for Douglas County, CO.  See here (https://goo.gl/maps/PXzCPPCZxTXSaddV6) and here (https://goo.gl/maps/AH6kGiFBd1hdjX5L7), for example.  Red pentagons are not normal for Greene County, AR.

What's the official word on using the blue pentagon?  Is that MUTCD-standard?  I know a lot of county route signage doesn't use the blue pentagon, particularly in Wisconsin and Missouri which have lettered county routes.

When I saw that green pentagon I posted on a business trip to the Littleton area, it struck me as unusual, and non-compliant.  It may be normal for Douglas County, but is it compliant?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 27, 2023, 10:27:54 AM
^^ The blue pentagon is MUTCD standard.  Wisconsin has their own ideas on why they use something different.  "Used for major county routes only".  Missouri letter routes are supplemental state routes and not county highways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 27, 2023, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: tckma on March 27, 2023, 10:20:11 AM

Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
Except that green pentagons are normal for Douglas County, CO.  See here (https://goo.gl/maps/PXzCPPCZxTXSaddV6) and here (https://goo.gl/maps/AH6kGiFBd1hdjX5L7), for example.  Red pentagons are not normal for Greene County, AR.

What's the official word on using the blue pentagon?  Is that MUTCD-standard?  I know a lot of county route signage doesn't use the blue pentagon, particularly in Wisconsin and Missouri which have lettered county routes.

When I saw that green pentagon I posted on a business trip to the Littleton area, it struck me as unusual, and non-compliant.  It may be normal for Douglas County, but is it compliant?

Blue pentagons are the standard, yes.  But notice the bolded part...

Quote from: Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, 2009 Edition
Chapter 2D – Guide Signs–Conventional Roads

§ 2D.11 – Design of Route Signs

Standard:

01 – The "Standard Highway Signs and Markings" book shall be used for designing route signs. Other route sign designs shall be established by the authority having jurisdiction.

[...]

13 – If county road authorities elect to establish and identify a special system of important county roads, a statewide policy for such signing shall be established that includes a uniform numbering system to uniquely identify each route. The County Route (M1-6) sign shall consist of a pentagon shape with a yellow county name and route number and border on a blue background. County Route signs displaying two digits or the equivalent (letter and numeral, or two letters) shall be a minimum size of 18 x 18 inches; those carrying three digits or the equivalent shall be a minimum size of 24 x 24 inches.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on March 27, 2023, 10:41:25 PM
Northwest New Mexico has 3 Pentagon styles.

FARMINGTON Area:
- Standard yellow-on-blue for county-maintained roads.
- Red-on-white for Non-county maintained roads, or NCM's

SHIPROCK/Navajo Indian reservation area:
- White-on-green pentagons.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 28, 2023, 11:50:35 AM
Quote from: tckma on March 27, 2023, 10:20:11 AM
Quote from: kphoger on March 24, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
Except that green pentagons are normal for Douglas County, CO.  See here (https://goo.gl/maps/PXzCPPCZxTXSaddV6) and here (https://goo.gl/maps/AH6kGiFBd1hdjX5L7), for example.  Red pentagons are not normal for Greene County, AR.

What's the official word on using the blue pentagon?  Is that MUTCD-standard?  I know a lot of county route signage doesn't use the blue pentagon, particularly in Wisconsin and Missouri which have lettered county routes.

When I saw that green pentagon I posted on a business trip to the Littleton area, it struck me as unusual, and non-compliant.  It may be normal for Douglas County, but is it compliant?

Speaking of which, I found a faded green Boulder County 132 shield on SH 119 last week, but couldn't get a shot of it...I wasn't feeling too brave in low evening light.

Looking back, there's a dirt lot up ahead of the intersection which should be a safe place to park.

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.005592,-105.3488375,3a,39.4y,275.54h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2wu9Ws_R-YYp1fLIzD4vSw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 28, 2023, 12:10:39 PM
For those interested in Colorado's county road shields, Matt Salek (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7229) has a page about them on his now-defunct site.  Nearly all of the images are dead links, but the info is still there in text form.

https://www.mesalek.com/colo/countynum.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 29, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
Bambi has a lot to answer for:

(https://i.imgur.com/3crCoRK.png)

(This drawing comes from the proyecto de construcción for a contract advertised by the Madrid autonomous community to make the M-501 corridor more permeable to wildlife.  The top panel is pattern-accurate, though the bottom one is not.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 29, 2023, 07:58:42 PM
I am unsure how to best explain the I-95 shield on the NB exit sign here.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218355817167290&set=a.10218355874488723)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 29, 2023, 08:20:20 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 29, 2023, 07:58:42 PM
I am unsure how to best explain the I-95 shield on the NB exit sign here.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218355817167290&set=a.10218355874488723)

They went (old) TxDOT-style and used a three-digit guide-sign shield for a two-digit route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2023, 08:02:19 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/qEvwzGVzHsM45wLm7
Route for direction banner on ME 3 on Mount Desert Island.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tckma on March 31, 2023, 12:02:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2023, 08:02:19 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/qEvwzGVzHsM45wLm7
Route for direction banner on ME 3 on Mount Desert Island.

I just looked at a map of ME-3.  Maine COULD do what Ontario does for the QEW, and sign control cities for the "direction."  "Ellsworth," "Ba Haba," and "Somesville" seem logical to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 31, 2023, 12:02:48 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 31, 2023, 08:02:19 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/qEvwzGVzHsM45wLm7
Route for direction banner on ME 3 on Mount Desert Island.

Oh, that's definitely weird.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on March 31, 2023, 02:08:07 PM
The last set of US 19/US 460 cutouts in Bluefield, Va., is gone. Replaced by this, as reported in the Sign Errors Facebook group.

(https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/338695511_1389503268275257_664634022473989948_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=V2Xvk-ryGZ4AX_s7zHp&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDGZefMKwxPhuTVZOxF7RMVFGGEy12SfnOAQIfY_tacRg&oe=642CFCE3)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2023, 02:26:35 PM
What is Scenic Downeast on a U.S. 1 guide in Ellsworth.?
https://goo.gl/maps/RKNCYijPwawFPW21A
Another unique guide.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on April 02, 2023, 01:17:23 AM
Merges from the left are sinister.

(https://i.imgur.com/fKwWe6D.png)

(Taken from the progetto esecutivo for ANAS contract BA 05/23, for rehabilitation work on the west part of the Foggia ring road.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 04, 2023, 01:21:26 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 02, 2023, 01:17:23 AM
Merges from the left are sinister.

(https://i.imgur.com/fKwWe6D.png)

(Taken from the progetto esecutivo for ANAS contract BA 05/23, for rehabilitation work on the west part of the Foggia ring road.)

I'm not sure I fully understand what that sign is trying to say.

If I was driving down the road, and had to make sense of the sign immediately, I would assume that it's saying something about a dangerous "confluence" ; of lanes, roads, not sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 04, 2023, 07:40:18 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 04, 2023, 01:21:26 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 02, 2023, 01:17:23 AM
Merges from the left are sinister.

(https://i.imgur.com/fKwWe6D.png)

(Taken from the progetto esecutivo for ANAS contract BA 05/23, for rehabilitation work on the west part of the Foggia ring road.)

I'm not sure I fully understand what that sign is trying to say.

If I was driving down the road, and had to make sense of the sign immediately, I would assume that it's saying something about a dangerous "confluence" ; of lanes, roads, not sure.

60 meters doesn't seem like a lot of time to react, unless it's a bike path.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 06, 2023, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: formulanone on April 04, 2023, 07:40:18 AM
60 meters doesn't seem like a lot of time to react, unless it's a bike path.

Woah, great point. I don't think I fully grasped that distance until you pointed it out. I think in my head, I was filling in an extra '0'.

60 meters of advanced warning for a merge(?) seems very short...perhaps that's why J N posted it, then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on April 07, 2023, 03:26:02 AM
I saw this very unique Japanese lane configuration sign on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/urbandesign/comments/12dfh81/mechanical_road_sign_in_japan/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 07, 2023, 08:31:17 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 04, 2023, 07:40:18 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 04, 2023, 01:21:26 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 02, 2023, 01:17:23 AM
Merges from the left are sinister.

(https://i.imgur.com/fKwWe6D.png)

(Taken from the progetto esecutivo for ANAS contract BA 05/23, for rehabilitation work on the west part of the Foggia ring road.)

I’m not sure I fully understand what that sign is trying to say.

If I was driving down the road, and had to make sense of the sign immediately, I would assume that it’s saying something about a dangerous “confluence”; of lanes, roads, not sure.

60 meters doesn't seem like a lot of time to react, unless it's a bike path.
Quote from: jakeroot on April 06, 2023, 06:28:12 PM

Woah, great point. I don't think I fully grasped that distance until you pointed it out. I think in my head, I was filling in an extra '0'.

60 meters of advanced warning for a merge(?) seems very short...perhaps that's why J N posted it, then.

Maybe that's why it's sinister. (I know, it's Latin root means "left".)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on April 07, 2023, 08:39:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2023, 08:31:17 AM
Maybe that's why it's sinister. (I know, it's Latin root means "left".)

If you ever watch F1, you may notice the Ferrari tire blankets are labelled in Italian (the other teams use English). While I recognize the Latin roots (I took six years of Latin), the word "Destro" for the front right still, all these years later, calls to mind a GI Joe cartoon character.

(https://www.grandprix247.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Sainz-Monza-5-2022.jpg)



Quote from: jakeroot on April 04, 2023, 01:21:26 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on April 02, 2023, 01:17:23 AM
Merges from the left are sinister.

(https://i.imgur.com/fKwWe6D.png)

(Taken from the progetto esecutivo for ANAS contract BA 05/23, for rehabilitation work on the west part of the Foggia ring road.)

I'm not sure I fully understand what that sign is trying to say.

If I was driving down the road, and had to make sense of the sign immediately, I would assume that it's saying something about a dangerous "confluence" ; of lanes, roads, not sure.

That's what it means. It's calling your attention to a merge from the left in 60 m.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 07, 2023, 09:10:48 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2023, 08:39:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2023, 08:31:17 AM
Maybe that's why it's sinister. (I know, it's Latin root means "left".)

If you ever watch F1...

just a little too much
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 07, 2023, 09:49:02 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on April 07, 2023, 08:39:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 07, 2023, 08:31:17 AM
Maybe that's why it's sinister. (I know, it's Latin root means "left".)

If you ever watch F1, you may notice the Ferrari tire blankets are labelled in Italian (the other teams use English). While I recognize the Latin roots (I took six years of Latin), the word "Destro" for the front right still, all these years later, calls to mind a GI Joe cartoon character.

(https://www.grandprix247.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Sainz-Monza-5-2022.jpg)

Doesn't matter what language Ferrari use on their tyre blankets, they'll always be speaking their native language of Clown.  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 07, 2023, 08:08:35 PM
A very odd US 501 and US 701 assembly in Conway.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218528611727046&set=a.10218528634767622)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: odditude on April 09, 2023, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 28, 2023, 12:10:39 PM
For those interested in Colorado's county road shields, Matt Salek (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7229) has a page about them on his now-defunct site.  Nearly all of the images are dead links, but the info is still there in text form.

https://www.mesalek.com/colo/countynum.html

Wayback Machine to the rescue (https://web.archive.org/web/20170610210534/https://www.mesalek.com/colo/countynum.html)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 10, 2023, 01:39:03 PM
Next 3 exits is a little overboard.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51232215372
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 10, 2023, 09:29:28 PM
Brand new sign installed today on the corner of my home lot, opposite the side street.  The post was installed Friday and I had a hunch the sign would be something like this.  I don't think this is in the MUTCD; it's a combination of a R3-2 (no left turn) and a R3-27 (no straight ahead).  Installed for additional control of the weekday morning and afternoon parade of mom-mobiles dropping off and picking up the little tykes from the parochial school down the street.  Doesn't affect me except that it's one more obstacle I'll have to face when mowing the lawn.

(https://i.imgur.com/qeXrjd5.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 11, 2023, 12:38:56 PM
This one with a later added US 17 shield couldn't have the engineer gauge it out first.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52810263665_0347b29a68_4k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 11, 2023, 08:30:05 PM
All of those signs (as well as several others in Wilmington) needs to be replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 11, 2023, 09:09:31 PM
Yes, I photographed that sign last month.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 11, 2023, 09:18:02 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 11, 2023, 12:38:56 PM
This one with a later added US 17 shield couldn't have the engineer gauge it out first.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52810263665_0347b29a68_4k.jpg)
Jesus, I know roadgeeks love when old road signs stay up, but with how unreadable this is, it should be replaced.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 12, 2023, 03:53:00 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 11, 2023, 09:18:02 PM
Jesus, I know roadgeeks love when old road signs stay up, but with how unreadable this is, it should be replaced.

Roadgeeks love when good old road signs stay up. Those suck.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 12, 2023, 04:16:30 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 12, 2023, 03:53:00 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 11, 2023, 09:18:02 PM
Jesus, I know roadgeeks love when old road signs stay up, but with how unreadable this is, it should be replaced.

Roadgeeks love when good old road signs stay up. Those suck.

Unpopular opinion, but a lot of old signs sucked when they were put up. I feel like too many roadgeeks consider old to be automatically good, which isn't always true (I-190 in NY says hi (https://goo.gl/maps/TLtepQGRN92hH15U7)).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 12, 2023, 05:18:08 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 12, 2023, 04:16:30 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 12, 2023, 03:53:00 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 11, 2023, 09:18:02 PM
Jesus, I know roadgeeks love when old road signs stay up, but with how unreadable this is, it should be replaced.

Roadgeeks love when good old road signs stay up. Those suck.

Unpopular opinion, but a lot of old signs sucked when they were put up. I feel like too many roadgeeks consider old to be automatically good, which isn't always true (I-190 in NY says hi (https://goo.gl/maps/TLtepQGRN92hH15U7)).

"Old" in this case means "anything before 1970".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on April 12, 2023, 07:04:33 AM
Quote from: odditude on April 09, 2023, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 28, 2023, 12:10:39 PM
For those interested in Colorado's county road shields, Matt Salek (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7229) has a page about them on his now-defunct site.  Nearly all of the images are dead links, but the info is still there in text form.

https://www.mesalek.com/colo/countynum.html

Wayback Machine to the rescue (https://web.archive.org/web/20170610210534/https://www.mesalek.com/colo/countynum.html)

This was quite informative, actually. I never have been able to figure out why we have roads like "54G" and "52E".
TIL.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 10, 2023, 09:29:28 PM
Brand new sign installed today on the corner of my home lot, opposite the side street.  The post was installed Friday and I had a hunch the sign would be something like this.  I don't think this is in the MUTCD; it's a combination of a R3-2 (no left turn) and a R3-27 (no straight ahead).  Installed for additional control of the weekday morning and afternoon parade of mom-mobiles dropping off and picking up the little tykes from the parochial school down the street.  Doesn't affect me except that it's one more obstacle I'll have to face when mowing the lawn.

(https://i.imgur.com/qeXrjd5.jpg)

I think if I lived there, I'd order a custom sign that says the same thing as the lower sign and get rid of that Clearview.  :-D

As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on April 12, 2023, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.
To me, it just sounds like some people who can't stand noise moved next to a school for some reason and then complained that there's noise near the school. And towns love to bend over to just about any idiot without any decision making.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jrStudios on April 12, 2023, 11:24:04 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/tmDVrMG/Screenshot-2023-04-12-11-21-06-AM.png)
Photo from a 2007 capture via Google Maps.

This is a weird one.
This sign was likely a 1989 holdout. (If you wonder why I had that date, look at the highway plan photo in the Kentucky tab)

There is no mention of I-264 on this sign, therefore likely breaking MUTCD rules, despite Kentucky using the national MUTCD standard.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 11:25:51 AM
It's basically another form of NIMBYism, and one of the dumbest variants at that. Schools are inherently local entities, as opposed to venues or shopping centers. So the people you're upset about are... your neighbors or close-to neighbors.

I live one house away from a school. Parents line the street in the morning and the afternoon on school days. Yes, it gets a bit chaotic, but only for about 20 minutes each time. The morning isn't even that bad, since that's more staggered. And I'm not even home to see either of them, I'm at work! So there's no reason I'd bug the village to do something about it. There's nothing to fix.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 13, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.

My neighborhood does nothing of the sort, and it's incredibly frustrating that parents are allowed to completely disregard the clearly posted parking rules ("No Parking Any Time"), drive in the bike lane, etc., because they are In Line To Pick Up Their Kid. This is despite the fact that the street is only wide enough to fit three cars abreast, so if there are people In Line (which apparently confers the status effects "Better Than You" and "Immune To All Laws"), you basically have a one lane road to work with, and bikes can just fuck right off, I guess.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 13, 2023, 09:29:00 AM
Wow, I didn't mean to derail this thread; I was just posting the sign because I thought it was unique and I mentioned the reason as an aside.  But I'll note, in this case it's entirely for traffic control and not the result of any neighborhood complaining.  The sign faces northbound side street traffic.  Making a left turn (onto the main road, by the way, not another side street) or going across the main road can be tricky because the line of stopped westbound left-turning cars obstructs seeing westbound thru traffic that does not stop.  There have been a few crashes and other near-hits.  For my city, that's a lot.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: MATraveler128 on April 13, 2023, 11:12:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/V7cN8Ug.jpg)

Oversized I-95 shield on Massachusetts paddle sign in Wakefield. Looks to be put up as an afterthought.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on April 13, 2023, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on April 13, 2023, 11:12:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/V7cN8Ug.jpg)

Oversized I-95 shield on Massachusetts paddle sign in Wakefield. Looks to be put up as an afterthought.

Is the I-95 shield covering a MA 128 shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 5foot14 on April 13, 2023, 02:20:31 PM
Quote from: DRMan on April 13, 2023, 02:13:20 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on April 13, 2023, 11:12:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/V7cN8Ug.jpg)

Oversized I-95 shield on Massachusetts paddle sign in Wakefield. Looks to be put up as an afterthought.

Is the I-95 shield covering a MA 128 shield?
No the oversized 95 is covering a faded, almost white, 95 shield

SM-A515U

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on April 13, 2023, 09:41:01 PM
Quote from: Amaury on November 17, 2022, 06:28:56 PMUnique reassurance shields with a black background and white text in Monitor, Washington: https://goo.gl/maps/MVwR2Pwk3p5Jc8p68

For comparison to the normal ones: https://goo.gl/maps/XcdgGcSe6xM8UFkT9

Another one like the first link above with the US 2 and SR 17 concurrency: https://goo.gl/maps/TeiicLWAB85xKERL7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 14, 2023, 08:38:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 13, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.

My neighborhood does nothing of the sort, and it's incredibly frustrating that parents are allowed to completely disregard the clearly posted parking rules ("No Parking Any Time"), drive in the bike lane, etc., because they are In Line To Pick Up Their Kid. This is despite the fact that the street is only wide enough to fit three cars abreast, so if there are people In Line (which apparently confers the status effects "Better Than You" and "Immune To All Laws"), you basically have a one lane road to work with, and bikes can just fuck right off, I guess.

I grew up in the days when parents *rarely* would pick up their kids from school and they either walked home by themselves or took a bus ‐- and even then you didn't j have any parents waiting at the corner bus stops.

Also, in my neck of the woods, crossing guards were.*school kids* which were "trained" by the local AAA affiliate. 

This was back in the 70s, when neighborhoods were much safer and trusting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on April 14, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 11, 2023, 09:18:02 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 11, 2023, 12:38:56 PM
This one with a later added US 17 shield couldn't have the engineer gauge it out first.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52810263665_0347b29a68_4k.jpg)
Jesus, I know roadgeeks love when old road signs stay up, but with how unreadable this is, it should be replaced.

what exactly is "unreadable" on this sign assembly? Sure, i have seen better-looking signs. It still gets the message across though. Stay straight for Wrightsville Beach. 98% of drivers are not following US 17 or US 76 through there anyway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on April 15, 2023, 05:28:00 AM
"North" is unreadable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 15, 2023, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: Amaury on April 15, 2023, 05:28:00 AM
"North" is unreadable.
Then how did you read it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 15, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 13, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.

My neighborhood does nothing of the sort, and it's incredibly frustrating that parents are allowed to completely disregard the clearly posted parking rules ("No Parking Any Time"), drive in the bike lane, etc., because they are In Line To Pick Up Their Kid. This is despite the fact that the street is only wide enough to fit three cars abreast, so if there are people In Line (which apparently confers the status effects "Better Than You" and "Immune To All Laws"), you basically have a one lane road to work with, and bikes can just fuck right off, I guess.

Maybe that's a failure of the city to not provide adequate places to pick up then. Parents shouldn't be allowed to go and sit everywhere.

The street where I live saw parents parking on both sides. Then a few years ago, signs were installed prohibiting parking on one side because it was too tight. Most people have obeyed it and only park on the one side, which keeps things more manageable. But if you completely block parking, stopping, or standing in a wide radius around the school on all streets, that's bull.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on April 15, 2023, 10:58:55 AM


Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 15, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 13, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.

My neighborhood does nothing of the sort, and it's incredibly frustrating that parents are allowed to completely disregard the clearly posted parking rules ("No Parking Any Time"), drive in the bike lane, etc., because they are In Line To Pick Up Their Kid. This is despite the fact that the street is only wide enough to fit three cars abreast, so if there are people In Line (which apparently confers the status effects "Better Than You" and "Immune To All Laws"), you basically have a one lane road to work with, and bikes can just fuck right off, I guess.

Maybe that's a failure of the city to not provide adequate places to pick up then. Parents shouldn't be allowed to go and sit everywhere.

The street where I live saw parents parking on both sides. Then a few years ago, signs were installed prohibiting parking on one side because it was too tight. Most people have obeyed it and only park on the one side, which keeps things more manageable. But if you completely block parking, stopping, or standing in a wide radius around the school on all streets, that's bull.

Your paragraphs are contradictory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on April 15, 2023, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2023, 09:04:26 AMThen how did you read it?

I should have clarified. Looking at a still picture, the one that's heavily faded on the left is easier to see, especially when zooming in. Drivers just driving by, however, aren't going to see it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 15, 2023, 05:15:22 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/RXVfpCyc4pHSUNuz6
A text for NY 25A near Citi Field in Flushing, NY still exists.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on April 15, 2023, 11:07:08 PM
Quote from: Amaury on April 15, 2023, 04:02:30 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2023, 09:04:26 AMThen how did you read it?

I should have clarified. Looking at a still picture, the one that's heavily faded on the left is easier to see, especially when zooming in. Drivers just driving by, however, aren't going to see it.

yea with the way folks drive in Wilmington, I can almost guarantee no one is looking at that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on April 16, 2023, 02:20:02 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 15, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
But if you completely block parking, stopping, or standing in a wide radius around the school on all streets, that's bull.

It's no parking any time up and down the street that the school is on, not just around the school, because it has bike lanes. So in order to park on that street, you have to park in the bike lane. Which means it's not very effective as a bike lane anymore.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 16, 2023, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Rothman on April 15, 2023, 10:58:55 AM


Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 15, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 13, 2023, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 12, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
As a side note, I find it incredibly frustrating the way neighborhoods get to block parents from picking up or dropping off kids from school. I don't think it's fair, unless your streets are private. Public streets should be fair game. Otherwise you end up funneling everyone to one or two locations and it just doesn't work.

My neighborhood does nothing of the sort, and it's incredibly frustrating that parents are allowed to completely disregard the clearly posted parking rules ("No Parking Any Time"), drive in the bike lane, etc., because they are In Line To Pick Up Their Kid. This is despite the fact that the street is only wide enough to fit three cars abreast, so if there are people In Line (which apparently confers the status effects "Better Than You" and "Immune To All Laws"), you basically have a one lane road to work with, and bikes can just fuck right off, I guess.

Maybe that's a failure of the city to not provide adequate places to pick up then. Parents shouldn't be allowed to go and sit everywhere.

The street where I live saw parents parking on both sides. Then a few years ago, signs were installed prohibiting parking on one side because it was too tight. Most people have obeyed it and only park on the one side, which keeps things more manageable. But if you completely block parking, stopping, or standing in a wide radius around the school on all streets, that's bull.

Your paragraphs are contradictory.

Which paragraphs? I said that there should be some restrictions as to where parents should go, but they shouldn't be so restrictive to the point you have no options. Prohibit obvious things like stopping on major roads and arterials. Or prohibit parking on one side of a neighborhood street if it's narrow. But don't place blanket restrictions across entire neighborhoods because neighbors can't handle cars being parked on their road for 20 minutes.



Quote from: Scott5114 on April 16, 2023, 02:20:02 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 15, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
But if you completely block parking, stopping, or standing in a wide radius around the school on all streets, that's bull.

It's no parking any time up and down the street that the school is on, not just around the school, because it has bike lanes. So in order to park on that street, you have to park in the bike lane. Which means it's not very effective as a bike lane anymore.

That's fine. That makes sense. Alternatively, the city could've also added some parking bump-outs around the school to accommodate a handful of cars without blocking the bike lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AzNate on April 19, 2023, 12:13:22 PM
New Mexico signage is perfect for this thread. I think this sign on I-25 in New Mexico is one of the weirdest I've ever seen.
(https://roads.aznate.tech/assets/special/i25n-wwaldocyn.jpg)

Also on I-25, is this seemingly random Clearview sign.
(https://roads.aznate.tech/assets/special/i25n-snm599.jpg)

More Clearview in Farmington, NM, along with signs that should not be green at all.
(https://roads.aznate.tech/assets/special/scott-us641.jpg)

Oh, and this is also on I-25.
(https://roads.aznate.tech/assets/special/i25n-cerrillos.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 19, 2023, 12:55:42 PM
North Avenue goes east, not I-95.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/5085876933_8e7c005440_c.jpg)
Should be TO between east and the I-95 and NJ Turnpike shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 19, 2023, 01:21:14 PM
A few months ago, I said in the thread that a billboard in Moab, UT on US 191 NORTH looked like it recycled an old freeway sign...  I was excited to see it in the distance coming from the south on my way home today..

Well, with all the recent fierce winds, the fabric for the actual billboard ad gave way, and the BGS is now on display as of today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/198139625@N03/albums/72177720307625887/

The bad news is that someone already defaced it, if you look closely at the close up shot -- although they are technically correct S this is US 191 NORTH...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on April 20, 2023, 12:24:24 AM
RE: New Mexico signs. It's been a while since I've seen anything quite that terrible. Those are definitely Worst Of. Aside from the Clearview sign, which actually looks... good?

New Mexico giving Oklahoma another run for their money.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 20, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again:  the roads and signage in New Mexico resemble those in "old" Mexico a lot more than they should.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on April 20, 2023, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 20, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again:  the roads and signage in New Mexico resemble those in "old" Mexico a lot more than they should.

I think I have counted at LEAST 5 different variations of the New Mexico State Route shields.  No conformity at all in the state.

Well. Except for the big orange road project signs that begin with "Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham"...Given the conditions of many of the state highways there, I wouldn't want to put my name out there in public --especially when the roads start to crumble again 3 or 4 years afterwards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AzNate on April 20, 2023, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on April 20, 2023, 12:24:24 AM
RE: New Mexico signs. It's been a while since I've seen anything quite that terrible. Those are definitely Worst Of. Aside from the Clearview sign, which actually looks... good?

New Mexico giving Oklahoma another run for their money.

Yes, I was very surprised when I saw that Clearview sign in New Mexico (and outside of Farmington), especially since it actually looks good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 23, 2023, 01:14:05 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52081138617
Thru Traffic on Green only is interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 23, 2023, 09:55:23 PM
Two interesting signs in Weston, FL:

1.  The fully green FL 869 shield:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218562923584821&set=a.10218562958105684
2.  "ONLY I-75":  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218562927704924&set=a.10218562958105684
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 24, 2023, 06:24:04 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52843947454/
Interesting how they inform motorists that Publix Corporate Parkway is a private road.  Think its a great idea.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on April 25, 2023, 03:51:53 AM
This wouldn't particularly be interesting if it was in the US, but there is a giant backlit US MUTCD standard black-on-white "right turn ONLY" sign in Port Coquitlam, BC. The standard Canadian white-on-back sign is post-mounted nearby.

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2424876,-122.762491,3a,38.4y,182.83h,91.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNz86jkqtG8k7OkJbTgCyeg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 25, 2023, 12:26:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 24, 2023, 06:24:04 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52843947454/
Interesting how they inform motorists that Publix Corporate Parkway is a private road.  Think its a great idea.

That roundabout BGS reminds me a lot of Australia and New Zealand.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on April 25, 2023, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: bcroadguy on April 25, 2023, 03:51:53 AM
This wouldn't particularly be interesting if it was in the US, but there is a giant backlit US MUTCD standard black-on-white "right turn ONLY" sign in Port Coquitlam, BC. The standard Canadian white-on-back sign is post-mounted nearby.

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2424876,-122.762491,3a,38.4y,182.83h,91.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNz86jkqtG8k7OkJbTgCyeg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Complimenting this would be the Canadian-style white-on-black "only" arrows along Mercer Street in Seattle:

https://goo.gl/maps/q4oD5JfB7MNWe1ez8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 26, 2023, 12:51:25 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/zfMXYywG3aBnvARF8
I noticed that US 95 along its concurrency with BL I-10 in Quartsite, AZ is signed TO on all reassurance shielding there.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 27, 2023, 07:50:13 PM
The sign assembly here makes US 92 EB look like US 92 NB:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218635549160415&set=a.10218635675083563

4-29-2023:  I-Drive for International Dr:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218638536555098&set=a.10218638612556998
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 30, 2023, 03:58:55 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/cXnmkDJ2WeLMSBDF9
The NJTA in NJ using a brown border for Newark Airport like it's a park or historical place is bad.

Plus signing the NJ Turnpike for I-78 is bad as well, because if you're heading for the Turnpike South it's best to remain on the straight through route another 13 miles to where Exit 129 connects directly to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 01, 2023, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on April 27, 2023, 07:50:13 PM
4-29-2023:  I-Drive for International Dr:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218638536555098&set=a.10218638612556998

No reason that couldn't have been rendered as "Int'l Dr" which probably would've been better for recognition by non-locals.

Quote from: roadman65 on April 30, 2023, 03:58:55 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/cXnmkDJ2WeLMSBDF9
The NJTA in NJ using a brown border for Newark Airport like it's a park or historical place is bad.

Yeah, that's awful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 01, 2023, 01:10:24 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/YsyknWhP4k7RzBRw7
ADOT signs AZ 85 here as concurrent with I-8, but that's not the case. The I-8 EB shield should use a TO banner plus be also placed beneath the state route shield.  However it's an interesting find.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on May 01, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
The way Baltimore puts "OK" on their turn signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.320356,-76.5718927,3a,15y,127.96h,96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sTac4qeBiv8_5TaA6mNfNlw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DTac4qeBiv8_5TaA6mNfNlw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D102.76841%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 01, 2023, 04:44:48 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/mEtJBJtDwJdkTRMbA
A separate mast arm for a delayed green. Come on. You mean they can't attach that rinky dink sign to the signal arm.

BTW in case your wondering why a delayed green sign is needed is NJ's way to alert drivers that the opposing traffic has a permissive left turn phase prior to the change to green on your side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on May 01, 2023, 08:31:24 PM
The main mast arm is at an angle (though seemingly less of an angle than it used to be), so if they would have installed it on there, it would have looked something like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6185491,-122.351599,3a,15.3y,86.98h,98.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stiR7QScMIswssiXnNlpstw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtiR7QScMIswssiXnNlpstw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D245.86449%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en), which would be even worse. But using a bracket like what was used for the street name sign in the other direction would have solved that and avoided the sign being angled relative to the ground, which looks extremely silly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 01, 2023, 09:29:34 PM
What interest me is, now that you mentioned it, the street blade on the opposite signal arm is attached via an angled bracket to compensate for the angle of the mast arm to keep it straight. So the Delayed Green sign could have been attached in that type of assembly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 02, 2023, 07:27:46 AM
Abnormal county route shield along FL A1A in Key West:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218562815142110&set=a.10218562958105684
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 02, 2023, 09:12:44 PM
Abnormal assembly in Bennington, VT on VT 9 @ US 7.
https://goo.gl/maps/krxSZQpV2qPTabkx5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 02, 2023, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 02, 2023, 09:12:44 PM
Abnormal assembly in Bennington, VT on VT 9 @ US 7.
https://goo.gl/maps/krxSZQpV2qPTabkx5
Looks like they got rid of the old, cool traffic light there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 02, 2023, 10:26:20 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 02, 2023, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 02, 2023, 09:12:44 PM
Abnormal assembly in Bennington, VT on VT 9 @ US 7.
https://goo.gl/maps/krxSZQpV2qPTabkx5
Looks like they got rid of the old, cool traffic light there.
Yeah the two section four way signal for protected lefts.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 02, 2023, 11:29:18 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 02, 2023, 09:12:44 PM
Abnormal assembly in Bennington, VT on VT 9 @ US 7.
https://goo.gl/maps/krxSZQpV2qPTabkx5

Looks city-erected.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 03, 2023, 12:31:51 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/43UDqv3EQcut2qdJ6
The use of Next Exit and not Next Signal is odd, but the text shield is interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 03, 2023, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: vdeane on May 01, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
The way Baltimore puts "OK" on their turn signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.320356,-76.5718927,3a,15y,127.96h,96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sTac4qeBiv8_5TaA6mNfNlw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DTac4qeBiv8_5TaA6mNfNlw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D102.76841%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) is interesting.

The "OK" used to be semi-common around Las Vegas, but most instances I recall were phased out by the late-1990s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 03, 2023, 11:58:27 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/BckfkEaCgQycLZ9o7
The fact that that SR A1A is acknowledged without its partner SR 200 is odd considering that other route junctions sign them both and that street blades refer to the route as solo SR 200.

I'm guessing it has to do with SR 200 also being concurrent with US 301 here, and for those that understand FDOT mentality, state routes along US routes are not signed like GA to the north who is superfluous about US and State Road concurrencies.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 03, 2023, 06:35:52 PM
A lower-case stop sign leaving a Chick-Fil-A near Gainesville, GA:  https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10218683189471393&set=a.10218683440797676
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 03, 2023, 07:14:39 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 03, 2023, 06:35:52 PM
A lower-case stop sign leaving a Chick-Fil-A near Gainesville, GA:  https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10218683189471393&set=a.10218683440797676

This is a standard sign/design for all Chick-Fil-A's from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bcroadguy on May 04, 2023, 06:14:53 AM
I think 20th Street in Sammamish, WA is privately owned (it has no sidewalks and a driveway entrance), which makes this less interesting, but it has two very Dutch-style "Woonerf" (mixed use road) signs: 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5944073,-122.0307444,3a,70.7y,129.9h,84.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saLW-2NRxi6JCuCJ2eUsEAQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.593298,-122.031856,3a,75y,60.31h,88.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRXM-gdVSHg0nrcIgDBaCkw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on May 04, 2023, 07:00:10 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 01, 2023, 04:44:48 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/mEtJBJtDwJdkTRMbA
A separate mast arm for a delayed green. Come on. You mean they can't attach that rinky dink sign to the signal arm.

BTW in case your wondering why a delayed green sign is needed is NJ's way to alert drivers that the opposing traffic has a permissive left turn phase prior to the change to green on your side.

Virginia used this sign a lot in the past.  They would also use "advanced green" in the opposite direction
https://goo.gl/maps/V3ceZftZnu4MFZwo7

Pennsylvania wants you to "wait for green"
https://goo.gl/maps/Y7HPccqeJRgbAKvy7

 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 04, 2023, 05:27:24 PM
Green U-Turn sign on US 23 NB/US 441 NB between Franklin, NC, and Sylva, NC:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218683285633797&set=a.10218683440797676

Green NC 110 diamond in Canton, NC:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218683203111734&set=a.10218683440797676
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4AZJzXGt21BamakKA
Weird arrow on guide sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 05, 2023, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4AZJzXGt21BamakKA
Weird arrow on guide sign.
Well, it is NJ...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on May 05, 2023, 12:45:31 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 05, 2023, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4AZJzXGt21BamakKA
Weird arrow on guide sign.
Well, it is NJ...

"Point Pleasant" does seem an appropriate destination for an arrow weird.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 05, 2023, 12:56:39 PM
Very abnormal to see something like this at a secondary route junction in the middle of nowhere:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218683297274088&set=a.10218683440797676
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 05, 2023, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4AZJzXGt21BamakKA
Weird arrow on guide sign.
Well, it is NJ...

It's more weird that Post Road between Princeton Avenue and Princeton Post Road is got a WB 5.5 milepost on it even though the WB alignment is not assigned to it there.

The only reason why the split alignment is there is because of a left turn prohibition on EB NJ 88 where it changes alignment at NJ 70.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: akotchi on May 05, 2023, 04:41:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 05, 2023, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4AZJzXGt21BamakKA
Weird arrow on guide sign.
Well, it is NJ...

It's more weird that Post Road between Princeton Avenue and Princeton Post Road is got a WB 5.5 milepost on it even though the WB alignment is not assigned to it there.

The only reason why the split alignment is there is because of a left turn prohibition on EB NJ 88 where it changes alignment at NJ 70.
Not to mention the reassurance marker right next to it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 05, 2023, 08:43:08 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 05, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/4AZJzXGt21BamakKA
Weird arrow on guide sign.

That's a standard Type D arrow that has been horizontally stretched out of proportion.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on May 07, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
I know it's temporary, but why is it so large? Is that even the right font?

(https://i.postimg.cc/rsBXr7Qf/B562-EE21-AA9-E-4-AED-8-E35-CAC5-ABA1240-B.jpg)

There's more Detour SR-638 signs in the Stanardsville area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on May 08, 2023, 07:02:56 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on May 07, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
I know it's temporary, but why is it so large? Is that even the right font?

To me it looks like the font is Clearview 5WR. If you're not familiar with it, it's the font used in Texan guide signs.
In a shield like that you would usually find Gothic B.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 08, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on May 07, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
I know it's temporary, but why is it so large? Is that even the right font?

(https://i.postimg.cc/rsBXr7Qf/B562-EE21-AA9-E-4-AED-8-E35-CAC5-ABA1240-B.jpg)

There's more Detour SR-638 signs in the Stanardsville area.

I want to know what's on top of those US 33 signs way in the background. There appears to be four banners on each sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 08, 2023, 10:08:17 PM
^Yes, there are (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.2976637,-78.4352379,3a,37.5y,217.4h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swToMyY8Y3OdiUHCkUOdhoQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on May 08, 2023, 10:43:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 08, 2023, 09:24:24 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on May 07, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
I know it's temporary, but why is it so large? Is that even the right font?

(https://i.postimg.cc/rsBXr7Qf/B562-EE21-AA9-E-4-AED-8-E35-CAC5-ABA1240-B.jpg)

There's more Detour SR-638 signs in the Stanardsville area.

I want to know what's on top of those US 33 signs way in the background. There appears to be four banners on each sign.

TO
BYPASS
[EAST/WEST]
BUSINESS
US 33

They should just take out the TO BYPASS, though they'll have to put in an entirely new sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 09, 2023, 03:01:59 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/pX5PzE4NHySE2R596
The use of Va over VA is odd considering all state abbreviations are to be upper case letters.

Though I'm sure you can finds hundreds of signs with Va over VA within the commonwealth, it's still like Mass being used for MA or Miss for MS.

I posted this to represent all Va usage in Virginia as VDOT using Va on a lot of guides is the norm that's odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on May 09, 2023, 02:44:01 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 09, 2023, 03:01:59 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/pX5PzE4NHySE2R596
The use of Va over VA is odd considering all state abbreviations are to be upper case letters.

Though I'm sure you can finds hundreds of signs with Va over VA within the commonwealth, it's still like Mass being used for MA or Miss for MS.

I posted this to represent all Va usage in Virginia as VDOT using Va on a lot of guides is the norm that's odd.

Sorry, folks in the Old Dominion and also in the Mountain State were using the abbreviation "Va." and "W.Va." long before the Postal Service dreamt up the state abbreviations associated with Zip Codes.  I went to Va. Tech and others here went to UVa.  And the biggest city in that other Virginia is known as "Va. Beach".  Except that FHWA doesn't want to pay to put periods and apostrophes on the signs.  (Which leads to a different story about the Federal government meddling with official abbreviations and shortened names).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on May 09, 2023, 05:46:30 PM
Unique mile marker for milepost 14 on US Route 97 in Klickitat County, Washington, in the Satus Pass area.

Instead of just milepost 14, it's this:
https://goo.gl/maps/iyVjqPNbTMBYDG138 (looking north)
https://goo.gl/maps/s3VYLd33kizKZyMA7 (looking south)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 10, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Amaury on May 09, 2023, 05:46:30 PM
Unique mile marker for milepost 14 on US Route 97 in Klickitat County, Washington, in the Satus Pass area.

Instead of just milepost 14, it's this:
https://goo.gl/maps/iyVjqPNbTMBYDG138 (looking north)
https://goo.gl/maps/s3VYLd33kizKZyMA7 (looking south)

That's an indication of a milepost equation. Which means the route was realigned at some point and this is the point where the new and old alignments meet. An equation is used so that they can maintain continuity with the existing mileposting without having to update the mileposts of the whole highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 10, 2023, 03:56:52 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 10, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Amaury on May 09, 2023, 05:46:30 PM
Unique mile marker for milepost 14 on US Route 97 in Klickitat County, Washington, in the Satus Pass area.

Instead of just milepost 14, it's this:
https://goo.gl/maps/iyVjqPNbTMBYDG138 (looking north)
https://goo.gl/maps/s3VYLd33kizKZyMA7 (looking south)

That's an indication of a milepost equation. Which means the route was realigned at some point and this is the point where the new and old alignments meet. An equation is used so that they can maintain continuity with the existing mileposting without having to update the mileposts of the whole highway.

Aren't the numbers supposed to be reversed on the other side of the milepost, though? (Forgive me if that's not how it works; I've never driven in a state that has these.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 10, 2023, 05:28:31 PM
End of AR 210 at Greers Ferry Lake. I've seen several road ends signs but I don't think I've ever seen one that just straight up mentions open water. The route ends at a boat ramp so this makes sense but I've just never seen this before.

I took this earlier today.

(https://i.imgur.com/PHBoZZP.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 10, 2023, 06:48:54 PM
I do not have this photo yet, but the top banner here actually says "ALT TO" (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.310056,-76.8003608,3a,15y,241.74h,89.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1soLwPrBh6AnKOjcgpturgVw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DoLwPrBh6AnKOjcgpturgVw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D339.17206%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192). 

Obviously the sign is directing traffic to US 22 by turning right instead of left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 11, 2023, 12:01:06 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 10, 2023, 03:56:52 PM
Quote from: roadfro on May 10, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Amaury on May 09, 2023, 05:46:30 PM
Unique mile marker for milepost 14 on US Route 97 in Klickitat County, Washington, in the Satus Pass area.

Instead of just milepost 14, it's this:
https://goo.gl/maps/iyVjqPNbTMBYDG138 (looking north)
https://goo.gl/maps/s3VYLd33kizKZyMA7 (looking south)

That's an indication of a milepost equation. Which means the route was realigned at some point and this is the point where the new and old alignments meet. An equation is used so that they can maintain continuity with the existing mileposting without having to update the mileposts of the whole highway.

Aren't the numbers supposed to be reversed on the other side of the milepost, though? (Forgive me if that's not how it works; I've never driven in a state that has these.)

Assuming mileposts increase south to north, MP 13.68 would be immediately behind/back (south of) the equation point and MP 14.22 would be immediately ahead (north) of this point. The "ahead" and "back" notations are used with respect to the given position on the line of measurement in the direction of increasing measurement, and are not typically referencing the direction of travel along the roadway.

Most of the time, you only see milepost equations referenced in design plans or in a DOT milepost log/centerline chart. I don't think many jurisdictions prominently post their milepost equations in the field for motorists to see, probably to avoid potential confusion.

EDIT: Fixed errant swap of north & south and added clarification to first sentence relative to directions to better illustrate the point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 11, 2023, 12:07:32 PM
^^ Mileposts are supposed to increase south to north or west to east.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on May 11, 2023, 03:25:47 PM
Yup, and that's how it works in Washington. I do know that in Oregon, unless it's an interstate, it's the opposite due to their named highways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: sprjus4 on May 11, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 09, 2023, 03:01:59 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/pX5PzE4NHySE2R596
The use of Va over VA is odd considering all state abbreviations are to be upper case letters.

Though I'm sure you can finds hundreds of signs with Va over VA within the commonwealth, it's still like Mass being used for MA or Miss for MS.

I posted this to represent all Va usage in Virginia as VDOT using Va on a lot of guides is the norm that's odd.
They've been replacing a number of signs in the region over the last few years and now use "VA Beach"  is the default in most cases. I prefer the lowercase "Va"  since it looks better on the signs IMO, but I understand it's technically not proper. VDOT is finally onboard with "VA" .
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 11, 2023, 04:48:28 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/14548930937

The shield between the road name.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on May 12, 2023, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: Big John on May 11, 2023, 12:07:32 PM
^^ Mileposts are supposed to increase south to north or west to east.

Edited to fix, and to better illustrate my point using cardinal directions in the first place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on May 12, 2023, 05:19:07 PM
Does anyone know what this sign used to be? https://goo.gl/maps/pS5KW8UjWnc8kw396 It's on I-84 westbound in Oregon at milepost 65. I've gone back to the earliest capture Google Maps has and it's blank there, too. So, I'm wondering if anyone who is really familiar with this area knows what it was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 12, 2023, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 11, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 09, 2023, 03:01:59 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/pX5PzE4NHySE2R596
The use of Va over VA is odd considering all state abbreviations are to be upper case letters.

Though I'm sure you can finds hundreds of signs with Va over VA within the commonwealth, it's still like Mass being used for MA or Miss for MS.

I posted this to represent all Va usage in Virginia as VDOT using Va on a lot of guides is the norm that's odd.
They've been replacing a number of signs in the region over the last few years and now use "VA Beach"  is the default in most cases. I prefer the lowercase "Va"  since it looks better on the signs IMO, but I understand it's technically not proper. VDOT is finally onboard with "VA" .

It is proper, actually–it's a traditional abbreviation (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_traditional_abbreviation), but with the period removed because MUTCD disallows punctuation in city names. Same concept as Oklahoma signing its capital as "Okla City"; it's just that Virginia's traditional and postal abbreviations happen to be the same.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 12, 2023, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: Amaury on May 12, 2023, 05:19:07 PM
Does anyone know what this sign used to be? https://goo.gl/maps/pS5KW8UjWnc8kw396 It's on I-84 westbound in Oregon at milepost 65. I've gone back to the earliest capture Google Maps has and it's blank there, too. So, I'm wondering if anyone who is really familiar with this area knows what it was.
That's something that often happens in Montréal:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52819653297_3cef3ec9e8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2otuwHx)Blank BGS, A-40 EB (https://flic.kr/p/2otuwHx) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

I heard it's where VMS goes? Not sure about it, considering the shape of those signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 13, 2023, 12:21:51 AM
Quote from: Amaury on May 12, 2023, 05:19:07 PM
Does anyone know what this sign used to be? https://goo.gl/maps/pS5KW8UjWnc8kw396 It's on I-84 westbound in Oregon at milepost 65. I've gone back to the earliest capture Google Maps has and it's blank there, too. So, I'm wondering if anyone who is really familiar with this area knows what it was.

If you look at it on edge, it has two layers, the inner one appearing to be yellow. So my guess is it's a sign that unfolds to reveal a warning of some kind.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 13, 2023, 12:50:15 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 12, 2023, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 11, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 09, 2023, 03:01:59 AMhttps://goo.gl/maps/pX5PzE4NHySE2R596

The use of Va over VA is odd considering all state abbreviations are to be upper case letters.

Though I'm sure you can finds hundreds of signs with Va over VA within the commonwealth, it's still like Mass being used for MA or Miss for MS.

I posted this to represent all Va usage in Virginia as VDOT using Va on a lot of guides is the norm that's odd.

They've been replacing a number of signs in the region over the last few years and now use "VA Beach"  is the default in most cases. I prefer the lowercase "Va"  since it looks better on the signs IMO, but I understand it's technically not proper. VDOT is finally onboard with "VA" .

It is proper, actually–it's a traditional abbreviation (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_traditional_abbreviation), but with the period removed because MUTCD disallows punctuation in city names. Same concept as Oklahoma signing its capital as "Okla City"; it's just that Virginia's traditional and postal abbreviations happen to be the same.

People keep saying the MUTCD now requires, or may in the future require, the use of USPS two-letter abbreviations for states on signs.  The only language I have found in the 2009 edition regarding state abbreviations deals with the state-name part of state route designations and leaves it to agency discretion, with the proviso that it must be used consistently.  Neither the NPRM nor the proposed text and figures for the upcoming 11th edition indicate this is to be changed.

Even if the MUTCD required USPS TLAs, I think it would be inappropriate to interpret it as mandating legends like "VA Beach" or "OK City" since these are city names that happen to incorporate the names of their respective states.  Va. Beach is an independent city in Virginia, not a beach in VA.



Quote from: Amaury on May 12, 2023, 05:19:07 PMDoes anyone know what this sign used to be? https://goo.gl/maps/pS5KW8UjWnc8kw396 It's on I-84 westbound in Oregon at milepost 65. I've gone back to the earliest capture Google Maps has and it's blank there, too. So, I'm wondering if anyone who is really familiar with this area knows what it was.

It's still in service--it's a folding sign.  If you advance past it in StreetView, you can see (as Scott5114 notes) sheeting peeking out along one edge.  As all of the available imagery has acquisition dates outside the winter months and the next exit is for Mount Hood, I suspect it warns of snow-related closures along SR 35, which runs through areas that have snow on the ground as late as May (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3119133,-121.6435195,3a,75y,341.04h,91.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szhfAcXUdl6NJHGrXDP9X1w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DzhfAcXUdl6NJHGrXDP9X1w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D336.3219%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656).  However, I haven't been able to find confirmation in signing plans.

In the past, I have opened folding signs just to see what is on the other side, but--legalities aside--I would strongly discourage that in this location since there is no safe place to stop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 14, 2023, 08:34:51 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on May 13, 2023, 12:50:15 AM
Quote from: Amaury on May 12, 2023, 05:19:07 PMDoes anyone know what this sign used to be? https://goo.gl/maps/pS5KW8UjWnc8kw396 It's on I-84 westbound in Oregon at milepost 65. I've gone back to the earliest capture Google Maps has and it's blank there, too. So, I'm wondering if anyone who is really familiar with this area knows what it was.

It's still in service--it's a folding sign.  If you advance past it in StreetView, you can see (as Scott5114 notes) sheeting peeking out along one edge.  As all of the available imagery has acquisition dates outside the winter months and the next exit is for Mount Hood, I suspect it warns of snow-related closures along SR 35, which runs through areas that have snow on the ground as late as May (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.3119133,-121.6435195,3a,75y,341.04h,91.46t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szhfAcXUdl6NJHGrXDP9X1w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DzhfAcXUdl6NJHGrXDP9X1w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D336.3219%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656).  However, I haven't been able to find confirmation in signing plans.

While the quality leaves a lot to be desired, it does appear to be folded up in this December 2007 imagery from the eastbound carriageway: https://goo.gl/maps/7AKsgJMdXkD675R19.

Though it is still very possibly a snow-closure sign, however, as December is hit-and-miss with regard to snow closures in the PNW.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on May 14, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/CR_519_nb_at_NJ_Route_12%2C_May_2023.jpg/640px-CR_519_nb_at_NJ_Route_12%2C_May_2023.jpg)

This newer sign seems to be "missing its eyebrows," or in this case the arrows below the EAST and WEST like found on the standard directional signs in NJ (such as the one in the far background for CR 519).

Bad news, though, for the one singular mention in real life of NJ 165- the non-standard brown signal blade (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4473.0) was replaced with a boring NJDOT modern standard blade:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/NJ_Route_165_and_Swan_Street_traffic_signal%2C_May_2023.jpg/1024px-NJ_Route_165_and_Swan_Street_traffic_signal%2C_May_2023.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 15, 2023, 04:45:28 AM

How NJ 18 gets an independent shield while US 9 is included on the guide.
https://goo.gl/maps/cFHtcxeRd7v69VpM6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 15, 2023, 10:33:02 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51912173731
The way SCDOT positions Road under the road name lining up the left side rather than center it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on May 16, 2023, 01:15:23 AM
Never change, Oklahoma DOT.

(https://i.imgur.com/G0hgmGK.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/MewO6qA.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 16, 2023, 03:19:43 AM
Positive contrast signs with inset border .... 🤮

Of course, when it's required (negative contrast), they don't inset the border. But I don't like inset borders anyway, so I'm actually fine with that mistake.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 16, 2023, 03:08:07 PM
Who posts black on white guide signs, anyway? What is this, 1957?

(Also, literally the only agency that ever made Series F look good is the City of San Francisco on their street blades.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 17, 2023, 11:47:40 AM
The exit tab on this temporary sign is yellow.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218696841572687&set=a.10218696856253054)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on May 17, 2023, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 16, 2023, 03:08:07 PM
Who posts black on white guide signs, anyway? What is this, 1957?

(Also, literally the only agency that ever made Series F look good is the City of San Francisco on their street blades.)

There are a handful of black-on-white guide signs still in existence in KYTC's District 6 in the northern part of the state. They date back to the 1970s when the "honeycomb" or "beehive" sheeting was in place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on May 18, 2023, 12:02:15 PM
The "Gray Horse Creek" and "Bug Creek" signs have a few problems. Series F is not great for small signs. The layouts have more line spacing between the lines than negative space above and below the lines. That's just wrong from a basic design standpoint. It's one reason why the layouts look cramped. The Gray Horse Creek sign just needs a longer (and taller) sign panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on May 20, 2023, 06:46:41 PM
"No trucks as thru traffic," with a rear view of a truck instead of the R5-2 showing the side view.

(https://i.imgur.com/43njAkz.jpg)

Might have to read this one twice and then think about it for a moment.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qfql4cD.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on May 21, 2023, 09:39:49 PM
Now that is a really horrible looking Clearview sign. The "As Thru Traffic" lettering looks like Clearview 3W (not 3B) artificially stretched. Obviously they couldn't bother selecting the 6B weight in the font menu. The bottom sign panel lettering looks like Clearview 1W, and that lettering might be squeezed just a little bit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 22, 2023, 04:20:08 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Bc1P2GdFhn7L6emo7
This shield is odd, but at least uses one shield for two directions.

https://goo.gl/maps/gJBzHSqtQ75MihE46
This curve sign is odd with no arrowhead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 22, 2023, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2023, 04:20:08 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Bc1P2GdFhn7L6emo7
This shield is odd, but at least uses one shield for two directions.

I don't think signals count as signs, but if we are talking about anything with retroreflectivity: New Hope's white traffic signal borders are visible in the background. Pretty sure New Hope and Bristol (both in PA) are the only places where you can find white signal borders in the US.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on May 23, 2023, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2023, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2023, 04:20:08 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Bc1P2GdFhn7L6emo7
This shield is odd, but at least uses one shield for two directions.

I don't think signals count as signs, but if we are talking about anything with retroreflectivity: New Hope's white traffic signal borders are visible in the background. Pretty sure New Hope and Bristol (both in PA) are the only places where you can find white signal borders in the US.

Culpeper, VA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/49xYkAY4kg5GPMYU7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on May 23, 2023, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: plain on May 23, 2023, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2023, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2023, 04:20:08 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Bc1P2GdFhn7L6emo7
This shield is odd, but at least uses one shield for two directions.

I don't think signals count as signs, but if we are talking about anything with retroreflectivity: New Hope's white traffic signal borders are visible in the background. Pretty sure New Hope and Bristol (both in PA) are the only places where you can find white signal borders in the US.

Culpeper, VA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/49xYkAY4kg5GPMYU7

Those wide-radius curves on the backplates are fairly unique, too. Seems like something you'd see outside North America.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 24, 2023, 01:09:51 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 23, 2023, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: plain on May 23, 2023, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2023, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2023, 04:20:08 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Bc1P2GdFhn7L6emo7
This shield is odd, but at least uses one shield for two directions.

I don't think signals count as signs, but if we are talking about anything with retroreflectivity: New Hope's white traffic signal borders are visible in the background. Pretty sure New Hope and Bristol (both in PA) are the only places where you can find white signal borders in the US.

Culpeper, VA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/49xYkAY4kg5GPMYU7

Those wide-radius curves on the backplates are fairly unique, too. Seems like something you'd see outside North America.

Something straight out of the Netherlands!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on May 24, 2023, 07:01:36 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 24, 2023, 01:09:51 AM
Quote from: formulanone on May 23, 2023, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: plain on May 23, 2023, 11:44:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2023, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 22, 2023, 04:20:08 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/Bc1P2GdFhn7L6emo7
This shield is odd, but at least uses one shield for two directions.

I don't think signals count as signs, but if we are talking about anything with retroreflectivity: New Hope's white traffic signal borders are visible in the background. Pretty sure New Hope and Bristol (both in PA) are the only places where you can find white signal borders in the US.

Culpeper, VA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/49xYkAY4kg5GPMYU7

Those wide-radius curves on the backplates are fairly unique, too. Seems like something you'd see outside North America.

Something straight out of the Netherlands!
I swear I've seen those in a few other places in the U.S., too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on May 24, 2023, 08:23:00 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 19, 2023, 01:21:14 PM
A few months ago, I said in the thread that a billboard in Moab, UT on US 191 NORTH looked like it recycled an old freeway sign...  I was excited to see it in the distance coming from the south on my way home today..

Well, with all the recent fierce winds, the fabric for the actual billboard ad gave way, and the BGS is now on display as of today.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/198139625@N03/albums/72177720307625887/

The bad news is that someone already defaced it, if you look closely at the close up shot -- although they are technically correct S this is US 191 NORTH...

There's actually not that many southbound I-15 pull-throughs like that. If I had to guess where that was originally located, I'd say it was this sign, approaching the south I-215 interchange (https://goo.gl/maps/kiPbxhr3Di7yVGGh8). The sign and the gantry it's on were removed in 2019 when a lane was added to most of southbound I-15 in Salt Lake County.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 24, 2023, 01:56:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/bGZKPJ5aFcyhry5KA
The all caps abbreviation for the state of Illinois is odd on the signal street sign as this is the old abbreviation that used mixed case at the time. The all upper is to be used only for the latest two letter abbreviations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on May 25, 2023, 02:45:02 PM
This traffic circle ahead sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9675711,-79.1046905,3a,37.1y,134.38h,87.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0SLBz7fiDeNFWcVGMXyKyA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) (W2-6) on Eubanks Road near Chapel Hill, North Carolina is badly skewed to the right.  Once you get there, the real-life traffic circle (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9676138,-79.1018487,3a,75y,122.12h,91.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siHp0t0IaUuGVFWhfxxmYzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) is also skewed to the right.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 25, 2023, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on May 25, 2023, 02:45:02 PM
This traffic circle ahead sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9675711,-79.1046905,3a,37.1y,134.38h,87.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0SLBz7fiDeNFWcVGMXyKyA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) (W2-6) on Eubanks Road near Chapel Hill, North Carolina is badly skewed to the right.  Once you get there, the real-life traffic circle (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9676138,-79.1018487,3a,75y,122.12h,91.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siHp0t0IaUuGVFWhfxxmYzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) is also skewed to the right.

I find the terminology odd too, it's quite clearly a roundabout.

I understand they are colloquially referred to as traffic circles in many parts of the country, but engineers have often made a point of separating roundabouts and traffic circles due to differences in age and design standards. To then ignore all that and sign a roundabout as a traffic circle anyway...it's a little baffling to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 26, 2023, 05:25:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on May 24, 2023, 01:56:45 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/bGZKPJ5aFcyhry5KA
The all caps abbreviation for the state of Illinois is odd on the signal street sign as this is the old abbreviation that used mixed case at the time. The all upper is to be used only for the latest two letter abbreviations.

To use mixed case and avoid easily reading as "|||" would require a nonstandard serifed character "I", which is seen out there (from Steve's NY 5S page https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/ny_5s/):
(https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ny/ny_5s/w51_1.jpg)
All the signs for the exit eastbound and westbound have the serifed I.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on May 26, 2023, 05:32:39 PM
^^Wisconsin adds serifs for county highways I/II
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: TBKS1 on May 26, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
Pretty interesting road construction sign on Rodney Parham road in Little Rock

(https://i.imgur.com/H4Cfqmk.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 27, 2023, 08:03:47 PM
VA 288 is the only road where I have seen mile-markers like "MILE 01".

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218792295358972&set=a.10218792402641654

Mileage Mike just covered the most interesting Work Zone Ground Sign ever on I-69C/US 281 near I-2 at 15:38.

 

Adding a 1/3 mileage sign on VA 20 NB to I-64 WB that I am surprised survived a sign replacement cycle.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218792930734856&set=a.10218793136620003

Adding odd text PA 56 WB/PA 403 NB Text Signs at the west end of their concurrency in Johnstown:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218803508599296&set=a.10218803851287863
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 28, 2023, 03:46:53 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/15826149515
The placement of the two lane control arrows is odd here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 28, 2023, 04:21:05 PM
Nice looking blue signs being used for destinations in Greensburg, PA:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218803521639622&set=a.10218803851287863

An old 22-30 text sign on PA 380 WB at PA 8 SN in Pittsburgh:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218803557720524&set=a.10218803851287863
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on May 28, 2023, 08:15:54 PM
Quote from: TBKS1 on May 26, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
Pretty interesting road construction sign on Rodney Parham road in Little Rock

(https://i.imgur.com/H4Cfqmk.png)
Unless there's an actual SPEED LIMIT 35 sign somewhere in the road work zone, that sign is unenforceable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: andrepoiy on May 28, 2023, 09:02:48 PM
I discovered this distance sign which was made out of street sign blades in Kingston ON. Too cheap to manufacture a real sign it seems.

(https://i.imgur.com/ab5Wh7B.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on May 28, 2023, 10:25:54 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 27, 2023, 08:03:47 PM
VA 288 is the only road where I have seen mile-markers like "MILE 01".

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218792295358972&set=a.10218792402641654

Mileage Mike just covered the most interesting Work Zone Ground Sign ever on I-69C/US 281 near I-2 at 15:38.

 

Adding a 1/3 mileage sign on VA 20 NB to I-64 WB that I am surprised survived a sign replacement cycle.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218792930734856&set=a.10218793136620003

Adding odd text PA 56 WB/PA 403 NB Text Signs at the west end of their concurrency in Johnstown:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218803508599296&set=a.10218803851287863
https://goo.gl/maps/kbGRyUnswVdh26Nx5
I-86 in NY does the same for miles 0-9.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on May 29, 2023, 11:39:36 AM
On US 19 NB near I-80:  I had never seen this shield used before when a divided highway begins.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218803647162760&set=a.10218803851287863)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on May 29, 2023, 03:45:34 PM
That's a lane ends sign mounted upside down. Not MUTCD compliant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 29, 2023, 07:10:25 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51697649896
Think this is an interesting way to inform motorists that two US routes part ways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on May 30, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Interesting way to tell drivers the merge ahead is a heavy traffic merge. Most signs are the traditional MUTCD signs before it, but this includes a large warning, which I find practical as all heavy merges should sign this way IMO.
https://goo.gl/maps/gJfMF7kgM3SdzV868
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on May 30, 2023, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on May 29, 2023, 03:45:34 PM
That's a lane ends sign mounted upside down. Not MUTCD compliant.

Indiana Toll Road scoffs at an upside-down lane-ends sign only tapering at one side.   https://goo.gl/maps/v2PqR595niL4dDDu8
(https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/31232631_10110013175248468_2627922297503088640_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=5xhZrsbCENMAX_Qm9t8&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AfCZPwDorkpRMfyzOmMZgUpUBYb713yL_HsE4U32mYIQvA&oe=649DB449)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on May 30, 2023, 10:08:41 PM
Driving on I-5 northbound earlier, and I saw this sign that says to follow I-705 north in text. No shield.

https://goo.gl/maps/Jtsz6gua5cqWwZ826
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on May 31, 2023, 06:41:33 AM
Quote from: Amaury on May 30, 2023, 10:08:41 PM
Driving on I-5 northbound earlier, and I saw this sign that says to follow I-705 north in text. No shield.

https://goo.gl/maps/Jtsz6gua5cqWwZ826

Ha, I remember seeing that almost everyday when I lived in Tacoma for a few years. Even more unusual is that it just says "705", not even an "I".

Slightly better GSV link, from the actual C/D roadway: https://goo.gl/maps/LjmzSi1MNTpxD6Jq7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on June 02, 2023, 02:19:21 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 10, 2023, 06:48:54 PM
I do not have this photo yet, but the top banner here actually says "ALT TO" (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.310056,-76.8003608,3a,15y,241.74h,89.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1soLwPrBh6AnKOjcgpturgVw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DoLwPrBh6AnKOjcgpturgVw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D339.17206%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192). 

Obviously the sign is directing traffic to US 22 by turning right instead of left.

I went and took the picture of this sign today.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218839185571198&set=a.10218247474178783)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 02, 2023, 06:33:37 PM
I'm sorry, but what the heck is an "oil iggie"? And if it's misspelled, what the heck is it talking about?

https://goo.gl/maps/W8cnMVqxLjErbQP68
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 02, 2023, 07:05:21 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 02, 2023, 06:33:37 PMI'm sorry, but what the heck is an "oil iggie"? And if it's misspelled, what the heck is it talking about?

https://goo.gl/maps/W8cnMVqxLjErbQP68

I'm pretty sure the letter P is missing.  "Oil piggie" is plausible slang for a waste oil collection receptacle; there is at least one (https://www.newpig.com/pig-waste-fluid-collection-system/p/DRM375) that is marketed using "pig" as part of a registered mark.

When I last used such a tank to dispose of old motor oil, which was more than 25 years ago, it was basically a large cigar-shaped metal tank with an opening in the middle of the top that had a heavy screw cap.  (The form factor was not dissimilar to that of a railroad tank car.)  I imagine the newer ones offer more sophisticated features for spill management.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 02, 2023, 09:43:02 PM
If signs like this only exist in Gulf Hammock, Florida, I'll be so disappointed.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Railroad_Exhibit_Sign%3B_NB_US_19-98_Gulf_Hammock%2C_FL.jpg/640px-Railroad_Exhibit_Sign%3B_NB_US_19-98_Gulf_Hammock%2C_FL.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on June 03, 2023, 06:42:17 AM
^I do not remember seeing this sign when I was in the area back in March, but the exhibit itself just popped up so I was not looking for a sign at that point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 03, 2023, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on June 03, 2023, 06:42:17 AM
^I do not remember seeing this sign when I was in the area back in March, but the exhibit itself just popped up so I was not looking for a sign at that point.
They've had these signs there for years. I also have one from 2011, but I'll have to show it off later, because I have a different pic from there on my cursor.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Patterson-McInnis_Sawmill_Locomotive_3-03.jpg/640px-Patterson-McInnis_Sawmill_Locomotive_3-03.jpg)
UPDATE: Here it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 04, 2023, 01:37:00 PM
"Get Into Correct Lane" approaching a multi-lane roundabout in Sterling Heights, MI:

(https://i.imgur.com/lys5Jsc.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 04, 2023, 09:33:28 PM
Ahh yes, the infamous 18 1/2 Mile - Van Dyke Ave - M53 roundabout. First three lane roundabout I ever knew of.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on June 04, 2023, 09:43:30 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 04, 2023, 09:33:28 PM
Ahh yes, the infamous 18 1/2 Mile - Van Dyke Ave - M53 roundabout. First three lane roundabout I ever knew of.

This seems to be a sign that I would expect on NC 53.   :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on June 05, 2023, 06:18:46 PM
While exploring the area around the latest "Redesign this!" proposal (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.msg2846725#msg2846725), I bumped into this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.3518031,-119.0028107,3a,15y,4.77h,91.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCtt8IOmdlRGSXiVw6WCGBw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), which very clearly uses SNV Becker (an originally Swiss typeface now used in Belgium and the Balkans).

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751129591258808474/1115335325527593001/image.png)
Google Street View screenshot
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 05, 2023, 10:27:24 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/Dv8JFDxX2H9fuCKT8
The supplemental guide over the ramp is odd as well as the billboard over the through lanes appearing as a guide sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 06, 2023, 04:04:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YXvFvpwmKRoorMAs7
A traditional interstate shield for a BL interstate in Victorville, CA.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on June 06, 2023, 06:25:48 PM
Hard to see, but US 119 is in text on the right-turn lane assignment signs:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217818730940470&set=a.10217819107389881
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 06, 2023, 09:43:07 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 06, 2023, 04:04:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YXvFvpwmKRoorMAs7
A traditional interstate shield for a BL interstate in Victorville, CA.

Blame the city of Victorville for that. I don't think that's Caltrans-erected.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 08, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
This sign that was put up in the last year is an ugly mess. Weird arrows, no shield, and the random incursion of Freeport as a control city that looks awfully misplaced are just some of the highlights. The worst part is that this sign is an "improvement" over the sign that was there before (which had the exact same ugly layout!). There was a recent repaving of SH 288 Business in town, and lots of signs were replaced with subpar variants like this one. I might get more pictures.

(https://imgur.com/fzUdbdb.jpg)
S Velasco St SB, Angleton, TX, 6/8/23

Location with the old sign:
https://goo.gl/maps/aCS8zFTFs1b31DYRA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 08, 2023, 07:14:18 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 08, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
This sign that was put up in the last year is an ugly mess. Weird arrows, no shield, and the random incursion of Freeport as a control city that looks awfully misplaced are just some of the highlights. The worst part is that this sign is an "improvement" over the sign that was there before (which had the exact same ugly layout!). There was a recent repaving of SH 288 Business in town, and lots of signs were replaced with subpar variants like this one. I might get more pictures.

(sign)

Business BS288B?! How did they mess it up so bad not only once, but twice?!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 08, 2023, 08:40:52 PM
So 2888 is BS?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 08, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Texas marks their business routes with a letter so that they're not identical, e.g. Business US 59H. (I don't know if that's actually one of them.) The B at the end might be indicating that it's the second Business 288 rather than being B for Business.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 08, 2023, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Texas marks their business routes with a letter so that they're not identical, e.g. Business US 59H. (I don't know if that's actually one of them.) The B at the end might be indicating that it's the second Business 288 rather than being B for Business.
The first part is correct. Texas affixes letters to their US and state business routes for identification purposes. I believe all business routes are in the same pool of letters, so each route gets a random letter. It just so happens that SH 288 Business was assigned the letter "B" as its "suffix", which often leads to clunky signage in my experience. Examples of other routes with suffixes:

SH 35 Business C:
https://goo.gl/maps/CCk2BT5MSwAhrtVr7

US 287 Business V:
https://goo.gl/maps/3WYggo7X9GGRiuzPA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on June 10, 2023, 04:51:34 PM
Interesting "Y" here for Chelan County at the Chelan and Okanogan County borders. It's a bit bigger than the rest of the letters. Either that or the alignment is just off a little bit. This on US 97 heading south.

https://goo.gl/maps/AHgEoBNiExeH9mhv8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 10, 2023, 06:09:11 PM
Quote from: Amaury on June 10, 2023, 04:51:34 PM
Interesting "Y" here for Chelan County at the Chelan and Okanogan County borders. It's a bit bigger than the rest of the letters. Either that or the alignment is just off a little bit. This on US 97 heading south.

https://goo.gl/maps/N6TkudD7Pe2zWYo58

The y here appears to be the correct size, but the sign lacks the space padding for it to be put on the same baseline as the rest of the letters without the descender touching the border.

Quote from: CoreySamson on June 08, 2023, 09:10:36 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 08, 2023, 08:54:35 PMTexas marks their business routes with a letter so that they're not identical, e.g. Business US 59H. (I don't know if that's actually one of them.) The B at the end might be indicating that it's the second Business 288 rather than being B for Business.

The first part is correct. Texas affixes letters to their US and state business routes for identification purposes. I believe all business routes are in the same pool of letters, so each route gets a random letter. It just so happens that SH 288 Business was assigned the letter "B" as its "suffix", which often leads to clunky signage in my experience. Examples of other routes with suffixes:

SH 35 Business C:
https://goo.gl/maps/CCk2BT5MSwAhrtVr7

US 287 Business V:
https://goo.gl/maps/3WYggo7X9GGRiuzPA

(I'm following up partly on the related discussion of TxDOT's treatment of business routes in the Redesign This thread.)

TxDOT has separate identifiers for business routes for Interstate, US, and state highways.  These are BI, BU, and BS respectively (yes, really, BS).  The suffix letter is also used when the route is referenced on a sign in text.  So where route nomenclature is concerned, the problem with this sign is the missing space between the identifier and the number--it should be "BS 288B" and not "BS288B" if text is used.

Though I suspect it is long gone (I spotted it around 2003), I recall a distance sign way out in west Texas with "BI 20G 2" (I-20 business route G, two miles) as the top line.

Although the suffix letter is omitted on guide-sign shields, Standard Highway Sign Designs for Texas (SHSD) still calls for it to be used on independent-mount shields, even though these now have the word "Business" moved out to a separate tab.  I will believe TxDOT is phasing out the suffixes altogether when SHSD is updated to that effect.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on June 11, 2023, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 08, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
There was a recent repaving of SH 288 Business in town, and lots of signs were replaced with subpar variants like this one. I might get more pictures.
I happened to be in the area again earlier today, so I got some pictures of some of the interesting signage.

First off, I don't think I've ever seen TADD on a warning sign:
(https://imgur.com/NpnkPsA.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/5QAGcLor8ZuSD47s7

Kinda small "STOP FOR PEDESTRIANS" sign:
(https://imgur.com/Ljm66ql.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/n2ptG5zQv8QYGx8S8

In the same vein, a kinda small speed limit sign (these are plastered around the area like cancer):
(https://imgur.com/y05KMHK.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/ZSazVkLHj9d2MFs86

The arrow on this shield assembly is messed up. It should be a 45 degree upwards arrow, as 288 Business follows the exit ramp, not Dwyer St:
(https://imgur.com/KX7lI1L.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/qU3qCYtpm82SavDZ8

Probably the worst sign of the bunch, a street blade mounted on a shield assembly. The shield in the last photo should be mounted here in its place:
(https://imgur.com/cZSlfId.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/tGcHZaUnnhehcjk47

Finally, another squished speed limit sign and a shield assembly (compare with the GSV link):
(https://imgur.com/0xHCd2l.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/oGh6uDoSVg8tHn1NA

I also wanted to get a picture of an erroneous "Loop 247" street blade, but it was removed in the past 2 days or so.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on June 11, 2023, 07:40:19 PM
^^ The small stop for pedestrians sign is supposed be ground mounted in the road.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 12, 2023, 01:15:39 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 06, 2023, 04:04:41 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YXvFvpwmKRoorMAs7
A traditional interstate shield for a BL interstate in Victorville, CA.
Now I like the green and white Interstate Business Route shields even more.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on June 12, 2023, 04:46:24 AM
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 11, 2023, 07:33:49 PM
In the same vein, a kinda small speed limit sign (these are plastered around the area like cancer):
(https://imgur.com/y05KMHK.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/ZSazVkLHj9d2MFs86

Series D stretched to E width. Blech!

Quote from: CoreySamson on June 11, 2023, 07:33:49 PM
The arrow on this shield assembly is messed up. It should be a 45 degree upwards arrow, as 288 Business follows the exit ramp, not Dwyer St:
(https://imgur.com/KX7lI1L.jpg)
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/qU3qCYtpm82SavDZ8

The shield is messed up too. In order for rounded corners of rectangles nested inside each other to "match", the radius of rounding of the inner rectangle must be that of the outer rectangle minus the distance between the two of them. Of course, if the distance between the two rectangles is greater than the radius of rounding of the outer rectangle, the inner rectangle cannot be rounded at all. This is why the inner white square on a proper Texas shield has sharp corners.

All that to say that this shield sucks.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on June 12, 2023, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: Amaury on June 10, 2023, 04:51:34 PM
Interesting "Y" here for Chelan County at the Chelan and Okanogan County borders. It's a bit bigger than the rest of the letters. Either that or the alignment is just off a little bit. This on US 97 heading south.

https://goo.gl/maps/N6TkudD7Pe2zWYo58

This sign in Ohio on US 30 (https://goo.gl/maps/nMv6WNURFoYhYzdK6) suffers from the same problem--but there seems to have been room for the descender if they wanted to line the letters up correctly.  (The sad part is that the previous button copy sign was laid out perfectly--change the date to 2016 to see it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 12, 2023, 10:56:57 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on June 12, 2023, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: Amaury on June 10, 2023, 04:51:34 PM
Interesting "Y" here for Chelan County at the Chelan and Okanogan County borders. It's a bit bigger than the rest of the letters. Either that or the alignment is just off a little bit. This on US 97 heading south.

https://goo.gl/maps/N6TkudD7Pe2zWYo58

This sign in Ohio on US 30 (https://goo.gl/maps/nMv6WNURFoYhYzdK6) suffers from the same problem--but there seems to have been room for the descender if they wanted to line the letters up correctly.  (The sad part is that the previous button copy sign was laid out perfectly--change the date to 2016 to see it.
I feel like this discussion has went on far too long without Craig County.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/US_69_Craig_Co.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on June 12, 2023, 11:02:46 PM
Found this sign in Mountlake Terrace, WA the other day:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048063351789473892/1117526339403124776/PXL_20230611_185003283.jpg)

It's at a split on a residential one-way road, with the branch to the right serving a small cul-de-sac. (Street View link (https://goo.gl/maps/n6f62L3m4xy5SfZ49))

There's quite a few signs in the area with arrows and the text "ARTERIAL ROUTE/ROAD" to direct drivers away from residential dead-ends, but this it the first I've seen that has integrated the text into the arrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 15, 2023, 07:45:31 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/uuQwzXGXhWiGk7pP6
This exit list sign is odd not to feature mileages to each. Instead it lists the exit numbers with no number for I-287 SB due to it being the unnumbered terminus.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 16, 2023, 09:56:52 PM
Blue exit gore sign on I-81: https://goo.gl/maps/j1Uq3pXPb4D1dYDs9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 16, 2023, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 16, 2023, 09:56:52 PM
Blue exit gore sign on I-81: https://goo.gl/maps/j1Uq3pXPb4D1dYDs9
Reminds me of the BBSes dating from when A-10 was tolled (https://goo.gl/maps/zWVrSqFVJx9qezq69).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 17, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
Supe-size FL 50A shield dwarfing a US 98 shield along northbound US 41 entering downtown Brooksville along Broad Street.  This shield seems to have appeared at some point during 2021-2022:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52982114703_6e0e90ef02_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oHRbQg)50AFLc (https://flic.kr/p/2oHRbQg) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.  I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 17, 2023, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.  I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6
Isn't there one at I-74/I-80 in the Quad Cities?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on June 18, 2023, 01:16:12 PM
There's this, too, at the I-15/I-215 north junction near San Bernardino. It doesn't have the lane markings, though, so I guess it comes down to how you define "diagrammatic."

https://goo.gl/maps/6Dxmttyqu56NFiLG6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 18, 2023, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 17, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
Supe-size FL 50A shield dwarfing a US 98 shield along northbound US 41 entering downtown Brooksville along Broad Street.  This shield seems to have appeared at some point during 2021-2022:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52982114703_6e0e90ef02_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oHRbQg)50AFLc (https://flic.kr/p/2oHRbQg) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
That's another one I really wish I had taken a picture of. For another Florida sign, I want to see some evidence that it exists elsewhere in the world besides Lakeland, Florida.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Train_By-Pass_Sign%3B_NE_Corner_Mass_and_Main.jpg/640px-Train_By-Pass_Sign%3B_NE_Corner_Mass_and_Main.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on June 18, 2023, 05:52:59 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on June 18, 2023, 01:16:12 PM
There's this, too, at the I-15/I-215 north junction near San Bernardino. It doesn't have the lane markings, though, so I guess it comes down to how you define "diagrammatic."

https://goo.gl/maps/6Dxmttyqu56NFiLG6

Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.  I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6

Not a diagrammatic but there's this sign that I'm sure is temporary (VDOT expanded the ramp from one to two lanes). Note that the option lane arrow is a patch over.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/zX2CBQpBbAwTRcjz7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 18, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: plain on June 18, 2023, 05:52:59 PM
Not a diagrammatic but there's this sign that I'm sure is temporary (VDOT expanded the ramp from one to two lanes). Note that the option lane arrow is a patch over.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/zX2CBQpBbAwTRcjz7
Regarding the previous version of this;
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5783039,-77.4667146,3a,15y,133.06h,94.23t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIAr2jom93QlOMSnifapK-A!2e0!5s20191001T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Was there a plan for an extra sign next to the BGS, even if it's just a ramp speed limit sign?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 18, 2023, 06:47:57 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.  I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6

That was my thought.  56 inches wide for a three digit State Road shield isn't anything I've ever seen. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 19, 2023, 06:56:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/rbSJJM2UFkKdStVR7
An old PANYNJ guide in Edison, NJ still left behind.

This was normal up to the late eighties for Port Authority Crossings to be signed throughout the NYC Metro Area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 19, 2023, 07:34:12 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/YyH7n8BZB9Q9P3SVA
New York's version of a Freeway Entrance guide, being in NY freeways are called expressways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on June 19, 2023, 08:23:15 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on June 19, 2023, 06:56:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/rbSJJM2UFkKdStVR7
An old PANYNJ guide in Edison, NJ still left behind.

This was normal up to the late eighties for Port Authority Crossings to be signed throughout the NYC Metro Area.

Some back before the intersection got upgraded
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8106986,-74.1369577,3a,72.7y,88.51h,82.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_4NH_LgN9DXDO9A9C_4Y9Q!2e0!5s20130901T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu

Still up in Passaic
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.842185,-74.1320562,3a,30.1y,247.15h,96.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPCTD-FUTi_tIKMz8h0aa6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Another in Passaic
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8565401,-74.129012,3a,36y,233.25h,92.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSflglwDIym2NpqRtVzNv6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 19, 2023, 08:33:48 AM
Fair warning.

(https://i.imgur.com/f7xIYrQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 19, 2023, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6

Here's a ground-mounted diagrammatic sign in my area:  https://goo.gl/maps/KX4FtzRVoV529MVy8

Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

See here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3521.msg2530171;topicseen#msg2530171
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kurumi on June 19, 2023, 11:59:05 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 19, 2023, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6
Here's a ground-mounted diagrammatic sign in my area:  https://goo.gl/maps/KX4FtzRVoV529MVy8

Here's one with no text, for CT 2/17/94: https://goo.gl/maps/s7aEo2pvvqwAPEYp9
It dates back to the 1970s, before CT 2 had any overhead signs in Glastonbury. Signage for the left exit for CT 17, in an expressway with a narrow median, was not that good.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 19, 2023, 05:58:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
A ground-mounted diagrammatic sign seems fairly unusual to me.  I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

https://goo.gl/maps/xQQc7iXdb1JBye1S6

I immediately thought of that location when you mentioned it.  I have a photo of that and for some reason, that particular sign is always memorable to me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on June 19, 2023, 07:44:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 19, 2023, 10:40:51 AM
Quote from: vdeane on June 17, 2023, 08:01:54 PM
I don't suppose anyone has ever encountered a ground-mounted APL?

See here:  https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3521.msg2530171;topicseen#msg2530171

Good memory, I even forgot about that sign. Did you find it through search?

Here is the sign in question from Google Street View: https://goo.gl/maps/tLHFCL4eqtHhhnKx6 (BC-1 westbound just after the Dollarton Hwy interchange in North Vancouver).

It has since been replaced with a newer sign, though the layout has been retained. There are new signs in the background too (with some funky designs), the result of upgrades to the interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on June 19, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 18, 2023, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: plain on June 18, 2023, 05:52:59 PM
Not a diagrammatic but there's this sign that I'm sure is temporary (VDOT expanded the ramp from one to two lanes). Note that the option lane arrow is a patch over.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/zX2CBQpBbAwTRcjz7
Regarding the previous version of this;
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5783039,-77.4667146,3a,15y,133.06h,94.23t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIAr2jom93QlOMSnifapK-A!2e0!5s20191001T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Was there a plan for an extra sign next to the BGS, even if it's just a ramp speed limit sign?

I don't think so, I'm not sure why they had that extra bracket up there like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on June 19, 2023, 09:05:47 PM
I don't know if it's unique, but it's certainly interesting. Normally, there'd be a separate reassurance shield in front of it, but this sign is a two-for-one. It has a reassurance shield and control cities on one sign. It's on US 97 southbound right after it splits from the US 2/US 97 concurrency in Chelan County.

https://goo.gl/maps/A2coBBTd8jR9nEEN7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on June 19, 2023, 07:44:45 PM
Good memory, I even forgot about that sign. Did you find it through search?

I actually found it by way of Google.  But then, once I went to the thread, I did indeed remember the conversation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on June 21, 2023, 10:15:56 AM
Quote from: Amaury on June 19, 2023, 09:05:47 PM
I don't know if it's unique, but it's certainly interesting. Normally, there'd be a separate reassurance shield in front of it, but this sign is a two-for-one. It has a reassurance shield and control cities on one sign. It's on US 97 southbound right after it splits from the US 2/US 97 concurrency in Chelan County.

https://goo.gl/maps/PGfvbS7bxpEMghRK8

There's some places that will have separate reassurance shields posted over a mileage sign in one assembly (I think Oregon does that a lot). But I like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 22, 2023, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Amaury on June 19, 2023, 09:05:47 PM
I don't know if it's unique, but it's certainly interesting. Normally, there'd be a separate reassurance shield in front of it, but this sign is a two-for-one. It has a reassurance shield and control cities on one sign. It's on US 97 southbound right after it splits from the US 2/US 97 concurrency in Chelan County.

https://goo.gl/maps/PGfvbS7bxpEMghRK8
That's actually a good idea for other parts of the country.

Think about it. You're driving south along US 27 and east along Florida State Road 20 in Capps, and all of the sudden US 19 joins up. After this, you can see a sign like this with three destinations for US 19, followed by a similar one with three destinations for US 27.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on June 22, 2023, 10:11:35 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on June 22, 2023, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Amaury on June 19, 2023, 09:05:47 PM
I don't know if it's unique, but it's certainly interesting. Normally, there'd be a separate reassurance shield in front of it, but this sign is a two-for-one. It has a reassurance shield and control cities on one sign. It's on US 97 southbound right after it splits from the US 2/US 97 concurrency in Chelan County.

https://goo.gl/maps/PGfvbS7bxpEMghRK8
That's actually a good idea for other parts of the country.

Think about it. You're driving south along US 27 and east along Florida State Road 20 in Capps, and all of the sudden US 19 joins up. After this, you can see a sign like this with three destinations for US 19, followed by a similar one with three destinations for US 27.
See Virginia...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on June 22, 2023, 10:27:09 AM
I don't have a picture yet, but on my commute (S. Union Street/DE 2 at Elsmere Blvd. in Wilmington) there's a new sign "Right Turn Yield on Green".  I assume it means yield to traffic turning left from the other direction (that I think has an arrow).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on June 22, 2023, 12:35:26 PM
Quote from: elsmere241 on June 22, 2023, 10:27:09 AM
I don't have a picture yet, but on my commute (S. Union Street/DE 2 at Elsmere Blvd. in Wilmington) there's a new sign "Right Turn Yield on Green".  I assume it means yield to traffic turning left from the other direction (that I think has an arrow).
Is there a crosswalk?  If so, it could easily mean "yield to pedestrians".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 22, 2023, 12:41:24 PM
I thought maybe it was at a slip lane, but I don't see there being one of those at that intersection.  Hmm..
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 22, 2023, 12:48:14 PM
Looks like there's a school on the one corner, as well as a bus stop. Probably something to do with that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on June 22, 2023, 01:25:39 PM
Let me see what StreetView shows, because there have been a few changes in recent years.

(Edited to reflect observations on the way home.)

The strip mall shown under construction is now open, though it's had a hard time keeping tenants.  The "school" is a combination boys and girls club/senior center, and its parking is off Elsmere Blvd.  (There is another school in the neighborhood southeast of Union.)  The bus stop sign is right below the yield on green sign now, going southwest on DE 2 / Union.

Elsmere Blvd. does not have signals or a stop sign because it's one-way away from the intersection.  DE 2 / Union going northeast still does not have a turn arrow onto Elsmere Blvd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 1995hoo on June 23, 2023, 03:25:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Spicxer/status/1671976023296974867

Note, also, that the intersection in question is a bit less than a mile south of the infamous park-and-ride lot at the eastern end of I-70 in the City of Baltimore.  :bigass:

Memorial Stadium was about 7.5 miles away from that location on the other side of the city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on June 24, 2023, 04:12:37 AM
For years there was an old World's Fair sign on the back of a repurposed sign by the Pike Place Marker.  It went away before I got a digital camera and thought to take a picture of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on June 24, 2023, 09:16:37 AM
Both of these are temporary signs on VA-230 north of Stanardsville.

(https://i.postimg.cc/LsSvF4Zg/4-F18078-E-9-BBE-4-E23-B97-F-467-EFCC7726-C.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bJNTd6gz/D0-C1-ED1-D-4-DAD-47-AB-9590-5-CEC287-D0952.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on June 24, 2023, 09:57:03 AM
Remember those pictures I took of the pedestrian crossing signal button signs that were reused for heaters in railroad station shelters on Metro-North? Check out this sign below the countdown clock at the Downtown Lakeland Bus Terminal in Lakeland, Florida.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Citrus_Connection_Downtown_Lakeland_Bus_Terminal_%288%29.jpg/640px-Citrus_Connection_Downtown_Lakeland_Bus_Terminal_%288%29.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on June 26, 2023, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 23, 2023, 03:25:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Spicxer/status/1671976023296974867

Note, also, that the intersection in question is a bit less than a mile south of the infamous park-and-ride lot at the eastern end of I-70 in the City of Baltimore.  :bigass:

Memorial Stadium was about 7.5 miles away from that location on the other side of the city.

Interesting in looking at Street View over the years is that the Memorial Stadium side of the sign has looked better over time somehow.  It looks like they may have painted it over (not very well) and that covering has come off over time. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on June 27, 2023, 09:17:13 AM
All trucks, but also no trucks over 4 tons, sign is also fading to show a 50 mph speed limit

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Su41sa9mihWCkZgj8

40 mph warning sign without any actual warning sign
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4cYPoHjaLCTNXf5P9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on June 27, 2023, 09:19:07 AM
Are rocks considered signs? (MA 62 ↗, north end of Old Road to 9 Acre Corner, Concord MA)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4550835,-71.3747029,3a,22.2y,32.02h,87.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJKV22GONZzw-s0j2dspYSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4550835,-71.3747029,3a,22.2y,32.02h,87.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJKV22GONZzw-s0j2dspYSQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 27, 2023, 03:36:37 PM
When part of Rue Lalement in Québec City was removed last year, a sign was left up, advising people not to park in what is now grass and trees...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53006715193_d3bd52db77_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oL2gGD)Not much of a street to not park on - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2oL2gGD) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on June 27, 2023, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 27, 2023, 03:36:37 PM
When part of Rue Lalement in Québec City was removed last year, a sign was left up, advising people not to park in what is now grass and trees...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53006715193_d3bd52db77_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oL2gGD)Not much of a street to not park on - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2oL2gGD) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

I mean, it's good advice.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on June 27, 2023, 05:03:54 PM
Courtesy AARoads.com this sign is awful.
https://www.aaroads.com/ar/030/i-030-e-exit-012-3.jpg
The font needs a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on June 27, 2023, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: formulanone on June 27, 2023, 03:42:54 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on June 27, 2023, 03:36:37 PM
When part of Rue Lalement in Québec City was removed last year, a sign was left up, advising people not to park in what is now grass and trees...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53006715193_d3bd52db77_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oL2gGD)Not much of a street to not park on - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2oL2gGD) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

I mean, it's good advice.
True, I'm definitely inclined to not park there with the car I don't own.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on June 27, 2023, 05:17:59 PM
Spotted on NY 590 exit 10.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.195869,-77.5464704,3a,15y,346.69h,91.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spBnqM4zTKSQJD3UJ4iWFSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu

Not sure what font that is but the 10 in this gore exit sign is of skinny numerals.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on June 28, 2023, 08:00:05 PM
The US 23 font here on US 30 heading west from Mansfield is something.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218935155410384&set=a.10218935337414934)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on June 29, 2023, 03:38:45 AM
Interstate 82 westbound before the rest area between Selah and Ellensburg: https://goo.gl/maps/95sqYYWG3uXUFp4C7

Blank sign on one of the posts, or at least appears to be. Not sure what it used to display or used to be. The sign isn't there at all on the 2013 capture, but is there on 2008 and 2007. Not sure about 2012, as it's obscured by the semi.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on June 29, 2023, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: Amaury on June 29, 2023, 03:38:45 AM
Not sure about 2012, as it's obscured by the semi.

View of the back:  https://goo.gl/maps/yy5ACJTgY5SPffXH7
View of the front:  https://goo.gl/maps/hj57LSsrxb1C3ETt7

Looking at other rest areas...
FREE COFFEE / VOLUNTEER PROGRAM (https://goo.gl/maps/E1APCbyjTr8xDXcV8), but this is not a foldable sign
Here's one folded up (https://goo.gl/maps/FoiL384HBqBDjdkr9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on June 29, 2023, 01:38:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 29, 2023, 10:35:30 AMLooking at other rest areas...

FREE COFFEE / VOLUNTEER PROGRAM (https://goo.gl/maps/E1APCbyjTr8xDXcV8), but this is not a foldable sign

Here's one folded up (https://goo.gl/maps/FoiL384HBqBDjdkr9)

"Free Coffee" has long been in the WSDOT Sign Fabrication Manual:

(https://i.imgur.com/5I3bgFh.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on June 29, 2023, 02:03:14 PM
I don't know why, but I find it interesting when the Street View car goes to update captures, and it captures broken or downed signs, such as here: https://goo.gl/maps/rpr6cL5G5YhKwiji8

And here it's more easily seen from the road since the camera is mounted on top of the car. For someone like me, I really have to look or pull over, even in the truck. But that also means if a DOT vehicle goes driving by, they should be able see it easier since they sit higher up. I had mentioned that sign in my thread here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32899.msg2844410#msg2844410
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 02, 2023, 02:58:43 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/JdPvQpyx6a9zt5mJ6
A JCT sign for FL 113 above the SB directional shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 02, 2023, 04:24:14 PM
US 63 becomes an east-west route for one intersection in Pine Bluff.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218940713989345&set=a.10218940900834016)

Just west of the west end of AR 190 in Pine Bluff:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218940746830166&set=a.10218940900834016
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/j6WKwdu8f6peie7Z6
Interesting place for an exit gore sign considering the ramp diverges far behind the location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 04, 2023, 11:12:15 AM
^^ Odd place for Exit 168C sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hCrXSyDkhJb9SHub6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/j6WKwdu8f6peie7Z6
Interesting place for an exit gore sign considering the ramp diverges far behind the location.
Quote from: Big John on July 04, 2023, 11:12:15 AM
^^ Odd place for Exit 168C sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hCrXSyDkhJb9SHub6

Must be the same contractor lol😂
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on July 04, 2023, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/j6WKwdu8f6peie7Z6
Interesting place for an exit gore sign considering the ramp diverges far behind the location.

Looks like there used to be collector/distributor lanes that were cut off, but the sign was never moved forward.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 12:49:33 PM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on July 04, 2023, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/j6WKwdu8f6peie7Z6
Interesting place for an exit gore sign considering the ramp diverges far behind the location.

Looks like there used to be collector/distributor lanes that were cut off, but the sign was never moved forward.

I believe so. It was ignored by the project manager and QA post construction and most likely will remain for years to come.

Edit: Here is why.
https://goo.gl/maps/kwJyWygYesu2ALdP8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 04, 2023, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 04, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/j6WKwdu8f6peie7Z6
Interesting place for an exit gore sign considering the ramp diverges far behind the location.
Yeah, I don't know why they did things the way they did NB, especially after making all the changes SB.  It looks unfinished.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 04, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Found in Federal Way, WA:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118719815117443152/1120987935538425856/PXL_20230620_190833916.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 04, 2023, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 04, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Found in Federal Way, WA:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118719815117443152/1120987935538425856/PXL_20230620_190833916.jpg)

Is this southbound 23rd Ave S at S 317 St?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 05, 2023, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 04, 2023, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 04, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Found in Federal Way, WA:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118719815117443152/1120987935538425856/PXL_20230620_190833916.jpg)

Is this southbound 23rd Ave S at S 317 St?

Yep, right at the transit center. 23rd is closed to southbound traffic beyond 317th for light rail construction, hence the sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 05, 2023, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 05, 2023, 04:35:03 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 04, 2023, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 04, 2023, 04:19:30 PM
Found in Federal Way, WA:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118719815117443152/1120987935538425856/PXL_20230620_190833916.jpg)

Is this southbound 23rd Ave S at S 317 St?

Yep, right at the transit center. 23rd is closed to southbound traffic beyond 317th for light rail construction, hence the sign.

Got it, thank you. Last I was there, I remember the light rail was installed over 23rd Ave S, I don't think I expected them to close the street entirely at any point.

Did you notice if it was a single left turn lane and a single right turn lane (for buses only)? The words "all traffic must turn left" is odd to me, seems to imply a double left turn, but I don't think that is possible there as S 317 St is only a single lane eastbound.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on July 05, 2023, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 04, 2023, 11:12:15 AM
^^ Odd place for Exit 168C sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hCrXSyDkhJb9SHub6

Well, the actual gore has an Exit 168B-C sign, so...where else could the 168C go, really?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 06, 2023, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 05, 2023, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 04, 2023, 11:12:15 AM
^^ Odd place for Exit 168C sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hCrXSyDkhJb9SHub6

Well, the actual gore has an Exit 168B-C sign, so...where else could the 168C go, really?

The exit didn't necessarily need to be signed as 168B & 168C but could've been just 168B from the mainline, eliminating the downstream exit gore signs altogether...

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 06, 2023, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 06, 2023, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 05, 2023, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 04, 2023, 11:12:15 AM
^^ Odd place for Exit 168C sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hCrXSyDkhJb9SHub6

Well, the actual gore has an Exit 168B-C sign, so...where else could the 168C go, really?

The exit didn't necessarily need to be signed as 168B & 168C but could've been just 168B from the mainline, eliminating the downstream exit gore signs altogether...


Many states would also omit the 168C gore even if it has its own number.  Or they could just do this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5174755,-71.723542,3a,75y,14.04h,89.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQW29p4kf-9M7eILCAIWPKg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 07, 2023, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 06, 2023, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 06, 2023, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 05, 2023, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 04, 2023, 11:12:15 AM
^^ Odd place for Exit 168C sign: https://goo.gl/maps/hCrXSyDkhJb9SHub6

Well, the actual gore has an Exit 168B-C sign, so...where else could the 168C go, really?

The exit didn't necessarily need to be signed as 168B & 168C but could've been just 168B from the mainline, eliminating the downstream exit gore signs altogether...

Many states would also omit the 168C gore even if it has its own number.  Or they could just do this (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5174755,-71.723542,3a,75y,14.04h,89.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQW29p4kf-9M7eILCAIWPKg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).

A better solution than the first!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 07, 2023, 07:35:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 01, 2023, 03:05:51 AMJust some button copy, with mild vandalism for the latter. I mentioned in another thread somewhere.

Those signs will be torn down soon when the NE 85th Street interchange is converted from a cloverleaf to a three-level dogbone hybrid interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/YxRA24l.jpeg)

If this is the same one you mentioned, it looks like the construction is about to begin: https://www.facebook.com/kirklandwa.gov/posts/pfbid02GUZT5Kr9AZkvMvkS5Kyuuy8wDisZcmmQ5c9KhLMiJa6LkM7kQo667kyp6Da4Ubq3l
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 07, 2023, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 07, 2023, 07:35:05 PM
Quote from: Bruce on March 01, 2023, 03:05:51 AMJust some button copy, with mild vandalism for the latter. I mentioned in another thread somewhere.

Those signs will be torn down soon when the NE 85th Street interchange is converted from a cloverleaf to a three-level dogbone hybrid interchange.

(https://i.imgur.com/YxRA24l.jpeg)

If this is the same one you mentioned, it looks like the construction is about to begin: https://www.facebook.com/kirklandwa.gov/posts/pfbid02GUZT5Kr9AZkvMvkS5Kyuuy8wDisZcmmQ5c9KhLMiJa6LkM7kQo667kyp6Da4Ubq3l

That location is further north, near Totem Lake. The one in Bruce's post is NE 85th, aka former WA-908.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 08, 2023, 11:05:10 AM
A green-on-white parallel parking sign on US 58 BUS in Rose Hill, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969462668044&set=a.10218969601391512)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 08, 2023, 05:06:11 PM
So many signs here in a small space!

https://goo.gl/maps/31w8ZUMVgppxjrAA6

https://goo.gl/maps/HNuaFGjD7GxcjnSCA

https://goo.gl/maps/Gr3eNnYDoZRakDkf6

Same intersection; different angles.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 08, 2023, 05:52:57 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 08, 2023, 05:06:11 PM
So many signs here in a small space!

https://goo.gl/maps/31w8ZUMVgppxjrAA6

https://goo.gl/maps/HNuaFGjD7GxcjnSCA

https://goo.gl/maps/Gr3eNnYDoZRakDkf6

Same intersection; different angles.

I've long maintained that WSDOT's attachment to guide signs has prevented sign salad seen in other states.

This is a good example of how, sometimes, they can still pull it off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 09, 2023, 05:40:13 PM
When the designer can't decide whether "TO" should be capitalized...

(https://i.imgur.com/p5E1lnH.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 09, 2023, 07:43:09 PM
Golf Cart Sign on VA 94 in Fries:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969914799347&set=a.10218969972760796

Interesting US 11/US 21 Sign in Wytheville:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969738994952&set=a.10218969972760796
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 10, 2023, 11:14:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/5MuF1LFeT3TDnWBV7
Half analogue and half digital. The top is old school technology, but the bottom is modern.

Both halves are variable in nature, but the NJTA wants to use both.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 11, 2023, 01:04:15 PM
Common also in NJ, but not so much elsewhere, but NJDOT does love to fabricate reflective signs with strips of reflective materials than actually paint the sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/oWkmpGnt6GhGzi7i8

I believe these were done over former button copy panels to save total replacement costs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on July 11, 2023, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 11, 2023, 01:04:15 PM
Common also in NJ, but not so much elsewhere, but NJDOT does love to fabricate reflective signs with strips of reflective materials than actually paint the sign.
https://goo.gl/maps/oWkmpGnt6GhGzi7i8

I believe these were done over former button copy panels to save total replacement costs.

It almost looks here that vinyl was placed directly over button copy letters. (https://goo.gl/maps/Ddxxpa5YhXt422FV7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 11, 2023, 08:27:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/WJaJ9YqRPkPTPWWG8
This one is odd because the road is a freeway. Trapezoid GSP entrances signs are usually used on non freeway exits to the toll road.

If you pan around you'll see the other side of the freeway has a normal Exit gore sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 11, 2023, 10:36:22 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 11, 2023, 08:27:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/WJaJ9YqRPkPTPWWG8
This one is odd because the road is a freeway. Trapezoid GSP entrances signs are usually used on non freeway exits to the toll road.

If you pan around you'll see the other side of the freeway has a normal Exit gore sign.
To be fair, the NJTA doesn't give a fuck about following standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Interesting.  I guess that means you have to stop twice?  What's the point of that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 12, 2023, 01:02:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Interesting.  I guess that means you have to stop twice?  What's the point of that?

Even without the sign, you have to stop twice if a vehicle is in front of you.  Not any different than any other stop sign.  Here, it seems the purpose of the sign and pavement markings is to keep a space between vehicles.  What's the point of that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 12, 2023, 01:02:51 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 12, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Interesting.  I guess that means you have to stop twice?  What's the point of that?

You bet I am stopping twice.  Its $135 if I don't. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on July 12, 2023, 05:24:08 PM
Looked through the Dubuque city ordinances and couldn't find anything about "Hill Street" regarding the establishment of a do not block kind of zone. Usually things like that (even silly stuff like establishing where stop signs are located) are often there. Regarding the fine, I guess it's a standard Iowa fine for failure to observe regulatory signs (and a lot of other minor driving infractions). I note that per older GSV imagery, the fine was only $100 as recently as 2019.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 12, 2023, 05:50:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on July 12, 2023, 05:24:08 PM
Looked through the Dubuque city ordinances and couldn't find anything about "Hill Street" regarding the establishment of a do not block kind of zone. Usually things like that (even silly stuff like establishing where stop signs are located) are often there. Regarding the fine, I guess it's a standard Iowa fine for failure to observe regulatory signs (and a lot of other minor driving infractions). I note that per older GSV imagery, the fine was only $100 as recently as 2019.

Thats what I am saying!!!  $100 fine, maybe, but I can't afford that extra $35!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 12, 2023, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Not gonna lie, this just sounds like an excuse for police officers to abuse their power.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 12, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Forget the sign. I'm wondering about that future westbound lane under the bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4908857,-90.6794209,3a,75y,116.51h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D116.50819%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 12, 2023, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 12, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Forget the sign. I'm wondering about that future westbound lane under the bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4908857,-90.6794209,3a,75y,116.51h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D116.50819%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).

Wut.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 13, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 12, 2023, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 12, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Forget the sign. I'm wondering about that future westbound lane under the bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4908857,-90.6794209,3a,75y,116.51h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D116.50819%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
Wut.
You mean you don't see that extra space in the underpass currently being used for a sidewalk and a big drainage ditch that's clearly wide enough for two new lanes?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 13, 2023, 11:14:13 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 13, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 12, 2023, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 12, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Forget the sign. I'm wondering about that future westbound lane under the bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4908857,-90.6794209,3a,75y,116.51h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D116.50819%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
Wut.
You mean you don't see that extra space in the underpass currently being used for a sidewalk and a big drainage ditch that's clearly wide enough for two new lanes?
I see the space; I don't see the plans for more lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on July 13, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 09, 2023, 07:43:09 PM
Interesting US 11/US 21 Sign in Wytheville:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969738994952&set=a.10218969972760796

Very interesting. It appears they felt like enhanced milemarker panels would make good junction signage...

Also in the background: I don't see the need for duplicative "Right Lane Ends" and "Lane Ends Merge Left" warning signs on the same post...

Seems like road agency could use some help...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 13, 2023, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 13, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 09, 2023, 07:43:09 PM
Interesting US 11/US 21 Sign in Wytheville:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969738994952&set=a.10218969972760796

Very interesting. It appears they felt like enhanced milemarker panels would make good junction signage...

Also in the background: I don't see the need for duplicative "Right Lane Ends" and "Lane Ends Merge Left" warning signs on the same post...

Seems like road agency could use some help...

I am pretty sure that is a Town of Wytheville installation and not VDOT.  Also I missed US 21 NB's turn onto 4th St just ahead because it was unposted.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 13, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 12, 2023, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 12, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on July 11, 2023, 10:19:50 PM
"Stop Here Until Car Ahead Enters Highway" on an entrance to WB US 20 in Dubuque, Iowa. (https://goo.gl/maps/Nf2nmWPrmWHsnWXb6)
Forget the sign. I'm wondering about that future westbound lane under the bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4908857,-90.6794209,3a,75y,116.51h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D1yhFBymKLMMyVmbyGrewUA%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D116.50819%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
Wut.
You mean you don't see that extra space in the underpass currently being used for a sidewalk and a big drainage ditch that's clearly wide enough for two new lanes?
I mean, I don't see why there would be three carriageways...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 13, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 09, 2023, 07:43:09 PM
Interesting US 11/US 21 Sign in Wytheville:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969738994952&set=a.10218969972760796

Very interesting. It appears they felt like enhanced milemarker panels would make good junction signage...

Also in the background: I don't see the need for duplicative "Right Lane Ends" and "Lane Ends Merge Left" warning signs on the same post...

Seems like road agency could use some help...

I dunno.  StreetView shows a narrow ROW for posting signs on that side of the intersection.  I think the milemarker panels work well as a unisign to post all those shields.
https://goo.gl/maps/qLzrxeq3e1sHnoG58

Now, for the redundant Lane Ends signs and missing US-21 confirmation just past that, they could use some help.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on July 13, 2023, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 13, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 09, 2023, 07:43:09 PM
Interesting US 11/US 21 Sign in Wytheville:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218969738994952&set=a.10218969972760796

Very interesting. It appears they felt like enhanced milemarker panels would make good junction signage...

Also in the background: I don't see the need for duplicative "Right Lane Ends" and "Lane Ends Merge Left" warning signs on the same post...

Seems like road agency could use some help...

I dunno.  StreetView shows a narrow ROW for posting signs on that side of the intersection.  I think the milemarker panels work well as a unisign to post all those shields.
https://goo.gl/maps/qLzrxeq3e1sHnoG58

Now, for the redundant Lane Ends signs and missing US-21 confirmation just past that, they could use some help.

Previous posting (https://goo.gl/maps/riw2eZqjG2DHqRBHA) looks ok to me.

US 21 shield has been missing there past the light for many years.  Now there are also no postings either direction on US 11 where US 21 splits off for I-81.

At least this gem (https://goo.gl/maps/xN1CPLvKM73aEvhc6) is still there (2021)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 13, 2023, 04:30:53 PM
An orange detour shield along VA 122 (https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/355707965_10218973231442261_9092341203102796746_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&cb=99be929b-3346023f&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=oo6mxvG2zvwAX9E1qym&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCL3O542N93kPzLhZsL-RkJ4qtIaj-ypM08KaAJYeV0VA&oe=64B527E6) 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
I dunno.  StreetView shows a narrow ROW for posting signs on that side of the intersection.
Speaking of narrow ROW, here's a BGS over a bicycle path (https://goo.gl/maps/Vw2sZyzRtSv6RNSn9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cockroachking on July 13, 2023, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
I dunno.  StreetView shows a narrow ROW for posting signs on that side of the intersection.
Speaking of narrow ROW, here's a BGS over a bicycle path (https://goo.gl/maps/Vw2sZyzRtSv6RNSn9).
There is a similar installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5355868,-73.8997378,3a,75y,130.34h,85.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7c6AvqNdeN4P8auThnK-7A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) near me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on July 13, 2023, 06:24:44 PM
If I rode my trail bike under one of those signs I'd be tempted to slap the bottom of the sign panel with my hand.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 07:27:56 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on July 13, 2023, 06:24:44 PM
If I rode my trail bike under one of those signs I'd be tempted to slap the bottom of the sign panel with my hand.

Or your head, or something else.  That first one (in Quebec) has definitely taken a hit on its bottom edge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 14, 2023, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 13, 2023, 11:14:13 AM
I see the space; I don't see the plans for more lanes.
I see the space too, and my immediate thought is that it's for new westbound lanes.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 02:44:24 PM
I mean, I don't see why there would be three carriageways...
Well, maybe they wanted to convert the existing westbound lane into a Super-2 express lane. Or maybe they want to converted into a grassy median. Who knows?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on July 14, 2023, 01:23:21 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 13, 2023, 04:30:53 PM
An orange detour shield along VA 122 (https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/355707965_10218973231442261_9092341203102796746_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&cb=99be929b-3346023f&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=oo6mxvG2zvwAX9E1qym&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCL3O542N93kPzLhZsL-RkJ4qtIaj-ypM08KaAJYeV0VA&oe=64B527E6) 
That's pretty jarring.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tchafe1978 on July 14, 2023, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 14, 2023, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 13, 2023, 11:14:13 AM
I see the space; I don't see the plans for more lanes.
I see the space too, and my immediate thought is that it's for new westbound lanes.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 02:44:24 PM
I mean, I don't see why there would be three carriageways...
Well, maybe they wanted to convert the existing westbound lane into a Super-2 express lane. Or maybe they want to converted into a grassy median. Who knows?

There is no plan at all for any more lanes on US 20. The bridges at the next interchange up the hill have no such provisions and they were all built at the same time.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: fillup420 on July 15, 2023, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: cockroachking on July 13, 2023, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
I dunno.  StreetView shows a narrow ROW for posting signs on that side of the intersection.
Speaking of narrow ROW, here's a BGS over a bicycle path (https://goo.gl/maps/Vw2sZyzRtSv6RNSn9).
There is a similar installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5355868,-73.8997378,3a,75y,130.34h,85.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7c6AvqNdeN4P8auThnK-7A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) near me.

My turn! (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9968547,-78.9135961,3a,19.3y,96.91h,88.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP11hYloHKytP9vEy9A4WLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 15, 2023, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on July 14, 2023, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 14, 2023, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 13, 2023, 11:14:13 AM
I see the space; I don't see the plans for more lanes.
I see the space too, and my immediate thought is that it's for new westbound lanes.
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 02:44:24 PM
I mean, I don't see why there would be three carriageways...
Well, maybe they wanted to convert the existing westbound lane into a Super-2 express lane. Or maybe they want to converted into a grassy median. Who knows?

There is no plan at all for any more lanes on US 20. The bridges at the next interchange up the hill have no such provisions and they were all built at the same time.
It just looks like they had room for that sidewalk/shared use path.  No biggie.  Not all spaces are for road lanes...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 15, 2023, 08:32:36 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on July 15, 2023, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: cockroachking on July 13, 2023, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 13, 2023, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 13, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
I dunno.  StreetView shows a narrow ROW for posting signs on that side of the intersection.
Speaking of narrow ROW, here's a BGS over a bicycle path (https://goo.gl/maps/Vw2sZyzRtSv6RNSn9).
There is a similar installation (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5355868,-73.8997378,3a,75y,130.34h,85.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7c6AvqNdeN4P8auThnK-7A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1) near me.

My turn! (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9968547,-78.9135961,3a,19.3y,96.91h,88.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP11hYloHKytP9vEy9A4WLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
My word.  These kinds of installations seem silly since they make people duck.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 15, 2023, 08:44:07 PM
Old mileage sign near Mount Frissell Trailhead on West St near CT/MA border.  Probably been posted on here somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look it up this time around. :D

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53047902497_f122b47a3a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oPEnfz)Old Mileage Sign by Mount Frissell Trailhead (https://flic.kr/p/2oPEnfz)

And I like the Taconic Parkway's enhanced mileage markers:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53048482476_a0e03630e4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oPHkEd)Taconic Parkway Enhanced Mile Marker (https://flic.kr/p/2oPHkEd)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 16, 2023, 06:15:18 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/hXWqWmHJUvP39APF8
A NJ route shield posted in New York actually informing motorists that NY 440 is to become NJ 440 especially that no NY exits exist along NY 440 into New Jersey.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tchafe1978 on July 16, 2023, 10:41:28 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/3ghbXeEXaMrj5dkV8

OK, I found Waldo!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 16, 2023, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on July 16, 2023, 10:41:28 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/3ghbXeEXaMrj5dkV8

OK, I found Waldo!
Surprised a village of about 500 people would be a control city 13 miles away.  It is on WI 57 which is a better route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tchafe1978 on July 16, 2023, 11:09:53 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 16, 2023, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on July 16, 2023, 10:41:28 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/3ghbXeEXaMrj5dkV8

OK, I found Waldo!
Surprised a village of about 500 people would be a control city 13 miles away.  It is on WI 57 which is a better route.

The sign in the  northbound direction also lists Sheboygan. I wonder why this one doesn't list Sheboygan as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 01:05:49 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53041467085/in/dateposted-public/
Glad to see some text signing still around.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53041467085_33d21ec758_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 17, 2023, 07:53:38 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2023, 08:32:36 PM
My word.  These kinds of installations seem silly since they make people duck.
I know of a sign along NY 112 where I would often have problems ducking. It was a divided highway sign south of where the road became a four-lane highway in the vicinity of the Long Island Expressway. 

It's kind of hard to duck beneath those when you're 5'11 1/2" and you're on a bike.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 17, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)

There's a couple of those mystery exits along US 101 in California, mostly around Monterey and SLO counties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 17, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 17, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)

There's a couple of those mystery exits along US 101 in California, mostly around Monterey and SLO counties.

The first example is weird for Florida, where there's almost always a town or named/numbered road used with a guide sign. And it's been that way for about 25 years, without any control cities or road labeling. I-10 also had a weird exception for CR 257, figuring Aucilla was too small, perhaps?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8237/28565713004_80a0d037cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KwfKgb)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 17, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 17, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)

There's a couple of those mystery exits along US 101 in California, mostly around Monterey and SLO counties.

The first example is weird for Florida, where there's almost always a town or named/numbered road used with a guide sign. And it's been that way for about 25 years, without any control cities or road labeling. I-10 also had a weird exception for CR 257, figuring Aucilla was too small, perhaps?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8237/28565713004_80a0d037cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KwfKgb)

I-4 had one in Lakeland.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/15770159128
A few years ago “ Polk City” was added.

I-95 at US 1 in Volusia was that way until the mid 2000’s. Now it has this https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/27690169167

I-95 near the GA border still has one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52885667263
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SilverMustang2011 on July 18, 2023, 08:05:10 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 17, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 17, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)

There's a couple of those mystery exits along US 101 in California, mostly around Monterey and SLO counties.

The first example is weird for Florida, where there's almost always a town or named/numbered road used with a guide sign. And it's been that way for about 25 years, without any control cities or road labeling. I-10 also had a weird exception for CR 257, figuring Aucilla was too small, perhaps?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8237/28565713004_80a0d037cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KwfKgb)

I-4 had one in Lakeland.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/15770159128
A few years ago " Polk City"  was added.

I-95 at US 1 in Volusia was that way until the mid 2000's. Now it has this https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/27690169167

I-95 near the GA border still has one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52885667263

I-75's new Overpass Road exit doesn't have any cities listed either, but Overpass Road is a local road and they built the exit for the suburbs in between State Roads 52 and 54: https://goo.gl/maps/ZPqaeELXxzsracDV6.

The opposite is also interesting. This exit onto a mile-long side street in the middle of Fort Myers still gets "Fort Myers" listed as a control city, and in a larger font than the name of the road: https://goo.gl/maps/82WYB2JkfTB4VA9N8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 18, 2023, 09:02:27 AM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 18, 2023, 08:05:10 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 17, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 17, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)

There's a couple of those mystery exits along US 101 in California, mostly around Monterey and SLO counties.

The first example is weird for Florida, where there's almost always a town or named/numbered road used with a guide sign. And it's been that way for about 25 years, without any control cities or road labeling. I-10 also had a weird exception for CR 257, figuring Aucilla was too small, perhaps?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8237/28565713004_80a0d037cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KwfKgb)

I-4 had one in Lakeland.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/15770159128
A few years ago “ Polk City” was added.

I-95 at US 1 in Volusia was that way until the mid 2000’s. Now it has this https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/27690169167

I-95 near the GA border still has one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52885667263

I-75's new Overpass Road exit doesn't have any cities listed either, but Overpass Road is a local road and they built the exit for the suburbs in between State Roads 52 and 54: https://goo.gl/maps/ZPqaeELXxzsracDV6.

The opposite is also interesting. This exit onto a mile-long side street in the middle of Fort Myers still gets "Fort Myers" listed as a control city, and in a larger font than the name of the road: https://goo.gl/maps/82WYB2JkfTB4VA9N8

I have seen Texas do it (https://goo.gl/maps/v7981a7Xu8p83nu17) when it's for the paralleling US Highway (https://goo.gl/maps/Ar2bBA5zvEKGGpSU8) that is staying close to the interstate that is, as I like to call it, "checking in and checking out".  Basically, they give you the benefit of the doubt of knowing the US Highway and the interstate go to the same town so control cities are a waste of space. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 18, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 11:42:49 PM
I-95 near the GA border still has one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52885667263
Simple solution to that;
Kingsland, GA
Yulee
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SilverMustang2011 on July 19, 2023, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 18, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 11:42:49 PM
I-95 near the GA border still has one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52885667263
Simple solution to that;
Kingsland, GA
Yulee

My guess is that they didn't think it was worth signing either since exits 373 in Florida and 3 in Georgia are more direct routes to Yulee and Kingsland. That said, that hasn't stopped Florida from signing cities before, like here https://goo.gl/maps/SCNstgHHuPhSxvsB7. If you're going south, you passed the main Lake City exit 20 minutes ago. If you're going north, you've passed exits 399 and 404, which are much closer to High Springs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 20, 2023, 03:25:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/A4zetSo6WsmT5PTe9
When they razed the former Niagara Scenic Parkway they didn't take the sign with the grading.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 20, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
These aren't strictly erroneous, just slightly misleading, so I'm posting them here under "odd/interesting."

Southbound WA 281 about to meet its spur route, where you turn left to be on the spur route:

https://goo.gl/maps/aoi6fG4DGckhkMy56

https://goo.gl/maps/H6GyipKsHALimaCh6

https://goo.gl/maps/HLn4gKkM86bGb9Wv8

These signs say, for example, left for Interstate 90 east and straight for Interstate 90 west, but, actually, both places lead to entrance ramps for both directions, so the signs are slightly inaccurate.

Spokane, as such, could also be on here, though I realize signs don't usually have more than three control cities.

Now, when you start getting to the entrance ramps for Interstate 90 on the southern terminus of mainline WA 281, the signs are accurate:

https://goo.gl/maps/nbJjTHWXeS29ZBrG6

https://goo.gl/maps/fYQvX75KnbUfui8KA

Although for that first one I would mention eastbound and Spokane, too, but it's not as odd as the ones back at the junction with WA 281 Spur.

And northbound WA 281 before the junction with its spur route does it accurately, so I don't know why southbound is odd: https://goo.gl/maps/TQVddLP3Xv24DMae7

_____

This sign would be better after the turn, as that's what it's referring to. Where it is now is confusing, as it makes it seem to go straight for WA 150, when WA 150 turns right at the intersection, and the right lane is a right turn only lane: https://goo.gl/maps/362jrYzABvLjJoZp7

Signage-wise, signs don't acknowledge the US 97A and WA 150 concurrency in Chelan: https://goo.gl/maps/zRm32bCuo57PugLk6

That's actually US 97A north / WA 150 east.

When you're on westbound WA 150 and come up to the junction where it joins US 97A southbound, the big guide sign in front of you says TO WA 150 for left-turning traffic, when it should actually say WEST WA 150: https://goo.gl/maps/PxjGxQkdRVTweMk89

There is one exception, and it's this overhead sign here, where WA 150 east joins US 97A north: https://goo.gl/maps/mYbrPXQp6MekZAax7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on July 20, 2023, 08:21:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 20, 2023, 03:25:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/A4zetSo6WsmT5PTe9
When they razed the former Niagara Scenic Parkway they didn't take the sign with the grading.
There's a connection to the multi-use path where the road used to be, so it looks like it's still fulfilling its purpose.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 21, 2023, 07:27:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 20, 2023, 08:21:03 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 20, 2023, 03:25:15 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/A4zetSo6WsmT5PTe9
When they razed the former Niagara Scenic Parkway they didn't take the sign with the grading.
There's a connection to the multi-use path where the road used to be, so it looks like it's still fulfilling its purpose.

Nice of them to have a sign for the multi-users telling them the direction of the rest room (over the bridge)...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 22, 2023, 05:02:40 PM
I was in Kittitas a little bit ago and noticed something attached to a few of the signs. There might be more, these are just the ones I noticed since that's the area I drove through. They appear to be antennas or something for survey-related stuff maybe? I don't know. It seems to be a city thing and not a DOT thing as one is on a local city stop sign.

(https://i.imgur.com/bdB3vfT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OjtjfSh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uy9Ghly.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on July 23, 2023, 01:45:06 AM
Those are traffic study cameras (https://miovision.com/scout/scout).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on July 23, 2023, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 19, 2023, 07:47:42 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on July 18, 2023, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 17, 2023, 11:42:49 PM
I-95 near the GA border still has one.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52885667263
Simple solution to that;
Kingsland, GA
Yulee

My guess is that they didn't think it was worth signing either since exits 373 in Florida and 3 in Georgia are more direct routes to Yulee and Kingsland.
Even Exit 1 in Georgia can take you to Kingsland, if you're willing to meander through the woods of southeastern Georgia before reaching US 17.  One thing I know is that there used to be a lot more motorist services along US 17 between Yulee and Kingsland. More gas station motels, restaurants and such. If you look at the Big Blue signs there they don't even acknowledge that there's still an RV park southeast of Exit 380.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/NB_I-95%3B_No_More_Camping_at_Exit_380.jpg/640px-NB_I-95%3B_No_More_Camping_at_Exit_380.jpg)
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7124781,-81.6749632,1988m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu

I just got this in my head, but I suspect this might be an attempt to discourage an increase in traffic along the US 17 St. Mary's River Bridge.

There's at least one other restaurant I know of in Kingsland that looks like it's aimed at tourists;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Steffens_Restaurant_%26_Souveniers%3B_Kingsland%2C_GA.jpg/640px-Steffens_Restaurant_%26_Souveniers%3B_Kingsland%2C_GA.jpg)
One other thing; Did you notice a lot of the business located in Becker and Gross are addressed as being in Yulee?


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 23, 2023, 08:58:54 PM
My wife and I saw this on our recent trip to California. (https://goo.gl/maps/5PpVJrCGkx9ZWi446)  Neither one of us had seen one before and found it to be a very descriptive way to say don't ride your bike over the railroad tracks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 23, 2023, 10:18:11 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 23, 2023, 08:58:54 PM
My wife and I saw this on our recent trip to California. (https://goo.gl/maps/5PpVJrCGkx9ZWi446)  Neither one of us had seen one before and found it to be a very descriptive way to say don't ride your bike over the rail road tracks.
Usually it is safe to cross the tracks at a 90-degree angle. But scrolling down shows it at 90 degrees for a very short length, so I would conclude a significant amount of people were crossing their bikes at a skew angle and getting caught in the tracks and the signs were installed meaning be careful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SilverMustang2011 on July 24, 2023, 08:09:34 AM
 [/quote]
Even Exit 1 in Georgia can take you to Kingsland, if you're willing to meander through the woods of southeastern Georgia before reaching US 17.  One thing I know is that there used to be a lot more motorist services along US 17 between Yulee and Kingsland. More gas station motels, restaurants and such. If you look at the Big Blue signs there they don't even acknowledge that there's still an RV park southeast of Exit 380.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/NB_I-95%3B_No_More_Camping_at_Exit_380.jpg/640px-NB_I-95%3B_No_More_Camping_at_Exit_380.jpg)
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.7124781,-81.6749632,1988m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu

I just got this in my head, but I suspect this might be an attempt to discourage an increase in traffic along the US 17 St. Mary's River Bridge.

There's at least one other restaurant I know of in Kingsland that looks like it's aimed at tourists;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Steffens_Restaurant_%26_Souveniers%3B_Kingsland%2C_GA.jpg/640px-Steffens_Restaurant_%26_Souveniers%3B_Kingsland%2C_GA.jpg)
One other thing; Did you notice a lot of the business located in Becker and Gross are addressed as being in Yulee?
[/quote]

Steffen's is pretty solid! I went there a few years ago on a road trip to North Carolina. It routed us up 17 to get there and I certainly agree about that bridge. Very pretty but also very narrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SilverMustang2011 on July 24, 2023, 08:20:50 AM
Here's one. Both control cities listed on the exit are miles West of 75, even though you are in Wesley Chapel at the exit: https://goo.gl/maps/C8fWFDkVhFUnYAgU6.

This subsequent distance sign kind of confirms it: https://goo.gl/maps/gzEUZxQ2cXkBCsZb8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 24, 2023, 08:27:45 AM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 24, 2023, 08:20:50 AM
Here's one. Both control cities listed on the exit are miles West of 75, even though you are in Wesley Chapel at the exit: https://goo.gl/maps/C8fWFDkVhFUnYAgU6.

This subsequent distance sign kind of confirms it: https://goo.gl/maps/gzEUZxQ2cXkBCsZb8


I heard that the Mayor of Tarpon Springs lobbied for his city to be primary when that exit opened in the early aughts.

As far as Wesley Chapel goes, that community just recently expanded to that signed exit hence why it's not mentioned.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9) 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 24, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9)

A look behind it reveals why.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dEWcJNMngKbKq5Sa8


Also, a little further down at the exit, contractors blocked the exit gore sign with a construction sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: plain on July 24, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9)

A look behind it reveals why.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dEWcJNMngKbKq5Sa8


Also, a little further down at the exit, contractors blocked the exit gore sign with a construction sign.

Westbound has the same setup (https://goo.gl/maps/yyAEMwfaKRhLo7DJ8) and the same sign not used behind the sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Ebv6NA4taWPUyu4Q9)  What is the Olustee Battle Festival?  Does it not exist anymore or is it something seasonal that they lift up to add to the sign only on those times?  A quick google search says it's a city festival.  I just have never seen a permanent sign for a local festival that can be up or obscured when the festival is either going on or not.  Usually, I see festival highways signs taken care of by temporary or construction type signs. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 24, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: plain on July 24, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9)

A look behind it reveals why.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dEWcJNMngKbKq5Sa8


Also, a little further down at the exit, contractors blocked the exit gore sign with a construction sign.

Westbound has the same setup (https://goo.gl/maps/yyAEMwfaKRhLo7DJ8) and the same sign not used behind the sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Ebv6NA4taWPUyu4Q9)  What is the Olustee Battle Festival?  Does it not exist anymore or is it something seasonal that they lift up to add to the sign only on those times?  A quick google search says it's a city festival.  I just have never seen a permanent sign for a local festival that can be up or obscured when the festival is either going on or not.  Usually, I see festival highways signs taken care of by temporary or construction type signs.
Such signs are actually commonplace.  See also the foldable signs for the New York State Fair and there's some fair in Fonda, NY that gets the same treatment.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 24, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: plain on July 24, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9)

A look behind it reveals why.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dEWcJNMngKbKq5Sa8


Also, a little further down at the exit, contractors blocked the exit gore sign with a construction sign.

Westbound has the same setup (https://goo.gl/maps/yyAEMwfaKRhLo7DJ8) and the same sign not used behind the sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Ebv6NA4taWPUyu4Q9)  What is the Olustee Battle Festival?  Does it not exist anymore or is it something seasonal that they lift up to add to the sign only on those times?  A quick google search says it's a city festival.  I just have never seen a permanent sign for a local festival that can be up or obscured when the festival is either going on or not.  Usually, I see festival highways signs taken care of by temporary or construction type signs.
Such signs are actually commonplace.  See also the foldable signs for the New York State Fair and there's some fair in Fonda, NY that gets the same treatment.

Three fairs does not equal commonplace. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on July 24, 2023, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 24, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: plain on July 24, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9)

A look behind it reveals why.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dEWcJNMngKbKq5Sa8


Also, a little further down at the exit, contractors blocked the exit gore sign with a construction sign.

Westbound has the same setup (https://goo.gl/maps/yyAEMwfaKRhLo7DJ8) and the same sign not used behind the sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Ebv6NA4taWPUyu4Q9)  What is the Olustee Battle Festival?  Does it not exist anymore or is it something seasonal that they lift up to add to the sign only on those times?  A quick google search says it's a city festival.  I just have never seen a permanent sign for a local festival that can be up or obscured when the festival is either going on or not.  Usually, I see festival highways signs taken care of by temporary or construction type signs.
Such signs are actually commonplace.  See also the foldable signs for the New York State Fair and there's some fair in Fonda, NY that gets the same treatment.

Three fairs does not equal commonplace.
They are merely examples of the broader frequency.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on July 24, 2023, 08:47:00 PM
You'd think the exit panel would be on the right, but ... (also on advance signage)

https://goo.gl/maps/jF9yyppPzWM4FnvH8

"REST AREA 2/3 MILE"

https://goo.gl/maps/Xo1MZ1YFDj781YVk9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on July 24, 2023, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 24, 2023, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 01:21:55 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 24, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: plain on July 24, 2023, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 24, 2023, 10:36:06 AM
Not the oddest thing I have ever seen, but interesting how the exit tab doesn't line up with the BGS at all. (https://goo.gl/maps/F5JkVwBxjKQgiBJQ9)

A look behind it reveals why.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dEWcJNMngKbKq5Sa8


Also, a little further down at the exit, contractors blocked the exit gore sign with a construction sign.

Westbound has the same setup (https://goo.gl/maps/yyAEMwfaKRhLo7DJ8) and the same sign not used behind the sign. (https://goo.gl/maps/Ebv6NA4taWPUyu4Q9)  What is the Olustee Battle Festival?  Does it not exist anymore or is it something seasonal that they lift up to add to the sign only on those times?  A quick google search says it's a city festival.  I just have never seen a permanent sign for a local festival that can be up or obscured when the festival is either going on or not.  Usually, I see festival highways signs taken care of by temporary or construction type signs.
Such signs are actually commonplace.  See also the foldable signs for the New York State Fair and there's some fair in Fonda, NY that gets the same treatment.

Three fairs does not equal commonplace.
They are merely examples of the broader frequency.

The Olustee Battle Festival was to commemorate the largest Civil War battle that occurred in Florida; it was primarily a food-producing state since it had a very low population at the time of the Confederacy and many of its ports eventually would up under Union control.

Otherwise there isn't much going on in Olustee. Nearby Lake City, a control city for I-10 due to the nearby junction with I-75, is closer to an "Albert Lea" than a "Limon". 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 05:01:03 AM
I guess since the two signs are each on two different highways, it's not all that special, but when approaching the SR 28 junction while heading north on SR 283 to its northern terminus, the control city for SR 28 West is Quincy: https://goo.gl/maps/e4VqsF2QnvUKTRGy9 However, when approaching the same junction while heading west on SR 28, the control city for SR 28 West is Wenatchee: https://goo.gl/maps/cA5gZmoSXmvZXrTV8 Normally, they would be the same.

Also of interest is that the sign in that second link, as well as this one, while not actually incorrect, say SR 283 to I-90 instead of SR 283 South to I-90: https://goo.gl/maps/WkHp2c8crdy6CKpM7 Normally, a directionally in a case like this would be included since that's where SR 283 ends or begins, depending on which direction you're heading.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 25, 2023, 06:56:05 AM
This QC 138 shield is both odd and old:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53067191160_be1682b5e8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oRne6J)QC 138 at old QC 371 - 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2oRne6J) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

I would date this shield to the early 80s, as it's definitely younger than original installs (which are identical across the province), but it still sports the older style of fleur de lys that matches the one on the coat of arms. It's a Québec City install, and there's a possibility it was manufactured in house (which would explain the weirdness).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2023, 07:32:50 AM
^^^^ I like the inverted lane arrows. I'm guessing that's standard in Quebec.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 25, 2023, 07:51:36 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2023, 07:32:50 AM
^^^^ I like the inverted lane arrows. I'm guessing that's standard in Quebec.
Yes, it's been standard since 2003. It was black on white prior to that date.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2023, 08:39:59 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/j9CHXcVoMYwXSyMx6
This assembly is interesting because the second exit using Pompton Lakes as a control city brings you there via US 202( the same road as the first exit).  You use the second exit to reach Pompton Lakes along US 202 SB before Morristown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 25, 2023, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 24, 2023, 08:47:00 PM
You'd think the exit panel would be on the right, but ... (also on advance signage)

https://goo.gl/maps/jF9yyppPzWM4FnvH8

"REST AREA 2/3 MILE"

https://goo.gl/maps/Xo1MZ1YFDj781YVk9

Also downstream, one of the rare MUTCD compliant gore signs in California. (https://goo.gl/maps/Horg7vpkCNNodzcP6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 25, 2023, 02:29:46 PM
I found a 3/8 mile sign for the truss on PA 87 SB over Loyalsock Creek ahead (https://gis.penndot.gov/videolog/?isPopUp=true&cn=56&rt=0087&sg=0100&offset=2698&year=2022). 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 25, 2023, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 05:01:03 AM
I guess since the two signs are each on two different highways, it's not all that special, but when approaching the SR 28 junction while heading north on SR 283 to its northern terminus, the control city for SR 28 West is Quincy: https://goo.gl/maps/e4VqsF2QnvUKTRGy9 However, when approaching the same junction while heading west on SR 28, the control city for SR 28 West is Wenatchee: https://goo.gl/maps/cA5gZmoSXmvZXrTV8 Normally, they would be the same.

Also of interest is that the sign in that second link, as well as this one, while not actually incorrect, say SR 283 to I-90 instead of SR 283 South to I-90: https://goo.gl/maps/WkHp2c8crdy6CKpM7 Normally, a directionally in a case like this would be included since that's where SR 283 ends or begins, depending on which direction you're heading.

Control city changes really aren't "unique, odd, or interesting". And neither are Street View links.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 06:34:21 PM
Interesting is subjective. Everyone's definition of interesting is different.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 25, 2023, 08:44:28 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 25, 2023, 07:51:36 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2023, 07:32:50 AM
^^^^ I like the inverted lane arrows. I'm guessing that's standard in Quebec.
Yes, it's been standard since 2003. It was black on white prior to that date.

Also standard in the rest of Canada, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 25, 2023, 09:10:31 PM
Someone forgot to capitalize corner on US 22 WB in Ebensburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219136740809893&set=a.10219136906174027).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on July 25, 2023, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 25, 2023, 09:10:31 PM
Someone forgot to capitalize corner on US 22 WB in Ebensburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219136740809893&set=a.10219136906174027).

Clearly there's nothing special about that corner  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 11:02:07 PM
I'm not familiar with the area, obviously, but is it also supposed to be Mundy's Corner? (The apostrophe.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 25, 2023, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 11:02:07 PMI'm not familiar with the area, obviously, but is it also supposed to be Mundy's Corner? (The apostrophe.)

It is Mundys Corner.  The US Board of Geographical Names does not like apostrophes and permits very few exceptions (Martha's Vineyard is one of them).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: andrepoiy on July 25, 2023, 11:11:28 PM
Found on I-90 WB near Erie, PA.

(https://i.imgur.com/rs2ogIN.png)

https://goo.gl/maps/8kVaMf953Lm71Kzy8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 25, 2023, 11:09:54 PMIt is Mundys Corner.  The US Board of Geographical Names does not like apostrophes and permits very few exceptions (Martha's Vineyard is one of them).

Mary's Corner, Washington, would be another one of those exceptions.

Westbound US 12: https://goo.gl/maps/FAVjYEhQfj2bWjQh8
Eastbound US 12: https://goo.gl/maps/FXPshfpuCRpgAvRV6

Although it's certainly by no means consistent, such as Coles Corner, Washington.

Westbound US 2: https://goo.gl/maps/m95nDfL2KDLxoLyo9
Eastbound US 2: https://goo.gl/maps/k4CmtB1imtf5e59g9

According to Wikipedia, the former is named after Mary Loftis, but the Wikipedia article for the latter doesn't really provide much background information. So, I don't know if it's named after someone named Cole or if Coles is a last name, like Stevens Pass, named after John Frank Stevens, but not as belonging to him.

What I have seen more often is them using apostrophes to abbreviate words, such as "national" being "nat'l."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on July 26, 2023, 04:21:14 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 25, 2023, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 11:02:07 PMI'm not familiar with the area, obviously, but is it also supposed to be Mundy's Corner? (The apostrophe.)

It is Mundys Corner.  The US Board of Geographical Names does not like apostrophes and permits very few exceptions (Martha's Vineyard is one of them).

Which is dumb. Theres no reason to omit apostrophes. Why was this apostrophe ban even implemented anyways?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 26, 2023, 04:37:19 AM
How come the spelling Nazi hasn't weighed in on this?
:confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 26, 2023, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 26, 2023, 04:37:19 AM
How come the spelling [redacted] hasn't weighed in on this?
:confused:

It's only been 8 hours, and his current posting rate is way less than once per day.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2023, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 11:29:15 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 25, 2023, 11:09:54 PMIt is Mundys Corner.  The US Board of Geographical Names does not like apostrophes and permits very few exceptions (Martha's Vineyard is one of them).

Mary's Corner, Washington, would be another one of those exceptions.

Westbound US 12: https://goo.gl/maps/FAVjYEhQfj2bWjQh8
Eastbound US 12: https://goo.gl/maps/FXPshfpuCRpgAvRV6

Although it's certainly by no means consistent, such as Coles Corner, Washington.

Westbound US 2: https://goo.gl/maps/m95nDfL2KDLxoLyo9
Eastbound US 2: https://goo.gl/maps/k4CmtB1imtf5e59g9

According to Wikipedia, the former is named after Mary Loftis, but the Wikipedia article for the latter doesn't really provide much background information. So, I don't know if it's named after someone named Cole or if Coles is a last name, like Stevens Pass, named after John Frank Stevens, but not as belonging to him.

What I have seen more often is them using apostrophes to abbreviate words, such as "national" being "nat'l."

Carl's Corner, Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/JrCWEDfcf4DF4DJE7) is another exception.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on July 26, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2023, 10:40:02 AM

Carl's Corner, Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/JrCWEDfcf4DF4DJE7) is another exception.
Another Texas example of a town with an apostrophe is the village of Bailey's Prairie (https://goo.gl/maps/XKHFrXHEfMMVPBrh9).

That speed limit sign above reminds me somewhat of this (https://goo.gl/maps/Rfr9LFwGFfRwUCdc6).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2023, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on July 26, 2023, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2023, 10:40:02 AM

Carl's Corner, Texas (https://goo.gl/maps/JrCWEDfcf4DF4DJE7) is another exception.
Another Texas example of a town with an apostrophe is the village of Bailey's Prairie (https://goo.gl/maps/XKHFrXHEfMMVPBrh9).

That speed limit sign above reminds me somewhat of this (https://goo.gl/maps/Rfr9LFwGFfRwUCdc6).

Bois D' Arc (https://goo.gl/maps/LivPJbBayBoNuWN27)
D'Hanis (https://goo.gl/maps/ZGmDarjnPLbb5HXo9)
O'Donnell (https://goo.gl/maps/z9bfVcefX3HLVJAY7)

Not possessive, but apostrophes just the same. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 26, 2023, 01:01:12 PM
and Coeur D'Alene ID
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2023, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: Big John on July 26, 2023, 01:01:12 PM
and Coeur D'Alene ID

True.  I was sticking to Texas for my examples.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on July 26, 2023, 02:23:49 PM
Apparently the general prohibition is on possessive 's apostrophes, as they don't like to have official place names that suggest possession or ownership. There is no such prohibition on apostrophes if they replace a missing letter (Grand Lake o' the Cherokees) or are otherwise part of a name (O'Fallon, MO).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on July 26, 2023, 02:27:34 PM
How does that justify the various "Fishs" places?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 26, 2023, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: US 89 on July 26, 2023, 02:23:49 PMApparently the general prohibition is on possessive 's apostrophes, as they don't like to have official place names that suggest possession or ownership. There is no such prohibition on apostrophes if they replace a missing letter (Grand Lake o' the Cherokees) or are otherwise part of a name (O'Fallon, MO).

I can sort of see that, but in that case, I'd rather they just get rid of the S in all cases where it would be possessive countrywide and have something like Mundy Corner or The Mundy Corner, like The Dalles, Oregon. I would say Corner of Mundy, but that would just be too awkward. Places like Stevens Pass would remain unchanged since it's not possessive there and is just named for/after people. Of course the more logical fix would be to just rid of the possessive S rule.

For some fun trivia:
Blewett Pass: Edward Blewett
Sherman Pass: William Tecumseh Sherman
Snoqualmie Pass: Snoqualmie people
Stevens Pass: John Frank Stevens
White Pass: Charles A. White

There are also Cayuse Pass, Chinook Pass, Disautel Pass, Loup Loup Pass, Manastash Ridge–as well as North and South Umtanum Ridges, both also along I-82–Rainy Pass, Satus Pass, Washington Pass, and Wauconda Pass, but I can't seem to find what or who they were named for/after.

EDIT: For clarity, I'm referring to passes only in Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on July 26, 2023, 02:57:46 PM
How can I forget Lake O' the Pines that is labeledLake O' Pines (https://goo.gl/maps/sJTqUWA3r1Zh74217) on this BBS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 27, 2023, 04:43:32 PM
Abnormal "NO OUTLET" sign in Harrisburg, PA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219146910064118&set=a.10218247474178783)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on July 27, 2023, 04:56:57 PM
^^ also a doghouse containing a right turn arrow should not be signed right turn signal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on July 29, 2023, 12:26:28 PM
Quote from: andrepoiy on July 25, 2023, 11:11:28 PM
Found on I-90 WB near Erie, PA.

(https://i.imgur.com/rs2ogIN.png)

https://goo.gl/maps/8kVaMf953Lm71Kzy8


The EVIL I-90 Pennsylvania 55 MPH "Urban" Zone...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on July 30, 2023, 08:09:16 PM
Odd signage in Kirklevington Park in Lexington, KY:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219142813321702&set=a.10219142981085896
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on July 31, 2023, 10:26:19 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50403619933/in/album-72157716195839548/
It looks like Cairo the Third.

It seems like both KY and TN like the old school state abbreviations over the two letter ones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 31, 2023, 07:28:57 PM
We got a new national park.  The sign says so.

(https://i.imgur.com/xWtQztH.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 31, 2023, 07:45:58 PM
I'm equally confused at how Cutler and Orosi are supposed to be on CA 198?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 31, 2023, 07:51:34 PM
This is the only exit on Interstate 82 that has a tabbed exit gore point sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Ufj4iLcWbB1faN5T8 And it's only on the eastbound side. The westbound side uses a standard exit gore point sign: https://goo.gl/maps/tF94jVuZANZ6rjZz7

The only other place I've seen tabbed exit signs like that in Washington is in the Seattle area along Interstate 5.

I also noticed this unique white sign in West Richland and Richland today on SR 224, heading eastbound:

West Richland: https://goo.gl/maps/3txoqRzv8YaaewnPA

Richland: https://goo.gl/maps/73EToUq26ZED1Mo79

Westbound has the sign, too, of course, I just wasn't driving westbound:

Richland: https://goo.gl/maps/ZybaB9n7Tk1fBjAf7

Technically also Richland before crossing the bridge into West Richland: https://goo.gl/maps/FPCEUjFGQ4UMTwTW6

I don't know why the one for westbound traffic on the Fallon Bridge is on the left side, but yeah.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bruce on July 31, 2023, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 31, 2023, 07:51:34 PM
This is the only exit on Interstate 82 that has a tabbed exit gore point sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Ufj4iLcWbB1faN5T8 And it's only on the eastbound side. The westbound side uses a standard exit gore point sign: https://goo.gl/maps/tF94jVuZANZ6rjZz7

The only other place I've seen tabbed exit signs like that in Washington is in the Seattle area along Interstate 5.

This is widely used by the WSDOT Southwest Division.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on July 31, 2023, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Bruce on July 31, 2023, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 31, 2023, 07:51:34 PM
This is the only exit on Interstate 82 that has a tabbed exit gore point sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Ufj4iLcWbB1faN5T8 And it's only on the eastbound side. The westbound side uses a standard exit gore point sign: https://goo.gl/maps/tF94jVuZANZ6rjZz7

The only other place I've seen tabbed exit signs like that in Washington is in the Seattle area along Interstate 5.

This is widely used by the WSDOT Southwest Division.

The rebel division of WSDOT. They love their tabbed exit numbers, be it a gore sign or overhead sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on July 31, 2023, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 31, 2023, 07:45:58 PMI'm equally confused at how Cutler and Orosi are supposed to be on CA 198?

This sign detail comes from a just-advertised contract (06-0X7004) to resurface the length of SR 63 in Visalia immediately south of the SR 63/SR 198 dogleg overlap.   The new sign is intended to replace one that references SR 63, Cutler, Orosi, and the National Parks (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3240058,-119.3138493,3a,15y,321.34h,88.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shDmny0BgJakgBN81rq1vQw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).

Personally, I think the existing sign is less confusing, though it can still be understood as referring to fictional "Cutler and Orosi National Parks" if seen out of context.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on July 31, 2023, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on July 31, 2023, 08:41:20 PMThe rebel division of WSDOT. They love their tabbed exit numbers, be it a gore sign or overhead sign.

It used to be like this at one point before it was replaced for whatever reason with the tabbed version: https://goo.gl/maps/8RXHiYTBnBgs8zvx8 Looking at the back of the sign on Google Maps, the tabbed version was installed in 2014.

Likewise for the westbound one, except it wasn't replaced with a tabbed version: https://goo.gl/maps/Cu9zcfpP7SV5PoYAA Looking at the back of the sign, the current one was installed in 2022.

I can't get a good enough angle and zoom to see when the older ones that were replaced were installed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 03:16:32 PM
Abnormal I-64 shield on a construction sign heading EB in Dunbar, WV:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219172500383860&set=a.10219172661987900

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401961665_599de6543b_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 02, 2023, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 03:16:32 PM
Abnormal I-64 shield on a construction sign heading EB in Dunbar, WV:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219172500383860&set=a.10219172661987900
These FB links never work for me and I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 03:28:36 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 02, 2023, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 03:16:32 PM
Abnormal I-64 shield on a construction sign heading EB in Dunbar, WV:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219172500383860&set=a.10219172661987900
These FB links never work for me and I have no idea why.

That is strange.  I know they work for others on here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 02, 2023, 08:05:16 PM
They work for me, true. But I would prefer they were just embedded directly into the page here. That requires uploading somewhere other than Facebook, but that shouldn't be a big deal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 09:48:32 PM
I did not realize I could just use the img function here directly from Facebook...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 03, 2023, 04:44:59 AM
I can see the photo, but I'm not 100% certain that everyone can.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2023, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 18, 2023, 08:05:10 AM
I-75's new Overpass Road exit doesn't have any cities listed either, but Overpass Road is a local road and they built the exit for the suburbs in between State Roads 52 and 54: https://goo.gl/maps/ZPqaeELXxzsracDV6.
The previous sign looks like it's reserved for a destination;
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.2617852,-82.3331549,3a,75y,67.63h,94.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s1MldBjdxdEtZJ9TiijvE6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on August 03, 2023, 10:21:54 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 09:48:32 PM
I did not realize I could just use the img function here directly from Facebook...

One of the [disadvantages] of being an early user of the Internet is that I still think of the "stuff you see on the Internet" in terms of packets, files and directories (ergo, the same way that FTP worked, but long before then).  Anywhoosit, if you "Inspect" any graphics on the Internet you can find the direct filename and post it under the /img function.

Here's what the one at the top left of the AARoads Forum screenpage actually looks like:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/Themes/Button_Copy/aards.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on August 03, 2023, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 02, 2023, 09:48:32 PM
I did not realize I could just use the img function here directly from Facebook...

It will work with any image URL (i.e. not the URL of a webpage containing that photo). The problem with some image hosting sites, including Facebook in my experience, is that image URLs on them will periodically change for no particular reason. So Dirt Roads's link might be visible right now, but give it a few months and it will probably break, even if that photo is still in the same place on Facebook with the same permission settings and everything. This is not an issue with sites like Flickr or Imgur, which have permanent image URLs as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on August 03, 2023, 10:28:41 AM
I've had a few .pdf and .tiff files display on my screen, even though they don't for anyone else.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 03, 2023, 12:20:19 PM
Plus some sites don't take kindly to hotlinking.  I'm not sure how common it is, but I know I used to have my site set to disable such for all domains except AARoads (only for that exception to sometimes stop working, so now I don't have anything configured except my web host's default and just link to the URl of the image).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 03, 2023, 02:37:50 PM
I always try to obtain a direct image URL for embedding, but sometimes it is difficult to impossible, as in these cases:

*  The payload image is hidden under one or more other images with 100% transparency, meaning that right-clicking and choosing "Copy Image Link" (or equivalent) copies the URL for the top image with 100% transparency rather than the payload.  (In these cases, obtaining the payload URL means using browser tools to inspect the code.)

*  The image is not retrieved through a HTTP GET request but rather comes to the browser when it executes JavaScript code and is stored internally as a blob (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_large_object).  "Copy Image Link" then returns not an URL, but rather an URL-like resource identifier (starting with a string like data:/// or blob:///) that is specific to the browser and is not shareable.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
Regarding this No Smoking sign on part of the building at the northbound I-75 rest area just south of Ocala, Florida;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg/640px-NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg)
Is this thing MUTCD-compliant? Because it looks like it could be a road sign.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on August 04, 2023, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
Regarding this No Smoking sign on part of the building at the northbound I-75 rest area just south of Ocala, Florida;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg/640px-NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg)
Is this thing MUTCD-compliant? Because it looks like it could be a road sign.

It's not a traffic control device, so it's not MUTCD-compliant. But it does look like someone at the DOT or Public Works sign shop created it, which isn't too uncommon for signs at non-DOT/DPW government buildings...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 04, 2023, 10:38:52 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 04, 2023, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
Regarding this No Smoking sign on part of the building at the northbound I-75 rest area just south of Ocala, Florida;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg/640px-NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg)
Is this thing MUTCD-compliant? Because it looks like it could be a road sign.

It's not a traffic control device, so it's not MUTCD-compliant. But it does look like someone at the DOT or Public Works sign shop created it, which isn't too uncommon for signs at non-DOT/DPW government buildings...

That's one of my guilty pleasures.  I love non-traffic signs that were obviously made by a DOT.  Of course, as you said, they are usually found at governmental buildings.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on August 05, 2023, 06:47:08 PM
PennDOT doing NJDOT-style signs for Jersey signs, though NJDOT doesn't do this anymore
(https://i.imgur.com/6EHKygP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZOxiioY.jpg)

These were the only signs like this I saw, but checking GSV from last year, it looks like the original 880s were super faded
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 06, 2023, 04:12:54 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/fZQKbjntTvHTTboeA
I think the way NJDOT fits the entire proper name into the guide sign is neat.  Always the crossing was abbreviated, but now it appears that NJDOT is eliminating abbreviations for the entire name.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 06, 2023, 08:05:31 PM
On US 322 WB/PA 153 NB at the Mount Zion "exit": https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219188904393950&set=a.10219189243802435

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401869839_3253ebe8c9_c.jpg)

DuBois, PA, tries it best Hampton Roads, VA, impersonation, but it is unique by using a gray unisign instead of a green one:  https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219188923394425&set=a.10219189243802435

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401986755_54744c0d50_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 07, 2023, 06:53:21 AM
For some odd reason, the eastbound Interstate 90 entrance ramp in Ellensburg on Canyon Road had two "Freeway Entrance" signs at one point. And I'm not talking about one on each side of the road, as that's normal. Although there are some that only use one, such as in Ellensburg here on Canyon Road for both westbound and eastbound. I'm talking about back-to-back.

See this 2011 capture: https://goo.gl/maps/ycCTUhwTJWbZxYXMA There are two of the signs on the same side of the road. The first one that should be there, and the second odd one father up that should not be there. It was later changed to this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/Ar4X7gAYXD4LgXQR7 Although I just realized looking at Google Maps, it's been lying on the ground since at least sometime in 2022: https://goo.gl/maps/h7g45TgF5DyfAK8G9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 07, 2023, 07:35:05 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/w3Sp5rgMuyYJ2fq6A
The Garden State Parkway shield should be on the NJ 17 overhead above. If they rearrange the sign, they can easily fit it in. However, the sign designers should have included that with NJDOT making sure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 07, 2023, 07:26:37 PM
There is a lot wrong with this sign on US 6 WB in Warren.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219188976195745&set=a.10219189243802435)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401958339_9aecd0da1e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 07, 2023, 09:02:59 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 24, 2023, 08:09:34 AM
Steffen's is pretty solid! I went there a few years ago on a road trip to North Carolina. It routed us up 17 to get there and I certainly agree about that bridge. Very pretty but also very narrow.
If it's as good as you say it is, maybe I'll go there someday.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LVtzjD2JUcCnygwUA
Here is something odd. NJ 17 is signed Newark for its control destination. The Garden State Parkway has no control ( at least here anyway), but the ensuing toll road serves Newark better as NJ 17 terminates in North Arlington before the City of Newark, but the GS Parkway not only serves it better, but enters the Newark City Limits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on August 08, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LVtzjD2JUcCnygwUA
Here is something odd. NJ 17 is signed Newark for its control destination. The Garden State Parkway has no control ( at least here anyway), but the ensuing toll road serves Newark better as NJ 17 terminates in North Arlington before the City of Newark, but the GS Parkway not only serves it better, but enters the Newark City Limits.

It's taking in the fact that people are most likely going to take rt 21 to Newark, going 17 -> 3 -> 21 cause after 3, 17 just becomes local roads.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 08, 2023, 08:30:59 AM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on August 08, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LVtzjD2JUcCnygwUA
Here is something odd. NJ 17 is signed Newark for its control destination. The Garden State Parkway has no control ( at least here anyway), but the ensuing toll road serves Newark better as NJ 17 terminates in North Arlington before the City of Newark, but the GS Parkway not only serves it better, but enters the Newark City Limits.

It's taking in the fact that people are most likely going to take rt 21 to Newark, going 17 -> 3 -> 21 cause after 3, 17 just becomes local roads.

You do get a great view of NJ 3 though from where NJ 17 SB turns left to head towards its southern end.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on August 08, 2023, 10:06:17 AM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on August 08, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LVtzjD2JUcCnygwUA
Here is something odd. NJ 17 is signed Newark for its control destination. The Garden State Parkway has no control ( at least here anyway), but the ensuing toll road serves Newark better as NJ 17 terminates in North Arlington before the City of Newark, but the GS Parkway not only serves it better, but enters the Newark City Limits.

It's taking in the fact that people are most likely going to take rt 21 to Newark, going 17 -> 3 -> 21 cause after 3, 17 just becomes local roads.
Oh, I thought this sign went back to the time NJDOT still thought they had a chance of extending Route 17 down to the turnpike or I-280.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on August 08, 2023, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LVtzjD2JUcCnygwUA
Here is something odd. NJ 17 is signed Newark for its control destination. The Garden State Parkway has no control ( at least here anyway), but the ensuing toll road serves Newark better as NJ 17 terminates in North Arlington before the City of Newark, but the GS Parkway not only serves it better, but enters the Newark City Limits.

To me the obvious choice should be Rutherford.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on August 08, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 12:00:13 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/LVtzjD2JUcCnygwUA
Here is something odd. NJ 17 is signed Newark for its control destination. The Garden State Parkway has no control ( at least here anyway), but the ensuing toll road serves Newark better as NJ 17 terminates in North Arlington before the City of Newark, but the GS Parkway not only serves it better, but enters the Newark City Limits.

It's taking in the fact that people are most likely going to take rt 21 to Newark, going 17 -> 3 -> 21 cause after 3, 17 just becomes local roads.

That's how it is now. Originally NJ 21 didn't go north of Belleville and being NJ 17 eventually defaults into Kearny Avenue that defaults into Frank Rogers Blvd ( Fourth Street then) which crosses the Jackson Street Bridge into Neark is how people went. The Garden State Parkway wasn't around so Newark for Route 17 was practical.

Now it's odd that over the years NJDOT didn't update signage to reflect the Garden State Parkway as the area's principal through route, although they did replace NB Suffern with Mahwah over the decades, but being the road has always connected to Route 21 with Route 3 ro Newark with Newark still in the general direction, no one thought that the Parkway could replace Route 17. 

Ideally Rutherford or Lyndhurst should be now the new SB control city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 09, 2023, 08:12:30 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52810263665/in/dateposted-public/
I was noticing the way the US 17 patch is placed. It's over the white border of the sign.

I recently posted this same photo in April pointing out the condition of the lettering, but now I'm noticing the patch was not cut properly to fit within the borders.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 09, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
^I do not understand why the US 17 patch was made way bigger than the other shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 09, 2023, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 09, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
^I do not understand why the US 17 patch was made way bigger than the other shields.

Is there another sign in the sequence with a really small US 17 shield?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 09, 2023, 04:42:39 PM
Quote from: machias on August 09, 2023, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 09, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
^I do not understand why the US 17 patch was made way bigger than the other shields.

Is there another sign in the sequence with a really small US 17 shield?

Quote from: machias on August 09, 2023, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 09, 2023, 09:15:01 AM
^I do not understand why the US 17 patch was made way bigger than the other shields.

Is there another sign in the sequence with a really small US 17 shield?

No, I could not find any other shields in that direction in my photos at all.  I do have normal shields farther west. (second is east of 16th St) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218528537485190&set=a.10218528634767622)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401994634_7cb71a90a1_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401994629_6ae738aabd_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 09, 2023, 07:35:07 PM
Time for one of these Blue Ridge Parkway spiral curve signs to be shared again:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53105934770_a420b3122d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oUMNe1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 09, 2023, 11:45:42 PM
I'm finally getting around to sorting out the photos from my northeast road trip last year.  What was that about laying out the text first and then choosing the sign dimensions?

(https://i.imgur.com/pkwPfEw.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 10, 2023, 11:13:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 09, 2023, 07:35:07 PM
Time for one of these Blue Ridge Parkway spiral curve signs to be shared again:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53105934770_a420b3122d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oUMNe1)

It because of the warning you will be mid curve and say, "I am glad I got the warning that the radius has changed for these two curves."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 10, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
^^ Actually a spiral is a continuous change of radius in a curve.  Only certain states employ spirals in their roadways, others employ discreet radius changes, such as in a loop ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ethanhopkin14 on August 10, 2023, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Big John on August 10, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
^^ Actually a spiral is a continuous change of radius in a curve.  Only certain states employ spirals in their roadways, others employ discreet radius changes, such as in a loop ramp.

Yes, I am aware what a spiral curve is. I have to solve for them quite often.  Judging by the pictural on the sign I just guestimated it was just two curves with two radii for the joke (and I am not talking about the reverse curve at the end, not to mention the pictural doesn't appear to be a spiral).  It was not meant to be an accurate portrayal of true mathematics. 

It was more that I found it very specific the sign would warn motorists of a spiral curve since I am sure 75% of the driving population doesn't even know what that means or could even tell the radius of the curve they are driving in is changing.  I guess it is a good warning that the curve gets sharper the more you are into it, but again, you have to know the definition of a spiral curve before you can be warned for it.

Yes, two curves back to back are technically a compound curve, but again, it was more of a joke than a technical essay. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 14, 2023, 10:05:25 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/WEUrnmry3TeFHofQ8
I still say printing top line words further away is the way to print pavement markings.

To me this reads:
BUMP
SPEED

Not as
SPEED
BUMP.

Yet DRIVE WAY is in correct form.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on August 14, 2023, 10:28:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 14, 2023, 10:05:25 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/WEUrnmry3TeFHofQ8
I still say printing top line words further away is the way to print pavement markings.

To me this reads:
BUMP
SPEED

Not as
SPEED
BUMP.

Yet DRIVE WAY is in correct form.

The speed of the road matters. Going 20 down this street is going to read different than going 70 down a highway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on August 15, 2023, 08:24:16 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 09, 2023, 11:45:42 PM
I'm finally getting around to sorting out the photos from my northeast road trip last year.  What was that about laying out the text first and then choosing the sign dimensions?

(https://i.imgur.com/pkwPfEw.jpg)


Good lord, looking at these signs is causing me physical pain.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 15, 2023, 09:06:54 PM
Washington State Route 203 in Duvall is so cool that it gets two milepost 14s.

Heading north: https://goo.gl/maps/NU7WVk3LZoMjQcPz6
Heading south: https://goo.gl/maps/A61uA13ow753MrWw9

I guess if you want to be technical, it's four mile marker 14s, but I'm going by posts. I don't know about other states outside Washington, Oregon, and Idaho, but here, our two-lane highways, like US 97, have the mileposts on one side of the road with the mile markers having whatever mile number on both sides rather than one post for each direction like on interstates (or interstate-like highways, such as parts of US 2 and US 97) since each direction is separated there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 16, 2023, 04:41:48 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52081350128
Ukiah’s mileage has different numbering font than SF and Rio Dell. I’m guessing the distance to there got amended after the sign was originally placed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 16, 2023, 05:44:42 AM
Can't tell if it was intentionally set up to be against the wall, but... Interstate 90 westbound milepost 50 in Washington: https://goo.gl/maps/bHFUBXUGYFQrAttY7

Looking back through all the captures, it hasn't really changed that much, so... maybe?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 17, 2023, 01:35:21 PM
Fixed. Thank you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 17, 2023, 05:57:05 PM
Quote from: Amaury on August 17, 2023, 01:35:21 PM
Fixed. Thank you.

No worries! Thanks for the quick fix too, technically there is no rule against being 'vague' but I know a lot of users appreciate it.

I deleted my post so as to not bring things too off-topic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 18, 2023, 07:55:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/uw3axuBurD3qnHgC6
It’s odd that they don’t list both directions of US 22, but they do for US 322.

Also this https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harrisburg,+PA/@40.2820276,-77.0452306,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x89c8c116b8079e97:0xbb6e42c8128d46d5!8m2!3d40.2731911!4d-76.8867008!16zL20vMGZ2eno?entry=ttu
Common though that left side guides put the direction first before the shield unlike the right side panels that post them after the shield. FDOT does that as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 18, 2023, 07:58:37 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 18, 2023, 07:55:46 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/uw3axuBurD3qnHgC6
It's odd that they don't list both directions of US 22, but they do for US 322.

The "WEST" Banner should be over US 322 only.  I am currently tracking sign replacements in this area so this may be changed soon.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on August 18, 2023, 08:26:59 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 03, 2023, 02:37:50 PM
I always try to obtain a direct image URL for embedding, but sometimes it is difficult to impossible, as in these cases:

*  The payload image is hidden under one or more other images with 100% transparency, meaning that right-clicking and choosing "Copy Image Link" (or equivalent) copies the URL for the top image with 100% transparency rather than the payload.  (In these cases, obtaining the payload URL means using browser tools to inspect the code.)

*  The image is not retrieved through a HTTP GET request but rather comes to the browser when it executes JavaScript code and is stored internally as a blob (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_large_object).  "Copy Image Link" then returns not an URL, but rather an URL-like resource identifier (starting with a string like data:/// or blob:///) that is specific to the browser and is not shareable.

In both of these cases, Firefox will allow you to obtain the correct image by bringing up the Page Info dialog (Ctrl+I) and going to the Media tab. All media embedded in the page can then be inspected in isolation to either obtain a URL or save the file to disk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 18, 2023, 04:54:50 PM
Saw this in Downtown Muncie, Indiana, earlier this week.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53126027815_08cee37e3e_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oWyMbP)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on August 18, 2023, 06:00:10 PM
Holy recycling, Batman.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 18, 2023, 06:32:17 PM
Inactive thread for this: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7203.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 19, 2023, 02:33:08 PM
While not wrong, on WA 20 eastbound before the junction with WA 153 southbound, this sign doesn't make sense to me: https://goo.gl/maps/68MLT8ChcMe53rKn9 Both ways take you to US 97, and, regardless of which way to take, you have access to both northbound and southbound US 97, so I don't know why that sign says northbound US 97 via WA 20 eastbound and southbound US 97 via WA 153 southbound. If it were me, I would probably just remove that sign and modify the sign farther up and have WA 153 South TO US 97 and WA 20 East TO US 97. Like what is done here in Quincy and other places: https://goo.gl/maps/nqRWptLBYbX9gvQs6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on August 19, 2023, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: Amaury on August 19, 2023, 02:33:08 PM
While not 100% wrong, on WA 20 eastbound before the junction with WA 153 southbound, this sign makes no sense: https://goo.gl/maps/68MLT8ChcMe53rKn9 Both ways take you to US 97, and, regardless of which way to take, you have access to both northbound and southbound US 97, so I don't know why that sign says northbound US 97 via WA 20 eastbound and southbound US 97 via WA 153 southbound. If it were me, I would probably just remove that sign and modify the sign farther up and have WA 153 South TO US 97 and WA 20 East TO US 97. Like what is done here in Quincy and other places: https://goo.gl/maps/nqRWptLBYbX9gvQs6

If you're using WA 20 to get to Wenatchee from Bellingham (for example), it does make perfect sense. It's really no different than this sign outside of George, WA, except for distance from the highway: https://goo.gl/maps/NMhKrUhnCSdNGsiX9 Both ways allow you to go east or west on I-90, but one is just a bit more direct than the other. In the case of US 97, taking WA 153 to go south is much shorter than WA 20, and vice versa heading north of WA 20 on US 97. The only situation where you might want to ignore the sign is if your destination is on US 97 between WA 20 and WA 153.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 19, 2023, 05:05:46 PM
Coincidentally, I actually brought up that example earlier in this thread here: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11045.msg2856870#msg2856870

For me personally, the one with I-90 via WA 281 is a little more problematic than the US 97 via WA 20 or 153 example I just provided earlier. Since interstates are controlled-access highways with a barrier or median dividing them, that sign makes it seem like there is only access to westbound I-90 by continuing straight on WA 281 or only access to eastbound I-90 by turning left and taking WA 281 Spur, which is not the case at all since both ways have entrance ramps for both directions.

There are cases where there are only entrance or exit ramps for one direction, but not the other (or both). For example, Exit 52 on I-90 on Snoqualmie Pass here in Washington. Exit 52 only exists for the eastbound side. There is no Exit 52 for the westbound side. Likewise, at that same place, there is a westbound entrance ramp in that same location, but there is no eastbound entrance ramp. If you want to get back on the freeway after taking Exit 52 on eastbound I-90 and continue east, you'll need to take WA 906 eastbound down to the Exit 53 area and take the eastbound entrance ramp there. Vice-versa, if you want to be in the Exit 52 area while going westbound on I-90, you'll need take Exit 53 from westbound I-90 and take WA 906 westbound up to that area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on August 19, 2023, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on July 26, 2023, 04:21:14 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on July 25, 2023, 11:09:54 PM
Quote from: Amaury on July 25, 2023, 11:02:07 PMI'm not familiar with the area, obviously, but is it also supposed to be Mundy's Corner? (The apostrophe.)

It is Mundys Corner.  The US Board of Geographical Names does not like apostrophes and permits very few exceptions (Martha's Vineyard is one of them).

Which is dumb. Theres no reason to omit apostrophes. Why was this apostrophe ban even implemented anyways?

Yes.  Just because the U.S. Board of Geographic Names is going to ignore the rules that the rest of the English-speaking world follows is no reason for me or anyone else to do so too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on August 19, 2023, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: Amaury on August 19, 2023, 05:05:46 PM
For me personally, the one with I-90 via WA 281 is a little more problematic than the US 97 via WA 20 or 153 example I just provided earlier. Since interstates are controlled-access highways with a barrier or median dividing them, that sign makes it seem like there is only access to westbound I-90 by continuing straight on WA 281 or only access to eastbound I-90 by turning left and taking WA 281 Spur, which is not the case at all since both ways have entrance ramps for both directions.

This situation is fairly common, and signs like this are very helpful to the motorist. There are plenty of circumstances where you have 2 ways to get to the same highway, and one way is shorter for the direction of travel you want to go. A guide sign (not regulatory) is perfect to show the driver that turning will take you one direction, while going straight will take you the other way.

Montana generally doesn't use the highway shield signage to convey this information, but rather control cities. This is a good example in Big Timber, MT: https://goo.gl/maps/pPEWNQetgY4WYuhV6 Either route will take you to Billings via I-90, and either route will take you to Livingston via I-90, but neither route is only Billings or only Livingston. This sign could just as easily be replaced with the sign in George, WA, and convey the same information.

I disagree that these signs imply "only", as they are guide signs that show the best route. Regardless whether the exit is full access or one direction, make this turn to go this direction. Pretty simple, straight forward. If anything, it makes it easier for the motorist to understand which way to go without worrying about if they can go both ways. I'd argue just "To I-90" or "To US 97" pointing both directions would make things more confusing for the motorist.

Quote from: Amaury on August 19, 2023, 05:05:46 PM

There are cases where there are only entrance or exit ramps for one direction, but not the other (or both). For example, Exit 52 on I-90 on Snoqualmie Pass here in Washington. Exit 52 only exists for the eastbound side. There is no Exit 52 for the westbound side. Likewise, at that same place, there is a westbound entrance ramp in that same location, but there is no eastbound entrance ramp. If you want to get back on the freeway after taking Exit 52 on eastbound I-90 and continue east, you'll need to take WA 906 eastbound down to the Exit 53 area and take the eastbound entrance ramp there. Vice-versa, if you want to be in the Exit 52 area while going westbound on I-90, you'll need take Exit 53 from westbound I-90 and take WA 906 westbound up to that area.

If anything, this refutes your argument. WSDOT could put up a sign in front of the Snoqualmie Pass rest area that has "To West I-90" pointing towards exit 52 and "To East I-90" pointing towards exit 53. It doesn't matter if exit 53 has both eastbound and westbound entrances to I-90, just that it's best to head west towards exit 52 to continue westbound and east towards exit 53 to continue eastbound. If you're heading westbound, and there's an exit that heads your direction, does it really matter to you as a motorist that the exit behind you which would add some distance (whether a mile or 30 miles) can also be used?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 07:57:36 AM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on August 19, 2023, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: Amaury on August 19, 2023, 02:33:08 PM
While not 100% wrong, on WA 20 eastbound before the junction with WA 153 southbound, this sign makes no sense: https://goo.gl/maps/68MLT8ChcMe53rKn9 Both ways take you to US 97, and, regardless of which way to take, you have access to both northbound and southbound US 97, so I don't know why that sign says northbound US 97 via WA 20 eastbound and southbound US 97 via WA 153 southbound. If it were me, I would probably just remove that sign and modify the sign farther up and have WA 153 South TO US 97 and WA 20 East TO US 97. Like what is done here in Quincy and other places: https://goo.gl/maps/nqRWptLBYbX9gvQs6

If you're using WA 20 to get to Wenatchee from Bellingham (for example), it does make perfect sense. It's really no different than this sign outside of George, WA, except for distance from the highway: https://goo.gl/maps/NMhKrUhnCSdNGsiX9 Both ways allow you to go east or west on I-90, but one is just a bit more direct than the other. In the case of US 97, taking WA 153 to go south is much shorter than WA 20, and vice versa heading north of WA 20 on US 97. The only situation where you might want to ignore the sign is if your destination is on US 97 between WA 20 and WA 153.
^This.  I don't see the issue.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on August 20, 2023, 02:06:14 PM
I can see one potential issue:  there is a population of drivers that will prefer driving additional miles in order to make the connection via an itinerary that is (1) simpler or (2) has a higher proportion of access-controlled roadway.  These considerations matter much less in deep rural locations such as the Washington examples cited, but they come into play at urban locations in California such as the north end of the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.9541016,-122.4918713,14.5z?entry=ttu), where Caltrans encourages drivers to connect from northbound US 101 to southbound I-580 using Sir Francis Drake Blvd. (a surface road with traffic lights) rather than the direct ramp between the two freeways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 09:57:03 PM
Might have been mentioned before somewhere, but this gem's in the Ontario Service Plaza on the Thruway:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53130797441_959c6a4f39_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oWZe2K)Ontario Travel Plaza (https://flic.kr/p/2oWZe2K)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 21, 2023, 05:11:12 PM
On US 15 NB in Dillsburg, PA.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401691016_1b44b7073d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 22, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/EeiqaWZnLo8AkS2RA
US 74 ALT is ignored here.

I can see it being a bannered route and to avoid sine salad on overheads, but it was once mainline US 74and it makes me wonder if NCDOT ignored US 74 then like Tennessee still does for that particular route.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on August 22, 2023, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: Rothman on August 20, 2023, 09:57:03 PM
Might have been mentioned before somewhere, but this gem's in the Ontario Service Plaza on the Thruway:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53130797441_959c6a4f39_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oWZe2K)Ontario Travel Plaza (https://flic.kr/p/2oWZe2K)

I feel like that I-56 sign used to be an I-787 sign modified with the magic of photoshop.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 22, 2023, 06:53:35 PM
Why 56?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on August 22, 2023, 07:52:03 PM
Why did they set the "56" in Futura Condensed? And do so on a 3-digit Interstate shield?
:confused:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on August 22, 2023, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on August 22, 2023, 07:52:03 PM
Why did they set the "56" in Futura Condensed? And do so on a 3-digit Interstate shield?
:confused:

Because they thought "well, fifty people will care, but a million others will not" and so they took the path of least resistance instead of downloading another font. Amazingly, they got the state name in there for a place that's all but deprecated it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on August 22, 2023, 08:10:17 PM
And it's hours away from US 9.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on August 22, 2023, 08:30:45 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 22, 2023, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on August 22, 2023, 07:52:03 PM
Why did they set the "56" in Futura Condensed? And do so on a 3-digit Interstate shield?
:confused:

Because they thought "well, fifty people will care, but a million others will not" and so they took the path of least resistance instead of downloading another font. Amazingly, they got the state name in there for a place that's all but deprecated it.
I'm with machias.  That "I-56" shield is probably a photoshoped I-787 shield.  In fact, I'll take it a step farther and say that it's probably a photoshoped version of this specific I-787 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6411928,-73.7517885,3a,15y,34.9h,95.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQP4CGUmfrZn3yVJGCkvuIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 22, 2023, 09:25:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on August 22, 2023, 08:30:45 PM
Quote from: formulanone on August 22, 2023, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on August 22, 2023, 07:52:03 PM
Why did they set the "56" in Futura Condensed? And do so on a 3-digit Interstate shield?
:confused:

Because they thought "well, fifty people will care, but a million others will not" and so they took the path of least resistance instead of downloading another font. Amazingly, they got the state name in there for a place that's all but deprecated it.
I'm with machias.  That "I-56" shield is probably a photoshoped I-787 shield.  In fact, I'll take it a step farther and say that it's probably a photoshoped version of this specific I-787 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6411928,-73.7517885,3a,15y,34.9h,95.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQP4CGUmfrZn3yVJGCkvuIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).

Well found, that lines up exactly. Including the faded effect on the right edge of the US-9 shield, and the slightly tilted directional banners.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 23, 2023, 05:57:17 PM
In Albany, no less. Someone probably just walked down the street and took a picture.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 24, 2023, 12:19:25 PM
I wonder if this SR 716 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6345707,-81.7887418,3a,75y,282.63h,84.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seWSuieboWVDq5Kr3ryAN3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) in Damascus, VA, is still there. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 24, 2023, 02:33:58 PM
Moses Lake, Washington, is so cool that you enter it twice on Interstate 90 westbound.

Just after milepost 180, just before Exit 179: https://goo.gl/maps/sJYM64JVZeYv4yCr7
After milepost 177, just before Exit 176: https://goo.gl/maps/CHm78Nyxx7ShmELw9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 24, 2023, 06:09:32 PM
Quote from: Amaury on August 24, 2023, 02:33:58 PM
Moses Lake, Washington, is so cool that you enter it twice on Interstate 90 westbound.

Just after milepost 180, just before Exit 179: https://goo.gl/maps/sJYM64JVZeYv4yCr7
After milepost 177, just before Exit 176: https://goo.gl/maps/CHm78Nyxx7ShmELw9

There is something very...unofficial...about that first example.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on August 24, 2023, 11:01:20 PM
Correction: It's Interstate 90 westbound. Westbound, not eastbound. My bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Streetman on August 25, 2023, 09:14:31 AM
These two signs don't belong on the same post.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53140993228_58e5f84760_m.jpg)
(Sometime after I took the picture the "bus stop" sign was removed.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on August 25, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Two US 29 shields on one sign in Lovingston, VA;

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLft5yR6/IMG-8438.jpg)

Yes, I am in the middle of my Georgia Trip, this picture was taken less than 10 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on August 25, 2023, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on August 25, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Two US 29 shields on one sign in Lovingston, VA;

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLft5yR6/IMG-8438.jpg)

Yes, I am in the middle of my Georgia Trip, this picture was taken less than 10 minutes ago.
When you really, really want to head south.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on August 25, 2023, 12:10:06 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 24, 2023, 12:19:25 PM
I wonder if this SR 716 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.6345707,-81.7887418,3a,75y,282.63h,84.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seWSuieboWVDq5Kr3ryAN3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) in Damascus, VA, is still there.

It was the last time I was through there and took notice of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 25, 2023, 01:26:57 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iuGu4SRkpZJHRb8n9
It's odd that they chose PARKWAY END for the Harlem River Drive instead of freeway or expressway. Though technically a Parkway under NY State Law, most people don't think of it as such.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on August 25, 2023, 04:47:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 25, 2023, 01:26:57 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iuGu4SRkpZJHRb8n9
It's odd that they chose PARKWAY END for the Harlem River Drive instead of freeway or expressway. Though technically a Parkway under NY State Law, most people don't think of it as such.
Doesn't "parkway ends" imply that trucks are allowed from that point onward?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 25, 2023, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on August 25, 2023, 04:47:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 25, 2023, 01:26:57 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iuGu4SRkpZJHRb8n9
It's odd that they chose PARKWAY END for the Harlem River Drive instead of freeway or expressway. Though technically a Parkway under NY State Law, most people don't think of it as such.
Doesn't "parkway ends" imply that trucks are allowed from that point onward?

Considering a truck driver wouldn't be seeing this sign as trucks are banned from before here, I would say no.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 25, 2023, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on August 25, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Two US 29 shields on one sign in Lovingston, VA;

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLft5yR6/IMG-8438.jpg)

Yes, I am in the middle of my Georgia Trip, this picture was taken less than 10 minutes ago.

If the Department of Redundancy Department had a definitive collection...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on August 26, 2023, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on August 25, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Two US 29 shields on one sign in Lovingston, VA;

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLft5yR6/IMG-8438.jpg)

Yes, I am in the middle of my Georgia Trip, this picture was taken less than 10 minutes ago.

PennDOT wannabes...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4520/23911003087_e955a8258e_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CqW9aV)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on August 26, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
I think having that happen on overheads/BGSes is not as unusual as reassurance shields, though. For example, San Diego has (or at least had, some have been replaced) a lot of 5 SOUTH 5 where one of the Interstate 5 shields was actually replacing a removed US 101.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on August 27, 2023, 11:27:53 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on August 26, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
I think having that happen on overheads/BGSes is not as unusual as reassurance shields, though. For example, San Diego has (or at least had, some have been replaced) a lot of 5 SOUTH 5 where one of the Interstate 5 shields was actually replacing a removed US 101.

As does/did Michigan -- especially in the SE part of the state.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on August 27, 2023, 11:59:08 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 27, 2023, 11:27:53 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on August 26, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
I think having that happen on overheads/BGSes is not as unusual as reassurance shields, though. For example, San Diego has (or at least had, some have been replaced) a lot of 5 SOUTH 5 where one of the Interstate 5 shields was actually replacing a removed US 101.

As does/did Michigan -- especially in the SE part of the state.

(Exists no more...)

(https://i.imgur.com/IDFty4B.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Streetman on August 27, 2023, 07:15:25 PM
Another case of signs that don't belong near each other:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53146648985_ccf7f3f4c4_m.jpg)
There is a "School Speed Limit 25" sign just around the bend - but the school closed five years ago.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 27, 2023, 07:22:54 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on August 27, 2023, 11:59:08 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on August 27, 2023, 11:27:53 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on August 26, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
I think having that happen on overheads/BGSes is not as unusual as reassurance shields, though. For example, San Diego has (or at least had, some have been replaced) a lot of 5 SOUTH 5 where one of the Interstate 5 shields was actually replacing a removed US 101.

As does/did Michigan -- especially in the SE part of the state.

(Exists no more...)

(https://i.imgur.com/IDFty4B.jpg)

Washington State did this sometimes too, but I believe it was a style decision, nothing to do with covering up shields.

(https://www.aaroads.com/wa/005/i-005_nb_exit_133_02.jpg)

(https://www.aaroads.com/wa/005/i-005_nb_exit_135_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on August 27, 2023, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: plain on August 25, 2023, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on August 25, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Two US 29 shields on one sign in Lovingston, VA;

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLft5yR6/IMG-8438.jpg)

Yes, I am in the middle of my Georgia Trip, this picture was taken less than 10 minutes ago.

If the Department of Redundancy Department had a definitive collection...

What's more interesting to me is how this assembly lost the one 'business' banner in 2008, then both arrow signs in 2022.   
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 27, 2023, 07:33:22 PM
^^ [Wisconsin] A unisign would have prevented it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on August 28, 2023, 07:55:08 AM
Odd for an interstate. Normal for a ramp though. The downward shield on the right.
https://goo.gl/maps/6hgye1Yexvnana97A

This is Local I-78 in Newark at the left exit for US 1& 9 which also is missing an exit number here with a LEFT yellow tab. Plus being the left exit is two lanes while through I-78 drops to one those are needed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 29, 2023, 09:26:49 PM
It is odd to see "NO RIGHT TURN TRUCKS" fully written out.  On US 13 BUS SB at NC 308 WB in Windsor.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10219276726709453&set=a.10219276900353794&type=3&notif_id=1693358209950462&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53402048589_ab42c011e4_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 29, 2023, 09:38:29 PM
^^ TRUCKS should on the first line or on a separate placard above the rest of the text.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 30, 2023, 12:51:33 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 29, 2023, 09:26:49 PM
It is odd to see "NO RIGHT TURN TRUCKS" fully written out.  On US 13 BUS SB at NC 308 WB in Windsor.

Only trucks that can go straight and left, then? :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on August 30, 2023, 07:00:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 30, 2023, 12:51:33 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 29, 2023, 09:26:49 PM
It is odd to see "NO RIGHT TURN TRUCKS" fully written out.  On US 13 BUS SB at NC 308 WB in Windsor.

Only trucks that can go straight and left, then? :D

There is a NC 308 TRUCK route ahead because of this.

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219276743469872&set=a.10219276900353794

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53401760186_65e99a0419_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on August 30, 2023, 07:12:20 AM
^^ Can anyone read the blue sign in the foreground at highway speed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on August 30, 2023, 01:54:13 PM
The speed limit at that location is 25, not much of a highway speed is going on there.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on August 30, 2023, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 30, 2023, 07:00:28 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on August 30, 2023, 12:51:33 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 29, 2023, 09:26:49 PM
It is odd to see "NO RIGHT TURN TRUCKS" fully written out.  On US 13 BUS SB at NC 308 WB in Windsor.

Only trucks that can go straight and left, then? :D

There is a NC 308 TRUCK route ahead because of this.

:-D I was afraid my joke may not be noticed.

The verbiage is bizarre to me, I would think "TRUCKS NO RIGHT TURN" would be better English.

As written, it sounds to be like it's banning "right turn[ing] trucks". Like, specifically those rare trucks capable of only turning right :D

Sorry, yes, I'm being a smart-ass.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on September 01, 2023, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on August 27, 2023, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: plain on August 25, 2023, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on August 25, 2023, 09:48:12 AM
Two US 29 shields on one sign in Lovingston, VA;

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLft5yR6/IMG-8438.jpg)

Yes, I am in the middle of my Georgia Trip, this picture was taken less than 10 minutes ago.

If the Department of Redundancy Department had a definitive collection...

What's more interesting to me is how this assembly lost the one 'business' banner in 2008, then both arrow signs in 2022.   

You can actually see the arrow assembly on the ground in the 2023 imagery, and the business banner on the cusp of falling off in the 2007 imagery. It looks like they were mounted with some flimsy hardware that's been slowly falling apart over the years.

(https://i.imgur.com/7GvP8wm.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/W78IzXO.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: johnandmegh on September 01, 2023, 05:14:23 PM
I don't know if this fits better elsewhere, but it's always bothered me...exiting I-270 SB onto Cemetery Rd / Fishinger Blvd, at the end of the ramp you are facing this sign:

https://goo.gl/maps/XfT5HNw6kLfGvbDE9

There are two problems here...for one, this exit is signed out on the highway as "Cemetery Rd / Fishinger Blvd", as the same physical road changes name when it crosses from the Columbus to Hilliard (suburb) city limits near this interchange, but this sign doesn't tell you which way is which.

Additionally, it's not at all obvious to any passer-by that because you are technically in the city of Hilliard, the "Downtown" referenced by the arrow is "Downtown Hilliard", not Downtown Columbus (the sign isn't even blue, as is the standard for Hilliard signs, in part to help distinguish from Columbus green signs).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 02, 2023, 12:42:08 PM
On Union Deposit Rd, where only Susquehanna is in Clearview.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219329832037053&set=a.10218247474178783

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53402133439_cc22c6d94c_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 04, 2023, 03:45:12 AM
Dunno if this exact one's been shared before, but I spotted this sign in Cullman, AL, last month:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827430728030879784/1148161547860971550/IMG_3045.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827430728030879784/1148161547860971550/IMG_3045.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on September 04, 2023, 04:13:51 AM
Crossposted from the Georgia thread:

Yesterday I noticed that the erroneous signage westbound on GA 316 approaching the Sugarloaf Parkway-Harbins Road exit has been corrected. I don't get over that way much-- the corrected signs are on Streetview from June 2023. Basically, the earlier signs tried to illustrate what lane to be in for the ramp split beyond the exit, but screwed up the lane assignments in doing so. Also, in posting about it on Facebook, I discovered that a substantial proportion of people read the earlier legend as "Sugarloaf Harbins/Parkway Road," thereby failing at its intended purpose.

First sign, first try (https://goo.gl/maps/uwZWRaXZmMuYm36v8). It indicates that only one lane continues on the mainline.

First sign, second try (https://goo.gl/maps/jo3bvwFnpZWeMrKi8). It's noncompliant with the MUTCD, but at least it's not flat-out wrong. I find this scheme to be intuitive and hence easy to understand, but there's a substantial proportion of the motoring public whose brains go tilt when they see a vertical separator line directly over an arrow, whether it's a down arrow like this or an up arrow on an APL.

Second sign, first try (https://goo.gl/maps/8WxRmq8DPmu8ttj16). The center arrow is a split arrow with the straight side greened out. What a masterpiece. :clap:

Second sign, second try (https://goo.gl/maps/pEGEspgkmh2qcdKq6). Now it's a normal APL. It's compliant, but there might be last-second lane changes by people who don't realize until the next overhead that they need to get out of the right lane to get on Sugarloaf. Too bad schemes like this (https://goo.gl/maps/ooVAeNybrHCEQ6xb6) are now considered hopelessly confusing.  :spin:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 04, 2023, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 04, 2023, 03:45:12 AM
Dunno if this exact one's been shared before, but I spotted this sign in Cullman, AL, last month:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827430728030879784/1148161547860971550/IMG_3045.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827430728030879784/1148161547860971550/IMG_3045.JPG)

Cullman County and city just seems to have their own version of the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 04, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
7th vs. Fourth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51322644347
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 04, 2023, 07:46:48 PM
Somewhat unique clearance sign on the Mill Creek Tunnel on Angeles Forest Highway:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53164877801_da6cae7130_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oZZTWa)IMG_6175 (https://flic.kr/p/2oZZTWa) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 04, 2023, 11:02:29 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 04, 2023, 07:46:48 PM
Somewhat unique clearance sign on the Mill Creek Tunnel on Angeles Forest Highway:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53164877801_da6cae7130_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oZZTWa)IMG_6175 (https://flic.kr/p/2oZZTWa) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Reminds me of the dual clearance signs on the Brattleboro bridges across the Connecticut:

70 VT-119
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LYD7dtepJ1rxkMvH6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 05, 2023, 03:16:44 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 04, 2023, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 04, 2023, 03:45:12 AM
Dunno if this exact one's been shared before, but I spotted this sign in Cullman, AL, last month:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827430728030879784/1148161547860971550/IMG_3045.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827430728030879784/1148161547860971550/IMG_3045.JPG)

Cullman County and city just seems to have their own version of the MUTCD.

GSV link since one was not provided: https://goo.gl/maps/fVivea1u4x4Y4sAt9

I don't see how this wouldn't be included in the MUTCD. It seems to be for traffic that might stop at the point where they see the red light, which is before reaching the stop line. So they put the sign up so traffic pulled up to the stop line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on September 05, 2023, 01:03:53 PM
The MUTCD does have a standard sign for this, R10-6.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/MUTCD_R10-6a.svg/226px-MUTCD_R10-6a.svg.png?20120922181805)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 05, 2023, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 04, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
7th vs. Fourth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51322644347

I think I figured it out. The Exit 1 addition probably forced engineers to go with 7th instead of Seventh.   Rather than replace the panel they just shortened the seventh to 7th to fit the exit tab in place.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 06, 2023, 12:13:40 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on August 04, 2023, 10:38:52 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 04, 2023, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on August 03, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
Regarding this No Smoking sign on part of the building at the northbound I-75 rest area just south of Ocala, Florida;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg/640px-NB_I-75_Marion_Co%2C_FL_Rest_Area%3B_Electrical_Storage.jpg)
Is this thing MUTCD-compliant? Because it looks like it could be a road sign.

It's not a traffic control device, so it's not MUTCD-compliant. But it does look like someone at the DOT or Public Works sign shop created it, which isn't too uncommon for signs at non-DOT/DPW government buildings...

That's one of my guilty pleasures.  I love non-traffic signs that were obviously made by a DOT.  Of course, as you said, they are usually found at governmental buildings.
You'll love this sign at Joe Austin Park in the Jamaica Hills section of Queens:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Joe_Austin_Park_Qns_td_%282018-05-21%29_09_-_Field_Closed.jpg/640px-Joe_Austin_Park_Qns_td_%282018-05-21%29_09_-_Field_Closed.jpg)
It looks like a somewhat MUTCD-compliant Road Closed series sign.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 07, 2023, 06:07:12 AM
I noticed a sign down due to the recent Gray Fire in Spokane County, Washington–the last, and I believe final, update had it at 93% containment–so I looked at Google Maps to see what sign it was, and it was this sign: https://goo.gl/maps/RnkJ9ouwiNxvstxi8 First time I've seen a sign like this. Mom said it refers to, for example, semi drivers parking on entrance ramps to sleep, which is common in Kittitas, Washington (I-90 Exit 115), though there's no sign of that nature there.

The sign is at the I-90 and SR 902 interchange at SR 902's western terminus (I-90 Exit 264) in Washington. Specifically, it's on the eastbound I-90 entrance ramp.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on September 07, 2023, 03:11:47 PM
In other nudes...,  er NEWS:  https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/someone-installed-a-nude-beach-sign-at-chicago-beach-alderwoman-says?fbclid=IwAR1GmxcGi0wxFGkpK_tZbsOq-didClQizhoCg8Lx5KAccxP7Q9yZGWRLjh0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on September 07, 2023, 03:23:08 PM
It's become fairly common in California for temporary construction signs to use an upside-down Interstate shield outline for a California spade outline.

But this is the first time I've seen it on a permanent green sign.  Note that neither highway actually reaches this point, they might both be marked with "TO" added to be more strictly correct - but this is a local sign, not Caltrans.

https://goo.gl/maps/N8pSzKcHCB1wSed46

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 07, 2023, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: GaryA on September 07, 2023, 03:23:08 PM
It's become fairly common in California for temporary construction signs to use an upside-down Interstate shield outline for a California spade outline.

But this is the first time I've seen it on a permanent green sign.  Note that neither highway actually reaches this point, they might both be marked with "TO" added to be more strictly correct - but this is a local sign, not Caltrans.

https://goo.gl/maps/N8pSzKcHCB1wSed46

District 8 says to hold its beer.

https://goo.gl/maps/sRZNgHXWXYvP1kHo6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 07, 2023, 09:42:59 PM
Speaking of Caltrans spec construction signs, there are several for sale on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?sid=javau-788&_pgn=1&isRefine=true&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l49496

Not quite as nice as the previous generation Pumpkin Spice Spades:

https://flic.kr/p/VCa3Wo
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 09, 2023, 02:51:33 AM
This is an unusual variant. Spotted this on Jordan Road in Ryland, AL, earlier this month.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on September 09, 2023, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 09, 2023, 02:51:33 AM
This is an unusual variant. Spotted this on Jordan Road in Ryland, AL, earlier this month.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG)

Never seen one, but this type of sign makes a lot of sense.  However, it looks like the sign is completely inverted.  Not only should the arrow be a right-then-left S-curve (instead of left-then-right), but the displayed tracks ended up at the wrong angle as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 09, 2023, 02:49:50 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 09, 2023, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 09, 2023, 02:51:33 AM
This is an unusual variant. Spotted this on Jordan Road in Ryland, AL, earlier this month.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG)

Never seen one, but this type of sign makes a lot of sense.  However, it looks like the sign is completely inverted.  Not only should the arrow be a right-then-left S-curve (instead of left-then-right), but the displayed tracks ended up at the wrong angle as well.

Just north of the crossing is a reverse curve (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7740431,-86.4873972,230m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) that I believe the sign was placed to warn for, but that doesn't go across the tracks either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 09:09:20 AM
Four lines of text plus (rather undersized) shields and cardinal directions is a bit much, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/GBaW68B.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 10, 2023, 09:32:10 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 09:09:20 AM
Four lines of text plus (rather undersized) shields and cardinal directions is a bit much, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/GBaW68B.jpg)

Pea-Dun Road, anyone?

...also isn't one effectively in Atlanta by the point?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 10, 2023, 10:11:47 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 10, 2023, 09:32:10 AM
Pea-Dun Road, anyone?
Goes well with Cumming.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: formulanone on September 10, 2023, 09:32:10 AMPea-Dun Road, anyone?

Uh, no.  :-D

Quote from: formulanone...also isn't one effectively in Atlanta by the point?

Yes, but AFAIK central cities are pretty well always posted as destinations for radial freeways where they're intersected by beltways.

That said, per the original signage plan, the control cities were omitted, being placed on supplemental signage instead. The authorities thought this out, then changed their thinking.

I'd be in favor of doing away with the dead space between the text and the arrows. And, in a better world, GDOT would move US 19 onto GA 400 inside 285 and thereby remove the need for cardinal directions here. I can dream, can't I?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on September 10, 2023, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 09:09:20 AM
Four lines of text plus (rather undersized) shields and cardinal directions is a bit much, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/GBaW68B.jpg)

I have never seen an exit sign with NORTH/SOUTH for the route, is this normal anywhere?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 10, 2023, 10:36:03 AM
I have never seen an exit sign with NORTH/SOUTH for the route, is this normal anywhere?

No. It's because US 19 is concurrent with GA 400 outside 285 but not inside. Instead, it jumps back to the legacy road to avoid a tollbooth that was removed years ago. In theory, cardinal directions shouldn't be required for 400, but apparently some people assumed that the NORTH pertained to both 19 and 400, so they did this as a kludge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 10, 2023, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 09:09:20 AM
Four lines of text plus (rather undersized) shields and cardinal directions is a bit much, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/GBaW68B.jpg)

Seems like the shields could have gone to the left of the destinations, would have quite dramatically reduced the height of the sign.

Also, you guys really need to cut down on the hyphenated street names. You're your own worst enemy with these signs!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on September 10, 2023, 08:44:33 PM
They could've just left Peachtree-Dunwoody Rd off.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: lstone19 on September 10, 2023, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 10, 2023, 05:51:53 PM
Also, you guys really need to cut down on the hyphenated street names. You're your own worst enemy with these signs!

It's Atlanta. It's almost law that Peachtree has to be part of every street name.  :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 11, 2023, 08:42:00 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 09, 2023, 02:51:33 AM
This is an unusual variant. Spotted this on Jordan Road in Ryland, AL, earlier this month.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG?width=613&height=460) (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944140000704995348/1149958748815773746/IMG_4564.JPG)
I could say that Hernando CR 572 needs something similar on Powell Road at the crossing of the CSX Brooksville Subdivision, but I'd much prefer that the Hernando County DPW realign the road with a bridge over the tracks, with or without a grant from FDOT.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on September 11, 2023, 03:49:51 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on September 10, 2023, 10:36:03 AM
Quote from: Tom958 on September 10, 2023, 09:09:20 AM
Four lines of text plus (rather undersized) shields and cardinal directions is a bit much, IMO.

(https://i.imgur.com/GBaW68B.jpg)

I have never seen an exit sign with NORTH/SOUTH for the route, is this normal anywhere?

I-70 and I-81 in Maryland. "I-81 North & South Harrisburg/Roanoke" is signed on I-70, and I believe "I-70 East & West" is also signed along with the control cites, which I think are Hancock and Frederick.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 11, 2023, 04:36:37 PM
You are correct HB.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10218528270038504&set=a.10218528311919551)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53402179159_1d6d1d3156_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 13, 2023, 02:36:36 AM
This sign in Washington on Interstate 5 southbound just before Exit 136: https://goo.gl/maps/eGRSnjft3hfLoabx9 Notice the no shield, just text.

I noticed it today. It looks like it was very recently repaired, as it's not there on the latest capture from March 2023: https://goo.gl/maps/2osU744igfB1Cmse7 Hence why I'm linking to a capture from November 2018. An October 2022 capture shows it leaning against an electrical box: https://goo.gl/maps/EdTRSXhZrWKFhfci9 And an August 2019 capture shows it on the ground: https://goo.gl/maps/3oYnLmAxLFT8iymT7

Likewise here with US 101 as text instead of a shield. Farther down on Interstate 5 southbound, just past Exit 116: https://goo.gl/maps/aJ4n5yGaxf9mfsLT6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 13, 2023, 04:32:35 AM
Quote from: Amaury on September 13, 2023, 02:36:36 AM
This sign in Washington on Interstate 5 southbound just before Exit 136: https://goo.gl/maps/eGRSnjft3hfLoabx9 Notice the no shield, just text.

I noticed it today. It looks like it was very recently repaired, as it's not there on the latest capture from March 2023: https://goo.gl/maps/2osU744igfB1Cmse7 Hence why I'm linking to a capture from November 2018. An October 2022 capture shows it leaning against an electrical box: https://goo.gl/maps/EdTRSXhZrWKFhfci9 And an August 2019 capture shows it on the ground: https://goo.gl/maps/3oYnLmAxLFT8iymT7

Likewise here with US 101 as text instead of a shield. Farther down on Interstate 5 southbound, just past Exit 116: https://goo.gl/maps/aJ4n5yGaxf9mfsLT6

On the I-5 collector/distributor roadway from WA-16/S 38th St, also in Tacoma, there is another non-shield textual sign, reading simply "705":

https://goo.gl/maps/efCPYjpJ3cYzNs127
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 13, 2023, 04:33:26 AM
Yeah, I think I've brought that one up before.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on September 13, 2023, 05:58:19 AM
Here's a sign that I captured yesterday on the N-340 near Tarifa: an intersection warning sign with text above (BEWARE) and below (INTERSECTION). The biggest problem I see is that the sign is still a 36" square, leaving the actual warning sign to be half as big as it should be.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939201367409557564/1151455677689106553/IMG_20230913_113753.jpg)

What I think should have been made instead, to have the warning sign pictogram the same size but still emphasize the risk:
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939201367409557564/1151455677991108669/IMG_20230913_115234.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 13, 2023, 09:39:56 AM
Quote from: Shedingtonian on September 13, 2023, 05:58:19 AM
Here's a sign that I captured yesterday on the N-340 near Tarifa: an intersection warning sign with text above (BEWARE) and below (INTERSECTION). The biggest problem I see is that the sign is still a 36" square, leaving the actual warning sign to be half as big as it should be.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939201367409557564/1151455677689106553/IMG_20230913_113753.jpg)


The differences between peninsular Spanish and Mexican Spanish are interesting.  On this side of the ocean, that sign would say "ENTRONQUE" instead of "INTERSECCIÃ"N".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on September 13, 2023, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: kphoger on September 13, 2023, 09:39:56 AM
Quote from: Shedingtonian on September 13, 2023, 05:58:19 AM
Here's a sign that I captured yesterday on the N-340 near Tarifa: an intersection warning sign with text above (BEWARE) and below (INTERSECTION). The biggest problem I see is that the sign is still a 36" square, leaving the actual warning sign to be half as big as it should be.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939201367409557564/1151455677689106553/IMG_20230913_113753.jpg)


The differences between peninsular Spanish and Mexican Spanish are interesting.  On this side of the ocean, that sign would say "ENTRONQUE" instead of "INTERSECCIÃ"N".

Maybe in Mexico, but farther south it's interseccion
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 13, 2023, 12:10:40 PM
This sign also does not use the correct typeface (Carretera Convencional) for the legend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 13, 2023, 01:09:03 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5747716,-81.7475716,3a,26.8y,2.8h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDFMaOg1c1vR3JKiweJWHyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) while looking at US 27 in FL in Travel Mapping.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on September 13, 2023, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 13, 2023, 12:10:40 PM
This sign also does not use the correct typeface (Carretera Convencional) for the legend.
You're right, it's Helvetica Narrow Bold. We really should have a narrower typeface, and the Caracteres typefaces were just that. That's why I use Caracteres L3 in some instances in my custom Spanish signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 13, 2023, 07:36:44 PM
This probably isn't the proper venue, but I'll post it here, anyway, since this thread is more active.

So, there are a few downed signs I haven't posted in my thread (yet), but on I-90 westbound in Washington, before milepost 85, this sign needs repairs: https://goo.gl/maps/GNQwZCmx42Q8ziZb6 The sign is/was lying on the ground with the other post still attached to it. I drove by there yesterday on a drive to Chehalis and the sign appears to no longer be there, but on the one post that is still standing that it itself needs to be replaced–or maybe the metal part that's partially off can be repaired–I noticed a little piece of paper or whatever attached to it now that says LOCATE on it. I'm going to guess that DOT picked up the sign, but what is this LOCATE thing about? I would guess it's something for DOT to locate the sign, but that's obvious, and the obvious answer isn't always the correct answer, so maybe it means something else.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wa3Bw2G.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on September 13, 2023, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 13, 2023, 01:09:03 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5747716,-81.7475716,3a,26.8y,2.8h,85.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDFMaOg1c1vR3JKiweJWHyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) while looking at US 27 in FL in Travel Mapping.

Not sure why they just didn't call it County Road 50A or 50B, like most former alignments.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 14, 2023, 02:28:55 PM
I wanted a photo of this sign on Tower Hill Road in Farmingville, New York:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.845086,-73.0307165,3a,75y,268.33h,91.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKs9nmQmQUp5T-_UwRwXuEA!2e0!5s20120401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&entry=ttu
Now I find it was replaced by a standard warning diamond with a supplemental advisory speed sign beneath it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 15, 2023, 09:06:47 AM
It is odd to have a fraction on one of these distance signs.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219386169205447&set=a.10219386267847913)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53400948647_2072ebf9ca_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 15, 2023, 10:13:12 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 15, 2023, 09:06:47 AM
It is odd to have a fraction on one of these distance signs.

Agreed.  But it's useful.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 16, 2023, 11:10:21 AM
Aw, man! I'm doing a little more FL 145 research to see if I can or should add more details to the new infobox, and instead of a standard bi-directional arrow warning sign at the south end of the intersection with Madison CR 591, you've got these things (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4727115,-83.4055898,3a,75y,182.84h,93.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sly-5anijmQYVs0AaviTuVw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu).

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 16, 2023, 02:58:18 PM
I am unsure what the reasoning is for these signs along US 219 south of Grampian, PA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219387008306424&set=a.10219387161270248

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53402799225_99f7ec86f8_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 16, 2023, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 16, 2023, 02:58:18 PM
I am unsure what the reasoning is for these signs along US 219 south of Grampian, PA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219387008306424&set=a.10219387161270248

(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/377692140_10219387007946415_1398461956561461543_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=813123&_nc_ohc=sMXlsVxI3fkAX-3YrD5&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfCfK0l1IGmlTXBP00bpce2G8Vkk5KJBqhd0Msqk9eA_Og&oe=650B95A8)
Erosion?  Unstable ground under the shoulder?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 16, 2023, 06:38:17 PM
Not a lot of these giant wrong way signs in Washington. Interstate 90 eastbound Exit 52 ramp: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dfvr5r1NBqrKJaZw9 I can't tell if the one on the left was intentionally covered for some reason or if it's just faded.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 16, 2023, 06:49:36 PM
Very old MA 8 sign on Middle Road in Clarksburg, MA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53192320020_ef2d97265b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p3qxxS)MassMoCA 24 - Old MA 8 (https://flic.kr/p/2p3qxxS)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on September 17, 2023, 02:54:34 AM
Quote from: Amaury on September 13, 2023, 07:36:44 PM
...I noticed a little piece of paper or whatever attached to it now that says LOCATE on it. I'm going to guess that DOT picked up the sign, but what is this LOCATE thing about? I would guess it's something for DOT to locate the sign, but that's obvious, and the obvious answer isn't always the correct answer, so maybe it means something else.
That would be for utility locates (the "call before you dig" system). Normally you'll see "LOCATE" (or just "LOC") painted on the ground, but I guess a sign like that works too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on September 17, 2023, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 16, 2023, 06:49:36 PM
Very old MA 8 sign on Middle Road in Clarksburg, MA:

The arrows are even more impressive than the shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 17, 2023, 06:23:29 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on September 16, 2023, 11:10:21 AM
Aw, man! I'm doing a little more FL 145 research to see if I can or should add more details to the new infobox, and instead of a standard bi-directional arrow warning sign at the south end of the intersection with Madison CR 591, you've got these things (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4727115,-83.4055898,3a,75y,182.84h,93.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sly-5anijmQYVs0AaviTuVw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu).

Reminds me of what Limestone County, AL, likes/liked to do (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6714769,-86.8789055,3a,15y,268.41h,84.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGZWSzQzZyD-5oO-E_ivA7Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu).

Quote from: Amaury on September 16, 2023, 06:38:17 PM
Not a lot of these giant wrong way signs in Washington. Interstate 90 eastbound Exit 52 ramp: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dfvr5r1NBqrKJaZw9 I can't tell if the one on the left was intentionally covered for some reason or if it's just faded.

Looks faded to me. Zooming in on it, you can just about make-out the letters, and spot a bit of the original red at the top edge (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.4265837,-121.4165569,3a,15y,286.29h,109.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSmqNbbmQhqaIATSl1B7BPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). 2019 imagery shows the letters on it a bit better. (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.4266108,-121.4166464,3a,15y,281.26h,128.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swa8mktwcQ0vgtDLRwYBZAQ!2e0!5s20190701T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) It seems that, for whatever reason, the left-hand one wasn't replaced when the right-hand one was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 17, 2023, 09:21:38 PM
An interesting one near me this month:  Covering the cardinal directions and not the control cities on a sign for closed ramps:

(https://i.imgur.com/1BN3XCM.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on September 18, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 17, 2023, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 16, 2023, 06:49:36 PM
Very old MA 8 sign on Middle Road in Clarksburg, MA:

The arrows are even more impressive than the shield.

Clarksburg is so out of the way (far NW corner of Mass.) that some folks in MassDOT may not know it exists. Its roadgeek claim to fame is the Famous Hairpin Turn on MA 2 -- the turn itself is in Clarksburg but both approaches are in North Adams, which leads to this situation where you pass the same town line twice (click yourself around the curve to see what I mean):

https://maps.app.goo.gl/qJCRJ3k3Wefpp4bq8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 18, 2023, 10:22:17 AM
Is this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RptqceLbKddk7oaC7) regulatory or something?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 18, 2023, 11:01:04 AM
Quote from: DRMan on September 18, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 17, 2023, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 16, 2023, 06:49:36 PM
Very old MA 8 sign on Middle Road in Clarksburg, MA:

The arrows are even more impressive than the shield.

Clarksburg is so out of the way (far NW corner of Mass.) that some folks in MassDOT may not know it exists. Its roadgeek claim to fame is the Famous Hairpin Turn on MA 2 -- the turn itself is in Clarksburg but both approaches are in North Adams, which leads to this situation where you pass the same town line twice (click yourself around the curve to see what I mean):

https://maps.app.goo.gl/qJCRJ3k3Wefpp4bq8
Well, yeah...I mean, I took the photo and was there...in Clarksburg.

It's also unfortunate the town line sign at the hairpin curve is being obscured by overgrowth.  Used to hang out up there with friends when I was in high school and we were bored on long weekend nights...

I was also taken aback by Clarksburg State Park charging $20 for an entrance fee for out-of-staters.  I guess they really want to keep that pond available for locals now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on September 18, 2023, 01:47:49 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2023, 10:22:17 AM
Is this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RptqceLbKddk7oaC7) regulatory or something?

Not sure. It looks as if it was placed there at the behest of environmental/conservation minded folks who want to inform the public about the presence of the basin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Ted$8roadFan on September 18, 2023, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: DRMan on September 18, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on September 17, 2023, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 16, 2023, 06:49:36 PM
Very old MA 8 sign on Middle Road in Clarksburg, MA:

The arrows are even more impressive than the shield.

Love the sign and the arrows. Hope someone collects it if/when they are replaced.

Clarksburg is so out of the way (far NW corner of Mass.) that some folks in MassDOT may not know it exists. Its roadgeek claim to fame is the Famous Hairpin Turn on MA 2 -- the turn itself is in Clarksburg but both approaches are in North Adams, which leads to this situation where you pass the same town line twice (click yourself around the curve to see what I mean):

https://maps.app.goo.gl/qJCRJ3k3Wefpp4bq8

I'm sure someone in MassDOT knows it exists, at least on paper. They may not have actually visited, though. I love the hairpin turn, especially during foliage season. Are the views at the Golden Eagle better than the Trail Overlook?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 18, 2023, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 18, 2023, 01:47:49 PM

Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2023, 10:22:17 AM
Is this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RptqceLbKddk7oaC7) regulatory or something?

Not sure. It looks as if it was placed there at the behest of environmental/conservation minded folks who want to inform the public about the presence of the basin.

It's a black-on-white rectangle, therefore I must assume that I'm required by law to do something for the entire 13 square-miles.  But just what, exactly, I still don't know.

FWIW, there are matching signs on a nearby intersecting road (https://maps.app.goo.gl/KfJTUMNqa94NKGMA6), with a different square-mileage shown.  And yet another one nearby (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JHTbsXYRGxspRJ7F8) with yet another different square-mileage shown.

It's possible that it really is regulatory, and that it's referring to some city code about the drainage area.  For example, a different drainage canal near me has a bunch of NO TRESPASSING (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Eo4hk4gDpznrRJXR6) signs, and this faded one (https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDRbeZL3NW6ZgMMA) nearby referred at some point to a local ordinance.  I just really don't know.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 18, 2023, 03:58:08 PM
Odd spacing between the numbers in this exit gore point for Exit 25 in both directions on Interstate 90 in Washington:

Westbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/EPa8mUbTG942e8Rx5
Eastbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/WLQ8pVFVeCP31b5A8

Additionally, at the same location, for the westbound entrance ramp, there used to be an exit ramp off of that entrance ramp that just looped back to Snoqualmie Parkway, which is weird, because you would have just gotten there by just taking Exit 25, so I don't know why they had that: https://maps.app.goo.gl/NvVAQ52fjhanFtH48

It's still there, but is not officially used, with the guide sign and everything taken down: https://maps.app.goo.gl/mqCs4Y89G3Sr9cFP7 And in 2022, it was barricaded: https://maps.app.goo.gl/gRPJzzgmzefuXYzN7

Here it is on the Snoqualmie Parkway end when it was active: https://maps.app.goo.gl/bwEgYsasTV2CCK3R9 And currently: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Gg8XLLvk1v8tYpH96 It also used to be barricaded, as seen by the 2021 and 2022 captures: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KAZFvhAEicYM9TFb7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 18, 2023, 04:29:10 PM
^^ Wisconsin is also known for putting wide spaces between the digits on gore signs and exit tabs on some exits.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 18, 2023, 05:10:10 PM
Not unique to Kansans, but unique and odd to the rest of the world.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53197503648/in/dateposted-public/
The way the two routes are signed at onramp with a shield for the US route and a guide for the interstate.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on September 18, 2023, 09:30:11 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2023, 10:22:17 AM
Is this (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RptqceLbKddk7oaC7) regulatory or something?

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on September 18, 2023, 01:47:49 PM
Not sure. It looks as if it was placed there at the behest of environmental/conservation minded folks who want to inform the public about the presence of the basin.

Quote from: kphoger on September 18, 2023, 02:16:07 PM
It's a black-on-white rectangle, therefore I must assume that I'm required by law to do something for the entire 13 square-miles.  But just what, exactly, I still don't know.

FWIW, there are matching signs on a nearby intersecting road (https://maps.app.goo.gl/KfJTUMNqa94NKGMA6), with a different square-mileage shown.  And yet another one nearby (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JHTbsXYRGxspRJ7F8) with yet another different square-mileage shown.

It's possible that it really is regulatory, and that it's referring to some city code about the drainage area.  For example, a different drainage canal near me has a bunch of NO TRESPASSING (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Eo4hk4gDpznrRJXR6) signs, and this faded one (https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDRbeZL3NW6ZgMMA) nearby referred at some point to a local ordinance.  I just really don't know.

It looks like signage for an EPA-funded water-quality repair project for the Lower Arkansas River basin.  Each of the designated repair properties are flagged according to size and the runoff (or in the cases you are looking at, lack of runoff) calculated based on the distance (and elevation change) with respect to each tributary of the Lower Arkansas within the jurisdiction (in this case, Gypsum Creek within Sedgwick County).  You can find more information about the project here. (https://kswraps.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/lowerark_plansummary_0.pdf)  (The report is sloppy and requires lookup for a bunch of EPA and USGS acronyms).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 19, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 18, 2023, 09:30:11 PM
It looks like signage for an EPA-funded water-quality repair project

Which leaves the question:  Why is there road signage for an EPA-funded water-quality repair project?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: johnandmegh on September 19, 2023, 11:37:14 AM
I assume it's an awareness thing - e.g. "the stuff you dump on the ground here will end up there" - similar to what was mentioned on this EPA page:

https://www.epa.gov/archive/epa/newsreleases/new-watershed-signs-remind-everyone-protect-great-lakes.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on September 19, 2023, 08:15:48 PM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 18, 2023, 09:30:11 PM
It looks like signage for an EPA-funded water-quality repair project

Quote from: kphoger on September 19, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
Which leaves the question:  Why is there road signage for an EPA-funded water-quality repair project?

My guess is that an appropriate agency (say Sedgwick County Conservation District) was able to get the EPA project to fund the watershed signage, and instead of coordinating that signage with other districts feeding the Lower Arkansas watershed, they simply decided to post the site-specific information related to the particular stream (in this case, the runoff area related to Gypsum Creek).  I still can't figure out what type of region that the different area calculations refer to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 19, 2023, 10:05:49 PM
Am I really to assume that black-on-white signage is always regulatory?

In British Columbia, black-on-white signage is used for those signs welcoming you into cities:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53199892439_b50507d409_o.png)
Entering City of Delta, BC (https://flic.kr/p/2p46myP) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 19, 2023, 10:11:11 PM
^^ White is allowed for street blades.  Massachusetts city limit signs are a decorative black on white.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on September 19, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
A railroad crossing in Shelbyville, IL has some of the final inverted number of tracks signs left:
Southbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSonsknkVCq3LjJi6).
Northbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/7qag7ncVEsQkSWRH8)

The nearby crossing on Vine Street also had them (https://maps.app.goo.gl/onfTVvAR9bL1tUJZA).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2023, 11:44:11 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 19, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
A railroad crossing in Shelbyville, IL has some of the final inverted number of tracks signs left:
Southbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSonsknkVCq3LjJi6).
Northbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/7qag7ncVEsQkSWRH8)

The nearby crossing on Vine Street also had them (https://maps.app.goo.gl/onfTVvAR9bL1tUJZA).
Looks like those were originally signalized crossings.

IIRC, the CSX Memphis Subdivision has a pair in Humboldt, TN.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on September 20, 2023, 01:32:37 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 19, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
A railroad crossing in Shelbyville, IL has some of the final inverted number of tracks signs left:
Southbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSonsknkVCq3LjJi6).
Northbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/7qag7ncVEsQkSWRH8)

The nearby crossing on Vine Street also had them (https://maps.app.goo.gl/onfTVvAR9bL1tUJZA).
There's other random things along that spur, like a sign that just says "TRACKS" (https://maps.app.goo.gl/kN5wTUAVNwNKDo998) (presumably the number fell off) and a stencil font on one crossing (https://maps.app.goo.gl/LECeR6L8vEfprgUB6) (also the # of tracks on the other side missing the paint).

Also, is the 3 tracks a long-standing error or was an extra spur removed a long time ago?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on September 20, 2023, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Dirt Roads on September 19, 2023, 08:15:48 PM
My guess is that an appropriate agency (say Sedgwick County Conservation District) was able to get the EPA project to fund the watershed signage, and instead of coordinating that signage with other districts feeding the Lower Arkansas watershed, they simply decided to post the site-specific information related to the particular stream (in this case, the runoff area related to Gypsum Creek).

I guess I just think it's weird that there's signage for it at all.



Quote from: jakeroot on September 19, 2023, 10:05:49 PM
Am I really to assume that black-on-white signage is always regulatory?

Generally, yes.  Of course, specific exceptions have been pointed out already, but such exceptions are only those that have been spelled out elsewhere in the MUTCD (subsection 02, below).

Quote from: MUTCD, 2009 Edition
Chapter 1A – General

Section 1A.12 – Color Code

02 – [...] The meanings described in this Section are of a general nature. More specific assignments of colors are given in the individual Parts of this Manual relating to each class of devices.

Standard:

03 – The general meaning of the 13 colors shall be as follows:

A.  Black–regulation
B.  Blue–road user services guidance, tourist information, and evacuation route
C.  Brown–recreational and cultural interest area guidance
D.  Coral–unassigned
E.  Fluorescent Pink–incident management
F.  Fluorescent Yellow-Green–pedestrian warning, bicycle warning, playground warning, school bus and school warning
G.  Green–indicated movements permitted, direction guidance
H.  Light Blue–unassigned
I.  Orange–temporary traffic control
J.  Purple–lanes restricted to use only by vehicles with registered electronic toll collection (ETC) accounts
K.  Red–stop or prohibition
L.  White–regulation
M.  Yellow–warning



Quote from: Big John on September 19, 2023, 10:11:11 PM
Massachusetts city limit signs are a decorative black on white.

That is one such specific exception granted by the MUTCD:

Quote from: MUTCD, 2009 Edition
2H – General Information Signs

Section 2H.02 – General Information Signs (I Series)

Standard:

03 – Except for political boundary signs, General Information signs shall have white legends and borders on green rectangular-shaped backgrounds.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 20, 2023, 11:46:49 AM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on September 20, 2023, 01:32:37 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 19, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
A railroad crossing in Shelbyville, IL has some of the final inverted number of tracks signs left:
Southbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSonsknkVCq3LjJi6).
Northbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/7qag7ncVEsQkSWRH8)

The nearby crossing on Vine Street also had them (https://maps.app.goo.gl/onfTVvAR9bL1tUJZA).
There's other random things along that spur, like a sign that just says "TRACKS" (https://maps.app.goo.gl/kN5wTUAVNwNKDo998) (presumably the number fell off) and a stencil font on one crossing (https://maps.app.goo.gl/LECeR6L8vEfprgUB6) (also the # of tracks on the other side missing the paint).

Also, is the 3 tracks a long-standing error or was an extra spur removed a long time ago?
Probably a third track that was removed long ago. Railroads ain't always super quick to update their Tracks signage when removing tracks through a crossing, especially if they leave the rails in the road itself, I've noticed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on September 20, 2023, 12:18:12 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on September 20, 2023, 01:32:37 AM
Also, is the 3 tracks a long-standing error or was an extra spur removed a long time ago?

Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 20, 2023, 11:46:49 AM
Probably a third track that was removed long ago. Railroads ain't always super quick to update their Tracks signage when removing tracks through a crossing, especially if they leave the rails in the road itself, I've noticed.

Additionally, many railroads take the legal stance that all of the warning devices and signage are the responsibility of the State (not necessarily the State's highway division).  Assuming that the railroad properly filed the removal of that particular track to the Federal Railroad Administration crossing inventory (along with a copy to the State, whoever that might be) then the railroad would presume that the State has been notified of the change and is required to contract with the railroad for the appropriate signage changes (which often are part of a larger contract).  It doesn't surprise me that many States have a problem with this concept, and simply allow the old signage to remain.

On the other hand, the railroads are particularly careful when adding a new track to the crossing.  The lack of a "number of tracks" plaque (R15-2P) is considered by railroads to be a serious safety issue that requires immediate attention.  An insufficient warning (such as displaying "2 Tracks" when there are actually "3 Tracks" or more) should be treated the same, but might not get the same level of urgency.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on September 20, 2023, 05:07:15 PM
Quote from: Amaury on September 18, 2023, 03:58:08 PM

Additionally, at the same location, for the westbound entrance ramp, there used to be an exit ramp off of that entrance ramp that just looped back to Snoqualmie Parkway, which is weird, because you would have just gotten there by just taking Exit 25, so I don't know why they had that: https://maps.app.goo.gl/NvVAQ52fjhanFtH48

It's still there, but is not officially used, with the guide sign and everything taken down: https://maps.app.goo.gl/mqCs4Y89G3Sr9cFP7 And in 2022, it was barricaded: https://maps.app.goo.gl/gRPJzzgmzefuXYzN7

Here it is on the Snoqualmie Parkway end when it was active: https://maps.app.goo.gl/bwEgYsasTV2CCK3R9 And currently: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Gg8XLLvk1v8tYpH96 It also used to be barricaded, as seen by the 2021 and 2022 captures: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KAZFvhAEicYM9TFb7

Used to be a weigh station there, as can be seen by the old scale house.  The return route was for trucks to use the weigh station as required, then return to Highway 18.

Quote from: Amaury on September 16, 2023, 06:38:17 PM
Not a lot of these giant wrong way signs in Washington. Interstate 90 eastbound Exit 52 ramp: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dfvr5r1NBqrKJaZw9 I can't tell if the one on the left was intentionally covered for some reason or if it's just faded.

US 10 used to go westbound along the eastbound offramp here.  Also, the interchange is used in snowy weather as people go home from skiing, so the signs have to be extra visible.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on September 20, 2023, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2023, 11:44:11 PM
IIRC, the CSX Memphis Subdivision has a pair in Humboldt, TN.

Found it - it's the Patton Street crossing. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/2iAT3gHraeWDMYbL6)

The one other location I was wondering about in Hooper, Nebraska that even had inverted crossbucks no longer exists per Streetview (older streetview of the crossing) (https://maps.app.goo.gl/xeVqRmSHhX32q4Yi7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 21, 2023, 01:49:17 AM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 20, 2023, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on September 19, 2023, 11:44:11 PM
IIRC, the CSX Memphis Subdivision has a pair in Humboldt, TN.

Found it - it's the Patton Street crossing. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/2iAT3gHraeWDMYbL6)
Actually 6th Avenue (Patton Street's the side street on the one side there), but yea, that's it.


Quote from: Revive 755 on September 20, 2023, 10:34:11 PM
The one other location I was wondering about in Hooper, Nebraska that even had inverted crossbucks no longer exists per Streetview (older streetview of the crossing) (https://maps.app.goo.gl/xeVqRmSHhX32q4Yi7).
Yea, sadly the line that operated that crossing went bust a while back. Shame too, I believe that was the last crossing in the US to use inverted crossbucks.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 22, 2023, 06:36:23 PM
https://thefbiepisodeguide.wordpress.com/season-six-1970-71/
At 0:33 there appears to be a cut out one way sign.  Scroll down to the video preview of the article episode guide.

Was that norm in the 1970's for California ( where the scene was filmed)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on September 22, 2023, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 22, 2023, 06:36:23 PM
https://thefbiepisodeguide.wordpress.com/season-six-1970-71/
At 0:33 there appears to be a cut out one way sign.  Scroll down to the video preview of the article episode guide.

Was that norm in the 1970's for California ( where the scene was filmed)?

Has always been the norm in California, even today. Just searching "California One Way Sign" brings up a lot of results. Here's a stock image:

(https://static3.bigstockphoto.com/7/7/2/large1500/2775172.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on September 22, 2023, 11:29:36 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 22, 2023, 06:58:27 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 22, 2023, 06:36:23 PM
https://thefbiepisodeguide.wordpress.com/season-six-1970-71/

At 0:33 there appears to be a cut out one way sign.  Scroll down to the video preview of the article episode guide.

Was that norm in the 1970's for California ( where the scene was filmed)?

Has always been the norm in California, even today. Just searching "California One Way Sign" brings up a lot of results.

I think the pointed one-way sign fell victim to adoption of the current California MUTCD in lieu of the 2009 federal MUTCD.  It is no longer listed among the Caltrans sign specs.  The California-specific "Wrong Way" signs (which came in two designs--on one line in Series D, and on two lines in Series F) are also gone.

New York also had its own iconic design for "One Way," which is squared off like the federal sign but with "One" or "Way" (depending on orientation) partly in the arrowhead.  I'm not sure it is still in use.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on September 24, 2023, 11:23:03 AM
Laser-accuracy measurement on US-30 west of Frazer, PA:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZF7MZaM.jpg)

Banner contest somewhere in the same general area, I think:
(https://i.imgur.com/8XOUa4y.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 24, 2023, 05:10:20 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53211386655/
I noticed that at the Welcome Sign on I-70 in Kansas City, that there is a little sign for the Lewis and Clark Viaduct attached to the support.

Although common practice, its still a bit weird considering the viaduct has begun almost one mile ago in Kansas City, KS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on September 24, 2023, 05:49:36 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53211279578/in/dateposted-public/

Here is one that appears to be Exit 20, but is actually Exit 2D.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53211279578/in/dateposted-public/
Part of Kansas City's infamous alphabet loop with all Exit 2's and letter suffixes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 24, 2023, 06:00:57 PM
A collection from a recent road trip:

Someone may have posted this kind of thing in VA before.  Criser Rd at US 522 in Front Royal, VA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53211016571_c78e26aa34_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p55noc)Weird US 522 Sign at Criser Road Front Royal VA (https://flic.kr/p/2p55noc)

Chicken Truck Turn Ahead signage on VA 42 near Columbia Furnace, VA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53211319503_dde97427c5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p56Vra)Chicken Truck Sign - Columbia Furnace 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2p56Vra)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53211016531_d578f1994b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p55nnv)Chicken Truck Sign - Columbia Furnace 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2p55nnv)

Appalachian Trail Marker in Shenandoah National Park (chiseled rather than the usual spade shield to match other Skyline Drive trail markers):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53211527385_840274ad32_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p57Zek)Shenandoah 38 - Appalachian Trail Marker (https://flic.kr/p/2p57Zek)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 24, 2023, 06:04:41 PM
Not sure how common it is to see a junction banner on signage like this in VA.  I'd guess less than half...?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53211527275_b0ceb78c67_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p57Zcr)Junction Sign for VA 678 Kings Crossing VA (https://flic.kr/p/2p57Zcr)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on September 24, 2023, 06:06:22 PM
Wasn't someone excited about inverted rail signage?  In Edinburg, VA.  Looks endangered...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53211319408_54d8c477e9_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p56Vpw)Inverted Rail Sign in Edinburg VA on VA 185 (https://flic.kr/p/2p56Vpw)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 24, 2023, 09:12:15 PM
I very rarely see "JUNCTION"  written out anywhere.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on September 29, 2023, 10:54:17 PM
Quote from: Revive 755 on September 19, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
A railroad crossing in Shelbyville, IL has some of the final inverted number of tracks signs left:
Southbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSonsknkVCq3LjJi6).
Northbound Cedar Street (https://maps.app.goo.gl/7qag7ncVEsQkSWRH8)

The nearby crossing on Vine Street also had them (https://maps.app.goo.gl/onfTVvAR9bL1tUJZA).
I've always like those, especially with the glass lenses in them (way beyond mere button copy). I felt they gave the crossbucks more strength.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 30, 2023, 02:25:36 PM
On OH 58 SB at Cleveland Ave (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219476866952834&set=a.10219476293498498)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53402390031_dfee97d264_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on September 30, 2023, 02:51:05 PM
This is on US Route 2 eastbound in Washington. I find it interesting because both of these signs are on single posts, but it's not the single posts that are interesting because that's normal, it's where the posts are attached to on the signs: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2KDJyDUoixboEF169 They're on one side of the signs instead of in the middle.

It looks like it was intentionally done like that for some reason looking back through some of the different captures. However, it's interesting to note that the 2008 and 2007 captures have the signs how you'd normally see them: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qXwtvcQCtT3dpjoGA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on September 30, 2023, 03:31:20 PM
^^ Looks like the posts are close to the shoulder, probably because of the topography.  It was likely shown that the centered signs were encroaching on the shoulder, so they moved the signs a bit to the right making them non-centered on the post.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53023003571_be1292b420_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK)Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 01, 2023, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on September 24, 2023, 09:12:15 PM
I very rarely see "JUNCTION"  written out anywhere.
I still remember a big junction banner on westbound NY 25 in the Village of The Branch just before it approached NY 111 and the eastern terminus of the overlap with NY 25A. How I regret finding out that it doesn't exist anymore.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 01, 2023, 12:00:29 PM
On OH 65 NB approaching OH 120 WB in Toledo.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219478162345218&set=a.10219478401231190)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419053142_fbeac37dfe_c.jpg)

Two more further west in the Toledo area on OH 2

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219478250267416&set=a.10219478401231190)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420411255_40e6e3d164_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219478251467446&set=a.10219478401231190)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419058922_96f0d2dce2_c.jpg)

On Linfoot St in Wauseon, OH, just east of OH 2/OH 108 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219478314269016&set=a.10219478401231190)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420142553_b5aa453bc5_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on October 01, 2023, 03:22:39 PM
A no turn on red sign with specifics plus a traffic light with 2 12" green arrows and 8" red and yellow bulbs

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7467866,-74.1604563,3a,39.4y,213.2h,89.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4nh3x8MDn70tTxBebBFtzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 01, 2023, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on October 01, 2023, 03:22:39 PM
A no turn on red sign with specifics plus a traffic light with 2 12" green arrows and 8" red and yellow bulbs

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7467866,-74.1604563,3a,39.4y,213.2h,89.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4nh3x8MDn70tTxBebBFtzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
I mean, an 8-8-12-12 like that is kinda the only way you could add arrows to an 8 inch signal, given that arrows are only allowed to be 12 inch on new installs since about the 60s, IIRC.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 01, 2023, 10:03:42 PM
US 24 BUS (Peru) WB at 24th St in Logansport, IN, has a white sign pointing to a high school.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219487939389638&set=a.10219488070432914)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420434835_2de8e7f09f_c.jpg)

And just north of here also on US 24 BUS (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219487940269660&set=a.10219488070432914)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420004931_d368474aa1_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 01, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 01, 2023, 12:00:29 PM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219478251467446&set=a.10219478401231190)
(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/381282269_10219478251427445_3306404532468075166_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=813123&_nc_ohc=Eoj8nn1xU6kAX-PEkYR&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfDzes7DI2PRs6xK2qcDCkIRA5MGwRHvRudKaIsOQ_faKg&oe=651F7FAB)

Not sure I've ever seen this mistake before. Sign clearly implies 13.6 inches of clearance :-D. At least the other sign you also posted has the single prime symbol next to the foot measurement.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 02, 2023, 08:43:59 AM
^^b Also belongs in the incorrect shields thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 02, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
I remember them signing US 144 in the early aughts.

However that white guide is odd that they've used there. The shields may be erroneous, but the white sign is off beat.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on October 02, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
So only multiples of 12 become US routes?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 09:04:08 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 02, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
I remember them signing US 144 in the early aughts.

However that white guide is odd that they've used there. The shields may be erroneous, but the white sign is off beat.

US 144 is a Colonial Heights thing not Hopewell.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.msg2864804#msg2864804)

Quote from: 1 on October 02, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
So only multiples of 12 become US routes?

Hopewell has signed US 10 as well.  I am unable to post a photo of it at the moment, but you can browse through my Facebook albums or GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3101028,-77.2971228,3a,75y,36.1h,91.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saZnwZh5woGy4ua-bT2oQ9w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaZnwZh5woGy4ua-bT2oQ9w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.56352%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) and find it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:

Hopewell even turned the infamous mutant VA 10 shield into a US shield. Don't have any photos of what it looks like now though.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:

Hopewell even turned the infamous mutant VA 10 shield into a US shield. Don't have any photos of what it looks like now though.

That must have been very recent.  It was still there when I visited my parents back in August.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 09:31:41 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 09:09:16 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on October 02, 2023, 08:26:45 AM
I don't know where to begin with this.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2892085,-77.2981666,3a,15y,228.86h,85.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sF5EqumVY2uWIqDQyWn4ReA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I had not seen that error, but yes, Hopewell has turned everything into a US Route.  :pan:

Hopewell even turned the infamous mutant VA 10 shield into a US shield. Don't have any photos of what it looks like now though.

That must have been very recent.  It was still there when I visited my parents back in August.

Yeah, they seem to be on a sign replacing spree lately.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on October 02, 2023, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53023003571_be1292b420_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK)Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
We have a 5-sided sign in Astoria (https://maps.app.goo.gl/tWBKunGYxjcewMMy8) for similar reasons, which I thought I posted when joining the forums but apparently not:
(https://i.imgur.com/dwSxvrE.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on October 02, 2023, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53023003571_be1292b420_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK)Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
We have a 5-sided sign in Astoria (https://maps.app.goo.gl/tWBKunGYxjcewMMy8) for similar reasons, which I thought I posted when joining the forums but apparently not:
(https://i.imgur.com/dwSxvrE.png)
There's also hexagons (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7280599,-74.0525863,3a,48.3y,338.89h,93.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd0X67O7fK6m_QQGnsf1o6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) on I-78.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
There's also hexagons (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7280599,-74.0525863,3a,48.3y,338.89h,93.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd0X67O7fK6m_QQGnsf1o6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) on I-78.

Thanks.  I was looking for examples of that but gave up.

Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
There's also hexagons (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7280599,-74.0525863,3a,48.3y,338.89h,93.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd0X67O7fK6m_QQGnsf1o6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) on I-78.

Thanks.  I was looking for examples of that but gave up.

Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I don't see why it would, because it's better to have the sign hang off the ledge (though it would be hell to pick it up in case of a bad move when putting it up).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 05:50:09 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 09:04:08 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 02, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
I remember them signing US 144 in the early aughts.

However that white guide is odd that they've used there. The shields may be erroneous, but the white sign is off beat.

US 144 is a Colonial Heights thing not Hopewell.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=18607.msg2864804#msg2864804)

Quote from: 1 on October 02, 2023, 09:00:22 AM
So only multiples of 12 become US routes?

Hopewell has signed US 10 as well.  I am unable to post a photo of it at the moment, but you can browse through my Facebook albums or GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3101028,-77.2971228,3a,75y,36.1h,91.45t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1saZnwZh5woGy4ua-bT2oQ9w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DaZnwZh5woGy4ua-bT2oQ9w%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D158.56352%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) and find it.

One of the US 10 photos:

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217882379171636&set=a.10217882434013007)(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420350679_3edebf7c6d_c.jpg)

Anyway, on US 24 WB at US 41/US 52 EB in western Indiana (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219487999751147&set=a.10219488070432914)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420466285_140e38eb72_c.jpg)

And on US 150 WB at IL 29 in Peoria (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219488061952702&set=a.10219488070432914)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420037481_64cb6ab678_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 02, 2023, 06:13:53 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PMDoes anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I think the 2003 MUTCD allowed it, but I don't remember if that concession was limited to construction signs.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 02, 2023, 06:38:57 PM
This is IL trying to be NJ on US 150 in Peoria.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219487721464190&set=a.10219488070432914)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420490600_d30754e525_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 02, 2023, 06:51:56 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on October 02, 2023, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2023, 06:45:43 AM
I've seen such a setup in Montréal, and yes, it's because of the sign encroaching on the ROW:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53023003571_be1292b420_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK)Snow accumulation, Échangeur Turcot (https://flic.kr/p/2oMsKEK) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
We have a 5-sided sign in Astoria (https://maps.app.goo.gl/tWBKunGYxjcewMMy8) for similar reasons, which I thought I posted when joining the forums but apparently not:
(https://i.imgur.com/dwSxvrE.png)
There's also hexagons (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7280599,-74.0525863,3a,48.3y,338.89h,93.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd0X67O7fK6m_QQGnsf1o6w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) on I-78.

I love how TxDOT handles these situations -- mounting a 45° angled post off the side of the barrier then adding a short vertical post holding the sign.  The sign is out of the way of danger and can still be seen.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
A hodgepodge:

Just some button copy in OH.  Surprised we don't have an obvious thread devoted to button copy, but it would probably be just an enormous pit, I suppose:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53229143507_5ec635ca5e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6FgTz)

Span wire street blades, Mount Sterling, OH:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53230015066_5c84fce862_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6KJYs)

Rusty old one way sign in Celina, OH:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53230397654_23cc05094f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6MGGN)

OH 53 shield?:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53229143452_17255b6ba8_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6FgSC)

Holmes County 330 Shield (an example):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53230518120_257d95fd05_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6NjvN)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Billy F 1988 on October 02, 2023, 07:14:14 PM
(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315108045_10217882379091634_2673503331278966756_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=813123&_nc_ohc=-nSmcWXYP4sAX8TsNFI&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCRp_b54N1oLo83cPuD0cQayx2_UZ5BJ00ZdCPUy1AWNQ&oe=65210969)

What in bloody crike happened to those I-95 and 295 shields behind the 156?! Ugggggggha! Daaaaamn they ugly! Ooof. Damn contractors! Did they just plop those ugly ass numbers from, like, Photoshop, onto those shields, especially the US 156? Like, bro. Isn't that why (loosely) most contractors use a particular program, like, oh, I know, SIGNCAD, something like that? I'm surprised the US 10 sign survived that ugliness! 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 02, 2023, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
A hodgepodge:

Just some button copy in OH.  Surprised we don't have an obvious thread devoted to button copy, but it would probably be just an enormous pit, I suppose:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53229143507_5ec635ca5e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6FgTz)

Ain't "The Best of Road Signs" also typically that?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 09:29:23 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 02, 2023, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 02, 2023, 07:02:45 PM
A hodgepodge:

Just some button copy in OH.  Surprised we don't have an obvious thread devoted to button copy, but it would probably be just an enormous pit, I suppose:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53229143507_5ec635ca5e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p6FgTz)

Ain't "The Best of Road Signs" also typically that?
No.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 03, 2023, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 02, 2023, 06:13:53 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I think the 2003 MUTCD allowed it, but I don't remember if that concession was limited to construction signs.

Thanks for sending me in the right direction on this.  I believe you're correct in thinking it was only allowed for construction (temporary traffic control) signs.

But it wasn't limited to the 2003 edition:  it's in the 2009 edition as well.

Quote from: Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, 2009 Edition
Part 6 — Temporary Traffic Control

Chapter 6F — Temporary Traffic Control Zone Devices

§ 6F.16 — Warning Sign Function, Design, and Application

Option:
04 — Mounting or space considerations may justify a change from the standard diamond shape.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 03, 2023, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2023, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on October 02, 2023, 06:13:53 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 02, 2023, 03:37:20 PM
Does anyone know if this hexagonal treatment ever received support in the MUTCD?

I think the 2003 MUTCD allowed it, but I don't remember if that concession was limited to construction signs.

Thanks for sending me in the right direction on this.  I believe you're correct in thinking it was only allowed for construction (temporary traffic control) signs.

But it wasn't limited to the 2003 edition:  it's in the 2009 edition as well.

Quote from: Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, 2009 Edition
Part 6 — Temporary Traffic Control

Chapter 6F — Temporary Traffic Control Zone Devices

§ 6F.16 — Warning Sign Function, Design, and Application

Option:
04 — Mounting or space considerations may justify a change from the standard diamond shape.

I had the recollection that modifying standard shapes for permanent signage was explicitly prohibited. However, I can't find a MUTCD reference or FHWA interpretation to back that up.

In any case, some of these signs (like the hexagonal curve linked previously) could easily be regular size and shape with a modified mounting. Seems like that would've been easier than making a custom sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 03, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
Quote from: Amaury on September 30, 2023, 02:51:05 PM
This is on US Route 2 eastbound in Washington. I find it interesting because both of these signs are on single posts, but it's not the single posts that are interesting because that's normal, it's where the posts are attached to on the signs: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2KDJyDUoixboEF169 They're on one side of the signs instead of in the middle.

It looks like it was intentionally done like that for some reason looking back through some of the different captures. However, it's interesting to note that the 2008 and 2007 captures have the signs how you'd normally see them: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qXwtvcQCtT3dpjoGA

Quote from: roadfro on October 03, 2023, 12:52:55 PM
In any case, some of these signs (like the hexagonal curve linked previously) could easily be regular size and shape with a modified mounting. Seems like that would've been easier than making a custom sign.

Which, in case anyone has (understandably) forgotten by now, is where this conversation started.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 03, 2023, 01:44:25 PM
Pancake green BL shield.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53229976876
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 03, 2023, 03:53:57 PM
At the east end of the US 6/IL 82 concurrency in Geneseo.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219506344369751&set=a.10219506470572906)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420390559_893c64b31b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on October 03, 2023, 11:19:42 PM
Quote from: Billy F 1988 on October 02, 2023, 07:14:14 PM
(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315108045_10217882379091634_2673503331278966756_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=813123&_nc_ohc=-nSmcWXYP4sAX8TsNFI&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfCRp_b54N1oLo83cPuD0cQayx2_UZ5BJ00ZdCPUy1AWNQ&oe=65210969)

What in bloody crike happened to those I-95 and 295 shields behind the 156?! Ugggggggha! Daaaaamn they ugly! Ooof. Damn contractors! Did they just plop those ugly ass numbers from, like, Photoshop, onto those shields, especially the US 156? Like, bro. Isn't that why (loosely) most contractors use a particular program, like, oh, I know, SIGNCAD, something like that? I'm surprised the US 10 sign survived that ugliness!
Incredible "derp" signage.  What started in Norfolk around 1990 has expanded across the central part of the commonwealth.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on October 03, 2023, 11:57:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
Quote from: roadfro on October 03, 2023, 12:52:55 PM
In any case, some of these signs (like the hexagonal curve linked previously) could easily be regular size and shape with a modified mounting. Seems like that would've been easier than making a custom sign.

Which, in case anyone has (understandably) forgotten by now, is where this conversation started.

I hadn't forgotten. I didn't really convey it well in my first post, but I'm more wondering about the thought process... if I were designing and had a clearance situation with a sign, my first thought would be alternative mounting and not "design a sign on a custom shaped blank". Gotta think the latter method would be more expensive...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 04, 2023, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: roadfro on October 03, 2023, 11:57:31 PM
I'm more wondering about the thought process... if I were designing and had a clearance situation with a sign, my first thought would be alternative mounting and not "design a sign on a custom shaped blank". Gotta think the latter method would be more expensive...

I don't know.  I could see it the other way too.

This situation is bound to exist in other locations within the district as well.  Design a sign blank once, and use existing mounting hardware that every office has on hand.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on October 05, 2023, 05:03:16 AM
Here is a six-sided warning sign, but it's much closer to diamond in shape with just some of the corners cut off.

WA-512, Tacoma (https://maps.app.goo.gl/DnV8mnJxdAbfrueE7).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 05, 2023, 05:35:09 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 05, 2023, 05:03:16 AM
Here is a six-sided warning sign, but it's much closer to diamond in shape with just some of the corners cut off.

WA-512, Tacoma (https://maps.app.goo.gl/DnV8mnJxdAbfrueE7).
That is the most that could be cut off without affecting the wording.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tmoore952 on October 05, 2023, 05:34:17 PM
Clunkily worded sign from 1970s that was unique to me (in that I never saw another one like it), so I'll write about it here.
No pictures, this was well before I was even driving so I had no ability to take pictures of signs with the cameras of that time.

I used to live in northern Delaware, and we often needed to go to Philadelphia International Airport to pick up or drop off people. At that time I-95 was not completed between the Girard Point Bridge (northern end of gap) and a point north of PA 420 and south of the airport (southern end of gap). That part was not completed until 1985. I remember the northbound interstate going over rumble strips and ending at a stoplight at PA 291, where you turned left to continue going north towards the airport and beyond.

So - when coming south on PA 291 from the airport, you would turn right onto I-95 south.
Before that turn, there was a rectangular green sign on the side of the road that said  - spaced up and down as I remember it:

"I-95 (not spelled out --just a shield which had a Pennsylvania designation) South
Chester
Wilmington
Keep Moving"

By early 80s, a standard black-on-white "Keep Right" sign had been installed ON TOP of the "Keep Moving" text.
In 1985, that old termination point became an interchange when I-95 was completed, but the entire sign was gone by then.

That is the only time I ever saw "Keep Moving" on a sign.
However: (1) I was not that well-traveled and (2) I mostly missed the time (too young) when interstates were only open in segments and there were more of these termination points.

So I am not that sure how unique the usage of "Keep Moving" was.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 05, 2023, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: tmoore952 on October 05, 2023, 05:34:17 PM
Clunkily worded sign from 1970s that was unique to me (in that I never saw another one like it), so I'll write about it here.
No pictures, this was well before I was even driving so I had no ability to take pictures of signs with the cameras of that time.

I used to live in northern Delaware, and we often needed to go to Philadelphia International Airport to pick up or drop off people. At that time I-95 was not completed between the Girard Point Bridge (northern end of gap) and a point north of PA 420 and south of the airport (southern end of gap). That part was not completed until 1985. I remember the northbound interstate going over rumble strips and ending at a stoplight at PA 291, where you turned left to continue going north towards the airport and beyond.

So - when coming south on PA 291 from the airport, you would turn right onto I-95 south.
Before that turn, there was a rectangular green sign on the side of the road that said  - spaced up and down as I remember it:

"I-95 (not spelled out --just a shield which had a Pennsylvania designation) South
Chester
Wilmington
Keep Moving"

By early 80s, a standard black-on-white "Keep Right" sign had been installed ON TOP of the "Keep Moving" text.
In 1985, that old termination point became an interchange when I-95 was completed, but the entire sign was gone by then.

That is the only time I ever saw "Keep Moving" on a sign.
However: (1) I was not that well-traveled and (2) I mostly missed the time (too young) when interstates were only open in segments and there were more of these termination points.

So I am not that sure how unique the usage of "Keep Moving" was.

Like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/C1hUG0i.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on October 06, 2023, 09:42:13 AM
Yes, it was something like that, except that the "Keep moving" was in mixed-case.  (I grew up in Newark, DE and remember that sign well.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tmoore952 on October 06, 2023, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 05, 2023, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: tmoore952 on October 05, 2023, 05:34:17 PM
Clunkily worded sign from 1970s that was unique to me (in that I never saw another one like it), so I'll write about it here.
No pictures, this was well before I was even driving so I had no ability to take pictures of signs with the cameras of that time.

I used to live in northern Delaware, and we often needed to go to Philadelphia International Airport to pick up or drop off people. At that time I-95 was not completed between the Girard Point Bridge (northern end of gap) and a point north of PA 420 and south of the airport (southern end of gap). That part was not completed until 1985. I remember the northbound interstate going over rumble strips and ending at a stoplight at PA 291, where you turned left to continue going north towards the airport and beyond.

So - when coming south on PA 291 from the airport, you would turn right onto I-95 south.
Before that turn, there was a rectangular green sign on the side of the road that said  - spaced up and down as I remember it:

"I-95 (not spelled out --just a shield which had a Pennsylvania designation) South
Chester
Wilmington
Keep Moving"

By early 80s, a standard black-on-white "Keep Right" sign had been installed ON TOP of the "Keep Moving" text.
In 1985, that old termination point became an interchange when I-95 was completed, but the entire sign was gone by then.

That is the only time I ever saw "Keep Moving" on a sign.
However: (1) I was not that well-traveled and (2) I mostly missed the time (too young) when interstates were only open in segments and there were more of these termination points.

So I am not that sure how unique the usage of "Keep Moving" was.

Like this?

(https://i.imgur.com/C1hUG0i.png)

Yes, that's close.

However, the sign was very old (close to peeling) and I believe(?) the sign was rectangular, not square. It was on the side of the road (the square sign looks like an overhead sign). And I agree with elsmere241 that Keep Moving was in mixed case.

In addition, the shield didn't look like that. The "9" and the "5" numbers were fatter (covered more of the shield), and "Pennsylvania" was more spread out. I remember seeing this particular 95 shield a lot in the 70s. Can't speak for after that. Possibly this type shield could still exist at interchanges (like under a "JCT" sign)? I don't live in the area anymore so can't easily check.

I do NOT see said shield in the Pennsylvania shield page on this site.

The "95" shield I am thinking of has "fat" numbers. Looks a lot like what I remember seeing in the median of the NJ Turnpike, but obviously wo the "Pennsylvania" designation.
On this site, the 1957 specification for Interstate 95 with "District of Columbia" designation looks most like what I remember, but obviously what I remember had a "Pennsylvania" designation. I have posted a link. This is along the right lines, except that the linked sign is way too new-looking.

https://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DC19580951

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 06, 2023, 02:12:00 PM
Weird stuff in Fresno (putting out the Max-Bat-signal).

When the text don't fit and you don't care.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2KVdFTG258cYggkTA

"Should we put the exit only panel on the right like everyone expects, or put on the left and mush it all together so it kind of points to the correct lane?"
"Uh ... let's go with plan B." (also on the other side of the highway)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y6aVd8UGPKesUaSq5
https://maps.app.goo.gl/PfRq7iRpc7PKyg9E7


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 07, 2023, 09:25:32 AM
The next 16 miles west of Cloudcroft on US 82 graphically illustrated:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53238706677_e40d7c68e0_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p7whFP)0 (https://flic.kr/p/2p7whFP) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 07, 2023, 06:14:31 PM
IN 4 EB at IN 23 in North Liberty has SR 23 in text on a yellow sign below the STOP sign.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219534072262931&set=a.10219534495353508)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419171737_e5fa8ec20e_c.jpg)

Michigan St NB at Kern Rd in South Bend, IN, has US 31 TRUCK ROUTE written in text. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219534054222480&set=a.10219534495353508)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420260983_ceaf7211b1_c.jpg)

US 31 BUS (South Bend) NB signage in South Bend, IN  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219534112383934&set=a.10219534495353508)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420103641_30736c8a0a_c.jpg)

And US/IN 933?  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219534058422585&set=a.10219534495353508)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420533325_b018ee5d62_c.jpg)

A yellow school speed limit sign on Calumet Ave in Munster, IN.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219529627671819&set=a.10219529679833123)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420105981_18e05468aa_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 09, 2023, 07:00:09 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/azK629z1g9JzwZJt5
Odd to see two separate advanced guide panels for a cloverleaf interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 09, 2023, 12:26:35 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5QZ74gNg1qAFARNC7
What is the LED sign talking about to the right?  The Arrive Cam App that is. This is unusual and odd for a sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 09, 2023, 12:48:25 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 09, 2023, 12:26:35 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5QZ74gNg1qAFARNC7
What is the LED sign talking about to the right?  The Arrive Cam App that is. This is unusual and odd for a sign.
and gas prices on the left part of an official sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 09, 2023, 01:56:12 PM
Ohio DOT loves being abnormal.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219547341834662&set=a.10219547465077743) (in Newark, OH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420288568_fcde109b8a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 09, 2023, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 09, 2023, 12:26:35 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5QZ74gNg1qAFARNC7
What is the LED sign talking about to the right?  The Arrive Cam App that is. This is unusual and odd for a sign.

ITYM ArriveCAN: https://www.canada.ca/en/border-services-agency/services/splash-arrivecan.html
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 09, 2023, 09:38:13 PM
Fairly new dancing arrows on wbd US-30 in Breezewood:

(https://i.imgur.com/QJgqJC9.jpg)

(For reference, here are the previous signs:)

(https://i.imgur.com/TRi8pMZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on October 09, 2023, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on October 09, 2023, 09:38:13 PM
Fairly new dancing arrows on wbd US-30 in Breezewood:

(https://i.imgur.com/QJgqJC9.jpg)


Nearly everything about this is pretty bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 10, 2023, 04:47:23 PM
^Honestly, it looks nothing different than the dancing arrows all around Columbus, OH.

Anyway back in PA on PA 21 EB east of I-79 near Jensen Hollow Rd.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219551007806309&set=a.10219551118889086)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420571170_d352d2afac_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 10, 2023, 08:27:49 PM
A few unusual (I thought) signs I came across during last week's vacation stop in Halifax, Nova Scotia:

Half the road closed for building construction.
(https://i.imgur.com/4akAJJt.jpg)

Bicyclists at this intersection are to use the crosswalks instead of making a direct left turn from the traffic lane:
(https://i.imgur.com/wIL2leB.jpg)

Trucks may not proceed straight during overnight hours:
(https://i.imgur.com/FFJIj1T.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 10, 2023, 10:18:18 PM
I found this blue sign at the Hershey West Distribution Plant entrance while trying to regroup after my planned route of taking Hockersville Rd to US 422 was closed due to an event.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219554817901559&set=a.10219555039387096)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419236352_01eddb257f_c.jpg)



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 11, 2023, 01:40:08 AM
I'd say the other signs are a bit unusual as well, though make sense given the context.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 11, 2023, 10:48:57 AM
US 422 EB at Dutchway Dr/Private Dr in Myerstown, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219554855022487&set=a.10219555039387096)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419262392_c2692de45e_c.jpg)

On Graphite Mine Rd SB at PA 100  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219554906623777&set=a.10219555039387096)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419264112_6e578ee27b_c.jpg)

An odd US 30 text reference from the McDonald's parking lot at the US 30/PA 401 intersection. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219554947224792&set=a.10219555039387096)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420620005_d2522e7167_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 11, 2023, 06:54:23 PM
This NY state park signage looks inverted to me:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53251714696_949064971a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p8EXw1)Inverted State Park Sign (https://flic.kr/p/2p8EXw1)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on October 11, 2023, 08:07:28 PM
Found this last week at Grants Pass, Oregon. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ahk92SRoH6Xj21FVA)  Great restored neon destination sign, pre-shield.  Not the quickest way to San Francisco these days, but I'm glad they put in the effort.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53250888212_330d91b2f9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p8AHQh)

Also, somewhere along mountainous I-5 in California is a sharp curve sign that is an animation of a truck tipping over, but I can't find it now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 11, 2023, 08:25:33 PM
TE Connectivity Parking Lot (on Paxton St)  (Private Property No Trespassing Sign ) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219561973920455&set=a.10218247474178783)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420550864_94742b0ca7_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on October 11, 2023, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 11, 2023, 08:07:28 PM
Found this last week at Grants Pass, Oregon. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ahk92SRoH6Xj21FVA)  Great restored neon destination sign, pre-shield.  Not the quickest way to San Francisco these days, but I'm glad they put in the effort.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53250888212_330d91b2f9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p8AHQh)

Also, somewhere along mountainous I-5 in California is a sharp curve sign that is an animation of a truck tipping over, but I can't find it now.
Yep, this one pops up on the forum every now and then.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on October 11, 2023, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 09, 2023, 01:56:12 PM
Ohio DOT loves being abnormal.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219547341834662&set=a.10219547465077743) (in Newark, OH)

(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/386392901_10219547341794661_8345329284372646936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=813123&_nc_ohc=3HRkcqPx_hYAX9w0Slr&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAXShcXmkMm2TArFU88ljA2KOlK0QhMMv80xT77wsyvZQ&oe=6529F2FA)

Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 09, 2023, 01:56:12 PM
Ohio DOT loves being abnormal.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219547341834662&set=a.10219547465077743) (in Newark, OH)

(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/386392901_10219547341794661_8345329284372646936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=813123&_nc_ohc=3HRkcqPx_hYAX9w0Slr&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAXShcXmkMm2TArFU88ljA2KOlK0QhMMv80xT77wsyvZQ&oe=6529F2FA)


DAMN, those signs are.sooo......Oklahoman!!!

Just because they are adjacent to each other alphabetically doesn't mean Ohio has to COPY Oklahoma's  signage methods!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 11, 2023, 11:14:33 PM
This is at the Fulton Bank in East Petersburg, PA, near the intersection of PA 72 and PA 722.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219555010386371&set=a.10219555039387096)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420261901_dd687580bd_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on October 12, 2023, 11:41:35 PM
Rather strange black and red warning sign (https://maps.app.goo.gl/XvEXfc4bhUoYfzkd6) (unofficial?) in Oakland, OR:
(https://i.imgur.com/B2SVjQK.png)

Looks like it's a substitute for "Hill Blocks View", although I like to imagine this :) (https://imgur.com/BOIzwLM)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on October 13, 2023, 09:08:12 AM
I spotted this dancing arrow (https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.6949081,-79.609911,3a,49.4y,20.46h,93.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjkBgaPguSeSbqNA4HqX1Bw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) leaving YYZ airport at the 427 in Mississauga, ON.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 13, 2023, 05:01:02 PM
Especially strange given how the other arrow on the same sign isn't cocked at an angle...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 13, 2023, 06:25:59 PM
Speaking of odd arrows, here is I-59 SB at US 49 SB (Exit 67A) in Hattiesburg, MS. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219567928429314&set=a.10216218268569911)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420691320_392ae927b4_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on October 13, 2023, 08:42:55 PM
Normally, a merging traffic sign looks like this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ui2BRASow3kPmRw26

This is on Interstate 182 eastbound in Washington, just past Exit 9. Note that this is the latest Google Maps capture from June 2023. For whatever the reason, the sign was very recently changed, which I noticed today, to a rectangular sign:

(https://i.imgur.com/Czk0l9g.png)

Took a still from my dashcam video.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 14, 2023, 05:24:28 PM
This guide on I-69 near Mayfield, Kentucky.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53258529910_52bd941d3d_c.jpg)

I think it's odd, but cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 15, 2023, 10:14:02 PM
These have probably been posted before, but the US 231 dogleg at AL 75 in Oneonta, AL, features some custom arrows underneath the US 231 shields, I guess to help reinforce the fact you have to turn left then right here:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53261526958_c5745f9ede_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xfmW)US 231/AL 75 - Oneonta, AL (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xfmW) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53260351177_728771e87f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9rdQR)US 231/AL 75 - Oneonta, AL (https://flic.kr/p/2p9rdQR) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

Going a bit further south, down onto AL 77 on the south side of Ashland, the highway here was rerouted around Wellborn Cabinet when that industry wanted to expand their plant across the old right of way. The new alignment features larger AL 77 shields, already a bit unusual for a 55 MPH 2/3-lane highway in this state, but, even more strangely, these shields seem to have had the state shape shrink a bit in the wash:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53261526773_96109e4a7a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xfiK)Unusual AL 77 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xfiK) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53261581104_7918453e96_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xwsu)Unusual AL 77 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xwsu) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53261581089_35936651c8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xwse)Unusual AL 77 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xwse) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53261581239_34f186fb13_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xwuP)Unusual AL 77 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2p9xwuP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

For reference, this is about how the above shields should look:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53261713045_ae9b2f7252_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p9ycFk)AL 77 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2p9ycFk) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 16, 2023, 12:38:39 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pUXMP6Fj7iTdjZMQ9
The FOR NJ Route 17 is very odd. I don't think any road agency besides the NJTA uses that.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/NMShaJFaVpZj7QnJA
Then two whole numbers being used for the US 9W exit while US 1-9-46 and NJ Route 4 get one whole number for two separate exits is very inconsistent.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on October 16, 2023, 01:13:17 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 07, 2023, 09:25:32 AM
The next 16 miles west of Cloudcroft on US 82 graphically illustrated:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53238706677_e40d7c68e0_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p7whFP)0 (https://flic.kr/p/2p7whFP) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
Based on my travels through that area last week, copies of that sign are plastered everywhere in the area at random locations. Some of them looked decently old.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 16, 2023, 08:09:39 AM
Odd group of signs on NC 20 at a railroad crossing in Saint Pauls, North Carolina.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8066474,-78.9710106,3a,75y,270.61h,94.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH6Oaob8gNDxKBw0prq6Quw!2e0!5s20120601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&entry=ttu


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 16, 2023, 09:29:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 11, 2023, 06:54:23 PM
This NY state park signage looks inverted to me:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53251714696_949064971a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p8EXw1)Inverted State Park Sign (https://flic.kr/p/2p8EXw1)
Faded is more like it. I've seen that with a lot of park road signs, and I'm pretty sure you have too.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 07, 2023, 09:25:32 AM
The next 16 miles west of Cloudcroft on US 82 graphically illustrated:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53238706677_e40d7c68e0_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p7whFP)0 (https://flic.kr/p/2p7whFP) by Max Rockatansky (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151828809@N08/), on Flickr
If I'm not mistaken, there are signs like that in Upstate New York too.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on October 16, 2023, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 16, 2023, 08:09:39 AM
Odd group of signs on NC 20 at a railroad crossing in Saint Pauls, North Carolina.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8066474,-78.9710106,3a,75y,270.61h,94.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH6Oaob8gNDxKBw0prq6Quw!2e0!5s20120601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&entry=ttu



The "To Train" sign is odd. The others are currently MUTCD standard.
.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 16, 2023, 10:45:50 AM
Quote from: Big John on October 16, 2023, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 16, 2023, 08:09:39 AM
Odd group of signs on NC 20 at a railroad crossing in Saint Pauls, North Carolina.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8066474,-78.9710106,3a,75y,270.61h,94.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH6Oaob8gNDxKBw0prq6Quw!2e0!5s20120601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&entry=ttu



The "To Train" sign is odd. The others are currently MUTCD standard.
.
Well, yes. I saw some other unusual ones fairly recently, but I forgot what they were.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 16, 2023, 06:48:04 PM
Charming Do Not Enter sign, Hope Cemetery on Maple Ave. (VT 14), Barre, VT.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231016/23b06461ce290725fa3876a2088ddee0.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 17, 2023, 09:50:05 AM
I like the way the City of Los Angeles still uses the street blades intended for overhead mast arm signals on a road with no overheads.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WP7axhPYHxMrfPfs9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on October 17, 2023, 08:49:53 PM
I was going around Culpeper, VA in GSV, and I found this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkjxH5XB/Screenshot-2023-10-17-8-46-27-PM.png)

At the BUS US 29/US 522/VA-3 Junction.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on October 17, 2023, 09:09:27 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 17, 2023, 09:50:05 AM
I like the way the City of Los Angeles still uses the street blades intended for overhead mast arm signals on a road with no overheads.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/WP7axhPYHxMrfPfs9

Pretty standard for LA, but they're consistent.

Meanwhile, I always liked driving to Napa Novato on the Auto Mall Columbus Parkway.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/hzvCge8oaHCMYgqJA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hbelkins on October 18, 2023, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 17, 2023, 08:49:53 PM
I was going around Culpeper, VA in GSV, and I found this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkjxH5XB/Screenshot-2023-10-17-8-46-27-PM.png)

At the BUS US 29/US 522/VA-3 Junction.

What's unique, odd, or interesting about that? Nothing I see.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 18, 2023, 01:39:34 PM
^Unnecessary punctuation for DC?   :-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on October 18, 2023, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on October 18, 2023, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on October 17, 2023, 08:49:53 PM
I was going around Culpeper, VA in GSV, and I found this:

(https://i.postimg.cc/mkjxH5XB/Screenshot-2023-10-17-8-46-27-PM.png)

At the BUS US 29/US 522/VA-3 Junction.

What's unique, odd, or interesting about that? Nothing I see.

Just looks a bit odd to me, I don't usually see arrows that long. The text also looks bad.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on October 18, 2023, 02:54:46 PM
That's just what mixed-case federal vanilla Series D looks like.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 18, 2023, 04:09:15 PM
If there's already a separate thread for these, then I didn't find it...

A local street name, stylized as a route shield:  Weber Rd, Bolingbrook, IL (https://maps.app.goo.gl/rNHYN2vYM2Vu725N9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 18, 2023, 04:09:15 PM
If there's already a separate thread for these, then I didn't find it...

A local street name, stylized as a route shield:  Weber Rd, Bolingbrook, IL (https://maps.app.goo.gl/rNHYN2vYM2Vu725N9)
Slightly related, but apparently Lee County, MS, used to sign their road names on county route shields, if this old one I found at an antique store in Tupelo is anything to go by:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53267413912_49cede317d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pa4qm9)Arrowhead Road Lee County Route Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2pa4qm9) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr

No idea where it served though, it seems Lee County went through at some point and gave all of their named roads numbers instead of names.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 18, 2023, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 04:38:51 PM
Slightly related, but apparently Lee County, MS, used to sign their road names on county route shields

Near me, Harvey County (KS) does the same for their numbered county highways:

(https://i.imgur.com/ajRqTN1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 18, 2023, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 04:38:51 PM
Slightly related, but apparently Lee County, MS, used to sign their road names on county route shields

Near me, Harvey County (KS) does the same for their numbered county highways:

(https://i.imgur.com/ajRqTN1.jpg)
Other than the cheap attempt to save a bolt/nut, I'd say that looks better than how Lee County did it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: US 89 on October 18, 2023, 05:37:17 PM
Uintah County, UT does the same thing, but also with numbers and also on their own county-outline shields:

(https://i.imgur.com/ki5lymb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on October 20, 2023, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: US 89 on October 18, 2023, 05:37:17 PM
Uintah County, UT does the same thing, but also with numbers and also on their own county-outline shields:

(https://i.imgur.com/ki5lymb.jpeg)
Looks like the old size for Suffolk County Road shields.

Okay, so I was splitting off a new Wikimedia Commons category for the World's Smallest Police Station, and I used Google Street View for additional help. In the process I noticed the combined shields for US 98 and 319 and I decided to follow the road to the southern terminus of US 319 along the John Gorrie Memorial Bridge, and I finally found the signs marking the beginning and end of the route on a small island south of Big Towhead Island. As it turns out the signs for the beginning (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7259997,-84.9714619,3a,75y,113.21h,85.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGlIHJ41vNSxGJ25qJCs72w!2e0!5s20210401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) and end of US 319 (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7260819,-84.9711684,3a,75y,275.79h,84.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2jJpj5ZyTfVn2X67K5xPqw!2e0!5s20220401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) used to be on the same signposts for US 98. Now, they're on separate posts. That's kind of a disappointment.






Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on October 20, 2023, 03:16:55 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 20, 2023, 10:01:41 AM
Okay, so I was splitting off a new Wikimedia Commons category for the World's Smallest Police Station, and I used Google Street View for additional help. In the process I noticed the combined shields for US 98 and 319 and I decided to follow the road to the southern terminus of US 319 along the John Gorrie Memorial Bridge, and I finally found the signs marking the beginning and end of the route on a small island south of Big Towhead Island. As it turns out the signs for the beginning (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7259997,-84.9714619,3a,75y,113.21h,85.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGlIHJ41vNSxGJ25qJCs72w!2e0!5s20210401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) and end of US 319 (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7260819,-84.9711684,3a,75y,275.79h,84.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2jJpj5ZyTfVn2X67K5xPqw!2e0!5s20220401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) used to be on the same signposts for US 98. Now, they're on separate posts. That's kind of a disappointment.

Gotta have some give and take, so I'll accept this.  From a photo opportunity perspective, it would be really disappointing if the separate signposts were placed a couple hundred feet apart and not together.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on October 20, 2023, 10:23:31 PM
More of an error, albeit a minor one, but random capital letter in the middle of a word: https://maps.app.goo.gl/TG4xz5d9M4iwGUa86

US Route 97 southbound in Washington before the Beebe Bridge. Not worth reporting. Northbound has it correct: https://maps.app.goo.gl/zQ2LfynyDQdtdim16
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: machias on October 21, 2023, 06:39:42 PM
I find this new installation outside of Rome, N.Y. interesting. This junction of NY Routes 26 and 365 was recently rebuilt and the overhead sign is part of the project. For the first time (that I can remember) in over three decades, NYSDOT Region 2 actually put the actual route marker first, with the "To" markers listed secondary. Good for them.  The arrows and yellow warning strips on the left hand panel are interesting

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rTnxGvjwBBhcQHqp7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 26, 2023, 07:05:10 PM
"TO ALT" basically being in one banner on US 219 BUS in Grantsville, MD.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219595293153415&set=a.10219595326354245)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419401317_1a85be3e16_c.jpg)

A backwards mileage sign on PA 26 NB just north of PA 36.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219595235471973&set=a.10219595326354245)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419403302_11bf0e7a56_c.jpg)

I do not remember posting this one along KY 620.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219164306739024&set=a.10219164370700623)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420756545_c42cc1844d_c.jpg)

I am unsure I posted this one in a shopping center next to US 27 in Lexington, KY.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219164059532844&set=a.10219164370700623)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419405642_3049416824_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PurdueBill on October 28, 2023, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 18, 2023, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 04:38:51 PM
Slightly related, but apparently Lee County, MS, used to sign their road names on county route shields

Near me, Harvey County (KS) does the same for their numbered county highways:
Other than the cheap attempt to save a bolt/nut, I'd say that looks better than how Lee County did it.

Summit County, Ohio does basically the opposite; only showing county route numbers on green sign blades with the street name.  No one except the County Engineer's office uses the route numbers anyway.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/d4pkeXhAe1Gr5B8a7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 29, 2023, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on October 28, 2023, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 05:32:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 18, 2023, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on October 18, 2023, 04:38:51 PM
Slightly related, but apparently Lee County, MS, used to sign their road names on county route shields

Near me, Harvey County (KS) does the same for their numbered county highways:
Other than the cheap attempt to save a bolt/nut, I'd say that looks better than how Lee County did it.

Summit County, Ohio does basically the opposite; only showing county route numbers on green sign blades with the street name.  No one except the County Engineer's office uses the route numbers anyway.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/d4pkeXhAe1Gr5B8a7

Georgia counties tend to do the same, though they just tack "CR #" on the end of the blade in a smaller font. IIRC, at least some counties previously used a vertical green sign with the number mounted to the back of the stop sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 29, 2023, 02:44:15 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5Cg6ZrbkoaHBzc349
This guide for US 13 Bus. On US 50 Bus. in Salisbury, MD.  Though technically correct you don't usually see these or a crossover between parallel roadways within an intersection.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on October 29, 2023, 03:44:02 PM
Umm... oops (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0184656,-74.3488789,3a,75y,168.19h,82.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMCfMprj3OLDQp_mmG6Gj4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 29, 2023, 03:45:41 PM
A couple interesting distances for these No U-TURN signs on US 6 WB west of PA 87.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615539779568&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419432987_5dc8a83763_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420784170_905a351bb7_c.jpg)

Quote from: vdeane on October 29, 2023, 03:44:02 PM
Umm... oops (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0184656,-74.3488789,3a,75y,168.19h,82.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMCfMprj3OLDQp_mmG6Gj4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?

:-D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 30, 2023, 05:06:05 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53296817961_e1c3e578a2_c.jpg)
This one is a relatively new sign with mixed case lettering on US 160 in Columbus, KS, hence the change in MUTCD to have guide signs now in that format.  However, this is not interesting or news to many of us, but what is interesting is the fact that Carthage was copied over the sign.  Carthage was on this sign originally when this part of US 160 was K-96, before US 400 took over the original alignment of US 160 further to the north.

To get to Carthage now, one must use county roads across the KS- MO State line to reach MO 96 that continues to Carthage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on October 30, 2023, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 30, 2023, 05:06:05 AM
To get to Carthage now, one must use county roads across the KS- MO State line to reach MO 96 that continues to Carthage.

To be fair, though:  to get to Carthage from there, you don't even have to turn off the road at all.  It's a straight shot.  US-160 becomes Old K-96, which becomes MO-SSR-YY, which becomes MO-96, which becomes Inca Rd, which becomes Oak St, which goes to downtown Carthage.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tuurS9292GdhX7uo7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on October 30, 2023, 03:05:36 PM
Nothing too special, but for this elk crossing area, one side is a picture and one side is text: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MhdbRpUpaFjzFbL78

Interstate 90 eastbound at milepost 130 in Washington.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on October 30, 2023, 06:37:15 PM
This one here is a wrong way concurrency where the routes are shielded in the form of the compass.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53298806368_c70e4e0daa_k.jpg)
The north route on top with the west direction route on the bottom left and the east route on the bottom right.

Usually the arrangement is in lowest to highest denomination, but here I think its neat KDOT considered the orientation of the three routes travel and signed to imply what way is facing what.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kendancy66 on October 30, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
Can anyone determine what this sign is for?

https://www.google.com/maps/@10.6888933,122.9720595,3a,15y,180.21h,87.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sovEtVF9H5Rjh55UNHrakwA!2e0!5s20230401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

If you look back at older street views of this location, there is a 10 ton weight limit sign that is there, instead of the current one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2023, 08:46:49 PM
NY 79 WB has this interesting sign heading towards Ithaca.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615593860920&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53412398942_f89f940025_c.jpg)

On OH 11 NB near I-80 WB in Youngstown.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217818795422082&set=a.10217819107389881)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420689734_f7bb59a97f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on October 30, 2023, 09:48:49 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on October 30, 2023, 08:46:49 PMNY 79 WB has this interesting sign heading towards Ithaca.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615593860920&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/397146279_10219615593780918_6600804503971384809_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=9TCFQsXP9TwAX8jaB9G&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAWbJJmPlQv376ECDnujp4WGhqMXRP7Tr7q9Uvri401-w&oe=654548D5)

This sign is definitely interesting.

I researched the context in a little more detail since I have a long-term project to compile a canonical list of hill descent map signs.  It appears there is no such sign at the brake check area referenced on the white-on-blue sign.  The descent into Ithaca proper begins shortly after passing Pine Tree Road, and I don't see any evidence of runaway truck ramps in Google Maps satellite imagery.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on October 30, 2023, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: kendancy66 on October 30, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
Can anyone determine what this sign is for?

https://www.google.com/maps/@10.6888933,122.9720595,3a,15y,180.21h,87.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sovEtVF9H5Rjh55UNHrakwA!2e0!5s20230401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

If you look back at older street views of this location, there is a 10 ton weight limit sign that is there, instead of the current one.

Unless I miss my guess, it's the same 10 ton weight limit sign, just deteriorating very rapidly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on October 31, 2023, 06:32:42 AM
QuoteI researched the context in a little more detail since I have a long-term project to compile a canonical list of hill descent map signs.  It appears there is no such sign at the brake check area referenced on the white-on-blue sign.  The descent into Ithaca proper begins shortly after passing Pine Tree Road, and I don't see any evidence of runaway truck ramps in Google Maps satellite imagery.

That is correct.  I did not see any runaway truck ramps heading west into Ithaca on NY 79.

OH 711 NB .5 miles south of Gypsy Lane and Belmont Ave in Youngstown, OH.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217818851023472&set=a.10217819107389881)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420539243_44a1089f96_c.jpg)

OH 711 NB at I-80 EB (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217818854343555&set=a.10217819107389881)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420703334_48191eb598_c.jpg)

Whites Hollow Rd at Station Rd in Watkins Glen, NY (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615741024599&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420708899_04d75d8f73_c.jpg)

And further east on Station Rd (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615743144652&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420548458_f572c637e6_c.jpg)

Leaving Watkins Glen International  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615629021799&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419466642_56b543d3ba_c.jpg)

On NY 14 SB in Horseheads (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615622501636&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419467632_4454f4cb6a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kendancy66 on October 31, 2023, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: FrCorySticha on October 30, 2023, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: kendancy66 on October 30, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
Can anyone determine what this sign is for?

https://www.google.com/maps/@10.6888933,122.9720595,3a,15y,180.21h,87.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sovEtVF9H5Rjh55UNHrakwA!2e0!5s20230401T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

If you look back at older street views of this location, there is a 10 ton weight limit sign that is there, instead of the current one.

Unless I miss my guess, it's the same 10 ton weight limit sign, just deteriorating very rapidly.

Reviewing this again.  Forgot to mention that sign on the Dec 2015 street view, did not have the Red Slash (only red circle).    Has anyone seen a Red Slash on a Weight Limit sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 01, 2023, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: kendancy66 on October 31, 2023, 10:29:51 PM
Forgot to mention that sign on the Dec 2015 street view, did not have the Red Slash (only red circle).    Has anyone seen a Red Slash on a Weight Limit sign?

I noticed that too.  "10-ton load limits are prohibited" ?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 01, 2023, 03:10:26 PM
It looks to me like the sign is a reused No Something or Other sign that got repainted to be a weight limit sign, but then the weight limit part flaked off. Like what you see happening in Kentucky.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 02, 2023, 03:43:53 PM
Idaho has these unique US 12 shields in Lewiston. This is the only one I can remember at the moment, though it might be the only one: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ySBGjdNGeM4KrvZo9

Looks like there used to be one here in 2007 and 2008, but it's since been updated with the proper shield:
Before: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5idpmwTp8y7wUAXa8
Now: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4zEzYSgiUn9GqYQ98

EDIT: Here's another one: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uWLVyiJdAcbnc9ph8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 02, 2023, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: Amaury on November 02, 2023, 03:43:53 PM
Idaho has these unique US 12 shields in Lewiston. This is the only one I can remember at the moment, though it might be the only one: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ySBGjdNGeM4KrvZo9

Looks like there used to be one here in 2007 and 2008, but it's since been updated with the proper shield:
Before: https://maps.app.goo.gl/5idpmwTp8y7wUAXa8
Now: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4zEzYSgiUn9GqYQ98

EDIT: Here's another one: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uWLVyiJdAcbnc9ph8

It's scenic byway signage, right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 02, 2023, 04:11:23 PM
I'm not sure. The only thing I notice is that between the junction with Main Street and the junction with D Street, Google Maps also shows the road as Levee Bypass, though I'm not sure if that's referring to an actual levee or the name of something, because I don't see any nearby communities with that name. The Levee Bypass designation on Google Maps also continues to Snake River Avenue, though the road between D Street and Snake River Avenue isn't US 12, unless it's a spur route.

EDIT: Oh, wait. Never mind on that not being US 12. It is, but just for eastbound, though eastbound technically has a gap in it in Lewiston.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: swake on November 02, 2023, 05:22:53 PM
Here's one that bugs me, seems very confusing:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2203891,-96.3874353,3a,49.8y,272.27h,85.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sC_P85Gp76L0A4McCnxPHig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 02, 2023, 05:33:29 PM
^^ It could definitely be arranged better, but I could figure it out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 02, 2023, 09:02:24 PM
The thing that bothers me the most is that the part of the state outline inside the 8's counter space is not knocked out the way it should be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 05, 2023, 08:26:00 PM
Have you closed your flight plan?  Access road to the hangar crosses a grass strip at Skaneateles Aerodrome:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53312617923_8ea745c803_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pe46VD)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 05, 2023, 08:43:38 PM
Wow, that's hilarious!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 05, 2023, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: Amaury on November 05, 2023, 08:43:38 PM
Wow, that's hilarious!

Yeah, my pilot son got a kick out of it.  I think I've seen this sign at other airports as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 05, 2023, 10:14:33 PM
Caltrans tries to get Craig County to hold its beer.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/UJkT2jJzjZar96YM9

How many numbered addresses exist on Interstate highways? Other than actual surface streets like Wyoming I-180 or Breezewood-like setups.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/D9kRqagHznqvb6bm7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 06, 2023, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on November 05, 2023, 10:14:33 PM
How many numbered addresses exist on Interstate highways? Other than actual surface streets like Wyoming I-180 or Breezewood-like setups.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/D9kRqagHznqvb6bm7

Different states do these things differently.

The businesses in the median of I-44 near Walters (OK) have an address of 21 H. E. Bailey Turnpike.  The ones near Chickasha have an address of 1896 H. E. Bailey Turnpike.

And the businesses along I-70 just east of Topeka (KS) have an address of 8000 SE Interstate 70.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 07, 2023, 12:19:23 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53314611654
Not MUTCD compliant and most likely a city install and not MoDOT either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 07, 2023, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2023, 12:19:23 AM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53314611654
Not MUTCD compliant and most likely a city install and not MoDOT either.

On the bright side, at least it's more legible than most signage cities install of that nature...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 07, 2023, 06:30:08 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7Ndhe1WJABHAvvGq7
Bridge date stamped 2024 already.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 07, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2023, 06:30:08 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7Ndhe1WJABHAvvGq7
Bridge date stamped 2024 already.

That's going to drive roadgeeks nuts in 70 years.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 07, 2023, 12:44:39 PM
A hospital shield on the guide sign.  (I-74 EB at US 231 (Exit 34) in Crawfordsville, IN)  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219643788565770&set=a.10219643911688848)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420563628_e0a250b5a3_c.jpg)

I-74 EB at I-465 NB/US 136 WB in Indianapolis.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219643795565945&set=a.10219643911688848)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419485712_e3f81ec299_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 08, 2023, 11:45:03 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/w6PdRkQrdqHFR1268
Downtown Newark guide on traffic signal pole with the city skyline on it. Those were common in Newark to direct you downtown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 08, 2023, 02:26:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 07, 2023, 09:25:17 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 07, 2023, 06:30:08 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7Ndhe1WJABHAvvGq7
Bridge date stamped 2024 already.

That's going to drive roadgeeks nuts in 70 years.

Where's that AARoads Topics in 2093 thread?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 08, 2023, 04:58:34 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53316402485/
Weight Limit 55 Tons? Are there really any semis over 55 tons out there?

Considering Missouri is the only place they're around, unless HI or MT have them also( as I haven't yet been to those places), means probably not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 08, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 08, 2023, 04:58:34 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53316402485/
Weight Limit 55 Tons? Are there really any semis over 55 tons out there?

Considering Missouri is the only place they're around, unless HI or MT have them also( as I haven't yet been to those places), means probably not.

The only place what are around?  Semis or weight limits?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 08, 2023, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 08, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 08, 2023, 04:58:34 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53316402485/
Weight Limit 55 Tons? Are there really any semis over 55 tons out there?

Considering Missouri is the only place they're around, unless HI or MT have them also( as I haven't yet been to those places), means probably not.

The only place what are around?  Semis or weight limits?

Missouri also posts 60 ton limits, but I don't think I've seen higher limits...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51483086553_e0d92c618f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mrogZk)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53166328751_908b3366c0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2p18kfx)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 08, 2023, 08:18:58 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 08, 2023, 04:58:34 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53316402485/
Weight Limit 55 Tons? Are there really any semis over 55 tons out there?

Considering Missouri is the only place they're around, unless HI or MT have them also( as I haven't yet been to those places), means probably not.
I'm guessing the equivalent New York sign would be "no trucks with R permits (https://www.dot.ny.gov/gisapps/posted-bridges/r-posted-bridge-limitation)".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 09, 2023, 10:15:34 AM
(https://i.redd.it/vew7tc926vr51.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on November 09, 2023, 11:10:44 AM
I also love this version :-D
(https://i.imgur.com/bTlQlfRl.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 09, 2023, 11:14:24 AM
^^ Except the first panel depicts a spandrel arch bridge and not a truss bridge.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on November 09, 2023, 11:16:45 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 09, 2023, 11:14:24 AM
^^ Except the first panel depicts a spandrel arch bridge and not a truss bridge.

You win.  :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 09, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
Nobody builds trusses anymore, unless there's a historical requirement... :D
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 09, 2023, 11:27:41 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
Nobody builds trusses anymore, unless there's a historical requirement... :D
Because they're fracture critical and there is no room for future expansion unless you are really creative.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on November 09, 2023, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on November 05, 2023, 10:14:33 PM
How many numbered addresses exist on Interstate highways? Other than actual surface streets like Wyoming I-180 or Breezewood-like setups.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/D9kRqagHznqvb6bm7

The Michigan State Police Post in St. Ignace, MI has an address on I-75.
St. Ignace Post No. 83
N430 I-75
St. Ignace, MI 49781
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Michigan+State+Police+St.+Ignace+Post/@45.848505,-84.7251417,238m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x4d35f5cd4366e097:0x4c03f50cef0f1b6e!8m2!3d45.8483483!4d-84.7248192!16s%2Fg%2F11ddx2r8fv?entry=ttu
Not to mention, the Mackinac Bridge Authority is located right across the highway, also on I-75.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: rellis97 on November 09, 2023, 07:56:11 PM
Here's an interesting sign! This is on Grand Blanc Rd heading east toward town. It looks like it's many decades old.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9151489,-83.6716736,3a,21.4y,124.45h,85.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s311aEN_JCcbMHcvvbNxTJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53321913355_5604e7897a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2peSK8H)Bicentennial Recreation Complex sign (https://flic.kr/p/2peSK8H) by Ross Ellis (https://www.flickr.com/photos/189277409@N08/), on Flickrimg][/img]
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 09, 2023, 07:58:04 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on November 05, 2023, 10:14:33 PM

How many numbered addresses exist on Interstate highways? Other than actual surface streets like Wyoming I-180 or Breezewood-like setups.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/D9kRqagHznqvb6bm7
Recent thread on this: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=33310.0
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420581283_141fb10f0e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 09, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)

(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/366043228_10219189033317173_9063306309818106820_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=3nzUQO1eOrwAX9mTcAS&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfB5KFAMVY4EOZXaD40qMjZ0xqiKwTQ0bDut_fxf31lAgQ&oe=6552106B)
The Glens Falls (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095778,-73.6436306,3a,34.5y,206.44h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQm1cYsWf7dcUiV7Ow-IwYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) version is more intuitive, though I'm not sure why it's orange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on November 09, 2023, 08:52:57 PM
^^ Uhhh... Why does that sign say 75 North? The right turn movement there is a local unnumbered street. And looking back at the 75 junction a couple blocks back, there is literally a big truck in the left-turn lane on Street view. There is no reason they'd have to come down here. What a bizarre sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 09, 2023, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
Nobody builds trusses anymore, unless there's a historical requirement... :D

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mESpNNeDnusdfFNt5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 09, 2023, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 09, 2023, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2023, 11:25:58 AM
Nobody builds trusses anymore, unless there's a historical requirement... :D

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mESpNNeDnusdfFNt5
Yup.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on November 09, 2023, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: Big John on November 09, 2023, 11:14:24 AM
^^ Except the first panel depicts a spandrel arch bridge and not a truss bridge.
Perhaps this version is better :)
(https://i.redd.it/o2o5od10adzb1.jpg) (https://i.redd.it/o2o5od10adzb1.jpg)

Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)
The Glens Falls (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095778,-73.6436306,3a,34.5y,206.44h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQm1cYsWf7dcUiV7Ow-IwYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) version is more intuitive, though I'm not sure why it's orange.
What does the "L" suffix stand for (if anything)? I assumed "A" would be alternate and "N" north but I can't think of any "L" directions.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 09, 2023, 11:10:34 PM
^^ Spandrel arches generally do not use steel construction either.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cockroachking on November 09, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on November 09, 2023, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)
The Glens Falls (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095778,-73.6436306,3a,34.5y,206.44h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQm1cYsWf7dcUiV7Ow-IwYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) version is more intuitive, though I'm not sure why it's orange.
What does the "L" suffix stand for (if anything)? I assumed "A" would be alternate and "N" north but I can't think of any "L" directions.
NY alphabet soup: Back in 1930, the suffixes generally progressed from A in the south/west to the n-th letter of the alphabet in the north/east for n-number of suffixed routes from a parent. Since then, as routes have been added/decommissioned/renumbered, the pattern is much less recognizable.

That said, you could make a case for L as in Lake George, but I don't believe that was the original intention.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on November 10, 2023, 12:19:49 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on October 02, 2023, 03:39:43 PM
I don't see why it would, because it's better to have the sign hang off the ledge (though it would be hell to pick it up in case of a bad move when putting it up).

They could temporarily secure the sign with a cord through one of the screw holes until the screw through the other screw hole is in place...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on November 10, 2023, 12:26:38 AM
Quote from: Big John on November 09, 2023, 11:10:34 PM
^^ Spandrel arches generally do not use steel construction either.

The bridge in the cartoon might be reinforced concrete with a cut stone facade.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 10, 2023, 09:30:45 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)

(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/366043228_10219189033317173_9063306309818106820_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=3nzUQO1eOrwAX9mTcAS&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfB5KFAMVY4EOZXaD40qMjZ0xqiKwTQ0bDut_fxf31lAgQ&oe=6552106B)

I would interpret that to mean that I have to drive on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 10, 2023, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 17, 2023, 10:59:25 PM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on July 17, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on July 16, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: SilverMustang2011 on July 16, 2023, 09:01:45 PM
I-75 Exit 358 in Florida is the combination of a small exit sign and no control cities or towns listed for the route, neither of which are common in FL:

https://goo.gl/maps/DKnkFFgdQcWnL81J9

This interchange is pretty busy too, since people get on/off it to/from 301 to cut northeast/southwest across the state, but I guess Florida didn't want to sign Blitchton (West) or Silver Springs (East).

It's still better than this. (https://goo.gl/maps/muDGEyAg2CaVX4PC8)

There's a couple of those mystery exits along US 101 in California, mostly around Monterey and SLO counties.

The first example is weird for Florida, where there's almost always a town or named/numbered road used with a guide sign. And it's been that way for about 25 years, without any control cities or road labeling. I-10 also had a weird exception for CR 257, figuring Aucilla was too small, perhaps?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8237/28565713004_80a0d037cb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KwfKgb)
Regarding this discussion from back in July, here's another exit sign without control cities on I-10.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Florida_I10wb_exit_217_1_mile.jpg/640px-Florida_I10wb_exit_217_1_mile.jpg)
Of course, the solution is obvious;
Lloyd
Wacissa
Not as well-known as Tallahassee and Monticello, but at least it's not a repeat of them.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 10, 2023, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: cockroachking on November 09, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on November 09, 2023, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)
The Glens Falls (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095778,-73.6436306,3a,34.5y,206.44h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQm1cYsWf7dcUiV7Ow-IwYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) version is more intuitive, though I'm not sure why it's orange.
What does the "L" suffix stand for (if anything)? I assumed "A" would be alternate and "N" north but I can't think of any "L" directions.
NY alphabet soup: Back in 1930, the suffixes generally progressed from A in the south/west to the n-th letter of the alphabet in the north/east for n-number of suffixed routes from a parent. Since then, as routes have been added/decommissioned/renumbered, the pattern is much less recognizable.

That said, you could make a case for L as in Lake George, but I don't believe that was the original intention.
Yeah, NY suffixed routes aren't like interstate and US route suffixes, even if some longer ones act like them (except NY doesn't do route splits).  They're more like child routes, functioning as a kind of hybrid of how 3dus and 3di routes work.  They often take the place of what in other states would be alternate/business/bypass routes (even the ones that aren't A or B), but not always.  Even US 9W has been forced to conform to the NY system, with US 9E (mostly) becoming plain old US 9 fairly early on.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on November 10, 2023, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 10, 2023, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: cockroachking on November 09, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
Quote from: CovalenceSTU on November 09, 2023, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2023, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 09, 2023, 08:21:53 PM
I am not sure I would understand this sign if I was a truck driver.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219189033397175&set=a.10219189243802435)
The Glens Falls (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.3095778,-73.6436306,3a,34.5y,206.44h,89.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQm1cYsWf7dcUiV7Ow-IwYQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) version is more intuitive, though I'm not sure why it's orange.
What does the "L" suffix stand for (if anything)? I assumed "A" would be alternate and "N" north but I can't think of any "L" directions.
NY alphabet soup: Back in 1930, the suffixes generally progressed from A in the south/west to the n-th letter of the alphabet in the north/east for n-number of suffixed routes from a parent. Since then, as routes have been added/decommissioned/renumbered, the pattern is much less recognizable.

That said, you could make a case for L as in Lake George, but I don't believe that was the original intention.
Yeah, NY suffixed routes aren't like interstate and US route suffixes, even if some longer ones act like them (except NY doesn't do route splits).  They're more like child routes, functioning as a kind of hybrid of how 3dus and 3di routes work.  They often take the place of what in other states would be alternate/business/bypass routes (even the ones that aren't A or B), but not always.  Even US 9W has been forced to conform to the NY system, with US 9E (mostly) becoming plain old US 9 fairly early on.
It seems Florida may have once done a similar thing, given that FL 30E branches off of FL30A in Gulf County, with FL 30A itself branching off of US 98 (FL 30) there.

Unrelated to the above, but the "New Towns Every Hour" Twitter account recently posted this tweet showcasing Chunky, MS.
https://twitter.com/TownsUsa/status/1723199867793608754
What my eye was immediately drawn to was this exit sign for the town, which I feel sucks:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-oJItPW4AA4pU-?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on November 11, 2023, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 10, 2023, 11:51:11 PMUnrelated to the above, but the "New Towns Every Hour" Twitter account recently posted this tweet showcasing Chunky, MS.
https://twitter.com/TownsUsa/status/1723199867793608754
What my eye was immediately drawn to was this exit sign for the town, which I feel sucks:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-oJItPW4AA4pU-?format=jpg&name=large)

Not much better eastbound on I-20, in 2018:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/974/41820916631_8903e5c11e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26Hz8uK)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 11, 2023, 02:49:29 PM
The way Missouri signs a city limit with it before the corporate municipality and not after. 
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53316173493_e601cc1b13_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on November 11, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
Not "state speed limit 55".  Not "end 30 mph limit". "End speed limit 30" (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6406869,-73.9904207,3a,17.6y,168.52h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQhL8WAfwv2xtzKmbDGJrEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), complete with an end banner for route shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 11, 2023, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 11, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
Not "state speed limit 55".  Not "end 30 mph limit". "End speed limit 30" (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6406869,-73.9904207,3a,17.6y,168.52h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQhL8WAfwv2xtzKmbDGJrEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), complete with an end banner for route shields.

Virginia does a similar thing on many of its Secondary Routes, but all on one sign, and it says MILE SPEED.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rHhw2L6jKm6BfXTh6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 12, 2023, 06:54:20 AM
I suppose signs and signposts like this are more common in the Northern Rockies:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8273584,-111.2432992,3a,15y,179.11h,93.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stjA6xCgaTaC_sZrXsGQlpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.8273584,-111.2432992,3a,15y,179.11h,93.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stjA6xCgaTaC_sZrXsGQlpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&entry=ttu)

But anyway, all I was really looking for was the location of this sign;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/20110720_USA_%2864%29.JPG/640px-20110720_USA_%2864%29.JPG)
It would be helpful in order to give the image a better name.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 12, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
Quote from: formulanone on November 11, 2023, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 10, 2023, 11:51:11 PMUnrelated to the above, but the "New Towns Every Hour" Twitter account recently posted this tweet showcasing Chunky, MS.
https://twitter.com/TownsUsa/status/1723199867793608754
What my eye was immediately drawn to was this exit sign for the town, which I feel sucks:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-oJItPW4AA4pU-?format=jpg&name=large)

Not much better eastbound on I-20, in 2018:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/974/41820916631_8903e5c11e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26Hz8uK)
It would almost be funnier if that tanker truck in front of you was hauling some chunky liquid.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 12, 2023, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 11, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
Not "state speed limit 55".  Not "end 30 mph limit". "End speed limit 30" (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6406869,-73.9904207,3a,17.6y,168.52h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQhL8WAfwv2xtzKmbDGJrEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), complete with an end banner for route shields.

PA on US 1 in Chester County, PA also signs an END Speed Limit 45 sign rather than post the speed limit is 55 mph. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53325321104
This is interesting. On another note, all signs but the pull through have EXIT ONLY arrows on US 71 at the Alphabet Loop interchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DSS5 on November 13, 2023, 10:34:53 AM
I was looking through posts from when I was last active on this forum years upon years ago, and apparently at the time this sign (which hadn't been put up yet, I'd posted an article that a rendering of it) was controversial for unclear wording.

NC-194 in Vilas, NC

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwataugaroads.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2F194-sign.jpg.jpg&hash=93e01789b117cb9663bf27723255daab3720f36e)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kirbykart on November 13, 2023, 10:56:05 AM
Quote from: plain on November 11, 2023, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 11, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
Not "state speed limit 55".  Not "end 30 mph limit". "End speed limit 30" (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6406869,-73.9904207,3a,17.6y,168.52h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQhL8WAfwv2xtzKmbDGJrEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), complete with an end banner for route shields.

Virginia does a similar thing on many of its Secondary Routes, but all on one sign, and it says MILE SPEED.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rHhw2L6jKm6BfXTh6

New York has one of those too, in Cherry Creek.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xfFiTq2EibaDLnLu9 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/xfFiTq2EibaDLnLu9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on November 13, 2023, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: kirbykart on November 13, 2023, 10:56:05 AM
Quote from: plain on November 11, 2023, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 11, 2023, 04:10:48 PM
Not "state speed limit 55".  Not "end 30 mph limit". "End speed limit 30" (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.6406869,-73.9904207,3a,17.6y,168.52h,87.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQhL8WAfwv2xtzKmbDGJrEw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), complete with an end banner for route shields.

Virginia does a similar thing on many of its Secondary Routes, but all on one sign, and it says MILE SPEED.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rHhw2L6jKm6BfXTh6

New York has one of those too, in Cherry Creek.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xfFiTq2EibaDLnLu9 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/xfFiTq2EibaDLnLu9)
It's an old standard that went away with the 1971 MUTCD, Oregon used to have a bunch but the only survivor I know of isn't on GSV:
(https://i.imgur.com/cj3KHOc.jpg)

Recently they've been using "END SPEED ZONE", here's one (https://maps.app.goo.gl/EK3GMckZ2wTa35hu8) that replaced an "END 30 M.P.H. SPEED ZONE" (plus another with wide spacing):
(https://i.imgur.com/84gtIyX.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/PR7ypqf.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/uqYtnLY.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: DRMan on November 13, 2023, 02:49:36 PM
Quote from: DSS5 on November 13, 2023, 10:34:53 AM
I was looking through posts from when I was last active on this forum years upon years ago, and apparently at the time this sign (which hadn't been put up yet, I'd posted an article that a rendering of it) was controversial for unclear wording.

NC-194 in Vilas, NC

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwataugaroads.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2F194-sign.jpg.jpg&hash=93e01789b117cb9663bf27723255daab3720f36e)

The message is OK but it's basically a run-on sentence. They could make the sign wider and make the bottom part two lines instead of three.

THRU TRACTOR-TRAILERS PROHIBITED
TURN AROUND AND FOLLOW TRUCK ROUTE
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 13, 2023, 05:13:20 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hEm5uJZEKajRHoPZ7
The guide signs at Exit 2 of the Atlantic City Expressway in New Jersey.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 13, 2023, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 13, 2023, 05:13:20 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hEm5uJZEKajRHoPZ7
The guide signs at Exit 2 of the Atlantic City Expressway in New Jersey.
I'm going to $1 Million Grand Prize.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 13, 2023, 08:01:52 PM
Allowing advertising on freeway right-of-way?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 13, 2023, 10:26:53 PM
Quote from: cockroachking on November 09, 2023, 11:29:26 PM
That said, you could make a case for L as in Lake George, but I don't believe that was the original intention.
Case in point, the argument I always had not only for reviving NY 27A east of the Oakdale Merge, but upgrading Suffolk CR 36 into NY 27B for Bellport, and upgrading Suffolk CR 98 into NY 27C, for Center Moriches.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 13, 2023, 10:34:16 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 13, 2023, 05:13:20 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hEm5uJZEKajRHoPZ7
The guide signs at Exit 2 of the Atlantic City Expressway in New Jersey.

There is a surprisingly large amount of garbage going on here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 13, 2023, 11:01:34 PM
Just in case anybody is still interested, I used SignMaker to create new versions of signs along I-10 in Florida at Exits 217 and 233 with control cities. If anyone wants me to post them, let me know.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on November 14, 2023, 12:37:59 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 13, 2023, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 13, 2023, 05:13:20 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hEm5uJZEKajRHoPZ7
The guide signs at Exit 2 of the Atlantic City Expressway in New Jersey.
I'm going to $1 Million Grand Prize.

That's my kind of control city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on November 14, 2023, 06:59:48 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 13, 2023, 11:01:34 PM
Just in case anybody is still interested, I used SignMaker to create new versions of signs along I-10 in Florida at Exits 217 and 233 with control cities. If anyone wants me to post them, let me know.
Weird thread to post this in.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: JoePCool14 on November 14, 2023, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on November 13, 2023, 11:01:34 PM
Just in case anybody is still interested, I used SignMaker to create new versions of signs along I-10 in Florida at Exits 217 and 233 with control cities. If anyone wants me to post them, let me know.

Post them in Redesign this! in Road-related Illustrations.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 14, 2023, 02:43:17 PM
On St. Charles Pkwy in Waldorf, MD.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219659491998346&set=a.10219659690883318)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420439721_3866fffa41_c.jpg)

Farther south on the same road in White Plains, MD.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219659494158400&set=a.10219659690883318)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420759479_800bec018a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420599473_f057cd7190_c.jpg)

On I-64 EB/I-95 SB in Richmond (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219659597760990&set=a.10219659690883318)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419519757_85369ec07c_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219659671802841&set=a.10219659690883318)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419521472_58b66912cc_c.jpg)

Providence Rd west of US 460 in Suffolk, VA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219660505663687&set=a.10219660683028121)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419521947_3c42e4878a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Dirt Roads on November 15, 2023, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 14, 2023, 02:43:17 PM

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219659671802841&set=a.10219659690883318)
(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/401278128_10219659671762840_868079239318532358_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=cu7vc2sR1yYAX9awgCB&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAnKZ3USP1J-IBngfE4he6QTlXTFs_ZwYvYaJychgIeQA&oe=6558E11C)


Ooh!  This is a carryover from the old Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike.  I-64/I-95 eastbound comes down a fairly steep grade around the back side of downtown where it hit the "last mainline tollbooth" at the Belvidere Street exit on the RPT (when you are going this direction, it was actually the first tollbooth heading southbound on the RPT).  There were several signs in approach to this RPT tollbooth for truckers to check their brakes, as well as this no-so-perfectly placed Emergency Pulloff.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 15, 2023, 12:43:19 PM
QuoteOoh!  This is a carryover from the old Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike.  I-64/I-95 eastbound comes down a fairly steep grade around the back side of downtown where it hit the "last mainline tollbooth" at the Belvidere Street exit on the RPT (when you are going this direction, it was actually the first tollbooth heading southbound on the RPT).  There were several signs in approach to this RPT tollbooth for truckers to check their brakes, as well as this no-so-perfectly placed Emergency Pulloff.

I posted it specifically because the sign is green, but yes you are correct.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on November 16, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
When your stop sign is faded so you mount a smaller one under it (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2119382,-77.4724274,3a,75y,281.72h,69.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDQMyAGGYaAErcWVAYRabpQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=0&entry=ttu)

This is at a Lowes in Webster, NY
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 16, 2023, 05:43:49 PM
On US 64 WB approaching NC 32 in Plymouth.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219660544904668&set=a.10219660683028121)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419538172_9f9fcd1be5_c.jpg)

On US 64 WB between Jamesville and Williamston  (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/edit/a.10219660683028121)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420891300_bae135137b_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419540662_52e7e3ef21_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 16, 2023, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: Amaury on September 18, 2023, 03:58:08 PMOdd spacing between the numbers in this exit gore point for Exit 25 in both directions on Interstate 90 in Washington:

Westbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/EPa8mUbTG942e8Rx5
Eastbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/WLQ8pVFVeCP31b5A8

Additionally, at the same location, for the westbound entrance ramp, there used to be an exit ramp off of that entrance ramp that just looped back to Snoqualmie Parkway, which is weird, because you would have just gotten there by just taking Exit 25, so I don't know why they had that: https://maps.app.goo.gl/NvVAQ52fjhanFtH48

It's still there, but is not officially used, with the guide sign and everything taken down: https://maps.app.goo.gl/mqCs4Y89G3Sr9cFP7 And in 2022, it was barricaded: https://maps.app.goo.gl/gRPJzzgmzefuXYzN7

Here it is on the Snoqualmie Parkway end when it was active: https://maps.app.goo.gl/bwEgYsasTV2CCK3R9 And currently: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Gg8XLLvk1v8tYpH96 It also used to be barricaded, as seen by the 2021 and 2022 captures: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KAZFvhAEicYM9TFb7

This is like this on Exit 22 as well, also in Washington: https://maps.app.goo.gl/s8sk3CfDZ1yUd6jn6

On this one, however, it's only on the westbound side, unlike Exit 25. Eastbound is normal: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Z9ryzCT1keDzRayq9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 16, 2023, 07:34:53 PM
A cone protecting an exit gore point sign on I-90 westbound in Washington: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GYUvucDZkJBa2WbA9

There are a couple others like this, just can't remember which ones off the top of my head.

I know that mileposts and exit numbers are independent of each other, at least here in the US, or at least here in Washington, and an Exit 3, for example, isn't based on milepost 3. Although I did read something that said exits are based on the nearest milepost, which I know sounds contradictory, but I'm not too sure.

In any case, I still find this interesting.

When exits and mile markers don't match, I-90 westbound Exit 85 in Washington: https://maps.app.goo.gl/kFKsGz9dc9pfi8bs7
When exits and mile markers match, I-90 eastbound Exit 20 in Washington: https://maps.app.goo.gl/zHfvxAxrXssgERd27

There's at least one other example of those matching, but I can't remember which one.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 16, 2023, 08:03:15 PM
US 64 ALT (Tarboro) WB at McCaskey Rd in Williamston, NC.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219660646347204&set=a.10219660683028121)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420633803_649836894f_c.jpg)

US 13 SB/US 64 WB approaching US 64 ALT in Everetts (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219660651347329&set=a.10219660683028121)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420478696_6e0dfa00b9_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on November 16, 2023, 08:20:41 PM
Quote from: Amaury on November 16, 2023, 07:34:53 PMI know that mileposts and exit numbers are independent of each other, at least here in the US, or at least here in Washington, and an Exit 3, for example, isn't based on milepost 3. Although I did read something that said exits are based on the nearest milepost, which I know sounds contradictory, but I'm not too sure.

Per § 2E.31 (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2e.htm) of the MUTCD, exit numbering in the US is to be distance-based.  Neither of the examples you posted is anomalous--an exit number often won't match the milepost exactly (even if the latter is mounted right below the gore sign) since the number is based on the milepoint of the crossroad.

I have never heard that Washington state has used any exit numbering system other than distance-based.  Many states--Colorado being the westernmost such I am aware of--did used to number exits sequentially and a few of these are still in the process of converting to distance-based.  There can also be some flakiness near route termini depending on whether a given state allows an Exit 0 (some do, some don't).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on November 17, 2023, 03:21:42 AM
Distance based. Okay, Thank you. That's the one I couldn't think of. But in any case, that's why I find those two examples funny since they're just coincidences.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 17, 2023, 11:25:53 AM
In the ugly category, a Maximum 70 sign reused to be a Maximum 50 sign, but whoever changed the number didn't consider using a number of the same size, or cutting it right:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53338234830_effbb851bf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pgjoWs)Weird font on a Maximum 50 sign, Lévis (https://flic.kr/p/2pgjoWs) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 17, 2023, 05:14:29 PM
At Sheetz in Petersburg, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663417096471&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420483476_ca7724e1e6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on November 17, 2023, 07:01:21 PM
Found in Webster, NY.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1966459,-77.4845586,3a,15y,23.11h,82.27t,0.36r/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sh0V_DT6AiN_BOro2viMaHw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu

SENSIBLE SALTING REQURES SENSIBLE DRIVING

The Town of Webster puts these signs up every winter.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 18, 2023, 08:41:39 AM
Somewhere in Lévis, a blind left turn followed by a forced right at an intersection results in this unique sign:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53337915156_88b0dc0afc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pghKUQ)Forced switchbacks, Lévis (https://flic.kr/p/2pghKUQ) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on November 18, 2023, 03:39:27 PM
Crossposted from the Atlanta thread...

My mind is blown. 

First, some good news: The entire ramp from southbound GA 400 to westbound I-285 is being restriped for two lanes, including the tie-in to 285. This puts an end to the infuriating lack of a two-lane ramp for this heavy movement, leading to needless backups for most of the day. Yay, I guess, though the one-lane tie-in to 285 could've been done months ago. Thanks for wasting our time, GDOT. Further upstream, the southbound 400 CD is now its final three lanes, with two dandy APLs for the three-to-two-plus-two split.

However, the overhead signage for the 285-Roswell Road split is now a four-arrow overhead for a three-lane roadway. WTF? Either GDOT wants to cram more lanes where they won't fit before this $1.5 billion project is even done, or the plans are screwed up. Given that there are only three lanes upstream from here-- two for the ramp from southbound 400, one for the ramp for northbound 400 to Roswell Road-- I think the latter is more plausible.

(https://i.imgur.com/D4Eg1Br.jpg)

Previously, the 285 sign wasn't there. The Roswell Road sign is pretty decently aligned over the two right lanes-- that's not a given with GDOT-- and I therefore assumed that the eventual 285 sign would have a single arrow. Between that and the inexplicable delay in opening the two-lane tie-in to 285, I don't feel stupid for not seeing this coming.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 18, 2023, 07:07:10 PM
On US 460 WB near SR 726 in Lynchburg, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663543299626&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420648273_2a164831d6_c.jpg)

And as we get closer to US 29 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663545339677&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420493266_a376b1bdc3_c.jpg)

US 29 NB has a mileage sign north of US 60 in Amherst, VA, stating...Washington, DC...  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663563180123&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420917335_375c64818a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on November 18, 2023, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 16, 2023, 08:03:15 PM
US 13 SB/US 64 WB approaching US 64 ALT in Everetts (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219660651347329&set=a.10219660683028121)

(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/399541440_10219660651307328_4800010456208212731_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ltZK0JqQq0sAX9HKvHv&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAGWdvTsCwz-YoUBL6y6kKnA-u2RoQgGV6wtLtUFWD-Yw&oe=655C709B)

Hmmm.. can't say I've seen ALT posted in black on white on a modern BGS like that. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on November 19, 2023, 08:45:15 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on November 16, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
When your stop sign is faded so you mount a smaller one under it (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2119382,-77.4724274,3a,75y,281.72h,69.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDQMyAGGYaAErcWVAYRabpQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=0&entry=ttu)

This is at a Lowes in Webster, NY

I think it's not so much the fading that caused that as the fact that the tree blocks the full-size sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 19, 2023, 08:51:32 AM
On VA 151 NB north of SR 664 in Roseland, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663496458455&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420819169_2488d885ca_c.jpg)

On I-64 WB approaching US 340 in Waynesboro, VA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663509658785&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420826149_44f867ac2a_c.jpg)

On VA 257 WB just west of US 11 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663554939917&set=a.10219663576820464)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420509636_52a595dc3d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on November 19, 2023, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 19, 2023, 08:45:15 AM
Quote from: steviep24 on November 16, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
When your stop sign is faded so you mount a smaller one under it (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2119382,-77.4724274,3a,75y,281.72h,69.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDQMyAGGYaAErcWVAYRabpQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=0&entry=ttu)

This is at a Lowes in Webster, NY

I think it's not so much the fading that caused that as the fact that the tree blocks the full-size sign.
I think you're right. The stop sign at the other approach is faded much worse and doesn't have another sign mounted under it.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2120751,-77.4725465,3a,75y,200.92h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s04k8o3NYnTltBQVigiw1tQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=0&entry=ttu

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 19, 2023, 07:15:42 PM
Apparently a birding route in Michigan's upper Lower Peninsula:

(https://i.imgur.com/0o9Afge.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 19, 2023, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: plain on November 18, 2023, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on November 16, 2023, 08:03:15 PM
US 13 SB/US 64 WB approaching US 64 ALT in Everetts (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219660651347329&set=a.10219660683028121)

(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/399541440_10219660651307328_4800010456208212731_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ltZK0JqQq0sAX9HKvHv&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfAGWdvTsCwz-YoUBL6y6kKnA-u2RoQgGV6wtLtUFWD-Yw&oe=655C709B)

Hmmm.. can't say I've seen ALT posted in black on white on a modern BGS like that. Very interesting.
It's funny that western NC uses the A Suffix still and hasn't changed over to using ALT banners like the rest of The Tar Heel State.  US 74 ALT is signed US 74-A.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 19, 2023, 09:25:26 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cXXJjpxG72wNaknD7
I always found EXIT ONLY signs like this placed over merging areas rather odd despite its actually warning motorists entering the freeway to quickly merge and don't think your lane is permanent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 19, 2023, 09:33:07 PM
^^ An effect of exits being too close together for Interstate standards.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 19, 2023, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 19, 2023, 09:25:26 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cXXJjpxG72wNaknD7
I always found EXIT ONLY signs like this placed over merging areas rather odd despite its actually warning motorists entering the freeway to quickly merge and don't think your lane is permanent.

That's exactly the point of the sign.  The lane is exit only at the next exit, and you need to merge left to continue thru.  Nothing at all odd about it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 20, 2023, 07:29:36 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 18, 2023, 08:41:39 AM
Somewhere in Lévis, a blind left turn followed by a forced right at an intersection results in this unique sign:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53337915156_88b0dc0afc_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pghKUQ)Forced switchbacks, Lévis (https://flic.kr/p/2pghKUQ) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Looks like just the Canadian standard to me.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 20, 2023, 07:54:23 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on November 19, 2023, 09:33:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 19, 2023, 09:25:26 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/cXXJjpxG72wNaknD7
I always found EXIT ONLY signs like this placed over merging areas rather odd despite its actually warning motorists entering the freeway to quickly merge and don't think your lane is permanent.

That's exactly the point of the sign.  The lane is exit only at the next exit, and you need to merge left to continue thru.  Nothing at all odd about it.

Looks odd, not saying it is odd.  In fact they're several examples like this around. So it's pretty common and in each case it still looks odd despite being effective.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 20, 2023, 06:06:30 PM
This is some private drive to somewhere at the new west end of PA 424 in Hazelton.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681332664349&set=a.10219681382825603)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420524841_c479a42f47_c.jpg)

On US 30 EB approaching PA 113 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681066017683&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420946765_b6a8df0fb6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on November 20, 2023, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on November 18, 2023, 03:39:27 PM
Crossposted from the Atlanta thread...

My mind is blown. 

First, some good news: The entire ramp from southbound GA 400 to westbound I-285 is being restriped for two lanes, including the tie-in to 285. This puts an end to the infuriating lack of a two-lane ramp for this heavy movement, leading to needless backups for most of the day. Yay, I guess, though the one-lane tie-in to 285 could've been done months ago. Thanks for wasting our time, GDOT. Further upstream, the southbound 400 CD is now its final three lanes, with two dandy APLs for the three-to-two-plus-two split.

However, the overhead signage for the 285-Roswell Road split is now a four-arrow overhead for a three-lane roadway. WTF? Either GDOT wants to cram more lanes where they won't fit before this $1.5 billion project is even done, or the plans are screwed up. Given that there are only three lanes upstream from here-- two for the ramp from southbound 400, one for the ramp for northbound 400 to Roswell Road-- I think the latter is more plausible.

(https://i.imgur.com/D4Eg1Br.jpg)

Previously, the 285 sign wasn't there. The Roswell Road sign is pretty decently aligned over the two right lanes-- that's not a given with GDOT-- and I therefore assumed that the eventual 285 sign would have a single arrow. Between that and the inexplicable delay in opening the two-lane tie-in to 285, I don't feel stupid for not seeing this coming.

I believe this may be an attempt to go California-style, with two arrows pointing to one lane? That carriageway seems far too narrow to be four lanes, so I don't know how else they meant for it to be interpreted if the center arrows aren't for a middle lane.

I suppose this is a good example of why I'm not a fan of this style of signage. Unless it's designed perfectly it seems very easy to misinterpret.

Seems, much like the upstream signage, this should be an APL too.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 21, 2023, 07:41:05 AM
On PA 100 SB approaching Pottstown Pike south of US 30 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681032656849&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420689123_6c7574f682_c.jpg)

On US 202 SB at PA 491 EB (I do not think I have ever seen the gas sign done this way.  There is a Wawa on the left here.)  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681079858029&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420536031_d89f200928_c.jpg)

On Society Dr north of the Wawa just west of the DE 92/I-95 interchange (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681047377217&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420961595_e422ea0cd0_c.jpg)

On NJ 73 NB between the NJTP and I-295 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681101618573&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419612432_a6a3937411_c.jpg)

Next to I-95 NB in Philadelphia (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681168860254&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420858184_e023fa4f6c_c.jpg)

Here is Philly's attempt at using multiple banners on US 1 NB approaching PA 63.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681177220463&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420859414_b5d5342d51_c.jpg)

On PA 63 WB just west of PA 611 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681185180662&set=a.10219681205621173)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420967870_a01b7a517d_c.jpg)

A couple by the Cabela's at the I-78/US 22/PA 61 interchange.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681307463719&set=a.10219681382825603)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420969740_b154d5efab_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219681307903730&set=a.10219681382825603)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420546126_67e165d0d0_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 22, 2023, 05:31:15 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ewyLx6UMTS4gZwXd9
Location of the far left SR 23 shield is still placed where it was when this road was a one way. Now that it's two way, that shield is definitely out of place as it's over opposing traffic lanes.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on November 22, 2023, 06:18:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 22, 2023, 05:31:15 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ewyLx6UMTS4gZwXd9
Location of the far left SR 23 shield is still placed where it was when this road was a one way. Now that it's two way, that shield is definitely out of place as it's over opposing traffic lanes.
Don't forget the lazy IN 933 patches over the US 33 shields.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 22, 2023, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 22, 2023, 06:18:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 22, 2023, 05:31:15 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ewyLx6UMTS4gZwXd9
Location of the far left SR 23 shield is still placed where it was when this road was a one way. Now that it's two way, that shield is definitely out of place as it's over opposing traffic lanes.
Don't forget the lazy IN 933 patches over the US 33 shields.

Plus isn't US 31 Business decommissioned here? 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 22, 2023, 10:18:34 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 22, 2023, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on November 22, 2023, 06:18:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on November 22, 2023, 05:31:15 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ewyLx6UMTS4gZwXd9
Location of the far left SR 23 shield is still placed where it was when this road was a one way. Now that it's two way, that shield is definitely out of place as it's over opposing traffic lanes.
Don't forget the lazy IN 933 patches over the US 33 shields.

Plus isn't US 31 Business decommissioned here? 

No, it is actually way better signed than US 20 BUS, which is really only signed in South Bend east of downtown.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 23, 2023, 10:13:30 AM
I still don't remember where the "Do Not Enter" signs with additional messages thread is, but I still have to post this sign I found off of US 1 in St. Augustine north of the San Sebastian River Bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8931529,-81.3219263,3a,75y,154.1h,83.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV_11UoX4iQDkHwg0utD3Ag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8931529,-81.3219263,3a,75y,154.1h,83.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sV_11UoX4iQDkHwg0utD3Ag!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu)




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 23, 2023, 02:43:06 PM
US 11 SB (from PA 581 WB) at the Naval Support Activity in Mechanicsburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219692232976850&set=a.10219692595185905)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420757578_4621d87344_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420758008_54866d8608_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421028385_aca1b554b7_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on November 23, 2023, 05:24:09 PM
Not what I was looking for, not what I expected either.
An entire gantry with signs using Helvetica on AP-7. (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.7332107,2.6379136,3a,39.8y,32.74h,97.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0wPuL558ZIH1PCzwnaONQw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=es&entry=ttu)
In both directions! (https://www.google.es/maps/@41.7419663,2.6470742,3a,42.4y,246.66h,104.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYPHrrIv7ggYBUvSHkSNZ6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=es&entry=ttu)

I found another example at exit 8 southbound, looking at the oldest available footage. But the gantries on exit 10 were still up this summer, so I think they take the most merit.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 23, 2023, 09:15:27 PM
US 17 BUS (Fredericksburg) SB/VA 2 SB near US 17 on the south side of Fredericksburg  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219692208016226&set=a.10219692595185905)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420645076_087b8a9945_c.jpg)

On VA 156 BUS (Hopewell) NB at Harry E James Elementary School and Hopewell's pathetic way to excuse a partial road diet along Arlington Rd/High Ave (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219693447327208&set=a.10219692595185905)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53419720002_c4539f0ba3_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on November 24, 2023, 10:22:38 AM
This sign on private property (little league) is completely incorrect, from misunderstanding what "no thru traffic" means to not being black on yellow. Yet, it's hardly unique. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231124/86f423c9919ada5fa5619e1fadb977cc.jpg)
It's from SmartSign.com part number H2JG (which is printed at the bottom of the sign, but not visible at this resolution).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 25, 2023, 08:37:02 AM
On SR 627 SB in Dinwiddie County, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219696212196328&set=a.10219696357719966)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421101711_ef39dabc52_c.jpg)

A few around the Southpoint Business Park and the US 460/SR 630 intersection in Prince George County, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219695786265680&set=a.10219696357719966)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422275603_f382a5a5fb_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219696346839694&set=a.10219696357719966)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422296438_02a1aa90f4_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219696003991123&set=a.10219696357719966)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422297098_00b5cb149b_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219695787865720&set=a.10219696357719966)  (by Amazon)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422511629_4ec48485c5_c.jpg)

On VA 36 EB in Hopewell (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219695811666315&set=a.10219696357719966)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422515819_e1c537c667_c.jpg)

On VA 10 EB at SR 617 in Surry (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701135119398&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422521389_88f7e3173f_c.jpg)

On VA 32 NB on the Quadrant Road connection to US 258 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701153799865&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422385833_703d3e5e79_c.jpg)

On I-81 NB approaching I-66  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663619581533&set=a.10219663726224199&notif_id=1701049713112744&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421325552_9833acb678_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219663645182173&set=a.10219663726224199&notif_id=1701049720935518&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421325557_61168dcc5f_c.jpg)

US 17 NB/US 258 NB/VA 32 NB 1.2 miles south of James River Bridge in Carrollton, VA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701161800065&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422256026_1ff96e841c_c.jpg)

US 17 NB/US 258 NB/VA 32 NB near James River Bridge  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701162840091&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421348152_3b0e5b19fa_c.jpg)

Now on the bridge (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701164320128&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422268306_f3475ba59c_c.jpg)

Briarfield Rd in Newport News has some odd keystone signage  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701173320353&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421370092_dc9accdb0a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422447433_c093fdfb55_c.jpg)

On VA 105 WB approaching Fort Eustis (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701199361004&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422626199_66011e4834_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422307521_f4480159b1_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422308436_ef19db5117_c.jpg)

On Roger Brown Dr just east of VA 143 at Patrick Henry Mall (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701210761289&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422653369_eac0f4b89d_c.jpg)

A truck prohibition for a road in the nearby county for Charles City Rd (SR 600 here at VA 106).  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701275482907&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421424752_57ce1d485b_c.jpg)

Just across from the eastern VA 10/VA 106/VA 156 intersection (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701110918793&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422672634_8b926c5b11_c.jpg)

On the new VA 10 superstreet in Chester  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701255522408&set=a.10219701306443681)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421445857_20e0dd0c3b_c.jpg)

On VA 28 NB at SR 646 in Bristow, VA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701673692862&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421508227_1d20b7a6e4_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701766455181&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422760434_0d9291e6d6_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422601413_5c6cbdce5a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422875550_a9714f10c4_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 28, 2023, 09:28:43 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/H8NRg5tAnDbBVqfc7
Why does Exit 35 A get an arrow? It could even confuse motorists that it's directing them to Exit 35B.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on November 28, 2023, 10:33:14 PM
^^ And 35B needs an "EXIT ONLY" banner
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on November 29, 2023, 07:12:17 AM
A few along VA 7 (latter also along US 15) in Leesburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701784775639&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422611423_84695b75fc_c.jpg)

More surprised that this one is still here (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701787175699&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421535617_10e31ed511_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701787735713&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422886215_b96efc8002_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701788375729&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422613283_702b795b0f_c.jpg)

On WV 9 WB between Charles Town and Martinsburg is apparently an "Historic Orchard Area"  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701822256576&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422888100_f7cd5ae864_c.jpg)

On WV 45 WB at I-81 NB during the current construction there (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219701723214100&set=a.10219701842977094)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422456686_6de8f6eaba_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on November 29, 2023, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Big John on November 28, 2023, 10:33:14 PM
^^ And 35B needs an "EXIT ONLY" banner


Someone brought that up about I-280 EB in Kearney not having one at CR 508 EB.

It's obviously a state thing with this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 01, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I know we're generally familiar with DOTs putting state abbreviations on out-of-state control cities, but how often do you see a state abbreviation on an in-state control city (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3920623,-89.377484,3a,26y,132.12h,91.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgdSbkAitqLJ7tdtGaCXPsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
Now, it's pretty obvious why it was done, as presumably there were issues with traffic coming from St. Louis heading for Nashville, TN, making a wrong turn into Nashville, IL, but it still strikes me as unusual.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: tmoore952 on December 01, 2023, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 01, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I know we're generally familiar with DOTs putting state abbreviations on out-of-state control cities, but how often do you see a state abbreviation on an in-state control city (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3920623,-89.377484,3a,26y,132.12h,91.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgdSbkAitqLJ7tdtGaCXPsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
Now, it's pretty obvious why it was done, as presumably there were issues with traffic coming from St. Louis heading for Nashville, TN, making a wrong turn into Nashville, IL, but it still strikes me as unusual.

Signs in Maryland as you drive southbound approaching the American Legion Bridge on the Capital Beltway (the river crossing west of DC) say "Great Falls MD" (to distinguish it from Great Falls VA).

I don't cross the bridge often enough to remember if "Great Falls VA" is mentioned on VA signage (although if it was. it might also be southbound immediately after you enter Virginia).

EDIT - I noticed just now, for no particular reason, that this is reply 8888 in this thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 01, 2023, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: tmoore952 on December 01, 2023, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 01, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I know we're generally familiar with DOTs putting state abbreviations on out-of-state control cities, but how often do you see a state abbreviation on an in-state control city (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3920623,-89.377484,3a,26y,132.12h,91.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgdSbkAitqLJ7tdtGaCXPsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
Now, it's pretty obvious why it was done, as presumably there were issues with traffic coming from St. Louis heading for Nashville, TN, making a wrong turn into Nashville, IL, but it still strikes me as unusual.

Signs in Maryland as you drive southbound approaching the American Legion Bridge on the Capital Beltway (the river crossing west of DC) say "Great Falls MD" (to distinguish it from Great Falls VA).

I don't cross the bridge often enough to remember if "Great Falls VA" is mentioned on VA signage (although if it was. it might also be southbound immediately after you enter Virginia).

EDIT - I noticed just now, for no particular reason, that this is reply 8888 in this thread.

VA also does this for the town of Washington along US 211/US 522. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7124646,-78.1517135,3a,75y,291.61h,85.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_QT-Ao7ABTcoXxzqT_0fHQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)

In a Mineola Parking Garage (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219726245267136&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422479891_663cf86914_c.jpg)

In Wheatley Plaza by the intersection of NY 25A and Glen Cove Rd in Greenvale.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219726246267161&set=pcb.10219726250747273)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421565162_ccfe5ffc0a_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 05, 2023, 12:32:25 AM
Quote from: DSS5 on November 13, 2023, 10:34:53 AM
I was looking through posts from when I was last active on this forum years upon years ago, and apparently at the time this sign (which hadn't been put up yet, I'd posted an article that a rendering of it) was controversial for unclear wording.

NC-194 in Vilas, NC

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwataugaroads.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2F194-sign.jpg.jpg&hash=93e01789b117cb9663bf27723255daab3720f36e)
I see signs with the same color scheme along US 301 near Fort A.P. Hill.

Like these two:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.068361,-77.3292865,3a,75y,63.22h,103.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQWWg3hqKTyC5iwhkrL1LEQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu

There's also this one on VA 207:
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0386232,-77.3646568,3a,15y,81.2h,91.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7vZlPSuFhtpGg8P52oFvbg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 05, 2023, 10:21:55 AM
^All of the Fort AP Hill signs should say Fort Walker now.

US 222 SB/PA 272 SB near split at PA 741 in Willow Street, PA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722910543770&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421570852_0cea410eeb_c.jpg)

On DE 141 SB near DE 2 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722927584196&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422943880_b3738028c5_c.jpg)

On DE 141 SB near DE 62 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722929984256&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422829599_722f833256_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422511941_f9df42cfbf_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422670958_0b7eaf0769_c.jpg)

On DE 141 SB near DE 4 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722931864303&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422946930_3e577e65c0_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on December 05, 2023, 06:45:28 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 05, 2023, 10:21:55 AM
On DE 141 SB near DE 2 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722927584196&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/406974667_10219722927544195_5270625661461085016_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a73e89&_nc_ohc=ue1zwjAjoDQAX-SR-jC&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfBY5bjaLe9PYLQ38xfle2i4k9Smyq-sibMdoiXFXu6ZHg&oe=657483AE)

This sign reminds me a lot of the standards one of my states used to have:

(https://i.imgur.com/pl4xjnQ.png)


Also, it is pretty interesting to see "EXIT ONLY" reworded as "MUST EXIT". Younger me would've probably understood what that meant sooner, if the standard were "MUST EXIT".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 05, 2023, 07:14:07 PM
On I-295 NB in NJ (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722981425542&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422523306_df5a954deb_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 05, 2023, 07:54:18 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 01, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I know we're generally familiar with DOTs putting state abbreviations on out-of-state control cities, but how often do you see a state abbreviation on an in-state control city (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3920623,-89.377484,3a,26y,132.12h,91.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgdSbkAitqLJ7tdtGaCXPsQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)?
Now, it's pretty obvious why it was done, as presumably there were issues with traffic coming from St. Louis heading for Nashville, TN, making a wrong turn into Nashville, IL, but it still strikes me as unusual.

Washington, PA on all Pennsylvania guides.😁
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 05, 2023, 08:18:20 PM
I-295 NB/US 130 NB split (Exit 23) in Westville, NJ (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219722990705774&set=a.10219723127549195)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422525276_03a20b23cc_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 06, 2023, 08:04:11 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pd3NarbW3sxRas8R6
This odd to see KY 116 signed within the Volunteer State.

However, there is a good reason despite one state signed in another. If you look at the pavement in the image it changes . That's cause where the camera is the Google Car is in Kentucky, but cross onto the far side of the pavement change you're in Tennessee.  Then turn left into the distance and follow KY 116 back into the Bluegrass State.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 06, 2023, 01:53:26 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/UcUnKw9YjcyChCrq5
Here's one cause the left turn lane is for NJDOT employees entering a work facility that has its driveway to the left. The driveway has no outlet and is a dead end and state property so therefore the lane controls won't include it.

However the three straight arrows is odd as only two lanes go straight.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 06, 2023, 06:09:20 PM
On Belt Pkwy EB approaching JFK Airport (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723596880928&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53422693298_499d09f7e8_c.jpg)

At the NY 25B/Mineola Blvd intersection in Williston Park (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723704123609&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53421616407_76e752130a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 07, 2023, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 06, 2023, 06:09:20 PM
At the NY 25B/Mineola Blvd intersection in Williston Park (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723704123609&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/407197763_10219723704003606_3393554532801925690_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a73e89&_nc_ohc=XAI-JD_Lqy0AX9II4sT&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAghi86M7KfTez8kFqsVsftwE3TfOxc3UnDC4Gce4hVOw&oe=65762DF3)
That looks a lot less residential when I see it on Google Street View.  Don't get me wrong though, I believe you, because I've seen the trim of that house there too.

For the record, that's the driveway to the Nassau County Police Department's 3rd Precinct across from Mineola Boulevard.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on December 07, 2023, 04:16:55 PM
Wordy sign on Interstate 90 in Moses Lake, Washington.

Eastbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/mUVWtNqhHLGqxGRL9
Westbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/YqQyunPvZeH8AEHK7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: EpicRoadways on December 07, 2023, 06:40:11 PM
Albert Lea, MN is 154 miles (https://maps.app.goo.gl/1WhBMTAMcVW8uz959) from Brandon, South Dakota. Continue east about 7 miles across the MN state line and all of a sudden Albert Lea is... 155 miles (https://maps.app.goo.gl/NrpjqGqfo1UcwNuU8) away?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 07, 2023, 06:59:21 PM
Long Island likes Entrance Banners.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723646242162&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53412329802_feb1e46ed3_c.jpg)

NY 109 WB at Great East Neck Rd in West Babylon, NY. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723656242412&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413258706_a232226c59_c.jpg)

Back on Old Country Rd in Mineola, NY.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723638161960&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53412350722_d2f2de3fa3_c.jpg)

Toll Road/Bridge signage along the Cross Island Pkwy (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723688003206&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413273446_3d28be630e_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413718830_6bf32c0585_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219723698043457&set=a.10219723725924154)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413460903_b000300244_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413627334_7e9bf34d83_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 08, 2023, 01:21:44 AM
Somebody should grab a pic of this sign on NY 366 in Ithaca and post it on Wikimedia Commons;
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4505381,-76.4504688,3a,75y,246h,93.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVeVYGRvSuraLveNX_hql8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
They already captured a couple of park road signs before this.


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 08, 2023, 06:41:40 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on December 08, 2023, 01:21:44 AM
Somebody should grab a pic of this sign on NY 366 in Ithaca and post it on Wikimedia Commons;
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4505381,-76.4504688,3a,75y,246h,93.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVeVYGRvSuraLveNX_hql8Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
They already captured a couple of park road signs before this.

If I had only clinched it when I clinched NY 79 at the end of October...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Jim on December 08, 2023, 08:05:28 AM
I don't have the one on New York 366, but here's one on New York 96.  April 13, 2023.

(https://www.teresco.org/pics/signs/20230413/steepgrades.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 08, 2023, 09:05:59 AM
I probably already posted the one on NY 79.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219615593860920&set=a.10219615811826369)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53412398942_f89f940025_c.jpg)

A couple Harrisburg parking lot ones (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219737862597562&set=a.10218247474178783)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413651874_228aa5b801_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413653574_bc98630d8f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 09, 2023, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 08, 2023, 09:05:59 AM
(https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/408721078_10219737862157551_5876027899198332358_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a73e89&_nc_ohc=8UvH-hS_noYAX96ZfJV&_nc_ht=scontent.fagc1-2.fna&oh=00_AfDWPfkDOAHGf-XKZ7nqy74NH6lc8EHpxHOnbeRHVLDL1Q&oe=65794FB9)
It's called "at home", yet you can't make the parking lot your home. Talk about false information.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 10, 2023, 08:28:09 PM
US 222 NB/PA 272 NB at Lime St in Lancaster, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219741858537458&set=a.10219742075822890)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53413777615_05d0ac4697_c.jpg)

Pet Supplies Plus has "Barking Spots"  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219741882058046&set=a.10219742075822890)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53412420632_d4b3f44c67_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 11, 2023, 09:46:45 AM
Acadian street signs in Havre-Saint-Pierre:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53390589891_42aa9636fd_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pkWJgV)Acadian street signs, Havre-Saint-Pierre - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2pkWJgV) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CoreySamson on December 11, 2023, 03:21:13 PM
Interesting use of the phrase "WAIT FOR YOUR GREEN" on this construction sign in Webbers Falls, OK at the OK 351/US 64 interchange:

(https://imgur.com/4l0Zl52.jpg)

The location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/6nZB7k2rVqKCd9As8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Revive 755 on December 12, 2023, 11:05:43 PM
Black and white Wrong Way sign during the reconstruction of the I-270/US 67 interchange in the St. Louis metro. (https://maps.app.goo.gl/oy1m21uJrbEjAMGx6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on December 13, 2023, 06:34:24 AM
https://www.aaroads.com/il/155/i-155-s-exit-000-6.jpg
Exit 0B. It makes me think of an OBGYN. Plus considering that IDOT on I-24's Western terminus  uses I-57's scheme there instead of using zero, that they would choose I-55's number for the exchange.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on December 20, 2023, 12:39:22 AM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53409415859_bc8720480f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pnBdzz)

Cross posted from the Snoqualmie Pass discussion in the Northwest board.  I noticed in an older Washington State Parks book that there used to be a state park called Hyak Lodge, which was a conference center.  I wondered why it was removed from the parks system so I went there to check it out in 2021.  It used to be housing for the Hyak snow removal crew, but a few years ago it turned into offices for the contractor who built the I-90 widening project east of the pass.  They even left their sign behind.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 20, 2023, 12:41:31 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 20, 2023, 12:39:22 AM
They even left their sign behind.
It's literally free, you can just take it­.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on December 20, 2023, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 20, 2023, 12:41:31 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on December 20, 2023, 12:39:22 AM
They even left their sign behind.
It's literally free, you can just take it­.

So long as he is allowed to. My parents have had to tell me to stop, gee I wonder why...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 21, 2023, 10:01:11 PM
So apparently old PA 896 has speed tables... (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219741971180274&set=a.10219742075822890)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53412323097_20ae2f9239_c.jpg)

On VA 288 NB at SR 668 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784541724511&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53415287588_096c133e62_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on December 23, 2023, 10:43:42 PM
but some folks'll

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yHjdNRdyVHtimU8V7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on December 24, 2023, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on December 23, 2023, 10:43:42 PM
but some folks'll

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yHjdNRdyVHtimU8V7
Cleated is an interesting term.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on December 24, 2023, 12:14:16 AM
Quote from: Rothman on December 24, 2023, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on December 23, 2023, 10:43:42 PM
but some folks'll

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yHjdNRdyVHtimU8V7
Cleated is an interesting term.

What kind of vehicle(s) would it be referring to?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 25, 2023, 11:21:15 AM
On US 360 WB at I-295 NB  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790321068991&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53420572394_307228ea38_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on December 25, 2023, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: Rothman on December 24, 2023, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: ClassicHasClass on December 23, 2023, 10:43:42 PM
but some folks'll

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yHjdNRdyVHtimU8V7
Cleated is an interesting term.
I could call my ma while I'm up here
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on December 26, 2023, 06:52:28 AM
Quote from: kphoger on November 09, 2023, 10:15:34 AM
(https://i.redd.it/vew7tc926vr51.jpg)

Applies in both programming, and space travel. Always tell the next guy, what killed you.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on December 26, 2023, 05:43:58 PM
A sign that isn't a Tome V standard AFAIK, but I've seen at two separate occasions (and undoubtedly put up by MTQ), a RV crossing:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53398885248_99ab8db160_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pmFfcj)RV crossing in 250 m (https://flic.kr/p/2pmFfcj) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on December 27, 2023, 04:37:54 AM
This unusual Monroe addon on Washington State Route 9 northbound at the junction with US Route 2: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vXcedw8K33kt12gAA

It was added sometime after 2012: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9ygbA8zYSEQfrYWN9

Interestingly, the southbound one does not have that addon: https://maps.app.goo.gl/AJ8s3VRuxsM3b7Wa8 Although farther up in the southbound lane, this sign is like this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/x5fs1b56QGrUaN6G7 Which matches the addon to the bigger sign in the northbound lane. Although it seems to me that Wenatchee should be on the bottom line.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 27, 2023, 02:44:38 PM
US 158 in Roxboro has a Low Clearance Detour for vehicles too high for the railroad underpass east of US 501/NC 57. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219773811896272&set=a.10219774726079126)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53425252800_7d73892564_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 27, 2023, 05:52:04 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on December 26, 2023, 05:43:58 PM
A sign that isn't a Tome V standard AFAIK, but I've seen at two separate occasions (and undoubtedly put up by MTQ), a RV crossing:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53398885248_99ab8db160_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pmFfcj)RV crossing in 250 m (https://flic.kr/p/2pmFfcj) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr

Reminds me of that secret Army vehicle that Bill Murray "borrowed" in the movie, "Stripes"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2023, 02:28:18 PM
On Boone Station Dr in Burlington, NC.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219776897373407&set=a.10219777618711440)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53429510084_c5315f7658_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on December 29, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2023, 02:28:18 PM
On Boone Station Dr in Burlington, NC.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219776897373407&set=a.10219777618711440)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53429510084_c5315f7658_c.jpg)


WARNING!!  You might want to turn left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on December 29, 2023, 07:52:35 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 29, 2023, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2023, 02:28:18 PM
On Boone Station Dr in Burlington, NC.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219776897373407&set=a.10219777618711440)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53429510084_c5315f7658_c.jpg)


WARNING!!  You might want to turn left.

Especially on Sunday???
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 29, 2023, 08:50:56 PM
Time to just use text references to numbers on US 29 NB north of Gretna, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219777492028273&set=a.10219777618711440)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53429995303_e214f621b3_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jay8g on December 30, 2023, 11:39:23 PM
Quote from: Amaury on December 27, 2023, 04:37:54 AM
This unusual Monroe addon on Washington State Route 9 northbound at the junction with US Route 2: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vXcedw8K33kt12gAA

It was added sometime after 2012: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9ygbA8zYSEQfrYWN9

That's classic WSDOT cheapness -- when they want to add a new destination but don't want to pay for a whole new sign, they just tack on an extra plaque like that. This one (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0966925,-123.5416807,3a,27.3y,72.71h,94.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNrOS3FPwZU87CN0Yi3UWsw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu) at SR 112 and US 101 has been there for decades.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on December 31, 2023, 05:13:18 AM
They could have also just "taped" a new sign "sticker" over it, like was done here on I-82 eastbound before the Nob Hill exit: https://maps.app.goo.gl/wpuakLYCg7kz9eo79 Not sure why they didn't do that with Monroe (and, again, why is it only one direction, but not the other?) or your example.

Not sure what City Center used to be, but yeah, you can tell the difference in the shade of green. Although it looks like there used to only be Exit 33 on I-82 eastbound there, and then another exit was created. Like Exit 37 eastbound used to be just Exit 37, then they added a second exit just farther up for Union Gap, making the original Exit 37A and the new one Exit 37B. This one you can see on Google Maps since it wasn't THAT long ago.

Another example on I-82 westbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/AmHftMpTpiHpAewJ8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on December 31, 2023, 07:06:25 PM
On VA 10 WB at Broadway in Hopewell (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784074952842&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53433261962_28608dfaf2_c.jpg)

At the Shopping Center by SR 754 and SR 604 in Chesterfield County, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784501043494&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53435272232_f9cd409e73_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 01, 2024, 06:06:23 PM
Old-style button copy reassurance signage on the CA 134 W to I-5 N transition ramp. No mention of the Golden State Fwy, though.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/BaNSkBnQEpPgQfd59
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on January 01, 2024, 09:13:02 PM
Which one of these restrictions seems out of place?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/D26WptNrU6VADvT16
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on January 01, 2024, 09:49:28 PM
Quote from: mglass87 on January 01, 2024, 09:13:02 PM
Which one of these restrictions seems out of place?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/D26WptNrU6VADvT16

The first three are actually because of the 4th one. One day someone thought it would be a great spot for a hangout and it eventually led to a horseshoe pit, which of course often involves alcohol consumption and shit talking  :-D. The city shut it down pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 02, 2024, 11:20:49 AM
Looking at Valor Circle from VA 36 WB at the Gregg Gate for Fort Gregg-Adams (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784792210773&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53437006262_55e7d82266_c.jpg)

On VA 36 in Hopewell (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784848372177&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53438747054_168f8a9565_c.jpg)

Along VA 106 north of I-64 to VA 249 (and one from SR 609) in New Kent (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219785805636108&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439341834_e1a54a845d_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439159973_18fbd2928a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439025161_7a80fe0835_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53438102152_8933eeb228_c.jpg)

On VA 3 WB/VA 33 WB at SR 625 in Hartfield, you see an Overhead Power Lines signed unrelated to ongoing construction. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219786024601582&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53440761663_418a11f7ac_c.jpg)

VA 3 WB Norris Bridge Signage (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219786029361701&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53440961174_ef2b2f8824_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439720187_6777d85bf0_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219786040641983&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53440643926_38848c3e1c_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219786050842238&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439734797_2d4e217431_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439734812_f90b7a3ab7_c.jpg)

At the north end of the VA 3/VA 200 concurrency in Kilmarnock (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219786151364751&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53441031714_981c2734d5_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53440851858_fe305dd915_c.jpg)

On US 360 WB at SR 644 west of VA 200 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219786262327525&set=a.10219786613056293)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53439878342_47e7a29dc4_c.jpg)

On VA 156 SB south of I-295 in Sandston (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790541674506&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443289685_3b3c497f2a_c.jpg)

Now south of I-64 on VA 156 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790627516652&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53441969017_5017f8d777_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53441969057_c4a9affdc1_c.jpg)

21st St becomes Riverside Ave here (I think you get the point even with the photo not being the best at this time of day.) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790781440500&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443360575_bd1a7d41b8_c.jpg)

SR 618 WB west of VA 10 in Chester (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790790520727&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443392365_ccf84e06fc_c.jpg)

On SR 618 EB at VA 10 EB (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790802201019&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443130743_4de18f2b35_c.jpg)

I may as well show this one too on VA 10 EB. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790803001039&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53442998196_70cf76b115_c.jpg)

On Ironbridge Pkwy (SR 1569) east of VA 10 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219790915203844&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443036066_cf44d0b438_c.jpg)

In the Chesterfield Court House Area (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219791011246245&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53442149907_a7f000f377_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219791092928287&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443267928_bbb2d6431f_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443133601_f7b979aae9_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219791102968538&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53442212447_ecdc804554_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53442214327_0a13bc35b4_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219791110728732&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53442215917_377a944060_c.jpg)

Now to the Chester Wal-Mart Area (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219791141809509&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443569005_1aac239a2a_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219791153809809&set=a.10219791255612354)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53443175741_6c143222f9_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 05, 2024, 03:30:00 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 02, 2024, 11:20:49 AM
On VA 36 in Hopewell (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784848372177&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53438747054_168f8a9565_c.jpg)
At least it isn't a US 36 shield... this makes it good, r-right?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 05, 2024, 06:39:37 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 05, 2024, 03:30:00 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 02, 2024, 11:20:49 AM
On VA 36 in Hopewell (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784848372177&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53438747054_168f8a9565_c.jpg)
At least it isn't a US 36 shield... this makes it good, r-right?

At this point, yes.  Same with US 10 and US 156.

At the east end of what locals call Snake Rd (on SR 746 in Chester, VA)  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219792841932011&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53444033623_00d2d32b39_c.jpg)

This was the signage used to direct traffic back to US 360 from the Metro Richmond Zoo at their Christmas lights display. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219794085123090&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53444422783_6cfaef7560_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on January 05, 2024, 11:28:11 AM
Sign blade directing people to I-95 North in Colonial Heights, VA:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/a2SWDgzLsa2RwEmF6


Meanwhile in Hopewell:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/j6xjQkWF5HDDWtcP9

1. For once it's a new sign that isn't a US Shield
2. VA 36 isn't for another 2 miles down the road it's pointing down.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 05, 2024, 12:07:11 PM
Grange Hall Elementary School's Pick-Up/Drop-Off Line on a Saturday Morning (in Moseley, VA) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219794084123065&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53444788815_fb150a4b3c_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53444512668_d71a724404_c.jpg)

Heading north on Watkins Centre Pkwy before the roundabout just south of US 60 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219793176220368&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445096680_da7a895fc6_c.jpg)

On US 60 WB west of Watkins Centre Pkwy (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219793266062614&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445107144_f30cf7ac2d_c.jpg)

And another truck prohibition in another county just west of here (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219793267462649&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445182549_81104b7195_c.jpg)

On VA 76 NB just south of VA 288 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219793287343146&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445318180_7e7a11e3e8_c.jpg)

On Leigh St west of VA 161 in Richmond (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219793694193317&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445461234_dccca81f68_c.jpg)

On Roseneath Rd at US 33/US 250 (Broad St) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219793740794482&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445501809_55aa97a85a_c.jpg)

On Dabney Rd just west of VA 197 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219792779370447&set=a.10219794100283469)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445530109_dfed7e51da_c.jpg)

On Burning Tree Rd SB near Osborne Tpk in Henrico County, VA  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799336454370&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445620137_9dc238aff8_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53446543876_85420042bc_c.jpg)

I am unsure why we needed a white sign on the Laburnum Ave Connector at VA 895.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799339934457&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53446962868_07dcaebe45_c.jpg)

Ignore GPS Sign Comparison:

VA 10 WB near SR 746 in Chesterfield County (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219784129634209&set=a.10219785162300025)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447009288_bb049966e0_c.jpg)

VA 5 EB near Strath Rd in Henrico County (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799343294541&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447192209_084c7d0fed_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 06, 2024, 04:16:40 PM
I like this sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/gksj9CaKn2a1Ko6ZA

Normally, the Freeway Entrance sign is on a separate post. This is at the junction of Interstate 5 and Washington State Route 432 in Kelso.

I don't know why, but I like the way this sign is assembled on US Route 2 in Monroe, Washington, especially on the westbound side.

Westbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/sq7c2NMZemEirQ1v7 (back view: https://maps.app.goo.gl/yL6mnYmyqikLfBzd6)
Eastbound: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ThMrqFjPZt47YAsh8 (back view: https://maps.app.goo.gl/F3jfJWoDxw44wQ3B6)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 06, 2024, 04:31:08 PM
Some R. Garland Dodd Park (known locally as Point of Rocks Park) signage in Chester, VA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799353854805&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447140128_78430d64a2_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53446083722_bc2625e9b0_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447007511_e5aa97c299_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447325054_8c04f99578_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on January 06, 2024, 04:33:57 PM
3 posts up (I am not snipping) first photo, why would there be a Saturday pickup for a school? (Assuming like at most schools, class is not in session)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 06, 2024, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 06, 2024, 04:33:57 PM
3 posts up (I am not snipping) first photo, why would there be a Saturday pickup for a school? (Assuming like at most schools, class is not in session)

Class was obviously not in session or I probably would not have let myself go there.  I was trying to turn around, and I stumbled upon the signage while doing so.

Anyway, on Kingston Ave (SR 4841) at Rivers Bend Blvd (SR 618) back in Chester, VA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799363935057&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447372174_8fdfe5efbf_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 06, 2024, 05:16:01 PM
On US Route 30 in Oregon, there's a junction with Taylorville Road in Wauna with a freeway-like exit.

Going eastbound, it's unnumbered:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8S6Ycp9oePKSgtc57
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MZxRqvSbKNqFjbj77
https://maps.app.goo.gl/HxYe5D5vgA5GAMEz7

However, going westbound, it's numbered like an interstate:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mhF9EHxt2fDMQ8oW8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7y2gTAcRMJYCqA126
https://maps.app.goo.gl/aYBAKyap9bZbzqBUA

Although looking at older captures, westbound was unnumbered as well:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/49NcxKUaukW28mXb7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hhpzss8cxkQMXrir9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JmC5c91VGHiae9Mt5
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 06, 2024, 06:08:40 PM
Some more in Colonial Heights:

On Hamilton Ave north of Lyons Ave: (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799380015459&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447301528_1d89398469_c.jpg)

On Lakeview Ave at US 1/US 301: (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799381615499&set=a.10219799429736702) (not sure why Boulevard is on a white sign)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447312823_e0ab91b6b2_c.jpg)

At Mount Pleasant Baptist Church: (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799299293441&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447624725_b73fbf8445_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447341443_76284931ed_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53446287937_e79ce47085_c.jpg)

On I-495 Inner at VA 267 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219799300173463&set=a.10219799429736702)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53447622538_33c2ab644f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on January 07, 2024, 10:51:20 AM
Some more Hopewell highlghts:

Yellow speed limit sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/YPstdiBA7fzrfqkK6

A different yellow speed limit sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yt5Nr7HDE9VvZGhn8

Do not enter sign with different text:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ycYKENR6SHtRoMU7

Exit signs for a confusing road where a shopping center once was:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/o8qhbRnTNuiM4cDJ7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 07, 2024, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: mglass87 on January 07, 2024, 10:51:20 AM
Some more Hopewell highlghts:

Do not enter sign with different text:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1ycYKENR6SHtRoMU7


That is a very stupid set of signs...  If a street-bound exiting driver gets close enough where they can read the ENTRANCE ONLY text on the sign, you might as well complete the exit because it will cause more potential headaches to turn around at that point and leave through the designated egress.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 07, 2024, 02:23:02 PM
This sign is on PA 51 NB at PA 201 because PA 201 NB heads northeast to PA 136 west of the bridge this restriction is in place for.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219817548629663&set=a.10219817649832193)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53448255442_561cb449f4_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 07, 2024, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: mglass87 on January 07, 2024, 10:51:20 AMA different yellow speed limit sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/yt5Nr7HDE9VvZGhn8

We had something like that in the city a while ago, but it was temporary because they were adding sidewalks along West University Way, as the actual speed limit there is 35 MPH. And I believe it may have actually been orange.

This is as far as the 2023 capture goes, but you can see the back of it in front of the light pole there: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MNv93txYz7Xh6Vt39
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 07, 2024, 05:45:06 PM
On PA 356 SB at Freeport Rd south of PA 128 in Freeport (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219817596870869&set=a.10219817649832193)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53448659277_9e006f8179_c.jpg)

At the Dollar General on PA 66 ALT in Oklahoma, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219817600830968&set=a.10219817649832193)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53449943449_04ae5548dc_c.jpg)

A yellow warning Hospital sign in Kane on US 6 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219817715993847&set=a.10219817829956696)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53448967077_193736ffd5_c.jpg)

At US 6/PA 66 in Kane (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219817717473884&set=a.10219817829956696)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53449919086_07a001e9e1_c.jpg)

At the Sheetz at the US 6/US 219 intersection in Lentz Corners.  The STOP sign seems to be for the Air Compressor Unit. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219817717033873&set=a.10219817829956696)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53450345965_d0a8f8c448_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 08, 2024, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 07, 2024, 05:45:06 PM
A yellow warning Hospital sign

Huh.  Didn't realize that wasn't in the MUTCD.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 08, 2024, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 08, 2024, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 07, 2024, 05:45:06 PMA yellow warning Hospital sign

Huh.  Didn't realize that wasn't in the MUTCD.

I think it was last in the national MUTCD in the 1935 edition (as a square rather than diamond).  PennDOT's Handbook of Approved Signs and TxDOT's Standard Highway Sign Designs for Texas are not bad sources for word-message warning signs that prompt raised eyebrows, though I think TxDOT has given up on both "Church" and "Cemetery."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 08, 2024, 04:14:51 PM
Pretty sure the yellow diamond with "HOSPITAL" has been in some state MUTCD in the 1970s. In any case, it's far from unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 08, 2024, 08:22:17 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 08, 2024, 04:14:51 PM
Pretty sure the yellow diamond with "HOSPITAL" has been in some state MUTCD in the 1970s. In any case, it's far from unique.
Meh.  Half a century is long enough for them to become unicorns.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on January 08, 2024, 08:55:38 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 08, 2024, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 08, 2024, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 07, 2024, 05:45:06 PMA yellow warning Hospital sign

Huh.  Didn't realize that wasn't in the MUTCD.


I think it was last in the national MUTCD in the 1935 edition (as a square rather than diamond).  PennDOT's Handbook of Approved Signs and TxDOT's Standard Highway Sign Designs for Texas are not bad sources for word-message warning signs that prompt raised eyebrows, though I think TxDOT has given up on both "Church" and "Cemetery."

Here's an ancient Pennsylvania square church sign still standing on PA 29 in Montrose (though twisted so that GMSV never gets a good look at it in the clear era) - https://maps.app.goo.gl/hjsu1U13cPRSGdcU7

it did get a good look in the fuzzy era - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Zah3BR3Gov37WXDF6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 09, 2024, 12:34:19 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 08, 2024, 08:55:38 PM
Here's an ancient Pennsylvania square church sign still standing on PA 29 in Montrose (though twisted so that GMSV never gets a good look at it in the clear era) - https://maps.app.goo.gl/hjsu1U13cPRSGdcU7

it did get a good look in the fuzzy era - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Zah3BR3Gov37WXDF6

Here's a not-too-terrible shot:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/XtYBrBzC5hRXuNQPA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 07:25:10 PM
Both ways take you to Seattle, but isn't there something in the MUTCD the suggests not signing the same location for two different routes?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QMsgjybPqy7wkeT8A

This is at the US 2 and US 97 interchange on the west side of the Columbia River in Chelan County.

This was like this even before they changed the interchange and added the current ramps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vuBDCEvFfyDGi6cF6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 09, 2024, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 07:25:10 PM
isn't there something in the MUTCD the suggests not signing the same location for two different routes?

That's what they keep telling me on here.  I'm sure someone, at some point, has provided the actual MUTCD citation, but I'm too lazy to find it right now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 09, 2024, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 07:25:10 PM
Both ways take you to Seattle, but isn't there something in the MUTCD the suggests not signing the same location for two different routes?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QMsgjybPqy7wkeT8A

This is at the US 2 and US 97 interchange on the west side of the Columbia River in Chelan County.

This was like this even before they changed the interchange and added the current ramps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vuBDCEvFfyDGi6cF6

Going the other way you have this combined reassurance-and-mileage combo sign, which is something you see more in Europe than the US.
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5561773,-120.5875403,3a,34.4y,162.2h,96.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s597VwX4exZj8gl280yorgA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 09:42:40 PM
Yeah, I actually like that. Normally, you have two separate signs and signposts, one for the reassurance shield and one for the control locations, like here on WA 270, east of the junction with WA 10: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oUrFxgisDxyjpNAu7

In the distance in the capture linked above, you see this control locations sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q9ePVqU6RbvpDxMK8

(Fun fact: Leavenworth used to be JCT US 2: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CxY5xT6RyjBkXwDK7)

I posted this a while ago in this thread, but there's also this combo south of the Chelan County junction where US 97 splits from the concurrency with US 2: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XRvdZHFkeGtPW1it5

There's another one somewhere, but I don't remember where it is right now.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on January 09, 2024, 11:10:20 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 09:42:40 PM
Yeah, I actually like that. Normally, you have two separate signs and signposts, one for the reassurance shield and one for the control locations, like here on WA 270, east of the junction with WA 10: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oUrFxgisDxyjpNAu7

In the distance in the capture linked above, you see this control locations sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q9ePVqU6RbvpDxMK8

(Fun fact: Leavenworth used to be JCT US 2: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CxY5xT6RyjBkXwDK7)

I posted this a while ago in this thread, but there's also this combo south of the Chelan County junction where US 97 splits from the concurrency with US 2: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XRvdZHFkeGtPW1it5

There's another one somewhere, but I don't remember where it is right now.
There is one for US 2 West: https://maps.app.goo.gl/sXhkaEesfH6vtQP49

This is similar to how Virginia posts many of their mileage signs on the highways...
US 13/58/460 Suffolk, VA: https://maps.app.goo.gl/44r3Z6JM8uKwa6xPA
US 258/VA 10 Benns Church, VA: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qH6JijLfxt4WvCdj7

If you, Amaury, would like to see an even more interesting pair, here are two in the Binghamton, NY area...
I-81 SB: https://maps.app.goo.gl/YVbSbaiaozZ28cpr8
I-81 NB: https://maps.app.goo.gl/JjaoSGBCUE8nN1qx9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 11:11:34 PM
I think that US 2 one was the one I was thinking of. I'm sure there are more examples, but these three in Washington are just the ones I've seen, one of them also pointed out by Scott.

I like those New York examples, too!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 10, 2024, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: kphoger on January 09, 2024, 09:26:01 PM

Quote from: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 07:25:10 PM
isn't there something in the MUTCD the suggests not signing the same location for two different routes?

That's what they keep telling me on here.  I'm sure someone, at some point, has provided the actual MUTCD citation, but I'm too lazy to find it right now.

Anybody got the reference to back up this claim?  I'm not finding it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 10, 2024, 02:28:56 PM
I haven't spent much time in Nevada GSV.  How common is this sign?  NO ATV (https://maps.app.goo.gl/nzQZV5PNFCCPv9nY7)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 10, 2024, 09:35:56 PM
I don't think it's in the state standards book (which I recommend leafing through because it has a lot of fantastic animal warning signs you won't find in other states). Could be a Humboldt County install.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 11, 2024, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

I have seen this on PA 26 north of Huntingdon just pass PA 36 heading north. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219595235471973&set=a.10219595326354245) 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53458251784_aba68bc595_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 11, 2024, 04:37:32 PM
I actually wish the farther-away destination were on top as a general rule.  Up-arrows mean "ahead" so, to me, farther up means farther ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 11, 2024, 05:39:09 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 11, 2024, 04:37:32 PMI actually wish the farther-away destination were on top as a general rule.  Up-arrows mean "ahead" so, to me, farther up means farther ahead.

Germany has the Umklappregel (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wegweisung), but wholesale adoption of it in the US would be quite a culture shift.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on January 11, 2024, 11:28:47 PM
Stolen from reddit; how often do you see a sign that reads "stop now or kaboom"? Google Maps link (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Dk75dHjKHLeuF5Yq5)
(https://i.redd.it/5bf0uvycvubc1.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on January 12, 2024, 09:09:00 AM
All I can say is that DelDOT is desperate there.  I used to live about five blocks from that tunnel and every so often a truck hits it.  CSX has even threatened to close it.  What I don't understand is why they didn't put traffic signals in at the same time.  Some people (including my father) think the Yield sign going northbound really means you're supposed to take turns.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: elsmere241 on January 12, 2024, 09:09:00 AM
All I can say is that DelDOT is desperate there.  I used to live about five blocks from that tunnel and every so often a truck hits it.  CSX has even threatened to close it.  What I don't understand is why they didn't put traffic signals in at the same time.  Some people (including my father) think the Yield sign going northbound really means you're supposed to take turns.

Does the US have an equivalent to this sign (Rb-91 in Ontario)? I agree a yield sign should be sufficient, but this one is very clear.
(https://www.barricadetrafficservices.com/cdn/shop/products/rb91_grande.jpeg?v=1453729036)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: elsmere241 on January 12, 2024, 09:58:37 AM
That would be just the ticket around here, and not just specifically there.  Considering all the signs DelDOT has experimented with that weren't necessarily MUTCD-compliant, I don't know why they don't just adopt something like that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 12, 2024, 12:46:48 PM
Yellow "LEFT LANE NO TRUCKS" on Freedom Rd EB approaching US 19/PA 228 in Cranberry.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219386212726535&set=a.10219386267847913)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53458553307_8e9ac9d0cd_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: elsmere241 on January 12, 2024, 09:09:00 AM
All I can say is that DelDOT is desperate there.  I used to live about five blocks from that tunnel and every so often a truck hits it.  CSX has even threatened to close it.  What I don't understand is why they didn't put traffic signals in at the same time.  Some people (including my father) think the Yield sign going northbound really means you're supposed to take turns.

Does the US have an equivalent to this sign (Rb-91 in Ontario)? I agree a yield sign should be sufficient, but this one is very clear.
(https://www.barricadetrafficservices.com/cdn/shop/products/rb91_grande.jpeg?v=1453729036)

If it's black on white, it's regulatory. 

It would be impossible to show every sign that could be used as there are often unusual conditions that need specialized signage, such as in this case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 12, 2024, 01:33:04 PM
I like these signs on Interstate 90 eastbound in Montana.

Before milepost 21: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ca57Z4Rv3cJxRQDq7

Just before Exit 22 and milepost 22: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ShXfJokNknyFieG18 A typo was made here, saying "miles" instead of "mile." It also seems kind of incorrect to me? It says the curves are not for another mile, but then almost right away, see below...

Just past Exit 22 and milepost 22: https://maps.app.goo.gl/8HZpSyidC4TDEUwN9

Then this last one before milepost 23, but this one is more normal compared to the other three: https://maps.app.goo.gl/W4ypgp1AX3ydbjbd8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM
If it's black on white, it's regulatory. 

Okay, are you arguing that the sign I posted shouldn't be regulatory (and if yes, how come)? In Ontario it is regulatory as its included in OTM Book 5 (meanwhile warning signs are OTM Book 6).

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM
It would be impossible to show every sign that could be used as there are often unusual conditions that need specialized signage, such as in this case.

This sign is common when one side of a two-lane road is closed for construction (as long as traffic volumes and speeds are low). What signage would the US use in this scenario?

FWIW, most (all?) European countries has an equivalent sign. Here's the one used in Finland (in honour of you-know-who):
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Finland_road_sign_B4.svg/240px-Finland_road_sign_B4.svg.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 12, 2024, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM

Quote from: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 09:37:58 AM
Does the US have an equivalent to this sign (Rb-91 in Ontario)? I agree a yield sign should be sufficient, but this one is very clear.
(https://www.barricadetrafficservices.com/cdn/shop/products/rb91_grande.jpeg?v=1453729036)


If it's black on white, it's regulatory. 

It would be impossible to show every sign that could be used as there are often unusual conditions that need specialized signage, such as in this case.

The US does have an equivalent to that sign:  R1-2aP mounted below R1-2.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/MUTCD_Sign_Assembly_-_R1-2_with_R1-2aP.svg/146px-MUTCD_Sign_Assembly_-_R1-2_with_R1-2aP.svg.png)

And . . .

Quote from: MUTCD, 11th Edition
Part 2 — Signs

Chapter 2B — Regulatory Signs, Barricades, and Gates

§ 2B.18 — STOP Sign or YIELD Sign Placement

Option:

07 — Where drivers proceeding straight ahead must yield to traffic approaching from the opposite direction, such as at a one-lane bridge, a TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC (R1-2aP) plaque (see Figure 2B-1) may be mounted below the YIELD sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 12, 2024, 02:06:33 PM
The US does have an equivalent to that sign:  R1-2aP mounted below R1-2.

Thanks kphoger, and it looks nearly the same too! :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 12, 2024, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 02:16:54 PM

Quote from: kphoger on January 12, 2024, 02:06:33 PM
The US does have an equivalent to that sign:  R1-2aP mounted below R1-2.

Thanks kphoger, and it looks nearly the same too! :)

You're welcome.  It's somewhat common in Missouri, although a few of the ones I've personally seen have had the bridges replaced with two-laners.

Current example:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/w8AttMrGCfxNKVtd6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 12, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

Wonder if that sign, or at least the order, dates back to when US 431 still went through downtown Anniston?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 13, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 12, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

Wonder if that sign, or at least the order, dates back to when US 431 still went through downtown Anniston?

I assumed the order reflected that the exit for Anniston comes before the exit for US 431, but Anniston is still further away along an intersecting route. (Although if that were the case, it would be better to use either the intersecting route number or "Anniston Exit" on this sign and provide the distance to the exit instead.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 13, 2024, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: roadfro on January 13, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 12, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

Wonder if that sign, or at least the order, dates back to when US 431 still went through downtown Anniston?

I assumed the order reflected that the exit for Anniston comes before the exit for US 431, but Anniston is still further away along an intersecting route. (Although if that were the case, it would be better to use either the intersecting route number or "Anniston Exit" on this sign and provide the distance to the exit instead.)

Some states do that. Like Pennsylvania signs all cities on a freeway to the exit rather than the Downtown. Then some states have been doing city limits as the mileage point as well.  However still I would sign in order regardless of what exit comes first.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 13, 2024, 05:40:19 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53462015410
Six and one on both distances.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on January 14, 2024, 10:03:53 AM
"Left turn stay inside white line":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SxvkVQ5NFvZHdVrM6

The recycling center sign seems temporary but it's been there for years:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rZmVcy4BLPjXWCgz9

Deformed stop sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bq9K7doqoM4oPkUm9

Odd No Parking sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8PBVbLaQCYbu9a268

Sign for a pretty much abandoned road:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EBzKpb6fqqA99aTT6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Tom958 on January 14, 2024, 07:00:09 PM
Crossposted from the Atlanta thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=204.msg2898854#msg2898854). This is on westbound I-285 where the former two offramps to GA 141 have been replaced with a single combined ramp. The lane to the right is a merge lane, so onramp traffic has to merge, then change lanes again if they're not bound for GA 141. By the logic that prompted the removal of this signage scheme from the MUTCD, some drivers will falsely believe that they must change lanes twice to stay on 285, possibly prompting hasty, ill-considered maneuvers. We'll see, I guess.

--------------------- 

This bit of MUTCD-defiant awesomeness went up over the weekend, replacing these two signs (https://maps.app.goo.gl/RoiESrMjvswFrKKQ6) for the former two-offramp condition. The new combined ramp has been open for a few weeks; the original signage could've been shrouded and greened out to provide accurate wayfinding, but it was still unchanged as of Friday.

(https://i.imgur.com/3s9MgAg.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 14, 2024, 07:33:49 PM
I just stumbled upon this sign on a website related to Pennsylvania:
https://palogo.org/sign/us-322-port-royal/
Even though I was looking for images of roads within Ocala National Forest in Florida.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 14, 2024, 10:44:10 PM
 This exit sign in an acceleration lane is very odd given the circumstances. US 69 has a very short concurrency with I-635 in Missouri. If you follow US 69 north, you are directed to exit the moment you enter the I-635 freeway.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53371252986
US 69 doesn't even enter the main travel lanes of I-635 here. If you're following the said Route you actually remain in the auxiliary lane the entire time you're on the freeway.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 15, 2024, 01:49:08 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/x9UYAPQHRzSodPoE7
A rare county line sign in NJ along NJ Rte. 23.

Another thing to note the sign faces the road and not the driver, as it's more of a location type of sign for a disabled motorist.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on January 15, 2024, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 15, 2024, 01:49:08 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/x9UYAPQHRzSodPoE7
A rare county line sign in NJ along NJ Rte. 23.

Another thing to note the sign faces the road and not the driver, as it's more of a location type of sign for a disabled motorist.
Only the Garden State Parkway has real county line signs in NJ. But I know I've seen one like you posted, except older and faded, somewhere else. Maybe Cape May and Atlantic?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hobsini2 on January 15, 2024, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?
Yup. This one has been around over 30 years. Highland Ave approaching Route 56 Butterfield Rd and Butterfield Frontage Rd in Downers Grove IL. Come to think of it, this may be the oldest APL sign in the country.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8338478,-88.0108751,3a,60y,0.95h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZwDBJQ_yeVaKH97R9AZcOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 15, 2024, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?

This one on the wbd I-696 service drive in Warren, MI (https://maps.app.goo.gl/qSjKhE9tYJWP6YTq5) is partial width.  The traffic signal is just past the bend.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 15, 2024, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on January 15, 2024, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?
Yup. This one has been around over 30 years. Highland Ave approaching Route 56 Butterfield Rd and Butterfield Frontage Rd in Downers Grove IL. Come to think of it, this may be the oldest APL sign in the country.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8338478,-88.0108751,3a,60y,0.95h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZwDBJQ_yeVaKH97R9AZcOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Blech.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 15, 2024, 04:45:46 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?

Yeah, I do not think this one below counts.  :)  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219869809896162&set=a.10216218268569911)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53466379546_af8773d68e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 15, 2024, 06:18:00 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 15, 2024, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?

This one on the wbd I-696 service drive in Warren, MI (https://maps.app.goo.gl/qSjKhE9tYJWP6YTq5) is partial width.  The traffic signal is just past the bend.

This.  Although technically correct, if I look quickly at the overhead, it seems that you can access 696 in either direction...although the intent of this APL sign is to direct ALL 696 traffic to turn left, no?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 15, 2024, 06:57:11 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 07:25:10 PMBoth ways take you to Seattle, but isn't there something in the MUTCD the suggests not signing the same location for two different routes?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QMsgjybPqy7wkeT8A

This is at the US 2 and US 97 interchange on the west side of the Columbia River in Chelan County.

This was like this even before they changed the interchange and added the current ramps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vuBDCEvFfyDGi6cF6

Here's another one with the same location (Selah) for two separate routes (I-82 and WA 823): https://maps.app.goo.gl/5tKVc9q3LsuMZDfm9 I-82 westbound Exit 30A is for Selah, which is literally right there after you get on the freeway at the same place, and just gets you right back onto WA 823 northbound.

Although the signs before these signs are all different.

These overhead signs mention WA 823 for Selah and I-82 for just Ellensburg, but make no mention of US 12 at all: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3nzoKPCBBCw3peRd6

These overhead signs make no mention of WA 823 at all: https://maps.app.goo.gl/RrjUeshMBL9YPNNN8

So, it's a little inconsistent.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 15, 2024, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1639806,-72.543735,3a,67.7y,277.03h,95.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwcOTo7P7iLq3l-4sElksw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) before?

Actually, this one on VA 165 SB approaching the Continuous-Flow Intersection (CFI) at US 13/VA 166 does apply.  The signals kinda block it, but I think you get the point.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217203890769850&set=a.10217203898010031)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53465844467_02b1157d4b_c.jpg)

More Norfolk ones:

Looking at Norfolk Int'l Airport from the intersection of Norview Ave (VA 247 ends at VA 165) and VA 192 (unsigned along Azalea Garden Rd) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219870245667056&set=a.10216218268569911)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53467071754_b8e5e2609d_c.jpg)

VA 247 EB at VA 194 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219870245747058&set=a.10216218268569911)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53467071464_b5856c2377_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 16, 2024, 12:08:50 PM
While looking for a photo for my Stock Sign Photos thread, I came across these interesting signs at the Washington/Oregon border on Interstate 5.

Northbound - "WA S / L OR" on both sides of the freeway: https://maps.app.goo.gl/T8TCbMMrg8efxikk7
Southbound - "OR S / L WA" on both sides of the freeway: https://maps.app.goo.gl/tV3p1iHSRioQBAkz9

Not sure what they mean.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on January 16, 2024, 12:16:56 PM
I think S/L is "state line".
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrislopezz on January 16, 2024, 08:12:20 PM
Shouldn't this be at the top?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53469104780_a1f0c62866.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 16, 2024, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 16, 2024, 12:16:56 PM
I think S/L is "state line".

Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: frankenroad on January 17, 2024, 03:42:24 PM
Quote from: chrislopezz on January 16, 2024, 08:12:20 PM
Shouldn't this be at the top?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53469104780_a1f0c62866.jpg)

Took me a minute - I was wondering why a Connecticut highway would have the outline of Georgia on it!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 17, 2024, 06:25:36 PM
On Oregon Routes 203 and 257. I like the state route shield being part of the mile marker, but not sure what the A means:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8MocNMBfurhA9dT18
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9p3N5hfmyzFZuNLK6

I noticed US 395 south of Pendleton also does that, though it might have been a different letter. I don't remember. My first and only time so far going that way was on a drive to Mount Vernon in Oregon last year in February.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 17, 2024, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 17, 2024, 06:25:36 PM
On Oregon Routes 203 and 257. I like the state route shield being part of the mile marker, but not sure what the A means:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8MocNMBfurhA9dT18
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9p3N5hfmyzFZuNLK6

I noticed US 395 south of Pendleton also does that, though it might have been a different letter. I don't remember. My first and only time so far going that way was on a drive to Mount Vernon in Oregon last year in February.

Here you go:

https://www.oregon.gov/odot/Regions/Documents/Region5/US%20395_OR207%20Alpha%20Mile%20Markers_Web_Final_0104178.pdf
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on January 18, 2024, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 17, 2024, 06:41:43 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 17, 2024, 06:25:36 PM
On Oregon Routes 203 and 257. I like the state route shield being part of the mile marker, but not sure what the A means:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8MocNMBfurhA9dT18
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9p3N5hfmyzFZuNLK6

I noticed US 395 south of Pendleton also does that, though it might have been a different letter. I don't remember. My first and only time so far going that way was on a drive to Mount Vernon in Oregon last year in February.

Here you go:

https://www.oregon.gov/odot/Regions/Documents/Region5/US%20395_OR207%20Alpha%20Mile%20Markers_Web_Final_0104178.pdf
So they identify a problem and provide a completely nonsensical solution? Why would it be so hard to follow the rules and not reset mile markers in the first place? Isn't that how most states with concurrencies do things? Also, why do miles on US 395 increase from north to south?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 18, 2024, 12:30:53 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2024, 12:10:03 PM
So they identify a problem and provide a completely nonsensical solution? Why would it be so hard to follow the rules and not reset mile markers in the first place? Isn't that how most states with concurrencies do things?

You might be surprised to learn that not all states view mileposts with the same eyes.  For example, in Texas, you generally won't even find them at all off the Interstate system.  In Kentucky, they reset at county lines.

Quote from: bzakharin on January 18, 2024, 12:10:03 PM
Also, why do miles on US 395 increase from north to south?

Because they're allowed to.  And it isn't just US-395:  as far as I'm aware, it's all non-Interstate north-south highways in Oregon except for a small number of exceptions.  The MUTCD states that "Zero distance should begin at the south and west State lines, or at the south and west terminus points where routes begin within a State" [MUTCD §2H.05/13].  That's should, not shall:  it's guidance, not a requirement.

If you'd like to take the discussion to a thread already dedicated to the subject, then maybe resurrect this 4½-year-old thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=24548.0).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 17, 2024, 06:41:43 PMHere you go:

https://www.oregon.gov/odot/Regions/Documents/Region5/US%20395_OR207%20Alpha%20Mile%20Markers_Web_Final_0104178.pdf

Thanks. I remember this now. I've Google this before, I just didn't remember I did until seeing this document again. Still doesn't make that much sense to me. I don't see how it's either a benefit or hindrance. I don't see any possibility for confusion.

Quote from: The A, B, C's of mile markers in OregonAll this mile marker resetting can be confusing when motorists call a tow company or the state police and advise they've had an accident on U.S. 395 and need help at mile post 12. Emergency responders and dispatchers first have to confirm which mile post 12 they are at.

If there's, say, a collision on US 395 southbound in Oregon at milepost 10, when you call 911, it will automatically ring in the 911 of the state you're in—in this case, Oregon. Responders shouldn't have to figure out if it's milepost 10 in Oregon or Washington, because it's obvious it's Oregon since you rung in to 911 in Oregon. And for US 395, anyway, it doesn't happen until south of Pendleton, which is well past Washington and well into Oregon. If there would be confusion, it would be closer to the Washington border, where these letters aren't used in US 395's non-concurrent segments, because of the way mile markers work for non-interstates in Oregon, with mile markers increasing from north to south and east to west instead of the other way around. So, at the Washington/Oregon border, it would be roughly milepost 1 on both sides, though you don't see that since Interstate 82's mileposts are used because of the concurrency.

But it makes even less sense for local state routes, such as Oregon Route 203 and Oregon Route 237.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 18, 2024, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 03:20:47 PM

Quote from: The A, B, C's of mile markers in OregonAll this mile marker resetting can be confusing when motorists call a tow company or the state police and advise they've had an accident on U.S. 395 and need help at mile post 12. Emergency responders and dispatchers first have to confirm which mile post 12 they are at.

If there's, say, a collision on US 395 southbound in Oregon at milepost 10, when you call 911, it will automatically ring in the 911 of the state you're in—in this case, Oregon. Responders shouldn't have to figure out if it's milepost 10 in Oregon or Washington, because it's obvious it's Oregon since you rung in to 911 in Oregon. And for US 395, anyway, it doesn't happen until south of Pendleton, which is well past Washington and well into Oregon. If there would be confusion, it would be closer to the Washington border, where these letters aren't used in US 395's non-concurrent segments, because of the way mile markers work for non-interstates in Oregon, with mile markers increasing from north to south and east to west instead of the other way around. So, at the Washington/Oregon border, it would be roughly milepost 1 on both sides, though you don't see that since Interstate 82's mileposts are used because of the concurrency.

But it makes even less sense for local state routes, such as Oregon Route 203 and Oregon Route 237.

It's because the state police or tow company would need to figure out which Oregon mile post 12 you meant—not which state's mile post 12 you meant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 04:46:35 PM
So, like milepost 12 could be Oregon Route 203, Oregon Route 82, Interstate 84 in Oregon, US Route 395 in Oregon, etc.? Is that what you mean? But if you say, "Hey, I'm broken down at milepost 12 on US 395," there's no confusion as to which highway you're on, is there? You were specific and said US 395. Or am I missing something? Also, if that's the case, what's different here in Washington or other states compared to Oregon? I don't know about the other states, but I know for sure we don't use that lettering here in Washington. I don't think Idaho does, either. Of the other states I've been in, Montana, Utah, and California, I don't think Montana does, but I'm not sure about the latter two as I haven't been on that many highways over there. When we went to Salt Lake City, we were only on interstates while in Utah (I-84, I-15, I-215, I-80). And in California, I've only been on US 97, CA 3, I-5, US 199, and US 101.

I'm genuinely confused here, so thanks for the help in answering.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on January 18, 2024, 05:31:39 PM
Quote from: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 04:46:35 PM
So, like milepost 12 could be Oregon Route 203, Oregon Route 82, Interstate 84 in Oregon, US Route 395 in Oregon, etc.? Is that what you mean? But if you say, "Hey, I'm broken down at milepost 12 on US 395," there's no confusion as to which highway you're on, is there? You were specific and said US 395. Or am I missing something?

Yes, you're missing the fact that US-395 in Oregon has multiple mileposts numbered 12.

Let's say your motorcycle broke down, so you hitchhiked the rest of the way home and then called a tow company from there.  You tell them that you left the motorcycle along US-395, just south of milepost 14.  Without the alpha character, all three of these US-395 mileposts would be identical, so which one should they dispatch a truck to:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wDYevmVJJDbEbCvAA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/strRYfiT2RXsgdw88
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nPQ1wio631fJNgac7

As far as the state of Oregon is concerned, these aren't merely three segments of the same route:  they're three separate routes that just happen to all carry the US-395 designation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 18, 2024, 05:56:22 PM
I'm of the opinion that mileposts should never reset at the county lines, I ain't a fan of Georgia or Tennessee doing it with their counties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2024, 05:31:39 PMYes, you're missing the fact that US-395 in Oregon has multiple mileposts numbered 12.

Let's say your motorcycle broke down, so you hitchhiked the rest of the way home and then called a tow company from there.  You tell them that you left the motorcycle along US-395, just south of milepost 14.  Without the alpha character, all three of these US-395 mileposts would be identical, so which one should they dispatch a truck to:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wDYevmVJJDbEbCvAA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/strRYfiT2RXsgdw88
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nPQ1wio631fJNgac7

As far as the state of Oregon is concerned, these aren't merely three segments of the same route:  they're three separate routes that just happen to all carry the US-395 designation.

That's what I was missing. I didn't realize it had "duplicate" mileposts. Thank you. That makes it a lot clearer!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 18, 2024, 06:26:14 PM
Oregon DOT routes (the route number is what appears on signs) follow highways (the highway number typically appears only in internal documentation).  The blurb doesn't go into detail, but I'm pretty sure each instance of milepost 12 on US 395 in Oregon corresponds to a separate highway.  And just to make things extra fun, highways can turn from one route to another, and I'm pretty sure the milepointing continues to increment through each turn.

This is just one way in which Oregon DOT is deeply unusual among state highway agencies.  Another is numbering sheets of signing plans in a series that spans every single construction plans set issued since roughly the mid-1960's.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 19, 2024, 12:25:23 AM
QuoteThe blurb doesn't go into detail, but I'm pretty sure each instance of milepost 12 on US 395 in Oregon corresponds to a separate highway.

That is, indeed, exactly the case.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 19, 2024, 06:59:28 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on January 18, 2024, 06:26:14 PM
Oregon DOT routes (the route number is what appears on signs) follow highways (the highway number typically appears only in internal documentation).  The blurb doesn't go into detail, but I'm pretty sure each instance of milepost 12 on US 395 in Oregon corresponds to a separate highway.  And just to make things extra fun, highways can turn from one route to another, and I'm pretty sure the milepointing continues to increment through each turn.

This is just one way in which Oregon DOT is deeply unusual among state highway agencies.  Another is numbering sheets of signing plans in a series that spans every single construction plans set issued since roughly the mid-1960's.
Not as prominent as Oregon's use of their hidden designations, but NYSDOT also still refers to an ancient hidden designation of their state highways in project milestone documents so contractors can look up historical record plans if need be.  IIRC, they are hyphenated and in the "highway name" field.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: PColumbus73 on January 19, 2024, 08:17:51 AM
Quote from: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2024, 05:31:39 PMYes, you're missing the fact that US-395 in Oregon has multiple mileposts numbered 12.

Let's say your motorcycle broke down, so you hitchhiked the rest of the way home and then called a tow company from there.  You tell them that you left the motorcycle along US-395, just south of milepost 14.  Without the alpha character, all three of these US-395 mileposts would be identical, so which one should they dispatch a truck to:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wDYevmVJJDbEbCvAA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/strRYfiT2RXsgdw88
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nPQ1wio631fJNgac7

As far as the state of Oregon is concerned, these aren't merely three segments of the same route:  they're three separate routes that just happen to all carry the US-395 designation.

That's what I was missing. I didn't realize it had "duplicate" mileposts. Thank you. That makes it a lot clearer!

This happens in Ohio too on non-Interstate divided highways like US 23 and 35. Ohio doesn't appear to use the standard mile markers for non-Interstates either, in Ross County, OH, mile markers use black-on-white signs.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.478951,-82.9710023,3a,17.3y,323.35h,85.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sN0J5MX_r08wl82lTe4zOiA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DN0J5MX_r08wl82lTe4zOiA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D351.7716%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Since exit numbers are being added to on sign replacements, now seems to be the time to add mile markers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on January 19, 2024, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: PColumbus73 on January 19, 2024, 08:17:51 AM
Quote from: Amaury on January 18, 2024, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2024, 05:31:39 PMYes, you're missing the fact that US-395 in Oregon has multiple mileposts numbered 12.

Let's say your motorcycle broke down, so you hitchhiked the rest of the way home and then called a tow company from there.  You tell them that you left the motorcycle along US-395, just south of milepost 14.  Without the alpha character, all three of these US-395 mileposts would be identical, so which one should they dispatch a truck to:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/wDYevmVJJDbEbCvAA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/strRYfiT2RXsgdw88
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nPQ1wio631fJNgac7

As far as the state of Oregon is concerned, these aren't merely three segments of the same route:  they're three separate routes that just happen to all carry the US-395 designation.

That's what I was missing. I didn't realize it had "duplicate" mileposts. Thank you. That makes it a lot clearer!

This happens in Ohio too on non-Interstate divided highways like US 23 and 35. Ohio doesn't appear to use the standard mile markers for non-Interstates either, in Ross County, OH, mile markers use black-on-white signs.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.478951,-82.9710023,3a,17.3y,323.35h,85.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sN0J5MX_r08wl82lTe4zOiA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DN0J5MX_r08wl82lTe4zOiA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D351.7716%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Since exit numbers are being added to on sign replacements, now seems to be the time to add mile markers.

What's worse is that in the last 30-40 years, ODOT's black-on-white mileage markers have omitted the 3-letter county abbreviation and highway number on the mile marker for reference.  For example, in the olden days, a mile marker on Route 18 in Medina County marker would say:

MED-18
   22

Whereas nowadays, it's a simple white square with a black 22 on it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 20, 2024, 05:58:06 PM
Family gathering:

(https://i.imgur.com/PD88QTw.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2024, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 20, 2024, 05:58:06 PM
Family gathering:

(https://i.imgur.com/PD88QTw.jpg)

Is that the most interstate shields on one gantry, at least in regards to parent/daughter routes?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on January 20, 2024, 11:05:57 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 18, 2024, 05:56:22 PM
I'm of the opinion that mileposts should never reset at the county lines, I ain't a fan of Georgia or Tennessee doing it with their counties.

Georgia and Tennessee have such small counties that it's not practical there.

The counties in Nevada and other Western states, on the other hand, are extremely large—larger than some states, even—and so there's not as much of a problem with those resetting (especially because, in Nevada and California, the mileposts include a county code so that it's clear which county any given milepost belongs to, even if you're not quite sure whether you've crossed a certain county line or not).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on January 20, 2024, 11:32:36 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 20, 2024, 11:05:57 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 18, 2024, 05:56:22 PM
I'm of the opinion that mileposts should never reset at the county lines, I ain't a fan of Georgia or Tennessee doing it with their counties.

Georgia and Tennessee have such small counties that it's not practical there.

Unfortunately, they still do it anyways.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on January 21, 2024, 02:23:15 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 19, 2024, 06:59:28 AMNot as prominent as Oregon's use of their hidden designations, but NYSDOT also still refers to an ancient hidden designation of their state highways in project milestone documents so contractors can look up historical record plans if need be.  IIRC, they are hyphenated and in the "highway name" field.

Thanks for the hint!  I actually hadn't yet discovered NYSDOT's record plans portal.

I managed to track down the contract (D258109, from 2000) that placed bilingual signs along I-87 near the Canadian border:

(https://i.imgur.com/B1nkEqT.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 21, 2024, 03:02:13 PM
The only ramp for I-78 in PA that signs Easton.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jnkMNNtb5AXeopXX8
For some reason, PennDOT won't use New York as a control city here except at the exit near the NJ State Line and the more recent addition of PA 33.

Just like I-80 further north PA also ( as been discussed in other threads) is hesitant of using NY except near the Delaware River ( as PennDOT is even more hesitant of signing NJ cities) on signs for the two major E-W interstates.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 21, 2024, 09:27:15 PM
On PA 414 EB in Slate Run (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891132869223&set=a.10219891250752170)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53479636995_fbb207a9da_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on January 21, 2024, 11:49:30 PM
QuoteI managed to track down the contract (D258109, from 2000) that placed bilingual signs along I-87 near the Canadian border:

Interesting that they had EXIT/SORTIE, but everything still in miles. Maine IIRC had km/mi for Canadian motorists near the border.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 21, 2024, 11:59:56 PM
On PA 184 WB just west of US 15 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891150989676&set=a.10219891250752170)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53479434651_0908484b94_c.jpg)

On Cogan House Rd just east of PA 184 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891153149730&set=a.10219891250752170)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53481037446_a8b3de9425_c.jpg)

On VA 24 EB at SR 634 EB in Vinton from February 2012 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219896157354832&set=a.10216218268569911)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53481246053_0a8c0a7007_c.jpg)

Charleston St at Cone St in Wellsboro, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891242191956&set=a.10219891250752170)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53481565088_6c2de47fc3_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on January 23, 2024, 12:56:59 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 21, 2024, 03:02:13 PM
The only ramp for I-78 in PA that signs Easton.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jnkMNNtb5AXeopXX8
For some reason, PennDOT won't use New York as a control city here except at the exit near the NJ State Line and the more recent addition of PA 33.

Just like I-80 further north PA also ( as been discussed in other threads) is hesitant of using NY except near the Delaware River ( as PennDOT is even more hesitant of signing NJ cities) on signs for the two major E-W interstates.
There is one mileage sign just east of the Frystown interchange (10 on I-78) that has New York City on it (Allentown 47/New York City 135).  I cannot remember offhand if there are any more mileage signs for NYC between there and the PA 33 interchange.  I found one just east of Exit 23: https://maps.app.goo.gl/jBkxiZ1msRRjxSmz6.  I-78 is signed for both New Jersey and NYC on PA 33: https://maps.app.goo.gl/R2wBvEaLFRw4edDQ8

I believe PennDOT should add Scranton (for I-81) and New York City (for I-78) in addition to Hazleton and Allentown on the NB signs at interchange 89 on I-81.

At the I-80/I-81 interchange near Hazleton, New England and New York City are on the overheads on I-80 EB. https://maps.app.goo.gl/JCVrRrgxnCxHsQ9A6  That was an excellent addition.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on January 23, 2024, 03:22:27 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on January 23, 2024, 12:56:59 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 21, 2024, 03:02:13 PM
The only ramp for I-78 in PA that signs Easton.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jnkMNNtb5AXeopXX8
For some reason, PennDOT won't use New York as a control city here except at the exit near the NJ State Line and the more recent addition of PA 33.

Just like I-80 further north PA also ( as been discussed in other threads) is hesitant of using NY except near the Delaware River ( as PennDOT is even more hesitant of signing NJ cities) on signs for the two major E-W interstates.
There is one mileage sign just east of the Frystown interchange (10 on I-78) that has New York City on it (Allentown 47/New York City 135).  I cannot remember offhand if there are any more mileage signs for NYC between there and the PA 33 interchange.  I found one just east of Exit 23: https://maps.app.goo.gl/jBkxiZ1msRRjxSmz6.  I-78 is signed for both New Jersey and NYC on PA 33: https://maps.app.goo.gl/R2wBvEaLFRw4edDQ8

I believe PennDOT should add Scranton (for I-81) and New York City (for I-78) in addition to Hazleton and Allentown on the NB signs at interchange 89 on I-81.

At the I-80/I-81 interchange near Hazleton, New England and New York City are on the overheads on I-80 EB. https://maps.app.goo.gl/JCVrRrgxnCxHsQ9A6  That was an excellent addition.

I just found another one for NYC around mm 76.5
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6759381,-75.1966571,3a,47.4y,85.3h,84.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXT8MprnPVuLKH4BBNC-H3g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

and another right after the PA-33 interchange (exit 71)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6428585,-75.2632483,3a,75y,81.69h,85.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swElrwshB2ICoaQUIt07oww!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I can't find it either but I specifically remember one that had NYC at 100 miles somewhere in PA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 23, 2024, 06:41:54 AM
PA 414 EB at Blockhouse Rd (looking at Williamson Trail) in Liberty, PA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891771325184&set=a.10219892151334684)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53481278097_44c8c1ef8b_c.jpg)

On US 6 approaching US 6 BUS (Tunkhannock) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891847167080&set=a.10219892151334684)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483243094_3a5fec5828_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483243099_d90febb146_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53482942711_b1e294d867_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483350575_ea0eebb21d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 23, 2024, 03:38:46 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/uAGYjPg19EopEW4f6
The ramp from Exit 42 on I-287 in Parsippany- Troy Hills, NJ is signed for US 202 and Morristown/ Butler.

Yet the ramp for SB Exit 42 on I-287 is signed for both US 46 & 202 with the control cities of Clifton and Dover.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mfyCeCSS2z6JTdpe6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 23, 2024, 05:40:38 PM
On US 6 BUS (Carbondale) WB at 6th Ave in Carbondale, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891956209806&set=a.10219892151334684)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483447263_9db8714368_c.jpg)

On PA 307 NB north of Keyser Ave in Scranton (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891975570290&set=a.10219892151334684)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483676479_0fae1002cd_c.jpg)

On PA 309 SB approaching Luzerne (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891989050627&set=a.10219892151334684)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483707309_8407888685_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 24, 2024, 04:08:55 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mQcXVyv5Dzd6BaTKA
Two conflicting guide signs for the same exit on NJ Route 495. One lists the next exit at 1.5 miles but the other list is being half of it.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 25, 2024, 01:07:43 PM
I found this on the US 119/US 250 concurrency south of Grafton, WV. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2740458,-80.0398397,3a,15y,96.17h,83.66t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXmJ8WeJ1CIXOADfGiZkE5g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DXmJ8WeJ1CIXOADfGiZkE5g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D303.4612%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)

At the DEP Building in Harrisburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219907839126869&set=a.10219841211181212)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53487947873_0a32b0cd22_c.jpg)

On Memorial Ave at Dolin Ave in Hopewell, VA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10219917586250541&set=a.10219917684252991)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53493527891_de645678c0_c.jpg)



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 28, 2024, 06:14:23 PM

https://www.aaroads.com/de/009/de-009-n-at-i-295-3.jpg
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/009/de-009-n-at-i-295-3.jpg)
Delaware doesn't seem to remember these days that US 40 is still concurrent with I-295.

Looks like Arkansas Fever is spread up here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on January 28, 2024, 06:22:43 PM
Washington does that in some places as well, though it generally does a good job signing its concurrencies. US 2 and US 97 are concurrent south of Orondo, for example, but this sign doesn't mention US 97 south to the right of US 2 west: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2E8d2gEShJLR5jai9 Nor does this newly erected signpost when the highway was named over the summer: https://maps.app.goo.gl/T738sc9sVFU3GHdF9 (Same for the same sign for eastbound/northbound on the other end.) However, in pretty much all other areas, it's recognized, such as here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Z5jAkbWvjWLAvJ917

Here it's mentioned, but in the wrong order. US 2 should be first (on the left side) since its the primary route in the concurrency: https://maps.app.goo.gl/nwspgF6Pa9t6uhvTA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Lukeisroads on January 29, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
Why and how caltrans :banghead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.263792,-119.2356865,3a,33.4y,184.81h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sra-FqFbnrA3ouRMgOHXbBg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on January 29, 2024, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on January 29, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
Why and how caltrans :banghead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.263792,-119.2356865,3a,33.4y,184.81h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sra-FqFbnrA3ouRMgOHXbBg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Ummm...  Could you please give the rest of us a clue?  I see nothing unique or odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on January 29, 2024, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 29, 2024, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on January 29, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
Why and how caltrans :banghead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.263792,-119.2356865,3a,33.4y,184.81h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sra-FqFbnrA3ouRMgOHXbBg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Ummm...  Could you please give the rest of us a clue?  I see nothing unique or odd.

Maybe the fact that "Telephono" seems to be some weird hybrid of English and Spanish?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on January 29, 2024, 01:13:19 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 29, 2024, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 29, 2024, 09:42:10 AM
Quote from: Lukeisroads on January 29, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
Why and how caltrans :banghead:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.263792,-119.2356865,3a,33.4y,184.81h,87.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sra-FqFbnrA3ouRMgOHXbBg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Ummm...  Could you please give the rest of us a clue?  I see nothing unique or odd.

Maybe the fact that "Telephono" seems to be some weird hybrid of English and Spanish?
So, an o where an e should be.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 29, 2024, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 23, 2024, 06:41:54 AM
On US 6 approaching US 6 BUS (Tunkhannock) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219891847167080&set=a.10219892151334684)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53483243099_d90febb146_c.jpg)
That clearing on the mountain in the distance isn't the runaway truck ramp, is it?  :-D :)

Anyway, while searching for evidence of the "McQueens Island Bike Trail" on Tybee Island in Georgia, I stumbled upon this odd collection of signs on a gate at the Fort Pulaski Road Bridge on what appears to be an outdated Google Street View.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.0207447,-80.8990075,3a,75y,82.12h,79.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scmnppCNZBuH29u9pKE3vyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&e%20McQueens%20Island%20bike%20trail.entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.0207447,-80.8990075,3a,75y,82.12h,79.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scmnppCNZBuH29u9pKE3vyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en&e%20McQueens%20Island%20bike%20trail.entry=ttu)




Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 29, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
^I do not think so based on GSV. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Swxbb7YJye5AWUqw6?g_st=ic
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 29, 2024, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 29, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
^I do not think so based on GSV. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Swxbb7YJye5AWUqw6?g_st=ic
Okay. Then I suppose what I'm looking at is either a fire break, or a right-of-way for some kind of underground utility line. Gas or oil, perhaps.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 29, 2024, 06:58:44 PM
I don't think the "banner" under this Stop sign in Montauk is MUTCD-compliant, but somehow I would've been okay if it had been left alone.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fairview_@_South_Fairview_Avenue_in_Montauk;_Stop_at_Stop_Line.jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Fairview_%40_South_Fairview_Avenue_in_Montauk%3B_Stop_at_Stop_Line.jpg/640px-Fairview_%40_South_Fairview_Avenue_in_Montauk%3B_Stop_at_Stop_Line.jpg)
So is there some standard to it?

I saw an updated GSV of the intersection, and that banner is much more red now.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0494205,-71.9319481,3a,75y,177.9h,104.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPN4CpVu3nl-yxxEFSWmRiA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 29, 2024, 07:29:11 PM
Move over, Limon, any of those Saints (except probably Saint-Albert, where A-955 ends) could go:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53495829982_749efd68a3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pvf7uf)A-20 EB, sortie 210 - 1 (https://flic.kr/p/2pvf7uf) by Liliana Vess (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lilianauwu/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: amroad17 on January 29, 2024, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 29, 2024, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 29, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
^I do not think so based on GSV. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Swxbb7YJye5AWUqw6?g_st=ic
Okay. Then I suppose what I'm looking at is either a fire break, or a right-of-way for some kind of underground utility line. Gas or oil, perhaps.
Yes, gas pipeline.  This GSV is on North Eaton Road on the other side of the river from US 6: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ydLFBpTSY49cqEFu8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 30, 2024, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: amroad17 on January 29, 2024, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 29, 2024, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 29, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
^I do not think so based on GSV. https://maps.app.goo.gl/Swxbb7YJye5AWUqw6?g_st=ic
Okay. Then I suppose what I'm looking at is either a fire break, or a right-of-way for some kind of underground utility line. Gas or oil, perhaps.
Yes, gas pipeline.  This GSV is on North Eaton Road on the other side of the river from US 6: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ydLFBpTSY49cqEFu8
That makes sense. My third choice would've been a ski trail. The runaway truck ramp comment was supposed to be a joke. Sorry if it sucks that much.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on January 30, 2024, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 29, 2024, 06:58:44 PM
I don't think the "banner" under this Stop sign in Montauk is MUTCD-compliant, but somehow I would've been okay if it had been left alone.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fairview_@_South_Fairview_Avenue_in_Montauk;_Stop_at_Stop_Line.jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Fairview_%40_South_Fairview_Avenue_in_Montauk%3B_Stop_at_Stop_Line.jpg/640px-Fairview_%40_South_Fairview_Avenue_in_Montauk%3B_Stop_at_Stop_Line.jpg)
So is there some standard to it?

I saw an updated GSV of the intersection, and that banner is much more red now.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.0494205,-71.9319481,3a,75y,177.9h,104.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPN4CpVu3nl-yxxEFSWmRiA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu

The stop sign and placard appear to be the same color in both to me.

Since you brought up MUTCD compliance... The better question is why is the stop sign posted so far back from the intersection and stop line? (It seriously looks like two car lengths!) I see no reason why the stop sign couldn't have been posted next to the street name post. The location is not MUTCD-compliant, and if the sign had been posted in compliance, then the placard would not have been necessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 30, 2024, 01:20:40 PM
When I took that picture though, the placard seemed a lot darker. It's so maroon it's almost brown. I actually thought somebody from the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation put it up. Even if it were the same color, the size just seems a bit off. That's where my doubts about MUTCD-compliance comes into play.


Anyway, here's another sign that's not MUTCD-compliant in the US, but seems to be okay in Japan;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Slippery_road_sign%EF%BC%88Snow_and_rain%EF%BC%89.jpg/640px-Slippery_road_sign%EF%BC%88Snow_and_rain%EF%BC%89.jpg)
I like this one.



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 30, 2024, 01:56:29 PM
On US 58 BUS (Martinsville) WB/VA 57 WB in Martinsville (I think at Fairy St).  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924662347439&set=a.10219924741669422)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53498840335_2df12acdaa_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on January 30, 2024, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on January 30, 2024, 01:20:40 PM
Anyway, here's another sign that's not MUTCD-compliant in the US, but seems to be okay in Japan;
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Slippery_road_sign%EF%BC%88Snow_and_rain%EF%BC%89.jpg/640px-Slippery_road_sign%EF%BC%88Snow_and_rain%EF%BC%89.jpg)
I like this one.

That's actually rather cute. Of course, it could be represented in a more "serious" way.
(https://i.imgur.com/Guxlc8Z.png)



I figured that I could also redo the image before it, since it looks questionable (in terms of design) at the very least.
(https://i.imgur.com/5gZrGEs.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on January 30, 2024, 05:40:04 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53499157199
The way the two different size GA shields don't line up side by side.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on January 31, 2024, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: Shedingtonian on January 30, 2024, 04:49:13 PM
That's actually rather cute. Of course, it could be represented in a more "serious" way.
(https://i.imgur.com/Guxlc8Z.png)
More than likely, you'd have the standard MUTCD W8-5 sign with a supplemental plaque that reads "RAIN OR SNOW" or "RAIN AND SNOW." And I'd be okay with that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on January 31, 2024, 05:51:09 PM
At the Smith River Dam in Martinsville, VA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924679067857&set=a.10219924741669422)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501431789_ff861d7cb8_c.jpg)

On US 220 BUS (Martinsville) SB at SR 782 and SR F836 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924690228136&set=a.10219924741669422)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501636350_c80816c878_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501366288_c53a993704_c.jpg)

On US 58 EB at the east end of the Martinsville Bypass (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924699348364&set=a.10219924741669422)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501589899_e67eb2478a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501589879_be2211710d_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501436808_fb1d2eb8b1_c.jpg)

On VA 57 WB west of US 220 BUS (Martinsville)/VA 457 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924722748949&set=a.10219924741669422)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53501452291_c649b5d138_c.jpg)

On VA 371 EB east of SR 714 at Patrick and Henry Community College (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924564184985&set=a.10219924741669422)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53503407604_54762af4d5_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mr. Matté on February 02, 2024, 11:20:25 AM
A coworker shared this with me from Marlton, NJ:
(https://i.imgur.com/UyhsOTw.png)

I happened to bike near the actual location of the place recently and indeed the logo for the dispensary is in the shape of a US route shield. Ironically per this location of this sign (https://maps.app.goo.gl/EGkjU7PSh4hBiU3x7), if you were looking for NJ Route 90, you'd be going in the absolute opposite direction (since it's further north on Route 73, this sign is essentially putting you onto southbound 73).

ETA: Link to the actual Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/AViewFromEvesham/posts/pfbid0snFzqbgLXA9jfet76njbWPyA8KjdVkivyKQJ8aGekE3CkqMPFjWPjxBZLE2JdoD3l) and image of the company logo:
(https://i.imgur.com/1Z68ATt.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 02, 2024, 11:25:37 AM
^^ What I don't like is that those signs are placed too close to each other, partially obscuring the signs behind them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 02, 2024, 03:13:37 PM
On I-77 NB north of US 52/VA 42 (not sure why VDOT is using Truck Escape Ramp instead of Runaway Truck Ramp) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219926577675321&set=a.10219926632556693)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53504844751_674006f886_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53504844761_13c35607fe_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 04, 2024, 08:01:45 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/UYVJvvLLpts4eWGE8
The number 3 inside the NJ 3 shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 04, 2024, 11:43:26 AM
I-76 is actually posted with the PENNA TURNPIKE shield here on US 322 EB at PA 117 in Palmyra. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219934487713067&set=a.10219934523073951)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53508583088_d92858dfb8_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53508416661_2171ff5e03_c.jpg)

On US 322 EB in Ephrata, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219934504513487&set=a.10219934523073951)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53508664021_71887fd2bb_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219934511033650&set=a.10219934523073951) (There were other Public Parking signs like this one nearby.)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53509194710_3cabcc7ef1_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 04, 2024, 04:00:48 PM
I immediately thought of Palmayra when I saw the PA 117 shields. However I was slightly off as US 322 just barely misses that Borough to the south.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 04, 2024, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 04, 2024, 04:00:48 PM
I immediately thought of Palmayra when I saw the PA 117 shields. However I was slightly off as US 322 just barely misses that Borough to the south.

The area is referred to as Campbelltown, but the addresses all say Palmyra hence why I put that as the location.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 04, 2024, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 04, 2024, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 04, 2024, 04:00:48 PM
I immediately thought of Palmayra when I saw the PA 117 shields. However I was slightly off as US 322 just barely misses that Borough to the south.

The area is referred to as Campbelltown, but the addresses all say Palmyra hence why I put that as the location.

The post Office always considers things differently, like with New York. Only the Borough of Manhattan is New York, NY while three other boroughs are considered cities of their own except Queens where the PO recognizes each neighborhood handled by an individual branch as a city.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on February 04, 2024, 07:53:47 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 31, 2024, 05:51:09 PM
At the Smith River Dam in Martinsville, VA. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219924679067857&set=a.10219924741669422)


That sign reminded me of one I saw in Fayette County, WV near the Hawks Nest Dam. It's actually a bit unsettling.
(https://i.postimg.cc/662X48tV/IMG-6951.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 04, 2024, 09:18:45 PM
On I-78 EB/US 22 EB in NJ approaching Exit 6 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945694913240&set=a.10219945912918690)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53508665182_2d37bb4e39_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53509724283_818e45bef7_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53509724303_d9d68a4ecc_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53509724288_65c0a0ec4c_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on February 04, 2024, 11:30:09 PM
Hopewell, VA is very inconsistent with how they sign things. A good example of this would be how they sign for the city visitor center:

On 6th Ave:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/D4gMnFuLVABGoZzK6

Nearing 6th Ave and Winston Churchill Dr:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/T7hSdKyg448mKdj7A

On Winston Churchill Dr (with a bonus unreadable sign):
https://maps.app.goo.gl/fwReX7XRUAEkpyD17

Eventually Winston Churchill Dr becomes Woodlawn St:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/FLHSEBX6odrJjx7m9

Coming up on the intersection of Woodlawn St and Ashland St:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ytA2h8x8eeE1TEoV9

And on Ashland St, where it suddenly becomes the "WELCOME CENTER":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DoAgYWDQs3iudCKRA
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 05, 2024, 02:28:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TwNVGDS1uA3QFR557
Maybe this should be sine sale, but the fact  FDOT mentions all three N-S freeways of Brevard County, FL on one sign assembly, but posts the Turnpike first before I-95 is odd. The order SR 870 reaches each is, I-95, Florida's Turnpike, and then SR 869 ( Sawgrass Expressway).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 05, 2024, 02:22:06 PM
I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1000104,-80.6399166,3a,75y,245.86h,89.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfOddtoNRXmXciDYuHaMyJQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) while browsing around Youngstown, OH, in GSV on Andrews St at Rayen Ave.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 7/8 on February 05, 2024, 04:09:40 PM
This sign (https://www.google.ca/maps/@42.594376,-82.4677885,3a,19.4y,289.83h,86.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ss8UTyM1wk8qSCJI5Lco71A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) says "Ferry to USA" both straight and right.
1) Talk about confusing, they take you different ferries and the sign should explain that
2) One of the two ferries closed in 2018 (with the boats sold in 2020), and yet in the 2023 street view, they still haven't taken the one pointing right down
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 05, 2024, 07:21:32 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on February 05, 2024, 04:09:40 PM
This sign (https://www.google.ca/maps/@42.594376,-82.4677885,3a,19.4y,289.83h,86.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ss8UTyM1wk8qSCJI5Lco71A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) says "Ferry to USA" both straight and right.
1) Talk about confusing, they take you different ferries and the sign should explain that
2) One of the two ferries closed in 2018 (with the boats sold in 2020), and yet in the 2023 street view, they still haven't taken the one pointing right down

And just down the road: NOOKSHAKAAN (https://maps.app.goo.gl/wFa6prSntEQKbpoT9).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ErmineNotyours on February 05, 2024, 07:25:03 PM
^^^ And on the other side of the water: Yellow diamond advisory DO NOT ENTER (https://maps.app.goo.gl/sjNtkZxo2ZFpyonj8).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 06, 2024, 02:07:48 PM
On US 1 SB/US 9 SB at North Ave in Elizabeth. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945769955116&set=a.10219945912918690)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53513436964_1bfc7c3850_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on February 06, 2024, 03:53:59 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 04, 2024, 09:18:45 PM
On I-78 EB/US 22 EB in NJ approaching Exit 6 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945694913240&set=a.10219945912918690)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53509724283_818e45bef7_c.jpg)


Wait... That weigh station's actually open??! o:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 06, 2024, 06:19:54 PM
On US 9 SB at Union Hill Rd in Marlboro, NJ.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945824436478&set=a.10219945912918690)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53513562256_0a39d12aee_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53512677252_c40e4ca4e3_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53514001145_b8cd24d39e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on February 06, 2024, 07:37:49 PM
That's very interesting. Most places would just sign the whole thing as the minimum clearance (in this case 13' 8").

The closest thing to this I can think of right now is along the PA Tpk where the original overpasses still exists.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/TnyUysin5wkbBjCh7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 06, 2024, 08:28:06 PM
On US 9 SB at NJ 88 EB in Lakewood, NJ. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219945885037993&set=a.10219945912918690)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53514061034_172466515b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 06, 2024, 09:00:46 PM
Well, this is interesting.  Canadian crossing design, but with a mostly-US spec ENS sign, except there's no crossing number and it's bilingual.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7FSH44zSR5DrWxmW9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 06, 2024, 09:50:24 PM
Big directionality text at the junction of WA 10 and WA 970.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZtWgbcp4rtyz85FB8 (WA 10 westbound terminus)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eNUW2bX44rVCfsHz8 (WA 970 eastbound)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GjQ8no5o35ucTLhG8 (WA 970 westbound)

As well as before the junction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/WEseKcrQ4r9SHd1a8 (WA 970 eastbound)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/8jaSBRsbvQCaBWuC6 (WA 970 westbound)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 07, 2024, 12:05:25 PM
This sign is at a church near where I live. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219958150184614&set=a.10219841211181212)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53515154963_9a59bf417a_c.jpg)

On NJ 79 NB at Elm St in Freehold (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946623656458&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53515330651_4067b4a554_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946626056518&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53515791290_44125fffb4_c.jpg)

In Highlands, NJ, on NJ 36, we get Coastal Evacuation Route instead of Hurricane Evacuation Route.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946690258123&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53515708261_a20ba10291_c.jpg)

Near the southern terminus of NJ 36 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946714258723&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53515902491_e31627759f_c.jpg)

On Atlantic Ave east of NJ 34 in Matawan (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946740059368&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53516123673_dc50a2b20e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on February 08, 2024, 03:03:39 PM
"Merge Left After Signal":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9JTsnRnD4FtqqAED6

"CAUTION, REDUCE SPEED":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2TpR5Wc2EDPGDMMk9

"STOP. DO NOT ENTER."
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9D5frN4Nczq5WyvQ6

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: StogieGuy7 on February 08, 2024, 04:46:41 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 07, 2024, 12:05:25 PM
On Atlantic Ave east of NJ 34 in Matawan (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946740059368&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53516123673_dc50a2b20e_c.jpg)

What this sign says is extremely dickish. Mandatory court date for ALL moving violations? Total BS. As if the court system in NJ has the time and resources for BS like this.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 08, 2024, 05:33:07 PM
On US 9 NB north of NJ 184/CR 501 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946525654008&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53517875925_1cde2be4f3_c.jpg)

On US 9 NB near CR 514 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946526214022&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53517462341_6e24dda914_c.jpg)

On US 1 NB/US 9 NB approaching CR 650 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219947050067118&set=a.10219947253192196)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53517799414_07a957dfe9_c.jpg)

On US 1 NB/US 9 NB near Haynes Ave by Newark Airport (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219947079267848&set=a.10219947253192196)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53516667167_d8f2ebcfeb_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on February 08, 2024, 07:12:07 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on February 08, 2024, 04:46:41 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 07, 2024, 12:05:25 PM
On Atlantic Ave east of NJ 34 in Matawan (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219946740059368&set=a.10219946769140095)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53516123673_dc50a2b20e_c.jpg)

What this sign says is extremely dickish. Mandatory court date for ALL moving violations? Total BS. As if the court system in NJ has the time and resources for BS like this.

You think that's bad, you should see what they want you to do in the Walmart Enforcement Area.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 08, 2024, 08:33:03 PM
On I-78 WB at Berkeley Heights/Scotch Plains (Exit 41) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219947098708334&set=a.10219947253192196) (yeah, the light pole partially blocks it, but I think you get the point.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53516797072_b33e3af9e1_c.jpg)

And the mile marker blocks "U-TURN EXIT 40"

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53516802927_ba8463dd9f_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2024, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 06, 2024, 09:00:46 PM
Well, this is interesting.  Canadian crossing design, but with a mostly-US spec ENS sign, except there's no crossing number and it's bilingual.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7FSH44zSR5DrWxmW9

CN's started installing those on their Canadian crossings recently. It's essentially the ENS sign they use for their crossings here in the US, but adapted for use in Canada.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 09, 2024, 02:59:37 PM
The bridge being referred to here is I-83 actually where Derry St passes underneath it.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219968516843774&set=a.10219841211181212)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53519606595_c96643ffe6_c.jpg)

There are a few of these signs around the Wawa on PA 100 at Schantz Rd.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219947199230847&set=a.10219947253192196)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53519498209_a314a83075_c.jpg)

By the Sheetz on PA 863 just north of I-78/US 22 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219947209711109&set=a.10219947253192196)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53519416228_1250d9b8b8_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53519678090_8235bb3819_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53519416213_779fd9c1f5_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 11, 2024, 08:38:46 PM
On I-81 NB approaching PA 54 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980105533484&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53523664926_4513ae5904_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 11, 2024, 08:39:23 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53523337326
Should be a TO US 264 shield only. Or better yet use a double headed arrow on the WB shield being NB I-795 connects to WB US 264 as well
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: SilverMustang2011 on February 12, 2024, 11:35:12 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/V9DUoWHjD58ZhjQz7

Saw this sign at State Road 77 and I-10 in Florida yesterday and it just made me ask H O W  S P A C E D  O U T  D I D  T H E Y  N E E D  T H E S E  L E T T E R S  T O  B E ?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 13, 2024, 07:10:04 AM
On I-87 SB/I-287 EB approaching everyone's favorite bridge (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980216136249&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53526983565_96abfaaf9b_c.jpg)

At the Northern Westchester Hospital by the intersection of NY 117 and NY 172 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980236736764&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527580745_a3416d95fc_c.jpg)

Further north on NY 117 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980152614661&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527625370_808999aa24_c.jpg)





Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on February 13, 2024, 03:05:39 PM
From a drawings set for a recently advertised contract for modernization of the DN 73 in Romania.  Offered without comment.

(https://i.imgur.com/VPgqdty.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on February 13, 2024, 03:06:32 PM
Gravity assist?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 13, 2024, 03:09:28 PM
I know some people here are anal about roundabouts, but come on...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 13, 2024, 03:27:39 PM
At a Mobil Gas Station in Wilton, CT. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980304258452&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527570188_56b9853e6e_c.jpg)

At the DMV in Norwalk, CT.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980305098473&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527403221_8e75ea0273_c.jpg)

Some along the Hutchinson River Pkwy between NY 984J (I-684 connector) and NY 127 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980930674112&set=pcb.10219981105758489)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53528235920_cce9ac51ac_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53526903412_b25a5cd716_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53528113664_3974805bdf_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53526897897_14fc93a8e5_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527973478_13533149fb_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 13, 2024, 08:08:50 PM
^^ photo 4:  Since when is an overheight vehicle an emergency?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 13, 2024, 08:12:33 PM
Quote from: Big John on February 13, 2024, 08:08:50 PM
^^ photo 4:  Since when is an overheight vehicle an emergency?

If it's a NY Parkway many bridges lack adequate headroom for tall vehicles hence the Passenger car only rule.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: FrCorySticha on February 13, 2024, 09:56:56 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 13, 2024, 03:27:39 PM
At the DMV in Norwalk, CT.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980305098473&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53527403221_8e75ea0273_c.jpg)


So does that mean that the police are watching the lot, or that this also means the police can't park there after hours? /s
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 13, 2024, 10:03:13 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5WgPXdv429qGWEiNA
This sign is very odd. US 77 ends at I-29. It don't join it. Plus NB I-29 departs from the left.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 14, 2024, 08:29:51 AM
The NY 120A bridge over CT 15/Hutchinson River Pkwy is the 22 ton bridge.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980956594760&set=pcb.10219981105758489)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53529143050_56f7649565_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on February 14, 2024, 08:50:42 AM
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 13, 2024, 03:05:39 PM
From a drawings set for a recently advertised contract for modernization of the DN 73 in Romania.  Offered without comment.

(https://i.imgur.com/VPgqdty.png)

Looks to me like the best way to sign a slip lane that avoids the roundabout. Here's a similar situation in Spain, for all three directions  (https://maps.app.goo.gl/aSxANZErVBaA5Rm99).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 14, 2024, 09:02:55 AM
^^The 73 shield looks like a US highway shield except for no point at the top center.  And the km in front of the stationing is redundant as 3 digits after the plus sign means it is metric stationing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 14, 2024, 09:23:44 AM
On NY 120A SB at Ridge St heading west from Port Chester (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980961594885&set=pcb.10219981105758489)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53528796326_cd5d284dfc_c.jpg)

On NY 120 NB approaching I-287 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980962514908&set=pcb.10219981105758489)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53529134414_d6b1dc1995_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Alex4897 on February 14, 2024, 10:49:03 AM
New signs were posted at the intersection of Delaware SR 1 and Cave Neck Road near Lewes warning drivers to, you know, not turn into oncoming traffic:

(https://www.capegazette.com/sites/capegazette/files/2024/02/field/image/_DSC8339.JPG)
Courtesy of Cape Gazette. (https://www.capegazette.com/article/more-improvements-route-1-cave-neck-intersection/270759)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on February 14, 2024, 12:33:07 PM
Quote from: Alex4897 on February 14, 2024, 10:49:03 AM

(https://www.capegazette.com/sites/capegazette/files/2024/02/field/image/_DSC8339.JPG)
Courtesy of Cape Gazette. (https://www.capegazette.com/article/more-improvements-route-1-cave-neck-intersection/270759)


Awwwww, the cars are kissing!   :love:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on February 14, 2024, 12:40:59 PM
^^ But neither look like the Love Bug (Herbie).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 14, 2024, 01:13:13 PM
Exit gore point sign for Exit 105 A and B on Interstate 5 southbound in Washington: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DWDqPJ94r5FiSxcB9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 14, 2024, 01:29:04 PM
The Keehelus Lake corridor along Snoqualmie Pass on Interstate 90 westbound has these decimal mile markers hanging on the electronic message signs: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xiG2HuaPKdcsrwNe6 In addition to the normal whole number mileposts on the ground, as seen here farther up: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4wqqi3yM7RiTw9XT6

Heading down the pass, WSDOT has this milepost 51.25 instead of just a normal milepost 151 like on the other side 0.25 miles back: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GtUhGuN6XMF4uYtG7 It's not clear here because it's all beaten up, but can be seen better in earlier captures.

Interstate 5 in the Seattle area also has decimal mile markers, at least northbound does that I recall, the only difference being that they use the normal green signage. Northbound Interstate 5: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9YiVz6vS22bAhqoL6 And then, of course, the normal whole number one just farther up: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KraEjv1yXzSoomhk8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 14, 2024, 06:49:53 PM
I don't consider this completely erroneous, as the information is correct, so I'm posting it here. On US Route 97 northbound in Biggs Junction, Oregon, the control cities are ordered incorrectly: https://maps.app.goo.gl/cPWMZvNp4r7CyiLe9 The control location with the greater distance should be on the bottom, so Yakima should be on the bottom and Goldendale on the top. Same with the sign on the I-84 westbound off-ramp: https://maps.app.goo.gl/defNVmbVxh2DYdjZ7 Yakima should be on the bottom.  And the same for this sign before the eastbound I-84 entrance: https://maps.app.goo.gl/iZgWMHyzkkbTcGwb7 They got it correct on the I-84 eastbound off-ramp, though, so I don't know why the other places have it wrong: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MUaC3PiXz66tQ9rz8

Goldendale wasn't even mentioned before this interchange was redesigned, as seen here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xWdNzB3GrBrgMJ4w7 And here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/iEuJ2ZyKhfWSTLfH6

Also note that after the interchange redesign, they also got the order of the I-84 and US 30 shields wrong. Interstates are always the primary route over US or state routes, so the I-84 shield should be on the left and the US 30 shield on the right. As can be seen here after the interchange's redesign was complete, they incorrectly have the I-84 shield on the right and the US 30 shield on the left.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tyaVnynTi6XfE4ZNA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9TRJewDGC1vPprvo9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EesQKmva6K3UNH9k9 (This one they forgot to even mention the concurrency with US 30.)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2MS3wuoxoWKSpwe59
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Tp13SutAhVs9xvkQ8

Before the redesign when the order was correct, in order of the above:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ochtxsPJ1JFFpYT58
https://maps.app.goo.gl/46LKDNtNtngRZbSm9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zncdWjnHjpKeuAfz6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/w7pqx78ikKRYCJue6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MRELMvfA4P7bU89s6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: CovalenceSTU on February 14, 2024, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 13, 2024, 10:03:13 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5WgPXdv429qGWEiNA
This sign is very odd. US 77 ends at I-29. It don't join it. Plus NB I-29 departs from the left.
Also of note is the "P R E P A R E TO STOP WHEN F L A S H I N G" right behind, and street names in what looks like compressed Impact:
(https://i.imgur.com/UHX4K7V.png)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 14, 2024, 08:29:30 PM
At the north end of the US 6/PA 191 concurrency in Honesdale (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219981240721863&set=pcb.10219981315323728)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53528978822_74fe33193d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 14, 2024, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: Amaury on February 14, 2024, 01:29:04 PM
The Keehelus Lake corridor along Snoqualmie Pass on Interstate 90 westbound has these decimal mile markers hanging on the electronic message signs: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xiG2HuaPKdcsrwNe6 In addition to the normal whole number mileposts on the ground, as seen here farther up: https://maps.app.goo.gl/4wqqi3yM7RiTw9XT6

Heading down the pass, WSDOT has this milepost 51.25 instead of just a normal milepost 151 like on the other side 0.25 miles back: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GtUhGuN6XMF4uYtG7 It's not clear here because it's all beaten up, but can be seen better in earlier captures.

Interstate 5 in the Seattle area also has decimal mile markers, at least northbound does that I recall, the only difference being that they use the normal green signage. Northbound Interstate 5: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9YiVz6vS22bAhqoL6 And then, of course, the normal whole number one just farther up: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KraEjv1yXzSoomhk8
That last one is literally the standard MUTCD tenth mile marker, used in many different places.  The first two are interesting though (especially the second).  The first reminds me of how the Thruway signs emergency vehicle turnarounds (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0795014,-75.1101709,3a,22.2y,277.61h,87.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn6mJgiGjhoPRMYLY_GjgZQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) (I-81, meanwhile, numbers them sequentially (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.337124,-75.9862538,3a,46.6y,8.66h,83.25t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdv13aEFVDNhVYPLwM6EDyg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Ddv13aEFVDNhVYPLwM6EDyg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D45.602234%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) from the Onondaga/Oswego County line to the Canadian border; Region 7 likes them so so much I-781 has a similar system, as does I-87 in Clinton County).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 17, 2024, 02:35:58 PM
This is in my city on West University Way: https://maps.app.goo.gl/7HwgJeBsAKn2kyZc8

Every other sign I've seen just says day and night, such as here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/tRTqdNu9H79v8jtA8

Although I don't know if the $101 on the sign in my city is correct or not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 17, 2024, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 14, 2024, 08:29:30 PM
At the north end of the US 6/PA 191 concurrency in Honesdale (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219981240721863&set=pcb.10219981315323728)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53528978822_74fe33193d_c.jpg)

The NTOR you mean.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 17, 2024, 03:30:08 PM
^It is definitely "NO LEFT TURN ON RED",  US 6 EB/PA 191 SB are on a one-way street heading left from US 6 WB/PA 191 NB here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jlam on February 18, 2024, 10:29:20 PM
I didn't get a good picture, but there is a sign on SB I-25 near Loveland that signs exit 254 as "Compion" (A comically large "C" and a misspelling of Campion). The sign is relatively new since GSV from September still has its old signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on February 20, 2024, 06:00:42 PM
I didn't get any pictures, but I noticed in a couple counties of PA (Lackawanna and Luzerne) on 81 that the mile markers aren't like "Mile 123.4". They're like "Mile 123 4/10".
And it's not every single one either, but it's a good amount of them

Example - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.479695,-75.6816224,3a,15y,247.35h,83.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd9rcaG-2TDWu8gBOiTg0RQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 20, 2024, 07:13:07 PM
On US 395 southbound, just east of Kettle Falls, Washington, the bottom sign's color does not match that of the bigger sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/m657kpyugFec5G1h7 When they changed the bigger the sign, they didn't update the bottom sign to match: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dbG4CgsM64o6pcBh8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 20, 2024, 07:33:21 PM
Let us continue with the only-somewhat-odd:

Mississippi River Trail shield in New Roads, LA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53542300228_4edc9c622a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pzmhto)

Speed Breaker Ahead in Houma, LA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53542442704_a5988da30a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pzn1PS)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on February 20, 2024, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2024, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 06, 2024, 09:00:46 PM
Well, this is interesting.  Canadian crossing design, but with a mostly-US spec ENS sign, except there's no crossing number and it's bilingual.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7FSH44zSR5DrWxmW9

CN's started installing those on their Canadian crossings recently. It's essentially the ENS sign they use for their crossings here in the US, but adapted for use in Canada.
So, what are the typical Canadian versions of these signs like? And do they vary by province or territory?

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 20, 2024, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: AABattery on February 20, 2024, 06:00:42 PM
I didn't get any pictures, but I noticed in a couple counties of PA (Lackawanna and Luzerne) on 81 that the mile markers aren't like "Mile 123.4". They're like "Mile 123 4/10".
And it's not every single one either, but it's a good amount of them

Example - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.479695,-75.6816224,3a,15y,247.35h,83.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd9rcaG-2TDWu8gBOiTg0RQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This one is on I-81 NB in Hazleton.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980084492958&set=a.10219980370460107)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53542396993_cabdff5839_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 20, 2024, 08:55:31 PM
Quote from: Rothman on February 20, 2024, 07:33:21 PMSpeed Breaker Ahead in Houma, LA:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53542442704_a5988da30a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pzn1PS)

Is that supposed to be a fancy way of saying speed bump? LOL
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: cockroachking on February 20, 2024, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 20, 2024, 08:50:19 PM
Quote from: AABattery on February 20, 2024, 06:00:42 PM
I didn't get any pictures, but I noticed in a couple counties of PA (Lackawanna and Luzerne) on 81 that the mile markers aren't like "Mile 123.4". They're like "Mile 123 4/10".
And it's not every single one either, but it's a good amount of them

Example - https://www.google.com/maps/@41.479695,-75.6816224,3a,15y,247.35h,83.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd9rcaG-2TDWu8gBOiTg0RQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This one is on I-81 NB in Hazleton.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219980084492958&set=a.10219980370460107)

[image snipped]
There are a bunch (or at least were as of a year ago) on I-84 in PA as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 21, 2024, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on February 20, 2024, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on February 09, 2024, 02:02:33 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 06, 2024, 09:00:46 PM
Well, this is interesting.  Canadian crossing design, but with a mostly-US spec ENS sign, except there's no crossing number and it's bilingual.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/7FSH44zSR5DrWxmW9

CN's started installing those on their Canadian crossings recently. It's essentially the ENS sign they use for their crossings here in the US, but adapted for use in Canada.
So, what are the typical Canadian versions of these signs like? And do they vary by province or territory?



According to a Canadian railfan I know, the blue signs became standard up there in 2018. The one in the link is a variation, apparently CN only uses those around Québec & New Brunswick, which are bilingual (I guess the ones outside of there aren't). All of the ones CP(KC) uses in Canada are bilingual, however, and also feature the crossing's number on them. Prior to 2018, the standard ENS "sign" was the yellow sticker that were traditionally seen on Canadian crossings.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 21, 2024, 01:03:37 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9NEPDjiDq959y3Hi9
Exit 23 on US 27 in Florida. This route don't use exit numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on February 21, 2024, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 21, 2024, 01:03:37 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9NEPDjiDq959y3Hi9
Exit 23 on US 27 in Florida. This route don't use exit numbers.

Another interesting thing are the two round plaques right behind that exit number sign. "DRIVE SAFELY, IN MEMORY [unintelligible]"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 22, 2024, 07:34:06 AM
Stretching a trailblazer assembly horizontally on US-36 in Mt. Vernon, OH:

(https://i.imgur.com/BLoiNs1.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 24, 2024, 12:18:30 PM
The way PennDOT signs the PA Turnpike.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/V2THqz9JbvspmzgP7
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DL8Cw4YtwKJxnK336

Same road, but one direction uses a shield while the other uses text for the same Turnpike that the freeway indirectly connect to.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 24, 2024, 02:10:56 PM
^  That brings to mind the design of the advance signs on I-96 at US-23 in Brighton.  These were all in the same construction/signing project.

Westbound, the US-23 shields are to the left of the control cities, making the signs close enough in height that they're mounted on the gantries with the bottom edges lined up:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/CT6hJ44LnUPKUuRQ9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3y7kzokxr3VxiTPLA

Eastbound, the US-23 shields are above the control cities, making the signs so dissimilar in height that they're mounted unevenly on the gantries:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/vdHQVKpHhnuMbP749
https://maps.app.goo.gl/STZPh7NdoCNr9TSK6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 24, 2024, 04:23:37 PM
This sign for Washington State Route 821 certainly seems unique. This is on the Interstate 82 westbound Exit 26 off-ramp: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xk2Fj5KKwUswdayb9

I'm using the 2007 capture with not as great quality because the other captures, including the latest for in 2019 for the off-ramp don't have it, but it was finally "recently" reinstalled in the field either in 2020 or 2021. (You can see it here from the freeway, it's just far away: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ycdLbQWycUqv98VF8) Anyway, just an SR 821 shield on a green background. No north directionality (since that's the southern terminus of the route, though I think technically the terminus is at the eastbound I-82 on and off ramps), no left arrow, no JCT, no TO. Just that.

Edit: It also seems like a redundant sign, given this one a little farther back: https://maps.app.goo.gl/HkTZdAuou1bKMAfs7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: vdeane on February 24, 2024, 10:35:28 PM
The sign on I-87 south for the Village of Colonie has had a damaged V (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7178764,-73.8150355,3a,19.1y,252.36h,89.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s93yWqvH3X3bUeg54b6-ekw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) for years.  It got patched just a couple weeks ago and looked nice for two days before it was replaced with this (https://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=i87a&state=NY&file=102_6591.JPG).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on February 26, 2024, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 24, 2024, 10:35:28 PM
The sign on I-87 south for the Village of Colonie has had a damaged V (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7178764,-73.8150355,3a,19.1y,252.36h,89.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s93yWqvH3X3bUeg54b6-ekw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) for years.  It got patched just a couple weeks ago and looked nice for two days before it was replaced with this (https://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=i87a&state=NY&file=102_6591.JPG).

Ah, so that's where the Illagers (https://minecraft.wiki/w/Illager) live.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 26, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on February 26, 2024, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 24, 2024, 10:35:28 PM
The sign on I-87 south for the Village of Colonie has had a damaged V (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7178764,-73.8150355,3a,19.1y,252.36h,89.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s93yWqvH3X3bUeg54b6-ekw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) for years.  It got patched just a couple weeks ago and looked nice for two days before it was replaced with this (https://nysroads.com/photos.php?route=i87a&state=NY&file=102_6591.JPG).

Ah, so that's where the Illagers (https://minecraft.wiki/w/Illager) live.
What about the Ilanders? (https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/13cg85f/that_time_they_misspelled_the_islanders_on_the/)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 26, 2024, 07:12:17 PM
The end of one avenue and the beginning of another...but which is which?  Squint to honor our veterans in Lyndhurst, NJ:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53554612555_999a9f95bc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pArouT)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on February 27, 2024, 01:46:39 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/17onFnZZNCLf9BAR6
The shields on this guide at the north end of US 45E in South Fulton, TN have a lot to be desired for.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 27, 2024, 06:49:13 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on February 27, 2024, 01:46:39 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/17onFnZZNCLf9BAR6
The shields on this guide at the north end of US 45E in South Fulton, TN have a lot to be desired for.
So, they're faded, or am I missing something?  There's a faded beyond all recognition thread.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 27, 2024, 07:15:59 AM
On I-64 WB approaching US 13 (and unsigned VA 166)  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220040951694600&set=a.10220041282142861)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53555694924_a57b193ebe_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53554505392_920a6fd26e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on February 27, 2024, 07:56:56 PM
Huge I-59 Detour sign; the northbound ramp from Alabama 117 was under construction, so the advice was to take US 11...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53556524921_f1ff04c33e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pABbYH)

...since I couldn't pick up that section of US 11 a few years back, because one of its bridges was washed out; so now I am able to clinch it from New Orleans to Chattanooga.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on February 28, 2024, 03:46:51 AM
Not a sign, but still interesting, though I wonder if it's just something for them to use when they finally get around to reinstalling the milepost here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oFktCrWNSfDcHCah6 Although I don't know what 6400 stands for. The post was either crashed into or wood rot occurred and was last seen standing in an October 2019 capture: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9zyoUkDXjb5UAd8BA

This is on Interstate 82 westbound at milepost 88 in Washington.

Side note: The wrong color was used for the directionality banner.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 28, 2024, 07:12:36 AM
On I-264 WB in Norfolk approaching unsigned VA 405 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220042510453568&set=a.10220042611176086)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53557790170_94aa08fa1f_c.jpg)

And approaching I-464 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220042519773801&set=a.10220042611176086)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53557572288_8cedcd295f_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53557374126_8aa8cc393b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on February 28, 2024, 08:04:40 AM
A TO would be useful here. This is NJ 3, which will soon split up into NJ 495 and US 1-9.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/wUCG8SwyrEs8xorX6
They did use TO here tho
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gkE3zMXJQ1YFLy9Z9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on February 28, 2024, 01:33:16 PM
On VA 168 SB north of US 460 in Norfolk (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220042605615947&set=a.10220042611176086)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53558165028_a0000b671f_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on February 28, 2024, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: formulanone on February 27, 2024, 07:56:56 PM
Huge I-59 Detour sign; the northbound ramp from Alabama 117 was under construction, so the advice was to take US 11...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53556524921_f1ff04c33e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pABbYH)

...since I couldn't pick up that section of US 11 a few years back, because one of its bridges was washed out; so now I am able to clinch it from New Orleans to Chattanooga.

Non-cutout too. Seems whatever contractor that is likes to use them.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: thenetwork on February 29, 2024, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 28, 2024, 01:33:16 PM
On VA 168 SB north of US 460 in Norfolk (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220042605615947&set=a.10220042611176086)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53558165028_a0000b671f_c.jpg)



So the main idea the city wants to convey is that the ROAD is COLD!!!
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on February 29, 2024, 09:29:52 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 29, 2024, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on February 28, 2024, 01:33:16 PM
On VA 168 SB north of US 460 in Norfolk (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220042605615947&set=a.10220042611176086)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53558165028_a0000b671f_c.jpg)



So the main idea the city wants to convey is that the ROAD is COLD!!!
Don't forget its booties.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on February 29, 2024, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: Amaury on February 28, 2024, 03:46:51 AM
Not a sign, but still interesting, though I wonder if it's just something for them to use when they finally get around to reinstalling the milepost here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oFktCrWNSfDcHCah6 Although I don't know what 6400 stands for. The post was either crashed into or wood rot occurred and was last seen standing in an October 2019 capture: https://maps.app.goo.gl/9zyoUkDXjb5UAd8BA

This is on Interstate 82 westbound at milepost 88 in Washington.

Side note: The wrong color was used for the directionality banner.

Most likely, 6400 is a engineer's station or control point reference, typically used in engineering drawings to denote the location of highway objects based on a reference line on plans.

Surveyors use the station to identify the location of all things on a roadway based on a reference line (sometimes, but not always the centerline of the overall highway or center of the carriageway for divided highways), such as the begin/end points of curves, locations of culverts, and signs. Typically there's a line reference and a decimal point—something like "L" 450+00 or "R1" 1425+36—and a reference to the distance left or right of the line, but some of that can be omitted if some of that information is implied by context.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on February 29, 2024, 05:18:06 PM
Talk of the former McDonald's off I-44 in Wellston, OK (in the Former McDonald's Stands thread) made me look at Google Maps to see what that area looks like now.  And I saw this:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/edP43LZDoPTjvCEz6

Okay, I've seen NO RE-ENTRY and PAY TOLL yellow banners on toll road exit signs, but I've never before seen NO REFUNDS.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Sani on March 02, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
I happened across this one in Tulsa the other day.

In 2011, this was a perfectly good sign gantry: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xgStboN6Uw5KZpZt5

Some construction in 2014 replaced the signs with temporary orange ones: https://maps.app.goo.gl/m2ujr4hqxgcxr5aAA

Once construction ended, we got... whatever the hell this is: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KjmrNNBDeAL4vv5Y8

I assume it was "Take Your Kid to Work Day" and someone let their seven-year-old play around in FlexiSign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: LilianaUwU on March 02, 2024, 11:36:03 PM
Quote from: Sani on March 02, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
I happened across this one in Tulsa the other day.

In 2011, this was a perfectly good sign gantry: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xgStboN6Uw5KZpZt5

Some construction in 2014 replaced the signs with temporary orange ones: https://maps.app.goo.gl/m2ujr4hqxgcxr5aAA

Once construction ended, we got... whatever the hell this is: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KjmrNNBDeAL4vv5Y8

I assume it was "Take Your Kid to Work Day" and someone let their seven-year-old play around in FlexiSign.
This is par for the course for Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on March 03, 2024, 06:42:09 AM
Quote from: Sani on March 02, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
I happened across this one in Tulsa the other day.

In 2011, this was a perfectly good sign gantry: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xgStboN6Uw5KZpZt5

Some construction in 2014 replaced the signs with temporary orange ones: https://maps.app.goo.gl/m2ujr4hqxgcxr5aAA

Once construction ended, we got... whatever the hell this is: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KjmrNNBDeAL4vv5Y8

I assume it was "Take Your Kid to Work Day" and someone let their seven-year-old play around in FlexiSign.

Oh, for the mother that brought me into this world... I remember being age ten and my hand drawn signs looked better than that...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Bobby5280 on March 03, 2024, 01:11:56 PM
We have a few of those "beauties" along I-44 and Rogers Lane in Lawton.

Here's one example, a sign where they've replaced worn-out/cracked lettering with the same error-laden layout:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6288846,-98.3873447,3a,75y,182.74h,85.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBDc-A-7AoFHyDwcbTYrqIA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu

Just in case it's hard to spot the errors, notice the oversized "l" in "Plains or the oversized "r" in Auditorium. Some of the letter spacing, particularly on "Auditorium" is wacky. For years they had the word "McMahon" misspelled as "McMahan." They finally corrected that, but did nothing about the other stupid errors.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 03, 2024, 03:00:32 PM
Quote from: Sani on March 02, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
I happened across this one in Tulsa the other day.

In 2011, this was a perfectly good sign gantry: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xgStboN6Uw5KZpZt5

Some construction in 2014 replaced the signs with temporary orange ones: https://maps.app.goo.gl/m2ujr4hqxgcxr5aAA

Once construction ended, we got... whatever the hell this is: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KjmrNNBDeAL4vv5Y8

I assume it was "Take Your Kid to Work Day" and someone let their seven-year-old play around in FlexiSign.

I'm intrigued by the fact that it looks like the original pull through sign on the left was put back up (single arrow over two lanes and all). But the exit direction sign on the right, despite the legend being the same in the before and after versions, got a new sign with awful design practices. Why didn't they reuse the old sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 03, 2024, 08:38:48 PM
It's not just me right? The rest of you think the destinations on this sign are in the wrong positions too?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NB_GA_121-23;_Folkston_36;_St_George_13.jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/NB_GA_121-23%3B_Folkston_36%3B_St_George_13.jpg/640px-NB_GA_121-23%3B_Folkston_36%3B_St_George_13.jpg)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 03, 2024, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on January 11, 2024, 04:24:58 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

I have seen this on PA 26 north of Huntingdon just pass PA 36 heading north. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219595235471973&set=a.10219595326354245) 

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53458251784_aba68bc595_c.jpg)

From a couple months ago.

On I-81 SB just before the merge from I-66 WB (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220064951214573&set=a.10220065049697035)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53566309531_a42139a5f7_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 04, 2024, 11:21:44 AM
I actually wish the farther-away destination were supposed to be at the top.

In my mind, if an up-arrow means "ahead", then a farther-up destination should be farther ahead.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 04, 2024, 12:12:36 PM
I think all states should use Caltrans US shields like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52078058824
Have to admit these do look cool.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 04, 2024, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Sani on March 02, 2024, 11:25:15 PM
I happened across this one in Tulsa the other day.

In 2011, this was a perfectly good sign gantry: https://maps.app.goo.gl/xgStboN6Uw5KZpZt5

Some construction in 2014 replaced the signs with temporary orange ones: https://maps.app.goo.gl/m2ujr4hqxgcxr5aAA

Once construction ended, we got... whatever the hell this is: https://maps.app.goo.gl/KjmrNNBDeAL4vv5Y8

I assume it was "Take Your Kid to Work Day" and someone let their seven-year-old play around in FlexiSign.

Looks like they retained the original sign on the left for re-installation.  I wonder if the contractor damaged the original sign on the right during removal or storage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 04, 2024, 12:45:37 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52048711927
Here's an oddity for Caltrans. Using an actual shield on a guide instead of the normal text shield.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: epzik8 on March 04, 2024, 12:57:34 PM
On the topic of weird fonts, there used to be this on I-95 in Maryland (replaced with the reconfig of exit 77 and then more recently with express lane construction): https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4479092,-76.3272867,3a,37.5y,88.01h,86.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sesaLv7G0D96Amb6yGG8uRA!2e0!5s20110601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kkt on March 04, 2024, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 04, 2024, 12:12:36 PM
I think all states should use Caltrans US shields like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52078058824
Have to admit these do look cool.

Ah.  Not busy at all!  It's July, but it's a Wednesday in the pandemic.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bwana39 on March 05, 2024, 02:09:50 AM
Misspelled city name

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/428703204_387705837225636_3126411556521517647_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_s600x600&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=FHnT6apWa2cAX8TEfEw&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AfA0mxIPyRsSTADBD1ORYGrjvqN4KtRihUir_s4yaWP50Q&oe=65EB69A1
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 05, 2024, 04:34:38 PM
Jamestown Settlement shield in Williamsburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220042942504369&set=a.10220042967144985)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53570203728_214a58b94e_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 05, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
These green signs here in Wichita drive me nuts:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/UiqP8uEo23RPC89n6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 05, 2024, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
These green signs here in Wichita drive me nuts:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/UiqP8uEo23RPC89n6
Pre-1971 MUTCD color scheme.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 05, 2024, 06:39:47 PM
On VA 36 WB crossing the Appomattox River in Petersburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044928954029&set=a.10220045064317413)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53570642885_f5328544a6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on March 05, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
Here's a combination that I pass fairly regularly:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/zYqZ4gwpb8gc3EZi7

If you're headed for US 101 South, the overhead sign correctly tells you to just stay in the right lane.  But the sign on the pole on the right makes it look like you should turn right immediately (which would put you in a motel parking lot).  A little further up (https://maps.app.goo.gl/2RFF9MS9GENBBapy9), there's another US 101 --> sign with nowhere to turn right, and an apparently random "Freeway Entrance" sign that leaves you wondering if you are supposed to be on the other side of the series of posts (you aren't, that's a bike lane, but it's not labelled at this point).  Finally, you pass under the freeway and are forced to turn right and merge with other traffic entering the freeway here.

(The "Freeway Entrance" sign is placed based on where the dashed line between the two traffic lanes becomes a solid line, then a gore point, as the two lanes split.  So it does make some sense if you look further into it, but on first glance you want to go "why here"?)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: GaryA on March 05, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
Here's a combination that I pass fairly regularly:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/zYqZ4gwpb8gc3EZi7

If you're headed for US 101 South, the overhead sign correctly tells you to just stay in the right lane.  But the sign on the pole on the right makes it look like you should turn right immediately (which would put you in a motel parking lot).  A little further up, there's another US 101 --> sign with nowhere to turn right, and an apparently random "Freeway Entrance" sign that leaves you wondering if you are supposed to be on the other side of the series of posts (you aren't, that's a bike lane, but it's not labelled at this point).  Finally, you pass under the freeway and are forced to turn right and merge with other traffic entering the freeway here.

(The "Freeway Entrance" sign is placed based on where the dashed line between the two traffic lanes becomes a solid line, then a gore point, as the two lanes split.  So it does make some sense if you look further into it, but on first glance you want to go "why here"?)

That bike lane screws it all up. Yes the groundsigns should be removed or state" Right Lane" as that is the lane for US 101 SB.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on March 05, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
Here's one I pass by pretty often coming home, where the "business" part is inside the shield
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2517803,-80.4111805,3a,19.1y,48.75h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN1_l-gb9T6MQnLlH9bRTaA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 05, 2024, 09:41:54 PM
^^ Georgia does that all the time for state routes that are BUS, ALT, LOOP etc.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2024, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 05, 2024, 09:41:54 PM
^^ Georgia does that all the time for state routes that are BUS, ALT, LOOP etc.

Seen it once in/near Panama City, FL, as well.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
These green signs here in Wichita drive me nuts:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/UiqP8uEo23RPC89n6

I'm bothered by this one nearby

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDpk98ogvLzz6AS8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: AABattery on March 05, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
Here's one I pass by pretty often coming home, where the "business" part is inside the shield
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2517803,-80.4111805,3a,19.1y,48.75h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN1_l-gb9T6MQnLlH9bRTaA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2024, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 05, 2024, 09:41:54 PM
^^ Georgia does that all the time for state routes that are BUS, ALT, LOOP etc.

Seen it once in/near Panama City, FL, as well.

Maryland also does it (also note the redundancy with this particular sign)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/57TfhtSb1sjVns7q6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 05, 2024, 11:06:30 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 04, 2024, 12:45:37 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52048711927
Here's an oddity for Caltrans. Using an actual shield on a guide instead of the normal text shield.

Not too strange from the enamel-on-steel era, because the shade of green was different between the spades and the guide signs, so you'd see that periodically depending on how anal that particular Caltrans district was. Now that everything is the same retroflective crap, it's less common.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2024, 11:07:15 PM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:02:36 PM
I'm bothered by this one nearby

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDpk98ogvLzz6AS8

A similar one exists here in Huntsville on the Parkway:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7368424,-86.5990956,3a,32.4y,186.73h,115.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0NxeECpfqzxC6MJkzHnqOA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 11:10:53 PM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
These green signs here in Wichita drive me nuts:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/UiqP8uEo23RPC89n6

I'm bothered by this one nearby

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDpk98ogvLzz6AS8

KDOT and they're leaving off the descriptor of the road name.  I believe they're putting it back from what I've read here on this forum.

Have to admit, Rock doesn't look like a road but a town just as Woodlawn is not a town but a road also.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 05, 2024, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: AABattery on March 05, 2024, 09:34:06 PM
Here's one I pass by pretty often coming home, where the "business" part is inside the shield
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2517803,-80.4111805,3a,19.1y,48.75h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN1_l-gb9T6MQnLlH9bRTaA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 05, 2024, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: Big John on March 05, 2024, 09:41:54 PM
^^ Georgia does that all the time for state routes that are BUS, ALT, LOOP etc.

Seen it once in/near Panama City, FL, as well.

Maryland also does it (also note the redundancy with this particular sign)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/57TfhtSb1sjVns7q6

And there's US 1 BY-PASS in NH and Maine. Sometimes you feel like a hyphen, sometimes you don't. http://www.floodgap.com/roadgap/1byp/
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/T5mvYkygJbCTNASP8
The PA state name next to the PA 611 shield.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/XCxu2ouuFWzA5B2x9
How about the Keep Right where the median barrier ends.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: freebrickproductions on March 06, 2024, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XCxu2ouuFWzA5B2x9
How about the Keep Right where the median barrier ends.

I'm assuming that was mounted the wrong-way around.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:30:25 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 06, 2024, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XCxu2ouuFWzA5B2x9
How about the Keep Right where the median barrier ends.

I'm assuming that was mounted the wrong-way around.

Most likely.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dHD12mCN5y7pUL2t8
This Exit in the gore shield guide is odd, but not uncommon.

This, though, is not common. Exit tab but no exit number.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RRZMwVSTP5EWkv2G8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 06, 2024, 06:48:19 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:30:25 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 06, 2024, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XCxu2ouuFWzA5B2x9
How about the Keep Right where the median barrier ends.

I'm assuming that was mounted the wrong-way around.

Most likely.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dHD12mCN5y7pUL2t8
This Exit in the gore shield guide is odd, but not uncommon.

This, though, is not common. Exit tab but no exit number.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RRZMwVSTP5EWkv2G8
Depends on what you mean by common.  Sure, the majority of exit gore signs have exit numbers, but there are plenty of limited access highways still that do not.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 11:10:53 PM
Have to admit, Rock doesn't look like a road but a town

Technically, Rock is a town.  Well, it's an unincorporated community, just south of Douglass.  But that's not what the highway sign is pointing to, and Rock Road doesn't actually go there.

Quote from: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:02:36 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
These green signs here in Wichita drive me nuts:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/UiqP8uEo23RPC89n6

I'm bothered by this one nearby

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDpk98ogvLzz6AS8

What about it, specifically?

For what it's worth, here's a closeup.  This is in my neighborhood.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q1SZyEW.jpg%5D)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WhyLifeIs4 on March 06, 2024, 10:43:42 AM
Neat
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 06, 2024, 12:01:49 PM
A collage of non-MUTCD Compliant photos (and other photos of course) from my recent drive through Powhatan State Park (unsigned VA 410).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/199744333@N06/albums/72177720315286524/ 

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044966074957&set=a.10220045064317413)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 06, 2024, 12:05:51 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:02:36 PM

Quote from: kphoger on March 05, 2024, 04:38:18 PM
These green signs here in Wichita drive me nuts:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/UiqP8uEo23RPC89n6

I'm bothered by this one nearby

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDpk98ogvLzz6AS8

What about it, specifically?

For what it's worth, here's a closeup.  This is in my neighborhood.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q1SZyEW.jpg%5D)

It's a neat sign, but one of the arrows (either one) is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: boilerup25 on March 06, 2024, 12:14:04 PM
Here's an ugly County Route 569 shield in Mercer County, NJ:

(https://i.imgur.com/i51AafH.jpg)

And this isn't even the most egregious thing about CR 569 in New Jersey. This one is missing the directional banner, (this should say NORTH 569 because it is along CR 569 NB), and CR 569 is poorly signed throughout its length (just like CR 583, which has all but disappeared from signs, there are still one NORTH 583 sign, but most new signs don't even mention 583).
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 12:18:47 PM
Quote from: plain on March 06, 2024, 12:05:51 PM
It's a neat sign, but one of the arrows (either one) is unnecessary.

While it doesn't match the illustrations in the MUTCD, I cannot actually find any verbiage that says the white-on-green arrow has to be eliminated when using an EXIT ONLY plaque.  Maybe it's in there, but I'm not seeing it.  But anyway, I agree that it's unnecessary.  The downward-pointing black arrow should be a right-and-upward-pointing black arrow.

I wondered if you were talking about the border being the wrong color.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 12:19:46 PM
Quote from: boilerup25 on March 06, 2024, 12:14:04 PM
Here's an ugly County Route 569 shield in Mercer County, NJ:

(https://i.imgur.com/i51AafH.jpg)


I don't think it's all that ugly, to be honest.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 06, 2024, 12:31:46 PM
Heading slightly north on US 522:

By the Beaumont Correctional Center along VA 313 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044986835476&set=a.10220045064317413)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53571796753_e0e0571460_c.jpg)

On US 522 SB looking south from VA 313 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044988075507&set=a.10220045064317413)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53572037690_a48066080d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 03:29:04 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/u8Bh2D489H66RN6B9
What's up with Sidney, NE having a West Entrance?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 03:29:04 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/u8Bh2D489H66RN6B9
What's up with Sidney, NE having a West Entrance?

West Entrance is the name of a nearby unincorporated community.  Back in the late 1870s and early 1880s, it was predicted to outgrow Sidney, but then the Cowboy Line railroad was constructed, and the rest is history.  West Entrance is practically a ghost town nowadays, with hardly anything but an old grain elevator to show for its history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Entrance,_Nebraska (https://media.tenor.com/U5X5Ihb3yJgAAAAi/i-was-just-kidding-ralphie.gif)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on March 06, 2024, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: boilerup25 on March 06, 2024, 12:14:04 PM
Here's an ugly County Route 569 shield in Mercer County, NJ:

(https://i.imgur.com/i51AafH.jpg)

And this isn't even the most egregious thing about CR 569 in New Jersey. This one is missing the directional banner, (this should say NORTH 569 because it is along CR 569 NB), and CR 569 is poorly signed throughout its length (just like CR 583, which has all but disappeared from signs, there are still one NORTH 583 sign, but most new signs don't even mention 583).

Is it me or is the 569 debossed?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 06, 2024, 11:13:41 PM
Quote from: bwana39 on March 05, 2024, 02:09:50 AM
Misspelled city name

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/428703204_387705837225636_3126411556521517647_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_s600x600&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=FHnT6apWa2cAX8TEfEw&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AfA0mxIPyRsSTADBD1ORYGrjvqN4KtRihUir_s4yaWP50Q&oe=65EB69A1
I once reported the misspelling of "Clermont" as "Clearmont" on a destination/distance sign in Weeki Wachee to the FDOT back when they were widening SR 50 from four lanes to six. I even sent a picture of the error sign in my e-mail, and I read a reply that was intended for the construction crew from the regional director saying "Everybody got that?" They replaced it with a correct one.

Of course, I believe I've told this story before.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 07, 2024, 01:22:07 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on February 29, 2024, 05:18:06 PM
Okay, I've seen NO RE-ENTRY and PAY TOLL yellow banners on toll road exit signs, but I've never before seen NO REFUNDS.

This is due to the particularly weird toll system in use on the Turner and Will Rogers turnpikes. The way it works is that there is no barrier toll plaza at the termini of the turnpike, just one around the midpoint of the turnpike. If you enter at a terminus and exit before the toll plaza, you pay for the mileage you've traveled, as you would on any other toll road. If you pass through the toll plaza, you pay the full toll as though you were going terminus to terminus. And then if you exit before the terminus, you get a refund for the portion of the turnpike you didn't travel. The NO REFUNDS banner is to indicate that the toll for Tulsa to Wellston is the same as for Tulsa to OKC, and so you should not expect a refund.

This screwy, complicated system exists because some politician thought it looked bad for traffic from Missouri to be immediately greeted by a toll plaza upon crossing the state line. (Not like that was a problem for Kansas, or any other state that has a toll road connecting to the state line...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 07, 2024, 06:53:30 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 06, 2024, 06:48:19 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:30:25 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 06, 2024, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XCxu2ouuFWzA5B2x9
How about the Keep Right where the median barrier ends.

I'm assuming that was mounted the wrong-way around.

Most likely.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dHD12mCN5y7pUL2t8
This Exit in the gore shield guide is odd, but not uncommon.

This, though, is not common. Exit tab but no exit number.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RRZMwVSTP5EWkv2G8
Depends on what you mean by common.  Sure, the majority of exit gore signs have exit numbers, but there are plenty of limited access highways still that do not.

You don't usually see an exit tab without an exit number. Unnumbered exits just have a guide with no tabs. 
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 07, 2024, 06:55:30 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 07, 2024, 06:53:30 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 06, 2024, 06:48:19 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:30:25 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on March 06, 2024, 12:25:12 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/XCxu2ouuFWzA5B2x9
How about the Keep Right where the median barrier ends.

I'm assuming that was mounted the wrong-way around.

Most likely.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/dHD12mCN5y7pUL2t8
This Exit in the gore shield guide is odd, but not uncommon.

This, though, is not common. Exit tab but no exit number.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/RRZMwVSTP5EWkv2G8
Depends on what you mean by common.  Sure, the majority of exit gore signs have exit numbers, but there are plenty of limited access highways still that do not.

You don't usually see an exit tab without an exit number. Unnumbered exits just have a guide with no tabs.
Ah, okay.  The link you provided fuzzed the tab out.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on March 07, 2024, 08:44:39 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 06, 2024, 12:31:46 PM
On US 522 SB looking south from VA 313 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044988075507&set=a.10220045064317413)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53572037690_a48066080d_c.jpg)

I actually had no idea there were more of these. They're carbon copies of Chesterfield County's "Chesterfield Keep It Clean" signs, with the county name replaced. I believe at one time there was a "Powhatan Keep It Clean" sign on SR 711 that said "Keep Chesterfield Clean" in the logo.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 07, 2024, 12:05:16 PM
Your typical Massachusetts "thickly settled" sign... in New Hampshire. No "30 mph" to go with it because New Hampshire doesn't have that law.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7435955,-71.1930226,3a,45.5y,95.34h,91.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2afNq3X102aBmvkKGJ_A-A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

This one's actually from Massachusetts, but someone stuck "30 mph" letter by letter at the top of the sign in tiny print. (The speed limit would be 30 whether the sign was there or not.)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7334565,-71.1449836,3a,75y,312.74h,89.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbooRrH03a13Td3WDWe52cw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WhyLifeIs4 on March 07, 2024, 12:35:16 PM
What is that law about the thickly settled sign?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 07, 2024, 12:37:12 PM
Massachusetts law says that if a place is thickly settled (which is defined by density of housing, not the presence or absence of a sign), the default speed limit is 25 or 30 depending on what each municipality chooses to do (most municipalities outside highly urban areas choose 30). If it's not thickly settled, it's 40 (for surface roads).

Municipalities that choose 25 typically post a notice (thickly settled 25 unless otherwise posted) at the city or town line, even if the road in question is otherwise posted. I don't know if this is actually a requirement.

These are all default limits; any standard speed limit sign overrides these numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 07, 2024, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 06, 2024, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: plain on March 05, 2024, 10:02:36 PMI'm bothered by this one nearby

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZJDpk98ogvLzz6AS8

What about it, specifically?

For what it's worth, here's a closeup.  This is in my neighborhood.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q1SZyEW.jpg%5D)

Both of these signs are original to the respective interchange construction contracts--the exit direction sign to Woodlawn Boulevard and the advance guide sign to Rock Road.  They were designed by engineering consultants working for the City of Wichita, which also handled letting, contract award, and construction, though the plans sets have the same look and feel as those for KDOT-administered projects.

The exit direction sign uses demountable copy while the other two use direct-applied copy.  KDOT transitioned away from the former after construction finished on Woodlawn but before it started on Rock.

The two arrows on the exit direction sign are definitely a mistake.  At the time Woodlawn was undergoing design, the MUTCD called for no arrow on the bottom yellow panel and just one arrow on green for an exit direction sign for a simple lane drop.  The last two editions (2009 and 2023) have also called for just one arrow in this situation, positioned on the bottom yellow panel.

And yes, the border treatment is wrong.  The white border is supposed to run out to the edge, not to be inset on the green background.  Usual practice in Kansas is to provide a black border along the bottom and sides of a yellow bottom panel and run it out to the edge as well.  (Texas uses a white border that runs out to the edges of the whole sign panel, but insets the yellow panel on the green background so that the white and yellow do not actually touch, let alone overlap.)

Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 11:10:53 PMKDOT and they're leaving off the descriptor of the road name.  I believe they're putting it back from what I've read here on this forum.

KDOT put descriptors back on when it re-did signs on I-135, I-235, and K-96 about a decade ago, but has yet to come through and update signs on Kellogg.



Quote from: roadman65 on March 06, 2024, 03:29:04 PMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/u8Bh2D489H66RN6B9

What's up with Sidney, NE having a West Entrance?

Quite a few other I-80 corridor towns in Nebraska have a "W. Entrance" and an "E. Entrance."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 07, 2024, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 07, 2024, 01:49:21 PM
(Texas uses a white border that runs out to the edges of the whole sign panel, but insets the yellow panel on the green background so that the white and yellow do not actually touch, let alone overlap.)

Oh, wow!  I never noticed that before, probably because the inset is by such a small margin.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 07, 2024, 03:25:42 PM
Left-pointing arrows on a half-gantry on Interstate 5 northbound in Washington at milepost 9: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FcimSce8Ydy7U4ZE7

Looks like they used to point down: https://maps.app.goo.gl/faR3TG6tCc5pmJZMA

The next half-gantry has the more standard right-pointing ones.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 07, 2024, 05:00:49 PM
A couple that can be accessed via a parking lot next to the US 211/US 522 intersection in Sperryville, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220048357119731&set=a.10220048367039979)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53573882586_896f133370_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220048263837399&set=a.10220048367039979)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53573882551_8c6fcdac23_c.jpg)

On US 522 NB in Front Royal, VA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220048352639619&set=a.10220048367039979)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53574255674_6270b1b566_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: chrisg69911 on March 07, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
This janky looking gantry
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXmPpU5x2hvpaBpi7

This may be better suited for the NJ topic, but is there a reason why the NJDOT decided to change from bridge mounted signs to gantries in front of the bridges?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2LbbBMKPw2CGAa4U8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ucc4EoMcSBEKuLW7A

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YbTiD8qsGABR7ci67
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9UyMrmVPJdmUVLbE7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on March 07, 2024, 06:47:52 PM
Here's a collection of some interesting speed limit signage:

"Please drive slowly we heart our children":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5jirMJ2d92m5x1ig8

A highlighted speed limit:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NPbHzZLLzJyc9ubR7

"Reduce speed to 5 MPH, DIM YOUR LIGHTS":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/AH4FLypPwubCy1R39
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 07, 2024, 06:50:00 PM
^^ second sign: "hey, you're speeding."
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on March 07, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on March 07, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
This janky looking gantry
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXmPpU5x2hvpaBpi7

Looks like the took down the old gantry, hacked at it, and installed it 90 degrees from normal...but that's more of a silly guess.

I didn't get the whole thing in this shot, back in 2013. (It also had overhead lighting frames.):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4673/38872238225_a2e3ba9424_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22e1o8T)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jakeroot on March 07, 2024, 08:17:37 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 07, 2024, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on March 07, 2024, 01:49:21 PM
(Texas uses a white border that runs out to the edges of the whole sign panel, but insets the yellow panel on the green background so that the white and yellow do not actually touch, let alone overlap.)

Oh, wow!  I never noticed that before, probably because the inset is by such a small margin.

It is one of the more (IMO) peculiar aspects of Texas signage. I remember seeing a couple and thinking they were either one-off or part of a brief design strategy. And then I started to notice them everywhere. Through Google Street View of course...



Quote from: Amaury on March 07, 2024, 03:25:42 PM
Left-pointing arrows on a half-gantry on Interstate 5 northbound in Washington at milepost 9: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FcimSce8Ydy7U4ZE7

Looks like they used to point down: https://maps.app.goo.gl/faR3TG6tCc5pmJZMA

The next half-gantry has the more standard right-pointing ones.

To be clear, both the left-facing and right-facing arrows are (or, were) standard, with the left (slanted)-facing arrows used to point at the lane(s), and the right (up)-facing arrows pointing towards the direction of the exit ramp at the actual split. Down-slanted arrows, aka "dancing arrows", are not used anymore, and I think were removed from the 2009 MUTCD. And to be fair, the 2009 MUTCD also removed the option lane sign altogether, so there are at least two things non-compliant with that sign. Though I know WSDOT continued using the verboten option lane sign well into the 2010s.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on March 07, 2024, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: mglass87 on March 07, 2024, 06:47:52 PM
Here's a collection of some interesting speed limit signage:

"Please drive slowly we heart our children":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/5jirMJ2d92m5x1ig8

A highlighted speed limit:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NPbHzZLLzJyc9ubR7

"Reduce speed to 5 MPH, DIM YOUR LIGHTS":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/AH4FLypPwubCy1R39

Reminds me of these on Route 11 SB in Shawsville, VA that have a little yellow "NOTICE" sign above them
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1719144,-80.2441937,3a,23.6y,239.12h,91.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szsJbR_AeM-pGwfAd_iRp8w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 08, 2024, 09:22:23 AM
On I-64 WB/I-81 SB approaching US 11 (Exit 213- by the southern terminus of US 340) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220064983055369&set=a.10220065049697035)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53575368205_793127dd98_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53575368215_23cb5b6613_c.jpg)

Heading south to the next US 11 (Exit 195) interchange (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220064987495480&set=a.10220065049697035)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53575029936_131260a0c2_c.jpg)

On US 60 WB at US 11 NB in Lexington, VA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220064994255649&set=a.10220065049697035)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53575653130_f6e1016cc2_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 08, 2024, 05:37:26 PM
"What's that, boss? There's two of them? Oh, don't worry, chief, we'll fix it!"
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eT6qiXz5NdCCYX6g9

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 08, 2024, 05:38:57 PM
"prisons"
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 09, 2024, 11:32:49 AM
On TN 355 SB in Kingsport, TN.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075470517549&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53576875031_2a69df8947_c.jpg)

US 11W SB follows "RAMP" on both ends of its US 25E Concurrency. I presume this is a TN thing. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075499398271&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53576145167_d6b3213d40_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53577222828_1aca6cf0dc_c.jpg)

On US 11W SB at Joppa Mountain Rd (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075505598426&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53577471090_4bf401afd5_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 09, 2024, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 09, 2024, 11:32:49 AM
On TN 355 SB in Kingsport, TN.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075470517549&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53576875031_2a69df8947_c.jpg)

Ah, yes, there's nothing like a relaxing drive on ||||||||||||||||IIII.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 09, 2024, 02:07:59 PM
Please do not park on US 11/US 70 if you are going to see the Tennessee Volunteers play college football. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075523678878&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53577345593_86f0fe12b5_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 05:18:02 PM
In the only sort-of unique category, Seneca Nation signage north of Cuba, NY:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53577858220_31d34f75a2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pCuwCd)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on March 09, 2024, 05:41:12 PM
On Washington State Route 14 between mileposts 19 and 20 is this equation milepost:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MZBGZM9eYH2ezZN4A (looking westbound)
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EkUBqpLFJMwgEF4E8 (looking eastbound)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 09, 2024, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on March 07, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
This may be better suited for the NJ topic, but is there a reason why the NJDOT decided to change from bridge mounted signs to gantries in front of the bridges?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2LbbBMKPw2CGAa4U8
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ucc4EoMcSBEKuLW7A

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YbTiD8qsGABR7ci67
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9UyMrmVPJdmUVLbE7

Nevada DOT has done the same thing recently. A few examples:But here's some exceptions:I think NDOT adopted a policy around 2010 of not attaching overhead signs to bridges in urban areas anymore when the bridge has sidewalks or is reasonably expected to have pedestrian activity. Since this change has occurred, I have seen a drastic reduction in the amount of graffiti and vandalism to these types of signs.* So while it's a greater up-front cost for a separate gantry, it's likely cost effective maintenance-wise over the long term. This could also be a motivating factor for NJDOT.

*However, around the same time, some NDOT jurisdictions (notably District 2 around Reno) also started installing overhead BGSs with higher reflectivity sheeting, such that most overhead signs would no longer require external illumination. This has led to new sign structures without catwalks, or catwalks being removed. So I'm not sure if the drop in graffiti is related to sign placement on gantries or lack of lighting or both...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: GaryA on March 09, 2024, 07:16:17 PM
There's been a missing panel on the gantry at the Telephone Road exit from NB US 101 in Ventura, CA for at least 12 years (https://maps.app.goo.gl/K8nQXJfL2R3gEPWHA).  I can see that the current advance sign is more useful than the old sign (which was past the gore point), but it still seems odd to have the framework there with no sign panel.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: NoGoodNamesAvailable on March 10, 2024, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 07, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on March 07, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
This janky looking gantry
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXmPpU5x2hvpaBpi7

Looks like the took down the old gantry, hacked at it, and installed it 90 degrees from normal...but that's more of a silly guess.

I didn't get the whole thing in this shot, back in 2013. (It also had overhead lighting frames.):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4673/38872238225_a2e3ba9424_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22e1o8T)

Also gotta love the zero warning lane drop. Only in NJ
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2024, 12:46:25 AM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on March 10, 2024, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 07, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on March 07, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
This janky looking gantry
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXmPpU5x2hvpaBpi7

Looks like the took down the old gantry, hacked at it, and installed it 90 degrees from normal...but that's more of a silly guess.

I didn't get the whole thing in this shot, back in 2013. (It also had overhead lighting frames.):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4673/38872238225_a2e3ba9424_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22e1o8T)

Also gotta love the zero warning lane drop. Only in NJ

All 3 lanes continue thru here.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 10, 2024, 02:33:48 PM
On US 11 SB heading south of TN 39 and Riceville. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075645321919&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53579187756_f81b35cfc9_c.jpg)

Heading south on US 11 to Calhoun at the Resolute Forest Products Plant (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075663802381&set=a.10220075698883258)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53579704460_512b663d50_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53579582704_30599f793a_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 10, 2024, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2024, 12:46:25 AM
Quote from: NoGoodNamesAvailable on March 10, 2024, 12:07:02 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 07, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: chrisg69911 on March 07, 2024, 06:40:02 PM
This janky looking gantry
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TXmPpU5x2hvpaBpi7

Looks like the took down the old gantry, hacked at it, and installed it 90 degrees from normal...but that's more of a silly guess.

I didn't get the whole thing in this shot, back in 2013. (It also had overhead lighting frames.):

(https://live.staticflickr.com/4673/38872238225_a2e3ba9424_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22e1o8T)

Also gotta love the zero warning lane drop. Only in NJ

All 3 lanes continue thru here.

But for a good while, there are 4 lanes here where the right lane does drop without sufficient warning.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 10, 2024, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: GaryA on March 05, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
Here's a combination that I pass fairly regularly:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/zYqZ4gwpb8gc3EZi7

If you're headed for US 101 South, the overhead sign correctly tells you to just stay in the right lane.  But the sign on the pole on the right makes it look like you should turn right immediately (which would put you in a motel parking lot).  A little further up, there's another US 101 --> sign with nowhere to turn right, and an apparently random "Freeway Entrance" sign that leaves you wondering if you are supposed to be on the other side of the series of posts (you aren't, that's a bike lane, but it's not labelled at this point).  Finally, you pass under the freeway and are forced to turn right and merge with other traffic entering the freeway here.

(The "Freeway Entrance" sign is placed based on where the dashed line between the two traffic lanes becomes a solid line, then a gore point, as the two lanes split.  So it does make some sense if you look further into it, but on first glance you want to go "why here"?)

That bike lane screws it all up. Yes the groundsigns should be removed or state" Right Lane" as that is the lane for US 101 SB.

This is a very tricky one.  The bike lane does complicate things, but the freeway entrance sign is also somewhat confusing.

Yes it is true that once you pass onto the right lane past the gore, you can only go to the freeway.  But you are not quite at the entrance yet, since you will still have to yield to left turning traffic at the upcoming yield sign.  In the vast majority of cases, the freeway entrance is sort of like your signal to accelerate and be ready to mere onto the highway, but that would be inappropriate at this point.

THe freeway entrance sign should be placed at the intersection with the traffic signal.

A more appropriate sign (that is also unique) is like this sign on Bernard Street near Broadway in LA's Chinatown:

No outlet Except for Freeway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0667761,-118.2359723,3a,15y,326.55h,88.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfm_NC6-p7jefl0Ow3TcAMA!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

It gets the point across that you are beyond the point of no return, but is not an invitation to get to 65 MPH as soon as you pass the sign.

It seems like the signs were probably OK before the bike lane, but they should be updated to more closely align with the current reality.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on March 10, 2024, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 10, 2024, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: GaryA on March 05, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
Here's a combination that I pass fairly regularly:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/zYqZ4gwpb8gc3EZi7

If you're headed for US 101 South, the overhead sign correctly tells you to just stay in the right lane.  But the sign on the pole on the right makes it look like you should turn right immediately (which would put you in a motel parking lot).  A little further up, there's another US 101 --> sign with nowhere to turn right, and an apparently random "Freeway Entrance" sign that leaves you wondering if you are supposed to be on the other side of the series of posts (you aren't, that's a bike lane, but it's not labelled at this point).  Finally, you pass under the freeway and are forced to turn right and merge with other traffic entering the freeway here.

(The "Freeway Entrance" sign is placed based on where the dashed line between the two traffic lanes becomes a solid line, then a gore point, as the two lanes split.  So it does make some sense if you look further into it, but on first glance you want to go "why here"?)

That bike lane screws it all up. Yes the groundsigns should be removed or state" Right Lane" as that is the lane for US 101 SB.

This is a very tricky one.  The bike lane does complicate things, but the freeway entrance sign is also somewhat confusing.

Yes it is true that once you pass onto the right lane past the gore, you can only go to the freeway.  But you are not quite at the entrance yet, since you will still have to yield to left turning traffic at the upcoming yield sign.  In the vast majority of cases, the freeway entrance is sort of like your signal to accelerate and be ready to mere onto the highway, but that would be inappropriate at this point.

THe freeway entrance sign should be placed at the intersection with the traffic signal.

A more appropriate sign (that is also unique) is like this sign on Bernard Street near Broadway in LA's Chinatown:

No outlet Except for Freeway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0667761,-118.2359723,3a,15y,326.55h,88.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfm_NC6-p7jefl0Ow3TcAMA!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

It gets the point across that you are beyond the point of no return, but is not an invitation to get to 65 MPH as soon as you pass the sign.

It seems like the signs were probably OK before the bike lane, but they should be updated to more closely align with the current reality.

I would have used additional post-mounted signage that says "right lane freeway only" where the freeway entrance assembly is now (also some pavement markings to reinforce this and the prior overhead sign). The freeway entrance assembly should be moved downstream right in front of the bridge, since that is truly the point of no return and could be installed on both sides of the road without ambiguity/interference from the bike lane.

(The whole situation of this direction of travel splitting the ramp traffic from through traffic between bridge piers is a bit peculiar to begin with...)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on March 10, 2024, 11:09:46 PM
The kids on summer vacation, though, you can hit.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/QYB8R26CNEKqZdLc8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 11, 2024, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 05:18:02 PM
In the only sort-of unique category, Seneca Nation signage north of Cuba, NY:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53577858220_31d34f75a2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pCuwCd)
Just looks bilingual to me. Probably the same message written in the language of the Seneca people. I haven't seen that on road signs within the Shinnecock or Poospatuck reservations.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 11, 2024, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 11, 2024, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: Rothman on March 09, 2024, 05:18:02 PM
In the only sort-of unique category, Seneca Nation signage north of Cuba, NY:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53577858220_31d34f75a2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pCuwCd)
Just looks bilingual to me. Probably the same message written in the language of the Seneca people. I haven't seen that on road signs within the Shinnecock or Poospatuck reservations.
Onondaga Nation signage includes translation as well.

Lately, they've asked NYSDOT to decorate bridges in or very near their Nation with the Hiawatha Belt.  Good ask, good result.  See Sentinel Heights over I-81 and, in a couple of years, I-81 over US 11 in Nedrow.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on March 11, 2024, 02:14:40 PM
Quote from: roadfro on March 10, 2024, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: mrsman on March 10, 2024, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 05, 2024, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: GaryA on March 05, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
Here's a combination that I pass fairly regularly:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/zYqZ4gwpb8gc3EZi7

If you're headed for US 101 South, the overhead sign correctly tells you to just stay in the right lane.  But the sign on the pole on the right makes it look like you should turn right immediately (which would put you in a motel parking lot).  A little further up, there's another US 101 --> sign with nowhere to turn right, and an apparently random "Freeway Entrance" sign that leaves you wondering if you are supposed to be on the other side of the series of posts (you aren't, that's a bike lane, but it's not labelled at this point).  Finally, you pass under the freeway and are forced to turn right and merge with other traffic entering the freeway here.

(The "Freeway Entrance" sign is placed based on where the dashed line between the two traffic lanes becomes a solid line, then a gore point, as the two lanes split.  So it does make some sense if you look further into it, but on first glance you want to go "why here"?)

That bike lane screws it all up. Yes the groundsigns should be removed or state" Right Lane" as that is the lane for US 101 SB.

This is a very tricky one.  The bike lane does complicate things, but the freeway entrance sign is also somewhat confusing.

Yes it is true that once you pass onto the right lane past the gore, you can only go to the freeway.  But you are not quite at the entrance yet, since you will still have to yield to left turning traffic at the upcoming yield sign.  In the vast majority of cases, the freeway entrance is sort of like your signal to accelerate and be ready to mere onto the highway, but that would be inappropriate at this point.

THe freeway entrance sign should be placed at the intersection with the traffic signal.

A more appropriate sign (that is also unique) is like this sign on Bernard Street near Broadway in LA's Chinatown:

No outlet Except for Freeway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0667761,-118.2359723,3a,15y,326.55h,88.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sfm_NC6-p7jefl0Ow3TcAMA!2e0!5s20211201T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

It gets the point across that you are beyond the point of no return, but is not an invitation to get to 65 MPH as soon as you pass the sign.

It seems like the signs were probably OK before the bike lane, but they should be updated to more closely align with the current reality.

I would have used additional post-mounted signage that says "right lane freeway only" where the freeway entrance assembly is now (also some pavement markings to reinforce this and the prior overhead sign). The freeway entrance assembly should be moved downstream right in front of the bridge, since that is truly the point of no return and could be installed on both sides of the road without ambiguity/interference from the bike lane.

(The whole situation of this direction of travel splitting the ramp traffic from through traffic between bridge piers is a bit peculiar to begin with...)

Agree completely.

If I were to give advice on signage to the municipality, assuming that no physical changes are made to the road, I would:

Remove the US 101 south right arrow sign from the sign bridge.  Misleading and unnecessary.

Remove the US 101 south arrows, freeway entrance sign, and truck restriction sign from in front of Motel 6.  Wrong place for any of these signs.  Your recommendation of "right lane freeway only" would be appropriate here.

At the bridge pier, signage where the yellow trash cans are to delineate that US 101 south should be to the right of the pylons and Auto Center Drive to the left of the bridge piers. [Even though I don't see an old GSV for this location, it is pretty clear that the bridge piers used to separate northbound and southbound traffic of Johnson Drive, but was changed to accommodate the bike lane.]

Adding the yellow diamond two arrow sign at the yellow trash cans would also be helpful:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2406049,-119.1808418,3a,15y,208.75h,91.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sll19BmM49CFJPR-1DQckCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dll19BmM49CFJPR-1DQckCg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D33.47124%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Freeway entrance signs can be put in place at the intersection with the traffic signal, near the existing yield signs.

Freeway entrance signs currently don't exist at all for traffic from Auto Center Dr that is making a left onto US 101 south.  There needs to be signage here facing that direction of traffic.

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 11, 2024, 03:53:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51323583533
The arrows on the Exit Only have a lot to be desired.


Didn't even realize they were arrows until I studied the photos. Imagine motorists at full speed driving past aren't seeing.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 11, 2024, 05:01:43 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 11, 2024, 03:53:13 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51323583533
The arrows on the Exit Only have a lot to be desired.


Didn't even realize they were arrows until I studied the photos. Imagine motorists at full speed driving past aren't seeing.

Yeah, they look like when a marker bleeds on paper.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 12, 2024, 07:36:47 AM
On US 11 SB/US 64 WB at Little Debbie Dr/Artesian Cir in Ooltewah, TN.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075780365295&set=a.10220075941089313)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583380160_faae2d350c_c.jpg)

On TN 58 SB south of I-24 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075828806506&set=a.10220075941089313)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583367143_94be6e0e45_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583470274_f79dfb0acc_c.jpg)

Lookout Mountain signage at Ruby Falls (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075842206841&set=a.10220075941089313)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583577288_02b19dcceb_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583355721_3cbf57be51_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53582486797_859ec26920_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583681364_b44f3853c5_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53582486387_771c431974_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583803355_de0372338f_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583355121_89ccb52ed5_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Hunty2022 on March 12, 2024, 12:00:31 PM
Found this interesting looking, possibly old font and arrows at the east end of VA-34 in South Boston on GSV while looking at the route for my website:

(https://i.postimg.cc/rmCMMrB1/Screenshot-2024-03-12-11-54-07-AM.png)

Imagery is from May 2023.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on March 12, 2024, 12:59:05 PM
Quote from: Hunty2022 on March 12, 2024, 12:00:31 PM
Found this interesting looking, possibly old font and arrows at the east end of VA-34 in South Boston on GSV while looking at the route for my website:

(https://i.postimg.cc/rmCMMrB1/Screenshot-2024-03-12-11-54-07-AM.png)

Imagery is from May 2023.

Looks like a really old town installation.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 12, 2024, 01:05:15 PM
Well, it's been there since at least July 2006:  http://www.vahighways.com/va-ends/va034.htm
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2024, 03:24:13 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583577288_02b19dcceb_c.jpg)
Intereseting. What happens when us non-colorblind people use it?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 12, 2024, 03:33:03 PM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2024, 03:24:13 PM

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583577288_02b19dcceb_c.jpg)

Intereseting. What happens when us non-colorblind people use it?

You'll see racism.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 12, 2024, 06:23:09 PM
On US 41/US 76/GA 2/GA 3/GA 151 in Ringgold (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075870087538&set=a.10220075941089313)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584532985_b27d6f49f3_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584532980_5d7eb464c8_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584304513_268857aa94_c.jpg)

On Spring Creek Rd SB at Parkridge East Hospital in Chattanooga (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075878487748&set=a.10220075941089313)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584459174_0159b9b23d_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584459189_803ff9926c_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584583285_a9e4451a3a_c.jpg)

On US 41 SB/US 76 EB at I-75 NB (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220075837246717&set=a.10220075941089313)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53583295827_5152cba54d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 12, 2024, 07:52:43 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53584459174_0159b9b23d_c.jpg)
Utilizing school speed zone signs with flashing yellow lights as hospital signs? Damn, that's innovative!



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 13, 2024, 07:30:16 AM
This sign seems to be QuikTrip specific.  I noticed it at the Acworth, GA, location along US 41/GA 3.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220085750814550&set=a.10220085901258311)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53585205038_0050254947_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 13, 2024, 08:34:10 AM
That implies other nearby places are unsafe.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 13, 2024, 09:31:07 AM
Why do they want to advertise where they store the money? /s
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 13, 2024, 10:42:23 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 13, 2024, 07:30:16 AM
This sign seems to be QuikTrip specific.  I noticed it at the Acworth, GA, location along US 41/GA 3.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220085750814550&set=a.10220085901258311)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53585205038_0050254947_c.jpg)


Nope, not unique to QT.  That has been the standard sign for the National Safe Place Network (https://www.nspnetwork.org/) since 2012.  QT just seems to do the best at actually using the signs, at least as far as I've seen.

Before that (before a slight name change due to a merger), the organization used a sign that, honestly, looks like a white guy groping a black girl's breasts from behind—which doesn't exactly seem all that "safe":

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bd/Safeplacelogo.svg/240px-Safeplacelogo.svg.png)

Here is one (https://maps.app.goo.gl/XivWEUU4DaGNm4pS6) at a fire station in Wichita.  And here is the same location (https://maps.app.goo.gl/rR3oykV74NngAdJx7) before the sign changed.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 13, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/snxhqz7NZ2W6dwRW9
This sign bugs me. It should read I-375 TO I-75 not have I-75 first.

Yeah I know next year I-375 gets filled in with dirt to become another boulevard. So this will soon come down.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/s2C7T6LAzXJ3LKhT7
No sign also for I-375 on SB I-75 is odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 13, 2024, 04:23:10 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 13, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/snxhqz7NZ2W6dwRW9
This sign bugs me. It should read I-375 TO I-75 not have I-75 first.

Yeah I know next year I-375 gets filled in with dirt to become another boulevard. So this will soon come down.

With no exits or route confirmation assemblies on that northbound side, it might be better that it read only I-75 as though it's a long connector ramp.

Maybe the thought was to sign it similar to the connector from Gratiot Avenue (M-3):  https://maps.app.goo.gl/QZ6by5STyQS8a1FP8

Quote from: roadman65 on March 13, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/s2C7T6LAzXJ3LKhT7
No sign also for I-375 on SB I-75 is odd.

I agree with you there.  There has not been an I-375 exit sign there as long as I can recall.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 13, 2024, 04:36:12 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/k5A4PrVjAnhgU9aD9
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rhmKvZHj1LoRrngK8
What's in a name?

Technically the Canadian side name is right as you are heading from Windsor into Detroit.  Just as the American side name is correct as you are going from Detroit to Windsor.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on March 13, 2024, 06:21:01 PM
Around me on US 460 Business heading into Blacksburg is a sign that's just blank. It's been that way for well over a decade now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1906021,-80.4044617,3a,73.8y,35.63h,91.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc-VXO0EiY9c3rXwCEH2enA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 13, 2024, 06:41:04 PM
Quote from: AABattery on March 13, 2024, 06:21:01 PM
Around me on US 460 Business heading into Blacksburg is a sign that's just blank. It's been that way for well over a decade now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1906021,-80.4044617,3a,73.8y,35.63h,91.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc-VXO0EiY9c3rXwCEH2enA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I think that is related to "Future I-73", which was supposed to follow an extenion of the SMART Road to I-81.

On I-20 EB approaching the eastern I-285 interchange (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220085829136508&set=a.10220085901258311)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53585364192_2ddccee259_c.jpg)

On Glenridge Point Pkwy north of Johnson Ferry Rd near the I-285/GA 400 interchange (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220085948339488&set=a.10220085980660296)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53587960951_43b1de1f4b_c.jpg)

In the same area, on Perimeter Center Pkwy at Lake Hearn Dr (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220085947139458&set=a.10220085980660296)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53588207413_fc414aa0ef_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: WillWeaverRVA on March 14, 2024, 06:33:14 PM
Quote from: AABattery on March 13, 2024, 06:21:01 PM
Around me on US 460 Business heading into Blacksburg is a sign that's just blank. It's been that way for well over a decade now.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1906021,-80.4044617,3a,73.8y,35.63h,91.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc-VXO0EiY9c3rXwCEH2enA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I'm assuming that sign was intended for one of the closed off ramps in the massive US 460/US 460 Business interchange that leads to the Smart Road and associated streets.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: AABattery on March 15, 2024, 12:52:29 AM
If I had a guess, prolly for the SMART road, which I wish they'd finish by now so there'd be an exit between 118ABC (which is also a huge interchange) and 128
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 15, 2024, 09:32:44 AM
In the Atlanta area as US 23 SB/GA 155 SB approaches US 29/US 78/GA 8 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220086636396689&set=a.10220087381215309)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589142146_3b3ff6c1f1_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 17, 2024, 06:44:22 PM
Turn off is neat here.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52065686590_7651858284_k.jpg
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52065686590_7651858284_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 17, 2024, 10:52:00 PM
A temporary orange No Passing Zone pennant in a construction zone on US-223 near Addison, MI.  Weird because with the curve and the hill, I think there has always been no passing here.

(https://i.imgur.com/YA77l2u.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 17, 2024, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 17, 2024, 10:52:00 PM
A temporary orange No Passing Zone pennant in a construction zone on US-223 near Addison, MI.  Weird because with the curve and the hill, I think there has always been no passing here.

(https://i.imgur.com/YA77l2u.jpg)

Passing is permitted:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/jQ9ToxDDqtBc8SyT7 . The angle of the picture probably makes the sign look closer to that curve than it is.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on March 18, 2024, 09:15:07 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 17, 2024, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 17, 2024, 10:52:00 PM
A temporary orange No Passing Zone pennant in a construction zone on US-223 near Addison, MI.  Weird because with the curve and the hill, I think there has always been no passing here.

(https://i.imgur.com/YA77l2u.jpg)

Passing is permitted:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/jQ9ToxDDqtBc8SyT7 . The angle of the picture probably makes the sign look closer to that curve than it is.

??  The sign is located at the point where the solid yellow "no passing" line begins on the center divide.  Also note the Do Not Pass sign on the right side of the road in your link.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 18, 2024, 07:31:39 PM
At the 58 Landing Park in Kingston, TN.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089389105505&set=a.10220089517188707)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53595561087_8732b9ea08_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: jeffandnicole on March 18, 2024, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 18, 2024, 09:15:07 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 17, 2024, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on March 17, 2024, 10:52:00 PM
A temporary orange No Passing Zone pennant in a construction zone on US-223 near Addison, MI.  Weird because with the curve and the hill, I think there has always been no passing here.

(https://i.imgur.com/YA77l2u.jpg)

Passing is permitted:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/jQ9ToxDDqtBc8SyT7 . The angle of the picture probably makes the sign look closer to that curve than it is.

??  The sign is located at the point where the solid yellow "no passing" line begins on the center divide.  Also note the Do Not Pass sign on the right side of the road in your link.

Oh, right, I thought you were mentioning that there wasn't any passing at all coming up to this point.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 19, 2024, 07:26:43 AM
On TN 327 NB west of TN 58 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089408946001&set=a.10220089517188707)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53597708265_af54e258ec_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Rothman on March 19, 2024, 08:15:23 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 19, 2024, 07:26:43 AM
On TN 327 NB west of TN 58 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089408946001&set=a.10220089517188707)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53597708265_af54e258ec_c.jpg)
Heh.  The fog has very specific tastes...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: steviep24 on March 19, 2024, 09:40:47 AM
Saw this on NY 259 in Hilton, NY.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2592865,-77.7908737,3a,15y,26.44h,88.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scPqnazRLnF4s8oD1-DNBRw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=0&entry=ttu

                      STATE
                      SPEED
                      LIMIT
                        40

EDIT: This particular speed limit sign is an error and all other speed limit signs on this road are normal.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on March 19, 2024, 09:45:52 AM
^^ That's a New York thing to put the jurisdiction type on the speed limit sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: hotdogPi on March 19, 2024, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: Big John on March 19, 2024, 09:45:52 AM
^^ That's a New York thing to put the jurisdiction type on the speed limit sign.

The state speed limit is 55. Putting "state speed limit" on any other number is incorrect.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: J N Winkler on March 19, 2024, 09:57:30 AM
AIUI, speed limit signs with a jurisdiction identifier ("State," "City," "Village," etc.) are to be used only to remind motorists of default speed limits--and 40 is not such for New York State.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 19, 2024, 10:56:43 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6EHQEWpKkXunfc2X6
The Toll Crossing Entrance instead of Freeway Entrance.

The fact is there is no toll on the Bay Bridge to Oakland, so this sign is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Scott5114 on March 19, 2024, 08:20:37 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 18, 2024, 07:31:39 PM
At the 58 Landing Park in Kingston, TN.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089389105505&set=a.10220089517188707)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53595561087_8732b9ea08_c.jpg)



Many parking lots in Las Vegas have similar signage.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on March 19, 2024, 08:37:24 PM
I've never seen a no parking sign telling you to turn on your hazard lights:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/on7pG6bNYiBZEmpF7

Interesting pedestrian crossing signs in a school construction zone:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pWogiYCFheJqt3DG6

Something about this just feels wrong:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Wh5ZzxaZNEPFZtNd8

How many times get you fit "FREE" on a sign?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hbcSXbKMoiKAMGuz6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 21, 2024, 08:32:49 PM
At a wayside along the US 23/US 58/US 421 Concurrency (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089770115030&set=a.10220089876077679)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53599814965_f5a5283e12_c.jpg)


Signage Around Natural Tunnel State Park:

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089826596442&set=a.10220089876077679)

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBi6pW

On US 23 SB/US 58 EB/US 421 SB at SR 870 west of Gate City (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220089854957151&set=a.10220089876077679)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53598940502_672965d66f_c.jpg)

On the very short VA 74 in Norton (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095374255130&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53600984359_59b53a27fe_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095375055150&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53600645111_54d877dff5_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53600645076_3dcb2f3f38_c.jpg)

At the US 23 NB Runaway Truck Ramp entering KY. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095407735967&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53602750974_204288ca1a_c.jpg)

On the US 23 Pound Bypass (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095395495661&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53603157340_795d9ea990_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53603029369_3dbb5388ed_c.jpg)

On KY 805 in Dorton (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095415976173&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53602460086_de3185f211_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53602460096_9b9483ff9c_c.jpg)

On US 23 NB/US 119 NB approaching KY 611 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095421616314&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53601657537_29818859eb_c.jpg)

And KY 3174 (for a side road) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095430816544&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53601820662_75d088e96e_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 21, 2024, 10:38:44 PM
EMERGENCY VEHICLE WEIGHT LIMIT?? This is a new sign on Arthur Ashe Blvd (VA 161) SB before the railroad tracks in Richmond.

Image from this morning

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/3bc750395efbe6daf19f1f53a7e16de0.jpg)

moto g pure

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 21, 2024, 10:52:27 PM
^This was previously discussed in the general VA thread. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=294.msg2788269#msg2788269)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on March 21, 2024, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 21, 2024, 10:52:27 PM
^This was previously discussed in the general VA thread. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=294.msg2788269#msg2788269)

Hmmm.. not sure how I forgot about that.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 21, 2024, 11:54:42 PM
Can anyone read these signs at the intersection of NY 30 and Old NY 30 north of Max V. Shaul State Park? This should be the October 2008 view.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.563196,-74.401092,3a,90y,302.12h,84.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sG2P-nIX5kG4dbRBdBBVLRw!2e0!5s20081001T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en&entry=ttu



Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 22, 2024, 07:09:21 AM
Quote from: D-Dey65 on March 21, 2024, 11:54:42 PM
Can anyone read these signs at the intersection of NY 30 and Old NY 30 north of Max V. Shaul State Park? This should be the October 2008 view.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.563196,-74.401092,3a,90y,302.12h,84.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sG2P-nIX5kG4dbRBdBBVLRw!2e0!5s20081001T000000!7i3328!8i1664?hl=en&entry=ttu

I could not.

Anyway, I made another album with some interesting signage on KY 1373 at the Lick Creek Area north of US 460 (https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBih5W).  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095452977098&set=a.10220095521778818)

On US 460 WB between KY 1373 and KY 80 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095460697291&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53603347601_6996e1b1ea_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Mapmikey on March 22, 2024, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 21, 2024, 08:32:49 PM

[
On the very short VA 74 in Norton (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095374255130&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53600984359_59b53a27fe_c.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095375055150&set=a.10220095521778818)



There is a cutout version of this:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Fcutouts%2Fimages%2Fus58anorton.jpg&hash=21291040008b57ad062637aff81fe71fa45a0f92)
photo by me, 2008

It was still there in 2022 - https://www.google.com/maps/@36.9290408,-82.6341541,3a,15y,75.03h,90.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHVU1nanwsKtYSqVeMZRbVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

US 58 ALT stopped using that route in 1988...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 22, 2024, 11:03:35 AM
On US 460 EB in the Keen Mountain, VA, area (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095490698041&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53604124005_ccb5494bfe_c.jpg)

On SR 638 in Whitewood, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095496378183&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53604062114_a1970107d8_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53604186400_6b80c421e8_c.jpg)

At the northbound beginning of WV 635. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095498098226&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53604062119_26a626f85b_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53602871797_5312ef3521_c.jpg)

On WV 83 EB entering Bradshaw (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095499298256&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53603747471_091cb2102f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: D-Dey65 on March 22, 2024, 01:51:47 PM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 22, 2024, 11:03:35 AM
On SR 638 in Whitewood, VA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220095496378183&set=a.10220095521778818)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53604062114_a1970107d8_c.jpg)

Ahh, another type of vehicle for us to share the road with besides bicycles. And here's a third.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EB_VA_207;_Share_the_Road_with_Tractors.jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/EB_VA_207%3B_Share_the_Road_with_Tractors.jpg/640px-EB_VA_207%3B_Share_the_Road_with_Tractors.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on March 22, 2024, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: mglass87 on March 19, 2024, 08:37:24 PM
Something about this just feels wrong:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Wh5ZzxaZNEPFZtNd8

For comedic effect, should be "RECEIVING IN REAR" instead?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 22, 2024, 09:38:17 PM
The I-77 NB onramp from CR 48. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220097678072724&set=a.10220097830236528)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53605218605_5289f9f26e_c.jpg)

Probably the most unique of the green signs in WV (WV 3 EB at WV 20 NB in Hinton).  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220097725793917&set=a.10220097830236528)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53605755803_a4bce4b6a7_c.jpg)

On I-70 EB at PA 917 in Bentleyville (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220097797595712&set=a.10220097830236528)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53606682631_c5e986615a_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53605810692_a9e5cf103d_c.jpg)

On PA 218 in Waynesburg (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220097781995322&set=a.10220097830236528)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607067554_82e4e83552_c.jpg)

On I-70 EB approaching Charleroi.  The only instance I have seen of this type of sign on an interstate.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220097802635838&set=a.10220097830236528)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53606937893_2b5488deb8_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 25, 2024, 03:39:56 PM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/egGGRJbJma83VBfj9
Is I-395 NB really the second right or is it the next right?

NJDOT did that in Edison, NJ on CR 514 at I-287 that used to bug me.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 26, 2024, 05:40:54 PM
On US 30 EB approaching PA 113 in Downingtown (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098226846443&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53608175360_ae0ef143f2_c.jpg)

On PA 100 SB approaching Pottstown Pike (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098215766166&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607966288_acdeee5cf5_c.jpg)

On PA 3 EB at US 202 NB/US 322 WB in West Chester (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098236926695&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607088977_1577bb5385_c.jpg)

On I-76 WB .3 miles east of Montgomery Dr/MLK Dr (Exit 341) in Philadelphia (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098264087374&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607962866_1dc7905bf0_c.jpg)

Signage at the Chick-Fil-A and Wawa by the US 202/Henderson Rd intersection in King of Prussia (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098276927695&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607090667_e50b546f21_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53608422755_fbafc73093_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607090612_f67c03b39d_c.jpg)

On Henderson Rd at Gulph Rd/I-76 in King of Prussia (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098195485659&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607091347_f3ae424f0f_c.jpg)

On I-76 WB approaching US 202 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098280927795&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613385346_c561de2281_c.jpg)

On the I-76 WB ramp as it enters the PA Turnpike (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098203205852&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607964986_e1347f9e63_c.jpg)

On I-76 WB approaching PA 100 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098195445658&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607092787_6190d2f541_c.jpg)

Further west on I-76 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220098290648038&set=a.10220098304088374)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53608182108_790fbc08ce_c.jpg)

This is at a building in Harrisburg, PA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10220135602700816&set=a.10219841211181212)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53607264232_0c5edce6f7_c.jpg)

On VA 127 WB west of US 522 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135471577538&set=a.10220135586020399)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53609325338_036342600c_c.jpg)

On I-68 WB/US 40 WB .5 miles east of Seton Dr (Exit 41) (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135495778143&set=a.10220135586020399)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53609325753_ea97e437b7_c.jpg)

On MD 36 SB at MD 135/WV 46 in Westernport, MD.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135513778593&set=a.10220135586020399)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53609455099_c7327e3e83_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53609573540_cd1e4ae720_c.jpg)

Near a Pedestrian Crossing on US 219 NB on the north side of Oakland, MD. (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135532339057&set=a.10220135586020399)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613623273_7af55803f3_c.jpg)

Signage to avoid US 30 on US 219 NB approaching the connector to PA 601, I-70, I-76, and PA 985 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135676822669&set=a.10220135794465610)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613775934_17e68e0c19_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53612564537_dc9ca1d94f_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613775774_dbaf897ec8_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613433966_9022772085_c.jpg)

On US 219 NB approaching Johnstown and PA 56 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135687222929&set=a.10220135794465610)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613896140_e095d2e898_c.jpg)

On PA 36 SB leaving Patton (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135725063875&set=a.10220135794465610)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613798379_7cfb667f29_c.jpg)

On US 22 EB at US 220 BUS (Altoona) SB in Duncansville (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220135744344357&set=a.10220135794465610)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613673818_2e47ed54d5_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613805084_ce8efab630_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613916055_586c9a68f2_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53613805079_ac94d466e9_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 30, 2024, 07:41:30 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Px9CNf2rHF983jta7
Temporary sign on the NJ Turnpike during construction.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZAjhVz7a5EP6Bvdk8
Truck Speed limit before the car speed limit. Usually trucks are on bottom of normal speed.  Plus the US 22 shield is odd.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on March 30, 2024, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 30, 2024, 07:41:30 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/ZAjhVz7a5EP6Bvdk8
Truck Speed limit before the car speed limit. Usually trucks are on bottom of normal speed.  Plus the US 22 shield is odd.

We call those ugly shields "acorns".   :no:
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on March 31, 2024, 07:27:48 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on March 30, 2024, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 30, 2024, 07:41:30 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/ZAjhVz7a5EP6Bvdk8
Truck Speed limit before the car speed limit. Usually trucks are on bottom of normal speed.  Plus the US 22 shield is odd.

We call those ugly shields "acorns".   :no:

Yup that's what they look like. :)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 01, 2024, 08:03:52 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qj3i5hZvZs7YRqud9
I still like what IL and IN do with interstates when more than one is nearby. Use one shield but two route numbers.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 01, 2024, 08:29:19 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2024, 08:03:52 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/qj3i5hZvZs7YRqud9
I still like what IL and IN do with interstates when more than one is nearby. Use one shield but two route numbers.

There is plenty of room for two separate shields here.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Big John on April 01, 2024, 08:46:50 AM
Quote from: 74/171FAN on April 01, 2024, 08:29:19 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 01, 2024, 08:03:52 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/qj3i5hZvZs7YRqud9
I still like what IL and IN do with interstates when more than one is nearby. Use one shield but two route numbers.

There is plenty of room for two separate shields here.
Taking cues from St. Louis?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 01, 2024, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: plain on March 21, 2024, 10:38:44 PMEMERGENCY VEHICLE WEIGHT LIMIT?? This is a new sign on Arthur Ashe Blvd (VA 161) SB before the railroad tracks in Richmond.

Image from this morning

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240322/3bc750395efbe6daf19f1f53a7e16de0.jpg)

moto g pure

I went by this morning and now it's been changed. It didn't last long.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240401/396fa8001869104f9021bf32ba9714d8.jpg)

moto g pure

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 01, 2024, 06:32:25 PM
On PA 441 SB in the Bainbridge area (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220162583055308&set=a.10220162713658573)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53626132741_721a901c78_c.jpg)

On Good Dr in Lancaster, PA (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220162598655698&set=a.10220162713658573)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53626206706_0ceb32881d_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 02, 2024, 02:55:18 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ebosQi39g5yPrqbE6
Oklahoma calls left lane campers the act of impeding?
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 02, 2024, 07:19:51 AM
At Heatherfield Park in Willow Street, PA.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220162618936205&set=a.10220162713658573)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53627244723_230f0270da_c.jpg)

More interesting signs around Lancaster from Saturday's Hike can be seen here ( https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjBjNjA )
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on April 02, 2024, 07:46:36 AM
I like this right turn only ahead sign in Los Angeles.  It lets people know a block ahead of time about the restriction and people who need to go straight or turn left should take a parallel street where there would be a traffic signal.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0853859,-118.3522498,3a,15y,204.15h,87.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMq-o9MI3mvm2NQzkWy9vhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMq-o9MI3mvm2NQzkWy9vhg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D276.9315%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: plain on April 02, 2024, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: mrsman on April 02, 2024, 07:46:36 AMI like this right turn only ahead sign in Los Angeles.  It lets people know a block ahead of time about the restriction and people who need to go straight or turn left should take a parallel street where there would be a traffic signal.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0853859,-118.3522498,3a,15y,204.15h,87.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMq-o9MI3mvm2NQzkWy9vhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMq-o9MI3mvm2NQzkWy9vhg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D276.9315%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu

I definitely dig that sign.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mrsman on April 02, 2024, 11:23:29 AM
Quote from: plain on April 02, 2024, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: mrsman on April 02, 2024, 07:46:36 AMI like this right turn only ahead sign in Los Angeles.  It lets people know a block ahead of time about the restriction and people who need to go straight or turn left should take a parallel street where there would be a traffic signal.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0853859,-118.3522498,3a,15y,204.15h,87.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMq-o9MI3mvm2NQzkWy9vhg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DMq-o9MI3mvm2NQzkWy9vhg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D276.9315%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu

I definitely dig that sign.

I wish it were used more widely.  There are a lot of side street driving in Central Los Angeles because the arterials are so backed up.  Commonly, side streets that intersect an arterial at a stop sign are forced to turn right.  Obviously some warning of such a block ahead would be useful so that traffic can instead take a parallel street with a traffic signal.

In this particular case, Vista is part of a nearly 5 mile side street shortcut with traffic signals at every major arterial.  The trick is that you do have to turn on a side street to make the one block connection between Vista and Martel (either at Waring or Willoughby).  So starting at Gardner and Hollywood, Gardner intersects Hollywood, Sunset, Fountain, and Santa Monica with traffic signals.  Gardner is pretty wide at Santa Monica and then defaults onto Vista.  But Vista does not have a signal at Melrose, so traffic should move one block to the east to Martel which has signals on Melrose, Beverly, and 3rd.  South of 3rd, Martel continues as Hauser with signals at 6th, Wilshire, 8th, Olympic, San Vicente, Pico, Venice, Washington, Adams, and Jefferson.  It is a widely-used semi-arterial becasue of all the traffic signals and because it is about mid-way between La Brea and Fairfax.

Side street driving is how people really get around the LA traffic jams to travel within your own neighborhood.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on April 03, 2024, 11:14:57 AM
Not sure how common Geese Crossing signs are:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/55CQg5qy3t3Y6U49A

Also here's a unique looking yellow sign in a shopping center:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NxbJCQstDubxNJxg8
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 03, 2024, 11:39:35 AM
On Embassy Dr west of PA 741 by Royal Farms in Lancaster (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220162809660973&set=a.10220162900023232)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53629824404_ec06f50bd6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on April 03, 2024, 12:46:50 PM
Ann all-in-one on US Route 30 in Oregon: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vxk2BW2mme6U7Z2N6
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on April 04, 2024, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: mglass87 on April 03, 2024, 11:14:57 AMNot sure how common Geese Crossing signs are:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/55CQg5qy3t3Y6U49A

Also here's a unique looking yellow sign in a shopping center:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NxbJCQstDubxNJxg8
Here is a Duck Xing sign near where I live:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8349622,-72.561507,3a,16.9y,45.14h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSUgegMmxVcZbZYzML0tWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8349622,-72.561507,3a,16.9y,45.14h,88.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPSUgegMmxVcZbZYzML0tWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: kphoger on April 05, 2024, 04:00:24 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 02, 2024, 02:55:18 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/ebosQi39g5yPrqbE6
Oklahoma calls left lane campers the act of impeding?

Those signs are all over Oklahoma.  Not unique.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 07, 2024, 09:13:31 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/mhGQM8m8an3h3eN99
US Route 56 shields look like this in Kansas City, MO.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Shedingtonian on April 07, 2024, 07:43:09 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 07, 2024, 09:13:31 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/mhGQM8m8an3h3eN99
US Route 56 shields look like this in Kansas City, MO.

That's funny, they remind me of the route shields in the The Crew game...
https://thecrew.fandom.com/wiki/Mother_Road_66?file=TC2MotherRoad66.jpg
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 07, 2024, 10:49:33 PM
Control destination on an ENDS sign in Cleveland:

(https://i.imgur.com/PzW4prW.jpeg)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 08, 2024, 01:17:29 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51377603696
Unusual mile marker at the OR/ WA border on I-5 NB.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: ClassicHasClass on April 08, 2024, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 08, 2024, 01:17:29 PMhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/51377603696
Unusual mile marker at the OR/ WA border on I-5 NB.

I've seen that one, and I don't think it's intended as a mile marker, even though it uses the same colour and shape. I think they just used what they had in inventory.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on April 08, 2024, 11:06:28 PM
It's just an unusual way of marking the state line.

I previously brought up those signs earlier in this thread here:

Quote from: Amaury on January 16, 2024, 12:08:50 PMWhile looking for a photo for my Stock Sign Photos thread, I came across these interesting signs at the Washington/Oregon border on Interstate 5.

Northbound - "WA S / L OR" on both sides of the freeway: https://maps.app.goo.gl/T8TCbMMrg8efxikk7
Southbound - "OR S / L WA" on both sides of the freeway: https://maps.app.goo.gl/tV3p1iHSRioQBAkz9

Not sure what they mean.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 09, 2024, 04:58:46 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eStTTZwLSkBmRckW6
Route 283 to Route 283. Interesting even though both PA 283 and I-283 are separate routes.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/11xMYTEhkXzWqpex5
Old Exit 10 being replaced by Exit 10. 😂
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: 74/171FAN on April 09, 2024, 07:14:27 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 09, 2024, 04:58:46 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/eStTTZwLSkBmRckW6
Route 283 to Route 283. Interesting even though both PA 283 and I-283 are separate routes.

NC 540 says hi (and there may be more of these coming on the southeast side)  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217264947056219&set=a.10217265444388652)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53642546449_0eebccebf5_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53641330037_79c40e05a4_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53642546444_29d7d09aeb_c.jpg)

Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: RobbieL2415 on April 09, 2024, 06:41:30 PM
The panels on ALL FOUR of these APLs are misaligned at their seams. Look at the outline.
Drives me mad driving under them.
I-91 https://maps.app.goo.gl/q4DwHtqovjJ8PRGU9 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/q4DwHtqovjJ8PRGU9)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: mglass87 on April 10, 2024, 09:56:38 AM
Yet another collection of signs from infamous Hopewell, VA:

"Split lay wrap here":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/3VJCJdHH1FiWKvmf9

This thing that was removed years ago:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/THocjJBLhsAPtxxA7

A sign from the industrial area:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Xd612FLuHA7m55So6

Another one of their visitor center sign variations with a bonus funky speed limit sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1JR8pqDqJbnrNRRh7
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: wanderer2575 on April 10, 2024, 10:18:57 AM
Quote from: RobbieL2415 on April 09, 2024, 06:41:30 PMThe panels on ALL FOUR of these APLs are misaligned at their seams. Look at the outline.
Drives me mad driving under them.
I-91 https://maps.app.goo.gl/q4DwHtqovjJ8PRGU9 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/q4DwHtqovjJ8PRGU9)

In another variation of misalignment (manufacturing or installation), the new APLs on eastbound I-96 in Novi each has a gap between the panels.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eweq6fFTkai7ZqvB9

(ETA:  I took photos of a couple of these signs and, as an example of how anal I am, I used MS Paint to eliminate the gaps so I don't grind my teeth when I look at them.)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 10, 2024, 10:22:15 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jjucYXJ8AVRdLfJF8
The I-91 shield has its numbers lined up too close to the bottom like a state name was to be added, but wasn't.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: formulanone on April 10, 2024, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 10, 2024, 10:22:15 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/jjucYXJ8AVRdLfJF8
The I-91 shield has its numbers lined up too close to the bottom like a state name was to be added, but wasn't.

It looks like the Massachusetts Way of signing along freeways which is irritating.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: bzakharin on April 11, 2024, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 10, 2024, 10:22:15 AMhttps://maps.app.goo.gl/jjucYXJ8AVRdLfJF8
The I-91 shield has its numbers lined up too close to the bottom like a state name was to be added, but wasn't.
The sign it replaced had the state name, but the numbers were in the middle (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7394097,-72.6624192,3a,20.5y,206.92h,89.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sw4NILZfDpwPpzeynfmyNLg!2e0!5s20120601T000000!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu)
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: Amaury on April 12, 2024, 05:57:23 PM
The font on this sign at the bottom: https://maps.app.goo.gl/eQpjFmca5x8PxifQ9
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 14, 2024, 03:32:12 PM
The Exit Only for the right lane only?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53647692480
Doesn't seem fitting for the way the lanes part from the mainline or that the ramp splits after departure.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadfro on April 14, 2024, 08:55:20 PM

Quote from: roadman65 on April 14, 2024, 03:32:12 PMThe Exit Only for the right lane only?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53647692480
Doesn't seem fitting for the way the lanes part from the mainline or that the ramp splits after departure.
Seems like it could be a temporary thing? Those lane lines don't exactly look like they are professionally painted for a permanent install...lines are crooked like a 3-year old drew 'em...
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 15, 2024, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: roadfro on April 14, 2024, 08:55:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 14, 2024, 03:32:12 PMThe Exit Only for the right lane only?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53647692480
Doesn't seem fitting for the way the lanes part from the mainline or that the ramp splits after departure.
Seems like it could be a temporary thing? Those lane lines don't exactly look like they are professionally painted for a permanent install...lines are crooked like a 3-year old drew 'em...

Could be, as it looks resurfaced as when I drove it.


https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZYp9yE8dFgCHbnD7A
This is odd. Either I-70 is redundant or KDOT is inconsistent not keeping the same on top as on side.

It looks funny to see the two US routes only on the pole while the interstate is on both.
Title: Re: Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: roadman65 on April 15, 2024, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: roadfro on April 14, 2024, 08:55:20 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 14, 2024, 03:32:12 PMThe Exit Only for the right lane only?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53647692480
Doesn't seem fitting for the way the lanes part from the mainline or that the ramp splits after departure.
Seems like it could be a temporary thing? Those lane lines don't exactly look like they are professionally painted for a permanent install...lines are crooked like a 3-year old drew 'em...

https://www.aaroads.com/ks/070/i-070-w-exit-419-3.jpg
Here is AARoads of the same exit minus temporary striping.  Still is odd description of the right lane exiting.


On to another oddity, a black arrow on yellow warning on an exit guide in New Jersey.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LvBAMd2UVnqjKNuk8


https://maps.app.goo.gl/k1MVhZuBdfLaad848
True Route?  😂😂😂
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