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Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly

Started by mass_citizen, December 04, 2013, 10:46:35 PM

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elsmere241

That would be just the ticket around here, and not just specifically there.  Considering all the signs DelDOT has experimented with that weren't necessarily MUTCD-compliant, I don't know why they don't just adopt something like that.


74/171FAN

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jeffandnicole

Quote from: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: elsmere241 on January 12, 2024, 09:09:00 AM
All I can say is that DelDOT is desperate there.  I used to live about five blocks from that tunnel and every so often a truck hits it.  CSX has even threatened to close it.  What I don't understand is why they didn't put traffic signals in at the same time.  Some people (including my father) think the Yield sign going northbound really means you're supposed to take turns.

Does the US have an equivalent to this sign (Rb-91 in Ontario)? I agree a yield sign should be sufficient, but this one is very clear.


If it's black on white, it's regulatory. 

It would be impossible to show every sign that could be used as there are often unusual conditions that need specialized signage, such as in this case.

Amaury

I like these signs on Interstate 90 eastbound in Montana.

Before milepost 21: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ca57Z4Rv3cJxRQDq7

Just before Exit 22 and milepost 22: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ShXfJokNknyFieG18 A typo was made here, saying "miles" instead of "mile." It also seems kind of incorrect to me? It says the curves are not for another mile, but then almost right away, see below...

Just past Exit 22 and milepost 22: https://maps.app.goo.gl/8HZpSyidC4TDEUwN9

Then this last one before milepost 23, but this one is more normal compared to the other three: https://maps.app.goo.gl/W4ypgp1AX3ydbjbd8
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7/8

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM
If it's black on white, it's regulatory. 

Okay, are you arguing that the sign I posted shouldn't be regulatory (and if yes, how come)? In Ontario it is regulatory as its included in OTM Book 5 (meanwhile warning signs are OTM Book 6).

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM
It would be impossible to show every sign that could be used as there are often unusual conditions that need specialized signage, such as in this case.

This sign is common when one side of a two-lane road is closed for construction (as long as traffic volumes and speeds are low). What signage would the US use in this scenario?

FWIW, most (all?) European countries has an equivalent sign. Here's the one used in Finland (in honour of you-know-who):

kphoger

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 12, 2024, 01:07:11 PM

Quote from: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 09:37:58 AM
Does the US have an equivalent to this sign (Rb-91 in Ontario)? I agree a yield sign should be sufficient, but this one is very clear.



If it's black on white, it's regulatory. 

It would be impossible to show every sign that could be used as there are often unusual conditions that need specialized signage, such as in this case.

The US does have an equivalent to that sign:  R1-2aP mounted below R1-2.



And . . .

Quote from: MUTCD, 11th Edition
Part 2 — Signs

Chapter 2B — Regulatory Signs, Barricades, and Gates

§ 2B.18 — STOP Sign or YIELD Sign Placement

Option:

07 — Where drivers proceeding straight ahead must yield to traffic approaching from the opposite direction, such as at a one-lane bridge, a TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC (R1-2aP) plaque (see Figure 2B-1) may be mounted below the YIELD sign.
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7/8

Quote from: kphoger on January 12, 2024, 02:06:33 PM
The US does have an equivalent to that sign:  R1-2aP mounted below R1-2.

Thanks kphoger, and it looks nearly the same too! :)

kphoger

Quote from: 7/8 on January 12, 2024, 02:16:54 PM

Quote from: kphoger on January 12, 2024, 02:06:33 PM
The US does have an equivalent to that sign:  R1-2aP mounted below R1-2.

Thanks kphoger, and it looks nearly the same too! :)

You're welcome.  It's somewhat common in Missouri, although a few of the ones I've personally seen have had the bridges replaced with two-laners.

Current example:  https://maps.app.goo.gl/w8AttMrGCfxNKVtd6
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freebrickproductions

Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

Wonder if that sign, or at least the order, dates back to when US 431 still went through downtown Anniston?
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roadfro

Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 12, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

Wonder if that sign, or at least the order, dates back to when US 431 still went through downtown Anniston?

I assumed the order reflected that the exit for Anniston comes before the exit for US 431, but Anniston is still further away along an intersecting route. (Although if that were the case, it would be better to use either the intersecting route number or "Anniston Exit" on this sign and provide the distance to the exit instead.)
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roadman65

Quote from: roadfro on January 13, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 12, 2024, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2024, 03:21:26 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53370682949
US 431 should be on top, not in the middle.

Wonder if that sign, or at least the order, dates back to when US 431 still went through downtown Anniston?

I assumed the order reflected that the exit for Anniston comes before the exit for US 431, but Anniston is still further away along an intersecting route. (Although if that were the case, it would be better to use either the intersecting route number or "Anniston Exit" on this sign and provide the distance to the exit instead.)

Some states do that. Like Pennsylvania signs all cities on a freeway to the exit rather than the Downtown. Then some states have been doing city limits as the mileage point as well.  However still I would sign in order regardless of what exit comes first.
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mglass87

"Left turn stay inside white line":
https://maps.app.goo.gl/SxvkVQ5NFvZHdVrM6

The recycling center sign seems temporary but it's been there for years:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rZmVcy4BLPjXWCgz9

Deformed stop sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/bq9K7doqoM4oPkUm9

Odd No Parking sign:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8PBVbLaQCYbu9a268

Sign for a pretty much abandoned road:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/EBzKpb6fqqA99aTT6

Tom958

Crossposted from the Atlanta thread. This is on westbound I-285 where the former two offramps to GA 141 have been replaced with a single combined ramp. The lane to the right is a merge lane, so onramp traffic has to merge, then change lanes again if they're not bound for GA 141. By the logic that prompted the removal of this signage scheme from the MUTCD, some drivers will falsely believe that they must change lanes twice to stay on 285, possibly prompting hasty, ill-considered maneuvers. We'll see, I guess.

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This bit of MUTCD-defiant awesomeness went up over the weekend, replacing these two signs for the former two-offramp condition. The new combined ramp has been open for a few weeks; the original signage could've been shrouded and greened out to provide accurate wayfinding, but it was still unchanged as of Friday.


D-Dey65

I just stumbled upon this sign on a website related to Pennsylvania:
https://palogo.org/sign/us-322-port-royal/
Even though I was looking for images of roads within Ocala National Forest in Florida.


roadman65

 This exit sign in an acceleration lane is very odd given the circumstances. US 69 has a very short concurrency with I-635 in Missouri. If you follow US 69 north, you are directed to exit the moment you enter the I-635 freeway.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/53371252986
US 69 doesn't even enter the main travel lanes of I-635 here. If you're following the said Route you actually remain in the auxiliary lane the entire time you're on the freeway.
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roadman65

https://maps.app.goo.gl/x9UYAPQHRzSodPoE7
A rare county line sign in NJ along NJ Rte. 23.

Another thing to note the sign faces the road and not the driver, as it's more of a location type of sign for a disabled motorist.
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bzakharin

Quote from: roadman65 on January 15, 2024, 01:49:08 AM
https://maps.app.goo.gl/x9UYAPQHRzSodPoE7
A rare county line sign in NJ along NJ Rte. 23.

Another thing to note the sign faces the road and not the driver, as it's more of a location type of sign for a disabled motorist.
Only the Garden State Parkway has real county line signs in NJ. But I know I've seen one like you posted, except older and faded, somewhere else. Maybe Cape May and Atlantic?

vdeane

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hobsini2

Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light before?
Yup. This one has been around over 30 years. Highland Ave approaching Route 56 Butterfield Rd and Butterfield Frontage Rd in Downers Grove IL. Come to think of it, this may be the oldest APL sign in the country.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8338478,-88.0108751,3a,60y,0.95h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZwDBJQ_yeVaKH97R9AZcOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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Rothman

Quote from: hobsini2 on January 15, 2024, 02:57:40 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light before?
Yup. This one has been around over 30 years. Highland Ave approaching Route 56 Butterfield Rd and Butterfield Frontage Rd in Downers Grove IL. Come to think of it, this may be the oldest APL sign in the country.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8338478,-88.0108751,3a,60y,0.95h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZwDBJQ_yeVaKH97R9AZcOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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74/171FAN

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thenetwork

Quote from: wanderer2575 on January 15, 2024, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Anyone ever see an APL approaching a traffic light before?

This one on the wbd I-696 service drive in Warren, MI is partial width.  The traffic signal is just past the bend.

This.  Although technically correct, if I look quickly at the overhead, it seems that you can access 696 in either direction...although the intent of this APL sign is to direct ALL 696 traffic to turn left, no?

Amaury

Quote from: Amaury on January 09, 2024, 07:25:10 PMBoth ways take you to Seattle, but isn't there something in the MUTCD the suggests not signing the same location for two different routes?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QMsgjybPqy7wkeT8A

This is at the US 2 and US 97 interchange on the west side of the Columbia River in Chelan County.

This was like this even before they changed the interchange and added the current ramps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vuBDCEvFfyDGi6cF6

Here's another one with the same location (Selah) for two separate routes (I-82 and WA 823): https://maps.app.goo.gl/5tKVc9q3LsuMZDfm9 I-82 westbound Exit 30A is for Selah, which is literally right there after you get on the freeway at the same place, and just gets you right back onto WA 823 northbound.

Although the signs before these signs are all different.

These overhead signs mention WA 823 for Selah and I-82 for just Ellensburg, but make no mention of US 12 at all: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3nzoKPCBBCw3peRd6

These overhead signs make no mention of WA 823 at all: https://maps.app.goo.gl/RrjUeshMBL9YPNNN8

So, it's a little inconsistent.
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