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Malls that are still destinations

Started by webny99, May 24, 2018, 11:20:47 AM

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KEVIN_224

And near that mall, north on Maine Mall Road, is the Comfort Inn. I stayed at it in June 2017. A Peter Pan bus I was on passed by Bradley International (BDL) on that day (September 11th). It was the last bus of the day between Springfield, MA and Hartford (late afternoon/early evening).  :no:

Getting back to malls...I want to say that Buckland Hills Mall of Manchester opened in the early 1990s? Westfield Shoppingtown of Meriden is some time in the 1970s. I-691 passes immediately south of it.


jon daly

Yes, Buckland is that age. I forget what year it opened, but it was the early 1990s.

jon daly

Malls are one thing that I liked as a kid that I no longer like. The one I really liked even though it was quite a ride from Ellington, Conn. was the Holyoke Mall at Ingleside. It was like a Mecca of retail to a young teen like me.

All Manchester had back then was the Parkade. I heard it was great if you were into cruising with a Chevelle, but I didn't have one. I still don't, but I'd like to get a muscle car if I get enough money to also keep my wife happy ;).

KEVIN_224

Holyoke Mall At Ingleside...Exit 15 from I-91, 12 to 13 miles north of the Connecticut border. My brother and I have been to a Red Robin in a small strip mall set up near them a few times. :)

Rothman

Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 27, 2018, 08:53:42 PM
Holyoke Mall At Ingleside...Exit 15 from I-91, 12 to 13 miles north of the Connecticut border. My brother and I have been to a Red Robin in a small strip mall set up near them a few times. :)
Meh.  It used to be the "big mall" when I was a kid, but with the building up of businesses in Hadley and Northampton over the past 20 years, the number of customers from points north has had to have dropped off.  Not sure how far people are travelling to get there now, but it isn't the attraction it once was.
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roadfro

Quote from: abefroman329 on May 25, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on May 25, 2018, 04:58:41 PM
The Fashion Show Mall on the Las Vegas Strip seems to be doing well as far as I know.  But the mall isn't so much a destination in itself as the LV Strip is.

There are also malls inside some of the larger hotel-casinos, such as Caesar's Palace.  I think they expanded that at least 10 years ago.

The Fashion Show Mall was limping along for the longest time.

The Fashion Show used to be the ONLY mall on the Las Vegas Strip. It had all the high-end stores and was THE place for Vegas locals to do their upscale shopping.

The prominence of Fashion Show began to wane in the early 1990's though. Caesars Palace opened The Forum Shops in 1992, which was the first of the Strip properties to have its own destination shopping mall with mostly high-end stores. There are now several such malls, and virtually every Strip property now has shops and boutique stores within (even if such stores are not arranged in a layout as expansive as a mall).

The destination malls on the Las Vegas Strip now include:
*Fashion Show Mall, 1981
*The Forum Shops (at Caesars Palace), 1992 (expanded circa 1997 & 2004)
*Grand Canal Shoppes (at The Venetian), 1999
*Miracle Mile Shops (at Planet Hollywood Las Vegas), 2000. (Formerly Desert Passage in the Aladdin)
*The Shops at Crystals (in CityCenter), 2009

Also of note as destination shopping for tourists and locals are a couple of outlet malls:
*Las Vegas Premium Outlets South (formerly Belz Factory Outlets), configured more like a traditional mall with a couple anchors
*Las Vegas Premium Outlets North, which is an open-air mall and without a traditional anchor


Besides Fashion Show, the Vegas area only has three other traditional malls:
*The Boulevard, 1968
*The Meadows, 1978
*Galleria at Sunset, 1996
(Of these, only The Boulevard has had significant struggles with occupancy. Sears is the only traditional anchor left, but they've filled in with other varied uses.)

The Vegas area also has some of the lifestyle center-style malls. Most of these more cater to locals, as they are more suburban:
*The District at Green Valley Ranch
*Town Square (on southern Las Vegas Blvd)
*Tivoli Village
*Downtown Summerlin
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

dvferyance

Quote from: thenetwork on May 26, 2018, 08:44:37 AM
Cleveland:  Great Northern and South Park malls are still alive and kicking.
Akron:  Summit Mall is also doing extremely well.  Fairlawn PD has always kept the riff-raff out of the mall.
What about Beachwood? Isn't that one doing well? It appears Great Lakes is doing ok they are planned to get a new entertainment complex where one of the Dillard's stores were one of them closed. I think it's safe to say Richmond Town Square is dead and it's closure is inevitable as they have no anchor stores left. As far as Milwaukee goes Brookfield Square and Mayfair are still doing well although we shall see the affects of losing Boston Store especially with Brookfield Square that also recently lost Sears. The Bon Ton closure I think was most detrimental to Milwaukee than anyone else.

dvferyance

Quote from: Super Mateo on May 25, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 24, 2018, 11:53:24 AM
Many of the remaining Chicagoland malls tend to be destinations.  Most of the ones that weren't are dead now and have mostly been redeveloped.  Among the malls that have had recent expansions and have planned expansions (ignoring the demise of Carson Pirie Scott):

Orland Square

Orland Square will be dead by 2025.  It's not going to survive at the rate it's going.

-Years ago, it needed trolleys to bring the overflow of people in on Black Friday.  Last year, there was parking available in the morning on Black Friday.
-The nearby Toys R Us has closed, so whatever traffic it brought to Orland Square is gone.
-The anchors are all struggling.  Carson Pirie Scott is dead.  Sears bailed and will be replaced by a theater.  JCPenney is on life support.  Macy's is still there, but some older shoppers were bitter they bought out Marshall Field.
-They've got competition from Orland Park Place, which is a plaza on the other side of 151st Street.  This was once a mall, and it died many years ago.  It was revived with a new format and less traditional mall stores.
-US 45/LaGrange Road is starting to fill up with tons of new places.  The mall won't be necessary anymore.

Any "expansions" they're doing are just efforts to save it.  They won't work.
But the fact they can replace Sears with something instead of just having it sit there empty is a good sign. With the changing times I think having some kind of entertainment in malls will be key to their survival. I would think the booming La Grange Rd would help the mall not hurt it. Many malls have failed like Jamestown mall in the St Louis area becasue there was nothing else around it.

kkt

Northgate Mall in Seattle is doing okay... but the owners are planning an expansion putting upper floors in, and they're going to be office space and condos, not more retail.

oscar

Don't forget the West Edmonton Mall, Canadian precursor to the Mall of America. First time I was there in 1994, it was dying, with duplicate department stores in different parts of the mall (from chain mergers where the new companies couldn't find someone else to take the excess stores off their hands), and car dealerships with satellite showrooms in the mall. All that went away by my more recent visits the past few years.

You can buy WEM postcards there (with some digging), which I mailed to some of my more shopaholic relatives.
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thenetwork

Quote from: dvferyance on May 29, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 26, 2018, 08:44:37 AM
Cleveland:  Great Northern and South Park malls are still alive and kicking.
Akron:  Summit Mall is also doing extremely well.  Fairlawn PD has always kept the riff-raff out of the mall.
What about Beachwood? Isn't that one doing well? It appears Great Lakes is doing ok they are planned to get a new entertainment complex where one of the Dillard's stores were one of them closed. I think it's safe to say Richmond Town Square is dead and it's closure is inevitable as they have no anchor stores left. As far as Milwaukee goes Brookfield Square and Mayfair are still doing well although we shall see the affects of losing Boston Store especially with Brookfield Square that also recently lost Sears. The Bon Ton closure I think was most detrimental to Milwaukee than anyone else.

Beachwood Place is a higher-end mall, and not your blue collar mall with nary a lower-end ( Sears, JCP, Kohls, or Target) department store as an anchor.  They have had a couple of riots break out over the last couple of years there.

Great Lakes Mall may be doing OK, but their set up with the former Mentor Mall-turned shopping strip across the street makes it look more empty than what it might be.  I did poke into GLM a couple of years ago on a Friday night, and it wasn't that busy. 

Unlike Great Northern and SouthPark, Great Lakes is not conveniently accessible to a freeway -- one has to take at least a couple of local streets for a few miles to reach it.  Despite the lack of direct interstate connection,  it really is the strongest and only "stereotypical" (not high-end) mall on the East Side of Cleveland.  And once Richmond Town Center closes up shop, it will only be Great Lakes and, if you can afford it, Beachwood Place as your two indoor malls. 

jon daly


SkyPesos

Bumping this thread as it got linked to another one.

In Columbus, both Easton and Polaris were very busy last I went there (both sometime in 2021). Easton is an outdoor mall (or "lifestyle center), and from what I heard, those have more appeal than traditional indoor malls. And bonus points for the Lego Discovery Center there, drawing additional non-shopping traffic in. Lots of upscale stores with better dining options than the average mall food court at both malls.

bing101

#63
The malls I been to in the Philippines are destinations.
Here is a shot from Tour from home TV where he just filmed a mall that has a grand opening in the Cavite area. Yes for us Americans this looks like a time warp from the 1990's but the video was filmed in this decade the 2020's.




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